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"elliot kent" Discussed on Judaism Unbound
"Often there are that every single person is here because this torah matters to them and every person is bringing their own set of experiences that matter for torah it is. What is going to make arturo beautiful together whether you feel really comfortable what you said just because it's in your guts or whether you feel that it's good because you know that romblom rashi to torah commentators from the eleventh and thirteenth centuries are also saying bringing both of those an makes it beautiful and makes it rich. It reminds me of a story that i probably told before in the podcast but five years in i can retail certain stories but at at one point many many years ago i was running an organization and our staff with study tour together and we were studying this particular story about jethro moses's father in law and when he visited moses. He gives us famous advice about how to organize the people into a kind of parameter leadership structure. But they're part before it where jethro comes and moses tells them what had happened to them how they got out of egypt and it's been really hard since then and jethro gathers all the elders together and sacrifices and animal. I think and says you know. Your guide is the greatest of god's and they basically have a meal together and i said know well. I think what's happening here. Is that says throwing a party. And what he saying to moses implicitly. Is you're a bad leader. Because you're a real downer and you can't be a downer there and be a leader and you have to get the people's emotions up before you do anything else. And so he's having a big party and you're kinda get that because i'm kind of introverted and i'm not necessarily the best at doing that kind of thing so that actually feels to me like really valuable leadership advice as much as the more intuitive. You should organize the people into groups. I mean that's not that complicated but the idea that you throw a big party. That might be something that you have to learn as a leader. If it doesn't come naturally to you so members turns to me and says which commentator did you get that from. And i said well no i was reading it and i'm having this experience because i'm a relatively new leader in the organization and i'm kinda seeing that that one thing that i'm not doing well here is throwing parties by the way is still not very good at that and then spoke to me you know. And she says You can do that. And i said well i guess so. I mean it's gonna stop me but it was interesting that it never really occurred to me or or i had gotten past the point where it would have occurred to me that that there's any question like you can do it. Can you do that. I mean i do whatever. I want but she who was from a much more traditional experience in jewish education. It was a lesson to learn. It was something to realize because you've been educated that if a monitor serve you know someone else didn't say it then it can't be valuable and so i'm curious how to understand more about your experience. You talked about how you try to give people the sense that whatever comes out of anybody in the partnership is a valuable piece but i know that people have such obstacles to believe that. How do you actually go about the process of making them. Believe it so one of the things that i do at the beginning when i give everybody the info they need to be in herethe is i. Show them a graphic of a triangle. That i got from elliot Kent called the philosophy of coverage and it's called the you know the hover to triangle. And it's the three responsibilities that you have covered tub moment in a partner learning space. One responsibilities to yourself one is to your partner and one is to text and that i think is the key that a lot of people are saying is that the text is a partner in your conversation. What that means is you're reading the text carefully and you're letting it have its own voice in the conversation which means when you like what it says. You are digging into that word to that sentence and when you don't like what it says you were also making it speak for itself and when you're really focused on what the text is saying if you can say what you're saying and then go yes. This word right here is what made me think of. It doesn't matter if it's the first time i've ever seen that word doesn't matter if you know what that hebrew word is. It matters that that word spoke to you. And you know that what you're saying is based in text. it's also based in your heart. But it is based on the taxed and i think that process for somebody who is very experienced in learning in a much more traditional way where commentators are ruling how they interpret and somebody who's never looked at tora before both of those people are going to relieve of themselves that they had to be correct because the tech said it. You saw the tax said it. I mean this is a weird connection. But i'm remembering early in my relationship with my spouse. My favorite torah portion happens to be the story of blom block and she at this point relationships. She didn't know that story. Which i think is very logical like it's sort of this weird commercial break in the midst of the book of numbers. It's like it doesn't sort of take the story forward. it's dislike a funny interlude. Although i'm sure people could be about that but i did a like an exercise where i i worked really hard to hide my own bias and i asked her like okay. We're going to do. We're going to look at the story together. And i'm curious on a scale from one to ten with one being like evil and ten being a saint. Like how would you valujet. Like what value judgment would you put on. The character below traditionally all those commentators and lots of jewish takes whatever and whatever have a very negative approach to the of to the point that when they read the initial story in my view they they see the story through a colored lenses and they see this character in a negative way because they sort decided to beforehand my argument and and it turned out she gave like. I don't know what it was like. An eight or nine like he comes off pretty well if you're not looking at those commentators if you're just looking at the text and and it was important for me to see that because it showed me just how much of a twist the commentators often bring to the stories and that's not necessarily bad. There's lots of torah stories. That i actively want to twist and that i actively want to change the message of but people don't always realize how on a basic level like we take for granted esau is like a bad guy in the book of genesis and jacob is a good guy like read those stories without any glasses on and i think either one of those characters can be seen as good and either one could be seen as pretty evil. So why why is it so important in your group action. My take why that's important in your group to stick with that because obviously somebody listening to this. Could be like but wait lex. You talk about finding connections in jewish texts to like pop culture to other things like why would you. Why would you sort of restrict yourself. It happens to the best of us to get totally stuck in commentators and by the best of us. I mean every incredible. Rabbi that we've been learning from for the last few thousand years but it is definitely put me at like butting heads with some of my coverage in the past to say i'm going to question the commentators and what that means is when you find in the text something beautiful like your sure that ballum is the number one dude and all of torah. If someone came into class and said the way. I just read. Beloved favorita is that he is the number one dude that i have read about in torah. I love him. I want to be like him. I would happily put in front of them. A piece of commentary that said the exact opposite not to say boom. That's the answer your rod but to say great. This is how other people have read it going back to the text. Can you make their point or do you still feel like you can hold your point and where do you think they got it from and coming back to the text really allows you to be in that exact conversation that the commentators were having and it's also about the understanding and i say this very often in my classes. There is no final answer in torah. Every time we come to the text were reading it a little differently..
