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Episode 10. The Real Brian Mosher
"Hi, I'm Laura and this is meanwhile on our plane my weekly fan podcast about all things come from away. Welcome to episode 10 in this episode. I'll be talking with Brian Moshe who is one of The Inspirations for the character Janet Moser. Brian was in Gander over the five days around September eleventh and was the local TV reporter home. So I'm excited to share his stories with you a little bit of news this week. Is that The Duality music event that I've mentioned in the past podcasts on here has come back wage. They're now going to be on on Friday and Saturdays at Tottenham Court Road and where someone who complained about the noise are actually doing it as a silent disco, which is really cool. And so you go there and you get sanitized headphones and they give you and you can basically listen to all the performers through sanitize headphones. It's still all free outside Center birth. A nap Tottenham Court Road and two of our London cast Ms. Al Lowe and Glenn Tierney have both performed there and they let you know at 10 a.m. In the morning on the Friday and Saturday who's going to be on that day off like a whole host of West End star. So definitely worth checking that out. Some other exciting news. Is that our Bueller from London and Jenna Boyd is going to be in Cross Street for the next few weeks and she's going to be playing the character of Wendy cable. So definitely if you're in the UK tune into that also this week on Instagram the doctor drop-off doctor Alyssa how it is speaking to Irene sankoff about all things mental health. So that's another thing too definitely have watch of and I'll leave the link Down Below in a nice. I hope you enjoy this week's interview with Brian Moshe. All the memories are still fresh. I was talking to my producer lunch time today, and we just keep reminiscing. Yeah. Twenty years later nineteen years later. It's still fresh. That's crazy. That's been twenty nearly twenty years as well. Because even I I know everyone says I remember they were but I remember being at school and I remember that moment of like the teachers coming in and tell us what happened and I mean Thirteen the gravity of it was oh, yeah, she knows, you know, but I think fortunately for us, you know, I didn't really get the gravity of the situation or all of a sudden like run madly madly off in all directions not chance you want me to do what you know, cuz like planes don't hang around and they come in they drop people off to put people aboard to throw gas in them and they go, you know there you don't even really cool off here. They just go places. So the thought of the 38th wide body is one actually being on the ground here and having room for all of them and them hanging around here for four or five days. I mean you looked at people said you are nuts off. Eddie your mind. Yeah five days they did hang around here. So yeah, I think it's just really interesting from the beginning like before God before nine-eleven like the history of Ganga another airport. Like I find fascinating how it was like a military airport and all the famous people like did you ever get to see like any of the famous people? Yes. Yeah Prince Philip was here often were called in the middle of the night. I was barbecuing actually one night and we got a call because the last Concorde was on her way to her final destination, and it was just after the Paris crash and they smelled Smoke Shack in smoke that they smelled smoke in the cabin. So they ditched her in the gander and George Benson and Tony Bennett were on that plane. So we were out filming Through the Windows like little group. He's dead, you know, there's a spot you got to come to games or something because there's a spot the international Lounge you gotta remember our airport open 6 years ago 1959 the queen flew over and opened and Queen, Elizabeth, New Jersey. And there's an international VIP lounge now up until now it's been closed off only you had to be an international VIP like the president of the country or royalty G or you know, somebody really important to get in there. But the who's who of the world have been there. I was on an airport committee once and we were invited to have supper there and they sent you on a couch off hand for a drink and you got to guess who the last person to sit in that spot was in my spotter was Vladimir Putin. Wow. I missed I was on my way to that same marketing committee that one year and missed shaking net Nelson. Mandela's Hand by I think three minutes to the other guys on the committee actually got to meet him shake his hand. He said he was an absolute gentleman, and he was just hanging around just bought a shake hands and yeah, like and the small private plane, I guess drink British Open week all the major golfers will gas up their planes and Gander. World biggest gas station Gander airport and you know and then like you get into the international side the side that's similar to flip and become more open to the public home and you go out into the international Lounge, which is absolutely beautiful out there and like you can stand at the bar where Frank Sinatra was told the wait is termed because somebody had ordered a drink ahead of them. You can walk through the door where the Beatles first steps in North America were because it was at Gander Airport. Right, like, you know a million stories. That's it's a low number again. The place is a living breathing history book off because don't forget in not that long ago. If you came across the Atlantic you had to come into Canada for gas. I definitely want to get out for the 20th anniversary next year for, obviously. Yeah, like now like obviously dependent on what what's happening to be honest cuz of, you know, travel restrictions and everything else. It's I would make my reservations now and pray a lot and like it's and it's it's a marker that needs to happen and we're all really hoping it does. You know, it's hard to believe one's been twenty years. You know how fast where did the time go? You know was only the other day we had danced and then we all got back together and which is really interesting because the whole thing sort of like dick for but the first ten years it was yeah, I remember when all those passengers. Oh, yeah, right. Yeah, you can go sleep or no. Not really. Remember when all those passengers were here sure and then the 10th anniversary sort of rekindled the fire and I remember Ozzie looking at me at the 10th said, you know, we started to think we did something special. I'm on me to take it myself. I was in Cloud rep no more talking. Maybe there's more to this than we gave it credit for. Well knows you never know it is I think that was it. A lot of that was quite a lot of press at the temp wasn't there and then is that yes, that's why they've been Arena and everyone came into it also that as well. So, yes, there was an awful lot of press from everywhere here on on the tenth anniversary and as usual in New Berlin fashion a lot of really good food and you know a lot of getting together and it was the first time that a lot of us had seen each other probably the first time any of us had seen each other since those planes left, you know, ten years before that. Cuz against purposes once those planes left on spam to 16/16. Yeah in in. Oh one knew damn. Well, you're never going to see a lot of them, you know, if any of them, you know, none of us were thinking musical at that point in time. Most of us were thinking pillow. It's dead honest to God. I'd like I look like someone punched me in the face. I really did I had bags under my eyes. Like I've never had them before like swollen eyes red eyes. I had had over-caffeinated myself. I was running on Beyond borrowed energy. But you had to do what you had to do. Yeah, it was like the adrenaline as well must have been like kaneki for new. Oh, yeah, but when that adrenaline crashed that's a Thursday night it was and it was really weird for me because I'm not good at goodbyes. I'm the world's worst. Goodbye person. You've ever met it out of like if I stop up on a real sentiment off and when we said goodbye to these people you're going out. This is the bar like, you know, these people didn't plan on coming here and the people won't ever come back and this is Kebab. We're both of them on the school bus to drop them off your 5 days ago and but in my cuz I ran a dual life at the time I was the high school media teacher in Gander plus I was the on your person at Rogers dead and you can juggle the two of it because what happens in the after-hours the other one happens, you know, you're covered community events and they happen not during the work day but in the evenings weekends, it's a lot of fun job. I got really close to a number of passengers who were at Gander Collegiate. That's the hospital here in town. They were up of hands of light on their way to New York. and when the final Past papers on the bus and it left more after the airport a young fellow that I got to know really really. Well. He was on his way to New York to marry the love of his life and he was he was from Germany issue was from New York. It was a beautiful love story and he was he was really panicking because he taught that it too long lamp immigration or citizenship off all that legality type thing would kick in and he wouldn't be able to enter the US and then his marriage and you know all this stuff. I mean I sat on nights before yeah. So on Saturday when they look like there was no chance of anybody leaving. He went downtown drinking. While he was at a bar in him, you know, well Uptown Gander five minutes away from Gander Collegiate savings five minutes away. Again, the boss came took the other passengers on life. He arrived back to an empty School in a pouring rainstorm. And I looked at him cuz it was only five of us in the building two of them were from alabanza the vice principal principal and me and him and he was crying because when I said they were left of complaining left and no no no. No, I will get you to the airport not thinking cuz little hands of guys suck. Okay, you take him to the airport for them right in with our passengers. Don't first. Who did I just say goodbye to an hour ago? Same people now that I got to say goodbye to all over again, and I'm five days. But at Sweet, oh my goodness. Oh boy. I got home that night tension headache just a bag of nerves formalize. Yeah. It's saying goodbye wants his boss saying goodbye twice. Yeah. Oh it was you know, cuz she you were for the passengers and and for me, especially with the T thing You were the sounding board you were the people that they came to one they needed to just bent in the night and you were the people that took the places your car put a lot of miles on it that we taking people for necessities and taking people to the movie theatre and taking people they wanted to go down for a while or you know, I mean you spend some of these people and then of course, we did a lot of street or type interview stuff with Rogers and we had a lot of the people they got to know you and they got to know you really well. You know, the really fun part of this was that we had a new reporter at the local paper position that got filled on September 10th. Her name was Jennifer and to keep running into her and I never knew her name. I think it was on the third day. I said listen, you got a name cuz we like press briefings and we be at these security things and we'd be at the media but don't do the cuz the security was frightening right? Like, you know, if you go stick a microphone some people's thoughts insist on being in the wrong place at the wrong done. You might find yourself a little bit of hot water. You know, I remember the first one I was sitting next to her didn't know her from the Man in the Moon. I only figured I think after the meeting that she was dead reporter with the local paper and I told her a hundred times to send you listen, I think it was two days after that before I found you even had a name now. She's like one of my best friends and wage. We talk to each other all the time. It's hard sometimes to get your head around just how much we did over those five days. It's a lot. You know off and put the beautiful thing about it all and was like Plata said number down. So we all pulled in the same direction. Nobody bumps. The way things were supposed to go home and everybody did, you know their part, you know, you look at the legion go on. Oz was have our police force. He was on day shift that week. I tell you how long you have talked about how things unfold cuz I mean people were glued to gems two stories in the paper. To radio and to me on community television three shows a day for five days with not a lot of preparation will be totally honest with you and I'm not electronic communication like nobody could get their phone and see a list of things that they had read of no Twitter. No Facebook no email and the weather was emailed but it was kind of new and kind of rough life. You know, I had a flip phone and they got a hundred dial-up minutes a month and dad died. I had to deluxe package the standard one had forty minutes and that was you know, dial in seven numbers. Hello. How are you song so like conversations were very short. We never had a conversation. But Ozzie Fudge god-loving. Don't tell him I said that Ozzie fudge brownie show up before every show with a stack of paper. He would go around to all the buildings during the daytime. They would have announcements typewritten handwritten, whatever wage But he brings them into the cable station you'd be there 20 minutes before every show noon. 3:35 30 Oz would be there and he'd have a stack of stuff. That's where the foil paper announcement comes from. By the way, the toilet paper announcement comes from there on the third day or the fourth day one of the Thursday. Yeah. Okay third day. He came in it actually happened began to Academy 800 volunteers and our 800 passengers or two hundred volunteers. They're running out of toilet paper defcons. Don't run out of toilet paper. And I remember my my producer looked at me and fortunately my producer of my life of my best friends and they looked at me. So before you say anything to us one, you need them and two he's being legit get her Academy is running out of Pope. Well, you know, I'm announcing everything else today off from menus have places wanted to what so like no place running toilet paper. No problem. So 3:30. I'm on the three three Chevy 34-30 and I'm saying okay, you know the Elks club royal fish dinners. There's some vegetable dishes needed a gander Collegiate Saint Paul's need some desserts and Gander Academy and this one is not home and read cademy is running low on toilet paper. See if you have a couple of extra rolls of toilet paper that can really use some at Gander Academy. You think nothing up before the 5:30 show Aziz back again, and it's got this sheet of paper right on the top of this file. And it's got this grin on his face is stupid Ozzy grin because the home and my producer again steps in between us and says Ozzy is being serious again, so don't say anything to him. Remember you need Ozzy and it's a typewritten announcement. But in ours is really ugly gross and runny Scott for the local God written on the top of it. So red for the love of God, please don't bring me toilet paper to get her and 15 minutes a class room was filled with the ceiling with toilet paper. They didn't buy any more for most of the following school year and none of it was very little book was in packages was like one or two rolls off. Its hope what they had to do cuz they needed the classroom once all the passengers went back one day had to had to they had to get kids back in at the teach himself. He had to take like four and six rolls at a time or walk up to the Chevy. Back and like like you more of a set of books. Yeah, there was thousands of rolls off the paper came up one day. There was a big game under at Gander Collegiate. Of course. I was a proposed anything then go look usually me to see how we're going to make it happen. But you cry moves now September here is moose hunting seasons. A lot of people got most that they just got the big animal. I mean you're talking four or five hundred pounds of meat when you get a most So I said I just made an announcement. I've met a guy he's a big game Hunters a gander Collegiate. He wants to try and moves. Can you put that in with the announcement to I said, I'll write it down. I won't remember it. So he scribbles it down on a piece of paper off Big Game Hunter a gander Collegiate looking for moose wants to try moose and he said he heard it's good. It was in a bottle is one of the ways that you preserve you put it in a preserver job that impacts really good. That was during the 5:30 show at 7:00. I want a gander Collegiate and I found out that since that show 20 bottles of mousse had landed a gander Collegiate plus three casserole dishes of people that were preparing bottle most for their supper ditch. Supper brought up the gander Academy organically to somebody. Wow. I said, I only want to try for people and like you're off. What do you want the Moose cold over here have it, you know. The level of generosity phenomenal like I think back now nineteen years and the level of generosity is it was amazed, you know, just like with cuz I read the the day the world came to town in bikinis and it's just absolutely amazing because you watch the show and you think oh, well, you know, I can see how incredible is and then you read the book and you realize like how many stories they couldn't even fit into the show or how many stories you almost missed from the show because they're they're portrayed as like one line off. And actually I found it really interesting and what they put did put in the show and yeah, it's just I mean you could eat eat well Around the Clock Around the Clock in the middle of the night you wanted like a stuff yourself hot meal. It was there, you know crazy amounts of food. Were you wanted to go whatever you need? It don't even baked just a suggestion and it happened. You know, it's and I tell you what the role lot of people whose pants didn't fit them really well in a way back on real and you know, we had you talked about an example for the world. We had ninety three countries represented. We say you had 38 wide body plans. We had seven thousand people. We were ninety $300 at the time where I was fourteen thousand out of town the Chrome. Someone asked myself as we were doing yet another one of our bus tour talks last summer at the summer cuz nothing happened this summer and they said what was the crime rate like in Gander over those five days and both us and I stopped and we looked at each other and I said I didn't turn the lights on on the police car wash. I never report on anything. There was a zero crime know disagreements now. Yes where there's some tense moments. Yes. I mean we had people at any given moment, especially when you're in live TV, you're going on to your destination know you're not you're going back to your point of origin. Hang on. No, you're going to your point of origin. I know you're going through Point destination again. Nobody's going anywhere all planes are grown. Because that situation was really fluid and you know, there were times when there were people who had to get back home. There were people a lot of people who really wanted to get home. That was kind of unsure for a little while, you know, eventually domestic carriers went to the point of destination non non American carriers went back to Europe would be reprocessed wage. Kevin Kevin story comes in and maybe go back to Paris and then they want to back. That one but you know people able to remarkably well, I mean, I'm sorry. All I had a front-row seat problem was really really front row seat to head phone number. Well, I lost everything happened. We used to encode light. Did you kind of keep in contact with you always in contact with the people from Ganda? Yeah, like okay for about the first month after the passengers went back. We were inundated with gifts cards coffee table books chomplets things being sent all the venues were receiving. It's like you wouldn't believe and then like anything a month goes by and so on and and then it all sort of wines down, you know, and then it really sort of went into a hibernation thing off. There was a couple of people in Germany for about the next two years. Maybe we get Christmas cards from them and then it really died now, you know, it was dead. So so there were a couple of really cool documentary things done a b c news. There's a really great one called Angels of Hope ABC News out of New York Tom Brokaw crusted the infamous operation yellow ribbon wanting 2010 later during the Olympics were all on that and we thought that was that was the greatest thing that was ever going to happen to us that Tom Brokaw did a one-hour, Santa. Oh my God. We're on TV with Tom Brokaw, right Tom Brokaw says my name and then the 10th anniversary came and met these two young people off. And we suddenly you're talking to the people. We knew ten years ago Kevin Kevin Beverly zou record. Nick and Diane's and now we're married like nine years on you know, and and on down the list and it's sort of thought fire and then we start hearing that these two young people were writing a musical a play originally, but it's going to be a musical. Of course. You gotta know Ozzy when I was a good thing. So it's really beautiful, you know, cuz this is going to write the Broadway isn't it as not everything goes Broadway really weird. I talked to I was pretty much every day and then all of a sudden you start hearing it's breaking records and then all of a sudden the story of Gander during nine-eleven is getting pretty darn big and then like Loya off Seattle DC and then Toronto and then Kaboom New York and then A way we go and the last three years till the virus if it's been pretty darned busy, you know so off I have full faith is going to get back on the rails again, but that's yeah hopefully soon cuz I miss yeah, I miss it too. It's been a huge especially for the last three years has been a huge about four years now has been a huge huge chunk of our lives here. Yeah, cuz you have seen the London you've seen both London cast seventy or like one of the only ones that yeah, I was I was on the changeover. Yeah. We were there on the one-year anniversary and we screeched in the new cast. Yeah. Well, we were there. It's really interesting cuz I speaking to Rico a couple of weeks ago one of our standbys and he was saying about long bed cuz I was like, I think even the night that he got switched it was oh my God, how was it and I was telling me about it and he said like it was really interesting how it will happened and like but even that you gave I'd like the restrictions because of like the virus starting off and stuff wrapping the fish lips and celebrating before. Yeah. Well, that would be happening. Once this is over. We may have to read you the cash in because the genuine intimate kiss for the codfish is on that fish don't to that was that was a stinky Fish Shack. Oh my god, really smells and looks like slimy. It was yeah glad I haven't got a damaged trade with fish off, but it was so everybody was so gay and there were a couple from the initial cast who had missed description. I forget who Channel but Jenna and won marry and marry. Yeah. Yeah, Anna and Mary had both missed it. And of course Bonnie was there and Mary is kissing with data off. Oh, definitely. Definitely. Yeah, it's a butt and they all did it, you know, but when we get it here and we can get all the ingredients all it's going to be beautiful. That was March 12th. Yes and March 13th came with a wallet home. It's just so fast fast scan something changed the world. So oh, yeah, so you were still in so did that affect you getting back as well? Because what we got back fine, but then I found out when we landed we landed it. And so we left early in the morning at a London on 30 Friday the 13th my favorite time to fly over an ocean Friday the 13th for flew over the Atlantic. And we got home as we went Heathrow Toronto. Then we met up with Claude clubs in Saskatchewan in Stuart similar thing is schedule one and off he started talking but everything that a closed which was basically the entire world since we left London and then we went Toronto Halifax Health our standard got began or just before midnight that may change and I found out there was something called the quarantine. And I was perfect that for the next two weeks. I was going to be in the house. And I was not to go through the door. It's going to hand. It's it's it's going to run its course and yeah, I'm suggesting a great big party one at all is finally gone off. Definitely. Yeah. How are things now in Gander? Where'd you learn? This end-of-the-world? We're doing really well. There are no Active cases here in Gander as a matter of fact in Newfoundland in its entirety. I think there are seven or eight Active cases right now and Thursday are they have been isolating and so on we were case free weeks. Like we really have contained The Curve here, you know, that's somewhat isolated has its perks sometimes but you know, everybody's wearing a mask everybody you quote the storm out everybody's done a mask on everybody's keeping their life since the big difference. You notice is that anything social isn't happening right now, like I love live concerts. I love live shows. I love that sort of thing and that isn't happening right now. And all the touristy stuff, like especially people like myself and a squad Beulah who really involved in tourism here in the local Central area. And this year was shaping up to be almost too busy to get everything done. And officially none of it happened. Nothing now one thing so here's what we figure is that next year. We're going to double up and we're just going to be swamped with people and especially with the twentieth year, you know, yeah, that's cuz I know Kevin teased during the trip, that's that's not showing that you get more information. But yeah, he was because he's going to leave the states and and come up and come down through and that's through. I think McCarthy's is McCarthy's know it's true maximum wage maximum vacation. Yeah, and he's he was supposed to be doing that last month September, but obviously like everything else didn't happen. But yeah, Kevin wage To Kevin t-ball store is owned by the way. I believe that's going to include some sort of a ceremony at the legion. Which leaves usually just like change of fish on your lips among other things? Select talking of come from away. You know how many times you've seen it over 30? Okay. Yeah see him several times in Toronto several times in New York several times now in London Melbourne Australia that I've also seen Seattle Ottawa several other places off Gander st. John's cuz it's it's been the Toronto past did the st. John's sing a couple of January's ago and the song New York cast before it went to Broadway brought up. The gander. That was a $0.19 four years ago four years ago next week. I wow wage. They wanted as a couple of them said we wanted to come to where it happened to see if it would get the approval. When the last I am an Islander is on I remember talking to Kendra kassebaum replaced Janice Moser afterwards. She said I wasn't sure I was home singing the same songs the person next to me cuz I couldn't hear them through the monitors. I've covered everything at that community centers from religious revival meetings to All-Star hockey games. I have never heard that level of noise in a state and David are mean, they were inside inside Wings just crying tears when Michael rubinoff same thing the floor vibrated under your feet off the loudest level of acceptance of of anything that I've ever seen go about that Community Center and I covered I covered the very first event there and now hundreds of things things that initial show at again. I hadn't seen it up to that. Wow. Oh my goodness. Yeah, I was back and forth cuz usually when they when they were writing a David Choi. Text or a call David every now and then saying can you stream you don't have this happen? Sure this does this is got them copies of my old footage. He looked at it our initial meeting. I think it was over four hours long. Wow. Yeah, David Narine and myself and we we actually met at the cable station and I took off the old tapes of the box and I started playing the form and they're taken down notes recording things on their phones, and it was I mean, it's amazing how The Friendship bonded right then and there we've been best friends and presents, you know and away we go and of course, you know the Oprah story right when off the Janice motion character at the end comes out and says I stayed here and I'm still here in Gander reporting on stories. A lot of people took an interest Oprah. Winfrey called me. Yeah, true story on home phone right there behind me. I wow. Yeah, we we went back to work, of course. A week after nine-eleven. They had sent us two buildings and whatever else and our first day back. I mean, I was still really tired of sleep hangover, whatever you want to call it, but I came home which was totally not like me came home early that that first day. I'm just going to have an app. My principal called me as soon as I got home or something trying to get a hold of you and I said who we said Oprah? Okay, cuz I had the only one that was it. I had I had and I thought of it, you know was that the cable station but like to them but my footage was Does all that exists but no one else could get in so you had exclusive I didn't realize how big the thing was I was more in survival mode. And when I went back up to the school to call Chicago because I rather use their long-distance in mind. Of course. I'm the only Moser in Gander. So Oprah's assistant Hillary decided to look up the only Moser and Gander and, she left a message on the answering machine still are he's been there now making years. Wow. I don't even know if the old phone still works we leave it plugged in but it's a Yeah, I still have a nineteen-year-old message from Oprah Winfrey cuz that's like one of the only things in the show that's like different as well. Like it's a different thing in the states. It's Tom Brokaw. Yeah. Yeah, brocach is is and then David was here. Actually David line was here one night. It's a strange choice. In fact that Oprah volume. Maybe do we maybe commit to the dining room? Yeah. It's Oprah called the house. So are you going to delete that? I don't think so. Never. So here's David like so David. I've got a copy on his phone. I've got a copy of my phone's off. They attacked Mr. Cloud. It's it's yeah, so he went. Oh my God, this is brilliant and I didn't know it. So we were off the night before the opening show in London. And how is it going to do with the Tom Brokaw thing? Right? So I see em of doing her thing and and it's really weird because like I I find that old saying for whatever reason found that very emotional because it was. The time when I went back with Rogers for that weekend and so on and Oprah Winfrey called the old Chrome Winfrey the message is still on my phone cut all my God. My answering machine is no I don't even know if the phone part of it still works. I just came back for the answering machine. It's like Oprah Winfrey, of course, then all the cats are gone. I remember like Jonathan would be more insane crazy. True that Oprah call you and we're 4 in the office in Canada has we're trying to find a Wi-Fi hotspot because I couldn't get a phone until found Wi-Fi. So ended up paying out someone's following and like a dog What is around going? That's the Oprah message said famous? Yeah, so many special friends have met along the way, you know, and and it's it's it's really incredible. I love it. I like what's one of your favorite memories can come throw away on the day of the opening. Yeah, the the opening all of us off and like all this National media International media were in the top floor of Canada house. Overlooking Trafalgar Square and Thursday. You know, it was amazing. Like everybody was there and they were giving him some statistic Ian speaking anything like ten minutes with everybody all day and and and and the actual cast were there and what was there with us as well as myself, and and we were all there and it was bought extra special for me because one of my media students Kayla hounsell is now a report of a CBC Atlantic and CBC National put her over so she was actually took initially in London cover the initial brakes of talks and then had she picked up the story, of course being from Gander. She picked up the opening of of, way, of course here. I am now, you know in Canada house standing with a former Medias too was now interviewing me for CBC National. I got a pretty special, you know, ya dog Oh, wow. Yeah, that's yeah, she was when nine eleven happened. She was in grade ten. She tells a story but her mom they made a batch of muffins and had to go to like three spots before she found a spot that needed muffins. Sorry. We're full of weapons. Yes, then going after Charles to to get rid of the Moss. I love and which come from what did you have a favorite line in the show? It's when it's when they go back and they took all the TV networks of the world, you know for Al Jazeera for CTP for CBC and then Mo in London what comes up front for Rogers TV? I'm Brian most it's there's something about that line and when they then they go bang into them and Islander game which which will just like combat you but there's something about the delivery of that line. And when you when you become part of TV or radio, you have a a certain way you do things and it's it's sometimes sort of different now conversational way of speaking English, but pauses where you normally wouldn't right and my pauses or exactly where I put them back in 2001 and I remember first time I ever asked I asked Kendra kassebaum. She was the original New York Janus Moser and I said Kendra. How did you know that was my delivery? And she said he watched hours and hours of Old footage was topic guess I E. David Narine but like that sign off and I can see me doing it, you know, and then just want to 1 to 3 for lunch and then like I said and I'll be honest with you. I was the longest time I had at least three good cries for every show. Right the initial one would start. The first time you said the Janice Moser character is this on? Sorry a new which true it was Genesis first day at work, right? Reporting not live for Rogers TV. And now in my case I was I was twenty-seven hours on my feet had not been off my Beats at 7:00 the morning before I'm into a shell. I tell you an interesting story, but that first show I got called I just gotten home. I was going to go to bed with 9:00 on the 12th day of the morning. I went to work 7:00 the morning before we worked through the e x met four hundred people that didn't know what in the name of God was going on and I said, okay, I'm up now. I'm not going to get sleep if I go home. So I'll just stay here. We broke broke schools to happen to 2 and 1/2 will come in and do release the next morning. So 8:30. I was on my way home. I never quite got to bed. My premature called me and he says quick as you can get up here, you're on he said we've got to get a show up. Like there's too many questions if we get the answers on TV off. So I'm putting something together device of working here. They're over here. The crew was here and he said don't give me the song and dance about twenty seven hours any fee cuz he couldn't find me. So, you know track me down the way we go. So I got in and I remember going in through and the microphones going down here shirt and tucking everything in sitting down. I'm getting there. I'm going from a briefing notes. I'm going through public service announcements that we've got. I knew my second guess was Claude. There was a Salvation Army officer sitting next to me, but he wasn't one of the locals cuz we work closely with the Thursday through in television and we're into like the 20 second countdown to go live on the air and I'm looking at him and I'm going I don't know who he is. He couldn't say it but like our technician was there on the floor and you Salvation Army and he knew the look on my basement. Oh my God. No one told him who he is and why he's here. He was visiting and he had done disaster relief. So he sort of the artificial heart of the command with the Salvation Army were coordinating a lot of the relief efforts or disaster efforts at the time and came across the for like GI Joe sort of thing, but a Post-It note this page. Oregon scribbled out boo body place from what caused by then on the Rogers television. I'm Brian Moser it is, you know, Wednesday September 12th. This is a special live broadcast off for my first guest is Colonel Bogey with himself and I got these off when you'll tell me who my guests. Are. You said Salvation Army Lobster. I thought it really got it works in the Salvation Army over here. This isn't him and I'm a rep. I can see all the cross before I run out of two by two postal code. That and then we had gotten the Red Cross on 3rd, and then we signed off and I thought it was going home, but we didn't go home go home. You know, we do home till Saturday. It's all started on Tuesday. But yeah, no it was it was an amazing time, you know to think back. Now what we did in that five day period of time was crazy, you know, but like I said, we all pulled them One Direction and we all did what we were able to do Monday. So what were the other two moments? In come from away. Okay, so we got the free. But when when Hannah just simply says he's gone and there's that pause you feel that quiver, right? Yeah, that's that's that's my three really, you know, but then they're bolstered by you know, for the love of God, please don't bring the toilet paper to the Elks love the Moose Club looking for some help. No, that's the Elks club and they're looking for moose. Sorry. I'm new, you know, and you get these funny, you know, or or the scene that cracks me is like if I could just hotdogs or hamburgers or tuna casserole or if you like I can make you a bologna sandwich to someone says your vegetables in you. Yeah, well yeah as read write the airport manager says, you know, it was really amazing that we couldn't buy a bag of macaroni to save your soul next month wage 150 ways to cope with macaroni Oh God, it was yeah, I mean this does not happen to Regular People Like Us. It's you know, and not that I'm really counting down the days off again, but at nine eleven happened again tomorrow, it would probably happen better cuz we have kind of a handle on how to run things like this. But you know, it was in her nature do what we did, but now currently people are taking a big notice of it. And this thing to say like how different it would be because on one side, you've got the technology that would help you on the other side. Would that have meant that people could rely more on things like social media and not not have been the same because people could have I mean, I know Gander doesn't have necessarily birth dates and things but there's a lot more they could have got from social media that so I think like well the big thing like the big thing was that nobody knew anything when they got out those patience. It was like rumor has it that and it was like twelve our old news but like planes weren't really equipped for gas things. They weren't too fussy but starting a panic especially with people who have been sitting on a hot aircraft for hours and I remember cuz like part of my meeting program at Gander Collegiate. I had a full closed-circuit now I could run messages I could run off. Action or I can run straight up cable feed up and we were told originally that night not to put anything out and leave leave the screens blank don't go panicking people or whatever else matter of fact, I was even thought that night could be one or more terrorists in Gander. The situation could have gotten really really, you know, that's why the planes were brought in over Gander Lake not home town just in case and I said look I can give them all their answers right now. Cuz all the major networks are running the same thing North Tower south tower North Tower south tower Pentagon and then some. To repeat every 5 minutes. So like they'll see everything that needs to go. And I remember I finally got the go-ahead to do that. Again. Oz was a gander delete for some strange reason. I was always around me self-worth and Thor he's said, okay, you can turn the TV's on. Okay and it's it's probably the only time in those five days. I was a bit selfish. I have shown to do that Thursday cable, uh called y q is it was what's going on around kind of like well passengers equip were here that night, you know that night just to be gone again in the morning. I can get some footage that do a little copy to go with it. It'll be a brilliant story could be good. So I took one of my TV cameras, I had to Studio cameras in in my own studio and went in I live the screens off and the other one have to turn them on. But before I did it with the camera on my shoulder got a focus on some people and I filmed them seeing it for the first time. You'll see it in you are here but there's an older guy balding and there's a gas now that gasp was echoed by. So many dozen people who are watching it at the time. It's supposed to midnight on September eleventh the events that happened maybe fourteen hours before that. They were seeing it off the first time but they were a lot of them were from New York and they were watching their homes under attack. I talked to one girl. She lived three blocks from the World Trade Center bulb was watching that entire area being obliterated, you know be like me in New York watching a door being bombed and I needed footage and I got footage that footage is in you are here. But I sat down after I said, you know, what are you doing? Really? What are you doing? You are filming people at some very low points of your lives and I did it off. This is really good footage, but there's times like I can I can hear that gas now from those people and it was like, oh my God, I mean you're watching where you lived. Literally under attack from terrorists something you never thought would happen. Certainly nothing that was in your own mind that morning when you got on the aircraft that you were on to go back home. Let alone the fact that you're not now going to get home for Who knows when I mean the skies were empty, you know, the radar screens empty. I mean normally is like a beehive during honey makers month during those guys were were dead. I mean, I've looked at the map Canada footage and disguise just empty napkin is here Traffic Control Center here and the radar screens just go blank just like something out of Science Fiction move. But yeah, it's it was crazy. And and then the tears start I didn't get that on camera put the camera back into my my got enough, you know. And then there were hugs and then there were tissues and then there were am I going to be okay people asked there. Where am I going to be? Okay. From what are you talking? You know, you're home. You're home just got attacked. I'm sure you are, you know, these sugar-coated lies sort of thing. Sometimes you need to or in our case. We offer you a cup of tea. Would you like a cup of tea? Let's go ahead and let's have a cup of tea cuz the neutral and getting pretty much doubles everything and you know, and then through Thursday night you have people that couldn't sleep and they'd come down to the cafeteria where you were and was one of the few times. I remember being really tired on that first night and he brought them up a cup of tea and then of course and this is not an actual line to just when you thought you're not going to make a certain age before 30 5:00 in the morning when you're sliding down the doorway going. Oh my God. I remember this Vision looking at into the into the lobby Lounge which you can see from the cafeteria and there was a man from Germany with the two little kids. They're coming up for breakfast. It's breakfast time in Germany. And then the turn around and the cafeteria is fully stocked found it for my two neighbors to grocery managers and they were working through night. They can hand sausage eggs cereal juice yogurt fruit coffee T. Read something called Champion old stale muffin from Tim's here. Enjoy known now. This one's okay. We're next thing at home scrambled eggs Fridays begs of bread dough, which were making the you gotta have when you come here for speeding people then all of a sudden factor is full look at the cafeteria. It's full of people and it's right but then the morning shift came in and I went home or to quote unquote go to bed. Never got their own. A little bit cable station and the rest as they say is wonderful history. So that was so interesting. It's been so good talking to you like the show is a roller coaster and that's one of the things I love about it the way they've done the emotions but like talking to you like feels like it's exactly the same because it is saying about the gravity of like what happened and parts of it. I just want to cry because it's just so sad and so awful and off that situation and yet and then yeah the positive steps we live in the show. That was the five days here like they were days when you were letting someone crying Junior and then next thing, you know, you're having a laugh and sharing some food or having a cold beer or whatever, you know, it's it was it was like this the whole wheat and like I said volatility of what was going to happen. Are we going home? Are we getting sent back? Are we going to be looking for a house in Gander? I mean there were people who age There's sort of devout junk and drove it home. You know one occasion I had I had helped a person make ground transportation in my office. I don't know who paid phone bill to gain from Gander to New York. She was a single mom with two kids in the neighborhood was looking after the kids. We've been 5 days in and she on Friday by Friday afternoon. We had full reservations, you know, I'd get her to the news restaurant which you're having station on the highway gas station bus to Porter Bass Ferry other boss. Oh, yeah, like if you have a sore rear end, but a time you got home because you will be sitting for day so That that line is actually your loan and not others than right. It's yeah, and without realizing it was actually a big named ugh Orchestra musician in New York. She's with the New York Philharmonic didn't realize that we got an email from her to following week who she was but the other cool part there were a lot of really important people here, but we didn't know till they went back. Like we had we had one the top Executives from Hugo Boss clothing sleep after 3. We hit the mirror Frankfurt sleeping in the gym at in Gander Collegiate. We met at the United Church Hall. I think we had a billionaire oil Sheik. Wow, we like and and then we have the common man who had saved up for 10 years to be able to go back home and see family and Now they're on their way back. You know, it was a week that the more you think back to it the more it just comes back and change one of amazing time was and how well it went cuz there were times for calling. Oh my God, but now you know and then five minutes later it fixed. It's fixed we have yeah. Yeah, it's it's it was a it was an amazing time, you know, and I mean, I remember seeing the faces when I woke all done. I mean Cloud was pretty tired and this was pretty tired and I was beyond tired and you know, but that Saturday night and Got up on Monday, but then by Wednesday, we're open again and off we went you know, and and and like sayings a Samsung. We just ran the Zamboni over the ice and we played hockey. And we played extremely interesting doesn't call it. It's it's been just one who mazing ride since all this began its own. I got a feeling there's more to come. Hundred percent but God, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we didn't do Nothin Tina and China and is very interested to find out what stfd becomes in in other languages true story used to actually put that on speeding tickets. Thank you so much for John Smith then much. Yeah. Thank you. See you soon, honey. I hope you enjoyed the episode. You can follow Brian on Instagram or Twitter at BMO double-oh-seven as usual. You can contact me at me model airplane or on Twitter and Instagram at school musical. Keep safe, and I'll see you next week.
