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WKPWP - Interview Friday: "Mean" Gene Okerlund's understudy and replacement in the AWA and WWF, Ken Resnick, gives insights on Gene (1-4-19)

The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

1:22:41 hr | 1 year ago

WKPWP - Interview Friday: "Mean" Gene Okerlund's understudy and replacement in the AWA and WWF, Ken Resnick, gives insights on Gene (1-4-19)

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The term promo was an interview they were interviewed by this gentleman mean Jean Oakland who conveyed an every man quality to himself with that proper intimidation and respect and at times come rotary with these professional wrestlers, these tough athletes that he was interviewing about their next big fight and his name was gene Oakland, Jesse Ventura dubbed him mean Jean Oakland hokey. Ghan made that Monica even more famous and gene was the face and the voice of my early years watching professional wrestling, gene, Oakland had his best years. I would argue he was most well suited in a best fit in his role in the Awa where he spent the seventies and early eighties. The longest stretch of his career. The most the largest body of work is by far what he did in Awa more than what he would later do for the WWF and WCW, but he is an icon. His death has received mainstream coverage that seems to be on the level of what say dusty Rhodes received which I thought was on the higher end of expectations for dusty. And also for me, gene. And and I'm saddened by his death. He's seventy six years old had a kidney replacement, and and health issues where people who are around him recently, kind of new things things had turned into a struggle for him. But boy did he live a a a life of of big big travels in into progressing industry hitting all three of the big major brands. The Awa was part of the big three. It was the largest geographical territory from the sixties through the eighties, and then jump to the WWF when Vince McMahon paid paid a lot of people who work for the Awa to come work for him at a time when he looked at that vast territory of Awa as a key to his success with national expansion Jesse Ventura hulk HOGAN, Dr David Schultz, Bobby Heenan on and on. I mean, it was the the wrestlers that he plucked from Awa was a major major factor in his early success. And then he would go on to be part of w w nitro years giving WCW some of that that look and feel familiarity to fans who had otherwise primarily watched the WWF perceive that as a major league, so Gino. Lynn dead this week at age seventy six and on today's Wade Keller. Pro wrestling podcast interview. Friday for January fourth two thousand eighteen I am very pleased to be joined by someone who I think can speak better about Gino Oakland than just about anybody. When it comes to what he was like behind the scenes, and that is his under study and replacement in the Awa killer, Ken Resnick is also be dubbed Ken Resnick worked under me, gene, Oakland and Awa and then when she left he replaced him and became the person who literally did what Jean Oakland had done prior. Can would eventually also go to the WWF where Gino Lind was although not for long, gene was cutting back schedule at the time that Resnick arrived, and so his career path paralleled me jeans, and he learned from him. So I'm looking forward. To sharing with you all of cans, personal firsthand insights as someone who did the job, Gino Kalin, did and got to know him on a professional and personal level. So after this break, we'll come back in talk with Ken about, gene. I want to remind you that the Thursday flagship edition of the way Keller person podcast dropped yesterday. Thursday, January third and progressing towards columnist. Greg parks was my guest and for about an hour and a half. We talked about the top ten stories of twenty eighteen Greg on Twitter said this was one of his favorite podcast he had ever done. And we've done a lot together. And he's done a lot a lot a lot hundreds and hundreds of podcast without me. I'm proud of it too. I think you'll really enjoyed Greg. 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Check it out PW podcasts dot com are so right after this Ken Resnick joins me. I'm excited about this really looking forward to you getting. To hear these stories that can shares about me, gene, Oakland. Hi outline help. My family's New Year's resolution is to be more active, but we could use some new styles for motivation run into old navy navy. Yup. Right now, all navy active styles for the family are up to fifty percent off kick it into gear with leggings, mesh, teas and more. Fifty percent off who I'm feeling motivated already. Top started to seven bucks for adults. Six bucks for kids with compression leggings active pants from fifteen dollars for adults twelve dollars for kids, kids gentleman. Von we're going old navy. Hurry in for up to fifty percent of old navy active right now, it will be an old navy dot com. Vowed one through one thousand excludes in store clearance. You just bought a house bad news is you're one step closer to becoming your parents. 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That's where he had the largest national audience. But you have a tremendous insight. First person insight into gene Oakland in his. Awa days too in the sense that you were his replacement you add to fill some pretty big shoes. When gene went to the WWF. So I guess my first question for you is is what was your first exposure to gene as you're and talk about that a little bit. And then also your first interaction with him on a professional level, obviously being from Minnesota like gene was in living here. My first exposure as a wrestling fan and viewer was watching him on the Awa and even back, then I mean, he brought a different look to to the interviews. I mean, he he was more involved himself as a personality, and and was fun to watch. And then my first. Time meeting him was when Verne hired me I been doing sports for an NBC affiliate and met at a actually a celebrity golf and tennis charity tournament, and he called me later we had lunch. And that's when he hired me. So I was initially hired just to work with gene being the office kind of take some of the the interview load off of him because as you well know in those days every interview was markets Pacific. Unlike today, so on a interview day, you sometimes would have, you know, fifty or sixty interviews you had to do. So I it was very cordial gene tried to give me a lot of tips. And I kinda broke in doing some. Of the smaller markets, and gene was very good. You know, afterwards critiquing what I did. And and giving me tips, but in a trying to be very helpful way. And then it was just a very short time later when he just told Vern he was done and was going to WWF. So then all of a sudden, I was V guy and and doing all of them. You this is mostly about, gene. But I gotta ask you this about you. Or that had in this is in a way potentially about Jean that at the feel big pressure. I know gene had to feel big pressure replacing Mario O'Neill. And gene was beloved. I was at the age where Jeanne was I wasn't the adults who missed Mario Neil. And thought gene was this over the top carnival Barker like some of the people of of the Martin O'Neill generation thought he was my voice and face of the Awa he was the guy who interacted brilliantly on interviews with wrestlers. He's the one who made me beg my mom to take me to wrestling shows before she she even could fathom doing such a thing. And understood what this thing was all about. There's my generation then saw you show up, and we're like who's this guy with the mustache? How how did you feel about that? You're right there were huge shoes to fill and I was still learning on the job. And suddenly there was no more time for a learning curve. But I was so incredibly lucky that I had been around enough where I got such a amazing help and guidance. I mean, just think about being able to learn from the likes of of blackjack Lanza, and Bobby Heenan and Nick Bach winkle and the crusher, and luckily I had been around enough where they were trying to help me already knowing me, and with my, you know, best interest in as a side note. I'm sure you're aware of the story, but you know, Jean was. As like an emergency replacement for Mario Neil when there was a sag strike and Mario Neal is a member of sag after and couldn't be on air talent. And they knew gene a little bit. He was a salesman at the old WTC N channel eleven studios. And you know, we had a great, you know personality, and he was emergency fill in. And I mean was was a natural right? From the start. When when you when gene was giving you tips and you're working with him. What are some of the specific things that that you remember him helping you with in terms of the pacing the timing not stealing the scene. But also looking like, you're listening, which is such an art. Well, a line of it was more. Remember when your when when the talent is talking don't forget that you need to look at the camera. And even he had said when guys are really good talkers, let them talk. When guys aren't so good. You're going to need to to help them. And it he it it really wasn't so much trying to shape me. But he would say, you know, what on an interview remember when this happened? Now, you kind of did this and think about how better it might have been if you had done that. So it it it wasn't from a critical standpoint. And then really the the I mean, I I knew it myself, and as you said Jean was larger than life and really. The interviews when gene was doing it became both about the wrestlers. He was interviewing and himself. And when he suddenly left the best advice, I got came from blackjack Lanza and Jackson. Look, you you're following, gene. But don't be try and be, gene. You've gotta be yourself. And do it the way you would do it. And I had a chance and talked at length with gene with blackjack with Bobby with Nick. And I knew that I didn't have the. It wasn't my personality to over involve myself the way gene, did and kinda really took the interview process to to a whole new level. And I kind of made up my mind that especially with great talkers like Nick, and Bobby and the crusher that once they got going. Unless they needed me to interject. I I was going to just let them go that I always kind of had the philosophy when I took over that I needed to make it all about the talent. And my I guess way of trying to differentiate myself a little bit from gene was to be totally serious focused. And again, this was during the the K fehb era to make it as legitimate and serious as I could. And in fact, you know, eventually, I kinda got away from it. But I use the philosophy weighed that when especially the big name talent would kind of get on a roll. Unless they would say something really over the top one way or another. I purposely tried to to not react because I knew and rightfully so when I would watch interviews with, gene. I'm sure you did. And the fans did you would watch gene as much as you did the wrestlers. So I tried to purposely not react as much to make sure the viewer kept their focus on the wrestler. Remember if you want an anti experience where the show just starts and flows without interruption. You can become a VIP member. Tons of perks come with VIP membership with over thirty years of archives of over fifteen hundred back issues of the person torch weekly newsletter or podcast archives. Dating back to late two thousand four when we started doing wrestling podcasting hundreds of retro radio shows from the nineteen ninety s including my KFI AM show with over one hundred episodes. Of live calls. Journalists. Roundtables interviews, breaking news and more. 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And would could never be as good as gene in in in his you know, reactions and and the way he could, you know, pop in an instant, and I didn't want to I guess for for lack of anything come across as kind of a poor man's, gene. So. It. It's Inouye a criticism. I if anything it would be almost self directed. I just knew I could not be or I don't know that anybody ever could be as good as Jean was in the way, gene to the interviews to create kind of create a little bit of my own persona. I just needed a differ different overall philosophy as to how I was going to do it. But it it's in no way. I I mean Jean. Yeah. I had to borrow the phrase we used to use with Bret Hart. You know, gene, the best. There was in the best there ever will be. Yes in and that's the recognition that you had as chiens personality, and charisma and timing was in a category unto itself and the rules. You described for yourself are I think the? The default. Rules should be the default rules for any interviewer and we've seen interviewers overreact two moments. You know, you know, Sean Mooney did a lot of interviews with WB off with a lot of over the top characters. And you know, it's like you have to be the straight, man. And let them be you you being the straight man allows them to stand out more. And regardless of you know, you said the cafe Barra I think it is. I didn't think wrestling one hundred percent real watching you. So I think it's overblown people who are younger than us thinking everybody who watched in the mid eighties or early eighties or whatever thought wrestling was real we didn't. But when we watch wrestling, they made us believe it was real. And I think that rule should apply today despite the accessibility of information. I agree with you completely and one sometimes people will stop me or I'll get into a conversation. I tried. I I mean, you didn't talk about it. But most people were like, you even back in the K fehb era that this isn't real. But even you didn't know how much was real and how much wasn't real. And I tried to approach it. It's like if you go to a movie, and certainly the legions of fans to the Star Wars franchise when they walk in and sit down in the theater, they know it's not real. But for the two or two and a half hours. They wanna be so immersed in it that they believe for that timeframe, it's real or I guess more. So. Don't think about the fact that it's not real. And that's how I kinda like and my job is during the time. You're watching my portion whether it's was play by play or interviews. I wanted the viewer not to think about the fact that might not be real. Exactly. And gene and his approach which was different. Also didn't do anything to make it not seem real. But he had that he was in that that that special place that no other interviewer that I can think of occupied which was being able to be a personality, and and knowing it and not holding back on it. But also knowing where that line was I would say he was more artful and his peak years just like Bobby Heenan were in the Awa, and I actually thought in the WF in this is this is a Vince McMahon tone of the era. Not mean, gene, you know, deciding or losing his his sweet spot that he found in the Awa. But I think that that genes peak worked where he found that sweet spot to be a personality without taking away from the the wrestler's was rare territory that fewer interviewers have had. And it was in the Awa that he occupied it. I would agree on both counts. And part of it being behind the scenes, I think was a product of Verne ganja knowing how good gene was and pretty much left him alone to to do it as only he could. And I think as what you are alluding to Wade may have happened. Once he went to the WWF back, at least in those days Vincent was involved in every aspect, and and part of what you are talking about may have occurred because Vince still wanted it done a certain way. And it like in in any aspect of any job. If you would normally do all your way and suddenly your boss says, well, yeah, that's fine. But I also want you to do it this way, you kind of, you know, lose some of your focus in that you have to be focused on not only your way. But how someone else wants it to be? Well, I wanna go back today to be and then move forward to WBF afterwards with or explore that in a little more detail on when when you were observing gene we saw what was honor. What was offer a paint a picture for for me in the listeners of did? Gene, just sorta shut down and and sit on a chair and wait for the next. You know, when they take a break, for instance, or in between interviews, if you're waiting for a wrestler or was he gregarious and engaging or was he looking at notes or asking a lot of questions like paint, a picture of what that kind of a promo day or interview day was like, oh, June was more towards the gregarious interacting, you know, with all the wrestlers telling stories and laughing, but at the same time understand there wasn't a lot of that downtime because you know, market specific there were a lot of. Interviews that that had to get done. You know, nowadays, the they don't really do the stand-up interviews anymore. But even the ones they do our national where. Far more. So in fact, I think my record in WWF was one day at the mental and we did a hundred and eleven interviews. But with the Awa, you know, you still had to separate interviews for the the twin cities for lacrosse for Claire for Winnipeg for Chicago for Milwaukee for Denver for Salt Lake. So there was a lot of interviews. So it wasn't like you do an interview. And then have ten minutes to kind of be s with everybody. You know, you do an interview. And it was kinda like what's next, you know? Okay. Well, you know, what's the date? What's the card, and you wanna get right to the next interview? So there wasn't a whole lot of downtime. We generally would start at like nine in the morning when I came on board. We were doing them out at deal channel nine campus piece studios would doesn't exist anymore. And then we'd go about Levin, forty five or noon, and then everybody would kinda go there several ways for lunch, and then we'd come back at one thirty. And and started doing him again. And on Jill they got done. So there it was he was gregarious interacted with everyone, but everyone was pretty much focused on the on the next interview because the bottom line for the production people for studio time for the talent, everyone, the sooner we got done, the sooner everybody, get go home. So there wasn't a it was more focused than downtime. Helps he has. So come and talk about the dynamic with, gene. And the wrestlers he worked with a lot of people like think people aren't about David Letterman a Paul for like never talked off air their interaction was key red lights on cameras rolling. They seem like best friends, but keep it fresh. They didn't talk different circumstance in wrestling interviews, obviously like Louis, but how many one hundred and eighty degrees. Yes, we'll talk about gene in the wrestlers at work. And when they would clock out like what how how much was gene one of the boys. So to speak. Every bit of you know, he'd been there was accepted, and you know, down the road. So was I, but it it it just takes a while. I guess to to pay your dues, you know, earn your bones and because Jean had been there for quite a while on established himself. I mean, he was very much one of the boys. There was no, you know, K fading. You know, anything like that there? There was some of that when I first started but gradually after you know, gene left. I think all the guys knew I was there to make them look as good as could be, you know, there were time sometimes when at least with maybe lesser talent, gene. Gene, not purpose fully, but just gene being gene would almost overshadow. Arrest around interview. And that was never my way. So, you know, after a while I was accepted as one of the boys as well. Did did wrestlers seek trying to think how to how to phrase because I haven't idea in my head like seek jeans endorsement or approval on or off air in any way. Like where I mean it again, I'll use use a data talk show reference. Johnny Carson calling a comedian over to the desk. After the stand up was like this big endorsement was there anything with gene just did what I'm trying to get as good wrestler seat compliments from him on their interviews, or did it sort of stopped short of that gene had his role. They was good at it. But there was still a hierarchy in that day, which is not your Justin announcer, but you're an announcer, and you do your job we do ours. And I'm not really looking for quote your approval. There wasn't a hierarchy in involving, gene. And I don't think the wrestlers would seek his approval because unlike, you know, your reference to the tonight show with Johnny Carson, gene. Or I didn't lay out the interviews or decide who's going to be interviewed that was pretty much done in the Awa by you know, Verne and Greg. So there was no real avenue whether for someone to try and ingratiate themselves to gene thinking, you know, I'll get more interviews this way. So the there there wasn't the opportunity for gene too. Because you know, he Jeff. Genuinely likes someone or at a great relationship away to create like more interview time because when when we would get there, the interviews were always laid out. Was there anybody that you remember gene, not having chemistry with either surprisingly only on air or even maybe tension off area? Like, okay, you know, gene's gonna hold back a little bit or or, you know, he's just going to play, you know, play it more straight. Let them say their thing and move on. Because obviously, gene had chemistry with hulk HOGAN and enjoy playing off of I think Jesse Ventura and only. It was Jesse that internet or you came up with the name mean, gene. Yes. A lot of people thought it was hulk. Yep. But it was Jesse that had named him mean Jean and then hall picked up the mantra. And I've all was. Yeah. Just in the back of my mind taking pride in, you know, moving forward, you know, I was the only one that really hope gave a name to that. I mean, people still fans still refer to me as as killer can when you poke just came up with on his own one day. And I think it was. That, you know, gene. Behold. I got along great with hawk and it was hawks way of kind of. I think putting me over. But almost the exact opposite of what you were trying to with wrestlers trying to gain approval from gene, it was almost by doing that hawk was giving me his stamp of approval. I think you know, the Awa in that era has a reputation for just being a great promo era. Great interview era, they weren't even promo wasn't aware that really was utilized back, then I don't think right. No, no, just a interview. Yeah. Exactly. And I liked that it is. It's describing what it not arrested with a microphone doing a model, which is kind of a promo. It's an interview, and there's someone holding a microphone and ask them questions and leading things in a certain direction and reacting and how much I mean, I it pre degrade promos predated, gene, being the main guy holding the microphone in asking the questions, but part of that era being so good. And I I would put it above any other any of your territory, and I know RIC flair and Jim porn et and a number of others in that dusty Rhodes in that era hat were just fantastic youth Roddy piper early Roddy piper in in Georgia. But I just think that Awa is unmatched. I think it's number one. And I do think gene was absolutely a part of that Indiana. Cardio. Neil loyalists will push back a little bit. But I think jeans chemistry and playing off the rest of it's like you did and being being meek or makes it there. He's actually wasn't make. But he knew physically he wasn't supposed to act like he he wanted to act like he was intimidated by the wrestlers, but he also held his ground in new when to push back because he no he knew the promoters had us back in restaurants. Did anything physically to him that there'd be held pay any? He again, it was another line that he walked wrestler. Intimidating, but he didn't just cower in the presence of the heels when they bullied him picked on him or maybe even slightly implied physical intimidation off. I think you're Ryan again hood what I talked about. He and then something you you can't really teach someone I mean, just gene just had that natural instinct about how to react to and and play on. Off, you know, Marty O'Neill for the most part was even before. I mean, I was aware of him and watched him, but. He was like the the ultimate straight, man. All Marty O'Neill to the wrestlers was like Ed McMahon to Johnny Carson once in a while and would kind of through what he said or his reactions almost be able to steal a scene or a bit from Johnny. But I don't think Mario Neil ever. Did that he was the absolute ultimate straight man to the wrestlers. And even though gene was smaller than most of the wrestlers mighty O'Neill was even much smaller yet. So I don't think there was ever that kind of. Intimidation threat, and I'm not saying that in with any bodily higher, but within the body of the interview because mighty O'Neill was just even smaller than gene. And I it's such a sweet spot to hit again that that I credit gene with which which is not acting like you're not intimidated. But and not being a, but also not losing your dignity and your respect and he found that spot. I mean, the road warriors pushed the limits in that regard. I mean, they were so physically intimidating, and when I think of you conducting interviews I mean, the road words, come to mind, first and foremost, how did what Jean taught you in observing gene help you with some of your some of the bigger names that you interview during your time in the Awa and the roadways on that list. And who else is? I'll be honest. I had been there a very short time and the road warriors. I don't know if they were in Japan. But when I first started they weren't around. So the the first interview I did with the road warriors. I was intimidated as hell I'm sorry. They were scary got and and more. So because I didn't know them. And you know, as as we got to know each other, and develop, you know, great friendships with, you know, Mike, and Joe and Paul it was different. But that's for the there was no tip that I interview if I looked intimidated and a little scared. It was because I was Yeah. I mean, that's that's the honest truth and later on. I mean, we we had some some great interviews together. But. The that's the only. Wrestlers or talent that I can point to where I was at the very beginning interviewing them intimidated because of their size and characters and the only other one that that comes to mind was I been in towards the end I loved interviewing the road warrior, the only person I hated to have to interview with STAN Hansen and not because of anything else. But when he would tore around that cowbell, I can't tell you how many times I caught it in the shins. Yeah. So the and I mean, not because he was trying to do it purposely. But that was every time it was like, oh, yeah. I'd say gotta wrestle interview standing. Oh, no. And he's got to the point. I was thinking I should really pick up some just cheap hockey shin guards. Put them on. And of course, it's excuse which he would make with a wry smile was while I I'm terribly nearsighted. I can't see we're not doing. So it's now now with your fault because I can't see and I love stand up hung out with them extents on watering. Watering forever. But everyone said I mean, he was the the the nicest. Yes guy, but boy that cowbell was. It was like oh God. That's dan. Yes. Yes. All right. So the news breaks within the Awa that genus, given his notice you mentioned that earlier, but. I mean, I know you talked about your feelings on that. What's the what's the mood and the company among the restaurants? Like, I I know a lot was going on at that at that time. And I I don't have memories of my head what where gene fell and the order of people Vince picked off, but it had it had to be a morale blow and in a kind of shake things up a little bit. Even though you have been easing into that role. It it was it was pretty sudden. And I think. People with in the Awa it was almost a foreshadowing it was. It's it's served notice in no uncertain terms that Vince was coming right for Verne. I in in terms of I think some of the talent secretly were happy because I think they thought you know, they could follow him too, much greener pastures. But I I think that was really, and again, I I can't tell you, you know, the order, but obviously, you know, after gene, Paul, Nick. I mean it. You could tell he was coming. And and it was going to be a to put it in. I guess business Hermes it was a hostile takeover. Yes. So it talk about the the tie between gene leaving. And then you going to the WWF and the circumstances of that. And I I to ask you to tell the mustache shaving story again. Well. Mine was a little different in that. Vince didn't hire me away. It was the final show. I did for the Awa was wrestle rock. And I just decided I was done, you know, for a a number of reasons. So I told Mike shields who was in, you know, the the producer that I was done. And that was it when I left the Metrodome that night. I I don't think I ever even went back to the office, and I had talked to someone it had been in the back of my mind before I got into television. I had been a district sales manager for Chrysler Corporation that dealer. Ships, but for the corporation, and I had made inroads about going back to work for Chrysler and Jack Lanza had already left. Jack was working with Vanson was an agent, and I think involved in a lot of other things and Jack, and I Jack also worked in the office in the Awa so Jack, and I had become very very close. And it was the Monday night after wrestle rock. Jack was on the road. But call me at home just to find out. You know, what happened what the finishes were? You know, how everything went, and we talked to not gonna tell them, you know, what had happened and he should want anything else. I said, well, I quit. And he started laughing in didn't believe me. And I said, no, I'm not. And he was like, you're kidding. I said, no. And he knew a lot of the back story. And he said, well, what are you going to do? And I said, well, I've already talked to him. You know, I think next week I'm gonna get together. And I think there's a good chance I'm gonna go back to work for Chrysler. And I said, well, what are you gonna talk to him next week? And he said, well, look hold. Let's talk when I get back to town. I'm coming in. I'll be back home tomorrow night, either Tuesday night or Wednesday night. I don't know if there was a day between and he called me. Night later late any goes, what are you doing for breakfast tomorrow? And I said nothing he said great. You know, you said we'll have breakfast. I'll I'll pick you up. And I I I can meet, you know, no, no, I'll pick you up. You said I'll pick you up six fifteen and we're a coat and tie. And I was like what are you not sixty? I'm not getting up ever anybody at six o'clock in the morning. And he said I'll be I'm picking up at six fifteen were a coat and tie because we're going to see Vince. And I started laughing. I said, Jack, I've seen you pull rib. You don't really think? I'm this dumb to any goes hang up you call north west airlines, ask them if there's not an already prepaid tickets for you on the seven twenty AM flight to the Guardia. And which I did there was a call Jack back, and he said, I told Vince you're available that you would quit and he wants to see you. So we did we flew out to LaGuardia. So a lot of people think that Vince that I was another one that Vince came in and just hired away it, and that's not the case, and we got out to York, and they had a limo for us to take us up to Stanford really got to the office. I kinda went through a bit of an interview process. I think if you will again, not knowing the order, but I met with like, Pat Patterson and Terry Garvin, George Scott, Ernie sculling after each one, they take me back out to the lobby then go in and see the next one was however the order it was like, I think everyone gave. Blessing and then went to the next higher up. And I think the last one I talked to who was Arne sculling they took me back out. And then a while I got called into Vinci's office met, Vince. And within the first, you know, two three minutes of of meeting him. You gotta said tell me about your mustache. And I was kinda like, you know, I well, it's bought my lip centered. I I don't know why you wanna know, you wanna know when I grew it and everything, and he came out and said, just so, you know, and I even think he said, despite gene, I hate facial hair. And and then he just stopped and looked at me. And I said, we'll I assume you're asking if everything else worked out if I would shave my moustache, and he said would you and I said, yeah, I would and that was it never said a word, and we talked for probably another hour. He just stopped looked at me for maybe thirty seconds openness top drawer, pulled out a razor and a can of shaving cream and said bathrooms right through that door. And I went in and shave my mustache and came back into his office. And he just looked at me. He said, you showed me something that's important. You showed me a backup? What you say? You'll start Saturday and shave your right off you should've seen his secretary. When I came out. Hour later, and suddenly, you know, the mustache I had gone. Oh, that's a Larry's. So so you get there and genius there. Talk about how gene seem the same or different. And how it was different with your dynamic at this point. And how often you guys cross pass? He he was from finding welcoming to me because it was understood. And I I think I'm gene had some things he needed to deal with where he was going to start taking time off, you know, and and just kinda do more some of the paper views and in the bigger shows. So the there was. I I'm certain that. I had was hired and would not have been hired gene hadn't been aware and was fine with it. So. Early on. I wouldn't I saw Jean it was always warm welcoming. But because they were so big and remember in those days, we often ran two and sometimes three Townsend night. So I would be working all the time. But in many instances, I might not even run into gene for like two weeks when when you did bump into, gene. I is it is it okay to say like white gene was cutting back with it was it was did he have other businesses going on? I was personal was burnt out. I think it was personal. And you know, might have been a little burn out. And that's just just speculation on my part because I know like I said one day, we did a hundred eleven interviews. That's chris. And I was doing those where Jeanne was also doing inter had cut back, but was still doing a number of interviews. And so I can only imagine what it was like that year and a half on his own. And you know with all the towns, you know, when we did interviews. It was always a different city. It was in in advance of a house show. So basically you were on a plane going somewhere every day. So, you know, I I it's it's I I think it was more either, you know, personal and or burnouts 'cause I mean that's forget anything else just flying in and you know, hotel airport airplane hotel arena hotel airpl- day after day. I mean that just wears on you on its own. And you know, again, I I knew my workload is when I got there and gene was still doing a fair amount. So I can only imagine what it must've been like a in the year and a half. He he and he was the only guy. Yeah. Oh, man. So how much interaction if any did you have with Jean going forward in the WWF given your time there, and then his his part time gate how much did you cross paths with him? Like, I said. Not that much who oftentimes it would just be. But yeah, it could sometimes be two or three weeks, and when we were in the same building or for a same show. There wasn't a lot of downtime or you could just kind of sit down, and and and Bs because when we would get to the arena, I would have this long list of things that that I had to get done and taped it as would he you know, in a different area with and there were separate production crews. So you know, I might be doing four or five six hours in one area, and he might be doing four or five in another area. So we will see each other. You know, greet each other talk for a little bit. Sometimes talk about what was going on in the Awa. But there wasn't a the there wasn't a lot of time for. Four or there wasn't a lot of interaction. But it wasn't any sort of, you know, personally, just you know. Okay. Hey, I we're gonna roll tame five minutes. Let's go. So we we could be under the same rough. But just working in in different areas of the building. And then it was like in anything else at the end of the night. Everybody wanted to either get somewhere and have a drink or get back to their room and get some sleep. When you look at work in W A W off television at that time. What was different about it for people who only saw him in the WWF and having, you know, didn't watch him in real time they'd up or on YouTube or WWE network. What what was remarkably if anything what was notably different about gene in the WWF that you picked up on because it was your vocation. Also. I think. The there was. Sometimes a little more. Over reaction to things, and I know it's a word used in. I'm trying to think of a different word, but. You know, I I just can't come up with it. But there was also a little bit more of a comedic tone to to some of the things it it's not the word. I I would like to use way. But I just can't come up with any anything that was analogous that. There would be times where you would see an interview, and you would kind of laugh, and I mean, not, you know, laugh with not app make that clear, but in the Awa that didn't occur with was sell tickets get the wrestler over and if it happened to be entertaining. Which of course, it always was and I would argue more. So that was a side effect of doing things the right way. And I think in. This applies just WWF in general and Vince McMahon's approach to to the pro wrestling product that a lot of people crave alternatives to which is Vince thinks the entertainment isn't the selling of fights and getting wrestlers over in sports like athlete. I wanna win a fight way. It's let's amplify the quirky aspects of their personality and have the interviewer Hamid up more. I think the best way, and I agree. The best way to praise it in the Awa. It was all about the house show. And the hour of all star. Wrestling was viewed its only purpose was to sell tickets for the house show. I mean back when gene was air. When I was there. You know, there wasn't the secondary merchandising either. It was strictly solely about selling tickets. And when I got to the WWF when gene ahead of me, even then Vince it was about not only selling tickets, but it was also about producing an entertaining television show. That was never I don't think. Process in the Awa. But in the WWF, it was about selling tickets building up the characters that getting to the point where even if you weren't a wrestling fan. You wanted to come see some of these larger than life personalities in in person. But it was also about creating an entertaining hour of television. Not unlike a sitcom or a drama, and I think that's where a lot of the overreaction, and and you know, comedic turn came into place because not only did Vince want the wrestling and the characters and everything else he was also focused on producing entertaining television. How about you to actually have you gene in subsequent years? Did you ever have lunch with him again or bump into him at a at a hall of fame or a ceremony or India show? Anything about town. I I would bump into him. You know, someone he was back in Minnesota sometime. And it was you know, it was always very, warm and great. I mean, I like Jean. I mean, it's I put on Facebook. I I was just so sad to learn. But I was aware he was battling health issues. I mean, he had had three kidney transplants, and I had heard at some appearance where he had been in a wheelchair. So I knew he was battling health issues. But. I never ever had any sort of interaction with Jeanne be, you know, Awa WWF post WWF. This was not, you know, warm and sincere. Gene was a great guy. Whether it was that, you know, some charity thing or event or just happenstance. You know, you'd always greet me. We talk you know, how you doing? What are you up to? So I you know, I didn't see him all that much. I didn't you know, hang out with him. It we never like said. Hey, let's go have lunch. But it was always great when we had a chance to whether it was some event that brought us together or just you know, happen stance. You know being in town. So I'll close with this. Is there a story about gene, probably from the Awa days that my questioning? Thing didn't bring out of you. That didn't get brought up that helps paint a picture of who he was for people who who wanna know more about them or just want to have a funny story to tell others. Nothing comes to mind, but. Gene was. In real life. Gene was probably closer to the gene people saw on TV. Then most people would have thought if that makes sense. Absolutely. Yeah. And the the the the one thing his passing brought to mind. In fact, I I found out I got a text from from someone I think, you know, ad Hellier, you know, from steel domain wrestling, you know, here here in the twin cities he had sent me a tax, and he said, you know, anything about gene Oakland passing away. And you know, I hadn't been on social media. But my phone went off with a tax. Then it was like, you know, I just sent them back. No, I I haven't heard anything as you know, for real. And then I went on social media and saw that the people posting it that it was true. And then I add night texted, you know, a couple of times, and, you know, I know Ed interactive with, gene. I mean, it, you know, I mean what an amazing job. Ed does. I mean, steel domain as an independent here in the twin cities now in its twentieth year. But the one thing, you know, when we were texting back, and I kind of realized that looking at a lot of the pictures that people have sent me over the years. And through social media that the majority of the wrestling pictures, I have in a lot of them. I'm the only one still alive. Wow. Yeah. I mean, if you think, you know, with gene and Kurt Roddy piper. The macho man Nick bond clinical Bobby Heenan crusher mad dog. I mean, literally, you know, Andrei, I look at the pictures bruiser Brody. I look at a lot of Jerry Blackwell a lot of the pictures. I have the, you know, buddy Roberts Terry Gordy hawk. It was like I need only one still left alive in these as I texted at L. Your was like, you know, maybe I'd better stop buying green bananas main and a lot of it. You know, just the the wear and tear the business took, but it was. I mean, it was. Gene was just still like hall back in the the glory days. I guess you can call it of where it was still, you know, wrestle more wrestling than than sports entertainment was. Was just. One of the the huge bigger than life characters. And you know, I I'm thinking back really from that time hawk is really the only larger than life one still with us. Well on that Wade, we're we're getting old. But on that somber note, Ken. I I saw Eddie Sharkey edit Hellier actually at the x t show a few weekends back. And and he was like, yeah. Yeah. Wait, I'm I'm going to go back in the locker room. But everybody, I know is dead. And I'll probably be next. It was good seeing you. Great, eddie. Thanks. But you know, what? I mean. You know, when you when you reminisce, and again, you know, from from Eddie's career when you reminisce about your time, you know, in the business in the heyday. A lot of your friends are just are no longer here. And you know, you and and the problem is everybody gets scattered. So you just don't get a chance to to see them that often. Yeah. So it's it's it's a yeah. I guess thinking back, and maybe they get a little more uplifting. Jeez. The one thing where I think about, gene. And in his time in my time. Everything we did we we didn't hers anything, it would be like, you know. I, you know, you got anything you wanna do know off. All you you. Just winged it and when you watch. So much a certainly, you know, WWF WWE now it it's so precise. Yeah. And scripted. That. Some of the the well, they don't really do interviews per se anymore. But even you know, what they do in the ring, you can tell it it. It's so scripted that a lot of the passion is out of it. Where talent is is trying so hard to remember what they're supposed to say. When they're supposed to say at how they're supposed to say it, and I think that's one of the reasons that you don't see the real wire jer than life characters are merging anymore. WWE? Certainly has you know, they're great stars. But do any of them really reach the the the status of a whole Cogan or a Roddy Roddy piper or macho man, Randy savage or George. The animal or even in a different way. But the the status of a of a Bobby Heenan or crusher or the Nick back winkle because they were allowed to create an embrace their and develop their own characters. And now, you know, I think it's more talent writers that are telling people this is I we wanna done I think pro wrestling at its best and worst is when it's more improv than scripted and WWE and Vincent man, specifically have chosen to not risk the bad. Even if it's a small slice of compared to two promising at it's best to have more control environment, and you know, the live TV aspect of it and worrying about sponsors network executives and all that they've made that calculated decision, but that lack of authenticity. Is a loss for a wrestling fan. And I think fans crave a sense that the rest, which are watching our. Yes, an amplified slice of who they really are. But nevertheless, part of who they really are. And and that that is what the the nineteen eighty s interview era was. Dates to. But gene, especially when I did interviews and when Jean did interviews back them away. The only thing we had. Prior to the taping. The interview we knew the date the town, and what the match was, you know, were I would open it up, you know, in in hit those things, and then we just wind it. I mean there, you know, there would always be an agent and sometimes it didn't go as well. And we might redo it. But it was never rehearsed. Yeah, it was always just off the top. Sometimes, you know. I would also do you have anything special? They might say, you know, what asked me about this or you know, on a hit this or that. But we just waiting it. Just how did you redo it very seldom like on? Fifty or one out of ten. For I would say, maybe overall. Maybe one out of you know, fifteen to two twenty and a lotta times. Gene or myself would make the call in. We would get on the interview. And I would think you know, we can do better or you know, I do a better job of bringing out the the intensity or it wasn't like the the agent. They're saying you gotta redo that a lot of times we would do one. And I would look at the talent. If I didn't feel I if I didn't think we sold a lot of tickets in that interview or or develop whatever we were trying to I would look at the talent say, you know, what you wanna do that one again. And then, you know, usually, they would say, yeah, you know, so as, you know, somewhere between one out of fifteen or twenty I mean, it was redoing an interview was far more the exception rather than the rule. Well, Kenya followed the script that I gave you for this podcast. Very well, it was only. It is only our third take the first two hours. I wasn't happy with. But I really appreciate you sticking with me here on the third hour and following the script nicely. I think it made for a better podcast. You are so bad. A great catching up with you. Thank you so much. I just thoroughly enjoyed this. And I'm sure the listeners will to getting a better idea of who was and in such what I wanted to emphasize into because there's just such as I said at the top so many people remember him from a time when I don't think he was at his peak. He was people have an affection for him in fond memories. And all that. But he was so it's like Bobby Heenan in data. But he was so good in the Awa and you as a person who had to step into his shoes where we're great at conveying. What may gene unique in the position that he was in? I like I say in terms of talent, you know, behind the mic. I don't think whatever direction wrestling and ends up going to me in terms of people. I worked with more as an announcer type not talking about wrestlers. I don't think there will ever be another gorilla monsoon, Bobby Heenan or gene, Oakland. I just don't think there ever will be. Yeah. Yeah. Well, put can I thank you so much. I expect we will talk again, and hopefully it's under positive circumstance. 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A Tribute To Gene

Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

1:34:03 hr | 1 year ago

A Tribute To Gene

"Wrestle. Well. That's not Avery. There's no box of gaming. Don't deal in rumor. There. I will there. I hear you. Hey, it's comments ops. And you're listening to something to wrestle with from Tokyo. I know that's not exactly what you expected to hear today. We're calling an audible we had originally planned to do Saturday nights main event watch a long from hulk HOGAN and King Kong Bundy all the way back in nineteen ninety eight and then we put the poll up, and you guys were so fired up about real rumble ninety nine I said, I will just do that one next week instead. And then something tragic happened we lost being gene, Oakland, and you guys wanted semaine content today, and that's what we're going to bring to you. But unfortunately, I'm in Tokyo, and Bruce is in France, would Texas and he's going to be in friends went again this weekend with Aaron Bischoff and half a dozen other. Or maybe two dozen other WWE hall of famers, you gotta check them out at the bay brook mall. Fiterman sports, it's Saturday January fifth so tomorrow, if you're listening to this on Friday, but tend to be AUSSIE Bushwacker nasty, boys. Demolition even our main man Eric Bischoff and rumored innuendo. Bruce is that Hoppy talk land might be there. This the first time hockey talk man, and Eric Bischoff have been in the same place. Michele been running down on eighty three weeks. We'll should be interesting to say, the least, and we are all going to be there. It's a small place. So that should be an awful lot of fun and awful explosive to say the least. Yeah, I'm looking forward to the report, some sure social media will blow up on that. And hopefully, you're doing what I'm doing. And you're watching wrestle kingdom today. I know that we've been promoting a here on fighting are in into Mike Weber at the Tokyo dome, and he is all excited about this show. And I'm sure the reviews that people are seeing right now tell the story, but our our story continues. You know, before we get into main, gene? Let's tell you what we're going to be coming soon. January nineteenth Colorado Springs. I can't believe we're finally making our way there, but I'm looking forward to that one. And then just a week later. We're going to be in San Diego at the world famous madhouse comedy club. That's an afternoon show. And then of course, on Royal rumble Sunday were infant stand up live looking forward to that one for a long time. We'll put the band back together and March we're probably going to drip out a couple of February shows, stay tuned there. But March I it'll be Bruce Richard Eric Bischoff and myself to that in Connecticut, we've never been in Connecticut before and this is at the Mohegan sun, if you can have fun there, you're dead. You can get tickets for all of the shows, Bruce, Richard dot com. And don't forget the solo tour for brisk, Richard Australia. Also on sale now he'll be there in late March the twenty second twenty third and twenty four which is Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane. So you gotta be on top of the law vents, man. They're sneaking up on its Bruce pitcher dot com, and Bruce one of the things I wanted to, you know, do on this show take maybe a little bit of a different approach because sometimes I like to cross examine the, and that's not really what today is gonna be about. Just want sell. -brate the life and times of Beijing, Oakland, you know, one of the things I was thinking about its high. We're going to cover the good the bad the ugly with being, gene. There is no bad. There is no, yeah. I can't think of any ugly, gene. Yeah. I can't think of any bad, you know, obviously had some some health issues. But he's one of those rare guys I never heard anybody say bad word about now. You're not going to either. And gene Oakland was he was a friend. He was colleague, and it was educational to get to be around, gene all those years. And I thoroughly enjoyed every single second of it. Well, let's start from the beginning. Gene was born Eugene Arthur Oakland on December nineteenth nineteen forty two in South Dakota of all places, and he grew up he described himself as a semi wrestling fan. He would watch it when it came on late night in the fifties. Of course, he's watching Awa up there. And then eventually when he goes to college he he goes to the university of Nebraska where the guy who would go on to be the baron baron. Von Raschke, any good early main, gene Raslan stories, you can remember is like back in that day. Everybody had a favorite or a moment or memory? I mean, even now I guess I can point to lob events it'd be like that's what I was wrestling fan. You know, I guess back in in the day during that time, especially in that area. It was all about Vern ganja was all about the A and growing up in that area. If you didn't know who earn ganja was he was more popular than the pope in many ways. So it was that was the big deal. Then in that was that was the guy. That's gene grew up on. He didn't just jump right in the wrestling business that which I think a lot of people assume that that was always the plan, but it really wasn't he graduates college and goes into radio, which makes sense. I mean, he had one hell of a voice and he's winding up at Kailai L Omaha. Nebraska, eventually moves to Minneapolis continues. In radio has about a nine year run there. He also starts eventually sailing for a television station in Minneapolis and television sales. That's that's not an easy sell as -burse. Now. It isn't. But at the same time when you you are salesman. Okay. So, you know. Gene, Oakland was the epitome of salesman. He was constantly selling which made him such great pitch, man. And that's why he was such a good interviewer because he knew what points to hit to get people interested in the product and make them get off their sofa come down and see the live events. Well, and so that's sort sorta how this all happened. You know, feel like we told a similar story on eighty three weeks there Michelle for he talked about how the announcer for the Awa was arrested for DUI couldn't make a shot. And then they asked the guy in and sales who had a good look come hold this microphone, and that's how air Bischoff got into wrestling and main gene, oddly enough has some similar story where the way is doing a live show every Saturday night and has gone. Mario Neil the announcer for the one day. He's ill. I can't come to work. So they asked Jean to come in and host the w that day, and gene has said he didn't really know much about wrestling as far as what to call the moon news, the holds and Vern told him to just sit down and call what you see and jeans. That's probably the best vice he'd ever got. The story of how this is really just a happy accident and maintain wads on the wrestling business as incredible as not an it's funny because that story is so similar a lot of the greats. When you go back, and you find out how they all again. I'll go back to Paul Bausch. When Paul Bosch for started his broadcasting career. He was listening to the commentators and the commentators were calling the wrong homes and Paul started to tell them what the correct holds were in the guy just handed him a microphone in this case. Gene was the voice. Didn't know what the hell he was gonna do. Because you you feel that. Okay. I need to know something about it in Vern gave him the best advice that he could give him just call. What you see call? What's in front of you and described the action, and you can either do it or you can't. One of the things I've found fascinating in my research. Is that gene admitted that one of the things he really struggled with was trying to predict what was going to happen. Any felt like that was part of his job was to sort of an -ticipant the next major move the next break in the action whatever, but he says that the real key to his success was to figure out how stop doing that. And instead just call something once a happened is that something that you guys talked about a lot. And and that's man WB. That's the key to every great play by play guy. Don't don't anticipate. And that's the problem with commentators in the wrestling business that no the finish. Or no the story line because they're trying to lead you if all you have to do is call what's in front of you and call what's on your monitor at the time. Then you're not gonna screw up. If it doesn't happen. You don't call it. But if you make something happen that isn't there? It comes across as untrue. And that's the best vice anybody can ever give you. No, not about it. What do you know of Verne's relationship with Jane? I mean, it does feel like, you know, we've heard various reports the years about how did they sort of bitter? When one of his guys that he really made a name moves on certainly that's going to be the way things wind up for Verne, and Jean do you think that they reconciled? How would you categorize the relationship will? They did reconcile over the years when Verne was inducted into the hall of fame and everything with the WWF at the time. I know that they had reconciled there, and they were friendly, but it's business and sometimes you have to make a business decision and move on with Verne gone. You're even with him or against him. And I don't know that he they certainly weren't friends at at the time, but they got over it, and you move on with your life in Vern from what I understand could be difficult to work with. But it was a perfectionist, and you can't argue with the success that he had in the heyday. Yeah. And even back, then Jane was a bit of an entrepreneur, you know, even when he was on the end of UA wasn't his only gig. He was also doing an ad agency. And continuing salesmanship that salesmanship we know was going to serve him. Well as wrestling fans because we're all right here with the hotline flex he really made famous and one of the things that before I even think about the hotline plug always think about as majoring in the back. I'm doing the stand-up interviews, and that's where he got the nickname main, gene when he was doing that in the Awa with Jesse Ventura and Jesse is explaining gene he was up on partying with Tom petty and Heartbreakers and then ask Gina pain who Tom petty was and allegedly Jane said something like he's famous race car driver. Right. Isn't piecing with Richard petty? And immediately Jesse says that was mean Jean, and what do you know, manging stuck? And I don't know that. Gene, really loved the name. But it certainly served its purpose mean decide Mangena people know who that is they they certainly do and it worked really well for gene all those years. So I think the Jesse really did him a favor by giving him that moniker mean Jean and overall when you look at the person that probably got that over the credit has to go to haul Cogan because hulk is the one that that made it universal in me, gene. Let me tell you something brother. And when people do interviews, and they start to go into whatever impersonation they wanna do womb to you. Something mean Jean? It's so easy. It rolls off the tongue and it made a hell of a career for gene, Oakland. It's crazy when you think about the amount of talent that role through the W A because you know, I'm sitting here thinking he worked with he being manging pronounced Powell he worked with HOGAN. And the way he works with Bobby Heenan in the w he worked with Jesse Ventura, the w I didn't think about all the other talent, you know, that I mean RIC flair learned how to wrestle in the W A from Verne. They learned also taught Ricky steamboat there's so many just phenomenal all-time world class talents who came through the w that eventually really made their lot in life somewhere else. But the two hours associate with Jane, I don't know why the sense is whole Kokin and Bobby Heenan both of them may in the Awa. How would you categorize the Bobby then manging relationship? Well, the first of all they were business that they? Worked together, and they were friends outside outside of wrestling going all the way back to Minneapolis, Bobby, gene, we're very close friends. And then in later years, they both lived outside of Tampa, Florida, and they were very close, their wives were closer families were close, and it was a friendship just garnered over many years being in the same business and being able to share the same ups and downs of the wrestling business. It's so crazy anything about to buy this. How long has gone careers were. And you think about Awa there at the same time WB after their same time w there at the same time all the four years of their career aren't together. Then not insane. Yeah. It really is. It's crazy especially in the wrestling business that you're able to have that that long of run at the same people. So let's get to you know, while we all probably are listening to this and remember maintain in jumps to the WB app. And gene said that until about mid eighty three when Vince McMahon I came to him told him about this vision that he had talked Jean about how cable TV was becoming a thing. And how they could go national Jean said that men's never mentioned anything about being global as the WWF. What later go onto the obviously, I mean, they make more money internationally than domestically these days. I'm sure, but one of the things that I'm always found fascinating as sort of this old school mentality that existed back, then of course, now with the benefit of hindsight, we not how up, but gene dismissed this idea. When Vince I lays out the vision because he doesn't understand how this could possibly work logistically, and because he had a full-time gig doing the ad ANC. He wasn't willing to go away is other biz. Business. And I wanted to try to make a run at this opportunity with them. So it's cut the deal that allows Jean to work three days every three weeks and any got some urging from his whole France, Pat, Patterson and hall, HOGAN and eventually made the jump, but obviously money played a major role in decision as well. So not only could Vince offering more money, but that's the the best schedule ever in the history of wrestling as not three days every three weeks with the idea behind. It was a recorded television every three day. I mean every three weeks so during the time that would be the time that gene would cut all of the individual interviews with the talent for the individual markets for the next three weeks. Now, it was a grueling three days during that time that they eventually would have to take on the road and expand the number of days because the number of live events expanded. So is jeans role. Expanded in the events expanded the demand also came on the had to work a whole hell of a lot more, but working three days every three weeks is a hell of a hell of a proposition. No doubt about it. And he jumps at the chance. And he accepts that offer in December of nineteen eighty three. And here's sort of what I was learning to earlier the big sitdown comes or gene has to let the gun is now that he's leaving. And he's not telling burn Greg's, there's well and Greg's pretty fired up about it and says hacking leave us now, we need you. We've taking care of you for thirteen years and allegedly Jane replies. I've taken care of you. And this guy comes to me with an offer that substantially better, and I don't hire hearing account or offers here and allegedly intentions around high. And Greg said something like, well, if it's so damn good job. So gene did. And that was it. He was out this conversation happened a lot in the end of the era when Vince was taken over to not. Yawn. That's did. I know that a lot of guys didn't want. It didn't wanna give earn their notice because it didn't feel he deserved. And they felt that Vernon kind of taking advantage over the years and he liked Bill. Watts. A lot of times they've worked the most. Well, liked guys to work for regardless. It was it was standard, and you give your notice, and you work out your notice on the other side. I think a lot of talent blame Vince McMahon saying that Vince paid him extra vents told him not to fulfill their dates, but in all my years. No in Vince McMahon. I've never heard him ever say to anybody don't fulfill your dates and don't honor your obligations to the to the other end because he would expect it from them on the other side. So I think that a lot of guys just use that as an excuse to jump ship and get out of there of gene was a businessman in, gene. Did it the right way by going to sitting down with Verne saying, hey, I'm gonna leave? Here's my notice. Let's talk about the next time. We hear about Ryan, gene. And invents. It's nineteen eighty four. And obviously the WB app is blowing up now they're on track to make wrestlemainia phenomenon. Rockin wrestling and MTV. I mean, it's really really hidden. The toys are common. It's been the vision is becoming reality. And during a visit to Minneapolis Vince, McMahon visits manging than agency and using the phone on jeans desk makes an offer to Verne to buy out the allegedly for ten million dollars, which would be five hundred thousand dollars a year for five years to both Vern and Greg which is not I mean, which means he's not gonna front load all the money. But he's offering a chance to collaborate not by you out necessary. We're going to work together. And I'll give you some towns Theron, and I'll give you some exposure on national TV, but you can work with me rather than against me and allegedly, gene. Sees learn blow up on the phone to the point of has to pull the receiver white from his head, and he can hear Vern yelling through the headsets things like blow it out your ass. And it'll be a cold day in hell before ever do anything like that. And if you're only your father knew what you were doing right now, I mean, lots of lots of resentment contempt and people are not happy about the move the events as doing. Here's my question, though. When I read this I wondered why would he do that in front of Jean give an answer for that events better than anybody? Why would you make an offer like that in front of Jane to sort a undercut any sort of hurt feelings or where two motions or whatever? The gene might have about leaving thirteen year employer or. Wow. Mccollum front of Jane? Well, first of all you have a witness there. So you have a witness to him making an offer to buy out in an offer to work with them and to collaborate so anything that burns says or anybody else wants to come back and say that then stood this Vince did that it was malicious on his part. He's got a witness right there that can say, no, you know, what he called the guy he made an offer to them to work together and try and work this thing out. So that's why he's got someone to tell that story. When he finally comes into the starts as a commentator. I doing color commentary, and it should placing Pat Patterson doesn't last very long, he realizes shortcomings. And then he starts doing the interviews. And before we get into, you know, the rest of the run there do wanna talk about Pat Patterson as a color commentator feels like that isn't a book about ideas, especially if it's an English. Well, no, it was good. God he was better than Bruno. And Brunel only set a couple of words, but it was a way it was actually colorful. And I think that it was Vince is way of entertaining themselves sometimes to try and get Pat to pronounce certain things like Rio de Janeiro that patches shorten to buy the real. So it was entertaining. At least for vets. So fascinating to me. This is a guy who was all about business. But every now and again, it's cool with silly decision. Just to have fun math Pat Patterson who people they were used to him. And they used to talk any did give good insight for us listening to Pat we liked to make fun of it. But for wrestling fan than is sitting there listening to the first intercontinental champion, give his views. He's not doing color commentary like what you hear. Now, he's doing an analyst Vincent throwing things to him every once in a while, and it's a different voice. But Pat had credibility in that role. One of the things everybody's been talking about is the August twenty six and eighty four in in Minneapolis, by the way, main Jean makers in ring debut first match. He's teaming poll Cogan thank on, Mr. Fuji, and George the animal Steele. But what's memorable about this is that necessarily the mass but the series of in yet that were doing before the match was the same way or we see gene sitting in his dining tables. Buy a cigar. Hugging comes down and gets on about smoking. And then he takes the kitchen and drinks, a bunch of raw eggs cracks them open and glass chugs, without of course, maintain wants nothing to do with that he see people running through a park, and he say at the GM just a series of classic minuets that really are almost like almost like a precursor for the way, you guys ease vignettes to introduce characters at when I go back to watch this. I think this was phase one. One before we had, you know, the Mr. perfect vignette. So the million dollar man vignettes. This was you know, wrestling being presented in a different way. But in a way that made it much bigger fair to say, it was also taking a a local story line, which was hulk and Georgie animal steel, including gene in in Minneapolis. But being able to do all of those vignettes on a national basis on all American wrestling and TNT that got that story out in may, gene, a larger than life character as well. But if you whatever you do you go back, and you wanna look at anything classic mean, gene, Oakland or classic early WWF. Go back and watch these vignettes. There's some of the most entertaining things that you will do all week long guaranteed. It looks like the scenes like in the in the kitchen and at the kitchen table were shot in a trailer, quite frankly. And they probably were no one else swagger back then. But it was entered highly entertaining that holds up to this day. It's just some really entertaining fun stuff. Several little bit about the. The idea of him being so closely associated with Paul Cogan is it is it mostly because of the series of Indiana St. think, no, I think that it's because you know, gene was the guy standing next to hall Cogan for all those years, gene helped hulk HOGAN as much as hall to help, gene. He was the pitch man. He was the guy that was presenting, you know, hulk HOGAN and hulkamania from the W A, and then seemingly came over with Holcombe to the WWF. So it was a package in lot of respects. They're just very identifiable with each other. Of course after the passing. Everybody shared a lot of their memories on social media hulk HOGAN wrote the best partner ever had. We never rehearsed anything scripted from a writer. Jane would just ask me. Hey, big, man. What do you want to do? And I would always answer just folly brother and it worked from nineteen eighty to two thousand seventeen are Pm brother age, it is sort of weird that main gene because I think people really come down to of this like either they remember manging from the WB F Opole Cogan. Are they remember main Jane from RIC flair and the wet he would yell main bug odd, gene? And all that. How many guys had a career? We're really there's you know, we've talked about this a lot with HOGAN the most over baby face. And then later the most over he'll just drew major money on both sides. But gene sorted that not necessarily face. He'll but in two territories where nobody else really did that to that degree didn't they I throw Bobby Heenan in there, even through savage in there. But there were there were a few guys. But not to the extent, I think Jean Oakland was able to define that role in every company that he ever was in from Awa to WWF to WCW, gene. Pain was the mold man gene, was would everybody is fired to be. No, you're exactly right. And you know, I I would challenge you on macho man, I think once had a much more significant Ryan in the negative WCW. And I think you can even say that for Bobby Heenan. I think Bobby Heenan in the WB WF was on top of his game by the time of your old around and just wasn't the same. And maybe some of that is because we saw so much of them and jeans appearances were more sporadic, and maybe less as more. I don't know. But it's just fascinating to me because depending on the age of my friend. I know which manging, you know, if your mind she remembered the HOGAN stuff, but if you're ten years younger, it's all about the WCW years. Let's talk a little bit about what's going on in the WB f-. He's got lots of. Famous interactions because this is during the rock and wrestling era. So you've got shows where Mr. tease around us. Well, what did what did gene thank of the influence of the mainstream professional wrestling feels like something he would have been a proponent for. He joined it. I know I think that the most infamous was the Billy Martin vignettes that they shot out in San Diego where Jean shows up to work with Billy Martin and Billy is sitting at the bar, absolutely trashed and jeans trying to get something out of him. But gene, relish those moments, gene, relish, taking the impossible and making something out of it. But that was probably his favourite I walk in and this guy sitting at the bar Hebert three sheets to the wind. I'm like what the hell am I supposed to do in this guy that's turning on their camera on let's go. And that was gene. It was. Let's get it on. Let's go although it for him. So I think that gene kinda relish working with those those folks, and he was again that conduit to the other side. I like the said, let's get it on because that was the attitude that I think he took wrestlemainia I didn't even know this all started doing some research this true. Hey, sang the national anthem wrestlemania one personal. It's unbelievable to me, you know, the rumor and innuendo was that the head of major name lined up and winds up whoever the person is under no showing and they're gonna pensions. Although it any did that that's a little footnote in history that you know, I didn't know he's told us before Howard Finkel kind of put the name wrestlemania. But the idea that manging sang the national anthem at the first one somehow wasn't even bigger mind blower to make. I just never would've managed, gene Kerner. Oh, yeah. Definitely, man. Gene, loved to sing was gene was one of those guys at a party when they would play piano. The gene would be right next to the piano player. Singing songs absolute classic, and he did it inches Christmas parties when the guy would sit down at the piano, gene would be at the other end singing songs you'd be in a bar somewhere. They would have a piano and somebody would start to play, gene. It was absolutely great multi-talented. Well, let's let's skip forward. Here. We spent a lot of time talking about what happened before you knew gene before you had mentioned. What was your impression of gene before you met him? I talked about this before you came to work for the company after wrestlemania three and nine hundred eighty seven, but you've been seeing some of these vignettes doing with Holker we're gonna new seen obviously his work in Awa and how to be f- in your like way back machine. What was the rap on gene and Texas on the Paul boss territory? And how was he regarded and fault of when you actually make the trip up there? Well, I think Paul Bosch kinda looked at him. And it was it was funny because Paul in with the note pad and write down some of the attitudes that gene would use to describe the action and describe different things. I'll ridiculous is this. So I looked gene as an unbelievable pitch, man. And I did those stand up interviews in the mid south Sogenal somebody that I looked to to try and steal from because he was regarded as the best. He he was just he was the best. So I tried to steal things from him little nuances that he did in. That's who you stole from. So he I respected him. I didn't know him. I knew the worked for that. I didn't know him from Adam. And I was kind of I was excited that was one of the people when you go up there that you wanna meet and get to know. Well, he met a workhorse. I think most people remember back in the day one of the things that did is they cut I think people referred to as localized promos. Why would this Friday night at the garden staying you're going down, whatever. And then they run that. And all the different local markets. You know, whenever they have syndicated shows air allegedly one of the first places they really settle in on doing these big loops like this as in San Diego. And we've actually got a listener the show here who was involved with bicycling times back and forth. Shoot a lot of them out there. They have spot they're comfortable in new Honda who to call if tapes around probable he said once maintain said once he did a hundred and forty one locals promos the same day. It was one of the San Diego marathon shooting sessions you figure hundred forty one promos roughly three minutes each. You're talking about over seven hours worse before breaks before retakes before, you know, setting up the the bit or planning or lunch or if seven hours. No. So you make it sound like like, we're doing one of our shows. No, it's it was Howard Finkel with the book and sheets of paper with the localize interviews, and it was gene and a room full of talent. And Howard would say all right now, we're doing which talk Kansas on Monday, April fifth show. Here's the arena here. So you're wrestling with here's the car. They would tape the card up on the bottom of the camera and Howard would say, okay. Look around the room and go. All right. We're gonna do Ricky steamboat your wrestling. Jake, the snake Roberts and gene would look at the car to go. All right. What utah? We're coming to you this running. I you're not gonna wanna miss this. This one the hawks there's going to be an town and he's going to be taking King Kong Bundy. And then from there, demolition Bauma and Ricky steamboat come on. Join me, my friend. You're going to be taking on the snake Jake Roberts. Ricky would talk for however long he would talk gene would fill the rest of that. And they would go on to the next one in. That's how those damn things were done at that time. There was no writing. There was no there was no scripts. It was Howard sitting there with his book and the list of towns with the syndicated markets saying, okay, this television shows show airs on Saturday night. I mean on Saturday morning the show was going to be on Saturday night. So this one you make reference to tonight or the week before you're making reference to next week next Saturday right here. And it was just told to him and he would digest it and knock it out. That's how they did it and you would do that. You would start about eight o'clock in the morning, and you would go until about ten o'clock at night one right after the other after the other after the other after the other. Talk about the television show all American wrestling. He was the host of that show and the head a few different little skits on the show sometimes had interact with staff members and get their opinions on what's going on every half and other times he'd be on the phone at least pretending to be on the phone to the famous celebrity that occasionally someone would stop by. You got any stories about all American wrestling. And some of these different shows all American wrestling is what vents started off with where he all the tapes. And we're he really got to know all of the other talent in the different territories around the country because they would send their tapes and they wanted their guys to be on all American wrestling. So they would play tapes from junkyard dog and from hulk HOGAN and from Jimmy snuck in all these guys from all over different parts, and then Vince would reach out and bring these guys in but. But later on and as gene would always say when the ratings starting to tank, that's when Vince hadn't it off. And all American wrestling, kind of reached a plateau in Vince handed off to gene, gene, rela said idea, we would take all American wrestling in the at one four that we did it in Baltimore to studio there. But it was gene standing in a room, and we would do three weeks at a time. He's standing in room do ins and outs matches. And he would just add limit. Here's what we're going to gene he would ad lib. But he wanted to have some creative freedom, and he invents agreed to let Jean have one minute. Sixty seconds per show. Gene, do whatever you want and Jean liked to do these little skits on the phone where he would be calling someone, and you would only hear one side of the conversation. Well, Bert how you doing there. Gene. Oakland. Yeah. Tell naughty. I said Hello. And he would have these conversations and whatever was topical in the news at the time. So that was jeans one minute. We let him kind of do whatever he wanted after a while I had stopped being hands on producing that show and let another producer takeover that show. And I get a phone. Call one day from vents. We had eight hours of television every single week brand new programming every week, and I didn't watch every every single addition of every show that that came out. But on one of the versions of all American wrestling. He apparently did one where he was like. Yeah. How you doing there? George house, Barbara. All right. Yes. Yes. Yes. The Bush and something like that. I don't know exactly what it was. But it was Barbara and Bush in the same bit and the network went fucking ballistic absolutely ballistic that gene, gene, Oakland was allegedly talking about Barbara's bushes. Bush is what they said and so on so forth. And it was gene being gene just doing his double entendre stuff that. Got a little trouble with. That is hilarious of all things. I thought you'd be talking about today. Barbara Bush Bush as not on the list, let's talk a little bit about. And this is something we and asked about a lot the wrestling album. Rick derringer, our did a song rock and roll hoochie coup. And of course, I think most people dare injures most famous piece of wrestling business is whole insurance thing real American, but to fruity on the wrestling album as well jeans bar this, you weren't there for it. But you've probably got some fun stories that have what trick trickle down the line over the years right on the wrestling album, gene did to fruity on piledriver, which was the second album is gene actually did rock and roll Chiku. And Joe lots my friend. Joel watts who came up to WWF with me produced the video for that. And that's when actually got to meet and work with Rick derringer, which was one of the coolest things ever for a twenty four year old kid be sitting there with Rick derringer and Rick derringer playing guitar in slow motion just the coolest shit, but that's being around gene, Oakland and him doing that was just crazy because he's telling derringer what to do on different things. And it was just classic because here's again, Rick derringer, a rock and roll God. I don't care who you are. You debate me all you want. But he was he is a rock and roll God. And it was really nice to see Oakland collaborating with derringer derringer actually having the time of day to speak to me that was my memory of the piledriver wrestling album, which gene Oakland. Let's talk about the nineteen eighty-seven slamming awards you were there December six eight Caesar's palace in Las Vegas. Palaces a cool wrestling place. I didn't really think about that. But you guys that wrestlemania? They are those champions there and evenly slimy. Ords Palestinian, gene. And Jesse Ventura are the host for this. And gene is also the co winner of the best head award, which Sese flair would certainly take issue with that title was shared with bam. Bam. Bigelow. What do you remember about the sleigh me awards for nineteen eighty seven a week's worth of rehearsals, one week being in Caesars in Atlantic City and having to go through every pain staking second of that show every single day the choreography with the dancers, and the guys who had never danced before end or really saying live before they did the the album, you know, in a studio and shit. So they never actually sang these things before and Vince wanted to do it all live and. Doing all real no lip synching and all that other good shit. In Jane, Jesse were holding it all together. And there was a bit that I was responsible for which was the fight with access Jim Duggan and Harley race. During the the night. There was a gimmick screen that went down on the stage that Harley and Doug and were supposed to go through. But they were only supposed to go through it. The second on the second live show the first live show. They were supposed to go around it and the second live show, we were actually going to break through it. Well, we had hurston million times. And we were doing the first show in Harley in Doug in her back there the waiting on the Q, and I give them the Q and before I know it they went right through the middle of the screen, and we only had one. Thank God for gene, Oakland because Oakland, reacted Oakland. He he didn't live. He did it off the cuff Jesse. If you go back and watch Jesse didn't know what the hell the do because he was waiting for him to come around the corner and Oakland was savior and Jean being on the spot. Like that was you put him out there live, and I never really had to worry about gene VN out there live because he would be able to cover whatever was thrown at him and everybody came back yelling and screaming. But at the end of the day. Yes, it was a fuck up. They just misunderstood. They thought they were only gone through wants, which they were just a second show and it all worked out for the better. Because. Has changed format of the vent centers sometime in nineteen eighty eight and Jean is the host of that talk about the change that you did here in how gene was feeling with this new role for years what the what had been was traditional interview segments where gene stood there with the talent interview them for every single market. It was time consuming. It was laborious and it had become a in some ways a play thing for Howard Finkel. We're Howard would have guys do interviews that would never air. And when we started looking at the stockpile of everything that we had just came up with a better way to do it. And I stole the idea from mid south because that's how we had done them in mid south, except we did them with actual commentators. We would throw back and forth, and you do generic interview with rapper outs. So what it became was, gene. Being in a. Studio, gene, would do the market specific stuff. Hey, a Lanta. We're going to be there. This Tuesday night at the Omni arena. Tickets are available here. Gene, would do those wrap arounds and then he would throw to talent. And they would do the same interview in that interview would air in every market that that match was pertinent. It wouldn't be specific to Atlanta. But gene stuff would. So it required gene coming to the studio and knocking all of that stuff out. And it was a lot. To Jean felt like a lot more work because he had to come to Stanford in reality. It was a lot less work for gene talent editors everybody. But it was just new and it was and it was different. And then vents counter was looking at it like God damn it. If he lived here would be a problem and that scare gene to death. He did not wanna live in Sanford. Hey did. Good point. Okay. Let's talk about wrestlemainia four this your first wrestlemania. It's a big moment. It's a big time preview and we've done full show on it in the archives. But I feel like you have to have something you can share with us. Jane from that show Jesus. My first my first wrestlemainia, man. And I'm the producer of the show. I'm twenty five years old kid. I'd never produced. The Russell may know what the hell I was doing invents. Told me make sure you have production meetings with all of the commentators. And and make sure that you get with everybody individually and have a production meeting with them and go over everything, Mike. Okay. Yes, sir. Got it. So I'd had. One with gorilla monsoon and those guys which took about an hour and a half or so and my next one was gene Oakland's gene shows up. Jane comes to the room, and he walks in and Rosie. What have we got today? I said, well, let's go show goes do we really need to go over the show. I said, well, yeah, you need to know what you're doing. 'cause I'm gonna be interviewing guys, right? Well, yes, sir. And he's like got it. All right. See their kid and walked out of there. That was my production meeting with Jean ochre Lynn, and he was gone before. I realized what the fuck just happened and everything worked out perfectly. He did interviews. Let's talk about Sean Mooney. Sean Mooney is another guy that I really think about this era. The I mean to me it's maintain Sean Mooney from the announcer side. Sean tweeted out sad day in the world of entertainment, and for the fans of the great at the gene Oakland, as I've long said there was gene Oakland, and then there was the rest of us rest. Well, my friend has tagged goat. I mean, everybody's saying that everybody not just fans people who were in the business people who are, you know, his coworkers in that business. They all regard him as being the goat. What how did gene handle some of the younger talent? Because jeans. Obviously, the elder statesman of the group when a young guy like Sean Mooney comes in power. Gene handle the the young upstarts who were coming in with class in. Gene was the first one to lend a hand he wasn't. He wasn't fearful of his job. He wasn't one to a lot of the old timers when new talent come in. They get very fearful and protective of their spot. Jane looked at Sean Mooney is an opportunity more free time for gene and more time for gene to do other things. So he was there to help Sean every way that he possibly could. And it was from everything that I could tell outside looking in was a great relationship, and I relied on gene to do that I relied on gene to to help the younger talent get these guys through some of the ship. It and he never failed. Let me ask you this. You know, these days a lot of guys travel together. So this guy rows with that guy that girl rods that girl was gene Rodman was when when you guys were making town the traveling companion. I think for for the most of the time when when he did travel a somebody would probably be Bobby Heenan or. Lot of times he travel by himself. But he always would hang out with the production guys Jean love to hang out with the crew. He was just he was one of the boys. But he he was one of the crew to and he he loved everybody, you know, behind the cameras. So that was that was jeans click. A little bit about one of the more famous main gene moments summer, slam nineteen eighty nine you know, where I'm going with us. I'll take it from here. Hub. Boy, will we did pre tapes. And during one of the earlier pre tapes that I think Bobby Heenan and Rick rude in the middle of the pre-tape, the the summer slam sign had been set up, and it was like masking tape or something that the was holding the sign of the wall in the middle of the interview the the damn sign fell. Gene, just started on. I was like well fuck it. And we cut tape, and obviously we did another one get signed back put up and did another one. Well, we're live and in the middle of live show, the commentators throwback, Tony shivani and Jesse Ventura two things happen that night that that really were the impetus of what I would use for announcer tryouts for many years after that in the opening shot. When kirwin was scanning the crowd doing the ballyhoo across the crowd. A woman jumps in front of the crane and takes her top off and it made air in it made air on the live show Jesse. And Tony completely froze. Did not know what to say. Then they and they said nothing which was even worse then from there on this same thing happened. And and we're Vince screaming, Adam, you know, got cover covered SEIs something and Jesse kind of fill farted around and jumped on Oakland a little. A bit. But it was it was demonstration of for me than it used many years later for announcers always to have something react, even if it's wrong react because it's live, and we're looking for you to pull all this shit together. And then we played the right tape. But yeah, that was a complete one genes fuck up. It was a truck fuck out. Still hilarious though. One of the things that's been floated around is a screen. Grab of when you guys were apparently just messing around with main, gene? And put something up there on the the lower third where Senator say major line that said main quote, unquote, tiny, dick, Jane, Oakland. Is that a man who would have been having fun in the truck when I put tiny on the screen did that air? Didn't air, but it was released a series of bloopers few years ago, and you know, that same blue Correal had manging cracking everybody up because allegedly these interviews while the, you know, we're we're long and people were probably tired through the end of gene, Kip, everybody laughing because he was trying to crack you up and some of that stuff. He would go really really blue with. So it never made the air. Remember any famous gene stand up moments like that where he thought this is great ship, but we can never show it most most every. Taping session that we had to at all American. They they became absolutely insane. And I remember one year for jeans birthday. We actually got him a strip Graham to come to the studio, and they did a strip tease for him. And and Jean thought it was something else. It's like, oh, you got me a girl. Thank you very much. It's like, no, gene. You can't keep her. She's just have to sit there. She's going to strip over here. And I remember afterwards because he sat in the chair and she stripped for him probably about three or four feet away. And she's like came over, you know, put her clothes back on and gave me look kiss on the head. And he looks at all like, that's it. That's it. That's all. I get. And it was just. Yeah. Typical gene. We. Yeah. Most of his stuff was pretty blue. But it was a lot of fun. And when you're working all those crazy hours. He think about it, man. You've got twenty different script writers writing scripts for everything that everybody says on the air. Now, gene did that shit off the top of his head where we would sit and look at a show, and I would go okay here. We're throwing this got it. And he would just do it and make it entertaining. So it wasn't anything as a producer that. I did get it out of gene had a natural talent that I could depend on that would make shin entertaining. And that was gene Oakland. Outstanding. On those interesting interviews are floating around right now there's been some of Ken patera in some with the lady wrestler in a smaller there. But no some fun stuff out there. Let's talk a little bit about survivor series nineteen ninety we've covered this in the archives. But it's another famous maintain moment where I feel bad for a little bit. And you guys having debut the fuck in goblet Guber and Jane dances him in the ring. What was? Was take away from the fucking gobbly gingko. Jeez. Psycho was everybody else's takeaway chain had a front row seat for it? What the fuck is this? And when we rehearsed the damn thing, we didn't have I don't think that we had the head on the gobbly Gook or so you really couldn't understand him in. We kept doing it for him. So it was. You know, Hector say. But we were gobbly cooker, dammit. And it came across even worse live, gene had fun with it. And he went out and Vince wanted him to do somersaults, and he's like just can't do that vents. I can't physically do it. If you want me to take a bumper or do somersault, I'll never get up, and I think he did one or two, but it was absolutely horrifying. And gene embodied that moment so much with his reaction to it. Because it was a what the fuck my looking at. And you felt it all over him. So what are the things I wanted to talk to you about as the open aware? You're never short on. Opinions there genus said the ultimate warrior was the most impossible for him to work with on interviews. And you just sorta describing how men breeze for everybody. And if I could do it he would do it for them. But when it came to the ultimate warrior like we've heard this story before any interesting. Mangino Maurier stories. You can share no genius didn't wanna work with him. Because there was nothing for gene to do. And as soon as Jean would start to do his job whether it was selling the event or selling the local venue, whatever wire will come in. In gene would hold try to hold the microphone, and he would walk around behind him. And gene, we'll try and wrap it up voyeur just keep going Jean finest. What the fuck am I doing here? Just let him let him do shit. It's ridiculous for me to to stand here and do this. So there was a frustration there. But that's the only guy, you know, gene, looked at it as a challenge on some people. Try get interviews out of him and put words in their mouth and making good and warriors just was impossible along. Give me an example of a guy like that. A guy like nail sometimes guy like Greg Valentine could be challenging Ricky steamboat was not greatest promo in the world. So right, Dino, Bravo, Frenchy Martin some of those guys, you know, it was painful to try get interviews out of them. But you had you had to get something with them. Gene. Would put the words in their mouth and make it entertaining. Mr fuji. Not always that easy voice on. You know, we've heard through the years especially about him day that when near champ minutes wants to talk to you all the time. You know, you go from you know, Vince is they are. But you don't have a ton of interaction with maybe TV here there. Whatever to win. You're the champ. You have a lot more communication with vents. And I'm sure Vince feels that way because our does that because this is really sort of the face of the company. What do you think about amount of TV time and the relationship with viewer? Mangino Cleveland was also sort of faced with the company was his relationship like with vents once they really got up and going. Great. I mean, really and truly great Vince trust, gene. So just as is stated before you you could give Jean something and feel confident that he was going to deliver. So that that relationship was one of trust. And they liked each other. They had a good time. Together, they go out and party together. It was a mutual respect and a genuine genuinely liked each other. So that helped but most importantly, I think that there was respect and trust on both sides that Vince, trusted, gene, trusted, his judgment that whatever he was going to do was going to be the right thing. Well in the right thing is to take care of your money and being good steward with your money. And Brits, you've got a tip on how some of our listeners can do that. Right. Because Robin Hood, it's an investing app and let you buy sell stocks ETF S's options cryptos all commission free. So even if you're a stock market newcomer, you can invest for the first time with true confidence. Man, it is so easy when you go to their site. It's easy to navigate. It's easy to get stocks. I said, even if it is your first time now other brokerages charge up to ten dollars for every every single trade. 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He was the voice behind so many WBZ most iconic and entertaining moments and the WB family will miss him immensely, and I think one of those times moments that everybody remembers and you weren't there. Royal rumble nineteen hundred two RIC flair cutting the hell room with a tear in my eye. It's a big moment. The end of world champion finally WBF champion people waiting for this for a long time. And what will happen if RIC flair win? So that everybody F while he's here, and for the first time ever, the winner of the Royal rumble becomes champion, and it's the nature boy. And in the middle of all that put that cigarette out, and we still get questions about this literally every week you weren't there. What do you remember about it? I'm sure you've talked about it discussed it with somebody at some point. Yeah. Discuss it with you. When you showed it to me for the first time a couple years ago, and I laughed my azoff because it's in the moment live in there is no way to go back and end at that it lives forever. It's one of those classic loehmann's. So all I can imagine is Pat. Patterson Jack lands being backstage at the time and smoking a cigarette or maybe one of the crew guys one of the extras on the crew sitting there having a having a cigarette and gene catching it out of the corner of his I I don't know what happened, but that's probably probably what took place at that time. What are you about the the skiff? He did with the Bushwacker. I think Thomas on even have produce this produce the ones the original ones. And it was some of the most fun because Vince had this vision for the bush-whackers and most of it involved eating and getting really messy. So everything that we did vents wanted the bush-whackers get gene messy as well. So it was a lot of fun kind of going around Stanford different locations, and allowing the Bushwacker to bushwack whatever was in their path and after while gene had fun with gene just in like in like get messed up, and especially didn't like all the sardines and crap. But that was that was a shitload of fun. And after a while gene started contributing to that we did stuff with them on their initial vignettes. And then we did stuff with them at Busch gardens where we had them kind of going. Through the. The animal kingdom and different things. Like that that Oakland was a part of. But you could put gene in any situation. He'd make it work. Let's talk about when he couldn't make it work anymore. His final appearance with the F is on superstars September eighteenth nineteen ninety three and gene is gonna record science contract expired. It simply wasn't offered a new one. And he said he'd probably could have sat down with Vance came to some sort of deal, but they had already been talking WCW. So he decided to go there. This is happening at a time. When the business is definitely on the down swing in. Everybody knows the tough times that are head for not at four ninety five and here at the end of night three one of the guys who's most closely associated with your brand as contract expires. You're there at the time was this just a business decision. And he couldn't afford to keep gene or while contract. Not redact exactly what it was, gene. Gene was going to remain with us. It was going to involve a cut in pay. And probably a reduction in in a lot of his workload is well. But it was definitely gonna involve a reduction in his pay and Vincent wanna stand in his way and didn't want insulting either. So I think it was just a mutual parting of the ways for business at the time. Headed had advanced take that was just very matter. If I can't afford him size gotta go. Or is there some sonar? God damn we gotta find a way to keep gene. I never heard Vance. There never really was. It was it was just strictly business, his heart. I think is heart hurt a little bit. But he moved on in in business. He just moves on. But I think that at the. After all was said and done. I think it's just hard a little bit to see him go. But there was nothing. There was nothing. We could do to keep him because he wasn't gonna take a reduction in pay, and it was a better deal for him to go to WCW. Here's my question. I guess I sort of had an idea what you were going to answer that before you did. But why not even just offer? I mean, we'll just being honest and saying, gene Alami, okay? Engage engage engaging and gave him the blessing to to go and look for something else. Gene mentioned when he left he gave bents Huggins office. How does that process that he think when you've got a guy who's been with you for ten years, and he was with you when he built this company just monumental heights. And just made more money than you could ever imagine for yourself and your family and all the families associated with the brand. But now, well the business sane better day some that God's leaving. And this is a time when you know hall cogos laughed when the much van departures coming the next year gas, you're really closely associated with the brand Bobby Heenan. They're they're out. But main gene was always there. You know, when it's gonna make a movie, gene, still here Chebbi up MS vents, just compartmentalize all of this as I have is able to just keep it moving. Exactly, you just you just have to keep moving if you stop then you're gonna get swallowed up. So you keep moving you wish him, well, and you move on it's, but but at the same time, it's a family because you spend so many hours together, you work so hard together you can't help but have feelings and and become close with people. So that part is hard, but you have to put on the business hat and just keep moving forward. What was the reaction internally? You know, like amongst the boys when they say that a guy who's been here so long gene laving create state of panic for any of the gals. I wouldn't say panic sadness. Yes. And I think that from from my vantage point, I definitely know from the production guys the studio they've a really sad. They were upset that gene left because he was one of the boys. He was one of the crew. And he was someone that always hung out with them. We always had a really good time together. So there's there's just sorrow. I mean, it's just genuine sadness with someone that you love is is leaving you. I'm done. We've done a bunch of the shows where we talk about gossip fall out of favor with Vance for whatever reason. And that's really what this show is guess is just peering into the mind of a madman that one that created the WB at for, you know, however, we want to categorize what we're doing on the show. But one of the things have always been fascinated with is have conspiracy process all of this and something that did become to lie until in research for the show this week. I'm a fly over is his last couple of years in the WF. He wasn't on speaking terms of vets. I mean, that's direct from Jean that he wasn't on the best. Speaking terms with fans, once there's some some falling out that maybe we haven't ever really discussed or did was the the stress and pressure of the business getting Vince at that point. No. And it was I don't know that g may have characterized it that way, but gene didn't have. Have any interaction with Vince? Because gene was doing things at the studio. Gene, wasn't on the road with us all the time at that point. He would come in every once in a while he just didn't have that interaction within that he used to have. So you think that that the need think that is a move vents banks preemptively? When he knows he's gonna have to sever the relationship. No. I just it was it was just simply a. The way that we were doing business at the time. And so much of what we had done on the road so much of what Vince used to be involved with he was no longer involved with and a lot of that went over to the television production side, and what we were doing is like we would write TV, we would go and produce it. And then we were pretty much hands off on a lot of it from the production end of things, and that was Kevin Donna his groups gene was mainly working with Kevin and the guys on that end of things. He he wasn't working with us on the front end of gene was more on the back end of it. So the relationship in the just the interaction not relationship the interaction with vents was no longer there. Because Vince wasn't producing that stuff. We're in the beginning. He did right. Let's talk about jumping ship here. At happens November six nineteen ninety three is when I pop up on Saturday night. So not a ton of separation does Vance or anybody in the company feel some sort of tinge of I don't know maybe ownerships, not the right worry behind. He supposed to be our guy shouldn't be there. It stinks. It's always gonna sting especially someone who is notable Gino kirtland because he was the guy that was on on everything with us out nights main event. Everything we did, gene Oakland. So. Yeah, it stung. But again, she can't can't dwell on it. Meltzer wrote about jeans leaving of course, he said Jean Oakland who came along with David chills on the first Vincent back. What talent raid of the AMA eighty three appears to be severing ties with the group after nearly ten years of on again off again employment. Eventually he would say no other details available than word reaching us that up happy with the new deal offered by the VF, which may have included having him moved to Connecticut fulltime his WWAFL was reportedly for two hundred and fifty thousand dollars per year. Plus thirty five percent of the not hundred number and allegedly. That's true. I've actually picked Eric Bischoff sprain about the hotline business on three weeks. And he said that. Yeah. The rumor and innuendo that Jane was a partner on the hotline as accurate it was found money for WC view that was almost no revenue traction there before. So if Jinchi grew it the gene deserved to participate, and he. You did a great job at it allegedly up to half a million dollars a year. The thing would generate just from people like listeners this show, myself included who would call in and wanna hear what Mark Madden or maintain or Bobby Heenan or whoever saying to fifty year. Obviously that's a lot higher than what everybody was offering. The you believe that the the move was something that was discussed their ninety three on that bag contract offer that you said the vents did make a reduced rate or is that Meltzer free style because he was a hot button for Jane. I I don't I don't understand the question was what? Moving like, do you think the part of the one of the stipulations in this contract each advance offered him that ultimately he didn't take these think that moving to Connecticut was pardoned of that? No. At that. At that time. I don't believe it was. And I think that more than anything it was if we were going to do something we have to reduce straight. Then what you making and g wasn't interested in that. And he had the other offer out. There was going to stand in his way or the other offer. Did you stay in touch with Jane when he went to W, I did not saw a few times. But it wasn't something that no we didn't. We didn't stay in touch. I know that there were different overtures over the years to folks in the production company production company and the production side of things to come back. But no, I personally didn't say in in touch with Jean the next the next time that I had any real interaction with him. Was it wrestlemainia in Houston for the gimmick battle, Royal? Let's talk about that. Wrestlemania seventeen two thousand one he's gonna do commentary with his longtime close personal friend. Mr. Bobby, the brain Heenan and began about a Royal ear involved w w only been down for a little while. How does this come to be? The the whole concept behind the the damn gimmick battle Royal was going back and getting every gimmick that there was you know, putting him in this one one battle, Royal? Then it became how do we make it even more special? I believe it was a might have been Kevin Dunn's idea to do. We want to go back. God what you first of all you think wouldn't it be great to have gorilla monsoon back here to call this thing. Well, through the years as I'd mentioned gene had made overtures about wanting to come back Kevin said jeans available gene would be perfect for this. Well, who else would be perfect for his Bobby the brain Heenan, so Kevin reached out to both of them. And the deal was made they came in and that opened the door for them to come back and kind of come back into the family and do some things with the time. What the hell was it WWF twenty four seven. Know that thing on on cable. And so there were some new programming that they could contribute to and the rest is I say history Jane returned. Yeah. So now I did classics on demand, but the amass Square Garden classics for the machine at work, and he did a lot of stuff for the vintage collection in two thousand eight this is pre network, but they're certainly laying the groundwork the legends of the roundtable and things like that all are on the network now, and he's got a big role a lot of those. He finally gets into the hall of fame inducted by his longtime close personal friend, the immortal in April of two thousand six and doing his acceptance speech a said that he wanted to still alive from Bob Knight and be buried face down upon his deaths of his critics could kiss his ass. That's all tremendous. That's classic Oakland. He also manage to go ahead and induct his other longtime close personal friend, Mr Howard Finkel into the hall of fame in two thousand nine and there was a series of old school promos that we saw in November of twenty ten where they did like an old school episode of raw and the had gene and full nostalgia. Interviewing gones, like Johnson on Randy Orton, and that sort of kick started a new movement to sell like nostalgia versions of the logo. Of course, could call it every BF so they just chop the the F off. But they got the two ws in there and really doubled down on the stalled. I don't know you weren't there for that. But there's nobody better for that spot that main, gene, right? Absolutely. And I'm going to go back because you'd asked me earlier about people that mean Jean traveled with in his early days of traveling in the company, I totally remiss, but oh mentioned it was with Howard Finkel and Howard. Gene, traveled up and down the highways and the byways every day, and that is what Jean says contributed to his drinking and growing old a lot faster than he absolutely should have was traveling with Howard Finkel all those years, but that they were traveling partners early on when they were doing the individual localized interviews every day in a different market. Jane would pop up sporadically wrestlemania twenty seven in the rock compete. We Herman smackdown and April twenty twelve. Another episode in December twenty twelve this time for raw where they're doing slamming match of the year ward, he'd appeared young ninetieth birthday party in two thousand thirteen he did the old old school raw twenty fourteen tnr. They did like a wrestling hotline spoof. He jetted Mr. T in the hall of fame in twenty fourteen. And then maybe the most recent thing that we all remember about gene was leads house, which is able on the network, and I don't think they'll probably do another one. But man, it will Super Bowl and to sort of see these guys in element. And I had by the time that show aired I had met Jean hung out with Jane few times, the Rick and boy that show really captured who mangy and really was he would I think most people talk about this a lot. But a may or may not have enjoyed alcohol. Corvette. And may or may not have had some kidney complications. And he and Rick would talk about hell after night show. They would have to head the bar. I have about eighteen clear ones. Conrad and I don't know why. But that crack me up, but jeans, drinking was legendary any good manging drinking stories, you can share that. I can share. Yes. So that caveat in there. I think that one of the funniest was when we were at a brand new hotel. We were trying out and Stanford Connecticut, a really nice high end hotel for some reason was given us these incredibly great rates after a particular evening out with gene, gene, tried to hug a several thousand dollar vase or vase. She likes to say. And it came tumbling down with gene in his in his state of maybe having one or two too many of martinis, but that was few and far between Jean liked to have have a drink or two. And we had a lot of fun out in the bars. And what have you, but he was always a blast and go back to that hotel. They immediately took that right away from us and asked us to please not book anything in their hotel going forward after that night. But he he was a lot of fun man, gene. Gene was an awful lot of fun. One of the things he was probably not ham. But somebody on his behalf is he trying to get over the phrase, holy balls on Twitter. Gene ISM that. Maybe I didn't never hear. I'm never heard that. Well, I'll tell you company surprise earlier this year because I saw Jean mountain dew kickstart commercial, Kevin Hart. I believe in the commercials trying to impersonate Randy savage, and I think last time we saw him on WBZ TV was January where he was on the twenty fifth anniversary episode of raw is interviewing AJ styles. Now is probably your last time or next to last time saying gene in real life right on though, he saw him at the twenty fifth anniversary around New York. We saw in there. Then we saw him in Winston Salem, wrestle Cade any final lasting memories of Jane. You wanna share with us about your last few visits him? You know, I I remember going back to the twenty fifth anniversary of Rahm. I remember that evening when gene was getting ready to go out and talking to him in him just saying, wow, they've got so many riders so many people running around. Remember how used to do it? We kind of chuckled, you know, reminisced a little bit. And they look at me says, Bruce, I don't know any of these guys I need them to write it down for me now. And they're telling me, gene, you got it. I don't know. They all I'm talking to. In that was typical gene. And then he pulled it off like the champ that he is the last time that I saw was this this past November Winston Salem. And i'm. You know, the last thing that I. I did was kiss him on the forehead and said, I love you, gene. And I'll see you later. And I had I known as last time. I was going to see him. But I'm glad I'm glad I got to tell them that. And we were sitting there at the bar when he was having dinner before we went to go do our show and invited him to the show, and he was tired and just got up kissed him on the forehead and the loved him. Well, let's. Trumping up here on. Fortunately, we lost main. Jane on January second earlier this week. He's buzz wife and fifty four years Tucson's Todd and tour three grandchildren tied as a professional hockey player with the New York Islanders, obviously true legend and an icon on the wrestling business and lots people throw those words around, but then ever more deserving them with main, gene. What do you think genes? Like see that's going to be it isn't going to be holy balls. No. No. I just I will always see gene hold the microphone with that other hand up in the air. And and I will always picture standing next to whole Cogan and getting hulkamania over to the level that got I mean, Gino, Colin is said he he was he was the best. And he's what everyone aspired to be. Let's let's ask some questions. We took social media and said, hey, Colin audible recovered Mangena this week they were questioned about mangy and if so just had it's right here. Katherine wants to know who to gene love working with and who has lace favorites to work with. But far hulk HOGAN was probably favorite by long shot, is least favorite was probably warrior, and savage. Savage. No, once I haven't just because Randy could be Randy sometimes and be a little off putting and just ran could be rent rate and could be intense sometimes and Jean liked to have fun. And Randy brandy wasn't in the mood to have fun was what was but they got along. I'm just saying as far as working with them and being predictable and unpredictable. Teela Brown, not dealing this Taylor. Oh, there any talent. Gene had heat with backstage sailing. He was pretty well liked cross the board. Did anybody really not like Jane? I if the if they did never knew about it. No. I think gene was really genuinely liked by everybody. RJ sergeant wants to your best memory of being on the road with Jay. And he told the drinking story earlier, you got get ribs that gene ater had playoff hammer plan on other guys. Not off the top of my head. You know, gene? Gene was one of those guys always had always liked to have a good time. Gene was the one that would break the tension. Gene was the one that kept everybody laughing when it was it was late at night, and we still had to shows to go. Jane was bussed in everybody's balls kinda ribbon on the square, but he was cab. Manny was just a pro. He could get you through it. Darrelle wants to know. What's the best main? Gene moment, they got left on the cutting room floor. I think that if you went back and took all jeans fucked this you would have you'd have a pretty good long real the the best stuff was things when he would just completely go off the rails with his one minute bits. And we'd have say God's. No. We can't go there. You can't do that. I'll put a lot of was just some of the blue humor that he would do in the confines of the studio for all Americans and outs. This is from round did any of the boys intentionally try to make gene crackup during their promise. We've seen a lot of guys are trying to really make the other ones laugh, and I think something waiver commentating on a press conference in wrestling recently happened when I look guys we're trying to make the other ones laugh, do you? Remember anybody who always made at the Michigan, gene crack or vice versa? Piper always used to kind of pride himself and seeing if he could get him to break character little bit. Roddy was definitely good at that. Donny once I was there ever any real life? Hey between, gene. And Bobby Heenan? They always seem to be taking potshots at each other on the air. So I always wondered if the really didn't like each other or if they're just to France joking around. They were the very best friends inside outside of the ring. That's what made it so good. That's what's so fun. To me is I get messages all the time listeners to this show who thank you. And I just legitimately hate each other to the point where when we were on vacation recently ran into a listener who said, oh my God. What the hell you doing here? So I'm still vacation. And he's like you going to -cation. I don't know why that maybe laugh. And and then he said, we're here will and I was almost very society fucking, Bruce. People don't believe that you and I are transgender life. So that that question. Stuck outs me Brandon wants to know in your opinion? Bruce and had better chemistry with managing hulk HOGAN, RIC flair, Randy savage. I don't think Randi's conversation Koga hulk HOGAN, really have been Ricky. Yes. John wants to know the WB ever having problem with main jeans not hundred rumors when he was on the WCW shows or it seemed that he was far too offering applying rumor and innuendo about WBF stars. I think that there were times we were miffed at some of the things that were reported. But again that was in the middle of the war, and we were lobbying just as many back the other way as they were our way. Kenny wants to main Mangena ever appear in Houston during the brief time that they'd be Efim Paul Bosch work together in the summer of eighty seven his appearances were three video tape when he would interview Nick bop winkle who was the w world champion, Bobby Heenan when they would come down and do have matches in Houston. So gene was in that way. He appears not live. Jason wants to know what was main finest work while all American wrestling, the brain. I think the genes finest work was a stand up interviews and his his step. Promoting the towns to me that is that's gene, Oakland. That's what he was best. Nick wants to know how many are who were jeans best friends on the you've told us thankful. You've told us Bobby Heenan. Is there another name? I think I think HOGAN. In that that pretty much covers it as far as his very best friends. He was that. He was really close with. Randy what I'd have to throw him in there. Randy wants to know, your your favorite personal moment. Our memory with Jane, so not necessarily something that was on the air just something between the two. Well, I'll tell you what it was actually something that was on the air because it was we did a special for USA network. And the the last line of the show Vincent had wanted the line to be that Sargent slaughter was greatest natural leader since the the great general Sodom Hussein. And Oakland was like fuck you. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not going to be out there. When somebody does it gene didn't want to be a part of that angle in any way, shape or form Sogenal, and I did it. And we were we doing it. And we had like one take don't think it was live, and it may have been, but it was very last segment of the show very last bit of the show and in his brother love, I did it with Jean and Jean knew exactly where I was. Going and he was like basically you son of a bitch. You got me. And I got the line right afterwards. That's that was his lying. Son of a bitch. You got me. Thank God, we weren't out there. But I did it because it was back sage gene was just that was one that he was scare full of the whole angle was slaughter and everything I join working with, gene. Well, let's let's keep moving. Here got tons of fun questions here. Tom wants to know what was the best advice or lesson than verge? Learn from Maine, Jane. Wow. Get it done. Do what you have to do to get it done when the world's crumbling all around you. There's shit to be done get it done. And that was something that I learned I would panic sometimes when I got there early on. I didn't know what to do because of all the different personalities round me. So I would I would start to try to please everybody. Jane took me off to the side. One day and says Bros. Do what's in front of me and get it done? This is what we have to do right now. Let's get this done worry about all the other shit later. I think that kind of sticks right up there. He he and grill. Monsoon both helped me so much in that way. Charlie wants to know did gene regret going WCW. I don't know. I don't think so Heli had a good run there. I don't think so at all. Sean wants to know what was jeans drink of choice, vodka MARTINI. Robert wants to know who's the wasn't for him to always wear tuxedo. The WF that was something. Vince, always did early on E wanted all of his announcers and commentators stand out. We're tuxes be classy. Devin wants to know do they ever considered giving Jane of piper's pit style show? No that wasn't jeans. Rowley was Jane was the neutral guy that wouldn't have worked. Jay wants to did Bruce ever have main gene burger can't say ever had the pleasure. Abba mean Jean burger? Ryan wants to know nothing salacious spammed the list, but any funny manging party stories. I gotta tell you feel like main Jane would be the best guy ever to have a party. Well, he is any was the life of the party. And like, I said, you know, I think that the fun times. How funny was gene always was the life of the party, whether he was telling jokes, whether he was at the end of the piano singing in that that was gene Oakland was. Just a lot of fun. Last question here. This one's from Robert Collins, what was gene Oakland like in real life. What you see is what you get in many respects. But he could also be very very reflective one of the nicest guys that I've ever had the pleasure working with one of the most talented individuals ever in the business because I just had confidence in him, and I trusted him as well. And he never let me down in that regard. So. So summit all up. He was good father. And he was just a really really good, man. And there's not a lot of that out there. And I think that gene fits in that category. Without question. The greatest to ever do it the best that ever did it Maine's in Oakland. You'll be missed. We appreciate you guys. Taking time to join us here on the show, celebrating the life and times the great gene for Linden. Hope you'll be back next week. We're back to our regular scheduled programing will hit Royal rumble nineteen ninety nine next week. But in the meantime, let's let's relive some more Mangena memories. And we'll put some videos on YouTube and Facebook and everywhere we can celebrate the great life made. You know, we'll see next week right here. Something wrestle first pitcher.

