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New York Giants beat Philadelphia Eagles 27-17
"Philadelphia eagles. Oh boy they lost to the new york giants twenty seven to seventeen. I do not. I do not want to obscure all of the giants accomplishments. They want us game. They looked impressive for for some stretches. So first of all the broadcast fox broadcasts as dave gettleman told broadcasters on friday that people keep telling him people of course if the giants are the best two and seventeen that they've ever seen
Breaking Down the New York Giants Initial Practice Squad
"Other thing going on with the giants roster is the shaping of their practice squad. We're not gonNA project who we think is going to be on the practice squad because as were recording it, we should receive some type of news by the end of the day Sunday, who is on the practice squad for some reason? You probably noticing this to the giants have been taking their time. To the fullest extreme to put in all this information, their fifty three man roster I think was announced. Ten or fifteen minutes after the required four o'clock deadline. Meanwhile, every other team had already gotten their stuff in before that chalk that up to Dave gettleman and Joe Judge trying to take their time in re be very detailed with it. They also this is official that we already talked about some of the claims but they have claimed offense tackle Jackson, Barton, wide receiver, Damian Rally, and then also safety Adrian Colbert they could either end up on the roster or be pushed to the practice squad. But the one thing that's worth noting and we're GONNA talk about the practice once official on another episode but it's worth noting that this season the practice squad is very. Very unique. It's bigger than it typically is and teams are going to be using it as a shuffling group that if someone gets sick, they can send them home quickly, sign them to come play right away they're gonNA travel. I would bet with most of if not all of these guys and have the bill availability to sign them immediately in the case of an emergency yet honestly to for me, that's kind of a step closer to what the practice squad should be anyway I I've never really liked the practice squad the way it has been where it's limited the guys who can be on it are very limited in the amount experience they can have and. They're really not protected at all. So any team can basically swipe a player off any other teams practice squad on very little notice. and. To me I I really do like these changes to the practice squad rules. The fact that it's bigger that the teams can keep more players around they don't have quite the same constraints on. Experience that we've seen in years past and the fact that they can promote guys from the practice squad to the active roster on basically ninety minutes notice. So I really like the flexibility that that gives teams and I'm sure we're going to be seeing teams take advantage of that this year probably in ways that the NFL isn't exactly planning on. And I wouldn't be surprised if there are certain aspects of this short-term practice squad for this season that are maybe tried to be translated into next year or come next CBS negotiation asked for by the players. So more players can stick around and be retained by their various teams it. It is a lot better like you said, Chris compared to way the way. That they've done it previously, it's better to have more guys if you can carry as many guys as they are allowed to this
Roger Goodell pleased with virtual NFL Draft
"Roger Goodell the first ever NFL virtual draft how did it work hi Taylor and we were very very happy at the number one thing is to make sure it works well operationally for clubs that worked very well the club's technology were able to conduct the trades and conduct their business in the way they wanted I think the big upset for the draft was there weren't a lot of technical difficulties from teams that all these GM's and scouts and executives that belly aches about wifi and set up that hacking all this nonsense Much Ado About Nothing shocking much ado about nothing they were able to pull it off and I think the NFL benefited hugely from this night number one do I think sixteen million viewers sixteen million viewers which is a huge number and of course it is because we were all dying for some relevant sports content and we got it so to me it was so ridiculous to hear people complain within the NFL circles about how we couldn't get it done we don't have enough in the home visits we don't have enough interface propositions we can't meet these guys Dave Gettleman GM giants we need to smell and touch our players give me a break no you didn't you need to just do your research you did it you've got the pics in so be it so I think the Goodell is right that it ultimately did
"gettleman" Discussed on Big Blue View
"It's a weekend edition prior to the draft couple of things for you today. I we're going to play for you some clips from Dave cattlemen's Friday conference call his pre-draft conference call. We played for you some clips earlier in the week of a conference call in which John Dave Gentleman spoke about free agency and about some of the organizational changes about the structural changes the way the giants have had to do business because of the covert nineteen shutdown of all of the NFL offices So this was gettleman. Second availability of the week is second conference called this one specifically related to the giants in the NFL draft which is as we said which is coming up in a few days a few takeaways that I wanted to mention before we play those clips. First and foremost gettleman said that he would very seriously entertain the idea of trading down from number four. We know that something. That Dave gettleman in seven drafts has never done. This is a really good situation for the giants a good spot for the giants if someone wants to come up and get that number four pick. Obviously with four offensive tackles who are pretty equally graded on a wide variety of opinion as to. Who's number one and who's number four so you any pretty much? Any of those offensive tackles would be an upgrade for the giants over what they currently have on their offensive line so the giants are in a good spot there if someone does want to move up in Miami or the. La chargers possibly the Carolina Panthers personally. That's about as far as I see the giants moving down. Miami has the fifth pick chargers. Have the panthers have the seventh thick? I doubt that Dave gettleman who has said before that he really doesn't like to trade too far for the simple reason that that you you take yourself out of the mix for players that you might want so number seven Carolina's probably about as far as I think that the giants would go but I do believe that gettleman east serious about possibly moving that pick in picking up a An additional day to draft. Pick something that he can use to to continue to build out the A- the roster as the giants try to try to improve after winning just nine games the past two seasons. `nother thing that that I have been saying consistently and I said earlier in the week after after his Monday conference call. I'm more and more convinced all the time that the giants are going to go often to tackle with their first. Pick whether that's at number four whether it's a little bit lower down as long as one of those four guys is available. I think the giants are going to do that. Rather than take Clemson linebacker. Isiah Simmons Gettleman talked on Friday about the necessity of opening holes for saquon Barkley About Keeping Daniel Jones upright about the idea that he hasn't yet been able to To completely finish rebuilding this offensive. Line something. They walked in the door at the end of the two thousand seventeen season saying that he absolutely needed to do and He said he would just keep building it that they would keep throwing assets at in. He was asked if there was pressure and he said maybe it is a little bit of a pressure point to to fix this offensive line so I fully expect that the giants will go offensive tackle with their first overall. Pick whether that's going to be Tristan wharfs of Iowa generic wills of Alabama MCI Becton of Louisville. I couldn't really tell you at this point Daniel Jeremiah of NFL NETWORK. Highly respected draft analyst. Well-connected was said the other day during conference call that he is becoming more and more convinced that the pick will be jed rick wills of Alabama which makes a lot of sense when you think about the The giants connections to Alabama Joe Judge worked for Nick Sabin for several years Burton Burns. Who is now? The giants running running backs coach was that Alabama for several years was even. Was there even. The last couple of years was hired away from Alabama. Several giants coaches have connections to nick. Sabin so you you would expect that. The judge said the other day that he'll be relying on those college connections or has been for information on players on guys that he trusts so in gettleman talked about that on Friday about how helpful that's been. He talked about Burns. So you would have to think that if the giants are in a coin flip you know between two of the the offensive tackles. Let's say tristen worth sent. And Jed Rick. Wills if they're in a coin flip perhaps the the information the insight their trust in whatever information they're getting from Nick Sabin in the staff at Alabama about Jed Rick Wills in a positive or a negative manner might be the determining factor as to. What the giants do there? That would not Not Be surprised at all in the in the current environment where the giants can't hold pro day or can't go to pro days where the can't hold visits at the facility where they can't meet these players face to face so We'll see how that turns out but as I said I remain pretty much convinced that the giants will go offensive tackle with their first overall. Pick on just a couple of other things that I wanted to talk about. I did ask Dave on Friday about the fact that this draft is so much different. There's so much less contact with players in although the giants are able to face time they're able to to do some of those things remotely but they can't work these guys out. They can't look them in the eye. They can't bring them into the facility. That can't go to pro days in. See them move around on the field so it's a little bit different. I asked Dave. This draft had kind of an old school feel to it because of that and he agreed that it did he he basically said it feels a little bit like the Nineteen Seventies. You know which is back. Maybe when he first started out in the business when when. Nfl teams drafted players without any real contact with them perhaps only with the scouting report. Maybe with some information you know from the from the college coaches. I'm not sure how much film was available for them to watch back at that time in. Probably some from the Colleges. Maybe whatever they saw on television but they were drafting with a lot less information. So we'll see if that plays into the Plays into the giants hands here. We'll see if there if that helps them. You know with the veteran guy like gentleman who's who cut his teeth in the scouting world still considers himself a scout lot of veteran scouts on the giants staff. So we'll see if if the old school nature of this draft actually turns out to benefit the New York giants you know when they have to select on Thursday Friday and Saturday anyway giants fans. Let's do this. I have two things for you today. I have the some audio clips from gentleman's press conference for you those will be Those were cut up by Joe. Daley owner of the Chris and Joe. Show what you'll hear are the clips from Dave with transitions provided by Joe. We thank him for that. After the after the interview with Gettleman. You'll hear an interview that I did with Scott. Right of draft countdown. As we preview. A lot of of what may or may not happen next week in the draft the NFL draft is now less than a week away. In general manager. Dave gettleman spoke to the media yet again twice in one week as you had assume a major storyline for the giants is the possibility of them. Trading back with quarterback needy teams wanting to hop up to take to a low of Alabama or Justin. Herbert of Oregon puts the giants in a really good opportunity at four. Four one of those teams to trade up into that spot. The media of course ask questions about the giants possibility of trading and also how they might approach it. It's GonNa happen very soon. You know I'm GonNa make call and You know anybody that wants to say listening when we don't have much time can't hold around and I'd like to get the brims of fields in Clayton place before you get on the clock. That would be the best thing. We're GONNA have a mock draft on on Monday. I'm sure you were on that and Belene interesting to see how it works and again it's a matter of it's really the big pieces the giants of coordinated with a approach the draft. I'm sorry trade cross. You know have to veteran guys on so I think you'll be fine Obviously as you get a third round you'll have five minutes it's GonNa be tight To try to do that. So you know to try to trace back our trade up. So we're GonNa what's going to happen is GONNA force everybody to do is is through deals before they picked up. So let's say this thing and discussion. Someone calls one gene girls. Don't WANNA TRADE UP. They go make a deal off the clock. And then if the guy is they're teaming up then go to concentrate the straight but go. I think a lot of time in war rooms. There's always a possibility for a power struggle between coaches and the general manager as well as the scouting department. Dave gettleman was asked about who the final decision would come down to. If there wasn't an agreement on who to take at various pick cattleman squashed that possibility of him having the final decision but rather it being a New York giants decision collaborative collaborative. We're not you know. Have you know we talk it through? Just talk it through. You know this is my craft drafted. I had a problem. We don't big difference of opinion with a coach. We GOT DETROIT. We discussed about coming to a consensus. It's coming to a contest in just you know when I you know wrestling society to who gets the away. No that's it's a consensus collaboration. And that's that's what the situation can addressing. The offensive line is yet again a pressing issue for this giants roster and Dave gettleman spoke a ton about the tackle class also seeking versatility. Not Being a major concern. When drafting tackles certainly doesn't hurt it's I think I mentioned it on Monday. This tackles throughout the draft. Who I'll be lot of we call it. There is a lot of talent. There isn't a doubtful guys. Played both absolute free zone quite once. Certainly not all Aba Japanese it and then you know you you know you work through a look at yourself whether it's just is no different.