The best of The Golden Age of Aviation: Design icons
"Wall Monaco's House few goes on holiday this week. We're looking back to our series. The Golden Age of aviation which aired last summer. You can subscribe to the whole program at Monaco. Talk come over have you get your podcast from Monaco's house view. We'll be back next Monday. You're listening to the Golden Age of aviation with Breitling chronicling and celebrating. All that was best about commercial airline I travel during the nineteen fifties sixties and Seventies. This was an era powered by the advances of the jet age then later. Inspired by the advent of supersonic supersonic travel. It's all civil aviation soar to new heights of efficiency luxury and romance so far on this series we've heard from the people we know the history the personalities and the legends inside out and today we continue to meet the enthusiasts have been fascinated by this era and all the storied worried brands that embodied the very essence of it. This is the golden age of aviation with breitling and I'm khloe potter. mid-century aviation has captured the imagination of collectors. The world over who seek out everything from old all tickets to tumblers that drinks served in to the hostess uniforms of their favorite airlines one such enthusiast is Phillip King whose collection of Pan in an memorabilia comprises over three thousand pieces keen. What the line for? Its final four years of operating in the late eighties into the early ninety s and has gone on to become an actor. Our reporter Larry Buell went to meet Philippine in the La neighborhood of las villas in Palm Springs. That's where most of my collection is right down to storage units full posters action. A pair of seats first class cabin of the seven forty seven tons of uniforms. What you have a pair of seats from the the actual photo of can share with you you from the nineteen seventies and this is interesting to me because prior to that got most airlines had stopped? Hiring men was after World War. Two the big push for hiring women came in because they were selling puts delicately sex wchs and women at the time were considered sexier than than men and it was mainly a lot of businessmen who were flying primarily. Yes so there was a reverse discrimination ammunition lawsuit filed I think it was Diaz vs Panam in the nineteen seventies the gentleman one and so they airlines were forced to hire men at that point so they design a uniform for them and you can lapels co reaching all the way to the shoulders. Yeah really why this yes I and Kinda pancer Kinda bell-bottom e yeah. I started with Panam in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight out of high school. We'll just out of high school. I had worked in restaurants. My entire life started working fulltime. When I was twelve my mother and father at a restaurant I saw an ad ad in the newspaper for Pam hiring flight attendants I still have the ad and I answered and got an interview a couple of weeks later and before I knew it? I was flying to Miami Miami for six weeks of what we jokingly referred to as Barbie Doll boot camp so we were taught that way. We were taught how to sit how to walk. Walk if we smoked smoke how to carve roast beef during turbulence serve coffee and were familiarized with customs and immigrations formalities and languages airport codes all kinds of things but a lot of it was about etiquette and how to conduct yourself. Where were you based when you worked for them? Initially it was based in London for the first six months. It was so expensive that I decided to move to Amsterdam in commute so I did that for a year. They moved back to London and then when they sold the base of operations operations to united in nineteen ninety. One I moved to Miami. I was never going to move back to the states as long as I had a job with. Panama was going to stay in Europe and transit from base to base Jason. Just try the different flying from everywhere that we had when the company went out of business in ninety one it was like losing my family in a way. We're very close knit group in London. The early two hundred and fifty flight attendants. We knew everybody in the world at that point kind of closed up for me because I had. I didn't have a car but I had access to an airplane and collecting all this memorabilia. For what now now twenty five years yes. I started collecting in ninety one when we went out of business. My first item was a watercolor add of Mary. Martin and she was thanking the captain for beautiful flight across the Atlantic in this title of the ad was how Peter Pan flew to Paris and my collection consists of about thirty five hundred items from matchbooks and uniforms to actual pieces of the interior of the aircraft. The seems as though I have a sonar I can pick out the blue. The Pan Am blue loose specifically and led to it a little bit about some of the memorabilia. Memorabilia we see here. Here's a cool looking playing bass replica. or it's a model of the seven forty seven one hundred series. You can tell that because there's only three windows on the upper upper deck here later versions had multiple windows and it was a little bit longer configuration but this really changed the industry along with the seven. Oh seven so this is a little piece of probably would have been a travel agents office to display for people to get an idea of what they might be in four and I've got a couple of menus here. These were watercolors originally done by the artist. Dong kingman he did a lot of illustrations for penam. And you can take a look at the inside of some of the things that we offered verse class. Oh very cool. It's in script there's champagne there's there's choices of wine. Cognac liquors port cocktails aperitifs. You can't really even keep all these onboard anymore. No I think things are are pretty limited. Nowadays you get a little plastic bottle and a glass with ice and if you just look over to your right. There's a silver cocktail shaker. And that's how things used to be done. So they would put ice in there and then mix drink for you each one at a time and then poured into a crystal glass. There's a silver coffee service over there so everything was done with the idea of French service in mind now when you say they did that. Were you doing that or were you working for first class. Yes the positions the duties would vary from flight to flight and you would bid for positions on on that but as a purser. You're either in charge of the First Class section or the business and economy section combined. Cool okay so so this this bacillus on this menu from one thousand nine. It's nine hundred. Fifty seven aircraft been from nineteen fifty seven. So it's memorializing the different aircraft throughout the decades that helped to design and engineer and then we have some smaller ones. I can share with you if I can find them. That was for the Business Class section a section so even with that they were still a number of choices available to the passengers so this would have been from what year from well while you were working there this was from the nineteen seventies indies. But we still had a similar situation going on so we have mushroom omelette grilled natural. What Grill Garni is Lamb chop okay. Cool and that would have been for lunch. Yes s very cool all right. What else are we seeing here? I'm looking at this it's fair. Oh it's like iron olive bronze it's They're cast door handles and I think they weigh about forty pounds. Adour handled for the exterior door probably foreign interior given the the the agency Patino on this. It may have been honest. Glass doors in what they called. The Clipper Club which is a place where businessmen first class passengers would be able to go to prior to the flight or afterwards to conduct business. Do some paperwork relax have a meeting of a cocktail. My Love Love. The Pan Am extends to entertain so for my fiftieth birthday party. My husband and best friend through a Pan Am themed birthday party for me so I have some photographs here with some of the things that he did she replicated one of the men use from first class. So this is what we we served and this would have been definitely what we would have had haddon first class the chateaubriand which used to carve to order seat side and we would cook it on board. The Aircraft Dessert Cherries Jubilee. Doesn't that require fire. Hire it does and when it was first introduced we had the dining room on the upper deck a flight attendant. I used to work with got into lots of trouble for lighting them on fire. There's so many things. Listen here. I have a giant sign in the back about twenty feet wide and four feet. Tall Pan Am spelled out in plywood painted and Panam colors it was found on Ebay. Ebeid was in the basement of a guy's house in Pittsburgh so I had a loaded on a flatbed in chip across the states. Did you love the brand come while you were working before you started were after I was aware of the Pan Am Brandon legacy right before I started and that's that's part of the reason that I chose them to apply with once I got there. I started drinking the Kool aid and it just was so fascinated with the history of the company and all the accomplishments but I fell in. I love with it and worked as much as I could all the time and whenever I had time off just get on a plane and go someplace and that's we could do that at the time. I still have blank ticket stock. And that's what we would do. We would just write in the destination where we wanted to go and if they were spaced on the plane we got on. You can't do that anymore on airlines as a flight attendant pretty much no because good luck finding an empty seat and everything is done by seniority in priority boarding so. That's it's really hard to do anymore. Why do you think Pan Am has become such a defining dining airline of the golden age of aviation. I think Pan Am became such a defining company and the imagery of Pan Am because because it was instrumental in helping to create the aviation industry from the invention of retooling of aircraft and the demands ends that one trip made of the different companies to make them safer and faster and better more luxurious than some point. Changing that so that everybody could afford to fly one point. The Pan Am Globe was the second most recognized symbol in the world next to Coca Cola and that's due to a great marketing campaign campaign. They were branding before anybody really knew what the science of that was and no matter where in the world you flew there was always a Panam office. There was a great a poster of the Antarctic and said it's easier to tell you about the places that we don't fly. Is there an item or two. That really kind of sum up everything about your experience or their legacy. I don't know if there's a single item that would sum up my experience or the legacy of the company company but there are a couple of items that I'm still looking out for one of them is the uniform that was used in the series. I know they had to replicate that. And that one's a really hard one to find because at the time when a flight attendant would retire or passed away. They were no longer working for the company. They were required to turn the uniforms back in so a lot of them were destroyed or given to homeless shelters. So that's a rare item that you're looking for are other collectors looking for that as well. My biggest competition. There's a friend of Mine Kelly Cusak who also worked for Panam and he's in New York. He has about twelve thousand items in his collection but is he will tell you. A lot of those are stir sticks in matches sow now but I knew he has. He has one of those uniforms complete in in great condition. And I'm on the search for that. Do you ever think that will return to this Golden area of Aviation I don't know that we'll ever return to this era. V8 This golden era of aviation and there are a couple of carriers like Emirates and Qatar. Who have these private suites and butlers and gold-plated fixtures and for those that can afford that? I think it's a wonderful experience but it doesn't seem like people people are interested in doing that kind of thing anymore. They just want to get where they're going. And everybody has a personal device now become watch movies on their phone or their tablet. Or they're working they just don't want to be bothered with the idea of having to get someplace anymore. So but that was part of the the allure is that you've got on board the aircraft and you were treated like a King or queen and once you got there you arrested and relaxed and at least that was the idea Thanks to Larry Buell for that interview to Italy now. With its distinctive Green White and red tail fin and iconic lettering as logo Alitalia Alitalia boast one of the world's most iconic liveries one that is also seen as being quintessentially Italian which is ironic as it was designed by an American despite the ups and downs of this flag. Carrier's fortunes over the years the Alitalia's fleet still very much. Waves the flag when it comes to country brand identity argues David it pleasant. Monaco's Ram correspondent tryin picture the classic image of an ideal airport. In your mind's eye where a Roehi neatly aligned tailfins stretches into the distance like a United Nations of flag carriers this image would surely include the red white and green green of Alitalia it is a sector that is prone to change with budget regional airlines vying for passengers and in an age of websites an an advert plastered onto airplanes. Italy's national are more often than not nationalized airline stands out for livery that has consistently fed better than its rivals. Perhaps I'm being an airline nostalgic and I should declare that I follow various Alitalia Talia fan groups and have a secret collection of in-flight Paraphernalia. In fact I might as well admit it. I'm a bona fide. Alitalia enthusiast there. I've I've said it. But unlike fans of other retro classics of the Skies. I don't have to spend hours online or at flea markets to replenish my collection or to to satisfy my thirst for good airline design. I simply have to go to my nearest airport. which happens to be Alitalia's hub? Leonardo Davinci here in Rome more commonly known as well. If we're going to be real aches. Let's just use the IRA ta code which is FC. If we try to be a little more objective it is surely this sense of permanence. The fact that Alitalia design is just so recognizable and has fundamentally changed so very little in nearly half a century that that makes it so successful. This story begins in one thousand nine hundred sixty seven. Lina added Italina. The Italian Airlines Company had cleverly given it self deport Manteaux of Alitalia Ali being the Italian word for wings creating a punchy wings of Italy name that is already attack line. The company decided that it was time to modernize its it's identity. It's winged our logo. Although charming was looking increasingly out of place in the jet-age Alitalia called for rebrand that spoke of professionalism modernity and that was unmistakably Italian. It's perhaps fitting that often an outside. I is needed when it comes comes to nation branding and graphic designer. Walter Landau who set up land or associates in San Francisco in nineteen forty. One is a case in point. London was to go on to design some of the world's most iconic airline bronze British Airways Cathay Pacific Singapore Airlines and Thai to name but a few but Alitalia Elia was really his first masterpiece of the skies with punchy attractive name Landau was able to create quite literally an eighth grade design. The A of Alitalia was boldly emblazoned onto the tail thing. In fact no other airline has a tailfin design that is so totally integral to the name and brand and a heavyset stylized helvetica font exceeds a welcoming nature with a modern refinement. Exactly how Italians wanted to see themselves. Further grace came from the sporty but sheikh racing green stripe that followed the line of the airplane windows. Along the length of the fuselage before smoothly joining joining up with the bottom of the tailfins elegant big a London livery was launched in one thousand nine hundred sixty nine and was an immediate success Alitalia became the symbol the modern booming Italy. However by the turn of the millennium the airline itself had become a loss maker and has very rarely been able to support itself ever since ants but the efficiency and style of land does livery remains two thousand fifteen in fact so lander associates modernized wolters inception and gone? Is that Green Stripe for the world. Now simple equals sophisticated says the lead designer as someone who owns several scale Alitalia muddles with green stripe included. I have to disagree entirely. Nothing expresses the Alitalia Heyday more than the nineteen. One thousand nine hundred musical number which features Italy's very leggy Blonde Diva Rafael etc.. Doing the Paso Dobley. On the wing of an Alitalia Boeing seven four seven even whilst singing the old Italian Crooner Vlada. Sometimes I like to Imagine Raffaella still there dancing on the tarmac when my plane is taxiing. Seo I did warn you about nostalgia for monocle Enron. I'm I'm David pleasant. So next report lands us on the East East Coast of Canada at Gander International Airport on September. The eleventh two thousand and one is the. US closed its as base in the wake of the terrorist attacks on new. We all can the Pentagon this airport had to swing into action. Gone to international APP was once one of the busiest refueling ports of call in North America before jets jets could cross the Atlantic non. Stop on nine eleven. It came back to life as rerouted flights were forced to land there nearly doubling ganders population. It wasn't the first time Gan International Airport had been at the center of events the arrivals hall at Gander in its Heyday. In the nineteen sixties became known for its celebrity visitors visitors. Louis Armstrong Bob hope and Frank Sinatra are among the stars said to have serenaded passengers in the terminal during layovers and now it stands hands as a testament to mid century design. It's now a shadow of its former self and there are faint rumors that it may one day be considered for demolition. Monaco's Thomas Lewis this reports now on the Golden Age of Ganda International Airport on the northeast tip of North America on an island empowerment. I next time my name is James. Severs and media the Executive Director of the Association of Heritage Industries Newfoundland and Labrador Gander really began as well. Initially it was nothing it was known as Hattie Patties camp and it was just an abandoned sawmill along the Newfoundland railway line during the early days of transatlantic transportation the British this government was looking for a spot where they could further develop transatlantic air flight and they chose Gander so they built this massive airport at the time it was the biggest runways in the world so they finish that in about nineteen thirty eight nineteen thirty thirty nine World War Two breaks out and very quickly. Britain began losing aircraft and Canada. The United States were building aircraft aircraft. They needed to get them. Across to Britain and Gander became the landing spot for aircraft that were on route from North America to Britain as a result of that Gandhi grew into this enormous airport and basically a town newfoundland was more than a country. It was a way you life Newfoundland. We talk about rural communities being out ports because they were outside of Saint John's the capital all and they were built around ports or local harbors but gander really was always an airport. The airport was built first and then the town literally grew up around the runway and their stories of kids actually having to to cross the runways to get to school because literally the town was on top of at the airport and then after the war ended all the technology that had been developed for transatlantic flight was converted to commercial. Oh flight and because Gandhi was there because it was the last jumping off point across the Atlantic for North American flights in the first landing point. If you were coming from Europe it became known as the crossroads of the world and anybody traveling pretty much across. The transatlantic in the postwar period stopped in Gandhi. Twenty again among the old leave. It's ready to the Indo boarding the era the international departures lounge again it was built pretty shortly after Newfoundland joined Canada and Canada's saw this as an opportunity unity to build a space where visitors who were arriving in the country for you know for their first glimpse would get the impression of candidates being in a forward thinking cutting edge modern country and so an incredible amount of money for the time I think about three million dollars was spent creating leading the space. which would wow people? And so every kind of well known or cutting edge designer of the day was employed in creating leading the furnishings. I mean you have Charles. And Ray eames Robin Bush. Arne Jacobsen there was incredible. Drexel flooring and they commissioned tioned large scale really impactful contemporary art so they had Canadian painter can Lockheed created this enormous mural. I think it gets about seventy feet long called flight and it's allegories which today people recognize as an incredible piece of Canadian art at the time it was incredibly controversial because it was modern. They really took a lot of risks in creating a super modern space and it created an impression on the people and from locals pointed minded. You it was a place to see and be seen in the nineteen fifties sixties airport security. Like we know it today was nonexistent assistant. So when you talk to people of a certain age and Gander. They will tell you. Stories about the family's going to the airport and sitting reading terminal watching people come and go and there would be politicians world rulers celebrities Feinstein and went through their the Beatles. Fidel Castro pretty much. Anybody who was traveling transatlantic route was stopping through Gander. And it created this sense the gander that was in the center of new pilot was really into central. One Gentleman told me the story story on the terminal and Mohammed Ali's and his wife were there and she had a problem with his glasses and the gentleman from Gander you know sat down with with the Ellison and fixed glasses and ended up having a long conversation with it wasn't just like people said. Oh look there's someone famous local people we're having kind of these personal interactions. We were kind of the WHO's who of the world and because of the people moving through it gave Gander a flavor flavor and a sense of place which was totally different from Newfoundland. The store owners were going to the fashion capitals of the world to buy their inventory. Because the clientele coming through. Were looking for that kind of stuff. There's a story of Frank Sinatra going out into Gander to buy his daughter a skirt. It just seems so bizarre today when I think most people think of Newfoundland is kind of being a bit of a backwater terms of world culture. Yeah I mean we've got our own fantastic culture but we may not be cutting edge in relation to New York or London but in the day Gander was kind of it had its finger on the pulse of the world world really during the later sixties when jet technology analogy became more developed within a very short period of time it was no longer necessary for jets to land and refuel. They could make the trip from New York. ORC or Toronto or wherever just nonstop for Awhile Gander. Airport turned into a bit of town but as always happens with gander it seems to reinvent itself to fit the world operates in eventually gander became an essential stopping point for aircraft from in Communist countries who couldn't fly through US airspace. And so what you had was all these planes going from Havana to Russia and they were all landing in Gander and so traffic picked up again but it was a very different group of people coming through and for a long period of time Gander became the defection capital of the world. And there was a joke that the fences around the Gander runways were to keep the Moose out and the defectors in and it's really fascinating history. That's mirrored the changes in the world rounded back again next year you're always welcome and Newfoundland on this series so far we've discovered all sorts of fascinating facts that form part of this legendary period of aviation for a bit of fun before we end today. We've enlisted the help of the writer. And Mazda of Trivia Mark Mason to run through some of the quirkiest in-flight stories sometimes aviation gave rise to great cultural moments and late nineteen sixty six. Paul McCartney she had been on holiday with Malevich's who is the Beatles roby and Jane Asher was then still McCartney's girlfriend lever flying back from Kenya and they were just having a chat McCartney was getting to the point where he was annoyed about the Beatles getting attention time and it started to have the idea of some anonymous for pseudonyms rather the band where they could not the Beatles they can be something else and they were talking about that and at the same time they got their food in the mail and the little sachets with s and p written an acoustic and guess what they were but my eleven one of those moments when we were little bit blankly went blanket pick McCartney went salt and pepper and as he said it. That's where he got the idea for sergeant in pepper. That's the name of the band that came to McCartney always likes his His flying the first time ever that he met Frank Sinatra was on a flight and he was so overcome with excitement meeting the legendary Frank Sinatra blurted out. We'll just wait till my stepmother. Here's that I've met you and then was instantly. Embarrassed embarrassed to eat being uncool at meeting celebrity lineup and was ready sorry and just felt embarrassed. Jam and Sinatra Comedy ninety-six kid. I was exactly the same the first time I met John Wayne Musicians obviously a famous flying around bb King. The legendary Blues Guitarist was so worried about his guitar. Wanted to take such good care of it that his guitar is Big Gibson Guitar which was always called Lee Sale. You went through a few over the years but it was called him Lucille because that was the name if a woman that started a fight between two guys and a bb King geic back in his early days but then when aviation came along and he was flying around with with Lucille. He started to call the Guitar Mystic Guitar because he booked to in to the flight he would pay for a seat next to his so that Lucille Mister Guitar whereas Qatar was often billed on the check details could sit next to him and Mr Guitar Nice and safe on the one of my favorite stories of pure vindictiveness. On a plane comes through awesome wells. who was once forced onto a a plane? He was almost literally kidnapped by the film director. Vincent Colder and colder son Michael because wells at signed a contract with them. I moved refusing to honor it so they literally literally went grabbed him and forced him onto a flight and wells reluctantly agreed that he had to go and do what. He is being paid to contractor today. So you sitting sitting on this flight on the seat between Vincent Korda an awesome wealth. Vincent cornered Huge basket delicious fruit. That just Vincent Korda. Put the fruit on the plane between green an awesome wells and then nodded off and he woke up a little while later to find that wells. who was still furious about the position? He had deliberately taken a single bite out of each item of fruit and the basket so rendering the whole lot inedible just to get his convincing quarter slides thirteenth nine one thousand nine hundred five th the day of live aid and those of us that can remember it will know that Phil Collins played at the London Gig at Wembley and then flew across the Atlantic on Concord. Which of course back in those days go back in time because it took three hours to fly across the Atlantic and the time difference is five hours so it went back in time and enabled him to go and play at the Philadelphia Philadelphia Gig as well and so he's on the plane sitting across the Atlantic and he hasn't noticed the woman sitting a few rows away from him on concl- because because she's not made up but she's heard what's happening and she comes up to Phil Collins and only when she comes up to him? Does it dawned on him that share and she was liberty keeping herself very low key and heaven knows as what share have been doing for the previous few weeks but she had not known that live aid was going on she came on. What's going on in the explainer about the GIG? And she realized that the GIG was going on in Philadelphia later that day and she said do you think you could get onto the GIG and Phil Collins. When you don't need me to get you on your show? Just go and he. He said she went to the toilet. She came back from the toilet. She was share. The makeup was on the hair was done. She got some new clothes on and he said he went. And did he's been at a GIG and then he was watching at the end of the the American league and there she was. She managed to get herself onto live aid. So we're not the concord show would not have been on probably the most famous GIG that brings us to the end of this episode of the Golden Gordon Age of aviation with brightening to find out more about the program you can head to Monaco Dot com subscribe on Itunes soundcloud and all your other favorite audio sources this program was produced by Holly Fischer and I'm Khloe Potter. Join US again in two weeks time. But until then wherever you are on wherever you're headed next bomb voyage
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"This is an ABC podcast. Beverly best was always obsessed with flying and although there were almost no female commercial airline pilots at the time beverly was incredibly unshakably determined and so she wasn't that surprised in ninety six when she became the first female captain at American Airlines. I don't think however. Beverly was expecting someone to make Broadway musical about her life or more specifically about an incident that she was a very big pat off. That occurred nearly twenty years ago. The musical is called. Come from away and it's about what happened when a commercial plane that beverly was piloting was forced to land unexpectedly in a tiny little town in. Canada. Cold Ganda Beverly. The crew and the passengers were stranded for a week in Ganda while the people of that town came to their rescue with incredible kindness linked. Thank you for having had. Did you become fixated on flying? I don't know. Isn't that just the craziest story in the world? But I honestly cannot remember a time in my life when I wasn't obsessed with airplanes. I mean my mother used to say when she pushed me in the stroller. If an airplane went overhead that I would kick my feet and point at A. I don't remember that part but I do remember from really about four years old. Just being obsessed with really flying not even airplanes so much but I want it to physically fly so yeah when you were little. Did you fly much as a passenger I did? My mother was from New York City and I was raised in. Fort Myers Florida so we often flew up to New York and it was. It was the best experience of my life every time. So what do you think he wanted to pod about rather than just a passenger? Well I guess there's no greater thing than you know having control of an airplane like that and of course you know one thing led to the next and to be able to fly the largest twinjet that American operated the triple. Seven was just the pinnacle of my career. Now you've just arrived in Australia from the United States. Does it kill you to fly as a passenger on one of these planes would much rather be flying the thing I would much rather be flying it. I'm a good passenger. I never sit up there and thank all the pilots should be doing this or that to me but yeah but I would much rather have a window seat looking out the front yes does. I've often wondered. Does that. Does that change the whole experience of flying having the front window to look out of a joint seven seven seven? Well all pilots would tell you that we have the best seat in the house to me about where you grew up. You mentioned with somewhere in Florida kind of a place was this yes. I grew up in a small town. Called Fort Myers. It's on the West Coast of Florida. Had about thirty thousand people when I was growing up and my family and I were involved in the horse business. We raised and trained quarter horses. And I'm an only child so I Grew up hunting in the everglades with my father on horseback at night with a rifle over my shoulder and I was in fashion shows with my mom so I kind of grew up doing everything. I played both roles For my parents and I didn't know there was such thing called gender discrimination. Did you have to help out with the horses? Oh I did. It was a family project. We didn't have a trainer was justice and every day after school. I'd go straight to the ranch and clean stalls and work the horses. Yes you mentioned hunting it not. How did that work to me about yeah? We had a hunting camp in the everglades for about sixty years and And that's how I actually got into the horse. Business is my dad. Bought a couple of Just regular horses that we hunted off of and one thing turn into the next and of course then we wanted bigger and better horses and that's how we ended up being competitive with them and going to horse shows all over the country. At that time you have plenty in common with your dad very much so yes. My father. Thought I couldn't do anything wrong. And he just loved that I would hunt and fish and do everything with him. Seem much of a link between flying applying and running a host of other similarities. Then well you know I never thought much about it until I started flying for the airlines and it is amazing. How many other women airline pilots talked to who have come from a horse background and I think if there was ever a survey done that it would be astounding to find out how many of us share the horses and and airplanes. And when you think about it you control a twelve hundred pound animal with your feet your legs and your hands and that is exactly how you fly an airplane. Do you think this some similarity in spatial awareness. Because when you run driving a car it's kind of a two day thing you can sort of go forward and backward side side but when you're in horses a bit more up and down there's will absolutely it is and I just you know at honestly don't know if there is a correlation but I I have learned over the years. A lot of us have done both a habit delicacy of touch as well like the gentleness and in fact when I have shared that story with male pilots a lot of them will say exactly that women are so gentle with their hands as you must be with a horse and they say that will you fly much the same way so. I had never really thought about that. It was the guys who interjected that into my thought process. How old were you when you started to learn to? Fly was nineteen and I really wanted to start when I was sixteen. I begged my father to take flying lessons but he sort of put it on hold. It's not that he didn't encourage me. He encouraged me with everything that I did. But he wanted to maintain my interest in the horses and didn't want me to get distracted with flying so and I love for college. We sold the ranch and when I came home for my first summer break I got my car. Drove straight to the airport. Signed up for flying lessons I took my first lesson came home. I walked into the House and told my parents I would fly for the rest of my life. Why did wow? Yes so unusual. That's really unusual that someone that vocationally directed in life that you have that that unshakably determined to flood and that's very true. I know it's unusual when you did start to fly was at what you'd hoped it would be every bit and more. It was certainly a bit of a struggle in the beginning. Because you have to have thousands of hours and a lot of experience to even apply to the airlines. I did ninety percent of my flying in Texas. Which is where. I went to college and and it was really hard getting jobs. Because they're just there wasn't a prevalence of women flying anything. At that time it was the early seventies and I worked out of a huge airport and there were only two women pilots at the time. And so I got my first flying job. Flying bodies for mortician and the airplane has small. I flew one body at the time. They were not in a casket because the Cargo door was not big enough to fit a casket into the airplane so the two backseats were removed. The Right Front seat was folded down and I had to climb over their head to get to my seat wild well. That's the job that no one else wanted. Well that's pretty much the reason I got it because none of the guys wanted to do it and you are with that did you. Did you mind? I was so proud of the job because it was the first time that somebody was paying me to fly an airplane and I wasn't having to pay my parents weren't having to pay for flight lessons so I actually thought it was great. I have to ask. Did you have conversations with the person in the plane mixed you? That's bit you know. The the gentleman who owned the airplane was actually a mortician and He didn't own a funeral home. He he embalmed bodies so every body that I- transport it had been bombed so they really never did anything they didn't set up. They didn't make noises they didn't they. Were very well behaved. And I had a sheet over on and I just put my charts over the sheet or I mean is. Would you chat with them though? Would you say it's no and I was always happier once. The body was delivered an out of the airplane. And then complain. Those guys do they. Don't they're great? Passengers tremendous was it a well-paid Gig five dollars an hour or so fast Thomas Really. Yeah so what other kind of work is there. In the beginning. I was a flight instructor. I did quite a bit of charter work. I was chief Pilot Charter Department at our flight. School I've flu for two corporations. I flew for an insurance company at a whole pipe. Wholesale Company and then My last job. Prior to American Airlines interviewing me I went to Dallas influence night freight five nights a week from nine nine till five. In the morning I flew cancelled checks airplane part for Rockwell and Just anything that had to be hauled in the airplane is a different flying at night. It's nice flying at night. There's a lot less traffic. There is little more stable fewer thunderstorms because in our area. We call it thunderstorm Allie from Texas to Oklahoma Kansas. So it's kind of a tough area upright in and the thunderstorms have a tendency to die out when the sun goes down. So it's nice flying to self so that's where the pretty. When did you feel you'd finally made? It really made it as a part when you got the job with America was when I got the job. Sure with American up until that point. You know you're just I knew I wanted to fly the biggest airplanes and back then women couldn't get into the military as pilots so that wasn't an option and there were so few women who had been hired by the Airlines. They're only fourteen other women flying for the US airlines. When I was hired by American and so yes that was it but you know getting through flight engineer scores was very challenging. Very hard It would have been easier to start as a co-pilot but back in the day we started on seven twenty sevens and you started as a flight engineer. And that's a tough school. Was there a bit of a fuss made about the fact that you've been made the first female? Captain was American Airlines proud of the fact that they publicized. They did. They were fairy excited. They were very supportive. Very much behind me and you know everything that the airlines is based on seniority. So it wasn't that I did anything special. It was just my turn seniority wise and the fact that I was a female was kind of a big deal. Americans the largest airline in the world and We were pretty big back then so it was a big deal to them. It doesn't sound like you were going to be deterred from this but did you. Did you have to crash through various here? Did you have to sort of push through some opposition from the boys club that it used to be well and they would say. It's still very prevalent today which I find so hard to believe you think we've made a lot more progress. I don't think I've ever heard a woman's voice sang. Is Your captain speaking identity? I've ever heard but you know what you may not notice because when you are sitting in the back of the airplane as soon as a female voice comes on. You automatically are geared to think. It's a flight attendant. So oftentimes you don't pay attention is not the flights over. You know that you're walking on you. Go Oh there was a female pilot and we are often like during delays a lot of times. The passengers will say well. The captain didn't say anything about why we're delayed and the flight attendants say yes. She made five announcements but they tuna south so is not interesting. It's a weird ideas women on suited for. What do you expect to lift up the plane or something some? What's what was looking. They don't even know what that would that was all about. We ever discouraged. Utah distant this guy before the airlines absolutely. I would be embarrassed to tell any of my coworkers that I wanted to fly for the airlines. Because they would laugh and they would think it was ridiculous and offer to. Oh fresher ambition because there just weren't any nobody ever saw doing woman airline pilot. That's horrible I stopped saying it is what I did and I just pressed on and logged every flight hour that I could and I knew in my heart that that was what I was GonNa do. But I just didn't know a share it with my contemporaries and then once I got hired America the guys that American treated me so beautifully and were so respectful that I was there almost thirty two years. And if you made me come up with a a derogatory story I would have to fish for one. They were great to me so this brings us to the morning of September. Two Thousand and one was that morning. Lock to begin with well. I was actually an instructor pilot and the co-pilot was on a training trip with me as his instructor so it was his first trip on the triple seven. He's a very experienced pilot and had been flying other airplanes at American but it was his first trip on this airplane. What does that make sense? That's the biggest line seven. Yeah well it's the largest twin-engine jets not bigger than the Qantas three eighty or anything. But it's the largest twin-engine chat issues like a skyscraper on its side. Isn't it block right? They do and when you walk in and it's like a massive amount of space. It's a beautiful jet but anyway we left Paris that morning. It was beautiful. We even commented on not a cloud in the sky the sky was a turquoise blue and we were flying from Paris to Dallas when over the metal at the North Atlantic. When we first heard on our air to air frequent say that we monitor that one of the towers had been hit. And what did you think when you heard that I thought was like many people thought it was light airplane? And Not that. That's not a terrible thing but it never even crossed our mind that it was an airline. So you went. Oh that's terrible and we were eating lunch at the time and our feeder propped up. We talked about it and went back to eating lunch and then it was about twenty minutes later. We heard that the second tower had been hit and with that came the word airliner and terrorism. And that's that's when things began to change drastically for us we continued westbound and I called the lead flight attendant up and it was things were happening pretty quickly at this time because we Then here that. New York's airspace was closing and didn't really affect us because we don't go through their airspace. Coming back from Paris from Paris to Dallas. Yes when we come in way over northern Canada we play great circle route. So we don't go through New York and then when all of the US airspace was close. We knew. Then that we were gonNA divert somewhere in Canada. I don't think I'm just trying to remember how things we're in. Two thousand one passengers wouldn't have done with. I wouldn't have had any connection to the ground. Not at that time and very few people back then even went to Europe cell phones and we had no way to recharge so very few people. Even moving landed had access to cell phones so having received this terrible news in the cockpit. You getting instructions then or were you having this sort of figure out what to do next yourselves now. We figured it out ourselves because the company was very busy grounding all of the domestic airplanes you know we had hundreds of airplanes that had to be put on the ground immediately in the US and remember. We've just lost two airplanes so the international airline airplanes were pretty much on their own which we were okay with that we don't we don't need dispatch or the company telling us what to do. Were able to make those decisions just trying to put a suspect. In the mindset of that moment we didn't really know who had done it and it was a bit like lightning bolts coming out of the sky because it wasn't just the World Trade Center was the Pentagon was worth the other one on the question in the field in Pennsylvania and there was room was one on the way to the White House and and the remember watching on TV and it was late at night in Australia. And could this be al Qaeda because Al Qaeda had attacked the embassies in Africa and the US worship as well? But we didn't really know at that point. Did the thought. Cross your mind that you might be something The there was a potential danger on board. You apply you know. A lot of people have asked me that and I must say that never really went through my mind until afterwards and then it was when people started saying Gosh you. None of us knew who is in the back of our airplanes. But because they had all departed from domestic cities. I think that I consider there to be less potential from Paris to Dallas. It was more of our airplanes that were flying trans cons heavily loaded with fuel and so I must say that I really did not think about that until way. After the fact it didn't enter my mind at the point. When I learned about the attacks the techs terrifying was everyone able to keep a level head a mix between you and the and the cabin crew. Yes and you know that was one of the most important things is the PA that I was GonNa make to the passengers. I had to think long and hard about what I was gonNA say. I didn't want to say too much and recognize at know too much at the time and I had to protect the flight attendants because they were going to have the aftermath as to how the pastures reacted. Whatever I said I'm locked behind the cockpit door. Some pretty secure so I ran the PA by my lead flight attendant had told her exactly what I was going to say. She was okay with it. And that's the PA. I made at told the passengers. The truth is said that there'd been a crisis in the United States. All of the airspace was closed. We were going to be diverting to Gander Newfoundland and when we landed. I would get back with them with more information as it developed and really. That was all I knew at the time but I wasn't GonNa make up a mechanical problem or something that I had undo once we landed in Gander and they were fun. Head of the Kevin Respond to this was the must have been nonetheless. A causes what crosses right And they were great they they did not cause any problems and When we got on the ground again I didn't have a lot to tell him but I'd told him you know whatever We knew at that point. And oddly enough we were getting what little information we had from the BBC. That was that was the radio that we were able to listen to on the ground because we were there. We were on their plan for twenty eight hours total before we got off. I think trying to put my head in that space passenger. You'd think the pilots telling us the truth. Now it's all rally around the pilot. Actually you really would think you you know because they tried to look out for us now because in. They're telling us the truth. So you mentioned the the need to divert. And how did you arrive? Upon way you would divert the plane. It was an order as soon as we reach fifty degrees west. Longitude which is where we're able to actually come in contact with Gander control. We received orders which is very unusual. Because we're going to divert an airliner. We usually coordinate that with our company dispatchers and the captain of the airplane. That day was most unusual and as soon as we talked again where control dates ordered us to land immediately and Gander. I thought we would go to one of the larger cities like Toronto Montreal. But that wasn't the case. So where on earth is Gander Canada Gander boy? It's a little tiny town in Newfoundland On the rock as they say it is on an island and it is just one of the most northeastern points that you can be an in North America and You know the runways are great. It's an airport. That was actually built by the US back during World War. Two and it was the last refueling stop for all of the airplanes that were going to Europe during that time so they are used to handling a lot of airplanes however not wide bodies and on nine eleven we were thirty eight wide bodies that landed there and nearly consumed the whole airport. Wow so technically would landing there for the be different within when you're landing at an there's not used to taking a across. The landing is not different. The runways are great. They're wide there long. No problems so there's tons. Tiny town had a an astro. That could take seven seven seventy. Yes yes and really. The town was built as a result of the airport so the airport is what the town is all about but the infrastructure is not very big like the terminal is quite small. There's not a lot of ramp area and by the time I land know. Airplanes are parked like sardines nose to tail. They're on every taxiway every runway. The the one we're using the land on and so they ended up putting me on the general aviation ramp area which The surface was not load bearing for an airplane. The size of a triple seven and the temperatures were unseasonably warm during that time so my airplanes started sinking into the asphalt and my tire marks are still there today. Did you have to jettison fuel before you land? I did I did. I was seven thousand pounds over my Max landing weight and so we jettison seven thousand pounds of fuel. And that's what made me number thirty six hundred thirty eight to land. Is it took a while to do that? To thirty eight pastula across landing at this tiny little regionally airport in Newfoundland Canada. Wow did you have this? Potential crisis in the back of your mind was a something you just had this. September eleventh crosses in your mind was that something was intruding on your thoughts that you just have to put to one side and could you do that. Yes I did have to just put it to the side. Because at that time I had a hundred and fifty six passengers that had to be taken care of I had a crew of fifteen that had to be managed and I would say we operated minute by minute hour by hour day by day and just managed. What was the information we had at hand? Which wasn't a whole lot a Danda if what looked like as you would coming into this tiny place well in the airport is actually said quite nice. The terminal looks like something left over from the nineteen fifties. I say it looks like George. Jetsons or the Flintstone. Wow Yes all. The furniture is real low to the ground in. It's like orange and lime green and you know it's such a unique place and when we got off the airplane the morning of September twelfth at about seven thirty in the morning we walked into the terminal. And you know as just table after table just full of food and indicated to me that every stove in Gander had been turned on and operating all night long. I just need to know more about landing the plane though. It's because I'm just gonNA fascinated by this. But how tricky was it landing and parking the plane when you've got like thirty five or six other planes? They had partners to tile right. It was on final approach. I'm coming into runway Tutu and the very first thing I noticed is There's a highway that runs perpendicular to the approach end of that runway and the left or the right. There were literally cars that lined the highway. It looked like everybody in Newfoundland had come out to the airport because I heard about what happened. And they had never seen that many airliners on the ground in Gander on time you know. Usually one might land there because they have a mechanical problem or something but never that many at one time parking was little tricky for me because I was so late to land That by the time I parked on the general aviation ramp. There was not a lot of room for me to turn that airplane around. So that was a little tricky. What time of day was this when you arrived? I got there at about ten fifteen on the morning of September eleven. And how many hours had you already been in the Air Force? I must eight hours. So what happened after you talked? Well after I parked they came onto the airplane. And said you will not be getting off until tomorrow. So we knew we were there for all day all night and didn't know what time we'd get off on September twelve but so we're on the airplane. Twenty eight hours total wine. We finally deplaned. You're listening to conversations with Richard CIDER. Find out more about the conversations podcast just hit to ABC dot net dot edu slash conversations. Loan Scibilia saying that once. You've you've got the plane on the ground in this field. You would tell that everyone had to stay on the plane for another twenty four hours or thereabouts another day. Why why why? Why why what did enough to stay on the plank? Well the only way they get the passengers to where they were staying. Which you know was everywhere. They only have a total of five hundred motel rooms in all of Gander so they had to be transported to people's houses Schools Churches fire stations. They slept on the fire station floor. They were everywhere but they had to use school buses to transport him and the school bus drivers were on strike man so Once they came off strike was when they started transporting everybody to where they were going to be going so once they were on the grant everyone started to get more information about the Texan. What Heaven and how about you? When did you sort of say this terrifying images of the towers collapsing? It was probably thirty hours after the attacks happen because it wasn't until we actually got to her motel room at the Comfort Inn where we were able to see the images on TV so it was really quite a long time before we saw anything. Not many people who've had bubble funds or certainly not as many now that wouldn't have as many cellphones than back. In that time very few people had a couple of my first class passengers had cell phones which is One that I borrowed actually call home and talk to my husband and we landed at ten fifteen in the morning. I didn't actually talk to him till about four thirty in the afternoon and and there wasn't even a way to charge the cell phones on the airplanes then so everybody was running out of battery power and and and you know there wasn't much communication during that time so everyone's still stuck on the in front of the die. What was the what was the mood in the Kevin? Lock with people getting emotional. Well we were able to open the doors of the airplane. By of course nobody could leave. We had barrier straps and the folks and Gander delivered water neutral grain bars. You know they delivered diapers formula. Everything you can imagine to the airplanes I mean not hot meals or anything like that but You know they they did everything they could even smoking patches because you don't think about the passengers you know who wanna smoke and they can't so they tried to do everything they filled. Two thousand prescriptions and didn't charge a dime forum. Two thousand prescriptions for passengers. Stuck on those plans. Did anyone stop to panic in the cabin? No I had a problem with one light issue from France and she was wanting to send in first class and claiming that she was claustrophobic and The flight attendants had dealt with her for a while and then they came up and got me and asked if I would go back and talk to her which I did and she settled down for a while and she started causing problems again so I called the the mounties and they came on board with handcuffs and they said if you think if you think this triple seven is claustrophobic. Wait till you see the four by four. Sell that we're going to put you if you don't behave and she was. Well behaved the rest time on. Yes so they all. I'm cluster fed by classics for me. Either okay all right so you for more than a day then thereabouts and you would have had enough meals so that people are bringing from Gander bringing meals on board the plane. What about the? What about the toilet situation interesting that you should bring that up because the airplane came to me in Paris? With four of the Eight Lavatories. In Up yes so Fortunately we were not full. The airplane holds two hundred forty-seven passengers. I only have one hundred fifty six on board that day but they the Gander folks were emptying the labs we were on the ground so it really didn't cause any problem at all. Do you feel still responsible for those passengers. Even they'd landed them safely without a doubt. Yes and every day while we were in Gander. I would go over and brief them and not that. I had anything new to tell them because I really didn't. But they wanted face time and because they spoke so many languages I had to take my flight attendants with me. Who who spoke you know French and whatever other language they spoke So we would go over every day just so they can at least see the flight crew and I think that was somewhat comforting for them even though we didn't have a lot of new information to share with them. So what happened when you allowed off the plane into the terminal? When we went to the terminal I was. I think that was the first time that I realized we had land landed in a very unique place and when I saw all the food that they had prepared all night long. I couldn't believe it. They you a plastic bag and said just go. Take anything you want. Just it was like Halloween. You took your plastic bag and you picked up all the food and muffins and fruit and brownies and everything that they had made and because it was early in the morning it was indicative that they had been up all night long. This there was on light on tables or something right now. It wasn't tables of Abel's table food and that was at that was when I realized that we were in a very special place. Was Your Company. American Airlines came to speak with you during this period now had very little communication with American during that time you know they were so busy with our domestic operation and and I suppose Yes yes and we'd lost to airplanes so they had a lot a lot on their plate and and being international airplane. We were able to pretty much handle ourselves. You mentioned that you had taken to a much Eventually strange to be aligned in after all that time in a motel room it was however I traded my room sort of like a command post and I had the room that was closest to the front desk of the Motel and I pretty much left my door open the whole time because you then become a counselor somewhat you know to your flight attendants and crew. I had one flight attendant. Who was missing her ten year old daughters tenth birthday and it doesn't sound like a big deal but it is when you're a mom and so. I was able to talk with my flight attendants about all of that and so we were really comfort to each other. We ate every meal together. We watched the images on TV for the first time together. And I think it was very important that we we share that bond and we went on to share it for the rest of our careers with the airline. Whenever we've flew together you know. Of course you never flew together as a group again but when you flew with each other you knew that you had experienced something as crew that not a lot of others had had gone through. You mentioned that that but on the ground with what thousands and thousands of passengers in this tiny town where on earth with I accommodated heck with the town. Put Him up well. It was a difficult and they had to actually use other little towns in that area because Gander could only handle so many they have total of five hundred motel rooms. And that's it. And so they used places like Gambro and Appleton nores arms. North arms is like two miles away but They had to use every area that could find they went to the Salvation Army Camp. They were everywhere and the school buses transported them. Was everyone confined to the town for the security reasons for while with I the have to stay in town until they could be get security clear. Well we were initially when we got off the airplane. We were registered by the Red Cross and that was very important because they had to keep all the people from each airplane together. You could not defect. You could not leave because if you did they would blow up all the bags so airplane so each airplane had leap with the same people that they came in with that rule of. I'm not sure I don't know the answer that but they did on my mind because I begged them every day not to defect so eventually you flew home on September fifteen. That's four days after the the incident was like to land back in Dallas. And that. Oh boy you know it's It's interesting because during the five days it would have never entered my mind to shed tear. I mean I I was at work. I had a job to do at crude. Manage pastures to manage. Crying wasn't something that ever came across my mind however when I landed in Dallas. I'm rolling down the runway. For whatever reason I turn my head to the right. And I saw the biggest American flag that had been put up between our two terminals. And that's the first time that tears really ran down my cheeks and it was a flag that had never been there before it was the largest flag. I've ever seen and that was when it finally hit me and so when I'm taxing to the gate That was the first time that there was That became emotional for me but it was over then. My job was done. I got my passengers home safe and sound and then in that was when I realized that life for us in the US and really the world had changed forever. Did you take a break fall? Oh no I couldn't wait to get back in the airplane. I was never gonna let those bad guys ruined. I love so much. How did you wild? They were no one was catching plans in the United States. That means that there was a kind of no work for a bit. Then well it. It was very odd time and one of the things that we were asked to do by the chief pilots as to come to the airport in uniform and just walked through the terminal and thank what few passengers there were who were still flying and that was. That was something we had never done before. The airport was almost empty. It was like a ghost town and I fly out of. Dfw are dead at that time which is a very busy huge airport and so to see an empty was very disheartening. And of course all airlines were just bleeding financially. Many of them went out of business Every major airline in the US declared bankruptcy. We were the last of the majors to do so but we did as well and it was a very traumatic time for us and and even when we did fly after that our airplanes were empty. Flying has changed for passengers all over the world since that day. It's different prices. Now's at very different feet papa to it is. I mean you know we used to just walk through security or not even go through security as long as you had an id bad you just bypassed and that for snail We do have some airports that have What is called known crew member and with fingerprints and retinas and all of that so that can be identified as crew members and they can bypass Line since security because that part is terrible for pilots who am flight attendants who are going through constantly. Kevin's a fortress notes isn't it? It has changed and You know for a pilot to just leave the cockpit to go to. The restroom is now an ordeal. You have to call the flight attendant. You have to have a service. Cart brought up to block the passengers from being able to have access to the pilot. So what happens? Is We sit there for a lot longer than we should not asking to. Go back to the restroom because it interrupts the service especially on international flights with the flight attendants and you now have a flight attendant come up to the cockpit you cannot have one. Crew member left there by themselves. So a lot of rules have changed our cockpit. Doors are a bulletproof now and And our security procedures are very different about of course not discussed so I suppose you reached a point in your life where you think. I've seen everything in my career as a pilot. And then you get a phone call saying that someone wants to make a musical about the whole thing billing who would have ever guessed we went back to Gander for the ten th anniversary and I you know I did a lot of interviews with a news people who were looking for five second sound bytes for the evening news and then I learned that there were two playwrights town. They wanted to know if they could interview me. And of course. The interview lasted four hours. And that was it. We went back to Texas once again. Never thought about it again. And four years later we get a call from the producers inviting us to the world premiere opening of Con- from away in La Hoya California and they said remember. The interview didn't course I remember. I said well they've written a musical and my husband and I went to La. Hoya having no idea what we were getting ready to see and your story is at the heart of this this music. No and I didn't even know that you didn't know that when you went to see the show. I didn't know that there had been a song written called me in the sky that chronicles might hole aviation career. I had no idea so this came as a complete surprise to you. Watching the premiere of this musical character on stage cold. Come forward and sing a song. Bet you'll live yes it was astounding. We missed seventy five percent of the first show because after the first five minutes our heads are buried in our hands being. And that's a good thing to see a few more times since. How many times have you seen it? One Hundred Twenty six times. Good exact figures. Yes I said I was going to stop canting after one hundred but people ask me so I I have an exact number one. Twenty Six de recognize the person on stage. That's playing you as you. Oh my gosh she emulates me like you cannot imagine. She has my same mannerisms. She moves like me. She acts like me but I can't sing and I can't dance so I will never fill in for her and she is so wonderful. I met her the very first night before the opening which was the night that we saw it. And I I have just adored her ever since I always say The first cast member. You meet. Who plays your role is kind of like your first boyfriend. You have a very special love for that person. And I feel that way about Jen Cola and now starting to get a few more d'appel gainers they're multiplying so it's been a great experience at House. The musical progressed from its premiere there in California. Well you know it went from at that time in two thousand fifteen from La Hoya to Seattle DC Gander Toronto and then opened on Broadway officially on March twelfth in two thousand seventeen and It has just been phenomenal. It Plays Indefinitely in Toronto with a Canadian. Cast and my husband and I just got back from the opening of the national tour which was in back in Seattle in October and we went to London and opened in the West end in London. a few months ago we were there for that and now we'll be heading to Melbourne for the opening down there so it has been incredible. We've been to twelve. Openings was elected say pain Ganda that was probably one of the most exciting times ever and you have to recognize that it was very important for the playwrights to take it back to the people who the show is about it is really about the people of Gander and most of them will never have the opportunity to go see it. So that's why they wanted to take the show there but they don't have a theater so it had to be done in concert for in the hockey rink. That's where it was played and Well they were on. They created a stage and then each of the actors was standing in front of a microphone. So has done a little different format but the minute. They started singing. I am an island earn. Welcome to the Rock. The people in the audience there were they to performances that twenty five hundred people at each performance. They went wild. You couldn't even hear the actors singing. It was incredible. It was quite an experience and really. I don't think it can ever ever be duplicated. I suppose really. It's a story mainly about them isn't it this. Is they call us? And the way the show gets its name. It's a little bit of a hard name to remember. We were considered. Come from a Weiss if you are not born in Newfoundland you have come from away. So they referred to all of us. The plane people the P. L. A. N. E. People. We were come from a wise. So that's how the show gets. Its name the speaker kind of very interesting form of English. There was little to understand the little bit it is. It is quite unique and they are the kindest people on the planet. I think Canadians. We often think of particularly NAS. People kind of famous for niceness and I suppose there must like that idea that the the the the kindness and they nostitz if you yes they do like it and I would say it even goes more to. An extreme in edgy precede north. Which is where you know. Newfoundland is I mean they. They live on Iraq. They literally live on Iraq and because the winters are so harsh in their life is hard. You know the fishing and all of that that they do. They live a hard life and so they're very connected to the community. They spend a lot of time each other's homes in the winter. They all sing. They played numerous musical instruments and they're very very family oriented than have much but they gave you will. They had they did. I used to flying badly. I have and that is the best part I got the job. I fly a jet. That's privately owned today and I got up because the musical force one is only a small jet and it's beautiful and and the other pilot I fly with has a daughter who's really into Broadway shows and she had heard about come from oil and she called her dad said you know Beverly Bass and he said Oh yes of course I do. We were hired in October of seventy six at American at the same time. So we've known each other for over forty years so we crew the jet together. It's been grand speaking with you. Billion thank you so much thank you. It's an honor to be here A. Spoke with beverly in twenty nine hundred. Armored should thanks for listening You've been listening to a podcast of conversations with Richard Fidler for more conversations interviews. Please go to the website. Abc Dot net dot slash conversations. Discover more great. Abc. Podcasts live radio and exclusives on the ABC Listen Up.
