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Fasola Says 22 Highways To Be Completed In 2020, 2021

Newscast - Africa

01:00 min | 9 months ago

Fasola Says 22 Highways To Be Completed In 2020, 2021

"You're listening to the news on Africa Business Radio the minister of walks in Halston about today flash on Thursday, said the Federal Government will complete twenty two major roles in twenty, twenty and twenty twenty one. Fash allows stay to the non Jerus-, currently constructing a bridge to link the country with Cameroon. The minister who spoke in a live television program in the noted that non-jury lost one year of construction due to the reduction of the national budget in twenty seventeen, he said the plan to complete twenty two major roads between the twenty twenty and twenty, one lost about three good dry season months. Do you recall in nineteen? The minister said. Who could not state all the roads off hand, but noted that a major routes virtually all political zones would be completed. And that was the news at this time in Africa Business Radio you can't continue to this in life. Online at www does advocate business radio DOT COM or A mobile APP. Thank you for listening.

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Diego Maradona and Halston

Monocle 24: Culture with Robert Bound

29:01 min | 1 year ago

Diego Maradona and Halston

"Hello and welcome to the multiple coaches show with me bounds. We've been quiet on the documentary front recently. But that is about to change as we hit June the month. And some of the best doc oh, releases of the year so much to cover. It'll take more than one episode, but the two that we've picked to discuss today, a halston and Diego. Maradona Colston is the latest by Frederick Chang, who made deal Ren'ai. It's the story of the titular American fashion giant, the nineteen seventies and his subsequent downfall, a decade later, and yeah. Ghimire Donna gives us an exclusive limps of unseen, footage of the famous. Argentine, footballer arguably the best of all time, which has been crafted into documentary by Asif Kapadia, the maestro behind Senna and Amy. And joining me on the program to kick at dock discussion into action, awesome, critics, Jason Sullivan and Anna Smith. Jason. Welcome to the program. Nice to be thanks has to see fresh from can burn have fresh, but recently looking. Quite loving here. Yeah. This is how I feel like I'm still in Callum in denial this little dog chats kickoff documentary matches documentary matters. And yes so much on the palm dog award switches, they would the best canine performance this year. Brandy from once upon a time in Hollywood one and two us apprised that right to hunting Tarantini turned up to collect the award himself. Yeah. So spring breaks out among very. Little excitement, Reservoir Dogs was in competition that year with that count. Yeah. They'll suit accent. Okay. But today, we're talking football fashion, and we're going to begin with halston ano- kickoff with you. Why is he's a kind of forgotten figure in terms of the sort of deals in the quals and calls of this world who will see in was he could documentary think that's one of the things that makes this documentary because he isn't a household name anymore, but he clearly was very well known in the seventies as designer to the stars. They have LIZA Minelli talking about how his clothes don's with you in this, don't you mentally. So he was clearly loved adored, several things make him a good subject. I think not just the fact that he was a popular successful rushing designer. But the fact that he allegedly party hard and hung out with all the celebrities of the day, and he innovated he had a real sense for PR. He basically invented the hot pants. So there was a lot of press around in interests around him and things didn't necessarily go so well, which, again, of course, is a fascinating story. It is an economic story. Action. Let's play a bit of the trailer. To get our listeners heads around this his clothes Pitney. This is it. This is the fashion that I would want to wear. No sippers just get in over your head. And overnight success. It was a clean. Look, the simplicity was really needed after the sixties, and it was all American from an all American. Well, when you have Niko sound, tracking the trailer United, something might go wrong. Some point Jason, how'd you how'd you making good fashion film? Well, fetching chain really works on, on camera. A lot of sometimes you got lot of defeat. He got called fashion parades. You've got the big show. So you always end up with the big centerpiece at builds to some kind of dance move, and Holsten, had some fantastic Oreo graffiti involved in vase, imple-, colorful lines that the close flow is the said, LIZA Minnelli's that they danced with you. And there's a lot of Liza Minnelli coming out and doing halston thing. Some great lies, which is a waste good for Joel Schumacher in there, because he was a, a costume designer who is director, and he hung out with him in fire island. So there's this big gay thing going on New York. And these countless documentaries mythology is in the New York night of the nineteen seventies all around studio fifty four and course halston is their Husson Gucci fear rucci as the sister sledge song. And he was there, right? The center, the disco scene. So he was there kind of Minson about doing coke shouting at people, so the great character, and if he wasn't played by hosted himself in archive footage in the documentary had to get someone like you care to come in and play him because there's a slight sinister elementary because he's was a Bolden villainy hide yourself away, these mirrored lairs the top of New York, and has these women come in sort of kind of swirl around him and takes them to China in trucks hind. He's kind of a shadowy figure as a whole is just a name is real name. And he changed his name. He's a he's a sort of Gatsby Machiavelli figure who find his way among the Wisey going, where did he depit? That's why I wanted to see if he was so big and so high. How where did he go? Yeah. That's one of the things that was one of the Casaus balls. And the soft underbelly of this film. I kinda wanted bit more fashion in it, when it's a no kind of technically. Why he was he revered because LIZA kind of eulogizing us wonderful. Thing. But I kind of wanted not in another way. But to no more of that technique. I guess, though, Anna that kind of tough to do on film to keep people engaged. Maybe some documents that quite well recently like Vivienne. Westwood one. Did that really well nothing from that? You really got a sense of what you're talking about is in exactly the talent she was born with the innate understanding fashion in how it works. And how to dress people and also had to succeed in that kind of businessman this coming between created very well, exactly. And it's going to skimmed past that and seem to focus on, as you said the personality cult of his personality. And I felt that is very true. What Jason saying that he was ending Matic figure, but he just remain slightly Matic throughout because inevitably there, isn't that much insight into his actual real personality. There's low of archive ads, which are sort of eighties and camp. Not there's a lot of good stuff screaming into they're gonna guffaws. Yeah. It's quite funny. There is a bit about how he comes from the bias, so it made made the flow of it, and there was a real reaction to the very simple lines. I if actually aimed really high, I mean, the film bills itself. Versus big business. Clash Diddy, then sell himself out to the corporate America because he think he aligning. JC Penney's, really and everyone's like you can't have fashioning JC Penney's, and he came out with his very strong on the bench and how good at PR he was I want to dress America where a massive ambition and a really laudable one, I think if you've done a little bit of a good share, and then you're doing a little bit of diffusion, then off your one roll it out. So, and it seemed to be working. I don't really know what went wrong. It did anything wrong. He kind of with Neiman Marcus. We was some other big. He was third or third off. That's so you can't be in there. And then he was, we cut himself in Hassi cut off his nose despite his face. I think the implications documentary, which may come up later is that a drug problem may have been one of the issues go full out with it didn't kind of every was he was shouting at people, and your future successful you're going to shelter, but I think it was an implication, that, that, that his addiction to cocaine or whatever it was is was part of the problem with the way that he. Dealt with people in the way he withdrew. And the way he made that decision, which were not necessarily the sound decisions when he was in his right mind. I think I got that from that. But we did a bit of coke. Then someone says, what we didn't think that was quite funny because it was very clear. Talion design. Elsa peretti? It was pretty much. Well, we didn't go to sleep in nine hundred eighty three she was fabulous amazing. The most extreme cards is one guy that went oh. Well, you know, when, when I took seriously, I stopped intravenous drug use. Didn't like it on the plane wouldn't have it. You do what watching think. Well did was there? A massive is going to be a huge liquor as you say the top of this tower and he come down. And that's I'll make it all went wrong. When we went two hundred eight this looks that dismissal, I've been watching, I was watching pose the TV at the same time it'd be watching, and they're both mythologies of the New York night, I'm Berlin dismissive, and they can't put downs and that was the best thing in here. I didn't think that it did a great job of cultural, reassessing, his clothes, and putting them up there with deal won't. She will the other ones we've seen even the last emperor about Valentino didn't feel halston quite had that masala deal that I'm going to want to. I mean that's doing host and someone still doing the labor, don't they? Let's out and gets vintage Allston. There must be loads of it in sort of notching, JC, Penney's, basements, Boston. So I don't know. But I didn't feel all that pieces amazing question myself because I love clothes, and I'm very interested in era. But there was nothing that I saw visually made me want his clothes, which is very strange actually, maybe some my style suits people about six foot. I mean that's quite law, fashions. Look good on daytime TV on Donahue rather than on. It was mostly spatial. It was more as you say about about the bitchy put down to earth is also rehabilitation for a lot of people who loved your night Frederick Chang's, I film, they'll of come to this and, you know, I kinda wanna get in on this. So there is a strange thing because watching the studio fifty four documentary, there's so much halston in it. And hang out with Warhol and all the rest of it. And yet, being coked up sheltie kind of guy who does bond villain, all the architect that lives at the top of the tower block in high rise is kind of weird Spacey kinda do kind of the'real, you kind of this film tells you who he is maybe without tending you want. He was good. I supposedly who knows. The thing you want in fashion. That is the message because he came from the midwest, and he was called ROY hell Ston. Yes. Yeah. Milliner at Bergdorf great documentary about bergdorfs actually, isn't there? A good good. So there's a lot of these stories coming out of New York. And he's definitely parked. I'm not sure he was the most interesting in the end he definitely made a Mark on seventies eighties fashion. But yeah, I, I wasn't sure about what the full was in, in this documentary just as Phil. Do you need that sorta check -tory in, you know, I mean would go on to talk about Maradona in a minute people? It's a similar sort of story. Really? It's kind of running out of control with your success. Do you need that story documentary, whether rags-to-riches riches, Rex I think you need. I think it's all done documentary. How will they treat it? I think this one I felt that it was pops. More of a gift than was exploited the classic full situations into little bit hurried kind fall. And they didn't have time to explore it fully and didn't really go into enough. So it left me feeling little bit bits pointed despite the earlier highs. Oh, okay. But let down and I really enjoyed Antonio Lopez documentary and other ones in that sort of an area. And that's what space a lot more. More because I think they got the structure better. Would it be spoiling to say the day why he died? Is that a spoiler even that didn't really come up? I mean they didn't do too much on the aids say didn't happen. What so many of these committees? I didn't know how it was going to die. But from the minute open, you kind of knew. It's so sad. I mean, I think what's been interesting to me about what you can these committees is they all give an insight into the terrible as of McCain. How tragically affected that community in New York at that time, into finally on hosting in terms, the texture of we said, this great talking heads from Lowe's. Manelli and there's a lot of party footage and all the ads, the catwalk shows Jason was saying, there's also kind of like the funny thing, how do we sort of expose these facts? How do we do X position of having basil? Exposition popout of radio. And that's the reconstruction is quite sparingly with a goal, that's going through the archives. What we think of the kind of texture of the movie of the documentary, I think, as well enough. Done to George -hension to that, which I think, is the key, you need to be doing this. Wondering when you're watching you. So yeah, I mean it's because it's quite fast cart. It's in the spirit of the movie and spur of his life. The fact that is moving at quite Ajayi pace with disco music. And it doesn't pull too low on the resources to make it feel awkward or two sets up. So I know you mentioned it was forgotten about this will go just remember the ads, and the and the room finding she needs to do some more research. Hire a better researcher and put her on because I think DVD missed what happened in the story and it's a bit like, yeah, yeah, yeah, hold on. I just spend after spent an hour for building this guy, and that she, how does that work when you when you in terms of documentaries, there is such an unwillingness touchy kinda go, and then I went to so and so the kind of pre presents camera obviously, that's TV trope, but things are other dramatize we've tried to. Say there's no one wants to go back to talking heads. But something because I don't commend you, you always gonna put you'll foisting some narrative arc on and truths what you've got to do is create out there was making out for you. So you've got sift history. And so to say this, this, this, and this, and then you go to put your own reading on it, where it might not be there. Sometimes, I think documentaries force a little leading and fulsome characters in there with their because eggs, X or critics like are sort of the year. We need a bit momentum. This one, I think, sort of ran out of it and material that is hosted by Frederick Chang. We're gonna move onto g-go Maradonna, who doesn't need an introduction, because a radio show we're going to give him on anyway. Tinian nine hundred sixty came on the most famous football's on the planet boss, loan and Napoli. And of course his home country. Foamy scored thirty four goals in ninety one appearances Jason. How does Asif Caputo story of one of these of this let he doesn't and Asif party away? Heated center. I. South American sporting hero, tree style. He gets. He doesn't way with talking heads. Doesn't have people coming on. And then I met the this their voices does into people thoroughly thoroughly interviews. We injuries one hundred and fifty more people and it can possibly found camera to get the idea and to find the story with set of Amy. You had the story because it was a beginning middle and the tragic end to their lives with Madonna, Madonna. It's not quite still with us Maradona that we still hope de moten up at the premiere at can it didn't which made it much easier night for that would have been a all said he had right? What he's done is really concentrate on the era that he was in Naples in Napoli, which is the crowning feet, and it's about what I think the fields about, and I, I think I differ between as party and several other people, I think it's about the ability of one man's charisma to imprint on a community and the town. They married on our intrinsic, dealing are the same beating suppose town, Nava team, considering the biggest one of the big go. Owes exactly no one else would have display spent a fortune, which they didn't have, but a lot of it was Matthew money to get this guy there. And he'd single pun intended, brought them out of the rubble and gave them glory that they've never before, or since touched, and it was a savior story, and the places Sanjay is full of Saint neighbors, got married, Naples, had the four June stroke misfortune to go, there, quite a lot and trying to organize something area aids shambles office, but is glorious ruinous shambles and is Maradona is, as well unless film, put the two of them together, and I think it's, it's a glorious ruinous. Scrubby grubby fantastic Neapolitan film, many ways, and that's because so much footage is our five day. Himself. Yeah. Had he he, he had to come around flooring him around in older. As a certain point because he became very paranoid about what people are trying to do to him. So a little bit later. Later that as well. So. Makes hosting like in a dilatot and the who say the milky ball. Condones and he did lots of discussing, obviously slept with people, and he got really with the Camara, who we know from film camera, whether the main drivers of the industry there as a clash between that illegal side of Naples and football and being revered by the started anyone game the eighty six game against England Maradona does both of those things. He's a rebel, and he doesn't Hamble, and then he schools the most sublime goal in the history of well football and that's him in cafes one match. And it is this kind of staccato me of Maradonna of his personality. What he means to people that is Jason. You even disappear the director that you think is about one man's power over a coach smart move. I Capelli sets it up as a film about Diego, who is the sweet boy who supported his family came from a poor part of his and the Maradonna character, which is sort of villain, who handles goal in does the rest of it, that seems like an easiest sell. Do you buy that one, which one? Do you. Well to me it's about fame. Am no incident football. I mean, all I knew about him for this made it my goal if you'd like ironically, to sort of shut out football point. To only know that he was a controversial football, and that was about it. So I learned a lot. I was interested because still thing has at wonderful ability to joy into a world and tell you about it. Even if you know very little about it. So that was interesting. But what I took away from it. I was most intrigued by was how that level of adoration fame affected him. So of course he's very links. And as you say, the contrast between the noise mummy's, boy, and the, the man who is revived and treated like a gold and then can't handle it and ends up with the drug problem. And I was intrigued, by the way, it was revealed that he treated women and his girlfriend. I thought that was particularly interesting and getting to grips with the, the kind of control controls in his life in his absolute belligerents, really. And his he was such an ostrich because there was the story that he'd fathered a child, and he just kept denying it as if somehow it wasn't going to come out the truth. At some point. And I think the one of the women involved said, well, he's quite immature and I think that was pushing it quite mildly this really, really emotionally immature, man. And I think that was such an interesting insight into someone. And how actually the level he achieved probably kept immature child in safe, or even worse, funny, one as a non as non-football fan was deplorable fascinating or Moccoli glorious as Jason saying it university and have it for a couple of hours. I think I preferred the film Amy because I'm more incident music, and that world than football. So I don't think there is much for a non football fan because clearly, I don't have as understanding investment in that world someone that's interested. But I did learn a lot Anna's as a very human story. I think why really love about us if that he constantly kind of predicts what question you're gonna ask in your head next. So you have the sensation that he's following your interest. He might be leading your interest, but he's following your. Interest. So soon as a question pops into your head like, oh, I wonder what about what is mother? What about what about? Then they come up and he's really well timed and really well done. I feel I feel ashamed. I feel really glad Anna's doing this with me because she has concentrated on the spoon. We may know the mistreated women very much they do sort of pile up. My love my love for the iconography of this gloated hero, figure villain figure I was hoping it was going to be lots of football in it because he's really good at football. It's. Call. So. But then there's the fact that yeah he was. He was businesswoman, visible womanizer, all very good womanizer. It depends on your. He was what I mean. He was brilliant at charming people. He can have him when he was a great dance dance to night. And the he wasn't good dancer. He was charming and people queued up touch the hem of his garment. If you go to Naples, they have some really of bits of hair hem of gone. There is a Jesus oil savior figure going on there. So I think it's really interesting to the human flaws way you could actually imprint yourself with with your children. I think eight now something like this he could impact on the football pitch. And that's where he read he could imprint his legacy and his personality less so in life. And I think that's really fascinating. Because it is in those human relationships that it flowed. That's where the cocaine came from. You can probably numb that away with cocaine. Yeah. That was really revealing. Nothing which is thinking about the age. We're in now's at a pace me metoo whether it's a camera crew interviewing a bunch of young girls, and they look like they're very. Much underage which play, would you like to sleep with their okay, Donna? What kind of moral come? I mean as this is in tree saw massive capacity. This is done as, as, as saying a little people. It's all done with all the rest of it. There is no kind of the reason exposition onion. I haven't worked out if it's new Diego voice over all data voice. There was a voice, the voice of God. If you like saying, I did that sort of whisper very, terse, and I think it might be a new interview with the new Dego that Asif is because that up at the end he's actually on cameras and you kind of. That's from Mattel show. Right. Two thousand nine right? There is a voice of it. I think it might be new about. Yes. When I first touch cocaine, I felt like gold, forbidden than the and they're all is this voice over that took me a while to whose voice it was, it was Mering, and I think is the go now looking at footage of that. There's no, there's no massive meets Diego. No shaking hands. That's not made. Explicit guy was wondering, I wasn't quite sure. And I thought it might be a pre existing interview. So I mean, a lot of questions still unanswered, for in a an elegant way, in a way that I think is still intriguing point is on a dozen Warsaw to documentaries, like do watching the Sky Sports center, the Premier League years, docs and there are millions and millions of this is such a league above in other maintenance line different place. Spurs, they are just way way above the at little dig to get that one in. But it is a documentary that's about beauty and human. It's not it isn't just the football story that there's something much bigger at stake. I particularly liked just the footage. I love that when TV's had Chubias and the cameras were, there was a kind of warmth about it. Of course, a lot of this. The footage is from the World Cup in Mexico and in Italy. And then, of course in Naples. It self what's the Spike Lee movie about the Halsey stay right? Do the right thing, something do the right thing about it. You feel like the Thomas cutting up its edges, and there's something kind of there's a pressure cooker element just to some of the footage in the close up the grainy quality, the pixelated grainy quality, the, the old TV footage, which is particularly kind of satisfy into an adds to the sense. There's going to be some downfull. They'll has to be a thunderstorm. Looks like news, there's always going to be a story or the end of it. You expect ticket numbers to come up hundred people who were injured in a stampede. All looks like there's just been a story around the whole thing exist without a story around him, whereas hosted, I think, is just in this, I retire almost untouchable. We don't get near you do feel you can get an Eddie ak-. You feel you might be able to be in that scrum and get hold of his belt or something. Yeah. I think does that really well as the e c a lot of scenes where people are crowding around say desperate to touch him, and he's in the center of everything and almost looking a little bit overwhelmed. And I think, yeah, the voice sticky that sense of him, just being just overwhelmed by ration- those personal over both of these men subject of both these documentaries that down for sort of happens later. It's not like they have one flush of success, and then go mad it happens kind of, in the dosage of fashion designer should be able to do their job. Footballer professional Larkham, probably only loss into these days. Maybe. Forty maybe you're goalie of jonsman, but it's a strange thing. They kind of go off the rails, kind of when you feel that creativity or the professional ability, waning says about the documentaries earlier, we the filmmaker has to decide whether they've gone off the rails to make a moral judgment. They have a full day goes still going and still creating headlines and still doing mad stuff. I mean he could've turned up to cannon that would've been another chapter was at the World Cup the before need. He threw himself off the top of the, the STAN, when Argentine a- were playing insulting people, there's more and more and more that somebody s if documentary has to say, stop as soda yet my stories finished now. And then, then, then life can take the rest of it to both of these films have sort of moral compass feels the footage, these people's lives themselves, the footage, such cetera just a story all self does that without having to lean on things. We talk about women and Maradonna in this one that could have had a bright light shined on it in some ways, do we. Acquire bit of moral maneuvering anima, wonder I'm not sure it's moral maneuvering oversee documentary, filmmaker make certain decisions very aware of how the audience are going to judge the character. And I think the Mariana film certainly doesn't shy away from pointing the finger at some of his misdemeanors. I think it Holson was perhaps a little more of a step back. I would say more sympathetic in a way to be. I had a sense that they felt a little sorry for him. Whereas 'Maradona one, I think is Wilson. Oh, yeah. If you know he he's the very emotional stories, all three of these trilogies, and he was remains very dispassionate. I think even when you're telling the story like Amy, which is crushing and tragic, and you want to stop the action on the screen, you want to, please, everyone. He remains dispassionate as a film. And I think that's what was his. He's revolutionized the dog drawn. And I think he has been he's being quite as historically cold about a disease, possibly can be even when telling these hugely emotive subjects and putting a moat. He makes emotional choices. He gets Pinto to the music, and they're brilliant. And this Maradonna film. I have to say it has the best opening sequence of documenting I've ever seen this car footage of driving through Naples with this kind of eerie, John carpenter's. It's actually taught Turgeon. It's such a new music, but it's got an eighties electric, and you feel like you're in a in a drugs movie from the eighties. No. Right. In there, ready to kind of snake? Through these labyrinth in crumbling passageways. We do that of others mind or his physique, yours body is all the town where he lives. So just have to get that in yet as cranks up the excitement. Cranks up the tension with music and filmmakers tricks, but he himself remains was got like in his impartiality and let you side the morals, but he's still making decision this leading you innocent are actually has because that's his job. He doesn't very well and just finding them. What is it to make a film about living person in one about a dead one because the content and tone of the Maradonna documentaries? But the fact he's alive is not uncritically. It doesn't seem to make much difference at Jason obviously in terms of organization, but also in terms of the vibe in the room, he could have turned up to the premiering can was the different Soutin. Set ending as we. Along with us. And with this one here he may decision to end it at a certain point. But you don't you have to make that decision filmmaker rather than the world's decision for you. But also, I think I mean, not necessarily intake Mirjana, but I have seen documentaries of living people, which oversee wages Vantic, and it's not the case here, too polite, and too worried about legal issues. New bachelor Westwood One recently, which actually Westwood. They like she decides. So when you do make one about living, they cannot Sebaq. It's one of the problems we've got with an especially west with he expected back. You know, I can't remember the name who made the documentary talking. Yeah. Exactly. And I mean she was several vivid films. She was well, I would be disappointed Vivian did like my feels kind of the point you can get. Exactly prop stir anyone who does take on the living that brings us to the end of today's show, Diego Maradona is that in cinemas on June fourteenth Holson is out on the seventh. Thank you very much. I guess today, Anna Smith and Jason this episode of the Manco coach show, was produced by Holly fishes studio produced by Augustine match. Laurie edited by Alex put Felix and I've been around joins again at the same time next week of time being, thanks for tuning in.

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Episode 88  Trivia, But Make It FASHION

Miss Information: A Trivia Podcast

1:07:37 hr | 2 years ago

Episode 88 Trivia, But Make It FASHION

"Oh, and welcome to misinformation attributed cast for ladies and gents who love coup trivia and sticking it to annoying teams at pub quiz. We're your hosts I'm Lauren, and I'm Julia jewel. Hi, laura. Hey, I have been enjoying this. This new rash of warm weather on my amount. Yes. Somehow on my way over here. I I saw a man like dancing down the street, literally. And while I was at the stop light. I realized he was not actually listen to music. He was just insane. He was overcome by the spirit of the vernal equinox. Exactly. And actually like like the cartoon dance down the street, and then he stopped and then he had his arms out like come at me, bro. And was like talking to himself. So that's my name. Great omen. So I think that means we're going to have a very hot summer. That's what I have read somewhere. Yeah. There were no shadows involved. No shadows. Just mildly threatening behavior on normal city street in another normal on a Friday. So we've taken a lot of ideas into consideration for topics. Yes. And you actually suggested this to me I remember I sat down at trivia once and you looked at me, and you said, I'm gonna need you to do more fashion designer. Yes. So I tipped my hat Hatton. I said your wish is my command. So. Today's episode is called trivia, but make it fashion, seventies fashion designers. So to begin with. I'm gonna talk about what's known as the American look. Okay. So it the American look is what was defined by. What's known as sportswear in the early. Twentieth century. So sportswear is an American fashion term originally used to describe separates. So like atop Panish K or a top and skirt. But since the nineteen thirties has come to be applied today and evening. Fashions of varying degrees of formality that demonstrate a specific relaxed approach to their design while remaining appropriate for a wide range of social occasions. So basically like anything that isn't formal dress is sportswear which confusing. It is. But it's it head like a I don't know like a relaxed quality that was inherently American, and this is different from what's known as active wear, which is very hot. Right. So like leggings workout wear. Yeah. That's very hot very hot for spring training. Like a tennis sweater. Yeah. Tennis skirt as yeah. Yeah. That was the original like implication of it. But then it kind of moved into like, it's Danny stay where it is a very broad term. I will tell you so sports where became the defining look for American fashion by mid century. And Mark the turning point from American designers copying French fashions to Americans becoming influential in their own, right? So the French fashions were very like stodgy and very like well tailored, very expensive and one of expensive fabrics and American sportswear kind of took advantage of cheaper fabrics like cotton and linen and made them really stylish by looking like, they weren't trying to heart. You know, what I mean very coach like early. Coco Chanel was like sportswear like just simple and pretty like this. I just threw this on this. Yeah. Exactly. So we're gonna start firstly with done Emilio Pucci markes about sent though. Here. Come don't worry. There's plenty of French in here to embarrass myself in later. So no worries he was born November twentieth. Nineteen fourteen in Naples to one of Florence's oldest noble families, and he would live and work in Pucci palace in Florence for much of his life, g Palo cheap pale on down to the Pucci pal. Peaches all sizes all sizes pooches. He was a keen sportsman who swam skied fenced, play tennis and raced cars, so very Italian. So it Dallas. So what's Hallion at the age of seventeen traveled to Lake Placid? New York is part of the Italian team at the nineteen thirty two Winter Olympics, but he did not compete. After two years at the university of Milan, he studied agriculture at the university of Georgia Athens, Georgia where he became a member of the domestic literary society. I don't know what that is. But it sounds like a lot of smart people getting together and talking about some loan. Yes. A real Elgon Quin roundtable. It's a little throwback for you throwback. So if you didn't hear last week's it was very good in nineteen thirty five who's given a full scholarship to Reed college in Oregon in return for developing a college ski team skiing was like his thing. He earned an MA in social science from reading nineteen thirty seven and was awarded his doctorate and political science from the university of Florence the same year. So he is very rich. He is very like, he's very politically active. He's traveling all over the world and life is good for Emilio Pucci Marquez e the better sent though palace the Pucci palace. Yeah. And you know, he'd go to the Pucci palace in the summers. Enjoy his you must summer the Pucci pal. Exactly. It'd been Joyce Pucci gardens and. His Pucci garage full of Pucci cars. Funny where in nineteen thirty eight he joined the Italian air force and served as a torpedo bomber pilot during World War Two rising to the rank of captain and decorated for valor. By the time, he left to pursue his fashion career that was for the wrong side. Yes. It was. During the war. He became a confidante of Benito. Mussolini's eldest daughter Edda and Pucci played a key role in the plan to save her husband, Mussolini's, former foreign minister count Galeazzo Ciano who is on trial for his part in the removal of Mussalini from power in nineteen forty three. So he was kind of a good guy. Okay. So the plan involve delivering some of channels papers which were highly critical of Mussalini to the shop. So that they could be bartered for Chino's life after Hitler vetoed the scheme Pucci, drove Edda to the Swiss border on January ninth nineteen forty four and insured her escape Pucci, then attempted to flee to Switzerland himself. But he was arrested and transported to San Vittore prison in Milan. The Pucci prison he's at the Pucci prison. Oh, no. I'm sorry. It's a San Vittore prison. But at the time when he was there Pucci prison. He was actually he was tortured there by the stop. Oh and a futile attempt to extract information, he then managed to escape and reach Switzerland where he remained until the end of the war. So this is. All he did all of this before he like thirty years old. Yeah. So the first clothes designed by Pucci were for the Reed college skiing team and his designs came to wider attention in nineteen forty seven when he was on leave and zehr Motte, Switzerland skiwear that he had designed for a female friend was photographed by Tony for cell photographer, working for Harper's bazaar. So just so happened that she was in this Linke ski suit. And Tony for cell was like, I gotta get this for this high fashion magazine for sales editor 's Pucci to design skiwear for a story on European winter fashion, which ran in the winter nineteen forty eight issue of the bizarre Pucci was the first person to design a one piece ski suit K. That's like a big snow. Sue more like more like a slinky skiing catsuits stretchy material was that functional as the ski suit or is that more for up race key. It's more appraise ski. Yes. So it was like more for hanging out in. The lodge and drinking martinis than it is for actually skiing. Yes. Down the mountain. But it was there. But it was there is one piece people were like, I must have it is so beautiful. So although there had been some experiments with stretch fabrics in Europe before the war poochies sleek designs caused a sensation. And he received several offers from American manufacturers to produce them. Instead, he left the air force and set up an haute couture house in the fashionable resort of Ken Zona that Amata on the isle of Capri as we all have done at one time or another in our lives. So incidentally, his he used his knowledge of stretch fabrics swimwear line in nineteen forty nine naturally. But he soon moved onto other items such as brightly colored boldly patterned silk, scarves, which he is still. I mean, the the fashion house is still very well known for today. Yes, I own a Pucci scarf sometimes aware at around my head. I'm not angle. I am a little I am not as fashionable as most people tied around my neck like like like an airlines to her like an airline stewardess. I was gonna say like a Boston Brahmin type like high end person, but stewardess works too. So Stanley, Marcus of Neiman, Marcus encouraged him to use the designs in blouses. And then a popular line of wrinkle free printed silk dresses Hughes, silk jersey, specifically, which is made of silk, that's cut on the bias. And so it's stretchy informed. Fitting and also vary washable wearable. Okay. Because this does silk wrinkle. It does not okay. Yeah. It's very nice doesn't breathe that great which is very seventy s but either way. Pucci editor boutique in Rome as business thrived helped by capris role as destination for the international jet set. So he was like right in the middle of rich people. So by the early nineteen fifties Pucci was achieving international recognition, receiving the Neiman, Marcus award in Dallas and the bird is sunshine award in Miami. And by the bird, I in sunshine Burdon sunshine award in Miami for being so fabulous. By the nineteen sixties Pucci was further thrust integrator status when Marilyn Monroe became a fan. She was photographed by George barris in a number of his items in which would be some of her final photographs. So some of the last photo of Marilyn Monroe. She's in Pucci also nude, but that's another story. It was a nude photo shoot. But also she had some Pucci close to choose. Okay. We'll talk about as the decade progressed. His designs were worn by everyone from Sophia Loren to Jackie Kennedy and later day pop icons such as Madonna in the early nineteen nineties in fashion history, especially during the period of the nineteen fifties and nineteen sixties Pucci was a perfect transition example between luxuriance couture and ready to wear in Europe and North America. So in February nineteen fifty nine he married, Christina non nominee from Rome. About whom he later remarked, quote, I'm married about a Celli. Good. I don't know. I I've been looking at this line for the past couple of days. And I'm like, I don't know if that means like, oh, I married a beautiful voluptuous woman. Could how look at how gorgeous she is. Or was he like Shelley? You know what I mean? Like he have married a Picasso. He could've made it because. Exactly. Yes. So they had two children Ella Sandro and Ladda Mia Allesandro died in a car crash in nineteen ninety eight six years after his father died. But back to his earlier days in nineteen sixty five New York ad agency. Jack, tinker and associates was hired by braniff International Airways to update their image. The agency's Mary wells hired Alexander Girard to remodel the terminals and Pucci to design new clothes for the air hostesses. Well, he already knew how to do a scar. Yes. So done that wrestling outfit. Just oh, wait till you hear about what the outfits looked like as the ads put it was quote the end of the plane plane. Yes, very good. Play on words. Pucci would end up designing six complete collections for braniff, hostesses pilots and ground crew between sixty five and seventy four a market is impact was that by sixty eight Barbie had versions of all his first four uniforms. These avant-garde creations were designed as individual components to be added or removed as whether dictated the uniforms included turtlenecks, t shirts, crap jackets and Kulat s-. Among the more unusual innovations was a bubble helmet. Which was a clear plastic hood worn by flight attendants between terminal buildings and aircraft to protect their hairdos from rain in the blast. Of jet engines, I'm gonna show you a picture, and they're literally like when you hear that description. You're like, oh, it's like a plastic like you see an old lady where the groceries around. No. It was literally like a space helmet that was like around their head that they would like click onto their heads. It was easy. So it's supposed to look like space a modern sixties. So there were two designs of the bubble helmet that were dubbed rain dome by the braniff Airways Puccio Inc. Gerard's be I logo into some of his prints. So a meal Pucci was very into like signing his. Prince. And that's why and I'll talk a little bit more about this. But they're very his work is still very recognisable easy to identify. So poochies influence also extended to the moon. What? Yes. Oh, let me tell you. He suggested the three bird motif for the design of the Apollo fifteen mission patch, although the crew replaced his blues and greens with more patriotic red, white and blue. So he designed the mission patch for okay? So he died in nineteen ninety two of heart attack and his daughter jomie Pucci continued to design under the Pucci name and the French LVMH luxury goods empire acquired sixty seven percent of Pucci in two thousand in the two thousand LA Domi became image director, while LVMH brought in major designers such as Christian Lacroix who is the creative director from two thousand to two thousand five and in October two thousand five Matthew Williamson and Peter Dundas from two thousand nine to twenty fifteen and must CMO georgette de from twenty fifteen to twenty seventeen. Unfortunately, there is currently no head designer for the house of Pucci. Are they reusing designs? They're using they're using a team of design, which all fashion houses have. But usually you have a head designer whose like, okay, we're going to do like these are the color scheme. This is the general like I wanna go. Yeah. Sheep. It's all sheet all the time, fluffy sheep. That's what I want shorn, sheep gem, sheep, jumping sheep were sleeping. There's pillows. It's like Certa matches commercial so fashion. Honestly, we could do this. Do. I mean, we had a vision. Boom right there right off the bat. So how's Pucci is there's rumors that Pucci is not doing great. When it was under Matthew Williamson. It was really it was like back in a major way because it kind of after he died at kind of like because it changed hands so many times. And there really wasn't like a consistent thread, the sixties wasn't that huge towards the, you know, the early two thousands. So. It's been kind of up and down. And so the idea right now is that poochies not doing great. But they're still putting out ready to wear every spring and fall. So so how does anybody know if they're looking at Pucci, okay? So dresses and blouses and anything Pucci are very late sixties, they have like a swirly type print, and they're usually multicolored the bright bright, bright bright, the different styles of prints like the actual like print style can be in a bunch of different colors. So he had a different color ways for each pattern, which is really cool. And he also was very liberal with how the patterns were like put so can be located or like on an angler whatever or like cut away. So you could do a border on the bottom of a blouse or address or like make the back different from the front, which is really cool. They were printed on silk jersey almost universally sometimes on a velvet for winner but nine times out of ten jersey simple cuts shifts dresses, Maxine buttoned up blouses, just like dead. Simple stuff, usually unlined and a great way to idea Pucci is to look for a signature and the print. He signed it Amelio his first name. So somebody like Nancy Sinatra with her white boots that are made for walk. Exactly see her in a little shift. Dress little like ten ten look thing in like a wild like yellow hot pink green and then little white boots. And then you're like, oh my God, that's a Pucci. But if you think it's if you think you found a Pucci like in vintage store, whatever you just got to kind of look around and you'll see the Amelio signature cool. Yeah. Very easy to find. So next up ROY Helton Frowick born April twenty third nineteen thirty two in Des Moines, Iowa, aka halston, one word halston. Halston developed an interest in sewing from his grandmother, and he began grading hats and altering clothes for his mother and sister as boy in nineteen fifty two halston move to Chicago where he enrolled in a night course, the school of the Art Institute of Chicago. And he worked as a window dresser. In nineteen Fifty-three. He opened his own hat business and halston hats were bought by actress Kim Novak Gloria Swanson, Deborah Kerr and had a hopper and his first big break came in the Chicago daily news ran a brief story on his fashionable hats, this was like hat time. Like the fifties was like hat prime prime time hat town USA. Yep. In nineteen fifty seven he opened his for shop, which was called the boulevard salon on north Michigan avenue in Chicago. And it was at this point that he began to use his middle name as professional moniker during his childhood. He had been referred to as halston to distinguish himself between him and his uncle ROY. So everyone called him halston and halston is kind of like, I don't know. It's like it sounds high end. So he moved to New York City late fifty seven I working for milliner lily dash. And within a year he had been named the co designer at shea becoming acquainted with several fashion editors and publishers and left her studio to become head milliner for department store Bergdorf Goodman in their custom milliner salon. So he the the turning point of his career was when he designed the pillbox hat for Jackie Kennedy that she wore to her president's inauguration. So that little pink pillbox that's a halston in nineteen sixty one. So when he moved to designing women's wear Newsweek dubbed him, the premier fashion designer of all America. So he hit bit. He's Jackie Kennedy wars little hat. That's all it took. So when hats fell out of fashion, he moved onto designing clothing, and he opened his first boutique on Madison Avenue in nineteen sixty eight the collection that year included a dark Jade velvet wedding gown for advertising, executive Mary wells Lawrence and she was married to CEO of braniff International Airways. Second his name was Harding Lawrence, and she would be instrumental in bringing halston to braniff nineteen seventy designed brain of hostess pilot ticket agent ground personnel. Uniforms. This was after Pucci did this was after Pucci up. Apparently brand was all about partnering with fashion designers to make their hostess uniforms kind of strange, so he launched his first ready to wear line. Halston limited in nineteen sixty-nine halston designs were usually simple and minimalist but sophisticated glamorous. But also comfortable at the same time. He liked to use soft luxuriance fabric, silk chiffon. And he later told vogue that he got rid of all the extra details that didn't work the didn't tie buttons didn't buttons zippers that didn't sip wrap dresses that didn't ramp. I've always hated things that don't work. Good love that. Yeah. When there's like extra tassels on. I know that's your that so much. Yeah. Yeah. Well, then you would love a halston. Halston is dead. Simple. You know, like seventies. Maxi dress with a strong shoulder, and it goes straight down. He got that little belt buckle belt thing with maybe a little shiny something that is like so Allston little ball. He was working like black bone to- jumpsuit Jones long jump suits, really deep the necklines that kind of thing. Very like sexy sexy studio fifty four tight look. Yep. So another design characteristic was the use of bias. So he believed that close cut and sewn from the bias of every fabric can develop a sexy, polished image to tell you. I don't know if that me, okay. I'm gonna tell you what. So in a in a fabric. You gotta warp in a wept. Right. So she's making motions like she took her. Yeah. Like make she made her fingers into a waffle fry. Yeah. That's what I did. So you got the warp running horizontal and the west running vertical or vice versa. Remember what it is depends. So you could rotate it, you could rotate it doesn't matter warping left. So by cutting something on the bias. Normally, you would if you were making a shirt, you would lay out your fabric, and the warp would be going. Down the one going back and forth, and then you would just cut cut cut cut cut. And then so and whatever like wrapping paper like wrapping paper what cutting on the bias means that you turn it ninety degrees. So the warp in west are on an angle. Okay. And what that does it automatically makes the fabric stretchy. Oh, when you pull something in the opposite direction of where it's running it makes it a little bit stretcher. Okay. He has some give and by cutting fabric on the bias. And then making close out of that it like adheres to the curves of the body and it flows so much nicer. Okay. So when you think of like, like, a nineteen thirties gown, satin gown, that's like very close to the body and beautiful that's cut on the bias. And a lot of times the the seems will be at angles to to kind of take advantage of that. And so it's very flattering. It's very flattering way to cut fabric and make just about any type of fabric. More comfortable and like easier to work with because no matter what kind of fabric. It is. There will always be some sort of stretch when it's cut on the bias. Wow. So there you go. There you go everybody. Jeff mayor taught me that. Thank you, Jeff. He doesn't listen to podcasts. So he okay. So impasse history. People had the interpretation that shows a woman's body shape was mainly through the curve of the clothing. Helton changed the fitted silhouette and created new definition of showing the female body shape by allowing the natural flow of the fabric to create its own shape. So this idea of instead of. Tailoring something so tight to the body to actually show women shave cutting it on the bias allowed the fabric kind of flow over your body to make it a little bit more flattering. And it was still be sexy without being like like stuck to person painted on painted on. Exactly, it's a little bit more like flow e like through this on like, pajamas halston said pants give women the freedom to move around. Like they've never had before. They don't have to worry about getting into low furniture. Low sports cars pants will be with us for many years to come probably forever. If you can make that statement in fashion. Pants. I did it. I made pants her time. That's what I that's for many us comb. I mean, I'm not going to make a statement. But we're going to be wearing pants for a while. So this is like early seventies. Like, everyone if you wanted to wear a dress your address only like like super fashionable women were paints all the time. When you watch like award shows, and there's a lady in like tuxedo. It's always kind of like if you don't act it. Yeah. It's still shocking. So yeah. So it sounds crazy that he was like pants what a thing as turns out. It was here we go. So. Also in the nineteen seventies his ultra suede suit was a big hit crai-. So ultrasuede is like like, your couch maker, fiber microfinance. That's what all tra- swayed is. So it's not actually swayed. It's like regular fabric. That's been treated to kind of felt it and soft, and that was wasn't used in a major way in clothing until halston. Okay. So it was not only like like a sexy cut of clothing, but it was also soft to the touch. So it made it like extra glamorous sexy. So could reach over to something like this again gabardine. Exactly. So he brought functionality into fashion. So this more of like, comfortable sexiness. He designed the ultra suede shirtdress and reintroduced pants for women as I mentioned pants. It's going to happen. It's Mark my words, the shirtdress was interpreted as an along gated men shirt, and he also included elements of sportswear and combine that into women's clothing merchant features from both womenswear and menswear together. So the shirt dress was originally made to look like like you stayed over at immense house. Yes. Through on a shirt like through a belt over an Uncle Scrooge nightgown, exactly. But like if you're if you're a supermodel your look amazing. You don't look like Scrooges. So his boutique drew celebrity clients like Palley Anjelica Huston, gene Tierney, Lauren Bacall, Margaux Hemingway. Elizabeth Taylor Bianca Jagger and Liza Minnelli and both Jagger and Manelli would become close friends of his so from nine hundred sixty eight to seventy three his line earned an estimated thirty million dollars in nineteen Seventy-three house Silva's line to Norton Simon Inc for sixteen million dollars, but remained its principal designer. This afforded him creative control with near unlimited financial backing and in nineteen seventy five max factor released helton's first name sake. Fragrance for women called hell Ston by nineteen seventy seven sales from the perfume had generated eighty five million dollars in sales. Yeah, he was he was it in the seventies. He was all of it. Like you had to have a halston and wear halston perfume and like dance studio fifty four in like Paulson jumps it. Throw the seventies Helton had expanded his line to include menswear luggage. Handbags lingerie and betting. Vogue later noted that halston was responsible for popularizing caftans, which he made for Jackie Kennedy and Matt jersey halter top dresses and polyurethane into American fashion. Yes. My favorite of the fabrics, polyurethane, Hollier breathe. A bull polyurethane is like where they just make like raincoats outta. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I I can't like conjure up a Halse polyurethane halston. But I'm sure there's one out there. But the kaftans are for like lounging on your husband's yacht. Right. Yep. And drinking a very wide MARTINI. But yes, he popularized caftans and captains is very seventies thing. Yeah. Or a very Lauren thing. Sure, depending I mean kaftans are coming back, by the way. So he was influential in design of uniforms, so in seventy seven he was contacted by braniff Airways to create a new look for their flight attendants. Yes, he created there one. I know he created muted Brown. Uniforms with distinctive h logo and he created interchangeable separates in shades of bone tannin Tope, which the airline extended to the seat covers using Brown. Argentinean leather the entire scheme was dubbed ultra touch by the airline in reference to halston ultrasuede designs and was extremely evocative of the late nineteen seventies. Oh, you think money on leather and all his fabric of like that. And they're not around Oregon trashed by like seventy nine. An elaborate party was thrown in February nineteen seventy seven dubbed three nights in L Caputo to introduce the new house and fashions along with the new and elegant braniff International Airways, Brennan chairman. Harding lawrence. His wife, Mary wells Lawrence. First lady, lady bird Johnson and halston himself along with his halston. Nets were in attendance for the grand presentation. So this like what fire fest was supposed to be. Yes. But like seventies. Cocaine bowls cocaine is terrible. So Howson ladies the women that the the models that hung out with him notice the halston. That's how tonight. Yes. So they were in attendance for the grand presentation and these women included pet Cleveland and Jelica Houston and Beverly Johnson among many others. So halston is entre would arrive at selected points during the party and outfits that matched the deep tones of braniff Airway's, new color schemes beautiful aids of Brad. Yes. Brown and. And yes, it was part of this new so called elegance campaign. Yes. So the party and the halston creations were hit not only with the fashion press. But also with brand employees ease who thought that they were the easiest and most comfortable uniforms. They had ever worn. Okay. Yeah. Good for them. Yeah. He was asked by the US Olympic Committee to design the PanAmerican games and US Olympic team's uniforms in nineteen seventy six and he also designed the uniforms for the girl scouts, the New York. Police department and the Avis rent car system. Yeah. He was super uniform very good at winter. He did for the girl scouts. I mean, probably like little green jumpsuits. I'm assuming. I mean, I can look it up. I'll pictures of like typical designs of these fashion designer spot. Yeah. I imagine he was very popular because he made like comfortable uniforms. What's it of reserves? A catsuit at a pantsuit a jumpsuit, wait jumpsuit, pantsuit catsuit, go. Okay. So a pantsuit is something that Hillary Clinton wears. Okay. So that's like a separate jacket and pants, and they're usually the same color and usually in a color other than well. No, they're usually in like, just whatever color you. Catsuit is like a slinky like like skintight jumpsuit. Okay. So that's like cat woman. Yes. That's a catsuit. Okay. A jumpsuit is like like a catsuit but comfortable so a jumpsuit is like pants and top that are like connected together as a onesie. Yes. And there's either like a button in the back that you can like take it if you have to p the whole thing off, but it is notoriously extremely comfortable to wear. Yes. So great. Thank you, welcome. Hey, anytime so in nine hundred eighty three halston signed a six year licensing deal worth a reported one billion dollars with the retail chain JC Penney. Cheesy penny s a billion dollars billion dollars. So the line was called Helton three it consisted of affordable, clothing, accessories, cosmetics and perfume ranging from twenty four dollars to two hundred dollars. So at the time the move was considered controversial as no other high end designer had ever licensed designs to amid price chain retail store out while house was excited about the deal and felt that it would only expand his brand the deal damaged his image with high. Fashion retailers felt that his name had been cheapened. Bergdorf Goodman at the time dropped his health limited line from their store. Shortly after plans for halston three were announced and much jerk move. I know because they were like us not even like fancy anymore. Forget it if if the commoners can wear this then forget it. We don't even want part of it. So the halston three line for JC. Penney was poorly received and was eventually discontinued. However, this would pave the way for other high end designers to sell their lines at stores varying price levels in the future. So now, you can get coach at Macy's. And you can get you know, Tom Ford, you can get worse. You get any of that fancy things at target. You get fancy things at target targeted those collaborative lines for very long time with designers, and they were I think really successful while I think the Peter Palumbo line. Kind of like was the beginning of the end for that. Because that was not nice anyway. So also in nineteen eighty three halston limited which was owned by Norton. Simon Inc was acquired by as Mark Inc. And after the acquisition halston began to lose control over his namesake company and grew frustrated. A billion dollars. You still had a billion dollars? But as label changed hands. It would be owned by Playtex international, Beatrice, foods and four other companies. He continued to lose control and by nineteen Eighty-four was banned from creating designs for health and enterprise, so he was kicked out of his own company. So he attempted to buy back his company, but halston enterprises was eventually acquired by Revlon nine hundred eighty six and he was paid a salary by Revlon, but it stopped designing clothing for the company and continue designing for family and friends most notably LIZA Minelli, and Martha Graham k the choreographer the line continued on with various designers until about nineteen ninety when Revlon discontinued the clothing portrait of line, but continued selling halston perfumes so in nineteen eighty eight Howson tested positive for HIV and after his health began to fail. He moved to San Francisco where he was cared for by his family and on March twenty six nineteen ninety he died of Kaposi sarcoma. An aids defining illness at the Pacific Presbyterian medical center in San Francisco. His remains were. Cremated? And in two thousand ten halston was the subject of the documentary called altruism weighed in search of halston. So again, wholesome clothing, very like, easy, breezy, like comfortable jumpsuits, long maxi-dresses various very seventies. If you can imagine like Diana Ross, wearing something that's definitely like a very healthy finesse kind of look halston in the halston. That's were like key people in the studio fifty four era. He would like roll up with all of these supermodels like on his arm and like hanging off him, and they would dance dance and do cocaine, and it was like the best time ever. So so now, my third fashion designer is eve only Dona Matussin Laurente born August first nineteen thirty six in around French geria- to French parents who went out area. Yes. Okay. His parents were named Charles and Lucienne Andre Mathu. Sun'll Laurente, he grew up in villa by the Mediterranean with his two younger sisters, Michelle and Bridget, Bridget Brigitte. Visit Michelle Brigitte they're not mentioned again. Say Laurent likes to create intricate paper dolls and by his early teen years. He was designing dresses for his mother and sisters common theme at the age of seventeen say Laurent, moved to Paris and enrolled at the shoplift Syndicale haute couture where his designs quickly gained notice in nineteen Fifty-three Saint Lawrence submitted three sketches to a contest for young fashion designers organized by the international wool secretariat. Oh, the wool secretariat. Have you heard of the wool secretariat? Big wool sheep. She will. She sexy sheep. We're coming back to the sexy, fashion, sheep fashion shape. So barnes. So he won third place subsequently he was invited to attend the award ceremony held in Paris in December of that same year and during his stay in Paris, Saint Laurent Michelle he met Michelle debruyn Hoff who was the then editor in chief of the French edition of vogue magazine and connection of his father debruyn Hof known by some as considerate person. Who encouraged new talent was impressed by the sketches sailor. Brought with him and suggested he become a fashion designer. Oh, okay. Saint Laurent would eventually consider, of course of study at the shumur Syndicale the council, which regulates the Comptoir industry and provides training to its employees say Laurente followed it as vice and leaving around for Paris after graduation began his studies there and eventually graduated as a star pupil for more information on the Shumba syndicate haute couture, you listened to six fashioned kills. Thank you. That's my first round of fashion stuff will not be the last so later that same year he enter. The international will secretary competition again and won beating out his friend for nano Sanchez and young German student Carl Lagerfeld, that's how old car Lagerfeld was so shortly after his when he brought a number of sketches to debris Hoff who recognize close similarities to sketches he had been shown that morning by Christiane Dior. Knowing that your had created the sketches that morning and the young man could not have seen them to burn off sent him to your who hired him on the spot 'cause they had the same like design sensibility was the she thought somebody had copied. No, no, he definitely just they both had the same kind of fashion. Silly. And he was like you should work for your so although or recognized his talent immediately say Leroux spent his first year at the house of your on Monday tasks such as decorating the studio in designing accessories like an intern like an intern he basically treated him like an intern. So eventually, however he was allowed to submit sketches for the Qatar collection and with every passing season. More of his sketches were accepted by your in August, nineteen fifty seven met with Saint Laurent's mother to tell her that he had chosen Saint Laurent to succeed him as a designer his mother later said that she had been confused by the remark as your was only fifty two years old at the time. Both she and her son were surprised when in October of that year, George died at a health spa northern Italy of a massive heart attack. If you remember it was either a bone like a fish bone in sandwich. Yeah. Or he was having sex either way he died of a heart attack. Again their way of. Yes. Either way a bone was involved. So. Nine hundred fifty seven th sailor found himself at age twenty one the head designer of the house of Dior. Twenty one twenty one in like, one of the greatest modern fashion houses ever, the first like high fashion house that made like a major impact in twenty and twenty century fashion at twenty one he was the head of this fashion house gosh, twenty one year old can't tiger nowadays. No. So his spring nineteen Fifty-eight collection. Almost certainly say the enterprise from financial ruin the straight line of his creations. Softer version of yours new-look catapulted him to international stardom with what would later be known as the trapeze dress. So trapeze dress is basically very unflattering on anybody with a yes. Silva, call supermodel, so trapeze dress, you imagine like so you got address on instead of it like like coming from your armpits to your waist, and they're being like a defined waist and then from your waist. There is a skirt that goes down either an airline where it kind of like flows from the hip, or it's like, you know, curved down to like skim your body trapeze dress instead of the skirt starting at the waste it starts at the armpits. So the idea is that it creates like a very clean line and very like flow e shape without a lot of like bells and whistles, but again, if you have breasts or any kind of curve or relied shoulder or a big butts or whatever it just like you look like you're wearing like a baby doll dress. But if you're a high fashion model, it looks in great included, the yeah. Whatever so. Others including the collection. We're dresses with narrow shoulder and flared gently at the bottom at this time. He shortened his surname to Saint Laurent because the international press found is hyphenated triple name difficult to spell. So his fall nineteen Fifty-eight collection was not greeted with the same level of approval as his first collection and leader collections. From the house of DR featured hobble skirts and beatnik fashions that were savaged by the press. So a hobble skirt is a skirt that instead of from the waist going out. It goes from the waist, and then it, and then it goes tight all the way down and then his extra tight right by the ankle so longer than a pencil skirt longer than pencil skirt extra tight and actually like, and that's why it's called a hobbles 'cause you're gonna go because it literally hobbles you. Yes. So they weren't super popular. Yeah. Probably meant for secretaries there probably meant for not being stood in walked in. You know conceptual at best. And then the beatnik look was very French black turtlenecks the slim pants berets long cigarette holder, a red lip. You know, people didn't like it. Apparently, the beat Knicks were not popular in the sixties. It was they were considered like like bizarre like wild things. So their style was not cool. So in nineteen sixty eight Laurent found himself conscripted to serve in the French army during the war of independence. There was speculation. At the time that Marcel Boussac the owner of the house of your in a powerful press baron had put pressure on the government, not to conscripts Saint Laurent in nineteen fifty eight nine hundred fifty nine but after the disastrous nineteen sixty season, reversed course and ask the designer be conscripted. So that he could be replaced lease take him away. Please take away. We hope he dies geria-. Teas so sailor out was in the military for twenty days before the stress of hazing by fellow. Soldiers led him to being admitted to a military hospital. He received news that he had been fired from Dior while he was there this exacerbated his condition and he was transferred to a military hospital where he was given large doses of sedatives and psychoactive drugs and subjected to electroshock therapy. Yeah. I know. Related quickly from what I understand, it seems like he was very sensitive individual who was prone to fits of high emotion and rage. And so this would continue throughout his life, and he himself trace the origin of both his mental problems and his drug addictions to this time at the hospital. And so after he was released from the hospital in November nineteen sixty Saint Laurent sued your for breach of contract in one. So after a period of convalescence he and his partner industrialist pre Pierre. Berge say started their own fashion house called Yves Saint Laurent YSL with funds from American millionaire j Mack Robinson and the couple split romantically. Nineteen seventy six but remained business partners until the end of around life. So in the sixties and seventies though, firm popularized fashion trends, such as the beatnik look. So that started to become like hot safari jackets for men and women tight trousers tall hybrids and arguably the most famous classic tuxedo. For women in nineteen sixty six which was known as less smoking. Oh, yes. Yes. Listening. Dinner jackets were known are called smoking jackets in Europe and making that kind of like a sexy women's cut and making it look like a tuxedo outfit was referred to as listening by the Celera. So that was so hot people loved it. All my God. I'm gonna wear tuxedo. A lady get out. He also dance pants hell Ston. He predicted it. So he also did Mondrian collection where do these little like shift dresses intent dresses clan that were had Mondrian prints on them, which is really cool knows that was huge and sixty five Saint Laurent also started mainstreaming the idea of wearing silhouettes from the twentieth, thirties and forties. So kind of going retro. And this was the first time that this was like happening in fashion. People are looking back at your way, you sail around brought in new changes to the fashion industry in the sixties and seventies. And he opened his press to porterhouse a cell Reeve gauche in nineteen sixty seven where he was starting to shift his focus from haute couture to ready to wear so predator morte predator Portes. Pretty poor time, which is just ready to wear which is cheaper. And I mentioned this in episode six where ready to wear as made with machines, and it's a little bit more industrialized, and so the clothing cheaper. While haute couture is made by hand every aspect of this made by hand. So he was kind of focusing on like getting more of his fashions out into the world and making more money, frankly. So he was the first French Katori to come out with a full ready to wear line and his first customer was Catherine Deneuve. Oh, yeah. May you may have heard of her French actress? So during the sixties and seventies he was considered one of Paris's jet set, and he was often seen at clubs in France and New York City such as regimes and studio fifty four and was known to be both a heavy drinker a frequent user of cocaine tracks. Yeah. When he was not actively supervising the preparation of a collection. He spent time at his villa in Marrakech, Morocco the ready to wear line. Extremely popular with the public. If not with critics and eventually earned many times more for Saint Laurent birthday than the haute couture line, whoever Saint Laurent whose health had been precarious for years became Radic under the pressure of designing to Qatar to ready to wear collections every year, which. To be fair. Carl Lagerfeld was doing every year. Yes. Doing to Qatar to ready to wear and like ninety six looks per which is insane. Yeah. And granted he had a team and Chanel has. I mean is just one of the biggest most insane fashion houses, you can even get behind. So there is he wasn't just like alone sketching. But the fact that channel was putting out that many. And there are almost no haute couture houses that are doing at that level anymore is kind of amazing so back to showroom. So he increasingly turned to alcohol and drugs, and at some shows he could barely walk down the runway at the end of the show, and he had to be supported by models, and they are not strong. I don't know if you've ever seen a model, but they're not strong. So after disastrous nineteen eighty-seven ready-to-wear show in New York City, which featured one hundred thousand dollar jeweled casual jacket only days after the black Monday stock market crash. So it seemed a little tone deaf at the time. He turned over the responsibility of the ready to wear line to his assistance, and although the line remained popular with his fans. It was soon dismissed as boring by the press. So in one thousand nine three sailor became the first living fashion designer to be honored by the Metropolitan Museum of art with solo exhibition in two thousand one he was awarded the rank of the honorable legion. By French President Jacques Chirac and sailor out retired into two and became increasingly reclusive living at his homes in Normandy in Morocco with his pet French bulldog Mucci. A favorite among his favorite female clientele. Say Laurent had numerous muses that inspired his work chief among them was Victoria, Dutra low who once said of Saint Laurent, he didn't love women. He used them shoot. Yeah. He was apparently, very violent. He would throw things that people really fly into rages. He was very abusive to his muses. He was he didn't really treat them like people. But because he was so he was like a fashion genius for whatever that means. He kinda got away with it. Which is shitty. I mean, and I feel like nowadays. I was actually just talking about this with my co worker Andrew that like this idea of like the creative genius either an artist or a designer whatever there are fewer and fewer people now who will put up with their garbage yet. Just because they're a genius like that that sheen is kind of off of those fields. And so people. Can especially women feel a little bit more comfortable standing up to giants of the industry and say, actually, no you can't talk to me like that. Like just you can still put out good work. Not like screen beat me or whatever you do. So that thankfully is becoming less of a thing. Jab everyone. Yeah. Good job. Everybody took till twenty nineteen. Among sailor, other muses was Lou Dila fillets who is the daughter of a French marquee in an Anglo Irish fashion model, she also design scarves. She died recently a couple years ago, and she also designed jewelry, she was cool also Somali supermodel Iman whom he wants described as his quote dream woman, wife, David Bowie, but also an incredible model and activist and makeup. Oh, yeah. Yeah. She has her whole line of makeup. Like, I think it's called international beauty or something like that. But she was the first makeup. I guess she's on artist designer make up like CO. Yeah. You know, what I'm talking about entrepreneur shirt makeup entrepreneur who created makeup for darker skinned women. So she's known for that. And not just being David Bowie's wife. I apologize for that. Also, the aforementioned French actress, Catherine to was also his ES he died on June first two thousand eight of brain cancer as at his residence in Paris. According to the New York Times, if you'd as prior he and bear Jay had been joined in a civil union with sailor out was diagnosed as terminal with only one or two weeks left to live beige in the doctor mutually decided that would be better for him not to know of his impending death. Bourget said, quote, I have the belief that eve would not be strong enough to accept that. Yeah. His body was cremated and his ashes were scattered in Marrakech in the major L garden arrested in botanical garden that he owned with bare shea since nineteen eighty and often visited to find inspiration refuge beige said at the funeral service quote. But I also know that I will never forget what I oh you and that one day I will join you under the Moroccan Palm's. So you've still around as a house as a fashion house. So UCLA around is probably best known for reworking their brand every couple of years, especially most recently. So it's been known and branded alternately as ISE Laura Wia cell and currently it's known as just sailor. Okay. Famous signers who've been creative directors for Wia sell include Tom Ford, and Eddie slim on and it is currently helmed by a designer Anthony vaccarello, and it's still it's still very big. It makes a ton of money. I don't know how often they do Ocotober anymore. But they definitely do at least a ready to wear line every spring and fall feel like I've seen Kuzma IX perfume. Yes. So too. That's another thing. So why sell a lot of fashion houses have branched into accessories. But most often and more recently the branching into makeup and makeup is like they're making Bank on stuff because it costs twenty five cents to maybe twenty cents manufacturing. You're buying a thirty dollar lip gloss or whatever and people pick it up because the packaging is very heavy. It feels very luxurious YSL is well known as having like pretty high end make. It's good stuff. Tom Ford, though is like the tip top of designer makeup. And like I once like got a two ended like black eyeliner, Tom Ford black islander. It was heavy at felt like jewelry. It was amazing cool to the touch it made the best sharpest most beautiful black wing you've ever seen. I still have it it dried out three years ago. I still haven't ever sell when I pull it out of my thing. And I'm like, oh, Tom for that. I hold I hold it close to my face, and I just kind of gently. Yeah. It's very high end, very good Chanel toes. Very high end their nail polishes like huge rate. So yeah. So that's seventies fashion designers, and kind of a little nutshell for you, the q maybe I'll do eighty soon. We'll boy say so my quiz today is called studio. Fifty four a quiz on the Hollywood studio system and events in nineteen fifty four. Yes. Okay question. Number one, July nineteenth nineteen fifty four was the date of the release of the first single entitled. That's all right by this Rockin roller would go on to dominate music, movies and the hearts and minds of conspiracy, theorists everywhere. Name him. Question. Number two, the studio system in Hollywood, basically ran moving making for the majority of the twentieth century the first huge success of the Warner Brothers. Studio was also the first feature length talkie, which debuted in nineteen twenty seven warm-up that voice and tell me what the name of that movie was. Question. Number three, January twenty first nineteen fifty four the first nuclear powered submarine. The USS Nautilus was launched in Groton, Connecticut, the person's smashing the champagne bottle was none other than the first lady of the United States. What was her name? Question. Number four, the major studios in the system were known as the big five FOX film. Corporation Paramount Pictures are KO radio. Pictures Warner Brothers, and what lion of the film industry. Question. Number five September third nineteen fifty four high. The last new episode of what radio program is broadcast on this date after nearly three thousand episodes and twenty one years on the air. Question over six. Ironically Hollywood is extremely successful during the great depression, mostly because people like the escape FDR one set of this actress when the spirit of the people is lower than at any other time during this depression, it is a splendid thing that for just fifteen cents an American can go to a movie and look at the smiling face of a baby and forget his troubles what sweet singing and dancing, baby. Is he talking about? Question. Number seven March fourth nineteen fifty four this Canadian Bibi was born on this date and went on to act in movies waiting for guffman and home loan. But let's be honest. She's best known for her wigs and her pajama vests who is this comedian. Question. Number eight the youngest of the big five archaic pictures emerged in nineteen twenty eight after a merger with Radio Corporation of America are as well known logo of dog looking confused -ly into an Edison. Phonograph bell was originally a painting done by British artist Francis, Barada whose title and image was trademarked. What is the title of the painting and subsequent logo? Question. Number nine, November twenty eighth nineteen fifty four the death of this Italian physicist occurred on this day who many referred to as the architect of the atom. He was certainly busy during his fifty three years winning the Nobel prize for physics in nineteen thirty eight and even being one of the sixteen scientists who have elements named after them named him. And finally question number ten often in the studio system actors and actresses have their names changed by the studios to make them more marketable, meaning white or American sounding I'm going to name four actors given names and one of their best films. And you tell me what their star name was one ROY herald share junior in giant to Margarita Carmen, Ken, no in Gilda third Archibald Leach north by northwest and fourth Marian Morrison. The quiet man give you minutes think about it. We'll be right back with answers. I am. So. Checkout. I'm blondes I'm skinny I'm red. And I'm a little bit of a bit. I draft you up. Hey alert these glow Gill. This whole time black card. See? Seve? I will say the. Would. Two. I'm ready to crush this. Great. I'm very excited. I'm very excited about well. We'll talk about it. Okay question. Number one, July nineteenth nineteen fifty four was the date of the release of the first single entitled. That's all right by this rock and roller. Who would go on to dominate music, movies and the hearts and minds of conspiracy, theorists everywhere. Name him Elvis Presley of Louis Elvis Presley. Okay. Drunk. Elvis Presley Elvis, Aaron Presley had a twin brother that was stillborn. His name is Jesse Garin Presley. He apparently was haunted by this his entire life. And his mother Gladys often said he had the energy of two people, which is spooky spooky. Okay question. Number two, the studio system in Hollywood, basically ran making for the majority of the twentieth century the first huge success of the Warner Brothers. Studio was also the first feature length talkie, which debuted in nineteen twenty seven warm-up that voice and tell me what the name of the movie was the jazz singer is the Jess singer as it turns out, it's considered the first talkie, but the majority of scenes did not have live recorded sound. They actually dubbed it later. Okay. So just that's just like an interesting bit of trivia question. Number three, January twenty first nineteen fifty four the first nuclear powered submarine. The US Nautilus was launched in Groton, Connecticut, the person's smashing the champagne bottle was none other than the first lady of the United States. What was her name? Okay. Here is the only thing that's going to trip me up. Okay. I'm trying to think. When the inauguration dates were. Oh, sure. Yeah. So I'm thinking if by this point, they already changed it to January twentieth. That this would be Mamie. Eisenhower is that your final answer. Yeah. Yes. Correct. The Nautilus was also the first submarine to complete a submerged transit of the North Pole on August. Third nineteen fifty eight there you go. Question. Number four, the major studios in the system were known as the big five FOX film. Corporation Paramount Pictures are KO radio. Pictures Warner Brothers, and what lion of the film industry. MGM? It is GM headed by Louis b Mayer the cheap the chief publicist of GM in nineteen sixteen. His name was Howard Dietz created the roaring lion logo as an Omar to his almo- matters mascot, the Columbia University lion. The roaring lions name was Leo. But the sound of his roar wasn't added until nineteen twenty eight. I think you mentioned this in an earlier episode. Question. Number five September third nineteen fifty four Hieaux. Last new episode of what radio program is broadcast on this date after nearly three thousand episodes and twenty one years on the air, the lone ranger. It is the lone ranger the TV series was also a huge hit and rain on ABC from nineteen forty nine to nineteen fifty seven. Also, the guy who played Tahoe in the TV show was actually a native American man, he was mohawk. And I forgot his last name. It's not iron is something else. Steal over. He'll this wasn't just like. Yeah. It wasn't like a million guy was just which happened more often than our Lebanese a lot of anyway question over six ironically Hollywood was extremely successful during the great depression, mostly because people like the escape FDR once said of this actress when the spirit of the people is lower than at any other time during this depression, it is a splendid thing that for just fifteen cents an American can go into a movie and look at the smiling face of a baby and forget his troubles. What sweet singing dancing baby talking about Shirley temple. It is really temple. Did you know? That at the time false claims circulated the temple was not a child, but a thirty year old core due in part to her stocky body. That's me. Apparently the rumor was so prevalent, especially in Europe that the Vatican dispatched father Silvio Massana to investigate whether she was indeed a child what? Yeah. Differ heard of that. I know I had never heard of that. Also, they said that she couldn't be a kid because she never had any missing teeth during her like one issue be on screen and stuff. And the thing was they just use flippers. Just. Yup. Just like packed it in a fake tooth. And also they said that they filed her adult teeth down to make it look like, maybe she was actually child everyone. That's not a real thing. Also by nineteen thirty nine. There were fifteen thousand movie theaters in the United States more than banks and the number of theaters per capita was twice that of the mid nineteen eighties. So movies were like a big. Well, it was the only place you see movies, really. Okay question. Number seven March fourth nineteen fifty four this Canadian Bibi was born on this date and went on to act. Onto Acton movies waiting for guffman and home alone. But let's be honest. She's best known for her wigs and her pajama vests who is this comedian, let alone. I think that's Catherine O'Hara. Read the debate. Did you read her article in vulture, so good? She's so funny. And so good guys if you don't watch it's Greek you should be watching it. There's four seasons of it on Netflix, the fifth seasons airing. Now, I personally didn't start watching until like season three because the name it turned me off. Don't let the view. It's an amazing television show. The best thing to come out at Canada probably ever more arose her geared Moyer arose is I would just if there were no other characters in the show. I would just watch her like swan around a mid western Canadian town. I'm assuming it's so her clothes are so good everything about she. So amazing. She's hysterical. Catharine can take that to take that to the Bank catheter hair. If you're listening, we love you. She's not she's in care about this anyway eight that's true. I don't know that for a fact if you if any of you, Catherine if any of you know, Catherine O'Hara, please give us. Gives us. No, don't tell us tell her. She should listen to podcast. Okay. Question of rate. The youngest of the big five archaic pictures emerged in nineteen twenty eight after a merger with the Radio Corporation of America are as well known logo a dog looking confused -ly into an Edison. Phonograph bell was originally a painting done by British artist Francis, Barada whose title an image was trademarked. What is the title of the painting and subsequent logo? His master's voice. It is his masters. Just killing this so Cording to contemporary gramophone company publicity material the dog a terrier named Nipper had originally belonged to Baratz brother, Mark when Mark Barat died Francis. Inherited Nipper with a cylinder phonograph and recording of Mark's voice Francis noted the peculiar interest that the dog took in the recorded voice of his late master emanating from the horn and conceive the idea of committing the scene to canvas. I've never rating thing you've ever heard. So the RMC the science museum that I used to work for had a giant Nipper still has giant version say, but it's like a. Fiberglass Nipper that was on top of a radio building in Rochester longest time, and it was still rates RCA radio. So we have it, and they have I don't work there anymore. But yeah, he's very cute. We've had interns cleaning him at one point, Missouri. Sweet. Okay question. Number nine, November twenty eighth nineteen fifty four the death of this talion physicist occurred on this day who many referred to as the architect of the atom bomb. He was certainly busy during his fifty three years winning the Nobel prize for physics in nineteen thirty eight and even being one of sixteen scientists who have elements named after them name him. This is is this Enrico Fermi. It is in Rico Fermi, he discovered the neutrino which he named in which makes sense, very Italian neutrino. Yeah. Nothing there tree. No. It's nothing and has the element of Fermi him. Okay. Here we go for all the marbles que question. Number ten often in the studio system actors and actresses had their names changed by the studios to make them more marketable. I e white or American sounding I'm going to name four actors given names and one of their best films. And you tell me what their star name was K K one ROY herald share junior and giant give me this one last. Okay. Margarita Carmen can Sinoe and Gilda Rita Hayworth Rita hair with you got it Archibald Leach north by northwest Cary Grant, Harry grant Marian Morrison the quiet, man. That's John Wayne. It is John Wayne. All right here, we go I'll say again, ROY Harold Scherer junior. And he was in giant. You're sweating. No. The closest ever been a perfect game. Okay. I am. I'm stuck between two. Okay. Roy herald share junior. All right. Just going to go with this one. And I think it's not probably right. But I'm gonna go with it. Anyway. Errol flynn. No gable. No. It's a Clark Gable? Let's actually is given name it's rock Hudson. Sorry. There. I'm so sorry. Time next time. You were so close you got you got nine point seven five points. This is it. I know I'm seeing. I was very proud of the bay. I went down like a YouTube spiral to look there is a twenty second clip that someone posted on Twitter at one point of her all the instances of her saying, Bibi. I'll show you according it's so funny anyway. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Came so close. I hope you all also did well on that quiz. And thank you for listening to my seventies fashion designer. This know how you did. You can tweet at us at missive vote. Pod. We have a website tripled up Papa dot com. We have a Facebook page misinformation trivia podcast, and you can also Email us at missing pod at gmaiLcom. Yup. And you can listen to us on that stream us on that for mentioned website or you can get us wherever podcast are found. Yeah. Except for Spotify. For now, which I'm not bitter about also from our website in our Twitter page, we have a little link to pay pal. If you want to toss a few bucks are way that will help us with our footmen upgrades and keeping the podcast running big shout out to my mother-in-law, Jennifer G who gave a really really nice o'day, Jennifer that was sold. Lou. We were incredibly touched. Yes. So thank you for that. And thanks so much for listening guys. Yeah. We'll catch. You. Bye.

