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How the Dulles Brothers Created the CIA

Behind the Bastards

01:47 min | 4 months ago

How the Dulles Brothers Created the CIA

"It is a guy. We're gonna be talking about a lot today. We're talking about the dillas brothers part to we'll be covering their time in the war which involved a lot of the nazis. I'm robert efforts this. Is you know buying the bastards. You know that this is the second episode on the series and my guest is again. Jason target jason. Terry do it. Do some people start with part two of a series like this. Do we have to catch them. Catch them up with if they are jason their maniacs and i feel no need to pander to them. There's a question. I did want to ask though because when you left off the two brothers and again just because it's been a weaker whatever you've got the elder brother foster dulles who is not yet going. He's going to be secretary of state later. You've got younger allen. Who was later going to take over the cia right now. They're not doing that right now. They are helping to basically negotiate the postwar post world war one peace with germany correct. Yes and the terms of that that will wind up the terms of the peace of world. War one set the stage for everything that comes after right up until today yes so. How old are these brothers. When that is occurring They're not very old. No i mean like twenty. Okay like like alan well. Yeah in their in their their so fosters. Older foster starts College well no. He starts high school in nineteen o four so he's graduated by nineteen. Oh wait world war one starts when he's in his early twenties he's in his late twenties and alan is in his early twenty s. I think

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"foster dulles" Discussed on AM 970 The Answer

AM 970 The Answer

06:33 min | 10 months ago

"foster dulles" Discussed on AM 970 The Answer

"Results will be in so that Z 22 days and that started today. The vaccines from thighs are rolling out right now they're on trucks heading to, uh, frontline health care workers and first responders and others right now. We're talking about whether or not you will take them. The Texas lawsuit was kicked by the Supreme Court and the Electoral College cast their votes today, those of the four big stories and we have got a couple of questions for you. We want you to answer it 805 to 01234. That's 805 to 01234 get online and we will get you on the air now. Have all of the above is cast aside. Of course, I'm talking about Supreme Court. Texas, etcetera, etcetera. If Joe Biden is to become the next president of the United States, if he wants officially becomes quote unquote president elect once the electors make the decision. We have a question. What kind of a Biden administration? Are we going to see what kind of a Harris administration might we see? Well, tell me, Troy wrote a really interesting piece that I wrote in politico about that is Joe Biden setting himself up and his administration up for failure by creating a conflict in some of the most important positions in the White House. Heavy Troy joins us Now he is the presidential historian, former White House aide. He's got a book out. Which is incredible. It talks about the story we're about to talk about right now. The book is called Fight House rivalries in the White House from Truman to Trump heavy Choi joins us now in the Hugh Hewitt show. To be good to talk to you. How are you this morning? I'm great, Bob. Thanks for having me on really appreciated. What a great article you wrote. I mean, the comparison that you made between the John Kerry Tony Blinken potential relationship here in the Secretary of State's office, with John Kerry being kind of You know, positioned as potentially being more powerful with Cabinet level powers than blinking as secretary of state. The comparison to the Eisenhower administration is simply remarkable. I'm gonna let you kind of give us the thumbnail sketch of that number follow up. I'd be happy to look, I saw this carry Blake in relationships that they're talking about. And it just struck me that this is something I talk about. In my book Fight house that you had in the 19 fifties. Eisenhower wasn't happy with Direction of disarmament policy, which is kind of like, I guess maybe the climate policy of the day and it was the number one issue in the Republican Party. Just like climate is a big issue in the Democrat Party, and he Eisenhower. Said. Well, John Foster Dulles Secret State Not working fast enough. Let me bring in Harold Stassen. Who many of us No no as this guy who ran for president too many times, But at the time, Harold Saxon was this young up and coming guy. Who had just been governor of Minnesota is very talented, and he said, Let's bring this guy and make him the lead negotiator on climate give him Cabinet rank and The New York Times loved this, and they called him. The secretary for Peace, which really irked Foster Dulles, who said What does that make me the Secretary for war? So these guys were poised to fight from minute one. And it sounded very similar to weigh that carried Lincoln's relationship set up today. Yeah, now And as you point out in the article, this did not end well, really for either guy, But, you know, in the end, Dulles, you know, ends up prevailing. Tell us, you know, by the way you mistaking likes that climate because it is a great analogy. You said climate when you meant to say disarmament. In this particular case, But it is a great analogy or John Kerry is being given the I don't know what would we call them the secretary for for climate, climate change or climate regulation or whatever. And what does that mean? If he is unable to refuse, empowered rather to negotiate with foreign countries as it pertains to Paris climate accords, etcetera, etcetera, does he have to get clearance from Lincoln? Who is the actual secretary of state, or is he going to be off on his own? Yeah, that's that's a great question. And then the flip side is interesting question, too, because Carrie is a former secretary of state is going to be sitting on the National Security Council. And what if issues come up related to the Middle East or Russia or China? Policy? Isn't Carrie gonna be weighing in and will people be looking to him is the former secretary of state so That it could create tensions. Both on the climate front is, Blinken said, Hey, why don't I get way out of the secretary state? And then on the other issues, Carrie might feel like he wants to weigh in on everything. You know, it's it's kind of interesting is you make this great comparison in the article, which again comes from your book about Stassen handing in his resignation, and essentially, you know, Dulles, one that power struggle If you will, you know, Stassen was the new and up and comer. And in this case, the guy who's been handed a cabinet level position or a position that isn't Cabinet level but being given Cabinet powers Is the old guard is there as you say, the former secretary of state who's already got relationships and in fact, some people may accuse him of violating the Logan Act, which you know sometimes gets kicked around now because he has continued to the O to carry on relations with a lot of other foreign leaders. But this is John care. He's the He's the old dog here and use you point out in your article. He's got an ego that is outside even for Washington, D. C. Can you see him taking any orders whatsoever from somebody like blanket? I think it's gonna be hard and then I do point out the issue. That ego is a huge part of this, and Carrie was often voted the most egotistical senator, so I think it's going to be hard for him to step back on the on the other side. Let me say that everybody does say that Blinking is a nice guy, which could be a good thing meaning and nice guys left after getting the sites or it could be a bad thing. That in my book and fight house, I find that sometimes the nice guys in the White House fights get stepped on and don't stand up in themselves. And that leaves detention as well. Tell us this heavy, Troy. Why blinking Because you know very nice guys You're talking about not extraordinarily experienced in this certainly not as much as a former secretary himself like John Kerry. Why? Tony Blinken. Why is that a comfort level or comfort zone if you will for Joe Biden. Well, First of all, he's very smart and every day since he's very smart and has worked in foreign policy issues a lot. He just hasn't been a principal is they called the top dogs in Washington, and he has been very loyal to Biden and binds loyal to him, and I think we're seeing that. For the most part buying is trying to pick people that he's comfortable with and has been have been around him A long time. The work left is saying, No, we don't want that. We want the more mochi types. And so I think that's another inherent tension in the administration. But it seems like for some of the top jobs like Chief of staff and secretary of state he's picked. Biden has picked people who have been around him for a long time. So what? Why is he setting himself up to have this potential clash? Then? Who is he? Where do you think you know? In the research for your book? I don't know if you had a chance to dig into this with him. But is he aware of this similarity that you draw here? The parallel between this and the Eisenhower administration? Well, obviously, I've never discussed it with him..