Canadas Road Ahead: Ganders famous airport, and the pandemics economic impact
"Throughout the nineteen eighty s strange phenomenon was sweeping north america. They were in a panic and like people in a panic. They want solutions allegations of underground satanic cults torturing and terrorizing children. The thing is there were no satanic cults preying on children and nearly thirty years later the people touched by it. All are still picking up. The pieces isn't a work of fiction. This is a work of history satanic panic available now. This is a cbc podcast. Today we are starting a new series on the current. It is called canada's road ahead. Like terry fox's marathon of hope. We will follow the trans canada highway or close to it each week we will pull into a small town. Virtually unfortunately to speak with canadians about how they are coping with covid nineteen and what the road ahead might look like. We're kicking things off on the rock and beautiful gander newfoundland and like all good road trips first things first. I need some coffee. Hi. i'm arlene. Bishop the operator owner of the gander breadbox here in gander. Steve bishop marley's lesser half and I am The baker one of the bakers marlins the baker. She does the cookies and bread. We just celebrated our tenth anniversary in december. so we were riding on the high and then The lockdown came down. everything closed. We stayed open but not anywhere near full capacity so for about a week i was quite panicked thinking that we might lose it. Well you know you're watching your your bank account dwindled and dwindled. And you're thinking how you're going to do this and you know you've got you still got the bills to pay and we were. We were definitely worried. We stuck through the first week with the staff and that then we realized that we couldn't keep our staff on. It was a good thing at the time. The government rolled out the serb so as business owners who feel very responsible for our team. We didn't want them to be left out. So as a result We ended up laying everybody off when the restrictions eased up. We get a lot busier than expected. We were going to People just got back and wanted to do things in customers were amazing so the community and surrounding areas just really really had backs. I have one of my customers said. I want ten loads a multi grain bread said and. I want you to put your tag on it. He's because i'm giving that away and hand me a hundred dollar bill and he walks door and this is the kind of thing that was happening. I had a lot of people they were buying to. The in buying four loves bread and they were just paying it forward and all those little things helped along the way for sure. It's actually the things that are looming right now. Kind of scary when you look at The airport naff candida neff count in particular right down with all the projected layoffs that have been given we. We've huge support from huge customer base from there and look at the fact that thirty plus jobs or on the block at the moment that's going to have a huge effect on every business in the community during the pandemic we had a small contract with the airport where we supply some sandwiches and stuff and there's no activity at the airport now so that we've lost that kind of business even just on a on. The one person that you know works for nab canada. Who's now laid off. I mean they're going to really consider what we're going to spend their money. The will have an effect on us to you. Figure there's a light at the end of the tunnel. It's might be a logger tunnel than we hope for. An montlake might not be that break. But it's there. Where do you find. Hope my customers and i. We're very fortunate to have the love of our customers. And i get choked up when i say that because there are family when people come through this door. I know a little bit about them. You don't be in this business for eleven years and not have people part of your life and to give me a lot of hope. Now who marlene. And steve bishop from gander breadbox. Now if you aren't a regular at the breadbox chances are you're still familiar with gander on september eleventh. When planes were forced to land thirty eight guided by ganders control into gander international airport. Thousands of passengers were welcomed a story that many of us know thanks to the musical. Come from away in as you heard from. Marlene and steve. This iconic aviation community is facing hard times right the president and ceo of the gander international airport. Reg good morning. good morning. How important is air travel to gander. Everyone error has Has some jet fuel running through their veins. I think it accounts for about one in five jobs. And of course when you see what's happened with the pandemic Over the last year You can appreciate that we We have a pretty pretty sizable exposure in terms of job loss. Loss business and other negative impacts so describe for me what the gander airport would look like today compared to say your ago. Yeah i mean ganor gainers. Smaller market of course serves about one hundred thousand people and beautiful central new land. And you know a year ago. Today there'd be there'd be we'd have twelve twelve flights a day and now we're down to two and there'd be people coming and going competing workers coming and going people taking starting playing winter escapes and Right now it's very much. I tell people. It's like being a night watchman at a museum. It's quite empty. There's been a sizable job loss at the airport. The ticket counters largely empty The most active people here are generally to cleaners. I'd heard you describe it as a bit like hanging on via fingernail on the side of a cliff we've been like that since It's been an agonizing year waiting for us watching the service withdraw and then you know in december We'd gone from nine. Daily air canada flights before destinations to a single daily flight to halifax and you know we were hoping against hope that we could retain it and then we got the news that as of This friday that's that's being discontinued as well. What impact is that going to have people in gander when that the air canada has pulled all of its roots In and out of that airport. Yeah i i think the impact functionally psychologically is sizable. You'll appreciate when you live in a remote community in thailand destination. That's very trade trade-dependent just how important it is to have daily national service to mainland canada. That's without at. you're not really in the game. This is a massive challenge for us to navigate going forward. I hate to say it. I've always felt like our airport was built for battle will always find a way to remain solvent. But it makes the question on the other side. If you don't have that daily service for your residence You know what's the point. It's interesting that you say there's a psychological blow to that as well. Let me tell me more about that. What it means to people because obviously there's an economic element one in five people are working there. But but psychologically what does that mean when when air candidate pulls up stakes. Well i think one one is just the dissolution of such a long standing relationship and eric and they inaugurated service and may of nineteen forty two candor. Airport was then the newfoundland airport air. Canada was known as trans canada airlines. So so they've service market before. Newfoundland was part of canada and You know the longest interruption in service that we saw whereas the following the nine eleven incident you know once you all their services closed so you know we're we're long term friends and You know sometimes a relationship could be fractious and sometimes we didn't think we were service at a level that we wanted to. But they've stuck with us through a lot of bumps but i'm you know i guess the pandemic was was too high decline. How frustrating is it for you. I mean this is out of your control and there might be that long relationship at air. Canada would say this is a business decision. People aren't flying and they're worried that they've made the case against For example quarantines being as long as they are. They say that they need to do this. But for you. I mean knowing the airport. How frustrating is it that that there's nothing you can do this. It's been orderly agonizing. And i think You know the ancient greeks defined misery is trying to control that which you can't personally control. I think they were talking about mortality. But i have to tell ya Being in a leadership position at a place like this and to know that your future and a lot to a large extent depends on the the policy support. That's going to be offered by a couple levels of government is a very scary place to be and it doesn't matter what kind of business you're wanting couldn't be sort of a community based not for profit like we are but you really want to be able to pull levers and do the things you can yourself to solve your problems and i'll continue to try to do that. The only thing i'll say with an airport is that There are essential so you know we. We stayed open but it's not for commercial reasons at all. There's no reason the commercially to be open We're open to provide essential services during the pandemic many of them healthcare moving essential goods and people. You talk about medevac area. Water fighting and we put into place a very aggressive steady plan. But you know you don't save your way out of a revenue problem. I think the stakes are or what's most worrying because you'll know candidates such a long linear beautiful country but it's so sparsely located so it's not just about you know who does air canada and westjet service. I mean in our home that has can of the aviation is is the load bearing walls and holds it all together so as we look at this critical issue. It's really a nation building. It's not just about. What support can we provide to airlines. And what role they play. An economic recovery is like how important are these bonds that hold us together. How are you doing in all of this. I mean this is tough for everybody. You mentioned being in a leadership position and you have people that that rely noon. Rely on the airport For employment how are you doing and all this question. Well let me put it this way. I always try to keep some context this and say myself and my loved ones every your health through all this so i'll be grateful for that but i'd be lying if i told you my wife said to me you know over christmas. She's like twenty. Twenty was not the best of you and i think like many canadians. You're you're lonely or angry or more frustrated. Some cases fatter but I think i'm all the above. So i it's been very trying. I try to navigate the stress. The best you can but it's been been a tough year. The not just for myself. I know i know there are many people in a much worse position but Certainly it's been forgetful. I was glad to see the year. Go be honesty into the rear view mirror. You and me both you know you're smart funny friends who always seem to have the best celebrity gossip. I'm talking about the ones who always know. We should be watching or reading or listening to or what have you could pick their brains every week. Pop chat is a brand new podcast. But does exactly that and feels like spending time with your best friend. So join me alameda. Abdul mahmoud and a panel of the smartest culture critics that i know as we dissect the discourse but also have a great time doing it. Hey parents if you're looking for some screen free family fun will you're staying home. Check out the story store podcasts. From cbc kids cbc podcasts. New story store shorties are released every week. These short original and hilarious stories fit anywhere near day from breakfast to bedtime. The story store available on smart speakers. or wherever. you get your favorite podcasts. Reg let me bring in another guest and somebody. I'm sure you know. Well percy farwell is the mayor of gander mayor. Good morning to you could morning. We heard reggie talk a bit about that but from your perspective as as the civic leader how important is a healthy airports to a healthy gander. Connie it's It's vitally important This community would not exist airport. It's one of those rare situations where you know. A community exists to support an airport. And not the other way around. You know on like the image that many people have smaller communities in newfoundland and labrador. We are not an airport where an airport. So it's It's you know a vital concern to us. You know our economy and our culture is dependent on the movement and congregation of people and access and connection to the rest of the world. And what we're seeing is serious restrictions on all that and it's not just air canada pulling out some flights or all the flights. Now there's navc canada. Which has the traffic control station there at gander. And they've announced half candidate has that layoffs are coming soon as well. It's just pain upon misery. I suppose absolutely. I mean you know as i said we're we're we're in aviation based community we have a major presence of candidate hearing gander. We are people who live in our community control. All the traffic transits the north atlantic and of course in the absence of passengers and not as many aircraft or transiting the north atlantic and consequently not as many air traffic controllers are required so We've been hit very hard in from that perspective in terms of employment and so on they may have canada in a couple of different rounds of Of cuts the last number months have removed fifty one positions from the gary area control centre which probably represents six seven million dollars worth of wages in our little in our little community. So and you can imagine the The trickle down from from from that loss so it it is significant. We had a. We have a local company. Here that was providing You know contract it's to provide Flights to To smaller Routes within the atlantic canada contract with canada and those routes of in long since cancel during the pandemic. And that means for this. I'm relatively small company here in our community. The loss of a thirty seven million dollar a year contract and constriction of the workforce that goes. Everyone goes along with that. So that's all you know serious concern to us. Obviously and then there's the the whole impact on the the attractiveness of the area to common living. I do business. And when you really don't see much much way to get in and out of it and so on and to provide health services when you don't have you know we we don't have ready. Access to the region for for securing comes that are critical to maintaining services. Is that something that you worry about the attractiveness of your community. The fact that those jobs aren't there people may not move there but they also may not stay there. That's right. I mean you know we pride ourselves on being a vibrant progressive community and and this certainly dampens. It has threatens to dampen the that sort of View of our community That we're not. We're determined not to let that happen. But that's i guess that's just part of the job at hand for all of us you know. We're doing our part here where we're following the rules or flattening the curve where lining up to get vaccinated and and because of that. I think we enjoy a certain level of personal freedom here in newfoundland labrador. Currently that is the envy of Some some other parts of the country as a result but We're seeing here. Sort of an unraveling we in terms of the connectivity. With the rest of the country we're witnessing unraveling of the national fabric and our province in our community and regions becoming increasingly. Reg when you here. But that about the unraveling of the fabric there are people who call in the airlines will do that themselves call for help and look for bailouts. Look for assistance from government. Do you think that people understand the relationship potentially between helping those big airline corporations and small airports like the one that you are running. No no i don't at all. I think they view the the requests for aid for airlines through a very specific lands and You know this is not a combination of canada but hayden airlines is sort of a national sports. You know somewhere around between hockey and lacrosse or two. it's just. I don't think it's because they lost their bags. But some of the perception there can be can be difficult. And i think to some extent is kind of impeding. The federal government's ability to provide a meaningful aid package. Now you know. I would rather i posit the question. Not why should air canada westjet. No there's get aid is that why shouldn't they. I mean if you look at what's been received left-hander group kalem france there. They've got an eleven billion american delta united got eleven billion sort of cares you know and what we're seeing here is. You're seeing these dots. Just wiped off the map and most of these were at one time considered sacrilegious losing services vital places like yukon cape breton island saint john number fredericton new brunswick a capital. So i mean this. Is that mayor's. This is not a perfectly what he's saying it's a it isn't unraveling of the fabric that holds us together. Part of the part of the resistance might be you mentioned losing your bags that people get their back up when they hear that. You're going to bail. The you know the same company that would charge a thirty dollars per cent. Which or still has your money for the trip that you couldn't go on last year because the flights were cancelled because of the pandemic. No no. I understand it. I mean i'm in line like like everyone else. I've got seven thousand dollars tied up in I wanted to take my young kids disneyworld. I gotta feeling by the time. I got to go. I'm going to be taking them into grandchildren. But i do understand that. But i think in the same way that we've all got him said. Listen i'm gonna wear a mask. I'm not gonna congregate in groups. I'm gonna limit my family exposure. We've all done things for the greater good during this pandemic and i think people will have a hard time. Look at me and saying that. No it's not in the greater. Good that airlines be viable on the other side of this one of the reasons why we are having these conversations. We're going to kind of weave our way across the country do some of this actual real life and get out on the road. Is that in the midst of all of this. We want to hear about the hope that canadians have for better days ahead. What do you find hope in when it comes to the business in gander at the port but also the people who rely on most businesses. Mr merrill start with you. Well i think there is always hope there there has to be. There has to be hope. I mean we we one thing about our culture here in newfoundland labrador. We've become rather accustomed to dealing with Difficult circumstances and we have survived and You know through our ingenuity and our Willingness to support to support each other and and to find that light at the end of the tunnel. What about regimen. You walk through that airports and it should be bustling and in the morning you go and as you say. It's a bit of a ghost town empty museum. Where where are you finding. hope there. Yeah i agree with the mayor. Said i've really had to work very hard to trying to conjure. Hope because there haven't been a lot of signs of it of recently but this will become a footnote in history at one point and to echo to mayors comets. The new zealanders got a couple of characteristics. That i don't know if they're then we'd be you know canadian more so than being from newfoundland but i mean people are fair tougher to galvanize nail. It's we're loved. We're used to hard living and we're pretty resourceful. I mean we most people here fancy themselves as being able to put the tail even the squid so we will with some help we will find a way to the other side and brought her. Days are ahead. It is beautiful part of the country. And i wish you the very best and can't wait to get back out there. It's great to speak with you both. Thank you very much. Thank you take care. Bye-bye by bye-bye read right is the ceo of the gander. international airport. and percy farwell. Is the mayor of gander newfoundland. That is our first stop across the country on our canada's road ahead special series next week we're rolling into antonitsch nova scotia for more. Cbc podcasts go to cbc dot ca slash podcasts.
e3 Post Mortem - The Indian Noir Aftershow
"They Halloween Leonora listeners. This is your host. Her should dodging any listening. To Post. Mortem the Indian offficial. He'll Elvia After the successful completion of analyses of fear. FM How are you feeling. They helped you though. It's good to have your voice back on Indiana and as regards to how I am feeling at the end of this season Look it's always very rewarding of finishing up a story that you've been working on for months But the fear FEM. This is not really the end. I put out a tweet the other day and this is a reason for everyone to follow me on social media. It's at Indian new out on twitter and at underscored indication morally on instagram. I put that stuff on social media that I talk about the prices of how some of these stories that created in bed. Where the story's out heading to in the future but I put a tweet out the F.? Couple months ago that I said that you know feel if I'm ace. Unlike anything in Indian horror literature in that it's a sprawling interconnected narrative by the time it's done we'll be seven heavily ears It's most likely going to be fourteen seasons long. The script alone will be a quarter of a million words and it's very likely cleave will be about one hundred and ninety six episodes That would be produced to tell this story in its entirety. It's interconnected so I am at the the beginning of the process and I my feeling is one of all as I look at some of the branches that the fastest seasons of created which will explode on the future and you can see inside of that That is a an Easter egg in the in the fourteenth episode of season. Into which gives you a hint of how the whole season ends as jude. Listeners would spelt this but also Nino if you are you're wondering why Eiji suddenly turned up in that last episode and found a bit gianing that's because it's all interlinked The next sequence of stories in PFM will be the the G. Trilogy it will explore career as a as in Demon slayer Over three periods in her life When I very much look forward to bringing that story to you so yes next fulfilled? I am the eighth digit trilogy. There you have it But generally I feel great. I think it was a great season. it was wonderful Story or either explode some very complex themes Glenn namely You know what happens. Do New childhood friendships as we transition into adulthood and also what's the outcome of misguided loved misguided patent eleven this instance between German Baba and the launch. Dale and I think launch a great villain She is Someone who is has asked motivations that we can understand and empathize with and At the same time she's dastardly and we can hate for her terrible actions that she perpetrates on our young victims and she meets adjust end. Even though that is a tragedy in built in there with the with the death of German Bob but I think it was essential to show the outcome of then misguided. Loved this man had to it's a student. And you know the instances where he could have stopped her very didn't Talk for Angelina deeper. exploring the themes of their grief an addiction and how they used their friendship to try to transcend the the pain in their life All set in the me for horror story. I think it it's been betty satisfying for me as a creator and the feedback on social media is that people are really enjoying it The first season was great but I think people enjoy this even more up. Next is the finest season of everyone's favourite show his night begins. You get a lot of family for the story. What do you think is the secret behind the incredible popularity addity Ovid Audubon? Yes Good friend without the demand is back again for The final season of his night begins demand in his night. Begins is a real mystery to me and I wrote. His mind begins ten fifteen years ago when I was a young the writer when my skills were you know I suppose I was in my formative years Getting bringing together my expedients feedings writing poetry and fiction short fiction into writing long for manuscripts book length works of Fiction and You know I look look at the work and I think argies you know look. I'm a bit green there but yet over the years no matter what I've written no matter what story I have produced the one story people come back to again and again because they love it. I'd let him on because again I think he is for his tangible qualities on this saviour History he is someone you can connect with an an and Foro It's like the path down the circles of hell in inferno by Dante. A you really follow. You're willing to follow this man through his journey for revenge Cutting down sold at characters. suffering a lot of physical pain just to take down. What he believes? Chiefs are evil items that are greater than his who possess an evil. That's greater than even his own evil So people really relate to that and you know the thing with his night begins. This final season is that it's very special to me. I've waited for ten years to tell the story I never felt felt like the original story was complete. I F. It's like that was a greater theme to be explored with with with another chapter a final chapter to his story life and You know I was was very keen on exploiting the theme of absolution. I'm not going to spell it out for you here because then it will ruin your expedience of the story. Theme name is something you should understand in sub-text subconsciously as you follow the plot of the story and there's a lot of enjoyment to begin from that enabled we talk about added obviously wants to the season's done but it's going to be very interesting as a journey For for our good friend without Nettie man and and I am very keen to join you in in finding out. What's next for him So seconda into February tune in It's going to be a great right Undo no like I said I have waited for so long to give the story the ending deserved left and I'm so so thankful full the lovely Fan Mail and the support that I get on social media And I know oh thanks for listening to this now. Thousands of people from around the world will be tuning in with you to fall without story people in in India Australia. USA UK Canada UAE in Saudi Arabia. Will Ami engineer is number one on podcast chance And many many more countries will be no people who are drawn to the show because of off their love for out as a character and an how historian folds in the festive seasons. That's the reason why all these thousands thousands and thousands of Indian our listeners have stayed behind so I am sure they are keen like I am to find out where his journey ends and his journey Joanie will end so You know really look forward to this so secondary tune in. I hope you've been enjoying the PROMOS. This is GonNa be one hell of all right So so glad. You're coming along with me for this. When will prepping for this interview? You were telling me about special treats you've signed up for Indian or listeners. Gander Shantou surprise. I mean why not. You're so good at strong. Arming me into giving up my secrets of Shiva So yes the. The surprise is fat and over the Republic Day weekend the super coach of both season season one and two of his night begins with released For people who want to relive all the excitement in in one go that'll be hours thousand hours of entertainment for you over that we can period So you can listen to it again and get ready for this final ride. I quickly. I WanNa talk about Indian wotton. It has become an integral part of the Indian Rajini. Why did you conceive the segment looking? Quite think into new are excellent or ten. Whichever way you want to call it is such an interesting segment? Because it's apostle of the podcast that I get to share. Maya love supernatural stories. That people share with me face to face or once that they lightened to the show. It's fascinating to me that when I talked to someone I asked about whether they have had an event in their life that they can't explain an incident that was just bizarre The oldest have story. This is such a shared human experience feeding the touch of the supernatural. At some point in your life I find that incredibly fascinating and I'm using the segment to share that fascination with others and encouraging us to come forward with this story story so I can use my narration skills to share that with other people I think humanities united in their Some of the supernatural. It's a way to unify us through telling stories about something that is So prevalent it doesn't matter what in the world you come from that on these folktales tails and then ghostly stories and and encounters that really unify. SSI as species in terms of understanding of life and what lies beyond death So for me. It's such an interesting segment. I really love it. I think I'm so glad I was able to incorporate corporate that into the regular show And going into the I have I have over the years. I've built this Bank of to life experiences that people have shared with me so I will definitely be narrating all of those and I look forward to seeing the new stories that are gonna come through the mail box I hope you're enjoying it too. It's one of the most listened to segments on the podcast. People love healing. real-life supernatural financial stories. I mean there are hundreds of podcasts. The fallen that John Laura And Indian Nuwara as a podcasts. That deals with the supernatural in temps a fictional storytelling. I feel that it's a good fit but we have these short segments where we get to talk about. Something that's known fictional as well An enhance our engagement with the things that go bump into to Ben Beyond stepping out to go to the bathroom at night or when be walking down an alleyway after University classes or Bahonar bike riding back home from our workplace Just just talking about. It gives me. Goosebumps is just the the the number of stories that other yet to be produced in Dinar. Some of them are truly mind blowing. I can't wait for you to hear them on. Newsday Wheels Day. You tweeted about Indian was accomplishments in twenty nineteen. What were the key highlights for you? And what do you see coming into. North in two thousand twenty can thank our wonderful listeners. Enough for the success. We've had in two thousand. Nineteen I mean be have dominated tasted the fiction on drama charts or major podcasting APPs consistently through the nor just in India but out in the Middle East in some of the Asian countries Australia. We've had so many listening to your listeners. Joining over the year USA Be had huge growth in the latter half of the year You ought to family of thousands and thousands of India nor listeners and supporters who who are vital to Indian literature and by that what I mean is that India Newark is is an attempt to tell stories in the Hora crime and fantasy genres that feature. Three dimensional Indian characters And that set in India and he's very much of -flective of India's culture and heritage But not just in a traditional sense it also embraces modern India and the underbelly of India and that is not a lot going on in the space. Jason Temps of storytelling Because some of the existing media out of an outdated or don't have the appeal about podcasting gives me the opportunity puts unity to deliver these stories to your ears Clearly it's resonated the people so we've had amazing successes on the On the on the popularity fronts in temps of dominating charts Audible was attracted to into know our success. And now we have into new a-plus on audible sooner the apple which you can download for free and you can listen to May two which is a space horror show inspired by Indian mythology on that apple right now so That was a real coup for Indian. You're to be able to Picked because of its popularity to be on a bigger platform A along with the likes of Anita Button and under that cut ship and taboo It's it's been a real owner I also have to. I'm also thankful for all the media coverage That I've received an old the lovely social media messages. That you the listenable has sent me and also the wonderful reviews you of left at different on different platforms uh-huh Just just amazing mazing. I'm just so smoothed by your love for the podcast What this means is that this gives us the ability to create a much bigger platform For your genre listening needs and by that what I mean. East in two thousand twenty you can expect more content so you will have the regular all of shows but you will also have new shows in a mini series format the way this. I'm intending for this to work on a certain Monday I will declare it as a mini series Monday. I will announce what you're going to listen to and on starting Monday be every single day of that week we will have an episode released that covers a self contained story that you can Listen to throw during that week and at the end of the week you'll have your regular show that you always always follow So that means more content More content in horror in action Fantasy I I really really hope You will continue to support India and also Show your love for it with others The whatever medium that you choose to. It's always wonderful to hear from you. So that's been the amazing twenty nine hundred and we've had and look forward to June twenty twenty. I think this year's going to be huge I can't wait for you to hear what we've gotten the pipeline to entertain you as you are driving more catching the public transport or you enjoying a free time at home listening to Stories stories from in December belly. Thank you for your time the gish and I can't wait to hear how neons and thank you dean. I didn't want this month for tuning in. I would be back after the season. Finale of the final season of his night begins which starts streaming on Sundays taken February thirty on all major podcast APPS and an Indian. Aw Dot COM
S1E2 / The Test Kit Debacle / Dr. Tom Frieden
"I'm Dr Selene Gander. And I'm Ron claim. And this is epidemic in this episode. We've got a roundup of the latest news from the Corona virus outbreak. United States around the world. We're GONNA talk about. Congress finally stepping forward and funding the response. We'll hear about vice president pence his press conference yesterday and we have an interview with the man who used to run the Centers for Disease Control. Tom Fredin we're going to ask him about the testing fiasco to CDC is at the center of and its impact on the corona virus situation. And finally we're going to be taking your questions on travel so first. Our News Roundup for the week in the US. We're now seeing local community spread and California and Washington states. There's a nursing home in Kirkland Washington. That's at the center of the Seattle area outbreak. This nursing home has had a recent history of disease outbreaks and violations with respect to infection control practices now important to note that nursing homes are a very difficult place in which to control infectious diseases and are often susceptible to having flu outbreaks as well also in the Seattle area North Shore School district which is north of Seattle. Is Cancelling class for the next two weeks? After a parent volunteer was diagnosed with the disease manure questioning what the impact may be for low income students who may not have access to computers and the Internet to continue their studies. In addition many are reliant on the free and reduced lunches schools offer and parents count on schools for childcare. Amazon and facebook both had tech workers test positive and many tech companies are now encouraging employees to work from home if at all possible also in the Seattle area researchers are recruiting healthy volunteers to participate in the first clinical trial of Maderna's experimental corona virus vaccine outside of New York City. We now have a cluster of cases in Westchester County. But they're still no evidence so far of broader community transmission and in news here in Washington where I am. The Congress finally stepping up the House of Representatives has passed eight billion dollar package. We expect the Senate to pass it and for president trump to sign it now. The good news is this package is going to help fund the medical elements of the response. But they're still some major gaps. Nothing in this package that Congress passing deals with all the people who are going to lose their jobs or have to stay home from work and not be able to work people who are hourly wage workers who will lose income. This doesn't do anything to help that. It doesn't do anything to help parents who are going to childcare when their schools closers. Salinas mentioned problem of young people who are in schools who get fed. They're losing their source of nutrition. Does it deal with that? But it is a step in the direction of dialing up the response and it is a step of trying to do more to fix this. Testing FIASCO HAS REALLY BEDEVILED. Our reaction to coronavirus sedate. Meanwhile Vice President Mike Pence and other top. Us Health officials held a press conference yesterday in Washington. Dc here are some of the highlights the CDC is now advising that any American can be tested without restriction. If a doctor orders that test but I'm really concerned that this could lead to a rush by worried. Well who want the test and we may not have enough test for the people who really need them well insulated. I'm actually worried about in subways. Just the opposite. Which is if our plan is to wait for people to raise their hands and say they want tests. Were not going to get this job done. We should be honest. Aggressive strategy of testing people with unexplained cases of ammonia people in nursing homes at risk populations really focusing at their. The administration says they're going to step up testing by changing. Fda rules to have private labs step up and test. They hope that at some point in time commercial apps that people are familiar with in their communities like quest will be able to administer tests there but all of that is still weeks away you know and I think one approach that we could be taking to better target. Testing is if somebody has symptoms or concerns. There's a sort of step by step process you can take you. Can I test them for the flu? Then you can do an expanded what we call multiplex PCR for a broader array of common respiratory viruses. And then follow that up with a Krono virus tests with a good way of one doing surveillance to reassuring people but also making sure that the tests are reserved for those who really need it most right and so. Let's listen to Debbie. Burks who now works for vice president pence helping to coordinate this response. Here's what she said on C. Span the other day this will be an essential lab tests so fully reimbursable. Well we talked about with the commercial laboratories is exactly your question and we asked them and their invalidation. This week they some of them thought they would have tests available on Friday and the rest on Monday. I've asked them to prioritize the areas where we've had these clusters so that people can be reassured in those areas where there is where we have identified. Virus has been circulating in those cases they will have it available at doctor's office and all of our pediatric offices that would need it and they will transport it through a logistics network to make sure that they can be run so look. I think we're seeing progress here from the administration ambassador. Burkes is laying out some of the things we needed to get testing to be more widespread and to remove the financial burden of testing. We're hearing stories of people say I went into get tested at cost me three thousand dollars. Four thousand dollars. My insurance didn't cover and that's also going to deter testing so I think there's some positive movement there but it is late more promises of acceleration isn't GonNa do it This is going to be measured by what really happens on the ground that people are seeing in their communities about the affordability and the accessibility of testing. Think it's also important term member that it's not just the cost of the test. The doctor bills you a fee the facility bills you a fee. So just because the test is free doesn't mean the entire visit is free and so I I really think we need to start thinking about other approaches kind of like S. t. d. clinics us where everything is completely free. Some countries have had innovative approaches to this like the UK and South Korea where they've set up specific testing through drive thru facilities. Where people can get everything done. Actually from the convenience of their own car drive through testing that would be the American way selling. You know one of the things that happened at the White House. This week was a meeting with President. Trump. And the CEOS of the major airlines. We're seeing already significant flight cancellations as a result of fears of the virus and the president met with the CEOS discuss. What other kinds of travel restrictions measures might be taken and one thing we did during the Ebola response? Is We rooted all the flights that are coming from that area that case the three countries of West Africa to just five US airports where we had screening in intensive levels. Were had a health officials on standby to deal with people who might be sick and I think you might see more of that. Now look one difference here to Selene. Talked about in our last episode is that this is a pandemic not just an epidemic and the number of countries where this disease is spreading grows by five or six everyday so trying to manage this by managing. The travel may be quite difficult. But I think it's a good thing to focus on. The government has amazing resources through the Department of Homeland. Security to monitor were. Travelers are coming from to route their travel to screen those travelers. We really utilized that yet in this epidemic. But that may be where this goes next. Yeah it's funny actually went through one of those Screening processes at Newark when I came back from Guinea myself so there's also been recognition as we were talking about earlier that nursing homes are really vulnerable to these kinds of outbreaks. Here Seema Verma. The head of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid on C. Span. Yesterday as you heard because of the The risk for our nation's seniors. We're doubling down on our efforts. Today we put out three memo's one was to hospitals about triaging and placement for patients with suspected or confirmed corona virus. We also put out some information to nursing homes. About limiting visitors to nursing homes monitoring staff and then finally we put out some information to our state surveyors that are going to be surveying our nation's nursing homes and hospitals around infection control so all that information Went out this morning again. Goes back to the testing issue in two respects first of all. We're going to need to test people in nursing homes pretty extensively The data coming in from shows that this disease almost all the fatalities aren't people over sixty. This is going to be a concern and nursing homes all over the country and secondly were probably going to have to test people who regularly visit people in nursing homes. We don't want to cut the elderly off from the outside world. That's bad for their health. It's bad for their mental health. But we're going to have to make sure that people coming in and out. Art Bringing Corona virus into those nursing homes so now turning to the international front. Who was reporting shortages of personal protective equipment? So that's the gowns gloves masks that we use in the hospital and clinics to protect ourselves and this is really going to create problems for healthcare workers to do their job safely W. H. O. Director General Dr. tetris debris seuss has said that we can't stop cove in nineteen without protecting our healthcare workers. I this is going to be consistent. Theme in this podcast. I look at healthcare workers as the people who are going to save us. This virus really spreads in this country but we also have to save them. They're the ones who are most at risk. They're the ones who are most vulnerable to getting the infection. They're the ones who are most vulnerable to being people who spread it and so protecting our healthcare workers is just a critical strategic goal of any corona virus response now as for the path of the epidemic itself. We're seeing signs that the epidemic may be slowing in China and as a result. The epicenter of this challenge is in the next wave of countries that have been hit by South Korea. Italy Iran Japan and the goal there and the goal in the rest of the global community is to try to slow the spread of the virus and push it back in the calendar particularly towards the summit's not because corona virus will disappear in the summer. We don't know that we're not really sure about that. But more because seasonal flu diminishes in the summer and that means that our hospitals and healthcare facilities won't be happy to deal with flu patients in the summer. We'll have more capacity to deal with corona virus. Delay is a win for this fight. And that's what everyone is working on now even as things get somewhat back to normal in China and were certainly nowhere near there yet but as Chinese factories China's production resumes. They're still going to be lingering effects on supply chains particularly for drugs so antibiotics Acetaminophen or things that we use very often in patients who've had viral illnesses very often after the flu for example you might get a bacterial pneumonia and see something we use to treat pain fevers so these are drugs that it's very concerning may be in short supply in the not too distant future. Meanwhile in Iran about three dozen government officials and members of Congress have been infected with the Corona Virus. The militia has been sent door to door to homes to help sanitise the homes. There's even been a leading prosecutor who has threatened facemask quarters with the death penalty. Healthcare workers are being told to keep quiet about what they're seeing. And some even been asked to falsify death certificates and report other causes of death than the corona virus unfortunately in Iran. There seems to be an overemphasis on controlling information rather than controlling the virus. I think this is something Salinas. We see this disease around the world. We're going to see a big difference. Between more open societies that are more transparent about what's happening and authoritarian societies information suppressed? Obviously