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"greg jacobsen" Discussed on The Joe Rogan Experience

The Joe Rogan Experience

13:08 min | 4 months ago

"greg jacobsen" Discussed on The Joe Rogan Experience

"That changed the whole I mean it didn't change but impacted. The Motor Melchior was a principal witness again. 'cause Charlie wasn't at the Tate House. Manson has a Bluesy had to convict him of conspiracy and other words ordering people to go up there and kill and he had to have a reason for that house. Oh Terry provided by saying yes I did go out there and try to record them and then eventually in the question it came out but I never had anything to do with them again. I had no idea I never saw him heard from him. Motivation was revenge Terry Melcher because Tom Terry. Melcher didn't turn him into a star right. So this is what does he was using. But it didn't make any sense because Melcher saw him after the murder several times. Yeah and not only even if it makes it didn't make sense you're you're right and that's why. I think I think you could get away with anything. Then because the antics of the family at the trial and everybody was so horrified by what was going on. Nobody was looking at this critically in questioning stuff because every day you know Manson and the girls are getting thrown out of the courtroom for screaming for singing dancing for mocking the proceedings All the state under the radar but once I could prove that maltreat allied and then two or three more than I knew that I had to question the entire narrative so pompeo see started monitoring my interviewing. This is all laid out in the beginning of the book so by the fall of the first year of Ninety Nine. I got a call. From one of my sources Rudi. Altobelli was another important witness. He was the man who owned the House. Where the murders happen. He was traveling. He was traveling actually in Europe with Sharon who had come back about Sharon tape about three weeks before to have a baby And Rudy told me from the very beginning. He was very close to Terry. Dennis Wilson and third guy. Greg Jacobsen Jacobsen was another important witness who lied throughout the whole all of his testimony in the trial to fit a narrative pence needed Rudy had told me that pence called him Excuse me Terry called him. What are you telling this? O.`Neil no one was supposed to know about that. Men's promise me it would never come out so at that point. I knew that I was onto something even bigger. And then I got a call from thence and he left a message on my machine saying he wanted to talk to me. It was important so I called him back and he said you know what I'm hearing. I can't remember who told me that was another little game of his. He would never be flayed trump saying this guy said to me or one of my friends. Are they say Vincent someone told me? I heard that you're questioning my tactics and my choices at the trial. Is that true? You know Tom what's what's going on here. I go well you know. I'm looking at stop and you know you knew where this was going. I mean I know. We haven't taught at that point. We hadn't talked for about six weeks. I think he goes. I want you to assure me that all be given the opportunity to answer any of these questions. He goes because what might appear irregular. You as a lay person can be easily explained by me. I said well of course fence. I'll definitely swing back around to you before because I thought this was going to be out in August and we were in October. I think I go. Yeah Yeah I got it extends well. There are also saying you're doing. It's a book and that you lied that it's not a magazine strike. Oh no no. I'm still getting paid by premier. 'cause I was at that point and I had no idea it was going to be a book because we're still in the first six seven months so at that point we stopped talking. Bendtsen. I and it wasn't until two thousand and five when I got my book deal that I went back to him with these questions and I thought hoped naively that I would get him to break down and say yes. This is all a operation. I was optical God that was stupid but you know I thought what else can you say when I put all this fun him but you know as he must have been really freaked out by how deep you got into this. Yeah well again. You've read the prologue to the book where we open in that scene in his kitchen where he screaming and cursing at me and saying he's going to hurt me like I've never been hurt before. And he's going to sue me for one hundred. I'll hundreds of millions of dollars. It's crazy when you got to the end of the book you'll see the outcome of that day. And what happened when he's begging me. He's saying he'll give me a a quote on the cover my book if. I don't publicist stuff and and then when I wouldn't agree to anything then the lawsuit threat started happening. So I- naively. I didn't think he was going to break down and say I was working for someone else. I had no choice but instead he was evasive threatening screaming. Denying here two recorders two recorders. He's not. He went off the record every two minutes. So we'd have to turn off. All the quarters and bents was not turning. I'm like ventured in Turner's back. You didn't turn it off weight and now that's my record. Now this is yours so women and he's screaming and cursing at me going. Do you have any idea how? Fuck you you fucking put this in your book. And then the records go back on but sometimes they were already on because we couldn't keep up with all the off the record cheese then when I got home that night so I walk out of the House. Six hours exactly almost six hours just like the first time six years earlier. He's grabbing me by the arm of this isn't quid pro quo. This isn't quote but if you don't put this ridiculous nonsense in he. Goes you know a blurb from Vince people always referred to himself in the third person of blur from Vince. Polio's on the cover. This book of no idea what that doesn't I rarely do. I'm very selective. I get asked ten twenty times a day. I mean the man's Egos. You'll see that in the book that I get home that night. There's messages comic comic and he called me. I think it's a week. We can have almost every day the next morning a few days later trying to he would bully me and then he say no. No you know look this is going to do to my family. My kids all that went on and on and on so had to be very excited by that knowing that like this. Oh yeah there's no there's no reason for that guy to react like unless you had them. I know I know and then he knew. Yeah so you're not a year later. He said when we finally he goes at the very the very last phone call which was the week and a half later he goes. So you really gonna go ahead and do it this. Go ahead with Vince. I'm going to report what I have. I go if you want at this point. I had lost the magazine deal it ended. I had sold the book so he knew. I had a publisher. I told them who it was and he asked for my editor's name there. He said because I will be sending them a letter he goes. I will work on this letter for hours. It's going to be a complete rebuttal of everything. You argued the all of your arguments all your points. It's GonNa ruin you. They're gonNA cancel your because they're not stupid so he wrote the letter they got it and I think it was June or July after February of that year two thousand and five and I got a call from my editor. He said you gotTa Talk to our attorneys he goes. We have a letter from fence. I go I told you it was coming. He goes insane. It's thirty four pages single space with fifty pages of attachments and he goes. I've never seen anything like this. So he said talk talk to the attorneys so they sent me over to the attorney and he said my first question. I'd never met the guy before he goes my first question for you. O'neill is is. He suffering from dementia he goes. I was a law student during the trial and he goes. I follow the trial every day in the paper. I've read helter skelter. He was brilliant. He goes. I can't believe the person that wrote. This letter wrote that book. So maybe you were dealing with somebody who is impaired. I said he's mentally ill and a lot of that in the book He. It's not the match I go. He's finishing his magnum opus. A twenty year effort to write a book of rebutting the critics of the the Warren Commission about the Kennedy assassination. I always got a book coming out a tour and sure enough he wrote. I think two or three more books after that I go. He's just I caught him. He goes all of his arguments. Don't make sense. He's contradicting himself. The letter goes off in directions. It sounds like it's written by a madman I go going to inhibit us he goes. Oh No we're we're opening the champagne here. I mean he wouldn't write a letter like this unless you got. Fifty pages of attachments was the first letter then about six months later another letter. I think there were four. Total I quote some of them in the book it was knots and unfortunately he passed away in two thousand fifteen or sixteen and I get a lot of criticism. I mean. Get it from when he died I think seventy four or five. It was cancer. I know he was sick off and on for a couple of years but I've been accused by critics of not publishing the book until he died because of these threats. Not I wanted him to be alive. I wanted him to be accountable and have to answer to all this. The reason I didn't publish it when I was GONNA publish it was penguin. My publisher cancelled by deal in two thousand eleven and then sued me for a return of the advance which cripple I couldn't. Why did they do that Well the book was originally in Two Thousand and eight and then I'm not good with the deadline that out. It's a great book even if it took you twenty years to ride it. Yeah no I mean they. They extended it and then in two thousand and eleven. They lost their patients. And I it was a surprise. 'cause I I knew that. The editor and the publisher Penguin Press the imprint. Who Very serious publishers? Very well known. I knew I thought that they believed in me and understood why was still taking long so when I got the call it was devastating and then even worse is the year later. My agent got served with papers and they took me to court never got to court. It was resolved but they sued me for my advance which was substantial. And I'm not allowed to say anything except that it was resolved because there's nondisclosures but let's just say you've I mean you putting me on here and they advanced stuff you help the cells and still not making money because a lot of people So that was crushing and it held up the book because we couldn't take it out and try to resell it until it was resolved took about a year and a half to two years to resolve the lawsuit. I luckily I got a pro. Bono lawyer busted broke And then once we resolve the lawsuit was about two thousand sixteen seventeen then we could take it out but we weren't sure we were going to be able to sell it because it had this bad history trailing so from two thousand eleven two thousand sixteen. It's in limbo. Well it is except I. I worked just as hard every single day and then I was involved with a director and I kinda hinting. The book who it is but I mean. I don't think it's a secret errol Morris. Do you know who he is He did Thin Blue Line Bob. Okay Yeah He's won an Academy Award for documentary made about Robert McNamara. So THEY WANNA make a book about term Errol Air Mars. I think you had a son on Hamilton. The size. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Yeah Well Hamilton. He wasn't officially part of this project but he came to the shoots errol approached me. He actually is a writer for Penguin. Press an author. He writes books too. not too often but occasionally and he knew about my book because they had asked him at one point he wanted to collaborate on it with me when when. I was struggling with it and he said no. I WanNa make a movie about it. And they said it's not a movie. It's a book maybe after so what my deal got cancelled and I was in limbo. I thought why can go to now. I'd never met him or spoken to him but I sent him. An email got his email address and he called me the next day and he goes. Are you kidding me he goes? I've always he goes out with fat because he got my proposal. He said I was so fascinated by this story. And I've always wanted to do something on both Manson and K Alterra so it took about six months of legal stuff because since my book was still owned by Penguin but the suit was happening and he helped this process he got them to allow him to work with me on what became an was going to be a Netflix series. He sold he. He shot What do you call it a teaser? So he spent two days and this was two thousand fourteen with me. One day at my bungalow where he wired it with like fifteen cameras on remote cables and the ceilings and then interviewed me all day At the house at my house and going through all my files and everything and.