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Diamond Dallas Page Is Positively Unstoppable

Talk Is Jericho

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Diamond Dallas Page Is Positively Unstoppable

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So that's my psych. Yeah. You couldn't say belt because a belt is what you use the hold up your pants. You couldn't say fans right because it's the WB universe and never say marks. All right. All right. They're not marks. There are fans and the other one is the job we do favors here. Not jobs. So when we were DP y. Workouts. I was even more than that. I was I was gonna say exhibition, but it was a workout. But was seemed like more than that. Because every day. It was packed man. My wife Brenda was expecting maybe thirty forty people for a cruise. You know, like, we do workshops. We always do like one hundred people. How does many as one hundred seventy two in Canada? Yeah. Right, and wealth wealth, Ontario wealth on der. Right. My buddy Marcel or as docket m d cats an MD up there got certified to teach do peo-. I mean phenomenal. He's like the head of my medical everywhere. Developing right now because we're dealing with so many different types of people. But seniors is where this really is active, especially with our old ADP why rebuild program. So I've had them different people. Call me up. So where are you certified in wife for starter? But. Let me put you over to my medical people, which I've got like probably nine different doctors that of all different types. You know, a lot of chiropractors, but also ears nice and throat guy. I got a guy who's a Dennis like these guys who are you know, doctors who got registered. But why I I'm and then, you know, so more cells, it's been amazing. He's got big classes up there all the time. And we adjust go come off all in where we did one hundred sixty nine people that were paid to come in. And it was too big. So you did a workout at the star cast at star cashed. Yes. Carlisle, and we'll do it again. Because I know they got the new one get ready to pop, but we did it star cast Conrad call me up that's back when Conrad was going to have like twelve different things like meet the N W O. They're always going to do different. You know, theme party type exactly could come to. And enjoy and he's going to have twenty of the boys. Well that twenty turned into like one hundred twenty of the boys and like forty one different events. He had. Yeah. It was crazy crazy. I walked up through now. His wife, Meghan. And I just thought her Richard. I just walked up and hugged her. I said you look like you could use it. She was DP need to so bad. I mean that was a phenomenon you know, that what happened there. And then we all know what's happened since then it's like crazy. But I found the same thing on the cruise just lately thinking because I remember I was I the where my cabin was looking down at the area. And it's like, okay. Well, let me just look at the window and see who's out there doing DP why? And it was the whole deck was packed. And there's people even in the upper deck doing his, including Mark Willis, my partner causes manager. He did it all three days. There was ov-. We counted. We counted up over two hundred ten I was amazing cruiser was drinking and partying. They're up at ten AM or living in to do do DP. Why with it was it was so it was so mazing and the energy of that whole cruise what you put on there, dude. And I gotta say Chris gave me the most tricked out room in the place. My wife was like oh my God. Oversaw everything. But on the next one I wouldn't be a little bit to the back because the other side of that, you know, being a six can be sixty three years young, but sixty three it was unbelievable view unbelievable spot. But the bump bump they'll basement, boom. The soundcheck around three o'clock plays at five zero. The wrestling stars wa wa wa bad comes by. And my winter she loved it. Maybe I just need. I like I I grew up in a nightclub business so back then I love this album. Now, it's a little overwhelming. That's rough starting to feel my but she saw a couple of guys Dan don't want to say their names because one announced anything yet. But I was telling them, listen, you gotta talk to DP because the cabin that. I can put you guys in is second to none. So the the the vacation element of it is is so much a cool thing and being up in that area where you're sequestered. But like you said it was tricked out like big time security. The guys there called six. Six men six man yet. Those guys were the most professionally run crew, bro. And you know, I've been doing this shit for a long time and grad grew up in a nightclub business know, what it's like the service people in shit, man. They were amazing. And they like wouldn't let me go and thank God. Because you know, we're not talking about. There might be some wrestling fans there everyone. Thousand. All having the time of their lives. Right. And but the security the guys, you know, I did about good on the way out 'cause they took care of me. Good time. And my wife had a great time. We were the first treatment MC, you know, was there who you know, who had kids with them and everything. So this year, I might want to bring couple of girls. Well, yeah, we'll be getting a call from us. But I want I want to talk to you about you mentioned all in and also being on the cruise and seeing kind of the ring of honor guys who are now all of the guys more specifically, Cody because I was in and out all in very quickly is your members kind of sequestered. But I know I say, oh, I was so fast heard Cohen outside going into Jericho in there. But you were really tight with dusty. But I know Cody he talks to you at five. I'm not sure exactly what your relationship is with him. But I know you're at all in for a reason. Yeah. It's a tell you that kid. Because these kids I'm sure I I'm known him since he's like ten years old. Yeah. And. It's so many stories with him the ones that pop out like when when this whole thing happened was the sell out in twenty minutes. And I thought it was ten thousand was eleven thousand right eleven thousand in thirty minutes. Yes. And when people said, so were you surprised it could you no one could have called that. I want. Yeah. I get that I go. But you kinda got you got to know some of his backstory, so he would critique matches. I'm talking about a weapon I say, so what do you think of the match today? So who do you think he would tell me who was a kid as a kid as a kid, but talking like me, and you talk and. Okay. And when he was fourteen he was going to be going to be a software, and I am dusty had this little promotion called turnbuckle and light always come by and see him. And I was there one time. I wanted to get sentenced ring and do some stuff. And and he was there. I said, hey, I always call him young buck back then crazies that. Right. I mean, always as it so young buck when you gonna get ready for football that I'm not gonna play this year. I you're you're not gonna play like his dad would not miss coaching him by Kiwi. I came and talked to the kids, you know, it was one of those things and he's I'm gonna play football football to share. I'm going to wrestle. Set my goals. I'm going to imagine you're I'm gonna win the state championship. And I went really my. Oh, wow. That's a big goal there, bro. I go. You know, that's gonna take a lot of work. So it's not more year. I want to say, I don't know. I can't remember exactly what we say. Like eighteen twelve or something respectable run. You know that next year I'm in LA now, I've moved ally. 'cause WWE's hap- coming gone for me. I'm in I'm in LA dooney acting thing. And I would check in with them and is Lebanon. Oh and young call pay man. I don't have good Bob Lago undefeated right now. And I call them back when he was like twenty two now. And then I call him back with he was like thirty now. And he was now now he's getting excited because he's getting interviewed by the Atlantic constant journal, which is our the journal paper big paper here. He's been interviewed with these. Bad on the NBC local affiliate. And he's got like, you just don't know. It's like I go. Whoa, slowdown young buck. I might have been three time world champion. No, no, no. I might have made now. No, no, no. I go, bro. I go. I'm just kidding. I go just keep your feet on the ground. I could. Now, you got big bulls eye on you. I said you make it, you know, the state finals I said, I'll be there. He said you'll calm I go. I'll be there. I booked my flight right away. Forty-eight? No, wow. Wow. No. I didn't know that. He ate knows g you talk about that. He doesn't he doesn't talk about this. He's not a blow his horn kinda guy. So that next year. Now, we're talking about you could I didn't you know, I've been in his ear and mainly beginning was because of his dad what he did for me. But then it became about him because I just love the kit. So I. I said to him I said, so what do you do the next year? Like when you got us cool, you know, thinking about going to college. But also think about acting I really want to act he said, but if I if I win the states, you know, again that I really gonna go to go to college and do the ain't good for you championship. Or, you know, maybe, you know, maybe I'll do the Hollywood thing. I sell tell you what I said I'm going to bring you out this summer. I bring him out to LA. He stays with me for a week over this week. Like, I couldn't have coordinated it. Like this. My buddy Terry crews who I've known since he's nobody really football players. He was he he's a walk on football player in college walk on sex where you're got a full ride. Didn't get drafted walked onto and played seven different years with different teams in the NFL seven years NFL never been named from because he ever had that spot. But that same guy like I set down like me, and you were sitting down, and I wish to God I still had to tape. But I lost it a mean him talking about his journey. He's been with the same woman for like now like thirty some years at that time he had come out with these kids in rom talking to him. He's nobody, but we met when WCW did the thing would battle dome, and he did you ever see battle? Oh, it was like gladiators or something that, but he would come out, and you know, look. Exactly the way he looks today. Just shredded shaped head with the white suit with white pants, white shoes oath, no shirt, and he had a four guys who are quintuplets or something for duplicate doubles all in blue suits shaved head no shirt and he called himself team money. Like, he was money if you to come in our business he killed it. Right. So bottom line is a small part in Seoul, try so place. Oh plan. Yeah. So plane. So I bring them to the set. He gets comes sad. He beats Terry crews gets pitched for Terry crews, and I tell them US, Cody, I said this kid right here going to be huge star watch. And we all know where he is today. But I also took them to rob zombie had a party premier party. And I brought them to that. And he's got pitcher who've rob zombie and funny. I don't think I've ever told you this before. So I kind for devils regionals rejects. Yes. And the part I addition for was either your part or Danny trae hills part. And when I got the feedback you said, you're not ugly enough for. What you pretty part price. Whether it was you or Danny like, why can't argue with that? They definitely had you guys made up looking pretty it looks pretty normal. People do not regularly, my that's you. It's you most me, you know. What's funny? Do you ever seen Kane Hodder? Oh, yes. I saw ministers. He looks like your little brother a little version of you. We've take pictures on both sides. I just saw downstairs Ronald. Kind of. A great guy, man. Be jason. He's done a bunch of huge hoorah. I was thinking like you should just be doing this convention today because it's right up. Your alley is far as with people come here for some respite. But also with your rejects night, you would probably do good business here too. Yeah. I would I I do like I've got a couple of coming up in Atlanta. So I've just sort of like, you know, there's like five different things. But I'm going we're going to give me a guarantee, of course. Of course. That's why you do it. Now. Right. Exactly. And mainly get the word about what I'm doing with my whole program. But so Cody that that next year he goes back. I want to say eleventh or twelfth batch. He lose. So I call them up like, hey, bro. What's up? Thank god. What he was. Why why would you say that I said code you think you learn from one Umbro? You learn from losing you learn from fallen down making mistakes. I so here's your advantage. So let me ask you this. Would you have rather a met in Forty-six no met that guy to semifinals, and he took it on you. I said right now if you meet him again, you have the advantage. He thinks he beat you. You are calculating cat. I know, you know, where you drop the ball, and you're gonna fix that. Bottom line is I was there again for his finals against that kid, and at that point in Georgia when you're in a state finals, you get your family of five seats, I was up with standard by daughter Britney. And Cody me dad, get Gallus down here. I got to sit as one of the five people there and he smoked that kit. So the. Thing was what are you going to do like we had talked about this? I. You win the states. You're gonna go to LA if you don't you might go to college. So after matches over walked up to him. I said, so what did you decide? He said I made the decision for I got here. I said really I said, what are you in do come out? I said, but what if you lost? He said, look, the mainly smile to goes, you know, failure was not an option. So what's happening right now Blake when he was putting all this thing together with the young bucks. And they were pulling everything together. Putting that whole thing together and doing it like he may never get to do this. We're having dinner at my house, and he was saying to me like we never get to do this again. Right. I want to have fun with it. So he asked me if I would be one of the five guys because the ring with him comes zip, right? Yeah. We see when his dad dot, and I heard this for me numerous times like really numerous times. But when Cody called me and said, it just meant a little bit more because it wasn't coming from him. And his dad used always tell Cody I got five friends and one hand guys I can count on and go dude say some guys would come on and off the list. You said, but Dallas is always on that list. That's cool. And he called me and told me that and I heard Desi say that. But it just you know, it it just made me feel. It's funny when I first got in the business early nineties. I remember people saying that you you're going to have as many friends as you can trust. If you have as many friends that you can trust his fingers on your right hand, your lucky in this business, and it's funny, you're dusty. So that must have been kind of an old timers thing. Right. I guess, you know, I I don't like to think about it like that. Because I I know we all go through ups and downs, and we get heated, but the bottom line is especially with our guys. There's su- crazy brotherhood man's crazy fraternity like, no matter. How many is? Yeah. I gotta tell you this. You know, one of the guys who really made me like a jettison. Like like when he told me, I wasn't gonna make it like it let something under me. And it was Greg ganja. And what happened is great gave me my first break ever. Awa Awa Hebr. Brought me in and then when he was a manager as a manager. That's how I got my first break ever. It was rob Russell who set it up, but Craig pull the trigger, and then he came to WCW, and he was you know, now he was working in the office. But he loved who's such a great work around of your seniors about some. I I grew up in Winnipeg. So the high flyers Greg on Jim burns other two of my early heroes that guy go work is off. So now he's teaching down at the power plant. And so, you know, I'm, you know, I'm like a sponge, but when you're working as a coach, which would he would be in that scenario, you you're going to go spend the time with the people that you think are really going to make it, and I couldn't really get his attention. And so one night at the at the bar. I said to him I said I said, Greg I said, why don't you like me? You gave me my first break. Every goes, I don't dislike you Dallas. I mean super genuine, and I said, well, what do you think? I don't have. I said, you know, I I say, you don't think I'm gonna make it. Do you? Eighteen eighty one just go. No, I don't he thought about it. He's than now. Dallas to be honest. I don't I said, what don't you think? I have any thought about it. And he said charisma say. Say charisma. But I must have eat what you somewhere and it walked away. But I told this story numerous times because it lit a fire under me. And then it Gino cleanse funeral our down there for that. 'cause bam Gino was super special to soda or is that new Sarasota, okay and great came up to me. And he was so I mean, he shook my hand he gave me a hug, and he said to me. No. I haven't been many about wrong about many people because I was wrong about you. He goes your career, man. It was amazing to watch. I'm so proud of you. I said, thank you. Brought means a lot. And then we got pulled apart because people and then at the bar afterwards. I was getting ready to leave and he came up to me. And he ran me again. And he shook my hand. And he said I want, you know, I'm really sorry about that. I I don't know what happened. I didn't think you were ready for the get despite out there. He goes, it doesn't matter. He goes. He goes, I want you to know how how I feel about you. And I said, dude, I said, I I've always liked you. I said it wasn't like I disliked you during this time. You did something for me. You limited extra fire me. So I gotta tell you. Thank you. I mean it man. I mean, I've always really liked you ops so site that we gene who pulled us back together since we talk on the phone. I've got some of the things going and super respect the cat. And you know, it just like you say brotherhood and the the guy who gave me the first break ever. I want to have that special bond. Of course, now see mentioned me, gene Oakland page, and we're gonna talk about him and Ryan rounding much savage, but before we get to those stories and many many more Valentine's Day is only two weeks away. 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So Isaac rather just sitting around I'm gonna go sit in the box and watch the guys do promos and. It was staying in once in a while they'd get flare Berty, aren't and you were always in there. And gene would lead you guys through along with Lee Marshall, she was also very good at it. And then one day lured and show up because he was didn't want to be there. When we go to the gym or something. And they said what about this guy in the corner? Pennzoil what about you? You wanna to me? And I went and did a promo for Kalamazoo with meaning Oakland and the next week, they gave me to etc. Etc. And that's how I learned. Gene was so good at leading you through it. Did you get that from him to did you learn a lot from promos from but first of all being a fan, you know, in the eighties because you don't know if I ever told you this, but I tried to wrestle at twenty two years old which was going into seventy nine I actually someone sent me a card, and when I mean by a card, I mean, like the paper where you print off the paper, you you print up like five sheets, and you fold them together. And you make a program fact. Fact, and I have back then as I tried three matches sucked. I mean might my key you by teacher at the time was Keno Torres, and he was from Puerto Rico, grandma. Greg. What did you say grabs grabs like? No back, then was a whole different animal in the seventies, man. And. They didn't want you in the business in the seventies. If you wanted to be ended, they would do everything they could get you out of it. And dude, I had the long one hair. I mean, I actually had a crazy. Good book. Then where I didn't realize that that's not a good thing. You know? But I I I'm my third batch. And you know, and then it just it just goes go, I hurt my knee really bad say when I get hit by a car so puts me out, but I actually on that loosely Baber have the name handsome, Dallas page. Valued tad growing up as a kid. So I had that. And I tried it. But it didn't work out for me. You know? So, you know, later on when I was when the eighties starting to blow up. I was so pissed that I didn't pay my dues. I let the opportunity to run my first rock and roll bar that won't talking about a big as this room. Here's the band at the end long bar, and you know, the booze broads and the party it would already been in the business for five years in the bar business. But now, I've actually had run a place, and I just had so much fun that I when wrestling started the Bopha the eighties. I was so mad at myself for vote-losing division of my goal. I stopped watching and then I'm flicking channels. I don't know when I see gorilla, and my hell is that in Ventura and Jeff. Stephen shero was unbelievable to me. I mean, the way he did promos and away talked and got. Stay amazed with the new it's just a subtle thing. But with that Minnesota accent. Yes away, he initiated is different from anybody else sees him. So he was so different to miss. So I'm watching him now. Right. I'm pulled back in and the first match the first guy to come out of that curtain got a bag over his shoulder. And Jake and now suck back in. So watching gene do promos would macho man that was insane magic 'cause this shit that he did like, wow. That was mind blowing to me. But how Jean could make sense of when much was going off into is. Oh, been thinking they made sense everything we're saying gene would pull that kid. You got lost. Or someone got lost when attention. He would make it make sense God, you know, proceed all those guys. And now I'm there he's there, but I'm a bottom guy, but slowly working my way up and getting to know, gene. Like personally, meet them at the bar. Who's more fun Davidge rake with the the first night I met him. He bought me a drink in a table dance. Exactly, you're in this town undisclosed location. But yeah, like he was a rocker like at total old school brother, you know, up to. And he was a guy who literally like we loved their grandpa, gene. Anyone afraid to say. Just so funny to be around. And when I finally got with Neo when I shot, my big angle is savage. It was the biggest thing ever happened to my life. I could change my whole life and before the match I was in the back, and we it was right before the big match. We're cutting this promo when mean reindeer going back and forth. And you know, I'm I'm I wanted frigging know everything I'm doing man like when I have down. So I could improv I want I want to know what I'm saying so much through it, and I was off to decide because it got the match, and then I'm gonna cut the promo and he walked up to me. It would carry that role paper once in a while. And he hit being asked to it goes, you got this kid you. This got this. You know, you feel good. I feel good genie goes your time. He grabs me, and he goes, and you've got serious this shit. And he said you worked your ass offered us. It's title. No. This is when I'm going to go. I it's it's the match that I'm going to have which is a handsome match before to set a promo with me Randy, which leads us into the pay per view. And are just you know, you just he was always there for me. There was what ever where I got. So in that his promo and the crowd was going crazy. And I forgot where. And it has. Myself. Gee picks it right up goes going Sackler, Gino and that and that's the brilliance of it. He he was there to be the straight, man. But if you needed help boom playing a second and not to sound like back in the day. I don't think you'll ever have a guy who does the job that gene did who can do it as well. And that's just as over with the fans as the boys obsolete. You know? I mean now God bless the guys back there. But there's no like, Mike, Rome, t shirts and fans. Go nuts or whatever. But means gene was like a guy from everyone knows me, gene. And they grew up with a meal you so he told me I got to know him pretty good. I actually listen to this. I went to talk about we Marshall was the guy who really when I was managing Awa. He was my guy. Mike he helped me as a guy Heitmann. Yeah. On the wound who got him to come in, and Eric you gotta do something with late. Yeah. And we were we were really brothers. So I was lovely because he would wear a suit jacket. It is in a suit address shirt with like stretch. Sweatpants because only shot him from the waist up. Know that he was a monster bodybuilder back in. 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You know, I had numbers and sunglasses, and this guy gimmick, and he was one of these like g deal, and here's a guy that the craziest output upper. And also that's how he talked in real life too. Gimmick voice was Israel voice. Amy could be Kansas. He could be. He asked to do it. Now. Let's go back about four months. I Bischoff that because they're not doing anything. I had your state of mind. Like, I was ready to go like I'll Natta here. So Kimberly had done a bunch of things with playboy before WW before sable. Yeah. Before any of that, she dumped like blondes boots redhead sites the girl who Chris Cynthia cave was her name. But she was like here in Atlanta. And she was a scout. And Kimberly was so beautiful. She came off amazing. Yeah. You know in pitchers, so she and she wasn't afraid to do the new thing. So she was like four different issues. Right. So they call her up, and I say we want to do a book called so Liberty News. And since she was Dow she's on TV would me go into the ring. Right. So they say they want her and your husband. So I'm like, what do you mean me? And they see he said they want to do something where you're getting ready in the ring. And I'm just about the pull up my dress. You're painting my toenails shots like fun shots like that. So we're supposed to be two pages. Like who's going to be in this Chris? All the people who did it. Got Crawford says offered of course, Jennifer, Geno. Whenever name has the girl who was the big boobs and Jameson, not Jeevan. But Pamela Anderson, just all there's like five big names going to be this magazine. And so we're supposed to get like a two page. Joe Bates back now, and they see it they wanna shoot more. So now, they got being a towel with a cigar. Besides her, you know, so she and she's on all fours doing like a cat lip position. But she's got nothing on right? And so I have to tell her IQ. This is going to come out. Now, the time again, I'm mid card guy. And I'm figuring. Hey, maybe you know, I'm I'm doing it. Right. I'm doing it. And so I tell him, and he goes, oh, you crazy. You have a whole thing. What is it sign where you you have moral clause in your I said, well, you know, what I go. I if they ended up firing me they could fire you if they ended up firing me, bro. Then maybe Vincent do something with it. So Randy s s work with me. And there's that magazine. So they use that as the angle where Randy exposes Kimberly being my wife and that bothers or anything, but that was just the angle that game. And so we we shoot jangle it's red hot. It elevates picks up just coming off tropical N W O. So elevated me to a whole. Different level. So now, we're going to town to town town and every night either. I get lucky enough the couple of guys at the end of your would and escape but both nights I'm getting killed. Get ready. I'm getting guilt. Every night. And then the night before we go to spring, stampede where in Florence, South Carolina. I'll never forget it because we hadn't got to the big buildings yet. They were coming. But this was a building that was you know, books a year out. So no one knew we were going to be in that position as a company at that time. So it may hold nine thousand people there's eleven or twelve in there. It's crazy hot. So I'm sitting in the locker room Randy sitting across the locker room for me and Arnesen Roxette. And Arn walks in. He goes so ready now, he's the agent. He goes, what do you want do tonight? He's not asking me. You went. Think when dick diamond cutter and Arnold was over. I almost thought over I thought you have to understand that me as much as I love him. We had some real heated times quite ornery those days to mail. He was like I recall. Yeah, he did not. He was not a fan of yours. Oh, yeah. She always was. But that was that was also the environment. Oh, we want different. They're like we never got done that we need love. We never really talked WCW Steiner Booker T or giant, Nick. None of those guys. None of us talked. Right. You know, it was different than it was different. It was a different time. That's right. I ended up. I'm just sitting there, and aren't you know, had told me at one point earlier nece that it would in my frustration. You're never going to get that spot because you're not seen as the top guy because unless anyone listing Luger flair HOGAN or savage put you over your never and that's about right? Oh that was it that was it. He said none of those guys are ever going to put you over. So that's on the hinge of this. Now later on our when apologize for that. And you know, it was I didn't care. It was it was motivational moment for me to again, someone tell me what I can't do. So he looked at me, and he was well done. And he goes, I hope you understand what this could do for your career. I'm like, yeah. But again, this isn't the pay per view. This is the dark, you know cameras, but we went out there and rainy was testing the waters. He wanted to see what would happen. And you know, we at album. Match bench. We went home, and you know, him kicking my ass. He went to slam his a could and bang, and it was like a moment of silence that an explosion. And then I covered them. And when he got the three those people went beserk, and it was so loud. You know, what that feels like? But I could hear Randy it. He's looking up at the at the lights went wheel. I guess we knew we're going to do for spring stampede. No he gonna put me over. Gotcha. Like would that finish wake? You know? You've heard that before. And then it doesn't happen. So I just went guy that would be unbelievable. But you know, if it happens thing about savage like I never had the pleasure to work with him. But from what I understand it from what like steamboat told me in that sort of thing that Randy wasn't like some guys that just cared about winning. And and protect you to like, I don't know if eagles the word because I want as an ego. But but being scared to do the favor also wanted to have the reaction. Like right actually wants the best reaction. You let me hit you with that. Yeah. Send the N W O down eventually you because he's still his azoff. You never see him pop up. Like, even when he was up. He was still selling it beat him beat him kick out on the three. And then he's gonna kick your ass. He's gonna take your ask. But it was. If you change in my life and proved to be at that time when it was at its hottest fever pitch for to happen. And again, Noah made that happen but him, so, you know. Almost what what you're saying. You know, my thanksgiving story. No Tele so thanksgiving, I'm getting you know, you can I help a lot of guys get jobs, and I beat her back. Then people be beeping me. Thanks for your for, you know, happy thanksgiving, and thanks for helping me out are going getting bunch of right something like doesn't know that I'm thankful. I know does he knows I know cav- nosers sky. Oh, my net group people, they know. 'cause I tell more time down we tell you how thankful I am to you for what you've done for me. I and vice versa. But I think man Randy how bad he doesn't know how I feel. So I call them up, you know, ransom foam like you. So I leave about which I listen Randy. It's going to come sound kind of corny I go. But getting a lot of beeps guys. Thank you for helping them out. And I'm thinking who am I thankful to that? Maybe on. No it. I got I don't know. I just want you to know that. I know I'm not in this position in my life right now without you, and dude I will never forget happy thanksgiving broach. So next TV no communication before this. Right. So next TV I walk into building. You know, biggest backstage I walked around the corner, and I see Randy. But when he sees me his physiology change, and he starts power walking Duman, Jimmy. And I'm like what the hell did I do? Walk up to him. He grabs me pulls me in this office. He's good. You're miss each year. I did until you listen to it. Couple of times here in the night called my dad, and I played it for him. And I said, dad. Do you need the boys or do anything like this for you? And he said, no, they did he said, I just want you to know. I appreciate it. And he gave me that crazy. But by grandma again, I was like, man. Wow. Thank you. Thank you cost, nothing, please. And thank you, especially in this job. It's funny because it goes across the board even to like promoters and things along those lines like sometimes a Pat on the back in the Bank. You means more than a ten thousand dollar bonus. You know what I mean? And that's something that you don't get a lot of the sincere appreciation because it isn't for June. We're all working together to advance. But it's funny. You mentioned you got guys a lot of jobs as you ever, you probably know this. But in WW, there's a lot of guys that were we we called F O P's FOSS friends of page. But you don't recall them that too. But this guy that that a lot of people forgot about I know you were tight with was was canyon amazing amazing guy. Great amazing guy a little bit tortured. I seem. Because we always we always, you know, not not wanted her care. But it was like I never saw him with the girl. And it's he's probably gay. But you'll never say it. And then you read the book that came out after he passed away, and he was very nervous about about that. And when he told me I was like, dude also. He actually told you keep homing I flew in. We were doing something. I think we're having a match for Jimmy Hart. He did something down in Florida. You're trying to do something with this little pay per view thing they were doing me canyon work together. But we went to breakfast that morning. And he told me I was like. Yeah. Okay. Cool. Awesome. I mean, I I won't be able to be happy in their own skin. And I think, you know, being part of the F O P was positive, but it also could work against you to, you know, people say to me like who's you love working with. Of course, I love work, was savage. I love working with staying love working when you know, so many guys but canyon I felt like I was working with myself except for younger because he he was so fluid, but we, you know, down the power plant. We had worked, you know, so many times working on training. So like rustling in was like, you didn't even have to touch be moved. You know? You know, he was super gifted, man. You know, when it came to kind of reminded me, a Brad Armstrong that was another guy who is crazy gifted in a ring I and super funny in the back. It'd never translate to the camera. I had an idea for him. And he thought I was crazy, and I could have made the people that got behind it. But I wanted them to have a match Vader any gets bodies, you know, power slammed on the ground and he gets a concussion they cart him out the back. And then they go back and they see him. Don't go backward. Brad Armstrong, and he comes up, you know, he could talk like he's from no dead center England with the biggest accent ever be that guy. Then boom couple match later gets hit any wakes up, and he's a brother from frigging Detroit. You know, he wakes up again, he's he's from Nassau Bahamas. He could've done that. I could do them all he would have been greater than it would give him an excuse to to do that. And not worry about why? You know, he thought he thought I was ribbing him. And I was saying, you know, well cited an idea about that would who's amazing guy. Did you get to know Bryan Adams at all? Of course, another hilarious guy. Offscreen how about when he would do? Tiger return home. Tiger Chung Lee chuckling? Kim dhaka's. Yeah. The Japanese guy with the Italian accent. He would do him. I go put a hood over you. We put over you. Do you do that character? And again, he thought I was ribbon that was money. Yeah. That would have been minute. We get over because people would be entertained by. Oh my God. And the guy who work, you know, being the big stronger. Aw. Yeah. That never were never translate Brock lesser. Just shoot. You'll Bronx Bantu you who got me. Let's talk about the end of w w what was that like for you? You're such a tent pole w w one of the faces of the company, but I I got yet another great Valentine's gift idea. If you guys I'm your hookup for Valentine's this year. 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We'll let some of this dust fall. But actually when I when I heard it was bought I came back. Just to say goodbye guy was like put me on that TV give me five minutes. Like in the city or wherever it was. And. You know for me growing up on the jersey shore with the W WWF like everything that was in my soul was I'm gonna end it in a WWF like so for me personally. I didn't know it was going to come with the hate. Did it came with you know, if I left like when you left a right after you left would have been a whole different story. What do you mean it came with the heat WCW hell lot of heat rolling when everybody came in? And everybody came in there. I did not understand that a too, but I was by myself. So so I get it. I understand what you're saying. But you know, however, you did your like I would hear no this is what Jericho does and how we have been if I mean, I wish I went to Jericho school one. Oh, one before I went there because alls that would event is I acted exactly the same. As I didn't WCW. I've thought for everything bro like being Bischoff spreading when he inducted me he act I was really made me feel good that he said it. He said being my friend wasn't always the most popular thing and it worked against him. Yeah. And it did he said it made me work two times harder. No, it may be worth five times harder. You know, because he wouldn't give me like, I didn't even do my last dawn, I never made money. I worked on top for two years. I made two hundred and seventy five thousand dollars Brown W. Yes. Ninety seven ninety seven ninety eight to ninety never went to renegotiate or I was hold the out for WWE. And I would they they didn't want to resign with WWE know, why didn't know what I was going to do. Well, and Eric actually said talk to Harvey Schiller like he knew because he would be really hard on me. Like that. Like, I was not begging. But I was like I deserved five hundred going into that. Because I knew what he's paying other guys. And like, I absolutely. And but but it was it was a no go like Bish was really hard. Here's what Bish did for me that I never really appreciate as much until I was in WW. He protected me. And what I mean by that is when I was getting buried, and I mean, I was talking to Chris Benoit's who I loved it. I know you did to you had a super special. You know, you coming out and sticking up for him. Even though the crazy shit went down. It was used man because that was not the Chris Benoit's. I was not the guy. But I I wanted to help Chris with is. Romo's. So disco. Can't really unbelievable understanding of our business this -absolutely. And when I agree like how to promo what to do. He couldn't really do it himself. But he was a good teacher. I was things he said to me. I wanna go. Yeah. Gonna so I wanted to put him we've been wa Mike he'll make you a real help you become a great interviewer. And when they heard that the bookers. They buried me and bishops sitting in my driveway. We're having beers. Just like Reverend a drink right now. You know, like, we're. Yeah. We're just sitting here having a couple of beers. And he tells me why would you have disco help Ben what I go because he's got a really good mind for the business. And he's really understands the art of interviewing he goes. It looks bad. It looks like you're trying to set this. Ben watt the fail. I go. That's the last thing. I'm doing he goes. Yeah. I get that. And that's what I told them. He said, but you also you have to stop being so honest with everybody, so stop helping people stuff being honest it stop each. It on. And I said, well, I'm not gonna do that. Who I am? Right. People see help at all these people and these amazing transformations. They have no idea. How many people I talk about in talk to on a daily basis that don't get their right, but an eight four down they on their own. They come back. I try to help them again. Right. Like, they don't know. I've been doing that my whole. You know, who you are? That's who I am not gonna change YM. So Bishop was protecting you. But you go to deputy. You're not protected. So that heat is there because you're a WCW guy. And the one thing that I noticed when I first went as well as that, it's the state Vince does not care or even particularly know what you've done anywhere else other than when you walk through those doors. Right. So how much of a of a adjustment was that for you in the beginning. I was treated so well, I didn't see a comment. But then once I got in there. And then I realized at some point he has no idea who I am. I I mean, I wanted I was. Please. Let me show you the Goldberg match. That's what I mean. It's like he has no idea anything that I've done or you've done or Steve went through it. And Chris went through it Eddie went through it. I mean, everybody heck I had no idea. And because you know, I just I just a mad because way was talked how I was talked to and what they wanted. But you know, when it was all said and done I should've I should've stuck to against another time. It's the only other time that I can remember my life that I didn't stick to my goal of what I envisioned my trying to be a wrestler twenty three. And then it turn, you know? I knew I should have been there. Well, I proved it in the nineties I should have been. But the other thing I have is meeting the rock, and you know, what amazing cat. He is. I met him with big show. And we I was we were both in candidates same time. And I we're getting ready to leave means show. And he was you wanna meet rock for you leave? I said sure so we will walk into lock room in you've been there a million times where they the Toronto DJ's play. You don't how big of those locker rooms stadium. So we can walk in and nobody's everybody's gone. 'cause they're beating the crowd right out of there and Jogos. Hey, rock you still here. He goes jam. I'm gonna shower egos. Great 'cause I got some huge Marcus dying to meet you. So I go I pick my head around the corner, and I rock, I go talk to you to bed at seven comes out soup, or you know, at that point. I was there a top world. He was here, right? Yeah. But he's on that rocket. He's on that rocket. He had the big cyber big mullet chops by then the verse Sachi shirts, and you know, and I told him I said, you know, Jake Roberts. When you first came in his rocky, my VA called me up. He was booking then. And he said man, watch this guy rocking my via. He's going to be a used star. He goes he's so pretty I don't know if I wanna fight him. Iraq says. Yeah, that sounds like subjects. Everybody told me, you know, each told me you're going to be a big star. He said he told me in nineteen Ninety-three. He had no right to say that he told me Austin in nineteen ninety five and said, you know, he's got a good is a j does. So you don't you do something where you were talking about. He just started at the rock this in Iraq that and then you went back to being yourself this humble guy. Who's sitting there talking to me? And then you went back in Iraq this Iraq that you went back to yourself. I said that's super cool, man. I said I can't wait to see where that goes. Well, we shook hands start walking out and big show's behind me, and I'm just about to get the door. And then I hear it. Hey diamond and when show gets out of my way, I can see him, and he's putting on one of those for Saatchi shirts, and you could see bitch rolled in the character. And he says, you know, there's only one people. Champion and big Joe's like wall, and I just stared out of and I said, you know, rock, you're right. And you my friend. Well, you're looking at them. I was out the door. Show popped you. We will not got drunk as L at. I wait Kimberly up by coupling. Mike up wake up. I want to go into WWF. Why why alone? I mean, no come on wake up. I gotta tell you this. And Chris I I make her get up, and I tell her they're going to turn off all the lights and originally think Greg Jericho is gonna come. But then it's gonna go five seconds. Ten seconds. Fifteen seconds. Twenty seconds JR is going to say hold on. We got technical difficulty. Ever the first time ever going to hear my voice in a blackout stadium in WWE world. Right. Who's the real people's champion spotlight? You're looking at. Oh, well, thanks, but it came from that. So that was in my head. I just signed the deal would turn her. So it was three years away. Oh that was the idea. So when they can be that stalker idea, I'm like get at sounds good. But instead of saying this. This is what I wanna do. I saw about this idea. I know I do I go I go win about this gap. No, we want this. Now, this is what I learned out of that goes it crushed me for about a year or so that was a bad decision. I made. But I knew that for stars. I said to keep my mouth shut because that was I made no one helped me down, you know, people would try to stir, you know, shit up and I'm like doing I like I made a decision. This Vince McMahon me the most valuable lesson I ever learned as a businessman. When you really believe in something, you cannot be afraid to get up shake their hand and walk away from the table because if I would have done that if I got up a set, you know, Vince, Shane is a great idea for someone else not diamond Dallas page when you wanna do people shabby versus people's champion. Give me a call. I might have got that call but coming up to the elevator. But maybe not I don't know. But I know that that would have been the best business decision for me. But if I could go back in time, and I honestly mean this if I go back in time and said that or failed and not had the career. I should've had there if I have could pick failing and being where I am right now. Like what I've learned from that or having that angle with rock, I would take this every day. I talked about it when they were doing that positively living special. I mean WB I talked about. I said, you know, it would it wasn't the best for me coming here originally. But I knew if I just kept positive attitude. I knew if I just kept talking because I love the company, you know, I know you do too. You have something else going now. It's amazing. But you still love the company. It's very good to you got to your family, everything, you know, I love I love the whole being a part of it. I knew that eventually it would move side. And now the work that I put in would come out, and I'll get you mentioned the career you didn't have the career that you should have had. But that's it's it takes sometimes years to get that respect from Vince to get there. What why do you think that you didn't have the career that you that you should have had Debbie because as we sit here. Now endgame, you're a w hall of Famer guess, so you did get when I say when I say. I decree. I should've had I met the first year doesn't I'm talking about though. That's what I mean. I well, I know why was like. It was WCW. But I also got hurt. Okay. And you know, you can't get hurt. Right. In the middle of all that too. Right. Yeah. I tore my gripe dorm, I'm in nets kiss, you know, almost broke my neck, really bad. And that's what really put me out. Gotcha. So it was fate. I had the most unbelievable career that you could have in WCW. And when my career took off was when we started kicking their ass. You know? So I mean, I couldn't have had a better career. And that's what's great about the WWE. It's every you know, it's Awa ships Georgia. It's it's it's so much of wrestling. And so being part of the WWE hall famous. It's you Jonah for me, and, you know, just to reach the prize, and yet the call or did, you know, it was coming or I get no idea, and we were filming the video, you know, I knew it was going to happen. But at some point, but I didn't know when and it was fifteen years from when I retired, you know. So what did you retire two thousand two because when did you get me two thousand and one two thousand I went two thousand one oh my gosh. You're gone. I was I only wrestled there for six months. Wow. In a month of the I tore my meniscus. Right. I was back in four weeks right torn meniscus like not, maybe the smartest thing. But you know, I wanted to get right back. So I wanted to get away from the stalker thing and be like, I was bringing back the feel the bang guy with the smiley guy this over, you know, and then they were let me go back to be myself. And I know I had that match with Christian and wrestlemainia right in the one goal that I had that I always focused on. I've got a I've got to work wrestlemainia. I've gotta have a hell of imagine Christian J Rezzo is he is. I think he's one of the most. Underrated guys ever agree. I mean, what it amazing hand in the ring, but a great guy to and smart goose sinker, mar and not afraid like you or me not afraid to be. He'll right. And I'm the baby face turning myself. He'll yeah. All right. Let's go. Let's get the baby face over. I'll get my shit in. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. But so that's what I'm saying this. So so at the end of the day, did you only sign a one year deal there I signed a three year deal, but they wanted out of it after one. Gotcha. And I thought I had that million dollar policy. I've been paid for four years with Lloyd's the London you one of those ones right one of them channels. And you know, again, I'm kind of glad that it didn't work out like this. Because once you take that money, you John you can't ever get in the ring again. And I had to prove what my ADP yoga program. This is before you does it called DP by cold yoga yoga's. Okay. Dp? Why? Okay. Is where where I'm branding everything to go. But I really focus on one. I could do in. I took off two and a half years when I let WWE. And I went to TNA, right? I was forty nine when I started working with raven. And I was bumping all what it okay with raven. Right. Right. Right. And not like I used to. But I was still showing like look this program can do like, you're the best example. I think you'll go into your fifties. If you want to, but you're also working smart now, you not working it's a combination of the two, but I'm nicely work. At smart. I mean, you're not working twenty six days a month. No, exactly e- e-. And you're right about that. 'cause 'cause like I said it's one of the things as is this great segue to talk about DDP why? And all the stuff that you're doing with the book and the challenge and all this stuff is was I one of the first guys to come out and talk you're the first one really, yes, it's crazy to me so much now. But but no. But you're the guy how it went was. I remember don't knob. Sorry, you're the segment HP HPK, and I called to ask him about it. Yes. You told me that that's what I did the first very best of nitro. And we're doing it thing where he's going to, you know, give the pig. Not. Yeah. It was originally to me. And I went now. Not doing anymore. I've already been beat up here. I'm either going to be within up at ear undertaker's life. I go I'm done. And they just changing I was like all right. Awesome. So he said, you know, I mean booked around Jericho is coming back and his back is not right. He goes you need to call him. Like, he told me that. And it was cool because you know, he was doing my workouts that I filmed in my backyard. Right. So, you know, just as the segue this. He had told me a little bit about it. Because I had a lot of issues from dancing with the stars of all things snapped of see twenty years of wrestling straw to break. Cavs back. Right, right. And I remember you had called me. And like I said, we we we weren't we weren't not that we weren't friends. We weren't really phone buddies or anything like that. I don't think I'd talk to you in eight years. Whatever was ten years, maybe and you had called me and as the call and you listened to. Trauma yoga program, or whatever. And just as I had listened to your message. I remember the the restaurant is called burger Twenty-one in Tampa, my favorite burger joint. I went to slide into the booth to sit and I was listening to Mexico. I don't know if I'm gonna. Sabally? Right. And was a you know what? I'm calling because I'm I can't I can't take it anymore. Just so, you know, the background of that. And I remember when I talked to was very short, and you actually answered the phone that time, and yeah. And I and I said just watches video. It was say larger right? Yeah. You call me back five minutes later. And you literally said, I will do whatever you tell me you do and five weeks later. I remember you calling back and say on eighty five percent pain free. You know, and I'm addicted to it. And it was so funny. Darius Rucker aka Houdini blowfish but much bigger star now. Yeah. Now countries unbelievable country singer. But he like when he took me eighteen years to get him to do it. And then when he finally did it that's why we noted when he finally did it. He was like man, he was I'm addicted to it is everybody liked that. I said, that's what Jared goes then. Literally was and I and then like you said eighty five percents or five weeks and after three months, which would be probably closer to ten. What twelve max completely pain-free to this day? And that's what you headlined with Bonk. Yeah. And resume. That's right. And that's what I tell people. And then I go he was forty one then and I go he just headlined in Tokyo dome. Not talking about just send to some some interview some somewhere so many great now at forty eight. He's in stole the show into Dokie. Oh dome. I go who does that? I go a guy who's doing the program that's helped keeping him super healthy in preventative maintenance. That's the main thing, but I can even remember from like a Fosse show that we had Long Island around that time two thousand eleven 'cause singing comes from the core. Right. And even that was hurting like even hitting a high note like or boat to sneeze wasn't just wrestling. It was normally singing right seeing. Or sneezing? So it was it went far deeper than that's why soon as it started working. It was like everyone needs to know about this dude, you told I at that point doesn't rose started doing it. Zach rider started doing news like people you'd you'd use hippies doodo come up. And then it went to singers every band members from slayer Corey Taylor Corey day today at this or convention got to tell you this. I met Clive Barker famous horror movie hellraiser. Oh, yeah. Right. Right. And I go to meet them, and I've seem in the corner of the that's quite broker is no offense. He looks like a little old man now. And I'm not sure how old he is. But he used to be dashing like a hot guy and his back. He got up and his back was bent. And I said to his handler what's wrong is he had a really bad back problems. I said can you please? Let me know talk to him. I've got the program for him. Right. It's it's it's a why word that my friend does and it will change his life. And the guys look at him. He doesn't know me from Adam. One of those guys I went to see Queen. I'm watching Brian May walk the stage of he needs DDP. Why someone connect me with Brian May from Queen. So we can send them a thing, you know, through my the highlight of my life, right? This moment has been signing. I just sent this to you recently. And I appreciate you put it out there. Partnership with the NFL um nine. That's so explain what that is. Well, that was just a couple of days ago a couple of days ago, I've been working on for you know, I've been I've been imagining in manifesting it for over a decade, right? But I've been working on it for about the last two years. One of my best friends can't back ler. Who's a big believer in helping turn so many people in the program has life med institute in two Monia, which is right outside of Baltimore. And matter of fact, he's working with brain white right now. He's helping him. Okay. Good and bottom line is he turned so many people into it. He's like date Kyle Richardson, who's the president of the Baltimore chapter of the alumni, I got him during the program. He loves it. I gotta get you guys together. He got me again with Kyle. He put me together with Andrew bald. Newsday chapter president of the NFL night Atlanta. And he put me on the phone with Bart Oates, who's a three three-time got three worlds. You know Super Bowl rings play with center for the giants. He's the president of entire NFL alumni, and we finally worked out a partnership or I take care of the guys. I hook him up. Just like I would do. Anyway, you know what I mean? And I was like I would do anyway. 'cause you know, somebody that needs some help with the famous or not I always Email. You can you help these guys ain't anybody who's at entertainer that puts the work in, you know, it doesn't matter if they're singer or an actor or athlete, you know, who does more GDP y than me rich ward guitar player s I know after twenty years of jumping around with a twenty five pound les Paul and he jumps around like the ads, and he does DP out in the parking lot before every gay because that helped his back. Yes. So it's like that's what we're saying. It's not just wrestling everyday life. And and when when the NFL alumni. When that coming in. So I can I actually put it out there. My, you know, my daughter helps me helps to be but my tweets out stuff. It's all me. But she has here's what I want you to say ball and someone wrote. So these guys are getting free, and I have to pay for it. He goes God they make so much money. So I wrote him back. Some guy's name was ref. I wrote him back pull up don't take exactly what I said to him. Because if someone's you know me, I'm not gonna keep my mouth shut. But I'm not gonna offend anybody. I wanted to know from my heart, and I said Rev what you must not know as many of the alumni didn't make anywhere near the money. The players today. Make those players put their bodies on the line. It gave me many hours of really joy it. It's by way of give it back bright. And he got back to me. He's like, dude. I totally understand the NFL alumni Twitter reposted that Ray tweeted that like I was like. I think maybe watching put them into tweet. Right. Right. Right. Right. So now, you're saying that the entire alumni we have the opportunity to do we're doing something at at the super bowl's this week in Atlanta coming here. And I'm here are deep peel performance centers here. So on Thursday, we're doing something for the alumni. So they can come in. And I've already worked with a bunch of guys. So they're going to come in. Scott hall is going to be there to Jake Roberts is going to be there. Bangles going to be there. If you were in down UTD, I'll tell you the DP performance centers refilled the Judas video, which now has over twenty six million views twenty six million. If you've watched the video it was filmed at your performance center, when you said if you ever need to use this goes the full on studio, if you ever need to use my studio, so talk about earlier, you said, it sounds, I appreciate you. And thank you for long to us that and it is to Nathan Mallory who's done all of our videos. He's the best guy. Amazing amazing amazing director. So it all it all ties in. Let's let's talk about because I know we can talk. But I wanna talk about your book positive and stop and I wanted to challenge. Okay. We're gonna we're gonna put this up the next week as soon as we can't because there's still time to sign up will you could possibly win up to one million dollars. And what he just said. We just said that with the Austin powers. Million dollars. Of mine who sent me a picture like that. One hundred million. But I says one million dollars in only one million only, right. But we're looking for the best transformation physically and mentally like, what did you do physically? We can see what did you do mentally you're gonna need to right. We're gonna have questions bor- also going to have an essay, you don't have the right? It being a guy a kid who grew up ADD dislike six, right? Got to have somebody. Write it for you. You know? But we we give it all the information's all that. If you're going to positively unstoppable dot com there. It is right there. It'll tell you exactly what to do you have to be registered by the thirty first of January, and then it's in sixteen week time. It's not like it's a year. So you sign up in January January thirty first and then February March April so by may thirty first. Yep. So was four months around there. Some. Thirty. I it's done. So whoever are the two people by the way, all North America United States and Canada, the only one we couldn't put it in there as Quebec because for some reason Quebec would let us do it because we're running on no time. So Kevin Owens at Sammy's. And you're not eligible. So bottom line is is that we're going to bring those two finalists in to the accountability. Crib. Which by the way, if you haven't seen resurrection. Go see that still good on Amazon prime and it's on Hulu. And it's on of course, I tunes, but I still own that house. I don't live there anymore. I basically what it is. That's where Jake the snake basically turned his life around from an overweight out of shape. I mean drug addict. Let's be honest. No really would. He is today, which is completely changed. And I'll tell you right now. I saw Scott hall earlier today best. I've seen him also the accountability. Crib. Right. And so now you can stay by the weights Airbnb. The Jake the snake Roberts threes, you're going to stay the razor remote sweet owner DD Peasley. Good laugh out of that. So whoever those two finalists are we're gonna it'll take when we get all every all submissions will be in by may thirty first. Now, it's gonna take a while to calculate figured out. So we're figuring maybe July the latest August. We're going to bring those two finalists to people that have had the best transformation physically and mentally. Don't we aren't even in charge of it. Like, we have a company doing that is going to decide company. We don't have the time to do that. So I hired a company to do that. And then we're going to pick the last couple of people because we're too close to people in our so so the two finalists come to the accountability you'll get flown in. Okay. Put up five star treatment. You'll probably be try might be cooking him something. We'll be filming everything having fun with it. And then we're going to bring them over the Deel performance center. And we're going to give those two contestants each a chance to win one million dollars. And so how can they win a million? Well, it's going to be like the be like a dealer no deal like the books thing. And you get to pick a book the minimum. It'll be like five grand tenure isos we seen instead of suitcases. They'll be book setup. Choose your book, and whatever's inside of that it saying you'll win and you'll get to see where two million bucks. I don't want to know where the book is. I went into nothing to you. Remember Hogan's heroes. Anything? So you know, that's going to be sometime this summer. It's just another thing that we're doing, you know, another fun thing that we're doing gets people involved, and it's all you don't have to buy positively unstoppable. But if you do it's going to help let's talk about some stuff because this is your second book. This is actually my third book. I did yoga for angular guys book with my buddy, Dr Craig Aaron the the yoga dot. But this one is, you know, brainstorm of things that I've been thinking about like this whole time of like feeling talk to what it was Arthur or Vance Hines guidance lost another one another one as your star student hundred ninety eight pounds and one, but you know, talking to them, it's all the things that I get them to understand you understand the art of owning it at a different level. Like I put in. I'm not blowing smoke up your ass. I put the rockets top because he's the biggest star in world. And as far as the boys who are connected you. I me three you're up there, you know, under you, but you're just doing stuff like your nephew, never stopped. And again, you're also forty eight. I'm sick going to be sixty three. But I'm so get so proud to be involved in all the things that were you know, were doing because indirectly crosses over all the time. So the art of owning it, and again, we talked about the rockets second ago, no one understands like him. But he has he right? What is your definition of owning? It is whatever you want it to be, you know, it's like it's that that inner voice it sets store you tell yourself. It's like me starting out saying I'm going to I'm going to work with the NFL in some way. I don't know how it is. It turned out to be NFL Lum night. They need me more than anything when I sat down here in Atlanta for the second time the move back here, I'm going to work with the Atlanta Falcons when I got off of Joe Rogan show. I got a call from Sean who's a strength coach down at WW. Former Senator he said Brooks read wants to talk to you mind, pick up the phone and Brooks vs NFL. Yes. He's a lot of stuff at the. A lot of stuff at the performance center for the WB is exactly. So he tells me that Brooks who plays linebacker, and I know he is actually met him ten years ago when he was in Arizona, but he wants to don't you program. He wants to do your program, and I'm like give me his phone number. I do another thing to do. Something would veterans with Randy tour, which is about a month ago. Ben Garland's is starting up pensive guard. He going over to me goes DP or what you're doing. You know, like, no more about it. I said to my said, what do you do in your off time? He said rehab. I said. I got some shit for you. So this positively unstoppable is more. Is it a self help book? Are you telling stories about your career or a little bit a little bit of might? But the start parts I'm talking about are the universities that I overcame because it doesn't I don't care about the story. There's got to be the story where you overcame something. And then I explained to them how they can do it. But I'm not just explaining my story. I bring in Arthur, and Christina, and so many people that were really on the dark side and thought like there's no help like for argue the barely mobile hardly walk mental even more booth. It's yeah. Like, Arthur when I talk to him, I explained this is important. The dby program is important to eating plan is that's ten percent of the equation, the ninety percents between your ears like the ninety percent is that inner voice. The ninety percent. Is that story you tell yourself a great example would be hall of fame. I hadn't been. Out in front of that crowd in where I'm going to speak, no speak for twenty seven minutes in fifteen years. Now, the story that could have been going through my head home. I god. I haven't been out in front of years. What fortify freeze? What if I forget what I'm going to say? What if what if I'm gonna reaction? What if what if what if I if I or it could have been the story? I had in my brain be best thing I ever done on blow people lay. I wanna make them laugh gonna make cry. I want to inspire them. That's the only voice in my brain. Because I also know I worked for months on that speech. You know, and it's going to be preparation with improvisation. And it's not just me telling people, it's me showing you how you can do it. And that to me is like giving someone the gift of the knowledge like dusty gave me. And Jake gave me giving them the knowledge that they can own. It is whole different level of like crazy satisfaction last. Couple of things I'm looking at the hall of fame. Ring you mentioned it did you have any interaction with Vincent van at the hall of fame. I walked up to him, and I grabbed them in hug them. And if you go back, and when I hugged him, I said bins. I wanna thank you for everything. Because I mean, it going all the way back to our meeting we first met like when I should have done. You taught me that. I do like it made. It made me. I my my business is like I came explain to you how it through the roof. It's continuing to constantly grout. Yeah. It's through the route. And I it's it's because it's real and Vince helped me on so many different levels by watching him growing up as a kid, but. Talking to him. And then just going through some of the adversity. You know, like, I told Cody you gotta fall down. You gotta make mistakes. That's how you become really good. You know, it was time. You said doing same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. That's a definition of insanity. Figuring out. How can how do I change that? I don't think that how do I get better? And Vince taught me a lot of that Vince told me once he goes, he get mad somebody's like, dammit. I'm not just trying to tell you wrestling lessons. I'm trying to give you life lessons, and I learned a lot of life lessons from that guy with all the ups and downs or whatever people think, I don't think he's a genuine smart guy with a great heart. He cares about the people that work for them. And I wish to God. I could've spent more time. Yeah. I really do. But when I got I got was it was great. And I was super you know, inside this ring. And I always tell people this inside this ring. It says work ethic equals dreams. Explanation point daily ace is that is that a custom-made. They do it inscription. You tell them what you want in there guys put their name the date or whatever eight and she went what's her name. I can't think of it the great here woman. Sue, sue, Aitchison sweet. She's been like forty years. I know man. And she goes, you know, never heard that won't put in unit. Scotland. Oh. Last two questions quickly. Is this the truth that you were the guy who drove honkytonk, man and Peggy suit or the ring? Wrestlemainia to wrestlemanias six stick. It was like. Get that. I watched it. I think I see you in the pink Cadillac. So remember, I told you. Jake was the first one that you know that building back game while I'm a huge fan. He comes into my club in Fort Myers, Florida. This is a huge clump right now people, you know, I walk up to him like don't run up because joked or coup. So a you Jake snake Roberts who wants to know. The guy runs this place. Yeah. So what do we drink it? And you know, he didn't make for a drink. Db OSCE shows up after that Bushwacker, Luke, and I become really good friends. So he's at my club. And he's looking at my pink Cadillac. He's like. He's looking he's looking for the hawk talked about on. He won't he wants to have one of the ring. Hold on, Missouri. Cold amid calls public pretty good, right? He wants to Copan could go back. That's a good year. Kiwi. We get some. We on the phone with Pat. Now, you have to understand that Freddie, blassie because of Lee Marshall brought my videotape when I'm in the Awa to frigging Pat Patterson to watch that watches it goes like the kid. He's got a good. Look you've got a good rap. But he's like hundred giant as a manager. Done. Point six foot six four by cowboy boots back. Kevin. So so so he says, you know, you knew I was Dallas. He goes, whoa. How much the car cost? I said nothing if you let me drive it to the ring and fly me up there. He said done. So the car got the gig. I just happened to be driving macabre ship. The cars you had to ship the car up they shipped the car up that was Ronco. That was Toronto. I remember because I bought a pair of zebra skin boots cowboy boots there. I wore them outside of your genes. Yeah. So I used to work through I picture of being my pink Cadillac in my few show pink fuchsia Harley with three diamond dollars ripped jeans in my knees. It's nine thousand nine hundred eighty eight. Sounds like me what were the high school every day with other diamond dolls of the pig? Cattle. So last question for you, man, you've had so many of them is there one match in your mind that stands out to you is your favorite match you've ever had. Or a few of them at least. Well, of course, the savage match would be you know, at the top of the round because of the world title match. Yeah. Sting, and you know for hokey and nature. Boy, you know, nature taking taking the cutter, you know. So I never thank him because being him. We're always I, but I'll always love those worlds. Sometimes. Yeah. I was love them love them, love them. And you know, and and we straighten it out like eight years ago. I saw we're doing a signing together. And he he was the main event, of course, because he just come up the balloon drop and everything and I watched that. And I'm thinking, you know, I never wanted dislike this guy. I love this guy. And I don't wanna feel this way. And I just thought I'm going to try and fix this. So he walked into door. And of course, people swarmed him. But after any sworn to him I was standing there. It's like, hey diamond. And as aim HI talked to her second. He's like share. I pulled him off his side. I said listen man, I knew over the years me, and you have had he he goes oh diamond don't worry about that tonight. So I'm not worried about it. Yeah. I wanna try and fix it. So. I said I said I said, I'm not worried about nature, I won't try and fix it. I said I know that over the years that I've said some things I know you've said some things I go. I'm not what happened I go. Because I don't know how the heat started. Because I love the nature. Boy, I go I don't wanna feel like this. I go would. I love the dues, man. I said I'd love to try and start all over again. I said I'm diamond Dallas page, and I put my hand out and he popped and he gave me a big hug and kiss by four. God bless you, brother. And I never thank him properly for putting me over for that world champion ship title because that was the one you know, that really means the most and going back when I got inducted hall fame. I almost I almost told them when dusty pass because we both ended up in the same hotel. And he came up they gave me a big hug. Introducing the Brenda. He loved my wife, Brenda. I of course. But that night we got drunk as skunks had a great time, and I own most guy was like dusty set that up. You know, was it was way out way from everybody. And we just have to be in the same deal funeral doubt, your hotel for for moral and everybody else downtown we went out there. And what had happened was rice home at lunch when I was leaving. I just said that a waitress who don't want him pay for Paloma Bill. So I left you nobody pays for flare stuff as the guy days. So I didn't tell I come back in from the funeral. And I hear you son of a bitch. Nobody pays for the nature by your drinking and eight nine all night and streaming across. So that night, we got we got pretty ploughed out. And I almost thank them then. But I thought that's going to be like drunk girl calling. You know, not there's got to be another time. And I honestly thought to myself someday, I'm going in all. Fame sunday. And I'm on thank him, then and you know to give them a chance to the thank him properly. What's crazy? Is that on that Monday night? I was getting ready to go up stairs to the hotel room. And he saw me and he called me over to the bar. And he said, hey, so now how would drink? I haven't drank. Lemme goes what time's your flight tomorrow? I said seven thirty. Oh, God who booked that? I go not me. He his tomorrow you still living in Atlanta. I go. Yeah. Tomorrow. You're not gonna take that flight you and Brenda Lear jet. Your flying would me, I'm taking you. And I was like nature. I got all these bags you. I don't care Federal Express. So bottom line is it was like amazing all thank thing limousine Lear jets, and it was my birthday, and what he found out that he wouldn't take me home took me out dinner, your she was really amazing. So that's super special, but the the working matches that on the b- I feel the best about of course, Goldberg 'cause. Gobert was working at a year and a half at that time. You know, what I mean, my favorite match was staying when I dropped the world title to him. And it was the last quarter hour WCW ever one, and we were going home. And the rap goes you got by more minutes, and we're going home, and I just grab sting and thorough. Go go with it any thought I was taken advantage of he was mad 'cause we're going home, and I'm changing the finish outside. Betsy. I start choking. I go we got five more minutes. It was the best because we had worked together. So many times, you know, this magic when you've got someone you work with like that it just it was the best. I think it was. I think it's one of the best matches ever on nitro as far as the height what it meant the world title. I had I went for my finish a bunch of times. He went for his bunch of times. And then right when I went for mine, Adam I add them turn it around. I backed up into corner, and I went to hit him and he held on. And I went to pull them and he held on. And then he hooked in hit me with that drop up. And it was it was a great match. We'll do like I said man, we could talk for hours. And I appreciate to you. Once again, all the studies deny just for me. But worldwide with DP y like you've really made a difference, so positively and stop go sign up because you could win a million dollars. This is not some kind of a work. This is real real. It's real this coming out of your pocket, you gotta count it out and hundreds. Would it? Go get going Amazon. 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Hour 2: Simple Pleasures