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"foster dulles" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

06:38 min | 1 year ago

"foster dulles" Discussed on KQED Radio

"Spot dot com Grow better. This is fresh air and were speaking with veteran war correspondent Scott Anderson. He has a new book about the early years of the CIA from the end of World War two through the Mid 19 fifties, when the agency was a key instrument of policy in the Cold War with Soviet Union. Anderson's book is the quiet Americans. Historians hate to be asked to play what if, but but let's just do this for a second. You know, you look at when Stalin dies. When was that about 1953? Right? Khrushchev comes to power. He talks about peaceful coexistence. At one point, I think he says, you know. Well, if you guys were forming NATO is mutual defence. Maybe we should join NATO. Ah, you know, he does. Once the Hungarian rebellion occurs, there's a moment where he seems to Relent and say, Okay, you can have the reformist prime minister. I'll pull Soviet troops out of the country will have sort of a common wealth rather than this Soviet client states. And throughout all of these steps, the U. S. Policymakers, led by Secretary of State John Foster Dulles have no interest in courting a friendship with the Soviet Union or encouraging some of these steps. Had they taken a different approach. Would history be different? I think it would be. I think it would be radically different. I often think that that and I think you hit it on the nose that that moment. Ah, in this. Why? Why? My book? Have ends with Hungarian revolution because I think that was the absolute key moment when this cold war could have started to end right there. The Soviet pole bureau at Khrushchev's insistence on October 31st 1956 decided they were pulling out of Hungary and, as you said that they were going to change the relationship of all the eastern European countries with the Soviet Union to being this loose confederation. The next day, November 1st 1956 over the course that night, Khrushchev had a complete change of heart and he goes back to the Politburo the next day and says, Look, if the Americans were going to do anything, they would have done it by now. And if we lose, Hungary were going to lose all the others. This is this is going to become a cascade. So on that day cruise ship and the Polo Bureau completely changed course, and they ordered the tanks back into into Hungary. And of course, this was after three years of there being a number of overtures by the Soviets towards the West for a rapprochement. And being rebuffed every time and what you see after Hungary is the Christians who really had been very much a reformer for the previous three years, he was the one who led the desalinization policy. He becomes more and more of a hard liner to the point that he precipitates the October missile crisis in 1962, But that was absolutely one of those great historical what, if moments if the Americans had played things differently with Hungary? The CIA was, of course, active in other parts of the world. I mean, not just Europe. Quickly the developing world where you know you had a lot of countries that had been European colonies for decades, and we're looking to strike out on independent course in general, what was U. S policy in the third world at a time when they feared Soviet in, you know, ambitions everywhere. Right initially after the underworld war to there was this idea that it was FDR is idea of that We will be a force for fostering democracy in the developing world. That went very quickly by the way side by just the onslaught of events. I think that was really ultimately discarded completely by the time of the Korean War in 1950. Now the United States saw the world as we need to defend what we have. We're not gonna be a force for change. We're going. It's gonna be this defensive policy of protecting people against the spread of communism. So If that means propping up our cozying up to military Dictatorships around the world or despot's than so be it on DH. What you also saw happening at the same time Wass and again as a result of large is of Korea. Was now the United States all of a sudden is supporting the French and the British in maintaining their colonial outposts throughout the world, especially in Asia. So the United States under FDR that had been demanding the French leave their possessions and into China, Vietnam now in 1950 for the Americans were actually bankrolling the French to stay on in in Vietnam. So there was. This is this is just a complete turnaround in this in this very short span of time, Right? And then there were cases where governments would come to power in some cases through democratic elections and Pursue courses that were regarded as dangerous, You know, expropriating foreign investments, etcetera. You want to give a couple examples off ways in which the CIA dealt quickly and effectively with those Yeah, And I think this is the next stage on and you see this When Eisenhower comes to power, a cz John Foster Dulles is secretary of state Now, now we're not just propping up Dictatorships were creating on the two places that happened early in his administration was in Iran in 1953 and then Guatemala the following year. Both democracies, but they both had functioning working parliaments, and the irony is that neither of them had really had any sort of relations with the Soviet Union. But as you said industrial powers in Iran's case, the oil companies and in Guatemala either United fruit Company that ran Guatemala is essentially a plantation. They began fomenting that these leftist leaders are going to, you know they're going to take their countries into the Soviet orbit, and we've got to get rid of them. So Under orders from on high the CIA over three. Both of those governments the the most big regime in Iran and Arbenz regime in Guatemala, you've covered a lot of conflict zones and the parts of the book of the United States. In some cases, you know, cynically supporting right wing Dictatorships, you know is not exactly news. People have talked about this before. I will say that. The stories that you tell in Europe where the United States the CIA is pursuing these really foolhardy missions against Eastern European.

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"foster dulles" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

