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The Children Of Thunder

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The Children Of Thunder

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The podcast where we openly admit to using read it and wicky as our main source of information we talk about anything and everything we find interesting from the lost colony of roanoke to florida. We will have you learning and laughing along with us. Please welcome my good friend john. How you doing buddy what's going on. And what is this episode. That i've been in already. Damn fourth maybe. Maybe it's true though. I am a fourth of your content here getting there. Yeah you're every every month. I have to have you on. It's a contractual obligation. I think it is it is always contractually obligated for you to listen to drag because you're candidate exactly it's the same thing and like me contractually obligated to eat rice at least once or twice a day and for me to hate spicy food. That's sore i episode of read it on. Wiki is august second very exciting. What episode are you most excited for everyone to listen to john. Well i mean we did the little pole and apparently the loss colony of roanoke is the most voted on. So i want to go with that one. Because i think that's the kickoff. It kinda sets the president's on on what we're going to be talking about but really it goes off the rails a second episode and the third episode is completely different. So you kind of get a taste of everyone's different style and and we're just gonna mess you up completely. I was gonna say our second-half episode is going to be on k. Fehb and the end definitely definitely to stay tuned. in the end he gets wild. We will clip it and and share that. I'll probably everywhere so so stay tuned for the but we are talking about cults today john. I know. I know we've been recording a lot for other podcasts. But we're actually going back to my roots anyway because in this episode of let's a call we talking about the story of the children of thunder. A trio led by a fanatic. Who believed that. It was his mission to kill the leaders of the mormon church to carry this out. He brainwashed his younger brother and his roommate to carry out a horrific murder spree that left even the presiding judge reeling from its bloodying details. I have never heard of them ever before it is a is a cool name. The children of thunder. Like i would think they're like yeah praying thors but right sadly they're not they waste such a cool name on such a terrible act. I mean if they were if they were you know the worst people i mean. I don't know them. I guess i'd i wouldn't mind being the fourth official member like i'd want a cool nickname lord thunder thighs or something. Oh there you go. That's what i'm gonna take. I like that. I feel you would take into a different direction. And i don't i don't know if they would have you along around for no definitely no killing involved. Yeah yeah you'd be like we could just go chill you know. Play some some xbox or something we can each by mule near that like the hammer and we'll pretend worth or something. I think i think you would take it in a much. Lighthearted much more lighthearted direction we would definitely get kicked out. Just you don't belong. Yes so. I'm just going to hop into. We're going to talk about the helzer brothers. I think that's how it's pronounced but Raised by their devote more in parents in a small town near san francisco. The helzer brothers taylor and justin seemed like your average run. The mill american kids as they usually start out in highschool justin excelled in wrestling and even joined his schools official team unlike other athletes though he was shy and introverted often seeking approval from his older brother who reportedly encouraged those feelings in him by saying that he was number two tailors number. One so great older brother Just right making your younger brother feel like shit so that he looked inferior pretty. Yes like i'm older. I'm better than you so yeah which to be fair as teenagers. That's not uncommon. If we're going to it's not yeah it happens. I was definitely a to my younger brother. That i think everyone is. I can't relate. I'm an only child. So god no one's going to steal my thunder or your worst than both. Yes definitely later their cousin. Charney hoffman. would testify that quote. A lot of my understanding of justin is best described in contrast to tailor moments with taylor who were moments of clarity. It was impossible to be around taylor without being deeply influenced by him. The experience of being in taylor's presence is so profound. I think it would be difficult for someone with justice personality. I don't think he had a chance and quote so he says looking back. That was definitely going to happen. That just would inevitably do something terrible with his brother or or at least be controlled by his brother. Upon graduating from high school both helzer brothers went on a two year mission trip to fulfil the requirements of the mormon faith taylor decided to have his in brazil justin opted for nearby texas air. Homestate there john. My second home stay. Well it's where your both home states from california but san francisco but yeah oh god following me. The when they returned home to california both immediately found work. Just as a cable installer and taylor as a stockbroker in san francisco in nineteen ninety-three. He married his girlfriend an and had two daughters with her before. Separating in june nineteen ninety-six after feeling suffocated by the constraints of the mormon church. Which fair yeah. They're pretty strict two years later in august. Nineteen ninety. eight. Taylor left cushy job at morgan stanley dean witter and went on disability after being diagnosed with bipolar disorder. And this is where things start to go downhill. And i think it goes to prove a lot of leaders definitely have some sort of bipolar disorder if not some sort of disorder anyway right. I mean just for them to kind of flip. The switch between kind of. What's i guess normal. And what's ethical to forcing the people that they can kind of control controlled their masses by kind of flipping a switch and yeah sounds like something. That's in that spectrum pretty much yeah exactly around this time. Taylor was excommunicated by the mormon church indecent behavior which included smoking drinking and having sex with women other than his wife which i mean the last parts fair the other parts is like come on you just having a little a saturday night to me is the last part my my wife hopefully kick my ass. I'll cut that part i do. We need clinton yeah. He also began developing his own disturbing belief system and telling family members that good and evil were non-existent and that the scripture was being misinterpreted these pronouncements became even more radic after he lost his job and before long taylor was confiding in his friends that he was a prophet receiving messages directly from god. It's not a cold until the leader. Either believes tells people that he is a god or messenger of god and starting pretty early. Yeah i mean. I can see people questioning certain things about scripture or bible in on that one of them myself like i don't necessarily think some of the translations translate accurately specially to like modern understanding but for you to kind of embrace the role and say. Hey this is wrong. But i have the right word i have the right information and therefore i'm your messiah. That is exactly when shit goes to shit. Hits the fan pretty much. Yeah no i agree. Like good and evil definitely are non existent probably in the world. It's it's more there's a lot. There's it's all gray basically and then there's people better and people who are evil and you know it's like a more evil so yeah i i can understand definitely questioning like you but yeah to claim you have. The answers is where. I disagree on memorial day. Nineteen ninety nine. The helzer brothers attended a murder mystery. Dinner held at their local mormon temple that evening reportedly dressed in all black and thus stood out from the rest of suburban attendees. Most of whom were start shirts and press chino's. It was at that event that justin met don goodman a single mother mother in her mid twenties. Who had recently moved into town and was working a grocery store desperate to find a direction in her life. She decided to join the mormon church although she was said to be an outcast. Much like the helzer brothers will. Don began dating just shortly after the murder mystery dinner. She was reportedly fascinated by his cares. Medical brother taylor managed to convince her to join a self awareness. Seminar which consisted of spending a few days inside a windowless room while a facilitator aggressively badgered them to confront their inner demons which sounds like most university classes. I attended so not that crazy but no absolutely ridiculous After completing two of the seminars three levels don began receiving spiritual guidance from taylor. He had become completely unhinged by this point telling her that sometime in january two thousand it was his destiny to take over the mormon church by all means necessary. He also began calling himself. Don and his brother the children of thunder claiming that it was their mission to create a state of peace and joy for everyone. If that's not unhinged. I don't know what is that. That is wild. Yeah just being like. I'm taking over the mormon church and no one can stop me. And i got my children of thunder with me. Oh my god. Yeah oh yeah that does sound pretty intimidating you think about it pretty cool name. I'm i'm one hundred percent sold on the name. I love the name i too. Yeah which is my problem with most of these calls. They take these cool. Maine's aachen ruin for taylor informed on that it was her duty to create a self help. Group called impact america as this would help them successfully defeat satan. They came up with several plans to finance this venture including creating a subsidy subsidiary named intimacy which would provide wealthy businessman with prostitutes so basically pimping service interesting business model. It's gets way we're like okay. So goes off the rail with his next plan. After another financial scheme involved adopting orphans from brazil and taking them to the united states were they would be trained to assassinate the fifteen leaders of the mormon church. Yeah how. I was an audio who you can't see. John's reaction dumbfounded would be great. I'd like where you went there. You know. I'm starting to make starting to sound like a certain plot of a video game series called assassin's creed literally have your knights. Templar going against the more yeah. The assassin resit the brotherhood of assassins. Going against the mormon church with yeah with an underlying religious tone to it. Yeah exactly it's one hundred percent though the assassins creed. I wouldn't be surprised if they come out with this next year. Oh my god. I mean yeah they come out with instead of you go from go from the nord's and then next thing you know mormon some american just adopting brazilian children and training them. You're you play is one of the brazilian children. So these i mean. These plans were clearly impractical. So they they never actually did them thankfully and The the helzer brothers along with don finally settled on extorting money from one of taylor's former clients a wealthy senior citizen who could easily killed in case the situation called for it so you know not better but less crazy anyway of a plan. It's more like more people think of extortion rather than adopting children. Right and to me a lot of these things. I question a lot of some of the motives especially when they say. Oh i'm here to defeat satan. Yeah how exactly you're gonna do that. Are you gonna pull up and healthy alesane. We'll sell one v. One right now bro. Square up on some gloves. I don't know like how are you going to defeat saying. Yeah that's kind of what. I'm always wondering about when it comes to z. Lot's not the word for these crazed people thinking that you know they could change something. Using religion as a motive there's been thousands and thousands of generations of humans. You think you're the one. That's one v one satan. We got a trio. We are the children of thunder which bear the like. Maybe it's three people. Maybe takes three people to take him on three one. Yeah yeah so. so yes. So they're going in for extortion. They had other affluent marks mind. All of whom had at some point been handled by taylor back when he was working as a stockbroker however the scheme called for another individual to open a bank account and launder the extorted money for them. The trio knew that they would have to kill this individual to and so they settled on a twenty two year old. Selena bishop whom taylor had met at a rave party in spring of two thousand selena had worked had been working as a waitress at a local hangout called to bird cafe when she met taylor. She fell head over heels from instantly obsessed with his good looks and shoulder-length hair which he wore in a ponytail. I've seen pictures of this dude. I don't know if it's just me. I don't find like yeah like he's he's super average looking dude. I don't know maybe that was. That was another question had to like. Is it a prerequisite to be good looking to be a cult leader. Because i'm out in the running for that one. I don't i don't know maybe maybe it's just me i whenever i look at the leaders i think oh you guys have done terrible things so that maybe affects how. I'm looking at them. But i don't find many of them that attractive but i know it is like a. It's a weird kink. There are women who will right into these people on death row and all that kind of stuff. So i don't know maybe it's just the the danger or the confidence they exert. That is more of the attraction I i couldn't tell you but yeah definitely. She felt for him so that was not not a good thing for her. Unfortunately you're right. It's probably the charm. Maybe he has a business card saying you know what's name again taylor taylor. Yeah the bottom. His title is forgiven son of thunder. Well so you you. So that's actually funny. Sorry goes into the next point. She had no idea that everything he told her about. Him was a lie so for one thing he introduced himself as jordan so completely different name and for another. He refused to give his phone number and also declined to attempt to take photos of him so she was like. Oh let's take pictures together. And he was like nope. Also no phone number and taylor or jordan as selena called him was hesitant about getting to know any of her family and friends according to her aunt olga. She said quote he didn't wanna meet any of us from the people. I talk to who he did meet. He gave them the creeps and quote not a good sign. Aunt olga knows she knows from the old country. He's doing the classic side treatment. You know like we can't be seeing louis. Well i wonder if it's like. I know there's a there's a i mean probably in his mind he's like he's a psychopath so he's like i just. I don't want people knowing who i am. So i don't get caught but another part of me maybe wondering if the human part of him was like. I don't want to get to know her family because i know i have to kill her like that was part of it. That's the hopeful. Pardon me the. The realist of me is like no. He's just a fucking dick and didn't want. I mean yeah and you know that kind of that kind of goes to your point that some of these people might have some sort of bipolar syndrome. Because i know it seems like a trend to a lot of either murders or people who does things like that They want to be known because they're pretty narcissistic so may- maybe the other side of him is like okay. I don't wanna get caught. So i let let's not does not expose myself even more so that probably plays a little more to that theory that we have. Yeah exactly in july two thousand. Selena agreed to open four bank accounts under her name believing that she was helping her boyfriend hide inheritance money from his vindictive ex wife. She also began pursuing him to finalize his divorce. Not knowing that she was a mere pawn vicious game to quote journalists julius shares of turner entertainment. Taylor had no feelings for her. He had money to steal and people to kill the reciprocating saw he used to cut up. His girlfriend's body had already been purchased at the local sears. The duffle bags that would hold her remain at the local k. Mart end quote so while he is dating her and she's opening these accounts for him. He's already got the tools that he's going to use to kill her. And your body like a fucking asshole. The fuck do. How can you premeditate that. You know. I mean it's just it's just so much things going on and you're you're you're kind of manipulating someone to do. All these crazy steps for you and game is still going to be the same like yeah. You're just a tool you're upon. Yeah so fucked up beside selena bishop the tree also planned to kill seventy eight year old and nita steinman and her husband eighty-five-year-old ivan both of whom had worked with taylor back when he was a stockbroker in san francisco. The couple of developed a friendship with him over the years one that had lasted until well after he left morgan stanley. He would often drop by their house and even went so far as to take them river rafting one summer accompanied by their daughter nancy hall later. Nancy would testify that her father saw taylor as his own son. The steinman were at the trio's original targets though rather taylor had planned to extort and murder another one of his former clients a wealthy man who lived in the nearby town of walnut creek however he wasn't home when the helzer brothers paid him a visit and so they moved on to the next on their list anita and ivan now. 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Twenty twenty one needs a meal plan book and love the journey terms and conditions apply. All right let's get back into it. On july thirtieth two thousand the helzer brothers decked out in black suits and carrying briefcases arrived at the steinmetz home which was located only a few miles away from the court. House that they were renting they mobilized the elderly couple using shackles purchased from a bookstore earlier that day and force them inside a white pickup truck. Which had don goodman at the wheel together. The children thunder drove the steinmetz to their rental home where they made. Anita call the local branch of morgan stanley in order to liquidate her investments. It was believed that she and her husband had been made to drink a date. Rape drug called rufin all so rookies to make some more complacent as they wrote two checks one for thirty three thousand dollars. Another for sixty seven thousand dollars. Both of these were addressed to selena. Bishop just is it's unfortunate. You know it's a lot of older couple especially you live that long. You would think you would just get your do time natural causes but for you to do that. Like by couple of assholes. And that's just that's lives crudeness authenticating. Do you know what i mean like. I guess in a way because they trusted him but wouldn't say they were duped necessarily the same way. Like sophia was they were duped like they trusted him as a friend. And then donna force them like forcefully took their money from them so taylor initially believed that the couple would overdose on the fees and die but while they did slip into a coma they still kept on breathing which spurred the helzer brothers to take drastic measures in a bid to hide their crime. Ivan steinmetz will. I should trigger warning for anyone who does not want to hear this. By because it gets a little a little brutal ivan steinman head was slammed against the tile floor will anita star was early slit with a hunting knife later. Don who witnessed the murders testified in court saying that quote. I couldn't really believe that this was happening. The only thing. I could do was pray that the couple would die so that it would just be done with end quote. The following day taylor ordered his younger brother to dismember the couple's bodies with the power saw he reportedly declined to do the dirty work himself claiming that he had to sit and meditate to receive messages from the spirit. So so taylor's like you have to do it. Because i have to go you know. Listen to god or or say after they just did some crazy shit like but i. I find some humor in that part because like as an older brother. It's like i don't want to do the dirty work you do it you do it. Shitty is the thing he's doing is it's is a little bit of You can see like an older brother doing something like that. Just just to be an extra shitty person right once justin was done hacking away at the couple's corpses the children of thunder knelt beside the body. Parts and thank them for sacrificing their lives for a greater cause definitely not a greater cause then the attempted to feed the remains to several dogs that they had adopted from a local pound especially for that purpose however this plan failed instead they were forced to stuff. The body parts Gym bags which they weighed down with rocks before dumping them into the mccollum. Moca colombian river probably butchered that but Yeah so that's that's. That's not the right word to say butchering word. After god damn it. Yeah we went there with the puns and also cancelled yourself august first. Selena bishop walked into a local bank and deposited the checks into her bank account claiming that she had received hundreds of thousands of dollars from her grandparents to pay for her open heart surgery. The following day she went out on a date with her boyfriend was said to have had expressed frustration when he failed to show up on time. According to a news report quote bishop was in especially good mood that night. The next day she and her boyfriend were planning to drive to yosemite national park for a camping trip. No doubt she hoped it would be an opportunity for them to get closer and for her boyfriend to finally divulge more information about himself end quote. That's on august second. Which actually is our podcast released. Take that mind. Always be plugging. That's that's the motto on august third. A neighbor testified that she saw an nineteen eighty-four honda accord drive up to the house that the children thunder renting inside with selena. Who was planning to spend the day driving with taylor. Two semi unfortunately for her their romantic massage he had promised turned out to be a ploy for her to lie down in an incredibly vulnerable position. In a retelling of events a news reporter clan that quote as she lay face down on the carpet contentedly yielding herself to her boyfriend strong hands as he rubbed her back. Justin helzer walked into the room with a hammer. Perhaps taylor was crooning sweet. Nothings into her ear. She was a young in love about to go on a romantic vacation with her boyfriend. She was happy. She never imagined what taylor was capable of. Whatever was going on whatever. She was thinking as she laid on that carpet. She didn't know what hitter as justin slam the hammer into her head. Several times cracking her skull end quote. Miraculously selena was still alive. After this it wouldn't wouldn't be for long though. Taylor carried her to the bathroom where he told her that quote spirit. Says you get to know. This isn't a dream end quote before slashing or throat with the same hunting knife that he'd used on anita steinman that has dark. Yeah yeah. I mean so. There's there's almost nothing good to gain from this story. Like i'm glad she like in her. Last few moments was like in a happy place. You know what. I mean like in her mind she was like i'm going on a vacation like this is good. But it's terrible like like she seemed like such a good person and just like to help out and like wanting to like help her boyfriend with this with the money stuff and and not knowing where it was coming from but assuming it was to hide from his ex and and and then go on a nice vacation and hopefully get to know her boyfriend and then it ends ray ends in her life basically which is fucking terrible and goes to show you just what a piece of ship this guy. He's one of those exactly cult leaders. I talk about. And i'm going to say like this is not like victim blaming it all but you know it's just it's just hard to kind of explain the reasoning why someone would be that trusting initially specially if they don't want to divulge like complete information about them themselves for them to help them out but again i'm not trying to victim blame them because i'm actually watching this show now. It's been out for while. I think it's called dirty john. I don't know if you've ever you're seeing it live tells me it's about me. It's pretty much the same. Like i'm i'm only in the fifth episode of the first season. But it's pretty much about the same. This person kind of lied about. His personality lied about his way. He's about and he pretty much trick. The the girl to give him all her assets or share all the assets with them. And and this is it all comes to how terrible some people can get and it's just taking advantage of someone's kindness. Someone's heart to help you out on your time of need and you're just going to take advantage of that. Some people are just felt man. No i get what you're saying like. It's it sucks because we shouldn't be in a position where we have to say. Don't trust people as much as if it was a world full of selena's and no taylor's like the world would be such a better exactly but it sucks that it's like there are taylor's out there so you have to keep the people like selena on their toes and like prepare question things because there are a terrible terrible people at their and it's fucked up. What the stuff they'll do till the manipulate people who just trust in like goodhearted people who could never even fathom someone doing something so horrible. And i think it's also a lot of reasons why people are so jaded nowadays thinking so hard to be more open and be more transparent with people would be more vulnerable. Because there's a history of people like taylor that will do fucked up shit like this and it sucks because we won't be able to advance society as a whole because we're so distrusting of people like this you know. This is unfortunate. I do feel bad for selena on and you're right like a soloist like she. She kind of went out like in a dreamlike scenario. But she doesn't deserve any of that stuff you know. No no she she. One hundred percent deserve best life and like to have someone respected her and deserved her honesty. And and you know back back kind of a girlfriend is just. It's terrible that she happened to stumble upon this piece of shit. and taylor. Yeah he is. He's still alive but we will get to that god. Please don't do well. I don't think he'll be able to the children of thunders murder. Spree was far from over though their next mark was selena's mother forty-five-year-old jennifer Ville lowering who knew about the bank accounts that her daughter had opened on behalf of her boyfriend in the wee hours of august. Fourth taylor drove to selena's studio apartment where her mother was staying with a fifty four year. Old man named james gamble. The two were mercilessly shot at point blank. Range with a beretta nine millimeter which prompted an upstairs neighbor to call nine one one. So part of me is like all right. You've slit people's throats already. Why did you use a gun in a very heavily populated area like right. My mind went to you. Planned all this shit out and then you just kind of fucked up by not being quieter. I don't like i. S fucked up. Think about but that's all i do is study fucked up people. So what else do you think. Maybe they did that. Because they didn't know a lot of times when they do murder investigations they look for a motive and they look for some sort of otis of how they do their killings. Maybe they wanted to kind of spread it. Because they're probably not gonna they're not gonna find this chick selena like right away and they might not be able to tie the same type of murder because it's like okay. Selena was like brutally killed. Must be something but then the the mom was just an execution style. Kind of stuff like maybe. They can't correlate the two together. I i would have a hard time believing that 'cause they were dating right and like there were people who knew they were dating and then on top of that. The two people that elderly couple he killed were directly like they knew him directly so i think it would have been pretty quickly that they would be able to be like. Oh it's definitely this dude with the weird cult killing he knows directly so i don't i think they started off with a good plan you know and then analyzing it as as kind of pointless because it's like it's disgusting like no matter what matter we put it. It's they. They had a terrible plan. They d- they shouldn't have killed anyone and they should have. Just you know gone to the woods like every other fucking cult and you know been terrible to themselves instead of outwardly terrible. I'm more okay with that. I feel i still feel bad for the followers but at least they're doing harm within and not to the world as a whole which i think is slightly better backs by the time. Emergency services arrived though. Taylor has already escaped on august fourth. Two thousand nancy hall. The steinman daughter reported her parents missing after they failed to pick up any frantic phone calls that same day k. Shame in who lived next door to the helzer brothers claimed to have seen her neighbors driving a truck to which trailer with jetski was attached. She also testified that there were duffle bags on the truck bed as well as one on the lap of the man in the passenger seat. Now in my mind. I'm like i don't know why that raises red flags because like visa jet ski and then a bunch of like duffle bags i wouldn't be i mean there's there's bodies in that rate something's off. They're he's going to the lake. I would assume like oh. There's probably wetsuits or something. Like i have no idea. A few days later on august. Sixth chevrolet lumina minivan owned by. The steinman was found by the police in the nearby industrial neighborhood. In addition to a chainsaw and saw horse they were able to lift several fingerprints. That were founded to be justin hauser's and don goodman's based on court testimony. That same day of children. A thunder hired a professional carpenter cleaner to scrub their living room. Claiming that the re large red blotch on their carpet was kool-aid so linked back to my very first episode. According to bill who was made to clean the stain justin and dawn had been sitting calmly in the kitchen eating a snack while watching him work. So very very creepy. I would hate to watch getting watch while i was doing some work. Yeah oh yeah. My dad does construction. Says biggest pet peeve is when they just watch stand at the bottom of the ladder or something and just stare at you like something could fall like easily fall on you please back up. I hope it does that sometimes. Well that's true but then you're liable exactly. On the morning of august. Seventh police officers raided the home that the children thunder had been renting in search of the gun. That had been used to kill jennifer. The laron and james gamble instead they found ton of a a ton of ecstasy hallucinogenic mushrooms and other similar paraphernalia which were enough to have the trio arrested on drug possession. Charges taylor attempted to escape. Twice vos as quickly dragged down by authorities as the day progressed more and more evidence was found that linked the trio to the murders of the steinman 's the duffel bag containing the couples remains were also unearthed from the moluccan mccollum river which excerbated the police believe that the children of thunder were behind the horrific killings in december. Two thousand and one all three members of the children of thunder were charged with eighteen different felonies which included murder extortion and kidnapping. I am very happy that they were convicted. Because that does not often happen with with Murders let alone cults cults. Almost never they almost never get charged. They find kill themselves before or face. Criminal charges often or not enough faced with mounting evidence against them and the possibility of a death penalty. Don goodman struck a deal with the prosecutors becoming their star witness and giving up the healthier brothers in exchange for a lighter punishment after agreeing to testify against justin and taylor. She was sentenced to thirty eight years to life in prison. So that's the lighter sentence which good fucker. She was a piece of shit right. According to several news outlets don's testimony against the elder brothers was so sickening that the judge at one point asked for a quote collective deep breath before work before continuing. Yes so don't blame. Yeah oh one hundred percent like she was going into detail about all that stuff. I talked about and i would also need a collective breath right in march two dozen four shortly before his trial was about to be in taylor. Helzer entered a surprise. Guilty plea with his defense attorney reading aloud. An impromptu confession to a stunned courtroom justin helzer on the other hand pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity to the eleven charges that a jury had convicted him of during his trial. He was portrayed by both his lawyer and his family members as a mentally ill and vulnerable man coerced into the murders by his more gregorious older brother which in some ways is fair but you can only take that so far in my opinion like right you can be manipulated by your actions or your actions and you can one hundred percent. Say no at any point in that so especially the severity of the crimes that you committed. Exactly you can't. It's just it's just a cop out. Excuse yeah it's one thing if you're in a store and your brothers like you won't steal that lollipop or something like one thing. It's like all right like yeah. You're probably could coerced into it and It's a shitty thing but it's not the worst thing in the world but if my brother was like hey come murder these people with me. It'd be like fuck. I'm calling the police like you're you're absolutely going to a psychiatrist. Who had interviewed him even tested that justin had a delusional disorder which led him to believe. That taylor was genuinely a prophet of god and thus the killings they committed were morally wrong. Yeah shortly before sentencing. Justin reportedly told the court that quote. I want this to be over. I want to die. I'm being truthful. I'm sorry i'm not trying to be rude. I just wanna be free. I want freedom or death end quote and the court obliged with these resigned words. He was sentenced to the death penalty on august fourth. Two thousand and four four years to the day that the last victim in the murder spree was killed. It was noted that as the verdict read aloud both jurors and his loved ones cried openly while the family members of his victims celebrated all in all justin. Hauser received three death sentences for the role that he played in the five murders on april fourteen. Two thousand thirteen forty-one-year-old justin houser was found dead in his cell at san quentin prison after tying his bedsheet to the cell bars to form a makeshift news. This had been his second suicide attempt with the first one leaving him blind after he stabbed his eyes with pens and pencils in a statement released to the press. Contra costa county chief assistant directive attorney home. my god County chief towns was there and then assistant directive attorney. It's like you can shorten the name like come on guys. Droop will see sure herald jute said quote in. No sense of the word. Was justin helzer a victim nonetheless. The origin of the obvious torment he experienced in prison. Reflected in self mutilation and now suicide clearly rests of the doorstep of his older brother taylor and quote so he's basically saying everything that happened to justin rest on shoulder on the shoulders of his older brother. Which is fair. because if he didn't have that influence none of this would have ever happened. Right taylor. Hauser remains on death row at california's san quentin state prison. They'll further updates have been made since his sentencing. It isn't known either if he continues to believe that he as a prophet of god has been entrusted with killing the leadership of the mormon church. One thing is for certain. Though his staunch belief in these led to the horrifying deaths of five people and may have cost his younger brothers life as well and that is the story of the children of thunder called took an amazing name and ruined it forever. That is so dark. Yeah definitely one of the darker ones. I've covered yeah. I don't know what to say. Like i'm glad that they were punished. And he is still being punished. I have some sympathy towards his brother with just the understanding that i know what manipulation can do to a person and he was definitely manipulated. But that's still no excuse for what he did. Don on the other hand thirty years. I said this is two thousand and one. So she's You know she's still got a couple more years after quite a quite a few. Um we'll hope it had dawned on her that her life has fucked. I think that's all we need to say on. That topic is fucked. Five people's lives up. That don't deserve it. Well more than that if you think like their families their friends like murdering one person effects. Everybody exactly it's terrible. Like and i don't know where they were going for. They should have gone with the brazilian kids plan. I think in the end back to create it create an army of brazilian assassins. Assassins to kill the mormon church leaders. Take the kids. I mean this is fucked up. Don't listen to me guys. Take like you know if they were going to adopt those brazilian kids out of life of poverty. At least give them some sort of purpose in life these bad ass assassins but again the listen to me. It was a joke. If i'm i'm thinking about it i don't know if they were treated a much better than they would be absolutely but at least they would have the chance to hopefully get to america and maybe find a better way of living like they could assassinate their masters and bam exactly which which is another whole. Actually now that i think about it is none of them were assassins. How are they going to train these kids to be exactly exactly. Send them to jujitsu school for a couple of years. I don't know. Oh my god anyway john. You know what it's time for. We've talked about these shitty people for about an hour now and it's time to rate their called because society doesn't know how to quantify things unless you read it with a point system so out of five stars. How would you rate the children of thunder and this is not. Because i think they're cool. Okay but i won't give them with three three out of five stars okay for to for the following reasons. One the one star given right because they're shitty but give them a two star because they do have a coup last name. I'm not gonna lie. Fuck and the third part is seems like they're all their plan kind of came to shit at the very end because of the organization of their organization kinda led to their end. But i did think that there were more a high level in terms of plot as compared to others other costa. You've talked about in the past. It's more like high level thinking it's like okay if we extort money we do this even though like the initial planner kind of idiotic but in the grand scheme of things had it worked out. Dow was a pretty good plan. If you've had it worked out no. I think that's a fair rating. I wasn't even going to go that high. So kudos for you to go in and it's not. I'm not idolizing them. I just wanna point that out. Because i understand i just wanted to be you know. I'm not saying. I want to be a part of them but if i was i really wanted to be called. Lord thunder is with a bunch of our children brazilian. Assassins train them. You're devoted that plan. Yes i think. I have to go with. I wanted to go with one. But i think you've bumped me up to a one point five star. I think the name itself gives it. That's that's the only redeeming quality is the name of the cult and then the half star is their thought process was yeah as you said slightly ahead of other calls. I've talked about. They plan a little bit further ahead even though it did not work out. I don't know for me. it's less of a call because it's three people. You know what i mean like i feel called needs at least five to be cool cool quote unquote and and yeah. I don't know it just in have like it. Didn't seem like they stuck to their original belief as much as i think they should be around that shit. But like as much as most called stu you know at least if your your sole job is to kill the mormon leader group. Why are you killing all these other. Random people question for you though. Would you think that this is kinda like their initial plan a takeover. Because like you said it's not really a colt per se unless there's more members maybe for them getting the capitol for it instead of the traditional sense of coal. We're like hey. I'm going to indoctrinate as much people as possible. And then take their money right. You think they did this because they wanted to. Speed up that process because once they have their capital off the bat then they can proceed to whatever they want to do much in a much faster rate than building from the ground up as other colts. Do it. I kind of see that in some ways. That's a potential in other ways. I'm looking at it. And i'm like they only got a hundred thousand. I mean that is a lot of money but if all sorts of the two thousands true yeah if all three of them had worked a year like this year planning and killing or not. it wasn't a full year. But you know what i mean. They would have easily made that. And then just you know they. They could have started funding it more and more ways or yeah like requesting donations like most colts do or i think i think they as i said. They planned what they were going to do. They didn't. I don't think they plan further than that. I think they're like okay. We've got to get money to somehow kill the mormon leaders. I don't know what we do after that. I don't know if they thought about what they would do. After the got the money right or if they were just going to bail after that maybe they were just robbers with some sort of religious scheme. I don't know i don't know. Or maybe maybe they kinda put that idea to head so maybe if they do get caught they can use like. Hey i'm gonna use a plea for insanity as a way to justify all the crazy and inhumane shit that i just did and only got thirty years to life instead of exactly forty two either way. They're all assholes. Yeah all three of them. One hundred percent. I hope he rots in hell while in prison for the rest of his life and then hell if they can one view on saying ass. Yeah we'll see how he does with satan when he goes down to meet his brother and dawn Exactly i don't know if you watch south park but this is exactly how. Imagine say in like how he looks. Okay perfect big as dude dude. I don't think i don't think taylor is that. Tell the years good-looking apparently. So apparently he's got back on charmer. Thank you everyone for listening to today's episode of the children of thunder john. Let's tell my amazing listeners. About our new podcast and where they can listen to it. Oh my gosh you put me on the spot but yeah like josh said. We are going to be launching. Read it on wiki on august. Second twenty twenty one. I don't know when this episode is going to come out but be excited launch day. Were launching three episodes off the bat. Josh going to be covering the loss colony of roanoke. Our boy sean is going to be covering k. Fame and i will be terribly pudding florida ban into some sort of different perspective and then from there. We'll go on on a weekly basis once again. But you can find us wherever you find your podcasts. Were on apple podcast. Spotify anything else you can think of. We're on social media on instagram and twitter. Read it on wiki. that's our oh and w. aka. I quit josh. said yes. We admittedly us pity. And read it as sources. I diligently study for this podcast. I do not diligently study for the other one dot one is for fun just as much fun as possible. And you'll in first surprise. We are going to be reading erotic fan fiction and it gets really weird weird and hot. That's my heart is because we were sweating the long. Now we're on the same room together out there. Yeah it was It was a surprise for sure. But a good one. And i hope you guys enjoy all the episodes and yeah definitely subscribed to read it on wiki where super super excited to bring that to you guys and it's a weekly podcast so it doesn't have to interview with this one. You guys can subscribe to both listen to both of you. Want and If you're loving this podcast be sure to give us a review and tell your friends about it. Be sure to go to our by me. A coffee page and become a member for ad free episodes. If you wanna keep up to date with the podcast. You can follow us on twitter and instagram. let's underscore cult. You can follow our facebook page at facebook. Dot com slash. Let's start a pod or you can go to. Let's start a call. Podcast dot com and sign up for a newsletter. Thank you fred for listening. And thank you john for coming on today. We will see you next time or we will see you next week. Glenn read it on wiki releases so get excited for that all right here.

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Zeity Zeity Bosstrends 3/24: Terrence McNally and David Edwards, $6T, Easter, Half Life: Alyx, Britney Spears

The Daily Zeitgeist

13:49 min | 1 year ago

Zeity Zeity Bosstrends 3/24: Terrence McNally and David Edwards, $6T, Easter, Half Life: Alyx, Britney Spears

"Are you excited for little fires everywhere on who well so are we? Which is why we made a whole podcast about it appropriately named little fires everywhere the official podcast, my name's Jamie Loftus, and along with show, runner, executive, producer and head writer Liz Tig lar-. We're going to be taking you behind the scenes of the show every week, so make sure to listen to little fires everywhere the official podcast on the iheartradio. APP Apple PODCASTS, or wherever you get your podcasts and stream, who little fires everywhere starring Reese Witherspoon and Carrie Washington now only on Hulu? Working remotely can be a challenge especially for teams that are new to it. How do you deal with your work? Environment being the same as home while staying productive at a time when teams must come together more than ever to solve big challenges, Trodellos here to help trello part of Atlassian collaborative sweet has been powering remote teams globally for almost a decade. Trello keeps everyone on the same page. Helping teams communicate focus and connect Trello for free and learn more at Trello. Dot Com, that's T. R. E., l., DOT, com pillow the Internet and welcome to this episode of the Zaidi's eighty boss trends. courtesy of Haas boss man. I'm Jackie O'Brien. That's deejay Don Goodman. Not to Miami doing what's happening, you know. I'm doing well doing. We I am surviving. That's it. That's a good with Amen. Doing not well. Better than. It could be yeah. I feel like that's part of the trend. Is everybody being honest and saying well? I can't say I'm doing great, but I. am doing well as I possibly could in this time. So. Let's talk about what's happening in the news right now. There are two names trending people who are famous David. Edwards was a great. College basketball player in the early nineties. He played for Georgetown and Texas I am. He was in his forties and he died in new. York City from Corona virus related. Complications. And then a one of the best playwright to the last couple decades best for ragtime masterclass. kiss of the spider. Woman died in Florida and he was in his seventies so. The, coronavirus deaths are coming through. Unfortunately, yeah, the the charts are really scary when you look at. How much New cases are going up and shit like that, so stay safe out there. I guess yeah, and you know healthcare workers very stressful time for them, so the answer is if you have healthcare workers in your life, or you know you see some on the street and give him. A, shout-out. Solid six feet away. Yes In by shout I mean shout! Yes! Ross, street, yes, six trillion dollars. Is Trending because. That is what they're proposing for the aid package they want to give it would essentially be A. Transfer to Wall Street like credit transfer to Wall Street. Told what yeah. You could afford to give every American adult, two thousand and three hundred dollars a month for a full year with that amount of money. You could afford to give six million people a million dollars with for that amount of money. Absurd. That's yeah. And instead it's when you put it in those numbers. Yeah, it's GONNA basically. That's a third of America's GDP so it's it's a massive transfer of wealth and the idea that it would go to companies I know I'm sure they're like people who work in finance who are listening and they're like well. You guys just don't understand. There's like all these things that you have to take into account and I would just say that you probably have spent too much time talking to people who are all in a very small bubble. All deal with the same concerns and we should be giving. Every American adult twenty three hundred dollars a month for a full year one hundred percent. He's fuck off Easter. So kind of on the same tip, trump has said he wants us all to return to work by Easter and when asked what what that is based on? He said he thought it would be a nice time line because Easter the beautiful time because he's a fucking idiot. Gosh to live in his brain for a second, just be like well. I can say these things and they. Make people feel better, and that's all the better. He was so pissed when the reporter asked him what that time line was based on. Like it was based on, tell you what it was based on. Based on the fact that it's a beautiful town line. What great thank you, thank you perfect and other perfect barbequed Dan. What's happening in the world of video games? Let's get off all the. Bombers. Fill it. Let's get it off all this bummer. Ville Shit and talk about the coolest video game that has come out yesterday a completely under the wire of everything else, but valve released their next edition of their half-life. Franchise called half life. Alex it's an entirely VR game so going back into one. My other realms that I'm completely obsessed with. What's funny? Is that that game half life? Alex is currently about escaping and oppressive police presence during a disease corentin. What? Yes, so as much as I wanted to escape the world I was currently in. Unfortunately, this game is frighteningly poignant. So, why so I I mean besides the fact that the story line is you know kind of right on par with where we're at, and there's many moments that kind of give me a little bit frightened. Look at the future. The game is an incredible usage of VR technology. It's one of the most beautiful VR games I've ever played I've only gotten two to three hours into the game and you know like every VR. VR, experience! I'm recommending it to everybody that I could talk to, but yeah, it is managing to be an incredibly pointing game in this moment outside of its just usage of awesome VR. Technology and people who are listening to this obviously can't see you, but you are currently wearing a vr helmet. Yeah, where are you right now? I am currently in the in the zone and surrounded by zombies and head crabs and I am. I'm in a lot of danger right now. And what is the police quarantine in the show? Is that like a plague based police quarantine or more of a Zombie based? Definitely plagued based definitely plague baseline accord. Yes definitely and the police look more and more like the regular police every time, so it's it's just a little more LOU news. Do definitely recommend so her that Cameras the plague I think it's called. That novels supposed to be good I have. Downloaded it on audible because I don't have time to occupy. My is doing anything else. So I will be listening to cameras the plague. Way To spend your time well reading my kids bedtime. Finally Britney Spears is trending. because. She is our latest socialist. Thought Leader So what was going on with Britney so it recently sorry. I love it. She posted a picture on her gram. Pacific Sherman instagram which is kind of I, mean you call it a piece of art? It's a short poem along sentence by artists. Name Mimi Zoo and she posted it on and Britney Spears posted on Instagram I believe it was yesterday, and it's just a long phrase, and it has some sort of it has a couple you know socialist elements to it and I'll read it to you right now. During this time of isolation, we need connection now more than ever. Ever. Call your loved ones. Right virtual love letters technologies like virtual communication, streaming and broadcasting are part of our community collaboration. We will learn to kiss and hold each other through the waves of the web. We will feed each other redistribute wealth strike. We will understand our own importance from the places we must stay communion moves beyond walls. We can still be together, and Brittany adds her own little communion goes beyond walls with three rows emojis in her own caption. Wow. Hell, Yeah Yup, and as Robert. Evans says Britney. Spears will be the first celebrity scaling the walls when we finally take mar-a-lago. That that is not. Not What I expected from her? Yeah I completely agree, and I think if anything. It's kind of contributing to the contributing to the conspiracy theory around Britney. Spears's supposed- you know isolation from her own kind of touring team. Yeah, and the world. Yeah, yeah, I mean. Maybe she has been in the same situation that we've been so for people who aren't aware. There is a conspiracy theory that she is being held hostage essentially by her father who's in charge of her estate, and he's using the judge's ruling back when she. was deemed mentally unfit to make her own self determinations. She was put under father's care, and the theory goes that Her father is kind of keeping her hostage, and she is using her instagram to send messages out to the people. So maybe because she has been captive in her own home for longer than any of us have right, she's like okay. Welcome here is how we communicate with one another. We do it over the web. In Code. And, we strike out. Usually posed DSM's more or less. Yeah. Shoutout to her did not see that for her, but I really happy for agreed agreed happy to. Welcome to the revolution exactly welcome to the revolution. We need more like you yeah, Amen? Well Dan can't say. It's been a pleasure. That's been. Been Real mad has been real man. ZYCH gang hope, everybody, stand safe out there. Wash your hands, yes, please stay social distance yes! Face. Congregate. Don't leave your said that as I was touching my face. It's okay, we're all we're all fighting the urge. And also, if you have the ability to help each other if you want to communicate if you WANNA, talk to people in the gang joined the discord. We have an active discord page. There's over six hundred people in the discord. Now. Who are all talking to each other every day? Talking about you know, there's a bunch of different channels that there's different things we wanNA share. Share people are sharing their art. There's a writer's corner where people are writing stories. They're showing their in homework stations, and we're also sharing help. If you have access or if you have ways, you can help people or anything. There's a channel for that as well so if you WANNA get into discord, checking footnotes check the daily geist twitter and all that stuff and they'll be. Joy. Shout out to gang. SHUTOUT TO DJ. Thinking about shot to you? shot at me of course. Around Hosea. These fine people. Make the. Name and We will be back tomorrow with another podcast and we will talk to. You guys them. I'm Robert Evans hosted behind the bastards, and it could happen here and a generally a guy who spent a lot of time bummed out about the state of the world so in July of two thousand and nineteen. 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When To Use Paid Traffic, Organic Growth, Or Neither #8

It's Possible - Conversations with Successful Online Trainers

35:57 min | 1 year ago

When To Use Paid Traffic, Organic Growth, Or Neither #8

"I've been critiqued more than once about talking to the ADS. We're going to shorten this thing of now been visually assaulted. I feel a tax person as wall, but I'm going to. The highest rated personal trainer software across trespass. CAPTERRA get out in the winner of the best of his in the personal training software industry. You know who it is. Who is it time? PT Distinction well. You know what else about PD station with what else they send you huge chunks of money for unprincipled pieces of media like podcasts. which nobody is quite figured out? That's none of them book distinction you might not, it's a it's a clear. It's clear SA- clamor steak. You know as I said on previous podcasts you guys should. Change Your logo to allow Lollipop because you guys are some suckers you fell for. Jonathan Goodman. Who is not a sucker? My basically my best friend, he worked out a deal with PT Distinction where you get sixty days of PT Distinction right there on your phone in your pocket. Go over to go over to get some distinction we've got. We got a link for you. It's an online training dot com slash PT. Sixty days no cost, enjoy it. Love it. in any case all dot. com. We got hold thing the online training dot com. Have you guys been there? You know the online trading academy. It's everything that you need to responsibly and successfully coach fitness nutrition online Europe coach out there nutrition coach. If you're if you're a gym owner, you know travel on over to online training dot com slash academy. We want you there. Hey, we're ready to believe in you. and. Jonathan Goodman and welcome to the. Show. Today, is episode eight? And our topic today we're GONNA be talking about the difference between hate traffic inorganic leads now which one is more important, spoiler alert. Neither, but you can hear about both those when use them when not to use them. And judging by the first bit of ZAP is. Probably a whole bunch of other nonsense you don't care about. The online trader show trainers. Trainer show. This is the online trainer show. We shouldn't have a podcast. Shingle Jingle. Bells Jingle Jingle. Jangle Jingle. Jingle all the way. Well here we are episode, Alvin let me tell you, but recalcitrant a cabinet story today. Evans new favorite song is Jingle Bells. All folks wow. We decided to get the other night in a garage and Calvin came and wanted to work out, but he wanted his look cigar. So instead of my implant. A PDF version of jingle bells by reflects. It's exactly how imagining. You can look it up on spotify. And that's all I can think of. Is that the playlists that you shared earlier in the group? no, no, no, no, no! You're working playlist. Conduct with Christ. Cast it. That's brings a lot of the content. In any case. Episode eight of what seems like one hundred thousand. I need to read. The contract didn't sign. And you know we've got good topics for you today, so do we have any more reviews like I haven't seen any reviews? Are we just the one we we had? We had one review like at six episodes ago, I think we tapped out like the P. too early. No I didn't I didn't know that you do this segment, so I didn't know. You know we have gotten to be very popular Internet. Really. We are starting to become fairly popular. The initial views are chromosome. Initial use. Wages the positive. Airlines. No they're not. Legitimate. Ad The told you to stand up comedian many times. Yes. It's that's not gonNA happen and A. Strobe on twenty twenty spoke which apparently. This is the best thing we would up so. To Do use that that you should. You should tell me before so I. Can actually look with us. podcast failed now so that'd be way too efficient for me. I? Like I like to keep? The Cup led to keep the the audience. For. Firefighters! I already started looking while you were talking standby. Let's let's. And that's why she's. That's what she's in charge. Kettle anything our INFIELD correspondent Catalina. Bend modest anything. Anything significant happening in in Mayor Ville. Alkan. Any stormtroopers. I town always loved time. No side from the fact that you're GonNa, see me like rubbing my I'll day is I actually eight like a sandwich and I had pickled Jalapenos in my sandwich because they're the best thing ever, and then I went and I touched my eyeball hundred. So yeah, that's a hub that's that's like a Mexican rite of passage. It happens to everyone at some point or another. Cook so you? You've had you've had some contact with some companies that want you to be influenced. Directly. Your post-open to the bow yet. Including this guy rioting popularity. I just think yeah. I'm so arguing and say like. Did you sign an NBA or something like that? You are able to disclose information about how the even said yes i. just got the email before we hopped here to record. I mean who will we talk? What are we talking here? Information. This is. No. Company it's a I. Don't remember the name of the company because I don't remember. It is a local to my area company and the. Specifically that they want me to be reviewing and using nonstop is a Stevia based product, so it's like for sweetening coffees. You see the yeah, so which is in line with my clients do already because we tried to find local alternatives to when they're going for weight loss. So I, don't know. I got a I have a fully considered. A single joke us with. Using, Come on come on, give us something. It's like it's like sweet, but not really sort of I don Goodman. So, like the. Candidate sweet. It's it was like you know what it is. That is the perfect. It's like the Joe Brown Twenty Twenty Review. Sweet but not really. The best thing you've ever done. Let Books Conferences this. Is it so so? That's cool. So how do you? How do you influence Stevie like I? Don't know how to get more people to buy Stevia. You're going to do because I can look. At such a small packet that how do you like? You said CV heights. From what I saw! These are drops, and why note, the products in their line is different flavored of Stevia based drops like for example. If you want to flavor your coffee, Vanilla, chocolate or whatever? So then it's not just the Steve Yeah, but with an additional kick to whatever flavor your choose low morale at your professional model. Out that you need professional promo. Yeah, you can say you know how a it's OK totally I totally would would. Just ignore that information compensation, but How do you then? How you promote Stevia. Drops you like do recipes. You might pose beside. Give them duck glimpse like Applebee's Mike Buck A. How how do you? Would he risk. Is Part of the industry so absolutely priceless hope I well. Who Sees Oh this like. INSTAGRAM! Well all you it doesn't. Skinny up. Right there. Old Right there because I have been following everything that we learned in the ot a there is a relationship that has been forged between my my clients, and my viewers, online and myself serious. Followers? I. Don't know what they're called followers or whatever? But. There is like a sense of trust right so. there. and. Their Liege. You're with me right so anyway. So because there is a sense of trust I know that I would never push out something that I don't actually like that's the other right. I just wouldn't okay. But my question was who like. So. What do you do with with Stevia drops? That's can I WANNA buy it I. Don't know if I will do it for starters, but if I did what I imagined would include definitely for example recipes like in. Life, how do I apply this product? And what is it like for example, if it really allows me to forgo for example, the extra calories of sugar without sacrificing flavor or quality than that's a gain for my for my clients, because that's what they're seeking. Calling slow because then you don't. Little Olive, our no Stevia flavored cauliflower. Circle is complete ladies and gentlemen. You just. You start topic come full circle. Ghetto? Can I just say I'm proud of you, you know. which whichever way to saying goes man. You've you've made it this far? I feel like I. Feel like you're I. Feel like podcasting. Tower banks congratulations. Keto. Still in the running towards becoming America's. Host of the podcast is like his seal I. Feel like you see when. Started as I you like you seal you win by wings. That's not even a thing first of all. We have a talking head. Held up a card yet. Everything is that was very touching, but I'm not crying. It's still the freaking Jalapeno juicing. We follow up. Comment from Mr Joe, Brown twenty twenty. No Way. Are you making this now? I'm on Youtube commented. On episodes for God. Bless excalibur nights. Thank you Joe Brown Oak? View! It's January twenty twenty one because. Of deeded obviously updated, your name is GonNa, be has. Up On for for me I'm telling keeps showing up as Joe Brown twenty twenty. Ad Issue Losers along time ago was but I. don't his heart. He needs us out. And we need you to joke. So. Do. Have we have a topic? Right like this there. There's some online training stuff to to talk about like. We're talking about the magic. In the Industry today Zach said the right. No today we're talking about. Talking. Against doing what I thought. This is the shoelaces episode all right? So so pay. Does that well, you know. I'm getting it together. Siemian episode ten. Be Phenomenal phenomenal movie. Be Patient with me Jonathan. So or Danny versus paid you know 'cause. I get a lot of commentary from Ota Students, because believe it or not out there thought cast listeners actually do some. Functional. Work for for organization this, isn't it? You're not gonNA, here today, but I do things that are fairly normal in impactful, but I hear for students all the time you know my paid at didn't work, I did my paid ad in India. They got no traction. Nobody responded to my paid. Add It's broken. It's the algorithm is system it's. Safe. Zone, Verka Difficult reading think. self came to my house and unplugged my laptop as I as I paid for my head, so it's funny, because it actually is is nothing, but it is A. Spoke an paid advertising networks. June may get more difficult so smaller advertisers generally because small advertisers completely insignificant so the bottom line and give the most of heads. This is kind of always what happens with any paid advertising media establishes. You have like a you have a loss McCain on facebook. APPS came out. What happens is. In order for it to be. In order to get together this huge by in a media. Really, it's pretty cheap to buy. Ads can convert them on the while, and so everybody starts using them. And, then there's kind of a switch that flipped at one point. When the uptake of the markets dog Tuesday level. where I mean, facebook doesn't care about you. Thousand dollars a month. Five thousand ten thousand dollars cable hundred thousand dollars a month. You know they'd advertisers spending millions of dollars every week. And so. So. What is the law? ed TV. Doesn't networks I guess the idea would with basically what we're talking about legitimate. And what do you do? You Feel Generous, have you? generate leads? inspires Kind of pointless. What's the best way to do? My answer spreads prizes in the best way, but they're certainly easiest to get started. We talked about this a few times where it's Kinda like a big stone wheel along time getting on training business going what what we don't let nuys. Is that unconsciously in inputs, attorney, business or whatever we do beforehand? We will build up a lot of lamentable over lot of years consciously without knowing it. But, we forget about lot of that work that happened today and now starting online you. You'd kind of stuck, necessarily a new business. Start Marketing the new way to voting in a new way you perhaps for. The EX! Well I believe very strongly that you should start with what you already have, and you should take easiest path. which is almost always going to be organic, which was always almost always going to feed off of existing relationships that. Doesn't mean that you sell. Friends doesn't mean But somebody who is a friend of a for somebody WHO's connected you some way A. Has Reason to trust you more. Than somebody. WHO's never mentioned. And I think that that's the biggest missing piece for a lot of people who start on training think that they need to advertise to get leads the understanding that anybody you've ever met. Anybody you've ever met. That knows that. Is immediately on more qualified lead than somebody. You've never met in your less because somebody. You've never been you life Do you have to cut through the noise? Get their attention for long enough. Don't want to listen to you, and then you have to prove to them that you are worth their time in the model. That takes time. It takes a lot of efforts into the sticks. I need to confide in online training client with ads these stays. Beyond your initial, you could just get started and take off some low hanging. Fruit may be people who can network targeting people paid advertising. But once you get beyond those initial few people. Like We'll be different with everybody, but in the fitness industry to generally fitness client for fouls for weight gain for whatever. You'RE GONNA. Spend over one hundred dollars easy. And as you want to win more than that, you're going to spend more than that to acquire. This is a pain clap. This isn't a leaked so when you see all these people that are advertising. Oh, I can help you pay client acquisition. Look at look at this. Get notice that all of those advertisements Osho. What happened when somebody starts working with them? You ever noticed how. Yellow the testimony. Always Posted got three clients were X. amount of dollars in the first five days. Okay, Bro, that's cool. For, so many goals and INFLEC- seems like preachy acquisition. What happened after a month? You never see that because after a month all of a sudden flight aquisition costs went up considerably because that's what they always were. Once you go beyond so the question again the generation Neither one is better than the. Daily generation is incredibly profitable to do wreck. You need to go back and you need a good conversion mechanism. And need good milk getting a good copy. And you need to actually spend a fair bit of money for your figuring out what works? What this means. Is that hugest start? No. Big Hill to climb in. I believe very strongly if you haven't gotten US already stocking when it comes to go out the business. Take what you only have. When you don't have a lot of money. To invest a little bit more time. When you have money, you could start buying back through time. Most people start online training. Even? If you don't have a lot of time, certainly don't have a lot of money. You can waste a lot of money, and you also don't have. All of the skill sets that you need like dictated advertising. Who competed against you competed against people who experienced copywriters advertisers design moles NBA. All at once. And if it's just you and you don't have all of those skill sets like at a high level. It's going to take you to build out. To take you a lot of money to figure out. What does. She get honestly start with which out to people you know. Start with understanding who your target market is. Who talked about this earlier? Talked about this yet, so who you speaking to cleft messages for them to compelling offer for that? And put it into your network. Figuring out how to convert people via. FACEBOOK instagram APPS. And make time to actually do it. Get your first few clients. Once you get your first refinance, then you can decide whether you want the best that back into paid advertising simultaneously all again. I. Don't think you'll get stuck up stocks. We didn't pay for advertisements the first five years of my. We, still we advertise a fair bit now we do a fair bit paid advertising. But I'll tell you that are that we have behind the. And all of the organic work that we do all content we produce. Figs riposte, basically specific folks that let ask people to take action and talk to us. Only she knows that we send all of these organic themes. Generally, we would leads paid. But the pages kind of London, the background and allows us to scale allows us to be consistent throughout I. think that's kind of how you have to look at it. Each to you grow your business to words. Like? Not. Just be like. And then you could start with will whatever investing law money pay, but he certainly stuck. So. Here's a question I'm I'm starting out I'M GONNA! Put my I add what's what's my action item? As a as a as a young ambitious I'm I'm a young ambitious Catalina. You know what I've got my whole future ahead of me a bright light of the world. The low of my existence trailing. Peppered by. Whole opinion pepper in the corner, mom, crying, shedding real tears of joy. Because I've just become a trainer and I WANNA. Get some content out there and I. You know. I got a story to tell John. What you do, what I do you do exactly what Carolina did I thought you might say. That was different and unique Abo- to wear all of those people that are also different and unique index sebwe. What makes tech what other insecurities. Where they now they want to go in aggregate, but like it's probably pretty similar. And then tell some stories around that in those communities, where those people already exist with a simple call to action. Comment if you WANNA learn more. Send me a message if you interested If, it's on if it's on Instagram, it's really good to be able to like. You could tell vc historians in your instagram story. And then from there. People message, said Hey. If you WANNA know more about the suddenness. It's as simple as that. You actually don't need phone calls most of the time. Might help you to do. Some phone calls to learn more than two people, but. Man Like any played. Call your clients. If you hold clients, call your clients because you could pitch online trading in a way. That sounds if you let it own kind stocked with you because they traveled a lot for example, will you move away? They move store, but they really love training huge. Then you can easily Taylor and basically say it was A. Hated Good like actually just starting service should be interested in its. Allows me to work with people that are actually not directly with me and actually off the more than I was often posting. In. A actually launched a story that somebody who I will. Remind me a lot about you. I thought. And, she likes to hear. Yet okay great here. Or if they start trading because cost issue, because impose training can be too expensive. We can in the same way. Hey, I've got a bunch will cost effective service and and I think you benefit from that. You like to hear her. Talk about it in a way that would make them care, and if you know somebody that's past heart. You talk about way the. So. Keto you actually talked to humans, is that. Is that what I'm gathering? Because it sounds foreign to me? You're engaging with real people. You, you did that. Yes, imagined that I actually talked to be. Did you, did you and I know this is gonNA sound radical. Did you also listen to them when they talked? It's baffling. I know like it's just crazy, right, but all my it works. I can't contain my confusion on this subject. Ambassador. Obviously joking, but do so much truth in what you're saying. In the job behind the joke of what you say, and how sad it is right, the amount of times in in a group which is our fleet group for on chairs on facebook. The amount of times that will have a A. That will have a well attention trader post there. He helped guys. Get cuts I'm trying to think. This guy doesn't nothing. Would what do you do about to give up? And I will it's so funny. 'cause inevitably every single time you guys are also you need this money. Times all just take back a single line. How many people having spoken? Right. Right and and. The answer. Is Hit every case I've ever done it they. The answer is not like Oh four or not the answers. Well listen this. Listen to this ride. deflection is kid. And now just right back state line. But how many people have you spoken to today? And they say none and say. Maybe you should talk to people. It's radical. How Dare You Jonathan? What what's? What's notable here is considering how you like to be sold to. Because the first bit of an engagement as customer is actually, the prospect sequenced right the sales sequence. Has that feel? How does it feel? To be sold to by somebody. WHO's trying to automate every single thing? If the service that you're selling is by definition. It posted on service. Right exactly right right there dodd right there, not see some sort of a disconnect. Yup Dough from a client standpoint. Would you not if you would've customer. A you being marketed to with an automated facebook ad to email often to automated Webinar to whatever this is like in advance, say like how many people as need have that and you're selling a postal service if you even have the time to talk to me. While you selling to? Imagine after what kind of service about getting, get from this person exactly. I don't care that you promise me. It's GonNa. Be Posted. We get phone calls you wouldn't. You wouldn't even send me a message asking how daily. During the sales process, you don't even show up in your own marketing materials, yeah! Basics back to basics that goes back to what you were saying. couple of episodes that go in that we're here to solve a problem so to sell your client's problem. You need to talk to them to find the. Are you going to write. Just. Really! That's actually brilliant point. Is. came. On my family after eight episodes, yeah. But the A. The idea of you actually don't know what the client needs. In the client also. oftentimes can't verbalize. She actually wants. When a client comes in, they say I want to lose five pounds I. WHY DO WHATEVER? They're saying those things. Because they feel like those are either things to say what they feel like. Those are the things that make them feel better. which they may, they may not be, but the never the depots behind why they watch cheese something, so if all due is coach is gives them some sort of. Of of an automated system, a superficial service delivery without ever having talked to them in diabetes deepened. We're not actually ever GONNA sell through your up. There were fascinating examples in our industry I think it was it. Look a change. He told story of A. In a in a form for one of. Clients seven basically knocked recommending them service like say. Oh I did I did. You and I would recommend it. And then they looked into her database. Alexa being lost fifty pounds, yes. had. Overnight she speaking negatively about the program. And it's because she felt like she wasn't looked after the that she had hoped that she would after the way that you must be after. Because which you really needed. As part of that program, which which they didn't no with this automated program was not I a fifty pound weight. Loss's great obviously, but it wasn't. It wasn't there compassionate specific story, but it wasn't a Ashington field. You didn't feel like she had somebody. There are no. She felt like she did it on a low. And and as a result she was not only like not happy that she was going over for Steve program that you've lost fifty pounds. Right the asking. Yeah, but but that's super common. You know as a as a coach. Is this kind of lost out of Coachee? What's what's the? HIPPOCRATIC OATH OF COACHING? Is. Learn one to postseason needs before you figure out what you're going to give them. Yup also radicalized radical. Crazy. I just I wasn't prepared for this level of radicalism today and I'm I'm blown away. I'll deep deep. into. Cheese, I'm. Definitely Gandhi. Of. The. Commend! You just need to just. Going to be amber and I like giving actual legitimate information and getting. Done. I SUPPOSE Yeah amber is nodding quite violently. Swap you will, you will clearly see the MVP is my house. Could. Undercut. Desolate. That's that's the bill every cases. I'm. GonNa I'm, GonNa remain solid on that. Speak to endorse or get involved in. That's abby. I've got I've got a reputation to protect. So Jonathan, here's here's what I've taken away from what you said today. You can talk to people. That's that's allowed as a yeah, it's it's allowable to engage with people you know. In relationships have much else that you can use leverage if you're gonNA. Do paid advertising. You have to do eight advocates. You will get. You'll lose a lot of money. You'll spend a lotta. Time will be a lot of frustration. You'll get fairly chauffeur if it kind of dip your foot. You kind of have to leading to do it, which means you have to have money to door is a casino. Win Eight. You need to WHO's really. People trying to get dollar ten what? Sounds good. Even if you put a dollar. Ten with that, you're not going to be every single time. If. You've got fifty one forty nine advantage casino. Still might have to spend millions of dollars before you start to see that advantage. Is there on site so? into to the in a little bit. So to have to start. which is your ability to coach ability to be compassionate ability to make your connection? With real people at start between know we call five day I, mean it's. Top of mind system in the Trade Academy. Is just. In its most simple than ever, it's so simple. People don't believe it works, but it is literally the base foundation of everything. Which is literally I? Kid You not. Nature that every single day you speak to five people. That is literally all that. Almost every single online trader ever needs to do to different this. is every single day into Farsi? Doesn't even have to be to. Wells. And the best news it gets easier and easier. The more you do it just like anything just like diet nutrition. The more you practice, the easier gets, it becomes a habit just. Doing it right? Then then you've got look for hacks at one point and justice, Scalia drops. For some Stevia own me. got. A. Johnson Parks Jonathan has encouraged us to to relationship build and. Has Seconded that so all of you guys out there? Listening on the PODCAST, just go out and reach out and touch somebody's hand. Or getting marketing so your fitness plan. The online trader. Trainer show. This is the online trader show. We shouldn't have a podcast. Took just like those. That's A. That's an interesting point like for me. Personally I don't like to drink gasoline. So I. Don't want a gasoline I. Don't want water that tastes like gasoline if I don't like the thing, why would I want substitute for the thing? That makes no sense that was a terrible it was. Auto. And I'm usually pretty good at now. That's not one of my better ones. Usually pretty good. Doubts that was as bad as it's got. That that was that was pretty bad. I think Kettles, Sipping Diet Cola though so I know she's into that. Have Production. She's chiming in. Advertisements because people actually eight us to do as funny as that sounds.

