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WWHL @ Home: Goldie Hawn

Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen

24:28 min | 5 months ago

WWHL @ Home: Goldie Hawn

"Welcome to the Bravo clubhouse for the podcast edition of Watch. What happens live with me? Andy Cohen Hollywood. Icons coming on your screen and I hope. She brought her trampoline. It's much Evans. Live at home with Goldie Hawn now. Everybody welcome to watch what happens. I've at home. I'm Andy Cohen. Getting Ready for tomorrow's unofficial start of summer fittingly joined by the human embodiment of sunshine. My guest is one of Hollywood's all time greats and she's making the world a better place as the founder of the mind up program. It's our friend Goldie on my Goldie. Great to see you and Goldie you. Recently posted an instagram video of yourself joyfully jumping on a trampoline and watching gave the world a collective bounce in their step. Goldie by the way. Where is Kirk right now stairs talking to account? Oh good will let me know how that goes tonight I am paying virtual visit to Hollywood royalty so I wanNA take a peek inside the Palace. Goldie time for you to open your vault. What did you bring the show me? This is so crazy because when I try to think of it you know I was going to bring curve caused wet for something else which I tell you about but in terms of this. I'm GONNA bring this up because this is something that I literally have never held like this because I didn't pick it up and my story is. I'm actually holding it and I've never done it to give a thank you speech this because it was my first movie and I was in London working with Peter Sellers and I was thinking movie I accept it for you didn't she. She did she she did. And I didn't really over Whatever and I did not expect and I went to bed that night in London and I forgot that it was on so I didn't even know that they can refer on. I went to sleep because end up next. I got a call like three thirty in the morning and his voice came on. And you got it and I'd say I got what you said. You got the Academy Award Half Asleep. It is it is this. I'm the publicist from work. All my God therefore the first person I spoke to not long after that it was the I forgot. It was on television. So I get to hold a sweetheart on your show and I remember that sits in my closet. Why it's been your claws and you one for cactus flower. Were also nominated for private Benjamin to write. Who won that year? Sissy SPACEX TO SCREAM call. Reiner's lower yeah. Of course wow to be nominated though for a comedy yes. That's hard heart. So it really was a great thing unto itself that we could actually look at an honor on some level the difficulty of comedy and the preciseness of the of the timing and so forth and so I felt good about. We've been in win. Well I thank you for showing me that I absolutely love that. Goldies program mind up gives children tools to manage stress and developed mental fitness. Which is all something that everybody needs right now but how does Goldie give her mind to pick me up? I have a round of questions about what we can all do to feel as good as Goldie Goldie. What show are you watching right now? That's keeping you laughing. You know. That's funny you ask because I'm watching a lot of different shows and and so forth a lot of old movies. I haven't seen in some great ones amount of food and Spielberg Band right now. But last night I saw best in show and I can't tell you so good lack every minute a minute. I mean greatest. The greatest one of the things that I do believe Oracle is that knowing what we know about laughter really the science of laughter and the biology of laughter. It actually heels to win. This is a really important part of living right and why people forget that laughter is actually healthy so real healthy less. With which of your own movies will you pop on for a pick me up of now? I don't do any old movies and I don't do 'cause I don't say oh are you didn't. There's one time Kurt night actually were in bed and we were getting ready to snuggle up and the TV was on Hulu. Turn off the whatever. He had lights down but the fight of the television. That was enough but it was. It was US do on overboard to to live. This forgot about you know what we were GONNA do. And we ended up watching the movie. It was so fabulous out. It's that that was funny. Fought or guarded looking at. What does okay last question of these? Who would you sooner? Call if you needed a positively pap talk or Oliver. That's a good. They give me possibly different ways smart lady. Goldie for Senate will. It wouldn't be Memorial Day weekend without family time and grilling so. I invited one of your kids to administer the heat here with a round of tough questions for you. It's your Shady Spun. Who's The shady spawn? Send everybody do eighty spray on. What's your first question for your mom? This song to you first of all you. Call me for the positivity is yeah to straight okay. Okay first question for you. Mother is. When was the angriest that you've ever been at me because I know I mean I've got really angry with you. Got Any your hard to get angry with. But I got angry one time when you decided you were going to go drag. What's this girl at her or drivers on Sixteen? And you will fourteen ending you. I'm GonNa who is she. She's whatever whichever license you're not going as a horrible moment in my childhood Okay Shady. Spawn your second question of scale of one to ten. How would you rate the overboard remake? That is such a great question you know why can't really that question? Smart Lady Okay. And what's your. Yeah what is your least? What is your least favorite? Kate Hudson Rom Com. I'm sure there's one I didn't see that I didn't like. Did you see any of them after how to lose a guy in ten days well because we don't really watch each other stuff to be honest we don't sort of do that but okay? Last question. Shady spawn who has been your sadist gold events with crawled. He's The shady spawn. I love that title. I really do actually what who has been your worst on-screen kiss my worst on-screen kiss. Yeah I think I I know this. If you don't want to say I mean it's gotta be Woody Allen Right yeah number. He's like he closes his mouth and he's like I don't like to do open mouth kissing. It was that are you making that. I don't know says I love you. She did with our. I love you. I did this show PM. I don't remember an oakland wealth his soon within or even close mouth kissing. Go you know what this is? Why Oliver could you know? Oliver's a good Goldie story so he knows he knows this by the way. We're also grateful it watch what happens. Live that you. This was the broadcast that Goldie revealed how well Hong or son Oliver was from. Were right now. That was one thing one of the great moments of my life by the way when the doctor came out and said I needed the clamp when he was being circumcise it really helped me not continue to brought about extended. Oh that's raise want when they cut in or whatever and we just took my brain away. I'll avert thank you shady spawned. Thanks for coming and I'm GonNa Talk to you later this week. I'm going to be on your podcast. Yeah that's right can't wait you Pity well when Goldie looks back at the numerous milestones in her life and career. I'm sure she has the full range of feelings because his her character in the I live club said I'm an actress. I have all of them. So let's bring her back to a few important I with the first deep dimes club. Okay Goldie who was your first kiss. Oh my first kiss. Was this guy that went out with. I mean in high school and he parked the copper and it was by sligo creek in exempt from Maryland in your wall to DC and kissed me and I remember when he was kissing meets. I was so not in the kiss I was going. This is what it feels. This is what kissing some. It was an out of body experience right. I kiss and I can't say that I remember snead. Well you forgot you kiss Woody Allen too so. When was the first time you smoked pot? Well it was the first time you smoked pot back in the sixties now. I I didn't do well. What was the first? By the way are you are you? Do you like it now or do you like edibles. Now it's legal there. I had an edible or to say that to be honest. My experience was so scary when I'll sixty. It really was upset me to college quite awhile and less the day that happened. Because if I hadn't gone I wouldn't have been able to deal with so readily success because I started to a lot more about me and a lot more about my psychology and I was able to separate between a fan and wireless right so it was great. I have never been more frigging scared him out. Sorry I'm not a big drug person much happiness in me so much joy that I don't almost WANNA tamper with too much because Chris Award. I don't need do I to feel now and then yes of. What was the first concert you attended? I can Tina Turner. I was sixteen years old and I was in Washington. Dc drivers from the Howard theatre. I will never forget onstage at the Howard theatre imports the most amazing experience so that was the first concert. I've ever been to. Who said I love you I you Kurt? Wow I don't remember. I do remember when we call each other. Honey guy called me honey. I how would you describe your first meeting with that? Midler? Great she. She's fabulous what did you. What did you purchase with your first big Hollywood paycheck? Oh my mother's I bought my mother wall to wall carpeting. Oh that's so cute. It's really what I wanted to do. And it was attached to a different story but I just she wanted it so bad and I figured as soon as I made money I will get my mom wall to wall carpet. And that's what I did while. Goldie Nicole from New Hampshire set after all these years with Kurt. What one weird thing have you learned about him from being in quarantine weird thing? Is there something weird or interesting? You've learned about him during quarantine that you didn't already know or the you guys have learned about each other in quarantine within for forty seven years. I think I know pretty. Well no supervises year those two phrases their inner. He really was quarantined on his own in Aspen for a while because he went there to ski. Yeah you know. We had Keeton Oliver on the show recently and I was saying to them Wendy. You think you'll make a movie with your mom and they were like you know we don't Oliver was into it and I think kate was like I don't know I don't know if we could do it. Is that something that you would like to do? Do you ever think about it. We've all thought about it. You have and in every iteration we all laugh and go on my God. Can you imagine and what's interesting? Is that our grandchildren are also talented. So you're thinking what would happen. I mean all of us children and Capes to their naturalness and and we thought wouldn't it be just in our lifetime to do one movie while first of all. Let's talk about doing any movie right to do one movie with the whole family. I mean it be amazing so the answer is Kinda yes. Yeah good all right okay. So called the mentioned mind up how. How's mind helping kids? Who are stuck at home right now. During quarantine mine of has a fifteen basic things to do right and one of our children begin to understand how their brains work and every little comes from. The brain stress actually has all kinds of mitigating factors to wellbeing and for us to actually feel better in our skin to create a more optimistic point of view. Now this doesn't mean that we're looking at something unrealistically but it really gives children understanding how to regulate their emotions and Redo a brain break three times a day to the children. Now the mind up children are doing brain breaks during the day with their parents. And this is a really important thing to quiet down your brains because what happens is a brand. Go pats the Bone it takes all. You're thinking away from your prefrontal. Cortex and the sex and seven and eight year olds Intel. Tell you just how their brain works and there would gate some of that stress. What age do you start with kids? My my son is like sixteen months. So when one can I get him going were my God. Congratulations Eight. It's the best okay. It is a preschool eighth grade. Barry good well it's amazing and you're the perfect person to be to be leading us into this movement to the Zen Goldie. Josh W E mailed I loved you incurred in the first Christmas chronicles movie. Or they're going to be any naughty scenes between restaurant Mrs Claus in the Sequel Barry. Very Naughty question in the answer is no while i Mrs Claus Soaked. She's not grind naughty but she's very match and so that becomes out next fall. It'll be that going to be very good okay Before my Momento Mazal. I need to do a quick change. One set called the all right. I'm back and my heart goes out to everyone. Going through a major transition in this complete Michigan were in right now so tonight's moment of muzzle goes to class of twenty twenty. I WanNa offer you a club house. Commencement with words to live by from me and my staff when it comes to your career. Go after exactly what you want. Your Passion will fuel your success. I promise also don't microwave fish in the office. This is a lesson you do not want to learn the hard way. If you're in your relationships surround yourself with people who make you feel good and who have your best interest at heart. It's okay to outgrow people who no longer do that. Also learn how to read a room no to put the phone down if you feel like texting the axe Jones. Don't be afraid to be weird normal is overrated and often Oregon. When in doubt be kind always be listened to Dolly Parton light of a clear blue morning on loop even if you hate to cook. Learned to make one dish really. Well pay your bills on time and don't live beyond your means to. Lgbtq graduates who've been made to feel wrong or different. It does get better. I promise I really do and I say this every night on my show never drink and drive ever and always maintain your breath quotes to live by Lady Gaga. Remember that your career will never wake up and tell you that it doesn't love you anymore. Alex mccord don't take advice from the well-meaning Morons Britney Jean Spears. You want a hot body. You want a Bugatti you better work bitch and finally Rupaul says unless they pay your bills pay them bitches so mind. Congratulations Classic Twenty Twenty. And thank you Goldie. Hawn for being here. We're going on a short hiatus we're coming back. June eighth stay mindful. Everybody stay positive. Stay happy love you Goldie on those mornings when you feel like you just can't get it. Right overslept cotton. Traffic coffee spilled on your crisp white shirt. It can be hard out there but you know it will transform your morning dates killer bread. Dave's lineup of morning makers organic bread bagels and English. Muffins are here to revive your day and fix all the things and it all tastes real good. Never skip on. Vk Be a guaranteed fresh start. Visit Dave's killer bread DOT COM to learn more and look for Dave's killer bread in the bread aisle of your local grocery store. Hey everybody it's Andy. It's the after show with Goldie. Hawn George K facebook in the mid nineties. Madonna wrote a letter to her fan club saying she was working with you on the film version of Chicago. What was it like developing that movie with Madonna? And why didn't it work out long story? But what to make sure ish Madonna and I were going to do it. I was working with Harvey Weinstein on it because he was producing sh and I decided that I brought him Nick Hytner who was director and thought he'd be to direct it and then he put that Wendy Wasserstein on to it and I thought that was great. I got the script A while later and it was for a twenty three year old so I called him and I said well you know I'm not twenty-three who's Writing Mike. Part for twenty three and he said well. Actually you can't play twenty three and I said Oh. Oh Yeah I actually There's digital you can do my face commit you look twelve if you want to and dancing and singing. So that you're not going to get off that way harvey. So how else are you GonNa Job Right? And I said don't really underhanded you. Why don't you just come out and say you wanted to somebody else? But we had a pair play we got into. I met with them and the scripture so bad I told them myself I said as a producer not an actress I wouldn't touch with a tentacle. There's no there's no emotion in it there is no. You don't care for anybody and I would. I would rewrite the survivor. You turned out didn't do it. He ended up paying me which was amazing and I was able to call Harvey and say Harvey US something. I really really didn't like you but not. This isn't about the money. I said but the fact that you did be honorable for me and in in this situation. I'm thankful for that because I like you better. And that was that was at one of the stood it. It was a fantastic movie. He did the right thing. He hired the right people and I went out to him. Afterwards I sit harvey. This is a great movie and he said Goldie you got class so why relationship interesting with Harvey a really tough one. But I didn't. I didn't back down. That was something that I really not play that game there. I remember. There were also rumors that Bob. Fosse wanted to do the movie with you and Liza Minnelli in the eighties. Before he passed away. Was that ever a conversation? Yes Liza came to my house. When I was pregnant with Oliver. She came to my house and I was in bed because I was had morning sickness and she said to me gold. You've gotTA listen to this. It's GONNA be Great. We're going to do this. It's going to be a movie saucy will direct a dentist. She spent the whole movie the whole Dick of of of Chicago. I mean a did she literally everything and I thought my God. This is a crazy moment. Now I have no idea I mean for me it was like a backer. Saul shouldn't right and she aki everything out and I'm in my bed. We're really GONNA do this. Wow thank you all for hanging out with US. You love you. Thanks for listening to the PODCAST. Everybody hope you enjoyed the show. New episodes live Monday through Friday at four. Pm Eastern time. Make sure you're subscribed to have a great rusty or not.

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Goldie Hawn

Oprah’s Master Class: The Podcast

35:19 min | 1 year ago

Goldie Hawn

"Today's episode is supported by MAC powder kiss lipstick the moisture Matt lipstick of your dreams MAC powder. Lipstick is Matt reinvented. The new Matt formula is where Matt meets moisture giving you the zero shine look of a matte lipstick with instant long-term hydration and a weightless cushioning texture. The velvety soft Matt colors glide on effortlessly with a wide range of shades. That are sure to complement any skin tone, head to your nearest MAC location to meet your Matt today or shop at MacOS medic dot com. When I think Goldie Hawn, I think of laughter and is not just that infectious. Giggle of hers Goldie is a woman who's actually studied happiness America fell in love with her on the classic sixties TV show row at Martin's Laffin, she went on to appear in Hollywood hits including shampoo, private Benjamin, and the first wives club when she was just twenty four years old. She won an Oscar for her role in cactus flower. But. Acting was actually not goldies first passion. She wanted to grow up and be like her mother. She wanted to get married opened a dance school raise a family, a nice traditional life. But that did not happen her love of dance landed goal. The job performing an chorus line an agent spotted her and therefore she knew it her life took off in a whole new direction. She became a sought after actress, a producer and apocryphal force in the entertainment business. She and Kurt Russell then a couple now for nearly thirty years and her children Kate Oliver and Wyatt have followed their mother's footsteps into show business as Goldie said her life's intention was to be happy. And how she continues to live that intention is something we can older in from. Everybody has a story. And there's something to be learned from every experience. Use your life as a class. This is masterclass with Goldie Hawn. I grew up on a dead end street into come apart Maryland where we knew everybody on the block and anybody who drove in with like a big event. Somebody's on our street who is it. So I lived in grew up in a very simple way. I grew up in half a house, meaning a duplex. To me was the biggest house in the world. I had a backyard and lots of friends, and I lived a really kind of normals simple life. My dad was a very eccentric musician. Very funny. He was incredibly creative. He would find things on the street, and he would create things out of them. He said, look what I made I made a cabinet out of these things that people just threw away. So he was kind of a scavenger. My mother ran dancing schools, and it was the dancing school that I went to. So she took me in to the dancing school that she was running. And I was three years old when I took my first ballet class dancing was the most extraordinary experience of my life. I didn't know it was going to be. I just knew that it was part of my life because identifed three times a week from the age of three it was just incorporated into my life after school recitals performances. It was the very thing that I knew I was going to do when I grew up. And my mother knew that I was gonna do. And my dad knew so, you know, I bring home a c in school, but they weren't too worried about it because they knew basically what my vocation was going to be early on being a child. We're so literal. I was in third grade. And I had a third grade teacher MRs Toomey, and we're doing talent show at school. I was gonna just dance an Arabic and jump in. So Jay and twirl. And I didn't know what I was gonna do. I just dance, you know. It's like I had no routine. Mrs Toomey said now boys and girls, I want everybody to be perfect. And I looked at her. And I went oh, MRs to Toomey. I'm not perfect. Then my brain just went into overdrive. I just lost it. I went. I'm never doing the show. I'm not doing this show is not going to happen. So mom comes up. And she said what is wrong with you? I said mom, I'm not perfect. And my mother said to me. Well, what do you mean? Perfect. I said MRs Toomey said that I had to be perfect and I'm not perfect which point MRs Toomey came in. And then my mother said to her basically, what the hell you talking about. You have to be Burg. We can't tell our children. They have to be perfect because you know, what? Nothing's perfect. And I remember I got up on stage. I was so nervous because I still had this idea. That perfection was something that I had to achieve, but when he played the music, I forgot everything and I danced, and I had the best time. And my mother was sitting out there. Giving me them's out, and I knew that I could fly to the beat tone. What I heard of my own drum, and I wanted to feel the expression of the music freely unencumbered, and I looked down and misses Toomey was sobbing. She was solving. She was crying even today. I don't like anything perfect. I don't like again at sort of being encaged with a concept, which is like perfect hair or perfect this or a perfect speech or a perfect thing. Living in fear of not being perfect is something that actually can do stabilize us and a narrow our scope of life experience. The idea that we walk around with the idea of perfection nothing is perfect. Third grade is not being perfect and what I learned from that. And then sixth grade was a life changer. They told us that we were going to see an agricultural film. And no, I film, and I said, oh, it's going to be about, you know, farming, and whatever, and it was so cool because we got to go downstairs, and it was time. We didn't have to do math or English or whatever. And we got a break. So I went down there, and they the old sixteen millimeter and the lights went out, what came on the screen was horrific weird thing pan destruction and bombs going off and sounds in this whole thing pan, you know, mothers and blood coming out, and fathers and babies running and calling mommy, and I look at what am I looking at my entire body started to shake it said, this is what will happen when there's an enemy attack in my little world, it meant certain death. I was hit with the idea of mortality so hard. And I started shaking because clearly. Yeah. I knew I'd never grow up to Kisaburo. I would never have a family. I would never be able to fulfill a life that I had dreamed of having. Years after that every time in aired siren go off I couldn't go to school. I would find we'd have an airy drill. I'd find it. When it was. I could not go to school. I couldn't hear the sound. I would call the fire department, and I would say excuse me. Are we having an enemy attack? And they say, no or the operator I call the operator just presumed. I'd say excuse me. I'm wondering this is an enemy attack and the operator would laugh and say, no, this is the anxiety that I went through. And it was that time when I was in tremendous fear in death. And so I started reading the bible, and I started reading the psalms, and I came across Assam that I love the twenty third psalm and I loved it. And it brought me so much piece though, I walked to the valley of the shadow of death. I will fear new evil thy rod nice staff will comfort me that concept of God was so powerful for me that it really helped me sort of be in a place of safety. And I think it was the beginning of my deep connection to spirit and my deep connection to religion. Not one religion, many understanding the roots of religion understanding, the need to believe this is something that I have found is great. I guess it's the deepest part of my soul. And maybe it's where my joy comes from. My father taught me so much. We used to go fishing the other, and it was so much fun me. And my dad we aren't to the Chesapeake Bay. We lived in Maryland would go there, and whatever fishing rods, and he'd have the tackle. And I'd be doing the worms or the whatever I had to do and any shake go and want you to look out over this water. And I want you to remember something when you start feeling a little too big for your britches. I want you to feel how small we are. And how much a part of everything we are. I think it's really important that you remember it? So you always have your feet on the ground. And there's always a sense of reality around you. I never forgotten that. And what was so interesting is is that it was very prophetic because I was a young girl and little did I know that these principles of staying with your feet on the ground without having extreme. Expectations of what you believe. Or what you want to happen for you is important to be grounded and to stay focused on the present. And not inflate yourself to feel that you are truly any different than anybody else because we're not we all have gifts we all have the ability to put forth the best of ourselves in our day. That to me is what my father gave me a sense of of reality and truth and my place in the world. I never thought. I was funny. I guess I thought I was odd indifferent, and I was a performer. So I was able to perform something onstage as down-sizer. I think the the glimpse of me like going. Oh, they're laughing was my first experience when I did Romeo and Juliet, and it was like, oh my God. I can't believe I got this role of Juliet it was my very first job after high school. And I was playing Juliet is is a drama. I mean, come on Romeo and Juliet tragedy. I wanted this role so bad. So I had the intention of going out there and saying I'm gonna learn every line. I I wanna play. Juliet I was driven to play her. I worked toward I memorized everything. Cut to I'm now doing the show, and I do one thing she's impatient. With the nurse in the scene. And she puts her hand like this. Oh, well, she kinda looks up and the entire audience started to laugh, and I went oh my God, they're laughing. This is a tragedy. What did I do? I did something wrong. And yet it was the first moment where I realized that I didn't have to do much. I just looked. I guess I roll my eyes up. I body language. Whatever. What did I do to get this enormous laugh? So slowly what began to happen in terms of understanding kind of. Well, I thought it was a dramatic actress. But in terms of what towns, do I have no idea was a dancer, and it was pretty good at drama. And for some reason, I kind of made people up wonder why as things went on? I was not dancing in a chorus line. I'm dancing the Andy Griffiths special, and I am so happy. I call dad, I called mom. Can you believe this an on this show? We were in the studio. I was dancing and a man comes up to me. And he says excuse me, do you have representation I said, what do you mean? He said, we'll do have an agent, and I said, no, he said really well from the William Morris agency, and my name is art Simon. I'm rep. Scenting the show here. I'd like to see you. I thought okay, I took his card. I put it right in here in my Leotard. And I started dancing again, five six seven eight. But I'm, but I'm and I was gone. The show's over I get a phone call excuse me, waiting for you. I mean, we're just supposed to come in eleven o'clock. I thought the time was set and upper art Simon to me you William Morris, and I went oh my God. I hustled over to William Moore's I'm going. Oh my God. What is happening here sit with agents. They're all sitting at me dot God, love them. Look at me like y'all, and I'm sitting there going EL. Why am I here? And this man said I have a hunch about this girl. And I really think that something's going to happen with their and I'd like to represent her, and they all looked at me and went well, she's too old for this in too young for that. And to Bubba deep baba dump I write a Broadway number about that. And it turns out that they said whatever you wanna do. If you feel strongly about her now, my life starts to change because I'm starting to feel uncertain idolized plan. My life plan was I was going to get married. Open a dancing school and be happy. So this was my life plan. My hope for the future was very clear, and because I was very traditional and I wanna bring traditional things bribery traditional values that I figured I would dabble over here. And I'd make that happen. I can control everything right in doing. So I was so concretize d- in my dreams of having a good life, a healthy life a perfect life a storybook life. That I became depressed. I felt like I was detached detached from everything I knew I was afraid I was never going home. Again. I was starting to realize that I was moving quickly in a completely different direction. So I then saw Dr I wanted help I started to go back from the beginning to remember all of the aspects of my life with all of the fears remembering all these little things that you think just don't matter. You think oh I dealt with that all I dealt with that. And I realized that I didn't really deal with it. I didn't really go back and look at it. So in a way, I went on one side of the river, I really dove in the river. My psyche. My being my intellectualize ING my. Emotions. My uncertainty I dove in the river. I didn't find a bridge to go over. I didn't say, well, I'm gonna do couple quick therapy sessions. And then I'm going to be cool. I went for nine years was the most extraordinary experience of my life. When you talk about destiny, you talk about best laid plans, you talk about planning so far into the future that you actually don't leave room for chance or or those left or right hand turns that create an inform your life. And who you are you really an cage yourself, you you close the door on potentialities. My mom sent me a letter once and she said to me Golding, remember one thing the casting couch might be able to put you in front of a camera. But it's the people and your talent that will keep you there. So hearkening back to work ethic. Personal ethics. It'll take you long and far. It did me. I was living alone in New York was nineteen and this fellow stops me in the street. And he says, you gotta meet out Capulet, exactly. Like one of the characters at out is created. I mean, it's unbelievable. You know, he's doing this show for NBC, and you know, was going to see it, and it's gonna be on television. You'd be so great for this parliament. I'm thinking out cap was a great cartoonist. Who was like, you know, the Lil Abner. Oh my God. I gotta meet this guy. Right. So those that took me there's gotta be really nice to my civil, of course nights. Don't you? So I go up there. And I go to this big Park Avenue apartment. I never been in so much wealth. And I go up in the belt lers there. And he sits down as Mr. cap is in India. And now I waiting for Mr. cap like flies who the door is late. And I'm sitting there going what am I doing? This is so weird. I mean, I'm in this place having this edition without cap, you know, wrote this thing, and but anyway, so then he thunders to the door, and he's limping to the door, and he has I guess one lake he had. Like a wooden leg or something. I thought oh that stone. You know? Let's sad. So he's going wanna slip into something more comfortable and something went off my Brennan. Being more comfortable. Okay. Well, I guess he's going to go in and take off rain code, and you know, it was raining outside and do that. So he comes in and addressing gown, and he says down on the couch thinking, this isn't this isn't looking into good. I then told him about my background. Oh, and I told him about my white picket fence, I told him that I wanted to like Mary Jewish dentist, and that my mom and my dad, and my dad was musician, and you know, wholesome girl wholesome girl wholesome girl, not anybody like whatever because I was getting really bad vibe. Then he says, we'll read the script. So I'm reading the script this eleven or script. He said, you don't have to yell so loud, this television only suck me in right there. Oh, this is pretty like on the open up. And then he said to me, would you go over there now Goldie and would you? I just wanna see your legs. I want I'm doing this singling. This is weird. Weird. So doing as I was told being a lovely dancer that takes direction and choreography. I did. And so I lifted my skirt up just a little bit news days. No miniskirts were really in. Then I had on a sheath. It was sort of the middle of my name, which was at that point sort of. Okay. And I lifted it up he said higher, and he lifted it up he said higher, and I looked at him. And I said. Mr. cap, that's all the higher. I can go. And he said well come on over here. Goldie sit down. And which point I sat down and he opened up his dressing gown. And I looked at it. And you know, what it is? It was scary. And I I literally, oh, I said Mr. cap. I will never get a job like this. And he said to me, oh, I've had them all and I said, well, it doesn't matter. But I'll never do this. He said, well, you're never gonna get anywhere in this business. You should go home and marry a Jewish dentist. And I started crying I said, well, maybe I will. And I ran out crying. And it was really really terrible though is not a good day. Finally, the show came out years later, and I was able to send Mr. cap a telegram. I was doing laughing at the time. So I was pretty established. And I sent him back a telegram, and I said, well, congratulations. And I guess I didn't have to marry a Jewish dentist after all. Success came fast for Goldie. In fact, the first time she started in a movie cactus flower. She won an Academy Award. She was just twenty four at the time. But America had already fallen in love with her as the bubbly blonde. Funny girl on laughing. Lapin was sort of this show that came out of nowhere. I get a call my agent. My new agent said that you know, he wants George slaughter who's doing this show called laugh him wants to addition your to me you and I want. Okay. You know, that's fine. So I learned about the show up. First of all, I'm not a stand up comic. Secondly, I was not a performer in clubs or anything. I didn't do that stuff. So I didn't really know what they needed me for like what I was supposed to do. But I went into his office. And I sat and this huge red leather chair, which I always remember it's like I felt so little in this chair is chair just encompassed me. So I sat in front of him. He's what do you do? And I said, I'm a dancer. I mean, that's really who. I am. And he laughed and you went old it's enters than he has remind family about my dogs and about my thing and having this conversation with this guy was darling. I just loved him. But I'm going what the hell am I doing here? I mean, I don't have like a like a comedy routine because. I'm not really a comedian. I said, you know, I can be funny. I guess, but you know, it's not. So I don't know where I fit in in the show. But and he looked at me, and he wa- be the judge of that. And I remember walking down into the rehearsal hall NBC going the good good. Good. Good good. You know, it was shaking and we go on the set. And I am now looking cards in those days. There was no teleprompter was cards. I mean, these guys literally had a job they printed out every word we had to say, and they take them under the camera, and we'd be I'd be looking, but I'm a little dyslexic, which I later found out. So now, I'm reading the cards and so said, ladies and gentlemen, I like to introduce Dannon dick the in the in in the news. No, let me do it. Again. I'm sorry. And I started laughing and George slaughter was up in the booth said keep going, and I said what I messed up and. His. That's what I like keep going. And this is kind of the way it all started, which is a little dyslexic loving at my own stupidity. Having moved forward peeling totally ridiculous. And then having fun with it. It ended up becoming who who that little character? Was that little dummy that one that looked up during -ly there in a sense to character was born through a modicum of truth in reality. And a piece of my character, truly, it was a piece of me one thing led to the other. Yes, I'd like to meet you led to. Yes, I'll do three shows led to the beginning of an amazing career. So we never know what's going to happen. That I first experience I had making a movie, I guess, maybe. That's just the way. I am. But it just felt and maybe it's way. I was raised. Oh, great. I got a job. Oh boy. I get to work with Ingrid Bergman that is so great and Walter Matthau. And then I was nominated for an Academy Award for this movie to myself, I thought, well, it's really nice to be nominated for sure. But as all these wonderful incredible actress Maggie Smith in Bova, Goldie Hawn and cactus far. I mean to me it was just ludicrous. So I went and did another movie in London. And I was very busy. I forgot the kademi words wrong. I mean, I literally forgot I went to bed that night Ed to get up the next morning. I was working. I got a phone call in the middle of the night. And they went you got it and I'm asleep. And I went I got what? And they said you got the academy war you one. And I went. What I won. I won an Academy Award. Oh my God. I said I forgot it was on television last night. And the next day was fun and great, and congratulations and everything else and backward. It's wonderful to be given an award. But I think because of the way I was raised. My father was like, you know, don't don't get too big for your britches. Combed down slowdown. All right. Ms Goldie that's enough. That informed a lot of the way. I look at an award. It's a great thing to get looked and recognized for some of these shoot done. But it's a moment in time. Living off of those accolades in making that become the sum total in the part of your importance in life, or even your purpose in life defining who you are goes awards whenever they're wonderful. They're never going to define who you are. I define myself by my ability to give I define myself by my ability to understand I define myself by my ethics and by my truth. These are the things that inform who I am other than exterior moments that come an ebb and flow people see what they want to see during Laffin people would say to me, aren't you like the dumb blonde and working against women's liberation. And I was you know, twenty twenty one and I thought I've always felt liberated. I don't know what you mean women's liberation, and it it kind of dawned on. On me. Then that this was an issue. So years later, I do film called private Benjamin. And I was so grateful for this film and asked if I would be in it, and we decided to co produce it together. And I thought it would be this amazing experience. We went off and we made the movie, and we were we were all just as beautiful team. We had so much fun movie comes out, and it's a big honking hit. And it's one of the few hits. That woman was at the head of the above the title. And it was like, oh, my God Goldie Hawn brings in blah, blah, blah to the box office and private Benjamin. And it was like a big deal. So I was like oh my God. Then they wanted to cover of Newsweek and the big producers suddenly dumb as a FOX, and you know, Goldie from Laffin like bubble head is suddenly like in control. And you know, and Meanwhile, I produced episode it everybody else. I mean, frankly, I wasn't the only producer on the movie, but I guess being the movie star and the whatever. Ever. So I got all this hoopla around it. It changed things for me. Because I realized that there was a modicum of prejudice against suddenly it was like oh golden wants to do things her way. Osias a company of her own directors would think I don't want to deal with that. I don't want to deal with some woman in control. And I thought I e easiest person to get along with and I'm not a mogul. I'm not somebody wants to do things my way, I'm smart, I have ideas. But where did I ever get that reputation? So I wasn't really being asked to do other kinds of roles really working was sort of what I consider the really big directors. And now you're sitting in a position going God. Is this worth it? I mean, am I like losing out on things by suddenly being the big Hollywood producer? It was a double edged sword really becoming successful in that other field. I dealt with the difficulties of being a female. Basically at that time being one of the very few that was actually an active producer. Isn't it a delight to see someone who's biggest goal in life is to be happy and goldies achieve that happiness by embracing unexpected keeping her feet planet firmly on the ground and letting or true self shine? We see that every time we see her well after to fail marriages Goldie found happiness in her long term relationship with actor Kurt Russell. And when she talks about him, you can just see the joy on her face. But I think about my life, and my marriages they didn't end up all that great vows or made Meltzer broken promises are made promises are program kind of way. Life is in a way, it does happen, and eventually something might be the straw that breaks the camel's back. So I kind of was not thinking about marriage because love is love promises promises and. Devotion is part of it. What is the piece of paper have to do is it for me? Not for somebody else. I met Kurt and we fell in love, and we both agreed. Is there a reason to get married? We had kids and kids were together. We had bowl I thought. Well, there's no reason for ceremony I wake up every morning, and I really can make a choice. I don't feel trapped. I can choose to love him or not. I can choose to be there or not. And I liked I like having someone in my life that I have to be responsible to to be the best. I can be forced to he feels the same way about me. I've never met anybody with so much zest for life and Kurt. He's such a joy and a pain in the rear end. What makes horse faces as a mother you experienced different things at different times with your children? One of my favorite stories is in process any it's an old myth. It's how the seasons were actually created. And it's a story of a mother and daughter, and how the mother was everything to that daughter. The daughter looked at her and the sun rose and set on her and they had so much fun together. And the mother was powerful and the mother felt her power. And then the child becomes a teenager. The daughter says I'm going down to the underworld mom I've been called by Haiti's and he's bringing me down under. And she says don't go don't go away from me. I need you. If you go away from me, what do I have you'll take? My use with you. You'll take my joy was you. You'll take my purpose with you. I'll be weak and she went anyway because she had to become a woman, and she had to leave the clutches of her mother in order to define who she is to find out who she is to individually to become whole. And so the mother grieved, and she cried, and it was winter. And it was fall, and it was winter gin, and she created fall again and spring and summer didn't exist because of her bereavement in the loss of her child. So she made a deal with Haiti's. And she said if I can have my daughter back for half of the year, I will create summer and spring. So her daughter came back greater more formed and their relationship moved on in a different relationship. But it brought the mother great joy and spring and summer were created. Now, what this is is an example of how we as mothers have to be able to not just passed the baton, but to be able to give free rein for your daughter to grow. To make mistakes doesn't mean they're not watched. But it means that they're honored. And you watch them individually. You watch them fight you. And that's what being a mother is also witnessing just be there. You don't always have to power over and certainly in my life. Having a daughter follow in mom's footsteps is not easy. She said, hey, I'm my own person in dammit, we made sure she was I believe that. This is one of the most important things is apparent you can do which is to let go in times. So these children can formulate their own identity. You live your life. You go through ups and downs. You learn and hopefully, you grow the growth part of it is the most exciting part for me. Because when I reached the age of fifty or older, I wondered what else I was going to do with my life. I didn't think I was going to be doing acting all my life. I just thought life has had more than that. But we need to make it happen. How am I going to give back the things I've learned the the the world's I've traveled the knowledge I've acquired the understanding that I have about the death of wellbeing and understanding how we can actually feel that. And so what matters to me is giving back. So just because you get older doesn't mean things stop. It's when you stop it's when you're wonder stops. It's when your innovation stops, it's when your creativity stops and you allow yourself to go asunder, the beauty. Getting older is the surprise of what else you can do to make the world a better place with the wisdom that you've accrued over those years. I'm Oprah Winfrey. And you've been listening to masterclass the podcast. You can follow masterclass on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook, if you haven't already go to apple podcasts and subscribe rate and review this podcast. Join me next week for another masterclass podcast. All your favorite hits shows are available now with the tip of a finger. 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Introducing: 'This Is Important'

The Daily Zeitgeist

01:51 min | 4 d ago

Introducing: 'This Is Important'

"Hey guys is Adam Devine, Blake, Anderson Honors Home, and Kyle. Newest check from your favorite show workaholics and guess what we decided to do it. We pulled the trigger. We have our very own podcast called. This is important and you're gonNA listen and be like Oh Dang. This was important. This is probably the most important thing. I did all Dang Day because everything that we cover super duper important like the economy. Do you have any old pokemon cards because they are worth Ching Ching Ching. Science it's Kinda like with a gun you know with all hair it's rather be caught with than without because when you do need hair, it's super important. Sports. Guys. Played magic the gathering for four days straight. You found yourself knee deep in a booster drought rather you buy a box, you make a deck you go at it for about four days with titus boroughs and he'd come out stronger for. Health if they just had a gym that was all just breakable that you could just go in there and aggressively smashed I feel like that'd be do it's call the dump run just like go pick up people's trash and take it to the dump forum and you can just do whatever the hell you want over there. Wow. Entertainment. Per Russell rule, he's as golden right I mean if you're not against his lack of commitment, put a ring on it already did he marry Goldie Hawn? Hard hitting opinion pieces. Is the soundtrack to dazed and confused better than the. Wow that's interesting. That's a great question. So as you can see. The. You. Listen to this is important on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Introducing: 'This Is Important'

The Ron Burgundy Podcast

01:51 min | Last week

Introducing: 'This Is Important'

"Hey guys is Adam, devine? Blake Anderson Honors home, and Kyle newest check from your favorite show workaholics and guess what we decided to do it. We pulled the trigger. We have our very own podcast called. This is important and you're gonNA listen and be like Oh Dang this was important this is probably the most important thing I did all Dang Day because We cover super duper important like the economy. Do, you have any old pokemon cards because they are worth Ching Ching Ching. Science it's Kinda like with a gun you know all hair it's rather be caught with than without because when you do need hair, it's super important. Sports. Guys played magic the gathering for four days straight. You found yourself knee deep in a booster drought rather you buy a box, you make a deck you go at it for about four days with titus boroughs and he'd come out stronger for. Health if they just had a gym that was all just breakable that you could just go in there and aggressively smashed I feel like that'd be do it's call the dump run just like go pick up people's trash and take it to the dump forum and you can just do whatever the hell you want over there. Wow. Entertainment. Per Russell. Rule he's as golden right? I mean. If you're not against his lack of commitment, put a ring on it already did he marry Goldie Hawn? Come on man. Hard hitting opinion pieces. Is the soundtrack to dazed and confused better than the. Wow that's interesting. That's a great question. So as you can see. The You. Listen to this is important on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Introducing: 'This Is Important'

Elvis Duran and the Morning Show ON DEMAND

01:51 min | Last week

Introducing: 'This Is Important'

"Hey guys is Adam. Devine. Blake Anderson Honors, home and Kyle newest check from your favorite show workaholics and guess what we decided to do it. We pulled the trigger. We have our very own podcast called. This is important and you're gonNA listen and be like Oh Dang. This was important. This is probably the most important thing. I. Did all Dang Day because everything that we cover super duper important like the economy. Do, you have any old pokemon cards because they are worth Ching Ching Ching. Science. It's Kinda like with a gun you know with all hair it's rather be caught with than without because when you do need hair, it's super important. Sports. Guys played magic the gathering for four days straight. You found yourself knee deep in a booster drought rather you buy a box, you make a deck you go at it for about four days with titus boroughs and he'd come out stronger for. Health if they just had a gym that was all just breakable that you could just go in there and aggressively smashed I feel like that'd be do it's call the dump run just like go pick up people's trash and take it to the dump forum and you can just do whatever the hell you want over there. Wow. Entertainment. Per Russell rule, he's as golden right I mean if you're not against his lack of commitment, put a ring on it already did he marry Goldie Hawn? Like, come on man. Hard hitting opinion pieces. Is the soundtrack to dazed and confused better than the. Wow. That's interesting. That's a great question. So, as you can see. The. You. Listen to this is important on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Goldie Hawn  Shes Got Your Brain on Her Mind.

Clear+Vivid with Alan Alda

40:36 min | Last month

Goldie Hawn Shes Got Your Brain on Her Mind.

"This program is sponsored by the Calveley Foundation based in Los Angeles California the Connelly Foundation is dedicated to advancing science for the benefit of. Humanity. Allen older, and this is clear and vivid conversations about connecting and communicating. After all, it's hard enough being me being Goldie who has been known for all these decades as being funny and sometimes bubble headed. So you know my credits don't work too well with the with the presentation no matter what people don't know. Interest outside the camera. So I wanted to have really good research and it works like a dream. This is a simple program that has amazing results. This is my little. What do you call it gift? For children and for the world, that's Goldie Hawn of course, and the program she's talking about is called mind up. It's an ambitious project for schools with the of making kids more resilient than optimistic. In the late nineteen sixties Goldie became the signature star of the television show laugh in. And went onto make dozens of films including that wonderful movie private Benjamin. So, it may be surprised to find out that she's also the mastermind behind the deeply researched and widely adopted program to help schoolchildren, manage stress and regulate their emotions. We had a fun conversation on zoom. Goldie. This is so great that you could join me today. Thank you. I'm so happy to be here. Really really really fun to see you and to be talking to you cited, we're on zoom and I see some little person in the back on a chair who is that? As Benny. That's Banney. Benny's my boy. He's just right there. You know dogs are so loyal. What brand is he? He is a mixture of those are the best kind aren't they? The Best? They're the best kind what I. Love about the mix is that it's strong I'm among roller you. You gotta you gotTa give me the terms again what? What were you Mongrel? I come from a Jewish woman from Hungry. Presbyterian daddy from the south. Wow. Did they did they work out? Are they were pretty good pretty good. They work it out which about communication sometimes, it lacked a little bit of communication. Well I'm I'm My father has Italian heritage in my mother Irish Oh. There you go. So that's very common combination from those years. I think and it's it's a good one because actually there the Irish are very buoyant and big and can be boisterous and funny and. Smart and quick minded and the Italians those people. You're talking about buoyant that's you. How are you doing? Are you still buoyant during the pandemic? Are you managing to stay up and spirits I very much so in? Oh, that's the choice really and. When I was eleven years old I made a choice. Actually, didn't make a choice came to me because somebody said to me you know I. was a ballet dancer and that's what I did. I studied dance from three all the way up and I. I entered this industry dancing in a in a chorus and I was a professional dancer so for me I knew I kinda knew what I was going to do. Right. But I got a question once from a older person when I was eleven and they said, you know what you WanNa be when you grow up, you want to be a dancer. A movie star. That was ridiculous but I said no, I want to be happy. And literally I wanted to to to do and say, but I wanted to be. Happy. I was surprised to learn recently. That you put a pause on your career. To go to Canada. Is Right. So your son could develop as a hockey player. So I mean talk about pudding what you what you can become over what you do for a living to look for happiness instead of putting the job ahead of that, that's that's a real acting out of that idea. It is interesting. Isn't it? I? Mean you know you I think one has to really understand. What makes you happy? What are the things in life that actually make you happy that help add to your ability to feel joy? So what are they for you? It really is doing what what I wish. For instance, I want to be a mother I. I wanted to be the best mother I could be. That would make me happy I wanted to create and help nurture children of my own that actually did well and that we're happy themselves. So when I decided to move from La, it was because the love of my passion of being my mother and Carrie and a nurturer superseded a lot of things in terms of what I was doing with career keep in mind. That when a woman gets a certain age, right? That age is salt sometimes. There's a shelf life and I the question was, are you going to wait for the phone to ring? Is that what you live is going to be about or is it going to be about being proactive to do the things that you actually want to do? and. The other part of Life I. Remember I called some actresses were very well known and I we were all turning fifty and I called them and I said we're all turning fifty within two months of each other. So what else are we going to do in our life? What do you WanNa do what do you WanNa do because for me? It was like their third acts you just how you're going. To do the same thing. Your whole life is that is that what you WANNA do. So if we have a choice, what else would you rather be I said I'd love to be an archaeologist or I would like to study greater aspects of Psychology These are things that I'm interested in. So the idea of just waiting around because you're getting older and and a lot of the roles, people like that No matter what I would say also for women can be extremely limiting and I didn't want to do that I wanted to move on with my life with a proactive way of positive looking and thinking. Well, the first thing I'm GonNa do is be the best mom and Kurt. The best we could be and we took Wyatt up to Vancouver because he was a hockey player and he wanted his chance to be cut get in the NHL, and we thought well, he deserves to have his dream at least try it. And I am so grateful because in Vancouver was one of the greatest experiences of my life and also that's when I stopped. I stopped the rat race. I stopped the having to do things and I created mind up my program up there in my meditation room where I would go every morning I take my coffee I go in there and I would meditate and I remember a lot of my meditations I witnessed my thoughts and they were all about how I was going to do something good for the world. So you got the idea for doing mind up while you were made attaining it came up while I was meditating but the studies and the witnessing in the awareness of my world around me was disturbing. In other words, I was reading books on negative emotions and how they affect your life I was reading books on psychology. I was going to different conferences on the brain and neurobiology, and how are neurobiology actually affects our life. Our decision making our anger issues our ability to to basically be depressed and stay depressed. We had no no understanding of the brain enough to know that the brain is quite resilient if we actually have a conversation with it. So because we have this aspect of being able to see ourselves as they call it, Meta cognition could look at ourselves. We can witness ourselves. And we could make changes if we want because of the plasticity of the brain. So therefore I asked the question if we have all of this capability, why don't our young children know about it at an early age? Why are we keeping understanding the brain the basics of our emotional system in our brain to our children? So they then gained these tools for their toolbox for live. So I brought in neuroscientist I brought an educator's right because I. You know I knew quite a few and this was all instinctive because honestly in those days, it's almost twenty years ago out is that I decided to do this and everybody thought I was wacky because they thought you'll never get met a neuro science into a kindergarten class ever and you'll never get quote unquote meditation in because people are afraid of it. They think it has to do with religion will meditation strengthens more brain fitness it has to do with religion. So I did it I put four programs together right I you learn the brain then you do mindfulness brain break we call it. Then we do mindful of our senses and then we do our place in the world, which is positive psychology perspective taking empathy building. All of these things and so for me, it was like maybe the greatest script I ever produced really. And how does it fit into a school program? Is it Is it part of the school day? Is As take place after school? How do you? How do you reach the kids? It's embedded. First of all, we train the teachers. So the teachers take the program. Then they go into the classroom. And they create mind up in the classroom. So becomes a mind up classroom, which means that all the children understand various things about their brain. They take three brain breaks a day, not one meditation all that it's three three minute brain breaks, but they now know what's going on with their break. They know that the immaculate is quieting down they know they're breathing actually relaxes the brain in their body they know the. Function, which is the prefrontal. Cortex they know that lights up and now they're ready to learn, and so they understand sort of the pathway of creating a relaxation method and order for the brain to respond to better learning and memory and and also self regulation in their emotional construct. So it's it's it's all about that then. They do they put it into their math for instance, one of our teachers did jumping jacks from mindful movement and he was doing jumping Jacks and doing talk two times to his four. So he would do the author would all say and the kids loved it and other ways of like mindful listening we would play like a violin concerto or they would go outside and listen two birds and notice all the things that they are listening to, which actually attends to mention in the brain where children are now not necessarily being able to attend. Because our concentration, our ability to focus is much more compromised now. So it gives the brain inability to attend for a longer period of time show it's incorporated into the whole school dates like yes. So it's the ethos of the classroom is ethos to the school. Everybody is trained including administration and it's like it's it's just it's really it's almost mind up for life. You know it's a right way of preparing for your life and school is what it should be doing about how many classrooms have you been in now and these years thousands And not just in the United States I think, right right. We're Hong. Kong were in Serbia we're in We're in Finland where in UK, a lot in the UK Ireland. Canada Australia even now we have four schools in Gonda. It's a very simple program Allen it's not hard. We don't want teachers to have to think too much about it too many things. This is a simple program that has amazing results and that's what we want to keep it simple stupid I mean let's just go in there and learn these stack that ways of being and show your children how to be grateful. How do you know basically ripe a gratitude journal And because gratitude actually emits dopamine and kindness does to acts of kindness dopamine Serotonin. So now the children reported that they could make themselves happier well, that just made me so happy because that's what I wanted. I wanted to be happy in my life right and if children could actually recognize the fact that they could feel happy or sad and that in some ways that's choice and also it's okay to be sad but we don't WanNa stay in sadness we to be able to find a way to work ourselves out of it. Tell me about the research that has validated. This is it's not just two people saying we do it in the class and we think the kids look better. You've actually done randomized studies right in fact, we did our biggest study before it even went out because I knew that if it didn't have great marks and it didn't work. The worst thing I could do because after all, it's hard enough being me being Goldie who has been known for all these decades as being funny and sometimes bubble headed by the early days and. Realizing that I'm funny and in all of those different actives that I could see could have right. Doesn't necessarily say brain science it doesn't necessarily that I that I'm a schoolteacher it say that I'm a researcher So you know my credits don't work too well with the. With the presentation, no matter what gets people don't know all my interests of outside the camera So I wanted to have really good research and when we researched it, they one woman who researched at that time she said for twenty years now it's many many more years she's been researching. She's I've never seen and she researched. A lot of of SEO social unemotional programs. Anything. Like this. So she actually created a bigger. Canvas more students and decided to do another random study to see if it we were just we just couldn't believe it and it works like a dream. The children were much more. To connect in groups to work together well, and that means communication that means that they're able to getting chills on it. But that's that that's what helping them communicate with each other feel safe with each other and learn not to be not to judge store outside the circle. So I think this was a really good a good dote one that we learned, but there were so many are executive function we did with Dr Dell diamond that was a clinical study. On how well did the? Did the executive function work well, it bind up kiss worked much better. They were quicker on the answers they were more focused. In the way that they answered the questions I mean and the control group was completely all over the place and these were randomly chosen kids. Yes, exactly. That's fascinating. So This should be an every school. I'm going to go big. We have to be able to have programs that will help the mental stability of our children so they can learn. So, we can be competitive in science and math. And English. So. This is this is my little. What do you call it? gift. For children and for the world and I you know lobby Longgang but I sure hope that this is the trailblazing way of looking at education. When we come back, I have a chance to try out goldies brain break for myself. and it puts a big smile on my face after this. Program is sponsored by the Copley Foundation with a mission to advance science for the benefit of humanity. The foundation's mission does implemented internationally through a constellation of Calveley institutes that support scientists who conduct basic curiosity driven research in astrophysics, theoretical physics, Nanno, science and neuroscience, and also by the Copley prize which honors scientists for breakthroughs in these fields that transform our understanding of the very big astrophysics the very small Nano Science and the very complex neuro science. 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Could you give me a little mind break exercise now? So I I get the feeling of what it is. Yeah. So what we're going to take our brain break Okra. Oh, this is great. I have a thing I've got A. Got To chime. The reason we use a chime in the classroom is because it gives the children inability to hold on to a focal point. And what we do is we say, okay when we hit the chime. Close our eyes and I want you to listen to the chime as long as you can. And when you don't hear it anymore, just turn your hands over. And start following your breath. Follow your breath in an attempt. Will turn your hands over meaning what palms up you mean. You show that it's how you finish listening. So grey also of of gauging, you know how long they were able to listen and Ron of areas is that we've learned is that when children get used to being calm, they can hear it for a longer period of time. A lot of kids that are anxious will hit the will they'll headed and then they're just fidget in a day. They don't listen and they turned their hands over and that's it but the chime is still chiming. But then when they get more practiced they calmer, they begin to know they can listen longer and we know because we see them turn their hands over when I turn my hands over I, start paying attention to my breathing right so then you start understanding now you pay attention to your breath. And you take your nice deep breaths. Three of them. and. Let it go. Another one. In let it go. So. Here we go, and then another let it go and I tell the children we explain to them that thoughts are what happens in the brain. We think all the time. The brain things all the time. And that means that when you have a thought that comes into your brain and you think about it, just look at it. Let it go like a cloud and come back to focusing on your breathing. Okay. All right. I'm ready for the chime at. K, ready for the. Allen okay. Breath. Relax your body. Thoughts. Go and come back to you. Okay. So now we opener is. Smiling face. Smiling because they feel good. Yeah, I now is great in the kids feel good and and adults feel we feel good and that that's because we've done something really good ourselves and it's important and even those three minutes. Sometimes I don't have time to meditate. So I'll do throughout the day. I'll take five minutes and sit quietly and do do my breathing and follow my breath and relax my body into the chair and five minutes. Three times a days. Wonderful. So we don't have to be you know sitting up in whatever we don't have to appeal. Oh, we don't have to have a nice chair and relax it's not. Difficult And I think now the children know sometimes say. They think their teacher forgot their brain break. We have in preschool. So we have preschool kindergarten up to eighth grade, and there's another research project going on now where they're. They're looking at preschool and kindergarten over a five year period of having that in their class to see if it changed the trajectory of their ability to emotionally regulate and their aspect to positively in the classroom. I think in one, the research effort I think I read. that their scores went up in reading. US. And Math as interesting. So. So the ability to self regulate really enables them. To study with a clear mind. I, guess absolutely I mean it. You know it just does you know it is. It's interesting in terms of an what what we're what you're doing. You know with the university and so beautiful. Because communications everything and it really does it will. It will help even in the act of communicating because we often have reactively and oftentimes reactivity is something that will mitigate the ability to actually listen. And also to handle a situation appropriately so. Feel angry or somebody's saying something you don't agree with or any of these things oftentimes stop the ability to communicate therefore stopped the ability to reach a peaceful solution or resolution or a compromise of some kind inside of how we how we regulate and So I think that these kinds of practices are important when it comes to human relations. As you know communication is really something I'm devoting a lot of my life to in the improvisation exercises that we do, which is the not only the basis of better communication as we as we teach it. It's not only the basis of a connection that you make in an effort to communicate better it's the basis. Of the message of what how you formulate the message itself you do it through the connection. You are aware of what the other person is going through while you're talking to them, you're you're listening to them more than you're. More than you're speaking at them, you know you're right and and I was talking about listening the other day about how important it is to listen because we jump on people we don't really hear them were not really tuned into an empathetic connection to them to know that we were there. We don't know how to navigate around. The Messaging Right and that that was something that I thought about because when we act when we're in a scene, I found that the listening is more important than the acting. That's what I've found too that it is the act and to me it is the acting. There's a there's an old saying among actors that you you must've heard may use yourself is is to say. My performance is found in the other person's is, yes that's beautiful. Oh my God I mean it is so interesting I remember when I did. Private, Benjamin. And there was an the editing. The first edit was not very good and didn't have many laughs in it, and what's interesting is is that Often. Times what was the joke? Was On the other person. As we say in the is the facial expression that was the broom chink that was the drumbeat. That was, what made it funny. Not necessarily what the person was doing. It was the reaction to the person who's doing the same with drama so It's such an important lesson and I you know I can know when I'm working with someone and they're not listening to me. It's murder you have you have to start acting as if the Persians listening to. Hard to do. That's that's like putting your head rubbing your stomach because we're acting retrying trying to overcome a problem. Think. That was the basis for me and I wonder if it was for you of understanding the importance of the connection to the other actor on stage or in any any acting situation understanding how important that was for something to happen for something to. Transpire between you. And that made me understand that if we could get starting with scientists and physicians. Get them to have that same contact with the people that are trying to communicate with. Totally, changes changes the whole thing. It does change the whole thing because you know. When we talk about communication I'm looking at what you're doing here, but also what we have to do in order to. Everywhere from negotiating from countries to the various things that we want to be able to do, how do we not like fires? How do we? How do we read the other because reading the other is is actually Is Empathetic reactively it's also having levels of compression We really have to I think learn and look without judgment without judgment because there's a lot of ways that we can also mitigate our ability to get our message across because we are in judgment. And, somebody's we're not going to agree with the people that were trying to to speak with about any something of a problem or solving something right We're also someone you love I mean all of those things when we get into a relationships are doctor patient relationships or lawyer relationships with your. Put. I, mean. We talk about this thing called bedside manner. You know what bedside manner is compassion. Bedside manner is a way of learning how to put your words and your heart together not just your vocabulary. Exactly and it's listening if you don't believe you're being listen to. Your liable, not to take the medicine. The doctor prescribes you don't you don't listen back is exactly exactly. I really am loving. This conversation were getting toward the end of our time, and we we usually end our shows. which seven quick questions that invite seven quick answers and they're not gotcha questions and then that embarrassing. Here's the first one. What do you wish you really understood? Quantum physics. Oh that's great. Quantum physics you know rich I played Richard Feynman on the stage and he was in, he was a leading light in quantum physics and he said in one of his books. If you understand quantum physics, you haven't been paying attention. Drew, it's so counter intuitive. It's just it's like an endless puzzle. So. So it is fun. Okay. Number two. How do you tell somebody they have their facts wrong That may be right or wrong I. I'm not sure you know it's interesting perspective. I know that? I heard it differently but. You know it's we all see things from a different angle. So the world is flat. I would say listen here's what you do. Prove it to yourself and just keep walking. In ten years, you'll get back right back to where you started. Okay Who? Wants to strangest question. Anyone is ever asked you. That's a good one. I guess I suppose. Why haven't you ever got married? So many people are not that strange equation. The strange went to you. Okay. What's the answer to that might as well get into this because I've been married twice didn't work. So. Marriage I. Think can be more big business than it is way the wake up every morning and know that there's nothing binding you accept love. Nicely said I'm in marriage camp but that that nicely said. How do you stop a compulsive talker? Leave the room, just turn around and go now it's like listen I've got something to do. This is really interesting I have to attend to something. And it's not here. Not here. Or just say stopped talking. You. Did say that it was used could non stop talking on an airplane and that's I finally I said, could you stop talking? Please trying to rest my mind? That's one. I. Had somebody. I'd like to have a conversation that's where you talk and then talk and then you talk. That's a good one. Okay. Number five you're at a dinner party and you sitting next to someone you don't know how do you strike up a real conversation with that person? Well I start off with you know I'm I'm happy to meet you. You know and I don't have a problem I mean in in terms of striking up talking about something that may have happened. Recently talk about. You know. Various different wine conversations were drinking wine I love this wine or you a wine lover. and. Sometimes you know every now and then not often though I don't usually ask people what they do I I just don't. I. I think it's meddling and it doesn't matter because a rose by any other name would smell his sweet. So what difference does it make what you do or what your name is or anything? I just it. Just as I strike up conversations, I my mother said to me Goldie doesn't know a stranger and it's actually true. I can talk to anybody now it's like that. So I like people lot. So I don't ever have trouble striking up a conversation that's great. What gives you confidence. That's really that's a good question. What gives me confidence. Is. I guess you could say I. You know there there are things I'm confident about things I'm not confident about you know whether it's our knowledge on certain things or whatever. But by nature I'm pretty confident but I think it starts young and I think confidence happens when you're much younger and how you're reared. And because I was a dancer I think that what gives me confidence like a sense of confidence is that when my body is fit when I feel fit of body when I walk into a room, this is why when Katie was I wanted to make sure that she had ballet lessons because it is nice to walk into room with your shoulders squared off and feeling like there's some energy in there and I think that it really is you know how is it that we sort of understand how to wrap up our own internal energy are engine if you will So that's kind of where I feel confident is is not just my mind it's really also in my in my body. Last question. What Book Changed Your? Life. Yeah, the art of loving by Erich. Fromm That book changed my life. I was very anxious I. It was right on my first show. I. Didn't know what was happening to me because suddenly I was out of a dancing very quickly and into a whole new world got it was called good morning world oddly enough the show. And I was. So anxiety I was experiencing some panic attacks and things like that which is another story. But I read that book. And I felt. That I met my. My own heart and I felt very connected. To the art of loving and it was very powerful. That's great. This is such. A good conversation. I've had so much meat kill. I'm so happy we got together me too I'm so glad you could make the time. Thanks so much Goldie welcome and thank you for asking such great questions. Has Been, clear and vivid at least I. Hope So. My thanks to the sponsor of this podcast and to all of you who support show on. Patriotic. You keep clear and vivid up and running. And after we pay expenses, whatever's leftover goes to the all the Santer communicating science at Stony Brook. University. So your support is contributing to the better communication of science were very grateful. Goldie Hawn has a long list of television movie and a bunch of awards to go with them. 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And there's people like you lucky people like you that you're either actively repellent to them or they ignore you. I, think you're a lovely person Allen but but but you are talent to mosquitoes. Hierarchy in the human race where it's a whole range from people who are actively repellent or very rarely bitten and then people who are really bothered by them. You could be the most attractive person at a particular picnic and be the one attack by the mosquitoes. But then maybe the next week you play tennis with someone who is much more attractive than you are, and then you will feel like the person who's being ignored. So a really fascinating scientific problem. It's a problem Leslie bus hole in her colleagues coming up with some surprising ways to crack. And to develop new weapons to defeat humankind's deadliest enemy. Next. Time on clear and vivid. For, more details about clear and vivid and to sign up for my newsletter, please visit Alan all dot com. and. 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Ep. 134 - Anders Holm Joins