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"greg jacobsen" Discussed on Dateline NBC

Dateline NBC

07:54 min | 8 months ago

"greg jacobsen" Discussed on Dateline NBC

"September ninety two thousand seven dawned in Chicago like any other late summer day. Hot Humid Humid. Wendy the usual except for one thing now Ula Franklin ambitious dependable and always on her phone was suddenly radio. Silence even with your new love. Hombre called that morning emailed her call again early afternoon and that's what he sent her that all caps email are you alive and you probably didn't mean it the way it really was like say to someone there but the end of the workday. Big Sister Leah did get a call not from Nyala but from Naylor's boss. He said she had missed a meeting immediately. Lately my spidey senses were were high so of course I tried to call her. Didn't get her. Joe Leah Cold Noodles friends or other siblings. Had anyone heard from at that day I didn't speak for the day before and I'll say no. I haven't actually haven't had been really busy and I haven't talked to her cool to cold career. She called the Chicago. PD Missing Persons Report. And then she drove over the ninety list condo knocked on the door no answer she got a key she went in. You see her eggs and coffee that she had just left there Just our sums wrong just like you know what this isn't this isn't right right then. Lia got professional she knew how she's a public relations executive and she called every media contact she had and you kind of went wide. I Don this thing your pr impulse really kicked in. Yes we use experiece told her not to hope too much media help for one very unfortunate the reason quite frankly I don't know of a lot of women of color. People of Color who get the same attention by the public can general that old saw in in the media business in fact. There's some truth to it. I think it's not just the the the Good looking young blonde goes museum. The whole moral ones know about it and stay talking about it for years. It's not quite the same now and there is reality to that. It troubles the mind that when people of color go missy or if it doesn't fit the narrative of gun violence or gang violence or something like that then somehow it's not it's not it's not real so we knew that Leo was not to beat. Well they were. And maybe this was. Because of LIA's media savvy the next morning now he lives. Picture was all over the news. ooh Flyers with her picture are taped to traffic posts and handed out to people passing by. We were in the streets and put every any place we could downtown Suburbs they phoned texted an email their friends but no one reported see Nyala. No one sister get replaying their last conversation she called me and she said I've got something to tell you. And before she could tell me she got a call on the other line and she clicked over and she says she'll call me back she didn't call you. She didn't come back awful bill with a persons. Mike Churn up in the dark day one became to three. I kept calling her and kept caller. I just kept thinking. She's GonNa ask her. She's going to answer that she's going to answer. There's no handbook for this. So you wake up and you think it's a bad dream and no it's still real case of the missing pharmaceutical representative landed on the desk Sergeant Mia al-jahra and Detective Greg Jacobsen. Who right away scan your phone records? They found something alarming just after ten pm the night nine eleven her cell phone made three calls the the nine one one emergency voice no struggles. Those could be heard no background noise. With exception of some light music in the background could become eerie. To hear that is it is. Is the person physically unable all to complete the conversation and just able to dial nine one one so the investigators said about talking to just about everybody. Now you knew there was interviews completed through doctorship visited to try to retry tracer steps and people. She encountered everyone anyone that we knew had a relationship with her. ESPN our campaign helped because he had some anonymous tips People saying that they saw her at this location but not a single one of them lead deny now the detectives believe they were dealing with serious crimes at yet. She's missing technically. There hasn't been a crime committed that makes it somewhat awkward. When you're looking into it but anyone that we knew that had contact with her boyfriend that she was in Wisconsin with we can before she went missing and they were all interviewed? The boyfriend from Wisconsin Andre had come to Chicago was helping with the search and soon was perhaps the subject of it they can do. They did the perfect boyfriend now to police perfectly obvious person of interest Coming up a discovery in an empty parking lot it was in a secluded area right adjacent to woo. I watched enough dateline to know. That's probably a good sign a strange sight to be sure. But what if anything did it have to do with Nyla. 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"greg jacobsen" Discussed on Young Charlie by Hollywood & Crime