case number one for that is China where a lack of honest and candid transparent communication about. The virus definitely made things much worse than it would have been otherwise now. Speaking of around the world still have the second worst bullet epidemic in world history. Going on right now in Congo and looks like it's during the end. Now why is that relevant to our discussion of Corona virus? It's relevant because the systems the skills. The train personnel talents. They're built in fighting. One epidemic often get flipped over to another epidemic for example. We were fighting a bullet in west Africa in two thousand fourteen. Fifteen worked had been done in fighting. Hiv and malaria in Africa particularly in adjacent Nigeria were critical keeping a bowl of from spreading to other countries. And that's really critical to us with regard to the krona virus epidemic the scariest thing about krona viruses. What happens if it starts to spread widely in Africa? Of course we're focused right now about our own country in the countries where it exists. And that's understandable and that's human nature but where this virus could be a simply devastating life destroying event could be an African. It spreads there so building up capacity on that continent to respond to react to epidemics as a critical global priority. Finally an international corona virus news the Pope. I'm sure you'll be relieved to hear. Tested negative for Corona virus. He just had a bad cold. Don't want to see the pope gets sick. Silly we're very lucky to have as our first interview on the epidemic podcast Dr. Tom Friedman to talk about this testing fiasco his experience in leading the fight against a bola both overseas and here at home and his perspective as the former head of public health in New York City. Where we're starting to see. The Corona virus really become a major consideration this week. Thomas currently president and CEO of resolved to save lives a global nonprofit initiative vital strategies working with countries to prevent one hundred million deaths and to make the world safer from epidemics. You could find on twitter at at Dr. Tom Freidan Tom. Welcome to the epidemic podcast. Thanks so much for joining us to be with you. Dr Freidan if you were New York City Health Commissioner today. What would you be doing to prepare the city? I would think about it. In three. Broad categories the general public health care including nursing homes and policy makers in government for people. Really want to encourage wash your hands. Don't shake hands. Cover your mouth nose when you cough or sneeze and if you're sick stay home for healthcare facilities. We have to learn to surge safer figure out how to do several things. One make sure that we keep healthcare save for healthcare workers and for patients. We've seen more than three thousand. Healthcare workers infected on China at means changing the way patients move around Saudi. It means making sure that people who do triage don't get infected and it really means thinking hard about nursing homes because in nursing homes we see explosive outbreaks of influenza and for the public policy at city state and Federal Level. We need to invest. We need to invest in communications in a addressing. Societal needs keeping schools and were going at minimizing. The societal harm as well as the health harms A. Follow up question to that. How do you enable people to stay home from work if they're paid by the hour There might be social pressure. Let's say you work at Google. You know not to to stay home How do we enable that as a physician the ethos is? If you're not comatose you should come to work and we just have to get away from that because it's not safe. It's not safe for others for people who are on daily wage. We have to try to figure out how to make sure that they don't have to choose between losing money and risking other people's health. We want it to be in everyone's best interest to do. What's best for everyone so Tom? Back when you were teaching me everything that I learned the Abullah response. One of the first lessons you taught me as an a crisis you start with what you have and you scale up from that as opposed to trying to invent something from scratch. We talked a minute ago about what you would do. If you're Newark City Health Commissioner but what about smaller cities smaller towns? They start with less. How do they scale up from lower starting point each community has strengths and weaknesses? Communities need to build on the strengths and address the weaknesses in rural areas for example there are some populations that are particularly at risk. It might be a nursing home. It might be a community with a high rate of Chronic disease such as diabetes. And we have to think of what we can do to best protect those areas. So one major area of concern. That's been reported. Quite extensively in the media is around testing What do you think Dr Freidan about how the CDC is handled Crow Virus With respect to diagnostic so far you know why are we so behind South Korea and how much of the blame actually rests on CDC. I think we'll have to look back and understand blame. This is unusual in all of the past responses the CDC lab provided the laboratory tests. Not just for the United States but for the world that was the case with H. One and one in Windsor with Ebola with Zico so the CC has a facility that produces large volume high quality laboratory tests. What went wrong this time looked at so it never happens again. What we need to do now is focus on getting out as widely as possible so that we can identify how much this is reading. We also need to develop better tests tests that are rapid. That might be able to tell in twenty or thirty minutes if someone has the infection and a blood test will tell if someone's been exposed in the patched. Are there any point of care tests in development that we may have soon? I don't know how readily available they will be or how possible they will be to develop some of these upper respiratory infections. The other corona virus infections have relatively low amounts of virus so it requires a Naser fringe sample. Which is not a pleasant thing to take a whether it has enough virus on it. Only time will tell I. I can't emphasize strongly enough that we are still learning more about this virus every day and virtually every hour and the more we learn the better. We can respond to it. Where do you think we go from here on testing if the goal is to rapidly ramp up our ability to task to conduct surveillance even? What's the path forward from here? We're going to need to recognize that. This is a global endemic. The countries that are affected are increasing by five or ten a day so essentially. It's going to be everyone with a dry cough or fever. Who might have this infection? There are systematic ways that we test everyone with those symptoms sentinel clinics so we can get a sense of how much of this is spreading in community if at all or if it starts when it starts to go down the best case scenario. I'd seen around. The world is Singapore which began testing everyone with severe pneumonia and they picked up a few cases that way. So let's take the lens back a little bit. Your work resolved to save lives part of your work at least is on the general question of assessing the world's preparations for pandemics. So as we face this pandemic give us a readout. How prepared is the world? Where is it more prepared? Where's IT less prepared Ron? As you may remember in two thousand twelve we begin pilot projects of the Global Health Security Project. And then we lost it formally in two thousand fourteen and in the past six years a hundred fifteen countries have gone through a rigorous assessment of how prepared they are and the bottom line is were not very prepared. The good news is we know. Where the gaps are we know what the gaps are? We know how to fill the gas. We know that there are close to ten thousand life threatening gaps all around the world and we know what it costs. It costs about one dollar per person per year in lower income countries. That means it will cost us ten to twenty billion dollars over the next ten years to make the world substantially safer from epidemics pandemics. We've got everything except the money and maybe with this crisis where hundreds of billions of dollars trillions of dollars may be lost will have the money to close those gaps and make us all safer. Dr Freidan what did you learn from your experience responding to the Bulla Epidemic? That you could share with us that worked and didn't work good. Public Health programs base their decisions on data and great public health programs base their decisions on real time. Data the hallmark of any effective response is that it backs to new information as that information becomes available and it therefore works really hard to get that information. We won't have that information unless we have a laboratory network around the world unless we have trained disease detectives unless we have rapid response teams and rigorous epidemiology. So the better information. We have the better. We can protect people. Well speaking of that we have seen in this current corona virus epidemic Just to be honest from my perspective erratic and untrue. Communications from the President Contradicting Some of your former colleagues at CDC in their presence contradicting Tony Out. She in his presence. Tony Having to correct the president repeatedly I mean. How do we deal with the public health? Communications Challenge In this environment. And how do you assess it so far going forward? What will be key to watch is are the decisions being made based on science the leadership of CDC and Nih speaking from the podium. That's very important. That's something to watch. There's always a little bit of jostling between different parts of the federal government but CDC is the expert in this and Nancy Messiaen called it like it. It's it's not so much a question of if this will happen anymore but rather more a question of exactly when this will happen and how. Many people in this country will have severe illness. We follow the principles of risk communication that are drilled into us at CDC be. I be right incredible. She told people this was going to spread. She told people what to expect. And I think there was a lot of negative reaction to that but she did the right thing will. Well let me push on bit. Tom and see how far you're willing to go. So there's always jostling but the spectacle of People attacking her because her brothers Rod Rosenstein of political attacks on people at CDC because they're allegedly part of the deep state. I mean that's not an environment that encourages candid and reliable communications from public. Health officials right. Cdc remains one of the most trusted institutions in the US. They've clearly had a problem with a test kits but CDC is where the world goes to for this expertise and it's where all of us continue to go to for excellent guidance on how to protect health workers had nursing homes how to protect communities so the CDC website becomes really The the nerve center for the US response and to an extent the global response as well and as long as the CDC experts were the same people who were there. When I was running the agency are allowed to do their jobs. I have more confidence in our ability to respond Dr Freidan. Why do you think some of these technical public health? Decisions are being politicized in. How can we prevent that from happening? Public Health decisions always have a political component. What we want to make sure is that the decisions are being made based on saving the most lives and we're leveling with the American people about what the risks are and finally Dr Freedom before we close if there's anything you would like to say about resolve and and how it might apply to the current corona virus outbreak at resolved to save lives. We've been working for the past three years to strengthen preparedness primarily in Africa. There are huge gaps in preparedness. But there's a lot that can be done about them. Uganda and Nigeria. For example have made major strides at are now able to find and stop outbreaks much faster than they were just a couple of years ago and that helps them that help their neighboring countries that helps the US and that helps the global economy because it reduces the risk of the kind of economic shock that we're seeing a covert nineteen is a huge challenge. It's also are unique opportunity to both invest in strengthening early. Warning and rapid response systems around the world to tamp down this pandemic and to drive down the risk of future pandemic Dr Free. And thank you for joining us today. And thank you for your service. Thank you it's a pleasure speaking with you both each week. A featuring this podcast is going to be answering your questions so you can get us your questions two ways you can tweet. Selene or myself at Salin gallagher or at Ronald Clean or if you could record an audio file on your phone with your question an email that question to us at hello at just human productions dot org that's hello at just human productions dot org. Please keep your question under a minute. Tell us your name and where you're calling from. Here's a question from Toby Cumin from Newton Massachusetts high. Selene I'm about to host my son's Bar Mitzvah in about four weeks and we have several relatives flying in from all over the country. At least twenty people are so at about Ten or twelve of them are over the age of seventy. I'm wondering what you recommend. If we're considering should we be thinking to postpone the event due to The threat of the corona virus and is it unsafe to have all these people be flying so I don't think there's a blanket recommendation I can give to everyone. I think you really need to look at the specifics of each case. So here's how I break down I think about is this domestic travel. Is this foreign travel. And then what's your risk of of being infected in the particular place? You're traveling too. So is this a place that has community transmission or not have there been sporadic cases or or no cases at all so for example. Travelling to the Kirkland or Seattle area in Washington state is very different from traveling to Omaha Nebraska right now. So that's another factor. I look at then I think about will. What is the risk to the person? Who's traveling of being infected? So are you somebody? Who's elderly Especially seventies and eighties. But we do start to see an increase in risk. After the age of fifty do you have a chronic medical condition you know and that could be anything from heart or Lung Disease Diabetes Kidney Disease Liver Disease. Maybe you have an autoimmune disease. Maybe you're in recovery from cancer so there's a whole host of medical conditions that could put you at higher risk for complications. Then what about your employer? Does your employer have restrictions? So I know a lot of hospitals anything from mass general in Boston to Nyu and Columbia. New York and others are instituting travel restrictions for their employees. And then you know personally I also think about could I be helping to spread the infection to other parts of the country and while that will happen eventually. I don't want to rush that process along anymore than it's going to be happening on. Its own and then finally if you're traveling internationally. There are a couple of other things I would think about. If you got sick how would you feel about the healthcare? You would get there. It's very different to get sick someplace. Like Singapore than it to get sick in a less developed country. And personally what I actually worry about. The most is getting trapped by travel restrictions. That aren't based in science. You know from one day to the next. Could the administration decide? Oh you went to France and Paris has seen a lot of cases. You have to stay in France for the next couple of weeks until we sort this out. I mean first of all it should certainly be a bright line that no one should travel to countries. They're subject to a level three. Cdc Travel Advisory Right. Now that's Italy that's Iran. That's China that South Korea you should check CDC dot Gov for the updates on those advisories before you travel. Likewise Japan is subject to a level. Two Advisory Right now doesn't mean you can't travel there but does mean that certainly if you have contact with elderly people or vulnerable people if your healthcare worker you shouldn't travel to a level two country again. Those warnings are going to change. Stay on top of them before you travel overseas the simplest and best advice for any travel planning right now is make sure that you get refundable tickets or travel insurance so if your plans have to change you can change them. And the last thing I'd add for our question from Toby You know I I had to have my bar. Mitzvah cancelled because my mom got sick just before it had learned my Torah portion. Second time so if you have to postpone or cancel of life will go. Epidemic is brought to you by just human productions. Today's episode was produced by Jack Dyer and me or music by the blue dot sessions. If you enjoy the show please tell a friend about it today. And if you haven't already done so leave us a review at Apple podcast. 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Par Live my faculty and the Marin crew with you for yet another weekly get together. It's holiday week in the wake of the two thousand nineteen racing season. Still lots going on in the world of NASCAR like Joey. Logano is in the news. He put his name in the Guinness Book of World Records last week. We've got that story coming up. Stay tuned for that. On Friday night both of ask our xfinity series and NASCAR Gander outdoor structure had its twenty nine thousand nine awards ceremony. We will hear from some of the top finishers from the evening. And we'll recap the playoffs from both series. We'll also take a listen back to this week in NASCAR history but to start the show off. It was announced last week. Jimmy Johnson is going to be retiring from Full Time Cup series competition after the twenty twenty season the motor racing network pays as tribute to the seven time Nascar Cup series champ. Jimmy Johnson wins at homestead and scores out history-making seventh championship Agip Legacy Wise. I feel I feel that. I'm a people person in built a lot of extremely meaningful relationships in this industry in this garage area I go back to my younger years in various teams in the series that are raced in. There's always been a feeling they're in a friendship and a bond on and respect so ultimately did stop respect and I'm being you know being one of the good guys out there on the track record Henrik on top of the box in every every box you check and life you know what you do with kids at your Asia Family Annua champion and he just every sponsor he's had it just inhabit too but You know they they love him to death and Some odd years thank Sikanda but the stats big themselves but People are GonNa remember the man Jimmy Johns. It is all over and Jimmy Johnson for the eleven time in his career has picked the win here at Dover Dover is always going to have a special place in my heart but I don't it's so new so I'm not sure what I'm going to miss but but first blush added. Ah There's there's nothing that I'm near the way from I'm excited to go back and see these places racing's places see my fans. Johnson got to win the forty eight Daytona five hundred molested tuna five hundred of these moments that are gonna be out there really special. My head's muscular mathematics only the thirteenth started his NASCAR Winston Cup series career ear. Jimmy Johnson is going to victory lane in California. I think I think it's the first one you think about the championship to think about Daytona. You think about indy. I mean you had. Yeah so many wins but the celebration when you when you first went on against surprise you won this or the heck. Yeah I am this. This is unbelievable. You always hope and wish that you know think that you have the ability to come out here be competitive but you just don't know until the right situation presents itself and everybody can showcase their talents. But I I really look forward to what might develop in twelve months from now in ensuite. Opportunities might out there so would mind going to get dirty again and we have the history with off road racing in the dirt and all. We'll just be just kind of wait and see and most importantly I feel like I need to take a deep breath and and just see what kind of comes from them in but my family I instead of racing I wants and take it from there Jimmy Johnson. While one of the greatest champions champions the sport has ever seen and probably one of the best drivers this sport has ever known coming up next on NASCAR live. We'll hear from Joey Logano and his world record and later we'll recap the truck series and xfinity series playoffs progressive presents. 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We beat the world record for the longest hot wheels track which took forever forever but we got so close a few times in the car would fall off but eventually see that cargo. Go Flying Outta the shop here and off the rampant landed into a actual two thousand eighteen Mustang. That is painted up the same as the hot wheels car So that it was kind of cool to have it pop in there and they get to burn out sell Felt good to get a victory so that part was really. This car will be in stores when Twenty twenty may twenty. Twenty is when it's GonNa come out so there's a balloon for Walmart and our read one for target. So that's the that's how that's GonNa work in. The goal is to be able to sell it as the world record holding car. That's really cool. The burn outs are impressive. By the way to that was awesome. Anytime you can do. A burnout is a good excuse to do it. So this is a this is definitely a a good enough excuse Honestly they feel like a wink has tried so hard right at this thing In trying to get so close to when you finally did as a yes. Finally so I didn't think it was when we started today. And we had to adjust to track a lot and we actually shorten up the track some because The first goal was to get a half a mile. That's what we were thinking we can do but Some parts of the tractors. We could not get straightened out to where the conversation attract so We cut off that portion so their records one thousand nine hundred and forty three. I think was the report You think it's worth H which beats the record held by some Russians in Moscow By over one hundred feet. We're bringing you're back to America. Ferret is he will win the battle and he will win. The War in south Florida said the other day the victory and me well as that one has got gotta win it Joey Logano in his old time season in the Cup series is GonNa win top your mantle of even the championship and everything else. Also you got now. You've got a world record this your first. Obviously there's a lot of people that went to. It's hard for me to say my world record. Yes it is the first but it was. It was a lot of people that that went into this. And and James Savelli who works here at Clutch he did. He laid out on all this track over the last few days going back and forth back and forth which is a pain in the but But to be able to accomplish this today was the goal Anything less would have been a failure. What really stung leaving here and and After last year I didn't really WANNA go anymore. It's things like that and glad to to get this record of super cool. So did you have a passion for how wheels cars when you were younger Of course I you know hot wheels to me is one of the main reasons. Why race today You know as a child Get hot wheels Christmas in the hot wheels tracks. And you know I love it and you know as you as I grew up I kind of. That's Kinda guided me into getting go car obviously created my my racing career And now with our our little Guy Hudson as he's starting to hear soon I mean he loves hot wheel so he can't say many words but hot wheels is one of them and he loves his soon as he gets home he goes. He's he's got a bucket that is older cousin gave him like two hundred cars and he just goes and just run up and down the hallway down. He you brought a couple of boosters home obviously did the boosters at home and just just loves them so it's cool to see I don't know kind of kind of me as a child and him a little bit kind of how I was when I was little. How loved racing down the Hallway and he does the same thing which is funny so he thought this is cool? I'm sure he he might not know actually happen today. But we'll have some cool video showing some data. Say he was involved in some day. He'll be able to have a car to yes. It's ridiculous so we'll see we'll speak to. That's going to be fine. Yeah we're scared out of her mind to be asked which uh-huh one's one's been challenging as anyone knows so I don't know what Tuesday and be like. It's going to be tough but he's so much fun now. I'm watching As we speak right now. He's getting in my quarter midget of our other kid. That's pretty cool. Actually it's really neat. I never actually got on their on his own so I don't know there's a neat little things like that. I think he's a special. Yeah it's been a good couple of years for you. Obviously won the championship in two thousand. Eighteen wins this year early on and then midway big one at Michigan for four but then at the end you know you guys can just missed Phoenix. It's just so close like you know in the championship at homestead to free. Mistakes cost them a championship. One Sake you know a week before like it's just so tight right now isn't it. Yeah that's what the playoffs are. And that's why the intensity so high gets pissed off. Each other is so much on the line within entry racist. You can't get far enough ahead to feel comfortable so one batteries knocks you out. You know and it's so easy to look back and everyone can do this which she looked back and go. Golly if I just didn't give away to wins there in a regular season we'd run into champ should four and had a shot at it but you know everyone can say that everyone say well off. I just finished spots better here. I'd had another playoff point at the end of the season or it wouldn't it would have been different. Who knows right? Everyone can say that stuff so you can't really look at it too much but it does. It does go to show that every single race during the regular season means as much as anything because when you get into playoffs one point five points points. Three points means everything to your season across alive winning for the third here in Michigan the twenty third win of his career the dominant car brought at the end of two thousand eighteen monster. Energy Nascar Cup series champion. Joey Logano and our tyler brunette coming up next we'll turn our focus to the Nascar Gander outdoors truck series with a recap of its playoffs. Later we'll chat with Ross chastain gene and Brett moffitt Gordon has come from virtually nowhere. He's one of NASCAR's all time. Great Time in his career pioneering champion. beat the right place at the right time. The Kid who took on the good old boys and Change Nascar we started. Go Toe to toe from our Heart Moran presents a ten part podcast series the traces. 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Y You weren't here last week and just like. What is the biggest difference this this week? It's Sunday money on MR DOT COM item spotify or wherever else podcasts next When you're on the go missing the side by side actually? The racetrack isn't a problem here. On the high side auto racing network brings the NASCAR race to you wherever you are. So you don't miss one lap of the excite denny. Hamlin won the sixty first edition of the Daytona. SONAL five hundred. You are the band the power of radio to the imagination to the listener tune into the motor racing network visit Mr in dot com for a millie it lists in your local area. This is nascar our lives now back to Mike Bagley so good to have you with us on on this week's Nascar live that's car gander. Outdoor struck series had an exciting twenty nine thousand nine playoff run with Matt Craft and winning the championship at homestead. Miami speedway recap of all the action. Here's our ends Dan Hubbard by the playoffs for the Twenty Nineteen Nascar Gander outdoors truck series began in the hills of Tennessee at the Bristol. Motor speedway here comes the field turn for rent mop and broadcast pain at the brunt of free flags in the air. Ross chastain went on to win the first stage of the event and earned a playoff point along with ten bonus points one truck link. Wash chastain will win the opening stay here tonight at the Bristol Motor speedway holding off Brett Moffitt by tenth of a second in the second stage lap seventy-seven problems for championship contender. Johnny Solder Johnny Johnny sauter involved in the incident as well here on the front straight away after John Hunter nemechek shape lap. One fifty two two playoff drivers tangled nor freezing. He said he gets turned around by Matt. CRAPTON prison making contact with the left. Front Becca turn fork the twelfth caution of the evening on lap one ninety four set up a three lap dash to the finish which were bred. MAFA got a good launch on the final restart. The playoff began with a rating series champion. Going Victory Laid Brett Moffitt with at first of all it was the second victory of the year for the two thousand eighteen champ and his first at Bristol later they're gander outdoors. Truck series crossed the border into Canada to raise it the always exciting road course. Canadian tire Motorsport Bar. That will be the fifth off the stage win of the season. Most of playoff drivers fifth stage win for Ross chastain the final stage was dominated by Brett Moffitt who went on to win back to back races in mcandrew outdoors truck series playoffs. They had for the final time back. The turned seven with print leading. Can't even hear the motor. He's going to coast to the line. Brett moffitt one last week at Bristol. Crystal he'll win at Canada two in a row for Brett moffitt huge win Dak races at two completely. Different types of racetracks just speaks measures for everyone. Who who's a part of this this program and we're eliminating through drivers in elimination race number one? What's not to like? The first round ended a week later and Sin City at the LAS. The biggest motor speedway bump stock the poor from the rear other rent and finger machine. Happy engine smokers then finger twice off the track Friday the thirteenth for grant and finger at lap. Five here in Las Vegas. His store sport teammates Matt Craft and Johnny Sauter had similar problems on lap forty one johnny thought her both at four sport truck showing a lot of smoke and now plays under the hood. It was later diagnosed as rear seal issues in the motors of all three thor sport trucks on lap at one twenty two a new contender emerge straw. Jeff thank flip here reassigned. By the time they turn to new race leader off to the hill to the Point Hill went on to lead the final twelve laps in route to his first playoff win and his third victory of the two thousand seventeen season and for the third time in two thousand Nineteen Austin Hill. I always a winner in the Nascar Gander outdoors truck series eliminated from playoff contention 2016 champion Johnny solder and regular season Champ Grant Finger race one second round of the twenty nineteen gander trucks playoffs took place at Nascar's fastest fastest menu loot digging superspeedway and the stands are on their feet green flag in the air. oftentimes the fall truck race data can be chaos but the first stage was relatively relatively clean. The stage saw five passes for the lead. It's Brett mop. It with his sites on Crete trying to take that top spot away off her four. All hard hit for Tyler. tipple was the only incident in stage to read white checkered flag. On the air and Stewart freezing will win stage to the final stage is where the drama picked up and the Big Gordon came on lap. Eighty nine great wrec Jessica good sturt. He gets sucked by create. Now the wrecking on the bottom three four five trucks involved in all started up front the Jeff Dane Gun. He shot that greet make contact. Johnny Sauter took the checkers. Johnny solder went below the yellow line to block but immediately NASCAR SCAR reviewed the finish a few minutes later. It was announced that Spencer Boyd was a first time winner in the truck. Series and Johnny Solder Will Not Win Spencer. Boyd read has won at Talladega from NASCAR's largest track their smallest the trucks made the short John. North of Martinsville Ville speedway for some short track racing in the second race of the round. Flag is in the air. We're underway here at Martinsville and they are side by side to take it turn walk defending champ. Brett often won the first stage while GM teammates. Sam Mayer won the second on lap. One seventeen problems for MOFFITT and others. Tyler Anchorman vowed Austin Hilland Bob. The number of trucks involved in this crash off of turn number two. What it looked like Ross chastain was the class of the Field Todd Gill and got the better of him on a late re-start and cruise to his first victory of his truck racing career or Kyle? Busch motorsports piloted turn final. Cutoff race of the two thousand nine Hundred Nascar Gander outdoors truck series playoffs came at ISM raceway Phoenix. To this point. No playoff eligible driver had won in the second round so no one was locked in their side by side for spot number one. Got The jump in the outside lane talking about Stewart freeze it and he leads by a couple of Golfer. Stuart free started on the Front Row Alongside Championship Hopeful Austin Hill and free dealt with adversity early as NASCAR deemed. He jumped jump. The initial start. Art Is under review. Because you must stay in line until you get to the START FINISH LINE SO NASCAR set. The start is under review. Recent spent the majority of the race. Battling back from the penalty and made impressive moves through the feel bruising. Down the back straight away after having to go to the back. He's on his way to victory. Lane started started second here. Stewart freezing off the corner checkered flag. In the Air Stewart. Freezing wins the Lucas oil one fifty it. ISM raceway at Phoenix. More importantly clearly he will advance to part of the championship for next week at four championship. Weekend freese and went on to win the Lucas Oil. One fifty while Austin Hill and Tyler Ancram were eliminated the championship. Four was set here. We are now in the month of November back back in the sunshine state to wrap it up and crown champion. Ross chest eight Matt. Grafton Brett MOFFITT and Stewart freezing entered Ford Championship weekend with a shot to win the twenty nine thousand nine Gander outdoors truck series championship. Each of the four. Were one hundred thirty four mistake free laps away from winning. The crown h truck is in off. Turn her number four here. They come down to the line. Green flag in the air early on it was clear to see chastain had speed as he led the first twenty eight laps. Only to to have the spoiler of the day Austin Hill come up and steal stage one stage two. It was more of the same. As Austin Hill made it known quickly that the race for the championship happy and chip was most likely going to be a race for second air. They come off turn number four for the final time. Austin Hill brings his truck to the start finish line to through time truck series champ. Matt Grafton showed late in the race he had the better the four championship trucks. Matt crafted crosses the start. Finish line he is the two thousand thousand Nineteen Nascar Gander outdoors truck series champion. There's one champion in the truck series. That has the most championships Ron Horn. Day I know he used to our but whenever whenever I was twenty seven years old and he was fifty years old so at the end of the day. I'm going to truly believe that I'll still be able to identify. Here's the motor racing. Network Congratulates Matt crafted and Force Ford Racing on their Twenty Nineteen Nascar Gander outdoors truck series championship. That my friends Listen back to the two thousand nineteen that's Gander outdoors truck series playoffs as heard right here on the motor racing network. A couple of names. You heard there. Ross chastain and Brett moffitt offense they were prominent figures in the twenty nine thousand nine hundred truck series will hear from them and also coming up. WE'LL RECAP THE NASCAR xfinity series playoffs says well. 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You lost the championship but there is a lot of ugly things that went on behind the scenes and a lot of friendships actually to this day. Download the shows for free on I tunes in Marin Dot com time now for the wheel pit crew member of the leaf my name is TJ Ford an under Jackman for the number eighteen eminem Toyota mistakes evitable in any sport. And and especially when you're trying to go as fast as we're trying to go cow Bush and Adam seasons are really good at is. We had a blazing fast stop. They don't say much. And when we have terrible pitstop they don't say much. They know that we're professionals. Nightly up to us to handle it on the road in the air and around the world we we trusted to be seen trusted to be heard and trusted to perform now back to your host. Mike Bagley welcome back to the NASCAR live on Friday night and Uptown Charlotte all at the NASCAR xfinity in Nascar Gander outdoor struck series held his twenty nineteen award ceremony. Moran's Cow Ricky. was there to speak to some of the top finishers in each of the series about their season and looking forward to Twenty Twenty Nascar Gander outdoors truck series driver. Ross chastain finished second in the championship. Standings yeah yeah I mean Gosh. We didn't see this common. We didn't see the way the affinity cy was going to happen. We didn't I didn't see that we would be able to put together a full season season at least motorsports that let pay for the racist. Let alone go and compete for wins and get win. We needed and and go all the way the homestead with a chance to come up second in and championship fourth on track. I mean my goodness. It's a dream come true. Did you know before the change to the truck series that you we're going to have a legitimate shot at at not just making the playoffs but contending for the title. I assume you did because he made the change for that reason. Right right right. Yeah well I I knew we we. We built a new truck and we took it to Kansas and we won and I knew right then that we were onto something and we you know. Continue to progress along that path with that truck and we were planning on building more one of those trucks up never getting built through no fault of our own but just a manufacturer didn't never produce for us so When elsewhere to our fleet and rebuilt old trucks two of them and went farther down into the championship? Run and with those two in. That's what got us all the way home said so I felt it. Kansas was the first time that we really qualified ahead of twelve on the mound asu qualified. Sixth we got to fourth. We ran forethought. We got the second on the first lap I over drove turn one lap one lap to one I don't know how recount that but ah fell back forth and we ran forth all night and then Brett and grant took each other out and Stewart ran out of gas and we won the race and it was like okay. We can remember these guys. It's like when the when the decision came to switch if nothing else that gave us the three triple truck challenge races and we ended up winning two of those so that alone was worth worth it no matter if we've made one championship or not now once we got into it when the win but then taking one of the races away at Iowa obviously and fifty grand Iran and forty thousand dollars per money but the dip. Oh my Gosh Alma. Shut it down. I mean on speaking. It's not there's not a it's not just because we're here and just talking. Pr Wise it it. It was the truth. He walked into the shop. We all knew this coming. We're all waiting on him that Monday. Or Tuesday morning coming after Iowa and I honestly had no idea what he was going to decide and he came in he said. I've got the paperwork up to shut it down and got it all drawn up but we're GONNA keep going we're gonNA bring we're mad. We're all mad right and we all said yes heck yes and that kind of fueled US farther than we ever could have even without Kyle also spoke with third place Finisher Brett moffitt. You know I feel like everyone at. Gm really pulled together and we started out the year not where we needed to be and everyone on pulled together to be competitive at the end of the year We had two trucks on the final four with us in the fifty. Two which you know is something to be proud of but we need to come out on top so we We're GONNA build off this and be better next year. What were you able to bring to? GM asks that you learned last year championship here. Just think through the years. I've had a lot of experience at different levels And you know it's it's kind of my role to help. Guide the teammates where they need to where they need to learn in and help them out and I had great teammates and Sheldon Creed ensuite freezing. And you know it's just it's all about getting together and being competitive as a whole It's not just throughout the twenty four truck winning it's about fifty two in the to win being successful also so you know I feel like I fit into that role pretty well In looking forward to going into next year and in doing that Tyler Anchorman Zane Smith as well say I feel like you guys are feeling like twenty trucks. Next seems like every other day. There's a press release coming out that Gemma's expanding thoughts on that and how that could strengthen the team yeah. I'm actually really excited about it. I think we've got a lot of good people in places. Now we have a good game implant going into next year. I've personally. This last week has been more stressful than last month of the racing season As far as as putting the pieces together for our next season Having Tyler enzyme come over We got a couple of new crew chiefs that are gonna be working with them But I'm just excited added about. It's it's a lot of good people and I think it's going to elevate the game I think we're in a position where it's kind of always been GM as for KVM. And I feel feel like we're in a really good position to kind of drive that nail home in and be the top dog in the series. I mean fallen off season plans. I like to go skiing. I don't have anything planned yet. But that's my goal so I'd like to go to Colorado and and do a little skiing and just enjoy it that's Brett moffitt from the Nascar Gander outdoors truck series later in the show. We'll we'll hear from some of the NASCAR series drivers from Friday nights award ceremony. But I will recap the two thousand nineteen xfinity series playoffs next. I'm Manda Benedito driver number ninety five precor Toyota Camry on race day. You can save a ton of fuel by drafting in the pack. But you'll never win if you don't stay up on the wheel wheel like in the construction business. 