Going Deep with Chad and JT

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Ep. 134 - Anders Holm Joins

"Hey guys real. QUICK UP! Top have platform. We want to use it for good and we just WANNA firmly. Say That we stand with black lives matter we stand with George Floyd and all the other African Americans who have been abused or lost their lives at the hands of police brutality, and who have had to deal with an unfair system, and we're so proud of all the protesters out there who are fighting for more justice. proud of you. Guys are out there using your voices for good and. The changes happened, so let's keep it rolling. I totally agree with Chad I've seen. The protests have been so inspired by what I've seen. It's our job to be empathetic and I think that's what's going to get us to a better place and also to donate, so we're GONNA. Put up some links to places where you guys can donate money to try and help and push this forward, so we can all be a part of the positive change that's coming. Absolutely! Now under home. Cool let me know when I got the green light. To Go. 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Is it like an American football field or Canadian football field? Canadian is wider correct. Yeah, for sure I'm more of an American. Narrow patch that's what's up. Yeah, and then like after a while ago. You know what man hey. Let's just do this we'll do. We'll do this every six weeks to months. That I got a designated trimmer. So. That's on idols I'm real from link legit about it elected. It started like you're. You know you grow potential. Then prom comes up and he got get clean cut. You know just see what live in that natch life and then Anna. It get a futuristic with down there. I love it. Dude! Good Verbiage, DUDE! Nice. Where'd you grow up? Evanston Illinois outside. CHICAGO is good lingo there. Yeah, yeah, it's it's. Yeah for sure we have some good shit. The one that sparks! Right off. The top of my head is when we were in high school. there was a guy running for office named Dick Durbin. So like if you've got a bow, jobs call get burbs. which is. Hyper specific to the Chicago land area. I'm not sure really anybody else did that. You know and then just come the wrong the militia to. One that was. Very specifically hours, and then the shop If you saw that on workaholics, where like you do some stupid as shop on the back here next? That was something we did. At our high school middle school, and then there was a whole fucking like. Rules the like the teenage rules to it. You know it's like yeah shop and he gives you a comeback. You ten for contact. You Chop stuff in a which is like a whole other thing. but yes crazy. How kids just will like? Come up with these worlds we. We did conning where you would say something stupid bathing. Somebody else to correct you. Then when they corrected you, you went Kanju and you would act like you were taking a picture of them to commemorate their stupidity wrote right, and then my buddy Ross came up with that and then the football coaches. Pretended that they made it up and talk to the newspaper about it in the newspaper. On the coaches that it was their job, but they but the coaches probably knowingly stole that from a fucking bunch of sixteen year old geniuses right brutal by the way the coaches were probably twenty five. Registry to. See where they're coming from your like all right. They were just like young news traffic. Boys. That's true. Yeah, I didn't even play football, so that was all just on the periphery and actually I didn't even go to school anymore so. This is a weird story. This no longer your. Real personal stake in I should clarify. We also said. Like in the lunchroom, getting up, obviously someone could just make your seat right so you would have to say safe. And then it was yours and if you got up and didn't. Save say if someone could call dirties. And then when you came back, they'd be like sorry. McCall dirties. Fun, the the rule of law. got a respected, but I do still say dirty sometim some thirty nine years old. You Look Right. Yeah, thank you. GotTa keep the Lingo, too. I think that keeps you young. Keeps you young until it immediately makes you. Super Old Right. Like my dad! Who We went to my same high school. At the same time, yeah, so it was like a science experiment gone wrong. We're turning into. Movie is underneath this blanket. I can't tell you. But like? He adopted doke immediately. hilarious and he was probably you know like. Late fifties, but he was. In the car I saw the other was just don't. And like now he's seventy. Seven in a still drops though. Still says the bomb. and it fucking in works you know I'm not saying the bombing more with my dad says that he's like the sandwich was. I'm like yes. My, Dad? My Dad hangs out the younger people and I heard him say, and I went to visit them and I heard him say butthurt the other day. Wow, yeah, he was all butthurt. About. How old are you do? It is. We do like a like a wet. Adam, there, yeah. But. He came, and they're just trying to think. That's that's a that's A. that's a real deal. Want if he's holding onto that I'm stoked for him. Yeah cracked me up. You try to educate your kids on the link or you're trying to make sure that they have the right. Is I, speak accordingly you know, and then it is kind of funny. To see my kid be like. Dad Lake check out this like Lego catalogue you see this. Can I get this? Christmas on my gaze like I. Just it's so sick and I'm like. Yeah, and he says Dole says sick. I always I say off the hook off the record scale a lot and he hasn't really. Isn't sales director scale doesn't say ought to change the hook, but like. Definitely dropped sick. Oh, he says. Smoked when you beat somebody in a race and. I say. A lot for the same thing. And he said the other day and I was just like this is where. He Blazed Him Dab? Yes Do you. Let Them Watch rated R movies. No, not yet. What's I mean when I was six? I was like the youngest three kids. A kind of relate well. The oldest kid, my oldest brother only he got total recall first birthday so like that's what the kids are all going to watch you know like. I think I'd seem like Animal House enlight Robocop. In Predator. Around seven years old, probably movies. Amazing movies formative but like. Super Violence Remiss robocop. A SATIRE! I get that now, but as a kid underside. Yeah, like people are super able to blow your hands and your Dick saw whatever. But I don't Mike Is Watch already yet. Yeah, trick with Paula Hoven movies like because when you watch starship troopers when you're twelve. You're like dude. Lona bug aliens, and like really hot ladies, but then you get older and you're like. What was this about fascism not? Yeah, he's. He's the man I on it I, said total recall, too, but yeah, he's got some neat. In my parents, my mom should fargo when I was like seven. And out just White House like they talk funny. That's Hilarious I saw that the wichita apart house like. Bob What the fuck is going on. Why are you doing not weirdly slow moving to so I can't. Like. Fund. Should I be seeing? Yeah I was I was just trying to kick it on her bed and she's like art. We're GONNA WATCH SOPRANOS IN FARGO. I'm like all right. I used to watch. Beasts master a ton with my mom. Is Hair longhaired hot dude, yes, lead. He was very hot Marc Singer. I remember him yeah. And I was just like this is amazing. The do controls, animals and. What is her name? Like Tanya I think. Maybe your name was Tonya in the moment, but the actress was also. A smoke. Show! That's awesome. Yeah, I mean. I think my mom was really into erotic movies like with Fen Golly. The guy was like super seductive and I think they had a big influence on me. In terms of what it took to get like I didn't think it could be nice. 'cause I was those were not the kind of male leads. My mom was attracted to. She was attracted to like. Like she always Kevin Spacey was hot. Which is so weird now? You know. That's a complex one. She likes she like dudes who would like. Kiss hard. Yeah, she. Thinks James Spader in that the blackhead show or whatever it's called the blacklist. She thinks he's hot. She thinks he's hot in that because he's like very smart, he controls things right. Yes, also riding off of being a heart dropped from the eighties. Yeah, he's still on that way. Yeah, yeah, that's true. I mean when in the eighties real good looking uranium paying. Notes a sick movie if you've ever seen Is it called bad company. I think it's backed up. But it's basically like he plays this kind of Dorky guy gets a house in an apartment Venice, and he's got a ton of money, but he can't meet girls and then super hot dude. This is great for PODCAST A. Rob Lowe nine bad acid like helps them out of a situation in a bar and befriends him, and then kind of like walk some down this path of like getting girls, and like being a man, and then when it gets too crazy. and. He's got a kind of like. Cut Them Up as a friend ROB LOIC one string in his life, Sol's apart type thing Oh nice. Yeah, it's. It's a good movie. The eighty s were the best with those kind of movies. Like the wrong person, and they kind of just like. Inordinately, suck up your life. Yeah, that's a good genre. Like single. Alqadi heat your see that all do Lawrence Chasm movie? Yeah, everyone's set wet and their asses off and on. Your mom would have that one on for sure yeah. Mickey Rourke. That movie was definitely I. Is Mickey. It's not make work. It's William hurt. Mickey. Arsonists, Buddy. His whole yet has like a small part in it and doesn't look. Like goes. You won't do yeah. Yeah. He doesn't clear out Mickey Mark like Mumble, but it's like very compelling. Watching that recently when William hurt, he's like he shows her house and she's like not. It's not going to happen, but he said but the tension sir, and then he just throws it. Share through the fucking window. His at were fucking. This does not fly. What is happening? Yeah, but you know. It's going down. You ever see that Ray Liotta. Movie with Kurt Russell where it's like. He's like railroad as a bad cop in Kurt Russell like has like a home invasion in his his wife. Get scared, and then radio too gets obsessed with his wife. Thinks Kurt Russell's like too much of a place for. What is it called? I forget I duNno, but you're saying radioed. You're sending her. Russell all the right things. Yeah those are kind of movies. They really fucked on my head, but I really enjoyed them. Yeah, yeah, what it? Would were those the James. spader movie is bad influenced by the way. Thank you. Erin coming into like God. Yeah right up with the fire. Who are your big influences? Who are your favorite directors growing up? You know what's funny like really young. You know like. John Landis movies. Herald Ramos movies all the ones that didn't seem like. They had like such a stamp on them, but then you go back and watch down your like at such a hero grains movie such generally this movie. Frank is movies. I fucking love Frank Oz movies like house sitter. House would Goldie. Hawn now Steve Martin it's just like. Steve Martin Meets Goldie Hawn. Is there is address and he's. Built this house in like my relationships, falling apart shows won't move in with me and then golden home squats in the House and started meeting people in the small towns, saying that she's like his new. Wife and then St. Martin shows up and his parents are like we just met. Your wife's like what's going on, but then he liked play along with it. It's looking great. Me a lot of good energy rex I gotTA. Check out check out house sitter. It's just like a fun light. It really rides on. How Amazing Goldie Hawn his as just like a human like. She's a super watchable. Death becomes her. Yeah, that movies. Sick that is amazing. That's a the MEKA's movie. Who did all the back to the futures alcohol? Is Eighty is kind of your preferred decade? Will this movie's nineties. IDA Born eighty one and I did all my movie. Damage Super, Hurley, Leon and then. There was all sorts of shit in the nineties, but like. I feel like the eighties took those swings, and in the nineties was like well. This is the new and improved version of. Whatever movie you know, But yeah, other influences like all the fucking like bill. Murray Shit just. Dove in on that I'm GonNa, get you. Sucker was like a mind blower. That's Lake Keenen Ivory Wayans first movie like his brothers, a sister and then like. It's A. Spoof on blaxploitation movies. Yes, it is a joke. Every second in like the airplane style of you know naked gun type type jokes. And it's. It. Just blows your mind when you're watching your house a movie this. And worked for me is like an action movie. When I was a kid to like when I saw it as a kid I was just like this cool movie. Yeah, because the semi take a lot of the comedy whenever my head l., Nice Yeah. The tax hits the care. One Song comes on like like Jackass phases. Students seem so cool. Yeah, did you were you watching? Movies as a kid where you always interested in entertainment like you're like this is what I wanna do or did that come sorta later on? I mean in addition to like just watching TV and light kind of being raised by TV. Like SNL like super young, it was like. Phil Hartmann and Mike Myers and then like the David Spade Chris Farley era came after that you know what I mean like I feel like that era was like the most juvenile. That's ever happens in the history of SNL so like it just connects to twelve year olds watching it. And, so I dug canals. Like how do people do this? What is that job? And then my oldest brother was into theater and he did the slide comedy show at our high school. That was basically it was written by the kids directed. The kids act by the kids. and it was like a comic show. You know and. I went and saw that and I was like Holy Shit. These do are funnier than snl like these idea again. Super Young, not everything like. Connected for me like I didn't know songs, where like covers of the Beatles, where they just changed the words. Really play music restaurant up, but I was just like this is the ship and then when I got? To high school or like eighth grade that summer you had like on. The fall and start rehearsing like before school even started. if you're like a freshman, obviously so I auditioned for that and I was like. My other brother played soccer, but oldest brother did the the comedy show, so I was like well. If I get in the comedy show I'll do that if I, don't play soccer Then I got into comedy show and did that, so that was my first taste. Of. Entertaining, people you know besides like Olsen with your friends and like. me and my homey. How talk boy and we would do like. Fake Phil Donahue shows, or like say What was his name Jenny Jones, we would fade Jerry. Jones episodes Geraldo Rivera. Geraldo all those like. Crazy. Talk shows that would just have like insane guests on. And, then as I, did that, but then I quit my senior year to focus on swimming's like. Get into a Goddamn College. And then I never really did it again. I decided to start writing stuff in college, right? Swim D one I was. Do. That movie knowledge Hambro. Do Look Man when you're not in the boy watching movies, and we're not watching movies or just in the pool, looking online. Did I was a swimmer in. What was your event? Events Style Spread Freestyles Butterfly hundred. Yeah I can see that you seem like you have nice lads for the fly. There, Dan I could tell. Hard to get back into the pool. Though man tough I, try sometimes yeah. Yeah College athletes are hard on themselves. Friends used to play volleyball. We go down to the beach and they hate themselves for not being able to like spike is hard and they're like I. don't even WanNa play and I'm like they. They have a high standard for themselves and I think once they dip below it the it's it's too hard to play casually. It's tough. My Dad was a college athlete. He played football, but like. And he was like the Shit at his equally D. three, but he was like he's in the hall of fame. I D, three school, right for football and golf, and he would always take us out there. Be Light and see the suck black. Check it out I'm like all right cool dude, D. Three. and. I had never seen him like run in his life and I think it's because of that whole thing works. I can't really like do like I used to do it. I'm just not going to. But. I, Try and maintain. Some ship started running Cross it a little bit, but it turned me into this weird suck. Monster Trout, traps Kaci big yeah I got. Mad. Yet I can't lift too heavy. 'cause I get to swallow I remember. My brothers are like they're like you need to do Olympic lifts daily now. Mike Dude. I. I got to be on camera. I can't can nugget in rural. And by the way like. I didn't get like cut off. Like Swale Gi yeah. They get blocking. Yeah, it looks like it's dying. Unless like throws rocks. Chad you asked me you're like am I. Too Bulky knows a year. To tell you but I had a headland rip. Sprints Yeah Yeah. You know what I found is rowing. Oh, yeah, rowing's my Shit! I got a new role at the house now like. It works man I'm all about Bachelorette. assault back similar. For the kids so I'm just. On the Balcony Ages in a people are walking by, and they're just watching me. Yeah. Ruutel. Try and get back in the pool to I. Go to the roles. Bowl has a nice aquatic center and I go there. Alcoa fuck around with the masters team. All these old dogs or like kids fresh out of college like have their like school tattooed on their back and Shit, are you? You'll get somebody like Olympic rings on their arm in your life. Here we go. Up to, but we're doing yeah. I I love I. Love the sport. I know people like having gotten water since which just seems tragic to me. Yeah I I love the the discipline. I wasn't very good. I'm too short. Think might like A. Short, legs, but like am I coach, I think. He thought I was lazy, so it made me do the five hundred free. The anxious to punish me right. He didn't like me coach Donnelly. You're listening. You can suck it. Yeah Charge through squad, but I don't even WanNa. Do this. What's up? What's your squad good? Honestly Nah I hung out talk. Where's this prep school. Connecticut. Was the light I. Like California so just. What's up was there was a specific good school out there for swimming? Greenwich High near that. That's a prep school, but they were like we would play them water polo, and they always just dominate us. Sort of like you'd go into the game. You lack I know I'm going to get. Tossed here, but This is just to learn. Right I played water polo for a season in high school. And I just couldn't keep my cool. I don't I don't how to like I don't know how people play contact sports than just don't lose it. On me and I would just be like. I'm donkey. I'm holding the bike foul and I'm like. What are we doing here? Later, in life I, go contact. Sports are about getting away with as much as you can and not getting caught. That's the thing and I didn't understand. And there's honor and being able to measure the abuse properly. You know like there's guys who hit hard, but they're not sadists, and you have deep admiration for those people right? Yeah I would do the. Grabbed the SPEEDO. Poland back. Given that move. I mean that's that's what it is best. The move I did that, I did that. pulled a bag. It's like Oh. And I scored like my only goal. That season all I tried to do is score with backhands. Oh. Yeah, that's a nice move. You know what I mean. I was like you could do this all day, but if you're the guy who's just fobbing it, and then you go behind your back, yeah! It was fucking sick. I was no good I always enjoyed them. workaholics do the the Latte like snap Ohio I'm trying to teach my kids that they don't have enough meat on the bones, but. Much swimming I mean it's it was a real thing. I remember from being like a a young buck on the deck, and seeing older dude, stowing it and just being like. Zach the coast. Just based on like the fluidity of slapping his arm against his body and I was like. The students are G.. Yeah, what happens is the him. Agrees Explain it! It's like you obviously have no. Speedo and Shit, but you. You slap your arms. Your BICEP is loose and. Latte neo, at it claps. Before raises dislike super casually like. All right. This is probably pretty fast. That's sick. Yeah I. Do love the like. idiosyncrasies of specifics ords. Things like the fact that swimmers can do that or like the taping job on Fox irs or like the specific like basketball players, fingers, or all just not ruled because been dislocated somebody time leg catching passes. Weird I love that Shit. Yeah, a couple of my football like when a guy could throw the ball against the ground and have it bounce back up his hand like the guys who had good ball. Skills can do that and then I. Saw Random Sport, but I try to get into horse riding for a while and a lot of those dudes are missing fingers toes when they catch the CAF. Like, when when they're roping the catch the cast, and then they go to tie the rope around the bullhorn of the saddle, their fingers get stuck in there, and then when the calf yanks on it, it Jackson fingers off. Like when you meet a bunch of those guys who shake their hands on this like there, two principal digits Nusa. which kind of slows you or know? They all? Be You know he's for real? Yeah. You're like okay, dudes, their teeth back in the day like. Yeah. They just didn't get fucked up by hockey's. You just don't have to. Yeah, yeah, you see them. They used to not play with helmets and they just be waiting around. Used to not have helmets before. It's just crazy. Yeah, like an insane. The difference in the size of the to. He's still only take up like twenty percent of the space now they're like. There's only like six inches leg open window to score in. What is do I love? That's a good sport, though I. I never got. What's that? I've never gone into hockey, but I do respect it a lot, but it just. It's such on. You gotta go to like a kings game. I've been to a couple, but yeah. I gotta go to more. I like wide. It's the Shit on TV at a little hard, even though that announcers out of his mind, you just like. Calling the game crazy. It's still kinda hard to. Tell a faster moving, you know. Yet doing like twenty. When did you move to la? Oh three. Three. Was that right after college? Yeah, after summer school. I had to take like two classes to graduate or like they let me walk. And then I had to take two classes to like checks boxes. And then fucking pack up the. Drove out. With like too bad sprinklers. And a dream. Yeah! I bet you're able to use that discipline from from swimming and apply because. In La. It seems like some people. They. Come out to like achieve something, but there's not a lot of follow through, but like you guys really had a vision. Called it out. I mean obviously meeting the dudes who the game changer but when I moved out I didn't know shit like I I didn't know anybody like in the business I went on like craigslist, looking for jobs and shit. I actually worked retail at Lacoste on Rodeo drive for a few months, which was sex solid. Hello Free Year. And then like was on craigslist. Look for jobs like I think I got my first internship off of something called entertainment careers dot net. I don't know if it exists anymore I. don't even know if it was like a legit thing at the time but the thing I don't know if it was a discipline. I also coached swimming out here to but it was like I had all this fucking time. Now you know and I had all fucking energy, and I needed I this void of like. The thing that mattered in my life is gone. It's over like I'm not gonNA fucking Olympics and. I needed something I that with writing movies, and like writing and watching movies in light. Thinking about. How to make them And you earlier like a Likud. To`real influences and somebody who like. Really changed the years for me. Was Wes Anderson? Like I'd seen bottlerocket in theaters when I was young. But I was like I. Don't know seemed fucking cool I remember watching the trailer in his leg. A No trip to Cleveland and my disguise seems Rad. When saw, but then when I saw rushmore, which was way more stylized. I was like. Why is this so different like? Why why does feel different than any other movie? And then you go wes Anderson? Like the autour. Era came in. Paul Thomas Anderson Tarantino kind of art during Spang, but like you had that nineties era of like. Tours! Spike Jones and David Fincher, and all those guys hundred percent that I was dislike. This do is like. Twenty nine or some shit when he made a rushmore to six when he made bottle rocket like. It was like a young dude, so my whole thing when I got to, La was. Something like legit movie by Twenty Six. Nine Yeah? Just like in saying You didn't hit the mark, but I had. Some nibbles and like some gigs. BEF- like by the time I was twenty six. I was like something's happening. And then met the dudes out here. In like oath five or like Lehto Four, how'd you guys meet? I met adamant second city away. Which is like? Where nobody was used to be was being groundlings already better at that point than second city. You see didn't exist out in la yet. But groundlings was like the show ramblings was very went. If you like for real serious because Will Ferrell Sharyo Terry like that era of S. L. had come from there. I wasn't even going to do acting, but I had some friends. Who are like will you're funny? Why don't you go do? Second City, which is like we are back in Chicago and I was like all right. Yeah, I know what that is. Try that out to like meet people. In the business, because none of my friends were in the business, they were doing like sash legit. And then that's what I met Adam and he had. He was driving up from OCC. where he was going to Orange Coast College that tried to go pirates you know went to saddleback rival school religious college. Yeah, right ease up. And so Adam met lake and kyle who grew up together at O. C. C.. And then I was like Yo I'm a writer. All right you some stuff. Adams stand up Olympia. Actor in a fucking movie star like you seem like you're going to be one could Let's start doing some stuff together, so we I would write stuff. And then we would try and go out and pitch it and like, and we just started shooting sketches and Youtube came out. I mean the sounds like. The fucking crazy shit now like we were doing this before you to. And then when you two came out, we were like Oh. We're not doing live shows really anymore. Let's just film. It quit it up. Email to our friends in whoever else wants to watch, it can watch it. And we didn't go viral, but like we were getting thousands of hits, you know. I love a I've watched them a mail order comedy like Elyssa. The. More dudes the beer the bureau. Bring. Bring on the dudes. yeah, It's so funny! I! You guys sort of created that that. Sort of spearheaded that model of like. Put stuff out there and that SORTA. You Carve your spot in the industry or or get a show. Old We. We were like we were doers like you're saying as far as like work. Ethic, I've met some people who were like. Yeah, but writer. This idea to get down on paper and I'm like. Yes, fuck off! That's not real. Are you have actors who are like I. Don't want an agent and you're like. Okay. What the fuck are you talking about And then people who I knew just like party all the time, constantly and I'm at home like writing shit. And then they'd be like dude last night. It was a XYZ. Directors House fucking do shots with the like I'm GonNa go pitch to them on Monday and I'm like. Fuck out of money to like this like party like this. It doesn't even have a screenplay yet is written. Anything was going to go. Pitch it so this real director like my fucking. Party more. But like mean the dudes with meat. Unlike Tuesday's and pitch ideas. Thursdays we would an on Tuesday. We'd like. Pick the one me like. Thursdays we would like. Have a script that somebody wrote I would write. Somebody's idea than they go not that but this and we will punch it up and make it into something like suber dope. For the time Dope Enough and then we would film on the weekend and we would just do that every fucking we. for, years! Never went viral. See other groups go viral and be like? We do something more topical. you know like our home is a derek comedy. would crush it with like bro Rape Yes. That yeah. They, did it. OFF But then down, dirties wrote workaholics later. We'd always be like I just wanted to be you man. Just wanted to be you, yeah. Yeah! But that was fun, I mean it was like those are like the fun lean years. Where like I was at one point when we were doing stuff. I was a an assistant like production assistant in the Writers Office of Real Time With Bill Maher. In on the weekends. I would have the dudes. Like drive on to come on the lot, and we would just jam in the lake. Production trailer, and like Princeton file each nats refrigerator. Just get that like taste for oh, we're like in real trailer like on a lot like make shit up. things cool dude like those dudes as soon as I met Adam I knew he was. For real like he wanted this. And Blake and Kyle were the same way also brought like. A cool different energy, and when we're all together. Even though like. They are young three years younger than me like in school or whatever and also just kind of vibe. Than Me. We. They were like Oh. But I like what you bring and I was like why love what you guys bring. You know yeah. It seems almost like magical house. Sometimes a squad can form like that it such great chemistry just naturally. Is sometimes like. With us, we. We knew like we have like strider Joe. And, Joe's right behind the kitchen. Yeah, and even with. Even like jt I think we just like we just gelled. You know and the people that you guys have great chemistry and we're like Oh cool. Awesome. During a beer bong at a party when this dude, yet for Hose Beerbaum, one guy couldn't do it because he was on antibiotics. Hometowns. I'm San Juan, Capistrano, and now my mom lives in San. Clemente, yeah. Stood coming from the Midwest. And hearing these like names of places is just like magic. Astronaut Stran- No. It's like. I like it's so like the idea of California and my brother went to Ucla, but he's a fucking trailblazer. He's just g But like hearing about California from like. Chicago it was just like this other world. This was like before the Internet was popping off in. Everybody wore out in pans across the world and I mean. It was just an idea and I remember. A friend of mine came back. From Unaware was, but it was in California, and he came back with a t shirt. and was like. This is a place in this place in California called in and out in the of the greatest fucking cheeseburgers. And like the back of it was like the trees with like fifty seven. Chevy or whatever and was like. I'm never going to have that to hooper like it's too far. Oh Dude, that's how. I via. And I've had it. what do you think do? Some people say it's overrated when they come from out of state, but. I'll keep it real as fuck right now. I think it's very good. But like? Shoes don't do this. Don't WanNA, did it? Off. Dude. Five guys do no? I can't. I can't let you slide on that one dude dude, our logo. We sold in and out logo errands coming in our dog, he loved. He hits in out Aaron. Hayden is on your team. You know what I will say when people say. How do you feel about? The fries Aaron No? Question. He's we can't hear you. We can't hear you. Sorry absolute trash. You. Know. From? The fries the first time I had the fries I was like. Because they liked crumble in your mouth, a little bit would happen to the the now. Are there cool? If you get them well done, ask for them like well done. Look what series but like just like? I don't WanNa have to fucking do that. How `bout you just make him the crisp way. To Go. Why are they falling apartment mouth? What, but this is. What's your Go-to or WHO's? Does anybody have like a super specific murder. yeah, yet I now did you? I followed your path. She blazed the trail, so hit him with it. I just forgot the name of them. What are they called? Flying Dutchman do. Brain fire look dude. He's never even heard of it. This stone on bone. Now known I even that like this is bottom now. Think of it like this. This is a cheese, grilled cheese, but the bread is two meat patties. So you have a me. Patty may patty with two slices of cheese in between And then he gets that sauce on there, and that's a that's A. that's a rain meal. No. because. We're trying to stay lane. We're trying to look cut. Y You get it. Do you end so because I know like? Double Double. Raw onions. I'm big on the onions. Chop Chilies Oh wow. Note tomatoes. And then like the animal sauce, or whatever like to me, that's animal style is that's on the day thing or I go how you feeling. Made Him will stop. Nice did yeah I. Like I like Burger. That crunches when you bite into it with like a lettuce in the. in-n-out Burger to it's the way fits in your mouth like it it like it's like form fitted to your. It's tempurpedic. Burger for your mouth. It just slides in their kind of Nice and I. think that's disagree, experience and disagree. Thank you do appreciate that. Yeah, we! We ride wrong. He's getting more competitive is all. Competition is good dude. I think those other Burger joints. I mean I. don't see in and out ever really. Because part of what makes them so special is that they don't change what they do. It's like steelers with like three or four defense or something like that. How do it, but as you guys get a pair of those shoes, they dropped. Now they're like van. Options like the Cup design on Jag out I. got top line is I? Don't understand how you guys weren't gifted. Those we stole their logo for our PODCAST, Oh yeah. We, paint, them, is yeah. They should you guys the fuck up as the sues Sook. Dude. What was it like? Did you get to meet a lot of like luminaries on Bill Maher? Like. Were you ever getting coffee for like Salman Rushdie or something like that? Yeah. For sure him. who also come on I mean mostly like on Penn. did you ever have a good conversation like Sean Penn with going there and get fired up? Dude, you'd never like you could never really. Talk with people unless they started him right of course Rice Yup I remember walking Alec Baldwin and just fucking like. zips and then he was like you talk, and I'm like yeah. You know And fuck else. is remember seeing Ben Affleck and being like pretty tall guy. Six four yeah. I remember that episode whereas. George Bush a lion, and we keep feeding them red meat. That was take he had. I mean his as interesting. Do I think. Yeah I think he's at least got some good ideas in this brand. Yet, so it's funny to like I was a fan of the show, and I would just email. They're like production department over and over trying to get a job. There I think after like a year. They were like actually we are hiring. Come on by and I. Went in and was like. Please when it does persistence. That's awesome man. Yeah like I mean. You know when you're like fucking scrapping and clawing like I. my wife was my girlfriend at the time and she's like. Making way more money than me and was like. How long are we year? Why are we doing this I? Mean in a Mike just fucking, please. Just let's keep kicking it and make it happen. But, yeah, just by any means necessary. And then you did you ever smoke weighed with bill? Not. Smoke we him years later. When. I was at a premiere of a Seth rogan movie that he was that was like hey, and he was like. Nagai injured for you or a for you and music. Yes, of course, you're the one who got the show in stopping like. fucking remember me knows that somebody went on to like. Do a show. And there was a circle of people. He had to smoke I made him. On the show like I was the clean her like after the show in the green, room everyone would party and have fun as far as guests and whatnot friends, the guests, and then like a would other pubs get along with the Democrats after the show. When they reported, it may be kicking. They'd be kicking on. That's interesting I mean. I think there would always be like maybe somebody who got eat. It was like I'm fucking. Talk that person after the show like a lot of these pundits like the run shows all the time so much that like. Some of them are. They're cool with amid. They're fine in May they disagreed with their. Like what am I gonNA. Do take this off the air to like constantly. Ask Christopher Hitchens. I love that Guy I mean. I was there when he was there. Get, he's the man. He's fucking swagger yeah right whiter. F on that one episode. That is so tough because I'm like the biggest I love most. is like the greatest album of all time maybe and when he was like Mr Definitely can i. I don't. Know coming back in this fessing in. Most talking about like. He was kind of like in his head like there was some of the stuff. Was Conspiracy Theory Belay? You know you wanNA give him the benefit of the doubt. And then when he's like I mean all these people in Iraq or saying this. I was there I went there. I'm not like just some guy talks about a world traveler I go there my life. My Life's work is to understand these things, and then come here and tell the story yet. He was a house it to have nuclear disarmament there, and he's like because of the Treaty of two thousand and four and Curtis. And then you're like Oh, dude! It's like all right, yeah. For sure, don't want to watch. Though but Cornell was out. Doubts knows good. I know I love him. He had some Nice to save the day always. He's always like. In, like? He's the man up. Eight o'clock, my family's cheering for all the essential workers. Awesome Help out. Open my door. Oh. Let's keep it going. I love. This is going to be somebody's seven am podcast. Listen the like will. Yeah. This isn't live, okay. How are for you? How are you keeping your head on straight? During like I mean now we've come through all this chaos with corona virus now all this civil unrest in societal anger. I mean like look as far as keeping my head on straight like that. That's how you put it. 'cause like my head is staying straight like I'm not confused about anything Like everything going down. What's up, man? Amount of PODCAST facetime. Let me talk to you. Later. We close behind you, okay? Yeah Okay. 'cause door thanks guys. Still adapt. Like fourteen hit and like we, my family will just like right still we do. We got a face mask gets to. You know it's been. It's been fun, but a lot of. Time with the kids. Ably. Don't. Benefits is like I'm around my kids way more teaching math, which is. Feel bad for the kid, but like it's cool to do that. I would've. Not done that as much. And then as far as all the stuff going down like. The biggest heartbreaker! For me as finding out how many dumb asses love workaholics, and our fans of me in the dudes and don't understand the idea that black map and like? How? It doesn't take anything away from them. To say. Black lives, matter and to sink black lives matter. You know it's like. If there's a fire in California. You don't need to go. There's hurricanes in Florida. It's like they're still fires in California. If you can't like acknowledge what's going on for somebody that sucks and like. It's just a selfish thing that drives me crazy. When people are like about me, my life's tough. It's like I'm sure your life is tough. Their life was tough. Also for this very specific reason for you to acknowledge it would be huge. You know and then, but they don't WanNa do that It's tough. Man and I'm not. Somebody's looking. I'M NOT GONNA go around teaching everybody you know. I was saying this earlier of Oregon. I'm like. I'M NOT GONNA. Tell anybody to follow me because then the discourses over like. They don't know what I'm about, but if you stay following you for involved by Roquefort but. If you stay following. You'll see what I'm about, and you think you on a party with me. Be My friend then. This is how you need to think this is how you need to behave. You know right It is fucking crazy. Yeah. Just I don't know people who are. Will send me stuff about how the writers are out of Control, but never send me anything about when there's these abuses happening against black, it just feels like. They're just not seeing in both sides so. Yeah. It's. Man and you don't teach them. My kids all about this I mean. He's six and like. It's never too early to be like this. What's happening out there and then yeah, I know. What crazy like why is it? That's so unfair like ego exactly you know. The, my wife works unlike human rights for an so she's. She's on the line everyday. Ella. What is she doing exactly works for care. It's a huge. Humanitarian Organization mostly international, but they're starting to build things here in the US. And yes, she's just been a few years, but she's always done this kind of work mostly with like women's rights and that kind of thing. Announcement Raleigh with care. CARE packages comes from. This place back in the. Air Packages during. World War. To. Now. They're just like a global. Superpower of help. Tossing? I, know she. Used to like I think when I grew up. I kinda hate it when artists talked about politics. Can't you just stick to your art women now that I'm kind of in that walk of life. I'm like you do feel a responsibility to. Speak on it. Like. Yeah I mean look. I am a I'm a fucking idiot like. I'm not a smart dude. I never was I like. Some concept's just never understood in school all the stuff flag when I'm putting together like the one tweet. position fucking makes sense. Am I the guy that should be articulating this. To like. Other, dumb people like me, who I think are on the wrong side of this discussion. Or like are just GonNa eat me for Brecca's hey dumb ass. Like and then I'm not helping anybody. But. Thing I come to terms with is like. I'm, GonNa say what I would say if I wasn't in this position or not right. which is just how I feel? And there are more articulate smart people that make better statements than made. That are famous and my friends from back home. Just blast off this tweet. About like. WHOA DUDE! Can I like copy face that? Yeah! I'm not George Clooney and thank God. Thank God we have somebody like a George Clooney or Whoever else. WHO Really understands the scope of things like this. That guy but I know wrongness. I. I question workaholics with the writing Did you guys have like? You! Guys have a list of like things from your party lives or that happened in my college and stuff that you're gonna put this in the show like poop, dollar and stuff like that, so like yeah, poop dollar one thing that Adam's friends did in high school. The chop was something that happened of my high school. and yeah, there were just dislike I'm a love. I mean as you guys do here I don't shut up. In a writer's room, I love talking and getting people to talk about like their high school experience whatever like dating experience dating life. Tell me about your bad day till we want you best date like. Where can we mind stuff from your life that super specific and it in an episode, and then kind of window, dressing to like fit in or maybe ambit up a little bit to make it more exciting, but grounded in the reality that you lips, you know. Any people would always kind of bring their their stories from back home. But there wasn't like A. A, set board of we did this, but you'd. He would hear great stories of like mistakes. One of our writers was like. When we were I think he was probably fifteen he goes. We got a paintball gun. And we went to an overpass into started shooting at cars. And I. It was funny, and then like the police came with like guns drawn, and they fucking booked. It any slapped in the sewer for the night. Shit. No and then I think. Maybe that's where we got the Ninja. Turtles episode where we were like bolting and we were like there's nowhere to go. We gotta get into the list of the manhole cover climate of the second sewer and we were like. All right, so we're in sewer like a bunch of fucking Ninja turtles all right well. If. Who's what Ninja Turtle? Right? When you're that, you start having breakdown in the writer's room table. Donald Telo and I'm like in. There like. and. That's like your story for the episode. So? Yeah, hopefully, hopefully, things were organically built. Sometimes! They weren't sometimes. Somebody will come in with the dope idea that was just like. You left a voicemail. Degenerate laughs on Alice's machine. You're super hungover need to get the get to the office to delete it. Before here's A. But you're super hungover, so you need to drink in order not to pass out and get their to delete. Unlike obviously, that's not someone. Nobody did that and relax again as a device for an. It's fucking turned out to be a real. Rocket why you guys had that! I think is I say famous famous list of like I think going into season five or six. It was a list of like the things that you guys wouldn't talk about because they were hack at that point. I, mean I. I I'm like. Did you think that got much attention? Well look I'll say this. I didn't like it her. Leaked one of our writers like. Check this out and. That's fine, but like. You don't. Feel like Snobby, the did you? Did you feel like snobby? I got out there. Or something sure I mean. If you WANNA make those fucking bad hacky ass jokes that were solid gold. The first time they were said you know like I just throw up in my mouth a little bit. The first time I heard that I was. Thousand. That's the funniest thing I've ever heard. Yea were years later when you're hearing like ants, say it or like. fucking whoever you're like. That's not your joke. When you have comedy writers who are paid professionals. Who In my opinion your job is? Come up with the new fucking joke. Come up with the new throat in the mouth a little bit. Don't just say it. That's a fucking commercial. You know and we're a lot. Commercials just hijack Shit. From, people unable to say it in a commercial huge thing, but like she. We're kind of combating laziness. Yeah. Thing was like. Let's not say these If there was something we heard. That was super common. Don't put it in there like. Like I have I got a full thing going with my buddy, one of the writers now or we just text each other when we come across one. Like one recently is CUCKOO cuckoo. Don't do as. I say that as I know, but we all do Gokul. Write it down and get paid all right, right. Right. Right right right, I said. Really. Really Dumb. What's interesting the other day here? The. I, know what you mean. No and things like that. Just start getting like. People are. Passing it off as witty when they say and you're like you're not being witty, just aping things you've heard that have been like programmed into your head. Cadence of wit that that doesn't make it witty and then. You. Scream at the world when stuff like that happens you like. No, this can't be. What people think is funny. And Look. You you ever everyone can write whatever the fuck they wanna right. This was our show, and like when I would read a draft a writer that had some shit I'd be like. Can You beat that? Because that's not even yours right, or if someone would say something, I would go zach yours like if someone lit me up with some Barrio. Did you make that up that? Yours like somebody had A. They're like Oh, and then he like AC slater's the toilet right like sitting on the toilet backwards. Is that yours never like. That before I was like. As fucking good and I wish that was your your disappointed. Yeah, yeah, like one. The other day I said that my I sent him. My Buddy was. I think we're saying the same thing. which is like it just? It's in a lot of stuff now. We're like UBER arguing their like. I think we're saying the same thing when they're really. Not You know like we gotta get down there now. I know you've got a Burrito. I'm saying we need to go now I. Think we're saying the same thing like right drives me crazy. Yeah, is it? So. Is it weird for you when you run into fans and they think you're the character. Well, I mean I didn't do myself any favors by keeping my name. You know and like Like. That was nicknamed growing up and stuff. You know. Do, they always just WanNa. Get wasted with you basically. Yeah it's tough, I mean like just doing shots, shots, shots, shots, and then like at a certain point. I can't. I can't do a man like I. Know You just walked in here? You WanNa, do a shot a candidate. Look too good and you're like. I know that like our experience to start for you right now, but like. I'm here. To. Make, everybody happy I. Don't know what to tell you. Yeah you know they do get it on like getting free shots is awesome. And when you do the shot, I'm sure they're like. It's gotTA. Make their day right. Yeah, I mean my biggest nightmare is getting ice. That was something that happened like posts. My college years, and like I. Don't I'm not into it. By the way I can't wait for this to come out and everyone will be like. I guess rising. Yeah that's what I can never join a Frat dude drinking that they put you through to specific and how I drank I never could have endured like the forest drinking. That was kind of like the norm. It would have killed me Yeah I. DON'T I? I think I can drink lot. A can't drink fast though like I can give you a shot. It goes into my mouth. And then slowly goes down my throat, which is the worst way to drink? Yeah? I can't slam a beer like I just. Gag Reflex. nation just can't swallow it. And I. Just don't like the taste of alcohol. fucking milkshakes Mindanao. Asa Did you ever. Did you ever? Feel sort of like insecure. To a bar being like. People think I'm this huge party guy, but I can't party as hard as they think it can like. Did you ever have that Kinda? Yeah, I mean I guess? Like a mishandling douchebag, but there's also like the part of you that wants to like fulfill their idea. So they go dude, I saw him. We did a shot. It was exactly what I hoped it'd be. Right. Yes. Do you worry that you can't? You can't like make that dream. Come true for them. Is that makes yeah I mean now I'm super get old. Like, back in the day I go. Yeah I was fun like me and the guys would go on these leg fucking tour. Go to comic con like. A great you know, but we had each other and like in addition to that our manager. Who liked. The guys are plugging done. We'd be like, is it? I'M GONNA fucking throw pins mark. You don't get over there and tell them like were so big time because we can't elect what you big time, so you will do it for us. Yeah we're like the SAVING GRACE IS A. A bartender. Who knows what's going on and is like? Just shots at yeager and we'll bring you guys coke, and then we'll give them yeager while Nice what a legend thank you. That's gateway for everyone to be like. Bitch! I would've died. For you guys. You can find if you can like parlay that with a cool bartender. Is a game changer like the server to like. Bring it over go, so this is yours yours yours and then this is this do that that? You go like Hey Hopefully. We all die tonight. Yeah! I. Don't know I'm sure you guys deal with constantly. You're in the second. I'd hurricane right now I. Guess that's all part. We're the party breath so. It's a that. We've been branded that by. Other people but. Yet is. Brothers. Yeah Breezy your trying to figure out how we can make that happen, but it's like sciences limited. there. Their will get there someday. What's in your? Guys hate the most or at least what was the thing that comes your way, the most you're. Like. Jameson shots now. It's probably when people come up to me and like say. This sounds so like virtuous on my part, but like when people come up to me and they say like kind of. Enjoy it because I'm a party. Bro, like come up to me, be like! I don't even know this. Like would you rather fuck chicks pitcher? Ask Mike Bro I just met you this. Is this the kind of energy. You're bringing to light strangers unlike you gotta like. I'm like it's just it's. Eighty? Don't know what to say because you don't want to be like. Hey, dude chill, so you're just like. I'm good dude. The fuck, the weird thing is like. In Like A. Adams really good at this. Like the Jujitsu of taking their energy and moving. You know what I mean I guess. That's like you like. They come to like kissed. And you just go neither show. That's crazy. Energy we go. Quiz not ever heard you know. He didn't answer it, but like he's yelling back. Working. Smart Yeah they had to experience in. Judo, To. I think. Add of did that me I met him one time like. At the IMPROV and I was like super nervous. 'cause we have a show their announced like time my buddy Nazzal. Ask Him to be in the show. It's a of. A Adam what's up? Hey Look David spade. Thanks. To it, did it? That's like. Genius Yeah Yeah short-circuited Conversation Yeah, but then he was really nice. House like you WanNa be on our show, and he's like I can't account this day, but in the future for sure, thank you. Shipping. I. I am David. Spade. Do I show. I'M A SON DID Yeah. Yeah, no, that's that's like a whole. That's a whole thing that nobody than like you sound like Dick for talking about, but like in this era like Instagram, and all that shit like being beholden to everyone like people didn't use to see you or be able to go actually limiting your picture for a second actually let get a different one. Actually my Homie is zero like saints into the Voice Mail you should just be like what's up. Can I get your autograph out of a pen? By. Yeah! Do, your thing way. I'm grateful stance like they're awesome. I was I was about to say that Jude's. It's cool that the best part is when someone is like cooler than you. When you meet someone, you're like Whoa, you're a fan and you're like. You're like awesome. Yeah! Ruffled a night like I get to have cooler friends because you liked video. That's that's pretty yeah. Yeah, or like the me and my dad watchers stuff together and you're like yes. Man Yeah. Oh, yeah. Someone writes. You and they're like Yo dude. Hey, I know you guys like make comedy, but like I want you to know that there's a message underneath that got to me. All Cry for twenty minutes in my car is to and it man. Yeah those Yeah, I don't. We haven't gotten to the point where it's like bombarded to like. Yeah, it's like Shows They're they're always like the nicest Bros. in? but yeah again like if they come. To my shots do that like. L. Tequila, but if it's like a bunch of Whiskey shots bucket. I can't handle it now. McConnell Alec Soft Yeah Yeah Hey. Just get! Yours, power and being. Row I. I put too much pressure. It is nice, though when you're with your friends and your like if the like we do shots like if you get shots for me and my friends I'll do one but that's great. Yeah, go pick up the TAB and that kind of way. Yeah, that's always fucking. Nice spread the wealth. Yeah, absolutely dude. Can you help us answer some questions from some listeners? Is it like. Geography questions. It's like. Site let life advice. It's like. WHO IT IS! WHO WAS THE FIRST MON now, but you know that one. You guys think they're really on the fucking. Move Come. This is an interesting one that I actually picked up anecdotally, but someone told me and they wanted to get our take on. Whether this was right or wrong. IS THAT FRATERNITY UC Berkeley? There's a long held tradition where they take all the pledging. Freshmen put them into a room with a goat and say that until one of them sucks the goat. They're not allowed to leave. typically there's about twelve to fifteen guys. After about a day or two, they only have water, and maybe pretzels one of the guys will. In a fuck, the goat to get all the guys out of the room, and then with the Frat does is they accept all the other brothers and they kick out the guy who fucked go because he wants to have a goat sucker in the FRAT. What's your opinion on that? bets first of all that's real. I think it's real yeah I. Don't know though it could be apocryphal, but that's. Passed, so let's let's say it's real okay. WHO THESE GUYS! Why do you want to be friends with these guys? Go right next door to the place where nobody's fucking goat. Pledge there. That's where they make you fucking sheep though. That's that's not bad. I. Don't know I. Mean like the, but what's the exact question about? I guess they were just. Trying to gauge the morality of the situation and decided I'd because I think what they were frustrated with was that they thought the Frat was wrong. They thought the French. The frat should accept a guy who had sex with goat because he didn't do. Sexual Desire! He did it out of You know honoring the group and. Do I will jump on the grenade biting the bullet. Yeah, like he's kind of a hero from everyone's perspective, but the goats right well or we don't know. that. This is Peter. Singer says it's okay to have sex with animals if it's mutually been if it's mutually pleasurable. You don't know how it works I. Mean I guess if you are there and they begin it. That's clean initiate. Is it wrong if they initiate I. Don't know that's. I. Really Don't know. I. Do not know I I've had that. Dolphin sometimes. I'M OUT SURFING BECAUSE I've heard they fuck humans, you know. Accorded Christie Special But I I saw some dolphins. The other day announced. It'd be a cool story. Up In you know had their way? Them Those, my honest thought aside shared. There's a youtube video that we watched about that guy who's in love with the Dolphin. And he had a sexual relationship with dolphins for like months, and it's. It's pretty eerie, because he goes into such specificity about his sexual relationship, but there's he has a. He feels very confident in his relationship, so it's Kinda. It's compelling to watch at minimum. I mean they have sex for pleasure. I think it's us in them? Don't the other animals they could stall of Newmont's and my dog has. Oak Well Shit. They went dowse. Abuse from. all right, so so do we think that we you were saying the Frat? Should just do away with the entire ritual of goat. I mean. Are we exploding traditions everywhere I think this one can go like. Don't you? GUYS WANNA. Be The like. Northstar fraternity than like is changing what frats look like? or Like does want to be the ones that are like you know what? We're doing. We're changing. We're done with all this shit. Weren't lead the way and not just be due to this shit member like, but we built a fucking house. For humanity style it's. Matter if you're still doing this shit, yeah. Yeah that that's how I I started handled. The pledge interviews in my fraternity is like. It's like a weird awesome time. You know what I mean just build on that. As opposed to. Tradition of like. This one guy tortures. This guy like a you know it just goes down the ladder in. It's like. It's like. A. It's not good way to build trust I guess. The bottom line is you're trying to make yourself. You're trying to make someone else feel bad, right? You feel better, not that yet. Feel better, but you don't feel right. Yeah. We're here as opposed to like making someone feel better, so they appreciate you. which make you feel better? Yeah I guess. That's not the language. No honors. You just nailed it them and that's the key. That's the generic. Yeah, that's the better way to live. Next time. This guy bones the goat be like hey, man, sorry i. put you through that. We're actually going to do away with that ritual you me the guy who did it and you're now. President of the FRAT also everybody thought the goat. Did you, what are they gonNA? Do kick us all out man. Yeah that you need to be strong. Or, go did. Or that happy go! It's not a poor bit you. Everyone just takes off their pants. Then you gotta wait. The go comes to you all right, right? Towards over to everybody, and then as soon as you. As soon as you fucked to go for just one stroke, you pull out your done and give it to the goat. It'll be like and I had some Human Dick I gotta get more. That goat walks out of that frat like shuffling feel good. This comes from Jeremy Hey. What's up, guys? Lord thank you for all the stoke you provide. I'm getting into weightlifting and I want to know how many sets you guys think I have to do for an individual muscle group for it to be considered a good workout. Here's what you did. You you. Buy The book American Psycho. you read that book? And then you look for the parts where he talks about Patrick Bateman workouts. You just allow those excerpts and you do that many Reps. Because he goes deep into. All of his workouts now many wraps I want to say that he does like twenty reps stuff. High Rep Count High Rep more for death rather than mass. Do still suck with birdies. Journalist Listeners Podcast I. DO I listen I? Subscribe now I do, but I can't figure out how to listen to. The Patriot doesn't make any sense to me. You gotta get the APP. I've not Abbas okay. But like. I'll let it stock up. And then like lasers and stuff. I think that he's interesting. Says all sorts of ship that I'm like. What are you talking about and then ten minutes later? They'll say something I'm like I. Love what he's talking about. He has his obsessions which sometimes they derail him too often, but he's definitely. A. Real Clear thinker I like listening to somebody who I disagree with. Sometimes it's yeah. It I like hearing a singular voice like I said I worked on Bill Maher do I think bill is right one hundred percent of the time now and I don't know why I don't WanNa tune in anybody. Who? Has A team of writers writing every sentence, he says, so. It's a fact check by. This group thing might build a some shit. Sometimes like we talking about another time to thank God. He's saying. I think that reds the same way he's interesting. Enough to me. That I forgive all the dumpster that he says to. People can do that for me. But anyway. I'm a high reps guy. Amount low reps Gye. More for me, range of motion. Don't don't be one of these guys. Right, the short shit Out. Deep Alway Let them recover. Do you do a slow slow on the way down to really tear it up. I sure do I'll do fail right out, okay? Damn Dude Lewis Style. Does every set to failure will. That's how that's how you build. You know. Let's say you know what you're doing. I'm still like. I still have shit workouts from leg. two thousand and two from swimming like wait rumour doubts. Try that again I dislike scaled back all the way to yeah! Do you. Do Mat work like like a practice where it's just like Ab. Work on the Mat. I'll be like Russian twists. Yeah, with the MED ball the kick Yeah I do I mean what with craziest for those kicks like because we did so many of them. when I was swimming. It's like muscle memory. I could just go. Forever doing those so? I like Pike ups, you know. We go out to- touch. the fucking g HD thing where you're like off the back of it, not talking about. A BIG CROSSMAN SIT A. Like contraption where you go backwards. Right, yeah. Those are fucking brutal. Yeah only needs the assault active. I love this. I'm a masochist Torture Myself. I think I think. Three to five Sansa four different exercises, a twelve reps, or whatever, but I do lower rep, sometimes I think the important thing is to get it in, but. Yeah if you do not I think you're annihilate your muscle groups. Do you think cross too I? Think the tip of the spear for humanity I've been watching all their docs that are on Hulu and Netflix. During this warranty and I'm blown away by the kind of quality of person. They got mad fraser. He rocks. I watched the Games every year it's. Believable it's unbelievable, I could people I watch sports as someone who was like. An Athlete I. I swam so noble can't relate to it or whatever, but I worked with people I swam with people who were very high level. Right? These are like. I swam Libyan's. Who put me to fucking shame when I got to the? Level by light. Their pain tolerance by there like work ethic by their mental. Like in sometimes, I can sanity whether dislike the most competitive people you've ever met. And when they lose. It's a fucking nightmare to be around them. And, then they will be like one more. Let's go walk was doing otherwise like. Sure and then when they're like signed dot. Ri! You're off the hook. You're like. Thank God loss rags after you're done, but these people. Do things that are just fucking believable as far as. The weight that they're tossing around and how many reps they're doing or how long and then jumping onto something else and working like whatever the other group is like It's crazy. I can't wait till it gets more widespread and you have dunes who've made it like the NFL for three seasons I'm still an athlete. I feel like I could do that. Yeah, because our best athletes, the high spring sports generally yeah. I always think about that with every World Cup what if we had Reggie Bush Dwayne Wade Lebron James like on our on our soccer team link. What what would that look like? Yet. I thought we would. I said something like twelve years ago I said that in twenty twenty. Four seven the next World Cup pins yet. Awfully, but I said then our. Later. We will be in the finals by twenty twenty four for the World Cup, because at that point, concussions were huge, he were getting pulled a ball like by the. By the droves. Throwing a soccer. Lee happened. Once we start seeing it in the street. The where you see other countries where kids just have soccer balls on their feet feeding. They're like walking to school with it like we have to get to that point where it's like integrated into our day to day. Because right now we've got to our. Our athletes are good. They're like physically fit compared to other countries, but we just don't have the tube everything in the world to make you the best. Right like we have the facilities, the equipment and the science and all that but dietary shifts make anybody the best But. We just don't give a fuck about soccer. which find the fact that it's exactly what some colorful all? That's not. Football is crazy similarities instead, but it's funny I kinda like it. Yeah. It's such like us. Some breezy this football. I know you guys have your football, but we've decided against the rest of the world consensus that we have our own version of football, and it's fucking bad ass. In the kick the shit out of your football players yeah. They were like football, football. I mean soccer. Yeah and you feel like Shitty. Soccer at the Oh you're talking about soccer I mean football yet football. Yeah, all right. We've got two more questions. Hey, guys faced a little bit of aggression in the lineup. It was wonder if you guys have ever had to deal with this kind of stuff and how you handle it. The story goes like this. It was about seven o'clock eastern time on a Friday I checked this report, and it says tomorrow morning three to five now I don't live in so cal three to five is relatively gangster. I go to bed that night with dreams of legit laughs and ravaging rights. Wake up the next morning. Feel like a million bucks hop in the truck in the dad drive ten miles away. Away to the local break Surf Looks Pretty Dank I paddle out on the fish ready to tear it up is pretty crowded. Usual I gotta catch my way in fact out a massive longboard drops in on. This dude did it to meet Schumer. Times. He was actually a pretty good surfer to Francesco in the boys took care of him in the pl later, but kind of a bummer should I have spoken up in this situation or just remains then ps. Do you guys intentionally follow me on Tiktok at an ox. Where was that an accident? I'm also looking for a job this summer or anything I could do for you. I don't need to be paid. Just experience would be awesome. sent from Samsung Smart Fridge three. You. GotTa Get Smart Fridges First and foremost right. That sounds cool. He sent him a smart fridge yeah. That's the shit. That's awesome. was he saying that that they they beat up the guy who's listening G. NOT PL is I'm not familiar with that link parking lot. Oh. Good Call Do. I mean that's where she goes down. No. You're a genius dude. I was I was like. I just love the. Guy And then the home is I just whooped his ass and he's like Jimmy advice remains like. Aren't you find Intra friends? BEAT HIM UP, yeah! Yeah I. Do that I would say. Outside stays ended. I mean. You know I, believe in Karma, so sounds dropping on you. That sucks, but you know what. Someone's GonNa Start Dropping on on him soon so. Yeah. Just maintain your etiquette out in the lineup in. All will be well. And you know when you're nude beach. It's always a precarious thing. You know there's people who were there who feel very confident on the waves and you kinda have to work around them. On my limited experience, but I think the thing is if you can become the best surfer out that break. One will drop it on you so I think it's always what can you control and that's how good you get to just get better and then known dropping in on you if they do, everybody will give them the area eyeball. A LOTTA! On all right last question, what's up, boys? This mainly for strider shredders, our buddy, who comes on a lot. He's a relationship guru. He has a beautiful relation. We always look to him for advice on how we can cultivate that. Lives but if he's not on Chattan, JT, I'm sure you've always got something cooking in the domes, so feel free to. Here I've been dating my girlfriend for every year I truly love her issues. We both leave for college next year and I don't know how to handle it. I can't imagine myself breaking up with her, but at the same time I. don't see it working out at all. If I can't see her, we would be a plane. Ride away, so visits would be rare. Rare? She wants to stay together one hundred percent, and if we do to stay together, I feel like I'll miss out on a lot of college experiences with girls and Shit I. Don't know what to do. My guys also have any of you. Guys had girlfriends in other schools in college. And how did that go? Thanks, boys keeps stoking. Please keep me anonymous. Has a girlfriend in another school. he has a girlfriend I think in highschool other going to separate colleges, and it seems like he's pretty keen to experience the full college single life, but she really wants to stay together and and he's not feeling like they'll be able to visit. Much colleges are super far apart. Gotcha I. Mean I think he I think he's looking for us to give him the green light. But that's what I'm seeing so far. What are you guys saying? Yeah, under feel. Yeah. So my my wife and I were together in college, and she went abroad for a year and we were like. I was like. Look. You're Braford year to be here. Do we WANNA like. Have that phone call one time where it's like. Oh, like in like four months when with the money? How much money and then it's like fucking. We're Put a pin things. In when you come back? We'll pick up where we left off unless we don't. Riding. It wasn't mandate. She came back. left off got married. The rest is. History so like. If your girlfriend from high school, what's as my wife is my my school, but she's the one. You'll make your way back to her, or she'll make her way back to you. yameen like you'll get out there and you'll meet somebody who's fucking whack as fuck. Go what is going on. Or maybe maybe aren't going to be good at being single, you know. Or maybe she'll meet somebody who fulfills her more than you do now be a tough break, but eventually that will work that anyone. Outside. Give it the old college try. A. Benefit if this right, you guys will get back together at. The next summer and go. What were we thinking? yet, your fucking clothes off I love you. Is. I don't know. You're good looking dude, you know. Did you feel less like Did you feel more confident that you are making the right choice in staying with someone that you've known from so early in your life. Because you knew you had opportunity, so it wasn't like you were like always wondering what if it was Kinda like you Kinda. You're like no, I know I know. There's other stuff out there but I'm confident in this choice. I sometimes wonder if because my friends who have had. Relationships from the longest tend to be a good looking guys who had success with that early on, and then kind of saw the writing on the wall like no. I know a good thing when I feel it, so I'm just gonNA stick with it. Now would say like I'm like. I definitely didn't have like goes. I was not like flooding, Mr Player Cool Dude. But, like I'd I'd been dating my my girlfriend wise in school. And then we went to college I went to college. I went. We stayed together. Didn't really work. And then she came to the same school coincidentally, when got together in the rejected year off. And then it was you know one of those years, and then afterwards we were like I didn't meet anybody who was fucking great. And I think that. Yeah there's those guys who like. They get hit on my girls. Get hit on. Right. So handsomer like has wider whatever so they know like? She was just chill about a man so like. She like a family. That handsome they get. They have like a fan meter where they're like. When girls come at them, fans there like. This weird, but the leg drill could be chill about I. Think they go? She's normal. They've seen praising I've never seen crazy. You know. but then I like staying together. That you just got to be ready to do the work. It's a whole nother like. Saying, you know what I mean I mean it's. Cellphones facetime and all that, but that'll be some more. Yeah, I guess. I wanted to ask you this earlier when you're like. Like when you play the kind of like love, interest in a movie or something like. Is it tough to play the part that you played in like the intern? We're kind of like unlike bull. Dude. Or like do you know when you? Read the script he like Oh. This guy is kind of like like did that read as like a guy 'cause he's not an admirable dude, right right right? Yeah! Incidents that attracts you to the partner what you think. They know I read. I read the script. It was like okay. I'm this guy. Yet Robert De. Niro's this personal in hathaway's personality a great talk. With Am. And got the part. I don't fuck like what the deal is. I don't care like the peeping Tom Neighbor. that movie right in like Nancy Meyers, like in solid, but after that there were a couple movies that were like. This guy and I pass as I was like I just did that like. The KINDA WANNA. Be Somebody that's not. That's comeback, right. and in one of those movies. They completely changed the character. So he didn't cheat on girlfriend. and. The movie was fucking awesome when I was like. A man could have just said yeah. Done the movie Attach myself to the movie. The May would have been like well. Maybe it's not right that he does that. Let's change it and then I would have been the movie so the interested in. Yeah. But yeah, as far as the movie, I was like some. And then and then you said you'd liked PTA a lot, and then I saw your inherent vice, did you? Little bit little bit. Here advice, this is weird. This is the weirdest thing in the world. Paul Thomas Anderson. Watches workaholics. Really. Like we had heard about this alert, our agent like. He was at the same agency as And he was like we'll hear some crazy Mike. What did in his home Sanderson Alex. How. How do you know this? Talk about it and I'm like this is crazy so I auditioned for the master. Didn't get. It is Jesse Plans Bart. I don't know what else I can't remember. I think he wrote saying and you'd said to do the same. Look goes all right. This is what you can do. It wasn't even in the movie he was just. He wrote like a brand new thing just to test people on it. So I could be wrong. Maybe? It was like one of the scientology style tests and I was like testing some money. But then I did another team. It wasn't that I. Don't know, but didn't get it, but Jillian was in that movie. And then he brought me back for inherent vice. Or. It, you know the casting people do. And I read this cop. They're like okay cool. Cops he's GonNa. Say the lines and you're going to be there. And I was like Oh i. don't fucking care and went straight from the holidays to Pasadena it was a Nice Ju. we pulled over like the car that had Joaquin and Martin short so like boxes checked. And a thing and the other actor. Stu Wilson. Bethel I think is. His name is on a rise up or is right now. And he said the lawns. killed, it seemed like a cop and I was just like with the flashlight, and you can see my torso through the windshield and that is it. But what rose one night shoot and then at the end. The Eighty was like. Hey of Paul's come over and say hi, is he'd been like video village the entire night. Didn't see. and he was like what's up. Man. Thanks so much for doing this. Was Awesome. Huddle dre and he just walked out West in on my sure. Drink in its six am at this point, we shot all night. is like so like what to like. We just bullshitted for like. A minute I'm asking all like the dumbest questions like. How long two weeks into filming you know. What are we doing like? Find Out. We have the same favourite XYZ. And then I was like piece I went. From Bare Straits of Fred Sixty. Two Most Bolus ate breakfast would just like a big shit eating. Like I, just met PTA. Yeah dump bed. That's a great to fred. Sixty two good a good follow up spot for something like that. Yeah, if you're like awake at five am. The only place. I think I crush like. pancakes or something ridiculous. A. Gather Chili. CHEESE FRIES NOT BE CLICKER, but it's good to issue string of you drop the common guard. Yeah, actually, it's funny. I'm drinking red wine right now. I drank too much red wine win one night I threw up in my my bowl there and. US, that's already throughout. Yeah, that's right bugged. Yeah I have I've amazing Fred Sixty to throw up storied where this guy who he was a post production assistant golics. We'd all went to the RAT party and then. After, he was like Hammer. And afterwards PA. Took like this to be as after like. Four am meal whatever dislike rap. The season and as wondered, is super and hammered. and. The other PA's like man, I think he's GonNa like bombing, so he takes him outside and. You guys can use those as far as you like slang or whatever, but the other day comes back and he goes dude. You just power wash the sidewalks. A.. And he was like. I don't know what to do. Might all I've got a jet like you know, it's forty a m my to kill me. Be I gotta go like here's cab money at home. I out. The next day. I hear. They couldn't get a cab 'cause nobody would let him in because he was like. You know all of the. And then that dude pieced out, and apparently one of the deuce from the kitchen was like I'll drive him home. and He drove him home the Glendale where he lived with his parents, unlike knocked on the door, and like woke up. Here's your. Twenty eight year, olds or whatever? But a power-wash stuck with me for asking turns perfect yeah perfect. Do. That's good. Yeah and so. Very in full circle to this kid. I think go to college. It sounds like you want to break up for a little bit. Maybe try that out and then I think in time you guys will come back together and I. Look Forward to the day when you're emailing us about your upcoming nuptials so or stay together, but it's going to be a whole new work. It's going to be like. Right. Yeah is going to be a whole new ballgame. Yeah. I, feel he wants to break up. I feel like that's why he messaged us was to give the green light, but I think that before, but. The maybe not named love this year 'cause they're going to. Do, we broke up. I'm single, and then she's GonNa meet some Amazing Med guide who rocks? and. He's GonNa be like I can't get fucking laid like nothing is happening and then. At holiday like they're gonNA. Come back to their hometowns. She's me like yeah. He's like actually here with me and said what's up. Man I heard everything about you. You sound like you're great hat. And he's just GonNa be like Owen Wilson meet the parents. Yeah. Yeah Good Call as I'd say stay with it try it out. If he wants if he wants. Yeah sticking on GET CRAZY Believing you know Romance Glove. That is true. It's good to believe in stuff. Yeah all right. You believe in it. Yeah I have my doubts. I believe in it. Yes, that's all the questions honors. That's that's basically it. Dude, thank you for coming on man. It was hank you especially when you. Stances man. It's really nice of you to still take time to come on and talk to us. Yeah, thank you for all the time. Course Man I'm just trying to show off my psychedelic snakeskin blanket over my whiteboards could see what I'm writing jails looking at that it's. It's no. If people get tired of looking immediately, can kind of just zero in on that? Yet you love. God. Is that your writer's room? Erin. Yeah, this is my like it's like a basement office saying with like A. Relic? Whiteboard got my computer system. Here our gym over here and Niche and that. This is quarantine writers Jim cool spat ass. Workout some movies right now, he said. Right. I guess the only thing that's real so far. This treasure movie was Vince Vaughn for Netflix. Alkaline is do we'll see. Where that goes. What happens when it gets made, and then just a bunch of other fucking place I'm spending. We know always is writing your favorite part. Yeah writing like. Writing is the most rewarding for me. 'cause you're like. You're just coming. You came up with it and you made it work. You don't mean like. Improv fun because it's like. Wow, that moment happened and it was perfect, right? Like you can't get that back, whereas like writing is like you constructed something. You made something that like. Built and turned into something, and then we see it filmed receiving using actor conflict role. That shit's just fucking cool to me, But it's a slog. It's like lot of alone time. Being in writer's room for a TV show is like. The greatest job of the wolves. That's the best show because you're wrapping with other people who are like minded and quick and with it. Yeah, yeah, will you just like you're not alone? When you think of something funny, you say it out loud and people laugh. They don't right. When you're by yourself, you think of something you don't say it out loud. You write it down and you go. That's funny, but you don't get that reward until very far down the line, and then also like. The reward is that everyone goes. We love what you're it's. It's super funny. This line made me laugh out loud. So we need to change it, and then they just get right into the work that needs to be done. Whereas you can go on a riff in a writer's room about something that will never be filmed for thirty minutes. and. Feel like. You had an awesome day you. That that energy in the writer's room is just something that. It's. Such a unique feeling, right? Yeah. There are always things that you're like what we can't film that you can find that one. That's just as phony as that outrageous. You can't film and find a way to do it and you. You pull it off like it's doable. The fucking best. Yeah, and you feel like your brain gets sharper because everyone in the writers smart and they're they're. The riffing is so fast that literally workout for your brain. Yeah I'd I'd came out at night sometimes and I'd like fucking tired. riffing yeah. I don't know sometimes be the most tired I'd. I'd Kit Yeah I came in think. that. Was Just my battery starring ago ten percent labs. How timely we your? Your mind's also got your Dawson. Rain is still going. I would. Be like. It's not working towards a stop. Just turn it off. Yeah you don't need to be funny here. Interview sprinters during the Olympics? They like just like. How was it like? Godless. Boxing to boxing guy gets knocked out or gets his head rock for twelve rounds and they're like they're like. Louis. How do you feel after that fight? He's A. Better like he's not going to be like super with that. He just got his head Bob. Actually I'd one last thing. Did you think of NEAL MCDONOUGH? mcdonagh's the bad guy game over man. When you're right 'cause. He's such a good bad guy. And also bad guy. We didn't we we had that was like are Lynch. Pin Casting. We knew we had to get somebody super diabolical. That is like a bad guy, just instantly to because he kind of has that energy. Yeah, I mean that dude as those is those. If he wasn't in movies like being sinister leg I. Don't know what else it would be. He was like the guy that hurts. You rented your car. You'd be like he's too yeah exactly. Cheese on the BACK TIRE YOU'RE! Going to get murdered out there all. The. That's all I'm saying from here on across the. I don't care who gets it or what? Burnell yeah. He was great killed do. This a Vancouver native and we were filling up there. Um, and so is a no brainer. Nice yeah, all right, sweet well, thanks! Thanks for coming. Of course, it's thank you for having made. Alive. Food And later aggregate one. He was cooling folk. Yeah, that was awesome. Yeah debate now I know dude. I had a girl last night. Message me. She's like. She was like Not all cops are bad I'm like I'm not saying that I'm just focusing my attention on like. A different situation I'm just worried about african-american people in America and then she was like. She was like you know what these protests I'm so over it. She's like I'm just over it in like yeah I. Think I think black people are over. Over a lot of stuff. Privileged to be over yeah. I know I'm so over it of like. Oh! Wow, yeah, so you feel bad for day. It sucks. Yeah. It's seeing a lot of accounts like. They just joined twitter in March, it's like. Something Weird about that like yeah. Dicey stuff there's been some dicey stuff for your like. My friend Sarah had a thing on her instagram. It's very clear that someone who's purporting to be a protesters, sprays pepper spray into someone's face and then And, it's like it doesn't look like the kind of pepper spray. Just pick up on his store at I, don't know why they would do that. or or what the the gain is, but I think it's just A. Certain people. He's trying to cause chaos. Yeah, Peckish Braise, a tricky one though like. You, spray that you're getting like. Oh yeah, because it's not directed for. Covid, sneeze or something. That's the one thing I wish people were more careful about. This pandemic still happening. 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What up manscaping? Thank you so much back to this show. JT WED DADS say. My! Dad said that he's really proud of us for having a sponsor. And for making that dollar as the business savant and a proud capless, my job was like jacked on US making headway in the advertising game, and then I said but debt. Beyond all that have you tried the product and he said all right. Let me give this thing a go round. My Dad came back and he showed me the cleanest said appeals I've ever seen not. Just a beautifully groom section. I saw my dad's cubes and they looked amazing. my Lord Chad. What's your for the we? Maybe for the week, is the caller daddy beef? Has Been following this dude. Good beef brewing I've been following it, dude! It's so interesting I listen to Dave. Portnoy's podcast on it and I've been following. The beef did I. Mean it's a good. For anyone in like a partnership with someone about how to handle the bids Do not let cash get in the way so basically caller. Daddy's one of the top podcasts in the. Sophia Franklin Franklin Alex Cooper and they just you know talking about girls stuff, you know they get. They get down and dirty. They're they're very real, and I think their audience. really response to that and. They, they signed a three year contract with Barstool and. Starting as creators. From what I gather, it was pretty standard contract. You know and the big thing is that barstool would own their IPO. Their it my bed there. He owned they own. Their IP is a three year contract. And with the amount of listeners that they're getting. The money. Does Not match. Up. But at the same time they signed his contract when they were just starting out, so they didn't know how big it was going to get. Although, you should always ask act as if. You're going to be huge. But lesson learned. So they're reading their renegotiating and Sophia new boyfriend, Duda HBO or whatever and his talking inner ear about how? They can make so much more money which they can. If you look at like what Joe Rogan is making their, they're putting up girogio number so. You know like their contract was like seventy, five thousand, a year plus bonuses for like extra download so according to day Portnoy. They're Reagan around five hundred thousand a year. And, so they're renegotiating installing on the contract and and then you know. Alex, to stay with Barstool because. Barstool was like all right. This is ridiculous. But we'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA. Make a compromise here. Here's a new deal. You make five hundred thousand, a year, guaranteed plus bonuses emerging all this stuff. And at the end of one year. You get your Ip. So. You know. They, probably could have made more money, but I think the important thing was is that they were going to get there? I pee back. And then they could go do whatever they wanted with the show. But one of them Sophia didn't want to do that. And then Alex wanted stay with Barstool, so they were beef in hard. And eventually, it got so bad that they split Alex's do on the show Solo, so fees out. and. It's A. It's a bummer for their friendship. You know, but it's. It's an important lesson I think just to. You know. Not, let money get in the way, but also think about the contracts signing. Oh Yeah. Dude I think it was. It was good for me to listen to I was like I've been very fascinated by the world right? Yeah, and then. I can't understand. It just disappeared just not like Barstool did she just not want to be on the Barstool brand anymore? Because it seemed like barstool boosted the offer and put it in a in a territory, it seemed like it was more fair for for the listenership that they had, but then she still didn't want to go with them, and it felt like. It felt like her boyfriend just got into her ear and convinced that that it would be greener pastures if they were like I Dunno ear, Wolf, or something like that. Yeah and I. I don't really understand her. Train of thought on it because like. If I were her I, would have just you know even if she didn't stay with Barstool. Barstool help blow it up and. It was just one year I. Mean You just? Do your year then you can do whatever you want with show. as opposed to just pissing them off so that they take the Ip back in you know it's. It's a whole mess, so. yeah, it sounds like this boyfriend. Was just you know? She Yeah. He was just inner ear Inn. He's the Yolk. He's a little Yoko Ono ish. Ranch huge. It's very smart. The Way Dave Portnoy uses his. Visual his visible platform to like handle his business affairs. Yeah, but I'm very grateful. That Mike Berta. Lino at all things. Comedy doesn't do it that way it totally. If you like cross him, he'll just go straight to his audience, and it's very effective like he had laid like scooter Bron at yet in the light, backing out and he's. He's very good at like recognizing that, but it's a and it scares me, but it's not. It's not what I would want from a boss. It would make me feel uneasy. Yeah. Totally. I mean it's. I can't imagine it had like. If that happened so like us, it would suck balls, but it is very entertaining yet. and. We got a call from Barstool to and we were first coming up. Yeah, now he made fun of me on. He didn't make fun of me, but he was like what you guys a story. I was like this and that now you know full time we make like videos like you full time and he made. A month yeah. It's like well. We put a lot of. Yeah. I think we landed at the right place at Joe. What do you think? What do you think about portnoy going after the color daddy girls on online. I. Is It's interesting beef A. I really enjoyed it. Do I'm fascinated by? I watched the one girl. Alex's entire thirty four minute breakdown I've been on to you did yeah no way, Dude. That's amazing. You think it's because we're in a partnership that it's like kind of fascinated news to see. Yeah! It's I mean it's good. It's good lesson like out to let money you know. Ruined thanks especially for them within like a year. Yeah! And now they're going to replace the one girl and it's like. They're going to replace her. I didn't know there. Yeah. I think Alex is back in Sofia is out. have she's doing it so low right now? Oh okay, I don't choose to get another another host I. Listen to episode back. She's GonNa. Guess she said, and she's GonNa like have have fans. Come on to talk. I'm not sure if she's replacing the I'm maybe a in in time. She will find replacement. Yeah, I don't know. That's a great beef. Though do that, that's that's one of my. I've been fascinated by that beef. Yeah, everyone's talking about it. Every buddies covering it well, they're huge. I mean I. Don't know how many listens. But They're like they're on the bliss. They're up there with Joe Rogan right. I G- I guess they and Tino called Santino subbed in for Callan on the fighter in the kid, and they had both of the colored daddy girls on guess, he said one of you will get. A boyfriend will come in between you guys. He said that. He predicted. It I've always seen that as a comment I haven't seen the actual footage of him saying that, but people are saying he called it. Yeah, Oh interesting. Yeah, that's scary. Yeah. yeah air. What's your take on it? Just always always always. Keep your be. Yeah. Do we get our? For Moyer, TC right on a percent hell. Yeah is yours now. It's you'll be yours forever. ATC's. Company by COMEDIANS for Comedians. And strider Scheider show guys. Friday show is going to be coming out pretty soon. Get ready to screw day and I was talking about in Dude Scheider is a few about you Aaron. You're like it's been super. Fun. Yeah. That's awesome yeah. Best Guys. Aaron what you'd be for the week. Before! The week is with the local news. I've been watching a lot. Obviously, because the what's going on in the world, the protests and Mostly been watching, CBS to here in La, which is also ktla somehow. But man just there's one guy in particular. WHO's out on the street? He's in harm's way, so I get it like. He's doing something brave, but he's he's just constantly, and then the the news anchors back at homebase. Are constantly like. Putting their. Like attaching a narrative or speculating on an errative. And it's just. It's super upsetting because it's. It's wrong. and I think I think local news. You just literally just show us. What's happening like this guy talks? This guy in the street talks like there's not something incredibly. Exciting happening right in front of him. Whether it's you know just just people saying how they feel and. And there's cops right there and this guy just is going on and on about how this started. It's like dude. Everybody knows. There's not even a grandma. Turning on the news right now doesn't know what's GonNa. So yeah, my beef is with those guys just. Just, show us what's happening man because. So much can be misconstrued. And, then if all you hear is the misconstrued, then then that's all you think and it's terrible. Yep. Yeah I think that the news with how it's how? Yeah like. If you turn on the news is just like the worst things. It's trash every time. And then like you said with like the protesters like you know peaceful. Empowering, inspiring stuff happening, but they don't show any of that really. Just like they're like there riots happening in your like. Fuck, and then you know many people who after they're like? It's not as bad as it was on the news in your leg. You know at what is the news? What? What's the benefit? Of what they're doing now! They're fucking and they're just trying to get attention so that they can keep their bottom line secure like they're. They're under existential. Threat is social media has totally. Just destroyed the way people consume information and destroyed their model for help. People consume information. They're just sending out awful messaging. It's it's ridiculous. Dude, honestly. I went to the the riots today on sunset. The right terms so sorry. I went to the protest. It wasn't arrive on sunset and it was like it was totally peaceful, and if you were there i. think anybody would have been inspired by what was going on. People have every color every age. Just saying like Hey, what happened to George? Floyd was fucked up. None of these people are trying to loot or do any of that shit. They're literally just trying to. Help people who are you know? Not being protected? I don't even believe that the news people are. Purposely. Misleading I just think. You you don't need to be on a live Mike for. Five hours. Yeah, but you just don't like. Let some of that. Breathe like he's not dead air. We're hearing. There's audio coming from the outside world like just. We don't need. What you know. Joe Whatever. Not. Job, racy a whatever so I'd love to hear joe-marie. See on the news. IBM. Yeah, we don't need like. You don't have to fill that time like there's something incredible happening. We can all see it. It's not radio shut up. Yeah and and I post about black lives matter and I firmly believe in that I think that that it's an important thing to to support and I. think that it doesn't mean that we don't care about. Other people are compassionate, not limited. We're just focusing on the people who were I. Think being most depressed. But but also I feel for the shop owners and the people who got their places. I'm not driving around day. You see suite, older guys who bulletin up there's or with would cause. They're schick broken from whoever and they don't have a part in this and it's just. It's a tragedy, but I think I would start it. All this tragedy is and what the core issue here is the systemic oppression of black people, and that's what we're trying to. If we can fix that. I think you wouldn't have these other issues that are affecting other innocent people. That, yeah. But my e for the week. Is With passwords. Passwords Dude. I was trying to log into Microsoft. xbox for something and they're like. What's your password I'm like you know I. Don't Know My fucking password Microsoft. Why the fuck do I have another password with you? Okay, and if you were like, Hey, you can't have the same password for everything, because then if someone finds out your password, they have access to everything and I'm like I. don't care all right. I'm tired I. Don't need I got six thousand passwords I. Don't know any of. Of them every time I go to my spectrum cable Microsoft my bank every time they ask me for my password. If it's not already saved in the device, that I'm logging into with I, have to create a new password every time and then so everytime I'm taking the same old password ahead and I'm adding another exclamation point to it and I'm just confusing myself. Even more or I'm changing one letter, so it's capitalized because they have their own bullshit characters, Roy GAM and I'm just like. Screw. All these passwords dude. I feel that I feel it so deep in my loins. Just. That's what I'm trying to reach. Yeah Dude I mean. With all these accounts. Do. You got to make accounts for like you know if you want to track your package so like you need to make an account. Like. Just tell me where the packages are you know I? Want Green Juice WanNa make another password. Yeah and then they're like connect with facebook. You know I'm going to connect with facebook. Yes, you're going to do that. Yeah, for sure. Yeah that's a weird gray area. A massive walkout at facebook today the whole company's revolted against Sucker Bird. Because he won't fact, CHECK BIG T. I mean. We gotta get. A hold of technology in passwords and accounts. In our jobs dudes I mean. Do. Ro I'm stoked on it though let's get a hold of do. We're going to figure out all this shit. It's going to be a brighter day. We got this. And we take care of Corona, and once we take care of racial injustice. Then we're going to scoot John over climate change and we will fix that Shit, and then we just going to be cruise. Maybe it's going to be easy. Is Dumb. It's optimistic. I love it. All right Chad. Who's your baby the week? My baby the week is It goes myself. What A CHATTY! Our big! Thank you! I I got so solo win warzone. Two! Days ago. And, I'M NOT GONNA. I'M NOT GONNA lie. Stoker's a suck. So I don't know how this happened, but. In those thirty minutes or less? Free! In those in those thirty minutes of virtual combat when I had you know. EPIC SILENCE SM. Or L. M. K. member with a thermal scope. I was free and I. You know every time I saw dude just straight up. You know I think it's because I. Did that Murph workout and I just you know. Just channeling my inner warrior and You know I will post. Post the the win. Sin when. It's more appropriate. Your. Dude. I posted about your wwl, so fired up on it, but it wasn't the time for it, so I had. I had to take it down. So fired up on your your W. Thank you. I was alone Saturday night. You know. Thinking about the drill factor that I got the W I didn't throw myself. That's nice. Dude are preserve. I've kept the Jews in my balls. Retain your Google Bro. Retain. Beast Aaron! Who's your baby the week? By Babe of the week is be blocked button. Social Media. It's good. It's just like you know I didn't. I got into with people was just re tweeted. Something from someone else and got attacked by a a follower. WHO's probably a fan of another PODCAST ATC? Problem with. but Dude I. Don't need to go back as you. Know I think he was from from punchdrunk. I'm not sure that's only had his profiles as he loved the Falcons. But You know it's just re tweeted. Something He. He tweets else me. I'm supposed to be equal and. It turned out. And I immediately I went into defense mode I went. Oh, okay, let me see the source of what you posted. What you're tweeting at me as a guy from Breitbart a ha-. Something, fishy about this and sure enough later on that that night it was the video I was tweeting a video that was like a super cut of cops being violent. Horrible. It's horrible fucking bullies. Yeah, it's not okay. No matter what happens. Yeah, they have to be better than that. And then he tweets it me. This video of this group of dudes brutally beating this white guy. Horrible and I'm like that's terrible. Yeah, arguing death, not horrible. But I'm looking at. Your source is a Guy Breitbart. And he's saying it's because of this scenario. This context and I'm like. I. Don't trust that guy. And then sure enough later that night. It's because the white guy that got beat up and it's still horrible had a machete. He had a sword. Tracing with sword under the guise of defending his business as soon as you start chasing someone, you're on offense. That dude that dude came out and actually had some pretty good humility, and his tweets got his ass rock. and. He said he didn't even own that place. That was a bar he liked to drink at any was protecting the bar because he liked to drink. There, you know I. I admire the guys bravery not with Italy weapon. and. He even acknowledges like look. I. In retrospect, probably stupid I did this yeah? US to like talk coherently. Yeah I mean I was brutal, so I'm I'm glad he's okay or yeah. He looked he looked dead. Yeah, yeah, that video looks like. They left him, but I mean it scared people. You know and you've come at them with a sword, and then you lose that sword. Like! To show me only a piece of video as evidence or something like. And then and then. Just fuck and then I sent that video to after in blocked, so he can still see it, but I don't have to hear back from. Blockbuster beautiful. What a baby! My baby the week is Oliver Player. I, think better care of all time. does incredible work in the three musketeers a time to kill flatliners lake plastic blessed. He's tremendous and all these movies. He is so good at just playing blowhards, but bringing so much Like ability to them and I just think he's one of the most under rated actors of all time, and he had some really choice parts that are in smaller movies like please give where he can really show off the full array of his skills, and they are immense so to everyone would check out Oliver Platt. Cheers Lake placid. These are not great movies, but he is great in them, and he's just a treasurer. Oh cazenove. That's another like who cares who remembers movie that he is just full of inspiration in like genuinely funny, and he's dealing with mediocre scripts, and he's just bring life to him. So I'm grateful to have Oliver plowed into my life I thought about him. The other like we're not talking about Oliver, platinum. These a fucking beast, so all replied. You're my baby the week. Chad who's your allegedly? A militia. The week is my niece Taylor. My brother sent me a video of her. She started to talk now. She says thank you. Is accused thing ever saying. Oh Dude. Yeah. You're the cutest thing I've ever seen when you say that dude. Thanks! Fucking Doro. Thank you do the girl emceeing? She said she liked when he had a beard and our youtube met her watch videos Oh. Really and our youtube rabbit hole video. She said she liked when you've got a beer. Thank you. Thank you yeah, I, don't know. I've always preferred the clean shaven. I appreciate her. Yeah I, did get a lot of Nice comments when they had it like I. Like the scruff. You Look Great. Thank you do we do dirty talk where we say we love each other. We. But, then we agree afterwards, so we we don't. Aaron Legend. Whatever works man. By legend who? Is Center number thirty three Kareem abdul-jabbar lease. I mean he's been. He's been advocating for change for so long. Know from the moment. He changed his name from. Lew alcindor. to? Sparring with Bruce Lee. Two dominating on the basketball court to where they had to like change the rules. There's no dunk anymore. Disguise to good. and then his article that he wrote for the La. Times other day is is just beautiful opera renaissance. Man Yeah Yeah. Improper move in NBA history, and then he's a beast with pen to. strider tells the story often I drag shredders see Taylor soldiers find theaters. I fell asleep immediately and slept throughout the two and a half hour. Slog that. And Criminal Jabbar was in the theater in strider says he looked around the feeder. Everyone was asleep and then he saw cream into back, fully focused on an entire. and. UNMISSABLE. Long asked back. Yeah, yeah, I loved him as an airplane. Yes, forget that. Best he's in his dot called a blacklist which is just like black. Artists and luminaries and stuff talking about their experience, and and he's he's interesting in it. He's he's a really compelling guy. my legend of the week is Mad Fraser. He's the best cross fitter in the world for years in a row. Guys watched the cross documentary on Netflix. You'll feel shot out of a cannon. It'll just make you better at whatever you do in your day. This guy is five nine, one ninety five, and he just gets after dude I'm talking Clinton Jerks, chocolate muscle ups and pull ups. I'm talking upside down. Push ups. Guy Can do it all. He's going up against guys who are on royds any still whoops that asked, and he just has a great perspective on things. He's got a wife that he loves lives in his MOM's basement and he's a world champion from there I loved accident thinking about moving into my mom's house and. And he he just has good quotes. He says look if you look at any of these individual events, none of them are in my wheelhouse, but I work out hard every day, so that I don't have a wheelhouse. Get it. Matt Freezer and he's not like. He's never bitter and he's never arrogant. Any just lives in his middle place. Regis takes life as it is, and he's confident in his abilities, and that's enough and I just found it very inspiring so I've I've I've talked to you. Don Cross before for. It's kind of colty leg atmosphere, but I'm buying into. Sign me up for the cheesy maximums in the hard muscle ups. I. Think I think it works. Maybe as are you GONNA try Jim. Nice, but in my head I think it's cool. That's awesome. Chat what's your? What's your quota the? I'M GONNA. Keep going with a van wilder. So, this van wilder in. They're doing the naked mile run. and. Tarried. And she's like she's like everyone is naked and he's like well. It is the naked mile run. Everyone else will be in their birthday suits. And then this guy was like Super Harry back. Just comes up. Gives everyone a high five. He's like. Set Deck. That part. That's. And that's it. Dude. Keep going wanted a good flag. Yeah! What's? Air, what's your quotas week? I'm a quarter of the week is from that article that? that cream Abdul Jabbar. for the LA, times. Mike is. Yet? Sorry new headset, learn it. was three helicopters on each other. let me see. Okay, here we go! racism in America is like destiny air. It seems invisible even if you're choking on it until you let the sun in. then. You see it's everywhere as long as we keep shining light. We have a chance of cleaning wherever it lands. We have to stay vigilant. Because, it's always still on the air. Nice! That's awesome. My my quoted the weekends from the almost famous from a deleted scene where Russell dead guitarist from stillwater played unbelievably by billy credit is talking to the main character. William and he's talking. About are any goes, but it's not what you put in, is it? It's what you leave out. Listen listen to Marvin Gaye. Assault like what's going on the single woo at the end of the second verse. You know that whoo that's single. Woo that to you REMEM-. Silly things the little things. There's only one and it makes the song. It's what you leave out. That's rock and roll. Yeah LA- about that whenever I watch comedy, movies or TV shows. You cannot. You can tell that whatever they're setting up as the big joke. Like the huge thing, that's not what I remember. It's little character things that they do like. It's always kind of like a smaller thing. That's that's. It's like it's which seems to be more like a happy accident or something in, and sometimes we'll die huge bit that they're building up if they hit it with a needle instead of a Sledge Hammer Yeah your brain likes more at appreciates the restraint and you're like Nah. Yeah, they're like you. Didn't. You didn't kill me with it? Yeah, yeah, that Kinda, master and control to it yeah yeah. what's your? Up, there's something to that. What's your forget after? A. Put on our genes. Nice Dude. Put them on I'm wearing them right now. What's your week for after Aaron? Start a revolution. Hemi. My my quote of the week forgetting after it is from Matt Fraser The aforementioned cross fit legend, he says thirty five minutes into the Dubai Doc. That's on Netflix. He says If you do stuff. You don't have to Brag other people brag for you. And I was like dude. I made me Never WanNa Brag again. That was a cool shit, so I understand the hot. That's awesome. Yeah, he's a beast. It's. All right guys, good stuff, stay stay felt there. Guys Aaron good to see you, too.

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SMNTY Podcast and Chill Playlist, Episode 3:Feminist Movie Friday, First Wives Club Edition

Stuff Mom Never Told You

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SMNTY Podcast and Chill Playlist, Episode 3:Feminist Movie Friday, First Wives Club Edition

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There are three whole seasons of committed for you to binge three available on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts or wherever you like to listen to your podcasts. Banning Anthony and welcome to stuff never told you. Production of iheartradio's how stuff works. And we're back with another edition of feminist movie Friday, and this one is kind of a departure because we've done superhero movies and horror. He's yeah. We're trying to mix it up. Said this would be a little more lighthearted. As opposed to the revenge episodes that we just completed, and funnily enough, even though it is more light, hearted, I would. Definitely agree would have to trigger in here, right? For suicide and very brief mention of sexual assaults. You are pretty surprised at the very beginning. Oh yeah thought. I'd tricked you I did I because I've never seen this until Samantha and I watched it together about a week ago. I had no idea what to exhibit. Samantha what you said something like. It's about middle aged women. Are Something is definitely one of those yet. Coming middle aged women movies right so so for it to start in the way that does with a suicide. Right was a little surprising margin story. True True, and we'll get more into the plot in the second but for basics. This is a nineteen ninety-six comedy comedy. You'll get gold I did well I definitely did, and it turned out to be a pretty good choice of movie, because of the question of revenge versus justice that comes up quite a bit, and we talked about that in our part, one on women and revenge. It was very very gloriously nineties. I'll say that adds. That was a fun little flashback. He loved the nineties. Do you remember the first time you saw this oh? Yeah, so I do not because it's been a while from what is I can't remember who air, what but I just remember seeing it but I do remember that I watched this as well as a League of their own in preparation to the two thousand sixteen election. Yeah Ya Anne and trying to get all really kind of inspired, and you know not too deep into it link dark. But kind of and inspiration level of. We can do this. Yes, and funnily enough of trump, isn't it? Yeah, discussed that more later, do more. You recognized more. Than I did not like oh my gosh. Gloria Steinem I. I was like what's that. was was so. Let's go ahead and get into it because it is a fantastic movie to me. Marissa great listener. Says a law. Yes, I love her taste so four plot. If you have not seen this movie, or maybe it's been awhile which for a lot of people probably has so. This is a nineteen ninety-six movie directed by Hugh Wilson with a screenplay by Robert harling based on a nineteen ninety-two book of the same name by Olivia, Goldsmith, stars Goldie Hawn Bette Midler and Diane Keaton is three recently reunited. Friends who decide help each other get revenge or justice. Yeah, they say against their. Their ex husbands, who ditched them for a younger woman, played by Sarah Jessica Parker, which by the way this was made after Hocus pocus. We did a better up Marcia gay harden. WHO's been in Elizabeth Berkley? You know her from saved by the Bell, fame and then on the periphery. We have Maggie Smith as an NYC socialite dame. Maggie Smith, right, if you WANNA, be Nasty and K me appearance by Gloria. Steinem missed until you this out to me any and I WANNA trump. which she's kind of the. All encompassing first wife like she's the what they call her. The original first wife also just throw it out. There had a bit of the women the movie as Inspiration Yeah and If you're like me. Maybe you didn't get the the title I. It's because they were first wives. Way. You didn't know this. I don't know why I thought that was obvious, but yeah, it is. Why? Did Not. Put it together so just. Out there despite mixed reviews, this movie became a box office hit earning almost two hundred million dollars at the box office, and it definitely got a cult following especially among middle aged women inspired a musical and a television show. And a movie like this is still unfortunately pretty rare main cast of middle aged women about their friendship. Even though yes, they do spend a lot of time talking about men. but yeah, I don't really see that too much. The movie starts off in nineteen, sixty nine with four friends annie played by Keaton Elise. Played by Goldie Hawn Brenda played by Bette, Midler and Cynthia who's played by Stockard channing who told me was in Greece? Yes, okay, yes. I was paying attention, and they have just graduated college and are filled with excitement about their futures. The share champagne toast and Cynthia presents her friends with Pearl necklaces. Yeah I know. I said well I didn't get that many of my friends. That's okay. We don't need Pearl necklaces. A. Pearl necklaces may take picture together. And Cynthia makes them all promise that they'll always be there for each other. And then it cuts to present day. And Cynthia is tearfully gazing at the picture, clearly implying that they have drifted apart. They have not in fact been there for each other. She's living in a super fancy apartment through a series of newspaper headlines It's revealed that her ex husband a man Cynthia climb the social ladder married a much younger woman. I believe like two days before today's after got divorced Heather locklear. What well? Cynthia. Gives her made her set of paroles and three letters to mail to her once close friends, and then she puts on this floor length fur coat. There's so much for US movies. The nineties. she gets a drink and a cigarette, and then she jumps off the balcony to death. There's also a lot of cigarette smoking there is. Ninety so at the funeral! The three friends shocked reunite feeling guilty about not being there for their friend. They go out for lunch afterwards and after a few drinks. They all admit their lives aren't what they had hoped for, so they literally just go one. It starts at the very beginning what they're really nice. Each Other, just being everything's perfect. Everything's perfect, then cut till like four drinks later everything's bills. And her husband are separated in therapy, which by the way she puts a positive. Way and then actress has husband left her for a younger actress, and she is now an alcoholic reliant on plastic surgery and I think it is really kind of funny. Because at that point, there was this whole underlying joke about her going in for surgery right so she was making an even bigger very self aware. and Brenda's husband divorced her for young woman, leaving her in a financial large with her son rates. The three women each have disastrous encounters with because after this this lunch Anne spins the night with her ex husband, believing that they were going to get back together only to find out that her ex's dating her therapist played by Marcia Gay Harden, and he asked her instead of getting back together that he wants a divorce. Elise discovers that her ex is asking for alimony and half of their marital assets, claiming she would never have been successful without him. Brenda hasn't embarrassing encounter with her ex when she confronts him at a Department Store and his new wife Sarah. Jessica Parker and address that Brinda. Brinda had mocked earlier shows up and makes fun of her her looks and her clothes and her size right and then there Cynthia's letter, which arrives at Uc at the very beginning, the made phrase Austin to since offer her which inspires them to form the first wives club, as in the first wife left for the younger second third, whatever wife to get revenge on their XS and they recruit. They also involve Amy's daughter, who is a lesbian, but then, but it is fun because she does get involved to help her as well as the social light. New York socialite definitely Maggie Smith. Brenda's mafia connected uncle and Brenda's boss, who is the interior decorator who I knew from perfect strangers from the eighty s? Sitcom I know what I know and that was the original TGI Friday line up. They uncover that Brennan's Ex had committed tax fraud taking a lot of stolen merchandise sold it off as his own, and then plans to restart. By our XS clients to finest this elise liquidates marital assets with their exes right to where they want them. The club decides that they want to be better than their XS. They WANNA take the higher road they want justice not revenge, so they coerce their ex husbands into funding their nonprofit, the Cynthia Swann Griffin Crisis Center for women primarily aimed at assisting abused women. The club throws this opening party at the center and we we find out at is now sober. And she took the play that her. Friend encouraged her to accept the role. Brenda reconciles with her ex any ball out her ex, and then turns him down at this party when he attempts to reconcile with her. Glorious item is there as is gonNA trump says the famous line. Don't get mad. Get everything when the party ends. The women all dressed in white seeing Lesley Gore's. You don't own me. Yeah, one of my favorite parts. Because every time we talk about first wives club. That's the song hit my head and Marissa actually commented in our stories they do you. Are you guys seamless? but yeah, it's also good to know. In this whole kind of thing you do have different tropes and we're GONNA. Talk a lot about it, but there's definitely gas lighting when Amy's husband, a breaks up with her essentially, but then trying to also get back with her and blaming her for his failures, but it's really interesting. I'm going GonNa talk a little more about it, but it's definitely like. The. We see it. We see oh I was so happy when she was like no. Not Getting back with you. It's also nice to see her. Get finally standing up because. He's the one that kind of just as a peacemaker and quiet and submissive. We're GONNA. We're GONNA talk about that in a little bit as well kind of the I feel like in a lot of these movies. The characters represent this one kind of magnify straight right but yeah, there's this song you don't own. Me has been head since we've done it and I thought it was from suicide squad and you kept singing it from this. Oh. It makes sense existed for a long time. Because obviously he's been around for a while, but they do it as a trio. Quartet because they had cynthia with her with them, because it was performed in college, they did in this. Was Them Kinda reclaiming at the end every time we talk about it, I also sing it. Yes, you do and may have seen throughout the movie as we were watching it. Yes, you did okay, so yeah. This song was recorded in nineteen, sixty three, and was adopted as part of the second wave feminist movement. It has been covered many. As, you can tell because any. I was very. Squad. Hired it from. It hasn't come out yet, but it was on the ad ads right the trailers. Yes, yes, yes, and we do want to look into each of these characters a bit more in depth, but first we're going to pause for a quick break for word from our sponsor. It's a basic trip. 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Yes, I feel like in a lot of movies like these are even books the characters are distilled into one basic thing, the pretty one, the goofy one, the Nice One, and that always leads to a buzzfeed quiz. Like which one are you through these main characters you can see different stereotypes about women personified right and I think it also each one of them that they play is kind of a stereotype of them as as individuals that they are known for Adler is known for being sarcastic and Sassy in real life Diane Keaton. I don't know if she's ever been like just Nice Nice, but she's definitely the quieter seemingly submissive one, and then you have Goldie Hawn who has always been the kind of treated as a dumb blonde type of thing and then again I think often applies with women who are getting back at people, the witches of Eastwick, which we talked about for about that movie while and had to go back and read the plot because it's been so long since I've watched it the craft, even Hocus Pocus Ali applied to which is maybe and. Just happened to be my theme I guess. It hasn't changed even in TV. If you think about like sex in the city and speaking of Sarah, Jessica Parker, and that kind of trope as well as four of them, they all represent very specific types of women. Yeah, and then you also have the new show doll face which I talked about before on Hulu and I think that has that same persona as well. You've got the down to Earth. Sassy one versus the you over the type stereotypical Asian woman. That's the whole thing in itself. I think that's an episode that we should get into is why do we have to represent women so? Monitor only one dimension. Yeah I could talk about that for a long time. It is interesting because. You really can't see this everywhere. And one thing! To give really nerdy versa when you're greeting character and dungeons and dragons, one thing they say is pick a treat, and that's your thing, and that's GonNa. Make it easy for you to know what this character would do, so it's it can be something as small as I'm afraid of blood or I get nauseous really easily. There's just funny. I feel like writers. Do this a lot where we pick okay, you're this and easy to write you then. But okay, let's look at our cast starting with Diane Keaton's Anne who provides kind of sporadic voiceover for the film Yeah and I would say she's the Nice One. She's what I would call the middle child a peacekeeper. You said that I would. I was most closely related to her like if I took the test this the one I would get. Definitely done method I would definitely be Bette midler. Well. I like the not Jewish, but you know Asian. There you go. This is the update the reboot. She's. She's plagued by low self esteem. She doesn't really speak up herself. She doesn't really express her emotions in Cynthia's letter to her. She said she most admired Annie's drink and present day Anne's daughter. Who Yes is Lisbon? She like? This is the first thing you learn about her anyway. Calls her door Matt, pointing out that she lets her ex walk all over her. That's why her daughter was so ready to help her right binge by the way is her father. She just could not stand her own father. Exactly meanwhile Annie's mom keeps pushing for her to get back with her ex on the surface, very upbeat I actually confused at first because I was like she's so happy, but what she's saying is so. Yeah exactly, but she plays it so well. It was like a she really happy with this situation. Yes she is in therapy. And that's the one of the first signs you get that all might not be well. Her therapist urges her to get angry and header with like what looks like a toy bat filled with air something no Styrofoam Bat. Kids played with kind of like the NERF version of Bat, but it's just a large, yellow and blue in. Yeah, okay, yeah colors. and at I can't do like she does it, but she's sort of laughing. But, then with the continued pressuring over therapist, she snaps and starts whacking at her with all his pent up anger. For shadowing to it is I i. never guessed that. Always apologizing and taking the blame that I did notice really quickly that she's constantly saying I'm sorry. with the three front when they when three friends reconnect over lunch, she maintains everything with her. Relationship is perfect even when she reveals, they are separated and Brennan Eliezer. Like ooh, laughing, that is. By the way would be kind of not that that's not a nice reaction, but it definitely sound like that. That's cute. Yeah, they don't Brinda have a more like. Oh, we've seen it. You know kind of cynical view. she believes her husband is going to get back together with her. She's super excited about it when she gets the phone call but yeah he instead after they have sex asks for a divorce. And then her therapist shows up and it's revealed that she is yes. The new girlfriend the same her this therapist by the way I've been telling her. She needed to work on her self esteem. So anti flips out. Your voice gets sue bright bitch storms out crying. Throughout the film we see her struggling with fear and expressing herself when they have to escape in apartment via window washing scaffolding. Yes, that happens this movie. She's the one that's terrified although i. do think that is pair when the group drunkenly sings. Have you don't own me the first time in the movie She is tentative. She stops shyness when other to attempt to let her sing by herself, but does grew into herself with the help of the women in her life right when she becomes majority shareholder and her husband's her ex husband's company. She does it confidently when her husband tries to reconcile with her. She tells you can self. End Her mom says you know what you need, absolutely nothing. And during the final music number, she thinks that joyously and competent. was part of the things she didn't want to be seen. In so when they would let her beat sees freak out because it was so embarrassing for her, she wanted to be the perfect whatever Rayo. She can't seem perfectly. She didn't want to sing out loud. I think it's interesting because it is, she's one of those characters that does have the mother who is continually pressuring her to stay married. It didn't matter what was happening and says you should be together with this man. She mentioned about her being older. Being able to find someone else she does yeah. which is absolutely kind of a stereotype of the mother ray? Okay, so let's hop into Goldie Hawn whom I love. She plays a struggling actress Elise Hu. You know very very famous for a long while, and then she comes at an age where she realizes. Oh, I'm in-between which I know. We've had many discussions on here to play the, but you're too young to play us. So, what do we do with you your? To pasture, so she she wants was an Oscar. Winning actress has now been relegated to B movies due to her unprofitable age quote unquote now getting roles for the mother, and when they talk about the mother, they say the words grotesque. He that's how he described the garrison as opposed to the young hot daughter, which year now that doesn't happen anymore. I guess I. Don't Know I. Don't know I've seen many actresses now who don't age? Yeah, it's phenomenal on like. How do you look like those yeah? Angela Bassett. She is one of those has never age I. Just can't figure out yeah. She says in the movie. There are only three ages for women in Hollywood, Babe district, attorney and Driving Miss Daisy and right now. I want to be young. She says science fiction, Young. Yeah, and the first time we see present dailies. She's getting plastic surgery for what is implied to be one of numerous. Times in her plastic surgeon, says something like. If you get any more plastic surgery, you're going to be able to blink your lips, which is funny She's also an alcoholic anti-smoker. In part to deal with the fact, her ex left her for a younger actress. Again played by Berkeley her husband is asking for alimony and half of their assets to at least as fury, which rightly so Elisa's insecure Bain inconsistently drawn. We do see her halfon with taking her husband's stuff or per. Per stuff as she would say, selling for one dollar to any and giving him half now we're all in the because he pouted. There's the season after the first wives. Club is formed where she was working on a stair climber and Brenda her. Doesn't it bother you that you never getting anywhere you climb and you climb and you? Climbing never reached the top three or something like that, and of course she says No. I love it I just get. This is when I can think. I think a lot of us think that way because when I've been when I used to run That's how I felt, but by the end of the movie she accepted a role in a play which is supposed to be really phenomenal aging gracefully think and she starts dating her co worker and gets sober. Yeah, and I did want to include that thing about the stair climber because it does remind I might have been reading way too much into it, but like of putting in all of this work, and just constantly and keeping yourself busy, but you're not going anywhere. Nothing is changing. which I thought was interesting. And then yeah, we have bette Midler as Brenda, the goofy one always ready with wise crack. She is financially strapped after she helped her husband succeed, and then he left her for a Younger Woman Sarah Jessica Parker that is a recurring theme in all of this. Is that These women helped their husbands. Get to where they are, and then once they couldn't even say a very bad lie. Use them any more. than. They left them right I. Mean essentially they do say this is their midlife crisis. Brinda is the WANNA. Talk about him going through a midlife crisis with an airing a car and all of that that's right. That's right. And I guess part of that is fair. Jessica Parker's character Brinda. Definitely has the best one liners into film. In my opinion, goodbye love. Hello, pop tarts pose a favorite. Cheese resentful beauty standard. She complains about Anorexia and Bulimia Women able to wear trendy fashions and close. She is the most in your face. He says it like she means it, and perhaps has the least growth of any of them at the end. She does end up. With her ex after he is contracting out that that doesn't mean she didn't have any growth, but I feel like she. Sort of I'm less sure of what her arc was compared to the other other to. she's the butt of a lot of jokes whether it's her frumpy clothes or her weight at one point in the movie. At least shout that her. Yeah, what did you ever win a Pie? Eating contest? Best Digestion in although admittedly elise plastic surgery is also source of a lot of mockery, so it's kind of like we're making fun of women doing looking beautiful or being some blunders and say and then not doing those things right and just kind of at the end. One of the things that Brinda Philip she's accomplished is she has lost some weight? She does say that which again yeah I'm with you. It doesn't seem like it's a big change as everyone else, but I think one of her stories were that fact that they weren't bill ninety men. They were trying not to Vilnai's men race Oh, morty. He cared for and so law just felt like he turned the wrong way. So, that is yeah. I think that's kind of part of the reasoning behind. Less growth for her. again, so we do want to touch on Doug Trainings Cynthia for a second. Who Kills Herself? Three days after her husband left her married, a younger woman was an heather locklear. WHO's in briefly? These were definitely mainstay ninety. These women by the way before she dies, she jumps to her death. A Swan dive slash swansong since her last name was Swan and she put all these trappings of her life. Like, she's wrapping herself in all the superficial stuff that ended up being meaningless including the She's wearing hills. You know in her pajamas and her for her drinking Her character represents a lot the danger of defining yourself and your partner, getting your self esteem through the relationship. In this case, the husband she helped build up apparently, her fortune actually helped his business. They do say that and how we teach women that their main goal is to get married getting very nineties values that we were slowly flipping the idea that point, and how women's values in their looks as well as their age, and that without these things there values go down. Also talked about how opportunities for women diminish as we age I'm starting to get a little anxious about that. The difficulty of starting over and the importance of female friendships and support and I think that's part of the reason I do love this film so much. It does rely more on the friendships and for me I. Think we've talked about this. You know both thought about this. We're not relationship people. That's never been a thing for me. I've never needed Habur. Relationship didn't have that many boyfriends. Ships did not ever last too long. But my friendships have been consistent and I'm I've been fortunate to have really good friends in my life and I know that if I need someone, they'll still be there even at almost forty. Where we're coming. Up, on Middle Age me. I'm coming up later biles younger. I can still see them on a weekly basis. I can still hanging out with them and consistently call them as where my mother, she lost contact with Oliver Friends because it was a different time in age and advice concentrating on family, no one had access like the Internet's right and I think that's a really different but I do love that even in the nineties they saw it as an important conversation to be had about things fall apart. oftentimes friendships last outlast most of these things obviously. Yeah I and I'm glad to see stories like this because we don't see that many of female friendships for that's like the first and foremost thing of the story and for me. My my friendships with women in my life. have been so valuable like more than anything and I'm so so lucky. That, have that and the support is hard to. overstate. And speaking of supporting women. We did WANNA talk about some of the main show and this movie including that one, but first we're GONNA pause for one more quick break for word from our sponsor. Okay, so a recent study found that a great hair day makes you happier more confident, but that same study also revealed that ninety five percent of women don't feel great about their hair. I can definitely relate to the confidence part because if my hair is doing something. A little weird something. I don't want it to do then I I can't stop thinking about it. The rest of the day Alma Guy we've all been there. Paintings. Rosewater collection feels and smells amazing. An comes with deep treatment that leaves your hair pedal soft. 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Their lives fell apart, but they have the support group of friends who not only are they trying to get revenge and get justice, but like in the case of Louise where they're like. No, you should take this play you. They're trying to help each other. Make healthier more successful life decisions. and I love seeing how Anne's daughter supports her. Ultimately, her mom does too that. There's three generations of women supporting each other, and all the stuff that yeah. These women are able to accomplish with each other's help, and they for the most part are building each other up and giving advice, believing in each other and helping each other succeed right, so that is the idea behind this that they can't accomplish their glow up or groove back. You know their bag. Without the help of each other, which is only highlighted by the fact that their downfall, their loss of self was partially due to the loss of each other thing. That's really important talk about not necessarily that hinges on other people with that. We do have to have support and others to push a lot of times as We grow apart. I mean that's the reality. What the Friends I had twenty years ago have now. But the friends I've had you know in those bows have remained friends because we were able to grow up together or change together, and even though things can separate you. A lot of the Times. When you find those people core group of people, your people it is. It's an amazing thing. The things that you can do these things that you can get support from. Just being here was you know being able to do? This is everything to do. With the people I know are supporting me or have pushed me. Say Yeah, these are important things to talk about. Let's do this. Very significant part of who we are and again we would have to say this has to do with privilege, so this was very white perspective. Obviously white rich. Perspective because we don't have an actress who's going to sell millions of dollars worth of beings to US dollar. It'd be lovely. Would be. Then, give us their fortune, but at the same time the main idea of As a nice feel of being able to see Group of friends who've been there for each other before, come back together now. Yeah and the argument they have. I also think was really enlightening because. There is a layer of. We've been trained to tear down other women because the things picking out on each other are largely looks based, but. I like underneath it all. There still is a layer of. I Dunno caring. Brinda was worried about elise drinking, and they definitely said things that were not supportive at all, but there there was this sort of. At the core of it that they still did care right and speaking of Women Tearing Down Women. We gotTA. Talk about the other woman troupe of that Yeah, because we see that, play out. Be In this movie and. Yeah? We were talking about this after the movie ended. And how much bullying we could place on these other women. So in the case of Sarah Jessica Parker Shelly. She is a gold digger. She's a stereotypical gold digger. She's manipulative, but unintelligent. The beautiful ditz. Many many jokes play out. as the club along with the socio, light Kenneally Goldberg, which is Maggie, Smith tricker multiple times right and I think. For me, I keep going back to the it's so hocus pocus car same character almost. Yeah. But then you also have Marcia gay harden daughter Leslie Rosen any and her exes therapists, who claims to be helping with any self esteem which? To me, is definitely the idea of gas lighting, not necessarily from Not necessarily from the therapist perspective, maybe because we don't know the conversations other than your self esteem needs to be stronger type of perspective, but her husband once again continually saying you always do this to me, you always make me feel this way. You always did it. for and you're like no buddy does not. Is the token definitely idea of gas lightning. Yeah, beginnings of and are taking that. Blame her believing that blame. Believing that up until. She exits at after finding out that their position the new woman. Screaming her non apologies, yeah, that was a great thing i. Cared for you. Did everything support I'm certain. Incident. You gotTa love. Her doing that I love. I love affair like you've got a letter. Express herself right, and then we have the. By Elizabeth Berkley. Young. Night actress and you can really see the power dynamic between her and Lisa's ex husband, who is offering her. All of these lead roles, yeah She's actually a Fanta leasing. Is that her play at the end, so she really does seem just like a super, young naive, and maybe flattered. That older man is interested in her, who is also going to help her accelerate her career and believing that she is maybe she let. He is telling her. She's good all these things. If you continue to be these things, I'll help your career whatever whatnot, but she comes in very naively, not even understanding seems the relationship between. Elise, and ex husband, unless she just kind of. Glad year. Even occur to her. That might not be super happy to meet her. Exactly I feel like that's definitely a trope at same time at least dot versus. Woman versus woman yeah, not that that did make me feel a little better. Talking about on the Mike hate that whole idea that. When there's a downfall in a relationship is the other woman's fault. Yeah, instead of seeing. That dude. Common Denominator In this whole scenario again, she is supposed to be sixteen so. You can talk about the how in the world is sixteen year old? That's living with this man. No one noticed. The conversation it is I did really appreciate that she showed up at the play at the AD. I thought that was a nice touch Chang. Yeah and she seemed to be really into it There is still the sense that they're playing. These women are playing the game that the only avenue for women to succeed is by using their US and their beauty to attract a man. It's not great that they play into it and tear each other down and one day they'll be competing with younger prettier women to. They'll be like second wives but at the same time it's kind of hard to blame them and I'm not condoning it all, but the patriarchal system we live in really does pit as against each other I. Guess I can see. I can see why it happens. The whole idea behind anti-feminists in general I think terrorists to Yeah true. also as the audience I'd argue were meant to tear down these women at least a little bit where poking fun at Annie's weakness Elisa's plastic surgery at Brenda's from. Penis yeah, absolutely is supposed to be the obvious of why they were left again. Something we see in society. We have to find a reason to blame. What did you do wrong? Why did he leave you and and don't get me wrong? There's definitely to tangos. Definitely takes two to tango. We'll try that one again, did it and there's a whole other perspective that we might not see. We don't see, but then there's also whole. Keep yourself together like all of these things make yourself presentable. Desirable would ever have seen more and more of people flipping that switch to. Men Or the other partner. And I've seen people take say that to them as well as unnecessary. In just in general traumatic. To try to blame whatever it's something. Maybe you can't help or something that you don't like about yourself either. It's not something that you want as a part of the reason that they left so right. Think is the kind of transitions into our next thing. We wanted to talk about which is having it all right, which is a huge theme of the nineties for a lot of women. That's true. Another thing. Because the whole idea of having it all is is impossible. It doesn't. It's not going to happen they start out so hopeful for their future. Having just graduated college in the sixties, which I'm sure was a big feet, but again these were very privileged women once again, white women, so we're able to get their education pretty easily seeing with their paroles. Champagne to celebrate but then we see them as adults, and obviously do not have it all us all whole scenario of the young naive idea of what it is to dream for the end. All to have perfect family lives with the princess like marriage. Obviously you see that dwindling away, and then you do see a lot about divorce rates in general and the falling apart of the Merican family, whether is set up by lies. Hook by live. That's a that's a hallmark or something. No, no, but it should be. It should be I, L-, let's go. Let's go right when. or whether it's just this level of. Expectation that you're not meeting in front of other people. So kind of like whether it's say mom, but I don't want to be, but I'm supposed to be or I am, and while I am a career woman, but I don't want any of those perspectives. You're supposed to have it all and be all running that perfect home being the perfect why having perfect career. Yeah and it's. It's a double edged sword, because you're going to blamed for being at work too much or not enough being at home too much or not enough Yeah so they. They were all successful. They got married. Some had kids, and they helped their husbands succeed only for these husbands do go and go for a younger woman. Once they had been established the help of their first wives, one tries keep everyone happy at the expense of herself tries to hold onto your us at the expense of herself. One lashes out at everyone at the expense of women everywhere they all define themselves as wives. So when that was gone after everything they'd given up. The best years of their lives as is said in the movie more than once. They didn't know what to do with themselves. They lacked purpose. Their happiness had always been second to see them clean themselves to take what's theirs and define happiness and success in themselves, and their friendships is really rewarding it can't it all, but with the help of each other. They get closer to having what they truly want. tagline! It I mean I'm here. I can write awesome. I can write things. And we did want to talk about revenge versus justice as well because. It's interesting. How the end the turn their desire for revenge outward. They make it into something to help other people they keep emphasizing. This is not revenge this this justice and their decision to start a nonprofit is a way of their desire for revenge into justice and honoring their friend that started this whole thing that them back together, which is especially interesting in light of what we talked about in our. Our women revenge episode about how women are more likely to channel their desire for revenge into altruistic purposes it right. I think there is a lot to be said when it comes to the female perspective of revenge and justice revenge is than all Al. maybe balls out hell and Brimstone while justice, restoring the balance at the if we'd look more deeply into it for feminist, take is trying to balance. As we would say that's what we're storing implies. You're getting it back to what it was. But I it'd be no, that isn't there. There's a tip of the scale that changes the perspective, and if we look at it for the first time, it's not that they're getting. Balance is just they're trying to find balance and put justice into place because they never had that balance to begin with right, so it's a whole different level. Yeah, it was always an unequal situation. and to close out here because we've had a surprising amount to say about I live. Maybe not I don't know. We did want to touch on some real world stuff including Ivana trump. Because after we watch this We were curious. About her being in the movie, and what she said and we looked it up because I, do remember the whole trope about the. She was the original I live, and it was a huge tabloid Java Ganda, when the divorce went down, and what was happening and the new mistress Marla Maples, coming in and yeah, small bit of history, because honestly again I forgot about the whole mess I just remember it being a big deal I was really young. The point you born. Yeah probably. Probably, a deposition relating to the divorce, she accused Donald Trump of rape and pulling out handfuls of our hair, and in a book written by Harry hurt. lost tycoon. The Mini Lives Donald J trump Ivana. Trump confirmed that she had felt violated quote unquote, however in a statement provided by Donald, J trump and his lawyers Ivana. Trump stated that she did use the word rape, but that she did not want her words to be interpreted in an literal or criminal sense which. Isn't very comforting. Been Anyway and the divorce was granted in nineteen ninety on the grounds of cruel and inhumane treatment by Mr Trump, so that was actually written into the reasoning for divorce, condition of the settlement was. She wouldn't talk about their marriage without his permission. So! Not to say too much, but this has obviously a lot of indications of all the accusations we see today. Yeah, it's been happening. It's been said is been said since nineteen ninety. Yeah, in official court documents and I think it was important to remember. Unfortunately, that does happen. Because I completely did not realize that statement was even written out as a part of the reason for their divorce. It was kind of funny at that time. Because everybody was making jokes about the fact that Donald was leaving her for a younger woman Marla Maples, and all of these things came out about how you cheated, and what he wanted and feeling like a failure. Because I think this was the beginning of him losing everything. And so again kind of having a breakdown and and going for the younger woman. That's exactly that trope, but then how serious. The situation was at the time, and everybody was able to disregard kind of good about that history. Yeah, until I believe it was brought up again during the elections, but there was a small blip. Everybody ignored. Yeah, and then. Another person. We WanNa talk about very briefly. It's Harvey Weinstein just because it's really hard not to see some disturbing parallels between him and the situation with the young actress in the so. It is odd to watch that movie. Now with our eyes are modernized and knowing what happens. It was treated so lightly and that fun time. Thing both of those situations so lightly today. You're like Oh. Yeah not. Bad. Yeah. and then Gloria Steinem. Steinem them, so you can come on. That's that's about where we have to say. On first. Wives Club if you haven't seen it, it's on Netflix. and we would love to hear from you. What should be our next movie? Feminists movie Friday or you move on I was GONNA say? Yeah excited for that for that one but after that was. Definitely are definitely come back for Heather's. Yes, and I think I'm GonNa, do one over. Like all together with the craft which is. Focused possibly because I felt like there's going to be a lot of interweaving true, and the which is, there's a lot of movies where you can talk about and there you see that such a. Because there's yeah. They're all women. Yes, interestingly. Love it, too, but in the meantime you can email your suggestions to you as at our email. 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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 2 - Charles Barkley and Wyatt Russell (11-16-18)