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Wed. 1/29 - Brie Bella and Nikki Bella are Both Pregnant and Have Nearly Identical Due Dates

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Wed. 1/29 - Brie Bella and Nikki Bella are Both Pregnant and Have Nearly Identical Due Dates

"Welcome to the CELEB- news ride home for Wednesday January twenty ninth twenty twenty. I'm your host Kate Raft. Happy Happy Wednesday. Everyone it's really windy in L. A.. Today maybe Miley hard. After smoking her celebratory divorce blunt congrats by the way on the legally finalized Divorce Smiley and Liam today's topic's twelve of Billy Joel's motorcycles cycles got vandalized in a home invasion this past weekend Zach Ephron is dating someone named Halston Sage Brie Bella Fella and Nikki Bella are both pregnant and have pretty much the same due date on a corner. Cova is having another baby within reggae Iglesias Healy Bieber opened up about having a crooked pinkie finger. And we can all think Courtney Cox Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston's newfound friendship. Here's what you missed today in the world of Celebrity News. Billy Joel's has got robbed this past weekend. According to TMZ quote the cops say twelve motorcycles and a Home Office on the property had been vandalized and quote twelve motorcycles. I mean that's a lot of motorcycles vandalized that I'd be like a time consuming job. TMZ has yet to report. What kind of vandalizing happened to the motorcycles? And I'm just dying to you know what what happened. Like did someone come in and graffiti the motorcycles or did they smash them what the Hammer did. They like. Take a pocket doc in knife and carve out sing the song. You're the piano man on the side of like one of the motorcycle. I would love to know how exactly they got vandalized. Like what if they melted all the motorcycles into like one giant awesome looking sculpture or did someone just like peel over over. The motorcycles. Like vandalizing could mean so many different things. Did someone take a piss on. The motorcycles did someone on them so much that they can't work now. Oh my God John Sorry for saying that my brain is broken. Apparently Billy Joel is a huge motorcycle. Guy I I should have known that I didn't but now I do. I guess it attracts. I mean you know rich guy you need to have something to collect right. What else are you gonNA spend your money on? TMZ described his love for bikes sustain quote. He's a notorious gearhead and owns a local bike shop with even more vintage motorcycles. On hand. So it's no secret. He could around his native long island that he's got crazy love for his street. Machines and quote Okay Street machines a minister calling calling motorcycles street. MACHINE'S GONNA call every car or bus or motorcycle. A street machine from now on technically my legs are straight machines because like back I can walk on the street with them. The TMZ article also included like an embedded video of billy Joel when he went on Jay. Leno's Garage Raj that Web series that he does in the video. Jay Talks about how billy owns like over a hundred motorcycles and when I was watching the video is like wow like this is really soothing for some reason just like watching too old rich guys talk about different motorcycle brands. I don't know why I enjoyed it. I I feel like I could fall asleep to the sound of Billy Joel. Just saying do Godley. Anyway I hope he can replace the twelve motorcycles. That God vandalized. Something tells me Billy Joel can afford twelve motorcycles but if not hey started go fund me. I'll pay ZAC. Ephron has a new girlfriend with the name so outrageous that I had to read read it re different times to make sure I was reading the right thing. Okay Zach F. France. Alleged new girlfriend is this actress named Halston Sage H yes. That's her real name. And not the name of Manic Pixie Dream Girl who knits sweaters for trees and dreams of running an underground gambling ring and is the main character character in a guy named jared's pilot that he wrote for his college pilot writing class. nope she's named Halston sage and she's an actress Halston. Sage is from that. Show the ORRVILLE. Well she was also on the Nickelodeon show how to rock Halston. Sage are dating now. According to an insider who spoke with US weekly the insider said that they're quote in a serious relationship and in love. They spent the holidays together with part of that time in Santa Barbara and quote. Apparently the pair met when they were both in that movie neighbors in two thousand fourteen and allegedly. They hooked up at the time but then broke up after just a couple of months. Well now. They're back together and rarely they're in love. This news comes on the heels of Zach ending another relationship with Olympic swimmer from Denmark. Sarah Bro Ro. It's unclear when ZAC and Sarah broke up but the source who spoke to US weekly about him in Halston said that his last relationship with Sarah quote just just wasn't working out she came back to La and it never got going again and quote. I love the one two punch of announcing your break-up and new relationship in like one breath via source it's very efficient. Anyway congrats to Zach Ephron and Halston sage just out of curiosity I dated Ed Google to see of Halston sage was her real name and apparently it's pretty much yes or mostly her real name. She was born Halston. Jean sh- rage rage but started going by the name Halston sage when she modeled at the age of fourteen. I feel like if I was fourteen. I I would pick the name Halston sage age. Yeah actually I would pick it now at age twenty nine. I like that name. Should I change my name to Halston sage. There can be two of US right. I could be like the podcast Halston sage and she could be the actress Halston. Sage you know weird twist of events pro wrestling identical twins and stars of the show. Total Bellas Brie Bella and Nikki. Bella are both pregnant at the same time. And they revealed it in a joint announcement for people and the weirdest part of all of this. Is that their due dates. It's our only a week and a half apart. Sometimes the world is weird and this is one of those times like too famous. Identical twins got pregnant at the the exact same time. Like what are the odds. This is breeze second pregnancy. She had a daughter with her husband. Fellow wrestler Daniel Bryan a couple years ago he I just realized Brie Bella and Daniel Bryan both have last names but our first names interesting cassiem smart anyway. Nikki is engaged to her dancing with the stars pro. Artem Shit Vincent and this is her first pregnancy. She told people that she and Artem mm-hmm weren't trying to get pregnant. It just happened. She was previously engaged to wrestler and actor John Cena but they broke things off in July of twenty when he eighteen. The pregnant twins are apparently experiencing identical symptoms. And they're helping each other out and breeze giving Nikki tips on how to be pregnant. And it's just it's so fascinating. The whole people dot com reveal involves a big photo shoot and they sat down into the whole video from comment. Hey congrats play you clip from the sit down interview they did. He knows someone told us today. So like wow you. Guys are only weaken. have parts like you guys are. Having twins wins. Just the twins decide to grow in different rooms and I was like wow was uh Do you ever spend like four hours in a row. Just scrolling aimlessly under phone until you're is about to pop out of your head. Well that happens to me all the time and usually by our three of stocking an instagram influence. Or that I hate. 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They gave birth to twins two years ago and have been together for eighteen years which I didn't realize like in reggae Eh. eglesias and on a Cornucopia have been together for eighteen years who that's a long time especially for celebrities. Liberties Ola magazine got the exclusive on this one. After they obtained recent Paparazzi photos of a clearly pregnant ANA on a yacht within reggae. Ola Magazine wrote quote Larry Hatorah via no I confer model land not tsia Larry Vista manner. They say or lifespan. Publico photos as clue visas their content. They ex any stem interest. This route oven. They wouldn't say you any update less Muhima blend pleurisy. Solis and quote wrote sorry to flex ways. Panish that in English means quote. They are still to officially confirm the news Olot. Spain have published exclusive pictures of the pop star and his partners spending a day on their yacht. The images speak for themselves and quote in the picture on according to Cova looks pregnant. Hey Hey congrats to honor Cordova and in reggae Iglesias and Hey congrats to Ola magazine for nabbing that Papa Razzi Pig Felici that it is you can tell. It's kind of slow celebrity news day when Healy Bieber's as crooked Pinky is one of the top stories. But Hey that's just the the world we're living in and today we have to talk about Hailey Bieber's crooked pinky because guess what she's finally breaking her silence about in an instagram story. Haley cleared up the speculation. About why her. pinky looks crooked by revealing quote. I have this thing called. XTRA DOT Tilly and it causes my pinky fingers to look the way they do. She added quote. It's genetic I've had it. My whole live end quote. She then included a screen. Shot about the genetic anomaly that described the condition as quote. CLEFT hand is a rare congenital present at birth hand in all molly. This condition has been known by several other names such as extra Split hand and lobster claw hand today most prefer to use the term cleft hand and quote. So there you have it. Haley Bieber also known as Haley Baldwin by the way has electro DAK tilly. She concluded included her post by saying quote so in conclusion please stop roasting me about my pinky fingers. And if your loving all the Jennifer Aniston and Brad Pitt content as of late you can think Courtney Cox for reuniting the uniting the X.'s. And ushering their new era of friendship. According to the sun a source said quote last week Courtney was liking loads of comments on on social media. Related to Brad and Jen still being in love. And Courtney would love nothing more than to see her best friend reunite with the man. She's never stopped loving after after all it was in many ways. Because of Courtney that they reunited she is the reason they started speaking again after their split and quote the sun is reporting reporting. That Courtney Cox is the one who gave Brad Pitt. Jen's new phone number and encouraged the actor to texture and reconcile. I've gotta give a a big shoutout to comments by CELEBS for doing a lot of groundwork here in their initial discovery. That Courtney Cox had liked a photo that he news posted of Brad and Jen at the Sagamore on instagram. Courtney also liked a tweet that said quote they still love each other. No doubt and quote. I weirdly believe this like am I falling for fake tabloid garbage or or. Is this true. Like I kind of genuinely believe that Courtney Cox is pushing for Brad and Jen to get back together like romantically. I mean come on. She's only human like she's a human being a if you have a pulse you want Brad and Jen to get back together. That's the definition condition of being a human being. That is alive. Am I wrong am I wrong. Prove me wrong name. One human being who doesn't want Brad and Jen to get back together I bet even Angelina Jolie wants it okay. Maybe I'm wrong. Actually I have no idea what Anjiang. That's it for today's episode of celebrities ride home. Thank you so much for listening. I've been in Kate Raft. You can follow me at Kate raft everywhere. Hey follow the show. We're at CELEB- ride home on instagram and twitter. I'm going to post awesome pictures on the shows instagram. Today I'm doing full-size pictures in the INSTAGRAM's stories and I'm GonNa do kind of a collage for Ya in the grid. Thanks to ride home media and my co producer and engineer Jack. Allison leave us a review on apple podcasts. If you like like the show I mean don't leave batter views. That's weapons. She knew I mean why. Why okay that's all? I'll see you tomorrow for an all new brand new celeb- news right uh-huh.

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 Trusting in a GoFundMe world: Chips with Everything podcast

Chips with Everything

20:39 min | 2 years ago

Trusting in a GoFundMe world: Chips with Everything podcast

"The. The garden. It is the end of the summer two thousand fourteen I started to feel really tired for no good reason. And I was getting bit fat round the middle and appetite was sort of falling away a bit. So nothing kind of made sense. I think the thing that really made me realize something was wrong with the I was paying overtime. This is Emma halston an art director living in London. She was first diagnosed with cancer in two thousand fourteen I'm quite an optimist, and I know quite about cancer survival rates of much better these days. So my initial thought was a K doesn't mean you're definitely gonna die. But then she told me that it was this type of cancer that was very and had very poor prognosis Emma was told she had small cell carcinoma of the ovary, hyper calcemic type which is not only extremely rare, but has no standard treatments. I tried not scuba it for awhile. But then when I did it was it was literally the most awful moment of my life. Find out sort of results of other patients had gone through. So I realized as against quite challenge. The original tumor was removed through surgery and Emma, then went through six months of chemotherapy at the end of this treatment. There was no sign of the disease will there. She was delighted hit that news. Emma, had also been told that was a strong possibility of the cancer returning it grows, very fast. So at one point we really tracking growing about sent me to a week. We're keeping an eye on things every three months we'd go back in for scans. But because it's such a fast growing cancer. And I was still a camp the signs as well. It kind of grew back quite quickly inbetween scans. So we missed it until I went in. At the point when the tomb agree back. Emma, had a busy career and she and her partner Matt were in the middle of planning their wedding. Doctors told her that the treatment used the last time wasn't an option again on though is to me a drug trial Amina therapy, which seems to be the right sort of things to do. And this drug Troy was valuable in my hospital. So it's amazing free. But it was an experiment. Ceo. You'll starting a drug the Reno due to you bye gave that go. And after only a few weeks, it was causing terrible side effects and clearly not working for me. So we were forced into the situation of giving him in therapy guy. Immunotherapy is covered by the NHS for a number of cancers such as some lung cancers melanoma, but not Amazon because of its rarity. So I was cool in this conundrum of being a reckon. Sir. Weddings on really license. So there's not a standard treatment for them. So I have to pay for it. The cost of meaner therapy. Treatment is extremely high with the administration costs as well. We worked out about one hundred and fourteen thousand a year, and at that point somebody it sort of told us that if it was successful. I might be on that treatment for years. On top of feeling physically. Unwell Emma now needed to find a way to raise hundreds of thousands of pounds. I think being British you hate asking for money. I'm not something ever us money all wants to borrow money from people by realized it was such an amount of money that even with all my savings and everything combined probably wouldn't have to carry on paying the drug. So it just so happens coincide with a wedding. And people started saying, what do you want as wedding present? And we have like, oh, we'll really need some money. So a few friends started coming up with ideas of fundraising since we start thinking if we put together a fund may Cy aura sort of fundraising site, and we all these things in one place, and it would be make it easy for people m wrote up her story to explain why this campaign was so important, and why any donation would help ease stresses we were in a really tough spot at that point. And I remember going. Hospital and having really difficult conversations with doctors. And then we we happen to check one of those days and the favorite jumped right up to an amount of money that was gonna make such a huge difference to us more than twelve thousand people donated two hundred sixty three thousand pounds Amazon campaign, something she still can't quite get ahead around even two years into remission. And also, I think because all those people are so willing you on it's like such goodwill and such positive wishes for you. I think so gave me rule boost mentally which I think help physically and Emma's experience with gofundme me isn't rare. We've heard more than five billion dollars donated over the years to go from campaigns more than fifty million donors, and it's safe to say that we have tens of millions of people who donate to campaigns on an annual basis crowdfunding platforms like fund me have shown just how generous people can be to complete strangers. But it raises the question just how do people on these online platforms managed to gain our trust? I'm Jordan Erika Weber, and this is chips with everything. Online crowdfunding. I started appearing around the turn of the millennium with big crowd funding websites. Like indigo kick starter. And go fund me launching at the end of the last decade. Artists. Amuses have used these platforms together funds for book or an album people like Emma have raised money for medical treatments almost anyone can use these sites and not a way for something so wholesome when the English far right activists told me Robinson was jailed in may twenty thousand nine a contempt of court some of his followers used crowdfunding platforms to try to raise money to freed him. He was released on Vail in August. Twentieth. Teen and released from that bail in November. But it's not known if any of the money raised contributed to his release. So where do these websites come from? I'm rob Solomon. And I am the CEO at go fund me gay fund me is one of the biggest crowd funding platforms out there. It was created by Brad damn house and Andrew Balassa back in twenty ten. Producer Danielle rang robe at the company Silicon Valley offices in California, and he told her more about its inception. Wanted to come up with a way for immediate friends family local communities to come together to help pay for things and it didn't have an express purpose in in solving healthcare funding or or emergency related funding. It just took on a life of its own overtime. But they were just very keen on creating friction list platform that help people raise money when other people needed help quick quickly. Exactly k fund me can currently be used to stop campaigns in nineteen countries. But the company has recorded donations coming in from more than one hundred fifty countries people create campaigns for all sorts of reasons. The biggest categories are people who need help with medical related expenses. Then comes emergencies things like floods and wildfires. Unexpected emergencies memorials would be the third largest category. And. Then it breaks off into many different things. So education is is a big category. Where I need help to pay for my college education. I've been accepted into a study abroad program, but I can't afford to get their education is big one community related projects are very big things related to new story that brought to lots of people to the website was the partial government shutdown in the United States in January two thousand nineteen which left eight hundred thousand federal workers without work for more than a month. You're the government does a great example of that. We've had more than fifteen hundred campaign started on the platform more than half a million dollars raised already. And then we have this non of moments out there that become movement so early in twenty eight teen the times up movement kicked off with the award season in Hollywood. And and some of the most powerful woman women in Hollywood created times movement, and it became the largest campaign. We've had on our platforms over twenty two million dollars. And it's still an. Campaign and we see people donating a year later everyday to the campaign so moments become movements. And that's really interesting phenomenon. That's just getting started in last year or so. Of course, go fund me needs to make its own money to Emma told us that when she set a perk on pain, go fund me to percentage as payment. But last year, they changed their business model the old business model, we would take a five percent fee from the campaigns that ran on the platform, and we started to think a lot about you know, what is the best thing we can do for the campaign organizers, and these are folks who are raising money in very desperate situations. And we switched the model to a free model where all of the money raised goes to the campaign organizer and we asked donors for voluntary tip during the checkout process. And of course, on top of that is a credit card processing fee, but you buy large all the money goes to the campaign organizer, minus credit card processing fee fund me has also started looking at ways to make the website more trustworthy. We've seen new stories about people making up stories to elicit sympathy and raise money for a bogus. Pain. So although it's foolproof the company has been working on it security strategy. We aren't the arbiter of whether it causes good 'cause are worthy caused that's up to the communities of people who come together around these causes. So what we do is. We have a trust and safety team. We have something called the gofundme guarantee. We have a lot of. Tools in place to evaluate campaigns. We use machine learning artificial intelligence, we use a lot of technology to vet campaigns will look at the body language of of a campaign, and we'll use our machine learning and a I techniques to figure out what might be the purpose of this campaign. We wanna make sure that if somebody says they're raising money for someone else that in fact, we know who that other person is so we have a lot of safeguards in place to protect people that we've gotten really good at using a combination of technology process and people to these campaigns to see if any of these campaigns are violating our terms of service if they are violating the terms of service, they're removed. We also have this community. That's fifty million people strong, perhaps even more than that who let us know if something doesn't look, right. So there's a lot going on behind the scenes to keep the platform safe. At the essence of what's most important. Go fund me is is trust. Let's talk about trust. When I first started spending a lot of time online as child around the turn of the century. I was told to be careful who I spoke to and what infomation I gave them. So how have we ended up feeling confident enough to give money to complete strangers online through these images through these stories that people also share these crowdfunding platforms people become very close. And also, essentially very trusting off these people, even though they don't essentially, no that person more on that. After this short break. I'm leland. And in this month, we need to talk about pocus out panel respond to Godley supposed to questions on education. How can countries around the will take the politics out of their education systems? How can we grow in Cape? How teaches and give them greater ownership of their profession. And with the creative arts being sidelined in the curriculum. How can we poll wellbeing in schools? That's we need to talk about education have listen head. Visit guardian dot com slash costs. Welcome back to chips with everything. I'm Jordan Erika Weber this week. We're looking at crowdfunding platforms and how the people who used them to raise money are able to gain our trust. I'm not really sure if we trust people more online. I don't think there is actually a change. But I mean, we do trust people, and we do trust people depending on how to present themselves stoke to kunia Raza Kosta is electric in digital methods in digital humanities at King's College London. So online you will see that loads of people. The upload pictures of themselves upload videos, and that gives us an opportunity as an audience to God that a lot of information about these people. So you're this paper and 2016 about getting data on social relationships. An in it Ye wrote online forms of social interaction require a new understanding of an ext. Tended and disembodied sociology. Can you explain what you meant? What I meant. So traditionally when we talk about social relationships, we think of the relationship, I have let's my mother was my best friends, and what we see with this relationships the all have narrative. Yeah. So do you have all formed over time? We note he's people for a long time. We probably talked to them quite frequently. And we also liked him very much. So this is our traditional understanding of how we create relationships and naturally what we do consider usually as conducive to forming. These relationships is sort of like shared social space. So we meet with somebody in a cafe, we I don't know have dinner together online does this different because we don't share a physical space. But that doesn't mean that we do not establish intimacy with people the successive online fundraising campaigns raises. The question of whether our concept of a social relationship has changed. I don't think it has changed as such. I think people Wendy speak off their best friends of the people. They are very close to. I think nowadays still people think a lot about a very small number of people those people that are most important to them. And usually they will have also known these people for quite a long time. But what we also see a set people maintain more relationships at are fleeting. Typically, when you ask a person, how many friends do you have day would mention a small number of friends? But when you say how many I mean, that's also the tricky bit. How do you ask somebody how many people do, you know online? Most people will give your number. But that doesn't mean to those people are friends those people are there to catch up with. So it has become a lot easier through these online tools to contact and get in touch with these people and then. Can get out of touch with these people again, but it's not considered a problem. But when we speak about traditional close intimate social relationships, I think how people think about these types of relations that remains still very much same. Earlier in the show. We heard from real Solomon the CEO of go fund me he says one of the most surprising phenomena to rise from the website is moment to movement Cornelia explains. Why these movements able to gain much traction not only on websites like refund me, but on social media in general, it is definitely easier especially when it's about verse specific events. So if we say, we have we organized rally or a protest today to support women's rights or to support specific social group because Dan, you can communicate to a vast number of people that may be followed at hashtag metoo and informed him about with happening. So it's become a lot easier to reach out to a large number of individuals to keep them posted about what's going on at the beginning of the show. We heard from Emma halston more than twelve thousand people donate. Added to campaign raising two hundred sixty three thousand pounds the concentrate -ment say let's compare that to something like homelessness for say, we don't know whether those people who Des need to campaign would give money to people on the street. But I feel like we can know that that isn't a single person out there sleeping on the street who has managed to raise two hundred sixty three thousand pounds. So why is it the own line campaigns? Where the beneficiary isn't there right in front of you raise more money than real life human being on the street. I would say that these people who start gofundme campaign like Emma, for example, day are not perceived stranger by all these people who decided to to donate to her campaign because through her sharing her story through her updates on her condition sharing a little bit of context of how how it even happened. How she was diagnosed all. All these gave people in tune ity to form sort of like intimate bond with her through these images through the stories that people also share these crowdfunding platforms people become very close. And also, essentially very trusting off these people, even though they don't essentially, no that person I wonder if there's something in a comparison to ghosting, for instance, you talk about how it's it's much easier to break off relationships that you foam on line because you can just you know, you just not replace them message, and you never bump into them. Maybe that's a similar thing with crowdfunding with someone online who you you're never going to meet you can just donate the money and then forget about them. But if it's a person on the street that you won't pasta every day. Maybe you give them ten pounds. But then you see them again the next day. Do you think that contributes? So sometimes when we see a person in real life. We feel a certain obligation, especially when we see that person again to kind of maybe. Asked him how you doing today? So all these are forms of investments relational investments that maybe not everybody is prepared to give. And you're right online. All that's not the case. I donate my money. I can feel good about myself. And I have essentially done a good deed. Yeah. I've helped person who's obviously in need of support. So I can feel good about myself. But I don't necessarily have to invest a huge amount of relational energy and further sustaining that bond with that particular person. Do you think crowdfunding platforms remain popular in two very popular? We will see many people amateurs who produce content who develop products who maybe have an idea, but lack financial capital to maybe get ideas started. They will all go to crafting platforms to ask the people who share a similar interest for help. And we will see that happening more and more in the future. That's all for this week huge. Thanks to Emma, halston, robe, Solomon, and Cornelia razor Costa for talking to us this week. From next week. You'll find us in your pocus feed on Monday, which means if you're listening to this episode on the day it came out, and you only have to wait three days for the next one. So to brighten up the start of your week, make sure to listen to the latest digital coacher news on Monday mornings from now on and thanks to guardian jokes which spokes at this week's episode of chips got in jobs can help you. Find your good company at G. You dot com slash good company. I'm Eric Webber. Thanks for listening. For movement put costs from the guardian. Just go to the guardian dot com slash put costs.

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 Growing up with gangs, poverty and knife crime: a look back

Today in Focus

29:57 min | 1 year ago

Growing up with gangs, poverty and knife crime: a look back

"Christmas where revisiting. Some of our favorite today InFocus stories. We spent four months at the beginning of the year following early on an I.. Anna as their beloved youth club the ball. I was demolished and squeezed into a much smaller space. We're incredibly proud of this episode and it got nominated waited for British journalism award. Do make sure you listen until the end of the episode where will have from faith young people about what has happened since Thoughts on these. This is the center South Acton Five. PM just off the school. Suddenly the atmosphere feels really tents chance. Go inside gang. Members from Tottenham about fifty miles across London have been spotted in the area and they've got violent rivalry going over some of the people you can hand now weighing up to react. One boy wanted to chase another guy told him not to. So it's so easy to see how the two groups could miscalculate here and something could happen in the one of the guys said Noah. Nobody's going to weapons. They were unarmed. The reason for that was they were at the Youth Club and they were allowed to have weapons so instead of giving chase ending up in a confrontation could let someone being stabbed. Just calm down a bit back into the baller and something that had the potential to be tragic had been averted Brooke Center in South Acton is in an area of massive inequality entrenched gang violence a knife life crime Leon and Ianna he were eighteen have been going matthews. Is there episode from the Guardian. I'm each Gristana today. In focus the shrinking of the Ballo Youth Club. They say rob a the social affairs. Correspondent et Guardian. You and Josh Kelly one of our producers here on today InFocus have. I've been going to the ballet for the last four months. How did you end up there? Back in November. I've been following the UN special reporter on Extreme Poverty Philip Halston on his tour around the UK that was the one where we spoke about millions of children in the country being locked into a cycle of poverty from which most will have great difficulty escaping and he talked about poverty in the UK being a deliberate political choice and there was one meeting on his toilet. Really stuck out for me. A group of young people from Westland about housing and custody services. What would you what would an ideal you send look? We want to know what they wanted to a youth center and their answer was quite surprising. I simply said they wanted space. They were first about the wait. Look to what the facilities where they just one of the place that wasn't at home which might be overcrowded wasn't school it wasn't on the street denny. Any also them any of you actually live in an area where youth center has been close to has cut back dramatically. Yeah and a big group of people showed the our youth centers getting moved and Trunk De Angry about. There's a girl called Diana who was basically screaming olsten begging him to tell the government ministers not to cut the use back. There you censor so these young people were from the Bali you central and south accident which is run by calling Brent. who were thrilling council? At at the moment that they would talk to Allston. They're in the process of moving. The council decided that the site that they'd been in for years should be knocked down to make way for some new apartments. It's a huge regeneration of postwar counselor state that since factor they were going to get a new but much smaller sites about half the size of Thera existing you censor and it was going to the bottom floor of a new apartment block built just around the corner so I went to a few of them off to. It's an awesome if we could follow them around for a little while while they moved here that you may and who've been with over this time where we're in Salt Act. Two minute wallow follow. You said this is the final days of this low building here. We've changed his name actually because he asked us to. The first person I met he'll show Josh around. I'm lightest the kitchen. Sometimes it's most other net buddies. Let's put some rich and then leave and smoking over there. Get food dust. No no no no. You'RE GONNA be outside in it Of Some fucking around here. That's not gonNA involve us because we're on at all so we keep Ed Stephan that's the thing A lot of people call tonight. What you still in? That's right and I have listened to kill us. Be An amid. It's not just bend your back in on these get winded on breath and say what was the main this place who live bro. You see below you know saying it's fucking perfect. Yeah there's people that smoke weed outside then yeah light light. Once once in a blue moon you'll see saw in my TACO army. Yeah but it's like cool fam- join us. This is the longtime game is. When you go I it's just ping pong and then it then it becomes something else your friends and you have discussing? Then you start moving onto Latin. When light your age eighteen to call in about issues? They try finding jobs. They'll help support. You Know Dull Jami is a place so he can vent your mental frustration. Follow is a safe haven for law people in place on a lovely lovely. I love listen. We met Leeann again on the freezing cold night in January and the first place that he took us to resist salt secret spot that he used to go when he was younger. Actually go on to the top floor of one of the tallest old council towers in the area and anybody knows about it can just get up there. Ah these days you've got. Wow this this things in south acton that you can we'll never get to see because I'll never come to this book and you get to see shit like this is is my Salah so for the top has an incredible view. You could see most of London's London borough right across in. The foreground was Westfield the biggest shopping center in Europe Europe. Just down the road. Then just over the railway tracks Chizik where the average house prices about nine hundred thousand pounds a now this area where we Seems to be changing to the council blow with surrounded by smart new apartment blocks of a springing up around it. You see you see those those towels up there. So those buildings those were like the shittiest blocks in south acton in it but not down the ones down there by volatility new but these are like the first books to go up when Safa did you call it. Yeah gentrify identify who identify the not lie. Everyone's thinking raw diesel. Nice people are excited about. I don't think they're going to start raising the rented. And then you're gonNA have to fuck you move out and find some and then I mean if they want they just want it to build more housing for for people who need to counsel how they would keep these blocks and just try to. I mean what what not down to raise the prices so it looks more interesting to invest. So they can change this area to north instead of instead of Acton the basically a story for every street corner is we. Didn't it Salat Corner right there. I saw someone that I knew. Fly for years yeah. Someone carved their initials into his face because he was short short in his life drugs he liked literally call broad daylight in in front of carved an s an eye into his face US SORTA now. So let's go bro. It was took his they. They told him. Take your child's down out there in his boxers club. This how fifteen sixteen I was like I was like twelve. Eleven time minute. So they used to be a gang here cooed. MVP in it. Yeah and they used to be blue in you could wear red around here. Li- Li- role. I remember my mom. Try Get me to wear a red top around here. I Bro. I was literally bullying my is trying to say no. I'm not I'm not doing. I'm doing it because if I were tough round headlights on. Who's going to clapping broiler? La La la La. I didn't tell my mom that I just kept kept on ten. I'm just not going to do in it. Why didn't you tell you don't want to lower unit? Mums malign like they've already they already have enough on their plate. You don't add and this is from young. You know you not to worry your mom even like because what can she do your living in the area. Yeah Yeah Jami. He's calling me out. I mean you get used to when you when because you see it from young and you see violence from young mean so you so you kinda get desensitized suet free people in my life and it. Yeah and Li- Li- let's not a lot compared to a lot of people. I'm interested interested by the fact that people around you guys you often on the fringes of of gangs if not in them and that is quite a difficult place to be you. Can you talk about in that sense of kind of the danger of being sucked into or the pressure of you know. Yeah because because for a long time the the gunman was allowed the cool ones so so a lot of kids a lot of kids who don't have that stability at home go to that literally as as a family together I mean you know. Does this how how society is built for all working class people. They don't have father figures they don't or they have drug addicted parents. I mean it's about trenched it's entrenched in it problem. This quote shooting is is privacy. Now we go live with now it is no solving it. What does it come from will cause it comes from poverty? Lack of education comes from comes from Alaska stability in the homes. That comes from a lot of things. That's just how life isn't it because when you off when when you're when you haven't got nothing really liked that line lie you and you see that's the thing Chizik is right over there right on edge raw. We'll we'll have to go so good down there smart like you see them drive impossible to Bentley's you see them. They get on the same buses used to go home and and from school in new allow raw. These don't have the problems. I have these little going home. He's fucking having a full arming diesel. Infant an all credit some light light role. She Fed me whenever she could get the sometimes. Where does that she just know them? Food and sometimes there's no. I mean you go away wakeup a freezing cold Georgia before school. You gotta you gotTa get a Pan you fill out with cold war go here up wait fifteen not minutes imagine you can. You can bring a lot of fill the war and it's not gonNA fill up your boss. Did you still an still cold as hell addition today it's shit you don't feel like learning on this is this is the call the phone and you're not going to want to learn if you gotta wake up fifteen minutes earlier than the next man. Yeah to to heat up fuck imports so you can take a bath and I don't know what you can do to fix that. I have no fucking include because that is some systemic poverty describing Experience Underpins the news when we hear about stoppings and killings and drug gangs. That you don't hear about you don't hear about why it happens. You don't hear about you you just think. Oh these these kids just going out in San Benito but mostly it's mostly portrayed as Blackie and Tagami. I can't speak for every area but area that I'm in is not just blacklist that dude so the ball has been an important part of your lives. you called a safe haven. But now it's being moved moved made much smaller. How's that going to affect? Things comes less than that because if if that's the place yeah that was Hannah China people safe haven and your shrink did squeezing it on how to benefit anyone Tagami fro. I don't know it just seems so counter. Intuitive that's why you need people from communities dot to represent Del Community Tagami. I'm not saying Oh you can't you can't represent all community. You don't always go where I'm seeing. You don't know what's going on it the same way. I don't know what's going on in your neighborhood like the same way. I don't know about the Chelsea Chelsea Garden Festival and the issues that brings up. You don't know about game violence issues it brings up here to go. I mean how you know. You have to look over your shoulder every time. Let me see a pedal you don't know about this and I don't even smoke weed. Tagami bomb paranoid twenty fours when I'm looking at two. Tell me a little bit more about the Bowler. Who's running regard runs? It's Golic will call him. Brent is youth worker originally from Bristol Bay. He spent about ten years in London. Everyone seems to love. Him is a very thoughtful approachable category. I it really is game frightens. I mean take for example around here. We've got the third set gang. Who none of them are really from south accent that they represent South Acton? Live here in Shepherd's Bush you have twelve anti who currently beef in Northampton Eastern this jobs about crime in this area. They'll took up this time. Then you got that means. He's completely immersed in the latest situations between different Guy Nelson. You know. It's a really difficult position position where actually increasing the young people quite mobile in some respects. Don't even know who site that supposed to be on anymore. Collins usually finds out about beef before the police also techniques to try and defuse tensions when violence looks possible two times that's just reassuring people when they'd be made to look foolish on snapchat or instagram. Sometimes persuaded friends to convince other friends. Not to retaliate. Calling those out out to get messages out to where the gangs in other areas of London to say personnel. He doesn't like the beef to go any further with person. B and that could deescalate the situation. Suppose it's full of diplomacy really be says the most important thing simply for the youth center to be there just to exist now. Young people people we work with really want to be gained. That's not no one wakes up and says you know what I WANNA do. I WanNa say if my life the vast majority of them want to get out. I don't know how and know what there is for them to get out to answer. They get involved in drugs and they get involved in gangs involved in alternative systems of power. Aw whether they can be powerful. So that's kind of chaos that people young people live within and we try to be alongside them in chaos. This is a place where reality can cut through it right. Yeah I mean here. We kind of we know individuals we know we know that we know. WHOA WHOA that living conditions are we know you know says this identity of the you know the gang member who's powerful kind of person that may be someone else else? You'd never met them. We'll look up to it's cool and we know that you that maybe they go home. They sleep on a mattress on the floor in shed accommodation And so oh and they know that we know that and they know that if they want to they can come and they can break down on us because the stress actually on them is immense for some people will hang is not a place where they I want to be. These are not teenagers. Who can slam the door in there in that parents face and stay in that bedroom? You know teenagers doing that bedroom. Because they don't have a bedroom they sleep on the sofa in the living room. There happened to fight and hustle to survive together in the same space and that necessarily puts hello strain on people's relationships out on so this ANA also by the way not her real name this idea of overcrowding and a lack of space law and behind the other problems Colin has been talking about something that she is lived out. Choose the Assad the episode who shot seeing it for the polston about the Ballo. Being shrunken down. She's good friends ends with their own and they were hanging out wishing TV when she invited US rancher her home small single bedroom at the Ymca the kind of place where people who find themselves. This can live. I sort of my mom's house at the time I was Mom Milo Bravo and my ex-boyfriend me that's four people in a two bedroom flat. My mom was in uni so she would wanna stay in the Living Room on the SOFA and do Iraq or not and she'd sleep on a so far tied the next morning but then there's people getting up in the night go into get food from the kitchen and it's all linked so you'll get an on each other's nerves continuously. It was getting too much for her. Because mom's got like the fresher and Asaf the relationship. It broke down so a one Africa's came back home and like my clothes. Were like all in the room coming up to like so. They're not just packed and left lot. She she played sold out onto the floor last the whole room which is filled with close. I just acing. After a mum cater out she realized she was homeless. She went to the council but she says they couldn't help her. They was literally like okay. Well when I went into your pregnant you don't have a child already. You're not disabled. So Oh you're not a priority. I slept on buses then. I was at my friend's house and then obviously you know you can't really do that too long. I was still trying to help myself. I was Trans View. INS trying to get a tendency agreement. Try to take it to the Jobson and get like a normal flat but it's not that easy easy you don't have a reference you're eighteen they need first month's rent under Pussy Upfront. I used to walk around with like okay. Got About twenty bags of clothes. I felt hopeless lap around the the other night and looking at all the new development element that's going on there and this tons and tons of housing being built around there and yet you've had this so awful struggle in recent months us us. It's not for us. That's stuff that has not for us to be seen. How how do you think they'll ever give me housing there so when you look the what's going on around the with the follow and those that housing what do you think you have space at home cool you got up to baller by then look what happened in there? Now they're trying to cut off the making you've clubs smaller so then you face at home you don't base there where you're gonNA tend you're going to go and try find some type of like you're GonNa find out you belong outside on the street right and that's why people have strong ties to dad ends to like the area because that's where he grew up on on the streets so that's why you'll find all of these lot fighting over it it because their friends that Bros. the family basically it substitutes. If you don't have something like that home you go out and you find among your friends right so then you're willing to fight for it right for for for an area that your mom doesn't even literally own housing so it's full months off the Allston meeting and it's the first day of the New College Ion Leon method to show us around. So what was it like much smaller than the original below which is a big spacious series spaces where you could kick a football around. This was inserted into the bottom of a new apartment block. It didn't seem like it was designed originally to be center so there were several different rooms. That was a big staircase. took up a lot of the space and there were strange design it features like a balcony. You couldn't even get to. I think the kids felt like they were getting something new and fresh. And they're quite excited about it but when they were looking at it they were puzzled. The bout how operate didn't fill out the same sort of home that had of the Bali. About what do you make this new place I spits more in stone asked life. It's not bad you see in the twitter smart to in the West mood toilets. All my as I can because he tweeted the Beth. I'm sure that actually that's not see fucking fucking by on new the mental families. I'm not at the medicine. Oh God Chretien's that's kind of a bit white goal besides burn up a place to run around. Yeah we don't even have like a wonderful. It's a wonderful life. Nothing like that will remind you can talk to people all you need to see that. I don't have the old bull caller this half the size. Does that matter to you in terms of what you can do. Yeah we will try to make it work. We'll try to make this. Having what we want is is the same volume of young people coming free middle caught wide. The Y you could throw you better and this is a narrow net and this is kind of a trite thing to say the Youth Club thing you know she's think Oh here we go clubs and youth clubs are going to stop. All the prompts actually actually have been kind of investigate this with you guys. It seems to me the US exactly what we do need and and we need it it needs to be invested in. We all work often with young people who are incredibly vulnerable and we have to have space have space to work with them. You know physical to answer your space. Looks lovely. But we'll be challenges. You remember when you spoke to Philip poster thing. Thank you said to him that you've already excited about the fact that he was GonNa take what you guys told him until the Government Minister Bouncer. Anyway I'll do my best and I think you'll read about in the in the full months old. Your here in the office is the one era before and you'll still in the YMCA Does anything change since she met him. Obviously he did raise it and food he found a very good job of portraying every that we did put full to him like in his report because I Subaru Buffalo lack this taken the same approach as they did. The government has tried to watch something under the carpet. Nothing's going to get sold really. That does not moving forward like I said I said before. That's why people join gangs the things because they felt that opinion doesn't really matter that much. Nothing's really get a change. So I find that sense of belonging in the streets instead of what he should feel kind of like they belong. Listen Twenty Four House. After we left we heard the I-IPAD san the seventeen year old who attended the youth up had been stopped. Death and Wisconsin. How sound was so slight? He was nicknamed his family said that he wants to be a barrister the last week. Fifteen year old boy was charged with his murder. The Guardian contacted Ealing Council. He who said that. The councils government funding have been cut by sixty four percent. They said the youth service budget had fallen for more than one point. Eight million to under eight hundred thousand feeling is committed to ensuring provision is in place for young people by added but this loss of funding has meant that difficult decisions had to be taken and with three part time centers being forced to close we remain committed to providing you services and have three full time youth centers one of which is on this estate. So you can read all of his reporting at the Guardian Dot Com coming up. What's happened at the ballet since the move Now since the follow moved achieved. I'm afraid to say things haven't been great particularly relations with some of the neighbors in the brand new luxury. Housing above residents have signed a petition calling for the a youth club to be thrown out to turn the space into a tumble Dryer Facility for residents a private library or a coffee shop. Josh and rob have been going back to South Acton ten following the story with Anna and Leon and we'll bring you a full episode early in the New Year but for now here they are talking about what they're doing for Christmas Ninety whatever ball is Dan for Christmas. I'm Dan for Christmas because I'm learned for Christmas in it. And hopefully if these of that petition position of it sounds like Turkey over the. That'll be good though. It's like dressed up as Santa Rosa. Think that'd be fun. Will you more life in it more life. Just wish wish to prosper my friends. Recently I've ever want to achieve in two thousand twenty. You didn't do. This is make like a list today. At least maybe sometimes free today. The top of the list. You'd be shocked actually. Two Thousand Twenty. I want to be happy. That's what I want to do. Any of started making music now like properly and lack back. I'M GONNA take it serious. I'm trying to do that. I'm going to have a spotify by the end of two thousand twenty and a music video and and I will have passed my level three and interior design an architecture. Yeah it's like when people used to ask me. Would you WANNA be when you're the older when I was younger and I want to be content with have which I am some really proud of myself for that people can get get caught up in the bitterness of not having much Badeah even you just have to have faith. They will get better and it will get bar and negative. It doesn't really really bring morty so you should just always try to stay positive and keep going forward going to a that. Was Leon an Eye Anna. Thanks so much once again to them. We'll oh hear more from them in the coming months. Thanks also to column Brandt and Robbie they step aside was produced by Josh Kelley. Sound design was by Axel Kukuchi. The update was mixed by Ian Chambers and the executive producers on the Coal Jackson and Phil may not. I hope you have a lovely Christmas. We're going to be back on the twenty seven