Young Charlie by Hollywood & Crime

04:12 min | 1 year ago

"greg jacobsen" Discussed on Young Charlie by Hollywood & Crime

"When the grand jury reconvened on Monday December Assemble Eighth Prosecutor Bouillaud see presented witnesses who provided more evidence against Charlie and the four family members responding officers described describe the scene at Cielo drive and the discovery of a latent print matching tex watson's from his April arrest gun expert Ed Lomax asserted that that the gun handle found at the tate residents belong to a twenty two caliber bunt mind Longhorn revolver Joe Granado of Lapd Scientific Investigations Division gave testimony on the blood evidence and the rope tied around tate and CBN's necks Greg Jacobsen talked about Charlie's Charlie's relationship with Terry Melcher former resident of the property straight Satan biker Danny dicarlo testified he had gone with Manson to buy three strand nylon rope and had witnessed Charlie and text taking target practice with a bunt line twenty two caliber revolver at the spahn ranch. He also confirmed that Charlie frequently wore leather thongs around his neck similar to the ones found tied around lean law Bianca's wrists. It was four seventeen in the afternoon when the grand jury began its deliberations took them only twenty minutes to reach their conclusion Charles Manson. Listen Tex Watson Susan Atkins and Linda Ca Sapien were indicted on seven counts of murder and one count of conspiracy spiracy to commit murder Leslie Van Houten who had been present only at the law Bianca's scene was indicted on two counts of murder and one count of conspiracy commit murder four months after the murders that had shaken Hollywood and the country to its foundation formal charges have been brought against the five suspected killer's. Gary Hinman often supplemented lamented music teacher income by dealing drugs to his to Panga Canyon neighbors. One recent transaction involves thousand tabs of Mescaline that fellow musician Bobby Beausoleil Beausoleil delivers to the straight Satan Motorcycle Club acting as a go-between for Hinman. When the bikers tell bobby the product is substandard and demand their money back Charlie season opportunity. He tells bobby to take Mary Brunner and Susan Atkins over the Henman's place. They are to demand not only the thousand dollars is owed the straight Satans but the money Charlie needs to fund his Death Valley operation when bobby calls a little later. Charlie isn't happy with what here's his. Gary refused so bobby beat him until he signed over ownership of his two cars that might cover what he does the straight Satan and does nothing to satisfy Charlie proceeding yet another betrayal Charlie rides over to Henman's brandishing twenty and sword ord. He demands that Gary turnover everything he owns to the family when Henman protests that he has nothing more to give Charlie slashes him across the face with the sword partially severing his ear Hinman Begs for mercy reminding Charlie that he's always been a good friend of the Family Charlie heads back to spine leaving bobby with instructions not to leave until Hinman has signed over everything. He owns the next time bobby calls. It's with the news that after repeated beatings Gary has failed to come up with any more money and is now threatening to go to the police. It's clear to Charlie what must be done but he decides that him men's death will serve another larger purpose. Charlie prophesied a race. I swore and it shows no sign of happening on his schedule. If bobby can make it look like Gary Hinman was killed by the Black Panthers it might just initiate helter skelter.

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"greg jacobsen" Discussed on Young Charlie by Hollywood & Crime