"gettleman" Discussed on Big Blue View
"I think for the human beings and It was one that the giants. I don't think ever really recover from in terms of you know the big picture now. From football perspective boroughs was a huge part of that offense we we we saw the year before we saw it in the first ten games or so the season You take him out of the lineup and you know down now that changes everything that changes everything and you know. Obviously you could sit here and say well to coach should should prepare for such like that because what if burs had sprained a knee or torn knee ligament or something like that they would. It would be next man up you know after seeing burruss. I think play through the injuries that he had in the Super Bowl. He had an ankle an injury that made him a Game Day. Decision in two thousand seven. They probably figure look. The Sky can overcome anything. He's a tough hombre. He can overcome anything and this was just one thing that obviously he couldn't overcome all right. Patty last thing on this topic you and I have talked over the years. A lot about the Coughlin Manning era and missed opportunities and looking back on it thinking that that there probably should have been more winning done whether whether we're talking about Super Bowl titles or or just playoff appearances and I just look back at this. As the biggest missed opportunity of the entire era I guessing you would agree with me on that. Oh absolutely absolutely this. That team that two thousand eighteen was probably the best team in that era. Hands Down no question. I'm not just talking about the record. I'm just talking about everything. The way everything fell into place the teeth and sit astride and continued the two thousand yard rushers Brandon Jacobs and Derrick Ward You know you just look at everything up until that point and you say this team. There's no way this team could have been stopped and unfortunately it took one you know poor decision to bring everything to a screeching halt and that team never recovered from it. And it's a damn shame because it really was in my opinion. The best team up the coughing manny era. All right. Hey Patty why don't you Why don't you tell folks a little bit about what you've got coming up at at locked on giants and over at the giants country Before I let you go sure. Over on lockdown giants we're GONNA continue to preview The different draft teams were. I'm trying to get different. Guests covered college programs to come on. Give us a little bit more information and background about some of these prospects and we're also going to have some clips sweet because the giants are making available Dave gettleman and Joe Judge and a few other people to speak so we'll have some thoughts and reactions on that and then on giants country dot Com. We've got some really dynamite stuff. We are doing the final edition of what we call. Mock draft mania. Were each one of our writers puts up their version of the giants of the ideal giant. Sef around mock draft We have some features coming up. That are really cool Some exclusive interviews. We were able to get A mailbag so all kinds of stop playing for the week and we hope you'll check us out at giants country. Dot Com R. A. Patty thank you very much and we will be talking to you again soon. Thank said all right giants fans. That's our show for today. Thank you very much for listening. Please make sure that you give the Chris. Joe Show listen. There next. Episode comes up on Wednesday the next episode of the Valentine's views podcast is scheduled for Thursday. Our special guest on Thursday which will be a week before the two thousand twenty. Nfl draft begins will be Dane burglar the draft analyst for the athletic we'll talk. We'll talk to Dan about all things relating to the New York giants draft all right giants fans. Thank you very much for listening and we'll talk to you soon. Bye Bye hi. I'm Brian and I'm one of the hosts of the Amazing Avenue Network podcasts. Each week day we bring you a different podcast. That covers the New York mets from a different perspective. Every Monday. You could hear me. Steve along with cannon locus on from complex SOCLEAN'S. Will we discuss the mets minor league system? Every Tuesday an unforgettable. Join me rebel. They look back on the career of a less heralded myth. I'm Alison and along with Maggie and Linda. I host a part of their own each week. We look at things nets and social justice issues in baseball. I'm Chris and you can catch Brian and meet chatting about the current state of the mets on Amazing Avenue Audio show every Thursday and on Fridays. We Have Amazing Avenue in conversation where I top with interesting people about the New York mets. So check out the Amazing Avenue family of PODCASTS. You can get us on apple podcasts. Spotify stitcher or your culture of choice and as always. Let's go mets..