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Ol' Red by Blake Shelton

The Story Song Podcast

1:13:36 hr | 1 year ago

Ol' Red by Blake Shelton

"WHO's a good boy? Oh, who's a really good boy? This week on the story song. Hey everybody, welcome back to this story Songkok Dan Macaroni I'm Rachel, Oakes and We walk you through his story song and this week. We're doing old read. By Blake, Shelton and There no, oh l.. Yup. That's how you know, it's contrary. By it's all it's all read by Blake Shelton and Rachel and a second I'm going to ask you to run US through this story of the story song. Sure but I didn't WANNA. Point out. This was one I was unfamiliar with okay. You brought this to us. I listen to it, and I was extra paying attention to the story. Obviously, and you're going to do in the show and this was one. That is a fun a fun journey because. I. I'm a sophisticated story song listener so when I listened to a new store is your job I mean you have to be saying? But when I listen to a new story song I always. I know where this story's going I got it. It's. Every story, Song or mostly songs fit into like a certain number of boxes I know where this going the first two lines. I'm like I got it I know this story is going and then every other two lines I was just like. Oh, no, I don't know the story is going. Okay? Okay, okay, now I know where this story's going. No I didn't know where this story was. So it's it's a real. It's A. You Know Serpentine. Jeremy on the story also has to count them to punch lines. But we'll get to that at the end so Rachel walks to the story of the story song. Okay well. This story Song allred tells the story of a man what's called Blake McCarthy was sentenced to ninety nine years in prison for killing his cheating wife and or her lover, and after a few years he ah friends, the warden and the word, and gives them a job taking care of his dog old red. Who is used to? Take care of escaped fugitives, and so through the years he took care of you. Mean like track them down. Track them down track. Yeah, yeah, Yeah Yeah Yeah knock! On Them hand-and-foot. Right now he doesn't bring. It doesn't bring people there. Slippers right? He's not. He's not Nanna from Peter Pan. Alright, can you hold my calls pleased for? Five minutes. That dog is a great administrative assistant the. Great. Anyway. Dog. But. after a while blake comes up with a plan to break out of prison by having his cousin. Bring a female dog down to strike up a romance with all round. So every night. One of Blake's jobs is to take all read for walk and when he takes him for a walk, he takes every night to go and see go see. Is Lady Friend for a couple of nights in a row? Then also they have a lady in a trampoline happening, and then right well well I don't know if it's the tramp. While old red is taking a walk. He's taking a walk. They are yeah, so, but then he's now. Here's where the plant comes in then. Blake holds off on having read visit. His lady love for a few days. Then he breaks out of prison and he goes north and the warden and everybody is like. Send allred after him, but all read. All he wants to do is get down, so he goes south whereas lady. Love is while Blake is going north. And that's the story. He gets out. It's crazy I do like to imagine that they have you ever read about like murder, mystery show, or like something like a Black Mirror episode. We knew a rewind the end up right until we kind of worked backwards from there, and just like 'cause there's three songwriters here and one of them was like guys dog sex. Work backwards and figure out how we get. There I know where we want. End Up I. Know I know dogs doing it. That's where I want to get to, but the question is how we got. Let's work backwards. How we're GONNA get there. That's the big thing the other. Is anybody else concerned that don every time we're writing a song. Don just adds dog sex leads. I mean it's working. Don't get me wrong. I'm just saying. Listen Throw Spaghetti at the wall tilts up sticks. Called Mile Wife with another man, and it calls men nine in. Prison Far Man Georgia. Close to the fraud. We're loud man here for two long years. I finally made the war my friend. And, so we sentenced me to laugh vs. Taking care of alread rated. Yeah when I first heard this I like the first minute or so. It's like all right. I think I could see where this country song about a Guy Oh murdered his wife and goes to jail, and then within a minute it was like. This Dog Well. Let's talk because I I'll sort of I'll explain to you where I thought the main highway was. On this story and we just we just kept getting off an exit that were unexpected, but I'll get there in the bed, so. Why I caught my wife with another man, and it costs me ninety nine on a prison farm in Georgia. Close to the Florida line. So I WANNA give praise to the song. Right off the bat and say off oftentimes complaint about how you're wasting. Time Santa Lines you know every word in a in a pop song and his story song is precious. We got a lot of information writing these first two lines. And I love. My life with another man and it cost me ninety nine. We know everything. Yeah, in in just that one last. Glance over the double murder. Murder Glance over it because that's not what the story is about. This story is about a dog. Yeah? Yeah well, and he's also like it's not a thing where it's like I didn't do it. He's not proclaiming in his anyways. I Colorado another man. You know what happens, I killed. and. I got ninety nine years in prison so. Redemption what I'm saying. Is just how I wrote. This is just how I am. Yeah, cut to the weird. Weird porn parody. Redemption. It cost me ninety nine on a prison farm in Georgia here I don't know and. This Day, and age I probably should know more about the prison system. But what does the prison farm? Is that like an actual working? You know I believe it prison form. Is You know like in Cool Hand Luke. And in Shawshank redemption where the where the prisoners are. Are Working. All the time, so they're not just locked up there working and doing things like in in. Cool Hand Luke. They're doing things like laying roads and shawshank redemption. They're. Like Putting roofing up. It's weird, but I think working prison. They're not just in their cells. They're working well. A prison farm is like. Like for new prisoners like before. They're ready for the major league presents. They practice during the farms. Yeah, yeah, definitely, yeah, well I've been here for two years I finally made the warden my friend. He says that like that's the thing that's supposed to have. To most people become friends with the warden. I feel like that's not common. He's like Saint. Like almost like Oh, I finally made partner after all these years, and it's like I don't think that's guaranteed. They're going to be friends with. As well I've been here too. Long Years Dude Dude. You have ninety nine years. Possibly committed double murder. Two years is nothing too long years. That's what somebody says. When there is like I got internship like man too long years. I don't know why. You are so long, but yeah, and then he's the first. Who's rag the next ninety seven. Just blink of it's. Never once you get settled into that routine, but yeah, and then he's like like finally made the warden, my friend. I write good on you. Maybe the warden was just like super cool, and he they met, and he was like. Oh Hayward and hang sometime now. No, we don't have to. I gotTA. You've got you've got other warden friends. The word opposites collar, and says catch on the flipside. He's so cool I. Just want to be friends with them. Warden Zuko. You're the one just like we also away on his little whealy. Man I wish I had noses so cool coolest. And you know I don't I don't like. We will call me Blakey but when he does it. I, don't mind. So cool. I, WANNA. Be I'm going to be friends with that warden. Someday, I duNNo. Opposite or it's that Blake Shelton who is a charmer in real life, but the character link is just so charming. that the that the warden is like. I I tried to resist, but. This guy is super. Cool is a real cool while big night were. Ninety nine years. Thank you because I can't imagine how. I got I got ninety seven more than I will cherish. Rose. man that word finally that you get hung up on like. He finally made it like he was desperate to make this man as friend well I think he had know terrier mode I think. He wanted to be wondering who? We are he wanted to tape that was that was the big thing. But. He sentence me to a life of ease. Taking care of old bread now this is the first time I was just like. where? I was not expecting this. Come into the story. but sends me to a life of east now understanding as to take read for a walk, but otherwise I don't think it's life in prison. All that different right I'm not sure why he seems to think he's now on a life of ease. Unless that's his job, right Melissa. He's not doing whatever job he was doing before on the farm and his only job. Now it's taken care of so we'll say this again in cool hand Luke. This whole thing is basically cool handling in cool hand. Luke there's a guy i. Forget his name, but he's a prisoner and his job is to take care of the of the wardens. Dogs these big bloodhound. Okay, and so I feel like. Maybe that was part of the. You know that if you were if they felt that, they could trust you as a prisoner that you would get. To hang out with dogs, mean right. That's that seems like the best job to happen the prison. Yeah you. It seems like the best to have anywhere. Yeah. You, Think Blakey, whoever was taking care of the dogs for him. Do you think Blakey killed that guy? To get because I mean if you're take care of the dogs right right? And let's say you have a life sentence. You'll be taking care of the dog so next ranked years. You know so. Maybe or more again, the word in is just so smitten with Blakey. Like, fires like listen to throw rated, you're not going to be. Alright anymore now. He's the damndest dough. Ever, seen got a nose that can smell a two day trail. He's a legged tracking machine. You get. All self might in hooking to get past the gators and the quicksand thing. These years. been you know about a gap? Pass read red. About I'll read I love dogs. Stocks snitch. I was going to say I'm just GONNA. Say It okay because. Nobody can get past this dog. This guy's turn it in every. Everybody knows that the bloodhound is the snitch the dog world. They are just like listen. You do not say anything of what happened. Is he around? That guy cannot keep his mouth shut. Say or his snitch? Get milk bones. Right, yeah, this Dr Scott quite a nose. You can track down just about anybody. And now he says you might consider yourself lucky. You get past the gators and the quicksand beds. To say as always very excited when a song talks to me. Telling me that I am lucky for my prison escape get past the gators I get that part 'cause you're close to the Florida line the quicksand beds. Is there that much quicksand? I was there. Is there a lot of quicksand? That only happens like the jungle I guess. I guess so I. Guess I don't know this is a looney toon state penitentiary. Okay, that's. YEAH HERE WE GO! Yeah, because I thought only Indiana Jones had to worry about quicksand otherwise. Yeah. But yeah. You might consider yourself lucky. He doesn't say anything about like an bills falling on. It's rough out there. Yeah, you might run into what you thought was a tunnel, but turns out. It was bad. I listen I got news for you. You could probably stop a lot of people from trying to break out if you were like listen. You could try. You're probably get past the gators. I'm sorry, gators, Brian, but then you're going to have the quicksand beds I'm sorry there's also quicksand beds. I did not know we came in on trump. Yeah! I didn't realize that there were these things out there. It's probably fine. I'll work in the library. I'm sorry. I'm from the catskills. and. I was brought down here. Did you guys give you a quick down of what's going on out there? It was brought down for dirty dancing so. I. Really like ninety nine to life for. A corner. Dancing suggestively yeah the. Yeah I, agree I think that probably most people that if the gators and the quicksand beds are like three and to and the number of things you have to worry if that's not even if the quicksand beds are not even the worst thing I need to worry about actually. I'm just going to stay here. I'm. Pretty, I got three hots and a COT. I'm fine. I'm just GONNA make. You Little. And Miles. Heavy treed Ball Balm. It's an issue when the word has a song. Finding escaped convicts or song as like. Why don't you guys try to escape my praising right? Yeah, that's weird. GonNa. Ask you nicely for the third time to please stay here. Yeah, just consider the gate off limits. Yeah! He's. Good I hope somebody tries to escape just because I want to watch all, read do his thing and we want to stay sharp. What. When do we think this is happening? I mean let's bring that. I am thinking. It's in the thirties and forties again or snow, forties or fifties again. Reasoning cool hand, Luke. Luke takes place in the fifty s dry But I think that's that's what I'm getting. That's what I'm getting at here. Like that's what I'm feeling. More contemporary. No but well the thing that may thing that it's funny. How just one thing here makes it feel tiny? Right. Get my lantern. Hey Lanterns being used post like I. Don't know eighteen, sixty two, or whatever right probably flashlights now we have like Jane cars with huge spotlights on them and helicopters and stuff, but this is just guys. You know bloodhounds running guys running through the through the woods with shotguns and lanterns, trying to track down a guy in a white. Suit with black stripes on it right right. My lantern. We have a whole cabinet full of flashlights. Those yeah me I turn. What did I? Say like the Classic Look Lantern. Yeah this was more contemporary. It would definitely be about like would be like a helicopter drone or something ready. I took care of the words thrown to. Love it. Larry Aside I love that drought me that we snuggle up at night. Is, but we just clicked. Yeah, the funny thing is. He thinks he's still thinks he's up baby drone. Band? But a silly. Coronal go after the ball, but it won't bring it back yeah. The trump thinks he's people. So. Yeah, so get my land or get my gun and rental have treated before the morning comes now. TREAT IS A. Phrase, you may not be familiar with, but that just means that the dog's chasing you run up into. The tree tried to get away. And you can't get back down because the dog he's is right there, so you're stuck in Trie and that's that's where the warden with his lantern is going to find you and bring back. Bring it back to the prison. Yeah, and then you just jump into the next tree. then you just jump into the next tree right? Yeah, like a squirrel. Yeah, it's short. That's right like applying squirrel. That's one you. You didn't think of one thing in. I'm the Flying Squirrel. Get, you next time rocky. The Guard and Data letter to my cousin up in Tennessee. Heat brought down a blue tick, Kale. She was thirty s she could be. In the swamp bland about a mile, just south of the gate. Not Too gory. Not. Dropping malls. And signed. This was this the partner Song where the dog thing did throw me. For a loop right was like. Okay Okay I. See where this is going one of two ways. He's friends with the dog. So either he'll escape, and the dog will track him down and it'll be like dramatic irony that his one friend is the one who turned him in, or he will escape. The dog will come down, but the dog will go. Yes, their friends right around Fox in the situation. But. He does the dog does let him go, but not because they're friends. Right by the end, but yeah, I was like okay. Okay Blakey I know I got you. I, know where this is going. Then when the next verse starts, and it's like well I paid off the guard I slipped out a letter to my cousin up in. Tennessee and he brought out a blue tick. How'd she was pretty she could be. This is the second time was like. No I don't know where this is going. Yes now I mean we're just openly talking about corruption here. I paid off guard short. Blow and ripe pass that another major crime. We're not not saying that he's innocent. Just Oh, yeah, that's another. I committed Go right past that paid off guard. I slipped out a letter to my cousin up in Tennessee. just what is real quick I understand everything is relative, but speaking as a longtime northeasterner. The phrase up in Tennessee seems to be. Right but. of Dentistry Sorry Blakey. I think you have that wrong. Tennessee is down down as you can go, you can. Go Up! And, he brought down a blue tick. Hound what I mean I. I know what a Hound is. Right blue tick how it feels like. Something, you just know if you live in the south would would've. Out Is. Yeah, I think it's just differently. You said like there's just a lot of different kinds of hounds that I don't think. I I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between but I think it's. It's not a bloodhound old. allred I'm assuming as a bullet wound, right? blue tick count think look slightly like up winter. but I don't know. I'm pulling that straight out him. But. Yeah, that's where most of the on the show comes from. So that's good. That's right. That's right. It's a IT'S A. Breed of Hound. Thank. You thank you, thank you so much. Appreciate it I I like the pictures. I'm looking at right. Now are super cute. Oh. like black and white and. Me The pictures of the dog? The pictures are in colored dog is black. A wait a minute. No everything's black white, never mind. Color? I also like the idea of slipping out the letter. To the cousin and him saying she was pretty as she could be, so my assumption is that the letter read something like this. I'M GONNA. Break Out. Bring me a girl dog of no agos. Like all right I know just. Think well, okay, she's a looker. So. Two things first of all that had not occurred to me that you are correct where? The letter must have specified look. Bring down a girl dog, but make that make it a really attractive sexy. Because I need to get old bread distracted so that. My hope is that he didn't tell cousin the entire plans, so he's just bring a really attractive. Because it says you know what I don't WanNa, no. No, it's fine, whatever I don't WanNa know yeah. Mostly without me. They're mostly used to hunt raccoons. Right got but they're also known for They're very friendly. Dogs, yeah. This one was very. Very friendly if you know what I mean. Just a heads up for you guys. I'M GONNA, check out right now and just read up on. Blue Tick hounds sure you got it. We'll we'll we'll? Back! I'm going to spend always been the rest of the episode. This looking at pictures of puppies they're very get have they got floppy ears? Although I, guess all hounds do a floppy ears rate. WAS A. Puerto bloodhound think so yo lot out. super-flop announced got really because you WANNA. Know why this is i. mean this is a weird. You know our. We've really gone on a on a tangent, but the reason is the reason. bloodhounds ears are so long that so that the sweep on the ground they kick up the dirt and that way they can get more sense into their. Stop and smell more and get more ideas. That's why they're so good at. Tracking things down right so it's not in their nose. It's own their ears so on the years bit. All in the ears, so here's the other thing. he's, he says. Brought down a blue tick town'd. She was as pretty as she could be. I feel like this is the thing that. Does occasionally happen. where, so I think human beings can look at a dog. It'd be like Oh that's a. that's a very nice looking dog. Right The Doug has an aesthetic that I is a human being can appreciate But how does he know that? The dog is attracted to other dogs? Right and I feel like this is the thing that again in stories does occasionally come up where it's like. Oh, I! Bet You I bet. This dog really wants to get with that dog and you're like right, but how do you know that? They had a lot of long walks together. They. MET Like allred! What's your type? Let me, tell you what I'm looking for in a female dog. Yeah. It's just weird that he can identify like Oh. Yeah, that is a dog that's going to be very attractive to Male Dogs I. Can just tell I as a you with being who should not have any attraction to dogs and should know this. Could tell that other dogs would like also by the way. I don't know how dogs decide, but I think pretty much. Dogs are pretty okay with any dog. I don't think they're like the you know again I. Don't think other dogs are like no goes dodgy like agos. Pro. What whatever you got I'm fine with it. As long as I am ready and she's ready. Does it really matter. And also, because blog, bloodhounds are really really. To me as a human being, I mean they're adorable in an ugly way, but they're incredibly wrinkly, so I wonder in the dog world are bloodhounds considered ugly lake, or or is that to a dog? Consider attractive. Just. I don't know but I'll tell you what we're on a slippery slope no well. But. This is my voice. Dogs, but this is what I'm saying is that I again, is he? Being cannot tell. What another dog would find attractive. I mean the bloodhound here as looking at the picture I mean this looks like the Ron Perlman of the dog world right? This is a really big. You know a lot. Cut Face with a lot of character. So maybe that's something that a female dog would be into but I. don't know because I. Don't know what is. So my point is that it just seems like a weird line for him to specifically say that the dog is beautiful, and that other dogs would be interested in the in the beauty of this dog. That's odd transit, well, he he says that she's as pretty as she can be right, which as an expression like? As an English language expression, it does mean yes. She is pretty yet, but really think about it like issue pretty well. She's pretty she can be. True and she knew. Right, you know she's fine I. Mean Look doesn't have a lot going for her, but you know and blue tick counts are famously egos, so, but she's as pretty as you could possibly be considering that she's a Blue Tick Hound. Okay, so they penned up in the swamp land I. Don't like this so I got a couple of questions. They penned her up in the swap land about a mile. Just southgate. Okay, first of all. It's someone watching this dog she's. Swaps I was wondering item so I'm hoping that the well because. Hangs out. And so. Has Still Man because at the end he's heading north towards Tennessee so my hope would be that. The cousin is hanging out to help him escape okay. Cousins on all of this. He's camping. He's camping out. It's fine. With the, he just made like vacation of it. He had a couple days off right. Yeah, you know what I could get away from Tennessee for a little bit now is this. How long does this plan go on for months? No, it doesn't seem like it's months seems like it's about a week because he says He says he got used to seeing him for a seeing lady every night. in the next verse won't skip ahead, but it doesn't seem like it's. Months it seems like it's maybe a week. Maybe a wave maybe only sends out the letter than the cousins get the letter, and then there's probably correspondence back and forth, and then he has to get to Georgia. Those parts are but I mean if he's right on the Florida border, maybe I mean if I was the cousin, but at least a couple of days and Disney. But then you're talking about just the dog part right? Yes, Saddam aren't saying doctor. It's a week. Well. He's been. That's zillow ably. We don't know how long it's been walk in old. Read right COSMAS, emily, there was the first part of that where he secured the old red job as walk drain. Daddy's ends laboratories cousin cousin comes down with the dog, so yeah. I was just wondering how long it from from the moment. The Blue Tick Hound was in the picture. How how long are we talking? To a A week ten days okay, I don't think it takes a long time to get. Comfortable all I agree. I was just wondering. The and listen. flaky is smart. He has probably been walking the dog south each time. He's been walking allred south each time so that he gets used to going that way anyway, and then he's like Oh what we have here. If I go so then I always see this lovely lady dog, okay? The submit blue to count is just waiting for him down in the swamp lands. About a mile south gate. And I take a red for his evening run. And just drop them off and wait. you know what he's waiting for? I as Snoop Doggy Dogg. One said you just like my doggy style. Is that's what's happening in the swampland literally literally? Readily so yes, that's happening now i. feel like they took some time. They got to know each other. He puts on the Johnny Mathis records. It's all good. Ratio. These dogs were in love. Right. Dan loves the. Extinct. I just wanted to know that you're gonNA. Respect me in the morning. Old Read that's that's the thing. Over and over play the Song Lady Right now I do I also want to be clear like he is both a prisoner and we're assuming again. That's probably the fifties so I mean he's I. Ever smartphone, so he is literally just standing behind a tree while two dogs. DEWITT swats very clear. In this song. Two dogs are going to town and I. Don't mean the power that keep the dog. Power town in a swamp while Blake I'm hoping he's not just staring and watching moping at the very least he's turning around and watching the sunset. And Was Dixie or something. In him that he had that, he is yeah. He's being a gentleman about it. Everybody he did murder his wife. Her lover. He brings his game boy in Reader's Digest. He's good. One of those little like foldout screens. They said up. and. You know. Okay so the war once again says come on somebody. Why don't you run? It Itching Absent Fun, get my land or get my gun ready. Have you treed before the morning comes? Is the warden saying. Let's just say this year. Old redheads, some fun, oh! Yeah, it's a plot. Yeah, he did a good point. Reds doesn't need to be changed in prisoners to have little fun. Nowadays what I was GONNA ask? What is the warden saying this to the prisoners like every day like he's just like? Hey, how about you? How you want you try to run. because. I have no intention of running. Stop. Stop saying this. We're in the middle of a kickball game. If. You could just chill out with the whole. Why don't you run? We're doing things. We have other things on our mind. That's fun for you, but we're just having fun playing kickball. You know I think. allred is a good boy. Why would I run away from him? I'd run towards allred we. When you ask who wants to give already treat today. All our hands go. He's the best part of this prison. That's why we have a treat chart. So who's turns it? Give already trip whoever whichever team wins in the kickball game that means they get to give read etry, so that's what we're playing for the highest stakes we can possibly imagine. Having read a train padding on the head and saying good boy. Okay, we love read. Both kickball teams are named the old read certain. That is that is the amount of respect. We have for this dog. We would never leave warden. It's can. But. We don't care how much we love this dog. Warden everybody wins. What an I was paroled three years ago and I'm just hanging out. To hang out with old brand. Eye. Legally leave and I. Feel not doing now rid. Get real used to seeing. His lady ever nine. So Camp Tim away for three or four days in waited till the time gotTA, right. Room with the sun and a smile when a hurdle term ran out. North to Tennessee? Headed Overthinking this is about ten days. I WANNA say this. Speaking of Shawshank. This really makes me think a lot less Vandeweghe. Because his plan took at least a decade, right to dig that tunnel right into the sewer He Kinda just befriended a dog at apparently escaped. It's true bad on you and I mean you could have been out of there in less than a month. And he He knew an old guy with a crew with a crow, right? He could've you know yeah. Crow Sex. Why not? Let's get it? Let's get it on So? Yeah, so I waits. The time was right. Well I made my run with the evening Sun. And I smiled when I heard him turn red out to what is that? Me I guess they're letting run. All Alarms Iron. Let him go there like Oh, my Gosh, okay! Leaky escaped, dare he? He was so cool, okay? We were supposed to be partners underlying agrees. Read out to play doubles tennis with me now. Says the warden okay I was thinking he was okay okay. I understand because I was thinking. He was taking read for a walk and ran no I see! They let run. They let read go to chase him. I'm heading North Tennessee alright is was heading south as he sees lady friend okay. Okay, okay can I ask a question? Always 'cause if I haven't heard this song, I thought it was like I'm head north, but old red is heading south. If you know what I? Mean? You think there's a double entendre there or it's just that he's going south. No I think he's going southbound. You're under percent aggressive so. First of all I don't know where you're getting the idea that I have a perfect. Let's talk about dog attracts net for ten more minutes, but second of all. I don't think this is odd me because again, I am listening very carefully this. Story is this is a song written by Mr Blake Shelton. That's all about dogs sex. Don't throw it back on me that I. The pervert here Okay I. Am a victim of this song. You're saying so. Don't go on. That's all I'm saying okay. Okay, so he's heading south so. Reginald. Just because he wants to see his girlfriend and Blake talking, but here's the thing. They said that red could track a two day all trail. Right right, so I mean he could be done in ten minutes and then back on the case you know what I mean. This is right I mean. Admittedly, Blake will get a little bit of a head start, but if you can if he can track two days old treadmill I, don't think it's foolproof, but I do think that it combines a couple of the things that we were thinking about which is. A He knows that Blake set him up. Like Blake would be the best man at their dog wedding. You know like so. He's probably doesn't care because he's like well. Who Am I? GonNa, Chase the guy who sent me up with my lady. I'm not doing that. This is the best thing that's ever happened to me I was a bunch of dudes all the time. This is great. I think that's witness and Look I. Love the guys in the prison, but there are a little thing I, mean they're concert, I mean. All kickball teams are named after me. They're constantly petting me and giving me treats. That got rolled for a while ago and still has them leftist. Hang out. There are a little clingy is saying I love him I. Love Them, but it's it's a bit much. It's A. Dog Live up to those expectations. Right. And I think the other thing is I think that allred knew that he went south. He's head in the direction of Disneyworld. That's honestly where the whole lady and the tramping could absolutely. Sure definitely, yeah, that's what he said was I'm had really just wanted Spaghetti. I think yeah. Okay, so Blake's head north density allred was heading south. and the warden sank. Come on, somebody. Why don't you run? allred's itching to have some fun well. allred again having some fun, but maybe not the way we're thinking. They're not the fun you want him to have. Warden Jim I land here and get my gun ready. Have you tree before the morning comes now? There's a little CODA here. Love it in a punchline because he says matters red haired blue, ticks all in the South love gone me in here in low guide me. So Red Hat himself quite a brood. Lady friend they're. They're like literally. They're all over the south. At this, they're like pass like an invasive species. There's this hordes of hundreds of them traveling across the Tennessee. And Georgia countryside just like eating. You know entire farms where the food. Just destroying whole neighborhoods. It's a nightmare But all over the south, and then you're comes to the punch line. This is almost like a riddle. The answer was man all along, but now the punchline is love gummy in here. And love got me out on. Here. Here's the say what you want. That is a great long well. Yeah, but here's the thing you. You hear that you'll like being here. Love got me out. A wait a minute. You murdered yeah! I'm sorry, yes, and now you're an escaped double murderer A. You know what? This was very quaint until. Any thought behind it. Yeah, yeah, you. Forget the fact that like Oh this is so charming. No, you've killed people, yeah. Yeah! You killed people. You have blood on your hands you are. You are literally murderer. You know even even if those people were wrong. To Commit Infidelity they had families who you know. They had parents who had a bury their children. I mean my God Blake. Jeez Louise is horrible, but anyway it's pretty hilarious. He got out of prison. And I'll tell you what what plan what went to tried to just run, but no. Cool sophisticated Blakey. You really came up with a plan. You're really thought this out And you know what I feel like. When they when they figured out that he left unlike what he had done I'm guessing the ward went. You know what I can't even be mad. So cool. Let him go friends. Is just the coolest missing so much. Mural about him. All right anything else on the song. Let's do expanded universe. Thank. I mean here's what I. Know, you're glad. While I was GonNa, say, could this possibly be up script to Delilah? Okay intriguing. Because right, he like you know. My my Delilah, right right? Yeah, he murdered two people. Yeah, OH, okay! Yeah, then. Yeah, say that he's Delilah. Enter her her lover. A we did did, did he? I, know he murdered Delilah, but but I'll say this. It doesn't say whether or not Blake murdered both of them it just. Doesn't say whether or not Tom Jones murdered both of them. Right, so okay I think, and we know Delilah same, but we never get the narratives name in Delilah right now so I'm GonNa get the name here either so yeah, I'M GONNA say! Named Him Blake. But Yeah I'm going to say that the same person. Great it makes it I mean it could also be because you know else's in prison for murder. Little sister well no not little sister. Oh No, but he's killed right. They put him the deck. Never mind. I think that back the. Georgia, but all right I mean it all adds up right. But. Don't they got away? But, don't they put? She says then she say he was killed. While the I mean the song. That's the night that they hung innocent man. They hung right. That's right. That's right. Okay, never mind, forget forget that part. This is an alternate the night. The lights went out in Georgia. Yeah, right well I was GONNA say could be an alternate ending to folsom prison blues. Orton or just or he's just upset. I like to think the Johnny cash at some point to the news got around about this escape. Plan and Johnny cash was like man. Thinking about trains for dogs is the answer. I mean this the. Take a letter Maria. Okay I'm interested to hear. Okay Maria are not Maria The wife in that song was cheating So maybe what's his name Arby? Sent a letter to the lawyer. you know saying that? He was divorcing his wife, but he actually murdered her and then he went to prison, so he runs, so he runs into the office Stick with me. Johnson covered in blood. He turned to a secretariat. Says take a letter so I can send it to my lawyer to say that I'm divorcing my wife also don't win our home like. I! Don't know what Mike I don't. I don't know if the timing is exactly right but I think I think all the elements are there. I just want to say for the audience at home. If you're listening to this I'm on the show and I'm confused so. Don't worry too much about to figuring out hey. This is an anti connection, but you know he didn't talk to. Shaggy. Because they were like. Wasn't me? Why friend wasn't me well, I don't know what he said. It wasn't him so well. Mr Mr. Sheldon it's been nice speaking with you. Thank you for everything. He said it wasn't him so. Once. You say that there's nothing we can do about it Cool yeah, I definitely feel like I. Mean I think also Pretty Prison Blues I think somewhere in there. There's I mean 'cause I some is in California. This is in Georgia. We know it can't be johnny cash because we know. He shot him in arena just to watch him die, but but still they probably cross paths at some point. Right I bike I assume like all the prisons of a big like Mixer A. What's in the middle of the country like Kansas? They just get all the prisoners together at Kansas and just have like a big. You know Inter prison mixer so everybody can get to know each other so. Christmas party retreat like a corporate retreat. Going again, so everyone get to know each other a little bit better and see other outside of prison. You know I can make some connection, so yeah I I agree yeah Christmas party, or like a corporate retreat or something like that. That probably happened so all right I wonder if the lady dog was named Fancy Leading talk about the lady dog. What? What if? Like. The entire song fancy is in fact about adult. Like. Gosh. You guys like we have really gone down. The universe they live in like a shack. So what if it's like a dog house? and. They've been abandoned by their owner and they have to scrounge for this. I'm GonNa work on this, but this is making a lot of sense to me. I like a lot although she's just. Go Ahead Dog Dress that doesn't make. This is basic. New Orleans. Oliver and company. Twist like this is what this is, which fit the story? It's just not making any. I know so I was I was positive that I was about a dog prostitute that has addressed and my problem was well. They do say it's new. Orleans oh that's the one factor. Wrestling out. Let's. Let's let me ask. Were there any jazz singers in this? Is, no, no, no yeah, I was GONNA say line. Let's let's. Know Pearl. Yeah! Let's mercifully take a break at this point. And when we come back, we'll talk about all of this made sense. The history of this song would start story. Hi I'm Dietrich I'm Alex. I'm Ben from the podcast that song from that movie, Jennifer the very best and worst of movies songs. We want you to join us on our voyage. Cinematic sound waves as we take a deep dive on a new song each week to figure out just what makes tick already. We've set sail with Selene on on the titanic found a friend in toy story, and got drenched out in the rain with Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, hopefully each breakdown. Answer the ultimate question of what's better, the movie all the song. Wins have been away way. Just like learning that toy story. Fall is a meaningless cash. Grab without. You can subscribe right now in Oakland podcast platforms if he's one of the bathrooms. Then that's on you and we copy responsible. Subscribe to that Song from that movie. Hey guys welcome back. It's time for story behind the story. How did this story come to be Rachel? Yeah? Tell us well. Of all. The version we're doing. is the Blake Shelton version It was written by James Bo Bo. Hawn Don Goodman and Mark Sherrill in Nineteen Ninety for George Jones. We'll get into that later, but this version it was released March eighteenth, two thousand and two It was on Blake Shelton's debut album. And it debuted at number sixty on the hot country charts. It was number one on bubbling under number fourteen on hot country songs and its certified platinum It's a big song but the song itself like I, said was originally written in nineteen ninety, which is weird to me because it seems like it's much older I when you started nineteen. It was going to be one, thousand, nine, hundred, fifty, two, or so rank search. Yeah, it it was like I, said, originally written for George Jones who's a very famous country singer for his nineteen ninety album to be with me. It was not released as as a single That's why we're not doing that version. And the somebody who commented? Oh. Maybe this might have been me, but no I think I read somewhere that somebody wrote. This song tells the story. If you like George Jones, you will like this one. You're right. It's true that's true. I mean I, mean he? He sings at country. He's very much like the like the Blake Shelton version. But. It was also covered, so we gonNA say something. George Jones has one of my favorite story signs that will probably never do on the show because I'm not quite sure how we would get into it, but you guys familiar with. He stopped loving her today. No Oh look up. He stopped loving her today. Great Great Stories! and I can't even T- like it is the the rare story song and we had this recently that I can spoil. So I can't even tell you what it's about you just have to listen to. It sounds good. Autumn's sounds good. So George Jones. Obviously you WanNa, take a break from looking at puppy photos. Right when we listen to us. Guys back. Like Hey guys real quick I have adopted seven blue tick. I have a small apartment in New York so I. Don't know where I'm going to put them. Guys I'm not allowed I'm in real trouble here I. Travel. So the song, so George Johnson was in nineteen ninety. It was also covered by the gambler himself Kenny. Rogers won't his ninety three album. If only, my heart had a voice. Again, not released as a single, but the the Kenny Rogers version had a much more pop feel to it. you know ninety s Kenny Rogers. I guess a little more poppy Of course, the most popular version is version by Blake Shelton and this is the only one that was released as a single. Yes, yeah, this is the only one that was really Susan single because I tried to look for information about the other two. And I couldn't find much because they were not released a single, so there's no billboard charts. There's nothing like that. This was his third single off of his debut album titled Blake Shelton. it became a quickly became a top twenty hit and became a a fast fan favorite He considers it a shelter this his signature song. And how much does he consider it his signature song? He has opened a chain of restaurants called old red. That's right. There are three allred restaurants. and. How much does everybody involved in this song? Love this song well. There's a website dedicated to it, allred online. Who and Don Goodman runs it and he has a novel based on the song and I think he's working on a movie based on it I. Mean Lovell. Will Be. You can buy a novel on the website. Merchandise I mean allred is a it's. It's an industry. People allows an industry. It's unbelievable I. Love Dogs while people love John. P nobody cares about the whole story. People care about the fact. There's dog called allred eleven, and you can put its face on stuff. Racial, you can eat a blooming onion, but it's called old red onions area. Kit at the end of this. We're democratic if you can email me the old red locations. I know we're currently in lockdown Corinthian still going on, but when it's over I, would love to actually hit all three. Because you guys know when I go out to eat, there is nothing that makes more appetizing for me, and I want to think about more while I'm eating than docs having sex, so this really works out perfectly for me because I'm sure that's what everyone wants to be thinking. That's to name a restaurant. After a song of bows, dogs doing a swamp because that's GonNa. Get people through the door. Your restaurant makes a lot of sense me. Yeah I mean. Listen. Is just giving the people. WHAT THOSE SHORT! And the dodgers. Right so talking about making the song Mark Cheryl said we were was quoted saying we were fortunate enough that the good Lord put one in our hands. It's just something that when I play it at the floor Obama, which is A. Festival people come from all over the country to hear me sing the song. I, had two couples say that song save their lives and I wondered. What kind of life did they have? Dogs get on, you know I can figure. Is People love a good story? Wow! Maybe the song taught them how to break out of prison. Maybe maybe but people love this song. Do people who are involved in writing the song love it. The people who listen to it love it is a great song, a great song and it is a great song, and also I'm going to tell you about. I'm not a big. I guess we'll be considered new country. Fan Yes, but there's something about Blake Shelton and we'll get into a little bit later, but I I just think he's the best. I don't know why I think he's just. He seems like a great fun guy and his songs are catchy, and it's just I don't know there's something about Blake, Shelton. I'm like okay. I like him can I. Can I ask a question? Because I don't I. Don't know anything about. New Country Let's call it. Occasionally something will come. Pass my radar, but otherwise I. Really don't know much about it I'm here. Here's GonNa. Say I know about Blake Shelton and you guys. Tell me if I'm wrong or right. He's a country singer. He sort of blandly handsome. He seems Kinda older to me like I would guess fifties hold on. And he's on. America's got talent. So you're so close, okay, many levels is on. Hold on hold on. Did he fall in love with Gwen. Stefani and they got married. So yes or so close. Okay? Literally all of those things and I will take us through that in a moment, okay. But that's okay, but yes, you're so. You're so close so close on all those fronts already To more like just two more things about the. About all about allred First of all. We talked a little bit about. Well Shelton said in a twenty ten national webcast. He explained why this one of his favorite songs. He said that it's so strange to me. That was the first song I ever found accidentally when I moved to Nashville, a held onto it for many years and had to fight to get it on my album once it got it on my album to fight to get it released as a single then it was another battle to get them to put. put it out as a video. Even though they liked the song, nobody ever thought it would something accepted and country radio, and by country music fans in general, I think they thought that type was dead and gone he said to be honest unsure either I just loved it that much thank God on the first album I was lucky enough to have two of the biggest hits of my career Austin, which also from that album. That's awesome. He said but. I think it just goes to show that the the weird thing is he also had to fight to make it a single, so no matter what for some reason, this song not nobody thought would be a single could be a single, so he finally was one of fought. My guess is that by Nineteen Ninety Jones was like I'm going to sing the song they're like. We're not GONNA release zingone. Joe Says I don't care what we. And then the ninety three Kenny Rogers. I'm going to sing. The song said. We don't think it's a single and he says I don't care I'm Kenny Rogers I. Just Sing any Song I want. I Have A. Single Kenny Rogers. I just got off a four week. Shoot on the Gambler five you. Think I I will sing. Singing is just my hobby. Hi I'm a legend and I'm. GonNa Sing what I want. Right I will say that I read somewhere, and I cannot hear I cannot find anything else I think that I think that. Don Goodman said this that it is based on a true story. All about all about stop stop okay. I wasn't fully listening based on a true story. So I! I'm sorry. I tried so hard to find information about this. Couldn't find it anywhere. I felt like I was in the middle of the X. Files I. It's the truth is out there, you know. But Anyway and then finally we talked a little bit about the video. And the video. If you think there's any subtext to the video or anything like that, the answer is now man. The video straight up tells the story. With with Blake. Shelton and his juries locks nice. Yeah, I watched. The video did not realize that early on his career. Blake Shelton had very long hair. He does I mean he did yeah. I thought I thought it was like. Is this? Is this part of the character? Not He just. Had you gotta remember. It's the early two thousands. Go you know well? Tell you a little bit about Blake Shelton I'm ready so Dan. Get ready for your first shock, okay? Tulleson Shelton was born June eighteenth, which by the way when we're recording. This is next week. happy perversely Blake. BIRTHDAY IF YOU'RE! By the way you're getting a bio on, Blake Shelton because I think downs the only person in the world who doesn't know much about him that thank you. Yes, yes, that's right. I. Say One thing. Hey Blakey! Good job having summer birthday summer. Birthdays are the best. So. Literally everybody on this podcast has a summer birthday so good luck done or I would say good job having a pool party. You're on your birthday. Man Go. Anyway. That's not the shocking part there on the shocking part for you is going to be that. He was born June, Eighteenth Nineteen, seventy six. Okay Oklahoma Okay all right. I was off by a little bit I. See what you're saying. That was close. I'm looking at right now. He does seem older to me. He seems like he's. He saw him pepper so i. Guess I mean what's been forties all right. Right. Now you know, don't don't get me flustered. Okay! Sorry, Talk. Show he he grew up in Oklahoma in eight Oklahoma which is where one of the allred's is at by the way, an online national at age seventeen linked. I feel like many. Like many country stars do that I mean you go to Nashville obviously, but but young a lot of them go young right He was taken under wing of prolific songwriter and producer. Bobby. Braddock, who we've spoken about before, right? Haven't we? I don't think so I mean. Maybe I don't know I'm sure we will at some point them. But he made his platinum debut in two thousand one With with Blake Shelton, and included his first number, one single Austin, and then two more on the top twenty Austin was his first single, and it was his first number one. no now. His second and third albums went platinum respectively. Now here here this. He has had forty charted singles, twenty seven number ones and seventeen consecutive number ones breaking the record in country airplay history so. He is. Very basic. Is Building. He's a very big deal i. mean he has a? He's also not as a judge, said Dan floor, there was something called Nashville Star clashes choirs. Nobody remembers nobody remembers most recently the voice. He has been the one of the. Hosts are the judges for the voice for a number of years There is where he met Gwen Stafani. Who He is now quarantine together with alcohol and has been dating for a very since twenty fifteen They are not married to my knowledge I didn't get an invitation. Okay, but I just read would've if you would've I. Feel like I would've but they. But I just read something that since they're in the in quarantine that they are thinking about getting married once social distancing is released car. That feels like stalling, but whatever Their He said. He owns a franchise restaurants. Entertainment complexes. Guys did he meet Gwen Stafani on the show? Yes. Yes is. There gyp free. Thing right 'cause I mean durable. I guess maybe probably personally. They're not as different as it would seem from the outside, but I mean right, you know. She was a young Scot Punky was a young country singer. It's know they're from different worlds. Right. It's like Oh west side story. A little bit of A. There's a little bit of scandal to and I think because before he was dating Gwen Stafani, he was married to another country superstar Miranda Lambert of four years, and they dated for a long time before that, and before that he was married to a woman. Can. K. Net journ I don't know how to say that name but but so there was a little bit of stuff, but but something about him and wants to funny. It's just adorable. But. They recently Oh. Sorry starting so. He's got like like. I said. Three zero reds one isn't Dan. Write this down Coronas in tissue Mingo Oklahoma Okay One. Is it national and a third is in Gatlinburg? Okay? I don't know numbers. I wrote down. Three weird southern cities is that that's that's right. Okay, that's right. That's that's. So? Earlier this year a national radio station declared old red week leading up to when Blake Shelton gwen Stefani. We're going to perform at the Grand Ole opry And he was actually a inducted into Rantel opry in in twenty ten, or joined the Grand Ole Operating Twenty. Ten And since his two thousand since his debut, Shelton's received positive reviews from musicians and critics and the New York Times described Shelton as the most important and visible ambassador from Nashville to the American mainstream and rolling stone, referred to him as one of country music's biggest stars. Over the past decade he sold over ten million records worldwide. He just seems cool. Seems like he could get away with breaking bad prison. and. Befriending awarded I. It all adds up. You in so Rachel. You seem to feel the same way about Blakey. Thornton does I really like I was school. If I was awarded. I'd be like what you can hang out with dogs dogs. That door to door just could stay open. Should I close the door behind me? Warden No, you know what Blakey go ahead. You're fine. You're fine and most recently last week. He's been learning how to do tock dances so. I don't want to say I've been doing a lot of research, Blake Shelton since I came to the song, but here we are I know he's doing. Tick top stuff, okay? And now President Fan Club. That's right. I tried googling something. That did not come back with any satisfying results, but I was wondering how many restaurants are named after songs? Because I can think of three. Days Is that Donald Yet McDonald's. Old Macdonald. Right Ruby Tuesday. Ruby Tuesday night I don't know so. I was wondering Ruby Tuesday is a good one, okay. Cheeseburger in paradise. Also Margarita. Ville is two separate ones, and then sure, but I was just seems seems like a weird niche of restaurants named after song. That's all. That's all I got though I tried to find a list of, but I couldn't find anything. No one is no one has yet to right the. The. Not Huffington post the one that everyone hates. Buzzfeed list, thank you know yet rain. The buzzfeed list of all the restaurants named after songs but Here's the Macarthur Park. Okay? All they serve cake and it's always raining. We have one item. That was left out in the rain. Right. No, we can make you another one because we'll never have that recipe again. Oh no terrible restaurant of sorry. For the sons fantastic all right. I'll go back. All right anything else Rachel. That's all I got crack. Thank you so much for that. We're take another quick break. When we come back, we'll talk about the lesson we learned from this song with lessons aren't. Are you looking for a playlist of the hottest most bumping jams around. Well, we can help you with that, but we do have a spotify playlist of all the songs we've reviewed on the show, so if you'd like to hear that search for the story Song podcast the official playlist on spotify. Then you'll hear the most lit baller. Bops that go hard I can't read. All Right? Welcome back! It's time for lessons learned. What lesson from this Song Let's start with Michael Michael wits lesson to learn from the song. I learned where I'm going to be taking my summer road trip this year and that is to all three restaurants. Nice. Now. I'm super excited for it now so great so great of an till this episode. I did not know what my summer vacation was going to be The warden's lantern fries. Cheese fries, but you know. yeah. You get the old the Old Red Burger which is made with the gator and. I guess quicksand. Delicious Yeah we take the number three, please. Oh, that's the escape, yes. It'd been a quicksand shake. What's an ice cream and sand so? GonNa want to stay away from the quicksand chic. I learned that, if you. Suspect that perhaps your wife, maybe stepping out on you. First thing you do. Call up your cousin and say hey. Get like one or two the sexiest dogs you can find. Don't ask why. This is. GonNa make sense later. Trust me, Doug. Trust, me, trust me. There's a make sense later just again. The sexiest dog you could find and maybe like a backup sexy dog, just in case it's probably gonNA. Take me a couple of years. Okay, this plan and action so you know things happen. Yeah just fine like just go to like sexy dogs, rats and just get a couple of really sex. And start anyway start breeding hotdogs. And I'll call you back. All I heard was I need to make hot dogs. But I I'll call you back like three years. We'll figure it outdoor. We'll go to it then. It'll be fine. Rachel. What did you learn? I learned that? If you're going to commit a crime, you should figure out what what prison you're going to go to make sure it's the prison with cool ward in the you can become a buddy with because you know everybody you know you go to. When you're in school, you don't get the cool teacher you get the you know. The annoying teacher come on. I want to be in cool wardens class, so you just gotTa. Make sure you've got to do your thing is you have to do your research? You commit a crime, we you have to go on rate my warden dot com. or before going to jail, and making sure, that's right again. Making sure you have award, and who Lisa's like an eight out of ten on coolness gear. Find find the warden. That's GONNA. Let you break out exactly or at least play with dogs. Right exactly that. Are Right so much for listening. This has been the story song podcasts fouls on the socials. If you could like twitter instagram, facebook was five star review. Apple podcasts. We would appreciate it, and as always if you like the episode, tell a friend. Tell an enemy or a dog sexy. Cool warden all the war leaving reviews on apple podcast all the coolest. Guys so? Let's let again let a friend. No, we appreciate it and. Thanks for listening Dan Ackerman SRI. I'm Rachel looks. Catch you next time. Thanks for listening angered by. By by. Love. In here in. God me. 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Knockouts and 3 Counts  Episode 149 Lindsay Snow : working for AEW,WWE, and NWA in the same year, Winning Bloodsport, First Tattoo story

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Knockouts and 3 Counts Episode 149 Lindsay Snow : working for AEW,WWE, and NWA in the same year, Winning Bloodsport, First Tattoo story

"You're listening to the podcast detroit visit. Www dot pastor troy dot com before information. Everybody's the amanda germany's worst day right here to do knockout. The three counts of remember. Every this is don western. I'm telling you knock knockout to three couches. The podcast bathing mixture. That's when you check out because buddy like me. They're the real dale a the snake roberts that we know we need to listen to the shoot at dance. This is a ring of honor. World television in aka. Shane t or the baddest champagne. You've ever seen boy when you listen to knockouts and three cup tile and you are watching knockouts and because and men do we got a damn good episode for you tonight as we are going to be joined by the american guide you lindsay snow fresh off her match on. Aew dark tonight against big swale. Corey fucker you don goodman. I'm doing pretty good. I'm starting to feel the The all holiday spirit around the house. Everything's going good. Kids cited man. How you feeling today. Hey man. I'm excited for this interview. i'm glad to be done for the day because let me tell you these customers at the mall fucking post office. We just gonna leave it at that. You ever hear the term going postal. That's it is a real thing just saying but other than that man. I'm doing all right. I'm definitely doing all right off of the banger. S weakened that we had between sunday. You had annexed t takeover wargames with pat mcafee and hint stepping into war games. And then on saturday we had passed the show. Jamal sweet dreams. Hail put in the work on oil s and there wasn't all these people talking about step up and all this and that and the other. I would say that he pretty well. Silence all of those rumors. Yeah that was I i had made note of it in our Conversations and stuff leading up to the fight but that was a there a huge step up for our boys mall in a man that he really perform and not only that he wa- he walked away with that extra bag. You got the extra bag for a. He didn't get the official performance of the night. But dana said he cut them an extra check and then on top of that s. p. decided he wasn't gonna quite hit the scales on the march. So we got a little bit. Os ps back to. So i'm sure he ain't too upset about all that i mean. Getting extra money is never a bad thing. I know you get. I wanna say it's like i want to say it's like twenty percent there that was it was a twenty percent fine on in that occasion. Believe it. it depends on how much the person actually mrs wait by. Sometimes it can go up as much as fifty percent of the leaf. I mean fifty percent. May you are hit. And then on the wrestling into things you had an x t takeover war games which first of all the women really came out and kicked ass in that match the finish of that match heaven. Raquel gonzalez powerbombed this chick in between the two rings through a table like that chick. I'm telling you mark my words you heard it here. First on knockouts and three counts raquel. Gonzalez is going to be like. She's going to be a player for them for years to come like corey. We get off the show. I'm a need you look this girl up. She's like six foot tall. Big stocky strong chick beautiful looking girl but athletic is shit for being big a bigger bigger. Ladyman bro. I don't know it was I thought that was dope. And then i want to get your thoughts. What are your thoughts on. Pat mcafee stepping into the cage so as previously noted on this show for all you past viewers of previous shows. A would probably know. I'm pretty big mac to show a fan. I watched it Daily show remote probably three times a week. Mostly catch a lot of the clips. But if. I'm not catching the clips. I'll watch a full show as well. He's just entertaining. Person really doesn't surprise me too much to see him step into that realm especially seeing how much traction. He's kinda gained in the last couple of months on his media end. I mean he's had a ton a high quality. Yes and stuff like that. So i mean he had triple h amish show a couple of months back and that kind of solidified his move in the coming in the annex t so so found it interesting to save the the less for all you. Guys that are jumping into the live lindsay. Snow is coming in. She's gonna be in probably around nine fifteen. If you guys got any questions for the american guide you please drop them in the comments. And i will get to them in this show So about the match. Br anybody that went into this thinking this was just going to be like this publicity. Stunt where pat mcafee was going to get in. And he wasn't gonna do anything or really. Take any bumps or anything like that first of all to be a double cage match. It's kinda hard to be a net match in a beat up to some degree like it's just kinda hard to do. But then you take the fact that pat mcafee climbed to the top of the fucking cage and jumped off the cage aright whether he got caught by guys or not the fact that he had the to get on top of that mitch and jump off it and then it got finished by him getting beat by taking the panama sunrise. He went through a table. So i mean look man. The man went all out for it. I mean you can't say much more than that. I think The right people one. I think undisputed era needed to win that I'm really interested to see what if he's going to do. You know coming out of this man like it's it's quite interesting because i mean obviously there's not a ton to report on i mean. Obviously he's got his hand in so many different irons the guy's got his show and all that stuff. But i mean. I definitely think that this isn't the last that we're gonna see pat mcafee in a wwe setting. You really think so. You think he. I especially after his performance last night. I don't i think we're going to have to see adam. Colbert's pat mcafee again. Okay okay i feel kinda has the happen especially with the way that match ended in pat doing a job. I feel you kinda have to. Let's he really did do a good job From what i had seen. He really did He's somebody that if he's gonna do it he's gonna do it. And he's very over the top with his personality in a way So that it doesn't necessarily surprise me. whatsoever that he's you know translated well into the wrestling route. He's got the he's got the balls in the mouth to prove it. So you know talking about the mouth to prove it man. We're definitely going to have to get into this a little bit more. Obviously like i said we're just a few minutes away from the american kaija lindsay. Snow joining us here. Live on the show tonight a pretty big night if you're a wrestling fan k. It's been probably about twenty years since we've seen any real invasion of any sort between companies back when wcw wwf with the holy. See w thing all that kind of stuff. Hey chris thank you for tuning and checking us out. Thank you for checking us out on twitter and like we said man. We're glad you're here to watch. Hopefully we can entertain you a little bit and like i said lindsay. Snow will be joining us very shortly. like i said though and chris feel free to let us know what you think man obviously big night for wrestling man. You got kenny. Omega is going to show up at impact. He had his world title match with jon. Moxley now corey. I know you're not you know it's been a year and a half that moxley's been champion. So he's been chant long long maybe not a year and a half but it's been at least a year so moxley goes in today's having multiple Title the francis at this point Don callous who self admittedly whether it was in new japan or whatever. Don callous is the Executive vice president of impact He's very close with kenny omega. Calls his nephew down calluses out. There at commentary comes out with the microphone. Real old school takes a bump gets the microphone to kenny. Kenny gives them no mic drop. Hits the pin. They dip in as they get out. They're telling us in all. Wait a minute wait a minute. We've got a special guest with us. Chris already common says he's looking forward to it and fresh out of her training. We've got the american. You ms lindsey snow. How the hell are you doing. I'm doing. I'm doing pretty good. No complaints here. You know it's a. It's a beautiful day in florida. I'm just. I mean we could trade you with this cold asked whether we got here. I mean it's actually like it's cold. Okay what is cold yeah. I'm wearing jackets cold. What temperature wise are we talking about. Okay you're gonna make fun of me because it's fifty four degrees you on the damn car thermometer. The way home is like i think When i got in a car it was like thirty three. Oh well okay. That's actually considering this year to right. When i when i when wrestles It was it was freezing temperatures. So tell me about that. We're fresh off your match on a w darkness. Your third week's strong here on ewn We'll start with the match at hand. Tell me about your match with big slow big soul somebody that we got to kick it with for a little bit in chicago while we were there at star cast three Right before she made her debut for. Aew so to see you guys locking up pretty cool matchup. What are your thoughts. Now that you've got the i man it was. It was unlike any other match. Never had before you know a getting to Get to be out there and actually like it. Showcase some Skills and strength as well. I feel like i had a pretty decent showing And then to be out there with soil to men late shifts. She's she's bad bitch so it was. It was definitely a hell. I you know and manley is wanted again. The honestly like she six. I want lightner. She's tough i got i got late make up for that you know they feels like a. I got something like that. I i got a late show her. You know to get like the best version of mea. You go ahead gory. I was gonna say you got to be the nail the next time you want to be the hammer but it sounds like yeah pretty much i mean you can always be always be the hammer is sometimes you have to be the down stroke. You know i'm. I'm for going to be a hammer so it's waiting to that moment where i get to. I'm really show girl lakewood. I made out so. Let's talk about that. So i know you've only been wrestling for a few years now and now you've got you've i mean you're making quite the fucking scene last time we talked to you you just. We're starting to get in with nwa. Now we hit a damn pandemic. You're over here. Winning the damn bloodsport showing up on raw underground showing up on a w dark wrestling three straight weeks on a dark. I mean damn you know. Like i was like when this pandemic starting i was like man like i really fought starting the year off where he in. w like. i thought like like this is a big year for me rate and then like the nimick happened and i was just like oh my god all lake all the gas. I had gone up this going belly. I was going downhill. You know like. I felt like i had. It was really really like straight shot. You know like things are going to work out. Everything was going to be great you now and then it happened and like you the break. It was just like so hard for so many months in lakes. Even try to well you know. So it's like i could tattoo. I can wrestle active play. Ju jitsu i was just like so sad like solely it. It was like it was really was really really hard on me. And i'm sure it was hard on like everybody. You know I'm just being honest. About how how it affected me but then link to To turn it around so they'd be able to turn around in in half these opportunities. Come knocking it was. It was like a dream come true. Just have josh. Promise day are you free. Wanna do you wanna do for again You know the like last year. When i did what's worse. He hit me up and he gave me the opportunity to make history had the first match ever bloodsport and then i come back the next year and when the entire tournament again make history again like i am the only champion of blood ford. There aren't any other champions of what's worse so it's like damn late as it's like it makes me. It makes me speechless. accomplishment from me because like you're honestly like the biggest accomplishment of my entire life and allows the lightly about it. You know like. I definitely like i. Cherish that accolade and I'm honored to be able to make history late so many times. My wrestling career isolate. I'm getting the these amazing opportunities. If people see these things and me that i've been trying to show people for the longest time and non. Now it's a is actually late coming to light and You know it's starting to pay off. You know how they hard work pays off so feel like it's it's actually like thirty two surgeries turnaround for me You know it just kind of amazing to start the year off so strong and that huge dip in the middle and then length finish this year off a now like this year i worked for. Nwa wwe and awa finish off the year. Having three really strong matches and I got death on sunday. So i'm like this is like i'm living my dream using like life. What is life right now and so while so you totally just totally dislike see. That's why i talking to. You is fun because you totally knocked right into both of the next things. I was gonna ask you anyways. So let's start with the first one and that's you know you mentioned you know in one calendar year you've worked with w w w nwa One blood sport so first of all with the way that. Nwa has been going. There hasn't been as much content out from them. What's the current status for you with nwa. Because i know nwea's working with a and all that kind of stuff. But i know they've been real silent so it's been cool to see you get to go do your thing everywhere else. But like you said you'd literally have liked crossed the gambit. How the hell did you manage while under contract with. Nwa to just be all over. The place did not under any kind of contract right now. I'm marie aged. I am i. I thought last we talked. We were just getting started with. Nwa so i didn't know if you were still with them or on. Well lay if the opportunity arises. i wouldn't necessarily to the wayside. You know what i'm saying. Like i love billy. I love gates worker. Nwa sigonella billy corgan. My boss whatever at lake Yeah you'd like. I love me. I looked at locker room Like all the people there lake so welcoming to me. It felt like you know like like. I like belonged there. You don't play kind of cool to see like those same people in the back at. Aws too you know. 'cause it's like mad lake is a so weird like keep saying keep running into each other and a just. It's just like Like that lake. Witnesses link sample whenever you keep seeing like the same people in subway tillich. You're doing it right. I can completely relate there. Yeah cool. I can completely relate with that to a degree right because when we were in chicago I interviewed ddp. And he just sits down like of us right and asked us to interview him and he'd looks up and looks down the signs and up and down up down so you guys are podcast. So you going to interview me. And i'm like well bet they i'm not gonna say no and it was crazy right because a week later. He was on austin show and they literally at him on the same shit that i had asked him like a week before. So i'm like all right well. I must've done something half ass. Okay because so my question to is so the other part to that question is okay. So we've talked about eighty w we've talked about. Nwa how the hell did the whole ww thing come to be. And what were your thoughts on the whole raw underground thing as a whole That was just like a really random staying that slate kind of a lap. Because that's saying that. I deserve it but yet it just like came about randomly and It was like one of those things like saying with. Were you know you're going to work doing your work now every day now and then you get a call one day and it's like hey these your dreams call with your it just like it just happened and like everything has just been Think about how all these things happening. And it's like it is crazy Keep doing the right thing you know. And if i just keep making like those moves than good things will keep happening so It was so random. When i when i got that phone call and like the phone call that like i had like been waiting on since two thousand seventeen when i try out. Oh shoot okay finally did something cool that like ends you or whatever and then Getting to be on raw underground. I just wanted to get up there. I just wanted to like. I was like manley lena. Here i got definite here. Do like please levy greenwich Equal could lay. I've already trained with marina investment and shayna and catch wrestling so at cs w in california and with john to at the ufc jam. So lake i. I've already trained with with those ladies in like i just felt like oh crap late raw underground was made for me. You know and then To to be there and then salihi have in brennan view one so bringing bad you know and then it's like a nope nope just it was thing about you. With blood sport he fell. Yeah at like the day. After i want. Let's work. They can't laurent ground supposedly like thanks. Thanks and i really wanted to do that. And we wanted to hang out again right. Forget chris is asking the comments for you to let us know where we can watch the death match that you have this sunday. Where can we find that at. Yep yep It's gonna be a breakfast from the soundbar in orlando and It's it's gonna be so sick. Who was that. Who are you taking on the death. Match o neil cutter neil diamond cutter. I did see that that's going to be interested in neil. It's thank he's sick. I knew that lake. He's got hardly you know he's the honey badger. So it's like manley. He gives like no he doesn't know whereabout the duty to each other in bentley. I'm pretty sure that we're both going to be a mess afterwards. I'm gonna need a couple of days. I was just going to say. I see i see you sign up for it so you must not be too shy away from the whole inner gender matches and stuff like that but i just want to kind of get you to elaborate a little more on your you know your thoughts of it all. I guess especially being the fact that it's a death match to that just kind of look ups the ante that much more feel it. Early does You know weapons at one thing but then like when you're getting in there with late late tubes doors and like panes of glass and like tax nails doors filled with nails and it's like maybe i fell in love with death matches late last month. The aren't what i'm so stoked on it. I hit my family. isn't really super stoked but i started doing death matches. Imagine he's still make a habit of matches. I'm like icy. Like i'm like oh actually sat as a weapon i use. That is if you don't like walking around nights shot. Will i am every great nor people look at. You know like kitchen utensils and stuff like that us from utensils and i'm like all what did you know like my mansingh early or whatever. I made this crazy weather. You know so. It's like I guess there's something wrong with me. It'll ragle. I said dr dre dark creativity to come through a little bit. You know a little bit a little bit. It's just like It's like a wrestling that i haven't had a the lake. The biggest Part of yet. But like i want to show people that leg. I don't necessarily. I don't be lake. I can't do this type of match. I can't do that type of match. I want to be seen as versus. Oh i want to be seen as yet lake. She's a bad ditch like she'll messing up her late. I don't want him just be looked at lake. lake actor. Because not acting. When i took this is just me. I feel like a lot of people that like gets you on. The lake. Seamy compete get to see what happens in the rain. Which is it might be a little bit more intimidating. if you got into jitsu positions. But i've had people started up like ask what happens to my like. Meanwhile i'm like going in competition And that's basically what you get when you see me on. Aws in competition. I'm so focused right there lake. That's that's what you get. You know your. I just showed up there. I just want to give you wanted your shit in the ring well. In the comments past guest barr show the dread king. Logan is shouting. You are talking about. How much of a fan. He is of your entering stuff so clearly clearly. You're doing something right before we get to what everybody wants to hear about. Obviously stuff you've been doing with the a w stuff. You talked about something else that you and i need to talk about. So we talked about tattoos and your artistic side and all that for those of you. Who don't know we had the whole thing. Set up to where devon we're going to come down there and get tattooed wrestlemainia weekend but then fucking covid hit and that changed everything bomb radiant the whole thing like i had a whole plan of what i was going to have. Somebody like shoot it while you tattooed s and we asked a couple questions do some different shit but of course not it had to ban but My question with that is. I've seen i've been getting to do a lot more artistic stuff. Obviously all of us have been kinda stuck in with this quarantine and all that kinda shit. So what have you been up to during corzine to satisfy that artistic est while obviously still keeping up with your wrestling so i started a gilding wishes like a like a service so a lot of time spent doing fine painting in like window aging like The tattoo shop that i worked at zephyr hills and the shopping. I work at now. Jacksonville autographs and yeah. Like i've just been working on that why i also started using some people call it a cricket but i can night cry. I think that's better but it's like this little Like a basically water and You can cut. He championed vinyl with it. And that's actually. How been making my entrance here. So what you seen wearing on. A w dark might tracksuit jacket. I need all that a like. The back patch says our in. It's got a i. G godzillas face included on numbers. Lachey logo play precisely. Hide you and the like pride you on my On the front of my sleep on hand. There's like florida. And then like my autograph bookshop broach. The shop logo graph logo. And then like. I think i put like a rolex rolex logo on like wristwatch and hidden stuff like all over. There's little snowflake on aug Yeah i've been. I've been using a making a lotta tracksuits lately. But he turns her vinyl link drawing designs stuff in just like printing out actually made alex garcia. I made her sweatsuit the other day. So i've been like like a dream on it. It's got cute little heart like it's it was pretty fun but Like the art. The things that i've been doing. I mean i'm doing still pretty much lake. It's almost vacuum normal like You know we have the we have to like make our greatness Like a time of art so that we have laid timely sanitize and stuff like that so they are not having make my own schedule back. But i obviously can't handle at schedule right now with all the wrestling that i have on on the training that need to be doing though it's leg I don't know. I'm pretty pretty evenly balanced right now I like a lot of people. Look at my my workload and be like what like. When do you sleep and answer is. I don't flee so we got a question for you in the comments. Chris wants to know. Do you sell any of your designs. Oh yeah totally like. If you wanna get something made by me to late If you want like an original or something like that you just gotta let contact me and We can talk about like the details and stuff like that if he wants something like john or you or a loved one for like christmas or something like that and like i delivered cuts to which is basically like I like paint on like a piece of wood and like cut it out with a saw and stuff so like a lot of weird stuff. All the time like i'm just constantly like making southlake worthy dopey shit comes from though did hobby lobby. More than y'all's grandma's okay mandalay's in craft store. We kick it all right so speaking of tattoos. What was your first head to. Why did you get it. And how old were you. Okay so i am. I was bad kid. Ide- on the ground at school and it just so happened to look enough like me that i left during lunch. That day ended at you. When i was fifteen years old badly by personally whole tax you actually myself previously like religiously. It wasn't like a real tax. You you know it can say or anything like that so and we don't go to bed about that because mine was fourteen but yeah it was a carbon his like i was a big nerd seal as bad kid atom of carbon because like raw carbon based life forms and for some reason. I was lake lego. Yeah that'd be awesome. I need that ellen. Like i went to lake. Show my science teacher and he was like what did you do. Yeah that was my aunt makers said you experienced like my friend who was by a guy actually humiliate who've just recently passed away so it's really really sad. I'm just really thankful that. I got like become friends with this spirit. You know Turn is neat and Yeah is this like a little late total spirit. Is you know like you need people who are just like yeah thomas He's always late. Telling you like oil finds oil you know and it's true you know like whenever people just like get along so so well like you always find your your oil. You know so i don't know but i have my percents. You done by him and then link just be able to become friends with him. Later in life like no. I'm his late. The rest of his life was is pretty pretty Pretty crazy thing the all right so since i told you i had you be. I think it's only fair that i tell the story of my tattoo. It's because you train as well. I've been boxing. Since i was thirteen years old when i was thirteen. Boxing gloves the boxing gloves. I forgot all about the boxing gloves. Boxing the boxing gloves all right. So here's full disclosure. All right so on your old only reason why my mom let me get the tattoos. Because she didn't think i had balls enough to do it because i hated needles. She was like all right. Go ahead go ahead book the appointment. You won't do it. And it was the guy that i trained with and he was like you gotta make sure that your mom's cool with it. I'm not doing great so like there was the whole thing with that. And so we go there and we did it at his house. He lived in a trailer so we did it. There and me and joseph got tattooed the same day. And i got boxing gloves on my right on my right shoulder blade and it was the funniest thing in the world because like i. It's like the. I feel like everybody can agree on this. I feel like you're i had to has never your best head to unless you go to somebody who's like just note especially if you go to somebody when you're younger to now. I mean like one of those things. You're like oh shit. Nope i gotta a tattoo. Yeah and then. When i actually started to get like really nice stuff done. It's fucked up how you go back and you're like it doesn't look horrible but you see like the difference right the difference in the artwork quality and all that you dislike dari. It's the story email like now like Like my body is like super covered right now. So it's like you know as colleague louis spots left and it's like i really want to get something here there remember when i just wanna get something. My friends like people that i love. You know people that i care about and like just like little late late. I really don't have a whole lot of big spots left so it's like now i'm just like focusing on getting something hasn't story you know. So it's like i that's all. I care about lakers. Just wanna go do stupid shit with my friends. No i totally. I totally can relate because no matter what tattoos. I get even the one that i'll eventually get from you if we ever can get out of fucking corona. My favorite tattoo is always going to have to be the one on my bicep. I don't know if you can see it very well. But it's my grandpa's glasses. Like i had the guy. Sketch them off my grandpa's actual Glasses so that is always going to be my favorite one because it's ironic too. Because my grandma fucking was like your classic polack like everything like straight collar like. He was a funny son of a bitch. But man like when it came to like tattoos or like you know color in your hair different or whatever the whatever it is like. He was super like straightforward. So i remember when i got my first tattoo. I remember him looking at my mom. Like you're really going to let them go do that. Shit count and then to think that. Now i have a tattoo memorializing him on. My bicep always wondered what he thought. I would like to think that. All of the things i coulda chose. He had the same old man. Aviator glasses doesn't matter if he got new one or not. That's why i got that tattoo like you said it's the story right so i'm like i just want something that when i look at it or anyone. That knows him looks at it. They're going to look at it me like oh shit i get anyone that knew. My grandpa corey. You knew. My grandpa always had the johnny knoxville looking aviation and lasts like off all right. What one thing real quick since you kind of touched on kyle with your grandpa not necessarily being a fan of tattoos and since you're absolutely covered in them saying literally i'm struggling to find places place more. I kind of want to get your thoughts on what. What's the what's your thoughts on the world kind of growing more acceptable. It seems like the the grandpa's of Kyle or kind of starting to fade away and it seems like twenty thirty years ago. I'm sure somebody is even half covered. You couldn't even walk into a store without getting at thirty different looks nowadays. I'm sure you still get a quite a bit of looks but not even a tent. The group degree that it was before. I'm just wondering what your thoughts are. Unlike the social acceptability of like being completely chatted up at this point. So it's weird you know like i. I spend a lotta time in hobby lobby with the grandma's suffering zoli. This is like a couple of weeks ago. I wasn't hobby lobby. And this late odor ladysmith. Been like seventy five eighty something that she's like well. I know that tattoos arms are called sleeves. I get accepted. L. the answer a buzzer little. Artsy this okay. Yeah that's okay but it is. It is kinda strange though. 'cause like when i first started getting tattooed you know girls didn't have allies out to us and girls didn't really do tattoos. So it's like you know like super outlaw. for me to wanna to get into this and then lay Just like keep doing it Just like be warmer covered in the late. You know it's kind of like the same thing with you know like if somebody saw me putting on a mask where i went into like a like a like a ability or something that you wanted to obey. They see me putting on a mask. Only eight months ago got shot so now it's like okay. Cool yeah exactly us to you. Know so royal fluorocarbons has to use and all these old ladies are like trying to talk to you now. Folks like it's weird. How the world has turned late all backwards and way. I don't know it's like it's like a. It is becoming like way more socially acceptable to be taxi and more and more people are getting tax. You like at a order age too so if mountlake it's like young people you know i i've done a bunch of late. Order bugles first tattoos every and over seventy years old Skin like paper so to and i want them to lay their young again. You know it's it's all it's all. I got a matter of taste and personal views and stuff like that because like you know like i still get. I still people that. Do like to lake Kind of like. Try to judge the oblique. You know Like i've had a an order. Gentlemen on one of the scooters just like give me like the most disgusting looks like what are you gonna do when you're eighty you know and i'm like sitting at the now you're going you now across the us for their lifestyles choices. Know like you can always like have a better way to look at things and understand that like yes not everyone is gonna be on the same page they earn on with like what you wanna do with your body and stuff like that you know people just me for like going to the them all the time like how my muscles looking has you on the side of my head united judged all the all the time but like it's it's one of the things it's like People are weighing nicer to me. You know than a lot late on the internet especially because people can be so mean on the internet right because they don't have to actually talk to you personally. They can just like you know the computer screen like that. I've talked to. Yeah a lot of people that i've talked to you. Have you know have had a lot of really really here. It will people try to attack them online and stuff just because they're in the spotlight in on. I don't think that that's right at all. But for me I've had lake so many positive responses and i feel like that's wilde's covered in tattoos attached to serve as well in leg muscles and everything is really strange to me. I'm the person that people are you. You've got all these super cute like pretty girls like you got velvet you got. Danny you know and people's immune she to them all frigging time. And i'm just like how these girls are. They're beautiful. they're great wrestling. It's just like within like people got anything. Say to me. And i'm just like okay. He's scared of me because you should. But is that what you're a. I was gonna say. I took the words out of my mouth because corey and i have had this conversation so many times over the years because as i mentioned i've been training for a long time and as you can to. I mean i don't know what it is. Maybe this is just. I'm the guy side of things but for me. I always thought it would be dull to be dating. Somebody that trained. I don't know why just always thought that. I thought that would be cool. But it's one of those things where it's like like you said i don't know man i've been just suffer a long time. So it's like the looks that you see women get because they got muscles or because they can fight or because they got a black guy or because any of that shit. I feel like dudes that act all soft about that. You're scared because you're worried that they're going to whip your ass is what i think. That's what i personally think. I think i don't know it. Just that's always the vibe gotten off. It seems like they're more insecure with anything. But yeah that leads perfectly into something that i had to ask you after watching last week match the jihad with evil lease. I don't know if you peeped it but speaking tattoos when excalibur and tasr. We're talking about your tattoos. During the match it's sparked the fucking tattoo debate so in excalibur got shut down when i got a lot of data just can't see it so i'm gonna pose this question. In two different ways. Number one will go with the easy ones got inc. I if you tattoo anything on what would it be in. Wear and i'm pose you the same question day excalibur since he doesn't have any twos. I'll let you answer both of those questions. It will task actually I talked to him last week about getting tattooed. So we're gonna. I'm gonna just under put that one on the on the back burner and then you just have to see what happens with that. But i didn't. I didn't really show him that yet. The f. t. w. there be your biggest fan. Then all right just gotta hurry up and have somebody colors some orange in around interception just color as i am saying. Hurry up a couple of extra points. do you did. But like for for accelerate man lake. He would need excalibur tattooed on rate lake. The sword in the stone excalibur. I feel like it's either that or a mask. Yeah when yeah. What are the two either one would work. I think i'm like holy shit. This would be the perfect question to ask. Because i figured i can't wait to see what you do with the testing. Just because i feel like you're gonna end up putting some dope together with that. So i'll leave that one for you but i heard that i'm like oh shit. I'm sure she's gonna have some dope pass answer on this one's on me. I'm gonna leave this one out already in the works. Works that kinda shit. I'm talking about well. Now that we're on the subject of a w let me know a little bit about how that came to be now. Was that something because of the partnership that they had with nwa or were you already of cool with them like how did that come to be and what were the reviews you got. After the first week you were on there is clearly. They liked what they saw. Because you've been back two weeks six. Yeah man ain't been such an amazing experience Like i said like everybody ended up back is shell. It wasn't very random thing as well. You know like just like everything happens in my life but yeah it was just like timing was perfect I live jacksonville. And it is like they've been here for a minute now dislike manley. They on here. Did i know you. And then so lake i I reached out. And just you know. I was like a like. I don't know who to talk to you but can act on chain late. They're like oh. Why aren't you bureau. The it was just like one of those. This perfectly is already there. It's awesome any money to bring the in you know. Only i don't have to travel. The might shop is fifteen minutes daily place on the lake. It is like a no brainer. You know it's like okay and then Then you know. The first time i was there didn't match you know so in the crop for dynamite. And you know that was. That was an amazing experience. I was like holy crap. This is awesome. Get to zimmer. Who doesn't really when you just come on. Who doesn't think it's such a banger. I gotta get words. Do a lotta guys when they come out with. Music shit sucks. But i had corey lists. We went to excise. Cw and he's like. I can't even hold you up. I really didn't think this was going to be that good. But it's really philly. Okay so then you know the next day the week i get to go back and i'm so excited that i get to go back again. You know and like i'm looking at the board you know and like oh man. I hope they give you that you know. I didn't get a match again. You know so. It's like dang you know so i might end in catering and unlike you know eating mac and cheese 'em lake you eating my feelings like several mac and cheese and a unlike. Just finish the mac and cheese. And i'm like take a big bite of this cookie and one of the restrooms you gotta match. Cookie automatically takes good anymore. I just like yogurt. No and i was like okay. Okay and then thunder rosa so it was like oh shit yes sir and then like i just like to getting getting like have the experience her too because it's like manley. I'm reading that. Nwa women's champion. So it's surreal like that. This is my first mansion. Any and i'm like this is like the caliber of woman. That putting the up against you know and Instead the bed like of a damn that's gotta be a hell of a damn pressure going into a much less against somebody like thunder rosa. Luckily didn't you guys just face each other at a mission pro right before that. Yeah like a month prior to a w we had matt or maybe like a month and a half prior. Yeah match at vision pro. I think like we went for like twenty five or thirty minutes or something like crazy long time. Yeah and i was just like this. Is the ben like a better A better opportunity for me. You know it's like not only are you giving me somebody that i literally just wrestle quitting. You're putting on this pedestals which was like a super cool super cool thing or for them to book Against her like that. You know. And then i'm to keep handing me like Top level conan's late. I just feel like Like a test and you know they have. They have brought me back so hopefully you know things. Keep going on this direction for me Beat i'm just like. I'm training super hard working super hard at and i feel like they're they're looking at at a at something about me. You know whether they just wanna get tax you with an or getting. You're getting bread off them. So it's all good situation and those are the best. It kind of goes back to one thing. I was gonna say earlier. Is you know it's not only opportunity that you're getting the fact that you like. You said you keep answering the phone. You keep making these phone calls that you gotta do to get your name out there you know if you show up the first time and things. Don't go your way you're still gonna show up a second time to try to get it what you're what you're going. It's my dream and lay biggest. Nothing that can stop me from showing up during the work. You know it's like this. This is what i want. And i'm gonna prove to everybody that needs to be proven to the way i am she late. I'm literally ambition. I just i m waiting to be able to showcase all right so a good question to go off of that. We've got one more question for you in the comments. Chris asked again. Is there anybody now that you've been doing your thing with a w in particular that you'd like to lock it up with serena would be that would be a hell of a match. I would very much like that. When cory you would be a big fan of that one too because matt wrestling and that one would be fun to watch that you know we get out of here. I'd be remiss. If i don't bring this up okay so obviously as you guys saw if you're following us at kale three c. Pot or mia detroit knockout. I was doing my research where we got on here rewatching bloodsport and just for any you assholes that are going to be in the comments and say well. He probably just bought that day. No i watched it as it happened but that. Hey man i. I was a big fan that stuff anyway and then after we got to kick it with you anyways like i said that's just how we roll this way. Everybody might not be that way on these shows you come with but if you're going to take the time to take time out of your schedule to come with us. The least i could do a show a little bit of support return so just saying What my question is like you you know. You really got to show off your grappling prowess as we mentioned your jitsu practitioner yourself. If i'm not mistaken you got three stripes on your blue belt so frozen you got you. I know you have your bluebell. You know you got to do. Yeah i bring my. I forgot to bring my gear my belts at training yesterday Because like it was like super last minute so all i had was my new visa. Always gary my no east up in the cartons on weirdo but with me so i borrowed somebodies e and built for for a picture. But i don't feel there. I'm like i'm the bad spot of okay. So we party with our friends from breaking down the reigning for summer slam. It was not the last one but the one before. Some dickhead went. We were in detroit. I mean and don't any you guys that are gonna watch this imposing. No this does not mean. You can't be safe in detroit assholes but We throw a party for summer slam. Somebody busted into my car in of all things they took they took my guitar and somehow out of all the shit they got. They stole my purple belt. Like what the fuck. What are you gonna do in my purple bill. You probably didn't even know what the fuck it was. So funny i went into go train about maybe donald trout. I mean maybe that see now. Let's a good theory. See that's a good theory see. I actually didn't think of that one. But i'm just like what the fuck of all things you could steal my belt and then the worst has regularly because i work with my schedule at the post office and shit so fucked up. I went to go train about. I train about a week week and a half ago and i go in there and a partner me up with this kid in like. He's trying to be respectful. And he's like he's thinking that i'm some white belts because there was no day and i'm like yeah. We start rolling and he quickly realizes that. I'm not a white belt and in my coaches like well it's been around for like thirty fucking years you know. I always get shit. Because i got a white belt or a blue belt done and it's backed up because i know this music is right up your alley. We had something set up where zoltan from five finger death punch was supposed to come on with us because he trained with one of my coaches and It was funny because we did like little teaser video. The interview fell through. But we did like a teaser video. You can see it on youtube and i. We did this whole thing with the belt. And i'm like man. This fucking sucks. Because these people are gonna think i'm a white belt still and like I i don't ever wear bill. You know 'cause i always you leave but like a. yeah. Yesterday i showed up the practice and he was like oh. You didn't bring your gig. The shitty leaked the matt mack. That's something fairly eight roundabouts white belt but we do like It was just so funny to me because it was so big. I it's like oh my god but like yeah the wake though. You know like erase Stimulate me lake. Like i didn't know any bacon. It was twenty. You know it's funny. Whenever you don't wear basically. I don't want a sandbag. Anybody rush. like oh i don't really play in the Oh i don't mind wearing the white anything like that because it doesn't really you know obviously like when you when you get belted it does mean something to you know but like i doesn't either thing for me to wear. Yeah so it's like this is funny to me because of and don t instead of and look at the bar and the bar the white belt. So it's like everybody's like oh this guy now. What she's doing. well. I just wanna see. I wanna say how much i appreciate your time. I didn't even look at the clock. They're giving us the go home q. I'm going to tell you when we get off here. The story of when i went to american top team and didn't have my belt and forgot my g. and they all realize that i had trained and they're all looking at me like they didn't want me to beat this kid up and they're like we appreciate you being respectful have you hazard noodle lindsay snow. What are you doing. Let them know where they can find you on social media and make sure you check out awa dark just aired this today at seven o'clock so go check that shit out if you haven't already done so can find me on twitter and a cigarette out at power k. j. u. w. e. r. and crazy coffee and tea every morning to ask about that. Yeah it's okay. I flipped it on their reggae. Next time in the in between time we thank you for your time. Ms lindsey snow in all you guys that were watching until next time piece.