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Thanks for hanging out with us on this week's NASCAR live. Let's turn our focus now to the NASCAR xfinity series series Tyler Rettig when the series championship at homestead Miami speedway earlier this month to recap how we got to our championship moment. Here's our Ednesday Moody. The two thousand nineteen xfinity series playoffs kicked off at Richmond in September with twelve drivers big three member. Christopher Bell dominated the field leading two hundred thirty eight out of two hundred fifty laps earning his seven victory of the season. Yeah I I told everyone in my guys. This is an important race right here because you win this year. Pretty much safe until you get October middle October going to Kansas so This one means a lot and number seven. That's pretty good too with bell. Allow rosval proof and moving on into the next round. All the remaining playoff drivers had to up their game for this challenging track the lead swapped back and forth all race between Austin Syndrome. Cole custer and Christopher Bell. Aj Almond Dinger stole the win but it was a tough day for playoff drivers Ryan Sieg and Justin Haley eighth finished several laps down and put them in must win situations. Th Round of twelve ended at Dover with several playoff drivers finding trouble during the race aches Christopher Bell around the outside Ole sideways almost into the wall. He may have got it. Is Tyler now. Harrison Burton will spin. He'll collect the inside retaining wall of wild start to this one brandon. Jones has also gotten a piece of that is well. He made contact with Harrison Burton on the backstretch spun burnt to the inside odd Brandon Jones. Who need good run? This afternoon has damaged on the front of that Toyota Supra matter of fact the hood has been pushed up so far that I don't even believe Brandon can see out of the windshield and that puts us under the caution flag. Money Lion cautioned number one. That crash eliminated Brandon Jones from the playoff. Christopher Bell exited the race early for carburetor issue. He battled all day but was safely in the next round already several crashes later it was cold custer coming out victorious Ford Mustang now letting it slide off her number two up out against the outside safer barrier it is all Cole accuster at the Front of the field. He eventually the loss of May he led one hundred fifty five laps into spring. And he's going to blow them out of the water. The General Cole custer marches across the start finish line checkered flag is in the air and hope with the future Mellon bribes over two hundred or Brandon Jones Ryan Sieg and Justin Haley. The playoffs ended at Dover after a two week break in Kansas with Cole custer Christopher Bell asserting their dominance over the field they swapped the lead every few laps and has the checkers loomed ahead everyone fought for positions behind cluster. Trying to save in further back John Hundred Ed Tech Jeremy Racetrack as Brad. Joe's walls away with all our second years the battle for third Jay's Chris go go back in the mix behind him. Michael Annett battling with tyler radic purposes in back got it all to himself in third Hoon's goes to the bottom redican Arctic in Briscoe giving it all they've got one last time to the top at three and four years ago. Kristie rebel was the first time winter at Kansas. Let your John Hundred check a first time winter red Kansas and this year if Reverend Jones career first-time winner is he wins. The pimples lottery three hundred here at Kansas speedway wh- one race too late for Brandon Jones as he collected the win in Kansas after being eliminated from the playoffs as good as they action on track was tempers flared post rates and there was A. We've got a Altercation down here. Cole custer came up to Tyler Radic and had some words with Eh then tyler. Radic tried to grab him there on the ground. Now and his Co. custer's on the grand a number of security officials number of crew members are here the co Koster and tolerated going at it here on pit road then the uppers replying and drivers dog here now. It looks yeah. I'm kind of trying to back. The fight continues now. Tyler Graddick is is being held back by some of his crew members. Still cannock down here. It seems that both custer and rettig had different views of what happened. Let's catch up with Tyler. Radic right in the middle of that. May he actually is bleeding in the knuckles incident with Cole. custer what was he trying to tell uh-huh I didn't hear much Before we ever had hands on each other and I told him right away like a hand on me I was GONNA put one back and from there everyone get full worked up. Everyone's upset about what happened. And it turned into a little bit of a scramble from there so Some chief astle behind me. Put me in a chokehold. BLINDSIDE missile off. I catch up with him later. Five one on one. I have no problem with that. Do you have any intention of talking with cold post race. Oh Yeah No. I don't think he and him have the have the issue with each the other it's Older man get involved some else. They really don't have a part in so I get it. We're all invest in this. We all want to achieve Egypt so just the heart rate data going up a little bit harder than I expected that racing Cole custer has made his way all the way back to the garage taller we saw that in town road man. What a scrum what happened? I just wasn't very happy that he couldn't keep his car on the bottom on the restart ran up into the wall and I was just going to go tell them I wasn't very happy and I handle him. Not the rope must put a handle on him and you deserve on me so I don't know I just wasn't very happy with. I think we've got a shot to win this wrong. You're going to be able to brush his offers. This is an incident that might follow you to the next race. I don't know I think we'll see. I guess I don't know I don't think it's something that's worth on the next race. Like I want show. I wasn't very happy apple another two week right before. The extremity regulars got another chance to lock themselves into homestead series headed to Texas where where to play off. Drivers found. Trouble Noah Gregson crashed halfway through and ended his day ten laps later. It was tyler rettig and chase Briscoe bringing being out the caution. It ended rex race but BRISCO was able to continue on and finished several laps down. Christopher Bell in another dominating performance woman's claimed the victory and was the first driver walked into racing for the championship at homestead. The pressure was on at Phoenix. As three more drivers had an opportunity to race for the title. The Big Three showed up and led most of the race with minimal cautions. Until just an all decided he wanted to race at homestead. It was go to make sure he got there. That's got boxed in battling with those two lap cars that in racist the gap. We're not GONNA be enough for custer. Old Guy are going to try and punch his ticket to Miami. I only with this. I win at a year for the first time in twenty nine thousand nine hundred Justin all guy or comes off. It'll turn number four and will receive the checkered flag. Then we'll win the desert time in West Valley Casino Two hundred at ISM raceway. He will punch his ticket to the championship. Four and run for the title next week at Homestead Miami speedway. He wins today again. Phoenix as we go to not necessarily for The spot at homestead. But for all these guys right here The personality the drive the ambition that they've had all year to not on the finishes that we wanted. I feel like it's been forever since we've been to victory lane. I'll be honest with you like twenty to go. I started hearing things. I was seeing things. I I don't know it was. It was crazy but to our pit crew guys did a great job. These guys right here frame tastic. I wouldn't WanNa be with anybody else right now but championship four was set and just an Geyer Christopher to propel tyler rhetoric and Cole custer went to homestead duct bite it out like it had been all season. It was a battle between the big three. Until the very end Tyler rettig Christopher Bell swapped the lead back and forth all day with a handful of debris cautions throughout as the laps dwindled down. It was the big three leading once again. How what a battle? What a military health nineteen months to go at all the move into turn one tyler? Radic knife the bottom slides under Cole custer slides up the banking all the way live to me. It's got the Litas. They hit the backstretch but backups discomfort. Cluster pulled the crossover not going to be able to stick it though this time. No he'll drive into three hard drives by the middle of Rennick in the center of the quarter back across the Knows the lead. And here's Rennick back to the bottom sly jobs are us right now at homestead Miami speedway I it's rather than its custer. Now it's back. The bottom riddick lead eighteen to go. Hi Laura Rennick on his way to becoming a two time NASCAR series champion. Go right rear that Chevy Camaro Arrow leading on that safer barrier here. He comes out of corner number. Four checkered flag is in the air. Before ego boost. To three hundred and end the two thousand Nineteen Nascar xfinity series championship belongs took Tyler Rettig. twenty-three old from Corning California. What a race? Oh what a night for Tyler. RETTIG who will go back to back to the car xfinity series. Let's go to pit road but this car deserves and that's in victory lane that's on the championship stage age and an owner's championship. Well on which Shields Racing's fiftieth year. And what does it mean to win in. Richard Childress fiftieth year. It's everything it's so cool to come on this St my first year and it'd be its fiftieth year means even more to deliver on the fifth year. This team. Where for so much has happened and it just incredible? Be Part of the same but twenty nine team season an and did with back-to-back extending series championships for Tyler rettig. He'll move to the cup series next year. Staying with Richard childress racing and driving driving number eight Chevrolet hoping that the momentum of the last two years stays with him that is the NASCAR xfinity series playoffs on the motor racing network coming up. We'll hear from Christopher Bell and Cole custer and later we'll check in with this week in Nascar history progressive presents yet. Talked talked inspiration to help you do insurance stuff. Hey get your head in the game. This ain't no exhibition match. This is for real. 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No matter what you're building Brokaw can help you finish ahead of the competition now. Back to Mike Bagley. Thanks for joining us on on. This week's NASCAR live earlier in the show we heard from the second and third place finishers in the Nascar Gander outdoors truck series. Now let's hear from third place. Finisher sure Christopher Bell in the NASCAR xfinity series are ricky had a chance to catch up with bill and Uptown Charlotte just very disheartening. To end the way that we did Winning fifteen races over two seasons and no championships go with it is pretty disheartening. But the way the format is you can't dwell over it too much and I'm very exactly. Yeah it's it's really. It was a great two years. Let's look ahead Obviously a lot folks talking about that cup rookie season next year. I'm excited about the rookie class for the most part the same guys you've been running with here. Yeah it'll be. It should be really good race. Rookie of ear. It's inter- it's going to be interesting to see how it all plays out. Obviously the cars are totally different. I feel like one of the things that we're going to get spoiled with xfinity eighty series or the composite bodies. They're pretty easy to make contact and get away with it in the cup cars. It doesn't really work that way. Has that transition started yet. Not Really I've I've taken some time off and plan on taking a little bit more and then getting going here in December talk about some of that time off obviously sprint car racing this past week or midget racing over in California. I had to go obviously second Larson the second night. Yeah Cao Cao got a big one actually paid a lot of money okay so that was disappointing to win. But I was really happy. Obviously starting with team with Tucker Boat motorsports Trying to get prepared for the Chili Bowl and Larson Larson's Scott his new deal going onto the going to be a change of pace both of us driving teams and hopefully we can hit the ground running obviously this past week in the Chili Bowl. Not Part of the NASCAR season season. But how much of this are you able to do next do you. Are you hoping to do in Your Cup rookie year. They've they're allowing you to race. My schedule schedule is going to be obviously limited quite a bit just for the fact of there's more races a cup races on Sunday so that limits me from going racing sprint cars on Sunday. So won't get to do you as much. But we'll still get to do some initiating second in the NASCAR xfinity series standings was the general. Cole custer Yeah I mean it was a great year I mean winning seven races and and I can't thank enough on our team for making really fast. Race cars racing jihadists and all his support so I think I'm looking forward to next year and learning learning that kind of challenge in the Cup series but I mean yeah just an incredible year and I wish we're one spot better like you said but we'll take it what clicked from last year to this this year. You mentioned you know the seven wins one in the past but never you know five six seven times on a season. Yeah I think Mike Ship what coming on and Arlene Engineer Daven. I think they brought a lot of experience to our team and also I think it was my third year and I kind of knew what I wanted when I show up to the race track. So it's kind of a combination of everything. Come together. Talk to Christopher rebel moment ago. We're going to talk to tyler Medicare and a bit. That's the rookie class or next year. Also yourself excited to make that move up to NASCAR's top series and do you feel ready after a couple of years here. Nixon it deserves. Yeah Yeah for sure. I think I'm really looking forward to it. It's definitely a new level in a definitely challenged. So there's definitely Wa- stuff for me to learn and study so. I'm looking forward to doing that over the off season getting ready for Daytona. But it's going to be. Yeah I mean we have great cars at us. HR So I'm looking forward to it in being around the industry like you have been obviously with a with a S. Hr What do you think the biggest challenge will be in making a move to a cop car. I think the biggest challenge is that in this series race in about ten guys in and the Cup series race in about twenty five. So there's a lot more of dealing with traffic and everything that comes with dirty air and crazy restarts and stuff like that so it's GonNa be a lot of just kinda used to that off season plans here before now and your first Daytona five hundred pretty much going back home for Thanksgiving and then kind of traveling around New Year's and Christmas also but other than that I mean just pretty much going to be at the shopper in the simulator trying to get ready that's called customer from Friday nights. Twenty nineteen NASCAR xfinity series awards awards ceremony and Uptown Charlotte still to come on NASCAR live. We'll look back on this week. IN NASCAR 'EM RN's classic races body. It gets pushed up the Bobby Labonte spun across the line and got the win fifty years of Nascar Racing Hall beautiful after down here and they throw a beach and the actual voices legendary Raysut. There'll simply what happened. Just hope he chokes on that two hundred thousand. That's all I can tell. 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The country charts with his only number number one hit I can help crime dramas Hawaii five O and Barnaby Jones captured viewers on CBS. Prime time murder on the Orient Express is killed him at the box office and the Oscars nabbing six nominations at the forty seventh academy. Awards and Bobby Allison was the Ontario Motor speedway speedway express driving a penske prepared matador to the checkers and the La Times. Five hundred as Richard Petty claimed his Fifth Cup title in Southern California California. What an amazing finish like five cars to be together Alison ways? She's waving to the crowd as he crosses the line. Bobby Allison and the American Motors Doorstep Car Factory Cars Matador today at fifteen senators and play the last race with a three and a half billion dollars jury very thousand one. Toby Keith gets a word in edgewise on country radio with I wanNA talk about me. George Harrison passes inspiring global sadness from the Beatles faithful. 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Rolling in the Deep Auburn Rebounds from Twenty Four Zip to beat Alabama Twenty eight twenty seven at had the seventy fifth annual iron bowl in Tuscaloosa the largest comeback in series history and Jimmy Johnson came ready to claim his fifth championship rope while Carl Edwards was determined to dominate and win the Ford four hundred at homestead Miami speedway preview view of what the Ford guys have planned for next season and Jimmy Johnson wrote history last year by winning a fourth consecutive championship. He'll do it again today by winning. Fifth Jeff Consecutive Sprint Cup Series Championship. Here in four championship weekend and those are just some of the events from this week in NASCAR NASCAR is sturdy. Thank you susie. Hard to believe. Two Thousand Nineteen is in the books but there is one important matter that needs to be tended to and that's crowning rounding the Monster Energy Nascar Cup series champion. Kyle Busch. That happens next week in Nashville Tennessee. 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Five days six days a couple days And so we are Were IN WARREN. Self Quarantine. Here is following What the Canadian government and health officials and the people I work with say to do so I am sure I'm not alone in this kind of stuff. Both cabinet the United States and Then weren't some pretty extraordinary times my guest on this podcast I wanted to do something. That's at least serve service oriented and it's a conversation with Dr Selene Gander who's a Practicing HIV infectious disease specialist and internist and One of the really really smart people when it comes to Cova nineteen she is currently working as a CNN analyst and she also host the podcast epidemic. Would Dr Selene gown and Ronald Clean Husband? Who HAS BEEN ON THIS PROGRAM? Anytime is grant wall one of the preeminent soccer riders in this country and senior writer at sports illustrated and the host of planet football. And we'll show here a sort of a conversation On what people should be doing right now what? Selene SORT OF CONFIDENCE. Level isn't flattening. This curve how all this stuff relates to sports what it's like for grant to be married And living with an infectious disease doctor and how that just sort of impacts his life and their lives. So I think And the Olympics as well which lean is very very You'll hear her opinion. On this. And sort of the recklessness of what the said so far so this is a different podcast on a traditional media. Podcast but I wanted to do something. That was a little more I just thought sort of valuable for you guys. As opposed to just do straight sports media. Podcast so Dr Selene counter and grant wall coming up on the sports media. Podcast right as I said at the top This is sort of This is going to be a different podcast given the conditions that we are now as I mentioned. I am in Self Quarantine in Toronto having traveled to the AD states last week. And doing my best practice. social distancing and everything else Selene and let's make sure that I pronounce this right gown. Her my correct on that selene. That's correct as I said earlier practicing. Infectious disease specialist an internist and You know I keep screwing up the PD How do how do I PRONOUNCE EP? I O. L. O. G. I S. T. epidemiologist epidemiologist? Or I didn't WANNA screw it up. First so epidemiologist and she is currently working. I think as many people now in the country knows a CNN analyst on this she's also the host of a podcast epidemic with DR slain gowned Ronald Clean That is when I highly recommend grant wall. Her husband has been on this podcast. A number of times I used to host podcast with grant as well as worked for him for a more than a decade. He's a senior writer at sports illustrated and the host of Planet Football They were an interesting couple. Prior to this they've become that much more interesting in In the era now Corona Virus Art Selena. I will start with you and again I know you are. Your time is very very valuable so I appreciate you. Pop It on to this Very Niche podcast. But what is as as we are taping. This Tuesday afternoon on March seventeenth. What is the most important thing people can do right now? Who would be listening to this? I think people need to believe this is real back. When I was working in a bola aid worker in west Africa there was a lot of controversy there as to whether Ebola was real and we literally had campaigns telling people yes this is real. Yes you need to take this seriously and here in the. Us We were saying all. These people are superstitious. Stupid they don't know they're talking about and unfortunately we're in a very similar parallel situation here so I would say. This is very real. We are very concerned rich. I'm GonNa read you a text message. I from a friend of mine last night. Who the young woman who? I met her She's training in residency at one of the Boston hospitals and she reached out. She says in her text message. Sorry for the delay have been called in his backup for six sick exposed residents. Yes have seen all terrifying everyone here. Similarly enveloped in dread dozens already furloughed several floors out of hand sanitizer and gloves and the hospital is running low on personal protective equipment. They're asking us to reuse it and then she goes on. She says I asked her. I said wow are you okay. And she says Yes but I was exposed. I tested negative. But I'm a bit scared and I asked her. How long ago were you? Exposed says four days while the average incubation is five to six days so testing negative actually doesn't mean very much right now here in New York I know some of the hospitals have run out of the ninety. Five respirator masks. Doctors and nurses are having to use those loose-fitting surgical masks. And that's not really the appropriate use. They should be using the respirator masks to protect themselves. Those surgical masks are to put on sick patients. That they don't transmit to other people and I am profoundly concerned and really worried about my colleagues and our ability to meet the need And to do so safely I think this is a very scary situation and I just hope people can take this seriously because what we need to do is reduce the impact. This is going to have on the health system. I think already. We're going to be overwhelmed but people not taking this seriously means there's going to be that much more transmission in the community and hospitals are going to be that much. It's going to be that much more of a crisis that we're going to be facing. Yeah what really scares me. I mean a lot of things sort of scare me. What scares me what I think scares me. The most is one the The potential for our medical people to be exposed to this And then to and. I think this is real to the sort of the the mental stress on the same medical people which is not often discussed about. But you're going to have doctors and nurses and in public health people putting in endless endless hours so they're not gonNA get proper sleep. That probably died is not going to be great. And then they have the potential to To contract this one more for Houston and then I'll get to grant and that is you know being in Toronto. But obviously the access to all the American news channels and I can certainly read stories from different cities. It does seem at least anecdotally than in the last twenty. Four to forty eight hours as we are taping. This that far more people have actually have started to take this this more seriously. If that's the right thing Certainly in the major cities that I've seen that said use and grant you're welcome to come in on this too but you still see scenes as I did yesterday from clearwater where there are thousands and thousands of spring breakers out there you know partying away as if this is another day so I realize you're in New York. Selene and you can sort of focus on what you can focus in New York but have you gotten any sense even for maybe talking to people around the country has the severity of this kicked in or we do. We still need waves and waves of public education to convince people that this is real. It's not just the flu or seasonal thing. I think in the big cities most of them has people have have seen that. This is real. I think in much of the rest of the country is not real yet You know and I just want to add before Iran. You know what I was saying earlier. I think what you need to understand about in terms of mental stress on healthcare providers. Yeah we're we're used to working long hours tough conditions and caring for very sick people. What's GONNA be different about? This is on top of that. We're going to be seeing our own. People we work with everyday are going to be. The people were caring for so imagine having to do that. For Your family for people close to you on top of everything else. I can't tell you how that's going to be crushing about this. On top of everything else I can only imagine grant What a what is it like living with an infectious disease disease? Dr In the time of a pandemic what is what. What have you noticed about selene? and how do you? I mean does it make you more. Hyper aware of everything that's going on. I imagine the answer to that is yes. What what other impact does it have on you? I mean the best thing for me to say is I view. My number one job right now is to support her and doing the things that she needs to do. A really important for the public now. A lot of that has been her work on. Cnn doing media work getting out the word on what people should be doing to combat this as a community. But I'm making sure I cook enough and that she eats making sure that she sleeps. Just trying to do all the little things around where we live here in our apartment in New York so that she doesn't have to do them and I'm also trying to do my own job because I'm working from hall. I'm lucky that I'm able to be able to do that but You know we can probably be getting more sleep most of these nights and You know we're trying to keep on top of things with our family. I have a father and his early eighties in southern Arizona. Who is like? I'm sure if so many people out there No were have family members who are in really potentially dangerous age brackets for this so Because I haven't affects disease Dr Wife. I'm able to sort of maybe be ahead of the curb a little. You know. This is day seven for me. Up Home Lockdown in New York and I don't know if that many other people in New York about home lockdown that long. But it's something that she said. Look no no more trips to the gym. No more restaurant visits. She ordered a rowing machine for me. Ten days ago and so I'm able to get exercise inside but I do not leave. Our apartment. Haven't left our apartment except for two trips to the GROCERY STORE GRANT. How has How how is being with Selene? Impacted your thinking on where you think sports. And let's just even specified because of your expertise on where you think soccer will be in terms of the potential of starting again whether you want to take it domestically or nationally. I mean given who you live with. I think you'll probably you would have a better realistic interpretation of this than than than many other people and certainly many other sports media people. Yeah in terms of the Olympics. Here's one example where I remember in the two thousand Sixteen Olympics. We were concerned about Zeka and Selena actually wrote a piece for sports illustrated beforehand saying arguing that the Olympics in twenty sixteen should not have been postponed Because mosquitoes weren't going to be that big of an issue. That was the right call. Obviously the Olympics went ahead and happened but as recently as three four weeks ago or I mean as long ago as three or four weeks ago slim was telling me that she thought it would be very unlikely that the twenty twenty Olympics in Tokyo would happen She could see where this was going. She saw what was happening in. China spread to Europe. And everything that's happened since then his sort of followed that so you know. Am I happy that she was ahead of the curve on knowing this stuff? I don't have a happy the right word but I mean like she at least kind of she. She knew this was likely to be coming in. This is going to be a long term situation here that we're going to have to assess maybe every two weeks just to see how long we're going to have to keep up the social distancing stuff and how long among other things sports league's going to have to be postponed or major events In soccer We just found out today. That euro twenty twenty in the Copa America. This summer were being postponed for a year I think it's very likely the Olympics will do something similar And so Listen to your public health experts. All I would say to anyone who's running sports leagues and I think for the most part. Most Sports Leagues have listened to that Selene. What is your assessment of The IOC saying At least as we're taping this that they do not WanNa make any drastic pronouncements about Moving or cancelling the two thousand twenty Olympics in Tokyo. I think it is reckless to hold an Olympics in Tokyo. At that point in time I think It's it's completely unrealistic And I think I mean I'm not a business person so I don't I you know I can't speak to the financial costs of what that would mean to delay or postpone or cancel but from a public health perspective. The idea of people coming from all over the world mixing together. I mean I have some understanding of what the Olympic villages are like that alone. You know even without spectators is really it's an incubation it's an incubator for renewed transmission even if we're in a better position by then. I think that's a really bad idea or at a couple more here than I'll let you guys go. I know Selene your your your time on. All these days is very valuable. What is your What is your confidence level right now. Selene in flattening this curve. And when would an honest a realistic assessment be of the curve flattening if major cities and in smaller cities around the country take social distancing and Not Gathering with more than fifty more than ten people at a time if we if most of the population I realized might not happen but if most of the population takes this stuff seriously. What is what is something realistic in terms of win? This curve could start to flatten. It's GONNA take weeks we're still in the exponential phase of this so even if the measures are working in say two weeks I would anticipate numbers are still going to be going up if you go back and look at data from the nineteen eighteen Spanish flu and you look at different parts of the country. That did this and that didn't do this. And remember we were much less urban. We were much less connected at that point so it was more possible to be. You know your own community somewhat independent of other places relatively speaking and there it took basically eight weeks of very rigorous social distancing measures to really curb transmission. Then when you lifted them. Many places had a a second wave of cases that then required reinstituting some of those measures for a period of time again. So I think that's probably what we're looking at. I think F- Ouchi Dr Fao. She has intimated that as well. I think it's hard for people to perhaps take all of that in at once and so I think that's part of the reason for saying look you know we're GonNa have to reevaluate and we have to reevaluate. No matter what Excuse me sorry all the talking. We have to reevaluate no matter. What because what we may be doing now may not even be enough so we. It's it's not just about oaken. We lift our measures in two weeks. Do we need to clamp down even more And I think unfortunately truly flattening the curve the way other countries have done I don't know that we can even do it. South Korea has done Which was pretty amazing I think the real question is you know. How much are we going to be worse than Italy or are we on part of the Italy and I think realistically that's that's what we're facing now? Well all right last one. We'll start with grant and then we'll end with selene because your your sort of perspectives will be different on this grant. it's my thought that this will sort of profoundly changed sports forever even if we go back to you know for lack of better word. Normalcy I think people for a long or you're going to think a little bit about do I go to games? Do I go to Do I sit in crowds with this? Many people If you're an athlete what kind of contact do I have with in terms of handshaking and hugging and everything else? I just think that it it has to psychologically even if we get back to a little bit of a normalcy it has to impact all this I know I'm asking impossible question here but you know. What do you foresee in this whole idea of? How Sports May Fundamentally Change You know once once this knock on wood once this passes yeah. It's a great question and I've always thought it's good to say I don't know if I don't have an answer. I don't know and part of me thinks that after going along period without having sports that we'll find a great amount of joy whenever we do have it again and hopefully use this experience however long it takes to think about what's really important in how we need to be better prepared for global pandemics As a society not really in a sports context but you know also to to take this stuff seriously and Alan and make sure our our leaders are prepared. Make sure they're accountable. Make sure that All of us look at this as trying to do. What's best for our community? You know this is really divided country and I hope we can come together and fight this. Because that's the only way that will minimize the damage which already looks like it's going to be extremely extensive and And take a lot of lives. Selena Week do you think are we ever going to? I mean it is. The new normal basically may be approaching sports in a different way particularly in in big crowds or is it realistic to two or three years from now that people will go to a baseball game or football game with fifty thousand people in and it'll it'll be the same as it was two years ago three years ago. I do think it would actually be a good thing. If this led us to reconsider how we do certain things not necessarily sports though you know I think it should be something we. I think we should consider whether we should be working from home. Or if you look at the impact on transportation pollution you can have a real impact on that kind of thing and it's actually very good for working families to have those kinds of flex. Sorry those kinds of flexible working options. So I think that's really important. I think also how we deliver medicine. Can we do more of that remotely? Can we loosen up some of the nonsensical state to state restrictions just nationalize you know how we regulate medical licensing and things around that so that this is more feasible to do? I think those are important things I do think the new normal is that for a whole host of reasons. Some of it is globalization. Some of it is climate change impacts on the environment. We know this. We've already seen it. Over the last few decades pandemics epidemics are occurring more and more frequently. That is going to continue to be the case. And unfortunately we still haven't seemed to learn our haven't seen to have learned our lessons from the last two experiences you know namely I should say three experiences with Zeka and Ebola and a twenty one flew and really though should've been warnings as to how we should be better prepared. This is not a situation where you do a one time injection of funding you address the issue and then you defend. This is something it would be like saying. Okay we have no military nine. Eleven happens now. Let's build up a military for a year or two and then get rid of the military. I mean that's been the approach and that is a completely nonsensical ineffective way to be dealing with these issues. That's really well said Dr Selene. Gown under is a practicing infectious disease specialist. She's currently working As in many has many factors Is a CNN on our analyst. Right now she also hosts the podcast epidemic with Dr Sling Gown Ronald Clean Find that on I tunes. I think it's probably one of the most listened to medical podcasts in the world right now. she was joined by someone. I know for a long time colleague who I respect. Tremendously Grant Wall senior writer at sports illustrated and the host plant football They are married and they are Living Pretty interesting lives. I cannot think thank you guys enough. graeme please make sure selene gets rest and sleep. We really need her to be on her game over the next couple of months. Quite frankly if you're not on your game grant. I don't care but I need selene to be absolutely on her game for all of us I can't thank you enough. I'm thinking about both you guys and wishing you Nothing but the best of health heading. Thanks so much today for joining me on the sports media. Podcasts are back after talking with Selene grant and I cannot thank them enough for their time. It's very busy time for selene. as you can imagine Head to the cause. If you're interested in sports media conversations the last podcast we did prior to this. Was John Rand on Tony. Romo and that breaking the bank contract and all the impact of that And they just go down the list of of our interviews we to tiffany green and Meghan. Mcpeak were pioneers To women of Color and broadcasting play-by-play sort of makes them credible unique business jamie little and Shannon speak uncovering the Daytona five hundred covering Kobe Bryant powered back Tin Kau Commie back in January. Where the world to two different We did the producer and director of the Super Bowl. Basically how you one produces directs the Super Bowl so head to the richer dykes The Sports Media Richard Daij page. Leave us a review foster and It helps keeps podcast around. Get my thanks To Patrick Antonetti Shaun Cherry stepping up huge on this one. Thanks everybody caged thirteen. They're safe Chris. Corporate Sponsor Brown John. Derek we will see you again very soon on the sports media.
French Trump Weekly Press Conference June 26, 2020
"And now we take you live to French. Trump's weekly press conference. Desire French. Trump's consists of many of you here today. Let us begins if French trump presidential press, NFL, wrongs. Incoming. Is. Sorry I drifted off. Yes, you! Gary Gander New York ABC, did you ask the health and Human Services Department to slow down covert nine thousand nine hundred testing. We are so far ahead of in a contract with that testing. Luxembourg even plans on only doesn't six hundred thousand of people so ask think. That that's the whole population of Luxembourg six hundred thousand people. They are testing their entire population. Did you ask HHS to slow the testing here in the United States? Matton. Galli Zee, Zim or you test Zim. More cases go to. We've done a fabulous job. No other country is a world. Puerto Rico Puerto Rico for example Puerto. Rico the United States territory sir? What does that mean generally? Does that mean? I'm supposed to piss around it next course Jon. Next question, Mr President! I assure. President radio you you. Get You yes Carla Yamamoto with Riva dirty. Why serve you suspended foreign work visas? Employers would no longer be able to supplement the workforce as they have for years with summer, workers from out of the country or specialized tech people or even not pairs. Zik Do not need a pair of maybe of said only taken one. I would still let some. Graham but to get. A next. Nicer. Here yes Mr President Sir. The federal government is cutting funding for. COVID nineteen testing sites in five states most of them serving low income communities. Isn't that slowing testing down? Unidas this down. I didn't call on. You was about two grams. If push call on this lovely report that run here whereas bill bar. Where's my Roy Cohn? Bill Bar can with tear-gas gallery. Next question. John. Incident Mr. MR, President Mr President. What tear this this woman. This girl right here. Yes, he's all runs from the Lincoln Journal Star. Mr President in response to your accusation. That former President Obama committed treason senator Lindsey. Graham said quote I. Don't know what he's talking about. I don't have any evidence to believe. He committed treason unquote. What do you have to say to that? Is, Fan which Wa. I let him says that sometimes at tell him he can say. He disagrees with Wa then he can tell swing voters I. Stand up to trump just as my balls metaphorically speaking Knicks West John. John. Lester. Capacity. What Justice Emmett Manning New York News Day. Mr President to members of your secret service detail tested positive after your Tulsa rally requiring dozens of the secret service to be ordered to self quarantine in the aftermath. Do you regret pushing forward with a rally to put so many at risk? I don't toy gratitude. I feel fine. That is exactly what does best to happen Emmett. Everyone says French trump is destroying our system. No system is working. See Secret Service is supposed to S- rose himselves in front of. When a bullet is coming towards more or a knife or a poisoned dart or a raging font or evict covid, nineteen respiratory droplet is coming towards la C- system is working. Secret Service members took the job. It can't be all running barbells. It's at trump hotel and these things. There is on Bonte next question next question. As you. Yes, yes, Carla Motor with Riva dirty again. You keep, says you keep that it's testing that is causing the increase in the number of covid nineteen cases, however, the number of deaths in hospitalizations is on the rise faculty as well if we opened up too quickly, ignoring the recommendations of the task force and bringing our hospitals to the brink of overwhelm. We. Don't wonderful job butts. Effect News does not report that we were on the brink of being overwhelmed by meet Craven Carnivores with no hell cuts us. US Made America great again. Besides many of those people are thinking eat. I saw some of the moving. It is dead bull fraud next question next question Mr President. I. Thank you emigrating again. Mr President. Sixty five could be members from George Washington University Law School. Attorney general bars Amman says he failed to fulfill his oath. He didn't take an earth. He is an earth, but he has a lovable OAF zoo. He drives his car. He's feet I love that. Not Oath Oath. Oath Oh. Oh. Well. He fulfilled his Earth two. I couldn't be happier with him. He says that I can use be prosecuted and he got some sweat. Dale's for Roger Stern Michael Flynn. Presidential Medal of freedom away from Zach weakling rush limbaugh and give it to bill bar next question John Nice. Was Giannis prepared? Yeah yes, you. Mr President Tony Romo ABC. News, thank you very much Mr President. You Valerie much chance right Tony's Edison Railway Quest Ma. Did you all have Tony began? Go, ahead Tony go ahead. I loved on Roma, guide. You said you were going to hire the best people, but you change your mind and fire so many of them like Jeff Sessions Michael Cohen General. Jim Mattis General John Kelly and now John. Bolton you say they are stupid, Lazy and incompetent. Do you think you might not be very good at the job of hiring people? I, you very good at your job -Tuni- Roma Matt Tony Roma's pizza was called last night than it had too much garlic some Malania with not come anywhere near Wa. I sent to Hera I said. Why will you not come anywhere near more? Melania is garlic, and she said way, Donald it is the garlic next question. John. Impressive Mr President. Yeah, yes, Mr President Gary Gander. NEW YORK AP MR president. Did you tell H H s to slow down the testing of covid nineteen? What. Is this still doing. Bill you. Do not have any lamb basinger pass for this enemy of ZIP. This press conferences although no questions I'm going to inspect my poker until this guy is deserved. 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French Trump Weekly Press Conference July 10, 2020
"And now we take you live to French trump's weekly press conference. Desire? French twelve I'm here for the French trump. Presidential press called Foul Ross Ashley I'll take questions from ZIP press. Briefing! Thank you. Mr President Gary Gander from New York. AP Excerpts from the book written by Your. Niece Mary trump are being read to viewers all over the news. It says so it was it. Was Bad. That's her job. That's being man niece at filed hell. Pit Bull session became a drug addict. She was never a good niece, and she was at Tara Belco Zan. ovonic came to me crying. She said back. Then she is not fun to be with. She will not play the Bison politician or Texas Texas. Where Jehad's e Texas game, she will not start your pitchers. You taught us to do pop papa. And I reached out to her. Tear my hand balance. Casserole of visual products and I couldn't get it out I. Get a blow torch. My hand is stuck in. No it won't burn my pointed towards more Ivanka's face. She won't. Please Environment Next West John Question Mr. President. Thank you Mr President. Tony Romo with ABC News. How Tony Romance, Spring Avenue Pepper! Pizza, Tony Remind. Yes, go ahead. Thank you. Mr President of the Supreme Court has ruled that President in this case you are not immune from the New York grand jury process. How do you feel about that I'll tell you how I feel about Zet turney. At feels that Michael. Cohen, who testified before Congress is more change the value of my property tax forms to lower. My Texas should not offer anything from Amazon. Don't order food to be delivered Mac Alco Cohen in fact Moco and you might want to create a secret nook. Some things like Knickknack Nook Hell Michael. Cohen I am not carrying any explosive device says may I coming and when I found out, which justices voted against me, they will soon open a package. That's will receive in the mail and I. Don't Remember Ordering Horse's head. That's how I feel next question. Of Can. Resin? Thank you Mr President. Giovane from buzzfeed news. In Mary Trump's book. She says you paid a guy named Jones Shapiro. To Take your sat's for you. She's always log at Nexus. She was a drug addict. That never bed Josiah pillow. Question! Yes you. Take the President Emmett manning from New York Newsday. Wide House. Press Secretary Kaley mcenaney said the Republican convention that you are planning to take place in Jacksonville Florida will be a safe event and a good event to head of Tulsa. County health. Department says that your rally held in Tulsa Oklahoma where the CDC recommendations were not followed. Likely contributed to the area's recent spike. Was your rally in Tulsa a safe event, I didn't get sick, so yes, a single wishes. Hey! Nice question Mr President. Thank. You yes, you thank you. Thank you Mr. President here Gary Gander again. New York AB in Mary. Trump's sir too much and never enough the title. She and it should be noted that she has a PhD in clinical psychology. She described you as meeting all of the criteria for being a narcissist. What is your reaction to that sir? Maui x young is that I'm very handsome and smart. I had the largest crowd ever at my in general. You are so lucky to have me as your present. Don't I am more elite since. I went to an Ivy League school. McKell A best economy. Many people says I have done Zim. Best job was covid nineteen of any one of world leaders. WHO said that sir? We'd love to talk to them. You can't. They're dead Nice question. Depression! Thank you. Mr President it's Tony. Romo with ABC News again. the CDC put out guidelines for opening schools, and you said they were too difficult and insisted up. The CDC create new guidelines that are easier to comply with. Can you give us an example about those guidelines would be shot. Tony lack Wednesday, sing -sition, not be facing one another there and let's say are more than six inches apart. That's important. Excuse me, MR, president. What problem does that solve? When would they sing facing each other at a distance of fewer than six inches? All! Tony's get together and zoo to Sonny and Cher impressions. Love won't Pay Ront. Befall at around our money's been spent. Ask set, so we don't have a plus. But, at least I'm sure those things we got Babb I've got you babe I've got you the next question next West Young. You Spitzer president. What other recommendations have you made to keep? Our students enter school personnel safe from covid nineteen. Well, I'll tell you I told you. I'd love to see a picture of more up in every class rim I mean I don't have covid nineteen and it may well as at a skirt to. Oh! Kids don't have to spend so much time as classroom taking tests, you could just have one person takes a test and rods. Accuser seem fair. I can get a guy next question next. Mr. Van. Thank you Sir I'm just following up on my colleague's question. Why wouldn't we simply follow the CDC's Instructions on an issue as fraught with risk as sending our children back to school during pandemic Mr President? Why should the safety guidelines come from? You have no medical background, and in fact, at one point thought covid nineteen was something the Democrats had made up. You have no expertise. appliqued, you have to cover Z.. Republican convention in Jacksonville Florida. Won't be a mask in set and instead of balloon drop way are dropping ragweed and map. People will love it. This is America Garrick Ganda Our and if people want to die from Covid, not tins. That's exactly what they get to do. I'll show you my expertise youth fake news fucking town crier. I'll have done. Junior unleashes girlfriend kimberly and she will do as Sonny and Cher on pressure on two inches from your chicken lips. This press conference is over. This has been a live broadcast of French trump's weekly press conference. A podcast network.