Young Charlie by Hollywood & Crime

07:40 min | 1 year ago

"greg jacobsen" Discussed on Young Charlie by Hollywood & Crime

"On december first sheriff. Tom montgomery of mckinney texas told the los angeles d._a.'s office that unless he received an arrest warrant within two <music> hours he would set his cousin tex watson free vincent bouillaud see hurry down to file official charges against watson in the tate murders before before the deadline expired by now it had been learned that joseph krenwinkel had secured the release of marnie reeves following her arrest at the rate on spahn ranch back in august marnie reeves aka mary sue scott aka katie turned out to be patricia krenwinkel of inglewood california. Yeah joseph cooperated with police telling them. His daughter was staying with her aunt in mobile alabama within hours mobile authorities were at the ants door for but we're told patricia wasn't home as the two officers drove away. They noticed a girl in another car quickly. Pull her hat down to hide her face. The car was stopped and patricia. Krenwinkel was arrested for the california homicides by early afternoon december. I the only suspects suspects still at large was linda sapien the following day qossaibi and turned herself into authorities in concord new hampshire. She admitted she'd been present at the tate eight home and had witnessed the murders but claimed she hadn't participated in them. She waive extradition and was flown back to los angeles by the evening evening of december third. Authorities were confident that the five individuals responsible for the tate and law bianca killings were all behind bars. It all He now realizes toughening for the road to jerusalem. It's the fool who count his blessings and gives thanks. The wiseman counts his hardships in the knowledge that it's the wounds and obstacles that four german so without prison would never have encountered the pimps and hustlers who gave him the tools to gather his lost tribe without the pain and isolation of his childhood he would never have gained insight on how to transcend both every fall. All step is a lesson every slight a blessed by late nineteen sixty eight charlie splitting time between dennis wilson's log cabin mansion attention and the spahn ranch. He's got squeaky. Attending to old george spawns needs and he's free together as troop of lost children for l._s._d. Fueled fueled blessings on what life will be like in the coming age of charlie and it isn't only these wayward travelers who sense the greatness in him when neil young comes by the log cabin one afternoon. The two of them have an impromptu jam session in young walks away impressed. Charlie has an amazing amazing ability to generate lyric. Spontaneously young later tells a warner brothers producer. Though nothing comes of it denison greg jacobsen keep working on terry melcher to let charlie audition terry like greg before him seems more interested in ruth and more house than in the performer destined to be a bigger than the beatles but greg has come through for charlie looking him session in a van nuys recording studio charlie walks away with some tapes to to pass around to anyone willing to listen dennis thinks charlie's original tune ceased to exist something he can work with the prospect of being of beach boy collaborator peaks charlie sense of hope and expectation. It's not solo career. He's imagine but it's a step in that direction. Attorney richard looking at several potential murder sites. They found themselves himselves at the law bianca residents. The only connection seemed to be next door neighbor. They had met on one or two occasions drug parties. Charlie gained entry to the house and tied the couple up then he returned to the car and told watson krenwinkel and van houten to go inside and kill them and that was it in a two hour tape sadie mae glutz detailed the murderous events of those two nights in her high pitched little girl's voice giggling as she described sharon tate's last moments sharon went through quite a few changes. She laughed quite a few changes so it isn't a greg jacobsen jacobson fails to see the darker side of charlie beyond the fuzzy talk of spiritual awakening and losing one's ego charlie drops hints of the racial chill and political strife. He believes about to engulf america. There are forces loose in the cities and towns that are alien to the peace and love that so enraptured the post post world war two generation charlie disdains the middle class origins of these kids and recoils at the label allowed to be attached to them through popular culture. His people are not hippie. He says but slippy sub population of young people who've slipped through the cracks on wanted and unwashed unwashed foreigners in their own homes as far removed from their peace nick brethren as dark his from he has no use for generation of slumming posers able to return to their comfortable lives whenever they choose they tacitly accept society's values even as they flout them their indulgence indulgence and free sex and drugs is much shock their parents as out of a real understanding that freedom means to give up everything to die that you may live. Isn't that what the bible teaches. Jacobson isn't put off by. Charlie's rance doesn't take them all that seriously in the next instant charlie will slip back into his crooner crooner masking belt out an impromptu tune. You never knew which charlie you're going to get but he always held your interest around those. He feels the need to impress. Charlie can be anything you want him to be on.

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"greg jacobsen" Discussed on Young Charlie by Hollywood & Crime

Young Charlie by Hollywood & Crime

04:01 min | 1 year ago

"greg jacobsen" Discussed on Young Charlie by Hollywood & Crime

"Dennis wilson frequent rows with brother brian and other bandmates. It's a welcome message. Charlie isn't shy i about describing himself as a singer songwriter in search of a recording contract well if his music is anywhere near as good as as wrap this just might be denis's mrs chance at a creative reverse ever since the beatles toppled the beach boys on the record charts. The brothers have been feuding. Could charlie provide a way out of of dennis's musical doldrums by the end of the morning. Dennis begins to consider the possibility that picking up those two hitchhikers might just be the best thing what's happened to him in a long time. Yes he will try to help. Charlie and maybe charley can help him. Dennis decides to make a call greg. Jacobsen is exactly the guy who could get charlie on track. Uh deputy district attorney bouillaud see felt confident that three of the tate labianca killer's were behind bars though none had as yet been formally charged charged in those crimes to other female suspects were still at large linda whose name detectives had learned was kosabe. Ian was rumored to be living in a commune in new mexico and marnie reeves aka. Mary sue scott aka katie was believed to be on a farm outside mobile alabama on sunday november thirtieth attorney richard cobb. A euro who was representing susan atkins in the gary. Hinman murder trial paid eight the prosecutor of visit. He wanted to know what kind of deal might be in the offing for his client. In the tate and law bianca cases julio c told him that if susan susan agreed to be a witness for the prosecution they would let her plead guilty to second degree murder she would receive a life sentence but avoid the death penalty cub. A euro eero took that offer to his client but susan wavered he presented her with the evidence the state had turned over and discovery advise that she would likely be convicted and sentenced. It's to death. Susan said she might be willing to testify before a grand jury but not at trial against manson and other family members it appeared appeared. She had not lost faith in the man claiming to be the second coming of christ.

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"greg jacobsen" Discussed on KGO 810

KGO 810

06:51 min | 1 year ago

"greg jacobsen" Discussed on KGO 810

"These accusations if this goes you know trial in front of a judge this wall become part of the record so he's no longer on the record you can use this information which is why you're not seeing it on the floor there that was yet again one of the first cracks in the case I thought why would you tell me that from the very beginning and also showed a whole different light on will move Polanski why wasn't he more of a suspect in his wife's murder if they would page which showed that he had actually force or do something she didn't want to tell you now almost all of them you could call it being raped stock on cell so it's sort of a similar question with the LaBianca's you know we've heard the the version it was kind of a randomly chosen house you know it had to be next door to somewhere that Charles Manson and spend some time what's your take on on how that happened why they were packed yeah you know unfortunately we did not I didn't put too much of what I found out about the la Bianca case and just again for space purposes and I know that sounds a little strange because if there are critical you know it's a critical crime but what one we do have a follow up you'll find out that not all are beyond that was on a lot more debt and and a lot more complicated as personalized as was rose merry than Clinton's photos ever recorded in the fall and I got access again terribly he filed that showed not only did he is certainly a fortune but the day that he comes kill he was supposed to meet with her family and they were gonna will remove him from the board of directors of the company and he didn't show up at the meeting he went to the plate wife to see that and and daughter to see their son completely messes meaning and that was the same night that that he was killed because a lot of stuff that of all the on and that suggests that wasn't as random as high as one of senator seven the book was hi this is big and that's a lot longer to dictate that come from that there was no connect and that these people have never met one another I found out from two different sources that when a lot of the article is actually a customer J. C. burns added at JC wouldn't care styling salon well that is the that is the most astonishing thing are among the most astonishing things and your book is how how no one failed to see the connections between not only that those two murders but something else that it occurred days before and you know when when certainly some of the people who are familiar with the with the victims should have known that it was of Manson was a likely suspect and that it's astonishing specially Terry Melcher Dennis Wilson of the beach boys named Greg Jacobsen who was of the close on who later became a key prosecution witness on the bill now general and since that happened because they have substantial dealings with Manson and his clan we have about Terry Melcher actually had a relationship with plants in that pre dated March are posted of the martyrs lot of them when the key prosecution witness and inquire about his relationship with Manson how expensive it was was you know spring responsible one you are you know readers right you can see them in the book that got the documents in the book I've also got to websites Facebook page Instagram page if you just Google my name and the name of the political season mark scanned these documents that show what Leo signal about the truth about not tribulation shipment of family and then with help from the defense and didn't share with the world when he wrote it for well I mean if Terry Melcher met with Charles Manson after the murders occurred right meeting before is one thing but meeting after the murders occurred that's a that's pretty major and that's what injured two witnesses were all blown house from what I understand but that that information knowledge about to meet with them after the murders no one's at the Spahn ranch words which is about forty five minutes from Los Angeles also one all the way up the valley and only timer at a meeting with some outside the box wrench there you know four seven numbers that was fortunately when I confronted Jerry with others and nation are trying to find out you know what really happened and why and obviously you didn't tell me tonight at nine right now all my briefcase all those rules and similar for different law firms and then after the rate is now more with them instead of writing what was I'm supposed to be a magazine story with all this information we're talking with Tom o'neill about chaos Charles Manson the CIA and the secret history of the sixties an alternate version of the Manson murders gonna get into some details it in the next segment that you have not heard before we'll be right back and going into the break with buffalo Springfield hi I'm Judy flight so there you are it's flu season and you're over sixty five like me you're having another busy to feel like you might be forgetting something serious and you will flu shot.