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The Forgiveness Episode with Ashley Austin Morris

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The Forgiveness Episode with Ashley Austin Morris

"The podcast one percents let Lisa help former insult comic lethal. Atlanta is now a full fledged coach and she wants to help you whether you like it or not. Join the former queen of as she contains her journey as the Queen of careening. She'll share her life. Experiences the tool she's learned along the way and a healthy dose of humor so if you have a problem let. Lisa help and now now here's your host Lisa Lamela. Hey lucile molly the former me now. I'm just full of love and meaning or or at least that's what I tell people welcome to let Lisa help today. I will be talking with my former friend. Slash former enemy slash former friend again Ashley Austin Morris and we tell all about our tale of hatred of each other and now forgiveness and love you gotta hear this because the S. gets real and never said that on the show so I'm actually telling the truth truth. Here's my interview and actually my full on conversation not just an interview with Ashley Austin Morris. You're listening to let LISA HELP WITH LISA LAMB belly pain every money at least lab an alley. I know you're thinking she's so too good to have a podcast but I'm not this is let Lisa help the podcast that you hate to love and love to hey and everything everything in between I help people or at least pretend to and I honestly so convincing as an actress that people believe me that I care in studio today. A this is a guest that I never thought would happen not that 'cause where boats so super famous and now there's a meeting of the minds I am going to call this episode the forgiveness episode because I have your people say they have frenemies yeah well. We weren't even frenemies. We were F- am an and lawyers like there were years further. We like freaking hated each other and what's funny is I said. Wouldn't it be great to have mine. We now new friend Ashley Austin Morris on after the lawsuit screaming in my apartment in the upper west side upper east side upper every side said this is fantastic because it shows that people don't need to hold onto resentment and he chose it takes two people especially especially the person who reaches out which would you and you can get past and at least forgive and it may lead to something good light yeah friendship or your podcast experience such as this yeah so well the Austin Morris. May I call you just Ashley. That's all I never. I thought I would ever have an intro light. I know what what's Great. Is I love this. I I get to do whatever I on. This and I want to show people how this can happen that yeah what are we won't we holding on holding onto not forgiving nothing yeah yeah and I think you're onto plays in around life yeah. It's they say resentment is holding on to its drinking poison and hoping hoping the other person is not going to happen now so I think we should go into our backstory. People how our enemy ship began. It was terrific it was it's really good. It was actually a great story. I should be a one person slash two person show on I really you. We should do like a moth where we both tell the story. That's actually trade idea. That'd be great. Well might as well do it yeah. Let's them off though because ruined make any money. They always like one hundred dollars ninety. Oh Yeah it's terrible. The what had happened was the way I meant Ashley. I went to see this. Nora and Delia Ephron show I love loss and what I wore yeah now. This Ashley was fantastic terrific actress. I said I like her now. At the time Julie Halston was online minded who I love. La and we went out to dinner afterward. West Bank very very good. You have a good memory and I felt very engaged with Ashley. Now I do realize what attracted me. PEOP- to people back then a lot of the times I felt like I could mother hen them to death and help them. You know it's crazy about you're saying that is is that our wounds totally fit each other yeah because I always want to be mothered right. Bright solar comes in Lisa like a mama bear ray going. I can help people in here. Comes Broken Wings Syndrome like Oh look. I'm buried fix me like like that. Also where I was what was really funny. Is I think I met you before my weight loss surgery yeah and you were probably at one of your thinnest this points yeah. I was one of my fats points so it almost like a had the visual of look I'm going to clean house and help you little bird yeah totally and of course all this again is on an unconscious level but I think it's worth saying to people recognize why you're attracted to certain friends early because you're both trying to fix each other or get I hope and it fits for maybe the wrong reasons at the moment so we start hanging out a little bit here and there I go to see the show again. I think you're terrific and I have this idea at a right. Show I sort of a vagina monologues about food and body image so I go yeah well Ashley in my head I go. She has food and body image stuff. She is really cool and probably subconsciously. I was like I can can help because then it's going to be money earn. She wouldn't have to be struggling actors anymore. It's like that's my job. Yay firkin agent right yeah so I call you. You come come to the upper west side. Yeah demand Jimmy big balls apartment. I was married at the time and we hung out and we thought this was a terrific idea but I also remember being like how did you know I had food and body image issues as I thought I I was eighty nine pounds like I think she's Oh oh you see me like you mean. I had no idea it was literally like I was just a clavicle and address. I had I had no idea I was like right. This is so bizarre that you would. I would know anything about that. So what's funny at the time. Did you really they. Were you not aware that people could read that about you. I had no idea right and were you at an anorexic point or not actively anorexic but you were just like super thin. I think I it's funny because I don't talk openly about like food issues or whatever but I I. I know I was very sick. I was very sick but I didn't know I listen when you start to get well. You're not just well then you realize you're sick and all this in your living in two worlds where you you know you're sick but you don't know how to be well at that point. I didn't even know I was sick. Oh so then then by the time we decided hey. Let's move forward and start writing this show. Did you start to realize you're sick or no. I started to realize the severity of my sickness cygnus and they started to realize I think through I would stay up all night and like right and I think I started to see he how healing writing wise and that's when you were writing stuff to contribute to the show yeah 'cause we decided we're going to write this show. It was going to be where you'll four. Women stood stood up there with different eating issues and talk about them. I was obviously going to write about being overweight and getting weight loss surgery. You're gonNA talk about Anorexia. Slash Bulimia on we're going to have another girl who who couldn't gain weight and other girl who's a big girl happy with herself so Ashley to sending me these incredible freaking essays and I was like who the F. Rights like this like this is so good because it was so ron real. I was like this is insanely phenomenal. That's okay and then you would be like Oh. I just wrote it. It's nothing and I'm like really like it. Just felt to me really good. Did you not feel like it had value at the time you know it's funny because I always wanted to. Maybe a writer I love writing but I always fell stupid. I mean I moved a lot as a kid. I never had an education. It was like if you went to a poor for school. It wasn't like Oh. Let's have special teachers. He was like make that kid sit in the hall and like Hang Hang. Out with the janitor until the class was over like I never I never learned and how to spell it. Remember you know you saw Ridicu- now that we're friends again like your grammar and spelling. It's the worst it's the worst and so I always felt stupid so it's it's like I. I can't just like email publisher something like that and like get work done because I can't. I have no grammar spelling so that really always stunted me so then and when you said you know it. Was it like even right now. It really touches my soul. It makes it makes me feel so good. You know because it's something I desperately. I really want it but I thought I could never but was hilarious about. It is the spelling punctuation. All that crap is so freaking easy to get somebody to fix what you people don't right right like you're right. That sounds like it's so different and unique and I'm like wow okay so you'd write me these things that were super jarring and great and deep and so at at that point is when you say you started to figure out oh. I'm having a bad problem here. Well I think I you know I had been to rehab instead at outpatient outpatient. Rehab until I knew that I had a pro and I think that was actually 'cause you know you brought up this idea and then I went to La for yes it and what we didn't start this right away. There was some there was some time in there so I think like when we first talked about it. I definitely didn't know other people could see I was sick and I kinda just was too out of it. You know myself you know happened so quickly. When you get really sick it happens too quickly for you to like understand what's happening and so then. I think I tried to go to lake some outpatient things and then that didn't work and as I was writing it was so healing healing and I think it was also just to be able to be honest with somebody and just like we would laugh about like we would laugh about this stuff and and for me that made I it took so much shame out it was like every time I would press send or you would read something or we would laugh about something. A layer of shame would get removed and then there would there could be space to start healing well and that was the hope with the show is that people would see it not feel the shame would be taken out go if she struggling with that and Lisa struggling with that other girls those struggles then there's no shame in nobody's alone anymore. I absolutely and I remember yet. We'd laugh so hard hard. I I think I said you won't point. If I eat something and nobody sees it. Does it really count like he would laugh at anything that goes using coffee doesn't count any and coffee mate that powder stuff and then I just I would travel with my coffee. May Remember that Almond Milk creamer that I will challenge challenge yeah you would have it for me or is also we were obsessed with Gum anorexic behaviors chewing gum holiday long and the thing is I was. I've never anorexic. Thank God because I think that's a far harder struggle and I but I you oh yeah I just because you could die and big people they can die. AL would take longer yea so I get that. They're both terrible but I always go. Oh my God like drinking is harder to quit than food. Oh I think I think foods harder within drinking. Isn't it interesting like maybe we all just downplay are are issued alcohol. You you just you can never touch it again right but food. GotTa take the tiger out like three times as head or whatever yeah drying up forty seven then. It really helps to keep your mouth acting. I WanNa you know what the weird thing is. We chewed so much. I now order cotton candy flavored sugarless Mentos Gum by the case every month that was on subscribing safe the bit so bad that I couldn't chew gum for three days. I had more feelings coming up. Because of course I'm not using my drug which is interesting happen if some through income. Nobody needs you like that yeah yeah. Sometimes I go. I actually can't have love these feelings. Come up like sometimes I really go like if I can't go beyond a mountain alone and like scream at things they are then I can't you need to give me gum or whatever else I'm well. Sometimes we need a little help and the you know what if your worst thing right now is gum. That's okay. I always think like blow that can't allow when the fires done you know like I put the fire out before we'll be. That's the whole thing that's why I got the weight. Loss surgery was like Okay Rita that start from square one. I get the emotion on track but I could not like myself with the way non and you know so. Many people get the surgery and don't do the emotional working day and any judgment whatsoever at all. I've nothing but empathy and sympathy for anyone. That feels the need to do that but if you don't you did you the emotional worker else you wouldn't have continued you too can keep the weight off. It's just it's really like the only thing that makes me. Keep it off. We're GONNA every day like you know. It doesn't stop and that's what led US okay so okay so here we are. We're writing this play. We're having a blast avin meetings with some producers some we don't like somewhere yet as who make wants want him how to raise the money ourselves and crazy stuff so it's fine and so of course in my need to fix you and in your or need to rebel against mom we start having arguments so I get that and I get that it was half my fault because I literally it'd be like why are you going on additions. Why are you going dishes like you've been auditioning for all this time and this is the key to your future like it's like saying to a child which you weren't go to college. Go to college go to college while it's none of my F- in business but then part of me is like it is my business because it's my platoon. I want you to be devoted to it. So I start getting all angry. Agree rain now of course the way to handle that is not the way I handled it and the way for you to handle it is not the way for you to handle so I'm like Oh. My God add like I'm constantly annoyed and I can't imagine you were that happy either way. So what do you think like what was the first big unraveling and the big big fight like me just going stop concentrating on anything else. Duke Bis because I really thought this was going to be something that would be like a vagina monologues and would last forever for and legacy and you know a something. That would be an inflow money for us even if we didn't have to be in it. So what do you think happened. I think for me first of all I can't have anybody telling me to let go of my dream that has carried me through awesome dark stuff yeah so acting has helped you live a life while and I wanted to be an actress since I was four right so for for me. That's between me and God right if God says if I feel God leading need you something else that's fine but I've had other people. Try to come into my life. You've and try to go. I will now be in charge of like what you are going to dedicate your time to you and for me I go will you weren't there when that saved my soul so this was highly triggering photo because because I thought I was going to end up at dairy queen you know working at a dairy and that's a reality totally which no offence against anyone that works at a dairy queen. It's delicious and also like your triceps probably looked great because you have to make sure that you have to like lift the frosty upside down and make sure it's thick enough to knock out like so that's a lot of risks every day. It's a blizzard. It's blizzard there. You go right frosty as you can. Tell you're not an over eater and I am. Wendy's is the problem. I don't know there's been some dark night in Salt Lake some Taco Bell Yeah. Here's the thing it's like. I think you know with no knowledge of reality no-one knowledge of how to act towards people. I was just like going in my head. It's going doesn't she see I'm trying to give her a stream of income that you have to work again and and you're so I think both our intentions were totally. Just don't WanNA act yeah because you you know what did it for me. One time is that I realized like Ah 'cause. I have a big resentment against rich people. I have even though I wanna be rich. It's like well. I resent myself so there's no conflict of interest there or like but because of money I have money issues and and I need that like I desperately want to get over that right right but I don't know how so I think like at that time. It was going wait. A second like I'm auditioning any opportunity. I can get. I'm doing stand ended up any opportunity I can get. I'm writing all night long on this thing I live so far out in Brooklyn and I'm going to your apartment every single time re me and sometimes that was like in a blizzard that would be whenever and I'd be waiting tables to where I was like. You cannot tell me like this isn't fair like I don't have any way you to breathe and I don't have enough money and I don't like it was so crushing to me now because I also was asking. I wasn't showing up as like in your peer. I was expecting you to save me well and I was buy into it right but wait. I then I wanNA. Do you know that's why this apology. We've gone through in the recent past works because we both know we were wrong. How Italy so it wasn't you going. I'm going to apologize but I know early doing the wrong. Outlook took and held up as a woman my relationships. I don't show up authentic in my relationships. The way I showed up in that relationship was Lisa is above me and while I actually think it's fine to think that in many ways I had so much to learn from you as a comic as a businesswoman as like a person who's like like I think if anyone's been on the planet a day longer than you. They have something infinite to teach you so. I think there's nothing wrong with this. Person Is can be a mentor. Yes there's nothing wrong with that but there is something wrong with going almost like a subconscious manipulation of going. This woman may give me what I need like and making taking you for me what needs to be God's position and I do that a law so yeah. I remember when you said let's have immense conversation or whatever and you said that I didn't in I understood it and I was like you. Don't do anything wrong and you're like yeah. I did this yeah yeah pudding people in that position. Just me putting you in the position of the little girl to take care of 'CAUSE I. My dog wasn't enough. You know what I mean like. Oh I don't have enough people to take care of. Also I add philly empty hole by saving someone I get to then saying yeah like even if it's not out loud I say to myself you did Godly so she has income and also you bought her to dresses totally right but but that's the way I but also like I walk through the world gaping asking other humans to step step in and I don't do it with words. I don't do it on purpose but I can feel it in me that I I a I attract people that WANNA a step in and save somebody and that story like hostage end and has it ended more more now that you're you're aware of that have used absolutely no turning it is hard to recognize united and then actually turn it away because I still fall under the this needs help that one New Zealand can I do what can I do. It's like you have to have let them have their journey which socks socks now for them and for me now because I'm like I can't Save the world even life coaching and all that stuff. It's like somebody writes to me. They sound horribly desperate bread and I want to rush in and on like that's not in the plan for me right now. This particular human this is let Lisa help with Lisa Lamp. Uh now back to let Lisa help with Lisa Lampe Meli point okay so the point being like we're kind of wrestling with every day you you're going crazy with your life. I'm crazy going. Why isn't she letting me help her hurt and I think that's helping which it's not we snap your first argument and the thing is greatest. I used to give view clothes and stuff yeah so I remember that day sell well. Oh I got I gave you I also I'd ordered you vitamins because worried about your help I ordered you some this bars and that farzin this protein shit that and but I paid for the vitamins and I was pissed now 'cause they couldn't afford it I did I did. I ask you for the money. Oh I was angry. I don't blame you because I'm sorry I mean I mean well. I think I was so worried for your health but still it's not then you just give them like that was really awful. Sorry about that. Oh it's terrible. I didn't knit forgive me but I'm terrible. Is that those like hi. I'm PAT like my friend. Vicki is on the four years before you're too hard on yourself. Let's talk talk about you. Drove me to a comedy club. I was scared to work out. You walked me and like I know everybody respected me from then on you. Let's like I did around allowed to have have a moment of like you know what I mean like. You did a lot of wonderful loving things to right and the funny thing was like even when I bought you stuff that I didn't charge you for I was always like why isn't you wearing that. Ya 'cause it's always like something attached like a little head and it's like what's wrong with me so of course the time. I think nothing's wrong with any of this. So what happens is you. You're in my apartment. I go dude. You didn't write anything or didn't read enough for my incredibly hard working standards and you are like whatever this and that and I forget exactly what was said. Do you remember anything I mean I. I knew that I had to go to work. I had to go waitress. Oh God and I do not sit and watch something on TV. So you remember what you said. What what did I say. Do you want me to say so. You would actually give him a sweater that day than I really wish. We hadn't had that fight because I loved well. That's what I was GonNa Laugh that she took it out of her bag before she stormed out and I'm like what am I going to give this to now. Do you know I gave it to my my my my knees eve and she loves zits oriented sweater it really was. I looked expensive more okay God. What did I say. You were just about the auditions yes. I couldn't be up all night writing if I had auditions in the morning and I think that's what I think. I think that's what your hard work because when I get hard core when I feel I'm not getting what I want. which is like this play to be written fast? I I get I go. That's why I always say thank God. I'm not using insult comedy anymore off stage because I could in in keeping my temper off stage now because I mean I know right where to get. Jack and I tried to use that power. I know you do to what did I say oh man. It was terrible but I'm kind of proud of myself. Wait to you said you go. It was basically just like you know you keep ongoing and these auditions today like your waitress. I've got no problem with waitresses. It destroyed me and that's when I said something about you could be doing yet. You're not getting any. It was something yeah about well. Good luck because you haven't gotten anything in nine months. Basically your waitress yea. It was like an in that tone Niane Niane gesture that nobody can totally yeah yeah and you were and you took that sweater out of that bag that you ge- bag with all that stuff in it was ever a win there but a lot of all night changes of clothes and make a life yeah through down. I guess is really over. If you the sweater down and so you left and then it was just like sort of like I think maybe a couple of back and forth tax and it was Yucky and Nikki and and then we're just like well. We're GONNA other anymore and isn't GonNa work out and then we're just like okay. How do we have this deal. Work attributed all these stories so and isn't that and lawyers that the other so I don't a lot of that's a blur yeah but you remember any of that part. I remember Earth thinking like you know I still get in this pattern but I remember thinking I was so hurt because of the story was so personal it was the thing that tried to kill me like yeah like people's food issues is so and for me literally like like IV's TV's like literally almost ended my life and so I was so devastated by that but I had also thought this was my chance ons you know like I had also thought like. Oh this was going to do this. You know I was going to have some life now you know what I mean yeah and and then as time went on we ran into each other at lake an event for Lgbtq we we just laughed and laughed and we had gum and we had gone and I just remember being like I had so much fun with you like you like we went went to Billy Joel like we had fun. That's right. There was so we cry. All My guys like song which wrong like we had so much fun with you. You made me believe in like things things. I didn't know maybe were inside of Lena. Were God given like you you know so. I didn't and I'm just not a grudge holder period and also for my own healing in my recovery. I had to look at things in my life and I had to say. I'm sorry where I had done wrong well so so we both play runs for one season. That runs for another one was nonprofit. We used your stories because we came to that a legal agreement. They're very good. They're the best things in the show. I think I think they're so good and you know we get actresses. That can play you but not as well as you nothing wrong with them but you're the one it's the one that got away and we're still not obviously talking yet. That's fine fine. We bump into each other the thing the second round of the show was not successful which I think is a learning experience for me and just going okay how how to deal with this appointment how to deal with not having a legacy and then going legacy doesn't mean anything like live now crazy because you do have that to luggage and I just don't even care care anymore when you see. Hamilton finally and you're just like Oh. They're going to remember what you who lives. Who Dies who tells your story is. You have nothing to do with it. So what are they trying to put out there. It doesn't doesn't matter but I just do my best so I'm disappointed in the show and I think we had texted once in a while like a funny like literally once every six months and then one day about a year ago didn't you did you write to me. I think so you just like hey. If you're ever in the city I I'd love to talk for a minute or whatever yeah I bet. She's in the program and has two or once a what had happened. When did you started getting yeah helping the group. Yeah I don't I remember the day I remember where we were. I remember the weather I remember knbr everything and I yeah I mean for me like my recovery is so much about lake looking at where I'm wrong and anything I'm holding onto like. I need to ask to let it go and like I would. This is going to sound it's crazy but I would like pray free you know and pray that you would have like all the things that I wanted like you would have and security doc and also just ISOS e the pattern because I still do it I was. I don't do it with like wanting people delay. Give me a career so much anymore but I definitely do it with just like I want somebody to fix what no human next so the stuff that we have to self parent and give are solidly and sued that child and I never thought I would be okay like I never. I thought I could take care of myself. I never I always just felt so terrified and so I really started to see that like my terror made me sick Ray and then because I was so afraid I used people like I wasn't honest in our relationship. You know I didn't say no one. I needed to say no I didn't I didn't show up as I I was a taker of like you're nurturing instead of going lake. I'm a person in this too right so so you didn't show is an equal Colin either die. I came in on the white horse but that wasn't wanted on the white horse really ultimately well yeah. It's nice to help people but you gotta ask them right. yeah until I think just like 'cause I it. Would it would bother me. I'd be like I know that this relationship isn't I know something about this. Relationship needs an immense. I knows something about this. Relationship was wrong but he couldn't figure out what it was so this was while you were going to a and stuff like that or away or whatever our program while I was recovering yeah and and I would just I just realized that I couldn't have this like resentment towards you couldn't have and because the second I saw you at that event. It was just like laughter and fun and I love you and your your fun. You connects to stay for the reception. 'cause I had high heels on and like I'm not GonNa Privee around in high heels. I can't and I I was yeah. My feet hurt. We'll talk about but do you remember leaving. There and I think we texted back forth real quick okay. Hey you think you said I miss you sometime. Let's just go and Chew Gum together or whatever and it didn't feel like the right time but I of course I texted back. Yeah definitely and what's good is. I think neither one of US felt. It was the exact right time. Tell Gut you're always tells you when it's right. When you did reach out yeah I was was like. Oh this is great. Yeah I was like Oh this is going to be cool and I remember going in a friend who you know you know my vicky she goes. Are you nervous. Angolan no yeah. It's really weird. I go no yeah 'cause I think I knew everything was going to work out. Did you feel that way. I really did because I definitely think like I know. I know that I'm forgive her. I know I'm not I know I'm not a grudge keeper and I've had friends from my whole. Oh life and I moved a ton and I've had friends from every aspect of my life and like for better or worse. I just don't get rid of people I don't believe in that you know and I think like where it was different view as it was the first time that I had ever like fought back about something. It was because the story was like it was it's just it was too and I've had a different experience with some very famous producer. WHO also I'm not saying you stole work did not like but who took something thing that I and something in my gut told me that time let this go and the show closed and who cares and because it wasn't but that this was different and it was the first time that I had I had actually like fought for something new and I that's why I think it's a more incredible. All story is that we did fight each other we really did now and then and then something has just healed and different and it may like and I genuinely when love you WanNa be in your company. You know what I mean yeah because when you we met at Petaluma right yeah and because I try to always go go out on my way at least a block for people I really love. This is so fighting's. I'm so lazy like you always had a compartment everything because I'll admit I was thinking what a big shot. I am leading this little into my life. I'm going to save her and get to play. She gets a play on my name right. So why would I just like make her. Come to my apartment. It's like so and now it's like. I'm always saying to my friends like Shaikh him over. You come over here. You know it's just franken be do the the right thing yea how to learn from this experience with you. So I remember we meet over there and you say you're sorry and I could never immense however he said I could have never guessed that your part in it was what you said about the really about the you know how you use people which I hate that word even even even though you use it for you because I didn't feel you didn't feel. I don't think you use people but I think I know how I come in Iraq to save right. I tracked. What's the way now obviously thank God. We're like yeah and then we hung out for a couple of hours just laughing and Josh around than we've seen each other since then by the way. Do you think my part was something different. What was my part part yeah. What did they know. You said You I said was something about What's the manipulate yeah. Oh okay yeah I think it was. I thought you were just GonNa say. I'm sorry we we had that fight because I didn't know like what a circular apology was like you know. The circular apology is like I'm sorry we had a fight instead of saying. I'm sorry I think it was. Are we fought. I'm sorry we fought like I didn't think it'd be anything big. What you were like going deep like. Oh my God holy crap so I love this and then I said to him sorry that I was so pushy she and Myat and all that stuff and then everything was cool. Yeah so what I like about that is now that there's not that onus onus on and I think I'm better now for learning how to not do that anymore. As much yeah we still have the temptation affects. I'll still have the temptation to run on in like a freaking knight in shining armor but the person knew the person in me to have the conversation of do you want this like my niece ace. Christine is very big pond cash. She was on the show and remember Sh- when she had a problem at work and I rushed in there without asking and I said to her on the podcast a a couple months ago I said I'm sorry I rushed into fix that and she goes. Oh Save me from sexual harassment yeah. I'm glad you did that yeah happy but that was a chance suppose she wouldn't have been. I gotta ask I so I can't be such a pussy bull in a China Babinet that I just keep fixing. It's it's not my place but I but you you you have to understand that I will constantly make disasters for myself and go well. Surely someone will come along and fix this. Why having having we do that is. Do you think it's because we want someone to finally prove that we're worthy. I think I am terrified that I have no idea to be on this planet ride show. Every damn like this planet is terrifying but but how old are you. I'm thirty five sue you survive thirty. Five years yet had a really rough go of in bunch areas you know and but yet you're here. You're your healthy. You're not losing your mind. You're not losing your you know your physically fine. You're not homeless. Why do you think we are so oh thinking. We're going to F it all up. I don't know I think that every day every every day I'm like I blew it. I'm GONNA blow it. I had blown it this every day. Field like this is your last chance i. A- there's always that kind of is a way of saying to yourself self while every time I say it's my last chance. It never really is yeah. Never is yeah so daily. When you move along is is it. Has it gotten better since you know sort of learning of these patterns because at least you catch yourself yeah. It's funny. I just got in in. I just got out of another codependent relationship and that was not a business relationship or anything like that but I just noticed that I seek I seek women that are like my mother's age and I love my mom but like I there's something inside of me. That likes still. I just really wants to be mothered. It's interesting yes. I think we all do but also then instead of me being like Oh. I WANNA be mothered. I my mother people to death like I just did A. I don't like to Brag but I just did a community theater production barnum. How was it was. I know filed it. Ah Yeah but guess what I find myself doing I can't rescue and help all those struggling actors yeah 'cause that's their journey and thank God originals e handlers handlers book about her therapy and stuff because I'm not allowing them to fail. I'm not allowing them to do what they're supposed to be doing. In life just like I tried to control my father's death breath the way I tried to push on him all these things and yeah you did it for the right reasons like ultimately you and I whether it was together in our thing thing or with other people were really trying. We're not trying to be immoral. We're now you want out being mean. We're trying to do the right thing by rain but then we don't give them a choice right. You Know My dad the choice to die like he wanted to. I'm sure in ways I'm now. He's going yesterday but whatever so Chelsea Chelsea's book was so informative because she did the same thing to her dad and all we have to do is ask people what they want and they'll tell us yeah and I just think that I just noticed is that so many relationships in my life with women. I don't do this with men I show up and I make it in equitable. Mike I put people on a pedestal and I I will jump through hoops. I'll tap dance I will do. I will do anything to please you. I make you an idol in my life and the second can't that I am not feeling love or getting what I thought that that little show deserve I turn with such a vengeance and you and I think it's because I said yes when I should've said No. I said not myself the entire time and then then the second. I don't get what I want in that relationship. You're getting all those knows. I never sat along the way no reason and you're getting them at a weird time picky about it was all the other it was. It was about all the other things that I said no to myself. Yes to somebody out. You know what I mean. So would the way I I think you know say you and I were like living in the same city or like Oh. Let's hang out and be friends and all that yeah the way to do things would be what where I go. Hey do you WanNa have have coffee. You'd be like when and they'd be like house three and if you look at the watch and you're going forward be better it was four would be better better. Yeah me to look at the watching. Go three would three thirty yeah. That's the way to do or say no tomorrow but it's weird how those sound like such a little tiny destroy me but they all add up to resentment and they destroy me and my friend. Jen is amazing. She you know because okay sure Jane. Fonda says no is a complete sentence. Shore is when you're eighty but there's a lot of years of learning how to say no where you sat down dri and and then you fall apart into a puddle and you're like they're never going to be my friend. Bob Alright so like you have like I feel like I am in those years where it's like. I'm learning how to set a boundary and say this doesn't work for me but I sure I'm paying for it. When I do inside of myself ranking the person will never be my friend again thinking. I've been in Matt Abandonment so much bandit so I don't know I don't know when that shifts or whatever I think it just incrementally by recognize yeah and we're saying no when we mean yes as in Halloween. I mean no I mean I have friends that I now go oh. This is what I can only see every three weeks. This is one that if I get on the phone with her now. I I'm not going to be an hour and a half. I love her but let me just listen to Howard. Stern for a minute before I haul area just kinda. Get your but that's hard to do every choice but I think with actors at work yeah yeah so what he you think what would the healthy people have done if if they were since neither of us was healthy. I don't physically I mean emotionally healthy and what would the same humans have done. They probably would have set set real outline of what needs to be done and take both of their schedules into account. It wouldn't have been over. We're doing on one part the ASININE meaning over like being like Oh let me run the show and let me just be the boss and the beast and and you wouldn't have been subservient to it so you there are ways to do these things in hindsight that's better than not looking back at all and saying it could be be fixed or could have been there are every respectively and isn't it amazing that we can be like it's okay that we made this mess and we can now be friends like that. I think is the gift yeah. We'll ultimately come on. What's freaking play who care who care like I was going. It's like who cares like it doesn't matter like I moves. A lot didn't mean a thing yeah. The biggest thing that ever did was paid to keep my dad added home because that's what he wanted and I'll do it for my mom. What else oh I get to what SAMA freaking comic yeah the Big Freak me. It's like stupid yeah and I get the people think the career and all that and and and physical physical goods get possessions means something but really it's what's in here yeah. I think that that's something that I had to come to. I was I normally am real Nada Jealous this person. I don't have a lot of jealous. I know you don't let it was really I kind of had a really jealous week the week before last and I was really resentful handful about just like I'm also not a I'm not like a hamptons though I don't hang out with people like that and I was just like a round. Some people like that and they all had these connections ends that I thought like Oh. I didn't know the world really worked that. I didn't know that I thought you just worked hard. You know we're both so yeah. We're like Holler uh-huh yeah and I got a little like resenting of it and then I realized that I don't value how you that like. That's not real like sure. There is a part of me that thinks like it would be really nice to have X. Y. Z. Blah Blah Blah but I don't know that like having a bunch of money and that's not really what that's not really. What's going to make your soul seem like it's an invisible commerce? That makes you happy like we all know it to. We know when we give. We receive like we know it yet. You know fills the soul you know ever that stop. It's never do comedy show and get paid or whatever and we'll be after the show you just feeling again doesn't feel much better like when the ask where's offer. Whatever it's like could always wears off yeah doing for other. People doesn't wear off receiving good love Ray Ray by guests like you'll learn something but then I realized that sometimes when I get on a moral high road like that and I started to judge those rich people on on them. That's no good either. That's almost almost like ain't well comparing despair. It's almost like not even seeing them and just being like I accept them as they are. That's hard. It's let's put it this way. It's going to be daily early work for their life but that's alright because it's our great lesson right right. You know I think what's important is that I think we learned. I think what's great is that we came to this whole thing and it turned out good yeah. I think a big lesson I learned was don't apologize until you really know. I know what you're sorry for and you'll how to articulate it because you put it so beautifully that I was like. Oh my God like Shelley thought about this like I was worth something because you just apologize say yeah you know you're whatever dude I. I'm sorry we had a fight. Then you just feel like oh man I didn't mean much person and it was a couple years yeah and and you know what's funny about you saying none and I hope you don't mind me saying this is like you do really mean a lot to me and I think the thing that I was really sad about the thing that really like made me the most sad was that and I could be totally wrong. I could have made up this story but I felt like you probably you who you are and like you have fame. You have success in a field that like a lot of people would want. I don't know that like you get to have people show up honestly and like meet you just be your true friends and I was sad that I didn't because I wanted to be your true friend and so I was sad that my own desires to have what you had or two that that like cut off where like I just want to really really like be your friend because you're a good friend and like you're a loving wonderful human ram. It must not feel good either when you can sense that the other person like wants yes from you you know and that's what I felt like well. I don't want her to feel that way right. Oh well thank you and honestly I probably was so in like need me need me mode that I probably didn't even notice that I was just like why don't she doesn't need me anymore. You know what I think. What's great is like you see more or bad and what you did. I see more bad because I need a totally and you don't do to somebody else as much because I'm still do would. I'll make sure I know I do. I did it yeah yeah so when you say you've got out of a codependent thing yeah did you you recognize it before a big bash ashish or did you have to have a big blow up. No we did not have a big blow up. I think I think we both just saw that lake. I am if I get in the needy plays right where I need. A human to fix for me would only God convict's right. There is no end it is a bottomless for it is in lists and eventually. I it consents when the human is like a like. I don't have the tool kit for this person and then I think we both were like I've made this something. I shouldn't have interesting because I would always see I would grab it every Straw because I didn't have the tools totally I would grab rabbit the freaking vitamins and the dresses and that the writing of the play so we can have that big moneymaker together instead of going. Oh she'll ask for what you need. Yeah Oh God forbid. I would've let somebody open their mouth no but but but that's but it's so funny because you were just doing what I know I somehow put out in the world. We're like so it. It is a perfect storm because no one has enough tools for me. Yeah yeah that's true. No one has a a little bit of power yeah. It's not a human is not a human fix. It's true because it is all about working on ourselves and giving it up to a higher power and all that stuff yeah and now in men trade because men men love to rescue shore and I literally will I'll be like I it will destroy like you need to run now this will I will my need will take you out so are you so you don't date now. Yeah someone my Golota. My guests say that I don't date now because I said you know I don't WanNa which I you know. It's funny millennials. I always used to be judged and I was with the bunch of them the other day and they were playing some game. My House about sex question came up who thinks had had sex. You know the most most recently I go well. I know it's not me. I said `I'm Selva for seven years and they're like. Oh my God why and I said I'm not having sex till I find my spiritual equal and you don't people my age are always like Oh. You gotta be kidding. Ever millennials like that is so great yeah. I believe that and just go wow you know I think I'm like a millennial at heart yeah. I got that so I wanNA like go into an unless I'm with somebody who just gets all this so. Do you feel ever like while that's never going to do. I need to makes me but I never I never think about it. Once in a Blue Oh man it will cross my mind. Do you think because of your horrible break up that was in the play. You were so turned off to relationships. I don't know that because again he I wanted him to rescue me. You know what I mean. I don't know Oh that he that that turned me off a relationships. I think anyone that tries to take time away from my hopes and dream but I've changed on that a little bit and humans are probably more important than like aspirations but but I I to be honest with you like I want to. I want a man that is Christian I want that's and I don't mean Christian like how short we demonstrated. In the news. I mean like a real lake following the teachings of Christ right and not hate like a real and I just have never I've literally never met a single Christian man that didn't like live under Laguardia. You know why I think those people appear when they're when when they're supposed to do and win like we're ready for right so that's why I never think about dating or men because I go she'll going to happen. That's exactly how I feel. I never think about it because I'm lake. Also we're never lonely. We're not lonely lonely be part of his horrible because I just love living by myself and I just love being alone and that's okay though better than having the need telling you know but so what's great about this is we can start working on our two person show again just kidding leading note. I'm so glad we did this because like yeah. I think it shows people a lot about like Oh. It's never really over over over and by by the way if you then agree to disagree and say we walk away. It doesn't have to be even mad now. I had a break up with a friend recently and we're just like I mean this isn't going to work and he's like this yeah. It's not good. It's you have a lot to offer. I have a lot of this tear. Are Combination is awful yeah. Ah Okay hugged it out and that's it. That's amazing. I mean and yes do. I like seeing his post on instagram. No because I'm like it's still kinda sad. Totally that's okay. Guess what sadness will will will stop crying. You know what I mean. I can't kill you yeah. You know I'm not good at the break. I won't break gap with a friend that is like a little well. It's yeah put it this way. fifty-seven I finally had to work up some Kerr. You know yet we just met at a restaurant mayhem and his wife and his wife left because she doesn't like confrontation. Oh in the ad online lots of I rolls here because if you don't like confrontation it means. You're big freaking pussy who just doesn't have any anyway. I don't even understand passive aggressive. I'm like just aggressive with me too because I think if you say it then you can move on. We'll get back to chewing in gone yeah exactly so yeah. I think it takes a while to just go yeah. Let's let's end this with the honor that we started it. That's a night you know and again. Do I think fondly of him now not every day yeah but you know what it'll get to that point yeah totally but I think the discussion how to take place yeah you know but I'm so glad for you and your let me just say you are a phenomenal actress. Stinky semi effing amazing writer Effingham Automation Actress Comic Everything in Ken to find you. You've got to look this broad up. She is very good. Give us your instagram and all your shows. It's Ash Austin Morris that's my instagram twitter. Yes and you will post things because you ooh have written. A one woman have yeah with the title is well you. Actually I need your help. Actually I am asking for help because the titled Totally we saw the title right now has been the end of their because I it's. I didn't have a home. It's all about like home and Blah. Blah Blah and there is no there. There is no there. Are you know what I mean and that's what I realized throughout it but so I but you know it's funny and poignant. I hope about looking for a home yeah. I all all the things I did that failed miserably and making my home in people in career in places and just left me such a dumpster fire dude. I'm going to see it because I'll tell you what that's a big theme for. A lot of people thank you. That's that's really going to resonate with being gift. We look forward everywhere for every. I don't know anyone who's not like that. I know so many people with the bed and breakfast fantasy Juno that is the one where they're going to retire the couple apple and sell their house and start a bed and breakfast. 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Jessica Simpson, Michael Polansky & Natalie?

Who? Weekly

1:04:42 hr | 1 year ago

Jessica Simpson, Michael Polansky & Natalie?