Giants reportedly sign Blake Martinez and James Bradberry
"News the giants have added two players both on defense linebacker Blake Martinez in corners James Bradberry they both get three year deals Martinez was a Green Bay Packer Bradbury come for the Panthers we was actually drafted by giants GM Dave Gettleman in twenty
Report: New York Jets Sign Tackle George Fant To Three-Year $30 Million Deal
"Now and I fell players had more tackles of the last three seasons the linebacker Blake Martinez and now Martinez is in New York giant the former Packer getting a three year deal worth a reported thirty million dollars the giants are also waiting cornerback James Bradberry a three year deal worth forty five million that includes thirty two million in guaranteed money Bradbury was drafted by GM Dave Gettleman in Carolina in two thousand sixteen now ESPN is reporting the tight end Levine Toilolo was next for big blue you only had two catches in thirteen games last season for the forty Niners the jets need some help on the offensive line they get it in the name of George fans reported three year deal worth thirty million fans coming over from the C. hawks he only started though twenty four games in four seasons in
Dave Gettleman says Giants “open for business” regarding trading back in draft
"Nancy the NFL has descended on Indianapolis for the scouting combine the giants have the fourth pick in the draft and could get some value Ford dealer trade GM Dave Gettleman said they are quote open for business the jets GM Joe Douglas also met the median said he hopes Jamal Adams will be in a jets uniform for a long time in fact he said he hopes to make the Pro Bowl safety a jet for life after all the dealing by the local teams yesterday all three local hockey teams are in action tonight the outers host the Rangers at the Coliseum in the Rangers were both Alexander Georgi Evan goal after Igor sure stark ins auto accident will keep about a few weeks JG Pageau arrive from Ottawa yesterday is expected to be in the lineup tonight after signing a six year extension the devils are in Detroit to open up a five game road trip New Jersey is a stripped down team dealing many veterans over the last
Giants go all-in with GM Dave Gettleman, who 'won't be an issue'
"The giants opted to part ways yesterday with head coach Pat Shurmur after two seasons and a nine twenty three record team though announced the GM Dave Gettleman will return for twenty twenty and also spearhead the search for new head coach here as gettleman earlier New York today before we go any further. I just wanted to be clear. Pat Shurmur as fine. A man as I've ever worked with there are many reasons whether New York football giants who've been the current state and I take my share of cup building. John said yesterday I have had Mrs however given where we started in December seventeen. We've made progress in many areas on an off the field. We're encouraged by and see as a sound foundation for the team to come. Look there have been Mrs. There've been some some hits. There would be those that argue. They have quarterback running the pieces in place rob making it. I would think desirable situation for a lot of head coaching candidates. Yeah I mean if you look at what they have there. You have a franchise quarterback who's very young so if you're offensive minded coach maybe you you'd take that as a positive. Look I have a very one of the top running running backs in the NFL right now. Very Explosive Young Guy. That's going to be on the team for a while. And you look at your quarterback I think the the hard part would be the GM staying so maybe he would have more influence on personnel decisions so that could be an issue but as far as just players their offense they have the keys. That are there for winning. But defensively they're going to have to rebuild on defense. I'm sorry Dan. The point was made yesterday that while they announce it ghetto ones returning and could be in a tough spot if there are potential candidates out there and talked about this that want more of a say you know. There's a new age here. Where head coaches make a lot of the decisions and now they're kind of backed into a corner feel like that's the case around the League Eh? You know whenever you're talking about the coaching hiring process. And you know let's say we're discussing the giants situation in your talking with other perhaps candidates or other head coaches from other teams teams about what's going on. They'll always say did he get hope. Is he getting full. Control getting power. It's always the first question people ask. Because that's what they want because we've seen what happens when a head coach. She doesn't feel like he's the one that can make the decisions and it becomes frustrating and it usually doesn't work out. I feel like the team that allow their coach to say and work in tandem with the GM GM those are the ones that usually are successful or the giants head. Coaching search has begun. They've made inquiries around the league will continue to watch
New York Giants fire coach Pat Shurmur but reinstall GM Dave Gettleman
"Son John giants GM Dave gentleman met with the media today and spoke among other things about what he and the giants brass are looking for is they conduct a search for a new coach head coach was they can bring together staff is through the aspic we need a head coach with leadership when the head coach with a great and you know within with intelligence and we you know one I can connect with these players as far as the list of names to replace Pat Shurmur the team will reportedly meet with former Packers coach Mike McCarthy this weekend they've also reportedly asked the ravens for permission to interview their defensive coordinator wink
Giants Fire Head Coach Shurmur, GM Gettleman To Stay On
"The giants fired Pat Shurmur in two years sure with a record of nine in twenty three giants are bringing back general manager
Report: Browns Request Permission To Interview Josh McDaniels About Head Coaching Vacancy
"Coaching news out there. If you haven't seen it this morning Pat Shurmur it has been let go from the New York giants but the giants have also let us know that Dave gettleman will remain as the GM so we know that that's happening. We're also starting starting to hear some of the names names of people that are being requested for interviews. Adam schefter pointed out the Cleveland. Browns have requested permission to interview a Josh mcdaniels. We knew that they've also requested permission to interview Ravens. Offensive Coordinator Greg Roman for their head coaching vacancy. So that's one there. They can take care of that interview now in fact because the ravens have a bye week it gets a little. It'll trickier with Josh mcdaniels. Who appears to be a hot candidate for several different teams? He is on the list of candidates for the giants. He's on the list of the the candidates for the the Browns as well as you and for the
Giants Name Daniel Jones the Starter, Sending Eli Manning to the Bench
"Re hitting the top story of the day Daniel Jones going to start this week for the New York giants against the Tampa Bay buccaneers Eli Manning officially benched looks like his career with China's over as the starting quarterback well again and we'll see what Daniel Jones happened. I mean he could get blown up and then he lies back in there. Yes that's true I I mean but we haven't heard from Pat Shurmur and we will tomorrow and and what we will hear as I'm sure he's the quarterback and we're moving forward with him and Eli will do his best to mentor him in any. I don't think Eli wants to be traded on like he wants to go anywhere. People are wondering if he is traded spot track tweeted out while unlikely if the giants do trade Eli Manning. He'll cost his new team six hundred seventy six thousand dollars as per week ten point one million dollars to the rest of the season. The giants have already paid him six point eight million the jets are going to get Sam darnold back before or the midseason point okay. The Jaguars are going to get nick foles back around the midseason point. Drew brees is coming back around the midseason point. The steelers are not getting big ben back but it makes sense for them to see who they have in Wehr young guy a guy that Ben didn't want to mentor cantor when he was drafted last year he was definitely rankled by the drafting of Mason Rudolph the of that. I don't believe there's any doubt and he didn't say a mentor him like Rudolph said it's not Ben's Job to mentor me and he used that on his radio show which has since since been shuttered that just to put it all out there that I'll just point to the book and just say you know that's yours since he doesn't want me to mentor him even thought it was funny and and it landed with a thud but they have to see what they have in Mason Rudolph and at Mason Rudolph. Let's say performs like Dak where it's amazing and he's terrific traffic and the team makes the playoffs and gets a playoff start then. We're going to have an interesting thing on her hands right here. Ben will come back and come back saying I am ready to show up and it'll be like far like when Aaron Rodgers got there like oh I don't plan will be ready to garage. Come back in shape. He'll probably say ten fifteen rounds and it'll be ready to go and put the steelers and a tough bind but that is a high class problem and the steelers are going to find out if that's a high class problem that they can have because at some point Ben will be done and Mason Rudolph. We'll be sitting there and for Mason Rudolph he'll be able to just basically say to them because they don't have a fifth year option on him because he wasn't a first round draft pick nick franchise tag me Pittsburgh or trade me and someone also pay me like Jimmy Garoppolo. This is a big opportunity for him and whose his first quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo so we lies not going anywhere no one's going to be wanting to hire Eli manning and the giants the best backup quarterback and perfect mentor for for Daniel Jones perfect. Why would they trade him? who had taken are just told every? I just gave you the possibilities. Nobody needs him but you're you're. You're not like it's not like there's a Minnesota Vikings situation where they had to pull the trigger for Sam Bradford because they had a super bowl ready team that went poof because teddy bridgewater blew his knee up but if you take away his name. Ui Manning and you look on paper you're trying to acquire a guy is three and nineteen eighteen again his last starts and seven years old and I'll say this again do we have shown O'Hara's tweet and obviously he's biased. He won a super bowl with Eli. Put it up Shara so incredibly disappointed and frustrated with the giants right now. Defense gives up sixty three points in two games wide receiver group is depleted but let's change your. QB question marks Kurt said the same thing he sees the film you lie is not making poor decisions. He's making the right decisions. The only decisions decisions he has in front of him and he's being held to account now you can say that it's been a long time coming but it's not the only answer and Daniel Daniel Jones and again credit gettleman. He's putting it out there right now he could have sat there and say I take the rest of the year because the ownership is ready for you. Take the rest of the year and then I'll get more. I'll get more top five picks for Daniel Jones but he didn't do it. What if Daniel Jones comes out as three hundred yards and beats the bucks this week while then we're we're not talking about any more we
"gettleman" Discussed on Big Blue View
"Off season the decisions made by Dave gettleman all of that controversial the decisions unpopular ones in in many ways what a lot of people saw as head scratchers all of that to be honest over the course of the off season has been kind of tiresome to talk about and and that's not really where I wanna go at this point but as we enter training camp I look at it and m I the only one who I don't think this giants team is is a championship contending team. I don't think they're gonNA make take a deep playoff run but am I the only one who is a little bit more optimistic than than many of the of the the naysayers about this team about the direction of this team at least as as we begin a new season. I don't think so ed I mean you gotTa look at baby steps for this team. You know look it took years for the team to fall into the into the sewer. It's GONNA take years for to come back. I mean very rarely does a team. Go from from worse too. I I mean I it's such a challenge but you know look you can look at last year and you could say that they came close and if it weren't for call here this and that they're they might have had a better record than what they had. They might have gone eight nate instead of five and eleven but I think you know the giants Dave Gettleman Pat Shurmur they had built a locker locker room that they feel is conducive to winning and they are optimistic about it and now you know it is up to the coaching staff to you know design schemes and plays and whatnot and put these players in a position to to capitalize on their talent so I am with you. I think there is reasonably optimistic. In terms of making baby steps forward. I don't see this team necessary sliding back unless they get ransacked by injuries injuries but I'm with you. I don't think this is a team that you know is going to go deep in the playoffs if it should qualify and I think I think they have an outside chance of being a wildcard but you know. I just don't think they're ready to make a run. Patty I was thinking and I did a post for big blue view that will actually hit a little bit <unk> a little bit later today as we record this <hes> on Tuesday morning and the the focus of of that piece is basically on progress for the two thousand nineteen giants Gettleman Pat Shurmur talked about the talked about building. They talked about going from three winds to five wins in all of the close losses forces and for me. I have a hard time saying okay. The giants have to hit X. number of victories to make progress and and that's for a couple of reasons that's because of the potential for an Eli Manning Daniel Jones transition transition and that's also because there's so much youth in so many new players on defense is there I mean how would you define what progress for this team. What might progress look like? Is it a number of wins or is it something other than that that you might look for. There's a couple of things I mean. Ultimately right. Wins are going to be the definitive measuring stick but I think the other thing you have to look at is. How many plays did they not make last year that they're now making this year? Are they better against the run. Are they able to get more pressure on the quarterback. Are they able to connect them. Were you know I don't know deep passes. <hes> are they able to to get more yards after contact. You know their little statistical things that you can say okay you know what the offense align was indeed better because you know they allowed X.. Number of pressures this year versus last year so there are a little tiny things you can look at those things will start to add up <hes> but ultimately you're right again. Wins and losses is is the bay measuring stick. The people going to look at and say you know. This team has progressed store. This team has regressed and I think we have probably talked about this before but entering training camp I think the defense to me is actually a bigger question than the offense simply because there's so many moving parts..