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Dan's Plan For A Dam

Bedtime Stories With Nennis And Douglas

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Dan's Plan For A Dam

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The Sedano Show (Hr 4)

Afternoons with Marcellus & Kelvin

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The Sedano Show (Hr 4)

"Hey, the SPN apps. Updated to listen to your favorite ESPN LA seven ten show. All you gotta do is click the more tab at the bottom and then scroll down to live radio. So it used to be the little headphones were there. You would click that. And it would take you to the audio stuff. Now, you've gotta click all the way to the right? There's a tab that says Moore and then right there. It's just one extra step. And then you find the live radio or the audio tab, and you can listen to the station that way. So it's happy hour every hour here with Keyshawn Keyshawn, l z and Travis Stephen Mason and Ireland, and of course, our show on both the radio and the ESPN app. So airlines back Ireland. Thank you so much for hanging out again couple of questions for you. Casey pee on Lonzo. He basically said that Lonzo needs to be more aggressive after the game yesterday that he needs to you know, basically what we've all been talking about. Which is we need to see some consistency out of him. Because he said, quote, he is the head of the snake. The when he goes, we go so at some point Bill Parcells used to have this great that line where he would say if he doesn't bite as a puppy. He's probably never gonna bite like how long how much longer. Do. We look at Lonzo Brandon and say to themselves and say to ourselves like how much can you wait for their consistency to develop great question in the problem? George nowadays is that these guys are so young like Lonzo junior. UCLA Ingram should still be in college. And you can't wait for these guys. You know, the way you used to be able to you know, when when Bill Walton came into the league, we're Lew Alcindor came into the league, he's had, you know, multiple years of UCLA experience. The now you can't. So I mean, there's there Yoenis when he started you saw him to look like a deer that was just born learning to walk, and he was all over the place and every once in a while you get a guy like Chauncey Billips who blooms late who after four or five years in the league then hits. But most of the time you can tell within two to three years what you've got. So this is your two for Lonzo year three for Ingram. I think that's a very fair question to ask. And I think that's why part of the season is an audition. What do you think the answer to that question is is it too early to give up on those guys? Probably. Yeah. I think that this is it I think that you know, they're going to get their opportunity. This is the audition year if it works. Cool if it doesn't work then sorry, you're going to end up getting dealt somewhere else. And they're going to bring in players that fit better. You know, the roster construction Johnny something you, and I've talked about like it wasn't ideal. It was going to be a bit challenging at times. And you see it. Now, why certain LeBron teams have been built the way they've been built in the past you surround him with guys who can shoot. And it maximizes everything that he does on the floor. And I think that the Lakers made a bit of a mistake there by not bringing in more guys who were capable of shooting. Even if it was just one guy that you know, you can count on to be thirty eight thirty nine forty percent consistently. And that you couldn't you couldn't leave him. Right. And and part of the reason the team wasn't built that way. So now all of a sudden the Lakers are twenty seven three point shooting. And they made me to re if they're going to go back to that way. What you're talking about? What the Brian teams have always been like in the past. Maybe they do go. Look at Bradley Beal, a guy who's dead eye shooter from the outside. But I think what they wanna do is try and land at nother like elite player another guy that, you know, they want what the warriors have they wanna Durant Steph curry kind of competition, but Durant and Steph do it from the outside, you know, the Brian at this point can do from from anywhere. But you know, if you go after one of these elite wings, which is what the league is kind of all about. Now, he's not necessarily the best shooter. It's it's a really hard question to answer and Robin magic have to decide can we continue to feel the team without an elite shooter. And I don't know if I if you can answer yesterday. Yeah. I think in today's NBA it's too hard to do that last thing before I let you go. The Rams what is the thing that concerns you the most heading into Sunday, Michael Thomas? I don't understand how he could light up the Rams in week nine. What do you have twelve or thirteen catches right up? The eagles again yesterday. He leads the NFL in receptions, George, and even though we know he's going to catch a bunch of passes. You can't stop them. And so they've obviously figured out a way to get him the ball and get him the ball in spots where he can't be defended. So I'm obviously ramps fan. I'm hoping that it keep to lead is going to be a little more successful than Marcus Peters was. But can you explain to me how the eagles are, you know, they're the defending Super Bowl champions? They know how good he is. And what did he catch thirteen path? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's crazy. So he can surging an Alvin Kamara had a very pedestrian day. It's seventy one yards rushing. He didn't score a touchdown when the ransom and the first time we couldn't keep them out of the end zone. So those if you will allow me to things I'm worried about one is is how do you stop Michael Thomas, and to I'm worried about Kamara going off having said that I feel great about the Rams Jason. He's nervous as hell. I told Mason I think his team's going Super Bowl. I think the Rams are playing playing better right now than the saints. Are the Rams have played good three weeks in a row that performance against Dallas kind of came out of nowhere. They stopped Zeki Elliott. They had two rushers go over one hundred yards. Mcvay seems to be at the height of his powers. I think the Rams have great chance on Sunday when comfortably because you know, the the saints run defense has been hindered. Now is Sheldon rankings out with an achilles. I know they have a rotation. But yet they have two guys. That they rotate into that spot. But the third guy who never plays is going to have to play there. So they're not going to be able to play every snap with the backup. I actually think the Rams are gonna be able to control the clock and run the ball. So I'm with you. I'm not really that concerned as concerned as maybe some people about that game. Are you concerned about Netflix raising their prices Ireland? Is there a breaking point in the Ireland household on Netflix prices? They're not only not a breaking point on Netflix. Thirteen ninety nine. Yes. Thirteen ninety nine is the cheapest one now. Yeah. Okay. I be willing to go to fifty bucks. Wow. Or netflix. That's how much I watch. And here's an and by the way, for Amazon I'd be willing to go three times that. Yeah. I mean, well because they deliver everything till you. Yeah. For sure right. So I'm I'm a sucker they, but they're going to continue both Amazon, and Netflix and continue to see what they can get away with. If I you know, I I belong to a gym. And they used to charge us. Fifteen bucks a month for. The locker. Out of the out of the blue. They sent out. They starting to dozen nineteen or turning forty five dollars for locker every everybody gave up their lives. Said screw it. I'm not doing. So we'll see if the thirteen ninety nine is is the, but I think most people are going to pay it, don't you? Yeah. For sure, and I actually told Mason that all the streaming stuff. Like all the add on like, if you if you have Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon, and then you gotta pay fifty bucks a month for internet. You've basically got the cable the same price as you're paying for your Gable? Bundle. At this point, the whole thing is a racket. Right. And people are now that we're used to it now that they suck to thin. We'll continue to pay it. Yeah. Not giving up. Pam on not giving Netflix come on. I'm with you, man. Enjoy cluckers. All right, man. Have a good show. All right, man. Thanks joy, Oklahoma City and hopefully get a win. Right. Hope. So. See there's John Ireland with is here. Let me grab some people been holding on patiently Stephen LA. Go ahead. Steve good buddy, and George how you Don Goodman. I wanted to quickly talk about the Luke Walton a scenario and at this point in the season. I don't know if you fire somebody forty five games. And if you don't have somebody in the wings waiting, and what worries me more than that? If you did have like a fan Gundy, kind of pending would be his assistant coaches, and who would step in the interim. Okay, say that again. So firing Luke Walton at this point in the season. You're forty five games in. I don't know who you're going to bring in if you're still in this period. Lebron and that you're going to have an assistant coach step into an interim role. Right. Right. So like Brian Shaw. Right. And to me that's more worrisome because if you look at Luke Steph is effectively Madson Shaw and his college friends, right? And so to me, it's like what what do you expect is going to happen or what's going to change? Oh, no. I don't think. That's why I think they can't fire Luke barring again magic word of something drastic. Because and thank you for the call, Steve because there's just not anyone you could promote internally as you pointed out. They don't sudden a bench that is already thin as far as the system so concerned, and we know Stephen came on and told us how much magic doesn't love the assistant coaches as it is already. I don't think that's the route. He'd take. You know, maybe you get the initial bump of a couple of games because it's change and whatnot. But after that, it's it's like it is what it is. And I don't know if you're going to be able to get like. You know, you're gonna get Mark Jackson in the middle of the season or Jason Kidd or someone like that. Like, I don't see those guys wanting to take that over like that either. Yeah. It's why I don't think they're getting rid of Luke at any point this season at least, and I don't think it's prudent by any stretch of the imagination. Hey, don't forget before the show's over today. So we've got about thirty minutes here. We're gonna give you a chance to win some cool gear from this Paki out Bruner fright. You can win a jacket water bottle and a t shirt and qualified for the grand prize, which is awesome. An autograph boxing glove by both pack yound Boehner and a free code to watch the fight for free. So they have it. So don't go anywhere. Stick around for that. Coming up next. I do wanna get into one of the things that Rams fans are doing in preparation for this game that I think is just a cause as anything we have seen in southern California. This season will do that. We'll take more of your calls so Donald show ESPN LA Saddana show here on ESPN LA. Gotta get to this. Fun. 'cause the Rams fans are pushing four here before the game and his second row. Quick at six thirty one sports fans. What's the game plan tonight with your kids when you get home? Well, here's an idea. Do what we did talking reading singing, it changes everything. How did we do that? We went to I five California dot com, and we learned okay? Those first five years the formative years the brains man, they are functioning very quickly when their newborns. You have no idea. So you gotta get them stimulated as quickly as possible. And as new parents, we didn't know what we were doing. So we learned where did we learn first five, California dot com. You can do the same man. Ain't no shame in it. Talking reading singing, you learn all sorts of stuff there. I five California dot com to learn more. So Bill vukovich, you may not know that name. It is not a household name by any stretch of the imagination Bill. Vintage is the head referee for the NFC championship game. The reason that is a thing is because Rams fans have started an online petition because. Because the Rams are only eight in games that Bill vukovich has been the referee. Conversely, the New Orleans Saints are five and three in those same scenarios when Bill vukovich has been the lead referee. I'm all about it, man. Like, listen, I as a guy who. Covers the NBA a lot. Referee's? Does it think man? And look it isn't like it's not like that in the NFL to do you. Remember the name, Phil Luckett. The NFL referee. He's the guy that on that thanksgiving game between the Steelers and the lions messed up the coin toss do you remember that? And then do he's also the guy there was a game between the Seahawks and jets were Vinny Testaverde is back in the day. When Parcells and Keyshawn and those guys were there. They Vinny Testaverde scored a touchdown. Against the Seahawks. That knocked the Seahawks out of the playoffs and Vinnie actually didn't score the touchdown. And this is pre obviously instant replay. And all that stuff. Vinnie's helmet. Got across the ball. Never got across and Phil Luckett was the referee the had referee on both. So it happens way. More in the NBA in baseball. Like, we all know cowboy Joe west, and you know, you know, back in the NBA Joey Crawford, right. Like, those type of guys Bennett Salvator, but. They are occasionally some guys in the NFL that you will know my thing is why put a referee to hasn't worked a conference championship in a couple of years. They go matter they're going to win. Anyway, that's true. But I don't get that. I don't get that be fair. Be fair Rams has lost eight games at the referees referee, but how many river how many referees? My guess is most referees. Don't referee a conference championship game. Every you, you know, like, probably the different. That's probably a pretty quick turnaround actually twenty sixteen to twenty nineteen because there's there's probably a handful of referees in the league that are considered the top guys. And you know, there's probably a rotation for those kind of gigs. One good thing about this referee is that they allow the players to play the game a little bit more physical. Okay. Another cruise, which is good. I'm good without just good. Yeah. Neat that especially from your defensive backs especially for. Keep leave is going to be going off against a face off against Michael Thomas, so semi. I gotta get in his head. Also, I don't know if it's possible. What do you mean? Oh, no. Oh, no. That is Michael Thomas specialty he'd likes to get another dudes heads. It's why when DeMarco was on earlier he talked about Marcus Peters. Can't fall for the bait because they're going to try to bait him because he as we know Peter's, they know he has a lot going on this as far as the trash talk. Yeah. Yeah. That's him snorting half is like that in football. Yeah. So and the famous what he ran up in the stands and ask the fan. One. He put that on me. I mean, so that's the thing. That's a real thing. Patrick pasadena. Patrick. Hey, George, I, and I appreciate might get me through trying to be real quick when it comes to Luca. I just every day I listened in. And it drives me insane that his job would be even being questioned when you look at experience of what they do right now. Magic in rob verse. Luke, Luke has proven that he can coach in the NBA. He's proven what he can do with talent. He's proven that. He can turn defenses around. He can develop players magic. It Robin shown they got LeBron and they can't couldn't construct the proper team around of you though, you watch him for fifteen seasons now. And then you look at other options, you guys like fit bail out there. He's won ten games with the Knicks. And they were talking about how this guy the next great thing needs to be the Lakers coach wanted to replace. Well, I mean in look and Patrick I'll let you finish. But look all due respect to fizz like that that Knicks teams they're trying to tank like so that's a little different. You know, it's not the same scenario. We agreed. Agreed. But. Take Shaq and Kobe off the two thousand acres is that not similar to taking Rondo LeBron Kuzina for a cover games off this team. And then going why are we winning wombs into the worst teams because we aren't the worst game? When you take them off our our roster. Well, the Lakers are definitely not as good. Look, you know, what the Lakers are the Lakers last season where thirty five win team. Now, they dealt with a lot of injuries to Lonzo and whatnot or whatever, and they had Julius Randle and brook Lopez. So yeah, there are thirty something win team with the team that that they're putting on the floor right now without LeBron and Rondo, yes. Minus Randall and Lopez. Correct. Correct. Yeah. They're they're about a thirty something win team. Thank you, George. I appreciate it. Love the show as always you gotta buddy. That that's the reality of it. That's what they are. You know, there's. You know, there's. Anyone who thinks otherwise like, I just don't know where you're watching like what you expect. You. You must have way more faith in what these kids are capable of at the current moment than the rest of us because look. Potential is there. There's no doubt. Like, you're not drafted that high. Like everybody would have drafted them in that top five ish area. Both those guys. Regardless of what you think of the other guys in the draft. They would've been somewhere in that top part of the lottery. So that means some team was trying to make them their franchise player regardless or one of their franchise players. So yeah, I get the potential part of it. But at some point you have to realize that potential, and that's kind of the thing here. Hey, don't forget dudes brewing company this weekend. Come hang out. I'll be there. In torrance. Watch party on Sunday at noon. Text the words dudes the word dudes to four zero seven zero five that's dudes to four zero seven zero five they got five tasting rooms here in southern California Torrance, which will be out on Sunday Santa Monica, Santa Clarita, Huntington beach and Thousand Oaks, and of course, to order beer from the source. You can do it online. Learn about the dudes brewing company, visit their website the dudes brew dot com. 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And you get qualified for the grand prize, which is an autographed boxing glove by both Manny pack. Yeah. And Adrian dope problem Baroda, and you get a promo code to watch the fight for free. But you got get qualified for that stuff. You can right now you'll win the if you're caller seven you win, the the goodies the jacket and the water bottle and the t shirt and one lucky person. I guess before Friday, right? We'll win the promo code for the fight and the glove and those boxing, jackets, always cool. They are my guy where where one now, you know. And now, you may weather Ortiz fight. I'm not that you and Raj because you guys love going to Vegas for those fights. You guys you guys get all the swag like you. And you're always wearing and representing. That's why you rarely need a huge jacket in LA. But these are perfect today. Absolutely this week. Nice. Check mean, it's terrible out here. Nice quality windbreakers, usually, no doubt. No doubt. So caller, seven good luck to you. So this weather, by the way, I'm done with this like come on, man. Friday can't come soon enough. You know? Tell me about it, man. Like, you said it feels like we've been living in Seattle does is terrible. But we needed man would all the smog and stuff once it clears up. We'll all appreciate it had been nice and clear though. Like the last week, you know, not that I want to do the weather report here for the last minute of the show. But you know, I feel bad man like driving in. This weather's terrible to, you know, people get into accidents and stuff. So. Yeah, it's it's it makes it difficult because people I get it, man. You know, you want us to it in the rain is not is not the same. So soccer weeklies coming up next. You know, my man, Dave down-home and company. We'll take care of you. So hopefully tomorrow when we get here, we're gonna have Brian win horse. Stop by tomorrow. He's going to hang out with us for a little bit. We'll talk to him about LeBron you Brian had some strong takes by the way on the Lakers today. Well, part of the reality is that LeBron is not really going to be back, really. Even the short term. I don't think he's gonna play Monday among their king day against the warriors. They've got a four game homestand coming up. I think maybe sometime in that home stand, but they are team where they have a very large what I call cone of uncertainty. Typically, you have an idea of what a team ceiling and floor is this team could end up in the six seed and pull off a first-round upset or they could end up tents. Yeah. I mean, he's right. And we'll talk to Brian tomorrow who spend a good chunk of the show with us here on the show. He'll be kind of our one of our guests in studio. So we'll chat with Brian and see where the Lakers cone of uncertainty is tomorrow as they get ready to go to Oklahoma City and take on our nemesis. Tomorrow.

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Numerologie, oder die Weisheit der Zahlen - mit Dagmar Grahl

Pod Cast Away - Gespräche mit Samson

1:28:47 hr | 5 months ago

Numerologie, oder die Weisheit der Zahlen - mit Dagmar Grahl

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NGOPI #19 - Pengaruh Kesholihan Orang Tua Terhadap Anak (Ustadz Dr. Fachri Fachrudin, S.H.I., M.E.I.)

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NGOPI #19 - Pengaruh Kesholihan Orang Tua Terhadap Anak (Ustadz Dr. Fachri Fachrudin, S.H.I., M.E.I.)

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The Yearly Zeitgeist: 2014/2015

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The Yearly Zeitgeist: 2014/2015

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Lt Network or unlimited usage guys if you're ready to learn more switched to visible than head to visible dot com slash td to get twenty dollars off your first month service when when you sign up for an exclusive special offer just for dailies ice listeners. Who Miles doesn't think deserve nice? I didn't say that I think you guys do and just just go to visible dot com slash TV. Hello the Internet and welcome to this very special holiday edition of Zeitgeist It's a production of iheartradio still. But this is a podcast. We're taking a deep dive into America's shared consciousness back in the years. Two thousand fourteen in two thousand fifteen and we're saying officially off the top coat brothers. Talk Boxes My Name Is Jack O'Brien Aka when you're hungry four some Daily News where you're GONNA PA deasy and WHO's the hose can't smoke good to sweat on his Jack. O'Brien yeah Patmore and and I'm thrilled to be joined as always By my co host Mr Miles. I guess he's Gon Na to smoke some economist. Thank you guys. Came off ripped off the top without one to to the whole. That's what people people refer to miles an. Is was that. I won't tell you which ones with the song at the end credits. Little mini scene with him catching jogger and shit. Yeah Yeah I don't know what it was the same one a reprise perhaps a reprieve. I just remember them. Controlling that statue of Liberty with a video game controller so not sure how the technology works. And I don't go. Smith Goes I have to do is press forward on the joystick and the statue of Louis. nozoe bite fight science. We're also joined in studio Soup producer deejay Don Goodman. What's up man good? He's off Mike and Mike on Hosea. Could not be here for this one Dj Dan will be in the background. Speaking off Mike you'll be able to hear him. Vaguely given given weird looks looks to the camera one day one day given weird looks to the camera two thousand fourteen miles a year. What a time to be alive is actually? That was two thousand fifteen. Oh Oh you mean the album. Yeah I two thousand fourteen. I am working for or power one. Oh Six for part one youtube the second half of that year you this is when I started like working where it can work before. I don't know if you've listened to past episodes some lean years after twenty and twenty you are. You're in politics. You had a career. I had a career and I basically had to save all my the money so I wouldn't. I wouldn't have to work for us. I could literally put as much time in trying to get a comedy career as possible. Yeah because Politics was killing killing your soul. Yeah no it was it was all right. Let's talk about two thousand fourteen the way we've been kicking these officers looking at the movies from that year as you know. I'm a big. I believe that the movies effect Zeitgeist and vice versa. And I've been just using google I google movies of two thousand fourteen and look at the top results because Google It might be reacting to me what it knows about when you Google this list. This is what I see. This was the Google movies though any fourteen. Yeah it's so funny because this morning I was starting i. I wasn't clear on who is going to start trying to put this research together and I did the same search. The first thing that a show for me was grand. Budapest hotel was it. Yeah That's so weird. Yeah I guess it knows that I'm a sick nerd. Culture Culture Freak who loves guardians of the Galaxy and I love fucking symmetry. Yeah so it's not wes Anderson. Yeah GRANDPA I haven't seen it really. Maybe maybe your algorithm just knows that you need to see that she says yeah they're like you're the one thing I really like Grand Budapest hotel. There was a promotional Cologne on that. My Mom got for that movie and I love that. Oh really yeah smell great. I think that's his best movie. Yeah maybe rushmore huge. I like Anderson but I'm not like a standard anything but your time. There's a lot of movies on this list. I still need to see still haven't seen interstellar Lou. Do you have about this. It's like the one Chris Nolan Film. Yeah they need him to be perfect in my mind right. A lot of people are like you'll we'll just see it. Yeah it's fun it's like. Yeah it's not perfect by any stretch but it's dope came out this year. I feel that was a big. What were you saying? That's just a joke that I'm glad you talked over. Gongora came out this year. I feel like okay. So Guardians of the galaxy. came out that that was a huge hit. I also feel like it has taken on. I mean it was like Chris. Pine became a thing of off of that. Not Chris Chris Pratt Chris. crispy Chris Chris P rat or steam. Donna Yeah Yamaguchi main. Yeah Chris Pratt became a thing thing before this he was just Andy from parks and REC and probably in one other thing or something but edge of tomorrow the Tom Cruise movie. It was not a hit AK lived. I repeat that was that was a thing where I had A. DVD hang around. I picked it up. I said I have a lot to do on today today. Put it in. No that's a good movie and I feel like it's been it's kind of grown in stature in our. Yeah after the fact yeah I feel like Gong girl well same like it was a hit but then like I feel like gone. girling has become a note hasn't was going to say to gone girl thing every window window. That was a stupid thing. Pretending fig one's own death no I was I was saying that never met Birdman Birdman about where Bauer was critically acclaimed feeling a lot of people reference. It I mean it's like a movie who I feel like I need to watch it again because I really enjoyed it the first time. But it's one of those films. I'm not I'm trying to remember if I liked it because of the way it was shot. Rake as it was actually good. Yeah this was the year that John Wick came out and that has become a huge monstrous movement. Yeah ever since huge mantra monstrous bowel movement huge Bowel Movement Neighbors came out. This year was a big deal and I feel like people have kind of forgotten about that movie. It was Rogan. Anzac Ephron Zakar Fron and who's Zafran rose. Byrne Rose Byrne. Yeah She's great froze burn The hobbit movie movie one of the movie never watched any of them. I did not give a shit about those and I feel like people. Don't really talk about those but I also the people who I know who have been like you gotta check it out our toll keene stay right right. Yeah so so there will be comments but I will. Oh not listen to them. Big Hero six. Did you ever watch that or did you even know what that was I did because I knew some people who worked on it but I didn't know I only knew because because they worked on it would have flown under my radar. Feel like it flew under the radar when it came out it was like successful movie like it did well in theaters but it kind of flew under the radar culturally. And I feel like people don't really talk about it anymore that much but it's good people should check that shit out if you haven't seen it yeah The amazing spider man To spiders Spiderman spiders man Andrew Garfield Spiderman. I feel like has disappeared from the memory of our what happened because has he was way he was riding high. Kinda social network. Yeah Dude because everybody like wanted him to succeed and then he got fucked over and he's also an arsenal fan lawyer on mother fucker. Twenty two jump Street Moore movie one of the first dates. I went to with Her Majesty. Jump Street yeah hold the move where legit forgot my wallet. This was legit but it was that Shit where I sincerely was pat in my pockets trying to get my wallet and then I go. Oh Shit which you did every time that I've gone if you ever a lunch with mother damning. I really did it this time. Yeah got no no wallet musically. What are we looking at? We're looking at uptown funk we're looking at fancy we're looking at uh-huh flex zone. Bobby SMIRNOVA believe me. Lil Wayne Wayne. There's some good songs in here but the beyond say album came out at the beginning of this year or was it for. I don't know I think I get this and the next year mixed up but There was some run the jewels Business Done Nineteen twenty thirteen club going up on a Tuesday I love mccomb just in fairness us. It came Matt in December of two thousand thirteen. Okay album there. It is That's why talk finally thank God And that's about it. Did Taylor swift album. Come out that you're the next year. Yeah toes dropped nineteen thousand nine that year. Shake it off. You guys know how he'll shake it off you love it. I can't shake it. It's a jam so story Wise News Wise On the Internet and off so this is the year that Gamer Gate became thing and it was like man. There is this enormous amount of anger amongst video game playing playing males towards women Because like and it was it was just completely outside. A woman was like we need to start thinking about adding some progressive thinking to how we design video games how we review video games and and she was like targeted for death. Yeah would you say they just Damsel in women in video games and your save like chooses pointing out all rope and being like are. y'All actually understanding what Yeah Anita Sarkissian and it became just a complete nightmare Huge story It and I assumed that this was just like I. I don't know some sort of imbalance in like one specific part of the Internet and it just kept going there a few years later At happen open to a woman named Zoe Quinn Zoe Quinn and it happens to some of the actresses on one of our videos cracked and then it blake. That whole movement became like mega twitter and Maggie Like the online trump hive. Well the yeah well. The Zoe Quinn thing happened in two thousand fourteen eighteen also. Oh it did. Yeah because that was part of the whole that was like the other thing they were pointing out of like. I wish she was accused of Like sleeping with a journalist or something something or in a relationship with it and it became like this really lame fucking crusade but yeah I mean that was really when I was like. Oh like this to me. I was like own now. We're we really do see that. It awoke a certain mentality like again a lot of these people to sort of gather around a common cause which was like women. I'm trying to do what. Yeah this is Mike. CERNA Vich came from. He was like a Gamer Gate and right persona But yeah it really did become a the whole thing. Yeah and then. What wasn't Steve Bannon? was that when he was like. Hey these These guys might be ripe for the picking. Yeah that's exactly right Steve. Bannon saw the energy behind Gamer Gate and was like you know. I think there might be red room for basically a populist movement on the right to like come through and respond to all these people who feel like entitled to sex here right. It's wild that at that be like. This is the worst possible version that I could possibly imagine looking back six years on at this story Being being like Oh this movement became the president. Yeah right of the United States manifested itself into an administration right and it. So they were able to use a lot of the misogynistic shit from allow misogynistic ideals misogynistic like energy from this movement against against Hillary Clinton Against Progressive Ideas And because I think isn't that was also the them talking about Social Justice Warriors. Yes that's S. J.. WBZ came a thing. That's when I started being accused of being an S J W I was like Whoa wait. What because I'm because I'm saying misogyny bad fucking fucking Social Justice Roy? It's cuts deep on being called. Destroy our man. I've I've never lived it down. Yeah Sarah Calls it. Oh that's never wants soya. Milk in the office. No it's not good for you man right. That's not good for your. I'm not I G you level. Tr Tea with the Queen anyways. Wild year They they also like weaponize against like c net and got like big companies to stop waiting advertise on big websites not seen it What's the Aegean it's just just nightmare? Nightmare alternate history so this is a kind of a dark year Dark couple years Ebola outbreak was this year. The Malaysian flight that disappeared appeared happen this year. We've talked on a past episode of TD's e but this is one of those stories that I think the the energy from the media was behind maintaining the mystery. They were like it's so mysterious like we never know like disappeared into thin air and we actually know what happened up into the plane There is an Atlantic kind of deep dive into it and they know where it crashed based on like You know debris that washed up on shore awesome like tide patterns. They have a rough idea of where crashed. They also know like where it was right before it would have run out of fuel and it was like over the south Indian Ocean And they also know what happened to the pilot Did it on purpose. I I mean we don't know why. Necessarily he was like going through some tough things at home. But he was a veteran pilot in his fifties and he had a flight simulator simulator at his home that he ran like thousands of flight simulations on and the one of the last ones he ran or the very last one was the exact flight path that they think the plane took before it crashed so he it was such a mystery to at the time. There were so many theories about what happened. But I think they're part of it to like it. I activated a weird part of people's imaginations. I think too like there was something something really interesting to people at the time. When they're like what really could have? Yeah and I think that's still like they're still like think that it just disappeared into thin on air. I mean there's been I blame lost. There's well there's lost but there's also been like a USA show where it's like. This flight disappeared in the eighties and then just landed edge and like other fucking movie from the eighties or something. But it's you know what I'm talking about where these people were on a flight and then led don't land end in some weird place and like they're completely replaced with others. No fuck no clue what you're talking about. Man I'll don't was was it. Sounds like the listeners screaming whatever that movie is but airplane. Well we're going to actually take a quick break for miles to look that up and we'll be right back back and he will shout it out loud as you realize what it was back in a minute. Situated on the beautiful table Beach Baja Mar a spectacular new resort destination in the Bahamas. This with your choice of three ocean front hotels. The Grand Hyatt S. L. S. and Rosewood. This is the place to find your perfect blend of luxury relaxation. And and a lot of fun. Whatever you're looking for you can find it at Baja? Mar The Bahamas most exciting culinary destination. The resort is home to over forty restaurants bars is an lounges ranging from casual waterside. 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The plane mysterious mysteriously Barron Airport And that is just the way the human memory works. That's what people are going to who remember as what actually happened to the Malaysian right So Langley who's a total angle ears So this was also the year of Michael Michael Brown being killed by police officer and The protests in Ferguson and Eric Garner's death will also two two thousand fourteen. There was that was such a dark. It's the you know. The the the darkness continues. Yeah it's the same same shit and I think think this is when it was happening with such frequency to Continues to it. I don't know just feels like a a problem. That will just won't go away. Yeah and this was kind of continuing with past thread. This was also we saw sort of the militarization of the American completes force in like how they dealt with the protests in Ferguson they're like giant military vehicles and you know all sorts. You've just really overly aggressive tactics used by the police to for the purposes of quote unquote crowd control. Yeah and the guy who killed Michael Brown. The COP was never didn't see it day jail for that. The guy who killed Hild Eric Garner also never saw any criminal consequences He did get fired from the New York. Police Force five years on so so Yeah Derrick for justice. Yeah this is also the year that Isis kind of became a thing Where we is this a sort of rose up swept across came out of Iraq and started fucking shit up basically? Yeah just uploading horrific horrific videos of all these executions in shit in all their propaganda. Like I think they'd it's like when we saw terrorism. Move into like the digital age right. Yeah they were pretty advanced in terms of how they were communicating and And also just how their military strategy as compared to like Al Qaeda. We started hearing that al-Qaeda was sort of falling apart and getting beaten back by. US US military and then this is basically the remnants of al Qaeda in Iraq Came came through with this massive movement. I and it's also a this is also kind of like a weird moment to where people were we're starting to realize that Youtube and social media were becoming a real recruitment Krugman tool also right. It was the first and only bad thing that social media has ever produced to the Figari. What This was also the conflict in Ukraine In kief where you know. A bunch of people were protesting a a head of state who was very pro Russia and moving Ukraine away from the EU. And you know it ended up with a massive protests in the middle of cave where they built like a snow fort and fought the cops and Viktor Yanukovych Ovitz. Yeah how's Paul Manafort would have thought Weird Robin Williams took his own life this year. Very sad and depressing and Let's talk about some less said things from this year This is the Time magazine section things that broke the internet the net. Oh we got Kim Kardashian's but wait. Wasn't that like literally what they called. It like Kim Kardashian breaks Internet. Yeah break the Internet Kim Kardashian. That was the cover of paper magazine and it was her but I was Internet. Yeah it WHO's GonNa pay for this right. It broke the Internet papers. Website saw six point six million page views. This is where the left talking about hits and page views. WHO's this guy this pages? syncing fifteen million hits seems very outdated. Yeah that was a member of that. Yeah currency wasn't that also Like an them completely copying a different image to like the the Amazon like the Champagne. One I don't Warwick Dali One. Yeah I mean I am right I remember accuser. Daniel is confirming. Yeah Yeah exactly. It was like of a black woman I believe and yeah this is the beginning of her being like I duNNo. Wow that is a really really sick photo. Shoot right this was also the year of the sexy felon the Mugshot of that really really handsome. Dude Jeremy MEEKS. He's based yeah isn't he. He got like engaged or married to someone. Who's WHO's a wealthy as fuck? Yeah they're still together but he got out a he got out and left the his girlfriend who had been standing by him while while he was in jail and really left her for a rich famous person. I think See what happens. This is renee is always eager We saw for the first time in a decade and she looked totally different. Oh that's right right and you forgot. It was is weird because like there was a lot of pushback people just being like leave women alone like stop you know policing right women look like it was not so much that as and I mean this is me a guy saying this but at the same time like I would have had the same reaction headed been been any dude like. She just looked like she had taken a different person's face and put it on. Yeah is just looks like a different person. I think it's I I think that's the issue right. Is like you take something like like celebrity culture. And how it's like hyper threading. Is Everything so yeah. It's a toxic equation. Outcomes will always be toxic right. Yeah I mean it's definitely I should end the CI or anyone felt pressure to change. How and also when you think of like now to the nature of like the digital media landscape like the takes had to be fucked up to great clicks? Yeah like you couldn't be like renee. SOWA has like reemerged it headlines we like what has she done face. Her face. Don't believe what Renee Zoa girl. She didn't look better or worse. She just looked like a different person. Yeah but people were like what did she do to her face. Rene Yeah so then or not fuck off but also this was uncanny. It was an uncanny experience. Taylor swift dropped nineteen nineteen nine as we mentioned one hundred twenty or one point two million copies week one. And now we're GONNA listen to it and its entire grade. The Ice Bucket Challenge. Remember this you guys seen this. You heard about this didn't do it. You didn't know one. I want to me. I had a whole bunch of people around me who are doing it and it got to me and I didn't do it and that was it. Wow Yeah so we can blame you firm. That's happened. Yeah Yeah Bill Gates did it. And his version racked up twenty million views Charlie Sheen's got nearly as many and Bill Gates I mean he's a humanitarian and a great great man. who around this time was hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein? Yeah but I think it was just a talk about how to raise money for Ayla right. This was the year of the Jay Z.. Salon JR elevators showdown down sometimes down and that was the first time that We had an inkling of what was to come with lemonade and four forty four. Yeah becky with the good hair had had done her damage. and S- launch This was kind of before Salange really like had started dropping like classics right. Yeah for sure why I mean at least her first album which is really really good. I read a little singles a single like I knew her as beyond sister. who was that Coachella? The one year I went and was like dope like her was like solid like she had a really cool like aesthetic. That I was like okay. This person's probably going to be something but she wasn't like a seat at the table. which was album two thousand sixteen? That's when people like what holding all our. Did everyone fall asleep on this person. So stay tuned to next episode where. We'll probably talk about that. This is also the year of the happening as it has become known. People say we're trying to blame for Chan for it. I think initially and then it was like now this this is it's a it's a much larger fucked up thing. The man this was twenty six. Was this twenty four year man T now yeah. So we're in two thousand fourteen Late August early. September fotos belong to Jennifer Lawrence. Kate Upton Kirsten dunst leaked online spread across four Chan so four chance spread it. But they weren't the ones who lived on the accident did the hacking and swell the radio yet. Explain that to sway already. What do you mean like you called into sway show? We're doing against settled on a shape. Forty five and it was the day of the fascinating heels. Wise what is this what is what is this. What's fat has it was happening to sway? Did you have to explain what to play. That must have been very awkward. Jennifer Lawrence put it kind of bluntly I think rightly. It's not a scandal. It is a sex crime full stop. It is a sexual violation. It's disgusting and that's when like also you saw the on the other side of like conservative. Feeling like what. Are you doing taking those pictures anyway. Right that's the problem. I can't that fucking believe anyone's take who is still allowed to show their internet the Hubble and have those that's unbelievable. That's fucking believable believable. You ever you ever write to. You have a reasonable expectation of privacy and I think it was like mainstream people like I don't think like I consume any right wing media at the time when I heard that Shit. Yeah why meant more like in Howard. Whatever their values are like a bit more conservative right yeah and also conservatives to full stop on the Red Red Full Stop Stop All right we're about to get into the twenty fifteen but before we do that we're going to take one more quick break. Situated on the Beautiful Cable Beach Baja Mar is spectacular. New Resort destination in the Bahamas with your choice of three oceanfront hotels. The Grand Hyatt. SS and Rosewood. This is the place to find your perfect blend of luxury relaxation. And a a lot of fun. Whatever you're looking for you can find it at Baja? Mar The Bahamas most exciting culinary destination. The resort is home to over forty restaurants bars. And Lounges Lounges. Ranging from casual waterside. 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And let's get into twenty two thousand fifteen This kind of I dunno weird year for movies I mean star. Wars Force Awakens came out. I mean that kind of took up all the oxygen. It was the end end of the year but still it was like such a huge deal. I saw it in Japan. Okay a dope was the first time I Her Majesty came to Japan an and then when the remember that she got up out of her seat but in Japan you sit through the credits. Oh Watch film there because it was just an audible gasps throughout throughout the hemorrhoids. More just like you know it's like Oh but the film. The picture has not ended right so we will see the credits and everyone who worked on and then you will leave some respect. There's a pretty iconic movies from this year Max Fury Road Spotlight. I feel like those are both fairly iconic there in the in the club. You ever but you ever throw spotlight on like Yo you want to ask every time my parents are over like hey you guys seen this guy heard about this mad max yeah it was I think the for me was sort of some of the film making things because his wife right edited the film. Yeah and she's not an action film. Editor oral yeah like a lot of people who are likes like more editing nerds like yeah. That's what's really cool as like the timing side of very Differently and also like the central focal point and all the shots like another sort of cinematic device that they use a lot and it wasn't like I started reading more analysis of it. I don't think I'm realizing how it operated in many other ways from sued. That's a very rich text like that movie was like made for the Internet. They both in terms of what you're talking about and in terms of just if you like look at a shot and there's like all these things hidden in there like that is an old eighty-seven transam piece. He's of there's just all sorts of stuff and then like the writings on the literal writing on the wall and some of the scenes. Lou I guess a successful movie You're you're drastic. World came out that year which was a monster hit the Martian which I feel like the Martian is huge at the time and I if I don't know I never think about that movie. You're not popping that one in I'm not popping the pop in any of these end but I don't think about it anymore. I will the one thing I'll pop in is is the border seen from SICARIO. Yeah Sicario I think is enhanced. I think SICARIO is like kind of economic. It's just that right. It's the the when they're driving in. Yes it it's just that one track. I think it's called the beast or something. Yeah Roy wrote and you're like that movie was was dope The big short kind of think became somewhat iconic. I don't know maybe not. It's definitely like was one of those films homes where it simplified the financial crisis a little bit for P.. Right yeah I think it. Yeah there's reading was Margot Robbie or they're like now Margot Robbie in a bath in the bathtub. Explains this to you. Yeah I mean it was Adam McKay's I like successful dramatic movie but yeah maybe maybe not iconic I guess the financial crisis and it was the first thing that like fully kind of made that breakthrough. Oh so ICONEX. Nancy Grace's financial crisis is never covered from it so vendors age of Altron is diminished. I would say in like I feel like that's not a movie. Any whatever's Beltran. Yeah Yeah it was a series of it was like the Internet became sentient. Oh really yeah. It was dumb as considered considered the worst of the avengers films. Probably yeah the second one. So there's first avengers which like in bed. The whole thing and was written by Joss Joss Sweden just Sweden And I was lot of fun but then I think this was made by Joss Weeden to just wasn't good and then there was captured America. Winter soldier wasn't that this year. I'm thinking of war which was essentially vendor's movie and then Yeah Oh cycle right. Yeah creed came out this year. Gone Straight OUTTA COMPTON ICONIC conor straight out a marketing ideas after that seriously fifty shades of grey. Oh Shit that it was. The first year I came up. That was the year the movie came out. Or Yeah I guess like twenty fourteen was when the no I did not I. We've not seen it either but I did see fifty shades grayer fifty more shades. I'd I don't know what the sequel. Yeah Oh you saw the sequel night and The hunger games movies were coming out at this time and I. Maybe it's just my age and I don't know who I am but I the movies. Yeah I'd I had now have five or there isn't my pocket. I don't know where but these movies didn't make any re register like didn't register it all for me. Yeah no I I saw one. Yeah 'cause I wasn't so many people were freaking out about it and I was like all right fuck it. I'll see what the fuss is and I was like. I duNNo. No No I think Alan Cumming Look School. Who'll outfit? Yeah that's about it. Yeah the people in the CAL. I don't know there was think or is it Stanley Tucci. Yes Stanley Tucci of spinal sutherland. Other people green in Hungary and was making the Allen coming great character actor. Yeah feel like the good so inside out and the good dinosaur both came out that year inside out super iconic the good dinosaur sore is probably Pixar least icon the good dinosaur. That was like a pixar movie that just nobody really give about. Yeah see this is in my blind spot. All these animated things and everyone said inside. I was really good to write. It is your it's like it's if you're old enough you can really get a deeper message out of you're young enough. It's Kinda teaching you something but Yeah Really Yeah Magic Mike Double. Xl icon accomplish That one song was that with Jeremie mining lean and thinking man whereas Steve Jobs less iconic back and there wasn't even a scene in that I know like I was waiting for the US. This one is more young No that This was the one that was actually a movie Ashton. Kutcher one was a prank video. Funnier die prank. On astier Steve Jobs movies though. Oh no no Yeah Ashton Kutcher. Did make a Steve Jobs movie. I don't know what year that was but it is. That's a prank. It could be a prank video on Ashton coacher being like Ashton Thinks we're making a real movie and like taking his performers seriously. Yeah no fuss bender. I think did had a solid performance as he dick out in this or the different. Maybe didn't yeah. That's not the one report again waiting. Where yeah you really wanted wanted this to be a sexual movie? I'm just to have that one more thing. His Day this was this was a huge year music. Music to pivot. Butterfly came out Black Messiah Dangelo. Okay I loved Angelo. But you're not a fan of this album. I I mean the band that he has and this is really good really good I know I. I don't even know why I'm even by pumping the brakes on it. It just ranks. It's it's not my favorite Diangelo. That's the only reason fantastic Jamie X.. Inland whole hour trip. Believe is how that's pretty album. Oh my gosh. And then drake had a had a big big one. If you're reading this it's too late. He's prize dropped that album to just WANNA get out of my contract and I still think it's his investor second best album and what a time to be alive with future. He dropped out. I could barely listen to that shit. Oh really yeah I the future. That's why you don't like future when I when I used to work at power one. Oh six he came in for interviews so arrogant about like what he does and I was just like Bro. Oh you're on auto tune a guy named future was eric. Yeah the guy's name. Is it around that time when he was doing the Hendrix thing future Hendrix Jimmy. I'm like you're not even close to even getting near the creative powerhouse that was Jimi Hendrix. But Hey you know you know. He's just being honest. I think there's when on his album came out how to But Yeah you're drake that hall angling dance yeah. The hotline outlined blink. Video was a thing I was. I was away after the way he was like. Everybody did like memed the fuck out. Dance or hands white move. Yeah that was one. Unlike Awkward Drake became like it was like. He's not even trying to be cooler. Maybe here's but drake's application I. The the hotline outlined blink video was to pain meam setup of like no end a yeah. Yeah that's how I'm blaming yes see this is I think. Think the beginnings yeah this is one I mean. Yeah I feel like this is the year he fully fully broke through. 'cause I mean people you know. He was selling a lot of albums before before but like he was everywhere this year. Yeah Well I think no Tony. Thirteen was a big year for him. Too because was was that. What was that album every? Nothing was the same. Yeah Yeah Yeah that Oh yeah with Just hold on we're going. I think that's when you had like like white people people who did not know about drake relax. I've got my eyes on the face and you have to see the face is making. It looks like he's playing golf while singing. The Golf Swing got my zone. You plus can lead the golf ball. I should think the same Jason Pinky ring talking these. Jose need quarantine in the same league. But we don't ball the same. That's actually to change line from to chain all me featuring big Sean. Oh God two thousand fifteen was like a real fucked. I guess continuing the trajectory of this being fucked up decade. We had the Charlie Hebdo attack Paris right off a weekend We had the German wing plane crash. Where the dude just like crashed on takeoff off on purpose into the side of a mountain We had more cops. Killing people This time getting caught on camera while I guess yes with Eric Garner. They got caught on camera. But the the one that like has always stuck out in my mind is Walter Scott in North Carolina or North Charleston South Carolina. Where he's he's running away like he had been stopped for having a break laid out and The COP shoots shoot some dead in the back and then like filed a police report. That was like yeah. He was like attacking me running at me and it just like murder. It's he's straight up like cold blooded murders the guy and you get a sense that this is what's happening when we're not I mean look such Nonstop Trayvon Michael Brown. Eric Garner Walter Scott Freddie Greg every year this happens and it's amazing. How little old people who are on this like blue lives matter shit? Our like unwilling to look at this actively and be like now this is actually. This isn't even how law law enforcement should work right back. This is state sanctioned murder right and maybe there is and you know I I know people who are in law enforcement who are not like wired like this right like sort of motivated by something sincere but like obscure these arguments by being you. People are trying to do. I mean this is what this is. What contributes to this mentality especially for African Americans country were like you know what I've we do not see justice at all and it's a continuing pattern that just does not cease and and they'll they'll be people you know continuing to protect it like this because until we see something chain until we start seeing more people Be held accountable accountable for their acts. Like even with both John his killer getting convicted most people were shocked. Yeah we see this play out. White Cop kills a person of color black doc person typically and we get to trial and it's like Oh yeah we're gonNA slap on the wrist and their demoted or they're like Nah yeah good acquitted. Walter Scott was one case where the person I actually did get convicted. But they're sentenced to twenty years in prison for second degree murder whereas like this did not seem to be second degree like heat of the moment like he just cold-blooded stood there pulled out his gun. Shot him while he was running away and then falsified the police report even that like. Does that feel like like. This dude should not ever see today again. Freddie Gray happen this year where he was killed by Baltimore Police. I'm just a fucking awful. Yeah Awful series of events and news stories that I think were very very necessary to kind of mega swear of Shit. That was happening then. This is also the kind of Discontent that's brewing in the black community. That you know can be weaponized. Going into two thousand sixteen. A lot of a lot of people were angry for all kinds of reasons at like just looking back yet games that you have all these nonstop murders of black men men and women by the police. There was a you know anyone who is looking at what's going on in our culture our society right you know maybe some had it figured out. Yeah Eh we have these ongoing conflicts right. I'm you know that's the Russian intelligence community was able to like exploit both that and there were like black lives matter like imitation websites that were used to spread messaging that like basically diminished Voter turnout prison escape in New York. That gave us escape from Dan. Amora the number one number one on story tell That and also so for is we always say the actor who plays Lyle my God He. He should want every conceivable award bridge. All that's the performance that gets the most attention running arum in our office yet between Patricia Arquette and him who I know he was in lost. Also but the way the air you know a new fare on me new. US Heaven Affair on me because you ordered off the locale menu at kings walk. Yeah and that fucked up Margarita. She makes he puts the salt in the motherfucking Margarita. The Charleston shooting happened this year. The racist terror terror attack by fucking noon Rothe Dylann roof bowl cut. Fuck yeah this also. There was some some kind of a weird trends this year. I'm trying to think of A. I feel like there was a lot of Man Bun beginning this year. Let's talk about that. No I feel like Joaquin Phoenix Jared leto. They were starting to do that. Thing within like you'll do this guys is yeah what the fuck what's up with. And then yeah and then what was a bad blood video with Taylor Swift When everyone was like who would squatter you with? Yeah who's WHO's quiz or you part of bright because so with that the the back story to that which I only learned when reading up on the right on history checking out the history books Was that Katy. Perry took some of Taylor Swift's dancers mid tour then Katy Perry was dating dip low at the time. DIPLO was caught in a viral video. Saying that Taylor swift should use some of all the money money that she makes a two by herself and asks. Oh boy then Lord was like well. Maybe people Maybe wouldn't talk about other people's physical nickell attributes if people talk about your tiny Dick Diplo and on those crickets yesterday after that. I don't know why didn't come back with the flames. Different kind of beef. Yeah different kind of beef in the pop world really wants to smoke does right it. They're just they wanted. They'll do their little passive aggressive videos and moving couple couple of the later stories from this year pizza rat zoo. This gave us pizza. Read the fifteen second clip. Oh Shit we're the rat was dragging a giant piece of pizza down down the subway stairs to like was that fake right was it. There was another one someone did. Recently there was a subway rat thing that someone did is performance are able to train her at but look I think for anybody who's been in New York or any place with a high rat population anything that's also in Fuck looking to make making a murderer came out. I remember at the end to twenty fifteen people were binge in the fuck out of making. 'cause I remember being in Japan also at this time right and looking around everyone's talking about I'm like I think we need to watch this. Yeah and that. was you know the dress. Also having this year shit where people some people thought it was blue and black white and gold Never the Twain shall meet. What were you when I need to look at whatever the pick? Whatever it was I I knew what it was? Yeah what color is the dress. I'll tell you right now as I look at it. Oh yeah this motherfucker. Blue Bloom Black. Yeah it's I've never been enable to see it to be honest with you and I think because people are. I don't know if it was because I've like fucked walked around with a lot of image editing software right that I can see how you can like dis other values might be present but to me like nobody would wear the version that people were confused off of. It looks like Poo Brown and like a weird soft lavender or something road. Never get white and gold from that. Then there there was this more recent teal and Oh now I see it for the first time. Damn that's wild shoes that look both both teal and grey and pink and white I had always seen as teal and grey you. This is like this year's version of that but it turns out everybody he also like now. They're pink and white but I just saw them as pink and white for the first time. Just now you see that you stealing greater me it. It does but then look their shoes being weight right but then look there now. What he said good gag gift would to be to by someone the address? Yeah that was a that was I think somebody rocked that dress to a holiday party that year and it was dope. Oh like that you're at do people recognize it as the dress really. Yeah because like when I see it like from the company that made it with someone wearing it it was sold out immediately. I don't think I'd be like Oh. Yes stress yes and Arianna `grande preparing for her for a her rise to stardom this year. She was in hot water for licking a donut. Oh Times guys simply and Rachel Dole Jaw. Aw Oh yeah Rachel. Dole is forget you know my sister from another Mr WELL SO RACHEL DOLLAS L was a white woman who had been pretending to be black. Is that correct. Yeah was saying that. Su I'm identifies American. Yeah well that's it later. The on ramp. They're like well hold on your out here being in part of like ACP regional leadership. And then as I identify as black and then there was a what the Caitlyn Jenner came out was that on June first I think our June second because I remember the cynical nickel take was. That was the same day that Patriot Act was renewed. And they're like Yo you our our too busy looking at that vanity fair cover over really the pace. Yeah there was the there was one. Other Renault's of the Patriot Act was on June. Yeah maybe not maybe. Don't use a huge moment for trans people to be be like. Yeah but see that was all ploy asleep. Maybe just I think if anything. It's more that like people. Don't actually actively pay attention to anything that is happening in the federal government right. Yeah the things we spend. Most people aren't really interested in the you know the matching nations and the inner workings of the government. Yeah and you're like what happened with Bruce Jenner. Yeah Call Me Caitlyn June. Yeah June second was when when this article on Vanity Fair's from so do rat Pizza Hut Pizza. Rats okay. Yeah I'm sure pizza red is thriving definitely you think so. You think pizza told other rats on pizza ret Oh yeah people. He has an agent. That'd be a good like sort of weird pixar pixar film like rats who talk and they're like kind of stunned on each other like I'm pizza rat right. I'm like well I'm splinter rat haters. Pizza reminded the need the thing that was so uncanny out is it looked like a live action gratitude. Oh yeah straight up like 'cause that that movie like his all about Brat abstract include around. Oh I've never seen rats dude I'm fucking up. I'm sorry listening to have to put a list together for you give myself. They'll Ludovico treatment from the clockwork orange holidays at mainline allies and men lining children's films. I think I'm the weird one by the way because I saw these before I had kids so you like going to movies. 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Kevin Ashley on The Tilton Talk Podcast

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Kevin Ashley on The Tilton Talk Podcast