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 2 - Charles Barkley and Wyatt Russell (11-16-18)

"It's all about me. Dan, patrick. There is more where that came from click back for new episodes all week long. Want entertainment designed just for you, then checkout. Customizable, streaming TV from expanding it makes your life simple easy. Awesome. Expended? He gives you, customizable, streaming TV options. Enjoy the most ratios anywhere on any device and even access your streaming apps. Right on your TV with x one. Go to CNN dot com. Call one eight hundred Finnity or visit a store today. To learn more restrictions apply. Broadcasting from the LA Mercedes men K. This is Dan Patrick power to on his Friday. Dan NS Dan Patrick show. Charles Barkley will. Join us coming up head some things to say about the Golden State Warriors as they move forward. Trying to keep Kevin Durant in a Golden State uniform. Also, we'll talk to the actor white Russell he stomps by Gada starring role in overlord. Kevin Frazier from entertainment tonight will join us and the MVP of the Milwaukee Brewers Christian yelich will join us coming up as well. Eight seven seven three DP show, Email address DP, Dan, Patrick dot com. Twitter handle at DP show. We recap the Packers Seahawks last night. And it's not a pretty picture here. I got best case scenario for the Packers. They end up eight seven and one I don't know if that's enough to get into the playoffs. It doesn't look like that. But you know, you got you gotta get six wins in a row to get the ten and the schedule there's some there's some easier games. In there. It just there's a disconnect that's going on there. You don't get that. Same feeling when Rogers told everybody to our E L A X. Yes. Mclovin yet. I forgotten that was at one and two show early in the season that really that big a deal. Now, we look back on it. Yeah. And then Rogers was hit with this question last night. And it's not a fair question. And you could tell by Rogers response about how much hope is left over. This is. What kind of question is that? I don't even know how to answer that. I mean, come on my supposed to say, of course, there's hope of course, we believe in each other. I was just gonna take one galvanizing moment. So whether that's a speech or practice or some apples in the game sums categorize thing going. I thought I thought we had moments tonight. We're that was the way we're going the defense injuries offensively relaxed Jimmy guys battle so nobody gave up you know, we just didn't play well enough when we had to play while enough. Yeah. It's not a fair question. What do you think he's going to say, no we have? No hope even if he thought that had no hope he can't say that with this much football left to be played. And there is hope in that division. You could still win that division. Yes. Mclovin. What do you think? I notice has a lot of players and coaches are calling the reporter by answering the reporter by the first name. I'm hearing that all the time Rogers. Did it twice right? Hey, rob. Rob the Moskvy. Hey, paul. All is in polish words. I allot coaches are doing that. Now, do you think they're calling them out? They all I think they're trying. I don't know what I think they're messing with them. I don't get it. What does it you know, Aaron Rodgers a little bit? Like, I I always thought that if somebody said your name now, there's certain athletes who would say your name, but they would say at many many many times like Alex Rodriguez would always say, Dan, it would just say your name gambling you and you can look this up. Pretty quick psychologists say you do that to humanize yourself to the other person to ingratiate yourself where the up it makes the other person think while he's talking right to me. And and you will may make you back down and be more friendly to that person. Yes, fritzy, we have a friend of yours on the line. That is ready to stand by lots of Charles Berkeley NBA on TNT. What's up Charles? I'm good. How you doing? I'm good. I saw where you started up a little bit last night where you talked about Golden State and Durant, and they wouldn't be a dynasty without him and shack chimed in a little bit here. So. You've had some time to think about it. And you really believe that they wouldn't be a dynasty and Golden State if they didn't have Kevin Durant, Dan, anybody knows anything about basketball. No that have Durant. Lease. They'll be a good little team. But they won't be he made them dynasty. And they're on a lot of pressure. You know, they moved into the brand new building next year, and they need. Kevin Durant was like what did side with Kevin Durant because they need Kevin Durant. Each one who made them a dynasty. And so it's it's a lot of pressure on that whole organization, but why is Draymond green reportedly saying to Kevin Durant? We don't need you. We won without you leave like at what gets what gets him to that point of of a guy that you know, you need if you're gonna win championships. The Draymond green is saying that to Kevin Durant. Well, first of all, I don't really believe that number one. I wanna to be. I think he just said it in the moment. But let's you hear all these guys be will be making up these stories. They want us to believe that once one going into overtime that dream on says you need to make it feel mantle free agency. I don't believe that at all. Dan. They won't have to think that in the mill of about the ball game at Annaba game is getting ready to go to overtime three months. Hey, you need to make your model for agency. I don't believe that at all. Suspended, charles. What what did he get suspended for because they know that they got appeased? Kevin durant? That's what that's what makes it then nobody gets spending. When teammates get the fighting in cadet happens at least once a week with teammates get him to a or coach somebody yells at a coach. And you say things you regret to reason. They it a dream on is because they know that dynasty if Kevin Durant lease is gonna come to in and people got to realize they're going to that brand new big building next year Betschart in twenty thousand dollars a seat on the front role. People don't wanna stay. They wanna see a team as a judge down. Once a team. That's pretty good. That's why suspended remind did the warriors. Make it worse by suspending Draymond green. Well, I think great question, Dan. I think I think they talk between a rock and a hard place. They've got to look at their team this year, and they've got to look at the future. So I that's a great question. I don't know the exact Asser. But I think what they did was like you'll man you can't make this dude mad. He's the reason we're dynasty. And we lose him. We'll just have a good team. We won't be favorites to win the championship every year. And I am so I'm I don't think Durant stays at Golden State. But I've thought that for quite some time. Now, I'm just curious where he would end up, and I know Stephen a Smith said the Lakers or the Knicks. I don't know if Durant would help LeBron achieve even greater success by going to the Lakers to help him meal. Maybe when a couple of titles instead of maybe doing something unique like going to the New York Knicks what what is the best destination. Do you think if he doesn't stay Golden State? Well, you know, Dan, I don't know down to that. I mean, these guys are totally changed. Now, it started will LeBron's going going to Miami. So everybody just looking to stack their teams now dominate. So I don't know the answer to that question. You know, you know, we all hate it. When Kevin went to the warriors. Because is actually, hey, we're going to see happen is really funny and everybody don't want to go back. And look at depends. Like man, what why is he going to the warriors that's gonna make your mom beatable? And they've been unbelievable. So, but these guys now what would you do together? But would you do I want to stay in Oklahoma City? That's my okay. But now, what would you do if your dream? You know? That's a great question. I think I think he knows he knows that the warriors goes go see 'cause at some point money matters at some point money matters into the warriors. They're like, well, we gotta get clay to max probably this summer. Dan, we gotta get Kevin imacs. Then next year, we got a patriot mind like at some point you can't pay everybody. I mean, you know, I I know they're in a luxury trash hole. But can you imagine the like putting another three to four hundred million dollars in a luxury tax? I mean at some point you do have to have some financial commonsense. Where do you think Carmelo ends up? I don't even know what's a great place for him. Then to be honest with you the way he like he didn't he he wants to play the way he played five seven years ago when he 'isolation given the ball, and he doesn't have those skills anymore. So I'm not sure what the perfect place for him. Right now, you know, 'cause like I say, you know, he complained like, no he started laughing last year when they like we want you to come off the bench, you know, down when you get older as a player you have to make concessions plane as simple, you're not the same player. They like it was ten years ago in New York, we just give you the ball. And let you go on when you were a great, and he was agreed offensive player. Not teams aren't gonna play like that in a more. So it's gonna be interesting where he decides to go also wanted to ask you about the Duke freshman that you know, we see these kids, and I mean. They're men certainly with Zion Williamson. But you you see what how he plays? Now. What translates to the NBA? Do you think was ion Williamson? Can he be that kind of player in the NBA? I don't know, Dan. Because I don't know what position he plays. You know? I that's that's going to be the key. And you hear these guys talking about well the NBA's position Louis. Yeah. It's somewhat position lists. But some of these guys are still six ten sixty seven. So at one point he's going to play those other guys on the other end of the court. So number one is way more explosive than I was I wonder what his real high is you know, because all these college players LA about their height. So I wonder how tall he really is. But I think the biggest thing going to be what position is going to play in the pros because he's a terrific terrific talent. But he has to guard people on the other end could he got threes out on the floor? Can't he got a sixteen guy in the post? I mean, there's two people always talk about one end of the corporate as two ends of the court house. He gonna figure house you gotta play against somebody big. Oh, guys, you're going to have to play against. Yeah. I mean, he's the play against these somebody's college players. But then be hey, we got some players. I'm just curious about his weight if he weighs this is a freshman. Right. I mean, you dealt with this is he going to be able to be this kind of player at three hundred to eighty five right now. Well, I think the difference. Like, you know, when people talk about me and him like my weight was fat though. When I went from three hundred to two fifty my weight was fat. Wait. I don't think he's got sad. Wait on him. I think he is physically physically amazing gifted. So like, I say, I don't I I don't know if it's possible for him to lose twenty five pounds like it was easy for me to lose fifty pounds. I was fat but him like I have to sit. I'd have to look at his body up close. But he doesn't look it looks amazing. But like I say, I don't think he's a guy who gonna lose twenty thirty pounds. I don't think is there. I also saw that you guys you and Ernie are going to be working the match with tiger. And phil. What what role you play? Good question. What do you know about golf while know, everything about golf? I mean, that's easy. I mean office man, I watch more golf than probably anybody in the world. I'm addicted to the golf channel. I mean, I'm not I mean, I'm not good at golf for this for just the terminology and hidden cuts, and fades and hooks and draws and dean back that that's very easy. But they asked me in order to do something. And I listen, I'm not a good team player and do something in Vegas. All right. Who wants to win more? Do you think between tiger and Phil? Great question from an ego standpoint. I don't think you can decide for that. I think they both want to win just from eagles standpoint because they had this robbery, and, you know, tiger wood tiger first of all I think Tigers degreed is golf who ever lived. He used to vote, and it's just been exciting watching him play this year because he bought excitement back took off. I'm able to ton of excitement back to golf. It was awesome to watch. And I think that he wants to win just to keep his domination going his confidence. Also, I think feel wants to beat him. So I don't really know the answer to that question. I'm looking forward to it. It's gonna be awesome. I mean, it's going to be awesome. I mean, you get two of the greatest whoever did their thing. You got the greatest whoever did and tiger. I think it's gonna be awesome. In the watch on a who's just motto motto who's gonna talk more trash between those two field is more natural at trash talking. I think that's what he probably has. I think he has the advantage as far as he's a lot more social, you know, one advantage. You had the tiger head. That's not going to be a crowd on the golf course. There's no fans invited to the golf course. So he can't interact with fans and feel can interact with fans and talk trash and have fun like that. So that's a disadvantage for him. But like I say because when I played I played that golf course like actually a couple of weeks ago, there's no room for fans out there. So feel can't just joke around with fans and Tigers personality, he's a lot more laid back and low key. So I think feel has advantages for his talking trash because there's more natural to him. He's the more. He's more fun guy to joke with wouldn't it be great? If they started wrestling like in the ninth. Airway like a county started going at each other. And who would who would you have if it's Philip guys who can't fight? So it would be a boring. Little slap fast. 'cause I I I don't think neither one of them either. Neither I'm not sure what word I would use. I don't think either neither has ever been in a fight in their life ever. Either. One of them. Right. Go out on a limb. Neither one of those guys have ever been in a real fight in their life. I would back that too. I. Been on a fight in their life. Maybe you could ask that to them when you and Ernie or they're part of this winner take all Friday after thanksgiving. Maybe that's a quick. We got Sam Jackson and Pat harass going to be they're also Samuel Samuel L. Jackson and pepper is. I think is going to be doing. I mean, obviously, we're not gonna be serious golf announcers. I like, I don't know. There's extent of my role. But listen, I'm just going at a half on. That's all that's all. It could be. If I said, you gotta put a week's pay on who will win. Well, I would bet on feel because last time I saw the odds it was like one fifty. So you got to I'm not going bad a fit to I'm not I wanna bet I want him going with the art. So tiger is pretty heavily favorite. So from commonsense standpoint, I would take feel just because of the odds. Well, thanks for joining us as always and have fun out there in Las Vegas and stay away from the the crap table and all that stuff, right? You know that sounds like an oxymoron half on in Las Vegas. And they'll go gamble. Dan. There's a hundred percent chance I'm done again. But when I'm in Vegas a hundred percent, we'll say Hello. And goodbye to your money from me. Okay. Hey, brother. Gammons Gama's a fifty fifty proposition either gonna win or you're gonna lose fifty fifty. I'll take those odds. Thank you, Charles. You guys have a great thanksgiving. Here you to Charles Barkley Friday after thanksgiving, you got tiger and Phil, and it's winner take all nine million dollar prize. Take advantage of your direct TV subscription. Tune into the match it's live on pay per view for nineteen ninety nine. So for twenty dollars. You'll have unprecedented. 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I don't agree with him that you know, the warriors are just going to be another little cute team after Kevin Durant leaves. If Durant goes to the Lakers. Okay. Then the Lakers have gotten a, you know, incredibly better. But Golden State will still be a good team. Yeah. I think if Durant goes to the east, then Golden State would still be the team to beat out west at least for the next couple of years. If you're keeping everybody together. Yes, mclovin. Switching the poll to with the warriors be the favourite without Kevin Durant next year. I could do that. How do people vote on the Aaron Rodgers has air Rogers career been disappointing? Fifty four percent said no that's pretty close to fifty fifty. There are a lot of people do Tim in Milwaukee joins us this morning. Hi, tim. What do you have for me? Hey, ten five foot ten two hundred pounds. I don't blame it on our Rogers by blame it on McCarthy with his bad play calling. Look if you got one guy davonte Adams, you let Jordy Nelson goal. I mean, something's gotta give with Mike McCarthy. Top of that. Maybe even Ted Thomson. I don't know how to go about. 'cause I'm built that hard. Green Bay Packer fan. I stick to need it through something with Mike McCarthy. Well, they're going to they're going to. But some of this is on Aaron Rodgers, thanks for the phone call. They're not getting rid of Aaron Rodgers. But they do have weapons I do believe they have they found their running back. I'm not I haven't been sold on Jimmy Graham for years. I think he has those moments, but he just gets nicked up, but Davante Adams is a great receiver. And you have you know, some of these younger kids they're trying to integrate into the offense. But. I can put the blame on McCarthy last night on four th in two. I would have put the ball. If my season was on the line, which I believe it was last night. I would've put the ball in the hands of Aaron Rodgers fourth and chew with four minutes to go. I'm getting I'm getting go down in flames. If we if we lose we're going down with my best player with the ball in his hands. Yes. It does seem like you could sell that Moore. Russell Wilson with that offense. The best ball control offense right now in the league. He like you said if he goes to the fan saying I believe in Aaron there it's off him. Nobody is going to criticize Mike McCarthy today if he says to Aaron Rodgers go ahead, you have one time out and you're going to give the ball to Seattle. Seattle's been running it down your throat all night long. I I always want the best player to have the ball. No matter what you know, if the seasons on the line the games on the line. I want the best player to have the ball. And you took the the ball out of the best player. Couple of things here. Mookie Betts and Christian yelich where the MVP in their respective. Of leagues. I'm also wondering, you know, Mike, trout finished second again, that's the fourth time in his career that he has done that. He's finished in the top four in the MVP in seven straight seasons. That's time. Yogi Berra for the longest streak all time. And the one vote that Christian yelich did not get for MVP and the nationally. Jacob degrom got it. I saw will blonde go off on pardon the interruption where he didn't think the Jacob degrom should have won it. He's like, I'm a win loss guy. I went all right, Mike. I you know, that I'm glad you're one loss got nobody pitched better than Jacob degrom this year, but you know, to try to figure out what that value is. That's where wilpon he hates the analytics but ten years ago. Jacob degrom does not win the MVP not because of analytics, that's why won the MVP. Now. He was the best pitcher. But I think you have to do a deep dive on all those numbers where you truly realize. This guy was incredible this year, absolutely remarkable. And the fact that yeah, he won ten games. He was still the best pitcher in baseball. I don't know if anybody would argue that any of the pitchers you could ask. Now, there's there's some disagreement in the American League on Snell winning it from Tampa Verlinden thought he should want. Trevor Bauer had a spreadsheet had a PowerPoint where he's trying to point out to the writers I deserve to be the MVP or the Cy Young winner. So I I liked it. You know campaign for yourself there. Yes. Mclovin. Mookie Mookie Betts is war out of control. Dan. I know not even more. I don't raise, you know. He's your guy antiwar. And I the pacifist light is it. Good for absolutely nothing. All right. White. Russell is an actor. He's in overlord. It's in theaters now, you're getting great reviews for that. You can also stream the first season of lodge forty nine on demand and on AMC premier and he joins us now in the man cave. I think he might be the first guest we've had who's come in with flip flops on but come on up on a plane is he makes way. Good to see you. He's the son of Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn. Oh, I'm sure you don't get tired of hearing that do you? Yeah. Never. Yeah. This is my favorite show on television on serious. Really? Yeah. Because every morning wakeup routine. I like my routine, I get my coffee take the dogs out. And I put on the shop to me. This is like I think my my dream job. Thank you guys have it. Now, it's the world's greatest thing whose role would you want though, you got mclovin. Fritzy, Seton, paulie, where are you going for the big share here? I every day it changes. But the, you know, look, I'd wanna be wanna be you, Dan, you're going to go for the throne. I want to go to work my way up from the bottom. Okay. Yeah. But yeah, I'll go. Yeah. I'm going for the throat and thrown my own some weird little web web the sewed world. Maybe one day you played hockey. So you have to go into the junior's you have to go into the miners all of those things you went to Europe. Yeah. I did all that. It was the world's greatest experience had never change it for anything. I got hurt when I was twenty five twenty four couldn't play anymore really happy that happened. Would you? If you didn't get hurt would you've got into acting. No, no, I wouldn't have. I I probably would have because if I wouldn't have gotten hurt that means you're end in thirty four thirty five minutes, and and at that point like what are my marketable skills? Not hockey. So I don't have. I didn't I was really happy that when it happened. I I I was young enough to go. I'll jump with two feet and not think about anything to worry about. I got knowing Zayed's. I got no responsibility. I'll just do it. I didn't hockey. And I thought like if it worked at work, and if it doesn't it doesn't. What did you say? When you say I want to be a professional goalie. They will. Well when I first started playing goal. My dad did not want me to play goal. He was like do not play goalie. Please don't play goal. Just go and have fun. And you're going to be a baseball player. Anyway. So it doesn't matter like you're going to be a catcher you're gonna hit you know, to seventy and you're going to be in the big leagues. His that was his thing because my whole family. We're baseball players. I just didn't like it as much. So when when I said, I really really really wanted to play goal and he realized I was serious about it. There was a guy here named Constantine. And yeah, who was he's from the Ukraine and he played on he played on the Red Army. He came over in the ninety s when the wall fell and in van Nuys is a ring called Iceland. It's like the worst place you've ever been in your entire life. We used to get dressed in a in a in a trailer like a tractor trailer and and the ice rink. I'm not kidding. His almost as big as this. Him and he would slash and hit like, you know, stick between your legs and like growing in. Yeah. In the in the in the bad area while you're getting slapped shots out you and he would take out of ten. He's hitting you in the five hole. Yeah. When I was ten years old because because point being was that like, I we had he had social services called on a kit on us while we were practising by another mom and my dad was there like Nana Tono. No, wait. This is your southern California in nineteen ninety six ninety seven. And like hockey wasn't a big thing. Then here now, it is now it's hockey actually pretty a big big sport and reasonably so, and but she they didn't understand like, no when you go and you wanna play hockey like, you're bad things are going to happen. And you're gonna have to learn how to play through them. And that was Constantine. Was was great at that. And they. No, he he he was he was big part in my life. Best hockey movie of all time. Gotta be slapshot. It's got be relate to any of that. Oh my God. You kidding me? Every. I mean, every character every aspect of every piece of even to the point where I mean, I for me it was way crazier in some respects. But when I went to Holland, they you're on the phone with your agent and they'd go. I'll go anywhere. I'll go I was playing hockey in Germany at the time, and I just wanted to like get a job somewhere. So they call me and say you got to you got a team in Groningen wants you to play. Okay, great. You're out you're on a plane the next day. So I get droning. It's exactly what I expected it's Europe, and there's cobblestone streets, and there's like a ship in the back that like cells pancakes house, like, this is awesome. This is exactly what I want. And I walk up the stairs. And I'm they've put me in a drug, Dan that's from living. I'm here like this. Minor professional sports used to it the guy who's my roommate comes in the it's a I mean, it's truly a drug down because harm who's my room. Roommate invites me out for dinner. I'm like, I'll go to the attic, and I'll harm will cook, me, sausage and potatoes. And is my first night, and I get up there. And he's room is like covered in newspaper. It's all in Dutch. And he's got this cat running around and Frank who's a Rwandan refugee is also my other roommate in the attic, and I'm like, I'm not sure if what's legal, and what's not and the cat as we're eating the sausage and potatoes bureau was that his name probably harms about probably seventy and looks about one hundred and fifteen and and the cat jumps on me. And he gets his he gets his nails in me. And I'm like God, I pull the cat off. And he goes he starts losing his mind. This guy's nuts. And I'm like, whoa. Stop go easy. And and then he stops. He picks up a Bobby pin. He goes, and he stabs his arm of the Bobby pin? And he's dragging his arm down there. And he picks up a rag to pick it up, and I see all of his drug paraphernalia underneath this rag. And like where am I what did I do like what this is insane decide to get into acting? Yeah. Exactly. That was my first. But that's that was what was great about. It was great about professional sports for the way. I love the guy. He became a friend of mine, and I use a great guy. But it was it was that was the kind of experiences that you can't get anywhere else. That was why you never change it. You know, he's white Russell the actor overlord is in theaters now also the first season of lodge forty nine on demand and on AMC premier Iran into Adam Sandler last night. Sandler goes. You're having wide on. I said, yeah, he goes. I bought. Yes. Your your parents house? Yes. Yes. So that was across the wait Goldie Hawn and Kurt Russell lived across the street from each other. And then they got married is that how this works. And then Sandler bought never married that they're they're never married. Okay. They're not married. Very proudly not married. Okay. They we moved to Vancouver. We moved out of our house. I'm fifteen to Vancouver to play hockey. They didn't want to lose that part of my life. They lived there for a year and a half when they did they sold their bigger home. They got a smaller house across the street. There was actually my my brother, and my best friend John Stalberg, then they lived in that house for awhile Sandler bought the house from them when we moved. So we became like next door neighbors. Yeah. He's a great, dude. Yes. I I guess I'm gonna say about the Aaron Rodgers thing. Okay. Oh, all righty say. All right. Here's a hot take hot take. This is how you audition for my job. Thank you. Okay. There are two positions in sports that matter as much as the other one of them is a quarterback and the other is a goalie because because a goaltender can actually steal you Gaines. Yes, you can actually win a game. You can you Jay sugar almost one literally single handedly won the Anaheim ducks that championship. And like oh four I think it was. And and the same thing with a quarterback you have the ball in your hands every single play and attitude that comes from the quarterback is unbelievably almost as important. Sometimes I would argue as what you can do with the football because they never Broncos fan. Tim tebow? Change the organization in my opinion. He took who is the the quarterback before Tibo that you came in the guy that was like Orden, Jordan, Kyle Laura Dern was fine. But he couldn't make something happen. Couldn't make magic happen. Tim Chievo wasn't very good. But he could make magic happen and made it organization believe in winning. He they made him believe in victory. Even though it was like, everyone was laughing at it. And then they kicked him to the curb and brought in Peyton Peyton Manning. But without that season. I argue you go, but three and fourteen thirteen or whatever Tim Tiba somehow managed every game. I remember watching me like ours is happening. And this magic surrounding this football team you bring in Peyton Manning after they've won a super a playoff game. And then they go when when a Super Bowl the couple of years later, and I argue is because of position and how that person is. And I think you know, Aaron Rodgers is you gotta have that personality. And I don't know. I don't know if I don't know if he does you don't know if Roger says if he has that personality of that Tom Brady like I'm a world, beater personality. I'm Tom Brady has a I'm going to beat everybody. No matter what like I think he has it in his head and his brand. It's who he is. I don't know if Aaron Rodgers seems like the type of guy seems more like me, I'm not that guy. I wouldn't be the guy to to to land a franchise quarterback on. I wouldn't be even if I had the most talented world they'd be like, I just don't I just wanna go poem sometime. You could play the stone. Or buddy of the star quarterback is what you could do s. I'd be I'd be the world's worst. I'd be Aaron Rodgers worst. Infants. I know you didn't come in to promote overlord, but you're getting great reviews with the role there. Yeah. It's great. It's like, it's a really fun movie. It's got zombies in it. You have to now everybody's got som-. Everybody's got zombies. It's a really different taken a World War Two film. It's a blast. I think that like it's worth your thirteen fourteen bucks or whatever like to go see a movie, you don't feel like he got ripped off. And I I love it. I think it's really fun. What else are we going to ask you? I was going to. What was it? Paulie that. I was I was gonna ask you about country music, though. I know you're a big country. Joel Simpson's big big big part of my life. Yes. Oh, Sarah is my favorite. So. Yes. It's a great struggle. Simpson. Can can he's different. He's he's different. He he he's not your typical Nashville country. No, he he he like in my job. I think in everybody's in your job and my job. It's all very similar. They all have similarities that like I think run through the genes of the job, you do it your own way. And you find out how good you are by doing it your own way. And if it's an, and that's the only way that you can really get good at anything. Right. It's I think it's really the only way it's a good at hockey. It's the only way this insert all Simpson to me has a way of speaking to music fans, and and going like flipping them off at the same time embracing them with a hug, and I to me, it's I I love funniest Simpsons story. I was. I was going fishing in Colorado. We go we spend half the year in Colorado or as much as we can brother was living there. We're going fly-fishing. We're coming back like eight nine o'clock. It's getting dark brace. For impact is a song. I've always like skip over as like listen to like, you know, another song it came on. And I was like I'll stay on the back road door houses very dark brace. For impact comes on like fifteen seconds later, an elk appears in front of my truck like just like boom didn't have time to put the brakes on and for impact killed it. And then I got my brother, and I put it in the back of the truck, and they actually like eight it when skin we feel dressed it in eighth yell, then that could be the music video. I think he's more about love and connecting and not like as much like carnage and death. Well, good luck with the acting career. Thanks, man. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for being a fam-. He's white Russell overlords in theaters now also use in log forty nine on demand. Thank you. All right. We're back after this on the Dan Patrick show these days news travels fast, which is great. If you're a sports fan between status updates breaking news. 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And if you're not you're not familiar with his parents Gogel them, but Goldie Hawn is his mom and Kurt Russell. And kurt. Russell was bully. And he was one of the childhood actors a series of Disney, Phil he was great. But he wanted to be a baseball player and we had him. I don't know ten or twelve years ago, and we talked I said would you rather have your career or Steve garvey's career? And he was like, oh, boy, I don't know. But he's had a pretty pretty decorated decorated career, and I'm ever Goldie Hawn on Laffin if you ever saw those videos than Goldie Hawn was the first girl, I'm trying to think I I hope why it's outta here. So he's not hearing me talk about his mom, but I just remember seeing Goldie Hawn on TV and she had her bathing suit bikini on laugh in the show. And I went what's going on here. Peter brady. I always made she's still very beautiful woman. But I remember Goldie Hawn was I think one of the first women I saw on TV, and I went so what what's going on here. 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Death Becomes Her

The Bechdel Cast

1:22:30 hr | Last month

Death Becomes Her

"Hey everybody today's episode is sponsored by the New Mazda C X Thirty you know Robert this past December when I was out in California for the Mazda things. So I got a chance to try out the X. Thirty on a road trip from palm desert to San Diego and I was riding along with someone all you listeners might know miles grave from our cousin podcasts the daily Zeitgeist. Uh so miles and I each took a turn driving through the mountains along the way and we both got. To experience the terrain the awesome occasionally Olympics Mons like desert landscape the those mountains in southern California. Really something else is beautiful country, but we got to do it as both driver and the passenger since we traded off in about halfway through, and we also got a great feel for the features that make the Mazda C X thirty really stand out in its class. You can check out the new theory yourself at Mazda USA, dot com slash Iheart, or see it in person at your local Mazda dealership. Have, you had that dream where you're trying to take your business remote and it's super confusing. But then you hear bondage ad for their team remote experts that you can just call and they can put a plan together to your business can easily work from anywhere and on top of that the even sort you out with a video API that you can use to build video into your apps and websites have you ever had that dream? Well no that's an actual real thing that you can do. You don't need to get into REMM sleep to make your business communication dreams come. True. All you need to do is call. Now talking. On the Cast questions asked movies have women are all the discussions boyfriends and husbands or do they have individualism Patriarchy's Ethin- vast start changing with Dell? Hello and welcome to the Bechtel cast my name's Jamie Loftus my name's Caitlin. Durante and this is our podcast about, yeah. ooh Fee and intersectional look at our favorite movies and your favorite movies not always our favorite movie sometimes movies we hate. Eight other types of movies we loved but not this one not today's movies. Okay. So we are so pity members of our Patriot AK matron will recognize this as a previous maitree unreleased episode we are unlocking and episode to get you all hyped up for a horror in October this year. So we're unlocking our death becomes her episode, and one of the reasons we're doing that because we have been really busting our asses getting the horror movies together for this year and it's GonNa. Be An amazing. October, we've got the descent. We've got us. We've got a girl walks home alone at night we've got what's the fourth Pan's labyrinths. For it yeah. There we have an amazing October lined up for you mostly directors we have uncovered before. So look forward to that, and this is just a fun episode. Yes, and one of our shorter ones we've been releasing like two hour episodes lately in this one clocks pretty pretty short. So give ourselves too much of a pat on the back, but listeners will know we live in southern California and the air is batteries. So fact that we are recording to episodes that have enough you know. It's It's a miracle. It's a miracle that we're still producing a podcast in this economy. Can you imagine? Oh Yeah. So so we are unlocking a matron episode today but as an extra treat four our matrons. If, you're already a member or if you don't know our matriarch and gives you to bonus episodes a month with just caitlin and myself talking about movies on I'd weird theme that we pick that never makes sense theme. You mean amazing incredible outstanding theme that everybody loves all the time. Right now it's it September, which is Driven sports movies with it in the title that's your name for it. I ever or is sport timber it, which is the same thing female driven sports movies with it in the title but stick with it. But in any case, what we for five bucks a month, you can get all of those episodes third I think almost eighty bonus full length bonus episodes in our matriarch. And this is only this is one of the first ones we've ever unlocked, but for a bonus on top of the bonus. For Our matrons this month we're also going to be unlocking are titanic live read that we did to benefit junior high l. a. last month of. One of I think the collapse of the century, some of your favorite guests and US reading the entire script from titanic it's a it's four hours long so long it's longer than the movie guests like Princess Weeks who was on the show just last week Maggie may fish. Lindsay Alice can use mobely who's going to be on the show next week there's just we so many wonderful guests and more and so we'll be unlike not for our matrons and one last plug before we get into the show. We, had so much fun doing a live read with with everybody and I think it was over three hundred listeners that were with us that night. Watching in like interacting with us live, we're going to be doing it again next Friday September twenty. Four the movie. Wait for it why? We're doing live radio twilight I like to call it a live reading slash roasting alive bloodsucking. To celebrate Robert Pattinson 's recovery from covid nineteen. We're reading twilight No, but we we are. We are going to be reading it. tickets will be live today or tomorrow. So keep your eye on our social media. For that there's going to be donation based way to do it because we are benefitting a local candidate that we are really excited about in. Our area named Fatima Ball. Zubeir she is running for state representative against an incumbent cop and she's amazing and we love her so much. So will be listing information on how to get access to that broadcast, which will be on the twenty fifth on our social media. Basically, you'll donate to Fatima send us the receipt. We'll get you the link. It's easy. And you know we're GonNa be I'm going to be Edward. Kaelin can be Bella it is what it is I can't believe. I'M GONNA, buy a wig I think and our guests are going to be on a host. Charene, Lana Eunice, Kerama Danquah, and future guests on the show just Merwin. So it is going to be simply time. You will be posting about it incessantly, but we wanted to let you know about it now. So yeah keep your eye out for that indeed, and then one last thing about this episode in particular since we we recorded it we released it about a year ago if I'm not mistaken for last October. Yes. So you might have noticed in recent months where UNIN ongoing pursuit an effort to eliminate any language from our vocabulary that is ablest and disparaging of mental illness, and this is we're talking like pretty common stuff that is still very widely used expressions like and I'm going to say them to let you know maybe what you should also try to eliminate from your vocabulary vocabulary. So things like that's crazy. Or that was insane or even like that's so dumb things like that. Yeah. The phrase stupid as wilder there's so many common phrases that are rooted in just a bigoted statements against those experiencing mental illness and those with disabilities. Yeah. We we've kind of been on an ongoing education process for ourselves as well. Clearly, this is stuff we've learned and begun implementing into our lives in the last year. So we we're also going to include a link in our description where you can learn more about that and more about the origin of these common phrases that are actively harmful. Yes. That's what we wanted to acknowledge that because there are a few uses of language like this in the episode because it was prior to us being aware of this. So does it has that for that indeed, and with that I guess let's get into death becomes her the best body horror. Movie of all time. Yeah let's drink are potions that will make us live forever but also grumble and. Turned is you know women's bodies are terrifying? That's what I learned from this movie. We talk about it and the upset but we but. If. This is your first episode of the vegetal caused welcome. We look at movies that have had an impact on the world using sexual feminist lens using the Bechtel test as a jumping off point for discussion but Caitlin I don't remember embattled says is Your by me you say that as a joke but I, honestly in the past like couple of weeks especially, I'm real like my memory doesn't work anymore I couldn't. I can't remember the batteries in the air we're breathing battery acid like it. Yeah. Horrible. I don't like I. I'm off topic already, but I mean, this may be passes the Bechtel test but I was like trying to think of my stand up jokes recently and I'm like I can't remember any of my standup jokes. I can't remember the names of places I used to go like. I. Yeah. It. It. Yeah I was remember I was like, oh. Yeah. Ideally best case scenario where we will have to remember her chokes some point. Terrifying I. Have also been truly I mean especially like extra and love to all of our listeners on the American west coast because. It's it's tough right now, and if you're able to do mutual aid throughout this please do but we're just reduced Th- really the worst of times I can't remember I was like I you WanNa fun, little anecdote. We told them what the Bechtel. If you're squeamish may be fast forward fifteen seconds. I was walking seven eleven yesterday bravely went outside and got so nauseated by the air that I throw up in my little mask had to turn around. No. Salary God I. Yeah. I've been having a nonstop headache for probably the past like six days now. It's really awful. It's bad So what is the vitamins? And I think all of that puking in your mask passes the. Past. So that's that's another example of it is you know not flawed metric. But yes that whole conversation I believe past the Bechtel test because of the Bechtel test is a media metric, originally developed and created by Queer cartoonist alison. Bechtel sometimes called the Bechtel Wallace test and it requires that for our purposes we have made some adjustments to test also another recent development of ours but our newest version of the test is to people of any marginalized gender must have names must speak to each other about something other than a SYS man so that it is the test I my brain damn pass. It's complicated. So, we use that to inspire the premise of the show, and then we dive into a much deeper conversation about representation in intersection -ality, and inclusivity, and you know Goldie Hawn and Meryl Streep Different at different times. So Yes we're excited to share this episode. We hope you enjoy it and a reminder if you enjoy these episodes with just being caitlyn, it's a little looser we're goofing around or if you're just running out of episodes of the bike, Lacasse on our main feed head over to the matriarch on five bucks a month, two bonus episodes and As of today, you can watch the titanic stream as well. So enjoy the rest of the opposite enjoyed. Etc.. Jamie, what's your history with the film hadn't seen it but about you I had only seen it for the first time about a year ago. Okay. It was not at all on my radar until we started the PODCAST and started getting requests yeah as I and I intentionally did not do a ton of research going into the viewing experience which I'm glad because it is such a wild ride what a wild ride. But Yeah I saw I watched it about a year ago, and then we just watched it together. And now we're ready to talk about it. I'm excited there's there's there's a lot going on. Some of that, I love some of it you know we just have to. Have the podcast and it's it's a beloved movie. It's got a cult following. What a roller coaster right film it is. So the story if I may please do thank you so much. We meet Madeline Ashton Merrill. Street. Mauka, we. Take a hard left on take. To. Meryl Streep One of our weaker persistent jokes. Disagree Okay I know what you're right. You're right. You're right. When you're right you're right. she is an actor, a musical theater performer but people don't like her anymore because they think she is old and has lost her touch. But there is one person who does still love her not is ernest. Men Ville Bruce Willis character as a great bruce was rule the role of a lifetime I would say, Oh yeah, oh. Yeah. He is a cosmetic surgeon and the fiance of Helen Sharp which is called Hawn. Who is a friend of me? Of Madeleine's? She's a writer to writer which Madeleine really undermines. She's like. Are you still doing that writing thing right? which is you know personally triggering shows. Sure. And then Helen's all like Oh my God ernest you don't like Madeleine do you and he's like, no, I have no interest in her whatsoever cuts to. Do. I'm getting married. This is the campus movie. With a fifty, five, million dollar budget that's ever been filmed. It's Okay I I would welcome contenders and consume them happily league. Sure. This is a very expensive camp movie, right? Then we cut to seven years later and Helen has gained weight and she is now a crazy cat lady. She's vacuum Vasic trope oh? Yeah we'll talk. Hate it. She is affected from her apartment she's institutionalized and she's completely obsessed with Madeleine Ashton's demise right and then she felt flash forward seven years again right and madeline and earnest's marriage is not healthy. He's an alcoholic. He is no longer a plastic surgeon at least like not for living people right he instead now makes corpses look presentable for their funerals A. Then, Madeleine receives an invitation from Helen for Helen's Book Party. And Madeleine wants to look her best for the event. So she goes in for a treatment to get rejuvenated and guy there tells madeleine about Liezl, Von Rumen Aka as Avella. she can help, but he is weird. So Madeleine ignores him right. Then she goes to Helen's event and surprise Goldie Hawn has taken off the fat suit and she is a successful writer and Madeline is not handling this well so she decides to. Go to Lisa von Romans Place Castle. And she sells madeline a potion that will reverse the aging process. You'll love it and it works and her body tightens up and her face looks younger in some of the most I mean there's so much I. Think Spectacular Body Horror. This movie and This is just the beginning Oh. Yes. Yes. Meanwhile. Helen has gone to Ernest to seduce him and sabotage his relationship with Madeline, and she proposes a plan where they drug and kill Madeleine but make it look like an accident. And Madeleine returns home and she and Ernest get into an argument, and then he pushes her down the stairs and I truly I found and I. You know I need to watch this movie more but I found the moment where Meryl Streep is rocking back and forth defying gravity on the stairs where like is she going to follow not to be the most profound moment of the movie because I think this movie basically boils down to women verses the forces of gravity over time. because. It is at the movie about aging right and like was I because this is like a pretty solid creative team like I wonder if someone was thinking that because it is just like women versus gravity is a big. Central Voice in it. That's my little thought. What a brilliant thought. Jamie. Much. Aw I did my best on that one. Anyway so yeah, they've gotten into an argument. There screaming at each other, they're calling each other nasty names. He is strangling her and then he pushes her down the stairs and she breaks her neck and then Ernest Calls Helen, freaking out and they're trying to figure out what to do an as they're talking through it. madeleine gets up off the floor because she's taken this potion she didn't die even though her head is on backwards now right which is not easy to look at the whatever affects they did to accomplish that particular image. Is Troubling and scary weird being so. We're we're Lu- like diplomatic about it like it is not easy. To. View with your eyeballs. It just isn't. I mean they did the best with what they could in ninety what was it to ninety two low see I think it looks like a little too close to real. This won an academy award for visual. Effects. Did it. Really it is. The only thing was nominated for. Well, I know, which is really just a testament to nineteen ninety-two. And you know that that means not recent short I mean. Zemeckis is a visual affects king all say it I've seen back Campbell there. She said it I can't believe she finally said it. I mean he's no James Cameron but who? Today. Still. No. I missed the Majorie on. It's been a really long time since we recorded a matron I know it's been really long since we haven't had a referee in the room. Feels like rabbit. Up. It's good. It feels good. So Madeline turns her head back around and then yes, she's like Ernest to see a doctor. So he takes her to the ER, but she doesn't have a heartbeat turns out she's legally dead but she still awake and moving around and she seems live because of this potion right but ernest being the doctor science man that he is thinks that this is a cosmic sign that they should be together after all which is confusing. No I mean he's he's an interesting I'm like I'm not quite sure what the comment on masculinity is there but they're but it's something. Sure. True. TB. And he takes her home and tries to fix up her broken body but Helen comes back over and Madeleine over. Here's her talking to Ernest about their plan to kill her. So Madeleine takes rifle and shoots helen with it. Yikes. But surprise hello has also taken Lisa von Romans Potion. So she doesn't die even though she has a huge gaping hole in her midsection right and then she and madeline start physically fighting each other they're hitting each other shovels but then they realize there's no point in that because neither of. Them. Can Be injured or die and they get to a point where they both admit their wrongdoings and apologise for hurting each other in the past. Yea. and then they make ernest fix them up but he's like I'll do it but then I'm gonNA leave forever after that and you'll never see me again right. But then they worry there like like we're going to need touch-ups like what if it rains and he's not gonna live forever and we need him around so they decide to take him to lease. and. Make him drink the potion to write each. There there's a lot of intermittent violence in this, we'll have to backtrack to right. And they know he won't go willingly. So they first tried to drug him that doesn't work, and then they knock him out and take him to weasels castle right? She almost succeeds in convincing ernest to drink the potion. But at the last minute, he's like wait a minute. I don't WanNa live forever. That sounds awful. Gets. Away Right, he's not wrong and then madeline and helen spot him and chase after him through this. Bald at least souls throwing all of her clients of whom include Elvis Marilyn Monroe and Andy Warhol PA phony. So He's trying to escape via the roof ernest is and he slips and falls dangling there, and he's about to fall to his death and madeline and how. Unlike Oh man, you gotta take the potion 'cause. Then if you fall you won't die but he refuses and then he falls but he lands in swimming pool so he lives and then he finally gets away and Madeline and Helen her like well. I. Guess. We'll just have to take care of each other and paint each other's asses I kind of liked that. So. Did I I, know I'm just like man that is kind of like you know for some of us being toxic it's nice to be talks IQ and also not alone that's true. It just started doomed to an eternity of toxic friendships. And then we cut to thirty seven years later, which let me do the math here because the movie starts when it's one, thousand, nine, hundred, Ninety, eight and then seven years pass and then seven more years pass and then thirty seven years pass putting us at. One Twenty Nine Oh A ten years from now. So Bruce Willis has ten years left to live. As let's be very careful but it has been said. It wasn't not said. Diplomatic well, yeah the. Official statement. Okay so It's thirty seven years later, Madeline and Helen are at earnest's funeral but they're chipping they're melting their falling apart and then they fall down some stairs and break into bids but they're still alive and Helen's I. Do you remember where you parked the car and then that's the end. Did it there and that's the whole thing Yup. You know. I like them. It's very fun. It's so campy. It have fun with it. It's wild Let's take a quick break and then we'll come right back. Hey everybody. Today's episode is sponsored by the New Mazda C thirty. So lately, we've been trying to do our part to be cautious and do what we can for public health. So we've been cooped up in the house a lot not getting out a lot Robert is there anything you Kinda miss about the about the road trip or going? On long drives well, I do have to say there is something really cool about having a long drive. Hopefully, you know like a drive through the mountains or something and you get to really dive into a particular album just really experienced it beginning to end while taking in the scenery also a great time for the children to learn about Metal Machine Music So when miles gray and drove the Mazda C X thirty from Palm Desert, San, Diego, I really enjoyed the scenery along the way and I feel like the car itself helped a lot with that like the interior of the car is crafted with what they call an essential EST approach. So well, it's got a lot of features in Car Wifi you know vehicle status, navigation displays, etc. It really doesn't feel crammed with distracting lights and visual decoy. And speaking features, the six thirty also has a really good factory sound system. They loaded the car up with some high definition sample tracks for us to try like we listen to daft punk. That sounded great. Hey, for everybody else if you want more information on Mazda and the first ever Mazda. C. X thirty you can find it online at Mazda USA dot com slash iheart or better yet. See It in person at a Mazda dealership near you. Hi. Jamie here with a little oral healthcare fact do you know that seventy five percent of US use old worn out bristles that are ineffective and even more people forget to flaws daily I feel attacked with this sentence while guess what the this can be changed with the use of quip. Here's some quick facts good health start with good habits duck quick makes this easy by delivering all of the oral care. Essentials you need to brush and floss better, equip, elect toothbrush I have it I. Love. It has time sonic vibrations. ooh. With thirty second pulses Uu to got a dentist recommended two minute routine and there's even a size down version designed for kids. If you pair this with quips anti cavity toothpaste also have it also love it in mint or watermelon a momentum you get all the ingredients teeth actually need and then they don't. 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Yes it seems like is like trying to be commentary on how society doesn't value older women I totally agree society doesn't tends not to find older women to be attractive but I think it does not really go far enough because then the no focuses on these two women who hate each other and then they do end up finding a common ground but really only. They have no other choice. This to me it does feel like kind of like. Where we we just happen to have covered a lot of movies that kind of fall into this category recently But like a very earnest attempt to make a comment on something that the writers are not necessarily qualify to make the comment to this movie is spoiler alert as with most movies written by multiple men. and directed by and directed by Mr mackey himself. Yeah. I mean, this movie was written by David Cope who also was at least co-writer on drastic park curly ray mission impossible snake is don't know what China's. He's written. A lot of damn movies is what I'm saying as well as Martin. Donovan. Who is also Famous screenwriter. So it does seem like an based on the production history that we'll get into in Jamie's contacts corner. Hey, this was a genuine attempt to make comment on women's aging by people who you know couldn't really fully understand it themselves. And so I, feel like I don't feel like you know what make a declarative statement for once in Your Life Jamie I know based on watching the movie that even though I think that the criticism of you know how there's a huge stigma against women's aging is made in the movie movie is also very much not above reducing an aging woman's body to achieve Jack. Women's body in general because there's a lot of issues with fat shaming in this and there's like so it is like a weird back and forth and it is extremely campy. But that doesn't excuse it from anything of making like pretty solid foundational points about like the society we live in a society Caitlyn right what and society should not push women to the point of feeling like they have to go to let's say extreme measures to preserve. Their youth in order to function in society as they would like to I, like that foundational point is made right. But the way that they choose to make it is kind of all over the place and then the way they treat those two women after they have made this choice yeah does not bode well because basically what happens is that after they've both taken the potion to not only reverse the aging process but prevent them from ever dying. Do. Right doom them to this weird morbid eternity of just falling apart and we'll the. Extreme. But like I feel like they're punished by. Wanting the well, not like. Okay. So foundationally. Can't really put much blame on. Meryl Streep's or Goldie Hawn's character for wanting to maintain their youth just based on especially the early nineties culture that there. For the majority of the movie short right. But the movie does punish them by a condemning them to an eternity of body horror. Then also turning those characters, not really into villains, but the way they start behaving as soon as they've both died I kind of love. I. It's like very funny and like part of what I like about the movie but also like. We're really sit down and look at it and think about it and we think are meant to like very much. We'll see. Okay. We're working this out in real time. Okay. This is the matron but I do feel like and we almost we talked about this while we were watching the movie that I am all for seeing a toxic relationship between two women I. Love It. I've taken part in them myself like but but like truly like where we start in even though I feel like it starts from to heightened place. But where we start where you know woman is jealous of another woman which I feel like even we in the past of sometimes like that. So tropy, which it can be but I also think that there is certain stories where that works because that trope doesn't come from nowhere it comes from I feel and like I've felt in certain situations myself that you know there is an increased capacity for. Especially where this seems to sort of start and then it gets personal but like a jealousy between women because there's this perception and often a reality that there's only space for so many women in a place right? So I, think that it is a topic worth exploring but the his writers are just not equipped you know and they and I think it's so abruptly as like Oh, we don't really know how to explore this an interesting or like a nuanced way at all. So let's just make it about boys, which is what it becomes about, and then it goes full trope territory of doubts down my boyfriend. So it it kind of sucks because I think that you know the dynamics of female friendship especially a long standing one like this and the power dynamics that exist inside of it. It really interesting and it's been done in really clever and cool ways and just this, this is a more kind of reductive version of it although I mean, hopefully it at the time helped pave the. Way To more nuanced looks at stuff like that but it does I mean it gets pretty reductive like she stole my boyfriend right every quickly because it takes the movie really longtime for the audience to understand why they don't like each other because we eventually understand that the your childhood friends or maybe like they were friends is key majors or something like that. It's still pretty vague. and. It takes a very long time for them to even talk about it. But then finally, there is a reason that gets established to explain why they are frenemies or at least why Helen hates madeline and it's because Madeleine kept stealing Helen's boyfriends and I guess she was doing that to get back at Helen four calling her cheap, which I don't know if that means we don't really know what the context of that is where you're set up with a very vague my immediate read but it's so vague that I felt you can just project whatever you want onto it was that like Helen's character. was from like a family that didn't approve of. Meryl's appearance or maybe it was her socioeconomic background. It wasn't clear. The word cheap has is loaded, right? Exactly. So it's like. Is it a classiest thing is like if she called her a trash or is it like? Is She calling her like Oh, you're cheap like Hussle, which kind of thing which is in the yeah in the lyrics at the beginning. What was it I down? It was like shameless Cusi. Div. FRIEND SAYS LEWD and lusty you're like Jamie. Much. Right so it's not even totally clear what she meant, but then Madeleine retaliates by stealing many of Helen's boyfriends. It reductive stuff but I am it takes an hour and a half for this conversation today but and but at least reasons are given. But again, they are like you said they, they're still very like trohpy and like women be catfight eighty knots. The reason why these women are cat-fighting. Yeah I don't think that there is like had had the writers talked to women. Their friendships or or reasons that you know like I don't I mean I think you could talk to even a handful of women and be like you know what was a friendship that of yours with another woman that fell apart what were the reasons you could come up with a more grounded relatable reason other than like boys and Mommy and daddy because. you know female friendships be complicated right and then shortly after we are, we understand the reasons why they have had such a tense relationship and friendship throughout their lives. Then they both admit their wrongdoings and I. To, each other love it, but it's at that point when they start to like be on each other sides and decide to like kind of allies again. That's when the movie turns them into these like. And again, the performances are very fund is still very fun to watch but it's like credible. They become like these kind of scary obsessed. Occur to I mean. Like enters once die it's as I mean yeah. Enters Roger Rabbit territory basically of like the cartoonish -ness of how the characters like look and behave and it is fun to watch and that's the thing that bugs me is movie viewers are smarter than people give them credit for like your average moving so much is you're you're talking About me specifically. member. stubs members out insisted Fehmi sponsor us. But like you know like people aren't going into death becomes her looking for an example of how to live their lives. So all you need in order to justify the cartoony violence which I appreciate that it's cartoony and. It's a very different movie if you're like I'm am. Really slow instead of literally I'm GonNa blow up your torso. Like the the the injuries are very cartoony comical cutting away to Meryl Streep falling down the stairs for forty five minutes before she hits the bottom of the staircase like it's clearly done with comedic intent and all you need to justify all that cartoony violence is a solid reason for these two characters to hate each other other than a vague seen thrown in three quarters of the way through the movie that doesn't even really answer any questions and it makes it clear. I'm like I wouldn't even be surprised if that scene with added in later because it seems like the movie does all it's looking to do to justify to him and disliking each other in the first scene by saying like she steals my boyfriend's and we see you know it's it's implied that having a boyfriend quote unquote stolen, which also removes all of the accountability from the boyfriend that is like grounds for Helen's life completely falling apart she's ups take care of herself and. She reaches what is kind of implied to be this catatonic state of living over the loss of a boyfriend which she says explicitly in dialogue she blames a thousand percent on Meryl Streep and not at all on Bruce Willis who is just too much of sweetie. Ernest. Boo To to know what he's doing, which is like you know very I rolling right and then this movie also subscribes heavily to the idea that fat equals pathetic that single woman equals pathetic in the sink and also I mean all and woman who loves cats pathetic absolutely on and how dare. Dare. Movie stayed at but. There yeah. I mean the the way the I mean, the the fat shaming elements in this movie are Ex. Maryland, just drunk on. Making fat shaming comments about Helen Right and it's I. Mean. The beginning of the movie is the worst of it where you you know you, we've find out that Bruce Willis has married Meryl Streep Goldie. Hawn is very upset by it, and then we cut to seven years later to an exploitative up close ask shot and then revealed Goldie Hawn's character has gained weight and it's implied that yeah like gaining weight means you've lost control of your life it's used as this shorthand that is like first of all lazy bad writing. And second of all, just you know hold up not even a little and and the fat suit. It's just all bad right and then also because she's institutionalized in a psychiatric hospital that's also. Well the way that mental. Mental illness. Yeah. That like. I mean, mercifully, at least those scenes are pretty quick i. also think that they could have just flashed forward fourteen years like that midway 'cause everything that happens at the seven year point is pretty offensive and also not super necessary to the story like we flash forward fourteen years and just be like she still mad, right you don't need to do the whole scene where it's fat Jamie and just like bad on every level, and then you come to the institution. which at least they don't do that horrible thing that movies do were they name a mental illness and explicitly stigmatize it but the implication is you know women be crazy and being jealous of another woman is a mental illness rate and then the I think unnamed mental health professional at the which is one of the only people of Color in the entire movie I. Don't know that we I don't I didn't hear a name I mean maybe she's credited with one but. We definitely don't hear it but even she's onscreen for no more than a minute and fat James Goldie. Hawn in that scene and is like you've been here six months and you haven't lost pound Mike. That's not why people are institutionalized. Very. so that's just a cruel thing to say so that whole I flash forward is say get rid of it really don't need it and then and then when they flash forward again, fourteen years, Meryl Streep and this is again just another subtle not so subtle way of like trading women's bodies is Meryl Streep only takes. Goldie Hawn seriously, and will only consider talking to her when she finds out, she is lost weight and is back to Goldie Hawn bright and before that, it's like she bruce Willis or kind of like gearing up to tease her from afar and not talk to her. But then when it's revealed that another tasteless reveal that you know it's Goldie Hawn and she's you know the Western beauty standards, Goldie. Hawn and not the offensive fat Sue Goldie Hawn. Then all of a sudden meryl streep is willing to engage in the jealousy is back and it's just like. Just. Just out right don't we don't need it. Yeah absolutely in then then they're like rivalry is ignited again and then. I really don't know why we only know that was centric that Madeleine tends to steal Helen's blew friends from her, but we don't know why we don't know what anyone's motivation is. Right And then things eventually turn around where they do become friends. Again, we're just because they both died. They they've now that they've both been responsible for the others death. They kind of they're like Oh. This is the vague reason we were mad to begin was sorry for not mentioning that earlier. And, we're even and yeah we. And we found common ground and boasted. And being so obsessed with maintaining our youthful looks that we need to keep this guy around to fix us whenever we need it. But then like I say they, they become villains because one they're so obsessed with this idea of maintaining that and then as. Far, as to try to drug him and then knock him out. Take him against his will to this place and then forced him to take this potion because they just like want him. There's also the bizarre Bruce Willis I mean the thing is like I love this movie. But but but we must do our job. The The bizarro message you get on masculinity and I think sort of like a trophy Beta male character. With. Bruce Willis in this movie is bizarre. I think that immediately all agency is kind of removed from him in a way that like completely frees him of accountability on anything where it's just made to seemed like he's gullible idiot who cannot see through the sexuality of Women that is the thing where he he reassures Goldie Hawn and like there's no whale fall for this and they almost make seem like Meryl Streep has this magical power of manipulation that immediately went over Goldie Hawn tells him to his face I don't blame you for that. It's her she's evil. She does he's a woman a woman for. Which is funny. But but you know like no one ever gets upset for him for things and then he also intern and keeping with that blames the women in his life for his life ends up, and it's like no one enforced you to marry Meryl Streep Bruce Williams you hate to say it but like no one force you to and and then sort of the same throughout at the end where it's framed like you know these two vindictive women want to keep this poor man at their mercy for the rest of their eternal lives and they wanNA torture him into infinity and it's just it's so over the top and Brazil is literally kills Meryl Streep but he's She told me to like he's acting like he never has a choice in anything and it's just so like I mean I love I love to watch it but it does. It does give you a weird comment on masculinity that like every man that ever lived is completely has to go with the like wiles of women. They don't understand the retake control it. They do they commit murder. It's not their fault. Also that scene were Goldie Hawn dressed as Jessica, rabbit folios up at his house, and she's like I used to be so timid and I couldn't even say the word sex but now I can say it sex. Snacks and he's like, Bono. Kind of funny. But but like yeah well, my thing with that character was earnest is that I feel that he's written the way a lot of women are written or should I say underwritten in many movies? Yes he's often hysterical. He's screaming his gullible in the relationships that he's in with these two women he is has far less kind of power and control. Then the two women he at least starts out pretty much as being the supporting character to these women in the story so like But then like by the end, he is framed as being this hero and they're at his funeral and they're like, oh, man, his life got so awesome when he turned fifty and he's a saint and he started the men Ville Center for the Study of women because I guessed feminist icon Ernest Manville. Halley. I. That was I thought that was kind of a fun like I don't know I was like well aging worked out for someone else because. The thing. I maybe it's the movie trying to comment but again, I don't think it does it effectively but like men are allowed to age gracefully and with dignity in in like look how awesome everyone thinks he is. Hung in there ladies and not gotten so upset, right. But then by contrast we see like the two women they are literally like chipping away falling apart they look grotesque because there's paint running off of their faces. Like I make it in this, so it's like is that commentary but I feel like. We we're on their side, but your wheels like a hollow message. I am always trying to say one thing I well, something I did like is that I feel like we talked about this when we were watching to that Meryl Streep's character in this movie kind of reminds me of Goldie Hawn's character in first wives club. Yes. Where these are both characters. Who are in the entertainment Industry Meryl Streep is some sort of like a store of the stage and screen right who is afraid of not being able to work in the way she would like to if she appears older right right which is a similar to Goldie Hawn in two, thousand twelve and I appreciate at very least that I think that. Like. A woman's anxiety about aging is made out to see him hysterical or pathetic. And while it is definitely exaggerated in this movie, they released the writing does go out of its way to couch it and like, and this is not something that she is completely. Like removed from reality to be worried about because we see that scene where she goes to her young side pieces house Oh. Yes and he is with a younger woman and he rejects her and you know insulting and says, you know someone your own age and that is a breaking point for her and so I think that it was that was one of for me the more genuine moments of like actual commentary. On aging of like, yes it does seem on the surface like Meryl Streep, as you know, she seen with face masks on all the time it's made out to be over the top but then you do get the inverse of it of like she's not doing it for no reason she's edited there is like it is her reality right and so I did appreciate that we we at least get to see that so that she hasn't made out to be like the crazy lady trump agree that scene where she goes to that guy and he says like find a guy your own age I'm doing you a favor people say we look ridiculous together right which is like The movie attempting to comment on like the double standard of society, deeming it perfectly acceptable for an older man to be with a younger woman but not acceptable for an older woman to be with a younger man. So the movie does like. Start to make this commentary it is it is. It just doesn't get all the way. Right. It's almost like male writers directors that are trying to put women on, which is Great. Use Your power responsibly, but also talked to them to thank think being stupid. You know, let's just bring Ari Astra back in the conversation while we're at it like, yeah, we get it like you WanNa make as well. Women try to have a conversation with one. Yeah. There are like those moments real like Oh this the heart was in the right place, but it just rings hollow because there's not really any authenticity in it and I feel like is like what makes a great campy movie is like reactions and characters that are over the top you understand why they're doing what they're doing and so you can justify almost anything. Behavior wise of like if I had a better understanding, a rooted reason that Meryl, Streep and Goldie Hawn, fucking hate each other. Then they hit each other with shovels all day and I wouldn't care because it's like you there. There's a grounded reason. You're not just doing it to do it, but you know it it just sometimes it feels that way other times it doesn't. 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And we're back kyw share my two favorite lines in the movie Yes those said by Bruce Willis because his character just tickles me pink hit Avai-. Sees like yelling at like a number in the hospital after he's taken. Madeleine to the ER and he's like you put her in the morgue. She'll be furious man love it later whenever they're trying to deal with what they think is Helen's dead body Bruce Willis says, are you just GonNa sit there. I'm not going to be your accomplice all by myself, which is comedy at its highest ruling the peak. Oh, so funny. Loved it. Okay. Fund Font I mean this movie I think kind of keeping true to its heart in the right place. But a lot of you know kind of classically negative stereotypes being given in I. Mean there's lot of needlessly like overly revealing outfits kind of for no reason. I'm almost willing to justify it within the aesthetic of the movie or if it is a cartoon but there's like that scene where Meryl Streep Goldie Hawn Her following Bruce Willis around in like leotards for no reason and you're just like okay this is also one of the few movies were the two female leads are older than the male Love Interest Meryl Streep Angle, the Hunter both older than Bruce Willis. That very rarely happens. You know it's like Leonardo DiCaprio will not appear onscreen with a woman over the age of twenty four. So. There's you know that I thought that was cool. Oh, that was getting into Isabelle Orissa Cellini. Because she she is I mean the the costumes are incredible conic. They are architecture basically it the the looks her shirt is just several necklaces, but it's also you're like I. Think there's flesh colored fabric involved I'm not GonNa, must because we didn't see any nips I don't believe there was Arkansas. Yeah because it was PG thirteen So the architect I mean it was wild but but like sure there were shots where you saw her bare ass for no reason was a gratuitous. Yeah but I also was like I wish I could wear them you know. But there I mean and there's did you have I i. don't have much to say about Lisa's character because she is kind of something that I think is something that we have. Slowly realised is a bizarre trope that appears again again is a plot witch. Right, she's we weren't gonNA. Compared to Ursula. Yeah. She is. She's literally applauded. She's like a deal for you wearing outfit and you're like, oh Sure. Yeah. We also I don't know totally how much this is worth mentioning but we as we were watching it, we're like. She's like appropriating. Agent Egypt culture with like. Sound off in the comments. We truly I'm just like I don't know if there's if what we don't know. Yeah. There's a lot of a lot of it. We don't know Madonna, and so you know that's something for for if you have any information on it, we would love to have a more cogent discussion about it but at this time. We simply don't know. but yeah, that's Lisa. There's really not I mean yeah. There was like some gratuitous. Not I mean almost exclusively gratuitous nudity there she's a plot witch. Two female protagonists to bounce it off I mean like if she was one of the only women that you saw onscreen at length I would be way more bothered that she. Like several mail service, our values FOB IOS there one of them. Actually their names are Tom Dick and Harry and they are. Pretty, nude I mean they're topless they're wearing. Revealing clothing. So I thought that was you know what? That's an empowering thing for yeah it's. Rules you can't. We're a lot of huskies rich. Also, she's a business woman I. Think there's a case she's a woman in stem she's She's she's seventy some years old she said, which is I mean it is another one of those I mean, and again, this movie is not thinking too hard about it I'm certain but in a like a female scientists can only be a witch right but also she has at least some business live outside of it I don't have that much to save his character and there's also the thing of like it's a movie about women aging and like not being allowed to age gracefully in society not allowing that but then it's also casting three women who are very attractive by beauty standards and like. Great. For you? Yeah I don't know I mean it. It is an interesting car again she's like so much of this movie would pull together more for me if we had a more grounded story and why they dislike each other because as it stands, it just makes some really cool interesting scenes, choices kind of feel less impactful and cool but and ultimately it is the women who suffer for what is presented at the beginning as a societal ill and yet it is still these two women who have to suffer the eternal consequences and are. For it, which is a weird message to leave it off right When did you a quick little context moment for This Murphy's So I was so thrown off by calling context and moment coroner. James Context Corner says movie has a massive queer following I. I wasn't aware of the extent of the Queer legacy of this movie, but there was a terrific piece that came out in Vanity Fair on this exact topic with extensive reporting. came out two years ago it was written by Christy Pacheco. So thank you for doing all this It gives a little bit of background on the production of the movie as well as how it is gained queer following over time because this movie wasn't super successful when it came out and it also was not well reviewed right It just broke its budget domestically and ended up making some money internationally but it definitely wasn't considered anyone's best. It wasn't nominated for anything except visual effects. A, lot of the interviews are a lot of po quotes from David Coop. K. K. O. P. P. is a KEP kept. for He, he gives them insight into what they were going for. He says quote, it was meant to be night of the living dead if q core had directed I think it's kind of a fun reference felt like no risk whatsoever because we both had nothing but credit card debt to her name's there was nowhere to go. But up since we basically written to be and the original casting choices of reveal that it was written to be a B. movie and. Then because Robert Zemeckis had a lot of clout and wanted to direct the movie all of a sudden it was elevated to a big budget level. So there which I feel like you can kind of in a good way feel that dissonance of like why is Bruce Willis in this movie? Why would like the this could have been made for a lot less money, but I'm Kinda glad it was. Know. It it looks like it cost fifty, five million dollars But what this is inspired a lot of in addition to the movie being screened at pride events quite a bit is there have been a lot of iconic drag performances inspired by death becomes her to the point where it was a specific runway challenge on Ru, Paul's drag race at some point where violet chunky one for the most intensely cinched waist. I've ever seen in my entire life. You can look it up is so good later in the article David kept his asked why he I think this is a fun question. Asked him because old men are so dufy sometimes. They ask him, why do you think this movie has amassed such a big we're following and he has this to say quote you really can't underestimate the entertainment value of two women's swinging shovels at each other. And then the other the other said, yes, and then his Co. and then his Co. writer says quote I could invent some excuse but deep down in my heart, I do not know. It it's like they're I mean they're just like Kinda like growing. We've never talked to a gay person so So they're like, I guess it worked out for us. The winner of drag racism five Jerick. Hoffer had that's jinx monsoon. Yes. Yeah. One under jinx monsoon but interview this interview under jerk. Hoffer. Took on like the death becomes her themed photo shoot like has a history. Here's what jared has to say quote, I think this is a trait that runs throughout the queer community, the obsession with the Hyper Feminine Female Villains, and we see it and Disney movies and in movies like death becomes her in characters like poison, Ivy and cat-woman almost all the Disney villain witches are icons, which is and we've discussed Ettlin here and they continue quote I think it's a combination of. It being a strong female character who who you love how evil she is. You know I don't know why that is a trait that appears to queer people so much but it's pretty consistent amongst the queer community I think it has something to do with feeling like outcasts and imagining yourself in this position of power where even though you're the outcast, you still have some kind of power and strength within you. So, yeah, and then finally quote I think it's really feminist that they're willing to take their lives into their own hands and do whatever it takes. Be Willing to spray, paint themselves and fill themselves with cement or whatever. To just uphold themselves and try to stay in command. So there yeah, that is in brief the history of death becomes her as a iconic queer movie as well. beautiful. Thanks for the context corner. You're welcome. Yeah I'm glad I. Mean. We talk about this a fair amount to where. Certain movies have become like queer icon texts not because there are any queer characters in them because are often not in most mainstream movies. Yeah. Yeah. Even in like it's just it's it's cool to understand the history of how movies become iconic in any community by its core and I I knew so little about this movie to begin with that like having context for that drag race competition was great for me. Yeah. WHO's great because I had watched it before and been like what? I don't know now I, know I understand you know leaning Did else you wanted to hit on just the Helen Sharp. I has a cat and then has many cats and cuts have eight nipples. That's facts with Caitlyn's. Though yeah. I. Enjoyed this movie quite a bit. I I'm happy it will be continued to watch for years to come. I. Think it is the kind of movie that even though it's flaws I think are pretty glaring. I find them. So glaring that it is almost like people can continue to watch because that makes sense. Yeah. I. See where he's not like a subtle poison put into the veins of a movie where you're like Oh no, I'm. Red You know like so it is so wildly campy that it's not like very, very small doses of arsenic that you take over the course of several months and then die from it. It's like, yeah, the poison apple with like the poison symbol painted onto the apple and you're right I know not like A. Perfect. Analogy. Yeah. I mean just a movie trying to tackle the subject. Like women aging and how society believes that that's not a thing that should be allowed at. All right you know and and. Approaching that topic very nine, hundred, ninety, two way tackles it in the context of upper-class straight white women exactly But in in terms of the time I, mean there's not a lot of movies in Nineteen ninety-two that are trying to address the concept of women aging and all who are of women at women. So right and and so I think in that it has a valuable place in history in addition to being fun watch with some really incredible. Performances. But the I. It is the the outfits in this movie are really Oh. Let me say my one last piece of place I think maybe y'all in this doesn't justify this at all, but perhaps the reason that we cut to the seven years later where we see Goldie, Hawn they completely in crisis and like mentally crumbling, and all of that is that that's when she we don't see her do this of course because it has to be revealed later on. But that's when we understand her to take the potion because she says, she takes it off Tober twenty, six, nineteen, eighty five that would be seven years after when the movie opens and Nineteen Seventy Eight. Thing about. Over Twenty Six nineteen eighty five that is the day of the temporal junction point of the space time continuum according to back to the future another Robertson Meka's galaxy brain. So we these actually exist in the same universe galaxy brain. Love it. It makes me happy. Didn't under see and you know we did cover back to the future on the matriarch as well. It did not fare well. But it still lovie I deeply deeply love. That's my cross to bear. Yeah. Fortunately, it doesn't mind but I do like a good billy Zane joint which I think is how back to the future is remembered As one of these. Services. But yeah, I yeah. This this I, I would genuinely like Recommend Watch this movie with your friends. It's a blast. I'm sure there's a great drinking game for this movie somewhere. Yeah but you know that's why we're here to just you know keep you humble like you know, hey, it's not as good as you think it is but it's still pretty fucking good job. Does this movie, pass the battles at it does these days. And Helen Between Madeline. In Lee Soul there's a few other conversations with of very tertiary female characters who don't get name that don't pass tests, but there are women interacting and there is a lot of talk about like I, feel like even slightly edging out the Bruce Willis Talk, there is a lot of talk about jealousy and fractures within the friendship and often men will come up because the conflict between them is underwritten but you do they do like that. Some of the dialogue is like left for us to kind of explore this conflict although it comes way too late in the movie. but yeah. So you know it does pass. Sure does yeah. What would you rate the film scale probably pretty low? so I mean. Here okay. I was GONNA say this earlier for all of its faults. All of the action in this movie is driven by the female characters. Absolutely Willis is has like you were saying is reduced to know agency like female characters often are he becomes kind of this flaccid tool weapon screaming squealing hysterical to be used by the like. So in that way, I, think it is very unusual and cool women are but then he is given agency at the climax. and. Then he's yeah exactly. I don't like the way this movie in one and a half one and a half maybe two I was going to give it to okay I'll go to. Nip for each of them. This gets an five million on the Campo meter, but that's not what we're here for. In terms of maybe we should do that podcast. Yeah. New Patriots here citric discussing camp. The camp meter. But this is like kampe meter a plus But in terms of how the movie treat family characters I would say about two because they do lose in the end. Yeah which doesn't they're punished for wanting to, and that's the other thing like, yes society has these rigid expectations about women and women aging women will also be criticized for trying to. Like participate in like I'm going to try to not look like managing so much kind of thing, and then women are also punished for that. Well, it's just like well, can't you just like age naturally and it's like fucking won't let me. Sihities the the yeah. I feel like the movie like at some points it reaches like, Oh, it looks like it's about to make a really cool point and then it punishes a female character. Yeah. We're making the choice that they've explained. Made it clear why they're making that choice like well, whatever fucker anyways and you're? That's not fair I. My ideal ending for this movie is that once they become friends again they discuss. Okay. This was our conflict. We both killed each other where even than instead of going after Bruce Willis, they like find a more like a large like societal target in like instead of going after this one person that they've been using as a tool right all time go after someone who has actually inflicted harm upon them and go after that. That's a more logical target especially, if you're you get that cool moment of them uniting. Right, why would you go to Bruce Willis right I do when when they come together and This like friendship again. But Yeah, the Third Act of this movie is a mess. They should. There should be like maybe like a movie director who's like I'm not going to cast you anymore Merrill because you've gotten too old or even just someone who set up a little bit earlier of someone who has done actual harm or encouraged conflict among them or something like that where it because going for Bruce Willis doesn't make a ton of sense and then he ends up winning and you're like that either like there was a cooler and trajectories for and they should of one because we're rooting for them. Should have had US write the movie. Really like I know that we barely existed at this time they should've let us get you were a fetus maybe fetus and I was six years old restraints. Let's. Cool. Progressive screenwriting team is and we would have been able to comment on aging women as fetus and a six year old. Better choice. To men isn't that insane? Born is a better choice but. It is true in in this case of yeah. As just it good intentions but I feel like you know with the benefit of time, we now understand that two men are very rarely going to write a realistic compelling relationship between two women whether it's like greedy realism or camp at just you just you just need someone in the room. So -TUNITIES kick, and one each of them same. I'll do the same. Yeah. Now, they both got a full set of for them. Oh congratulations Isabel you're Outta luck. And folks that was the death becomes her episode. Thanks for tuning in. And we just wanted to remind you that was an unlocked matriarch episode. If you want seventy plus more episodes like that, they're all over at patriotair dot com slash the Bechtel Slash Bechtel cast sorry my brain is pudding Patriotic Dot. COM SLASH BECHTEL CAST. 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And how they might affect you. We start on four twenty. Now listen cannabis talk one on one on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts. It's twelve thirty two a. m. in the e mail of Los Angeles and you're listening to night call. Hello and welcome back tonight. Call a call in show for our DYSTOPIA in reality. I am Tesla Lynch in Los Angeles and with me are now me Shida and Molly. Lambert guys welcome back. It is still plastic surgery April so today we will be talking about the cosmetic surgery. Black comedy death becomes her with special guests. Johnny Loftus and Caitlyn durant from the Bechtel cast as well as taking some questions from listeners. CaN'T WAIT. It's a great conversation spoiler alert we already had it. Everything's topsy-turvy Classic Surgery. Paul going pretty good. I know spring break march anymore. But did anyone read the story about how Gwyneth Paltrow got fired from her first job at a toy store because she went on spring break. No my God do tell. It's just amazing. Because there's a bunch of magazines coming out that were finished before cove. It happened so they all have a disclaimer. That's like the story was conducted before the pandemic for press tours. That aren't happening anymore. Like Gal Cadeau Lady Gaga So. There's a Gwyneth. Paltrow one that's the header is Gwyneth. Paltrow accepts your apology good anyway. It's super brand including that. She was like well. I have to go on spring break. I mean talking about like a rich person you know has a job include sh. She talked about how she could get into the expensive bars because she was tall but not the like college bars she was too she was to upscale. They just didn't think she could hang God a fancy places. DoN'T CARE. Teenagers come in. Yes we're GONNA take a bunch of calls. We actually have gotten a lot of night calls and emails from From y'all so far so let him coming. Yeah keep them come in. We Love them so perhaps you should take this first call from a listener about Siemian Hayes. Hi this is emily I listen to your podcast about plastic surgery and mmediately. I'm fascinated by two and immediately SIEMIAN. Hayes came to mind their those twin girls that hang out with all the crashing girls and the calabasas crew and They basically changed their entire parents. They're super wealthy. And I think the parents to face when they're like sixteen. It's pretty early. He's he's been there before she hates before. You'll be Ford okay Thanks so I had never heard of Siemian Hayes before this had you guys know I had because I follow all those Salah plastic surgery blogs which also colored cover influencers micro celebs so I only knew about them from that. But why don't we explain who they are Why don't you explain who they Your team expert over twins and they got matching plastic surgery and apparently and they used to be like sort of cute. Nicole Kidman ask Beauties and now they look like everybody else but also to cody Johnson Kind I think but they had like big frizzy red hair like yours truly and now they have like sleek brown hair but they also have sort of different faces Where a lot of highlighter they. I guess the reason there's so many before photos of them is they're rich and their mom took them to art auctions or something and that's they're all before photos are from there also. Dj's I should point this out. I don't think that that's that's not why they're rich but they are deejays So there are lots of pictures of them. Kind of like just sitting or standing or posing by their deejay booth set like Seen Street parties Since they've had a bunch of plastic surgery I preferred them before. F Why they are not influencers. Tw- influencers they. They have a great. They had a great look earlier. I did So other twin fluency that I think of when this idea comes up you see the Olsen twins share but also the Clermont twins who were on bad girls club and then testify. One saw them doing photo? Shoot off melrose when you're right about that call. 'cause I like Fan. I'm freaked out your eked out. Molly's just obsessed with like. She sees twins notable to her. It's like no the specialty when they are famous on the Internet. No also yeah famous for being these twins who sort of got matching plastic surgery to each other. It that weirdest thing amount you kind of have to us very obvious. What's what you've done like this is packed somebody. This is a common thing in also weird because I am very addicted. Recently to watching ninety day fiance pillow talk episodes Which I love so much but there. There's a twin on ninety fiance and she and her sister have like different slightly different plastic surgery like they've both done a lot but it's different and it's so transfixed because you're like she. She opted not to do that and like she decided to do that. And You wonder like. Did they get the plastic surgery? And then the the you know the younger sister whatever will see her sister and be like Oh. I'm not getting that done. It looks terrible on her. I'll do something else. It's just such a like psychological horror movie playing out before your eyes at twin is so weird. I imagine just for there to be another person. Who looks like you? This isn't kostic surgery. But I know if you guys have watched the Whitmer Thomas Special on. Hbo I really recommend it. It's super good It's like half stand up. Show half documentary about his life involving reconciled with his aunt. He's estranged from who is his mom his dad mom's twin sister and his mom and his aunt had a band together. A hair metal band in Florida called Sin Twister. Ha there's footage of it in the show but it's also just this moment where he's like. I have to go see my aunt who also looks just like my mom's got to be so weird. I would never have even thought or something like that. It's a really good. It's really guys not even just a stand up special. Let's just like a really good thing. And they're like weirdly like being a twin like being an identical twin. Feels like a much more uncanny thing than you know. I mean like Celeb- face which we mentioned on last week's episode often has these things where it's just like look at these people who basically look the same now like everybody's gotten this matching face and like what is having even having a sibling. I'm just going to say for all my only children. CO host. It is weird to be like. Oh here's a different blend of my parents but also people without my brother and I were twins a lot when we were kids. 'cause he injures yeah you just have like the exact same coloring as each of my kids to they have the exact same color hair and like the same complexion and CA. I mean you can tell that they're related. They don't look like twins But I always wonder what it would be like to have like a a sibling. Who looked a lot like me? I would hate it. Hate is there can only be one. Yeah it's it's unnerving but I do think if I was going to get work done. I would want to get it done with my twin in this article this double hypothetical situation what are your feelings about the Olsen twins. I mean I. I know that they obviously have gotten stuff done like work. If you're talking about the works side of it like I don't think that they've gone to the weird place with it yet. They still basically look recognizable to me. I I I was privacy. That's that's what all say. They can do whatever they want. I kind of respect that they've opted out of being tabloid people. Well I feel like it must also be so weird to be so famous and a brand that your face is literally on products you know as a child right yeah see also just as a psychological device wanting to distance yourself from the way you looked as an eight year old especially. If you're a person who just looks like you always look like you however Everson. Somebody pointed out that they probably allegedly allegedly could have had buckle fat removal. Which is a thing I just learned about which is where they like. Suck fat out of your cheeks to give you like get give you a cheekbone. Give you like a high fashion cheekbone. You don't think that's just like I'd die it any smoking thousand cigarettes a day face. Yeah it's smoking face more than anything else. I think the the buccal fat removal is a very popular among Asian people because like Asian people tend to have around her face and tend to have more. They're speaking for myself. And so like speaking for the whole round face crew. You're on a hot. Don't you think that's a good thing to have around deface so yes you look younger yes yeah Yeah I think it's again like totally depends on what you're going for? But I think in their case. They're like they're such obvious chain smokers like I mean. That's the one documented thing you can say for sure and I think that that kind of sunken cheekbone look as like both being skinny and the smoking thing I think that really contributes but I kind of love them for not giving a shit about at lake what anyone thinks of them anymore. I love that I love that. They smoke millions of cigarettes and clear flower at anyone. Who's like taking a picture of them? I think they totally earned that right. Yeah I mean both never had any affection for them as a brand because I feel like we were slightly too old to get like Mary. Kate and Ashley Videos you know I. I knew them from full. How as one person Michelle Tanner? But think any child actors who like come out of the child acting Conveyor belt and decide to never do anything again. That's fine with me. Yeah we'll also like it's such a choice for them to continue to have careers that are semi public facing but to really do it in an intentional way where it's like also you know like the row is so expensive like nobody like it's not like juicy couture or something where like influencers can afford it or kids in the suburbs can afford it. It's like so far removed from just like what the average person comes in contact with that. It's sort of like up opting out of being a household name in a way and really like setting yourself but it's also it made them a household name invoke which was also very weird. Move to me but I understand it. I guess they were just like rich people. Let's have a fashion line. Well if you're vogue fixture I think you probably get treated better than if you're like people fixture or gas weekly fixture. I mean it's all fucked up and bad but like I think if if I had to choose if I was in their position I would rather be the kind of person who's like you know. Just coddled by vogue so that they can get closer. Whatever yes I also think that. If you're a vogue kind of celebrity you actually ironically get more privacy than if you're you know because when you're like mid level you have to you. There's like a symbiotic relationship whereas when you ascend to the like fancy rich person level of celebrity you can just shut everybody out. Yeah I interviewed. Hot Jug had a twin Cole. Sprouse and Dylan's prowess where like the Olsen twins and they also did a smart kind of like like Cole. Sprouse is a photographer fashion photographer. You know. Yeah so. He's totally on the vogue thing and then Dylan sprouse started a meter e in Brooklyn where he makes mead. Isn't there like sixty years old at least to make me being bringing. He dates a supermodel. And it's like I'm bringing back the ancient art of malaria's well speaking of Choosing what kind of fancy are going to be. Let's take a night email This email comes to us from Patrick. Who writes a comment emily? That's me made on this week's pot about quarantine being a great time to have plastic surgery. Procedures done reminded me of this story from a few weeks ago and the Houston Chronicle about her. Houston's wealthy are handling social distancing topics covered include expanded use of private jets hiring newly-available high profile chefs for private dinners with friends and opting for plastic surgery as the article says. Social distancing is after all the perfect opportunity recover inconspicuously. This article is disturbing for a lot of reasons. And I'm still surprised. It didn't go viral. So those of US fortunate enough to stay home collectively market. It was originally published on March Eighteenth. So I imagine the part of the reason was that we didn't get no how bad the situation was going to get especially for the most vulnerable. I also think it doesn't help that. Houston doesn't exactly have a ton of writer types with big national social media reaches with which to share something like this. Maybe y'all can start something retroactively. So this is about the real house of Houston Allow me to say we'll talk about. Death becomes her later and Beverly Hills plastic surgery culture but man Texas Plastic Surgery. Culture curious scariest to me so. I have to say that. I'm not a fan of plastic surgery. Even despite this I have had a lot of conversations with people whose like parents and older sisters and people who are a little bit older have traveled to the south specifically because the they claim the plastic surgery looks better and more natural than Los Angeles plastic surgery and plastic surgery. Yes the and I don't know what it is. I mean first of all just being in the south you have more humidity. You know just like you're just GonNa look better if you live in Houston But Yeah I think that they have like a slightly different aesthetic. And maybe because we're so used to the LA plastic surgery face or the Newark Plastic surgery phase. It's harder to identify right off the bat unless it's something that's so that would have been so exaggerated. Anyway I actually think if I had to say as a as a as a regular user real self I would say that New York has the most natural work on the whole really wants to go to New York right now. At the running I thought Korea was the the international capital of like subtle plastic surgery. I would say the international capital at the national capitals right growing up in New York. I saw a lot of really terrible plastic surgery but that was a long time ago. Yeah could have been that. I don't know I mean I've seen so many places where it's like it like places in New York where it's like you couldn't opt for different like for example and there is like the New York lip versus the L. A. Lip and the L. A. Weap- is the one that looks insane like the La Lamp is the is the simpsons lip large upper lip. Us might respects the L. A. Lip for just you know putting it out there. Oh sure yeah but again choices these. I'm I wouldn't think I would. I mean I. I watched a little bit of what they had a short lift Dallas housewives. Did they not? Oh it's still going. The the one who was like the incredible villain just laughed because she was very racist on the last season and she like left to save her pride. The Dow is housewives is incredible. They all get all the stuff done for sure. That's where I learned the phrase Mommy Makeover. Oh Yeah Yeah I know about a mommy makeover. Get your hair done well. The one thing that jumped out to me about this article is the private jet thing because there was the story that came out recently about. I believe it was Goldman Sachs purchasing a private jet or private jets like in the middle of this like is recently like a week or two ago and that was very I was thinking how how tacky obviously like we like somebody who's going to find out about this shamelessness with what she would do this. But I'm sure that somebody justified it to themselves like oh no. This is how we're going to continue to be productive. Induce social distance. See we just have to fly private which is just so like completely you know at that point. You're you're in another stratosphere of toxic wealth but Yeah I fully believe that. Some people are forcing people to stay on at their mansions. for Domestic Labor tone lie. I also there's an La Times article about people firing their staff which was also obviously super fucked up. Well the whole staff of the Chateau got fired and all these things people get fired. And then they're like here's a go fund me if you want to help person who fired the should not be pushing a go fund me or you know it feels. I mean the thing. That's kind of crazy to me. Is that like if you're a wealthy person especially living in in Houston or somewhere in the middle of the country where you know. There's generally more space than a more classically urban setting like a New Yorker Late you're good. You're good you're low risk. I feel like but but people taking all these extravagant measures to to stay socially just I would say also. The Dallas housewives are the most stepford wives of any of the real housewives. They are. It's different than other franchises. 'cause like in all the other franchises it's like they wanna be married but they also want to have careers and on Dallas. It's like a lot of their husbands. Don't want them to have careers now just openly. So they're much more betty drapery and in that sense. The sort of constant self-care feels like this other kind of stabbed. Like gotta fill my days right. Just buffing myself to assume. Yeah because that's their job is to look. Look good for your husband. That's why it's surprising to me that that it's considered a better place to get work done because in that way it feels more data like the whole thing feels date. Yeah it also feels like eighties like a very eighties. Kind of wealth. Yeah this was. This was described as like the aesthetic. I mean I think I'm sure cost also comes into play Even with travel. It's probably depending on what you have done. Like you can probably get a better deal But I think it's it's just you know the idea of like a different aesthetic and something. That's not as common where you are. You can market it to people in those other cities by being like doing something different over there that you can't get here or just like you know that they have like a lighter touch or something because it's true that like regionally there are trends that you probably notice if you're like back when we used to be out in about as opposed to just looking at the the grid of the screen. I I remember when the Brazilian but left I became a thing that was the story was that it was like rich people flying to South America to get these procedures that are state of the art. You know just got invented so I also think what you see in big cities it's like the cumulative effect of many generations of plastic surgery right. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Yeah the people that have the most messed with faces. You can tell it. It's like because because it is like as we'll talk about on death becomes her becomes about maintenance. Yeah Yeah you just broke my brain because I had never really thought about what it would feel like to sit on but injections and then I started trying to imagine and now I've lost my bones. I feel so cushion. That never deflates. Do you think that your nerves I mean like? Can you even feel like how to your nerves? React to something like that. I wish I'd never thought of it. I N The most You know as we've said on this podcast like I have a pretty okay attitude about this stuff but the but stuff really screens me out like I I why would it. Why more than breath cause us on it? You wait on me. It's the same thing like the idea. Don't sit on your breasts. You idea of putting something on that. Then you're like you're trading nerve sensation for a visual. Don't don't don't bother me as much and I guess maybe because it's more normalized even now But the yes sitting on your but it's just I don't know like that's feels very uncomfortable to me. Just imagine you're but falling asleep. Okay okay now what it felt like lumpy or straight like I think with with breast implants. I actually did for Awhile get hung up on the idea of like. Can you not on your stomach? Because you're smoshing uncomfortable. Definitely when you're healing but then afterwards does it just feel bad but then I was like man I sit all the time. Never not sitting right. What if it was super uncomfortable but I just like no and then they got the surgery. Yeah what if it made it more comfortable and it was like you were sitting luxuria experience. I considered that as somebody who was very little going for me down there. Let's open it up. If you know what it feels you've had butt implants or know someone who does. How does it feel sit on implants? I'm so curious to four zero four six nine nine podcast gmail.com base you as anonymous as you wish to be. We're very though you can just email me directly. Because I I now can't let go of this thought but yeah I don't think it's to me. It's the same as any other procedure. I feel like people will single out. The Butt injections is going too far. But it's like to me that makes the most sense like who doesn't WanNa have like a big nice by you know it's not it's not about like. Is it worth it or not? I for our newsletter. This month I wrote about Empty Nose Syndrome. You know which is when you have your when you you can either have. It's like your turban. It's in your nose removed because you have horrible congestion or you can have like a deviated septum fixed and you just get this awful side effect. Which is that it feels. You're you feel like you're suffocating. Or then on read it on a message board of people who have this or somewhere like that. Someone said it just feels like rushing cold wind in there like there's nothing in there and it freaks me out so much that it's not really about like is the achieved result worth the procedure. But it's like what unforeseen side effects happen because of the procedure that make it so physically uncomfortable to live with what you've done even if from the outside. It's you can't tell that there's any discomfort at all going to say also nineties reality. Tv and recent more recently. Vander pump rules. There's a lot of reality shows that involved plastic surgery. Were they do show you somebody in just like absolute hell during the recovery totally. I think the left is is one of the long longest in gnarliest Butt lifts to. Oh my God face list were they take it off and put it back on. I can't wait to talk about face-off with you guys feel like I'm less afraid of having a completely changed face to look at than having all that time to think about it right and checking it up and checking as you heal and like you as you start to see what your face is going to. Look Lake. I mean this is kind of what I had when I was a kid when I was like. Oh isn't that just how it's going to settle like is very weird? Yeah it's fun to feel alienated from your physical appearance if it's an adventure so we're going to take a quick break and when we come back we'll be joined by Jamie Loftus and Caitlyn Durante. Talk about death. Becomes her stick around everyone. Then bullet here host of stuff. They don't want you to know in ridiculous history as a podcast. Does I am constantly reading and researching for upcoming episodes but even I need an occasional break so when I feel like I need. Some kind of mental pallet cleanser might go choo refresher. Is the mobile puzzle game best fiends? That's fiends not friends. Best scenes is a puzzle game. You can play right on your phone. 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Mecca says death becomes her nineteen ninety-two time. How'd you guys seen this before? Yes we've actually on a bonus patriot. Episode of Bechtel Cast. Yeah we've analyzed it from its. I think we talked about like the elements of plastic surgery. Body horror in this movie but we didn't get super deep into it. I'm excited yeah. I mean this is my first time seeing it. I still can't believe that emily. How did you avoid it? I don't know you know. I think it came out in this funny time when I was too young to see it and I don't know it was just not on my radar something to see when I was whatever seven years old and then I don't know I just skipped me like I associated this movie for a long time with witches of Eastwick but I saw which is a visa before I saw this so I don't I don't know I don't know what to say I've also been on kind of a Robert Zemeckis kick lately like I find his filmography to be extremely watchable during the pandemic first half of it. I mean his later movies. Get a little shirt. What are his? Oh you sign. Marlin had sorry. Sorry Martin I love Dr. The future that I think it's terrible. I'm no big hurry to rewatch back to the future off. It's still one of my favorite movies of all time. I watched back to the future. Like once every two years especially. It's really fun once you have kids to introduce them to the future Because it's also it's one of the early I don't know with my son I was like oh I have to wait a little. You know until he's a little older to introduce this or this but unlike back to the future it's appealing for everybody Fucking love that movie. Rabbits my favorite. Yeah yeah well this. This is interesting because it comes between Roger Rabbit and Forrest. Gump which like. I don't know how you connect those dots except that like death becomes her just feels like a cartoon for adults like yeah genre. Yeah there's a lot of movies from around this era that I feel like kind of fit into that like there's this. Isn't anybody seen this totally like bananas? Insane film called Cod nothing but trouble. Yeah Yeah it's like. Live action cartoons. That are kind of like too risque for children. I'm shocked we didn't cover nothing but trouble and terrifying eighties prosthetics. Yeah Yeah what is nothing but travel? Oh my God I just saw it for the first time a couple years ago because my boyfriend really loves it. It's a Dan ackroyd movie about a bunch of like New York yuppies getting stranded in a Weird Industrial East Coast town on Nice. Okay can escape. But there's a lot of like terrifying makeup and Aykroyd playing a bunch of different characters and like nutty professor may up like hyper us that extra ten prospects and In digital underground her in it. It's truly it's truly a like like when I saw it. I was not only like how did this I was just like how did I never. How did no one ever say you have to see this? I saw very young like I saw a slumber party or something probably around when it came out and I was totally baffled by it at the time I would be interested to rewatch. Terrified of death becomes her when. I thought originally really. Yeah scared of it I I found. It's so creepy and I saw it with like a friend and whose dad took us to see it because I feel like my parents probably would have been like. It's too scary for a nine year old. You know but I totally was freaked out by it was just so the prosthetics and makeup and effects were just so creepy to me. This is like my favorite era of like visual effects. I think because it doesn't look like good but you can just tell they're doing so many different things like there's some you're like. Oh that's a computer like no that's in an animatronic that's like maybe originally. You weren't supposed to be able to tell but now it's very like clear. Who did I also think that there was so much trial and error it? Sounds like in the filming of it where they were like. Okay we can do that with an animatronic head. And then they look at it and they're just like no yeah go back into CGI it sounds like it must have been really interminably long shoot and really horribly frustrating but I love the texture of like the neck bones popping out. I love that Shit. It looks so good to me. I think I was also unsettled US. Like a kid by like what this movie appeared to say about women. You know sure I'm nine but it's like this. What's in store for me as an adult like? This is all these movies when your kid kind of. That's the question behind them. It's like this. Is this a growing up as like? Yeah but I found out just reading about it yesterday that it was made basically at the same time that's Amac us was doing tales from the crypt right and it was sort of an idea that came out of tales from the crypt and was maybe originally going to just be a Tillstrom. The crypt episode. And that made it make a lot more sense to me. 'cause it totally feels like a fifties horror comic. Yes yeah and that also make sit like it doesn't matter that they're both just really vain and sort of shallow people like just a moral parable moral tale right Should we go over? What exactly death becomes her is about. Just in case somebody like me as a week ago. Hasn't seen it. So basically there's a helen who's played by. Goldie Hawn and Madeline. What's her last name again? Madeleine yeah who's Meryl Streep and they were childhood friends and kind of rivals so Goldie Hawn Helen is engaged. I believe to Bruce Willis whose name in the movies Ernest Men Ville Who is a plastic surgeon? They're engaged and she he is going to go meet. How in for the first time I mean madeline for the first time and Helen starts twisting a Napkin. And she's like Sh- he you know she'll steal you. She steals everything from me and then cut to Madeline and Ernest getting married and the beginning of Goldie Hawn's total downfall where she is institutionalized gains a million pounds and basically decides that she's going to destroy Madeleine's life and Ernest says while then eventually you get to Isabella Rossellini as a person with a potion. Where if you take it then you are always the same age but you have to take care of your body because you can basically become like a living corpse right. Which of course happens. And then they end up in a battle where they they both died but are the living dead and also have to be spray painted with like formaldehyde paint which sticks to corpses which is very convenient because ernest in side. Part of the story which we don't don't see but feels a whole movie unto itself becomes an alcoholic who gets like like he loses his License or whatever to be a plastic surgeon so he has to be a reconstructive. Mortician undertaker brilliant. At spray painting corpses throughs Willis is. This is like the best. Bruce Willis very level lifetime. When they've just let them be a character actor he's so fine and even this role you're like. He seems great like he's such a movie. I could not disagree more. I find so off putting interest rate so miscast off you know it was almost Kevin Kline will that would make more sense and also jeff bridges. I think auditioned and was turned down Which I was like. This is all over the map. This digging to which Bruce Willis doesn't make sense because it does feel like a little like out of his lane but I feel like I feel like he's a winking the whole time being like isn't this cool. I'm playing a guy who's not cool. All imagine me the coolest guy in the world and also they listed some names that he had suggested for the movie for like the Death Blues. Death is my lady my lady. That's a good. That's a good title though. Somebody death becomes her as a great title. Even though I don't fully understand it well it's like something that people like. Say It's like a very feels like a very addams family type line like a tee up for a joke in an addams family movie. Is it a Robert Oppenheimer joke like I am become death as you're looking at a beautiful corpse in you're like Oh doth becomes her like speak? Put that together. I don't think it's also. I am become death. Destroyer of worlds Dow her. Yeah she becomes death. Yeah I think it works both ways. Jamie and CAITLIN. Are you generally fans of this movie or not so much? I like the movie a lot but I don't think that for for the purposes of our podcast it fares not super well just because the whole thing is about two women. Fighting over nerdy Bruce Willis interest like the a they are presented as being so obsessed with like maintaining their youth but like without exploring why that might be or the implications of that or anything like that. Just seems like it's their fault. Yeah I love the movie. I think it's very silly. It's it's it gets a ten out of ten on MY RONCO METER FUN. Big Camp Energy to camp energy so can't even if it doesn't technically past the back door test it feels like in passes the like whatever happened to baby. Jane US I mean yes but also they're they're relationship. I find deep enough to make up for the fact that as individuals. There's not that much depth there But I also I just I. I think it's such a funny movie and I was surprised that when it came out it was like dings for not being like I mean at least admit that it's very funny right of your ass. Yeah I think it's also just makes people uncomfortable to think about which is a testament to what's good about it but also what makes it freaky. Yeah I mean. I think that there is something about their friendship. Even though they're both horrible people like by the end when they're His funeral and there are these two like decaying people can only hang out with each other. I mean it becomes a vampire movie basically just like we can only hang out with each other because we're the only people who have our life experience. Yeah and we're not with each other fantasy rate that like Betty and Veronica just outlive archie empires. Together I did I. I think when we were first covering I remember thinking. I wish that we knew why they dislike each other so much earlier in the movie because I feel like you find out pretty far in in a way that was like I didn't get anything extra by having that information like withheld from me for like an hour right But like once you understand it I feel like the relationship like takes off and feels like it makes more sense but it was just for the first half of the movie. I'm like wait. Why like why do they hate each other so much? Will they not tell us? I think I think we're just like meant to understand it as a boilerplate like female friendship as understood by men. Were supposed to be a twist that there's actually a solid reason why they don't like each other and I think will be Hans. Character says pretty early on that. Is that how you know? Madeleine takes everything from her steal all of her boyfriends and everything but then there's that monologue I guess it's an exchange that's like in the last portion of the movie where you know Meryl Streep Like Forces Goldie Hawn to admit that. She always thought she was cheap. Or something like say you always thought I was cheap and I was like okay so I guess there are more layers to that. But stealing someone's fiancee's like that's that's reason enough to hate and like it's an him Or or Goldie. Hawn taking Bruce Willis to see Madeleine. Show is sort of like presented as a test like it was a test is like the her and not fall in love with her. That I know we're meant to be together. And he fails the test. So Bechtel. Test but the Madeline Ashton. Yeah I truly. I truly hate that suit. Yes is part of the movie But that to me. I think I felt a little bit like this movie. Doesn't have that much respect for its characters and you feel that. It's the problem with a lot of camp for me. It's like good camp. You feel emotions about these people. Think Melodrama this to me just feels a little bit too much like yeah like or women stupid. Yeah the I think. They're compelling enough. I like the fact that you're expected to deal with like two very evil competitive like witchy women and they take it for granted like while they're in you know they'll hold your attention to evil which he men would hold your attention and I do think there are moments like I mean. I think that that Goldie Hawn's character is like more sympathetic of the two of them but even when Meryl Streep is like before she goes to see us Bella Cellini who is also incredible so they but when she's at the regular plastic surgeons and she's having her meltdown because she can't get like whatever treatment that she wants again and you see that like even though she's the person who won that particular battle like it's it's still this just punishing kind of game. She set herself up and where she has to continually beat herself being young and beautiful even though it's like against the laws of Nature. I don't that feels like even though she sucks. It's like you feel bad for somebody who's opted into that. Yeah and it's good that they're both so blatantly unlikable you know I'm not saying I want them to be softened necessarily or have some moment where it's like. Oh they're real people just like more detail about their background and friendship you better. I definitely think like works. More firm me like if I reframe it in my head is like a class commentary then as Like shirt with women relate to like from like From feminist it's hard. It's hard to make an argument for it but from a class standpoint. I feel like that's like it. Easier pill for me to swallow of like what the intent might have been. Yeah I don't know it's sort of Yada. Yada how Goldie. Hawn has the means to have her. Come up because ray supposed to be like exorbitantly expensive too because Goldie. Hawn's character became a bestselling author and only after she ocean right I. She said that she gave everything. Well I think in the original. I went like really too deep on trying to find that in the script. I think that they were both like semi making that. They were some both semi wealthy but they met at Radcliffe as opposed to being childhood friends. So assume they had like family money and then Goldie Hawn spent it all adjust for inflation because Goldie Hawn got it much earlier of course than Merrill Streep and so it was less but she gave up everything then that gave her the juice to like you know basically try and earn it all back by exploiting the fact that she looks great and writing books about it. Yeah I mean Johnny if I everything in this movie thing about this movie is how much of the transformation between when they're like old and ugly and like young and beautiful again. It's just make up and wardrobe right. Well I'm just going to present day. Goldie Hawn in Meryl Streep because like they're supposed to be older and I think so right. That's it. It looks like that was how they looked then like. Meryl Streep always looks the same. So who knows like she's apparently forty-three when she made this? I think Goldie Hawn was about fifty Goldie Hawn with forty six forty seven shampoo last night and like accidentally kind of had a Goldie. Hawn back to back. And it was very enlightening. She's but yeah he's the best. She's so good. I think this is the most like quintessential plastic surgery movie. Though I was so happy that we were watching it because I was like. You know I'd also I watched face off which we're GONNA tackle at some point too and those are the two that I always think of for plastic surgery But this one like the entire movie is just such a great way of summing up like you know the the real horror of like taking off your face and pulling it putting it back on I mean I think it just really. Maybe that's why I love it. So much is because I'm so uncomfortable with the idea of plastic surgery that I feel like this is the movie for that. You know as horrifying as an. Yeah Yeah I mean and it's like so clear in the movie that like. They're not doing it for themselves. Necessarily like it's the both of them. It's a survival move. Rather them like this is how I want my body to like just because it's like a socio economic strategy for madeline part of her career like yeah you see the opening scene of like people. Walking out of the theater like whatever stage production. She's doing and people like oh she's so old. What a ancient witch. I'm looking out on stage and it's like what are you talking about? She's like in her forties but I think what one of the conversations that we'd had about it on the episode? We did was already kind of touched on this but It's a movie like written and directed by men and it's like just their idea of like well. Women are always competing against each other and women are obsessed with being young or like maintaining youthful. Looks we have no idea why that might be. But let's make a movie about it and it's like well it's because you as men have foisted this unrealistic standard of beauty on women that like if we don't try to maintain then we're like ostracized and ridiculed and all this stuff but like men never seem to 'cause there's so there's quite a few movies about this and like they'd the male filmmakers are usually making these movies like never think to look a little further beyond like why might women be so obsessed with like try getting plastic surgery wearing makeup spending so much time on like getting ready and looking good. And it's like well it's because of you and your standards will take a quick break and be right back the podcast cannabis talk one on one with Blue Joe `Grande and the brothers that law mark and Craig Washerman it debuts on four twenty now we will cover everything in the world of cannabis from the latest in cannabis news to. Who's making waves and cannabis financial news? We will also be covering the latest cannabis laws and regulations around the country. And how they might affect you. We start on four twenty now. Let's say the canvas talk one on one on the iheartradio APP Apple. Podcasts are wherever you get your podcasts. I do think that there's something some way. I say that it makes up for that. Because that's something that you can't get away from in the film. But I think that the fact that Bruce Willis and especially the fact that it's Bruce Willis in it is like just such a putz and undesirable and so it has nothing to do with like trying to get somebody hot like it's like. There's that's like feels very intentional. There's this huge injustice that he doesn't have to keep himself up at all he just looked horrible and and like is just becoming a miserable alcoholic and meanwhile the two women in his life are just like literally killing themselves to stay you know. I don't know viable as as romantic interests and I feel like the absurdity of that is very large in. It could be a really good remake of the influencers literally. Yeah I would love to see the like build. A body trend take an on in a similar fashion with animatronic. Still Oh totally all facts. But but digital Touching up Do you guys. So we're doing this in the middle of our plastic surgery months Do you guys have any particular Thoughts or feelings about the plastic surgery industrial complex related to this film or otherwise Or or perhaps inspired by this film. Oh Man Kilindini reverse I suppose I have a complicated and ever-evolving stance on plastic surgery I've not had any done myself. I don't know that I ever would consider it but I also You know Am thirty three. And maybe when I'm like twenty years from now I'm like oh I'm GonNa want tightening or something. I don't know who knows We'LL ALL BE DEAD in thirty years. So here's could save the money. Why so and for the longest time I was like no plastic surgery horrible. You should just accept the way you were born in like do today but now I'm like well whatever. It's your body your choice like if you want to like have procedure and you're like responsible about like spending your money and if I don't know it's like do whatever you want to do. It's your body. I grew up very pro plastic surgery even though knowing that my family could afford it but like we were all like. I don't know but yeah I have a weird relationship with a as well I. Anyone should do whatever they want to do with her body But then it's but then like the reason my mom always wanted. Plastic surgery was like very like reasons connected to her own insecurities and was like very forthcoming about that. So I feel weird. I mean it's like I also would probably do it if felt so like if I had the resources and felt like this is something that like would make me feel a certain way and I and I can get past the body horror element which. I'm not sure if I could. Yeah but yeah. I don't know my mom used to like I don't know why we were so pro. But like she she would always like say that like famous share quote to us when we were like preteens and about like your boobs on your back like that quote about this. It's this famous share quote. She said where I think it was when people were giving her like the peak people giving share shit about her plastic surgeries and she just like yelled at a reporter that she can put her boobs on her back if she wants and no one can give her shit about it and I guess that really resonated with my mom an over and over and I was a kid and so I don't know yeah I like I think generally pro but I also like every time I feel like Oh if I look. I try to at least interrogate. What about. It is making me feel that way but in the end I don't know I'm really think. Yeah I'm scared of it. I don't know what I would do if I had been brought up with somebody who was at all pro because I was not so I think like all of the kids have about it or kind of like evolved out of that totally in rebellion or otherwise Or just shaded by that but But I I mean I have plenty of friends who like especially people who grow around here to where it's just like much more normalized And Yeah it's just it's I think that has a lot to do with it like kind of the culture in which you're growing up totally I on the quote by the way. If it's on my back not the quote it is if I want to put my tits on my back. It's nobody's business but my own. Yeah I yeah I remember that very see. That's funny that my mom edited it. That's the part that needs to be. I don't know yeah I think it was like an aspirational like the idea of being able to get plastic surgery was like an aspirational concept in our household and so stuff like that was a very inspiring to the group. I see I think the I think the food is always the one that resonates with me where it's like a cost slaughter money to look this cheap like because then a kind of divorces it or it's like a rejection of the idea that it is like a status symbol or economic status symbol. That is just sort of like a expression personal. Always saying though that she wanted to look like the Like the prostitutes Tan who she thought like the most beautiful women are all which is like. I don't know it's just like cool. Bring your own values to it like whatever it doesn't need to be about one particular ideal that you're trying to replicate That's sort of the wiggle room. I find with that. I don't know I just always think about where these MTV true life episodes about people getting plastic surgery and they were about just like regular people who saved up their whole life to get him plastic surgery and then they would get it and they would like still not be happy with themselves. That was always the message was like there was the calf implants guy that US on an entourage plot line once got CALF IMPLANTS. Then he was like now. I want to get back in plants. It's just like it sort of starts at chain. It feels like if I did this one thing. What else can I do? Especially with rich people that there's like a slippery slope of like just doing everything on the table because you're being given access to it. Which is what I death becomes. Her is also good about. It's like fray get if you start going down this road it is a commitment and you can't just undo it. You put in maintenance yeah you've opted into a lifestyle and a certain kind of like yeah personal maintenance thing and I feel like you know it. I think it's shorthand and the phone but like the fact that takes place in Beverly Hills just sort of a way to say like yes like everybody around them is doing this. This is just sort of the way. It is one of my favorite things about the the fact that it's like they're underlining so much the beverly hills ness of it is. The hospital is like the hospital. Beverly Hills for our our where we were this episode hospitals in Beverly Hills Hospital. And it's like the Beverly Hills Hotel. Yes signature wallpaper. Is The hospital curtains. And I only know that signature wallpaper because I am friendly with a real estate agent who posted A listing the other day and I was like that looks fancy and I clicked it and I saw that it had the this. You know kind of banana leaf wallpaper. And I was like. Who has that wallpaper that I know and then I was like no? It's no one you know of the Beverly Hills Hotel pinker signature. It has a name but I forget what the name is kind of Wallpaper And then there's like pink trim around the the doors of the hospital hospital. It's some credit. It's like a bar hospital great to that. Yeah they also seemed to be a different points dress like I just because I was going into it with like a Robertson Mc as mindset. He seems to be like dressing. Goldie Hawn up like exactly like Jessica Rabbit at one point like are you referencing yourself. Like will he does reference different moment. Here's what it is so Goldie Hawn says the exact date that she took the potion. And it's October twenty. Six nineteen eighty-five go back to the temporal junction. Point of the Space Time Continuum Man. I like the. He's building a secret extended universe for love that this movie is very cartoony. It's very also like Tex. Avery cartoon the way the Jessica Rabbit is for sure. That is the best thing about it and I watched this back to back with birds of prey. Which I know you guys are GonNa talk about also just like love. Just people getting bopped on the head. Sometimes stare falls where there's like ten seconds of somebody just like waving their arms. Try stairs so good. Yeah the pratfalls are I mean. That's the thing too. It's like how many movies are there. That are just like a comedy starring. Two women just doing a lot of physical comedy. Yeah Yeah I mean. I think that the silliness of it is sort of. It's it's like saving grace 'cause it's You know you can. You can ding it. However you want for Not Maybe being as its perspective being a little stunted as far as women's relationships with each other women's relationships to beauty but it's also just like such a farce that that's kind of the the the degree to which is a farce like so. I think especially for the time like technically well done that. Yeah and it really does feel like it takes place in the same universe as tales from the crypt. Yay for sure I love. There's also the point to be made that. When the women fall down the stairs they fall in the hit every single stare and break their bodies intellect these broken marionette things at the bottom. But then when Bruce Willis throws himself. He tries to kind of throw himself down the stairs of this lake. You know I I don't know actually if it's great if it was shot at Greystone. Yeah Okay Yeah. He throws himself off intending to kill himself and instead he falls like through a ceiling and into a pool and survives. And it's you know it's like the whole thing is he's yeah he's just putz he's like they're they make fun of him constantly as being just a loser and he's being fought over by like too much more interesting women who then like they fall down the stairs and they get like totally destroyed but he ha- he tries it down the nothing happens to him. He's answering. Yes do a lot of people when they saw this movie for the first time came out of it like shipping. Golden Meryl's characters on a big lake. Lgbt classic it's like a huge like drag queen and there's so many good drag interpretations of Oh yes. Yeah throughout the whatever happened to baby. Jane is the test tonight. Just both always are obsessed with it's called Psycho biddy love and I love that phrase okay. It's the best it's movies about. It's like horror movies about the societal. Like fear of older women. And there's a bunch of them from the seventies made by the person who may whatever happened to baby Jane Yeah A lot of them are called Lake. Who Slew Aunt through the hell in one with how the matter with Helen Christians to check out? What's the matter with Helen? Involved Shelley winters and a tap dance school for children so it's real to death becomes her because her name is also Helen. Goes I love. I love that genre because it is like. Oh these these characters are actually like the most interesting people in the world. I mean in a way. That's also what I enjoy about the real housewives right. Yeah which is like an. It's like at the end of the day even though they're terrible and the and the same with housewives it's like the sort of kind of terrible representation of women that's put out by man It's still like their rage at the end of the day and their lake kind of bitterness and anger towards the four olds feels very earns. 'cause yeah and the real housewives of New York especially it's like a lot of them were married when the show started out. But now they're all singly in the all being single but they're all stuck with each other outweigh. Were there like okay. We're a bunch of like five single women in our sixties out when they meet a man they all just like trash each other over. I will say that my biggest actual complaint with the movie as far as like what it saying. Or whatever is just the Ernest Bruce Willis. His character is the only person two of the main characters that we know to like resist the lure of the potion which is just like. I don't feel like he would. I feel like he's such like why is he the person who'd be like no? I WanNa have a great life and died naturally and you know I don't care about being young forever like so. It really puts it on the women for having these expectations for what they're supposed to what their life is supposed to look like at the same time like they found the potion of their own volition but he they like him on the head and dragged him into place to try they just WanNa keep him around. Is there like forever undertaker? Yeah Jesus cosmetology Oh. This is my other question about the the the kind of the way that everything works with the Persian is it. Are they only having their problems because they did Kinda die? And then they so you notice when Goldie Hawn is is shot in the stomach she goes into the into the fountain and there's blood everywhere and I think the same thing with madeline when he's trying to fix up madeline. There's a big bucket of something that's supposed to be her blood and Gus the deal is is that your body is like kind of preserved as if alive like you're basically alive but if you die than your blood drains out and like the injuries that uses stain can't really heal it. They were only really dead after they after they got shot. Yeah Yeah Kill. Isabella Rossellini character seem. She's like I'm seventy years old and she looks very youthful. Yeah and I guess the idea is that she hasn't died or Elvis are all the people she said. Take good care of your body. You'll have don't die. Apparently in one draft she was going to be Cleopatra which is why there's residual ancient Egyptian staff so much science. Yeah great of course. Who wouldn't throw Bruce Willis away? They could go live with this Isabel. Rossellini forever. She seems to have the best life of anybody. She has Bobbio as her bodyguard. Yes Tom Harrier her body does well. There's some interesting naming conventions I suppose in this movie because it's Helen and madeline but they nickname each other. Hell and mad man. Okay got it because if you put them all together I read this in the IMDB Trivia. It's matter in hell matter than how earn Hell uh-huh interesting told you guys I was like I love this movie. I'm going to read everything. I can open a whole genre of like anything that has like a fear of like something going on with a woman's body in it in any way it's like all really like reclaimable stuff is like the good thing. Yeah well and I think the matter in helping also just feels like it backs up my idea that this is about female rage more than anything else like that. It's it's it's it comes through in the form of these Drastic cosmetic procedures and door potions. But it's also just about how fundamentally furious these women are with you know what the world is for them I don't know which is like kind of why it's fun. I like that radio. Do you guys like I have not seen. Never seen she double what does the other like? Meryl Streep Versus Roseanne And Meryl Streep plays another ridiculous woman in it very well. She plays like famous romance novelist. She Ruins Roseanne's life and then Roseanne comes to get revenge we. When did that come out late? Eighties early nineties. I think it was like Roseanne's first and probably only movie. But they used to show it on comedy central. It was always uncovered central. Apparently death becomes her had an ending a theatrical ending that they didn't like in the screenings and changed where Bruce ends up with tracey Ullman and they run over Madeline and Goldie Hawn with a car and like have a happy ending and everybody hated it. They were like okay. We have can see. Yeah Yeah I like them. 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43. National Lampoon's Vacation (1983)