"Today's episode of WHO weekly is brought to you by the w Katy keene premiers Thursday February six that eight seven central or stream free the next day on the CW APP. Are you saying that Lucy Hale is back at it again. Of course. That's exactly what I'm saying. She's always back at it. They WANNA know. We'll be weekly the podcast wheeler and everything you need to know about the celebrities. You don't I'm Bobby Finger. I'm Lindsey Weber Pam Anderson Split from her husband John Peters twelve days after a secret wedding. She said life is a journey. Love is a process without universal. Truth in mind. We have mutually Charlie decided to put off the formalization of our marriage certificate and put our faith in the process. Thank you for respecting privacy at so many words saying like never mind. You don't get to like if you're just never mind if you're GONNA do it. What's the what's the out of wedding the oats? I was drunk wedding. The shotgun wedding known and announce the one Goldman annulment. And if you're GONNA do like an annulment or if if that's like the concept of what you don't get to like have a released like this you'll get to make it like spiritual get to say like we're Romantic Elliot for your support your support as we take some time apart like you didn't even have time together. Also you don't need our support and I don't really think you had it. I mean I don't think anyone who was supporting. I don't think anyone had enough time to even to agree to support. What's funny is this guy was like I hope she doesn't find voted for trump and I guess she found out he voted for trump is like what I think maybe happened? How could do not like you? Look at that guy in your neck. I voted for trump. I feel like they spent I like. They spent longer on their like wedding statements and they did on deciding to actually get married. Yeah this is. This is the result of several drafts. And at least one editor at least the wedding statement was poem his was like ridiculous hers was upon. Also I'm saying I'm sad. I'm sad that it wasn't a poem again. Yeah should at least be a Haiku at this point like you really dragged us through this. I feel dragged and we're not going to hear about I mean maybe we'll hear about this again. She'll tell someone why this happened. And will you know. Watch this space. I mean if it has something to do do with like Julian assange are like whatever I just cannot. I'm not tuning in for this. It has to do with something he did. She added that he's much more despicable than she realized or. Something took twelve days. How long was Kim Kardashian married famously? Like the first one twenty eight days or something yeah Interesting and and Britney Spears was once married for like twelve hours ones. Guess Kim and Kris marriage length seventy two days seven days. It's like a magic number like fans. Now I just I forgot seventy two sounds like an eternity. Compared to twelve seventy two is like a lifetime of marriage. I'm looking back at that wedding. Being linked good for Kim and Kris give it a shot really tried these two. Didn't you gave him the Sun. Even as long as vacation should be twelve days. Their honeymoon should have been longer Lindsey. Did you watch superbowl. If Tyler Super Bowl lived in in a commercial. There is an amazing tree back here which has just all these amazing kind of wonky branches. It's a actually a magnolia tree and once a year at blossoms in the bedroom so all the flowers turn white and it's really really beautiful because it was live every super bowl tweet. That was like Super Bowl. Live laugh love like live then less next year is left one super bowl live. Tyler is funny. What's that was it fourteen? Did you not watch it. How was it there? Haven't been it. Just fourteen super bowls that fourteen. How many one hundred fourteen tickets fifty? Four WHOA and the reason I think that is because I. I'm pretty pretty sure because I did watch lady Gaga halftime performance. This morning and she ends by going Super Bowl fifty one and then she catches the ball. Your bad romance I like Lady Gaga. I said ladies better now lip sync like she's like an evil witch. Shut up the night before to warn them not to lip sing. It's kind of great. We'll get back into lady Gaga. But I did her halftime show. What's incredible time? Show you keep calling it. Her halftime show. She wasn't at halftime. Or after I'm saying Lady Gaga Halftime show from three years ago was incredible. All we watched. That's what I'm saying that you were talking about her Super Saturday performance which was like no I did not watch essentially `Nigma without stupid love in which he threatened the girls not to lip sync better here. No Lip synching two mile. What's I don't know what you're talking Avin? Okay I love this headline my favorite headline post Super Bowl really not. It's really not one of my favorite headlines from suitable Taylor is one of them. Shakir Super Bowl outfit was the same as Zootopia characters outfit and was you. Click it and look at it. It's exact same I wow I said Oh my god God. She was a singing Gazelle but she did not sing the song from Zootopia exactly. She didn't try everything. I thought her. Own solter Coltart. I thought it was great. Like it kept me the funniest thing I said after to someone I was like. I was so riveted the whole time that I didn't even think about whether J.. Lo was singing live vocals which is huge huge. Because that's usually the number one thing that I personally would be like. She's alive uncles. But I think I was thinking about but I didn't care of you were thinking about it. You know I wasn't even about does it often because it often just sounded too good. Well she's really good. We'll Shakira's onto the good. When they cut the roles you uh-huh? She could play the drums when they cut to her on the drums when they when they revealed her daughters singing. J.LO's daughter singing. Let God bless America. Well let's get loud. It was good it was it was a great medley I was I was looking through the past super bowl shows and I had forgotten what the past two were and it was like five. Was One of them. Justin Timberlake was one of them and I was like no wonder I forgot them like sure. No they were Jaylo. I think I think the J. Lo I don't know I think they're exciting. Could have been more interesting but it was still just exciting because it was the two of them. I'm not GonNa Forget Secure and J. Lo dip this. Do you know what I mean like. That's I think my ultimate compliment to this. This is a memorable a little moment. Nothing was groundbreaking Shaquille going La. La La La. Maybe I think this I think the poll the moment was groundbreaking. I'm no one's ever danced on a pole. Four Super Bowl before that is groundbreaking. That's the same as your feeling and and I don't know I feel like they had enough surprises. There were like you know bad. Bunny and J Galvin showed up like there were moments they six years. Thanks so much of it in Spanish Spanish which was amazing. There is so much Spanish for like that rules. No pit bull shocking shocking no pinball I wonder where he was and I don't know I don't even know if he was there. You can't have a Mayan. There wasn't even Miami and there was no pit bull. Let's not beat around the Bush all right. Are you in the halftime show. Am I in halftime. Tim Show I'm involved with a lot of things to do with the Super Bowl. I just leave it at that. Are you in the halftime show. I plead the fifth under under the right. That this question might incriminate me. I understand that I guess my point. Is that what I have learned about myself self is that I just always wanted to be a diva. A woman like a halftime performer. Should be like a woman diva and it should be a career retrospective and I don't really wanted any other way you know and I'm going to be disappointed. I still think this is like we're still talking. We're talking about them here. I don't even know why we're we really should not be talking about this. But it I still think in this wrote about in the newsletter which is departed now but the rip newsletter was basically like Jaylo should have had the whole all thing which I thought was amazing and now I look back and I'm like okay. That was great. I get it but I still kind of in my mind widened. Jaylo just get the full show. She has enough. You know it felt vaguely. It would feel more disrespectful. If Shakira weren't also deserving of it you know like who can re I mean I I guess who can really complain about Shakira. Getting a moment deserve the whole thing. CHIQUITA's definitely as worthy of it. Now looking back at what they did did. But in the lead-up instill something. I'm like you know it's not like Jaylo could've carried offer it to Katy. Perry gets the whole show Gog against the whole show so if you know Justin timberlake gets the whole show like speaking of live vocals. Katy Perry canton right like it doesn't. The live vocals are relevant to the show. This is the most Jaylo show there is which is live vocals are irrelevant. She just did Vegas for however long. That's a perfect type of show that could translate into which I think some of her sh- some of her super bowl was from her show or like had been adapted from her. Show the weed for tonight part. I just think that it was kind of weird to have them both. Why is it? Why is it Jennifer Lopez? Good got enough on her own. Yeah Yeah Yeah well. Whatever it was good I mean it's a relevant relevant because it was good? Yeah totally okay. Did you see Sierras maturity maturity. Where I was like? You're a genius. She wear like she wore football jersey. And that's why I believe. It said Russel Wilson on it. Yeah and did she wear like there was the seahawks football in her belly. Like painted on her belly. Am I supposed to know. I'm just saying she just wore. She wore a like a Fashion Football Jersey. That's what a perfect. Yeah we've talked about too much recently. I think she's on the marine. She's on the brain which of these celebrities did not attend the CASA migos Super Bowl party. Okay so weedy Joey fatone Lil Jon. Dj Marshmallow Elon. Musk taboo the baby. The Entertainer Paul McCartney or Jonathan Shelvin. Jonathan Shelvin they were all there that was true. We Paul McCartney and the baby like like hung out. They didn't hang out but all of y'all evidence that sideshows wild it's like. Oh there's baby oh there's Sweetie Oh there's Paul McCartney and cedric. The entertainer ball weekend for celebrities is kind of who it's like. It is people like show Weirdos show up and celebrities love Miami. Miami's a great place to party. So right and so they show up to like go to all these like great places to party at the Ellensburg the the MCM ex rolling pre super bowl event or at the. Where's the other one that was really funny Rachel Lindsay and La La Anthony Indulgent fast food treats at Buzi on the Water Party with McDonald's and Post Malone Buzi on the water with McDonald's and Post Malone like the two brands of equal weight with McDonald's and postpones photos of like you know Rachel Lindsay from the Bachelor and La La Anthony like eating quote unquote McDonald's posing with French fry in mouth or okay mouth. I will tell you something Rachel Lindsay and look the photo Rachel. NC In the photo of Lala Holding. McDonald's little the iconic red curtain with the stripes and the the franchise. And that's fine that the McDonald's fries a great prop. Yeah whatever Lala Anthony is holding in the second vote is not chicken. Is that chicken sandwich. Because she has the waxed paper wrapper just like crumpled rumpled under the right shape proof that she might eat it because it is like a real sandwich versus like a prop. It looks terrible the freising the fries are like Sheikh. Yeah right right some little thing and they were like Lola have this and then. She like unwrapped. Somebody from McDonald's. HQ is like. I can't believe that's in like I'm so angry. Someone's getting fired over that that like terrible sandwich being held with crumpled trash around. No one's getting fired at McDonald's the once upon a time people get fired at McDonald's all the time okay the once upon the ones the ones of my God the one of a kind pop of experience which was put by the H.. Would group in the know experiences green says and the network advisory featured luxury offerings. Remind you this is at McDonalds party unique brand activation immersive guest experiences. Which I assume it's just eating? McDonald's food along side top-flight hospitality. I feel like I'm at McDonalds. immersive experience they also got to indulge in liquid. IV hydration at the eye catching catching photo installation and ballpit wait. You had to get an IV in a ball pit or you were like you ball painted before the boom cups featured cups and drink recipes. Defiance fueled drinks as well as rowdy energy and zen products. So we're eating McDonalds. were drinking defiance fuel drinks. Were going going into ballpit. And we'RE GETTING IV I we're getting IV hydration discussed. You know. Honestly they'll my dream is eating McDonalds while getting an IV hydration. It's it's gross. I mean it reminds me of the Iranian that whatever it was was it for the Super Bowl. The trump photo where he's like posing with all the fast food and everyone's making fun. Of course I know so but the thing about this is that like I love the idea of just having as many negatives I wanted as many as I want but the thing about McDonald's is that it needs to be hot like there's no way this stuff was not room temperature which is really disgusting. Everyone's posing with these fries. That are no longer good. Maybe they had them under like have fancy heat lamp. You never know they. They're being they're being carried around by those like cop like cigarettes like cigars. McDonald's Freidel trays. Yeah yeah maybe I don't know I think they may be thought of this. Maybe they were too busy thinking about. IV hydration other other things that happens. Emily Radicati flaunted her taught. Aw Tommy and a crop top and makes Kurdish. She joined Michael Rubens Fanatic Super Bowl party. Olivia couple flaunted her rock hard APPS and under boob in a pink crop top and matching miniskirt for a day at the beach and Miami so just like the stars were caught out and the new stars are the Super Bowl wives. Will Israel funny like when I was looking for content the night of the Super Bowl like the day of the Super Bowl earlier in the day. Just jared really fricken had a run of people I'd never heard of until I realized that what they were doing was just being like. Who is this football player? Who's playing the Super Bowl's wife or girlfriend friends? Who is Sammy? Watkins wife Meet Tala Watkins. Patrick mahomes girlfriend meet Brittany Matthews. His high school sweetheart. Who is George George? Kettles wife meet Claire. Kill meet her. And there's nothing really to know about these women either. No I mean because they're not really their wives and girlfriends like it's not like they are people who are actively trying to become more famous. You know what I mean like. It's not like there's like. Oh and they're launching this thing and they're doing this thing like such which is usually the case with a lot of these. Meet this person things there. It's not like they're not inherently interesting. Like I'm sure sure. These women are interesting. But the setup for them is that because their spouse or partner wins the superbowl but then they're relevant to be who are they but like it's not like the Super Bowl involves your spouse or partner at all in any way you know Like the it's not like Eddie Mathews getting most of the headlines because she's the MVP's girlfriend and their high school sweethearts. They went to high school in Texas together. Right it's like. That's kind of not started a fitness site. The fitness is down because I guess it has never had this much activity before so I came out about her fitness site overloaded with Super Bowl the Traffic Brittany Lynn fitness dot com. She was everywhere on like she was on us and people just charity was on everywhere. Oh yeah because she did a lot of instagram. Like kinda behind the scenes won. Mvp Patrick Mahomes Mahomes Mahoney. Yeah No. It's all moments it's mahomes. I looked this up. I wasn't sure I was literally a thousand times yesterday and none of we did not pick the halftime show. Yeah I I only watch the halftime show and I saw the I watched the ads. I saw one accidentally because I was watching it Ah Promo for the final episode of Homeland. Season thousand seven which. I'm just now catching up on and during the Super Bowl I was like gotTa Watch the Promo for homeland season seven episode twelve and. They showed the groundhog day ad before that they were like on Youtube was on it. I mean they've been they've been passing out around all day. The thing about the ads now is that they release them the the week before for a lot of them so they're not really surprises prizes anymore because they want them to go viral like at the same time as a super bowl but also be on this bowl. You'll get these troublemakers johnny towers. I knew Oh yeah to Sinatra. Let me back. You're not thinking carbon. They're studying matic. This look who's got smack. Pack Lady Gaga has a new boyfriend and he has been revealed as investor. Michael Polanski. She would she wait. Explain she would would have a boyfriend named Michael Polanski whose he's like some kind of investor who's like curing cancer. I don't know she would. He sought curing cancer. He's working for Sean. Parker has be F- F- Made famous by Justin Timberlake. I agree with that. It's cynical like Sean Parker. Like not great but this guy seems like he's doing in good and is smart from non cynical point of view like maybe he's taking Sean Parker's like dirty bad money but maybe he's using it to cure cancer okay. He works for. He's like the CO founder of this place called the Institute for Cancer Immunotherapy. But it's the Parker Institute for commit for cancer immunotherapy and and he's been working for Sean Parker for a long time. They were co investors and all these weird startups that I'd never heard of one of them was called airtime which still exists which is basically facetime but not I love this quote from an anonymous source. Michael is a really smart Guy Ak smart love a very serious guy who has always been low key. People are saying Gaga would have met him through events. Sean Parker has hosted at his house including the launch and other events on the foundation. Sean also had a big party hardy for his birthday in L. A. in December and both Gaga and Michael Were there so we don't know how they met but it sort of threw Sean Parker probably and they were seen making out on a balcony Albany and she showed her Thong and Daily Mail said leg lady Gaga puts on cheeky display and Black Thong with mystery man. Michael in Miami. This says in two doesn't sixteen. Fortune reported that John Parker gave two hundred fifty million dollars through his foundation to launch Parker Institute for Cancer Immunotherapy. A collaboration between some of nations since top cancer research institutes that aims to accelerate the development of breakthrough immune therapies and that. If you search it it's like he's working with Dana Farber he's working working with like UCSF SF like he's working with actual real hospitals that are doing cancer research. Like I know that I don't just the moment like the same people who are awful like Taylor also involved in all this crap too so it's just like the. Yeah but this feels a little bit less like Peter thiel trying to like turn himself into a vampire and more like a rich each person doing very basic but somewhat good charity like you know goggles charity charities like her number one thing too so I get how these two were. Ah probably like Johann. Travelers is not a chair. I mean wait. Is it not a chair like is it not a charity already. We've been I've been there. Have you been there. It's looks like they're to get Lala that shirt that one there is Joanne Trump Toria. I I walked in and I was like hi I need to buy. Do you have any other Joanne. Pride shirts left and she was like we only have largest and there's only five of them left and I was like well l.. I only need one. Well good for you and I was like I'll take the one great. And she was like okay so I paid for it and there were these like women and this is full. Elite would as a Sunday afternoon maybe a shade afternoon like twelve thirty or one and there are these women at the bar. And they're all drinking like pink drinks and it's like twelve thirty and Sunday. They're all drinking drinks and they heard me say one Joanne bright shirt and she was like yeah. I think there's there's five so she comes back with mine and then one of the women goes. Can I have one of those two. Because she saw mine and then the other two were like actually bring three of them. All was amazed sold. More shirts shirts sold more shirts. Yo Enter Toria. Yeah no I was talking about the born this way foundation and yeah I know what you were talking about Gog. As great she gets back. We want to talk about Ariana Grande as new boyfriend. Now the funniest thing about misty is boring but this is the actual good. Oh I know you would point. I knew you were gonNA pull this out the friends we act. I don't think we said this part. Yeah Frankie wasn't like there was like never mind. It's vaguely official. Like she hasn't said anything but they were holding. Hands ends at Disneyland. And what else could that mean and there are photos of this Frankie Lorraine Lebron days i WanNa talk about actually always at Disneyland. I don't want to talk about heck. So Frankie here's the headline. Frankie grant talks double dates with sister. Arianna and really sweet collaborator. Mickey Foster. mikey foster. Mickey Foster Nike so in September in September of last year Frankie ground a win around and was saying that he was on a podcast or something on the US weekly podcast that he had just gone on on a double date with his boyfriend and Arianna and her boyfriend and it was like we love double dates believable. He goes off about how it's double double double date the hint a day day later. Reo people make him. Rescind all of that insane. He said and he said are this is his explanation. He had to give plus weekly imagine being punished by your sister. One of the most famous people in the world Ariana Grande and having to get on your knees and go to US weekly and say Arianna and Mickey Foster are not in relationship Shia sing. Mikey my comments. mikey foster are are not no relationship. She is single and my comments about our recent hang as friends were not meant to be taken can literally hale and I were on a date which is why I refer to it as an double date when we had plans with them without realizing what the term insinuated about their relationship outside of my own it was literally four people meaning up as friends and I would never comment on something so personal about her life anyway statement exactly. That's what you do that. It's literally do that as a career. He called it a double date the other night. It's a lot of fun. What's so funny? Is that like at first. I was like you said. Oh you know and he he had to go to us. We can give a statement. I was like he never. He didn't go. They just sent one on his behalf. But then you read it and I was like oh no he wrote this like this is like written by a person in their life. You Frankie Rinke. She's like I'm trying to keep this relationship with Mikey. Foster from what a social house a secret Social House I. What is that a song with her? She did a song with them. I know that and that's the only thing I know she did. It's on with them but then he co wrote a lot of her songs so they have been collaborating and also probably dating since last okay. Great so boring. Why live curtain? Whatever whatever's me when she started just want to keep all of your call me when shirt stating like a chain smoker like? I'm not concerned about this person. Fine you know. We're not concerned about this person. Zach braff you know for concerned about Jessica Simpson her memoirs out. Everyone's everyone's talking about Simpson. We kind of declared like them to who situation we did. We did. Yeah kind of kind of this book doesn't help help because I don't like this book came out and the WHO he is thinking about this book. Is that Nicholas has not read it and he will not read it right. He's like they didn't even send me a copy. which is this kind of poor form? Maybe he's not telling the truth but I think he is. He was like he said well. No I have not read a single word. He told us we on Saturday night at Michael Michael Rubens fanatics bash at Lowe's Pammy beach delegate. We don't need that information. He then referred to his wife. Vanessa La- Shea. Both of us have not read the book and no should not reach out before was was published. I feel like she should reached out before his published. What should happen? Yeah that's what you should do. That's etiquette. I have not read the book and I honestly don't plan due based off like how boring it seems and I don't really have a vested interest in in Jessica Simpson. You know yeah I mean the this celebrity memoirs that matter celebrities who are older so they have a long life that you don't necessarily know about so it's like you wanna read about someone who's background. You don't really know about the ads that's long yeah great. Their friends are dead so they can like talk shit about them without getting into exactly or you have someone who went through like a very specific like if not traumatic like character defining moment that you want more context about that you never got. But then it's like Jessica's one too young to she's been famous forever. We already pretty much know everything about her. The only suffered here. That's really getting people talking. Is this stuff about her addiction. And it's like that's such a bleak reason to pick up book like I. I know everything about this woman. Essentially like I don't need to read about her tragedy. That's sad of thinking about this because they just put out another Justin Bieber Docu series to basically promote his album like the Taylor swift documentary that came on the Justin Bieber Docu series on Youtube. I'm I'm just thinking about how these because of the interest that we have and the popularity of these like nonfiction series four celebrities to like that celebrities are like get a ton of money to put out these memoirs they are like maybe going to write in the future. Never GonNA write become so less valuable because they're just repeating the same stories like Justin Bieber has said so much base. Maybe all there is. He's basically said it all about like what he's gone through and he's not a writer so I don't you want to read anything he's written anyways or even anyone's ghost written like with him or about him. Because I already know all of these things like you run out of trauma to to did you know right about you. Know so it's interesting because it's like because of the popularity of kind of Docu series and documentaries humidity's right now because of Netflix. Whatever I don't I think a lot of these memoirs or like cannot be written this early basically you know and Mimi Mimi Jessica Simpson's memo should have been a Docu series at this point because this is not interesting? No you know I was just thinking about recent memoirs that I've read and I have not read. I don't really read a a lot of celebrity memoirs but it's like I wanna read the Demi Moore one still and it's like what is one of the resort read that it's because she had a good ghostwriter remember was like Ariel Levy Ri- ri-. Yeah she was. She had things to say she had stuff to say and like Gabrielle. And then Gabriel unions memoir was really good but it was like because because we don't know it's it's fun to read about about all that much about Lake Gabrielle. Union was like is I kind of a Private Person Jessica Simpson has been everywhere forever forever. You know like it's very strange to me that everyone is talking about this Yes It's tragic and maybe that explains all of it. I'm not sure anyone's reading it. I think people talking about it like no you know got it got a lot of good coverage it's obviously got to you. got a people cover. She Got New York Times profile. But I don't think anyone's actually talking about it. Yeah so what's the what started this. So it's it's strange to me like okay so Jessica Simpson. If we know one thing about Jessica Simpson is that. She doesn't need the money. Just because Simpson is so fucking looking rich Jessica. Simpson is fine. That wouldn't be like a a reason to do this or like a really big deciding factor and so it's like maybe she wants to. You know. Reveal some sort of sad truths about herself. As a way of like rehabilitating her image because she has been sort of a joke lately especially since the Ellen thing which he writes she was wrong drunk she she was drunk three years ago and Ellen. Yeah so it's sort of like Y if that's all it was if you were just trying to sort of do some minor rehabilitation listen to your image or provide people some context. Why wouldn't you just try to seek out a cover story or profile or like a New York Times magazine thing so maybe it sort of it? Is it unfair of me to assume that. Maybe that's something that they tried and no one was interested really and so they were like. We're just going to do it ourselves. I'm just saying think think it's weird that this even happened. It's a weird memoir. It's a weird clamoring revealed in. It was dark because she reveals like childhood abuse. She talks about like addiction. You know she talks about the public perception of her. which was that she was a stoop? Issue is stupid in in her past relationship that was like idealized or whatever that there is stuff there you know I just feel like is it. Maybe she's using this as the foundation for some other things she's going to be doing in the future. Maybe where it's like okay. Now I have this book now. I'm going to start this sort of. I don't know this this foundation where I help. She's victims of abuse or some. She's still singing like that was another thing it's like did. She believes the song to go with this leg. No right she did it so it sounds like she's saying let me show. I WANNA sing like I want my singing career back. Here's this Thing to promote won't music. That's not what's happening all and she. Maybe it's maybe it is stage one of like a new five year plan or something. Maybe maybe I just you're right like I wonder who came to her like it's time to write the memoir you know or maybe whenever you get sober though. That's kind of what you I think to do. Maybe that's just part of her experiences seeing it hanging. It came like right after she you know got sober. I mean maybe I'm thinking too much about it and not even thinking all that hard about it I just find it very strange that this memoirs coming up especially because I think our most recent precedent Senate with memoirs is Demi Moore's and it made so much sense like that memoir made so much sense excited but that was the first memoir that made sense in so long to I mean that was a rarity like in the CEO of like memoirs where you're like who cares five things from like who cares you know. That was the one that you actually wanted to read. That felt like it was thought through and had some real bombshell revelations that five things to know from who cares e leg. Whatever the whatever the summary is of the book or Something Jessica Jessica Simpson? Maybe a WHO I don't know. TV you better than you shake. His whole from beyond those Cobra will income in Ohio With the DOT is another cheap. Thrill if you put them in your way the talk of the town. He may not like blenders. But he's not averse to mixing up his love. Life Gavin Russell spotted with Mr Blonde. After splitting with Russian playboy model girlfriend over one thousand pound blender as the price not the weight. You know. What's funny what what is because I didn't click IT IN I? I don't know what to say to me is less sad than what Gwen Stefani's up to whenever I see the grabbing roster and I'm like what's you know like what his life went a different direction but I always think compared to Gwen Stefani. Obviously because I'm petty but like what she's doing so so much bleaker than him splitting up his girlfriend over a blender. No that's literally what it is. A A Gavin pills not dating Blake Shelton saying so if you click on that link. It's just you know talk of the town. They just do like little blips of gossip. It's not like a fully reported article. This one just reads the Bush singer has been dating. Nellie for eight months but when she demanded a one thousand pound money not pounds weight Thermo Mixed blender. Recently it sparked an argument that led to the end of the romance quote. She is very demanding. said a friend of Natalie. twenty-six Natalie does not have a last name. I guess she has always been asking for things. We joke that. The straw that broke the camel's back was a blender. We joke joke. The straw that broke the camel's back was a blender which might break a camels black bag. If it's so heavy will it's that blender that does everything in your essentially it's and they have to look to it. Has This really big base and it like blends things that also makes next ice cream these things. It looks almost like you. You combined an instant pot with the thermometer even though it's not a pressure cooker it's just like a very weird looking conditional breaking camel's most baggage huge is really heavy really heavy and it's huge. Of course it come way job. Grind grade steam whisk mixon boil. But for the first this time ever knew cooking modes more old to your cuisine giving you more wild yomas attendance. They'd effortless and Gavin Rossio. Didn't buy for his his Russian girlfriend Russian model girlfriend and she broke up with him. You know what sometimes you gotTa have a line. WHAT ELSE IS I? Don't know about this about this woman Natalie. Nothing which is the title of the episode adult even ever last name. I couldn't Gubler Russian playboy model girlfriend. Natalie she's not even in the headline what's weird. Is that the quote that says like He. She broke up with him because the blender is from her friend. Is Your friend named Jessica like Oh I don't know but one of these days you should look at their moments. It's very it's like it's very cool. It's one of those things that like. Just looked it up. Now it's crazy it's one of the first too far it's a device. It's a device. That reminds me of the heyday of you. Know UH OF RONCO and watching infomercials because you watch it and you're like I need this thing for not like when you watch the demonstrations you're like God I can't live without this. Oh my life is over like Mom Dad. Can we please RONCO electric food dehydrate or because I need to make my own jerky and Rondo rotisserie chicken in your house window. I'll set it. And so I just love the the what was the actual spinning Rotisserie thingy and then he had set it in forget it. which was this woman? Dated Gavin Rosedale for eight months to try and get this vitamix inch or thermex and she finally built up the lake courage to be like be what I really want. Is this thermo mix blender sent him a link and then he was like no and she was like well moving on you know who will buy me a thermo mix. I feel bad now Natalie reach out. I don't feel bad. Bi Weekly will get you a thermo Komo mix I feel bad about this You do actually want fucking blender she did date Gavin Rockdale for eight months no blender her name is Natalie Golda. Well did you see. She has the blender did she get it. I'm I'm actually on her on her trying to see if the blenders anywhere because that would be so funny. Oh my God. She has a kitchen poor thing. She doesn't have. It only has a kitchen. A that's basic she posed with kitchenaid blender in some sponge. She only as a kitchenaid poor thing. Will someone please this. Russian model Natalie blender blender. She needs it. I know Natalie was born in Russia to parents who are both surgeons and her grandmother was a pianist and as a child. She took piano lessons in general she was quite off. Oh my God. This is so boring as Natalie had an aptitude for mathematics. Her parents really want want her to go in that direction so she ended up at the economics but our soul however was always asking for something else. Thermo Mix wait I copy. So here's my coffee. My favorite brain now you may occur and of other her true passion nowadays is cooking and this is what she intends to focus on works as a commercial she she needed Thermo Mixed Z.. Needs to focus on our gang Gavin's rouge a she's got a Daily Mail article is Gavin. fifty-three seems unperturbed. As that's my picture of him far right taken in La last week shows. He appears to have made a new friend. A mystery blonde. He may not like blenders. But he's not adverse to mixing up his love life. Get it mixing mixing up as we have to keep tabs on this woman because I need to follow her on instagram. Keep seeing her. She's cushy. Coaching beeps this fucking blender. Sure hello my difference. 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ZAC EFRON is dating Halston stage after ending relationship with cerebral. When I see a name no he was dating either the unnamed? That like I've said before out loud on this podcast but have no clue who it is like a blue out of my mouth and into this well like last night when page six wrote Demi Levato is partying with like Dave. Oh like party. Planner Dave Oh and I was like fuck. I know who that is. We talked talked about him. That Dave Oh philly guy. WHO's like definitely a celebrity fixer? Like whatever he does he's basically like a the I don't WanNa think about might all I don't need to think about about them but my point is is that I saw this name. I saw Halston sage. I was like fuck. I've said this before but I don't know it's a model but I don't know who I don't know what I've said about. Got Her in the past. Who is she? Who is this woman? Halston Halston stolen wholesome verge. You gotTa Keep Your Mouth Open. Halston Sung he can't haul so when you say when you say you can close your mouth wholesome so now. She's an actress. No she's an actress. She's not she's not a model but she's pretty. She's in the show at mom she's in the show were Ville and she was also a name. Oroville ooh up the segment Mug the segment. That's Joe Seth McLean McLaren was his Orville. Yes that show McFarland land. She's done she's done with Sarah but Sarah Sarah Broza perfect mattress ZAC Efron. Because she's a fucking Olympian. But do you remember what event Ski Different Water Different Form of what you deal sack Ephron waking up every morning next to an Olympian like Bro. That's perfect for him. That's a perfect match. It is. He loves sports. are like Halston sage. So I don't know why it's so hard for me to say this didn't sage Tae. Hey everyone you are vaca. ACA Clever TV. I'm Jane Award Joslin Davis Today in the studio we have for the first time. Halston say thank thank you. I know. I've never actually been. Here's please welcome Halston sage. Let's hear. Hey Hi thanks so much for being here. Thanks for having me. Is that how. You're actually really saying that naturally Halston sharing like you were playing in you. Sound like he was playing it up really funny so I wanna read her early life. America pedia sage sage was born and raised in Los Angeles California. BOOP surprise she has a younger brother and a younger sister. Not Interesting sages. Jewish cou he wrote his name. uh-huh pulls up seat Zach. Here's what you should date. Also she rode horses competitively and was the editor of her high school's newspaper. That's it that's early life that the girl the girl who grew up in La rode horses and was the editor for high school's newspaper. Zafran I take it back. I don't think they should be together. This girl finds a minority according to access Hollywood. He has rekindled his romance meaning they dated before she also did before for because of neighbors because Oh and she also dated Charlie booth at one point according to some unreliable source. Maybe the song. La Girls is about Talso. Sage with these GEICO also also I thought I was clicking on a profile of her but it was just a it was just a slide show of her red carpet looks but it made. It looked like it was. I was looking for some information but it just gave me you know the game is just gave. You actually sang a lot. That's very telling you know. So here's the thing so it says we always fuck up like not look up who someone has dated did in the past because usually you will find something interesting and sometimes we forget to do this. I just found something really upsetting about who she dated and she date this. Rancor story says that she date at Seth Macfarlane Creator Powerful. Now come on. That's what rancor says that's what rancor says it says the Orville co-stars Halsall As Seth McFarland started dating in September two thousand seventeen they have a twenty year age difference. They broke up in two thousand eighteen. Stop wait that's what it says. It sucks is useful search. I think they're gonNA come up together because he created the show that she acted on. They went on a lot of little one on one dates. Together Lindsey hulce's and someone Marlin don't that's it's really Seth Macfarlane Daily Mail Star spotted having dinner. Maybe giving her no. They went to select. They went to Lebron Hotspot Sushi Park in West. Hollywood they want it to be seen own Now is I thought something was married. He hasn't been in a relationship since breaking up. With game of thrones actress. Amelia Clarkin twenty thirteen. After six months together so click for six six months according to the Daily Mail and no no although there were no uh-huh PDA's the couple looked very happy together. This is really funny because the the the description of the date. Just sort of veers until it changes lanes like whenever you're changing lanes and because you look look at your phone and then you accidentally veer into the other lane that his. What's happening in this story? It says Halston plays the devoted lieutenant. Laura Keeton the chief of security. She's a member of the zillion race which inhabits inhabits a high gravity planet giving her greater than human strength. So if I were accidentally reading this and thinking I was reading about Holson stage I would say oh well you didn't know. She's a member of the ZILLION race. What's happened to high gravity planet? ALANTIC giving her greater than human strength honestly. That's like more information about our than we have currently so I'd take it. I have one tweet of hers that I think you would like that would make you fall in love with her. Legs Ephron Ready. You think I would like it when you saw pete you'll be like wow. I love Halston sage. It's a Soloviev her in bed holding a Mug of coffee with milk in it and it says my favorite drink and my favorite city. What city is she in? Where is her favorite city? I think just assume assume it's New York it's fine. What one person did you have on your wall when you were in high school? Oh no kidding. Tara banks just IRA purple bathing suit. Because in other relationships like plow through these but we clearly can't plow through anything. This happened a while ago but we mentioned it on the on. Her billionaire. Boyfriend broke up Hassan Asandra meal. They broke up after three years of dating from you. Nothing about him except for aside from the fact that he dated Riana big kept this quiet. Very Riana keeps things private Ronald Rana's glitter and that came out which I was surprised about. Yeah so when that's of happens and you assume rightly wrongly that it's because like really wanted us to know. This wanted us to know that the officially over otherwise. I don't think that that would be everywhere you know. Single and ready to Fuck uh-huh release the album or I'm single ready okay. Who else? What else happened here is the album where is stupid love that I've never heard where Israeli donnas album which is finished by the way she said it was not a podcast for that? This is a podcast. We're talking about princess love and rage who are not together we. They've been back and forth but they are not together either. I don't remember this. This is cry Wolf Riana and Hassan. You'll keep things quiet. They don't make announcements Princess Levin Ray j all they do is defined defined the relationship publicly. That's all they do is yes we are no. We're not we're not. I don't believe this that's true. That's true just because they are not together right now doesn't mean they will be together tomorrow. Okay fine who is not the reason I put this here so this was on Boston. Yesterday's Super Bowl Buddha up low Wayne Latisha make their first outing as a couple Louis. Wain Latisha our grading the reason why I put this here was because Latte last last night a Cyberman. The Super Bowl was the premiere premiere of Massingir season. Three which is now on. Apparently all the time it's just on all year which is distressful. It's just on twenty four seven until either we run celebrities or we stop watching which I hope people stop watching. Because I can't bear to guess these people anymore. The point is is that just when I'd made these brought brought you know these big claims like no one famous ever beyond mass celebrity actually famous. Contemporary relief is begging superstars. Water itself the last night. The first person kicked off was the robot and it was low wayne looming celebrity. And here's my thing. Mass celebrity is what you call it you write about this and you singer singer. The mass celebrity sounds like. Here's what I'm saying about Massingir. A singer is it's being ruined because I think I think the little thing was rigged. I think he was like I'll algal to promote my album. which if you knock me out I always cry Bismillah leaving again? We must say gain rearrange enter or so I mean that's well that's that was always the rumor about the dancing with the stars were. It's like you can go on and just kicked off early if you want to do one thing and make get the press xactly Ackley. 'cause he 'cause we. We had caller we had reality producers like assistance and producers. Call in and say that absolutely happens that as a thing that happens you make agreements for certain certain amounts of we right so we just so. I was like when I saw that happening. I was like Oh. Is this a turning point for the mass singer where they have actually famous people on it and then I realized no. It's just just like low wing. Had AN ALBUM DOT com. That came out. He's promoting it. He's at the Super Bowl with his new girlfriend. He's like doing stuff and he's on the mass thing or which which premiered right after after the episode. That happened right after the Super Bowl. So that's the biggest is opportunity for this show and he got revealing the biggest is. I'm sorry the kangaroo might be Jordan Woods. I'm now it might be. I think it is Jordan Woods. Why do you think it's Dorothy clues are like they're S- they're one hundred percent Jordan Woods? Oh like most of you watching survivor recently. Lost a person who together then by my own admission. I found myself in the spotlight for all the wrong reasons. Because and she's calls uh-huh go. I won't like fall prey to bullying. There's also like a tree with a gramophone. Her her father who died was A. He's a sound engineer. Like they try and trick you by making her like an Australian kangaroo but it's just a misdirect but the thing is when she sang she's like a good singer that was what fucked me up. I spent like an hour looking through tweets being like I was reading about Latisha who I've never heard of. But apparently she's she's a model. She's a plus size model. Oh that's our claim to fame. So she's like I guess. I think she appears to be like one of the most famous and prolific plus size models. Okay some reading about our. But one of the headlines of you know fourteen photos photos of low Wayne's maybe bay. I guess they've been rumored to have been dating for several months now. Since the headline is thick colon fourteen photos of Lil weights. Maybe on Cassius DOT COM there. She is looking back to my channel. My name is a t-shirt anaemia today. I want to have a conversation. You this is about the Diet and the industry. Hey guys welcome back to my channel. My name is Latisha. If you're new here today I WANNA have a conversation with you guys about shopping shopping in store and what your experiences are as a plus size woman or full of woman. Hey guys welcome back to my channel. My name is Latisha if you knew yet. I'm so I haven't really had a chance to sit down and talk to you guys since my lost body positively video so tonight to actually talk about some things such as stretch month sting pools and various Vania. So she's a model. I thought there'd be more about her. So that's that was just my lead into tak about low a wing getting unmasked on celebrity and it was like kind of a media turning point for the show but I also don't think it's a turning point for the show at all maybe it's not or as the as the messing expert sort are. Do you know anything about like our ratings. Good I think so yeah. They rushed a third season. I mean the second season was barely cold. You Know Yeah Yeah. They rushed the third season. I think that they're just like this. Is Our love island. We gotta keep moving until the wheels fall off. You must dream of landing spot like this blake where you're not really an actress anymore. You really are just a host your personal the judge the dream job. This must be being judge on these shows because there are so many of them now and maybe maybe I don't know I feel like these shows have higher hit rate than like a Sitcom or ceiling lego masters hosted by Wheel Arnett. I saw the ads where but I didn't know what it finally premiered. Yeah no it didn't premiere. They're just putting. The ads are everywhere. Now because Fox's pushing push because they used to win maybe three months ago I was all of my promoted tweets on my twitter are feed. Were like Lego will Arnett and it was like Lego masters coming sooner and I thought it was right. No it's well because he's on the Lego. He's in the lego movie. That's why I think he got it. Sure but also like. He's like Lego Batman Right. I mean that's also write these also like available you know will Arnett is not. He's in the movie to. There are a lot of other people in that movie. Oh my God and you know what else the show has going for it. I'm looking at photos of the set. It's home edit aesthetic. The entire show was homemade aesthetic. Static look at the photos of Legos like organized by color. They organize bipolar in clear. Shit I mean literally looks like I wouldn't be surprised if the home at all nautical back on what I said about the home edit but the only thing that can be organized by color and clear boxes ease legos. That makes sense to me. Like legos goes like can be or you can organize them like that. Did you see Brad Pitt. Won The BAFTA and he made another joke about being single. Brad you gotTA get new writers. This is just not interesting anymore but I guess that's what we love. We love the CATNIP of Brad. Pitt's we're like well we're he knows we're horny for him. This is his big moment. Like let him rock. You know it's fine. Did you see the photo of Angelina Jolie walking her dog recently. It was like all these photos all these things. Everything was Brad Pitt. Brad Pitt. And Jennifer Aniston Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston touching aunts. Brad Pitt Jennifer Aniston when he accepts another award for once in a pond two time in Hollywood once the once upon a time in Hollywood and then in the middle of all of this Angelina Jolie gets some prep press press coverage because she's out walking her dog and this is what the photo looks like. Let me see. Oh God can we move on to Rita to Rita data. was she wearing where wishy scene she posted. Why on Instagram? She's a WHO clean K.. Eh What's Rita Ora up to. Who is this woman? Okay what is Riva Up. What is read up to you? Yawned Rena or is on the cover love magazine. She's actually on the. This is actually a an issue that has many different covers not to me. Like not to reduce. Rita's you're reducing reducing reducing it but but the issue called chaos and control and there's so many different people on the cover of love magazine. Love magazine comes out place navy. One year must come out once a year. You're like I barely wants. This magazine is does not come out. That often comes out when people are like when people remember that love me love has no schedule has knows catch. Love love barely exists. It's clearly run like some rich person's dime they can release winnebago right. She doesn't look like herself solve. I gotta say this is a new look for Rita to quote aura. The new look crooner is wearing a new look. This is new. I mean it looks great. She she has a light go where they. They gave her a wig. I mean it's just like a whole luck. The lighting is good. It's golden hour in the desert so it's like to love you know what I love about. Love magazine is like they assume everyone knows everyone. Everyone just says Rita could just as Rita I mean we know who it is but like she she can do that. She could not miss wig. If you're looking at a love magazine Zine you know who Rita Ora s if you have access to a like if you're if you're in the UK and you have access to a love magazine reorts. It's true also on the different covers the most important. Then you die But what else was on it. Bella Day come on. She's Salma Hayek Wrath Law on my gun Sienna. Hannah Miller ever who's ever got who's ever I search. Ever get ever Lane Sean Ever Lane. I Love Rita's new tattoos. You mean you love Tzong Doc Zog. Because I didn't know what her mom called her dog. Her mom calls her dog. She got the word Zog Sie. Og tattooed under her ear. Her left ear just as Zog dog on her neck. Apparently that's hall's Zog. That's so cute as a kid. It means on her neck but she also got two little birds. She got two little baby birds on her arm. I get it the cute the little birds I would like the Tattoo. Lindsey just got a tattoo I tattoo ever away like this who it's big. Ju You would like this. You would like to for looks like it takes up the whole. Its Sir Conference of the or like with of the arm. I know after I got one tattoo like I'm attached to our love. Tattoos like tattoos or my passion. My culture now I need to get a tattoo. I love my two but I want another one now now that I'm passionate about tattoos. I'm just like always on lookout. I'm like what's that. What does this headline? I'm old amassing our Jonathan Kevin. Ross insists Natalie Cole. Gap was genuine mistake as he jokes. Fella Judge Rita Ora is quote like working with the Child. This is too much together. Basically this one of the Rita's cool. Will he thought he guest. One of the massacres was Natalie Cole. But she's dead so it couldn't be Natalie Cole so he was like the Natalie Cole and everyone's like whole doggone dead not alive but I do love this. Daily Daily Mail smushed together with calls reader or a child working with the child reader or is definitely the most professional person on that panel. Let's be fucking real. I WanNa want to hear. He's specifically just being ages because there's no way read or is not a professional. She's more professional than anyone on that show than Jonathan jobs than anyone. I know you don't get as many jobs as read aura unless you are good at those jobs. That's unless you are reliable. Okay that's I think that's I think maybe read Auras number one quality Elodie also. Do you want to know who the person who was revealed to be non Natalie Cole. No who was Oh right Khalil. Was Khalil talking about that because I was kind kind of surprised. That Kelly's was on the mass singer but maybe I'm not surprised. Police was on the mass singer. At this point I don't know the Messinger. UK by when asked singers fucking with my who's in them scale like it. Just it really like fuck with me you know. I'm just making sure that read aura. Hasn't done anything else since Last night. Let's look at our instagram really fast. And make sure this was posted. You really never now. It's a photo of her getting her glam on backstage at mass singer in in her like cute dress and it says at mass singer. UK Day six with guest judges. You don't WanNa miss the surprises semioli guesses so and she's still plugging away the massingir my favorite thing before we end this she. She also loves J.. Lo She instagram the super bowl halftime show which was cute women supporting women but a thing. That's really funny about this Massingir Rollout which is really great for Rita. Is that the way she's revealing this host thing. She's like messing day six day. Whatever they shot the show like ago? You're right they shut the whole thing thirty years ago in one week. It's been years right. It's been one hundred years since this was filmed and she is doing such a good job rolling this stuff out. You know like saving or her people are you know. That's another great thing about Rita. She's so good she's so she's on the ball. 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# 366 - Kyle Dunnigan & ME