"elliot kent" Discussed on The Astrology Podcast
"Place exactly when the ingress is take place or when the planet station retrograde like Mercury Retrograde station or even outer-planet station. Yeah it's good to keep that in mind so you can find out more information about that. I think it will be at the astrology. PODCAST DOT com slash twenty twenty posters fantastic. Alright Will let's transition then into talking about just some discussion topics for the rest of this episode. So we're trying to talk this morning at breakfast about what's been going on in the community what people have been talking about. And what do we. What did we come up with? What are you guys want to focus on? We talked about the How do you have to to be an astrologer? Yes that was the big discussion. We even did a podcast episode about that. which is the question of? Can you practice astrology. Prior to your Saturn return and we did a whole thing Lisa and I were went through all the nuances of that and the answer was largely. Yes but I wanted to ask you guys your personal stories about like. How young were you when you started studying astrology and winded as you begin practicing NC clients? US YOU'RE GONNA go sure. I think I got into it when I was nineteen and then I was at college. I went to a very small college. There were about five hundred students on campus at a time so I collected. I don't know I had like hundred and some birth charts of people that were around every day And I don't know if I would call them like consultations but you know I'd look at People's charts with him. I did a lot of that and remember a couple years in I could You know like I had a lot of people's charts in my head but like Oh yea blah blah blah. Seems pissed today. Oh Yeah Mars is on top of Bob Laws Moon now And so that was a lot of and I did Did do I think maybe maybe my last night. By the time I was like twenty two twenty three I would do consultations for like ten or fifteen bucks or somebody when he could buy me. General TSO's chicken. Why does an acceptable General Exchange. So I mean that's doing readings set myself before I like could trade where there's a value or exchange going. Yeah Yeah and then after that Would you readings for. I think I remember I kicked kicked my My reading price up to thirty bucks while after I graduated fancy that's and then I don't know I I was just kind of doing readings and The price went up a little bit. Maybe up to seventy five a couple years and it was really I I'd Ed been writing a weekly column for maybe a year or so and people just kept emailing me and wanting readings okay over the phone so I just kind kind of it just kind of turned into that and Ganic Lay on return. It was. I didn't WanNa do other things things that paid me money I was like. Oh maybe I'll do this okay and so just kind of turned into a profession a AH. You didn't do it deliberately. Well I mean there were certainly There were decisions along the way. It was a pretty like so. Let's see so from first realizing that astrology wasn't fake which was nineteen To going fulltime was almost exactly nine. Nine Years Okay and win. Did you go full fulltime on my twenty eighth birthday okay. So I was pretty much fulltime mom leading up to that was twenty seven but I I made a commitment to not get another job I was like you have to make this work Okay this is what your new literally. Early the It was the starbucks is part of this. Never worked at starbucks but I was like. I can't get a job at starbucks and I almost had to six months wants in right now. I literally got as far I was. I was having a hard time paying rent and I applied to starbucks right But I got some astrology work and didn't have to take the job at start interesting chat. Your wife is saying your last job was almost starbucks. Synchronisation Clarence yeah thanks. That's very cool. And what about you Kelly. I I started learning the basics of astrology when I was about eleven to sit a self taught at home reading books and and after I finished high school I was studying remedial massage therapy at a natural therapies college in Sydney and they offered a the course in astrology and I was reading remember I used to Raid Big Sky Strategy April Elliot Kent blog which is one of the first kind of good quality astrology blogs out there and I used to have have to go to the local library and log on at the computer there because now I'm really sort of showing my age to to read the incident to raid the place on an asteroid. Oh common stuff. But Circa nineteen ninety nine skjei eighty nine nine hundred ninety eight ninety nine ish. Yeah that will just after high school. I probably fact around for a little while not really doing anything of substance and then thought I'd gone study message and they had an astrology course and I was like it just never occurred to me that you could take a course in astrology. I signed up for that and Studied with that teacher for a couple of years and I was a little little more sort of structured compared to you Austin where I was like right. I'm going to start seeing clients. This is going to charge. And that happened I On my second Jupiter Return Actually When I was about twenty three twenty three twenty grade who started charging and yet I had a room? I how to like an office job where I was working fulltime but I rented a room in like a carpet clinic across the street but I could say client in it was casual but like if I had a client of an evening or Saturday morning and charged seventy dollars an hour for ratings in the beginning. Okay so quick. Question was urinalysis relative to your son when you went went pro great question. I'd have to check my I went. I went pro on. Uranus is conjunction to my son. Okay well let's check check I I think with you being born earlier. I think we both basically went pro with urine junk son. I was still in Aquarius. Then in two thousand and two two thousand two thousand two was turned twenty four. It was twenty three very much on the