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43. National Lampoon's Vacation (1983)

"And when is it me and Jason Down by the beach and furnace N._S.. Scotland and here's Jason leading the PEP rally at Ridell high go Rhino Rangers Oh and here's me in a red bandelier diaper threatening a whole bunch of people with gun. I don't quite understand why but Jason Whitewater rafting blindfolded Jason on the Staten Island Ferry Jason Eating meatball meatball subs in Santa Monica even pizza fishing with dynamite forging literary ephemera playing guitar and awards show and me apologizing to the crowd for what happened while he was playing guitar on an award show anyway it was a lot of fun and we're both tanned rested and ready to get back to the full cast and crew grind with vacation back to work with vacation vacation. All I ever wanted Chris as a great American poet once said national lampoon vacation Chevy Chase who else is in the movie. I think that's it. It's Jerry. It's his one heavy. I know you're not in a vegetative Gwyneth. Paltrow was in the event and the fact that she doesn't know anybody else. I saw I think Chevy Chase is like that just in real life the you know what when I saw that story and the stories I guess someone asked. How did it come up? Do you remember he got a premier for something. They were together with Sebastian Stan who somebody the else in this again the the newest six hundred and then some intrepid reporter was like Gwyneth of course you know Sebastian and she's like Oh nice to meet you and he was in and four movies together probably do not share any scenes. Now I read something that was kind of spun on about this movie written by John Hughes was directed by Harold Ramos. This was kind of like a real appreciation of it came out in Vanity Fair and it was something to the effect of like. It's one of those movies that you you may not have seen in ten years but it's there in your consciousness yeah. I haven't seen this movie in many many years. I was pleasantly surprised how well it held up and and I'm going to have a hot. Take Mad. One hundred hot take sound effects for my unsupported opinions. Jason's hot takes. Here's my heartache ready now. After I make my hot take him up to go back over the next few weeks and do the actual research to see if it backs up but I'm pretty sure that one I'm about a stroke. I think this is the greatest Chevy Chase movie that he ever made. I don't think there's another movie that holds up as well. I'm what I'm talking about movies where he is the starter so caddyshack doesn't count in that math overflow. That's classic comedy because I think that's a supporting role okay but in movies where he's The star all these vacations spinoff movies fletch will I will give a lukewarm take because I made the I don't know if it was a mistake or not of doing a lot of the research yesterday a more watching interesting approach reading about him looking at his I._M._D._b.. Did that in King. I did that and make this up a big. No I looked at the page and I tried to say what are the other great Chevy Chase Lee performing. I went into watching the movie be with that in mind and I agree part of it. Is You know he was never asked to do as much acting again. He is in cried forgotten. How how funny he is unbelievable and this is an actual character as opposed to just playing himself never met the man but I think I can go out and Muslim even caddyshack that character plays to those strengths drinks yes but what's great about this? He's he's just like a Dud Dad and the convergence of the well-meaning of the character and his lack lack of well-meaning is as a person and his just brilliant dry comic timing. I think he hit the nail on the head. The crucial flaw in many other Chevy Chase lead performances formalizes is that the whole movie is always constructed around his character being the smartest person in the whole movie and then that plays up the mean-spirited comedy comedy which still in a lot of these other movies his physical comedy is unparalleled in the eighties nineties or two thousand. I think you'd have to go back Legends Friends of Silent Film Comedy Charlie Chaplin. That's how good he is unbelievable. I just watched a clip before you came in and I noticed get another brilliant physical thing which was a handshake that he gives Eugene Levy's car-salesman character and they shake hands with each other and they both have the most milk toast limp handshakes intakes. They actually don't even like grip hands they do this and it's such a little subtle thing and in the making of doc that I shared with you. A lot of the people say much of the time on the movie was spent with them coming up with little stuff like that so there are some really chevy chase movies. I WANNA actually watch because I'm kind of interested in them. I haven't seen foul play that sounds like something that could potentially be good Goldie Hawn Chevy Chase or just meredith like escape from which mountain I remember growing up catching bits of foul play on T._v.. And their you know spoiler for nineteen play. They're being pursued by these two hit men one of whom is a little person in one of whom is now Mino Yup and as a kid it was such a surreal image and the strangeness of that Made It look terrifying to me so I think I would love to watch that. I would also like to watch one thousand nine hundred Oh heavenly dog Charles Grodin Jane Seymour Benji like Benji mingy dogs in the title literally starring Benji seems like Old Times the Neil Simon at a nation which stars Chevy and Goldie Hawn Charles Grodin. There's some good movies around here. In the nineteen eighty eighty one eighty two you have around caddyshack which is nineteen eighty <music> after you get past flex and I really love the first fletch watch a little of fletch lives. I was like Yikes sort of some cringe worthy embarrassing storylines in that one the first which which is good but it does suffer from a little bit of what you were referencing which is like when he's the smartest guy in the movie. The character takes on some of those proportions but yes the saving ving grace in vacation is that I think Chevy having to play the Schlub yeah the dad who isn't the smartest one in his own family critically. That's like the most is critically important thing. Beverly genitals character is smarter than him the very first thing in the movie he's cheated by Eugene. Levy's car salesman is it because he's he's just zip because he doesn't want to lose face or status because he's so excited about taking the trip that he's sort of cutting his losses. Whatever it is or or you know could be all of those things you feel some sympathy for him even when he's being a jerk? Let's play a little of this first grade scene which is Chevy and Anthony Michael Hall all as Rusty Getting Ready to pick up their brand new car for their exciting cross country road trip to wally world and Eugene Levy plays zipcar salesman about two totally rip Chevy off Mr Griswold. I do a proven right rusty. Okay look. I can't wait so it's bringing training yeah. I took it away a couple of seconds ago. <hes> let's go with it. Okay the new one wouldn't come in yet. We were on the way to California in the morning warning the big vacation the whole family while they were. They were very exciting well there. She is choir here. This is not the car orders. Take it easy Rusty Ed <hes> this is not the car I ordered. I distinctly ordered the Antarctic Arctic Blue Super Sports Wagon C. in the Optional Rally Fund Pack. You didn't order the metallic metallic P. No Antarctic include the sports wagon. This isn't even the right model. You know. I think you're right. I don't think this is the car. This is the new wagon Queen Family trumpster. This is <hes> there's a damn fine automobile you want my honest opinion. Beats the hell out of the sports wagon but I wanNA make you happy that import. I'll get to the bottom of this. Mr Ed Griswald order to blue sports wagon. Where is it? I don't know so I know what must have happened then come in at I'm not your ordinary everyday fool okay now. I'd like my aunt Arctic Blue Super Sports Wagon right now and if you can't get it for me I'm GonNa take my business elsewhere whereas my old car and the car is shown with forklifts going through the Windows Chevy's performance and this is phenomenal. It's everything that makes him great as a comedian and he gets to do so much stuff without like inflection fletch is a lot of costumes. There's a lot of a lot of disguises and all that kind of stuff and some of that is funny and helps plan to the characters but I wanNA watch this again for the subtlety you saw the handshake right yeah even when he's was just nodding his head like a moron at the show good the character what's great about anomaly cut the smartness or his self importance but it makes him sympathetic one thing that he does throughout throughout the whole movie is he thinks he knows what he's talking about. He thinks he's high status and he will take what other people say and in that scene where rusty eighty six like a easy russ literally repeats says and then later he ends up repeating a lot of stuff that Eugene Levy says to his wife when he finally gets back with this monstrosity the great line he's like you think you hate it now but wait till you drive it and the car is just brilliantly knocking and refuses to stop running in the driveway his brand new car the the other great saving grace about National Lampoon's vacation is the Lampoon's spirit is still strong in the darkly cynical take about about American suburban life it hasn't yet turned the corner as a brand as it would in later films and it's still impressive to think that this was allowed to get onto the screen <hes> and I think the reason it probably was was because it feels more warm and cuddly than it really is. Oh Yeah like you can look at it on the surface it just be like it's a great road trip movie which it is but I mean it doesn't pull many punches about its characters and about the thing that sending up and it really reminds me of the best parts of Early Day National Lampoon stuff which the D._n._a. of this still yet maintains and were you a regular reader of the magazine I mean I was too young in the late seventies ladies and eighties to really be paying attention to the magazine then later in my teenage years when I started getting into things like monty python and early David Letterman yes as you go back to that stuff right and you get the magazines and you read through them in the same way that you would read mad magazine cover to cover in the era actually as a company we flirted a little bit with trying to help get the brand sort of revitalized maybe seven or eight years ago from the current rights holders of the Lampoon Tempur brand because like mad magazine which I guess unceremoniously announced its ceasing publication a couple of weeks ago. You'll only poon in recent years hasn't had the position in the culture that it had been totally I was surprised and I did not know that John Hughes wrote the script for National Lampoon's vacation and then when I heard that I assumed even through watching the movie well sure he may have written some John Hughes Esq Touchy feely family vacation movie but someone else Chevy Chevy Chase Harold Raymond Ramos someone else put all this acid in there but as we were talking about yesterday when Hollywood reporter had reprinted John Hughes's original one thousand nine hundred in seventy nine story that he wrote it's all in there called vacation fifty eight. It's all in fact it's even darker. Oh Yeah Clark as well shoots did he shoot and kill Walt Disney and he the result of the key kills him but I think he shoots him in the leg and he ends up in jail which is similar to the original ending of the film to go back to the acid tongue known as I think part of it comes from the original stories vacation fifty eight we're not too far away from whatever one might say of the Golden and in age of the of American stuff trump wants us to get back to making great again that's but like the post war yeah the urban ideas suburban suburban ideal as well as consumerism which still seemed like it could be good in this is coming at a time. We're just far enough away to they're still a little bit of sweetness or some amount gauntness <unk> so that the acidity is overwhelming and not and it's not so dark it's on a knife edge there. It's similar to Greece almost in that way because Greece itself as we talked about when it came amount was looking back at fifty Greece or culture from the perspective of really the late sixties yeah and saying gee wasn't it simpler and easier than in its own way even as it was fucked up and I think this to sends up a lot of suburban American family stuff white suburban American family stuff and that to me is the saving grace and that makes the movie a comedy classic without that stuff. You have just a lesser one thousand nine hundred eighty s Chevy chase vehicle since that's always reasonably entertaining. You've kind of way you can get away with it not to digress too early into Chevy and the recent controversies. It's amazing a the length of the career in the last ten years I would say he's probably better known for controversies leaving the voicemail for Dan Harmon whom he fought quite a bit when he was pure software and on Community New Yorker Profile of Donald Glover featured some unflattering reminiscences of Chevy supposedly trying to interrupt Donald Glover's process s on the set but then it also I think included some of Chevy's supporters or Chevy's take that like well. My character is supposed to be sort of this this bumbling inadvertently racist old white guy and so some of that dynamic can bleed through. I always get the sense with Chevy that some people love him and in a lot of people hate him. I'm talking with people that have worked with him. Yeah one thing I think is absolutely true. Not Knowing the truth of any of these controversies you can hear the voicemail. He left Dan Harmon if you want to look for it the back story story is that at the wrap party they'd had a tough season and Chevy was fighting for his characters comedy and and felt that he was always being edited and that all the stuff that Chevy does <hes> was being cut out and he was basically just being rendered into a fairly limp and inert Sitcom sitcoms performance and some of that may be true in Harman's subsequently is kind of like yeah. I was a little out of my mind then and maybe I wasn't quite as attentive to stuff as I could have been whatever the truth of it is at the wrap party. Dan harmon famously led the entire room which included Chevy his wife and one of Chevy's daughters in a fuck you chevy chant meaning to be funny Chevy got very offended and when he got home that night he called and left Dan Harmon the famous voicemail and in it he basically says you. You know you think that's funny. I need to do that in front of my my wife and my daughter just rips Dan Orbit Yeah. You're not funny. You're okay like in the most damning even Dan Harmon and says the most damning thing that he said the Arrow in my heart was when he goes. You're not funny. You're okay which I think ironically had been levied at Chevy by. I think Bill Murray and Chevy had a famous fight backstage back in the day S._N._l.. And I think Bill Murray leveled that accusation at Chevy wow in those people to be my you see. That's the way with his your ear now as a kid you out your in my point is there's context it makes it somewhat understandable to be pissed off. Even though Chevy's own behavior on the set is acknowledged to be difficult now. Is it in pursuit of comedy because he's done some interesting things. I got the feeling looking at the the last ten years of his I._M._D._b.. Page that he's willing to pursue the comedy wherever it may end up taking him when your Chevy Chase and you do Chevy Chase things. It's probably very hard to find places to do that. Stuff famously had many failed TV series. Do a lot of voice work has appeared in a bunch of things that are probably beneath him looking at his I._M._D._b.. Page that's to me what jumps out. I'm sure the people involved in shelby this thing about a dog a family comedy but I'm sure it's perfectly nice but why and it doesn't look like it has room for his acid cynical take yet is he finding a subversive way to weave it in there for better or worse or is it just the the only kind of job Bono's acting as a cruel profession and I think as you age whether you're certainly if you're a woman but even if you're a man in the business you know how many of these roles those are grandpa and that's what happens when you're late sixties early seventies but I do think you could look at his I._M._D._b.. Page and say that for better for worse. Here's a guy who is in pursuit of where we're the laughs art and is willing to go there would himself in stuff in order to try and find it but of course the iconic Chevy Chase stuff going back to the early National Lampoon and poon stuff lemmings S._N._l.. He was probably best suited for a firing on. All cylinders live television entity not like S._N._l.. That's a great use of Chevy's presence and energy to actually also last night ended up watching the last half of planes trains and automobiles heels on another John Hughes movie with very different take and a much sweeter take on the genre of the road picture and it was a really good comparison because while that's a hilarious movie and John Candy is forever in that movie Montauk about visual facial and physical brilliance like Wow oh John Candy was so fucking good and so heartbreaking that's John Hughes to he wrote this movie and he wrote that movie what year was planes trains and automobiles good question. I'M GONNA say a eighty four so not too far. That's eighty seven this is this is eighty three him out so he wrote the reason why I think of that it. Is You know it's interesting that it would become like you said it's similar ground and yet a little bit sweeter and a little bit. Let's say kinder to the older generation reading about vacation vacation yeah they were saying that Chevy and Herald Ramos did quite a bit of rewriting shifting the focus from the teens. The original story is from the point of view Just on the teenagers it would be just another entry in John. Hughes's oeuvre yeah everybody would talk about how his real genius is observing a pretty small slice of teenage life in terms of class race and stuff like that he's got a pretty narrow focus yes and yet he does find something close to universal in a lot of that and he is excellent at it but then he grows up a few years later had probably had a kid of his own he goes from being more of a child to being more of an adult and that will change your your perspective. The John Hughes John Hughes Yeah I would think and like King of the hill Mike Judge. I remember you entering him. Being interviewed news talking about he did office space at at a certain point where he was used to be like screaming to them and then a few years later he made extract which was the view of management. It was not as Chris. I trust me been there. No the territory well if you're lucky you do go from one to the other two sides and the kids are great to this is another thing. I think about vacation usually when you have kids in movies. It's pretty bad I mean the opportunity to have somebody who has the acting ability in the comedic. Timing of someone like a young Lindsay. Lohan is incredibly rare. They don't grow on trees. Most kids in movies. Don't fit the bill. They're just not good enough actors and when you have imaging coca beverly Dangelo Chevy Chase those are your scene partner's earners for ninety percent of the movie. You better be able to hang their. Yes and both of these two original kids are able to hang and his crazy. They replaced both of them because I guess Anthony Michael Hall opted to do weird science instead of the sequel and when he didn't WanNa do the sequel they were like okay. We'll just recast both kids because I guess they thought it would be less weird to recast to than to have a new rusty and an old whatever her name is Audrey Chevy Chase himself guy. It's great to be with you. I didn't want to take this vacation. I'm glad I did give me a chance to spend a lot more time. I'm with you and <hes> Audrey ordering in the making of documentary when speaking to no excuse me take it back. I did end up reading this oral history of Christmas vacation just to get some anecdotes context and they were talking Juliette Lewis. She becomes the third oh she does. She's the third Audrey Johnny Lucky. I knew that but they were saying that by that third one that has become the bit that they're going to just show US different. Ones is each church which I have to insure that until just yesterday. I must have lines like that. Dana Barron was great as Audrey yes in typical hall so weird to watch talk doc because he's so funny light on screen and then when you talk to him he's an documentary he so non verbal yeah and hulking being right. He's like such a menacing presence and then you look at this like braces clad kid in you know the breakfast club. How do these two coexist. I wonder if one's like a response. He was like Oh my gosh. I'm so do not want to stay the nerdy kids that he made his career on that. He got jacked jacked. When Marty Simmons the head of the National Lampoon at the time they're making this movie and Harold Ramos you know saw fifty kids to play rusty and none of them could do it and then Anthony Michael Hall came in famously -Til addition room just did it and he was like this kid is an incredible activities just being himself and they were like you've got the part. The only caveat is you need to keep the braces basis and he was like Oh man I was a teenager and I was so close to getting them off and then I had to leave the braces on you referenced the first ending which involve them going to Roy Wallis home taking him hostage at gunpoint and making him perform for them this that did not work in a test screening they had to re shoot a new ending which which is when you see in the movie where they go to the theme park and they have photos on the set is hilarious. Anthony Michael Hall group probably eight inches in the several months that that took and he's actually a head taller when he was in just the scene previous. I'd forgotten that he was on S._N._l.. For a year and that he was the youngest ever cast member was he he was seventeen. Wow how I think anybody in our age cohort like he is so recognizable as in certain teen archetype yet. He was an eighties archetype and yet yet. He tried to get away from that at some point. He turned down a role in pretty in pink and I wonder what he'd been Duckie. Do you think or Blaine I mean that to me seems like it would have been so far from the type that he was playing that. Maybe he knows that and Ferris Buehler's Day off. I Dow down for Farris thing if it turned that down wow I wanna see who he was Jon Cryer. He's GonNa he's GonNa play duckie. Does it say say Bueller what he would've played. Anthony Michael Hall is convinced Hughes wrote the part of Ferris for him and then a falling out between the two affected that <hes> despite Hughes saying that Matthew Broderick was his first choice for the role so maybe that had to do with some pretty in pink was before Ferris Buehler's Day off. I think so too anything Anthony Michael Hall had a little trouble recently. He got some police trouble. Oh really well he. He had some physical altercations. I think he recently few years ago. We had some other additional problems <hes> but he managed to do a very tricky turn which is to go from that braces pimple oranje teenage archetype to this interestingly interior heavy president to counteract that turn. Let's just have a little one of my favorite throwaway scenes which is chevy singing in the car. Maybe the only Paul Robeson shout out in comedy in the nineteen eighties. It went over where everybody's heads. That's how subversive sweet cherry coming for to carry romy home swing low jerry looked over Jordan and what did I see commodore to carry me home. Banner income's income's what smells Russ Russ your feet. I could watch that kind of stuff from him all day long because it's it's his is it's what what he's doing with his fingers. It's how he bungles the words. When you watch interviews with Chevy he's always doing a bit. There are moments where he talks honestly and openly but universally universally if you've ever really print interview. Chevy chase he gets into trouble because the bits don't translate into print and it just comes across like he's a Dick which perhaps he is but when you watch him do it you understand. What's going right whether you like it? Don't like I've read so many interviews with the last couple of days that don't get that it's a bit but he's just a fascinating accordingly weird singular comedic presence that I don't think we have another one like that. I mean if the ones that come about that were so lauded to be Eh rubbery. Physical Comedians of that type didn't really have the subtle intellectual <unk> sarcasm and Sardonic Donna thing that Chevy always has going on and the Jim Carey for example is it and he sort of borders on and to versus being a leading man on his way. There was something I think about when you think of most comedians like you said whether rubber-faced Jim Carey's a handsome guy and his own way but it was is it was a goofy cartoon character as opposed to Chevy who everybody describes as being sort of Suave and sophisticated and that kind of and I think that's also a kind of <hes> humor. That's fallen out of favor a little. That's part of it too that. There's no one of that like <hes> but you could also see again. He might be a case study where it having those two things meet don't quite lead to the best outcomes in terms of personality because to be as high status as you have to think you are in order to balance balance. All of those things like you're running on this kind of poison which can help but make your make your life difficult. I think it's a good point and he gets painted a lot as rich kid grip and privilege in New York City but lot Chevy's talked a lot about their some what he alludes to in a lot of interviews as some abuse that took place in his childhood doesn't really specify what type but he says in a couple interviews something to do with his mother and his stepfather and he won't get into that because he says I've got living brothers and sisters and it's not appropriate for me to get into what my I take on. It was so I think Chevy has that thing that a lot of Comedians have the stereotype of the darkness but he also has that patrician part of him that leading man part of him comes from being in that I wanted to say mill you but now I'm GonNa about using any French oriented words because all the great comics comics do they observe and then deliver it back to us in a way that tips us off to the thing that they're pointing the finger at you know you just played that clip of Chevy singing something that struck me is the scene before that where both he danced together. Yes what's great is now. I didn't realize this <hes>. Beverly Dangelo started started her career as not just the stage actress but particularly as a musical actress famous for being in hair so she likes those chops you for saying don't see easy. What I loved about. That scene is I guess the difference between looking at it from the point of view Brazilian nels point of view is like they sound really good at and yet to hear the the kids in the back of just like you guys size because that's true view if they actually were singing badly sadly it would not be as funny totally but they are enjoying themselves and I think it's somebody put when describing the character and one of the things that I read you know. Here's this guy who's probably not a great dad in the sense that he doesn't see kids ever. He's got his two weeks vacation and he's going to make the most of the amount of joy and like freedom yes that he is trying to cram in there like to me. That's what that singing was about a finally getting a chance to not only be with his kids but also be with his wife and let down his his era ears. It made me think the way we take vacations. Now is families is so different from the eighties when you really did pile into a car and go places air travels become much more something. I think everyone did even the eighties it was. I can't remember getting on a plane to go on vacations that much even when I went and spent summers with my dad's somewhere was a driving thing so it is the end of that era a two of everyone being in the car together which just sounds like a nightmare already have more than one child in a car travelling for more than forty five minutes. It's it's a nightmare when he's talking to Roy Wally in the end and they're talking about going on road trips in sort of reminiscing across generations even mentioned like oh it's smells and everybody's back there and I know that both cast and crew was brought to you by two different guys on a bench a new comedy series from American Band Star Ryan Anal Flanagan two different guys on a bench where Ryan talks to Ryan on a bench. We keep the comedy simple folks two different guys on a bench videos. This can be found now on facebook at chocolate comedy like and Follow Chuck Ller for the latest and greatest short form comedy videos juggler original comedy delivered daily Great Story About Roy Wally. The Guy who plays him Eddie Bracken Eddie Bracken who was a great comedic actor of the nineteen forties. I guess yes and they couldn't find anyone who looked convincingly enough like Walt Disney which is who was referenced in the original story that John Hughes wrote and of course they needed to change change it because Walt Disney world famous. Chris never closes right so plot device and also there's no way they're going to be able to fill out. I think that's probably has more than two very good reasons so they found Eddie Bracken who was doing dinner theater in New Jersey S.. He was born in Nineteen fifteen so in nineteen what visit eighty three eighty three yet so he's almost almost almost seventy. I'll tell you about it doesn't sound is not today. You know he's doing dinner theater in Montclair. New Jersey and he looked amazingly like Walt Disney right. I think in the picture for the dinner theater he had a little Milo mustache and they're like there. Is that scene in that ending. I hadn't realized that there was the original ending even even filmed and that they tested and I think is probably <hes> on the D._v._d.. It's on you can watch it that was fascinating to read just how different it was and especially because because it how this is GonNa Save. It's a great win and figured out how to do that quickly but you know it was interesting to hear how Ramos talk about it because like it makes sense. That's in sharp the storage doing of course it's going to and then but then can you imagine the horror of the screening. When you realize whole shit this does not not work as the laughing for eighty minutes and then Zeile ran it then nothing but then by seeing it and having a you know a a great comedic mind you realize what is it that we're missing and actually he's pretty articulate in that documentary of of the payoff of getting to wally world yes has to U._b.. There some totally makes perfect sense. I also struck by thing that Herald Ramos the late Herald. Ramos said they thought it was so smart. He said another director told him the only time you're making the movie worse as a director is during the filming of the movie because when you're working on the screenplay screenplay what are you doing. You're making it better Chris. What do you think about this scene. We can do better your your your plumbing it out when you're in the edit. You're taking what you have and you're making it work making it better right. The only time you're making the movie worse is when you're actually shooting it which is both the greatest end like the most horrifyingly true advice for anybody who's ever been on any kind of asset. Yes so <hes> yeah. I think that the save on the ending was great it works great and I also think the tone of the movie is such a save for the movie movie because it's pitched not in realism this is sort of heightened and everyone is kind of in a special place that exists only in the movies almost stagey for example crushing the car on the lot at the time. Yes that's not naturalistic but it is kind of realistic because you feel pressured. He can't back out making external yeah rather making it objective in the sense of like now the cars flattened. That's the reason and you know they talk about Harold Ramos as well as I think it was the associate producer in talking about they're seen in a Saint Louis and how they look back on it and kind of cringe. Let's play that same because I thought that was interesting. There's the one thing Harold Raymond said you know if I was doing it again. I wouldn't put that scene in the movie yeah I.. I think it works perfectly because the focus of the send-up is the coolest white people so yes you have stereotypes that are used could deliver that but the joke is always on the griswold yeah. I mean probably with hindsight he could do it in a way that feels less than it's relying on the stereotype. Here's a little bit out of it. They pull into East St Louis. What are you doing relax on. This is so dangerous dangerous. We have no business area like this. Well look at it this way honey. This is a part of America. We never get to see that's good. No that's bad I mean <hes> we can't close your eyes to the plight of the city's gets noticing all his plight. Just make us appreciate what we have. In Paris is OUGHTA. Get back on the expressway. Pardon me. I wonder if you could tell me. Get back on the expressway but Tom. Thank you very much. The writing is sharp is yeah. I know it's it's a scene from a movie that exists in Nineteen eighty-three yeah and how do I miss says you know that's probably the one <unk> seem he wouldn't include in the film today. It's so much in the consciousness. It's a pop culture classic. It has spawned. I was surprised at how many sequels equals only seen European vacation I think I don't think I've seen anything you're like. I've ever watched European vacation ever watch Christmas vacation. I never saw the Vegas. People like the Christmas one factor the Vegas one existed that there was a straight to video sequel with Randy Quaid. I think really like a spin off that is considered part of the thing it's nice to visit non crazy randy quaid in the movies. I'll tell you that Randy Quaid. He sounds like a real Donald Star killers. He and his wife have a conspiracy theory. Sorry that there is a cabal that exists to target Hollywood celebrities and portray them as insane in order to discredit their activist vist work <hes> and I think they've made a documentary that lays all this out in excruciating detail next week we will also be appearing at the area fifty fifty. One five hundred thousand people show up be organized on social media. Oh good maybe can get ride from them. Whole Randy Quaid visiting scene is fucking brilliant. Yeah Ah Jank Rakowski which I didn't realize that until reading about this he's fantastic. She's so funny. Stirring the Kool aid with her hand. We have to play her iconic line. It's just one of the greatest so this is audrey meeting her cousin. I'M GONNA study and French Kiss. It does that yeah. Jedi says I'm the best data that is just so little. It's a little more tart now. Post Jeffrey Epstein Casting Director did a phenomenal job finding these kids and that weird kid who plays her brother brother. Who is that kid. I remember him from eighties. John P naven junkie Canadian Junior. What else was he recognizable face and it houses in tax I think is the biggest thing but then silver spoons facts of life. What are you sure I remember his. Last credit is from nineteen ninety-three. Has he been since one thousand nine hundred three. Just just join this thing challen Eh he might have gotten himself a real. He wasn't in the making of doc wasn't no he was actually the first patron on cheers. He actually utters the first line of the show in episode one. Oh wow how about a beer chief. He comes into the bar with fake. I._D.'s turned down by Sam than attempts to get sumner and Diane to buy one. I also remember room as ox on silver spoons. Oh that's he was always kind of that lies. Alex Smart Talking Kid here because he's got. There's something about his face that looks a little bit tough yup up and I think he was a child actor even as a kid there's a disconnect between being a kid and also looking kinda tough. He's that kid yeah. From the era era there were things in this movie that I forgot and how funny they were such as such as I had forgotten completely about all the desert stuff after they run off the road first of all the speech he gives rusty you talking about when they're having the man to man before. He sets off her for Chevy Chase. You know what I WANNA do. When I was your age my dad shared a beer with me and I thought it was the best thing in the world. When I was a boy just about every summer we'd take a vacation vacation and you know eighteen years. We never had fun but now I have my own family family and we're on our own vacation and you know something. Russ what that we're GONNA have fun. Thank you can have fun. Hey don't let your mother smell that beer on your breasts. You'll take it out on me. Okay well. I better get a move on if I want to get us out of here by dark. Good toxin doc the earnestness of the writing but you could tell there's a little bit easier. The physical thing of his glasses being broken falling off while he's trying to have this moment leading Rushdie's visual. Oh comedy take precedence over the Monologue Chevy is giving that actually help keep him in a place where we can appreciate him as opposed to overwhelming the scene. Yes the funny visual casual thing. is that Rusty's killing an entire beer. I think what we know. There could be some like I don't want that going on during my speech in that scene I'd forgotten how genius the montage of Chevy stumbling through the desert was screenplay. It's like three shot montage as Chevy makes his way through an increasingly parched desert yeah loses more and more of his clothing but the physical stumbling mumbling the things that he saying is so fucking brilliant yeah the Lawrence of Arabia al-Majeida shot ah crests over the sand Dune and then his voice at the gas station when he's reunited thirsty the Chris Christie Brinkley. We have to mention that I mean I think they handle it well in that the few lines that she does have they make it work it would have been maybe a little bit pure and better to just keep her the macguffin you can see her visually but you don't really have a scene where she and Clark almost get together in the pool right given the limitations of the actor. It's a little jarring even the few lines that she has. I read that at one point. I don't think they shot it but when they were doing the script with something like the original ending when they get to Wali's house that she shows up really and it turns out she is the daughter of our on John and convinces him to drop the charges. I don't know if that was just in the script stage and they realize yes that that would have been a little bit too contrived but I agree with with you. You know she's not great and there was part of me. That was like the sort of flirtation with excitement versus domesticity. <hes> seemed a little bit tired but another thing that I've forgotten was afterwards he and Alan get together and they're talking and they go into goes skinny dipping together and wake everybody up. I thought that was really sweet and well written a race when he's telling her to be able to hold the contradictory thing in his face while he's trying to reassure her yeah. Why would I be attracted to that incredibly incredibly hot famous model in Red Italian sports car he can do that. He's both genuine an lying at the same time here's a little of Christie's seen with him him at the pool which again she quit yourself well short first ever appearance in a movie not an actor the most famous model in the world at the time the trio you know go for three months. You only go around this crazy Mary around once I agree Yeah Credo. You don't have to have a bird. It's where they haven't favorite trio it. It feels great well. Are you going to go for <hes> for starters sure why not and the Academy Award shows too. I also didn't really think about it until watching the making yeah of that. They really took this trip. They had to drive twenty five hundred miles and have twelve trucks and hundred people moving across the country in order or to do the stuff they needed to do one of the I can't remember if it was. I think it was the first A._D.. Who is saying like that. Actually shooting on location is much more common now for a relatively low budget film Bat. It was a little bit. It was a little bit. What's weird is that it was exciting that it was just docile. Important man difficult it ended studio didn't expect it yeah well. He also says imagine no email. No cell phones not even any satellite phones. How do you co-ord- so how do you coordinate all this shit. There's a yeah okay. We're GONNA be there on Tuesday and it's like you better hope that everything is going when you show up well. That's a transition with that. Is You know who else didn't necessarily love all that and who we haven't talked about nearly as much as she deserves is imaging coma gene coca. We'll talk about a pro's pro. That's an actor someone who was fucking miserable miserable for the entire shoot who says funniest. She is in the movie. She didn't like travelling. She travelling in cars. She had right she and her agents. She was like I don't want to do this. I don't want be mean. He's like no no no. Yes she'd been in a car accident. Yeah horrible exactly afraid of driving and our agents are like no not just going to do it on the bag. John going to do it on the back. WHO's GonNa take this actual road trip which is of course what they do and she not only sticks it out. She is fantastic. She is amazing. Sir James Craig Hausky with awe because at first you know they meet her and she seems a little bit on the old side. is she going to be and then like as soon as they yell action action she bursts out and is amazing. It's her seen coming out of Randy Quaid's farmhouse and its introduction and she has a walker. She was not happy she did not like being. The vehicles played up a little bit. Maybe that frail thing then Hamill early hits are doing physical stuff with the Walker the great facial facial I mean what a great rubber-faced comic. She was and also in a sweet way. I think this is one of the things that I liked about films of this era and Herald Ramos talks about this for him. mm-hmm imaging coca meant a lot as a kid growing up watching your show of shows and Sid Caesar and appreciating the level of comedy on that show appreciating her and then being able to put her in a movie same thing with the Roy Wally actor you know sort of that that connection to old and the new Hollywood that we're kind of getting into you hear another comparison with Greece. I remember whereas when you have total users or whatever who sin Cesar ingred. Yes yes yes. He is the gym teacher yet coach Calhoun coach Calhoun. This is another just the dog seen tied to the Car James Keach brother of Stacey delivering an incredible cameo. The performance as the motorcycle cop officer was problem. Get Out of the car. I don't think I was speeding. was I leaving something. Shut your mouth so you know if I wouldn't have uniform. I'd Split Your skull the butt of this revolver faster than you could say police brutality well officer whatever it is I've done John. I'm sure I can explain explain this you son of a bitch. Oh my God you know what the penalty for animal cruelty is an estate no sir I don't well. It's probably pretty stiff. Oh you can't think I do this on purpose. Look I tied him to the rear bumper when I was packing. The car was very confusing. I must've forgot I very sorry I feel terrible. That little dog feels look. I told you I was sorry. It really wasn't accident yeah. I guess I can buy that Sir but it is a shame. I had a pooch like this. When I was a kid poor little guy probably kept up with you for a mile or so tough little Mutt. I was afraid you get pulled over Clark Art. You've been exceeding the speed limit for thousands of miles. There wasn't speeding cop stopped us because that forgot to he was speeding rusty wasn't mom John Ross. Listen to your mother. I was speeding driving like a maniac. We can all be grateful to this man for stopping you see kids occurs laser. I'm going back got to get the rest of the carcass off the road officer James Keach the line where his performance takes the turn from hard ass motorcycle cop to Weirdo. Weirdo is so fucking brilliant that is genius about the penalty in the state. It's probably pretty severe. That's the turn. How Genius is that this. This is the the flames seen for this movie in a movie that's full of full audible but in reading different reminiscences about differently they were talking about how much both of them laughing and they also seem to imply that a certain amount of it was improvised though I don't know how much that line which is so brilliant was that written or was that was that thinking of it on the spot. I it sounds like the way the process worked was you can imagine with actors of this caliber. So much of what Chevy is doing is unquantifiable you. It's hard to even discuss it because it's so visual you have to watch the scene to appreciate when James Keach is having dialogue Chevy Chevy is running through. He's so thrilled. This horrible dog is out of their lives. He's faking humility and sadness over what has happened. He's trying trying to get out of this police encounters so many things just go on his face but James Keach. It's dumb to talk seriously about how impressed I am in the acting of National Lampoon's vacation but I mean even just the way he leans into the window and flicks off his sunglasses is so expertly done and they're having so much fun underneath what's going on in the scene which doesn't break it's brilliant and like you said there's one hundred moments like that in the movie yeah another thing that I had forgotten about which ties it up from being just sort of a series of sketches into something thing a little bit more but he's breakdown eventually yes when they're just dropped when they've just dropped off spoiler for nine hundred vacation the a corpse of Aunt Edna on somebody's porch that is great this to me seemed so right for this. It's both a satire of the American consumerism and American suburban but also you have sympathy for this Dullard because it's no longer about fun. It's a quest or whatever he uses. Also we all do that given the chance we would also leave the old crone on the brother-in-laws. Porch and get the hell on with our vacation who have to play a a little of this great unedited rant because it's so good yeses where he loses his shit one disaster after another. Yes bitter real drag. Dad knew we can try tried. Some older terms world's overrated anyway. What do you think I think you're you're all fucked in the head. Return hours from the fucking fun park and you Wanna bail out what I'll tell you something. This is no longer a vacation. It's a quest it's a question fun. I'm GonNa have fun and you're GonNa have fun. We're GONNA have so much fucking fun when he plastic surgery to remove our guard dams files. He'll be whistling simply zipper out of your assholes. I gotta be crazy. I'm going to go see a moves praise Marty. I WANNA ask if you've ever organized travel for your family as I do the look on his face as they are all the complaints starting at high on the look on his face is so so absolutely perfect have all been there. We have all logged hundreds of hours making sure plane reservations hotel rooms itineraries. We're going to go here now. We're GONNA do here. You gotta make some choices choices is nobody wants to be involved in the unfunny planning part. Everyone wants to have an opinion once. It's all on the road and go into shit that is what is so genius that and I don't think there's really any profanity in the film up until that point and Beverly Jones lows reaction shot is so perfect as he starts losing yeah. I don't think we've talked enough about her. They said it was hard to cast because they needed someone who was kind of hot and sexy. They didn't just want like a June allyson suburban and mom policy student relatives. I'm sure she's hot and sexy underneath all that Bingaman skirting one for everyone and needed to be smarter than Clark and play that way with Chevy which is also plays it in a way of there's the scene where they're overlooking. The Grand Canyon says I'm like this is fun isn't it and she nods and smiles within says no and so. It's not just to be smarter but there's also got to be a sense of like a partnership that has its own rules whatever they are yeah. She stands up for him with Aunt Edna at Randy quits. Yes and you know it's funny because I think this idea of the mom with the the bumbling dad by now is such a is this where that became the Sitcom Com troll now. I think going on in entertainment for hundreds of years so okay so this is just sort of like a particularly this expression of it. I think what we're talking around. Is that in order to make really great comedy. When you pay attention to all this other stuff you can imagine it's probably silly at probably a lot of fun but basically silly to sit around and talk about the Vera similitude militated of seen in the car or all these what their relationship is and how they're with each other but in doing that you get some place that's very specific specificity specificity that's so effortless seeming allows the P._o._v. of the writing and the performances to purchase something with comedy. That's the stuff I guess. Most people people forget to pay attention to or don't think to pay attention to everything because it's comedy. They don't have they don't have exactly when you in a drama. Let's let's like crawl up each other's ass and talk talk about what's going on in your motivation my motivation and all this stuff because we're having this dramatic ten seen crawling in this movie to also the Vista. The scenes are truly breathtaking. I read somewhere he was like influenced by some it wasn't clown of Scotty but it was like whatever else was out at that time that we all went and saw in like eighty two eighty three it was like another one of those brilliant abundance of an fantastic imagery nature John Jacques unawed on film now interested zone shop our new director of in the name of the rose. Yes wes for fire he he had just seen. Have you seen quest for fire another caveman your story time when tribesmen search for Herald Ramos was influenced with quest for fire when he did year one wow. What's your audience for a year one joke. Do you think Herald is the obvious darryl laughing somewhere I hope so but I it'd be more of an at than a wealth quest for fire nineteen. eighty-one had these panoramic scenery shots and Herald Ramos was like we need some of that. We're going to be the Grand Canyon. I'm GonNa have vistas and also died forgotten the intro of the movie the title sequence with all of the things that you were satirizing in your open that he had found America's foremost most collector of road trip ephemera autographs and consulted with that guy who made a selection of what he that's great. We're the best most iconic things things along the route and that's what we're seeing in the opening credit sequence. We talk with Flash Gordon last week. How great that opening sequence was using the comic strips and stuff anyone else that we need to discuss <hes> <hes> John Candy doing take on his iconic character from S._e._T._v.. Things that I thought were particular. Interesting was one we talked about how that ending was kind of cobbled together it quickly and that included the fact that they had to pay John Candy million dollars. No is that true. That's what I I'm DB. He was paid one million dollars for his his brief appearance at the end of that and there was a wally world waterpark in London Ontario Canada which opened several years after the movie was released. John Candy was invited fighted to the opening of the park but the park owners couldn't afford his appearance fee. Wow I didn't read that a million dollars that that's like Brando. Ask seems to big for the title I that can't be true. I might have been turned down or he died. At forty three. That's so young he would have done some amazing things to hear. People talk about him in the making of documentary and then the backstage just how ironically light on his feet he was now. Oh good of an actor he was that that made the comedy that much better you seem planes trains and automobiles lately no tour de force impressive. We consider doing that. I think that'd be a good one is the sad side and depth but I think that the real emotion at the end of planes trains and automobiles as such a good use of John Candy and such an impressive choice to allow that to go there. You know it goes there that is but you can do that just by cutting John Candy. That's what's amazing about him as an actor. That's why think comedic actors others can contain so much more depth sometimes because to be a comedian you have to be in the world in order to observe it for comedy people people you know they talk about playing the truth and seen that line. Do you know what the laws for animal cruelty are this. No I don't well. It's probably pretty stiff. That is not not just clever line but it comes from the real thing of not. Every officer is going to know every and yet. You've heard that rhetorical questions so often that playing at truthfully. Did you find this great awkwardness of not knowing but still wanting to make the point. Do you want to mention the theme song which I spent a lot of time yesterday freaking out about this Lindsey Z. Buckingham Oh my God queen what we would Mac Chris you know that Queen Buckingham Palace No oh queen like Mack like hey Mac scenic we have you anyway holiday road two minutes and eleven seconds of bizarre our studio Frankenstein musical genius that contains I believe only twenty six words including chorus. I'm going to play a little snippet a bit weight yeah that's it and all of the backing vocals Lindsey Buckingham Damn all of the instruments are all him and it's not a great song in a certain sense but it's catchy as hell is an earworm of the highest magnitude you and listening to it outside the context of the movie it's kind of weird but my God like can't think of the movies without that and it's a song for a movie like it exists in a cinematic place that that's where it belongs and Lindsey Buckingham is like really never talked much about it. He probably just dash it off. Yeah Okay Well Holiday Retro Movie Yep sure so so he wrote three line is practically jingle. I didn't read any alternative casting very little and as often goes some of these things might have been a fleeting thought one in Kim Cottrell was what I read was the original choice for Ellen. She wouldn't have been old enough then what she I think she would have banner late twenty s which is I think also whatever Liangelo Angela was. Did you see <hes> just talking about production the casting how weird is Mark Canton in that documentary you guys can Google Google like the making of National Lampoon vacation. You'll know him when when you see them so then of course I go down the Mark Canton thing because I remember kind of in the eighties nineties believe it or not kids. There was a time when movie studio executives were worthy of celebrity and note and like you've read spy magazine and there would be take downs of them blowing my mind Mark Canton was one such guy who was famously deposed after a career riddled old with some kind of controversial and quirky behavior as it's your question so there's a few quick anecdotes here that Peter Bart Art shared his former editor of variety one story goes a guy in the business was summoned to Marquette Office with the director who is in the middle of shooting a picture for Mark Canton. Every minute is is literally costing tens. If not hundred eighties tens of not hundreds of thousands of dollars marquette is like he needs to leave the set and come to my office now okay. He gets there only to be. He kept waiting in our in the reception room so the director is sitting there. He's computing in his head. How much this hour is costing and Marquette peeks his head up and just says matter of factly? I'm talking to real estate about my house. Then slams the door shut and goes back into his office and another one is he was meeting with a young young up and coming director when he was at Warner brothers and Canton was eating an apple in the meeting and he did this thing where he would ask a question of the filmmaker then take an enormous bite of the apple and the crunching sound of chewing would drown out the directors answer and this happened true to three times to people's consternation in the room and then finally he concluded the meeting by telling the director. You're really GONNA have to develop a much louder voice. If you want to succeed as a director I can't hear one word you're saying with apple juice dripping down. He had just read the art of the deal. I guess also learned I'm sorry Kristie all our our play a couple of possibilities play cousin Eddy <hes> Robin Williams Williams but get out of town really he would've been would've been too much of what was it like. Look at everything with Robin Williams now and I'm going. I would've been too much. It's amazing you made his any movies. I've never really calibrated Robin Williams and Kenneth Mars who's that he's a character actor. I thought Randy Quaid. He's so perfect for this. There were also people considered for Clark. A really I saw three name Richard Belcher Robert Klein and Bill Murray. I mean bells irs. Show bells are like you know it's I forgot he was in the National Lampoon stuff and I guess I can see Robert Klein being up and coming comedian. I guess he's like contingencies. It was the third one Bill Murray. Perhaps you've heard of him haven't heard Bill Murray who you'd mentioned the feud which actually sounded very Saturday somewhat reconciled just on the verge of Heraldry Mrs Death Yes but he was unable to speak so bill Murray kind of a power move to go in for Conciliation Bill O. AW I mean seriously like that was written and maybe it's uncharitably written against Bill Murray but it's kind of like you know they ran into each other plenty of times and what was it Henry through Bill Murray up against a wall or Bill Murray through Herald Ramos up against the wall all that I heard there was no explanation except that Herald Ramos would say I think it had to do with stuff. Bill was going through in his life at Yes i read that there was some moment where he threw bill up against a wall and said like listen motherfucker or something and then that was like a twenty year feud and then Yes on Herald Ramos's deathbed unable to speak Bill Murray shows up with a police escort for comedic effect and and sounded like he came in and there was some talking but for once the little but then you held talking also about his own potential problems with Chevy and Chevy through a suitcase yes toward in the garage I almost I'm Bill Murray because the way Harold Ramos told that story yeah made it seem like come on man like be a little like I understand it can be sort of a jerk like this sounded like a sort of a reasonable but I wasn't there was reasonable for seventieth or the suitcase I absolutely that should win a director signs onto a project. They should be a punching bag. Well you're talking about filming in the garage and the great visual scene where the car backs out for the very first moment one of the vacation and all the carefully assembled luggage on the roof rack gets ripped off and falls on the floor and it was one hundred twenty degrees in the garage and they couldn't get it right and he's I would would love to interview I wish I I wish someone interviewed Chevy Chase and really Kinda like unpacked to degree that you could. I wonder what percent the prickliness Colinas is a part of what makes him and I'm sure that's part of what is going on but there's a part of me that just excuse it in a sense that even even in interviews he seems kind of uncomfortable in endearing way he both seems comfortable in his skin and also profoundly uncomfortable in a way that I find really compelling. That's disarming coming in a good way to read some of these things he might sound like a jerk but once you see somebody and you can see like oh you're obviously uncomfortable. You're obviously trying to work against your worst instincts and trying to be a better person than yours impulses. Are this thing they were saying. It was toward the end of the shoot. It was in a hot like hundred degree day multiple takes. He had to throw the suitcase somewhere even how didn't imply that he was throwing it at him to hit him right. He was looking for somewhere to throw it. He's he's like. I can't throw it at the camera. I can't throw it at the cinematographer. I can't go to that light. Stand Oh herald yeah so and I think when somebody when you're already primed to dislike someone because maybe he'd been a dick all all throughout the thing that you get pissed at them and take more IRA. We've talked about this before and I think this is apropos with Chevy when you get really into looking at movies and thinking about them you realize they're far more complicated and the reasons that they work often are so subtle you could talk about them forever and ever and ever even though the experience of watching one that really works can feel seamless and easy. I think with comedy it's the same thing what Chevy Chase he was always singular. He was always different. I mean he was the first star on Saturday night live right and I think that's a lonely and specific place to to be no one else can be there with him. Really you have colleagues and you can have comparable performers but his thing has always been very specific to him. Yeah and I wonder if part of that means you've got to defend some things and in defending it. You'RE GONNA rub some people the wrong way. Maybe he also was in steely. Dan Lewis the leather canary then but he played drums with Walter Becker and Donald Fagin prior to them becoming steely Dan wow yeah and the steely Dan. That's a dildo right that is a stranger yes probably they always wanted to call it and it was only when he left finally that stick in the mud is gone we can go with our Dildo name. Do you know is a good trivia question for you Chris. Do you know which science fiction action novel the term steely Dan was taken from <hes> brave new world naked lunch bro really as boroughs nuts. It's it's a reference to Inigo lunch daily. Dan three from Yokohama is a steam powered dildo which is as this person says. It's not really something that comes to mind when listening in two years full cast and crew is brought to you by out of Jack's mind a new comedy short video series from Jackpot Nick Co writer and Director Rector of the Sony Pictures Feature Film Space Station Seventy six and current recurring guest on Grayson Frankie and Sea nation out of Jack's mind likened likened follow at chocolate comedy on facebook or chocolate dot com chocolate original comedy delivered daily. I don't really have any headlines for you today. I have a couple that are actually appropriate for the film did you from the Daily Mail. There was shocking video of a raft going over falls with I think Oh yes people and it was a pretty big waterfall phone pretty scary. Looking shocking video captured the moment that a group of rafters plunged over thirty foot waterfall after apparently ignoring warning signs turnaround rather like car and the gang and the trumpster the rafters at Ohio State Park in Pennsylvania had rented raft and took an unguided <hes> Whitewater Whitewater boating trip on the Middle Yellow River while navigating the river. The group took a wrong turn that set them on a dangerous course they passed three warning signs urging voters to turn back with one signed stating waterfall ahead. Everybody was fine but I've taken unguided and don't ignore the signs although you might make the opposite mistake like these drivers in Colorado on June twenty seventh when Google Map told them to take a dirt road road and hundreds of drivers that was great a crash on the road leading to Denver international airport prompted the APP Google maps to take drivers on a detour her but it was too good to be true. The alternate route took drivers down a dirt road that rain had turned into a muddy mess and cars started sliding around some vehicles couldn't make it through the mud and about one hundred others became trapped behind them. Connie Mancini's was underway to pick her husband at the airport. When she encountered the recommendable of art? I thought maybe there's a detoured and pulled it up on Google maps and gave me a detour that was half the time she said it was forty three minutes initially and they said it was going to be twenty three instead so it took the exit and drove where they told hold me. There were a bunch of other cars going down the dirt road to so I said I guess it's okay. It was not okay so basically we're just enslaved to our devices and we'll do whatever they say i. I'm idea to look up every now and again. I do whatever waves tells me I don't care. There's a reason I don't need to know faith. Well Google said in a statement we take many factors into account when determining driving routes while we always worked to provide the best directions issues can arise due to unforeseen circumstances such as weather we encourage all drivers to follow local laws. Stay attentive and use their best judgment while driving. We're not liable you lemmings. Some of US should pick kick your asses up from your story for you. Yes we made fun of you on facebook about this on our full cast and crew facebook page yes the how millennial are you a food and drink thing yet slows your score again. You gotTa Bullshit. What both you're lying? You didn't get a five and in fact there's actually every there is a very I was thinking of going on lunch just so I could say like she could six okay I tried this is a question about bizarre foods that millennials consume and if you have bizarre foods like Seltzer Water Eaton one through five of them you're cancelled. If you have six to ten your basic if you have eleven to fifteen yes queen almost millennial and sixteen plus millennial goals a F- now Chris you claim that you only score two five yeah okay. I think we all know what Avocado Toast I is. We know what is what oat milk and Rosa and bone broth we know the impossible burger almond butter some of these I don't know do you know what black ice cream is no. Do you know what cloud eggs are. I think cloud egg is like a like a liquid dessert from Japan. I think I saw an article about no like no no no their eggs actual eggs fund and trendy eggs or the new craze on instagram see they're also known as fried eggs millennials. I wonder what the thing that Fried Egg. I posted a thing on my personal facebook page where I saw an ad on facebook where it was like tired of sweat dripping in your face vase. Would it be incredible if some garment existed that could tie your hair back and prevent its BANDANNA. You guys didn't invent this. What's Mermaid Toast? That sounds not appetizing. I'm still looking at black ice cream this mermaid toast so rainbow toast with sprinkled on it. I guess that's the thing they I'm just surprised Chris. You strike me as a bulletproof coffee type guy. What is bulletproof coffee? That's the coffee with the butter in it. I once had tea with butter because I went to the same thing I went to a Tibetan restaurant <hes> well yes hot butter tea and it was gross. I guess if I was planning on climbing a mountain before or after maybe it would've overnight oats. It's going to be like black. Ice Cream is activated charcoal in the ice cream now really disgust. I do watch that uses charcoal and activated traded charcoal. Do you sing in the shower while you're putting yourself in your whole body while only medal though activated charcoal is thought to be healthy for its cleansing and teeth white. Oh that's right and I've also so used to brush your teeth not like a piece of charcoal buy toothpaste with charcoal in it. Okay sorry just activated. Charcoal is thought to be healthy for its cleansing and teeth eighth widening benefits. No studies have found this to be true love it. That sounds to me all right Chris. Let's wrap up by moving to latch key TV so I'm going to say that I'm home from school at Three P._M.. And funny enough enough on this day in nineteen eighty five Chris. There's a show with my name. No kidding version of my name JAS J. A. Y.. C. That's the way that I'm I do and I've never seen it jas and the wheeled warriors a cartoon on channel. Do you remember when used to channel thirty eight. Be On your Gerald Cable Able bombing up thirty day here. It is Jason Warriors Toys. Oh Jason is crew drive power for vehicles to fight against the mastermind evil plant based creatures ridding us of those evil plants anime. A young man leads a small band and search for his father fighting the forces of saw boss using various vehicles so that's where I'm going to watch because does even though I wasn't yet known as Jason It's better than watching harness racing from Oxen Hill Maryland then at four I think I mentioned this before but I'm going littlest Hobo because I'm kind of interested blackmailers force a mute girl and her father to conduct fake seances then at four thirty. I'M GONNA want to Dukes of hazzard because it was a fascinating story line a where the boys try to thwart boss Hogg's implementation of unfair abortion laws good for then storyline for Dukes of Hazzard. I assume <music> boss Hogg was trying to he was trying to impel yeah. He was trying to implement just unjust abortion law that says the Duke Boys Love Them and leave them obviously eh itself Interests Not Saints Your own self interest absolutely look at history so remember how the little boy was doing. The fake seances must have been a thing in eighty five because because episode of Benson. The governor claims he saw Benson beamed aboard a U._F._O.. For a short time during their golf game going on in the time of great people just like now you know you're now the millennials they're very into astrology then at eight P._M.. I'm fascinated by the concept that exists in the eighties of two part made for T._v.. Movies featuring storylines that we could easily have handled in one part such as in the conclusion of North Beach in Rod McGregor William Shatner and his charges Hosta Costa Rodeo at his reformatory ranch ever Liangelo was in a two part movie called Double Take which had fascinating synopsis that you might enjoy Ken to corpses scissor found in different locations with their heads severed and exchanged Frank Janik is mailed on to head the team of detectives investigating meanwhile Janik China's trying to find out why an old friend colleague committed suicide which is apparently a different death which eventually leads to romantic situation with photographer Carolina