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

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Hour 2: Simple Pleasures

"Even in my own home. I had my own designated space to smoke. I think about it. It really was like I was punishing myself friend of mine said why wouldn't you just try the jewel? And so I went out and I bought one the idea of going back to smoking. I couldn't even imagine doing that. I don't think anyone including myself thought that I could switch Caroline made the switch October twenty sixteen make this which at J L dot com. Warning. This product contains nicotine nicotine is an addictive chemical. Bit. A sad news. Mean gene Oakland passed away this morning or today that was that's being reported? I believe it to be true. I wasn't as big of a wrestling person growing up. I was big enough to know me, and gene and just curious like how he sort of resonates like how this passing resonates with you guys or is big on this show. He's been on multiple times. So you're going to get blamed for this one to then. Yes, we're already get started already cool. So Dan, Dan has done this. But does it does it make you sad at all or or? Yeah. Very much. So it makes me feel old. He's like the top and went in terms of like wrestling professional wrestling like interview guys like he's the top. Right. Like, there's no bigger name than meaning Oakland. Right. Yeah. I don't think. So I mean, and I don't think this, obviously, this isn't wrestling. But I think like Joe Rogan is the other name that comes up in terms of the currently the fight game. Or what have you? But. Yeah. No, I don't think anybody else really compared. But we can move on seamlessly to a little game that Chris's created. I believe right. Yeah. Perfect segue because it's a happy game. It didn't really not great timing on us in that aspect. It's simple pleasures is what the game is called. And we don't have imaging for it. Because we thought of it today. But you can just imagine. I think we have news. I think we have a music do that. Basically what we're going to do an all around and say one or some of life's simple pleasure. Can we all just take like one, full deep breath? I in through the nose, maybe vocally out through the mouth, just make sure you get it all out. Roy you're laughing. You know, this this four parts to a breath. Go on. What are they there's part before you breathe the thinking about breathing? Yeah. Well, there's five four tickets because part before you breath, and there's the inhale. The pas in between the inhale next hail to the X hail. It's three and then the part again in between them. So I guess it is four. Part of the start is just not living life. No, no. Pause in the middle or you gotta PA. And then you think about in the helps relax when you know, you got the real good deep breath when you get to like a top of your pausing, you're like enjoying it. And then like the release you gotta make sure you get the whole breath out. You got to do a little bit of pushing to be careful not to have to pass gas in health through the those excel out them. Wow. But sometimes you can do it out the nose as well. It's a calming situation. I know that's how we do it for yoga, Greg. Why don't you go first tell us? One of life's simple pleasures. I'm very ritualised with my morning routine involving coffee, and I make myself a Cup of coffee, and it's almost a religious experience that I sip of coffee. I'm like a sommelier with a fine wine. You don't just sip it. I you use swirl. It you gather the sent you anticipate what it's going to taste like and buddy, the first sip of coffee in the morning to me is one of life's simple pleasures, truly, very nice. Nice. Hey, good. Is he? Well, mine is in the culinary field. A properly cooked scrambled egg. Like, I think every time you ever go to a diner any place that sells eggs regularly man they overcooked the heck out of these eggs. And if you ever go to like, maybe a a French themed restaurant and go there for breakfast or something like that. That's when you get a properly cooked egg, not burned like there's gotta be a little bit of of. I guess like moist nece to it is not just and some people look at it and think it's undercooked. But it's not when you eat it. It's just perfectly done, and that is a very simple pleasure that you don't get all. I couldn't disagree more. I actually prefer my eggs cooked through like I like when there's burn markets haven't had them. Right. Yeah. I know what you're saying. You gotta respect the chicken. I guess. Yeah. I mean, anybody who starts their eggs and cooks their eggs with the steaming hot pan way to Hotman I like cruise ship eggs. I don't know how they make them. But I liked them. You mean at the buffet? Yeah. Yeah. Pretty sure that comes out of a I agree. They're good. But they're probably not what is. You know, Alison talks about ways of making eggs. She said that she saw ordinary Gordon Ramsay. Yeah. That you need to have milk, and you need to cook. It like in a sauce has been one of the techniques that I've picked up she said cream cheese cream cheese from fresh. I believe is what she saying. If it's going Ramsey technique. It's you're basically cooking with butter butter. You take it on and off the heat. Thirty seconds on thirty seconds off thirty seconds in between a little another Pat of butter to really glisten it exit. Yes. Bag, then wait. And then at the end, I think you've salt and pepper it again in the middle. And then at the end to help stop the cooking and also just give the little freshness. A little dollop of creme fresh right on top lovely crack to eggs mix. It twice throw it in the pan and you're done now. Yeah. That's too much work. This is going to life's simple pleasure. It's not that much work. But when you get it. Yeah. This is going. Well, I'm not sure who's winning the I didn't know this was a kind of keep the party going ROY wait hold on. The pleasure though would be someone else making these eggs for yourself. It's so much work for them. I guess you're right. It's so you can either create a simple pleasure for somebody else. If I'm making them either way somebody's getting a simple pleasure bringing really bad vibes. This. I'm sorry. I'm going to know. No, you're bringing Billy. It's normal. All right. Who's mind eating an orange slice? Gone through the work of peeling New York getting the rind off the actual orange peels. Then you break it open. You take the one peel out put in your mouth simple of bliss because these seeds they always pop up. You don't wanna see is going to pop in your mouth as a good point. I usually have the seedless because you have a daughter now. Right. She has that. Can't the seats. Right. That's good. That's decent. I I also enjoy an orange, and I don't I can't remember the last time. I've I prefer, and I don't know if this is a technicality or not, but tangerines aren't they easier to sort of peel. Yes. A little segments of its breeding Bill. Yeah. Yes. I prefer the tangerine. And that's an area are Billy's, still breathing. So I'm gonna go in it over there. I can go. I'm ready if you on it. On it smells breath from here. A full tank of gas knows like onion. Wow. Symbolic. Oh, left fields not last very long though. No. But when you have that full tank, you sit in there, you see it all the way, you see the little thing that tells you how many miles you can go almost anywhere almost anywhere. I agree with them seeing that nozzle go from wherever it was near e and like as soon as you turn the car on. It's just like all the way. That's good. Just got a text from Alison keep breathing Billy because this might annoy you she did say creme fraiche. She never said cream cheese or milk. Their text just says idiots. Roy. That was weird. You're like cream cheese cream Jesus who dollar fine. Isn't it? No. That's that's all right. Here's the winner. Oh, no. When you have a salad. Let's call it. A chicken salad. It could be any protein on it. You're going through your, Sal, you're enjoying it. You get in towards the end. You're like is there any more chicken left on the salad with your fork? You're you're kind of searching through the salad. You're like, let me find just one more piece of chicken. I will make me one more good bite, and you find that piece of chicken. Here's here's where I'm going to agree with you in that it is very much alive. Simple pleasure. Is that one surprised by that one really good bite? But and this is something a partner Anthony has sort of convinced me is absolute must you have to set up your last. You can't just eat willy nilly, and then your last three bites is a bunch of lettuce. But I have to you have to cut my chicken there. There's a salad arrives. I cut up all the pieces of chicken in small bite. So then I threw the eating process. You just you're trying to track of all the plane patients by. The eating process you as the foods here, you got to really work through it. And like, especially if it's a salad, right? And you gotta make sure you get a little candy pecan in there making a piece of cheese with crude and just make sure you have especially the last few bites are absolutely critical the bite that you end on is the most important bite, and you can't just willy nilly have another bite of somebody else's food after it has to be the last thing you consume. What's the opposite of a simple pleasure? Because whatever that is is when you think you got the last piece of chicken, and you're like, this is my last good bite. And it's a crew Thanh the worst run with a crew ton. No, they're good. But when you think you're getting a bite with chicken in it. And it's a crew Thanh now. No. John. Actually, the actually had a a mouth injury on a piece of lettuce. This recently where I think it was endive lettuce on dive, how do you pronounce? I have no idea, and it was like an it had some all sonic vinegar on it. And for some reason when I put it in my mouth for some reason went underneath my tongue. I don't know how I eat underneath my tongue in its stabbed me underneath the tongue. I was bleeding for the rest of dinner and for like four straight days about my mouth was swollen. And couldn't really enjoy food. What the heck lettuce? Let us let us let us on another. What the heck what the heck I think you Bill? That was a nice segment. Do we get everybody in? There's another life. Simple pleasure. Not having Dan around Tamaki about everything. That was the problem or when I was younger to cigarettes three cigarettes. It was it was in the habit. My mom. She was always like you to do something. And to get rid of them. I was hurt thing. As time went on and smoke of started falling out of fashion. It society at rules. Started changing gave the jewelry chance and found by liked it found that it really works to switch was easy was brain Rayleigh. But now that I look at people who spoke on my do Braley still doing that as an alternative to that. Right. You don't have to do that the person that. I'd like to think that I am is because of her this came from her rally. Patrick made this witch December twenty sixteen make this which at jewel dot com. That's J U L dot com. Warning. This product contains nicotine nicotine is an addictive chemical. Donlevatar? And finally the Carolina Panthers have a sommelier on staff. Wine expert, small EA, you want to try one more time. No stugatz. Trying to get them. Can I hear it? Again, the ARA silent. It's French it's French. And finally the Carolina Panthers have a Somalian staff not a small. That is not a Somali is not as Molly Mike, let me here to go EA smoothly. Finally, the Carolina Panthers have a small lay on staff. Perfect PCC with our show with Stu gods on ESPN radio. Get in touch with us through one eight hundred flowers Twitter feed at lebatardshow at stugotz, seven ninety at Greg Cody, and at is Gutierrez, it's time for straight talk. Brought to you by straight talk wireless. Best phones, best networks, no contracts who was providing said straight talk. Greg, cody. No, Greg, Cody did that already I turn to provide a straight talk. I really like straight up. I really like these simple pleasures segment. I feel like we can do that every time. Absolutely. Every time. I'm here as a fill-in because you know, that's the only time you allow me, and they should just put like a picture of a sub sandwich right over Dan's face on the walls here whenever I'm here. Because that would be the only representation of me, just the stub. Thank you. By the way, I'm pimping out my Instagram. So Mr Gutierrez, if you guys wanna follow me, I've already gotten one lovely response from a woman who showed me a picture of her eggs. Hirsch, scrambled eggs. Actually, maybe it was an omelette these elaborate on that. But you know, the simple pleasures man, that's telling you live with them. You seriously? And I think mine was clearly the winner though. I found it interesting that two of the simple pleasures were chicken related. How about that? I find interesting what you find interesting. I also found interesting the the seamless segue back to sports is the reaction to urban Meyer. All year long. Correct me if I'm wrong here. Greg all year long. It felt like outside of Ohio State fans, obviously people were essentially cheering against urban right? That feel that way given the controversy before the season. Oh, yeah. Very much. So in in Nick Sabin an urban Meyer, you you had coaches that everybody loves to hate, and and nobody loved a love outside of their home markets. I mean, just very, you know, saving because he's win so much and his personality and urban Meyer, obviously because of some of his lying and all right great thing to be famous for and so knowing that he was going to retire which was a bit of a not really a shock. I mean it felt like you could see it coming. He's had health issues as well. But obviously the controversy being the tipping point. And I was curious as to how he was going to be received in that final game. And you know, people playing up the quote unquote final game. And I thought people looked at it with like a lot of skepticism not just you know, the. The the reason he was retiring, but the fact that he is going to actually retire and it felt like it was about right, right? Like people were skeptical of whether he would come back or not. Yeah. It's it's hard to believe that a coach in his prime who's that successful is really going to retire. I mean, he's the same guy who briefly got out of coaching to spend more time with his family didn't take long to get right back in it. Now, it's it's a little bit dice here with a health issue because you know, you have to be careful doubting or second guessing, whether he's really going to retire if it is about health, you know, sooner or later, we're going to have a a prominent head coach die right on the sideline, you know? Because he didn't you know adhere to his health concerns. And if urban Meyer is concerned about that and wants to avoid that more power to them while he still hasn't really addressed it or it hasn't said firmly that he is going to retire retire and Tom Rinaldi after the game tried to get him to give a solid. Answer. And he wasn't really budging. Never is a very big word. What are the chances? That will never see you lead another team out of a tunnel. I don't believe I was going to happen. Someone joy tonight. I don't believe I want to coach I don't believe I'm going to coach again, his wife Shelley Smith is saying I want him to retire. It's been enough that doesn't sound like a guy who's not coming back. Right. And I even even if you tell me, hey, I'm not coming back. And then five years later say, hey, I had to change a heart that's more acceptable than just setting up this inevitable ending which is him coming back with some other program. I it's always amazing to me that that we as media, and as sports fans take these coaches at their word in assume that they're not going to change their mind, or the they're not gonna lie in the classic example is why Nick Sabin is hated in Miami to this day is that when he was dolphins coach he says, I am not going to be the Alabama head coach. And then thirteen days later, he's the Alabama head coach well coaches lie. Okay. They lied to take the heat off themselves. They lie. Why to eliminate the distracting questions that they don't want to answer, in coaches, also changed their mind? And so it wouldn't surprise me in the least if urban Meyer coaches, again, I hope he doesn't if the health concern Israel. I actually saw an ugly sweater with the quote from from Nick Sabin. I'm not coaching there. So don't ask me. So quit asking me, whatever the quote was and it was actually really well done. And so that infamous moment he might never live down. And yet he's still, you know, made this much of himself as a college coach again. But the thing with urban which is funny, as you know, how much time has to pass before you think that this guy has changed or what have you or do you think that, you know, people will forget, and you can bring them into a new program. What's that program? Going to be like if he comes back. It's not for some small school that he's going to work his way back up when he comes back. It's going to be for ready made situation. And it's just going to be like do you sell you the typical stuff, but you sell your? Fan base on. Oh, he's he's different. Now, he spent five years away. He's no longer going to support, you know, domestic abusers in in his coaching staff. Like what has to happen for t- for team to be like all right now is the time. I'm going to sell my soul urban Meyer. First of all, I don't think what he did is is going to be seen as felonious. It was a terrible thing. He did. But at the same time to put it in perspective. It wasn't urban Meyer committing the crime. It was urban Meyer. Ill-advisedly protecting one of his staff members, which is bad and deserve the suspension. He got but is not the same as him doing it himself. I don't think there's a top college program in the country that would not be interested in at least speaking to urban Meyer, if they had an opening in if they thought he was amenable the coaching again, do you know, what he's doing what he's going to be doing in the short term, at least relaxing seeing. Dr. I dunno. Now, they touched on it on. I take this morning. And here was the reaction urban liable now becoming assistant athletic director at Ohio State. He's also going to be teaching a class on character. And no. Did you make any Jesse right now? No, that's exactly what's happening is going to be teaching boss that was the live reaction to what urban Meyer is doing. They all just found out together. And the immediate reaction what everybody's reaction would have been is absolute laughter. Donlevatar Stu gods is the physical manifestation of the comments section. Come to like, do you agree with that assessment that you are a common section come to life one hundred percents? It's. I wouldn't take such pride in that do. Stugatz. But I want you to imagine Stu gods. Rising up from the gutter like what you're looking at right now is a gutter only a gutter. And now it starts as a face and the mouth gets bigger. And it just keeps growing and then just shout springs. VC's libertas show with Stu gods on ESPN radio on here. Funny tweet. Did you see the the beef going on between university of Florida and UCF is they're trying to sort of set up? I think a two for one or something like that series where they play in Florida twice at in Orlando once I think gets the deal. And so here's a tweet from the rowdy. Reptiles of Gainesville says roses are red violets are blue are we national champions because we beat LSU. That's pretty good there. Right bad. You can't claim a national championship and lose to game lose to a team if somebody else lost to also did you watch the the near death that we had via a mascot. I know. Chris is well aware of what happened here. But is it beaver be VO the mascot the with the bowl with the horns the deadly horns at for some reason is that the sideline of a game nearly impaled a reporter or photographer rather as it was what going after AGA? That's right, the helpless little bulldog. This is insane. I don't know why this isn't getting more attention. Why is there a full grown bull on a field? Did you see this gate that it was being protected by you call that a gate like I like, yeah. That's something. I would like my wasn't even contain my one year old that thing. No. And I thought this before when there are LSU has Tigers on the field in a cage that other players are mocking. And you've probably shouldn't mock an animal like that. This is a tradition that has to. To end before somebody catches a horn through the ears before somebody catches a horn. This is kind of ridiculous. Even remember when a when Uhde almost bit a player from the opposing team that was square near that was frightening. I mean, why is there a guy pretending to be an Indian with a flaming spear on an app Eliza at midfield. Why is there a covered wagon at Ticonderoga covered wagon on the sideline? It's not just the bull and the and the dogs and everything it's like throughout college football, these crazy mascot, and you have that one. Is it a chiefs player who's deathly afraid of horses? Right. Have you seen those videos? Barry, I it's just no not that horse. And he's like, I don't know why we need all these animals like we have as Dan likes to make a point out. We have soccer players playing football. Unnecessarily? Why do we have animals on the field, necessarily totally? I mean, I like the the the inflatable or the fuzzy mascot, you know, the guys inside of the costumes not the actual animals. You don't want us really dangerous is the mascot for Colorado the buffalo because they get these guys running alongside at this Buffalo's charging like he is on Iraq forgot about that. I thought you were going to say the Florida am Rattlers because rattlesnake. Now, the Rattlers because it's rattlesnake. Yes. It was really crazy. There was this one shot because the initial shot that I saw on TV live or on Twitter. You just see the dog and he's sitting and it's like, oh, let's keep that's the dog. And then all of a sudden you see these horns. But then there's another angle where this Bevo his right horn almost like crushes this one photographer this lady, and she looked like she just must have felt him coming because she ducks. And as soon it and end she kind of looks around like I just got to capitated by bowl. And then she just gets right back to pick. It was really impressive. I almost just died. Wait, that's a good shot. Let me get back to work. It was really impressive. We should investigate the history of of what we're talking about. Because I remember the the Miami Dolphins when they were an expansion team in sixty six they had a a live dolphin nicknamed flipper in a tank in the end zone like if you caught a pass just outside of the end zone. All of a sudden, you're running into a tank with a dolphin in it, he got stolen and then as Ventura found him, right? That's exactly right. That's exactly right. And I'm wondering does like what's the origin of all this in colleges and everything how how many decades does it go back because I don't know. I believe you forgot what show you're on. When you start a sentence with we should examine what we're talking about. That's not what we do here. No. No, okay. They don't examine anything just talk about it. And hope that they're right. Also, Greg did you know, I was making a movie reference there digital as fantastic detective? Yeah. No comes that. Actually based on a true story. It was not know why did you say you act like I was because it was about that. I was making the Joe that ace Ventura rescued him. And you're like, yes, he did. We'll Jim Carey. And Dan Marino starting that movie. And I believe they did rescue a stolen flipper. Oh, I know those related to that. What's happening? I mean, he just made out of the star of the movie he was it was his best role yet. Kabir was in that movie to what really what the Kim Bo camper shirtless in the shower one point you had to make tell everybody and was checking the looking for the stone. I did not move. Somebody random references here and his wild. I would like to get this nothing that other people understand what we're talking about rather than random Johnny Carson. References are Bo camper? References desires restaurants here called Bo campers down in south Florida. But have you seen what James harden doing lately? Nice segue. I mean, there's no such thing here. What the heck playing basketball? I mean, it's really interesting to think about James harden sort of the the bigger picture, right because. Right. So it's regularly stated that the top two shooting guards in the history of the league are. Anybody D? Wade. No Kobe Bryant top Jerry West. Ooh. Okay. Let's just say top three are Mike Samson. I'm Jay, I'm sorry. I did not know if you wouldn't be prepared for that answer. I thought it was more obvious MJ and co Miami Heat fan are the top two. Yeah. MJ essentially an argument for dare Jerry West lashed, Wayne wait, like some people put Jerry West there. Some people call them a point guard who knows some people don't know what to think of Jerry West because they've never seen him play. But Dwayne Wade is normally in that conversation is a lot of people. Just spit it out sometimes third best shooting guard of all time Dwayne Wade's never want an MVP. He's been tough three one time. He's never wanted. MVP? James harden has won MVP James harden is now working on a streak of what is it? Eight straight games. Eight straight games of thirty five points or more. Doing it, obviously. Without Chris Paul now that he's got this hamstring injury. And people are comparing the stretch that he's going through now to Coby, and he's already talking about, of course in the conversation for a second p. So if James harden does that wins, another MVP does he sold all of a sudden leapfrog all these other guys into the second or third best shooting guard of all times, not that, you know, the classifications really matter. We're more position less than ever, blah, blah, blah. But if you ask somebody, hey, you get one shooting guard Dwayne Wade in his prime James harden right now in his prime who are you picking? And do the numbers really matter for you. Well, you know, you think of James harden as the the offense of guy who doesn't play defense. Whereas I think you think of Dwayne Wade is as more of an all around player, but you look at their career stats James Harden's career scoring average is one point. I think one point two points more than Dwayne Wade's. It's not like a huge disparity and. In the championships do factor in and and you know, LeBron's champion because of Dwayne Wade you could argue that it's the other way around, but I think of Dwayne Wade as being a better all round player who's just about the same score. As James harden. He's one one scoring title to hardens to so. And this is the thing that gets me though, because MVP's apparently don't matter as much as rings because Steve Nash went back toback MVP's and people probably go a few before they get to Steve Nash as the all time great point guard, or what have you? And if again, if James harden was a couple of MVP's, but no rings than he was deemed veep. Best player twice in a league that has LeBron James still playing at a ridiculously high level. Kevin Durant playing at his level. Steph curry changing the game. Like, why is it? Then do we just overvalue the scoring then? And that's why he got an and the actual number of wins in a regular season. Because if that's the case, then they're not really that Val. Valuable in terms of arguing somebody's place in the all time ranking to me, it's like any other sport, you know, the the lack of a championship ring is a stain in whether that lack of a ring is is on you or on your lack of teammates. It's just there. It's indelible. It. We see we saw it with Dan Marino in his career in Miami. You see it with Charles Barkley in. You know, the lack of a ring matters aesthetics when it comes to James harden because James harden was scoring forty straight. But don't hang on people every third basket or shaking people, and like, you know. Shooting that fadeaway Kobe used to and just having people like his main move is the step back sometimes double setback three pointer. And it doesn't really get you and on. And then you get all the free throws that people think are annoying because you know, they don't think he deserves about him even though he definitely does. And I was reading somewhere where his greatest skill is decelerating like stopping on a dime. And it's just nobody's ever said. Ooh, look at that deceleration SO. I think a lot of the stuff about James harden is like again, if Dwayne Wade had done this the way he scored with the athleticism and everything else. I think he'd probably be leapfrogged Kobe even because we put such a value on scoring even though he did win a scoring title. But he hasn't done like the thirty five thirty eight straight games of of. I'm sorry. Eight straight games of thirty five or more points. I wonder if it's also a likeability factor. I'm curious what you think because in my mind, unless James harden is wearing your uniform, and you're cheering form, he's not he's not exactly a likable player. Whereas Dwayne Wade and we're seeing on on his farewell tour this season. Wait, wait is is pretty much beloved outside of Miami. Even more James harden talk next donlevatar toward and got selfish and decided to want to go to us and be the guy, and I told you when he went there. He's never gonna win a championship. He was more concerned James harden about being the best player on a decent team. Then he wasn't being the third best player on a legendary team. Stugatz. James harden and the beards enough already who's he with a beard. Hey, trying to be different. I guess James hard of the beard. It's seriously the beard when I think of James harden, I won't think of anything other. I don't think it championships. I won't think of winning. I won't think of one of the all time greats. I'll only think of is ridiculous beard hard. Beer should be ashamed of themselves. DCC's live at our show with Stu gods on ESPN radio. We'll get to Greg Cody soup. We'll call it stupid the year because it's the first of the year. But also because he did one last year the same one probably. Yes, similar. We'll get to that. Next segment. So if you're sitting at home with your recipe book empty page on the arrest people reading to write this down. I mean, do people do you think actually do that you'll have a handwritten recipe, but oh man not not nearly enough. No. Yeah. I did a back in my day on that. Once the lamenting the absence nowadays, you just print recipes online or don't even have to print them just or with your fright or. Yeah. Or maybe you have a cookbook if you're real old school, but you know, back in the day, they were handmade homemade recipe books. It was great hang on a second. Because of course, Billy has questions. Well, here's the thing that confuses me about Greg because earlier Greg was talking about how much he likes the voice to text app or whatever on the. Phone where he just talks into it. And I always took you for a man who likes handwriting things I like both. I like the convenience because I hate texting like, I generally don't tax because it just takes me so long ago like that and type in words with my finger. Whereas if I can just say something, there's a convenience there that I find utilitarian, you know, it helps me when's the last time you wrote a letter to someone because we found out today. Also that you don't like the mail because you don't like paying to mail things to Pete, right? I. Mailed a letter to a one hundred and five year old woman who had mailed me a fan letter, and she and excavators. That's good. And and I mailed her back and met her went to meet her and in and she passed away fairly recently like a year after I did all that. And so that was very happy. That was the last letter you wrote then. Yeah, it was like a year ago. So those were thirty five cents worth spending. Right. Oh, yeah. When you actually do send a text using. It's by your own choice of word using your own finger, right? Do you just use the one thing you? So you hold it away from you use your one index yet. Yeah. Those. Yeah. I don't buddy injuries. I don't follow. It very dangerous. When when people like yourself, also decide to text and walk that is way too dangerous. I don't do that. Yeah. We'll fix and drive or walk tell you know, like, you know, when you get the people when you look they're driving really slow really cautious and you turn and look at them. And they've got the hands on ten and two o'clock, and they're really close to the steering wheel. Like, you know to stay away from that person because they're a nervous driver. You gotta stay away from the people who text like that with the one finger really slowly if they're doing anything else. At the same time. There's no chance they can get it done safely. James there is nothing more frightening than looking driving and looking in your rear view mirror and seeing that the person right behind you is obviously on the phone while they're driving up. I will actively make an effort to get out of that lane. Just to avoid what what could be a collision we talked about this a couple of weeks back. Speaking of his weird texting. He's a professional writer been writing his whole life. He the head. He types on a computer with pointing finger. Hecker and he's a professional writer. Yeah. But you got the speed down. Right. 'cause I don't really wanna mock anybody's typing techniques because I put my hands on there like I'm typing normally, but I really only use my index and middle finger thumbs like, I don't use these two. Okay. Yeah. No. I probably sixty words a minute. Just you hunt, and peck, and that's how you know you've been in the game for awhile when you know, how many words per minute when people still measure that like it's your forty time. Right. That's right. Well, I'm guessing, you know, could be fifty eight could be seventy. Really quick. You asked me a question on James harden on the way out you were asking me about like ability. I think that's a contrast that that makes Dwayne Wade maybe better and people's eyes than James harden is the idea that one's pretty pretty darn likable unblemished. And and harden, not so likable. I don't think like ability matters. I think like I was saying before it's about your style of game. Right. I think the way you play makes you more likable like Kobe Bryant, you know, up until maybe two years after the rape trial. I don't think he was that likable. People didn't really love the fact that he tried to essentially copy, Michael Jordan with everything that he did. And then on top of that he was getting in trouble in the middle of you know, a famed Lakers era. I think it took them a while to get back those fan, right? Yeah. But with Dwayne Wade and you'll recall this he early in his career. He was one of the most acrobatic players in the league when? When he would drive to the ba-, everything was airborne attacking the rim. You know? It wasn't always just the the the pump fake jumper back in his early days. He played a very exciting style of game. Yeah. Right. I mean, not that harden doesn't, but the and the other thing is harden is just so notorious for bad defense that he seems like an incomplete player to me. Well, that's another interesting part to because while Dwayne Wade did get a lot of credit for obviously being the best shot blocking guard. I think in the history of the game or what have you best four and under four hundred. He he got a lot of stuff for arguing with officials a lot on the way back and never really playing defense and transition and sort of picking his spots on there. And to me, that's just something that if you don't like the guy, if you're not a fan of James harden, you're gonna point to all that stuff instead of pointing till you know, the things that got him an MVP trophy and make them unstoppable score. I don't I don't disagree with that. I think LeBron and Dwayne have made a career out of like Moonies Dan's. Greg Cody on ESPN radio.

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ & Travis (HR 4)

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

51:27 min | 1 year ago

Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ & Travis (HR 4)

"Ooh I six hours. We are sixty nine hours away from E._S._P._N.. O._C. Week off sixty nine high come on kicking off day at Casino Resort and hotel in Huntington beach. The morning show begins at six A._M.. Monday morning right there on the ocean so last break. We're coming back talk about the Jewish hours away E._S._p._N.. Week begins Monday morning at six A._M.. Beach for all the events the entire your schedule hit us up on the social facebook institute twitter at E._S._p._N.. Los Angeles yes tomorrow. I'm a cool guy. See I wouldn't out you I I wouldn't I wouldn't I wouldn't talk about what you you just talked about with me. During the but earlier we did talk about greatest TV shows of all time and in my top five that's not the right thing. I wanted to last week and that's Kinda better the West Wing. I guess WHO's birthday it is it's who mark Jean Bartlett Fresno partly wow guy what I would do for president barley right now. Oh my God I'll president Bartlett Anytime I'll take president borrow you know we play Golf Dobie so Richard Schiff yeah it was just on Mason's podcast produces podcasts. It was amazing just to hear them talk for an hour and Richard Career. Richard Shift Plays Golf with John Van you amount gate that's right. If he's on the golf course right now. He just threw club by the way he just threw another club speaking of outing you remember remember the last time you filled it on the morning. Show it was a couple of years ago. It was and then we didn't really want you haven't had to wake up early and then you came to be a few weeks ago when Danieli Hey Chris. I'm like Okay Ben Roger in the morning show. It's all great. I'm like okay. Hey I'd like to get back on the morning show. I said I said no problem but you're GonNa have to take me to get mountain gate eight to play golf time first of all part of the deal so you know so many challenge flags on the field hosted back days. You've done a better job than you did two years ago. I'll I'll give you that thank you. I appreciate that so. When are we want to get you? Let me know with your busy schedule per se oh you're down a black all down Travis at the Roger Done and E._s._p._N.. O._C. Week Al Well. She's trying to play some golf with you toby and John Ireland Toby Down Richard Shift from the West one year. Oh you Chris might not make you feel so good at this moment. I'll play golf with anyone like literally. Anyone don't play golf on my guess. I'm down literally. I'll go play golf with anyone. So I played mound gear summer. It was the day in the middle of July one hundred nineteen on the driver Maria and Phil Tall my gosh so doing it in the fall would be nice nice Tuesday after Monday night football game Tuesday after the show that sounds good. It's a marker. How's your golf game well? He was asked swing tips during the break working with the all. I need to know all right. Let's go back to G._M.. David Griffin and his ridiculous. It's Lebron slander unbelievable that the King King James is being questioned to move to Los Angeles that he would not be focused just on winning but this moved to Los Angeles might have him distracted and thinking about movies or raising his family or setting up the next part of his career. Now no no no. He's only here to win. Why won't David Griffin understand this? I mean this is what Kyle Kuzma had to say about Lebron this news ready. He's ready. You know <hes> you know. I think this year this off season you know you see people you know slander and his name saying this about him saying ah but <hes> you know he's been he's been super-motivated this off season. You know working you know between you know shooting movies and you know he's in the gym amusing Jim early night. Whatever so you know just you know smell locked in? You know that's the biggest thing talking about being ready for it. All what does that mean. It's the most overused phrase being locked in being locked. It being focused just remembering the main thing the main thing the main thing and that's the one that championship kinship that's being locked in you know every other thing you talk about should be championship these unfair for us to sit here as fans of these professional athletes and so you know Lebron should not be celebrating that go Tuesday Lebron beat his games should be locked in and championship well. I'm not saying that you shouldn't be like that's the only thing you do but I mean mentally focused on the season mentally focused on winning yeah. He's locked in. I mean that's a teammates saying that so so. Are we saying these line. No I'm not saying is lying. I just love the idea of he's locked in. He's making movies. It just shows you like these guys in the game of life that's right and that they're not going to be consumed with basketball twenty four hours a day I it's not healthy and it's actually not the fastest way to a title so like let's have them some life balance some family some off the court interests that can then motivates you to want to be on the court. I don't know this David Griffin stuff is really confusing to me as to why he would go on record in sports illustrated after the fact two years later saying it wasn't fun with Lebron. He wasn't as focused on winning now the way I don't get it either I don't know where this is coming from a why he's doing it now or what the end game is for him <hes> but like I said before this is the wrong arena to challenge Lebron. You know what I mean because he's still playing. He's still out there. He still has a chance to prove you wrong and I would say there's a good chance he's going to <hes> this will not end well for you with these comments. If you ask me you know and it's not just him dominating you know he's got Anthony Davis now so if he if the Lakers here's come up and become dominant again become one of the teams in the West Lebron wins you who's also. I'm noticing about this. It's a good <hes> situation for the Lakers because that game versus the Pelicans Anthony Davis returned to New Orleans. It's going to be circled. We'll now that actually take some of the hype hype pressure off of a deal moment and now it's about Lebron showing David Griffin what's going on in that motivation name yeah. Do you follow a wrestling. Get it all at once the rock kind of team vision to dwindle tiny bit re read about more. You know what a work is right. It's like manufactured heat manufactured conflict. It's like okay. Two guys were friends and then all of a sudden one guy turns on the other mega-powers exploding wrestlemanias wrestlemainia five right right with Hogan and Macho man were battling for Queen Elizabeth. That's what this seems like right before the N._B._A.. Get started you know when when you'RE GONNA have to compete with all the other sports as of right now this is David out your as mean Gene Oakland or like bobby the brain Heenan like <music> firing people up but why but explain why he would do this now two years after why would you start this now. I came out of the Blue K. E._S._p._N.. Los Angeles. I have no oh he would say this now and I have an missing is Jim Ross and sources close to Lebron telling E._S._P._N.. That they're shocked at the characterization of James James by Griffin James Seemingly addressed the Griffin story on twitter in classic Lebron fashion not mentioning him by name saying all right time to fogy or ether to la La like when pallbearer turned on the undertaker why you know why all of a sudden <music> why I got to meet that Guy Shrimp Buffet at Wrestlemainia Ondeo who you've met with no shade no no shade. I'm impressed you meet. You've met some dirt in rockaway. You tied into the story guests. I said his name actually isn't pallbearer. Shrimp boy does have a chance. You know what I felt your arm you know. I hope you're right here I did H._R.. No coal to be talking about somebody's fat content Homey I mean I don't remember it so in the future. If you Jerry our to stop jiggling might just a freak buff on yeah I'm done with you might be done with this <hes> hope and prayer dream. I have of Carmelo making get it back to the N._B._A.. Because he was on I take with Steven A. and he got into all bunch of stuff and it sounded like a lot of complaining mellow here he is when he was asked about the idea of coming off the bench sh- I wasn't willing to accept that because that never was explained to me if you sat down with me man to man and say you know what was best with his team is for you to come off the bench. I would afford it a a little bit but then I'd have stepped away from this say you know what this is. What's best for the team I went to I went to billy Donovan himself and said what do I? I have to do right. What do you need from me and everybody can vouch for that? What do you need from me? What do I need to do? He told me I said look thank you. I appreciate shaded. This is what you're going to get for me to play better. Maybe he was terrible in Oklahoma so I didn't like all the complaining and you guys know. I love Melo as much as anybody and here was this sues as Raj Shah. Here's the money side. This is the money sound bite here. He is talking about if he was asked to play or wants to play with Lebron the clippers or the Lakers anyone we reached out to a lot of people have the lake has been one of the Lakers has been one of the clippers been one of them clear with me. Clippers has been one <hes> teams as we we we reached out we talkin is is dialogue with certain teams. I don't WANNA get into specifics but there's conversations but I think for me now is it was just a matter of me. You let everybody know where met right physically mentally emotionally like this as well Matt. I WANNA play basketball. I still love the game of basketball aw I don't play. This game fulfilled to I'm ready. I'm ready to get back on the team. I like that last part. I do play this for a farewell tour that I don't different positions but just the question Shaun Livingston off the bench or Mellow off the bench what's more effective. Give me Carmelo Anthony but he he asked to mentally it sounds like except that is what is being asked of him and I guess it's hard when you're a star of that caliber and you read the tweet right. Glenn Robinson went out with a championship five Spurs. They've got a lot of guys rings on at the end Steve Smith yet but I'm just saying you know here's a guy that accepted his role brought his talents to a bench role and they WanNa Championship. Tell me Carmelo off the bench fifteen minutes a night doing what he does best scoring. That's all you need them for. Tell tell me that wouldn't be desirable zero world. Is there an alternate universe where let's say it's deepen may maybe even if it's mother's Day and you're watching the N._B._A.. On the E._S._p._N.. And you here Mike Breen Bang Carmelo Anthony for three the Lakers go of nine time out rockets like does that world exist. I don't alternate universe. It's like you said it's all within his control and I think this is the first part of it here. He is when asked if he wanted to play with his buddy but Lebron James One two thousand percent above we we talked about as we was eighteen nineteen years old talking about that for a long time to seventeen years now sixteen minutes long time. I got some best friends loving the death wouldn't want him to be teammates one thousand serious. I wouldn't want you as a teammate love you to death. Would Oh you do anything for you. You know so we'll Carmelo end up here in purple and gold. I don't know but I have to be honest. I was so looking forward to this interview this morning for for a lot of reasons and I'm pretty disappointed because it just sounds like it was like a lot of complaining here. He is talking about his time in Oklahoma. I really honestly wish to okay see situation would have worked out. Oh I thought it was gonNA work out. This was compensated at me saw Russ we had every seen why do you feel it did not work out. I think it was again again. I think it was bigger than basketball. I think it was it was a tax situation right but I think they knew that of me coming in there <hes> they were trying to get me to <hes> was on one accord. It was just everything that was happening. Everything else somebody else. They didn't explain to me and my taxes. We don't your taxes. What is that like? I love love Mellon alum so much. That sounds like a lot of finger pointing as opposed to. I don't know I shot two for seven and elimination game on the road in Utah Yeah. Would you take less to win at this stage of your call. Oh absolutely I mean just just you personally personally take less to win. I Take College credit to be here on the morning shows. They're winning so that to me would turn me off if I was any other franchise. That's still says you put yourself ahead of winning. Sometimes you gotTA sacrifice it. which is why when Steven went through the rest of the banana boat crew was like you know D- Wade's been in the finals five times been there nine times like where you been there in his defense mellows defense I have heard in you know there's been players? Love Him of course Stephen A. I'm reading something that we didn't play but he said I said Hey. What do you think C._p._i.? Three and hard and tried to get you out of jail. He tried to get him in and mellows like no metal had nothing to do with them but locker room wise. They love when Your Team U._S._A.. Like he's like the team leader. Everyone's everyone's like as anybody gone public defending him yet besides yeah they'd gone public defending him but not so far as to say hey get him on recently. Has Anybody come out strongly Camila well. Let's see after this because we really haven't well twitter's immediate. Yeah I can't hear him. Can you yeah you disappeared. I turn my mic off there. You go okay. Let's see how this works the White Guy Looking at me because I really want. I was locked in. They say what you were gonNA say. After this warrior was gray so I was like what is he saying guys looked all engaged in the you're nodding instead of and I'm talking to kristen all right so after this interview we really haven't seen in front of microphones like a professional setting an official setting and go on record to say certain things and respond to certain questions and answer questions we had let's see now who defends or who criticizes him and what about the fans Selo. What's been the reaction of the Joe Public so far? A lot of people are showing them what they want on a team. They realize oh wait. I know I've been trolling him heckling him being a jerk saying funny thing always a ten time all star and a three time mm-hmm Olympia. Oh six time Olympia surprised at that time all N._B._A.. Six Times six mellow six people are realizing always he actually actually is really good. It would be cool to see him. Get another shore was really good but we have to remember that another shot or a farewell tour no he ain't flavor fell wear. How many many shrimp do you think you can eat in an hour to mark? The Marco just shot me in the face with NERF gun straight up no lie he's in the studio and he looks over at our the morning show in this in our fun buck yeah we are toy box basically and then we have the Arctic Arctic Cooler where we keep our scientists up so he's putting on like the crown the crown he's looking at the guerrilla ahead and all this stuff he pulls out the NERF gun without I don't understand what Oh possessed you to aim at towards me and then just pull the trigger. I didn't aim it towards you. I just ate away in the face aimed it away from me and in his his response was okay snaps. I'm sorry meanwhile Christmas Chris over here bleeding now it's north but a close way has been. We had a discussion this morning here. Okay you know how not to get too. That's why oh you just don't need them now. Then comes getting from that anyway another <hes> sell out song from metallica another one little sappy host getting Rogers world you you can't make money off music soundtrack cruise down to Osi when I bon Jovi. You'll get the Mustang rental car and you get the win. I'm okay Bon Jovi. Does this all stop it. That's fine for them. Stop it but not when you're METALLICA and you go on tour tour with slayer and then you coming up with this crap he's not coming up forever and never revolve knows not saying over again. Never play arenas. Never I've never played in arenas whenever metal never have to do this never tapping into your emotions here. It is only play music. Raj likes rush does play the Bass Cliff Burton. He's not alive. No he passed away metallica birthday. That's how we got on this today. Eh Hatfield yes fifty six years old singer and guitarist and I hope he celebrating today by only using those enter stanhope is using things not does enter Sandman residuals. I met Him we talk. Oh don't we have the same his we are sports psychologists. He's in that movie some kind of monster he was with us us with the Rams and ninety nine and then he got hooked up with Metallica and brought the band back together so he's in that movie Oh so wrought out I got to see them backstage talking to head field about having neck surgery I said. How did you hurt your neck? He said head banging. I said that's commitment. You know what I mean. That's commitment to your art on a few people then hope there are okay so do you still see the sports psychologist every now and his name is Phil Toll Great Guy. You still see the sports nutritionist the one that's complaining about hitting the neck with a nerve Dr Neck. We were recording no. I wish you were just holding you know doesn't happen with Num chucks. I know what I'm saying. No only those in a few months ago it happened in the other I ran into shoot L Z but I missed kind of and it hit the board. I hit him in the eye. Shoot your yeah. That's right. It's right here because I break. It was asking Raj if he was the second break or not GonNa talk about it third break people get shot. No one's going to have the four I._S.. Rajas as you. Are you black black you back not just black black black black black black brother can't like different music. Uh the next week how Travis key and L Z will return Monday morning as we kick off E._S._p._N.. Day One at the resort and hotel in Huntington Beach Day to an L. Thereto at the block of Orange for the block is now the outlets at orange for Taco Tuesday one song Tuesday Wednesday night. We're going to be a medieval time well in the that morning. We're going to be doing that for real yes. You'RE GONNA have a sword fight. No jobs that day morning we'll be at the party house. The WHO's who's going to have the sword fight and then Wednesday night mason into key. You'RE GONNA joust or Tequila win now. 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Everyone go crazy well E._S._P._N.. O._C. Week a a little under sixty nine hours sixty hours change nice. Sorry for shooting you. What's on the rundown shop in the face shooting you? I'm sorry that's not cool. I Apologize DEMARCO. What about that Trent Williams story? Though is that you ever seen someone hold out due to the medical staff. You know I've I've never seen a guy put himself or put the training staff between himself on the team. I've seen a lot of people mad at the training staff are mad at the team doctors but not to this extent to where an all pro or a pro bowl tackle isn't coming to camp because he wants you to fire the training staff kind of Colli Leonard did in San Antonio but he just didn't come out and say anything because he's quiet hi Leonard he basically didn't like the assessment on his quad injury that the team Doctor Games we went and saw his own private doctor and they told him something else and he was like you know what I don't trust the prime of my career here in San Antonio so I'm just chilling and they four four citrate versus way out way out Williams had a had a growth on his head yeah the doctor Battaglia. Oh my God one nine eight numb serious there was a growth on his head that was Raja's to something like that there wasn't properly treated and that's I guess the crux of his argument or something like that with the redskins Yes oh so this is wow yeah and what about in your experience. You said you had an experience with the doctor and you kind of Oh. I love him to death. He's his name is Dr Shefali Great Guy Great family great man. He just messed up my uh-huh he did. He messed up my knee. Yeah I was never the same once I left his operating table. Wow and there's not much he can say. You can't apologize for it. He did his best. It just didn't work out. That's what put me really on the path to retirement. You know yeah weird. You know especially when you're talking with John Williams about a a growth on his head. It's not even a real football related thing. That's the game lifestyle when you're talking about head injuries and tumors or grows or things like that it's not about like Oh. Can I get this MC L. recovered. That's scary enough in serious enough. That's trust man think about it. You're you're basically a demolition Derby car. That's your life and the people you trust the most are the trainers and the team doctors amen. Tell me what's wrong. Can I play with this or not and when they should say we know they should say no. You know that's an important skill to have civilians when we seek medical attention to obviously you hope to get the best care but also to question what the doctor wants to put in your body or with or tell you to go on not just okay. I went to the hospital. You told me to do this. I'll do it you have to use is your intuition. You have to fill out a little bit or alternative healing methods or things you can do that. Maybe you're outside the box so Trent Williams being like I growth in my head and I don't feel you'll write about how you're assessing me. I'm out well. That's that's deep well. They're telling you they're telling you. This is whatever injury it is. This is serious you need to I do X Y and Z and then you'll be just fine right and then that same person I'm just saying hypothetically that same person goes back when he faces the head coach and the owner calls you wimp <hes> he just can't deal with pain. You know what I mean. He's ready to go right now but he just doesn't want to you know and when that gets back to the player you lose trust in trainer and if it really gets going it could cost you that relationship and others in the room smears. You're you're up around the league. Then you're especially in your sport where it's all about all Mas Macho who can play with the biggest growth tumor on their head and get away with them and that sport is designed to challenge who you are and your toughness toughness and it becomes difficult to kind of have cooler heads prevail and say you know what actually you probably should sit this game well yeah I mean I'm telling you everything that I don't tell the media or my my head coach as a player right. This really hurts bad. I can't do this and that and this and that so I'm telling you this in confidence you can help me get better and then you go and relay that same information to the decision makers on the team the head coach the G._M.. And the owner come on man like who are you working for. I thought you were working for me but you're actually working for the team but when you think about it it's in his title team. Doctor Trent airtel holidays addressed to you as well even metallica address two they sold out when they release and man it was not Metallica metallica style music on the past they music for radio that means they sold out. They should never made that music for radio. No stain your cave art expand do the same thing over and over to say I'm not a METALLICA guy have raw. She's got a good rip to it yeah well. Let's talk about master of puppets <hes> cocaine title Yeah shopping your breakfast on a mirror. You Know Oh my gotTa get you off to a good start in the morning. What else gets you off to a good start being? What was that Raj often Wayne to say? Take it tomorrow. Take it all morning. Walk then Taylor undertake it falcons prepared to make Julio Jones the highest paid wide receiver DEMARCO. Take absolutely he deserves it right. I mean Mike Thomas is great but Julio Jones has been doing it longer long. Wrong side of thirty can't get in the end zone. Falcons miss the playoffs what's thirty now in the N._F._l.. It's between twenty and got a forty two year old quarterback that are a forty year old quarterback. That's killing it. Show me those thirty five year old receivers well. Have you noticed today's game has changed a little bit. You can't really hit these guys you know so yeah he should be Julio Jones's the best receiver in the game guys going to get like three thousand yards this year taking her say get Melvin Gore origins. Leverage is the low all take that I'll take I must say L Z but if you had a rookie quarterback then you have leverage you've got Philip rivers. They can move on without you and they probably will yeah. You saw some running back that I've never heard of before yesterday starting to come together the guy how could you not have heard of Austin Hager shaded Aaron Rodgers doesn't think their offense is taking camp seriously and here's what he had to say about it. I mean I am a title deal where some of the rookies had it figured out that name coaches on their side of the ball yesterday and team meeting and both rookies were less than fifty percent coaches on that <hes> on their relationships are being formed in you know low intentional and campus is the best way. It's really kind of improve that chemistry you know this is a fun time right now. Take it or shake Aaron Rodgers calling out those rookies shake it. He's seven again. This is part of Aaron Rogers and his deal he does this like once a year. That was fun. He starts calling people out for for silly reasons and I think the other one was they started the schism was not him or that might have been Brett farve. It was the word of the off season because he said it like schism so this is what he does. He's talking about. Rookies can't name our cat named coaches. I never understand that about football. You guys have so many personnel so much personality of so. Many people have so many teammates teammates coaches. How do you keep track of everybody well you do? I mean it takes a while once you make the team if you're there for a year you start to know everyone but it's easy to pick on rookies. They don't don't know anything. This is part of rookie hazing. That's what I think Aaron Rodgers starting to get my bath style and we'll keep an eye on him. All right players. Throw at batters heads should be suspended for thirty dirty games in Major League Baseball Shakes Cafaro. I'm GonNa shake that I am. I'm GONNA shake that they need a little intimidation good man that's part of that's part of the point of being a pitcher but you're throwing a baseball hundred miles an hour at somebody's head who guy that's used to being gene. Stop throwing the game. It's not part of the game that used to being thrown out. He's used to try to hit weight throwing how many times you guys get thrown at like above the shoulders that actually make contact. It's kind the happens joining US enough. What is enough but I mean like if ninety Tony Canaveral but it's it's bad when it happens but ninety eight percent go by? It's it's a message. Sometimes I think if you get tagged in the head it's not his fault. It's yours for for not move. L. is dead serious. I'm dead serious winery. Here's Mark Teixeira who actually played baseball talking about players throwing at batters heads people get on Major League Baseball Commissioner's Office and say you guys need to do more. You need to police and fine guys in suspense. M._l._B. would love to do that. The Players Union won't allow it if Major League baseball suspends a guy for Thirty Games which I think think is a proper suspension for intentionally throwing it somebody's head if you really think about what that's doing and the damage that you could do to somebody's career and somebody's life. I I think thirty games is a reasonable time to get suspended. The Union is going to fight it tooth and nail. They're going to file a grievance. There's going to be a huge lawsuit or there's GonNa be huge arbitration process so major league baseball rather than going through that says you know what players you guys WanNa police yourselves go ahead and do it and this stuff's going to happen. This is really bad for the game with this still exists twenty nine thousand nine when every other league is consumed with player safety the N._F._l.. The N._B._A. Load Management Rest doctors this baseball you guys just throw balls and figure it out can ask if we got like a baseball bat and I stood sixty feet from you and through something not not your head hit you every single time no because I've seen you throw a baseball but also I think you've never seen me through. It's also I don't know if something that the gave really we have a baseball the break. If you want to say just saying we'll go ahead all right. Trent Williams wants Redskins to take to make medical staff changes. It's wise is holding out having contract issues. It's not about money de Ngelo Hall said that's what makes this so unorthodox and something we've never seen. We've never had a player say hey. That's it's training staff Outta here. I'm not coming back. Do you like this move in D._C.. There's something going on in Washington taking ownership. I'll take it I take hey get. There's something going on in Washington. There's a power struggle there. It seems like Dan Snyder has created a monster always has been but I'll tell you when players lose confidence evidence in their training staff and their team doctors a mess but usually guys don't speak up. It's why Kawhi Leonard to Toronto Force a trade because he didn't like the medical staff with the Spurs. No doubt I hate hate the the the the group of words team doctor because their first allegiance is to the team not to you so all they want to do if it's dean by the team get him. I'm back on the field Asep it could be to your own detriment. Six point trillions is using this because he does have leverage as one of the best guards in the game for him to go out there. That'd be like look I WANNA be here. Just not those dudes and that's going to tackle keep him on the field. which is the most important thing yeah made the pro bowl last year? He's one of the best offensive tackles in the game. I mean this will turn heads. No doubt no but it's also unprecedented right. He's like when guys usually do these holdouts. Give me more money if anyone else that doesn't have the stature takes on the training staff there cut was coming through with them crazy holdout request listen. You need a new Sushi chef around here. I don't like these California. 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Filling in for the guys and last night Clayton Kershaw the lefty goes for strikeout number two thousand three hundred ninety we six so that's a lot a lot of KS got him on a curve ball to hold on hold on Kershaw Zo to he's like Sir Mile and passes Sandy Colfax alone in third dodger alltime lips. I have a feeling he's GonNa end up on top in almost every category as far as the dodgers all time not just strike outs have announced it trying too hard on the video board here. He's moved past Colfax zero round the decline wow historic moment dodger stadium last night passing saying Kovacs third all time when the dodgers list forty forty ninth all time on baseball's strikeout list pulling even with Kevin Brown guys the worst Whitney Colfax pitch guaranteed no one that saw Koufax pitch saw that last night saw him get back. I'm asking I don't know when he pitched. I don't know when it Kovacs Pitch. My Dad saw Kofi. Oh did he really was that a big deal for them. I wonder what that was like for for the Seeker Shop Pass Eighty Colfax and I look I mean Kershaw. Colfax are always going to be connected as dominant lefties here in Los Angeles the differences saying he did it in the postseason. You did it at a historic clipped and Max is the thing that's missing from. Clayton's Edens Journey Clayton Story Clayton's career is the October success in Roger. You're talking this morning. It's like we sit here a day after Clayton. Does something like this so historic were excel iconic. Where's the rings we judge them? I've got N._B._A.. Player Charles Barkley well. I think he gets a little more flack was in a postseason Barkley. Still either kept kept his game are elevated his game and four game seven in the regular season is phenomenal hall of fame and in a postage just been okay. He's been good. You know what I mean but it does <music> even throw a challenge flag on the field for that. We're not going to not go to cooperstown because he stinks in the mills and not saying that but when you see it in a postseason game is an l._v._n.. Like like Schilling elevated his policies <hes> head either more elevated Gosh Martinez was sick and postseason so I think that's the narrative when you see but remember that time we had to fire apparently they now four run lead in the world like you just you look at those things maybe postseason pitching is about power pitching. Maybe just doesn't lend itself to the postseason or maybe he it just hasn't been lucky and I do subscribe to the do theory at some point. You're going to be due for a run in the postseason and then all this goes away that sort of just adds to the anxiety that I think is festering with dodger fans time of year the same dodger fans who are upset. They didn't make some big time move the same dodger fans who might sit here and not be able to fully celebrate Clayton Kershaw Xiao Passing Sandy Koufax and the all time strikeout list because they're like he doesn't have a ring. We need a ring and it's just a reminder that they're knocking on the door and they're so damn close. Who Do you think he's going to finish his career without getting one because I don't don't put that energy onto university? Mark don't say it's Arkham can't be this good and go your whole career without you know at least So He's definitely been better the postseason but the fact that this conversation goes this direction stinks about Clayton. Yeah unfortunately that's the narrative which you'll remember remember but I mean come on hall of Fame Pitcher you know with Barclay. I don't look at him as a like a finals failure. I remember you bump into Jordan. You know what I mean. You've yeah same with Carl Malone. Look you bumped into yeah but it's not even like Kershaw's bumping into someone greater than him on this Ron it's just that he's been rather rather pedestrian who who slaps him around the cardinal. The mets clubs in a world series lead in the same game that Travis likes to bring up yeah I mean so eventual champions but but last night to again a reminder that Leeann in Los Angeles like we got some icons playing right now got Lebron Kawai Kershaw got trout you God's is Latin yeah like yeah do last last night and saw Kansas parking a candace parker play you gotta top athletes in the world in the prime of their career and Clayton Kershaw doing something historic last night. It's Nice in dodger in in Los Angeles Kinda cool. You have Aaron Donald to here's just say here's here's bus only ah last night part of the reason why the Yankees and dodgers are where they are is because the general managers have been really disciplined and so you give credit to Brian Cashman and Andrew Friedman but but my God if the Yankees rotation gets beats up in October and the play offs and they get knocked out or if the dodgers lose in the seventh or eighth inning of a game and and they want to losing that series Andrew Friedman Brian Cashman you're going to have a bunch of idiots like me coming at them with all that narrative about how they didn't get it done before the deadline yes right right. Everyone's going to be coming at you like you're Indian because it's one of those situations now where it's like. We've got all sit here as dodger fans and wait till October all right. Let's switch gears a little bit because you were at scrimmage yesterday. Yeah tell me about it. You dip down early. It's still hard for me to say it's the chargers and the rams because whenever I think chargers is that other city POPs into my head and I have to remind myself there the L._A.. chargers now yes see in those two teams <hes> battleships great. You Know How lucky you are as far as football fans and is concerned. You have anthony and Sean McVeigh at the same time in the same city to sharp coaches with really good team now. It's all about mcvay obviously the alarm on this station but what makes Anthony Lynn so special you know <hes> look at his resume man he. I think it was Bill Walsh that identified him. I you're you're going to be a coach. That's Bill Walsh right then he worked for Shanahan Bill parcells and one of the Ryan brothers right so that's your resume as a coach think about learning from all those guys but he still his own person. He's a player's coach that gets nothing but respect from his guys that is hard to do so real impressive. You know how I feel about mcvay same thing. You're lucky as football fans in L._A.. Right now with these two head coach so I just went on a whole rant about being lucky to see all these star our players. You're absolutely right about the coaches. So what are you seeing the actual game yesterday. It's anything that Rainsville Dead Philip rivers still has it. You know it's funny five five years after he retires he'll be going to canton you know <hes> so he's Great <hes> a lot of work to be done on both sides <hes> but I think both teams teams are going to be really good. It was good work. You can get good work against good football teams without making it turned into a pier six brawl which was cool to see good work. Good work had by all speaking of fights football Raji said suit teammates were fighting over the game of thrones finale. Yeah put it on the rundown though let's look at the rundown like a fist fight. We have run down here. I'm just used to do in the afternoons where it's listen to Sodano Okay Chievo on the steelers yeah. What is that Chris? What on US every time somebody says name they say on this show although now a lot of listeners are doing learn invading his shows the fair we're fair? It's a rat just told you that's how became keyshawn Elsie and travel where we associated. Never mind the steelers Alejandro Villanueva no relationship to Charlie training camp skirmish with Cam Hayward over the game of thrones was it the finale issue over one of them enjoyed it. One of them was disappointed. I can see that it was about game of thrones Villanueva told media I think that the ending they could have done it better and cameras convinced it's the greatest T._v.. Show yeah man so they really went to blows. Well it ending did kind of you know it was I. I waited a long time. You Watch a lot of TV. What show actually ended the way you wanted it to? I thought breaking bad was a good ending. Okay one yeah yeah to wear one and two they never do for me. Sopranos probably the best ending especially see. I drove me nuts it really did it drove me nuts. It's Tony Power the audience to make a decision about I've ever seen game of thrones except the first one where they throw the kid out the window. Remember that that's what we did to Saddam Donald Chiba okay there you go. That's how it comes full circle during the break do game of thrones reference. Eh for officer gets thrown out the window. The the kid came back right. I don't know I didn't stick with it because the first night where my wife and I are like people getting their heads cut off his children getting thrown out windows. What are we doing on Sunday night to unwind the first team? That's why watch it's all like white guys appeared to. I don't know it's just like baseball and the little guy and they all get killed yeah and think glitch all the time so i. I don't know if I'd be I'd be fighting my teammates but that's what happened in Pittsburgh. Did you get the company email. I don't have a company. The email address is seven years okay well. There's backstreet boys tickets phone around here. I'm good. I'm good. I'm going to see team U._S._A.. The rosebowl tomorrow tonight. I'm trying to do a bit here right there at staples tomorrow night. I'm thinking about it. Come on come out to the women's soccer the Rosebowl that extra tickets com now we'll. We're going to go to mound gate a couple of weeks from now. We'll play golf backstreet team U._S._A.. But <hes> e._S._p.. Yeah over an instinct show you more fired up. Now I go dancing. I never getting a reaction action on twitter verse two from the Metallica Stop Conversation. <hes> Jimmy bartered my friend. Jimmy Works Lucky Baldwin's down near the master of puppets ride the lightning <hes> kill them all one hundred percent agree with you metallica. Thank you for standing up to that black album B._S.. Question who is in charge <hes> who is in charge of METALLICA's Alica like music I did Jason Tourists on twitter says if someone says interesting is your favorite Metallica Song. They're not a real metallica fan. Sanmen is my favorite side. They say that your rock and roll fan nothing done. I'm done. I hate that becomes possessive together and no you. It's so interesting. It's the one art form movie don't encourage our favorite artists to grow but when they don't listen to us and do we celebrate them even more. That's not growth. Go listen to your slayer. Just stay in your garage. The growth dot com so amazing fifty six thirty rush fifty six thirty is when a day coming up to couldn't you guys featuring the bit of the day that's happened with fills the first ever fill in bid of the day filling bitter that they wound ground MMA trailblazer so Mason Ireland today. I guess we're doing like a fasttrack Friday bit fighting the play that one eagle over three. They're all freaked out everyday mason's like hey would. You guys talk about this morning. I'm like we just just did bits bro. We do bits every day. Would you hit I said I don't know goes to the PODCAST. I WanNa do the sports this yeah so. They're doing fasttrack Friday to swallow up some time but it's going to be entertaining. I am doing the 1205 position out of the cage position out of the gate early. I Follow Jim Hill and I'm playing my game. Is it's GonNa be keyshawn not keyshawn so tune in for that 1205 today on Basin in Ireland Keyshawn keyshawn he sean not keyshawn Nice so this hall Sean on Rockies but Chris. Have you ever done that position. Show me that I'm always looking for some new position. Remember the one that we oh oh yeah ooh get it. Get you look like demarco far stretching think no that does not force rushing potato shout to L._A.. Sparks man they got a big win. A lot of sparks six games candace Parker balled out last night. It was a Kyrie Irving. Was There Jaren Jackson tank places rocking mayweather was Eh Ramona Shelburne. was there <hes> Charissa Lavar for the Brooklyn Ramona Hippie back. She's waiting on coach Bill Laimbeer to hit her back so that's why I was heckling that attitude heavy last night such a baby cry baby still sweating he's coaching screaming and the rest were like kerm down bill laimbeer beer. You're GONNA blow a blood vessel so it was fun heckling lamb beer at the sparks game you know what else makes a blood vessel boil bit at that bit of the day. The bit of the day is driven by Thornburgh Los Angeles on the sunset Strip demarco far cannonball poop all I'm back you imagine demarco doing a canon. I'm that guy at a pool party. We're going to use the pool people will beginning wet next to me. No doubt yeah I like to get in West. Is that light up in the other room. Dan and there's this giant Komo audits of my right when Demarco far says things like if you stand next to me everyone's getting wet demarcus. Does it can involve see it'll be like the Chernobyl global of Orange County. Look who's talking. Did you see Ben. He was asking me for swing tips. During the day said he made a breakthrough. It helped him really give you came in here really fired up. I give you heat. I would love to go golfing with you. You want some swinger tips from me. No I do not want these sowing your tips from you. Go out and play S- costing Toronto Chris have my swing tips not help. You let me tell you something Roger Swing tips. Here's what I always. He's like to tell people about wash and I've known since I was nineteen years old. I'm thirty five now of my ten greatest nights in my life right and I've had some good ones. I've been lucky enough to have crops in top. Ten Raj is part of five to six of them. You're kidding no but greatest nights of he's got more than half yeah those ones that we watch out of this warehouse it was six. We know where we were. I have no idea to stories told them stories. I like one of the greatest nights your life took place at a warehouse took a warehouse and there was some questionable things in the morning top ten nights is your life. That's something to think about. We won the TAG team belt W._W._e.. Style tells me also also took place in a warehouse who Japan for championship so yeah we go golfing anytime well. I changed my mind watching. You're going to be wait. Who got you on Monday? You're going to be a training camp right. I will take your advice and we'll just leave it at that. You'll be at U._C.. Irvine so you can roll over to Santa Anna Travis Tonight Roger Done on look at your swing speed fitting as a matter of fact. This is how I like our relationship a big piece of glass between us. We can do that to uh-huh meanwhile. I feel like Chris you could take demarco to the Gulf and you show the golf course and be like yeah you name this course after me. What were we doing Golfing O._C.? Week wow take you to try the meal day the bit of the Yeah I love bits man. It's all good corned. Berg Los Angeles on the sunset strip brings us a bit of the day every morning to wrap up his visit Toernberg Los Angeles Dot Com and rover above