"Life gentlemen boys and girls who won't show sponsored by all sports principal sponsor funding him city football club. Words sponsored also carries can coffee cook. Nate sis lou trust. We're also supporting the multiple local charities. So yeah we have some very special guests with us tonight. First and foremost mris brian. I wrote mr marc items. I her fund concert. We also very special guest lights and web stock goes on and so it's very special guest. Also he's former blues right back with the club from to knowing say nine hundred caffeine ashley may so plenty to get less than four months. We'll send best wishes to neko's not with us tonight some idaho of operation and he's recovering from that. So all the best to you nick. If you're watching when you watch but yeah plenty to get fruits and start with obviously saudis guy. Another disappointing defeat. And nothing's official yet. But you know. It's all but confirmed that parentis now left the club and he's going to be potentially replaced hoping lebeau you what you thought. Smart on to be honest paul absolutely. I'm blessed really really out of the candidates outlet. But i think we get the same soul buzz from a canal. Howard soul daryl tiny M not. I think he's going to be a really good Even even better if you cook get a couple of. I'm not saying the sentiments i cook a robber on side. One of the all boys ron johnson. Maybe getting rich funding for the salon just to give a boost last ten games. The absolutely i mean that that looks on the news the after that guy so highly the interview we just need somebody who can pick them up and give him a boost again. you know. i'm a big fan of eric. Eric supplies coming back to manage. Oc solvency words in the past. We've you know you can go back as far as trevor. Stay bruce gathering. Robert immortal ason and odds with these tom. Knives if it is later than You know we we can move forward positively and going the wrong direction again. You've always harney slave when he tied for us and replaced him about the special and you realize how much clues actually means them for london. Boy it takes techs into speaks volumes. Really aren't going to be a lot going to be dwells again who that realistically expect. We weren't gonna get any how we're gonna get powder walter. Just kind of silly suggestions ran. We think under the circumstances these assaults labor used a magnificent job. An strikeout of stroke refused to didn't nights try and keep him last season and opposite works in at five or so. We can't disappointed about that books. You know he's gonna come into what's now hopefully and pick us up off the floor. Sheila can take us forward and hopefully do a similar job. Gary robert did. I time enough the week the you know we was on the ananias after the heavy defeat at home to be thankful i mean charlton went down yet. But it is only about two points beyond us when you run a massive thing and also their thoughts is potentially just as batteries not is bound basketball almost stable so of fulton awake transferring bog as well son yet another one who refused from and you know not the choice even looks to the doors from no. That's one thing i think. Think so make. Toronto has to be the biggest disappointment based on experience when he died. The were august always really happy with the appointment a lobby. If that were. Bush divided one reason why we're not for in. I thought blimey all on medusa. There's been a lot of individual mistype season. Obviously including saudi just ghanem in the to again for the two of their goals was just. It's just it's it's ghost his name anina. We need we need to so it's obviously confidence and concentration level's low and morales lowest near. You can clearly see that the body language on the flies. He's good and he's coming in. Now we go and he's got massive job on his hands if we're gonna keep signing stock confirmed if it is got to be job on his answer you know. I think i think he can do we. I think you can come in an first and foremost caper soft. And then you know. Hopefully now when we're on the ice manager nearly ninety four and a half years since sats. so let's hold these on looking for these boards. You know because you can't keep sake manages every six months because he just never going to get any stability never going to go forward and or it's going to do unrest pliers as well so when you saw him for one manager and then six months lottery sat in another one. You know you're going to you know why you're almost gonna not regret see for you. Think you know on the rock scene apply because you saw him for the previous monitoring as the new management of wallpaper cleaned holly dating stealing the the the knife just trying out for captain recap syrup. Trump speed on off speaks and absolutely so But kevin kevin to the show friends to join us tonight and we cherish. Thank you so knowing ninety. Six to nine thousand ninety eight. Can you tell us about where it all started them. Would you saw given trawls club in the within the wasn't a college prep school shrooms at fourteen things about amo. I started trying to Yup your future all games you get introduced to people already saw into start trying to mme four taylor someone's schoolboy forms now whenever we used to be basically order We went on english scope which building schoolboy trials. I'm one of the country's nine. He says you're full. Buckle died on his best best move ever really failed as a fullback. The grammar fold you for football. Its own adding now. That's experience so i was happy to get out of circle as well joining elaborates on the onto the guy snowdonia many other toilet doggy dog. World remind dot u. dominated have used them like a little puppy friends or search roya Yeah people guy win. It was just the beginning. i was talking about. That wasn't my thing. She will finish pine leg and i saw enjoying lake honest giraldo's now interest to tell it alfredsson both pizza I went to doncaster three or four games. who installed. dwi with the chairman there. I went blank clock each Two years bromsgrove fears. But what i wasn't trying to dominate by gases me as committed programs eight vader. He's not trying after guy off the to get closing out. This is a company coming for. You might Us signed kevin is one of the best. Fullbacks will have seen Rice says campus quite fullback blues. Yes it's a shine reviews you you can fall fall fall in love with you when you buy it when you start by you. I might you. You might be late. Debut for us a british one one but movie community for your mind. Wells full jane blows you have to grow friday night. Som- storage tighter will be all confirmed together. Gonna i together yet. Journey joining usually joel. Not just because the job you might call. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Can you remember you. W was against west brom very much. Thank you saw dunk with increase. Well w off seeking the patriots about twenty minutes as well because the guy you just six swing it. It's probably the first play that's said and fallen out of the guy. It's more scored communist. You know they're just going to sign the guy. But i just completely solution. We get nervous. Big time just fabulous. I mean these guys get nervous about lose show off see. You don't see very often. Nine or apple can only imagine what is not applying especially items from Watch much football. Nowadays kevin you watching blues or any any teams that you used to play four general watching shawn brain nice now to adopt more. It's even in modern times china hours tackle anymore. It's yeah it is a different guy. Yeah the same thing as well. You know it's such a different guy was sent-off your obscene finance a very special guest as well and decided lacing the last twelve months so many of our players if any of applies of watching this you know i want you to take a license boat. Because he was dying but it was an ice and kept wrought on still won't tell the title. God bless you might welcome and and so you want to tell us a bit about what. You've been for swab moonlight from the yeah. Well should be getting a last year now. What some alaska. I am blues just before that started. Lock and for always gonna stop back up again and i going to work and because i'm a bike so i had to get to work in. All of a sudden fell within within a couple of hours always wished And cook six weeks later in intensive care what was happening in the world. All couldn't speak khandu move. My legs said he said so footage thing was that got me a voice box to on seoul could speak and the first thing said to. My dad's was on the side with highs football game. I blues believed in allah villa dying yet in. It was just almost deloitte. And you know you're on you're interested in these asking this guy in and he said nothing The sold will laws. Because i haven't seen any thing. I went into hospital from the beginning of the epidemic literally just like having to learn. Nothing was happening tonight. So i said obviously call of liverpool won the league off now. Everything's come to stem the stale and like not made our to to learn to walk. Never seen again. Because there's just funny things in my head. I just thought i wanted to be to the football adultery. Gatty these little things to italian netted a it gratitude. Every way i will from digress to up to the grind. I literally was fighting my family in science today after one step. Today i've done two steps any signs crazy night when i was trying to work out. How many steps that after. Learn to do to be able to walk everything each for granted. He's taken away. Yeah obviously in for four and a half months in treatment and offers fit in house eighty rightful self Took stunted and just hit man at what we roy. I an ad from blues fines and playas and you saw it just makes reload the club. Eva mole because it just like a family to may i talk about talk about bain brive No nothing on your lights. You'll the bride one. You've got to choice The oil you give off. There's no in between you know you've gotta you've gotta give it all on up other tests shelly. Why you're gonna get anywhere kicking off when you lowest when you re failing wasn't ever it's only croaking. Well mewa was called into always decided to make some pretty. Yeah about three children. One heard what was happening. Say that's the one guys. The football way of say not louis terrible for her because just slightly above on us to adjust lot we do everything together Yeah there was times where he taught. Scoiety them you just think i'm an i will You depended on the great stuff and ever said i am a law was in their hands and all i could put the f. emma south but their efforts were mayes in as well But yet it was told us where it was guy. what about. Now are you on medicaid of you have to go into house meet. I'm on many tablet. Some lock you've got the as we're after twelve lot vizier. You've just keep pushing die and To get to as much as i can to normality malivai so hopefully wednesday things get back to normal. Hopefully aukin Things that used to before it back down the olen The most of it of up and given a second chance sprint for those listening like covy ward for four and a half months. Yeah yeah you stay so you some things that yeah you could hail you wound up this things that you say that econ- take away people that don't believe it a few it's obey the over to some day. Yeah yes exactly. Yeah just signed before we came on what it would be like if labor you resigning what would have been logged dying that if we could all time. Yeah are ya electric. Yeah we at least for the big guy in the new manages. The atmosphere I think he just needs a. I think he needs. Somebody said got device yet. An somebody has got to put some passion back in the day after. Be the best manager. Instaflex that they've just got to get the best out of what they've got They all they all look. They drained a slow like mentally drives. Young not a. I think it just needs somebody to pick them up and i think the ten guy was. We need at least a may. Also we started gone really well on saturday and we oppose twice. You know we started wild and then ultimately so it's an individual state. The comes from nowhere. We go one day a not say any against we did we did. We did against cover diner. We managed comeback win the game. So he's there. You got the finding of a new group of lots we've got. We have got some complies in that squad and a think really lucky side. We just need supply for to their strengths on. I'm doug about if sorry. Paul is gonna say Released knowing a son of the soulful to pay more. Retrieve juke need not not jackie's under he's a he's a he's looked to spend force looks. We've said it last week. I'll say causing juki stays monkey number all of i got to be realistic but then again too raw from juki it'll new mattress or new menu comes in and things just things differently so would look to say super kept back phillips as i struggle up. Joe johns beats. We've gary mom to say. Kevin phillips common levi be amazing eight certainly getting fund getting funding where the nazis more than say koo koo potentially bit Us added yeah. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah play on the in calling. Cook show was too. Ask him to come back. I'm taking credit for that. Saving up again and you you said it. Roy says he just signed an lebeau. Yours manager jerome said. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. yeah yeah. Yeah kevin who was the best player with the blues. I mean your whole career balloons. Cy should it because he was a great truck all news. Then he's more andy's career synagogue plan is to gripe problem trying every was popularly properly so outside and more but those rules won't every one of my five races. Akita never moved priced. We still go just to jump in the shower. There that's been in the old career State is awesome. Buller ability wasn't the best eight restraints rarely only was The score against yeah. Yeah maybe we can pull cook. We'll be denison whole birch. Jeff did you probably up now. He was optimistic. Anthony garbage snapped to think when i was doing a charity football fundraiser. A kevin actually came along and donate to the blue shirts and he warned these debut. Absolute top plus that story until you actually on inch on the ship. Okay okay yeah will my school. I went to tell if what we wind clo- why call it will mile and they got me a job as you say the race just said don goodman new at the back of the network click on the third division teddy sheringham. Yeah when it was the funniest amongst blows place when he was there. Would you saw the funniest. The one the one that was best iran Chinese lawsuit tech titan. Matthew fox fries. You wouldn't you think but you'd never do. Yeah yeah we've got got tight easycall stories any funny stories. You can tell us a by without getting anybody from anywhere anywhere anywhere will do not give the reason. You're obviously. If not then yet anywhere. We belong to his office. You can wolves bicycle We use on tour and swayed from his leg in sokoll. Not not intentionally was all kicked off spitting vice dutch english. These whatever august since off anyone's open to china room something every four minutes restaurants afghanistan abundance told get just gonna coach us. We were in trouble for hours back just to get just to get away from the grind by holy morning trying to die for trying to manage and so on so abused set of trying on trying to injured players in just to be suspended for the first three games so assist manager and so on paying off your opinion concern. Assistance to gaza says unexpected manage on since off not one of them spouts. No nothing we get back to. England rose matlock burning coaching lower noise. We ought to the east bay festival honoring stuff when we got the couch. The base sign noise the hotel where we stayed tonight on the locals puts a discount for the sold to turn the. He said we will get to the gym bear festival. She and i were to our security. We will go together. Come out to you. Though you counsel we got right now with a lot the chow should that you said you could. If he was cloth were diners spread three crocker moon. I think markets on. He's going to go to bed. Lean of used to drink. He's gone down. The lots said the upstairs in the foyer and caucus look there. Grindstone gotti pendrey. The chairman was chairman. Soon wrote the gripe clubs secretary. You're not day could turn would speaks megyn. Northbound i was mad can get speights. Cookie said when come down to the restaurant walk stairs cookie gather together and offered up some chance dance upstairs power leche slaughtered eleven crap through crap manager working reduced then broke into singing. Capable of tables estimation daycares. Go find following morning trying to be made sincerity lowest. Next should be caught at one morning idiots an incident ruben. A tool never make enough surprise. Should on the roads when i go to the following die because diving's done was a report of an option piper later announcement. Sign the stuff the staff and saying you is what the challenge. What is almost in the bias discussed anew. None of them was ready. Made about those look like it was intentional. There was not only sellable dunkin the wrong we broke his leg to fe. He was a he was getting onto again to actually bryk some these leg and they the noise for cigna's horrible noise There's no intention there was. My doctor is intentional About too much england's alternate trying ground out a phone call from the grind so you gotta go say grind so We shall lead fell by me. Augusta walls three or four on in the four when i was there on isolated sixteen. That's what that might be. Just says he said what. You transfer crested nine accept. It always always joe. This was in the august august You twenty grand grindstone sorry september whereas if only to transfer on so why not twenty runs remind us an awesome awesome for not gone job in september two fair to cerny says he also assaulted. The chairman would honor. That's when he grandpa if you go wherever we still you're not here with onerous pretty involved in this and that was that he just released audio cards but it was at wolves murder and reporter put it in the you know so when funds is there anyone uprising like oh that's pretty good there Enjoy to against uday causing. Yeah jason. Let's love questions committee. Jason mcdonagh's just asking what's kevin's five. Rick moment what What was in a pleasure and in your whole career. Deputy likely w for blues. And you don't even on school. The national contracts. Yes who wants to there was a lawyer. do you deputy yet. Hope jowls guilty when people are left of women for you from the alexander. We've made me once. Most was only goal crazy. Cry coatings austin. Kevin was clubbed the real load songs. But phil's walk on this and patriot fencing incapable on from the old cop about the old as you call them and night grains crash not misfire. There's four three or four four hundred blessing not so all things one of the best on ground fan definitely between them. Besides you at the club windows or jackson to know what. What were you. Memories of in northbound was on that real real nor smoke rose by. Yeah you still in such. They stink from kevin not so much now used to privacy elwood blues all stars and stuff like that. But i'm stop lying. Spoke mean confining. We gets give it to them in every now and again. Look at copen christmas stuff. I've been almost offer. Well-nigh not a on five dollars spoke about six months ago honest yes under kennedy solid. These remember it was against but he scored the first goal i- sorts and unders aged. Yeah ya introduce may find. And he was all downhill from. There is it's fine. I was talking me. We'll have to some social optima these backing down and counties just for wall he's bucking showed lightens built on that you would apply to you. Want you ya okay. Is that why you go around. I six yeah. Yeah yeah what a should been quick lights off a question for you. Lighten linda nurse. She just plays us light new. He's five blues. Player is obviously ever ultra. James remains an show which pies she gets wish. You well favorite. Go forever. I i just. I love wholesales yet. He sent me a message. Wet all hospital tonight on devlin young robbie salvage i tweet semester bellingham out but just just like host failed still put oil live a metric. The he wasn't the previous by a always it always it always my not easy for that vendor reaches only guy. He's only been shopping culture. Yeah yeah robbie guide me a call and it was really because you know a bit of sop the bed. I was getting saw him in each to may and we. We actually chat whether you full less the really wedding to the referees. Really my a pick me. Pick me up but it was. It was always Yeah yeah what you five. Blues moment lights. If you could go back and relive a blues. He was asked. What would you not one. That was out but the colleague is probably my favorite and dole or soliman us for in the ad Tele and on six now folks so she still. She was only she really to the time. I just grabbed just grabbed her. I'd probably said not being there. But that's probably my favorite one for billionaire. Wilson really a massive moment men madonna tour the guy in sheffield wednesday and twenty six day. We was one ole and juke. School known Hi wally supposing after that guy 'cause if very easily goes way on a welcome they leading a what how About to kafr route deeper financial related friends role villafane side. I was in a good mood to say. Mci but known it could go either. Way is fine. You can lose a game in the last few minutes. But within the game in the Just was suppose. Blessing that long son kevin. What was your favorite time that you lose you w. debut could have you got any of those. You're live long in the memory. Now we've been deputy be honest. You dream yeah. Yeah as it your phone or be a phone million. W what would you say if you can remember these fall by. When he was on the pitch yourselves. What would you say. It was the best goal that you've seen schoolboy when you buy testing u. memory now is on the dick michelle until throughout just sentimental reasons to why we drag on on the news and fare costs and greg rusedski. That's probably right right. What's right what's what was it like playing under a chairman. Ken weldon never ready. Never expect out. so he was that All she been the first day date. Naci way up your mind. Yeah whichever way you look at a few few You know beijing's against all the right. It might seem old from the lakes. Yeah yeah i don't know must know how many times you've been get sent off on wounds professionally because if you if you want candidate right shops towards soccer so you've doubled twice. We that was. That was a little bit. Ne- wouldn't competitive guy design bonds for around around rommel rambo off your best. There's the best manager you have applied for your whole you. Job of apparently side to joe jones bones. It was good for me. Jim bungles new. Say the best coach or contributor was up probably for and it was assistant of dive accord Baby was also floyd roy. Come together blows equal as they ads. Ten fifteen years ahead of the guy raw it. We tapered the boards. Used to tell a fullback suspecting the ball before was push on center offscreen causing. Must if you go back in time and do anything different in your playing career. Well over not just went downhill. From kimberly kevin a stool mount. He's lost game for us. We beat stoke away. One one no with a non gleghorn goal. Or what the all china into the window that win. The actual bracken's stunned on fridays. Did you tried to be honest. Anthony gaba side as well. It's them you call justice story cook guy wasn't there's another one is last minute of the game also also actually scored from it as well acceptable as i'm going to intercept these probably back of this economy shoulder tour Bobby ferguson was on the back before he was eight high. Switch the coach. Go back or start. Always ask the public shortstop. Bobby focus on you know. It's really ryan's family is. We'd gone is lean highway big citation. Nope never off every over. Moved lynch growled organized. Dave brat sway. I was moving story from sage cameras. Really he cleanses kevin. Did you playing. The same team is called. Richard yeah well well outside sort of applied with. Yeah go coach sean. From cautious the next party when you he did he had a song penned you you not by sister now saying well we i got through the child play much male and he's disappeared. Bigly that we know that we could use post smut. Brunei's is an independent penguin from over. He's not a manager. He he's a. He's an assistant manager concern transparent. She's co barsha on populist paper. You have even when things weren't going to die sean. Lots of beijing district gripe easy grow. That's what he's around. The only thing you were just wasn't a manager. you can blame you. You know he couldn't tell you. What was your favorite white grain supply out. What when you apply to wide from what would you say was the best stadiums applied it just royle. Just ultra don't traffic strange because the peach compact once the peach when we unbelievable Good goodison park. Yeah yes that's a proper stidham and yet that's another one. That's another one that soon to be gone. And that's they're going to move closer to live on a call richards. Sorry my dad always said said the worst song ever call richards call which is much w we lost four one. And west brom yongbyon vincent got sense of stumping on the worst manager you have applied boo worst manager not make career. You have applied. Yup affleck will jump up. Not recovered igniting overpaying manager and he's not not shocking remember. I remember that night outnumber the night i am. I don't ever wasn't even who's in the guy so far recently. Yep i'll tell you. What if we if we got bates on the scene of the game to garage eight would be to win anymore. Policemen but we prank hybrids the woods with pays abrupt beta thought. Once you know you go to obviously the height between them so johnny smoker each other to beat refunds going to china to her after. The guy is coming off to imagine john still now. We know that these these days now remains the funds. We should a door. They say funds from the slows jumps to get things amount of the dog store. Just got this picture now. Thinking about trump's comey chris. If you've got the got the lead. The i've got loose somewhere. We do what we do. Now he's we apply for the former blows pie speaking. I would go to try and get them east. I kevin me from your. That's the only clue. I'm giving if you know is titles but just tell us the first la research nine if you think you know. We never get safer viewers can get. Is this week's who i think. The important thing is outlets when it's all it won't be part of a winning same and there's nothing like you know it's an places like dallas and sets out in front of you as a such even if you went back yet be he's gonna give me important things out. Let's talk about it won't it. You're part of a winning same. And there's nothing like you know when you turn up places dallas in and he sets out seem frana via the such a single notices. Pools pull fisher. Professor brewers nonstop through snuck like all right ran era. Yeah you might say this now. Anything can and i'm still on outing at kindergarten. We'll come back and on youtube. A dean madame says was running club. Interested the wolves in buying you and blues dean. The yeah i underground before last night at the beach grind china when he was at villa in quebec. Put a includes. watched hoffman. It was too much beaten. They said he was too much for an android devices Just on a novice was actually at images. Monster walls in villa Another couple of watching it. Maybe it's so good youngster finance story scott's if you watch evanston hovering nothing concrete site on to keep any momentum nuclear shots metals And souvenirs i used to. I'd lows it's videos programs article shirts and for remorse lottery. The customer base in florida And we we wanted to move there. By resold resold everybody asks america also everything saddam now shining on youtube. Marquan says was steve wigley. Dean says yes. Yes yes it was. Well done mark on youtube stave weekly yet. He's fatso record gets originally. Can't send you yet since you have for that one because that was an easy as long can only mr swear word on road one. No no the unless somebody said the word they bring the ajc one. I stay high garden near the if i want now. Yeah yeah ninety three. I don't mean through it now. A republican roy. On why would he was watching. The guy smell sent it state says bring. Dj spoil the new blokhin. The blue rope is nowhere near six thing. We've ask you to do as well kevin. He's ninety blues once eleven away. From the present you pied we forest off seen yes spe. We want the best players that you pies with for us during your Your andrews far away go a dining statement. He's joining us. Could you say when you saw it implying for us was gonna go wants to become would you. Would you have predicted his career. White wins. Yeah he has was a big unity in massey's yup the haunting your mind yeah Be of the call kitwana. Yeah yeah the shapes affects some fantastic. Runsen left-back geared in dick's citizens. Are they not kings. Driven masterson on sumit failed. Does that is moving casper. robot pins wardrobes northglenn on the left or clock statement from with some now. That's a good solid that would be. It would be a catchy. And he's gonna joan baez manager. Jump on does money julia. Let's get wiser. Hope you might not see. Even after months it all again in his career was you. Don't think he did well now and racist right rents in school. The best goal disobeyed for blues on ever seen says right around school. The best goal disallowed the blues. I've say think may be pederson of the chat. A conflict being disliked of raleigh renou supplement. Goal has been dislike. Count cry just sent me picked. How many red cards would you say from. It is going new clashes. we left on the pitch after. Oh imagine what would the christmas. Well hoppy wouldn't drink much not. It'd be sickness sober substitution slows. When i was one of the wolves because royce titus pozingas company hated millwall. His war club gonna bring me back for moves of some raising their inevitable lowest. End up sewing rollback. Gary ties you. We'll tell you about malta. Ltd saving rocks if one includes the move back to blues when you went some millwall on loan. Didn't they and caught. I think he was going to go. On larry and then he finished oxford. Did nothing associates to be honest. That was when. I think that was when trevor was eight. Not barry frog because i was managing it was okay downtown. Possibly never and then. Yeah it never left the club. And so trump francis was in charge on blues. Cut a couple of people said we got in your You'll want y. Wino- vincent service been Actors on these experiments. A tossup between being honest love good tic- played for millwall. We saw for millwall on loan but never played things gone soins on on on on off last night. I seen him on scoop so lights. What was your first. Job was a fab ole remember who is again It was in. It six holdover. Bemba was telling me not to stumble the metal barriers on the terrace. Ali was tweet spitting round was blue school at i a squashed against the arias Be like we've todd Kim i'm not gonna start to get out was trying to explain to me before all seats and ever When when i schooled you just went with everybody else. And i as old and i just couldn't breathe as against With china bit what we is about. What's andrews was like. You know when when when when kevin applied and the all school board. And we mentioned the old robin reliant as well as being the lord bobbins alliance something else will blue cars a rubbing beloit disabled coz. I'm not going to repeat what you said earlier. We're getting just to repeat what we said earlier. back neak. Sharon's a message meters. I is operations a lot bigger than nettie. Understanding has worn off a lot a lot of pine that keeping me. Can you tell the listeners. And everyone for him please. So sending our species to nick get better soon well-suited nick net. Yeah so So the money. I'm on wednesday at my ready. We're actually on sky sports football and not ready. I'll say we'd be promoted in red. The red button footsie terribly isn't it. It's not the best is there's no there's no replies the the i mean the quality's cave you've got good wifi birth. It's still not easy. It's not good shameful. So i get on about the team in general i tonight did you for them. Yes yeah yeah. Yeah yeah definitely the east. But you know i think what. I'm hoping it's all the ninth tomorrow morning. If not so annoyed. It's probably light now oregon smart morning. It'll be smart. Deposit rotates out of read and he's better than nothing watch. Marlins just reminding me that too. Yeah those those blue three things i would. Underneath the clock they used to apply stretchers or with this stretch type. I can totally confused at disciple. Cars pitched pitches drive was injured on the back of their checks. Join us just says a lot on blues tv whereas the siamak for every guy shit blue jumper chinos combranch shoes of looked. I'll tell you what though loving new you're not on saturday that's really more scientists and not much. Img m j logistics and lung free. the one. that's so loud that he's gonna cut cut runs off. Croix comes up a lot of people talking about you disabled. 'cause you're not you are chelsea as well. I think the common thing gets a lot of grandeur was cup run away in the clock very faint memories of komo's know what formation we'll blow your ply. We're to pull as long as we don't care just above the results now eight mustang guys just got the results set not yet just snacks points if kevin when you play was more by just getting the result getting their winning the guy when you play while we win two or three niddle. Four nettles then. Then he's news also remind guys you comply vision blues mini from coins. Going to get as many points as you can. Exactly what the next season and gonna say what would you mind set by planet night funds prematurely anyway is still that was paid still net must be. That's found any funds walden is to them elsewhere says boy. We not mentioning. We did the attitude so we think is going to be installed liked to know early morning. What you think yeah. I think it's going to be announced tomorrow. Iran because I can get the dressing room on soy and just in yeah restaurant. What about that stuff. We thinks about him backroom stuff. I'm not sure management samar moments of something. Who's got ryan him at the moment as well as i am left johnny jackson. Actually they said he stein at the club these time but i think he's dealers look to think that's what you the now not mkaku tire that same something that seems to happen. Angela leaves a club backroom stuff with him. Well that's the thing went from perspective. You know we just saw the. You know the calling cup. Not so possibly Unbiased not swimsuit redone. I usually it's usually served as watts offset said that the star of the show unites us up. This won't happen the next player as a manager. They the club. The fans off applies will relate to him as well So yeah hopefully he can. He can get the best of their strengths and we can stop to claw wife from you. Know from the from trouble yeah. We think we've proved again. Discovering rates plays Flayed hmo just stick with british. Yeah march smoke. A knows lieko liquor could get the best of him because say it. Didn't they get very well for them. Become a think. Out of respect for nichols while these recovery i wanted to alaska state as well in in a couple saw him off. Just what was something. So we'll do a last fifteen as well. What we do kevin as we think of jets and he's a word association so i'll come up with a a subject and abuse up the lot relies. It's a football so for example we had a building site and we have lot gravel morrison or or hurry hurricane you know so. It's been a fun philosophy. They minutes sticks nix. It's one six five and usually usually like lobbies often very shortly. Mock to bring marc boeing with him as coach. What do you think yeah. It's a good show. Yeah there's no links that there's no difference between for dancing think mark bones we've laid not sure charlton mink value himself but there's charleston man. Yeah constantly honest. The coach off. He's very attack yet. I would sign up nut. But definitely kevin phillips survey a lot paperless shopping for roberts combat out of focus from back as well. Yeah involved only in some capacity in akron team. Skopje room for sure we could. Have you could defensive. Coach in an attacking coach couldn't keep it up. Kevin phillips desire and sake coach and was defensive. Coach twin thousand writing stoff healthy. No could ride your says. Oh i think half is backroom stuff for funding spanish. That's look kevin phillips. Kevin phillips if could says benches miss your steve gallon marshall. Shelter your nose out of those the annual goalkeeper. Wasn't you'd have member the last day for lights on. We're going to do anything that you would find in a bike ride associated football some stupid critical on the hawks. Says leap lebeau. Your took his training to term on the convinced. A new contract jets onto training ground exactly chocolate started to deregulate tim. Flowers ivy bone also chocolate definitely a couple of divy buns christoph dough gary spelt on on done on. Oh no good while mike cobb. Instead of raba compound coupla latchford joins ace and good news to your kevin wolves losing more. No nice and apparently johnstone's chris cub dugarry. Michael appleton should have been at blues. Not cry god. Now aged should go along with your useless coaches poll. Covington conference cobbing sonya. Scotty claire quiet. Ed greg salford apple turnovers and apple juice. The frankie boons are still coming. Nowadays kept scott. No no no no somebody else's mace one extreme to the other. So what did you do immediately. After you left full salvage. Oh yeah outsource. We be joplin helpful to them as well full mile. They never make it gene pasta pasta date. Msn it's that with the bike team a cubby stalls benson babson poking bread divy. Did you have a good solid. Did you could sort it role. Modeling tools around your. That's good defense avenue. Johnson all depends on what about what about 'em strudel. Destroy one curry sauce. That's didn't get to work or you stood up on of hype back next month's just just hit a lot of hurdles to speak wanted to the risk to get. What did you do by a local offered by for become play were in bromsgrove. Where kevin okay. You don't even know. I live lights live ready. Job regionally from birmingham. Yeah i think it's more of a solid Yeah yeah talk so yeah. Pizza beans league nice and bike. Bak- cristiana role nelga yuksel. Bill can time whisk whiskey. Lee w w we know Trice hundred convention while lights in a fight. You charity walk. Yeah yeah that yeah. I'm hoping with some of the stuff from the united chess on some people with way going to be Wilkin snow done in june hopefully Tattle let Kids situation just under the I was leaving walking so hot to learn to will again. So i'm hiking say will stay at. I'm on behalf of the primrose. Hospice it molly. Family in kids wave kohl's johnson suppo- just ought to give something back to them right. Yeah crossed boone. Hook crossmark pong. Pizza look grants. Mickey mickey umbrage with pizza pizza pizza giving kevin if you want sold. Why for the pundits south have you been off off about three months. The yeah philanderer. Not a wait. Wait wait seven kings is that you can you hire a group and bill was no crew which is a pulse of agreement. Radiation it wolves. Oh just think of the poboy. The bills let bill. That was built in of saito for both muscle huge huge and that was bigger than the hash russillo last week. Mom newman kingston. Sticky hoffy berry. Froing joe talks stiffen the boom okay. We'll frequently style Are we going to style. Yes oh yeah yeah play. I think it's going to be. I think he's gonna be close. Yeah i think. I i think the first couple of gangs of now if we can get a win and a drawer wins more coming in. I'm not yet. So i think to the last night we don't do anything The issue why do we need a brother. Many more gunston room. Obviously in the circumstances while robert com file some stackable. But they're going to be allowed. So have you done something about. It should be allowed to come in full importance guys. They pose to malaga four four nine than i. I'm not respond. What you reckon cabin. What's your sign. Direct style thinks last guy knows as you. Yeah give you a chance. We'll we'll style skin of eyesafe looking and then we and then obviously we really can't kick on then given summer you know in y buffoons. We've got support emotionally. Which is good funds we can we can. We can take you forward from that. The the big the big. The big question really has got to be. Do we think dongle behavior next week a week from now. You think that it's gotta be surely night. Karanko was he's last chance to learn over the thought person neighbor. Don't you don't know what the plan is. And we don't know dare and there's obviously as the life of raising So let's white. Concise is not just white and say i'm hyping delays to the different package vinogradov for unite. The champagne don't always think and we haven't mentioned approach. We haven't mentioned the process either way ten of the Hats off to them. Efforts do that and then later proactive. You know. I mean some people said oh. It's embarrassing no that foot at least that they're in and what what more can you do. We talk to the ground. So you've got to be practiced pfizer. Exactly go back to the room. They've postponed five so far. Three for covert and two for the weather. Arena on roy. Hungry to quickly brett says do we think the we big plan clear. The only yet seen days to be now yesterday. We do need an oklahoma. You know we need to. We got some complies. Don't get me wrong. We do need some look Improving certain areas definitely. Yeah we've come to tell him. Toll unbelievable really any equity goes. Yeah can be given up. It's hard might depression. So he'd say yeah. The problem might all the best features while night and enlighten. You keep might keep doing what doing a kid. recovery the aquatic soon. And get normality. Thing you when you back as well now a pleasure my we can get down the blues as well. So you know i was Probably the mind if probably reason is tamara. that's probably the most something to fading winds in sync. We've not been able to go. Because i cannot eat matching would've been like you know with us with us would have been electric. Would nick for no. it's not. Yeah yeah well. Let's just i. Roger johnson's with imo. I i'm kevin phillips comes in with him. Robot comes back all you know and then you got labor yours while widely would have just been a also atmosphere. When's he would have been. It would be rabbits. First guy queens actually put prediction prediction. Winston kicked off with housing town. One one four one nil blues. No hope i'll go to one nobler. Let's get to the you take point yet. Obviously a federal but yeah you know it wouldn't be about stockings reading about saw taking. Hopefully that can just completely clear all the demons now makes. He's just been horrendous home. You see quila know and we can solve moving forward so the end of the season but we got what i want for the wild side. Here's what wage on that one as well so blows get another draw lighting august withdrawal guided new money jewel jewel. Also knelt guys. Okay good good. Everybody could see nigga only.

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DC vs Baltimore & Lots More w/Jason LaConfora

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DC vs Baltimore & Lots More w/Jason LaConfora

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Sheehan show now here's Kevin. Jason Lockenfora will be our guest on the show today Jason. Of course, a big part of CBS sports is coverage of the NFL. He wrote for The Washington Post covered the Redskins for several years and we'll get into a lot of things with Jason. He'll spend some time with us here shortly. Wanted to start with this. We talked about that encouraging news yesterday with Tommy. Sort of a depressing day with Tommy, talking about things like death by dignity and He was just a Downer for most of the day yesterday, but I uplifted him briefly with some encouraging news from the World Health Organization the World Health. World Health Organization coming out on, Monday. in saying that those with a symptomatic cases of Corona Virus the probability of them, spreading the virus was very rare. That was really good news, because for a while there you in just a a month or so ago. We're very concerned about the symptomatic cases. We didn't know how many there were, and we're learning more and more as testing increased, but just the thought that you could be walking by somebody with no symptoms, and they could spread it just as easily somebody with symptoms. was you know one of those concerning thoughts while the World Health? Organization came out on Monday and said Nope. Don't have to worry about a symptomatic cases. They don't really spread it very rare that a symptomatic person with corona Venus can spread it and I mentioned Tommy. It seems pretty obvious to me, doesn't it? Like if you're in a car or if you're in an elevator with somebody, has it unless they cough for the scream and spit you know, how are you? Are you going to get it from them? What from there breath? If you're you know distanced a little bit from them. It made sense and at one point I said Itami. Look, we may be entering that period where you know. If you're sick, you go home, you stay home. You don't go to work. You don't go to school and that seemed actually get him a little bit excited in encouraged. Will per usual with the World Health Organization and others during this crisis. They backtracked from it. You know it didn't take long. It took less than twenty four hours for them to say yeah We aren't really sure about that. there's just too much unknown for us to say that a symptomatic cases that it's rare for them to spread the virus and the CDC came out and said that there was. A forty percent chance that in a symptomatic person, could spread the virus others of set up to sixty percent chance. So that brief fleeting encouraging moment with Tommy yesterday. Trump completely i. mean just wait a day or two, and it might change back the other way. Who knows a couple of other things to get you real quickly before we get to Jason Lockenfora and we get him on the phone. The The radio show has included now on a weekly basis, Chris Cooley, my old radio partner and a frequent guest on the podcast. Cooley has been joining me the last two or three Wednesday's for about an hour to an hour and a half, and I think that's going to become more common, so if you're not listening to the radio show I encourage you to do so. The team nine eighty dot com team, nine eighty APP Alexa Google home. If you're not in your car but we are talking about something that first of all time I talked about yesterday Cooley was very much in agreement. That if you had a redraft or draft of the entire NFL as, ESPN DOT com did the other day that there is no debate as to who the number one pick is in that draft. It's Patrick mahomes hands down, not debatable, and he agreed with me also to a certain extent that it's the first time in many many years that you can say that the NFL has a clear cut best player in the League. He suggested that Russell Wilson or Aaron Rodgers, which was I think the two players that I mentioned to I through D. Shawn Watson in there but that Rogers and Wilson would be one. One of those two players would be number two pick. He was blown away by certain players that were picked in this draft. You know early like drew lock even though he's a fan of drew lock and Ronnie Stanley the offensive Lineman and we both sort of agreed that a guy like Matt Stafford in particular was drafted way too late as part of this, he was drafted by Baltimore at the end of the first round of this ESPN. You know drafting of the entire League which was done by all of the ESPN beat reporters but the the point well actually real quickly on Matt Stafford. I know I I've mentioned this before on the podcast I like Detroit as a team and I. I know of like them before in the past I like Matt Stafford two things on Stafford. One I do like him more than Kirk cousins when I've mentioned Stafford before. People say yes, but you would still take her cousins. No I I always compared the two I. I thought they were comparable quarterbacks, not necessarily in style, but in productivity, but I like Stafford. More, you know if you given me the choice, even a couple of years ago, and even now I think I'd take. Stafford think Stafford's thirty one years old. Stafford was off to one of the best starts to his career last year when he got hurt last year. Year was a season in which he was putting up massive numbers through the first State Games before he got hurt, he was on pace for five thousand yards, thirty eight touchdowns ten interceptions. You know a great season. They were three four and one at the time they had lost a lot of close games to a couple of really good teams. They lost the. The game at home to the chiefs that they could have won. They lost a one point game, too. The packers lost a close game to Oakland. Tied Arizona in the opener. I thought Detroit was a pretty good team. Anyway. coolies thoughts on the overall ESPN draft of the entire. League were similar to Mine but then we got into a conversation about. The teams that we thought were absolutely locks to be playoff teams in twenty twenty. We did a lot of football talk today and a couple of teams that we thought would be surprises than than I took calls I wanted to mention something about that segment first of all. There's an increased playoff format in starting in two thousand twenty seven teams per conference one. One team gets a by one to get a triple header. The opening NFL weekend next year playoff weekend in both conferences. That'll be exciting. That'll be fun. That'll make wild card weekend. Really really spectacular six games, not for but we both agreed on the absolute two locks in each conference at that. You would put out there right now in the AFC. The Ravens in chiefs. If you were to pick two locks prior to the season, starting that would be to playoff teams, the chiefs in the Ravens in the AFC in the NFC we both, said the forty niners, and the buccaneers with Brady, and with Gronk et Cetera, and I think a lot of people would say the same thing now we know what the NFL is every year basically half of. Of the playoff field changes from the year before, so that led us into a conversation about to surprise teams per conference that we thought had a chance to make the playoffs in twenty twenty. It's June tenth I get it, but it just got us into a conversation about a lot of different teams in a lot of different rosters to which was interesting to sort of start to. Reengage with the NFL and the rosters, and what teams did in the off season and how they drafted Sarah. The first thing is coolly picked Cleveland. DENVER, in the AFC, and the rams, and the giants in the NFC is two teams who did make the playoffs last year. Who would make the playoffs this year? He really likes the giants roster, even though he's not completely sold in Daniel Jones. My surprise or teams that weren't in the playoffs last year that were going to make the playoffs this year in the NFC, I had the lions and the cowboys, and again the lions because yes, for whatever reason they seem to always lean. On the Lions in my belief, that Matt Stafford could have a big year but they also have some talent on that team. They were good team last year decent team before he got hurt maybe on the verge of a playoff season if he hadn't gotten hurt I'm and then got hurt and they fell apart but they. They've got talent on that Detroit team. If you look at that team, closely You've got Kenny Golladay who's turned into a star wide receiver. You got a bunch of running backs and carry on Johnson who hasn't been able to stay healthy, but remember they drafted the Andrea Swift. In the second round, they got themselves a real potential stud in the second round at running back. They also defensively. Drafted Jeff Okuda, let Darius Slay Go, but drafted Jeff Okuda a Lotta. People think one of the real talented may be highest. A Pre. Highest evaluated best evaluated corners in the draft in a long long time so I picked Detroit, and then I picked. Dallas I mean Dallas is roster is certainly capable with a new coaching staff. That's been the weakness. If if you like Mike McCarthy on Luke. Warm to McCarthy anything is better than Garrett, but you add CD lamb. You keep Cooper You've got Zeke. You've got back whether it's franchise tag or not. You got a team that if it's better, coached could easily win the east, so those are my two picks in the NFC. My to surprise picks in the AFC were envy with Philip Rivers, even though he did seem to lose some arm strength last year. I like that team. I like that I I liked that team last year. If you recall with Jacoby percent, I thought percent was going to be better than he was. And then the other team was the jets that I gave out I like the jets roster first of all Sam Darnold Fan I think Sam Darnold is GonNa. Be really good. He's entering that third year. They added the Baylor receiver in Denzel. mims the added the big left. Tackle from Louisville MCI Becton They've got levy on bell. who wasn't overly impressive last year? They've crowder and then defensively. You know they got guys like Jamal. Adams in Quinton, Williams some really good young talent. I am Greg Williams is the defensive coordinator I look at that division that the jets are in and Buffalo's the favourite in that division, and I think justifiably so a slight favourite over New England. Who knows what new? England's going to be like without Brady for the first time, but there's something about that jet team last year. When you watched it with Darnold darnold miss some games early and Luke faulk. faulk The Washington State quarterback came in, and they got blown out without Darnold, but every game that darnold played in basically with the exception of a game against the Patriots were all there for the taking they played the Ravens light in the late nearing, and got blown out in Baltimore. They won six of their final games. The jets did in Darnold keeps getting better, so the jets were my pick there. I wanted to also just get to one of the other results of this conversation this morning. Every single team in the NFL between Cooley and I and all of the callers, every single team in the NFL with the exception of two. Were thought to be potential surprise teams in the NFL next year teams, it could go from not making the playoffs to making the playoffs. which seems unusual, but it really isn't. The only two teams that weren't selected by anybody on twitter anybody when we opened up phone lines, or by Cooler Yours truly were the bengals and the jags. They're the only two teams that nobody's giving any chance to making surprise. Run to the postseason. We had people say the REDSKINS. Now you might say well. That's comes with sort of the. You know the local bias which is fine. I had a caller call in and say look at Miami's roster and tell me you don't think that the dolphins could be much improved in a division that could be somewhat wide, open, and yeah, you know if you look at Miami first of all, you're making a big leap. The to is going to be healthy, but even if you don't make that leap to. To to Ryan, Fitzpatrick can play you know and they've added a bunch of players, and they've added added a bunch of young players. You know in recent years and Brian. Floors I thought did a decent job remember they went from being a team that looked like they were tanking early to a team that was incredibly competitive over the second half of the season. So you know even Miami I guess it was my point. was selected. The jets were I picked jet. Somebody else called in and pick the jets some people you know really and I'm talking about the team's last year. They didn't make it. A LOT OF PEOPLE REALLY LIKED CLEVELAND IN DENVER. coolies picks in the in the AFC, Denver's loaded with talent so is Cleveland. Like just go through Cleveland's roster. If you get a moment and look at the talent, they have now I, think there's a big question mark quarterback personally, I am not a big fan of M- of Baker Mayfield, but landry and Beckham at Wide Receiver Austin Hooper. They had it at tight end. You Know Jet Drik Wills Junior. They drafted as as their starting left tackle instead of going after you know Trent Williams? They signed Jack Conklin in free agency to add to the offensive line defensively myles Garrett is a potential top three defensive player in the League Olivier Vernon. They still have I. Forget what kind of Year Vernon had then that secondary with Denzel Ward starting to enter prime as a legit upper tier corner grant del pit. They added initiators draft from Lsu after file after. Adding Greedy Williams the corner Lsu last year both second round picks. They've got players man. They have players I. Don't know about Stansky as a head coach, but if Baker, Mayfield's gist, okay, remember Kareem Hunt Nick Chubb to of course. that team could be what we thought that team was going to be last year before they opened up the season with you know really a bit of a dope head coach and they got blown out early by Tennessee at home and you know. They limped to a six and ten finish. You know their theoretically in it. When they played Pittsburgh on in that in that game, on a Thursday night the myles Garrett game when they wanted home. The myles Garrett you'd Garrett you know Rudolph incident. Were Garret got suspended for the rest of the season. But not many teams. Can you point at and say yeah, no chance of making the postseason you can point to a lot of teams. Take the NFC, west, every single one of those teams, the forty niners, the seahawks, the rams and the cardinals. There's not one team in that division that if I told you they're in the playoffs next year, would you be shocked? Including Arizona loaded with talent, his added talent, obviously De'andre Hopkins. The panthers you know I thought the panthers would be a team that no one would mention not true and if you look the panthers. Roster and consider yeah, they've got a new coaching staff and that could be an issue for the first year. Remember not only. Did they hire Matt Rule? Defensive Guy from Baylor they hired. Joe Brady the guy that may Joe Borough so great at Lsu last year to be the offensive coordinator but Carolina Carolina's got on offense McCaffrey the added. Teddy Bridgewater quarterback bridgewater fan. In Robbie Anderson wide receiver to go with Dj more and Curtis Samuel Defensively. He drafted Derek Brown one of my favorite players in the draft I. Think he's got a chance to be a great interior defensive linemen. They already had a talent defensively secondary, a little bit question marked but they also added the kid gross. Maddow's from Penn State is a pass rusher in the second round, so even a team like Carolina. Can you really look at them and say and they don't have a chance now. That division with Tampa and Atlanta in New Orleans seems loaded. everybody in the NFC. You could say the redskins. The defense is better better coach defense you know. Get some eight wins, nine wins and with seven teams in each conference. More likely than not every year there's going to be an eighteen at least one. anyway. I thought that was interesting. As you start looking around the league, the chargers Lose Philip Rivers. They add tyrod Taylor but look at their roster. Look at the chargers roster and a division where Denver should be improved. Oakland could be improved in Kansas. City is the favourite to win the super. Bowl but chargers have you know in addition to the offensive talent that was around Philip Rivers, and it was all he was banged up a lot here, and it has been other than that twelve and four year they had, but they got Keenan Allen on offense. They lose Melvin Gordon but they still have Austin Heckler Justin Jackson Love Justin Jackson they is Herbert going to be ready he isn't. Do you like tyrod Taylor. That's the big. If a Hunter Henry Stayed re-sign Mike, Williams Keenan Allen offensively. And defensively town all over the board. You know Bosa, Ingram, they added Lindvall Joseph. They they've got derwin James, who a lot of people think. He's one of the top three or four safety talents in the. League Chris Harris they added. The chargers actually could be really good. They just have a new quarterback. So anyway. interesting NFL conversations to come about the season and to see you know the teams that people are going to be picking I mean everybody knows chiefs Ravens everybody knows forty niners saints now buccaneers. After that you know is going to be a lot of playoff spots and a lot of people in contention this year. quick note before we get to Jason Lockenfora. So I told you a few weeks ago. That the Brooklyn Nets were very interested in Bradley beal. They wanted to trade for beal and bill actually was intrigued by the possibilities. We read a bunch of those quotes. Ultimately, he wants to play with John. Wall and he loves DC but. If a new team in a contending team in the opportunity to play with Kyrie, Irving and Kevin Durant it be crazy to say that. If that were presented, it wouldn't be interesting and intriguing to the player. A player like Bradley Beal, who is really gotten all the sudden? You know a ton of respect from around the league with how much he's improved his game. While there's a story in the athletic that reported that the Lakers have reached out to the wizards about Bradley beal, so beal joins Lebron and Anthony Davis to form the big three in la now the Lakers the wizards appear to be not interested at all and while I. Think Bill would be interested I also think he'll wants to play with John Wall next year. Next year of pickups I do think he wants to play with John Wall. John Wall he comes back at one hundred percent. He's going to join a player and Bradley beal. Who is much improved from the last time John Wall played with them. There is going to be a decision. Right that Bradley. Beal's going to have to make at some point, and that's going to be the decision that tells us whether or not he truly wants to be here. because. The Wizards are ultimately going to offer a supermax deal which they'll be able to offer, and he's going to have to make the decision on whether or not. The Wizards are the right team to be with moving forward lot of interest in beal around the league. I can completely see that as either second piece or a third piece to a true superstar player I. Don't put beal into that category of top five player, not even close I. Don't think feels a top ten player, but the last time I watched. Watched him play before this shutdown, beal had grown into an easy top twenty player. If not starting to push that top fifteen area and is a score, you know he is approaching that top ten to fifteen area as a legit score in the League is the second leading scorer in the NBA when the League shutdown remember that harden was averaging like thirty four, a game and bill was averaging over thirty game. Beal was in the midst of having one of the great regular season, scoring seasons in bullet slash wizards history. Beal was averaging exactly thirty point five points per game when the season shutdown over that last stretch. If you recall starting in February, he went for fifty three against Chicago fifty five against Milwaukee thirty against. Brooklyn Forty two against Utah then went thirty four against Golden State, thirty five against Sacramento before finally going for something less than thirty, he had twenty nine against Portland, and then he went thirty five against Atlanta Twenty three against Miami thirty, nine against the Knicks and a win, which was the last game the wizards played before the shutdown on March tenth. Quick, word about Roman, and then we'll bring in Jason Lockenfora if you were to guess on average. How many days people in the US have to wait to see doctor? What would you say a week? Maybe actually on average people have to wait around twenty nine days to see a doctor in major US cities basically a month. If you're dealing with the condition like erectile dysfunction, you want treatment a sap. That's why our friends at Rome have spent years building a digital. Digital Platform that can connect you with a doctor licensed in your state all from the comfort of your home. 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Lockenfora who of course has been working for CBS for longtime now CBS sports SICOM CBS television covering the League for years of course I was introduced to Jason when he was covering that Juggernaut of team. The Washington Redskins is the beat reporter for the Washington Post for many years. You know what I want to get to a lot of. Of, what's happened here in recent days in the NFL and a couple of other things, but real quickly because you know, I've had you on the podcast many times in years ago. Had you on the radio show many times? Everybody knows who you are. Everybody's followed your career a little bit, but not everybody knows about you. You grew up in Baltimore, right. Yes My parents have been in the same. Row Home in East Baltimore since seventy two. I think I was born in seventy four. Yeah, born and raised here spent most of my life here even when I was. When I was covering the caps. For The Washington Post they were still at plenty orchard at the time was their practice facility and I lived in. In canton I lived in an area of these Baltimore right where near where I grew up. For those five years because it wasn't a bad drive to piney orchard and I rarely had to be in the office in the Times a day that I was driving to. MCI Center who I think. There was still gonNA at the time It wasn't bad. It wasn't a bad commute at all then when Redskins Park became my home that was. That's when we moved to Arlington but yeah I've I've I've been here most of my life. Did you grow up a colts fan? Yeah! Yeah! I was a fan of but. I mean the years I really started watching football really got into it like eighty, one eighty, two those colts teams were bad, really historically bad, and you know the owner Ursa was. Already starting to kind of flaunt the team, you know he he'd show up in Arizona. He'd show up and you know California he was already fighting with. You know the Mayor Schaefer about the future of the team. and their games were blacked out with some regularity because the team was so bad and the optics for so bad, and the owner was was really at war with people so you didn't get to see him as much as as you'd like unless you were at the game and we did go. Go to a bunch but yeah, it was those were. Really bad called teams, and then by eighty four. They were gone. You one of the few you know I've always found it interesting, because as you know, and I know me being DC, native in you being a Baltimore native. They're two totally different cities. I'm two totally different groups to sports fans. I mean you have know the Maryland basketball program which you shared Maryland football to Maryland basketball's A. been a significant part of all of the lives of sports, fans of DC people in Baltimore, people, but you know Washington people immediately adopted the Orioles. The senators left in seventy one. I was one of those guys Jason. I was a DC guy I wanted my own team, and I never became a huge oriels fan like a lot of my friends did very I think many fewer ball. The more people became redskin fans when the colts left aid. You agree with that in Beedi, Ju- root for the Redskins ever. Did you ever adopt them as your team? no I, I I think you're right. and part of the reason was There was a a strong sense in this community. That Jack Kente Cook was perfectly fine with the colts leaving and he wanted. The redskins to become even more of a regional team, and that him being one of the more influential owners and him being an owner who was riding high right around the time The. Colts left the redskins. Were you know you know very much sort of their their their glory days? Feeding for Super Bowl every year with with gibbs, and and there was a strong sense in this community that Jack Kemp would never let it team back to Baltimore and there was a sense that Tagliabue was a DC guy, and he would roll with Jack, and I think to some degree. That's hard to dispute because they gave a team to Jacksonville before they put one here. and I don't think you look at the Ravens and look at the Jags and just look at the attendance numbers and look at the revenues and look at. The stadiums, there's no comparison which is the better football city for the NFL. They're just. So, yeah I think there was a lot of ill-will, bad blood and I can remember like as a kid. Like going with my dad to like pick up food on a Sunday from like one of the neighborhood bars, and bring it home and people just being livid that the colts were being absurd that the skins were being sort of rammed down our throats. On TV package with us now, being lumped in as like the getting the Redskins Games, and getting all these these NFC east games that nobody cared about, and I think that just made people disliked the redskins anymore because it's like if we're GONNA lose our team. Can't we at least just watch? The best, but we want what gets. You don't have to just let us watch the best games possible. Nobody gives a damn about the redskins here. We don't care about the eagles big game with the cowboys like you know. Let's we WANNA see Dan Marino. The irony of that is that DC baseball fans felt the same way about Peter Angelos that Baltimore. Football fans felt about about. Jack Kente, Cook yet DC adopted the Orioles as its hometown team in a much more significant way. Then Baltimore people adopted the Redskins. I! It's it's it's a personality thing I believe like I think DC was an easy mark for baseball. First of all it had been. You know two different franchises lost within a ten year period I'm not old enough to remember the original senators leaving I'm just barely old enough to remember my father taking me to senators games at RFK stadium before they moved to Texas, but DC became a significant orioles market, and yet in this and the situations were similar, I remember being in sense that the orioles I always felt like the orioles were keeping DC from getting a baseball team, because the attendance was so significant meaningful at memorial stadium and later Camden yards for for the orioles owner. Yeah, it's weird like I'm sitting here thinking about all the Times I would beg my dad to take me to the capital center to see a bullets game or I mean I, assume that old enough to drive. You know how use a lot of my money on a caps partial plan with my best friend from high school, and we would be at caps games at landover time. Never once did it enter my mind today. I, have and I love the NFL but like. Even if the charges were playing the skins, and the chargers became a favorite team when the colts last like I I would have never thought it would have never occurred to me. It would have seen blasphemous. For me to Lake, ask my dad, or what am I on calls or something like taking me to RFK? Like I would never never even entered my mind like with the never, and nobody would have done anyway. So maybe I already kind of knew that, but it was like I love the NFL and yeah. I did see the call and I went to I. Don't know probably. Ten or twelve colts games in my life, but you know it was real young then out. for the most part but yeah, through that whole run I never was like. Oh, it'd be cool to go see a redskins like just just as a sporting experience just as someone who loved the NFL like never would have happened. Never would have occurred to me. Just wasn't even how anybody was wired. It was like that's their thing like let them have it, but but but the boards and the wizards that. That for some reason that was just different I guess 'cause we had never had been. We never had hockey and the bullets left. When else so long ago that I know that there was any animosity anymore? I always had a sense going to bullets games at the capital centre that there was definitely a Baltimore element to the crowd. Just like there is Maryland Basketball Maryland football games. It's almost a shared thing between. Two sizable markets. The the other interesting thing over the years is. Baltimore leaves DC's one of the marquee brands in the entire sport in an and by the way sports overall, it's viewed as one of the great NFL cities, best two or three NFL cities end in twenty. Years Baltimore has become a much better NFL city than Washington. It's kind of crazy when you think about it I, mean winning obviously is a big part of it versus losing, but it's been amazing I! Bet for even you as an NFL reporter and someone familiar with both teams in both franchises to see the erosion of the Redskins Fan Base Yeah, it has been, it has been stunning and I mean. Someone's going to stand there. And get punched in the face for only so long before they decide that you know what I could go I could go do something else with this time. I don't have to give this time this energy this passion, this financial commitment to an entity that is not loving me back and I think it comes down to. Ownership and it comes down to sort of decision making at the top, and it comes down to being willing to sort of. Stick with a a model. A division of Labor, a you know a a small group of individuals who you think are worthy of of being the stewards of your franchise for a long period of time, and then I think it also comes down to stadium amenities. Game Day experience and. There's a wide gap between the two franchises in pretty much all of those all those categories. you know and it just things as simple as parking and getting in and out and there's there's just a lot that goes into it that I mean I'd forgotten how bad! It was. Until I finally broke down and I went to see the redskins. PRESEASON Games a couple of years ago, it was They're playing the bengals and it's like it had been a while since I was there and so you kinda like. The PTSD goes away a little bit and then I got in that parking lot and I was like I'm leaving at halftime. Stall started coming back to me and it's like I'm David this whole game like i. I, it's just I just remember like trying to get in and out of there at times, and just how jacked up? It is, and you know I was parking like a mile away from the stadium. 'cause they didn't give me the right parking fast, and I was just like. God. This a miserable experience. I've mentioned many times like to me. It would be a great award. Winner or Harvard Business School case study to look at what has happened here in two decades to take a brand that was so fiercely. Followed and loyalty to the brand to see what's happened, you know in in recent years in doing this show. On nine eighty. I've mentioned so many times, and this is what I like about our fan base. I'll mention many times. The Ravens in how you know I I there's an incredible amount of respect to watch a great owner to watch Ozzie newsome to watch to Kosta to watch the coaching to watch. What they've done is an organization it's it's a great organization and to admire it, and I take a pounding when I do that and I'm like no, no no I'm not a Ravens Fan Roy, but you can respect what they're doing from. You know especially given that it's so close and you know. We get Ravens Games into the DC market and we. Zones made it very easy to to sort of away from that. For many years. We've been getting ravens. I can remember early on and like I. Don't want the Ravens Games on I want to see a better game here. You know even though the ravens were good teams, but Anyway, it's interesting to see how that's happened over over the years. We're talking to Jason. Lockenfora Jason by the way also has a really good podcasts podcast called be more opinionated. I know Gary Coleman's apart of that. And I ran into Jerry recently. I can't remember where but listen to that. You can get that podcast in any place that you get podcast in this day and age. By the way real quickly before we get some of the league issues, you covered the Redskins for a period of time for the Post. GimMe a good story or too bad or good about your time covering the team. Pretty Open. You were. Let me let me let me interrupt second. You were in one of the reasons and I'm I'm just telling you this. I'm not I'm not blowing smoke up here up your backside, but I always liked you as a beat reporter, because you also injected some opinion into your beat reporter, which I beat reporting, which I liked like I could always send some emotion even in your stories and I don't know if that's a good thing or not, but it's my preference personally. And you very. You're very aggressive is reporting. You broke a lot of news which hasn't happened that much over the years, but D- remember like a story. You were super proud of her a big story that you broke. I I'm probably if I if I thought about it i. mean immediately what comes to mind is. Like when I first got on the beat. and. You know it was sort of this changing of the guard, and they were trying to see what I was all about and. I think I kind of already knew what they were all about but you know you go in with an open mind. And so I called in the Dan's office and like Costume Watson. was in there I. Think any might have been there I mean. This is a long time ago now. But this is sort of like the you know. Hey, Here's how we do it around here. Here's here's. Here's how we roll. And I was like look I don't. Don't. Want you to give me anything I don't want I want you don't want to be spoon Fed I. Don't want anything from you. You Win. I'M GONNA. Break my back to describe. In a way as best I can why you're winning, and what makes you good and if you keep being who you've been, then I'm GonNa. Do My damndest to explain why you can't win, and and and while you have been unable to win, and that's how I view my job and I'm not. You know. s Ted Leonsis, how I covered his team because that's the same thing here about the game. was. Were they antagonistic with you? I, mean there was. A. Yeah I mean they control the message board that would spread all kinds of lies and rumors about me I mean. There was a file. They showed me when I left the Washington Post like the HR had that was like. All these letters from their lawyers with these just blatant I mean stuff that wasn't true like I got in a fistfight with Mike, wise in the in the in the press box at the meadowlands. you know I? All of these reasons these letters that the redskins wrote at various times. Why should be taken off the beat or terminated or whatever I mean? They had the TV show that ridiculous TV show. With what's his face? You know spreading lies. He's he's giving playbook to the Dallas. Cowboys are he's working. He's working with other teams in the division to give away secrets and. I mean it was. It was pretty out there. In many ways they were ahead of their time. Fake News you. It was a strange time man, and you would get these different partners on the beat, and you try to tell them, and they'd be like mom, and come on Nah Nah I can't be like that, and then you know whether it was Howard Brian, or Jason read like after a few months like Bro. You were like Oh my God. It's real like yeah, Dude. It's real it's this is some. This is some stuff and I remember one time like. I was convinced somebody had moved my car in that parking lot. I'm like I remember calling like Jason read on my Bro- my car. I don't think it's. Like. This is where I like when I got here at seven. Am I don't think there's where park the car. And at a certain point, you kind of start getting your own head and I'm sure it was like wherever I parked it. It's just you know you just forget about it, and you get so much on your mind but It was it was. It was quite an experience man. You you of had to be prepared for anything. Keep your analysts wiggle, but you like Gibbs Right Yeah I did I felt bad for him. Because I thought that he forgot who've been out that long. The model they chose the infrastructure just wasn't there, and he was having to do so many jobs, and there was always something going on, and he had to put out so many fires that it took him away from. What he was often be best that which is being the head football coach and you know he's got to look over guys on the waiver wire, and and you know you have to sweat off the details, and then there's this this. This is going on in the media. said that, or you know what I mean Clinton Portis did this and this guy did that and this cat wear the uniform and you know this guy too much tape on his and he had like. All that one across his desk, and I just felt like if they had the pad if he had walked into strong organization where they had more people who were like excellent at their jobs, and they had been hiring the best and the brightest for years. I think he could have had a very different outcome, but as you watched, you know what he had to deal with, and all that was going on. I and the fact that so many of the guys he brought in. We're not. At the vanguard of what was going on either side of the ball. That was a problem. and. You know I think that that held them back and it took time I. mean all the staff overhaul that started happening. Fairly soon, you know and then getting. That's all on his desk. We're talking. To Jason, Lockenfora, who covered the team? For I, think six or seven years. It was something like that. I. Think five was a five five. I think five years. You know what's interesting by the wages. Aside you know here. We were sports. Talk Radio long form every single day three to four hours a day owned by for a significant percentage of those years, Red Zebra, which is was did known primarily majority owner was Dan Snyder, and you can ask me or Zeh or Andy. Andy or doc or Brian or anybody that's been on the air for a long long time on that station, and they essentially ignored us I mean there was never anything said. If I moved here, we were during the years being harshly critical of the time when they sucked, even though there was this impression that we were like an extension of the team, which was just completely untrue. Never mean I would listen Dr Another redskin park and coming home I never thought. It will nor did anybody that listened on on a daily basis, but it's just you know. We always felt it was very funny that the relationship was a bit antagonistic. No doubt they didn't help us, but they also didn't ever say you know. Hey, this is how we want. It done like there was never any of that, which is just just strange So real quickly before we get to the league. What do you think of the hiring of Rivera? Do you think that this you know? We always think when this happens whether it was Mike in Twenty ten. Joe In in two thousand and four. Maybe things will be different Rivera I think Jason was a really solid higher. What what you think of the higher, and then, what do you think about the state of the franchise right now without Bruce Allen in an in an anymore. I think he's of an excellent leader Widely respected. But I. He's never been quite this guy before you know what I mean. There was a different sort of. Checks and balances in in Carolina. And I never having. Ability. You're saying being coach kind of like the same thing like. With with Shanahan and with Gibbs. That that model hasn't hasn't worked Ron's younger than those guys at this point That you know. He's probably has more energy, and and Mitt probably is coming at this from a different mindset than those two guys who had to know the moment they took that job. That was very likely their last job. doing something like that in the NFL. But, there's so much that goes into it. There's such a steep learning curve. And he's not going into an organization that has. The infrastructure already there, and it's like now you're in charge of what color of the walls are and how big the training you know how how you spread out the. Whatever medical rooms and now you've got this. Pandemic, on top of it, we're all these things are going to have to be reshuffled on the fly, and you're going to have to spread things out even more and figure out how to make that facility able to hold ninety five guys with these new regulations, and it's not a very big facility. It's not by any means state of the art There's going to be all that stuff is now his deal? You know what I mean and that's not what got him hired. You know what got him hired was the rising defensive coordinator who then goes and and establish his strong staffs and Carolina so that when guys leave defensive coordinators, the next guy up still pretty good and Ron still taking care of that and. You know that that slipped the last few years and Carolina so. That's you know it's. It's it's. He was already like if they already had the Bobby Beth third. If they ever found the Bobby Beth then, would he be a great Joe Gibbs? Yeah, but that's done how they're. You know making the sausage there. Right now, and and he wavered from this model of the coach has almost no power to their coach has all the power, and there's probably a happy medium somewhere in the middle that might serve them better for something that lasts, you know eight years ten years twelve years. Whatever so I I mean run super smart and he'll probably figure a lot of things out on the fly, but. This isn't who he's been. This is this is a very different sort of deal. Now where all you know, all things go through Ron Rivera's desk and whoever's picking the players? He's going to have a lot of say and you know. However this thing gets sort of more than evolves over the next few years It's all going to have his fingerprints on it. And that hasn't worked there. Do. They have the quarterback enjoying Haskins. I I don't think it's going to be. I don't think anybody could say they know. Until twenty twenty one because I just don't know. What they've given him that you could say is giving them like what's in place. That will give him a fair shot I don't know. What that is I mean it's. We're in the middle of this pandemic. He can't be around the facility. They have changed everything up again, right? He's his third coach already. The offense of talent and I'm putting talent in air quotes. Probably the worst in the league. You know I it even the offense of lines I'm not. I have major reservations about. The run I mean. This Adrian Peterson thing I mean come on this like that. That ship has sailed dairy always hurt. I. Don't know what he can depend on like I. Don't know I mean other than his right guard. I don't know what he goes to battle and one receiver. I know you know what I mean I. Don't know what you go into any game planning meeting. Feeling good about like Oh. We're going to feature this really GonNa feature besides Perry like Oh i. dare you try, but that's and that's a. that's definitely a concern, but about him. Let's just say that the redskins somehow were able to put around him with. Put. Around drew lock. You Know Jerry Judy Court. Portland Sutton K.. K.. J. Hammer Melvin Gordon, would you? Would you believe in Haskins? Yes I mean. The fifty touchdown passes happened like it happened in big time college football like it was real. There were people who preferred him to Joe Borough at that time like that I mean that. He only played a year and nothing has been sort of He's had no continuum to build on. Since then it's it's been you know an interim coach who didn't really seem to want much do with them and just wanted to play rugby and run the ball sixty five times, and then they hire you know another coach who's bringing in a different staff, and then they go through the entire offseason and the draft, and they literally the opposite of what I did I mean they do literally nothing for. Know. They tried on some things and you know why. We really wanted super. Yeah we're still him from Jerry well, you didn't. And so I just think it's going to be really difficult to evaluate him even through this whole season because I, think he's going to be running for his life and I think he's. He's going to have to try to do too much just to survive. and. The defense will be better you know, and so that might make some of these games a little more competitive but I just I. mean or is it going to be a two week training camp with one preseason game? You know what I mean. Is there going to be a full training camp? But no preseason games because the risk is too high how it's just. The worst case scenario. I think for trying to develop a quarterback and again especially one who he only played for one year. A couple of weeks things and I'll let you run because I so appreciate the time first of all. What did we learn from the goodell statement over the weekend? about capper, nick about the anthem, etc? Well it it certainly a seismic shift for the League and for them to admit that they should have listened more to players and on different things in the past when it came to. This protest movement against police brutality that. We never heard language like that before I mean they. They were engaged the lawsuit with this man And and throughout the whole thing was super careful with how they chose their words, and never struck a an apologetic tone. In any way, so that was a big change him taking his cues directly from players, and not owners, and responding so quickly and responding exactly as the players had asked. And it gets significant also at a point where I feel like corporate America. No longer views this movement As as so Risk Averse as something that could be so terrible for their brands, and no one wants to say the word black lives, matters and people won't directly talk about you know systematic racism and police officers, killing black people in the streets because of the color of their skin, while you read some of these corporate statements, and and some are still very milk, toast and bland, and just want to say something for the sake of saying something, but other organizations in sports outside of sports have have very much taken figs. MOORHEAD on than I've seen before so I think the corporate culture has has shifted a little bit and and the NFL and some of its owners don't see this as being so quote, unquote bad for business, as it might have been before, and they also think Roger. In his heart. Had had wished all along with some of these things were done differently and that he could have. Pushed in product and pulled. Some people do more than they did to say more than they did to respond a little differently than they did And now it's for me. It just begs the question at some point this season there's Roger, Goodell, take a knee with players and I wrote a column about it. This week I think he will because I. Think they're going directly. Ask US week one. It's going to be hundreds, if not maybe a thousand or more. It's not half the league. Taking nate because these problems are could be six between now and September, and they're still going to be a movement, and it's going to take time to enact meaningful. You know police, reforms and and and You know reforming the criminal justice system. This is going to take years of legislation So the fight will still be on and September and and I can't imagine the players don't ask Roger you say respect our protests. You say you're an ally. You say you want to be the same for you. Say That you get this. Come taking big brother and I I. Don't know at this point if he's asked and he can say no. How many of the owners supported the statement? The other day and we'll? We'll support what you just described. well I. I mean I think if anybody tried to tell you the exact numbers they'd be lying to you. to some of these guys. Don't talk ever and some aren't going to tell you what they really think, but. We're now coming up on a week. Which today Wednesday. So we're just all went down Friday, so we're five days into this I have. Have you seen any story where you know? An owners got beat writers in his back pocket. WHO's come out with the story? Saying you know with all these documents sources saying you know this ownership group is is mad. That cadel went rogue and you know he's GonNa. You know that he doesn't speak for everybody I mean. These guys all have their buddies, so they can get on. Get on the phone and and leaked something to. I haven't seen it anywhere. I haven't. Worn nationally. Yeah I haven't either, but there's been silence from a lot of them. There hasn't been out. Words support from a significant percentage of them. Well I'll say this. The Guy who was most opposed to this the last time around the guy who became the face of the movement in many ways, because no-one on his team was neely yet he and I remember them going on a bi week, and then him coming out and throwing a mile, tough cocktail locker room and saying. Don't you even think about it? You gotta get fine. There will be punishment. Nobody's going to do that with the Dallas cowboys. We don't do that. Nobody's doing it here. And then Jason Garrett having to clean up the mess I haven't heard boo about him and he's got his radio show and he's got. You know all plenty of pals in the media and he could get on serious. He could get on. ESPN, he get. Anybody can go to the local station that he doesn't show with and say anything he wants, and I think in this case with things being. Still in the streets, and this being such a hot sort of issue. that. Somebody might have if they do go out there and talk. They might really bury themselves. And I and I think that's probably in the back of some of these guys mind so I. Think Silence is probably. Silence or you know some sort of statement that comes out of the PR. Teams Office like we support. Roger Goodell is about all you're going to get at this point but but look a lot of these guys have so much power in much efforts Jerry Jones was trying to run a coup to get Roger Goodell out at office to you. You didn't have enough support. There weren't enough people with them so I. Think he would also realize there wouldn't be enough people with them now. If you wanted to do that, but I think the silence speaks volumes, because these are not guys many of them who have to bite their tongue who are worried about what anybody else thinks and they run their own fiefdoms, and so I think if I'm wondering adult. We're a week out. And and some of the guys were sorta bagging drum against these protests the hardest three years ago or say nothing I'm feeling pretty good about that. Some of the criticism of the statement was specific to that. There was no mention of Colin Kaepernick by name Malcolm Jenkins came out yesterday and said. You know they still haven't gotten it right the league I'm paraphrasing at this point, but until they apologized directly to capture nick or assign him to a team. They're not going to be on the right side of history. What do you think or how do you think capper Knicks? Situation plays out with the League. With a can't. They can't assign them to a team and they don't. They don't have the. Wherewithal to to do that I mean two weeks ago. I would have said what I was saying for a long time that he'll never work out on an NFL facility much less Play you know play another game. at did now I. I would say it's. It's still more likely than not that he doesn't play again. But I. Don't think it's impossible. I. Think there's a a needle that could be threaded there. I think there's a sliver of a window where not now? But if we get in the season, and especially, if it is a truncated training camp, and he's offensive lines haven't gelled all these young offensive Lineman who been brought in. Don't have a chance to really get their feet under them for their playing, and then quarterbacks get hurt, and it's like it was two or three three years ago when the Houston Texans. We're bringing Brandon Weeden I. mean this is what calls Copper Nick, the filed a lawsuit the first places we had that run of five or six weeks for Aaron Rodgers down for eight weeks, and they're running Hunley into Sean Kaiser out there. In Games here? Right you guys had Sanchez the Texans you know Bill O'Brien's talking to big ain't now I mean I remember them bringing Brandon Weeden, guys out of the Crypt and not returning Colin Kaepernick's phone calls. They wouldn't say anything to his age if they wouldn't give them a reason that the Mariota was hurt again, and this was at a point where he was doing a sending player. You thought he might be able to come back and save the season. And they were running a bunch of guys out there. WHO had no business? There was like four or five quarterback workouts, and and two or three week span, and he couldn't get a phone call return, so could happen this time around I. Don't know because I think at this point. Everybody who said bringing them to your building is bad for business. You know what you've a scenario like that and you're bringing Brandon Weeden and something account brother. We haven't seen places since high school out there and you know. You're turning shop to save the season. I think that'd be protests in the locker room and people on the street if we're allowed to. If things are normal in terms of your ability to move freely would be at team facilities, saying why not Kapernick and you're not going to be able to get away with these blanket. Statements of you know it doesn't fit our system or whatever I think people will be held to account like well. How do you know like you didn't even look at them like we're not saying you had to sign them, but you brought five dudes in here. Who Stake? Why couldn't he be one of those five guys so? Maybe there's an opportunity there at some point that public pressure mounts, and some of these teams, and some of these coaches who are making pretty strong statements It's injuries. Strike at that position. There's going to be questions. Asked like wait a minute. Here's what you said. Here's what you said in June and here's what you said at training camp, and now you know what I mean. You're down a quarterback and you're gonNA. Tell me that this guy is not one of the best one hundred guys on the planet like he's not worthy of finding out if he's one of the best one hundred guys of the planet. If we're carrying, you know if you're going to carry three guys I mean. How Long John You guys had just Johnson Right. I mean. He had played NFL football. The AF and that other league that told before that and whatever but like. I mean yeah. You look at some of these dudes who you're in November and the list of available free agents is pretty is pretty thin at that position and you're. You're trying all kinds of dudes I mean. They're couples AF folded. Luis Perez and all these guys got signed like immediately. That happened remember who Perez was. Who the hell see. This is the not the xfl, but when they had that af the. In season and folded after five games, and like three three quarterbacks from that league got sunny. And it's like, but capita doesn't get a workout, so we'll. We'll say I I still don't think. It's it's incredibly likely But I don't think it's impossible in the climate that we're in You know that if we are in a scenario where you've got four or five six quarterbacks out and these every Tuesday. There's this this group. Dude's making the circuit that maybe Colin can become part of that, and if that goes well, then, maybe he could get signed. You know it's funny because I. Think you're right with respect sort of the corporate in the business side that that would be less of a risk this time, but still fresh in the mind of of everybody in that league is a November. You know out of the blue workout. That was unprecedented. Where regardless of whether or not? You know wherever world wasn't well done and it wasn't well done by him. You know it left many with the impression that maybe he didn't really WanNa play when all was said and done. You know that that may be some of the issue now. He's thirty two years old going on thirty three. Look. The bottom line is if. If somebody wants to say that he was given an opportunity. They gotta let them in their facility and and. Sit there with the Stopwatch and having run his forty. And you tell them what throws you want him to make because it's your office and you right you. You design the practice strip because that's how it should be anyway, aged me him and his quarterback coach, and that's not how they originally wanted to do it, but I'm not going to relitigate that whole thing. The League did a lot of stuff and. I think his people made some critical errors. In the forty eight hours before he actually started throwing that could have been done differently, but the whole idea that even happening because of a lack of trust between them I. Think was always was always a little naive ambitious Regardless at some point somebody either let's him throw for them. You know or they don't, and and if he doesn't look the part, and if he if he looks like he's going through the motions, then people going to ask you about it and and you couch that however you want. but we'll see I I don't I? Don't think it's likely but I things are changing, and I've seen things in this league last week or so that I never would have thought I've seen in. A million years, so who knows? covid nineteen remember that. Is. Hysterical is still an issue. Is the NFL. GonNa play on time and will they have no. So go ahead. Give me your thoughts on that I. Just I I mean they. They have lots of plans and contingencies, but which one is is the most realistic and. what gets put into effect and how much they're changing on the fly, and if they're having alter roster, roles and football operation rules just because of the numbers game that sport is even in the best of times You know. Nobody knows the the scientists don't seem to know you know. I mean there were only a few months into this. Everybody wants long-term answers, and everybody wants solutions, and everybody wants to know best practices but if you really follow this closely, and you're reading this stuff, I'm reading a lot of the things I can remember cutting PSA at a radio station. All about you know all the different ways you need to clean surfaces. And now they're saying it's not very. Easily transmitted. Through surfaces But I I. So I don't know you know. Where would be a country? It's still going to be each day on their own by by. You know October when it's getting colder, is there another wave are certain states being hit partner than others I just don't, but it's going to be a very real issue for for these teams because of the economy of scale I mean the NHL bubbles fifty people. You can't do anything fifty people in the NFL. You, can't you can't you can't even? You can't serve lunch to the guys at the facility with fifty people? You're carrying ninety to begin with I think they might get down to seventy five before anybody gets in the building. But regardless think about how many people takes. To have eight or ten guys who all need To be taped up or eight or ten guys who all need treatment after practice and what it takes to keep the fields playable, and what it takes to feed these guys, and what it takes to clean, hundred uniforms, or what it takes to sterilize all those all those helmets every night what it takes to to move these guys around and. Just all that goes into a training camp. How many people are involved? I, so you're you'RE GONNA maintain three hundred people bubbles I mean they're even saying that guys are going to get sick. I mean south. He said He. This would be perfect. Petri dish to spread football players, practicing and rubbing up on each other for ninety minutes i. No okay. I, I don't know I mean Will they? Think any of us. Do they clearly? Personal they'll have the advantage of watching other leagues. Beginning takes with respect to this. They've been blessed throughout this entire process of not having to shut down anything significant. As of yet with that said, there's no way any of these leagues can go into an effort to start a season or resume season thinking that you know a few positive tests are going to be problematic. You know it's going to have to take a major outbreak in some serious illness to shut it down, or they might as well not do it. Yeah I I. Don't know where where those thresholds are, and then I mean. If you if the guy gets sick and you, you quarantine them for two weeks or you've got five or six guys sick. How many how many Jews are GONNA be raising their hands, saying. Yeah. I can't wait to go there. On Tuesday you know from my tryouts to be the last guy on the roster for a couple of weeks, dude, come off quarantine, and maybe I'll have scarring in my lungs, the rest of my life or they. You know like I I just. Exactly what Barrow said yesterday, Tommy said to me yesterday said, here's the issue or not, considering if a few people get sick, and we were talking about the NBA, think specifically at the time and you know you've got G. League players getting called up but even players that are already on the roster. How many of them are going to be real excited about showing up for work? The next day of three guys just tested positive. We don't know what the answer to that is, but. And and football's. Next man up I mean and it takes so many bodies to get the seizure and at some point I just don't. You know I I don't know I mean. There's a lot of older coaches in the league and I. It's just I think they've had had a remarkable run here. In terms of the no known cases in the NFL community versus the rest of the world, and the timing of it, and they've been able to proceed as business as usual, but this pandemic has changed everybody's life and I just have a hard time thinking. They'RE GONNA play four months season, and the only thing they're going to have to reconfigure. Is these you know putting more room between guys in the locker? Room I just. Knowing what it goes into making this happen. And and I don't know man. I they will do whatever they can to start. I just wonder about the ability to finish. Great. Thanks for doing this thanks for. My pleasure. Always enjoy it and. And to take. My my dogs, my favorite person in my house after the last three and a half months. Favorite living in the House for away I'm good. Best of luck with the PODCAST. Hope we talked before season in September I. Don Goodman thank you. Thank you, thanks. Jason Lockenfora with his dog holding off until the very last question. Of the interview what dog what patience throughout we heard a few barks there at one point, but great job by Jason and his dog real quick word about hydrant dot, com, top performers and business and sports often attribute their success to their morning routine whether it's waking up earlier setting their goals for the day exercise meditation, but not everybody's got the time to do it all with hydrant. You can jump start your. Your morning did you know that seventy five percent of US are walking around everyday life? Chronically dehydrated were suffering needlessly from frequent headaches, energy slums and poor focus. It doesn't have to be that way. You WanNa kick the coffee habit, but you're worried about your energy levels to avoid the morning sluggishness in that midday slump. You need to make sure you're hydrated. This is important especially as we enter the summer months, hydrant creates. 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It has to do with the end of that conversation with Jason about the NFL and the prospects of starting the season on time playing a full season, a lot of unknowns as we know, Tommy and I've been talking about that. I mentioned earlier in the show. just the world. Health Organization going from a symptomatic spread, being very rare to them backtracking on that yesterday. There's just going to be a lot of that over the next couple of months. You've got three months until I. Think it's three months from tomorrow opening night in the NFL Kansas City hosting the Falcons are the Texans I think the Texans in that opening game. And I I had this thought off of the conversation with Tommy yesterday, about the NBA because it looks like the NBA will be the first league that we get back to playing games live games real games. And part of the NBA plan which I'm not sure, I've mentioned at all on the podcast. In the event of a smaller outbreak, a couple of players on a team testing positive is to quarantine those players and then bring players up from the G. League. To replace those players. And thinking just about how we're going to feel about watching the NBA in. Late July August in empty arenas or gyms with knows piped in from NBA Two K. or some other source. And then on top of that. Exist the possibility of. A playoff series between. Let's just call the Lakers in the rockets and the rockets lose Russell Westbrook in James Harden to a positive test, and they get replaced by to no name G.. League players that we've never heard of and they're. The. Lakers lose Lebron and Anthony Davis. I'm giving you the worst case, but let's just say that you get to teams in a postseason that have two to three starters that go out and are replaced by G. League players now players on their bench are gonNA come out come into the game and start, but just how? Water down. The product will be at that point. HOW INTERESTED ARE WE GONNA BE? In a basketball game alive, sporting event potentially a month and a half from now. Where you've got players Quarantine G. League players. We've never heard of starting empty gyms. No spectators fake noise being pumped in. Our whole feeling. About these Games when we actually start to watch them. is another big unknown. First of all we've gotten used to no, no live sports and I'm not going to suggest that we could ever get used to that in terms of the NFL. But as it relates to the NBA in the NHL even Major League Baseball. I don't know that we're going to be so heartbroken. Especially, if the product that were forced to consume doesn't really look anything like the product product we used to watch. I think it. All of the live sports in these professional leagues are going to play out in ways. That were not even considering right now. But I guess it's better to start down that path than not start down that path. I'm not being negative. It you know I don't feel desperate to have it like I would have a couple of months ago. but I WANNA see it. I want the you know leagues to learn from it. And I certainly want the NFL to start on time with full rosters with some spectators in the crowd. So that you know there's a feeling of normalcy as it relates to the sports world when we get to the fault now. Normally if best case scenario, everybody's healthy things are proceeding, nor a as as you know. Everybody hoped best case was. We're still going to have the feeling that we've never had before. which is all of these sports converging? on the same portion of the calendar together they're going to be all playing at the same time, and in the case of the NBA and Major League, baseball, potentially and hockey, and then the NFL in the midst of its regular season. You're. GonNa have a lot of sports to consume on some of these weekends if it goes well. Anyway. That's it for the day done. Tommy will be back tomorrow. Enjoy the day. Stay healthy.