Scott Boras, Baseball And Murray discussed on CBS Sports Radio
"We were told here's quarterback class. Not that great. Because of the quarterbacks that we saw last year Mayfield. Darnold, Allen rose in Jackson. There was a lot more excitement last year with the quarterbacks this year, though for all this talk of the quarterbacks aren't that great? The quarterbacks always dominate the conversation that draft they do Murray goes one who could have predicted that five months ago. And Scott Boras told y'all all he's always going to play baseball baseball baseball. And the next thing, you know, Murray who got picked in the top ten of the baseball draft ends up going number one in the football draft. Then you have the giant surprising everyone taking January Jones at number six and a giant Vince every yesterday because I've been critical of the organization and been critical. Dave, Gettleman even. Before the draft. And they said well the rest of the draft wasn't terrible. And I explained it to them. That's nice player. Not a pass rusher though. The Andre Baker nice player cornerback out of Georgia. They got the edge rusher from Old Dominion. We'll see what he will do Julian love from Notre Dame. Okay. You could tell me they had a a nice draft.
Giants GM: 'I Know for a Fact' 2 Teams Would've Taken Daniel Jones Before No. 17
"A lot of talk about the giants Vic who better to talk about it. Then folded Tino covers the Josh Ross at the fan, Paul. How are you? And it's not really football season yet. Oh, it's always football season. Tony come on now. Great to talk to you. I'm doing well, and certainly missi conversations. Yes. Let me talk about about Daniel Jones because I was wondering the other teams looking at him. That's why the giants didn't wait till take them into later in the first round. Well, let's put it this way. GM Dave Gettleman asserted today. He said guys, I'm not gonna pulling any punches. I couldn't necessarily talk as much about it the other day, but I'm telling you now, we knew for a fact a fact that to other teams were absolutely positively going to take Jones before seventeen. So there was no way that the giants could wait the seventeen if they really wanted the player. He also said that he was going to stay at six and he was going to make that pick. He had absolutely no intentions of moving down from six or from moving up from seventeen when the player fell to sex that was it. He was taking the guy. This is the guy who he really believes in and the only thing I can say Tony. And I look I graded Jones myself as late second round pick. I was flabbergasted and shocked not that they picked him because I knew he was on their radar, but that he wound up being in the six slot. But he was what I'll tell you any of us if we have conviction in particular belief in doing our jobs, and then we don't pull the trigger on it. Then we haven't done our job
"gettleman" Discussed on Bleeding Green Nation
"We try to bring calm rational analysis here on this show. But this may be the biggest manmade disaster since the Deepwater Horizon oil spill or Exxon Valdez. These were talking the north Pacific garbage patch mixed with the noble disaster colliding together in one brilliant display of fireworks on the first night of the draft the reactions just from from giants fans from guys like, Mike Francesca. Who's like there's no way that. Oh my God. They took a quarterback like just all of it was just completely brilliant. It was everything I could ever asked for on ever ask for anything. Again. Let's let's talk about how Daniel Jones fits because. I mean, there's word out there. I saw Pat Leonard talking about this. But Dave Gettleman is saying few things he saying that they might follow. Sorry, guys. Sorry. Sorry to love it. Dave Gettleman is saying that he saw three drives believe it was from Daniel Jones at the senior bowl. And that's what made him fall in love. And there's some context there as far as house practices when they talk about three drives as well. Kid when I. Tweet. I don't go too much into my morning routine. Okay. But I needed to get back into the shower after vomited alone for myself when I saw that because let's talk also about three drives. Now, these are more stimulated dries, but to refresh everybody's recollection of the Siebel and some of us might need some more refreshing than others the Wednesday practices were rained out. And so we were not allowed access to those except on film will late at night. So what to very nice dinner with great friends? Joe Farrell on race in the one and only Mattie Brown Bryce Ross very nice dinner at a wonderful restaurant. Top of an office building down a mobile, but then after having a MARTINI, and I guess I had a MARTINI. But it did not dull my thinking when I went to the hotel and watched toonces Wednesday practice in here is how his seven on seven started again for context he was blood in John gruden's offense a game offense, which you would think would be the ideal set in for this kid. It's like. Point Madden on rookie mode form, right? His first throw a quick speed out route to the left any airmails, it just airmails it his second pro he locks onto a comeback road. And the senior Adderley who's a safety now playing corner to get some reps. There reaches is perfectly jumps the route in picks it for six go in the other direction. Eric throw, sir. Ince airy drive through now in my thinking is another route to the boundary through the left side, his receiver falls down in Daniel Jones in his infinite wisdom of the moment decides I'm gonna wait for him to get up and throw the ball to him in seemed other pick sakes go in the direction, so either Daniel Jones has problem on Wednesdays either. Daniel Jones has a problem. Played impact bubbles either. Daniel Jones has a problem throw into his left or dangers perhaps might not be a good quarterback. I don't know which of those is the most likely scenario when you factor in the aspect that seventy two point six percent of his critical drop racks were 1-0 steps. Good luck with run out of the National Football League. Now, I had to sit down for big view. And right best worst case scenario for this pick one it went down. I had to do that Michael at nine forty four on Thursday. Night. Now, how did I begin that? I began. With course, the food that dominates. Everybody's minds right now game thrones writing, and I talk about that court about the target rich. Right. There's that true sides of the coin greatness of madness, right it everytime. Garin is born the gods for coin and everyone holds their breath while all of jives nation right now is holding their breath..
1st round of the 2019 NFL draft is complete
"Us to the first round is in the books could show for the NFL last night. Just goes to show you the popularity of this league. And I I know I keep harping on this. But it's bears repeating there were a lot of people who made a lot of bones for themselves by predicting the death of this league, eventually real demise of this leak, but there were over one hundred thousand people if not close to two hundred thousand people that descended on natural last night that that went very very deep down Broadway. They were everywhere rooftop bars. They were coming out of windows. They were pouring off of bridges just to see this. It was let me make this clear. This was big. Business by the league. This could have been done behind closed doors. No one needs to watch the draft. No one needs to make it. You don't have. They don't even have to make a television show the sporting event that they do that has to be a television show that has to be for the public. That's how you make your money. The business side of this picking players that doesn't have to be a show that doesn't have to be on stage. That doesn't have to be a festival that could have been done in a in a bar in a ballroom in New York City like it used to years past, but because people want this product because the league wants so wants to connect with its fans make the fans this is why the big celebrations over the last couple of years they've taken this thing on the road. In essence, this is this is become the NFL's big party for the public a Super Bowl not so much because you're bringing in fan bases of two teams. Right. If you're a dolphins fan, you just don't go to the Super Bowl to hang out. But you can go to the drafting you can go to wherever city that the draft is having and you could hang out, and I saw jerseys from every team last night everywhere. It was awesome. It was my first draft was I loved it. But but the picks over the money is made for this the picks, or what is the talking point not the rain, not the band, not the Goodell booing, not the, you know, the colorful fans that came out in their costumes. What mattered was the picks and Kyla Murray going number one set this draft up to be normal. But then the raiders kind of made made a big move with the fourth pick. They took us lean Farrell at Clemson the edge rusher. Now, this was the surprise pick that John. Talked about now. Listen for Rosie good play. A really good players. A first team all American. You won the Ted Hendricks award for the best defensive end in college football. He played for a defense. That was one of the top defenses in college football for the top team in college football. Okay. But he could have been had in the twenties. They really liked him. Or at least wanted to make a statement that they were going to get him. But he wasn't projected to be a top five pick. Now, why the raiders made him a top five pick? When he wasn't projected. Who knows maybe the don't listen to mock draft guys all the time. Maybe it's because they don't listen the pundits. They are really they day. See something that they think other teams are going to see like they are. So they do their draft board. They watch him. They watch it. He's a beast. They watch him play. He's great. They want him at four. But they think other teams want him at six or seven or five or whatever. So they have to feel like they make the move. If this is the guy they really want. They get them. Now. Here's the thing. I can criticize the raiders you can criticize the raiders for making that pick early because they had two picks later on. But maybe the reality is that the two guys in the twenties, which we'll talk about later that they knew that they could get there. And those guys they really wanted to. So in essence, I can't fall to team forgetting who they want, but I can criticize where you get that player. And none bigger than what the giants. Did it six? This to me was the shocking move of the draft. This had everybody in the media Senegal. Daniel Jones of Duke getting picked in the six spot from the New York Giants who had the seventeenth pick in the draft and could have gotten them there. I thought need a huge mistake here. Jones. Is a David cut cliff product. He is a manning passing academy product the giants like the way he threw it pro day, but you don't make this move at six. There is defense of galore on the board. And you've got to go get Josh Allen