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# 366 - Kyle Dunnigan & ME

"Can show him Buffalo Pittsburgh Two shows on the twentieth October Twenty Four Th Virginia Beach October Twenty Four for a second show at Virginia Beach on the twenty fifth at the lyric in Baltimore before we start the podcast body shots world tour is coming to this week Syracuse October eighteenth at the landmark theatre October nineteenth in buffalo nineteenth again for a second Addi Columbus Chicago Fort Wayne Fresno Reno Las Vegas Salt Lake City Cleveland you know the deal let's start the podcast I have social anxiety disorder and I don't like signing up for classes I get nervous I get anxious and I just don't do it but because you know aw I don't take is brand new podcast it's the beam in October we've ever done why 'cause I I think it's changing my DNA said that too much now surfing or the tactical firearms I did all of those I've had so much been welcomed into them so I haven't had the nerve Bert Kreischer who machine with a new found energy midway through sober October feeling fucking fantastic I'm telling you right now this is my favorite and say I would like to learn how to spearfish he teach me it's someone going like dude yeah I follow sober I'd love to do let's do it I it's been so much fucking aiming you listen to what I'm saying don't fucking really rise me listen to what I'm saying please that energy is where my brain goes do it all the time in worth it I'm not going to do it so I don't do like if I went into spin class they'd be like Sorry this is for like not fat is fuck people like if I wanted to do pilates go I'm sorry I don't I'm going to that is is the reason I don't even look into it and that that no no come on talk to Tom and he was like let's do a spear fishing trip all like off the coast Catalina like I would love to do that and I was like can you give you can do that off Cadillac I don't know but I have used the phrase it changes your cultural DNA when you go to a place like Vietnam vacation travel But yet is changing DNA tab bit in that I haven't I would never normally do that's Cranston now I am a person that goes I'M GONNA call and ask as opposed to someone who never did that six while you're doing a class say that to you now wait a mad I feel like sometimes like I think I told it to Tom where if I signed up for Surfing Class- that's what everybody has that about something and that is my point about how great this October it 'cause it's allowed that dialogue is shutdown okay good I've been allowing myself to do stuff I'd get there and the guy be like a Bro I don't teach grownups how to surf I teach kids the fuck you already grown up why are you asking to learn how to this isn't imagined thing that's where my brain goes because Joe's podcast is as big as it is and people know that that's what we're doing and and a lot of the classes that I'd like to sign up for our fans of Joe's spearfishing or Russian and on a certain level it's giving me permission to grow as an adult and I love it and I wanted to change my lifestyle I wanted to change my lifestyle and that I wanna go spearfishing herbs and at least I have like a default where I go it's my thing I'm doing classes as Mont as opposed to letting I told you this the other day were people were go you fucking and then got stuck in a framework of of say ten things I was socially acceptable allowed to do in my head you know I could definitely Dunblane like that's I'm afraid and by the way those people do fucking exist of course they do and and so afraid of that and getting a green light to be able to go out I I I've always said changes your cultural DNA when you go to places like Vietnam being sober no I'm confused and then now I'm cool going to hot yoga's in Chicago and just showing up as opposed to them I'm why are you wearing socks it's the inner dialogue and I I'm not jumping on your host into a comedy club I could definitely go into a bar I wasn't I could go to a hot spin I had a hard time going hot yoga until we signed up to do it you don't feel like I'm blaming you but that inner dialogue were you said that that is representative of how I've always felt and the fact this Tober is allowed me to shut down that inner dialogue finding qualified applicants so he switched to Ziprecruiter Ziprecruiter doesn't depend on candidates finding you it finds them for you it's technology identifies Eh see why Ziprecruiter is effective for businesses of all sizes trust Ziprecruiter for free at ziprecruiter dot com slash burke cast new director of coffee in just a few days with results like that it's no wonder four out of five employers who post on Ziprecruiter get a quality candidate within the first day when you use ziprecruiter the smartest way to hire right now to the podcast Kyle Dunnigan is absolutely who is it kile don again I've known since Since I first started comedy we started talking about that I think one of the first nights I ever this is ziprecruiter hiring can be a slow process cafe Torre Zeo dill ms quids needed to hire a director of Coffee Ganic Coffee Company but he's having a hard time and I know Tom has we did we did we've done a couple of classes together I think meantime before Tom goes to Europe Andrew to go with me it's just been great it's what I was trying to say is it's been great I'm glad it's been great today's podcast is a great one eight writer he's guys had like nineteen different lives and different asper all talk about him a little bit more when we get ready to guest today's podcast is brought to you by supply he also used recruiters candidate rating feature to filter his applicants so he could focus on the most relevant ones and that is how Dylan found is mazing dude just a guy that never brings drama when you run into him it's always fun it's always silly it's always goofy and just as a solid all-round guy the people with the right experience and invites ended apply to your job so you get qualified candidates Fast Dylan posted his job on Ziprecruiter and said he was impressed by how quickly he had great kid for a long time he blew his spot up to me and Rogan and Ram we all started replacing but man none of us found Kyle funnier than Joe Joe in my house is like a disaster here now okay cool we're not going to be much longer than that Joe's silly side is is is is such a part of his personality that I think sometimes not everyone sees they see the podcast but God dammit man log is very exhilarating and empowering I've really enjoyed this sub rock tober are thought a great deal we're GONNA try to do a couple together and I've been doing on the road with enforcing Ron and Shane and bill bill fucking Dave blessing to have in the comedy community more guys should fucking be like Kyle Dunnigan Oh yeah I think so why because he's a sweet dude that's ziprecruiter dot com slash Bart C. A. S. T. ziprecruiter dot com slash. Burt cast congratulations. But I just had to move a waterline funnier house five feet over so the dwp you can cut all this out Halston I I I I don't remember we did this podcast a little bit ago and I don't remember if I say this is I'm sure I should but I've always said Thomson has been a big Kyle Dunnigan fan we all went to dinner and we talked about holding deals and Kyle so fucking funny he's great on on instagram he really is and he's an amazing comedian these you nonstop that would drive me nuts I would love that people right next thing you're saying who admire may I would love that here's my went and watched comedy he was with Zach Galifianakis and and dammit who's he with John Bush eight hundred a month I think that's awesome guy we just looked at a house over just south of Moorpark great neighborhood you really are you really thinking about doing that I'm dealing away why would you never never in a million fucking years faulk home now give me a aw that's what you want things to happen for him that's great yeah and you're GonNa Love This Conversation Ladies and gentlemen without further Ado Kyle done again heil dug into his silly side and joe riposted all of his videos if if not all of them the majority of them and Joe Loves Kyle we all of Kyle Kyle is and distinguishing between an estimation in an estimation can be a little tricky Gina. Really I thought it was a good financial but it's Oh my God i would never do that a million fucking years I would never you rolling roll this is good stuff we the woman is an an an esthetician is that when you cleans people's faces out that was new drugs to pass out for surgery just have to dig it and then permanent pipe so it can I can I have my guys do they'll do it for in her box and there's just a monopoly six thousand two hundred dollars that's a good navy grew up poor good Halston and I mean he get a bit on the House on a thing but yet is not dinner about we're being you're gonna get emails now about an institition stuff is that how it works that'd be not interested in anyone there's a warlike guy who's super interested so they give me an estimate of six thousand two hundred dollars to move at five feet over it definitely get your guys do you guys on my guys do it you have yeah I mean I love and do that with products you do I love when it's like sometimes I'm so stupid used to have a joke about all the punch was there news man if you looked at my news like if it s the next the next shaming Oh yeah it's going to be they're going to pull up titian she's an S. tradition anesthesiology that's what she's a nasty that's a great rental unit right there I thought so but looking at prices it's not a big place three hundred and thirty square feet coming from inside my home I'm that stupid were like I go like how did they know I wanted fucking Nike SP's up in I'm definitely on the side of the DWP above your neighbor I wanna make sure I have watered to help your mind six thousand two hundred dollars in these doesn't have break you out a little bit though loving I love it would treadmills bills this is but then they do it with get today want to make sure it's good to have a guy come out and be a super supervise it okay what they're doing probably on the side of the DWP. I don't know how we're an hour but I just WanNa make sure then we didn't my garage right now you re doing your garage yeah it'd make it a rental not pasteurizing what's the thing when you put bubbles in something from Asian I get a lot of fermentation videos hey think that's about it this was going to happen someone's GonNa roll up like yeah I'm looking for a rental apartment the go cool you meet him you like him right there one day their friend comes over and like shut up something something alt-right which is embarrassing like so like all right propaganda video this one is Jordan Peterson debates that's a that's a lot of living in Russia they WANNA move at five feet have to build a garage on the driveway. Okay do you have the rental unit you need two spaces talk about that a lot I I'm from Google fermenting videos some fermenting commenting on a boat would be like your dream that yeah by fermenting on a boat you have no idea like what like if they could pull up all like show this is what burke risers feed looks like yeah that's the thing they're going to have all this information album and I was telling your producer what's your name Sir I didn't get it doesn't matter to be Mad Halston Halston I know right so white privilege e as real as a hillside or ordinances where do you live in La like give me a ride lived close I live across from Universal Studios in the hills right across okay that's not what's that no no no hey siri what's an estimation nothing youtube is to show you stuff that makes you happy yeah either that or it's a mix up but like obviously I'm not I'm not alright but it's always something like Russell Brand's politics that comes up on your Youtube Yeah I guess I you know you know how they say that like the Algorithm facebook is to make you angry retested this because I was out I talked to somebody we're talking about like shakes and then I was getting e mails about nutrition shakes the no sorry about tm Transall Meditation and and the next thing I got three emails about transportation I love when they do that I wish I didn't do that with news like I don't know nine close this is what it's always Rogan it's always Rogan is like my number one thing it's about if I was on a boat I've I've dreamed about living on a boat I would love to live on a boat yeah it's the number one thing I played tennis for this older guy and he said to me made probably knocks out ANTIFA supporter is it working on you do you feel you are you get Hukou stop watching him this one's tail Sunan it's anything about freaks meals I go on youtube says recommended videos for you and it's all like fat people falling down an airplane crash minority oh that's the kind of person in our boat launch videos Oh is it yeah the Auburn Faith facebook and twitter is to show stuff in your feed that gets you outraged because you'll tweet about outrageous ship interesting I think story house because I mean how much longer we're GONNA be able to work those stairs we're getting older with can you imagine dating a woman that said stuff like that on a date on the no memory that Yup John had just gotten a development deal yes I just talked to John Bush today ZAC invited me to his hotel at it was right on Gramercy Park in yeah and I was like in my head I was like okay so that's that's that's the the lane getting that lane be super talented be- Such an interesting interesting guide to me that I liked I didn't think anyone would ever get it yeah like I remember I remember when you guys were probably there everyone was in there watching something and I I got high with him and he took me through a very elaborate tour of his hotel room yeah the only way only the way that that has no fucking interesting getting about my wife is so goddamn depressing sometimes she said to me that we don't really we're looking at houses we don't WanNa no I live alone and I think I wouldn't be found for a week for really liberal there where did you grow up Connecticut okay it makes sense where do we meet New York do you remember are you and your wife have similar retirement goals because it because if you don't get divorced really I was like what's your wife's retirement golden spent time the grandkids I said was you're right he had just gotten development deal I don't know if you really yes you know the development deal they offered fifty grand and his agent was so new she was like I'll take ody's funeral but he he was so I guess he doesn't drink much anymore at all and he was just like Hey Bird Zach Zach the fuck you are I was I also tend to be with everyone else I can't remember this dinner at all Yup John Bush paid wait a minute John Lewis paid because yes you too excited I was I saw a Zaka the funeral to we had this awkward three-person hug with this girl that cheated on me with in an can I show you what I love about this hotel knows like yeah and we took on a very detailed tour of that room it was like a two bedroom room yeah and number one thing he showed did this now when I got into the business and saw the business I was like wow kaslow's a little bit of an outlier because you are a different you aren't a mainstream comic you know I feel like when I know why this happened but I started trying to do the right thing whatever reason I was a person who is just scared like what do I need to do as opposed to what am I good at and not to bring Zac but I remember talking to him and he didn't even want a was there was a bottle opener in the bathroom and you're thinking Oh this is too much no I was like I would so much rather be on a guided tour this Odell rooms fist fights both what a fucking idea just getting a boat into the water up boats I I'm a I like I'm really into boats I guess do you have about note what I was just trying to get rid of the guitar and get don't do impressions I was a more of a Dan Karbi kind of performer imagined I see John and he said why don't say hello I seem fairly often when I'm on the road because he's Minnesota Still Iowa I wanNA see team in Iowa John You and Jon Bush I don't remember meeting you do me you John Bush Zach Alvin Akkas went to dinner with ago a woman named Betsy Reeves but to do a Sitcom I thought he was lying to me and just trying to protect himself he just knew what he did well and he did that and that's powerful personable you guys were both both very funny at dinner and I remember thinking Zakho Pine never make it he's too unique and Zach Hey not to defend her and go to like that she's being practical and thing have you can get the chair that takes up the stairs all in the tub things that could have done what is the just odors actors very practical Zack. He's you know he's just I'm not by the way I barely know Zack at all anymore ran into the three of us were just really and I think she said like this is awkward or something like that but how did you like you are I was always one like what everyone's telling me where did you start doing stand up in New York the Comic Strips Lucien hated me he did I sat down with him in I wanna say we hours and then tell you you didn't pass which is Kinda Cruel but this guy was in there for hours and she came out crying and he what he said to her what you know it's like it's so funny now because I think a lot of us a steph especially myself I would never have talked about my dad back then because I was very much like don't try any humor about my parents yeah funding comical about them I was like yeah I didn't either but I kept trying this is how you have to do it yeah you bet you'll you'll work more of your fatter and she went to a party that night and she was in the kitchen next to this woman stuffing fucking face and my wife said were you could double the door yeah I've seen that top of the door I wouldn't mind one of those I think it's a solid idea most people die in the bathtub number watching guys set up their lives for a Sitcom and I was being and I'd be like oh I've definitely not that guy I don't I I didn't have it Kim believes that and the woman was like oh I heard the same idea same advice I'm just gaining weight that woman was Melissa McCarthy in a carvey trying to do it just the wrong thing for me I think that I got stuck there for a while just recently started doing more things that I do better than Ptarmigan he goes get my Dick Sucked by young on a boat and I was like I guess there's don't match up we got a divorce are you into getting a boat for my wife he live Kyle Duncan he's like the master of Instagram Oh no I'm not aware that this was a robin you know it's due to fuck in fact that people would leverage Oh that's the same guy that discovered you know Kevin Hart so yeah you can delusion like you yeah he actually and then I went back to audition for him and he wasn't there and so I went home and I was in my apartment for months just trying to be an actor which never would have happened and the door the door I tried to explain the door what we took fucking and you know what I like when you're you have it in your brain but the words aren't there standards without him I wouldn't be doing anything real is done And whatever show business and I had gone there I edition I got passed up to him having a wine a tiny tiny tiny room I thought it was a closet I it's the seismic closets it's uncomfortable and he told me I didn't have it and that I should hope he was very to the point someone told my wife that someone told my wife that and at one one night my wife would be will Kevin Hart he'll never make it and I don't know I do not see Kevin Hart's Talent is pretty obvious right away right away when Kevin Hart started yeah I was I remember back to get a deal talk about your family and that's just not set up a set of premise to a Sitcom yeah my dad's a Kinda Guy Oh quits yeah he made a lot of cry I saw more than one person come out of there crying one girl you hear this story heavy set went in there and we'll talk to you for has well you could gain another you can lose weight or you could gain another twenty five pounds make a real spectacle of yourself yeah yeah he yeah he won the big movie stars of our yeah and he was like hey good senior man had the circumstances young Zach was like my wife was at a party with Melissa garbage like fuck it fuck it yeah that sounds like the best and then even when you hear that if you WanNa work if that's what you're dreaming the Faulk but yeah Lucien told me I didn't have it and I should just go back to Florida Pierre we told a lot of great comics I think he told a two shows the twenty six Montclair New Jersey for two shows on the twenty seventh for Huntington New York for two shows at Sunday and then Cincinnati like changing your look like we have send you out in different and I was like wait I'm I'm still the same I'm like wait am I I'm not attractive get it was negotiating didn't confer with him really yeah they would have given a hundred they offer you fifty we'll go back and forth to one twenty maybe you're telling this story because I'll fuck it up someone told my wife okay either got to lose a lot of weight or gains a lot of ways like right in the middle like you're you're like the cute friend your dream isn't like I remember losing weight and and I I did I I then got healthy and lost weight and I was like you know someone's like okay he was gone so fast in New York for a month and a half and then all of a sudden he was in l. a. doing he's the guy who luckily the woman who gave John The deal she ended up being an agent Zoltan back together she was the receptionist they're called and said he's in today he never looked your tape you might as well on Monday if you can so if she called me I would be doing something else and Lucien looked like so that people can put this in perspective this is my recollection by the way my record oh that's cool mine was mine was in a church that my wife's grandfather owned across like across the street and Church Oh yeah I felt like churches our own thought they were just in the south like in small small towns someone's gotta buy that like build a church they make money off it no no no away with estee loosen yeah Lucien in in my recollection looked like the guy from from what is that I wouldn't walk my daughter's down the aisle that's like the only thing Oh yeah that's so fun though now anyway it's like okay what's a straight wedding life there they find no I think a lot of people go have these work mine was a fucking blast I purpose and it's maybe one of the worst things to get your body just starts to harden so he would just start losing fingers and awful yeah I don't know I don't know genetic googling that's knife take half zanex ringing emails about Scleroderma how's your have you ever had health concerns eighteen wow yeah they're in it Oh oh yeah my daughter had three girls fifteen year old girls in the pool last night and they were just who live but with a ponytail not as hair down yeah he he's kind of like a double seams European yeah he's taller tall skinny you just hardened stiffened from the inside of his face got very tight it's one of the worst things to get holy is that her just hereditary travel the world fucking nine times around I did accomplish more my stand up here than I ever thought I'd accomplished you had a family a family I got I've been the only thing that will make people sad has low who lived downstairs in the living in the closet now can you just pull up what real genius I remember Lucien looking like Laszlo from the as the the happen it doesn't happen no one's going to mourn for me at my funeral in the sense that they'll go like dude he did it all that's true some travel channel for nine years sunset strip trying to buy drugs put an uber or wish I I sometimes at night bird get high but I at night kids until he was like forty seven yeah I could be very inaccurate on both of those names yeah by appreciate that Mike Bullshit and and talking about boys that Saas walking back and forth and they're like where are you going and I was like I'm going to the store Georgia's like hey can we go with you and like just hang out as long hair thinning yes we got very sick you know that towards the end I did like Scleroderma Scott was that it's a sister form of why get married though yeah but I don't think they do like the traditional do they never been you've been to a gay wedding I've only been together into Hollywood like they've never been into Hollywood by themselves and then it sounds like a good thing to take them the first time line adults I thought about it for a second yeah I know there are many pass me and he came up to me and he was like listen buddy I like NPR Musavi right there are many never had an accent and I was like oh it's funny I remember him with an accent like we don't live long enough June I mean I need another ten years to really think about this about kids yeah and I don't have that time I think he'd be such undeb I I do like my nieces and nephews allott nephew but I gotta find the right person 'cause I can't I'm not going the movie Val kilmer and then where genius genius Oh yes I don't remember that movie while Okay I always think I'm GonNa die but now I'm fine do you always always think you're going to die because I literally offended I e Yes but now at age from Finland glad a good run gray and everything was good but there was like a a little bit of a entrust me I'm very trustworthy I can imagine eight the edibles it helps me sleep really debris panic no I used to I think he got a real tolerance but when I'm high that Boulevard knows like now not at a fucking all you're not going boulevard at midnight that was nice they wanted to hang alley though they just wanted to go into this they were like we've never been John Bill you just build a church and then my grandfather her grandfather went to school not Church and then they were GONNA at one point tear down he bought it and renovated it so that they can have church go word anymore and I can't imagine you not being trustworthy like you're not not not not very faithful guy if you look at the Leah I can be a girl going pat is all Baptist church is really amazing I was one of the funder nights in my life how old are your kids know thirteen I'm not comfortable way right I'm going out at night and I mean there's after shows this is not the P. Fast then I thought you know sometimes at the store things off the rails like you'll be there and all of a sudden like Oh take into the store yeah defense your work well they were they weren't going adopt a child and have you ever been in love with someone enough where you're like I would wanna make a kid with this person I got are alleged maybe a year ago almost exactly and she moved it almost always think I should get a family my high I think you'll ever have a family I you know what I know it's running late in my life but it's not late what are your king week every day and and and and Joe and Tom were the first ones to be back and forth like this is fucking genius I had I had known coming after me all I bet there is but you're not the guy I levitating okay I'd like to think that I think yeah I think I guarantee you there are a does videos it's funny people have different those videos make me laugh so fucking hard chicken but I din four days later we broke up but I thought we were going to have a fam- how did that happen so quickly will you just not compatible to lift well I'll tell you this she was so yeah and so I've known of your crib the entire time always follow you on instagram so when I saw the videos I was like already watched these Joe and Tom are finding them at the same time I'm not saying that Joe didn't like discovery on his own I will say that Tom Sequeira texted me Joe and Ari videos of you for a solid there's been in love with you for a very long time really oh yes agoura turned us onto you I'm saved my I was literally dead in the water six forty eight forty eight I are you fucking than sh- Moore didn't have kids until he was fifty who bore bill burr continue for my entire career literally before I was doing stand up is when I met you I've been aware of you even when you didn't know me and I've been following your career regardless mostly because back where I can say that a little bit yeah this tragic tragic in your thirties it's like he was so young the Ford is like well you know a cigarette I mean loves you thanked him but I I need to double double down because he really did I was no one was seeing my videos until of sucking videos your impression videos are good they're not as good as fucking co is it not kyle Craig Crag Tom and Joe were like Oh my God this is the funniest human being ever and that I'm telling you if you ever going to give someone a hug give it video yes it is good you do them when you go back to Connecticut I don't go back much so I try to make sure I get one so I know she's she's good I am I would argue she's the funniest part of the video better than it is she is so fucking good at her I don't know if their natural reactions they are I kind of that's Rogan yes because a rugged you know what you know that really is not to take credit away from Rogan you know what that really is right now the girl I was I love that character but when that character showed up on Instagram I was dying I was I could I would go onto your video ah certain points of my career you live with Chris Fairbanks I worked with Chris Live with tag I loved I loved Ig Tig I had a connections we did premium blend together the whole you know talk about your family and it was just when I saw the face swap I was like oh I could do these that that reignited that trump which is I didn't even I never even knew you're that good of an impressionist to be honest I didn't do impression I did them when I was younger and I got sort of I was yeah I I don't I look at the audience they seem very young to me now used to be the little more the people in the club or like in their mid twenties early doing my age I feel like a lot of Bros. come to my show so fucking in disturbance sometimes when you're at the store like Ron Wyden will be like throwing a party at my house now everyone let's go you always want to be like I want to be able to do that I don't WanNa be like oh I got three fucking kids yeah news and I would just scroll I mean year a year back two years back yeah there's a funniest goddamn videos thank you is that your real mom it if I can get one good impression yeah I can always make sure I'll kill because I remember like DC. Benny had an impressive wouldn't even impression he's like this is my impression of an Italian laughed so fucking hard and that character's been around for I've been doing since I've been like I I don't remember not doing that that character has been around forever and I've Been Electra of women that would love to sleep with you but but you don't you've never in my opinion come off as a guy that's like like when the me too thing happened I I can't imagine that you were like looking good one Jeff Goldblum and Jeff I mean you're so accurate when you do an impression is it just like it comes to you and then you go oh I can do that what kind of throwing something but yeah I always find it just there's not much as many ways to get into it there's the you know Roland those are the funniest fucking videos. Thank you those I like but that's my sense of humor is like I don't know ordered and I was I could never do see I find it really hard to get him into my stand up it feels so forced I've done it and in the middle of a story the bills are Bill Maher's good they speak in like a four note range basically if you could hit that range and then they place it some people are like in their no tonight and I I have you gotta be able to hear how some don't have an ear for it so if you can really I wanted to be cool when I was like twelve and I got I thought of it's kind of like a clown I didn't pressure the teachers and stuff like that and like Michael Abbott I don't give her lines because when you give her lines yes to sound like more but she naturally would yell at me like that very visit the chicken but where you kept going mom they can do in practice a couple of years when I started doing again it's so good I mean you do trump you do all the crashes you Ray Liotta rarely odors those are my two impressions but so when you say four note range like how like what do you mean like Well I am very I like musical guess what the mom that I shot when she's in the kitchen she dino's filming you remember that but but yeah she's very nasty one be off to think about or do you work out at times I hear someone talk and think oh I could probably do that if they had the same tone like Bill Maher with a similar A I wish I remember the exact airport there was a guy that was so fascinating the way he spoke and the way he has personal broken you know I've tried no really cannot he has a very high hard tone that's really hard to get Jackson stuff like that and I just stopped doing it because I felt like that was make kids you drink cool and then the whole thing with doing stand up dude going like yeah I do that if I if I'm talking to some not even realizing that mimicking them incidents offensive to do that could you do so he had to say you know do more of these and then we'll the Kardashians are yeah crash goal what are the price of impression did you do Asu more about the ear of hearing the impression yeah people who do impressions well have a good are usually good musically because they can hear interest in notes of the person I voice easiest one come up with Bill Maher's like really close to my voice Bill Maher paypal it's just like right in my race there yeah I've I've done impressions of people only because there's so there's a guy here's my impression of the only person I ever had was a vibrator and will okay that's really fucking great caitlyn actually is pretty lows I don't even know what she sounds like she should I can't maybe I've been around a lot of homosexuals in my life I mean tag and intonations of what he found important that I couldn't I wanted to tape record him so I could always listen to him and I found myself doing an impression of him to him AH I haven't tried to really work on it and sometimes I can get there like Jeff Goldblum Ida Kinda working a little bit but he's I don't know if I could ever get ought you're pretty well though like like do you think your Whoa Kness came naturally you think you're always awoke person I'm in about politics or anything she's someone that would if you if you said something off on stage I is that accurate they haven't seen her girlfriend is she also trans the girlfriend fucking hope not 'cause yeah definitely attracted to her yeah yeah she talks answers herself she did as a dude yeah she she actually I actually has aged a lot less than I don't know if that I had our mistake demy and should scars and bandages still and she was blowing up right at that moment so she was getting huge checks force envision this party scene of you guys just now Vakhin loose amy was gone all the time yeah we can she would leave and do shows and stuff IOS and some are explained to me so people talking to four no range what do you mean you're going I would love like when I first got into comedy Integra just yeah we'd hang out and until so long ago does it really at this isn't I just saw my life in this writing track and that's not why even a great job I was thankful for that when you live with tag we she his tickets I've always found tig to be someone who is I never found her to be someone super aggressive in your face four months oh I thought you and her I thought you guys all live together for like not who is a first season inside Amy Schumer really there in New York yeah I feel I can look back on my life it's like I really lived it there's a Lotta years that that have stacked up when did you start writing meaning we were never writing partners but we would hang out and writes we wrote a couple of things but we never sold anything or take no I didn't know that sometimes a logical think she's mad at them which is not very quiet yeah when I when I introduced more fun all positive all positive no negative in this but what are they creatively watching working with two of the biggest women in entertainment are I'm not hiding you them literally trying to search my brain correct answer who show I wrote the first season Oh really got from aim is and then I went to that and I just saw my track and I just was like no I want to perform so much ah shut up say I thought you fairbanks all lived in like but I would I did spend a lot of time over there but we didn't want her writing partners at the time was in your opinion who is more hands on amy was more hands on but it might be because Sarah's a new I would always tell me you might think she doesn't like you but you just have to wait a minute did you did you grow a lot living with tig I mean we only live with each other for I think riding on Sarah Silverman show and I got I would call it a midlife crisis because I suddenly it was like I gotta get Outta here all worked on inside amy yeah me Amen Tig live together into a buck bunk bed in a room is weird and we were adults and she she's just Kinda tongue-in-cheek more plastic surgery but that's just the makeup you get to wear Oh yeah I bet he got close you'd see the she's about seventy s and J. Really I dr were you looking at and I was like I wanna be I couldn't even do yeah couldn't even do that or like this is my impression a Robert Deniro anyone that had one of those they always in the mail for like three hundred thousand dollars whatever and she's living this tiny room which is funny this is weird that's created to doesn't drink room was like upstairs down the hall and we had a writer's room whereas the Amy Schumer is writer's room was we're all just together in a ruse Amy's first project and she does amy drink I knew I don't know why I said out loud and do you drink now I'm not a lot now just I'm trying to I'm trying to I've seen him as he I was I did definitely feel frustrated in a writer's room just because I want I want to perform more fun and I was actually meaning like when did when was the first time I was like man you know you'd be great riding on the show 'cause I got to be really honest I always fell anytime you wrote was a disservice all your talents because I I think you're I think you're an amazing writer to obviously I when you got found on instagram by everyone was like died it's always been it all positive let me say the differences WHO This is a tough question I'm definitely going Sarah would love Sarah Silverman in my life because amy's already has a child Oh oh yeah I told you? OCD Medicine is that whatever my OCD is and I have it probably an ad budget different ways one of the way manifest itself is in obsessing about a bit is that right the first thing yeah yeah yeah different type of show you know if you had to get one of them pregnant on accident okay okay idea also impressions I'll work on something and and sort of wake up and I'll be able to do it when I wake up I just I just told Dr Drew The reason I won't take because I feel like I I write sketch stuff and there was a little political I just my brain doesn't does your brain when like how does your brain ah like yeah like there's this had this bit I write I write most naturally story like naturally it is a I wanted to I had to leave slap that job and that's when I started doing instagram stuff you're writing for Sarah's over Michelle Nell the Hulu most naturally right comedy is it like especially stand up like do you stand up his tough I don't know why have a much easier time thinking in terms of scenes it's not out loud like a Weirdo but I'll I'll let my subconscious take care of it and I'll usually wake up with like a more solid arguably in comedy yeah what is the differences you see creatively in the way Sarah Creates Verbs Amy all positive not talking Shit Joe everyone has no talking Shit St everything's a story yeah that's my brain sees everything I think I would've made a great I think I would have made a phenomenal is by better so no I've never had to use woman vibrator either I'm doing that in Brazil in that one that went and my dick out of her an orgasm and it was just me bobbing and But Kid can you slide her these jokes on working on them up real quick yeah I do not feel like I served her show well really and and sketch but I'll feel like ooh there's something funny here with this and then I'll go to bed and ask my subconscious com writer yeah and I think I would have made a good Sitcom star in that delays around I think it's a little ship sailed for four camera multi Cam I can't see reese company is terrible it was the number one show and it's horrible you could I really feel like we sit down and write a three's company episode in an hour Those embodies was like the quintessential crazy premise address like women men. Yeah I like that show you couldn't do puzzle buddies now Tom Hanks's good though he was good os your favorite Tom Hanks movie well this is a no brainer I loved bosom buddies I was envisioned that would be some that I will get into some like that they only ran two seasons are you serious yeah but you'd see how that would run actions are always there I remember telling Pecorella story about manny from the seller yeah many many past I and even Gabes Games was good but it was like it was lacking something it was like it was like for some reason the multi cam just wasn't it wasn't popping the way Gabe just redid it oh they did and it was and by the way Fr- I have friends that were in it but just objective was so tough to watch bad it was Dr O. Easily and no one would notice the difference what a what an interesting premise he has to pretend to be gay to live with these girls got it would be an unwanted baby you're that yeah very cool you're gonNA wife okay she's GonNa come by on weekends the raiders are now forty episodes of them almost getting caught as women as exhausting you gave are we talking about here really I didn't see his I'll tell you the one day at a time in the seventies was terrible as well POPs yeah you know where you're like what Gaber we talking about Israel earlier this conversation uh what we were forced to watch these things like these are good there's four shows that's all you did multi cameras just simply lack of options that's why we like yes now I don't I mean like Gabe just did one well did you see one day at a time like in the seventies is not we've got the insider that only fucking joke I wanNA WANNA WANNA WANNA WANNA auto or will will will will never had in Mr Rogers looks good why that's he's in Mr Rogers it's a new movie oh yeah it looks awful forrest gump over real wait a minute no I don't want to jump into this yet castaway castaway is a pretty amazing hollow thirteen Wrigley since last movie right Jackie gleason did did he's been in a lot of fucking ass I'm forgetting one you're getting a guarantee big big big the best green mile I tell you I like I really liked certain scenes as a whole I wou I didn't really get into this story road to perdition Paul Newman was in that yeah do you know but I dated a girl who was from her dad was good friends with them you James Naughton his funny you think that they would be I think Paul no it'd be like I'm Paul Newman everything's good nothing in common was Jackie May Jackie The terminal I mean what a great Philadelphia I'm going with big Jane Place you bet and they all pull chickens up I don't remember that Oh I this is the new Mister Rogers C. Miss Thomas Neurology Cheers Dundee look like him yeah Marilyn Manson's named after they're like no really they had no I love goes it's over and I went yeah she goes that's I think I've seen volunteers is one of my favorite movies Oh yeah I live with John Candy they're all playing cards and these gentlemen Broadway actor guy and they did clap Naji I live down the street and their friends who lived in Westport Connecticut and he thought he was terrible in that was he showed at this House the documentary yes you did nor didn't you didn't see that Mr Rogers documentary really good really yeah does it was Mr Rogers Gay Day never now they never really say this in this one the trailer he's a cam doing an expose on Mr Rogers and his girlfriend guesses laying in bed with him as she goes don't you ruined my childhood Sharon Tate what those like we Manson's family is no Marilyn Manson I go he's catch me if you can you've got mail angels and demons sleepless in Seattle inferno male with sleepless in Seattle part two yeah I liked it and I want to see it again didn't get into the story until the last ten minute yeah the last an expert by the way the movie is completely lost on a thirty it was like self deprecating and he was talking about how they never pay him money like everyone is just miserable hangs you know the in fifteen year old who are unaware of the murders I write these look like this why were they in this like so into the expose guy he's exposes Roger's guarantees like Get to the bottom of who this creep is yeah I don't know yeah that's weird I must be so confusing so confusing if you don't new the message so eight best Tom Best Tom Hanks be waiting I'm GONNA pull them up associate he was really good it was very summer he passer party does not translate I know not the name named Yeah it drives people nuts I do that and I I have to apologize a lot living by yourself now I know it's weird living by yourself you know at this very sidebar but I think I'm going to share it 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Doug goes gridlock and sweatpants and they're not sweatpants dad there I know that I can put that down and go now I can rely I gotta add that we're I look at life and I go I go with I'm not living my life the town more excited than the rocks masseuse like like try to write an analysis yeah yeah that I can and then I'll go from there and I'll try to find like more excited the plan I know there are there are rare breed though Demetri Martin Very John Mullany guys who they liked homework though and I'll cut out the chunks yeah and then a work on chunk chunk shall I go so I can this set like I'll tell you where my working launch like I'm very lazy as a writer and I'll just give you the first job I come up with yeah go oh I should go to the second joke and so I'm a really really the cars and I'll try to riff on it one of my favorite I would never have said this when he was alive as much but in passing go home and you just handed on Thursday it was that would once it came down to the sketches then we'd all get together and sort of punch up but it was uh you know it's like a list of this category awesome putting them in different folders so do you do you ride on stage do you right yeah a little bit three or four comedians got together in a pack and they all just were like we're going to be the greatest we're going to film all of us we're GONNA film and we're going to analyse idiom Dick's ladies you don't want Joe you don't want some big Dick leaving your pussy lips looking like a Horse's lips report sugar cube just aren't and and I think that's how I would I think I would really operate well with the writers room because I think I could come up with my premise but then to have writers go through and help me punch it up would be it was an easy process we go on Monday and he'd pitched three ideas basic patuone line pitch and go okay right that one up for Thursday were sit down and watch it magin that doing five cents a week and having a team and you're all just being honest and critical I think that's it heap you there and they think the long that you're there the better the show obey you got about three hours of comedy writing a day you can stomach and in writing about so then I'll go I gotta go play off hit golf balls I gotta go I'm GonNa I'm GonNA drink tonight I'm GONNA have people over in and that is important they have I mean is I get very territorial of what I say and I wanted to be my words yeah like I only because I go I go stand ups yeah I mean obviously that's not the art form of standup yeah he's a cheat code I think it works for TV show but if you're doing straight standup you can't really sell help like little bit like like this is a really bad example Santa's a little bit like cage fighting or ice skating in that you're showing being more stupid and then what I'll do is I'll shelve that in my head and then I'll look through life for times that good idea a lot of meat a lot of me writing them your your skill set yes this is my skill set this isn't my team skill set but I would say this year right but for me I have blind spots new right for when you wrote wrote like say just say amy show 'cause I think that's more sketches in what your brain does did you come in with like nine sketches you had fucking funny Shane Tours doesn't he's given me one or two tags in my in since I've known him but more importantly games like that help them up stuff I'm not certain but I spread it around anyway I was always told amy this is what I was told was that before she would spins right yeah and then once I get all those stories then and there's one I'm doing starting in September I will take that first chunk right and I'll go oh that can be a ton more getting back to amy's writer's room we were not there a lot they send us homeless live our lives I think they got better sketches out of that and because boast writers from the break think liked homework the s did they both did very well I think their brains were like I'm not comfortable Muss I've written nineteen pages of work is that right now on this set I once I got a story up it's like plate spinning yeah then I go Castro he's working time do the next so that I can get a full hour of at least everything the falcons aches that's a long way to get to that joke right I let no mother tongue stakes Blaine good length to get there in but like isn't helpful to have someone go hey bert talk about this more this is your lane 'cause I can't you know I sometimes can't see God did you when I the first year the first year did yeah I had a few maybe like five that I had just in my computer but it like a buddy giving you a tag and going like what about this and you're like Oh yeah a lot of times I'll just walk away from them there's only like three people take tags from in this world yeah and it King I almost started a story last night that I do not I do not believe I believe that the only premise of the story that's good and then you go all right that works I'm trying to do more because it's really important oh it's great when something quick something quaint if you're not dealing oh I think that's hard I think that's Chris Rock I think I think I'm not by the way are the them I would yeah I think they're writing team like I lost my dad which is an interesting thing for a kid to say I lost my dad I'm like okay and he goes I said well what's Your Dad's name he says I said what's your name go ahead I'm like his kid must be really traumat- ties right so I go I take you through the prayed screaming at the top of my lungs the joke there and you'd be like Oh yeah yeah I'm not a great joke writer I don't think I can think of a quick I can think of more now that I'm getting older I can think of the only premises good is I believe the reveal is this kid I found this kid a fourth of July for July parade this kid comes towards me I'm not telling you the story of trying to punch it up I'm telling you the part I believe that's good hey it's kids walking towards me he's crying now as a parent I just definitely like not until the job's done for months ago I shouldn't be talking about that that was a waste of Shane Torres Torres now you'd love him he's so get ready to do a special door she'd fly all her friends to Hawaiian they'd had writing sessions but I think I do remember something like I would love to do that to that problem he says I said Okay Bye they bleed both of their names because it's a real story I said and he's still can't find that I wash what's your mom's name he goes I don't know a a wagon full of kids his age that he knows that he goes to school with one of the dads goes is he lost and I'm like no asshole we're looking for even the kids getting a little fees I gave Tyler back-row Anyway got up punches yeah now I can come up with them but then punches they're just like statements that I believe or had happened to me that are ridiculous over to friends and then I was like it'll work and last night I started it Noah Noah stories are hard I was the store long story and there's a lot more in it yeah is I find the kid finds its fourth of July finds a the ones that coming out He looks just like Mr Rogers really I just saw the trailer in once upon a time a Hollywood did you see once upon a time in Hollywood yes hough like I'll get to a place to a joke or something like that does not working and he'll say stuff like yeah maybe should right like a couple of jokes in that story right there in the joke in maybe the I definitely gonNA solve this situation I'm not GonNa yes I see people walking past what the fuck wrong you imagine if that's your kid right so stop him I go hey buddy are you okay didn't I started and I realized I couldn't get out of it I couldn't just stop it so I thought maybe if I keep plowing they'll get on my side and it was the wrong story to tell well you got another joke right they're all stuck in a story they're not feeling it it's like oh I got another minute of this and you're here we go minute I got I'm screaming through yeah what the Fuck is Lost Goes Owes Dad's right over there I went okay so go the movie broke which never happens I couldn't find my phone at trout talk to her for a second and get my phone then I got a text from her and this is the last two weeks ago and it's a Saturday night you don't want to try a new story but I thought I'm just gonNA I got push myself if it feels right a slide and then I realized he's holding hands with the Dude my dad's Oh like argo frustrated now I go he's lost and by the way is so upset he doesn't know his mom owned mom's name and he goes he's never met his cutlass down I was at a movie theater with my friend I sat and see this girl came up sick you're in your my seat and I was like Oh sorry she'll familiar I sat in front of her my see was directly in front of her the story so awful and it only makes me look horrible and peeling ooh but I'll onsang like way too much even that somebody's GonNa be like hey you know this too much you're that just to sort of guide I don't think there's wrong with someone I don't think there's anything wrong has no he's not on once again I'm like none of that's right you got me this has been an elaborate prank I just wanted to see if I get you to come with me like no he's definitely lost he has no he's not he's Eh that kid not knowing what his mom's name me don't give up on this story you just gotTa go get back I gotta figure I gotTa figure it out there but it just it was so funny and so then I kept telling over the trump sitting here going like he's not dropping he'd never met his mom that's funny and so that that's the only part when we're talking about writing jokes that's the part for me is there is there and this guy goes I do I do I lost I don't know it's her it I don't my glasses I just see her name and then there's so much down so I turn to my friend end and I go this is an awful I I brought this up to tell you I don't ever tell the story again not even bombed people get my friend and I go oh my God I remember the movies broken it is silent ago I just got a text from this fucking pig in Chicago how do I reply to this how do I Dan okay maybe I'll this is probably a good does a good writing session this is an awesome fucking story this is this is my favorite part of hearing stories because I know where I want it to go I would love to hear this so can tell your story to you mcgirt from Chicago his mind those are going Chicago that I had sex with years ago so I turned to my friend and I say this is and says hey you're in the wrong seat I have to explain no actually this is h that's G and we all get a little bit of a laugh in it yeah movies about to start and I realize I love this turbine I'm telling you I told it to not only dead silence but then groans and I I lost the crowd for my set was it's it's now she's hearing me talk seeing again and she recognizes me I still didn't recognize her thoughts look familiar so I got a text deceit three hundred fifty seats I sat and I hadn't heard seat and I look at it go fuck I'm in H I'm sitting in g literally now move directly in front of her now I'm directly in front of the one person I sat her seat her date shows us tell this way better than the same time my friend shows up literally my Lavar 'cause they thought I was a jerk ed sorry I go to the movies with my my best friend he calls me hey we gotta go see once upon a time Hollywood definitely and you know what's the movie breaks I'm such a fucking Tech Junkie I immediately look at my phone does Yvonne Tax and I do I got this random text chick I fucked in Chicago it's rate fucking story I'm GonNa hit pause can I tell you where I wanted to go yeah I tell you I wanted to go yeah maybe that's what I'll do this and I turned to the group behind us I go get attacked and as I say that the girl goes it was me wait is that I already love this story what I love about a story is a is a Kaiser Sosa moment like a like a like a this is a kaiser says a moment Haga Lives in Chicago he lives in Chicago and she'd text me like hey what are you doing i WanNa meet up and I'll relate okay okay wait wait wait hold and so I looked my friend who's hard of hearing her asshole wreaked and then her asshole wreaked and then also theaters there's no one in the movie theater and I sit down and I sit down and wait for my buddy comeback popcorn and his girl comes up because you're sitting in my seat there's no one in the fucking movie theater eight hundred the actual texts but I'm like this girl lives in Chicago she's texted me so I turned to my friend and I say sword this girl on May read this tax from this stinky Ashville girl and it says I'm sitting right behind you awesome in front of it there's no one else movie theater it's friend right behind you her and her lies eight seem to date and so you realize your phone is missing all the blood left my body I turned around and he can't imagine oh the feeling this is a fucking amazing story that would happen I wish that happened tell me what happened though I wish I love this guy I didn't have my glasses so I just saw her name I couldn't read yeah yeah he's on a fucking date and I'm like what if this is meant to be what anyway literally in the middle of the movie the movie breaks what are the fucking on's that a movie breaks watching the reaction I mean she was I'm sure searing to see if I would light up so we have this awful interaction and I wanted to leave right away and I'm like possible she didn't hear me there's no way friend yelling but she's texting me like so small and she's looking at the back of my head so for two hours and watch this movie in complete uncomfortable awfulness that I fucked in Chicago just text me movies broken it's dead silent girl I just fucked Kogyo years ago texted me like millions normal and then I get a picture random picture from her till show you now shen alkaline water balances Ph constipation digestion energy recommended for bowel cleansing. Oh I'm sorry to do this is my I think I'm going to let my phone in that seat and she looks at me smiled Hansman my phone on my fucking getting on me so crazy yeah it was so awful is awesome and then so the next day I get a text from her I suggests read Oh my God by the way I don't have my glasses out of the blue readable it's one of my favorite stories I've ever heard I want you to read this she sent me a out of the blue it's so I turned the most awkward like hey you know I mean just to two feet away from me when you send someone attacks and but I couldn't because that would look even worse if there's a chance she didn't hear mayor it just would have made it worse if I left so I sat there and I felt like sorry I love a good story Jesus Leib read the bottom line poop enforcer create I mean there is a way all right we can edit sorry this is taking a minute no no no no no no no get like open it bigger say why not say that is fucking love a good story a certain all you need is a pivot at the beginning to get you out of trouble like simple pivot what's what's it like autumn of that bottle of choose it's a picture of a bottle of juice trying to get bigger so I can see it I cannot wear glasses story why told it wrong because everyone was just like you're an asshole her so we what happened there's so much more than I I mean I'll try to buy in your seat her asshole stank I think it's just people were horrified for her which I am till and I like all you need telling this whole story sorry no this is are you kidding me when you go did bombed a Mike and Mike okay I thought it was going to be just like a you know Oh my God I don't think she would lie this nurse right no no he says there's no way this is an amazing story not it doesn't work on St John's in it does work on state it it does you know what I'm sweating that's such a great fucking data I said I said so anyway just to wrap this up then she keeps texting May and she wants to watch game of thrones what does that mean does that mean she heard me she heard you and she goes just seeing this was I was drinking that night how this is to blame even I believe in pivots where you like you plant I sometimes you can plant a little sapling at the beginning of the story that allows I just went to my bed and then she came in and the the snuggled up to me and so I guess owns at with me so I was like okay so she comes over and she wants Pajama bottoms to be comfortable you to harvest that later on when it comes to pivot you can you can plant a direction here so that when you get here to get uncomfortable you're allowed to one word swivel it Talgo Oh my God I I was in love with she dumped me that's like a pivot but then how does that square the stinky astle and you guys yet and they go oh I now feel for him I'm trying to think of an example you know like they feel for you in the moment yeah like all you need a little pivot in the front of that he thinks she was a bitch to mayors oven she rejected me maybe girl this girl I got a text in this name it's the fucking that I'll end there but that doesn't even the story really what happened after it gets weirder so were hooking up I'm still though in that mindset of this person here me and uncomfortable so I gotta make our there and she still okay we've had sex before it was like five years earlier or something years early and so we're just winding down watching and then we both fall asleep so I just didn't want to wake her up when she just takes off her pants in front of me full beaver puts on these dyke a You Know Pajama Pants I gave her am I on my phone I left it in the seat so now I have to once again make it our attorney go broke hold on I liked it this well against the movie starts and I say eight before Stinky asshole he's like what what I said she had a stinky asshole it'd be great if he goes I'm sorry what did you say I said friend or something I was trying to find out no no this is my body says no Novak Okay Sitting Mike this is just weird listen how now it might have been revenge or something maybe it was like I don't know it's so interesting how like I couldn't I don't know if I could be single have an APP were you to make friends like they've been APP to fuck people but they don't have friends Oh that's interesting Oh yeah can buy your glasses not by the way my glasses were in my pocket all I did was take on my glasses I didn't realize they were such a great story and I but the glasses that's a bad movie that's a bad movie all right hang on I'll tell you I was it was what was the movie uh Sabinas harm okay this is great because by the way we're seeing it it's about to be pulled out options she goes no no no and I was like okay so mike this is weird like she got my bad we've had sex before why why why that makes me so uncomfortable I I'm uncomfortable most of the time the idea that you go into your bed and then she would get in bed with you and you're like and then you wake up and you'd be like so what are you what are you planning today and she's like oh nothing like Oh cool yeah and then you'd have to be like well I've got you Jitsu class looking for someone to play Ping Pong with I actually I would respond to that all right you can't play alone you can because it's all about being lonely whereas the dating APP is also like trying to get laid is in there yeah but it's like it's like I'm not lonely yeah why wouldn't they have like Why does that seem so sad I know right sadder than a sadder than fucking people technically but theoretically it's not we'll it sad rule out of my car and she took her shoes off really quick and sort of rubbing her feet the within thirty seconds of getting my car really her bare feet talk yeah but a friend is a very lonely and I can't talk to people I remember one time I was on craigslist and I saw an ad saying until until I was like I swear to God I won't be offended I'm just curious are you just not attracted to me anymore and she's acknow might as bodies now and I was like okay okay as we go to sleep and the next day she's not leaving one pm and I finally had pretend I was going somewhere it was just yes we really bad at dating because if a woman was a little bit domineering or weird I would just let it go yeah and be like okay I told me I don't know make sure you're fine and then she started getting nauseous and we had to pullover every five minutes it happened back you're like what is so weird that like I said to someone the other day I don't know where we were talking about we were like they should I went with this girl I picked her up and she literally isn't they're all being overweight but her pictures look totally different I mean she's she was twenty the lead I'm GonNa Fuck big long afterwards he ever do dating apps no I was married before they existed oh worst I anyway Benetton so sad for second I was like Oh i I'm just curious you are you not attracted to me anymore or something and ours did you have a job the bucket of water in her head and we go we're driving and she tells me she's on the isis hit list like why's that and she's like the FBI you feel nervous showing up you just put the picture look like you anyway gets in my car and she mealey's breaks into a flop sweat like someone dumb the one side of the table that's not fun but it was like so sad he should just be like I'm looking fuck like Ping Pong big on also yeah you should four I was one thirty out and I called my dad and said hey what do I hit my pitching wedge I actually know the answer is one twenty five I know the on a real yeah I grew up sort of you know only child no but I would I was you know great parents but like I was the last one like I remember that one show like was it first date where they would it was like hidden camera it was named camera they just go along with you yeah you should have oh weird and then she continued to take pictures of food and stuff that's it sells story but I'm I'm confused I was so why do you think is I you know I called my dad a call my dad on this Sunday on a defy your opinion feel more secure I don't know I think it's I think it's a little bit of a desperateness to connect with people okay like walking lunatics yeah then boundaries but does feel men I wish I boundaries I don't you don't even know bound no fucking I get run over by I'm in working I already know I'm not gonNA listen to them now I'm trying to think of why you would do that maybe you wanted to just hear it so you could select there's one twenty five so as you column I have no fucking idea that's nice though you know what I've just arguing recently is calling people for advice about things I I didn't even go I love music but I didn't even think to by myself music till I got to college and I saw the people do that went through just one of those things you like Peter are like this anyway it's it's going great things are going well you should have a fucking TV show just like it's all done like the kids whatever we got floating around just to the radio I never thought for myself this is what I wanted even doing stand up I never I did what people told me to do so this would be a perfect example so say like we had done here and then we're talking about instagram a little bit and then I got a good to post this is a bad example probably wouldn't do this but like I would tax you hit what time do you post your instagram's you notice that the yeah I I tend to have very weird date you don't like confrontation do you now I hate competent I wouldn't do it so that's why I used to have I used to have immediately second guess what I write with people I have a heart I did I let relationships fall by the wayside consistent minutes I won't reply to any of them why I don't know if something makes me uncomfortable it makes me very uncomfortable to like like uh I'm just GonNa Talk Shit behind your back yeah my friends and I'm not going to be a cook like whereas other ones other my friends would be like this dates fucking over I don't sweet and I just didn't I was like I don't know what to say see I have different fear which is I fear they're going to get there ice this I wasn't the idea that she was two of the picture that that she had her profile so my heart will go how did you get those picture they don't you this don't keep up little tax I think you should that a hundred fucking dude I don't reply taxed at all like people tax me and say like hey the money and not just three okay but but I just whatever whatever reason I got the message of not thinking for myself so I we'll do I can say legit these are friends but I won't reply to these texts Jeff Die Sam Tripoli and Chas Zuma have all texted me within the last fifteen yeah yeah but I feel like that okay are automatically go that makes me sound like accepting a compliment Jeff I wrote a there's a perfect example Jeff Dyer wrote absolute killer set last night what what do you say to that thanks did feelings hurt if I don't write back that's why I feel like I'm going to write what I find funny and they're going to go I don't get it are you trying to be Dick and I'll be like I was just joking I texted it to a group of friends like a picture of Kokomo hand yeah and I was like I've officially made it as a comic someone just gave me Coke I just thought I was like I'm so you calling me after you do coke for a weekend and losses shit I was like I was like dude I didn't do coke I thought you knew me PSOMAS friend who's got a dog like that and I wanted to text them and go he's got a different type of dog and he's got a Connie Corso and I wanted to text him and go hey man is you're cutting corso kids I know is going to be I think I don't think that's a bad thing I think it helps keep connections with people 'cause I drop off a lot of friendships often enough and they don't get your jokes you kind of start going introverted yes yeah like I I was I said to Berry Ah by the way it doesn't matter because whatever you say I'm still gonNA post them 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Ep 398 - Wool, by Hugh Howey

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Ep 398 - Wool, by Hugh Howey

"This is a head Gum podcast while Andrew and Craig believe the joy of discovery is crucial to enjoying any well told tale. They will not shy away. From spoiling specific story beats when necessary. Plus these are books. You should have read by now Hey everybody welcome to overdo. It's a podcast about the books you've been meaning to read my name is Craig. My Name's Andrew. ooh And we're here to talk about another book just another one just like last week really feel like people are GonNa stop listening if we keep doing the same thing over and over again every week for hundreds and hundreds of weeks. You know if you've been out there since Laissez episode twenty he or fewer Leszno. We'd love to know why you're still here because we know here. What did we do? What Louis do right or what did we do wrong that you're waiting to see pay off? I'm not sure but what do we do every week on this here show. Oh every week on this podcast overdue. podcasts it's a podcast. We read a book one of us does and then they tell the other person about it and the listening audience gets to uh be along for the ride. That's usually how it goes. Yeah yeah this week. I read wool by Hugh Howey. You how hugh. Oh Howie which doesn't sound like a it. Sounds like a name from a comic book so good on him he yeah he sounds like the Kinda guy who's uncle got killed and told them about responsibility now. He moved in he moonlights as some kind of based vigilante always with the bug. Based it's like a bug or a small mammal sorta like an unexpected sort of hero. Sure and this book was recommended to us by one one of our Patriot supporters Melissa WHO said I'd love to hear you guys discussed? The book will wool by Hugh Howey. To one of my favorite SIFI APOCALYPTIC ELLIPTIC books. Thanks for keeping up such great book. podcast not sure when Melissa started listening. But let's hope it's from the beginning. I'm also not sure which book podcast. She's talking talking about what we can do. The one that we can do that too I will be reporting on the wool. We'll omnibus edition which is a collection of five stories from this universe. That Mr Howie put together. I've read it on my kindle which meant that there is a bunch of like animated gifts in it out of those render on. They're not. They're not Actually dislike gifts from the Internet. So there's art by Jimmy Braxton. Darwin Cook in here. And if you turn on the like I don't know what the advanced media or alternate media media setting is like all of the text has some sort of art behind it. It's not just like you're reading on on a normal like when I read on my kindle fire wire it's like white text on black background or something and this always it's like a full color image and sometimes there are images of characters and then sometimes those images could move I tur- one page and like a dude appeared like he just like a guy came out of the darkness on one patient. Save US me and it doesn't replay. He's just there now and if you go back he's still they're like okay. You can only experience it for the first time one time. I guess I mean maybe. I don't know how how it's programmed but it was certainly different than what I expected kind of kind of novel. I have not experienced a book like that was a novel. I see what you did there. A what do you know about Mr Howie Andrew. I know Oh that hugh how he was born in. Nineteen seventy five and wool in particular. But like he just his whole deal. He's from that era of the Internet where it was like you can self published a book. Sure we could self publish a book online yourself in the early twenty tens in. It's I was trying to think like what the what was happening around this time. Just like to us and our relationship with the Internet because you and I are like the last generation that really has any significant memory of a world before the Internet correct and so we I think still sometimes we are inclined to think of the Internet is like a thing that is separate from the real world and certainly. This was true through like nineties nineties and allow the two thousands is there. Were like there was like Internet stuff and then there was like stuff so you could be an internet writer and you could even get a real book published based on your Internet writings. But they were so kind of separate things. I mean sure Short Sean you had like an Internet personality in your real world personality and they were seen as like separate things and our understanding of things have evolved a bit. And that's as I think we can say that that's garbage in that that's bad. But this was published using kindle direct publishing which launched in two thousand seven to two thousand eleven. Was this the first one. Eleven was in the first I when the first of the five wool stories came out. And Yeah I was just I was just getting around to along the way saying that. This is a phase as where stuff to start to become books. Yeah like now stuff that self published like. We've mentioned it in passing but you don't get pieces in the Washington imposts and it's very very hard to find contemporary review of this book that does not mention fifty shades of grey a pretty much mentioned fifty shades of grey. Okay because that's the the era has for talking about people from forums or from the Internet right a thing and then it becomes a real book. Everybody's surprised that they were able to do it themselves. Okay this did go on and get like a real like a a non digital exclusive publishing deal though the reviews of the Omnibus Edition are offering twenty thirteen senior. Says I assume when it came out but before it was picked up by publishing house and before it was published in in real book format or like Physical Book format. Yeah yeah the five short stories that had been published Amazon had sold more than four hundred thousand copies according to The Washington Post and the film film rights had already been and never that never amounted to anything which is not uncommon like. It's it's pretty gallon for film rights to get sold in the know movie to come out but as of mid two thousand eighteen there were plans to bring it to AMC as a series now. I can't find anything since then to where that series is in the. Yeah but it's still somewhere that could that could work if someone's trying to make this a new movie stop it make it a TV show. That's what I'll say if you're listening whoever's are you gonNA make it it into a TV show. That's Kinda like a like a ten hour movie. Yeah those are good morning What else do we know anything anything else about him? I know that he owns a boat and I think he's living on his boat now for a decade according to have site he did a lot of he had a bunch of jobs. Bob's Washington Post describes him as Jack of all trades which I guess is a charitable way of describing a kind of midlife drifting drifting. But I don't know you like painted stuff. And then he sold a book and he was like Nisshin he was a yacht salesman or something that you're gonNA stop at yacht he was a ya on. TV maybe Yeah his website says that now he is like He. After sold this book he liked bought a cool boat and he's GonNa try and like circumnavigate the globe which spoiler sir. It's been done but good luck don't Shantelle has been done by jack-of-all-trades self published author like you how I don't think so they will. It's only only been done with the support of the big publishing houses sure of K.. I know he's a It's there's some ecological goal like climate change e stuff in this book. It's not as explicit. As a post apocalyptic work might might be but you you get a sense that he has he does have an enthusiasm for the natural world has written on his website. And then like you you carry that into reading in a book like this which is set in the future when the earth is crap and you can see the connective tissue there As we said this was published directly on the kindle their five books in the wool series that I read And he said that like all the reviews for those host I several stories or what created this and what created the rest of the series. And there's another there are another couple omnibus books Shift it is a prequel series that talks about the world running up to interesting stuff portrayed and wool and then dust is a sequel series series Talking about the end of this world it's like an apocalypse for the apocalypse and yet all altogether these stories are referred to as the silo series. Yeah that makes sense as it takes place in a big silo. That's buried underneath the earth. And that's pretty much. I stopped stopped reading there. Because I wanted you to have something to do. Great podcasts kind of you already. Then there's no point that's how it works. That is how it works works. You could just leave and I could just talk. It wouldn't be as they do that. Don't do that. We're GONNA take a break and Andrew Promise. Please come back pretty tired well listeners. We're GONNA take a quick break. Maybe Andrew will be here later. Maybe we'll see entered you like music. Yeah what you love about music that it sounds good. Sometimes music doesn't sound good. Some music sounds good. Other music doesn't sound good. I like the kind of sounds. Good well if you WANNA hear hear people talking about music. That sounds good Andrew. Good News for you. This week's episode is brought to you in part by one of our Patriot supporters Amanda and her co hosts at discord and rhyme which is a music podcast where they discuss their favorite album song by song. Eight rotating co host Take turns choosing a classic or favorite album talk about at one track at a time including background info the making the album and how they discovered it in the first place and they don't restrict themselves any particular era or genre. They've covered rock soul hip hop prog Rog and more it's available on all the pod catchers I tune stitcher Google play wherever you want it and they release a new episode every other Tuesday I think their most recent an episode was on meddle by Pink Floyd and then hail to the thief is coming up soon which is a radiohead album. I don't know very well so so I should probably check out. This episode actually have also covered. Yes and captain beef are and his magic band. It's voice voice catalog and Blue Wieser. They've covered a lot of bands. I don't think of as having made albums like these Benjamin made song. And then perhaps you release a bunch launch of other worst songs around that one song and you call out an album. Well all the more reason to go. Check out discord and rhyme. You can go to discord pod dot com for more INFO. Follow all them at discord pod on the social feeds and check it out every other Tuesday inder if the world was over or was about to be over as you knew it. What would you like to live in? What superstructure would andrew and well it depends on what you choose right if if I choose something that is only fun with electricity. Their Electricity Pity presumably you have a way to make some electricity. Yeah Okay I was. I was thinking like arcade but then I was like. That's too small why I would. I'd like to live in an old mall. I would love to live in an old mall. Having spent most of my life already in an old off the from the heyday of malls to not these ghosts. These newfangled ghost malls with all the anchor stores ripped out. No if you WANNA see what the apocalypse would look like I would suggest you drive somewhere in the Midwest and go to any mall. I would live in a mall especially if like enough clothes. Were still there and the equipment if the players were still open and we could go get stick on ear aches definitely yes and if the back chair if the massages if like the back massage is chairs the massage chairs would be. We'd have to hack them so that we would have to pay dollars hacking a massage. Josh chair massage chairs very important where the survival of arm all societies true. Well that's where we're going to be but that's not what this book's about this book is about a silo that people people live in It's unclear where the silo came from. And at first for a long period of this book I thought maybe it was is like a nuclear. It was converted like nuclear missile silo. I guess I I guess either that or it's like a the movie twenty twelve style l.. Scenario where it's just enough. People saw this coming that they were able to build a purpose built structure underground for this purpose. Hold onto that thought Andrew you because that's definitely the right so when I started reading this book I didn't know that it was five discreet stories. which which the way that some of the information gets meted out was surprising as I was reading it so I am thinking about that because you just guessed a little little bit about why the silos are there? The first story you're chapter. Whatever you WANNA call it is about the sheriff of this underground underground silo? Yes it has a sheriff Andrew. Of course it does and his name is Halston. And he's not having a good time. His wife died a few years ago because she had to go out and do a cleaning. If you lived in Underground Silos Society Andrew. What do you think going outside aside for a cleaning is I gotTA hang your laundry? The whole silos laundry on clothes on lines lines so it can dry out. That would be good if the Sky Orient ask you once a year. Oh yes we do. The one laundry load The Sky leaning meaning is mostly acid and dirt. So when when people go a little bonkers in the silo or commit mid heinous crime they are sent out for cleaning and Halston wife did one three years ago And he's about to do do one himself so how he loves himself a Tarantino esque like in Medias rests chapter opening okay. I was going to say he. He just likes to throw vampires. No book is oddly. It is not very supernatural. If that is a like a type of Cy I five words like alien. There's no aliens aside from the apocalypse. Having happened. Yes yeah yeah And so he likes six to like put someone in a dangerous situation and then you get a little bit of like I bet you're wondering how I got here and then like cut back and chapter so So the sheriff's wife went out for cleaning. He is about to turn himself in to go for a cleaning. Mostly because he's so grief stricken and can't like just hang anymore. He's just having a really rough time. Can't get over it he can't get over it And it's also pretty clear that she she figured something out about their world that Kana drove her to the brink and he's been sitting on that information also so when you go out for a cleaning of the the the information that that she found or the information the information that she knew something the information he does he know the thing he knows the thing they had a conversation about it or he knows that she is thinking about the world outside so this is the end of the first story. It has like a moment where it's like the world is not what you think it is. It felt really early in the book for that month to happen. Like I'm not sure what I think. The world is yet yet. I'm not sure what preconceptions I have the shatter. Yes so kind of a couple of reveals and I think big picture. I found the first first half of this book. Way More interesting than the back half is because like he was able to keep those reveals happening And and then I was kind of waiting for the ending. I could see how it's GonNa end and then it was like okay. Let's get through the adventure part of the story. Where there's there are fewer like information and reveals? That are that are clearly. What's most exciting about this book? Yeah that's interesting. I was reading a Guardian Review by Alison flood who says And other elements. Don't work so well. It's partly down. I think to the way that the novel developed started life as a very good short story. That story grew as readers fell in love the world how he had created an se wrote the tightness in the skill with which he began unraveled somewhat. He throws in a character who rings false. The love interest for protecting. We'll talk about later And while he mostly writes well sometimes he gets a bit flowery. At one point he indulges in some truly dire love poetry. Wait for me wait for me wait there my dear let let these gentle please find your ear. Oh man it did happen. didn't Ha- hugh the. Yeah that's A. I'm sure we talked about some in the in in the intro. But yeah he he wrote it and then as he tells it without a lot of like promotion or anything from him it took off with people and then he wrote more in response to it taking off so it's a little bit like that Book Pen Pal. Yes I Putu over this past cheer. And yeah the part where. He's the part where he had a story he wanted to tell it. Sounds like is the front part and then the part where he's writing more because people wanted on a more it sounds like might be the back part yeah and it it just it becomes a slightly different book and one that I found personally less exciting. So the what is really really compelling about the first story is Something in the history of this society which has been people living in this silo for hundreds of years has been kept a secret by someone There have been some. Somebody has been like deleting part of their history they do have some computers They don't have like a Internet right. They you can I m people but as we learn like later in the book you have to pay extra money to do it It's way like long distance. It's channel. Yeah it's cheaper to write a note and send it to someone to run down the giant central staircase in the society. You how big silo are we talking about at least one hundred fifty floors or so one hundred hundred fifty. There's no elevators thing is eighty non compliant a and I don't think there is an Ada Yeah that's very might not even be A. I just feel like I say if you'd stand there for decades if not even hundreds of years which they have you would at least install like a dumb waiter sis have a pulley system which does not exist so so like just maybe a shoot that rouse from the top of the things at the bottom of it so they above ground there are sensors that show show the outside world and in the top few floors of the society there are walls that are essentially giant video screens that depict the outside disaster world that you're in which is just like brown skies like dirt ground. You don't know what happened. But it's the apocalypse deal with it. What you want to see? That is it to keep people from wanting to go sort of. It's to be like okay. Well we can't go out there You know what it is and I made eight a cheek year note of this later in my notes. But here's a good time song about inky it is it. Is the the thing about earth not being ready from Wally Ali. It is the like it is. We can't go out there because it's dangerous so we just have to figure out a way to live in here and we're going to keep telling you that it's bad Out there so that no one ever thinks about going out there and so when they send someone out for a cleaning they go out there and they're usually usually some sort of dissident and you can watch the cleaning take place from the videos if you live and the top few there was like a whole class system of course This is closer to the horrible outside better or has better be those. That's where like the bureaucracy lives. There's a mayor there's a sheriff. There's there's a deputy sheriff there other whole building. There's one mayor yes there's and they have elections. I don't know who think that they would split it into districts Sunday. I think it's a few thousand people. So it's like South Bend Indiana or something. So she had a lot of like the mayor would have really really bad knee problems. I think after a couple of terms books from going up and down the Dang book to is all about a woman named John's who's been the mayor for a long time she's old and she has to walk all hundred forty floors and it sucks and she has a terrible time doing it. You would think an opponent would be able to capitalize On that in an election most people run unopposed ironically enough so sold mayor's so decrypt ultimate insider. She's been inside for so long. She can't even climb the stairs to deal with the problems everyday silo dwellers like like you and me face. This mayor's GonNa Promise an elevator. But how's HE GONNA pay for it so when you go out for cleaning your usually some mm sort of dissident and they they put you in a suit and you go out there and everyone does the cleaning. They always do it Andrew even though you think all they were a dirtbag dirtbag they didn't like the silo or whatever. Why do they always turn around and clean the sensors? Well you find out at the end end of this story when Halston goes out there to do the cleaning. He walks up the ramp. The airlock opens. There's like a whole thing. Where like the airlock as to push out a bunch of gas to keep the bad air out and then you have to get out of the airlock before the fire starts to burn all the bad air And he goes out there. Now keep in mind. His wife has done this before and before she went she told him that the people in. It new secrets that the people you need to know. I'm just going to say that to you because we'll come back to it and that's typical I feel of all. It departments in all organizations okay. Yeah so he's got this like his dead wife was like. Hey what if the our world isn't the real world he goes out there. Top of the Ramp Halston saw the heaven into which he'd he'd been condemned for his simple sin of hope. He world around scanning the horizon his head dizzy from the site of so much green green hills green grass green carpet beneath his feet Halston whooped in his helmet his mind buzzed with the site hanging over. All the green there was the exact hue of blue from the children's books the white clouds untainted the movement of living things flapping in the air. And he's like Oh man. The walls are fake. It was like he has never seen the matrix but he'd be like it's like the Matrix. They told us it was bad. Everybody's got come out here. And so he turns around and he goes back and he starts cleaning the sensors. And he's like you guys got see this and they start running out of air and he's having trouble so he's like okay. Wow does take my helmet off because as beautiful out here. He takes his helmet off and his helmet was a screen and it was lying into him and it is bad out there and he dies. World Sucks you're dead and I was like Whoa. What an opening to a book? This is pretty very cool. And that's the that's the story that launched the rest of the series right. It's a cool like double twist that I found pretty effective. The twist is that. Ah stuff isn't bad but then the double twist is. Actually it is bad. Yes and you're left wondering like why would that happen. Was To deal with the silos. What did did she find out what the people in? It know that we need to know about how the printers work or whatever and so then the second book. As as I said about the mayor and the deputy sheriff after Halston has died and they need to hire new sheriff of course because the old one got killed Yup and so she decides that she is going to hire this. Young woman named Juliet who works in the Mechanical Department. All the way down at the bottom of the silo so she's going to walk all the way down as the mayor she hasn't done it in four years and she is GonNa like you know. Stop and talk to people on the way. So that they're like `have save over me kind of she's it's her primary essentially and she does have to stop by. It Andrew to get them to sign off on her hire an it is essentially the deep state of the silo. Like there's a dude named elected bureaucrats pastors have all the real power. So there I think if I recall correctly the society follows The the legacy the order and the pact are like they're three Like documents that are not like constitution. Or something like that. But kind of like the Rubik's that they follow and I don't know that everybody knows about the legacy I know that a lot of people know like sub sub book called the law or something but. It is the keeper off of all this stuff and Bernard runs it. They get exemptions from like power consumption stuff. 'cause they're maintaining all these servers and nobody really knows what they do in there but they also prepare the suits for the people who have to go outside so that they can like be in charge of that and Bernard has a different like nomination for sheriff because he doesn't like Juliet because she had some shady requisitions acqusitions and the mayors like well. No I'M GONNA have my own sheriff because I can't be bossed around by it that would be bad and so she goes off to recruit Juliet Juliet negotiates like some sort of power holiday so that she can work a pump and then she'll agree to be sheriff and look at the end of that book The mayor is because Someone poisoned her presumably from it. Power struggle you know how it is you worked in. It you are poisoned anybody. This book to have the people who manage the computer computer labs and the people who did like the like the main support for clients have concentrator wars assisted. Men's were poisoning everybody all the time. Is there there is truth to that power dynamic though right of like you keep the pro. You are the keeper of the prophecies. You are the one who knows how all things work and not. Maybe that's not a thing that you hold onto because you're evil but just because people can't be bothered to learn how their computers work. You're I guess you did you enjoy working. It enter died. In retrospect yes And at at the time also mostly yes but you know all all jobs. I've learned after having a bunch of jobs for a few years apiece. I've learned that there's just like kind of a baseline level of mouth content that I just settle into and at my at my first. It job I that would that was the level that I was OK. His only at the second one that I acceded now. Sure that's fair. So the third book is like Juliet versus. It Juliet the new sheriff in town is going to drain the swamp and take out the deep state Not really she's going to investigate. Why halston died the the sheriff Again we get like Tarantino opening to this book where she is going to go out for a cleaning and you're like how could that happen. Well Anders she gets arrested twice in the second time winds up with her going out for who arrests the shariff. It sheriff's the short of. Yeah the well the deputy sheriff and who was in like a relationship with the mayor he takes his life and so there's an opening and it puts their man in as the deputy sheriff. So there's like a mutiny against her later in the book I see This this is like the last big that I found like really satisfying an interesting. Like reveal of how the world works which is after after Juliette has been sheriff for a little while after she has met her quote Unquote Love Interest Lucas. Who she meets at night? 'cause he's like sitting in the room with the wall. TV's like making star charts because it's dark enough to see stars sort of But sort of taboo. Because you're talking about the outside world so you shouldn't do that. No one does that Well how'd you have big video. Monitors talk about she her contact and it. A dude who used to work in mechanical sensors. Some information based on what. She was researching about the sheriff. That the the stuff that his wife had found was a program and the program Andrew it it is in sixty four bit color and the guy says why. Why would anyone need that much color? Because presumably they're all using like commodore sixty four like interfaces not even that there's like a a famous quotes that I think is a little bit taking out of context but like Bill Gates saying at some point and like the seventies or eighties. Why would anybody ever need more than six hundred forty kilobytes of Ram? Oh that's funny okay. If you don't know a- barium that's a lot less us as a lot less than whatever you're listening to this on and I remember like several thousand times. I remember in the nineties when it was like man. Do I have four megabytes. A good bytes of Ram heck. Yeah I could play Star Wars. Let's go on the machines that we got nine hundred ninety nine. We stuck one hundred. Twenty eight megabyte stick Aram in their thirty two. You megabytes stick that it came just catch on fire with efficiency it was like. Wow this computer goes now. It was real bad before but now it's actually okay so she learns that this program not only did it do sixty four color it could create images Andrew Whoa photoshop and and soon as I just find a Mac like an old man like old Apple Lisa down there it could project like video images basically she has. This dude finds the program that in her mind is what Halston thought I which is oh man. They could naked project anything on the walls and the outside world could be a total lie. And we'd never know because they could just be they could be put wooden. You know you'll logs up there and that's why he was so primed to believe the the green helmet helmet lie A little a little bit later is when we get she is she is also the one who starts thinking about wait a second. Why does all of the wise our society set up in a way where it's cheaper to send a man running down one hundred flights of stairs with a note that is for me too? I M someone why is. That's so expensive. Maybe someone wanted it to be expensive. Maybe I t is been controlling our lives the whole time and that leads her to to follow up on this like program lead where Dude writes back and he's like hey it's for thirty two thousand seven hundred sixty the eight pixels by eight thousand one ninety two is Xanax. Sensed you Anders Hagen say thirty two thousand seven hundred sixty eight pixels by by eight thousand one hundred ninety two pixels. Sure whatever they're like it's an eight inch by two inch screen with an incredible pixel density. Why would you need that? Yeah that's like a lot of pixel density. Yes as so she with a friend of hers from Mechanical Walker They put together that essentially this the resolution of screen. That could go in front of your face. I am like a vr tortoise and she also like this was a little. Oh I didn't really follow the argument as this was taking place but she has been complaining about some heat tape that they got in mechanical from. It awhile ago because it gave out really easily and like broke a whole bunch of machines and they she posits that it has been putting faulty. T heat tape on the cleaner suits on purpose so that the people die in a specified amount of time. uh-huh it's like a lot like he was because he was like running out of air right so the well his his eating it was saying. Yeah and so like like when she gets sent out for her cleaning her. Mechanical people have taken care of her. They've swapped out the bad he taped for the good he tape and she knows that the the visor is ally and she is able to survive out there long enough to find another silo. Oh ooh and so the back third of the book more that back like two fits hits because it starts in the Middle Third Story Is Her like in this other. Silo encountering another person Trying to to like figure out what happened to that silo because everything's gone to crap and then maybe reuniting with the people and it's like it's more decayed or less yes it's functioning less well than the silos you gain. Brady's the exact layout and it is clear there is she meets one guy there and it is clear that the same type of colony only used to live there but there was some sort of uprising in star Trek. These face nine at some point like mid series. They introduced use the concept that there was a sister station. Deep Space Nine at instead of being reclaimed by the Federation and Repurpose was just abandoned. Um and it was clearly just an excuse to use the same sets but just like stack a bunch of boxes everywhere and this is A. This is a band in this different this is. It's definitely a different a whole different place. That's been abandoned that we can set some dangerous stories and now sure sure the really camera egg like the establishing shot camera angles always had the station like tilted. Even though it's in space and there's like no orientation that that's how you can tell you can tell the difference between deep space nine in this other sisters too. It's interesting that you say. That's where they set dangerous stories because once she gets to this other silo and meets meets this dude who's been living there for decades by himself It becomes just like a sci Fi adventure story worry. That is a little less like her story is not the one you get more world building out of and I found that like I was kind of not as interested interested like she's going deep underwater in this suit that she that she built So that she can try and turn on a pump to drain all the water. So that that maybe she can make this silo more liveable or something And the individual details are like interesting And Kana clever like the kind of obstacles was that she has to deal with but it is not the same as a character like learning more about the world around them which gets shuttled over to the class class warfare uprising. That happens where it's it's been foreshadowed in this book that every generation or so. This might happen happen and it goes south and then like the culture works to make everyone forget that it's happened Mostly the people in. It you're we're doing a lot of work but There Fateh gas I feel like the original. It people made might have been like whatever government officials or something Karan this facility in the first place. Yes they made just maintain that that power as they let the people under them form. Some I'm kinda system to keep themselves busy and to take care of like day to day stuff yes and you also like they instill stratification where they are up in like the thirties and all of the people with any sort of engineering and mechanical know how have to work and live down in like one hundred and forty so they're very far away from kind of their like people who might people whose work they could maybe check or like asking questions about or things like that and so. This uprising happens which is again at like a big action packed. Part of the book that I was just like yeah. People are Dyin Ryan and shooting up stuff But one of the speeches that happens. It's one of the leaders. I think of the supply people is like talking about how the middle all class of the silo is like the worst of them all Why are you so riled up she says because you lost a good friend that happens all the time? No it's because you were lied to and the toppers is will feel this ever more keenly. Trust me they live in sight of those who've been lied to it's the mid's the people who aspire upward without knowing and who looked down on us without compassion hashing that will be the most reluctant so just a real attack on the falseness of the middle class silo. Sure you do get in the mayor chapter you get like she wanders through the like sixties or seventies in. It's like a big open air bizarre or something where people are just kind of trading stuff off and they're not really worrying about outside world or the running of the silo they're just kind of living their lives and how he kinda paints all those people born in negative light buzzer. Yeah so the the last bits of building on you remember which one. which band was that Andrew? It was not marcy playground it was not sixpence and under richer. MC UH-HUH MC. I don't know who that and I do not know that Google thinks that album that the song was on was. Now that's what I call Music thirty four. So obviously the rest of ABC's work has been lost to the algorithm. Sure no word on what there's really we know where to what music people in this world listening to. Unless I missed something but I could use some information about that anyway. Find old cash of now. That's what I call music. CDs His hand. That would be what if that was the good. How and get on that? Okay Yeah The the extra world building we get in the back half of the book is through. You are man. Lucas who again that review you mentioned is like he's presented as a love interest for her. They do reunite at the end of the book. They we do manage to talk via radio one when she's in the other silo but I don't really a bioshock situation. I don't really buy a connection except for the fact that like they're just you know to people who sorta see the world differently and I I don't know that he he how he is less US interested in that and I think he's doing it because he knows it could be a hook for readers but I don't know that it is his strong suit Lucas gets recruited recruited by the head of it to become the next like keeper of it. Which means that he gets locked in a room with a book about the before times and is like forced for weeks on end while this uprising happening and like people are fighting in the on on the stairwell? He has to sit in there and read about like why. This is the way this is what we do about it and why we need to maintain the silo. Oh He is also told that there were fifty silos and that they were put in place as an act of preservation. He does have a radio phone call with a dude who seems to be in charge of all the silos. We don't we don't learn much more about this. Maybe it's covered in the books The Operation Operation Fifty of the world order. He calls it. Yeah that's the face I made. It's a little did an. It person right this. Because that's the only way I can. I can square the ultimate power that how is decided to give give the it people in this. Actually they're the only people who really know what's going on. So the the little seen we get between Lucas and this shadowy. How do we figure is like him? Being like how did this happen. And he's like do you really WanNa know he's like wow you tell me what you think. He's like well. Something Bad Dad was going to happen to the earth and we were able to prepare for it or someone was and I guess if you really think about about the only way to have prepared for it as effectively as we did is to have caused it doen't on So again we don't really know. So what exactly did happen. Bernard goes on to say In his like big scene where he just is the most middle manager ever where he's listen. I didn't choose to live in this silo and be in the apocalypse but by Golly I'm going to keep the rules 'cause that's the only way I can maintain power. He says they he's talking about whoever set this up. They might still be doing it for all. I I know like bombing parts of the world where survivors. Nobody talks about. How long it's supposed to go on? There's fear that small pockets survivors might be holed up elsewhere around the globe. Operation Fifty is completely pointless weightless of anyone anyone else survives. The population has to be homogeneous and he gets cut off and he goes on to talk about like someone had a plan and a powerful country was coming to its end and they decided that a way to preserve their way of life would be to like scorched earth everything else and force people to live in a resource scarce society where their experiences would be so similar in tightly bound that they wouldn't be able to come into conflict with one another so in that context fifty is an interesting number two pick. Yeah it's definitely America American family did it That they do have a map and three of the silos have gone south So there's only forty seven left You don't find out any more about that but the the like Bernards Kinda crappy argument of like. I didn't choose to be here but I'm GonNa make the best of it is on the flipside actually. Also the heart of the book from Juliet's perspective. She's talking to Lucas on the radio on the radio and she says none of us asked to be where we are what we control is our actions. Nations wants fate puts US there I guess like this book made me think about some like climate based apocalypse scenarios. Even though I don't think the book is about them and I think like what level of forgiveness it is necessary or not even forgiveness but just like blank slate is necessary to come out an honest solution There is a certain part of the conclusion of this book which is a like people start spreading the word about what really is going on and there's a threat that there's going to be more or information shared but it's really like a thing that gets brought up again and again is like how much of clean slate do you need to come out. And honest solution in order to effective solution and how he seems to be presenting that for both the good and a positive angle and I just when I think about it and a positive. Oh excuse me a good in a bad angle. Sorry okay so he seems to. He's using like he puts that now he only sees the upside. He puts that logic in the mouths of like both protagonists and antagonists. But I'm trying to sign it they And I think about that in terms of like how much ECO terrorism am. I comfortable with as a person facing climate disaster. How much like what do we need to? What do what do who do we need to blame? And who do we need to just like get on board and what's the difference. And what are we supposed to do about this big existential problem Because that that was a thing that was like batting. Or if you wrote this story now I don't see how you could put that in the background background if this was some of the stuff you're interested in like this in twenty eleven things were obviously bad and people were raising warning signs. It wasn't like top of the line news using the same way and while it didn't I By twenty eleven. I guess I don't I don't know I. I know that in the twin like the two thousand eight presidential campaign there is still a sense that it was an issue that both sides could agree wasn't issue sure and that and that. The solutions just differed whereas now it definitely feels like there is a there is a deeply entrenched like a half of the a country that chooses to believe that it isn't a thing but it just isn't something we need to worry about and so things feel much less possible. Yeah yeah in the way the things always feel less possible and there's just like a basic set of facts that people can't and so this book is definitely on. This book is definitely about like I know. I didn't mean to like surprise. Bummer you but it was definitely always always always just a couple of thoughts away from his surprise brize boomer. Well I just like this book other books have done this kind of like not even necessarily post I was thinking of the giver a lot while I was reading this book where or like stories where they tell you see people are givers. They are they do they keep the memories and then they usb stick and then you have their memories Where you're told the world is and can only be one way? And what are the forces maintaining that illusion and what is the cost cost of breaking that illusion like that is what this book is about at its best and at its worst. It's just taking a long time to get there and and so I was. You know I found myself thinking a lot about like the climate thing and also the the whole like putting them in silos. I don't know if you were able to find anything interesting. It was reminding me of off the like the seed projects where we are like somewhere in Iceland or in Scandinavia. We've stored a bunch of plants. Seeds seeds in the event that things go sour like in a giant refrigerator is out of there is a I mean so the Svalbard global we'll see vault is probably the one that you just like a C- a seed bank or seed library is a thing that exists in a lot of places that global seed vault this is kind of a backup for though. Okay yeah which is what I found was looking. I just found what what level I'm curious. What level of interested in survival ISM are you level interest is? Maybe I should own like a water filter and know. Oh how a gun works. Yes but I haven't actually acted on my level of interest is I will talk to anyone about bug out bags ask but I have yet to buy a bug out that area okay so interested but not not at an actionable level or at the same level of okay reading about survival. Azam is interesting because it takes a lot of different forms based on like the stuff that's happening in in time. Hi Yeah it has its roots. I think in the post World War Two bomb. Yes yes scare. Bomb feared stuff but then like through the seventies seventies it becomes about like the monetary system collapsing and then there's like a Y2K phase. And now we're getting into sort of a climate change phase and just who ooh. I don't know if we've talked about on the show before I was talking to somebody about this week when Y.. Two K. was about to happen. I went home for winter break that year. I did think very strongly to myself what if Y2K happens. I'll have to go back to school. That was a real exciting eating thought. I had as eighth grader. Who didn't want to go to school and there's a twitter going around not that long ago? About how y two K was overblown and then there are a bunch of people saying no. Why'd you K- was an example of a thing where we identify a problem? Then we solved it and then it wasn't a problem is it's very much like a vaccine thing where you're trying to prove a negative. Yes yes yes yes well. In the instance of why do gate. It was a problem that we created the two similar to a problem that we're exacerbating now with climate change. Anything that computers would exist for more than four years. Anyway we're off topic. We're talking about survival. Ism I guess yeah I have their. This book also reminded me of an episode of one of the like isn't are but these houses wacky shows on net flicks where like a dude was buying an underground like tunnel to go live in and a mall of his rhetoric. Rick was very like well when the plane start falling out of the sky. Like I'm GONNA be somewhere. I can play board games with my family like listen. This is where I'm going in a B. So I got by this track. Land that no one else can find. Make sure your cameras don't show any addresses and that stuff kind of weeks me Out because I those are. That's a person I don't want to be in one of these silos with because they've already made the choice that this is necessary as opposed to I can share their stuff with me. They hate me. They hate me. At my tree hugging life my unpreparedness. Yeah yeah. This book made me think about a lot of stuff outside itself and I think the reason I like found my mind not wandering 'cause it was still tied to the book but the the fact that Juliet who was a compelling main character for most of the first-half kind of gets relegated to an underwater Tehran adventure and I very strong negative feelings about deep sea diving underwater terror adventures. What they call the Poseidon Adventure in Japan? There's a there's a level. I don't like going underwater in the game shadow of the Colossus Andrew. And you can't even go that deep under that water I hate. I don't like dark water that I can't see in free time. I tried to Snorkel with scuba diving like whatever is like twenty feet under the water that of like one foot under the water and I did it and I knew that I wasn't going to like it but I was gonna do it because Suzanne wanted to do it because I thought I would be fine and I was not fine. Oh I don't want it and so I was reading that part of the book being adult. Want it and that's that's on me. I guess But I wished that she had been part of the Lucas learns about the shadowy figures scenes. And not just Lucas. Because he was just kind of a cipher for that information. And you've got it. You got a better. You better read on her perspective at that. Yeah so I guess it would be a more interesting set of eyes through which to process that information. Yeah and then I can also see you know the discussion about this. Maybe becoming becoming like if you're going to adapt this story or these sets of stories it would work better as like a walking dead esque. AMC Show even the walking dead is clearly run. Its course I where you do need multiple perspectives to kind of flesh it out I see what people dig about this because the world building even four four. Yes it's another post-apocalyptic people are trapped in the thing story. The characters are pretty distinct. An interesting I love evil. It he department as an anchor device for the world. And I think the like questions of why you would keep this this prison running and the reality like the mechanisms to maintain alternate realities are were pretty interesting. to dig through. I don't know anything else that you WANNA talk about. No I feel like we've done. That's fine I wish. I wish that he had he gives a few nods to the fact. Act that there's some sort of religion and that may God great like people believe that God created the silo for them That's very under explored. I I hope that in the other books he at least least pays like some sort of lip service to like who concocted that story because it seems like a pretty big one that God will build a silo. Hello in the ground for them and give them computers. I guess especially when there's so much evidence like existing evidence to the contrary. I guess I'm just complaining about how religion works as a concept. It's yeah it just doesn't it. It seems the other thing. This'll be my thought. The closing thought the other like because you learn that things are not what they seem so early but it's very clearly like of just future version of our world. My experience as a reader was like waiting for each shoot a drop of like. Oh this is how it relates to actual factual history. Oh this is how it relates to it it being America And then having kind of a little snippets of like an underwritten God myth or something. 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Esports On The Rise: Carlos Rodriguez + Fabian Hllsten