06:58 min | 1 year ago

"foster dulles" Discussed on KQED Radio

"In for Terry Gross. We're speaking with Scott Anderson. He's a veteran war correspondent who's written two novels and for nonfiction books. His latest looks at the early years of the CIA from the end of World War two through the mid 1950. He says It was a time when American goodwill in the post colonial world was squandered by ill advised covert operations, some of which toppled democratically elected governments in the developing world. His book is called the Quiet Americans. You know, in 1952 in Dwight Eisenhower is elected president. He appoints as secretary of state John Foster dollars, who is the brother of Alan Dollars who headed the CIA? Both were corporate lawyers in their civilian lives. Describe the approach that the secretary of state John Foster Dulles, brought to the challenge of dealing with the Soviet Union. Dulles is just a remarkable figure. And from my vantage point probably did more damage to American standing in the world, then Almost anyone I can think of. In the 20th century John Foster Dulles had this everything was black and white and around the world. You were either with United States or you're with the Soviets. Allowing no countries to be neutral. Essentially, if you were if you were neutral than you were with the other side, but he also had this very bizarre view of the Soviet Union that was simultaneously A power that was trying to take over the world by any means possible, but at the same time about to disintegrate about to fall apart, which, to my mind seems almost comes mutually opposing ideas, but John faster, You'll saw everything through that prism. So any overture From the Soviets was a trick. It was either a trick to enhance your ability to take over or it was a sign of their internal weakness. So if they after someone died The new leaders of Soviet Union expresses interest of peaceful coexistence. They came up with the various peaceful coexistence and extended an olive branch to the west, one that the British and the French wanted to work with. Does shot it down, saying that you know this. It's a trick and it proves how weak they are. Why? Why accept half a loaf when we when we're just about to get the whole thing, so there's very schizophrenic. Foreign policy within the Eisenhower administration, and Eisenhower seemed to really hand over most of the heavy thinking the heavy lifting of Soviet policy. Off to Dulles. And we should note that as the fifties progress, you know the strategic situation changes because United States loses its monopoly on nuclear weapons. And there's the possibility increasingly of a nuclear war, which no one wants. So it makes these you know, kind of brush fire encounters or covert operations kind of A central front and so Della's. His perspective was, we have to maintain maximum pressure on the Soviet Union to hasten its disintegration and don't take any peaceful overtures seriously. One of the things that was fascinating about these covert operations, which Michael Burke, one of the people you write about supervised, sending hundreds of people over and small groups into The Soviet dominated states, mostly to be captured and caught immediately was If if they were actually successful in building a cell of resistance and creating an armed revolt in one of these countries, Poland Czechoslovakia What? What would the United States do? I mean, that's you know, would it lead to military assistance from the West? It's it's. It's absolutely astonishing about that very question seems to have been one that the Eisenhower administration in general and John Foster Dulles and proceed. I never really thought thought through. They stayed with this rhetoric of roll back. We're going to roll back calm is we're going to liberate the so called captive nations of Eastern Europe. So they continued. The infiltration operations all around the world was this idea of, you know, keep pushing against the Soviets, but without really any thought of exactly as you said, how much the world had changed, and it's It's interesting. When Eisenhower came in, he enacted this. This policy called the new Look Policy. And it was this idea that the Americans reserve the right Love to take massive retaliation against Soviet aggression. That being a euphemism for a nuclear first strike and what no one seemed to Khun think through. With the with the new look policy is that what that then did was that locked into place? The dividing line in Europe Because now Western Europe was in In the vital interests of the United States. If the Soviets tried to do something there, it would. It would hasten a nuclear war but the same thing in reverse in Eastern Europe and it really wasn't until You finally had an anti Communist uprising in the east in Eastern Europe in Hungary, in 1956 that the built in contradiction of the new look policy, all of a sudden, you see, it's utterly unworkable. You know, there was a case in in Berlin, where on the the Soviet controlled side of it. There was a strike, which turned into a massive street demonstrations and people were looking for the United States. To act in some way, provide weapons provide strong statements of support. Nothing much happened there and then in 1956. This is a remarkable thing that some will remember. But demonstrations in Hungary kind of progressed into a full on revolt in which The police in some cases turned weapons over to the demonstrators, and they took on. Soviet units in Budapest and and killed a lot of Russians soldiers. This created an enormous crisis described what happened and how the United States reacted. When the great irony of the Hungarian revolution is that you know, after a decade of the CIA trying to foment anti communist uprisings in eastern Europe here, one came and it was spontaneous was not CIA sponsored. The CIA had no idea it was coming, and in fact, it would have been very hard to predict because it really did have this quality of spontaneous combustion. At the same time, there was a precursor that there had been a big liberalisation move that it happened in Poland just the month before, And this is in the early days of Khrushchev, and he is he's clearly trying to liberalize both in the Soviet Union and in the satellite nations of Eastern Europe. So when the hungering revolution blows up literally happened overnight..

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"foster dulles" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

WNYC 93.9 FM

08:05 min | 1 year ago

"foster dulles" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