Episode 5. Kath and Lexi. (Come From Away Broadway fans)
"Hi I'm Laura, and this is meanwhile on our plane my weekly Fan podcast about all things come from away. Welcome to episode five ISO as a hug you during I k some niece this week writers, David Narine. Taking Paul in by signal, which is a celebration of new Jewish musical theater. The event is going to be hosted live in London with A. Small audience on David Narine will be joining a live video link. You can book to watch the Free Livestream at the J, W free website and his twenty four September I in talking of livestream Rachel. Tucker has been in pitches from harbor her SOS from Russia with Jon. Allen Jones next week on the twenty third at nine thirty PM. So make sure. To book tickets if you haven't already or say this week on Monday Jenn, Colella is going to be part of lights up on voter mobilization with a whole host of other. Broadway Stars in public speakers to livestream will share actionable steps overnight and registered voters, breakdown candidates, positions on climate issues, and explore the intersection of environmental and racial justice issues you can. Watch the event on playboy. Dot. com or at Grade Way Green Dot com we finally got some positive fitness in London this week I mean I had to read a few times to make sure it was real for Nymex are going to be opening six theaters backup in London in November, which means attend of shows such as six and everybody's talking about Jamie. Now, but we'll be doing this loss but thinking long term this decision more safe than having to make redundancies under his train staff and also will help businesses in London currently struggling. As yet, we have no news about come away but I'm excited that it's a star of getting I fit back in London an odd really recommend six Jamie as well such one shows. My recommendation. This week is going to be cameo, which is a website where you can buy personalized video is from your favorite Broadway and West End Staus as various people from the west end cast on there, and also Jenn Colella and charge Jimbo from Broadway costs have come from Wirel- now. Well, I yes. is a really good way of getting a pass unless message full and I can get one for you of our friend. So yeah, highly recommend. You can check out cameo don't come bonus. Recommendation is that Roadway Mania virtual to company of done a couple of my nowhere in honor of the comfort ways returning home nineteen years ago. Today is really really good and I'll put in conscription. So can watch it. This week's interview is with Lexi and calf to come from away fans from New York Hi t to to introduce ourselves. Soon although I, my Kathleen, I am a huge come from way fan from New York, United States, and I've seen come from way now. Twelve. Times. Bronwyn. So and I'm like see and I'm also a huge come from van and I've also seen the Broadway cast's twelve times and every time you've seen them as it if he said it's. Yeah, pretty much buster ago it's it's our thing. And did you know each of a free for by know we've been best friends for seven years Alex Alexi. She just moved out here. The anniversary of when she moved out to New York was just a couple of days ago. So she's been here three years now, and one of the things that we decided to do when she moved out is that I was a theater fan she's theater fan I will New York. City. So close. So let's make it a point to start. Actually seeing theater live theater and we went to see the spongebob musical which is. I love it. All my gosh hold such song. By heart and it has the same themes has come from away when you think about it like community coming together in a crisis making what you can out of a bad situation highness. Kindness and love and accept positively as well. All the things we need right now. So unfortunately, when spongebob closed were like well, now gotta go find new musical to obsess over and we both decided I talked about wanting to see come from away for awhile. Okay. Well, let's go see it and We. You know I started listening to the soundtrack news right around the the two year anniversary of them being on Broadway we started getting really into it. And then they held the contest people to get tickets to go to their Broadway, anniversary, party, and get screeched in. So we actually got we actually went to that before we saw the show live. For the first time, and so you got the hang out with David Irene and We got screeched. Yeah we got to meet Jan and seizinger. And You know we got stretched in Romano was there and we kissed the fish was this really. Add Real Newfoundland screech for the first time and. As a room connoisseur, it is not no fence folks, Newfoundland. Not that good. I feel like that's the most charitable thing. You could possibly have said about screech it was not that's way nicer than it. He. Listeners here. Okay. What did he do for the screen? So you had the screech, any case, the fish they make you do a things as well. Yes. Trina let us in the Newfoundland folk song. It was pretty funny. She was making fun of. Botching the lyrics, we all got to talk to other from away fans and they gave us these Bingo cards and you would go around and like there would be one. You'd basically talk to people and get their experiences like so you'd find someone who's been screeched in already someone who's seen the show. Has Tried Touton always things listed, and then you get them to initiate and I found a couple of people that way and then what else did they have to have? You could get your up picture taking like the head, the hats and the and a couple of other little props that you could take your picture with in their commander Gander show up Yup Commander Gander was there. It's how. The real MVP of come from away can gather. The real star, the show. Is such an awesome night. Amazing and the way that this is probably one of the only Broadway shows that would probably ever do something like this. Yes As as much as some of the other musicals that are on robbery right now they're amazing. People are so talented. I just don't see them ever organizing fan get together at that level. I just so lovely everyone involved in the show I reach out to the fines. So really interested in like what we think I love love love the Bingo card idea because I think that's the whole thing of comfort wise like human connection, a meeting different people I think that's one of the things I love about eggs I love me different people here in everyone else's stories. Yeah. In one thing I played not only like that sense of community ends up passed on to us. Like US becoming friends and all the people we've met on twitter. They do a wonderful job of making sure that US the fans absorb those important messages and then when we're in the band community like I know you feel this as well as I do you feel almost protective over that message and making sure that it gets furthered like you feel that sense of obligation of okay. These people have come here and poured their heart out and given us this wonderful tale of open inspiration, and now it's our turn to go and make sure other people. Have that experience. Yes definitely things like with nine eleven and vice of initiatives and just. You just want to go out and help everyone and be kind. Yeah It just it. It sears especially. I mean, I, know like story. It takes you know about what happens after nine eleven of course, it was such a horrible dark time for all of us. They think now especially given like the way the world is with you know with our current political situation here on the stage and you guys and in Britain with with your government and problems all across Europe and. Now the pandemic it's. Just. The message of hope, kindness takes on a whole `nother level of importance right now and actually thinking about that as well. Di Nephew saying the North American tool cost have distorted a youtube channel and it's GonNa. Be About a conversation geno about black lives matter all on odd district us so. That like. That taking the time to carve. Everyone's love people taking the time to learn and grow but the fact that they're doing it on Youtube in Sharon it with everyone again people involved i. think he's just so amazing because of seeing the people of Color in the cost kind of shadow views and explain things. Everyone else can listen a nun from them on a the doing together and inviting us to join them is just incredible and discharge like what an amazing 'cause. They own like one in Oldham for Wyckoff this stories about every single calls just do such. Amazing things. Really hopped on to that it really all picked up on that notion of kindness. And it's it's like the show is not just another musical with great music. It's it's taken on such a bigger. More important meaning you know and. That's awesome about the Taurean cast. That's really great. I follow a lot of the broadcast on Instagram Anal, a Josh especially joshing Anita. Your I in the evening Astros and then to Meka. Lawrence is part of the original cast on very active on on instagram and talking about. Social Justice issue. So it's really it's really just great to see how everybody was. Everybody's taken on this cost to spread awareness edgy spread education do something about. The Black lives matter racial inequality and You know things that are happening today that we need to pay attention to. Another passenger fellow is Clinton Butler from the Toronto cost and paint by Squire of things on his instagram as well about differing current events. Black lives matter on it. Yeah. I love the stuffy prices I'm pretty interesting from following him also say what was it like a fast time he so compromise especially off to get into, get screech before you even so the Shire, it was wonderful we went from my birthday. And it was just really wonderful finally getting to see and We Don't have words for how. Incredible and moving it was and I got a literal chills when that the Boron started playing and they all walked onstage enemy and I still get those chills but especially the first. an prayer every time it especially the first time I cried like a baby because a lot of my family is Jewish and my. Grandfather and grandmother both came over from Russia a few years before World War. Two started and so there's that residents resonance for me with The story of the Rabbi and And then afterwards when we went to the stage door of asteroid actually came out and gave us chocolate from Newfoundland and I am I've never had that but before never had it happened since probably never will happen again it. Is the only show. In the whole world that would happen at. Service prayer like your favorites from the strategy side it's it's my favorite of bikes like when I go listen to the cast album of like my favorite is probably either welcome to the rock or screech in But to see live because prayer, there's When you're when you're watching it, there's all those extra subtleties that don't quite make onto the cast album and there's something about of. Win You're watching them all all pray together that again like the the cast is wonderful but you know it can't pick up everything and that's one thing it's watching it and hearing it and all of it together and just thinking about you know the state of the world right now and how that's that's not helping art health should be come from away is very much a story of like where where we should be but aren and where you know these stories of. Kindness and love and care for strangers, and that's not something that could happen in I think in our world right now where everything is has become very toxic a lot of ways and that's why this show so important with reminding us that these things should be happening. Yeah Can Be missing not even low enough. I literally. Listen to the cast album twice a day most days said, you have like a favorite carried through the show favorite night track all cash it's hard to pick. It's like trying to pick your favorite child of. Mall I. got a loved them all but I think the Captain Bass. and. Bonnie are my favorites just because I could see I could see a lot of myself in the two of those characters. On. Just. Captain Bash who we got to meet the real bats. which was the most which is so cool. I'm still in all that we got to meet her. Admits of Mason and enough on your favorite cartoons as well is command the Gonda, right? Oh. Yeah. I I always cheer every time of. And Story, yes with a community gender So they don Baker wrote the little picture vote the commander goes to come from away and I I got a copy of the book from her because I treated her to the commander Gander hinge with made look on, and then when I got the book signed by the cast, I mentioned how much love Commander Gander and want to get my own plus your, but I can't find it anywhere. and we were talking to share in Wheatley about that and she's like, Oh, I haven't idea message on twitter later. And then fast forward a couple of months and we are seeing the Shell and bay the merchandise stand has commander Bushes and so i. I buy one later that night where at stage door of an Assist I, hold that the they communicator. Bush. I'm like was this because of you because I feel like you know if feel like it is. And she was filing. She's like well after that night I went home and I email demon and I read so. Yes and it's like. Sharon. Wheatley. Actually is the reason why we have committed. This is amazing. All we are twitter buddies with Lisa Fudge who it. Is She sent me when we first started talking to Lisa. told her about the pins that we made. She sent me some pictures of her when she was just as commander Gander for all all the plane people. So we got some some old school photos the. Party that happened on when people were there again there there's Lisa Commander Gander gear you know. With the kids? It's pretty awesome. So let's talk about from away. That was so much fun. That was great. Getting to hang out with you and then hanging out with the cash and hearing the stories hearing the cut songs. So awesome. So great for those people. Dr. Set. So in back in February, just before the pandemic, I'm good. Well, I think that was still rumblings about it wasn't that before. With. Yellow. Like Sir I was really lucky to go back before really kicks off. Thanking A. Cabaret show at fifty four below with. Their writers, David Narine, and some debris, my calls, and it was basically the cop songs from the show, and because that's so much material that could use it who for various reasons but I had ob soames it wanted to show us today Paul, Carey Gig, and so I got my tickets I think olds a lot lost Jeremy Neo tables event. And it was absolutely amazing and. It was like Josh. Josh Tony Tony Joel Hobby. was doing there. Wasn't dare Sharon was there. On. TRINA ASTROID? User. Juliane Leo. Danbury. Joe David Yes so It was absolutely amazing. It was so lovely to see I. Let you saying that all the different songs and and it's very interesting. It felt like a behind the scenes that we know you've got the book. It was I even more behind the scenes in the book because Oh it's really cool. Yeah. Just, just like what was your favorite song from there? I'll make Laura so. I love. Washington because it's so powerful message. Of. Is Amazing. There's so many good songs. The one that sticks in my head is, let's go out. Oh. Yes. Yes which is hilarious. 'cause we not literally or go back with a night three weeks were knocked down on the stay-at-homes. Stay Save. I. Like the whole time. Let's go. Let's go. Washington I loved I feel like of all the songs one that probably. Would have been the easiest to fit back in on either that or the bring me home which I felt like would have been great as a bridge between something's missing finale and then to those in for standouts I love the. Will look at each other Yuck. Me Go to Walmart Hates Walmart. Is the lyrics about. Become as well. They are they are number would I got the book I was reading the story about that Who is this verbal? Guy No clue and then once we went to cover way. The Oh. Walked out more. It's just. The. Court though was in the let's go out song where Sharon's not Sharon astronauts is the bar owner is playing the mom, the Moammar owner and she. And she's talking about her daughter that she had to kick out of the bar and. was played by Irene Irene goes I'm almost eighteen in. Astra yells your fifteen and I swear I had flashbacks to when I was a teenager. quit why mom? Astros. Did that a little too well only. Show sorry, Mum I'm so. To, be on his name now swear but my favorite bit was like when he does and he was all. A good idea to sing all the bait with one. For All. fucking soon. And then Joel, as the throat singer just all by God what he? Has No. Air On his head pretended to. Flip his. Hair back. Hurts throat singing Just. To me. I'm really hoping they do a pay some subconscious CD with a zone. Like some of them around like a promotion, Sadie that they have like back in the day or all of them all. The yeah. A KNIFE RELEASE I finished a couple of half a day. They halley. An Bob Song Yeah. that. Just hits me. frigging hard I think the reason why is to say? Just. Being a New Yorker and just because you know New Yorker nine eleven and. Everything and just. It just it hits me at a different level than some of the other stuff. 'cause it feels personal even though it's not necessarily directly related to me but. You know it's it's my home holiday. Bob's dowd is you know anybody that I could that people I grew up with deal you now so But it's. Such a great voice it just to hear him sing that too was just was just lovely. Yeah. I loved that David Irene with Arizona 'cause it was amazing off the show. So many times various different costs to achieve. That writer like singing the songs off allows the remains. arena such wonderful. Just kind sweet folks they really are. We all went to talk to them together and we're telling them how we became friends because of this show. That was so wonderful to an it still makes me off. So I had at the time because it was just off all costs change in London. It was like a week after the new call started and I had a picture of like one of our news standbys with me in the Middle Annette pitch of Mafa mark. He's I face kept of the new cost. My vote. Knox. Had to give it back to one of you. Remember this. And David like clocks picture the to costume iphone. got. emceeing your dedication. I mean I have really. Forgot to tell the truth to be junk lull is the Walter on my phone. So you know it all works out so Is She your favorite Kamba I I loved them. All Jen. Jen holds a special place in. Mahar 'cause I don't know I just I adore John On. So many. She's just awesome. But I also I also. I know it's hard to pick a favorite. You know we're. Pretty Great and I have you know Jen's writing jets on my own SC. But no I. F Jen. I. Appreciate Everything Judge Done On. vk. Come from a way through just Jentzsch journey to to become a broadway. Star. Who she is, you know an unknown. And The thing that I respect a lot out of January is that she's open about being a queer woman in theater and she's she doesn't hide it and she's out and she loud about it. I just gotTa respect that. Is, not, enough a cost that you really WanNa see I wanna see all of them. Yeah. Okay. TORONTO. Cast yes. Oh my goodness. DOCO. I. Was Really I really liked grit when I'm greg and TORONTO. Claude. When? They hosted the fundraiser through the cancer society. I really liked Toronto Claude loved his personality. He just such a great guy. He had a amazing voice to which I want to check that out so I mean Toronto from where we live. It's only just a few hours driving. So it's a be all cross-border anytime soon when Broadway shows come back everywhere you know maybe you'd be. HAVE TO DRIVE UP TO TORONTO CHECK IT OUT. So when are we all going to? Gander Gary. All good again for. The. Twentieth Anniversary Nine Eleven. Let's do it. 'cause you tease who trip. Yes. Yes. So I'm hyping on gallon that like so yeah COM coups. Cool. If we could go I know he I don't I haven't seen I, don't think he released any details terms of cost or anything like that but not athlete It's definitely at the top of where I want to travel list I want to go so bad a sounds amazing. His trip is. So hagia zoom out to and always facebook page somewhere on find the link. But. So the absurd the gets released tomorrow which I haven't finished yet but anyway. He was saying about to end. He signed like it was going to do mini Boza liquor on the plane on awesome. Yeah and give everyone clutch to where. Everyone's GonNa get screeched in and meet with the different people vote in the show knock he'll cool. Yeah sounds amazing. Yeah. Really have already got my. Buffalo Plaid Flannel shirt ready to go no. I'm ready. My. Well, thank you very much. It's been so good to consider that. All I know. It was awesome talking to you Laura thank you for having on enough laying no worries and we need to try it again. Just three friends hanging out. Yes. You know one hundred percent. Yeah. We have to do this again. Goods. Yes. Thank you very much for coming on his appreciate. US. Thank you. state. Oil. I enjoyed the show as always. Let me your feedback on twitter instagram at CFI underscore musical or you can email me model applying at g mail, DOT, com Taika, and I'll see you next week.
Taurus 8, 5813 FY: Magic Mirrors
"Hello and welcome back to archives of fabella daily. The only podcast saying mirror mirror on the wall today is april twenty-seventh equal to tariffs eighth. Books are available on amazon. Please rate and review the podcast on itunes. Or wherever you listen to your podcasts and hit that subscribe button for more great stories. Right in your feet. April twenty-seventh eighteen thirteen is famous for during the war of eighteen. Twelve american troops capture york the capital of upper canada in the battle of york beyond our world. Intra bella magic mirrors were. I used to bridge the communication gap. I'm dillon foley. And this is archives of bella beyond our world there is love beyond our world there is beyond our world there is life beyond our world. there is football. Taro's eighth fifty eight thirteen fbi belly year equal to april twenty seventh eighteen. Thirteen ad earthier. On taro. eight fifty eight thirteen thirty two year old and tick Homeless it lag managed to create the first wall mounted magic mirror hailing from avalon. Et lag worked in camelot. As a servant to elven master valladares for canter kanter was a field inventor having developed a number of inventions. That never got off the ground. Like a device that crashed your head for you in the fifty-seven forties gantner and his family moved to camelot with. I'm hollis at lag tagging along as the family housekeeper while in camelot et lack became very interested in the possibility of achieving a long distance communication for the next several years it lag painstakingly labored over how to use magic to connect to mirrors to each other by day. She worked as a housekeeper by night. It lack poured over schematics to tirelessly create the first magic mirror. The ferry post exists by this time. S sprite were employed to deliver letters to people the drawback of the very post. However is that it still requires hand delivery messages and only one message could be delivered at a time. It lack wanted to improve on this by creating our harmonic messaging system a way of conversing with another person through a magic mirror. On the morning of taro's eight fifty eight thirteen et lag completes her prototype alone mounted magic mirror through which all she has to do is run a finger along the frame eight times and announce who she wishes to speak with the first of these magic mirrors allows a person to converse through their own reflection they could hear the recipient on the call but the image on the mir was always the owners reflection but before at lag can debut her invention. It is stolen. By her master baladora gander gantner discovered what epilogue was up two ago while snooping around her private quarters allowed her to work until he was sure that she had a working prototype and stole everything. Ed lag returned to her quarters to find her room empty. When ed lag confronts cantor he says that because he is her employer. He owns all of her work because she is a slave. It leg cannot take her to court or complain that he stolen her invention when mirror. Messaging debuts valid organic is credited as the inventor it lag as held as a prisoner in cantor's mentioned until her death in fifty eight fifty two but it's lags claim to mirror messaging doesn't die with her m homeless et lags family and co inventors with whom she developed mir messaging continue to have cantor's name stricken from historic record. And it leg recognized as the true inventor gained her committed suicide by leaping off a bridge in fifty eight sixty two by the time he died. He had scored away his fortune. Some believe he did not commit suicide but was in fact murdered by loon sharks as the years pass at hollis at lags name joins a long list of haflinger. Inventors is contributions to society went. Unrecognized the society of half defense plead the case on her behalf before the fabella world court in nine ninety six. Thanks to the world court's ruling in her favour. M homeless at lag finally gets the recognition she deserves and valladares kanter disappears from history as an infamous cheat and liar. That's going to do it for us today. Tune in tomorrow for the search of still in dragon. Subscribe now to get more new episodes right in your feed rate and review the podcast on itunes. Or wherever you listen to your podcasts. Send your questions. Do archives of abella at g mail dot com archives of abella is created produced and hosted by ellen foley with music by audio blocks books are available on amazon in e book and paperback as always look outside of what is possible and think about what might be.
French Trump Weekly Press Conference June 19, 2020
"And now we take you live to French trump's weekly press conference. It is French president trump and I'm here for the French President Trump press comfort wrongs I'm ready for your questions ahead. Go ahead, asked. The president. President Gary Gander New York a new book about your wife Sir Malania reveals that she didn't move to Washington when you became president, not because she didn't want to interrupt barons school year. But because she was trying to force you to renegotiate her prenuptial agreement after learning about your various affairs, and hearing the tape of you saying that because you are a star, you can grab women by the Pussy and they let you. Would you like to comment on that Sir new? That isn't true when they'll stick off this after my inauguration, Sean, which was Baz whizzy largest in Nado of crowd into. The presidency, maybe in the history of his presidency ended wild Melania, said to me. Out Can come live with you into White House and busy first lady and you know she pouted. Me Wild so you? Started to get a little aroused, and I said to her you. You can ask Mike Pence by way he'll back up anything. I say I said I want considerate. Milania if you would hugged my hand when we walk him puplic and she said. You know I had to hold your hand. This attorney craftsman out so asset because I am a great deal. I said, will you spank me each day with my daily briefing? And she said okay so long as I don't have to touch you, so we worked it out. Way worked next question next question. Mr President. President. Renter you you. Thank. You Mr President. It's Tony Romo from ABC News. I'm. Good to see you again, thank you so much. Thank you Mr President when asked you originally denied that you had gone to the bunker. Then you said You'd only gone to inspect the bunker and then bill bar said you had gone for your safety Mr President now. It's been said that you want to find and prosecute. Whoever said that you'd gone to the bunker during the protests in Washington DC. What law would you prosecute such a truth teller? Under the says no one can says that I went to see Poker Two Corinthians Is. If there is not such a lousy shooting won't be because I'm going to hide in punk are minimal times on January twentieth obvi- so hidden into bunkers, there will not be able to Fran Oise of disguise myself as a couch cou- Sean, and secret service GAZILLION will sync up. But I'll be like the guy is a parasite movie. Ivanka will get a job. A maidens in White House and she will touch me down burgers every so often question next question Mr President. Bush, president. You Mr President Stephanie Chan here yes. Yes, go ahead in your remarks that you're signing of the executive order on police reform. You again repeated that covid nineteen will just go away sir. It has already killed over one hundred seventeen thousand Americans wear. How is that just going away? You'll have to break a few eggs to make an Omelet. said it will go away. I didn't said Matt Not Take Half of us. We sit, but it will go away. My advas- is not to get too attached to one another they're you know when someone has. Everyone cries shit. Oh. She was so great. Well, no one is perfect. One not remember so moves their annoying traits like she used to big sets sucking noise. I always hated that sucking noise Shimade, or she was such a Nag and she wasn't smelling good towards the end next question natwest John. Mr President, MR president. President. Thank. You emmett Manning New York Newsday. In your comments and. Mortar president in your comments at you're signing of executive order on police reform. You said that people wanted law and order. You said they might not say it. Some of them might not even know they wanted, but they do. That people have been protesting in every state, and even around the world demanding that we reimagined policing and bring safety to the public. I don't think I've even seen one sign calling for law and order. What did you mean by that? I can tell what people are thinking. It's a gift. Right now you are sinking. I'm so lucky to be talking to French president. Trump right. Did you see Z fuck, trump percents Do you know what that means? Does I sought. How can I set the? On this quest John was done Mr. President Mr President. President. Mr. Thank you. Mr President yes me. It's Gary Gander again. New York. Get. Done I need another I hold on. Hold on I. Need another SIP of what? Can someone else helped me holds this. I've one hand to end Butler consumer tip. Take very much a distinct a new to. A nudist sip of what their sake you. Yes resident. Go ahead. Galley one more time sir. You also said in the Rose Garden at the executive order on police reform that President Obama had never made any police reforms because he had no idea what to do, and you repeated this during your interview with Sean Hannity in fact. You yourself reversed and Obama, policy that tried to demilitarize the police by banning the military from selling them surplus equipment. Also, your administration rolled back the Obama Administration's policy of investigating police departments and making the reports public. Put in place after Michael. Brown was killed by police in Ferguson Missouri so, Sir, you not only knew that President Obama had made these reforms, but you also did them. To you know President Obama an apology duo Michael Brown an apology. Do you owe George Floyd apology? Dent apologize to anyone just like I will apologize you get. Have? A tank role didn't discuss you like a bug with a mask. Get the fuck out of here. Apologize don't be a cutie path. You will swim with the fishes. You dead fucking mask wearing guppy. Zika virus is gone. fucking off, next question next question. Mr President. President. You you. That Shit's at carry play, yes, what? The supreme. Court has said you haven't followed administrative procedure to end the deferred action for childhood arrivals. What is your reaction? What is deferred action for childhood arrivals anti into. That Ah tell you what I'm upset resisted Prim car because they say I can't end Daca. President. That is DACA. The deferred action for childhood arrivals. That is DACA A. DACA. Is Well I was at that sooners? Anyway this Cortez. Lack me. That's the problem is they? Don't like me if I can just can't root better Ginsburg to take a little bit of Russian mob money. We could save a lot of time. No one would even have to argue cases if Sonia to my are, she's from Finland. You know which is part of Russia if she would take A. Test of Russian mob money every case they were just a great with trump would say what trump said. He's right next question. Nice, West Western. President yes. Yes, yes. Yes you. Thank you Mr. President Tony Romo again with ABC. News. John Bolton's book claims that you encouraged G Jingping to build concentration camps for weaker Muslims. Why would you do such a thing? I of tiny mass camps are going to be close fuzzy summer. Because of the mask wearing virus feeling Democrats, who did not believe a class, so see we are very lucky. Let's go to camp and it is a chance for them to concentrate. I'll tell you I wish I. Could a I never get to concentrate. Everyone wants something from me. Lindsey Graham keeps putting his hand on my knee I say Linda you are not that big. A star Malania wants money for Barron. What she dumped me. The evangelical want me to rig ZIG judicial system MNUCHIN. Want me to sun every checks it goes out. Rich donors want tax breaks. Par people want to eat. Black people don't want to be shot by police. Besides, if I don't get election, help from China or some contrary I'm head of poking when I'm out of office, my kids to Ivanka's face will melt imprison. I'll do anything I have to stay in office. Why did you write a book? That it, no questions, no questions. This has been a live broadcast of French trump's weekly press conference. A podcast network.
How to deal with chatty co-workers
"Hey listeners how well do Americans and Canadians really get each other North Americana podcast digs for this connections and cracks open a few of the cliches we have about the two countries from look at indigenous culture around the Great Lakes to the real people who inspired a Tony nominated come from away set in Gander Newfoundland. I once interviewed a CEO who carved out time to do his focused work in a waffle house in the morning that way when he showed up at work he could be in responsive mode what's the best way to manage this situation one of the easiest ways to focus if you work in a flexible environment is to do your focused work away from the office consequently water cooler chats seem like an easy thing to cut it's not a direct deliverable but it's also shortsighted humans welcome to before breakfast a production of iheartradio good morning this is Laura and have those conversations in the hallway with people who wanted to chat with him if you have some ability to work from home do so one to two days per week and if beyond an individual contributor role other people have valuable information they can choose to share or not they're more likely to warn you off troublesome to enjoy being seen as the person who stays latest even if these people don't get going on much until noon you'd like to get home and get on with your life during this prime window or you socialize when you can but you notice that many of the most social sorts don't have any limits on their time or worse up it's about having other people want to do their best work for you which doesn't happen when they don't trust you and even if you never want to me in my years of writing about time management I've learned that some questions come up more often than others this is one of the most frequent so first let's be clear into the before breakfast podcast. Today's tip is about how to deal with colleagues like to socialize when you have other things you want or need to do you're socializing with colleagues not inherently waste of time unfortunately this idea is still out there I've met people who've described themselves as tap that by refusing all co-worker lunch and coffee invitations and keeping all conversations to the bare minimum he was able to avoid bringing work home good at time management because they hold themselves off shut the office door if they have one and get stuff done indeed one person told me as time manager you liked strict separation they don't WanNa leave work with anything hanging over them and some people have to leave at a certain time in order to save make daycare pickup the American podcast spotlights great American storytellers listen now on all major podcast platforms social creatures and people want to work with those they know and trust trust is built up through low stakes repeated interactions which is a fancy way of d this person suggested I share this strategy so others could benefit from his hard won knowledge on some level I get it some people really projects or share the name of someone in counting who can help with your problem if you've built up a rapport of course some people seem to have no boundaries and sometimes this question grabbing those how was your weekend conversations getting promoted into management and then succeeding in that role isn't just about being good at your job comes in a more sympathetic form you do your best work in the morning and would like to spend this time focused on individual work but a colleague wants to stop by to shoot the breeze and try some other signal that indicates you're not available putting on a big headset as if you're on the phone can work even if you're not on the phone it makes your focused work on those days you'll feel much more relaxed about social interactions with colleagues when you know you're ahead of the game if that's not gonna fly then sort of not now signal to make this matter less awkward Laura Stack one of my favorite productivity experts has proposed the idea of a thinking cap people pause if someone's just looking for an easy entry into a conversation they'll go elsewhere indeed if you're managing office he might propose that people come up with some some sort of humorous hat you could put on that indicates now is not a good time as long as it's not abused such a signal could generally be respected there are other approaches with anyone if you really can't talk now it helps to indicate a time when the person knows they can have your full attention so temple hey can't wait to hear more. I need to get to this right now can we get coffee at eleven might deflect the conversation to a more convenient moment if conversation Sion's tend to happen at the end of the day when you're trying to get out the door try walking around in proactively checking in with people earlier like after lunch you can also recognize that socializing sometimes doesn't mean you have to socialize all the time going to lunch with the group occasionally can allow you to catch up on what's going on while avoiding going some other days you also might be surprised at how quickly even seemingly chatty sorts can run out of steam you could try timing it at some point the difference getting done in five minutes if you're just deleting emails you might be better off sitting with the conversation even if it's not terribly convenient and letting the other person tween interrupting someone and creating an issue and letting the person talk until a reasonable closing point might be a few minutes I must be honest here how much are you feel heard I've realized this with one of my kids actually who likes to have talks with me late at night these requests for the talks tend to come right hey everybody I'd love to hear from you you can send me your tips as I picked up a book and after dealing with other people during the day part of me really wants to sit in silence but I've learned that almost always the talk is done in five minutes then my kid is back to his own book and I can go back to mine so I just have the chat and he feels much happier within reason at work no doubt with all the letters thanks so much I look forward to staying in touch before maybe you can do so too low cost big payoff in the meantime this is Laura thanks for listening and here's to making the most of our time nine eleven north Americana uncovers stories that connect North Americans it's a fascinating cross-border conversation sponsored by destination candidates breakfast is a production of iheartradio for more podcasts from iheartradio visit the iheartradio APP apple podcasts or wherever you listen to your favorite shows from Panera bread ask yourself when was the last time you had a meal that was fresh and filling Peres new warm grain bowls are full of flavorful angry questions or anything else just connect with me on twitter facebook and Instagram at before breakfast pot that's be the number four against hardy keen wa Spicy Salsa Verde and creamy avocado full of flavors textures and colors full of good so you'll be full of good too try a new Baja or Mediterranean warm grain boll worm grain bowls full of good now available for delivered an era food as it should be more than breakfast he od you can also shoot me an email before breakfast podcast at iheartmedia dot com that before breakfast now.
July 24th - National Amelia Earhart Day with Wade Roush
"Hey. This is bowl condo. This is the podcast Gumbo podcast and I've got a rhetorical question for you. Are you like me and find those things. We call national days like cheese ball day or worse moldy cheese day amusing. Yeah me too. So. Each week, one of my podcast friends challenged me to find an episode related to one of those days and I'll be releasing it on the actual date occurs. So let's get to it. What is today's National Day? Hey Paul it's weighed rouch. So July twenty fourth is National Amelia Earhart Day and I guess what I'm curious about is how Amelia herself would feel about the way she's remember today I mean it seems like she's famous mostly for disappearing into thin air and only secondarily for being the first woman to fly solo across the Atlantic which all seems Kinda backward to me. On the other hand, she's seen increasingly as a feminist icon which seems like might please her. So I'm just curious how historians and biographers think earhart would have regarded her own fame. Thanks. Wade given that I've never been confused for an historian. I'm one of those people that thinks about Erhard the way you've described above. So it's nice to be given a little nudge of history and hopefully I can return the favor. For my first recommendation, I, found a podcast called. Erhard which hopes to shed some more light on Earhart by interviewing guests. In this episode, they interview Abigail Harrison who is commonly known as astronaut. Abby. As part of the interview, Abby Talks about how a millionaire heart is an inspiration. They also talk about the marsh. And stem as well as our work as an aspiring actress not. Today's guest is weighed Roche host of the soonest podcast which helps us understand were technology come from and how we decide to start or stop using it. It's that understanding that allows us to be more intentional about the kind of future were building together. Soon Ish covers a lot of ground from bridges to virtual reality to the voting process. One episode that struck me though was way talking about quitting facebook, which is something I grapple with constantly On the episodes page description we'd outlines multiple years were facebook failed us and he finally had enough. Here in twenty twenty facebook continues to fail enlarge ways and I wish some of the tech support groups that I am a member of would find another service. So I could get off facebook myself. For last recommendation wait went above and beyond he's given three podcast recommendations and a youtube channel that are about the weird byways and. In no particular order they are. The. Constant. The right stuff the wrong way. Ninety nine percents, invisible gander international airport. Should this exist boom the return of supersonic flight. And Amy Sheera. Titles Youtube Channel VINCA space. A link to all of them will be in the show notes. For today's extra hot sauce. I just WanNa add that Wade is one of the creators of the Boston based podcast collective called hub-and-spoke. If you've been listening to this podcast since the beginning you'll know that Charles Gustin was my second guest ever who was the host of ICONOGRAPHY, which is part of hub and spoke. I'll put a link in the show notes to the collective, and you'll probably recognize some of the other great podcasts. As always take a look at the show notes for links to all the podcasts mentioned in this episode as well as other life altering information. To make it easy for you. There's also a link to a podcast playlist that will contain episodes ever mentioned in the show. See you next week some time for another round of recommendations. Are you still listening do you still want more podcast goodness if so get on over to podcast Gumbo, dot com, and subscribe to my newsletter today.
"I'm Dr Selene Gander that I'm Ron Clean. And this is epidemic. This show will bring you the latest news and analysis about what's happening with the corona virus epidemic and you'll get to hear from some of the world's leading infectious disease and public health. Experts will also help you understand the bigger context. We'll bring you diverse angles from history and anthropology to politics and economics depth and texture. You won't get elsewhere but first a little bit about US Selena and I met back in two thousand fourteen. I'm an infectious disease specialists and epidemiologist. I spent the earlier part of my career working on Turkey LOS IN HIV IN SUB Saharan Africa. I later served as assistant commissioner for Tuberculosis in New York City. I started covering the Abol epidemic in my writing and on TV. In June of two thousand. Fourteen before I went over to Guinea as an Ebola aid worker myself I've worked in government for most of my career in an October. Two thousand fourteen. President Obama asked him to serve as the White House. Bull Response Coordinator. It's a small world when it comes to people working on a bola so inevitably runnin. I crossed paths. It's been almost five years. Since the epidemic in West Africa ended. You would think that the world and the United States would have used that time to get ready for the next epidemic but as we learn each day sadly that is not true as we transition from regional epidemics to a full on pandemic. We're going to see krona virus spread here in the United States but there are things we can do to prepare to take care of ourselves our families and our communities we also need to see how our government is doing the job to fight the disease an protect us here in the United States are the right people making the right decisions using the right science so join US starting Friday February twenty eighth and start tweeting us your questions at Salin Ghandour or at Ronald Clean that's C. L. I N. E. G. O. U. N. D. E. R. or R. O. N. A. L. D. K. L. A. N. Every week we'll answer a few. I'm Dr Selene Ghandour. I'm Ron claim. This is epidemic.
The Vaccines Keep Proving Themselves. What Does It Mean For You?
"The public theater returns to audio drama with groundbreaking bilingual spanish and english production of romeo equal yeta directed by sahim aleve with loopy dongyang s. Who yet that. And plunged gus. Daniel rahmael listen wherever you got. Podcasts listener supported w nyc studios. I'm brian lehrer. This is my daily politics. Podcast from wnyc studios. It's wednesday march thirty first the good news and the bad news about cova. Just keep on coming and keep trying to help you make sense of it and how it affects your life choices and more some of the good news. This week is very very good. This morning's covert headline. Have you heard this yet. Is that pfizer vaccine. Trials on twelve to fifteen year olds are turning out one hundred percent safe and effective teenagers early at one hundred on anything and of course so do clinical trials one hundred percent safety and effectiveness for twelve to fifteen year old for adults. Now that the pfizer and moderna vaccines have been out in the real world for a few months and not just in. Clinical trials studies published this week. Show them being ninety percent effective at preventing getting the disease at all. The trials just focused on hospitalizations and deaths which they prevented totally the finding of ninety percent effectiveness. Also against even becoming an ace symptomatic. Harrier is really good news at the same time cases and hospitalizations or once again on the rise as more state and local governments. Open more things yesterday. We played that widely shared clip of cdc director. Dr shell will linski saying she has a feeling of impending doom. Here's twenty seconds more of her emotional appearance on monday. So i'm speaking today not necessarily as your cdc director and not only cdc director as a wife as a mother as a daughter to ask you to. Just please hold on a little while longer. I so badly want to be done. I know you all so badly want to be done. We are just almost there. But not quite yet dr orlinsky on monday and a survey of epidemiologists in twenty eight countries finds two-thirds believe the current vaccines will become ineffective within a year almost a third predicted ineffective in nine months or less and these are just the last two days worth of headlines. Scientists continue to keep track of the changes in the things they can measure or see with. There is a pace of scientific observation in response. Like maybe never before in medical history with me now dr selene gown under an infectious disease specialist and epidemiologists at nyu and their langone medical center. She was a member of the biden. Administration's covid nineteen transition team. She is the host and producer of in sickness and in health podcast on health and social justice and c. n. n. medical analyst and has written for general readership publications ranging from the new yorker to sports illustrated. Dr gander. great to have you join us this morning. Welcome to wnyc here. Can we start with the newest good news breaking this morning. One hundred percent safety and effectiveness and the pfizer vaccine trials on twelve to fifteen year olds. Do you know what they're measuring those athletes so they looked at infection. So were these Adolescents carriers not. Just did they have diseased end up in the hospital and so this is really important because as we know young people Children teenagers are less likely to have symptoms. So what was most important here was not just at prevent disease but also does it prevent that carrier state where they could be spreading to adults and what are the implications of that for society. More broadly. well we've been talking about this. Holy grail of herd immunity and based on the data that we've seen so far and with coveted as a moving target. We're learning something new every day. But our best estimates are that probably around eighty percent of the population needs to be vaccinated have robust immunity from vaccination to reach that herd immunity where the virus basically has no place to go because it keeps encountering people who are immune to reach that level of herd immunity. You really do need to vaccinate kids. Kids are about a quarter of the population here in the united states. And so if you are not able to vaccinate them if you're not able to induce a strong immune response in that population. It's very unlikely you would be able to get to hurt immunity. So essentially this is news that yes it is possible to get to herd immunity eventually dr gander now. Could you describe this other piece of good science news from this week. The pfizer and moderna vaccines are proving ninety percent effective against blocking corona virus infections. And they're real world uses not just clinical trials according to studies at first responders in six states who had been vaccinated. We already knew the vaccines were blocking. Virtually any hospitalizations or deaths. What's the significance of this new piece. So what we're seeing. Is that the pfizer. Vaccines are eighty percent effective against infection. fourteen days after the first stoves and ninety percent effective against infection. Fourteen days after the second dose so that the vast majority of people who are vaccinated with the pfizer vaccines are protected. Not just against severe disease hospitalization and death but also from infection that carrier state and as we've seen over the course of this pandemic a lot of the transmission is occurring by people who have no symptoms or minimal symptoms better carriers and so this is really very important data that we're seeing here would that have implications for what vaccinated people should feel comfortable doing once. They've had their shots plus two weeks. I think it should. And this is why you're gonna see as the data comes in the guidance evolve. I i would say i think about. The vaccine is a bit like a raincoat in an umbrella which are really highly effective. They'll keep you safe and dry and a thunderstorm but in a hurricane you really do need additional protections and so we are currently in a hurricane we have very high levels of coronavirus transmission in the community. We are at the beginnings of another surge right now and so. I do think you know even if you've been vaccinated and i've been vaccinated myself You do need to continue wearing a mask when you're out in public i am doing and you do need to avoid crowds if you're fully vaccinated. Can you socialize with other people who are not yes. As long as you are with people of one household at a time who have not yet been vaccinated. You can do so safely without a mask. Why 'cause people are confused about this. Why should people who are fully vaccinated still avoid crowds if they themselves are protected and these studies are showing that they're highly unlikely to be symptomatic carriers interests to others. Remember we're talking about percentages so eighty percent of what ninety percent of what and says what i'm talking about with the hurricane when you have that much transmission in the community. Yes you're seeing significant reduction in risk but when you have even still very high baseline risk. You're still facing some level of risk these. These vaccines are not one hundred percent effective and so until we can bring down that community transmission until more people are vaccinated. The risk is not zero and so we do need to keep being somewhat. Careful how much would you say that applies to outdoor events. Where people are wearing masks. I know there's debate about The reopening of yankee stadium opening day tomorrow city field next week. Approximately ten thousand people are going to be allowed in as fans they're going to be mass mandates except for when they're eating and outdoors seems to be You know such Just makes a big difference. Compared to being indoors. Baseball is only one example if they were to be an easter parade or you know a million other things. There is no question that being outdoors as much much safer. That is good ventilation as you're going to get the problem with some of those venues is that you're not spending the entire time in the bleachers. you're going to the bathroom you're going to the concession stands. You're waiting in line to get in or to leave Where some of those spaces are indoors. So that's where the risk comes in. Let's take a phone call. Paul in the west village who on. Wnyc hi paul. Hi brian Thank you for this useful and helpful and section of your show I wanna ask a question of your experts about The experiment is going on in britain. They are mixing and matching vaccines. Where if you take for example the astra zeneca vaccine in your first Dose and then your second does they're saying which the spacing out further in england in the uk. They're saying You can take whatever's available is it happens to be enough astra zeneca good if you suffice a one or a modern one. That's okay and they're allowing this sort of pick and mix between the vaccines in the hope that as sort of a it doesn't matter the belief that it doesn't matter and be actually help things it makes you improve it because instead of having what's called a homogeneous you know second prime boost its heterogenous which is the opposite of how on ten dollars today. So prime boost allows you to get a broad spectrum reaction against the virus against the spike protein or different. You know interpretations of the spike. Privacy i obviously that isn't happening here but maybe something with the variance coming. That may be something helpful to consider. Paul thank you for that. Great question and and Dr gander. A lot of people have that question now and of course it's a policy question to even more than it's a personal question you know. Is it not only okay to delay the second shot so more people could get protected by the first shot. Is it maybe even better. So there's two separate questions. There in terms of delaying the second doses. There is real potential risk. In that i think people think too much. In terms of binary immune or not immune we really should be thinking about immunity on a continuum of different levels of the neutralizing antibodies for example. And so we know that after your first post you do have some level of immunity that you're neutralizing antibody levels are much lower after that first dose and they do start to decrease in the the numbers by the time you hit four or five six weeks after that. I owe so if you're extending that delay. Between per second dose there is a risk that you're neutralizing antibody levels will be lower and that creates a window where you could be exposed to some of these variant strains and be more risk for infection with one of those so a lot of this is still very much up for debate you know how that would play out and so this is something that needs to be formally studied because you can't model predict the answer to all of these things with respect to the hetero heterogenous prime boost approach where you mix and match different vaccines for number one and number two. I think this is something. We've been We were discussing on advisory board for months and something that certainly needs to be studied in britain. It sounds like they may be moving forward with that. Even in the absence of formal studies in the us we do have two different platforms. Two different technologies that have been granted. Emergency use authorization. You have the a vaccine. So pfizer and madonna which were approved back in december and then more recently you had the authorization of the johnson and johnson which is an adenoviruses vector vaccine which is similar to some degree to the astrazeneca vaccine. I do think you're going to see the studied here in the. Us mixing and pfizer moderna and johnson and johnson. But i would say you know here. We are very science driven and in the recommendations were making and so until there is formal study. I don't think you're gonna see that outside of a clinical trial in the united states under. I do want to ask you to comment on this more troubling international survey. Now that we've been talking about a lot of good news of epidemiologists in twenty eight countries. I see you tweeted it out. That finds two thirds of these experts on the spread of disease at. That's what an epidemiologist is an expert on the spread of disease predict the current vaccines will become ineffective in a year and in addition a third of them predicted they will become ineffective within nine months. We're you surveyed for this and in any case would you count yourself with the majority there. I was not surveyed for that. But i would count myself among those even the third who say that within nine months we may need a second generation vaccines with that prediction in mind. What do you think. The implications are for personal behavior or for public policy with with the virus. You have to understand that every time. The virus spreads from one person to another it has the opportunity to mutate to evolve and so even if we achieve very high vaccination rates in the next few months here in the united states as long as the virus is spreading anywhere in the world That puts us all at risk for the emergence of mutant viruses Some of the places where these mutant viruses have emerged or the uk. Where the have this more transmissible. More virulent virus That has prompted the uk and the now europe to reinstitute Very strict lockdown measures france Seeing its ice use currently overrun. They are about to reinstitute. A strict lockdown and that same variant is now spreading in the united states. it is in part are surge. That is just beginning. Now you know and then you have other variants that have emerged. In countries like south africa and brazil where the virus has been allowed to spread like wildfire and those also threaten our vaccination response because the vaccines appear to be still effective but less effective against those variants and so we could find ourselves in a place where everybody most everybody in the us has been vaccinated and then you have a mutant variant that emerges in another part of the world that the vaccines are not effective against and then that comes back here to haunt us such a nightmare scenario. How will we know the early warning signs like do we need to wait for a few dreaded cases of vaccinated people dying or getting sick enough to be hospitalized and half a year or more from now or can we headed off at the pass in some way. Well i think the speaks to a couple of different things one We need to be doing much more in terms of what's called genomics surveillance where you're looking at the genetics of the virus and how it's mutating and changing over time. We have increased that over the last two months or so significantly. But we've gone from close to zero two bit more but that's still nowhere near enough and where we need to be. We're not doing testing on the order of countries like the uk or even south africa. And so that really needs to be ramped up Part of what we need to do on that front is really get the university academic labs involved more. We need to be building up more of this testing capacity in local and state health departments and will take some time. I think the other thing is we need to look at the root cause the the drivers of of mutation and that's when the virus spreads and so we really do need to be thinking about how to help other countries scale up their vaccination so that you're not having the emergence of these mutant barons. It's really not just for them. But it's also for our own protection. Kim in queens. Wnyc hi kim. Hi thanks for taking my call on. Thanks for doing this program sure I'm asking how we should think about in terms of to return to the gym not necessarily classes in rooms but sort of machine spread out after your vaccinated. I mean it seems from what you're saying that that this is definitely not the time until we have a much. Higher percentage vaccination but what are the conditions under which it would be reasonable to do that person. But he's the backstage. Yeah great question. I think unfortunately many states including our own have reopened indoor dining indoor bars. Indoor gyms Other indoor businesses far too soon. And i understand the trade off between the economics and the health public health concerns. This is also why the president has included a lot of different supports for small businesses. And the like in his various different plans because there is an understanding you. You don't wanna be forcing people to choose between their economic well-being being able to pay the rent And public health. That said it's gonna be a while yet before it would be safe to go back to jim's even for just individual workouts. We are at the beginning of another surge here in new york city right now. And when we see an increase in cases usually previously in the epidemic in the pandemic. That means that you're about to see a spike in cases I'm hoping that's curbed a little bit by the fact that some people are vaccinated. Now that it won't be as sharp of a rise but this really is not the time. I think we really have to wait until we're on the other side of this impending surge before you go. We had a segment yesterday on the vaccine. Negative cova test passports now being introduced by the state of new york and others intended to allow safe reopenings right of denser entertainment events and restaurants and other things. Do you have any take on those passports in terms of effectiveness or equity or anything else. I think equity and privacy or are the two main concerns here. I know that the white house is speaking to Working with a number of different companies. I think some twenty different companies are working on these different passport technologies where you have both smartphone app and a paper version and trying to make sure that all of those systems do maintain privacy of information. The other concern is around equity and is it fair to be limiting access to certain places if not everybody wants to get vaccinated can get vaccinated so i do think we have to be very careful about instituting vaccine until everybody has equitable access to vaccines and for that matter to testing as well and one question. I had the yesterday's guest at the right kinds of experts to ask the use of rapid tests right at the door as a screen to get into the theater or concerts or sporting events. Whatever i read. The rapid tests are significantly less accurate than the nasal swab. Pcr tests which don't give instant result so you can't use them that way so i don't know how confident people should be going into a venue. Where rapid tests are supposedly protecting them from the virus. Do you ever take on rapid tests as entertainment passports. Yeah i do think you're going to see more of the use of of rapid tests in the coming months where we see with those rapid tests is that you're really up the most infectious people so you are gonna miss some people who might have low levels of virus with those rapid test but the most infectious people you will pick up. So it's still a useful screening tool In that respect. I would still at buys at least until more people are vaccinated. Also combining those kinds of measures with masking and decent ventilation indoors. Last one from a listener on twitter can therapist in the patients meet safely in person if both vaccinated but also have children. I think if both people are vaccinated. Yes i i think that would be perfectly reasonable for a therapist and patient to meet in person and even if they have children unvaccinated which i guess was the particular question. Yeah yeah. I think. I think even if they have children. Now let's say there were somebody high risk in the household some elderly person with chronic medical conditions that might be slightly different calculation. But if it's a therapist who has children or the patient has children they have both been vaccinated. The adults and i think it's reasonable for them to meet in person as we go out. Let me give you a chance to plug your podcasts. And any other media work. I'll say i dr salim boundaries infectious disease specialists and epidemiologist at nyu and their langone medical center. She was a member of the by administration's cove in nineteen transition team task force. And you've got a couple of podcast going right. i do. So the epidemic podcast. I launched in february last year. Originally with ron clain. Who's biden's chief of staff now and so that's a weekly podcast season. One is on the kobe pandemic and the other podcast which has been going for several years. Now is called american diagnosis. And you can find epidemic and american diagnosis really wherever you listen to podcasts apple. Spotify all the usual suspects for being so clear and detailed and your answers to my in our listeners questions and for your generosity with your time today thanks a lot my pleasure. Brian lehrer daily politics. Podcast is an excerpt from my live. Daily radio show the brian lehrer show on. Wnyc radio ten am to noon eastern time. If you wanna listen live at wnyc dot org today. Talk to you next time.