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Hotboxin' with Mike Tyson

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Sportscaster Jim Gray

"Jim View Mind. If we smoke or do you want none of that as well you want. I don't want him for. It's all right. Bring us in my God that we need a bath fan in here at all no doubt it here on the free the Bachmann exclusively available at Apple podcast and podcast one. If you love the show share with a friend and and don't forget to leave with a rating review Apple Pie calf okay. Another episode the Hot Boxer Mike Tyson Britain and we have a real often guests here today. My buddy you know what I mean. Sports Casta extraordinaire the Great Hall of fame. A long time. We've been together a long time. That's right you guys have known each other long time. Yeah I know Mike since he was sixteen. How old so you know? I'm fifty two as a lot of years. Yeah that's a lot of years. WE'RE COMING UP ON THIRTY YEARS. Oh Wow thank about that. That was crazy. We still remember when I met you when when what day was that. Tell us I met you were you were you were training in the catskills. I met you and then we had our first interview back then but we had our first real long conversation. You maybe nineteen or twenty you. You came into materials. Restaurant Jacobson L.. Don King was there here. I'll remember Matteo with the best in Westwood. Good yeah it was good bamber Mattie. Yeah man he would come by into Disney people and stuff. Everybody was in there. Used to be a restaurant Sunday nights and tell them about this guy. Everybody was in their Lucille Ball. Sammy Davis anybody. Bob Hope Bob Hope anybody sitting out Davis is incredible. It was fun Westwood in La here now. David it's still there. It's on Westwood and Pico De. Yeah still there. Wow it's changed hands. Mattie died and his wife Jackie she sold it and but it was saying that was the same train. Remember that train. Your Nana's Cleveland. Browns car because art modell was the owner of the browns and used to be in there all the time so they added a car. Cleveland browns a car on the train. That was awesome place to be at that time. My life is going in there seeing everybody Eddie Barbra streisand and it's like why this is. Your kid wants these guys in the late night television flip Wilson Road trip here all in there Johnny Carson. It was something it was special. That's pretty sad but anyway we had our first real conversation. Dairy sat down at the table. He was looking at the train. The train was going round and round Gordon and I said Hey Mike and he had seen me on television. Obviously United interviewed him sat down and we had a conversation. I was with my dad and Mike so Mike was Nineteen or twenty. Not sure exactly but Every time I saw Mike After that until my dad died about five or six years ago every time I saw the first thing that came out of my mouth didn't matter where we were. What fight we were doing whether it was Manchester or the MGM or anything first thing you would say when he saw me? How's Your Dad Jerry? Jim but what. I always always knew that for my father was just a man and I mean all the Father Associates eighteen everything Marvin Davis. And all those guys you know your father was just a man you know they will always told me about your father demand on Kingwood Fan. He's the man we've had great reverence for your father. Well he was he was a great man. He really helped a lot of people. Tell us about Komo sports and he grew up around Denver and he stayed Denver's whole life and he would travel around do his work but You know he raised us in Denver and My brother's roller than me So I got to spend a lot of time with my dad because my brothers were out of the house by by the time I was old enough to really be able to do things and so forth so we went to Bronco Games and rockets Nuggets Games and he would take me down to the golden gloves. Golden gloves was big in in Denver. Every Christmas. my dad loved boxing. My daddy used to go to all the fights and he would drive us by Sunny Listens House. Yes I mean glistened lived on Monaco Avenue not far from where we lived in grew up and so we would go every Christmas. Go to see his lights and hope to see him standing outside a live by stapleton. Ah Airport which was the old airport in Denver and we would go down there and look at that and he would take me to watch Ron. Lyle Spar Ron lyles fights and Eat heated loved and we would watch the fights on television black and white and Bob Comfy and then Howard cosell and so You know I was just Exposed to it at a young age that you know all those great great fighters and Denver was you know Denver had a big boxing community So you know I kind of fell in love with it in and it just brought me closer to my dad not necessarily boxing but just all the sports sports that And I was tennis player so he would come to my matches and my mom you know. He just gave me the ability to do what I wanted to do. And and and the freedom without interference But the but the guidance and the love You know that's required to have a successful for life and so without that you know without without pressing you or or pushing you into what to do. We always just told me you know whatever you do work hard and do it with integrity and so you know mess him. He was my best friend. You know it was a tough you know everybody goes through it. Everybody loses loved ones. And then when it happens to you you lose your best friends and you've lost temendous amount of people in your life replaceable. You look for in other people but there isn't another father and there isn't another best friend and there isn't people who are in your circle that you really you trust that you can find it from even though you tried to gravitate to those people who you think might. It's just not the same so would lucky to have had him for the first Whatever it was fifty four years of my life and my mom is still alive and she's great so the good news is when I see my mom I feel my dad and she still in Denver Rolling Strong and to tell me? What do you think you met her? We've I WANNA know but nobody for what do you think made your father flew onto his honesty his integrity as principles you know. He grew up in a time. You know where you know. People people didn't have much so they helped each other and he saw you know what his grandfather did it in the community to help others who who had come over from Europe Who who you know? And then my dad was a naval reserve for for the war and so you know they knew they knew that the Times you know require that you you had to figure out how to help others. Who didn't have what you had so my my grandfather was my great grandfather? His grandfather father used to always tell them Jerry. If you make a dime you give someone a penny. If you make a dollar you give someone ten cents. If you make more than one hundred dollars you'd better give somebody more than ten dollars so he figured out you know that it was a if you ever became successful that you had an obligation and That you that there was a requirement Morally to Do whatever you could to help other so my my dad was a very philanthropic man. You got involved in all kinds of charities leading me his friend day with all those guys well. My Dad Dad was was an accountant by trade. That's what he did he was he was a he had a certified public accounting. But being being an accountant. You know you get to know so so many people doing taxes for people in in Colorado and so you know he became trusted. You know he would handle people's the circumstances in in in their accounting and and you know Figuring out ways how they could finance and and and do things and you know being responsible to paying the government and also you know being able to fund some of the other stuff so he was He would just trusted. How'd you gain trust rest wide? You Trust me. It's something you can't really you can't really put your finger on you just know. It are experienced together Iraq. So he's not Joe's scumbag because all all in the journeys of where we travel. We met a lot of bad people. Thought it would be easy for me to identify you as a bad person right so that experience that he had with others lead them to be able to know that he could facilitate a relationship and be counted on to be trusted and he can powerful stuff. He really trusts issue. He really was and You know he was. He was proud of all the things that he was able to To accomplish. Not only in business but he was very proud of all the people that he helped who couldn't help themselves whether it was guys who were were nameless You know and and done anonymously which he did a tremendous amount of people for For people who you know no one not his friends not even his family. I mean I had a guy come up to me at his funeral and any said to me. Do you have a moment and I was just we were just walking out of the only said can can talk to from and I wanna Tell You something about your dad that you don't know Oh and I'm thinking what the fuck this told me. I got a brother or something I taught me this. God Damn why are you gonNa tell me something about my dad right now so I looked at him and I kind of walk. They said No. It's important and I'm thinking. Oh God my heart your heart kind of stinks thanks you ever had somebody come up at all God man when he said to me said to me you know you. Your Dad was involved in some mm called the bridge foundation at the University of Denver. I said Yeah. He said he's a trustee and he helped great the whole thing and he said yeah he said there's tens of thousands of students who've been educated because your dad's help and they're all living much better lives because of what he was able to do and and how he was able to help them along. And what the program was is if you could not afford college and you came from. I believe it was Denver public schools. And you couldn't afford it. He would bridge the gap in other words. If you needed one hundred dollars he'd give you a hundred dollars. If you needed a thousand give your thousand. They created this whole foundation to bridge the gap of what people could afford and what they couldn't afford so that they could then be educated and so we change the lives of thousands of kids and the community and he left the part of himself to be able to help others for future generations so You know it's a it's it's it's mind. Mind Boggling you know and we had the time in and the inclination and the willingness to do that and all the other things that He did but that one sir. I felt great but I wanted to. I wanted to smack him at. I live up to something like they can't you can't. It's a great example and you just That's what you hope to do in life. He always used to say to me if you can help somebody help them if you can't you hope they I understand so you try to do the best you can and You know as a great role model you. It's it's hard to. You can't fill those shoes. Nobody can but you can try and do your best and The great example that he had my mom of set and just the honesty and decency and integrity. And I'm glad you got a little bit and what you said to me at the hall of fame Again Last year you know that made me cry before we started when you started to cry. Wouldn't expect a net but I can't tell you how much that meant to me because you could go to a place that I wasn't GonNa go you know I wasn't GonNa take the people there and he did. That was a great moment. Tom Thank you. Probably you know it's going going with this journey in life with you and I mean knowing a human being a person the only experience with you know it's bullshit from people from Shit with me and Shit. Would Pete rolled all shitting only thing that I realize you experience what expense we never gave up no matter what anybody said to us. They tried to break spirits. You know destroy heavy filter at the by self confidence. He has never gave up in life like that. You know I was kind of fortunate fortunate just in my own brain to think that you know when people have opinions. They're entitled to their opinions and if we're going to dish it out we should be able to take it so when people give you a hard time even when they don't have all the facts you got to correct the facts but opinions are okay. Everybody has an opinion and that opinion. Even if you disagree with it doesn't mean that they can't have it but it doesn't mean that you have to believe it. So who am I going to believe. Some guy who doesn't know me some guy who who who for whatever. The reason has venom or anger jealous or petty or by the way sometimes the criticisms correct and when the criticisms correct you got to do your best to take it to heart and change. I mean somebody says something about you and you know it's true. Don't fight it fix it two percent so sometimes you. Sometimes you just have to fix it. Sometimes you gotTa take your medicine when wrong and when you're not wrong well I just disregard it because what does it matter what they think matter you what somebody thinks. That doesn't matter to me when my wife mad at me matters to me when you're mad at me matters to me when people who know me and care about me when they're pissed off. I better look at myself and get it right otherwise. Oh well you know. Hey what do you think about them that I was speaking earlier. Aw I took this. Ancient drought the team. The expected on Jim Within the MT five the antique vibe five of the tea eighty. I don't know what that is if it's a loose agenda some so to speak yet that's NPR's genetic so it helps people dealing with depression. Russian anxiety addiction cancer You experience in ego death is legal. It's legal and ceremonial O.`Neil Medicinal settings and you can go to legal in the United States. Maybe maybe not depending dependence with the Indian reservations. There's something to that effect okay. So where are we going with. This is this is GonNa be I I experienced with this holiday call it. What do we call it? This ancient ancient medicine medicine and man. And I'm I'm thinking about doing this because I'm doing doing the Guy Spain. This is a magic drug. The guard monarch cool and stuff and a really. I'm my cocaine. Let me show you you got. Okay let me fuck. You got to go back to finish the conversation. 'cause I'm interviewing until he's talking about this awesome. I thought I can't believe he's still full of Shit. You can't do this and tries on right and I smoke and man. I say I'm dead whole show decided I handset. I'm dead. These people killed me. Holy this country Is Close by close by this this Guy Dr Jerry Mexico. He's a shaman. He's performed thousands of these ceremonies. And don't worry about it and didn't see. You won't believe this. You gotTa See. I've been everywhere when you. I'm not going to not believe anything that sounded all every time. I said this guy disintegrate. I have no longer physical being just all being. There's nothing physical out me and I'm just I'm just gone and I'm dying. I'm Tom is over. Everything is modular is is just I'm I'm happy with that. No one in my life. No wonder you got all these millions of people watching this no crazy shit all of the question. All of us X.. Caught I ask I want power. Empowering disintegrated must've been a hell of a trip Mike is really sleep. It's my first trip. I did five time buddy. No ways wait lamb fan. I'm extremist got when I first met this guy to go. He was doing well but he had a lot On him you know. Obviously he's been through hell and back when you alter all these chemicals in your brain and you start taking this stuff. Yeah a lighter yes if this is crazy it'll be careful no doubt what you doing. I'm not afraid okay. All right deaf. Deaf is not even and existence. I remember even how to respond to that so well. Let's go on to the next one. Hello Hey Mike men. I'm just feeling really overwhelmed right now. Dude I've hit a wall I don't know I'm a a little angry and I wish I could help you but I'm not a trained therapist. I know but you always give such great advice. I appreciate that but I think you should check talk. Space Talk space talks basis the online therapy. That makes it easier to talk about your life and achieve your goal and they have real therapists over five thousand licensed and trained therapists. They can help you with your depression. Addiction is stressed the relationship and more than I do this all from the privacy of my phone or computer. Absolutely that's awesome because stigma about mental health keeps many people especially men from speaking with talk. Space you don't have to worry about it. was he a training for a marathon trying to get a new job. Achieving Gold Stop talk a strong mind and talks online therapy to help you but I can still call and talk to you right Mike. Mike like must have gotten disconnected. Anyway the bottom line is that we all benefit from therapy. Talks base wants wants to give us a chance to achieve our goals and feel our best at a price. We can afford as a listener of hot box. And you can get one hundred dollars off your first month on talk space to match with your perfect therapist for a fraction of the price of traditional therapy. GO TO TALKS BASE DOT COM or or download the APP make sure to use the Code Tyson to get one hundred dollars off your first month and show your support for the show that's Tyson and talks base dot com and we head into the back half of the NFL season. It's always been asleep moment. 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Yeah Right uh-huh is it funny to be on the other side of the The Mike now we I did a podcast with them a year. Well my that one and you know we've hung out together. They're in in in. You know just where you know. We just shared life's experiences and then all over the world so I mean you know we have a relationship. We have a friendship. I Trust Mike and like I said at the hall of fame last year without Mike. You know I wouldn't be where I am today. He's been important part of my career. Eas- east trusted me and In many ways standing next to Mike you along with others along the way you know made me famous. If that's the right word you know you really famous. I don't know about that. I don't even I don't the word but because of all of the attention that might his fame when you're standing next to him and he's doing all this stuff and he's said that is back is broken and he's bitten some guy's ear off and he's won championships and he's the youngest heavyweight ever. It's not just the the the you know the crazy stuff. But it's the immortal stuff for boxing and for sports that he accomplished. You know you get the benefit of that you get you get. You derive all of the accolades that he is accepting. Because you're standing there next on talking so you you you get a lot of great benefits and I've been able to benefit by having having been able to interview Mike at all of these times when public when he had the public's attention and not only was it you know in this country but it was worldwide and and and you know his greatness. All of us have showtime all of us in boxing he elevated all of that. So I've always been grateful to Mike and so so you know more have reached fight like you know what the fighting Jim what. They crave the big league. I beat up Frank. Warren is skeptical. I go to prison after the fight. What's going to happen? And then the fights over quick and what the hell you're thinking what the guy fucking. I'll put that story when that if if I ever write my book the Book I'm not GonNa put it on this podcast Best Story in in the book but Show but I mean let me tell you if I really you know if I really really sat here and thought about it you could do a book on Mike of Everything. And he's done his. He's done his story he's done Undisputed and let me tell you some. He's left a Lotta Shit out material all you and I don't know if it's because they've been ranked on top or was because he didn't didn't want that exposed or if he saving off for the next chapter in the next chapter in the next chapter but let me tell you something every time you said. I can't believe of what I just saw or I can't believe that we just experienced it. Something else happened and here we go again not a plane. That's is going to happen next. I never knew you never knew. And you still don't know I mean you still don't you know it's a journey. Yeah and and you know when my filling high catch what am I doing a pike and I thought this for Weirdo that I a podcast phones and stuff on Youtube. Are you on your phone all the time. Are you one of the only people the only person I called my kids and I don't have me. This company company has me now really so you don't know I don't leave anyway. I'm never out of my wife's and children's site for more than a couple of hours how you've have you figured out how not to be addicted to the phone like everybody else. Everybody wanted hands distance. You know my children my wife. My mother in law father in law. Hello my friend. I come to work with them all in distance everything I wanted relatively. Let's go back to the people who who you began in your life with. Nah I don't know what they're doing in their life or nothing you don't ever see him rory and John Horn never. I don't mean them Teddy. No Kevin now any accusses people who. Yeah Tom Patty. Tom Patio. Yeah Yeah and how about family or the cable now. I don't even see those guys sort of gone. King's family no accord on the day. They apologized life. You did what did you say. The Don Goodman Dan you still get it you know. I don't know Don on probably thought I was trying to set him up on a phone or something I don't know he's. She's very protective skeptical very skeptical. He you know anyone and then I thought he may believe that was being since eighth. Hey you really a good person. You know I feel thank you. Thank you call yearbook protective. What caused that? I don't know because I had a really nasty feeling in my body for throwing warning face. The last time I saw that was that was that was fame. Yeah feel so thickening about that. 'cause I was watching Youtube and Youtube Sheldon show them day wondering why and I didn't feel good about that the way that picture look for calling apologizes stuff. Wow that's awesome. Yeah okay. I shouldn't be doing this shit like that. I've been to. I've been to too much bullshit to be faith like a tough guy tough guy. I still got me so much trouble. I remember my tough all that trouble man. God Jim what was it like getting in the ring after this guy fought to interview. What the Hell thirty fires unchain tiger going to say you know? It's funny didn't know what he was going to say but he always respectful to me and he was any of the position so so we never got nasty with me. He never got angry with me. One time he threatened to kill me. Kill me Don King. He threatened written to kill me and Don King and and he said I'll kill you and I'll kill Don King mad at and he said and I kind of looked at him and forty five seconds later he kissed kissed me on my cheek and it was far more disturbing. That he kissed me didn't wasn't he threatened to kill me so I mean other than that one forty-five forty-five second thing he was. He was on time courteous to me and the people showtime even in his craziest moments. He never lashed out at any of us that I can remember remember. I wanted to Q.. U. N. Don King. Yeah I think he just said it because it was an easy way to get to done. Oh I'll tell you donald standard behind us. Oh No why did you. I don't know why he said. What were you matt him about that after you throw him out of the car kicked them out of the car? Whatever I have no idea and the idea? Do you remember all this stuff a few things. Yeah if you think I'm being in Miami and We're driving down. What does that tend to Miami Miami Miami Twenty to ten on something that freeway? That's always busy. Yeah before turnpike the drive in undetermined. The next thing is free. Coun- I I kicked the guy and kicked him back he puts on a break and we stop in the Middle St beat them in the corner. Yeah I'm trying to get. I'm trying to get the girl on the front seat of the friend of mine to hold Affleck get in the front seat. Because I want to get into the frontal. You can't work Becker. I can't get into where I went to the back of. Oh I'm in the car so I wanted to get out until I told her. Hold on. Let him go. He got the car he got. Because I try to run man EH. Gosh this is on a highway and you just left him on a highway no no he ran. A car are trying to run. The cost another backed her got picking and drove off. And let me give you the highway. Yeah check this out. I'm on the highway wait. I'm wondering highway. So when he gives down there you get the real father. He left the people who I was with my girlfriend and my other. That's the calling their walk up to Hollywood Carter coming down. And they're walking up the highway. Become give me and so one of his security guys in a row he comes. He thinks that we're we're we're stuck on the road so he pulled of over and I'm mad because he's cute. I give him a shot. Bow Out cold reading on the high. We've out co Carter coming. The police leave car comes a police car out. The guy's shoes in the cop behind me. I have cocaine and marijuana having a bus my girlfriend is holding right. The guy gets us into the COP puts it in the car me. Jackie lose them. I put them in the car. Driving through a hotel fit are Yo- came into time. Thank you very much offer and leave us up up to have cocaine and marijuana the big brick of cocaine I got plenty of marijuana everything and talk to my hotel and everything and I'm stuck on the highway. I should be an handcuffed when I for my Alcala Highway. He should put me in handcuffs. We should be in the COP car and we should be go. The Guy put us in the car to a hotel and then he asked me why he was out there. Excuse me you didn't ask you what he asked me. Shit our so my or hot with beeping hearts. I'm thinking he's taken us to the police. Radar Hotel. Wow that's amazing convention. Converter Hotel can't even believe I can't believe he didn't say a word it's over and we're holding the drugs and the others still took us. Okay Mr tiny the author. Thank you officer heavyweight champion time. No no my laugh. I have no money I was broke I was I was destitute. They would he ever did to me and I was. I don't even know what I would do it out there. Now let me ask you a question list. I WANNA I WANNA ask you a question. What did you do with all that money? Hey I gave a loud it away. I have fun and I wanted to a lot of fun I had so many awesome women and stuff when I was a kid. I had a really good time all over the world with fantastic pay doing off forget it was often people wealthy. We almost Almost feel bad. It felt so good it felt wrong. You know it felt wrong. You're wrong to have all this ecstasy. Have all this incision have all this fun all this welfare and feel felt wrong but it was awesome awesome. Do you miss now. No it's got to happen again but not the way happened. Nath time in. Oh so do. I always was amazed. Mace I guess you're supposed to ask the question but I always wasn't maze that you haven't had regret for that portion. You may regret regret in other things that you've done and feel bad and apologized or or whatever but for the way you live your life with that money. No I don't have no regrets breath maybe thumb but no I got older I say no because when I was young I share regrets. You know but I share my life should be. It should be different often. It is now but it is the way it's supposed to be now because it's prepared for granted things now that I'm in the stage of being able to understand them and handle before before I'm not dead for the way I live my life. You know what I mean. I miss the PR- either. How disrespectful I was in during that time thinking that I was caught in I had some tough friend and so you don't agree with me? You'll be in trouble. You won't go out with meal right. Your boyfriend in trouble now is I mean. It's interesting because they've heard you see that Mike and then you know. Jim Talks about how respectful you were to have been to him and his father. And I've heard I heard that all the time you act in you have a ton of respect. That's awesome you ability and I learned that from two but this was going to be. I'm GonNa kiss the ring that's right all right you too man. I'm GonNa kiss the ring but the people are going to kick my ring to. That's the old Mike Right here. We go I hear that emotion here. No it's not. It was never about that. But that's the way I would. Ray Your kiss the rain but they're gonNa Kiss Yours to one day you know but that was all ridiculous breath. When I took the tollway I realized and understood by the toll we all bowing down to God or the strongest post powerful richest the week? Something bigger than us our why. Why do you have a tattoo of days of Grace Arthur ash and Chairman Mao? I use yes. I'm just very fascinated with both of my do awesome individuals and stuff. I really When I was in prison I really wanNA almost got It was almost like a hypnotic effect. They had me well in prison. In what way on how to better myself and strengthen myself for revenge against myself you wanted to die. You get societal society that put me in here Vita me. But it was really a blessing in disguise. Sky's because I started to learn who I could really be who I wanted to be what could be at that particular stage of my life. And what did you learn. What was it that you learn from them? That learnt that we all make mistakes in life but when we make mistakes we will allow those mistakes. Become blueprints wants to a bigger a bigger part of success in life in and then civilization so you were in the right place at the right time for the wrong reason absolutely. There's no doubt about it. I think if I didn't go to prison have AIDS or something. Explain that these people were really myeloma. myeloma winter dying against sick and dying. You know reckless lifestyle reckless Q.. Appetites and that was on fame wagging with let them so. If I didn't get that three years I would probably out of trouble in jail. Pulled you out of that. Yeah big time. I was absolute slave to sensation when I was young fighting before it went to prison. These slavers it felt good. I did it matter what it was. What it who? Who felt good so whether it was sex or drugs or somebody in the head? Whatever make anything felt good? You're being disrespectful to a woman anything is it felt good did it. And how did prison break that. It just the inability to have freedom. No I wanted to be controlling myself. I it's wanted revenge and understand going to printing I was with this dumb motherfucker Alexandre Dumas who this guy. He wrote the book about the Guy who the guy that went to prison journal money. Yeah I thought that that guy fucking idiot that this was that kind of harsh punishment I thought this is the worst thing that can happen to a human being only three fucking. It's my life and I had a ball the prison at a girlfriend pregnant prison. I will live life in prison. I did you do that. And just it's is just was meant to be. I was Mike Tyson. Anybody gave me what I want and I feel like addictive from tough-guy some cool that was just a pick. Who brought you the women? They worked their teachers. How did they allow themselves to get that close in proximity to I don't know so I'm a human being? I got a little bit Kinda smart. I learned very machiavellian a little bit of a scumbag though. I look at people for what they are. Sometimes people have problems that they can't thaw all because they don't have financing. I'm improving but I have money. You now have a few million bucks though. I'm not broked up. You know I mean I think it broke. I came out of prison. They got booed. I would really book so when I'm locked up. I'm not broke. So if they have a problem will have for my money from February to their house so they need anything. Take that what you need in your house fix you need. You need a house period. Do you need a car. And now the Joe the Gel L. situation is awesome. Now my life is beautiful. How many people would you say have that experience in jail? You described jail as being a good experience. I don't know I'm I'm sure listening to him. I didn't WanNa leave when I left. Why because I was secure faith safe from yourself safe from society you say from both both judgment was there was a tough Reactivation big time. Big Time big time yeah. It's always fascinating to talk to Mike. podcast everywhere has so much fucking vindictiveness. Veneman me I wanted to pay the money. You still have so single hearing me. No but they didn't do anything. I think that someone did something to me because I thought that shouldn't have happened to me. Even though I took out of the experience the experience in my life I still feel like it was to my did this to me looking at your best experience to find out more about you. Did you still nothing that you think something. Even at my the worst the worst bottom of that can be in. May I might feel fucking mirror and say wow. I'm good looking. I brush my fucking hair air. My Ego always come up some kind of way get how try to crush it. Do you still have those moments of anger. Not Anger Engano for no when I work out angry. Yeah that's true what I'm working on fucking fearsome screaming sometime. Yeah what do you yeah. What do you attribute that to My experience life by Scranton taking the toll make scream fucking God and then excuse me. I'm fulfill thank God. This thing needs more examination but the toll thing didn't come into your life life until recently so the anger's been there all your fifty three years. Yeah but but it's not towards anybody. There's no physical being caused. My Anger Saul internal all internal. Yeah and how would you describe yourself. Deep internal equilibrium of Mike Tyson. These days I liked forgiveness from Mike Tyson. Yeah you're trying to forgive yourself. Mike always makes me think no I was just I mean I have not yet you. Let's talk about flip. I spoke to somebody today. The Gospel for my everybody flip. DOC was flip. Listen flavored this guy has this is really existing fluid this guy that had a lot of influential pulling all the hotel. This is the eight on what I thought was a pimp. I didn't know flip was original. Pam What did he really I got I knew this about recently. Flip Rep was flip. Who is like a fifth stub? Long before stubhub. Listen this is what I found a really five thousand tickets this guy and he also had women that he gave to some of the guys. I understand that I found that out reason that he was good with the girls to flip drugs. I don't know anything about drugs. He seemed like too much of a straight shooter to have joked anything's anything's possible. In those days he was something. Wow this guy was dressed. Impeccably Black Guy. Yeah Guy with long baby. The Blue One day royal blue the next day he had beautiful green hat. You don't see people like this. They'll make people like this. No more these guys have written out of history man you can't. I believe he was at every fight. All these fights. Yeah with Alex Ferns. He's always kind. Oh yeah all the Sinatra and this guy had everything and he would sit where would you sit and the and the and the Goddamn Hotel Front Bar Caesar. Yeah everything it was used to be a greater came to see flip really by flipping the Joe Louis. Still remember to be around a little with the guy. Oh Aw joke Caesar's and he would you. He was a greeter. Yeah yeah what was that like seeing every day will your father tell the about him. It was great because he was an American hero. He was an international treasure. And then you'd see him and he'd be talking to these people have seizures. You know the government had taken a lot of his money he hadn't paid his taxes or they were after him for whatever the reason and so it was Kinda sad that here was this great American hero. He was shaking hands with everybody in the casino so it was but he was pleasant. You know he was happy with his. You know he was he was very nice. I mean I remember ruined my dad I was just a little boy my dad then we went back and you know it's not like youtube or anything. If you wanted to find out about somebody who had to get the Encyclopedia Korea will work. It wasn't like there were just film sitting around Joe Louis you had to go search and seek the stuff out and so he taught me about him and you know Oh and so it was. You know it was like you became an awe and then you'd see him the next time and he had that history now in your head because you've been taught about him and he was great but I'm telling you he had a crowd around him. Everybody wanted to say hello to Joe. Everybody wants to say hello to Joel. But everybody went to flip to get something done this Joe. Louis set a new standard. Now people do for a living meet-and-greet we do for living normally think people become millionaires meeting ingredient. People that normally would have been bombed sleeping in a car at a memorabilia. Age Now autographed autographed. Lewis would have been holy moly when the die I forget when he died he died today very home for Kuni. I'm no trouble Berbick. Eighty one eighty early eighties. Yeah Yeah Oh wow yeah but this guy was something. Wonderful Day. He had the dying in late. Eighty to ninety wait around for Tyson Holyfield. He went around for that stuff. Yeah Yeah when. When the fights left Caesar's he didn't see him much anymore fun becton through the loudest the guy all on the plane all the reporters on a plane valley? I used to go to fights early and you know it helps us to come early. Every fan he was at all your fights to who John Madden used to be on the bus and we remember that really. Oh yet. Caesar's John would come on Tuesdays. John John used to have all the close circuit fights for the Oakland area. He was like the distributor attributed so he would get all the fights to deliver to the fans and and John Loved Boxing. I mean John Hughes he still watches the face to this day. Texts me talk to me about I. I man John Remember. There used to be that little elevator glass thing that went up and seizes right before we went out of the pool. I forget what the name of that I remember. Yeah you you go out to the pool and there was this little bench right there in madden used to sit there on that bench and he come in on Tuesday and we would end. Gil Clancy would come by and Tim Ryan would come by Dick Young and all the man all these writers would come you know come by and sit down and talk to madden and he would just kind of hold court there and he would sit in You know he was a super bowl winning coach and he was in his you know beginning of his broadcasting career and they would send him like for. CBS sports spectacular to get to interview the fighters before the fights. So you know he would have ray Leonard on or he would have hagler on hearns or durant or whoever it was whitaker you know any of those guys are all those old guys that used to fight you know on on. CBS CBS and Before they're they're closed circuit fights so I used to sit there with John all week because we'd be the only people get there on Tuesday. You know I'd get there early to do you know the top rank at hired me. Bob Arum at hired me to. Do you know all of his satellite interviews and Don Don hired me to do all that All these is a interview so I would hang out with John Madden. He became a dear dear friend and I love John. John was brilliant is brilliant. He's genius Here's a genius. It's about people genius about real estate Genius about football and he became the most popular figure in the history of professional football. You Know Madden Madden the game math today is you know. It's not only did he wouldn't More Games He won he won more games to one hundred. He was the the youngest coach to win. One Hundred Games I and he won a super bowl With the raiders and then he had this incredible broadcasting career. He won like twenty five or thirty emmys. The best broadcaster gaster forever. I mean game so but he'd love Boxing Haley. We used to talk about you all to all my God Mike Tyson crazy letting he's and Mike that John had respect. John had deep respect for athletic ability. Really Oh my God and he he was he. He was enamored by it. He was He thought you know he thought that the guys that put in the work that rose to the top step with the victory platform were guys who earn their way. That you couldn't bullshit that bullshit in life and you could make a team and then you could get on television not know your stuff he's and Madden would always say that guy's a bullshit that guy's a bullshit but then when they champions and and true great players and great athletes he was he was really had tremendous admiration and respect and John Still doing good John's up in Oakland Pleasanton Nice coach Madden. Yeah he retired and he's one of the only two people I know in my life that walked away when he was on top in television. Only only people quit television. Otherwise television. quit you Johnny Carson and John Madden left while they still had a lot left in surprise. You never met coach Matt Do Interview with a couple of envy. They would yeah. Okay good so hey you know Jim were. You was your line through journalism where you really did you as a kid. You wanted to a follow that were you interested in being sports writer like. How did you come hike involved boy? I Love Sports and I was the tennis player and played tennis in high school. And we're city champions and so forth in In Denver growing up and I love. I love sports and playing sports and watching sports and so when I was a freshman summer freshman college going to I went went down to the ABC Station in Denver Nest for an internship or a job and they didn't have anything and they said if you get into school college get an come back and try for an internship ships so I went to college and the first day on campus. I saw the man who I interviewed with these governor. The journalism school and try and get an internship so I got an internship. I was there for a month or two and they were converting from film to videotape. So all the guys who were in the Union for the film took the buyout so they hired me and I got hired as a videotape editor. Nobody knew how to videotape betters. Seventeen eighteen years old so they were teaching every seat sheet. Yeah that's good so they paid me a lot of money. Paid me like twenty five thousand dollars. When I was seventeen years old? That was. I thought that was more money than I ever have to buy. My car was a Toyota Corolla and that costs like seventeen hundred dollars and then I bought beer for everybody. You know in the dorm. I'd get a cake for him every week and I still had twenty twenty two thousand dollars after that you know so I so anyway. One day I was in my edit booth I was editing. A Red Miller was the head coach of the Denver Broncos. I was editing. The Red Miller show at seven thirty in the morning and the lady who was the head of the bureau for assignments came running and she says you know you know some. You know something about sports. Don't you and I said Yeah a little bit she said Mohammed Ali's at the airport port. He took an earlier planes. Two and a half hours early. Go out and interview because back then there were no cellphones. There was no beepers there were uh-huh computers. If you did not answer your home telephone. They couldn't find you right so he couldn't find the anchor man. They couldn't find sports guy that couldn't find any of the report they couldn't get any. Nobody's answering their the phone. They were sleeping there in the shower. Their breakfast no God knows where they weren't on pages back then nothing so so I ran into the weather. Man's office took his coat and tie didn't fit. It was a little itty bitty eighty guy named stormy and the Sport Co came up to here so I took it off but I took his shirt and tie and I went out and interviewed Ali. Ali was coming to town. He was gonNA talk. He was talking about his fight with spinks was coming up and then he was gonNA fight a guy named lyle. That was eight. Oh who was a DENVER BRONCO S in an exhibition after the speaks fight. That's right so I interviewed. Peterman gave me forty five minutes. He was great at the airport He was just. He was just wonderful patient. He was nice he was funny. He was thoughtful. He was all those things. He called me the local young Howard Cosell so anyway so I took the interview back and was going to edit myself out of. You know they weren't GonNa put me on the air but it's you know on the air so the head of the bureau came in there. They had the news director guy named Roger Ogden and he looked at this. And I don't think this guy even knew my name you know. He didn't even know said you. You interviewed Ali said. Yeah he said let me see it showed them all forty five minutes he said. Let me see that again. He's always at an hour and a half with me and he looked at me and he said we're GonNa put you and this on the air. It's barely adequate so I tell everybody I've been barely adequate ever since so so so. ABC saw the people there at the station saw all. He took a liking to me for whatever the reason so they sent me to all of his fights to do an interview. Well then Bob Arum saw that he hired me Don King saw that and he hired me so so I worked for top rank and for King Vision. You know top rank. I you know doing all these interviews. Before the fights all the fighters and that after the fights and then they were put them up you know on these satellites in the early advent of satellites and all the everybody would take him down and use these interviews and it would help them promote their. The early early days of pay per view was close circuit in the theaters. Or you know you'd have to go someplace to watch the fight and then you pay like twenty dollars to go to get into the fight we were you you were born when there was close circuit. We'll all the started close to seventy eight say early seventies. Yeah seventy you know. Probably the first the first Ali Frazier fight seventy one one. Yeah so and then it got bigger and bigger and bigger and then they were figuring out how to deliver to the homes. The you know the theaters and all this so anyway Air Bob Arum hired me and great to me. Then Don hire me and so that's how I really became a sportscaster and there was no grand scheme or planner. Thought just happened by happenstance that I'll e- early and Ali. It was great to me and that was my first interview. Ali was honored me all those years later. He left me Lou his last interview on on television In two thousand. We took We we took America's greatest living Olympian. So we took Muhammad Ali Ali Rei Leonard Mary. Lou retton and Carl Lewis Carlos the most decorated track and Field Mary. Lou Retton who would revolutionize gymnastics in this country with eighty four Olympics Leonard who was an icon and then the greatest Ali and we went up to the Stanford Pool in in Palo Alto Two nights before Michael Phelps left for the Greek Olympics in two thousand four as before he ever won a medal and we bet that he would be the greatest Swimmer of all time that he would break. Mark Spitz is record. Have you spit. Yeah we'll have to deal with me but it's not with the finish this so anyway that that that show the end of that. Show Ali's all these last words on television in that in that interview. We had a torch to us from the Athens Olympic Organizing Committee. That's the one he had yup up and Ali handed the torch and he said I'm the greatest. You're the latest is now up to you handed that torch to Michael Phelps now Michael Phelps all all these years later the most decorated gold medalist in the history of the Olympics I think it's eighteen gold medals twenty two medals overall. And now that show when you look at show you know. I don't think anything like that could ever happen again. The greatest athlete ever our greatest Ali the greatest greatest Olympian ever in in in in Phelps and Carl Lewis to this day still the most decorated track and field athlete with nine gold medals. Auto's broad jumping over four Olympics. You know starting in Los Angeles going to Seoul Barcelona in Atlanta. So and Mary Lou Retton you know all Panamanian popular after Olga Korbut and Ninety Komen each made gymnastics popular and women's sports. You know you can kind of trace to her. Making being it catapults so that was proud of that show. What was the question I was talking to you about mark with? Oh third rumors about me with the guy and this and that and he was nightline nice to to me but he turned down doing night show. He did not want to do that show because he thought it would hurt him commercially really. It was the worst decision ever made by any guy that I mean. Why would you not want to be on television with Muhammad Ali? Mary Lou Retton Carl Lewis and and and Ray Leonard and Michael Spits. I mean it's like it's and Michael Phelps. I mean it never made any sense. He thought it was going to hurt his commerciality. He thought that it would somehow detract from. I don't know I can't explain in it but I had. I talked to him thirty times about the show. He was always very pleasant but I could never get him to commit to do it and eventually he just passed passed on doing it. And it's kind of sad but turns out. We didn't need them the better off. We didn't have them now that we look back on it. Did you know Jackie Robinson. No Sir no I know his wife. She's alive yeah just Jackie Robinson Day last week is Great Robinson Robinson. Yeah Yeah No. I didn't know her but I remember you know who else used to come into Matteo. Who Ray Robinson really? Oh Sugar Ray Robinson all all the time. Oh Yeah. When he died he probably died and his funeral? He used to come in all the time we only off day everybody. Oh Yeah He. Federal big drought. Everybody wanted he considered the greatest fighter. Ever you know pound for pound. Wow well listen How could somebody equal handle that? How how can what good for my ego handle that? Being called the greatest of all time you the great thing to ego how do you how could he live like that. Wow that must've been some demons you know what though because he had losses. Yeah you know the ego is with the zero okay. So like like look at Floyd Floyd walks around fifty. No yeah okay wait a minute wait a minute. So that when you when you never undefeated then you know you think you never will be defeated. You are Rocky Marciano. I didn't know him but he had no after him. To write rare rare Robinson never had that oh so he knew what it was like to lose so when he was called the greatest he could say well. You know what that's your assessment may not be my assessment because my assessment is I know I lost. How many times did he lose? Lutheran nineteen time. Okay so we lost a lot two hundred to five hundred lockout so he and he knew what that felt like so anytime somebody might say to them. You're the greatest he might say. Well I'm going to accept that and thank you but I know internally better taste his story about this is just a story a little just a small part of his career welcome. I think you might be forever talk all day. Me Roberson edited had he was forty Ano. Just one fight Sugar to we're good friends laugh and go ahead and fine go ahead start. Robertson have forty forty Ano- and then he lost the fight sugary. I'm not Jake Lamotta as I laws. And then when like seventy nine or something whatever loss. How do you do some thinking to greet? The guy looked so beautiful when they looked like perfection he was tough and rugged like a dog competitive you have to kill him the beat them. It's just really. It's marvelous. Entertainment watching them fight with just ooh awesome. What do you think of this batch heavyweight? Hey I think they have their purpose in their generation. I think the all I think since wilder in type of fear we had those. Yeah I think that fight Generation of great heavyweights. I really believe. Take a great man really. Yep I don't know him. You're yeah you should. You should take the time. You should take the effort and vice vice versa. I I think you said that they. I'll look at it from that perspective. Yeah Yeah. Because he's worthy he's worthy and he's got oh he's got a young child who's spinal Bifida and so forth and you know he's been a terrific terrific father and reading I think I yeah I think Anthony Joshua Lens Lewis. You Talk. They have some kind of funny. We're beef right and I don't like that that I think they should talk. It shouldn't be like that these two guys don't you mentioned namely how you know it's really not good and Tyson. Fury is an interesting subject to all. He's awesome. I'm guy though. We have very interested in his his his background and he. I don't know how that guy got up. That was like that was unbelievable. That was like Frankenstein. This guy get up off the carpet. That was incredible but anyway. But yeah like these guys you know I. I didn't but I started to respect. The widest is awesome. That's good that's that's good. Boxing needs to have you involved involved. And for sure you bring you bring out in people memories of that are onto onto him so your your involvement should be important to you because it's important to the people and if you put an arm around some of these fighters and you give them your respect and your time. I think it would really help the game and really is opposed to you know so much now. Everybody looks back at their generation and says you know what we were better and they get resentful full of the money that these guys make and the attention they get now but everything's changed. Social media's changed televisions changed the delivery of its changed. The dollars have changed. You know. It's just it's just it's just crazy back in your day when you were fighting for all that money people looked at you to same Ali's generation and and all the shavers and all those other guys looking at you and I said well he couldn't and beat me. They didn't say it but they felt it. Yeah they had to feel that right because you know but but I think we live in a different time now in a different era and I just think your participation would mean a lot. You're yeah you're the guy you're the guy they look they look at you on the video games. They're looking at you on Youtube. They're looking at you all these knockouts and everything and in and in many ways what they want to be she is be you but they can't be you but they want to have the ability to have your respect that they can't have but that's up to you wear because how young kid that's all I wanted to Lee. And the sugary Larry Bird around my name and respect you. Yeah I I didn't care today. I just wanted to know my name. No I trained hard worked hard to go to the restaurants outside the restaurants really. And what did they know your name Did they know but I usually watch them take a break. We'll we can in rap. That's talking Jim. UPN A such a close friend of Mike. It makes it you know you go. Oh for hours so hey man thank you so much for coming in thank you Mike. You're anytime will migrate episode. They'll do undertake a right. Everybody thanks for watching another episode of Hot boxin with Mike Tyson. I'm Evan Britain. I'm Mike Tyson. I'm Jim Gray and and JIM grade do they need to. If you want anybody to know what again touch with you how to contact you okay. All right thanks guy. Threw him subscribe on our Youtube Channel. Hot Box with Mike. Tyson subscribe on I tunes CHECK US out everybody. Thank you Outta here peace. We've got a girl coming. I'm GonNa tell you something. You should not have this on a podcast. This is much more valuable than putting this on a podcast. You you should have this video and you should make this into something other than that because what you're exposing here you have exposed and I don't mean to interrupt your business or anybody's businessman business miss you but this is this is this is you. Don't don't do this here package this into a format where you're getting paid not where you're hoping to get paid because what's in your head and what you divulge is captivating and if you do this right the story I know your story story. I know your story inside out okay. I've lived it but some of the stuff that you're talking about and if you went back through it I could pinpoint where it's new don't don't do this here. Don't give yourself away. Do not put this out on a podcast. This is too valuable. Turn off these cameras and this episode of Hot box is sponsored by talk space head over to talk space dot com or download. 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Racism and Hate with Matt Murray

The Community Safety Podcast

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Racism and Hate with Matt Murray