"Experience. More at hub spot dot com grow better. This is fresh air and were speaking with veteran war correspondent Scott Anderson. He has a new book about the early years of the CIA from the end of World War two through the Mid 19 fifties, when the agency was a key instrument of policy in the Cold War with the Soviet Union. Anderson's book is the quiet Americans. Historians hate to be asked to play what if, but but let's just do this for a second. You know, you look at when Stalin dies. One was at about 1953, right? Yes, Khrushchev comes to power. He talks about peaceful coexistence. At one point, I think he says, you know. Well, if you guys were forming NATO is mutual defence. Maybe we should join NATO. You know, he does. Once the Hungarian rebellion occurs, there's a moment where he seems to Relent and say, Okay, you can have the reformist prime minister. I'll pull Soviet troops out of the country will have sort of a common wealth rather than this Soviet client states. And throughout all of these steps, the U. S. Policymakers, led by Secretary of State John Foster Dulles have no interest in courting ahh, friendship with the Soviet Union or encouraging some of these steps. Had they taken a different approach. Would history be different? I think it would be. I think it would be radically different. I often think that that and I think you hit it on the nose that that moment. In this. Why? Why my book ends with Hungarian revolution because I think that was the absolute key moment. When this Cold war could have started to end right there. The Soviet Pole bureau at Khrushchev's insistence on October 31st 1956 Decided they were pulling out of Hungary and as you said that they were going to change the relationship of all the eastern European countries with the Soviet Union to being this loose confederation The next day, November 1st 1956 over the course that night, Khrushchev had a complete change of heart and he goes back to the Politburo the next day and says, Look, if the Americans were going to do anything, they would have done it by now. And if we lose, Hungary were going to lose all the others. This is this is going to become a cascade. So on that day, Khrushchev and the Poulet bureau completely changed course, and they ordered the tanks back into into Hungary. Um, And of course, this was after you know, three years of there being a number of overtures by the Soviets towards the West for a rapprochement. And being rebuffed every time and what you see after Hungary is the Christians who really had been very much a reformer for the previous three years, he was the one who led the desalinization policy. He becomes more and more of a hard liner to the point that he precipitates the October missile crisis in 1962, But that was absolutely one of those great historical what, if moments if the Americans had played things differently with Hungary? The CIA was, of course, active in other parts of the world. I mean, not just Europe. Quickly in the developing world where you know you had a lot of countries that had been European colonies for decades, and we're looking to strike out on independent course in general, what was U. S policy in the third world at a time when they feared Soviet in, you know, ambitions everywhere. Right initially after the underworld war to there was this idea that it was FDR is idea of that We will be a force for fostering democracy in the developing world. That went very quickly by the way side by just the onslaught of events. I think that was really ultimately discarded completely by the time of the Korean War in 1950. Now the United States saw the world as we need to defend what we have. We're not gonna be a force for change. We're going. It's gonna be this defensive policy of protecting people against Spread of communism. So if that means propping up or cozying up to military Dictatorships around the world or despot's, then so be it on DH. What you also saw happening at the same time was and again as a result of largest of Korea. Was now the United States. All of a sudden is supporting the French and British in maintaining their colonial outposts throughout the world, especially in Asia. So the United States under FDR that had been demanding the French leave their possessions in Indochina. In Vietnam now in 1950 for the Americans were actually bankrolling the French to stay on in Vietnam. So there was this is this is just a complete turnaround in this in this very short spent a time right? Then there were cases where governments would come to power in some cases through democratic elections and pursue courses that were regarded as dangerous, you know, expropriating foreign investments, etcetera. You want to give a couple examples off ways in which the CIA dealt quickly and effectively with those? Yeah, And I think this is the next stage on and you see this when Eisenhower comes to power, and as John Foster Dulles is secretary of state Now. Now we're not just propping up Dictatorships were creating on the two places that happened early in his administration was in Iran in 1953 and then Guatemala the following year. Both democracies, but they both had functioning working parliaments, and the irony is that neither of them had really had any sort of relations with the Soviet Union. But as you said industrial powers in Iran's case, the oil companies and in Guatemala, the either United fruit company that ran Guatemala is essentially a plantation. Days began fomenting that these leftist leaders are going to you know they're going to take their countries into the Soviet orbit, and we've got to get rid of them. So Under orders from on high the CIA over three. Both of those governments that the most today regime in Iran and the Arbenz regime in Guatemala, you've covered a lot of conflict zones and the parts of the book of the United States. In some cases, you know, cynically supporting right wing Dictatorships, you know is not exactly news. People have talked about this before. I will say that. The stories that you tell in Europe where the United States the CIA is pursuing these really foolhardy missions against Eastern European states, which get You know, sincerely intended. Patriots killed time and time and time again, but speak Kind of a lack of clear thinking. A lack of strategy. This this improvisational approach, which is really reckless. Do you think that's changed? Or were you surprised by it? You know, I wasn't surprised by it. I think what happened Wass. One thing I was not aware of until really started t look at this whole period, you know, almost on a day by day account. The barrage of events that were happening constantly. And you know you talk about foreign crises today, and so there's you can't compare to what was happening in the 19 forties 19 fifties. I have this line in the book in one month in 1950. The U. N launched its counter offensive into Korea that pushed the communist back in North Korea. Same month Communist China invaded Tibet. A French garrison of 6000 soldiers in into China was wiped out by, you know, coming story. Ullas and the Polish government arrested 5000 dissidents in 24 hours Dragnet, and I was in one month, so I think these guys were just getting pummeled by so many things happening so quickly. That they just went into this reactive mode of we have to try something. And even if it doesn't work, we don't have the luxury of time to sit back and and think out, thoughtful.