Coronavirus + Sports

24:31 min | 11 months ago

Esports On The Rise: Carlos Rodriguez + Fabian Hllsten

"Welcome to Corona Virus Sports. This is with manager today. The world of e sports I'll be talking to Colorado he as CEO and founder of G. Two E. Sports which is a huge successful brand and team in the world of gaming. We'll also be chatting with Fabio Halston Professional Gamer. Who knows too well? The culture of Video Games and what they represent. The effects of cove in nineteen on the world of sports has caused major economic downfall forcing layoffs and see of financial uncertainty. But there's one sector that has not only survived the downturn it has continued to grow because of it video gaming video game sales have been soaring. Millions of people have been following social distancing and quarantine guidelines and turning to other ways for entertainment Nintendo for example the Japanese giant sold. Its latest of its animal crossing franchise to more than one point eight million copies in. Its first three days in Japan according to the gaming publication Famitsu here in the US. Bryson stated a video games usage during peak hours. Went up more than seventy five percent since quarantine rules came into place while video streaming increased by twelve percent with numbers climbing obviously when it comes to marketing and production revenue. This is no time to take joy out of what comes out of covert nineteen but the facts remain the world of video gaming and East sports continues to thrive wanted to dive deeper and talk to people who not only understand his world better than your regular player but also help us see what the future holds for this intriguing world of e sports joining me now is GonNa Larrea's founder and CEO of G. Two E. Sports one of the biggest organizations teams in the world of East Sports Carlos. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you so much for having me. He pressure it's a pleasure simultaneously hip and you'll about. We will do this. In English for the sake of our audience gutters. Obviously there's nothing in Cova nineteen on the polemic that calls for means to celebrate as many businesses are struggling but video gaming is going through a unique situation. Can you explain to us the state of video gaming and East sports during the pandemic? Yes so you know as you said is it? Is You know when when a catastrophe like this happens is never f a good thing when people are struggling to directly look the silver linings but You know some time has passed. I think is good to start sort of looking at what things are going well and yes definitely video games in east sports in particular are going through relatively good time For for many reasons one of them being there is just more people with more free time in east. Portman gaming are fantastic. Sort of get away for these people to spend our entertain them themselves in and then number two because people that have never come across gaming eastport now as a result of having that increased amount of time at home in the decreased. Amount of time you know having to find ways to entertain themselves the Italy. Then they don't officer they're exposed to game in any sport in office setting we have more potential people interested in it so it it. It's definitely not a good thing in terms of Of course many business going belly up Of course revenue decrease in for an you know within a number of of organization teams and competitors of ours are struggling already but they look look at the numbers. And you see that people are watching more streams. People are what you more videos be more social medium being actually more engaged with us. Yeah let's let's stick to that Part that you just said numbers I mean. I'm reading things. Like even as high as seventy five percent video gaming is happening right now. Has a sports found a way? Do you think also to appeal to new fans who perhaps never even cold themselves gamers. Is that a major part of the audience right now. Well I feel like if you ask me what do you think is the retention rate of all these people that have never gained before in are now exposed to gaming the retention rate of these people. I think he's not a very low. And the reason is because gaming and eastport in particular have been growing within certain dynamics that US those that have grown playing games on watching people play games understand and are used to you. Know New game comes out and that game will be changing over two weeks in order to remain fresh in order not to lose its player base right. That's unheard of in traditional sports. Like you know. People lost their crap when soccer installed a the Var to verify whether something was off side. Or where goal was legal or not you know allowed or not in any sports that is normal phenomena like things like this happen all the time so where we grow up or embracing change. We grow up seen teams like ours. Having to constantly games die new games. Come a new you have to shift budget. You have to be very agile. You know kind of like Zodiac as opposed to a transatlantic and those are things that that people that are not to that find shocking right because you have to keep track of all the changes that have been happening in the game specifically etcetera. Otherwise you just lose. You know you lose interest in it for our audience who may not know this. Give us a little background. Just how big is the world of sports right now? We're talking about approximately two gamers around the world. Probably half a billion dollars just in terms of overall revenue going around with growing approximately twelve percent year over year knob Ridge La- we're talking about big numbers here and what interesting about these numbers is not that they are beak today. Relative to traditional sports is the tendencies that Trent is the fact. That doesn't matter what happens. Gaming will keep growing relative to the rest the other every other form of entertainment wise because people have more and better access technology to Norway's cheaper everyday Internet and connectivities cheaper and better every day and people you know games are the most red ocean business I can think of in terms of every single publisher is fighting against each other in order to have the winning title which means that every single day you have incredibly talented developed developers coming up with insane games and that keeps happening all the time. There's not a single basketball. That stays there forever. No you don't if you don't step up your out which means that the industry using a constant state of upgrading itself each forcing gaming in particular. It doesn't matter whether you're giving your phone on your ps four On Your PC xbox ipod VR ar doesn't matter is video games and video begin competition and there will always data will always exist to capacity numbers. Keep growing up and And and not nothing tells me that the trend is going any other direction aborts. Well I mean the evidence is right now during a pandemic where it doesn't matter Video game and is still as you said going up. Talk to us a little bit about g to sports Your Organization your team Talk about it a little bit. I know some of the things you have been doing during the pandemic sure. Well we are as any sports organization. Right I lance many people would automatically competitors with. I don't know. La Lakers something like that but in reality what we are. A media company focused on video games so kind of more like a combination of Netflix. Meets these name midst L. Acres Right? Yes we do have teams that compete and succeed competitively. And there's a big part of our business we have but the but then we have a lot of creators and entertainers. That are not necessarily the best in the world at the game. They're just funny entertaining. There's a lot of content of social media and distribution and there's a lot of communication with defense in person online so there's a lot of lot of aspects that makes us so clearly a media company with one very very strong thing which is the brand g tweets portrayed in all our brands that we own like making the squad which is a reality show sort of talent show for entertainers gaming and and and and whatever may come in the future right so One of the things that I think differentiates us from the rest is that we see our job. The same way Gladiator that likes his job would see his job. Yeah he has to Wayne because losing might get him killed but he loses. He wants to be entertaining enough so that the people are wanting a life and the disease are never does like. Did you know with the finger down? Point down the fingers so so that he dies And so that's pretty much is right out brands very playful or brownies. You know where very self deprecating would always roasted. Everybody else like we're about is a video game is fun and then to yourselves. You know and is working. It is working what the other part that I'm interested in some of the things that you have been doing to help others teen talked to us a little bit about that. Yeah we are doing. We're putting together Sort of content format with with Illegal in In football with before we did it with NBA Two K. Where we stream you know we get sort of the best player of each of each of which team to play sort a tournament and actually Real Madrid up into win. Yeah Yeah Yeah well. I formerly relative fence so that that was good so Barcelona fans won't be happy about that and so so we need to entertain the people any had a lot of people had 'em hundred seventy five thousand grab yours. We raised one hundred and fifty thousand one hundred sixty thousand dollars I can. I can remember exciting. You know we're working with partners for example secret lab We're we're we're donating Fifty thousand mosques for frontline works in the US for coffee. Nineteen sort of Initiatives in general. We just for us what. We are our role in these world release. There's just so much shit out there. There's so much bad news. There's so much negativity everywhere everywhere you go. You know exactly where to Negative Nativity if you follow us whether as twitter instagram youtube twitch whatever it is you know a tick tock whatever it is you know you're in for laughs you know that you know whatever we're not gonNA put out is not going to be an eam always gonNA BE NEGATIVE GONNA. GonNa Thrive and try to be funny generally funny and and try to make your day one percent better. That's our goal and our job and find seem to like it so far. They do they do. That's probably why you said it was net flicks Disney and the La Lakers. Though I live Freddie merger I probably would have at the ninety s bulls. But we'll we'll move on The other part that I really wanted to break down was also about video streaming right pete. He'll also logging on and watching Specific advance etc to you mentioned twitch course a major part of the gaming industry talk to us a little bit about it and the rice and just how much has groans especially during the pandemic. Yes so what what what twitches. And it's funny because I actually before I was a pro. I am if I build you to his as the CEO founder. I was actually a professional player myself in I was to the largest streamer back then as well and then it was the largest one of the largest in twitch TV which is right now. Superbeets racial box van when streaming there for thirty thousand concurrent viewers. It wasn't as big right and I've seen all this change happening in front of me is just a matter of habits that people are growing up with different habits than before. When Youtube became such a big thing everybody was looking at Logan Poll. In all these very known pupae and people like that are super knowning youtube and that came out of nowhere as well that became so big. Thanks to all these habits from the people you know growing up now. Those habits are more and more becoming instead of watching static video content as much from Youtube. They're they're sort of slowly deviating towards life video content right and you know live streaming will become larger and larger as time goes by. But it'll never make a sort of video on demand. Which Youtube is absolutely there irrelevant. By any means just two different forms of entertainment the good thing twitch though and livestream in general is that the level of interaction with your community will just be always on order of magnitude better like. Dick an ask you imagine if Lebron James will be guest with a Gopro just just shooting threes in streaming for like thousands of people and people ask him questions and he answered them. Well this is what you have right now with video games in the BDO game athletes. These guys this community are big fans and these guys are idols for them so having the possibility of donating them five bucks and say hey. I love your work and then get a reaction from the streamer is invaluable for some people. Yeah I think the key that you said there is you just agree with to engage with the our community are really really insightful. Conversation Carlos early as CEO and founder of G to sports. Thank you so much for joining us. Thanks so much guys appreciate your work. We'll return after these short messages. Sports and scandals. What more could you ask for every week on? Hall of Shame. A new podcast. From crooked media folks sports host and comic Rachel Panetta and Comedy Writer. Reggina truck bomb take each other through some of the biggest scandals in sports history to discover the humanity behind the headlines from the thrill of Dhaka's No hitter to the agony of Rosie releases. Marathon lies they get to the bottom of what happened. Why these stories matter and how they're still relevant today you'll laugh you'll cry. You'll feel more invested in sports than you ever thought. Possible new episodes of Hall of shame. Come out every Monday. Subscribe on Apple podcasts. Spotify or wherever you your podcasts. It's one thing to understand the market. But what about a professional player? Someone who literally calls video gaming a career all over the world pro gamers just like athletes make a living from competing in these virtual worlds. They are part of a team playing in high stakes tournaments watched by thousands sometimes millions of people. How's the outbreak affected them? And what did they see in their own futures inside the world of sports joining us now is an Halston. Famine has been a pro players as two thousand sixteen. He's won three majors two of which are actually world championships. He's extremely popular in the gaming world. He's one of the winningest players in the rainbow. Six siege and you can find all his context specifically on Youtube Fob. Am thank you so much for joining us. Thank you for having me. I'm really happy to be allowed to come on. No absolutely were so happy to have you. Let's let's get straight into. This is a show obviously about sports and the pandemic and many of our audience may not really be familiar with the world of of gaming. Talk to us a little bit about your background and the life of a professional game so I started fairly late being a professional player. I come from sports background like myself from before I started playing a sport called floor ball when I was twelve. I managed to get my way to the second highest league in Sweden. I injured my knee at eighteen and from there on I started playing a lot of computer games and I brought the same integrity that I had from sports. I mean you know how to play a team. You know how to be a character for your team your group and then I've just managed to take that over to sports. I think it's a very very similar sort of stuff with the same sort of metallic you need to best. You need to always push yourself and work hard and there isn't any shortcuts. We're not sitting around just playing video games now. We have specific practice when when we're doing stuff and we have specific purposes. We all these practices for example support players. Which will be using gadgets utility to help the so-called entrance which is the guy's going and I we have analysts rick coaches. We have obviously management's behind us. We have a lot of people working in an e sports team. This we have people that specifically look in in our game play and how we play and see what ten is we have. How is it easy to counter us in our place? What can we do to improve our individual style? As well as improve our team coordinated style. So you just mentioned about your team. I mean video gaming is such a huge community. Just how big is the gaming and e sports world I? It's massive. I mean the game that I play Rainbow. Succeed JR think last February. We will this February two months ago. We hit fifty million unique players on console and computer. So that's that's just one game and we don't even one of the biggest slumps we I would put about six or seven. There are games that are so much larger than ours. I mean you look at those aren't familiar whitten. Well I come from Sweden so Mike Countries and felt that big. You look at a football match and you'll have thirty thousand people in the arena watching the game and we went to Brazil two thousand eighteen. We might have to put in. I think it was seven or eight thousand people in the marina so you stats like the numbers might not be the same people that are there but online it's it's just massive anyone can use tune in twitch and you find the tournament and you can probably watch a tournament getting played right now. If you tune in there what what what would average audience be on twitch for a tournament would you say it really depends on? What sort of tournament is if it's a normal proudly game which is basically our league? We played every week twice a week. Depending on what the team G to us. We have been most successful team has pulled the big numbers and I would say on a normal match online. We would gather somewhere between twenty to thirty thousand viewers but if you go on a world championship will pull over a million on. That's all applause fight platforms to combined. That's just incredible numbers Obviously Corona virus there are many businesses that are going under. It's not a a happy time for many industries and you never really WanNa talk about you. Know How Great. Somebody's doing but video gaming continues on the rise Would you say that you are seeing that as a Gamer? I would say so. Definitely I mean right now. My job eastwards professional comes into being a streamer like I play. Video Games live so people can watch because we transfer windows just like in Rian Sports. I conscious go join another team whenever I want to. I have to wait into the transfer window opens and I would say there's an increasing viewership especially for individuals dreamers but also for the big tournaments and I mean Valerie just got released into the Beta stage which is completely brand new game and they have been pulling absurd numbers on on the live streaming streaming. So I would say east. Sports probably got a boost from the corona virus. But I mean I it's kind of you don't WanNa say it's good for someone because while the viruses and good for the world but for Eastport if you take that out of everything else eastport is doing good because of it quite a lot. Yeah absolutely would you say that You're seeing new people not just new gamers but new people being introduced to video gaming. I think so as well. Yeah I I can definitely see that Seeing us like a lot of sports now when they're not playing any matches at all pretty much anywhere in the world. I think that a lot of people will well they will try to find. Some sort of entertainment may be while online poker. Or if it's going to be sports it could be anything but people want to watch competition and I mean it may be difficult to get into those like really hard to understand games like doth or league of legends or even Rainbow Six. But some of these games like Rockin League where you drive a car and you play football with cars. That is fairly easy to get into an fairly easy to understand and I think a lot of people will become coming into sports for this. Do you find it Damian. Ironically that obviously were talking about the need for social distancing stain at home not physically interacting with others. Gamers actually are doing the opposite. I'm becoming more united more connected Because of what they're doing in the virtual gaming world. It's kind of hard on Gab. Because I'm obviously used to sitting at home playing video games. I work from home. I only go to tournaments every now and then when when they are and for me normal I sit at home and we'll talk to my friends via intimate than I will talk to my family being an well everyone in my work work life so for me. I'm used to it but it's it's funny. How all these people are coming in now and all of those people get into the same chatroom they all talk each other and I think it's a good thing that we have video games and e sports entertainment business because it just as you said it can bring people together in very hard situation Fabian. Halston thank you so much for joining us. You can follow him everywhere on social media by his channels. Thank you once again. Thank you very much for having me. It's ironic in a way that at times when we ask for social distancing video gaming is a sector that's actually connecting many of us from streaming to actually playing there is a community that strengthens from competing and digitally interacting as video games become more advanced and the user experience heightens the world of e sports. Even in the midst of a pandemic Kanani go one way up thanks to Colorado and Halston for joining me today. We'll continue these stories throughout the coronavirus crisis. 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Forward Faster with Dean JB Holston and Elizabeth Reynolds

Forward Faster

29:39 min | 10 months ago

Forward Faster with Dean JB Holston and Elizabeth Reynolds

"Welcome to forward faster a limited series podcast from the University of Denver's School of Engineering and computer science joy Dean J. B. Halston as he thought leaders on hot topics higher education and the future of work ruinous. Ajay Halston and the Dean of the School of Engineering Computer Science here at the University of Denver. And we're here with our forward faster podcast and my guest. Elizabeth Reynolds the executive director of the MIT industrial performance center a and Mit's Department of Urban Studies and Planning and Co author of the Task Force Report on the work of the future We had the opportunity today to have. Elizabeth talked to a number of Colorado leaders about that report about the work of the future and about the impact of the future of work. The work of the future on Particularly Education Labor etc. Liveth is great to have you here thanks J. B. It's great to be here. Thanks so we've got a couple of different kinds of questions. We've got questions about the work that you're doing and how you came to this work et Cetera. And they got a few questions. And I'm not going to tell you about until the end. The last one of these. The our guest did some Karaoke at the answer. If you feel like one saying excellent. You're welcome I'm ready. Great Okay and thank you very much for stopping by here on your way back to the east coast from Brazil. Yes exactly Keeping it interesting from from the global south to the global north right Let's talk a little bit about The task force if you would how it came together and What is work is around the work of the future? Let's start with that if you would. Thanks sure well. I think as everybody knows there's been a lot of rhetoric discourse In the media about the robots are coming and it's created a lot of uncertainty a lot of anxiety and despite the fact that we have a very strong labor market right now up. People are anxious about the future and that affected mit and our president president rife allot. I mean we're obviously got a strong department inventing a lot of the robotics going forward and so I think there was a sense of responsibility that MIT needs to not only be thinking about the technology of the future but also the implications for Society for workers etc so the president in the spring of two thousand eighteen essentially commission this task force. It's only happened a few times. In the history of Mit we're institute wide across all five schools. We have a Task Force of Twenty Plus Faculty looking at the question of the relationship between technology and work today. So that that there's got to be an art to Pulling all of those cats together in a regular basis. And it'll be interesting to to talk about that. But the task force issued an interim report in September. Can you tell us with some of the findings from that report? Were well the first thing we do with. The report is ask ourselves. Why are we here? What is the real issue that has made us concerned about technology and work and what we find is that you know people are not crazy? There's a real reason to be concerned if we look at the last forty years in this in this country we've had a motte significant not as much as we want but productivity growth that has been substantial and yet a lot the the typical worker in the US Not the sort of higher skilled worker not the One worker has not gained in those In that productivity gain. We've just seen wages relatively flat and so Were first and foremost starting with the fact that people are feeling uncertain about the future. And what is the role of technology in that and certainly technology has played a role it has essentially. We've lost a lot of middle skill jobs so the jobs that were in manufacturing or in clerical and administrative and so what that means is we've had a hollowing out of the middle while skilled work and higher skilled work has grown. And so what that means is we have sort of a greater polarization in our appointment marked and that means we have had higher inequality so the question is what is the dynamic. What is the dynamic behind there? What is the role of technology? Certainly not the only issue we've also had trade as an issue of had decline of unions. We've had certain policies that have not helped in supporting workers generally so that's first and foremost we then also really look at what we see going forward and Certainly in terms of technology we see robotics growing and expanding in different ways. But I would say we overall we our senses this technology and a I. Broadly is not going to happen overnight. It takes almost sometimes decades for this technology to have an impact so for example. The concern about autonomous vehicles. What we've seen is a pullback of about how quickly that's going to happen what the implications are for our for drivers et Cetera. And so in some ways that gives us an opportunity to get ahead of the game and I will say after today's meetings here I really feel like Colorado's trying to get ahead of the game and figure out. What kind of changes do we need to make policy wise? Institutionally so that this technology is a tool that works for us and not against US and another factor. We think is really important. Our demographics we are an aging population. We have declining fertility rates. We have an increasing education. An educated workforce we have limited restricted immigration policies. Now all that means our issue. Going forward is not going to be Too many workers out of work we're going to have basically scarcity of workers and a lot of jobs and the challenge is not the quantity of jobs to the quality of those jobs. And so that's the real focus for us in the report. That's great so it sounds like the findings were in part that this is. This is kind of a long time coming. You know it's not. It's not that suddenly everybody woke up in the singularity is Sunday but but it tends to get talked about that way that that you know. Everyone forgets that in fact There's been a long set of trends over decades that That are informing the anxiety to a non trivial degree and a Lotta anxiety. Seems focused on the robots at right. Now that's right. I think that is fair. And we certainly have In the political discourse campaigns and things like that we have people who are fueling the fire on that. There's no question that we do feel that the those who are most vulnerable to this technological change are those Lower and moderate skilled workers. You know those people for whom yes automation of routine work warehousing work etc. We're seeing that come so let's not Be NAIVE ABOUT THAT. But the most of this technology is going to be complementary to human skills that is probably what we're seeing a lot of the AI. Software based work is improving quality. It's improving safety. Scott efficiencies that are going on in a very tight labor market in fact a automation is going to be what helps agricultural deal with the fact that they can't find workers so So it's more nuanced Nuanced argument and I think it's one that again we can be Ahead of the curve and thinking about. How do we respond? And what do we do to support? Workers going forward that is not just about the technology but our policies and our institutions. We talked a little bit earlier today about healthcare as a sector and you were observing that that's one of the sectors in particular where the problem isn't going to be lack of jobs But that there is an issue with the pace of and you were talking about Colorado company that you had a chance to visit with yesterday. Cirrus amid MD. Chuck a little bit about about that. So I think broadly speaking I mean healthcare such a huge part of our economy. Right which is why it. First and foremost it's important. Secondly we have an aging population. Which is going to be putting more demands on this system. And so those things are are true and third. We know that you know notoriously. Our healthcare system has been A laggard when it comes to adoption of new technologies and things and I I mentioned this great quote from Talgo on Day that we have the most fantastic star wars like you know cutting edge technology and healthcare but we have a flintstones delivery system right so anybody who's been in these hostels we realize challenges are enormous and so you know yes. We need all in leaning on the technology and yes. We're going to need the six ten fastest growing jobs right now in the. Us economy predicted at least over the next decade are all in healthcare so So going to a company like serious. Md which is a telemedicine company. A start up here in Denver which was a really exciting is using You know technology. I other sources to try and address issues like for example the fact that something like seventy percent of visits to the ER could have been prevented right and so their model which is to get people talking directly with doctors and helping triage if you will the problem before they enter to the hostile has enormous implications for productivity for efficiency and ultimately maybe there's some impact on work but really the you know. I order even second order Impact is about you know improving healthcare and improving actually the workload the and the work of healthcare providers. So I think it's just a positive example that we need to keep in mind When we think about you know the robot is coming actually. This has got enormous implications that are positive across the board. We talk a little bit about kind of the Barbell of opportunity based on you know the kind of job that you may have and where the kind of background the the high when I took away from the report was That cities are where there was always that opportunity to build Middle class for lack of a better term kind of life With some persistence in the job. That that's a real problem area and and I don't think people think that way. I think the problems are everywhere else. Probably not there. Could you talk a little bit about that? Well it's clear that this dynamic what's going on with our labor market has a geographic dimension to it right and there's no surprise it pl- places feel left behind in this technological technological transformation the digital economy etcetera and so a couple of things that are going on one if you have a college degree You are more likely to probably leave your rural community and moved to a more urban place where there's opportunities so it's funny that you know when when we've started to have Internet and better telecommunications we thought Oh there's death of distance where we can all be wherever we want to be and work from remotely. It's just turns out. It's not true for the educated workers that going toward you know The Denver's of the world. Whatever is where you're gonNA find opportunity exciting. You know things we have the knowledge workers etc if however you a low skilled worker. What's happened is your opportunity in that rural area based on the low skill working has doesn't necessarily change as you head to an urban area. Meaning you you are still competing with a larger pool of people for for low skilled work and the escalator toured a middle class. Job has diminished. And you know this. There's a whole bunch of factors that come into this think. About for example. Large firms have outsourced a lot of their services. Their food service their janitorial service right so in the previous decades the integrated firm you had. You had a lot of circulation between the educated worker in the low skilled worker. Now it's really these separate worlds. And so what are the opportunities for somebody working in? Janitorial Food Service. Where is the career path? How do they get out of that? And so I think. Today's conversation with some of the leaders here in the region was very much about trying to create those pathways forward how to create maximum flexibility and transparency and And ability to kind of transfer credits etcetera in a system so that people do have that that pathway forward. Let's talk a little bit about since an educational establishment. Let's talk a little bit about the educational establishments role in all of this. Certainly we talk a lot about becoming a platform for lifelong learning sort of an asset to the community for lifelong learners But a lot of that is Helping upskill well paid people working for big companies already which arguably is not really where where the big the big issue is will will emerge and I know the report you talked a lot about. The prospective role community colleges could play. Talk a little bit more about that if you sure well. I think the first thing we'd say is I agree with you. That there's there's a lot that higher education could probably do that a lot that companies can do and companies are leaning in right now. We've got a lot of examples of companies stepping up and trying to upscale and that's important and they will do that for their workforce but if we think of the larger challenges again with With people with less skills or perhaps at this point or less education out the community colleges just become a critical piece of the puzzle. I mean they are. We've got six thousand plus of them in the country. They are kind of accessible to all. They are about getting degrees. That are tangible. And you know connected to attack you know to real technical skills. They have been significantly underfunded and I think until we understand that they are just a lynch to all of this. We need. We're we're gonNA miss the opportunity here. So what we're seeing are a lot of. I'd say innovation. I mean the the great part about the US education system. It's not as rigid as Germany right. We don't have those pathways really well defined but what we do have is flexibility and on ramps and entre Off Ramps and things like that and so What we see is a lot of innovation at the state level of figuring out. How do we dig deeper into the High Schools? Early on the high school students onto a path in which they're going to be Taking courses and get some sort of you know degree certificate community college and from there into a skilled job and despite the fact that we see the shrinking of middle skill jobs in the country the fact that we have an aging workforce means that in fact there's a ton of opportunity we've got a shortage of a million and a half manufacturing workers over the next decade in this country. We have a shortage of trade workers. We have the healthcare thing so community colleges could be a critical place for learning those skills and placing those workers. And we really need to have the connection and the connectivity between industry and Education to make that work great but its paces and perhaps what people are concerned about is not that we're going to three million truck drivers you have to learn become drone operators tomorrow. It's we've got some time but being thoughtful And programmatic about how we approach this. You've sat through a few hours of conversations here at Colorado contributed to those. And thank you again for for doing that. What are some of your observations having heard the conversation today? Because I know you're you're the task force is talking in a number of areas around the country but what what are your takeaways about the conversation. You heard here in Colorado today. Well first of all I would say that from the outside looking in you know. Colorado has been highlighted along with a couple other states as a place as taking this seriously and looking across the board. It's you know. Part of our challenge in. This country is fragmentation so my impressions at Colorado and previous governors current governors have really taken seriously and are looking at the system as a whole. Because that's what we have to do right K. Through twelve twelve up. It's it's the way to do it. I would say a couple things that came out of the conversation. One there are a couple. Things we know are working. They are working. We have evidence that they work. You know their apprenticeship programs there's community college programs And we need to build on those and scale them and that is a fundamental challenge. And it's you know one that can be done in multiple ways not just about money The other is the connectivity across institutions so to the extent you're taking courses in one place and then you have to stop for a while and then you start something. We need visibility into that. We need transfer ability. Somebody was talking about this. A great idea around using blockchain to really be able to both have the transparency and also the security to that. Somebody's credits whatever. They've earned are marching with them across different institutions across time. So I think that also seems like a big opportunity and the other thing I would say as an observation is just a tremendous amount of expertise insight commitment across the board. That's really impressive I think skill works has been a great addition to the conversation here. They're really focusing in on this challenge of imagine you know you're the consumer of education you are. You're just out of high school or you're looking. You're looking for that sort of credential or that community college you don't know what's the right path. We need people to help guide. You know that that is. It's it's crazy wild west of opportunities for people so imagine you know you're the consumer you have to figure out what the best pathway forward is. I think we need to find ways that we're actually providing the consumer with a real sense of what the supplies for educational opportunities. What those pathways are things. And I think that there are people in Colorado really thinking seriously about that. That's great. Yeah so wraparound services more than just daycare and other. It's actually sort of mentoring and the connectivity and the explication of what how to go after the the pathway it is pretty needlessly complex I did. It was interesting today. To hear folks say do away with the sat and act do an optional this year and but I think it was a metro state. That was suggesting they'd like to go that way. But as a public institution. They have a different process to go through to get the permission to do that. That's right that's a topic being debated across the country right. Yeah but removing those barriers generally to the ease with which folks can move across and focusing on skills which are derived from competition these right which are different than credentials. So also we see again. What can the private sector do here? A LOT OF FIRMS. I think of IBM FOR PEOPLE ARE SAYING. Okay enough. We're not going to start saying we gotta scan everybody who has a four year degree for take that away. What a really. What do people need here? And let's focus on that. As opposed to these credentials that have been really barriers to entry for a lot of people I know in the report is well. You talk about the fact that there's been this kind of proliferation of new stuff certificates or whatever it may be but the validation of the trust in those things is Is On trivial absolutely? I think that's right. I mean I think there's there's room there's risk of abuse in that situation and what we're promoting a lot is no surprise. Mit But we want a lot of evaluation. We want to take the data. We want to figure out. Okay you get a couple of stackable credentials. How does that compare to an associate's degree and what does it mean about your wages? Five years out ten years out and we can have examples. We have really good examples of programs that have worked so I think we you know we're not starting with a blank slate here and we should not throw the baby out with the bathwater. Blockchain become becomes of the repository record of who you are not just educational credentials. But what's happened by virtue of those credentials that becomes that becomes interesting as well as long as of course the individual has the ability to disclose or not that data. Yes that's a whole nother topic about data and ownership and things like that. Yeah you made a few policy recommendations or you were sort of suggesting some policy recommendations. I think before in the report. Could you just outlined quickly with those sure? First and foremost of course we talk about skills education and training. We talk about needing to really focus on this group between high school in the four year degree and and opportunities there and the rules of community colleges were the role of work based learning. And how important that seems to be. And so there's a lot that we have to say in that area also about evaluating some of this these new courses and things. I'm but the other point we make his skills and education and training are not enough. You know the idea skill. Them and the jobs will come is inadequate. We have to look at other areas too so one of the areas we speak to is this rebalancing of capital and labor. And when we talk about that were thinking in a couple of ways. I we have a tax system right now that really favors investment capital and those with capital for example we give an RND tax credit to companies which is great and it's proven to be really successful and important but what if we marry that with something that was an investment in human capital. And we think there's a real you know let's creatively about how we can really rebalance that relationship. The second dimension which is a little broader in thinking is that you know his since the nineteen seventies Milton Friedman etc. We have had a model that said for corporations. Public Corporations Shareholder Value. Is the most important thing you know returning value to the shareholder and. I think the tide has turned on that. And it's not just us but the business roundtable coming out and saying you know what we need to go back to what we had beforehand. Which was a stakeholder capitalism model where it wasn't just about the shareholder it's about the workers it's about suppliers it's about communities and all of them are invested in in the well being of of the company and long-term the company needs to be you know invested in these areas. So we talk about the need to rebalance on that as well as talk about. Stakeholder capital and that particularly workers need to be elevated in that in that area. The worker voice has basically declined significantly in this country. union decline that CETERA. And we don't say we don't know what that model should look like in the twenty first century but we can all point to from you know from the auto worker to the High Tech Worker. A lot of expression of worker dissatisfaction. A lot of expression of wanting a bigger voice in In how firms are making decisions and what they're deciding and so we think that's going to be a big theme for the Twenty First Century and we need to figure out how we can figure create something that collectively is going to be good for workers and good for business. Imagine now district. Human centered taxation. We moved through. That'd be amazing. Well I've got a few questions that we ask all of our guests and you're not allowed to prepare for any of these spring them on. You're just whatever comes out. It's totally fine. And we've got a great editor sitting in the other room so if we want to live. Ain't my savior. Yes and you don't have to sing at the end but if you want to sing at the end at the end because sometimes people do so these are not that I'll do. What are you curious about right now? great question. What am I curious about? You know I would say I guess sticking on point here. I'm curious about how we're thinking about closing the digital divide. I think that the pace of this change is so great that you know in a few short years people can really fall behind. And so we've been talking about this for decades. What are we going to do to kind of really up our game so that would be one area that I think is Is Sort of just becoming another dimension for us to really understand how we're GONNA Kinda get everybody on board for the next century guests recently was reformer with Cs for all initiative. That's a lot of what they're trying to address. Sort of if you can from pre k. all the way through lifelong have computing. Just be a thing. Computational literacy be thing that everybody does has then that is one of the ways that we have to opt that we can start addressing that divide. Great what's your favorite word. Ooh You know let's think So I let me think what's what's a good one. I you know I'm I'm I'm thinking of this book. I'm reading the over story right now. Which is really won the Pulitzer last year? And it's really fantastic and maybe I'm out in Colorado in the environment becomes really present in one's But there's this the word that I hadn't been familiar with or had remembered as a dry out which is kind of a nymph like character whose intertwined with trees right in with nature. And I guess as a if I could do like the the segue but the the relationship to work the future and The environment and sustainability. These things are not separate conversations. They're one in the same and so how we think about Preserving the environment dealing with climate change and the work of the future is It's a tall task. But it's really that's Kinda where we need to when we talk to our students. Now there's just been a market shift over the years if it doesn't if it's not mission aligned doesn't have to do with things like the sustainable development goals with the grand challenges or other. There isn't that kind of context. Then they're not gonNA have it and but if it does have that kind of context they will go deep and they'll be solution solvers in problem solvers forever right now and they're facing twentysomethings are facing a situation where we haven't dealt well with the environment we haven't dealt well with inequality. I mean there's not a lot for them to You know I think. They're going to be very activated by by these issues which is great for all of us. I think that's right. I think that we don't talk about it. We look like the diedd with. Die Ad Lots of the fact that they're not GonNa have a teacher right best tip for making the world a better place. Oh my God. He's all easy right. This is really this is really fun. Plan best tip for making the world a better place you know. I'm going to say something like what's the right term but nine connectivity because right now I feel it actively you know this is how we've actually found agencies connecting voices and all that on the flip side and we don't need to name names. We've had a problem with that too in terms of regulating or you know exacerbating extremism exacerbating fake news. And things like that. So we need to figure out a way to bring the best of this connectivity that we've basically developed in the last decade and and make it work for society in four humanity and not against it and I think just at the cusp of figuring that out a lot of talk about community organizing as kind of paradigm we need versus facebook and again not to call up facebook. But you did it not. It's totally my fault right. But how do you? How do you got that connection? But it's this digital anodyne aseptic oftentimes sort of amoral algorithm exactly. Well that's again the downside. We really need We need rules of the road for the use of the eye. And so far it's been again a little bit of the wild west and so I think that We really need to be taking that seriously whereas question. What single word with your friends from college have used to describe my. Gosh can't go live with that work could be. I think I'll just be a little bit more I would say. Let's see perhaps unpredictable. Yeah we'll leave it at that. I wouldn't have predicted that. Is You shared your data about the abilities. As you age today Antonyms sentiment. That's right you and I have. There's hope for us. Our guest has been Elizabeth Reynolds from from MIT. And WHO'S THE CO author of the Task Force report that was just issued in September on the work of the future? Wanted to thank you for the time. Thank you for visiting us as we tell all of our guests please move here. She can boy you make it look very attractive. Thank you thank you good to talk to you today. 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Forward Faster with Dean JB Holston and Ruthe Farmer

Forward Faster

33:18 min | 1 year ago

Forward Faster with Dean JB Holston and Ruthe Farmer

"They welcomed forward faster. A Limited series podcast from the University of Denver's School of Engineering and computer science. Join Dean J. B. Halston as he thought leader on hot topics in higher education and the future of work definitely. This is J. B.. Hilton the dean of Engineering and Computer Science at University of Denver and this is our podcast series. which for the moment? We're calling forward faster until until my guest today gives us a better title for it which will ask her to do? My guest is Ruth farmer who is the chief evangelist for CS for all which is a the Hashtag become a cause that we're happy to talk about here and Roof welcome good you. It's great to be here thanks. You're off the road which is nice for a couple days for a couple of days. I'm sure that's about as long as it gets payments. Yeah Yeah Let's talk a little bit about you and your background on in how you came to this kind of work and then we can talk a little bit more about about the word because it's an interesting combination of kind of advocacy and policy It's a real kind of modern mishmash of a lot of interesting things so I have a really circuitous and kind of non traditional background. I I'm not a computer scientist. I'm not an engineer. Actually have a background in marketing. Communications I like to say that instead of becoming an engineer manufacturing engineers uh-huh and I kind of got into this because I was doing actually marketing and communications work for Machinery Company. They made down line plastics automation and machinery. I now and so like when you make a plastic bottle you have to cut the neck off oriented all these things and when I was working working there I kind of learned to speak engineer and I kind of like hey. If this was different it could be modular. We could change it and after that job I spent some time. I always done sort of nonprofit. Pro Bono work in marketing and communications and I spent some time supporting nonprofits in their fundraising and then The job came up at the girl scouts and the girl scouts had just We're just starting to launch a focus on stem in. This was like two thousand one and I was fortunate enough to be in Portland Oregon where Intel's largest office was and got to be the pilot site for a big program called design and discovery which we later scaled to sixty three girl scout councils. The Irish public schools country of Israel whole thing and so I kind of found found that like the combination of stem education in my fundamental beliefs. Feminism came together really well in this idea of like. What is the one place that I can help? Girls get that is going to get them. The most economic freedom they get to contribute to the world of innovation and make the world a better place which is really what girl scouting is about. Um Yeah well. That's great. Well that is the not expected path to becoming chief evangelist for and then Take from there. Because this organization itself is technically only existed for a few years in a way so see us for all is a national nonprofit focused on on rigorous inclusive sustainable computer science for all students. And that's in and out of school. Like what is the three hundred sixty experience that all kids have where it's totally normal right and expected that they do computing and so there's been a movement bubbling for a while and I really started started focusing clearly on computer science when I joined the National Center for Women in it which is here at cu boulder in Colorado. which is what brought me to Colorado after graduate twit school and they'd been at that time like Oh there's not an women in computer science? Will we quickly realized. There's just not enough computer science in K.. Twelve we are not enough women. There's not enough boys. There's not enough anyone because there was a real decline in the availability of computer science in K.. Twelve and there's a lot of reasons for that got so there's been a lot of sort of points of light and people working around the nation on this issue and then in two thousand sixteen. President Obama announce a computer science for all initiative as the final initiative of his administration but before that Chicago had announced Cs for all Chicago New York irk shortly thereafter had announce his New York so there was already a move by a number of communities to make this happen. And now it's got a name and it's has got some legs on it and so coming out of the Obama Administration and deciding what I was going to do next. I joined with an organization called Altius. NYC and Together we sort of pivoted. There're really really successful model of bringing computer science to New York City public schools also outward to replicate that around the nation. Right got it cool after what you open your water bottle. Oh It's already opened awesome. Oh Yeah House afraid we're GONNA have you keel over there in the middle of the conversation. which is the thing that never do? podcast yes But so take me through the New York example or Chicago. Whatever one you think is working well and contrast that with Colorado which may be working well doc well they're all unique in in Chicago? It was like one giant school district and there was a pivotal person in that school district. Brenda Brendan Wilkerson. Who was pushing for this to happen and then it happened to be that Mayor Rahm Emanuel was the mayor you know and there were the confluence of things in New York? It was actually Two People Fred Wilson and Evan Korth prisoner board right. Yeah he's our our chair or something Jeremiah's or something Um Fred is venture capitalists and invest money in computers in startups and. He was finding lack of talent. That was coming out of the The New York public schools. Evan is faculty at Nyu and and so together. They kind of see if this idea of like. Let's do a computer science high school and then they started to think about route. Okay what does it look like for all kids to get some computer science and so now the New York public schools actually at every sort of major grade band you will experience computing. It's by no means yet you know. Pervasive and equal for everyone. But it is there and so I think it's the biggest school system in the in the United States. So saying we're going to change the public schools that's a big undertaking and it's a multi million dollar undertaking Colorado is unique in the the level of local control in this state is very Right down to the level of a high school principal so a lot of states have been like we now count computer science towards a math or science credit but it took Colorado a long time because is for them to comply with that. They would have to override this local control and so there are some challenges around that I Know Colorado has put together together a statewide strategic plan. And now that we've got governor. WHO's actually a computer scientists? It May Move US further faster. I don't think we've actually put any state level funding into building this pipeline But we need to. I mean if you look at the industries that are pouring into Colorado and the growth here the telecom telecom and the tech of course we need to and Wyoming beat us to the Punch Wyoming passed statewide legislation for computer science like two years ago so we should get a little competitive with our numbers on the. I'm totally tweeting. tweeting jared that Wyoming. Two Years Ahead You're behind come on man. You know you've been going on over eleven months or whatever. Let's get on with this but from a funding perspective. What what is the funding? Do I I mean what does it kick start to pay for training for prospect. The teacher is what's the well. Okay so we need funding for teachers to be in in classrooms obviously And if you think about you know the sheer volume of math teachers that we have in the world. We have a tiny fraction of computer science teachers. I also had this Aha moment a few years ago and I'm like you know what there's a whole lot of former math teachers who are now principles. There are virtually no principals who I used to be computer science teachers right so like principles understand math right. And it's something we've we've had forty years to agree on what Algebra is and for a long time computer. Peter Science was in this problem with nomenclature and definition and like what is computer. Science will kids. You're playing with robots great. That's computer science. or No we have a networking class. That's computer science. So Oh or we're we're learning Microsoft word which is terrible for them to think that that is computer science and so Teachers being prepared as part of it but not just like taking one class to teach but like becoming experts in the discipline and we're in a weird place because almost every other disciplined you go you study history in college. Then you become a history teacher. Our likelihood of filling the halls of our schools with teachers who have undergrad degrees in computer science is close to zero. So we're repurposing existing teachers physics teachers math teachers librarians other people that are interested and willing to take this on on but the big sticking point in the thing that universities need to be doing is. There's no nothing is happening. In Pre service like we we have failed to create a pipeline of PHD's of see US education to teach teachers to teach sets so there is some legislation coming Down the Pike. Soon that we've heard about that's coming from representative kilmer in Washington called the computing teacher. Act I believe that is to fund tenors of excellent at schools of education. Because we just don't have people qualified to teach teachers how to teach computer Peter Science. We have computer science faculty yourselves at universities who teach computer science to undergraduates but that is not the same teaching at teacher teach computer science so the call called action. I think for the universities is we need meaningful relationships between colleges of Ad and colleges a computer science and we need to start start developing that pipeline of faculty that will populate the College head so when we talked with our colleagues in the college who had about that sort of thing. One of the This is I'm GonNa be skis here momentarily so you can correct me. But one of the things they say at least in Colorado is that I'm GonNa get the terminology the certification and so I did totally wrong because you're nodding. But there is some certification issue. It isn't category yet that is sufficiently certified again. That's probably long has has been pretty much a national trend in that. Why would a college of education trained teachers to teach something? They can't get certified to teach right right and in some states people who were qualified teachers and other states had them go get a masters just so they could legally teach. Yeah yeah that's the sort of thing and so it's like okay. You get the standards and then you get the certifications but meanwhile ten years have gone by and now we are continue pumping out teachers. Who Don't know anything so one strategy that I've seen be really successful as that Michigan State. They took about like Ed Tech. You know educational technology basics class that all teachers take and they transform that class. Because if you're learning to become a teacher during get your master's in teaching you don't need to be told how to use Microsoft word. Thank you should know how to do that by then so that class. That is like training teachers. On how to use technology tools we can start to infuse some computing in there and I think a big part of our problem as a community has been this conflation of Ed Tech and technology education. The belief that technology existing in school equals computer science being taught and And I hear it all the time people like oh well. My daughter's on her ipad all day long doesn't mean she's learning anything about computing and Just like riding. A bus doesn't mean you're learning how to drive the bus and so because technology is an enabler of so many other things things often the school district's when they're looking at the budget they're like we're spending all this money on

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Trailer: Join the Nationwide Manhunt for Lester Eubanks

Have You Seen This Man?