Coronavirus: Got Pandemic Questions? Weve Got Answers
"You can listen to add free new episodes of science rules only on stitcher premium for a free month of stitcher premium go to Stitcher, premium, dot, com, and use Promo Code. Science you podcasts right whether you listen occasionally or can't get through your day without them. There's a great app you need to try. It's called stitcher. stitcher is a free APP for iphone and Android. That's really easy to use from classic favorites, too. New hit shows from and CONAN. O'Brien, as well as the best of true crime like cereal and my favorite murder stitcher is home to all your favorite podcasts visit stitcher dot com to download stitcher for free today. Witnessed Docs from stitcher. This is an historic time. Going to be a multi year fight. Why is it taking so long to get a screening test? It is not a hoax. It Israel something that we never experienced before wash hands wash hands, wash and I mean you're. The scientists are going to have to tell me. Greetings greetings I'm your host Bill Nye, and this is the series that brings you the latest analysis and the science of this pandemic to keep you informed prepared and calm. We are still all in this together. My friends. Almost three million people have been infected with the COVID nineteen virus, in the US, and that number is rising faster than ever before. We have not yet seen a corresponding spike in the death rate, but even so the virus has taken nearly one hundred and thirty thousand lives in this country alone and I've been getting your voicemails and your emails about your experiences during the pandemic along with a lot of frankly excellent questions, so please keep those coming today. Our friend Dr, Selene Gown, or is back to help answer a few of those questions season. Assistant Professor of Medicine Infectious Diseases at New York University, an epidemiologist and the host of two PODCASTS, epidemic and American diagnosis. Dr Gander Selene. Welcome back to science rules coronavirus edition scraping me back. A lot is happened. Since we last spoke in April a lot of people have died and a lot more people almost certainly going to die, but the strange and interesting thing is the number Info of infections has gone way up at the number of deaths hasn't gone way up. And do you know why that is? Well you may have heard this term lagging indicator I mean. Certainly it's something that we see in the hospital from the time. Somebody is infected till the time they come in actually see us in the hospital because they're sick and then the time from there until they actually get really sick and die. You know there's a couple weeks at least in their maybe probably three four weeks. That is so creepy. I think you know Nick Cordero in his wife is a well known Broadway actor that died at the age of forty one. Man Man so you? You wear scrubs every day. You put on personal protection equipment every day right well when I go into the hospital. Yes, I. Do wear scrubs every day. And in the hospital, absolutely personal protective equipment I'm basically wearing an N. ninety five mask from the time I come into the hospital until the time I leave, and you know that gets to be pretty tiresome after a while of doing that every day. You breathing is literally difficult. Yeah, it really is and not to mention I. Mean I think there are other aspects of wearing a mask? People don't even think about there's these little staples on the side of the mass that attached the rubber bands that go around your head, and those over the course of you know an eight twelve, plus our those really start to dig in your face, and then you come home, and you have these like staple marks on your face from from wearing that all day well. Have you seen people start to wear masks more. I see a lot of people wearing masks on their chins. You would think there was a double Chin epidemic. Yes? I just I think they want to be able to say if somebody pulls them aside. Who's enforcing these things? No see I have my mascot. I pulled down to take a sip of water, whatever it was and so I think the WanNa make a show of compliance without actually complying and I think that's really unfortunate. Because the mass really do work, they worked to protect yourself and protect others and it's. It's by far the most effective intervention. We have better than any drug. Any anything else we can do right now is the mask. There's a Lotta talk about being inside versus outside. Outside seems to have much lower transmission rate. Is that a true factor? Would I like to whimsically call a false fact? No I mean I think there's probably on the order of a twenty fold. Decrease in risk of transmission. If you're outside versus inside, and I think you know it wasn't a designed to study, but the protests that were that we were seeing in the streets. you know last month in a way where a natural experiment in what happens when you have lots of people outside now granted, they were also most of them, wearing masks of how does wearing a mask and being outside? Outside reduce your risk of transmission, and it seems that that combination actually worked pretty well, because we haven't seen big spikes in cases, and it's been far enough out now that we should have been able to see that we haven't seen big spikes in the cities where they had those protests so that that's reassuring, it really is and when you say spikes in your spikes, in cases, not spikes and deaths. Spikes in cases. But places like New York City where we had protests, and where we have very aggressive testing, so we would expect to see it here because we are testing so much. We haven't seen that happen and I would expect to see it in the hospital and most of the patients we have with covert in the hospital. Now are people who've actually been there a while. They've been there since March or April or May. You know so. These are the long haulers, not not people who are recently infected. Listeners soonest questions, crates and I'd like to start with a an email from our good friend jared in the twin cities, he says hi bill of the show. We've been painstakingly wiping down or grocery deliveries during the pandemic. Are we wasting our time, or is it a good idea to sanitize your stuff the stuff coming in from from the outside world? Before you start using it so on that one, we probably can back off a bit I think I think the big what I would recommend when you come home from your grocery shopping so serving a big debate and ongoing debate in their house. I would put away your groceries. Wash your hands well. I wash the surfaces where you're unpacked your groceries, your kitchen countertops, or whatever and then wash your hands and I think that's probably plenty, and it's not just protecting you against corona virus. You know you might have Salmonella E-coli on your poultry, your meat, or whatever it is that you purchased at the store, so I think those are probably good things to be doing even normally know what makes you say that? Is that based on your experience or based on papers? You've read well. That's based on what we've seen in terms of surfaces that seem to be less. Of A. Factor in terms of transmission of the virus it seems to really be much more either respiratory or skin to skin kind of contact, not necessarily contact with surfaces. At least that's what the data with. There you go, so here's an email from Julia. Speaking of which. She's a rising junior at rutgers played a lot ultimate against rutgers when I was in school and she studying food science. Are there any data on the locations of where the most transmissions of coronavirus is not just the surface, his but places like the supermarket hospitals, non medical facilities are people catching it by not socially distancing enough while some of the places that. That have been quote unquote. Super spreader events have been things like weddings and birthday parties, and all kinds of other family gatherings and parties restaurants and bars have also been linked to many clusters of cases, so if you think about it, these are places where people are around people. They know they figure. Oh, I can trust so and so you know. They don't have the same level of concern about being infected by people. They know them people that were strangers. Honestly you know, and and I think also with restaurants and bars. You're indoor's people are speaking loudly. They're drinking again. Their inhibitions or a little bit suppressed, and you know you're more likely to do riskier things so along this line. We have an email from autumn autumn. J., Smith, what are the biggest risk factors? Factors when you're going to the beach, that's a pretty good question. If you're able to successfully social distance, and there's ultra-violet radiation, and there's a breeze and their salt water I think the beaches like any place outside outdoors, so your risk is definitely decreased by being outdoors, but it also depends on how close you are to other people and we've seen photos. We've well. We've been to the beach. You know in the past where? Beaches can be very crowded places, so are you able to socially distance from people outside of your household bubble and maintain six feet apart from those other people you know. I think that's the biggest question there. You know, and ideally, if you're not maintaining those distances, are you wearing a mask now? I will confess. That might make for some pretty funny Suntan by the time you go home from the beach. We also emails. We get voicemails and Dr gowned when you're here. I just think it's great you as an expert to answer people's questions. Can we roll that voicemail? From Gwen, high finance rules My name is Gwen and I'm calling from San Diego. I said Question Writing Corona and house going to affect. Our Future. Immunity especially since we're taking all these precautions to do so. Clean and take care of ourselves and make sure that we're not in contracting and. Everything like that How is this going to affect our future immunity? That mean every time we get sick will be super, sick or well this hopefully some day. Eradicate viruses from affecting US anyways. Thank you guys so much love what you do. Oh Gwen. That's so nice, so. Dr Gander SELENE ARE WE GONNA lose our immunity because we've kept isolated. Well, thank goodness. No, you know. Our immune system is something that develops even in the womb starts and continues to develop over the course of a lifetime, and it's not like you lose all of that. In fact, there's parts of your immune system. Things like we call memory t cells. There's parts of your immune system have memories of other prior infections, and that's a big part of how vaccines work actually is is to teach the immune system to have that memory. So. No is the answer. Here's a voicemail about. About how we feel! Hey Bill. This is toe from picking South Carolina. I guess my question is mental health. What is going to be the long term effects from long term Appalachian? me myself. You know. I live out in the middle of the woods. By myself me and the dog Actually this. Getting harder, you know being away from people. You know you're more so given. The Remote Awards that I live in. So I just WANNA. Get your fault that thanks. So selene. You're in the hospital all the time and you are. In many ways isolated from people because you got to wear a mask and scrubs all day. and. This guy is isolated. Physically or geographically, do you have any thoughts on that clinical signs of isolation I think it's not just a question of isolation like being physically distant from other people because there are other ways. To have relationships with people and me I'm around people all the time. It's just that we're not communicating normal ways, so I think it's. It's not just straight up. Are you not around other people it's what's the quality of the interactions you have and you feel like your honestly part of something bigger than yourself and so there's a lot of different ways to accomplish that and we joke about the Soom happy hours that we're having with with friends and I do think that's an important part of the actually is no joke. They're important for mental health to keep up host those relationships for sure. But I think also some of it is like you know. I would say. How can you feel like you're taking? You have some agency in the situation and that you're doing something. 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Are you still potentially dangerous? Does it then relieve you of taking precautions. That's a great question, and we think if you are immune, you probably would not be infectious to others. I mean the way this this actually plays out. Is You get? Re exposed to the virus, and because your immune system attacks it so quickly because now you're immune. Cut Short the viral replication, and and so you never really get sick. And we presume that because that is so short-lived. You're probably not having enough virus. Replicate in you that you could pass it on to somebody else to shed, so she goes on with the good. Follow up. She wants to be able to see her elderly parents again, and she says I'm wondering if Exposing Myself Dacoven nineteen and quote just getting it over with would make that possible. Maria! Ms Ford. No. Yeah. There's a lot of reasons that's a bad idea and I know a lot of people have sort of contemplated doing that. For numerous different reasons, the problem is number one. We don't know that you're definitely immune. After you have had a covert infection. We don't know how long that immunity lasts, and you could get very sick and actually potentially get other sick. Sick in the process of something like that kind of exposure so i. just don't think it's something that we can recommend that way right now, so we have an email from Tom Walker. Who says he's an industrial designer in Cincinnati Ohio? Where I've spent some high-quality time? He says I work closely with engineers and love science and are constantly learning new things. And my wife and I, take covid nineteen very seriously, and still have not gone to stores or gatherings, however most of the people in my life, he writes. Taking the virus seriously mainly co workers and relatives I. See them without masks indoors with others outside without mask as if they have nothing to worry about they've you me and my family is overreacting and paranoid. I understand the need to get moving, but how can I communicate that this virus is dangerous? If not to them, personally by spreading, it can make other people at vulnerabilities be put in harm's way. What can I? I do he asked? People do not listen until they are personally affected by very frustrating. Yeah, I mean Dr Like me have been harping on this for months now and I think unfortunately this has become politicized in a way that it's almost like the science doesn't matter. It's more about here's my tribe and the way that I communicate loyalty. My tribe is by saying. This is what I believe about the virus and Signaling they call your sand to your tribe members that you're like minded and I. think unfortunately especially when it comes to masks, I mean even Goldman, Sachs has come out, and said the most important thing we could do to protect our economy right now. We'd probably save about a five percent hit to our GDP is if we all wore masks. This is not a debate about science. This is not even from an economic perspective. It's very straightforward. It's become a political symbol in a way. That's really dangerous. We have I. think a very subversive email from Andrew Johnson. Who says he's a historian of twentieth? Century Germany. And he's got a list of questions here that have to do with the trade off. Between social distancing and other measures and the cost in lives and the cost to the economy, and the benefits to everybody who would benefit from a healthy economy. So he writes because of social distancing twenty percent of working Americans have lost their jobs. Tens of millions of people and their families are now Hungary standing inbred lines. Social distancing is stripped. Children have adequate education loneliness. Already a public health issue is increased. Several fold humans are social animals who never evolved living alone? We've way we're weighing saving lives again, social and economic damage. and. He says he's a liberal, but he understands why. Conservatives are angry that liberals have ignored what he calls this question. Do you have any opinion about this except it sounds like where a mask. The framing of the question is all wrong. Because it's framed as public health versus the economy, it's you won't have an economy without public health. If you have people dying the way they were in new. York back in March and April. People won't be going to restaurants. Ville be dead. They'll be dead or dying or in the hospital or just plain too scared to go out. So. What we got wrong as we really need to lock down a lot more aggressively throughout the country all at once and concerted fashion, the way a lot of other countries did, and then as we lifted those lockdown measures to have a plan B, which was things like wearing masks, and you know that doesn't prevent us from going to school or working, but you need to suppress the. The transmission enough to get to that point and we miss that opportunity, and now we've let things rebound tremendously and now conversations about. Can we go back to school safely in the fall I mean we had our opportunity here over the spring summer and we really blew it. What is it in your opinion? What is it? We can do right now to help everybody get through this. I mean I think the sad reality is that we probably need to reinstitute lockdown measures in many parts of the country. We need to rain this N. get this suppressed enough. That, then the wearing of masks and Those kinds of more simple measures would be enough to contain you know things like testing contact tracing and wearing masks would really be at the forefront of our conversation right now if we had done the right thing in the last couple of months, show what we WANNA. Do is reset the right thing. Is that what I understand? Exactly exactly we need to go back to. The beginning of square one, but even before square one because that's how much we've allowed this to to to propagate at this point. Is there a time in your opinion coming where people are going to be issued citations for not wearing masks? Yeah I. DO think that is in our in our future. And I think it I hope there's some thought given to how that's done. Because I think if you're giving citations to people well, for example, a person of color, a man of color who's afraid to wear a mask because of racial profiling or to somebody who just can't afford them or isn't given those mass in their place of work. To be a little bit careful how that's instituted! I would love to see though a system where he the fine you were charged would increase exponentially just like the virus increases exponentially I think that would be a great lesson for people about a viral transmission would. If you're caught multiple times, you mean yeah. WHOA if you're a reunion commander. Okay. This leads us to cool email. I think from Kyle. Who writes. An essential worker in manufacturing studying for a mechanical engineering degree. Right on. Are there any data to suggest correlation between government spending on healthcare infrastructure? And the hospitalization or death rate from Kobe nineteen did the countries that invest more in healthcare before this epidemic have outcomes as give us some ways to mitigate a future pandemic. Yeah, it's a little bit tough to make those precise correlations, because it depends a little bit on where you're investing your money in the health system, so just because you bought a lot more. Mariah skinner's for example does not mean that you were better equipped to deal with. Cova did, but I do think in general. Governments that have spent more in public health, and surveillance. They have done better. You know countries for example like Singapore or South Korea that mounted these of contact tracers, and have done massive testing since very early on have fared much better, so that does seem to be a worthwhile investment here. This is from Lynette belt. Is Cova teen an evolutionary pressure that is I guess. Does it produce evolutionary pressure? Will it change us as a species? Well, some of that depends on which who dies at the highest rate, so the nine thousand, nine hundred and Spanish flu, one of the things that was really interesting about that fluids. It was a lot of young people you know people in their twenties and thirties who are dying from that and those are people who are normally getting pregnant, having kids passing on their genetics, so if the people who are dying are under, it's going to have less evolutionary pressure than if it's killing people of what we call reproductive age. So I I think that remains to be seen because the first cases first deaths that we had in this country were more concentrated among older people, and now we're starting to see a lot more cases among younger people. We just don't know if they're gonNA. See the same levels of death in in that younger group as we saw earlier on. Your running the show right now you're in charge. Is there anything or a few things you want everybody to know? I mean I think one hundred percent, the most number one number, two number, three thing most important things you could be doing right now is to wear a mask when you are leaving your home when you're outside your home I think by far. That is the thing that seems to make a huge impact on transmission. And that might actually save lives here. There you go, everybody. Dr Gander says wear a mask getting coming from me, our guest today has been Dr Selene Gander. 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Craig Morgan Teicher Reads Forrest Gander
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What drew you to this poem while you're looking through our archive? Well, it has the same title as a poem of mine that's in the archive. And so that made it easy. I actually had a really hard time picking a poem. I mean, there's so I mean, obviously there so much almost one hundred years of pretty good home. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, some of them really some of the major poems of. Any poets kind of education in poetry. But but Finally, I just sort of decided to go with my gut, and when I had I read this when it came out it it slaughtered me. And it wasn't that long ago. But I think of when I think of New Yorker poems that that mattered to me this one kind of jumps right now. So all why don't we hear the poem his Craig Morgan tiger reading son, by Forrest gander, son? It's not the mirror that is draped. But what remains unspoken between us? Why saying anything about death? How the body comes to deploy the myriad worm? As if it were a manageable concept, not searing exquisite singularity to serve it up like a eulogy or a tale of my own or your own suffering, some kind of self abasement. And so we continue waking to a decapitated son and trees continue. To irk me, the heart of charity bears its own set of genomes you lug a bacterial swarm in the crook of your knee and through my guts rive helmets. Parasites who was ever only themselves at leftists Magna when your mother, and I were young we came across statues of gods with their faces and feet cracked away by vandals. But for the row of guardian Medusa heads, no one so brave to defaced those when she spoke when your mother spoke, even the leashed greyhounds stood transfixed, I stood transfixed. I gave my life to strangers. I kept it from the ones. I love her one arterial child it is just in you her blood runs that was quite beautiful. I love how you were at it. That was son by Forrest gander which way. In April, sixteen twenty eighteen issue of the magazine, and this poem, you know, is occasion. It seems clear by the loss of his wife that great poet CD right who happens to be my old teacher. And so this poem. I remember reading it and thinking what a powerful. Fearless Gimblett I'd poem. And I, you know, just thinking of a technically on the page. You have these couplets, which of course mirrors these pairs, both father and son and mother, and and son and husband and wife, you know, the whole of these connections, you know, even us reader, and and and poet, and you also have that great slant rhyme. I kept it from the ones I love. It's just you her blood runs. Those sounds. I think what do you make of sort of the form and the the tone how they kind of coalesce. I mean, I mean, so I think two things, you know, in in addition to the couple of which of course, you have this kind of twinning the lines are wildly uneven. You know? And so there's this way that it seems to strain against that. Like, you know, it's a poem about failing to communicate ultimately in. So there's this way that the the mishopin lines. To figure that. But then the other thing that I, you know, especially reading it aloud, you know, this mix of short and long sentences. The great, you know, the greyhound stood transfixed iced transfix these moments where he's repeating himself. He's he's trying to get it. Right. And kind of veiling. You know in the second to last line. I gave my life to strangers. I kept it from the ones I love. I mean, he's trying to he's almost trying to rewrite that phrase and make it more true or something. And you know, that that seems to keep happening the sentences have these little right tensions and arguments with each other. They also have these great mix of Anglo Saxon words in Latin eight words, you lug a bacterial swarm in the crook of your knee and through my guts, writhe Helmuth parasites, you know, this kind of it almost seems SCI fi. But you know, this this medical. Language, in a way. And here you have that tension too. I think that is strange about losing someone you love, which is there is a kind of clinical quality to it at least in our modern world. And I think for for Gandra too. I mean so much of his practices opponent has been to take the language of science language of archaeology, the language of these academic disciplines, and then sort of export it into the beautiful mode of the lyric, and I feel like the other tension. This poem begins to figure it's like the tension of habit. Right. I mean, he's trying to get out. I mean, this is Forrest gander is vulnerable as he ever gets. You know, the the book this comes from and this poem foremost in the book, and I feel like you, you know, he couldn't resist his tendency to include words, like Helmuth parasites. And yet he's you know, it's about her his child her child. You know, the these very simple words, and I wanted to end this. Title. Does that too laces us in this way because it could be called something else? And I it's vector. Yeah. You know, son. It's not the mirror that is draped. Whoa. I mean from there. You're you're connecting to that tradition. A morning of draping a mirror to the myriad worm. Which is like this terrifying, yet familiar, at least in the lyric poem thing. But you know, he is connecting to this tradition of allergy that is both about being clear eyed about loss and death, but also thinking about meaning, you know, thinking, what's after and, you know, at some level only he would would would take the worm which is such a basic worse, and then get into like, well, what kind of worm and what sorts of parasites. Do we all carry on relate to the worms that come to us after death? And right. You know, but he also is well aware to serve it up like a eulogy over a tale of my or your. Own suffering. You know, some kind of self abasement, there's a self critique in the whole poem. That is also a critique about allergies in general. Which are you know, they do this thing elegies that is like I can't possibly right or go on the poem goes on for fifty page. And you know, I feel like also it's that after the death of a parent. You know, you want this conversation with the other parent, you know, where they make it right where they? Supply what has been taken away. And this is also a critique of that wish in a way, you know. I mean that that that he's saying, you know, why say anything about death like. This is this is him trying to save the anything about death and also admitting I don't have much to say, you know, and I'm grief-stricken I'm not much help, right? And this description her one arterial child that is a really powerful notion, you know, and that that goes back to the singularity of as if death were a manageable concept and not searing exquisite singularity, which I think is such a beautiful phrase to describe complicated disturbing singularity. And he's also then saying, you know, there's this one Ness that I'm also trying to express. And I I mean, I feel like I should have looked up. Exactly what the singular already connotes. But, but I, but I I mentioned this kind of you know, what used to happen with old TV's when you shut them off. And it would suck into this dot in the middle. Right. You know? I mean, just that that the life sucks into this dot in the middle and has gone and healing that. That's what the. Poem is trying to animate like that's how I mean that that's where he is right now like that life has been. Kind of just sucked out of the world. And he doesn't he's just numb. What do you make of this Medusa heads in the middle? I think it's amazing. So obviously, we have the worms right? The worms at some level emerges protection. Right. No one wants to touch the worms. But but also, I don't know this sort of inviolable afterlife creature. Well, it's it's sort of myth and connection. But also that these things aren't inviolable. Yeah. Can be vandalized and gotten wrong, but no one dares against the Medusa heads. And I mean that that there's something that we won't touch. There's some you know, and that maybe we should stay away in our allergy. We can't quite look at. And I think this transfix in that happens with the greyhound who I think I met once, you know, and then stands there transfixed. There's a beauty in that that there's you know, an everything seems tied is very hard to write a poem that is autobiographical. But it isn't. I went to the store yesterday. How do you? How do you convey, the vast -ness of the feeling and what I try to help, you know, students or readers understand? Sometimes is that, you know, a good lyric poem, especially enacts, you know. And this really does a lot of enacting both of memory, and of you know, of the process of grief and also that process, you're mentioning where you can't quite say. Yeah. And you know, it it it. It's also a marvelously concise catalogue of a lot of what they did together to one of the main things they did was travel, right? And go to these, you know, excavate ruins, and, you know, CDs new book, that's just out is is all about, you know, these massive trees that you know, she would go see that. I'm sure they saw together just bringing the ruins in there as a metaphor. But also, just a biographical note. I also think it's a he's he's dodging a little bit. You know, he's sort of going to the left of where the poem needs to go in a way because it's so painful, I mean, just just to leave the conference. Action and go to leftists Magna. Well, there's that idea who has ever only themselves, which is an amazing question. It's a question of connection. But also of this again singularity that is being both invoked in violated at the same time. And these things that are on us an NS all the time and some of them are biological things fair sites, but some of them are also emotional things. And that kind of it's another way of saying fine. Then I contain multitudes, you know, these multitudes are different. And I think every poet comes to their own multitude, and it's really powerful to see his I do that here. And I think one of the big figures in his multitude was he, you know. And I and I think that's there too. I mean that that he, you know, the poem speaks to w- without her. He feels like a good deal of hisself. His is absent and then trying to find it in the sun. Or one, you know asking how you can he looked for it. They're not even fair powerful and gave my life history. Injures? I kept it from the ones I love him. And that's ones. That's a story of poetry. Sometimes, you know, he's talking about being poet, I feel and what does that mean? How do you do that? And you know, I'm not a huge fan of a semi colon that that is semi-colon from the have a, you know, it's like the most amazing say Zura to to say these two things that are simultaneous and true. Yeah. Wouldn't it? I mean to me it looks like a full chrome, you know, it makes for a seesaw. So that you never know which end of the sentences is kind of emphasized one. Yeah. Kind of rotates it's very powerful. And I think again, it's both kind of twinning we were talking about. But also kind of do a hit and too wet with silence within communication, but also, you know with that pause. And those those two parts of that last line. Yeah. And yeah, it is about being a poet to. It's like you put your. Best stuff in the poems or that you retreat into your little writing nook while the kids are still awake or you. Yeah. You know, all of that stuff that we do to get the writing done. Well, you have a son poem. We're going to look at too. It's about the lack of the same conversation in a way, you know, from a different angle, but you know, in the background of this poem is, of course, is the fact that my mother died when I was fourteen and so then my relationship with my father was very much about conversations not had, you know. And continues to be well, let's hear it. So this is son from the August twenty eighth twenty seventeen issue of the New Yorker. Son. I don't even know where my father lives, I know his number and whenever I call he answers in gives the usual update about getting together with the step kids and their kids about the latest minor crises with his health about what he did with Marianne for their aniversary. He lives somewhere in Connecticut near where he lived before. It's been easy not to go there. But I know I should there won't always be more time. There will always be less. I don't even know. My father's address. That was done by Craig Morgan tighter. WNYC studios is supported by extra hop the enterprise, cyber analytics company, delivering security and performance from the inside out as organizations expand to the cloud and beyond. Major breaches are announced nearly every day enterprises. Need a better way to identify and resolve fisted threats. Extra hop cut through the noise with complete visibility and machine learning so you can act quickly and with confidence rise above alerts rise above threats rise above the noise. Learn more at extra hop dot com. So this is a sonnet. Did it come to you as a sonnet? Or was it something you fought toward or you always knew or tell us about how that came out. This poem came about five months into a time of writing nothing, but rhyming sonnets of which there are probably one hundred and fifteen of them are not terrible. And this is one of the not terrible ones. This is definitely not. You know, like, Iran Connecticut with but in the way that is unexpected. Powerful. So you were right on the sonnet binge which I've been on those before. I mean, they're a powerful addictive for. Yeah. Yeah. You can get a lot of stuff said in a little box. Yeah. And they lead to more like they're multiplies like my. So tell me of how this one in particular, one of my favorite stories about this poem is that of course, when the New Yorker accepted it I got a call. And they were like, well, you know, we have to fact check it. And I thought oh God. Because I was thinking if there's one place I can hide a poem from my father. It's in the pages of New Yorker, you know, and so I could just write this hide in plain sight is this is a poet sticking, by the way. But okay. Sure, right. And the poem definitely portrays a relationship that is worse than the one that we actually have though, there's I think a lot of truth to it. Sure. You know? But so I was like, oh God he's gonna feel so bad. You know, he's going to read this, and he's going to feel like I hate him. And you know, it was fine. I had to call him and just like dad, here's a poem. They're going to call. You and ask, you know. I mean, I don't know. What fact check their like, do you live somewhere in Connecticut? And he's like, yes, you know. So so there's a funny way that this about disconnection ended up creating a little bit of a connection. Let's amazing. I do think it's a poem in the same way that that forest is saying, you know, why say anything about death. I mean, this is a poem written twenty five years after that conversation should have happened. And didn't you know? And so a hate to ask about the secrets we don't have in front of us. But does the poll the poll through the poems? Think about this loss or the group of poems. This comes from a is about moving to New Jersey. And it's about kind of moving there as a family, as you know, in what that means to set up a life there, and what it means to have little kids and to pass down to them. One's you know, the good the good things about oneself and one's. You know, ones griefs and the problems that you will inevitably recreate your children when a sonnet is oddly suited for that. Because it's a form of inheritance. It's an inherited form, and you're in it. You're you're thinking about sort of expectation and lack of expectation, you know, in the rhyme does a really good job there will there will always be less. I don't even know. My father's address that really devastating rhyme. It does remind me a bit of forest palm. Which of course, was published later. But yeah. And you know with with rhyme. There's a wonderful way that rhyme makes things sound like their facts. You know, it must be true at rice, something that politicians seem not to understand. So what what does rhyme do for you? Is that connection is that? I mean, I mean, I mean, I think I love the way that that that rhyme creates this inevitable sense of association between two words. That have nothing to do with each other. And you know, rhyming, Connecticut, and but elevates the word, but a heck of a lot, you know, but with one T, sir, you know, an, and you know, to create an association between the word before and more, you know, they have to do with each other you. Yes. Especially in this context. But, but then also there's just the wonderful sense of like making it click, you know, an and writing and rhyme reminds me of the makes me feel like words are things, you know, because it it. It's about the sound. And so you you sense as as sonic objects as little wave wave lengths that are clicking together. I love I love the word inevitable. You used, you know, there isn't something when you look back at a solidly made poem that you wanna move, you know, or change, it feels exactly right. And again, this I well, it might be very close to you. It has. Kind of quality of any sun and any son's relationship to in this case, a father when and I think that's one of the other things that I love about using received forms and about rhyme life doesn't happen in rhyme or inform. And so I feel like just writing something in a form. Like this gives you a certain distance. You know, makes it a little bit more like fiction that can be helpful in terms of being able to say things. I mean, you know, say things that are hard. I mean, again, it's like I think the lettuce magnetic moment is also like forest giving himself away to say something getting away from the most painful matter with something that he finds interesting to think about so that he can get back to that transfixed. Greyhound and himself one. That's also bene- for as you take something far from something else and say they are the same. I'm gonna put them next to each other. And it's like when you make the still life of these two or three things suddenly activated, and the there's a connection and some of that is rhyme. Some of that is Jackson position, especially I think in a free verse poem, the juxtaposition to become all the more important and the eye or the e e that takes you through the aspects of one's self hood are really powerful. And I think one of the most amazing things that can happen in poetry, and maybe nowhere else in it definitely happens in for this poem is when you actually are trying not to say the thing. But metaphor makes you say that you come back around the other side, he was almost trying not to talk about CD. And then you know with that Medusa, but it forces him in a way. Well, because you said this wonderful. Thing that I had to write down life doesn't happen in rhyme. But it in the way it happens in metaphor. And so the the metaphors kind of like, a image rhyme or emotional rhyme. Like these two things are connected for me. And I think there's something about that with place in your poem the phone call. There's that kind of place in distance thing that we've all experienced in some way that you really make kind of both specific. And I love the use of the name and the poem. But then also universal one. Yeah. There's a sense. I feel like that. I'm not calling from so far away and wherever am Connecticut's. Not that far. But gosh, I wouldn't go there. I but dislike happened in metaphor. I'm making contentions. Let's do it. I mean, I, you know, I we can't talk about it other than in metaphor there. It is true. That once like, especially death death is not a metaphor. That's what's. So you know, it is real and utter an utterly, you know, complete and unknowable and done and final in a way, but we make metaphors of it or try to approach it as writers as livers, you know. And I guess that's what interests me is the way we make meaning, and I think sonnets are very aware of making meaning and of the making parliament of the the effort part of it they're synthesized their their synthetic, and that artifice is a kind of bomb in a weird way. At least I find. Oh, definitely. So you're you reading more of them there. This was like a two year period where I wrote nothing, but I'm so not. Not so much. Have you published them as a whole, they're they're they're very in? My my new manuscript and a few of them have appeared here and there, but no not as a whole. And so tell us I want to turn a little bit and talk about sort of your day work, or you know, a publisher's weekly tell us about what you do there. And and how you approach it will I am the director of special editorial projects. So what does that mean? I don't know. I ended our sponsored content is essentially what I do which is you know, kind of the new frontier magazine and advertising. So I'm in charge of that. I mean, I've worked there for fourteen or fifteen years now. So I've kind of had every job. Yeah. When can have their unease champion poetry there in a way? Yeah. Because been really important. Yeah. I mean, and so I I no longer edit the poetry views. I recently. Hired a wonderful young put in my see Popa to to edit those reviews, and so I get to work with her a little bit. Do you still get to see the breadth of what's out there and trained on? How do you see what's out there in poetry, which is a question? I get so happy to ask someone else. And I do a lot of writing about poetry for many publications. So I, you know, I still want ends up on these galley lists and one gets galleys forever. Which is wonderful. You know? I don't know. I mean every year I do think for NPR where I look at the coming year. And so I get everyone to tell me what they have coming out in the whole next year. And then I sort of see it and make my picks for what I think is important. But I'm always surprised in a way that there are always these like dozen books that seem to actually really speak about the moment. And I always wonder if that's you know, there there were all accepted two years ago. But somehow I dunno. There's a book called hybrid coming out by Tina Chang, and it's incredible. And it seems to me to be. Just as this book that we need this year so much it's about, you know, raising her son who is, you know, whose fathers black, and she's Asian and just sort of what that. Just the fierce that that that is. You know, engendering in her the other ones. Yeah. We'll for formal poetry. There's this wonderful point. I hadn't known about before named Chelsea Rathburn. And it's this book from LSU press. And she's just she's a dedicated formalist. Every poem is in a rhymed form, the poems are as dismal as you could possibly, you know, they're they're about just raising a child and family and being you're just feeling all this ad misses that come with life. But it's just marvelous every, you know, everything clicks in it. It's just wonderful. These are good suggestions. Yeah. And good poets. I mean, I think there's a larger question, which is are you surprised anymore by the breadth, and you know, health of American poetry for one or English language poetry or the poetry. That's being written all over the world. I mean, it, you know, I I don't think I could have imagined ten years ago. What would happen which is that poetry for better and worse, but mostly for better has become something that can speak a lot closer to them. Mainstream. Then you know, I ever before. I mean that that a poet like Dennis Smith can actually talk to regular people who don't, you know, didn't decide to dedicate their lives to poetry. And I mean, so I think a lot of people are reading these things that are really thinking in really nuanced ways a about all kinds of experiences. I mean, it's it's sort of dizzying, you know, I don't know how to you know, I don't like social media enough to want to keep up with it. But you know, there's a lot of incredible poetry coming out. And it's it's very urgent. And that's right. You know, I it was not looking like that would happen. Yeah. I mean a few years ago, I wrote about poetry of necessity, and I feel like it's all around us. Now, there's this necessary thing that people are trying to for the truth. That's in poetry that you know, may outlast a sound bite or should outlast, you know, even us, and there's a really. Interesting fervor and urgency as you put it that. I see every day. And you know, there's also become a place for poetry that maybe doesn't last for you. You know, eons, but that communicates in its moment using all those nuance tools. And then is, you know, irrelevant before it could even make it into a book, you know. But but poetry was never able to communicate that way before you know, like a like a part of a conversation. So that's kind of incredible. That's great. Well, put Craig thanks so much for chatting with us today. It's a pleasure son by Craig Morgan tiger as well as four scanners poem son can be found on the worker dot com force ganders most recent poetry collection is be with Craig Morgan Tigers latest book, his we begin and gladness how poets progress. 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Service Dog Show - Task Dogs: A Service Dog Expo (UPDATE To Schedule)