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Mean Gene Okerlund

83 Weeks with Eric Bischoff

55:29 min | 1 year ago

Mean Gene Okerlund

"Hey, it's garnering and Thompson, and you're listening to a very special edition of eighty three weeks with Eric Bischoff. Or celebrate the life and times of the wind only mangino, Colin Eric. What's going on, man? How are you? I'm great Conrad. Just literally just pulled into the house here in Wyoming after a weekend. Fast and furious one down in Houston. Hey with you boy, Bruce is awesome. I'm glad you guys had fine. And I guess I should give him everybody heads up before we get going today. But Eric, and I are going to be coming to see us Saint Louis. Stay tuned to Twitter. We're going to have all the ticket details coming in the next week. Or so the first place defined is eighty three weeks on Twitter. So if you haven't already go give us a follow their we'll be back to our regularly scheduled programing next week. But we felt like an audible was necessary this week just to celebrate the life and Tom's of meaning Oakland. I gotta say, man. This is news that obviously is inevitable. Eventually, we all are, Tom. But I just saw me gene in November. And you know, he was clear and sound mind. And you just never think when you see somebody. It's going to be the last time was the last time we saw, gene. It's interesting, Bruce, and I were talking about that this weekend on the last time. I saw Jean was I think in August. I went to an event actually Bruce was there as well. We were both there pep Patterson was there, Larry the accent was air bear run around a lot of the old timers from around the midwest Awa era, but that was my saw in. I have to say, you know, Santa's it is when a friend in appear someone in my case, I grew up watching before I ever came to know him personally or professionally you always hate to see people like Jean pass. But the one thing I guess. I don't know. It makes me I don't want to say better about it. But I guess it keeps me from being sad. Let's put it that way. Is that less time? I saw Jean. He was having a blast. He's seventy five years old seventy six years old, whatever he was he was he was hurting. You could tell physically it was hard for him to get around his hand. And I went to shake his hand when I saw him and his hand was swollen up very very badly. I think is a couple of some of the kidney issues he had and you could just tell physically. He was probably very uncomfortable to say the least, but he was having a blast. You know, he'd loved he loved being around wrestling fans. He really really did. He'd loved entertaining him. Whether it was just two or three people sitting at the end of the bar or a room full of people or locker room full of people. He just loved to be around rustling fans in the wrestling business. And I I will say he was having a blast that let's say I saw. Well, let's let's start from the beginning. Obviously, you grew up as an Awa fan and main gene for modern life. Tom was all about the WWF. But realistically, he cut his teeth in the Awa not all that differently. The new apparently the situation was he was working in radio. And all of a sudden one of their announcers was out. They asked Jean to stand in awe. He's in the wrestling business. Does that sound a little familiar to you, so bizarre. I read there was an article, you know, Jean passed last week. There was a lot of you know. New information in past articles that were floating around on social media. And I came across a story that was written a while back in the Minneapolis Star Tribune about, gene. And how he got started and Russell units. I I don't know if you read the same thing I did. But it's almost forbade them. You know, what she stated, you know, he was working at over at WTN channel eleven where Vern used to tape a show in the studio there, and it's house like kind of a similar situation. You know, gene, just happened to have a tie. I'm sure, you know, I know ver I knew her pretty Well I- Vern would've immediately jumped all over, gene. Just because of his voice Vern really loved announcers with that deep rich powerful kind of baritone thord of type of voice that gene had. So I can just see are now snatch achieve the Tien. Dragged him into a TV studio throw Mike is a here, you're wrestling announcer. Do you remember anything about? Gene, when you were just watching as a fan of home on television. You know? There was there's a lot of things I remember. But I tried to recall last week when the news hit tried to recall. What is my very first memory of Gino, Oakland? And ironically it. It was a scene where they have been building up hulk HOGAN that he was like this big mystery coming to town coming you know, that happened when when big names would come into the territory for the first time or maybe like an Andre the giant. They only came around once a year once every two years, whatever it was. And they would always make a big deal out of this next big attraction coming into the Awa. Well, there was a period of a couple of weeks or month. I guess where there was all this buildup about this, you know, fee nom that was coming to the Awa and not a lot of information. You know, kind of kept it a secret kept everybody talking wondering who it was and the shot was single camera, right, gene? Oakland standing there with a stick in front of the eight of your way logo in enter, you know, there's giant bicep from behind enters the screen covers jeans face. You can't even really see gene you could just hear him. And all the cameras sees is this arm, you know, flex in a bicep curl. And the cameras in the back of the is the figures moving closer and closer closer to gene and a camera pulls back wide, and it it reveals that its hall Cogan. Ironically, that's my first memory of Jeanne. I know I I'd seen a lot of them before. But that's like the one the one moment that I remember being the first. That's cool that it involves hulk HOGAN because I think so many people really closely associate Gino Carlin with either hulk HOGAN, RIC flair is at the same for you that that's sort of the two that you think about when you think of, gene. It definitely, you know, in and I have to say, you know, hulk I because again, you know, I didn't really know who refer was to got to WCW. So for me, you know, when I was impressionable was at the peak of my wrestling phantom, I guess in my early teens or mid teens hulk HOGAN was the one that I remembered with, gene. And those two were just they were they were synonymous, you almost can't imagine one without the other. It's it's fine to talk about you know, what he said when I was at the Honda fandom in my most impressionable because that is sort of what I mean, I think that's the reason people listening to this show right now. Because so many of our listeners, you know, when you were running WCW, that's what it was. So it's fun to hear what that was for you. I I did a little research about, gene. And I realized that when he came to WCW, or I guess I should back up when you did you try out with vents no chance you ran into, gene. And gene was still living in Florida. He wouldn't have been in the studio that day, right? No. He wasn't. He wasn't at all. So your first time meeting jeans, probably in WCW is that right? Correct. So when he comes to WCW nineteen Ninety-three, I didn't know this. But he had the same agent as Jesse Ventura. Would that be one Barry bloom correctomundo at is? Correct. So when you first meet, gene, are you still an announcer or at that point? Are you do you have a little bit of stroke in the company? No. But that's house executive producer because I would have hired, gene. In would have had to have a little bit of stroke to do that. So I was already I believe executive present on the vice president yet, but I was the executive producer. And I I was the one that basically brought gene in Turnberry talked me about how that happened. Like, you know, I it is shocking after nearly ten years in the WF even think about somebody like Jean being on another wrestling program. How did you hear that? He might be available. And how did that all come to be? Well, I was pretty close with berry at that time and bury new, you know, I talked to bury a lot very had a pretty good idea where I was going on what my plans were. And what I was trying to do. He knew that. I wanted to upgrade, you know, the the production values of especially our syndicated product. He knew how I felt about announcer. He knew I was looking to to refresh the announcer Rosser so berry made meeting, gene releasing. So when you meet with Jean talk to me a little bit about what what that conversation was where their concerns about. Are you gonna make me move to Atlanta? Because when we talked about, Gino Caroline with Bruce. He was pretty adamant he didn't wanna leave Florida. He's starting to didn't wanna live in Stanford. And I don't blame him on a lot of people would pitch a fit about living in Stamford, whether it's Jim cornet or whoever, you know, even Bruce opted to now, I really need to live. You know where I'm from. Nobody wants to upper their family and got another part of the country now dumping on Connecticut. Just saying everybody wants to live where they are was that a concern or what were his concerns or was it just all about the dates in the money? Well, it was all of the above. It was about the dates. It was about the money. We did talk about his schedule. And gene was gene was pretty by this time he was kind of ready to wind it down a little bit. You know, he wasn't looking to work, you know, five or six days a week and be on the road fulltime. He wasn't looking for any kind of office position or management position. In addition to announcing. So there was never any need for him. Our need for us. Stephen talk about him moving to Atlanta didn't didn't make any sense. Most of the stuff that Jeanne was doing he was doing for us. You know at television tapings and pay per views and things so there was no need for him to move to Atlanta that was never miss you. But he was concerned about dates like I said, he was you know, he was he was ready to he was fifty five or six years old when he got the WCW. So he was ready to start one. Now, what are you remember about your painting with Jean? You know, the because we had so many mutual friends and mutual history and a unique relationship with virgin was pretty close with farm. I know there was it was a tumultuous time. And there was you know, I don't know what the politics were when gene Ashley left firm. We never never really had that conversation. But. He I don't know, gene. Gene was easy for me to talk to. Because like I said we just had so much in common. Right. You know, we could we could talk about we could talk about hunting. We could talk about Fisher. We could talk about Nick balk. We'll talk about later the accident. We could raise seeing that said, you know, why who may ten we talked about because we had so many similar connections. Even though we weren't France. And the one common denominator was, you know, a relationship with her. So you struck a deal with Jane same that you make the deal the very first time y'all are together. Or is that all work? They bury bloom or how does the contract process work? I mean, really when somebody has an agent or an attorney that they want representing them. I I don't negotiate with the talent. If once once they say, here's my Turney, or here's my agent, then all of the business dealings, at least the way, I do it then goes directly through the attorneys or ages, and actually if they have an attorney than I don't then I take myself completely out of it. And I won't even talk to their attorney. I have my attorney talk to. Their attorney. So I'm pretty sure because it went very smoothly with Jean. I think Jean probably had a pretty good idea. What he was looking for as as a result of that. So to bury bloom is is agent. I knew what I could afford. I knew a we're willing to pay him. And it was a fairly easy deal to get done. It was not a complicated deal. One of the things that's become a bit legendary. And we've touched on it before briefly. But I love to have you sort of recap it, and I'm just revisit it for a minute since we're talking about Jane is the hotline because the hotline became synonymous with, gene. So the point that they even spoofed it on F television and called him scheme, gene and allegedly. He would run a little fast and loose with that. Sometimes just to start up some interesting, the telephone rang and most importantly, the cash register ring and allegedly he helped grow that quite a bit and the rumor and innuendo is that you sort of help carve that off and make that is by me to where he was able to participate. What can you share with us about that? Yeah. I mean, really. Gene was passionate about the idea. He believed that we could generate significant revenue, and you got you know, go back to nineteen Ninety-three early nineteen ninety four. Every bit of revenue was important in. We were again tried to stop the bleeding and ninety three by ninety four. We're trying to find a way to make that first dollar profit. And along the way every nickel mannered, you know, in the in the hotline generated significant revenue once it got up and running and we worked out the bugs, and yeah, when it was g came to me with the idea that he wanted to manage it. He wanted to produce it. He wanted to do the work. So we carved out I think he got thirty or thirty five percent. We got the balance of the revenue that came in. And that was his baby find money for me. I mean, it was money that we that. It was money that wasn't previously in in our books. So I was picking up change that we we weren't currently making a previously making it makes us debut on November sixth nineteen Ninety-three on addition of WCW, Saturday night and. Apparently enforce some sort of non compete clause. Is that right where he wasn't able to do anything for a couple of months is that the way remember I do not remember that. So let's talk a little bit about Jean's relationship with you because he's got on record as saying that he likes you any fancy refreshing. And that you said something to him the minimum Puga like we need you here. And we want you here, and that was a bit of a an ego Bush for him because you know, you've had this long term relationship that just ended. Did you have any sort of conversations with him about the way things ended with vents or the WWF or how that may be affected in one way or another? You know, I was thinking about that today and on the way home, and this one of the things I think that made me respect, gene, so much is that he didn't have a a negative thing to say about WWF or vents or anybody in WWF at that time. You know, unlike many people who would come over from the WWF, and they would look it's human nature. I don't think less of people necessarily. It's kind of common. But so often people would come from the WWF for people who had previously been on the W WWF and. You know, they would make comments that they think you want to hear because they're the competition in you'd hear a lot of negative things. Did you hear a lot of ridiculous stories? And I always kind of let it go in one ear and out the other because I understood what it was. And why people were doing it. But gene was different than that. Jay, gene. Gene thought the world of Kevin done, in fact, Jean and I probably spent more time talking for the first year or two that he was with us about production. Then we did anything else, gene. Gene came from the advertising world. So we understood the business of the television slash rustling business. He looked at it as a business, which is different than a lot of people who who don't really understand. What goes on the business side of the equation? They only understand what goes on inside of a ring or an incentive Nerina, and I'm not knocking that. But gene, gene was one of those guys that had experience on both sides of that equation. But what gene was most yet? He was almost obnoxious about it. He was he was relentless in in in a good way was the production values, and I think Jean probably had more influence on me than just about anybody else that came over from WWF early on. Because I I knew intuitively that we needed to upgrade our production values. But I didn't see the extent to which we needed to until I really started spending a lot of time with Jane. And he would point out a lot of little details. And we talk about ways to make shots look better in ways to make arenas, look better. And you know, just e. Gene, had amazing. I for little details. And that's really what television is it's a it's the some of a lot of little details. And he he he really wasn't pressed with Kevin Don and everybody at WWF and didn't have a bad word to say about anybody when he debuts he debuts with two other former WWF talents. Tony shivani. It was up there for a whole year. And of course, Jesse Ventura really made a name for himself doing commentary there in the WWF. And now they're both ear being stick man for WCW. And Jesse announces that he's got a bit of a surprise for Tony. And it's going to be a reunion, and he introduces gene, and they're at center stage, and it's a huge pot Progen. Were you surprised at how well gene was received as not really an in ring talent. But someone that was really our TV bad for a lot of us. I know I wasn't surprised at all. I would've been surprised if it would have been any other way, you know. And it's a really interesting thing about gene is, you know, the W W W. Audience back, then, you know, ninety three ninety four there were still it was still very much a former NWEA kind of audience. Right. You know, they they grew up watching wrestling on TBS in gene was an outsider Jean. What did didn't Jeannine come from the NWEA didn't come through? You know, the the south at all he he's he was a WWF guy in most everybody's mind, and you would think coming into WCW, you know, that would get kind of an adverse reaction, but it didn't quite the opposite. Because gene was so likeable man, he was like Switzerland. You know, he's the one guy that could be up. There could be the face of WWF come down to WCW walk into center stage and get a big pop because he was everybody loved him. Yeah. And that was true in real life too. I mean, not just on television. One of the things I've always been fascinated by is the way you guys built the stark eight nineteen Ninety-three saga because originally the plan we've talked about this before is supposed to be said versus Vader. The whole stabbing thing happens with Arn. It's insurance you call an audible, and instead he built the story about the aging former world champion in the twilight of his career up against this unstoppable. Beast of a champion who hasn't been beaten hasn't even really looked Molnar -able he's nominated everybody, and you're showing highlights of him. You know, breaking Joe Thurmond's back and just destroying people. I mean, while you're telling this sob story of sorts where it's like Ken this man, possibly do it. And he even get footage of gene interviewing and visiting with Rick as he kisses his family goodbye. And then they jump in the limo. And they're talking about how his family's worried. How Rick's worried really really great stuff and a lot of people in wrestling still point to that today and say man that was some of the best storytelling ever, and they really hang their hat on. The fact that wasn't for lack of a better word overproduced talk to us about that scene. And how you just had faith and confidence and those two guys to get that done. Because even now, it's an awesome thing to go back and watch. No it is. And I think I saw lasts about four five months ago. Somebody actually sent me that clip, and that's one of the things I I did notice it about it is the way it was produced. It looked believable it fell believable. And we've talked about this before anytime in my experience, but I think anybody's ever worked with re probably feels the same in my experience working with Rick the closer you can get. To his core is emotional core. Something that he's sensitive about the better. He is. And you know, Rick even in ninety three and ninety four year. We wasn't worried about his age. But you know, he was he was getting older, you know, when you're in the business when you're in a business that is populated primarily with twenty year olds and thirty years thirty year olds by the time, you're knocking on forty five forty eight years old, you're certain to be pretty self aware. And in Rick was like that. And it was so believable to wreck and again because it was his home, and it was in Charlotte, and you surround him with his family. I mean, you know, better than I do at this point, but working with within professionally like, I said if you could get somewhere close to his emotional core. You don't have to script them. You don't really have to point them into many different directions. He know Rick would know what the story is. He he knows what his role in. That story is in gene was. Exactly the same way. Gene is that's the other thing. I talked about this on patriot. And I don't mean to go all over the place, but I'm going to anyway, Jean was so unique because he could in one minute he could be the ultimate straight, man. You know, he could he could he could set you up to be as funny as you could possibly be in. He was so great at being a straight, man. He was also a clown. He was a comedian. He was a really quick witted guy is so fast on his feet. And we talk about improv and ad-lib and all that. I mean Jean was on. It was the best when it came to improv in it's because of the way he came up. You know, I know how he came became the same way. I did in Awa and you you're learning on the job, and you're learning from people like burn gone you who I who. I think was was a master. When it came to teaching people how to do. Interviews, and in helping characters find themselves, you know, in in a stand up interview, he worked Vern worked really hard at that in gene took to it. But a lot of the stuff that Jeanne did early in Awa I guarantee those guys in their scripts. I know they didn't they will look at you like, you're nuts. If you even suggested somebody bring a script or a note pad into into do promos. So as a result of that gene was forced to learn how to be fast on his feet and work with these guys and have fun with them without making fun of them. Because that's the other key. You know, so many eat office thinking about the soccer hall about this. We're I don't think we're ever gonna see another Gino Oakland wherever because the talent and nothing against anybody. That's out there doing it. Now, I not I'm not being critical at all. But the environment in the process and the protocols that they're working under now are so much. Different that you don't get a chance to learn how to improv right? And and and you never find out, you know, one million, you know, personality that's going to be really quick witted and funny. But most importantly know, how to get the talent over, you know, you see people that are inexperience go out. And the first time that, you know, they're interviewing a wrestler, and they're trying to be a smart to try to be as tile for try to be whatever they're competing in in their own way, they're competing with a talented interviewing, and they don't realize their job is to make that talent shine. And that's what gene was so good at he could make just you know, you've probably heard this a million times about Rick. You know, everybody loved to work with requisite could make anybody look good, right? Like work made me look good. Well, made me look marginal. But for me marginal was pretty frigging awesome. But matter than you, expect better than others expected. Absolutely. Yeah. But that was all Rick that has zip to do with me. That was all Rick and gene was the. Same way when it came to you know, promos gene could make an average guy. Look good, good guy. Look great in a great guy looked phenomenal. And that's why people it's enough reason why everybody loves, gene. So you mentioned a minute ago hulk HOGAN, obviously, the name that most people probably so not, you know, put them together. I mean, it's peanut butter and jelly, all the all not all. But most of the video clips that I saw in the the last few days start celebrating gene, involved, HOGAN one way or another when you talk to hawk about gene this week. What did he say? I think I think when the news hit him it hit them pretty hard. He just got back from Miami. And Jennifer dent, we're down there for New Year's Eve, and he had just got back and was out up lake got home late and early in the morning is when he got the phone call and it hit them pretty hard. I know I tried to reach him in the morning, and I couldn't get a hold of them to later on that afternoon or early evening east coast. And by the time, I got him. He was I could tell he was it was pretty sad. But he, and I we talked about it. And we both kinda came to the same conclusion the guy just love life in any lived at really, really hard. And well, and and he's hard to feel too bad about a guy. That's lupus entire life was surrounded with friends and loved go out there, you know, he'd love going up to to to WWE going up to Stanford and see and Kevin Don. Christine burgers and some of the boys and production. You know, the that he's known for so long. He just loved it in the fact that he loved life so much, and he was happy right up until the very Anonima was personal life was like at home. I only saw them when we were events. But man talk about a guy filled with joy that was that was, gene. Yes. What terry? And I both talked about us. You know, can't feel too bad about it guy. Lewd the great life. The other guy, of course, that everybody has clips of this week with gene is is RIC flair. And I think most people remember him with Rick because of the way Rick would start interviews whenever gene was holding the stick for him main Baga, gene, Wu or some variation. But in the typical over the top nature boy delivery, how much fun did these two Goss have working together. It's funny. When with when it came time for Rick in gene to shoot, something usually on the P, those people standing around some the talent Santa around or the production people that weren't really busy at a particular moment, it would draw route because it was entertaining as hell, and they had so much fun that everybody else had fun watching it. And I think that's again, one of the things that translates to the home viewer in a when you can have that much fun at your job in performing and still getting business done chances out of the audience is gonna dig it. So yeah, they had a blast. We all did watch it one of the things that Rick has talked a lot about even back on our podcast together wound nation and the RIC flair show, we had the honor of having Maine, gene as our guest on not once but two times, and they often talked about the fun. They had after the show at the bar with what gene called a couple of clear ones, and he good after the show drinking stories. With a genie can share. Didn't. I'd hang out with gene pretty regularly. You know after nitro for twenty minutes or so not not not all evening because gene was a social butterfly sure. He just loves socializing at the bar. And so I never really hung hung out and drank hardwood, gene, or Bobby or anything like that. The only thing that comes to my mind. And this is just it just makes me chuckle is Gino such a flirt I mean, and he had game, gene. Oakland had game. No matter where we were. You know, what town however, bigger small, you know, after nitro everybody get together at the TV hotel Ed down to the bar most often in gene would always have three or four young. Ladies just totally captivated, you know, laughing away giggling away, and he totally would charm them and it never failed. I mean, I think means you mean, Jean Oakland probably attracted more more women after nitro than probably any of the talent combined. And to be clear because I've seen gene in action on some of this. He was just as he said keeping the the skill sharp. He wasn't trying to close the deal. He's just wanted to make sure a salesman can still sell and. Absolutely. And he was good at it actually was a doctor about Bobby Heenan. He mentioned Bobby there. And I think a lot of people when they think about main, gene, but can't help. But think about Bobby Heenan Bobby comes in not too terribly long. After gene he makes his debut and January twenty seventh nineteen Ninety-four. It's a clash of the champions and very fittingly the show opened with gene welcoming us to the show. And then in his earpiece, he gets told something and introduces Bobby the brain that's such a great time in the WB F. And now they're here in WCW that had to be something gene was looking forward to. He was he he obviously thought the world of Bobby in who who didn't or who wouldn't. But yeah, he was very excited to to get back together with Bobby again, just had such natural chemistry, and you talk, and I know you. No you've been around, gene. I don't know if you've ever had the opportunity to see Bobby before he got real sick or hang around Bobby before he got real sick. But when you know when Bobby was at the top of his game. And gene was as well those two together. I swear to God they could've they could've had a show in Las Vegas. You know, seven nights a week, if they wanted to I were just so funny together, you know, I get asked all the time because I have at this point too, many damn podcast. But I gotta ask all the time. Hey, if there was one dream podcast who had to be, and it's always either Bobby Heenan or dusty Rhodes, but could you imagine a Bobby Heenan main gene podcast, what that might be like the stories, especially with Bobby? You know, if if podcast would have been around, you know, when Bobby was available and interested in doing them the stories that you could have heard from him. I mean, just this weekend, you know. He goes around Tito Santana. The demolition accident smash and Bob Orton and a bunch of much older guys, and you sit around and you talk to hear these stories, but you listen to a guy like, you know, Bobby Heenan and the stories he could've told it would have been amazing. The good old days, man. That's what I enjoy about. This show was as we give chance to relive some of those memories and one of them that I think is probably most iconic with me, gene is bash at the beach ninety six and we've talked about that show here before of course, it's the legendary he'll turn of whole Cogan one of the biggest moments of his career and arguably in wrestling, no without question. One of the biggest moments in wrestling and the man right in the middle Holden stick well who else manging Oakland. That scene wouldn't have been the same with anybody else in there. What? Nope, dr. Nope. What are you? Remember about that scene in jeans importance to it because I mean, he really is selling it. I mean, we didn't see gene talk a lot in those. He usually just set it up, and you know, this Friday night, you know, you're refacing Tito Santana, but Jane took it to another level and said something like excuse me, what in the world. Are you thinking I've been with you for so many years to join up with these men makes me sick. You've got to be kidding me. I mean, just really selling, you know, even to the point where he points out the garbage in the ring, which you've talked about gave you Woodrow before he says look at all this crap in the ring. That's what's in the future for you. If you hang around with these two or something like that. Gene made that I mean, obviously, the the turn was the big critical thing. But without gene, really driving the point home. I don't know that it would have been nearly as effective. I. I don't know who could have done it. I mean, I know I couldn't of it. It would wouldn't have been the same at all. I don't think shivani could've right because shivani didn't have that history with hulk Shabani wouldn't have been or and shouldn't have been anything other than a little angry and disappointed. But gene because he was so close will and people associated them, you know, from from the beginning of what most people recognize as the beginning a hulk Hogan's career so for gene to have been impacted emotionally the way he was the way he set that up. Absolutely to your point sold the hell out of that. No. Here's what here's the best part of that we didn't rehearse it. Man. That's just the magic of Maine gene is not just the right off the top of the head. He he knew his business. Right. He he didn't have to tell them. You know that? That's you know, sometimes I listened to myself. I'll listen to the show back, and I and I get mad at myself because sometimes I don't articulate what I'm really trying to say as well as I wish I could or I I do. But with gene that was the magic the magic is putting people in a situation and getting a real reaction out of them is real as possible. We all know what we're doing here for a living, but to to to figure out a way around that into get natural real reactions that people at home feel. That's the magic know. She was so good at that. He was so good at it. He just had a great instinct for it. Let's talk a little bit about a few months later because I think the sort of gets lost in the shuffle in like September of ninety six not too terribly long after the HOGAN turn his contract expires and he's off TV for a while. And Meltzer would even write that. He said goodbye to a lot of people in the office early that week and by Thursday, a memo circulated to all w me, please that Oakland was no longer with the company, but he's not going to terribly long. Eventually he works on another deal and manages to come back. But not before he at least has a conversation with Vince McMahon. What's the thinking after you know, he's done such a great job? But we're not going to renew your contract at the on six. It was just an ago Chichan, you know, sometimes sometimes they're easy. Sometimes they're hard by that time, you know, ninety six everybody started smelling blood. Sure everybody wanted to get rich everyone. Everybody felt that they deserved more. And there was a big run on on WCW. Because with everybody knew we were rocket. Gene was no different. He's not gone terribly long. He winds up coming back on November eleventh. And according to Meltzer the rumor and innuendo is that he was offered a pretty good contract. Only work five dates a month, which would be the nitro 's at one pay per view and doesn't have any office or hotline duties at that point is that what you remember it. Well, he never had any office duties, so yeah, if we would've phased the hotline out then. Yeah, we would have sounds right. I mean, we that that was our schedule. You know, we have four TV's in pay per view. That's all we need a gene four. So that would that sounds right. Let's talk about some not so awesome stuff. Some of this. She were here for some of it you weren't. But one of the things that stuck out to me as he joined the millionaire's club and feuded with Pamela, Paul shock book this ship. Oh, I was Mr. Rousseau. Well, let's just move. But that was but I was there. So look, I got a taste. I could've probably should come out. And I didn't. So I can't put it all on him. I was there, but you weren't there. I mean, I'm not I don't wanna put words in your mouth. Let me start it over where you there when he teamed with buff Bagwell to wrestle canyon and Mark Madden on thunder or the next week where Mark Madden wrestled me, gene. And then pulled his Cup out and rubbed it. Mark Madden's face. No. Thank god. Yeah. I can't believe those were real things but in consecutive thunders eight teams with Bagwell to take on Kenya. And Mark Radin maddened goes to low blow, gene, gene reveals that didn't hurt and he pulls out a Cup to reveal why rubs at Madison mad face Bagwell's gives them the blockbuster. That's the end the next week. Gene has his first ever singles match it's against Mark Madden in a street fight, which is pretty freaking unbelievable. But it happened. And. Yeah. So let's talk about you know, the the good times that you've had with Jean and what you're going to remember by what you think jeans legacy is going to be. What are we think is legacy is going to be? Well, the great thing is because of the WWE network. Kids are going to be watching me, gene, Oakland for the for decades and decades and decades to come. I don't think as I said earlier we're ever going to see anybody come close to being as entertaining is credible in his consistent is Gino killing was what we're never going to see that again. And when I think about what am I gonna remember most? I'm just remembers laugh 'cause he laughed a lot. He was always cutting a joke. He was always he he had one liners for everything. And for whatever reason when I closed my eyes, and I think about gene, Oakland, I think about him sitting at the end of the bar with a couple of young ladies just having the time of his life that to me. That's that's how I choose to remember, gene. Well, I think most of us choose to remember holding the microphone for some of our favorite wrestlers. And of course, there's a couple of fun blooper videos that are out there outtakes and whatnot. And even an interview in WCW that you may remember where you guys let him sort of go after. The natural born thrillers, and he's telling them to blow it out their ass. He showed a little personality, which is the gene that if you met him and realize that's really met. He was with WCW until it closed. They got a contract. Renewal not terribly long before. But was still able to pop wrestlemainia seventeen and do commentary for the gimmick battle, Royal? And then of course, he worked on and off with the WWE for hosting their confidential and lots of twenty four seven things and on demand classics popped up for some skits here and there, but he was almost like the an ambassador, or like, the the elder statesman of the WWE was not he was, you know, and it's funny when you think about, you know, people talk about branding and know, how to get your brand across and all that branding means to everybody. But Gino Clinton, I think was in many ways the face of WWF before Vince McMahon acknowledged that he owned the Cup. And you know, while he was still an announcer, and nobody really knew what his his real role within WWF. Was. There was one guy. We when you thought of WWF other than the talent, you know, will, you know, RIC flair ultimate warrior, whoever you thought of as a talent. But the one consistent face and voice that you heard so much from was, you know, Kalim. So I think in in many ways, he was the unofficial brand ambassador for WWF without question. Let's run through some questions that we've gotten on Twitter. Lots of people have wanted to know stories from you about main gene, do you know of anybody that he ever had an issue with backstage? I know Bruce Prichard said that he didn't really get along with the ultimate warrior on the WCW side of things you remember Mangena ever having a particular issue with anybody one way or another because I've never heard not one soul. Anything bad about, gene? No, no. I don't recall him ever having. You know, listen, gene. Gene can have a temper gene was a little bit of a perfectionist ee was patient. He was tolerant to a point. But when he came to his business. He he was a bit of a perfectionist. And if you didn't come ready to work in the you're just half assing it or you weren't prepared or you weren't putting anything into it. He'd hot you know, if production wasn't right? He'd get hot. He likes things to be on time when they weren't on time. He could get hot. Now, it wouldn't last long and half the time when he was bliss review. It was kind of funny the way did it. So you just kinda roll of it and chuckled along with it. But he did have a temper, but like I said, I never recall him having a personal issue with with anybody. Tony shivani has said that occasionally they would have some flare ups because Tony was supposed to be producing. And he would say that maybe Turner didn't have quite the structure that the WWE had. That's not what gene was accustomed to. And as a result, gene could be difficult at different times as sort of what you're referring to. Yeah. It is in Tony's right about that. You know, Jean came to WCW G knew what he was getting into. There was no there was no illusion. You know, we didn't. We didn't try to pretend we were something that we weren't, you know, but I can only imagine, you know, how dramatic of a of a cultural shift that would have had to been for gene to come from WWF because WWF even back in the nineties. It was a machine. I mean productions second to none and extremely well organized and everybody there knew their jobs and did their jobs. Very very well. Even have that Turner. We've talked about this before about where we're Turner production was in the WCW from the time. I took it over till the time I left. We eventually grew to become fairly sophisticated but never as well organized and structured is the WWF in that would drive gene a little bat shit from time to time. I'd hear about it a lot. Well, I mean, this really nice a profit. Yes. We do want to talk a little bit about some of the promos that really stick out to you. You know, the two that really resonated with me or stark eight ninety three with flair. And then, of course, the whole batch at the beach deal with all Cogan and from comedy purpose. The the natural born thrillers thing anything stick out to you about his work. And w w that you want to mention. No, I think those are good examples of some of the best stuff that that gene has done or did I should say with WCW. And again, it's his it was his instinct it was his natural ability in this Dallas. It was him knowing his job and his role, and how to tell a story that was the other thing about was a great storyteller. There's all these little these little facets of what made him such a the crown jewel of wrestling announcers. But he he was a great storyteller. But yeah. Those those to those shoe promos, I think he picked were were excellent representations of some of his best work the one that I get the kick out of because I I have seen a lot of them. It didn't happen in WCW. And there were a lot of WWF too. I mean, if you're going to do like a best of me, gene, Oakland. I'm sure somebody's going to do it. Eventually it's going to be like an eight episode series because there's just so much good stuff. But some of the ones that I get the biggest kick out of there's one that's been floating around in social media where Gino Caroline's trying to interview mad dog Vashon who is building a coffin because he's in a casket match or something coming up. This is you know, in the Awa I was just a fan, then I didn't work there at the time, obviously. But I remember when I saw that it was just a Larry issues. And and if you go back, and you see that on social media just watched you know, jeeze reactions are priceless. One of the things. We've talked about on Tony Shabani's podcast is the famous promo where Rick player in his feud with you strip down to his boxers and through money and through his shoes and handcuffed himself to the rank and I'm not leaving. And as he's doing all of this. And Rick says he didn't tell Jean that he was going to do any of this. But he did say run past you, and you're only caveat was let's be careful. We'll how many close you take off. But but apparently he didn't tell Jean he was going to do this. And gene just off the Cup said there goes the laundry, which is pretty funny. What what are you remember about that particular promo with RIC flair just stripping down right in the middle of Nitra again. I same thing is true. You know, if you're gonna come up with a RIC flair highlight video you better have eight episodes to do it with. There's so many of them. But it's that chemistry. They brought out the best of each other in and Rick. Rick was always best what he was nuts. And that was like nutty RIC flair in his prime, in my opinion, that was pretty crazy shit. There's a lot of fun stuff. That's floated around that's like outtakes of gene where he was trying to crack the boys up because when they had the do pre tapes way back in the day in the eighties. When the doing localized promos where they had the do one after another for all these markets through will take hours upon hours to do. So mean, Jean did his best just to entertain himself on the other guys there, and as a result really funny stuff came out of his mouth wasn't really suitable for air any fun takes like that. You remember from WCW or maybe a good one liner that gene use that you still remember? No, he was just so many of them so many one liners, the not one of them stands out to be honest with you. I just couldn't pick one ECU running through some of the different times. When gene I came down. It was very helpful with production. What's wasn't really his job? It's just supposed to be on our talent. But he was trying to help brother out and say what about this? What about that? Is there any one particular moment are lesson or main gene pro tip that you can share with us that you were not so much I in in terms of a tip or negative knowledge. But again, you know, I think jeans exposure, you're not again, you just follow his career started on Awa which is really basic rudimentary television single camera studio shoe type stuff, and that's where Jean cut his teeth. And then he goes up to WWF, and they're very very. Fisticuffs even were then very sophisticated production company. And gene learned a lot. Gene was a sponge when he went to work. He not only became really good friends with with Kevin Kevin done. He studied the product. And by the time, he got the WCW. He like I said he probably knew more about production in the changes that we needed to make them probably anybody in WCW at that time. Yeah. I mean, that's not a surprise like Asif, you, you know, hung out as long as he did in the studio with the WWF, the you remember anything about gene, son, the played hockey because a lot of people have popped up this week with little details about his son playing in the United shell. Or even the fact that means gene had an album back in the day. I didn't know that Jane was a crooner before he passed away. Did he rap do rap song? Now, he may have for you. You may have made him do some sort of run. Do that. Well, but he did have like when he was a young man on them that he released, and you can actually listen to some of it on some different streaming services and even on YouTube, and I didn't even know that. But it's really weird because you, and I've made jokes about the fact are certain people in wrestling who've looked the same age forever. Like. For instance, JJ Dillon has looked forty for fifty years and aren't eaters and has looked forty since he was born well for whatever reason Jean Oakland has looked roughly the same age forever. So to see a young gene on the cover of an album, really blew me away. But those are two little nuggets that I didn't know before Jean passed away about his son in the NHL and then him as a a bit of a singer. Did you ever get to see or hear about the good old days either in hockey or singing, I did not? And I'm going to have to get a listen to that record. The the old clear ones the way gene would describe his drinks. And and Bruce would say it was a MARTINI with thirty. Olives. Think Corey graves Senate was vodka soda splash cranberry something like that. Do you remember an Oakland or what what meanings drink of choice was when you guys were hanging? I I would go at Corey when I do recall. Because soda splash cranberry. The good old days, man. Hey, I got one for ya, Gino who gave me gene, the nickname mean Jean. I believe it was Jesse Ventura. But I could be wrong. Don, I could stump. You want something? That's up with you. I think the story was they're doing a promo and. Jesse Ventura says he's been hanging out with Tom Brady and the Heartbreakers, and then he asked Jeanne Dina who Tom petty is and Jean being the community says, I think he's a famous race car driver referencing Richard petty. And he says boy that's mean, gene. And then Tada, he's main, gene? Well, I didn't hear that part of it. But that's cool. I know something more. What about main gene burger? Lots of people who want to know about the main burger your Iraq of burger, you know, I did I did about twenty years ago. I was up in northern Minnesota with my brother duck coming and my son, and we we're in this little town. I don't know. I can't remember the name of the town. It was couldn't have been more than four thousand people in this town in northern Minnesota. And right there on a street corner is a mean Jean burger. It's a hamburger joint, and this was after I left WCW. So of course, I had to go in and get a mean, Jean Burke who was great. Of course, you do. And if you're listening to this you probably had a good night's sleep. And that's all we want to tell you about our friends over at calming comfort blanket. I gotta tell you. This thing has taken over my house even cost a little bit of a rift because I like it. And so does she every night when I try to fall asleep? But they're days when the anxiety and stress keeps me up no matter what I do. No matter what I'll take it doesn't seem to get the job done. But this calming comfort blanket by sharper image is a luxurious way to blanket that helps me relax, and it'll help you relax. You can fall asleep. Stay asleep naturally. There's no need to suffer through another sleepless night. 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Presented by AT and T is tonight. Coverage begins at six thirty eastern on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. The Lakers will play the nets in China to begin the two thousand nine hundred ninety two thousand twenty season. And finally in the coming weeks, seventy one year old navigator Jean Jacques Salvin will attempt to cross the Atlantic Ocean and a barrel using only the ocean's currents to carry him across. I mean, come on, dude. I mean, what are you doing? What are you doing? You think it's just a barrel. I mean, look at a picture that things not a barrel. It's like a hotel room. It's ridiculous. We we talked about this a little bit last week, Dan. But like you weren't here. Have these people not heard of airplanes like you know, that you can get across yet lanting very quickly on an airplane. And before that there were concords, which you could get across the Atlantic. Even faster. It's going slow as poss- I'm not going to you for opinions on human achievement. Seventy one year old honestly, also like spent time with your family. We don't know how long you're going to be around like don't waste time. Just throwing yourself into the ocean. It seems like a waste and he just writing currents. I mean, I guess you can predict where they're going to go. But you don't really know. I mean Christopher Columbus ended up somewhere by accident. What if this guy ends up somewhere in like, you know, CI layer something he's trying where's even trying to get to just across the Atlantic. Where you're trying to get. Is the penalty? Why have you seen the size of this barrel bedroom barrel? It's not. And you know, he's gonna motor similar in there. They're gonna tach onto it. You don't get to ride the currents. Right. Everyone's got to go to sleep sometime when he does that all of a sudden, the motor goes, you gotta pay thirty grand a month for something of that barrel size in New York City, exactly. 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And if he was addressing the heckler, it's even better. It was Andre Drummond. Okay. But way with the heckler whatever he told somebody this is your fault after he buried them with points. We need to clarify not really so. One thing we've been wanting to talk about and I'm waiting for guys to stop laughing. He knows what's coming next. But we gotta be somber. Now, you gotta get your crocodile tears ready. Okay. We lost. We're going to be in this hour talking about a couple of people that we lost over over the break who were friends of the show and people who might not have even known who they were before they came on the show sort of a socio them with our show because they were so colorful, so fun and over years, they gave us a lot of content entertainment. I remember when we talked to me, gene, Oakland for the first time, and you know, how much I loved wrestling as a kid me, gene, Oakland became who. You know, Gordon, solely was the wrestling announcer for my lifetime. But it's never been done better than mean. Jean Oakland did it because he wouldn't break character except for that one time that a wall fell behind him. He would always be the straight, man. Always except when he was doing radio interviews with us like the first time, he jarred us because first of all he's Nadi. It was not excuse me, naughty, like he likes to work. Blue an inexplicably kept saying to end our. Phone calls work it like it was his catchphrase to get off the phone. It was disorienting us. It's how he said goodbye is is working. So we remember him fondly around here and we've had to death like this while we were off. But Chris Cody has put together something. Oh, it's been a lot of years that we spent with me, gene, Oakland and making us laugh every damn time. He was on with us. Here's a little something to remember. We go out to mean, gene, ochre Lynn, the legendary voice and face for so many wrestling things, it's a travesty. Is it not mean Jean mean, can I call you mean me, and you can call me j just don't call me late for dinner. When I say mean Jean Oakland is a pimp. You think what I'm a penny. If you're having dinner with ho Cogan and an ice cream comes out. It's a lot of ice cream. Do you order to is granted you share it desert? Sure as hell wouldn't have done it with Andre the giant where you joining us from me, gene. It's been a long time since we spoke to I've missed you missed you greatly. Where are you joining from down? I just have to be on the number twelve t gator creek, Sarasota, Florida doing what I do. Best drinking need, gene. Oakland four to six tomorrow, the dolphin mall. What are you gonna do? What are you going to be there? Your your mustaches a little sideways? My mother how many drinks in are you right now. I mean, come on. I'm just wondering always not any drinks gentleman early in the day where noone air, I'm having a nice warm Cup of coffee. Hot Cup of coffee. I do have a little Irish gimmick in there. If you caught me a little later in the show. Was regularly on the air. Would've been into high test by this. That story of you. And RIC flair drinking the nature boy was very uninhibited guy. And all of a sudden after a couple of martinis he was up on the bar, dancing, Canada, Opole dance that might be at the end of the nights best story at theory was with a pair of wingtips at a pair of stretch compress, knee, high socks and that was it. Yep. A Bloody Mary tomato. Juice lemon. Thank you get up. What what was as you were saying, all right? With us on seven nine hundred ticket. You were at resume me. Why were you there? What do you think? I was here. What do you think you're playing with sheep? I was there because they were paying me you end telephone conversations with the expression work it, which strikes us as odd and not terribly age-specific. All your sports guy there reads out of the sand lawn telephone book, and you're you're telling me what I'm Andy my telephone conversations with Dan, you've got a lot of a lot of nerve. I'm sorry mean Jean we have to we have to let you go. We have to fire. I don't know if you've ever been fired before in your career, but I I have to Dan, I'll tell you something you can blow it out your shorts. You guys miss read. Week because. Winters, and I did go in the sewer on the one thing. The what are you talking about mean? Jean? We had an accounting error the week before we been are you calling me a liar. Yes. You could blow it out your own hall of fame shorts. Memed, gene. If you're going to put the blood on me here on the air. I'll tell you what you'll never work in my town. Again, you're outta here mean, gene, we're done with you. It was a beautiful relationship for one week. But you cost us money. And we've got to let you go. And I'm sorry. I'm genuinely sorry, but no need for hostility. You don't make me. Call human resources that not not a fumble for dinner Saturday night me, gene. Thank you for being a friend of the show. You guys always great to. Visit have a have a cocktail for us. Yeah. That was a bummer, man. I'm calling Mikey's by as is over the where the ocean, he's by his favorite soccer stadium. And he's just blubbering blubbering Mike because we lost the famed wrestling announcer from our pass it really for Mike Mike has developed some relationships around here with Rick flair in the mean jeans, his father used to be a guy who drove around snooker in somebody else. So his child like a piece what what he was crying about is that a piece of childhood died, and and a friend of of our show. Yeah. Well, I kind of consider me gene, a bit of a friend. I met him specifically talked about the show, and let me tell you. He says work it in person to to end the conversation us, always super nice to me personally, and our show really gonna miss them. He was you could put them on. And it was guaranteed laughs. Is he the baron t great content every time we had him on. It's never miss is. He. The best sideline reporter ever like. I know he's not a technically a sideline reporter. But like, that's what him and Sager. It's him and Sager that's the list. Yes. No one else. Gamma put it on the poll who's the best sideline? Reporter of all time. Is it Sager is it mean Jean do we have any other nominees? Do we have any other nominee Burke is pretty good? Is he? No come on. Transition time for some ants. I mean is he's not my class. Two. The data's in that class action is I've noticed Sodano the brand. Brown does getting more TV time. In our Browning pie crust America is climbing fast at a much faster pace than clogging by the afternoon show. He's got on in Los Angeles before. Genuine. I am Georgia's my friend. I'm really happy for I mean, giant, crocodile tears, man. I was so happy that giant crocodile tears gave they were tears of happiness, Dan. Here you've got real task questions. So turbo tax live has real tax professionals who can answer them for you. They have CPA's in e as who are on-demand ready to give you advise and answer questions as you go their tax pros get to know you. So they could offer personalized suggestions. And find all the deductions you deserve. Whether you are stuck at a specific question or need guidance working through your return? They're tax experts. Give you the confidence to ensure your return is done. Right. Turbo. Tax live would CPA's in e as on demand. See details at turbo tax dot com. Donlevatar? Do you do this? Me up stole. God's don't. Do. Y'all wanna poet Kennedy? Visit with our show with a still God's on ESPN radio. Mike, we got another south beat session coming out here soon. Don't we we have deferred. I official south beach session, guys. This is a big day tomorrow, our network launches and it launches with south beach sessions, and it's with Neal Brennan be co-creator of Chapelle show. If you're a fan of Saint up comedy, no Neal Brennan his east. He is he is climbing man like Neal Brennan is is climbing in that in that world. He does really good creative stand up comedy. And I haven't heard a whole lot of comedians. Do what he did in his most recent special where he's, you know, digging a little bit or zagging a little bit on the me too stuff where he's reminding people a women have power over men to in a way that music. He's a brilliant guy. So please do me a favor. Find south beach sessions on your favorite streaming podcasts remain platform, you know, apple podcast Spotify. It's all their subscribe rate review. Listen origin Mel interview because I know during the holidays, we sort of drop that it's an odd time. Maybe a lot of you miss that that actually made news well away. I had feel the few phone calls about the one that one's on there. It's a really good. It gives you some really good insight instrumentalists time here. And I know that there were people that didn't want to give the interview with Jay inches because journal has a certain level of baggage use it felt like a benign interview to me, but super interesting. Like it. It didn't feel like there was anything in there that people would listen to and be outraged at Mel hill, unless they arrived at the doorstep already outraged at your Mel provided a lot of interesting context, I was close to it as an ESPN employees, and no no-one Jamila, and it shed light on some things that I didn't know exactly. And I do I did receive some messages I received plenty of bleep. This message is but I did receive some the people that were flipped by it. But what we're going to do with all of this stuff. We're still trying to negotiate was to God's to get him to be a part of this world. Hopefully at some point Harare. He will come in. Maybe a after things look a little low. So he can look like, he's rescuing everything. Maybe there's a way if we start out a little slow Stu gods can swagger into the mix. That's my normal strategy. Right. And then ask for more. Yeah. It's a brilliant Sisu God's. It's really just laziness, but he rationalized. I'm ready to go. Ready when you're ready man, whenever you guys are ready. I'm registered a microphone Miguel be ready when we're our our network launches tomorrow. I'm ready or not ready. Not ready. You guys ready here ready? Yes. We've been ready for a while. Now, the, but really I mean network launched sound network. Launched sounds big. This is all over time going to be something that we are building over the next year in real time. That is not going to be unlike this radio show, if you've been with us from the beginning you've seen how the things get built you see where their roots. Are we do this on air? So this thing is whatever it is tomorrow isn't what it's going to be. It's going to be the very first couple of steps on what this thing is eventually going to be which is a universe of a lot of the people you like inside and outside of sport. It's a digital creative audio programming that were coming out there with it's all extra. It's not the Dan lebatardshow was Stu gods. That's still going to be the places, you know, in love. This is new stuff. From Dan, hopefully from sue God's if I'm reading down and from people with our show, maybe some smart people outside of our shows universe that we bring in. It's very exciting. And it's a long end it's outside of ESPN like it's working with the SPN, but ESPN has given the blessing to have it be something that's outside of his right? So it launches tomorrow in earnest Neal Brennan, south beach sessions. A will obviously alerts you one it it launches. But it'll be tomorrow. Please subscribe to the the south beach sessions page a lot of hard work has gone into this. And this is a really good interview with Neil. So while we're a waste of God's Antonio Brown. Like this thing was fascinating. Because he he nuked the season of the football team that I believe we'd argue maybe it's the chiefs. Maybe it's the saints. But I believe a lot of people would argue that the Steelers in their huddle before this season had the three best skilled guys, the the most powerful threesome in offense and Antonio Brown here at the end nukes. This season. And we all know with Pittsburgh had gotten into the playoffs. That'd be a problem. You don't know what the hell they're going to do. You're scared of what it's going to be like, Pittsburgh, couldn't always get to the end. If they've got those two guys. Well, it's rothlisburger Brown and Schuster. I mean 'cause Levy unveiled not true. Schuster's done what Antonio Brown did when Mike Wallace was the one who wanted to be paid there. It's why a lot of people are saying trade Antonio Brown, which I think is ludicrous. I mean, he's the best wide receiver in football one of them you hold onto that guy. But they're saying, hey, you got you got Schuster's you could train Brown or two things though. You gotta be careful with that man that you've got to be careful with that. Because this job now for in Tonio Brown the job because Tony is better. What he does at this point than Ben Rothlisberger is at this point. Do the job is keep Ben young, right? If you're going to keep doing it with Ben you can't take away pieces like that. Now, maybe they will because the act was that agree GIS the the act of just wrecking the season at the end like lady on tried to record at the beginning and Tonio round tried to record at the end. And they succeed I so badly want both of those guys as a jet fan. I bring all your everybody wants them. But the the thing one of the things that I found interesting in the back and forth between. Antonio Brown and Ryan Clark. Ryan Clark was very critical of Antonio Brown. His everybody was I mean, every there's no defending that stuff. But Ryan Clark had his criticism. And then Antonio Brown hit him with a dismissive uncle, Tom. And man that one bothers me every time it happens like a black dude on television has to has to protect the foolishness of Antonio Brown. Just because he too is black. And now, I don't know if in Tonio Brown has more information than informs this position of his former teammate Ryan Clark. But still that is a retort is among the weakest things you can do from guy who exhibited plenty of week recently you missed a game and a big gate you what you knew you knew the end of their season. And I mean, you don't think you should be criticized. I'm telling you man, I don't know what's happening inside of Antonio Brown. But he. Is the wide receiver for the new generation? Like, he loves all this nonsense is dancing with the stars the mass singer that let me get let me get on in the locker room while my coaches, saying don't be on social media. And I'm going to go Facebook live here, they was Instagram, but still it's funny. I mean as coaches saying no social media this week Antonio Brown do thirty thirty like some of this should be going away. Thirty years old. It's crazy. I don't that locker room is crazy. What's been the morning? I thought the Seahawks locker room was the best locker room in sports when it was going at least it was winning Super Bowls while there were fistfights. That's right. That's right. Well before the Super Bowl because Percy Harbin was who did he do that to golden Tate Showtime? Let me tell you without paint who loved hockey and always wanted to play in the NHL Pete played since he was three and begged his mom to let him stay on the ice by some nights. He even slept in its hockey skates. Practiced and practiced by two one day when he was forty seven Pete realized he just wasn't that good. So he threw his skates in the trash. But then you heard how Geico proud partner of NHL good save money on car insurance. So he switched and saved a bunch. So all worked out donlevatar waits a thirty six year old man in whoop up on any of us with relative ease. I got a feeling that one of us could take away. Wait. There's no combination of two of us that could take twain Wade. I cannot take twain with Mike and ROY are the nominee knocked Dwayne Wade insane. Roy D feel like you could take the way to the woodshed. That's in woodshed. No, no, absolutely not. Stugatz. We are fighting Dwayne window rules. We are fighting Dwayne Wade. For sure yahtzee. Oh, yeah. I'm good at Yati. Putt. Putt. I'll beat him at basketball. These these live with our show with his two guys on ESPN radio. ESPN radio is presented by progressive insurance. Guests on the Dan lebatardshow appear via the shell Pennzoil performance line. Here's your sportscenter update. The Lakers will play the nets in China. The beginning two thousand nine hundred eighty two thousand twenty season. There is no expectation of the fourteen college football playoff to change its format before the current twelve year contract expires. And finally American Colin o'brady became the first person to traverse Antarctica alone, without any assistance, trekking the polar continent kinetic fifty four day journey that span nine hundred and thirty miles the Thirty-three-year-old documented his nearly entirely uphill journey on his Instagram page, though, others have traversed Antarctica. They had assistance with reinforce supplies of kites that helped propel them forward in two thousand sixteen British explorer, Henry wars lead died attempting an unassisted solo trip across an article collapsing from exhaustion towards the end of the track wars, lease friend and fellow adventurer. Lewis rod also attempted an unaided trek in his friends honor and was competing against o'brady to be the first to do it. But finishes trek two days after o'brady. What happened? I'm sorry. We were talking. So I mean, the whole time I'm sorry that Mike. Read it. I'm sorry that we did that. But what he said to me in my ears while you were reading is look at him look at his face. It looks like it hurts him physically perverse read. And so that's what we were talking about. I'm sorry. We distracted you. But Mike was just saying that your face. Look like, you are a little a little scared in a little in pain. Reading hurts. We didn't completely ignore. What was going on? Because I said we have to stop talking because look at my man's face. To read the end finally pages. Lara. I shouldn't have done that. And I'm apologizing to you publicly. I'm offering you a public apology. Okay. So had to accept it or back to you. Okay. Thank you all the way to the sports that are already SPN radio all throughout the day. Alison, this is an awkward transition here. But we do want to before we leave today. Remember friend of ours that had a really funny relationship with the show over many years, and we were discussing during the local hour, whether he's a comedy legend or not I don't I don't think most people would think of him that way. But he certainly worked with almost all the people who you consider legends. And most of them would tell you. Yes. This was a professional funny person. This guy aged well, which comedy does not each. Well, he aged well, and so we lost them. And Allison had a had a I don't know. Can I reveal anything about like what happened to you the day of with with his wife or sorry? I'm sorry. I know I asked you about that on air instead of off air, which is what you do. That's right. That is what I do. But yeah, what are you willing to share with us about about your relationship with Bob? I mean, we just somehow in an odd way. We've developed a friendship, and we talked and he liked just reminded me in a weird way of my grandfather. And I would just I would just call him a lot. And I wanted his I would call him when Colbert started his show. What did you think about this? What asks him after Saturday live after cold opens? And he would tell me stories of being on Letterman, and Johnny Carson and working with red FOX. And I just I love talking to him. So I just we developed this weird odd friendship or your talk all the time. It was the strange thing and his wife didn't think of a strangest wife cold, you the he she called you inform. You of this news because because he liked those conversations with you so much I had spoken to her before because he had been sick. He had the flu. When the like there was like a bad flu, I think it was last year and I hadn't spoken to him. It was maybe a month, and she had reached out to me and said that he had been sick. But he admits. Our talks, and then so I got a call. He always calling me from a block number, and I got a call from a block number on Wednesday. In the last time. I talked to him was around your birthday, and he didn't sound he started. You didn't sound good. And so she called me, and it was in the middle of the afternoon. And she said Alison, it's bird, Einstein are you working? And I said, no. And I just knew and then she started to cry. And she said, I just want you to know that Bob had passed. And I wanted you to hear from me and not read it. And she just said he he loved the show. He had so much fun. And he so enjoyed the friendship and it just touched me. I was like I just and I said to her how wonderful he was. And she said it was the time in my life. I spent with him, and it was just yeah. We loved him. We're going to break on on that note and come back with the montage that that remembers Bob Einstein. But just so that you know, I mean, I would walk into that shipping container. Her so many times when he was on a speakerphone, and he was just yelling at everybody and everybody is laughing, and that's that deal the court net. Dude was so good at laughter. And so he'd be doing his own show for those guys and refusing to come on the air with us for how many years because the show was cursed like how how long he hasn't been on the air with us. It's win. It's over a year as soon as Alan Thicke died. That's when he put us failty failed on he was so gracious with this not just for us. Right. There was a time. When I told him, my mom that he was my favorite my mom's favorite television. Character. He picked up the phone and called my mom and spoke to her for like, forty five minutes. No. That was great, dude. Man. We will. We will remember him next donlevatar? Stugatz. Played. No, no BCC donlevatar show with stugatz on ESPN radio super, Dave Osborne. As we mentioned we lost him. And we wanted to remember him the right way. So this will probably have a good amount of laughter in it and the laughter is going to make Issam Braham guessing. But we will miss our friends super, Dave Osborne. Bob einstein. Bob, Einstein's one of our favorite super, Dave Osborne. Curb your enthusiasm. We love this guy. And I want him to sing wicked game by Chris Isaac. Or if not sing it than just read the lyrics. I would like you to take out my garbage stupid. But I don't call you for that. Dumbest idea I've ever heard in my life. I think that gronkowski's not human. I really mean. I think they feed him out of their hand when he gets off the field. You couldn't hate him. There's nothing you can do because he. When he plays gronkowski should be patented for something, right? Ever seen a human being off the field any likes snort to him? Knowing anything spoke. He says in the hot slobbering at breathing sneezing and stuff. Knows his own name. They rko into you. Gronkowski. I'm not talking about in the game. I'm talking about in public. You've got to put a leash on if you roam around how many retirements can you have? You have. His jersey took us nipples are sopping. Can you do I he's a joke? He took his what off. His his nipples. I didn't say that. Don't you love to see when the Cowboys lose Jerry Jones face after all that plastic surgery almost completely cracks like a mirror. And you pick someone there. Have you picked someone the last two games? I said I'd like to eagles are playing. I plan to Cowboys there. You know that right Redskins. They're made. Gonna wind up beating to cut mental. Before we get to the picture. I called you awhile back and ask for your help in booking Jerry Seinfeld on the show, and Jerry has it been on the show yet. So let's go on wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute them. How knowing for doing that? And how inappropriate was he said you're little by that. I told him you should be annoyed by that. What were you real feelings about that request noise? It is it's a normal the big request at all. You said you were to call you lying to me that what you were lying to me, of course, because you're. You're like I'd like you. I love your show. But I was totally lying. I'm not going to call. Anyone you know, Weiner is say something without offending you. Yes. That's a horrible last. Thanks. I just. I would would've changed that you know, it's a different world today. Today's stars are snooky and the guy with the risks guy with the ribs. What's his name situation situation? You know, what I love is that you're protecting him. It's like I've set Frank Sinatra. But no. Like making fun of me. Who doesn't turn this? Will you like on dancing with the stars? You got Ron tests. You've got Ricky legs. You gotta Kardashian in there. The brother the mail. News everywhere. I look I stepped in today. Take it anymore. These guys loved the episode. I've only seen clips of the episode of mature. Say what did you do? Now. What you've been doing? You know, something I'm going to say one thing. And I'm sure you haven't talked about this. But at Betty, Ford sooner or last week, I saw Barbara Bush talk that Cal never really ages. What you were just talking about. Hysterical because. To go to today. You're gambler, aren't you super Dame you gamble? Yes. No. I don't know. I don't be only Gable. I've ever done this doing this show. Okay. The highest risk. I've ever taken. I love is when I asked you producer. What do I get for doing it? He said if you win you get to come back over gives people callers. Yeah. Back. Coby back. I tried three times calling me with a stupid question. It's been news. The thing I would love hands those question because I. Have a lot of fun. I like living my. It's one of my favorite things to do. Get up three the air breakfast by TI parked if I'm not I'm not. All. Very simple black and white. I don't like the break color into this. But. It's simple, and too many people die Juno a Eleanor Roosevelt joke. No, okay. Hello. It goes into Franklin and he's working. And she says Franken Dolly look at me when you see the difference. And he said I'm busy now sweetheart she said just look it looks over said, oh, you're wearing a new dress. Bit looks good. No, new shoes. I like the no now, Paul, no. You said darling. I'm loss. What is it? She said I'm wearing a gas mask. Oh. I just want to say how honored I am to follow thick and say, Jack, that's pretty good. You must have been very you must have been very disappointed when you called Merv and found out he was dead. Right now labor day's actually Adam wet, Allen's dick. Jane, Shelley Berman. Beyond. Mabere day yet. So big salute to the debt. Me show radio or television who. Died. All right. And I would go on. It is weird that you wouldn't come on our show because Alan Thicke died on our show. And you think our show is cursed, but you just came on our show. Bring that up. I mean, I'm just saying now you're on the show so your purse. What if something happens, you're gonna laugh, probably when you want when you want to say something happens to me, and you say, wow, there is a Kurd. No. You want us to be somber funeral laughter funeral. I got to work with such great people when I was a kid, Steve Al is like my second father. And I used to co host his show is radio show and his television show, and I just had a very very lucky fun life. Sure. I found that. I imagine like many of you did heartbreaking. But also just what an honor to guts that that dude who comes from the Letterman era, where Chris Elliott would be hiding under the seats in the studio that that dude would grace our universe as a guy who knows comedy as a of it. This is of the mind, we only exist in your head in a lot of ways for that guy to understand that him shouting from the shadows with something that he wanted to be associated with like, that's that's it's touching that. He would that grace us with with his comedy chopping. He kind of start with the smothers brothers. He's an institution. Yeah. And he was just hanging around in the shadows of our show. So we will all miss him around here. But man, yeah. Yeah. You had us laughing. I forgot. That's how good he was man. I forgot for seven minutes that he was gone cash. More of the Dan Le Batard show with. Stugatz. Ten to one eastern on ESPN radio on ESPN news technology truth brought to you by Geico. Truth. 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They call into that show should've called into our own show. But I didn't do that regardless. He hasn't had a microphone awhile. And he comes in today. And he says I got something for Seth Greenberg. I got something for Dan dockage. And who was the other person you said you had something for Dickie? Okay. So let's let's hear what you got. I don't know what this is about. Well, the UCLA job is open. It's one of the most coveted jobs in college basketball people want that job. And since Steve Alford was fired Dan dockage at Seth Greenberg who do a podcast together. And dig fight tau. He does not do the podcast with them. But he has said the same things that those guys are saying that Rick Pitino would be the perfect guy to coach UCLA because that school needs a guy who's bigger than a program, and Rick Patino, certainly would fit that criteria. Here is my issue have those three who are friends with Rick Pitino. Have they been paying attention to what's going on with Rick Petito? Do you think the three of you? You that Louisville really doesn't want Rick Patino to being coaching their college basketball team. But it was so bad that Louisville got rid of Rick Petito. And now he's coaching in Greece. And I respect those guys. But when you tell me who the next UCLA coach is going to be please give me a name. I've never heard of gimme some don't go back to the well every single time to try to get your friend. Rick Pitino a job, and that nonsense, and it is nonsense. Okay. That lady to coach who was bigger than the program. Ben Jalan was he bigger than a program. He got them the three consecutive final fours to championship games. I it's not Rick Patino, certainly Greece's fine. I'll give them Greece. He does not deserve to be the head coach of UCLA, and those three should know better as responsible adults to even suggest that Rick Patino after everything he's done should be the guy George of eighteen year old kids at UCLA. It's absurd. I'm sorry. Are are you? Sorry. You're good now. Mike what happened? You gotta let the air out of the tire. No. But it's the thing to learn like, we've got you got, you know, how when your car tell you sometimes that, hey, you know, your tire pressures. No good here. Do you? No, I've heard about it read about it. Listen up saying that I respect those guys. I do I respect their college basketball information. I really do dick Vitalis college basketball more than I love anything in my life. But then you don't have to qualify it. They don't that's fine. But how can the reward for what Rick Petito has done? Okay. Be UCLA one of the most jobs in American out Greece's perfect. Well, he is Greece. And as long as you allow that you're gonna be selling your soul because it's not amateurism. You just wanna win. Then he's pretty good choice. If you don't care about education like what you care about is winning and like we could strip it down. But Seth Greenberg dick Vitale, and then dockets you've made an awful lot of money on that sport. And so they know they know in that sport the money is made by winning and Rick Pitino like, I wouldn't touch him. But if you allow that it's the porn industry that it's that it's the using up of bodies that college. Sports is the using up of bodies. And I shouldn't even call it. The porn industry because the porn industry pays better. It's the using up of bodies. Of course, you should bring the coach who was the prostitution scandal. Of course, you could like and he's really good and he's Gracie. And if you're willing to take whatever the blowback is your fan base will get excited once they get past their morals. Yeah. Of course, they will. But then I'm just saying you can win without Rick Patino agreement. Prove it agreed. Agreed. The bigger problem that I agree with you on is that we've got all these coaches in the media who are friends with other coaches and stuff, and that, you know, their opinions are just perpetually pro coach burned-out one on our show like they're just perpetually pro coach, but they're respected opinions. Like, I feel like UCLA sits there they listened to dockage in Greenberg addict vitality, and then they start to ponder. Wow. Those three think it'd be a good signing. Should we actually go with Rick Pitino? And I'm just saying those three can no better. That's precisely why his friends are doing it. And and at a mother's handed be good. And it'd be good for him. Like, it'd be good for both parties if you can get past the blowback. I mean, what do you think Patino is doing by going degrees? Like he can't stop like he needs to be doing. Why the hell would Rick Pitino? Go to Greece a nice place, even food worried. You can go to Greece to not work. That's that's a good point cook. With a lot of garlic. So we've got a lot of football to talk about today. We'll see stugatz. Stugatz. He came in hot upset Patino. Hey, did all this at Louisville. And here's your reward. A pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, which UCLA the most coveted job in America after Duke and North Carolina house the time to get Patino cheap. So I just I'm always laughing at the idea of morality with business with this kind of business with any kind of business, really. But with in this business where you have to believe in the construct the mythology of shamateurism, you have to believe that that SIS boom, Bah and not greasy car sales because it's greasy car sales. It's greasy car sales. And you know, who wins the greasy est car salesman? Well, except the Villanova Jay Wright is just beautiful. Yeah. He is. Well, say that way, then if your vitality dockage, it seventy say that what say, hey, it is what it is rip potatoes available. So just go get but don't position as. Great coach, and a guy's gonna do all the right things when he's at your program. He's proven that. He will not what the right thing is winning. I don't want to talk about this. Is this weird wild card Monday start. Well, I listen to just I was you know, I was getting a little bored. Two weeks off is is a week too much for me. And so this is the thing that infuriated because I kept seeing you need the thing with stugotz is will get that all show trying to get in unless we get rid of it at the beginning. We got to get rid of it at the beginning. So he could settle down only show in America that hasn't used an opening segment by saying the words, Cody parkey, can you give me the Spanish call of that? Have we got clearance on the Spanish call waiting on clearance? It's been sent them. I loved my favorite part of all of the football. All of the football this weekend and nothing will happen tonight. In the national championship game that will top it. My single favorite part of all football was after that. Cody parkey kick bounced off of two uprights the bear mascot under the goal posts fell in a way that was crestfallen. But you could not tell it was crestfallen because he could not change the smile on his face. So of the bipolar depressed bear who represents the mascot for Chicago for the Chicago Bears, and that great defense that that great city thought was going to take them to the Super Bowl collapsed in a heap still smiling because he can't do anything but smile like he was he was hurt. He was right. He was in position to be at the center of the jubilation. And instead, Cody parking. I be so mad if I were Khulumani right now, I've got more sex than the raiders, I'm busting my body getting past these three hundred forty pound people and at the end of the game, my season continues or doesn't continue my money continues or doesn't continue being paid for football games because the soccer players coming out there. And and banging it off to post. Oh, it's also a pretty good deal for him. Because number one rated defense. They they blew it. It blew it to Nick foles. They could have not had the kicker kick by stopping Nick foles and game would have been over the point. But it's all on Cody parkey, it's actually pretty sweet deal. Right. Cody parkey except the losing port. But yeah, but no one's blaming Khalil Mack. Or that defense know, how could you? Well, you could you could oh, you could might just who would you you could because there Mike said, but no one thought I would say that if the Chicago Bears hold you to sixteen points, they probably expect to win that football game. Trubisky was good. He's good enough. They had a fourth down play and Nick foles threw pass to golden tape. And then they met went down the field, and they don't but the margin for error. It's just amazing the margins in these games. Like there is no difference between what like one team had to finish with the victory. But what you are watching between Chicago and Philadelphia they either both deserved to win. They both deserved to lose whichever way. You want to look at it. But it's a beauty of the wild card round. The better teams are supposed to be waiting for you in the next round. So then you could probably say there's a difference between the teams, but in terms of wildcards. Yeah. Those are those are two even teams McCain execution. Did it? That's what you say. Well, they're separated by a point separated by fingertip. Donlevatar? And finally the Carolina Panthers have a sommelier Lear on staff. Wine expert, small EA you to try one more time. No still guts, which ought to get a little can I hear it. Again, the ARA silent. It's French it's French. And finally the Carolina Panthers. Have a Somalian staff does not a small out of that. Is Molly is not Molly Mike, let me hear it again, small EA at finally the Carolina Panthers have a small lay on staff. Perfect PCC, Don live at our show with Stu gods on ESPN radio. We lost a couple of friends during the break friends of the show friends for you guys, we exist in your mind, largely on radio and podcasts and this person's personality the extended holiday break, not like more in this commercial break the dying hopefully has done for now for now. Yes, hopefully, it is so Bob Einstein. And mean, gene, Oakland, we are working on montages billion, Chris and everybody's working on montages. We'll have them for you before the end of the show because we want, you know, to eulogize them our our own way because it was pretty brutal. So we'll we'll talk about that later in the show. But Stu gods is still got a lot of sports opinions and he was getting mad during the break. Because as we know most football analysis is bad. Most of it is bad. A lot of people watching football. Don't really understand what they're watching. And then beyond that, it's not it's not just that that would be bad enough. But nobody knows what the hell is going to happen in any of these games. Like anybody who could pick the eagles yesterday. Congratulations. But like very little to do with your knowledge like it's just a couple of things the right way. And you got to be right 'cause you pick the eagles. But so when people are saying Nicole's, Nick foles Nicole's after he scores, whatever it was sixteen points, or they're saying that the eagles are more relaxed when they have Nick foles stugatz has your answer for what's happening with the eagles. The athletic has your answer for what's happening with the eagles. What's happening with the eagles to tell them? What exactly is happening with the eagles? Why all of a sudden, they're winning football games and winning football games on the road. And they looked better on the doesn't matter. If it's Wentz or folds. It really doesn't during the four game winning streak. The eagles faced Aaron Donald J, J watt and Khalil Mack. Those three players have combined for a total of zero sacks and three quarterback hits against them. Their offense of line is getting held. It's back. Yes. Like their offensive line is as overwhelming as anything we've seen just a malicious Tom Brady and Bill Belichick and the patriots in the Super Bowl work clearly the best unit like last year. There was no question. This year will end, and we will have questions about who is actually the best team because there are twelve or ten good playoff teams. We'll have questions at the end there wanting to question at the end the last year, we all knew. Oh, yeah. The eagles were better than everybody else. Yes. I mean last year. Yes. That was defeated of this year is going to be totally totally different thing. You're right. Any of these teams to me could win the Super Bowl? I mean, any one of these is I'm not going to be surprised his nuts. There are very few surprises. I would say Dallas would be pretty surprising to God's if Dallas won the Super Bowl. You don't think that would be pretty surprising? If Dallas can even go through the eagles again. I'd be surprised by that. I mean, Dallas I guess beating the Rams on the road. And then we'll have the eagles one. They'd be home against the eagles. Yeah. I could see Dallas get into this. I mean, the eagles almost beat them last time they played in Dallas. How uncomfortable with the Super Bowl be if the cavalry? Make it because Tony Romo would be calling the game. Because he'd he'd be home arithmetic or it'd be it'd be like home broadcasting. I mean, those Cowboys those former Cowboys do you think he's going to be rooting for Dak to win a Super Bowl here question. Lots of certain. I'm sure neither. All right. Put it on the poll is Tony Romo who might be broadcast. A will be broadcasting the Super Bowl. Rooting for deck Prescott to lose the Super Bowl. That's the question. Correct. Like the guy that he cared about on that team Jason Witten is no longer on the team. So I think Romo we'll be rooting against the Cowboys. Yeah. I care about Jason Garrett. Give Jerry Jones. I cared about was made friend. He's rooting for. Now is rooting for a massive blunder. All so that'll make people forget about when he dropped the ball. He's going to be rooting for bad tied laugh so much Stephen A had to take a beating this weekend. But was that whoever thought of that God bless the evolution of Stephen Smith? And I take and everything that's happened at ESPN that would allow Stephen a Smith to walk into Dallas with a giant hand-held sign of Tony Romo. Fumbling that easy field goal. Hold against Seattle before Dallas played Seattle. That's funny. Right. I mean, it is funny to walk into a giant crowd of cowboy fans holding. What is it's either that or Leon Lett for the single most embarrassing thing. That's ever happened to them. Right. Yes. But you're playing Seattle. That's that's laugh out loud. Funny. I mean, it is it's great. When I say, it's the most embarrassing thing to happen to them. I meant on the field. It's an important distinction. With those Calix they seem to still get really mad at Stephen A every time he's had our as it's so great. He's just playing the wrestling Keno. And I wonder how many sports fans understand that. Like, they're getting mad at the wrestling manager, who's evil. Like, I I wonder how many of those Cowboys fans understand that he needs them to be mad. So that he can be the evil wrestling manage to. They also understand is a really good chance. He's going to have the last laugh there's really good chance because I don't believe I believe that's why Stephen as doing this. Because he knows that. That's the team. That's not going to burn it. Anna Deavere, they go the more. It's gonna hurt when they would be surprised if the team left standing at the end of this was Dallas. And I think most people would even after seeing them beat New Orleans. We were all stunned to see him beat New Orleans at home by a field goal. Would that be the most surprising? It would be them at the colts. Right. The colts started one in five. That's that would be pretty surprising. Yes. I want to get into other football things. I can you put this on the poll, did you know that Christian bale was British before last night? I didn't know Christian. But I didn't know I thought it was American. I didn't know anything about his nationality. His accent surprised me when I do you have that sound gear MO of the Golden Globes. What does that show? A that. He is performing. And what is the name of it is it dick or Americans. Vice right. It shouldn't be what I just said you close. It should be what I just said. Right. But it's vice and it wants him awards last night. Do you have do you have the sound of Christian bale talking because I was not the only one surprised by how Christian bale sounds because I've never heard Christian bale? What he sounds like when he's not an actor. Now, the Golden Globes are not easy to get cleared. But the problem. Okay. I didn't know he was British until right now what his ass addict come out during that reign. The when he was acting the Terminator movie wanted to sequels. Can we get that? Please. Please get that. Do we have that sound cleared is the sound cleared on Christian bale going crazy on a light guy? That is one of the greatest rents in the history of this show 'cause shouldn't bail Allison. What happened? It's definitely not cleared that I can promise you is there any bail sound that's cleared where he has an English accents or anything that. I probably should have brought this up on before we started doing nationally broadcast radio show to one of you guys. Is there any sound cleared that would allow me to show the audience that doesn't know that critics Christian bale is British or doesn't know what? Christian bale sounds like when he's not acting. Is there any sound? I could go to to show the people what that sounds like probably not. I'm english. I'm Christian band. More money more parole. Never good impersonation when it ends with you having to tell people who you're impersonated. I thought it was. Allison, give me Christian bale. You watch the clubs I requested him. And I will tell you this. I got an Email response was before vice that said Christian doesn't do radio. Tell more podcast. Dr pepper. That's great. I loved the Christian bale says I simply won't do Radi. I wrote tell what should be honestly, it's how it should be. The national championship. We've told you is tonight. You gotta get your bottles. Puddles of Dr Pepper. I did radio. Of this try that time. I I can't be the worst one around here with accents. Because my father is. But he's close like accents and impersonations or rail plague for God all of them sound like a terrible terrible. Christopher Walken cash. More of the Dan labor. Our show with stugatz. Ten to one eastern on ESPN radio and ESPN news. We have got a lot of things to get to a lot to talk about over the next two hours, honest thing from the sports weekends to God's his weekend. Observations Richard going to be basically two weeks of blow torch, he said two weeks off without a microphone, and how many pages do you have there? It's going to be the longest Jesus. I mean, it's never seen you with three pages. Three pages of notes, you have three pages and Mike, Mike lessen the fun. So it's not as they hit a squeeze all of this in. All right. Well, we're doing that next then because it might the rest of the show that I look at all these thoughts. God's has from his time off. It's an unending list of thought he wasn't able to get to you during the time off. So he's gonna give you all of it now or in ten minutes. Jared Allen is taken up curling. Have you seen that Jared Allen? That's right. Jared Allen wants to make the Olympics as a curler. Can you get that sound Billy? Please of Jared Allen the time that he got find in the league. It was a funny story. Jared islands a good talker. I always enjoyed talking to him. And he got fined in one of the most ridiculous ways that anyone has ever been find in the league. And I'm going to tell you about it because his his celebration was deemed sexual in nature and put this on the poll as well. Listen, do you do you want football to have more celebrations that are sexual in nature? Here's curler Jared Allen. I started out my rookie year in honor of college roommate he was tied end. So he's the say refund, you know, how you go bodybuilders a slap this die, then shake it out. You know? So I did that my rookie year, but I got fined for sexually suggestive behavior. So that one went out the window actually say that it actually said sexually suggestive baby because that's all. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was sexually suggestive behavior five thousand dollars. What? Chris can you find for me the exact amount of time that went by time the way we've done the measure the measurement forever time not full-time time with Lamar Jackson not completing a pass yesterday in a playoff game. And how crazy that had to feel for Joe flacco who's highest-paid paid player on the team that thing they won't go to him that you're sitting here. And what you're getting at quarterback is general incompetence like that that's up with him though, man. They did stick with them. And they're gonna stick with them. And that seems like it's a gimmicky way to try and play football. It doesn't allow for a lot of margin for error when you need your defense to play like that. And their defense was good. God they make it difficult for Philip rivers. And Melvin Gordon whenever they got any kind of space or time. You were surprised and Philip rivers was like most quarterbacks would've bent over. What Baltimore was bringing? Because he was getting rid of the ball fast yet. I mean, you only had two hundred sixty yards and five yards per se, but against them. You just don't wanna make the giant mistakes. She wanna make Lamar Jackson Beechy. You wanna force? Lamar john. Do you wanna force the rookie quarterback? I thought they made a bad decision that game kicking the second field goal when they when they could have given the rookie quarterback who was fumbling all day. If they missed the field goal. They're giving him the ball back with a good defense inside their own five yard line. Like, I started going for it anytime. I'm in inside the ten yard line against the ravens if I can pin. Lamar Jackson share deep the way that he was playing. And I've got a good defense. I'm gonna put him deep and go for the seven. I was so nervous for Philip rivers towards the end of that game. I really was because you just assume that all game. Like, hey, Philip rivers. They're moving on, you know, but you have to wonder though, I know sports fans across the country know, the feeling that I'm talking about now, which is you see your team up six late. And you're like, oh, no. I know what's going to happen here. I know what's going to happen. I'm going to change the rule. I make touchdowns worth less. I know what's going to happen here. Like, that's what was happening to charter your fans, and maybe even Philip rivers himself. He's thinking to himself. Lamar gonna score with twenty seconds here. And I'm going to have to go the length of the field with no timeouts and when exactly two hours without a pass. Exactly. Jackie two hours. Thirty eight game minutes up from one oh seven to three. Oh, seven no complete a pass. Believable. How good is that Baltimore defense that it could sustain how the nation is their coach. Good is that both of our defense that just got sent out of football. If they're sitting there carrying a quarterback who hasn't completed a pass for two hours. It's unbelievable. In the game, the modern NFL the chiefs scored fifty. Two hours without a complete path. Man, I understand why the ravens would think they can win the Super Bowl that way they've done it once with just all and Trent Dilfer. Yeah. But you don't think you could do it in two thousand eighteen but this this weekend was like a throwback. It was nineteen thousand isn't a fine. Why would it be fine? I got your find me for calling the charges from San Diego before. Yeah. Yep. All right. I can't believe it's taken this long to get to it. What the hell was doing? Hell was say doing he goes into the locker room. After a victory. I think we were all little surprised by that not necessarily that the Colt won. But winning that way you basically didn't allow Houston do anything and you're manhandled their front for. Only I'm a perfectionist guys. I know you guys you got Moore in the tank, okay? Like thirty one points, baby. Maybe. I'm sorry. I don't wanna be screwed screen. I love. One of the important think they played well enough. But. They could play better. Left ten points behind. They won the game. He loved him. They love ten points behind. He left a bunch of cash and pills. What happened Mike? No good. Come and cheap shot. Teach. Gamma put it on the poll was that a cheap shot on bobber set. Who'd Bob, Bob, Jim jimmer. Oh, my goodness gracious. Yeah. Bob Ursa God. Jim's dad or twenty nine hundred got to be the same story. Yeah. The worst. Evidently, this is unbelievable. This works with time. This is how it works with age. Yes. And then you're like, dammit, Jim, I think you were going to call them Irving, man. This is a mess. Bobber say left us in nineteen Ninety-seven many recipes at least that one wasn't so bad because there was a bobbers who the hell Stanley Jeffords. I'm still trying to figure out our overweight figure out for an hour. I. It was John Jefferson the chargers wide receiver Stanley Jefferson. We don't know we think he had a Cup of coffee with the Mets. Did you see what? Donovan Mitchell did to Andre Drummond while we were off. Donovan Mitchell take that as a no Donovan Mitchell. I did spend my vacation you jazz basketball. Oh, you spent it calling Golic and wingo show. Assumed you've spent your your time off betting on games like jazz, pistons, I would assume that too so Donovan Mitchell scored seven straight points against Andre Drummond. And then just starts yelling at him. This is your fault that I'm so hot. You got me. Angering just kept yelling. This your fault. I feel so bad. I have him Mitchell score straight seven straight points. Shoot a jumper in your face. And then yell at you, go to time out your phone, and all you can do about something like grab a rebound maybe into anything. You're not gonna. Flash. Some moves on Donovan Mitchell. I want you guys to examine for a moment. Okay. God says money makes everything right money money. Does buy you happiness. According to Stu guts makes you happier. Softens the below. How does Joe flacco feel about yesterday just everything he was watching yesterday? Like, if you're not gonna pay if you're not gonna play your highest paid player in that spot. You're done playing them unless Lamar Jackson gets hurt other. Flacco get traded. How does he feel? I mean, he probably feels pretty bad. But he also feels pretty wealthy. He he gave us a real look into a soul there with what was happening with him where he just simply said, it's not the most fun position to be. And then I really think that Joe flacco revealed himself to us like cut open his chest cavity and showed us his soul. When he said, it is what it is. Deep flag. Right. It's from the ROY catalog there is nothing ROY enjoy saying more than it is what it is. Which is just a waste of words. I felt didn't didn't the owner of the Carolina Panthers. Whatever the hell. His name is tapper. I'm going to say, but I'm guessing. Man, you rattle the owner of the Carolina Panthers. Didn't he say he invented the phrase? It is what it is. He that he invented it. David tepper. I was close. I've been saying that long before he has really all put it on the poll. Guillermo who invented it is what it is? I'm already in for twenty dollars and fine Tam rusty. I haven't done show in a while. And I'm rusty. So I've got twenty five dollars on the console. You back the bleep upper. I'm gonna hit you in the Asaf donlevatar. Metal nets have to be right up there with like ice skates as the most dangerous things that people do to play sports, right? Because you know, that the people that are buying those metal nets are largely kids. And if they have a hoop that they lower it's like at seven feet tall, and they're just dunking on them. And you know, the fingers are getting stuck in those nets to God's in track and field the gun they shoot off. That's kind of dangerous now, it's not an actual gun. I don't think it's harder to shoot anything. I know it doesn't actually shoot a bullet. Nothing comes out of it. Just sounds these live at our show with Stu gods on ESPN radio long overdue with two weeks of no ability to spew blue. Oh torch opinions into a microphone stugatz is here with his weak and observations. It is time for to guts to share his skin notes. No, one in the media will tell you what happened. But at the my voice to wake up sufficient brought to you by vivid seats with the vivid seats app, it's easy to find awesome seats tiny game download that and enter promo code champs at checkout to get ten percent off your first order. We are back. The Sixers should hire Tom v. Lebron James trust me when I tell you. This is firsthand information. It's tough being the guy who goes after Phil Jackson who clearly did it. No posse was offensive and then say after posting music lyric that has the words making that Jewish money in it. So you had no idea. It was offensive. You made the same mistake. He did. And I hate that. You just made me defend him because after Kevin Durant. There is no one in the NBA. I have less respect for that. Phil jackson. Oh, jesus. What happened there championships or eleven champion? Eddie Kaye on my record buck, and then he came to my team, the New York Knicks and what he do. He sat around sleeping at games making fifteen million dollars a year zero ring. In my personal record one zero. Except for the one that he won with the Knicks as a player, and I'm not even certain I wanna give them ninety very ancillary roles. Get defensive player. That's it. Hey, coach, Jordan. Someone was going to win those rings Kobe and check. That's. Man. Lebron just comes out owns is mistakes. It's real it's smart. It's genuine and I hate when he makes me like him. I can't speak for Tariq Cohen. But LeBron I'm Jewish and working Tuesday, December twenty fifth two thousand eighteen all my couch with my hands down my pants. I'll never forget where I was when he got hurt both hands both of them. Yeah. Cold day. Do you? Remember where you were when he got hurt. He got hurt. Yeah. That's what I love is that he showed up, but again awful with a with a glass of red wine, but he should have been managed Schevitz. You got. Crossed that one out by the Mattis you now is your next line. Despite not making the playoffs. The titans are somehow still in the mix. Marcus mariota is listed as questionable for week. One Notre Dame more like Notre lame December twenty ninth two thousand eighteen will be forever remembered as the day that two heavyweights duked it out for the title of most overrated coach in America, hit graduations to Brian Kelly for finishing strong and winning by the slightest of margins over Jim Harbaugh that being said New York Jets, please sign Jim Harbaugh or John just sign a horrible. If there was an award for a guy who couldn't win the big one. It would be called the Mark richt award. Mark richt more like more quit. No way quit. He's a quitter came back to fix the you had a bad season. And. Now, he's gone. And you know, he's gonna coach again, I that is a gift. He's don't know that coach somewhere else and not win the big one. Notre Dame is my prediction anyway, Manny Diaz temple Cup of coffee. Manny Diaz calling temple a dream job. An eighteen days later leaving his dream job for the university of Miami and calling that his dream job. Manny Diaz this through. This is strong, and you Brian Kelly, the Tampa, you have to be bucking kidding me. Drew Rosenhaus Antonio Brown match made in heaven. Speaking of heaven, really surprised my trust trusted you with the left it in there. Speaking of heaven, Gary Busey once told us he's been there, Dan, you don't want. Manny Diaz did to the coaching staff. The you know fired it he cleaned house. Philip rivers said winning a Super Bowl won't define his legacy. Philip. That's cute. Ben Rothlisberger blame levian bell for being a distraction and contributing the team not making the playoffs. Ben pretty certain you're sixteen interceptions and coughing up. The Denver game had more to do with your T not making the playoffs and the only distraction was your fat face. I'm sorry faces that. Demonstrates the behavior of being fat curb Streep got mad at a college player who decided not to play in a bowl game. But have the audacity to show up to the game to support his teammates? I wasn't aware that in his spare time Kirk was head of the who can and cannot attend games committee Herbie also how do I get on that committee Antonio Brown? Your act is getting all that being said New York Jets. I'm begging you trade for it Tonio Brown. Why would Danny green yet a tribute video in the first place if anything Danny green should be presenting the Spurs with a video tribute showing all the highlights of how players they drafted made him relevant. Danny green, Danny green is anybody. In fact, the back of his jersey should read anybody the Houston Rockets are better without Chris Paul. More like CPI, you're better without me dirty. John ripping television watched that show on. No Valerie does it's gripping Jimmy Butler. Do me a favor. Do something anything. I'm begging you until then shut up Jimmy Butler up telling you now, this is how it's going to work every day. I'm gonna like. Yup. And till you zip it up every day. I'm not going to shut up it till you shut up every day for the last ten years either. Mr. and MRs Grimes has felt disrespected Indiana Pacers. Why it is twenty six and thirteen start in NBA history. NFC GM when asked by jets reporter about true main Johnson who the jet sign to a five year seventy two point five million dollar contract last March. What did they not do any research on that guy? We all make mistakes, but that guy. Oh my God. I hate them pretty certain. We're not making a bigger deal about an NBA player who is scared to go to England because he fears the president of the country. He was born in is trying to kill him. There is no one in the history of the NFL that I trust more with a backdoor cover. Then. Russell wilson. You know, what Morlin MAC gives the goal? Amen. But then is there anyone in the history of football. You Trump trust more with the back door covered. Then Russell Wilson. I had a plus two and a half. I was ever sweating. It. Were you Mike doesn't know how to play games that are not close? I wanna do it, Dan. You know, what Moreland MAC gives the colts a running game a different dimension simple questions game for your life. Andrew luck, Patrick Mahomes, who you want simple question game for your life. Andy Reid or anyone else who do you want? What happened Gregg Popovich said he felt bad that Spurs fans booed Kawai while somehow keeping a straight face. Speaking of face is the man with a fake one might have a football team that is for real Seahawks. Cowboys the rare match up in which a significant person from each organization has a face that can be used by Bank robbers was it me or did everyone else felt like they needed to run for cover while watching the chargers raven game. Did you notice that you didn't hear the whistles you? I didn't look up in the sky. You didn't think things were crashing down to earth. You didn't see any of this. Did you watch the game? I did anyone else experiences. No, one was I on elephant. What did you experience? I'm not understanding what you experience. From the sky like meteoric. She. And I looked up a number of times. It was alarmed I felt like we had to run for. I felt like it was the end. Now one. No one else felt I don't know. I don't know hill. I don't know what you're talking about the whistle. The things falling from the Scott. Maybe it was just. Winning a road playoff game. This is not your father's San Diego. Chargers. That would be because then the Los Angeles chargers, Clemson, Alabama, the whole ball of wax. You know, where Philip rivers wears his emotions, Dan. Honestly. Hey, there you go. You got one Philip rivers, even what it should be easy. It's not if holding happens, but doesn't affect the play. It shouldn't be called. Thumbs up in their Mike agrees with me. It's ridiculous fifteen yards away from the plight. Best thing in sports is the delayed reaction by kickers after they've pulled a hamstring. Sebastian Janikowski, more like Sebastian jet. How cow ski, but it say that right Janna out ski we have Wednesdays with STAN Thursdays with fibs. There's eagles. That's why they call it wild card weekend. Looks like Cody will have plenty of time for long walks in the parkey Said's have the better team eagles had the better quarterback death taxes and the Houston Texans losing it home in the first round in the playoff on ESPN on Saturday JJ watt during the chargers ravens game tweeted. What do you look at well JJ, I could tell you. I was looking at two teams who weren't knocked out of the playoffs yet. JJ watt was more active during the chargers ravens game. Then he was during his own game. Jon Gruden one Khalil Mack. Nothing. Alabama. Clemson, go home. Actually, the winner also goes on. Everyone goes home at the end of the night. Go for why Leonard blame the media per Spurs fans Billingham really you quit on the team and city, and it's our fault. Why do me a favor? My all hell team needs a small forward. When you get there Salo, no or prowls, and if alot is too much just give them a head nut, then those are the weekend observations. I enjoy. I want more of this with my sports bucks game the other day. There was a turnover when they were playing the raptors and they played the laugh of Hawaii Leonard throughout the arena. That's funny. ESPN radio is presented by progressive insurance. Guests on the Dan lebatardshow appear via the shell Pennzoil performance line. Here's your sportscenter update. The college football playoff national championship. Presented by AT and T is tonight. Coverage begins at six thirty eastern on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. The Lakers will play the nets in China to begin the two thousand nine hundred ninety two thousand twenty season. And finally in the coming weeks, seventy one year old navigator Jean Jacques Salvin will attempt to cross the Atlantic Ocean and a barrel using only the ocean's currents to carry him across. I mean, come on, dude. I mean, what are you doing? What are you doing? You think it's just a barrel. I mean, look at a picture that things on a barrel. It's like a hotel room. It's ridiculous. We we talked about this a little bit last week, Dan. But like you weren't here. Have these people not heard of airplanes like you know, that you can get across yet lanting very quickly on an airplane. And before that there were concords, which you could get across the Atlantic. Even faster. It's going slow as poss- I'm not going to you for opinions on human achievement. Seventy one year old honestly, also like spent time with your family. We don't know how long you're going to be around like don't waste time. Just throwing yourself into the ocean. It seems like a waste and he's just writing currents. I mean, I guess you can predict where they're going to go. But you don't really know me Christopher Columbus ended up somewhere by accident. What if this guy ends up somewhere in like, you know, she layer something he's trying where's even trying to get to just across the Atlantic. Where you're trying to get no is the penalty would have you seen the size of this barrel bedroom barrel. It's not. And you know, he's gonna motor similar Annetta. They're gonna tach onto it. You don't get to ride the currents. Right. Everyone's got to go to sleep sometime when he does that all of a sudden, the motor goes, you gotta pay thirty grand a month for something of that barrel size in New York City, exactly. Donovan Mitchell clarification Donovan Mitchell ill wants to clarify something. But still God says to finish the read that I forgot we were doing because Billy interrupted the sports is brought to you by Wendy's. The giant junior bacon cheeseburger is only at Wendy's. 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He knows what's coming next. But we gotta be somber. Now, you gotta get your crocodile tears ready. Okay. We lost. We're going to be in this hour talking about a couple of people that we lost over over the break who were friends of the show and people who might not have even known who they were before they came on the show sort of a socio them with our show. Because they were so colorful, so fun and over years, they gave us a lot of content entertainment. I remember when we talked to me, gene, Oakland for the first time, and you know, how much I loved wrestling as a kid me, gene, Oakland became who. You know, Gordon, solely was the wrestling announcer from my lifetime, but it's never been done better than mean. Jean Oakland did it because he wouldn't break character except for that one time that a wall fell behind him. He would always be the straight men always except when he was doing radio interviews with us like the first time, he joins us because first of all he's Nadi was not excuse me, naughty, like he likes to work blue and inexplicably kept saying to end our phone calls work it like it was his catchphrase to get off the phone. It was disorienting us. It's how he said goodbye is is working. So we remember him fondly around here and we've had to death like this while we were. Off. But Chris Cody has put together something. Oh, it's been a lot of years that we spent with me, gene, Oakland and making us laugh every damn time. He was on with us. Here's a little something to remember. We go out to mean, Jean ochre Lynn, the legendary voice and face for so many wrestling things, it's a travesty. Is it not mean Jean mean, can I call you mean me me, and you can call me j just don't call me late for dinner. When I say means, you know, Kalin is a pimp. You think what I'm a pimp? If you're having dinner with whole Cogan and an ice cream comes out. It's a lot of ice cream. Do you order to is? Granted you share it dessert. In your sure as hell wouldn't have done it with Andre the giant where you joining us from me, gene. It's been a long time since we spoke to I've missed you missed you greatly. Where are you joining from? I just have to be on the number twelve t gator creek, Sarasota, Florida doing what I do. Best drinking need, gene. Oakland four to six tomorrow, the dolphin mall. What are you gonna do? What are you going to be there? Your your mustache is a little sideways. My mother how many drinks in are you right now. I mean, come on not just wondering, oh, he's not any drinks. Early in the day where noon here, I'm having a nice warm Cup of coffee. Hot Cup of coffee. I do have a little Irish gimmick in there. If you're caught me a little later in the day. Regularly on the back into high test by this. That story of you. And Rick flair drinking the nature boy was very uninhibited guy. And all of a sudden after a couple of martinis he was up on the bar, dancing, Canada, Opole dance that might be at the end of the nights best story at theory was with a pair of wing kipps at a pair of stretch compress, knee, high socks and that was it. Yep. A Bloody Mary tomato. Juice lemon. Thank you double vodka. What was as you were saying? All right. Means you with us on seven nine hundred ticket you were at resume. Why were you there? Well, what do you think? What do you think you're playing with? If I was there because they were paying me you end telephone conversations with the expression work it which strikes us as odd and not terribly age-specific. All your sports guy there reads out of the sand lawn telephone book, and you're you're telling me what I'm Andy my telephone conversations with Dan, you've got a lot of a lot of nerve. I'm sorry mean Jean we have to we have to let you go. We have to fire. I don't know if you've ever been fired before in your career, but I I have to tell Dan I'll tell you something you can blow it out your shorts. You guys miss read. Because I gave you four winters, and I did go in the sewer on the one pick. The what are you talking about mean? Jean? We had an accounting error the week before we are you calling me a liar. Yes, you can blow it out your own hall of fame shorts mean, gene. Me here on the air. I'll tell you what you'll never work in my town. Again, you're outta here mean, gene, we're done with you. It was a beautiful relationship for one week. But you cost us money. And we've got to let you go. And I'm sorry. I'm genuinely sorry, but no need for hostility. You don't make me. Call human resources that not not a fumble for dinner Saturday night me, gene. Thank you for being a friend of the show. You guys always great to. Visit have a have a cocktail for us. Working. Yeah. That was a bummer, man. I'm calling Mikey's by as is over the where the ocean, he's by his favorite soccer stadium. And he's just blubbering blubbering, Mike because we lost the famed wrestling announcer from our pass it really for Mike Mike has developed some relationships around here with Rick flair in the mean jeans, his father used to be a guy who drove around snooker and somebody else so his child like a piece what what he was crying about is that a piece of childhood died, and and a friend of of our show. Yeah. Well, I kind of consider me gene, a bit of a friend. I met him specifically talked about the show, and let me tell you. He says work it in person to to end the conversation is always super nice to me personally, and our show really gonna miss them. He was you could put them on. And it was guaranteed. Left's. Is he the baron t great content every time we had him on. It's never miss is. He the best sideline reporter ever. Like, I know he's not a technically a sideline reporter. But like, that's what him and Sager. It's him and Sager that's the list. Yes. No one else. Gamma put it on the poll who's the best sideline? Reporter of all time. Is it Sager is it mean Jean do we have any other nominees? Do we have any other nominee Burke is pretty good? Is he? No come on. Transition time for some. That's all I mean is he's not my class. Come on there too. Dot is in that class action is I've noticed Sodano the Browns. Brown. It's getting more TV time. In our Browning pie crust America is climbing fast at a much faster pace than clotting by the afternoon show. He's got on in Los Angeles before. Genuine Georgia's my friend. I'm really happy for. I mean, giant crocodile tears, man. I was so happy that giant crocodile tears came out. They were tears of happiness, Dan donlevatar. Wayne waits a thirty six year old man and whoop. Up on any of us with relative ease. I got a feeling that one of us could take the wait. There's no combination of two of us could take twain, wait. I cannot take twain with Mike and really are there. Not not to join weight. And you insane. Roy do you feel like you could take the way to the woodshed not would shit. No, no, absolutely not. Stugatz. We are fighting Dwayne well rules. We are fighting Dwayne Wade yahtzee for sure yahtzee. Oh, yeah. I'm good at yachts. Putt putt. No, I'll beat him a basketball VC's live at our show with his two guys on ESPN radio. ESPN radio is presented by progressive insurance. Guests on the Dan lebatardshow appear via the shell Pennzoil performance line. Here's your sportscenter update. The Lakers will play the nets in China. The beginning two thousand nine hundred two thousand twenty season. There is no expectation of the four-team college football playoff to change its format before the current twelve year contract expires. And finally American Colin o'brady became the first person to traverse Antarctica alone, without any assistance, trekking the polar continent took an epic fifty four day journey that span nine hundred and thirty miles the thirty three year old documented his nearly entirely uphill journey on his Instagram page, though, others have traversed Antarctica. They had assistance with reinforce supplies of kites that helped propel them forward in two thousand sixteen British explorer, Henry wars lead died, attempting an unassisted solo trip across Antarctica. Collapsing from exhaustion towards the end of the track wars, lease friend and fellow adventurer. Lewis Rudd also attempted an unaided trek and his friends honor and was competing against o'brady to be the first to do it. Buck finishes track two days after o'brady. What happened? I'm sorry. We were talking. So I mean, the whole time I'm sorry that might work. I'm sorry that we did that. But what he said to me in my ears while you were reading is look at him look at his face. It looks like it hurts him physically for verse read. And so that's what we were talking about. I'm sorry. We distracted you. But Mike was just saying that your face look like you are a little ski little scared and a little in pain reading hurts. We didn't completely ignore. What was going on? Because I said we have to stop talking because look at my man's face. Say read an aunt. Read the end finally there pages. I shouldn't have done that. And I'm polish ising to you publicly. I'm offering you a public apology. Okay. To accept it. Or back to you. Thank you all the way to headlines that information to the sports that are already SPN radio all throughout the day. Alison, this is an awkward transition here. But we do want to before we leave today. Remember friend of ours that had a really funny relationship with the show over many years, and we were discussing during the local hour, whether he's a comedy legend or not I don't I don't think most people would think of him that way. But he certainly worked with almost all the people who you consider legend and most of them would tell you. Yes. This was a professional funny person. This guy aged well, which comedy does not age. Well, he aged well, and so we lost them. And Allison had a had a if I don't know. Can I reveal anything about like what happened to you the day of with with his wife or I'm sorry? I know it's okay. I asked you about that on air instead of off air, which is what you do. That's right. That is what I do. But yeah, what are you willing to share with us about about your relationship with Bob? I mean, we just somehow in an odd way we developed a friendship, and we talked and he liked just reminded me in a weird way of my grandfather. And I would just I would just call him a lot. And I wanted his I would call him when Colbert started his show. What did you think about this? And I'm gonna ask him after Saturday live after cold opens, and he would tell me stories of being on Letterman, and Johnny Carson and working with red FOX. And I just I love talking to them. So I just we developed this weird odd friendship. We talk all the time. It was the strange thing and his wife didn't think it was strangest wife cold, you the he she called you to inform you of this news because because he liked those conversations with you so much I had spoken to her before because he'd been sick. He had the flu. When the like there was like a bad flu, I think it was last year and I hadn't spoken to him. It was maybe a month, and she had reached out to be and said that he had been sick. But he had missed. Our talks, and then so I got a call. He always called me from a block number, and I got a call from block number on Wednesday. And the last time I talked to him was around your birthday, and he didn't sound he started. You didn't sound good. And so she called me, and it was in the middle of the afternoon. And she said, Alison, it's Einstein or you working. And I said, no. And I just knew and then she started to cry. And she said, I just want you to know that Bob had passed. And I wanted you to hear from me and not read it, and she just said he he loved the show. He had so much fun. And he so enjoyed the friendship and it just touched me. I was like I just and I said to her wonderful. He was and she said it was the time in my life. I spent with him, and it was just yeah. We loved him. We're gonna break on on that note and come back with the montage that that remembers Bob Einstein. But just so that you know, I mean, I would walk into that shipping container. So many times when he was on a speakerphone, and he was just yelling at everybody and everybody is laughing. And that's that deal. The Gordon that dude was so good at laughter. And so he'd be doing his own show for those guys and refusing to come on the air with us for how many years because the show was cursed like how how long he hasn't been on the air with us. It's when it's over a year as soon as thick died. That's when he put his foot failty failed on us. He was so gracious with this not just for us. Right. There was a time. When I told him, my mom that he was my favorite my mom's favorite television. Character. He picked up the phone and called my mom and spoke to her for like, forty five minutes. No. That was a great dude, man. We will. We will remember him next donlevatar tweet. To guts. No, please. No DCC's liveth our show with Stu gods on ESPN radio super, Dave Osborne. As we mentioned we lost him. And we wanted to remember him the right way. So this will probably have a good amount of laughter in it and laughter is going to make this Ambrym guessing. But we will miss our friends super, Dave Osborne. Bob einstein. Bob, Einstein's one of our favorite super, Dave Osborne. Curb your enthusiasm. We love this guy. And I want him to sing wicked game by Chris Isaac. Or if not sing it than just read the lyrics, something I would like you to take on my carpet stupid. I don't call you for that. Dumbest idea I've ever heard in my life. I think that gronkowski is not human. I really mean that I think they feed him out of their hand when he gets off the field. You couldn't him. There's nothing you can do because he. When he plays gronkowski should be petted for something. Right. I seventeen human being off the field any likes snorts to the wings. Anything spoke of when you think he says in the huddle slobbering at breathing sneezing and stuff. Thinking knows his own name croc. We're going to you watch gronkowski watching gronkowski. I'm not talking about in the game. I'm talking about in public. You've got to put a leash on him. You roam around how many retirements can you have? He took off his jersey took us nipples are people sopping. Can you do I he's a joke? He took his what off. His his nipples. I didn't say that. Don't you love to see when the Cowboys lose Jerry Jones face after all that plastic surgery almost completely cracks like a mirror. Did you pick someone there? Have you picked someone the last two games? I said I'd like to wait eagles are playing. All right. Sorry. I plan to cap was you? Yeah. You know that right Redskins. They made a. Wind up beating. A mental institution. I wanna know before we get to the picture. I called you a while back and I ask for your help in booking Jerry Seinfeld on his show. And Jerry has it been on the show yet? So let's go wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Tell them how knowing was for doing that. And how inappropriate was he said you're little annoyed by that. I told him you should be annoyed by that. What were you real feelings about that? Request. It is. It's a big requested. All. You said you weren't a call. You're lying to me that what you were lying to me, of course, because you're. I'd like you. I love your show. But I was totally lying. I'm not gonna call. Anyone you know, Weiner is connect say something without offending you. Yes. That's a horrible last. I just we I would have changed that you know. It's a different world today. Today stars snooky the guy with the risks guy with the ribs. Whoa. What's his name situation situation? You know, what I love, you know, what I love is that you're protecting him. It's like I've set Fred Sinatra. You even know who the situation. Fun of me. I don't know turt- is when you like on dancing with the stars. You got Ron tests. You got Ricky lake you got a car dash in there. The brother the mail. Everywhere. I look I stepped in today. Take it anymore. These guys love the episode. I've only seen clips of the episode. What did you have to do? Now. It's. To what you've been doing? Now, you know, something I'm going to say one thing, and I'm sure you haven't talked about this. But at Betty, Ford sooner or last week, I saw Barbara Bush talk that Cal never really ages. Is that have to do with what you were just talking about? It was hysterical because thirty eight years ago today, you're gambler, aren't you super name you gamble? No. I don't know. I don't be only cable I've ever done this doing this show. Okay. See later, hopefully. The highest risk I've ever taken. All right. Would I love is when I asked you producer. What do I get for doing it? He said if you win you get to come back over gives people callers. Yeah. Back. Call you back tried three. Calling me stupid questions, but the thing high which love it those question because I. Have a lot of fun too. I like living. It's one of my favorite things to do. Get up three the air some breakfast. If I bark if I'm not, I'm not that's all. Very simple black and white. I don't like the break color into this. But. It's simple, and too many people have died. Juno. A Eleanor Roosevelt joke. No, okay. What goes into Franklin and he's working? And she says Franken Dolly look at me when you see the difference. And he said I'm busy now sweetheart she said just look it looks over. He said, oh, you're wearing a new dress. Bit looks good. No, new shoes. I like the no now, Paul, no. You said darling. I'm loss. What is it? She said, I'm wearing gas masks. Oh. I just want to say how honored I am to follow thick and say, Jack, that's pretty much have been very you must have been very disappointed when you call Merv and found out he was dead. Let me right now Labor Day. Actually, Adam went Allen stakes. Shelley berman. Beyond. Labor day. Just so that's a big to the debt. No me, showing radio or television. Has someone on? All right. I'm going on. And I was going to go on this weird that you wouldn't come on our show because Alan Thicke died on our show. And you think our show is curse? But you just came on our show. Why did you bring that up? I mean, I'm just saying now you're on the show so your purse. What if something happens, you can laugh probably wouldn't you want? When you want to say something happens to me. And you say, wow, there is a Kurd. No. You want us to be somber funeral? Do. Want laughter at your funeral? I got to work with such great people. When I was a kid, Steve Al was like, my second father, and I used to co host his show is radio show and his television show. And I just I mean, I had a very very lucky spun lice. Sure. I found that. I imagine like many of you did heartbreaking. But also just what an honor to got that that dude who comes from the Letterman era, where Chris Elliott would be hiding under the seats in the studio that that dude would grace our universe as a guy who knows comedy as a this is theater the mind. We only exist in your head in a lot of ways for that guy to understand that him shouting from the shadows with something that he wanted to be associated with like, that's that's it's touching that. He would grace us with with his comedy chopping. He kinda start with the smothers brothers. He's an institution. Yeah. And he was just hanging around in the shadows of our show. So we will all miss him around here. But and yeah, yeah. You had us laughing. I forgot. That's how good he was man. I forgot for seven minutes that he was gone. You can listen to the Dan lebatardshow with. Stugatz. Thank to one eastern on ESPN radio on you can wash on ESPN news.