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"greg jacobsen" Discussed on 710 WOR

710 WOR

04:33 min | 1 year ago

"greg jacobsen" Discussed on 710 WOR

"Allowed to be paid back from from that there was no connect and that these people I've never met one another I found out from two different sources that one a lot bianco of actually a customer J. C. burns at JC wouldn't care styling salon well that is the that is the most astonishing thing are among the most astonishing things and your book is how how no one failed to see the connections between not only that those two murders but something else that it occurred at days before and you know when when certainly some of the people who are familiar with the with the victims should have known that it was of Manson was a likely suspect and that it's astonishing yeah specially Terry bouncer turns Wilson of the beach boys and Greg Jacobsen allowance of the close on the letter the key prosecution witness something down for that now general what happened because they have substantial dealings with Manson and his clan you'll see him about Terry Melcher actually had a relationship with them and that pre date at the bar our own state of the martyrs even without the once in my life and when the key prosecution witness and he lied about his relationship with them about Spencer that was what you know as for the onus on one you ask for in a return correct you can see them in the book I've got the documents in the book I've also got to websites Facebook page Instagram page if you just Google my name and the name of the political season mark scanned these documents that show what Leo signal about the truth about monsters elation shipment of family and then with help from the defense and didn't share with with the world when he wrote a book well I mean if Terry Melcher met with Charles Manson after the murders occurred right meeting before is one thing but meeting after the murders occurred that's a that's pretty major that's one hundred two witnesses were all blown out there from what I understand but that that information now no it did not submit with them after the murders no one's Spahn ranch words which is about forty five minutes from Los Angeles also one all the way up the valley and only time run another meeting with some outside the box wrench there you know four seven numbers that was all fortunately when I confronted Jerry with others that nation are trying to find out you know what really happened and why and obviously you didn't tell me tonight at nine right now all my grandfather's rules and of so many with for different law firms and then after the rate is now more with them instead of writing what was I'm supposed to be a magazine story with all this information we're talking with Tom o'neill about chaos Charles Manson the CIA and the secret history of the sixties an alternate version of the Manson murders gonna get into some details it in the next segment that you have not heard before we'll be right back and going into the break with buffalo Springfield G. W. B. could take an hour but at five AM fifteen minutes that's the day shift verses the night and it's why if you're up right now the art wants to talk to you because you know timing is.

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"greg jacobsen" Discussed on 106.1 FM WTKK

106.1 FM WTKK

05:16 min | 1 year ago

"greg jacobsen" Discussed on 106.1 FM WTKK

"To get money out of Congress for this president they get whatever they ask for yeah and you know that the word threat that's a military term of course Elizondo's gonna use that of course it's going to be because that's an appropriate term for something in our air space or over a nuclear base that we don't know what it is is the hot style now that that would be the term that you know of the follow just could have a fiddler I get that nobody saying that they're saying a threat that's exactly what this is but it's a military mindset and and jargon it's exactly the appropriate word for things we don't know entering our air space so again it's why I'm not so quick to hop on it you know even the military in the big cover up it's I want you to first I want to know why you're keeping that secret even if it's a military keeping it I was a military wife for thirty three years both my my son's serve my youngest son is still serving in twenty nine palms and I can tell you they don't know anything like they just go to work every day these are soldiers these are people that protect us in our liberties and I don't think there's a secret keepers I think this is gone to private industry the fact that you have worked for the department of defense or with the D. O. D. and that you are out of military a wife and a military mom does that put you in the line of fire to be accused of being part of the descent plot I I have been accused of that more and the early days I think I've been around long enough and I'm pretty tenacious George I'm not afraid to breach a door our court he's a whole it's the a little little aggressive maybe to you'll get the answers that we need and I think people know I'm pretty up front and blunt I don't have a problem calling out the department of navy I've been worried that my husband would get called in to adapt I'm told that seven the book was right click hi this is the last a lot longer to be paid back and that there was no connect about these people I've never met one another I found out from two different sources that one a lot bianco is actually a customer KC burns actually it wouldn't care styling salon well that is the that is the most astonishing thing are among the most astonishing things in your book is how how no one failed to see the connections between not only that those two murders but something else that it occurred at days before and you know when when certainly some of the people who are familiar with the with the victims should have known that it was of Manson was a likely suspect and that it's astonishing wrestler Terry Melcher Dennis Wilson of the beach boys and Greg Jacobsen who learns of the close on whether the prosecution of fun circle now general incident that happened because they have substantial dealings with Manson and his clan you'll save about Terry Melcher actually had a relationship with France and that pre date at the mark are posting of the martyrs it will route one lot and when the key prosecution witness and inquire about our extensive it was the house on one you are correct you can see them in the block grant got the documents in the book I've also got to websites Facebook page Instagram page if you just Google my name and the name of the political season mark scanned these documents that show what we signal about the truth about doctors elation shipment of family and then with help from the defense and didn't share with with the world when he wrote it for well I mean if Terry Melcher met with Charles Manson after the murders occurred right meeting before is one thing but meeting after the murders occurred that's a that's pretty major that's all right two witnesses would hold one house from what I understand but that that information now knowledge about your meeting with them after the monster no one's Spahn ranch words which is about forty five minutes from Los Angeles also one all the way out the dollar another meeting with some outside the box wrench you know four seven numbers that was all fortunately when I confronted Jerry with others and nice I was trying to find out you know what really happened and why and obviously you didn't tell me tonight at nine certain of fall my grandfather's roots and as soon and let you know for different law firms and then asking the right now more with them in celebrating what was I'm supposed to be a magazine story with all this information we're talking with Tom o'neill about chaos Charles Manson the CIA and the secret history of the sixties an alternate version of the Manson murders gonna get into some details it in the next segment that that you have not heard before we'll be right back and going.

