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"eagle beekman house" Discussed on Max & Murphy on Politics

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"eagle beekman house" Discussed on Max & Murphy on Politics

"Bronx borough. President welcome to maximum Murphy. Thanks for joining us. Thank you for having me on. How are you doing? Well, how are you doing? My secret the Jerry or Ben both of us. Hey, Ben, he. How you doing? I'm fine. How are you? Good. Good. So why don't we start with the thing that you've been most, you know, seemingly out there on in recent days and weeks, which is this jail plan, the mayor and and really the city council or moving forward on four jail sites. They're they're put them all together in one big package to go through the city's land use review process, which has just started. And you have a problem in your borough with the site that's been chosen. Do you want to explain? That I am in favor of closing down Rikers island have and I wanna be unequivocal about that. This is not about whether Rikers island should be closed. But it's a bad plan for three reasons. Number one bad sight on number two. We have a better location and number three. We are setting a bad precedent in having this Euler for four different sightings in four different boroughs on the one vote. So going back to number one. It's a bad location because for many many decades, we've seen at the surrounding area has been, you know, have come has come we've done a lot of development in the area. And the people of the eagle Beekman house is pleased that I'm familiar with since is to deliver meals on wheels lunches there when I was a teenager. They went from having, you know, high crime, and and drug lords there to creating one of the, you know, a very safe, you know, much safer neighbor. Hood and not only have they been able to do. So in a way where civil Cup studios has come in. And we have breweries and everything, but they also have an actual plan, and I've had a plan for years to develop the topa the to- Powell where the site has been located and the city is not only, you know, dismissing and discounting and devaluing all of the years of hard work that they have put into this plan and to restoring and and and bringing up the community, but they did so without even input from anyone in the community or anyone who's in the Bronx of that matter before they made this decision. The better location is one that is consistent with what the advocates and experts have said a long when you speaking of criminal Justice reform, and how we should be doing jailings in this country. And that is an even with the from the, you know, the the. The very words of judge Lippman. He says an experts say that if you're going to do Jalen that we have to have it. So that the close to quote, well, we have the property here on one hundred and sixty first street next to the the the family courthouse house over here. And I don't understand. Why is it that the city has not talked to us prior to making this decision? Be why they haven't fully examined this better location. They're choosing political expediency at at a cost to the communities concerns and anxiety. And then the last thing is to all of my colleagues in government, all of the borough presidents or the city council members having one Euler for all four boroughs sets a bad precedent. We don't wanna do that. At the very least what we should have is more conversations. And in the Bronx being that, we have a stand the standalone building, we should have our own you. Process we've seen and heard from folks in Q gardens folks in in from Chinatown all of the different communities have their own concerns. And those should be addressed individually not put into all in one vote. So. You mentioned the proximity issue, and obviously part of the rationale behind closing records is that it's out there on an island. It takes a long time to get to court houses that adds to delays in people's cases and keeps people in detention longer. And so as you said the rationale for relocating jails to the boroughs is to cut down those distances in the Bronx location. The CD's proposed is different from the ones in queens or Brooklyn Manhattan, which I think are all going to be potentially connected to their courthouses by a tunnel or a bridge. The Bronx would be think about a mile away. Correct. This is the reason here, we are, isn't it ironic? We're talking and speaking of criminal Justice reform, and the and the biggest injustice is being perpetrated on the Bronx. Are we any less than the other boroughs has said? Has said that the site you've talked about which is the courthouse is for those who don't visit the Bronx regularly or live. There are on one sixty I and you've proposed a site that is there the city's comeback has been that. It's simply too small for what they what they need is that an invalid objection because number one what data do they have this shows that they haven't even examined us. I in a courthouse. Number two, if they're referring to the property that they own and only that property, then perhaps it is more. But what we're seeing is that they should take the family court which has been under utilized. This you can you can d map the street between the family court and the criminal court house. And then you have all of the space that in some of that space belong to the state, and maybe they don't wanna get into it with the governor. Because the man the government, you know, don't get along. And so they've chosen the path of least resistance is towpath because e DC owns that property. So again, they choose in political expediency. But if you took the the. Family courthouse the street and the state's own property and the property behind the courthouse you can build up and have the necessary bed. And by the way, even if you don't go up as high as