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"foster dulles" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

04:22 min | 2 years ago

"foster dulles" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

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KGO 810

16:17 min | 2 years ago

"foster dulles" Discussed on KGO 810

"Establish arms must be might be ready for instant action, so that no can tell aggressor may be tempted to Rick his own destruction. And of course, the voice of white David Eisenhower. I'm delighted of I mean, really delighted to welcome Peter Schinkel, dilly program is the author of a new book, I mystery man, the secret lives wives of Robert Cutler, Robert Cutler was the first national security advisor to a president of the United States of America. White d is our. He was also gay. And this book is one of the most fascinating reads, the story of Robert Cutler is absolutely astounding, and we're going to talk with him about this, and I've got so many questions for you, Peter, but first, let me just set it up. Robert Cutler was an American government official the first person appointed as a national security advisor to the president of the United States. He served white Eisenhower in that role between nineteen fifty three and fifty five and then again from fifty seven to fifty eight. Interestingly enough. This man became Eisenhower's eyes, and ears on the world. And his nephew, is great nephew discovered a secret, so Peter, I hope I've set it up for you. Peter Schinkel is with us. Peter, tell us how you discovered about your great uncle. Well, it was during a family vacation. Many years ago about thirteen years ago. Now back in two thousand six I was in Rhode Island with my mother and my aunt and the subject of their ankle. Robert Cutler came up. And my aunt said, well, he was gay, of course. And I said, of course, so it was not, of course at all, but among the family and my mother's generation, they all knew and they all understood this to be true. But it was not widely talked about art and let me ask you the question, because he is also the author of a an executive order that had a huge impact on this question of whether or not well, who should be hired for public office describe that memo. Sure, what you're talking about is the executive order one zero four five zero 'cause I signed by President Eisenhower, in April of nineteen fifty three so about three months after he took office, and that, of course, in that era under the influence of Herbert Jagger, Hoover and Joseph McCarthy and others. There was a lot of turmoil surrounding allegations that there were homosexuals and communists in the federal government. And so during the campaign, nineteen fifty two President Eisenhower had won the support of Senator McCarthy, it's often forgotten that I actually campaigned with McCarthy and built. A tentative alliance with him now. I oppose McCarthy's methods, but he needed his votes to win that election. He needed what would today called McCarthy's base. So he joined forces McCarthy and after he took office and won the election and took office. I felt he had return a favor. And, and he, he himself believed that it was important to get what he considered to be subversives out of the US government. Well, there had been drafted under president Truman a an order that was to tighten security federal employees, because this is something that president Truman, also had agreed need to be done, but Truman never adopted instead left it in draft form. So when I took office in January, fifty three Bobby Cutler had learned about. This draft. And he brought it to ice attention and recommended it and I call this a the a peculiar ban on homosexuals because there was virtually no discussion of why this needed to be done. And there was the, the order itself refers to homosexual homosexual homosexuality as sexual perversion, but it doesn't define it in any manner. And Furthermore, we have no statements from the president at the time as to why it was necessary. But in some. Robert Cutler's recommendation and after some process, it was put into place and it set the stage for a ban on homosexuals in the federal government reportedly, as many as ten thousand were driven out of the federal government, some committed suicide of many had their lives thrown into utter disarray. It was a it was a terrible time and your great uncle. What's point out was gay? I would just want to let everybody know it's executive order one, oh, four five oh. Signed on April twenty-seventh nineteen hundred and fifty three we should also point out that you're right. Uncle on March thirty first nineteen fifty-five received the medal of freedom for his outstanding contribution to the security, and defence of our nation. I want you to describe his role with Eisenhower as national security adviser, and how they linked. Yup. Sure. Well, they, they I got to know each other at the end of the world. Segue war about which Bobby color finished with the rank of Brigadier General, and Bobby soon, joined with his friend from Boston Senator Henry Cabot lodge in a few years. I should say, let me just interrupt Henry Cabot lodge junior who was the United States Senator from Massachusetts. And in nineteen fifty two was instrumental in getting Eisenhower to run for president of the United States. As a Republican. Go ahead. Exactly. And after I was in fact, nominated and election say that Bobby color also helped him winning the nomination, I invited him to go on his campaign train as he went around the United States in the fall of nineteen fifty two. And so he developed a very strong relationship with Ike and that included working on an array of national security issues, including the, the idea of advancing or developing a little neglected or a somewhat neglected body of the federal government, the national Security Council and making it into the preeminent tool for creating national security policy in the government, I actually gave to campaign speeches during the campaign. In the fall of nineteen fifty urging the national Security Council be revamped and expanded. And and use more effectively, now, let me ask you because your great uncle was horrified by the front of a nuclear holocaust. And you know that on the biographer of herald staff, and they formed a common front, if you will, in dealing with explain to us what got Bobby Cutler, so worked up about a potential for nuclear war. Well, the first thing was that in nineteen fifty three he invited j Robert Oppenheimer the father of the nuclear bomb and director of the Los Alamos laboratory to come into the national Security Council and speak to the national security outs. So about the threat of a nuclear war by that time up in Heimer had become extremely concerned about the risks of nuclear war. Let's remind everybody in south point, the Russians the Soviet Union had a nuclear weapon, United States had a nuclear weapon, and there was a fear that these two superpowers might engage in a nuclear confrontation. Go ahead. That's right. And they were both developing nuclear arsenals at that time at a at a at a rapid pace already in nineteen fifty three and Oppenheimer was horrified by this. And he urged president, I how to adopt a policy of candor in which the president would speak more openly we as the American people and. Is an speech in one thousand nine hundred fifty three before the United Nations and your great, uncle had a big hand in that describe it. Well, he helped him develop that speech and he helped him by supporting Oppenheimer and, and urging this policy of candor, he set the stage for that speech, and ultimately, while Oppenheimer would be separated from his role in the government out of concerns that he was a communist that speech would lay the stage for a lay the groundwork for creation of the International Atomic Energy agency, and that would go on to the body that it is today, the preeminent mechanism for fighting the spread of nuclear weapons. Now, I haven't front of me the minutes of the one hundred and fifty fifth meeting of the national Security Council on Thursday, July. Sixteenth nineteen fifty three and it says, president, of course, the president of the United States, presiding the vice president. The secretary of state. John Foster Dulles Charlie Wilson, who was secretary of defense, Harold, east Asan director of mutual security, and Arthur Fleming director of the office of defense, mobilization and Robert Cutler special assistant to the president. How important was the interaction between your great uncle and Eisenhower? And how did he get along with John Foster Dulles who was secretary of state, by the way, we used to say, they'll Dolor Dulles, go ahead? Well, I you know, I had tremendous confidence in Bobby Cutler, and we're lied upon him to establish the agenda for the NFC meetings and to brief the president prior to those meetings and to ensure that everybody all the members of the NFC were given full information so that they could prepare for those meetings. So I can visioned the NFC as a place where there would be a robust conversation and all the pros and cons of proposed national security policy would be hashed out and argued out, and it wouldn't just be a cursory thing either prior to each meeting, there would be staff members Augusta gating issues, ensuring that they had the proper information necessary to fashion policy. Have to tell you the minutes of this meeting include a memorandum by the special assistant to the president, your great uncle. That is absolutely brilliant. So the national Security Council was not a rubber stamp what Eisenhower envisioned, and what your great uncle envisioned, and what you write about so eloquently in this book is the. Idea of putting everything out on the table and really arguing about of is that correct? That's right. That's right. So Cutler is, is considered the preeminent example of the national security adviser, who acts as an honest broker, which means that he gives everybody a chance to have their say, on an issue if they want to, or let me ask then okay, go ahead. The other side of that policy would be exemplified just in the next term under president Kennedy and many others subsequent, national security, advisors where they take a more advisory role, so where they recommend policy, and they advocate for it, and they're not so concerned about giving everybody a chance to have their say, and to comment and to point out to probe to pointed problems, very different than the Trump White House. I just want to ask you. A mentioned some names, I just want you to describe Bobby, Cutler's relationship with them. I white Eisenhower. Close friend, a tremendous, Bobby. I guess this hero John's. He go ahead. John Foster Dulles, who was secretary of state and a very powerful figure. I think Bobby spectral relationship with John Foster Dulles, he nonetheless by nine hundred fifty seven became extremely concerned that he was failing to, to conduct his affairs conduct the national affairs properly with the Soviets would are the risk of war of war. Breaking out my old boss. Harold stassen. I think my impression is that Bobby respected herald staff, and as a, a truly committed civil servant, a person who wanted to do the right thing, and a very smart man. Richard nixon. Good question. There's lots of little chitchat and postcards between Bobby color and Richard Nixon. But I think that, you know, Bobby seem to go gone quickly toward wreck investigating that. The idea of -ike dumping dick Nixon during the nineteen fifty two campaigns d-6. Oh, fifty two in the dump Nixon, that was an fifty six fifty two. It was the checkers scandal. Aware was accused of corruption. Right. Right. And you're thinking of fifty six when it rose again, governor staff, considered that as a decade, but I'm seeking fifty two. I think that color kind of held Nixon at an arm's length but he worked with him. Nonetheless, four one five, eight zero eight zero eight ten I already have people calling, we have a lot to talk about. And I want to remind you that, Peter Schinkel will be at the Commonwealth club on may twenty third at twelve noon. That's at one ten embarked Darrow. Tickets are still available. You can either go to the common wealth club dot org. Or you can call four one five five nine seven six seven zero five..