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Ep 134 - Anders Holm Joins

Going Deep with Chad and JT

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Ep 134 - Anders Holm Joins

"Hey, guys real. Quick up top. We have a platform. We want to use it for good, and we just WANNA firmly. Say That we stand with black lives matter we stand with George Floyd and all the other African Americans who have been abused or lost their lives at the hands of police brutality, and we're so proud of all the protesters out there who are fighting for. Justice Sidoti We're proud of you. Guys are out there using your voices for good. Good and the changes happening, so let's keep it rolling I totally agree with Chad. I've seen the protests have been so inspired would have seen. It's our job to be pathetic and I think that's what's going to get us to a better place and also donate, so we're going to put up some links to places where you guys can donate money to try and help and push this 'cause forward, so we can all be part of the positive change that's coming. Absolutely. Right. Now under home. Cool. Let me know when I got the green light. To Go. All right got the green light. What's up, guys? This is Chad. Kroeger combination with the going deeper chant jt podcast guys before it began owner mighty once again that we are brought to you by manscaping landscape. Thank you so much for keeping our trends cubes for looking after our hogs for making sure that our dogs are looking fresh and clean, because when you roll up to neighborhood, and you see a freshly cut long, what do you think? That guy changes. PUP-. So that's what we want for you guys. Use Code go deep twenty dot com. Go Twenty, and we got. Our guests are I I got my. On Thomas. Boom Clap. Stoker's what Chad. Guess unders home from a workaholics legend. What is happening? It's. OUTTA here first question. Do you manscaping? Yeah I let it ride. And then I I like have to deal with it united name I'll I'm not a regular trimmer I is kind of fun and just let it rip and see how like why your pubic area can get Not how full like what's the like? Is it like an American football field or Canadian football field? Canadian is wider correct. Yeah, for sure that I'm a more of an American. Is Narrow Patch that's what's up. Yeah, and then like after a while ago. You know what man hey. Let's just do this. We'll do the six weeks to months, yeah! I got a designated trimmer. So, that's on idols. I'm real link legit about it. Electorate Ethel. It sorta like your. Grow sear, potential than prom comes up and you gotta get clean cut. You, know just see what live in that match life and then. Get off futuristic with found their. Eleven rude, good verbiage Dude Nice. Where'd you grow up? Evanston Illinois, outside Chicago. Is there good lingo there. Yeah yeah, it's it's. Yeah, for sure we good shit, the one that sparks. Right off, the top of my head is when we were in high school. There was a guy running for office named Dick Durbin. So, like if you gotta blow, job was called getting her bd. which is like hyper specific to like the Chicago land area. I'm not sure really anybody else did that. You, know and then just come. The run of the mill shit two, but that was one that was. Very specifically hours and then the shop If you saw that on workaholics with like. If you do something stupid, chop on the back of your next. That was something we did. At our high school middle school, and then there was a whole fucking leg. Rules the like the teenage rules to it. You know it's like yeah shop. Because you come back, you can ten for contact. To a chop stuff in a month, which is like a whole other thing? but yes crazy. How kids just will come up with these worlds? We? We did conning where you would say something stupid bathing, somebody else to correct you. And then when they corrected you, you went car on you and you would act like you're taking a picture of them to commemorate. Their stupidity wrote right, and then my buddy Ross came up with it and then the football coaches. Pretended that they made it up and talk to the newspaper about it in the newspaper reported on the coaches that it was their job, but they coaches probably knowingly stole that from a fucking bunch of sixteen year old geniuses, right? That's brutal. By the way the the coaches were probably like twenty five. Treasury to. See where they're coming from your like all right. They dislike young dude. Yeah, they were my boys. That's true. Yeah, I didn't even play football, so that was all just on the peripheral watching. Actually I didn't even go to that school anymore so. This is a weird story. That's no longer your yeah, real personal stake in it. I should clarify. We said. Like in the lunchroom, you're getting up. Obviously, someone could just snake your seat right so you would have to say safe save. And then it was yours and if you got up and didn't. Say Save. Someone get called dirties. And then when you came back like starring medical dirties like are fun, the the rule of law. But I do still say dirty sometimes some thirty nine years old. You Look Great. Thank you. GotTa keep the Lingo to that keeps you young. Keeps you young until it immediately makes you super old right. Like, my dad, who we went to my same high school at the same time. Yeah, so it was like a science experiment gone wrong. We're turning into. Movie is underneath this blanket. I can't tell you but like. He adopted doke immediately hilarious, and he was probably you know. Late fifties, but that the car I saw the other day was just. Unlike now seventy seven and he still drops though. Still, says the bomb. and it fucking works. You know I'm not saying the bomb anymore will. My Dad's says it. He's like the Sandwich was. Yes. Should my dad. My Dad hangs out. The younger people and I heard him say and I went to visit her say butthurt the other day. Wow, yeah, he was. They'll get all butthurt about now is like. How old are you do? Yeah, yeah, it is. We do like a like a wet yet. AD In there yeah. But he came, and just they're trying to do the thing. That's a that's a that's A. that's a real deal. If he's home onto that I'm stoked for him yet cracked me up. You try to educate your kids on the link, or are you trying to make sure that they have the right? Is, I speak accordingly you know, and then it is kind of funny. To, see my kid be like. Dad, like check out like Lego catalogue you see this. Can I get this? Christmas, my gaze like. It's so sick and I'm like. Yeah and he says dope. He says sick. I off the hook and off the record scale a lot and he hasn't really. Isn't sales director scale. It doesn't say off to channel the hook like. Definitely dropped sick. Oh, he says. Smoked when like you beat somebody in a race yet and. I say blazed a lot for the same thing. And he said it the other day and I was just like this where. He blazed and DABUMA. Yes. Do you let them watch rated R movies. No not yet I mean when I was six. I was like the youngest of three kids. A kind of were like well. The oldest kid, my brother, only he got total recall first birthday. So like that's what the kids are all going watch you know like. I think I'd seen like animal house in like Robocop. Predator. Around seven years old probably movies. Amazing movies formative Belykh. Super Violence. Copying saying. A satire I. Get that now, but as a kid I'm just like. Yeah like people are Super. Evil, the blow your hands and your Dixon whatever? Mike is Watch movies. Yeah trick with Palmer Hoven. Movies like because when you watch starship troopers when you're twelve, you're just like dude. Loan up bug aliens like really hot ladies, but then you get older like what was this about fascism, right? Yeah he's, he's the man I on it. I just said total recall, too, but yeah, he's got some neat. Emit, parents. My mom should make Fargo when I was like seven. and. House like they talk funny. That's Hilarious I saw the chipper part now. What the fuck is going on. Why are you doing? So weirdly slow movie, too. So I can't imagine it was like. You're just. Should I be seeing this, yeah, I was just trying to kick it on her bed and she's like GonNa Watch Sopranos in Fargo and like all right. I used to watch bee's master a ton with my mom. longhaired and hot dude, yes, lead. He was very hot Marc Singer. I remember him, yeah. And I was just like this is amazing. The Duke controls animals and. What is her name like Tanya I think. Maybe it was tiny in the motor, but the actress was also. A smoke show. That's awesome. Yeah, I think. My mom was really into erotic movies with Fen. Golly Lee is where the guy was like super seductive. Had A big influence on me. In terms of what it took to like I didn't think he'd be nice, because those were not the kind of male leads. My mom was attracted to. She was attracted to like. Like she always Kevin Spacey was hot. which so we now? Yeah, yeah, that's a complex one. She likes she like dude. See would like. Kiss hard yet or she liked. My mom thinks James Spader in that the blackout show or whatever it's called the blacklist. She thinks he's hot. She thinks he's hot in that because he's very smart, he controls things. Also riding off of being a heartthrob from the eighties, you know what I mean, so. Yeah, he's still on that way. Yeah yeah, that's true. I mean when in the eighties. He was real, good looking uranium pink. Sick movie if you've ever seen Lock is called Back Company. I think it's called back. But, it's basically like he plays this kind of Dorky guy who gets a house in earn apartment, Venison, got a ton of money, but he can't meet girls and then super hot dude. This is great for podcasts. About. Rob Lowe nine bad acid like helps them out of a situation in a bar, and then befriends him and then kind of like. Down this path of like getting girls, and like being a man, and then when it gets too crazy. and. He's got Kinda like cut him off is a friend. Rob Lowe polls one string in his life. Sol's apart type. Thing Oh nice. It's rap. It's a good good movie. The eighty s were the best with those kind of movies. Like trusting the wrong person, and then they kind of just like. Inordinately suck up your life. Yeah, that's a good genre like single white. Body, you'll received that all do the Lawrence Cazin movie. Yeah, everyone's sweating their asses off and on. Your mom would have that one on for sure Yeah Mickey Rourke in. That movie was definitely hers. Wail. Is Mickey. It's not maybe work. It's William hurt. Yet Mickey works as a arsonist buddy. Is he whole yet a small part in it and doesn't look. Like goes yeah. Yeah, he doesn't Classic Mickey Mark Like Mumble, but it's very compelling. Liberty and watching that recently when William hurt, he's like he shows her house and she's like not. It's not going to happen, but he said, but the tension is, and he just throws it. Share through the fucking window in his lawyer at worst fucking. This does not fly. Is Happening Yeah but you know also. It's going down. You ever see that. Ray liotta movie with Kurt Russell where it's like. He's like railroad as a bad cop Kurt Russell. Has a home invasion in his him and his wife get scared Ray Liotta gets obsessed with his wife like things. Russell's too much of a place for. What is it called? I forget I duNno, but you're saying Ray Liotta. You're sending Kurt Russell vs all the right things. Yeah those are my kind of movies. They really fucked on my head, but I really enjoyed them. Yeah Yeah! Would were those the James. Bater movie is bad influenced by the way. Thank. Aaron coming like God. Yeah right up with the fire. Who are your big influences? Who Your favorite directors growing up? You know it's funny like really young. You know like. John Landis Movies Herald Raymond Movies Mall the ones that didn't seem like they had like such a stamp on them, but then you go back and watch him down your life. That's such peregrine's movies. Such gentlemen. This movie Frank Oz movies. I fucking love Franken Movies House sitter. Because, obviously house would Goldie Hawn Steve Martin. It's just like. Steve Martin Meets Goldie Hawn. Users address these I built this house in like my relationships falling apart now she doesn't WanNa move in with me and then Goldie Hawn squats in the House and starts meeting people small towns, saying that she's like his new. Wife and then St Martin shows up and his parents are like. We just met your wife like what's going on, but then he s like play along with it, it's. A lot of good gun J. Rex I gotTA check all the. Checkout House sitter. It's just like a fun light. And like it really rides on. How Amazing Goldie Hawn as as a human like. She's just super watchable. Death becomes her. Yeah, that movies fucking sick. That is amazing. That's a the. Movie Did all the back to the futures, alkyl earth is eighty s kind of your preferred decade. Will this movies nine indies? I mean like us born in eighty, one and I. Did all my movie damage super her Leone and then like there was all sorts of dog shit in the nineties, but like. I feel like the eighties took those swings, and in the ninety s was like this is the new and improved version of. Whatever movie you know! But yeah, other implemented. All the fucking like bill, Murray Shit just. A dove in on that. I'm GonNa get you. Sucker was like a mind blower. That's like Keenen Ivory Wayans first movie like his brothers, a sister and then like. It's A. Spoof on blaxploitation movies. Yeah, it is a joke. Every second in like the airplane style of. Naked Gun tight type jokes. And it's. It just blows your mind. When you're watching your like house a movie this Sunday and worked for me is like an action movie. When I was a kid to like when I saw it as a kid, I was just like. Cool movie! Yeah, 'cause the San. A lot of the comedy went over my head Nice. Yeah. Actually hits the care. One Song comes like you like all right Jack as a student did seem certain cool. Yeah, did you? Were you watching movies in as a kid? Where you always interested in entertainment like you're like this is what I wanna do or did that come sorta later on? I mean in addition to just wanting a ton of TV. Unlike kind of being raised by TV unlike SNL like super young, it was like. Phil, Hartmann and Mike Myers and then like the David Spade Chris Farley era came after that you know what I mean like I feel like that era was like the most juvenile. That's ever happened in the history of now so like it just connects to twelve year olds watching it. And, so I dug SNL is like how do people do this? Like what is that job? and then my oldest brother was into theater, and he did slide comedy show at our high school. That was basically it was written by the kids directed by. The kids act by the kids. And it was like a comedy. Show you know and. I went and saw that and I was like Holy Shit. These dudes are funnier snl like these idea again. Super Young, not everything like. Connected for me like I didn't know, songs were covers of the Beatles. Where just change the words 'cause. Really play, music. Growing up but. I was just like this is the ship and then when I got. To High School, or like eighth grade that summer you had like auditioned for the fall and start rehearsing like before school even started If you're were a freshman, obviously, so I auditioned for that and I was like. My other brother played soccer, but oldest brother did the the comedy show. Like well, if I get in the comedy show, I'll do that if I don't play soccer. I got into comedy show and did that so like that was my first taste of. Entertaining people you know besides like bullshit with your friends and like. me and my home. Homey had like a talk boy and we would do like. Fake Phil Donahue shows or like. What was his name? Like Jenny Jones we would do like fake Jimmy Johns. Geraldo Rivera. Young Geraldo at all. Those like crazy. Talk shows it would just have like insane gas song. And then I did that, but then I, I quit my senior year to focus on. Swimming's like a get into a guy in college. And then I never really did it again until I decided to start writing stuff in college. Right, you swim. D One. I was yeah. Oh. Yeah, that movie knowledge damn, Bro. Look Ma'am when you're not in the boy. Just watching movies and we're not watching. Movies were just in the pool. Look in the bottle of wine. Did I was a swimmer. Might, what was your event? I did event cyle. Sprint Freestyle Butterfly hundred. Yeah. I can see that. You seem like you have nice labs for the fly the mattress still there Dan. I could tell. It's it's hard to get back in the pool. Though man it's, it's tough. I try sometimes yeah. Yeah college athletes hard on themselves like I've friends used to play volleyball? We go down to the beach and they hate themselves for not being able to spike is hard, and they're like I don't even WanNa play and I'm like they have a high standard for themselves I think once dip below it. It's it's too hard to play casually. It's tough. My Dad was a college athlete He played football, but like. And he was like the shit at his, he played D. Three, but he was like isn't like the hall of fame for His d three right for football and golf and he would always take us out. There would be like fuck plaque. Check it out. I'm like all right cool Dude D. Three. I had never seen him. Run in his life and I think it's because of that whole thing works i. can't really like do like I used to do it. I'm just not going to. But. I try and maintain. Some ship started running I was like cross fit for a little bit, but it turned into this weird. A monster trout on traps got big. Yes, now I got. Mad Props. I can't lift too heavy because I get to Swale I remember. Did my brothers are like? They're like you need to do Olympic lifts daily Mike Dude. I, I gotta be on camera like I can't be fucking nugget. And by the way like. I didn't get like cut up. I just got like Swale. Did? Get blocking. Yeah, looked dog, unless like throws rocks had Chad. You asked me you're like my too bulky knows a year. Shot tell you, but I had to I had to let and. Sprints, yeah yeah you know. What I found is rowing. Oh. Yeah, rowing's my shit. I got a new role at the house now like. It works man. I'm all about Bachelorette. Yeah! I got an assault by. Could you similar? For the kids. On the balcony. In people were walking by, and they're just watching me. Yeah! Ruutel I try and get back into the pool to go to the Rose Bowl, has a nice aquatic center and I go there. L. Coca Cola and fuck around with the masters team. It's all these old dogs or like kids fresh out of college who like have their light school tattooed on their back instead, or you'll catch somebody like Olympic rings on their arm in your life. Here we go me up to, but we doing yeah. I! Love I love the sport I. Know People like having gone in the water since which seems tragic to me. Yeah I love. The the discipline I wasn't very good. I'm too short a thing. like you know. I've short legs, but AM coach. I think he thought I was lazy, so it made me do the five hundred free. I think just punish me. He didn't likely coach Donnelly. You're listening. You can suck it. Sorry, Oh, through squad, Living WanNa do this. What's up? What's your squad good? Honestly Nah, I hung out the hawk. Where's this prep school. In Connecticut uh-huh! California so I was just. What's was there? was there like a specific good school out there for swimming? Greenwich High! That's a prep school, but they were like we would play them in water polo and they would always just dominate us. And it was sort of like you'd go into the game. You like I know. I'm going to get. Tossed here, but right. This is just to learn. Right yeah, I played water polo for a season in high school. And I just couldn't keep my cool. I don't I don't know how to like I. Don't know how people play contact sports than just don't lose it. As will be grabbing on me and I would just be like. I'm drunk. I'm holding the foul and I'm like. What are we doing here? Later in life I go. Oh, contact. Sports are about getting away with as much as you can and not getting caught. That's the thing and I didn't understand. and. There's honor and being able to measure the abuse properly. You know there's guys who hit hard, but they're not sadist, and you have deep admiration for those people. Yeah I would do. Grab the SPEEDO. Poland back! You ever do that move. Yeah, I mean that's that's what it is. That's the move I remember I. Did that I did that to kid? PULL A bag. It's like it's like Oh. And I scored like my only goal that season. All I tried to do is score with a backhand. Oh, yeah, that's a nice move. Y-. You could do this all day, but if you're the guy who's just bobbing it, and then you go behind your back, yeah! It was fucking sick. I. Was I was no good. I always enjoyed them workaholics. When you do the the Latte like snap Oh. Yeah! I'm trying to teach my kids that they don't have enough meat on the bones, but. Same swimming I mean it's a real thing. I remember from being a young buck on the deck and seeing older ditz, doing it and just being like. Zach the coolest. Like just based on like the fluidity of slapping his arm, his body and I was like. The students G.. Yeah, what does he him? Explain it. It's like. Obviously sure you're on the SPEEDO and shit, but you. You slap your arms. Your bicep is loose and your latte. At, it claps right before raises dislike super casually like clock and you're dislike. All, right? This is probably pretty fast that sick. Yeah I do love the. IDIOSYNCRASIES of specifics sports. Things like the fact that swimmers can do that or like the taping job on boxers, or like the specific like basketball players, fingers are all just gnarled, because been dislocated so many times from catchy passes Weird I love that Shit yeah a couple of my football when a guy could throw the ball against the ground, it bounced back up into his hand like the guy who had good ball. Skills can do that. You and then I. Random sport but I try to get into horse riding for a while, and a lot of those dudes are missing fingers 'cause when they catch the CAF. Like when they're when they're roping the catch the cast, and then they go to tie the rope around the bullhorn saddle, their fingers get stuck in there, and then when the calf yanks on it, it Jackson fingers off. When you meet a bunch of those guys, you shake their hands and they're all missing like there. Two principal digits. which kind of slows you know or no? They all you know, he's for real. Yeah, yeah, okay dudes when their teeth back in the day any like. They just didn't fucker by hockey's. You just don't have to. Yeah, yeah, you see them. They used to play with helmets and they just be the around. League used to not have helmets. Is Crazy yeah like an insane yet. The difference in size of the goalie to he's still only take up like twenty percent of the space now they're like. There's only like six inches of blank open window to scoring yet. What is do I love? That's a good sport though I. Never. Yeah, what's that? I've never gotten into hockey. I. Do respect it a lot, but it just. It's so much you on. You GotTa go to a kings game. I've been to a couple, but yeah. I gotta go to more I. It's the Shit on TV. It's a little hard, even though that announcers out of his mind you. Calling the game like crazy. It's still kinda hard to be like. Tell faster than you know. Doing twenty. When did you move to la? End of Oh three. Was that right after college? Yeah, after summer school I had to take like two classes to graduate or like they let me walk. And then. I had to take two classes to like. Check some boxes. And then fucking packed up. The minivan drove out. With like two bad sprinklers players. and. Can Dream. At Bet, you're able to use that discipline from from swimming in apply because. In La it seems like some people. They come out to like achieve something, but there's not a lot of follow through, but seems like you guys really had a vision. Pulled out I mean obviously meeting the Dudes, the game changer. But when I moved out I, didn't know shit like I. I just I didn't know anybody like in the business I went on like craigslist, looking for jobs and Shit I actually worked retail low-cost on Rodeo drive for a few months, which was sex solid. Healthier year. And, then like craigslist for jobs, and like I think I got my first internship off of something called entertainment careers dot net. I don't know if it exists anymore. I don't even know if it was like a legit thing at the time. but the thing I don't know if it was like disciplined. I also coached swimming at her to. but it was like I had all this fucking time now. I had energy and I needed I this void of like. The thing that mattered in my life is gone. It's over like I'm not going to the Olympics and. I needed something and I filled that with writing movies, and like writing and watching movies in light. Thinking about how to make them And you earlier like allegory like your direct to`real influences. And, somebody who like. Really changed the gears for me. Was Wes Anderson. Like I'd seen bottlerocket in theaters when I was young. But I was like I. Dunno deceived fucking cool. I remember watching the trailer in his leg. A NO TRIP to Cleveland my this Guy Seems Rad. When saw, but then when I saw rushmore, which was way more stylized I was like. Why is this so different like what what wisest feel different than any other movie and then go? Wes Anderson this dude and like the autour. Era came in like Paul Thomas Anderson Tarantino kind of art during his thing, but like you had that ninety s era of like. twolers. Spike Jones and David Fincher, and all those guys hundred percent. I was dislike. Oh, this do like. Twenty, nine or some shit when he made Rushmore Twenty six when he may bottle rocket like. It was like a young dude, so my whole thing when I got to L. A. was. Make something like legit movie by Twenty Six. Yeah! That's just like in saying I didn't hit the mark, but I had. Some nibbles and like some gigs. BEF- like by the time I was twenty six and I was like something's happening. And then met the dudes out here. In like five or like Lehto Four. How'd you guys meet? I met Adamant Second City la which is like. Where nobody. was used to be. was you see being groundlings already better at that point than second city? UCB didn't exist out in la yet. But groundlings was like the show rallies was where you went. If you like for real and serious, because Will Ferrell Sharyo Terry like that era of SNL had just come from there. But I. I wasn't even going to do acting, but I had some friends who were like. Will you're funny? Why don't you go do? Second City, which is that back in Chicago now? The Guy Yeah. I know what that is. Try that out to like meet people. In the business because none of my friends were in the business, they were doing like sessions ship. And then that's when I met him, and he had Dr-. He was driving up from OCC. where he was going to Orange Coast college that's tried to go pirates, saddleback rabble school rival Jim Collins Right. Yeah, right, ease up. And so Adam met Blake and Kyle who grew up together at OCC. And then I was like Yo a writer. All right you some stuff's Adams like I. DO STAND UP Olympian actor a fucking move star I'm like you seem like you're gonNA, be one. let's start doing some stuff together, so we I would rights and stuff, and then we would try and go out and pitch it and like, and we started shooting sketches, and Youtube came out. I mean this sounds like. The fucking Now like we were doing this before you to. And then when you two came out, we were like Oh. We're not doing live shows really anymore. Let's just film it. Could it up email to our friends and that whoever else wants to watch it watch it. And we didn't go viral, but like we were getting thousands of hits, you know. I love I watch some mail order comedy like. The. The. More dudes the beer the bureau. Bring was bring on the dudes. Yeah, that's. It's so funny I. You guys sort of created that that. Sort of spearheaded that model of like. Put stuff out there and that SORTA how you? You Carve your spot in the industry or or get a show? I mean old we. We were like we're doers like you're saying as far as like work ethic. I'd met some people who are Gab writer. I got this idea of sunny. Get Down on paper and I'm like Yes luck off. That's not real. Or you have actors who are like. I don't want an agent and you're like. Okay. What the fuck are you talking about? And then people who I knew would just like hardy all the time constantly and I'm at home like writing ship. And then they'd be like dude last night, I was a XYZ directors house. fucking do shots with like I'm GONNA. Go pitch to him on Monday and I'm like. You know like fuck out of money to like this like a kid partying, but like this. It doesn't even have a screenplay yet is written. Anything was go pitch it to this real director like my fucking. Party more. Like me and the dues meat. Unlike Tuesday's and pitch ideas. Thursdays we would am Susan. We'd like pick the one we like. Thursdays. We would like. Have a script that somebody wrote I would write. Somebody's idea and they go not that but this and punch it up. Make it into something like. Super Doke. For the time Dope enough and then we would fill in on the weekend and we would just do that every fucking week. Yeah, for years. Never went viral. You know when we would see. Other groups go viral and be like talk. Do something more topical. Like our home is a derek comedy. would crush with like Bro rape yes. Yeah They did it. But then down, dirk as wrote workaholics later. We'd always be like we just want to be man. Just wanted to be you. Yes, but that was fun. I mean it was like those are like the fun lean years. Where like? I was at one point when we were doing stuff. I was a an assistant like a production assistant in the Writers Office of Real Time With Bill Maher. In on the weekends. I would have the dudes I'd get them like drive on to come on. The Lot would just jam in the like production trailer and like Princeton out like eat snacks on a refrigerator. Just get that like taste for oh, like in real trailer like on a lot like making shit up. Things quoted like those dudes as soon as I met Adam I knew he was. For real like he wanted this and Blake, in Kyle the same way and also brought like. A cool, different energy, and when we're all together. Even though like. They are young three years younger than me like in school or whatever and also just kind of vibe different than me. We they were like open. I like what you bring and I was like I love what you guys bringing. Yeah! It seems almost like magical has sometimes a squad can form like that it has such great chemistry just naturally. Is sometimes like. With us, we, we need like we have like strider Joe. And yet jobs right behind the kitchen. Yeah, and even. Even with like jt I, think we just we just Gel Dino and the people that you great chemistry and we're like Oh. Cool laid. You Guys Austin. Given a beer bong at a party when this dude, yet for Beerbaum one guy couldn't do it because he was on antibiotics. Hometowns. I'm a San Juan. Capistrano now. My mom lives in San Clemente. Stood coming from the Midwest. And hearing these like names of places is just like magic. Astra No. It, so like the idea of California and my brother went to Ucla, but he's a fucking trailblazer. He's just a g But like hearing about California from like. CHICAGO! It was just like this other world. This was like before the Internet was popping off everybody in. Across the world I mean like. It was just an idea and I remember a friend of mine came back. From. To worry was, but it was in California came back with in-and-out t shirt. and was like. This is a place in this is a place in California called in and out in the of the greatest fucking cheeseburgers. And like the back it was like the trees with like the fifty seven Chevy, or whatever and I was like. I'm never gonNA have to hooper. It's too far. Oh Dude Saudi. Arabia! And I've had it. What do you think some people say? It's overrated when they come from out of state, but. I'll keep it realist. Fuck right now. I think it's a very good burger. But like. Shoes don't do this did. Dude. Also five guys Dude No. Can't I can't let you slide on that one. Did our logo. We sold out logo errands coming in our dog, he loved. He hates in and out air hates. His on your team. You know what I will say when people say, how do you feel about the fries Erin? No, they don't. Know. He's we can't. We can't hear you earn. Sorry absolute trash. Talk. Know. The. Fries the first time I had the fries I was like. Crumble in your mouth a little bit and as I would. Cool. If you get them well done. Ask for them like well done. Yup, what serious, but like just like. I don't WanNa fucking do that. About, you just make them the Chris way now to go. Why are they falling apart remount? So. What's your Go-to or WHO's? Does anybody have a super specific burger or a yeah? I. Know You I've followed your path on. She blazed the trail, so hit him with it Just forgot the name of them. What are they called Flying Dutchman I'll do my bad my bad. Brain fire since Oh, look it up, dude! He's never even heard of it. Shown on now now now I. Even that like this is bundle bottom bond now. Like this, this is cheese, grilled cheese, but the bread is two meat patties. So you have a me, patty me, patty with two slices of cheese in between in that, and then you get some sauce on there, and that's that's a. that's a rain mail, no brands. Because we're trying to stay lane, we're trying to cut. You get it. Do you end so because I know who like? Double Double Your. Raw onions. Onions Chop Chilies Oh wow! No tomatoes. And then like the animal sauce, or whatever like to me. That's animal style. Is that's on the day thing or I go? Feeling and Meghan Will Stop Nice did. I like the Burger that crunches when you bite into it with like lettuce. In the onions I, think about the. To, it's the way fits in your mouth like it it it. It's like form-fitted tear. It's like a tempurpedic burger for your mouth. It just slides in their kind of Nice and I think that's disagree experience Kansas. Agree all, thank you I appreciate that. Yeah, we ride out wrong. Thank God. He's getting more competitive as all. Competition is good dude. I think those other Burger joints I. don't see in and out ever really. because. Part of what makes them so special is that they don't change what they do. It's like steelers with three four defense or something like that. Is, just how we do it, but as you guys get a pair of those shoes, they dropped. Now Oh! They're like vans. They live. The Cup design on Jag out I got COPPOLA'S I. Don't understand how you guys weren't gifted those. We stole their logo for podcast. Oh my gosh. Yeah. We paint them. Is Yeah. They should hook you guys. The fuck is the shoes are sick. Dude what was it like? Did you get to meet a lot of luminaries on Bill Maher as a PA like we ever like getting coffee for like Salman, Rushdie or something like that? Yeah. For sure him who else will come on. I, mean mostly on Penn. did you ever have a conversation like Sean Penn would go on there and get fired up dude, you'd never like you could never really. Hot with people in less day started him. If you're right of course rice. I remember walking Alec Baldwin and just fucking like. zips and then he was like Dettori and to Mike Yeah. What's you know? And fuck else. I remember seeing. Ben Affleck and being like pretty tall. Six Four. Yeah, I remember that episode whereas. He said George. Bush was like a lion, and we keep feeding red meat. That was the key had Houston. I mean he's he's an interesting. I think Yeah, he's at least got some good ideas in this brand. But yet it's funny to like I was a fan of the show I would just email. They're like production department over and over trying to get a job there and I think after like a year. They were like actually we are hiring. Come on by and I went in and was like. please. does persistence. That's awesome man. Yeah like I would. Like fucking scrapping and clawing, and like I have. My wife was my girlfriend at the time and was like. Making way more money than me and was like. How long are we here? Why are we doing this and I mean in a Mike. Just fucking, please. Just let's keep kicking it and we'll make it happen. But yeah just. By any means, necessary. And then you did you ever smoke weed with bill? I think I smoked weed with him years later. When. I was at a premiere of Seth Rogan movie that he was in I was like hey and he was like. The Guy Injured for you or a via trio and music. Yes, of course, you're the one who got the show and stopping like. Isn't fucking remember me, but like knows that somebody went on to. Do a show. And there was a circle people. He had to smoke weed with me. I made him. But now on the show like I was the clean her like after the show was in the Green Room. Everyone would party in Heff Sawn as far as guests and whatnot in friends with the guests, and then like he would. Rather a pubs get along with the Democrats after the show. When reported may be kicking, they'd be kicking on. That's interesting I mean. I think there would always be like maybe somebody who got eat. It was like I'm not GonNa fucking talk for snap of the show, but like a lot of these pundits like the run shows all the time so much that like. Some of them are. They're cool with under their fine in enemy. They disagreed, but they're like. Do like this off the air to like constantly. I don't. Mean Christopher Hitchens I love the Guy I mean I was there when he was there that he was the man. He's fucking swagger yeah right. Wagner. Took it to Mos Def on that one episode. So tough because I'm like the biggest love. is like the greatest album of all time maybe and when he was like Mr Definitely can. There's no coming back in this. Most devs talking about like? He was kind of like in over his head like there was some of the stuff conspiracy theory, but like you know you wanna give him the benefit of the doubt, and then when he's copy no. Like in Iraq or saying, this is I was there I went there again. I'm not like just some guy talks about like a world traveler i. go there my life. My Life's work is to understand these things, and then come here and tell the story. Yeah, he was a house. It fair liquor disarmament there, and he's like because of the tree of two, thousand, four and credentialing. And then you're like dude. It's like alright yeah. For. Hard to watch. But Cornel West helped out Mazda Snow's good notre I love him. He had some nice to of the day. Is just always coignon. He's just. A Guy. Like. He's the man up. Eight o'clock my family is cheering for all the essential workers because that's awesome. Will help out. Open my door. Let's keep it. I love. This is GONNA be. Somebody's like seven. AM podcast listen? Yeah. This isn't live, okay. Are Just for you. How are you keeping your head on straight during like I mean now we've come through all this chaos with corona virus now all this civil unrest in societal anger. I mean like look as I. Keep My head on straight by like that. That's how you put it. 'cause like my head is staying straight like I'm not confused about anything. Like. Everything going down? What's up man? I'm I'm on a podcast time. Wait, let me talk to you later attack. We close behind you okay? Okay because door, thanks guys. Still Dad Like fourteen hit and like we, my family will just like all right. Let's do what we do. We got a face mask. You know it's been. It's been fun. Spend a lot of. Time with kids, which is. Ably Don't. Like the benefits is like kids way more teaching math which is. You know I feel bad for the kid, but like it's cool that weekend to do that I would have. Not done that as much. And then as far as all this stuff going down like. The biggest heartbreaker. For me as finding out how many dumb asses loved workaholics in our fans of me in the dudes and don't understand the idea that blackouts. And like. How? It doesn't take anything away from them. To say. Black lives, matter and same black lives matter. You know it's like. If there's a fire in California you don't need to go. There's hurricanes in Florida. They're still fires in California. If, you can't like acknowledged. What's going on for somebody that sucks and like? It's just a selfish thing that drives me crazy when people are like what about meet my lifestyle like I'm sure your life is up. Life is tough also for this very specific reason, and for you to knowledge. It would be huge you now and then, but they WANNA do that. It's tough. And I'm not somebody's flicking. I'm not to go around teaching everybody you know. I was saying this earlier before we I'm like. I'm not telling anybody to follow me because them. The discourses over like. They don't know what I'm about, but if you stay following me, you could for involving my way. Go for it, but. If you stay following me, you'll see him about and as you think you on a party with me and be my friend then this is how you need to think this is how you need to behave. You know, right? It is fucking crazy. Yeah just I don't know people who are. Will send me stuff about how the writers control, but never send me anything about when there's these abuses happening against blog, it just feels like. They're just not sides so. Yeah It's a bump wild man, and you don't teach my kids all about this. I mean he's six and like. It's never too early to be like this. What's happening out there and then? Yeah, no can be like what crazy. Why is it? So unfair negoti exactly. You know. My wife works like human rights for an NGO so she's. She's on the line everyday. Ella Yeah what what is she doing exactly storks for care. It's a huge Humanitarian Organization, mostly international, starting to build things here in the US now and. Yes, she's just been a few years, but she's always done this kind of work. Mostly with like women's rights and that kind of thing. Announcement Raleigh was care care packages comes from. This place back in the. CARE packages during. Old War. To run. Now? They're just like a global. Superpower of health. It's awesome I, know she? was like I think when I grew up I. Kinda hated it when artists talked about politics is back. Can't you just stick to your art? Limited now that I'm kind of in that walk of life. I'm like you do feel a responsibility to. To speak on it. Like. Yeah I mean look. I am I'm a fucking idiot like. I'm not a smart dude. Never was I like. Some concepts just never understood in school all this stuff flag I'm putting together like the one tweet. Send out I'm like the -sition fucking makes sense mit guy that should be articulating this to like. Other dumb people like me who? I think are on the wrong side of the discussion. or like early going, eat me for breakfast. A dumb ass did like and then I'm not helping anybody but the thing I come to terms with is like. I'm going to say what I would say if I wasn't in this position or not. Right which is just how I feel. And there are more articulate smart people that make better statements than made that are famous. End. My French and back home will just blast off this tweet. About like. And you're like WHOA. Can I copy paste that shit? I'm not. George. Clooney and thank thank God. We have somebody like a George Clooney or new. Whoever else who like really understands the scope of things like this. I'm not that guy, but I know wrongness. Either question about workaholics with the writing Did you guys have like? You guys have a list of like things from your party lives or that happened in my college and stuff that you're like. We got to put this in the show like poop, dollar and stuff like that, so like yeah. poop dollar was one thing that Adam's friends did in high school. The chop was something that happened in my high school. and yet there were dislike like I'm I love. I mean as you guys to hear I. Don't shut up. In a writer's Room I love like talking and getting people to talk about. Their high school experience or like whatever like dating experience dating live. Tell me about your bad day. We want your best date like. Where can we mind stuff from your life that super specific, and then put it in an episode, and then kind of window, dressing to like fit, and or maybe ambulance little bit to make it more exciting, but grounded in reality that you live, you know. Any people would always kind of bring their their stories from back home. But there wasn't like A. Set Board of we did this. You would hear stories of like worst mistakes One of our writers was like. When we were I think he was probably fifteen goes. We got a paintball gun. And we went to an overpass into started shooting at cars. and. It was funny, and then like the police came with like guns drawn, and they fucking booked. It any slept in the sewer for the night. Shift. And then I i. think maybe that's where we got the Ninja. Turtles. Episode were like bolting and we were like there's nowhere to go. We gotta get into the lift, manhole, cover and climb into the second sewer, and then we were like. All right, so we're in sewer. A bunch of Ninja turtles all right well. If. Ninja Turtle Right obviously when you're that, you start having a breakdown and the writer's roundtable. Will Your Donald Telo, and I'm like. In their like. So, that's like that's like your story for the episode. So yeah, hopefully, hopefully, things were organically built Sometimes, they weren't sometimes. Somebody would come with a dope idea that was just like Yuck. You left a mail each laughs on Allison's machine. You're super hungover need to get the get to the office to delete it. Before here's? By your Super Hungover, so you need to drink in order not to pass out. To delete unlike obviously, that's not someone. Nobody did that in real life, but again as a device for an episode. It's fucking turned out to be a real. Rocket why you guys had that? I think he is I say famous. It was like a famous list of like I. Think going into like season five or six where it was like a list of things that you guys wouldn't talk about because they were hack at that point. Yeah I mean I. I I'm like. Got Too much attention. Will Look. I'll say this. I didn't like it or it was leaked. One of our writers like check this out and. That's fine, but. You know don't. That's ours feel like snobby. The did you? Did you feel like snobby? That got out there. Or something sure I mean if you WANNA, make those fucking bad hacky ass jokes. That were solid gold. The first time they were said. You know like I. Just throw my mouth a little bit. The first time. I heard that I was. Thousand, that's the funniest thing I've ever heard. Yeah years later when you're hearing like ants, Sega or like. fucking whoever you're like. That's not your joke. Comedy Writers who are paid professionals who in my opinion, your job is come up with the new fucking joke. Come up with the new. Throw them out a little bit. Don't just say mailed it. That's a fucking commercial. You know, and we allow commercials just hijacked shit. From people to say commercial inside a huge thing, but like see were combating laziness. Yeah mild thing was like. Let's not say these. If, there was something we heard that was super common. Don't put it in there like. Like I I have I got a whole thing going with my buddy, one of the writers now or we just text each other when we come across one like one recently is Co Cool. Don't do. Allies. Say That I said I. Know I know we all do go go go write it down and get paid all right right now. I mean. Right. Right Really! Really Dumb What's one that I said the day here? Today I know what you mean though when things like start getting passed around and people are. Passing in office witty when they say it, and you're like you're not being witty like you're just aping things you've heard that have been programmed into your head. Taking the cadence of wit, but that doesn't make it witty and then. You. At the world when stuff like that happens like no, this can't be. What people think is funny and look. You. Can you ever everyone can write whatever the fuck they WANNA right? This was our show, and like when I read a draft Mariah that had some shit. I'd be like. Can You beat that? Because that's not even yours right, or if someone would say something I would go, Zach yours like if someone lit me up with Barrio Jamaica that yours like somebody had They're like Oh and then he like AC slater's the toilet right like sitting toilet backwards. Is that yours never. HEARD BEFORE HOUSE LIKE fucking good. I. Wish that was your disappointed. Like one. The other day I said to my I sent my buddy was. I think we're saying the same thing. which is like it just? It's and a lot of stuff now. We're like UBER arguing their like. I think we're saying the same thing when they're really. You. Know like we gotta get down there now. I got a Burrito. I'm saying we need to go now I think we're seeing the same thing like right. Yeah drives me crazy. Yeah, is it? Is it when you're like so? Is it weird for you when you run into fans and they think you're that character. Well! I mean. I didn't do it myself any favors by keeping my name, you know and like. Like ours. That was my nickname growing up and stuff from. You know Do they always just want to get wasted with you basically? Yeah, it's tough I mean like just doing shots and shots and shots and shots, and then like at a certain point. You're like I can't I can't do a man like I know. You just walked in here and you want to show Canada's like fuck you. You're too good and you're like. I, don't I know like our experienced started for you right now but like. I'm here. Do can't make everybody happy. I don't know what to tell. You. Yeah you know they do. Get it on like getting free shots awesome. And when you do shot I'm sure there are like. It's gotTa make their day right. Yeah I mean my biggest nightmares getting ice. That was something that happened. Mike posts my college years, and like I don't amount into it. Back by the way, I can't wait for this to come out, everyone would be like. d'ors. Her case. That's can never join a Frat the the the the drinking that they put you through to specific and how I drink, I'd never could have endured like the forced-ranking. That was kind of like the norm. It would have killed me. Yeah, I, don't I? I think I can drink. A lot can't drink fast though like I can give I a shot. It goes into my mouth. And then slowly goes down my throat, which is the worst way to drink? Yeah, I can't slam a beer like I just do a gag reflex I. Don't know what it is. The carbonation I just can't swallow it. and I just don't like the taste. Alcohol I like fucking milkshakes from now. Did you ever did you ever. Feel sort of like insecure to like a bar being like. People think this huge party guy, but I can't. Party is hard as they think I can like. Did you have that Kinda? I guess. I like a sound like ridged douchebag. There's also like the part of you that wants to fulfil their idea. So, they go dude I saw him. We did a shot. It was exactly what I hope to be. Right? Yeah I guess it's like. Do you worry that you can't? You can't How better like make that dream? Come true for them? Is that makes you now? I'm superjet at old. Yeah, back in the day I go time. Yeah, it was fun like me and the guys would go on his leg. Fuck in tour. We'd go to COMECON LIKE Great you know each other, and like in addition to that, we had our manager. Who'd be like? The guys are plugging done like. We'd be like Isaac on a fucking. Far You don't get over there and like tell them like were so big time 'cause. We can't let where too big time so you vote for us. We're like the saving grace is a a bartender. Who knows what's going on in his like? Just order shots, yeager and we'll bring you guys coke, and then we'll get them yeager while Nice. What a legend's thank you. Everyone would be like. Bitch! I would've died. Time for you guys. Yes. You can find if you can parlay that with cool bartender. Is a game changer like the server to like. Bring it over go, so this is yours yours yours and this is this do that. Do you go, Hey? Hopefully we all die tonight. Yeah just! I don't know I'm sure you guys deal with it constantly you're in the mode and the second I'd hurricane right now. I guess that's. What we're the party breath so. It's that. Been, we were branded that by. Other people but Brothers yeah. Yeah Yeah, we're trying to figure out how we can make that happen, but it's like sciences limited. there. We get their day. What's? Guys hate the most or at least what was the thing that comes your way the most that you're like okay. Jameson shots now it's probably when people come up to me and like say. This sounds so like virtuous on my part, but like when people come up to me, and they say like kind of nasty things and think I'll enjoy it because I'm a party Bro like they'll come up to me and they're. Like I don't even know this. Like would you rather fuck chicks? Teacher asks. Bro. I just met you. This the kind of energy your Brigham to like strangers unlike you gotta like. I'm like it's just it's eight. He don't know what to say because you don't WanNa, be like hey, dude chill, so you're just like. Dude. Fuck the weird thing is like. In Like A. Adams really good at this. Like the Jujitsu of taking their energy and moving it. You know what I mean I. Guess That's like you like. They come to cities news. Go neither dude chill. That's crazy. Yeah, no, like or you Miss Energy you go. Not Ever heard you know. He, didn't answer would like. He's yelling back at me. Sums working and Brown says smart. Yeah, they had their experience in judo. Hide I think Adam did the me when I met at one time. You're like judo. At the. Improv and I was like super nervous. 'cause we have a show their house like. My Buddy Nassau's like. Ask Him to be in the, show. It sounds like. A, Adam, what's up he's like. Hey, you look like David Spade. Thanks. To it. Genius Yeah. Yeah short-circuited that conversation. Yeah, but then he was really nice. I was like you WanNa. Be On our show needs. I can't account this day, but in the future for sure, thank you. I am am David Spade do my show. I'm Sunday. Yeah Yeah, no, that's that's a whole. That's a whole. That nobody then like you sound like a Dick for talking about, but like in this era like Instagram, and all that shit like being beholden to everyone like people didn't use to see you were be able to go. Actually take a picture for second. Actually let me get a different one action by Homey is year like status voicemail? You should just feel like what's up killing. Get your autograph By. Address like do your thing like I'm grateful. That stands like they're awesome. I was I was about to say that. It's cool that the best part is when someone is like cooler than you. When you meet someone, you're like Whoa. You're a fan and you're like. You're like awesome ruffled night to have cooler friends because you liked like a video. That's that's pretty Julia Yeah Orlando The me and my dad watches stumped together and you're like yes. Yeah Oh. Yeah, someone writes you in. You're like Yo dude. Hey, I, know you guys like make comedy, but like I want like there's a message underneath that that got to me all cry for twenty minutes in my car and. Man Yeah I don't. We have gotten to the point where it's like you're like bombarded, too. It's like yeah, it's like Shows in suffered, they're. They're always like the nicest Bros... but yeah again like if they come up to two shots do that like. I Love Tequila, but if it's like a bunch of Whiskey shots, I'm fucking. I can't handle it now. Alex Soft Yeah. Haguit. Tower. Power and being setup. I put too much pressure on A. Nice when you're with your friends and you're like if like we shot like. If you get shots for me and my friends, I'll do on. but that's. Make the TAB and that kind of way. That's always fucking. Nice spread the wealth. Yeah, absolutely, do. Can you help us answer some questions from some listeners before? Is it like. Geography questions it's like. Site let life advice. It's like life. What is? WHO'S THE FIRST DUDE I'm Mon now you know that one. You guys think they're really on the fucking moon. This is an interesting one that I actually picked up anecdotally, but someone told me and they wanted to get our take on. Whether this was right or wrong. Is that added Fraternity U.? C. Berkeley there's a long held tradition where they take all the pledging. Freshman. Put them into a room with a goat and say that until one of them fucks the goat. They're not allowed to leave. typically there's about twelve to fifteen guys. After about a day or two, they only have water, and and maybe pretzels one of the guys will. Probably fuck the goat to get all the guys out of the room, and then with the Frat does is they accept all the other brothers, and they kick out the guy who fucked the go because no one wants to have goatsucker in the FRAT. What's your opinion on that? bets first of all. That's real. I think it's real, yeah. I don't know though it could be apocryphal, but that's. Passed so let's let's say Israel okay. WHO THESE GUYS! Why do you want to be friends with these guys? Go right next door to the place where nobody's fucking goat. Pledge there. That's where they make fucking though. That's that's not as bad as it. Yeah I. Don't know I mean like the, but what's the exact question about I? Guess they were just. Trying to gauge the morality of the situation desaix. Because because I think what they were frustrated with was that they thought the FRAT was wrong. They thought the French the French should accept the guy who had sex with goat because he didn't do it out of sexual desire, he did it out of You know honoring the group and you get. Time will do I will jump on the grenade biting the bullet. Yeah, like he's kind of a hero it from everyone's perspective, but the goats right well or we don't know we don't know that. This is Peter Singer says it's okay to have sex with animals if it's mutually if it's mutually pleasurable. How it works I guess if you are the lawn there and they begin it. That's a good clean initiate. Is it wrong if they initiate I. Don't know that's. I really don't know. I do know I I've had that thought Dolphin Sometimes I'm out surfing because I've heard they fuck humans, you know. Accorded Christie special. But I thought some dolphins. The other day announced like. The A cool story they drink up. You know had their way. Them. Thousand on thought our side shared. There's a good youtube video that we watched about that guy who's in love with the Dolphin and he had a sexual relationship with dolphins for like months, and it's. It's pretty eerie, because he goes into such specificity about his sexual relationship, but there's he has a. he feels very confident in his relationship, so it's kind of. It's compelling to watch at Minimum I. Mean They have sex for pleasure? I think it's us in them. I don't know the other animals, they dolphins and and my dog has. Oak Well Shit. They went else house. He's a beast for. all right, so so do we think that this we? Were saying the FRAT. Should just do away with the entire ritual of the goat. I mean. Are we exploding traditions everywhere? I think this one can go like Nah. Don't you guys WanNa? Be The like. Northstar fraternity than like is changing what frats look like? or Like as one of the ones that are like you know what? We're doing. We're changing and we're done with all this shit. Weren't lead the way and not just be due to do this. Shit member like, but we built a fucking house. For humanity style. If. You're still doing this show, yeah! Yeah that that's how I handled. The pledge areas in my fraternity is. Let's like. A weird awesome time. You know what I mean and just build on that. As opposed to. Where you have this tradition of like. It's like this. One Guy Tortures Guy. Nejd, it's like a you know. It just goes down the ladder and it's like. It's like. Yeah, it's not good way to build trust I guess. The bottom line is you're trying to make yourself. You're trying to make someone else feel bad. You feel better, not that yet feel better. You don't feel bad right? Yeah, we're here as opposed to like making someone feel better, so they appreciate you. which make you feel better? Yeah? I guess that's not the language. No honors. You just nailed it though, and that's the key. That's the Jack. Yeah that's the better way to live. Synnex time this guy bones the goat. Hey, sorry I put you through that. We're actually going to do away with that ritual. You'RE GONNA. Ask. You did it and your now. President of the FRAT, also everybody fucked a goat. Yup Did. What. Are they going to kick us all out? Yeah, that unity will be strong. or Go. Or that happy go! You everyone just takes off their pants. You GotTa wait. The comes to you right right. Like torch's over to everybody and then as soon as you. As soon as you fucked to go for just one stroke, you pull out your done. Give it to the goat go. It'll be like. Human Dick I gotta get more. That goat walks outta. That frat like chef learn like. This comes from Jeremy Hey. What's up? GUYS TO G- Legend Stoke Glorious. Thank you for all the stoke you provide. I'm getting into weightlifting I want to know. How many sets do you guys think I have to do for an individual muscle group for it to be considered a good workout. Here's what you do. You You buy the book American Psycho. You read that book, and then you look for the parts where we just talk about Patrick Bateman workouts. And you just allow those excerpts and you do that many Reps. Because he goes deep into. All of his workouts. And how many reps I want to say, he does like twenty reps and stuff. High Rep count. More death rather than mass. Do still stuck with Brady's journalist. Listeners podcast I do I. I listen I subscribe now I do to figure out how to listen to. The Patriot doesn't make any sense to me. You gotta get the APP the APP of okay game. But like. I'll let it stock up. And then I'll like lasers and stuff. I think he's interesting, says all sorts of shift that I'm like what are you talking about and then ten minutes later? Say something I'm like a love waste talking about. He has his obsessions which sometimes a derail him too often, but he's definitely. A real clear thinker. I like listening to somebody who I disagreed with. Sometimes, it's yeah. It I like hearing a singular Boyce like I said I worked on Bill Maher. Do I think bill is right? One hundred percent of the time now and I don't know why I don't WanNa tune in anybody. WHO. Has A team of writers writing every sentence. He says it's fact check by like. This group thing might build a system shift. Sometimes. You're like we talking about another time. Thank God. He's saying it. You know I think that reticent. He's interesting. Enough to me. That I forgive all the dumpster that he says to. and. I don't people can do that for me. but anyway. I'm a High Reps. Guy I'm not a low reps Gye. A more. Range of motion. Don't one of these guys. Right the short shit. Now. Out. Deep all the way on. The. Let them recover. D Do is slow slow on the way down to really you know. Tear it up. To I'll do fail right. Okay, Damn Jude Lewis Style Ray Lewis says he does every set to failure we'll. That's how you that's how you build. Our. You know what you're doing. Like I still have shit workouts from leg. Two thousand and two from swimming. Wait remark doubts. Try that again. I disliked scaleback. All the weights ship. Yeah! What do you do? Mat Work like a practice where it's just like work on the Matt. Russell twists. The Med ball the kicks. Yeah I do I mean what was crazy is for those kicks like because we did so many of them when I was swimming, it's like muscle memory. I could just go forever doing those so. I liked pike ups, you know. We go out toe touch. The fucking g HD thing where you're like off the back of it, not talking about. Cross bents in. Like contraption where you go backwards. Right yeah. Those are fucking brutal. Yeah Su only needs your Softbank. Dude you know I. Love this A masochist is slow to torture myself. I think I think. Three, to five sets of four different exercises, eight to twelve reps, or whatever, but I do lower reps sometimes I think the important thing is to get it in, but. yeah, if you do not think you're annihilate annihilating your muscle group, I think cross it to I think the tip of the spear for humanity I've been watching all their docs that are on who Netflix's during this quarantine, and I'm blown away by the kind of quality of person. They got mad fraser. He rocks. I watched the Games every year it's. Believable it's unbelievable. Good people I watch sports as someone who was like. An athlete swam so I know people can't relate to it or whatever, but I worked with people I swam people who were at a very high level right Israelite. Is William Olympians. Who put me fucking shame? When I got to the dealer level by light. Their pain tolerance by there like work ethic. Mental. Like, in sometimes insanity, whether dislike, the most competitive people you've ever met. And when they lose. It's fucking nightmare to be around them. And then they will be like one more. Let's go one more. was another one and your leg? Sure and then we. Got You and you're like all right, but like. You're off the her. You're like, thank ANA loss right after you're done, but these people. Do things that are just fucking believable as far as. The weight that they're tossing around an how many reps they're doing or how long and then jumping on something else and working like whatever the other muscle group is like it's crazy I can't wait till it gets more widespread and you have dunes who've made it like in the NFL for three seasons I'm still an athlete a again do that. Yeah, because our best athletes go to the high school sports generally yeah. I always think about that with every World Cup of Mike. What if we had Reggie Bush Dwayne Wade Lebron James like on our on our soccer team link. What what would that look like? Yeah, we don't. I thought we would I said something like twelve ago, I. Think I said that in twenty, twenty. Four seven the next world. Yet awfully, but I said then. I was like we will be in the finals by twenty twenty four for the World Cup because at that point like concussions were huge. Getting pulled out of the ball like by the. By the robes. Thrown the soccer. happened. Yet I think I think once we started seeing in the street. The way you see it in other countries where kids just have soccer balls on their feet, and they're like walking to school with it like we have to get to that point where it's like integrated into just our day to day. We've got our. Our athletes are good. They're like physically fit compared to other countries, but we just don't have. Everything in the world to make you the best. Right like we have the facilities, the equipment and the science, and all that dietary shifts anybody the best. But we don't fuck about soccer. which find the fact that it's the faculty? Have some college football. That's not. Football is crazy to Larry's. But it's funny. I kinda like it I. Like us? It's bracy this football. I know you guys have your football, but we've decided against the rest of the world's consensus that we have our own version of football, and it's fucking bad ass and. Kick the shit out of your foot off water. Is Fi like football football, and you're like. What are you mean, soccer? And you feel like Shitty. Czar Soccer Oh. Oh, you're Tomo soccer. I mean football. Football. all right. We got two more questions. Hey, guys faced a little bit of aggression in the lineup. It was wonder if you guys have ever had to deal with this kind of stuff and how you handle it. The story goes like this. It was about seven o'clock eastern time on a Friday. I checked this report and says tomorrow morning three to five now I, don't live in so cal three to five is relatively gangster I go to bed that night with dreams of legit laughs and ravaging rights. Wake up the next morning. Feeling like a million bucks hop in the truck and me and the DAD drive ten miles. Miles away to the local break. Surf Looks Pretty Dank paddle out on the fish ready to tear it up. It's pretty crowded. Usual I gotTA catch I way and a fact out a massive long drops in on the this dude did it to me tumor times. He's actually a pretty good surfer to Francesco and the boys took care of him in the pl later, but kind of a bummer should I have spoken up in this situation or just remains in PS. Do you guys intentionally follow me on? TIKTOK was under Knox. was that an accident also looking for a job this summer? Is there anything I can do for you? I don't need to be paid. Just experience would be awesome. sent from Samsung Smart Fridge three. You got a smart fridges first foremost right? That sounds cool. He sent Smart Fridge. That's the shit. That's awesome. What was he saying that? They beat up the guy. Who's your thing Do you know what the P. L. is I'm not familiar with that link parking lot. Oh, good, call dude! I mean that's where she goes down. No. Rope! Genius Dude. I was. L I was like. I just love later guy, and then the home is I just woke disaster, and he's like Jimmy advice for me like. Aren't you find into friends? BEAT HIM UP, yeah! Yeah do that, I would say. I'll say stays ended. I mean. You know I believe in Karma. Someone's dropping on you. That sucks, but. Sounds GonNA. Start dropping on him on him soon so. Yeah. Just maintain your etiquette in the lineup in. All will be well. When you're nude beach, it's always a precarious thing. You know there's people who were there who feel very confident on the waves and you kind of have to work around them. On, my limited experience but I think the thing is is if you can become the best surfer at that break. Known will drop it on you so I think I think it's always. What can you control and that's how good you get to just get better, and then no one will be dropping in on you if they everybody will give them the hairy eyeball. Yeah, love that. On all right last question what boys? This is mainly for strider. Schneider's. Our buddy comes on a lot. He's the relationship grew. He has a beautiful relation, and we always look to him for advice on how we can cultivate that in our own lives but if he's not on Chattan JT. I'm sure you boys got something cooking in the Dome so feel free to happen here I've been dating my girlfriend for every year and I truly love her issues. We both leave for college next year. I don't know how to handle it I can't imagine myself. Myself, breaking up with her, but at the same time I don't see it working out at all. If I can't see her, we would be a plane. Ride away, so visits would be rare. She wants to stay together one hundred percent, and if we do to stay together, I feel like I would miss out on a lot of college experiences with girls and Shit I don't know what to do. My guys also have any of you. Guys had girlfriends and other schools in college. And how did that go? Thanks, boys keeps stoking. Please keep me anonymous. He has a girlfriend in another school. he has a girlfriend I think in school and other going to separate colleges, and it seems like he's pretty keen to experience the full college single life, but she really wants to stay together. And he's not feeling like they'll be able to visit much because they're. Colleges are super far far. Gotcha I I think he's looking for us to give him the green light. But that's what I'm seeing so far. What do you think yeah under steady feel? Yeah. So my my wife and I were together in college, and she went abroad for a year and we were like. I was like look. Abroad for year on be here. Do we want to like? Have that phone. Call one time outside Oh like in four months when she's with some money on muddy, it's fucking weird. To say, let's put a pin in things. In when you come back. Will pick up where we left off unless we dump Friday. And then like it wasn't meant to be, she came back. Victims were left off got married. The rest is. History so like. If your girlfriend, who, from high school as my wife is my girlfriend. She's the one. You'll make your way back to her, or she'll make her way back to you. You'll get out there. You'll meet somebody who's fucking whack as fuck no-go. What is going on or maybe maybe you are going to be good at being single, you know. Or maybe she'll meet. Somebody who fulfills are more than you do now. Be Tough break, but eventually that would work down anyone. Else I give it the old college try. And then if it's if it's right, you guzzle, you'll get back together. The next summer and go. Were we thinking? Yet your fucking clothes off I love you. Know. That's nice. Yeah, I don't know. You're you're looking dude you now? Did you feel less like? Did, you feel more confident that you're making the right choice in staying with someone that you've known from so early in your life. Because you knew you had opportunities, so it wasn't like you were like always wondering what if it was Kinda like you? Know I know I. Know There's other stuff out there, but I'm confident in this choice. I sometimes wonder if because my friends have. Relationships from the longest tend to be a good looking guys who had success with that stuff early on, and then kind of saw the writing on the wall and I know I. Know a good thing when I feel it so I'm going stick with it. Would say like I'm like. I definitely didn't have like. I was like fucking Mr. Player will do. But like guidance had been dating my my girlfriend wife in high school. And then we went to college. I went to college. When you're old and I went, we stayed together. Didn't really work. And then she came to the same school coincidentally. Has Gone together in the year off. And then it was you know one of those years as then afterwards. We were like I didn't meet anybody who was fucking great united. And I think that. Yeah. There's those guys who like. They get hit on. Girls hit on. Right. So handsomer light has or whatever, so they know like. She was just wasn't chill about a man so like. Yeah. She wanted like a fan. You ask about handsome they get. They have like a fan meter where they're like when girls come at them, like fans there like. This is weird, but the Lega drill can be show about it the big O. R.. She's normal because they've seen praising I've never seen crazy. You know. but then I like staying together. That you just gotTa. Be ready to do the work. It's a whole other like. Saying, you know what I mean. I mean it's you get cellphones, Schittenhelm facetime and all that, but that'll be some more. Yeah I guess. I wanted to ask you this earlier. When you're like a like when you play the kind of love, interest in a movie or something like that like. Is it tough to play the part that you played like the intern? We're kind of like and unlike bull. Dude! Or do you when you read the script you like Oh. This guy is kind of like like did that read as like a Guy 'cause? He's not an admirable dude, right right? Right, yeah! That attracted to the partner. What do you think? They know I read i. read the script. It was like okay. I'm this guy. Yeah Robert De Niro's this personal in hathaway personnel as A with an And got the part. Give a fuck like what the deal is i. don't care from like the peeping Tom. doing that movie, right? In like Nancy Meyers like fucking solid, but after that there were a couple of movies that were like. Elect this guy and. I passed like I. Just did that like. KINDA WANNA be somebody that's not. That's comeback right. and in one of those movies they completely changed the character. So he didn't cheat on his girlfriend. And the movie was fucking also when I was. A. Good said Yeah. Done the movie or like? Attached to the movie May would have been like well. Maybe it's not right, but he does that. Let's change it the movie, so the interest in. Yeah. But, yes, far as movie. I was like. And, then and then you said you liked peachy a lot, and then I saw you were in inherent vice, did you? Will be a little bit I was in here. Advice. This is weird. This is the weirdest thing in the world. Paul Thomas Anderson. Watches Alex. And like we had heard about this Moore. Our agent like. News at the same agency as us. Ed He was like we'll hear some crazy Mike. What did? Paul Tone Sanderson. How! How do you know this? He's talking about it and I'm like this is crazy, so I auditioned for the master. Didn't get. It is not Jesse clements part. I don't know whether it was again. Remember I think it was like he wrote out saying and you'd do the same, and then he goes all. This is what you can do. And it wasn't even in the movie he was just. He wrote like a brand new thing just to test people on it. So I could be wrong. Maybe it was like one of the light cytology style tests, and I was like testing the money. But then I did another seen. It wasn't that I. Don't know, but didn't get it, but Jillian was in that movie. and then he brought me back for inherent vice. Heated you know the casting people do. And I read this cop. They're like okay cool. TO COPS! He's GonNa. Say the lines and you're going to be there and I was like I don't care and I went straight from the holidays to Pasadena was nice to. we pulled over because you're lucky and Martin Short, so like boxes jacked. And did like a thing, the other actor? Stu Wilson Bethel I think his name is actors on a rise up rise right now, and he said the lines. killed, it seemed like a cop and I was just like with the flashlight, and you can see my torso through the windshield and that. Is it But what I rose one night shoot and then at the end. The the. was like hey of Paul's come over and say hi, because he had been at like video village the entire. Like didn't see him. and he was like what's up. Man. Thanks so much for doing this. Was Awesome. How to drink and he just walked out. West on my sure. Drank like in at six am at this point because we shot all night. Is like so like. What are you up to like just for like? A minute. I'm asking all like the dumbest questions like. How long two weeks into filming you know. And like what are we to do like signed out? We have the same favourite, XYZ, no. And then I was like peace and I went. From there straits of Fred, sixty two fellows ate breakfast would just like a big shit eating grin on case like. I just met PTA. Dot Bad. To Fred six, a good good follow up spot for something like. You're. Awake five. AM It's? The only place. I think crushed like sucking pancakes or something ridiculous. Chili Cheese fries be thicker, but it's shoestring. You drop a comment card. Yeah, actually it's funny. I'm drinking red wine right now. I drank too much red wine. Win It. One night threw up in my my bowl there and. To us, that's where he threw up. Yeah, that's where boked. Have Ivan Amazing Fred Sixty to throw up story where. This guy who he was post production assistant, our Golics we'd all went the rat artie. Ben? After he was like hammer and afterwards PA. Took like this two days for like. Four em meal, or whatever decide rap, the season, and as wondered, is superbug and hammered and. The other PA's like man I think he's GonNa like. So, he takes him outside and. You. Guys can use those as far as you like slang or whatever, but the other day comes back and he goes dude. You just power wash the sidewalks. And he was like. I don't know what to do Mike All. Jet Like you know. It's four a M. my wife's GonNa. Kill meal be. I gotta go like here's cab money at home. They the next day I. Hear. They couldn't get cab because no one would fucking let him in because he was like you know. And then that dude pieced out, and apparently one of the dues from the kitchen's like I'll drive him home. and. He drove him home the Glendale where he lived with his parents, unlike knocked on the door and like the parents. Here's your. Twenty eight year, old state or whatever? But at power-wash, stuck with me for as good turns. Yeah perfect. Do that's good. yeah so. to this kid. I think go to college. It sounds like you want to break up for a little bit. Maybe try that out and then I think in time you guys will come back together and I look forward to the day when you're e mailing us about your upcoming nuptials so or stay together, but it's GonNa be a whole new work. It's going to be like. Right yeah is GONNA. Be a whole new ballgame. Yeah. I feel like he wants to break up. I feel like that's why he messaged us was to give him the green light, but I said that before, but. Maybe not maybe I love this because they're gonNA be like. Do we broke up a single and then Jesus you to meet some amazing premed guy who rocks and he's going to be like? I can't get fucking laid like nothing is happening and then. At holiday like they're gonNA. Come back to their hometowns me like yeah, he's like actually here with me. What's up, man? I'd heard everything about you. You select your great. And he's GonNa. Be Like Owen. Wilson meet the parents. Yeah! Yeah Good Call as I'd say stay with tried out. If he wants if he wants. Yeah sticking on get crazy. Believing. You Know Romance Glove. That is true. It's good to believe in stuff. All right do. You believe in. Yeah. I have my doubts. I don't know I believe in it. Questions honors. That's that's basically it. Thank you for coming on man. It was Anki especially when you. Certain stances man. It's really nice of you to still take the time to come on and talk to us and yeah, thank you for all the time. Course Man I'm just trying to show off my psychedelic snakeskin blanket over my whiteboards. Nobody can see what I'm writing jazz looking at that it's. It's. No if people get tired of looking at meeting, they can zero in on that sign yet, you. Know you? Is that your writer's room? Erin yeah, this is my like. It's like a basement office saying with like A. Whiteboard my computer system here our gym over here and now that you know this is like quarantine writers done Jim. coyle spat us. Workout some movies right now, Writing I guess the only thing that's real so far. treasure hunt movie was Vince Vaughn for Netflix. Alcohol Nice to we'll see. Where that goes and what happens when that gets made, and then just a bunch of other fucking place I'm spending. You know always is writing your favorite part. Yeah writing is like. Writing the most rewarding for me, 'cause you're like. You came up with it and you made it work. You know what I mean like. Improv Fund, because it's like. Allow that moment happened. It was perfect, right? Like, you can't get that back. Whereas writing is like you constructed something you made something that like. Built and turned into something immediate filmed resuming using actor fulfill role. That's just sucking cool to me, But it's a it's a slog. It's like lot of alone time. Being in writer's room for TV show is like. The greatest walls. That's the best show 'cause you're wrapping with other people who are like minded and quick and with it. Yeah, yeah, will you just like you're not alone? When you think of something funny, you say allowed loud and people laugh. They don't right. When you're by yourself, you think of something you don't say it out loud. You write it down, you go. That's funny, but you don't get that reward until very far down the line, and then also like. The reward is that everyone goes? We love what you're, it's. It's super funny. This line made me laugh out loud. So we need to change it, and then they just get right into like the work that needs to be done. Like whereas you can go on Ariffin. A writer's room about something that will never be filmed for thirty minutes. and. Feel like. You. Austin Bay. Area. That I feel like that, energy in the writer's room is just something that. It's like A. Such a unique feeling, right? Yeah. There are always things that you're like what we can't film that can find that one. That's just as phony outrage saying you can't film. Find a way to do it and you. You pull it off like it's doable like. That's just like the fucking best. Yeah, and you feel like your brain gets sharper because everyone in the writer's room smart and they're they're. The riffing is so fast that it literally like a workout for your brain. Yeah, I'd. At night, sometimes, I'd like fucking tired. RIFFING Be The most tired I'd I'd kit yeah. I think. That was just my battery. Serving a good ten percent left's timely. Your but your minds also go your. Rain is still going I would. Be Like It's working. Just stop turn it off. Yeah. You don't need to be funny here. When they interview sprinters during the Olympics, they like just finished the race in like. How wasn't? That it was. Godless, does boxing boxing guy gets knocked out or gets his head rock for twelve rounds like they're like? X. Louis. How do you feel after that fight he's. Wish you went better you like. He's not going to be like super with it. He just got his head. Bob Right, I I'd one last thing. Did you think of Neil mcdonagh's the game over man when you were writing at because he's such a good bad guy. And also bad guy we didn't we we had that was like are Lynch pin casting. We knew we had to get somebody super diabolical. That is like a bad guy, just instantly to because he kind of has that energy. I mean that dude has those is those fucking. If. He wasn't in movies like big sinister. Like I don't know what else he would. He was like the guy that hurts. You rented you your car. He'd be like it's. He's too yeah. Exactly right keys on the back tire you're like. Murder out there. In the PM. That's a home saying from here on out. I don't care who gets it. Or what? Burnell yeah, he was great. He killed a dude. He's a Vancouver native and we were filling up there. So's a no brainer. Nice Yeah Alright sweet thanks. Ed Thank you for coming on. Of course, thank you for having me Kiva Stoke Alive. Dude. Aggregate Linen. He was cool. Yeah. That was awesome. Yet A girl last night. Message me. She's like. She was like Not all cops bad I'm like I'm not saying that I'm just focusing my attention on. A different situation I'm just worried about african-american people in America and then she was like. She was like you know. What with these protests I'm so over it. She's like I'm just over. In the nose, like yeah, I think I, think black people are over. Over a lot of stuff. Privileged to be over yeah. I know I'm so over it I was like Oh. Wow, yeah, so you feel bad for a day. It sucks. Yeah. Seeing a lot of accounts that like. They just joined twitter in March. It's like. Something Weird, about that like yeah. Dicey stuff! There's been some dicey stuff for your like. My friend Sarah had a thing on her instagram. Where it's very clear that someone who's purporting to be a protestors, sprays pepper spray into someone's face and then And, it's like it doesn't look like the kind of pepper spray. Just pick up on store. I don't know why they would do that or or what the gain is, but I think it's just A. Certain people are just trying to chaos. Yeah raise a tricky one though like. You spray that you're getting it like. You Oh. Yeah, because it's not directed. Yeah, it's like a Kobe sneeze or something. That's the one thing I wish. People were more careful about. This pandemic still happening. Yeah people are just acting like it's over some very important stuff, but yeah, but yeah, be safe as well, yeah. Yeah, I think. A lot of cases will spike. I. Hope not the. A. What's up guys I'm interrupting this podcast. Let you don't once again that we are brought to you by manscaping landscape. Thank you so much for keeping our trims peeved for looking after our hogs for making sure that our D. O. N. G. S. dongs are looking fresh and clean because guys. The reopening is right around the corner. There's a chance that known senior balls and few months, but don't ruin your first post. Quarantine date with the ball throw. Would you show up to the first day of school, not a haircut not. You gotTa Trim. THOSE PEERS BABY! Yet reentered the world looking pristine my dog, so yeah, manscaping shared provide you the best tools for your grooming. Experience and Guys I'm I'M NOT GONNA lie, man scape last night and A slipped in bed nude. and. Is A game changer. 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JT, Wedge Dad's say. My Dad said that he was really proud of us for having a sponsor. And for making that dollar as the business savant in a proud capitalist maddow jacked on US making headway in the advertising game, and then I said but dot. Beyond all that have you tried the product and he said all right. Let me give this thing a go round. My Dad came back and he showed me the cleanest, said Cubes I've ever seen. Just a beautifully groom section, I saw my dad's cubes and looked. my Lord Chad. What's your for the week? Maybe for the week. Is The collar daddy beef? Has Been following this dude. Good beef! I've been following it, DUDE! It's so interesting. I listen to Dave Portnoy's podcast on it. And been following the beef dude I mean in. It's a good lesson for anyone in a partnership with someone about how to handle the bids Do, not let cash get in the way so basically caller daddy's one of the top podcasts in the niche. Soviet Franklin Franklin Alex Cooper and they just you know talking about girls stuff, you know they get. They get down and dirty. They're very real, and I think their audience. Really response to that and. They, they signed a three year contract Barstool and Starting as creators. From what I gather, it was a pretty standard contract. You know and the big thing is that bar stole was own their IPO. or their IP my bed there I he owned they own. Their IP is a three year contract. And with the amount of listeners that they're getting. The Money A. Does Not match up. But at the same time they signed a contract when they were just starting out, so they didn't know how big it was going to get. Although, you should always ask act as if. You're going to be huge. But. So they're renegotiating and Sophia got new boyfriend, this dude, HBO, or whatever and his talking inner ear about how you know, they can make so much more money which they can look at like what Joe Rogan's making. They're putting up. Joe Rogan number so. You know the like their contract was like seventy, five, thousand, a year plus bonuses for like extra downloads, so coordinate portnoy. They're raking in round five hundred thousand year. And so they're renegotiating installing on the contract and and then you know. Alex stay with Barstool because. Barstool was like like this is ridiculous. But we'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA make a compromise here. Here's a new deal. You make five hundred thousand a year guaranteed plus bonuses emerged and all this stuff. And at the end of one year. You get your Ip. So You know. They probably could have made more money, but I think the important thing was is that they were going to get their Ip back? And then they could go do whatever they wanted with the show. But one of them Sophia. Didn't WANNA do that. And then Alex wanted stay with Barstool, so they were beef in hard. And eventually it got so bad that they just split Alex on the show. Solo so fi is out. And It's A. It's a bummer for their friendship. You know, but it's important lesson I, think just to. You know. Not. Let money get in the way, but also think about the contracts you're signing. Oh Yeah Dude I think judy was yeah. It was good for me to listen to. I was like I'm very fascinated. By I think the world right? Yeah, and then. I can't understand. It just disappeared just not like Barstool. Did she just want be on the Barstool brand anymore? Because it seemed like barstool boosted the offer, and put it in a in a territory where it seemed like it was more fair for for the listenership that they had, but then she still didn't WanNa go with them, and it felt like it felt like her boyfriend just got into her ear and convinced her that that it would be a greener pastures if they were like. I Dunno ear Wolfer something like that. Yeah, I I don't really. Understand her. Trans thought on it because like. If, I were her. I would just know even if she didn't want to stay with Barstool. Barstool help blow it up and. It was just one year I. Mean You just? Do Your Year than you can do whatever you want with the show. as opposed to just pissing them off so that they take the I p back in. You know it's. It's a whole mess so. yeah, it sounds like this boyfriend. Was just you know? She Yeah. He was just in our ear and she started. He's the Yolk he's a little Yoko Ono wish. It's very smart. The Way Dave Portnoy uses his. Visual his dismal platform to like handle his business affairs. Yeah, but I'm very grateful. That Mike Berta Lino. All things comedy doesn't do it that way. Yeah. If you like cross him, he'll just go straight to his audience, and it's very effective like he added like scooter, Braun at yet intellect, backing out, and he's very good at like recognizing that, but it's a and it scares me, but it's not. It's not what I would want from a boss. It would make me feel uneasy. Yeah. Out totally. I mean it's. A can't imagine it had. That happened to like us. It would suck balls, but it is very entertaining yet and we. Got A call from Barstool to when we first coming up. Yeah, now he made fun of me on him he he'd make fun of me, but he was like what you guys. A story I was like this and that now you know we're full-time. We make videos and Montes like you. Full time. He made a month. It's like well. We put a lot of fun. I I think we landed at the right place at Joe. What do you think? What do you think about portnoy going after the caller daddy girls online. I just I saw. It's interesting beef. I really enjoyed it. I'm fascinated by I. watched did the one girl Alex's entire thirty four minute breakdown I've been on need to. You did yeah I know what do. You think it's because we're in a partnership that it's like kind of fascinated to see. Yeah, I mean it's good. It's a good lesson like to let money you know. Ruin thanks especially for them within like a year I, yeah! Yet, and now they're going to replace the one girl in knits like. Other relate to me. I didn't know there. Yeah I think. Alex is back in Sophia's out. She's doing it solo right now. Okay I don't choose going to get another another host. I listen to her episode back. She's GonNa. Guess. She said she's canal. Have have fans come on to talk. I'm not sure if she's replacing the host, she may maybe in time she will find replacement. Yes, I don't know that's a great beef do that. That's that's one of my I've been fascinated by that beef. Yeah, everyone's talking about it. Every buddies covering it well. They're huge. I mean they I. Don't Know How many listening got, but. They're like they're on the list. They're up there with Joe Rogan right. I guess Santino called when since you know subbed in for Callan on the fighter in the kid and they had both color daddy girls on I. Guess he said one of you will get. A boyfriend will come in between goes. He said that. He predicted. That, as a common, I haven't seen the actual footage of him saying that, but people are saying. He called her yeah. Oh interesting yeah. That's scary. Yeah. Yeah. Air. What's your take on it? Just always always always. Keep your IB. Do we get? We get our IP FOR TC right percent. Is Yours now. She'll be yours forever. Yeah ABC's. Accompanied by Comedians for Comedians Yeah. Strider Scheider show guys, fighter show shows GONNA be coming out pretty soon get ready to. Dang and I was talking about it in. Dude Schreider is a few sieve about you Erin. You're like it's been super fun. Yeah, that's awesome yeah. Two best guys. Aaron. What's your beef of the week? Be for the week is with the local news. I've been watching a lot. obviously because of the what's going on in the world and the protests and Mostly been. WATCHING CBS to here in La, which is also ktla somehow? But man just there. There's one guy in particular. WHO's out on the street. He's in harm's way so I. Get it like. He's doing something brave, but he's he's just constantly. And then the the news anchors back. At homebase. Are constantly like. Putting their like attaching a narrative or Speculating on a narrative. And it's just. It's super upsetting because it's it's wrong. and I think I think local news should just literally just show us. What's happening like this guy talks? This guy on the street talks like there's not something incredibly. Exciting. happening. Right Front of them. Whether it's you know just. Just people saying how they feel. And there's cops right there, and this guy is going on and on about how this thing started. Dude, everybody knows. Yeah, there's not even a grandma. Turning on the news right now doesn't know what's going on. Yeah, so yeah, my beef is with those guys just. Just show us what's happening because. So much can be misconstrued. And then if all you hear is the misconstrued, then then that's all you think and it's terrible. Yeah. Yeah. I think that the news with how it's house. Yeah like I. If you turn, the news is just like the worst things. It's trash every time in. You're like and like you said with like the protesters like you know peaceful. Empowering inspiring stuff happening, but they don't show any of that really. It's just like they're like there. Riots happening in you're like. Oh Fuck and then you know you talk to people who drive through there like. It's not as bad as it was on the news and you're like. You know at what is the news? What's the benefit. Of what they're doing? They're fucking man. They're just trying to get attention so that they can keep their bottom line secure like they're they're. They're under existential threat. That social media has totally. Just destroyed the way people consume information and or destroyed their model for help. People catch consume information. They're just sending out awful messaging. It's it's ridiculous. Dude, honestly I went to the ride. Stay on sunset the right terms. Star I went to the protest. It wasn't riot on sunset, and it was like it was totally peaceful and if you were there I think anybody would have been inspired by what was going on. People of every color every age, just saying like Hey. What happened to George Floyd was fucked up. None of these people are trying to loot or do any of that shit. They're literally just trying to. Help people. Who are you know not being protected? I don't even believe that the news people are. Purposely. Misleading I just think. You? You don't need to be alive Mike for five hours. But you just don't. Let some of that breathe like it's not dead air. We're hearing. There's audio coming from. The outside world just. We don't need. What you know. Joe Whatever don't job racy. Whatever I'd love to hear joe-marie, see on the news. Yeah. We just don't need like. You don't have to fill that time like there's something incredible happening. We can all see it? It's not radio shut up. Yeah and I and I posted about black lives matter. I firmly believe in that I. think that that it's an important thing to to support and I think that it doesn't mean that we don't care about. Other people are compassionate, not limited. We're just focusing on the people who are I. Think are being most depressed. But but also I feel for the shop owners and the people who got placed on driving around day. you see sweet older guys who bulletin up there's or with would Schick broke from whoever? They don't have a part in this and it's just. It's a tragedy, but I think I. Think what started all this tragedy is and what the core issue here is the systemic oppression, black people and that's what we're trying to. If we can fix that. I think you wouldn't have these other issues that are affecting other innocent people. But my beef of the week. Is with, passwords. My for the weak passwords dude. I was trying to log into Microsoft xbox for something they're like what's your password? I'm like you know I. Don't Know My fucking password. Microsoft, why the fuck do I have password with you? Okay, and if you were like, Hey, you can't have the same password for everything. Because then if someone finds out your password, they have access to everything and I'm like well. I don't care I'm tired I. Don't need I got six thousand passwords. I don't know any. Any of them every time I go to my spectrum cable Microsoft my bank every time they asked me for my password. If it's not already saved the device that logging into it with I have to create a new password every time, and then so every time I'm taking the same old password ahead and I'm adding another exclamation point to it, and I'm just confusing myself even more or changing one letter, so it's capitalized because they have their own bullshit, characters rogue am and I'm just like. Screw all these passwords dude. I feel that I feel. It's so deep in my loins. Just that's what I'm trying to reach you. Yeah did I mean. With all these accouts dude. You got to accounts for like you know if you want to track your package there like you need to make an account and I'm like just tell me where the packages are a I. Want Green Juice I. Don't WanNa make another password. And then they're like connect with facebook. You know I'm going to connect with facebook. Yes, they're going to do that for sure. Yeah. That's a weird gray area. Yeah yeah it. Did you set a massive walkout facebook today? The whole company's revolted against Sucker Bird. Because he will fact check big t? I mean. We gotta get. A hold of technology in passwords accounts. In Our pubis kids I mean. Guy Do? Ro I'm stoked on. Though let's get a hold of the deer going to figure out all this shit. It's going to be a brighter day. We got this. And once we take care of Corona, and once we take care of racial injustice. Then we're going to scoot John over to climate change and we will fix that Shit, and then we just going to be cruising baby. It's going to be easy street. Is a dumb. It's optimistic I love it. All right Chad. WHO's your? Baby. The week. Is. It goes myself. What chatty our bid thank you. I. I got Sola Win in Warzone Too few days ago. and. I'M NOT GONNA I'M NOT GONNA lie Stoker's I suck. So I don't know, how does happen, but In those thirty minutes or less? I was free. In those in those thirty minutes of virtual combat when I had you know. EPIC SILENCE SM G or L. MGM can't remember with a thermal scope. I was free and I a every time I saw dude straight up. You know I think it's because I? Did that Murph workout I just you know. I think I was just channeling my inner warrior in and. I will post. I will post the the wind. Soon when it's more appropriate. To save you. Posted about your wwl, so fired up on it, but it wasn't the time for it so I had I had to take it down, but I'm so fired up on your your W. Thank you man! I was alone Saturday night, you know. was, thinking about the drill factor that got the W and I didn't know myself. That's Nice Dude are preserved I've kept the GES in my balls. Retain your Goo- Bro. Beast Aaron. Who's your baby that week? Babe the week. Is the block button. On social media. It's good. It's just like you know. What I got into with people was I just re tweeted? Something from someone else and got attacked by a follower. WHO's probably a fan of another podcast on HEC? Who hasn't had a problem with? but Dude. I don't need to go back as you. Know I think he was from from punchdrunk. I'm not sure that's all he had in his profiles. He loved the Falcons. You know I just re tweeted. Something you. He tweeted something else at me. Supposed to be equal and. It turned out. And I immediately I went into defense mode. Oh okay, let me see the source of what you posted. Are What you're tweeting at me as a guy from Breitbart, now my a Ha. Something's fishy about this and sure enough. Later on that night it was the video I was tweeting a video that was super cut of cops being violent I. It's horrible. Talking bullies. Yeah, it's not okay, no matter what happens. Yeah, they have to be better than. and he tweets at me. This video of this group of dudes like brutally being white guy. Horrible, too, and I'm like that's terrible. Yeah, not arguing that's not horrible. But I'm looking at. Your source is a guy at Breitbart. And he saying it's because of this scenario. This context and I'm like. I don't trust that guy. And then sure enough later that night it's because the white guy that got beat up and it's still horrible had a machine that he had a sword. Yeah, he was chasing dues with a sword under the guise of defending his business. As soon as you start chasing someone, you're on offense. What an that dude that dude came out and actually had some pretty good humility and his tweets. The Guy who got his ass rocked Oh really, and he said he didn't even own that place. That was a bar he liked to drink at any was protecting the bar because he liked to drink there. I. I admire the guys bravery not with a Italy weapon. Now he was, it was a crazy, and he even acknowledges look I in retrospect, probably stupid that I did this. Yeah, it used able to like talk coherently. Yeah, I mean I was brutal. So I'm I'm glad he's okay or he looked dead. Yeah, yeah, that video looks like. They left him, but I mean it scared people. You know and you've come at them with the sword, and then you'd lose that sort. Like! To show me only a piece of video as evidence or something, I'm like Nah, and and then you know just block, and then I sent that video to after in blocked, so he can still see it, but I don't have to hear back from. Blockbuster beautiful. What a baby! My Week is Oliver Player at I. Think one of the better care centers of all time. Incredible work in the three musketeers a time to kill flatliners lake plastic blessed. He's tremendous in all these movies, he is so good at just playing blowhards, but bringing so much likability to them, and I just think he's one of the most underrated actors of all time, and he's had some really choice parts that are in smaller movies like please give where he can really show off the full array of his skills, and they are immense so to everyone I would check out Oliver Platt. Platt Three Musketeers Lake placid. These are not great movies, but he is great in them, and he's just a treasurer Oh cazenove. That's another like who cares who remembers movie that he is just full of inspiration, genuinely funny, and he's dealing with mediocre scripts, and he's just bringing life to him so I'm grateful to have Oliver Platt in my life I thought about him the other day. We're not talking about Oliver Platinum. These fucking these so all. My baby the week. Chad hoosier allegedly. Malaysia Week is my niece Taylor. Either sent me a video of her. She started to talk now. She says thank you. Is The cutest thing ever seen. Oh Dude. You're the cutest thing I've ever seen when you say that dude. Thanks. fucking adorable. Thank you do the the girl MCS? She said she liked when you had a beard in our youtube met her wash one of our videos. Are Our youtube rabbit hole video. She said she liked when you've got a beard. Thank you? Thank, you yeah I I. Don't know I. I've always preferred the clean shaven. I appreciate her. Yeah get a lot of Nice comments when they had it I like the scruff. You Look Great. Thank you. Do we do dirty talk where we say we love each other. That's league. But then we agree afterwards, so we we don't. Aaron religion. Whatever works man? Legend. WHO. Is the center number thirty three Kareem abdul-jabbar these. I mean he's been. He's been advocating for change for so long. Know from the moment he changed his name from Luella Cinder. to? Sparring with Bruce Lee. Two dominating on the basketball court to where they had to like change the rules. There's no dunk anymore. Disguise to good. and then his article that he wrote for The Times of the other day is is just beautiful. Opera Renaissance Man Yeah. A move in NBA history, and then he's a beast with a pen to. strider tells the story often ride. I, drag shredders, see tinker tailor. Soldiers find theaters. I fell asleep immediately and slept throughout the two and half hour. Slog that Debbie is and criminal. Dole Jabbar Theater, and strider says he looked around the feeder. Everyone was asleep and then he saw cream in the back, fully focused on the. And? UNMISSABLE. Long ass back yeah. Yeah I love him. An airplane. Yeah, forget that bust. He, he's dot called a blacklist which is just like black artists and luminaries in stuff talking about their experience and he's he's so interesting in it. He's he's a really compelling guy. mileage of the week is mad, Fraser. He's the best cross-fitters in the world for years in a row. Guys watched across the documentary on Netflix. You'll feel shot out of a cannon. It'll just make you better at whatever you're trying to do in your day. This guy is five nine, one ninety five, and he just gets after dude. I'm talking Clayton. Jerks of jocking muscle up some dog pull ups. I'm talking upside down. PUSH UPS! The Guy can do it all and. He's going up against. Guys are on royds any still whoops that asked, and he has a great perspective on things. He's got a wife that he loves her. He lives in his mom's basement and he's a world champion from there, a loved accident thinking about moving into my mom's house and And he he just has good quotes. He says like look. If you look at any of these individual events, none of them are in my wheelhouse, but I worked out hard every day, so that I don't have a wheelhouse. I like get it Matt Freezer, and he's not. He's never bitter, and he's never arrogant, and he just lives in his middle place. Re just takes life as it is, and he's confident in his abilities, and that's enough, and I just found it very inspiring, so I've I've I've talked you cross it before for. It's kind of colty leg atmosphere, but I'm buying ending. Sign me up for the cheesy maxims in the heart muscle ups I think it's I think it works. Maybe that's, are you gonNA try Jim. Nice but. My head I think it's cool. That's awesome yeah. Chat. What's your? What's your quota the week? I'm GonNa keep going with a van, wilder. So this is van wilder. They're doing the naked mile run and. And, so he sat there with Terry. Reid. And she's like she's like everyone is naked and he's like well. It is the naked mile run. Everyone else will be in their birthday suits. And then this guy was like superheroes back just up gives everyone a high five and he's like. Set DECA. I love that part. That's. That's it. Dude keep going wander good flag. Era. Air, what's your quotas week? On my quote of the week is from that article that. that cream borrowed. FOR THE LA Times. Mike is on right Yep our new headset learn it. Three helicopter pilots on each other. let me see. Okay here we go. racism in America is like destiny air. It seems invisible even if you're choking on it until you let the sun in. Then you see, it's everywhere as long as we keep shining a light, we have a chance of cleaning it wherever it lands. We have to stay vigilant. Because it's always still in the air. That's awesome. My my quote of the week is from almost famous. It's from a deleted scene where Russell de Guitarist from. stillwater played unbelievably by billy. Credit is talking to the man character William and he's talking to him about our any goes, but it's not what you put in, is it? It's what you leave out. Listen listen a Marvin Gaye assault like what's going on the single woo at the end of the second verse. You know that woo that single. Woo that to you REMEM-. Silly things the little things. There's only one and it makes the song. It's what you leave out. That's rock and roll. Yeah. Did you know. About that whenever I watch love, comedy, movies or TV shows. You cannot you tell that whatever they're setting up as the big joke? Like the huge thing, that's not what I remember. It's little character things that they do like. It's always kind of like a smaller thing. That's that's. It's like it's which seems to be more like a happy accident or something. In And sometimes we'll huge bit that they're building up if they hit it with a needle instead of a sledge hammer. Your brain likes it more at appreciates the restraint and you're like. Yeah they're like you. Didn't you didn't kill me? Yeah, yeah, that kind of master and control to it. Yeah. Yeah! what's your? Was! There's something to that. Yeah! What's your friends that we forgotten after it? Spit on our genes. Dude. Put. Him on I'm wearing them right now. What's your friends weeks again after? A revolution. Ebony. My quote of the week for getting after for Matt, Fraser The aforementioned cross, fit legend He says thirty five minutes into the Dubai. Doc. That's on Netflix, says If you do bad stuff. You don't have to brag other people who Brag for you. and. I was like dude. I made me never. WanNa Brag again. That was cool shit. I understand the hotter that guy that's. Yeah he's. Innocent it's. All right guys, good stuff. Stay stay felt there guys is. Aaron good to see you two days.