"We can transform our communities in the twenty th century foods this global a meal. Welcome this is the community psyche. Tasked with your host. Jim nixon today the community podcast sciences. Attention yet again to racism and hates it is so important that we kate raising awareness around subjects. I'm we look at. Why is how we communicate these issues. In the twenty first century mike guest suffered horrific racism when he was a young boy growing up in the littoral area and then he went on to be appreciate footballer way gain. He suffered racism at the hands of some funds. This incredible interview. Please take listen to snippet of today's interview can still remember it to the first thing i did was the ball. Come through and he's like he looked kidney stone. Line get it going around a slave got the ball and this is like one of the first times like that. You know played and above. Experience like series racism. I came with a slit out on a got the ball and the player random trip told me can still state now is is is a it was a a white referee was quite old police. Fifty sixty s white hat and he gave penalty gave a penalty. I was nine years old. Wants ten you. Don't give penalties another member to parents saying we know why he giving it. We know why you've given it. And he was like that was the reason. An unlocked looked now. Nothing the only reason he and that was my first game. So i can still remember it now. And how can do that to a kid. And i had to be taken off. The crime is not a time podcast. Welcome to the community podcast. I'm your host jim. Nixon been working in safety for over twenty five years. This podcast will explore how we can transform communities in the twenty first century. I'm delighted to introduce the dies. Guests as matt murray ma spent his entire career will moon just for all club. He progressed through the wolves academy system to sign professional forms in nineteen. Ninety eight was promoted into the wolves first team on the thirty first of august. Two thousand to the season ended with him. Producing the man of the match performance. In the playoff final in may two thousand and three way produced a number of vodka saves to help the club win promotion to the primarily the pick bane the second half penalty. Save from mike. O'brien his career. Unfortunately was kittle injuries. And he retired. The twenty nine central matters words as a match reporter an in studio summariser for scarlet sports news and he was the goalkeeping coach at the inaugural kaddoumi. Whoa that's quite an intra. That was matt. Thank you so much coming onto the commute. Like do podcast today. I'm good thank you and yeah. Some good memories at brings battle are cut down as well. So yeah you've even though that was guitar. That's iowa you had some good signs that you really thank you for coming on i am. I always thought my podcast. We've looking at people's early library. I think he's really important when we do these podcast than the audience. Lavi as well is that we dig a little bit prince a year as a person when you grab grabby book so tell me about the mass the math. So yeah. I was was adopted from birth. So my you know. My necessity is. My mom was english about logical. Data is nigerian Never met live rhythm mos seaborn as put into foster care than adopted by a big. You know my who. I call my mom and dad. If you lie lindor lingering in They separated they both remarried And that's where i met my step. Dad who's steve and he was a massive influence on my football so he was evident finally came into my life at six. Still very very close to my dad as well but my stepdad was amazing He saves everyone finds her naval. South was my hero displayed. Lots and lots of football growing up around the litchfield area little village. They're quote while hamlet could help a elmhurst and then grew up around lichfield. Yes or just. Yeah just played lows and lows event. You know full older time. Love that and there it was it was. It was different upbringing but very very enjoyable. How did you find that sort of that situation that you had no control over your obviously a mix race card boy in that kind of scenario high. Did you find that grubbing. A hit was of always in yours adopted right from from stopped. Because i was everybody in my adopted family will white so it wasn't no secret. They also adopted there. My brother ben. Who was his. Dad was from barbados his mama's english so we weren't biological brothers. Book called him a brother. You know but i always say i was really really lucky. You know i've saying the they didn't give me the gift of life but life gave me to give to them. I couldn't have felt anymore loved. It was amazing them. They forever reason it could have changed. The really really wanted me than my adoptive dad went on to have children live another lady in married gannon's stepbrothers Insisted their side must step. That had already had children but for me and my brother say were both adopted in honestly feel that the special special people but it will identity things growing up in a group in a very very white area and i did experience a lot. Racism which is a big topic at the moment. Sometimes maybe it was hard for my my doctor parents to to know multifamily if he liked to know how and sometimes you to come home and he'd been in a fight we've been chased from school. Kids will let you play just because you're different and that was difficult. It was difficult and remember playing games of football as a place called showbiz lane and play him so the kids from me stages behind Could devout fields and surrounded the pitch in wanted to set traps remain light he saw like all on a do is play football of them. Nothing and he's not a crime to be you know to be mixed race. I was proud. I am very very proud of mccullough but sometimes when you really oh kid growing up on we wanna do is do. Everybody else is doing then. Sometimes you did thing hallway always white like everyone else you know but you learn to deal with that very lucky that my parents told me not to treat it with violent. So did i get some scrape. Just did but i never start any. It was nothing i could do. Any was literally last result. Really comfortable with who. I am a my janney. But i feel that sometimes it was hard for me because i would perceive racism from white people and then when i went to football i would be around a lot of the blatt. Lads a lace coconut and say things that so my identity was a real challenge book yum a movement mortgage temiz. I've heard a lot of times nov experienced south. You get dot com coconut. Scenario of of gaul a-block friends masao fund and also mixed race friends. And i about not. And he's just a crazy situation isn't it up told to Of interviewed the chief prosecutor said on this podcast nazaire. Abso- you've probably heard we discussion. Just people ended. The day doesn't matter way. Become from it doesn't matter the color of asking. We'll just people i. I don't say coloring people soot you know yes. Be proud of where you come from. The may call. It doesn't matter we're all just human beings trying to do the best for ourselves and our families in each other he doesn't it doesn't resonate we've made too and that's very fortunate. Though the of see the family adopted into they love this light in a blood. But you couldn't have had any more lovey really couldn't and my parents have gone on to do so much stuff so light him. Never have. Christmas day was always doing voluntary. Were mom the state of stuff in pool with orphanages in romania and everywhere that they do refugees days now move. Hamilton whatever i invite people from wolverhampton the refugees over to bishop's castle meal a day on they donate blood Good good people. Went for a lot of stigma than my of Adopted me when i was young. They went through a lot of four years ago. Is you know there was some serious stereotypes in prejudice every out so then i met an amazing sunday league. Managing don assulin again. He just didn't you say they saw the person they sort human being. And i have some amazing tonj playing sunday league football coats and then playing for the county district stafford. She account county. Nine years of age got picked up by wolves and again went on an amazing journey there. So many coaches aaron people come into your life at the right time and he tap into that yes. So did i experience. Racism yesterday did but all in all had a fantastic childhood love my childhood maximum mazen people. People are still friends with now when school christ than into friday anna but yet sixteen years of age when i moved actually into wolf fulltime but i was at the age of nine and like you said in in show retired twenty nine so it was it. That's my club got so much lovable. I've got a few family members of love affection for the even though villafane scientifically i put. It's a great and there's a lot of great things about not club and the must be amazingly. You must be amazingly prior to what which age there. I think one of the things just pace upon us. What what you said was it was. It was really good to hear what your parents said to you in high calling the instill into the wasn't the roy to react to violence. Yes you had few scrapes. But you didn't react in the. Why possibly some kids could enough eight. Not just shows the having potent. Those role models are young guy. H yeah Kill kindness In my parents said that ultimately violence than you. So we're gonna compound what they think will just escalated so Fortunes said sometimes when people would literally the Tap for just for listening for no reason whatsoever and if he could it was fight or flight sometimes you know and that was the thing that's yet we went like that and as i got older if ever did experience it i would like to try and educate people very very passionate about show racism. The red card kicked out always a player held which the flight out. Because you can hold a cod. We can wear t shirts about giving time talking to kids Taking time doing that so learning so island a lot. I've learned a lot about about language should Prejudices defied so yet. Very very fortunate to have really really good parents. Good people around me But yeah gone back to time. Wolves walk wotton amazing club amazing people to values enjoyable my mesa villafane. So i was one of biggest regrets. Is that when we went to the premier league was injured. Because i wanted to play in front of the ho- end knowing that have been about honesty for one hundred two hundred people. I went to school with given all sorts. I was desperate to play on that. I didn't do that. Played against the owl being played against blue stoke. Everyone else less coventry. Whatever but i never got to play at villa park shine and that's a real shame. Honestly that will be is to. I would love to play in a park. And i would love to play at goodison. Yeah yeah interesting grind. Yes old-fashioned ground and again stepped up. Being evanston finally went now on loan on an emergency loan for a couple of games but ended up taking sunday festival instead of me so again to That 'cause with made my stepdad so so proud so hear back. Anything is there's a couple of things you could have had. It would probably have been few lotions but look still met. Some great people millennium stadium. He said mazing times. But a you child is what set you up for that if you like. Yeah i was just going to pick up on what you mentioned. The initial coach. And i wanted to ask you about is so important. These people to play those early party career that you never forget them do none. And so i don don ask the wizard wolves fan. And he was there when wolves navy went out of business and he donated some of his wages to try. And keep the cook govern. And we used to get free tickets. If you wolves in school boy's academies you get free ticket so he had a son cook guys his wife. Denise ages made football so much fun and a fulltime jobs. They were parents yet. They washed kit open. Water meetings organized fixtures took his that they made football funds so all of the managers would say i become a play for me. Don't have to pay subs undo do this or give you that. I wanted to play a dumb. I wanted to play for don. He was the best time My first ever game for domino's at cannock played away. Canucks will never forget it so nervous by so excited to play on these two plane age group above myself. We need to use to Player in down at the bottom was the pitch on a bit of a slow with leaves. I can still remember it to the first thing. Date was the bulk. Come through in his kidneys down on your line on iran as slave a got the ball. Unless you like one of the first time zeigler played Experience like series racism. Okay so i'm the only black kid playing in the league. I never used to come against left with one of a black pedicle member. Antony gardner when plays the tottenham aria import veil in that so i came in a slid out on a got the ball in the net player. Ryan tove me. I can still state now is is It was a as a wide referee was quite prolific fifty sixty. So in your kid you feel more sixties white hat and he gave a penalty gave penalty nine years old. It was ten. You don't give penalties member. The parents saying we know why given it. We know why you've given it. And he was like. That was the reason i look back now and i think the only reason he that was my first game so i can still remember it now can do that to a kid and i had to be taken off crying. 'cause i was so upset that my first game voters team the i'd cost go and that was my main on winfrey. That book there was people. Like donnie would just mean. Give fizzy Few sweets and then he took down to the wolves games. And this and that i still remember to this day when it came out from debut at me and i looked up for a season tickets warning slight shed imitate because he was so proud the he played that pie in that and using amazing guy and pick meal took me everywhere and just such a kind kind human being in an amazing a lovely wife. Lovely kids unjust such. You could could So yeah people wasn't people at him. I would never have ended up playing football. There are some really lovely story that just a really do agree with. I think these people they they said that south list they would voluntarily and they. The people that make the superstars in the future all night. They really are. They play such an integral parts of it. Because my parents i three of us evenings so fantastic parents lows support but if people don't help it lifts in picking whirlpool is to say when the kids kids surrounding mogollon. They wanted to get me like me. Can see to fear in the You know the one summit in santa. Monica remember walking home but in overtime they came on training and dunzo of diffused it and the parents diffused it. And yes those people like that that you know. Change your life in deal with these difficult circumstances but to keep football fund. That's what it's about each one of an amazing time. keep it from. Inanimate made a goalie. Coach martin thomas the so many amazing he would play for beverage to go new custody united even amazing coach. Wolves have so many people wolves that would just helped me but it was my sunday days. the the pave that if you like him. And that's why when you hear this stuff about certain coaches of abused position he thinking. How can you do that. You know it's position people's dreams. And i was very very looking at everyone in who i met on. The way really really helped me. Yeah it must be devastating. Analogy is the the poll stewart story in iran. All the other people around the area affected by by your coaches that obviously abused abused their positions. And it's just great to hear that you're one of those individuals that would doubt we've really sincere on station people because when people suffer these conduct issues that lawyers always think effectively all very very ruined by now. You say views repulsed even to the sti- way the gall just will never get over. I'm not saying is so much good that can be done. And what things you're going through for me. Football mice scape. It was my wisdom passionate love. The anticipating nazi dreamy dream of becoming a professional footballer new. Hang on every word of what these coaches say you know. Citizen of a coach said minds. Thomason he took time of his of wolves and wasn't told them and because it was adopted they knew how big is gonna be on. He radio really took time looks at macquarie as some attributes told me do not while couldn't do would put sessions on after the matches repaid. But he knew then i would walk from wolverhampton grammar school. The the stadium. Some like that to the bus get bus bus into the station at wolverhampton trained from wolves to bemis nutri boom new sheik back to the field. And take me hours to get home. Because i wanted it. So bad moment was a roast in douma. Homework can go again. You know that was me. Monday night jews not wolverhampton. Thursday was literally training saturday. sunday games. You know you really committed to it so it was either schoolwork football and he knew how how long to me but for him he could go past my house. It's me about half an hour thirty five minutes if you if you drove it east to drive me home. Drop me back in East just retired from the fa as you remember saying to him a pet. You an amazing that that's what i said. 'cause he was houston amazing person and then worst every time to win that. Many black goalkeepers or anything then began ice. Look david james shocker. His love they were like my heroes growing up. Because i could identify with them. Your full i. But then it was. Then because i could identify with him and again people would say all strike. 'cause you quick and you fascinating like ma and just never did any of that. I think because suggest cable does involve the wolves and then jazz moxie later on. It was so many. An the sony black coaches and this and that was it was just never felt. It was any stigma zo. Racism there that made sense book. But martin thomas say he used to drive me home ec two alexa and who will again wasn't him giving that time i don't know if ever had a career so again. What an amazing amazing person who got so much love for him to the brenta hair and i think he's just shows that if kids like you at that time are given the roy support in the right direction. Yukon prevent cates from being dying. These routes say ni- getting into trouble in gangs and stuff a it just shows just having poll. Dial to to say k. Rolled apply the more the merrier familiar in the more. And get people doing these kinds of things the more chance. We've got of improving things improving communities in reducing crawling over Playful wolves lady called mrs flash and she used to pick allows the laptop from birmingham and bring them in on in a minibus. And it'll come in playful different midland's teams and some fantastic plays so again because it is it difficult for for parents to get people. They young kids. You know not only the time but the expense in every ounce of and if you got over you know Children as parents is really tough. I know what he's like now as a parent and when you're young cagey. This'll take it for granted but i'm buying the boots. The gloves every pronounce is really really. Tough Yes so when when people go the extra yard just because they care and they get that reward not feeding from it and that's why when you do become professional footballer and you in a position to make a difference you you wanna give that time back. 'cause you remember how am i my background. My parents are both you know indecent jobs you know. They really struggling for money. Went light wedged but we send in struggle for money year ramsey. Imagine how some some parents there is is so difficult to. Let's say volunteers people go above and beyond really really kind people who just their reward for them is just senior developing abba career. And yes so as you say. I think behind everybody's had any source exists. An unsuccessful relative is because it been good people along the way outside the grey wolves when you were nine year odyssey picks up really really young. When did you think it was that time when you realize the not maury as a youngster was really a good chance of mike and it was my dream to be a play. But the wasn't In england trials or anything all the way through was always happy forgotten of the year school. Boil catch on do here now that they did one release and because it was another goalkeeping echoed Told a maine and he. He was a lot more visit advanced. But that's what my in. Thomas came in stevens go go goalkeeper but felt. I had more potential than worried that i wasn't going to be six over six. Full immense suddenly remember combat one summer grown voicing breaks of us fifteen but technically i was okay i understood it then went into wolves and fulltime sixteen. Anything him yeah. I'm okay. i'm not by that. She was on the bench for the first team by christmas. left school in june july was on the bench for championship. Side in the fa Running we got. I did three or four at least three times on the bench. We actually made the semi final of that. Competition gave me a five year professional contract. Seventeen play for england under sixteen. So folks you know. I'm doing okay here. But the problem as a group of Training so much in demand the time load and probably looking back at it now. That would be the woman not regret. But i know that if i was coming through in this generation they manage me look differently because of my you know they understand the physical the maturation to people. But i would say yes. Sixteen seventeen when appropriate people saw to looking thing as got chance of actually having a career but they match. You think kids play too much yet. I think a lot of stuff that was great. The aegis play them maybe nine. Now this in the don't you don't people join academies Nine but it was so much more regimented now than it was then and he couldn't then you could still play district to me school in this. So what do feel that. We everyone was tired of the same rule treat treated with same S- programs enduring the same way in the sameness whereas actually if someone who's six foot to be like that for years and god forbid where i was still growing and growing. Don't yeah so every every night we call it of unique to those individuals all night. Yeah spoke yeah yeah The sports signs in the game and some more advanced than when you were probably i in a backpack in the two. Thousands wasn't yes. Ninety seven ninety seven ninety eight was when i started fulltime and it was not yet and because went straight into the first team. So when you start school at sixteen in any training with like mike style. Every day and i team players like steve bull kiko. Everyone like that don goodman. You'll you'll rot your max because you're young. You're young money's still boy than you training with these men than any plane in reserve games with men and book like because i was still playing for the youth team dynamite planning reserves in trouble. I got any days off. Arrest is part. You know recovery spot you training. So that's why now when i help. Guide young footballers in with coaching backgrounds. And if announcing really make sure that you know would listen to the body in the right rest in the get as well a bespoke. He'll say no spoke signs. But why is it goalkeeper. During the same races center forward you know no different positions positions specific stuff to make you right and where we all about getting size and doing stuff soccer listed gym. But it wasn't conducive to being a goalkeeper. So yeah yeah. I i think of votes needed Deny ferrier early sixteen seventeen operations wasn't rehab correctly. So yeah i was around the i invariably but that will be a bit. Was the the hottest bit for me. Lopata manifield yeah was mismanaged. Yeah but he's already difficult hindsight's griping is is a great thing. I was going to ask you about the first time when you actually my. What is that. Like as an individual It's amazing because it had loan so only five year contract to seventeen Brilliant any injuries in this in that luckily Amazing goalie coach. But we didn't get much time we've Zony in two days a week. So i would go often serve. His first team outfield. The majority of in the senior goal is with with with peak. So then i had. My injuries have been out on loan. And they hadn't worked been sent back and things behind the sun. Five year contract would have been released in all these different trialists in this in that win away. One summer Worked so hard bobby mimms. It come in goalie. Coach is amazing. Had a fantastic. Preseason that tried to bring people by thing every time it was like well why bring him in when you got map there behind michael. He's he's not conceded a goal in preseason training while. He's doing this doing that so he got injured at police away. I thought it was gonna come on in the game. I didn't go play. Iphone is going to be a fitness test on the moaning the game will play wimbledon away but sellers park so sellers pop for palestinians. Magor the palestine's. But this is when wimbledon will become an afc wimbledon Sorry going to become m. k. Don sorry usual fallout to the fans are boycotting so on the friday. I'm thinking Will he's going to play or at least the defense side more him. They jones's named the team on the friday on his plane. So what dad couldn't come his wedding on on that day Play wimbledon travel down. I was nervous conceded straightaway but still good because we've moved wolves finds wimbledon fines which took Section feel for running than oak see gothic. Play the game. And then still wasn't ryan. I was back in and that was eight and i played forty seven games in a row of real felt a real debut was at malla new home to read in any just. He was on that Nine going through any copy to get schoolboy contracts and you happy to get a pro contract in play may eighteen reserves mesa tunnel in poland's leading you out and every fin out houston amazing. Feeling the countdown running out so we lost the game. Got mad at a match book that i took a really high free kick. I'll never forget anything This but came into his ball miles out that was it. Then that was my us s. I'm gonna come eat crosses and be dominant in my area and that was a big laughing. The fans live with say folks will funds. That was that was my standout things. So yeah but it was. It was a feeling. I will never ever forget and i'm very privileged in my opinion because i know that there's very very few fans ever lived. The dream plan out there and they would love to do how i manage jim. 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Released now is in an essay so i used to get very nervous before game. So i had to do law coping techniques with the Even if like you said they're 'bout in line the playoff final for example when radha game that people gave me manda matching did. Oh like i've always that. I could have hit that kid. Can i should have cooled Amin that that was how i was is a passive. But eh i love i love falls on. I was going to ask you. I'm up in around a lot of sort of decent sports people. Because i was involved in athletics when i was a young kate so i was orion people. You may remember some of these guys phil. Bryant date redmond of individuals and then we used to talk about so of a visualization and. I'm to try and sort of connie cope with these kinds of ways of dating nerves. We would go through. I'm visualizing the rice and high. We would run it iowa. Recite two hundred. I would tighten the band that would become off the bang into the strike would you. There's something similar Visualizing how you would handle certain situation. Yes when i was young. She used to ten complex. When i was sixteen than really get it. Get the five ten books in wherever it was that. Have a in the morning. I didn't understand on display in on the bench. But i used to look during the shoot in just before the team's win 'cause the stands full behind like shooting session. Full grounded is amazing As he got older than yeah a knew more about it Reading baez is a kid a bit like just gun in the flow and then when it got serious Never saw did stuff with hypnosis. And but yet visualization affirmations massive so making sure use the right wording. So i won't make a mistake today. It was i have safe hands. I have great reflexes. I- oh my box. Everything i i make big saves every i'm gonna do than it will stop playing a game ahead so yeah. I used to like to room on my own. If was a way game of a home game on. Go for walks up right down. What i am not see could stop the smell it feeling so i was already playing the game. So could see me. Ten defenders to squeeze hold on the line visualizing contacting across. I used to watch footage of myself making the save students still because whenever i did stuff it didn't feel that goodly cashed across you should do this but my psychology will watch yourself by then you watch similar stuff and that might be why the funds that he likes you because you you not bad. Go watch that someone else is doing that. What would you think anything so when you in the moment it feels different when you watch. Listen to commentary as well. Sometimes if like games with report is saying you know gray say murray and all that. And that's what i felt used to be Wasn't superstitious alight routine about eight minute sentence on before kick-off walk in and stretch in listen and everything fell on. I still like that now. A light routine before this guy alike routine before a big meeting things that made me feel like you know even just like shave. My added trim abedin shower the suit. The nice after jami all things that make me feel of got real purpose. I'm doing so yeah affirmations in. That was huge for me as a when you literally when you go out you already typically. Yeah because there's a goalkeeper econ play away into a game so you have to be arousal levels right but yeah you have to be switched on. And everything is. I've been told it's been proven that those muscles Firing in twitching and everything else and even talk about it now. I used to drive to steinway into stadium because it made me feel that and when you walk into the ground the smell of the dow so now defines back in the smell of the big vans. And the ev philippine with match day was like smelling the dressing rooms. And i feel it so yes. This is nothing at the nap. Feed on a match day that something. They're very hard to replace when you retire. It's is addictive. Honestly when that roar fear of failure in a bit you know in that challenging euro and being on the edges full ground is just the best and the lights. It's amazing. I think i think the pressure on a goalkeeper really big as while listening. It's like as a striking mris. You let go we. It's all on usenet really you are under the microscope bowl. Sometimes as a as a k pry nso among Replay my stepdad. Love for him because he to think will he just said we've trained haji. Donald stuff control you can control. Don't be scared to make a mistake. Actually no you can go and be the hero. That's what you'll be because you've really well you go to bed at the right time. You control this stuff. Don't worry about the weather because you can't affect that so he changed my mindset into that so if did make a mistake it was used to say can cope with it because we wouldn't rav different sunny Rather different dot. So we know via cigar when he played at freedom is like okay and actually you learn to love being one they left for nil because when your kid and you still do wish away in a bit mat sister he does that make sense. Sometimes you wanna look but you know where home someone away to someone like you know. You beat now being one. They'll and you just think him. Blow that whistle. Blow that whistle because euro off kept a clean sheet may decide. That said. don't make mistakes. But i'd give anything now to have one more game against the album. What will be will be to be fit but when you do have that side when you on the pitch leash you can control some than anything while i'm not gonna let anything. I'm going to say. I'm going to manage the game. So yeah is if there is a fair but Ran away from home named think those fans thinking they scored. And you just make big days. Cloud Not just must be amazing as a good feng date dog once or twice probably the the but the good times my harry important you think when you talk about teamwork and i think having you think good culture within the sector centerpiece within within the club. Everything everything that's why i feel mick mccarthy's one of the best peop- leaders Of ever worked under in any way and still speak to make now a colin gafa. He got the line is perfect. You haven't really know. Many people didn't like him and i certainly don't know anyone who didn't respect him because he led that culture from the top respects. All the way through we talked to everybody correctly commemorating cleaning snow off the pitch clearance Show we could train on the grounds was they will thinking. Well you know easy mme. Bring a tray of tea coffee out some biscuits whereas shovel. Whoa so the gaff was like that presentations. Look i've got my name by a couple right who's going web because the people in the offices celanese school you know school holiday camps and all. That can't do it without you. And by the way you on winning that much on the pitcher you went on the pitch you makes him a lot easier for heaven. You know what he going to the contrast bathing by savage sharon. Leave you you you you slip. Japan's in the corner of the shower nine. You're gonna have no pants because you got picked him up. It was just respect respect respect but he was so respectful. He was so hard working. Honest mistake no problem joe. Gaffer got listen that home also gaze of home. Now do the do the right thing. I'll be there for my family before i would football. If i mean you get yourself now but then you wanna run through. Brick walls wolfram. You wanna do anything for him so treat you. As adults gave ownership created a culture of were being the best she could be able to express yourself but so much respect him. Yes so. I think that is everything and you couldn't cheat. You wouldn't want like if someone had been racist on the pitch and he heard it or did some. He don't worry the faa would need to deal with it. He would deal with that. You would never be jones. Said it would be no discrimination. He he is one of the best human beings i've ever known human size brilliant seattle the knowledge pronounce aca. But i still think he always got the best out of everybody. And he's no no coincidence. Wherever he's gone teams. I think overachieved because if the coachella he he creates on a think another part is while for me was i think terry connor play the big pot in that too. Didn't they and quite an influence on your career. You know as as another black man. But i think he not the bit of a stint as the manager. Ea play the mighty part in. That cod mick. Mccarthy sort of ethos and setup terry collins an amazing person honestly the values of that man. They complement each of a him. A make both very similar values but different ways of going around getting what they want and Tc so good at one. Zero one chassis. Putting yet should work on looking at shrimps concentrating on black coach amazing role model. So if you had a plan cancer off because if anyone's say for racist his way with bank. I'm saying you will improve. The referee said that nation. But maybe it was a white coach saying it wouldn't resonate as much t. So of us to tell us stories about what he went through any played for leeds in banana skins in songs. They sang horrendous. Racism like not even hit enough in the cover was just like buying on blind to he felt the he flew the flag and pave the way so that young black plays myself joleon coming through. Wouldn't experience what he experienced the every sewer young while any place any probably wasn't coke the white He's amazing to don't but subconsciously may be looking thing. Whoa let me to you know because it would hurt because he thinks down a career opportunity of his generation game. Listen he believes now. It'd be generation to fly the flag in the media. We've coaching managerial roles. Because that's generation now coming through because for black players now yesterday received racism on social media areso prejudice. But the you know there's so many black players playing in in some of the most elite teams around the world where before that wasn't commonplace so he he is honestly man i love love t c. Bits big sur Would still ring bouncing off him. They didn't see successive. Just how can. I get wolves first team if you had any so of career boom success. If you just helped you become a bad human being success. So again i use that would values coke today created and yet terry conners wa- family again a real real solid standard up people be yeah saugus ahead is obviously we touched on racism early running your life and yet we've just took on the render so of rice in black playa suffered in the seventies and the eighties. Dj suffer much as a professional In the wolves team when you apply no one ever owned a picture. Wolves form a fellow professional. But from the terraces. Yeah there was a fee. Stadiums played in Onset especially being a substitute or is it gonna keep going to get the ball from behind the goal than i didn't report it just for you. My wave reacting was only gonna do. I'm gonna show you the fixed game than that was my way all the way through as a young kid. You know in the playgrounds literal. When i'll name him when she went out communicates now still told me. Convey football because of mcculloch can still see now may ac- face it can hear those words and so when people used to say that to me didn't ever want deter me as older. Because i knew they couldn't have me a my reaction. Was i'm doing what he loved the You'll never stop me doing that. No chance to do that on a plate baron. I don't ever remember losing a game winning. Ray she debuts honesty when the waving the twenty one Here to it. The italy won't the half. I played drew now now but we lost the game but we got facial wound up there again with the faa was dead. You start you wanna warm up somewhere else. That game was live on italian tea being swastikas and You know they will lie. Monkey chants every fan. There's an ultra section. Nothing was done So yes so from the terraces. Even playing for england in the sixteenth was the only time actually racially abused on the pitch in that was playing against cyprus. That applies apologize after always be beaten his by so many would just wanna put you off as a team place evacuate to say way and be being a black goalkeeper Eight or nine hundred that mcgrath so the monkey chance of massive than inexperience of it but we didn't nothing was really done about it. We didn't walk off the pitch. We weren known even radioactive how we were we just call won a game and we win do receive social racism now on social media whenever it's a black lives matter so of subjects on sky guaranteed when he chat you twitter or whatever. I don't i'm not big on. Instagram is open but which is no beijing. You know your guest here you know at the airport is all lies. A wildlife is a black day. She back so yeah. I get it but for me. I don't react in a in a way of you. Know i mean that compounded so either killed people who've kindness Baco disappoint you. Feel that way what you you know what you mean by that you realize the blah yes oh He's never since i was a kid. I've never felt endanger. And he's never. It never affected me in the way that it stopped me yet. You may think. I'm not induce guy again auburn. I wasn't gonna play. It sounds to me like you've built in mechanisms where there we don't accept it in whenever gonna make sense and we want to eradicate it but you in. Why did you just look at the positive. It say what you'll You have no power over that it's just high year effectively. Deal a move on nothing. That's really admirable to do that. My my thing is well. I need to bring my children up in a way. So i need to make sure that i i bring them up in the values and the things i used to use when i was younger. That which i wasn't racist was just very ignorant ole. There were things that you know. Discriminate rewards while group at school. That would just normal and a look back now. And i think we'll we use that right okay with somebody. Educate me and told me about that. I because the last thing i would want her to have done was disclosed offense to anybody in that way. Nothing educations big. That's why i will go to show racing red card. Events at halftime lows kicked out because educated next generation is massive and sunni starts at home with my own children people close to me so your disappointment people to that But again if ever i can if someone says some real racist way and i can have that time with them. Sit down than i think. That is the best way to To help may change. I think in the spent twenty years in the service and sometimes when i saw i never saw racism within the service dove show racism. I on the streets and there was there was it to me was just kind of particularly kids. It was died. Been told that i didn't really understand. It didn't really get it. And i think boy do doing what you do. And that's what we do is a place office in trying to get in to understand what what did she say there. And do you understand what that means. You know and you to get puzzled. Look on their face. So i think you're absolutely right. I think not approach. I love it because what they expect a reaction from you. I'm is what you'll give me something totally different. Which i think is the gripe. Why daily made it a really day. Ns oh arafat. Had the most success. Because i do know what it's like. Sometimes when say is definitely till because i remember just been Must've been bravo was still upset. Primary school led the attack me with a year of him. So i must be careful. Miss boise is six Difference is telling me the white people batman black people in nation now so mayan which my mom told me was like so if so if mike your bad color why do you guys gone on holiday than trying to get time. You know that would be myself event. Soon as a kitten people use folks time and all this stuff. And i light my color. So you know. I don't think anyone's better than anyone. Because of that. That would be my soul vance's and he said i will white people betting a black people on the fastest runners. A black i would say linford. Christie's the fastest runner. He's black. so why why you know i. I'm happy why am so anyway anyway. So this kid who was likely not so. My answer was willow. You'll remember saying you're older than me. Beat you in the race. May whoa will remember it now. I said so. I'll show you on a runner than you. Even though you'll white on the run of the and i remember it now so by the victoria hospital in midfield so we've raised all the way up to the top absolutely walked in not problem. Put moco on walking away. His parents there okay so his parents and some of the parents there and as i'm walking away my legs got from underneath me. You black issued the n. Word this and that and you boot boot main kicking me and look a big cocaine. Mona kobdo bravo pushed him and then jumped up and he didn't catch me. Probably that parents didn't said would didn't say a word right so he's attacked me because of my color because of be running as you said that's cool no problem. You've attacked a black kid. Not a problem. So i get home at selma moves out to Mum's buffet but what she say. My son should not be attacked for the color of the skin will for having running race is not normal. it's no and they. Is those kids. Terrorize me for a long time. So i remember and i can. I can remember his name. So i was in mitchell. I'm six five now sixteen in a big stone. Just got promoted at millennium stadium. I mean look showed him a boy's gusto sima boys from back in the day always so having a couple of drinks of what. Harto season hunters drop foul-caller season having a couple of drinks. So we'll cut the kid bob shovel night Over food and chips amid latte came up to me and he's always maze. Jim ever made from school. I went to school with his boy. Bahrain journey just played on the tennis said. Yeah her will be loss on. Never ever forget you unless it's in your so-so anywhere remember anyone. Let me play football. 'cause by member when we had that running race and you kick malek's from underneath me and stop me because mccullough always make this this and every time used to walk because you used to live in davos phase Through shot the window. You could the paki The n. word and he called me black. This and that you will chase me enjoying to surround a pitch and set traps for me if a won't tones after walk all the way round down showbiz lane and he was like a look. Thank you so much. It was very proud moment for glad you remember me. I said but i will never forget racism. Alison by the way you know and i know if i wanted it Quite easily get my own back now. Foolish So thank you very much and have a good night your friends. He did not know what to do. I was so calm among your estimate. David david a top of late. Trailed by lead a kebab shop based on the to be allow comments Still to this day. And i can still remember that guy. So he's quality is just the best way to respond to that because again you know. The guy was heightened about them. Because you fight him is not On the big office just ridiculous but hopefully he is now a different person as well. I wanted to make sure that he knew the. I can still remember those words and the way he treated me in a way he made me feel the fear. Sometimes affair Expense you when you get in chased and you've got all these older kids after you and the only thing you've done is be black like you've not said a word is walking along mind your own business. While it's it's the feeling is horrendous. Not like he doesn't stupidity of knock him run or if frozen snowballs Mean sesame she literally walk in mind your own business buying light up just just for no of a reason crazy crazy situation but again a lot. We said the lobby probably is learned behavior from generations radio of a family members that can just pass on and they don't really understand it and he leads onto my next question really of a big question. But how'd you think we gotta Eradicating you've already talked about some of the dating but how can we arrive. Katie how do we stop it will. Football needs to stop lip service and all the players wanna put a a black symbol on social media. Will this now boycotts. okay women. The european super league going happen. Look the outcry look stopped within days. Unbelievable if you want to do the same do the same about racism. Bull oldies plays an all. Say there's so many you know it doesn't have to be black praised by the way the so many plays the want to say that. But do they really. When i used to go to show racial event rokkasho racism. The red card events kick out events even been retired for years. I don't carry the same thing as when i'm play replace. Turner comb place. No tunnel it. Wear a t shirt and this and that and they say if he was give time going into schools and when play is found guilty of racism. More people on on social media workshops or give you time so play. She'd have to not pay a fine gael banned. She gonna give it time and going go into any city area this in that beer and then talk about the word Know what it's like when you're nine year old like me. Who caught play. You get chased home. Feel that feel that that that that that what prejudice. She's like so education is key hate when course raisin from all different angles. But the so much lower. I'm adopted by white people. Some good why in my life so really winds me up when it like become you know becomes an attack some white people because there's lots of white people make a real difference any Huts because my parents have both y. They've seen the hurt. They causes me. Trust me head have as much as it hit me out. Probably hit will. Because you don't want that so exhibitors. Lots of things. I think people to keep educating when we do coaching badges. I still. I'm gonna coaching by her. While never ever did we do. On any of my. Coaching badges a workshop. Racism never yet manages will say things will use expressions expressionistic that and then they'll get a slap on the wrist. If you've done that training in of your budget diversity. Training as part of a by players should have to do every three years. If you even on your passport if you move around training should be in workplace If you haven't been three years done except for example i lead. i got told not to use. It would nitty gritty that suppression. I still. I didn't realize i just meant going into real detail but have been told that can be offensive because that was the expression you show that what was left behind after the slave ships were emptied. The i didn't know that. So why would use the expression but it wouldn't mean to. Does that make sense of. Actually i would never think a million but that's what everybody said. I would never ever use that to me now. But that's what the numeral woods but that's not that's ignorance. Does that make it my at a nanny thing so i think you've got to educate people talk to people do that so i think more training needs to be compulsory and then the social platforms are horrendous and they've got to be more accountability or every young prior i know wants a blue take so if you wanna give up. You won't have the things you want. The rights abuses platforms has to be some accountability. The people can get back to you because it's just it's it's awful not don't be on there if you don't to be raised. A byu watt. that's not right so may be set up in nova platform where these are the criteria. If you want be a spot for this criteria you can only use it if you use this that. No they said they make the money out the anonymity Social media got massive things unserviceable. I think social may apply party mattino. Nothing is something that we really do need to look at. I think the point while the by footballers the remember where they came from people are you and you all wraps leroy go screaming on when i already abused if they're not prepared to put something back because they all models and people do look up to them so i think it's really important. I give it back because they will argue once a nine year. Old kid getting into a team Going through kademi process in a lot of casey's give it back you know it doesn't take a lot. I think it goes a long white. Isn't it time is massive because young kid just looks and all i wanted to be. Light was never south for first because he kept the ball out. Man i love the way played in all this. He's my hero. And i wanted to play for everton at the time than look at my style but soon as i could see shock as david james Been me every day. Said i'd hang on that word light. It was made the best thing ever. So if if you've got you know wool strike going into hams and saying no you don't use these words you don't use this you don't use that because it causes off and if people back home using it lie. I know they've. my kids. Came back to me when that devastating. When you say that will you do this. You know that that's wrong. I'm not being like that. That would resonate with me so much. I think if they were told by a hero das- that's what happens than anything elected. You know if you've got these plays in the restroom go to few schools. It's not lows in those at that time but Feel old invite schools into the clubs. If you want and put workshops on like they used to do. And and that's it so i don't know why the players don't give much time but that that i still feel that would have succeeded but are absolutely. I'm coming towards the end of the one of the questions. I always ask megacity. Israeli think you want us to cover that we probably haven't released today I think that you know if talks about having a lot of talk about life really But like the what role models can do positive role models in the senate. He look involved in everybody's life way you end up and think no one's had a perfect life and i think he's got to be living in the moment sometimes. Good not to project to plan talks about radian and just to tap into the right people and try and try and make a difference put them of enjoyed. It enjoyed the conversation. It's been a nice jazz being reminiscent thinking about some good time. Some great people were saying that of Been set. Football has been a pod days and i think for boys amazing vinke gives so much joy. lockdown probably make people really really reflect on what matters and there is no football without a fans fans are amazing and the power that football can have on people's lives in the basque gaping passion. For now so yeah. I think it's a game that i love is giving me so much but i really feel that point now where it's been token talk about racism in changing things in in prejudice. I really really feel this topics. Been prevalent for a long long time. So like yet my. It'd be more of a cooler than not that we haven't picked up on. Would say that is the course. Can everybody who listen to this canadian. Play that pine in any way of making a difference in just making life as equal as possible and now be the message that i hope comes out on. A famous is a really really good podcast with yeah very of got a nice balance in that but he s got serious message behind it. Thanks mark i really appreciate that. You've right absolutely brilliant points. One of the reasons i wanted you on the podcast because a wanna give people hope in and get your really important views and i think someone not year. I'm not just saying this. But unique credible human being and you give a lot back and a one people article on this podcast is show people why you've clearly do not today so just a big. Thank you from me. I'm to give time and to really share those really intimate views that i think will really resonate repulsive thank you very much in welcome thank you thank you. Thank you thank you. Thank you listeners. On the the podcast today we really appreciate your support with these really important projects. Please like rights and subscribe to the community podcast. We really do want to get permission across many people as possible so you friends colleagues and we will catch on the next episode mcmurray easing incredible human being such a lovely lovely person so open so on the east and really stands up for what he thinks royce and the way that he has doubts with racism towards himself over a number of years. Should be commended. And i know matt will continue to do as much work as he can to help us. 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From the Podium - Chiefs OC Eric Bieniemy, Frank Clark and more

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From the Podium - Chiefs OC Eric Bieniemy, Frank Clark and more

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Hello and welcome to another edition of the Arrowhead Pride Podcast, we call from the podium where you get to hear directly from your Kansas City chiefs. My name is Pete Sweeney I me editor in chief of Arrowhead Pride Dot Com as promised. It's a jam packed from the podium they lot of zoom press conferences nine to be exact. If you WANNA check our description, it'll have exact time stamps of when you can find these interviews but I'm going to read the order for you right now. Offensive Coordinator Eric be enemy defensive. Lineman. Frank Clark cornerback Rashad Fenton was a quick break then we'll hear from special teams coordinator Dave Toe Punter Tommy Townsend quarterbacks coach Mike Kafka our second break will happen. Then we'll hear from wide receivers coach Gregg Lewis Defensive Backs, coach, Sam, Madison and finally linebackers coach Matt House again check the description. If you want to hear from an exact coach right now, we're going to start with the chief offensive coordinator. Here's the enemy to a good morning. Good Morning. We've had some guys competing asses off training camp. It's been a great ride so far. We've asked him guys come off off of injuries and contribute got a few players down but you know what we understand hey, next man is up. It's been a very competitive can't guys are having fun and I'm just enjoying the energy and the competition between both units spend a lot of fun to be a part of and there's just been fun to watch. So with that said fellows inequalities to start. Let's go to Steve Waugh Steve. A. Good how're you doing st not to yesterday coast to Coast Madison share with us the Andy always allows his players have open dialog even more. So now everything going on in the country being a former player. How much have you share with some of the guys of your experiences not only being black athlete but also as a black man on and off the field and also your thoughts on guys using their platforms, bring awareness to social injustices in this country. First of all coach read has been the same ever since I've known him. Since plan for him in Nineteen, Ninety nine, he was always that way he wanted guys to allow. He wanted to allow guys let their personality show. He wanted the true man to sit there and shine if you had something on his heart known as mine one thing what players they've done a hell of a job of just expressing one. Another have an open dialogue and I'm very proud of the fact of what we're doing. It's about time that we start having voter registration about Kudos to. Pat Kudos to tire you know about having a back of the organization were Clark Mark Donovan also with vh you know just a testament to the environment that we have and like I said the chemistry here and you guys have heard me say this before it's a unique situation because the guys like each other we may not always agree but you know what? They find a way to respect one another in come together with the decision that's going to be best for the Organization for US moving forward. It's Pete Swing. Coach I. I was curious about Clyde, Edwards Alaria we know a lot about the team returning so many guys. But when it comes to Clyde, a big obstacle to getting on the field earliest pass protection, you guys feel confident and where he's at their now within two weeks to go into the regular season that it's GonNa be okay to to protect patent. Oh Yeah. In fact I say this dealing has done a hell of a job and I'll tell you what he has a great room of people to work with. Okay. So Clyde is not only received some coaching from from dealing he's also received some coaching from Nevada and WHO's been helping him out tremendously, and then on top of that, you know we got a bunch of boxes as played a little while. So young there are ways has been outstanding in helping him with his technique and just teaching him all the calls and the things he should expect versus coverages starting at he see so. Am I go say he's perfect. Now he's not perfect but I've enjoyed watching the progress that he has made each and every day. Then when you got a kid that can explain to you why he made a mistake that's when you know he's getting it. So he's doing a heck of a job. You know I know he's going to do everything under the sun to help us to do better than what we need to, but also to he. The importance. If you don't protect that quarterback, you can't play. Darren? Smith. Good. there. Hey Thank you so much coaching. Glad. Man doing good doing battle over look forward to seeing you again real soon kind of following up on what Steve has a little bit about what we're asking you know how how has it been on question? How has it been trying to You know see the players in I guess in the live atmospheres prejudice. And then what you're seeing in training camp knowing that you're not going to get a preseason game and how you make your decision out who makes the final cut, and then also of course you know looking back of course you you are a black man is that part is obvious but there are NFL players who have talked about possibly boycotting the first game of see. Now I don't know if the kids are GonNa go to that extent but if the players decide to take, will you as an individual as a chiefs coach along with your with your? Colleagues. Taking the with them. So I ask you a question about training camp. I guys have done a heck of a job. It's been spent a little different due to the times we're living in with the pandemic and everything but the thing that I guys have done a heck of a job love just improvising and adapting one thing that we've learned here together Lee together collectively as a staff is remain flexible as one thing that you have to be when you coaching would were coterie but also to our players have remain flexible and they've been poised under pressure and they've adapted to the schedule and they've caught on. A David. Sale they've been working their tails off I. Say it hasn't been perfect. There's no such thing as. One thing that we always want to do, we want to strive for perfection in order to achieve excellence and I think guys have the focus and the mindset to do it the right way, and we've got plenty of vets who guidance and leanness now. Talking about what's going on in the world I mean, there's a lot. You know I'm fifty years old this year I've seen a lot I've been around a lot but here's the thing that I love that I guys doing a great job of there's nothing that gets me more excited than watching what pat entire have done. What voters registration deal I mean that is as outstanding at is huge at a huge step. In the right direction, we got players don't eight money. In the black community making sure that not only the the finances can make a change but also be in there. Okay. We got a number of guys who understand the difference between what's right and what's wrong and I'm GonNa say this again. Okay. A bunch of guys on his team that like each other they care about one another, we have a great culture and it starts from the top. Starts with a great owner Clark Hunt. Okay, and it just trickles down it trickles down the mark Donovan giving guys voice. Okay. It also trickles down to Brett vh in the things that he does making sure that these guys are confident in ashes and what they're doing and what they're saying. But also to you know more pointedly it's with coach read allowing these guys to allow their personalities to show and understanding that regardless of what decisions that we're. GonNa, we're GONNA make them together. Those guys are GonNa Take Care, and we're going to support our players one hundred and twenty percent in everything that they do. We've got three hands up. Let's go right down the line Herbie Ataman the nate's go ahead Herbie. Pleasure who you're well. You mentioned. You mentioned the you mentioned the cooled environment and you know. To here how surprise are you or how pleased are you that you are able? To, get to this point where you are one day away from wrapping training camp and then on the training camp. Well. Players jumped out to you in the surprise you on offense. Well. So to go back to the covert, let's spend a long season. It's been a challenging off-season. It's been one that you know. I. Mean Been Challenging Not only to us here as Kansas, city chiefs, but it's also been challenging to everybody that's experienced in this in this country and we wanted to be very sensitive to everybody's issues and what's taking place Yes it has been tough. It's been tough with the families. You know what the thing that I'm proud of is that the organization is finding ways to do it the right way for us to provide a way you know I think what we're doing is is a great example for for many others to do around the country and to be here. And a have an opportunity to do what we love I. think that's just a blessing you know and just the accountability so far. So good everybody has been doing the right thing making sure that they're staying out of harm's way because everybody has different issues that they may have to have to deal with that just goes to show you the love and the trust that we have from top to bottom k., and then just talking about what the players were training camp. These guys are working tails off you know I know you guys have heard me yelling being loud and vocal yelling all positive good things and. Being very supportive but these guys have worked their tails off and I'm proud of them and we're less than two weeks away from Game Day I couldn't ask under the circumstances for guys to come out and do a better job than what they have. Now we'll continue to work we'll continue chopping wood we all continue grinding on these guys because when it's all said and done, would we wanna be at our best when we kick this thing off and less than two weeks on Thursday night? It's GonNa. Adam. Tyson. got. Adam. Eric, how you doing today? Adam how you doing good. Yeah. We've heard yelling once or twice turn practice Oh don't worry about it. We came through loud and clear. A couple of things for you just wondering with all the unusualness of this season does this felt like camp to you number one and number two on WanNa go back something you said about, Edwards earlier you said that Paraphrase and a little bit he said. He can tell you at the end of a play maybe something he did wrong on that particular place, you can give us an example or two of maybe something that he where he did that. So. Talking about camp has it felt like that. Now it's felt different. It was an it was an adjustment to start with especially with the rams face and you guys gotta understand what creatures have had. We've done it one way here. Since I've been here and then you guys got Understan- Every organization primarily that I've worked under comes from this background and so when you're used to doing it a certain way, sometimes change is hard and with everything with the schedule and how it all worked out. It was challenging not just for the players, but it was challenging for coaches making sure we get. Schedules right. Making sure that we keep in our guys involve and understanding that, hey, they have to remain flexible schedule. So it's been great because it's helped us to grow. It's helped us just like I say it's helped us to remain flexible through it all and to learn how to improvise and adjust as we know things happen in life you got to be to. Navigate your way through that course when things ain't just such a straight narrow but Your next question here about Clyde The thing that's important. You know when you're talking to because certain times technique, he'll go in there and not utilized the the the proper technique and that's not what I'm talking about. It's more about, hey, understanding what did the quarterback witted pat tell you what did the Senate communicate? What did the defensive front tell you what did the rotation in the secondary tell you and so he's starting to see all the net and that's when you know. Okay you know what he's starting. To get it. You know I'm watching them have conversations with those guys. I'm here in a conversation in the answers that feedback that he's given to me, and the important thing is not only is he talking to me but I can him talking to Sherm and talking to young when Daryl and those guys they got a nice chemistry and that's that's the thing that you want. You want those guys have an understanding on how to fix it and how to make it right doesn't always have to come from us. And that's the beauty of the environment that we have. We have a great culture. These guys are working their tails off they understand that hey, regardless of WHO's in there? Okay. We all got to be accountable and we all have to know exactly what we're doing and how to do it. Going to Taylor for the last one KGO eight. Eric I have got two topics for you. You may not know all thirty two owners obviously but but what do you think makes Clark such a model representation for the league should go in terms of ownership right now based the things that have gone on and secondly. Speaking of the voter registration if the chiefs are able to have early stadium, be a place for people to vote what emotions will that. Invoking you if you do see that come to fruition on election day. Gay. So. He asked the question about Clark I mean just look at the history. I may have a me when are you? Originally, AFL teams look at the names of the people that was drafted here. I mean a lot of those guys came from historical black colleges. A lot of those guys represent themselves. We have represented himself not only as excellent athletes on the field, but off to feel as a commendable citizens and they're in the hall of fame as well. So that says a lot not only okay about Clark but just the family that he's been. A part of and that's one thing that we appreciate the hunts understand exactly what has been going on in this world because they've seen it. All right. They've inherited right and I guarantee you will Lamar Hunt was alive blesses. So during a particular time, I'm sure he experienced a number things when he first started off with those particular players play for his NFL. So that's what Clark has and Clarke has lived through that and what better person to be a role model, and then as you talked about, you know trying to get the stadium here for for as a place where people could come and vote that would be. Just historical you know why? I just remember growing up as a as a young kid you know. When I turned eighteen. I do a few things I. To, go. I had to get a job I had to go to school I was going to join the service but on top of that, my mother told me Yo ass is going to vote okay. You are going to vote because we fought for this right I in how `bout that these guys have stood up. and Said Hey let's make this. Right. Let's make it where everybody can have an opportunity to come to the stadium and vote this is I'm proud of the people that we have in this building, but I'm also proud of the people that have provided the light in a way for them. So they can come out and be free to be who they are and and speak freely to the world about what's going on and making the change. Coach we appreciate your time today. Thank you. Thank you. You guys. Take care. Frank, how we doing man? I Don Goodman just want to ask this question of actually all the players You know a common term around you know any anywhere you see is a lot of black men said that they're exhausted. They're tired. My question to you is simply are you tired you tired of everything that you see in sports kind of provided a little bit of a distraction for you? Yes I am. I got I got a family I got kids man and they are you know they're going to be forced to learn about this stuff and I might to explain it to at some point in their life and that's the most difficult part because that's the most difficult part that I have to deal with. You'RE NOT GONNA only speak for myself is because I know one that might explain this they're going to ask and I got really explain it's a point where they understand and That's the most difficult part because a lot of this stuff is going to be hard to you know there's going to be hard to you know keep a ruined explain them because I wasn't educated like I should have been you know growing up on these things that was happening in times in the past you know Rodney King and stuff like that. But not just having to educate my kids on this stuff in you know literally have to you know. On the Internet is a world where everything is on the Internet. Now so they're going to be able to see it on the Internet and see you know not just was going on the day, but it ended up going on the last few years to be specific. So yeah. Let's go to nate nate. Good to see you man. Kind of following up on what herald just magician. A Lotta guys on this team. That's sort of acknowledged sort of the historical moment you guys are GonNa have to raise a banner on opening night what that means for the franchise. But also you're gonNA play the first major football game in the country since the Super Bowl I just wonder how much do guys understand this significance of what you guys are GonNa have in front of you less than two weeks from now. I. Mean. Some guys don't have to because you know must have played on opening night not I mean you're you know you got guys that's filling in roles in coming in plan in big games you know though is going to be a lot of pressure on them but to that I can say that you got just take it all in. You know you coming off a good season where we won a super. Bowl not not as good as we should've started this season. But on you know when you finish won the Super Bowl, takes away all the bat. But on, we just want to start strong. I feel like we came off last year on starting kind of slow off the success they had the year before. So and then myself coming in you know with everything distracts again, paid you knowledge stuff going on. With the injuries and stuff me starting slow me being a player who I am me non who I am you can't afford to star slow you know 'cause I know it can jeopardize my team and then what everybody else is just pushing our offense to get you know not letting them get complacent settlements you know that complacency thing and Dan for us. This is humbling ourselves understand that it's more work to do. You know we understand that we got a great offense but you know we wanna be even better defense. You know see some more flash to what happened. Towards the second half of that season, rather than you know the first half. McDowell going Sam. Frankly Salama. How you doing. I'm wondering just what sort of conversations you guys have had for us players as far as potential demonstrations or protests on opening night. Man Yeah It's it's too early for that. I. Feel I felt like I mean is it conversations of course but? It's been a lot of a lot of focus football to honestly We spent so much time away from this in dealing with this is that we're gonNA continue to do it. That's understand I. Understand you know to our country. I. If they think at another back man isn't going to get killed by police officer I. Feel like everyone is confused. You're not for like if we don't think that is gonNA happen again and continue to happen. Few is just at this point, we have to do something about it. and. Like you said it's just it's just we're going to be confused is this Is Crazy. Pete Sweeney. Be. Morning Frank to questions for you. First thing I was wondering you had a sickness at the beginning of camp and I know you had some issues with stomach last year and even dating back to Seattle I. I was just curious generally speaking how you're feeling and then number two now that you've been with two franchises and you can kind of compare the two after year. What's the best thing about being a Kansas City? Chief. Nothing like the competition a- practice just how hard we work and I've just I've been bartered mini football programs. You know what? I mean I many but you know college in High Level Program. Man. We worked so hard. We work Andy Reid. He's a Helluva coach and he pushes so hard every everyday as guys who who practiced through injuries and do things that they probably shouldn't do because you know in this all based off us not one at this point coach or us not one you know God there and not be have our teammates back and I feel like that's important when you got everybody bought in and everybody believing in each other, you know from top to bottom from the coaching staff, the front office all the way down to the players staff under US and Even. Genders and everybody just this all started to go in this all the same go and this all just aiming one and AFC championship. We've got three more. Let's go Darren Stephen Todd going there. Hey. Frank, how're you doing my brother Couple of things I don't think you really answer. Of course I know you've had like you said stomach issues what is the cause of that or you know and how to? Work on that and then the second part look I I. I gotta ask this because I am an all that others but you know you see cheese fans of course they cheer you on when you're you know winning and you're leading Yuli Organization to a Super Bowl and they want you to Kinda like Lebron James Shut up and dribble but you know. But when you. But when you decided to take a stand you know and and you you speak out black lives. Matter and you and you're you know you're doing what you're doing, what the voter registration what you do with with the four day we talked about a few weeks ago. What would you say cheese fans who who, who, who, just want you to stick to football and and and not do audits quote unquote political stuff as though you're like you're on like you wanted to do it but it's being thrust upon. I just says it's a place for everybody mind and sometimes this guy staying you place, you know everybody don't have the platform to do what we do. You know everyone doesn't have that that platform that can reach most people and new two things that we do. So I just felt like that you know you just gotTa stay places certain things Matthew a fan of the game, you a fan of the game. The Fan of the person. Fan of that person's personal preference to. Aside I. Would movement or what's politically you know I feel that's a lot of people's problem because they feel they still too strong about how another person feels and they should really be worried about their own business but I'm on my on my on my. Thing with the injury of is just Yeah, it was. It was frustrated because my stomach man is You know you I, have surgery a few years ago and Just. Battling through a lot of people know of course I. Don't I'm not. I'm not about to go around 'til nearby my stomach hurt us on said. I'm sick all this stuff man but you know I, it just takes a lot. Outta me this. Physically, it takes a lot out of me when my stomach star act by episodes basically it's like I have real bad acid. So when acid is a Food that has asked and stuff like that. That nature just build a and I gotta take my acid blockers and stuff like that and my my pills in all these different things and I gotta Eat Leiderman I gotta hydrate and duties things more. So it's just kind of one those things when I when you get of course when you get out in can't. Go from being at home all day to you know all of a sudden we out there bussing our ask you know eventually things like that are going have on. Sometimes you know my dehydration is different from the average persons dehydrate I give you hydrate amount might need a hospital because I'm needing some IV. On the I need the right fluid. And things like that so Just. Men of the past that honestly I got past that and I had little. Every once in a while the last one I had before then was before what the Patriots game so I just had little episodes every once in a while if I don't got my right medication but. We got all that under control. Staff up here you know they do an excellent job with taking care of me man in hats off to rick and his staff up here. Oh, Julie. Too. That's my dog. She hold it down but They they did a hell of a job or just making sure you is good getting you back out there. You know non I'm rolling getting my feet up. And I'm ready to go onto the season. At the last two. Let's go stephen and todd going Steve. So. What you breath not much man You said you you have to worry about your your stomach You also have to worry about explain to your kids what's going on today's society. Not, only that it Kobe's still out there training camp. Just the racial issues in most recently Kenosha Kenosha Wisconsin. Yes. So just how hard is it as a black athlete? For you to go out there and focus on what you need to focus on the field as you prepare for Thursday night football game. I mean, it's hard because all they want us to do is play football anyway you know what I mean but. Today I'm. You know you have a job and you have to. Ensure duty to. You have a contract and you have a job and a job and you have a contract, you know should job. To finish that. So whatever pertains to if they tell you gotta be somewhere they take, I, do some you've got to do it. The frustrating part is when you want to speak out about certain thing or you want to use your voice your platform to speak out about certain things and you don't have the courage to because of you know House on Internet organization maybe we're in or how you may. Feel you know so it's Kinda hard. But like I said when you can take small groups that you can take your people who who, who can reach certain other groups do not I mean you can educate your children you can educate you the people who might not understand your homeboy in the hood who might not be watching TV or understand what's really going on. You gotta understand I mean you can You can make them understand it a little better from. Your point of view on the level of which you are. You know I think that's where you start us controlling what you can control ness the person next to you know. For the last one, it's A frank, you've been in a league long enough and a couple of different organizations here. Do you think the the League is in a better place as far as the social justice issues go than it was when you first got into it have you seen any progress last year's and are are you hopeful for the future? You see you see actions, people doing things and try to do things and. see protests seem peaceful protests. You seem every different type of protests you can see, but it still hasn't been changed I felt like that society is going to be hard to see change when you know to action to start in the. Lead up into a doesn't change. You got a lot of laws in place that protect certain groups individuals but at the end of the day like I said before. You can control got to do more to. Frank, we appreciate your time today. Thank you. I appreciate. Thank you. Sean, how you doing today and? What about you so good. Thank you. just wondering what parts of your game you feel come a long way since maybe. Last season you feel like there's some areas, your game that you've really worked on and try to improve and and it showed up here in camp. of course just. Letting the defense, get a better grasp better defense and how everything is flowing, not just my parts but also the the other players on the field with. Let's go to hell couldn't go herald. EERSHAD, I'm going to ask the same question to pretty much every player today obviously in light of everything that's been going on with the not only. Jacob. Blake shooting everyone that's happened in the last you know hundreds of years of society obviously. There's a Commun- expression around at everyone says that I'm exhausted I'm. Tired. Tired of. You you you know you. To Tie you know what I mean. Just. The fact that that can be my father that can be my uncle that can be me. What means so just putting that that that into perspective of treat everyone equal manit on the why. So how was discussion now to give treated affairs? SCURVY Herbie GOP. It was shot. Hope you're well. You saw some action on defense last year you saw some action on special teams I. Think you played like thirty percent of special teams snaps fast you're you're probably in line to see a lot of action the start the year with the shop Greeland suspension. How do you feel your time on special teams helps you as you prepare to probably assume bigger ruled this year. SP-, special teams helped me get my. It helped me fill out the energy. It just helps me a defense wise and you gotTa start the game off and finish the game with special teams so. That being on that don't that special team, your special, and it just helps me. Like I, don't know just bring out more few after you at the done did a special teams replicas did anything special teams was is great. Todd libra good. You're a younger player in the League. When you were in college and this the demonstrations and things for star the National Football League with Colin Kaepernick, what were your thoughts about that as a young player and how much have you kind of moved through evolving your thoughts on those things as you become a pro you? What do you think's GonNa Happen when you guys hit the field on that Thursday night against Texas I am young player who Mika was was demonstrating type of things. I was an University of South Carolina and it was some things going on there as well. They still had the confederate flag at the State House when I was a freshman at. Carolina. So it was a real Alpina I'm coming from Miami Florida wears a real diverse places. The melting pot everyone treats each other equally there and that's how was born and raised on. Down there is is hard to point fingers at anyone because your parents wasn't wasn't even born here. You know what I mean. So it is. This is this. Goes to say. On. Whatever you WANNA represents a free country man I can't hate one man for being different than me or demonstrate anything different. If that's what you feel you need to express your cellphone as a man, you should be able to do so without any judgment and as go a long way on and just the go with us I'm I feel I team is built on I. It's a unity. We are a brotherhood and everything we can strong with what's going on in society. So I feel like everything just goes smoothly it won't be too much of a a chaos here I don't think we will have the same vision you. We've got time for two more quick guys. Let's go pete and Sam go ahead beat. Morning Rashad we had an opportunity to talk to Sam Madison yesterday and he said that coming into camp, you knew that you'd be more of a dual guy inside outside you played a lot of inside last year you're going to be a critical part of this team considering you're doing both things just how has that gone this training camp? What's made? You feel confident that you'll be able to pull that off going into the regular season. I is going to my coaches prepared me for this moment I mean, don't get me wrong off season why the? Of course I had to take things into my hand off season but just eyelash your with my numbers God I'm going do my job well done from Miami Florida. Unprepared for for whatever the coaches have For me. On, we're going to be caught I'm be ready to do it to the best of my ability. That's all I can do. To Santa Claus One Sam Shot just to build off of what Pete just asked yet. But he played a lot of slot cornerback last last year where the different challenges applying inside compared to you know I know you plan on outside in. College. You just mess with different receive with different frames on got to be more cautious. Of course when you're cornerback split some just. Will Ball Hashes on. This is more. So just understanding the game on a different level when you corner and of course, if you inside, you gotTa whereby run game and etc.. Just those little experts just gotTa be more cautious about when you're. Rashad we appreciate the time today my friend. Thank you. Appreciate Sports betting dime dot, com, provided the coverage fans need to with confidence every time find the best odds track key trends and make smarter bets on all your favorite sports up your edge with tools that make it easy to find. The biggest moneymakers can get detailed matchup analysis and score predictions for every game. Check it out. It's sports betting dime DOT com. Welcome back to a rather long edition of from the podium we continue on with chief special teams coordinator Dave Dope. Doing here. I know when when you guys make Rosser decisions this time of year in the next week or so that. Goes into that but how much? Of that factor preseason games what you see on film preseason games in a typical year. Really. You know when we had preseason games that was a big factor especially on specialty because that was the only time that we really went live and so somebody tackler block live. But now we have to make decisions off a practice like I said last week and we meet every night as a staff and we go over each guy we evaluate each guy, we put grades on them. And you know and we're really really I mean obviously doing looking at practice and that's all we really can do and you know everybody's in there but here's where each guy says. So we know where everybody stands. Let's go to hurry hurry. Coach along those same lines what what Sanders asked the fifth or sixth wide receiver position often comes down to their ability to contribute on special teams. What specific traits do you look for in order before determined they're pulling away from the rest of the pack. What we're looking for guys like pringle. Guys like camp guys like Peter. I mean we are so fortunate are wide receiver crew and cores is really really really good on special teams I mean. All the way down the line from from Damarcus on down so It's it's a solid group. You know I, Love McCall I, mean, I love all those guys. The only guy we really don't use as is fourteen. You know I mean besides that everybody has a role on special teams and and every one of them is it brings up to the table. Let's go to Saran. Goodson. Coach around the League. Number of teams choosing not to practice today coach we talked about the conversation that was had yesterday I'm just curious and you know what the tone was whether or not. There was a conversation today what your personal opinion is a modern teams not practicing. Well. I mean, I really feel for what's going on I mean it's a shame that you know we're still dealing with this that's really how I feel about it. But you know our our team is a solid group. They love each other we talk all the time. I. Think Coach really has a great handle on the whole situation. you know he talks with the leaders of our team and. And if some said, you know behind closed doors, I don't hear about everything that goes on you know. But I know there's a Lotta great conversations going on within our football team right now. Pete Sweeney. God beat. Coach thanks for taking some time. I have just two things I was wondering if you could provide some insight on on what you're seeing right now at the governor position and then I was just curious about what Rodney clements pick could potentially bring to the table. The positions looking pretty good i. mean we we have some good solid depth there. We brought a Antonio Hamilton in from the giants who? Probably was the giants number one gunner Last year, we put the tape on, he made a lot of plays for men. We're really happy to add him know to the mix. So right now I I probably say a Antonio is in the lead with with pringle obviously pringle was gonNA roll year last year, and then we have a number guys behind by them I mean can't he was he was starting gunner for us and and he's really looking really looking good this this all season coming coming off his knee injury he's looking good and. Other guys that can play Robinson COMPLA- it. And complaint I mean there's a there's a number of guys a complete goner for us in in some of these guys are good to you know the you know the needs of the world and Bobby keys I mean they're all Contributors and they're all GONNA help us this year. Time for. Go Adam and then nate go at them. Hey Dave how you doing today. Good Hey just along the lines of what we've been talking about here. Do you have a feel for some of the your younger guys on what you have you mentioned snead a little bit but I was wondering about snead a Willie Gay Darius Harris those kind of guys. Feel for what what you're GONNA get auto them when the season starts. I mean, that's a great question I mean because I mean really you see you see what's going on in practice and you see good things. But when when is live bullets just not going to know until we get in there and play you know I know there's going to be a period of a learning that go on in the first two games with these young players. because. You can't match the speed that you're going to get. An all you can do is talk about it every day we talk about it every day when we watch we watch. Regular, season tapes. So they can see how fast it is, but it's hard to mimic that in practice. So a lot of these guys are going to have to learn on the run and. I think we're in a good position right now we're getting a lot of practice in. We're getting plenty of time to work on things We just we just hope that you know if they do make a mistake, it's not a huge one. But everybody will make a mistake and You know we just move on and don't don't make the same mistake twice I mean that's what we try to do on special teams. Let's go to nate. Taylor finish off at night. Dave. Thanks again. I know you mentioned earlier sort of the discussion going on with the team in relation to everything that's happening in the country another other choose obviously not pricing today, I. I, just wanted to follow that in as you could give perhaps an example that. SORT. Of the unity and sort of the conversation between players and coaches as you guys move closer to opening night considering that you guys are to away now from that being of not being the case about how you want to move forward. I just know more teams close. You know and I know I know we you know. We talk about everything I mean nothing nothing's really. kept kept a secret. You know I mean we. Coach reads one winning sets the table for that you know he he says the table in meetings and. When you know when we're behind closed doors and without talking about everything that we do there I'm just I'm just letting you know that it's an open conversation and everybody. Is Free to say what they want to say. Culture we appreciate the time today. Thank you. Okay. Take care. Morning Tommy Web and talk to you in a a longtime just generally speaking wide net here. How has training camp gone and what makes you think you're ready for your first professional opportunity here A training training camps been awesome. So I mean, it's super exciting I mean it's my. Mind my rookie season, a rookie training camp and. Obviously it's not how I would've expected my rookie training camp go as far as you know like the the Cova precautions and stuff like that but you know. Our south and doing a great job of. Keeping US socially distance and keeping everybody safe. But beyond no training canceling going great and you know I'm really excited to get going to the season. Go to Todd Leo. Tommy been asking a lot of questions of players about the social justice issues. You've probably got a unique perspective is white guy was a young guy who hasn't hasn't been in the league. What sort of conversations been like we heard coach Madison say a lot of conversations run lunch tables and stuff you guys are all having. What have you learn what have you kind of people about Europe bringing and and kind of you know getting along with everyone? Has it been eye-opening for you yet definitely know the biggest thing for me I think is just listening and learning from a for my teammates. You know it's it's always good to step back and learn. and. I think that's that's something that's been happening a lot. You know recently and our our vets and team leaders have been doing a great job of you know bringing awareness in doing everything we can to to start moving forward and create change. So you know that's something I'm looking forward to just keeping this the discussions going and just continuing to Larne. Harold Harold. It's I'm hope you're doing woman My question is pretty much the same question. I've been asking a very player and that is you know you see the news it's hard to kind of stay off the social media Stuff that's happened with George Floyd Jacob Blake and Everything that's happened last four or five years. A common expression, a lot people uses how tired air how exhausted they are. Tired of you and how exhausted our you've seen all this in the Will you know this is this is something that's very new to me in. It's something that is you know a lot of light being shed on it now So I mean I think it's it's definitely something that it's it's sparking inside me. That's making me. WanNa go forward and create change in and do what I can to help out A lot of stuff going on. It's just it is tire aiming even the short period of time that I've really been seeing on social media. It's it's exhausting to see in. You know I I hate CNN I. Hate. Seeing how it affects my teammates and how it affects their families and You know it's obviously not right and it's You know something that's we gotta do better on. We gotta change. Dow Going Sam. ITAMI from the outsider's perspective is seems like punish job making the transition from college fell doesn't really change all that much but you're living at right now what does change when you make this next up here you know the biggest thing is scheme You know in in college, we usually have spread ponts but you know we were using the profile of pro punt formation. So it's it's just a bit different I mean I'm I'm used to having shields in a couple alignment is blockers. You know seven yards in front of me announced a little bit more open on. In also just the speed of the game you know everybody in the NFL super talented in you know the great players play hard so So I think that's you know that's the biggest difference is just you know talent all across the board it's just it's tremendous. So it's just a you know just just being ready in stain on my toes. Got Through Morris Adam Than Lynn go ahead. Tommy how you doing today in great you good. Thanks a couple of things real quick. First of all. You got here. Obviously that she said, Tar Newsom as well. What was it like when you heard that the chiefs of let him go and you're going to be the only guy left here in camp and number two claimed. Baltimore here in a few weeks if johnny sticks around, what's it to be like played against him for the first time I think right. Who Mom and dad gave you root for that day? Yeah. That's a good question Take. A couple of steps back to answer your first question I. Mean nothing really changes for me. I mean, I'm still preparing the same way. I'm still You know all my toes just trying to go out and perform the best I can just keep getting better every single day You know since like I said earlier, the NFL's completely different You know I'm just trying to learn as much as I can as fast as I can and continuing to progress in In, in everything I can do whether it's putting her know holding with a working on my holding with with James in Harrison in. So yeah. Just just trying to continue to move forward there. But yeah, I don't know we'll see what happens when it comes to to Baltimore I. Mean, I'm definitely excited for that I. Mean we we had a little bit of a little bit of that. Back in a back in twenty fifteen, I want to Tennessee my freshman year in a we traveled down and we played out Florida. So we I got to play against Johnny then So so that was that was a cool experience, but you know I'm excited to see what happens it. It wouldn't be a bad thing if I saw him on the field but I can't say my parents would. Go for either. Of US I'm not sure I think they'd be. Split between them. Both they're both tremendously supportive. So Hano, dad might be in one. Jersey might be the other who knows. Lynn Jennings the close out Atlan. Tommy Dave told talked to a couple of weeks ago about how you was on your you're on his radar during the combine, but he also talked about hose impressed with you working with James and Harrison how important has been for you to work with those guys and developing that relationship in in some of the things that you're benefiting from from James Harrison whiff you learn from most guys working with them. Yeah Yeah that that's been the biggest thing is just learning from them. You know they're they're both veterans in the NFL. Now they're both they've been superspy success will what they do So it's just yeah it's just sitting back and learning as much as I can when I can. I mean I talked to James Every day about what you know stuff that I can do differently when. ponting and same thing with talking to Harrison just trying to figure out what what I can do to. Help him out the most than a helping make make him the most successful kicker you know he can be So. Yeah. It's just you know it's it's a process of continuing to learn like I said as a rookie. So I'm excited to keep progressing and keep moving forward and you know take it into the season. Domino. We appreciate the time today. Thank you. Thanks. Appreciate it. Hey coach. Good to see you again. You've been working with Patrick since really the moment that you guys got the Kansas City. I'm curious in the film room. How have you seen him develop as someone that can evaluate evaluate sound, and is there any story that you can remember about an incident where Patrick saw something on film was able to apply it on the field? Yeah, that's a great question Pat. Pat Does a phenomenal job in the film room watching studying tape. Very, intricate details of of defenders enter indicators. A one one example that comes to mind was last year against Denver, they had brought one pressure. You know this, we were playing Denver late in late in the season they had brought pressure maybe. The early in the season and really it was only one time they had shown it and we had watched it. You know we'd watch throughout our blitz come up but them only bringing it at one time. Powell's able to diagnose nationally brought in a game I think we hit tyreek on the sideline one of them but he was able to at least see at co snap identify I get the ball out of his hands. And ended up being a big play. Big Dot conversation for us. Look Good A. Good. Morning Mike. I. Know a lot of folks outside the organization have kind of put a spotlight on. You is potentially being this. This next offensive coordinator candidate I I know that probably comes with a lot of flattery and yet you're honored for that I was just curious as you learn from Eric, the enemy and Co treed when you are able to finally get that opportunity what what type of things that have they shown you that will stick with you in that maybe he'll take on and when you get that chance. I think the most most important part is. The attention to details that coach me coach they bring to the offense. Really no detail is spared as far as what we WANNA do on offense from. The receiver room running back and tight ends quarterback. So it's very well thought out You know it sound to to the offense of mine and we put it into where we can give the quarterback answers and allow into play freely and Give. And kept ball carriers answers as well. You know. So we try to build that into the system and that's one thing I've learned since being here over the last several years. As being able to give the quarterback answers and give our skill players answers and within the offense. Threatened Petrograd Serene. Coach I'm curious what you know quarterbacks lose what what's what's the biggest loss they have 'em tickle your backup guys right. They're going to get a lot of the reps not having these preseason games. What's the part that becomes the most difficult to to either get them ready or to evaluate You know maybe a younger guy like town yeah. The the game, the game situations and being out there with the live bullets of is definitely the biggest part. For the It's everything's faster in the game, and so you really can't replicate that. To a certain extent practice, we try to whether it's drills or giving the quarterbacks. You know fast mental mental games and mental drills throughout practice to make them think fast and and shoot the ball fast. So you try and stimulate that as best you can throw practice. But at the other day one game game going and you know it's we're we're rolling on offense you gotta be able to make quick decisions. So there's It's tough to replicate and practice. Let's go or less to Nathan and Hervey coordinate. AM. I wanted to follow up with What Matt asked You earlier Being a former NFL quarterback understanding the awareness in the vision you have to have on the field whether it's watching film Patrick or this off season or just impersonal in live moments. Just what impresses you most about a Given, everything that's required from the quarterback position. Yeah I think I think Patrick's get to the point of the offense where he kind of knows. Whereas answers are he knows all the bones are buried on the play. So he's able to kind of anticipate the counter moves within the offense to where okay. If they're going to do that if defense does this. Kind of puts this play in a bind. Well, I know my answers to get out of it, and so I think that's where he's kind of grown the most from last year to this year and going going into this year really is really know where the bones are buried in the in the in the weak spots in the plays are. Go to hurry with the last one. Good. Hervey. Take him back to your playing career. You always had the opportunity around the likes of Tom Brady Adrian Peterson even J. Green Year stint Cincinnatian obviously, they're all mega superstar. You now have one in your own quarterback room and Patrick Mahomes what are some of the similarities for the mental makeup on on how they are able to handle The the spotlight hungry being a mega superstar. No I appreciate that question and to be fair I probably wasn't around those guys long enough to really give a great answer to speak on them personally but I think. The thing that pat brings is his competitive spirit is is is incredible He he I think he's he's able to lift and build up the guys that are in that huddle. Built himself up as well with confidence. I think that right there is Competitive Spirit of confidence spirit. That's that's what separates them, and that's what makes them great. I think. Let's face it. The weeks are feeling really really long right now, we could all use a little distraction. So listen to the distraction podcast. Hosted by former deadspin writers, drew mcgarry and David. Roth. The distraction is a new podcast about sports from defector and stitcher. Each week, the guys and their guests will break down what happened on and off the field whether it's NBA players getting testy on the court and Weird on Instagram were horrifying takes from sports talk radio that need to be eviscerated. Whatever the drama drew and Rothley ready to serve you the hot takes you need to stay distracted from well everything. Listening Subscribe to the distraction, a defector podcast right now on stitcher apple podcasts spotify or your favorite podcast APP. And while you're at it, head over DEFENDTHEM DOT COM to learn more about defector media and subscribe now for special prelaunch discounts. Welcome back into from the podium we're finishing up with some chiefs assistant coaches we continue want which wide receivers coach Gregg Lewis. I wanted to ask you McCall Hartman when you guys departed for the off season. What kind of things did did you tell him that you wanted to see him in proven work on in the off season and how efficiently feel like he is not not that you've seen him in Training Camp I want him to work on just becoming bigger more explosive a obviously he was explosive last year, but he has more in them and just understanding all facets of the offense and he did a wonderful job this off season of doing those things and coming back prepared and ready to get to work. So I'm excited where he is right now and what was to come with. Go to peak twenty. GO AHEAD PETE Gordon coach. Curious about the system and I, know there is an emphasis put on learning each position in the offense and I like almost similar McColl how do you balance okay? We want you to learn every position but at the same time, really hone in on what might be something particular that you really want them to focus on. Well I it's a juggling act with all the receivers that are involved here. my big thing and we're coach preaches to me is make sure everybody knows every position because in a game situation, you never know who could go down and whatnot and we need to continue to put put guys in position to be successful. So understanding everything is big and then just technique wise. Just make sure everybody's on the same page and able to do the same things and some may be better than others, but we're able to get the job done with is out there. Let's go to Robert Winston go Robert. Coach, suppose Jodi Fortson is a guy that's had a great camp this year What do you think is the big difference was the biggest difference that you see between him last year and this year Understanding the offense jody came in as a tryout guy and we released them, and then he came back and this he was planning tied in any moved to receiver. So just really being able to focus on one position understanding what's going on with the offense at the receiver position that made it that's allowed him to play faster and play more physical and let his natural talents show and I think he done a tremendous job of that throughout this all season and of the through train camp does far He's a guy that that's a workaholic he wants to be great He's going to do everything possible to give yourself the best opportunity to be part of what we're doing. It's GonNa, threatened Petrograd in. Coach Sammy Watkins had a number of interviews during this off season and one of the things he said was the coaches want me to get a thousand yards. I'll get a thousand yards right What what how do you take that? When you when you hear that comment from from one of your players? What what do you think he means by that? What? What was your reaction hearing? That nothing I didn't have a reaction to it whatsoever I'm around. All the guys a lot I, know their personalities I I know how they act how they react to different situations and Sammy's attained guy just like every other senior within the group is team oriented in Sammy's called upon he's ready to answer the bill. It's Tyreek is called upon ready to answer the Bill Sandwich Dean Rob Sam McCall and on down the line with everybody that we have. So everybody in the NFL all players want to have success. That's why we're here. We're competitive and they WANNA be shown that way but at the End of the day, we're all team here and that's our guys approach it, and that's what they believe in and that's what got us where we were last year and last year is last year obviously but we had the same mentality of whatever it takes was to be successful. That's what I'm willing to do, and you saw it in the first game last year Zandi three hundred yards, and then in the playoffs he's he's dominating Each playoff series are each playoff game that we had. So when his numbers called, he's ready to answer. To more let's go Natan Than Adam. Coordinate. Greg One guy that. I'm sure you were real Dec- in have gotten about a week. Now, to get to evaluate as markets KIP he appear to be on his way to make him a roster before injury Just what are you most appreciate s what he's done to get back in what I've seen so far in this year's Cannes. Will you personally I was devastated so to speak when when Kim got hurt last year because he's got his were consistently every day since he's been here and he was having a tremendous camp last year I believe he was on his way to make it a team like you said, getting them back. It's been awesome and it's been awesome. He he knows everything he's a guy that works and is not any questions about anything he's going to be diligent with everything you has to do any brings a special teams value unlike any other. So it's exciting to have them be a part of the room again, and we'll see where it goes from there. To with the last one. Good at him. And Greg wanted to ask you about tyreek and what's the next frontier for him what are there areas of his game you want to see him expand as opposed to maybe just general improvement from last year to this year? Well, I mean, he didn't get all the last year and he has some. And Whatnot, and now he has a full all season. So to speak, would would everybody else has and training camp going I think that he's right where he needs to be his mentality is continuing to get better and progress and dominate at a high level and I think he's doing that with his work ethic in the classroom and then in the. Training Room in the way room and then on the field, and it's all translated to positive place for him when he gets those opportunity so I'm excited to where he is I, see growth and development I've seen each and every year that we've been together, which is positive and I'm just looking forward to the next step for him developing and becoming. More of a dominant player. I was curious about Antonio Hamilton and now that you guys have been able to work with him for a few weeks, you see him more as an inside guy or an outside guy. Maybe a little bit of ball just was wondering evaluation. You know since two Hamilton has been here. He's very smart. You know we talked to a lot of people where where he came from the giants and just understanding that his his strong points but you know right now we're us limited in multiple roles. You know we use them on the inside we're using on the outside because he's had done both. In his career so you know just trying to find the best pieces to the puzzle the put out there on the football field. So we can win some games, but he's definitely going to have opportunity to be able to help us to in multiple positions and you know that was something the same thing that Kendall Fuller was able to do last year. Let's go to Steve All scored Steve. Hey coach. Steve. What's happening now? Much man. With everything that's going on. Wayne yesterday and today teams boycotting for change causing gangs be cancelled across sports and some NFL teams cancelling practice being a black coach Pro Sports with you to come in today and also have someone to conversations have been like within the last twenty four to forty eight hours. Yeah. You look at his team and you know just plan on the coach Ryman. I tip my hat off to coach. He really you know open up, you know the the locker room as well as the the coaching staff you know to be able to communicate about this issue and just seeing what in the NBA players don't around the National Football League just listening to our players, our leaders who who we have a number of guys on this roster that you know put their best foot forward. Over the last couple of months really to to talk about this issue I. It just something that we're open to where very open to understanding and making sure that we're doing the right things and making sure the guys are able to express themselves about the situation. So you know 'cause really been really good about that and and the players they're definitely doing their due diligence and. Making the right decision for our football team. But as a whole as a group as one playing in this league for for twelve years in the past, I really tip my hat off to these young guys you know for really taking step four against the organizations understanding and finally seeing the things that we've been able to talk about over the last fifty, sixty years and now. Starting to come to the forefront. So does really hope that you know as a country you know continue to pray and hopefully you know be a one accord. But as of right now you know our players, they're doing their due diligence coach read is giving them the opportunity in the platform to be able to do that and be able to express themselves as well. He's got a great. A Sam. Really. Appreciate this man I have two questions for you. One is about he seems just improve. Since the moment he sort of came to you guys just want to see from him in his growth in the secondly sort of following up with what you just said. You know I, know coaches given guys the ability to communicate what they, WanNa. Do on opening night if guys choose to express themselves or to choose to do something similar to what we've seen over the last week, what do you want bands and just the general public? No. About the men that you see every day before they make such a gesture I go. Yeah. I'll talk about fitting. Right I. You know since we're short has come here from South Carolina Year you know late round draft pick you know he's just been working extremely hard. You saw later on in the season Co spags was able to develop him and allow him. You know to play special teams but yet and still continue to put him a position where we played him a lot of nickel last year. And we did move him out to the corner a little bit and he he plays some there. So you know coming into this camp, you know he knew is that role being able? He was going to be a dual guy. So you know he's playing faster you know, and now have an opportunity to mix them in with the ones the twos playing corner plan Nikolas wouldn't a lot on his plate but yet and still making sure that he understands that he's going to be needed in those. Roles later on during the season. So you know with him he he is working hard every single day. I. Really like his work echoed ethic that he's putting in he's making some place. He's around the ball, his quickness he he shows some burs throughout the course of this camp. So he did a lot of work on the off season and we just going to put them in the best position to be able to make plays for us, and you know to answer your second question You know whatever it is guys come up come up with throughout whatever they do. In the first game you know coach Reid is definitely going to be open to it. We will have discussions that we have team meetings where we're opening up and having guys had the opportunity to communicate and talk about the issues. and. So look for Diet to be on the same page and throughout the course of the day when when the cameras are off and these guys are working you know is is a one team. You know these guys throughout the course of the last. Couple of months. Last couple of weeks these guys have been communicating. You could see them sitting around the dinner table around the lunch table having discussion. So that is really good. They're having these discussions and both sides understanding where they're coming from but you know they're doing a really good job and with the issues and but yet, and still coming here getting good work but still doing work behind the scenes of what's really going on in today's world in our society. Go to hurry hurry. Echo pleasure to see you what's up herb how are you? I'm well, thanks. I don't see the pine trees in the background there. Yeah we back in camp found. A couple of days ago we watch Jerry sneed stay with tyreek hill deep down the field, and if you remember that he was able to turn around and knock a pass away last minute. With the exception of his his obvious speed what are you seeing Jerry assume That makes you think that this guy could potentially contribute immediately if he's called upon. Man Does, looking at him as a young player and just trying to make sure that we develop him because we any guy that comes into this training camp that came into this camp we're looking for them to be able to help us down the road and you know jared he's picking up the Lingo is he picking it up as fast as we want to know? But he is working at it, and at this point, you know he's feeling comfortable. So like I said before being able to rotate him in with the ones with the tools when you're with the ones, the ones all they do is communicate Tire Matthew he tells everybody what to do. He knows what he's supposed to do and having somebody communicate those things to you that quickly. Now, you can go out and play fast I didn't have to work. We didn't have to work on him with his foot speed or would his quickness being aggressive at the line of scrimmage he came with those tools after being able to watch films and the scouts you know put an ad in front of us enforce about opportunity to make a decision to be able to. Bring him in. So with that, you know just having the opportunity to put him in those positions to understand you know the speed of college versus the NFL in having to do it over and over you don't have to go to class anymore. This is your class work every single day. So being in that playbook being an IPAD, understanding the different calls and the different situations. That, coaches trying to put you in as well as code reporting in those situations and then going out and executing. So you know to be able to see him run down veal in for when he was at the combine, have an opportunity to talk to Him and knowing what he likes to do. You know it just was a pretty good match for us. So he just got to do it every single play every single day and just learn how to become a pro and the national football league. Our guys we've got run out of time and we'll get to more up. Let's go serandon an atom going. The coach. Thank you for the time like dovetail off what Taylor was talking about their about the players in demonstration. Bill O'Brien the Houston Texans earlier in the summer said. If his players choose to kneel, he will neal. What what will you personally do have has there been discussions as a coaching staff as an organization about whether there's going to be we're all in this together a support you you said, they will all be together when you're talking to the players, but the organization be there and be of art of any demonstration or. Didn't mean to cut you on your good coach read like I said one of the best coaches in national football league and he's giving these guys the platform. To be able to open up able to express themselves you know at this time. So whatever the the the organization meaning, the players, the coaches, the administration they choose, and we're going to be one we're going to be together on all the issues that's going on right now. So once we get to that point read is GonNa. Sit Down they have meetings with the with the with the player players, group and I'm pretty sure they have those communications and coach will definitely lamb to us and I believe every last one of these coaches on this culture stab will be INC in Being solidarity whatever the players choose, and just like did watching these guys throughout the course of the day you know on the practice field off the practice fill in the locker room in the training room they have a lot of respect for one another and you know just having it like I said, before planning his league, you know you always have your brothers back and I think everybody will be on one court. So we'll doesn't wait to see exactly what these guys want to do, and then I'm pretty sure the coaches will follow as well as the organization as well. Let's go to Adam for the last one. They say I, WanNa ask you about of a short and obviously you guys, GonNa losing him here a little bit. What's your advice for him for those four weeks between the time his suspension starts in that time he can rejoin you guys on just keep his mental in check. You know last year we had a guy as well in that that was. In a similar situation and religion is looking back on what he did. He was always engaged with the players being able to have opportunity to give them those little tidbits up what they should and what they shouldn't. Because we have a lot of young guys out there that's going to be playing that. Don't how many years in the League so we're going to need to his. Veteran presence and his voice, just as much as if he was here. So you know for him just continue to stay in shape because once he do come back, we're expecting him to come back and be that veteran presence be able to come in and help us out. So on a continual basis just want him to come out there be a leader like he's been. So far, and helping these young guys because he knows that his reps are going to be limited, he's continued to get his work on the side and and staying after practicing, getting, running, and so he's doing all the right things knowing that you know that this is a merit on just nodded sprint and he understand because he's been through it last year before. So Just being there mentally for our young guys but yet, and still keep his mental in in check as well in knowing that he is a part of this organization, but he just has a four game suspension. He's go. He's going to have to do it and we're GONNA hold him down until he comes back. We appreciate your time. Thank you. Thank you. Guys have a great day you to. Waster joining US eight how you doing well doing well I. Know you are. Not, technically into Texas we just yet as we got some camp for looking at the tape of last year, knowing the Texas personnel, knowing how you're trying to work with Willie gay is specific sub package. Maybe you don't want to give away mess what it is, but is there a certain sub package or role that you think you may be able to? Contribute on only honest with you were in the very preliminary preliminary deal with the Texans and were careful not to flip the script too quick. You know what I mean because two reasons one we're still we're still evaluating we're still competing to improve and to we don't want to get stale by getting into it too quick. So we're still working through that process. Touch goodson. Coach, I'm curious how much you lose not You know I I, know you guys. There's a little bit of one what the other side doing right when the offense stops and says, hey, run it again and all that guys can kind of cheat a little bit. You get to know your opponent when you play them every single day. So how much do you lose in the evaluation process not getting to go up against team you don't know what they're doing their personnel. Yeah. I think you definitely lose the aspect of. Guys reacting but that's one of the advantages of going against our offense day in and day out there. So multiple. they do so much and they challenge your is. they challenge you with different personnel, groups, multiple formations, shifts, emotions so to be honest with you were very fortunate. To be able to compete against that offense as compared to some teams. GonNa Adam Thais Regard Adam. He man how you doing today. Good. How are you man? Good. Wanted to ask you about Darius Harris sincere didn't practice for you guys all last year. What have you anything you've learned about him in the few weeks of practice you've had you seen him now and practice field. Yeah. I think he's you know he's like some of the other young guys he's trying to knock some rust off. At the beginning and as as we've got into camp, he's slowly gotten better and better every day You know certainly for guy that hasn't played in a year there's there's some. Pains, but he's definitely improved throughout the camp. Sweeney. Morning Coach had. A question regarding? Your mic linebackers it'd been mentioned among the staff with spags that Willy Gay would be working as the backup Sam and I was wondering who among your younger guys might be fit for for more of that micro. Well, you know the one thing that we try to do is we try to train those guys multi roles because especially in the situation we're in right now you don't know who's going to be up and who's going to be down. You know hitch in Ben of the majority of microbes but we've we've wrapped a variety of guys in that position just in case that we forced into that that realme things and we've been in a game week, we got adapt and adjust. We've got two more questions, guys. Let's go Herbie and then Matt. Hurry. It coach. Katrina said last week to the the biggest thing he seeing on a Ben Nima is. Some last year this year is a strength. What are some of the things you're seeing out of been as we get ready to close out Cam because he's been? Out there. Yeah. I gotTa agree with coach strength and then also just the confidence I think last year Z. developed a bigger and bigger role grew more confident in this year being in a second year doing similar things his competences improved. Derek had. Hey. Matt. Good to see again I how are you? Good. Up with Herbie about been even. His show lots ability for even being able to play multiple positions. How valuable is that and how to have a guy like that behind ish that can be your quarterback out there I think it's huge one. He's got a good feel for the game He sees he sees the game from a Wide Wide Lens and that definitely helped Shen in the more flexibility you have the more you can get a guy ready with limited reps which helps to. Appreciate your time. Thank you. Thanks guys. Take care. This week show is brought to you by sports betting dime dot com your source for the latest odds betting trends, matchup analysis, and advice sports. BETTING DIME DOT COM provides the coverage fans need to with confidence every time follow along for breaking news and explore tools that make it easy to find the biggest money makers and best odds their future trackers cover every major league and more. So you always know who has the best shot at the title whenever you want to get in the game sports betting dime dot com has the action covered from every angle check it out. 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Racism and Hate with Matt Murray