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WKPWP - Keller interviews historian George Schire; (5-7-15) Eye-witness details on emotional Verne Gagne funeral, amends made, more

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WKPWP - Keller interviews historian George Schire; (5-7-15) Eye-witness details on emotional Verne Gagne funeral, amends made, more

"One of the great benefits comes with a VIP membership is access to our unmatched library of pro wrestling torch newsletter back issues in the late nineteen eighties and nineteen ninety s before the internet pro wrestling was documented in print newsletters contemporaneous. Sleep packing a week's worth of news and results and Qa interviews with some progress in Vegas newsmakers in the pages of the Pro Wrestling Torch weekly newsletter when you become a VIP member you instantly gain access on our W. Torch visit our website to year-by-year listing of all fifty plus back issues from every year. Dating back to the late nineteen eighties through today and every week we update the format of our twenty years ago back issues with PDF text format makes it easier to read on your phone or your tablet and the latest twenty years ago back issue. 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Our Star ratings are news coverage of that era or just settle in and read fascinating interviews with some pro wrestling's biggest names in their longest form interviews talking about the inner workings of the wrestling industry before there were podcasts with wrestlers hosting and talking about such things the torch talk series was the only place you could go for long form interviews with pro wrestling's newsmakers torch dot com slash Kgo. Vip in times like these in times. Like these I think you'll get more out of VIP membership than ever so check it out now. Pw Torture and spreaker bring you the wade. Keller pro wrestling podcast. It's time for this week's interview classic. Where Wade killer interviews one of pro wrestling's newsmakers five years ago? One of pro wrestling's longest running most successful promoters and world champion wrestlers. Vern Ganja died. He founded ran a headlined. The Awa the American Wrestling Association which was the one of the top three brands of the pro wrestling territory. Days along with the NWEA and w. w. w. f. and I was joined last week by Awa announcer mic Karsh and Awa wrestler Kenny. Sod Buster J who also did yard work for Ghana thus the name sod buster and this week on interview classic. We bring you my interview with George Shire Wrestling Author and historian mild co host on the pro wrestling focus. Radio shows back on Back in the early nineties on. Kfi and he attended the Burn Ganja funeral and he gave eyewitness details on the emotional funeral including details on Gene Oakland. Ganja giving speeches amends being made and much more plus he just gave his perspective on Verne. Ganja with some great memories and stories so enjoy. This partout are look back at the highly influential hugely successful and controversial. Vern gone if you don't know the history professional wrestling vern Ganja someone you need to know about and so Last week showing this week show or really good primers and if you are a longtime fan you familiar with vern. I think you're gonNA thoroughly enjoy. The stories will add some color and detail to his career both on camera and behind the scenes. Welcome to the W. Torch live cast. I Wade Keller editor and publisher of the Pro Wrestling Torch weekly newsletter since nineteen eighty seven and also P W torch dot com a pro wrestling website updated with news commentary live TV and paper result specialist columns history editorials and so much more book market. Check it out every day customized for your desktop your laptop your smartphone and your tablet. That's PC TORCH DOT com. I'm also host of this. Dpw towards live cast on Tuesdays and Thursdays this show is available live and on demand at P W torch live cast dot com. We are on five days a week through Friday and also Sundays after major pay per views. Join US Monday at eleven thirty Eastern about twenty minutes after rock includes for a live call in post show with People Your Torch Dot Com assistant editor James Caldwell and often joined by Greg Parks at the top of the show for some instant. Ron nalysts on Fridays. The old Monday Kruger's Mitchell and Travis Bryant from East Coast Cast Dot Com are now hosting on Friday starting at seven eastern so in the of the week Tuesday Wednesday and Thursday run at five THIRTY EASTERN TO THIRTY PACIFIC. Time live on Mondays right after Robert. Twenty minutes after raw and on Fridays at seven eastern. That's our new lineup. As of just over a month ago and we've had some really good feedback to it so far so Things everybody for that. I have switched interview Friday to interview Thursday and I am pleased to introduce my guest a returning guest here at cw towards live task for interview. Thursday and that is wrestling author and historian. George George. Welcome back to the program. Hey wait it's always good to be on with you. How you doing my friend. I'm doing very well You YOU and I go back I'll even further than what I'm about to say. But you were the CO host of my progress and focus radio show on. Kfi Am for a long time in the early nineties. And you have since. Come out with a A wrestling book titled Minnesota's Golden Wrestling From Virgin Ganja to the road warriors and people can find that book at bookstores and online Online booksellers George the first wrestling name. You mentioned who's going to be the major focus of today's program and that is Burn Ganja and we welcome phone calls from people interested in talking about Awa. History in particular version gone yet. But we can broaden that out. George Shire is an encyclopedia of knowledge. I'm not sure if people don't what encyclopedias are anymore George Wicked he's a Wikipedia of knowledge and then some And we don't WANNA be. I don't WanNa be a wikipedia because that's not always a correct source so that's I like encyclopedia. I like encyclopedia. We'll stick with that quote antiquated term. I said something about newspapers on facebook the other day. And somebody jokingly said what's the newspaper so It is crazy but George I know it's been a emotional week for people who have followed Wrestling pro wrestling in Not only the Minneapolis. Saint Paul area. We're in Ganja was from and are the Powerful territory the AWA was headquartered but also People who just newburgh ninety from all the different territories and all the different he wrestled including heck headlining Madison Square Garden and I saw that you quoted in the New York Times about during Ganja when they wrote their obituary on Verne and also you were interviewed on WSB radio which I listened to live and am institution in this market What kind of What kind of sense did you get of the media reaction over the last week and a half to do you think that the scope of his impact on this community and really the wrestling industry has has been honored by an in acknowledged in the ways that you think it would have after he died? Well you know Wade you mentioned like The New York Times and you mentioned You know the radio shows and things like that and I I guess what I noticed is as I went online and looked at the various newspapers around the country that were covering stories on Ganja and I mean we're talking the Boston Globe and the La Times and as we said the New York Times Chicago. I mean it just seemed that The passing of Verne Ganja really had an impact and for me. Personally I guess when I looked back no I would never say that Verne. Ganja was one of my personal favorite wrestlers through the decades but I respect that the man and I always always enjoyed every match. She was in and when I realized in heard that he had finally passed away. I had that feeling that. Oh my gosh this is the man. This is the one wrestler that has been around my entire life. Since the day I I became cognizant of pro wrestling which wage you know goes for me back to about the mid fifties when I was six seven years old and so it was. It was just a realization that like a piece of me and I think that's where it came from from a lot of people around the country that had been around forever. Like I am that this was the one man you know this was before the crushers and mad dogs and everybody and Burn Ganja had passed away and you know we should point out to folks that furnace has had a tough eight or ten years. He has been sick. He has Had been dealing with the dementia and Alzheimer's I have talked with Greg Ganja. Probably once a month for the past seven years and we kept in contact and always it was interesting about. You know how Verne was doing and the struggles I tell you what the struggles that the family had and it was very apparent and I think we can talk about this as we go on our show today but I attended both of the visitation for Vernon this past Monday night and then I also attended the memorial service and funeral at the church on Tuesday. And I tell you this and anybody that was there knows I'm telling hundred percent truth here. There was not a dry in that church during the service. Yeah everyone every wrestler. That was there every fan. That was there every friend of the family that was there. They were wiping away. Tears at various times during the Emotional videos that were being played during the service during the The family sharing personal things about them as a family and vern a wrestler. And then both Greg Ganja who delivered a Eulogy. Greg broke up several times and then the eulogy at the end. I mean Jean Oakland and they brought. They brought the church to tears. I mean I sat behind Tell you sat behind. Jim Brownsville His wife Mary I sat with them. Were Paul ellery. Steve Olson now ski? They were wiping away. Tears literally wiping away tears and as as was everyone it was it was extremely and as I walked out of there after the service we had a great dinner of course luncheon like they always do at funerals but we had a great luncheon and as I was walking out. I said to my wife. I said you know then to a lot of funerals in my life family friends. I mean we all attempt to animals and all of us have our reasons for being sad and memories that we share of our own when we go to these such things. But I said I've never been to a funeral that for me just as a person because wrestling Wade as you know has been my whole life. It is who I am I am. I am bonafide wrestling every single day of my life and it was just I I. The words escaped me as to the emptiness that I felt that. 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I'm not sure what kind of phone you're on talk a little less the Mike Mike. Clear up a little bit of the over modulation static. We're getting we're just dealing with a brand new hifi switchboard this week and I want people to hear what you're saying really well and I that that is just bill to bring us into The emotions of that moment and to share that with us is really special. And and I really do appreciate you doing that. we set the scene a little bit. George for the visitation and the funeral in terms of The the scope of it. How many people were there? Did it seem like a a big public event? More of a private Kinda give people listening to this idea. 'cause I mean Ganja for decades and I'm not exaggerating George we're not we are not Embellishing for the sake of of trying to build this up. Vern was a celebrity institution who was pretty much unmatched in this city. Or I should say unmatched 'cause Harmon killebrew. Bud Grant there's other people in you. You live through it. I was a kid. You can speak to it better than I can. But from the in the sixties and seventies especially vern there was nobody bigger in this town member. Well you know way. That was something that I had pointed out to some of the media folks that I spoke with last week. You you mentioned that you had caught on guessing. That was the John Williams show and I was on with Roisi and Sushi Cherie and John Heinz and and You know the deal was vern. Ganja was you know and you mentioned Harmon killebrew. If you went back to the sixties and the seventies here in the twin cities area the Minnesota area fern Ganja was as big a celebrity as Harmon killebrew as Fran Tarkenton as bud grant and when you when you looked at the media back in that day earn Ganja was all of the the major functions that these other Sports celebrities and stars were at and so he was very recognizable. And you know the thing. That's really interesting. Raid is that you can talk to non wrestling fans and they've heard of Verne. Ganja they know who've earn gone you're was they may not have watched wrestling. They may not have cared for wrestling but they knew who earn. Kanye was when I walked into the church. The Church Service on the visitation was held at the Pax Christi Community Church in Eden Prairie Catholic Church and when I walked in there on Monday night the family had put together a nice Ray Of photos and framed pictures of Verne's career. There were several Videos going wrestling and interviews and different things that Verne was talking. Burn himself talking and it was just a feeling of run guy was in that building and people of all ages were immediately reliving a lot of their lives. I I looked at. I looked at the age groups Fans are friends and all of them were telling their own story of how they knew. Burn whether it'd be as a personal friend fishing partner a business partner. They all had their stories. They remembered their favorite match. They all remembered when he wrestled this guy or that guy and they all called the sleeper hold and there was rumblings of jurists the vitamin supplement that Verne Sold in the Or you know in the sixties and people want to his diner power and you know it was. It was almost as you walk through the church. area you just kept hearing all these little different things and you know me as a as a follower of wrestling for the last six decades whatever it is. I found myself just being a mask in all my gosh you know. And of course I've got a zillion in one stories about Vernon and the the thrills that he brought. You know me as a fan and it was interesting. Know when you look at your staff all of the people there and you asked me about whether or not it was fans or friendlier. Our family there were there were obviously just dozens and dozens and dozens of friends of the family. And they're going to pay on yes. I didn't I didn't notice as many what I would call the You know the average fan that maybe just attended some wrestling carts here and there. It appeared by what I heard. And what I've seen of those that were there and that you know as we go on we can talk about some of the people that I I knew. Were there recognized but they were all The way it was set up to they had I guess you'd call it a receiving line for lack of a better terminology. Greg God bless him. He stood down by the Church Altar and with with you at various points around the altar where his family his sisters Donna Kathy and Greg's Sons were there and his daughter his wife and as the friends and family were walking through and passing through next to Greg was the the The Awa world title belt and vern or I'm sorry greg he literally spent. I was there for three hours on Monday night. And Greg stood down there the entire three hours and talked and hugged and shared stories about Verne. His Dad and it was very emotional. Because Greg was literally the whole night just on. Monday night Wiping away tears as where his his sisters and you know it was. It was a funeral. That was a service like like. I said I've I've never been to one like this It was just. You felt your thought. Such you felt such a eerie feeling. Bit this was a big piece of I for lack of a better word your whole life. Everybody's whole life and I you know like when you go to a normal funeral if you attend a funeral of a friend or a coworker or maybe a cousin or an uncle or or GRANDPA. Yeah we all have our moments that we remember and they meant something to us but we're not connected to the other people a lot of times that are at these events at these services but at the gone. Yeah Service. Every single person there was formally and there were so many things that caught your eye. You know I wanNA share this one right up front. 'cause I don't WanNa Forget. This need an extra dose of positivity in your wrestling. 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He is the author of Minnesota's Golden Age of wrestling from Burn Ganja so the road warriors and we are talking to George my former co host for the pro focus radio show back in early ninety. S on Kfi. We're talking to George about vern. Ganja he attended The Verne Ganja funeral this week and he is sharing some of those personal details with us. George sorry about having you call back. I appreciate you giving that a shot. Sometimes phone connections can be inconsistent so. Welcome back. And thanks for doing that. Hey No problem and if it still is not as good as we'd like it I guess we just have to deal with the technology as it is exactly yeah It's always good giving it a shot but yeah please. You had a story. You didn't WanNa Forget. I don't want you to forget it either. Well you know. I looked around the church. And you know obviously it's impossible sometimes for every single person that would want to attend a funeral to be able to circumstances and and things that are going on but it was too very interesting Big and I mean really nice. Flower arrangements with Nice banners on them were present and one of them was the first one that I didn't want to forget to tell about. Because you know I'm GonNa tell you something myself and a lot of people. There are times when we can bash the WWE and Vince McMahon. For the way wrestling changed us. Old School. Guys you know we. We didn't like that but it is what it is today but there was a beautiful message and flower arrangement from the Mcmahon family and from Stephanie and triple H and it had a very nice message on it With condolences in sincerest sympathy. Who Greg gone yet and the entire family and a very nice message on it saying thank you for sharing your father. Thank you for all he gave to wrestling thank you for his contribution and paving the road for professional wrestling and I just I looked at that and I thought you know that is very very nice with that. I want to add what Greg Gone. You told me personally A Saturday a week ago. He said that As soon as vern had passed away The WWE had put up the announcement and they immediately. Stephanie McMahon gave a call to greg personally and advised him that if there was anything that the McMahon family could do to assist him with any photos or footage or anything that all he had to do was ask and they were there to help him. In this time and so- Greg was very relieved with that and I was very relieved with that and I thought that was a very very nice gesture. We should point out that the reason of course is that Vince does own all video rights and and everything to the Awa so it was very kind and I thought very nice that they did that and Greg seemed really happy with it and he told me more than once that Stephanie McMahon personally had had been more than generous in calling and letting them know that they were there for him if he they needed anything. That's really great to hear I mean it really is because that and you do hear good stories about Stephanie McMahon. I've there's been some stories that they did not publicize About some some going above and beyond when it comes to some charity work and some special needs fans at buildings The wwe. I give them hard time because sometimes it seems like they utilize their charity work to build or corporate brands. Something Stephanie has maybe Gone too far publicly bragging about even you know that charity builds brand brand equity but they do do things behind the scenes that they do not seek out publicity for and and just doing what you just described is It's really nice. I'm glad you share that story because They don't have to be. They don't have to go that far. They could've sent flowers nothing else. Or you know well and the other thing to Wade. The other thing too was that they did There was video footage mentioned to you earlier. There were several Big Screen TV's in the lobby The in the church itself and they had video different video going in there. Were there were those that were definitely provided by Stephanie McMahon or by you know triple h triple h did side did sign the cards and the flowers. You know his real. I could never pronounce his real last name. What's his last leveque? Yup Leveque and was signed by Paul triple h Leveque Stephanie McMahon and but they they definitely were very kind to do that and I and I also will point out that Greg mentioned to me that upon vern staff that on the WWe blog I guess he was told that the Verne Ganja passing had had gotten more hits than any other thing that the wwe had going on all last week. Wow so I think that also gives the scope to you. Know some of the power in recognition. That Verne gone. You had before I forget about the other arrangement that I wanted to to share with you. Because as I'm thinking of these things I wanNA share all the highlights. Yes there was another there was another and I wanna say really big because a lot of people will send a flower arrangement to a funeral and and that such always such a nice gesture and it's always comforting to the family of of the one that's left us but this was a very very nice big arrangement that was sent and on the card. And you and and I'm gonNA explain to you. What was on the flowers after we tell you what was on the card card to Greg? Ganja and the gun. Your family was from Terry and Jessie Ventura and on the card. It said. Thank you for all you did for me. You gave me the name of the body. You with the legend and it was signed Terry and Jessie Ventura and on the bowl pay on the huge bow K. We're talking things of flowers. This one along with the McMahon one that I just spoke of they were on huge stands that they had to take special space for an arm that Torah arrangement. There was a huge banner across the flowers that sat legend it was. It was very eye catching and very very nice. And I don't know if Jesse you may note wait. I don't know I don't know if Jesse is currently living in Minnesota. Here you know he was not at the funeral of course but He definitely paid homage to burn With that arrangement and I thought that was extremely nice. Some of pro wrestling's best podcasts are. 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And then Jesse Ventura and then Greg Ganja and then burn gone all called him and even with the problems and differences that they had with each other With bobby leaving Because you got a basically doubled his salary to go to the WWF during the expansion years and it was a real blow to the AWA that is upset as maybe Vernon Greg worth time That you know tw- you know closer to twenty years later They were kind enough and gracious enough and let bygones be bygones in that way and and called him and And and he said that even stopped by a while later and surprise bobby and they hugged and and told him wally carbs stories and had shared some good memories. I did not catch that ad so I must have cut off at that. Point weighed but you know the story that you tell of those guys that as I had mentioned that the McMahon's and Jesse Ventura had sent their condolences and sympathy. To The guy is Ganja family during this time with Verne passing. It's not unusual to hear that because you know if what a lot of fans don't realize you know because the stories go rampant to how things happened with the The raids of the territories and things of the days when McMahon was doing expansion. A lot of stuff is true. A lot of stuff isn't it's a matter of trying to set it straight. But you know Bobby Heenan did give a personal notice to Verne. Ganja and he did so in in the way that he he realized that Verne had been his his His employer for a lot of years and he went to earn personally to Vernon Greg and he. He advised them that he had received offer the offer from the WWF at the time and that he was going to accept it and yeah there were there. Were some hard feelings. I'm sure and there were some anger and things you know normal things that are involved but in the end Jim Brown Zell. Who I also I would point out. I talked to Jim. Occasionally and of course I had a chance to see him at the service the other day and Jim and Bobby Heenan have stayed in constant contact over the last twenty years and Jim has also been down visit Bobby and his wife Cindy and so you know the wrestling community the wrestling fraternity of the old school age and it was always a very close knit group. Despite certain feelings and things that would happen along the way because business always causes problems with any company and You know that was obviously the same with wrestling. But they've stayed in. Yeah if I may While we're telling stories of of some of the People that were at the funeral I WANNA point out when we talk about feelings and different things that happened in the business side of things over the years. I don't think it's any secret out. There that burn gone yet and largely. Hennig had outside the ring issues throughout their careers right We will point out as a base for some fans who don't know that it was vern. Ganja who trained Larry? Hennig for the pro ranks back in the Mid Fifties. Larry basically worked with all but all trips to other territories. Larry working career in the AWA. That said And I want to also stop here and say that Larry. Hennig is one of my dearest friends in this wrestling business. We also talk often and he is one of my favorite people he really is. He's a gentleman of guy. He's an absolutely great family man and and I just I admire him extensively however with all due respect to Larry. I've always felt that whenever Larry had the opportunity and got a microphone in front of him he would take that opportunity to throw a jab or two or three at vern. Ganja and make it seem like vern Ganja was the worst human being on the planet earth and with all due respect the Larry. I always felt that was probably in many cases not the right place to do it at different functions and that sort of thing because if they had legitimate beef behind the scenes I I always felt that was between them. But I will tell you this Larry. Hennig was at the service and Larry and I was there and heard him personally. Say this he said there comes a time when we have to let it pass and without run. Ganja. There would've been no Larry Hennig. Wow Wow and Larry. Was THERE HIS WIFE. Irene was there and they are. I WanNa say this again because if by chance They would listen to this or anyone that listens to this. I want them to know that I have nothing. But the utmost respect for Larry Hennig and he is one of my all time favorite wrestlers He was along with Harley. Race is one of my favorite tag teams of all time and Larry is as a wrestler. There was nothing that man couldn't do. He could have been a main event star in any territory in the country had he wanted to. Larry chose to stay close to home and I mentioned a minute ago. What a family man he was. I've I've been a guest at Larry's home in Saint Cloud and when you walk in his home it is evident that his twenty six grandchildren and great grandchildren and his his own kids. That he has they are all over his home in photos and memories and mementos and and Larry loves his family and we all know what a toll it took on Larry. When Kurt passed away his son. Kurt passed away A decade or so ago and we also know how proud Larry is of Johannes who is currently with the wwe wrestling as Curtis Axel. Larry is a very proud man in a very good man. But he did have an issue with Verne Ganja and he buried that and came to the service and it was very humbling. And Larry. You could see that You know get it meant something to him so I wanted to share that too because we hear things about people from time to time and and You know Larry and as I said two I want to point out that Larry with all the talent and his great Mike Skills and everything is a wrestler. I don't think there's any doubt that if Larry had wanted to move around the country and be a big star another territory. Back in the sixties or the seventies. He could have and because chose to stay here. That's why it bothers me or it. Bothered me over the years when he would take a shot at vern every shot every time he had an opportunity. He took Verne's money burn. Put Him on top vern. Never buried Larry Hennig in the cards Larry was his main event or so they both took you know they both took from each other and benefited and for me that you know having worked in the business world myself weighed you know. Employees have a choice. You don't like your boss or you don't like your company or you don't like the principles of the company. You always have the right to move on. And if you don't do that don't be little. Don't tear them down. Don't beat him up because you've chosen to stay there and that's what I want to say about that. But Larry was a big man and he is a great man and I love the man and It was nice to see him there. Have you subscribed to the torch daily cast yet? It's a free daily podcast with shows throughout the week dedicated to ring of honor. All elite wrestling impact wrestling major league wrestling and x t and M may talk for pro wrestling fans. That's Monday through Friday and on Saturdays. Check out the deep dive with Rich Fan where he examines a single topic in-depth and then Sunday nights. It's wrestling night in America with Greg Parks. You can listen. Live or download the show later at torch daily CAST DOT COM. Just click on the live stream link. 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It's not all major names. Who dealt with and to some degree or another able to do that and he wasn't what. What was the wrist in general or specifically if you know well? I've heard many versions Wade through the years that I've heard Larry. Talk about it and I heard Greg Ganja talk about it and I guess at this point I'm just GonNa say that they had. They had some I. I don't WANNA use the word bad blood between them but they had some feelings and it seemed to linger on and you know for the ten years eight or ten years. I mean with all due respect to Verne. Ganja he has not been in a position to voice any opinion or anything because Verne has as we said earlier had suffered from Alzheimer's. And you know when I when I heard from Greg all these different times and Greg tell me how they're dealing with Verne and and how difficult it is. When he doesn't know who he is. He doesn't remember anything he doesn't remember photos. He doesn't remember the family. He doesn't remember when he ate. I mean Alzheimer's. Oh my God wade if there is a bad disease and something that could take a toll on anybody who loves someone A family and everything I mean that has to be it and Greg you know and then so I don't I don't really want to go into all of it. Because a lot of them are stories. A lot of them are are things that he said she said and I just don't. I'm not going to do that in the end I saw greg. Let me point this out. Greg has no issue with Larry Hanoch. Yeah Greg does not and Larry and Greg they hugged. They talked Not only the funeral here. But I've seen them at some other functions in fact I just saw grabbed Ganja and Larry Hennig at the Kenny. J annual benefit for his psychosis this past April fourth. And and and Larry. We're talking in fact they were sitting next to each other at the The Gimmick table signing photos and that sort of thing and They were there fine so keep whatever it was less. I think it's best we leave at. Larry made his amends and A lot of it maybe was just Larry carrying on because he had some feelings that he felt were never never settled. But I think I think Larry settled them for himself the other day George little three years ago and made a public appearance. I think it was. I think it was his last public appearance at the airing of the wrestler movie. Yes was was that. Was that the last time. He made any kind of public appearances celebrity. To the best of my knowledge. It was and I was there that afternoon when when Beth Ganja Verne's daughter Beth and her husband will they were the caretakers for Verne for the past While about seven years And they had brought vern to that event and he was introduced. And you know we you had to know Verne Ganja if you introduced him and you got him in front of a crowd. He had that charismatic smile and that twinkle in his eye and he raised his hands and he acknowledged crowd but he did not know a lot of people. That were there that evening or that afternoon at that wrestler airing Three years ago and one of the people that he talked with what's Dick John Kaczynski and he did not know who Dick John Kaczynski was and there were others that came up to burn and he asked him you know. And who are you and they would tell them. And you know Vernon number friends at business. Together and burn did know but they. It was a brief appearance. They pretty much sheltered him to take care of him and not to get fans in his face or anything like that and you know that was. I think that was his last appearance. We're about to go to another commercial break. Why are you listening to commercial breaks? Why deal with these interruptions when you can become a VIP member support the weight? Keller pro wrestling podcast. Wait Tiller progressing. Post shows the piddly torch daily casts in the entire team and everything that we do and get a ton of return for your membership by becoming a VIP member go to Pw Torch V. 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And the and what Verne Ganja meant mental wrestling and to people and to family and what is affect was on the business. I came across one and I'm not even going to give them the liberty of saying which site it was but there was one site that took it upon themselves to bring up and just be labor. The fact that Verne Ganja was involved in that Horrific here seven years ago at the nursing home where Gentleman actually died. A fellow. Inmate are made that the nursing home had passed away after a skirmish with Verne and they took it upon themselves to leave that as the lasting memory and I thought it was the most sickening thing I've ever seen and that was the only References I'd seen made to it in the various newspaper articles and news stories that I listened to and watched and I thought it was very distasteful. And that's another thing Weighed that when you talk about vern. Ghana's legacy there have been many many many stories that have circulated around to what happened at that nursing home and what really happened and what is said to have happened. And what is exaggerated to set to be? Set has happened are all different and it's really sad that someone would be distasteful last week and bring that up. It was something that got talked about because it was the last big news story that Verne was involved in and unfortunately You know I think as as Greg Ganja was quoted as saying it ended up You know the store ended up being grossly exaggerated in terms of earns role in that incident. George and I think you know to to to think that that should be something that is talked about as one of the last things that people remember about vern wind. The idea that one you know actually had any malice or any awareness of what was happening and to have that story even mentioned at this point you know. I don't know I think Greg said it. Well when he was kind of dismissive about it and just said to say his role in that was grossly excessive to say. His role was exaggerated in that Would be a fair statement. There was grossly exaggerated and I would point out too that the the very day after that event happened. Greg Ganja came to my home and we were talking over some things and Greg brought out the whole thing of the day before and what had happened and Greg gave me his version and that never changed. That version never changed. And the family of the gentleman that died sadly They never had any malice towards vern. Ganja or the situation and Greg. His main thing was that at the time the event took place. There were some news stations. That took it upon themselves to make it a big story because of the celebrity status of Verne at the time. Or you know in the past and Verne never aware that he had even shelved this man he was and so that is that is gone. It's over but the bottom line was One site last week took it upon themselves to make that the story and even went so far is to say and again. I'm not going to repeat who this was. Because they don't deserve it but it was so sad that one of the lines in their their story was that to call Vern Gonyea. A celebrity put them in status after that horrific incident. It was uncalled for. You know and I. I just looked at it and I went. Oh my God. This might be the worst thing I've ever read in my life and I I was angry at the point but then I thought I waste. Why Waste Your anger on the stupidity of some people who just don't have any couth at all and that's really what it comes down to. Every Sunday night catch wrestling night in America on. Pw Torch Daily Cass Dot Com hosted by me PWG columnist Greg Parks each week. I'll welcome a CO host from the torch family to discuss the big shows and pro wrestling taking your calls and e mails. You can listen. Live most weeks beginning at eight. 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I thought I recognized but I wasn't sure and again I will tell you. One notable celebrity that I did recognize immediately was bud grant. That's what I was hoping to hear. Rod was there and But there were several that I thought you know. Wow could that. Could that have been somebody or you know and and lot there were a lot of older folks there. Obviously you know when you speak of the age bracket and We saw a few A few canes and a few walkers and things like that so obviously there were you know longtime friends saverne and and But it was a it was when I mentioned earlier to you about the the displays and things that they had out there. They had a nice board of of pictures of Verne with various celebrities throughout his career. And you know it's interesting to note when you see a picture of Verne with Hubert Humphrey when you see a picture and these were eight by ten photos that they had On place there. There was a picture of Verne with Former president Gerald Ford. There was there. Were pictures there with Verne and The senators Durenberger and and Boss switch and there were pillaged front row at Awa exactly and there were pictures of Verne with Former boxing champion Jack Dempsey and you know different people in the media Throughout the years that burn the bandwidth and Verne was there with them. And and it you know Verne just out of SCOPE. The lady went the Lady. From The New York Times when she called and talked to me last week. She wanted to know she because she had also spoken to Greg Ganja and she wanted to know You know what the real impact was burned. And I told her I said you know Verne was the kind of guy that he H- i Remember. Vernon A kid. I remember vern the wrestler in the sixties and the seventies and he had a certain amount of we. We always use that word charisma but he had charisma that. Was you know you can speak of how Hulk Hogan took over the world with his his persona his charismatic way but in that maybe less character type wrestling world that preceded what we have evolved to today for Ganja have that charisma and when he could walk into a room and he would nobody would he would know no one in the room but within minutes he was surrounded by people and I wanNA share a story with you that Gregogna shared. Greg said that when he was growing up as a kid he said after he had well he said they had made a trip to Washington. Dc and Verne was there with Socializing with Kelvin Griffith and these people with the Washington senators at the time. So this is back. Pre nineteen sixty one and Greg said that then when the senators moved to Minnesota in sixty one. Greg said my heroes. Now this is greg talking. He said my heroes. When I was growing up I loved. Many of the players on the New York. Yankees Mickey Mantle was my favorite hero. He was my idol and he said the Yankees came to play the Minnesota twins in nineteen sixty one and said. My Dad took me into the locker room area where the Yankees were and he said I just about lost it when I saw all the Yankees coming up to Verne and asking for their picture with him and asking for photographs or to get a photograph and asking him to sign their their baller their Jersey or something and Greg said Mickey Mantle was one of them. That did this and what's up to Verne. Wanted to picture with him and talked with him. And Greg said it was then that it dawned on me. Oh my God. My Dad is an idol. My Dad big and Greg pointed that out and he said and Greg was crying when he told the story. I shouldn't say crying but you know wiping away the tears and you could hear the choke the in the voice and it was very heartwarming. And Greg told so many stories about how the family would take trips and they'd go to different towns in different cities and wherever they were people immediately recognized Verne. Ganja and Greg said that was extremely Humbling as a child growing up in a young boy searching for more great pro wrestling. Talk the join me Jason Powell hosting three weekly pro wrestling boone. Podcast each week. The latest news and analysis for me and my team at pro wrestling dot net along with other pro wrestling media members plus the pro wrestling boom podcast features long-form interviews with notable names in the wrestling industry subscribing to stitcher downcast and all your favorite secondary apps or visit us directly at pw boom dot com once again that's W. dot com. And you know one of the things I WANNA. Share is an offsite to this wade knowing greg as I have over the years a lot of people you don't in the wrestling business and fans etcetera have taken shots at Greg. As being the only reason greg was in the business because his dad owned the company. Greg wasn't very good and Greg was this and you know those type of things. Which again are our foolish. But Greg was an extremely proud son. He he really loved his dad. I mean it was evident in every conversation I ever had with him and when you saw him at the funeral he lost his best friend and he struggled over the last seven years with all of the things that Verne has endured. And Greg said to me one time we were having lunch and he said it is so hard for me to see my dad in this in this state and he said sometimes he doesn't even know me and he says then he calls me will and I said to Greg. Well who was will who is will. He says will was one of his uncle's and he said he doesn't know who I am. And he doesn't remember said that's tough for me. And he said I. Greg actually called me one time and we talked about it and then and he said you know. He didn't know how long his dad had any said. He doesn't know how he's going to feel when he passes away and he actually said to me he says George. What am I going to say at the service when my dad passes away and I told him I said what Wild Greg. That's a powerful question because your dad is regardless of who your dad. Is You know in most normal families. Your Dad your mom they are. They are your heroes. They are your they are the very people that have made you who you are and I said you know Greg I guess what you do. Is that the time you you go up and you you say what you're going to say from your heart and I said everybody will know they will understand in Greg. What he did go up to do his part of the eulogy on Tuesday. He got up there and he start. He had a funny line that he because he had followed. And I'll go into this and the minute. He had followed me Gene Oakland. And he he made a comic. Because I'm GonNa tell you what Jean did. So you'll understand Greg's comment when I tell you the gene story but Greg's comment was I don't know how I can follow that. And you got kind of a chuckle. And then he started to tell a little bit about Vernon within seconds. He was wiping his face and he. China hit the side of the podium and he said I didn't want to do this. I didn't I thought I could get through this. You know and that's really emotional. Because here's a man I look at this to you. Got A guy like Greg Ganja. Who's been in front of a microphone all his life he. He's he knows how to to talk to an audience. He knows how to talk to a crowd. He's been in you know he's held meetings. He's been in front of the camera for wrestling and here was a man who was. This wasn't the time when he could keep it together. And so he he. He went through his eulogy and at the end of his eulogy. At of Greg's point the last thing that he said was and I even get teared up here just not when I think about it. The last thing that he said was thank you dad so long champ. Wow you know and and Greg you know it was tough for him so remind me. I want to tell you the gene. Oakland part because that was very good to go ahead. You're okay. Yeah well so after the the normal church service which I wanna say for you know. The the Catholic Church services can be They can be trying sometimes Okay so we'll just leave it at that and I was raised Catholic so they say that they can be long. They can be you know. Let can we get to the end here? I mean let's face it okay but this was a very very beautiful touching service the the priests that Bought two priests over road the service in fact as a tribute to burn the original pastor. Who had started the Ben with the Church at the very beginning? And who was a friend of the Ganja family came basically? He's like he's retired. He came out of his retirement. And came to this and delivered A Nice Homily in an attributive earn himself. So I mean I think that says something but anyway When we got to the I I WANNA point out one thing the Greg set okay. Back up Greg made the comment as he was talking. He said that he was told by the pastor that he has to Only keep this to You know under twenty minutes or thirty minutes or something and he says I want to remind him right now that this was side this was put together by Wally Carbo. And it's a ninety minute no time or no time limit event and it got a nice chuck. Yes yeah got a nice chuckle. And he brought in. Wally Carbos name there to that. 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You WanNa talk about when we go back to People that left Vernon the Awa you know gene was one of those guys he he he started in the Awa gene got his start from Verne. Gene wouldn't Aben gene without vern if you WANNA really be technical because Verne was the one that put the suit on on Gene Oakland and made him the announcer. When Mario Neil back in the seventies was unable to unable to and wouldn't cross the picket lines for a strike and Vernon at the last minute went to Jean Oakland who was the WTN TV WTN is now care. Eleven for those that don't know but WTC on TV at the old. Calhoun Beach Hotel. Where the TV studios were and he went up to gene and bad rush right before the. All Star wrestling program was to begin and said the gene. You got a sport coat. You GotTa do the show for me and gene. He reflected that he did not know how to do wrestling and Burns said. Don't worry we're going to get through this. Just get out there and take the Mike and gene was very kind and in his Eulogy that he thinks Verne for for that. Start and all of the Celebrity that had brought him in the in the career that he you know got from it he said I wouldn't have had that without vern. Ganja and But Jeans Eulogy was a very nice tribute going through earns history where he talked about. Vernice the athlete in College. He talked a little bit about his serving our country and he talked about Vern be a new star out of college and putting the Olympics in nineteen forty eight You know he was an alternate in the Olympics and then he talked about how he came to pro wrestling and immediately which was unusual in that time period. I should point out to the it was very unusual for a wrestler to start a career and be main eventing right away in that era. It just didn't happen. Verne was the exception. So in nineteen forty nine. He immediately was a success because of his background is college. Background is amateur wrestling background and he was when the Dumont Network and gene was telling this story. You know. And I'm paraphrasing all of it right now but he talked about how the Dumont network out of Chicago was you know. Basically the the one link to the country at that point in this new medium called television and earned Ganja along with killer Kowalski and Liu says and gorgeous George and Buddy Rogers. We're but a handful of guys that every promoter in the country wanted to have on their cards and Verne was one of them. And that's one of the reasons that he became a household name. But you know gene also pointed out that Verne brought when we all know this this stuff all of us have said but gene pointed it out that Verne brought legitimate wrestling to the carnival antics that wrestling could sometimes do even back in that day and he said vern. What's the real deal and fans knew that when Verne came to the arena or his name was on the marquee that this was a wrestling match and I was seeing a real wrestler regardless of who is opponent was and Jean pointed out that that was the stardom for Verne through the fifties and when he started the Awa breaking away from the Nwea in nineteen sixty that Verne Ganja had no problem with getting sponsors for the show and you know he was endorsing products? I don't know how many people know this way. But there's a vern gone yet. Board game that out in the mid fifties. They're they're legitimately is it was vern. Gone Your Board Game. If if folks are familiar with the board games and they have a little spinner where you spend the take your turn and you'll go so many squares all this thing and you know well. The board game on burn. Ganja was one of those products in the fifties now back in that era such a thing was really unheard of. It's not on like today. Where marketing for everything in especially the wwe? How well they market Everything for a wrestler but Verne had that that game folks can go out if you can find a game right now you can pay a couple of hundred two thousand dollars for it. I'm sure it was probably five bucks back in the day if that. Yeah but Gino. Cappelletti went through all of this that he had a lot of anecdotes and and told about you. Know How they tape and he said you know burn would get excited when something didn't go right and and and you know but vern was the boss. He wanted the product to be right and he said Yeah wasn't as glitzy as it is today and his as professional looking but it was for the for the era was the state of the art and and vern started the color era in Tv and one thousand nine hundred seventy to one of the first programs in the twin cities in the in the local media market to go to color if fans don't realize that it is true that all star wrestling was one of the first color shows. Even though color had been around since the mid sixties you know in various measures but all star wrestling Verne was the first local market television show with wrestling. That did that. Here's what I want to share about gene at the very end and this I tell you Wade if you looked around the church and I did and I was one of them. That did this as well when gene delivered the line. I'm going to give you. There was not a dry in that church wrestler family friend. Whatever they were there they all you saw them wiping their eyes and Gino. Oakland finished his eulogy with this. And I and I'm not gonNA pretend that I can do it as Jean. Oakland did 'cause we all know what a great voice the Gene Oakland has. But this is what Jean said he said as I end my eulogy. There is only one way that we can do this. Fittingly Ladies and gentlemen by heavyweight champion of the world vern done. Yeah that's very appropriate. Everybody wiped there is yes. 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Or wherever you listen to your wrestling casks or visit our homepage to download or stream. The shows or find out more information. Pw Torch Daily Cast Dot Com and and at the church service. It was. It was a very big church. Wade and I wanNA venture that there were All of the pews all of the chairs. Everything were filled It was pretty much the capacity. I don't know what the Church holds but if I was estimated based on on the way a wrestling card would be when we kinda would go in and kind of figure out how many people were there. I WanNa say there was a good three to four hundred and and this is something that I should point out too. And it's wasn't planned this way but it was rather fitting the way the church was set up. The entire alter area was in a square in the center of the Church and then the pews went in a square around the alter. It was almost as if fern was in a ring and above. They just had the they had the lights above the altar that were down on for the entire church service. They had the lights above. And I got this feeling when I first saw and then there I heard a couple of people actually pointed out that it was almost like we were at an arena. And it certainly wasn't planned that way because the church has been there forever and that's the way the church is set up but it was very nice. Oh just the symbolism of that gives you chills a little bit does really it really does it really does I mean it was. I WANNA point out to about people who have had You know sometimes you got to bury the hatchet so to speak Stand crusher Kowalski. The big K and I always say Stan crusher Kowalski I never say the big K but I'd say the big K for those facts that those fans that don't recognize them as crusher Kowalski Stand crusher. Wolski he was the one man through the years and stand is another one of my personal all time buddies and favorites. Okay but stan was one man who I absolutely felt that. I think he had a legitimate beef with Verne. And I always cited with Stan stand was one of the first guy in fact he was the first guy along with tiny meals that Verne Brought into his company in nineteen sixty one informed the AWA and for fans that don't know tiny mills and Stan Kowalski where the very first AWA recognized the world. Tag Team Champions. So unburned started the company. They became champions and he used Stan who was a local boy from Fridley. But you know wrestled with an international reputation. 'cause he did wrestle. All over the country Stan worked for Verne Vernon and and stand had a long running program together. Not only in the late fifties before it became the Awa but after the Awa they had a long running program and they always drew great crowds their matches. This is back in the days when Stan was main eventing and Verne was either the United States champ at the time or he was the Awa Champ and they always had a good program they always had a running feud but vern. When I talked earlier about how Verne never buried. Larry Hennig on the car. Larry was a constant headliner main event or his whole career here withstand vern phased him out and rather quickly by nineteen. Sixty three. Stan was working mid card lower card. Sometimes openers sometimes even asked to do jobs on TV. And that always didn't set well with stand because Stan was a local boy and he was always popular popular in heels way. I'll point that out. But he was always a good draw. In Stan legitimately felt that Verne was giving them the shaft Verne also took his crusher name away from him he was crusher with a k. Crusher Kowalski and with Nineteen Sixty Two when Reggie LaSalle ski came to the Awa he was known as Crusher Lasalle ski at the time that was before he dropped his last name and vern pulled tiny male or not talking meals. Stan Kowalski that we'RE GOING TO WE'RE GONNA we can't have you called the crusher anymore. And that was all stay in had used. For about ten years previous he was crusher Kowalski so they had a they had a couple of matches crusher versus crusher crusher with a seed crusher with a K. I have all the programs from this. I could show you how they did it. It's really creative. But the loser of course was going to give up the crusher name. Well stay at lost. Of course and Stan was then relegated to becoming the big K and that staying always had an issue with that. Stamm said to me one time many years ago he says what the Hell is a big K. It's a capital letter. You know so. He he legitimately and burned did phasing out and one time in the Mid Seventies. Stan was at the TV studio and vern told told. Stand to go get his bag. I want you to to work the match and You know basically do the job on TV and stand said that was it. I'd had it and Karma Pride. Call it whatever you a Lotta Times. You do things for the business. You put the next guy over all that stuff. I mean I totally understand all that but I always understood. We're staying with coming from now. Is Not the time to overpay for razors at the drugstore? Harry's no sometimes it's better to stay inside and that's why they shipped directly to you so you can experience the quality of Harry Shave and just a few days from the convenience of your own home. I love here's razors because of the fit and finish of the razor blade for me. I don't like putting a cheap plastic blade or a heavy blade. That's off balance up against my face when I'm shaving. 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Jerry Blackwell can say he's crusher blackwell but the crusher is the crusher and so stay in had stayed had that issue and the reason I brought that up was Scott Smith stands son He called me last week and told me that because Scott night have stayed in touch and Stan Kowalski by the way is a rehab center right now ever after having gone through another hip surgery here about maybe a month and a half ago. Two months ago You had to have another hip replacement and this was the second one in two years. So he's he's at a rehabilitation place and Scott told me he said. I told my dad that Verne had passed away and he said he looked at me and he didn't say anything and he just kind of put his head down and Scott says. I know it's really bothering him more than he would say and then he said to me will you take me to the service End Stand Kolevski. Was there his son pushing him in a wheelchair and stand was there for the entire service and Scott said to me afterwards. He said my dad thanked me for bringing him and he said he needed to go here and be at peace with it. How sweet yeah I mean I think that that alert the actor to really telling stories that that says it all I mean you could have just said if you really thought the guy was the biggest dink in the world. You'd have just said No. I'm not going glad he's dead. I you know I know there are people that would do such things. Well George let me wrap up on this note. We need to continue this Another time too. I think there's a lot more we can go into trust me. Oh absolutely you've done a great job conveying. What happened in being an eyewitness for so many of us To to all kind of it sounds just like a week of healing and And just acknowledgment What Verne meant to the community and one on one to a lot of these people who worked for him or he worked with The when Verne was in private as a promoter. Obviously he had to make some tough calls. You bring up one of them. Big K I don't know the details and Larry the axe There's other stories Bobby you know He. On both sides of it for and made decisions. Some restaurants didn't like and then later wrestlers may decisions Vernon light right. You know when when Hogan left in And on and on When Verne earned a reputation for being prickly or temperamental yet he was also use. The public. Didn't see that side of that. There was this charismatic. You said the smile lit up the room in he was the star in centerpiece upper room. He had that each factor Wherever he went when Verne was in public in there was that charisma was he was that when he was like obviously in the ring he loved being star in the ring but talk about what it meant for him on. A genuine was just marketing to. I'M GONNA I. I'm I'm a grumpy upset person and I'm I'm throwing temper tantrums. But as soon as the camera comes on. I'll fake and be nice. Because that's what's best for business. Was that for an or did vern and it's a loaded question. 'cause I kinda answer I think when I was in public. Was that just a genuine other side of him that he just loved promoting Promoting pro wrestling promoting amateur wrestling being a man about town and being in the public spotlight. It just seemed like we all have our moves. We all have our size and that just seemed like something that Verne embraced and Jan was a real genuine part of who he was. I'm going to answer it this way to your Wade. Because at the service I think both Gene Oakland and Greg Ganja Brought this home. That Verne was a very serious businessman. Who was in business to make money as any business? Is You know when you when you're when you're the boss when you're the CEO. Your employees are not always going to appreciate what you do what you don't what you tell them to do how you tell them to do it. And when we talked before about you know if you don't like the company you should leave but obviously there are always. I mean every one of us who have ever worked a job. You know. There's a boss that you look at it and you go what I think you know. Oh my you know you got an issue and and I think Verne as with any head of a company you obviously on a day-to-day basis had to make decisions and you know. Here's the thing weighed when you are the boss and I mean we could get into some serious decisions that were made within the Awa and that could be another program in itself that how they came about and what they how they impacted the company or didn't the impact that company but as as an owner of a company. There are moments in time when you have to make a gut reaction decision on the spot and maybe an hour later or the next day. You realize I shouldn't have done that or I I could have done differently. Hindsight as you say is always twenty twenty but and Aloha Torch Faithful. This is Kelly wells host of talks and x t every Thursday. You can hear me and my gang of idiots Tom Style. Shares thoughts from the live tapings and torch recap Limburg as well as a rotating cast of guests cover the matches and events in St Live on USA network search. Bwi torching and apple podcasts. Or Your podcast. App to subscribe or listen on demand and see the entire w torch daily cast schedule at POW torch daily past dot com cheers. That was that was the deal with Verne. And I think everybody recognize that and both gene and Greg. They pointed it out at the charismatic. Vern Ganja Greg mentioning as a father. As a as a fishing person as a hunter he loved all those things was always the same vern. The girls the gun your girls daughters. They talked about growing up with their dad. How you know pleasant. He wasn't how understanding he wasn't hell forgiving. He was things that they may have done wrong. Or when they didn't do well at something and he always encouraged them and he said Greg made the comment that burned is such A. He was such a person of tenacity. He he he just he constantly had to be. He was and I'm GonNa tell you a story at how Greg ended this with his eulogy. That Verne was so competitive that he he never liked to see failure and especially he didn't like to fail. You know he would try. Harder would try harder. He said play tennis with him. Vern would kill you at tennis because he was so competitive and when he was hunting he had to get them. Oh he had to get the most dear or he had to catch the most fish and and it was just you know he was always challenging and he says but Greg said there was one person who vern could never beat and he said that was our mom Mary. They used to play gin and he said marry my. You said my mom. She was the better Jin player and she beat him all the time and she said burn would get so upset and he resorted to cheating. You know he'd move cards each take cards. He do anything to try to win. And she'd still beat him and he says my mom always beat him but he says that's the way Verne was and the guy that we saw on the street or in behind behind the camera he both gene and and Greg pretty much said that was vern but he was just so intense all the time with you know. Obviously when you're doing the TV studio matches and you're promoting a wrestling card and whatever you're doing something has to be done in their decisions and and they said that's what made Verne Special Times. The people didn't see that that you know tenseness and maybe that I of anger for a moment where he yell at someone or but vern always had the charisma and a Lotta Times. He'd go back and slap the guy on the shoulder and say. Hey so you know I mean. And they pointed that out that it was. You Know Y'all let you but a second later he'd pat you on the back and he may maybe say nothing but the pat on the back said that you know. Hey Man. I'm sorry and so I think to answer your question. I think the Verne. Ganja that we saw was was vern. Ganja and he lived in Georgia. I could let another hour and a half go by and barely noticed but I have to run. I don't overstay my welcome to you today but let's do this again and And and talk you know give people more of your knowledge of earn and get it You know in a lengthy format like this on the record for the archives and learn what we can about about the AWA and its evolution. It's part of the pollution of pro wrestling and very Very important role in that and the different areas that that he grew and then obviously the the Mid Eighties where things started to fall apart and and You know he was overtaken by the national expansion. There's so many things have been said about him. And that and I really appreciate your perspective and your First Person. Stories George on so many of these Relationships that that in many ways came full circle so again. I just thank you for sharing what you have today with us. I totally appreciate. 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Rest Easy "Mean" Gene