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Death Becomes Her with Katey Rich

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Death Becomes Her with Katey Rich

"Right. Right. And you. Don't know what to say. To. Know up podcast. Now. Block. Man Why don't more movies pulled the fifteen minutes of Ila. Isabella Rossellini trick that feels like card to play all like one movie your should play that card. Yes. More movies. Offer a fifteen minutes of Isabela Rossellini wearing only jewelry. Hurt team is made out of. Various bengals like ball fell his Nolan. Never been like you know who should do this exposition Isabella. Rossellini like you know what I mean like someone like that. Brings. Who's better bring her in she'll just explain some shit and you'll be like that was very classy and sensual explanation bank you I'm very involved. I. Think it was enemy where she's got like a couple of really good scenes. Jilin halls mom where I was like Oh fuck major filmmakers are gonNA, Start Utilizing Isabella Rossellini in this capacity now, and then that way didn't have. There's joy. You can't. She's got that great scene enjoy where she's like I rule in business. Remember she has like crazy monologue enjoy a crazy model has nothing to do with what happens to the rest of the movie. Holder is the. Scenes real like wait. What does this have to do with? Joy Fascinating because somehow it defies space and time in that no scene has anything to do with any other seen. Characters actor or may thing It feels like watching New York I. Love You like somehow it's an omnibus movie of Plenty to. Past But that's the only movie that I can think of that did what you're talking about post to me like was like Oh yeah we'll bring in Russell leany for two scenes. You're right. It's like look I have not seen tenor because I don't WanNa die. And, I don't have a car but. That's the main issue right but I could see Isabella Rossellini being the one who does what wine after getting her name now. Who I love the French actress. Clem a Jesus Komo cuisine. Clements Posey right. There's her. There's another character played by her name is a dimple Kapadia who's like? She's she. She is the Isabella Rossellini role now that the person he cast his actually good but. An older lady who is worldly and knows about such things and you know can tell you about things over glass of wine like been hustling. Yes. Cheers. SPAN is drinking wine. He's got a glass of Vino in front of zoom background of Goldie Hawn and Merrill streets. down. King heads. He's wearing congratulations t he looks very classy. I'm very classy guy I gotta say I could see why she had disliked the modeling career she is just such a striking looking person. Credible face like. I don't know enough about her. Career only really know her. She's come up we might have unpack leany. There's one other big blockbuster movie using Isabella Rossellini to add a little gravitas that you have forgotten David. Of recent note or. This is going to see the you know where this is going. So yes I see it. As. Ambassador Henrietta. Celik. Incredible Sale. Yes, that's a very good point. Yes. Yes. I mean. Again. I'm looking at our MD. now she's done to voice performances in her life, and the other one is in a movie called my dog tulip that looks like. An independent animated film like. She's got one of the most famous voices bring her in. She was on the cover of vogue like like many months in a row like. Things. She into it I, mean well, we'll get more into it but like when you're not only a famous and beautiful actress but you're also the child of a famous and beautiful actress and the manner of your birth was famous like there was this. Gripping affair and all that I mean, you're going to have to be on the cover of Vogue like twelve times. So that's just going to have to happen. Like daughter of Lake Lake, golden, Mount Rushmore Hollywood star, right and firebrand political neorealist filmmaker born out of a scandalous affair she becomes a world famous model. Mary's two of the biggest directors of the twentieth century. Through. Married Lynch but whatever you know like. I think. Whatever you're right. You're right. Engaged Gary. Oldman. Yes she was with Gary Oldman for a bit. Yeah. but then also, yes, like world famous model started her own a cosmetics company. You must remember this really good Isabella, Rossellini episode talking about all the aspects of her life that don't get Scott and one of them was that she tried to revolutionize house medics industry standing up against what she thought was. You know like a big corporations owned by men trying to push different standards of beauty on women or to sell products, and she was trying to end it by saying I wanNA make high quality things with better materials. State set a better standard of women actually want whether the trying to sell them. An idea of what they should want and it didn't totally work. It was like this very admirable failure can I say the one thing that we haven't brought up used properly to episodes of thirty rock really early thirty rock episodes. So's wife she's. Johnny Yeah, you know my big beef and Cheddar it's the. Funniest Line of the first season of thirty rock by far. It's there's a lot of famous people who were in the first season thirty record comeback like Nathan. Lane Jak stat and like they needed to do better but I don't get what happened. I don't get why they didn't keep bringing her back her and Broderick brother performance in thirty rock. Those two episodes. Yes. Forgotten like hamlet kills my faith. Matthew. Broderick has given good performances and has had. A long and varied career and. He's obviously worked on stage he speaks producers. Might, be his singular. That's like his best work is cooter I'm not even being sarcastic and I'm not even being patronizing. It just makes me his little face makes me laugh so much in that stupid episode where he he likes. Donald polls off the lamp shade, and there's a candle of instead of. It there was there was a a crew member on the tech. Who here's our one? They pulled me aside and said. I don't want to sound mean. And I I really think he's a lovely guy in very good at his job but I come to this realization I need to share with somebody drive me crazy. Do you not think that blank looks like a little boy who's been dressed up his parents for Easter? And I couldn on see it and Broderick has some that entered now that he's done older and he's gone grayer he still just way he combs his hair and the way he wears his little sweaters and as you said, they've his little face. Iris Bueller like the awesome like cool. Wore gains. The Kid fucking with institutions the now looking like. Peter Serafinowicz was right. That's dead on description of this guy it. was a brutal brutal. Saudi this guy. Yes Ditch, Davidson favorite brace. Hey, listen what is this or talking about here? This is a loose fun episode I can tell. Y and we're constantly context. This is relevant. Cats because this podcast blank check the Griffey Day but I'm grip. On David. And, the podcast is about commodities the rectors who is massive success early on their career against a blanket. And her crazy has caused a want sometimes checks clear and sometimes they bounce down the stairs and you you think they're dead and they come back up and then they end up being excuse to. A lot of new special effects techniques. Gums of Robertson Marcus. Infamous Bobby. City. And they were talking death becomes her which I realized. I been making a mistake for almost every episode of the podcast so far where I say that I said that flight and used cars are the only to R. rated movies the bobbies. Getting about this. I. Did this was PG thirteen ally this already has has. Has fucking. You know has sex unlike. Some grownups having sex with each other. Believes are two things. One. I might be hoisted by my own petard making this statement as well. But. I would categorize this as Robertson Meka's last proper comedy. I think he makes movies with comedic elements after this. And watching. Forrest gump we were like, oh, that's more satirical than we remembered. But I think his latest movies after this point, our family felts. Not. Comedy for before I. Think I mean honestly the which is I guess might be a comedy like that seems comic in tone but I don't think he's made a film that you could call comedy since this. Gum Right. Was gump was drama at the Globes right like that's the. Drama, received as. I just think it's a thing we'd covered before the show. Burton's another example for me of someone who comes out of the gate and is like a comedy director I on four most and then starts to get caught up in the trappings of other stuff and with Burton is just sort of like the size, the machinery, the art direction, the intellectual property you know and was America's it just like partially it's the Special Effects Wizardry, but it also is a little bit. I think of what we talk honor used car. So alike, I wanNA be taken seriously. You know I wanted to be. A serious adult filmmaker I don't WanNa be seen as childish I. Think it's the same as the Spielberg thing even when he's making like. Populous movies there edgier because he doesn't want to be seen as the AMBLIN A to. Sort of yet seen wants to shed. His family right rep that makes sense. introduced our guests you introduce the show, introduce our guests, and then I have a question to ask. Our guest today water. Baths tanker the sixth time lesson primers yeah, that was the momentous moment, and now here I am just you know what you give bursary just Bobbin it's easy. It's Gel. You Gentlemen six Katie. Green. Six. I. Couldn't be happier. It's tough to make the five. You don't really become a gentleman. From local. Mother's Charleen Mother Charlie Charles Manson. And Sam. I guess. Sam Hasn't been on. The. He's GONNA I mean we're just GONNA have to wait until he's you know eight and you guys have. Many series will be doing at that point and they'll have both kids on to share their opinions. Doesn't have his own blanket PD paid yet where. After I don't. Maybe. This is how he gets it. He doesn't have movie tastes yet so. I Endear him to to the masses yet. It's just elmo right now. Seems to be naturally a sinophile lacks movies like we used to the movie theater together, which I loved and was looking forward to continuing to do and like obviously it's not going to happen for a while. But yeah, he's been watching. You watches a ton of crap like netflix is rammed with terrible kids movies do not get me wrong. Yeah I mean there's there's up kidding I can tell you but I can kids stuff on Netflix's. I. Don't know how many pairs lives in this show, but like story bots rules. But Disney plus has been very helpful to US watching fantastic Mr Fox in Lilo and stitch rock-solid. Is Fantastic Fox Disney plus it's busy bus. Yeah. Is it because it's Fox searchlight I I. Don't know how we got lucky enough to have it on there, but it works out. Fine. Obviously twice story foreign porky. Very. was just it was just Fox. So he's still down with forty. He's still don't we rotate the toy story is in and out. I mean he got this book from school that like lift the flap book where like it has a picture of the thing and it shows you the word on the other side. This is like calming thing. But as a Disney books, it's all Disney characters and the number of Disney characters he recognized on sight was terrifying creepy. A. Fully. Characters for movies I didn't realize he'd seen like blue when the jungle book like. Because deep man. He's Accidentally I got some bad news for UK. Future lying. You're Nikki Charlie's ensure. Lucy I'm looking into the future I'm looking at crystal. PODCAST do well. Very valuable collection in figures that you know he'll sell someday up on something absolute way romantic relationships might be somewhere. That's where. You just see Katie to fix airman direction. About that. Is Why? This movie is like you're Kooky divorced aunt. This movie smokes caprice cigarette ads. Long fingernails. It's wow, it's wild. I found the friends. I. Have My readings but I still have a hard keeping this movie in my head as is a Matt it's movie like it just doesn't click and I remember like. Would just the way it clicked for me is a Meka's movie is when I realized like Oh, it's a looney toon like it's it's Roger Rabbit adjacent that's where I see him the most. That's where because it is crazy that this is essentially an iconic queer film of the nineties directed by Roger. Roger Jesus Robertson. Directed By. Rabbits. Listen to the words coming and directed by Robert Zemeckis who do not want to tell tales out of school but strikes me as an excessively straight purse like. There's nothing wrong with that. But I the guy doesn't really like scream like I've got a queer classic in me when when you're looking at interviews as your dad's friend who tinkers ICEMAN Like maybe some Hawaiian shirts. About his Flamboyant is he's GonNa. Get. Katie you were talking about. Your sons and your setup, your home before according to Meka's feels like a suburban dad who has a train table does he? Know. By. Like Welfare on the lego movie, but with a train. Yeah. We're just intricately like every single tree all the little shops if he feels like he has a deal juice town mall. Now, the question for in like this might be what we get into the actual context. Do we credit the screenplay for all of the likelier classics Sensibility? Screenplay, by let me check snows. David. Working. and Martin Donovan, who is a little more of a? You know he's he's probably where that's coming from. Originally have does the zemeckis rewrite? into it but for me, it's like I remember in high school when I started really becoming obsessed with like viewing things as part of careers keel a video pop throughout had their movies organized by director and I remember seeing death becomes her on the the Mecca Shelf. was. This put here accidentally. Hadn't heard of it. I feel like in two thousand and two or whatever I saw the the sort of. Derided. Maybe not. And we were talking right before recording movies that like get on top of Star on Netflix, which are sort of like the be air parents to movies that we get on up star on TBS TNT or comedy central and I like this was not a movie that was in that regular cable TV rotation even feels like that kind of movie. So sought on the shelf and I was like was this quote here accidentally in that I looked at the back and I was like, are there Different directors named Robert. Zemeckis is this a different? Zimmer. Is. Everything. About is just feels like Oh this is. Barry Sonnenfeld directing paramount production of Paul. Rudnick script when you look at the front of the box, and if someone had you guess what it is you're like Scott Ruby produce this Rudnik this. And and Sonnenfeld Directive. feels. Like. lauded. Fuel rain. It's medicine otherwise pretty much all the above the line team that went onto Jurassic Park the next year like it's. Same DP. Has credited a lot of the breakthroughs that they did on this movie has no hearing them. The drastic is the same production designer gets all the say people go over drastic with Spielberg plus John what. Are Jamaica since Spielberg Still Bros at this point. For. Sure I mean was wins Meka's as we briefly talked about in the next episode wins America's wins for forrest GUMP, which is two years from now you know from this movie. Spielberg presents the Director Award. Griff I re watched it and he says he opens the envelope and he says Alex Your Dad just won an Academy Award Speaking Robertson Zemeckis his son. That is true like this guy's my pow I'm on I mean sturm strippers they serve. A sequel to Mac Spielberg, the director Jaws Nineteen, the future to. Out Messages, we send a Zemeckis takes the stage in is like the first person I wanNA thank is Steven Spielberg thank you for believing? Begins Him thinking so they are very much still bonded at the hip I think. It's also I mean it's fascinating like Dean? Cundy who was such such a big. For such a long while was real huge I. Look he he does like a B. movies carpenter hind like legitimizes ham and then there's the Zemeckis like romancing the stone back to the future who framed Roger. Rabbit. Feature. To in three you know with like big trouble in little China Inbetween roadhouse. And then after that, the over just pulls him for like two movies. He pulls it just did hook. Right. And draft that's what? I. Mean. Yes. This movie in between that, he stays in the ambulance own. He does like Winstons. Casper. PA Thirteen is like his last great work. I mean. And Trap he did shoot me your. Holiday. Excuse. Me Crippen Dwarfs tribe. Grip indoors tribe is the is low key the most bananas film released by a major studio in the history of of the nineties at least. You know the premise. Products. Do I missed the first movie. I Want I've seen it. I've seen it. I started theater. Fantastic beasts. Urban Dork. Indoor. Strive is the third movie. Crippen dorks. In crime serving. It's a movie about. An anthropologist played by Richard Dreyfuss who has failed to find a lost tribe in some you know he's journeyed into new, Guinea or whatever he'd stead just makes up a tribe and like shoots a fake documentary with his family playing tribe members. And like is like Oh and they do this and they do that any become super famous because of it and like. So it's one of those like comedies where there's a lie that has to be revealed in the Third Act. It's the worst it's. made it. To, keep creating new mythology and find a new video of this tribe wicker. His kids suburban backyard and we must see these are his white. His white kid is can't. Feathers. Falls in love with Jenna Elephant who he is like twenty five years older than like it's like a small distance in age. This movie I think like every the posters canceled DB's canceled, for hosting the Post. Over Yeah, you have to watch him doors tribe using a VPN otherwise. Down here. If. I watch if I rented it from like a video store and then like I was nominated to be Secretary of defense like the senators would be like we looked at your blockbuster history crippen Dorf striving to be like I advice counsel I will not answer the question. Is it on dizzy plus? Yes the Disney negative zone. The Disney. Vault. The Disney to. Chris and. David that was called dateline to catch up. Blockbuster, the only problem was no one ever did it. That was the only ash actually ran into the booth Hired back to be the employees as he was there with a stack of notes ready to go more you planning on doing tonight. And they all come into cluber. Kay Yes sure. Take it. I guess, he also shot the how you know he became. A Nancy Meyers person because he shot home again, he shot her daughter's movie. Today's. Last major movie. He shot his home again is now a major movies. I mean. Can I can I list the phones before the game? Landless. Jama the green bar graphs. He abloh walking with the enemy crazy kind of love and then before that, what I would say is his last major film is Jack and Jill? Casinos someone had to capture about. Your heat shock Dunka Chino's so you know. We send. Dutch big deal. He kind of defined the next three years blockbuster cinema with his aesthetics. and. Much like Vilmos. Zygmunt. Like ended his career shooting episodes of the Mindy Project it's very odd how he went from being like big big bigger, and then he sort of gets ghetto into like, oh, now you hire him. If you WanNa do a movie where you have to combine live action animation like he becomes the specialist. He Garfield and Looney tunes back in Action Nancy. Meyers. Still hiring him to like Ron. Palms and then he just sort of like falls off a cliff. He did a Scooby Doo TV movie did Camp Rock the Disney channel original movie. Very. Odd and he only directed one film ever the direct video on we shrunk ourselves. That's right which I have seen when they shrink themselves. That's the third one, right That's post. Blew up the Kim. Phone's ringing I'm answering the phone Click Hello David David listen answer the phone with a little more enthusiasm. Okay. It might be someone really exciting. WHO's GonNa be give our podcast a jolt of energy. So don't be so blase and low energy and answering the phone. Okay. Who's this on the phone? Hello. Hello WHO's this way to on? Its Bruce Willis you're back are one million, dollar a day. Add read partner. At right that's. GonNa Knock I saw. My bumps bruce hit me. What's the ad read for? Your changing your name, you've been known as Bruce for the first. Sixty odd years. Five years? Damning Bruce Willis. So you're spilling. That be are you U. S. H.? Is there an over the first you? Oh. My Gosh. You're naming yourself after our friends at Bruce the tooth. Mechanical toothbrush. Company. Pale A. Telling I tell passionate about that product and I WANNA play. Of Curse please go right ahead. Daughter. And that's I. Think about how many times a project. That at this point but I've never met replicate that pressure on the depth of feeling for at that coal at home. I? Bruce Bruce. Onion have been hijacked the ad read from me here. Just reading the copy verbatim which I understand look you look at a script and you memorize. Hollywood movie star and. Added on Iran. happened. Okay, but I just WanNa to say you can't just read the copy. It's crazy crazy to fresh. It's. Got All these different brush modes it like. Your teeth, you can't do with your own. I mean Griff, you've got one too right. Yeah I, I, love it I think it's great I ca. Okay I see what now you're gonNA use. Talking points because you want to still make it seem like you're worth the million dollars we pay you per ad read. Like talk about the pack. Pro. Is Wild I mean as a massive boxes, heavy duty it feels like you're purchasing I. I don't even know what to apply it to it's like a massive appliance. Yeah. It's a big box. What would you apply it to I? Mean it's like a lamp or something it's just a big boy. Yes. The size of my arm it's the size of my arm, but it's all power I mean like you can do these more gentle modes, but it cleans your teeth at thirty one thousand movements a minute manual toothbrushes type at three hundred. Okay like. It's Premiere Sonic Wave Technology. It doesn't have a big markup like some of these big electric toothbrushes and each just A. To the whole experience a lot more fun. ally. That power Pop on. With an ad let me ask for now. Okay well Bruce. Can you just give me a call to action because I do feel like you WanNa Lynn Limiting Bruso I'm sorry Bruce. All right. That's. Really. Bad Atari, I have happened. By, Promo Code Tech at broach dot try night day it's risk-free and your warranty days. That's a lot. Of People at. Our. At. Our Hat. He Punch this man that was fucked up. I was always mad. Ma'am so fucked up I hope that. Dude get locked the hell up and then shrunk into a mini jail. Important to a bowl of cheerios then eaten by his. By Rick Brain Cramp. SEATTLE. The wildest shit was that the news reports were like Oh. Rick. Moranis was attacked and the photo they use of him is from like the eighties because like no one even thinks what he looks like now he was. Griffin Griffin I'm aware that he was an amid mobile commercial I didn't want to talk about it. Wasn't like a thing I wanted to revisit in my memory palace, but it's with not Ryan Reynolds correct. He's like there's Yes yes. Exactly. I WANNA get your opinion on this because I was. About this David and I were talking about this with some friends. The other day I feel very strongly about us. What is this fucking trend of all movie stars and celebrities also at a certain tier when you become like an a lister suddenly feeling like you also need to be venture capitalist Widens Ryan Reynolds own mid. Mobile Ryan Reynolds you're a movie star coolest fucking job that anyone could ever have make movies don't forget by a cell phone company and a majority share of a soccer team in a gin company. Shit. Claim made like a literal billion dollars selling this company and they're like, okay. But you know one when clearly did it was cool you're not George. Clooney. It's like a Jack Kennedy Line. Is served with George Clooney. Action Cooker cut your doesn't have to work because he invested money in like twitter whatever. That's fine. Cook Drug Shark Tank Why is he shares? Start. Yeah, he's reading. University low. Well, if you want to quietly invest in like beats by Dre or whatever I just quietly make one hundred, million dollars and then like one day there's like a news article it's like Oh he did you know that like fucking crippen dwarf like hundred billion dollars I'm like that's crazy but if you're going to start to build your brand around it, you're GonNa do instagram ads if you're gonNA fucking super bowl commercials about how you own a bank like I'm Outta here. Your poll bucking regular Ns out of retirement and ran to look at the camera and go. Hi. Owner of mid mobile. Dead. Bad Students. I think he's your famous. You were told that you are valuable and you are brand that you like market yourself and like the people want to be a part of you and you believe it and then you buy some shit and I mean many of them go bankrupt doing that stuff. So you can root for that Ryan. Reynolds. It's really he's an he's deadpool like he has like an iconic thing, the screen, and now he's trying to get his own cuss Amigos at the same time. Yeah and it also feels like his whole brand is like I'm Ryan grants I'm making fun of the stuff I do like the green. Guide trailers, right. The free guide trailers have like Deadpool intertidal where it's like from the studio that brought you and then see movies. Every Ryan Reynolds movie advertised Deadpool was the head of the marketing? What Look us in the eyes and be like I'm Ryan Reynolds this my. Goal. Is, not enough. He's he because he it's because he knows he knows he's not a movie. Now, a word from our sponsor. Losers it's me Brian Reynolds you want to save money on your fucking phone bill. No too bad I. don't even know I see. I can't do it. You know that's his deadpool magic. Irreverent like he can. So maybe I should take it back if I well, the real trick is he knows he's being referenced. We should clarify it's not that any of Ryan Reynolds companies are sponsoring this episode Ryan Reynolds himself has bought three ads. He wants to promote him that he's cool and. Man Maybe I should buy some cuss. Amigos cuss Amigo says, classy. Bottles are and none of us have. I. I tried to rounds Janet it's stocks ass. Bad. Deploy Griffin. It's. Gene. Oh, what the fuck ev? Asian American. Aviator are you met? Any married on a plantation I'm not forgetting about. All of IT I. Love Jen. It's my spirit of choice and I was at a bar and I ordered my usual barstool existed fifteen years ago Ginger. Ale. As you know as my go-to drank you do you do love Jay Sessions? What kind of GIN would you like and it was this? FUCKING Spun Con Instagram. Culture Bullshit in effect I looked I saw aviation Jan on the shell. When isn't the Ryan Reynolds bought why not try it and it tastes like fucking cat piss Often will say, whatever's cheapest like I often wonder my mixture of saying whatever's cheapest and this was worse than Welsh. anyways, and now I mean no fucking around where I don't WanNa. Do any bits anymore and now we're from our sponsors aviation American GIN. STARTS WITH THE RASPBERRY Pi At jerk. State cabinet by. Sending saw this movie recently for the first, you only have seen it in court for the first. Yeah. Yeah. I was we had some friends who stay with us for a few weeks as they were between houses, which is a great way in quarantine if you have a space work because then you don't feel so locked in your house just with the people already live with. And what they've been doing like weekly nineties, movies nights in quarantine, which is great ideas we wash it becomes her which like. I haven't seen back to future million times. All three of 'em I'd seen forrest Gump, a million times like in its They were both suchlike factors of being a kid in the nineties in this movie like you're saying Griffin just kind of like slipped by me like I wasn't old enough for it when it came out and I didn't have like I don't know who are the movie nerd friends who would like when as a teenager you gotTa Watch this I think that was happening for, but it just wasn't. In my sphere I had heard people like coming back to it and like when it had its anniversary now maybe it's twenty fifth anniversary anyway edited piece about like how it becoming clear and I somehow never seen it and then it shows up and you're like I can't believe this movie existed in Nineteen, ninety two or ever in some way it's like this miracle that gets dispatched you. Hbo Max now so it's right there for you. especially as like you know all three of us, big. Oscar. Hurts when you're like movie like Slam Dunk One best visual effects, it was like a cakewalk of like well, obviously, that's the visual effects showcase of ear no other nominations. I can't reconcile with this movie is is feels so bizarre that this exists as a Bruce Willis comedy flanked by Meryl and Goldie Hawn. That that is mostly visual effects showcase at the movies. MEKA's makes in-between the back to the future trilogy enforced out. I mean, if you're looking for deliberate pallet cleanser between like a huge trilogy that takes up like five years, seven years of your life and in forest gump like you get worse thinness very nice change pace. But. It's the other super thing. About the film is that like a on its face it seems like, yes, let's make a small movie. I. Just did a big big trilogy that got increasingly more and more complex. I did Roger Rabbit, which is like the most insane visual Effects Mufi. Ever made. On time why don't make like a smaller comedy Gif, act my roots, and instead he finds the script written by sort of like a journeyman writer mostly had sitcom credits and he's like, oh This premise could be turned into a big visual Effects Extravaganza look all the sort like looney tunes one upmanship distortion of their bodies ship was all add advise Amac is then brought on David cap to like rewrite it. For visuals. Do you want? Well, it's my experience that this movie as a kid was that it was a what even though you're as you say. As much of a player. It was for some reason always on the British TV channel Sky one at least for a while. And I lived in Britain where we Lived in Britain. I was a kid. Major night we haven't talked about in wild, but it's true. Come. It's come up before several times. And you guys sometimes pretend not to know it. But I did live to Redo the. Still working through this. Feel like I would remember if I did a bit about getting things that I already. Eighteen. Remember that you forgot, right? Yes. Don't worry. This. One, I don't know if you remember this Griffin had this experience at all but they would play the commercial for this movie all the time, and it would emphasize that in it barrel streep's had gets turned all the way around and. Goldie Hawn has big shock hole in her chest, right? Would just showed the ad and I'd be like that looks like the most disturbing movie ever made like I would just watch in horror I might how is that allowed to exist and you know what really creeped me out was the Blue Eyes. Like on top of the body horror stolen just how creepy they look. Like and so I was really scared of this movie like until I was. Basically, a grownup like I thought, this movie was that that was just a teaser for how fucking demented this movie is now. Is demented but the body, her obviously those are the those are the big. You know bits of body are like here I must have thought. Wilder and wilder in that front. So it was very scary movie at the center of the. A. Yeah. That's the reas Bam poster right? Right. When that Shit starts, I'd seen this movie once before I probable watched it like streaming on Netflix six seven or eight years ago, and when they finally start the one upsmanship shotgun through the Chasse, the twisting of the head I went. Oh. So bright is this just the remaining four or five minutes of the movie is just tit for tat spy-versus-spy escalating attacks I. Forgot that sort like that's the big centerpiece of the movie is all the big money shots that are then put on the poster that were used in the marketing, and then there's sort of a final day on chase. Yes it's. Clean Breath. No. It is interesting also like. You have as your virtual Akron David. The image is now the color for all the home video releases were. Bruce Willis looking terrified, holding a candelabra through the whole in Goldie and. has his other arm around Merrill whose head is twisted backward weirdly they flipped their dresses. Goldies. Has the raindrops? Yeah Right. It's an one. Thing I don't know why that image is like the famous sort of promotional image from the movie, but I was thinking into it that was pretty much the overseas poster and then was used for all home video. The US posters is the potion, right? It's it's the purple potion and Isabella Rossellini chest and it just says in one small bottle, the Fountain of Youth, the secret of Charl Life, the power of an ancient motion sometimes, it works sometimes, it doesn't. Streep Willis Honda become sir a very odd way to sell this movie. But. The other way is also an odd way to sell it, which is just like this is really gross things happened the bodies. If if you're looking for like the depth of the movie though and I think. That's definitely at least like why it's become iconic for people and for women as it goes along it is about something in a way that lay guess Roger Rabbit is as well but like and women tennis in depth. But like what hits on about like women in aging and Hollywood specifically is real and like is the engine that drives the whole thing and it sells the looney tunes silliness and like the kind of body horror that's like under the surface you can when they stop doing all the effects stuff. Absolutely I know the original screenwriter forgetting his name normal. The actor Not. He's not. MISSING PRETENDED NOT MR FROM TENANT ESTHER TAP He I I think kind of disowned because he was like I wanted to make a much sadder SORTA SAPPHIRE MEKA's hands on it and they came all about the possibility of the special effects and the promotional campaign became. So forward with the violence in the body stuff that I felt like he got away from it but I, do think it is the weird combination of all those elements like if you look at this. Page has an entire sub-section pretty much just about this movie's legacy on Paul's drag race. And it has asked Rupaul drag race how many different drag will mention it as inspiration ball dressing up on it. There was entire challenge based around they didn't episodes off of it and I do think something like. It. It's weird. He the sadness of the script and the sort of light pointed accuracy of what its tax rising combined with Zuma casinos are. Gee Whiz looney tunes sensibilities ended up accidentally making this very cam movie you know that the Space. Produced by these people? Right it's a weird combination of tests. Tastes is Inca something different. Inner. So few movies that fall into that kind of like camp ninety s or like a classic from that era that like are this expensive is this linger expensive mainstream blockbusters. which comes at a couple of years later, this is not the same scale as this and it's it's about like street people like women fighting over a man to some degree. But like the way that they stopped fighting over him team up is kind of subversive way like there's not a lot of movies that would follow them in that direction and it's just like. It's can't be the college, Their Hill and mad from the very beginning and where amazing dresses like fight with fireplace pokers like it's like a dynasty episode eat is also from this crucial window in streep's career post her first serious decade you know Silkwood Sophie's Choice Iron Weed Out of Africa. Outcry. The dark casually takes down to. ALLISTER's. Munches down to Oscars appears in four different best picture winners, right. is in a bunch of canonical. Mass. Creamery over. It's three. Yeah Yeah. And then. It's basically like she devil postcards from the edge defending your life death becomes her right one. Those are four years in a row and postcards from the edge is the one that's the closest to being a drama, and even that is a comedy drama. And they're they're four funny movies. They're all good. I would say. Right. Yes she devils probably the most. Controversial but the other three are really good. I. Think. Has has the worst rep rate of. The reputation I thought, it was a calamity I was like I might like this but I'll understand why other people hate it, and then I watched it and I was like this is just good I don't understand why this was. So reviled in it's time but I do think it has something to do with. And I throw it out there. I think mayor role was going through a little bit of Anne hathaway or people started to resume don't try and impress us. Yeah. Come on. You're not. You're not funny to. It was like the Classic Mural Asian? Right which is. When you see this movie, it's insane this movie. Right and of course, it's later insane when she sorta like does. Product. Well, let me see this. Older comedy. Crawl. Product is in this performance and you look at this you're like. That movie like treated as a surprise. Much of it in this, she's really good in this in a way where she's not trying to be funny I feel like not like in a desperate feel her being like. Straining for laughs like she's she, we'll. We'll talk. Isn't it interesting that it's like that's her little comedy pocket and. Death. Becomes her being the final one where she's like, alright fine. You guys want serious ship for me bridges the Madison. County Marvin's room like one true thing music heart. I'm back to that. Okay and then adaptation feel like is what finally unlocks her. What Merrill why don't you just have fun? Why don't you do abundant? Absolute. But like she just. Thoenes. River wild is the movie she does right after this I love the river wild, but she was again sort of slammed for. String from her lane where it's like an action movie Merrill Really I, Love that movie. It's a great movie. She's great. Greatest. He was. He was so prodigious. Gates. So hot he dominated so hard and then I do think that. People were waiting to find the things he couldn't do and you read all those reviews and they do Katie as said have this tone of like. Well, we founded here's the one thing Merrill can't do it's. Not, funny tries to. They all say bad and it's interesting that of those four movies you're listing the only one that was like really successful financially was this one a postcard from the edge is the only one that gets awards. Smithson mucinous govt, right. But every treats it as like why are you doing this comedy thing Merrill move on get back. Crying different accents do accents. And all these comedies like. Defending your life is different but. com Sir, she devil, and post from the edge. I think all klay on this perception of her being too perfect like they're all kind of candy performances where she's playing these berries. Softens Ball. Image of SAS sort of divas and people were so fucking against them, and then she comes back and does this again fifteen years later and people were like finally what took you so long narrow? Fee finally becomes a box office star like a consistent box office for the first time career doing straight comedies for like. And kind of becomes. Like an iconic like. Queen type you know what I mean versus like a serious actress or trying to get older to do that though like to get older. and. How honestly how old is she in this movie? Like it's not like she hasn't been fucking working her fourteen here's look. Goldie is really almost fifty, which is Goldie is basically. Goldie. Is there with this movie gold already and Iconic Queen that we love you know what I mean like when she's in this movie this. Audit. Yeah Right. Views are like Goldie just fucking runs circles like homerun from Goldie unsurprising, right? Yeah. Of course like she's this any day. Will list I mean we gotta talk about him in a second, but I just want to. What. You're talking about will's Yes. Yes. You were talking about. Griffin in terms of billing I, just have to bring it up. The movie begins with a hammer to the face. It's like to me. It's just like I gasp at billing type card like this. You know a film that begins with the three stars splitting a card. All in one not like being build one after the other they somehow negotiate that it was going to be the three of them now, as you probably would know Griffin. Maybe notice this, the movie starts, with Goldie Hawn Bruce Willis Meryl Streep that's the billing. Yes the poster reverse. The poster is Meryl Streep Bruce Willis Goldie Hawn Bruce's always in the middle as he should be because he's sort of. BEING WARD OVER A. I. Love. Whatever fucking insane three day. Divorce tight lawyer negotiation in Hollywood with the amount of sandwiches there were ordered the assistance who had to like abandoned their families. So they can with like, okay you know what Goldie can be top on the movie. Poster. Okay like that. They finally agreed to that. I am going to blow your mind one step further, Dave. Okay please please. You forgot to mention that. Way They formatted Merrill in Goldie are on the line and Bruce is center but dropped down only on the poster to be clear in the movie. There's three three interrupt but yes yes, that is true. I walked trailer for this movie her reason I will come back around to a little bit. He want to what the billing is on the trailer as announced donkey. It's Don't tell me Willis verse. Bilas I old. I think it's Bursa, Willis Meryl Streep. A I'm watching it right now. And Goldie Hawn they give her an end. This is going to be. Gone it's Merrill Bruce but you're right. It's end Goldie Hawn. Awesome I'm glad I'm glad we decided filling all of our listeners were at the edge of their seats. Those, just here, Rosalie still. Wrestling you just can't muscle into that because even though she pretty big at that point you're. A weird sight of I mean we gotta talk about his opening number where like you see like emeril strutting down the stairs this show, and then the Isabella Rossellini his name shows it'd be like Oh we're still doing that in the middle of this. Amazing musical number that kicks up the whole thing that like no one ever talks about because it's all the special exit come after. But like Holy Shit Alan Serie do not do that. It must be I would assume. sating. This is thing I'm so glad we're talking about. Phenomenal and I. Know this feels worth at little sidebar on. Blockbuster directors who seemingly have the ITCH. DIRECTA musical number won't commit to doing the full musical. Thank of right like this is a great example of that. You also have like little sort of semi musical numbers and Roger. Rabbit. But this is doing like a big old fashioned Broadway style musical number but also the terrible which is great. Yes. It's like noises off. It's like also. Spielberg, opening temple of doom only finally finally, making good on now with west side story. But that's a similar like here's my big Indiana Jones sequel cold open in fucking anything goes in China right. Vitamin Three Spiderman three remembers the fucking Dark spider-man Disco Number People Forget. The Mary Jane is storing a musical in that in their to extended sequences walking do Broadway productions. Weird. Reading someone's view of Spiderman three. Pieces Craig. Sam Remy make a musical it's thirty doesn't want to be doing another spiderman. Can't stop putting dance numbers fucking and. I like dramatic descend. Home. Stairs Yeah The whole thing where everyone's like this is such a piece of Shit and I. Don't know. There's bill. Address on and then. Near the end at your like. It's GonNa. Maryland Huffing on stage of people walking out the camera fans back. It's a gorgeous perfect. It's gorgeous. It's perfect and also get like you say. You know Maryland do a lot of shit you know like. This is some funny dumb shit like she's kicking off the movie with it. and. We'll get there again twenty years later. I mean. But the thing about Mama Mia. which I guess we again. We're not gonNA. We here we go. Again, we might just have to do that one but I can't who the fuck directive me what's. The. He did the. Floyd. issue. Which is my least favorite movie of all time. Movie this year, I forgot about that. Yet. Yeah it was a sundance though I remember. People were at least. That they didn't hate it was if it was fine, right I don't know but Mama Mia is Merrill being like guys look look I'm an. Increase I'm singing an Abba Song like just we're going to be having fun like this is going to be so you very much her being like just everyone. Relax I know minute. And this is her being like is this is GonNa be wild. Dial up like this is this is stupid. Which? Before we get to the directors wouldn't make musicals Alan Alan Silvestri altered the music for captain. America, the first adventure, which has a great musical number in the middle of great little musical number number I know is by Allah make it. Look. Good You. Spanning man I mean as far as I believe. Zemeckis is working I think actually I can't speak to the witches I. Don't know what's which is but I believe Mexicans Working Pinocchio Alan. Silvestri will be working on. Pinocchio. Local. I don't off the movie I. Don't know that live action version will have songs but I. I mean, I have to assume it. was important. So who knows? You know to the Go ahead. What were you gonNa say make make your the Milan wasn't no offense the songs in Moulin which I enjoy but like you know Pinocchio got some? It's got some big honking numbers got no strings when you wish upon like Caesar. Joe's. Allen. Number that hawks? Hold your horses take a man out of you yet? The I think. What David our both hearing when along was in development? was like Oh, this is the big task to see that Disney do a remake that is not that Devoted to the Disney felt that is able to take a new of approach to it and obviously other factors at play Pantano in stock, but it does feel like. Bad experiment is GonNa Scare Disney back into do the remake where you do all the songs and everything is similar. You wasn't Dumbo dot to though like it was like A. Departure. Didn't do that well either. Dumbo. Bombo much like Pinocchio was made by veteran director who probably can kind of do a little more what he wants. I assume MEKA's we'll have some leeway because he's rabbits AMAC as he gets you Tom Hanks? Like but I don't know, I don't know. David yes. Griffin I feel like shoes. have. Lost a lot of currency here. Yeah. People not really into shoes right now not a Lotta outside time or at least less. Right, don't really need them in the house. I'm not really a shoes in the House Guy I don't know about you. Know. Not, really. Maybe trust slip on a pair when I'm podcasting. So I feel like this is a real job. Remind myself that it's a job. But but I will say for me. This pandemic has really really upped appreciation of socks. I don't know about you but you know you wanNA feel like you're getting out of bed and doing something you know Griffin I love my socks. So Much I. Mean I'm a big soccer fan in general but I don't know about you agree guess I'm. bombecks, friends of the show. Bombay's they've been answering us for a while. 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We start favorite emeril comedic moment the entire film, which is her practicing her reactions to Goldie Hawn walking in before she lets her it's an open, the doors that is. So exquisite. And Goose off the Bat. WHO'S Who's playing the assistant? I think in Maryland trainer I'm looking around I'm pretty sure that's all. Anyway. Sorry and she was funny anyway going. MEKA's comes from comedy his his early movies were all comedies and this feels like now he's got. The clout, the stage. Budget Star power is director to really make this kind of life. Elegant exorbitant. Ball comedy and just the timing of all of this how much is sort of controlled by the actors? He's got stuck blewett camera movements in which she always has. But especially, like the first ten minutes of this movie hover like ten years it moves so fast at the beginning. I'd be right to cut is very, very funny like the. You know the the I have no interest in that is that this could? Have another seven years later he's just barreling from rue sort of back story table setting at the beginning of the movie and part of what I think makes it or is you have these really really sharp performances you have even were capable of doing stuff that you don't really see in comedy movies today where things are like all based around Improv wrists and a ton of coverage editing together eighteen different angles. So every line as a composite of four different shots, this is like, Oh, you're just watching thirty seconds of Merrill sitting in a chair handsome Liming House he's going to look shock until she finally feels ready. And makes a handwriting Lesser Assistant Open the door and even before that, you get that take the audience leaving the show in Orlando Bruce Willis but this like struck look on his face and he's so funny and Goldie next to him is so funny and they are like nailing every single bit of it in this really complicated shy. Rousseau's ain't. Mummy of that in this movie, which I love, which is like super complicated camera move like following a lot of action a lot of information, and then you land on the final person and they have to deliver perfectly timed Joe and that sort of like. Super complicated like I'm willing to do eighty takes vista a one that works shit. You rarely get to see comedy directors do this You need to have made a blockbuster. You're four be given permission to waste this much money trying to get that one tape. will now it's so easy to imagine current Bruce Willis like putting up with that and really like staying on the set for a long time and like wanting to get it right and like diving into character. So yeah, let's get into this I kept thinking over the course of this movie I cannot. Imagine. The patients, Bruce. Used to have. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Given his reputation which we are losing to as a person who? Helicopters into your Bulgarian action movie like at Ten am and the copter doesn't even turn. It's roses off like he's he's going to do is four lines. He's to get back on the copter. You're going to give him a million dollars gas. Think it's one million dollars per day. He will do eighteen I. Think get them all done in one day. But if it's two locations that you're GONNA have to pay two million dollars. And you're going to have to pay for hotel my friend. Like all this shit. He's so lazy. He just sits find a chair. He's probably not wearing pants. He's like a guy behind a desk at the final scene he lifts going up so they can put that on the poster. We talked about this griffin like I have to assume that's not true when he's in something like motherless Brooklyn nothing he has a big role in that but right like. Brooklyn I think he's great in it but you know what I mean. That's what I'm saying like he's not like okay. Edward going to need five million bucks like he's probably like sure I'll do. I'll do a nice one for you want a while, right? He's still so like his name stones alive overseas wishes by people them to do those directed video right? I would think the same thing but. Like there's the the when the Bruce Willis Roast happened Edward Norton oldest story about he was doing. A play and Bruce Willis in visit backstage had tears in his eyes and his you're the exact actor I wanted to be when I was young I got caught up I became sick on star I become accident star got so distracted with all this other stuff like I'm so I R- you've reinvigorated my passion I WanNa work with you someday someday will work together just let me know anytime I will be there and like in the fifteen years that was always trying to get motherless Brooklyn off the ground it was always listen I'll be there I'll be there but then he's not in it very much you have no wonder The shot although scenes in two days and asked for two million dollars it's not impossible. It's not impossible. It's a good part for him though. It is a good part. It's the part that makes sense for him in the in that movie. Yeah. I mean he I guess he could play the Baldwin role but like like you know I mean like as the old mentor but you are not wrong griffin that you can watch the movie and think like, yeah maybe he wrapped into like maybe three and this is why I think. that. Because of glass like, do you remember how excited we were before glass out we were like Oh, my God. It looks like Bruce's giving a shit again, crews bucket back and then he's third building. We really that's weird that is building still love and watch the movie and for the Middle Fifty minutes each just walk in a room in no one sees him her off the him. He's not bad and said Oh he's good like when he's doing his. Acting like when he's playing the pre yes he's good but I mean. I. Love Ice I do too. But watching glass I did the calculations and I was like, okay, this movie cost twenty, million dollars. self-financed it. You would think that he would throw his out the window in order to re team directors who's been desperate him. Tonic wellness sequel that people have been begging for year to be clear. Maybe he did like to be clear maybe he. Be Clear he did but I watched class and I'm like. This might have been three days to he asked for three million dollars later benefiting because I was paying for its that his role was written down because they couldn't afford more days. That's all I'm saying. I just want to say I want to ask you what you think of Bruce, Willis Katie and we. In general in general but I do want to say that last year he was in a film called ten minutes gone that I think probably holds the Guinness World. Record for the boldest movie of all time because Michael Chiklis and Bruce Willis. Michael Chiklis is in this movie you think they were like we don't need Willis for this. Well, we have Chiklis we've got a stocky bald action guy. Fuck it. Let's get this very day. Come on. They'll ball enough together to be great and looking at coaster third name above the title is a faded headshot of. Ours. Yeah, what if they were like? A Bald Adventures telly Savalas died shit. We can't do it. Triggers Willis. Right are. Mister Clean. delroy Lindo politely declining by email. Yeah. I really appreciated busy. Doing the good fight right. Ten minutes gone. What are your thoughts on breath? I don't have strong feelings general in presently surprised when he's good know often have seen him be bad especially like a lot of his movies as less teen years I like in this plane low status and what I don't really have a grip on like obviously he's diehard going in at this point but never seen bonfire the bandies at or Hudson Hawk and I don't know what that has done for him at this point. Obviously, there are huge famous disasters there two huge box. So he certainly needs a hit and he got really wrapped for those movies even I don't think he's the problem with either. Like at all I actually. Passion project of his or was it somebody? Else's he? wrote the story so he's some problem with an HA. Performances. Fra-. Yeah, you're it's fair point. Katie that like yes diehards only four years ago and also he'd been in like in country which he got good reviews and know for like were not far removed from moonlighting obviously but. Guest. Star at this point one, hundred percent because like last year the last boy Scout, which was a big you know. So But he he's definitely been deemed a bunch coming out of Moonlighting Transitioning into stardom and he's been dinged for non action movies. The music career starting around this time to I mean he's got the weird thing where it's like. You know he's sort of like a struggling actor for awhile than fucking moonlighting chewed breakouts stable was known person. Unknown and suddenly, Bruce? Willis becomes like a love by women and men across America. Right? He's he wants the Russell. He's he also like he's a little older he appeals to older women as well. You know what I mean like he's like a man's man right? You know he's like. Older, you know, Russell Crowe George Clooney like those types guys. She'd just emerged slightly later. You know what's the evidence of his tournament? This Point Planet Hollywood launched October Ninety one like minded. Deal he he's in the player as himself. You know like like the joke is he's you know he's Bruce Willis the movie star right but. INC, Griff, it really is wild. You're looking I'm assume like how many fucking bombs he made. But here's the weirdest thing moonlighting huge breakout right? He's the guy everyone's like this is going to be that rare thing happens sometimes where someone off so hard on TV where they're like movie star right? It's inevitable it's inevitable and very often that. You have like the Taylor hit syndrome where you're like this guy seems like a movie star he should be a movie star pushed to heart out of moonlighting. He does to Blake Edwards comedies that both ball. He does blind date and he does sunset right and so I think people are like. Is Bruce knocking translate it seems like he should be a good comedy lead is he not going to carry over at that point die hard for which he was I believe the highest paid actor of all time even though he was like the seventh choice or whatever. I die hard he was the highest paid actor of all time. Wow Eighty banana story about how fucked up agents and you'll making became Hollywood and the eighty he got five million dollars for it. It may not have been the highest of all time but US essentially paid an a-list salary like Warren Beatty salary for like a movie even never been in a hit movie as seventh choice coming. Off of two comedy lots, they were so worried because when the trailers would play and Bruce Willis faced with come up people in the theater would laugh because they'd like a moonlight and Dine an action movie took three wasn't on the coaster they redid the poster and the main poster then was the one that's just the building and then die her blows up and they're like fuck. Okay Bruce proved US wrong. I guess he is a movie star also, he's like kind of serious movies star then get in countries doing like a dramatic role in supporting art you gotTa look who's talking comedy but it's only voice and it's playing off his reputation now as a Then like die hard to look who's talking to, and then he's like cool I'm ready to go back to comedy and this is this pocket where he's like I proved myself as an action star I have my franchise. Now I, WanNa, go back to big budget comedy and it's Bonfire the. Hudson Hawk spa last boy scout solid hit action movie like comeback, and the becomes are finally gets a comedy hit again, and then after this these like I guess I shouldn't talk with comedy. Because even though this was a hit was not a huge hit and most this, he has the the double bomb of color of night and well, he's barely in north, but he wears a bunny suit in it. Down, and but he died but then he also does pulp fiction that year. So it's like well, all right even though like maybe he's not popping quite as much as the other two leads of it like other three but he's still come on. That's huge. Huge performance that movie nobody's fool great small performance very good in that twelve monkeys. Her love them. He so going. But if it's armegeddon like fuck. You know the rules. Want to go on the record saying I. Think. That's one of my favorite. That's a major ass porch movie. Absolutely? Sterling he had a tough time retaining footing throughout the nineties and then the second half of the ninety s he just sort of like ramped up and it was like hit. Hit like he was doing well when he would have a small flaw, ricky would do like breakfast champions in the story of US Disney's the kid shit like that. But it'd be buffered by like other movies doing well enough in this being regardless. Yeah and the six cents being to gamble pays off so much that it makes me. And he's so fucking good at. Katie your first appearance. Insisting beautiful. Don't have strong Dr The second Bruce. Bowen. breakable is my air performance of his ever Greece. Balls off the cliff I feel like throughout the two thousand he's like really hit and miss, and then by the twenty tens, it's just like a he stop giving a shit. You have that one year where he makes moon rise and looper, and then he goes back to being the laziest actor in his. I know and even before moon rising looper, he's in red, which is not a good great movie are like he's. That's that's a real. He's net. Right, I mean the same year he's in cop-out where it looks like that movie where the helicopter rotors are always going but like. He's a seeing long enough to make Kevin Smith and everybody else onset. Gives. Kevin Smith a Nogi every day. It was his contract. You hear these stories that are simultaneously. He's so lazy. Also he terrorizes. Wasington he's also committed enough to making people know that he dislikes them and it's just. Like the Bruce Willis who seemingly like goes up to the island to shoot. Memorize Kingdom for scale and deal. Good. Tinkering. House is sitting on set were keeps on going sorry I need to adjust the picture frame. Bit. This. What what happened like where where's the switch flipped where he just comes Kim healing cable ever giving a shit. Like is it one of those things where he? Owes a lot of money to me more like I, generally want everybody likes to some debt like he's like is. He wouldn't be find to Bulgaria all the time. Like is he just is it planet Hollywood? Like does he is the mob chasing him we get the manage in brand to make him a billion dollars? Question, but it also, it's like even Nicholas Cage. Financial troubles the hang of how many Bulgarian action movies can I make myself out of this whole has now started going like great. I can relax I'm still gonNA make a bunch of Shitty red box don't exist, but also I'll make Mandy. Also, I'll do like Joe and Bruce just hasn't really done anything. You could imagine him caring about in the least outside of motherless right a glass, a glass. Glass. I it's in it's in a while it's basically before that it's it's fucking. Moon risking them that year it's looper. I don't know what it is. All I know is. I do love him and anytime I see a movie like deadpool which I've seen before. But like. I just see him being a goof. Giving US shit like being physical making faces like. I just love to see it like it makes me happy I. Wish He'd do it more and like he's he's An asshole I mean or whatever he's. An asshole but he Seems like a difficult person many ways. I've never met the man, but he also seems like kind of immensely kind of that Russell Crowe Energy again right we like this guy's probably the worst if he's mad at you but like also. Take drunk with him all night. Friends you know he would pop in on like Letterman and Shit and you be you know clearly it's like, oh, he's just doing this because he thinks it's funny like so. I don't know man. Letterman like such. Always funny. Funny on SNL Whatever has a sense of humor about himself but only sometimes right like between two ferns great. Rainsville episodes he so good. This is such a telling performance like the BEAVER guy coming off to die hards and be like I WanNa make a movie that's about like I'm very much the third right I'm a limp Dick Fuck and cook any. kind of about the disguise. Right like the biggest joke in poverty is he's the die fighting over. Exactly, the first half of the movie they're fighting over him, but then they're like, oh Forget it. Forget. To be our tool for the rest of our allies. For him then at the end like a, he should stick around because we need a slave. Right he looks good though okay. He does looks come on. He looks like the Nerdy version Bruce Willis which is still looking Bruce will love Bruce has done so much for men with thinning hair that's all I'm say is an active balding man we'll. Yes. I. Should go as a be him for Halloween. Ben. Only. Porn rimmed glasses a Cardigan and did it your. Comes, her some aspirin. Drink. It is funny. Katie as you said, this movie is. Creating the nerdy version of Bruce will it's like, how nerdy can we possibly make very handsome veer all movie star. Look and that look is now essentially the the absolute best case scenario mood board for most freelance film writers. Like his whole look. Hatefully, like sorta combs thinning hair the mustache, the Redford Oblast, he puts on the toxin you're like ooh. That's what like everyone thinks any luckily. Swipe right on hinge you're like sure. The pivotal scene in this movie involves Meryl Streep Screaming Flaccid at him and it's she's perfect. My. Own. And he is doing this like cooped up rage thing but not like the cool Guy John Maclean he's going to figure it out and he's like so impotent and incapable. He's so good at it. One of the best gags in the movie is him. He's going to rescue her before she falls down the stairs and then she says one last thing and he's like going like they always gets me. But the weird thing about him is. On its face you think you could imagine what kind of performances would be of like Oh, this is like the raw playing nerd like it's like a joke is on as than action movie is playing like this late limp. Dick. Like is sort of loser who's being tug of war between two more compelling movie star actresses and instead it's like he seems to be relishing the opportunity to play like a sketch comedy character like there's no sort of winky like look at me I'm like. Subverting my movie star Persona Bullshit Year. This is him going hall on Filet Making Funny Faces. Yeah. He has my favorite joke liberating in the whole movie where they've taken Meryl. Streep's at the hospital in he realizes season the more and you just like in the morning show. He's still terrified of her. Delivery any nail. Seem, is so funny. We've got to shout out Sydney Pollack one of the great like one scene performers in so many moments. My thing. Is. I don't know if you saw this, but he was the runner up at the Los Angeles Film Critics Association awards that year for best supporting actor for that for this death becomes her husbands and wives and the player they but like our. Husbands and wives he's like one of he's. He's playing rail wheel character in that like they were like you you know what? Let's fuck enfold in the player and his own credited role death becomes her into our little shoutout. So funny performance he's. Doing funny and most of this scene is a wonder like it's crazy. There are a couple times I'll cut your reaction shot the large majority of his singing in August is like hammer movements him in real time and he's booking comic timing is for it is perfect there. So many beats he does I mean what's the thing well when he checks her with a stethoscope Doesn't hear anything and he runs the BAFFLES throws it out another step. And then taking the flask of Bristol. I always think about I remember seeing Thumb Sidney? Colic. Interview where he talks about like being actor being drama Swale with like all these like Honky guys and realizing like, Oh, I'm never going to be a movie star I'm GonNa be stuck playing as he put it the soda jerk or the friend of the guy who gets the girl, and that's when he decided I should be director instead because I'm never going to have the kind of acting career. I wanted that he weirdly went into directing out of vanity by realizing he was never going to be a leading man and I will just any arisen adder which was burying. Hershey Eerie thing for him. That's my dream career. Mike is even. Clayton I. Don't shore supporting performances are everything I. WanNA agents. That's the range of light. The worn out died frankie give you advice the scary guy who you're not sure whether or not. He's going to kill you so good is the spirit. You know what occurred to me, and this feels like it's going to tarnish somehow. L. For Jon favreau plays the doctor who examining fairly that. This inspired him do that when like? Yeah. This is the director to come in and I'm with the lead actor trying that's left on camera. Every actor director who also has an acting background should play Dr One of their movies. Yeah. I mean, it's not his movie harrow braces. So bit the doctor in that one scene of busy he's a healthy but. Wait to guest. He's he's when he's in knocked up for that one scene. He's another one I mean obviously he's an actor. He's crazy visiting pollock was entity and then has no acting credits for ten years until this like I don't know what that was what changes first acting credit in forever he was like out in. Dustin Hoffman asked him to play the agent has Dustin Hoffman. In his fucking method ultra was like Ooh I need the agents someone actually intimidated by The story that he begged him to do it because he was like, are I WANNA be scared? No sees he's so fucking good touchy. Right then doesn't act together. Awesome. Thank you a lot of value that has these days. and. Then lie with the. Sorry could. Nothing better than a bed. Housley, why what's up? David. Yes. I have a massive question for you. Okay. Go ahead and all an overwhelmingly large question too big one. What does twenty twenty mean for Small Businesses You have to do more with less. Yeah I mean suddenly every single higher, right it's critical yes. Yes. Absolutely. Resources to find the right people the. Problems, right? Yes. 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It's one of those things where I'm always like, Oh, I, should I should watch it just to kind of check the box and then I'm always like Jesus it's like three hours long. What's it even about and they're like well, and I'm like you don't even. CARE. You don't WanNa hear about European lady in Africa. CARE. A lot more to talk about, but I just remembered the big. Weird operation in the last ten years of Bruce Willis. We need to just a dollar Ed Bruce Willis did misery on Broadway with cement. Yes although I believe it was reliably reported that production was I mean the the mood the show itself did not get great reviews but I think the production was a nightmare. would be like I WANNA do this right he was. In half. Yeah. She was like it was a mass. It wasn't theater. It was just like we did very well because he was a movie star people seem in person but no one was really there for any reason immaterial doesn't really translate while the stage play in the first place when everything about its strength. But then you're like he did full run, it must have been a nightmare to get the helicopter into the. Kit Imagine the pay him a million dollars. which you guys we not know Broadway economics but that is that is a lot. I. was paid six based on what you're saying about it being reported because it's got so many. Apparently they banned drinks with ice in them because it made too much noise and I'm assuming half is not the one who is demanding that. There's a page six thing because you have enough. But there was the rumor was and this was reported in six is that he had an earpiece that was feeding him lines. On stage like Laurie Metcalf would say align. Pause, he would say that it was noticeable that he was being fed lines. Now, this was like wait it was in previews and the article even says like scripts changing a lot. He's really nervous about it like you know. There may have been a reason for it, but that's not the buzz you want going on. Broadway is heeds Nori Metcalf to credit card a Tony nomination she's. She's a pro. Like I feel the Hillary Clinton play was the first Tony Nomination. She didn't get in a year. He was eligible it's unreasonable. It'd be decade. Moshi. She got a Tony. Nomination for that. Wow she she's got she's got four in a row. That's crazy. That's hard. It's just hard to do that many fucking plays and didn't her who's favorite junior wolf like not open. nope. In it's opening night was like the night Tom Hanks. Kaku. Tom Hanks ruin it for everybody. that was yeah. That was with I, forget who that was going Rupert Everett that's right. That's right. Anyway. Hostile. For second shot were the nuns are floating down the hallway for no goddamn reason and. I don't understand it or whites in there. So, much visual humor in this movie. Like delightful, a background detail, fabrio the use of Fabio. Holy Real you know it's hard. You gotta go by the year to know if it's just fabio or if it's a fabio type. When it still just Fabio wow. You know if you've got a muscled European with long hair like it might if it's the early nineties later, it might just be Fabio. Yeah. Bob Us. It's amazing. The be the opposite of this episode the amount of ground. This movie covers the first ten minutes. Musical number. Then going back, stage I never ever see him again rivalry blame establish. Goldie, Goldie over eating, getting institutionalized, hatching her plan for revenge. Always forget that. Goldie like fat and then in a mental institution, I always forget that there's that two minutes right at the start of the movie and then and then it's over with and then we never returned to are amazing. I. Don't know what fats knowledge at this point and also I would say the fat jokes have probably aged the worst of anything in this movie what? Facts. Totally, and then you she gets the idea and then it says like another seven days later, the movie is. Making a joke about how many time jumps it's made in ten minutes. Yeah. It's just wild how How quickly it's sort of covering a lot of. You have to assume that's where it is losing the audience losing the critical community like now I think people would be like this is wild. I love this like ninety shoot. They're just like what now get Outta here right you always feel that tone in those reviews. suburbia. Flake. The status quo of the movie proper which is. Unhappy Marriage between the two of them, they've been together for seven years. Willis drinking himself into oblivion. He's disgraced no longer doing surgery now a mortician and Meryl's. Rose in her career obsessively. About her aiding beauty, which is the other area you say, like, what? What are his links? Where do you see this? Where do you see this? DNA FROM EVEN WANNA. Do this. One is the looney tunes at boat ride for all the physical sort of. To is oh. This is another tapestry to try a lot of new special effects ticket because that will come. so much of the juice for him. Is there a new technique I can pioneer first time in this movie let alone multiple techniques try let alone are their techniques that I use before that I can refine with mature and then the third thing is. It took me a little while to crack that you can view the movie through the prism. Does fall into that subcategory of. perfectionist directors making movies about futile obsessive West's it does fall into even in. It's weird comedy way with fincher doing Zodiac James Gray doing lost city of Z he's directors were so obsessed with he's sort of like Herculean efforts that they can never quite conquer is a movie about like especially because says so technical. So visual is so poppy the idea of just like. These women are never ever going to get a physical form that makes them. It's just GonNa be endless quest in the name of fighting over this Shitty Guy who who himself is just like a baxter he's just the he's the representation of the rivalry with me. And any external appearances or what they think actually. Turned the war. And I think that's part of how has empathy for them to like. It's obviously. The idea that you can try to stay forever young in how is kind of a firm? Let's pursue but you think of how so many movies the freshman from this time they treat women for getting plastic surgery or for like trying to stay young forever it doesn't do that. It's not shitty about it the way that. You would expect it to be that might be what you're saying from that like he recognizes that impulse in himself about something different and therefore will treat them were as human beings in pursuit of perfection which we all want. which like the other thing the other theme is that much like other movies Sydney Pollack has made guest appearances in such as Michael Clayton and eyes wide shut. It is a movie about a Secret Society of rich insane people who have media. And The big fancy. Dinner kind of explicable. Also. Just at the end, you're like Oh. This is like an eyes wide shut party. was just. Wear. Party. Though gaming. Crossover vibe. The party is like him doing the Roger Rabbit thing again of like how many visual gags can you establish revealing this person is actually this jeopardy like the party but comes this colt is unifying every tragically young celebrity death or disappearance and in like ten minutes sneaks in James Dean Andy Warhol Greta Garbo. Marilyn. Monroe Elvis. Jim More than likely just starts cramming. Also a very boomers Meka's thing to do. Right. So it is a little bit of a walk down memory lane for him. Yeah forrest Gump preview getting the famous faces in the in the background shots. Yes. Yeah and they're all revealed as if they're porky pig and Roger Rat. He's the minute they start talking about it. You're like, Oh, who is it going to be? WHO's GONNA be hanging out in the party like making surprise you. But. Yes. So but back to the plot though yes. I. Mean the main sequence we need to talk about next is her and Isabella Rossellini. After all this insane preamble, right? You see their marriage socks he's a mass. Ben They go to say she's right. They they go to. The goal goalie hardy. Party she's finally written the Book and she'd was amazing outage. He'd do it. Can you believe she's fifty? I cannot Goldie Hawn looks amazing. That's all he looks incredible and also Maryl- Maryl- also visits her young. bit on the side. Young love her young masters. And and he has rejected her for a younger woman. I feel like this movie is before Digital touch-ups. Now, most movies alias actresses and even with a list actors. Have extensive visual effects applied to making everyone look as tiny as possible, removing all the wrinkles, and this is before that but I feel like this movie through combination of makeup and lighting and. Lenses and does a really good job of showing the two of them in the first high-minded at the beginning of the movie than cutting Ford almost ten years where you're actually seeing like the appearance of early wrinkles on Merrill I? Feel like the movie really wants to make you start to notice where her ace's beginning of all, and then how quickly they sort of undo all of that. There's like a little bit of visual trickery but I also think it's really good. Bilingual on both back. There's a great shot early watching her leg butt lifts like in real time which I, don't know what they did for that I mean maybe it's a digital fact that look it looks great and then yeah, she just looks gorgeous. Can I read the Big Merrill quote? From some interview where they asked her about what it was like doing as like her first big visual effects, he hasn't really done anything. She says my first my last my only I think it's tedious. Whatever concentration you can apply to that kind of comedy is to threaded. You stand there like a piece of machinery they should get machinery to do it I, love how it turned out, but it's not fun to act to a lamp stand pretend this is Goldie here I'm sorry Bob she went off the mark by five centimeters an hour head won't master. It was like being at the dentist. It's very funny. And it is funny that more people don't just say like fuck that man like you know like they kind of whatever put up with it. She makes it sound. So miserable I, mean look I had to launch of this on the tech and it's an it's really difficult is in says she makes it sound and it's very hard to act with any sort of emotional comedic instincts when you're working around life the exact centimeters of placement in lighting timing and all that sort of Shit. I also think people just gotten beaten down of life. That's how most things are may POW. Fight, this is now acting it isn't there more ability to fix it in post now at least late. At this point they didn't they couldn't tweak things the way they can now. But they're still I. Mean. If you're doing a high, it'll affect stuff. There's still bat sort of like precision starts to come more like dance choreography than does light. Traditional acting and you try to fit whatever sort of you know energy and Metro you ten into it with this movie is such a wild because it is sort of a tail end of. You you have I Alam doing CGI. Refining a of the techniques of a really breath of air on drastic are this is the first movie where CGI was USA replicate human flesh? That's like it's big. Sort of. Asterix is late at all that transformations of those the first time that had been ever done. Organic material via CPI in that way and but there's so much stuff that is mechanical that is. Where it's like the amount of different devices that were strapped to her the amount of time, she probably had to do a scene three different ways to get three different elements. One time per body walking backwards one timer head walking forwards wearing a green saw once I'm saying the dialogue offscreen while no one was there like all that Shit. It's just one of these movies where like any sequence or any of those things happen had to be. Done and this thing that I loved. The American Werewolf of London in London, thing where you have to build these big light static devices for one shots like if you want to do the gag of she falls down the stairs and then her neck, it's posted every single part of that is like an entirely new dummy they had to build or appliance for her. You know there's one that goes down the stairs. There's one they puppeteer that can get on its feet. There's one that's her wearing upside down like. Chest you know all that stuff is just stole Lebron's. It's fucking cool to watch and that shot up her falling down the stairs is really visceral like you then. Dummies, boy do you feel it? was like what? was generally taken back by this movie, which is a weird movie to just throw on now that I think about it like like the first part you're like, okay, this. Okay. I'm with this. But We have to talk about his wrestling. We have to talk about that scene. It's such A. Tone setter. It's such a crucial tone set at the jewels on the boobs or so. Like like one of those like costume decisions, he can't take your eyes off like where you're just like are they glued on like what's going like hearing anything? Ever. Yes. The entire movie she wears. Over at the end. But otherwise she just wearing jewelry over her naked. I am such a sucker for an irritating European monologues at me in a ridiculous room like I just that always makes me laugh or be really involves I. She's so funny. Yeah, and it's it's she's fancy and European and intimidating and beautiful. But also being really funny in the process I don't even totally know how she's nailing that tone. There's newer how she has Meryl Against Her age. She gets offended like that's an actual joke. But the whole thing is just very like it's art, it's camp. When Merrill sees the transformation of her hand after she puts the drops on it and she goes my God and use the Belarus Selena goes. Thank you. Isabelle rose leany thinking things calling her God is so fucking well done but it's such life HBO's Berry. Goldie and and Bruce and Merrill are very heightened in this movie and somehow, Isabella, Rossellini gets away with seemingly playing theory straight. Why knowing that, she must be aware of where the comedy is but she But she's not really coining at any of the. The Comey's kind of in her being. Isabella Rossellini in having this amazing accent and being this beautiful and be kind of present in the world that Meryl Streep inhabits intimidating her in the process. Right? She's so confident that Merrill just has to buy it. She just has to blow this crap. And she never breaks the facade at any point, right? At the end with Bruce Willis is giving away like she's like very cool and collected the whole time, right? Now never never raced voice never breaks. qb agreed Halloween costume also. Let's just. Come to. Be Fun now where we're going On Zoom. Zoom. I'll be spending pollock at home. Stethoscope but you throw out other stuff. Just keep pro amount. The reveal of the potion working by having her boobs like cartoon initially. Zach up is great. Stuff his there's the SORTA legs. There's a digital sort of like Basilan on the lens effect on her face and her hair sort of guests more volume the breasts in the boobs heightened. Jesus. Even the hand the hand affect is really walk the hand. That's like just basically the extent technology is. Disappearing handwrite like that's just. Whatever. The name of the technology it's not cool. effet one hand disappear but they have the other hand under. Yet that's how they did the effects. Haiti that effect was actually done all in camera. They had an actress who was playing the older and and then they went back in time and stop parents from getting sick. In real time her hand disappeared on camera and Chuck Berry. Yes the younger, and that's that's entirely in camera. But weirdly MEKA's doesn't have a delorean he had to borrow Isabella Rossellini 's. Think it's hit. She's like, Oh, you can use. But then we get to murder. Then we're on murder apple most that whole thing we're into murder we're into. Bruce. Being convinced to kill his wife by golden in their struggle. Yes, and then this is. This is all of this is the head. Saying Bruce Vile Merrill is with Roseline. Those things happen at the same time. Than Merrill comes back home he sort of young. Did you get a haircut? And then they're fighting asteroids to the staircase do just the visual of her balancing off the stairs in the heels like where she's like forty five degrees. She's like come on. You don't have much longer. That she has that. Thing. Yes, it's like such a precise balance that Tashaun kind of thing of like we're going to build a joke out of a purpose purposeful denial of physics like we're going to have. To nail that thing where it doesn't look like you've done a bad job with wire work but it looks like this is a deliberate choice to defy laws of gravity and balance on the edge for HEALDSBURG slightly to long. Is so good. You also have that great shot of light where they're hopping. Merrill is watching Goldie Hawn and Bruce Willis talking. From the top of the staircase in fears that they were plotting to kill her and then says, she's a has been in Meryl's like claws go down and. The would Damascus. I've noticed a couple movies in a row, a a lot of Damascus using a mirrors and obviously contact as one of the greatest special effect shots all time with. Her. And I do think. I A very precise like sort of technically obsessed director off intense become suspect meteors because of the economy of being able to frame shots where you're able to get multiple faces in the same frame all at once. But also this movie, He does a lot. And I feel like it's also a reflection of out says these people are with how they look to themselves yet not even how they looked to other people but what they see when they look number but there's a lot of that several scenes where there's a conversation being played out from one angle you're at one person had on and then the reflection in the mirror on the other side. Of the Meryl Fall on the stairs. He Calls Goldie. Just fucking idiot is. Goldie, Hawn's plan isn't even that good but at least it's fully thought out and then he immediately does the opposite of what she told him and then Fox I call her calls her and just heard doing of like being like Hugh Idiot and then having to retract because she sort of like. Well, this is the person I've schemed for for years. I guess I have to support him in his stupid decisions. It's more about her being mad at Merrill than wanting him like that. That seems to be what she eventually comes around to when they when they finally see each other. Oh, I was just mad at you. I didn't love him so much. Right, he's he's just like I feel like that's the other thing that maybe keyed into although forrest Gump is the one that comes after this. But the very Hollywood thing of light is the next thing gonNA. Make me happy if I get this part if this movie's hit if I win an Oscar and what tends to ruin a lot of people is they just come szeswith trying to fill the void without ever recognizing the void is never going to get bill and it's the same kind of thing where there. So on the idea of what this guy represents to their sense of femininity invaluable valid. And also what he needs to are history but neither of that, really seemed to give a shit about this guy muscle. Now, we why he becomes an undertaker like by he ping they like blame Merrill for but it's unclear to me why that happens in my read on it is that he started drinking so much because of their marriage failing because there's bit where he gets served his bloody Mary and then he picks up the scalp on his handshaking shaking too much and he throws it. I read that as a Maxi storytelling thing of light is his hands to shake either perform on living people in every day he tests to see if he's got it makes sense. That makes sense to me. Not Super Pac. Whenever. Now Maryland Goldie in the house and you have a big twelve minutes. Bobby is thrown all the tricks in in the. In the bag out on the screen. Just just a delay like this whole thing just rules. It still looks pretty terrific. It really does like considering that it is innovating. So much of the stuff that is doing like, yeah, sure. You can see some of the super like the head spin stuff that looks pretty fantastic. Only affected I don't think has aged farewell well is the one that is most holy digital, which is Meryl Walking with her head on backwards stats. Lightman who different images composite a lot of the other stuff is using makeup using clever angles that shit. All looks perfect. Yeah. Leg when she bashes Meryl's head down and it's like all early next skin scrunched up around. Like Sharpei. Pulling. SHERP Murals Bit of light. Has Been Sort of dislodged, and she's trying to place back which keeps on falling forward. Yeah. Like he's got this, we've percents neck to that's also just physical comedy. Horror playing it really well, the bones at terrified. Sidney Pollack. So much are so. Give me the creeps the thing about it. All. She's got with twelve different neck pieces that are applied to different parts of the movie. There's the one with the bone. There's the one that looks twisted backwards is the one that just like sort of light saggy because it had been stretched out there's so many next. Good next. Make us. I mean, he's mostly visual effects. I, mean I guess so. You. Know, there is I know it's funny that it was only even acknowledged by the Oscars visual effects that make up was like makeup feels like such an obvious. So much prosthetic stuff in this. But wait now now, now I'm annoyed, I have to look what the makeup category was that Year Dracula huge. Returns, which is huge but then Hoffa which I think is more just old guy makeup. And there's always wanted every year. Yeah. To the makeup Atlanta. Right, so whatever I don't know why they ignored him but yeah. Yeah I mean. They got. The best. Whoever did it? Little Big Man at Godfather and. clueless. This. Movie rules like. It's a feather in his frigate. Calf. Absolutely. And then right I remembered the rest of the movie just being body damage. But then of course, there's this whole thing where like he gets fed up is light enough the two of you can be with each other I'm over this and then they realize like. You. Know it's weird arc of like. It stops being about them competing with each other they solve the psychological trauma of. You thought I was cheap I tried to get back at you by sleeping with all the guys taking all your boyfriend's they just talk it all out. They have this great hard to her by the fireplace. Happens Midway through right exactly. Right. And there's such a little Mac like a tiny moment but undoubtedly must have caused so many headaches it's like a quietly complicated visual effect shot. Merrill has thrown this year through her. And then it goes through his the couch Meryl Cheers, and then realized I've only damage my own doubts. Gold keeps on talking, and then at one point she sits down on the couch and would face sits down on the couch. The spirit goes perfectly green her. Really funny. That might be the most complicated shot, the entire movie and it's like a throwaway gag it must have taken. It's true. There's so many things like that where you're like, this must take fucking forever this. League Zemeckis having the budget to comedy with this kind of affects thing that he's doing this period is like nobody else I can think of now certainly would do a gag like that that complicated and take that much time and resources like it's just it's all in the service of light money shots and not a joke that didn't is not even a full laugh. It's like and then tapestry. As Merrill. said that kind of. Technical. A craft is counterintuitive to a lot of how comedy performing works. It is to his credit as director even if it was unpleasant for them to do that, he was able to handle both and especially with read very different movie stars. Very different I mean like I don't know. Goldie Hawn. Obviously Goldie Hawn at this point is still just like A. An alias comedy icon. Has. She done a lot of. Like. I don't think he's really ever done anything that would be this convoluted right now at this came up house sitter where movie I definitely saw as a kid for some reason. Of course been say how sitter did have a fifty million dollar via effects five that movie been? Now. You never saw how sitter now. I don't know you'd like it Stephen. Haunt scam. Kim Ben. You did see houseguests, right. Has that WHO's in that Sinbad? Film Heart. Of course get. Didn't seem that. It'd be like are hugh. Not Ben. Stir. Yeah, no, I would never have not seen that. Taj that if I tried. You name the director of houseguests. Can I name the director of House guest is? Depend on it, I cannot name the director of houseguests. Why it's than convicted manslaughter Randall Miller. Of course, the maker of the sixth man and. Whatever I don't know what else does he may not. He was the one responsible for that horrible incident where the recently this is like a few years ago right? Crew member died on one of his films because they were filming on train tracks without a permit and. Thing with the. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. He went to jail and has been arguing for his release dot released and one of the conditions of the sentencing was that he could never make a movie again and then he went to Germany and made a movie about Competitive Baristas or some Shit Jesus right? He's the one who made that like he made a wine movie at some point he made. The point mood yes, that would. The awful CBGB's movie. He's In. Different tax you but I did see houseguests house sitter was by Frank God's have you guys ever put him on the march madness bracket we we talked I mean he's never been a good boy but I mean, he's obviously candidate. It'd be a really fun. and. The STEPFORD wives. But it. Is a fascinating disaster in a certain way STEPFORD. Wives these the thing completely definitively kills this type of comedy last. Expensive big effects driven movie star comedy, bewitched, and suffered. Wise. are like. Yeah Link Two thousand four hundred thousand five kidding to close the closest thing he's made movies that are close to truly incredible like. Little Shop Behar's in Bo finger moves. Take Manhattan in out is more like it's like fun movie that would also just wild to discuss today but there's nothing in his filmography where I'm like. Well, this would be boring to talk about because like even something like the Stepford wives or the score you're like, well, Shit does a lot to dig into. So do we have we obviously talked about the hospital which is iconic. We, there's the shotgun is that we've talked about that like I. Guess the only it's just that that final party scene in the sort of. Triumph of Ernest. Not Taking the Fountain of Youth Drink right like. Window after he takes her to the hospital, he realizes vs de when he finds from the body bag Afford Goldie comes in where he steams Ria namrd with her because she is a medical miracle against starts getting very attracted to her again and falling back in love with her because of the sign of God's Right but then he is able to spray paint her back. goes his value. In that way you have the final cat-and-mouse traced through the party, all those look still alive bags. Right, and then he makes that final choice. Do you know that this movie the reason I watch the trailer the billing before this is like a weird rogue one trailer where there is so much footage that. Vocal this whole. With right Yemen, tracey ullman being based on face. The allows the woman that he was going to leave both of them for, and she is not in the movie at all but she has dialogue in the trailer. She was a bartender that he went to the complain about what's going on. He falls in love with her and goes off and Mary Sir. Mile In like. I get why they cut it a whole ending that they cut. That's not even available. You can't even find it on like a DVD or. No know but. That's him meeting her and getting with her I think it's Funnier to his funeral and have the priest, and then he had such a nice. And here. That we don't see children. Yeah. Is, tracey, Ullman. Seen somewhere like as in like old age. An, entirely different ending the losing shot the ending. Absolutely, 'cause like audiences hated it the ending a most likely the original ending's entirely redone. Test audiences reacted negatively through the end honest after his lead leases party meeting a bar tender Tracey Ullman who helps us those going to happen after he escaped? Yes. Yeah. Absolutely. immune bartender helped him fake his death to evade Madeline and Helen two women encounter earners in the Bar Center twenty seven years later living happily as. All the Microsoft the ending was too happy and opt for the darker ending featured in the final cut omen was one of five actors speaking roles in the film to be eliminated. A lot of. People who take supporting roles. We're just doing at all Jonathan Silverman. Of weakened Bernie's and other Porsche classes I assume ben help played played Merrill's agent. Are you. Keep Click, on Jonathan Silverman's page and see photo. Click on it, and it's one of those iconic. Like has no address this images why is he midst speeds? Horse movies for me tell me what comes up. Early. Confidence over and sneeze it is. Interesting that like they they tested the movie, the trailer, the first images Taylor trailer is big title card a Robertson. Zemeckis fell it shows you how big he was at this point in time. That's the first thing they put in the trailer is like yet ready it's and in the troll has so much. That's not in the movie not just Tracey Ullman not just a little bit of Jonathan Silverman but also. Has a bunch of pieces from what seems to be an entire set piece of him trying to freeze Meryl Streep and put her in rage museum. Yes There's all this expensive thought that they shot and they test screened. Clearly after that free lawyer had come out ends. America's was like Adam movies not fast. There's too much other stuff. Let's cut it down and they reshot the ending. None of that stuff is ever been released in. But the thing is the ending rules like the funeral is so funny we aren't going down the stairs and popping into pieces as bends. Background in. Is Great like Mason joke like how many movies pull off that like having a one liner like Sound, like it hot is being like the. Heat version, but it really hard to pull off. It's a solid button. Like to go out on. Very good. And also it is the rare case of like bad test screening come up with a new ending. That is darker. The audience at the first ending is too happy and you know cynical funding. That's not the Vibe of this movie like you got it. Wrong. But should be dark the audience kind of guy from the beginning. that. They have each other in a weird way lake. They both been fighting against things they can't defeat but at least they have each other even though these. Weird. Crackled Lazy. Weird sweet they about the automated comes romance. Between the two of that. Yeah. I would imagine that's also part of it like becoming part of the queer cannon to is like these lake when. This guy like let's run on their own? Ladies are doing it for themselves. This was a big hit I mean it was coming in between that's I would not I would not call this a big hit. I would just. Say it made it made fifty eight domestically. and. Its budget was fifty five. Now you know it did okay oversee. So it makes a hundred and fifty worldwide. But I don't think I don't think anyone. Three because I was one that came right before ninety three is the one that draw. Like nine threes, the women's. This sure is obviously more than three head made you know similar numbers to the other two. They would have figured on making a fourth maybe not I mean like I feel like. Just did. They weren't you're. Just like just imagine if it had made like five, hundred, billion dollars. Just. One of those things where at a certain point the studio b like well, we gotta do something. But Anyway but We're creative control and Hill right. Also, I was looking at the box office after we recorded and two and three were so big overseas. You know in the late eighties early before that was really thing even three drop the hub bunch domestically to pretty much made the same amount internationally. So that franchise was still use this movie. A step down in his next movie is the third highest grossing movie of All time to that. So. Let's play the box office game. It's July thirty first nineteen, ninety two. So it is a summer release little later in the summer. But and it does open number one, twelve, million dollars. So you know. Not, bad. Number two at the box office, we referenced one of its sequels on this episode, it's a children's film. It's a sequel. Has. Another entry is number two. Thirty million dollars. In three weeks not the kind of gangbusters performance of the first one. Is the third one to. Its. High Abloh the. That kids big. Definitely saw the movie theaters. That's what it. comes. In, to. Absolutely, an early theatre going memory for my I had a novelization of that movie which really shows you how deep I was an. I have seen that movie multiple times I feel like we rented it a lot or whatever. He only thing I remember as the kid in the red overalls like. starring. Cary Russell Guitar. I mean is it good? Probably not like I just don't remember the movie really I re washed them recently I think the first. On the kids is underrated I think it should have. The same status that Shit goonies has I think it's much better than goonies are home alone I know people are gonNA attack me for this. But I think for that era of that sort of like hit adventure movie is Joe. Johnson can well done. It's it's don't him for sure This good. The second one's kind of a mess. Randall. Is directed grievances just not right. But I think it's really really. Number three at the box office. Griffin is a film. That is I would say mostly loss history I. Just WanNa read the tagline and see if you get it from that. The tag on. Some of the best things in life are free. But if you want it all it all underlined. Just say. Mo.. Just say Mo just say money Mo problems. It. It's no money with Damon Wayans Stacey Dash the debut performance of Bernie Mac. Wow Wow written by Damon Wayans right. Yeah? Unsurprisingly. Money Mo problems Joe Schmo money problems is implied. Do believe. Ensue I. DO think that there are some problems, right? Thing. More problems would have been how they built out of the franchise is his name Oh in that movie? No Saves Johnny. CH- Would would be cool I agree with you. Never like Barney. Kind of. Race. My Damon Wayans like in living color is on last boy scout just came out like. You know like he obviously I'm. Like, let's just let's have a Damon Wayans vehicle right? Why not? And it doesn't really hit interesting that they. Made. A lot of movies until Jim Carey became a movie star and. Your I mean, it's like I saw blank man in theaters fully like saw that in theaters thought it ruled. Probably doesn't rule but I remember loving it. Still. It's still. swoon. Lacks like strand hit somebody it comes back to you. That's good. Garbage robot sidekick he gets. That shouldn't he lives in a subway station I mean. One of my top ten movies when I saw it. Bender Amanda Mary Man. It is. That's right. But then like after you've got like Celtic Pride Great White Hype Bulletproof in ninety six where it's like Oh, lot of. Damon Wayans movies, and then that is it like he's made five movies since then at all and one of them is playing the h-have. That's my ass penguin in farce of the penguins. Show that we have hunter. Douglas. My wife and kids. moneymaker and yes, he had my wife and kids for many years. He also spends three years of begging to quits lethal weapon. Fire Me. Every time interview do. Please, let me stop being on this. And then they were like okay okay. We won't let you leave the show. We will fire the guy playing rigs and he's like, okay, you're going to wreak asked him. No Sean William, Scott will play a new character. He's not gonNA. Play rigs this show is called lethal weapon. No, he will not favorite. Will rigs awful brother. This guy reads dies ostry race a character defined by the fact that he is suicidal. Sort of. Screen related reasons. Anyway. Number. Four at the box office Katie we've talked about this movie. So many times a movie we will do on this podcast one day. A sports comedy. Hit. Of One, thousand, nine, hundred Oh. No? A. Lot of sports comedies in the early nineties. Do It on this podcast. Yeah. No offense to little. I don't think it's going to make it is it is it an adult? Is it for yes. Es Sure I. Mean It's a family movie, but it's about grownups. Is Snow Angels in the Outfield if. It's not whitening ten. No No, no no families will enjoy this film. Analyst. For everybody. Buddy brought you. Probably PG I would assume. We're definitely do it Sunday. Yeah. Yeah. This director was on our bracket. Last year. Gile of this I just watched it had a great time. Stars. We've got a major female star who is more famous as a singer, but nonetheless, definitely an actress as well, and then we have a male star who's kind of roughing up his image just enough still cute greats according turn. oscar-nominated. Their on a perfect movie. Literally Burger. And it has Lori Petty who've been. Fan. We who she's taste in later on. All. Of course. A poster. Assuming. Ben You also poster of John Love it's on your wall. No. David Aaron as a handyman. Poster. Love. It's on my wall. Still Do. Leader on what a great movie. In Nineteen ninety-two Penny Marshall Number five at the box office, a film best known for the television series eventually spot. Bring this week a huge flop buffy, the vampire slayer. At the. Nineteen Ninety two to starring Kristy Swanson directed by Fran Rubel Kazoo. E who is Credited on every episode of the series and gets a paycheck for all of them nothing to do with the series. Nice get. residuals for the rest of her life four ruining gus. For fucking up like. My movie. So badly that I now need to make a series to try to rescue what I thought. The thing was about continue to cash checks. So. If you guys ever seen it, it's not very good I've not seen it. Yeah. It's all right. It's it's kind of. A Dumb existed enough that when the show came out, I was like that's weird and then. You've also got sister act here. temporaries all these. Dole. Comedies. Absolutely you have. Babe as kids the cartoon. Based based. Based on the comedy stylings of Robin Harris. Away by the time the movie care. I believe that's right had died like two years earlier. I watched it recently, that movie is fascinating because he was good great stand up comedian. Yeah. Baby Babies, kids rules. If fucking written by Reginald who directed boomer yeah. It's so good and stole all animated but he was a stand who's fairly successful than he was in house party movies was sort of his movie breakouts and then they took this routine of his that was about going on a date with a woman and accidentally realizing he had been tricked into taking care of the his but they weren't even her kids their babies. That's the whole bit. Is that like? Taking care of some other person's. Data. Sorting to be a hack, but the nineties are so great. Like this is a great box office game. David. The original routine. It's so good in every time he drops another baby is kids need lands. Maybe I know there's the joke. We don't die. We multiply right like that's sort of like, yes, it's a little stingray. Fourteen they were like we could make an entire hydroxy animated film about this guy being tricked into taking care of some other persons, kids at a theme park and that's that's the movie and because animation took. So long they made the deal him, they started on the movie and he died in the movie count like two or three years later and phase on law placed. recorded. Yep. Stuff man. You've got unlawful entry film in which Ray Liotta makes unlawful lawful entry into someone's. The home of Kurt Russell. And Madeline Stowe. Tanqueray. Yep. And Universal Soldier Hey. Universal soldier. That's a fun. One Ban you've seen universal soldier issue. Absolutely. That's the box I game. What a what a great time in America. One thousand nine hundred ninety two. Things. Li News. No problems. was about to be president. and. That didn't create any bones. All nope. nope. Gre- tend to be a boomer honestly between this forth, coming down the Pike. That's we talk about we talk about it. It really is. It's like. They're just like this is A. tweet. Is absolutely like tape parade for an entire generation. The millennials get that man to get it and I didn't even really don't deserve it and neither. Wars. That was actually. Going to be like a gift for like A. Deleted Internet. Yeah. Your thought on is going to be a threat. It's going to be read gifts and. Lists. Boy. Create everything's done. Were done you the best in the best? This is us. It is my favorite thing to do I have been having Tim listening to the series also We'll see see how it goes when the when the going gets tough when a couple weeks. Before we start recording, it's like with neither also worried usually like any. That's longer than five films were usually title. About couple. Yes. I. Don't know how we're going to make an episode about that. But but all of the bad ones are also just so here. Is nearing election week. Is it one? But he gets to contact. Why? No No, you're. It's far as your rates I come I. Forgot how it Works out perfect the which is A. Screwed up your schedule is him. Now, we go far beyond of the series. So Yeah Yeah. We'll do it in order is a Wednesday. schedule. Correct the witches took it switches essentially just going into the west side story spot. It all lined up three or. Sounds like everything's going just fine. I got no complaints making this show has been a super easy. ME. Back into a studio ever again. Hi. Joe Now. Also, the way you do, this allows me to be um it more often which i. See. The advantage it's opened the door to us doing this anytime. You don't do it all the time. And and for example. Next week Orascom is while the this guy goes from Tampa concert of forrest gump. But next week we'll, be talking about force. With our friend returning guests the Great Mel Buoy. From New York. Times like has been writing amazing up ED's about lake. The threat to democracy is under was like Oh, watch forrest gump and I'm like Oh God got into to take the ball watch for us. China. We gotTA talk. That we argue with Jamal and he was like, how did you get him and I was like he like listens to the show in his are Frank Say, it's hard for me to the stay non like I. Think he's smart for her so big. Huge literally said good point. To me. He's legitimate leader. Yes giving you guys his thoughts. Yeah. I think you're the smartest people in America. Tune in for that. But. It's. Good. Just continues to be the only thing that makes me question about his. End Same Katie Katie. You're the first person where you were like I'm listening to your show day with it. I was like Oh shit this is real now I listen to all those phantom menace episode search. For some reason I don't know why I like this I think everyone went through this real like why do I keep listening to this and then that's how you got us all. And now it's been like what? Teen Years Since all started twenty. started. That's no. Yeah. Yeah. That's right right. No because our fifth anniversary was this March. So now we're at fifteen years. Yeah. In the Shaw, all of our faces. Absolutely. Before. But you're you're kind of the first proper guest of blank check. Yoshida name the and you were the first guest on proper director miniseries. Then Dan you're you're in the DNA. Anytime I will be glad to be a part of it. Forever and we when Marshall's number comes up. You better bring me back on. Oral on episode. I promised we will ask. We will offer. Any. Your. And I'm offering only by the way. So I'm not auditioning for that Shit Yeah. Of course now offer offer. Listen logo. Mat. Yeah. and. Fighting in the room I, mean you. Came on in never plugged the podcasts we have been doing for actually ten years. Dummy. Yeah. He's. He didn't plug it. So fighting the war on. Men. Yeah. That's where you can find me they plug my twitter news do that. Twitter you put. As He is age I listened to the show often do not make it to this part of it. I Apologize I forgot the rules. Art. We. Were just like this where David? Talk Button, what else can we talk about this? It's that and that's what I did. Did I forget All the redone. Past midnight listening please around a rate use of strive thanks Lee Montgomery team song. Joplin hair house are were a thanks to end Burgio personal media and increase the. GO-TO. PATIENT SLASH WHEN CAC watching the alien movies and doing on fun bonuses stuff. Tales from the crypt in the like. GO TO A. Conference in Nerdy Shit into our patriots real nerdy merch. Next week. The company. And is always. Flaccid. Blast.