Jupiter Pace. Okay Yeah Yeah Yeah. Yeah I think what happened for me is that I spent most of my twenties shortly after that. Give it a corporate job seeing clients science but it takes a while to build up but it was also saying clients with my massage therapy practice as well so most of my twenties was I sort of had to businesses running. When and did you go full astrology? Hundred astrology was sat in return. Okay Yeah Yeah Okay so both of you share that in common. You're both born like super close together. We Yeah Yeah. We started doing consultations earlier in your twenties but then it was at the Saturn. Return when you're able to make the leap to doing astrology. That's about six months prior to Saturn's ingress to virgo for me but it was in the year of my life in which would return right. If for me I guess the the message was sort of there but when I was about twenty six twenty seven had been asta teach like a two year astrology program at a natural therapies college in Sydney so there was a real fullness already my soldier practice and the reason that I decided to go exclusive with astrology as I've got to a point where I was working an insane amount of hours between the two uh-huh jobs that needed to we'll businesses needed to focus on one sure. Yeah it was like obviously it was also passion by that point in your super interested in like a vocation or like in that sort of the true sense of the would. Yeah I mean I was interested in it for for what it was for years before I thought that could be. Okay Yeah I mean. I've never known anybody was and I was. I wasn't nobody's he's teaching around means so that only prison into astrology that I knew for most of the time. Yeah Wow right was when I invited you to come into product hindsight for that Weeklong conference they were having was at the first time you've met other astrologers you have pretty much there is like maybe like literally two or three other people at college were kind of interested in it. Okay but we didn't have a clubber anything we actually ended up disagreeing about everything. I don't don't even remember why but like arguments will just just the there was. There was not a confluence of perspective right and so we didn't end end up like talking about astrology okay. Should I didn't have anybody to talk to. But I was one or two other people within ten miles or whatever wow I I wonder in reading before I turned into a professional astrologer. Wow because the teacher that I studied with she told a couple of classes at this college. And then there would workshops and courses that she ran out of her home. There was a beautiful community of of people that were there and I mean I was living in Sydney at the time and there was the new south. Wales Astrology the association and things like that. We're living in the town of five thousand Ohio. Wow okay which we're Dave Chapelle lived. That's right okay. He was early Sunday. He was just a super tall dude. Who's just walking down the street? He was the guy in the weed movie in the movie on my Gosh. So here's a question. What would you do differently if could do over again in for in terms of that first? Ten years in that transition from starting to learn astrology to Going to starting to do consultations and then eventually doing it fulltime. Would you do anything differently. Well so I would. I would If I had okay so couple things. It's a little bit complicated. Yeah because one of the things. It's hard the context is so much different today. And that's what we were talking about earlier that you can learn ernest. There's so many more resources and you can learn astrology quicker potentially nowadays with the quality astrology than maybe you could when we came up yet so if fight sought out classes on they would have been a very hippy. Variants of modern And I would've actually had uh-huh unlearn. I think I would have trained bad habits very deeply that I would have had to undo. Some glad I didn't do that I just had A. I had books with the you know the enduring fundamentals this Zodiac. This is a cardinal. Science ruled by this. This is exalted there And so I just you you know..
"elliot kent" Discussed on Bytemarks Cafe
"In the early 2000s we actually were successful in getting funding for this program and then came a longer time off to a were actually the public interest had vein on these kinds of diseases so um in this pierre yet um and that is where also the time falls were i switch from industry to go back to the university were now i'm in the department of tropical medicine at jabs them and i i found a new home are basically to continue the you know interesting research we were doing and now our co a common interest of course is to not only do nice research but we need to develop this now the next step is to take it into clinical trials because we've shown up efficacy in nonhuman primates this is the closest that you can get to a human and now the next step will be to do all the developments steps that are required and of course elliot kent to talk more about what all is needed there and so we're very excited that we got this ground together so elliott mean taking a step back uh you know evil is not perhaps top of mind right now these things wax and wane and terms the attention paid perhaps other things are more pressing for people how susceptible would perhaps a community for example the hawaii b two evora i mean is it a imminent threat of someone just getting on the wrong plane or at the wrong time or is it something a little less menacing than that why as as axel the challenge with you bowlers it's it's fatal in most cases were the other diseases we talked about you get sick you don't you seldom die from them so it is it the public health folks take this as a as a real threat um i think the hygiene in the first world is such that it's not as bigger problem as a might be in certain other areas where where sanitation is poor communication is poor transportation is poor but we certainly you.