is on the table. And you let him go you see how fast Jacksonville made their pick. When they took Daniel Jones. Josh Allen Kentucky was on the board for the giants. They could have gotten one of the best edge rusher in the draft. And they went quarterback a position right now. This very second. They don't need. They would probably have liked but don't need because the move you made. Here wasn't just getting a good old quarterback tobacco ally. Manning for couple years. This is going to be your franchise guy. Are you that Schorr Daniel Jones at Duke is your franchise guy? If you have manning plate next year, you could have set yourself up for getting Jalen hurts Jake from two tons of Loa any other quarterbacks. They you still can don't get me wrong. You could pull one Arezzo pulled and get your second quarterback. But normally that's not how it's done. I can see the New York media, and they're already started. Daniel Jones is the least popular draft pick. The giants have had in a long time. Hey, must've really fell in love with because I don't get this one at all. And I know I could be nice. Oh, he did really good at two key. He throws a good ball. He was accurate up above you. Just still don't make the play here. Dave Gettleman smarter than this. I praised the Gettleman higher coming from the Carolina Panthers to New York, but but can eat does. He know what he's doing with. Does. He have a plan for the for the New York Giants for this football team. Because I don't see it. And the other thing about about where the giants are going here. Is again, you just put ally manning on the clock. Now, I've been telling you, this is this is why I wouldn't have done this. If I was to get my my franchise quarterback with the sixth pick. If you wanna get a quarterback just to get a quarterback get him at seventeen or in around two or three. Now, drew lock is available for crying out loud. But by making the statement, you've put ally manning on the clock. Luckily for manning, this isn't a popular pick with giants fans. Because if it was a popular pick with giants fans, then Eli is gonna feel the pressure next season. And he's going to feel his career and his light on his career diminish after everything he's done for New York ending by being benched for this kid and never getting his job back. Luckily, this is not a popular pick. And maybe get him into saying this is the guy that has to learn and grow, but we like his long-term
NFL Draft Rumors: Picks for the Raiders, Jets, and Giants
"Now. Let's get into the raiders because they are very very interesting. They've sent everybody away. It's like, it's like survivor. There's two guys on an island. You got Mayock. You got Gruden no one else is around anywhere near the organization right now. And I read something that they said for fear that you know, they're big plan. Could get thrown to the wolves. What what possibly could this dynamic huge groundbreaking attempt. Be for the Oakland Raiders got insane. As we heard everyone connected to them literally Quinton Williams Devon why at Oliver and now. The most recent name is to Wayne Haskins. Now, I know a lot of raiders spans laugh at thought of that. But this is where it gets really interesting division in Oakland right now is that there are coaches there that really liked main Haskins. They're also coaches there that are not sold their car is the future. So is Oakland sitting there four knowing that Wayne Haskins might fall into their lap or hoping he falls into their lap. There's a lot of rumors about that right now. Or are they trying to play someone to train up with the jets to Oakland gift Quinton Williams? That's kind of where I'm weaning right now. I do think they want the jets to get out of that pick in fear that if they don't the general take when Williams and that's been there guy all along. This is a team that needs stars on the defensive line because they traded Khalil Mack. They don't have any. I know they use a lot of picks Matt area last year. I think Mary's hers could be an okay player. PJ hall hasn't shown anything yet right now. So Oakland all options are on the table for them right now. And it's very very interesting. All right. So if Haskins goes three and Williams. Does four Naida Tampa at five with Devon white. And Josh Allen still on the board. I think it would be I think Todd Bowles, I know Todd Bowles pick their and Lee here when he was in New York that was Todd Bowles spic you want speed at linebacker. He wants leadership at linebacker Tampa has loved Devon white for months now. I think if he's sitting there at five they would celebrate with happiness that they didn't have to move to get him. So you were telling me now that the way we just went through the MacIntosh of the first five picks. There's a legitimate chance that my New York football giants are landing maybe an elite talent edge rusher. Sixth overall in Josh Allen. I wouldn't rule it out at all. I would not rule that out at all. They get the guy who originally originally from jersey. Now, the interesting thing was the giants here. I have a belief that they've Gettleman has done a really nice job for once here with the smokescreens. And that the giants wanna quarterback at six as much as we keep hearing. They are content taking one at seventeen there's not even the guaranteed that. There will be one is seventeen. I don't see how team can take that kind of risk. So who? Do you think he likes because you know, I'm based out of New York, and we try to break down the code every day. And we just we have no idea of what's going on half the time. Do you look at him and say he likes Jones, we've heard that lock. We've heard that everyone seems to be opposed. The fact that Dwayne Haskins if someone who's interested in then lately for the rumor keyed up and maybe Josh Rosen lands to the New York Giants at some point. Yeah. There's a lot of sect year. I think they, you know, obviously, Daniel Jones there was a lot of smoke around them taking him at seventeen.
Odell Beckham fires back at Giants GM's comments in Twitter tirade, says he's only a 'cancer' for a 'losing' team
"Yes. Odell Beckham junior says on Twitter that the giants are okay. With losing former giants receiver went on tweeting spree Monday night took offence to the perception that he's a cancer in the locker room. He also expressed his discontent with New York. Giants general manager Dave Gettleman coach, Pat Shurmur. He said, I guess the fine ask anyone of my teammates of who. I was as a teammate and a man and a person. Yes, I'm cancer to a place. That's okay. With losing. Because I wanna win that badge. Or absolutely correct. I have heard. Not that I have an in in the giants locker room. But I heard that there are a lot of people that lights Odell Beckham junior in that locker room and thought he was a good team
NFL Draft 2019: Notable Picks from Latest Expert Mock Drafts
"In reality isn't a difficult project. What is going to happen when we don't know in particular with this draft. We don't know what's going to happen. The number one pig came to get this thing over with. So he could really find out what's going on as opposed to all these different mock drafts that are out there. I'm right there with you. And I want to thank you for allowing me to come on the show. But it's a lot of group thing group three group out there. And that's the biggest thing that you see right now. It's a lot of my drafts. Everybody's just tired of becomes tired exercise. And we just wanna get it up to see the actually van happy. Now. How many have you done yourself, Jordan? I went back and looking I see one that was in January. Did you think that was your first one that was released pretty it's pretty close to what would be current stuff? Now, how many mock drafts have you come up with from January till now so I'll like to do one at the midway point before the combine. And then I do another one the week of the draft. So I'll be coming out with another one probably on Thursday morning. Okay. Now, how significant of a change would you have overall? He was certain things going to be changed. But the big the big pigs. You think there's going to be significant change from yours? The original ones. Now, I think there will be and I think it's going to start with calamari, and they both have those guys flip flop. Out in Nate both at the second big. And then we'll see what happens from there. Okay. So do you think your and we're talking about Jordan Reed and L draft staff writer for cover one host of the draft board podcast. You think for sure it is a foregone conclusion cliff Kingsbury in the Zona cardinals are going to draft collar with the number one pick. I don't wanna say it's a foregone conclusion because it at the same time last year everyone thought that Sam darnold was going to be the big to the Cleveland Browns just a year ago. So I think it's probably about seventy five percent chance of going to the cardinals. But we all know we just have to buckle up and see what happens during the drag because things could change at any moment. You mentioned some touched on before. Why does that keep happening years ago? It was Goff and Wenzel. They're not going to be top guys. Boom. What do you know team straight up? They go one to last year was all about darnold. Nobody knew Baker Mayfield gonna go number one. And then he did this year. It's all all about Murray, and even has to a certain degree where people were saying, oh has is going to be gone before. Let's say number six the giants pick. Now, all of a sudden, it sounds like not only may be there. But the giants may not even want them. They'll take Daniel Jones with number sakes. Why does that happen? Why are people so all over the place with quarterbacks in particular in these drafts leading up to the actual draft those quarterbacks other most important position, not only football. Sports period. It has nobody has a clue about football. They know exactly what the quarterback does and how they operate. So with that being said with these quarterbacks flopping over the past few months and even weeks, it just shows how much lack of infield that we do have. And we're not ineffective. So we're not supposed the curtain back and meet with these guys person or gets to know them personally. So we don't know what's going on in the mind that they've got them in or these other executives going on around the league, Jordan. I respect the honesty right there. You're right. Still fun. It's all about so fun to read about I get and we got to do it, and it's fun to project different things. But I guess the reality is without let's say, there's no Andrew luck there, and nobody knows for certain who's going number one without that. It's hard to project these things and the GM's arm can give anybody Dave Gettleman not gonna come out and tell Joe giant fan or whoever in the media what he's going to do it his pick. Why should he right? Jordan. Right. I mean, we saw Jon Gruden sin their whole scouting staff home. So it just shows you just how secretive these plans are and no team really wants their hands shown