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"greg jacobsen" Discussed on KNSS

KNSS

05:31 min | 1 year ago

"greg jacobsen" Discussed on KNSS

"The one who had called the police to put the tape back but the result this Felder he had nothing to do with the case no involvement with it until three months after the murders four months after November and he could have been the one to put them back in and the reason this information became on the record later was after our two thousand six confrontation he started sending these letters to my that my first publisher penguin press writing lawsuit and he was discussing this anecdote that he had shared with me at the time off the record in these letters to the attorneys and the attorneys that my publisher told me that you know once he roughly and letters and shares it with us and and make these accusations if this goes you know trial in front of a judge this wall become part of the record so he's no longer a director you can use this information which is why you'll end up seeing them in the fall there that was the year again one of the first cracks in the case I thought why would we'll see tell me that in the very beginning and also and I was sent a whole different light on will move Polanski why wasn't he more of a suspect in his wife's murder if they would page that showed that he had actually force or do something she didn't want to zero you know we actually almost called and then you could call it great stock on cell so it's sort of a similar question with the LaBianca's you know we've heard the the version it was kind of a randomly chosen house you know it hasn't to be next door to somewhere that Charles Manson it's been some time what's your take on on how that happened why they were packed yeah you know unfortunately we didn't I didn't put too much of what I found out about the lobby on a case and just again for space purposes and I know that sounds a little strange because they're they're critical local crime but what one we do have a follow up you'll find out that not allowed beyond that was on a lot more debt and and a lot more complicated as personalized as was rose merry than Clinton's believe us ever recorded it in the box and I got access again terribly he filed that showed not only did he is certainly a fortune but the day that he comes kill he was supposed to meet with her family and they were gonna will remove him from the board of directors of the company and he didn't show up at the meeting he went to the plate whites to see that and and daughter to see their son completely messes meaning and that was the same night that that he was killed because a lot of stuff that I was involved in a on and the three GS the wasn't as randomly as one of senator about all that seven the book was right click hi this is Vicky and that's a lot longer to the tape that comes from that there was no connect and that these people have never met one another I found out from two different sources but when a lot the uncle is actually a customer KC burns after a chase sequence hair styling salon well that is the that is the most astonishing thing are among the most astonishing things and your book is how how no one failed to see the connections between not only that those two murders but something else that it occurred at days before and you know when when certainly some of the people who are familiar with the with the victims should have known that it was of Manson was a likely suspect and that it's astonishing yes Presley Terry Melcher Dennis Wilson of the beach boys and Greg Jacobsen who lives of a close on the letter the key prosecution witness on circle now general incident that happened because they have substantial dealings with Manson and his clan you'll see him about Terry Melcher actually had a relationship with France and that pre date at the mark are posting of the martyrs afterwards lot of nine nine was a key prosecution witness and inquire about his relationship with Manson how expensive it was its first dollar song one you are even our readers right you can see them in the block grant got the documents in the book I've also got to websites Facebook page Instagram page if you just Google my name and the name of the political season marked scanned these documents that show what Leo signal about the truth about now tribulations it with the family and then with help from the defense and didn't share with with the world twenty runners for well I mean if Terry Melcher met with Charles Manson after the murders occurred right meeting before is one thing but meeting after the murders occurred that's a that's pretty major that's all right two witnesses were all blown healthier foods he put on the stand but that that information now knowledge about to meet with them after the murders no one's a Spahn ranch words which is about forty five minutes from Los Angeles also one all the way out the door valid only number another meeting with some outside the box wrench there you know four seven numbers that was all fortunately.

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"greg jacobsen" Discussed on Hollywood And Crime

Hollywood And Crime

02:34 min | 2 years ago

"greg jacobsen" Discussed on Hollywood And Crime

"That offer to his client but susan wavered he presented her with the evidence the state had turned over in discovery in advised that she would likely be convicted and sentenced to death susan said she might be willing to testify before a grand jury but not at trial against manson and other family members it appeared she had not lost faith in the man claiming to be the second coming of christ sure at first talent scout greg jacobsen seems more taken with charlie's female adherence than with his music charlie picks up on and make sure ruth and more houses available time greg comes around dennis wilson has lost none of his enthusiasm for his defacto house guest and potential musical collaborator he brings charlie into audition for brother records the company's formed with the beach boys to discover new talent charlie's is not the kind of talent that might impress the team who are as irritated by his attitude and odor as they are by his lack of discipline and professionalism nobody other than dennis sees anything commercially viable in this unkempt minstrel or his rather primitive tune dennis might continue to tout his new proteges gift says poetphilosopher the wizard who is both god and the devil the other beach boys hope dennis will soon lose interest greg jacobsen also see something and charlie though it isn't exactly what charlie has hoped yes there might be some usable ability there to be cultivated by the right producer but what impresses greg most about charlie is the new societies constructing in the desert outside when new recruits sandy good discovered the spun ranch it seemed an ideal location for charlie's growing congregation and they began the process of relocating used as a western set for tv shows like bonanza and gunsmoke spawn was close enough to civilization to provide supplies but isolated enough to clear voices that might conflicted with charles to jacobs in this tiny band of nomads living freely in spontaneously in the shadow of mercantil access seems the fulfillment of a culture intent on redefining itself he approaches his friend record producer terri melchor with the idea of funding a documentary about charlie in his disciple.