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Racism and Hate with Matt Murray

"We can transform our communities in the twenty th century foods this global a meal. Welcome this is the community psyche. Podcast with your host. Jim nixon today the community podcast sciences. Attention yet again to racism and hates it is so important that we kate raising awareness around subjects. I'm we look at. Why is how we communicate these issues. In the twenty first century. My guest suffered horrific racism when he was a young boy growing up in the littoral area. And then he went on to be appreciate footballer weight gain. He suffered racism at the hands of some funds. This incredible interview. Please take listen to snippet of today's interview can still remember it to the first thing i did was the ball. Come through. and he's like he kidney stone line get it going around a slave. Got the ball and this is like one of the first times like that. You know played and above. Experience like series racism. I came with a slit out on a got the ball and the player random trip told me can still state now is is is a it was a a white referee was quite old police. Fifty sixty s white hat and he gave penalty gave a penalty. I was nine years old. Ten you don't give penalties another member to parents saying we know why you're giving it. We know why you've given it. And he was like that was the reason. And i look back now and the only reason he and that was my first game so i can still remember it now. And how can do that to a kid. And i had to be taken off. The crime is not a time podcast. Welcome to the community podcast. I'm your host jim. Nixon been working in safety for over twenty five years. This podcast will explore how we can transform communities in the twenty first century. I'm delighted to introduce the dies. Guests as murray ma spent his entire career will moon just for all club. He progressed through the wolves academy system to sign professional forms in nineteen. Ninety eight was promoted into the wolves first team on the thirty first of august. Two thousand to the season ended with him. Producing the man of the match performance. In the playoff final in may two thousand and three way produced a number of vodka saves to help the club win promotion to the primarily the pick bane the second half penalty. Save from mike. O'brien his career. Unfortunately was kittle injuries and he retired the twenty nine central matters words as a match reporter an in studio summariser for sports news and he was goalkeeping coach. At the you kaddoumi whoa. That's quite an intra. That was matt. Thank you so which coming onto the commute. Like do podcast today. I'm good thank you and yeah. Some good memories at brings battle are cut down as well Yeah you've even though that was guitar. That's what you had some good signs that you really thank you for coming on i am. I always thought my podcast. We've looking at people's early library. I think he's really important. When we do these podcast and the audience lavi as well is that we dig a little bit prince a year as a person when you grabby nook so. Tell me about the mass the math. So yeah i was was adopted from birth so My you know my necessity is. My mom was english about logical. Data is nigerian Never met live rhythm mos seaborn as put into foster care than adopted by a big. My who i call my mom and dad. If you lie lindor lingering in They separated they both remarried And that's where i met my step. Dad who's steve and he was a massive influence on my football so he was evident finally came into my life at six. Still very very close to my dad as well but my stepdad was amazing He saves everyone finds her naval. South was my hero displayed. Lots and lots of football growing up around the litchfield area little village. They're quote while hamlet could help a elmhurst and then grew up around lichfield. Yes or just. Yeah just played lows in lows event. You know full older time. Love that and there it was it was. It was different upbringing but very very enjoyable. How ju i'm fine that sort of that situation that you had no control over your obviously a mix race card boy in not kind of scenario high did you find that grubbing. A hit was Of always knew yours adopted right from from stopped. Because i was everybody in my adopted family will white so it wasn't no secret. They also adopted there. My brother ben who was his dad was from barbados his mama's english so we weren't biological brothers. Book him my brother. You know but i always say i was really really lucky. You know i've saying the they didn't give me the gift of life but life gave me to give to them. I couldn't have felt anymore loved. It was amazing them. They forever reason. It could have the really really wanted me than my adoptive dad went on to have children live another lady in gannon. Sidestep rovers Insisted their side must step. That had already had children but for me and my brother say were both adopted in honestly feel that the special special people but it will identity things growing up in a group in a very very white area and i did experience a lot. Racism which is a big topic of the moment. Sometimes maybe it was hard for my my doctor parents to to know multifamily you liked to know how and sometimes you to come home. And he'd been in a fight we've been chased from school. Kids will let you play. Just because you're a different. That was difficult. It was difficult and remember playing games of football as a place called showbiz lane and play him so the kids from me stages behind could devout fields and surrounded the pitch and wanted to set traps remain light he saw like whoa all on a do is play football of them. Nothing and he's not a crime to be you know to be mixed race in. I was proud. I am very very proud of mccullough but sometimes when you really oh kid growing up on we wanna do is do. Everybody else is doing then. Sometimes you did thing hallway wide like everyone else you know but you learn to deal with that very lucky that my parents told me not to treat it with violent. So did i get some scrape. Just did but i never start. Any was nothing i could do. Any was literally last resort result. Really comfortable with who. I am a my janney. But i feel that sometimes it was hard for me because i would perceive racism from white people and then when i went to football i would be around a lot of the blatt leads a lace coconut and say things that so my identity was a real challenge book yum a movement mortgage temiz. I've heard a lot of times. Nov experienced south way you get dot com coconut scenario of of gaul a-block friends masao fund and also mixed race friends. And i about not. And he's just a crazy situation. Isn't it up told to Of interviewed the chief prosecutor said on this podcast nazaire. Abso- you've probably heard and we will be discussing which just people ended. The day doesn't matter way. Become from it doesn't matter the color of asking. We'll just people i. I don't say coloring people soot you know yes. Be proud where you come from the may call. It doesn't matter we're all just human beings trying to do the best for ourselves and our families in each other he doesn't it doesn't resonate we've made too and that's very fortunate. Though the of see the family adopted into they love this light in a blood. But you couldn't have had any more lovey really couldn't and my parents have gone on to do so much stuff so light him. Never have. Christmas day was always doing voluntary. Were mom the state of stuff in pool with orphanages in romania and everywhere that they do refugees days now move. Hamilton whatever i invite people from wolverhampton the refugees over to bishop's castle meal a day on they donate blood Good good people. Went for a lot of stigma than my of Adopted me when i was young. They went through a lot of four years ago. Is you know there was some serious stereotypes in prejudice every out so then i met an amazing sunday league. Managing don assulin again. He just didn't you say they saw the person they sort human being. And i have some amazing tonj playing sunday league football coats and then playing for the kennet district stafford she account county. Nine years of age got picked up by wolves and again went on an amazing journey there. So many coaches aaron people come into your life at the right time and he tap into that yes. So did i experience. Racism yesterday did but all in all had a fantastic childhood love my childhood maximum mazen people. People are still friends with now when school christ than into friday anna but yet sixteen years of age when i moved actually into wolf fulltime but i was at the age of nine and like you said in in show retired at twenty nine so it was it. That's my club got so much lovable. Oh yeah yeah. I've got a few family members of love affection for the even though villafane scientifically i put. It's a great copen. There's a lot of great things about not club And the must be amazingly. You must be amazingly prior to what which age there. I think one of the things just pace upon us. What what you said was it was. It was really good to hear what your parents said to you in high calling the instill into the wasn't the roy to react to violence. Yes you had few scrapes. But you didn't react in the. Why possibly some kids could enough eight. Not just shows the having potent. Those role models are young guy. H yeah but kill kindness In my parents said that ultimately v violence than you. So we're gonna compound what they think will just escalated so Fortunes said sometimes when people would literally the Tap for just for listening for no reason whatsoever and if he could it was fight or flight sometimes you know and that was the thing that's yet we went like that and as i got older if ever did experience it i would like to try and educate people very very passionate about show racism. The red card kicked out always a player held which the flight out. Because you can hold a cod. We can wear t shirts about giving time talking to kids Taking time doing that so learning so island a lot. I've learned a lot about about language Prejudices defied so yet very very fortunate to have really really good parents. Good people around me But yeah gone back to time. Wolves walk wotton amazing club amazing people to values enjoyable my mesa villafane. So i was one of biggest regrets. Is that when we went to the premier league was injured. Because i wanted to play in front of the ho- end knowing that have been about honesty for one hundred two hundred people. I went to school with given all sorts. I was desperate to play on that. I didn't do that. Played against the owl being played against blue stoke. Everyone else less coventry. Whatever but i never got to play at villa park shine and that's a real shame. Honestly that will be is to. I would love to play in a park. And i would love to play at goodison. Yeah yeah interesting grind. Yes old-fashioned ground and again stepped up. Being evanston finally went now on loan on an emergency loan for a couple of games but ended up taking sunday festival instead of me so again to That 'cause with made my stepdad so so proud so hear back. Anything is there's a couple of things you could have had. It would probably have been few lotions but look still met. Some great people millennium stadium. He said mazing times but a child is what set you up for that if you like. Yeah i was just going to pick up on what you mentioned in the initial coach and i wanted to ask you about is so important. These people to play those early party career that you never forget them do none. And so i don don ask the wizard wolves fan. And he was there when wolves navy went out of business and he donated some of his wages to try and keep the cook govern. And we used to get free tickets if you wolves in school boy's academies you get free ticket so he had a son cook guys. his wife. Denise in ages made football so much fun fulltime jobs. They were parents yet. They washed kit open. Water meetings organized fixtures took his that they made football funds so all of the managers would say. I become a play for me. Don't have to pay subs do this or give you that. I wanted to play a dumb. I wanted to play for don. He was the best time My first ever game for domino's at cannock played away. Canucks will never forget it so nervous by so excited to play on these two plane age group above myself. We need to use to A player in down at the bottom was the pitch on a bit of a slow with leaves. I can still remember it to the first thing. Date was the bulk. Come through in his kidneys down on your line on iran as slave a got the ball. Unless you like one of the first time zeigler played Experience like series racism. Okay so i'm the only black kid playing in the league. I never used to come against left with one of a black pedicle member. Antony gardner when plays the tottenham aria import veil in that so i came in a slid out on a got the ball in the net player. Ryan tove me. I can still state now is is It was a as a wide referee was quite prolific fifty sixty. So in your kid you feel more sixties white hat and he gave a penalty gave penalty. I was nine years old. It was ten. You don't give penalties member. The parents saying we know why given it. We know why you've given it. And he was like. That was the reason i look back now and i think the only reason he that was my first game so i can still remember it now can do that to a kid and i had to be taken off crying. 'cause i was so upset that my first game voters team the i'd cost go and that was my main on winfrey. That book there was people. Like donnie would just mean. Give fizzy Few sweets and then he took down to the wolves games. And this and that i still remember to this day when it came out from debut at me and i looked up for a season tickets warning slight shed imitate because he was so proud the he played that pie in that and using amazing guy and pick meal took me everywhere and just such a kind kind human being in an amazing a lovely wife. Lovely kids unjust such. You could could So yeah people wasn't people at him. I would never have ended up playing football. There are some really lovely story that just a really do agree with. I think these people they they said that south list they would voluntarily and they. The people that make the superstars in the future all night. They really are. They play such an integral parts of it. Because my parents i three of us evenings so fantastic parents lows support but if people don't help it lifts in picking whirlpool is to say when the kids kids surrounding mogollon. They wanted to get me like me. Can see to fear in the You know the one summit in santa. Monica remember walking home but in overtime they came on training and dunzo of diffused it and the parents diffused it. And yes those people like that that you know. Change your life in deal with these difficult circumstances but to keep football fund. That's what it's about each one of an amazing time. keep it from. Inanimate made a goalie. Coach martin thomas the so many amazing he would play for beverage to go new custody united even amazing coach. Wolves have so many people wolves that would just helped me but it was my sunday days. the the pave that if you like him. And that's why when you hear this stuff about certain coaches of abused position he thinking. How can you do that. You know it's position people's dreams. And i was very very looking at everyone in who i met on. The way really really helped me. Yeah it must be devastating. Analogy is the the poll stewart story in iran. All the other people around the area affected by by your coaches that obviously abused abused their positions. And it's just great to hear that you're one of those individuals that would doubt we've really sincere on station people because when people suffer these conduct issues that lawyers always think effectively. All very very ruined by your views repulsed. Even to the sti- way the gall just will never get over. I'm not saying is so much good that can be done and no matter what things you're going through for me football just mice scape. It was my wisdom passionate love. The anticipating nazi dreamy dream of becoming a professional footballer. You hang on every word of what these coaches say you know. Citizen of a coach said minds thomason. He took time of his of wolves and wasn't told them and because it was adopted they knew how big is gonna be on he. Radio really took time looks at macquarie as some attributes told me do not while couldn't do would put sessions on after the matches repaid. But he knew then i would walk from wolverhampton grammar school. The the stadium. Some like that to the bus get bus bus into the station at wolverhampton trained from wolves to bemis nutri boom new street back to the field and take me hours to get home because i wanted it. So bad moment was a roast in douma. Homework can go again. You know not. That was me monday night. Jews not wolverhampton. Thursday was literally training. Saturday sunday games. You know you really committed to it so it was either schoolwork football and he knew how long to me but for him he could go past my house. It took me about half an hour thirty five minutes if you if you drove it east to drive me home. Drop me back in East just retired from the fa as you remember saying to him a pet. You an amazing that that's what i said. 'cause he was houston amazing person and then worst every time to win that. Many black goalkeepers or anything then began ice. Look david james shocker. Here they were like my heroes growing up. Because i could identify with them. Your full i. But then it was then because i could identify with him and again people would say all strike. 'cause you quick and you fast things like you know ma and just never did any of that. I think because suggest cable does involve the wolves and then jazz moxie later on. There was so many. An the sony black coaches and this and that was it was just never felt. It was any stigma zo. Racism there that made sense book. But martin thomas say he used to drive me home ec two alexa and who will again wasn't him giving that time i don't know if ever had a career so again. What an amazing amazing person who just got so much love for him to the brenta hair and i think he's just shows that if kids like you at that time are given them roy support in the right direction. Yukon prevent cates from being dying. These routes say ni- getting into trouble in gangs and stuff a it just shows just having poll. Dial to to say k. Rolled apply the more the merrier familiar in the more. And get people doing these kinds of things the more chance. We've got of improving things improving communities in reducing crawling over Playful wolves lady called mrs flash and she used to pick allows the laptop from birmingham and bring them in on in a mini bus. It'll come in playful different midland's teams and some fantastic plays so again because it is it difficult for for parents to get people. They young kids. You know not only the time but the expense in every ounce of and if you got over you know Children as parents is really tough. I know what he's like now as a parent and when you're young cagey. This'll take it for granted but i'm buying the boots. The gloves every pronounce is really really. Tough Yes so when when people go the extra yard just because they care and they get that reward not feeding from it and that's why when you do become professional footballer and you in a position to make a difference you you wanna give that time back. 'cause you remember how am i my background. My parents are both you know in decent jobs. You know they really struggling for money. Went light wedged but we send in struggle for money year ramsey. Imagine how some some parents there is is so difficult to. That's say volunteers people go above and beyond really really kind people who just have their reward for them is just senior developing abba career. And yes as you say. I think behind everybody's had any source exists. An unsuccessful relative is because it been good people along the way outside the gray wolves when you were nine a year odyssey picks up really really young. When did you think it was that time when you realize the not maury as a youngster was really a good chance of mike and it was my dream to be a play. But the wasn't In england trials or anything all the way through was always happy forgotten of the year school. Boil catch on do here now that they did one release and because it was another goalkeeping echoed. St louis told a maine and he. He was a lot more visit advanced. But that's what my in. Thomas came in stevens. Go go keep but felt. I had more potential than worried that i wasn't going to be six over six. Full immense suddenly remember combat one summer grown voicing breaks of us fifteen but technically i was okay i understood it then went into wolves and fulltime. Sixteen anything him. Yeah i'm okay. I'm not by that. She was on the bench for the first team by christmas. left school in june july was on the bench for championship. Side in the fa Running we got. I did three or four at least three times on the bench. We actually made the semi final of that competition game. A five year professional contract. Seventeen play for england under sixteen. So folks you know. I'm doing okay here. But the problem as a group of Training so much in demand full load and probably looking back at it now. That would be the woman not regret. But i know that if i was coming through in this generation they manage me look differently because of my you know they understand the physical the you know the maturation to people but i would say yes. Sixteen seventeen when appropriate to looking thing as got chance of actually having a career in these you think they match you think kids play too much yet. I think a lot of that was great. The aegis play them may be light. Nowadays they don't you don't people join academies Did at nine but it was so much more regimented now than it was then and he couldn't then you could still play district to me school in this. So what do feel that we. Everyone was tired of the same rule treat treated with same S- programs enduring the same way in the sameness whereas actually if someone who's six foot to be like that for years and god forbid where i was still growing and growing. Don't yeah so every every night we call it of unique to those individuals all night. Yeah spoke yeah yeah The sports signs in the game and some more advanced than when you would probably be. I in a backpack in the thousands wasn't yes. Ninety seven ninety seven. Ninety eight was when i started fulltime and it was not yet and because went straight into the first team so when you start school at sixteen in any training with like mike style every day and the i team players like steve bull kiko. Everyone like that don goodman. You'll you'll rot your max because you're young. You're young money's still boy than you training with these men than any plane in reserve games with men and book like because i was still playing for the youth team dynamite planning reserves in trouble. I got any days off. Arrest is part. You know recovery spot you training. So that's why now when i help. Guide young footballers in with coaching backgrounds. And if announcing really make sure that you know would listen to the body in the right rest in the they get as well a bespoke. He'll say no spoke signs. But why is it goalkeeper. During the same races center forward you know no different positions positions specific stuff to make you right and where we all about getting size and doing stuff soccer listed gym. But it wasn't conducive to being a goalkeeper. So yeah yeah. I i think a votes needed Deny ferrier early at sixteen seventeen operations wasn't rehab correctly. So yeah i was around the i invariably but that will be a bit. Was the the hottest bit for me. Lopata manifield yeah was mismanaged. Yeah but he's really difficult hindsight's griping is is a great thing. I was going to ask you about the first time when you actually might be. What is that. Like as an individual It's amazing because it had loan so only five year contract to seventeen Brilliant any injuries in this in that luckily goalie coach. But we didn't get much time. We've zony in two days a week so i would go often serve. His first team outfield. The majority of in the senior goal would work with with peak. So then i had. My injuries have been out on loan. And they hadn't worked been sent back and things behind the sun. Five year contract would have been released in all these different trialists in this in that win away. One summer Worked so hard. Bobby mimms it come in a goalie. Coach is amazing. Had a fantastic. Preseason that tried to bring people by thing every time it was like well. Why bring him in when you got map there behind mike alex. He's not conceded a goal in preseason training. While he's doing this doing that so he got injured at palace away. I thought it was gonna come on in the game. I didn't go play. Iphone is going to be a fitness test on the moaning the game will play wimbledon away. But it's at selhurst park so sellers pop for palestinians magor the palestine's but this is when wimbledon will become an afc wimbledon Sorry going to become m. k. Don sorry usual fallout to the fans are boycotting so on the friday. I'm thinking Will he's going to play or at least the defense side saturday morning. Him jones jones's named the team on the friday on his plane. So what. Dad couldn't come because it was his wedding on on that day Play wimbledon travel down. I was nervous conceded straightaway but still good because we've moved wolves finds wimbledon fines which section feel for running than oak see gothic. Play the game. And then still wasn't right. And i was back in and that was eight and i played forty seven games in a row of real felt a real debut. Yeah was at malla new home to read in any just. He was journey Nine going through any copy to get schoolboy contracts and you happy to get a pro contract in play may eighteen reserves mesa tunnel in poland's leading you out and every fin out houston amazing. Feeling the countdown running out so we lost the game. Got man of the match book that i took a really high free kick. I'll never forget anything This but came into his ball miles out that was it. Then that was my us s. I'm gonna come. Eat crosses be dominant in my area and that was a big laughing. The fans live with say folks will funds. That was that was my standout things. So yeah but it was. It was a feeling. I will never ever forget. And i'm very privileged in my opinion because i know that there's very very few fans ever lived the dream plan out there and they would love to do how i managed him. 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So i used to get very nervous before game. So i had to do law coping techniques with dr Even if like you said they're 'bout in the playoff final for example when radha game that people gave me manda matching did. Oh like. I've always that i could have hit that kid. Can i should have cooled Mean that that was how i was is a passive but eh yeah i love i love falls on. I was going to ask you. I'm up in around a lot of sort of decent sports people. Because i was involved in athletics when i was a young kate so i was orion people. You may remember some of these guys phil. Bryant date redmond of individuals and then we used to talk about so of a visualization and. I'm to try and sort of connie cope with these kinds of ways of dating nerves. We would go through. I'm visualizing the rice and high we would run in iowa. Fleet recites hundred. I would tight the band that would become off the bang into the strike would you. There's something similar Visualizing how you would handle certain situation. Yes when i was young. She used to ten complex when i was sixteen. Didn't really get it. Get the five ten books in wherever it was that. Have a five in the morning. I didn't understand on display in on the bench. But i used to look during the shoot in just before the team's win the stands full behind like shooting session. Full grounded is amazing As he got older than yeah a knew more about it Reading baez is a kid a bit like just gun in the flow and then when it got serious Never saw did stuff with hypnosis. And but yet visualization affirmations massive so making sure use the right wording. So i won't make a mistake today. It was i have safe hands. I have great reflexes. I oh my box everything. I i make big saves every i'm gonna do than it will stop playing a game ahead. So yeah i used to like to room on my own. If was a way game is a home game at go for walks up right down what i am not see could stop the smell it feeling so i was already playing the game. So could see me. Ten defenders to squeeze hold on the line visualizing contacting across. I used to watch footage of myself making the save students. Still whenever i did stuff. It didn't feel that goodly cash across you should do this. But my psychology said will watch yourself back then you watch some of the stuff and that might be why the funds that he likes you because you you not bad. Go watch that somebody else is doing that. What would you think anything so when you in the moment it feels different when you watch. Listen to commentary as well. Sometimes if like games with report is saying you know gray say murray and all that. And that's what i felt used to be Wasn't superstitious alight routine about eight minute sentence on before kick-off in and stretch in listen and everything fell on. I still like that now. A light routine before this guy alike routine before a big meeting things that made me feel like you know even just like shave. My added trim abedin shower the suit the nice after yummy all things that make me feel of got real purpose. I'm doing so yeah affirmations in. That was huge for me as a when you literally when you go you already typically. Yeah because there's a goalkeeper econ play away into a game so you have to be arousal levels right but yeah you have to be switched on and everything is. I've been told it's been proven that those muscles already stopped twitching and everything else and even talk about it now. I used to drive to steinway into stadium because it made me feel that and when you walk into the ground the smell of the dow so now defines back in the smell of the big vans. And the ev philippine with match day was like smelling the dressing rooms. And i feel it so yes. This is nothing at the nap. Feed on a match day that something. They're very hard to replace when you retire. It's is addictive. Honestly when that roar fear of failure in a bit you know in that challenging euro and being on the edges full ground is just the best and the lights. It's amazing i think. Think the pressure on a goalkeeper. Really big as while listening. It's like as a striking abba couple of mris. You let go. It's it's all on usenet really. You are under the microscope bowl. Sometimes as a as a k pry. Nso i'm among Replay my stepdad. Lafortune for him because he to think will he just said we've trained haji. Donald stuff control you can control. Don't be scared to make a mistake. Actually no you can go and be the hero. That's what you'll be because you've really well you go to bed at the right time. You control this stuff. Don't worry about the weather because you can't affect that so he changed my mindset into that so and if did make a mistake it was used to say can cope with it because we wouldn't rav different sunny rather different dot so we know via When he played at freedom is like okay. And actually you learn to love being one they for neonatal because when your kid and you still do wish away bit and that sister he does that make sense. Sometimes you wanna look but you know where home someone away to someone like you know. You beat now being one. They'll and you just think him. Blow that whistle. Blow that whistle because euro off kept a clean sheet may decide. That said. don't make mistakes. But i'd give anything now to have one more game against the being what will be will be to be fit but when you do have that side but the other way when you on the pitch leash you can control some than anything while i'm not gonna let anything. I'm going to say. I'm going to manage the game. So yeah is if there is a fair but Ran away from home named think those fans thinking they scored. And you just make big days. Cloud Not just must be amazing as a good fading date dog once or twice probably the but the good times my harry important you think when you talk about teamwork and i think having you think good culture within the centerpiece within within the club everything everything. That's why i feel mick mccarthy's one of the best peop- leaders Of ever worked under in any way and still speak to make now a colin gafa. Ease got the line is perfect. You haven't really know. Many people didn't like him and i certainly don't know anyone who didn't respect him because he led that culture from the top respects. All the way through we talked to everybody correctly commemorating cleaning snow off the pitch clearance Show we could train on the grounds was they will thinking. Well you know easy mme. Bring a tray of tea coffee out some biscuits whereas shovel. Whoa so the gaff was like that presentations. Look i've got my name by a couple right who's going web because the people in the offices celanese school you know school holiday camps and all. That can't do it without you. And by the way you on winning that much on the pitcher you went on the pitch you makes him a lot easier for heaven. You know what he going to the contrast bathing by savage sharon. Leave you you you you slip. Japan's in the corner of the shower nine. You're gonna have no pants because you got picked him up put. It was just respect respect respect but he was so respectful. He was so hard working. Honest mistake no problem joe. Gaffer got listen that home also gaze of home. Now do the do the right thing. I'll be there for my family before i would football. If i mean you get yourself now but then you wanna run through. Brick walls wolfram. You wanna do anything for him so treat you. As adults gave ownership created a culture of were being the best she could be able to express yourself but so much respect him. Yes so. I think that is everything and you couldn't cheat. You wouldn't want like if someone had been racist on the pitch and he heard it or did some and he don't worry the faa would need to deal with it. He would deal with that. You would never be jones. Said it would be no discriminate. He he is one of the best human beings i've ever known human size brilliant coast seattle the knowledge pronounce aca. But i still think he always got the best out of everybody. And he's no no coincidence. Wherever he's gone teams. I think overachieved because if the coachella he creates on a think another part is while for me was i think terry connor play the big pot in that too. Didn't they and quite an influence on your career. You know as as another black man. But i think he not the bit of a stint as the manager. Ea play the mighty part in. That cod mick. Mccarthy sort of ethos and setup terry collins in person honestly the values of that man they complement each a him a make both very similar values but different ways of going around getting what they want and Tc so good at one. Zero one chassis. Putting yet should work on looking at shrimps concentrating on black coach amazing role model. So if you had a plan cancer off because if anyone's anyone's for racist his way with bank. I'm saying you will improve. The referee said that nation now. But maybe it was a white coach saying it wouldn't resonate as much t. So of us to tell us stories about what he went through any played for leeds in banana skins in songs. They sang horrendous. Racism like not even hit enough in the cover was just like buying on blind to he felt the he flew the flag and pave the way so that young black plays myself joleon coming through. Wouldn't experience what he experienced the every sewer young while any place any probably wasn't he coke the white he's amazing to don't but subconsciously may be looking thing will let me to you know because it would hurt because he thinks don't lose a career opportunity of his generation game. Listen he believes now. It'd be generation to fly the flag in the media. We've coaching managerial roles. Because that's generation now coming through because for black players now yesterday received racism on social media areso prejudice. But the you know there's so many black players playing in in some of the most elite teams around the world. Where before that wasn't coming place so he he is honestly man i love love t c. Bits big sur. would still wringing bouncing off him. They didn't see successive of. Just how can. I get wolves first team if you had any so of career boom success. If you just helped you become a bad human being success. So again i use that would values coke today created and yet terry conners wa- family again a real real solid standard up people be yeah saugus ahead is obviously we touched on racism early running your life and yet we've just touched on the render so of rice in black players suffered in the seventies and the eighties. Dj suffer much as a professional In the wolves team when you apply no one ever owned a picture. Wolves form a fellow professional. But from the terraces. Yeah there was a fee. Stadiums played in Onset especially being a substitute or go keep going to get the ball from behind the goal. Then i didn't report it just for my way wave reacting was only gonna do Trump's gonna show you the fixed game than that was my way all the way through as a young kid. You know in the playgrounds electrode. When i'll name him. When she went out communicates now still told me. I convey football because of mcculloch can still see now may ac- face it can hear those words and so when people used to say that to me didn't ever want deter me as older. Because i knew they couldn't have me a my reaction. Was i'm doing what he loved the You'll never stop me doing that. No chance to do that on a plate baron. I don't ever remember losing a game winning. Ray she debuts honesty when the waving the twenty one Here to it. The italy won't the half. I played drew now now but we lost the game but we got facial wound up there again with the faa was that you start. You wanna warm up somewhere else. That game was live on italian tea. Swastikas and You know they will lie monkey in every fan. There's an ultra section. Nothing was done So yeah so from the terraces. Even playing for england in the sixteenth was the only time actually racially abused on the pitch in that was playing against cyprus. That applies apologize after always issue beaten as by. So many would just wanna put you off as a team. Place evacuate to say way and be being a black goalkeeper Eight or nine hundred that mcgrath so the monkey chance of massive than inexperience of it but we didn't nothing was really done about it. We didn't walk off the pitch. We weren known even radioactive how we were. We just call won a game and we win do receive social racism now on social media whenever ace a black lives matter so of subjects on sky guaranteed when he chat you twitter or whatever. I don't i'm not big on. Instagram is open but which is no beijing. Your guest here you know at the airport is all lies. A wildlife is a black day. She back so yeah. I get it but for me. I don't react in a in a way of you. Know i mean the compounded so either killed people who've kindness Baco disappoint you. Feel that way what you you know what you mean by that you realize the blah yes oh He's never since was a kid. I've never felt endanger. And he's never. It never affected me in the way that it stopped me yet. You may think. I'm not induce guy again auburn. I wasn't gonna play. It sounds to me like you've built in mechanisms where there we don't accept it in whenever gonna make sense and we want to eradicate in. Why did you just look at the positive. It say what you You have no power over that it's just high year effectively. Deal a move on nothing. That's really admirable to do that. My my thing is well. I need to bring my children up in a way. So i need to make sure that i i bring them up in the values and the things i used to use when i was younger. That which i wasn't racist was just very ignorant ole. There were things that you know. Discriminate rewards while group at school. That would just normal and a look back now. And i think we'll we use that right okay with somebody. Educate me and told me about that. I because the last thing i would want her to have done was disclosed offense to anybody in that way. Nothing educations big. That's why i will go to show racing. red card. Events at the lows kicked out because educated next generation is massive and sunni starts at home with my own children people close to me so yes disappointment people to that But again if ever i can if someone says some real racist way and i can have that time with them. Sit down than i think. That is the best way to To help me change. I think in the spent twenty years in the service and sometimes when i saw i never saw racism within the service dove show racism. I on the streets and there was there was it to me was just kind of particularly kids. It was died. Been told that. I didn't really understand it. I didn't really get it. And i think boy. Do being what you do. And that's what we do is a place office in trying to get in to understand what what did she say there. And do you understand what that means you know and you can't get puzzled. Look on their face. So i think you're absolutely right. I think not approach. I love it because what they expect a reaction from you Which which is what. You'll give me something totally different. Which i think is the gripe. Why daily made it a really day. Ns oh arafat. Had the most success. Because i do know what it's like. Sometimes when you say is definitely till because i remember just been Must've been bravo was still upset. Primary school led the attack me with a year of him. So i must be careful. Miss boise is six A difference and he was telling me the white people batman black people in nation now so mayan sandwich which my mom told me was like so if so if my coalition bad color why do you guys gone on holiday than trying to get time. You know that would be myself event. Soon as a kitten people use folks time and all this stuff. I light my color. So you know. I don't think anyone's better than anyone. Because of that. That would be my soul. Vance's any said. I will white people betting black people on the fastest runners. A black i would say linford. Christie's the fastest runner. He's black. so why why you know i. I'm happy i am anyway anyway. So this kid who was is likely not so. My answer was willow. You'll remember saying you're older than me not beat you in a race. May whoa will remember it now. I said so. I'll show you a runner than you. Even though you'll white on the run of the and i remember it. Now so by victoria hospital in midfield. So we've raised all the way to the top absolutely walked in not problem. Put moco on walking away. His parents there okay so his parents and some of the parents there and as i'm walking away my legs got from underneath me. You black issued the n. Word this and that and you boot boot main kicking me and luckily big cocaine mona kobdo bravo pushed him and then jumped up and he didn't catch me. Probably that parents didn't said would didn't say a word right so he's attacked me because of my color because of be running as you said that's cool. No problem you've attacked a black kid not a problem. So i get home at selma moves out to Mum's buffet but what she say. My son should not be attacked for the color of the skin will for having running races is not normal. it's no and they. Is those kids. Terrorize me for a long time. So i remember and i can. I can remember his name. So i was in mitchell. I'm six five now sixteen in a big stone. Just got promoted at millennium stadium. I mean look showed him a boys gusto. Sima boys from back in the day always so having a couple of drinks would harto season hunters drop foul-caller season having a couple of drinks. So woolcott the kid. Bob shovel night. over food and chips amid latte came up to me. And he's jim ever made from school. I went to school with his boy. Bahrain journey just fade on the tennis. Said yeah her. Remember be said on. Never ever forget you. Unless it's in your so-so anywhere remember anyone. Let me play football. 'cause by member when we had that running race and you kick malek's from underneath me and stop boom me because mccullough always make this this and every time used to walk because you used to live in davos phase Through shot the window. You could the mean paki The n. word. And he called me black. This and that you will chase me enjoying to surround a pitch and set traps for me if a won't tones after walk all the way round down showbiz lane and he was like a look. Thank you so much. It was very proud moment for glad you remember me. I said Never forget racism. Alison by the way you know and i know if i wanted it to get my own back now foolish So thank you very much and have a good night your friends. He did not know what to do. I was so calm. Among your estimate. David david a top of late. Trailed by lead kebab based on the ship to be allow comments Still to this day. And i can still remember that guy. So he's quality is just the best way to respond to that because again you know. The guy was heightened about them. Because you fight him is not On the big office just ridiculous but hopefully. He is now a different person as well. But i wanted to make sure that he knew the i can still remember those words and the way he treated me in a way he made me feel the fear. Sometimes affair Expense you when you get in chased and you got all these older kids after you and the only thing you've done is be black like you've not said a word is just walking along my own business. While it's it's the feeling is horrendous. Not like he doesn't stupidity of knock him run or if frozen snowballs Mean sesame she literally walk in mind your own business Buying light up. Just just stop for no of a reason crazy crazy situation but again a lot. We said the lobby probably is learned behavior from generations radio of a family members that can just pass on and they don't really understand it and he leads onto my next question really of a big question. But how'd you think we gotta You've already talked about some of the dating. But how do we arrive. Katie how do we stop it will. Football needs to stop lip service and all the players wanna put a a black symbol on social media. Will this now boycotts. okay women. The european super league can happen. Look the outcry look stopped within days. Unbelievable if you want to do the same do the same about racism. Oldies plays an all. Say there's so many you know it doesn't have to be black placed by the way so many plays the want to say that. But do they really. When i used to go to show racial event show racism. The red card events kick out events even been retired for years. I don't carry the same thing as when i'm play to replace turn-up comb place no tunnel it. Wear a t shirt and do this and that and they say if he was give you time go into schools and when play is found guilty of racism. More people on on social media workshops or give you time so play. She'd have to not pay a fine get banned she gonna give it time and going go into any city area this in that beer and then talk about the word Know what it's like when you're nine year old like me. Who caught play. You get chased home. Feel that feel that that that that that what prejudice she's like so education is key hit when raisin from all different angles. But the so much lower. I'm adopted by white people some good. Why in my life so really winds me up when it like become you know becomes an attack some white people because there's lots of white people make a real difference any Because my parents have both y they've seen the hurt they causes me just me head have as much as it hit me out. Probably hit will. Because you don't want that so exhibitors. Lots of things. I think people to keep educating when we do coaching badges. I still. i'm gonna coaching by while never ever did we do on any of my coaching badges a workshop. Racism never yet manages will say things will use expressionistic that and then they'll get a slap on the wrist if you've done that training caught your budget diversity. Training as part of a by players should have to do every three years. If you even on your passport if you move around training should be in workplace If you haven't been three years than except for example i lead. i got told not to use. It would nitty gritty that suppression. I still. I didn't realize i just meant going into real detail but have been told that can be offensive because that was the expression you should that what was left behind after the slave ships were emptied. I didn't know that. So why would use the expression but it wouldn't mean to. Does that make sense of. Actually i would never think a million but that's what everybody said. I would never ever use that to me now. But that's what the numeral woods but that's not that's ignorance. Does that make those my at nanny thing. So i think you've got to educate people talk to people do that so i think more training needs to be compulsory and then the social platforms are horrendous. And they've got to be more accountability or every young prior. I know wants a blue take. So if you wanna give up. You won't have the things you want. The rights of use those platforms has to be some accountability. The people can get back to you. Because it's just it's it's awful. Not don't be on there if you don't to be raised. A abuse watt. That's not right so may be set up in nova platform where these are the criteria. If you want to be a spot for this criteria you can only use it if you use this that. No they said they make the money out the anonymity Social media got massive things unserviceable. I think social may apply party mattino. Nothing is something that we really do need to look at. I think the point while the by footballers the remember where they came from people are you and you all wraps leroy go screaming on when i already abused if they're not prepared to put something back because they all models and people do look up to them so i think it's really important. I give it back because they will argue once a nine year. Old kid getting into a team Going through kademi process in a lot of casey's give it back you know it doesn't take a lot. I think it goes a long white. Isn't it time massive. Because young kid just looks and all i wanted to be. Light was never south for first because he kept the ball out man. I love the way played in all this. He's my hero. And i wanted to play for everton at the time than my style but soon as i could see shock as david james Been me every day. Said i'd hang on that word light. It was made the best thing ever. So if if you've got you know wool strike going into hams and saying no you don't use these words you don't use this you don't use that because it causes off and if people back home using it lie. I know they've. my kids. Came back to me when that devastating. When you say that will you do this. You know that that's wrong. I'm not being like that. Would resonate with me so much. I think if they were told by a hero das- that's what happens than anything elected. You know if you've got these players in the dressing room and go to few schools not lows in those at time but ju just feel old. Invite schools into the clubs. If you want and put workshops on like they used to do. And and that's it so i don't know why the play is given much time but that that i still feel that would have succeeded but are absolutely. I'm coming towards the end of the one of the questions. I always ask my gosh. These israeli think you want us to cover that probably haven't released to die I think that you know if talks about having a lot of talk about life really But like the what role models can do positive role models in the senate. He look involved in everybody's life way you end up and think no one's had a perfect life and i think he's got to be living in the moment sometimes. Good not to project to plan talks about radian and just to tap into the right people and try and try and make a difference put them of enjoyed. It enjoyed the conversation. It's been a nice jazz being reminiscent thinking about some good time. Some great people were saying that of He's been set. Football has been a pod days. And i think for boys amazing vinke gives so much joy. lockdown probably make people really really reflect on what matters and there is no football without a fans. Fans are amazing and the power that football can have on people's lives in the basque escaping passion. For now so yeah. I think it's a game that i love is giving me so much but i really feel that point now where it's been token talk about racism in changing things in in prejudice. I really really feel this topics. Been prevalent for a long long time. So like yet my. It'd be more of a cooler than not we haven't picked up on. Would say that is the course. Can everybody listen to this canadian. Play that pie in any way of making a difference in just make him life as equal as possible and now be the message that i hope comes out on. A famous is a really really good podcast with. Yeah very of got a nice balance in that but he s got serious message behind it. Thanks mark i really appreciate that. You've right absolutely brilliant points. One of the reasons i wanted you on the podcast because a wanna give people hope in and get your really important views and i think someone not year. I'm not just saying this. But unique credible human being and you give a lot back and a one people ought on this. Podcast is show people why you've clearly do not today so just a big. Thank you from me. I'm to give time and to really share those really intimate views united. I think will really resonate repulsive thank you very much. Welcome thank you thank you thank you thank you. Thank you listeners On the community podcast. Today we really appreciate your support with these really important projects. Please like rights and subscribe to the podcast. We really do want to get permission across many people as possible. So you friends colleagues and we will catch on the next episode mcmurray. He's incredible human being such a lovely lovely person so open so on the east and really stands up for what he thinks royce and the way that he has doubts with racism towards himself over a number of years. Should be commended. And i know matt will continue to do as much work as he can to help us. A radical racism and hate in the twenty first century. Thank you so much again. 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I mean, everyone everyone in the bullpen throws hard. I mean this team has pitchers. It's the offense man after this. I series that yellow straight. If we could have just not done that yellow hit an absolute bomb. Maybe romo's the closer, actually. Yeah. I mean, they've used them a couple of different times. I thought it was second writer has Romo loses a closer. Yeah. I think that who has a saves well Romo got it yesterday. But he's pitching like every game. So that's what Sergio Romo does has quote. He's pretty cool. Like, he told Mattingly like look I've made my money like casino with young like he basically said use me as much as you want. You can for the younger guys. You know? It's pretty cool. He's he seems like a really good guy Romo. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he's been in the league forever. And that's I mean as a bullpen guy to be that consistent over that long period because bullpen guys their arms get shot to. So that's that's pretty cool. If you look at this. Rotation. And then you think about the yelich trade to they had this rotation with just one bat because that's really their offense. The last two days that they won their offense did well, but overall the lineup it just it needs a bat. I'm a van the middle line. I'm a fan of Lewis Brinson. He's an he's a nice kid. I enjoyed your interview with him last week this yell at trade. Immediately was a disaster. And and it's only looking worse and worse yellowish continues playing well, even Princeton. So hasn't come out. But if you watch his at bats, he's had a few outs. Like he got robbed was a game one game too. He was literally second. Well, the second game of the year. He was robbed of what could have been home runs defensively. He's kind of been a mess. This year. Got by him four games. How many minutes early? It's early to diving catch yesterday that made up for some of it. But he's getting his numbers aren't great. But it's only been four games. I like his approach. He does seem to be more sturdy at the plate. He's not chasing bad pitches. Christian yelich is becoming an an actual like sports star. It's crazy. He he's on MTV. He's getting he's a recognizable name and face. Now. The friendship with his on Hawaii five o or magnum or one of those shows what has Christian yelich? So he's he's a Sar. He was very unassuming down here. Always. And I guess everybody was in John Carlos Stanton's shadow. But this dude is a top five name in the game right now. And he's absolutely crushing Paul's now. Yeah. Did you see that home run that he hit? I didn't know he he was that strong. That didn't we could hit a ball that hard? If unless Brinson or Monte, Harris Harrison is a Harris or Harrison Harrison and one of those guys has to be an all star for this not to be the worst rate ever. Even if they're just merely an all start. No, I'm just saying freer treat our I don't know about that go Cabrera Brown. Ryan you had a couple of MVP's right right Miguel Cabrera trade, I think will always be rollers that. Will be up there. The thing about this one is that it was a very team friendly graduate. So they were never going to be able to sign, but this is the type of contract that you would ideally have built around. Right. But it seems like he was out on it. So I don't know personality wise, what was going on there that they felt like they needed to move him. But it seems like the type of contract that you'd wanna keep I don't understand why this ownership group got pushed around by a bunch of people. No leverage Yellowstone have leverage. She didn't have lever and mo- JT had leverage because JT was not going to resign here. And he told them that and contract up next year. He would have been a free agent after next year. I think so if you trade JT now when you have two years of team control, you get a lot more back than when you have one year team control or when you have half a season that he's going to be free agent. Or if you just let them walk, but how old are these guys that are coming in here? Boston New around like sharia, Mutoko trait doesn't bother me that much because catchers, they flail out like some of them have twenty year careers, but most of them like your body. Yeah. Your body takes the toll. Really blame them for that JT trade makes sense also because at this point you've traded everybody else. So if you're gonna lose them, you told you he's he's going to leave. What's the point of keeping him like you're not going to contend this year next year? Probably so why bother getting thing? But there was a point even with Sam hinkie, and he gets a lot of credit for what happened to the seventy Sixers. There was a point there. I'm not entirely sure it would've ever stopped with Sam hinkie the process because anytime he got a young asset. He he'd flip them right away. And I'm kinda getting those vibes from the Moreland. Because what what point do we just stopped saying? Well, we've traded ozone we've traded yelich we JT when do they just stopped doing that with young assets only been a couple of seasons. Let's let them, you know. And they've got a good like Alcon. Tara yesterday. Got in was in a trait net guy. Looks the good thing about this pitching staff is we have four guys. And the funny thing is the guy that didn't start opening day. The next four pitchers any one of those guys could emerge as the as well. That's the frustrating thing about this is that they seem to have found pitching. Now, we're one through the rotation. There could still get injured anything in happen. But you seem to have a young pitching corporate. It's not really that young because Caleb Smith and Trevor Richards are not super young and Richards pitching, absolute gem. Yeah. But I mean, ideally, you'd say a while look we found a rotation now we can build around them with hitting. But how long you're not going to be rotation because realistically like going to have him four years down the road. Probably not the same four. We still haven't seen Caleb Smith, but dot outside of Eugenia the next three who Billy who do you think could emerge like what just judging that not only been one star? But like just looking at them who do you think is going to emerge as the as I think coming into the season the concerns with sandy was his officiency? But yesterday he was great like yesterday. He was very efficient ninety two pitches. Eight innings when they took him out. So yesterday that wasn't check him to pitchers. Don Mattingly me it's the first start of the guy. But then it's almost blow it let's not do this Ghani's thing, but ninety pitches was a much. Just go out there, especially with young guys. You don't want them throwing a hundred pitches. The first start like you one hundred pitches. I saw one hundred pitches came out he got through eight out ninety two you don't in the first start of the season. You would do this with almost any pitcher? You don't want to have them starting and ending in the nineties. It was cruising though. Now, that's true. He has they do stressful innings. He didn't have any stressful innings. So from that aspect, you could have made the argument sent him out there. And maybe see what happens you get runner. Does the same thing tended than you could bring enroll more. That's true. But it was too left as it was the top of the order. I'm just I don't I think Donny. I Don Goodman. I know God billion. I totally it. He's not gone that next year. Bold prediction next year? Well, there's any already one of the most tenured Marlins managers ever. I was reading an article where some guy wrote that the best manager in the NFL is gonna lose eighty games this year at least because he's basically saying down donny's like a great manager. We haven't had a single line of the same one day to them every day. Manager. I just don't understand. Why is it Brinson hitting first any sitting eighth and he's hitting filling than he sitting eighth if he had the Yankees lineup. It'd be the same lineup every day. He's not it's not like he has murderers row here that needs to put out we'd have such stiff competition shortstop can't decide between Rosen riddle. I mean, they they just pick one you'd realize to them runs in Rojo's balls make riddle the starter. But Rojo's bald on Saturday, dude. So you're sitting here saying JT riddle should be a hundred and sixty like I'm just saying why is it that we can't have a set lineup. Why's it every day? They're people at Aden. They could flip a coin with all these guys we have we don't really have any studs to be honest offensively. So he's just trying to mess it up. And and how okay let me ask you a question because you're baseball player accomplished athlete. Let me ask you a question as a baseball player. Did you find that you were more successful when you had consistency or every day you came in? And it was like, oh, this is what I'm doing today. L? I I will give you Brinson batting leadoff eighth fifth and eighth in the four game series is. Odd. But that's really the only example there isn't that overblown? No. But I just sitter. I'm also saying okay Ross, for example, rose head would three RBI Saturday night. I think is in place Sunday. And then he's gonna play when Monday home run. No. I know I know you're saying, but in terms of like batting don't you need to be out there constantly getting at bats. Keep rhythm can make the argument that he's getting everyone in a rhythm. He's played almost every guy. They have dude. I would I I would understand your point if these were more accomplished name arguing for JT riddle to be planning on arguing for. I think that if he has mic names you'll remember a couple years ago. I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure when we had Stanton yellow zone. Like that was a set lineup. We had every game yelich second ozone at third stand for like, we just don't have he's trying to find something. And I don't know. I like it. I like that style. Did you guys? See what happened Oltra we call? It a lot of this isn't something to really brag about because a lot of people were calling. What was going to happen with ultra what happened? I don't know. You didn't see no, man. It was it was all over social media. Okay. So there was a fire in which I don't believe the video that went viral accused security guard of throwing out a cigarette and starting a fire. I don't believe that. But that was one of those. And so a lot of fire trucks had to go into Virginia key. This should not Virginia key. There's one road in Rhode our Virginia key doesn't have the infrastructure for an event of this scale smaller things. Yes. But even when the Miami open was over in Key Biscayne, it was a bit of a nightmare. So they told there were no ridesharing apps. Available for old tra- music fast. You couldn't take an Uber or lift over there. And you couldn't get one the leave. They told the crew even though there was all sorts of ambiguity surrounding it. They told anybody who had to take it. You had to look for these details. It wasn't. There wasn't great communication. There was some free. Shuttles leaving from around the or center, and there were some water taxis. I don't know a single person that took a water water taxi. However, the predictable happen, we've told you. This was going to end without ends of people walking from Virginia key over that bridge and back and sure as hell thousands of people took to the streets closing off a bridge that was already packed because fire trucks were having to go in there to put out a fire and fire fest vibes. Just total Miami bleep show. It wasn't fire fast. They'll fire I didn't have a single performance and people couldn't eat. You just have to walk over a bridge. It was not bad. No run over that bridge for fun. I did it two weeks ago. It really honestly, I think it got overblown. I think the internet was just ready because fire fest. Everyone loves those. Documentaries. The the internet was ready to pounce on this thing. Dude, I've been the lollapalooza several times in Chicago. And that's downtown grand park in the city that has great public transportation. And I've walked two miles leaving that part trying to hail a cab or get Newburgh because everything's in absolute mess every new back home every New Year's when people performs. That's exactly what happens. It's two in the morning you've been stuck in a garage for four hours. You can't get out you can't leave. But people just wanted to laugh at the all the all tra- goers. Now when you're running the bridge your dress for the occasion. Oh, I wear more clothes in the people that are walking over that bridge. I'm more dress. What I'm going to say is the ultra your ultra festival goer dresses a little bit differently than your normal festival goer. Usually it's going to be on the sun. Maybe a tank top T shirt shorts comfortable, but their platform shoes. Like cutoff stockings and boots knee-high boots and Mianwali leagues. And it's just not conducive to walking two miles at all. I saw video shack marching ultra dude. Checks events down here. Yeah. Shacks event sound here were really good. I heard that shacks fun house saying, I don't know if you saw the lineup it had a better it had like an ultra music festival quality lineup. I dunno diesel this his pseudonym for his stage name, I guess for DJ -ing. This has become a nice little side hustle forum. He's got this fun house is always playing festivals. I think he just book lollapalooza actually, it's a heady play for like DJ Polly made a career out of just. What are these? I mean, I'm going to be that guy. Like, what are these deejays really doing? I know like the good ones are making good Mitch. They're not producing actually kind of into DJ. So I don't wanna say, no, no, no. You're not offending me. Like, paulie, aren't you essentially just hitting play on? No, there's stuff that you have to do like BPM. I know there's no there's stuff that you have to do. But honestly, no one really in the crowd. No one really knows what's doing up there. So just plays some semi famous to like appearance. Paris Hilton has been has been really bankable DJ just because she's got the name and people wanna see Paris Hilton out there, and she's Shetty plus this up there on stage with her, but she actually gets like credit for being good DJ shacks doing the same thing. Pauly D was just celebrity. I don't know why. Celebrities, don't do this more often because it is a great side hustle. Right. Absolutely. I think I'm getting a tattoo today. Wow. I think I've thought about it. And it's very big decision somewhere that we're going to see it all the time. I was thinking about doing it on the. Four on the form. But I got very hairy arms. Right. So this is a concern of mine because you don't really see a lot of tattoos on Harry arm. Harry forearms you stop the input yet for most people the hair kind of stops. I mean shaved like the top arm because I do get like a little upper, arm hair. And that's on seemly. Yeah. I don't like the way that right? Right. Right. But actually since some clinging and banging with the big boys. Right. Billy you got to. Shave the top of your arms. Okay. Right. Everyone's a little bit. But even most like Billy doesn't end a lotta arm up top. I know I have the same amount as arm as everyone else. But I have you'd agree. I've more than the average person, I'm kinda Harry. So the inner part of the forearm. There's a lot of hair there for me. So I don't think that's the best place to put a tent too. So I think I'm going to bump it up to little bicep. And I've heard the bicep is the part that hurts Elise. I'm really worried about the pain. It seems like. It seems like it would hurt the parts at hurt from my thorough internet where we talked. We talked to that guy. That was an expert was places that are close to a bone. And what is the forearm outside of you know? Just right. Pretty much thin layer skin. Yeah. So I wanna go back up to the bicep. And getting again, I was going to do an American flag. But I I'm going against that. Wow. Yeah. Okay. So what are you doing? Now your dog. No, I wish a little role. Maybe that's the next step. I'm going to next step is going to be a sleeve. No. Well, I don't know. We'll see how much I like this again, Harry arm. So I don't know if I can do the sleep, but I'm gonna get a tribute to prince no to my hometown. I'm gonna do like a three oh five thing. I'm not gonna put the number three zero five there. But I'll get creative with it that your wife gold. I think I think so I think so you think what easy wait hold on. What is this tribute? It's gonna it's gonna say three or five, but it's not going to be digits. It's going to be like, no, it's not gonna be cursive. It's I have. Shirt that has it in like the three three lines, and oh, and then the five lines, but you know, like when you draw the sticks, and you the fifth one goes through what do you call that like tally? Yeah. Like tally tally marks. So you're gonna have just three hundred. Oh, no the. Oh. Oh, yeah. There isn't a tally for zero. So I'm going to have to just go. Oh there. That's cool. Am I trying too hard? Thirty three is a a weird time. I think to decide that. Guess right. I don't think I am dressing a little bit different. I want to get a new car and I'm getting tattoos. Yeah. I have noticed you've been guessing a little more corporate. I think. Yeah. Perhaps getting look that. No, no. I guess I'm trying to look like I have it together. When I don't just do. God's here for peleton's spring is finally here. And if you're looking to get back into a great workout groove. We have to tell you about the latest from peleton the tread it offers an expansive range of boot camp running strength, walking, and stretching classes the bikes are fantastic. And now the tread. It's convenient bring the best total body instruction to you at home on your time. Peleton knows you're busy classes range from ten to sixty minutes long. I opt for the ten minute long class. 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But one day he heard that gyco could save money on car insurance. So he switched and saved a bunch, which was awesome. Donlevatar? Greg. Cody of the Miami Herald is writing an article, and I'm reading it Maas Miami sold out Miami, artists, Miami culture, and I'm reading MAs Miami sold out, and I'm reading about digital podcast network. And I'm reading about us. I'm like, this is our dreams come and truth. Still God's a thousand people come out, and we see the shipping container on their on stage. And they're like Rockstars you and me both had tears in our eyes. We're like mom and dad of sentiment, and it's hard to get you to sentiment, man. That was a very emotional moment for us to see those guys. I'm telling you guys, you're on stage did and I were both crying. Are you guys aware of this crying crocodile? Doc it out here. So say. I thought they meant big. Our show with the stugatz on the ticket, Mike. I'm not too. Sure. About getting tattooed today. Look what why give some general or it seems like a weekend thing to do. It seems when when you wake up on a Monday morning, and you get to work in the first thing he says, I think I'm getting tattooed today. It just like maybe think about it. Maybe do it Wednesday. This isn't this isn't a rash decision thinking about it for a while. Tattoos. Most sound like it to be honest with you said last week you wanted to American flag had to if you ever got one and this week, you birdie changed what tattoo you because I was because I've been really getting serious about it. Right. And I've been mapping it out and holding it up, and like the forearm hair thing is a bit of a hurdle. Why don't you draw it with a marker and rock walk around with it? And then decide if. I've heard that something that I should do. Yeah. Like, maybe have it stenciled on by the artists and see just how how it feels. I feel like most tattoo shops are closed Monday. It just feels like that type of business like they like a lot of people are like, you know, what it's Monday after work getting tattooed today. I want something on like you get drunk on a Friday. And then like, you're like, you know, let's do this Sunday. I want this to be a sober decision. That's true. I don't want this heels like a weekend event, maybe Thursday events. I feel you a little bit. But it doesn't take a few days to heal. I don't want my weekend ruined by you know, having this itchy flaky thing. How long does that last the itching and the flaking and you're asking the wrong want your biker gang for you and you show but the tattoos weekend? Yeah. I hate it all bandaged up. I wanna I wanna get it. I think Monday's actually the perfect day for you guys walk around with like Saran wrap around your arm days. Isn't that what they do? I don't know. I I've seen it. I don't know. How long that's supposed to last week what Saran wrap on the arm. Yeah. We have heard this thing. It just doesn't see it seems so painful, I know there's depends on where you do it. It's just Google than someone said that it's an eight out of ten a forum tattoo on the pain scale. I'm like that seems high. It seems pretty high doesn't it kinda sound like the drill of the dentist to. It's like, I don't like needles either. It's so when I was a little kid I used to like they used to have like six people hold me down to to draw my blood. Heard. Really bad doesn't wanna tattoo of one at a tattoo for a while. And I just wanna to do it. And also Chris pointed out, I'm having a midlife crisis. I mean, I can't I look early little early first step omitting. You have a profitable. That's true. I mean. Yeah. No. I next step is don't make regrettable decision. Is this admit that? There's a problem. Well, I feel like so the reason why I'm chickening out on the forearm. American flag thing is that's big. And that's you know, it's going to be they're going to have to do all fifty stars. And that seems like very tedious, and that seems like a whole to do, and I just sort of want to get in and get out resigned. I don't I ain't got all day. Like just are you prepared because you're it's a conversation starter you're gonna get from now on a lot of times. Oh, hey nice. That to Where'd you love America. Or not though, honestly like some people die for America. You're not willing to get fifty stars in your arm. We'll actually love America another. Another thing though is actually weighing on my mind yesterday came to this. I'm like people are gonna think I served because I'm gonna make it very service. I'm not this. I mean, I'm a huge US men's national and women's. National team soccer fan, but I'm not over here just raw raw USAO time. So it'd be a bit of a surprise. I'm usually if you have a flag on your tattooed on your person, especially for this being my first and only tattoo at the time. Well, what does this mean to you? I just think the flag is kinda cool. What's going to be responsible in? They're like, hey nice tattoo. Did you serve? And then, you know, I love my country though. I love you USA. And then it's just going to turn into a political discussion half the time. So I was like I don't I don't know if I if I'm ready for this. There's all sorts of other things I wanted to consider just Joost sitting through it. And I think the flag it depending on where you are in the world. This could be pretty polarizing tattoo a tally Mark of three. Oh five. I don't really see anybody really having an issue or making a comment or conversation about it. It's just something that's important to me. It's April Fool's day. What should we do? Can we get down with something today? Maybe this whole thing is that maybe I'm not really getting a tad now Stu guys being around. The horn is an April Fools joke rate. It's gotta be has. He know do we tell him. I'm like, hey, be prepared for them to just kind of make a joke. Why isn't his mind veering that way because he's blinded by the ability to be on around the horn? He's wanted for such a long time that if it says Hades, it's April first, he's not even thinking, he's just thinking. Hey, I could be on around the horn today and around the horn is one of those shows that takes April Fools, save very serious. They always got some sort of gimmick working on. So for sure they should have him. Do the show like go through get points get eliminated, and then the joke be he just doesn't appear then like at five o'clock or five thirty when it plays. He's just not there and they replaced him with someone else. What incredible commitment and the waste of huge ESPN resources and money. I feel bad now repealing that. This is probably a joke. Like, I feel bad that this is why they're getting him on. I think you'll like pop on but the only immediately eliminated. Yeah. Waste his time. And then he's going to be mad about that. You should be there. They're using them as a joke, but we don't we don't know any of this feature. This is theorizing. This is happening. The KYW's been trying to get it's all these ever wanted. For ten years. He's gotten rejected time and time again. And then all of a sudden on April Fools day is when they have a change of heart. Remember, the reasoning behind this? He's not a writer is he doesn't have any credibility. It's very credible show around the horn is and they've always been pretty stern in rejecting. Stugatz. Because he's the clown prince of whatever the hell he does here. A sources told me that Woody pages the host today. Okay. All right. Should we be revealing all this stuff? Now. It'd be more Matt on tell me if you don't want me to know. I'd be even more mad if I'm stugatz. Like, oh, you're bringing me in for the wacky Woody page day. I can't have Tony. I'm April full. This is I mean, this isn't helping the credibility concerns. Even if he does like a full show this, okay? Is this a one off what if he wins? Does he come back champion you? You have to actually be informed went around the horn. It's like jeopardy, right? Like the winter comes back. No, that's true that you have. Have original takes notice reality. Whenever you come up with something. And you could be like, you know, what I haven't heard that. That's when he gives the extra points. So is repeating things. He's already hurt. So. Yeah. And he's going to be learning about topics from other panelists. So I think the key would sue got says don't be the fast voice. Yeah. Because you need to steal somebody else's taken build on it. Turn it in dot com. Stuff plagiarize from the internet. They basically talk for forty seconds. And they're either getting points during it with good points. And if they're not making good points. There's always those sad little two points. Reality does at the very end. Someone says something wasn't very wasn't that great. Wasn't that original? They're done talking reality. Just goes, dude. I honestly would rather have gods hosted then be panelist like stugatz with the buttons. He would just be better than him giving opinions. I would think. I think so God's would be terrible host. Oh, no way Yasser won't let anybody else, but as part of God's what are just be a train wreck. Yeah. That'd be great. What are the best April Fools day? Gags like of all time. Are there any like historic ones? Where people actually got fooled because aren't doesn't everyone have their radar up on April flight, this might be recency? But I think I think one of the more effective ones was Anthony Davis last year because he didn't actually do it on April Fools day. It was a few days before when he put out the video of him getting rid of his Yuna, bro. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That one got me. I I was thinking like maybe this is a marketing ploy. Never even it was so far in advance of April Fools, a couple of days that I didn't consider that. I thought it was like some sort of viral marketing ploy, maybe but a lot of people got full by that. I still can't believe that les miles. Apollo movie is real I'm still waiting to be told that that wasn't real like, I know that it's out there and people have seen it, and it's actually a movie, but I still can't believe it. Mentioned less miles transition, less miles. I feel so bad for mardi mardi Marty. Smith's America is launching on the libertarian friends podcast network this week, and it's wrestlemainia week. And he had the perfect show guest in RIC flair and Rick flair yesterday. We got word had to cancel Marty Smith. I dunno. It's wrestlemainia week. And he's he's nature boys. Daughters main eventing, it's a big week for old Nate. So can you guys are BFF's? You couldn't throw taxation it should should've gotten involved, but MAURICE friends with RIC flair to I think mardi got invited to Lewis birthday didn't show up. And maybe that's why if he would've shown. So the I guess I'm Marty Smith's America as a member of laboratory and friends at work is going to be less miles. So if you have any questions Bill about this movie and its authenticity. Please send send it along. Yeah. I wanna nature boy so bad. I don't know how he's gonna spend this like we're freaking out a little bit. I'm looking up best pranks of all time on April Fools. I see ninety six Taco Bell claimed that they bought the liberty bell. They didn't really. Doesn't seem like something that would be for sale. What else is on that list because that's nothing. That's the top of a lot of people are telling me attended toilet paper. A lot of people are telling me that I should not do this tattooed thing. But I should consider it more. I know it makes it seem like this is a role late last week you had one plan. And now you have a different one that that's three days. Something changed in for a lifetime. You might just make a poll today and find out what to Mike should get. Tattoo, you should get and where I should get it. But you have to stick to this. Probably. I think it's a good plant think of it for. I think about it for a week. I thought about thought about three day tally. I thought about it for a while. Yeah. And I'm Monday tattoo. What's the problem? I think you really hung up on this muga to on a Monday. Just the Monday. You don't do things. Like that you go to work, you go home you rest. It's money. I wanna give myself an exciting thing to do. Right. Nobody looks forward forward Monday. So why there will be nobody else this Monday. I'm like, let me change it up. Let me get something. That's stuck on me for the rest of my tattoo are out there. Call in seven eight six four five six four eight three seven tell Mike that nobody gets two hundred one by far the slowest at what would you? What would you guess is the slowest tattooed of the week probably Monday Monday through Wednesday haircuts for that reason? Because there's not that many people there ratings. We're getting ready for the right? Great day for Monday through Monday, great day for terrible day for the problem with Monday's that usually the guy that I go to. I don't have an officially a guy. Like, I haven't made that commitment to Barbara. Right. But I know the guys there and he's like a younger guy like an older barbershop. So for the most part, I think he's a victim of age discrimination where none of the older clients go to him because they don't want to get the haircut by him which is perfect for me because I never have to wait. I just go right to the corner. I tell the guy we have. Difficulty sometimes communicating because my Spanish describing a haircut isn't the best. So oftentimes, let's say oftentimes, the I don't get the haircut that I desired because they had difficulty explaining it. But it's ten dollars who's going to who's going to be that deal. Nobody that's so that is a crazy to repair awesome. You know, I to be honest with you, I drove by a seven dollar haircut place the other day. And I said, you know, what I think I may be doing this seven think doing this wrong. If there's seven dollar haircuts out there on paying ten five times as much as that you pay fifty dollars for a haircut. No, no seven dollars you pay thirty five leave as a tip. Well, thirty five includes a tip includes it. Oh, wow. No. I give a five dollar tip. Give a fifty percent to. I mean. No any fifty percent tippers probably not. A lot of people that get a dollar haircuts. Well, something you're not thinking about also is the tattoo fading. You wanted to get it touched up. Yeah. You're going to have to get a up, I've considered this, man. Oh, man, Mr. transition over here. I thought we were on haircut. Yeah. What are we talking about? All right. I have a bone to pick though with my haircut with the Monday take. Guys, not there on Monday. I went last Monday, and he wasn't there. And now I had to go to another guy, and I did the same young guy thing because he wasn't being bought. Actually, there was like Royal when there is a Monday the worst day to get a haircut and because he wanna look fresh for the weekend now, especially my haircuts. I get a fade not my lifestyle. I can't have a fade on Monday by the time the weekend rolls around. It's coming look as good. I like to get one on Thursday. Digging pictures of you, who cares. What you look like. No. I don't have repeat don't have paparazzi, but my new barber. My new regular you. Remember, I had Canadian rob who moved away, and then I had Figo and I loved L C Gatto, but he moved to a different shopping. It's just way too far. I mean, basically in the Everglades, so who's your new gang? So I have a new guy named Ray. And he does he does a great job. I'm happy. I'm very happy with Ray. But we had an uncomfortable moment a couple of months ago because he's like, hey, man. Do you mind if I put this on my Instagram, no one we'll see your face? But I'm like, I don't do that why I want because then like, I don't know if you knew what I did he shot me a follow on Instagram after I followed him on Instagram. So now, I think he knows like you tell them. No. Because I said, Nah, I don't do that. It was I was awkward with it. I'm usually better in those situations of off the cuff, but I didn't have a good answer as to. Why don't you do that? I didn't want anybody like, hey, man. That's Mike grinds hair. I didn't want that. I just think people recognize your hair, I think. Yeah. Miami. I think people. The demo of Miami people that would follow their Barbara on Instagram and listen to the show. I think there's a bit of a crossover. I think there would people that that would let them know. Hey, hey, man. That's Mike Ryan's the back of Mike Ryan ten and I just didn't want like that. Even if someone for whatever reason knows what the back of your head looks like why would that be an issue? It's just a kind of weird. I don't wanna be like making a cameo up. And in someone's like, I'm I'm an influence Billy. You're not. All right. So let's get phone calls because I need tattooed tips. If people think that I'm being too rash. Because slim is already texting me that I'm making a huge mistake. This slim have tattoos. I don't know self Linda calls to hang on slim talk down the line, real quick. Slim. Okay. He's probably not that. I don't have to. That's a good slim. I mean, you started this show saying I think I'm getting a tattoo whenever that's you. Don't get a tattoo on a day where you said, I think I'm getting Allison has tattoos Allison United statues. Hey, slim. Hey, man, I shouldn't get too. I you should absolutely not get that to you are not ready. It's not the kind of thing you just get in and get out. Well, how do you get ready? Hold on a second so them, how do you get ready for this? How do you get ready you trained to be like one hundred percent convinced in what you're getting like the American flag tattooed thing is if it's not something that should be like displayed one hundred percent of the time. If you're worried about getting into discussions about it. Maybe if you want if you're really set on the American flag, get it on your leg or something. So that you can cover it up with pants easily more on your shoulder with a t shirt now part of this is I just want to get a tattoo to prove you wrong. Because now now the macho stuff is happening where you're like, I'm not ready for this. And now it just wanna get a tattoo to say. Yeah, I'm ready for it slam you agree Monday. The worst day to get to I totally disagree with that get the tattoo. Get the tattoo whenever you want slim. Do you have? Yeah. And I actually wanted originally to get it on my forearm and was convinced to get it on my leg. So I have a big portrait on my leg and text. All right. So obviously the the question whenever someone asks you about a tattoo and they don't have that twos. Is did it hurt? I'm going into this knowing that it hurts. But I don't really have any sort of frame of reference for the pain. Can I can you compare it to anything for me because I am a little worried about the needle thing? Stephanie, not as bad as the kidney stone. I passed. Okay. Did you'll be fine. Like, the pain is not. It's really not a big deal. Birt's, but like, it's just pain. Yeah. Paints temporary glory lasts forever. And so all the set to it's part of the whole experience, man. Like, it's a it's like, a spiritual experience kind of. So you're in it, and you're hurting, and then you come out with this beautiful thing on you that you hopefully love for the rest of your life, so slim should he go with someone or should this be just like a private moment between him and his tattoo artists. Whatever he wants, man. I think the wife should probably come. Donlevatar? Stugatz. Doing hard hard preparation for the show has just been blurting to everyone who will listen do you guys realize that we're not making francs anymore. You realize their shortage of famous francs in the country. Yeah. Stugatz. I obviously brought it up with the guys. And we were having a very interesting conversation. It wasn't interesting. Well, we thought it was the obvious is Frank Sinatra. He's the most famous Frank of them all after that. Good luck. Good luck. So I'm telling you kids if your name Frank out there is a good chance. You're not gonna matte to anything. This is our show with stugatz on the ticket. All right. We got a couple of callers that are willing to help me with my conundrum today, which is I want to get a tattoo and I'm thinking about getting one today. Even though Chris even though it's Monday vehemently opposed Monday tattoos. I don't want to jeopardize my Tuesday soccer game. I really wanna play soccer and. I don't think I can play soccer with what has been described as a wound on my arm because then it gets infected and man I set to his already affecting my life. We were talking about the best days to get tattoos. Get haircuts Tuesday a great dentist day, by the way. You don't wanna do that on a Monday. It's the same thing with the tattoo. You you know, you get off work. You don't wanna on a Monday have to go get a dentist point Tuesday. Perfect dentists day. I like having benchmarks to look forward to on Monday. Mike, oh, this is my average Monday. I'm getting a tattoo this Monday, or I'm I'm going to the dentist. I like spicing one days up. We'll spicy Monday. You should be Mexican food. Well, no the taco Tuesday. Yeah. Go to mos- or lime. Mos-? They're so nice when you enter modes, I just love a greeting at a chain rush that has the annoying for the people that work there long get tell after women thing. The last couple of times I've gone cold sewn. No one's told me follow me to the stone. And I thou I would look forward to that greatly. I need someone to tell me to follow them to the sewn. All right. So we go out to dove. Who's got some tips for me? Maybe why don't you get your tattoo after your soccer game? And then you have a full week to recover before your next soccer game. This is one of the things that I'm considering. I told you Wednesday be good tattoo day, though of you're on the air. Yeah. Yeah. Gamma? Gamma? That's an okay suggestion. But my I'm not a doctor what I think you need more than a tattoo or thing is more of like, a wild different training up type of an experience like sky diving scuba diving some sort of an exotic vacation and you do need your Tuesday soccer game. So I would say book the trip maybe today for Wednesday morning through Monday. All right. Well, I appreciate the the advice dove. I don't want to go skydiving at all that seems very reckless in dangerous. And quite frankly scary. I don't need in my life. I know a lot of people need to do that that adrenaline rush. My midlife crisis a quarter life crisis. Really, isn't that serious? How old are you? I'm thirty three years old twenty is quarter life this isn't quarter life now there's this closer to mid life closer to midlife. Yeah. Sixty six would be kind of disappointing. Diseases out there man, I have to catch something. I'd be really disappointed in sixty six. I must admit I don't want to be a negative Nellie. But there's also things that can happen with tattoos. I'm sure there's infections that you can get you know, you don't want to be a negative Nellie. I'm just saying that's a good point marie-lise. Yeah. What you should do as you should get it as close to the bottom of an extremity as possible in case there's on infection or something you lose as little of your arm as possible. You might wanna like if you were to get it on your forearm. You could fear radically. Let's say, you know, worst case scenario get some sort of horrible infection poisoning where you have to lose an arm. I would imagine that it's easier. If you lose elbow down than if you lose made, you know by septa, you might think might wanna Google tattoo horror stories before you get don't do that. That's no way to live life to not do that horror stories. That's the worst thing you could do that. Are you speaking from experience here yell? Joan Google don't Google it. I'm telling you because they look Google headache. And it turns into like all kinds of horrible things going on with your brain. So do not Google bad things for a tattoo, if you actually want to get I did you're never gonna get sixteen on buzzfeed's don't see to horror stories, permanently cringe. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No. I don't wanna oh there are their pictures. Here. Don't look at the pictures. Anything about Monday. Don't look at it. Does it we go to anymore tattoo advice? We go out to will. Will you're on the air. Mike to go on guys, not I'm okay? One thing. I agree with Chris horrible things to do it on a Monday. You got you got soccer tomorrow. I would not do it on the reason I got pets that one of my four, and I have one in the inside of my lip Lin. What day did you get them? If you don't mind me asking the one on my four. Oh, would they definitely got the one on your lip on a Monday? I think that was a Friday the one on my forum. I got Thursday night. I do remember that. What does one say don't don't know? It's a three zero five three five on the, and that's what that's what I'm trying to do that too might get live tat considered the lip. My sister-in-law actually has a lip tattoo, and that doesn't because I've just never enjoyed it. When people try to show me as kind of upside down. So when you flap down your lip you like people and those fade, very Ashley has yours faded best the thing when I got the lift at two I did look it up. It said like usually up to six months, they will start fading. I've had it now for two years, and it has faded one bit. So it they I read it. It's it's off and on and what I can tell you is the pet to did not hurt as much as a foreign tattoos. Okay. Which is weird. You feel if your get do you feel it when you eat or when you talk when you first get it. Yeah. It's like, you know, when you bite the inside of your lip and it kinda swells up a bit. I it's and they'll. Like that. But after after a he'll sometimes I forget, I even have in what situation do you show off your inner lip tattoo. Like when something great happens in Miami, culture, you go. Yeah. You start ripping down your so people see of the three beats the the words. Yeah. The only time other that like the only time I've shown it like just to show off was I sent it to to Instagram's by only invade and they put it up on their website other than that. The only time I show it off when people asking me how many taxes I have. And I'm like, oh, I got a inside lip has. They're like, oh my God. Really? Can I see? So that's when I showed up, but like I said other than that. I forget it there. I mean, how great is only. Indeed. By the way, isn't it the best? It's the best. It's the best. Have you been living here my whole life? I there's still so many things I have seen before have you perfected showing people to tattoo without actually touching your lip. Can you do it without any hands? No because it's kind of like deep in there. So like, we're all doing that right studio. We're all trying to like show, if we have yet to know know, it's hard for me. I mean, I don't have the biggest myths in the world. So it's not that easy. So I do have to use my hands to pull down my lip secrecy it. Well, thank you for the helpful call. Will you said you gotta forearm tattoo. Do you have a bicep tattoo? No, no. I don't have a bias that too. I wanna get a sneak done. What I will say about getting the by set to is. Yeah. You want to get something that you're not going to regret later on even if you're like us, you them a guy, but you know, what I still like it and don't do it. Now, if you're gonna go play soccer, you're going to be sweating all over basically, an open wound after that. Maybe maybe a Wednesday tattoo. Chris maybe maybe pivots Wednesday. Thank you so much for the help. I appreciate it actually. Well, how about that hopeful call? I mean that that never happens. No problem, guys, all our callers are held I love her colors. The having having been trying to draw. I was I was just like banging the coal screen thing. Like Zule Lander and on. So we're trying to get the files off the computer. So you think about the lip tattooed thing now or not doing whatever I do want to be only Dade? But I've realized that I can be on only in Dade that Instagram account if I just do the three oh five tally marks on my bicep. Yeah. Su- God's who've been here. The entire time thinking about getting tattoo today, as you know, because you've been here sitting the entire time. You've heard us question whether or not you're actually going to be on around the horn. So should I do this tattoo? Yeah. Of course, you should do. Well, I mean, why do you wanna do the tattoo? I mean, perhaps you set it. But I was here, and I wasn't listening. Yeah. But that's that's what you do. I don't know. I think it's a midlife crisis thing. Honestly. Right. I did get a handle it by going to a tattoo parlor. Yeah. I've been feeling a kind of way for six months. So might as well make a decision that'll affect me the rest of my life tonight on Monday, go for it, man. Thank you brother fours one day for for a tattoo. It's it's all of the seven days available to you. It is the oddest day to gang to. Yeah. Yes. A monday. I mean, people don't think about tattoo Ma maybe Friday, maybe Friday night, maybe early Saturday morning you Monday estranged at Stu guts, I'm worried for you. Why I you know, what they today is? I do. I. Yeah. You you know, that is right now, it's April Fool's day. And I'm worried that this whole around the horn thing is joke on you. It might be man. I listen as long as they send a check. I don't care what they do. Really know. You're going to be legitimately hurt. If you're the butt of some. Yeah. If they bring you in, and they immediately give you like negative six hundred and they kick you off the show. You're going to be upset. I'll be furious. Yeah. Come on, man. I'll be furious. I will. But if the check clears we'll be a little less Yuri us. That's all still you don't even get reality today. Would he page? I think is hosting. What do you mean? Yeah. I don't think we're supposed to be revealing that I did that. And then Lorenzo yelled at me, he was the mole. So guys if you in Washington, if you're listening to this, and you're like, how did he find it was Lorenzo? So get mad at him. Not me. I made I suppose the reality for twenty minutes yesterday. So I don't know. And this is just all some sort of ruse. You're you're going to be I'm going to be hurt. You're going to be hurt by this. Listen, they will feel my fury. They will feel my anger because you get tattoos on a Monday. I play golf a Monday. Okay. Ed. So if they anyone's said Thursday to Friday to Saturday Saturdays, a they dare. Fair if they dare pull it April Fools joke on me, which a it'll get paid. I don't get a get to give hot takes and see. I don't get the play golf today. I'll be furious. Even if that check clears. Less so little so I- lightly less. I do the cigarette ultra protective of sue God's. And I'm not here for around the horns jokes. If this is a joke. Like, I'm going to be legitimately mad about this. Because you've been hearing for ten years, you lack the credibility. They're not gonna put you up there. You've seen Lil Wayne do around the horn. Yes. You you've sat there on the credibility front? I don't know. What's changed? So maybe you guys are onto something. I've sat there and watched other people that aren't known as writers had the rules bent for them. You're here every day watching Izzie get on around the horn multiple times a week, and you're still you're told repeatedly. No. And then don't you find it a little fishy that this change of heart and huge departure from everything you've ever heard from the production team over there on April. First they're going to have this change of heart. Yeah. Unequal pools day. Yeah. I'm not here for it. Not having it. All right. Well, I'll be here for it. And but now I'm concerned you guys got me thinking wait till Mike as. Two, and he starts talking like that who's doing who's doing HQ with with Dan today. Just to raise my is. It is it's Michael Smith this week. Okay. Yeah. Oh, Jesus have to give Jay Wakefield update. Remember the tournaments almost over this. Go out to Jay Wakefield in the heart of win. Would try the shipping container flight? Chris Cody has a commanding lead your I'm calling it. You're the winner ginger yummy. How he's going to win. But tell me the leader you don't wanna do that. You're almost by one hundred votes. I think now I think now the real competition is getting up by one hundred but ROY had a dominating weekend. I guess a real beer drinkers went out to Jay Wakefield over the weekend. And now he's extended his second-place lead to practically twenty as about time. You drink his showed up. Thank you guys. A little too late though for ROY. However, maybe you can make this interesting with a late surge over final four weekend head out to Jay Wakefield. I want to get to one call before we wrap things up here on the four you get to that. I saw a picture on Twitter of ROY outside. Jay wakefield. Paying people to vote for his beer this weekend. Eddie play. I wanna go out to Jeff because of the subject line on his call is Mike is getting bad. I got money get outta here. Go ahead. Jeff. Hey, mike. I think that you're getting bad advice. And there's some information regarding Mondays that you guys maybe non or aren't thinking about on a Monday, if you walk in you're gonna get an apprentice. So you wanna think about calling in and making an appointment, and you wanna ask for the lead person or the owner as your artist. Mike Schuck right now. Wow. That's what I was saying about haircuts. Barbara's aren't in there on Monday. Definitely not there. Mondays there Friday Saturday and Sunday Sunday, you get all the lowest. What's it? Caller's name. I forgot sorry, sir. Jeff, Jeff, let me ask you a question would the stat to be cheaper than the the artists had to or? No. Yeah. It like a Prentice is going to be fifty bucks an hour. The head person who owns it might be like one Kip you now or this is Miami prices. It's a third of the price. You should go today. Yeah. But it's also Rentis. Rentis how long how hard is it? Yeah. You'd straight lines. I don't have this complicated design, though, Jeff it if they can't do circles or hard, though, the oath going to be difficult Jeff there is a sound like to expert how harder circles to draw. Yeah. It can get goofed up really really bad, Mike, and then you end up getting to tattoos 'cause you need a cover up, and you're gonna end up paying twice because you have to go back to the owner for the owner to fitness, wait a minute. We have to tattoo artist messes up you then have to pay for them to fix their mistake. Yes. That that Jeff. What's that about guys at some point Van Gogh was an apprentice? All right. Just because he's an apprentice doesn't mean that he can't do. Great work. We thank you for the for the call, Jeff. Yeah. I think the one thing that is really sticking with me is a place that I can't just stroll in and get something as a tattoo parlor, I probably have to reach out to somebody on the Graham. All right, Monday tattoo off.