or what is going to be revealed on draft. They so I think we're gonna we're gonna see a while. Right. If I'm not sure exactly what the giants are going to do. But I think they're going to get a lot of backlash if they somehow don't find the quarterback future. Whether that's at six or at seventeen so let's get into some specifics here, we're talking about Jordan Reed NFL draft staff writer for cover one host of the draft board podcast. You mentioned you think the cardinals are going to take collar Murray with the number one pick. Do you think that's a mistake? I was talking before about how an organization can hire new head coach draft a quarterback in the first round last year guy. What was the best quarterback coming out less? Your Josh Rosen. And then a you later fire the head coach cliff kings, Mary you could certainly argue whether that was a good higher. Not. And I don't think it is. And now take collar Murray with the number one overall picks. Do you think will be good pick a good move for this car does organization? To keep that number one pick and take collar Murray. I think it would be and I say or I'll put it this way cliff Kingsbury, everyone likes to point out just how fancy as offense is and how well operated at Texas Tech. But it really didn't work like a lot of people were saying that it worked should have work and with cliff Kingsbury, he's probably gonna get gonna get one chance to be an NFL head coach and what better way into your guy in there. He has no ties to Josh Rosen. He was not there when the team drafted him last year, and he has he doesn't have a freelance relationship with him. But on the flip side with Colin Murray. We've seen him and his offense and everybody seems famous video circulating on. If cliff gains vary ever had the overall selection that he without question would say column, Mary so I think with Kyla Mary why such a great fit in this offense. If you think about all the great young quarterback that entered the league over the past few years and even going back to last year with Baker Mayfield. Sam Donald Josh Allen. Even Lamar Jackson to an extent all of them have have had one. Thing in common, and that's having the ability to create all script or being able to operate and when things break down, and that's exactly what column or is able to do. But with Josh Rosen and the state of Arizona Cardinals off it's a front. I think if they're able to select calamari he can kinda relaxed weakness that they have a front just because of the lack just because of the -bility he has to create scripts though, I think he would be a really good fit in Arizona. Interesting fascinated see a if they keep the big if they do in fact, take him and see what happens with Josh Rosen. And then obviously how it's going to pan out because Kingsbury Murray will be must watch to see how that works out for the cardinals. If in fact, they team up who's the team most likely to trade down from two or three there's a lot of rumors teams will to trade down on this. Good debt specially defensively. Do you see the Niners? Do you see the jets maybe trading out of their top spots here? I think the night is it gonna take if they're just because they haven't used need off of the they don't have anybody there. Now, they did trae for deport but they still need some help off of the age. I think they're sit along the interior would force Buckner Eric St. and now with Solomon Thomas transition inside. So I think they're fine on the interior but outside of D Ford. They don't have any other threat coming off the edge. So you plays both in there with that young up and coming into your your, and then you pair would be Ford. I think that would be a really good combination of front now. One thing that's a really interesting spot is the New York Jets at three because is very wide open out there that they wanna trade back just because they don't think there's a lot of value there at that. But they only have six peaks. So they wanna get back and maybe regain some of those recoup some of those that they had to trade for last year when they acquire them darnold. So maybe they wanna trade back and still get that edge rusher that they need even if Quinton Williams or Josh Allen is there. And maybe they have those guys graded similarly on their boards day. Okay. With trade him back. Maybe six or seven is still getting a guy like a month with or somebody of that nature. Now who would be the team most likely to trade up with the jets for number three. See that's the biggest problem because this similar to last year's draft is that there's no quarterback that teams wanna trade up for third spot like a Sam darnold from last year. So it takes two to party and with a trade. They don't have a partner right now. I think but maybe some team has Haskins on their board. Maybe like Cincinnati at eleven I could see them or Washington trading. Alway from fifteen up to three now with a lot of draft capital. But I'm just using example, we have teams that could straight up. So that overall selection, right? And that's why it's intriguing when you look at what the jets having that number three big rumor to be wanting to trade out of it. I mean, if they don't think that Alan is war that I don't know what they're thinking there. I wanna get more picks back. Maybe get good players. Let's say the do trade, in fact with the giants team that, you know, look, it was rumored last year that that could possibly happen is rumored again this year. Because the giants won't their quarterback. Do you think the giants need to trade up from six to get there the quarterback that they want? I know Gettleman throwing out a lot of smokescreens here. But ultimately, do you think has gains or Jones will be there at number six for the giants thing Jones definitely will be and odd just don't really know about Haskins right now. Because last week we saw that he was going to be a top five selection this week. They're saying, right. Fifteen. So there's a lot of rumors out there. And we really don't know. But if the giants won't be sure I think they should trade up to the third spot to secure their guy. Just because if easier guys go hitting trade up and get him and don't wait on anybody. Just in case team jumps you. And now you're gonna be stuck maybe reaching on through lock or even Daniel Jones who do you like better out of those? I'm assuming you like Murray the best out of the quarterbacks. Give me your take on Haskins Jones. So I have it Murray at the top. And then I have happiness, and then I have locked and then have Danny Jones right after that. And I'm a big fan of the top two guys in Haskins emerge. And I say that because they are a bit different as far as this guilty. I don't know we talked about earlier folks here. What I love about him is. Yes, he's a one year start.
Dave Gettleman: 'I'm Not Going to Force a Pick' for Giants' Needs in NFL Draft
"Going in. Dave Gettleman also spoke, of course, always talking about quarterbacks when you're talking about the New York Giants for being the quarterback club of of a team in this kind of a market back is a load is a mental load, and you've got really vet out the backgrounds of these guys just like being the head coach of this team is a load being a quarterback so load to more than just looking at a guys physical talent to buy his
"gettleman" Discussed on Big Blue View
"In six years since avert has been around. But you only need to listen to one the latest one to get caught up on everything. In tech news virtuous is on apple podcasts. Spotify everywhere else. You listen to podcasts. Check it out. So giants fans Gettleman is preaching patients. Even he seems to realize that he has rolled the dice here. He understands what kind of a player he traded away. He understands that. There's no real way at this point in time. To know if the giants will come out of this trade looking good or looking bad. He knows that. He feels like he got the best possible value that he could get but we have to see if the giants are a winning team or a losing team. A couple of years down the road. Let's see Djibril peppers is the kind of player the giants think in hope that he will be see what they're able to do with the seventeenth overall pick in the draft. What they're able to do with the ninety fifth overall pick in the draft that they got from the Browns. And we'll see you know, history will judge we can't tell now I mean as Gettleman head indicated it's an instant gratification world, everybody wants to put grades on things as soon as they happen. But let's see what happens down the road. Let's see if Gettleman is able to pull this off to make the giants of winning team, you know, in a somewhat unconventional way in you know, we'll see what we'll see what happens. And you know, I I've been saying that big blue view that it's going to take time it's going to take patients, and that also seems to be where Gettleman was today in his remarks to giants beat writers during a conference call also the final thing that we're going to hear is Gettleman once again reiterating support for ally manning, and once again, speaking about the fact that he believes that the negative narrative that has been. Surrounding manning, you know, for the last couple of years is really unfair to him. So let's give that final clip lists. And then I'll come back for some for some wrap up thoughts. I shouldn't Indianapolis, and I'll say it again you turn around and take a look at what happened last year. Once we got a little line fixed loop. You know, better we're gonna continue working on that. And look what we did the second half of the year on offense. So again this narrative. Did you is can't play is a crock? I'm telling you. So at the end of the day, you guys go say get them out of his mind or those talking about when he value. It's players. That's really what it is. There you have it giants fans Gettleman saying that the narrative surrounding thirty eight year old Eli manning who will be back for a sixteenth season is a crock and also, you know, saying that there really wasn't a decision to make in terms of whether manning would be back as the team's quarterback in two thousand and nineteen. We didn't get into with Dave, you know, what he might do in the draft. Whether he would select a quarterback in the first round all of that. You know, we have covered those things with him. We covered those things with him in Indianapolis. We know that the giants are looking for that guy who will replace Eli manning. But he made it clear that there is still a belief in ally, you know, at least in the short term. So there you have it giants. Fans as far as Gettleman as far as his discussion of Beckham his discussion of why they made the trade why they are moving forward with ally. Manning what the plan is which seems to be trying to to both win games. Now. Get better in the short term set the giants up for long term success. Hopefully, you enjoyed this show. You enjoyed being able to listen to some of the clips from Gettleman press conference this morning as always we thank you for listening..