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"foster dulles" Discussed on Intercepted with Jeremy Scahill

Intercepted with Jeremy Scahill

04:53 min | 3 years ago

"foster dulles" Discussed on Intercepted with Jeremy Scahill

"Know about him is that when he was a member of the skull and bones society at Yale. He snuck onto the beef creek. Apache prisoner of war cemetery in nineteen eighteen and he was there to desecrate the grave of the indigenous leader and warrior Geronimo. But also he was very close to Nazism and the Nazi ideology and figures who would go on to take over Germany under the reign of Adolf Hitler during the nineteen thirties. His firm was doing a lot of funding for a Thyssen, which is as large conglomerate in Germany, that's also involved in the steel and coal industry there. And of course, what is the rearmament programme depending on right? It's depending on all all this metal and steel for building the tanks, building the planes ships. We present these pictures of geminis new army in a Ray near them. Beg. Because it's important that the public should have an opportunity of gauging the extent of German rearmament. Yes, Germany rearmed is again, a big miniature effect time the web, and while there was nothing technically illegal at least under US law. Of course, Hitler is is secretly arming and in violation to the armistice treaty and the league of nations he continues this even after the US formally enters World War Two into nineteen forty two. And finally the US treasury seizes some of his assets. And that's worth thinking about that Prescott. Bush is arming the Nazis into nineteen forty two a former Nazi war crime. Prosecutors said that Prescott Bush should have been prosecuted for aiding and abetting the enemy and about a decade ago to former slave labors at Auschwitz unsuccessfully tried to sue the Bush family. Early because they're slave labor was benefiting ultimately the Bush family because they were working for the Tyson corporation benefiting from the death camp labor and then in turn Prescott Bush did now ruin you. You mentioned George H W Bush starting his life in the shadows working with the CIA in the nineteen fifties. But of course, you know, in all of the eulogies it's mentioned that he was a former CIA director, but he was only director of the Central Intelligence Agency for less than a year over the course of nineteen seventy six to nineteen seventy seven take us back to the beginning of the relationship between George H W Bush and the CIA and what we know about it. So George Bush joined skull-and-bone society, this is considered a fertile recruitment ground these secret societies for the CIA, you know, it's a club quote unquote at Yale at that point going to an Ivy league institution like that. It's. Exclusively young wealthy. White men. There were quotas on Jews at this time. And of course, virtually no blacks Latinos or people of other races. So in the nineteen fifties out of college. The Bush family was actually a very close to the Dulles family and Allen Dulles John Foster Dulles a really key architects of the Cold War under Dwight D Eisenhower Allen Dulles is at the head of the CIA time ran the United States government fields had the developments in another gum is of a nature to imperil to these safety and the security and the peace of the world and ask the Central Intelligence Agency to be agent in that particular situation. So George Bush senior ends up going into the oil business. He starts his company called the pot corporation after college, I returned to death and Midland. Where in the framework of the free enterprise system. I help to Bill too strong businesses in the oil industry in the late nineteen fifties. They move one of their oil rigs close to Cuba. This is around the time that Castro came that power addicting, the US back dictator Batista, and the C I A, reportedly what they were doing was they were using the Sobotta offshore oil corporation to train Cuban exiles. And that they would give these list of names to George Bush to hire to work on the platform. And from this platform, they would train them and they would conduct raids on their homeland. But he's traveling all over the world. He's going to South America. He's going to visiting Gulf states. He's going to Borneo these are all producing regions. But what he's also doing?.

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"foster dulles" Discussed on MSNBC Morning Joe

MSNBC Morning Joe

04:31 min | 3 years ago

"foster dulles" Discussed on MSNBC Morning Joe

"Last few months, whether they don't realize they're on the wrong side of history on this one as they see this huge outpouring of respect for Joe McCain's courage just from Americans, as you mentioned from right around the world. And I think as the world sits at this moment and one does where American leadership is going, one does what America's role is going to be in the world, whether universal values are going to be held. Joe McCain stood for that. And I think part of the reason that you've seen this outpouring from Canada from Europe from far away as Australia, is this this fear that we are losing the United States at the moment in the sense that America is going to lead on those values and stand up for what is right, and John McCain always did that a month into Donald Trump's. Residency, Joe McCain stood up in Munich and talked about the encroaching threat of authoritarianism. He warned people against resentment to refugees and immigrants and even Muslims and spoke about the need for the kind of values that are go to through the Cold War. That is the America that the rest of the world still wants to hear from that is the America that Joe McCain right up until the end was saying is still with you. Don't give up on America. Don't give up on that America, and yet we watched the direction of this White House. And I think part of the reason you're seeing this global outpouring of concern today and an loss is is not just Joe McCain is what Joe McCain stood full. Well, what he stood for not only for this country, but also what he tried to stand for for the Republican party. The party of ABRAHAM LINCOLN. I found this quote this weekend that about what John McCain said after the Republican national convention and Donald Trump's very public fight with the confab. It is time for Donald Trump to set an example for our country in the future of the Republican party will our parties bestowed upon him the nomination it is not. It is not accompanied by unfettered license to defame those who are the best among us. Again, Jon Meacham talking about the Khan, family gold star parents, and their son who gave all for this country McCain. Put it in perspective for us if you will, when Bobby Kennedy. We just remember the fiftieth the fifty th anniversary of Bobby Kennedy's passing. And obviously he was the most significant person of his time not to be a president. It seems John McCain, like Alexander Hamilton at the beginning of the Republic again. It's hard to think of many people over the past century that had more of an impact in our public life that were that that was not a president. It's true going, be Hamilton integrate example. Daniel Webster who are ticketed vision of the American union Henry clay who patched together important compromises if ultimately flawed in the middle of the nineteenth century. Henry Cabot lodge you, you go into John Foster Dulles, detach isten. James Baker in our time is an incredibly talented public servant who who was never president there statesmen there's people who love the country you lead with. I think one of the great McCain insights, which is I fell in love with my country when I was a prisoner in someone else's. And I've always been credibly struck by that when you think of what your reaction coming out of that cell in the way, Mike, so wonderfully talked about it. The idea that you would actually fall more in love with the country who which had consigned you to this unimaginable for so many of us experience. And I think that's part of the reason for this reaction is we honor that service and all. Of us wonder, what would we do if we were shot down out of the sky over enemy territory and found ourselves in captivity without doctors with where the only entertainment was McCain wants, had steal a bible copy down some passages in order to memorize them and read the, he was the chaplain in the cell..

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"foster dulles" Discussed on Awards Chatter