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"greg jacobsen" Discussed on Hollywood And Crime

Hollywood And Crime

01:43 min | 2 years ago

"greg jacobsen" Discussed on Hollywood And Crime

"Greg jacobsen had been impressed by charlie manson though his musical gifts might still have been raw he was a charismatic figure with his own brand of philosophy the lyrics to his often spontaneously improvise songs were original even compelling the police were interested in talking to the talent scout because he had been the one to introduce manson to record producer terri melchor who owned the c l o dr property when la pd sergeant frank patchett ask jacobsen if he knew a family member named charles tex montgomery jacobsen nodded but taxes last name wasn't montgomerie it was watson on november 30th deputy d a bully olshey ran a check and discovered that a charles denton watson had been arrested in van nuys on a drug charge on april 23rd when watson's fingerprints taken at the time of his booking matched one of the leighton's found at the tate residence it was the first piece of physical evidence tying a manson family member to the murders teams of detectives were sent out to watson's former addresses with no luck in but when they checked his hometown of mckinney texas sheriff tom montgomery told them watson was living in a small apartment downtown in fact the sheriff was well acquainted with charles watson they were second cousins montgomery being a family name text sometimes used rather than sending officers to pick up the murder suspect sheriff montgomery called texas uncle maurice who picked up his nephew and delivered him to the local jail later that same sunday sorry.

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"greg jacobsen" Discussed on Young Charlie by Hollywood & Crime

Young Charlie by Hollywood & Crime

01:46 min | 2 years ago

"greg jacobsen" Discussed on Young Charlie by Hollywood & Crime

"When the grand jury reconvened on monday december eighth prosecutor bouillaud see presented witnesses who provided more evidence against charlie and the four family members responding officers described the scene at c l o drive and the discovery of a latent print matching text watson's from his april arrest gun expert ed lomax asserted that the gun handle found at the tate residents belong to a twenty two caliber bunte mind longhorn revolver joe granado of la pd scientific investigations division gave testimony on the blood evidence and the rope tied around tate and see brains knacks greg jacobsen talked about charlie's relationship with terry melchor former resident of the property street satan biker danny decarlo testified he had gone with manson to buy three strand nylon rope and had witness charlie and text taking target practice with a bunt line twenty two caliber revolver at the spawned ranch he also confirm that charlie frequently war leather thongs around his neck similar to the ones found tied around lino lobby on because rhys it was four seventeen in the afternoon when the grand jury began its deliberations it took them only twenty minutes to reach their conclusion charles manson tex watson susan atkins and linda kosabe yin were indicted on seven counts of murder and one count of conspiracy to commit murder leslie van houten who had been present only at the law bianca c was indicted on two counts of murder and one count of conspiracy to commit murder.

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"greg jacobsen" Discussed on Young Charlie by Hollywood & Crime

Young Charlie by Hollywood & Crime

02:15 min | 2 years ago

"greg jacobsen" Discussed on Young Charlie by Hollywood & Crime

"Will blessings on what life will be like two and a coming of age of charlie and it isn't only these wayward travelers who since the greatness seen him when neil young comes by the log cabin one afternoon the two of them have an impromptu jam session in young walks away impressed charlie has an amazing ability to generate lyric spontaneously young later tells a one brothers producer though nothing comes of it denison greg jacobsen keep working on terry melchor to let charlie audition terry likegreg before him seems more interested in ruth and more house than in the performers destined to be bigger than the beatles but greg has come through for charlie looking him a session in van nuys recording studio charlie walks away with some tapes to pass around to anyone willing to listen dennis thinks charlie's original tune ceased to exist something he can work with the prospect of being a beach boy collaborator peaks charlie sense of hope and expectation it it's not the solo career he's imagine but it's a step in that direction attorney richard cub a year i had cut a good deal for his client if susan atkins agree to testify before the grand jury the government would not seek the death penalty nor would her testimony be used against her any codefendants that trial cub euro had recorded her confession in played it for bouillaud see in several of the detectives on the tape susan described the to night murder spree with the same casualness is when she asked for ice cream with her dinner for the first time investigators learned that manson had not gone to see yellow drive but had sent susan tex watson patricia krenwinkle and linda kosabe in susan admitted to stabbing vojtech rakowski but claimed it was in selfdefense when it came to sharon tate her story had changed from what she told cellmates ronnie howard in virginia graham now it was tex watson who'd stabbed the pregnant sharon while suzy.

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"greg jacobsen" Discussed on Young Charlie by Hollywood & Crime

Young Charlie by Hollywood & Crime

02:01 min | 2 years ago

"greg jacobsen" Discussed on Young Charlie by Hollywood & Crime

"At first talent scout greg jacobsen seems more taken with charlie's female adherence than with his music charlie picks up on and make sure ruth and more houses available any time greg comes around dennis wilson has lost none of his enthusiasm for his defacto house guest and potential musical collaborator he brings charlie into audition for brother records the companies formed with the beach boys to discover new talent but charlie's is not the kind of talent that might impress the team who are as irritated by his attitude and odor as they are by his lack of discipline and professionalism nobody other than dennis sees anything commercially viable in this unkempt minstrial or his rather primitive tune pse dennis might continue to tout his new proteges gift says poetphilosopher the wizard who is both god and the devil the other beach boys hope dennis will soon lose interest greg jacobs also see something and charlie though it isn't exactly what charlie has hoped yes there might be some musical ability bear to be cultivated by the right producer but what impresses greg most about charlie is the new societies constructing in the desert outside when new recruits sandy good discovered the spun ranch it seemed an ideal location for charlie's growing congregation in they began the process of relocating used as a western set for tv shows like bonanza and gunsmoke spun was close enough to civilization to provide supplies but isolated enough to clear of voices that might conflict with charles two jacobsen this tiny band of nomads living freely in spontaneously in the shadow of mercantil access seems the fulfillment of a culture intent on redefining itself the approaches his friend record producer terri melchor with the idea of funding a documentary about charlie in his disciple.