"gettleman" Discussed on Big Blue View
"Media network. I am damp Zuta. I am joined here by Chris flung, and we're getting ready to preview the giants week five game against the Carolina Panthers giants coming in at one and three. The Panthers had a weird week four by because for some reason, teams need rests after three weeks, but they come into this game two and one, Chris, you excited for this game also, yes, feel like if I don't say yes, it will wind up being an exciting game and I'll just feel stupid for not being excited. Yeah, I, I feel you with the hesitation there. Giants. Football has not been super fun to watch over the first four weeks of the season. Maybe that'll change this week what they're going to be going into Carolina. And a team. They're somewhat familiar with just because of how much back and forth. There's been between these two rosters over the past year. It has leave become almost running gag at this point that if you know once the giants hired, Dave Gettleman, Dave Gettleman hired Mike Shula, and then if you have Carolina Panthers on your resume, odds are you're going to wind up being a giant, oh, and special teams coordinator as well a at this point. I honestly think I've lost count of how many Panthers are or have been members of the giants between the first round of free agency, the late around the free agency, and then the waiver wire and everything. After final cut downs, it's been kinda crazy. Yeah, kind of felt like through training camp almost every other day there was some type of former panther getting cycled in or out just through that. Process. So we have Dave Gettleman former team, Dave gentleman's current team, and one of them is slightly better than the other one we could say. And that is not the one. Dave Gettleman is currently running. No, it. It's been an ugly, start it with the exception of their given Houston. It's been ugly start to the season for the giants. I suppose we could maybe put an exception for the Jacksonville game. That's a good team. They played them close, but yet will just say ugly. Yeah, that's that's a safe word for it. I think I definitely not pretty, uh, so it might not get much prettier in this game. A Carolina's again, only played three games, but in those games had been significantly better if we break it down here, Carolina is eighth in football outsiders Devia way. Again, that's their team efficiency metric, their six offense. A what? Surprising is the really twenty four th in defense, but their fourth and special teams, the giants come in twenty six indeedy away twenty-second on offense. Twenty eighth on defense in two thousand. I on special teams. So if you're just looking at those numbers across the board that is not going the giants way? No, not not. At all. The different on the special teams for me is probably the scariest because that no matter who they try that always seems to be a hold your breath moment. It's really amazing that not only it's not like they can't even find someone who can return kicks or pints. Well, it's, they've struggled to find people who can catch the ball, went there back. They're like, yeah, it's the venture just with the ball wending in the returners hands, which I feel like that shouldn't be staying. Yeah, it. It shouldn't be a hard bar to get. Above, but apparently that's that's where we are with giants returners here. I suppose we could take a moment. No recognize how much altered gross has has improved because he definitely has over last year. But if you're talking about your kicker, improving hits. Not good times. Yes, special teams has not been great and Dwayne Harris who was not really great during his giants. Tenure was just AFC special teams player of the week for Oakland. So apparently you get off the giants. He become against special teams player again..
"gettleman" Discussed on The Bill Barnwell Show
"You know you're going to pay to get them to come on wanna play in cleveland now bill the other thing i would say is i'm gonna turn back to john dorsey and also dave gettleman to make this point the nfl has to if you're a head coach or gm there's like three of them in the nfl that i think in truly execute their vision of roster building how they want to because three ality is like the leash is so ridiculously short and i'm sure there was more to it beyond just seasons didn't finish how the team one of them too but think about this dave gettleman was the general manager of a team that went fifteen and one and was the favourite in most people's is going into the super bowl and a year and a half later it was fired on dorsey helped the chiefs make it to the playoffs i believe in consecutive seasons fired last june like you can't tell me that if you're an nfl gm do you have to understand like you are making moves that even if you know there's a chance they won't necessarily work great over the long haul you have to do it in the in the short term to secure yourself it's like how these baseball contracts work you think people do you think the angel angel's thought that albert pools was going to be worth twenty seven point five million dollars in his age thirty eight or thirty nine season right david price to the red sox thirty two million dollars gimme a break smart baseball people knew that wasn't probably going to be the best spending of thirty plus million dollars in a season but in order to secure those players you gotta pay him huge numbers for the years thirty thirty one thirty two seasons so the browns are doing the same thing like pay these guys a ton of money up front in order to get them stick around for the long haul.
"gettleman" Discussed on WGR 550 Sports Radio
"Him the opportunity to the battle it and and being with him prayers and thoughts with dave gettleman for a successful recovery from his lymphoma and a good long run into the general manager of the giants i think the league is better when guys they dave gettleman are in it so we wish him well speaking of old school old timers bill belichick spoke to the media today in foxborough day one of the mandatory minicamp for the for the patriots and belcher cat a couple of things to say in particular he was asked a lot about the return of tom brady and what that meant and as you might imagine bill belichick was not exactly forthcoming here's what he had to say did everyone before tom good understanding wearing charter sets always had a good relationship with home concerned at all that he chose to stay away from ot as he's done it before the whole time if he fears there was time zone i mean look against volunteer programs that's what it is if that's better okay it's gotta be you think it's tough to be a patriots beat reporter the problem is because of the way bill belichick is seeing follow my reasoning is more about the reporters than it is bill in the answers because you're not going to get anything out of him but you have to do your job you gotta you gotta ask those questions and you know bill doesn't want to be asked him he's he's totally disinterested in it but she's still gotta get there and you gotta say okay bill what can you tell us about tom brady's absence in the in the ot as well i'd like i just want to talk about the players you gotta ask going through the motions of your job and getting nothing in return and that's gotta be frustrated and that's all they get really ever get gotta ask those questions knowing that you're not gonna get anything and that's all you get from ballot check i mean nobody's ever when's the last time a significant important quotas ever come out of ballot check or quite frankly any of those players under belgian.
"gettleman" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM
"I mentioned this at the top with dave gettleman we're learning about dave gettleman the giants general manager as opposed to dave gettleman the carolina general manager what his words actually mean and i gotta tell you look at it the four picks the giants have made obviously the big one was saquon round one will hernandez the guard out of texas el paso lorenzo carter the edge pass rusher from georgia and bj hill the defensive tackle from nc state the one thing i'm learning about dave gettleman is he says what he says and he means what he says because you never got the impression that he was ever in love with any of these quarterbacks and that probably is a big part of the decision to not take a quarterback i think part of it is probably the belief in davis webb and one thing i hear from giant fans who wanted the quarterback is how can you believe in davis webb he didn't play last year that's not an indicator considering this brand new general manager and a brand new coaching staff i don't know what davis webb is going to be i have no idea i certainly can't sit here today and tell you davis webb is going to be nothing how would any of us know now would i have and this is the order of business on the barclay decision would i have drafted a quarterback at number two overall the answer is yes with all of that said and i've made that opinion clear for the last five months that i would use the lottery ticket to try to find my heirapparent eli manning and that doesn't mean i'm eliminating davis webb that doesn't mean i'm throwing him to the side i now have both of them on my roster and we'll see over the next couple of years how things develop but with that said the one thing i can't do right now i can't say it to a giant fan i can't tell you that even though i disagree and i would have gone quarterback i can't tell.
"gettleman" Discussed on The MMQB Podcast with Albert Breer
"They are putting a clock on dave gettleman and on pat shurmur because if you take a quarterback it's okay now when's the transition going to happen and these guys barely ever sit the guys who are taking that high right so like ones that can happen and when are you going to go through the rebuilt if you take a saquon barkley or you take a bradley chubb there well then you're saying we're all in on eli and we're creating we're creating an essence a two or three year window where we have to win now because we just passed on an opportunity to move to the next guy now what i'm hearing here it get them has been very i mean i've heard like closed blinds in that building in east rutherford right he's been quiet about it the one thing the people who know dave said to me and told me to pay attention to is that gold jacket comment he keeps making and that's actually real and that means something and that's why he may be unlikely to trae down and i remember talking to somebody a couple of days ago who said to me you know if you're paying attention to that there's one maybe two guys in this draft who fit that description right now and one of them's a guard so it's probably only one and that saquon barkley it's i i'm also starting to wonder bird if it doesn't even matter who the cleveland browns taken number one that unless somebody calls with something stupid and makes galman an offer that he can't refuse that he stays there and he takes barclay and he continues to try to build this football team hey look everybody's going nuts about the giants getting a quarterback they can very easily get a quarterback at the top of the second round or the top of the third round now they also have to third round picks that they can maneuver around with and if they want to slide back into the second to go grab somebody they can and it's interesting because when you're at the top of the draft and you and i built over this for a while even on this podcast.