Awards Chatter

04:32 min | 3 years ago

"foster dulles" Discussed on Awards Chatter

"And I imagine it was probably through the connections there that you ended up with your first show in a way getting. Actually, what happened was I. You make the rounds to try to get an agent. Finally, I got past a receptionist, and I saw an agent because you can't get a job heaven agent. So I've showed him my scrapbook full of reviews UCLA as well. Nice. Let me know when you're in something. It's catch twenty two, how how do I get in something if I don't have an agent right? And he said, well, go put on your own show and the penny dropped. I said. I went back to the rehearsal club and I called him meeting all the girls are twenty five of us. And I told what the sage it said. And I said, look, the rehearsal club is famous. Let's put on the first rehearsal club review. So we wrote it and we wrote the first act and we performed it for some ladies who subsidized the club. Rich ladies go to lunch in New York. And they gave us two hundred dollars to rent the Karl Fischer concert hall to put on our show. And we sent penny postcards to every agent producer director in town, and we said, you're always saying, let us know when we're in. Well, we're in something come see us March, whatever. It was two nights and this penny postcard is your ticket. But we were packed. That's great. Mitch, Miller came with Marlene Dietrich. It was a while? Yes, A-List home game and lots of agents stuff. And so the next day, the phones, the club were one phone was ringing off the hook and three of us got agents. So I got an agent and I got summer stock. It was slow, but then things just started happening and I did the it Solan show. Yes, I can you just share because I think it's so funny that was at the end of a week in which you've been on a few things. Right. Well, I had a coach singing coach, and he was a special material writer who is still today. Brilliant can Welsh in. We put together an act for the Blue Angel and I dish ind-. They put me on, you know, and there was a very in nightclub in New York, and then they wanted to renew my contract. I said, but you need some new material. So Ken came up with the idea of doing a song about this girl. This was at the height of the Elvis Presley craze, but key came up with the idea of doing the song about a young girl, not crazy about Elvis, but in love with John Foster Dulles, who at the time was the secretary of state. And as they used to say, he was aptly. Name. Really don't this over Cody. Never smiled fedora on his hat. So he wrote a song called, I made a fool of myself over John Foster dollars, right? And I, that was my opening number about how how never you're never, I am, you know, and the audience just screamed. Right. So they got me on the parsh-. Oh, Jack, partial up. It was Tuesday night, right in August nineteen. Fifty seven, and I sang the song and I went back to the last show, the angel and the phones were some people were upset about it. Some people were screaming with laughter, and then there was a Mr. Dulles assistant rate, and he said, Mr. Dulles didn't see it, but could you go back on the Jack partial and do it again? So part had me back on thirsty. I did it and then on Sunday at Sullivan had me do three times in the following Sunday. Right? I'm at home and I'm watching meet the press and Dulles is on and they're talking about all the things they talk about. Now, these crisis and everything. You know, finally, at the end just before they were going to sign off interviews, what's this about you? And that girl that sings at love song about, you know, what Omar I'm watching and I swear got a twinkle in his eye and he kind of smiled and he said, I make it a matter of policy never to discuss matters of the heart in public. Well, he does have a sense of humor..

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"foster dulles" Discussed on RobinLynne

RobinLynne

03:47 min | 3 years ago

"foster dulles" Discussed on RobinLynne

"Tribal artifacts from the archives of the british museum for nearly one hundred twenty years are being returned to a native american tribe the sixteen objects will go on display on a small oregon reservation after a decades long campaign by the confederated tribes of the grand ronde to bring them back from europe the intricate balls woven baskets and other pieces were collected by piscopo minister who bought them from destitute tribal members in the eighteen seventies and then sold them to a colleague that colleague then gave them to the british institution the first thing i want to say is mandate my ass because it seems as though we've been convinced at twenty six percent of the registered voters not even twenty percent of the american people twenty six percent of the registered voters former mandate orlando twenty percent voted for skippy three or four percent motive somebody else and this year that we have now declared here from shogun reagan i'm what i said about reagan minute acted like an actor hollywood liberal general franco acted like governor of california then he acted like a republican acted like somebody was gonna vote and now we act like twenty six percent of the registered voters is actually a mandate we're all actors in this i suppose what is that in the last twenty years america has changed from producer to consumer all consumers know that when the producer name still on the consumer has got today producer very inflexible at that and now we are consumers finding it difficult to understand natural resources will change your world the third world they have bought the second world and put a firm down payment on first one controlling resources will control your world this country has been surprised by the way the world of now they don't know if they won't be on a bob dylan they don't want to be diplomats continue the same policy of nuclear nightmare diplomacy john foster dulles ain't nothing but your name of airport now the idea concerns the fact that this country wants dowager they want to go back as far as they can't even if it's only five last week not to face now tomorrow face backwards and yesterday was the day of cinema heroes riding to the rescue at the last possible moment they are the man in the white had other man on the white horse all the man who always came to save america at the last moment someone always came to save america at the last moment especially movies and what america found itself having hard time facing future they look for people like john wayne john wayne available settled in a situation that we can only look come with us back those glorious days when he rose before when the cavalry came straight away and all american men today's movie producer underwritten by all has necessarily will cast the defensive line.

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"foster dulles" Discussed on Talking Politics

Talking Politics

02:01 min | 3 years ago

"foster dulles" Discussed on Talking Politics

"Now that is happened which one was will it definitely wasn't any of the khrushchev summits which ended in disaster and a lot of acrimony i mean it's a cliche to say now i think but this is very much a nixon goes to china tight moment for trump in nineteen seventy two when nixon went to china they didn't come to a lot of concrete agreements the importance of the occasion was the occasion itself nixon going to china shaking mouse hand shaking joe lies hand in nineteen fifty four john foster dulles had refused to shake joe lies hand at a summit in geneva at a multilateral summit in geneva and that really bug the chinese for a long time as it rightly would so it was the appearance of nixon going and making peace with very old enemy an enemy whom nixon had vilified himself as a politician for for well over a decade and i think that's what we see with trump and kim where nothing concrete people are complaining that they haven't agreed to anything concrete but sometimes that doesn't matter that didn't matter with reagan and gorbachev in nineteen eightyfive either it's just about establishing a relationship now who knows where this will go i mean it could end in tears in one month six months twelve months i think anyone who was predicting what's going to happen hasn't been paying attention to donald trump because he's thoroughly unpredictable whether you love them or low them a new said it was saying that in the long run in the short run china was the winner from absolutely mean it looked initially like mix pulled off some great coop some great chief but when you played out over decades the world that we live in now with china's the rising potentially in feature dominant power can be traced back to that moment absolutely it was a week that changed the world when nixon went to china for that very reason but nixon at the time he didn't get most of the short term things that he wanted he wanted china's help in ending the vietnam war that didn't happen over the long haul he wanted to contain the soviet union but he was also in barking his helen set on detente with soviet union at exactly the same time there are real questions as to the extent to which nixon needed china in order to embark on detente with the soviet union.

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"foster dulles" Discussed on RobinLynne

RobinLynne

01:49 min | 3 years ago

"foster dulles" Discussed on RobinLynne

"We're all actors in this us posed what is avenue that in the last twenty years america has changed from a producer who consume and all consumers know that when produce name tony consumer has got today we produce a very inflexible at that and now we arkansas was in finding it difficult to understand natural resources and federal would change joe world the arabs used three in third were they have lost his second world and put a firm downpayment on first one controlling your resources will control your world this country have been surprised by the way the world looks now they don't know what they want matt dillon a bob dylan they don't know if they want to be diplomats saw continue the same policy of nuclear nightmare diplomacy john foster dulles named posven airport now the idea concern is the fact that this won't nostalgia they wanna go back as far as they can't even if it's only as far as last week not to face now tomorrow but to face backwards and yesterday was the day allow cinema heroes friday to the rescue of the last possible moment seo the man in a white hat old man on the white horse old man who always came to save america the last moment someone always gained disable america at last moment especially in view and what america found itself having a hard time facing the future they looked for people like john wayne with his john wayne with no longer available they shuttle.