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Rest Easy "Mean" Gene

"Yes, sir. We promised to. Cidade? I'm certain my guess that this time will not forget, I've talked about the former intercontinental champion of the world macho vantage nothing nothing means nothing. Nothing means what do you mean? By that talking about all the way to the top year who just in a position that I'd rather not being put Queen to the tap will year. My madness years got more glue for improvement, Jack. Tony I got. Yeah. We tell you something right now. Wait a minute already. I've got ask you very seriously. Do you blame Mr. Jack Doney that distinguished president the world? Wrestling federation for Ricky steamboat being the intercontinental champion today. Do hear Phyllis here. Gloria, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the number one sports and recreation podcast in the world. This is cheap. Eat in two thousand nineteen. I m Peter the major one Rosenberg aka, Greg, and I am joined by S G g the physically large stat guy. Greg esquire. And before we do anything. I'm going to read you something I wrote that I don't know if I'm actually going to publish it anywhere. So I feel I might as well read it to you. It took just thirty six hours of two thousand nineteen for the WWE universe to be absolutely rocked with a huge loss mean Jean Oakland has passed away at seventy six years old. It's hard to quantify. Just how meaningful mean Jean was to the glory days of eighties wrestling that took the pastime we all love from sideshow to legit mainstream business, but he was Shirley integral when you step back and really look at the eighties. It's reasonable to argue that mean jeans name ranks fourth in wrestling's mainstream consciousness after hulk HOGAN, Andre the giant and Randy savage. Every American who grew up with television in the mid eighties is quick to drop. A we'll let me tell you. Something mean Jean hulk HOGAN impression whenever pro wrestling mentioned. Now ranking wrestlers greatness can be challenging when you don't know who is really responsible for the character's creation. Did hulk HOGAN make Vince McMahon or did McMahon actually create HOGAN, Gino Kurland was always gene Oakland before coming to the WWE from the Awa with hulk HOGAN back in nineteen eighty three Oakland had mastered his role as the straight man, he took his legitimate broadcast skills from local radio and use them to create the character that he played in professional wrestling and one has to remember what Jean Oakland's job actually was in order to truly appreciate his brilliance. Gene. Oakland was not an interviewer, gene. Oakland was playing an interviewer named mean. Jean Oakland in the same way. Hulk HOGAN was playing a world champion. In in a competitive sport. Oakland struck an absolutely perfect balance of seriousness humor energy sarcasm and dry wit. He never tried to steal the spotlight. And as a result. The spotlight always seemed to find him. He knew how to handle an irate Bobby Heenan differently than an insane. Randy savage. He knew in the line of realism had been crossed and a very slight wink to the audience was needed in his last real run with WCW. He knew how to play along with what had become the regular absurdity of a show that while entertaining was completely ridiculous. Meaning Oakland knew how to do it. All. An S U G. That's really how I feel about mean, gene in a nutshell. And a Q who can disagree with that. Right. I made. You hit every nail on the head. And I think you perfectly eulogize just how important he was. Ya'll even though there's nothing to add to that. Besides p I'll tell you. I've met mean Jean a few times. The last time I saw him. Was. At raw twenty five. Which was the night of his last interview. That he ever did on a like live WWE show. He interviewed the then champion AJ styles. Matter of fact, maybe we'll end the show with it. And I posted a picture on Instagram, Greg. You might remember when I was still active on social media of myself in mean, Jean. At raw twenty five. And I I love this picture. I saw him standing there. And all I got I'm wearing a tuxedo. I gotta go take a picture with me, gene. And when I went up and chatted him up. I'm not sure whether he was aware of that. I really worked there. I I really don't know. But these sarcasm with which he talked to me and was totally mocking me as being Jubran was amazing. And like I relatively palpable. Like, he was he wasn't hiding it. He was just kind of mocking me and like in a way that was so funny. And if you look at the picture, and as she send it to you if you wanna throw it up, maybe on your I g. Highly seven posted. But I will deputy did Senator hot posted a two, but I'll send it to you. If you look he's pointing at me and making a face like who is this jobber. His humor is just, you know, not only was he funny on the show. But now that we're older, and you understand at least more about pro wrestling, you go back, and you realize how often he was trying to like pop the person that he was interviewing and really trying to get people to break character and kind of messing with them. Like in the famous in one of my favorite macho man, promo promos with means, gene where he talks about. Spinning around one hundred eighty degrees that a whole other hundred eighty degrees, and he's like spinning and circles. And like he does it like once or twice, and then mean jeans like a whole another hundred eighty degrees. Trying to get them to spin around again, and savage gives them this look like what like you could just tell that he liked to mess with people and those two to like they they were incredible together. I think that's the number one Megyn combo in my opinion, because savage. You know, HOGAN would get out there and cut promos and an aside. Let me tell you something mean, Jean or you know, what means, gene? Besides that. You know within really go off on his own. Savage. Sometimes we go off on his own. But sometimes would you know? Play with gene. You know that when I was just referring to that. I think it's called the beat goes on. And he's put the beat goes on and jeans like playing into it with him like he really, and he really didn't for me. Doing the job that I've gotten to do at WWE. It is similar in terms of what is asked of you as a performer in the sense that please don't think I'm calling me, gene. But in terms of the fact that I am a radio guy. Who's there, you know, trying to basically just play myself now, gene is different in that. He was a wrestling interviewer. But I've always trying to figure out like how do I be me? But I'm, you know, playing version of myself to it's not the exact same or in the world of pro wrestling. And so I can really speak first hand about how hard it is to do that. Well, I say that as someone who thinks I do okay at it. But like, I mean, I'm. Light-years from even being able to stand on the same map as me, gene. I've gotten to try to do it. It's frigging heart. And he came into Awa as a guy who didn't know what he was doing kind of figure this out how to do it in wrestling. And man, and then and then you also just he gotta just show some love for the pipes. His pure voice was just incredible. Yeah. Yeah. Goldenvoice gold. I mean, and the way he would. Get serious at a situation that that that felt like he could take a situation that if you played it the wrong way would seem ludicrous and make it seem realistic. And then like I pointed out in the in the little oh bit. In WCW knew how to ham up the ridiculous to play along in a show that was ridiculous by nature. The guy was really good in every single capacity. Even if you go watch the old prime times or old schools on the network, you catch the occasional show where he there was on commentary, and he was good. Yeah. You know? And I think you summed it up really well too. When you mentioned just like what you think about people in wrestling who transcended into general pop culture in the eighties in the nineties and so on. It is the four that you named its HOGAN, Andre the giant, Randy savage. Emmy, those are the names man like when it comes to mean stream more than RIC flair. You know, maybe replace in the south where flares name was bigger. But when you look throughout. Yeah. I mean, listen, I grew up in New York and mean, gene was up there with like with me Jean that mean by God, gene. So rest in peace to the icon mean Jean Geico presents unhelpful home improvement how to a slippery bathroom floor can result in expensive hospital bills. So today, I'll show you how to cook a serious fall by filling your bathroom with thousands of plastic balls. Just now a piece of plywood across the doorway and dump in two thousand multicolored plastic balls, you could try to protect yourself with a bathroom full of plastic balls or you could get liability coverage through the guy co insurance agency. Visit Geico dot com and see how a forcible renter's insurance can be as she g you are also an icon. So I'll leave it to you on where you want to start this week. Do you want to go back and look at twenty eight teen? Do you want to go back and look at this weird week of pre-taped WWE shows? Do you want to talk about? The young bucks. What do you want to talk about us? You gee, well, I did want to do like a twenty eighteen retrospective. But I feel like everybody's done that. So I mean, and we all know the highlights from the year right all in evolution, Ronda Rousey shows up. Women's role. Yeah. The women's while rumble Kenny omega finally wins the new Japan title Jericho wins the title in new Japan. Everybody's hit on all the hit something here. People are in the Becky Lynch too. Yeah. Yeah. That that's some murmurs going on about that people are people are sort of entering. But yes, I think at least for us. You know since it's been done. The best thing to do. We gotta talk about Cody, Cody in the young bucks a little bit at least all elite wrestling, then just give the people what what they come to expect from us a little bit of the week that was a little bit of black power kids, and the just moving on like that r we'll tell us tell us real quick about all elite, and what this means what the event is. And you know, whether how soon there will be a show that I will complain about and people will then tweet to Kenya. Mega and call me a hack for. So all elite wrestling is actually that promotion that everybody speculated was happening. It is happening. They announced it on January first, it's Cody in the young bucks who were going to serve as executive vice president, supposedly young bucks gonna be booking thing in the Codey is gonna take on the executive role in the Tony Kahn from the of the Jacksonville Jaguars is gonna be the president the owner and the money, man. And then they have a press conference scheduled for next week. I believe where they're gonna go into more details about who signed than probably you know, what it's going to mean. Go forward. They haven't event double nothing, which basically the sequel to all in at scheduled to come up soon. But other than that not a lot is known about. About. What this promotion is going to be what it's gonna look like anything like that. You know? But of course, though, you know, internet. Is already like this is a promotion that's gonna rival WWE. Vincent, man. Should be scared. Nothing in that regard, people jumping the gun. As far as a new promotion being competition somewhere for restless to go ply the craft. I think that's a good thing. But the idea that all wrestling is right on the level with WWE just because they have a billionaire owner in a lot of money to spend at think is absurd it I'll tell you. I agree. It makes it inherently interesting. You know, it makes you have to pay more attention, you know, than than competition that frankly, you know, is run by some of the there's only there's never been any other big business post Ted Turner in competition. There have been money people before Sinn. That's the thing. There's money people right now to ring on his own by billionaire, Mark Cuban has some stake in Japan, and they just are not at the level with the music. Now, the question is con- more committed and really passionate, Greg. I believe you should go on a sinement on January eighth to the double or nothing rally in Jacksonville. If you're a real journalist. That's what you if you're actually if you're actually stat guy, we need you to go down there and get the stats. Maybe you can tell us, you know, that it's the biggest rally ever like like like Trump's inauguration. It probably will be though their fans do tired out. I'll give them that. But at the single you'll be bigger than when whole Kogen and Jimmy Hart jumped in the convertible and Universal Studios. Possibly possibly could it possibly could. It could rival that do you think what are the chances that somehow an oddly skinny and mustache hulk HOGAN shows up. It's gotta be up there. Right. 'cause I mean, I saw reports that they might be looking at Goldberg to get involved with this thing. So they if there's going to be scooping up legends that Hogan's probably I would I would pop big if if somehow Hogen popped up mustache, and he'd lost like forty pounds. He looked just he looked just like the weird thin baby-faced WCW hulk HOGAN, it is interesting though. And you know, I'm always a big believer in competition that it can make things interesting. So we'll see we shall see. With the actual event. The actual one of there's no dates were released yet. They just said that it's going to happen that they have this promotion, and that was it that was enough to. To set, you know, settle fans on fire make speculation while. What's the what's the potential impact on ring of honor about that? Or that's that's the question. Right. Because and that's why I think ultimately the competition not gonna be WWE it's gonna be ring of honor, new Japan, and these companies that they wanna have these continues to partnerships with vibe because if ring of honor science exclusive contracts with their talent than that's talent that might not necessarily be able to work their shows and same thing with new Japan of everybody signing, all these exclusive contracts that who who do they have left to to work for them will be guys who, you know, get released from WWE every every mayo whenever the does their spring cleaning. You know, who who can they signed right now? It's just those guys from being the elite, but. That's not enough that the roster doesn't have the debt to to be what people are saying is going to be especially think about every w having an exte- annex t u k right along with raw and smackdown. What if they managed what if they manage to sign? Both Chris masters and Emma. They got a solid. They got solid. The got a solid women division with in Chris masters. You know, he could make some waves. It could be a heavyweight champion contender master locks glor- Chatham. Laker. What's real name again to nail Dashiell? Dash would. Yes. Yes. Yes. Strong name. No doubt about it. It's a bummer that never had that she could not catch a break. In w I liked I like 'em. And she had I like, the the aloof dancing gimmick that she had me too. But I don't know what happened to think she got injured, right? When she had a moment. Who is she tagging with? Was it ain't broke? Oh, yeah. I believe. So they'd be of s. Yeah. Think so. You wouldn't have picked that. It would have been. Maybe you would've picked that. It would have been. Dana Brooke with being the bodybuilder type out. All right. Well, we'll see what happens with all. What do you think of the name all eat wrestling eighty w and the logo the logo is garbage while I'm offended because I actually did it on my iphone, so. I'm sorry. Logos. Not great. And. Yeah, I don't know. And maybe that's me being harsh. But I really don't like the logo. The name is fine names grow on you. Right. But I do not like the logo. I wasn't super impressed by myself. It looks good on shirt. I guess, but like when you think about. WWF and WCW and even now the WWE logo and how like clean and streamline that looked all that like it just doesn't look good. What else do you wanna hit? Here was that. That was the only thing outside the ring that we we really had to hit. I think so this one this last one is sorta outside the ring sort of inside the ring. But Vince McMahon announced that a women's tack titled coming up. So those are official. He announced that on Christmas. Or Vinson clause. Yeah. The worst kept secret in professional wrestling is out. But hey, I it's still very very cool. Did you love love Mickey James going on Twitter and schooling people for not recognizing that there have been. Women's champions before Tijam. I didn't see that. But I do love that. Because they were they had them in the eighties. And then depending on who you believe the fabulous moolah sabotaged the tag team champs, and then call WWE to just decide it wasn't worth it and dropped they haven't been around since. But. Yes. Long past time to bring back. I know there's goes out surprising. Do you know who actually blame for the demise of the women's division? Who is going to be very surprising. Louis CK. Yeah. I believe it. I just everything that guide does he ruins. And it started not a lot of people know this started with the women's tag titles. Yeah. He he used to send me like unsolicited pitches for angles and things like that. And I I read somewhere that he sent them something about getting rid of the women's tag, title, something other one thing I role for the Babbel kuker. I apologize. I apologize to anyone who listens to show. This is the podcast and his hearing me make the same joke that I already made on the air there. Although didn't go over. So whatever I if you are boarding a flight and UC Louis CK or Lena Dunham getting on the plane just get off the plane. Like, I've never I've never seen two people who were like more the Darlan of a certain crowd completely fall out of favor. Worse in Louis CK's case with really good reason in Lena Dunham case, like pretty good reason. But then it I felt like it started getting kind of abusive like we're now it's just like no matter what she does. She just gets crushed. Yeah. Like likely so well, except there some like, she's a gnawing. But if you really go back the thing that people crushed her for about Odell Beckham junior. She was joking. Like, she was actually if you go read the quote or listen to it. She was mocking herself. She was really mocking herself. And just calling herself not that attractive, and they were like they made it sound as if she thought like she really thought del Beckham junior was a bad person in judging her when the joke was really not that he's a bad person in judging me, but in just that like, I'm not that attractive. That's what the joke really was. But then Lando then then land that's not enough that you should be hated for the rest of your life. I'm sorry. That's not that Louis C K. Okay. I mean is giving you some pretty solid real evidence. Lena Dunham is base. And by the way, I was never a girls fan. So this has nothing to do with that. Yeah. I was either. But but like, I don't think she does come off as like self centered and of noxious, but that and just. Agreed. Agreed. But you see what I'm saying the difference like coming off as like annoying and self righteous like that's annoying. And like if I was and if I wasn't a fan of someone it would certainly make me not want to be a fan of that person. She literally can't even breathe anymore. Although then she actually had a real huge mistake where the writer of girls was accused of sexual and she defended him and said she had inside information that it was definitively. Not true. And it turns out that inside information was that he told her it wasn't true. But these see how her being self centered and noxious in like seeps into everything because if she had not made this encounter that she really doesn't know anything about about her. She. She wouldn't be catching backlash. Yes. That's that is a very good point. I sort of felt like up until that point. I just sort of felt like even I wasn't a fan like damn. She just I I just it's so I guess what I point out about it is that like it shows. Why you never why there's always such a risk to like burning incredibly brightly? Yeah. Like, chris. She was on fire fire. You know what I mean? And it just wolf man she she'll be fine. I hope she has the money saved away. But either way she'll be fine. Well, she she's young. And I don't think I actually even with how dumb that last mistake was I don't know that I think morally she's in the wrong play like, the, you know, I don't know that she's morally a bad person. She just doesn't carry herself. Louis C K though, his downfall. I I would not have predicted like I was never the world's biggest Louis fan. I was more someone who just like appreciated him. And whenever I saw was like. Yeah. That super funny. But like, I wasn't like, you know. I wasn't like a super Louis C K, Mark. But people I know who know funny all thought he was so funny. You know? And so when I'd see him I thought he was pretty good. And I knew he was edgy. And I knew things said the N word, and, you know, had humor that was definitely really edgy. But at the time, I really believed he was one of those comics who is so smart that I I didn't really think much of it except for like, yeah, he's super smart edgy comic. And then everything happened. And now he just like if that audio clip, I know we are really off the rails. But that clip what when I read that the heading that was like Louis CK talks about park land. My first thought was actually damn people really don't want Louis C K back. And now, they're recording them in the comedy club. And they're probably taken out of context. And it's you know, it probably wasn't that bad. Then was one hundred percent in context that I listened to it. And I was like, oh, this is bad. This is Tara one thing. You cannot be one thing. You cannot be. Is over the top offensive and not remotely funny. It that. They're you know, like that is it was so funny. It was so it didn't sound like him. I was like oh did he like he lost it like this isn't even him? This is terrible. Anyways. By the way, he should go to W right now. He'd be a heat magnet. Louis CK through that current mug states may roster if you shows up. Oh, yeah, if Louis C K right now was to all of a sudden become the he'll general manager. That'd be popping anyways. So yes, the point is a lot of people out here washed in twenty nineteen. And by the way, how how do we how do we start the year losing mean? Jean and Bob Einstein on the same. And I'll super Dave. That was a rough. Our for me, my Lord, man Funkhouser. That's one of the funniest Funkhouser is one of the funniest characters in recent comedy history on. Yeah. I remember like catches super Dave randomly on FOX. Like, he will do these specials these evil knievel specials, and then like it wasn't until I got older I realize, oh, that's the joke that he's never gonna completely stunts. What he's not really that. Brave. When he that like, it was hilarious even like super day on the roller coaster. Never seen it bliss thing. The, oh, it's it's hilarious. He said he's at the front of the roller coaster, and he's. Just started freaking out of his him having a meltdown on roller coaster, which doesn't sound exciting. And all not the best of every note that was actually terrible. That was really, but no. But you have to see it though. You can't words don't do his comedy Justice. Those words hear those words most certainly did not. Anyway. So yeah. Recipes to him as well. And I didn't know that his brother was our Brooks, which makes Halcion Albert Einstein yet didn't know that. Yeah. By the way. Greg. I think you may need to. Put a temporary ban on Leo rush. From the black power rankings. You know? That's my dude, you know, from the from the DMV, my guy his vest. His outfits are. I don't. I mean, I can't pull them off. But slew to him for pulling them off. I guess what? I'd say, no. I wouldn't I wouldn't say I don't know that he's believable. Anyways, we're getting ahead of ourselves. So yeah, we have women's tag titles. That's what led me to time at Louis CK naturally. And what what what expectations? Do you have for these titles? I hope they hope that either each brand gets their own set of women's tag titles that we don't have to deal with the confusion about like where these women go or anything like that. And it's not a hope that this is the catalyst for some unification's men. One world champion one set attack titles, some some cohesion that could be this could be the thing that sets off unification. Because I mean, I know they make a good chunk of change of those replicas, but on Nov another set attack titles would just like it would be Bacchus, especially if they end up doing like a. Annex t women's tactile, then that's just a lot. Well, I think the goal the idea that you can have three more. Yeah. It's a lot. It's a lot. And then I demand a women's TV tag titles. Yeah. And the and the women's international tag titles. Oh my gosh. I just thought of something genius. I tell I need. Yeah. I need to create. There was always the TV title. I need the radio title. Oh, why haven't you? There's never been a radio championship. I only defended rating up. It has not and even Zachariah had the internet championship. So they they have championships in other are the media degree point. And the thing is on on radio. I could be an amazing wrestler. Is true. You know, the match that'd be by the way, this is just need to play by play to get everything over on our if you know this. But I know some people do play by play I could probably get I could probably get Tom Phillips and Corey graves to call me winning the radio championship. That'll be hilarious. What what will we get exclusively here on PICO? All you have to wait and thing if there's a radio, title and radio at a radio, tag, title and radio women's title. But anyways, all things to think about an an in. What will be very long and hopefully much improved two thousand nineteen. So yeah, we'll see. And you know, are are the women's tag titles more than just something fun for ni- Jackson to me to have. Yeah. Because they have to they have to be like the first hips. Yeah. It's I mean, it's it would be them or Rhonda natty. Right. Right. And Rhonda doesn't need more like championships. Wanda's ducts top dog on row right now. She doesn't need another title who's gonna stop to me that Niagara the iconic by the way, speaking of which yet I like, do you? Did you see that China's mom on China's birthday put out a statement saying WW needs to put her in the hall of fame? I did I did and any chance it could happen. This year. I don't know. I really don't. I wanna say, yes. But then at the same time to like, I feel like China's mom coming out and saying that they need to do. It is probably not gonna make it happen. That makes sense. Yeah. It might not be you never know. Maybe it's burqas different when fans lobby for somebody to go in then when like. Their agent or like their manager or the mother in this case dislike doodle thing is like. You know, I could see them just like. Put her in the bid for next year just because mother campaign 'cause then the optics. You know, what I mean like, okay, her mother what successfully campaign, even if China was supposed to go in as a headline right now. Just looks like. That's what up. I was thinking about China after that happened. And it's just she may be she may be the most deserving person who's currently not in the hall of him. Yeah. She's up there in terms of impact. I mean. Yeah. Especially because like she. She liked changed the game, especially we think about what they're doing with the, you know, this women's revolution. And all that they're like she. She's probably the most meaningful. She is she was made. And for the record one day if in fact. Rhonda's really about that life. Rhonda's gotta follow in her footsteps and like win the icy title or something. Which I could see them. It was made that was them doing it. Yeah. And actually, I'll say this Toronto's credit. Rhonda is someone who looks like she could be credible beating certain men on the roster for shore. Anyways, s she, gee what else going? That was it outside the ring. So we had role in smackdown. Those were both pre-take this past week. Russell kingdom is coming up. Actually, wrestling thirteen new Japan's wrestlemainia. His like this weekend hours this weekend. It's coming up like two AM eastern time pro so the by the time people hear this. They may maybe they'll be watching right now possibly possibly. Kenny omega versus townhouse she for the either GP title, Chris Jericho versus Naito for the intercontinental championship Cody versus juice Robinson for the US title. I know people have their I on that DP championship match because. With this elite wrestling being thing. Speculating about what's going to happen with. Kenny omega in the title. Or woefully. We shall see. By the way. Did you happen to flip on the Floyd Mayweather debatable? I did not I wasn't even following it. But I did see you could see the whole fight on social media. Just because I showed it was talk about work. I I don't understand how there can be so many jer sports journalists in the world, and no one can do the definitive story on. Why Floyd Mayweather needs money? This bad. Like if just likes it just like do anything for money. There have been so many rumors for so long that he needs it. I would like a definitive story out there. I someone someone has to like the word is his gambling debt. Could be that. That's exactly what I was thinking. If if he means it, that's the only thing that could explain it. I mean, unless he's like trying to go really crazy on wrestling for sale. You know what I'm saying? Which also could explain. Ted Ted's got some heat. Was there anything that happened in the rain? Oh, the return of John CENA and his hair to smackdown. Yeah. Unfortunately, not his Barbara to make the return with them. But. The hairs we'd. The hair so weird. The hair so weird. I don't I don't understand it at all. And I was glad that when they paired him with Becky it ended with Becky at least retaining some of her edge because I just get a little freaked out about her just being all out baby face already. Yeah. And we spoke about this before too like John CENA will stand next to an act. Whether it's tag-team faction. Wherever and take all of their heat and keep it moving. So the, you know, it's. You know, it's it's nice that that didn't happen to the man this time around because it could it could she easily been the latest victim. We haven't even spent any time really talking about her being the man. Now, it's confusing. I mixed on it, by the way. I just flipped on the rocks. New show. Mount games Olympics is out. It's called tight games medal emphas-. Yeah. Titan games. I'm glad the rocks. Finally, getting a chance. He said finally getting chance it's about time. He gets a chance to shine. You know what I'm saying? He's been overlooked for so long man never gets an opportunity, and now at least he has a big network show to go with it. You know, I hope gets a shot next. I'd really like to see him get just an opportunity to maybe some. Greg a well. No, that's what I that's how I really feel. But no, Kevin Hart. Someone when someone throw Kevin Hart movie, you know, what I'm saying they tried. They tried to something. But a good point he miscalculated that one. Exactly. That just goes to show. How is he walked away from the Oscars, and he'll be fun? Yeah, he will refine. But still that wasn't couldn't handle a better. Will that was just a classic example of an I relate to it. It's something I've been learning about like just picking your battles of win your I don't blame him for all Zaveri human thing. But like you get caught up in yourself. Like, I've apologize for this before. Therefore, I don't know anyone anything, and it's like not everyone's paying attention. When you talked about this on a radio station six years ago. Yeah. You're you're different now. And which is exactly what he said to like, I said this before. But I have no issue saying again Haber that that that that is exactly only had to say. Was bear bear. We haven't even on the black power rankings, bro. I think that's the bears and bears bears. You're saying you want black power rankings already. Okay. Well that case. Okay. Bear. There's as he wants Greg in the black power gangs. Think we can. Bear. Can you come here? Please. Come here are s g what are you got? So this is going to be a special edition of the black power is going to be a twenty eighteen of black power rankings. And the I gotta throw. Honorable mention to to Keith Lee ricochet stock. We have the way Jay lethal really enjoyed those guys works. They could've easily easily made it in the twenty teen top five, but this big the five who did make it. They really just did great work. This year was highly detained in number five go with Cedric Alexander. He will not Kruse way champion for most of the year. One time that mania was on the often overlooked to five live, but always always always delivered. Whether it was with staff alley Tony niece. But he Murphy always delivered of mashed candidate in a number four. I'm gonna go with at a tie 'cause I couldn't decide between these two ladies Bianca bell. And they only they both Bianca bell is like improving every day still undefeated. Are the women's championship match shot at a takeover MAME's? Former champion also improving every day also always living in the ring. So these two ladies of share number force by three is the new day is really a mainstay on the black power rankings. Nothing. More needs to be said you gonna pop up in the top five their first talent their first ballot. Black power ranking hall of famers. Yes, of course. So why would they be twenty eight teen retrospect black power in two? I know I know he's gonna put Paul on him. But for the past year, Leo rush and alongside Bobby Lashley number two full by power rankings. Leo rush. Honestly, he went from almost being released after making that joke about ama- when she was released to be impaired up with a returning Bobby Lashley that. People were generally apathetic towards making both of them a highlight on a Monday night, raw which is no easy feat. Even though he makes it look made it look so easy. So he's coming in to inundated one. The velveteen dream. He just didn't did all year. Whether it was at a takeover, whether it was in a promo on TV match. He joined we or is tweet the hulk HOGAN his tweets to help HOGAN social media. He did not miss. He so good that you don't realize that, you know, most of the time a majority of the time I would say he will go to take over the take the L, and nobody cares because they just wanted that dream match that dream moment. He gave it to us. Consistently pause Zoya number one velveteen dri. Wow. I gotta tell you. The big day velveteen dream. And it's interesting that Apollo crews doesn't get to make the top five and with good reason. But big week for Apollo crews. Yeah, he finished strong. I mean, it's that'll championship match. No, I haven't no love for Titus world's lot is tough to now down the names. You know? I mean like is just five at what about what about what about Dan Brown? What about who? Tena? Brooke? Maybe next year. We'll see she doesn't like to me. She was worldwide. Are those very she's Doma gimmick though. It's such a stats. He had a quick Bosh had the glasses. I try to wear glasses. But we all wish is trying to do to great point. She really did. It was big time would reward her for the gimmick Frenchman. What you're absolutely right and listen maybe next year. Greg will find his way on to the black our kids, I think so I think so especially if Greg becomes the first the inaugural radio champion. I mean, this is never happened before is a lot. It's a lack of that. So we'll have to see what happens. I enjoyed this week's episode in spite of the fact that we talked about nothing. I did too. But those usually turn out our best episode. I think the fans they'll appreciate it. I should say. I know it's been schedule was a little rough all I did was the best of last week said we're gonna do new episode. Never did. Although you just sorta on brand for us. I feel office. I feel I feel. I feel I feel everybody's we oh, we always we always we consistently don't deliver. So we do we do. I don't love though, we do we neglect you out of absolutely in the best of intentions. But here's we're going to do I've gotten a lot of Email over the last few weeks that I have not gotten to yet. And next week. We're going to massive mailbag. We don't all mailbag episode. I'm not saying all mailbag. Although I'll be honest something better give because you know. Fortunately, it's been a couple of weeks. We didn't episode because if you had via done an episode the week after the big Vince McMahon announcement, and quote, unquote, shakeup, I don't think that would have me reviewing that week would not have won any favor. So it's probably for the best that I didn't. But I will next week. If you sent an Email Rosenberg pizza gmaiLcom, I'll go through the last few weeks, and we'll do a big mailbag episode next week do other stuff as well. Like that. We'll dig in for a nicer. Real official one. This episode was more about mean Jean rambling about Louis CK. And so many other things by the way already turned off the rock show. I I mean. I'm not saying, it's bad. I really didn't watch all, but if you just flipping it on its so American injure warrior that it's just like I just didn't. I didn't didn't grab me. It wasn't a volume off grabber. Next week. We will be back with a full show big mail bag and so much more. How about you turn? You wanna give us a volume on reviewed next week will week. Now, you're now you're really asking for a lot. As she favor and Philly this weekend. Go ahead and stay made and enjoy it. So, ladies and gentlemen, please. Welcome me. Gee. Story. Speaking of historical vistor styles. You've got your hands full this Sunday night to on one. Andy kept back. Who let me tell you something mangy. Always want to do absorbing. Yes. I'll be defending my championship against Kevin Owens in semi's also known as Tammy you see Cammie, they believe they're better than me. Cammie believes that the movement much bigger than the. Yes. Movement ever been. Cami believes they're going to walk into the Royal rumble and walkout, versed, labral, code, WW chant. But I'm not going to let that happen. They're not taking this championship. From me. You see this match. I got a small window. I gotta hit him hard. I gotta Hume fast. Do it. Right. The last thing that will be ringing in their ears will sound a lot like this and still Dobie W E champion. Phenomenal.

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Hard Factor 1/3: Mitt Romney, The World's Oldest Liar, PETA Hates Fun, and a Weight Loss Competition Update

Hard Factor

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Hard Factor 1/3: Mitt Romney, The World's Oldest Liar, PETA Hates Fun, and a Weight Loss Competition Update

"Wooded you Joe, man. Randy savage this factor in the risk. No one that does better. Now, does it better repeat myself? Go ahead told me something right now. Moderate. Another episode of heart factor. It is Thursday. January third our top stores for the day west gonna take one about Mitt Romney flip flopping on President Trump. Yeah. Once again looks like mitts go for big loss number three in twenty twenty. So Mark's going to take one about the world's oldest lady being a liar. She's definitely the world's oldest liar. Sounds like it sounds like a big fat liar over there. She's French two pats about pita, they want to ban animal mascots after the Bebo slash Uhde altercation apparently member Cepeda watch their first football game ever this week. And I'm to take weight loss competition up date and a lightning round of other headlines. We couldn't get to ticket away west. All right. So Mitt Romney the dapper Senator now representing Utah. Former governor from Massachusetts and two time former presidential nominee is out there talking a lot of shit about our current President Donald Trump. He's so handsome, though, very to be the most handsome politician. Yeah. What do you look that good? You don't worry about talking shit the Trump? He could play a politician in a movie. That's how handsome diff- absolutely could play Donald Trump. Exactly. Yeah. So with the with the twenty twenty election had getting started at may be a sign he just might take another crack losing. Here's just some of what he wrote in his op Ed piece for the Washington Post quote with the nation so divided resentful and angry presidential leadership qualities of character is indispensable. And it is in this province where the incumbent shortfall has been most glaring one of the province presidency. Yeah. Astle? He went on to say to reassume our leadership in world politics. We must repair failings in our politics at home that project begins, of course, with the highest office once again acting to inspire and United. So this is nothing new. He basically thinks what everyone the brain thinks that President Trump is not presidential. Shocker. I mean, even if you love Trump, and like what he's done with the economy. Afar. You you can at least acknowledge that. He's just not presidential and character. So it's nothing new but coming from Romney it's possibly assigned that he is going to run again. And again Romney's the most president he's the stereotypical. If you look at it. No politics. Nothing else. You're like I'm gonna go for that. Yes. Some some presidents are presidential like Obama. And then some precedents are like Trump or Bill Clinton shoving cigars vaginas like not presidential by nature shove. It was just the tip shoved it as he was gonna smoke shop. Cigar cutting. Let me see your cigar cutter. Been called it and the president's presidents before TV they like they didn't even have to look good. They were like fat guys. You know, one of them was couldn't even walk one of them was given speeches from bathtub and. John F Kennedy built the tunnel for horse face, Scott Stringer's. So the peace also got a little bit of response from President Trump who took the Twitter, of course, saying quote, I won big. And he didn't he should be happy for all Republicans be a team player and win mitt come on. Sick bird. So Trump and Romney have quite a checkered past and have traded insults on many occasions prior this even though Trump backed Romney, he ran in twenty twelve but that's just politics in general one one day, you're on on the guys side his birthday party. And then you're calling phone fraud the next day. So you're paying the Clintons Clinton's millions in the not your fucking like a group a group of girls that are friends where like there's two really hot chicks. And they don't like each other. You know, it's like they're always vying for the top of the group. Yeah. When you're running the fantasy football league the Commissioner, and you take a year off, and you don't get invited back. So there's no fantasy this year. It's pretty good. I got third third. No fischel Novica word on whether or not he is going to go for lost number three and twenty twenty but he has no fucking chance against Trump at this point going to the internet, Rafael Silva, says mini mitt Romney's character. Then he lists dates two thousand twelve seeks President Trump's endorsement gets it two thousand sixteen. In March trashes Trump to that in sixteen November cross the Trump has to be secretary of state to eighteen seeks Trump's backing for Senate gets it to nineteen trashes Trump in the Washington Post. So those a little bit about Romney's character. Maybe Steve Frazier says somehow the opinion of a failed presidential candidate is not as important to me as the most successful president since Reagan maga-. All right. All right. But. Razieh? Yeah. All right. Does anyone here know who the oldest living person was before they died? Like how old were they at their age? The guy told his I've no idea I gave it away. They're not alive still. Okay. They're dead. They're dead. But I was that age one ten one twenty five one twenty five that's a quite it's too high one hundred twenty two years old Frenchwoman GM Calman. Sure. So like one one and a half percent above the actual numbers is unrealisable. You'll get when further down the story you'll understand there's a few people that would think you're a lunatic. Dot in nineteen ninety seven at the right, bold age of one hundred twenty two and a half. So even closer to what wills guess was. So or did she wait? Why did what so? Yeah. I guess one hundred twenty two and a half didn't sit. Well, with Russian mathematician, Nikolai Zach who thought that one hundred twenty two years for a non Italian Greek person was not physically possible way back in nineteen ninety seven. And so he had to fucking do a ton of research to figure out if this was even possible research based on racism, the Japanese knew this was bullshit. He ended up reading report twenty one years later two thousand eighteen called Jan comment. The secret of longevity what you just released. It was published to research gate, whatever the hell that is sounds pretty nerdy. And it happens to be twenty six pages long. So if you really wanna see what the mind of a psychopath looks like jump on over to research and type in John Calvin at the secret of longevity. I guess this is okay that he's reading eighty thousand word reports though, because he probably would be eating people's faces off history as the alternatively, you know, he's not dating. So he's got time. It's definitely not dating. So let me radio sample of the abstract or the synopsis of Necas report. He said can anyone do like a Russian nerdy? I review. Support. That's pretty good. I review the his review the literature dedicated to this reportedly oldest documented human being and reveal bolted contradictions in interviews biographies, photos and documents he's been dead. I suggest an explanation of these discrepancies based on the hap offices that John's daughter Yvonne acquired her mother's identity after her death in order to avoid paying inheritance tax shit. And that Jan Komen. Death was reported by her family as Vence death in nineteen thirty four von was probably pretty fucking young back. Then what you said right idea. Yeah. So she they just the whole family was on it, and they scammed everyone. So then the daughter became Jan for the next like fifty sixty five years this people not associate with a single person outside their family. No one could call them on this bullshit. They were spitting image of each other. They put on makeup. I hate taxes a lot. This is pretty insane. You get it. Not only do you get taxes. You get a Guinness world record out of it. So is nikolai's not the only person there's another Russian Jen gerontologist and society of naturalist of Moscow university member Valerie Nossa left who that agrees with Nikolai analysis and says as Dr I always had doubts about her age. The state of her muscle system was different from that of her contemporaries, she could sit up without any support. And she had no signs at dimension to one hundred twenty driving around in her car. She can do one armed push ups to work out. Yeah. She would spot me what the fuck rings Russians really head of data against this whole cause and released a vicious and well-documented report saying that it's a fraud. There's pictures at the end of the twentieth Pige report to of like zoom zoom in close ups of Japan and Yvonne's noses being different and like circling how their noses are pretty crazy. So Sarah Knauss in American who died at age one nineteen in nineteen ninety nine would be the new record holder in the event comments density is proven false with this ipod asus. And they could do that. I guess if the zoomed her body did a DNA fucked. She never got to me number one. Well, she was number one. I have a hypothesis without a little without doing any research, and that the NAS family doesn't want this to be true because the same thing the waste their NAS lift one hundred nineteen I'm really glad that there's some board Washington's dedicating their lives to exposing lying French, at least at least they waited until she died, then like, you know, exposed this. Like, you know old one years later. Yeah. I remember seeing videos of this lady like people were like, oh, it's okay to smoke cigarettes and drink wine because the old lady in the world did it to her. So many people cancer. I remember looking at her being like I would. All those any the bye by. Let's say to the end of that Nancy marimba mo- says no one can live pass not pass pass one twenty exclamation point. That's the cutoff Mark. Okay. Nancy? You know, she's one nineteen technically. She's right. Yes. Only two so far. She's right. And then Linda simple says the Russians certainly have noses and a lot of people's business strip. All right. So pita because no pita also known as people for the ethical treatment of animals familiar. Yeah. Well, they're they're renewing their call for both the university of Texas and the university of Georgia and their use of live animal mascots and this happened because there was a harrowing incident during the pre game coverage of the sugarbowl when beaver oh, the university of Texas eighteen hundred pound Longhorn Steeler, attempted to murder the university of Georgia in English bulldog by breaking through a makeshift pen and spearing it. I was breakthrough the pen they were yet on the field next to each other. No, no, it was essentially like like bicycle racks to bicycle racks with a banner in front of me. And I thought that was gonna hold the teen hundred. And he just he just walked forward. I've fought -able before. And it was a baby. And those fuckers are scary and find a bull. Yeah. Anyway, to it later the point is narrowly escaped people's charging like I'm really not sure what the issue is. Because it's this kind of explosiveness off the line that we've come to expect from Texas football program. All right. Yeah. I mean, sure Biba was sedated. But so is Ricky Williams off or years you can blame beaver for Hugh much gained intensity. I mean, like pitas essentially calling for people to be fired for doing his job too. Well, spilling the blood of an opposing mascot is touchdown. I mean, it sure shits move because was fourteen point underdogs whoop that ass stoked Makaay. Also, people were literally betting based on that that incident or like throwing down big bets on Texas because be when after and that's. That is a more money. Yeah. Good luck. It right. A better bull game narrative than that. For me. Somebody who likes to gamble on bulk games. It's fuck UP. No. Did you hear that? Good. Getting beaver off the field, Texas. That's problem mission impossible right now see a bunch of people come and try to take evil off the field, or what are they gonna do to try to get Mike Tigar off campus? They're going to have to do all of that shit at night when everyone's asleep. How about instead just shoot you in the face? They did build canoeing closure and it's beautiful in a block posted on their website yesterday. Pita referenced the response from beaver handlers. Saying, quote, he's DASA's a lamb, but I wanna make a correction because they didn't include the entire quote, the handle said, quote, be Vos docile is a lamb except at game time. That's when all bets are off the blog post described the incident as a quote near tragedy and look Schorr Beata beaver the steer almost killed the dog. And that would have been horrific to watch for half the fans in the stadium. So Pedo wants these animals retired and presumably like back in the wild. But the thing is this is exactly what would happen between these two animals in the wild. This is the most true nature thing. Either mascots done in years. Ask anyone I'd catalog or are they calling for Manson all live mascots. They're always calling. So like Osceola the guy who's dressed up the white guy dressed up like a native, American and horse. Renegade in Florida state. Yeah. The horse can't be there anymore like native American native Americans on foot and he's got a run around on foot. He's cool. He's got a sneak up on people on foot. And then scream also what like I get. I get you've oh, you know, being in his natural environment that might be better for him. But that's a fucking dog. Can you imagine her life in the grass and having people like be like nice dog? I love you all go. Don't you bring this dog two games? Pretty sweet life frog. He likes game. You should be able to have a mascot of whatever. The fuck you want, man. Like do what it doesn't matter. That's the point of a mascot. That's true. We have zoos for fuck sake. If if, but if the renegade horse did ever, Florida's they ever played Texas be VO would spook the horse, and it would run into the crowd and killing probably like three human other great use of resources pita. Let's take it to the internet guy. I so Kelly Hoffmann says no more live mascots and Michael Tucker. Retorts Kelly Hoffman year a dumb ass. Nice to meet you. Earned. Then Chris Nicholl says how about y'all learn something about ego before you open your mouth, and then he posted a link to an article about how Bill lives it's like it's like a long as video. Rush eating like, beautiful grass. Hey, guess what? People's never gonna be fucking murdered for meat like almost every other cow. So it's Chris Nichols. Just on a home camera being task vivo. Let me. Check them out cock on beaver. All right about the hard body the hard factor. Our body weight loss competition week five way in results are in. And Pat takes his first golden broccoli trophy home with four pounds lost during the week. So congrats good took sitting out New Year's Eve. That's akhavan. That's some resolve off. We did it. That's off that New Year's Eve got me. That's for sure Mark came in second with three pounds will got third with just over a pound loss. But that just over one pound broke me from the three hundreds into the to nineties. So a big one nice Willie. That's huge as good hopefully, not to return and west got fourth with just under a pound loss. I barely edged out west. And I am in the two thirty eight through the two. Count got a mile. Breakthrough. Allege does look pretty shitty compared to mind, but you know, sure. Well. Very true. So so the overall results for the whole competition through week five Mark is still in first place commanding lead of negative twelve and a half percent. I'm in second with nine percent lost pats and third with eight percent lost. And then Wes in fourth with seven and a half percent loss, really not separating two through four very much. But Mark's got a pretty big lead still can pretty much fucking mail it in. Marquesa fucking psychopath. We were really great group Tech's going in. Mark has started only texting when he's on his fucking elliptical screen shots of sweaty still quick on tax. I'm working out in text in at the same time. Marks staring into the camera. Sweating. Yeah. Yeah. Mile on his face. A lot of stuff. Putting on Twitter like an asset. I like it. It's got like a, you know sweatshirt hood on. I. So we're gonna go around the room and each give our fat moment of the week since it was New Year's, I know, they're going to be pretty good. But let's go worst to best. So Pat since you one you'll go first Arte didn't. Well, that's not true. I did do some fat shit. So New Year's Eve I post made some salmon veggies from Kirby lane local Austin institution, but the bastards on posts pushing fucking Kirby case on every damn page in the it last minute right before I hit order. I ordered an x curb case years. So oh, no. I drink about one my face. But what do you? Well, I was sitting new year just because you didn't hang out with people. Yeah. I would've drank six bottles. After eight the case. Oh and my salmon head my veggies covered in K. So I was sitting out in two years, and I was really sad. So I needed a feed my feelings, and since I've no food in the house on purpose. I took a ton of walnuts about all. I got doused them with every condom and I had eight him for about thirty minutes condiment covered. Walnuts. Drank soy sauce. Oh, I was. Hi, I'm at harangue sauce. Listen. Sounds like you were high pound on. It sounds like you're a spell. Little high. I go second food wise. I have not really had a fat moment at all in the five weeks butts on New Year's I did start drinking in the earliest afternoon. And they were all like high calorie drinks like we got like a a bunch of truly which for those that don't know what that is. It's like seltzer water with six percent locale drink. I mean, it's it's not essentially hundred. Twelve of those and then and then we split like three four bottles of champagne, which is probably not lower sugar and just a lot of like drinks steadily. And then didn't really eat. But at the end of the night broke out, like three blocks cheese. Healthiest crackers ever. But I was awesome. Eating cheese and crackers, forty minutes cheese, crackers. That's awesome. Awesome. Twenty nineteen lots similar actually. So the Saturday before New Year's I decided to drink for the first time since the last power hour, which is impressive. Yeah. Yeah. Some. But your liver doesn't even hurt it. Well, I'm way out in first place. And I haven't cut out the drink and stuff in a loser. You're so cool. I wish I was more like. Of course, since I'm not drinking very much when I do I'm doing liquor to save on galleries. But the problem is I pour like eight shots per giant drink and so on Friday when I had drink a time ended up blacking myself out and just a couple of hours, and then I woke up extremely full the next day. And remember exactly what I'd eaten. But it turns out it was several chicken tenders right with Dijon mustard out of the fridge. And then after that, I convinced my wife to make me pancakes because just eating Dijon mustard jar. Already had the chicken tenders with lingers spoons fingers, man. I've been friends with will for twenty years, and we we started drinking together. And what I will says when we'll blacks out all bets are off. What's going in that man's in the fridge jar man as whatever he's about? Willer naked. The fridge fridge. She cooked me pancakes thinking that like she's favor turns out that was just an extra meal on top of the drunk meal. I did you get mad at her later. No, no, no, very thankful at that kicked off three days of bad choices in a row. Those two thirty six our fast leading today's way in just to get to number three to the to hundreds maybe, but you're in the two hundreds man will true. But I, but I ordered I'm telling you I woke up so heavy on day. I was like five to six pounds over what I thought I'd wake up immediately ordered a fucking rowing machine. Because like you're gonna say a pizza. Yeah. You could've gone one or two ways. It could have broken you. Or you wanted the rowing machine? So good choice. Has it arrived yet not yet? But I'm ready for I've seen will naked more than any of my friends because when you live with will, and he's drinking you might find him at the fridge but naked at like four in the morning. We've always known that about well, a free spirit. Pants pants tight either really big rat kitchen or will on the morning. He has a small. Yes, they're very small. But all right. So I was of course at home during the holidays, and I I was supposed to leave. My parents had a holiday parties. Of course, there's bunch of snacks and orders and shit there. The next day. I was to get the fuck out of there. And thank you frontier. For cancelled my fucking flight. I'm literally in line checking my bags, and I got a text. So I have to go back home to the land of snacks and leftovers, and I didn't really care at that point. I was like fuck this. I'm eating all the clam dip and all the ships, and all and then and then, of course, I drank my my face off New Year's and then the next day after new years and getting cancelled shop up three me too. Price to what? Because I was at my parents house. It's house in Florida, the inlaws and I lost four. Eight. Competition should be called one guys doing a great job. All three. You lost the most over the holidays. But all four of us loss weight over the holidays. That's not tip. That's impressive. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever. Yeah. Crushing crashing. Yeah. Whatever I wait until going broccoli weeks machines on the way Powell. All right. Let's let's let's get other headlines that we could get to. Quote, coercive control unquote is now a legal form of domestic abuse in Ireland. It's let's find as emotional and psychological abuse aimed at stripping person of their self worth. Based on an whiskey. So that's what it's called. Twenty five percent Irish. Sounds a lot like a crime that you can just accuse somebody of with no evidence at all. So that's pretty scary and hard factors lucky that we don't live in Ireland Tuesday night. And a half days of the week that you're ladies crying. Seriously. I mean, like, I guess that's it's scary for Irish guys. Hopefully, it helps some people, but I'm after so my fucking mouth shut if not comes over to America. Let's keep that away. 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Welcome to PTI porn is a win Antonio Brown on us. So I'm happy to be joined by our great friend from the athletic villains. Frank ties. Another year another year of these two we begin with absolutely crazy news on a south bend and Tampa actually is coming from Chicago where columnist radio host David hall is reporting that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers playing footsie with Notre Dame coach Brian Kelly the Glazer family after dumping dirt cutter over the weekend. Apparently is interested in a big splash higher in. This would be Frank. How likely do you think it is the bucks will actually offer him the job in how likely do you think it is that Kelly would leave what somebody I know calls the university of football in America for the National Football League. How great is Brian Kelly's life when you can lay in the national semifinal thirty thirty Clemson. And now there's talk about your maybe getting a job with a bay that could pay you ten million season. You're in charge of the football operation. They left to talk about generational money. He's a fifty. Year old guy. I understand it snowed today. But here's the thing. Michael will he ever have better than he had this year undefeated until he played Clemson? Yeah. I don't think I'm not one of those people who thinks he's reached the ceiling at Notre Dame. The ceiling is simply losing badly with the likes of Alabama. Or clemson. I'm not with that. I think name has been great as longer than even Alabama and could be greater again. So I'm not going there. My question is is he a good fit for the NFL and Tampa Bay Janus Winston guy who's had issues while also demonstrating some promise. And if you're the Glazer family, I realized, you know, their international family with their their ties to the other football internet. Do do do they really want to make this offers the best candidate they could find for the situation. Well, he's a good offensive coach. I think that has something to do with it. You're also going to inherit James Winston because they want they have said that James James Winston is going to be our quarterback. Next season's gonna make about twenty one million dollars. So I think they're looking at it can Brian Kelly be the guy to get something James swinson who by the way in his career Michael eighty eight touchdowns fifty eight sections for swinson. It's now or never I get the sense one more year. I get the sense that he's not gonna leave Notre Dame. But if you're going to dangle ten million season that's hard to turn down. Isn't it really quickly? What's more likely, by the way, the fire time race for him? He makes about two million dollars. What's more likely that the Packers will hire my guy, Pat, FitzGerald, he would leave north western or the Tampa would hire Kelly and he will leave Notre Dame? What's more likely? Well, first of all that's first reference northwestern in two thousand nineteen so I'm glad we got that out of the way. I think it's Brian Kelly more likely to go to Tampa Bay that money is going to be Hartman. But turn down. Something tells me he'll still be coaching Notre Dame next. What about you? I think the one going to happen. Yeah. A lot of all right. Pittsburgh steelers. Head coach Mike Tomlin on Wednesday denied a report that disgruntled star wide receiver Antonio Brown requested a trade. There is however no denying that Brown's future in Pittsburgh could be in jeopardy. This comes after Brown was inactive for last Sunday season finale because he reportedly threw a temper tantrum at practice that was directed at Ben Rothlisberger. And then he went AWOL for Saturday's walk through Michael the Steelers need to part ways with the great Antonio Brown. They need to. But I would I mean the Steelers turned into now just sort of another discipline when they've never been that. And they'll some of this blame people say, oh, you gotta blame Ben Rothlisberger. No more of it goes to Mike Tomlin who I love as a head coach. All right. But here's the deal that has gotten so sideways now, the sealers are in this distraction mode all the time and Mike Tomlin has rep is a players coach. Maybe he doesn't need to be a players coach anymore. If you can lose like this Tonio Brown and not make the playoffs then with him. You can do it without him. I would get rid of him. He seems now to be more trouble than he's worth. And he's one hell of a player. What they always say. Your best players are going to be your leaders. It's just a matter of which way, they're gonna lead you in a good way in a bad way. Antonio Brown is their best player. So and here you are playing your final game of the season. Now you had to win to have a chance to make the playoffs. So from tencent purposes, it's a playoff game. You have some issue at practice. I don't care about that guys. Get right. All the time, but to not show up for work and then to not show up for the walkthrough excuse. And that's why them by Tom with because Mike Tomlin lost control this team. This is a talented team. That did not make the playoffs. I'm gonna say he lost control Frank. I'm gonna say he gave the players too much of a role. I mean. Yeah. I mean, I know there's always a balance to strike between the players coach and the tough guy who leaves squats on the players all the time. I don't know how he settles it. But this is not going the right way for the Steelers. They have gone in the last year, they probably should have won the Super Bowl, and they blew one. And now they don't make the playoffs. I'm not blaming this on big been a couple of things. Here's a guy NFL record six straight years of at least one hundred catches that's one. And I know you're big into social media. My he's following the Pittsburgh Steelers on Instagram. So I know for you. But you know, how learned about this at New Year's dinner last night. My ten year old van he holds up Instagram. Antonio Brown is demanding train. Like, what are you a news feed? What are you doing is that fill in have your son fill in for you all do the show with grand? He'd like that. Let's pick up where we always seem to be leaving off with the Cincinnati Bengals confusion three days after parting company with Marvin Lewis bingles owner, Mike Brown seems to be spinning as he always does in the same circles, the NFL network reports the bingles will interview as early as today. Current bingles assistant. I guess he's still an assistant and very very very recent former Browns head coach Hugh Jackson Lewis on his way out city thinks Jackson deserves another chance insensitivity or elsewhere. Franken you see this happening or is this just more bingles insanity. Michael, I'm all about giving guys a second chance. And the case if you would be a third chance, I have no problem with that. Here's what's going to be tough getting around three thirty six and one three thirty six and one that was his record and Cleveland. And then when he left when he got fired they were five and three. So as an owner trying to sell something to your fans, and I understand it wasn't the great. The situation in Cleveland for you Jackson up until this season. How you going to sell that to your family's more of an Lewis didn't wanna playoff game, but he leaves with a winning record. How are you going to sell that to your fans three thirty six and one I don't know that Mike Brown's primary IMO was ever selling anything to his fans. I mean, the Bengals is you know, I hate to use the word mom and pop, but that's what the owners and other NFL executives with would. They would describe it. I'm for Hugh Jackson having other chance he was with the raiders and the Bengals speaking and the Browns speaking of dysfunction. Yeah. So I'm fine for Hugh Jackson have another chance. I'm not sure why he would want one with a third situation that seems completely inadequate most of the time. But I I don't I don't doubt that the Bengals will go this way. If you look at Mike Brown's history recent over the last twenty five years, by the way, Marvin Lewis even got tired of it. I don't believe second. Mike Brown fired Marvin Lewis now. I believe the Marvin said, listen, I gave him my best here didn't work to do something else. And I think the way that Marvin Lewis left helped you Jackson because he wasn't hitting leave kicking and screaming, then he's noting his guy for the job, by the way. When you Jackson was the coordinator in Cleveland. I'm sorry in Cincinnati. They'd good Rex. They went twelve and four. They did have good records. This will get this isn't about Hugh Jackson and his ability to coach you're seeing it's about the ability to sell it. And I'm saying why would you wanna go there and be in the third dysfunctional situation been as a head coach? And I know it's tough for African American coaches, given what we just saw to be really picky about head coaching jobs. I feel for Hugh Jackson. Hope he gets a shot somewhere sane. Well, have to get the Baker mayfield's opinion on this one. All right. The New York Jets have started their search for new head coach and three candidates have emerged to replace Todd Bowles. Former Packers head coach Mike McCarthy. He's the big name and there are two offense of coordinators with ties to Patrick Mahomes, who will also be considered UFC's cliff Kingsbury who was Mahomes coach at Texas Tech and the chiefs Eric b enemy who was interviewed on Wednesday. All right, Mike, tell jet fans which candidate should they be most excited about which one. Tell me again has a Super Bowl ring a head coach. Yeah. So my order, right? Now would be McCarthy. And then be enemy, and I know he doesn't call the plays. He has been the boss of in an NFL organization of a unit, and then Kingsbury is very interesting. I'd like to have two of them. I mean Kingsbury to me seems like he needs to come into the NFL and be there. I don't mean throwing three passes as a quarterback, which he was. So you want him to run a unit office of unit and have hands on situation with coach and play calling seems like being a meter meat is ready for a gig now. And obviously McCarthy who says they're going to be picky if you're picky, Frank. Why do you want to go to the jets? Well, you wanna go to the jets boost reason Sam darnold is twenty one years old. So I think that's why when Mike McCarthy is looking at jobs. He's looking at Cleveland Baker Mayfield New York with Sam darnold like, I said, just Twenty-one. Here's what C Beijing thing about the jets in twelve in ten days. It's going to be the fiftieth anniversary of them making their first and only Super Bowl and winning their one and only Super Bowl fifty. Years and they've hired a bunch of rookie coach head coaches. The last time they hired a coach with head coaching. Experience was Bill Parcells and he did a pretty good job. That's why I think in this case it has to be Mike McCarthy, he's a safest pick now. Kingsbury the enemy. They could turn out to be great that's thinking outside. But to me, I think you have to take the safer pick here the guy with a Super Bowl ring that's coach in New York in that market too. I mean, I Mike McCarthy seems to be if he wants to do this. I don't know by hitching your wagon to the jets. I'm a little more good quarterback. Go. Oh. The NBA an absolutely never ending topic. Who's better LeBron, Michael? That's every time. It's slow Braun who brings it up on his ESPN, plus show more than athlete a love the show. The bronze said that winning the two thousand sixteen NBA finals where he and the Cavs overcame a three one series deficit, quote made me the greatest player of all time close quote, Frank really do we have to start this already again. And why is the Bron doing this because the Braun has more media outlets than anybody? What we need in twenty nine hundred one more show with the Braun where he sits around talking about himself and his buddies all kind of nod in agreement if that audience had been stack with Michael Jordan Kareem Bill Russell, and I don't know the coast of will Chamberlain then. Okay. He certainly we all know that the guy is one of the all time greats and that and that performance for him against against Golden State bringing out on the title puts them on a different stratosphere. But we all know Michael everyone's gonna look at Michael Jordan and say six in the finals, and they're gonna look bronze record in the finals. And that's what's going to separate the two three and five so far is it? I don't even need to go. There. Look limit. I need to say this because I hate this topic because I love LeBron. I love them. I think LeBron is perhaps the most important athlete. We have seen in a couple of generations for what he does in the field of play. And what he does in a humanitarian way, I think LeBron is is just an important important athlete it -portant person. But let me now divert and say this did Michael Jordan after ever have to get down run away from his circumstance and link up with another great player to win a championship. The Michael Jordan at ever have to go some. Somewhere else and leave where he was to win the answer is no he didn't. I hate this topic. Because it makes you say things about somebody that seem bad four players to me on the mount Rushmore. Russell magic Michael LeBron. I love LeBron. But Michael never did this. I did interview with him. That's out there circulating. Now. He always said, I'm never gonna say, I'm better. The russell. I'm never gonna say I'm better than Kareem. I don't understand why the brand did this by the his three three and six in the finals. And here's the thing. You don't want to hold it against him that he took that that one Cleveland cavalier team to the fall of the first and the last team took he carried those teams on his back. So it shouldn't be held against him that he knows the conference say to start comparing yourself to Jordan. I'm sorry. I gotta go someplace did Jordan ever run to someone else and say help me. No, he didn't know, let's take a point. And this is why we hate to stopping. Let's take a break coming up. John Elway Tump head coach Vance Joseph. But his he the one who deserves the heat Frank and will hiring Mike Mayock straighten out the raiders just making Messier. How do you not have Kareem all time leading score on the amount? I know I know I feel bad about not having Kareem their Oscar. I will. Interruption is brought to you by Applebee's fourteen ninety nine only you can eat with trim. Smoking always affected my daily life because I was a closet smoker. It really sort of controlled my entire day. 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Faxon Lynch who's out of the league Frank Paxton Lynch gos- with John Elway guess wrong there, and we're talking about head coaches and quarterbacks in the inability to get it. Right. I love John Elway my favorite quarterback probably of all time. He's vault. Now, he he's an absolute legend. But this one has to fall on him. If we're going to give them all the credit for getting Peyton Manning them winning Super Bowl. He's gotta take some of the hate here. They haven't made playoffs three straight years. Like you mentioned fourth head coach in six years. And now his inability to quarterback it's one thing to go out and get payment. Think about the guys like you said Trevor simian Brock Osweiler Paxton Lynch, and now case keenum, so this falls on they had. I'm sorry. John Elway no question about that. We got here. Does adding Mike Mayock as GM make things seem less or more functional. It oakland. Nothing's gonna seem functional in Oakland until functions in Oakland Vegas wherever they wanted to do this Mike may I guess is. Obviously is a terrific analysts fun. Gotta listen to inciteful, man. It doesn't mean that translates from booth to field because if it did then Jon Gruden wouldn't have had this season. He just had because I believe he's gone from booth to feel as well. So you know, I the raiders get no benefit of the doubt. Frank not from me. They haven't earned it. Now. Here's the thing about the raiders. This is one of the most important drafts in the last twenty five years, certainly the most important for Jon Gruden they have three three six in the top one hundred. Now, I'm not saying Mike may I can't do the job. But he's a sixty year old rookie. He's never done this job before and about a decade ago. He interviewed without Davis. And I think that. Has something with Mark Davis hiring. And he's got a connection John. Right. But that's a big risk. Here's somebody. That's never done it and the biggest Rafter ever going to have if it's the big drafting you need what about Mel is Melville. But when mill take time McClay. All right, Mike, are you? Okay. With Manny Diaz bailing on his commitment to temple to take over at Miami. You know, strangely enough Frank. I'm not as outrage over this probably should be maybe because many of my natives dad, I didn't notice today is that was the mayor of Miami. He he was a PA and Bristol for ESPN who worked with some of our producers. I mean, this guy worked his way up from the film guy to a coach and a recruiter, and I'm not I don't hate this. I should because he bailed he gave his word mid nothing. But I'm not outraged. This is the guy that came up with the turnover chain. This is the Yanni of a turnover had a job for like a minute. And you're stepping all over port temple. But come on from Josh mcdaniels in his, hey, Billy Donovan took the job in Orlando. The next day he wins. So if it's his dream job. This is where he wanted to be by the way, got to Miami fired everyone on the offense of staff how about that may mates. They say welcome back. He's says get out get out. Thanks to your Email seem nothing. Let's take one last break the silicon what does the Yankee signing of Troy to it scheme me for the pursuit of Manny Machado and shouldn't Christian politic's transfer to Chelsea have been higher in the show. Come on guys or soccer aficionados who used to come on the best American flyer. You know, I know I know I hear about this kid. Let's consider the secret life of the most nesting dole living most of her life in the duck inside the other nesting does he has plenty of time to think if could Saturday she has no brain, however in the most nesting dole, his gyco not only saves people money, but also has been providing great service for over seventy five. Years. She thinks it's obvious. You should switch because. Yes. 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WeWatchWrestling Issue #278