02:28 min | 1 year ago

Trailer: Join the Nationwide Manhunt for Lester Eubanks

"There was a murder in central Ohio that many people still don't want to talk about the man who committed that crime once sat on death row but now he's on the run his name is less museum this map you've seen this man have you seen this man coming up Tober twenty third this fugitive cases in American history now they may be closer than ever from ABC News have you seen this man. Small Group of inmates were granted permission to walk outside prison walls his handcuffs were taken off he changed into civilian clothing writings and every turn found resistance from those who want lesser eubanks to be forgotten what they've uncovered is a case through eubanks Lester didn't tunnel out of prison or scale stonewall on December morning in nineteen seventy three he and zig needed meeting spot hours later all the inmates came back except Lester eubanks and he hasn't been seen since it seemed like no one was even looking for Leicester but recently his whereabouts have become the focus of the US Marshall Service the federal agents who track ABC News over the past year a team from the ABC News Investigative Unit Join the search for Leicester Eubanks they uncovered new leads possible fugitives the case is testing the marshalls does not enlarge running out we're going to catch up with lesser and is being urged on by those hurt most by lester and he and three others were driven to a local mall they were told they could wander the stores and were asked to return to a dead that's about more than murder it's about family loyalty a life on the run and a first hand look at how the US marshals are trying to solve one of the old crime he's had enough free time he confessed to the crime and his time is up. I'm Sunny Halston with. Let's get a full plan a astounded that this could actually happen

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The Sherpa Screening Room: Meet Shannan Wilson! (featuring a bonus music track)

Too Many Podcasts!

39:26 min | Last month

The Sherpa Screening Room: Meet Shannan Wilson! (featuring a bonus music track)

"Hey what's up this. Christopher of rome the missed. Entertainment the podcast. You're listening to is part of the s. J network go to s dash j dash network dot com. That's s. dash j dash network dot com for more great podcast and information on those shows as well as information and able ability to contact. Publicist steve joyner. For more information. Go to a website and check out the family ladies and gentlemen then enjoy the show. Hey bill today's guest. Shannon wilson is going to be in halston on net flicks. Wouldn't it be fun to wear designer clothes all day. I wouldn't know we're only voice. Bonds what would i know about fancy labels. I guess you're right she also works for. Qvc you can buy clothes there. What a great idea. I'll do that now. Blow high qbc. I'd like to order one exercise bicycle. Three thousand spaghetti trainers and snuggie. Something tells me. I don't even want to hear an explanation. Can you offer some better jokes. Attention rebels of the shirt pollution. Today's podcast is being brought to you by audible. You can get a free audiobook. Download and a thirty day free trial at www dot audible trial dot com slash sherpa. There are over one hundred eighty thousand titles to choose from for your iphone android kindle or mp three player. And now mr bruce will lead you into the sherpa chalet as a reminder. Please don't disturb the ac coming to you from scheppach. La beautiful downtown man podcast. It's time for entertainment interviews in the sherpa screening room grab a nile seat and a bucket of popcorn at don't crunch too loud or you'll miss the show. Now he's your host. James duh podcast vais and welcome to the show for screening room. It's me jim the broadcast sherpa. And we've got a wonderful guest today. We had so much fun talking a lot of fun with my guests. All the time donated and today is no exception. Her name is shannon wilson. She's been a dj a model a singer and most importantly she's an actress and he is currently appearing in the movie snow babies. It's movie about drug addiction. Really powerful stuff. Now you would think a lady in such serious roles would be very serious but that was not the case with shannon. We had so much fun so much laughing. Of course what else happens here at the show screaming. What's having lots of fun. I think you're going to enjoy hearing about this lady and keep an eye out for her because she is really counted so without any further. Ado let's have a listen to my conversation with shannon wilson. Hello there herbals. We are here of course in the sherpa screening room. And you know it's a small room but there's a lot of talent in here. That's kind of crowd mean with my guest today. Her name is shannon wilson. She is an actress. An author a songwriter singer. She's been a model. He's been a dj. She's a producer. You hope sit on. Qvc is that right here host more. I'll be there tomorrow actually. Model the fashion different products for started out as a model for. You were acting right. Yes i the avenue on five ten by ten thirteen. And i went to the shopping mall in houston at the northwest and they had earned. It was the gallery at had a modeling contest. So i entered it in the agency likely into beyond so that i started modeling at that age. Pretty young you never you get your little segment on. Qvc like what would you do without these. Get only wish. No i all because they were really hard those out. The hosts and hostesses are all the time they were their butts off. And i'm really not that hard of a worker. It sounds like you listed all out. It sounds overachiever. But that was all done. During a long period of time it wasn't it was his last week or anything in years is the making originally. You're from texas. Yes from houston. And i don't hear a southern twang in you at all. Did you lose it or did you not have a thick one or now did as i said the other day you put a red solo cup in my hand with beer in it they will come right back just for an expired thousand i i. My friend moves to utah when we were thirteen or fourteen out to visit her in utah in ogden. Utah and i was the first time in my family's also from the carolinas from south carolina and that was the first time someone said with the way they looked at me. Listen how she talks. Oh my gosh. What did you just say scindia voters that it was the first time somebody pointed out that i had an accident. Which was you know. It's a life changing. You think you you think you're talking like everybody else. So i'll never forget that like i guess especially when you're specific regions to people and your and your ad that region then all of a sudden you sound so foreign to everybody else either on the utah. I mean they had never experienced anybody from houston nor experienced anybody from offense so who is a mutual fascination between the two cultures and it was we. Were taking your your mom and your dad were. Both teachers did they. Teach in the same school no My mom my mom time catholic schools. She also tired public schools. When i was a kid. Dad started teaching later. When i was in middle school or high school. He always wanted to be a history teacher and he actually just passed away at three about a month ago. He could anything about history the war. Who's just bookish about. Die in really instilled in me the love history. So he was. He was a high school history teacher in an inner city school and just really loved it that passion for it. We were saying earlier before we started recording. The both of us are surrounded by teachers in our families and this is a real time for them right now man. I can't thank our teachers enough for what they're going through any teaching our kids and making sure they're they're on top of things. They are a lot of their own kids at home. I mean the teachers last year. The end of the at got ray gifts for the her from from us for my family because you were so appreciative. Everyone thinks of teachers absolutely so to shannon career. Little bit so the modeling was probably the start in your public exposure. Yeah i always. I'm kinda shy person. Believe it or not that. I always wanted to do feed her. I actually with my mom to be state willing. Wish you were a stage. Mom would have given anything but she was so opposite of that and there was a theater. Great theater program in houston but we couldn't afford it. I remember seeing so sad we can. I couldn't take classes there despite being Plays to be awesome. I never really pursued acting full-time endow about six years ago. Went into newark. Until my husband. I said i think weren't us. I wanna take classes learn from great teachers and so it's of late late starter. You could say but always been fascinated by yes for dancing. I think was a runway. The of people that i liked. I liked that. But i didn't necessarily do that. Do i mean my whole life. I had a company where wasn't in the public eye at all out that you you're running your own business. Also right yeah. I learned a new delay for a couple of years. And i did a lot of runway at work and learned about this whole promo world reeds to be a brand ambassador promoted items. Pass how things and i have a lot of money in. La as many people don't and so. I learned how to. I learned about promotional business. When i moved to the east coast. I started my own company stock for marketing companies. For a long time. He had employees in an office. This was allie business. So is it can experience after you do the modeling. Then you started doing some theater work. What was your first major screen production. You remember or your vision. Only got i really. The arrested did some improv. But i should have done better. Yes my first audition for the michael j. fox shipu. The being i'm gonna dishes. Did lowly hiding agent philadelphian. Our team will do local spots and commercials. in new. york's big time ray. I got called in for the michael. J. fox show which was about six years ago. That was my first audition with russ meyerson. Forget he was the first person that called me for role Shows i can't even tell you and you just don't book them but then those same casting directors will call you back in different parts. You may get a callback. You may get pen for the role. They cancelled the roles of all. These things can happen. That's why it takes so much love by pounding the pavement and do the part in elementary. Right you played a sniper or a female mercenary mercenary. my biggest. I was so excited. When i booked that that was with mark sacks casting who cast good wife and yeah i was. That was my first big attack. Years ago through modeling agency. With david. Morris was on. Cbs and now is my first television rule. But i wasn't pursuing acting someone. I poked alimentary. Like i've understood for so many parts. I'm so happy to book. This is his two It was words but it was my first time on on a television sad series with with all of these people so that was that was really an exciting time. And i saw the scene. The you look like kick them series. But we i mean and i was so nervous earlier i mean literally had to sit in a closet with jonny lee miller the star of elementary that was built talent and then we're off to the side of the sat in a little room closet size like broom closet so i had to walk out of the onto the said and in the room with him and i was so nervous that i was sweating and relating does to know anyone investment by two words and i think to him i said He said only really sweaty. He's like that's nice. How was trying to remain cool and collected. Because i really like him as an actor. So was great and also. I just noticed something you when you went to college. You were a nighttime grunge. Yes yay ninety one. Kfi did you have like a gay name or did you use your own shanta funny because my sister is six years younger than i am and she married a guy from nacogdoches texas where my college was and he remembers me. He's like oh. My god we listen to you all the time because i had it ten pm twelve. Am our grunge was pearl. Jam and grunge and enriches so on to be a college dj at that time with that music nirvana and that was a really good experience. Could you do a little sample of you. May be introducing like a like a ninety dollars grunge any matter and coming up with pearl jam that better dissidents one of my favorite songs tracks you guys talking about here in the day with a record so i remember like the record skipping did you ever. Dj i tell you to story one time. I was dj jiang and it was a cd player. And when i was playing the bride and groom song. The song was skipping so it was like okay. Are you going to dance fast. Aurora say we grab during their dance. So i think a lot more than my armpits hilarious. It happens and i was looking at your resume. And i see that you can do. I know you can put you have to put down like every skill that you have. You do a long island and russian accent. Would you please grace with. Did you have to combine them the problem so you're saying about any of that so anyway it was walking down the street. Thought he'd better pass me. He's literally like five. Till i mean fire to by ten. He like literally came up to my waist but he was so looking. So that's like a long island accent. And then you want to rush in rush. I only hope for concerts concerts rush if they are not concerts. And shall we go but we do not know klein like we got some of your movies. Because i know there's so many snow babies that just came out recently on amazon video on apple. Tv can you can stream it that way. This is supposed to be theaters with covid at but and you play the mother of a drug addicted donor. Yes she's a sixteen year old sweet kind. Straightway catholic school overall and he is a declare janna quite a mom and it's a very intense though to do is independent by first feature that i bought. I'm really proud of a female director. Smith and mike walsh wrote it. And they just didn't want to research on on x and had their stories incorporated that into films People see is real life. I mean it seems dramatic stories. They took so yeah. It was a great experience that i hope that we hope that helps people. Didn't you do movie. Were you also play the drug addict addicted to drugs. I have cancer. Yeah and my father had dementia but we were in that. One of that went to a lot of festivals. That was the short film and that was. I love playing that part. Because i were wigging out a ball at for wine on a lot of additions where you look a certain way or they you kind of get pigeonhole which is fine. A mind that if it's helping me get work. But i'm seeing now where i can be can look how i wanna to look haggard. I wanna be able to look tired or have these roles. Where other than the right one of comes. I was addicted to opioids. Yes as a pulp offer from eighties. Yes i hear a wounded deer. Okay yeah i wrote down with a question mark next yourself right. Yes even rosenberg at that. Yes of course. I mean it's interesting. You know facing the topic of drug addiction on really both parts where you're pair or someone to ordinary your the addict yourself. That must be something for your mindset when you when you have to film scenes like that where there's just so intense and yeah snow babies. The one for the opioid is the pill hopper. It was short film so it was done. We went to michigan up in michigan. Nowhere restarted in this cap and yes. That was tired of some snow. Maybe longer shoot. I had really deal with water content and fourteen year old daughter so my daughter in sixteen so this to visualize Katie kelly place daughter. Such a great actress that i had ptsd scenes. You really had to go to places emotionally and how kids two teenagers it was. I came home. And i'm like don't you our try. You don't ever have never take more pain medication scary. Yeah i guess yeah especially as a parent. You're playing apparent in that situation than coming on your own kids. Yes that reality. Just kinda stabbed at it does it say was yeah. It was scary. There were Tire to snow babies in. There's a reason for that because the siegburg reshot sometimes out of order so it'd be like really testing. We're headed cry. Ally in deals a lot of emotion in wrap it up you know he can just turn that off and then we had to go shoot something where i'm happier with my head for five minutes and you're going to be in upcoming netflix's show called halston and could you tell a little bit a little little bit about that yes. Fat halston was a iconic seventies fashion designer. He was just unbelievable. Really innovative fashion best friends with liza minnelli and was really part of the new york scene in the seventies and you mcgregor is playing halston ryan murphy production and i'm lucky enough to have booked on apart on that show and the person that i'm working with my husband had been announced his name yet but he's been around a really long time someone that everybody knows and he is. The nicest person has been in. It is so content. That's an intimidating situation. Walk into sure especially when when halston had being played guy who played. Obi wan kenobi and he was so sweet moment one day. They got shut down because the kobe monday but he was very nice. He he's he's very sweet. And i find i find most people really are the especially the ones that have been around a one time that i've come into contact with or maybe have parents that are pretty famous are really really down to earth. Really nice. that's good to know. And also i know a lot of pending projects Everything held up because of covid but a lot of things. We'll probably be seeing the light of day hopefully next year. Yeah next year and twenty one. Yeah and twenty twenty an hour thirty Announce starting to cape auditioned spell before you had to go into offices but it's it's neat to see for anybody who wants to get into acting better. Old army unite started late. I was so much older than everybody else. You try on their early twenties but on the pavement you work hard and your digital editions may have no words you don t just act something out and then you'll slow lazy chip away. You start seeing progressions. It's pretty cool in you. Also doing movie cold finding christmas. Yes that's Babies so that'll be a christmas movie. And i play martina the white of the mob boss from south philly philly conceal they philly. I love accents. I i can do many accidents for me. So i'm going to be like addressed. Adriana from sopranos are the also used to play a really fun character. It's interesting. I mean as you're talking about all these different parts you're probably going to be hard for them to pigeonhole. You'd probably just do whatever role you can said you're feeling she said you're chameleon because i feel it can be a little material and think at first was where people like upper east side woman the affluent country club which is not me late. My mom was a single mom. I love loco bars. I mean i can hang out with. I just love theme rights. That's really me so bad and waiting tables right. You have to embark on. You'd be able to talk anybody. That's a that's absorbing people in place bartending. Absolutely we can get another italian actors. Yes would have a very big part in that That stars markman chata markman chocolate chocolate china. Ozark in. he's been a of stop. He's such a good actor. That's a horror movie and that's the same producer from snow babies also too. They were nice enough to put me in. I in a bit part once you get somebody you got engaged. That's due to promote your career. Than that i loved them. Cato said gonna retaliate. Who should she coming out. Next year. your first time producer for the obscured yes thriller and i was looking for something to produce Ns woman who. I really like on twitter. Our and proposed. She's one just a bunch of awards lords done so many things in so i reached out to her and she's still looking for a little bit more funding and help as producer. So i jumped on board and stuff that the concept is really smart week. it sounds and she said I really liked it. So if you'll be on on the other side of the camera. For the first time. I think i think i like it. You know there's less pressure the pressure when on the camera. I some of the stuff that i've shooting coming up for one of my shows. I'm really nervous about. It's a big scene in its with. You know think. I thought about nonstop you. Just don't stop thinking of us wanna do a good job right anything that you do and he just want to show that you could be agreeing new to the neck. Newer to this. In many people also said approve. Prove yourself yeah you know. I think people sometimes their career only really kind of started flourishing like within the past few years. But it's it's fine. I guess once he kinda hit the ground running and you understand what's behind that momentum as you're doing more things it just becomes a lot more comfortable in the probably in a faster fashion when we would you say so by us to more comfortable. I think that you don't feel like you're chopping block in the business times where you like at anytime. He could be fired. Or they'll cut your part and a radio shack commercial Radio shack marcel ryan from entire christmas. And i made job of my husband. I said oh my gosh. The radio shock. Mersal runs every time. It wasn't gonna go. Ching ching my car cut out. So i don't watch the commercial. They run for a month. And a half and i was. I didn't the residuals from itself as one. Somebody only wants my manager. Said never tell anybody. You're something really until you see yourself. Offscreen cutting room floor absolutely. I mean there've been lots of scenes even with with a lot more famous actors to like. I know what kevin costner costner. Famously in the big chill was asked to being there. There were a few other ones too. I know that's alliance talks about filming Filling movie Two weeks or something in the she wasn't in any of it so i looked up. One time after suv been cut from parts. I probably look after greg radio shock and there are a lot bad that you would it make sense. I did a short film and where scenes was cut and it makes complete sense. I saw it didn't make sense with the rest of the movie. So sometimes he can't take it personally. You know our story line didn't line up with at and they were trying to move this way along. So sometimes they sort of say give continuity and and sometimes you don't want that subplot that they might feel takes away two times. I understand that yeah. It's not the actor It's not not reasons so remember that when it happens to you growing also. I know that you like to write and you actually have a published book. Will the littlest peanut. Ooh this was based on personal experience. Yes both my kids were premature so created after being in the running that if you re time and i have written poetry. There were no baby books. If you have preemies at the time were baby books that match the milestones that premature baby house first time changed their diaper for Hold them when they got off their c-pap us. All those things are important. Parents premiums created a book. My brother-in-law illustrated net and it. Certainly but you fill out for baby for premiums. Get a lot of feedback on that from people who've who've experienced that as well with worse yes i mean i published at about five years ago. Our fourth addition. Yes a my on the reviews on amazon. They're always so sweet I do have one star for a woman. i swear. don't court she just saying it's been there for like five years. She bizzare page. Which is i mean. She told i trying to get that review and they don't amazon the logic that review and it may not like meeting today. This is funny story. I got off by someone driving a subaru today again. Their license plates at hippos. It just cut me off Turned into the sea as becoming an attorney who said yes and they're licensed hippos away sieber on hip us licensed. You might not want to approach that car i started. I was so mad when i started cracking up. That's a potential song. Hippopotamus into subaru. The environmentalists hippo and you also a songwriter and we were talking earlier that you do have some songs on itunes and spotify people wanna check it out under your name under shannon milk. Yeah at the yes. They can go on the some of them. I realized yesterday the dot. They're older than time though so fast. So i i one asia write songs. I found out there is a music guy. That was a studio musician. Nashville with the and brad caisley nashville for all the years in tower over for me so unbelievable pilots sixty sixty by john heffernan until he proves the songs and some guitarist but not like he is. I texted him yesterday. And i said i haven't. I saw a report. I haven't worked for a few years. So i'm excited to write anyone. Sure routed i just needed recorded. And i was telling shannon. I was checking out some of the songs last night. And it's definitely like a country folk kind of vein if you like country folk music and it's really good stuff thank you. I advise everybody to check out her pages on spotify and applebee's thank you so it's fair to what is next for shannon wilson shoot. It will start. I'll start working on halston for alexa. And then i don't know just take it day by day. I mean like. I said i'm a qb. Tomorrow i'm gonna do fashion modeling and you can't this present day. I'm working on being grateful for what happened now in terms of like my kids and all about work and not try to walk more is that makes sense only balance. Yeah think i'll have gotten auditioned in our our had some additions. And then you you know my manager will say oh they moved you up and casting hear anything back in have to remember just to be great stuff. I have not tried to because everything's moving a little bit slower these days so i don't know what's next. We'll see maybe our cortisone there you go. Well the hippo subaru idea are you gonna do s siesta chills. Me in the subaru. Cut me off. And i was going to. Cbs because of my cough higher uranium. My next song shiver studio presents presents. Her name for the podcast. That'll work all right. So why don't we let everybody know where the people can follow you on social media. And if they wanna learn a little bit more about us while we kind of touched a lot of things on the surface and there's there's so much more to be found thank you Yeah they can go mishaan. Fha in a n wilson and that will pop up all of my stuff. You know the book and the music and my immediate package. Follow me on twitter. In as a nick wilson. But i try to be better about social media. I'm good at it. Like people come up with such witty stuff to say. And i just i start writing something Stupid so i just don't really so you know what i mean. I've you're asking career being stupid. Know you're not stupid but twitter h. Theory tweeting winning way stuff. Not most tweets are like when we're done. I will go on twitter. And i'll say oh. I talked to janet wilson. Yeah but there's sort of a by weird sense of humor in there somehow check out. I like weird sense of humor. You a big fan of british humor. Yeah oh my god my raise. My dad's my kids monty python. John cleese their whole the way they deal with death and the hewer in. That is just brilliant. Sure on monty python. Did you watch fawlty towers and the towers is that. That's another one in. What's the other are those. Were nice to watch cold. Are you being served. And it was a store it was about a british show and it was about the people that work in the store. Oh amy surf so what happens watching the story than it was like being sued the whole kind of british class. You know how they operate department stores and it's it's very different from what we would see in the. Us is the intelligence level of money python. Those guys just so smart and still are still john. Cleese east cracks me up when he is on. Talk show is ready to step. I was hearing him talk about his mother. The other day is going to have her stuff and put her in a quarter. Because i told her that she was like ooh and then he said my mother must be so hard to be ninety. Two when you get up in the in the nursing how you go get your custody and you come back in the plus you're talking to you is dead and the custer is funny about that whole funny and something completely different if you definitely want to check out of work mike. Young check out his website and keep an eye open for snow babies. because it's going to be some powerful stuff there amway. We will be keeping our fingers crossed with halston mr. We won a great mystery husbands that you can't say who it is yet. Stern husband santa wilson. Thank you so much for coming down to the sheriff's screening room. I glass thank you for having me. Hello there zits me jim. The podcast sharper interrupting my own. Podcast which you know about another podcast. That i've worked on. It's a little mini series five episodes coal too many eighty songs and i didn't work on it alone. I got a lot of help. With my buddy bruce you know him better as mr bruce and me here with by far podcast call too many eighty songs and talk about what else eight songs. And it's just a lot of unscripted conversation. No other silliness little trivia and a lot of music so please check it out. New episodes debut. Monday four or five weeks through january and february and you can hear all the songs exclusively on spotify. That's the only place that's playing the two eighty eight hundred songs. Shout little hint. If you don't get to hear disown merit hired on spotify. Check my social media pollution on instagram twitter facebook for the late to all the so we looted in some that. We didn't predict fan of as easy. And you've got a special eighties request or dedication. Send it to me and we get enough requests. We're going to come back and do special request and dedication shelf. Hope you listen if you enjoy it so much unless you're pollution up from you hired a phone don't wanna be then cloudiness in my head fades and i'm left with my day full of didn't make wrong honestly. No credits pamphlet there glass. I keep on goldens futures past pray info. Gold nepad a month sifting through the with another. But hope 'cause i know you is a strain from new console far a drama focus on just one Sometimes carnot beauty and grace zone out there some away. Now old three info go to nepal mud sifting through the rocks with nothing. Hope because i know you exist as estranged from looking so far the trying to folkestone just swamped gold and the puddle. The mud through the rocks. With because i do you from the trans folks own. Just one me absolutely. Nothing but hole exists john onto me. Patch dot com there. You have it. and thanks. So much to shannon wilson for coming on down to the screening room had so much fun with her and we will be back with another show for you you know what. If you like the shell favor. Go on apple podcasts. Or stitcher dot com or iheartradio and leave a nice little review about the show by the word about the sharp aleutian. We can do that right. Shore and if you wanna check this show out online you can go to my website. Sharp pollution dot com. Okay mr bruce. I guess were done with today's interview. You know what. Let's head on out in a subaru. And let's make sure there are no hippos inside of it. 'cause you know they tend to take up a lot of room in the back seat see rebels. Next time vivo sharp pollution. Thanks for listening to the ship. A screening room. Don't forget to subscribe right review and share this podcast. I'm mr bruce and this has been a sherpa loose studios production viva la chapelle aleutian.

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MBA1685 Q&A Wednesday: How often should I increase my rates?

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MBA1685 Q&A Wednesday: How often should I increase my rates?

"Welcome to the show powerful business insights delivered every day with their daily tentative. Is lessons for the real world. I'm your host your coach or teacher. Omar's home almost all the co founder of the hundred dollar. Nba company visits training and community online over one zero zero nba dot net in. Today's episode is a q. And a. wednesday episode on our cuny wednesday episodes. We answer a questions from one of you one of our listeners. If you have a question you want to ask. Just email me over at omar at one zero zero. Nba dot net taste. Question is from doug and doug asks pale more. Love the podcast. I run a website. Development firm is just me in my virtual assistant been listening to you for over a year. Now and i got a question. How often should increase my rates. I haven't increased my rates in over eighteen months. My work is getting better and better. And i'm getting more and more clients. I don't want to turn away clients. They've been working with me for some time. If i increase my rates but at the same time i know i should be earning more with. Love your advice on this topic. Thanks so much duck. Doug thanks tracking this question. It's really really important to reevaluate your pricing. Especially if you're in the service industry especially if you're delivering the service you're getting better and better and you're delivering a better service so therefore your price should reflect that. This is similar to anybody. Who's in any job. A junior developer is going to get paid less than a senior one and experienced accountant or lawyer. Doctor will be more expensive than one just out of university hor medical school you get the point but in today's lesson we're going to really go deep. We're going to talk about increasing prices. How to do it but how often do it. And how much of an increase. You make me a lot to cover. So let's get into it. Let's get down to business. Support city show comes from start. Your first online business might all new ten part audio course on himalayan learning this is of course is to get you from zero to one. That's going to get you from thinking about your business to actually launching that business getting it out of your head and into the real world. Recover things like validating your idea creating your first product pricing it marketing financing your business even creating your business website and more check it out and himalayas dot com slash nba and use code nba to get a fourteen day. Free trial began the tamila dot com slash. Nba promo code nba. So doug asks on cuny wednesday. How often should i increase my rates. Last time doug increases rates it was all over eighteen months ago. So it's in my opinion time to do so. I actually think the maximum time. You should wait before you increase. Prices is eighteen months actually. I think you're just at the point where you really really really should be increasing prices. Especially if you're doing regular work this whole time the value you're giving your customers day in and day out now project after project is getting better and better every day and therefore you should be charging more for the increased value. I want to address A little bit of doug's of raising his prices he does own a ternary his existing customers. Ona discourage them from working with him again. I want to tell you from a customer's point of view. Who hires a lot of freelancers. That hires a lot of employees. If i work with somebody who delivers who. I come back and work with again and again. My biggest concern is not really them. Increasing the prices. My biggest concern is that they're not gonna be able to do. The work might have to find somebody else. That's really my worry paying a little bit more in order to get the same town. Does he get the consistency to get what i expect. Is a very very small price to pay. Many people. Don't realize that from a company's point of you from our point of view consistency is so important knowing what you're gonna get Having expectations and having them fulfilled this is incredibly valuable them so they don't wanna let that go and if you say hey My prices have gone up by raise. Gone up it's not out of this world. You know this is normal. Anybody who believes the service or create any kind of content. You know musician makes more money today than they did. Three years ago because they've gotten better as a musician or an athlete or any kind of professional. Like i mentioned a doctor lawyer. A service provider plumber and again from my perspective as somebody who's hiring somebody to do a service. I'm okay with paying more. If i'm getting good work done. I actually found that higher rates are not discouraging to actually things. I look out for actually want somebody who charges a bit more for example. Your website developers. Somebody comes to me and says hey you know. I charge eighty dollars an hour. You know that might seem expensive. But that person charges eighty dollars. An hour is experienced. The know what they're doing and they're probably going to be able to complete the project faster more efficiently And more accurately than somebody who's charging maybe half that forty dollars an hour depres is going to take a lot longer is going to have a lot more roadblocks and may not be able to do the project as well as somebody who is charging much more so sometimes you actually save money in the long run and serious buyers who aren't so price sensitive are the kind of customers you want to attract so in the long run increasing. Your prices are really going to help you. Increasing your rates so minimum increase their prices every eighteen months. You can even do it every year. But that's kind of my recommendation chain a year eighteen months now how to do this well. It's very simple the next time you engage with customer you can just mentioned it. Hey by the way last time this was my rate since then i've increased my rate. It's currently this over this project. It's going to cost x. Amount of money and stop talking or stop writing a lot of people that go on and on. Is that okay with you. I hope that's okay once you is that okay with you. Ask a question. Is that okay. That is opening up a negotiation. Because they can say well actually you know if you just say it as a fact. This is my right now. This is how much it cost now. And there's no question at the end of it people gonna be like okay. That's what i gotta do now. Many service providers have done a to type pricing strategy to. I think is really good Actually increase the prices for new customers at one rate and recurring customers or a returning customers than others. So for example they'll take their rate in the increase by twenty percent. That's the new price for new customers so people that don't know any better. You know know your first price. Best the price they know and four returning customers. It's fifteen percent and you can mention this to your returning customer. Because a hey buy. New prices are twenty percent higher. My new rate is such and such but I can give you a return customer discount so it will be so so and so it'll be only fifteen percent more the shows that you respect loyalty and appreciate their business and then hey you're giving them a little something special. How much should you increase. Will it depends on how often you increase your rates. Let's say for example you're increasing. Every year i would say no less than five percent and no more than twenty percent any more than twenty percent. Twenty five thirty It becomes a dramatic jump. This is why it's more Advisable to increase their prices every year rather than waiting every two or three years because then the jumps are going to be quite high but even fifteen or twenty percent increase may not seem too high but will make a big difference for you for all your clients so say for example. You're alary fifty dollars. A twenty percent increase is only going up to sixty dollars but across all your hours across all your customers. It makes a significant difference now. One of the things i recommend is when you're delivering the change of rate to are turning customer. You can offer them to lock in a longer term package for example to have you on retainer so say for example you say hey. My hourly rate is now a hundred dollars. is usually increased my rates every twelve to eighteen months. But if you'd like you can lock in this rate for the next two years if you want to. But you'll need to commit to a certain amount of hours on retainer month so you might say i need to have ten hours on retainer every month. That means a thousand dollars every month. That means a twenty four thousand dollars for thirty two years and this can just be a retainer Four any kind of work that they need to do Maintenance work update work and then anything outside the retaining hours you can charge them early at the current rate and people that like to work with you would like to lock in a great rate that they can have and have predictable pricing for the next couple years. This could be done in a very low pressure just by the way. Here's something that i offer and you'll be surprised. How many of your customers. We'll take you up on it. Because people like to save money. People liked to lock in a discount more on today's cuny wednesday but before that. Let me love to sponsor support for today. Show comes from our very own whether ninja looking for a webinar platform to host. 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Mba show if you love what here shared this show with your friends on social media share linked to it or even just take a screenshot and tell people about one hundred ambi- show in wine love so much before we go. I wanna leave you with this. Many people often think price is a bigger factor than it actually is. You'll be surprised. Many people are willing to pay more money. If they're going to get what they want if they're going to get the result of looking for an increase maybe an increment of price. That is really not gonna make a huge difference between going with you. Go with your competitor. They really wanna just no. Will you give me what i'm expecting. So sell them on the value. Seldom on what you can deliver. Show them what you've done in the past more value convey no matter what your prices the more that price becomes a bargain. Thanks so much for listening. Check you into mars episode. I'll see you then take care

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Chronic Conflict: It Gets Worse Before It Gets Better

Talk Like a Leader

11:43 min | 6 months ago

Chronic Conflict: It Gets Worse Before It Gets Better

"Welcome to the talk, a leader podcast where we explore the mindset skill set and habits of leadership communication using these tips, techniques, and tactics. You'll be able to talk like a leader to build better relationships and get more done. Your host is Guy Harris who has more than twenty years of combined professional and military experience in consulting coaching and training in areas like team in interaction dynamics, communication strategies, and tactics as well as emotional intelligence. Take it away. Guy Are this guy. You're welcome to talk leader podcast and this week's episode we're going to talk about the idea of chronic conflict and I'll share perspective with you on how it actually gets worse before it gets better frankly I don't have enough time to cover every new once and subtlety raised by today's topic I do hope to give you something to think about and to thoughtfully consider how to apply to your situation. A. First, let's consider the idea of chronic verses acute. Acute. Problems are those problems that appear suddenly and often with little warning. Chronic. Problems are things that persist for a long time or they're constantly recurring. They might be low level that you're not even completely aware of an sometimes chronic conditions when they're unchecked can reveal themselves and acute problem. So acute problems might actually be chronic problems that were left on addressed. Before we get into the idea of chronic conflict and how it often gets worse before it gets better let type A story about a situation. I had recently talk about my garage I've lived in my house for now just slightly over two and a half years, and when we first moved in, we had a whole bunch of things, all kinds of boxes and tools and miscellaneous stuff that got piled into our garage we moved in and we moved in right before Christmas and it was a very hectic time. There was a lot of family stuff going on we're trying. To coordinate a bunch of things and it sort of made sense to dispel it in the garage move on while it was a little over two and a half years ago we also have two cats that basically call our garage home. So we have two cats plus all this stuff and of course, and a half years a lot of that stuff got covered with cat hair which we cleaned up from time to time. But still got in the nooks and crannies the places where we weren't moving piles around and rearranging boxes to clean up cat hair and dust and spider's. Just, kind of building up in the garage and the cats also kinda liked the paper on the sheet rock and. were, they could get to the walls they scratch some of the walls not badly, but still there was damage to the walls. And over the course of two and a half years we wound up with this mess of cat hair scratched walls, dust spiders, spider webs, and piled up stuff. It has been a constant source of frustration aggravation. We've had situations where couldn't find things because there was no place for them. They're just be a box somewhere that had never been properly and completely. unpacked. So it was just sitting in the garage and my wife and I would have this conversation about where is such and such tool and she would say or I would say, well, I think I saw it somewhere over in this corner and it would come out of whatever box or corner it was in to be located to a new corner or box. At some point because there was no place for it the garage even though mostly out of sight was always just a little on our minds like I said, we have cats live there and we had to visit the garage periodically to get things and to take care of the cats and to feed and water them clean their litter box to find the. Tool or thing we were looking for that was stored in the garage. So we had to go out to the garage frequently it's just not a living space. It's out of sight out of mind sort of space we visit there occasionally not all the time. So we could go into our cleaner part of the Halston for awhile sort of forget about the garage. Well, the truth is the frustration built because it was never fully resolved this frustration built and built and built. Until we finally broke and said, we have got to do something about this. So we went and shot for storage solutions. We drew up plans and came up with this plan for how to fix the garage problem the process. Then of installing the storage solutions we identified was complicated by having to work around the. Mess, the cats, the dust, the spiders, the cat hair, and the scratch walls plus in the process, we had to repair the damage done by not fixing the garage properly in the beginning like I said the scratched walls and other things that were out there not major damage. They're just things that made it take a little longer and cost a little more money to fix than it would have taken if we'd done it originally. So here's the impact, the actual cost and work of installing the storage solutions was about the same as if we've done it over two years ago, meaning the actual storage solution installed probably cost about the same took about the same amount of to install the total cost and both time and money of fixing the whole problem was more because of the damage repair and work around. We had to do the more complicated environment of a garage that already had stuff that we had to work around the cats and we had to move piles from one place to another. We had to rearrange things and move stuff out of the way. Then on top of all the stuff that was in the garage, we had the packing material and boxes and other things came with our storage solution. We had to clear space on the floor to assemble the stored solution. So the whole process got significantly more complicated because it wasn't dealt with originally. Okay. So how does her garage fit? With the idea of chronic conflict. Well, let's think about what a chronic conflict is gonNA tell. You have chronic versus acute chronic is persisting for a long time acute all of a sudden and frankly you probably don't overlook acute conflicts. They appear they're writing your face. There's the blow up in the meeting or the the confrontation someone has over a project plan or whatever the situation it's very clear and direct. It's probably the chronic conflicts cause greater challenges to a leader. Because they are sort of floating under the surface and they're those little things that you kind of know it needs to be dealt with like our garage we knew it needed to be dealt with. It's just that there was always something else more important. And the pressure of the unresolved conflict built and built and built until we basically snapped and it became acute. So what are some leadership issues that might be chronic conflict? So they could. UNADDRESSED employee performance issues. They could be interactions between people in the workplace that you see are spiraling a bad direction they could be missed deadlines. Be Project completion challenges. Or quality challenges. I don't know specifically what your issue is but. The. Truth is we all have them all of us have chronic conflicts in our lives that sort of float under the surface day. SAP OUR FOCUS and energy they get in the way they slowest down and doing things like for example, when I would have to go to the garage to find a tool maybe maybe there was a particular hammer was looking for and I couldn't find it because it had no place the chronic conflict got in the way of me doing what needed to be done. Well chronic conflicts can do the same thing in the workplace they can cause us to be sensitive interactions with people to not speak openly and forthrightly to. Behave in ways that damage trust open communication. Like. I said I don't know your specific situation. I'm pretty sure if you think about it, you can think of situations that are chronic conflicts and the challenges if they continue to be chronic conflicts rather than getting addressed. When they become acute, they may be so big. They're almost impossible turn-around. What we do about chronic conflicts is that they're going to get worse before they get better. And like our garage as soon as you choose to address it, it's going to make it acute. Soon, as we decided to start tackling the garage, we head to move things we had to clean out the COBWEBS. We had to confront the dust and cat here and kitty litter that was behind boxes and all the stuff the damaged walls we had to address it. We made those things acute. We raise them from back of mind low focus issues to front of mine intensely focused issues, and like our garage the longer it goes unresolved the more mess to clean up and rearrange. All the boxing impacting materials and things we had to clean out of garage. The longer goes on the more. It's GONNA cost you to fix it because the cost of fixing the underlying issue probably won't get worse. It'll be about the same whatever the issue is it's going to cost what it costs to fix it. What we'll get worse is the added cost of fixing the damage caused by ignoring it by fixing all the stuff that piles up in the meantime. Here's the thing I want to leave with today I. Don't know where you have chronic conflict in your life I'm pretty confident that you stop and think about it. You're gonNA find it and what I'm going to suggest as you think about one chronic conflict that is going on in your leadership role. And unlike say in the next twenty, four hours if you can start addressing if it's more complex and require some thinking and planning to at least make a plan for how you're going to address it. And then take action engage with that person have a conversation or people as the case may be might be more than one person. And like our garage, you need to be prepared for it to get worse before it gets better. Getting worse does not mean that it's getting worse in the sense of not being fixable. It's just as you raise all these buried emotions to the surface, it's probably going to get worse before it gets better. The key is to maintain hope that if will persevere in the process and we resolve this issue, it will get better even though it gets worse than the short-term. Be Prepared to confront the damage you did know about you're going to uncover things you have no idea about as you address conic conflicts with people or with your team. Be Prepared for that and be okay with it. As you address it make sure you allow enough time for both you and the other person or people involved to get their concerns and hurts from the past on the table. Make enough space for talking about the past. You can least understand how people feel about things don't let it go too long though what you WanNa do is as quickly as you can without communicating that you didn't hear people. Shift to the future and talk about what you can both do to make the situation better in the future. So if you can't address chronic conflicts be prepared for them to get worse before they get better. Be Prepared to fix whatever emotional damage you uncovering the process be prepared to talk about how you can go forward together. And what you can do together to work better together in the future rather than end the relationship. You can talk like leader. This has been the talk leader podcast. You can listen to this show every week wherever you get your podcast. You. Haven't Fisher sure to subscribes. You never miss an episode. I'm Guy Harrison. Thanks for listening.

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Jarael Holston: Sharing His Recipe for Business Success As A South Florida Restauranteur

Business Scale Insights

27:11 min | 1 year ago

Jarael Holston: Sharing His Recipe for Business Success As A South Florida Restauranteur

"Welcome to business scale. Insights with Kimberly. Marie bonner. Listen for commentary interviews and information on how to grow your business for all the details. Contact business Gail insights network dot com. So empire builders are you ready? Here's Kimberly Marie Bonner. Hello. And welcome empire-builders to another episode of business scale insights, I'm your host Kimberly, Marie Bonner. And I'm so excited to continue our series on the restaurant business. We are really focused on these next few episodes. We're focused on how to take your restaurant business from startup to scale up. And so in that regard, I've brought some of variety of restaurant tours onto interview last week. We had the CEO of urban bricks franchise system who actually owns and operates a global franchise system with over a hundred units and today, I'm actually bringing it closer to home. And I'm interviewing this EEO of fat boys barbecue in Broward County. Joyal halston, and I am so honored to have him on the program today. So. So mister halston. Thank you so much for coming onto the program. Thank you for having me Kim. I'm so honored, well, you and your family have an incredible story, and I have to say have to preface all of this, that I heard about shore your barbecue restaurant from friends and family. So that's wonderful. That means you have a buzz on the street. That means people know about you, and they know about your brand, and then when I did a little bit of research about you. I saw an article that you are so so well known in the area that you have people fly in from the Bahamas to come to your restaurant, which is pretty impressive. I might say, so as really really congratulations for having that kind of following. So you are locally owned your family owned. You are a veteran you have an increase. Your also a pastor, you and your wife own the business. It's just a great inspirational story. And I want you to share that story with the audience today a little bit. Well, thank you for having me Kim, I wont all and just appreciate everything that you do for the business community thing, and helping entrepreneurs with inside resources and it's people like you that really help people like me along the way to really start, you know, in one place, and then, you know, escalate to where you desire to be I just wanna appreciate you on all that you do in sewing, back into budding entrepreneurs and restaurants here. So I appreciate this thing. Yes, ma'am. So we what was the long story, but just to give you a snapshot at what how we've gotten to this point, I am a military veteran, and I worked in aviation, once I got out of the military and my wife started, we got married, baggage thousand and nine my wife started wasn't for the post office, and she had been with the post office about nine years or so. And maybe eight nine years and she had grown weary with the post office wanted to, you know, venture out his mother things. And one day she was attacked by dog. And it was her. Yeah. Hurt pretty bad. And at that time, I was not financially able to do anything at that time. So I really start to, you know, look at what business ideas I have that could, you know, supplement my wife's income because she couldn't leave right away and I love to barbecue and I came to be just start barbecue. When you know and I love to barbecue so out of my that yard, I still have the same smoker that I started this business in my backyard, I look at it every day. What me and I started barbecue on that little smokeout, my backyard and letting friends and family, taste it and everybody loved it. And, you know, from there we did a church function and fat, boy, started right out of that. Search function. Everybody said we gotta have this barbecue. So my plan was just make enough money that I could, you know, make in two weeks with my, you know, why would you know make in the month that was my plan and here we all day. We started off in front of church, and we eventually got a little low small food truck, and we graduated to a big food truck, and starting all the food circuits, and we have lines of fifty to seventy five people waiting at a time, and we were served for five, six hundred people at food truck events. Some of the other. Trucks, when have many people, we have a line of fifty sixty five people, so we traveled the food truck circuit truck was parked down at the courthouse and one day, I drove by restaurant I was not interested in opening a restaurant I hadn't experienced and passed the restaurant and something said, you know, go forward and we gave it a shot in Deerfield and from day one the line was out the door, and it has been that way every since our children helped us out. It was think thirteen fourteen at the time, and they have been in the business, helping us out running locations running out of when they were teenagers when my, my wife and I could make any way hoping my mother-in-law she is just, you know, been there since day one. So it's a family of fan, my sister, my brother. You know, step, dad. I mean it is just been. A family of fair. Everybody digging in, in helping us spiel this business. I'm might be the face of it, but I am not the whole business in and of this by myself rather because it's a family of fair and my wife and my children have really been the bedrock of our business and keeping grow going and growing, you know, it's it's truly labor of love, you can tell that in your voice, and your story. And it's I hope I hope the people that are listening to us today, and even when it's rebroadcast on the podcast, what you're sharing with them, as very common, meaning you and your wife, experienced a pain point. Right. It was something that was jarring, and it got you out of both of your comfort zones, particularly you and it or not, that's a very common theme and entrepreneurship. And so whoever's listening to my voice in listening to you to your voice. If they're going through a similar pain point don't waste your pain. I've had the similar experience. I had a near death experience that literally birthed my company and it's taken me all over the nation's nation, this nation two different countries. So don't waste your pain. You may be going through a very kind of dark night of this whole of valley experience. But you're if you mind your pain, very well. Something can come out on the other end that will just transform not only your life, but it can transform your family's life, it can transform your communities live. I don't know why I'm going in this direction, but I'm gonna flow with okay because because I, I, I mean, I was flat on my back in ICU, and people were looking at me, and my, my father and tears rolling down his eyes and he thought he was going to lose his daughter at thirty nine and then I'm, I'm back. So so don't waste your pain saying your way. So anyway, if you haven't gone to fat boys barbecue there is one that is in Coral Springs in its very visited. It's a wonderful establishment. The food is even better. I bought a bunch of food over the Memorial Day holiday in my, yes. And my will I when we first met when we first met, I said, you know, my standard for barbecues very high because my daddy's from North Carolina and anybody. Style or North Carolina is just a big deal. I was like I it's. Yes, it is. It is like you worship at the altar the barbecue. So I bought the barbecue, and I brought home to my mom and my mom was, like, whoa. What is this? I said, if I tell you where it is going to be parked up in there. You go every day. Absolutely. Right. So it's hard for me to articulate the difference between your barbecue and everybody else's barbecue. And you know how people are barbecue fanatics but share with audience? What makes you a restaurant different? What makes you a recipe different? What makes your food the whole experience? What, what makes fat boys barbecue unique? Are well I one one of the things about barbecue is barbecue is regional guy. Carolina barbecue. Texas barbecue. You've got, you know, a sore Kansas City style barbecue. You've got a missing out. Barbecue you've got to Kentucky style barbecue, so barbecue is regional somebody in Memphis might not like the Carolina style. You know, so it's, it's open. Into interpretation. You know, based on a person's upbringing and their region and what they're accustomed to for us. We apply to marry all of these different regions in some form on other in what we do whether or not I port is more Carolina with brisket is more is Texas out brisket, you know, our baby bags some more of a Memphis, south baby bags. I think Lewis ribs or more of a Kansas City style. So we like marry all of these take all of these, you know, myriad of regions of barbecue, and we bring them together. Then we give southern sides with it, you know, and excuse me, he it breathes for great experience because it's like different things coming together from like different flavors. It's all good. But it's like, you know, everything is you meet. And we also. So came out of the food truck world. So we have awesome barbecue food truck menu. We've got sandwiches like the big daddy whereas, you know, Carolina port Texas brisket and smoke. Mac and cheese on top all one big huge sandwich. So that's you know our food menu. Definitely sets us apart, and we do seven five nine and we talk about collard greens. Cut and clean grease word word you have my mom was crying with those Colleen. Right. Right. So, so that's, that's what makes us unique and it's all homemade and it's made with love barbecues labor of his, and we put love into what we do in love into our customer service experience. And so we believe that that's what sets us apart. Okay. Well, I'm going to have to jump in here real quick. Because we have to go to a break. And we'll be right back. And let's talk about kind of two or three pieces of advice that you would be able to pass onto budding restaurant tours that you wish you had, when you start it. Okay. Okay. All right. If you already have a proven business model, but have concerns about the best way to grow and scale, then you should contact the experts at new day consulting systems. New day uses innovative techniques to ten times the impact of your business. 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Get insights, and I am interviewing Joyal Holsten the CEO of fat boys barbecue when in Broward County, Florida, and Mr. Wilson are you still there, some you're wonderful and before the break, I just teased up the fact that I really wanted you to share really your wisdom, right? There are a lot of people who are listening out there. They have hopes and dreams of becoming a successful restaurant tour and doing something similar to what you and your family have done. And I'm just wondering if you could share maybe two or three pieces of advice that you wish someone had given to you. When you first started. And there, there, there are so, so many that I I've so many lessons and experiences that I've had I've taught me so much, but I can say show, you guys, some of the, the key ones that I've come to realize, and comes really allowed to form. My journey is the first one is that they all is, is a necessity for success. And I'll say it again. Failure is in the sesame or success. I used to think that being successful and what I was doing was all about things excess ful but it really let me open myself up to knowing that they all is really what teaches me how to have success and a half the things excess, because when I failed, it wasn't about me learning, what to do that made me successful a lot of times, it was learning in that failure whatnot to do. So I use my failures as the key ingredient to sustain my success and I was always afraid of, of ill your as on, once once I got out, and I got him business, but it was my many failures that have gotten into a level of sustained success. So we need you need. Healthy dose of failure, and you need a healthy dose of adversity might not always be in the form of failure. But adversity, you need, you know, challenges that really produced a fabric of you as entrepreneur, a lot of times, we run from those things are necessary in order to produce a good, wholeness entrepreneur, and one of the other things that I have learned that I wish someone had told me is that being successful, especially in the restaurant industry is not always about your passion, passion. You know you can have a great passion. But you never subsitute your passion for proper infrastructure because you're, you're passionate about something doesn't mean that you might just open up a restaurant I love Jamaican for I'm passionate about. And I turn that into my business model. You know, you have to really, you know, measure. Is your your passion which business plan? And sometimes you can't, you know, move in as much of your passion as you have to do with the market is dictating some people will go to their passion, and just stay there. I'm not moving 'cause that's that's, that's what I do. And, you know, and you you drown out there, because sometimes we have to deviate from your passion to maintain perspective in the market. So I was someone had told me that. You know what helped me out? And, you know, the other thing is, is the last thing that I was share is it doesn't matter how great your business plan is it doesn't matter how great your recipe is doesn't matter. How great your, your marketing skills are it doesn't matter the great package that it culminates in comes together for you. And, you know, the great one that you are, you're great business plan, or whatever it is at the end of the day, one of the most challenging things for successful entrepreneur is staffing, and it is delegating. People, you know, to carry out your vision, and your brand, and your DNA and a lot of times, you know, you'll find that not everybody is, as excellent about, you know, sharing your brand. The same passion and insane level of excellence that you would. And so it becomes challenging staffing becomes a challenge. So. So that's something that you gotta prepare yourself for as you begin to grow as entrepreneur, hiring, the right people, motivating those that you do higher, and being able to not keep that people too long, that'll be seeing choice vision. I love this. So I'm gonna park here for a minute, because you could literally write a book based upon those three gyms. So I want our listening audience to get a piece of paper write this down. I'm going to reiterate what he just said, and then I'm going to add some of my two cents because I've been in the franchising space for a decade. And what he's saying is pretty much gospel. Failures needed for success. This is the complete opposite of everything that you've been taught K K through twelve this is the exact opposite of everything. You've been taught in college. It's the exact opposite of everything you've been taught as a graduate student. And if you've got a PHD, everyone is going to tell you, you, she you cannot fail you cannot fail. You should be afraid of failure because you're going to be penalized with failure as an entrepreneur, if you're going where no one is bully gone before, right? You don't have a real blueprint. So you're going to. And so the key is when you do fail that you make the course correction very quickly and you don't make the same steak again. So that's, that's that's key. So really I want to really go there because I get people who talked me all the time, and they want to be great entrepreneurs, but there's so much fear of failure, and we've all been there because we've been pro rammed completely feel fear fear failure. The second one is about the market. And you talked about being successful is not really about pursuing your passion per se. And I love that because a lot of people think that they can be a successful entrepreneur restaurant tour, because they make great been yet is or they make great shrimp and grits, or they make great sweet potato pile. What you feel into playing a, you know. You know, whatever meatballs whatever it is. But the problem is if you live in a place that no one even knows what been yeas are an as if rebel from Louisiana. They're like, what people do. And I'm like, believe it or not a ton of people don't know what have been yea. So if you open, you know, twenty four seven hot and Milton your mouth been yays. No. Nobody y'all looking at me, my, my crew in front of me people know what you're stating what they will know what you're talking about in south Lord. They'll try they'll be like what don't it is. But what world is this? So your passion might be been used. But if you're market, they don't no one knows what have been your years, you won't have a problem. So you're gonna have to adjust your passion for what the Mark there you what the market can support. And then lastly, you know, staffing is really, really everything. And, and, and, and I'm going to I'm going to ask you to really impact that because right now there's somebody that wants to pull over to the side of the road, or somebody listening to this podcast, and they're like, okay, he said staff. That's my pain. N- point I have a revolving door. I can't keep qualified staff people get what's going on. What's going on? So I know staffing, everyone knows staffing is a key. But can you pull that out a little bit more? Can you tease it out a little bit more? How can we retain your staff? How do you do job of recruiting staff, that whole issue of firing? What are some of the gyms that you've learned over time while I will be transparent, and I will be honest. Which is me, you know, I am ill figuring this thing out. I I'm still I'm still figuring it out. But I can say one of the things that I have come to realize is that the most detrimental thing for me. In my time is entrepreneur as released the building my plan and making sure I have sustained growth and development has not been about always hiring the right person in hiring the wrong person. The problem for me in the most detrimental thing for me when I know I have the wrong person but I keep them too long. And it's it's so detrimental. It's so cold, that's for mental, you know, so I think that it is important that when you recognize certain traits and certain characteristics that don't look like your DNA when you start seeing everybody comes in the door with a great resume. And everybody comes in the door that, you know, they're, they're ready for the position that gun whole first couple of weeks of first month. Whatever after that, do they still have the you'll to really be molded with the DNA of the brand. And I stopped hiring people that don't have our DNA. You know, I actually certain questions I see other compatible with the DNA in the fabric of our organization. They can be intellectual. They're gonna be bright now, the cognitive energy, and intellectual, ingenuity. But do they have certain traits and certain characteristics, that say that they're they have to pinch? You'll to possess the DNA about working. Innovation and whatever you're, you're in a first of all in order for you to hire the right people. You have to have a good mission statement, when live by it, you gotta have a vision statement, you gotta know who you are as an organization because you're just bringing people in just for the sake of filling positions and Neil, you're needing bodies, you're not gonna hire with the intentions of bringing somebody that's compatible with the vision of the organization. No, I love everything that you just sit there. And I wanna almost kind of land the plane here because this is probably the most important thing that you've shared culture over everything that's over everything culture over everything. So if you are hoping to build a great business that stands the test of time. Everything is centered on your identity. He said it DNA and closure. So unfortunately, it happens every time you know the. Thirty minutes goes like that. And art. Unfortunately, the time is up, but I want you to plug your locations in your most recently opened location. Well, our barbecue -cations are in. We have one in Deerfield tool for sow powerline road in Deerfield beach. We have one in call springs, sixty one ninety two westbound paroled. We also have a barbecue. Location, just recently opened in Lauderdale that ones to five north federal highway. Right. At sunrise boulevard, and federal hiring. We also have a Cajun crab and location in pumping. Oh, that's at twenty seventeen with Atlantic boulevard is called crazy. 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Hal Elrod: ...the importance of celebrating life every day