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"foster dulles" Discussed on VIBES-LIVE

VIBES-LIVE

01:49 min | 3 years ago

"foster dulles" Discussed on VIBES-LIVE

"We're all actors in this us posed what is avenue that in the last twenty years america has changed from a producer who consume and all consumers know that when produce name tony consumer has got today we produce a very inflexible at that and now we arkansas was in finding it difficult to understand natural resources and federal would change joe world the arabs used three in third were they have lost his second world and put a firm downpayment on first one controlling your resources will control your world this country have been surprised by the way the world looks now they don't know what they want matt dillon a bob dylan they don't know if they want to be diplomats saw continue the same policy of nuclear nightmare diplomacy john foster dulles named posven airport now the idea concern is the fact that this won't nostalgia they wanna go back as far as they can't even if it's only as far as last week not to face now tomorrow but to face backwards and yesterday was the day allow cinema heroes friday to the rescue of the last possible moment seo the man in a white hat old man on the white horse old man who always came to save america the last moment someone always gained disable america at last moment especially in view and what america found itself having a hard time facing the future they looked for people like john wayne with his john wayne with no longer available they shuttle.

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"foster dulles" Discussed on Waking Up with Sam Harris

Waking Up with Sam Harris

02:04 min | 3 years ago

"foster dulles" Discussed on Waking Up with Sam Harris

"They up too i think much bound up in the the politics of vat periods to judge dispassionate today what was done at what was done in the end to try to end the war in vietnam with some vestige of honor and credibility so i think the problem with this whole discussion is why do people make these vituperative attacks on kissinger while turning a blind eye to entirely comparable acts by multiple other administrations and i could give many many examples not only from the obama era but from the eisenhower higher from the kennedy ear why do we hear nothing of the war crimes of john foster dulles i think that's the puzzle and the only explanation that i can come to ease the a strange combination all f hatred of nixon and psalm sophal anti semitic uh hatred of kissinger leads to a doublestandard being applied there's probably another variable here which is just the perceived illegitimacy of the warned vietnam our fight against extremists islam as prosecutor by obama is not viewed by many people to be a legitimate but vietnam and the bombing of these secondary targets killing untold numbers of people in cambodia that's viewed as the on the pale if they're defenders of the warned vietnam now they they certainly are not they haven't been vocal for a very very long time so that could be one significant difference well it's not so than wise the opprobrium heaps on the administration that ended the war in vietnam annulled in the one that started it the real criminals if he wants of war criminals were the people and johnson's administration who were the ones who escalates at the culprits uh you can certainly question whether or not.

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"foster dulles" Discussed on VIBES-LIVE

VIBES-LIVE

01:53 min | 3 years ago

"foster dulles" Discussed on VIBES-LIVE

"Controlling your resources will control your world this country have been surprised by the way the world looks now they don't know if they want to be matt dillon a bob dylan they don't know if they want to be diplomats saw continue the same policy of nuclear nightmare diplomacy john foster dulles nothing but the name of an airport now the idea concern is the fact that this won't nostalgia they want to go back as far as they can't even if it's only as filed last week not to face now tomorrow but to face backwards and yesterday was the day about cinema heroes adding to the rescue of the last possible moment failed a man in a white hat old man on the white horse old man who always came to save america at the last moment someone always came to save america at last moment especially it'd be and when america found itself having a hotter facing the future they looked for people like john wayne since john wayne with no longer available they settled ronald reagan and it is placed us in a situation that we can only look at like upheaval couple of of those in glorious days when you weren't before fails when the cavalry came straight away an allamerican hemingway days one has movie the producer underwritten by all the million as necessary will be catholic the defensive line director woody excellent voting ralph radically declared himself in control and in charge of the fixing old.

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"foster dulles" Discussed on RobinLynne

RobinLynne

01:53 min | 3 years ago

"foster dulles" Discussed on RobinLynne

"Controlling your resources will control your world this country have been surprised by the way the world looks now they don't know if they want to be matt dillon a bob dylan they don't know if they want to be diplomats saw continue the same policy of nuclear nightmare diplomacy john foster dulles nothing but the name of an airport now the idea concern is the fact that this won't nostalgia they want to go back as far as they can't even if it's only as filed last week not to face now tomorrow but to face backwards and yesterday was the day about cinema heroes adding to the rescue of the last possible moment failed a man in a white hat old man on the white horse old man who always came to save america at the last moment someone always came to save america at last moment especially it'd be and when america found itself having a hotter facing the future they looked for people like john wayne since john wayne with no longer available they settled ronald reagan and it is placed us in a situation that we can only look at like upheaval couple of of those in glorious days when you weren't before fails when the cavalry came straight away an allamerican hemingway days one has movie the producer underwritten by all the million as necessary will be catholic the defensive line director woody excellent voting ralph radically declared himself in control and in charge of the fixing old.

bob dylan america john wayne ronald reagan ralph matt dillon john foster dulles allamerican hemingway producer director woody
"foster dulles" Discussed on Here & Now

Here & Now

02:02 min | 3 years ago

"foster dulles" Discussed on Here & Now

"To use the games for pro propaganda north korea's trying to hijack the olympics all this is a charade but these things don't need to be said because if you say these things you come across as the grinch as the grumpy aggressor and that is not good pr vice president pence should be careful and not repeat the mistake that john foster dulles the former us secretary of state made in 1954 in geneva when the chinese premier join lie extended his hand to shake hands and the american statesman just not been ignored them in front of representatives from many other countries while there is a prd ball cool waiting to happen north korea has the momentum right now it has made the move to will the carrot after that ballistic that banner ballistic year last year and will crease very crafty sophisticated is not a word that comes to mind necessarily when we think of north korea but no creates very crafted it knows how to wield both the carrot and stick and i think the us should not be overly aggressive in coming across as the party pooper so what do you make of the military parade in north korea today that that's not a softer image that's the the old fashioned north korean hardline that's the missiles or ross perot parade right and of course folding right on the eve of the opening ceremony of the olympics kim zoman is showing the world and in particular south korea who's the boss however less the united states raise a big fuss over it kim's online is also offering a carrot up a soothing musical performance by north koreans in south korea near the site off the games which just concluded so again february eight one sees even today on this uh snapshot of the day north korea wielding both the carrot and stick and getting away with it do you expect vice president pence or any other senior us official to meet.

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