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Kate Hudson and Goldie Hawn, Cher, Carrie Underwood and Kalen Allen

Ellen on the Go

28:11 min | 2 years ago

Kate Hudson and Goldie Hawn, Cher, Carrie Underwood and Kalen Allen

"Hi, it's Ellen Degeneres. Welcome to my podcast. We're gonna listen to some of the best moments from the show, and it's going to be hosted by four executive producers that I love happy listening on today's episode of Ellen on the go, Kate Hudson and Goldie. Hawn get very personal during burning questions. Carrie Underwood. Does her best not to have Ellen reveal the gender of her new baby and Caitlyn Allen gives his followers some life advice. Welcome to our podcast. I'm Andy. I'm Andy last ner. I'm Mary calmly. I'm Ed glavin. I'm Kevin Leman and we are the executive producers of the Ellen Degeneres program. I mean, the reaction and the response to this podcast has been. Stephanie. Tens or tens of people have listened to it. And some of those lights leave that I go onto Twitter and people are really seeming to like it. They like hearing from us. They like a little bit of the behind the scenes that we give them and and they actually want more of that. They really like hearing a about how this show comes together under my guidance. I've heard they're particularly fond of my work. That's true. No, you gotta DM on. Yeah. From from viewer and a fan of the show said, what who said Mary Connolly is such a bad ass. I think she's incredible say that's what I've been telling you guys said, why don't you send that note to Mary. I told you I've been telling you give a bad ass. Jerry, you're the reason. We're all here. We're aware. Let's talk about Kate Hudson and Goldie. Hawn. Oh my God, mother, I want. I want Goldie Hawn to be my mom for friend to have the two of them play off each other. Like I didn't see if ever done. I don't think Kate Hudson and Goldie Hawn of ever done a talk, show appearance together. I don't ever remember seeing them together and they were so so fun. It was so fun to watch. They're like little diner. Their little mother, daughter dynamic isn't more pregnant. She was like about like your water could have brought on our show. I'm guessing by the time anyone is listening to this podcast, she will have had her baby probably. I mean, she was she's maybe the most fragment guest we've had as close birthright. She like I was actually nervous right. Hi ladies. How are you? Oh, good. Yeah. Yeah, like you are winning. When are you do? Let's just say you probably have never had anyone this pregnant on your. I mean, really look like it's any minute now. Could be well, honor could go any second. I have. I have. This. This looks like my mom at the last berth. I'm so. You didn't have. To take these with, you know what was happening at the last berth didn't you bring pizza in there or something? I, you know, I, I, I, I brought her a. What do you call it up magnolia because that was well, it was huge. It was big and it means to think of my vagina as a magnolia flower. I never wanna think in my vagina that big brother open, and that's what the flower did. A blossom. And then I got three and she was, you know, in this stirrups and everything. But I said, you know, I was like dilating. So I said, you know, just really hungry. I just gonna come back and came out with pizza torito's and Doritos. Well, actually, the best part of that was when mom called me when I was in labor and said, so I'm about to take a swim, and I was going to get a massage. How long do you think you're going to be labor. And I was like, I don't know. I mean, I'm like calling the nurse going. Do you know how long going to be laboring? My mom wants to swim. We make it a sixty minute or ninety minutes this is, should we cut it down? Hey, Zack. Well, you're so you're very, very relaxed at this whole thing. Nothing stresses you out number six. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Not for you. But number six is grandma right? Here's a grandmother. No, it doesn't it. None of it really stressed me out. But but the the excitement is far greater than the stress part. I should have been more mindful. I thought that the the baby last baby was going to be a girl so much that I did knit pink blanket. And when I saw his penis coming out, I like wreck focused to the pink blanket and thought, boy, did I screw up. Right. Then you very quickly than a white blanket. I did, which we just found. We brought it back out on. That's sweet, but but you know what this one is because you did a reveal. Yeah, I couldn't. I couldn't. I had to be prepared if it was another boy, right? Yeah, which I would have been really happy with obviously, but I just needed to know. Oh, yeah. So you're going to have a little girl finally. Yeah. And you have names picked out? We do. We have a couple of them and we're going to decide when the day comes and are the, are your sons happy to have a little sister? Yeah, I think he'll be sweet to her. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, they're, they're super excited. I think they're all. Well, they're really, oh, yeah. Bing, Bing, I think is probably a teen at riders. A teenager hit believe how old he is. Now. I know in that picture he was even young. You know, he's he's so much. I mean, I can't every week he comes down. I feel like I'm looking at a different boy. I was just like, whoa, he's just growing so fast. Maybe it is. Maybe he's Simmons fooling. You even living. Yeah, switching, if you'd noticed there is of course they're so excited. Yeah. So you were Bing was how how much did he wait? Seven, twelve, seven, twelve, and this one is going to weigh a lot. I mean, I think she's she's pretty big. Yeah, it's crazy. You know, I mean, I don't know where you know, you don't know where I can't believe that our stomach stretches that right. Magnolia. Exactly. By the way I trade in the front yard. So you might get another. So you think about it, but China, every time you see that tree, my own Jonah has time we're gonna miss it. Goldies comic timing and just, I mean, brilliant. There was so much fun and we played burning questions with them and Kate Hudson revealing. She basically stole her mom's for our and it to a kings game. Oh my gosh. And goldies reaction to that. Kate Hudson and Goldie. Hawn is your first talk show together, and we thought it'd be fun to play burning questions with you. And I'll ask the question first thing that pops into your mind will start with Goldie. Then Kate then me. All right. I'm so stare. What's the most rebellious thing you did as a teenager drove through a cemetery, but I was in the backseat. Let's say, oh, oh, draw drove. My mom's Ferrari two kings game. You did. I did. I mean, sounds terrible. Wow, but I did. I stole I took it. Wow. Fantastic growth like amazing was like. Teen, and it was like like a Jain is. That reminded me that funny story, but we're playing games. You can tell me tell the story. Mom had a car that was stolen out of the house and she didn't realize it was stolen for two weeks. Dolan they found it completely taken apart interest-rate. Wow. Have you ever caught in your parents having sex? Yes. On no. No. What do you say when you need to swear, but the kids were around? Oh, shoot. I don't believe you. Totally willing to say what you say. Okay. Oh, it is that isn't it? It's like, it's like you, like, I mean, like I mean. Have you ever been in handcuffs. No flyer such a law. Never been in handcuffs. Yes, you are you you? You're lying. Why was I on? Let's he? No, it wasn't even. I don't. I I like to touch people. I don't like to. All right. Besides making showering or swimming, what's something else that you've tried doing naked. Oh, I didn't answer. I know I was at lake Mead in the seventies and I didn't have any clothes on in skinny dipped in the water. And I had, I think, right. Well, the question said, other than swimming, but. Okay. I didn't swim. What's the hardest thing to do when you're pregnant? Fly. All righty. I would say it's more than one thing. It's sleep. It's sex, and I never found. Never. In this one walking walking's actually hard. Really? Yeah. Well, you know what? These are on wheels. We can just really. Another game. We love as five second rule on my gosh. I love that so much. Also always works, but never worked quite like, did with share and Ellen playing. So basically twitches going to read a category like three types of trees, and I'd say elm oak olives, and then you hit it would see how much time I had left. You have to do it in five seconds, Ellen. Besides coffee named three things, you can get at a coffee shop a cinnamon and napkin, and. Out of time. I didn't make sure you're just trying to make me look good. No, I really. I haven't been at a coffee shop. I don't know what they have. Get your hair washing bowl in your house. Sir named three celebrities. You'd want to do it with Adele, pink and. Not madonna. MS negative? Yes. Yeah, that's not. He said you'd want to. It's not who you wouldn't want to. Hold license. I took a little lugging. You did? Okay. That two of them. All right. Ellen, three favorite body parts. Oh, stomach and legs and arms. Somebody else, somebody else. I don't have any favorites. My. Yeah, named three terms for hooking up. Oh, I don't even know those. I don't know what makes them up. Okay. I can't think of it. I'm totally losing now. Okay. Now I can. Boots is one. And I know that one, you don't know, what would you call it just hooking up. Wouldn't even call it, what would you call it? I don't know. Okay. You just go compare? Yeah. All right, name, three things you do. If the power went out. I would lie to candle. I would just go what happened and I would. Sit around. Tower. Now it is. We're, it's fun for them to. Entertaining them, and that's what matters. Okay. What a three shows you watch but don't like admitting, oh, let's see. Well, I don't watch shows. I don't like admitting. Okay. Hold on. I watch Fox News once in a while. Oh. I don't know. I can't think of it. I like all the all the shows I watch. I like I don't have guilty that. No, you don't have bachelor in paradise. No. Oh, you should watch that? No. Yes, it's like the bachelor watch that. Yeah, no. But in paradise is better than the housewives in east watch. It's different. They don't have. They haven't. They haven't made that one. Okay. That's a good one that housewives of east. Last round. All right. So last me than you. Okay. Three things that turn you on. Oh, music. Sweetness and chocolate chocolate. Always sinking holder for really? Yeah, thinking always thinking, you know, handsome tall. Sweet. Yeah, to be able to have sleep. Yeah, I said, sweet. Okay, chocolate doesn't. I just made that up. So I'd win. This chocolate turn anybody on really like really. I love it. I don't get it much, but I love chocolate cake. You eat chocolate and you're like, you're in the mood? No, that's I don't get to have. I mean, look, I am working on my body and I just don't. I have chocolate, I'm lying. Yes. E. And then it turns you on? No, it doesn't. You know. I didn't mean it in that way. Okay. All right. Give my guest share the last category. Name three ways to make money really fast singing hooking and. And. Acting. We both lost and we'll be right, I'll be right back. She won't. What was so fun about that as you guys all just heard share could not get an answer done anywhere near five second though she had a yet. She had a repeat the question. And she had a think about it and then share was up, share, operates on shared. You'll get a lot more of that and a lot more of Ellen on the Ellen Degeneres show weekdays. Kef. Do you know your heritage? Well, I mean not officially. No. I know my parents told me I'm Mike half German little Swedish Norwegian, but you go pretty far back. You go pretty far back in America? Yes, probably. How about you? Mary. I believe myself to be all Irish. My grandmother came over on the boat. My grandfather was here on my father's side and then I think on my mother's side, maybe they were here a couple more generations. But when you say Irish, maybe some Scottish but Irish. Got it. When you say, when you're going came over on the boat Titanic. No. No, no. Rose. She was rose from the satanic. And what about your heritage? I mean every day, but Jewish, you know, my grandparents are European and all I've heard from my mother and father. My late father I grew up orthodox is that just Jews. And although my father says that he wants went back a few generations on family tree and that the last Nur's were horse thieves in Europe. But as far as I know, Jews walled way back which I'm assuming is true. So my father was the youngest of eleven kids and the oldest, three or four of them were born in Ireland. Both of his parents were born in Ireland's neither wherever US citizens. So I've been to Ireland and I've met my family there. So I have some sense of it, but you guys should try. Have you ever thought about trying twenty in me, I have thought about it, and then I get scared that I would have to then tell my mother guess what? We're not totally Jewish and that I would find out some killer that would upset. Her people aren't funding really crazy things from though it's pretty insane. I know if you're listening and it only what it is twenty three and me is DNA testing service that can offer insights into your ancestry. Your health wellness, and you're and you're traits. And it's, I think it's really cool and you're right, Kevin. People are finding things out about themselves and their history that they had no idea was the case twenty three and me find this really interesting that twenty three and me health and ancestry service includes reports on how your DNA can influence your weight, your sleep, quality caffeine, intake sense of taste, and whether you're likely to be lactose intolerant and like a whole bunch of other stuff. And since I have problems with my weight, my sleep Kuala. And my caffeine intake, I think I'm going to have to try it. Well, Andy, it's pretty easy to do. Here's all that I'm gonna need you to do you simply spit into the tube. You really got one. Yeah. You spit into the tube provided in your Twenty-three in meet kit and you mail your saliva sample to the lab to be analyzed. I know you really want me to do this right now if you don't mind. Okay. Okay. Spill God. Okay. We'll look like enough. How about how about this? It's a little scary, but I will read the results for the first time. We will open them in read the results live on this podcast. So does your listen? Well, we'll have to edit out anything that says that we may not be one hundred percent orthodox Jews. I will. Yeah. Hey, would you guys do it if I got you all kits? Don't think about it. I mean, I'm petrified, but sure. No, I would do it do it. I would. I would do it just don't wanna find out that I can have coffee or that I'm not Jewish. Some features are simply amazing. For example, the cetera it'd fat and weight report tells you based on your genetics, how your weight might be affected by saturated fats in your diet. I can tell you how I get. Even offers tips on which food to watch out for if you're trying to eat less saturated fats. Well, you who are listening can order your twenty three and me health and ancestry service kit at twenty three and me dot com slash Ellen. That's the number to three a. n. d. m. e. dot com. Slash Ellen speaking DNA Underwood's pregnant. Nice segue there. Carrie Underwood who's always a great guest. And just a marvelous singer was on our show this week. And for the first time she's not finding out the sex of her baby. She knows the sex venos-. She wasn't. She wasn't telling and in typical Ellen fashion, Ellen hounded her Ellen, Ellen does not like not knowing not knowing. Are you trying to hide the fact that you're pregnant? It's kinda hard. Congratulations. So do you know what it is? I do. Where we, we like to kinda just hold on things for a minute. Feel like everybody just knows everything about everybody. Right. It's like to have a secret for a little while. Okay. Yeah, you can tell a few minutes. To yourself for a few minutes and then let us know. I can probably tell you what it is. I'm guessing. Yeah, you have a little boy. Right? I do. Okay. And how are you carrying versus when you carried him? Are you higher or lower? Well, this is I mean, it's a different ball game. Like I feel like I didn't look pregnant and then I woke up and looked like this. I feel like the second one is just just trying to talk about it. So I'll say he or she. Got other ways. I mean, it's just it's just a different ballgame. Right? It's girl. It is. Okay. Yeah. And when you come back here and we talk about it after it's a little girl will say l. say, is girl. All right. But you did say it's a whole new ballgame, which indicates it could be a boy. It's either a girl or a boy. Yeah, yes. Yeah, I'm pretty good at guessing. Like I said. So I do think it's a girl though. Okay. Yeah. Okay. I can see it in your eyes girl. This is kind of fascinating. So so so Carrie Underwood. Is here now she had this accident. I don't know a year ago now, right where she had a fall and she injured herself and she had fifty stitches or something like that. It's not. That's not new news while ago. A really bad accident. Ellen didn't totally know much about it really didn't know that it happened until we explained it to her. Right and Ellen and Carey talked about this accident. I thought in a really interesting way. Hey, can I ask you about the the accident you had because I don't know about it. I really all I know is that you had an accident and because I don't read magazines and stuff. So I really all I know is you had an accident and that you had to get stitches. And that's all I know how many stitches did you have to get. Forty to fifty in this region. Wow. Well, that region looks beautiful. Yeah, you look amazing. So you've bell. You fell down steps of steps a little bit, even more embarrassing. Would you tripped on the lip of step or something? I kind of tripped before I got there, and then the step was kind of the problem if it had been slack ground, I would've been find hit lake without protecting. You went right face first into I went to catch myself and I barely missed a step and then kind of jammed my hand in there and hit my my face. Wow. So were you and your teeth? Okay. And everything? Right to get a little something done, but I get knocked your teeth to know just to the bottom was it was an easy little thing. Yeah, I was. I was glad. Yeah, at least we will loan when it happened. My son was asleep upstairs. So you were by yourself? Yeah. And so what did you just called? Nine one one right away. Did you did you look in the mirror? Do you see? Like I just kind of went inside and I didn't realize how bad it was feel like anytime anything happens, you journal it or something you just don't really. You don't really know. You take a second to assess. And. I had just have great people around me. So I had somebody come pick me up and take me. And we, of course, somebody came over to look at my kid, right? Watch him firmly important. And everybody just kind of sprung into action, man. Oh, man. Well, you look fantastic. And I'm so sorry, that must have been so scary too, because when you have blood, you don't really know what the extent is. Yeah, I mean it was it was. It was one of those random things you know in in life feel like we, we all kind of have some unexplainable, randomness that happens sometimes and feel good. Now I heard you say that you were going to look different, but do you think you look different because you don't look different? I feel like I do a little bit my my biggest worry at the time was that if I, if I say nothing, then later on, I feel like people are going to people pick apart. I mean, you know what? That's like just kind of being under microscope and I was like, I feel like people are going to say, what has she done two or so elective Lii and I definitely wasn't toys. Right? But you know, it's I feel feel feel close to myself feel pretty close to normal. Well, I think you look. Great. Thank you. So for the record, she looked beautiful. She looked the same. She does beautiful as she has. She knows every fifty something stitch right. And she, she looked exactly like Carrie Underwood to me the except now she's pregnant. So now she's, she looks exactly like pregnant, Carrie Underwood. An Ellen had a lot of questions and Carrie Underwood answered all of them. So car HOGAN sees a video of Ceylan Allen reviewing a little recipe and Ellen just loved him. And now Kaelin has his own show. It's called Kaelin. 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Oliver Hudson

Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum

1:20:35 hr | 3 months ago

Oliver Hudson

"You're listening to inside of you with Michael. Rosenbaum. Hi Ryan. I'm Michael Guitar Hero Cook I was thinking of I just I was trying to. I was trying to figure out how to play the the theme song. It's been so long. It's my pawn view come on you're listening to. ABC. Yeah, I like that new one maybe we record that me and Ryan singing. Singing the theme song. People would be upset I'm always weirded out by because you you learn to Qatar differently some always like. Does that, but you just learn backwards. Well, it makes sense because I am kind of backwards we meet me or obviously been listening I'm a little. More backwards. I play upside down guitar it's how I learned. I do kind of everything asked backwards probably life in general but you know it's funny about that song. If somebody really learn that song I don't like that song in other people are like you know some fans or listeners they play the song they. kind of a staple I guess I don't know how do we keep it and we did we do new song. What do you guys think you could write in? So get rid of that shit or whatever good I like that you're wearing the inside of Umass I tell you still do you like it comfortable you can be honest. Nice. I mean I'd rather not wear masks but sure. This is the world we live in. So I mean as far as Moscow it's great great I like hearing that March Yeah Merch it's all in the merge store. It's new mugs I just had to order new mug someone sold out So I said, hey, autograph the mud Blah Blah. So those sold out. So we ordered more and there's a bunch other stuff new stuff on the. Inside he store but do did you feel the earthquake? King yes. What happ-, what did you do? So wherever you are in the country, if you're not in L. A. or the area that I'm in, you didn't experience this but if you did, I, have I have had experience with earthquakes remember one night ninety, nine to two thousand one maybe whatever it wasn't California my friend day was crashed and I was running a little place in studio city. And I. Remember when it really rattled and he always tells a story. All he heard was there's nothing silence after and I got many. Here's. Steve. Yeah. Did and I'm like. What do we do? So got onto the door frame. I. Think that's kind of you're supposed. Do it yeah I mean because I lived here during the ninety four, one Sherman oaks horrifying. we hid under a table in the hall. That's what I remember doing. Well. So this one, the other night it wasn't wasn't what how did you react? Well, it sound like a meteor I was startled awake. and. Then I have this old TV as on my dresser. And like it's it's kind of big. So that's like the first thing top over and Amanda was sleeping next to me so like half asleep. It just sort of like like she'll over her I was like but I was also like not awake enough to realize that anything was happening. So it was like, but in my subconscious I was trying to be hero, but then I really wanted to sleep. Yeah. Well, my friend Zander I I know I was we were watching horror movie via zoom last night and he was like Carrie an I his wife. Loved them both. It was the weirdest thing because I don't know what it's called. I think he had a name for the got up jolted up and they were both nauseous and like almost throwing up and they're like, wow, I didn't have that. But what I did is I. Deep Sleep and I don't have I'm not lucky enough to have someone sleeping next to me. In fact, my dog doesn't even sleep next to me anymore. Either of them I guess you know you blame them. But. I was out of a deep sleep just whole. It was a little. Over that sound and I I. Remember I've got to the door frame I I i. ran to the dog and Blanche was like Oh. My God. I was like all right stay there at the door frame and I remember I got that voice back from two thousand one I was like. Lord. Lord. Now I don't have any control here, I Just you know, hey, I make a quick. You. Know it was it was it was terrifying. And you gotta think you're California and you live in California now I grew up in Indiana. But we always have tornadoes I remember tornadoes in Indiana seeing to funnel clouds that we call them funnel clouds tornadoes freaking out more than my God seeing these things in the backyard about. A quarter of a quarter of a mile away I was like, oh my gosh, I have no idea how you guys deal with that Yeah, and I've had a lot of friends I had a friend who lost his dad to the people's houses I mean you hear all that stuff but This one you got to think that the big California one's coming. You GotTa, think you know I. It's do you hope it's not you know there's going to be one know there's going to be another one a big one es what we keep being told and. then. There was a brush fire that day was a brushfire helicopters dropping. Where I live and I'm like my Buddy Harlan, you know dumb and dumber the cop that picks guys drinking semi GRANDPA's cough medicine. He leaves a voice memos part I don't know if you noticed but choppers around they're dropping water and whatever shit they drop and It's Kinda right near you sober look. I. Don't know what's going to happen, but you might WanNa, grab your laptop or your belongings. And I'm like what is going on earthquake this morning brushfire covid all that's going on in the world I'm thinking. I mean is it i? Guess it's normal to think is this You start to think about you gotta we can't think like that. You can't live in the future no I. Talk about that. You just gotTa go hey. What do you got? What do you got thrown at me and I'm going to do the best I can to deal with it and you hope that it just things get better I, mean look let's life. You have these highs you have these lowe's you have these. But. The things you can't control or the toughest right. The things that you know you can't control death, you can't control you know. Earthquakes. Or tornadoes or so. You know, and then I just heard that a friend's dad died my other friend close friend stag colder went to the hospital had pneumonia. He's doing better now. I also big a big shoutout to Mr Lalli Tom Wylie senior I. Love Yet. Mister. Lally. Your fantastic human being and I'm wishing you the best and. He knows that because they texts no. Rosenbaum. All Right Mike you know it's so cliche and people do that when something tragic happens or but it's pretty easy to just. Text somebody or call somebody to say I want you to know I. Love You. That's it. That's it. It's good for everyone I immediately did that with my siblings I don't talk to a ton. And my brother who hadn't talked to in a while said, you know text me something really nice and it was. It was nice. It was almost like self deprecating sort of like, Hey, I know I've sort of been a little bit of a fuck up whatever Melbourne and he said something that was kind of profound and. I'm, not GONNA say it probably as profoundly as he texted to me, but it was nice So Yeah, look also shot up for getting gas. This is a fantastic as I say that but. Also, you guys know you heard a million times whatever you could do support the podcast you're doing it by listening. But if you're here for this guest, only subscribe Listen Watch on Youtube it's all free to do that, and if you WANNA join Patriot which by the way, my patriots are the reason why we're doing the show because supporting the podcast and other ways and you know there's a bunch of great stuff that I I give like certain tears get questions with me and inside of me and I created a character that talks to me like a female version of me. An. Australian. If that's what you WANNA call it. His accent goes in and out but he asks me questions from the patrons in those. I, create these some home alone because you're not here a lot and create these characters that talked to me and ask me questions that's all part of that and then. Some here's get to ask the guest questions called Shit Talk, and so this is from my patriot. This is so and so we zooms there's a bunch of shits great start this community. There's a huge amount of friendships that have been created. So patriots inside of you Patriot if you haven't heard of a check it out, I think you'll love it supports the podcast and and just. Texture friends email your friends to listen or watch or in subscribe and support the podcast at inside you podcast on Instagram at inside the pod on twitter. So I wanNA thank them in a big shoutout. We did a stage at ROB dancing and I. We're trying to make a new album. So we do the stage at these performances on stage at and tons of people come common the top bidder or whatever two lovely ladies Vicky Garcia, and Lisa. Jordan I WanNa give you my love right now Vicky. Garcia Lisa Jordan top bidders. Thank you so much and thanks for supporting our music and WanNa make an. Lastly I will say this. If it wasn't for this podcast which I almost quit many times in the beginning we weren't getting anybody listen has what am I doing i? Mean this is just a a blow to the EGO. No one gives a shit and then I just stuck with it and I'm so glad I did because and the music I really started two years ago and the Patriots starts six months ago. But if I wasn't doing these things. I would have you doing now I wouldn't be looking at this inside of you pillow that. Kristen and Leeann made for me. With all the names of the gas in these pillows and but I wouldn't be doing you know. So it's all the love and support and and you know when I talk about, I mean there's some podcasts that are huge. You know that just in some podcasts there but I think everybody nowadays, all these celebrities says the Cova they're starting podcasts, other podcasters. So there's a lot to listen to and I'm like you know to be able to come back and listen to me and support me in this podcast and US Ryan and Bryce it's really it's amazing and I'm so grateful and I'm glad I stuck with it and it's growing. And it makes me happy. So again, thank you, Ryan I've said it before I'll say it again. Welcome. Glad you stuck with it. Yeah. Yeah. I am too I mean what the fuck would I be doing this guest is someone I've known for a while also you should know he's the only one that you see. In person that I've been doing done zooms now he was in person because we did it months ago because we didn't we just punching a row at the end, of January, beginning of February and we just have been, and then when Kobe hit, we decided to do some zoom zoom sorta held onto this one for held on like you know this could go on for a long time longer than we anticipated. So Yeah. So this is you'll see him but he's not wearing a mask because this way before code so. He's a great guy. I didn't. I didn't know him that well other than just kind of really friendly. But Man, he opens up man he opens up so much about his biological father in his in Kurt Russell who raised him and Goldie and it was you know I didn't expect this interview to be more than fifty minutes and then went longer because I was so interested in him and you so open and fun and I loved. I love talking to them. I really loved the I think be here at my voice while we're as it goes on. So Oliver. Hudson he's he's been in a lot of stuff you you know his sister Kate, they have a podcast and Let's get into it. I think you're GonNa really dig this Let's get inside of Oliver. Hudson it's my pawn. Listening to you inside of you with Michael Rose by A. Inside of you with Michael Rosenbaum was not recorded in front of a live studio audience. How do we know each other I'm pretty sure that I went out with your wife Yeah. A long long time ago and I really liked her and she dumped me in someone else then met you and then you got married yeah. I left the house she was at the House is like I'm GonNa talk about Rosenbaum and your relationship did you say that's Don't don't bring it up didn't have a released. A minute to you know what it was. It was one of the first time in my life not the I I've had a lot of these moments where I am just intimidated by a woman she was. So I felt she was like nobody's perfect but I thought she was beautiful. Smart and cool and don't folk the and I just. And that's why I'm single. That's why I think a lot of confidence is not because of Aaron now. She's she's amazing. You missed out you blow I mean you. Don't know what happened. But happy she came into my world because woman is, did you know right away or perfect right away? Yeah. Well, you know how it is man like we met actually don't say wb an acting class goes home. It's worse you know. But I had a girlfriend who's dating Vanessa Shaw Remember Vanessa Shaw? No she was an actress route from checks. She live right up here and we were friends for a minute and then she dated Simon. Rex. For about six months. Well, I thought that's what right after me Simon today yes it was something he's way better luck. He's got a great bodies Italian look on his face as got. Looking. Damn it. Looks these limits American but at the time tally look on, it's such a good looking. So she did him for six. Months and then we got together. But like anything else when we first got together, of course, she was great I didn't know her but she was just sexy shit and I wanted to see her naked. That's really what it was. Let's be honest and then we got. We made it happen and was that I mean it was good. I. Was Concerned at first you aren't good. Yeah were quick. Y-. Yeah. Yeah. WHO WOULDN'T BE QUICK? It was quick. I'm all the time I've been married for nineteen years and I'm still quick sometimes it's wrong with that. You know what I say here's what I say Ryan there's nothing wrong. A look at a woman if that happens and I just go because someone told me this works I go compliments to you. And then she's like that's not gonNA work. No fucking during your forties you shouldn't becoming. Donna Dude I mean I I swear to God I've been with Aaron for nineteen years and sometimes I don't I feel I don't know what happens the she said comes in and I'm like Holy Shit slow down what is it? You think with premature ejaculation what what what I think may I can speak for myself but man I think are very visual. Super Visual. The minute. I. Get into the zone and I see it all happening. Shit. Yeah. That's happening right now and I can see everything isn't that something and I'm like it's all beautiful and hot and I'm like, okay. Don't look look away or something that is a beautiful vagina and your penis is in. No and by the way, your penis penises never looked better. Oh, because the the lighting is. A Nice Sheen. Shaft of Moonlight Shaft. Out. It's real I mean those visuals did I I'm glad you you. You go early. Yeah. I mean not all the time she loves you. She's good with it. He's to give me a he's GonNa do do a better thing I think men. Men have a misconception though men think that women just want to have sex for hours that is just not the case and it won't be the case of their dating will. Good. That's how lets. You promote your premature. I can never do I can never Ha- if you're a woman out there and you're thinking Oh, man Rosenbaum's kind of cute. I'm going to have sex with them. Just know you'll never have hours of sexy. Want standards counting cumulatively in a decade and then you're going to get. You're going to get a maybe a couple of hours. But not. Go ahead in the moments that things are going really well to well, actually well for me were on like I'm in zone now I can I can last forever long. I. Want which happens. Aaron is like, okay. Let's get this fucking over with put some. Put some. Jennifer Aniston friends. She's She's done she shoot. Eight to eight eleven minutes and then boom you watch any porn we used to. Does that mess up things now? No No, no no. No. I don't watch porn anymore. Personally I I quit I don't need I mean adequate. Seldom I. I quit about a year and a half and you see quit like you're an addict I wasn't an actual addict, but it was. It was it. I do use it to self soothe meaning like I'm bored one trying to do right now. Oh, I'll jerk off it's going to pass the time and much like smoking a cigarette I quit that as well. Yeah I don't smoke either. So why smoked I was like you know especially on movie sets, TV sets it was like, okay in between takes what am I gonNA do now onboard I'll smoke a cigarette the same jerking off dude jerking off it was like, okay I'm home alone for an hour and a half two hours to what? Am I gonNA do even while you're married you're jerking off yeah. Ninety more though Dude I have let me tell you something tell me Since November of last year I have jerked off probably. I know ten, thirteen, one a year, a year about a Oh just over here. I just. I, I don't WanNa. Say something. I'm sort of done with by the way I'm not trying not right. I'm not trying not to I just had no desire. My sex with Aaron is on fire. All right. See this is this is you look I. I'm not saying this to just make you feel better because he's not that you need feel your first of all you're married you have three kids you have a great life you're working you're getting laid. You're doing all these great things. So yeah. I yeah, I. Wish. I. Was in your shoes. I. Really Do. I, I've never been a jerk offer Off. Jerk off I remember I just never I mean I'm sure jerked off a little bit in college. Yeah. But I've never been one that like I got a master Ba it just it was one of those things where we're like now it's been a couple of weeks since she got laid it's like, yeah. All right. I'll Jirka. The problem with me is I get. So, sometimes, it just like I'm surrounded jerk off and I'm thinking that I think I just heard right washes done. You get distracted I got to put the clothes in the dryer right dog on them maybe some. Down there. Now, just a big limp it's hard. It's slink terrible. You get distract circuit. Forget it forget it I. Agree I just when I was younger I was when I had I, got mono in. Mono a couple of years ago. So the Mono Dude I'll tell you about that. I've me out man Justin Bieber, you see that happen yeah. Well, go ahead. Oh I had mono and and I was home for fucking two months. He's Goff you had the strength. I I was so bored I jerk off like ten times a day. Mine. I can sit on the couch and get hard I mean that's that's easy. Yeah I'm sleepy Agnes still jerk off the I didn't get mono when I was a kid in so. Because I didn't have you know this is called the kissing disease, which is kind of bullshit and you can get it off the lip balm and get off whatever Fight or flight for so long because I was I was stressing myself out not being able to deal with stress. That I. was lead on the show and then I was trying to stand up in front of crowds, big comedians and I'd never done it and I was in a band for the first time performing on stage I just did everything at once and I was not when I say fight or flight I was perpetually consistently in heart heart heart heart heart like always nervous like always on edge going up till two in the morning getting back home. and. Something happened just the perfect storm I was I was in Germany I came back and I went to the doctor and. It took me they go look for adult mono. Mono. Take you. OFF ON. But I'm telling you for adults over a year for me to really start to feel my who I am again see Epstein Barr as well. Right? I mean because I Ask thing but it was brutal like high mercury and I had like real shit like I got I didn't believe it because I was like I don't have. Then they thought fucking lime disease so they sent me. One of my friends go to the slime specialist. So I went to the slime specialist. She goes you have line then I went to another lime special you have Lima Mike Fuck this I know I don't have lime she's giving me penicillin shots in my ass how do you know you don't have it when you have to doctors tell you leaders I'm not saying lime disease is a hoax because it's not but there's a lot of doctors out there that kind of just like Oh. Yeah. Your your results. So the first thing I did was went to my general practitioner again, I said listen man. There's no way I have fucking mono and lyme disease and but. Some fucking Shit I I've never been bitten I. Don't. He does I'm GonNa send you to the Infectious Diseases Center over at Cedars. Great. I'm excited about that. And I went there. I was one of the heads and he looked through every the booklet of all these tests. You know. Me Tell you something. You could listen to me or not. I don't think you have lines e. Mono I think you're tired I think you're GONNA get better. I don't want you to take these tests anymore if you took a lot of these tests that they're they're giving you. I would show a positive and some of these tests a lot of people would be the. Line. Move on with your life. Yeah and I did and from that day I started getting better. Oh, I'm not saying limes fake. If they say, you have lime. Go to a specialist disease control and the line people will say, no doctors say it's bullshit. And some do, but this guy goes I've seen lime I've seen it I believe it I don't think you have line and we had auto auto immune autoimmune disease of some sort I just saw or whatever was fuck man who the hell are you supposed to believe any of these days? You know I mean who knows man but I hit a wall and it was scary because you able to work. To Function I. Mean, how did you know I was I was pretty fucked man I was like, i. couldn't I think I did some things but I was like I'm not at my best I don't have the competence because I always feel going to be too tired. How am I going GonNa Finish this I just I still functioned where I tried to sleep and I. Try to watch movies and read and my friends did something but I felt so self conscious like I know I look like shit I know I don't look like myself. I know they're looking at me like I feel no looking at me and they're just being nice and some of my friends just be like dude man you look like Shit like fuck why am I going out? Like did he did he give you any anxiety? That's fucking hit a wall. I think that's started the whole thing that we're. Kind, of just went home shit. Dude. Exciting Well, I mean I I went in my twenties. I had a year of debilitating anxiety like. Lose my shit can't leave the house every time. I love how I was throwing up. You know I was still trying to be an actor. I was just sort of getting started. About auditioning nervous leveling I didn't know so it it hit me actually. I was with my friend John going into crazy girls of all places. Right? Is that a department store a department store on Fairfax and they handed. Department Store. which was owned previously by slash or something. Now knows the dude who is the this is going to be the worst weather explaining this guy. Crazy goes he was the deputy cop and scream David our cats and I think he owned one of those. Not. Believe you describe David Arquette the deputy. Hired, you describe fucking God it out you describe him. would. You have said he's married. Guy Other of course you can yeah exactly. No our cat. Anyway. So I'm walking in and he my friend John is in front of me and my heart just out of nowhere explodes or so I think beating boom it put me on a knee because. I. Heart attack and I was like John and he didn't hear me and I took five minutes outside I didn't die and I was gathering myself I went in I had a Fahd car I was like I need something I don't know what the fuck just. Yeah and I was like I gotta get Outta here. Something's weird that started. Almost, a year of intense anxiety to where I would wake up every day and feel like I couldn't breathe. All that I would know outside and throw up and I was surfing a lot of the time, but I was not going to let it affect my life. So I would go out into a go under the lineup and fucking throw up and stuff but try to catch waves and and then I was I was I was still trying to be an actor so I was going to fucking hiding it because. It was so intense meditation. Writing in journals and then I got through most of it and then there was still a little edge and then took antidepressants I was I took Selecta was on selects a for a while what is so excellent selects anti-depressant. Go selects a can you? Turn on the radio. It's depressing antics anti anxiety, right? It's it's an it's called an antidepressant. It's an S. SRI. It's an uptake serotonin uptake inhibitor right? I think I took something have a depression, but it was good for my to take the edge off of my work of Dude Fuck you still on. No. So I got off of that and then I I was working in Nashville for two years away from kids on the show Nashville. Just, had my third kid. Rio. Ten days old and a half to go for two years to fuck in Nashville. So now I'm flying back and forth every chance doing Zayed. Took a toll and then I had another moment and fuck it's back, Oh dude I had a Bouma had freak out and. Shit I didn't I didn't I went onto LEXA pro. And so now I'm on Alexa pro weaning off it's been three years. Things are good. So I'm China just sort of. Triggers. I'm getting. So it's different for people but I think like for me when you're not sleeping enough when you're flying too much when you're not taking care yourself not exercise when you're allowing yourself. If all these things if you're not doing all these things, then you know you can't fight off the stuff. Do you totally the food there was? Two different reasons why in the two separate parts of my life, the first one was just trying to be an actor in my early twenties. My Mom's a movie star my Dad's a movie star. Kate is now a movie star and I am trying to fucking do this. I'm not putting my all into it at all I am just sort of that point dude. But still I have put this expectation in this pressure on myself and it's just not going well but I was not I wasn't going full speed because the harder you try the further it is to fall. You know if I study for an audition with an inch of its life and I go and I fucking bomb. That's going to hurt if I don't study and I just go hung over and read the lines in my cars. I'm going to the audition and I don't get it fuck. I didn't try of an excuse good right and that's where I was in the ladder and then it just caught up to me in through therapy and through meditation and my journal Writing It all came into it all came into view as to why this was happening to me at this time of sort of like a quarter life crisis, you know I think John Mayer. May, be. Alive. Georgia's Judge? Joe. Why Says a quarter life president is ever heard it before then I didn't even know. Yeah but now we're in our MIDLIFE. Crisis. That's right and I kind of had I also think just communication domain. There was a lot that I held in my later years going to Nashville. You know it's just the authenticity you know holding shit in not being truthful to yourself to people around you. Not being expressive, not being vulnerable the way I should be vulnerable. I mean all of these things being away from my family I. think that's what led to the certain what's happening right now I'm GonNa be honest with you. I knew you were coming in here excited and senior while always liked you genuine dude always liked you. We didn't hang out really. Bad. Moment we had a we had. Some last but just you know yeah. But now just twenty minutes into this I just I'm learning so much and I and I I just I love that you're so open about this shit because this is less important. Do I fuck everybody else listening? It's really about me That's right. It's ringing in my ears like the. Talked about this other pockets but this is I think we're all listening we're going. You're giving US little things. Maybe it's just one thing we learned from. You you're being so open about how you'd be your anxiety that when something's not working for someone else and go Oliver Hudson did this journaled. Feeling and he did this and this maybe I'll give that a shot maybe I'll try and that's really the key is to just do whatever it takes totally, and by the way I've always been an open book and I think it's important. Now that's why love what you're doing I love what we're doing in the space right thank you. It's time to fuck and. Tell the truth I. Think we can how you can help people with your truth, your authenticity who gives a fuck what people think you know what I mean like that's what I'm getting over was gonNA listen to right now and say, Oh, my God oliver headings diety or Oliver took antidepressants I mean I don't give a fuck I mean that stuff does not affect. By the way, the fact that you're saying that now I'm not sure I believe you completely why not now? I'd believe that you care what everyone else thinks hey, on less than me but I'm not sure you're completely like it doesn't somehow affect you. Okay. You're not wrong. Wrong when it comes to the stuff that we were just talking about in my personal life and the things that I believe in. Or my true you don't give I. Don't give a fuck. Okay. Okay. I'm with you now as a performer as an entertainer as an actor as I do and that has been my downfall to as an actor is that I have not touched my potential because fear of fear one, hundred percent how? Do we get over that and twenty, four, th birthday Kurt my Stepdad, Kerr Russell Right. He pulls me in and this is right when I started acting I mean I was twenty, one, twenty, two, twenty, four is when I got my first GIG and I was going to do this job in my one of my first big jobs and I was so scared and so nervous, and by the way I still get. So fucking nervous when I go work course, it makes me crazy I would be so great if I didn't have to do no but it's part of you I don't tell me apartment. Yeah. I'm so with you, I don't give me the party of you use it bullshit I don't they just let me be free and then I'll be good. Right but he told me because here's the thing. The talent is all there. The problem is with you. He was you just have to stop giving a shit what people think about you. and. It's true but that's him. Okay and this is what I learned. Later on I was always for ten years trying not to give a shit I'm trying not to give a shit because Kurt truly doesn't give a shit about what people think about him in the acting space and my brother Wyatt Russell Right. Now, player goal goalie he's he's an actor fucking a crushing it right now his competence doesn't give us through the roof. He doesn't give a shit he's I'm going to do it the way I want to do it, and if you don't think it's good I don't give a shit. I tried to emulate that the problem is the realization I had was that's not an inherently that's not who I am that's on your makeup. That's who these people are but that's not who I am in once I, recognize that it was sort of liberating in a way. It's okay to give a shit, but just don't let it brilliant rule you right. You can care you know but there's a way to sort of curb the anxiety around that caring so much and expertise what I have to say this I was selfishly thinking while you're talking Oh. My God Kurt had a conversation with Kurt Russell Snake Plus Kim and he looked at him and he said words of wisdom don't give a shit and from then on Oliver ruled the world and then I was Gonna say. Kirk can have this conversation with me. Through my fucking psychotic mind if it works for you. Okay so but it didn't and. Discover myself right because you this is this is basic fucking. Education. This is be yourself. The niche translates to every job every this is who you are Ryan if you're shy and awkward which you are. Yeah I can sense that who gives a fuck your brilliant. I've seen his shit he's brilliant look at his youtube videos and he just he hasn't even scratched the surface I know this guy do right now he's working with me and hopefully for a while you know. Tell you what though now? But I think that there's like, Hey, Rosie, your little spastic urine neurotic. You're looking at your genes did you come from manic depression and crazy shit and valium induced rages and all this whatever. Yeah like. But this is who you are. Yeah you. Try to be as healthy as you can. And you know what? If you fall apart every once in a while it's okay. So I'm with you when you say the anxiety stuff and this, I am much better. I don't care talk about it openly about me GonNa Wellness Center median that faulk and please but when it comes to certain things. Like you know just offer this movie I'm like I don't think I can do it. I don't think I could do it right now I don't think I can learn one hundred pages of lines in two weeks and then go. And somebody who you want learn two hundred pages you just go the night before I don't work like that I'm a stress myself to the fucking dead. Time to prepare and be fucking great. Yep. I will freak myself out not knowing lines give me a fucking ear wig whatever. There's all this shit that comes with it. Maybe I should embrace maybe a rosy your fucking, right yeah. Why would you put yourself through hell for that? Yeah. Why? Do you podcast yeah. Wait for the right thing. nope. You show talk to people go to some cons enjoy life why kill yourself? Yeah. Yeah. Unless somebody can just fix me or but but no no no. But if you're running away from it because of of those fears and that's not the right place to be I don't think you know what I mean like if this movie is a good movie and it's a great character and it's something that you want to do. But the idea of going to do it makes you nervous and now you're not going to do it because of those other things like Chicago dead of winter outside you know is their money. That's surgeries not. The guys good rider. Other movie a probably will right. He doesn't listen to this listen to they'll know that I respect them by the way lines you memorization of lines. That is the biggest problem for me. Made me. It's not about whether I'm good actor or not. It's like, oh. My God. Can I remember the lines and if I don't everyone's GonNa think this fucking guy doesn't know his lines and now are not going alone John Deere is. About the lines. Though, is it real? Can you do you have muscle memory where it becomes easier? Now becomes easier. It becomes easier and it's also again sort of saying you know what? Here's what I tell myself. We're all here to do a job on this movie set right We need craft service for food we need grips we need. We need everyone. Everyone fucks up how many times it's like. All right. Wait wait cut we a reset this light or the DP says, this isn't working. We need I need fifteen more minutes so the. To fuck up and I'm allowed to say Oh shit. Sorry guys. I'm going on my line six times fi I know that but there is a part of me that. Wants, this is what I have to change it. Just making me realize there's a part of me. That I'm never late in the hit my marks every time I come in uneven need my script I read it fucking. No, it early one rehearse. Let's fucking shoot it and I know it inside out and put so much pressure myself. I fucking live it, and then I do it. That I don't WanNa fuck up my feel lost out there like I don't know these lines. That is terrifying to me. That is like dropping the ball your failure. They're all GonNa see through your Shit your parachute I remember there was one taking a movie that took me thirteen takes to say saline because I was. So my head that I couldn't even think of the line I could not even think that just stop for a second breathe think about it didn't matter what the line wasn't wasn't coming out like it came out somehow. God jumped in my body for second. He helped me out at that moment in this movie that made no money. He helped me. I know that when you just go completely blank I have a story about that I was doing a Sitcom engagement engagement right for seven s live audience and I was we were well into the series I. Forget what season it was. There was a scene. Patrick Warburton. Right. Right and I had to do the scene right center stage in front of the whole fucking audience to three hundred people that well, however many people. I forget the line okay. I forget it again. Now it's in your head in my head, and now I'm done. And there's no one there to save me. No, the the executive producer writer director, no-one said what let's just give it a second or every I was I was just twisting in the wind I realized in that moment that I had to take this into my own hands because the audience now went from laughing that I fucked up a line they do to now it's quiet. Now I'm six takes in and I cannot get these lines out, and now everyone is feeling for me and it's it's to take two or three. You probably already thinking that moment's GonNa call one hundred percent or they come in now. Yeah I'M GONNA fuck it up again you're already anticipated. It was like a page and a half seen hitting marks running around all four cameras rolling finally I said all right and I took control of everything because I couldn't deal with it anymore said, here's what's going to fucking happen I lost I. Snapped you did I said Okay Bianca who's my co stars like go let's start to seen cameras you fucking rolling keep rolling. Let's go you ready Scriptures rise. WHAT'S TO BE? She tells me the line. I do the thing I. I do whatever. My Sitcom e thing is I hit the mark. Move the cameras I know we're repositioning. What's the next line? Tells it to me I did it in four parts and just went through it like that and said, hey tell me the line. Okay. Okay. Great Baba Blah Blah Blah. Blah. Finished it up I. We're done. That's it. We`ll Go my God. Oh, well, audience started to CL- cheer. It was there was a release of some sort on finally. fucking right exactly. Right. But it was that moment of I am so fucked and they're all I had to I had to save myself. It was desperation time. No one was reaching out to me and saying Oh dude let's just all you want like ten minutes. Ten minutes. Ten minutes. Thank straight is more. You're going to do. This is what I would have done and I think this this happened like in a lot. I was doing a Sitcom. And I said the Line Bob and my dad was there that that's a big thing because like you know, yeah talk about feeling like a failure and So I'm there and I do this thing and ago Rosie. Let's do that again and I. I stumbled and I was like and the directors like all right cool. Ribbon on and I knew I didn't care I'm like I don't care if he's moving I don't care if it sucked move on I don't give a fuck you know and I think in that situation I might have been like you know guys we can always pick this up when you're not here. You know the seen you've seen it we're going to pick it up after the show. I'm not going to hold up your time because I don't know my Goddamn. Lock. Make a joke and be done with it. Take to we're going to do it afterwards. I'm not doing it now that's what's happening. They will listen to you. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Why don't we get the terrified? Because because we care we care. Yeah. But we came we care too much. I think I just care what I care, how people perceive me. 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How many times in interviews over your life has it and it's a one or two you talk about the precious you talk about you know your twenty here's Kate has this huge success and here's my my dad's Kurt Russell, and my mom's Goldie Hawn it's like of course it's like how are you not gonNA compare and goes yeah I guess I should be a movie star that easy should just be a movie store and you're working and all these things. Sure. But the thing is it's not what I wanted to do I mean I I wanted to make movies like Produce Drek produce, right? That's what I did when I was a kid while Kate was doing plays I had cameras and filters and Squibb's and blood and fucking latex or movie I love you know. Harm I. Love I. Really would I know horror series right now in our young good. Oh, due to talking about the FRY, but it is. It is not I loved. I loved all that Shit I grew up on on horror. And that's what I did, and then I went to college for two years left Boulder. I was just going to kill myself that I was just drinking and skiing pretty much. Then I I worked at a P. A, for two years production assistant on movies, and then I went in an sec summer intensive thing which was really fun and then I was like I don't know what the Fuck I'm GonNa do for you know you were good looking because I remember seeing you when I was you and I was like guys really cute. Cute. Guide. And then Cook. Guy. So you had looks Amine MOMS Goldie Hawn was bill Hudson good looking Guy Yeah. You don't talk to my that. Right there's nothing we do now do a little bit. Yeah I, mean I. It's a crazy story I. Mean I I was. I was working in New Orleans and it was father's Day and I posted something with my six dark sense of humor and it was a picture of my sister and my dad and myself and happy times and I the caption was happy abandonment day and I thought it was funny I still think it was funny. But but you couldn't talk to them how long Oh ever I've inside and seen him thirteen fourteen years. Thought that bill, Hudson was on the INSTAGRAM wasn't. But what happened was is the press, picked it up, and then it caught fire and then it all went viral and then of course, because my sister is Mr. She got included into the whole thing. The comments on my that just fucking started stacking up I it turned into this whole thing being nicer people kind of both. Yeah. Both supportive and Both, both and then and I was like Oh shit. I was just trying to be funny. You know your mom was funny I mean she was like Oliver. Did one of those and Kate same thing kate was like, what are you doing I'm like I don't know just trying to make. Again. I'm forty three. When this happened this was I was a Thirty nine it wasn't, Largo. Recently Ish. Right. Right. So Dad comes out with an article on like the Daily Mail saying I you know the my kids are dead to me and I mean he he was very hurt by it because he had heard about it he's on instagram. and. Then I wrote him attacks I got his number and wrote him a long text and It wasn't mean but it it was it was stern and I apologize. But didn't in a way you know I said look who are you to be? Me You have been. Saying like who are you to be angry about this dad let's get real for a fucking second. and lead to a phone call, which was a three hour phone call, which was really your. Phone. Call no tears but it was. You know it was I I sort of put him on the witness stand you know what? I mean. I was just grilling him. It was just talking about my life and. Everything and I'm a I'm a man now no longer even in my twenties when we were when we talked last I mean things are different. It was a great conversation I finished this job I went back to L.. A.. And had an amazing breakfast with it. Patrick's roadhouse. What was that like? You haven't seen. Crazy, I mean were you? Before it a little bit. Yeah. But but I was I felt strong You know it was interesting I. I I went from being sort of well I made myself the victim really even through my childhood because. As a kid, you think you did something wrong and you think it's your fault obviously in the sort of after school special way. But you know you know it's not but now, I felt different I. Felt like I was in the power seat and I was able to go and talk to me. And I went in there did you give them a hug? Yeah. Yeah. I went in there. He had long scraggly hair. White Beard, and I was like Oh my God and he and I and you know I'm getting older now and I was like, Holy. Shit look just like this. Fucker I mean, it was the is that. What he looks like the is I mean and I gave him a big hug and we had breakfast and it was an amazing talk and then we sat outside Patrick's roadhouse smoked a pack of cigarettes together, which was amazing. and. Even that was part of the Catharsis I mean just just with your dad that you've never had. It was beautiful. We connect on on a really interesting level. He was opening up to me about certain things in his life you know you know his his dad bailed on him in the middle of the night when my dad was five years old. So he was destined to repeat this pattern. He missed it by ear. Yeah you were four nine. I, but he was destined because I i. was I knew that this fuck me up at a young age I wanted to get help I wanted to figure my shit out. So I didn't do this again to my children he didn't have that luxury. Different time therapy was in a different place. He didn't have a chance and he said a lot of things about my mom and a lot of Ice Yell Yeah Yeah Really Nice and it was an amazing. It was an amazing. You forgave him. Oh. Yeah. Big Time and then we went out to moon shadows about three months later and then drank a ton of beer and that's when it got emotional. Actually he started get emotional and we were just we went from. Hammering Shit out to some resolution to hammered hammered exactly to now actually just having fun and him seeing a lot of who he was in me and me seeing a lot of who I am in him. You know and it was really an amazing moment and now we have a relationship you know. So from that fucking disastrous poster seemingly disastrous post came something really beautiful. You know I commend you and I. Both really but you know I, mean there's two things I would have thought about one is like. It doesn't matter you have to figure you to let go but it's like you didn't have to repeat your fucking father what he did, but you did So it's like, what do you do so you either hold that grudge inside fuck off young. Why do I want? This is something deeper that I just want to know more I wanna like me you know when I go another thirty years or never know why not have these moments than just one moment that turned into a couple more for sure and by the way when you look at when when you really get into it, how can how can I not forgive him? How can I NOT BE COMPASSIONATE WHEN? When I look back on his life and what he went through as a kid with his mom and dad, how can I not feel for him take myself out of the equation. That's the first thing I said to him when I when I saw him, Patrick's Roadhouse I it was it was a little small talk you know and then I'm the one who was like, let's talk I mean, this is the first time. I've seen you let's talk and I said the first thing I want to say is let's just take take put aside that you're my dad and then I'm your son you and I are very similar how a very similar story. Bailed my dad bailed. We could sit here and talk as friends and fucking connect and relate right now and I feel your pain you know what I mean and so that's how it started and it was a good place to store. It was just a respect not an angry place. Yeah. Let's try to breathe through it. Let's talk. Yeah, you know. Yeah. So there's a lot I mean was your mom upset about it I mean when I went and. I know we'll get mad. They're like, oh, that piece of shit that you're just going to you've had this great father in green go talk to him but you know how people can think that Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because was it was it was it your mom who left bill I I don't even know. I think so I think so right. So I think so but. No my mom was not now my mom has always been great with the stuff. What Kate do that's a good question. My sister you know she had a different relationship with him. She was younger. You know I mean I was a boy and sort of needed that father figure. You know maybe kate took a little bit more from Kurt Than I. Did I I don't know but kate. Kate doesn't Kate not where I wasn't where I was. Totally content you know not having a relationship with him. Right. No. No but she's she there's no animosity anymore. There's no anger talk about this on sibling revelry not really no. Do you ever talk about this stuff not like this but yeah, I mean when I get into heavy conversations deep conversations with people for sure I'm not again it's like you said I'm open men I think it's import stuff. Yeah. Yeah. How candidate open you are I mean it's why not be What do I have the fucking hide you know what I mean I mean there's something so I don't want to say the only reason I wouldn't say things. Is just because I don't want other people to not want me to say them on sibling rivalry. We don't talk a lot about my mom and curd and the family dynamic. On that show. Well, yeah for us. You know there's some things that we just keep out of it because I know that. Kurt doesn't want things exposed and my mom doesn't want things exposed and I'm not saying there's anything you know secret but just our lives together that sort of Special Katie and I talk about our relationship you know deep the depth of our relationships you know and we'll get mad or on the podcast do you ever? fucking annoying no, but sometimes, I'll call her on her stuff. You know when Kate gets. Should get a little you know high and mighty, and all sort of have to knock her off her pedestal a little bit. Like, you were ever like jealous ever or like envious I'm pairing yourself like, why did she? Talking almost famous you know. One of my one of my biggest issues was comparing myself to everyone. That's an idea. If you right now is do I got the new Scorsese thing I will be happy for you but there's definitely a part of me is like fuck dude what but there's no I mean there's a difference though there's a difference if you're comparing yourself like you know that guy has it so I should have it. Done healthy right and I believe it's it's it's a learning curve with anybody. First of all, you really just genuinely feel so good when you can go I, want you to be successful. Yeah. Of course great you can. But but really when you can really feel that now feel that because sometimes I have to do that. Yeah sometimes I have to be like, oh I'm I'm so happy for you and then when I start to say it in force myself to say I'll start to feel it. Yeah. But that initial thing I'm like, okay force yourself to say it you know and then once I do then I can. I Melt a little bit but no, for sure do others competition and it's not jealousy as much as it is envy. She's had such an amazing career and even Wyatt Right now why you know from the very beginning, he busted his groin and had too many concussions and he comes home and he goes on to be an actor and he's fucking immediately at Sundance in the first year of with two movies. You talk like I'm making money and I WANNA great. Sitcom. That's doing well but there's a part of me. That is envious of their creative that they get to be a part of you know they've done amazing things with amazing people and you know why did link lighters movie everybody wants some and he was in Austin Texas for three weeks all the crew and writing with link lighter and. Kate's with Cameron Crowe and why doing all these cool independent movies with real visionaries you know yeah people who are now uber successful it's a different trajectory. People would look at me and killed to have my career worse you know but. It's it's a relatively there. I look at them and I'm you know but I want I, want. The more the more it's okay. That's okay too. But it is certainly, it's it's hard and we don't do enough where I guarantee you don't do this nearly enough. I'd say very little for you. Just sit there for a minute by herself sitting your house nobody's in the house or maybe they are maybe the three little kids the little goes. Running around they're kicking something You know Aaron's Bra I'm hoping Yeah Hope so and you Kinda Bravo. Probably. Cotton I know. But here's the problem. She's GonNa entertains but but she's been wearing these. They're like armor bras. It's like so in a padded, even though she's got beautiful big boobs you probably can remember there may got to the boobs. Incredible I mean really fantastic. All Time. Body all time rob. Schmitz she wears these sort of more padded things just to. Protect. Them and I'm Gimme the lace again, give me the soft stuff and go keep playing subliminally keep playing stevie nicks in the background leather and lace I saw you start to go subconscious David Blaine. That's a good idea you're gonNA fucking all of a sudden. I wasn't buddies. You know what I'm saying is try this. and. By the way I need to do this more and I have been. So there go. Look at me, man? At this beautiful life. He's three kids live in a nice house. I like. My parents could is relationship with my dad. got. This cool podcast meet a lot of money. START I'm not I. Know it sounds stupid. Non Start just saying these things allowed Keep, saying, and all of a sudden you're going to realize. This. This is awesome. Yeah and I think that's the more grateful we are. It's hard. It's not as easy as you think, but but it is. Yeah, it's science. Yeah. If like doing this, I'm working so hard to just go and I am I go. Hey, get a podcast. Listen it. They like it I'm on patriotic. Patrons. I have a relationship with my good relation. My friends have to great dogs I sleep in the bed the if you just start doing this, you start realizing and then when you start doing the charity and stuff you start living like. God. I'm not dying now I'm alive have got to stop comparing and worrying just live and I think that's All. I'm not. I'm not preaching. No. I need to do this by the way. This is something that everyone should do usually Ryan. Run I don't know him. He just looks like he needs to be more rainfall you need to be more. He's a Christian. Not, you're not wrong dude and. I write. Little words of gratitude every day I do do that. I. Mean Not every day but I when I have times of what the? Grinding this need more money and three kids at fucking private school I. Mean it's Gnarly. I'm like all right. What's the worst that can happen? Here's the worst I sell everything and moved to fucking Colorado. I'll be happy you know. The worst thing is I hate to say it but think about it because you know this is GonNa Airway later but. Kobe Bryant I now. Do the stallions dollars has everything. Yeah. Gone I. Know like that. So horribly, you really think about, and if we just take today and just let the stand do the best we can and tried have fun and try not to take things too seriously. I think that that's when our anxiety go away. You could just be happy with yourself because I am trying to be happy with myself. I just had somebody come over the house and I'm working on stuff and You know I'm always looking for a miracle. The think probably lies within me. What's your biggest like? What's your biggest issue I? Think Pain I. Deal with a lot of pain. Yeah. So actual physical. Trying to like because they've had surgeries and things and I don't talk about it. Really not. Alive? Don't. No one wants to hear it. I'm trying to learn how to deal with, but I think a lot of it is emotional. I think. Not, not, I think. Is it chronic pain? Yeah. It's chronic. It's been with me for a while, but it's it's gotten worse and. Do you know for the most part, right but is it undiagnosed pain? No I've had fusion in my neck had botched surgery at about. I've heard you talk about that on your podcast. Yeah. Like a little elegant surgery. Oh, i. had the surgery and I don't know what I'm saying is I don't sit there and go oh. My God rob. Payment I can't deal with I. Don't burden people with both all that stuff because You have all these great things. Why should you burn? Which is stupid it doesn't matter if you're a good friend, you'll fucking listening listen everybody's fucking problems. Everybody has a problem they come to me a fuck and help them I always fuck in their from me too. I'm not saying they're not there for me they are. But I think they assume that I'm just good which I should be I'm not because I'm fucking human and neurotic and I've got my shit. Yeah and I'm not always good. Yeah. You saw me at Thanksgiving break down a little bit I. Wasn't there. You didn't see it. somebody should take a moment and until you emotionally breakdown. Yeah. Just You know we'll talk about this on your fucking partner. You can't have me on there. Do you have a sibling? Brother so bring him on. ooh. That would get that would get crazy. Good would like I. Don't Know Man I. Don't know if he's willing to talk about like you know his shit we. talked him because I mean it might come up and it's like you know 'cause he's yeah, he's we we work together. He was my sister. Well. Shit happen you gotTa bring them on Dude that'd be great. I mean. It'll be great long. Closed hates to great diffuser. You know what I mean like yeah, and it's super chill like this dude. I love this I don't want this interview to in and I haven't even. Looked at the whole time, is that the pages that I kind of looked at I just want to say this what if I just went up I just want to say that I, love your mom and seems like Old Times Chevy Chase's performance that her performance now. By the way that is. One of my mother's Charles Groping. My MOM's. My favorite movie that my mom my mom has done. It seems like Old Times. It is fucking untouchable. I love it so much. As that movie, IT'S Tear up she just runs into his house. Big Smile freeze frame. I love him ended but look I mean I mean so cool it's so you know it's like a you've heard every store you've met her prime not coo for you anymore because it's like people would say, Oh my God to be Goldie Hawn and Kurt Russell. Kerr was he a good dad toya mummy he he he he changed the whole direction of my life and the whole dynamic of who I who I might have been I. mean if I if it wasn't for Kurt, I would not be the man that I am today one, hundred, percent, two percent he gave not only myself but my family Colorado which is a huge part of my life and my upbringing you know he he taught me how to be independent and how to not be afraid and to you know learn how to do things on my own and not rely on anyone else you know I mean. There's all kinds of less. That's that is just like hearing that I see a relationship with your mom and I hear this about Kirk because I. Love I. Remember went up curtain and Goldie right a party that I was at and they were just standing there and I just had seen this movie bone Tomahawk and I I just had to because I'm a horror movie Fan and just go hey, you're beautiful I, love you and Kurt Subban Talk I love you guys take care have a nice evening just wanted to say I just I don't care and like I'm not those actors really old say hi someone. Business Rash or an actor Q. Right? Here. died a Martin to fuck. You've got to cool. Yeah I fucking hate that. I, even I love stern and stern warnings they. Go Up to somebody I don't need to go up. Buddy who does bit because why not? Yeah. Yeah. Bothering them at a party just to say I love. Yeah. Whatever you. Know I agree but but your Dad I see your dad, what are you? What am I? That's it. I call them become PA, PA. Yeah. So your fucking door. He was so sweet and I was walking away goes, Hey whoa WHOA will come equipment. I love bone Tomahawk to let's talk about this. No did you like it? And I go. Because I thought it was really funny. And then got explosively dark and I got caught up in these characters had no idea it was going to and we used to start talking for like twenty minutes about this. Awesome and he was just. So that's cool man that's actually interesting because that doesn't sound like Kurt too much really. Done in your eyes. Oh. Thank you. That's the end of it. You know what? I mean. He wanted to talk about it as interesting. It's not as not. Not, like won't watch this but tell them my buddy podcast I'm telling you remember. To party like a year. Let's talk bone. Tomahawk you'd sat there because he loved it so much talked about I'd love to to what did you love it wasn't and we talked about the splitting the guy in have you saw a flock movies Tanja anyway. But I heard a story to that Your Dad Paul Paul, you're driving I just wanted to get a couple of fun stories. You'll. He'll be been real we've been. But. You know that you were driving with Kate and your Kurtz driving's is true. You're mom's driving you know the say. And there's a truck driver something cutting them off. PAINT THE PICTURE ASO ahead he? We were in Hawaii. and. He was just trying to get around this big. Semi trailed you. Shit. Yeah. Seven. Because, why it was alive I think so I was twelve. Oh. Yeah and he he the the the the semi will not let us pass him and he's doing it on purpose right so then Kurt goes over into the shoulder and then pat and cuts in front of him. And now we come up to a stop light. And the guy gets out of the car. And who's driving the truck and then Kirk, it's out of the car and doesn't even flinch no because I think that. If something was gonna go down, you don't want to be in your car you want to be up and out. So you know there's a better chance he pulled over. Yeah. Well, it's at the Stop Light Okay and the guy. Kurtz like look you know I'm with the family I was just trying to get by diffusing the whole thing and the guy was just not having you know sort of poking Kurt doing little shoves big dude big like three plus hundred pound guy. Kurt went to go turn away just to get out of the situation and the guy just clocks him. And of course Kerr. Doesn't go down because his jaws made of a material that doesn't exist on earth. and. He just likes him up, but he only goes to the body which was really interesting. He went to the body and backed him up into his truck. And finished him off with a right hand to the face. Boom. The Guy, I think he kurt knocked a tooth out and he's looking up and laughing at him and he goes. Kurt. Russell. Just knock my tooth out. and Kirk comes back to the car and we get in and we we cruise that was that I heard obviously you know the store nine thought he said I just got my tooth knocked out by snake pless skim maybe yeah. One of the. Kurt. Russell you saw him do this. Could he throw punches? Yeah I think I kirk could still be me up I mean. Be. Any. Russell. He's. He's all you can handle. He's a tough man. Have you seen what? He's soft she his temper yeah. Of course is my dad. You know what I mean does he look like he's the does it like he's in the movies where stern? Yeah. This is what's going to help ya taps into that show. That's it fabric. Who got so many I love backdraft for so many reasons Jabre. Every time I also love breakdown oversee breakdown. You got to see it. It's a tight tight movie with J T, Walsh. Kurt plays a different kind of character sort of like a how like. To do good husband who's driving cross country and they break down and then it takes a really bad turn. What about the thing of course to those movies during a skilled. Escape from New York. The thing you know he's done I mean, he's done. I'm in tombstone whenever tombstones on I just can't stop watching and then by the way dude overboard on one of the best. So it's every time I'm crying every fucking time. Now it's your mom yeah. We'll because when Schwinn the kids when she's leaving at the end In the limousine and the kids are all banging on the window sorta the same way you going and she's closing her ears because she can't hear it. I'm like Oh fuck that's gnarly. What's your favorite? Her goalie movie. Man I mean, private Benjamin. wildcats love wildcats. I was a kid on while I was there for a while. So yeah, I remember I would Wesley Snipes who I was like I, think it was his first movie. He we were. He was my homie. I mean, Wesley was the coolest Dude. Now, it'd be on his shoulder running around. Woody Harrelson and they were all these new actors that was fun in. CHICAGO. Sto Hey These are quick questions from some parents. Yeah. Real Quick Lisa what was it like being on the iconic Dawson's Creek because I? Think he did like eighteen episodes right? Any stories visits quick story we do these rather quickly. I love the dude I loved it because I work two days ago House on the beach I surfed every day and I met some really good friends there and Katie and Katie Holmes I actually became good friends and that that sort of didn't. Know we didn't make love. I was with Aaron at the time, oh? Yeah. Continue to make love. Lee stubs I love to hate him on Nashville, how did you feel about getting killed off? I didn't like it was a necessity. I was lucky enough to do having done I to do another show. So they literally had to kill me off. They had no choice. Christine. WHO's your favorite actor to work on scream I'm going to say Glen Powell. My Boy Lynn Powell I love Glenn Dude. He's a Gani Oliver's work in lots of genres drama comedy Har documented as you have a favorite type of role probably comedy. Dark. Dark Comedy Angel, Harrington Love, the podcast you're doing with your sister, any chance to work together and acting project sometime. Soon. It'll happen yeah. Yeah Matthew Jasko Snake Plus Keno Jack Burton Jack Burton L. by the way. That's the other one. Big Trouble in Little China? Yeah. That's one of my favorite steak. Her has done I mean that that movie. was another John Carpenter moving you know anything John Carpenter does you know I heard something where it was like Kurt? Russell was They were considering they had a tad on the table I. Don't know if this is true table reader something for escape from New York they're like. Change you gotta make it more likeable and he goes. I'm likable right I'm Kurt Russell. There's something true about that. Though Hellene. You can make anything. Yeah. I mean look at Danny McBride. By despicable I mean he's despicable in eastbound down he's despicable human but I'm rooting for him every single time and that's just because that's his nature in every brock up I'm sure you'll talk about what it was like growing up with Goldie, Hawn we did this or at home. one of the series splitting up together as a husband and father himself What did he think about the family dynamics in the series and I'll real realistic. Yes I loved it I. Mean it was my favorite thing that I've done because it actually touched upon something real something that people were going through when I was doing press and stuff and around after the show aired, even people come up to me like I'm going through this or I have friends who are doing this. So it was you know that's real I liked it for that reason actually Jill Eckhart does he get free fabrics gear so you and your sister did a athletic. well. It's it's yes. Yes. I do get a good starter. Yeah it's good. It's good. The men's line they just launched a men's line at that I look good. Yeah. Do you work out? Flab, blood. Ben. Joe Lamb Lamb. Or your some of your best members of your family I, mean it probably going to Colorado is what you said, right? Yeah. Yeah. I mean my fam- were were a tight tight family very close. We all live within ten minutes from each other. Still I'm glad thanks for allowing me to be inside of you today he added really. Good it did it felt really. Natural. Yeah. Is Awesome. Maybe they'll ask him off the but if I, if I brought, gave you like a poster to get signed do it right? Yeah. Of course, like I said Hey can you sign this fuckin- like the poster How many of you have done that zero? Are you serious? Yeah. Then they're fucking pretend time we. Do One hundred percents. That's so no one's. Really. Talking ten ten per posters probably now that you said that I'll probably get like seriously get whatever ones that you want and they don't care. They don't. My Dad isn't gonNA fog. Tomahawk. Tomahawk. What a great movie Ryan you gotTa Watch. Do this has been great. I hope me on your show. A hundred brother will come on sibling revelry sibling revelry. What else go what's your? What's your I know you're got on twitter not on twitter instagram. What's your handle? The Oliver Hudson. The all roads an end. Sibling revelry at at sibling revelry. Yeah. Listen to his pocket listen how open wasn't how much fun guys if you like someone like I like look this is obviously you're gonNA, love this. So give that a shot and strategy his show and check. With your brother. It's GonNa. It'll be good. Can't wait. Yeah. We'll fuck with your brother a little bit Jesus. Thanks. I loved it. What did you think? What was your favorite thing about? Oliver Hudson favorite thing about Oliver. Wyman. Listening to him about that usually it was fun to talk not talk didn't talk at all Fun to listen to, yeah was cutting it. That was like who there was no break. 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Death and Memory