We Watch Wrestling

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WeWatchWrestling Issue #278

"This is a head gum podcast. Do you watch wrestling? Breeding salutations, though, they're welcome friends foes heels maybe phases. All welcome. The we watch wrestling podcast stymie, wonderful, darling, headed bearded, host wrestling mat McCarthy with me as always the professional wrestling encyclopedia, Mr. Vince, April happy new year, man. Oh, happy new year. Vince, man, I'm happy to see up and around the other night at suburban fight. I turn my back for two seconds. You had gone through table face. First Lord Navon. I don't know. What happened? I've looked at the photographic evidence. Danny Kuna was standing behind me questions need to be asked. Yeah. Victor hates it when I go through table. Unreal man. But nevertheless, here we are twenty nineteen twenty nineteen and much has happened much has happened all elite wrestling my God me, gene. Oakland RIP. Wrestle kingdom mere hours away. Right. We we attended probably the greatest missing something the greatest suburban fight pro wrestling that I've ever witnessed that was a hot show, and we were calling the action very fortunate to have done that they go. And that's everything that's happened. I don't know. What's going? Have a great day. Everybody. This is we're trying to previous version. I don't know what what the plan is there where the suburban fight shows are gonna land, you know. But I think that Madison is working on on the phone. On them up and stream, you know. I think the twitch thing is not happening more. But there is a plan to put the shows up. So that people can see them. I mean, we put them up. I mean, it's it's people are gonna watch them people like him Rhody king with a broken jaw working. He had worked cage match against Santa Callahan. The doctors were like get much saliva in there. That's not yours. It could be a factor. Through the match gross. And then he came in. Fuck in battled old Darby Allen who came atom on one of these fucking lime scooters men. We're getting ahead of ourselves. Good. We watch wrestling podcast dot com. Go ahead. Gum dot com. I get excited. You're you're constantly excited. Pro wrestling teeth dot com. Is there a deal over there is still happening? So here's here's a couple of things. I wanna mention right now for just a little bit longer on our big cartel. We watch wrestling podcast dot big cartel dot com. You can get the where have you seen sip shirt animal Chen style? The farewell shirt for sip. You can go get that at a preorder that orders going in by tomorrow. So get over there. If you're hearing this and get that shirt and send Sifaw and then additionally paroling tease starting a sale on the third which is probably when you're hearing this or nearby that for twenty percent off everything on the store to celebrate wrestle kingdom. So everything on our shop will be twenty percent off. Including for the final time. Anything similar laid it on. There will be available. So go buy all your similar ch- before it goes the way of the dinosaur the Lucia Soroush. No, yeah. I guess get this done before Friday. Yes. Friday. Friday's. She say Friday's the last day. Let's say Friday for everything. I mean, the person I think goes a little longer, but the we have no control you're going to want to buy that big cartel shirt sooner than later while it, but those as soon as the pro wrestling tease sale is over then we will pull in Opole that stuff. You know, we don't need the lawyers and all this getting involved again. Now, man, I don't need our our schyster knocking on my door. Also this Saturday in southern California if you're anywhere near by Los Angeles, my label capitol records recording another Jesse pop album two shows one night at a place called own my ribs on Santa Monica boulevard. Oh, my ribs dot com for more info and tickets come on out support friend of the show. Jesse pop records his new album album, number three. Three. He you stink. I am the best. And who knows what this thing will while it's used ink. I'm the best than the next one should be something about where all in this together, you stink. I don't think he's trying to bring people together this guy. He's not he's very divisive. Jesse pop. I don't even know where to start. I mean suburban fight pro wrestling was a fucking spectacle and a half such a great show tuna was back in action. Her match was great against tuna and Priscilla Kelly match of the night for the the second. Well, maybe was tune on the last year. When was the last one tuna hasn't been on Heather Munroe? I think that was two shows ago something something like that. They had the match the night. I mean, what's what's what's the common denominator here? Vents? Let me tell you this. It's tuna. There are not many I and pro wrestling anymore. Jesus crap match at I this is all I got to say about that. There were there was a spot now match that I have never seen before. I we gotta tell him. What happened? I mean. I like this is one of the things I after that match. I I you know, I texted or maybe it was at the end the night. I just saw one of the craziest matches of ever seen in my life. Because all what happened. And I was like oh my God. I don't even want to. I don't know if I say it. It was the buzzer. The ladies room Georgia stark was on hand. She said that she went the laser after the buzzing after this spot. The ladies were talking for the men were talking to had been knocked silly. And and sat onto a chair. Right Priscilla went down or trunks earlier in the match. I probably the opening of the match tuna was trying to welcome. This this young upstart this newcomer, you know, maybe maybe to suburban fight. She's certainly prefer suburban fight pro. Maybe you remember Priscilla Kelly. She was in the first round of this year's may young. Classic this. This was our first opportunity in her live hell has held gold in shine. That's right. That's right. But tuna said you know, what? Now you've come to Highland Park this. So she's coming. Yes. She says welcome welcome to suburban fight. Pro wrestling welcome to Highland Park. Sticks out her hand a little code of honor to the hand extended a handle on to shake hands with the with the young upstart hells favourite harlot by blaze which referred to. And so right away. I can't believe we're leading with this. Priscilla? She. She dives their handwriting toward trial. He went down the front of a trunk down the front of a trunks, and then she's like air, you can will shake hands with this. And oh, actually, no it wasn't even on that spot. She just goes to shake hands. And then she does the, you know to cool lifts her hand up. Then she goes down the front of trunks and slapped the shit out of tuna with a with a with a loaded hand open hand slap open hand for laugh from her trunks to your head her trunks to her goddamn. So then and then they beat the shit out of each other. They beat the shit out of each other. And I forget who reported back to us. But somebody was overheard someone in the crowd go. Oh my God. Don't go at it. Hotter. Guys were. The hi hat is is a large room with a lot of opportunity to to harm one. Another. You also that show you get a lot of non traditional fans. Get a lot of just new fans, which is great who which is which is what you want. You know? I mean, you got the hot tub guy, if you're running a professional wrestling show in southern California and to Sean two cents the hot, tub guy, isn't an attendance. You do something wrong. You got to take a look at your business model, maybe some to pack it fucked up, but then hot tub was there, of course, was there. Of course, the. The. Mrs Vincent able where Georgia heart stock. I mean, do you wanna talk about hot ticket, you know, something's going down. That's right. If George is gonna make an outdoor wrestling show. Thank you. Everybody was there. So then. Tuna gets not too goofy. She's sitting down on a chair this much later in the match is much later in the match. This is this is a this is a high spot beyond reproach yet. It's open for interpretation. It was a spot. It was a spot. It was a low. It was a low spot shink Brazil goes into tights again. Again, again for the second time, she's gone down the front of trunks. And I was like this time she came out and wasn't was not an empty hand this time. It was not an open hand she pull she pulled something out. She pulled out a tampon. I mean, it's the style was bridge. The permit say what happened? I was I was gonna say a soiled feminine product. Sure or use tampon. Sure. I mean, let's not. I mean, let's not beat around the Bush. There's a joke there. There's a joke there. She pulls it out. She holds it up. Everyone can see it the I mean, people are got the shivers. And this is not this is not. So my can't handle a woman's period or men's pages. Weird. Our it's just unexpected. And it was a very crazy thing to see a man in a pro wrestling match, just because we're two straight white dudes. Don't mean that you know, we're down with the patriarchy. But this was just I did not see this one coming when I signed up for suburban five pro wrestling and then. She put it in her mouth. She put it in Tunis mouth put it then tuna was out so tune it was innermost for like two way too long and that and then I don't know that I blacked out until you went through the hit record until I woke up coda hero and super pan had a Hellenic. But let me say even before that happened. They were having the match of the night already. Yeah. Because they were they were. No, it was it was all it was raining that spot related to that that just that put it over the edge. And it was as we kept saying there's not a lot of firsts left in Russia wrestling now that was a first that's right. And then the lime scooter later when when Darby Allen came out on one of those scooters that you can just, you know, rent on the side of the street, these, you know, like you get the app on your phone, and you can activate the scooter, then this was this spot was videotaped perfectly. So it's vailable on. Hitter and shit, but Brody just fucking clothesline his ass. Why offer that lived lived out the fantasy of probably most people when they see somebody wasn't on the streets of ice of the that's a polarizing vehicle. People hate those things hate those things they had eleven like, oh, ride one everywhere. I go or they're like I wanna pick on the river. I mean that Instagram account like bird graveyard or something. Yeah. People. I I only watched one once somebody showed me the account. Yeah. And I'm scrolling through and I looked at it. And there was one video of a guy. He just grabs when he walks into a subway sandwich shop, and that just takes it and puts it in the garbage can in the subway. It's their problem. Now, this is somebody else's problems that hotdog sandwich serve in place. Subway, all their all their meat has made out hotdog. Vince can't deal can't watch somebody make sandwich. Yeah. Man, Jake atlas and. Blanking on. Fucking jungle. Boy. Oh, right jungle boy ride of valley village, California, straight out of the jungle jungle boy is you know, where you are. You're in valley village, he still a lot of hearts, you're going to die. Yeah. No for sure he's. He looks like he's got he's got some star potential on them. He's got a great look. He's got just outrageous head of hair, and I liked it came out dressed for suburban fight. He's a giant. But he borrowed somebodies jeans and their iron maiden t-shirt. He took the loincloth off because he knew that he didn't wanna get rug burned everywhere. And always makes me go back to the that that free birds versus the von Eric's, the free birds were all wearing jeans and cowboy goats. Yeah. Maybe maybe someone on us a low to one of these days. It's bourbon fight, you never know you never can tell he's got interesting boots general boy. Yeah. Man that was a hot show good times. Then then that was the open giant was a food and Koto hero. That was a fucking. That was a great one. Yeah. It's just a fun show in. And it's like it was like four matches. Boom, boom. Yeah. It's just a it's real nice real nice thing. If you have a chance, you should check it out at Brody, Darby brody's, farewell. They fuck in. What was he? We're up on the stage. The announced position we got a, you know, a classic table a professional wrestling wooden table. You know, you're sitting there doing on, you know, the one, you know, the one I mean a Dudley table, and that's what they always called it a WWE. There was just. It's the gorilla position. Now to Dudley table. You know, they made their Mark they made their Mark. I was found that interesting to like man, they call that that here, which I'm sure Vince claims the Dudley's because there that was you know, but I remember I had a hell run when they first came in because of how the public enemy had sort of been chewed up and spit out, whether it was their fault, babe yearly or not or just didn't take. I think the Dudley's had to really come in and prove themselves. I think there was that that stink was on them. Like, here's another tag team for me CW that might think that are a little hotter shit than than we think they are going to think, but obviously the Dudley's excelled trying to remember when they came in that they'd come in when he CW closed there was before them. Remember, I think it was more. Yeah. Right. Definitely. Yeah. Right. Yep. Definitely because model enemy was there. And like. Already public enemy went to W W. I, but they they went they went to both. But you know, enemies, the one where JBL and Faruk classically wasn't wasn't them. It wasn't the deadliest. Right. Where they like started shooting on them because the o- on who's who's whose version you want. But it's like they j b fruit. They said they weren't. Yeah. They weren't going to do the finish the head been laid out or something. And then JBL laid them out. I just can't even. Sipa cover the word, man. I just can't even imagine somebody at. Today. It would never happen. You would have to be like a. Like Randy Orton or John sina level to be like, and it wouldn't even be like. I mean, I suppose one of those guys would I couldn't picture John CENA doing it? I could picture like a Randy Ord being like not doing the job of the fucking with folk what do that? Whereas, but even in that situation, I think it was public enemy. Right, right. I can't imagine anyone coming into. Maybe I can especially in the late nineties because they're thinking we've got we've got options we can go. Elsewhere where draw where bigshots imagine JBL being a dick. This is the other thing. Do you know there's this? There's this kid who plays for. Georgia the football team, and they they were in a bowl game. But not lie as a football team one of one of the national title games. And the dude was like all right. Fuck it like, I'm not I'm I'm gonna hold myself or the draft. I'm at point of this fucking ballgame. Not risking and JBL just been tweeting. Like you let your teammates down this. It's like mother fucker. Are you gonna pay this, dude? If you fuck and destroys his leg doesn't get paid like come on J JBL to Jamie should be tweeting a PC. Oh, you mother fucker. You forget. Car battery up you do your fucking dates you piece of shit. I wonder who is still friends with WWE. I mean, if anybody is still around that was there when he was there. But I mean, he must know see this is the other thing I was talking to some guys about this the other night where it's like PC like, oh, great. I've got my contract ring of honor. I don't have to fulfil my Indy dates I'm gonna fuck in tex- people the night before the day of to you gonna go back ring of honor isn't going to be fucking ever. That's right. Well knows. Yeah. I I don't mean ring of honor is gonna business I'm say, maybe PC, oh will come to the end of his running ring of honor. And Sinclair broadcasting will say, thank you very much. I mean it regardless obviously, the move is not to try do what you said you would do, bro. Brody's his jaw wired shut and he's wrapping up his days, wrapping of his Brian cages. Baby that bar wrestling. Video. It was incredible. I guess we got his jaw wired because he he had a promo. I was like a promo. I don't know, man. I guess I was about to say, maybe it wasn't as bad. But it's like, no, there's no good case scenario. Breaking jaw all elite wrestling mat? What do you think dude? This is gonna be fucking balls out. It's it's a new year. I'm very interested. It's it's it's curious cody's in the fischel. I haven't heard that. But I have to imagine. Right. I mean, but but it's interesting that they're doing that rally outside of the Jacksonville football stadium because the kid, you know, the owners kid is like the money guy. Right. But they're doing it and smackdown is happening at the arena next door. So the fans will centrally have to sort of go pass the rally. Oh, I didn't know about this. Yeah. That rally is on the same day as the smackdown taping at the building next door. They just happened to be next door to the fucking. Joe, we're maybe it was just, you know, maybe the stars align. But it's not, you know, not for nothing. But there to it right there off I think the scratching on your beard. Sorry, man. Hey, hopefully, hopefully, nobody gets fired, you know, nobody decides to come out from. No, I think everybody learned their lesson from poor Jimmy Jacobs. But I mean, that's gonna be interesting man because. You know, I don't know how you fill out a whole other roster right away. Because some of the guys like if you think about all in their plenty of guy like ring Avante was helping and nutrients helping so if you're not in cahoots with one or both of them, you got a lot less town to work with a I mean, depending on whose contracts coming up there won't be enough coming up right away. I wouldn't think. It's interesting. I mean, you know, this was such a big story. Fucking Alvarez called up Meltzer in Japan. Can I tell you that I have been tirelessly searching to to try to find any social media that meltzer's kid might have. Because I just need to see. I just wanna see photos from the the father son Meltzer trip to just ran. He's got to be on Instagram. Right. I I mean, his name's Cody Meltzer. That's all I know. And that's not the most unique name apparently. But I have not been really to though because even looking. Yeah, I've been trying to look into that. That's not. That's not Cody. That's not the Cody Meltzer. I'm seeking these are not the droid Zeke get at us if you if you can track this down 'cause I mean, it's it's that would be right up there with like, Michelle McColl's, Instagram. Just like did when he was when he was on the phone with him. And he's like, oh, yeah. He he like reference like where was that? And then he's like where was that mural? He's like, you know, people are getting their picture. I mean, I got my front of it. Right. Then immediately. I went to meltzer's. Meltzer's twitter. I was like, where's this picture of him in front of he doesn't post that kinda shit? We. Photos. I don't have to house and watch a slide show. Can you? Imagine some pictures up come treatise. I, you know. All right next lied. Do you think meltsa sits there and like his wife operates are sought operates the the projector next live. Yeah. Cody, and we went to went an arcade in the we ran on the box. Well, where where where Kate? Yeah. We were an arcane I was playing Tekken. Could you imagine seeing Meltzer on like that dance dance? Fucking video game. Yes. Yes. I would love. Photog- people. There's so many people in Japan. So many of us get to go. So where the ones in receipt of taking pictures meltzer's, James and no one wants to help make fucking shoot us a fucking text from Japan. Tana Hashi keeps posting these these videos of him doing wind sprints. I just want to catch one where meltzer's like in the background. Maybe. Like like us. She just zooms by most better apps than you. I loved on Hashi. I hope he fucking wins. I really the story that's been told Tana. She's the man, but these wind sprints. It's like he it don't. I haven't watched. I haven't seen that. He doesn't look right running. So that's like by the his his finishing move is a fucking frog. Splash and half the time. He does it to the fucking outside of the ring. There's no way he has knees or hips anymore. Yeah. I don't I just massive. I don't fully understand the win sprint idea going into the match. But you know, I'm not gonna question. He's he's one one hundred years that's running lace that's running with like a parachute behind you. Right. Will. I mean, he's just he's just doing sprints. Oh, see this is what I'm picturing in my head. Yeah. No, he just he's just out on the street or sometimes in the ring him and Han Marin, they're doing just just some like I love that HAMAs like a full of. Of tunnel. Hashing? Do you ever watch that Honma dock? They put on new Japan. This is before he broke his neck, drain. Oh, drinker, man. Oh my God. I it sounds like he's gargling nails. And then, but it it's just he's like he's like he goes to the same restaurants Tana Ashi like this is what Tana shorties like, I don't understand. Why can't have his body? I work out. Yeah. Man that show which you know. So if you don't if you talk about the actual main show itself. Yeah. The opening match is fucking KOTA. Bucci versus will Osprey. That's the fuck and open. That's what's insane. I mean, they have a pre show match. I think they got more than one because they got rid of the the rumble. Yeah. That's too bad. There's definite. There's there is like a definitely like a six, man. I think there's a a six man gauntlet for the never open, wait six. So that that's the that's the one pre show match. Well, yeah. If you doing a gauntlet with a bunch of teams that might even take up the an hour that seemed right? Maybe potentially. Remember when they did that call match on raw like the whole show. Oh, yeah. Good ole Ron smackdown. Sure. The the writers worked on a fucking show for an entire week pitched Vinci's go out on a guys they get to TV on Mondays the fuck is this oh that that's the show that you approved today's ago. Just have them wrestle the whole fuck at time. I'm a genius Fogel. It's been a little while since we recorded there was that great moment on last week smackdown. Where we didn't even talk about TLC on the show he slapped AJ and then AJ punched him, dude. And of course, they stayed there for a long time. I think I'm alright. Go ahead is face. I end why am I doing? Why would I do this? My son has never not disappointed me. I mean, he's. Someone came in with some vice grips and turned the screw in the bag was head to tighten that face up. God, I'm not old. I'm just. Oh. Theo see was fucking that. You know, the matches that were whatever whatever. But the badges that were fucking hot. We're fucking hot. Yeah. The Charlotte Charlotte Becky an Oscar that was done real, dude. Didn't we do? We talk about this in person. But not like not online alive. It's been the life shows. I thought we may be talked about online show. Anyway, did we mention it now? Well, we previewed it on a live show. Okay. I you know, I might dates are all mixed up. I don't know what day. It is your shit. Righteous. No, the wrestle kingdom comes on tomorrow midnight. We're gonna be watching it. Of course, we always been watch it Tashi men that the story. That's the best story of the year. Did you see if we can go ahead gum? He's sick of these Americans. Okay. That's right. New bam. Pro wrestling feel like, you know, his his vision and a few other guys over there natives their vision is not with all this western influence. So we'll see how it all plays out. She. You want him to win. You think he's gonna win? Because like KENNY'S the. Kenny's the face of the company now isn't he yet, but his contract is up too? So if Kenny if KENNY'S going where he's going if he is then that could also, you know, but also think. Like, you can tell the story and and be Kenny, and it's all right but ensure open he's been protected. So I think that I I don't know. I hope I hope and I think there is a chance there certainly a chance to Tonga Ashi will come out on top. I've seen the training is doing he's tiptop condition. I don't know about this. These wind sprints spent a question Mark on. But what makes it a win sprint? It's just it's just a service. Call just like, you know, like a suicide you run touched the line run back. Oh, yeah. Thing you know, there's a number of names. Sprints win sprint suicides, see wearing like wind pants if he's wearing like MC hammer pants for the resistance. Yeah. He's got his got his cavalry cheese on or whatever. Did you? Did you hear Bray white came back at like a house show or something? I did. But I didn't sit on TV was a house show. I think it was a house show. I think he was just the same Bray. Wyatt. After all that to leads us Twitter. He's like I figured out who I really am. So the same guy. Hey, man, who I really am. It's me, it's me very wide. Now, it's diff- door, Alabama different a change. My underwear, ma'am. Oh, you can't tell a forgot. I'm wear a pain man who owns brought you. Yeah. John senior. He's back on TV. Yeah. He people are angry with him for having a haircuts. Yeah. I mean, the hair the hair startling, but I don't think it's caused. It's certainly it's different than look hulk HOGAN. Options HOGAN painting his face black. Right. Was ridiculous. Yeah. John senior beard his beer. Yes. Going on just want to clarify never been my face black dude that was half of Roddy piper. Or other? And also triple h and everybody else deacs it's called just for men, dude. That includes everybody. You know, I believe that all men were created equal. That's why I use just for man, and my my favorite colors black for men. Obvious reasons. I'd be totally fine. My daughter dated a guy with black hair or nothing, but love brother, h h. This is h h he's he signs every voicemail signs of your tweet. What a fucking maniac area. We know. We know. Boop used to sign my tweets TV. But then I realized that's burglars. Dude. I did think that it was. Probably what you thought they might do. But not the best idea on this week smackdown. You know, they've got this crop Newtown. They announced like all new town. That's coming in. They just ran a vignette for each of them back to back in like in the same rice ain't time. It's like Brennan out. Right. Like why it's like? There is something. I don't know why. But there is something that it's just a bunch of together it it. It does doesn't it make them feel a little less special, of course. And they're going, and you know, they're saying they're making it a point we're bringing up Newtown. Okay. Who gets a fuck BIC give a fuck, you know? Right. And then they just the random altogether just kind of like all right here. They are. Here's the bunch of God lead. With LARs, LARs, I o God, LARs Sullivan. Oh. Jesus vince. I mean, my God the first time we laid eyes on him at that annex t show where he put only Larkin on the shelf. Yeah, we were like the sky SOX. And I'm sure Vince fucking loves them Vince fucking love as him. Well, I'm sure they'll strengths and weaknesses. Oh, yeah. He's big put about twenty minutes. I li-. Yeah. I mean, you know, this is not a show we could play in. But it, oh, it is hilarious. Yes. Oh, it is a Larry that, you know, it's going to be change. And then Barron Gordon's in the fucking main event, again, whatever he's the lone wolf, oh, he's so loan. He's the executive vice president of whatever the fuck. So does he just go back to his, you know, hanging around in a biker bar gimmick. But not in a biker gang. He found himself. It's him. Oh, yeah. Fucking corporate Kane. Corporate gain. He should have been in the main event cave. Glenn another run Clinton's tall that clip that I completely missed until we were watching that botch. Mania of from the that Lascaux and Saudi Arabia where his where Shawn Michaels like inadvertently ripped his mask right off. Right. And then with the hair and everything. Yeah. And then he had to fuck and sort of vamp. Well, they reapplied as head down on the floor. You know, it was also weird is there was a minute where I'm jumping back. Now there is there is a little while where like suddenly Hogan's eyebrows were just like darker, they weren't blonde anymore. It's like was he was he darkening his eyebrows. Was he lightning them? Or are you you're talking about like when he was still yelling read? Lack? I would you still yellow and red. Yeah. Right. At the very end of is WWF, Ron we're going into WW. It was like his doubt. And his eyebrows. Were eyebrows changed? Yeah. Yeah. Well, what happened? We should probably just tweet at them. It was going on with your eyebrows. This is me. Just call myself remind myself. Note to self stop big races. And also explained to the do over at the we watch wrestling podcast. What's going on with my brows brother pickups Miller lights on the way home pick up? A new garbage can Jack Allcock and shopping list, plenty of ice. All right. What's going on? All right, Nick, Anisur run inside. You're not allowed to drive the car, dude. So I'll sit the car. He's driving. The monster truck from the fucking that Halloween havoc do grab Grammy. Grabby one of the big pouches of crab sticks. Kate with a crab. Stick crab, stick give me three of them. But not three case in a row, dude. It's the old me stays are gone, dude. I guess everybody's a little bit. Everybody. Everybody's just a little. I don't even like saying the word race as as is are just starting back and forth during that pause. Hey, what's going on to what do you mean? My eyeballs looked like pong for second. I don't know that game was playing video games in the seventies. Doodo busy play bass. Due to do to do. I. I wish Metallica would get off my back. I can't do it. Do you think like be on the road? And like they'd go somewhere them hanging around hotel room him beefcake, and like the flipping channels and Seinfeld comes on. He's just like start even real base, dude. That's a fucking keyboard cat shit like it's fucking pace. And you know, this Kramer, guys racist, right? You know? I mean lost in the shuffle for me a little bit as the Okada Jay white. I mean, that's that's another match that has a real hot story going in. But. It. It's not sticking out to me. I mean, obviously could be a fucking barn burner every match. Is going to be phenomenal feels that way to able to walk away with probably a four and three quarters match on this year's wrestle kingdom is gonna mean you had the worst match on the show well show and yo- and the boys have to follow that fucking Osprey. Bucci are gonna have their work cut out for him. I mean, first of all I don't think we've had a chance to talk about it on the show the tag match between golden lovers and Ohashi and spray. Yes. Jesus fucking Christ. God. Yeah. That that was the fucking hot match to be certain. What's also, it's it's crazy to because it's the most logical thing to do before a big fight, you know, to have the tag, and as one of those things where. You really watch they'll go and do it now. But you'd be hard pressed just lay down Kelly. You'll be fine. You wanna hop down hop down. There's a lot of wires. He's into this dance before pull the gear. She laying down on the wires. No, she's like looking under there. She goes get outta here. Like, they head of hair the Hansen's get air. Gilda sort. It turns anything into a pillow update that fucking Instagram. Oh, yes. Gildas pillow Gildas pillows tag match leading into the match. 'cause they did it. It never. You'll never see WWE do it. Because Vince is like he gets into this. Why we're giving it away. Why would we give it away? Telling the story to get to somewhere else. And it's like when they're in a tag. It's not, you know. Oh, see Vincent thing is all God. They can't touch. They can't touch before the batch or it's an into the shit out every other week trying to get this match over, you know. Yeah, you'll always see that. It's one of the other. It's very few that inbetween. Yeah. Very very few is, you know, they could touch wants. But not again, while my hope I mean New Year's day actually gonna be very interesting because that will. Yeah. As it always does give up. It's not like the raw wrestlemainia this this show actually gives you some good into. What's what's going to go down for the rest of the year? Remember when the RAF to wrestlemainia was like it was like the beginning of the the season. Like, it was you know, they'll still do some debuts. Sometimes sure, but it's just within the last five. Six years. It's just turned into. They're just doing a wrestling show at delta house and all the like, John Belushi. And and otter as like that they're the ones in the crowd. Funneling beers fucking kicking around fucking, you know, beach balls. They got barbecues go, and like people, you know, it used to be the hottest raw to watch. And now, it's just I couldn't want to avoid it more. I hope that feels like the right after wrestlemainia has turned into a substitute teacher. And everybody's on their worst behavior. He's got his he's got his hand up. I have I make Lieshan hustle respect. I have written. That's right. I have my my index finger and my thumb together. And I am just cut a promo. My hope is that Tana she wins. And then we see him in a fucking legitimate. I w GP championship match at Madison Square Garden. Wolf in April wolf dope. I keep forgetting about. They messed Square Garden show. I mean as long as ring of honor new Bank, keep working together. I don't know. Like this all thing. We don't know what that's going to look like, but I hope that they're together long enough. Yeah. That garden show we get to see something real fucking special. It is interesting that because Meltzer was going off on it. Because it's like he's like, this is the greatest thing to happen for talent. All leap gets off the ground because they got money behind them to. But like, you know, him he is and Bandido as an example that ring of honor scoop them up that everybody made him an offer clearly all elite would have wanted them. But there's I don't know. But they're I guess they're signing people. I don't know who. Yeah. WWE wanted rig of honor put the money. Yeah. I imagine, you know, even if the ring of honor offer wasn't the WWE offer there's still some freedom there. Right. I like Bandido. Yeah. To still work in Mexico and shit like that, you know. But you know, what is is is what I was getting up before if you look back. It's and it's crazy that they actually did it was they did before Manny eighteen they had on the raw on the go home Gilda stop. She likes her paws Amman Gilda. She's like, you're not paying attention to me. I'm gonna look my paw. If I if I go in the bedroom, don't Pat her and say to her, but I that I hear her litter fucking park. She's like, it's all or nothing this dog. It's been dick Paul looking. She's like, oh, well, nobody loves me. I might as well just lick my paw to I make myself throw up. They did the tag. They did like they did stoke gold and the rock versus like, hulk, HOGAN and razor, Ramon whatever that match. It must have been. Maybe it was was was Nash Nash must add a match on that mania to right and right. But it was it was still versus razor, right? Yeah. But I mean, it's just it's crazy like that. Like, there's a match where don't have them touch. You know? Hulk in rock, right? If you're gonna do that. And also don't just give away stole cold and HOGAN, right, which was the master do. But then you know, now, we're back in a situation. Look at home. See fuck reason, why do that book match. I gonna folk. That motherfucker over you fucking kidding me. And not even and there's no way in how. No chance that whole Gauguin would come out of. A stone match with stone-cold the winner. But I mean, it's just can you imagine because they the shit out of the rock. There Boone stoke that. I mean, Steve no now, whatever it's like the two the two greatest matches in history that they were should've done at wrestlemania. And then didn't HOGAN stone cold HOGAN, Rick flair course. Yeah. I mean and in both those situations, obviously. For lack of better term politics came in between the I mean, my to do so, and obviously, you know, rock and hulk touched before that match, you know, rock bottom on hulk. Eighteen Wheeler on rocky my via. I mean, but I mean bean is known meaning by. God. Whoo. Gene. The fucking. I mean, a guy who transcends pro wrestling, everyone, you know. Yeah. These situations in our lives when people start sending you messages. I've again a lot. I got one taxed that was like, hey, an thinking about you today. And I was like all right. Let's go to observer dot com. I don't who fucking died. Yeah. Sure. Enough. Yeah. Mean Jean like everybody knows me, gene. Everybody knows me, gene. Babe was telling Gladys owes like Megyn Oakland. She goes. Oh, okay. I pulled the pictures. Oh. And me, gene is involved. In your very first recollection of pro wrestling. My earliest memory of pro wrestling. Because I mean, I have I have flashes of like, this is my first vivid memory like an like, I remembered this strangler Lewis Donnelly Jonathan and then later rank. Frank farmer Barnes. I remember like images and songs, you know. Like, I remember the championship wrestling opening when Bob back was there's no way. I could remember when Bob. No, maybe I do there's just, but I like I remember that he was bad. He I remember the music. Yeah. Because I would have been like two or three by the time the app. No, no, no. Because at HOGAN didn't win until eighty four March of eighty four and then the first Manny was eighty five. So there are there are glimpses. I like, I remember waking up and my brother was already watching wrestling in the row, you know. And I remember when. But I mean, this was for a while when the just the instrumental track of thriller was the theme song championship wrestling. And I remember before that the Bob Acklin open where he was the champ. And all the kids were in the ring and the and the music was. What's the name of the song? It's by the Dixie dregs. It's it's one of the one of the early issues. Also, by the way, if we still get this to this day, if you are looking for the original issues because the bag issues are all on whatever podcasts at you. Listen to us on their on head gum there on art nineteen whatever hosting us. If you're looking for issues one through thirty which forever is an art on I tunes anything that's not on I tunes. I tunes doesn't go all the way back for some reason golden age if you're looking for that original run it's on Lipson liberated syndication L I B S Y N, just Google that we watch wrestling. That's that will have the first one hundred twenty five years, your gateway. There's your gateway drug and those early early days we used to do drugs who used to do drugs. Before the show, then then doing the show, then it slowly started creeping into during the show. I remember one person very early on comments to you. I remember you saying they're like they should call this show. We watch wrestling stone. And I was God they figured it out. But onto we we definitely ended in early up issue with that song by the Dixie islands. But at any rate, the first real vivid? I remember the full thing front to back and then years later when I finally watched it again, it was exactly the way I remembered it. Yeah. Was when I and I don't know if we were watching Tuesday night titans when an aired or if somebody had rented the best of WWF volume one, right? The Coliseum video. But it those are the only two options that could have been there was a match, and I don't even understand the circumstances of why the match happened in storyline. But for whatever reason meaning Oakland was was slated to be Hoke Hogan's tag team partner versus George the animal Steele, and Mr. Fuji. And so they have this series of training. Yeah. Montages these vignettes of hulk whipping mean gene into shape. Yeah. And they're just hysterical. I just love also E E C means kitchen in quotes, nothing better than the non athlete in the dislike generic grey. Oh sweatshirt, and yes, you know, HOGAN comes over and means kitchen with the fucking like shitty curtains, and those that color scheme that could have only existed in the, you know, opening years of the eighties. Yeah. You know, they do the whole drink in the raw egg. Oh god. God you ever try that? Fuck no. No. But I just remember like him on the wrestling album. Yeah. All the like localized promos like, and then and then he has a second life with WW, right? When Nitra and all that shit. I mean, I would love to be able to watch those old Awa TV's because Meltzer is always on about how he'll say whenever they finally get around to Meltzer doing his bit. Yeah. Unseen. He's going to he'll say it again. Because I've heard say him say a million times that gene was thousand times better on Awa than he ever was on WWF, obviously one man's opinion. Sure. But in lorries, it's a crazy statement statement. But yeah. Hopefully, eventually, they'll put that shit up. Is that an ESPN thing? We'll you know, what's weird is. If you go into hidden gems is they'll put in some I wish the hidden gems was a little bit more organized Jesus Christ. It's like the shit. Something new comes out, and you can't fuck and find it because you put in the year, and it's like, oh, no it didn't come out and twenty eight teen you gotta figure out what year the Ryan's from come on. Yeah. 'cause I hidden. Yeah. It's like, oh, there's new hidden gems. Why are you hiding them? Right. You hit him. Yeah. In the hidden gems. You're going too far with the gimmick. So if they could just because things are organized by company to to a point where it's like, they they'll do it with the TV shows. But like, you go into the Awa TV show, and for whatever reason they've decided we're only gonna put up the Shawn Michaels years Awa was already halfway in the dumpster by that point. Yeah. But in the hidden gems, they have put up a couple Awa arena shows. Okay. So like. I can't even think it was at the rock reunion, the rock and not rock and wrestling, right? The yes, rock what does that fucking call rock something? And. Yeah. Rumble rock. Yeah. So the brawl and Saint Paul whatever they shit up there. Yeah. Which I haven't watched I still gonna watch that pilot. But you told oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. With that's fun. But yeah, then, gene. I remember when when gene when Megyn gene, I showed up on WCW. And this was when I wasn't. Totally all back in. But you know, if wrestling was on I was flipping through channels. I would check it out and always felt like more times than not the show. I would because WWF it was you know, Saturday morning Sunday morning. Is not a ton of you know, Sunday morning, if I could God going to church Christ, you know, or Saturday morning because now we're in my teen years. Yeah. It's like am. I even going to be up or we do mouser. Do I know how to program VCR yet Jesus h Christ? But. So more times than not it would be w Saturday night right flipping around like what the fuck was on six five or so five pm on a Saturday night. There's nothing doing also he was the fuck and hero or one of the heroes of what was it called the legends house? She remember him on legend. Sal course, he he was imbibing. And he was he was Barron. Soul little bit. That's right. That's right. Forgot about that. I asked tears were shed man, they did everything they could to sell that show to a legitimate television station. Yeah. Like that thing was in the can for years before it finally made its way onto the WWE network. And I feel like for a while to there was always like rumblings of they were going to do another one. Oh, yeah. Right. Man. 'cause they was because it was because that was what I was there. Yeah. They'd shot that shit. And then that mania all those guys were there. And then hearing them talk about or just like peripherally being next to conversation or walking past the conversation. Like, none of them could stand. Tony atlas his fucking laugh Kat. I'm Tony Islas started laughing like on the other side of the lobby of the manual hotel. And I remember I like I was either near Pat Patterson or gene, Oakland one of them. But they were just like oh my fucking God. I think it was Patterson took off my gods. Monce listening to this fucking laugh. Yeah. I feel like they made it a point on that show to feature that. So they probably were prod him to laugh even more than the otherwise would have. Maybe it was during the. The hall of fame. Because I think that was the year that was at the year that hillbilly Jim went in. I don't know. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. When Edwin hillbilly Jim went into the hall of fame. Whoo mean wou by gene. So the the Becky Lynch sina they had came up Jin-Ho cammo put the nickname mean, Jane. I dunno Jesse Ventura. Oh. And I was once I found that out I found that very early on when I would watch HOGAN what always called Alfred Hayes awful Laufer d-. And I was like or he would call Vince like, this vicious, Vince and always in the back of my head. I was like he's trying to he's try. It's it's it's like he's doing everything he can go. Boop. It was going on Jesse fucked up. I've totally was going to call him me, gene. Earlier that day. I didn't think do then you fucking sparked the ball dude, h h h nothing nothing rhymes with a Vince, except for prince that doesn't work prince Vince is not gonna work. Dude message ESI your fucking guards fail kid. The but the seena Becky Lynch that interaction on smackdown. Oh, Vevey and Aki little vast. Yeah. I mean here I go again. Oh, no. I'm into it. I think she's great. So is are you sort of a little bit where she's like? On the best. Right. You guys. Love me the most right? Like like almost to the crowd. It's like everyone knows that that they think I'm the best one right which just like it just feels a little forced it doesn't feel like like her being the man or her being a heel. It just feels like let's remember we're on the same page here. Right. Like, I'm I'm the man. I don't know interesting. But but again that, you know, don't worry about me knowing these worry about me. Oh. Or vince? And then well, there was some it's it's she's a. I don't know. She's a baby face now. But she's still acting the way that she did. Right. Right. Whereas what was interesting before is. She was supposed to be the he'll Charlotte was supposed to be the baby face. The crowd was reacting opposite. Yeah. And it was interesting because she was acknowledging their cheering for me. Yeah. Which was at feels like the first time a he'll in WWE lease was allowed to acknowledge these people are cheering for me. Yeah. Yeah. Case you don't you? Don't hear you. That's right. So maybe that's what the differences. Yeah. I'm going to be very clear, I'm into it. I will say that are we clear her her portions of the match MS Zelina vague didn't didn't knock my block off. But well, Charlotte is the best in ring female as far as in ring just in ring work, Becky, obviously, put it all together at this point. She's better than Oscar. I mean, it certainly close, and maybe maybe Charlotte just been given more opportunities. I mean, Charlotte's of it athlete. Credit all three of them. Are are. Unreal. It's I mean. Yeah. I I'm I'm all for this discussion of the women main eventing, wrestlemainia, whatever that means at this point. I really hope really hope handsomeness that it's not snowing in New York. Varel? That it's Charlotte know that it's not. But it's Becky. Well, look, if I had my way if I could book it and get there. Scott. Sky sky, Becky ASCA would be the batch. Okay. But oh, Rondo Rhonda. But I feel like, but but but. I feel like Becky and Ronda is the match. Becky. But I mean, you know, Charlotte and Rhonda could make sense to. But if we're talking about, you know, the movable object unstoppable force. Becky, rhonda. Yeah. 'cause it's not dissimilar to them leading up to wrestlemania fifteen and being like, well, I know we know for facts don't cold is gonna challenge for the title at mania fifteen whoever the champion is the match that makes the most sense the two biggest stars. They have going right now rock Austin. But in my heart of hearts, and especially at the beginning of the year. I was like, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Mick Foley, still champion, if they could pint sky book, it myself figure out a way to get there when we get there. Do stone coal Seve Austin versus cactus, Jack. Main event mania for the belts. But it made too much sense for to be rock and Austin, and it's also it makes too much sense for to be Becky and Rhonda. I mean. Please don't make it a three way. Please don't make it a four. No, no, no. It needs to be one on one. And I think that, you know, coming off of the their original Macha riposte to have it does feel like Becky and Rhonda, but it's a long it's a long way to the top. If you wanna rock and roll, it's a long way. Yeah. Right now about one hundred eighty five things are going to change between now and mania. Yeah. Is time man. To talk about Vance. Yemen. Dies are terrible taking care of their health. Whether it's a knee injury bad back or something Moore's guys, usually more, comfortable Robinson, dirt on it than seeing a doctor when I had coaches, they didn't tell me to rub dirt on it. They had a different phrase that they would use as a way of telling you to keep it warm. I'm guilty of it Vince is guilty of it. I mean, you know, sometimes you just don't want to go to the doctor. No, I remember one time. I was pretty sure that I looking back. I probably fractured something in my wrist. But I was like, nah. My brother's got a pinkie that. I don't think they re broke it. 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Counters at a WBZ as a WWE calendar, we decided to go to WalMart yesterday for a few odds and ends and my beautiful in towns that wife, but that in the shopping carts, we need a calendar. She came around the bed, and there was and I go oh by. Yeah. This is a real honk here. So yes. So I'm not I'm not peeking. I don't know who February is. Okay. I assume it's got to be one of the hearts vow. Maybe Greg Valentine may Valentine's Day. Ooh. Ooh. That'd be cool. You know, you gotta get March heyday marches shameless and horn suave and fit Finlay can we get Greg? Can we get Greg pay day, Vince, his favorite wrestler of all time from calendar? Residuals? Good. Golly. Miss molly. Until you do twenty nineteen is off to a fuck and banging start. It's a banger. Man. I don't even know what to think about this. Because it's like I feel like candy. I don't know it doesn't. I don't know if it hurts. Anyone to lose that match. If we're running with Kenny I can't here's the thing though, does Kenny omega go to all Lee wrestling. Does he go to e or does he go to the e I mean? Or he's got nothing left to accomplish in. New japan. Other than you know, other than to, you know, just have a legendary career sure for years, but maybe he'll only wrestle on Jericho cruises moving forward. Once a year. He's like undertaker, but it's just the Jericho crews. Yeah. Derrick Jericho's gotta be. Interested in all elite. He's got to be interested in having us on the new Jericho new Jericho cruise coming up. When is it? They haven't announced it yet. But they said it's cutting announcements come in Matt all into is common double or nothin' double or nothing. It's all happening. Twenty nineteen. Brother. Gone on a map and you come on the cruise ship, bro. Boop going on just want you to know that I'm a reassigned to deal with WWE can't make Dolly dude, h and then it's one of those things where they listen to the message. They're like we didn't love what you kids are doing. Hey, love the tribute band. You started called all elite just a shout out to me and the end of you do AJ. This new Pam wrestle kingdom car. Gonna get the card up did. Did you talk to anybody had gum? Let's have that discussion off air. Don't give me shit, dude. Oh, man whenever I put in the word wrestle. Let me save this website. Now, it's gone. Takes you to Bill Alley's face a different one, Matt longs page, wrestle tapes dot net. Russell tapes Bill. I'll EMA still be sellin tapes. Right. No DVD's. I don't think there's any. He doesn't have a market anymore. It's been. Yeah. But he's got the the uncensored original stuff. I don't even some of them. I don't remember. How you how even came upon that law? Don't even have a fucking clue. How I found him was. Yeah. But anyway, so I don't know. I don't remember what the website was was probably fucking put in Bill Ali DVD's. Nothing comes up GO cities or some. I think Jack up students website still comes up. Ron epstein. He would go by Jack zoo such a cactus, Jack, van, oh, tapes, tapes tapes, and DVD's tapes, apes you physical media the DS. I love it. Yeah. Check. I'm at McCarthy's podcast Fridays justifying my movie collection. What was I gonna put in wrestle kingdom? Thirteen kingdom thirteen it has with Mattie earner. Here we go. Rich all. Most violent players, which is Maccabi and Yano Antigua Chee. Yes. Versus Eugene Agata, Jeff Cobb and David Finley. Yeah. Which one of those is you Nagata who's filling in for elegant who cert- think? Oh, right. So that's one match on the pre show. Yeah. Well, this part of the gauntlet. This is part of the okay? So it's like the other teams are the boys from chaos Goto, Chucky and Trent. Suzuki goon, which is super easy. Lance Archer and Davey boy. Smith junior and the elites hangman paid you Jiro Takahashi and mardi Scarrott. So that ever get addressed on the air that that you are aware of about Takahashi being in the bullet club or out of the bowl club. I'm sure they must have is there a bullet club. I think there is. But it's the God damn, it's it's all the Tongan. So aren't they the the killing elite squad or the killing the bullet the firing club or something firing squad? The firing firing squad the killer elite is daybreak in Archer, right? Yeah. I I don't know Manslu convoluted. It's a little convoluted. Now, isn't it? Oh, well, one of my favorite things is at some point tomorrow. They'll they'll probably put up the video of them. Putting the ring up. Oh, right. Why footage of them like isn't that bad? It's awesome kids. If you're not aware, you can watch the live stream of them just putting together the wrestle kingdom the ring ring stage. That's just the whole they have just have a a webcam going in the dome. All right. So that's the what's going on with mardi mardi mardi stone ring of honor. So yeah, the one guy who is his deal must not be up. Yeah. But that was the weird thing to at the end of all in I mart. Everybody was in the ring. And they're like, where's Marty? Yeah. He's got his villain enterprises. Now with Brody PC. Oh and himself. They've already got a match announced. I love. That's that's a hot trio. Terrible name. I don't like the name. No. And I also don't let me see out. But I'm wishing them. All well. Yeah. Well, whatever. Bucci versus well Asprey for the never open weight championship. Please nobody die. When when we'll Osprey he's on the top rope. If you haven't seen this clip, I mean, watch the whole match. But I mean, if you haven't seen this clip, you know, first of all climb out from underneath the rock that you've been living under and say, Dwayne stop sitting on me. Yeah. Koto bucci. Well, we'll Aspreys on the top rope. Quota Bucci leaps up. There gives them a super hurricane Rana from the top. Rope will Asprey flips in the air several times lands on his damn feet. And then the camera work. I mean, this is this is one of those things of if Kerman. Good. God almighty man that Manny a week to down in Miami. Just everywhere I went kirwin and mean, gene, just at the bar slamming a bat. Let's just buds just throwing down some red wine. Everyone of every I mean, I I went down rabbit hole this morning of watching meaning cannot even put in interviews. Yeah. Into youtube. I put a meaning bloopers 'cause it's all him laughing. Breaking the Dave Schultz thing with fucking Wendi Richter. Mr. wonderful all that ship sank crazy shit. But I mean, the the ship. That's like when he starts addressing people behind the camera. It is it's like, it's kirwin. It's Kevin Don, whoever there is that one clip of them in the control center, and he just turns any pats guy in the back of goes, Kevin my boy, you're going to be running this whole thing some. Dates fucking Kevin done. That's crazy. Yeah. But at any rate, those two just fucking whacking them wack back sauce. I can't I can't even magin the the drinking. They did back in the day. Lower and all low anywhere him. Lord. Almighty in heaven loaded mighty in heaven. Fuck it. I he told that sets cigarette out put that cigarette out well summer, slam eighty nine when the backdrop falls, according to Jean. He's like that was a pre-tape and whoever was running the tapes was like, oh, this is it and played that one instead of the when they actually did he said Vince was flipping out on headset. Content cutter form transit say something. And then it goes to jesse's like did you hear that mouth on me, gene, Oakland? I don't believe that he expect that from me, gene. Cut Amaru and El desperado from Suzuki goon verses republi three K versus listen, govern ablaze, Dion Bucci, and. Shingo Takagi the Kagi to God using go Shingo shipping. Maybe flying all replace on that one. How the fuck. I mean, you need fucking six guys in there to even try to compete after a Bucci and will Osprey. The opening match, dude. That's crazy. I know that's absolutely hell guard. Mattie Elba card. She versus exper- for the British heavyweight championship. Every matches for championship. Except for j whiten Okada, that's hilarious. Grudge match grew. Grill is destiny versus sonata and evil versus the young bucks. That'll be a fucking. Barn burner being being Cody versus juice. Yeah. That won't be fun. Just I mean, and we saw that match in San Francisco. Was it's ever since go. No is at the pyramid. Pair cisco. No, San Francisco was Kenyan, Cody I I'm at the juice match that was like fuck all Awo. That was like the fucking was a Kenan. Cody knows Kenyan. I'm getting confused with all in. Yeah. Kenny and Cody in the ladders, right? That was the pyramid. Right. No. That was that was that was the palace that was the cow palace. Get your shit, right? Ashida versus itchy Maury. That's gonna be bonkers. It's gonna be fucking bonkers, dude. Is there any sticking around Kushida might be leaving Japan? They're saying Kushida might go to fucking annex t. Well, so one of those things where you're just like. I guess the money. Sure. Maybe just the the professional goals you what you can do. But it's just like why the fuck would you go there you want to be headed Hideo Itami? I mean my God. It's just it's so funny, and they took it down off the network. I don't think well who knows why? But like that or maybe is that even still up there that whole when they did when they did like annex t is like a reality show. Oh, yeah. And the whole show is building up to Tyler breeze going to WWE proving ground. Oh boy. Oh, boy, you food. Yeah. That food. Yeah. I mean, the fact that and we knew it we knew going in. Of course, we'll corbin's going to be the fucking golden boy because he's so fucking tall. Lars. Is there an update on what's his name and Maury? Gives zero fucks give zero FOX her almo- update on haram. Oh, no. I mean, the last thing that I read or heard was that it doesn't look like he's probably gonna wrestle again. But but I don't know. Yeah. It's fucked up. Jericho versus Naito. And Kenny omega verses Rosie Tallahassee. But do you think Scott at night? Oh, yeah. 'cause Jericho's champ night Owens it back. Right. I would think so Jay white Okada. Well, Okada's another guy who has lost very very sparingly. So if they want to that was when he was champ. But still I think because of that if they wanna keep Jay white role in it's not gonna it's not gonna hurt. Jay white. It might even. I mean, God, this is the Vince McMahon. The that's why I think that that it's like, that's my white probably wins. I think is just he's gonna win. I think Okada is fine J Y needs the win. It might not be, you know. But I mean, it's one of those things where they can you know, like with juice, and Cody this is kind of this juices night to be. Yeah. Coronated as a guy not the guy. But certainly a guy. 'cause she didn't she Morrie. I mean because she could be on his way out could go to the bone soldier. But I mean with Okada Jay white. I could almost see in this. This feels like Vince McMahon thing, but I could see Okada winning and then Jay white getting his heat back immediately and beating them down. But I mean, that's that's it feels like McMahon. And that's kind of happened already. That's already and as I'm saying, I realize they did do that. So I think whites going over the tag match, I don't know. Grows Adesina are champions. Maybe they retain they're doing everything they can to keep those strong. Yeah. Stronger, it feels like half this card is leaving after the show. Tomohiro ishii. Yeah. Oh, British told me here, we she doesn't sound like a British. Too short. God. He looked like a thumb. You look like a thumb dangle thumb you'll like TASR task actually kick my has. Have another fish cake. Remember that that chaos thing where they're like on the tour bus with chaos itchy fines like a letter. He wrote in second grade, and it's just about his favorite foods. And he's like, I love fish cakes. I love rice cakes. Thank you rice cakes. Thank you fish case. Toilet clog need help son help now. So very very much help damn American plumbing, very bad. That's unbelievable. New Year's dash is gonna be unbelievable. It's gonna be awesome. Aren't even know how I'm going to be able to handle it twenty nineteen off to a roaring start. Did you have a favorite before we wrap it up the way we always do? Did you have a favorite? Yeah. Did you have a favorite wrestler of last year? I mean, did you have a favorite match. It's my favorite of the year is my favorite this week. It's rotana. She I love the journey were on with the ace. This is something else. I actually, and I think he was my favorite of the year. I'm hard pressed to think back to my favorite match. We saw a lot of fucking great wrestling. We saw so much goddamn places. We went to all in. We went to the cow palace. We went to mania. We went to manual. We went to we saw the fucking rock and roll express wrestle. That's right. I mean my God to mania we went to survivor series. Did we go to summer slam where we at summer slam? I don't think so because that was in New York. Yeah. Where we in New York. No, no. I don't think so. Do we do show? Now, we didn't do New York show this year together. Matt we go Kaga. We were at all in Chicago. We were also we did our show earlier in the area that we went to a W. Yes. Right. That was killer. Good shit star cast with, you know, plenty of PWG's, plenty of bar wrestling's. Some plenty of three dabbled and PC w we we tried our hand PC w maybe going back all tra-. Yeah. Here we go back to new year. Suburban fight. Of course. Yeah. Man. It was a hell of a year. What who is your favorite wrestler of the year of the year? You can say PC. Oh, it's okay. It was not PC. Oh, we went to a couple g CW's. Yes. I mean my God. I mean, Kenny omega is just the man and probably wrestled the greatest match I've ever seen and maybe will ever see with Okada best bout machine. He had an outrageous matches everywhere. My wrestler of the year, though, might be might be Brody king Brody king. I think it's Brody king. He had a fucking ear in no doubt about in year. Dude, we saw out of it. It's it's wild. Yeah. You know, we definitely saw plenty of Brody. And and he has really fucking come along. And now he's it's going to start paying some dividends form it's going to get a bigger stage. Yeah. So your favorite wrestler of today and the year Rochon AT miss, you, gene, mystery everyday my favorite wrestler zero. She done Ashi, my favorite wrestler for this issue is tuna tuna. Okay. Every I I've only seen those two matches at suburban fight. Yeah. And she's fucking. She's a killer. Yeah. I grabbed her afterwards. My way out. I'm like, you're the best. Yes. She great. She's got a lot of the pieces together there. Right. Yeah. Unless the name is just it's just it's how how is that? Like the perfect name to it's just fucking mazer. Yeah. Right on where else is she getting up. Well, I see your sometimes an amoeba. Records there. Yeah. That's awesome. I don't know. Yeah. I don't. I'm not sure what other promotions wrestling for. But hopefully, she should be where. Yeah, that's her and Heather Munroe had at fucking. Suburban fight a couple of shows ago. I really hope and I'm sure it will happen. Maybe this year that you guys finally do get a chance to see the wrestling that we've been talking about to hear us on the commentary. I did not actually go through a table. That was that was that was that was Brodie and Darby they went through the table that we were sitting sitting at we got the hell out of dodge. And then a man Brody through fucking Darby power bomb off the fucking states or at other table. I can table. Yeah. Darby hip Brody with a fucking acid drop with the fucking skateboard. Yeah. Jesus christ. It was was crazy, man. Crazy, man. Crazy. All right working to find you online. At several on Twitter, Vince, tyrel Instagram this Saturday, January fifth. Oh, my ribs in Los Angeles for the Jesse pop album recordings two shows eight and ten oh, my ribs dot com. We watch wrestling podcast big cartel dot com. For the final chance at the farewell to Sibley shirt and on pro wrestling, tease dot com slash we watch wrestling for your last crack at all the shirts for twenty percent off. That's right. And this Friday will be a brand new issue of justifying my movie collection. Brought to you by Matt McCarthy's podcast and follow me on all forms of social media at McCarthy redheads. Georgia some fucking patriot shots. Yes. It was. I figure out when the last time is that we what were the date. Those live shows were like the ninth and tenth, right? No we were in Boston on the ninth. I mean, that's when those shows were I'm trying to go because we didn't do patriots. I'm trying to go back. Oh, rather. Well, well, but those aired last week in the week before. Yeah. I'm just trying to figure out what we shut out on none of those. So I'm trying to go back to where the last shutouts were here. Okay. Got it. Irio got appel how heraldic Todd Bernard. Giant bernard. Great Elijah Rivera white. Guy with a couple of names. I was like a couple of names. Ryan guillen. Yeah. You're Gillan at killing it. Jay teresi. Oh boy. Jay theresa. He's. Never greasy. Eric danton. Oh, Eric Denton? Putting Denton 's their heads Denton their heads. Bless you. Oh, thank you. All contagious pal contagious. I thank you all the patriots on patrons for twenty eight teen. And here's the next one. Oh, thank you for donating. That was a hit podcast.

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DAVID WANTS KIDS

VIEWS with David Dobrik and Jason Nash

39:00 min | 1 year ago

DAVID WANTS KIDS

"What's up guys? We'll talk to views the podcast where it's time to get his bread. Yeah. Right. On his bread this podcast guys ads. We got this week. We only have one ad. I think I don't know. What happened? I know you probably not gonna even enjoy the podcast anymore because there's no ads. Yeah. Maybe don't do it. Maybe don't even listen this one. I'm it's gonna suck. We're gonna we're gonna half ass this one because we're not getting paid as much. We're gonna actually have to come up with some content. David. And I will re directly from the New York Times. President Trump didn't think this would be his final stand music. What's up guys? It's abuse podcast. I'm here. I'm David Dobric. I'm twenty two years old. And I'm accompanied by one of my greatest friends, Jason Nash, he's very old and he's forty five years old, and he has ex prostitute of a girlfriend and. Sorry. What are their names go? Why hadn't barley shit? Charlie. Got one of also sitting right next to me. This isn't like a guest on the podcast, but I'm trying to spice it up today because my boy jazz pack just had a kid fucking brand new dad new dad alert, Josh peck. What's up listeners? What's up? Oh my God. This is so nice actually be talking to people who are listening my podcast assist for me. Private. Yeah. It's a private. How are you did? Wow. Guys. When when when people see Josh they describe him they say daddy s fuck now. Now, you are truly daddy as fuck you have become the daddy. I'm I'm a father. Jason, you know about it. Right. Boehner right when I walk in. And it looked at you guys taking care of something else. Besides himself one of us one of us. Now Jason, you know, we're we're fucked up. You're not take care of you. That's true. That's true. Kind of all of us. Okay. So so when congrats on the baby, thank you. So theory mean Jean Oakland just died in your baby was born coincidence. I think not or who's gene Oakland. He was this great wrestling announcer for the WWE at eight talk like this. I think your baby has a little mean. Jean Oakland reincarnation in him on the podcast. I know end Bob, Einstein all my old people on the podcast. Kidding dead ever. By Thomas Jefferson. Yeah. Harry troop me. Okay. So you're baby. Yeah. Max, Milo Dobric pack Dilbert pack out of the Dobrica in there. Then the we gave him the middle name of his godfather. How is it? It's it's awesome. It's everything people say, I can't believe it. I can't believe I'm that guy unit. Pull them out yourself. No, no, you cut off here. I'm new to this. Because they hire someone hope you, right? You'll post me towns, grab it right? Did you give seeking someone to pull it out? Okay. So you did cut off the umbilical cord, I cut the umbilical cord, and how is how is the house that? I can't imagine cutting something part of human with scissors. It's a strong court is it. Yes, it's incredibly, Sean. You don't hurt the baby by cutting down. I'm asking the most basic shop Josh headlines to ten do it in a fruit ninja video. A big sword. Yeah. You cut it. And it's amazing. How like when you're cutting through like power cord for like an intend to sixty four. But it's amazing. It's like their lifeforce its connection to their mom. And so when you look at that thing that is reinforced is it still connected to your wife at the time. You're cutting it. No, they cut it. I separate the baby. So they cut it on their end. So now the baby's loose. Now, the baby just has an extra like Leon it, basically, they they're kind of just doing it for you. Okay. And that's that's that's an American tradition is it's not we're what I I still have my house the court q. Source of his greatness. No, I think I think I don't think dads do it in other countries. So so I have no idea about anything. Well in other countries facts here. No. I mean, Russia they've never done. Wow. In a Stony a- poll say it's in Europe and other countries. They don't do circumcision. Yes. And so for me having a boy and being a Jew, of course, circumspection it was like a given, of course. But it's so funny because the next mornings do that yourself. I didn't I handled it with the OT win my incisors. But what's funny is? So the baby was born Saturday night. And then Sunday morning. They're like, okay, we're gonna take him to get circumcise. And it's amazing because in that moment own the only in my head was his fucking Barrick. Beric? This is crazy. It's complete mutilation. Did you have the Moyle come and do it? Now, the doctor I didn't go that hard body religious Jewish thing the moral. Why it was done? We had a Moyle come to the house. Yeah. Eight days after. Yeah. 'cause smelly like rabbi showed up and all the coal cuts and then cut his dick off. Yeah. Well, I mean, look, I figure jus just like ceremonies because it's an excuse to eat, sir. So we I'm sure there was a beautiful spread bagels cream cheese and foreskin. How how is what does it? What does this feel like, I know? I I'm putting this in my block tomorrow. We talk about it. But how does the whole how does it feel like being a dad like what is this? What how is this love different than other type of it's heaven. Yeah. Tevin you said earlier. What was really interesting? You said it's like it's not like learn love. It's like almost like instinct show like what did you? What did you say? Yeah. It's like it's like something. That's always been inside of you. And then someone just turned it on. Yeah. As opposed to like. Having a like fall in love with someone. And and then you get that huge rush of it. And then that goes away, then you have to reconcile why you love them. I see I feel like I didn't feel that at all. I think there's something wrong with me. Well, to me like, you know, few months, you said your baby was gross when it came out. I mean, I'll babies r gross when they come out. I mean, they're covered in blood and piss or whatever. But yeah, I didn't feel that right away. I interesting, and that's common. You hear that from a lot of debt take. So they don't feel it. Right. But I do relate with what you said about it being like, yeah. It's just like how you love your mom the same way the second. I would I would see my kid. I would hundred percent fucking faint a hundred percent faint. Yeah. I have no idea what I would do with those types of emotions I've pretty emotional when it comes to like weird stuff like that. And no idea what I would see like the person that's going to be a part of my life for the rest of my life. You fucking freaked me out you cried when Jason gave Tricia Hamilton tickets. Your emotional little Cup. But no, yeah. I'm definitely excited for when I have a kid of my own hopefully soon, but I talked about this before because it's funny as a man, right? You grow up, and when you're young, and you're kind of like sleeping around and meeting people everyone in your life, who cares about you sort of makes it very clear like do not get someone pregnant because it'll ruin your life. Right. Like, you get the wrong person pregnant, you're not really in love with and it's bad. And then you find the right person you marry them. And then everyone's like, get her pregnant pregnant how the kid and like I feel truly fulfilled. My duties now is a human on this is what's so crazy. Yeah. I was I was telling Josh like I feel like if I was to have a kid it would almost feel like a weight off my shoulders rather than other task it almost feel like it almost feel like fuck. I don't. At least maybe for the moment. 'cause I don't I don't know how it'd be realized. But I'd be like, oh, I don't have to work like this vlag, or whatever my work is currently like that's not as important as this human is like, that's what would feel really cool to me. Like finally like feeling something for someone that like other than myself. Do you know what I mean? That'd be really interesting. Did you connect any of it like with your dad or anything like that? Did you have any mixed feelings only? I thought it was weirdly kids make that it was a boy. And right like writing the wrongs of my. Yes. Yes. So you you wanted a girl I wanted to. Yeah. I wanted a girl to with me. Yeah. Yeah. He threw fucking fit. When I was born. Yeah. Why does my baby girl have penis? Clinch on my baby girl. We're gonna do that for the block. No, no, he didn't throw fit. But how how did you feel like you're still I always think about this? Baby gender reveal videos. I always I always the match because I think it's always so funny because whether it's a blur girl you have to be excited. Right. So like when you first saw that it was a boy where you like damn it. But yeah. I think my reticence with having to boy to is like I'm not the one that teach them how to play catch really like, no, I'll do it. But like, I'm just not super boyish where why cannot throw a football or basketball. It doesn't matter. But he can play the sacks. But yes, so there's certain things I just don't have that like natural boy manly thing. But it's it's yeah. It's joy in. What was cool was that? We didn't know, you know, till the moment what it was going to be. And so I'm there with my wife behind the curtain coaching her on. And then the doctor pulls the baby out and says, okay, Josh stand up, and I stand up, and she's like what is it? And I look and I see this Bill cord, which I think is the dick for a second. I'm stoked then I'm like damn it. It's not clear that and I just see it, and I'm like two boy and everyone in the operating room was like Harare. Now. Let's get back to this is like when we were in Vegas and it landed on red same thing. Same thing. We totally know childbirth is like not the same thing. I'm not even maybe I don't know is your is your kid going to be an actor. Oh god. I hope not really what are you in a perfect world. If you can like assign him a job right now. I know it's fucking crazy. But. What would you want him to do? That's what field of work. I don't know. I mean entertainer or a regular civilian who works at trader. Joe's and gets moved up, or is a businessman accountant trader Joe's, I heard they have great benefits. Yes. They're sick. Hawaiian shirts. Yes. I mean, I guess most parents want their key to be book. I've realized we want our kids to be be professions that have a high barrier. Eventually, right. So like, no one dabbles in piloting or being a doctor like no one's a in weekend. Lawyer like because it takes so much work. And thus you can be that and then make money. So that's why you wanted to be a doctor lawyer because you know, that if they've put in that ten years, no matter what they're gonna find a job and probably make over one hundred grand a year. So Dr YouTubers what I'm hearing from you. Yes. Absolutely. Very I feel like Kellyanne Ryan asking this question. But are there any other third little? Fucking six. Can we see the little brother sister, perhaps? How much fun once? I expect anything. Tell us about how you made the baby. I was thinking about that too. Right. Because like there's no requirement for having having a baby and yet like or becoming apparent and yet making them is so fun. So so dangerous. Right. There's you spend all your life practicing. You gotta make sure that the moment is right like practicing fun. But you remember the second impregnated your wife. Wasn't like oh that was the one. Does it feel different? No the thought was tied. Because that is probably how it ended, but you made a new life, but I broke through. Yeah. Yeah. You you may love to your wife, and then went to get a chocolate bar from the fridge little did, you know that you created another life not h hawk bar to. That's that's incredible. I'm really fucking him. Wrapping it up on the Ellen show. I'm really happy for you. Josh. Traffic. No, that's that's fucking guys. Look under your seats. Right now. You're going to get a copy of Josh PEX new book. What do you want to be on those shows like would you die to be on Jimmy Fallon or well? Well, I wanna I wanna try. Yeah. Yeah. I know I d- how it'd be that situation. You'd be great. I don't know. I don't know that at all. Yeah. That's like a different type like nervousness that I have not experienced yet. Now, you David thing like the questions, which is what like you just like in the middle of things. Yeah. Like, I don't know. I feel it'd be easier to be on the other end of it. And interview people I really like interviewing people who's the first person you'd have on the pot. If you could have anyone. It'd be LIZA like a full on blown get like full-blown guest. Yeah. It'd be lies because I told that should be the first guest. We haven't done like a full on guest yet that saves for the entire podcast and we've gotten close, but I make sure that they leave before the podcast is over. So it doesn't count as a guest. Well, thanks for having me. Only three more minutes. Wait, what what what else is new in your life? Yeah. I mean fuck. He's got an interesting projects coming up. What about you? Jay, what's new in your life? Fucking hate myself. Do you are you? Yeah. Out over that yet a my life fucking shambles. Tell me that's what I'm saying. How he's doing. So. Well, so well. Everyone pays I logged that he talks about paying taxes. Like, he's the only person plan that doesn't everyone pays their taxes. Everyone gets taken out. I saw I saw Jack lag opening YouTube channel the other day. And I lost it. I said today was well, that's it. It's over. It's over for guys. Like me, there's the let me talk about that. Jack black started channel, and it was a vertical video that he shot on his iphone. And it was like, I actually I don't know. I could be wrong. But it was it was like a low quality video whereas Jack black a making a YouTube channel. It's a minute long. He got a million subscribers in a day. And then the next his next upload was him. It was literally vertical video shot on his iphone saying thank you guys for millions of it was thirty seconds long. And when he posted that video he was already a two million subscribers, but it was like this. Thank you guys for two million. Dick did there here. Kidding same. You know, the truth. Josh you're threatened by him to. That's nothing. Does he have a kid? Actually, it's three. To write tests. But as, you know, rightly let's talk about that, no matter what it's kind of like a stand up comedian comes off a massive show. But hasn't done stand up in a while, they'll give you the first five minutes. But if you're not funny after that one hundred percent in Jack neck, it's funny. Always larry. Really funny, but like Will Smith, you know, not on the trending page every day. You have it. How? Yeah. How will jackpot hole up on YouTube? What do you think? I've no idea. I I don't know enough about Jack black, but I'm sure he'll I'm sure kill it. My my point was like, okay. So yes, like keep up with the videos every day, right? Or or he doesn't whatever I was saying no like Judd appetite will like produces videos. That's what I think's going to happen. Maybe also you can have Martin Scorsese producing you two videos. But like what does that mean? You know, what I mean like you can have Daniel Day-Lewis at all of your YouTube videos. But that doesn't mean that it's a good video like YouTube is in is in like, it's not making its on making a movie like it's people wanna see like lower quality stuff with like it's like a weird mix like they don't wanna see a movie on YouTube. They wanna see the perfect balance of like shit, and like enough like it's like, it's like a weird like you can't you can't put a fucking movie on you. Don't give a fuck. They wanna see your personal life. But they also want to see it like on crack, I think which is I think it's a very tough place to find low fidelity, high-concept, whatever that means sure that was said to me in a meeting once. I watched the movie Bumblebee the other day, the what? Those movies are made for people like you. Fuck you, you, you know, I love Steinfeld and one of the one of one of the the quotes or whatever like the, quote, it was I don't know if they made the caught up or whatever. But I thought it was really cute. It was the darkest nights produce the brightest stars. Yeah. I love and you show uncouth you are. Michael a rich man at interesting story at the. But he like owns the franchise. I understand thing. Having me at the grocery store yesterday. I love going to the fruit guy. I always ask the fruit guy. What what's good, you know? And then I house like walking in there. And I walked up to the fruit guide, I go. Hey, how's the water melon like that? And he was African American. Oh, we had a moment. Yeah. That sounds tough. That's tough. Racist. Just went like he just went like he didn't even goes being racist. He's just like. He took a second. He's like it's not not very good right now. He's like it's winter as. Okay. I see some rate. There was a long pause. When you said that because I was trying to decipher what you're exactly saying. That's why it was awkward, but no, I totally see what you're saying. So it was like the watermelon. Okay. Okay. I see I get it. So it seemed like you're being racist. But you're generally just asking on the one amounts that was racist. What was racist was after he answered when you said, okay, cool. Find me Coltrane. With that culture is it African American jazz musicians. Waning him fucking world bulb. Creates like. Who are you gonna use big words? Fact man, fucking Dicks. I gotta I gotta make sure to keep a budget younger people on the podcast with me. All you. Why? How we have. Oh, yeah. Well, yeah, we have been wanting talking about how many times do you poop once once you. So you poop every day. Yeah. Yeah. Tricia, saying Trish shows as Jason's girlfriend. She poops often I want to say like maybe once a week or once a couple of weeks. Dima poops once every two weeks Dima looks malnourished. Anyway. Yes. But is it? This is your body. Just do that poop every day. It's just from bad. It's bad diet. Living, but Tricia eats eats. Yeah. He's horribly. She's a Mook bang everyday. She's chicken tenders every day. Right. She would think that you would have to or maybe just lying. She's a girl. So she just like, I don't at all. But maybe she fucking. She maybe I bet you Tricia takes nasty shits. She has to there's no way. There's no way you can eat them any tenders. Yeah. I'm gonna I'm gonna put a secret camera toilet, and I'm gonna send it to livestream footage. No. But Josh thinks joining us. I think that's my cue. Tricia, she knows. He has plug your podcasts. Oh, curious podcast. It's my podcast with Josh peck. That's me. The it's amazing guests on there. It's one of my favorite podcast. I have yet to listen to. And. Yeah. Palsson comparison to this. But welcome to my life. Girl was guys. Thank you for having me by you've got real tax questions. So turbo tax live has real tax professionals who can answer them for you. They've CPA's in EA's who are on demand ready to give you advice answer questions as you go their tax pros get to know you. So they could offer per slice of judges and find all the deductions you deserve. Whether you're stuck on a specific question or need guidance working to your return? They're tax experts can give you the confidence. Censure? Your return is done. Right. They got hire someone that can read. Turbo. Tax live with CPA's NEA's on demand. Cd tales at turbo tax dot com. It you know, what sucks is like if there's like younger because into this probably are they don't understand what taxes are explained to them. Yeah. I mean it just fucking inches. Just awful. It's basically like, okay. It's it's like this. It's like since we're on newborn babies. It's like you have a newborn baby. You just got it this year, you're sleeping. It's a beautiful calm night. Someone breaks the window of your house sneaks in and chops off your babies leg. And it takes it away and goes sorry. We need this. That's fucking tax. It's horrible. And there's nothing you can do about it because it's the fucking law and the best way to describe taxes. If you had a lemonade stand and you worked really hard, and you built the store chopped it together. And then you're stupid brother took all of the money. Yeah. For no fucking reason. But I mean, I I guess it makes sense. Because I mean, the reason people pay taxes our roads can be paved even though there's so many potholes on my street. So so the roads can be paved and things can function. Right. I dunno. I tell port now. But fucks, you don't even need to pay taxes, really know. But I thanks turbotax. If you don't know how to tell. For us. Turbo tax. It's pretty pretty simple to do. I wanna talk about this on the topic of pregnancy. You're pregnant yourself, aren't you? No, not that. But f- gained a little inter wait that's out of necessity. But yesterday what I wanted to ask. But what I wanted to ask is like water breaking how does that work because your water breaks? When you when you're when you're when you become pregnant, right or like, sorry when when the baby's due a women's water breaks. What does that mean is that like a little bit of a drop of water literally? Yes. I I don't think it happened to my ex wife, but I guess water Ken fall from your vagina. And that's what it is. Yeah. Like peeing or is it like is it the water that's holding the baby inside it's like chamber. Yeah. It's just like the baby's coming out. So whatever liquid is in the chamber is coming out to chat, your water, breaking is chamber, the proper term. I don't think. So look it up later. So I just make that up it's chamber school one hundred percent good. Dave. Thank you. I like chamber, and then also what I wanted to ask because I was trying to Josh about this baby stuff. For awhile is baby. Switching thing would used to be thing. Like in hospitals. So many questions about baby. Sometimes that's has happened. They give people the wrong, baby. And then my Uber. The other day. There was two Korean guys named Kim. And I got the wrong one, and I went to mirror Dory. Instead from the airport, actually. Two guys named Kim. No, ding, the guys it was ding two guys named ding. And it was a Toyota Sienna, and my mom, and Charlie and white and we got in fucking and I walked in. And he goes he goes. Jason. He goes. Yeah. Yeah. Jason. But then it turns out it was John. Oh, my fuck. Yeah. The wrong direction took marina Delray. But then you found out halfway there had to pay him cash. Take me, take me home. Really? Yeah. Was your other Uber funds? Like, did you check your app, and your they went all the way they want to your house and on my right? I tried calling them and the guy was like fucking pay for this shit. And then you got home. And then you realize John was at your house having dinner because he dropped off there. I thought that I thought home and John was having sex attrition. Hooper off your accident. Man. You saw how was left to the whole thing. Really? Yeah. Tricia went she likes Tricia memorial. I tried making this joke yesterday, but it were able to work here after Akron. She must have been aqua woman. You see it doesn't work anywhere. I guess she must have been woman. Yeah. You know what? I mean. Like Jason momoa got wet it that does work does. Because I said yesterday, I didn't get to full car of people, and I was driving. So I really couldn't see everyone's reactions, but it was fucking silent, man. So I imagine that no one was two ecstatic about it. You're gonna see a bunch of tweets ago doesn't work day. I wasn't chief. I saw it advocates pulse pounding action. But I read it wrong. I thought it just said ending act hunting, which is pretty pretty on par. Perfect for Tricia, exactly what you wanted to go. See how how's your New Year's? Oh, great. We went to see a Queen cover band with white and Charlie. Oh, yeah. It was rice. You know? We're still miss. She. I he called me two weeks before. And she's like fucking Jason wants to see a Queen cover band with his kids and me for fucking New Year's can at least convince them to go somewhere else. I hate that. She goes to you like, the godfather, I called you. And I'm like Jason come with us to this ranch. And you just decide you wanna come. Yeah. I didn't wanna I don't wanna leave them. I left last year for new years. I'm not gonna a lot of New Year's with them their moms in fucking Portugal three weeks. Wow. And I have a nanny. And I just wanna leave him. We were we were our new. We went to a ranch looking really nice ranch. Buddies family that owns like, a huge company, and it's a it's a seven hundred square foot ranch seven seven hundred acres. Sorry. Sorry. You told me before you left you listen. I know I know I know and we looked it up. I know this is this is this is some other information someone else gave us, and we looked it up in the car, and we're like that's the size of California. That's actually I actually bought myself because I accepted it exactly. I was sold when we were driving up to the ranch. Someone goes to huge ranch. It's seven hundred thousand acres, and then I go what only fuck that's. Shoe try to go. Jason you come check out this ranch. It's seven hundred thousand acres Jason goes. No, I go. Yeah. He goes. Wow. Okay. On our way up we were like Google or like Ilya was like are you L E works plumbing? So he knows how much distances, and I'm like seven hundred thousand acres, and he goes, are you fucking crack his he'd own a fucking country. So then we will. I think it was like a thousand miles or something it was seven hundred acres seven hundred acres, which is still still Riddick. Dick, you like ridiculous hundred football fields. Yes, it's insane. And it was great. It was at a very beautiful house there, and I felt really bad because. The clock hit midnight or whatever and we did confetti cannons. And we just bloom all over the house, and I went to the security at the house the second they were blown and they're like guys you need to find brooms right now. And you need to clean up all of this. All this a lot of experience because I'm like, 'i confetti cannons at my house, and it stained the fucking floor, and I had three thousand dollars which is like nothing to them. Three thousand dollar however, much pay to get cleaned up. And they're like, oh my God picture much for telling us, and then they like a little bit. And they weren't they weren't cleaning it up all the way and I could already see staining. And then I went him like a right before I left I found on they're all on a smoke break outside. Like it was like one am I was leaving. And I'm like guys, listen, I hate to be. But like I went out of my way. Like I walked like maybe one hundred yards just to find these guys as hey guys breath because I was running because I had to go to my car's guys should really should. Should really clean up the confetti, and they go it's fine. We got it. Thank you. Appreciate it. It's totally cool. You're on a seven hundred square foot ranch. I think we can afford to clean up these fucking petty. Thanks now, they were they're really sweet about it. I thought you're on math or something. They probably thought it was. And then they signed me driving away they stopped my car and they hold on. Are you to drive and I go, yes, I am. I just really need those fucking confetti bad experience in my house guys on the next segment of this podcast. It's called Joes TD when you podcast. It's it's an amazing push the podcast where we give Joe who's our editor for these podcasts. Twenty five seconds on the pod. And he can say whatever he wants their one. Are we ready go? What's up weenies? How's it going today? We we have some special guests today on our podcast, and my special guest today is my friend, Josh peck, Shosh. Are welcome. Josh, thanks or signing the about coming today. Amy ties. So I had this topic. I wanna talk about you recently had a baby I did has she no word of mouth. Okay. Fully crap. Dude. Crazy, john? Thank you. Joe fucking aced. It you really do waste of how he's just sits in it. Like, it's a regular. He has forty minutes, and you know, the way so much time. He really my favorite part about it is like he knows he has twenty five seconds. And if you have some on the podcast like Josh hill like Asher question, and then he'll sit there and like really really act like he actually wants to have a full on conversation with Josh like it's about to take off. Yeah. Like, josh. Go ahead. Take it away. Like rather rather than like rather than promoting his stuff? I don't know whatever it's ways he won't be on. He won't be on next week. That's for sure we're gonna we're gonna try to avoid that. Okay. Yeah. I mean, we want him on week. Did you see that? There's this girl. I think in Kansas. She just she just graduated high school. She's she just graduated high school at the same time. She's graduating Harvard has our as she must have taken courses at Harvard while she was in high school. I mean, that's obviously that's like online courses or maybe or maybe she, oh, you know, what maybe she was doing. Maybe she was in Harvard, and she was doing online courses for high school. And that is you get into Harvard without a high school degree. Okay. Okay. Oh, sorry. It's not it's boys and his Braxton moral. He's sixteen and he may look like at teenager. But he's graduated for both his Kansas high school and Harvard University. He he can't even legally drink you, obviously, he took online course at Harvard extension school and studied at campus during the summer, and then he went to school regularly at his Kansas high school. That's fucking crazy. Much too soon. Yeah, he's gonna he's going to give the high school, commencement speech. And then a few weeks later Hilton graduation ceremony Harvard University holy shit. Fucking imagine being that guy's parents. How proud you must be or in debt that's fucking in same good for him congrat- Braxton have you ever done anything? Like that made me totally question. My entire life. Have you ever done any notable like that? Everybody's just like holy fucking stereo once in eighth grade, you wanna stereo what'd you have to do. Just sell some chocolates. It was pretty awesome. How much chocolates? I just bought them while they're all gone. I'm on the wall. My highschool. That's my proudest accomplishment for tennis on the hall of fame. It's for for tennis. It's nice. It's really good recall like seven athletes year shape when you played tennis. They know you were cut amazing. I was shoe per I mean, yes, I was thin. But that's just because I was younger, but I mean like from season to season know in the fall where you don't and I played sports. I played ties every day or did some kind of activity. I was running biking, and I was I was never a never had like six pack apps. I was never like and I played sports. I was very athletic. I could I could easily compete with anybody in most sports like basketball, whatever it was like was could always run fast. Whatever sprint do all that. Like, I was totally fine with it. But I was never in like super shape. Doing those always thought realize my legs, but other than that like upper body never really had any. You've got your license was did you get a car? No fuck. No. So what did you do? I mean, I celebrated getting my license because I wasn't able. To get my license because I took driver's, Ed. And as I was taking driver's, Ed. My parents were like, you actually can't get a license because you don't you don't have a social security number, right? Because it's so like I had to fill in zero zero zero zero as my social security number when we started driver's Ed because I just didn't have one. But no, I didn't get a car. Fuck. No. No, no. I couldn't get contacts told you this my parents wouldn't context because they said it was expensive and finally to hundred dollars a year, which is with my insurance pretty a pretty fucking good deal. We tried to have you on the podcast. We're in Chicago. Oh my God. Yeah. Guys. We almost had my mom on the podcast is Chicago. And she's decided she didn't want to do it. She likes choked up on for a while. We did we did eight or ten minutes. But we just didn't really it was us hawking shoe. She was talking because she was like choked up. So we were just talking about mom, which didn't want to be on it which had a couple of things. She said like four things. She said she said stuff like you're making fun of me. I don't wanna do this. I think she got on. She got on and chasing did her accent. Which I think is great. And they think is great too. But she's like, I don't want to be here. I go want to be on it. If you're making fun of me, which we're not making fun of her. No, we're just I don't know. It's it's literally what we we make fun of the Tony ins accents, or whatever. I know the same thing. But yeah, I mean, guys, listen, we don't have much time on the podcast know, why did you say that that's about it? You said it like your fucking happy. No. Someone's puck and ask you out on a date. No sorry. But it was New Year's Hopi is we're all safe. Hope you guys have a good year. New Year's resolutions. Go shower more. Wow. Stop spending so much money. That's tough getting shape. I have you showered. How many times have you shower this year? It's the third once one. Okay. So that's already more. I would say with once in three days I did too. I did two out of three days. I think I missed the day. But you're gonna you're gonna take the week off. I have to. Yeah. Water minutes at drought. Just one caveat. I had a baby for days ago. I've showered. Yeah. That's fucking insane. Hey, you're gonna film your baby or no, no. I am. That's not his very that. Is me. No. I asked him. He said he's gonna like he's like slow into it a little bit cool. That's going to be tough. It's gonna be tough for me to break the baby already as a channel. I remember surprise. That's fucking funny. Money is just sucks. It's the worst. Why? Because I I worked really hard this year. And I thought I was doing good. And then I just fucked like seriously money, it's crazy. Spend too much. I would say you bought your kids for pets month. And then you're living in ten thousand dollar place a month apartment, and you, you know, your girlfriends with the Queen of Zimbabwe who who needs to go on vacation says she says a lot. I mean, you're in like she says a lot on me you're living a completely different lifestyle. And you were when you were in an apartment to tell you what I lived in in Bellingham, and I had the little enjoy enjoy later sleep my room. I wasn't any happier. I mean being in a big, I'm not saying a bigger house. Makes you happier. I know you're not. But I'm saying, yeah. No. Yeah. No, definitely make you fucking happy at all. They should downsize. How can mean all your money? I don't know if that makes any sense, but by me for here. I almost bought you a Ferrari last year. That's how fucking nuts. Imagine. If I why didn't you because I'd be great now. And I wouldn't I wouldn't have any money. I'd be happy. I'd get your, bro. You know, if you bought me a Ferrari, I'd literally at focus a lot of money. I wanna just that. You buy me for Ari. I wouldn't let you do that. That's kinda shitty. There's not if you didn't do that. What if I because I thought familiar expecting you? I was like, well, maybe there's a way I can pay like one fifty and then he'll I'll buy it. And maybe he'll give me one hundred one hundred percent give you know. What if you bought a fuck it for our dog? Yeah. What you would do is. I you'd be like I surprise me. And you pretend that you bought it for me. And then you turn the cameras off. And then you'd have the series conversation with me where you go. I can't afford. And then I go I figured, and then I have now write you a check. And then we go on and do our thing crashed it on the one. Hey, listen. I ask you something. My tax guy says I cannot write off my mother's car that I bought her. I know is that true. Yeah. Fucked you on that you fucking asshole. You don't write off your Secours? No, you don't know. What are you talking about? You know, how I write it off how with my heart. Your shit. I know actually, I have no idea what you're talking about. I know you can't write off the cars the coast. You can't write the cars off, David. I've no idea. That's what he told me today. He's like it's a gift. He's like, but it's in the video, and I sat there and arguing the flick an hour. I was like I was like, okay. Listen to me, if I threw a forty thousand dollar party for my video. I can write that off. He's yes, you can. But so if I get someone a car for the videos like, yes, but it's a gift a gift must outweigh. I'll are you about my tax guy to how can a party not a gift party is a gift Tricia threw me because it's not a property. It's not like something not properties. It's not possession that you keep said absolutely one hundred per se, she'll radio I think so too. I and on that note user about tax, and we'll see you guys later. This has been a views podcast. My name is Jeff follows on Twitter Instagram. Go check out Josh's podcast, go check out. Joe? He's cool and foul Instagram trying to ten million by guys.