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Hal Elrod: ...the importance of celebrating life every day

"Welcome to nobody told me. I'm Jan black. And I'm Laura Owens once the secret to success. What's the formula for achieving your biggest goals in life? Our guest on this. Episode. Hal Elrod says the answer to those questions is simple. How is the author of the international bestseller the miracle morning and his latest book is called the miracle equation. The two decisions that move your biggest goals from possible to probable to inevitable. How thank you so much for joining us today. It is not always an honor to be here. But as a former radio DJ now podcast or Jan and Laura you have the best voices. I've ever heard. Thank you. I don't know if you were born with that. Or you think you practiced, obviously, he's done a lot of episodes. But anyway, so it's an honor to here, and I was super impressed lifting. You guys introduce the opposite. Thank you so much. Wow. Well, how you've defied death twice and are a true miracle, man. Can you talk to us a little bit about what happened young? Yeah. Yes. Usually, the two experiences of both of them were things that you think man that hope who had never happened just happens to you know, other people and I feel for them on the news. And then I the channel and go back to my life and not one but yet few different experiences. The I was I was twenty years old had given a speech at a at a company conference. I was one of the top sales people for my company, and I was always giving speeches at pretty much every whether it was a, you know, regional or national leading and I gave a speech at this event and driving home that night. My car was head on by drunk driver at eighty miles an hour. Oh, my off of the drunk driver and the car the worst was actually yet to come the car behind me spun around right in front of them, and they crashed directly into my driver's side door at seventy miles an hour. Oh, man. What you might. Imagine would happen in that situation is what happened in the entire their car. Crushed my door into my body and crushed my body, and I broke eleven bones. Instantaneously my leg broke the femur. Broken house, my pelvis, broken three places my arm behind my bicep broken house. I shattered my elbow severed the radio nerves in my forearm. I thought it was crushed so bad. It's rebuilt with three titanium plates might year was almost completely severed and in the ceiling buckled slice of big v in the top of my head and unable to withstand the pain and very grateful. I was immediately in a coma. And it took the rescue crew almost an hour to use the jaws of life and to pull me out of the car, and it was sucked in the carved is leading the entire time. By the time. They finally pulled me out of the car, I bled to death, and my heart stopped beating stop breathing. And I was clinically dead on the side of the freeway. And they rushed me onto a medevac helicopter while performing CPR and six minutes from the time that I thought line they they didn't give up after five they kept working on the and they brought me back to life. And I was rushed to the hospital spent six days in a coma. Flatlined twice more and came out of the coma. Six days later to face the news from doctors that I would never walk again and permanent brain damage as well. Like my short term memory. I literally Lauren Janu could we could have been friends for life. You could have come to visit me in the hospital for few hours sat by my bed in my my hospital bed. If you went to lunch and came back, I would have forgotten that we spent the morning together. Like, my memory was really bad. My wife will tell you. It's not that much better now, but. The high. So I was faced with this news that I would never walk again. And I essentially I, and we can get into all the, you know, the the weeds on this and the lessons from this. But as far as the story goes, I decided that I was I would accept the worst case scenario. So it had no power over my emotions like I decided, I'm at peace. If I never walk again, I will be the happiest I made a decision. I'll be the happiest person that you could possibly be and the most grateful person, you could possibly be in a wheelchair the rest of my life. But it won't. I the decision was my circumstances will not determine my quality of life. They will not determine my emotional state, and the doctor I was in denial because I was so happy about everything was just positive unhappy over diamond they called their parents. And they said we're concerned with how things in denial maybes delusional. We're not sure find out how he's really feeling and my dad approach me. And I said dad, I can't change that. I was in a car accident. They can't change the my body's broken. Unchain? I may never walk again. So accepted that and peace with it. I said, however, that's only one possibility believe there's the second possibility. And no one really knows if it's if it's going to happen. But the second possibility is I will walk again, I might walk again. And I literally I don't know if it's possible, but neither do the doctors. No one really knows. And I said, so I'm choosing to accept the worst case scenario and set it aside and not not worry about it not stress about it. It's there, and I've accepted it, and it's not even that bad because we'll be happy. No matter what. But all my energy go into what I want and that's walking again, I'm visualizing walking. And every day imagining it I'm praying about it. I'm thinking about it. I'm I'm maintaining unwavering faith that it's possible. And I'm going to therapy. I'll go to therapy. I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna do everything. I can and the the doctors they believed that you know, that that they thought man house really delusional really gone. The defended on, but but it was very sincere. And the the proof is in the pudding if you will a week after this conversation with my dad in three weeks from the night. I was found dead in broke, all these bones. The doctors came in with routine x rays, and they said to me, and my parents, they said, hey, we've got some really great news. We don't know how to explain this. But how your body is healing so fast that you're actually ready to take your first step today? And there. Wow. Yeah. And and even me being domestic I'm like, you know, maybe like six to twelve months, you know, healing and positive. You know, you know, but but I never in a million years. Did I think that three weeks after the crash I would take my step, and I took my first day and four weeks later left the hospital, and and we want to dive into that we can, but I'll just real quick share with you the second near death experience that was a real death experience actually died but the second two years ago, and I was twenty when that happened. I'm now thirty nine I was thirty seven two years ago when I was on the verge of death. And we didn't know what was wrong doctors initially couldn't figure it out. But my lung kept collapsing, and I kept I couldn't breathe they have to drain. My Lum fluid for my lung and in in in a it was either an eleven and eleven day period. They drained sixteen pounds of fluid from my lung, basically every day and a half two days. I'd have to go to the ER after stick a giant needle in my back and drain my lung, and then it would just about up another in the next day. And I'd have to go back in over and over and over and they kept running tests figure this out, and it ended up being that I had a very I was diagnosed with a very rare aggressive form of cancer called acute lymphoblastic leukemia. And the scariest part is this has a that particular cancer in adult the tend to thirty percent survival rate, and I always say that if you're a, you know, if you're pessimist, right? If you're a glasses out empty person that is the doctor saying you have a seventy percent to ninety percent chance that you are going to die that you're gonna leave your your too young kids with the time, we're seven and four my my daughter, Sophie, my son, halston, you know, that you're seventy nine hundred chance that you're gonna leave them without a father and leave. Your wife's first husband and on the day. I was diagnosed. This really leads into you know, what we're gonna talk about today. But the day was diagnosed I called my wife that Hartford, but she was out of town with the kids. I was by myself, and I called her with the hardest phone call I've had to make in my life. And you know, she started to bowling, and I and they Nissar ball even though I already I was a peace with it like same same with the accident. I, you know, the piece, but but it's like, I I couldn't change it. So I might as make the best of it. And I knew for her it was much harder to hear of course. And I said sweetheart once both stop crying. I said, I I know I don't I don't she had stopped. But I said, I know this is I know this is the worst thing probably you can imagine. I I know it's hard. But I said there's there's two things we are number one. I've been through something like this before different. But but similar, and I made the decision that I would be the happiest and the most great flight ever been while I endured my recovery for my car accident. And I said, I promise you, I will be okay, I will be the happiest most grateful that I've ever been. While I go through what I'm imagining will probably the most difficult time in our lives. I said in the second thing, and I said, I don't know if you remember this. I'm sure I've mentioned it to before. But I've been living for seventeen years by this thing that I called the miracle equation that I created when I was twenty one to break a sales record in my company and do what felt like a miracle, which is why called it the miracle question. And I said I put it to dozens of people might coaching clients over the years. And I said it it works with you know, a very high success rate. I said, so even though the doctors are saying, I have attended thirty percents the typical chance of surviving. This. I believe I believe this formula is question these decisions will ensure that I have a one hundred percent chance of being in that ten to thirty percent that make it, and I don't expect you to believe me right now. I know I know you're frayed, but I have. Unwavering faith that I will be this cancer, and I'll be alive with you. And the kids for as long as you know, you and I wanna be alive. And and I'm very grateful to say that I applied the miracle question, which I've done to everything from selling millions of books to surviving. My car accident all these things and I played at the cancer journey and the doctors were similar to the previous authors. My car accident. They were dumbfounded at how. Well, I handled my treatments which is one of the most horrific intensive chemotherapy treatments in existence. You know, why people in every there'd be regimen of different? There's I don't even know how many, but for example, I have an aunt that is going to cancer, and she would go in for chemo. You know for like an hour a week, and I had a over a hundred hours of chemo consecutively for four or five day, periods alternating four days, and then five days every three weeks, I had one hundred hours of chemo nonstop for every three weeks and the goal is to kill the cancer. It 'cause it's so fast acting it. So aggressive kill the cancer before killing the patient, and I got very close to dying on multiple occasions. But I'm grateful to say that I am now in remission cancer free for the last year and furthering my my mission to elevate the consciousness of humanity. And that brings us to where we are today. We're thrilled to have you as part of our nobody told me family, and we want to tell you about one of our sponsors, smart and sexy smart insects is the place to go when you've major plans for spring break. 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Spartan sexy is offering nobody told me listeners thirty percent off their first order, just go to smarten sexy dot com to find your new favorite swimsuit and get thirty percent off your first purchase with promo code. Nobody told me that smart and sexy dot com, promo code. Nobody told me for thirty percent off today. So we're talking about your your process the miracle equations, so we wanna know, obviously, all about that. But first of all, how do you define a miracle? We it's an important question. Because I think it's such a loaded word, and there's so many different meanings than its petitions of it. Right. And I think I think that it has Europe holes in for some people. Maybe a lot of people. They're kind of about her out there. You know, there's an IRO like a miracle on like I'm about you know, I I'm not gonna pray and wait for miracle. Like because there I think miracle thought of is mostly of these passive random acts that you kind of the pray and wait strategy like hoping for miracle and praying for miracle hope things work out or they're very random and unpredictable and not very reliable. And so the way that I defined a miracle for me. I'm about results. I I want. I don't wanna just you know, I wanna see results in our life. I don't wanna put a vision board on wall and hope that those miracles on that board come to pass. Right. So here's my definition of a miracle, and it miracle is any meaningful outcome that is beyond. What you believe is probable for you. Say that again any meaningful outcome, and it can be in any area of life. Right. Any meaningful outcome that is beyond the realm of what you believe is probable for you notice that I did not say possible because possible if you if you are an optimistic you engage in personal development, if your party authors club there, the office credo is anything is possible. But not enough to get out of bed in the morning. You know, the the motivation and the drive to make our biggest dreams come true because anything's possible. Everything's possible. Human beings human nature's to pursue certainty. We don't we don't go after goals that are possible. We only go up goals that are probable right win. The you're listening was the last time that you looked at a huge meaningful. You know goal that would change your life that you go. You know, what the odds of this happening or slim to none? It's very unlikely. So I'm gonna commit everything I have to make it happen. I'm gonna I'm gonna get everything. Right. Even though I don't think it's going to happen. But we don't that. That that defies our human nature. But if you look at the world's most prolific achievers and innovators creators, and the most acceptable individuals on the planet in any walk of life. That's how they operate. They look at the possible. And then through these two decisions that were about to talk about they move these these these things that are just possible, which is really nothing. There's nothing is possible means nothing. They moved him to problem and in through this decisions by maintaining these until the outcome becomes inevitable. And so that is what is required for us to create the most extraordinary life as we define extraordinary that we really want. And that we really are still how are people only two decisions away from happiness. So here's one happiness is right. That's a that's a that's a doubt is an outcome. So we could say that outcome. But, but I I would I wouldn't say that these are specifically for to be happy. These are for the subtitle of the book, but you sit right? I think that is the best you know, that that's the definition right? Is the two decisions that move your big schools from possible to problem edible? So if your goal is to be happy, then yes, these are the two decisions. So let's let's explain what these are. So I first and foremost, I'll give a quick disclaimer. Which is the two decisions are deceptively simple in their explanation, but extremely rare in their execution gaining if I just tell if I were to tell you what these are. And then we were to go awesome in hang up. That doesn't help me at all. Like, I understand these two concepts. They're not rocket science. They're not paying right? Like, that's the point. That's actually whenever biggest mistakes is we are trained the media has trained us to get. And this is, you know, this isn't like a rant, but we've been conditioned to want. What is new rate like we literally you want the new iphone? We want the new model of the car. We want the new strategy the new trick the new book, the new this new that but to change our lives. We don't need necessarily more information, we need methods for implementation and the and there's a big difference. Right. I think that's why most books don't change people's lives because most books are a lot of information. And you read it and while you're reading it you go there's all these moments. Oh my gosh. That's brilliant. I never thought about before. That's wow. That could change my life. But the author doesn't doesn't break down in simplify? And hold your hand through methods for implementing the knowledge that they're they're giving the stretch, they're giving you, and I've I didn't know this. I mean, I kinda knew it when I was writing the miracle morning might my last book. Right. The enough. So one point seven million copies almo- mostly word of mouth like when I was in the hospital fighting cancer. I didn't do a single interview that year not one the year before I did over fifty and we sold the same exact amount within a thousand copies of the book a hundred and thirty thousand copies, the your had cancer hundred thirty one thousand the year before the reason, I'm saying that is for context that that was that was all from people implementing the miracle morning in their life, and then telling their friends about it, right like because it was changing their life, and the reason I've reverse engineered and kind of analyze why did that book go so viral, and it's because I gave people methods for implementation. Like that was what the book was about was not just. These these big picture concepts. It was here's how you beat your Lawrence book step one do this. Tune to this. Then do like literally you could give the book to your to third grader right to your to your child and say, hey, you can hundred dollars of next week. You can do the miracle morning for a month. Right. Starting next week. And they can do it easy. Right. It's so simple. And so that's what this book the bureauc- rate is these two decisions. And I'm sorry. I'm not trying to like hold you up. I'm gonna give them to your second. I I really it's important understand. Because otherwise you could hear these two out and go like, that's too simple too easy. Like come on. Right. I need something more complicated that I've never heard before. Right. Right. So here you go. The first decision is unwavering say and specifically to develop unwavering faith, the second decision is to maintain extrordinary effort, and the will break these down for buddy. But but I would I would challenge. Anyone right to go? Find someone like, you know, and I've I've racked my brain trying to find like in there a real person. That's Chievo amazing success in their wife over they defined it right fulfillment. Like real success? Real success with meaningful film it and purpose. Not just a bunch of money and money. No money. This is supplies the people that have built fortunes as well. But by me one that didn't have to establish the fate that they could do something. They've never done before. That's the first part of wavering faith, but every human being is born with nothing right there. Born in the baby with no knowledge. No skills. No money them. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Right. Not none of it. You know, also no confidence or maybe we're born with unlimited confidence. And it goes, I don't know. Words, we're not here. The point we're not born with the attributes that we need to achieve the things they want. So by default, if you become a millionaire, you had to do you had to Davos, the faith that you could do thing. After thing out there thing after challenge after a compliment after project after goal out their mission never done before. And you have no evidence that you can do it not in your own life, at least right when you check that rear view mirror and your inner sub-conscious. We'll have you check the past you go. What am I capable of? You'll crap this point nothing. Right. Yeah. So you so that when I think they I'm not talking about faith in a higher power or faith outside of yourself and not discount either of those I have paid both of those. But I'm talking about faith in yourself faith in your limitless potential in your unlimited ability in your ability to make a commitment to do whatever. It takes to. Achieve a goal. That's the faith. I'm talking practical tangible reliable fake 'cause it's not based on anything that is out of your control. It's based on everything that is one hundred percents, or at least very close to it in your control to how do we develop that unwavering faith? It is much easier than you might think. Again. This is what I realize is that you wanna have it will change your life. You have to make it easy. Right. You can't make it complicated. You can't when I wrote my when I wrote the morning, I, you know, my friends like higher ghost rider, how you're not especial writer, and I thought about it. But it's like, you know, what my goal isn't to impress people with how good the writing is. My goal is to get them to change their life. Right. Yeah. So when it comes to unwavering faith the way that you that you stab with it and maintain it is simply by articulating it in writing either on a piece of paper that you, you know, in your journal that you read every day in your phone that you have on your screen. Saver that. You see every day, but it so here's I call this the miracle mantra and the miracle morning the miracle quesion if I developed this I mentioned when I was twenty one years old it was a year and a two months after my car accident. I was trying to break the company sells record and do something that never been done before. And then I found out like I was already kinda nervous too. You know, human being, but we have self doubt fear at all of that. And then the day before the contest started. It was supposed to be a fourteen day sales contest, I was trying to twenty thousand dollars of kitchen knives. I cut coat, right? And our or manager at the meaning the the weekly the team that he said, hey, everybody, just so, you know, I know, you know, the push period, that's the name of the Khan. He's coming up. And he said he now, I don't know if you heard that the conference had to get moved up four days sooner. So you don't have the full ten days or the full. Fourteen days, you only have ten days. So you might wanna just your goals accordingly. And I spent the last few weeks like, you know, mentally trying to get myself to commit and believe I could do this thing that never done before. And he I raised my hand, my heart kind of my stomach. I raised my hand Frank. I said Louise, I did not know this please tell me that this doesn't count for like two records and stuff because we're not we don't get the full time period. Right. Can't count. And he said, no, no, no how I'm sorry. But unfortunately, this counts just like any other push period. And I'm going. No, no, no, no, no. He just took thirty percent of my time. There's no it was already nearly impossible in the allotted fourteen days. Ten days was a miracle right with miracle. And so I went home, and I I I that night. I'm in my head and go. Okay. Should I give up on the goal should I lower? It should I just take the sip is one out and just, you know, go for the next one, whatever. And then I remembered one of the most important lessons I ever learned in my wife. If I'd only learn it a few months prior. So it wasn't like embedded in the at and for anybody listening. I believe this one was valuable lessons that you can learn, and it's my mentor. Dan, peseta taught me this. And he he learned this from his mentor. Jim roam the great Jim Rome. And Dan taught me that, you know, this is in my words, but the purpose of a goal is not to hit the goal the per. That's what we think it we mistakenly think very black and white in terms of our goal that it's either this succeed or failed in tally. If you hit the goal you succeed if you don't hit the goal you fail and most of us don't like failing. So we never even get out the gate to really go outdoor biggest goals and dreams because there's a possibility of failure. And for some of us, they think the likelihood of probability of failure. And so that keeps us playing small living much smaller than we're capable of. And we really wanna be. And so here's the Dan taught me that the real purpose of a goal is not to hit the goal. The real purpose of a goal. Is to give it everything you have until last possible moment, regardless of your results. And if you hit the goal or not because though that that way of approaching every goal develops. You you become the person that you need to be about the qualities and characteristics of someone who can achieve any goal. They set and each goal whether you hit it or not if you pursue it with essentially unwavering, faith and extraordinary effort, then you whether or not you hit it needed. A goal is pales in importance to who you become every time you pursue a goal with that that without you know, that commit level of commitment. And and so I took out. So if I commit to give it everything I have to sell twenty thousand dollars in today's even though that that that that I've never done that feels impossible. But even the goal I will become a bit. There's a better version of waiting on the other side of the days that I I don't even know that guy. I've never been that committed before. So it doesn't matter but the goal so I decided that I was gonna pro Chit and then came the two decisions and I'm sorry. I'm Mormon didn't way answer questions. But I warned you guys. The the, but I I always joke apart. The good thing is you're kind of getting a night off like it's really. Three questions, and I'll feel all the time. There's pros and cons. But anyway of so I so so I kinda reverse engineered it, and I went, okay. Like since this feels like a miracle feels almost impossible. What would I have to do between now and ten days from now for this to happen? And I okay. Well, the for then I reversed. Okay. Well, what what would stop me for making it happen? That's I'll start to figure this out. And the first thing that sought me. It's all mental. Right. It's itself out and fear. Like, I already right now, I almost almost wasn't going to even try this because self doubt and fear is already stopping and I had been in sales for you know, couple years at a point. So I knew that more than likely I'm gonna have bad days. I could even have a bad first week, and I won't be on track to the goal, and I will be my human nature will cause me to feel emotions that will prevent me from wanting to even keep going retrying. If I feel like it's not going to happen. And so I thought the first thing I do is. I've gotta maintain an unwavering, and I don't know if I called, faith or belief about point. I don't remember. But basically, I I have to continuously tell myself remind myself, I am committed to giving it everything I have until the last possible moment, no matter what there is no other option. And by the way, that is the answer of how you maintain unwavering fate. There is no other option. Would you put in writing? I am committed to giving it everything I have to achieve blank outcome. Whatever. Your your mission is. Until the last possible moment, no matter what there is no other option. And so here's what happens. Here's how fear and self doubt stops us when we have when we encounter off cicle a challenge. We don't things don't start playing up respected heeds of fear and self down our planet in our in our mind in our emotion. And what happens is we end up going. The those scenes we focus on them. And what you focus on expand. In this case the scenes of fear out, and you focus on them, you're watering them, and they start to grow. They start to expand. And you go, man. This isn't the way thought gosh, what if things don't get better? What is tomorrow's even worse. What if what if what? Right, and you go down this rabbit hole. You water that seed and all of a sudden it expanded it takes up your entire consciousness. And now, you you you can't think about what you want threat. You're you're overwhelmed with fear and self out. So I just simply didn't go down that rabbit hole. That's how simple. This cancer. Every time I fear dying and leaving my children and my wife behind I have the same miracle mantra. I am committed to giving everything I have to beat cancer and lived to be a hundred plus years old with my family. No matter what there is no other option. Now, let me pause then that mean that was a guaranteed. Absolutely, not the greatest athletes in the world. Have no guarantee they're gonna make every shot. I take. But I heard interviews with the Michael Jordan's and the Kobe Bryant will they believe they're gonna make every shot. They have unwavering faith when the ball hits their hands, the voice in their head is the voice of unwavering faith. I got this. If they miss it. Most players the doubt growed, the self-doubt grows fear grows. What if I'm having an off night? What am I miss again? But the miracle mavens I called the in the book, that's the term I use for people that understand this process to the greatest athletes in the world when the ball at their hands. They believe they make if they miss their faith doesn't wavering back. You see the best players the average players in the NBA. We're even the best great players. But if they miss your shots in a row, the third time about their hands. They pass it back as the self doubts taking over but the greatest players in the world, they could miss three shots in a row. They still call for the ball four shots in a row. Twelve shots in a row. You see the best players in the world. Have the worst three-quarters they've ever had. But they keep shooting because they have unwavered. Fate that they'll make the next shot that they take even if they missed the last seven team. And while there's no guarantee they make more shots than the other ninety nine percent of the players on the court because they approach every shot. They take a shot of metaphorical, you know, a metaphor for any goal. We approach they approach it with onion wavering faith, and it's as simple as the voice in their head. And so at the end of the miracle question book, just like your morning book. There's a miracle question thirty day challenge. And the point of that is ready to intervene to citizens. I know we're gonna wrap up with the second one today. But but your team to for you to stab and reinforce wavering faith every single day for thirty days. So then the thirty days, it's ingrained in you. And you don't have to think about it. You just you'll start saying it without even realizing it's become who you are. And that's what this is about. That's what the miracle about this isn't a one time. Like, all right. I'm gonna apply this to make an million dollars. No these decisions become. The Lind and the filter in which you every experience every opportunity and every challenge that comes your way, they're filtered two lenses, and you're able to take them on in a way that ninety nine percent of our society doesn't understand or doesn't know where they don't realize that they just abide by human nature, whereas the people that overcome cancer the people that that team extrordinary goals, right? They're doing it to the powers of unwavering faith in the second decision, which whenever I stop talking. We can get into. Go on and tell us more about that the extraordinary effort. So once again, if you if you just heard that you'd go. Yes. So supposed to work hard. Got it. How thanks for the profound insight. Right. So no, it's different. Well, first of all, yes. You have to work hard. Right. There's I don't know very many people that did it become the best what they do. And she their goals and dreams without you know, really working hard. And and we're gonna dive into that were hard for a second. Or what I call extrordinary effort hard effort, export hard work, shorten your Everett extraordinary effort. But what what makes that ordinary? So you don't feel overwhelmed by it. Because most people even hearing. Okay. So success, right? Requires it's stored your effort. Yeah. That doesn't sound that sounds like a lot of were like going to turn that switch back on. And then you guys, right? Like, that's what we do. We choose the path that why do we do that in the same way that human nature is to see our? Ourselves based on our pass and to have fear in doubt show up in our in our brains that try to keep a safe even though we're not having run from you know, lions and bears anymore. Like, we're not. We're not caveman. Right. But we saw the same similar that primitive brain still tries to keep a safe from those things. So we live by fear and self out often, very quietly underlying our subconscious in the same way, human nature is to take the path of least resistance because think about it. You'll back to our caveman days, they weren't trying to build companies. They were trying to achieve extraordinary results. They were trying to become millionaires. They were they were built humans are built for survival. They were trying to survive get food have shelter. How fire go to bed and do it again. Right. She think about that. That's human nature is to stay safe and comfortable and there's nothing wrong with that. I I would never judge someone say hell, I I don't wanna become you know. Successful or this or that. I mean, I think we'll we won't meaningful film. And I think that you can't really argue with that wanna be great parents want to be great friends want to be human beings. But if someone's like how beyond that like, I don't need to be financially free. I don't like such fun being comfortable. There's nothing wrong with that. It's on a judgment. But I think for most human beings, we do have an innate desire, and maybe we're conditioned from society. I don't know for this desire. But I think we have desire to fulfill our potential and to achieve a life. That is is everything that we would want and dream, right? And that that to me is what that's what this is about. So human nature is to put forth ordinary, you know, as low effort as possible to not get in trouble or or encounter danger. But if you want to achieve extraordinary results, it requires extraordinary effort now, the they're so in the miracle question in the book, the the way that I break this down is that again how making ordinary extrordinary ordinary. The way that we do that is by first and foremost defining extrordinary up. What does that mean at first glance or I hearing it, you know, I think most people think man, you know, working eighty hours a week, and you know, bustling and grinding and all these things that's not it at all. I guess that is a form of extrordinary effort. But I'm a dad my kids are number one. I I'm not gonna work eighty hours a week. I'm gonna work, you know, forty at the most right like, and so so for me extraordinary for if I defined it would be defined in one word, and that is consistency. If you think about how most of us approach our goals are dream. So most people never get out the gate because if you're in self doubt and just wanting to stay safe and comfortable for those of us that do get out the gate, and we because we're you know, we winter Tony Robbins event, or whatever we're like. All right. I can do any change out of it. I'm gonna be right. Richard by whatever. So they and they call that uninformed optimism. Right. It's where you hear this motivational ri-, you can do it. And then you. Do you? You had it on your path. Did you have been told you can do anything? And then as soon as you encounter an obstacle or it's a lot more difficult than you anticipated. Then we usually the faith goes out the window, and you oh, I give it a shot. Right. I mean, we literally give up so quickly. So are so that's why I say extraordinary about consistency. It's doing something. You don't have to work eighty hours. If you just weren't, you know, thirty minutes a day or sixty minutes a day outside of your current realm of what you have to pay the bills if you just out of thirty minutes a day or sixty minutes day to do one thing that moved you in the direction of your single most important goal or dream in your life that would change your life significantly. Right. So let's say it was to make him to be a millionaire that would give you freedom to quit your job. And do, you know start a business that you loved and spend more time with your family, and and whatever. So let's say you're your mission in the. In the book. I call it your mission. And we could talk about there's undefined but the point is their goals setting goals. I think is I told you to take the night. Self studying goals isn't activity that most people do every year, right or not most people, but those of us that do it. It's a fun activity and many of us. We don't even we do it for the activity because it makes us feel good Oregonian imagining these great things happening. But a lot of us know that we're not gonna make them happen. Anyway, where like if we set them we're like next year? I'll set new ones I won't hit the new ones we do that year after year after year after year after year about setting goals, the funding tippety, but in this book, I talked about how all your all your goals and ask yourself of all these goals, which these helped me become a miracle. Maven? In other words, if we reflect revisit that the real purpose of goal to become the type of person that can achieve anything any goals in your life. Which of the goals on your list is the most meaningful the most significant will change your life, the most and most importantly will change you the most will cause you challenge you to become a better version of yourself that can accomplish way more than the version that we are now. Right. So when it comes. Extrordinary effort. It's taking the your mission. What's the most important goal that you're the and the reason I called mission, by the way because the word mission carries different weight humanitarian organizations carry out missions military, right? The military carries out missions. It's not. I hope I make it. It's I hope I don't die. No. It's a mission guys. We're gonna happen. This is what we're doing. It's going to happen. There is no other option. Right. Right. And so so that's the way it were. You know? Now, look this is how you put your goals. So you hit on what is your mission? What's the single most important goal of the biggest impact on your life? And who you are as a person. Then you you apply the miracle plays into that unwavering faith you filter that mission through the statement that I shared earlier, right? That Europe mantra. And so that that that using language reinforcing commitment to do whatever. It takes no matter what there's no other option to achieve that goal. And then extraordinary is where you get tactical, and you okay, what's the process? That will guarantee I that goal. In other words, every goal every outcome. We're trying to accomplish every result is preceded by process and the process when done repeatedly over an extended period of time, essentially, insures the result. For example, you want to lose weight. Well that usually burning more calories than you're taking and that's your process. Right. Right. So so, and so if you define if you simply commit to that process, and you do it every day over Senate period of time. I unless you have genetic, you know, like a physical thing where you can't lose weight for some reason, right like got fire way, tissue or whatever. Like if you burn more calories you take in. And you burn fat you you can't fail. So that is your process so in the book right in and whether you read the book or not you've got you gotta get clear, what is the process and process should be as simple as possible. I a single recurring activity. You can do every day. If you want to write a book, commit to workout every day that you're gonna sit down and write. And then evidently, you'll have a book. May or may not be a good book, but you can't fail. If you write award the every day, right? Eventually at five hundred today for a hundred days now, you have five thousand base. So that's how it works. So you want to define it that process, and then you remove your emotional attachment to the process because there's no point like I talked about my car accident. You don't even emotionally attached to results that are now in the past once they'd happened. They've happened you need to be remove emotional attachment commit to the process over an extended period of time, and consistency. Is it if you do it until you achieve the goal you can't fail? No, it might take longer than you thought. Most things. Do I wanted to sell million copies of miracle? Warning the first year it came out. I didn't even sell ten thousand copies of the first year and took me six years of applying the miracle quesion because I was committed to maintaining unwavering faith and putting for the short effort until I reached a million people and change a million lives. And I thought it would have my goal was a year. And it took me six. But when you finally get to the point your life is the last thing, I'll say. Unless you asked me another question when you finally get to the point in your life that you've been working for so hard for so long right now, you're in the middle of it, and it feels hard and it feels like it's nothing happening and you're doubting yourself. When you finally is the point, and you will get there, you keep if you say with it, and when you get there and you look back at your journey. You almost never wish it would have happened any sooner when you arrived you look back and you go oh. All of that was necessary. I signed why it took as long as it took. I had to overcome those challenges. Those setbacks those were part of me growing and becoming better and becoming who I needed to be to get to the point about now. And it was the perfect time. So be a peace with where you are now in your life and maintain that healthy sense of urgency every day to work out, you know, twelve hour days just do one thing that moves you in the direction near biggest goals and dreams and your success will move from possible to probable to where you want it, which is inevitable and how we do have one. Last question for you are show is called. Nobody told me. And we always ask our guests. What is your nobody told me lesson? So what is it that you wish someone had told you about miracles or living or gratitude or you can take it wherever you want that you wish that they had. Yeah. You know, the I wish someone had told me, and they have told me I just didn't hear it. I wish I had heard it and that was the importance of celebrating life. Pausing taking time every day. And this is literally I don't celebrate life in a philosophical sense. I mean, literally taking time at the end of the day to reflect and to celebrate what happened that day whether it was right? And and and the quality of our life really we can amplify immediately by looking at every day. There's a, you know, infant thing. Go wrong that countless things that go, right, right? And we tend to folk someone's going wrong with go to bed stressed, and we wake up stress, and now I do what's called I call my miracle evening, and we don't time to go into. I won't give you all the details. But but but I done this like three months like literally figure this out three months ago. And and so I wish I would've told me I wish I would have got that at the end of the day. Look back over your day. And if like, you only need one moment, if you played with your kids, you hugged your kids if you. If you if you over came a challenge, if you were happy when you could have been whatever it is for you, look at that moment and go deep into that Beaumont and try to bring that moment into your heart, and your soul, and every fiber of your being and feel it and then smile and then fall asleep as you're feeling so great about that moment from that day that has been the last three months I've been doing that every night, and it's completely changed my quality of life. Wow. That's good advice. How can people get in touch with you on social media and on the internet? He has Google how L ride you'll find me on YouTube and everywhere, you know, Facebook all this Facebook fraying, gays most. In fact, we have a Facebook group called the miracle morning community with two hundred plus thousand people from seventy countries, it's one of the most engaged positive only communities I've ever seen in the world who joined that. That's then you'll naughtily here for me. I check in there every day, but there's people are supporting each other in really magical ways. And then and then, yeah, the, you know, the new book miracle equation. You can find me there, of course. And that's where ever books are sold. Amazon. Audible, you know, burns a noble anywhere. You can get the book. All thank you so much. How we can't. Thank you enough for all of your amazing, wisdom and advice, and we were really looking forward to having you on we've been big fans for years. And we were certainly not dissappointed. Exactly, exactly. Thank you so much. I really appreciate you having me on both of you. And everyone listening. Thank you for your time. And I hope you got some wisdom today. You can find your life. Definitely did our thanks to hell Elrod again. His latest book is called the miracle equation. The two decisions that move your biggest goals from possible to probable to inevitable, and again, his website is how Elrod dot com. I'm Jan black. And I'm Laura Owens. 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Dance, Dance, Dance

Fame is a Bitch

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Dance, Dance, Dance

"From workhouse connect in. Aj Benza vein. he likes to be walked on a leash and play really dirty. Kinky sex tapes is the GUY. Put the COP in the peacock network. Okay Bitch Hey everybody. Aj Benzene here with fame bitch. This is your podcast for Monday. May Twenty four th twenty. Twenty free podcast. I may not these free podcasts. Down twice a week. I got a Lotta Shit to do lots of stuff. I've gotta right. I got some information about the movie I wrote screenplay I wrote that is interested in perhaps and I've got a free up some time. I'm not gonNA take away from the Patriot folks but I may have slice down to free podcasts. To Day or two a week we will see. But that's what I'm mulling over. But don't worry 'cause if you like what you hear it's so simple to go to patriot dot com forward slash fame as bitch and you get me every day and you guys have been doing it a lot lately so keep it up. I swear to you today show is great. I've got recollections of my dead friend Chico my best friend who was his birthday yesterday May twenty four. I found a poem of his that I read. That has a lot to do with the way. His life went really interesting stuff pointing and stuff. I think you'd like it and you don't enjoy the other day talking about studio fifty four because this is right around the time back in the seventy seventy seven where studio fifty four opened and it started to really pick up a month or so after it opened. It wasn't a smash hit the first night so it it opened April. Twenty six seventy seven. I thought I'd tell you a few more stories now. Seems a good time to bring that out It took about three weeks for studio fifty four to be you know who the dominant club it. It became so after I told that story last week about now's Rogers and writing the Song Freak Out. It made me think of a few more stories that some of you may not know about the club which had a run like no other club in history. I don't care what fucking city living. A lot of people think it must have been around forever studio fifty four because of all the stories and all the documentaries and the movie in the books but not It was open thirty three and a half months. That was it thirty three and a half months before the owners. Ian Schrager and Steve Rebel got taken down by the feds and the whole Party came to a crashing end. But before that happened. Oh my God this stories. The stories are still being talked about some forty years later. Andy Warhol a one said that the key of the success of studio fifty four was that it was a dictator ship at the door but a democracy on the dance floor. Can what a great observation? Steve rebel the velvet ropes with an. I insist to get the perfect blend of guests for his nightly party. He would stand outside either on a step stool or on a small fire hydrant. That was right outside the club and he would decide who would get inside the club. It was very heartless you know it was. The guy seemed like a deranged ruler at times. Plus he was always coked out but during those thirty three months he was without a doubt the most powerful man and all New York City. The mayor and the governor didn't have shit on him and he looked at it like he was always mixing a salad or or casting a play and I've sat in the past with the doormen dot former doorman. Mark Benecke. Who was then in nineteen year old? College can imagine that job. And a guy named Richie. No Dr Ho since you know. Since those days they've always been infamous wherever they worked after that wherever they went they were. They're always known for that and mark once told me that you know you look outside. You'd have a kid who worked at McDonald's next this some movie star or some superstar model and none of it mattered. What did matter was that they had to be dressed in a festive way. They had to be interesting. You have to have higher energy. All they had to be great dancers you know they. They had to show their wares outside even socialites celebrities models they had to bring something to the table and the door code played upon the fundamental human quirk of desperately. Wanting what somebody can't have you know the fact that it was tough to get intimate. Everybody wanted even more. Those who were turned away used to come back night after night. They changed their outfits. They changed their hands styles. They changed the people they went with some tried to. You know. Put money in the palms of the guys work in the door to the tune of thousands of dollars and both. Those guys told me that you know at times. They turn down thousands of dollars in tips. Because Steve rebel found out they would have been fired on the spot. And that was the best job in Manhattan at that time. The Doorman at Studio Fifty Four. Forget it the drugs to see the influence the power nothing match that although both guys told me once they learned the ropes and things were kind of less strict. They figured out a way to have their palms grease without being too obvious. Can you imagine? Can you imagine if there was pay pal or then Mo back then? Oh my God could have retired on those tips. And when I was hanging around with my buddy johnny actually when I was hanging around with Jay. Barrymore trues Mont. She was a regular. She told me people would. Sometimes they would do anything to outdo the other person so that they could be pointed to get in and that included having sex standing up right there in st and sometimes it was two strangers who didn't even know each other there so desperate to get in that they would agree to do it if it meant getting in one. Halloween two girls took out a five hundred dollar loan to rent a horse which they then rode nude to the velvet ropes. They they were addressed nude blog as to lady. Godiva is and you want to hear some great. The horse was granted entry. The women were not. They walked away crying. Could you imagine they let a fucking whore in but the chicks had to go go? So a lot of people steve rebel and his army of doormen and the balances appeared to be you know. Dick's to a lot of but it was. Never a personal. Steve rebel had certain criteria. But he knew that if he wasn't the owner he wouldn't be allowed in either and the amount of rejection got so bad that they were club employees. They had a job that they they would have to go strip nearby garbage cans of all the bottles and cans so that there was less of a chance for people being turned away for grabbing. Something out of the garbage can and throwing shit while they were rejected. Because it happened and Mark Benecke. Houston needed an escort back to his apartment and as the night wore on the people outside got more drunk they got more high and there were times when some regulars who believe in would get show and beat up at a jealousy one desperate guy once tried to literally crash the VIP entrance in his oldsmobile. A car whizzed by and guy in the driver's seat yelled out. Hey asshole and he pointed a rifle at one of the guys work in the club another time. Some club employees began to pile out the back of the club in the early morning hours. And somebody did pull the trigger. Shoot at them next thing you know. They're flying under cars trying to stay alive and You know some disgruntled guys were waiting in their car across the street with loaded guns unbelievable so it was that kind of place and like I said the club's popularity it started out. Slow wasn't really big from the first night but things got cracking when Steve rebel. Got This phone call from the fashion designer. Halston early morning in the phone rings and Halston You know this is big time because Steve rebel at this point wasn't known by anybody. Halston wanted to have a birthday party for Bianca Jagger on a Monday and that's when the club was closed like a lot of venues clubs closed on Mondays. It's dark night. What's the rebels said fucked out? We're GONNA make an exception. So he went all out. He knew this is it this is GonNa make or break. The club If a party for Bianca Jagger was thrown the right way then they knew they were on their way so he called everybody he knew a New York to come and help them blow up hundreds of white balloons and he sends somebody to the stables for a horse right. Now this is this is an early. May and Bianca Jagger celebrated in grand style. She was very over the top and Halston had about one hundred and five hundred and fifty people who were there but these were considered the best people from Mikhail Baryshnikov. Jacqueline beset Everybody who was anybody. Steve rebel asked one of his beefy bartenders to put on a diaper and pop out of this giant birthday cake but the highlight of the night occurred right around midnight. Have Studio Fifty Four. Had this big half moon that would be up in the rafters and at a certain time it would come down. It wasn't just a half moon. It was a half moon that also had a spoon and giants spoon of cocaine would go up the half. The the band's facing the Moon so whenever the half moon did a bump of cocaine everybody in the club took out their coke and didn't at the same time Nobody was hiding in the men's room. Ladies Room getting high they all did it right out in the open. So he's got all these fancy people come into club. He asked the bodyguard diaper around midnight and around that he has this beautiful white horse was led out from behind the stage curtain by this nude couple and the couple of slathered and paint and sparkles and glitter and Bianca Jagger cakes place next to the horse which tries out onto the dance floor and tons of people taking pictures photographers so thrilled. Everybody's blinded by the flashbulbs and that stunt was one of the most effective stunts in the history of club publicity because photos of Bianca Jagger on horseback were appearing in every paper around the world. And then it just snowballed from there And that got everything role and in fact the photos also gave birth to this myth that still around today That Bianca jacker actually rode into the club on the horse. But she didn't. That was the story with the two girls who address this lady. Godiva but Bianca Jagger is tried to correct that myth forever even as late as four years ago. Because she's a real staunch animal activists. Who would never do that? She even wrote open letters to the Financial Times and Shit like that saying I'm an environmentalist. An animal rights defender. I find the insinuation that I would ride a horse into a nightclub offensive blah blah blah. But after that night the club got so hot that some people would resort to anything ticket in if they were turned down the door. I knew a guy in New York City. During those years he was a sometime source of mine. His name was Baird Jones. He passed away about ten years ago and Baird was an infamous New York City character. He was a party promoter. A photographer and author A Rich Kid you know trust fund kid is Father Edited Time Magazine and Founded People magazine. So you can imagine and life was just one big party for and he was friends with that dwarf actor Mike Anderson from twin peaks and Baird really pushed the limits having been in studio fifty four for years. He began to throw parties. When I was in New York. Trying to resurrect that kind of attitude toward party throw party throwing and he started parties that featured dwarf tossing and midget bowling. He may have seen this shit on the news and it got tons of press and then it got the attention of the Governor Mario Cuomo then they signed legislation and it was banned before really caught on but it was a big thing for a while and he had great studio fifty four stores. He told me. Some friends once climbed down from the building next door in full mountain climbing gear. Ropes tied around their fucking shoulders. You know scaling of building and they were trying to get into the courtyard next fifty four or right into and they they got tangled in the barbed wire and they fell to the cement pave in which is about ten feet below. One Guy got really fucked up needed a stretch. Her One guy broke his wrist and broke his neck but he was still thrilled that when he looked up he knew he made it inside the courtyard. That was everything to win at one guy was less lucky. One Guy got stuck in the vent trying to get in from the roof and people's they didn't know that until people said they smelled like a fucking dead cat had died and his body was eventually found in the in the ducks he was in black tie. I mean there's people try to anything so studio did so many amazing things over the top things that there are a lot of club on his my age. Who just missed the fifty four era like I did but when they opened their clubs and restaurants in the late eighties and nineties they did things to emulate Steve Rebellion Schrager. There was this one restaurant called castle of FEM. Always doing fun. Shit these guys Manhattan Ebrahim One time they hung gauze from the ceiling and it draped around the actually. Did that a lot. It is beautiful. Dog would be draped from the ceiling and it would be go around the booths and create these intimate little spots for people to separate them from the commoners. Who might be there so to speak? Just enough privacy for some people to partake in drugs or sex one night. They had a truck porn twenty tons of sand onto the restaurants floor so that there was no floor was just like you're walking in a desert another time. They laid down Saad for a week. You went to the restaurant you walked on. Saad. I mean both. Those ideas came from studio fifty. Four Stephen Ian would spend thousands of dollars for just one night a one night only production would cost thousands. I mean they've put Broadway shows to shame the shit that dead set decorators who work in Hollywood work there and you know they do this magnificent stuff and the very next night given all be gone like one night to design a car. Lagerfeld held a Candlelit Eighteenth Century Party with the staff in courtrooms and powdered wigs. Elizabeth Taylor's birthday had a performance by the rock cats while she watched sitting on a float of Gardenias for Valentine's Day studio fifty four was transformed into a garden. Flowerbeds picket fencing and a group of people playing the Harps Jean Carlos GM Eddie. He threw a circus team. Birthday Party for purrs business partner. Valentino the designer data circus ring with sand and mermaids on Trapeze Federico Fellini. The Great Italian direct gave them costumes from his film. The clowns I mean closure. Fuck does that anymore. And one of the most memorable parties ever was held in honor of Dolly Parton and she was visited New York City because she had some concert dates in seventy eight and Steve rebel created a like a farm setting to help her feel more at home and they had haystacks and horses and donkeys and mules running around the club. They got the animals from some fauna dental. They had big wine barrels. Still corn farm wagons filled with. Hey even chicken pen. I can only think what those animals felt like hearing that music blasting but turned out dolly was really freaked out by it and freaked out by how many people showed up and she never had a studio fifty four experience and she was real nervous about the whole thing. She went up to the balcony and sat there for a while and she just wasn't comfortable should never good time at our own party. But there was a big part of the same year July celebrating the release of the movie grease with Travolta and Olivia Newton John rebel schrager recreated the whole movies retro set. You walked in and there was a bunch of hallways with nothing but lockers. High School lockers on both sides. And then you went into the main part of the club and he had all these convertible cars from the fifties. There was an auto museum. They found some place in Jersey and they agreed to bring the cars up. So then these six or seven big Fin. Classic cars were parked on the dance floor but a few minutes before the party started in the club. Open the fire marshal came in and they said you can't have this. The cars haven't been drained of Gasoline so each vehicle had to be taken to the street where they emptied the tanks and then pushed back in by hand. Those things too. I WANNA say a ton. They weighed probably two tons and the party would offer that a hitch. There was one incident that was nineteen fifty Chevy convertible that got a bit trash because people climbed in and burn the seats. Selah at the end up paying for new seats but the party was wild. And you know life went on but I'll always remember the stories. My Buddy Johnny boy told me about fifty four. Johnny boy was the friend who only missed five nights out of the thirty three and a half months and he took me to studio fifty four on New Year's Eve in the year two thousand. They opened it up for a special party. He wanted to show me the place so he can walk me through all the crazy no nooks and crannies to see what his sex was had and the drugs were done and I always heard about sex cubicles in the basement or the rubber room and the balcony. Once you found yourself inside that there are there hollowed ground. Once you're in the hallowed grounds at studio fifty four the next place. You wanted to go. Once you're in. There was the basement. It was a cavernous dingy. Really unglamorous space decorated with damage banquets and pillars and all carpets rolled up set pieces from all the parties. Were there just like a storage room but gigantic and it was down. There were a privileged. Few would be invited to indulge in their wildest desires. A lot of celebrities went down to the basement security guys with walkie-talkies to patrol the area and they would just remove the uninvited people they would mess with the celebs the rich people and you know there was secluded areas. Whether were mattresses thrown down king size mattresses which were replaced every week and that became a popular place to go down. Get High and fuck on. I mean right out in the open. The other area was the balcony. Johnny took me up there. The balcony was a pulse. It in rubber because it was just easier to clean. You can imagine what they had to clean up a lot of common. A lot of coke you could easily wipe that down with one. You Know One. Swing of a sponge. Maybe some squirt clorox to but you know easy peasy. There was even something above the rubber room beyond secretive up. There where you know the made real big shots that God's could go up there and engage in any chosen vice high above the dancers and like I said the common folk. It was a place of secrets secretions. Let's put it that way Lot of sucking snorting dawn on if you know what I mean. But the thing that was the downfall of studio fifty four was not the drugs and the sex. It was the accounting. It always comes down to the accounting. Not The sex and drug in nineteen seventy seven. The club made millions but it reported it paid eight thousand taxes. You can't do that. I mean skimming was a standard practice in the world of restaurants and nightclubs who were making money hand over fist but that was an insane unrealistic level of lying and cheating on taxes. See like I said. Greed is always what sucks things up and each morning. Massive portions of the previous night's take would be stuffed in garbage cans and it would be hidden above ceiling panels or would be smuggled back to rebels apartment and and concealed in hidden compartments around his place in one day. Rebel who is probably still high for the night before he got cocky and he was joking to a radio host that with the IRS doesn't know won't hurt him and then he started bragging to New York magazine. Only mafia makes more money than we do. Can't say shit like that. I made the same mistake on Howard. Stern one time saying how easy it was for me to go to Cuba illegally. Three times next thing. I know I got the Treasury Department up my ass threaten to lock me up finding me ten thousand dollars in stopping me from visiting Cuba again but rebel had so much money he thought he was unstoppable for Andy. Warhol's Fiftieth Birthday in seventy eight. He gave Andy a roll of five thousand free drink tickets and a big silver garbage cans filled with thousands of dollars worth of Chris. New Dollar Bills Warhol said it was the best present he ever got but then it caused tension years later when the IRS raided rebels office and they found out his financial records show that the garbage can only had eight hundred dollars and then actually pissed warhol off he thought God damn I knew I should accounted that shit but you know only. They knew they were going to get locked up rebellion Schrager when they knew they threw a gigantic star studded farewell party before they were sent off to prison it was a big thing in New York because the IRS raided fifty four December fourteenth nineteen seventy eight and they walk down there. There's pictures on the Internet garbage cans full of cash full of financial documents. Five ounces of cocaine which is nothing but Stevens and were arrested and accused of skimming two and a half million dollars in club earnings that November. They pled guilty to two counts of corporate and personal income tax evasion and the judge shocked the court by giving them the maximum penalty three and a half years in prison and twenty thousand dollars in fines the following February just before they would do to to serve their time they throw one last bash and they call it the end of Modern Day Amora and the final blow out was intimate compared to most other nights just two thousand of studio fifty. Most famous faithful people showed up. Richard Gere Halston Reggie Jackson Andy Warhol Lorna Love Sylvester Stallone Diana Ross. She sang for the deejay booth. Liza minelli Say New York New York Steve Rebels walking around with Sinatra for. You know singing my way which they've played on repeat over and over again as they did with. Gloria Gaynor's song the anthem. I will survive and from a mechanical platform high above the dance floor. Steve rebel addressed his guests with a very emotional speech. He was poked out of his mind. Obviously Bianca Jagger hugging him. And he's saying I love you people. I don't know what I'm GONNA do without studio. And everybody was crying and weeping and the New York Post columnist named Jack. Martin found rebel in the early morning hours and it was all spaced out and fucked up and he accepted what was going to happen to them. It was a very sad going away party but you know they still were laughing and having fun they were actually all together until he took a car to go home and meet the authorities and only then was the party officially over. And I don't care what you've done and where you've gone and what you've seen in Europe since then I've seen a lot. Nothing was like those nights at Studio Fifty Four. I'm AJ broadcast for May Twenty Fifth Twenty. Twenty I'll talk to you tomorrow. Thank you for listening famous. A bitch is an AJ Benza. House connect production featuring the endless wisdom insightful commentary in sometimes fucked up perspective of AJ Benza executive producer. Mike Agostino technical producer Brian Vasquez.

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