"The views and opinions expressed by this show or any other show TV radio, and it's strictly those of set and vigils do not reflect those Ev radio staff, nor the staff dysfunctional veterans. Welcome to the service dog show I'm your host Joaquin One also known as P. T. S.. Dog and I've Scab I wanna let the audience knows you know Scotland. We've worked together. We share information back and forth. Iran scout as my service dog as hearing, dog, PTSD, Daw, we're here to bring you. News interviews information about service dogs, and about matters that are of interest to the service dog community. Thank you for joining us on the service. Dog Shit on DVD radio wd. Welcome to the dog show I'm your host walking Watson staked? Your host scab with us today. We are actually really happy to have Steven Bender Task Dogs Twenty Twenty and John Jacobs from the yeager foundation. Gentlemen. Thank you so much for joining us. And thanks. And look. We're here to talk to you about tests. Dogs Twenty twenty. Give you some updates and. We But first and foremost want to make sure everybody understands task. Dogs has not been canceled. It has been moved until September and Steven. Oh Philipson on that, but due to the shutdowns and social distancing and everything going on because of the the virus, task dogs was forced to be pushed to the right. On schedule. However, thank you Steven for sticking it out and. Insisting that your event is going to happen. We are still going to have test twenty. Twenty Service Dog Expo. And before we get into details about that, I would just like to touch real quickly on something one of the speakers who is tentatively still scheduled to attend a WHO would have been there at the original date. Islam Hajj with His Service Dog Gander. Ganders going through some very severe health issues unfortunately the C word is involved lawn, WanNa. Make sure you know that no matter what happens your major voice in the Veterans Service, dog. Handling Community you have our full support. We. We give your thoughts and prayers to you and Gander every day. Honestly? I'm watching this with with with a broken heart because. One of my favorite quotes about service dogs comes from lawn and it's. It's simply a very brief rundown of a public interaction. Some stranger says you don't look like you need a service dog. And laws response was. That's because I. Have a service stock. that. Attitude of empowerment. That lawn has shared. Along with his life with Gander. His been inspirational to me. So many times, so folks listen if you know who they are, please give him support. If you don't know who lawn, Hodge and Gander are checkout operation, fetch on facebook and learn about the amazing things. They've been doing for homeless veterans and for service daughters And sorry to get things kind of. In, a little bit of a sad mode, but Knowledge that you know what these things happen. Our dogs are mortal and. We need to make sure that we offer support to our brothers and sisters who are struggling with the mortality. Their service dogs lawn. If you listen to this. We're here for you buddy and Whatever you need, just reach out. Okay Stephen Talk to us a little bit about toss, dogs, and and what we're looking at. Okay I, appreciate your show again, my. Goes you know we were originally going to have this? June six at the period events that under their gray summit. Missouri just outside of St Louis. But because of the virus, going around all that the canceled events, and we had to move the date twice, and when we have now is September twenty six. Would be at the Gateway Hall. It's A. Thirteen thousand five hundred square foot. Then you and It'll be ten am to four. Pm Saturday September Twenty Six. And we're. Looking to have maybe thirty forty vendors, you know organizations and that kind of thing. Or tables I would call it. An annual speaker area had A. Quite a lineup of people including you watching and non if he could still make it, but we know what's going on with that. You can't and you know. We had Justin Tucker and Roxy. The PTSD service dog got him on the lineup. and. Him On talk, the topic of that lineup have. Oh. It's kind of interesting disadvant- it started out. The first one we worked on, say we. There's a chat group. Of US you'll people I. Know Friends of mine that worked on one year and a half ago a small. Event at a park and say Charles County. That it came out of that was one organization to having. Twenty or so at the last event to whatever it becomes this event and then next year. Who knows but I'm looking at the list on a computer in front of me and got a Marine Corps veteran steam Steve Hamm. He's a friend of mine. He's from near Cape Girardeau Missouri Southeast Missouri. And Luke Ryan. with dogs health. They're the ones that rented the hall for me. they. The parent, Organization Contract Ford. And that helps give a little bit of break on the venue expense, right and then the next person in the lineup contacted me which was kind of surprised, but I'm thankful for. There's a person named emily schooling from out in Sacramento. And she does service dog consultations, and that's named for business she used. If I understand it right, she'll go around to businesses and help educate the management team the business owners. How their people are supposed to interact with service dogs. While public good, that's. Right, that's. Perfect for this kind of event I think Oh and then going down the list There's a Girl College, student and Connecticut I forgot. Counties in doesn't matter, but her name's Ashton Ashton Gunnery. If I pronounced that right, she has quite a following Tiktok. And she contacted me from Connecticut and said Hey. You'll only be part of that that you WANNA do that. You're on Tick Tock. You've got that many followers. You can have your own speaker time because he wants to talk about. Mental health issues. perhaps her personal experience which I. Don't know what it is yet I. Don't ask, but. She's. Got GotTa time spot on there also and So. We Have A. Tentatively Jared McGowan who was there last year and he's a Marine Corps veteran. He wrote the book the heart of the marines kind of personal account when he was in Iraq. And then there's Trent Dirks. He's an army veteran. I. Just made a post about him on the pets. Dogs page the other day with his service dog tracer. That's the one that He got through retrieving freedom out of Iowa. And he later trained it to be his duck hunting dog, so that dog has two jobs now only does it fetch and retrieve out in the wild for him so his adhd service dog. I love that story. You know I found out that he had a I I liked duck honey so naturally. It clicked with me. But. That's story of his his personal account. On the test dogs page pages to. It's the pin the post. The all want to take a look at it if you haven't already is pretty. It's pretty tough to read, but he put it out there so I appreciate it, and I think in for and I think retrieving freedom for. Him Up with tracer to. And next online had Justin. Tucker, just to be back with Roxy, the PTSD service dog and he probably have. One of his you know if he doesn't bring for being his Duchy Play because he calls played, but by the way if you don't know who Justin Tucker is Roxie Ptsd Service. was named the America's humane service dog of the year. For, nine twenty nineteen. Twenty two thousand, eighteen, eighteen. Yeah us that he will handler runs a pit bull that attacks everybody Oh, yeah, those the the vicious murder doggy. Yeah, right. Big of a marshmallows as Boogie at our house. I gotTA take. I've got a picture of a kiss, my mom. Sweetheart. Justin is absolutely fantastic pastor for bully breeds with Roxie and Roxy couldn't be a better example of a well trained. Dog, and just all those those bolt pit bull haters. You know they literally cannot argue with Roxy. Just it's just there's no argument. I mean. I it up earlier the week about the owner approach approaching may about that pit bull coming in. Just the one that just POPs into my head anytime. Somebody approach about that stuff. And like I don't care what as long as task screen service dogs, how to behave cares what breed this? Yeah, and it's the you know the way he just come at me well. It's a pit bull and I give a shit why yeah and that is! What exactly? Sorry Stephen I'm Doris. The accolades adjusted to Roxie because they have done more for bully, breeds and acceptance than anybody has. and and so it's great. It's great him as part of the group absolutely. So after Justin who else we got. After Justin would be lawn Hodgin Gander without basic pitch. That is as you spoke on earlier. That's tentative, so we'll. That's boss, GonNa remain with his name on whether he can make it or not I'm just going to with there and absolutely you know. One, welcome! Even if it's just in honor of of Gander, we we're not way no. We're just saying you know what lawn and Gander deserve. Gander also is a an alumni of the American humane service dog of the year award so. Yeah. Ganders and Ganders doodle on. He's seven now and I think he was the twenty fifteen or twenty sixteen. America's humane service dog of the year Nice, so yeah, lawn and Gander are fantastic. Ambassadors for service, dogs and Cain if if you could you get Kenny Bass? Reaching half to him Kenny best and atlas. They were last year, weren't they? That was about I think they were the year before raw do I. Don't know them, but I'll reach out. Okay, I thought. Maybe you're unseen with him to. I hit hit. Miss with with Hawaii able to connect with. for various reasons and But like to. Take Erste out and see if we know somebody that knows them. Yeah, yeah, we will reach out. We'll see what we can do. Absolutely he he had planned to come to the one in June this year, but he does his battle Buddy Foundation. he doesn't major fundraising. At that time so. He didn't pursue it any farther, but. I don't think he's got a you know if he's available. There's no reason why we couldn't try to get him. I think he's in Ohio Yeah. Okay, okay, well, we'll. We'll use all the networking. We can to try and reach out. Dessel after long hodge after a long time, John My speaker list is no Nicole in hand from six PTSD. Support Dogs in Collinsville. Annoy nothing. She's been quite instrumental in that pause. Act trying to get it passed. Don't get US started. But. We, do not approve of the prospect collective, okay? Fell I I'm I'm putting. On thinking that's where she that on I. Don't remember okay but anyway she's the she's. the one in charge of the organization near Collinsville Illinois. and. You know for two thirty I had. Meyer, but she doesn't know she can make. Break from. The truth about service dogs the facebook aid. Now. So family obligations military spouse obligations. They're understand. Right right. Well I'M GONNA get. Farther details on that, but. The, follow on after that would be Joaquin Otay so. Trying to get. Her to have. Guy. I tried to get him Outta town several times, but he's. He's about his stubborn as service. You have no. Longer hair than his service. Right Now! Cut! Stephen It's an honor. It's an honor to have been invited, and to have the opportunity to speak. I'm still planning on attending Even if I have to get up at two thirty in the morning on Saturday. Drive out there do my thing and come back. Sunday I. DON'T CARE I. Know, you're you're at least giving me an hour afterwards to have a drink. No Hell Ya if A nut had it might have to be like you know. quadrant will shots a coffee, but yeah. Whatever your pencil and me and Consider yourself penciled. I'd? Okay. L. Everyone brother. I just heard that in both voices that we. Just heard it from a navy guy and. It's bad for you, buddy. I was a Corwin though my pencil. More of a silver bullet. Seems a carbon, so you know he's. He's you STU. Probing the Pencil Yeah, that's what I think. This is just going. Fan But nobody likes polyps. Jerky can cough buddy. Which one I got four. No, this is awful. Get a room. Full of veterans see Stephen is what you're looking forward to roomful of this is this is where it inevitably ends up, yes. We look out we end up talking about. That's that's what we go. It all ends up their. Personality I think because I don't have a disability. I don't have a service dog. I wasn't in the military. Yet I'm advocate. Follow that you know. You know what we appreciate it. We need support people you who want to make sure that the word gets out there. That education is available and that we have an opportunity to to attend. These kinds of things were a place where we have a voice. That's important because there are not a lot of places where we are welcome. With open arms for the intents and purpose of having a voice, and you know what it's. It's also a fantastic networking opportunity for these for these programs found. Yeah, yeah, and and and up your farts like me and Scab who we have our pin well John To. We have young John Programs. Chance to sit down and talk with the people who are hurting programs and run the programs yet and share our views and share where we. Like to see the service dog community go So I think it's really important to have this kind of opportunity. But the other aspect which may be more important than the networking. Is reaching out to the general public. So my question to you Stephen is how are we going to? How can we help you advertise task talk twenty twenty in September. So that we can encourage more participation from the general public. Right now the only. Media Platform I have is facebook you don't have. A website or anything like that to help promote it. I expected to gain as much attention and. I'M GONNA. Tell you right now to speak for bow, and on behalf of Devi. Radio and say radio station behind you. It's intermittently, but but We'll get offline. Later this week next week. Some time will work will work on some donating some. A. Airtime commercials so I'm putting my life I've put myself in the in the line here. Bow, and if you. Want you my ass, my ass, but this is something that's important so. Tearing. Right now, Delta in him with the. Right one thing. One thing that I like to do is get with the somebody with a Saint Louis Media. I haven't been able to do that yet. I've I've sent. Inquiries Different News outlets. Send US your story, suggestion or something like that I never hear back from anybody so at some point, I may just you know post on that test page that anybody in the area that wants to help. Promote this you know, help us out, know the people that are in the Saint Louis area knows about it. Well I have to say Saint Louis is kind of a great location. Because, you can draw people from all over the east coast fairly easily, and you can drop people from all over the Mid West. So there's enough people for whom this is. An event. That is important enough. They're going to take the time to do the traveling and come. Seat lers fairly central location. East of the Rockies, so this is I mean. Honestly I could see people coming from as far as Nebraska if it is presented in such a way. That's it that it's important enough to them right? It's a trip if you really wanted it to be from most from most of. The states east of the rockies. Yeah, unless you get down into the super deep South or Way Up by the DVD farm up there in New Hampshire Yeah, it is I mean it's Daytrip for most Midwest and eastern states. And I think in my opinion a worthwhile day trip. If this is important to you, so We're yeah. We'll definitely reaching out. Through various veteran networks and see if we can get some support for you Stephen. I cannot I. Don't have media contacts anymore. However I do have military journalism contacts who I may be able reach out. And Touch! Once we start spamming our network. You need never know. You yet? You literally never know who's GONNA pop their head up and say oh. I can help with that and just by you asking asking right now on a radio show. You don't know what veteran or Devi. Might know somebody in Saint, Louis Yeah. You know what I ended up doing for a lot of my stuff, Steve. That I made out a press release I literally looked up. Not just the tip line emails, but also the news reporters and their emails not. I sent that press release to everybody I could knit if finally got somebody's attention like me on so. Yeah, yeah Like I, said Absent Military Journalism Contacts. LemMe were debt network. See if I can get you a list of people in your region. To do that with I can't make any promises, but I'll try. And see if we can't get you connected a locally. But honestly. We need to get the word out. You know in a circle all state surrounding you. To draw bigger audience, and and we will do that. You know you've caught our attention. and. Any veterans you know once once A. Once, we're focused on something where like. We. Don't give up. No. You don't want our attention. That's. You don't want it in a bad way. Right want some squeaky wheels on your side man and. Sometimes! You don't want our attention in a good way either but. Sometimes, we help so hard. The friends like these won't let us. Walking yeah. This. We went over this the last time you talked, but if I could just spend a couple of minutes, and how this began. Yeah, please absolutely. But this is the second time we've had Stephen On for anybody who doesn't know and. And and the support that he's giving the veteran community and the service dog. Handling Community is just immense. It's not just about veterans, but honestly. The most visible and the most vocal service dog handlers tend to be veterans so. Please Stephen, please fill us in and know why task dogs exists. All began with a that I had believe it or not. I had a yellow lab named bell at was. Partnered around the time my dad died. This has been almost thirteen years ago. And I didn't realize it then, but I took the dog with me everywhere. You know I wasn't really emotionally distraught or anything like that it just. That dog. Help me occupy my mind in a different way. It took my mind off of. you know. I, guess. You know the thoughts of my dad's passing or something like that, but. Later on a couple of years ago I was reading an obituary about a to Iraq. Army veteran who apparently took his life? And I have been. Reports more and more frequently. Than young past years. And I wanted to do something however small to help somebody learn about service dogs. And we had this. You know I have some friends that were in Maine. Cord and that and we had a small event. And Fall of two thousand eighteen and I got some more people involved. And we had the first dogs event last year. But. Getting the word out about service dogs veteran is what started this thing? What's happened since then though is? People with service dogs for whatever reason. That not veteran tech, an interesting event I guess. They feel it's another place in the. To share, but they feel or what they think. Because there are people now following that we have who are non veterans with mobility issues who have mental health issues. Whatever and got you know you go through the? facebook listening to people who did I can see there as as a followers, and it's just amazing. How many different people that are! Following it now, that weren't to hear ago. So it's just kind of the complexity of different and I have to rethink. that. It's not just for veterans anymore, but it's for pretty much everybody. which was the case to begin with, but Focus has got to be a little bit different now. That makes sense right, yeah! My pages mostly veteran based, but I have just as many civilian followers as I, do veteran followers. and. And got a to net page to the civilians as well. And here at the funniest we actually. We support veterans, but first responders as well right. And it's the same with PTSD dog I mean. I started this out to help veterans who? Didn't have the knowledge that they should about service dogs and it grew and I'm probably. Probably seventy thirty, maybe sixty forty veteran and civilian of people, following the page and in the group and you know what that's great with. The use of service dogs is is protected by the Americans with Disabilities Act for all Americans notchers clearance and awareness is very important whether you once wore the uniform or not. So I think the fact that task. God is growing and his evolving. His more inclusive is absolutely fantastic because. Although most of the organizations out there that provide service dogs. Most of the nonprofits are veteran focused. If we can increase awareness, maybe we can fix that and start getting organizations that help civilians. because. Many? I get so many. Of question deal mess distant people. How can I get a service dog? How can I get paid for it I'm like I really don't have answers to somebody. It's a first responder or you know. Somebody's been in service that. Other than try to direct them towards somebody who does training? You know it's I mean. That's the number one question. I think all service dog groups on in social media get. How do I deserve stuck? Where do I know? That is the number one question. And unless you. Put your hand up in the air. Is First Responder earn? A veteran. Really don't have an option outturn. Gavin I just did. To show little mini series on red flags for organizations, and our first guest was a civilian, completely civilian young lady who got taken for twenty six thousand dollars by a quote Unquote Service Dog Training Organization. and eight brought hurrying untrained aggressive anime. And she is out twenty six thousand dollars more than six thousand of which she got loans from family member for. We've got to raise awareness, understanding and education so that this kind of thing doesn't happen. I mean it's just. There are great organizations out there. There's a lot of scammers out there, too. So having a place and Opportunity of Forum where we can start educating everybody about what's available and what to look for that is fantastic. It's not something that is existed in the past. There's only a handful of people that I'm going to say. I can guarantee go gator. Go to tabs song. These guys I trust. You and I know that these people are going to be taken care of I. Liked that network to be little bit bigger. You know that I can go all fifty states you know if I get questions and say yeah in this state. Go here Goals as foundation is to create a database of right like that. I had last year when I was working toward first event in June. I ESCA gentlemen different part of the state. I said. Would you be willing to come to this event? He said well. It's out of my area. You know most of my veterans come in. You know probably within a hundred miles or so, but you can still learn. From the other people, you could be a contact at a a network. You know where I came up with that. Teach learn network. Saying that I have teach learn that where you can teach people, you can learn from envy. You can network for whenever you want you know. Pass them onto another organization in a different part of the state or a different state. Altogether you get to meet people you get to. Talk to them and person. And you know share your information and you know everybody's doing this for everybody else says you know. He's got more collect money in his. You Know Kitty there on the table and now. It's just everybody to share information and try to. Help each other out you know. That's how I see it. Yeah, and it's this. How bad do you want it? You know I'm based out a wheeling West Virginia. I drove to Pittsburgh Pennsylvania every Saturday morning. To have scout trained for PTSD. For a year and a half know that's two hours. You gotta be dedicated to do this. It's not an easy trick. You gotta go. You gotTA spend time. You gotTA. Drive back at you. That's gas money that I'm not recovered. It's how. You want to be. Here now I'm GonNa. Put out there you know about. Paying someone to train your service dog people. If you have the financial ability to do that, you know, find the right person right trainers you know. Get it done, but there are some people who cannot afford that. They do different options. They self trained. And I've got the test I was. Page has a following of quite a few people have self train their dogs and they know what they're doing. They know more about night at a lot more. And they know the ADA. You know they know a policies and everything you'll go out of businesses and a couple of these people are out in. South West Missouri and they have a on say it's a facebook. Group called show me service dogs I. Think is what it's called. A girl named Madeline King and Amblin Chrysler. Both out there in Joplin, Springfield area, and they have you know one hundred or so people in that group. most of them have their own dogs, and most of them have a self trained, and you know to do whatever tasks they need to do. You Know Fetch Medicine bag whatever? and I had asked them if they want. They were already painting to come to this event. They were GONNA. August renovated and re- however, they were GONNA get there. Probably six of these people going to bring those service dogs, which was encouraging me. If somebody's wanting to drive that far to come to this event. So I said if you're going to go that far. If you want a table space booth space there to help, promote yourself as a group so long as you pay the. Theme for the. Recall it. Insurance. Dating, you know they use insurance. You can have that spot and said if you would. We could also do a little children. session. Where they can interact, you'll have two different times throughout the day or different times of the day where they bring you know a couple of children in and teach them how to interact or not interact with a service dog you. Your way to just. To be you know my meet and greet. You know. Let them know how best to do that, so. We'll we'll have that spot for them to. Yeah, and that's IT lists. His. It doesn't matter if you're civilian doesn't matter if you are a veteran. What matters is if you have a service dog, you have to be disabled service dogs help. People. So having any all. Handlers able to come his fate and learn and share their experiences in reach out what you know. Why don't these nonprofits? Who Bring in an incredible amount of money every year helps them civilians to. Maybe. It's because there's just not a lot of communication because they started because they saw a need in the veteran community. And? There's just not communication and they just don't understand or aren't aware. That you know things like PTSD service. Dogs are needed outside of the veteran community and outside of the first responder community I am not saying, don't be a veteran, focused organization, or don't be a first responder focused organization I'm saying. There are more people who need your help so focus broader. If you're able. And I'll be real cynical for second say first responders and veterans bring in more donations. That that that heart string that patriotism heart string that Service oriented heartstrings. That's those are easy to pull. Get donations. That is just a a stark reality of American society, and I think we need to start changing it where I think we need to look at any and all disabled people being worthy of donating your time and your money to help to help heal. And so task dogs is a great opportunity. For anybody any part of the disabled community to reach out. To give to share their reality their life. And to. Open People's. Open People's Perspective, you know, give people a little bit of a bigger look at what's going on the world around them. And and helping them realize that the world's a little bit bigger than what they're used to what they think about you know. She would what people don't realize is? There's a second party out there walking like you've seen some of the stuff that I'm doing on the interstates and some of the stuff that I'm doing inside these buildings. There's a second party on that interstate. You've seen the truck accidents. You've seen the car accident. I'm. Somebody out of that car. That's going to need a service dog. They've actually lived through that trauma out there porn amount of the car. You. Know what I mean. So. Why is it that I deserve the service dog more than them? Exactly exactly? And I think that's a key part of the beauty of tasks dogs. Is that that you're open to not just sharing veteran perspective, I appreciate that were first responder perspective that you're open to sharing disabled respective. When it comes to serve stocks, that's fantastic. That's directly need to go. The event is directing itself. I didn't sit down and write down some kind of an outline how this is going to turn out. Know for the future or anything like that. It's just if the if the interest is. If the interest is still there. People come out in September. And I mean we've got a big hall set aside and rented for next year already. Forty thousand, square feet or something like that it's it's big hall. At the PURINA event sitters three times the size one we've got for September. So there's more room for demonstration. If we don't feel it with vendors will have demonstration areas. You know if nothing else right so well and you do have a police. Canine police officers. Lined up to do demonstrations correct well. I had them just as A. Public meet-and-greet. Just because another another task dog, if you will right originally, originally, I I wanted them. As part of this event, but they're sent to the name as service dog expo. I, don't want people thinking that they're. One and the same or something. Yeah they I struggled with the name of a struggle at golfing. The service dog part of it, but it is where it is right now, so. Yeah I have last this past June last year I had had four different canine lined up to be at this event. One was a pacific Missouri Police. Department one was HOW PATROL! canine unit was a I think Saint Charles County electric's device detection dog, and then which I think only to the state of Missouri at that time and and then a Saint Louis Metro police I think. To, those should be there regardless disarray so. That's fun I mean that's. It's another aspect, and yes, you're right. Police dogs military working dogs are not service dogs. Dogs who served? Reminds me. There's a the Air Force Scudder base. I'M GONNA. Try to get somebody from there that will bring in a military working whether it's retired or not I would be honored US yeah yeah. I would be honored to have military working dogs especially when. Did, patrols, or something like that and Afghanistan or something I mean it's not an honor, but yet with me sometime later this week I could use those military journalism connections to try to help. Make that happen. Kayla you said. It's a an air force base. Scott are basically just A. Crossover from Saint Louis. I think yes. Kaelin might be a good contact for you. He's our training consultant. He's a retired Air Force canine handler. Maybe he's got some feelers out there. Yeah Yeah. Yeah absolutely work with US offline to Those connections together well listen. We have got to take a break. You are listening to the service dog. Show right here on TV radio W DVR time. Pay Some bills. We'll be right back after this. Radio. Are you looking for veteran resources and fear support. Objectives zero hasn't APP for that. 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Your uncle left you. There's a tear with rewards waiting for you, so why not keep ev radio running and get rewarded at the same time at the Patriot dot com forward slash Devi radio now. That's Patriot dot com ford slash DB radios. Radio and welcome back to the service dog show. I'm your host Joaquin Wok Tai also known as PTSD. Am Your scab with us today. We've got Steven Bender of tests. Dogs Twenty twenty. The event is still happening. We just had to move to September and we've also got John from the Yeager Foundation Stephen. So who's coming? Who's going to be there a site from speakers at test this year. That's a good question, but I have a number of organizations and some private businesses that. Have expressed interest in. Attending again this year. in September And obviously dogs. That helped him before. They're through Tom Rose school there in the high. Ridge Missouri. Luke reinhold and his wife county. They took care of the the organization to help. Service dogs to veterans that kind of thing so have dogs that help their returning and got your six PTSD support dogs that are just across the river from Saint Louis. And they were there last year we got hometown favourite saint. Louis dogs for our brave. Let's see canines on frontline. They're out of Jefferson City Missouri. It's about a two hour drive from Saint Louis. retrieving freedom has a couple of different locations. One is in waverly Iowa in other words. Sedalia Missouri that I know of. and. They're supposed to have their representatives there and. What has a couple of private businesses like the Academy of Careers Jennifer Chiffon the admission, drinker, or for the you know people don't want to learn how to train. Dogs at the dog training school much like Tom Rose School so Jennifer she's been on this Ono Call IT A. Chat Group I. Guess You'd say with the task dogs from day one. And then there's the Yuppie puppy pets. It's A. Boarding grooming you know that kind of thing, but they also have trainers there who? Trained tasks for dogs. So they, they sit really well into this, too, and in fact, there's. One of my context to facebook page. She just started taking her dog to have. Some You know task training. For her. Mobility issues but. You know we also expect You know the foundation in Michigan, and if you don't mind John, you can tell us about. Who? You are what you do and. I of thing, yeah, absolutely! So at the foundation where our basic goal is to get service dogs, Nancy veterans and first responders with little red tape as possible where. The way we cut down. Our cost is is a big believer in that cooperative training. That cuts out those facility costs and. It just it's a whole whole nother process From from the get, go, you know. With that cooperative training, the dog in their hands right from the get-go starts at Bondi process, which is super important, so a really big advocates just for that old whole concept. And we wanted to bring this up and and Steven. You talked a little bit about this during the break, but listen folks. The one of the big deals has happened. I mean look a whole expert exposition that moved. To September from June. Because of this virus, and that's a huge impact. But I want I want you to think a little bit more about kind of some of the things that have happened because of this. Nonprofit organizations, especially smaller ones like yeager. They rely completely on. Fundraising events things where people go do something and make donations in order to support this. They rely on that and guess what everything got canceled. So. John talked a little bit about the impact that has happened for small nonprofits. All nonprofits really. Little bit about that so obviously our goal is to be a national service but that takes money and you know corporate sponsors are always a possibility, but that takes. Time and people got it no your name before. They're willing to invest their money in you and everything. So just starting out, you know our biggest source of income was doing these local events we had. A dodgeball tournament and a golf outing that we were organizing just all sorts of stuff and covert wipes aboard all of that, so our income dropped to pretty much zero. We got lucky enough that you know there's a a nearby county that worked with us on on allow us into their grant money but if it worked for that, we wouldn't be able to help anybody right because everything's just at a standstill. And and so. Folks the reason I want to bring this up the reason what John's expertise and experiences listen task dogs is an opportunity small nonprofits. Here is a fairly large venue third thirteen thousand square feet. Thirteen thousand, five, hundred, thirteen, thousand, five hundred hundred feet. That is a lot of space. That's a lot of table space. This is a great menu at a nationally recognized location the pure Carina. Farms This is where they do the American Kennel. Club dog shows the some of the big ones they've you know TB. Films. This thinks this is a big location. It's fairly central for anybody east of the ROCKIES. This is an opportunity if you'RE A. Smaller medium nonprofit who has taken a huge impact. In regards to be fundraising. What a great opportunity to sign up context Stephen. Sign up! Co, go go set up a booth. Go Talk to people. Go Network Fun. But that's one of the biggest things we're looking for to. As the anger, foundation I think is a is the networking in one of our goals is to create a database of of trainers around the country. Because we're just a grant program, we provide the money we help you find the trainers, though so you know if we can. If those people can come in and and we can meet them in, get them into our database. You know people can call us from Saint Louis Missouri and be like Hey I'm looking for service dog and we. We can go you know what I. Don't just Guy Yup, and then it's just a matter. Put you in contact with them at writing a check. Dick is if somebody's coming to me up. I Pierce Collins, John and John. You're going to say yes, and I'm the guy in West Virginia or Pennsylvania. So does that huge opportunity for us? Yeah, now, that's networking. You can build. By tending tests dogs twenty twenty. And I'm putting pushes Joe and Steven. I've told you this I. Absolutely one hundred percent support the expo. I. Support What you're doing. Support the fact that as a civilian your. Motivate your movie to make sure that the. Information is available for veterans. What people to know accurate in in an accurate at? Thank you for that. Yeah, you want people to know the truth. You don't want them to know the reality and you want to be able to provide a place where those of us who do service dogs can come together. And share and publicly. To anybody WHO's willing to listen, that is huge that you providing this opportunity but again. It's an opportunity for networking for nonprofits. Here's the thing that we need to years it here's something that I feel strongly. The nonprofit service dog training community needs to do. We need to stop drawing lines and building. Walls. Absolutely to connect with one another network and mutually improve the community not exclusively. do anything not be exclusive. We need to stop. The service community is exclusive, as can be I've seen bore. Facility and downright snobby nece and just ridiculous behavior in service dot community training community, not not an enviable training I've seen some absolutely ridiculous nonsense why? Not Sound those Voss. That's one of the things we issue for. You know if we if we as foundation can't help you ourselves. We're not just GONNA lead you out out. Nuts middle of a field. We're GONNA. We're gonNA find someone who can, and if you don't have that attitude as as a nonprofit for for veterans than you're not in it for the veterans not to call it out. Out but I mean up. Hey, look i. mean that's that's how it is. Yes. Kevin I calling it out for the last three years food focusing on calling that out. Yeah, and you know what I hope. There are some people listening to this that are that are rethinking their position a little bit absolutely, absolutely honestly bottom line. Look, what's the? What is the point of service dog training organizations. It's not to on. The point serve dot training organizations is to save lives and return independence to the people to the disabled people who can benefit from using the service. Stop that. Point. That goes right along with Armato our our match mantra. If you will equip and power endure, we quit the veteran, a first responder so the and empower them to be more independent so that they can endure their day to day life exactly exactly. That's where your focus nonprofits. I'm calling carpet. I absolutely am I am unabashedly calling you nonprofits to the carpet listen. If you're there to get donations, you're wrong. You're there to pay your staff. You're wrong. If you're there to empower your clientele help return them independence and healing and growth. That's where you need to be. If you're more worried about maintaining your facility and your overhead, your focus is in the wrong place. Task Dogs is an excellent opportunity to create the cooperative networking support environment. Where we can change the entire face of the service dog training community. I am not a trainer I speaking as the person that holds the leash, the client and I'm telling you most of you. nonprofits I will not deal with. Because you're not focused on helping meet. Let's refocus. Let's rebuild the reason you started in the first place. Task Dogs is such a powerful tool, such a great place to begin that process of healing, the nonprofit community healing the nonprofit circus stop community. We need that. The the the community is torn in pieces because there are people out, there were scammers. There are people out there who mean well, but don't know enough to to to manage what they're doing. Their people out there who have stop you right there lucky Yep. Say That one more time. There are people out there who would say? Renton. There are people out there with good intentions, but don't have the educational talking education and the knowledge APPs Lewis is your opportunity. This task dog expo your opportunity to get that education absolutely or at least network with somebody who can mentor you? I'm looking forward to meeting people networking because I want to begin a nonprofit. I want to. Form, a dog nonprofit whose focuses education, but who has a I guess an additional side mission, a providing medical insurance and care for service dogs with for handlers who aren't able to maintain that. You know because. One of the things that hits me the hardest. Frequently more frequently lately. Is Disabled People with service dogs, task train service dogs. Who didn't plan for the fact that their dogs don't live as long as they do. And that's not fun reality, but guess what service dogs don't live as long as people. Service dogs. Aren't there for our life. They're there for their life and their life is shorter. In. We don't think about that when our focuses our health and our recovery. So. One of the directions that pt dog is going and doing and part of what I'm doing through my woodworking business I'm actually. Donating hand turned earns to disabled PEOP- handlers who've lost their dog and want something nice to put the dogs remains in. That's the I can't give people a lot of money I don't have cable. D-? Don't have a lot of money, but you know what I can do I can make a nice final resting place for your dog. Okay. But if we can get the PTA stalled. Nonprofit off the ground, we can help coordinate discounted insurance pet insurance. And we can help you know. We can have an emergency fund which will call the Angel Fund named after. One of the the service dogs in the book piteous dog. We're GONNA caught the Angel Fund for emergencies where. My dog swallowed Iraq. It, it caused the blockage. She needs fifteen hundred dollar surgery to get the rock out of her stomach. If you don't have pet insurance and you don't have fifteen hundred dollars. You Service dog dies. Why? Why when the we can help, fulfill that need these kinds of with these are the kind of things as that nonprofit community needs to be focusing on when it comes to service DOTS. We can build that through networking education. Just conversations at task dogs. So Stephen Again. Thank you so much because you're creating a forum. That does not exist. You've given us the place to come. The police reach out the place to build networks. The place to learn as John said. The place to learn from one another through each other's experience. Phyllis in Philipson wants against. Even when is tasked? Dogs wears task. Dogs talk about the facebook page where we can find information in who to contact if you want to donate. Be. will be. The Second Annual Event September twenty six this year ten am to four PM. It's at the event. Center Gateway Hall there to halls, and it's the smaller one of the to till next year the big one. Gateway Hall Jim Gray Summit Missouri just outside of Saint Louis about a forty five minute drive from downtown. Aso at St Louis and come out to the event. you from out of town. I mean you can go visit St Louis Arch or something like that. Yeah. Anyway. FACEBOOK page. FACEBOOK page is called. Test dogs a service dog expo. Put it in any search search blank confidence book and will pop up. There's a link from. There's a link from it to events and shows the one for this year one for next year and Some of the people who clicked on air going may not actually make it, but anyway well WH-. Real hard to make sure that that's populated that there's many people talk to and I am going to look I'm going to say something that I don't say. But. All of you, folks who are not disabled who don't handle a service dog. Who just absolutely can't resist an have got to pet dog. Guess what? If you just have to interact and you just after pet the dog. This probably the place to come to meet an incredible variety of tasks, train service dogs, and get the opportunity to rub their ears and pet him and tell them how amazing they are. You! Know what get it out of your system so that you can be respected. We're out shopping in the stores. Come to task dogs and better dogs gators going to be there. GATORS, the world busier scratched. Let me tell you yeager is going to be there. You get to be there Man We gotta get. You Scout Out, there skaff, you should come. Maybe To see how much fuel I got a bike. That's what I'm talking about. Said you twenty bucks that'll feel to take. A. Well John Stephen. Nares offer out one last thing I was gonNA. Say is. We're not just A. Localized of it yet I mean it. I have a organization I gotta find some things with at the women's in Pennsylvania the attendance of that. You know she contacted me the other day said Hey could. You cannot come to this event, yeah? You know it's So I'm working with a woman in Colorado who? Makes? High End. Dog Harnesses to really well no name. I won't mention it now, but. you know we got Wisconsin. Michigan. Iowa. People from different parts of the country in North Carolina you both Yup and then Pennsylvania Connecticut, so it's getting a drawl. How? Young people I guess. I'm learning as I go man on. The reason you're getting people is because there is a need for this keeping. Exactly. There is no saw the knee I did A. Plan if I did a search. I did a search trying to find a a service dog event like this and I didn't come up with. Is Not one yeah. I saw some that were exposed for mobility and electrical equipment. You know you can bring your dog to that and that kind of thing but. I don't know of anything that was like this for this specific reason so. Thank you Steven so much for creating tasks. Thank you for in spite of all the nonsense. It's going on with virus, nuts, shutdowns and everything you have stuck it out and said we are going to have respectable this year. No matter what. And thanks for sticking to your guns. I don't care. To September I'm still excited about coming in still excited about the opportunity to speak so excited about the opportunity to share the books for skier For people to beat Skater you know it's. This is something that needs to happen. In you you, you did it? You made it, so it's. One! There's one thing that I didn't mention. Is going into this. I was I had a videographer. That's going to hire. And it'd be just sort of two thousand dollars, and I was GONNA try to raise money between now and June to do that, but everything got moved and everything and I still WanNa hire this person because he will be able to put together. Little ads. Right I could use throughout the year to promote the one for next year I'm already thinking about next year's event. Not this absolutely does want to take care of itself, but I've got to find some way to come up with a way to pay him as still have come out and do this video from me, so we have it because he would do a mentioned before if you were able to do some broadcast or some audio. You could also work with him and hopefully he would be able to. Video much of the speaking times. You know like if you know on Hajj. You were there I would I would want that record. Rile so it could be redistributed later you know, but anyway that's all well and yeah I might tension I will also probably drag along equipment and represent Devi radio during the event so that we may be able to live broadcast speaking some of the speeches. That's that's also part of the intention is that if you can't attend, you can see so listen folks go to the task. Dogs facebook page. If you want to support this WANNA, make donations. You WanNa make sure that we can make this event. As. Effective as possible as reaching people in educating, go to the task. Dogs Twenty, twenty, a service dog expo facebook page. Go check it out. Just, businesses look sponsor. Get Your name on the banner sponsored sponsor. The service dog show to be their sponsor PCs. Dog To be there sponsored Devi radio to be their sponsor Jaeger Foundation to be there SPA brainier employs. Some. Seth, yeah, jump in help out. 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