Amy Schumer Presents: 3 Girls, 1 Keith

35:18 min | 1 year ago

Death and Memory

"Sir. Today's episode of three girls one Keith is presented by Klondike ever wonder how far people would really go for Klondike bar watch Anna Farris. Go undercover. To find out in a new snack size series at Klondike bar dot com slash videos. Hey, where you been? Grieg talking about a lot of love and sin. Someone said next. Next. It's came. Hi, guys, and welcome to three girls one. Keith. Good morning. Wow. Good morning. Hell. Yeah. All. Out the gate. Yeah. We're getting pushed nasty today. Guess keeps going down your cellphone or what, what are you doing over there? Calculator parking. Like a picture of a woman's upright asked me. And we're here we have such an exciting show. This is the best show shit. My advice you is a listener would be listened to today's podcast and then never listened to a podcast. That's right. Nothing gas magazine already called this show before it, even aired a sensation of sensations direct. And the New York Times, this is a direct quote from the New York Times they called three girls, one Keith a podcast. So I mean you do the bath, the podcast gazette called us, the most charming, people that have ever existed those people or okay? But by monthly half Jewish weekly. Well, my barbershop said they can't even cut here without listen to them. But didn't they just go to business but still? So I think today would be a great day to talk about death. Dan? Yes. So when you die really what do you want done to your body? Chris excite me. My sister, and I comforted other all the time by calling each other going, we're going to die. Right. She's like, yeah. Mike. Thank God, I'm so comforted knowing it'll end one day, Bridget, you go, I, I want to hear your your plan. Well, I mean, I guess I guess it's cool to other people take my because I'll be. Plagiarizing. You're getting we're still at death. What I wanna do. I wanna get cremated. And I wanna have a party, I want somebody like a little mixer and everybody has to they don't have drink Chardonnay the whole night. But at least part of the night, course, and then there's going to be all be like an a nice big decorative bowl. And then I want there to be a little scooper and little bags and everybody takes a little bit of the ashes, and if they and they will do with mashes what they think I would, you know. Assaults. Yeah. Well that was the hot down for that. What is your what he does like a perverted thing, I'm into it? If keep jerks off with your ashes back. That's cool. I mean that's really what you want because we want to know I want. I mean not like every dick gets a little scoop. It like people that every decade hang like what? But does it also like I've, I've had a friend in an Inuk Obama and his ex kept visiting him that we know he hated it and you're like such a sensitive thing, like, what if somebody that I know you don't like, once a little bag and like some comedy, blogger that we know you think is annoying, or let me ask, who's going get your diamond status? Okay. John bring that up. It's too emotional. It's too heavy. Oh my God. Delta will put a like a little attornal flame for you. In a lounge LaGuardia. Always richer honor than that. What's your death plan rich? Well, I have always said that. I would like to if I committed suicide and not planning on it, but to do it in full military uniform. So everybody was confused like wait. She was in full military regalia wait, tell them these running the movies. It's always like some decorated officer, but they'd be like she lived a life of no service like. Slightly play the opera. You know what I mean? Like they always playing some operatic thing, and then they put on their uniforms, slowly, and some long, white gloves, take out my service revolver, and they'd everybody would be so funny, one good awards like that. A little stamp collection on their jets, they'd be like, where did she get this may be a thrift store or something clearly served? No one. That's my plan. You will slip I would like to lay state. What lame? Like to lay in state like in Philadelphia south Philly. Is that what you want? Yeah. This. Lane slate is like when you dead in your in the contents open an open coffin did in a mall that in the bowl. What mall do you want to be at king of Prussia mall? King oppression material. Just run outside the we're going to put you in an audit front of forever. Twenty one. Krizan for those young. We're going to fight you in front of a Wetzel pretzels at Westfield. You are looking at a New Jersey viewing I want to go on tour. You're kid. People problems on to Lord. Yeah. I just want to go on tour what cities, do you want gotta have Philly, you probably want to go by Detroit. Stop in Detroit Atlanta. Short said they're too good for you. Oh, sorry, also took a strong path. Oh, propped up people like somebody else's wears your body now. I'm doing two shows in Philly. So we just put a might in, in the coffin with the rest of Mike. And what of your awful silk tops, we have, what do you picture yourself wearing a robe, nothing? Perverted, even in the afterlife, because a bowl is going to fall out. I'm gonna be children there. Well, whatever is a field to get in the funeral. Is it eighteen over her? It's all ages two drink minimum. We're looking at eighteen. People get Guber nice snacks and everything about raising ads somehow break free neural. Nets good. I want to be cremated also. And I want my body scattered in the ocean. But I really want that. I just want my friends to get together that night and talk about all the awful shit. I did. That's most important to me is thinking about, you guys sitting around being like member when she did this that was, you know what a horrible person. Won't say I know I never wanna be unplugged, but he mean. Oh, oh, you don't wanna do not resuscitate not I. Yeah. I want that. You don't want that. I wanted like a generator I want to go around you want us to just keep you going. He'd be gone does bleed. Everybody's. Family arguing over, you're basically lifeless courts, we have to visit you and can you be somewhere that's convenient for us, if you're going to stay alive, just like this, and I'm not driving to Newark, every Sunday. I'm scared of a Newark. I'm scared of podcast. Okay, get yourself. At least two convenient told the just lay there very good. Actually comedians funerals are some of the best times it is like, really sad. But you're all together and making jokes and paying tribute and the actual funeral themselves usually comedian speak at them, and they're pretty hilarious. I'll never forget, what Colin Quinn said at Charles. Oh, it's your old column was like, I mean, Greg made us all a little classier like he elevated us as a community just to be this Harvard, grad this. And then he stops himself and he's like, I mean, look at Voss like if it was Voss that was laying haired common. We'd be said. But it's fos. That'd be looking. Loss standing there. All trust this. It was hilarious. Oh victim. Yeah. I'm here to pay respect to my friend, don't get entrenched. Allen's the best of funerals. What's celebrity deaths. Do you remember where you were? When they happen. I, I had like. I, I remember I was in that cab downtown. And you're like, what that one hurt who's a bad bad, bad feeling I was in a basement. I was in Denise McCann's baseman drinking croissant center level, main come into my shift. Hurt. Hurt me the most was. Still cry. No, this is real. This is real. Only keep no Keith is getting emotional. He's actually emotional who nipsy Russell. Russell really true. To love you. And then you just completely show should nipsy. Russell dairy, sir. How dare you see Russel who brought joy to so many people? I should think about how many lives you've ruined. Fans. I encourage you to go at him for this one. Yeah. This should take you down. Michael Jackson was actually. Yeah. I remember. Oh, yeah. That was brou-. I was near Krista or street. I heard it from a cab radio. Everybody was freaking out trying to moonwalk everywhere. It was so annoying. Wish I would have been on the streets. I was in bed. I'm just landed in the darkened psych. I did during that time. Remember where you were in Barry Manilow dead. He's still kidding trying to get a little rise brand. Trying to get. Whitney houston? Yeah. I was waiting tame. You were. I wasn't that many years ago handy. But I remember like that spread that like it was like I came back, I was like, carrying some dishes, and I'm the manager like Kennedy's like Whitney Houston died. Three. It was shocking was shocking, even though, like she, you know, there's some people that you're like, oh, okay, that makes sense can handle this. But still, like her talent is so great. And like maybe one of the I mean, top her three Aretha Whitney, and Rachel Feinstein. This is a very special edition of three girls. When Keith where we have the pleasure of having Gordon Schumer the sperm donor, that created me. I mean, I guess he was married to my mom, technically, but so dad high not at the moment. Okay. Time. In the long time we have been smoking some pot together recently. Do you remember that or no? Yeah. Are you older? No. Yeah. He has you have short term memory loss. Did you know that every time? Notes symptom of MS short memory will, yeah, he tells me in a short term memory. For your law. Sorry for your loss. A cut, but he remembers everything like, how many abortions, have you paid for it go, and we'll, we'll get a calculator for you. The number. Yeah. It was over three a basket of abortion, definitely more than three small biscuit. A seven smallest. Easter basket, who was a Sabbath biscuit. That's great. That's beautiful bad. What a wonderful man to bring me into this world will you the first one that lived, I know thank you so much. What a sweet kind man, and wonderful father anyway, dad, you want love in your life, again, like you're living in this assisted living place. You're about to get stem cells, so that you can hopefully walk again. Really? Yeah. That's what's fun. Is that I get to tell him this news all the time. And then he cries every time you got me the best MS green the world rights, right? You, you remind him all the time that you think he's ugly. Okay. This guy is helping you hopefully, walk again, you're. You say you're this funny. Looking little guy. Yeah. Yeah. No, baby. Call a specific way of saying. His name is Dr Sadique. He's, he's a he's a practice in hell's kitchen, and he's, I believe he's the only one who's FDA approved to do stem cell research for MS. So we got you in with him. And you got that little thing put in so you can take a lot less drugs, because you were all drugged up and crazy for a couple years after one of your wives got institutionalized. Anyway, now, I remember after you and mom split, you dated some gargoyles now the women that you had the revolving door in your apartment in Long Beach. I mean with that, baby. Oh, yeah. And what kind of woman are you looking for now we've got a lot of listeners? So, yeah, you the woman would need to be willing to go. Hang out at your sister living place deal with short term memory loss. It's getting shorter old ES it is. So what are you looking for? In a woman. Should she be local since she live in New York? She's listening, Gordon plating. Yeah. She's out there so make it nice sweet for let's the quarter right now. Okay. I woke, but I could roll. Heart. I love that. What kind of woman are you looking for? What do you want to look like? Okay. Fem- Email from the start from the jump. Yeah. Eidan. Maybe okay, me like Chinese, but eaten. Okay. Okay. It's not directly to take. I'm so, proud because you were saying oriental until very recently. So this is pretty huge. Okay. The word right Asian. Yes. Thank you. But Chinese people are Asian. To continent. Yeah. Look, you keep it know that. So anyway, countries to continent yet. So okay, what are you up into dating a woman of color? A black woman. Definitely. What about a Hispanic woman? I'm okay, what size are you open to her being eight six? Wow. Wow. Yeah. Rails percent. Chinese that's impossible in America. Now that two tiny yes. No. That's, that's fine or doing a weird science of your so so far. She's any ethnicity kind of except for Chinese and like between the size six and eight is there an age bracket? Oh, yeah. How old like what's the oldest? What's the oldest you would date? Fifty forty fifty thirties sixties, right. But you don't want somebody in their sixties Bradley the forties fifties. Okay. They have to be older than you. Thank you. What a sainted heart. Would a beautiful. Holy great. That actually hit on waitresses. We came up with the rule. I was like she has to be older than me for you to even smile at her. That is very that was a rule that we instated what's the what's the youngest you ago. Keith was legal. Oh my God say. Just going to say. Have you ever slept with a really old person? No, no really person wasn't for me how much how much older, I'd say good. Be twenty Twenty-one maybe thirty years older at the time I went through a little phase. You know, when you when you're working to daddy issues, you know, in, in my twenty s yeah, there's, there's a line between things that like gross, you out and turn you on him when that line is very now you don't know until you try it me about my porn history. Today's episode of three girls one Keith is presented by Klondike. What would you do for a Klondike bar is back, watch Anna Farris? Go undercover to find out what crazy things real people would do for a Klondike watch the full videos at Klondike bar dot com slash videos. Let's do a pounded or pass with my dad. Do you wanna pound? What do you wanna pass do you want to? What do you want to pass a one ninety? It's called pounded or pass. It's a game originally by Bridget Everett where you decide we named someone. And then you decide if you'd want to have sex with them or pets. Okay. How about Goldie Hawn? I'll go I, I've spent a lot of time with Goldie, and she smells great. She's like the kind of person where you love her so much. I think I almost like kissed her on the lips. By accident a couple times when you're around, and he just you love them so much. And you just like, feel so comfortable them. I don't know. I just love her and she has so pound. It didn't we both cry together. Gold me. Yeah. You met Goldie and you guys you had a really beautiful moment. You guys felt connected. You wanna go next? Would you pounded or pass? Goldie. I'm in love the decker so pounded, always always have been in love with Goldie. So you're gonna say pounded or pass. I guess. I guess. Some not a quarterback now. No, you're no. You're not. You take that ball. You run with them. I'm all right wing. I'm a I'm going outside receiver. Very nice. I'll take my turn if you don't mind, I'd love to pound it with Goldie. What I'd love to do is get a little glass, without Goldie Chardonnay that she has. Porous glass put on laugh in episode with her and Dean Martin where they sing the song about how stupid gold is supposed to be. It's, it's really funny that it's beautiful. And then we'd watch that for a while watch overboard and then wrap it up with snatched, and then we would just do some sweet soft kisses, and hold hands and Kurt Russell be they're rubbing our feet. So while it's not technically penetration. It's still in an emotional pound. And I think those memories will last a lifetime. Well that was beautiful. I'm perfect pound it. Touched. Then definitely pound. Have a low seems like old times playing in the background. Great movie. Great. Well number here. You can hear it. Okay. But I have a Marvin Gaye singing over. I want you. Awesome. Your fingers, and you can't see them home. But he's just he wants you want me to. Make a husband. Cervo. Chardonnay. I do want to promote their Gogi. They make a Pinot Noir and Chardonnay that'll change your life. That's. Started as just as Goldman's our hair. It's it's uncanny. Yes, it's a signature without being overstated. It's beautiful. It's an it's a lifestyle. It's a lifestyle, Rancho adorable one night when I was living with Amy. We were up really. And we were drinking. And I think we were trying to smoke a cigar. Yeah. We're how light it properly. And we would just like we were should base time someone someone clearly needs to be in on all this fun. So we just kept trying to FaceTime all these people, no one wanted anything to call. Lebron you went on a tear 'cause we were so drunk, and we thought it was so funny that we wanted to smoke a cigar for no reason then Goldie picked right up. She was so excited. Glasses. I just wanna look you doing. So adorable sweet. And she was ready for wherever smoke a cigar. Past Goldie toy. Yeah. Hound are pass pound town whereas every which way every position, oldie, pounded, or pass Goldie. Yeah. Pounded or pass. Really? We're talking a little bit about death, which we have two people from the dead dad club here. Yeah. Bridget status, dad and Keith did you, you never met your father or the father. Okay. Sorry, but he passed away. Right. I know you pass. Why in? Well, what do you call? He's hiding from you go. Bingo, Gordon knows. Does he gone on his farewell tour? Oh, yeah. That's been gone. Yeah. While it was pretty violent. So, so what we'd love to hear about it. No. You can't hear about a violent sorry for your loss. Sorry for your loss sorry for your loss. I cut the danke. Yeah. I'm sorry. Or you. Yeah. We're pretty sorry pretty. Yeah. We've, we've talked about a lot of tragedy and personal stuff in here. Why not? I mean, unless you don't you wanna talk because you don't want to talk about it. I've talked about anything. Was this harder or nipsy, wrestles, loss, nipsy that, you know nip? That, you know, nipsy Russell her the name. Yeah, okay. We're done. You got it. You got it all. My dad was stabbed by guy named Virgil till you say you stabbed to. Yeah. Holy shit man, whose Virgil they just had a bar and some things went on. And then he stabbed him. Okay. That's sad. See that Gordon's? I mean violin. Yeah. You know what's so annoying? I do love the name Virgil though. Do you care? We just got a new little kitten. Do you care if we name Virgil? Kane really Virgil Caine was not forget the artist. Okay. Evil. Soft, you name your cat or Joel? Virgil. Have you ever stabbed anybody? Twice. No. Really? Have you ever been stabbed or anything known? Did you ever get into fight? No fistfights your life. No. Wow. And not a smack smack in your life. Another -nother smack no ever. But you did a lot of spent. But you know what my code word is cocaine. Breakfast, cocaine breakfasts. No. He say, do you wanna have some breakfast after lunch, snow seven AM, breakfasts breakfasts student bed? That's nice. That's a good breakfast. How long how long were you Keith when all that happened how it was a like ten teases? I'm sorry, Honey. Oh now you sorry I am. Sorry. Are you still going named cat Virgil? Anyway. Dad. Who were the great loves of your life and to go knee in Greece? Do mother. That's nice my third way. Same name. There's an amazing story. So the last woman, he married. They're divorced now. But they did it back in the seventies. So he was like rich New York swinger lived with my godfather, who was on the fall guy. Now Dunbar they shared a penthouse like it was he, they, they were a big deal born nineteen a Emory towers, four hundred seventy seven so you guys are dating in the seventies, this woman, sandy, her dad came over. And then you as we're all going out to dinner, this is your first time eating your girlfriend's parents and do you remember what happened in the lobby of your building? Okay. So what happened hopefully should you go out to dinner with your girlfriend's family. What happens? I missed him girl you met some girl who came into the lobby. And what did you ask her? You know, I do, but they don't know tell them what you ask her. It was the pent up. Yes, this woman if she'd ever seen the penthouse and then you took her upstairs, you locked your new girlfriend, and her parents out and you told me that was the only time you were ever tied up. Plug will do. He's imagine this. You're meeting, your girlfriend's family. Lift them. You've lived a good life, Gordon. You know, then twenty years later, he marries this woman, not the woman you brought up stairs, the woman whose father was there. Wow. Married. Her from third wife. I lived in New Orleans. I know knew. New in my twenty I know when liquor store. Yeah. Schumer's lakers. St. migrant grandma still still who later. She got the seventh liquor. Licensed back after prohibition. She's the one who is always like high money from the men. She was ninety something. Oh, I would spend time with her. I was back in Manhattan, when she was here, I will go, visit she Luna's studio apartment sooner ninety she would shoot in a studio apartment with a bed that she had to fold out every night. In brooklyn. No, not the Brooklyn, the one who was on the east side. It was like straight east from tumors Lakers, and she, she would get her hair done, but she called the getting a blowjob. And I go to those, and she would get the cream cheese on the side because you save ten cents. I don't remember you knew grim. I knew her own newer. Well, not just as a kid, misspell Schumer Keith. He looks so tired. No, I'm a man. No, you're not. You're so boring. Getting blindfolded Keith woke up and he wanted to hear the next piece, but then he fell back asleep again. Why don't you talk to my dad if verger came and killed your father? What would you say to him? It's the sound chain. Thank you. I wanna have blinded Vom folded as we've finished at what he's saying. Okay. Anyway. Well, joining here about how my father Jackie related because let's just bought it. We just save that for nineteen eight. This is out of control marito's this, how did this get so out of my control? It was just a podcast. Yes. It's. Do you turn memory loss? A p Todd. No, it's not a heap hot. Let's see who knows more about black history Keith, or my dad. Oh, this is good. Okay. Dad, do you know what Harriet Tubman is famous for? Keith Harry Tuchman yeah she's backup singer for the supreme. There is no, I she was back in this war era. Yes. Right. Right. What do you? I mean with the beard. With the beard, let that go on Luke forever. Man, that made me so happy. Shiva war ever. She was really instrumental in the underground railroad which runs on the. L. A. R. All right. Anybody know who Sarah breedlove is? I know you ever heard of Sauerbrey loved. No, no, no. Who's that? Nobody who's that. Okay. Does anybody know Madame CJ Walker? Yes, we know Madame CJ Walker Madame CJ Walker is Sarah love. Oh, okay. Cool. Well, if we're gonna everyone's aliases. What, what does the Madam c cheesy Walker known for doing Herrick like being famous for inventing different here? So different leagues sort of technology, maybe curling irons and stuff doing doing women of color hair, your silence, does you wasn't right. Well, what is your right? What about Frederick Douglass? Females self-made millionaire. Okay. What do you remember about Frederick, Douglass, bullishness? And once he famous for Saul, you need to know. Come on. He taught himself how to read. Oh, geez. It's all people told them selves, not Reback back for you. Explain why you never get an Email back from keys. Teach you myself how to read as we speak. That's great. That's great that named predict Douglas black guy from way the hell back. Yeah. He just knows the street keeps his inappropriate to black black guy. No. Well back. I didn't like that. No. I think I think saying what do you think? Do you like when people say black or? Keith is of color, color, personal, color, your of color. Do you tell jokes that are off color? Absolutely. Okay. So we're hoping this'll be a big episode. What is something you think everybody should know that a lot of people don't know who you were named after? He named me and Kim after ex girlfriends. Can you imagine if you give birth to a child, and your husband's like let's Damer for this hot piece of tail? I remember from seventy second street. You know what I love you dad? The greatest story. Ever doesn't it make more sense? Why love you so much after spending time with him? We're should on namer. Ooh, I remember we ended dog for while named Tammy, who was after one of your girlfriends. He was named the dogs and children after his accident. Oh, tell you all this. I was name sandy, one of my mom, one of my wife. This know your mother's sandy one. So I said to favour, Amy over Kim. She said, I neglected them both equally. But you didn't you didn't you were there you were there as much as we let you be. Wait, can I ask Orden's lease please Buca Gordon? I wanna know his story about little Amy little, Amy. What was they me? Like what she was a little Amy accusers kidding ever. Oh, this really she funny. Do you remember her being funny when she was a little girl Amy in the corner cornfields? That's a, that's a classic your husband, Chris. Remembers Chris crew. That's impressive too. Late. Chris, you'll love meat great, mom, Kris. Have you ever seen Amy cornfield that only about a million time? Yeah, there's a video of me at, like five years old being running away from home. Amy in the corn from the core. If you do the corporate arm saying, I'm leaving the leaving. I'm saying baby. Where are you going? Patrons leaving the leaving. You like part. I was running away through cornfields, and he was instead of saying what's wrong. Let's talk about your feelings. He just was like, okay bye. Have fun. He's fine me at the camera. I'm really going, he's like, okay, I'll miss you very messy DVD's. Not what? It's called. Yeah. Was amy. Sarcastic, do you remember her being like you guys both kind of have a dark sense of humor? You remember to pretend to put our dog in the microwave. And he would he would pretend like it was real like, and he wouldn't tell me he was joking. So I would walk in the kitchen, and he'd be putting our dog in the microwave. I go he go. Oh, sorry. Do you cook? Well, this was really great should we go around and say, what we learned in this episode. I learned the short term memory loss is nothing to fuck around with. Reach what you learn. I learned that Gordon was a true player back in the day. Yeah I was very fascinated by your by your player days. The penthouse lady, I learned some wild tales about you. I love to young young New York. Gordon, a real life lived. Yes. And many lives lost. The naming of the kids after the girlfriends out greatest thing I've ever. The greatest, who's the woman that says, like, yeah. I look that. Dad, would you learn today to never come again? That is horribly to never never be interviewed in public again. Yeah. That's probably smart. I learned that my does really good on a podcast. I think you should be a regular on this podcast, speak English pretty well. Let's find out great, okay? Unlinked women and you're trying to date. Let's check your sales. Let's try to maybe get you. Maybe it's three girls one Keith and dad, Gordon. Well, thank you so much. I love you so much dad, China's very salable Amy Schumer in are dead. Salable the marketing does itself. All right. Anyway, on that note, thank you guys so much for another wonderful episode. Please join us next time stay strong talk soon. Three. Gordon three girls. One Keith is a Spotify. Original podcast are executive producers are me, Amy Schumer and Kevin Kane are executive producers at Spotify are Natalie Tele and Robin Hawkins. Three girls. One Keith is produced in collaboration with the team, gilded audio design Andrew chug Whitney Donaldson and Dan, rose Octo. And by the way, make sure to follow three girls one Keith so you don't miss a single episode. Do you remember the song cat two phones? Uh-huh. 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#273 Sophie Heawood: The Book Single Mothers Have Been Waiting For

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#273 Sophie Heawood: The Book Single Mothers Have Been Waiting For

"Hello and welcome back to control. Delete podcast, so today's guest is safety hayward. I have followed Sophie's work for years I've read of her columns in the Guardian and when she called him vice, I love talent. Newsletter I basically hunt out anything and everything that she writes and consume it. She has written for many publications including the Times Guardian Vogue, and she writes the most incredible profiles of Alyssa's. She doesn't. Doesn't just interview celebrities. She tells incredible stories while doing so, and she crofts her writing, such a compelling and interesting way. You almost feel like you. Are there in the room in La or Hollywood or in the Fancy Hotel lobby wherever she is and just think she's the best at what she does. Her first book is now out, which is very exciting for anyone. That is a fan of her writing. It's called the hungover games, and it's out now, and it's a beautiful memoir about single motherhood and what to expect when you weren't expecting to be expecting. It's really funny. It's really role. It's really honest, and it's just one of the most pacey memos of red for a long time I read it in a day I love. How much sophie just kind of lets you in into a weld in all its glory on in all its authenticity. I think he will absolutely love it so definitely. Get a copy of the hungover games. It really is going to be one of the books of the year I think, and if you enjoyed this conversation, then please do go and leave a review on Apple. podcasts ready really helps. podcast is when people do that, so here's the conversation with Sophie and I'll see you next week. Welcome Safety Hayward to control. Delete of waiting to do this literally. Since that first books that are announcement every time I see you I'm like when when's it coming out when coming out of probably very annoying? Very encouraging, it was lovely. This idea that you were waiting to read my book that I haven't probably finish writing you. And the weirdest thing is you probably spent? A long time writing it as anyone does writing a book, and then I literally read it in day. And I've been hearing that feedback from a lot of people that you'll writing is so addictive and I think donald attend described. It recently is a salty snack that you can't put down and it really I just want to tell you how how wonderful it was to read, and I just raced through it. It's brilliant. Hit the nail on something. I think quite. Interesting to me, which is yes, this book? I thought it would take. Maybe you know six months to a year and it was at least twice that really I mean I was doing other things as well obviously but. People have very kindly said to me I'm like whatever it is so far. This is people who approve copies and. is so bitter sweet. You think well. There's no greater compliment than somebody saying our picture book up thinking just reteach actors and next thing you know. It was four in the morning. You know when you read. The whole thing is thrilling, but you do think gosh three. What nights if someone's life, but it's like being pregnant unit, you spend almost a year being pregnant and giving birth so one day. FEELS IMBALANCED SOMEHOW Because I feel like the book is written in such a way as well that it's not like loads of cliffhangers or anything, but the way that you've written it is like. Okay right onto the next chapter. I've gotTA GOTTA. Go through this and I wondered. Is that something that you did land three? You'll years of journalism that when you write an article especially with your celebrity, pray falls. You do need to keep a reversal of hooked right till the end, don't you? A is absolutely the and I'll tell you what it is. My Dad is about eighty seven now and has bought the Guardian. Had It delivered every day of his life since he's twenty, so we took it absolute lifelong half century loyalty to reading the entire newspaper every day now as you know, the Guardian has go, low of content skewed a bit young, a bit cool g to the music section. You know they're quite into. For a contemporary political debate, so you have loads the names of stuff in the Guardian that means nothing to my God. You know some grime actress East London. He's interested, but he's an seven seventy of mine in Yorkshire he's never had stuff stuff. Say when I was brought into the God unions ago to do quite so you know for one of the word so of cool and trendy. You know you start off. I always thought well. The people reading this possibly aren't paying for the guards in my dad's been loyal customer for fifty years. He's not reading online for free. You, know I want him to be able to get to the end of this article even if he never sees a film, this actress has being in this thing. I'm talking about Hollywood, or whatever is this band? He's never going to go and see per gig in Camden I. Won't Mississippi something in it for him to get to the end of the article, and that has served me well I think I always think I got to get a person who you know. He's reading my profile. We stand on. On McCartney genuinely hasn't heard of Stella. McCartney's clothes doesn't understand doesn't care about the Beatles even at a level like of got get you to not put my Oscar down until you got to the end of it I'm it got? He must've been so proud that you had to call him in in the newspaper that he'd read his whole life. It's quite Kleiman really really proud, and what's funny is as a child. Much is my. God is a very nice person. You can have a lovely conversation with. Every morning I come to the breakfast table and he would have you know the food signs, Guardian Physical, who thing and when I was a kid. It was bigger than the current page size. I would say suit of staring at the back of his newspaper, not seeing his head and you know sometimes as a teenager you want my parents. Listen to me. Why does not understand me? Why are they say concerned with things? The you know the fabulously interesting thing, is so he would. And I did years later thing Oh i! Know I've done now. I've gone into the world and made it so even if he's not looking at me at the table because he's heads in the Guardian. was saying. It was. Like literally every morning of my childhood, The Guardian was there so I do think therapist would have a field day with that. That will never ever go. Talking about the Guardian in two, thousand, fifteen sixteen, you wrote this amazing piece about raising a child by yourself, and it went viral, and I think every single person on the planet read it and I wanted. was that the catalyst for the book, or were you always wanting to write about this amazing topic that you know so much about is funny. I ended that common for a year, and it was coming to the end of the as Contra I need. It was going to be one of my last clutch columns. And I think I feel you know I've always wanted to try and write about being a single mother and I had touched on it in that Colin through the air. But I suppose I always thought a one dial right like the definitive thing. I want to say on this subject, but of course impossible, so you just keep hedging around and you keep thinking about next next week. And then when it really was, the end of the column is a bit like right here. We go I'm going to really say what I want to say about what it's actually like having a baby on your own, but any had eight hundred words to do so drafted and redrafted in and up sending entertain late because I just really recap. And it did. Were you know it did touch a lot of people and I do still get asked about it, and it did lead to various publishers getting in touch, and I think I already had an agent, but just been of trying ideas and we haven't really got anywhere. It did lead to that really building up and I still didn't actually sign the book deal for another. Maybe another couple of years after that I think I wanted to bit was space from because my daughter was still quite young I didn't want to be like. Here's a book about single parenting by someone who's been doing it for so two thirty six months I wanted to have a bit more. Kind of experience, but yes, that did lead to this book I would say. Cause I wondered as well. I know you've probably been before, but that line between writing the truth writing a memoir, which obviously crafted and his skill. And I love the. There is a boundary actually in your book. I think there's a few moments where you kind of say to the Rita. I'M NOT GONNA. Say any more than this, but it's enough. I felt very satisfied it but. There was a line there, and I really liked that as well with that sort of line of memoir and people in real life reading it. Did you have that reservation of will? Daughter? One day read the book. Absolutely and that's that's one part of the reason why it took me longer to write than I thought it would because the so much. At stake when you're writing it. You know the truth of your life and. Your private lie. Some of it's my sex life, and how that relates to me having a child. Being a single moments. Rudy personal stuff and I don't mind. Of course. At Eight Mine Sherry nonstop I've chosen to live as a writer I'm the person who. When always tell my friends everything that's going on, so the no holds barred the problem with writing a book, which is not some historical novel about some people in Venice in the seventeenth century. It's about real other people who is still alive earned. Somebody might read the book and say Oh. Actually you know I think you've been quite way. Having and somebody else might say oh. You haven't said much more than that, so we find our line, don't we but? Yes there are other people's lives mentioned in the book I think it's for then privacy that I i. think if it was really just me. Absolutely. Have to get restraining order against myself. I think I would. I would say anything. That's so funny. 'cause I I. my first book was quite personal, but I changed all the names of the ex-boyfriends, and all the rest of it. You know the whole legal process is quite funny isn't well. You have to cover the cover. People's backs, but I was. Reading I wonder how he found reading the Audio Book for this. Because there are parts of it arches like so funny and so honest, and so like going slightly bright red reading it yeah, it's funny because there were some kind of you know you're hinting. Cut a sex scenes things. The worst we're of course you know you. All these years writing to impress my dad. Well actually please for the love of God mom. Dad Diary this about giving Harry. Krishna Manco Blow Job I thought you know so spent my years working out. You know deal with the devil and half to just you know boldly plow hadn't at tons out. None of that is as embarrassing standing in an audio recording. In a studio in central London with. Central London say spaces premium say the OJ was small, and the sound engineer was kind of on the other side of the gloss, but we're both in a room about the size of an armchair. Each divided by gloss and he the whole way through the was lovely, Young Irish Guy Really Nice. He had to keep stalking me and saying. Oh, you just you know you said that word constitution. You swallowed constitution. Can you just set up again or that? Last bit just didn't quite catch that all. Actually you know there's one bit for some random reason I have to mention Papa New Guinea and he was like Oh, I think it's PAPPU UNU-. He said we got us to this. And then there was one where it had say to me. Oh. Sorry, stop you swallowed. Blow job and. Then he made me go back and obviously that passage was so embarrassed I'd kind of race through it, so which made it worse because I then had to repeat that passage more than anything else, so we had to go back back. Something about the taste of sperm in my home. I realize this is why people don't put this in books. You stunned in a recording studio and say it again and again live ritual humiliation. Funny, yes, I feel it. When it's written down. At least it can be a little bit like cal. Forget of written it now in the recording studio. They had a fridge full of light snacks. Drinks and stuff to sort of keep you going, and they also had all these jars Heriberto. I'm not a big sweetie, too, but you know it's getting a bit nervous so I was sort of eating all these you know gummy sweets and the more I had to do. The seat I was getting higher and higher. But sauce on this much sugar rush by the end of it was quite strange, and I think London lockdown happened something like the next day, said like as I left, the recording studio could organize. The last boss asks have dodged the streets of London, suddenly empty and I'm like really high on sweet soya was feeling really crazy well, if that's not selling the order, but to the listeners right? Right now I didn't know is I mean you have to listen to it now, but the book is split into two sections. You've got London La and then you've got London Yeah I wondered if you could talk a little bit about your, you'll love affair with with la because it's so clear in the book that you have such a deep kind of relationship with with the PACE, yeah! Era grew up in Yorkshire Ferry. New British town not particularly. Exciting and then I moved to London. Case University and stuck around off to as people do, and I became a celebrity into I became a celebrity, but I interview sort of pop stars and Rockstars, and sometimes film actors, Directors and Oh an authority and the politicians public figures. And the recession hit journalism and other industries in about two thousand and eight. There was the big financial crash, and so you couldn't none of papers or magazines. All companies could fly you out to La Anymore. The celebrities were still there in LA plugging stuff needing to you. Newspaper still had gaps in the pages. Full, but there wasn't really the budget to fly freelances around so. Was One of those rare plans in life that went well I thought if I can get a work visa and base myself in La. Maybe I'll get all this work. That is still there and it worked, but the reason I knew I was because I'd been flown into us before, and is the city that I think is most. Wrongly portrayed in the media. Everybody's heard of Los Angeles Hollywood everyone in two. Small town in Africa everybody's heard of Hollywood but I. Think I had thought it's going to be boob jobs, and now you have to have a car to drive around where I didn't drive. Still don't it's going to be laser makeup? It's going to be boob jobs I'm someone who baddie whereas any makeup, no interest in that kind of vanity surgery stuff. And a date like false people are quite like just telling the truth and chatting and having a laugh like having a drink. Don't go hiking. And I go to La to this paradise of interesting people, because it's a one industry town everybody. Whether they're very highly paid film actor or very poorly paid dog walker is doing something to facilitate the film industry, so if you can bookshop in La, you'll books are being sold to producers who looking for new stories to tune into TV and film and I think it's eighty two nine hundred ninety percent of all films. At least made in Hollywood, too conspicuous, the world, all all based on books with US nonfiction novels, so there's a massive book culture and I got fantastic bookshop. This got loads of poetry readings. My best friend. There Mandy is a poet. I made friends with high school teachers I made friends with. People who volunteered with kids and shelters, I made friends with Hollywood agents. He made ten times as much money as the rest of us, but this was one gang of friends I'm talking about. It's really fine print throwing city on some level storytelling filters into all of it. I find it fascinating. Yes I love seeing it through the eyes of like even following your instagram posts because you do see the kind of realness over, and then again in the book is while I feel like we see the behind the scenes of the like pr person with a clipboard. And that sort of Hollywood. Like protecting the truth and I think that's what you're so great, and that's why people love your profiles. Is You bring kind of you'll your trason heart and soul to the interviews and I feel like you crack. People open a bit a bit more. Thank you you know if someone if a celebrity and infuse, said something, but you just think Oh God. Wow, that's quite. Unlikely opinion to hold. Quite naive, evil, aggressive or whatever is. A don't like to write in the piece. They said that. Aren't they fool? That's no you know. That must be the wrong opinion. Because my safe havens, opinion is another opinion. A don't like to push myself into too much, but I do like to. Let their word. Speak themselves. But it's taken years because when I go into journalism I just wanted to write me me me me me me. And everybody a bit mode and spirits, and it was like for God's sake. Stop being such a narcissist just due to. It's not about you. I go into interviews and I didn't make them about me. Honestly swung too far the other way and I think he's taken really about ten years to find that mid point where my personality team comes across, but it's not an article about Safety Haywood. It's not about this rockstar. Yeah two of the chapters. I, really like and I love them all, but you Kinda, we've in these almost like behind the scenes experiences with some of the celebrities and I think what makes it so. So exciting and funny. This burke is you've got the I guess the contrast between London's and Piss you call it. Then, you've got the shot came on. And in the depths of your despair you'll sign in front of Goldie, Hawn or Jodie foster or someone who on paper has it all together and you do find pieces of inspiration from these women, which is really lovely in the book and I lost celebrities and I never want to be bigger than that. You know there's people in my family who sort of been cambridge academics and things like that much better educated than me. People and I sometimes think God. They must think it's a bit funny that. I've devoted my life to sort of celebrity coach you can be of. It's not about celebrity culture. But I haven't gone off. Ever. My relationship with it changes, but I still want to know what Madonna thinks about anything I want to know what Madonna thinks about can accardo to order, and I want to know what she thinks about black lives matter. I want to know everything. Has To say I think it's fascinating and I remain gripped and what was fun in the book? Because when I've written up as you say, there's a bit in the Oregon Interview Jodie foster and one more I do. Goldie Hawn and I think another selection in two as well and you know couldn't reveal in those newspaper profiles when I wrote them full Sunday, times, it was. was quite. As you sent the extent of my own Personal Taos so bringing to the table at that time, but I was able to revisit in the book I. Mean I'm slightly worried about when the book comes out, you know the lawyers at Penguin. Random has been through it all and we check the transcripts interviews and checked. Who owns the copyright and? It's been thoroughly legal than it's fine, but I don't know. What Goldie Hawn's. What she sees, you know my depiction of how she tried to help me through a meltdown I had walls. I also you know I still much as I've written a book. Can you get paid for that and it's lovely I still. Will probably remain in work as a celebrity unless all my. The different papers I know freelance for see this book and go Oh my God. You've since such a positive light, US pay in a way. At least it's kind of slums, not way. If you know what I mean makes you just love golden even more. Oh, I mean. How could you? How could you not love it? He'll get and actually jd I. You know she was brilliant. I've not put people in the books to slant them all, but it's funny. What you just said about celebrity culture. How people do sometimes kind of quite snooty about it when actually? All celebrities are sometimes like a reflection of our lives and the reason we want talk about a couple break-up or a couple of getting back together or a divorce, or it's like that's because we're going through all that stuff and we're able to hold a mirror up a little bit. We are anew. Say What we really like is seeing really wealthy. People have problems that money can't fix, so you know. Know we we in our slightly more humble lives go through divorces and all that kind of stuff, but this for some reason you sort of think if I had a massive house in beverly, hills I wouldn't have to deal with this shit, but you will you will. I'm not saying the massive has been hugely helpful. I think money speaks volumes, but the bit we love the most is when you know. She's got the house and she's still in divorce and she can. I can neither going on I suppose we're seeing that in lockdown, aren't we? As well you know obviously lockdown is going to be nicer if you go pull and a mansion at the same time, we're all still fighting the same battle during at the moment I mean you are seeing some famous people start to go. At midnight twitter anything. It's not going so well in your. People are unraveling yet. A funny thing is back to Madonna when she had her first child lures lone, he must be twenty old now I remember. Shoes into Vanity Fair think and she was sat with her. Then throw her and her ex pastoral trailer. Carlos lay on the data and they were trying to the modern family thing of making it work. You know dating they. We get along great, but they'd taken that kid out for Brunch Madonna said you know these people around the table, which is staring at me staring at me like because they had like died in two nights, kids and I'm with my ex trainer at a child. She's just looked at them and thought okay. Well, what would you? How would you make this work? AM. I felt good. It's interesting. Madonna sits there in a restaurant. Feeling, embarrassed that. Doesn't quite know how to make her family work, and that stayed with me for such a long time. And I, then became the single mom, obviously people staring at me in the same way, but I have sat in Pizza Express with me and my go, and I've tried and tried so that make in my head that we are a whole family and you look at the next table and this the mom and the dad and the three kids celebrating a birthday. and. Madonna's sweats come back to me and they save me. I love that because it exactly sums up. How we all feel, which is a we doing it right and even Madonna thinks that. The family of five at the next table. The mummy sat there, thinking I should have divorced this guy. You know yes, he's turned up snakes. It's her birthday. Will whereas he being the past two months per having a crisis at school. We. Don't know what's going through their heads. In terms of the you know the. Theme, I guess of being a single mom, and and how to make that work, and I think you mentioned this in the book, actually of how it could have really helped you and might help others to have more representation in the media in films and TV. Where where were these stories I? Mean I feel like this is the first time I've read this type of story, but you can't be the only one. I sort of feel. When my daughter was getting to the reading books, age or two and three or four or five, I think governed by these greedy books about you know different families. The I know now showed exists because we've been doing this for years, you know whereas the single parent kids as the lesbian mom teenage Western mixed-race family whereas the stuff that wasn't in the books that I read as a kid. And he still wasn't that I was mind blown. I was going around the bookshops going this is weird My work still sometimes got to America. I found Brooklyn. You know important part of New, York. Was the best place to get Brooklyn is probably the most writer on. Some routine. I was getting great books about like a black single mom and her daughter, and they were the closest I found to our experience which. Is Great but who say ridiculous. Middle Class Woman from Yorkshire and I'm not saying my experience on many levels is a tool similar to in Brooklyn but that was the closest. I could get to the shape of a family that was the same shape as my family, and it was pretty intrigued that anyway. I'm not saying I didn't want to read about people like me. But there is a real paucity of stuff and what broke my heart. was that as soon as my was old enough to play with little. Playmobil Bill. Lego Dolly's herself and be like this is the dispersed. Soon as she got to that age, every single game she invented had a mommy and daddy and the kids. I mean every single guy. Is She, tell you as well. She could it from Pepsi and things like that and the kids on the street he tend to have. A mounikou assess but. She's never I've never seen her Russia's story. Single Parent family never seen her build a house for single parent families. and. That's why this book I think is so is so needed like the up to the you by about when you went on a first date and you still breastfeeding. And I people are going through that. Where where is that in our in our culture and an I wanted i. mean do you think maybe this is a big question? But I do feel like in this molten weld th there's a lot of women I I've seen out there. Who will definitely going to loan very like on purpose, wanting to alone intentional single moms with the sperm Denver is a friend or gay friend Yes. Sure I mean. My best friend from school is literally just. Has just given birth. To her first chart, which she's done through diner and chat travel. Different countries have treatment and takes various attempts. Yeah I mean it's funny. When I go to certain parts America like an ally. If I say Oh, no, it's just me and my family. Singapore and they'll go. Oh, yeah, Donna! Don't make no not donor I did get pregnant. The sort of old fashioned accidentally. Explained in my book, but you know it's funny. Nobody in England has ever said Dona Baby, but in other parts of the world is much more. Common and expected. It's interesting. I did think when my who's younger. I'm not going to have any more kids, but you think. Oh! Should I have a second child of my? Still? You sort of think my God I finally had the baby not still going to have this question of. Should, I should I use this poem. Diana should I to a gay friend who maybe has always wanted to have his own family as well I was like my God. You've got a three year old and you're still. This dilemma and it's funny I still. Wait up the options in my head and I. What hopefully my book shows is that I didn't become somebody he'd had with the answers. You don't necessarily want to be the post to go for. Single moms offer intentional impact families in net. Through today, but it's. My life is being. Sort of series of happy host is and I. You know I don't necessarily know what the answer is. Yet, that's really interesting, so I think anyone should just be the post a person for for movement over a trend for lifestyle. It's like why do we pin that pin? That responsibility on say many women, the I did think the book is, so it's so joyful as well because I think as well. It was for someone who isn't sure whether she wants children. which I don't I just don't know I really enjoyed reading. You know like you knew you want it. You didn't know that you wanted a child, but what was funny as the nobody else knew that I wanted to child and fact when people found out that I was. Accidentally pregnant. They weren't massively. But when they find out I was keeping it. They were really shocked. So it's funny as well I is that. Do we look women in a certain well? She's not maternal. She's go have enough because I was having a good time I was parties I was getting drunk I. Mean I'm not saying you can uphold that lifestyle is among you want to do justice to a child. You do have to change, but the idea you know. I was always very friendly, very sociable. Very sort of you know Huckabee Person So. To my mind. You know I was great at playing with friends children. I'm really imaginative. I love mcadoo stories, and being silly and ponds, and who these things with cared about society. So why did none of my friends thing I could be? Maternal what does that mean that quite interesting? Yes, so so interesting well like you show in the book. That's not one way of doing anything. No, there's no one way and that's and that's what I love is. Is this the fir- experience on life and travel and stories, and it's like well. Caitlin Moran has always said that there's no there's no such thing as failure. Really like anything that goes wrong. Just makes a really good anecdote. And I love that I. Think Russell Brand once said. My life is basically being a series of humiliating incidents. Waving together boy the retailing of those. Incidents. Reading my book could arguably be described such, but. What's funniest friends of mine much more organized? You know through my twenty s i. did think whereas that I. Don't have the Kit wit. And I didn't have to my mid thirties, but friends of mine in their twenties, girlfriends of mine who were much talking straight win, and who were much more like to get married want to have a ring on my finger house. I wanted to have a baby within two to three is the kind of five year plan friends who I seem to have a lot of think because I'm different from people. Feed off, you know people organize. People want that crazy friend and the crazy person needs a source sane sober person to. Be, saved by so I've got quite a lot of close girlfriends, who a much more grounded an organized in me and actually that level of control when you've planned it out. I think what having a baby brings to anybody. Is a loss of control and you have to. Surrender to that, and if you can't surrender to it, and you keep trying to control and the screaming as the vomit and this a shed, the has gone out the window, and your relationship with your partner might be going into difficult strange territory that you never saw coming. And your sense of yourself is sort of collapsing overnight. I was kind of a k with all that stuff. I'd never expected to have any control anyway, never expected to wake up the same person the next day who had been the day before, and I didn't know what. I I was doing in five years. Anyway I would say women with more control than lives have possibly found parenting harder than I have. Yeah, it's I think the loss of control thing actually is very comforting to watch to watch someone just go with the flow of life. It's quite contagious. I think you Kinda. WanNa be more I want to be more like that and I. Think shown us this year twenty twenty. The Year of absolutely hell is that none of us can plan anything anyway. Yeah, and this has been a year or a lot of people. Five Year. Plan is out the window and everyone's had to. You know nobody's been able to do the thing and I did the start of lockdown I mean I'm not saying I found easy. All the I fan. Parenting is my God. I'm not suggesting I'm someone who's GonNa Together, but about the first month of lockdown when people are really suffering and I was really suffer. We were we fighting are demons. I was a bit like. Oh, it's this again. Because being at home on your own with a new baby and new partner and at the time. I had her move back from America a months before giving birth so all my old social groups in London Economy John Site didn't have like all my best friends there on the doorstep, and I had to rent a knee place in a different part time live before. Circumstantial so. The, first year of my daughter's life came flooding back to major in the coronavirus lockdown, so many memories came flooding back Amal's account that we can do this. We can just do it. I wonder if how I wonder how many people are feeling weirdly kind of like a thicker layer skin? You know we're going to look back and think Oh my God we through that is amazing. We can kind of get through on a thing then as cheesy as that sounds well so like if this book to come out and that. I mean how how he feeling launching a book and lockdown I mean I've I've been asked that over and over, but I I'm really curious. I mean I'm I'm feeding? I am fading disappointed because I had loads of lovely events lined up as I'm sure you did and like meeting readers is going to call the joy of it. I think it's GONNA reach people in a new way and I think this book is going to definitely reach people and I think people need books and escapism more than more than ever, so it's a good time for it to come out. I think he's a great time of night. Is that people? Share. Will you concerns of notice that we're speaking a time? When the shops no shops have just about star opening now and I've noticed legs of excitement about bookshops opening I, think I've had more people talk about bookshops opening than clothes shops me because as an issue with trying the clothes on with the book, he just take it. But you know I feel that people have really excited people. Saying I'll just want to browse. Don't want to go on the website I. Just want to stand there and. Look at fifty different book covers and I thought well. That's going to be nice for my book to come out at time when people may be aren't going to go to a Gig that night, then able to to a nightclub. You know there's no live music. That kind of stuff is still locked down. Say the one exciting trip how they can be. have is to go to somewhere like waterstones, and then they come home that evening, and hoping the restaurants and pubs is still they didn't have to read by. But yeah, and I guess you know. People Planning Big Holidays I mean we still don't know lots of people wanNA money, and they're going to be stuck at home. Wherever so I do think it could be a great time for a book to come out if all. Is Bookshops and sitting in the house ideal. Well because I read your book right at the beginning of lockdown when? Dealing the most and actually started my book club that week, because I realized how much books were saving me and my mental health, and over not only person he was struggling with that. Paul in that department, but I read your book during a really really anxious week. And I loved it because I was in la with you is in London with you. I was going to the pub I was like in your world and 'cause you. You, really take the reader into your life, and it was a real experience. Just everyone needs to read it. Oh, I'm thrilled I'm thrilled to hear that you had to these places not so ready. It's so strange the power of language because he just got back from some paper seriously, but it's lonely. Talk to you and I love control out to lead how fun to be on it. Good luck with the book launch and yeah hopefully. It goes into many Rita's hands as possible. The thank you amazing, thank you.

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Kate Hudson: Actress &amp; Fabletics Co-Founder [Rebroadcast]

No Limits with Rebecca Jarvis

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Kate Hudson: Actress &amp; Fabletics Co-Founder [Rebroadcast]

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My guest today is someone who completely mastered the romantic comedy, she grew up in a family of artists almost went to NYU, but instead opted to defer to pursue acting and travel the world not a bad decision considering that shortly thereafter, she landed her breakout role as penny lane in almost famous which scored her an Oscar nomination and a Golden Globe award today in addition to her fulltime acting career she runs her own production company, and is the co founder of fab medics one of the fastest growing brands athletic wear Kate Hudson. Welcome to no limits. It's it's so exciting to have you here with me how to lose a guy in ten days is probably one of the few films. I've maybe at this point seen more than twenty times. Because if it's on I'm watching it. So. Thank you. So you're born in LA raised by your mom, Goldie Hawn and Kurt Russell that had to be the most fun childhood. Well, I had a great childhood. I I mean fun. Yeah. We had a lot of fun. I don't I had probably more of a normal child traditional childhood than people would probably think really coming from. Yeah. Well, we moved to Colorado, and we were really little, and yeah, we just sort of had a ranch life for a while. And then I mean, obviously as you get older you start to realize that people see your parents differently. But to us just our parents, and we had a great childhood because there was so much love, and they were very present. Parents surprisingly for the the the how big their careers were. Did you always want to act? Yeah. Yeah. I actually no no it wasn't acting. That was my focus but performing. Yeah. I mean, I just was like. Gimme a spotlight and all of a sudden like my whole that hair would stand up on the back of my neck. And like, I always thought I'd sing and dance. And then, you know, I started additioning as you do just as a performer for anything, really. And I just started acting. I was very lucky to to get a lot of rolls really young. I think about that auditioning process, and that can do a number on it does set you up for for the heavy scrutiny and the criticism that comes with success definitely auditioning processes as as brutal as it gets can make you feel really down on yourself. And I had a coupla experiences that I don't like talking about because it just becomes something other than what it was. But you know, it takes tough skin to kind of get through certain experiences. But you know, it's worth it. I if you can't handle that then you're not going to be able to handle. Any kind of success? So I kind of just kept my head down. And just did it, you know, that's how you may refer you. It just you know, I come from a real work you be family. Right. So the work ethic, and our families, really huge. They definitely instill an all of their kids. So you know, you go to work go to work. And so that's how I felt about additioning. It was just basically do your job. Do it the best. You can we're not like one of those families. That's like I'm gonna come in here manipulate you charm, MC make you feel like it's like, no, I'm just gonna United do. Yeah. I want to sell you a car. Yeah. Exactly. So I then there was somewhere. I would you know, if you're not right for something. And there's a lot of times for women. There's certain roles that you look at near like, I am. So not, you know, they're just the the descriptions are they want an orange diamond. Apple, right. Exactly. What are the descriptions like, there's all kinds of descriptions of women, you know, you know, mid twenties Corky short haired, little Spitfire like comes in whatever. And then there's like this tall, you know, classically beautiful woman. And so here you are trying to like be you know, all of that. Or there's like, you know, the sort of plain simple, you know, I, and I think you're right for someone or not right for others. You know, and then as an actor you're like, I gotta do anything. No, you can't always be necessarily. What directors looking for is there? One of those descriptions that you just that you would love to a role that you'd like to play in the future that you have to do like an action moving, you know, I haven't done that yet. And you're so physical too. So that thank you for saying that, that's I'm very physical. And I'm very athletic grew up on ranch. You know, and I my dad is Kurt. So eventually, I'd like to do something that's more physical. Thank you could see that would be something really fun throwing down. Yeah. The fun throw down a little bit get a little sort of fighting going refund. I I have some bucket lists one thing. I'd like to do on film is to like really run on a horse like a long shot where I get to be unlike field and just like, let the horse go that would be awesome, total diversion here. But filming with animals is very difficult. I was on a horse for very random thing. The horse was so afraid of the camera and on top of that. I'm not a horseback rider. I was so scared. So my face the whole like we got the shot, but my face the entire shot is like. Scared. No, you can't do that. You're not going to get the part. Okay. So you get into NYU I do. And then you decided you convinced your parents, basically that you needed. I just wanted to take a year off and and work and it kinda worked out. I mean more than kind of worked out it was it was a great year. It was a great year. It was a lot of travel. I got to see a lot of the world on my own which was really amazing, and I got really excited about my future. And then as much as I now wish that I did have NYU experience, you know, life presents itself. Timing wise, the way it's supposed to I guess, and so I have no regrets. But you know, I I. You know, there's a little part of me. That's like, oh, it would have been so fun to NYU. So great. And there's still time. Yeah. Right. I can always. Oh, back always go. I'm sure they'd honor that original you already got in with almost famous breakthrough penny lane in that moment. Did it start to feel like Hollywood or celebrity when you grow up and something that's just what you know. It doesn't feel weird to you. It just feels like your life. Right. So whereas it might feel weird for me to like grow up with, you know, scholarly professor intellectuals like, wow, what's up that must have been really interesting and amazing, and they're like, well, my parents, you know, that's basically how I felt about our life. And also, my parents aren't like real fans of the whole smoke and mirrors thing. It's just not who they are at all. And so it's sort of lends to different perspective of how other people see Hollywood as to how we is a family kind of saw the success of almost famous. You know at the at the same time, I was madly in love and and looking at my life and excited about my future in this new relationship. And so there was this great balance of like grounded family, and and sort of all other things in the noise around. It was just this great experience. But to me, it just sort of meant like, oh, great. I'm going to have a I have a real career. You know, because I I do love it. As a matter of fact, that's something Kurt said to me at the Oscars congratulate after I lost, congratulations. You can now go have your career. And I was like, oh such a great thing to say because it's just starting and and I was twenty one. So it was kind of amazing to have that so young and then just start working and having that kind of demand at a young age is, you know, just incredible. And I just wanted to always work really hard and continue to enjoy the process instead of all the stuff that goes with it. I think there's this weird thing that happens. That people think for some reason if your parents are famous that means that you need need to be famous. Right. I get such weird questions growing up, you know, g ever feel competitive if your mom's like what kind of question is that it's so far removed from the reality of what it is to come from a family of artists. Right. So people see the celebrity is like, oh, they're just a celebrity in this completely sort of insanely celebrity focused World War. You know? And you forget like, no, I'm I'm not a salon. I'm I I'm a storyteller. I see myself as an artist, and my parents are artists, and we the way we work and the things that you wanna do like. Yeah. Their success in it. But it doesn't mean that that takes the artistry away from it or the passion that comes from. You know, it's like if everybody took it away every aspect of your fame. Would you still want to be an actor the answers? Absolutely. So it's like people's perception is very different than say your own. And that's why. I think you see a lot of actors sometimes were be rebellious because people don't necessarily understand that that kind of attention sort of takes them away from this place that a lot of introverted artists liked to be in which is not seen. You know, you become an actor because you're playing these characters I don't wanna be a personality to you. I wanted to be in my roles, I want to concentrate on my art, isn't there? Some people like myself who I don't have that kind of introverted personality. I'm much happier. Sort of be like. But, but I would never I would never fault anybody for having that kind of reaction to fame or people saying like, yeah. But you got into this because you wanted to be famous in. It's like a lot of people go actually just want to be reactor. So at that moment in my life, again, it was sort of this like great flashy time. But it was also a time for me to start the work, which was great. And now you have taken on a new role of businesswoman. Yeah. What made you do that with fab leading? Well, I think there are some people who are very right brained. And then there are some people who are very linear, very left brain. And then for me, I think I've always sat somewhere in the middle. Right. It's like I can't I can't go full left. I can't go full linear. I'll go crazy. Right. I need to like shut it off and get weird and creative. But I like busy work I like being busy. And then I think as you get older. You start to look at and you have kids and you have a family. I don't wanna have to leave all the time. And when you make movies, it does take you away from your kids and your family as a single mom, that's really hard. So being able to do this and do other businesses and invest in different things gives me an opportunity to be more at home with my family and on top of schoolwork and. All the projects and school drop offs and everything that soccer and baseball football lays, endless, right? So it allows me to be able to have a real workday. And so when I start thinking about moving into more business type stuff this fab lettuce was something that I wanted to get into fashion, but I want I really liked talking about things that I'm passionate about. I like being apart something that feels like it matters. At least to me, it's hard to just choose a random business and throw your I have not been talking product. You know, I'm good at talking about things that I feel like our meaningful or maybe can be meaningful to to certain women and men and I do love stuff. You know? I love girly stuff. What are the things you love and your stuff love like? I love products. I close I've definitely a girl girl, you know, a girly girl. I'm a sucker for a great beauty product. If someone has something on like a color that I love and like with that car. You know, I just I just like it. It's fun. And and I don't think those things make girls happy. It's very ancient isn't it's very ritualistic. When as for as a woman, you put yourself together or you like certain oils or sense, and how you sort of present yourself, and what makes you feel good? And it's a real version of self expression, some women really into it. Some of them are I'm Superindent. So I really think it's important that the focus is really about where where you're at in your life. You know, I always say that you could have the great skin. You could have the great makeup on you could have the great outfit on. But if you ain't happy, you ain't happy, and you're not gonna be your Optum self. What's more? Stressful starting a company or starring in a film. We'll be right back after a quick word from our sponsor when it comes to hiring. You don't have time to waste you need help getting to your shortlist of qualified candidates fast. That's why you need indeed dot com. Get started today at indeed dot com slash no limits. That's indeed dot com slash no limits capital. One is building a better Bank one that feels and acts nothing like a typical Bank. That's why they're reimagining banking and building something completely different. They offer accounts with no fees or minimums Capital One. This is banking reimagined. What's in your wallet capital? One. In a what's more stressful starting a company or starring in a film kids now? But yeah, you know, I sometimes think when I'm working working moms, you know, this God, you're working mom too. Let me tell you what's heart a stale mom without help without family. There's a lot of women who, you know, have no help and are just doing everything they can for their kids. And that is that is the big job. It really is an I'm I'm lucky enough to have the means to, you know, be able to work and have have a great support system that allows me to be able to, you know, be here in New York right now to do all of this. I think it's because in your work life, you can manage the things that you wanna be doing in that day. What you know, you need to reach or what you know needs to happen or what needs needs to get on someone's desk. Or what numbers you're not hitting or you know in that can be stressful. But your kids it is not your time. You know what I mean? Like when you're raising your kids, and they wanted to there is no part of that your life becomes your children, which is amazing. But you know, a lot of women who don't have time to themselves don't have time to themselves. And I think that's a really important thing for all women. And but so I I actually think that is the hardest job I was gonna say with fab medics actually is fun. Sometimes you come see. I mean it it's hard. I mean the tie that meaning that not hard meaning not like hard. It's hard. Meaning that the hours are long, and you know, it's it is mentally exhausting in the sense that you know, depending on what your day is. But like there's days that you're sitting on set. And you know, you're basically just sitting in a trailer for hours and hours until it's time for you to go, you know, work and some days, it's like, well, what am I doing like, well, we're going to get a shot of you. It's an exterior shot of you leaving. The apartment and walking to the car and you sit in your trailer, then us today, and you're like, oh, okay. And if anyone ever said like my job is hard. I'd be like come on. That was awesome. Are you getting you know, but as my life gets busier, those trailer moments are not necessarily relaxing trailer moments. You know, I'm constantly working at this point. But it's great. It's great. I like it that way what it comes. If fabrics how involved are you in the day to day pretty involved? I wouldn't say data days my robot. Yes. I mean, there's something FedEx I'm doing pretty much every day. But I'm not in the office every day. I also have my production company. And so I'm so nowadays, everything that I need to see people can Email me the times that I come into the office are usually big design meetings. We do you know, some monthly's where we get everyone together. Make sure we're all on the same page the involvement for me is everybody always asks me. An owner in the company. So it's everything, you know. It's anything from looking at budgeting for marketing and how we're utilizing our budgets to design. If things are going the way that, you know, I'm happy with or maybe certain things need some changes. We've got an awesome design team of a lot. I mean, you know, it's it's a very very well oiled machine at this point with the design team. So we're pushing twenty one to maybe thirty outfits a month, which is a lot. So you know, it's not just like we're doing a season. Right. So then we go as most fashion brands were a year ahead. And it's just constant, basically, it's constant new ideas and anything that I wanna push forward is going to be at this point. Right. We would have to be full, you know, the quarter for in fall, which is two thousand eighteen right? And that's how on way in advance. It says super low in advance. So I really love the marketing part of it though. I have to say, you know, and also strategizing on media buys, and where where we need to be sort of pushing out more more media buys and things like that. How did you learn the whole business I between this Andrew production company? We'll production companies sort of a very easy transition when you love making movies. I grew up making movies with my brothers. You know, it only made sense that the three of us would start a production company. And so we just tell stories, but we're also we like business, right? So even in production means there's things that are passion projects that you know, that are going to be very hard to get off the ground that you want to keep pushing forward. But you know, I you also want to like kind of invent new interesting ways to to put, you know, content on whether it be short-form digital or all there's there's all kinds of. Great ways. And we now a days. All this stuff is out there. You can totally experiment and play with it. Absolutely. An on top of that. You know, we've got all these friends that are so talented, and there's all these places that that things can sit at this point, and you can utilize your friends in a business now and Hollywood, which is the studio system is is not the place that you have these relationships anymore to kind of experiment. But now everybody wants to work together on the on a more independent way and focused and get independent financing and things like that. It's kinda fun 'cause you sort of do it yourself. You know, and I I love that. That's my that's my number one love. But I think as you get older, there's, you know, my mom always says like where if you're going to have a platform where can you be impactful? I think that there is a crossover between the arts and business for certain types of women who've liked to think like that. And and I've got a lot of friends like that. And it's I think it's important to just follow that to see you know, to see it all through and for me health, wellness, fitness fun. That's my that's my whole thing. That's your spas. Sweet spot fabrics is a great start for me in terms of the things that I've been able to accomplish in my life. And this is a great accomplishment. I mean, it's the success has been enormous. And now, we're we're we're doing extended sizes. So now, we go from like extra extra small two three x. So it just feels like we're continuing to be more and more inclusive to everyone and hopefully get that message out of fun fit. Happy people. Speaking of inclusivity, Emma Thomson. I don't know if you saw it. She was talking about the pressure that she felt in Hollywood. She. A comment about the level of anorexia in Hollywood and the pressure that both women now and male actors feel did you ever come across that kind of pressure. No. No, I actually think personally from my experience that pressure comes from outside media like us what ABC and everybody else does. Well, I think that the focus is like why are we even talking about this, do you know what I mean? Like, you know, I think there's a there's there's a lot of different shapes in Hollywood. And that they they are embrace. I think that there are some roles that have different types of body shapes and different types of you know, if I'm going to be, you know, playing a drug addict, then I'll probably have to lose some weight, and hopefully you do that and very healthy way. If I'm going to be playing, you know voluptuous woman in the fifties, then I'll probably have to gain some weight, and hopefully I'll do that in a healthy way. I think that from my experience that I've had about the outside looking into that prompt always come from certain types of media. Outlets the sort of what what image. They're putting out what they think ascetic -ly makes more sense for them. And then the continuous sort of dialogue that seems to always be, you know, it's like it's incessant. Yeah. I mean, but then again like aren't we used to this by now, I think it's a bigger issue than just that? It's it's everything it's beauty. It's how people sort of scrutinize women. It's just you know, we've been this has been happening for forever. This is not anything. I liked it. We're talking about it in a way that actually says like, yeah. Well, it's it's nice that people are actually recognizing now that we are highly scrutinized. But it's not I mean, it's still happening. It's like shift the looks and the weight and the thing like shift even the way that you're talking about it. And let's just talk about like. More about how people are feeling in their lives. And like, you know, are they happy are they healthy? Are they you know, what what brings them? What brings them sort of joy energy? I don't know. I just I just think the whole thing with wait, wait. So what do you think, you know? I just even to address it becomes part of the issues you talking about health. We to baton you wanna talk about that. Let's talk about food. It's talk about what's going on in the food industry. Like, how do you make you know, all there's so many other things to be talking about? And I think the pressure is not just Hollywood. I think pressure is everywhere. I think women across the country and the world in certain places feel an enormous amount of pressure. And I don't think that that comes from Hollywood. So I think it is a bigger much larger issue personally, I love asking this question of people. We all get ad vice and a lot of the time people ask about good advice. I like to ask what the worst advice. Okay. You ever got was curious to know. Maybe it's in the context of business that you got bad advice. This is a good question. Yeah. Worst advice I've ever gotten. It's funny because you you get bad advice all the time. Right. Don't you? I mean, yes, the truth is is that people always have something to say about things. And you're like, you know, what? I mean, like, I when people sort of just give advice when they don't really the internet is full of advice. I'm sure you've probably received more advice than the average person. Just because of all the things you've seen in your lifetime. I mean, the best advice have got was it's a lot better to tell the truth than it is to even engage in withholding or telling a lie because you never have to clean up any messes right cleaning, it up is worse than the actual thing said the cover up is worse than the crime. Right. Yeah. So just always be a straight shooter. Always be honest. That's always been one of my things and end that voter abilities, actually strength. It's such a funny thing when people feel like it's hard for them to be vulnerable. But then the more that you allow that you realize that it's actually not as vulnerable as you think once you allow owners to come out you're sort of like, oh, it's actually not that this is this is actually kind of a more of a strength than it is a supposed- weaken. Thank you so much. Really enjoyed this conversation is nice. Thanks so much for listening to another episode of no limits. 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The comic genius of Jennifer Saunders

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The comic genius of Jennifer Saunders

"This is an ABC podcast. The three most important women in post war Britain are of course, the Queen Margaret Thatcher and Jennifer Saunders Hey. There is little hope of the first getting on this program. But we do have Jennifer Saunders today years Jennifer Saunders as infringing Saunders as in Edina from absolutely fabulous Jennifer Saunders and a whole other Jennifer Saunders besides she's written a memoir decidedly, not a misery memoir, even though it does have a few mishaps in its begins with a head, being clocked by swing and ends with a seriously unpleasant about breast cancer. It's not kissing tillman. Why but it is surprisingly intimate and reading. It feels like spending a weekend hanging out with her in the country, getting to know her, which is awkward because Jennifer doesn't be from above soap. NON-MUSLIM MS is hugely enjoyable, and it's called bonkers my life in Bluffs Jennifer. Does welcome. Thank you eleven. TRAE you're. Perfectly, normal. Here thank you. That three lines popped into way not broadcasting. Now. Reveal yourself to be a shocking procrastinator in then you will really. There is a bit of a bear all in that. When it comes to that I'm turn, get procrastination actually registered as disease so. I can go to a clinic and be treated. Because it's just it it does. In harnesses your life for it does the opposite and I. Never Tell which I just i. just wish. I didn't have it. How did you actually finally get yourself to sit down and actually wrote the book? What did it take to get you? That'll do the pressure of having to send the money back. Is actually the because my my editors and he said you know you have to do this and I, promised my husband I wouldn't finish this holiday because we books a holiday and he said you gotTa. Finish that book because I will not have you ruining our holiday, and of course I, didn't so I had to get up early every morning, and and write the book, and actually it was that pressure the pressure of the kids who are going to come downstairs and go. We're all going out. What are you? GonNa do. Put I WANNA go out to. I want to go on a boat and drink beer and. So that eventually forced me to do it. First of all, my editor was wasting. My my agent was poised to send the money back. What do you typically do to avoid writing? What do you? Can you describe yourself? Do very important things like sweeping, I do a lot of importance sweeping it should. I sweet I would sweep bring than I think I would have been good at curling because I would have been a very good sweeper. I often think that I think. Even during the corners, scrubbing in front of. Goldie Hawn. What did you in Ruby Rex to rod film script for her? About a woman who goes? This is already funny, transformative experience in India. Why was it so hard to write that for her? Because we were. Writing Films we thought we could do it. Well Ruby from me up, and she said go the Hall Monster Film Jennifer. We can do it at a week and three years later. Really finished it. This was despite a trip to India giving because we wanted to write a certain sort of film and Goldie wanted us to write the film. She does too right. I think that was the problem and she was such a nice person, and she took me an ruby on a fantastic couple of weeks to India. extrordinary things happened. And so we I don't know why. We didn't feel more beholden, but we didn't. We just messed about what was the scene. She really wanted in the movie that you and okay Ruby just couldn't bring yourself to right fit. And we had to came straight straight straight faces where she described this. Sir, she said okay. There's this guy. And he's a friend of mine, and it's a true story and he's a friend of mine. And, he's a cripple. Broke his neck see dived into pool without any water in it. And I was with I went to his house one day, and they were playing. Believe it or not Barbara streisand. And And he looked up at me anyway Goldie Goldie. With me and I said I can't as I'm not strong enough, and he's an his mother came in, and said no goalie. You are strong enough and I picked him up and danced. That's the story she wanted in the in the in the film and we just couldn't bring us. Oh, S- right I don't know why. I see. Loss our last conversation was with the Golden. Business partner. We knew we breached really reached the end it was like three years later, and she rang me and Ruby up, and she said. Is there any way you can get the cripple into the? Soon. He said No. The phone went down and we knew he'd been fired. The weird thing is when I started to write all those stories in the book. Because I have all the faxes, the weird thing is I heard and I. Did. Every single facts card notes that came back before it's from forming Goldie and when I, I write the story. I thought that Goldie was more the butter, the joke, and what the film she wanted to write with the butter. And I realized whereas writing it that it was me and Ruby, that Complete Idiots, complete fools affects us the Hilarious, because they're always begin now you must be very angry with me. Now I must be getting stony stairs from you across the Atlantic, the moments from my failure to tune in anything like a script and I will knuckle down I will. I will knuckle down. down. That was the day before you could just email things because she couldn't name thanks, we all had a fax things. We'll send them in hard copy, and not. You know we couldn't do it. I know why you couldn't put that scene in the book, but I have no idea how you could tell Goldie Hawn. Why I can't go in the in the movie say. Very hard to tell people it. It's very hard in. Know to think well. Actually, that's too funny. That's very cheesy asking us to do and we want to write off ill by the way. But we have some good jokes in it, and and I still see Golden. We still speak, so she's renewed you. Don't think she's ever forgiveness, but she will speak to us. That, she took you expenses by different. Eye. Catching believe how bad we were. Actually we were really bad naughty. You even sit into effects you a transformed by the experience I said so many nice and lying faxes. I'm ashamed. Let's find out the origins of this shocking liar and progressed Childhood Your Dad was in the Rif. You move around a lot from place to place. How do you think that affected you moving around? This ago. Well I mean I suppose. You think you don't really think about it when you're doing it because it's just the way life goes, you don't really have a permanent home. You move every two or three years I went to seven schools. Two of them twice. Remarkably. Back again, hello could do come in Do you remember your old friends and and You know I think. I think you get used to blending in I. Think a lot of people think well. You must have become the class clown because. You had suddenly make yourself popular. The Big Group of people and I sort of think that I I didn't do that. I I sort of blended in I sort of learned how to work the space. There's the good girls. There's the bad girls. There's the horrible ones. There's the clever ones. And now just sort of just sort of melded, so you become adept at reading the culture quite quickly, ask. You Saving Yeah. I was very good at not putting my head above the parapet. You're dead. Sounds lovely in the book Ubuntu Lovely Portrait of. Lovely Guy! What kind of comedy was in? The house was playing on the telly. A making fun of people I mean if he had a story, he would always do impersonation of someone, and he was very down on anything that was pompous or you know pretentious. I think pomposity him pretentiousness with with his his big hatreds He didn't even like even those in the Air Force. He never really used his rancor search, or he didn't really believe in all that stuff, and he would always take the mickey out of anyone who did this. It was a man down. The road called himself commander. Commodity Commander Commander? Come onto what I didn't use his real name. because. I did use it in the am in the set of. You call it comports actually printed. Straw I draft that's well well. Bar! I used to in the first. and. My. Mother said you can't. You absolutely can't do that because he may still. I couldn't stand the humiliation so I changed his name, but yes, my father would say to come in the book commander. Cox. Medical. Cox Cox's here Hello Commander Commander coxed. Milder Cox's here. Jayme get some to focus on to Cox and we don't be laughing and laughing and laughing as kids. Because my dad with this. We knew what he was doing it. And the general default mode in our house was was laughter. You printed some excerpts from your diary that she wrote as a fourteen year old bridge, which was pretty shocking radio one entry here because you would fourteen. Watched telly. Eight enormous t! Watched Cliff Richard and the secrets on songs of praise. I love you folks. That was noteworthy. Man You lost. Two to one went to bed at midnight. All go with you. Stop and start in the morning I. Bet I just got up and fed some chickens. Fitted a secret code for your diary. Lock the code. What was what was inside the knowing nothing it was. Quite a lot in a secret and the secret code was. Elements of the letter, a capital letter a very hard to decipher from the fact that I wrote the actual. The Code Key in the front of the territory anybody could have made and the one secret thing that I kept writing list. I would like velvet hacking jackets. For those of You I thought it was like hey snuffed behind the bike sheds or Sneaky cigarette. My Want I. Want a Velvet Hacking Jacket, which is a riding jacket and I. Just I never see though- I've got to have. That was naughty to admit to such longing for such a vein accessory. I don't know unless I got the key wrong. Key said I could have been the wrong key. Maybe that was the key to throw. Throw me off the scent. Maybe Velvet Hacking Hacking Jackie was a boyfriend. Hacking jacket. Picture of your headmistress miss. The thought worthy of inclusion of a special photo if she looks like Nas, Virata, and she did look like Nas for us. In fact, that's very good. Yeah, SKELETAL SKELETAL! Dark hair and green was wearing black gowns and furious the whole time fear has the whole time. How did she strike terror into the hearts of her students? She as she, she didn't just not the students alone, also the staff. The staff were terrified of this woman she was she was horrible. He was vile. She was evil. And she and her friend in inverted commerce. Miss K. P. who was the teacher. religious religious Rod. KP. Cook, Patrick They used to tour around the town in their car. As the girls were leaving school and going home in case, any of the girls took off their red berry. Because, we had to wear red. Berry you know our head Berry. Berry was just a big rent berry. Beret ahead, and if any go was found not with the Beret, on they were taken to its. But literally they were sort of. They were taking somewhere awful and Kane. How was she gets sport? She Oh, my God. She only play cricket. And the school didn't really play cricket. We didn't have a cricket team. The search but misdiagnose thought that every. Every sports day they would be a staff against girls cricket match. and. I was thinking. We tend play. Cricket would have play Hooky, but a pit should be up in front of all the parents that had come for the day and. Opening remember Miss. Stein's in full whites full wise, full, baggy trousers, full white shirt and CRAVAT and CRAVAT and with her with a bat would stride out miss bonds, who was the very very frightened? deputy-head was the empire, and remember striding out of course went to the crease, banged a bit with her bat kicked it a bit, did a bit of this and that, and then I ego was had to do the first ball to bowl and I remember running up and literally bowling under to Miss Dines got out I remember time she got out, and there was silence virtually. The whole of Cheshire was silent at that moment and I could see misbehaves. and. Actually the word no bull I. Miss. Them when come on and continue. So that political had to bow again? No one ever got misdiagnose out. She was actually I think nowadays. She wouldn't be allowed near children now she's she was. Yeah I mean she used to came girls and she was eventually to choose taken to court for. Battery years. The local paper reported. It was like a victory for discipline in schools when you speak. With an image of a body. She had. And people member stories of how she would beat them so hard that she ask them to pull this skirts up and hold them in in in in front of them. Bend over, and then she would Cain them and she came them so hard that the whole Cane Ben, and hit the knuckles. Holding up the skirts, what would whip brought a rally around hit their knuckles. You hit by her now. I went to her office about three times for small things, obviously evil horrible bad things that I was doing like not wearing the red sox. And Got Away with with you know just lines or detentions blow to the head, but she did once I remember the school bell once went in the middle of the day when it wasn't the end of lessons and everyone was cool to the hall and in Stockton now, what was going on, and so we will call all sat down Miss. Stein's got up on stage. Towing a girl. And proceeded to wash. This goes mouth out or make the go wash mouth out with soap and the whole school watched because she'd sworn. She safely did Mr Safely take did did and you know she was retired in bed? Tacoma's from the school and my mother sent me a picture because I was away. My sent me a picture of. Her retiring in her leaving presence, and it was a picture of two six form girls presenting her with a shotgun. Absolute truth, Is the truth. Was Unbelievable you think how appropriate now please go news it. She was horrible. She didn't send the Self Clock Tower and far it passes. That! You were given career advice by the school careers officers as you said just the. Beginning on the side, you said You had chosen a strange mix of subjects and should apply immediately to become a dental. This this relief. You know where to go was out of school, I think. They were just reading from a form. Yeah, I mean that, was it? I mean I did try and go to some universities. And none of them would have made. I say why because I. saw this. Is such a vibrant personality. It's so much to give. Game, but I was always let down by my interviews. For after after. The, push you out of the house. And she she decided that I was going nowhere, which was the truth and she my gap year, which was actually the were? No one wants you to go to university she. Got Me! A job was no path in Italy and so I went in there for about six months. And that. When I came home, she had similar forms ready of all the vacancies in all the colleges in Britain, and she said right. Where do you WANNA go? I said London should write this collision under. You're going to go down there. You're going to have an interview and if you get in, that's where you go. So. That's what I did that would that. That's how you got into the Central School of speech and drama. On a teaching course. There at the same time as Rupert Everett, who on this He said the main thing he learnt that. was to whisker. You remember Wiscon-. Showed for me, actually go cherish. Crashed down on the ground, and you reach down in. Lusaka. And that's makes you a big pre things. Loss of actors doing a bit of a whisker. But um the actors notation coast didn't really mix although I. do remember seeing Rupa and he never took anything seriously. He was generally in trouble on all an I. think he was He he left a native. Simply kick. That actually was. At the beginning of the book inside an egg, and so he's doing French. She's also learning to be a drive at Teachers College. What was the point to the egg? The point was well I think we were given experiences and the idea was that we'd learned to. If we did something then we could ask children to do. We'd experience the use of imagination and all that sort of thing and. That's. How was how did the work well we had to make. An Egg of newspaper and we would be inside the egg, so everyone would have to help everyone else like themselves in newspaper, and you'd be inside the egg. As there was an actual actual EG or was it just erupted? Basically in. A newspaper Egg. We had to imagine we were. We were going to be borne out of this egg. And is about fifteen sixteen. On the studio floor and Lecturer, we'll turn the light off and said. Come out in your own time. Come out. You don't know where you are. You could be in a new world. You might have language. You might not have language you might be angry might not be angry and we all right. That's fine, okay. They switch the light off and then you sort of stuck in the economic thinking. Essay. It's quite nice in this little little egg, and you could hear people laughing. You could see some people being quite serious about it and doing grunting noises of something. Well. My staying here because I didn't actually wanted to be the first person to come out of the not so. Much. Fun Is it then I'm going to have to make up something for an awful long time so I remember staying in the eventually hearing. Hearing my friend, Joe, laughing and laughing, and say for coming out of the and I go yeah, come out the Ackerman. We've made little holes and have a look, and they'll be students running around grunting, enjoy being neandertal and trying to grab it. Just reminded me and doing my friend job loafing and laughing and laughing. You say don the was a great plate spinner. Tell me what you mean by that. It's great. Plates. Okay. That's truly. Yes. Yes, we're. Never seen that but. Yes know what I mean is when you're doing many making it comedy. What you can't have if you're having a conversation with someone is a full stop. You have to keep things going. You have to have someone. If you have an idea that takes that idea for would create something else off it. In order to get somewhere because I think often people. People imagine if you writing comedy. Then, they'll say this, and then they'll say that. No, they won't say that I. Don't think that's funny. Enough. Okay, what should we say they say and that's immediately. You've lost the impetus and what you need. I think when you're writing. Especially, improvising is just someone that keeps keeps the whole thing going, so she's. She's plate spinner. It's like it's like that thing. When everyone's having a good time, and someone says having a good time, it ruins the mood. Yeah, CHEER UP! That's the worst one, isn't it? Cheer up Richard. Didn't used to get. For building sought workers, instead of I have a face which naturally looks quite grim, if I'm a thinking mode I look quite serious. and. Genuine quite. Serious race and And so every time you know when everyone else who walked by building sites and Magoo we whistle whistle Sort of looks of Cheer Up. It might never happen. Think. Is there anything worse than someone saying that you know I had the same problem I? Have my reading face and I'll be reading the book cafe and someone will come up to me and go strangers strangers come up to you say. What's wrong. and. Do a little high and I'm not. There's nothing wrong unless there is. Something and I have to and then I. Sound like I'm into Nile. I'm reading. B that white fine, okay fine! I'm so glad sharing. Good now I'm not so glad now. Sorry I'm really really not bad. But you were sharing with door. That's an augmented unison. He was sharing. Described the first act you come up with the minimal sisters the. Sisters and I say time invented the menopause is we have no knowledge of menopause, really or even what it was I don't think we knew what the menopause meant disagreeable with thought it was another way of saying menstruation, but I'm not sure, but I thought the menopause sisters, it seems. I don't know it seems Sorta punk let no wife and the menopause sisters were we some? Sort of punk songs we had. Songs about hamsters being shot and under the floorboards, and that sort of thing, and we would dress up in in a punk Staley and sing at people's penalties. We've nibbles. No, that's the Meta. Passi Sisters York. The next. Phase. The Nipple Tassels. Phase. And the nipple tassels came when the menopause sisters transformed themselves miraculously into the patsy sisters. which is what you're thinking. Are, a mime Italian Circus Act and Replace the Nipple Tassels back on the back in the back of the later. People better. was that just enjoyed just for our movement? It made me laugh every time. I would look at all. Did you ever get to teach kids having come out of this Titian practice, yes? I practice teaching kids and the worst thing about being a teacher on teaching practice is get given the worse kids. You don't give them the best class because no one's going to trust you with the best class you get the rejects. Never. The teacher leave me and gay. Just keep them in the class. Just whatever you do, don't let them out of the classroom went. Oh, God, okay, keep them in the class and those one day when I thought I'm not going to manage this because they were really acting up and. I said okay. Okay, look all right. You don't want to do post office project. Okay? Fine what you want to do, and they said well. We've got swim warmly. Normally what we do miss is like we play records and we don't you go. Okay. Let's play records and tubs, and so they they put on the record unless chatting dogs. Miss Dodd Smith's on Smith's. I wish point though. GotTa do it otherwise. They're going to leave the classroom and so I started to dumpster to their records with them chanting at me I wish put dawn French walks in. School this is absolutely true, and she's never let me forget it because her school had like I. Don't know a whole holiday where they want strike or something, and so told French walks into person to see me, Sing Robert. We're very sadly because I can't go. Food. Like, but the kind of I can only downs if someone's dancing in front of me like a copy. Listening to conversations. With rich. A more conversations anytime on the ABC. All go to ABC dot net dot EU slash. Conversations. Attica legitimate for awhile and a house that sounds disgusting like the House and the young ones, actually which at the visit, just one episode I think there's a lot like you're actually literally burning things around the house. Yes, thatches Britain. That's just print. Except it was. It was said. House was owned by the Church and my friend's boyfriend had got the lease on it and. He'd gone away for bit and so me and job Oh and two other girls lived in this house, and it was completely covered in dry rot, so the walls will literally just falling apart and W- holes in the floor. was very dangerous. Probably and we had absolutely no money and you get into this House with A. White Coat Hanger Coat hanger through through the letterbox and then opened the door and we thought. Hey, that's great. No one's ever going to realize that. If anyone did come into Stephen nothing to steal. We just lived me. Burn told his law books. And we vet, she started just burning. The bits of would withdraw. We had no money, but friend and I were too lazy to sign on and get benefits. Too Lazy to get a doll. Yeah, you too lazy when? We have to walk half a mile. I don't think so. I'll tell you what we're gonNA eat today, pilchards. Looking through the stage and that's we saw the to audition for the. Comic Strip and you rang dawn and I love this because every comedian has this lovely moment allows with Ashley, had that chocking? That, I think I'm going to have a go at being a comedian. People off on stage, which is very very bright. Moment really did it struck you as such at the time. was cheered. Snow I think we were very nervous of that because when we done the act, we don't enact college just in front of actors who were trying to impress your friends friends. and. I think we really enjoyed it. We knew we could do it but dawn going off to do teaching. which luckily I saved it from. Luckily she had comedy fall back on and. And, so I thought well. We might as well try this because nothing else had come up in a my friend and I were looking. For Jobs on cruises. Because we've figured that we could probably get a job cruise doing some kind of entertaining waitressing and we actually recruit, so we're looking basically for holiday. What would it be a cruise? On the Cruise Gone throw you off the crease. Crews and But Man I thought when I saw the ad I thought they were looking specifically for female acts, and we will. Probably the first people with bosoms walked in and because of the comic strip. There was this was part of a new group of people that included. And your husband maybe not quite so soon to be husband. Six six years later Adrian Edmonson Rick Mile, and did you have to send to your invading something new? I don't think the beginning. We really knew what we were doing. I think. The boys had a better idea because they'd already done. The comedy store and an petered selected a group of acts who would play in the comedy store to start this new club. He was the big push behind the whole thing. He realized that there was that something could be done with this group of people, so he took what he thought was the most talented. People, and but the mom then realized they haven't gotten any women and to be politically correct at the time. You need to have some female acts. and. With us, he found them. You say that the real radical. Before of of the comic strip at the time was what you weren't doing rather than what you were doing. The before back sexist racist jokes that just with todd and lime. TV. It's sort of crammed. Hope Comedy Wise. Was the same old stuff that. The sitcoms, a pretty traditional comedy was very very traditional. It was like northern club Huma it was. Fairly sexist and often racists. It was It didn't really appeal anyone young anymore and there wasn't a comedy for young people Unless you I mean there was the pythons I suppose you could say. That was SORTA comedy, but there wasn't anything. Go more, so let comedians you got to see like that. You and it's just powells for the longest time then. He wanted you to come with him to help him by cottage. Yes, that his wife floating well is a weirdest thing. We had decided that we would buy a house together. It a cottage in Dorset to go away two weekends. We hadn't occurred to us that it was odd that we were by together. Isn't that weird? It is it is. It, isn't it? We haven't considered that. This was a romance going on everyone else saw of new, and we were the last to kind of see it like that and was surprised and when you know. All surprised. You had three daughters together, and the comes did come to the shock to them as they grow a little bit older when they realized that appearance were very well known indeed and celebrated Comic Artists Yes. That must have come as a huge shock. It's just money into mommy. And Daddy and Monday middle came home, and she said she looks looking at me. Strangely it I thought yeah was was was smashed. Are, you Jennifer Saunders. Am I said. I said well. Yes, I am sometimes yeah, because someone at school said said that's who you were and I said No. You're just mummy. The BBC asked you to make a series dawn. And how much freedom do they give you? Total free total freedom. I have to say they gave us. The freedom to mess up, which is the the best freedom you can have them to file the freedom to fail and I think for a first series. I think we made our own mistakes. We made lots of mistakes and we realize what we needed to the control. You have to have to to get better. The things we need to change and appreciate, but in those days you were given either give them the freedom to fail new allowed a second series. We learned on the job in a way. Watching clips as I did over the Easter weekend. It was love you say you dawn. What are the things? I noticed I hadn't noticed. Before is the tension. That's they between you where you're clearly trying to make the laugh. And and you're just forcing it down. That's a lovely tension, isn't that? Lovely tension. I love that I love. Makes me laugh usually and very surprisingly sometimes very soon sometimes in humor, and always takes me by surprise. Even now. Sometimes she'll say something I. Think got damaged. I forgot. You're so funny. The writing process for comedy is often poorly understood because it doesn't look like making anything at the time. No and I love people to misunderstand writing comedy, and I have heard produces. Get frustrated and say look you. Just stop messing about and write something and I'm thinking you have to say this is writing. Messing is writing because comedy. Writing comedy is playing is like being a child. And? It's not sitting down and writing lime line line line. You have to mess about in order in order to get somewhere and also to eliminate stuff I. Think Lsu you mess about new. Throw lots and lots of stuff around. You don't eliminate stuff I. think There's something I've noticed threat all your writing. If you can call it, that is the line that comes complete. Well, it seems like something you put it out and it doesn't make a lot of sense, but it's very funny because it's. It's come from some strange part of the Jewish. I don't know if you should ever analyze such things but it. Seems like a lot of is reliant on you bleeding something out. Yeah, just something that you didn't even know, was there? Yes, I think so you. You have things in the back of your mind. You know that you could use, but o