"gettleman" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM
"Stockpile draft picks and build a team that way malik possible you could trade down a couple of spots and still get the guy who want whether it's bradley show whether it's quit nelson out of notre dame you could easily do that maybe a team like denver wants to move up to make sure they get the guy at quarterback before the jets picket three that could happen i mean there are just so many different domino's sin variables that are gonna come into play between now and next thursday that could alter this stay but is seems to be alive smoke seems to be a lot of substance to this idea that dave gettleman does any of these quarterbacks and dave gettleman calm next thursday's going to either take saquon barkley or trade the pick and that's case well it's a big risk and he'd better hope that all these quarterbacks that he passes up on and up being flops because if you see let's say for argument's sakes rosen and mayfield killing it for next seven years nfl and the giants are still searching for answers if the position you're going to be saying coulda shoulda woulda four thirty six here on this early teens day jj after the cianci stransky john you to the overnight in four tony page right here on the fan i wanna hear from.
"gettleman" Discussed on Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM
"He went from tv to getting back and being being a head coach with dave gettleman dave gettleman had had this to say about odell beckham junior yesterday in the past two days have been two reports about odell they've been floated that he won't take the field without an extension and the rams are interested in trading fun i understand the reports people are gonna print stuff i get it but i want you to understand this neither odell nor his agent have contacted us regarding either report okay so you look he hasn't said he's off the block but i gave gilman came from carolina where they jettison steve smith and still went to the super bowl is it looks a great player a hall of fame caliber player do you believe that odell beckham junior plays next year for the giants i don't know i thought it was a certainty based on the owners comments during the season that was going to be here for a long time but you see comments just recently where he's getting tired of of having to talk about it and they're using terms like he's on the roster right now so that that language never entered into the conversation until until very recently and look they just moved on from j p p this is this is a new administration and the old way wasn't working they want more law and order they want more disciplined they know that that worked with tom coughlin they know that that worked with bill parcells and in order to commit to a player you need to know that that player is committed to you went to the things the organization believes in especially if you're making a longterm financial commitment with very little ability to to do anything to the player once you sign the contract i mean finds at that point become meaningless because he makes so much money it's a fraction of what he makes so i would have said if we'd had this conversation mother to go i think it depends on the way odell approaches things moving forward and and how much commitment they see from him to to be on board with the vision of the future the giants i i think that's a great point you you you just pointed out in regards to we're odell goes moving forward we see.
"gettleman" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM
"A franchise that not always great talent on the field but he is maturing and he is growing as a person off the field now i don't envision a scenario even though john mayer said that nobody is untouchable when you coming off at three and thirteen year i'd be very surprised if beckham is traded between now and it started a season i find that highly unlikely not selling from a position of strength giants find a way somehow someway to work this out with beckham and to see him turn over a new leaf but it's quite obvious that if you think that this is going to be a walk in the park and that the giants are going to bend over backwards to every single one of odell beckham junior's demands you got another thing coming not only because of dave gettleman prior track record because of what you heard from your owner on sunday for beckham my ticket simple grow up shape up or you're going to be shipped out then you get to the yankees alison we count down the days it can't get here soon enough opening day thursday you got the mets at one o'clock against the cardinals got the yankees with all the expectations with all the hype going into the year the yankees in toronto on thursday but got bad news over the weekend real bad news of the weekend surrounding guy who's got a chance to be i think one of your best players so we know the knock on greg bird over the last few years is banned terrific talent but wake me up when he's gonna play a full season one is great bird going to be able to go through a hundred sixty two games and give you a hundred thirty gave you a hundred forty hasn't done any point is big league career last year he had the issue with the foot the broken bone that they didn't know about bird miss pretty much the entire year came back in september and was great in fact greg bird was probably the best yankee hitter in the postseason a year ago he provides balanced because he's a lefty power hitter he's a guy that i've been making the.
"gettleman" Discussed on The MMQB Podcast with Albert Breer
"Will why while we have for the questions are jali be hang for the the six pack because like i've showing a wad of courage here on a really healthy michael jordan versus the utah jazz one he ansari fever albert brir tears very courage whatever you want to call and you're like it's just that sort of what i'm feeling you know let let me let me call up sports illustrated so now so we can get you as their man of the now what are you kidding me tim row hands already outside his house waiting to do the interview odd world file encourage all right so we're going to jump right the six pack you guys know how this works i put out the call for questions on twitter you guys ask i pick six if i pick yours you get the answer right year and you get a shout out on twitter so we're gonna start here with questionable water from amber this'll interest loop is from amber rele oh6 andrew door door well go into the giants now for those who don't know in your door well prowall guard for the carolina panthers was brian the league by dave gettleman the giants general manager and nor well is one of these players in an interesting spot because the giants could that the panthers could tag him but the number that position because they grew ball offense of wyman together is around is going to be around fourteen million so they basically be paying him like a tackle to keep them in so look i think the debt entered nor wealth for that reason gets to the market in the giants would make sense that will be one way for the giants to be able to say you know what we need to fix our offense why we need the answers we need we need to find guys were ready to play right now this guy's ready to play right now we don't need a project college players into this let's go get him and i think he would make some sense.
"gettleman" Discussed on The Rich Eisen Show
"What a great response dj that's a precedent my wife looked at my my wife looked at the credit card bill do the day she goes i keeps there's this like a seven dollar dinner charge every night how much money they give you for dinner thinks like 50 bucks during every nice with right next to the hotel it's easy convenient it's convenient now convenience you know that's what it's all about okay so do you still think donald's one i saw in your first mock draft that you had the giants passing on josh rosen taking sake barkley in rosen falling two the jets if that happens dj not only would you beal nostress 'damas bought that would set up a story line in the new york city football media for a decade plus for a decade plus daniel i did it for the rich adding chill and larry donald me very happy of josh rosenfeld majette really it was so what will give me your thinking behind all of that dj yeah wicket to me it it's going to be fascinated the real decision i think comes in at number two what view and it wanted they're going to be on one or two tracks it's we are in full rebuild look to the future we have dave gettleman back in the building who was around one eu i want a couple of rings um and still thinks that he likes got a little bit less than he thinks man we get odell beckham back healthy i go out and get him say want berkeley and then we can put this thing right back round be in the playoffs next year so with this kind of one of those two lines of thinking so in this one you know you'll do a tworound different scenarios doing these drafts but in this one this is the uh utilized people got a little west uh mocked drafty theory well that would be a um i mean this would be a dream jay z scenario that had sake one right there in uh right there in his backyard in the in the new york city metropolitan area but you think rosen would fall past any other quarterback needy teens uh light say denver mean denver's getting a looksee it both masefield and alan because their coach and the senior bowl so what do you think they're while the vibe and again i try to do these mocked wraps up a.
"gettleman" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM
"The giants and dave gettleman i like this guy go monroe item by comes across to us a message it's all about waiting and that's all the matters that steps mike on a guy who first impression is great but he's all about win of course you can say you're going to rebuild the offense of lining you'd better rebuild the offense of line you can say you're gonna find the right coach you'd better find the right coach got a win game so i think the first impression i agree with you i like him to is coming across great but like it is with any sport the any team in this town time will tell of confident the joints will get it right early on a wrong with ben mack cannot thinks it an underrated wrong every now and then he got a role ray handley through date but i will see one hundred if you go with the every other one cedras and they always going to get it right yes that it that is fair let's go to jail and bloomfield joe how're are you what's up hey guys how are you joked up i i actually want to talk about an interesting treat scenario or the giants for the draft i know it's early in the process but you know just looking at what the ground pass and if the giants treat back to four with the ramp they have all of those draft pick that they've acquired in the past including the thirty three in the thirty five the giants treat back to four the browns men have the one in the two biggest there chew stuff they get their quarterback and they get another playmaker at three d indianapolis colts are not gonna take quarterback because they're andrew block and that would leave that other quarterback there for the giant pick whoever they choose and they would acquire a whole bunch of other assets from the ground battle.
"gettleman" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM
"And i would go wind to get our coffee before getting into cold tub dave gettleman would always be there and he would always talk to us and know i've had a great relationship with them in a thing that i loved about his press conference if you can see his sincerety of who used as a person that he loves the new york giants he loves the opportunity that it was given and and you could just here i'm i'm not here to make promises but what i'm here to do is that we're going to kick but every day and work to get this back to work needs to be in and what else do you love about a what is the first thing that he said you know it's no joke this offense of wine needs to be addressed and we need to help this group and we need to change the culture around here starting with leaders and and he gets it in he knows what it takes to put championship products out on the football field so for dave gettleman to get this job i was beyond excited and for all of us in an anybody on the east coast or any muir giant fan who've watch his team struggle this is the one side and good thing that heading into 2018 that you know you could be proud of an excited about the end this season in 2017 the right way knowing that we have a general manager and placed it's going to turn things round look in a win right away in two thousand eighteen and with that being said the answer the question directly in terms of the giants quarterback eli manning say that to wealth eagle game is not an anomaly and he doesn't believe it is will move forward so giant seemed to be in place in kelemen seems to have the idea that and believe that he lied manning we'll be the giants quarterback in two thousand eighteen and.