initially you would want to well, you know, what Ben and Jerry, they have reexamined the proposals in Manhattan, and in queens, and they've decreased the amount of heights there. So again, why cheating other boroughs different than than that you need the Bronx. But the space is actually there. So and you hit on the second thing. I you know, what I've heard from the divisor administration is both the size, and they have the control of this Topalli. They don't have full control. And you might have hit it something they'd have to negotiate with the state. And by the way, I'm sorry. By the way, I've already spoken to the state. The state is willing to just give the property to them. No good to nuggets enough. So we want to move onto other topics. But but one more let me just say this topic before we move on. It is critical. It is important something that we're gonna have to be dealing with for generations to come for us to get it right here. I wanna I wanna ask one more thing on it, actually, which goes back to this question of who got briefed. And who didn't and who's in and political expedience. The city council member who represents the district with the towpath with the city site is Diana yellow, and she has been on board with this from when they announced it so is is there some sort of disconnect there. I mean, what's the, you know city council members. And I supported that Yala. She won the district from because district is split between the Bronx and Manhattan and the Bronx is there for her. But respectfully, she doesn't live in the Bronx in the Bronx part of this. So no one who made this decision. We will only told once a decision was made. But no one who was in the room when this decision was made lived in the Bronx. I mean that was admitted at the press conference where they announced this that you had not been briefed or brought into the conversations. And then by the way, the towpath still present all of the all of the different concerns from transportation to not having the defense attorneys being able to have access to their clients. If all of the all of the things that we talk about Rikers island, presenting in terms of the criminal Justice reform. You're still gonna have all of those concerns at the toll pound. I if we're going to do it. Let's do it. Right. Let's do about a courthouse. So one of the things that this episode gets out his actually a larger issue wanted to ask you about which is. There's a charter revision commission happening right now. In one of the things that's being discussed is the powers and the role of the borough presidents. Do you think anything related to the powers of the borough president's needs to be changed in the city? Charter is there anything that you either want changed or any warnings? You have about making changes. I mean, we have we have. So my Representative and we're going to be discussing that more nuance. But off the bat, I think that when you look at the Euler process, maybe the borough president, should you know, our role has to be more than just advisory or, you know, this right now, the Euler process only the city council can can say no to a project. Their vote is the only vote, that's actually binding. I'll vote is is not a binding vote. And by the way, I'm not going to be the borough president forever. But I think that when you look at borough president the that's the only position in the entice New York. Where the person or the people holding bills the officer bar presidents represent an entire borough. So just off the bat that's something that, you know. I mean, and I don't wanna get into all the nuances of of budgetary. And and how our budgets perhaps should be independent of of, you know, the vote from the city council and the mayor's office and so on and so forth in how do we do capital, you know, allocations, so so the all these things we're gonna come up with some suggestions and give them to our Representative. And hopefully, those will be taking up in the future when we're talking about the charter revision commission and potential vote. So as the commission moves forward here, your office is planning to to put forward some concrete proposals or daily. Absolutely. I'm not here for window-dressing. Didn't know if you're just having those privately with your Representative on the commission who I believe is former city councilmember Jimmy Bob Walker. Correct. Are you just going to be communicating with him privately or do you plan on putting those out publicly? We we are starting to talk privately. I eventually, yes, we want to put out our you know, what we come up with. So we've been you know, brainstorming here, obviously, there's some things that obvious others that you more detailed and more complicated. So we want to flush those out. But when the time comes we'll come out with our proposals. And of course, we'll make them public. You're listening to maximum WBAI ninety nine point five FM, we're talking with Bronx borough president Ruben the as junior if you wanna give a call ask a quick question. It's two one two two zero nine two eight seven seven Mr. borough, president to shift gears your borough, which is also where I live is home to two of the nine specialized high schools in the city Bronx science and high school for American studies. My full disclosure. And my son goes to the ladder of those two and equity and issues around access to the H SAT have been an issue for many years, and they've percolated up again with the results of the tests affecting next year's incoming class. And the question about whether people in your borough or having an adequate access to those institutions, what do you think of the proposals? The mayor has put on the table to reform the emissions process. Do you agree with them? Do you have your own take on what should be done? And

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