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"greg jacobsen" Discussed on Young Charlie by Hollywood & Crime

Young Charlie by Hollywood & Crime

01:43 min | 2 years ago

"greg jacobsen" Discussed on Young Charlie by Hollywood & Crime

"Greg jacobsen had been impressed by charlie manson though his musical gifts might still have been raw he was a charismatic figure with his own brand of philosophy the lyrics to his often spontaneously improvise songs were original even compelling the police were interested in talking to the talent scout because he had been the one to introduce manson to record producer terri melchor who owned the c l o dr property when la pd sergeant frank patch it asked jacobsen if he knew a family member named charles tex montgomery jacobsen nodded but taxes last name wasn't montgomerie it was watson on november 30th deputy de a bully olshey ran a check and discovered that a charles and denton watson had been arrested in van nuys on a drug charge on april 23rd when watson's fingerprints taken at the time of his booking matched one of the leighton's found at the tate residence it was the first piece of physical evidence tying a manson family member to the murders teams of detectives were sent out to watson's former addresses with no luck in but when they checked his hometown of mckinney texas sheriff tom montgomery told them watson was living in a small apartment downtown in fact the sheriff was well acquainted with charles watson they were second cousins montgomery being a family name tech sometimes used rather than sending officers to pick up the murder suspect sheriff montgomery called texas uncle maurice who picked up his nephew and delivered him to the local jail later that same sunday sorry.

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"greg jacobsen" Discussed on You Must Remember Manson

You Must Remember Manson

03:39 min | 2 years ago

"greg jacobsen" Discussed on You Must Remember Manson

"Room. Bouillaud see started to get worried that his whole case could live or die on a young lady who was as he put it. Probably not legally insane, But crazy nonetheless. The next day in front of the grand jury, The details Susan provided were so graphic that they made at least one juror physically gag. She told a different story than the ones she had regaled her jailhouse roommate's live to the grand jury Susan said that tax had ordered her to kill Sharon Tate bites. I couldn't s- when asked if she was in the habit of doing whatever Charlie told her to do since said that she had been later. She said, I wanna do not understand that. Charlie always told us, You do what you want to do. If you do not want to do it, do not do it. But when he would asked me to do something, I felt I had to go ahead and do it because I know he would do the same thing for me. Otherwise you when asked me to do it. With that said regarding August eighth 19th sixty nine Susan testified I never recalled getting any actual instructions from Charlie other than getting a change of clothing and a knife and knows told to do exactly what tax told me to do a couple of days later after also hearing testimony from Greg Jacobsen Danny DeCarlo and Manson girls Ruth an Diane and Nancy. The grand jury issued indictments on seven counts of murder and one count of conspiracy to commit murder for Charles Manson. Charles Watson, Susan Atkins, Linda Kosabe yin and Patricia Krenwinkle. Leslie, Van Huten was indicted on two counts of murder for her involvement in the lobby Janka killings and one count of conspiracy to commit murder. On December ninth Charles Manson was formally charged in India County and transported to the county jail in downtown Los Angeles by the. Time he arrived, a huge crowd of onlookers had gathered inside and outside. The building Manson was dressed in his Buckskins suit that had been sewn together for him by his girls underneath the head to toe wrapping of heavy chains as cameras flashed and strangers gawked Manson doesn't look angry or scared or scary. He looks cool and almost happy. Finally, he was getting the attention he for so long felt he so richly deserved. Of course, most of the media attention wasn't exactly friendly. Manson his family and their activities became a bogeyman something critics of the counter-culture could point to as undeniable proof of the evils of long hair free love psychedelic drugs and rock and roll, though Manson's attack on the establishment wasn't aligned with any kind of legitimate political point of view. It was easy enough to use them as a. Assembled to disparage legitimate student protesters and activists, who may be advocated for things in the Manson ballpark, say communal living. But for the most part, just kind of looked like him. And because so many of the attacks on Manson included wholesale attacks on hippies and other disaffected youth. A backlash started to swell. A lot of people started to wonder if Manson was an innocent man who was being persecuted for daring to live outside of conventional society.

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"greg jacobsen" Discussed on You Must Remember Manson

You Must Remember Manson

03:27 min | 2 years ago

"greg jacobsen" Discussed on You Must Remember Manson

"Meanwhile, Charlie had already lost two valuable male follow words. Brooks postion and Paul Watkins two competing commune led by a guy named Paul Crockett a Scientologist who kept his followers, busy combing the desert looking for gold. First Charlie tried to get Crockett to join his family by scaring him with details about the coming race war. But even a gold hunting Scientologist found helter-skelter a little tough to swallow. Then Charlie asked Juan Flynn to prove his loyalty by killing Crockett's. Instead Flynn proved his loyalty by running away for Manson and going to live with Crockett. The Manson family had functioned incredibly well as a commune on spawn ranch, But in death Valley almost immediately became impossible to fulfil basic needs. The food ran out fast. The acid ran out even faster and desperation. Charlie drove back to LA and bagged his old music industry connection, Greg Jacobsen for money. Greg took one look at crazy Charlie and told them he should go back to the desert. You don't belong in the city anymore. Man. Jacobsen said. When Charlie returned to death Valley, he tightened his rains. He promised anyone who left the family would be hunted down and killed. He demanded that they work harder to find the supposed a bottomless pit. One day will out looking for it. Some of the kids came across an earth-mover near the death rally National Monument. They stripped the machine for parts and set the remaining wreck on fire. This attracted the attention of Park Rangers who took note of nearby tyre tracks from a four-wheel drive vehicle, asked around and heard that people had seen a bunch of hippies in the area with a four-wheel-drive Toyota. Eventually, the Rangers were able to put it together that the car belonged to the hippies living at Barker ranch. So they paid a visit to the ranch one day. Everyone was out looking for the bottomless pit, and the car was out on one that these expeditions. But on the way back from this fruitless visit, the Rangers saw Paul Crockett Charlie Scientologists Nemesis driving around in the area. They asked Crockett if he knew anything about these hippies, who lived at Barker ranch who had a four-wheel-drive Toyota. And boy did Crockett know about those hippies. Crockett told the Rangers everything about how these hippies were acid Gobble orders, who hoarded guns and had orgies who were combing through the desert looking for a non-existent hold that would take them to an imaginary city where they thought that they could hide while black pupils at the world on fire. They believed all of this Crockett said because the guy who led them had said so, and he'd convinced them that he was something like Jesus Crockett told the Park Rangers that Charlie had bragged about killing people. Crockett told the Park Rangers. That Charlie was crazy, and it was hard to believe a lot of what he said. But when he said he had killed people, you believed him.

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