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Chris Jericho | SAS CLASSIC

The Steve Austin Show - Unleashed!

1:36:20 hr | 7 months ago

Chris Jericho | SAS CLASSIC

"Thank you for listening to this. Podcast one production now available on spotify apple podcasts. Podcast one dot com in anywhere else. You PODCASTS Steve. Ultra short broad. You free today by our friends at Bet. Online marches arrived. Rowley weeks away from the big tournament head over to Bet Online DOT AG and opened an account today to get in on bet on line. Two hundred thousand dollar bracket madness starting on March fifteenth get into mixed bet online dot. Ag and use the Promo Code. Podcast one for your fifty percent. Welcome bonus bet online your own line sportsbook experts and exclusive partner podcast once sports net podcast one presents. The Steve Austin Show Classics Chris. Jericho I guess man I'm not going to ramble on much horse shit today. I it a long time. This happens to be quite a bit when I see the boys that I hadn't seen before I forget. Just how big. Everyone is from the attitude era compared to me Because now on the show everybody's kind of the same size but as soon as I saw. It's been Gosh. I don't know five six years and it's like Oh my God like Austin's huge I mean you look rape your tall like even Hardee's saw Matt and Jeff. The for seven years. I couldn't believe Ali were but it's great to see you and I never knew that I hadn't done your show. I thought I'd done it before. Dude actually there was a little bit of a beef. Because this ain't nobody knows why you didn't even know. I Call Center text messages. Because I know you're GonNa you tell them you're going to be a rock meals for as like amen come about if you don't mind and podcasts and you blew me off or you had other things to do you remember that instantly and that was never blow you off. But I'm just saying yeah. They didn't have God. Dang US kind of perturbed. Because like I do this. I who shows guy does go return the favor you got me pretty much got me hooked up with the GIG. I mean you're the one who's the contact that took me there so like I said I thought for sure that I'd done it and when you said I still like Oh man. This is a debt that has to be repaid. I know this is one of those things where I'm so bad about holding a grudge. God named Kris K. Fame you on the show I got he would just go. Don't even remember that that I would love to have you come to set. I'm not sure what happened. Maybe we were busy filming or something. The boys get halftime is interesting. I don't know how you are with us and we'll probably talk about wrestling and a minute. It's all do when when you get around to boys sometimes just want to catch up. Just talk about you and Chris over to house about thirty minutes drinking coffee talking about labs. I can't believe you gotTa Civil Avenue Black Lab just like I. I walked through the door the gate that you have and I saw the front door. GotTa be kidding me. I saw a silver lab and a black lab and I saw your wife and I was like. Oh Yeah we just got them. Two months ago at the same time so at blew me away. It's the exact same pairing except for my black labs boy and yours is a girl so we got that going for us but as a couple of times and you're busy or whatever happened and vice versa. So but then it's also kind of like you know you do really well at spreading yourself around and you're traveling on So and you get your rock and roll connects get you wrestled connections. You've got those out there connections. I didn't realize talking to the boys spend a lot of time talking to these. Some of these cats. I don't think every lester in. La is going to come over here. Three Seventeen gimmickry breeze with me nor do. I really wanted to shoot the breeze with Hill. But sometimes it's like sometimes it's like he you know it's cool to ask somebody if you. WanNa be on a show of it when you keep asking a good guest or you enjoy talking to almost like an imposing my friendship on Mars that. Hold UP THE CRUCIFIX BECAUSE DRACULA'S Air Right. Well it's one of those you like. He's like absolutely. I don't WanNa do it? I was just talking this morning to some people and I was telling them I become that guy that because I'm so podcast centric. I could meet like for example I did a show for. Tbs called drop the MIC. It's a losing battle rap show and the method man from Tang clan. And he's a jerk. Oh what a Guy. A big fan so automatically. Oh Yeah you should do my podcasts. In three seconds of meeting this guy and I think a lot of people would be very honored by that and other people like you said like calm down dude like I just met you. It's like media girl for the first one going. Let's make out. I like to kiss so I think I just get excited at the concept of talking to these different people that what am I ever GonNa see method man again and it turned into a week later we had a show in Long Island. I went to Staten Island. That did the show at his house. We had a blast. It was a great conversation but always thinking that when I'm sure it does turn some people off and it has but I think for the most part people enjoy talking to someone that they either respect. There's mutual respect. Obviously Steve Austin asks somebody from this generation to be on the show. They're gonNA bend over backwards to do it. Because it's don't go Steve Austin so I think it's it's honor for some people do it and maybe a little bit of a of a hardship but if they really like you they'll do it. Yeah it is a funny thing because every time. Wwe Or most of the times when ww comes through town. You know some of the guys or girls give me a heads up coming through and Bailey was down one time. She's working with across coach us in a man. You want to go home and do the show and you did 'cause I really like her and they were coming back through town. I say GonNa combined do the show. And so they did and she had to go do a meet and greet and so then hung out with Sasha. We did a show and I got to talk for about thirty minutes kind of conversation but it was like you know she said hey man it was good and then she said maybe like next time we can just hang out and I was like oh great. Just drink a beer or whatever. Just shoot the breeze. Because you know things change when you hit the record button. Chris you can get some honest come to Jesus interviews and but when you hit the button just like some of the stuff. We talked about over my house some stuff. You don't want everybody to know you don't want everybody to know our podcast. I gave me a chance to give me an excuse for example to get together with my friends this perfect example right now to do the podcast but at work too. I remember the first time I had triple H on. I've never talked to triple h for an hour and a half before. Never had the chance. Usually he's doing one thing. I'm doing another thing. Maybe you'd putting together a match but to actually sit down and talk for an hour and a half. It was a lot of fun and I like that about the people that I know in bands it behind the backseat wrestling but even like we grew up for example of fans of the Fonts Henry Worker. I got invited to do a comic con and I don't do them all opposite. Always say who else is on the show. There's somebody else on the show that I want to interview and you can give me an interview with that. Guy. I'll come to the COMECON and Henry winklers honest I want Henry. Winklers guy was able to work it out. I got a chance to sit down with anywhere. Clerked for forty five minutes like my childhood hero and Paul Stanley those two guys like right up there for me and Hulk Hogan and they get to sit down with these guys actually talk to them. One on one undivided attention. Nobody's coming in to do this. This that to me is the best part of podcasting. I would almost do it for free for those reasons. And that's when you when people like that but you know when people from our business like if they're currently in the system and employed you're kind of a free agent But someone that's yes. So they're they're in the trenches. Ya as big show. I talked to five guests on the snow. Copepod he'll straight up. I'd been book where the way with it. You don't care. Yeah and but you just can't do that but you can't say that if you're Bailey for example I mean you you gotTa Watch you say because they're watching you. You know what I mean at all times. Even if you don't think they are why they're listening they'll find out the boss will find out often. Wonder it's not even wonder I'm sure it happens where he probably gets a report every day. Here's the social media report. Here's the twitter reporters the podcast report. This person said this or that. I said that I don't know but I would think like whenever we Madison Square Garden back in the day. Do and how shows Vince would always go to the garden? And sometimes we wouldn't be there. I'm sure he was always there. I'm sure there was times. He was hiding up in the rafters. Like the Phantom of the opera watching the show to see how the guys worked when they didn't think he was there and I even said that to him once I said the same. They used the Phantom of the opera of course. He gave me the Vince. Laughing didn't answer and walked away while odd Phantom of the opera. And that's it. There's no answer either way on that. I don't know for sure but I'm sure they have people who watch dogs because you get some of these guys that go on and they talk really bad shit on twitter which is the worst place you can do it thinking that no one in the cup. He's going to read it and going to let it go way. See what happens to you buddy you know. It was interesting when I'd been trying to get Gallison podcasts. And a couple of months ago. Man Gallows got stranded and just because they love never location and so he got stranded. Blew the podcast off. And I've been really wanting to our. They made it and as I said you guys want to sit down a couple of beers. Whatever on of beer but what are you guys drink because you might not like my bitterness and well you'll bud light so the case of Bud Light I had a case of Miller lite own backup as another flavor school happy rocky. Romero was here gallows Edison and I'd never heard podcast. They were like a riot. I guess you guys a little. It was invented the term. It's been around forever talking-shop yeah so it away like start off with some ABC's yet. But I knew just going to be laughing so those guys are absolutely awesome. And so that that was the case where unleashed show which is unfiltered uncensored. Anything goes like okay. It's cool for me to be his profane or whatever I wanna be but I don't know that because you guys are in the PG system what your language parameters are of course one thing after another dude. This whole table took a picture on my twitter account. It was a case and a half broken rocky. Romero was drinking my beer with me and those guys were just drinking reading novels like it was water. Katie bar the door. That wasn't I said to both those guys because I just about them when they came to be I think in two thousand fifteen or sixteen wherever it was. I said you know I thought for a long time. That was the biggest piece of shit ever met in this business. And then I met you guys and now I know I'm not the biggest piece of shit the Biz but those two guys. We had so much fun because they go back to the days of like when we were talking about how it was for us where everybody was super crazy and a lot of it was dangerous. Because there's a lot of drugs. These guys are not drugs drinking but they have so much fun and that to me. It was so much fun to be around them and be on the road with them. It reignited my love for being on tour as well meeting a couple of kindred spirits like those guys and domino that same stuff like you know like someone passing the torch or even it's cool to see someone else is out there as I was the you know we would do talking-shop which there was the worst podcasts. In Japan. They told me about the first time I had them on backstage. San Diego Calcium and I so we should talk and shop presented by talk is Jericho. Look you guys. Do what? Just pick a night when we're going to be somewhere together and we'll just start drinking and see what happens okay. We go to Honolulu was going to be me. Gals Nadison. We got there earlier. We'RE GONNA GO WALK DOWN THE BEACH. Check out some places seven hours later. We're still at the same Damn Beach Bar Johnny Ace's passed out because of us. We're still awake. Let's go do a podcast bringing AJ styles. Whose UNCLE Allen's those guys Ak Malibu Al because that's all they drink says Malibu rum and we had this frigging podcast. That was the most ridiculous. Like you're almost like what the hell's going on. There's nothing going on. No one's listening to anybody else. Everyone's interrupting everybody else to securities knocking on the door so we bring the microphone them. Is this pockets. Did like a million downloads. People loved it and then we so we did talk shop Australia. Talking-shop China talking-shop Nurnberg Germany. And that one was the worst. We were so drunk. You can't even listen to it. But gals plays this character called ripped layoff compliment all areas. You'll love this though. So he plays this character called Rep. Delay like the. I'm Alita door and pay the do things because all they do is voices sour boy. Hell Yeah Man. Mountain man like Gordon can knock so he's doing this routinely so we always have a rotating fourth and rotating fourth at this point is Primo Cologne. Carlos's son so we call Carlos Cologne in Puerto Rico. In Eddie's leg hip hop guy is delay. Wants to get booked in Carlson's like who is he. It's a pretty good kid. You gals gets on the phone with Carlos Cologne. The legendary does not alter the Turkey and on the talk page. I'd like to do the court the Court Jews and Carlos close like who is this guy. He talks forbidden if I go. So what do you think POPs Z? Booked and Carl's like Jerry. Whatever actually got TA booked in Puerto Rico withdrawals Cologne but like you said these guys. They are perfect. Example like Dean Milenko Brat Armstrong of these guys. That are so funny backstage but haven't found a way to transfer that onscreen yet. How do you do that is because you just mentioned name? Lonzo is just one of the fast guys on a verbal conversation. Just pop in you so funny. Brad Armstrong collide up any dress supremely funny but also highly respected as a worker at any additions. Yeah and D- Malingco Thousand and of course your one thousand and one. We're GonNa talk about the now. I'm down to about two hundred thirty five at this point in China Scott a lot. Okay and why is that? I think some guys like you mentioned sort of you mentioned when the red light is on. I think a lot of guys weren't comfortable playing a character that wasn't like Dean was trained by his dad. Very serious very much exchanging holds call. That's thing I don't think he ever felt comfortable letting go. And Being Funny Dean in the ring. 'cause I don't think it was. It was not taught that way and Brad I think was the same. Some guys. Just don't have like you said when when you turn the recorder on it's a different conversation when the recorder is off but I mean there were still spectacular and Ringo but it almost kind of gives me a a parallel to another business or living passionate. You're on rock and roll music so you see. Let's take for instance a band that would be technically extremely good but didn't have Iran that they should have had. We'll get like dream theater into my mind emigrate band. Yeah Great Mad when you agree should add bigger. Well here's one thing I've learned over the years because excuse me I was a huge dream theater fan from ninety four to two thousand four like one of my top three bands but then he grow older. And you realize it's like the the the best band of all time is AC DC. I learned that from being an abandoned from watching bad. It's going to tell you rush. Well the thing is Russia's great. Jim Theaters Great. But it's a style of music based around playing based around. You know it's like wrestling. It's like going to the Lucci Lebron match how many flips and flops and flies can you do until just starts running together. Now if you're into that sort of thing dream theater's the best of the best. It's incredible what they can do and nobody can touch them. But there's something Why didn't they get a bigger run because it's a very limited style of music? I can't play dream theater for my wife. She just want to hear ten minutes on your Thirty Minute Guitar Solo whereas ACDC Three Minute Punch by its sex. Stephen Talk to say it's music is music and get off to baton. Doom that appeals to everybody. Interesting Yeah I just think that when you're talking about Russia's a little more accessible because they had a little more of a pop element dream theater won't do that and that's like dream theater. They've had a huge run for for who they are as a band. Had they done a couple more fly by night type songs. For example you know closer to the heart maybe type of thing that rush did they might have been a little bit bigger but the time when they try that the fans revolt. They didn't WanNa hear dream theater do that whereas rush had forty years of having all these different styles so they could go play. You know less strong data you know. Fourteen minutes dramatically. You go nuts and they play close to the heart. You go nuts as well Tom Sawyer again. But it because everything is so subjective thing. It's whatever the crowd is an unison or from the biggest piece of the Pie What what people are looking for. Well Yeah Yeah I mean. Are you looking for technical excellence? Are you looking for or technical? Sound or you're looking for entertainment or someone just grabs you by the throat. Got Are like for instance Stone Cold Steve. Adding real grabbed too much gold and finally came up with the right gimmick. I don't know Dallat was good enough mechanic timing but here's another van and I don't know if you've ever shipped off of music because I want to talk to you about your letter match with Shawn Michaels and I want to talk about Alpha Omega some other things but we're you ever into at all Y. N. T. from San Francisco. Never really and I'll tell you the reason why because I know a lot of people like Eddie Trunk are merged girl in Europe washes now Zack's personal assistant. She will be y t for life and she's thirty years old for me. When I got into real Deepa music wine t was going through their glam phase of sticking leather summertime. Girls contagious so this came across is like Bon. Jovi light to me. I never got into the mean streak. Black Tiger stats late seventies early and missed missed. Ufo missed Scorpions with John. Roth and if you go to a Scorpion show like I went with Scotty. End Before Kirk Hammett. Those guys worship at the feet of seventy scorpions. I'm like I don't get it. I like eight hundred and that's when I came in with that so I never got into the wine tea because of that Because I just thought they were Kinda Bon Jovi light and never bothered to delve back further into the cattle Dan Kennedy with the vocal talent and guitar talent double threat. Well yeah and it's still well respected to this day. I mean he's the last remaining original member in the band they still earn still do good business especially in Europe but it just one of those bands that missed for me. I never know what I think about that. I was thinking okay. It wasn't unique. Sound not everybody is not like like like you said to your point. Acdc AC DC. Do you have any metal at all? It's really hard not to like that. You have any rock and roll and all you know. Why don't you just might not float your boat? Well I think it was gimmick. Why and T- hard for me to you. Know I got it on a level agrees from the Gimmick. I and that's what we're talking about. The Gimmick of Wine T. Obviously it was yesterday and today when they started change it to wind. T doesn't make sense. I don't know what it means. I see a picture of the band and this is a big deal understand this. They weren't all that pot for lack of better term. There's nothing really sexy about. Why not you know because we were growing up like obviously. I'm not attracted to Bon Jovi but you look at the guy who ran this guy picks up checks. I want to be like that guy. David Lee Roth like that guy would back. He's taking any sexy and he's funny. You never got that with the lions you guys and you just from the music lean towards towards as far as music goes but along those lines like when you're in DC there's four. Gaza weren't that good looking. But you didn't expect them to be good luck. 'cause PLAN IS BAD ASS kick ass rock skinner back. I mean yeah maybe one good looking dude. I mean this is a knock just talking straight up but if it was a bad ass bass at different type of vibe once again you're talking about a southern rock band. They're not like wine ts in the gene pool. Competing with Bon. Jovi Motley crue. You know whoever else hot at the time. Leonard Skinner Southern Rock. They'd should look like they're from Florida from the by you know. Acdc had the biggest gimmick of all time angus young and then throwing Brian Johnson with the hat. That's two gimmicks for the price of one so you can use. There's something about them you can latch onto a and I've found that over the years that you always especially a band like warranty once again. It's hard to be a great front man when you have a guitar. Paul Stanley's the best added James Hatfields right behind him. But you gotta be a huge personality to be a front man and play guitar at same time and that's another thing that hurts that band. Okay then okay and duly noted what about Front Man Without Instrument? That's from an Yup. Oh my gosh have to go with David. Lee Roth Freddie Mercury. I'll throw Bruce Dickinson in their from iron maiden. Those are kind of the three that they had pretty late. Smarter and air because I was Gonna absolutely got to be one or two absolutely daily Roth. His wasn't that great but he was just he fit. The part was stuff that he got from. You got his routine from the guy that was a southern southern roads. Jim Dandy Jim Dan give it. Yeah yeah he kind of the same but roth was almost like a stone owner coli fast times in that. His rap wasn't great but just the way he delivered it. Well one of things about that guy was when he was doing interviews he was so out there and so Jesus. Christ I mean he's articulate and his own way but highly intelligent he can ramble and you can get out there. And he's full of himself. God Dang is he interested. And that's one. I know you didn't like the episode but I loved your episode with Roth because he was just being roth and I know that you were trying to ask certain questions but like I enjoy because here I got Steve Austin talking to David Lee Roth. Two very iconic characters in their different worlds colliding. I thought it was great but you know what as you know from doing. All your podcast. As long as you've been doing over four hundred episodes it's so much better when you're talking to someone in person from within this way back in the day when this isn't a glass studio where you could see. Everybody like this room was glass. You could see everybody else working in Hebron right. There's no atmospheres vibe. He I think he's in New York City at the time I'm in L. A. It's hard you got all these notes I mean I don't even know my producer. I was green. It was one of those men. It's hard to do the over the phone as a frontman. I I'm not as an all time. Great no but someone that I have to put areas. Ns Berry interesting interesting cult. Yeah Yeah I mean and you have to get into. I love the cult. As a matter of fact one of my favorite albums of all time has called electric came in nineteen eighty seven and it was like at the right time of year was like is to get him out in. May Not whole summer we spent at the beach. That was kind of the soundtrack to the summer. I never saw the cult as being a great live band. At times I saw the massacre. It was cool but he he wanted to be more. Jim Morrison Wannabe mysterious. You know great singer great list of tunes but as a band never grabbed me as being super exciting and I get that but for for me not being a Guy. I think I meant to. I don't know ten concerts in my in. My first concert was acts in heaven before your time and they were opened for Motley crue. And I know we're GONNA do a podcast together. We're GONNA talk about music but when I was growing up my dad was in a country and Western band played lead guitar. And he's saying so. I sing even then so I was going to be lead guitars. But I didn't apply myself and he's my Stepdad. Technically genetics tried to base snow. They weren't by drum kit so that it happened. Anyway I was really into the rock and roll stuff and `ole country. My brother Kevin ten months than me wanted. This is when Monaco first came out with shout at the devil and he goes amen checks out and I was like I went into the crew because I I never heard of them before the concert obviously and I looked at a cover us in Man. Pretty good looking chicks and mainly kind of way. I don't guys I remember looking at Vince. Neal on that cover and going. How can that chickpea so flat chested? And how can they let her be on the front cover with no shirt on because he looked like the hottest chick but his his his chest. Saying there's boots you know I mean going. You know one of my favorite bands of all time. Put Him up there and you know they had a great run right but anyway the shift gears and make a segue into a little bit of wrestling. You just come off a high profile Magic Kenny Omega also. I watched it match but by the same token I had to get back and watch some your stuff from wwe. I here's the deal you've been doing podcasts forever. I've been doing a little bit over then forever. Five hundred episodes man. I don't want to jump on competing research your ass Halloween on each other stuff. Twenty years what did you roll into? W W ninety eight or nine ninety nine ninety nine. I met you a couple times before that on the plane. One time and you gave me the all time. Greatest Line of all time was. I don't know great line. I I was walking on. The plane was one of those rare moments when you would see. Www WCW on the same plane and you walk by me said. Hey I didn't even I just awesome. Because there's a guy in the plane I said really goes yeah. Give me a kiss and I'll tell you what you they'll tell you who it is. You know you said who is this. Kiss me. I'll take you can't blow the punch line. That's remember like Steve Austin just told me a joke and then I saw again at Bryant Tillman's memorial show in Norwood Ohio. Yeah I was working with Ben Wah and you were there to give your support as well so that was about ninety eight. So that's technically when I when I met you may remember seeing you coming up when I show up and ww managed good-looking kin long tights. Long hair pulled back in little gimmick ponant count like talented coming filled enriched through the TV screen. Like excuse pretty good and then you came to New York. I guess when you made your debut when you interrupted Iraq's Promo ship was I have an inability or taking my ball and went home at that time. No you're there okay. You're there dude. Was that was an awesome debut. Whose idea was a Hawaii to J. thing laboraties with anybody know. Are you going to gene? Simmons municipal everything was you. How how did it go down? Rather invented air steel toe. What happened was I was at the time for people ask. What does Whitey Jamie go ask your parents so at the time frame? Nineteen ninety nine as everyone. Who's already knows there was supposed to be a giant computer bug called the Y2k Virus. Those going to shut down the entire infrastructure computers. The whole you know. Don't fly a plane going to drop out of the sky. I remember I had five thousand dollars. Cash and a box of this protein drinks at the time with Tang and live off the five thousand dollars cash and I had my liquid meals with me so I could survive when the when the riots happened and nothing happened right and so everyone was. Why K Y two K Y two K and I just thought why to Jay. I'm going to the WB OBVIOUSLY JERICHO FOR J. I thought that's a great name for my finish. I'll call it the white. Cj or White Jay problem or whatever it may be and I was at the mail the mail the mail house the post office I used to have a self addressed stamped envelope to sign pictures to call on. Wwl At least trying to start a rapport with the fans. Early days of the Internet. Send me your self addressed. I'll send you the thing back so I was waiting in line at the post office and it said like you know a hundred and twenty two days seven hours four minutes and three seconds until the new millennium. I thought wow counting down what a could yeah countdown to the new millennium. That would be a cool way for someone to come into the WB. Wait that'd be cool for me to come into the W we so I came up with the idea of Millennia man with the countdown. Vinci's contributions to it were that the countdown. My idea was it would end at the beginning of RAW. I think it was August. Ninth Nineteen Ninety. Nine Vinci's idea was it would end right in the middle of the rocks. Promo which classic vents you know. Come in as high as you can possibly get. His other idea was is. What's your finish called and I said well it's it's a Boston crab and it's called Y. Two J parliament you never finished your finishes and white. Tj Your Y TJ and. That was his Monica for the first year or two. I'm sure you've got this to it was never Chris Chris. Jericho was always watching Jay. How are you good to see you watch because that was his creation even though it was my idea he took it in? That's all I'm shows the same with stone cold. I'm sure he called you. Stone cold all the time I remember. We always had to reference you as stone cold. Steve Austin I could say four or five times but stonewalls Vaslav Mattamy. I'm ordering Stone Calls Iverson and I'm going to be local because that's the name right. Not Steve Own cultivars and Steve Almost humanizes me and we didn't want to humanize you. You are now a branch. Don't why do Jay and that's kind of where it all started. And I think you'll appreciate this. I'm sure ever told you this before. But when I came into the company I was a really popular baby face eventually. Start as a heel. Turn baby face if you look at all the beach towels and seven. Eleven cops at the time. There's always three guys on it me and rock and I started realizing that like I'm the George Harrison of the attitude era. I'm super popular. I'm super over but I'm in a band with the two most popular over characters possibly ever. It doesn't matter what George does. He's Never GonNa Talk Lennon McCartney right no matter what I do as a baby face on never top rock and Austin so what can I do? I'll turn hill. And that's where that whole started pitching to turn e on. You and on rock to start working with you guys because I knew I could never get past. You guys are higher than you guys. You guys need someone to work with. That can hold the microphone and go toe to toe with you. Because it wasn't easy to go toe to toe with. You wasn't easy to go toe with rock. You guys were so good and had the crowd and the palm of your hand. You needed a good. He'll to be able to work all abject could go to go on the Mike with you as well and that's kind of where I think we had some really good time without of all your times in the business Jesus crash. How long have you been entering now? Twenty Seven Years Twenty Years October Ninth Tober Second Nineteen Ninety was my debut. Hilo baby to give you the wishy washy answer. Honestly he'll I love. I've been on world champ. Six Times all of them as a he'll never wanted as a baby face. I think a lot of that is because the George Harrison thing but to me is I think it's a very rare character in the business that can portray a he'll obey face at the same level you look at like flair when flair was could never really play a baby face as good as he could heal same same with Hulk Hogan he was okay. He'll but as a baby face talk also all right so to do both is a very hard skill and I take great pride in the fact that I can do both. I prefer. He'll but I always say it's a lot easier to make somebody hate you than it is to make them like you but once they start hating you. It's hard to keep them painting you. It's like the greatest heels of all time in movies. Darth vader. Terminator Hannibal Lector. The joker. All those characters Freddy Krueger as the movies went on. They became the baby faces. I used to watch Freddy Kruger. Kill the kids. He wasn't scary anyways. Cool that's what happens. Terminator two Arnold the baby face at this point because he's so good as a heel. You start liking him. That's the true key of wrestling. If you CAN BE A. He'll stay. He'll it's very hard to do. What was your relationship like with vents? When you first came into companies are dumb thing and how that more of your communication process with him. Because I'd been with bench. Several Times told the story many times I apologize to my listeners. For making me tell it again are making you listen to it again. Sit in a jeep. One time was going to do a GIG. Throw a belt off a bridge or do something shenanigans at the time Bench Grove Jeep Grand Cherokee. I'm riding shotgun. He's driving where at a gate is locked with the chain. No one's unlocked change so we can go do the GIG and so we're just sitting there with a thumbs up. Our ash is weird. You know because we don't know what you other man. I just turned from ring match from the stone. I'm starting to momentum and he's personally and we're in his car to do this Gig just out of blue looks over at me dude out of blue and he says you know Steve as a promoter you never wanNA talent know what they're worth like. What are you saying I just? I didn't say nothing. I sit there and like it was weird generation. Promoted want smartest guys planet earth. About two minutes later he fires up. The jeep runs through the gate. We go to it straight up shoot blasts the chain off. I saw that that right there forever opened my eyes and in my brain to okay. Here's what's up. Yeah and then one time we're in the garden of getting you know from working. Msg We're about to go do Monday night. Raw Barclay Center in Manhattan Center. I don't know where I'm going to be whatever's going to happen to happens but an MSG short entrance is that blue curtain like you said when ventures there. He's watched Gardner maybe he's prowl around. We don't always air one time. We was watching those matches down watching everybody go. The ring is probably working to Maine and a sold out house. Steve Blackman goes the ring. Gets a hell of a pretty good pop. It was on his way. You Know Steve. Blackman had really good worker really good physique believable believable solid and but he's never hit that next level and boy got a pretty good pop and looked over. Vincent's Damn Pretty. Good Bob and medical you out. I really hope he can get over. there it is again. You know Vince done just wave little lawn. Very hit you with that. Pixie does doesn't somebody WHO's over. So how would you do this? Don't just come with somebody would take. Roman reigns for instance. I mean are like his point at a guy. Say you're over at does not happen? I get so going back to men. I don't go back in history storrow for the old man and I want to peel back meant to go through. Wcw and your territory days because one of the things. I've always respected about you. I caught you an EC- W I didn't see you when US Mexico or Canada are all those other places you got over. Not W you got over. And W W you got over. W He's got over where you well. That's of course but Vince. But that's one of the reasons why I was able to get over in wwe. Because I'm not sure if you went through and I think you did obviously with the ringmaster when we came from this other territory other company doesn't matter what you've done anywhere else in the world until you go through the WB curtain. Vince can see you. He doesn't care. If you're Steve Austin Triple H Mick Foley Chris Benoit's Aj styles or Chris Jericho I would say probably isn't watch any wrestling and whatsoever. He might hear some names. I don't think he cares your job when you get to the. Wb is basically. Start from scratch. And Show Vincent you can do and if you can get over with him you'll get a chance to get over not the Pixie dust. But you need to get over with Vince. I to get the chance to really get over if that makes sense so with Vince. Actually Wise Man Bald Guy with a goatee sitting across from right. Now you you said to me you know you really have to establish relationship with Vince. It's so important. You told me that and I've told a lot of guys that now. You have to get over this. Vince is very intimidating and he's very scary like waiting outside his office. You feel like you have to wait to go to the principal even to this day. I'm nervous to go in his office but you have to establish that relationship with them so you can break that wall down of Vista and the boss and Chris Jericho the employee and then two guys who are working together to create a good product. And then if you're really lucky like Vince. I considered to be a friend of mine now I asked him to go to. Acdc with me last year. When they're at the garden with axl rose and then he ended up tearing his squad and he you know he never said he would go but I invited him like what if he wants to go. Like what am I going to do like I do? I stand in the seats with Vince and like Air Guitar with them. Like what are we going to do if he shows up like these? It's going to be good enough for him. Do I have to get a box now? Like what do I do like? How is he as a guy? But there's a couple times over the years and it took me a long time to really get that relationship. I would say that it took me until two thousand eight eight years of working events until I lived up to the potential that I think you saw me but I never really delivered it to that level then I created that kind of Hypocrites suit and tie very slow talking character. Worked WITH SEAN. We had this amazing chemistry. Obviously Sean as you know the best baby face a he'll could ever work with and we were perfect match. Great baby-faced Great. He'll great chemistry in the ring and out and we had this whole big long seven-month angle and that's what I think Vince. Sambas legit top Guy. That you could put the put the rocket to I was world champion four times during that run and ever since then we gained closer and closer with from that. What did you learn I was I was watching a God? Dang is it Bruce Hart We're still givers is still alive. Bruce might have been bruce interview talking to a dude from northwest resident. Hannibal now you start it over right. How long were you net Calgary area a longtime man like I trained there with the Hart brothers? Even there was no heartburn at Camp thank God Lance Storm was there because I met from day one day. One it's like place strains of automobiles when John Candy when the train breaks down he's got the big giant trunk and he's trying to carry it across the plane and then Steve picks up one side. That's exactly what happened. I had this big trunk and we're living in a hotel called the Willie the Willington an ocracoke saw Berta. Which is about thirty minutes outside. Calgary and I had to climb the stairs to get to my room and had this big trunk with all my worldly possessions and last year for a and. He's last Vince Chris. You'd hand Scher picked up one side of my trunk and that's how I got it upstairs so day. One I showed up was was him with. How long were you there? I lived in Calgary till about ninety four so I was working on and off but also I had. I've been working full time since ninety two Mexico's fulltime than it was Japan got full-time smokey mountain. But I still lived in college until German as well right I did. I went there and ninety three for as you're making those rounds in talk a little bit about the communicates process in Mexico. Because I'm not imagining you speak Spanish. I learned Okay Smart Guy. Yeah what about your early years taught you how to get over. Where does I mean because do your twenty seven years in now when I talk about getting over hours like to talk about with people who got over because I still think it's a loss stars? Yeah I always like to hear a anybody else vocalise or to finish up the point that we were making before I got over and WB was very hard. When I first came in because there's a lot of there was there was a target on my back. They're still wrestling. War was real. W W W knows a fear stress. It was came in. I mean how you felt but I mean I saw. I saw talent admitted. There's got a dog and even work. I said I'm on my game. Yeah Yeah but I also came in as a WCW Guy. You know By myself I didn't come in with Dina and and Eddie and Chris and those guys I didn't come in. Big Show came in by himself as well. But he's a giant. It's hard to you know I'm five foot. Eleven two hundred twenty pounds blonde blonde hair. There's other guys in the company that have long blonde hair that probably didn't like that aspect of it and also too. I came in with not a bad attitude but I came in with some attitudes. I wasn't afraid there wasn't an attitude or chip on your show on at it turned into a big ship at the time. I just came in as a heel so I had no problem. I didn't know that you weren't supposed to talk shit about the undertaker in a promo or talk. Bad About Steve Austin and promos heels due to baby faces right but I learned very quickly. That's not what heels do when they first come in. I had no idea nobody ever taught me anything about the WCW. Then even tell me to bump and feed a comeback. I worked for three years and had no idea what that meant as crazy as it sounds right now. Long Story Short. I eventually got over because I'd been over everywhere I've ever been to for one reason and one reason only and you had to connect with the fans if you can connect with an audience where he makes them love your hate you. You'll always have job and you'll sell tickets to become valuable if you can connect with the audience. They'll be excited to see what you do and the other thing. I didn't debit abuse. I knew okay. I can't I can't win with like you know. Hunter in deacs and Iraqi was always cool. And you were in and out and you're on your own but you're always cool me but what I did was. I worked really hard always but I knew if I can get over with the bullpen with the mid level. Guys that would bleed up to the top Bob Holly Those type of guys. Jbl Louis Bradshaw. At the time you know working with those that were Kishi having great matches night after night with those guys which is where I was programmed. The word gets around. You know this guy is not an asshole. You guys are talking shit about him and he's really good. He's a good guy that kind of helped to alleviate some of the tension that was there so that's basically how I got over. I believed in myself and I connected with the audience. And how how do you establish or or communicate to an individual at one of the boys or Gals less than a? How do you connect with the people? I don't know I that's all it's almost like seeing like how do you sing? Paul Stanley or how do you? How do you get over? Like Steve. Austin how do you throw a football like you know anything about Brett Farve or whoever's a quarterback I don't really know I think it's something that you have inside of us that charisma fearlessness? You can't be afraid to awesome you can relate to you. You can't be afraid to be stone. Cold Steve Austin and put on a little cowboy hat and sing by on a frigging Ukulele out of tune in horrible. Like that. Was You committing the character. I committed to the character every time as a heel as a baby face anything I could do to you know never ever again for example sorting. Wcw when I rip Dave Pens Tuxedo off and the next week. They may go back in there with a Tuxedo. And I said I promise I will never ever just over the top like a God from Sally Field. You like you really like me and it's like I don't like you anymore from that so I'll never ever do it again. And then you see people with signs and Jimmy. Hart taught me he said Jimmy was great. Man I love love. Love Jimmy Hart. But he told me he said you can't make people right signs you can plant them but these weren't planted. You can't force somebody to Rights Austin three sixteen or never ever again with fourteen pieces of cardboard with one e one e one e one. You can't this buddies pick a ever sign. And that's how you know you're starting to connect us like ultimate compliment. It is connecting. Exactly you have to be fearless just like you with with authors. You took a chance. It might have stuck. It might not have some stock something else. Would've and I always laugh because I have so many kind of let's say hits for Catchphrase roundabout way but hit with toll of rock and roll hit with Ross Jericho. But there's been some misses. I remember that I thought razzle dazzle. That's going to be huge. That'll be a little razzle dazzle razzle-dazzle and then just died a death and the other one was was Get it got it good and I would say get it and the crowd would say God it and then I would say good. It just tried it. A couple times socked stunk You had one do you remember. I'll tell you one that you had what was what was it. A little stink on it. I'M GONNA put a little stink on it to the phase of your thing. He would say every time before what? I'm a little stink on it and I'm a little stink on it and just kind of easy man when you when you when you throw out a third it humbles you thinking feelers like got Dama. I can't let them see me. See me sweat but inside. I know this shit work. You gotta try try. And that's the thing like you gotta be fearless little saying like the only failure is not trying but a lot of people in the business are afraid to try and also this point up aren't given the option to try and that to me like when I saw the highlight reel. My initial idea was learning from one of the greatest. Remember what you would call him. Backstage interviews gene. Oakland's who could lead you through a backstage promo even if you didn't know what you were doing right that's royal do promos. They used to go sit in the box. Wwe Box where you do. Localize promos were coming to Jacksonville. We're coming to the Odessa. Whatever and I would just sit there because you're sitting around all day. There's nothing to do. I'll go watch guys do promos and I watch aren't Addison Ric flair and you know the moutier glacier whoever's they are getting promos and then maybe one day the last me and one day longer didn't show up because he wanted to go to the gym so we what about that guy is always sit in the car and he wanted to. Promo shirt and I remember. It was for the van De Llerena thinks Kalamazoo Wings Wings calls him. No it's grand rapids of those Michigan cities and added you promise run but Gene Oakland was the guy who was doing the Internet. Lead me through it. And then the next week they gave me two and then they gave me three before. That's how I learned how to Promo no script just on your own instincts and my idea. When I started the Hirose I wanted to be the Gene Oakland. Have guys out. That didn't get promo time. And let me do an Improv. Pro with see what they got. That of course did not fly with Vince. You wanted to be an actual promise with the top level guys but my idea was a wanted to see what can people do when they're not being scripted and they don't have handcuffs you know. I still think they should do that. This theater every show between main event and raw. There's a ten minute period. Send somebody out there. You got three minutes and you don't tell anybody who who it is during the day used to be like a Everyone's go out there for three minutes and we're supposed to. I don't know and see what they got. A woods would kill it but give somebody else he slater Curt Hawkins or whoever you would see then who can do a promo and who can connect with the audience. You would get it right like that. Hey Man Yona rich your home. Sure you do and a better can be hard work. 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It's just an awkward reaction to the broadcast team. It'd be like Erin Andrews not throwing back to the guys call them the game. What are your thoughts on that? Because I think she I think whether it's a male or female they should throw back to the announce team because I don't think the heat the point or anything goes anywhere because I'm so focused on that weird look to interview has on their face and you can't look at the camera you can't just staring into the distance. I don't get it. Well I mean I don't have to tell you this and it's you know. Pat Patterson said it best. It's like you know it's ice cream shop. And sometimes he likes chocolate and sometimes he likes Vanilla sometimes he likes neither one is ice cream store. It's way Vince wants it. In Vinci's mine. That's how he wants it. So you have to work within those parameters. Do I think it's good? Not necessarily I think the backstage interviewers now could they be and I say this respectfully because they know that just doing the toll could they be more robotic? I loved that. I know it's eighties wrassling. Vince would say but the Gene Oakland and Lee Marshall as well who's passed away since they were great great at it because they would have some energy and like Jean. What are you talking about? You can't talk to me like that Bobby Heenan. Oh my God. Let's and they would throw back Right there's a lack of energy sometimes to the show when you don't let people be themselves like I'm a ham. You're a ham. I will scenery Chew Worse Than William. Shatner if you if you let me but even if you don't the still away to captivate even as that quiet talking heels if I talk quite everyone has to shut up and listen to me Amorous. Sometimes they do promos like that and people probably like we can't hear you and then. I'd go even quieter than you better can listen man and that's like one person captivating a whole arena of people. I find sometimes that guys. Arnold aren't given the opportunity to take that ball and run with it because it's very regimented. The regimentation yard the I just feel like there's a war going to these days because there's nowhere else to go and everybody's just micromanaged degree and there's I'm not indicting. The system Hellemann be apparel on Monday night. Relevant twenty-fifth anniversary but it's just one of those things that just kind of from back in the day. You know when I came in as ringmaster suck ass gimmick right but I had a wife two kids log cabin acres. Should I am going to take all my shit from me. I'll go up. I'd already went to visit Vince twice. A new didn't have anything planned for me to bring me as mechanic so she had. I didn't I never came and then finally after a bus W got learning trip. All Hammond you know I said okay. It's time to go goddamn PAL. We'll we'll bring in another champion. Ted Dibiase you manager. I looked heavy. Yossi right so anyway I came up. I knew that was gonNA work after six months and so that's one whatever started thinking about it and drinking beer whisky. Whatever was watching television. Came up with you know stone cold persona anyway. Came up with it. Came up with it and that was my name and when I went out there and you know I remember Scott Hall came up to me and he goes because all of a sudden it was on the backstage remember they used to have boards versus. He's still do you still do so razor Scott. Season NON-CALL STOW-N-GO Steve Austin. He Goes stone-cold. What's that all about and I was like. I didn't really have a definition of the Gimmick. I sense of where I was going to go what I could do it as an messages to just give it time. I'm telling you work did watch so anyway. I was always went out there. Dude and you know when I guess Roussel was doing book and he was on my show the other day he says you know he. He had created the opportunity for me to go ringside and do some color commentary. I went out there and did it. And that's what I noticed that they were you know they weren't this. We're going live tape shit and talk with BITs amen. Why in my stuff? And he goes well quite frankly stevie pop guys and a truck you know and he wanted to be a hill but so anyway I told him right then and Ariza Dude. I'm six one. Two very ball had goatee six ten seventy gas three hundred three twenty. I'm speaking fast. 'cause everybody's almost so many times. I said if you give him my personality I said I I can. I can compete if you take my personality. I can't compete okay. I've said that story man down to just told you appoint is due back today because they're still WCW there were still East W. Hello and making no money. Making you know a little bit of money one night a week. Work for Paul. So I didn't know what did I lose so every time? I got a chance to go out there. I didn't give a shit. I was going to go out on a limb push. Envelope do whatever took because then Mega Shit right the angle beforehand in Fukuoka a couple of weeks before the press conference that after the show it into the press conference. I didn't care I was like you know I. I'm not a big dude over there. I'm a big guy and I was like bruiser brody and Stan. I WanNa scare these guys like these reporters and shit. They don't deal with that nowadays but there was no rules. I was swearing during the match. I grabbed the camera and took a picture me flipping the bird to the crowd took pictures of it. They put that magazine which I came across this like lunatic. Who WOULD DO ANYTHING? Didn't care ripping reporters books and yelling at them. You know throwing tables and through garbage can full of like cigarette butts in water on one of the reporters from Tokyo. Sports yet covered in lake cigarette but water. But I'm like you know I don't care I'm doing it and everybody's flipping out Jericho. Jericho Jericho jerkers. There's no restrictions and like you said I didn't care that might never come back here. I WANNA have some fun. I want people to know I'm different for any other foreign guy already Japanese guy. I don't give a shit with the rules of Japan are I. Don't care what the we went to press conferences very nice hotel. Don't throw anything off. The table costs. A THOUSAND DOLLARS. Will pay for it. But you're going to sell tickets because of it and it was really what I'm looking for. Gratifying and whatever. There's a word for this freedom after seventeen years of having have stuff approved by Vince or agents. Whatever I'd have to have anything approved anything I wanted. And what a cool feeling that was. As far as the match goes and all the stuff liberating I remember. I don't know if you remember the conversation I told you dude to me. You just look free out there. Yeah I said exactly that. And that's what came across to me. I shouldn't give a shit. He's not being held back and do anything he wants to not. That's just. There's a kind of a misconception. W you get held back. It's not getting certain rules that we have to abide by because that's the corporate company. There's no juice allowed no chair shots and thank goodness for that. I mean I send you that gift a couple months ago. If you just wailing guys with chair shots that you think of how we used to do that and you took them to. That was just part of the business. And the look back at that if so barbaric. It's like we're stabbing each other with like you know macy's or something but certain things you just cannot do in the WB correct and to have the restrictions to do whatever you want. Okay I want to go through table. Let's do it. Let's put up a chair. There's NO D. Q. Match it so I wanted to Eke. You didn't want to bury the referee. Even though everyone else does I wouldn't feel good about that so we had the permission to do it. Must use it and not having to get it. Approved was kind of cool. Yeah feeling but they're being the rule system being in place at that is air now. There were rules back when I was running wild over there right. Yeah but you just push envelope due to whatever the rules. Structure is just because. Here's the thing we when you are. Limited you know physically are from from a standpoint of picking up chairs tables this out of whatever. Dude I mean you seen matches inside the squared circle where no one left the ring and an assemblage. His either goes haywire. Goes off or the Guy. The baby's got so much fire that he'll such a piece of shit that mainstream or whatever he's doing within you know. I'm talking about the days you can get over. I mean it's it's all about Dallas just like someone asked me today you know as a whole different conversation but I said man you got to be a fighter and whether you're a heel or baby you got to be a fighter to get over. I mean the segue out of it but people say Could Stone Cold Steve Austin get over? Today's wwe absolutely Ale. Yikes good absolutely name rule. Same Guy that's something that I know. Batista said something at one point of like it'd be hard to get over him in the PG thirteen environment or something else. Is David Great Guy and I disagree with him because he could get a good workers a good worker and I don't care if his attitude era or pg thirteen or EC W or Lucia labour. If you know what you're doing you can incorporate any style or any rule that needs to be done. It's still over. It's easy if you're good. I I had no problem. Switching from attitude air to PG two zero. Stop seeing son of a bitch stop seeing jackass. You know all that sort of stuff. It wasn't that hard because I know what I'm doing. It's not bad but also delivery absolutely not everything is content everything you ain't got to go out there and recite a rush to get over and by the same token into structure match. You GotTa do a million moves and a bunch of Wurley gigs and flips and shit off the top turnbuckle to get over. You don't know what you're saying. This was just something that I always notice. Don't they told us that much of a story? But I remember in a tag match one time with the undertaker and he was on the Apron side. We were getting heat on whoever get heat on and a couple of false tags and he couldn't get any at one point he just. He jumped on the floor. He grab some water. He ported over his head. He hit the damn steps like at FM. He looked like he was going nuts. And I was like people loved it because who undertaker and why do you have to stand on the Apron Holding? He was like I'm a caged animal get water and and chaos and plunder running side. You knew he wanted this tag. Any everyone else would. Just stand there tag. Tammy he was like I can't stand and more go crazy. Hit the damn thing and you can always ready to go jump up and this undertaker showing like a Brian. Tillman one thousand nine hundred eighty. Nine baby-faced Slavia Mac and I just all. I always remembered that of course tried to. I was never as good at doing. His taker was but just little things like that shows. That is a true professional. He knows what he's doing. And there's no gimmick dead manned anything that is just the guy knows he's connecting with the audience. He's letting people I want this tag and I'm GonNa get this tag and you guys don't get it and you're going to get it and when he got the tag it blew the roof officer you can expect but it was just that little extra little bit. I learned this in Mexico from a guy called Negro Casas who is the best one of the best wrestlers I've ever worked with not Mexico anywhere. They call them the Rick Flair of Mexico. He understands the psychology of where he is. He's not a flipper or flyer. He's just his details. Taught me that the difference between a good worker. A great worker is the little things really. I agree and if you know how to do those little things you will transcend from good to great. But it's amazing how many guys don't know the little things. But that's why I was like I was on youtube the other day and I was just looking over random videos. And it was you mrs so many years ago because Dallas page was still living in Playa Vista and. That's where I used to live with. When I first came out to Los Angeles you guys went through Yoga workout and your Eddie. Guerrero was mean. Eighty yeah rap. Whatever that meeting with him where you. I met him and he was grouchy. Grouchy. But WHO's traffic heading anyway? The Guy was phenomenal but I don't mean to ramble Eddie. Was One of those guys that if you knew anything about wrestling you picked up on the little things he did. If you didn't know anything about wrestling from a technical standpoint just from watching him for some reason it resonated with you at a deeper level because you're seeing a guy who was so detail oriented and a little things meant so much that is even that little thing if the baby faces the same baby faces laying on his back face in that little. Peel out on the dam face. You can't put his heel and Chris cigarette body. How many people do that? There's a couple of ood ain't nobody. Does it like nobody does it? But does it where it looks like. He's putting a cigarette with the stay with a little thing on it. Just but it's a little edie. Edie was really really good at that sort of stuff and you know I was thinking about this the other day man I I. I missed Eddie. I wish she was still around. Cause us such goofball but like just very just a really good guy obviously but he really took everything very personally and you. We talked earlier about back in the day when we were running a little bit nuts. He never really went nuts. He took everything so personally give. The house was down like two hundred people when he was a champion. He would be really legitimately sad. You know if you heard one person bullying and when he was supposed to be baby face. Actually you went through that phase tumor. We had a match up Aso of all places. We tore the house down. And you're pissed off after I said what's wrong. He said there's one guy in the front rows. Give me the finger I'm like do. There's ten thousand people chatting your name but at the time that bothered you you couldn't get over. It Eddie. Was like that too so involved and so into it that anything. That he felt was a slight against him and his abilities would take very very personal. And that's why I don't think I think you eventually would've gotten over it but I don't think the first time he was a champion. They didn't keep it on a long because I don't think he could take it. It's a lot of pressure to be the champion and I think it kind of made him go a little bit crazy because of it you know as soon as little as a new Eddie and I knew him a little bit. Did you ever work with them? Yeah I requested to work with because I'd been hard and just getting caught up and I want to work again. I own a gimmick man. Eddie was a worker worker worker and so requested to work with him and after about a week's worth of shows they pull us apart because they need to work with and who knows on top. Whatever you want on top but I requested work with a guy and has many guises we both know that have gone down. I did not a big Olga. Daddy remember that I remember that you had. It surprised me because remember. You talked about that before. Not being funeral. WanNa get to get to a match with Shawn Michaels. But you mentioned earlier. I was thinking earlier about Brian Film. And what I was thinking about you as far as your freedom in that match against Kenya Omega and Brian it just resonated medicine. Do He's zone. He's really free but also just talking about Eddie Guerrero. It would be great if Brian was still around. And that guy was so far ahead of time. Just from a gimmick standpoint remember back in a day you know when you run with the guy we were tagging and unroadworthy guy for three weeks. You know it's kind of like okay. My go over these two days. I just want to chill out and not hear from anybody manage Brian Comic Kid got a scoop and it was always good to hear from him so he's a guy that I wish it was still around. I guess the point of getting to a lot of guys get lost on the road until a bunch of shit out with the drinking ground. I kinda was drinking grout if what nobody else you know. That's that's kind of what I did. How did you get away or stay away from just the gamut of pills a lot of guys fall into because some of the guys that I've talked to survivors del works. Del Wilkes the Patriot. Guys that are tell men taking forty to sixty know oxycontin percocet or whatever and like I don't understand it. I don't know how you do it. I mean because back in the day dude couple of pots of coffee rather to Vikes. I'm Dutton didn't take any pain bills if I was hurt. I mean when I broke those bones and my back I had a doctor shooting me up with toward all before I went out to every night. My Point Is D. I just didn't go down that road. I didn't get all extended. How did you stay away from it or not? I don't really know the answer that I just know like when I when I grew up you know eighties. I sorta wrestling ninety. This might sound really dumb but whatever at the time it was really still say no to drugs. I was was what was hammered into our heads when I was in Highschool Tanger- say no to drugs. Don't do drugs don't do drugs drugs and some guys that I knew smoked a little weed stuff. I just never was interested. Don't do drugs. I don't WanNa do drugs. Why would I WANNA do drugs? And I just never started with that. I never did any of the pills. Even back in Calgary in Mexico guys would hang with. We'd be doing all the pills. I just didn't didn't. I don't know why I still this day. I've never done cocaine in my life. Never I just never had the desire to for whatever reason Nude on all your year never wanted to shame that you're involved term would never want side wrestling and all the dude again. There was a couple of stops where there would be. No Yeah I went through the United shrooms and that sort of that sort of thing but I just never for whatever reason but I just liked having a drink in the guys that Iran with just like having a drink raven will tell you this too. We used to have this this gang that we call this the drunken four horsemen and it was me Raven Kurt haning and Mongo McMichael. Now I don't know if Mongo and Kurt knew that was the name but it was always the four of US hanging out. We were called. The drunken forest raven called each other and there was never drugs with those guys. It was just drinking. Here's I gargle Jack Hanning. Here's how you Jack Daniels Kidding fool people you you let it dribble out the side of your mouth let some other side side Gargle Jackass. Which will kill you anybody's listening will kill you later. We will get you super drunk and McMichael I remember. He broke his arm one time he drank a bottle. Jack Nasser his broken. This is Arma Damn table. Like what are you doing? Those were the guys that I had fun with so it was never a pill atmosphere an ad for whatever reason and then and then when I got to the point where I didn't have to worry about peer pressure. I think I just made the decision. I'm not going to bother. I'M NOT EVEN NEC. W nobody ever approached me to do it. You know. I don't know it just never kind of came my way. I remember just just to finish off when I did break my arm and smokey mountain wrestling and I came broke earlier in the day. Trying a shooting star press because somebody ULTIMO dragon convinced me. I could do one like I. I had no idea what I was doing. Tried earlier. In the day broke my arm. Went to the hospital. Came back with a big show was the semi main event of the sold. Out thing that had was me and lance against the heavenly bodies Jimmy del Ray doctor. Tom I worked a match with a broken arm. Doctor Tom they were taken. One armed body slammed me. Those guys were so good to do that for me but I remember. They gave me some pills. Whatever the pain pills were for having a broken arm and and take a member. A Brian Lee was really concerned. You came in the all right. Just Gimme pain pills. Yeah here take him so. I had a broken arm and never took pain pills. Who does that a plate in my arm? You can still see the scar to this day just decided I'm not going to do it. I'M NOT GONNA fall down that path. So here you have. I'll tell you what because there's a Lotta Shit going on today. And we met our stops. It was a good time. One last occurred hitting story. The thing was when when W W for WWE or vice versa? Whichever one for some reason you know the car was alleged. Yeah a living legend. Among the boys he was just beloved. Because he's always in a good mood is always up. He was a world class worker yet highly charismatic. A ton of fun if he was having a bad day. I don't think anybody would ever know but when you cross paths with Kurt you had to do a shot of Jack with and Garland. That was the rule. It happened to me twice. I'm walking through an airport. Magma Sunglasses on I'm pretty haggard and Kurt cargo shot with him. That was that was. Yeah Hey before we leave. No wonder do your podcasts. I WANNA leave time for that. That match with Shawn Michaels got match of the year. It was a ladder match was in two thousand eight. What was at Wrestlemania or no though? It was No mercy it was an October of two thousand seizes. Christ I remember. I remember washing it back in. I don't know if I'd taken my ball at home because I wouldn't want a card. Yeah I don't think you're there at the time but Jesus Christ. I watched that match before you came over before scan through your facts but real quick on on a comparison that match. Kenya Mega obviously two. Different things on your list of accomplishments. Well I know you're proud of the fact that you drew money in Japan by rage subscriptions and all that but that drew money too. But I just thought you know the way you know noblest here earlier with bully. Ray I was like okay. I didn't know if you had a grudge. Earn all this is lot of matches so all up until the mega-match and still I don't know but if people asked what your favorite match always say the ladder match Sean others a lot of reasons I think a this is being completely biased but also just saying how I feel it. Kills the Sean Razor Ladder match? It blows it out of the Water. But it wasn't as monumental because that was the first one another reason why love. It is because it was the culmination of a seventh month. Seven month feud that was supposed to go one day started when Batista and Sean had a match and I was the guest referee. And Sean the idea was Sean would hurt his knee. I would wave off the match and then we would find out later on that. Sean was faking. It and I knew he was faking it. But he would claim that he wasn't and that it will lead to a match. We Workshop Win the end. But Sean is so good at his. Original idea was was the recent finish. And then we'd have a match and then Chelsea listens to we can do something with this worked at Wrestlemainia two thousand and three you and rock work that Seattle and we have great chemistry. And he's this is a waste to do this. And just pay it off with one one joe one pay per view and I remember. We've asked Vince. Classic Vince Question. An answer. What do you want for the finish and Vince goes? I don't know I just booked. Shit you guys figure it out all right and then. Sean came idea where you tweaks his knee. I believe him AM I. We started this Big Long Angle. That went through all these shapes and phases and we had the first match was a real technical match. The second one was the mass revista decided there was no more blading because he so hard you go back. He's bleeding everyone after that. Vince says no more blading. That was at the time when he was thinking about done. And then we had. Then we're going to pay it off at Summer Slam Johnson. It's not good enough because we have this great chemistry. Were edging taker. And there was hunter. And somebody we're going to be third. Sean will be third or fourth on the bill at best. I'm looking over. I love his attitude attitude man and then he had the idea. Why Stan going to retire. Because I'd done something right. Drop till holding them into the corner of a desk and he sold that I was all messed up and the thing is is I really started to go a little bit cross eyed people. Think it's because I look at you. See Sean Now. A little bit of a wonky. I people think it's from that angle it it's not bringing in his wife and then he would say everybody. I'm retired but I came down spoilers. Retirement ceremony I go to punch him. He's Zigzag Punches wife in the face for real by the way which is awful but she was okay in hindsight made it real everybody in the bills. This wrestling stuff. I don't know is it Showbiz? If someone punched my old as the way I would kill this guy. My aunt my my mom. My sister to genucel anyways wants to restart. We finally got to the ladder match for the World Championship in the main event was never supposed to students. Never supposed to be for the title but I got so hot off it and Sean got so hot off. It became a world title angle. And that's why I love that ladder match because it was a great match and be the story to get there was one of the greatest angles in WB history. But how long did you had title going into? That feud was that the I won the title once again. It all tied in classic Vince Booking I punched Shawn's wife in the face. Then we have to do an unsanctioned match which means whatever happens the. Wb is not held liable for any of this and was basically a street. Fight that that that table bump I took an Alpha Omega. I got from the Sean where he hits. The chair I fall off the corner threw the table. They've set up earlier and he'd beat the Shit Out. He killed me and the finish was he just beat me that he beat me up by submission. Randy Bailey came back. Beat me up some more. Be More Whitney with the bell cow. I was beat the GOP. Then guess what happens the last match on the show as the scrabble match a five way match? Sam Puckett's beaten up. Who's the fifth guy? Me I come in get the shit kicked out of me by everybody and it's one of these things where you could win the title. The title and the talent remember has it at the end. Hot Potato Wins. And Batista's is the champion and he power bombs Kane and I roll Batista once you three zero on the champion. So I walked out of there was a day. Okay even though Sean beat the shit out of me so that leads to the ladder match. See going into that. I didn't know the whole build up. But it's just an awesome matching. The thing I liked about the match was it was so smart because you see an first of all the ladder match between razor in China or whoever else had one and I know we're talking about. Wf SO WE RAISE SEAN MASHED. Then do what you gotta start at the sing out. You started putting work in solid work but it was just laid out in such an intelligent fashioned. You're using the ladder as a weapon. You're using it as a means to an end to try to get to the belt but you didn't do everything from top of the ladder and so I like the fact that it was so ground-based and using the scissor action using pivot points of the spot in. Yeah in a corner coming out of the figure for which he reversed on you and then you kick the land. Ravenous his cell job on that. Oh you know that one. But we're your climb to the top. You penned him of your lab at the top and Jesus Christ it's gotTa Watch you ascend to the top of the ladder now and get this damn belt. You become a chair helpless. You take a Mega Bob. That was a masterful. Bob I mean you do things like that. In several other instances as well great bumps that were done from a high angle and on top of the ladder which are extremely high risk. And you guys both stayed safe. I don't know how you felt a after the match you can tell me but I just like the scissor action using it as a weapon. You know you need to climb it. But the hardy boys Christner's Dudley's you know all those guys have unbelievable matches. Yeah this was a match out of all of 'em they've all been for the most part. They've all been spectacular. This is one of the best ever will appreciate that. And actually the idea of that was to not you can't compete with the Hardee's and edge and interest guys. Let's use the ladder as a weapon. it's something that actually there's another great latte much had against Ben Wa Royal Rumble and New Orleans thousand one. That's the first time I ever did the walls of Jericho on the ladder to famous moment but our idea was. Let's just it's a ladder. Let's use it as a weapon of some even climb this thing took the same concept with Sean. After all we've done we needed just beat each other up with this ladder and instead of thinking of ways to take bumps off it. Let's look at ways to take bumps using it and that's why it worked because you have to think this is a seven month. This is a literal blood. Feud like even the unsanctioned match. Even though he beat Michel was still crying at the end because the pain he went through from punching his wife So you had to make it violent real another thing about this. Do the hit me in the eye lost attitudes. And that's real. I mean in that horrible thing they lose your teeth in the ring but once again I remember when it came on I looked up and smiled and I had half a tooth and I remember I thought to myself. I look like the Ghost Ben. What kind of freaked me out. But to see that that made it real and the next. I didn't go to the dentist the next day because I wanted to go on raw the next night and show the world lost half a tooth. I look like Jim Carrey in dumb and dumber and I want to show you. This is this is what happened. Yes I one but this is the price I paid for real. This is not a gimmick wrestling thing. I lost half a frigging tooth. That is still might lose at some point. 'cause they said might rotten die because the route got messed up too. But that to me you have these happy accidents L. I got my lip. Split some spitting blood. It just makes it that much more. It's the Classic Austin Brett double turned if you hadn't got the color on that. Hold when he had you in the sharpshooter. It wouldn't have been the same but obviously you did that getting Keller but still it needed it. The half the to the whole thing it made it a classic classic match with all of the elements that happened in spite of the match. And because of it I didn't know the finish of the match because like I said I remember watching it but as we were talking before we have to sound the record button do so much had some Lebed. Yeah and that's just life nicer still chairs the finish that match. I'm thinking it's worth Sean. We'll get to build and you retained. Yeah and it was an unbelievable finish and preceding that when you're hanging from the you know when the ladder hanging upside down in a couple of thousand y'all taking of others just a couple of bumps used in that latter times you drive yourself over in the corner but go into the finish. Who came over to finish? I can't remember because you started sliding better go. We were. We were having a tug of war for the for the title. He had one end the other end of. We're both play. I almost fall down and then I kind of come up and push it into his face and he gets hit with a belt he falls off the thing I loved about. This is that Sean I worked together to come up with that. All angle with Brian. Keywords. As you would call them as well and Michael. Vince was involved too. But every week we'd show up where we're going to go with this. There was never a seven planet. Who's a week by week? What can we do this week to make cool so sean I worked so it's like Lennon McCartney. I don't know what part of the Song Paul wrote a song. Allen rose just a team effort so I'm not sure exactly came up with it but I do know at that point in time. We were both what about this. How about that? This is probably something that both of us came up with together. I would say that was probably a little more Sean. Because Sean was losing. So Sean was always. GonNa make sure he's coming up with something that's great. He's not just going to fall flat. Or Yeah you know especially at the end of the day care. He cares and then once again. He's losing this. Big Blood feud that was involving his family. So that that's that's the thing when you ladder matches now so much stuff has been done. What can you do this? Never been done before. Just the psychology and the drama of that. That's what I loved about that at one more little thing. We had a ladder match money in the bank ladder match last year. I think it's summer slam or something. It was me Owen. Zane SA- Zarro del. Rio Ambrose good match as a good match. But here's what happened. Those guys started getting so obsessed with like you gotta get power bombed on the ladder and you got to fall off the top of the Titan. Try because if we don't do something cool no one's going to buy and I sat there listening. I throw in some file at one point. I just went Tom. Hanks capitals. I'm the captain now. Everything now is going to be decided on approved by me if anybody has any problems. Go Tell Vince. You've got a problem because I know who's GonNa side with. You guys are way off base. This is not what a ladder matches about a ladder matches about this climbing climbing reaching reaching knocked down climbing climate. That's all it. Is You WANNA take bumps the ladder? Go ahead not on my watch not on my match and we put it together using the drama of the ladder match and it turned out to be a hell of a contest. It was a great match afterwards. Remember say museums like you were rights. Of course I'm getting right. Listen to me you know one of the best I ever had. And in all my years into business was passed out and sharp shooter and Chicago Double. Turn and I laid there. In a pool of blood doing after that but stunner referee while Shamrock inbred heart would do a little bit of physicality to follow the storyline. I remember just laying in a pool of blood and I just got dam which is at a grand slam shut. Mentors five people on base and I was just laying there when you guys tumble down. You know and it's over and everything comes across. I mean I love the match because of the calls were protected. The calls that were made all protected but there wasn't a lot of communication. Everything was tight. Everything looked great. Everything came off like should have or if it didn't you covered. What do you feel at the end of Alpha Omega? When that's over. What do you feel an and you you? You Drew Money. Fill HOUSE UP. Are you Jewish your sense of satisfaction from an accomplish standpoint? Shawn Michaels Ladder Match Your Land. Air The matches over well. I know what it was for me. What do you feel? I mean. I've always been the type of guy were as soon as the bell rings for the Finish to the match. I know if it was good or bad to me. I don't need anyone else to tell me. I don't have to go on social media. Look good or bad. I don't need everyone wants compliment from six. Even Ventura I know if he says is great. I didn't believe it. I don't care if EFI says sock than I thought it was great. I can only just what I feel. But there's a certain nights and it's something that we all tried for in the business even with Fauzi you have when you do a live show it you hit the Jackpot only once in a while and that's why it's a special night and both those matches were very special phase other. The Sean was little worse because I had half tooth and it was still spinning up pieces of my teeth. So you don't even think about that out there you just think like. Wow what a match. What a great contest. Amazing the Omega One. I think there was just. I played real pitch man in that. I wanted to sell tickets and everything I did. Leading up to. It was selling tickets selling tickets selling subscriptions so the match is almost like okay. I'll worry about the match when I get there but when the match is coming closer now and get that nervous. 'cause I'm forty seven years old and there's a lot of experts he's never going to keep up with Canio mega and the knockin even do anything. It'll be smoke and mirrors and it'll be fine but come on Jericho's forty seven. I don't think that I'm forty-seven I never feel that way. I never realized that I said forty seven who me let me check my driver's license while I'm forty seven but I know I know who I am as a performer. And once again I came in. We met up a couple of days before I came in with the finish of the match. I came in with the beginning. Kenny had the whole middle. We had a couple little detail. Switches and stuff. We laughed couple days later. It was the show changed a couple of things do we had. I knew it was going to be great because the what was set up which you don't know as once again the middle things grabbing the cameras sticking it up. You know there's one point where we're going to do a move someone else did it earlier. Let's just think of it. Out there on the table and jumps off the scaffold double foot stop on the table. I was just all Improv. That stuff makes you when you IMPROV. And it's working you get off on it now. It's the Tokyo Dome so the sound goes up. I don't know like people are really not reacting to it as a performing. It's like this is good but the crowd's not really into it. You Watch it back. They're going nuts but you can't hear it in the ring. It's like a wrestlemainia stadium. So I knew it was good at the end but I didn't expect it was going to get the type of reviews and feedback that I got on a personal level like you said before all that shit comes in. I mean you know you went out there you gave out had never everything comes out. Acis. I mean to me the same thing with seventeen with rock and the astrodome. You know twenty five minutes of the. He'll turn beat him in that chair and good color and all that stuff and I was turning heel. If I go back and do it again I'd call an audible. Save influences said that right but just just walking around even before going into that match new nerves no nothing I knew the mission was GonNa get it done and we are. The roof thought that place but that landed up poodle blood or just a dude at any house show but on the biggest stage like the states that you're just on to me do the satisfaction level of crushed. It validates all all first of all we love to be on the road and we love being ring all the bullshit that you go through but man to be up there to be able to perform do so much you love. Russia is the best the best of which you know what's funny and and this is something that can be laughing about when when we talked about it. The next day was there was some things in the match. I don't even have to tell you that didn't go the way they're supposed to. And that's what you focus on because you don't know like until you see it back and it's like made it even maybe even better but the time you're like what was the referee because he do and I'm always thinking about that but then when I came through and actually the first guy I saw was tiger. Torey longtime new. Japan referee one of one of the office. Guys there came up to me was almost crying. That was so good. Thank you man like really thought it was that all best matched like really. Wow and then someone else comes over and someone else and like these guys think this is like the Meltzer this the best match of your career. I'm like wow so now I'm feeling even better about it but when I came out of it I enjoyed it but I was too busy thinking about the things that didn't work not realizing that. In retrospect it made it even better but I knew what we had and I knew. I never touched Kenny. Except for that beat down. We never had a match together. I never had a match with Shawn Michaels before wrestlemainia. Two thousand three whatever number that was eighteen nineteen sometimes you just get in there with somebody and you got that chemistry and it's just easy easy easy. Every match was smooth. It was crisp. Like I said man. I can't even think now anything that I would. There's one thing that I would change. But that's just being a real super stickler but other than that it was. It was a great great night before right off into the sunset out here in Los Angeles promoting something so when you talk about your and also talk about where people can find your podcast. It's so there's a show that did but I'm Chris. Jericho and I came up with this idea. Back in two thousand five. When I got burned out from wrestling I left and I came out to La not to become a movie star to study acting. And I would go into these auditions were. There'd be like fifteen people that look like me and you'd be doing one line for CSI Sheboygan like these pretzels are making me thirsty and then they go. Thanks and it'd be like that's it like I'm Chris. Jericho fan base. That they didn't give a shit you know they didn't care and I was like what would happen if I got blackballed out of wrestling and I had to get an acting and I had no steam and I had to start from the bottom so I came up with this idea but I'm Chris Jericho and kind of curb. Your enthusiasm style. Seinfeld in type thing where? I'm playing myself an exaggerated version. But what would happen if you know if I got so? It took me eight years to sell it. I sold it back in two thousand thirteen. Canadian company did really good one. A Bunch of Film Festivals Film Festival. One one in France with a bunch of momentum. And then that's it it's done about a year ago. Cbc WHO's the biggest networking candidate? Goldman wanted to season two so season to Chris. Now is the fourth lead on starker. Sater's a really shitty Scifi show. But he's still pissed off over exaggerated premadonna version of myself and it was so much fun to play because I can play a real dick who always archie bunker. I always get screwed in the end and I mean we had Kevin McDonald and Scott Thompson from the hallway. Had Anti Kimbler from Bob's Burgers is in all these great performers. And it's really really funny and I had a really good time doing it. And because it's fun to play a version of yourself that you don't usually get to do you. People think Christopher is going to be the hero and he's got to now this is the opposite he's just a Prima Donna. Always kind of angry and it's just a really fun show that gave me as you know. We love comedy. GimMe chance to show this comedic skills that I've learned over the years on the big screen. So when's it going to be onto where it's on right now? But I'm Chris Jericho DOT COM season two. And you can go there. You see season one season. Two and season one is like ten bite size You know episodes but season two is a story arc. You started beginning all the way through to the end. So it's been a big hit man like I said it's a good way to kind of do something else other than just always wrestling and rock and roll do. What does that what happened to? There's nothing happening here. What's it called nothing to report the to? Jesus Christ I collagen so I loved it. It was so hokey it was wonderful. Same idea going on in the same vein that was guys to cops and nothing ever happened. Just kind of talking about their own personal problems to win so more for comedy central and it was right when their holes infrastructure kinda went to. Shit we got caught on the switch booker's right in the middle of it. Anybody can alleys making your black lab. Maybe smells my black lab. Yeah we we wanted to do something with it did so good and comedy central just kind of dropped the ball on it. But it's fun to do those things and the thing is nowadays with with digital it's on demand people. Is it on TV. It doesn't have to be you. Watch it whenever you want. You know so. Yeah but I'm Chris. Jericho DOT com. Check it out and you'll have a couple of laps a lot of fun I man. You got your podcast. You didn't tell week now. Yeah two week talk Jericho on the Westwood. One radio network which is really cool to move over there and still doing the same thing. I do. Keep it diverse Something that you said when we first started doing this again not my competition. What I want to be is is is Corolla Joe Rogan and Hardwick. And those guys. And that's Kinda shows that I do. Some weeks is rusting. Somebody's rock and roll so makes comedy some weaknesses. Paranormal whatever I find interesting so it's been going really good man and last question. What's making music right now? Well Judas went top five for ten weeks biggest hit of our career we sold. I just thought we sold like over one hundred thousand singles which is this day and age must be a million second single as painless that comes out this week. It's already gone top forty. I'm hoping that goes top ten. Maybe even top five number one. We go out with Steel Panther in Europe January. Twenty eighth and that we play here in the states. February twenty three start with doing the whiskey here on March tenth and Shit Dude again. Give me a minute down. 'cause I come check. Yeah I'm joining us. There's GonNa be a dealer Bailey. Said let's do we just hang out shoot? We've done the podcast now. You're going to do mine after and we've got the podcast out of the way we can just hang out we've got to podcasts out of the way Kelly's rootless. We're going to try to keep here because you actually are professional. I don't really give it all for Free Chris Jericho Awesome guy were out next week. On the Steve. Out and show. I have my old buddy Mike. 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