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The True Power of Opportunity (w/ Ian Stanley) | RTB#10

The Road To A Billion

1:55:23 hr | 10 months ago

The True Power of Opportunity (w/ Ian Stanley) | RTB#10

"Hi You're listening to the road to a billion podcast. I'm your host stuff in Georgia since two thousand eleven I've sold over seven hundred million dollars worth of products for both clients. My own companies I've also founded or CO founded eight different businesses that grows between seven to nine figures in revenue today I focus a lot of my time on teaching training a mentor in the next generation of freelancers and entrepreneurs, and that's why created the road. To a billion, a call in radio show style podcast where I answer people's questions on mindset business ownership scaling, funnels, copywriting and more. If you want to admit a question, then check out the show. So learn how or visit me at Stephan Paul George Dot com forward slash subscribe to opt into my email list and every week you'll get a link to join the live call in show and with that being said, let's go ahead and get started. Hey you're listening to two billion. PODCASTS, I'm your host Jeff. Georgia, and I'm glad to have you with me here today the row two billion is a call in radio show where you can ask me questions about freelancing copywriting entrepreneurship mindset scaling funnels, relationships, money, and more than name Roy two billion comes because I will probably hit a billion dollars in sales this year for my own products in those of my clients and I my goal is to make an. Impact in the lives of a billion people in the next ten years that really looks like a impact for them emotionally mentally and financially. So mindset making more money dealing more emotionally stable things of that nature will start taking calls in about five minutes from now, and like I mentioned to take your questions for them into the Q. and A. Section in Zoom here, and then Ed Ray will be reviewing those questions in Phoenix, to myself into an Stanley. Have entered himself in just a second for I. do that Ed, Do you Wanna go ahead and say hi to everybody I'm. And FACEBOOK copywriter. I enjoy. and. Helping Hostess podcasts. Sure. Sometimes, it is sometimes either shirtless the time, but he decided to to graceless a tank tops today. So you know it is what it is a mixed bag here with a on the road to a billion and a in Stanley is my dear friend special guests co-creator of freelancer freedom, which is a free lancing course that we just released this morning But beyond that just an amazing person and do you Wanna go ahead and introduce yourself say hi to everybody. Sure. Yeah. You know I really WanNa. Do I wanna read your intro in my radio guy voice that sounds Fun To me but have you you know you're copy but the road to a billion podcast with Steph and Georgie. Is Like and put it into the I can put the first. Superior. Chaffee. UK Eagles Horse. All all in jail do my radio Voice, and then you can use this as a clip later if you wanted to sound just like you had some really Dushi Radio Guy. Hey you're listening to the road to a billiad cast. I'm your host Stephan Georgie and I'm glad to have you here with me today. The road to a billion is a call in radio show where you can ask me questions about freelancing copywriting entrepreneurship mindset scaling funnels relationships money in straight up making it rain cash. Thank you for being here. Made the last lineup. Nowadays but. I think that's my that's really my future I. Think I might need to quit everything else be a radio DJ and being American. Radio DJ maybe get one of those buttons that makes noises. You know like they do on the really high clashes. Definitely I think that's a really good idea. Hi Steffan Georgie. In Stanley I'm huffing this American person which means everybody thinks I'm Australia. I have written some copying. My life sold over one hundred, million dollars worth of stuff. So I'm just you know on one eighth or so the man that Stephan is in that regard and I've sold I sold my company when I was twenty, seven, twenty, eight, just ten. Thirty last month and pretty good freelancing and teaching people how to make more money and less time while having more thought and freelancing. One of the ways that help people do that, which is one superstock that Stephan I launched this cost today, which is that freelance of freedom costs dot com is where we up we would I haven't sent the link. Live apparently emailed Myla's with the long two thousand word email and a link, and then I got a reply from Justin Golf links not working for me and said well Shit. But? I. Don't know that I recently link outsource out but yeah, we're live I have no idea honestly I'm still. Still says coming soon, freelance a freedom costs dot com. I will put the like the checkout for him. There we're gonNA tell you. Yes isn't going to turn into like A. And our Jason Chen, my man. We're not gonNA like you know the the call, the point of the shows they stay the same but we are, of course going to tell you a little bit more about the course in what's in it 'cause we're fucking excited about it. Honestly. I really am I'm super soak to see what happens over the next thirty days. So these people And actually I want to answer that question right away because it's super important most important question the day why do most list copyright has had the bid? It's been proven in multiple scientific studies double-blind. The CBO studies that having had does make you more successful. So it's really just a necessity. The other trick to being a-list copyright is to have a name that is difficult to pronounce. So you know Perez Lamb propolis David Deutsch, and if it's hub, how to pronounce at least make sure it's odd to spell. Stephan Gail. Georgie. Yeah. As those by you know Ian Stanley actually probably on the easiest side of. You know the spelling of the lowest copywriters but I think a lot of them have A. It's that's kind of one of the other tricks is just make sure people council name. Ed Gary Driven Star. Langa I Miss I miss like I stumbled on Gary Benson beggars name one time on alive thing and everyone just laughed so hard it was like I said I don't know like Donald Trump trump or something and people are like that's not his name and I was really embarrassed by it but. You know it's a hard name to. Like Frank Kern has it easy man franker and just like he does art that one up. CAN TYPE IN FRANK DOT com. So easily they know how it's spelled. Differing you provide my email yesterday talking. So I email yesterday about the copywriter, a hater on me. And like I got replies somebody big guns from that like Craig Clemens replied current applied bring currencies like good job taken lemons and turning them into Lebanon aid like thanks for Kern very frank common. Franken stars. I had never met Franken in person before. he was it Wa- room in. Austin and I went there and I was with the side and he was like a puppy and I just I wasn't in the event. But I I showed up in francs there and he stomachs this woman Laurie Taylor and he's like, okay nice to meet your needs like. I mentioned before Man I. Know I know we met and I was like, Oh, nine I know that we haven't met but it says Egos no man. I met you I you know you you look down familiar I, know I know you. And I said. No I I know that you don't. So I don't know how many other ways to say that Laurie Taylor goes. Oh, he does those lie Topaz videos the you know the parody videos and the can't Cardona. Oh I seen those he goes A. Toddler, call yet and I was like, no, he hasn't but we were on stage together and that was my basically my full frank experience and told him, I, said I WANNA do a video called between two sons. Instead of between two funds and I want him to be modern day short hair suit. Frank and then I want to get a blonde wig and do old school long hair. Blonde frank and do a between two sons and I I, think people would absolutely love that ship. Uh very strong idea. Everyone's talking about how to pronounce my name, which is just Stephan Jauregui. But you know I don't even end doesn't say correct. So injustice. Correct I say Stephan Nine, the George I though you say Georgia. People hate when people do this I go. How do I say last name probably out however you want I said no how do you want me to say I'm not trying to say I hate. I Hate I hate when people go like newest your name man because I'm like I don't really care 'cause like it's going to get mispronounce anyway. So I don't know. But you're not allowed to do. I'm going to tell you the biggest mistake I ever made was telling like. Advocate, quick story on this and then we agree I hope this this goes spreads and like that's the thing now. Thanks Ian. fucking every couple of years and just posting every couple of years like he made a fake tagline for like a ED supplement that I had back in the day where he said is a Christian arousal supplement for men and women, and he said that he made a joke that my tagline was bringing God into your life into your wife and the tagline. And then after. Ill to this day, one of the best ones ever written. Ever says that people years later, I'd go talk to people. Like Oh. Yeah. The supplement bring God into your life into your wife that was brilliant and I'm like, that's not actually the tagline. Imagine how much money you would have made if he didn't get the tag one, I, know you know I probably I probably blew it but. Yeah, and then that one story is like I had a European history teacher who's from Lake Chuckle. Something in college and we were talking and he's like. You know your last name like you say, you say George I and I'm like, yeah, he's like that's not right and I'm like, what do you mean like you know that's an Eastern European name and ski orgy and I was like Oh my God we've always said George I he's like no, your family saying it wrong it's Georgi. Aussie even if that was actually the correct way to say I, would never take that into. A change my name to step gay orgy. So Bush crazy that you last name is also your favorite thing. You know that's what's interesting basket. Gifts. You know when not only your las something that you truly love to do. TOOLS STANLEY TO ACCOMPANY BOOM You are a tool says perfect and I am a tool. So I was named after a tool company fulfilled on that it is funny because I remember that story that you told me the whole story and that's how I remember. But now when I talked to a Syrian I call you I'll say I'll say hit the button whatever my car Nicole Stephon Stephan. Georgie she goes calling Stephan Georgi. And so each time I'm like, I, can't help but be reminded. Of this, I'm glad that people during our rose session, we haven't gone to any value yet I know but this is what people people don't want if you've seen how podcast trending right now. The ones that are growing the biggest followings have tend to have like a comedian involved because it makes it entertaining. It's like you're not information's great, but you want to be entertained along the way. So it seems like everybody's absolutely loving it. They're not nobody's like. Go share this on your facebook page right now. If you having fun go tell everybody to go join this register you having a good time and you know get even more people on hit a laugh with us. Hundred percent if everyone watching it on facebook live again. Hello. Glad you. Got To learn how to the real way to say my last name you know everyone's been saying wrong this whole time we are going to get into as in just a second here. Usually. On this show, I do a kind of an opening monologue. I'll keep this pretty short but I wanNA just briefly talk about selling that was on my mind, which is one thing that I. Love About Digital Marketing and this whole role that we live in, and that's the fact that it really is a Bertozzi meaning that you can rise based on your merits and that is what is ultimately the most important reason this came up because yesterday I was interviewing some executive assistant. Candidates hiring the executive assistant here in San. Diego. And I mentioned it to one of the one of the candidates. She's twenty two years old she talked about her age and how her age. Could be like a an issue for her exacerbate something like spent a setback or something that maybe. You've had in your career Safari County overcome it and she talked about her age and people looking at her age and not wanting her to dangerous too young for a job or position and talked about how in our world as really doesn't matter Crecy it's about who you are and what you do in the value bring and all that and how just incredible that is, and then I, went to dinner last night with my friend Amber Speier's alona WHO's. A partner in her business in her best friend and my wife and we talked about it again, amber unsolicited the mentioned how meritocracy in this in this industry to and I just love that because like you've got people like Ed is whatever it is twenty secretly twelve. Shura Sixteen can do sixteen David lucious sixteen Christian I think is like Eighteen Hadley out of his on his dude, he's eighteen all these young people and then older people to right you can. You can be sixteen or you can be sixty. It doesn't matter like if you are committed and you're really going for it in this industry, you can have success and I just love that. So I just wanted to celebrate that and and what everyone think about that from a mindset perspective and how lucky we are to be in an industry where your age. Doesn't matter your race doesn't matter your gender doesn't matter your sexual orientation doesn't matter none of those things matter it really isn't meritocracy. There's I mean there's not going to be like kind of extra obstacles certain people face. Sure. But like I, look at my whole contingent of Nigerians who are fucking crushing it all the Indians who are crushing it like all the people all the there crushing it, and I just want to be really explicit to and say this 'cause I woke up at one thirty in the morning last night I got about like ten thinking about this. I to say this on my show today, which is I want people who are watching this who listen to the recording on I tunes or whatever to know that. Truly what we're doing here is like an inclusive environment. So thrilled. Every single one of you on here. If you're young like I, want to be the person for you in what I don't feels the same way I know at us you you're sixteen, Fifteen, fourteen, eighteen. I don't care I want to be the person for your sixty or seventy or eighty I want to be the person for you. If you're gay, I will be the person for you. If you're straight on the person for you, I don't care like you wherever you are whatever race you are like I am here to support you and help you and I just want to be really walking explicit about that. Because I know I think implied my Italians. I love you guys I know just for president but I'm not doing that I just WanNa be really true man like I want you to know I want to be explicit and just say and have that invitation to anyone who watches this or listens or who interacts with me that like you're welcome and I want you to feel really comfortable I want you to feel like you can express yourself and you can be a part of what we're building. So I, know it's a little bit hokey and stuff like that I guess but I just really wanted to share that before we get started. Question the second but yeah I figured you might WanNa help I'll just make a comment on that. Is that I think no matter what age you are. You have tendency to compare yourself to people your age and depending on who you decide to compare yourself to your always gonNa feel. Either good or bad about that comparison but you all your own person you're on your own path taking your own time to do it, and if you look at a lot of the most successful people stay out, there are a lot of them did make money till the. Thirties forties you know they didn't have. You just didn't see that twenty to forty stretch where they were I mean John Carlton is become a close friend of mine into an a mentor to me I remember reading his stuff was twenty nine when he was still a a waste of space you know sleeping on couches and You know do whatever and he's crushed the rest of his life after that. Ten thirty last month, which a lot of people is this big. Ordeal and and was like it's you know I look at people people from the outside can look and go. Well, you said, you've you've you've had a lot of success in all sorts of things that I could also look at my life and I could go whatever lens you compare yourself to other people through. That's what's GonNa make you. Feel good or bad about where you're at. But the whole thing is to let go of the comparisons because I can look and go. Well, look they're a twenty five year olds already acting in movies and doing stand up and have a net flicks special and here I am I have no Netflix special. I have no real thirty in the wildest end of comedy and you know not just turned thirty but. Then I know Louis C. K. a lot of thirty to thirty eight, the real reality is a lot of stand up is you gotta develop an actual worldview and no offense to add ray or anybody else. But by twenty, you don't have that much of a view. You haven't experienced that much shit to really have you do have one but it gets better and better over the next ten years and so. You know I can look at that and then I can also go I needed to go through all of the experiences that I've gone through along with the deeper emotional done about surrender in the therapy and the things that I've done in order to become the person that can be can excel much further down the road now that I'm taking that seriously if I become famous. At twenty five is all I. Know What my life would have been like it would have been would have just been women and bodies and fun, and that could have spiraled into all sorts of other things that would have been great life but to actually have your shit together by the time you start succeeding as a lot it's going to keep a much more stable growth at. So. You never to all the two young Colonel Sanders was like ninety eight. Legitimately sixty seven or something when he started Kathy. So any knocked on my one, hundred thousand dollars or something before somebody was like, all right I'll take you blend of herbs and spice Ray KROC was in his. Late forties or fifties when he basically franchise McDonald's for the first time. Example. Basically. Secret. Go just just create diabetes people get the free lesson course we're we're GONNA do. Yeah. Just opened up a fast food chain and then take it nationwide Mary Kay started a new live super fast food. It's even faster than fast food. Okay. So John Capron Assira. So answer a couple of questions and then want to share a bit about freelancer freedom but let's hop in answer a few questions first, and then we'll do a little fancier freedom break and then we'll go back to answering questions. At Ray, who do we have for? OUR FIRST QUESTION Well. First Person We have op is Kim you do and we do. Joe Is asked the best questions. So she us also any co host. I'll my gosh okay. So So, can we ask what are the biggest mistakes when reaching out to clients? Different question. What's up kimmy great high in high add how you doing Lou. Great. Also. Yeah. I'm wondering. What are the biggest mistakes you've seen when reaching out to clients? For sure. In Yoga I are you want go? If you've got some mind up I've got something. So I took two. Of Yeah I mean you can I is there a special guest biggest thing? My biggest thing stores is generic reach out I can tell you within. Ten seconds. That's a lie within three seconds at this is generic reach out if I, if I open up my email, right? By metalitz attached. INSTAGRAM accountant because you get to a certain amount of followers, you basically just get. Bombarded with people reaching out to you, and I can give you a couple of examples of sort of the difference of of what can happen as a meal. Every day I don't even read all these message requests of people like get the blue badge. Hey, we can grow your instagram. Hey, it's the same bullshit. Had One guy. He Goes Hey man I looked at your coun-. Love you videos. You know could stuff. I'd love to help you grow your accounting. Okay. What? What's your? What's your favorite video? Takes. I liked that one where you on a boat and I was like what was favorite line from that video what made you laugh most about that? And then you know he's not goddamn ounce supposed to go actually watch this guy's stuff. Yes. You are the difference between the people who succeed in the ones that is these three minute the willingness to do three minutes of research on a client. If your average clients with at thousand five, thousand, ten, fifty, thousand dollars, it's worth a three minutes to actually get to know the person. and. So what I see all the time of these generic reach outs and they go will I change the name I don't give a shit. If you said my name, you can find the name anyway. Actually take a minute. You can have template close right of like this is what I do for people that are the duck but. Actually taking the first three to five sentences to write something. Genuinely. Personal to that cousin about like Hey I saw this on your side I really liked this pot about what she said about this. And I also have six kids and a wolf dog or what have you know? Obviously, I'm not saying to people have got whatever. But if you see something that you guys have in common, it's like you put that in my a by the way I you know I see that you live in California I grew up in thousand oaks. Just. These little things that make you a pesident because what a lot of us are looking for is now Stephan become people that hire freelancers and people. We. Look at the is this real peasant? Do they have the were the willingness to just send something actually personal one gun instagram he sent me a video and he was like you. Out Step made me laugh a lot like really great stuff go about ten seconds, fifteen seconds and then head. This is what I do I help you this if you're interested at all, not no worries. I've responded to him because he took the time to record a thirty second video. That Showed that he did research now did that take him three to five minutes instead of ten seconds? Was It automated? No but he's ten times more likely to get the client than these other people. And, the other thing this is a really bad experience. I recently had that I that I think is really was sharing. I had this guy he reached out to US support and he was like, Hey, you know congratulations on getting fifteen thousand followers on facebook like that's awesome. which also that like along done, it's like okay and then he's like you know I love you products and stuff. I. Recently helped a guy launch We did a launch together and we did one, hundred, ninety, six, thousand, a week. I had sixty four thousand followers on Youtube. I'd love to talk to you about how do we do something together. Now I thought. Okay. This seems real this guy did and I'm thinking he did like launch this dude where they did like a JV and they did one, hundred, ninety, six thousand and he's got all these followers. Okay. I'll bite. So set up a call with him like went back and forth and he was in, you know Europe. So it was eight hours ahead and I broke my normal rule I don't do calls before like ten or eleven am that's like the absolute earliest identical at eight am to make it work his assistant is on the call. She's the an as she's talking to me. She doesn't she. She does all the small talk I have no idea why on the call what the pair who she is a what's going on? and. Then I look at his youtube account, he's got sixty, four thousand dollars but each video has two hundred views, which means that it's all bullshit subscribers. And his launch he did was nine months hope with somebody else's list and I was like I told her I was like I don't mean to be rude to you but I was GonNa talk to I'm not GonNa talk to their assistant when I don't know this person and they haven't demonstrate any value given me anything I said this leads very bad taste in my mouth and I would recommend that you guys changed the way you're doing things because if you're. If you're low if not as far along as the person, you're trying to get in contact with you do not sending assistant to vet that person. You show the fuck up and you do the call yourself and I was like it was a really example though of how did not do things so don't lie to people give them all this stuff, and if you last success was ten months ago. Don't say I just had this thing happen it's like. Jesus. What do you like this? It was all basically bullshit. and. But if you take a lesson from his from his message to me, there was something personal that used he then demonstrated social proof through his following and what he had done. And then made it seem like we could work together on something and so he actually did a good job with that but then you know terrible follow up and execution. On the actual sort of thing that he had said. Yeah, those are awesome answers and I was going to mention follow up as well because saying we talk about a lot. We have a really good case study in freelancer freedom of course that we just dropped today where I'm showing what to do and what not to do. It's an example of somebody who did a really good job of falling up with me, and then completely dropped the ball in a different way in just said. But it's pretty staggering. So I continue to follow up just today Who Was it today WHO Somebody had been hitting me up to try and give me the testses evoke rate of Mama. S.. U. A. A he's. Ten Times last time send ago but had been on my mind. So than today, hooked him up with somebody from our team and like a was a K., can you go through these and check them out goodwill testimony similar whatever and had been in my mind to do it I just didn't like. He had to fall by ten times with me, and finally a manager got to respond to this guy I. I will say this to it strategy right reach out to people and provide value in advance you should. But like I'm not the best target for it, I get hit with the so freaky much. Example me doing it but you have to understand if I'm the one teaching the strategy like so many people are hitting me up about this. That like and I don't I don't actually control the copy for most of my offers like right stuff and look over it but I'm not actually the right person. So just say a friendly kind of notice that like I'm not going to be the best the most responsive person but I literally hear from people constantly. To got wins by doing that strategy. And I'll. I'll quickly just say on that note shadow to actually show on may be on the call he he's gone through the income skill stuff and he then Like sent these videos to us to look at and these emails and seven I if there's one thing you do it's it's standout and be different in be willing to take risk ano-, Jake blue who just came to my house on. Tuesday for a private consulting. Day. He sent thirty three DM's to someone. Before he got them to respond to now he's working with them like that's Pecinin. That's what actually Stephanie haven't seen this yet. But in the the sales page that we're GONNA put up tomorrow for the close. But I said I think this one module on follow-up is worth a thousand dollars itself because it's the difference up is the difference between making zero dollars or thousands a month, and it's the Difference Between Five K amounts and fifteen twenty months because the reality is people like stepping tonight who are hiring people. We don't want to respond to and we may even be reading your stuff but I just maybe in the middle of something, I may get a phone call I may get a taxed I may just look at it and forget to respond, and honestly what I really want is I don't want to respond to message not an ego thing or I'm better than that but I want to see if you have the you know the the the drive to reach out again, and again that's the person I want to hire. For me. When my phone's connected, I got disconnected obnoxiousness basically. that. Just that simple act of of demonstrating that you're willing to follow up separates you from almost everyone but the thing is gonna say about what Shawn's them. Take a risk and really really stay. Sean. That's awesome I. Didn't know that he just started with a new client for one of these videos. He has like his hair in A. Towel tied up and he's like talking about all this crazy stuff in his subject lines and things just like wild like take a risk. It's better to hear no than to hear nothing at all and you be willing to do so even to Stephan if you do the same cookie cutter Shit. Yet you'RE NOT GONNA stand out. So focus on, it's better to be different than it is to be better and it's easier to be different than it is to be better in the number. One rule of all now getting in my opinion is don't be boring, don't be another me too product be another me too. You know person sending out the same instagram growth giveaway thing that I've seen sixty five times. So Keisha said does anyone else feel like being persistent will come across as annoying? Yeah. I think a lot of people feel that way but it is something you can have to just get past like it's. As totally mental hang up on on your end is understandable but the day people who are busy like, lyceum, does that mean that nobody will ever get annoyed by you know for sure some people will get annoyed by you but like who cares it's identity it's like a numbers game. It's like a reach out game for it's just like if anything with sales, right like if you any sales organization like the reason, they make you dial one hundred people people in those jobs suck right. But you have is the other day somebody actually says, yes I, mean, an who's ever done sales has noticed the exact that exact thing they talk about the dating world, right? It's. A numbers game I mean for whatever. But like same thing with with with all this, you just have to be okay of kind of pounding the. Pavement a little bit and really just. Being comfortable there and it's an it's their own triggering got understand to that dealing with somebody may respond back to you like a total also, and if he were to talk to them again, they would say, well, actually I got your email right after my wife yelled at me and I took it out on you. This is extremely common for almost everyone But beyond that, the cool thing is this is something to understand too is you may have to be soup assistant on in your career. But that stops having to be thought of what you do to that degree the Pacific Stephanie Nine. Now it might be, Hey, man just wanted to circle back on this see if you wanted to do it. And you do that once or twice it's a reminder whereas when you're starting out, you know it may be you may be willing to send messages and it may be annoying to someone. But to that same person who is annoying another business owner who goes I'm hiring you only because you sent me ten messages that's why I'm hiring you like that's that is the trick honest who wants it more and it's it is similar to dating John. where The reality is the most guys they're trying to. Go and just talk to enough girls that you know one of them will say, yes and like. I haven't been single for awhile, but I used to teach dating my first businesses teaching dating boot camps. When you get into a certain place in your life like you're really what it comes down to is loving yourself. You actually it stops being a numbers game and it starts being pretty much to everyone you meet. With like to be with you. And that may sound super arrogant as that came across bills. If you don't believe that was the point I remember when I was teaching dating stuff my buddy goes. Do. You think that? Just any go you meet you. You could be with US hundred percent. He's like, what does it get whether? It's true announced bulletin. It just matters that I believe that because it ends up creating that reality and when you believe that about yourself as a copywriter, a lot of this stuff is a freelance. It comes down to your own self west. Do you feel well, do you have high with judging rates? You feel well. Obviously needs by the way Stephan I have gone to add to freelance a freedom that I didn't tell you about it created new meditation on Tuesday for how to charge high prices because the most the biggest issue people charging high prices is not. That, they aren't worth it. It's that they don't feel wealthy and so you have to shift your tunnel environment so that you feel well, the those prices I created this new meditation that helped shift that inside of you to improve yourself with. Around add that in his a that'll be a bonus for the product. It's not. On the sales page or anything yeah. That's amazing. That's awesome. It is funny because another thing I wrote down was competence right but like then you really expounded upon what that what that looks like one one more quick thing on this and then we'll we'll tackle some more questions of course Differentiate yourself or setting yourself apart. So going back to how I'm hiring executive assistant and I did these. Zoom interviews and then scheduled impersonations and for. One of the candidates only safar at the end of the the zoom interview she was like Do you WanNa give me some kind of test assignment between now and when we do the in person I was like, Oh yeah, that's a good idea I guess you want to move into a new office and you WanNa like you know give it all furnished decked out right So why don't you just sort of? Give that to me as an assignment like the Info on the office and I can go through and kind of get some design concepts, pricings out for you and show you what it would look like I said. All right. Cool. So then I did I shot her loom video where I showed a Like. The pictures of the of the an empty office and they had a detour. So I kinda showed the different rooms talked about what I wanted gave her a ballpark budget I was obviously you know we can't just do this virtually will have to do like a walk through whatever, and then within twenty four hours a night like the the next afternoon, a video from her couple. Cool things. First of all of loom video, she's like this is the same one who's twenty two Right she's like, I've never used before but I saw you used it. So I got it inside I, use it to you. So be easy for you since you already work with loom as a great. Then she's like evernote she's like I have never used evernote before, but I want to catch myself. So I organized stuff in Evernote Initi- literally hand drew or do you want her IPAD or a tablet like the blueprints of the office than uploads evernote as she went through and? She had like the furnishings for every room different concepts, images, pulled all these different options had them priced out had different design concepts like had mapped out to where I could see this whole office as incredible thing and I? She did all of that like on Wednesday and she had a Tuesday night and had her first yesterday and then the other candidate I had the person yesterday was really great as well. I mean who knows they may watch this video so they both are. Excellent. But the fact that the one candidate went through all that extra sauce in the Idaho took her an hour or two but the job pays like thirty an our star we'll pay more and it's like it's hard not to hire the one who did that extra work but she created that opportunity for herself right? Because she was like, what can I do before this interview you know give me a task and then she provides crazy value. So it's really hard for me. I already know what working with her is going to be like because she answered an objection for me by doing that. That was a really cool unique an intelligent things she did. So I wanted to share that with people because I thought it was so smart. It's feelings in advance right? Can you create the feelings that you want the into experience before they actually buy something? So can you send them a three minute video? Going over their sales page saying and you do this compliment sandwich thing which we talk about more in depth than in the workshop is basically you like, Hey, I really like this part of the sales page I think this needs work is what I would change and I also like this. So they get this nice comment than they get the sort of Russia truth in any get another compliment, and then they feel good walking away from it. and that that works really well, but creating feeling in advance of like Oh, this person doesn't know what they're talking about. They just gave me but go ahead and change this and use this for free in now. But if you want to hire me and have me write the whole thing and make it better than you know, let me know. But that's a total differentiator of demonstrating the feelings in advance. They get this feeling of like Oh man this really doing. One hundred percent. So I want to go to more questions a sick a second here. We obviously, we kinda rift on this awhile, but I think it's a really a topic. We're both really passionately beloved as we're good night great comments. One hundred percent knows it's awesome and I would say this is the quick little plug for free answer freedom is if you like this, then you should get fiance freedom. Of course, we put out the first module has a forty five minute conversation between all about mindset. So we literally start the course with mindset. But, if you don't know anything about this course, basically in the naive member of twenty nineteen. Well actually was revised to the summer in the summer of two thousand nineteen we ran to shot of a bar in new. York and we talked about how learning to each other. I. Ran into you from behind news. My Batman boys to scale you while putting his finger into my back to imitate erect penis. So knows really on g Jesus Oh so time I thought you were pretending knows of. Note. Genuinely No. No. The Southeast Asia sloppy that to not becoming a thing I really don't want gay orgy spreading. So annoyed. So. Annoyed. Stephan is all your fault. You're the one who said I Either way basically I'd Say Dushi but whatever basically like I'd flown to New York on a private jet because of like some traveling issues and I told Yan man, I'd really like to fly back Vegas on a private jet but that's a big investment you know and probably not worthwhile or whatever, and it was like well, why don't we just sort of create content on the jet and then? We'll make it worthwhile. That's idea with what could we do and I was Guam really passionate about freelance in Nian was really pash about freelancing too. So like okay what do we do this? What if we created content on the flight and what is talk about freelancing mindset entrepreneurship business everything, and then we'll do live event like a little bit later in the year and You we can basically pay for the jet that way, which is exactly what we did. And we came up with this little Hook, two of the introvert extrovert system for freelancing because. So much of the freelancing advice and I I think it's of the most underserved markets that exist. It's really there's not a lot of great advice out there. There's people who like maybe they got the ten k. a month is a freelancer, and then they created a call us about how to be a freelancer or most likely and most often landed one client, and then created a course on how to land clients. And so it's you know for us it's like you know everybody's got a different personality. So you have to use the strategies that fit into your specific pesonality me. I'm very extra vetted I like to meet people and talk to people have met. Most of the people I've worked with I've at least talked to them on the phone whereas Stephens over half of his clients he's not even talked on the phone and they're paying fifty thousand dollars from some emails. which is a pretty a pretty big. Deal for somebody to do and so which is also one of the cool spouts about this product is we've got this fifteen case studies from people at how got clients and how they've grown from there, which means you have fifteen different personality types of people that you can go and pick the one that you resonate with most implement that strategy which by the way Stephan and I both had zero. Guidance or templates or case studies to follow when we started out in, this would have accelerated our journey so much faster to be able to find the people who. You know. To be able to follow case studies of exactly how to get clients instead, we did it our own. Unique, way. And that's what's really cool. You've got fifteen different ways that you can land that first client land more clients that a really. All Work and it's just they all work. You just want to pick the one that's GonNa work best for you. Yeah, a hundred percent I mean that's what's really cool. So there's like Kay said, he's on getting high level clients on din. There's a like in-person like the kind of networking marketing. There is getting thousand dollar an hour gigs on five or. Their stuff on upward in freelancer instagram can do as a case study. Leanne has a case study stuff about how to get clients about portfolio how to go organic lease through social media. There's all this stuff about how to cold prospect His citizens are two point for buying the course You know it is not over two point. Oh but then at the day we launched, of course today, we're going to tell you about it because we're excited about change laugh. Yeah. Exactly so You know, but it isn't obligation if it's valuable, somebody is an obligation so. Yeah. So we fifteen case studies on it, and then we have the recordings about events. We did this I have a bent. We basically stood out everything was like twenty one videos on it, but basically everything from how to find your dream. So basically, if part one, for case studies is like if you never got a client before you're getting clients but it's inconsistent and you wish you could bring in more clients and have less of a struggle less of the feast and famine cycle all that kind of stuff. These case as will help you pick one of them or two of them, and then just stick with that implement that strategy in you will get clients It'd be shocked if you don't, and then once you do that at that point then if you will try some additional strategies, even more pipelines in ways that you're bringing in clients. Cool. Go for it. But the next part is what we taught at the live training, which is a higher level stuff right? How to not have vampire clients how did not avoid all these traps it normally happen how to. Escalate what you charge dramatically, how to do that while working fewer hours, how to make your own luck how to have clients coming to you be the referral question in like you want to add in some of stuff that you talked about as well but we did all hasn't yet I mean one of the one of the big things I went super deep into his. Is How to get lucky and how to how to actually haunt US luck people think of luck is this thing that exists is this sort of serial intangible object that exists out there that you either have local you don't or if this random thing, the reality is there I break down and it gets now seven different types of luck with the course of five types. The the first. Stephan. Weaken Chelsea ten thousand for the goal rather way. Man That's Not a problem will accept, but basically, you know this is something. People really don't think about as with lucky of your first type of Glock, which is literally just statistical chance luck. It's a tornado hit hitting a certain area to certain time. It's the fact that you're driving at this time he ran into this personal it's even looking at you know Stephan an I running into each other obviously already friends and all this. But literally out front of this box that we were going into, which actually leads into the second pot of the second type of block, which is called exposure lock, and whenever you starting adding any new endeavor, you want to increase your stimuli on your exposure in order to increase the opportunities that you can land something that's going to. You know create money only. Now. Basically, starting out, it's about increasing chaos chaos the more exposure, the more chances for luck as you become more successful if he comes about saying no, and it becomes without reducing chaos. So as you starting out the you want to. Create all this exposure, your third type of blockage, and I go way in depth this. But this pattern recognition and the fifth type is what I call. Only you luck and that's the type of block that's created when you are the type of unique individual people seek out and one of the great examples that Navarro Robbie Count gives about this is you know if you're a deep sea diver and you become known as the world's best deep sea diver, what happens is you now just sit? Back and you know you do whatever you want. You don't seek anyone. You don't seek out any jobs or anything, but some random doesn't find some tra-. You know they know that this treasure off the coast of wherever and that was that was chance luck that they just found this treasure now because it's only you that could do it. They high of this one deep sea diver, who's the best to go find the that treasure, and now that person makes millions or tens of millions hundreds. Just because they became this only you unique individual when somebody goes I need a supplement esl to crush it. Who is the first president that gets brought to that? Mind it Stephan Joji Georgia and? The reason for that is because Stephan, has created this only you luck if somebody wanted to create a parody video for that product or they want to create a funny esl that has comedy infused into that. WHO's to do it? It's GonNa be me or they're going to go to the Haman brothers they're going to go. It's like that's there's only a couple of people in the world and so becomes only you look. So instead of me seeking clients, you become the type of person who people find and and it's it's instead of you finding money money finds you in it's a very dramatic shift, but I behold Allah in this. Product on how to do this the steps to go through how to create that, and it still comes back to the same idea to is of how to not be boring and actually. Say all add this to in is all add one I've a four pod newsletter on had not be boring but altered the first Putt into the causes wall as another bonus is I. Think it's so incredibly important to not be boring and I give you actual strategies in another way to think about this is that. You know if you see a guy on a UNICYCLE, well, that's interesting. You see there at a circus. Well, that's interesting but she see a bad riding a UNICYCLE. Now that's really interesting. Interesting is the opposite of boring and you create. An interesting on. Boring. Content ideas by combining things that aren't supposed to be combined when you ask somebody to said squatty potty when you're talking about ice cream and gold, you don't think poop. But when you mix poop with ice cream and gold, you literally stopped printing money, which is what they did. So you can always create these seemingly. Non Combining things combined them together to create something really unique and that's where you know over time. You start to become the person that people go I know I want this done and they know exactly who it is and you may only have fifty people know who you are. But those fifty people are all willing to pay you a hundred thousand dollars. and that's not unrealistic. That's very possible. You know if you become that unique of an individual so that you know that's just one piece I'm working on the book about luck I'm also I'm actually going to release the had an be boring as its own book because I think it's really important the people but but I mean, that's just a small pot Stephan going you know I think one of the big things is like I mean was lost on US sold out at client Steph. it's been several years. Yeah. So imagine that is your future reality right like. You you get to move forward and right now you may seek a love. I can see Stephanie trying to figure out the last. Yeah, I can't remember. Yeah Day just come to you and these on ten thousand dollars. These people paying fifty thousand dollars up front as a minimum to work with Stephan, and that's what happens when you create only you lock when you become the type of us in the money finds instead of the type of person is trying to find money. and. So we go really deep into that. So I mean and also results wise. We had somebody who has biggest month coming into the event was six thousand dollars a few months. Later he did his first thirty, thousand dollars a month we add multiple people quit their jobs do of a ten k. a month like the results speak for themselves, and that was just from the one day in person training that doesn't include any of the bonuses we've added that doesn't include the case studies or any of that other stuff. And so it's you know it's a really it's it's really exciting to see people even event and genuinely change their life, and that's why Stephan and I don't have any shame about being BMI. You should go by this because we know what will happen for you if you do it and if you implement it One hundred percent I'm GONNA. Put the Lincoln as far as Webinar two point Oh. But as the checkout for people who are washing if you wanna grab it and you should one other thing I'll say and I promised you do get back to you and as so we'll get back in just a minute but I'm The. Lucky enough to me. It's funny because honestly I was kind of skeptical that I was going to think that I was going to enjoy that own it. And then I ended up just writing pages and pages of notes furiously. It actually had a lot of stuff that help click even the chaos phase was so interesting to me as someone who was in going out to build because I was basically is I launched my email lists and started my you know personal brand I don't think I even had my Malysz yet at that point I watched it in December But that idea of being as I'm doing something new I should have more exposure to chaos create came in just like let these things row around me in sort of like. You know be open to all that and I've done that really a lot for the last year since then and even. Whether podcast, I'll go on pretty much. Any podcast offers me to go on facebook lives and all that stuff but then is cool. 'cause like now is stuff like this week I found out that I'm doing a like a TV interview on the show called the list, which is a nationally syndicated TV show on Monday I'm being interviewed by business insider on Tuesday. So it's like all of this sort of chaos is happening happen but through all that all people are reaching now. Sort of the the Roland is becoming a tornado, right? It's like its own little funnel forums is look at it right and so now is going get a little bit narrow narrower in and who knows they can another year maybe like good morning America or like Oprah or the Tim Ferriss show or whatever. But really was like you have to be open to that chaos first and then it sort of funnels himself naturally. So I loved it Tornado just made up that Tornado Metaphor but It's it's really interesting. I think it's worth one one or two more minutes on this I think it's really valuable for people but the funny Saito Tomato because I told you. I think you're a you're in like A. Tax, or money tornado right now whether you're just it's like you're this tornado and money's just like. Getting pulled into it and I feel like I'm having a similar experience right now and that's why I said the seventy two tornadoes just You know formed one Super Tornado what would happen and that's part of what we're doing with this. But the this idea of chaos is also it's important to acknowledge the existence of ego within this concept of chaos because when you've already succeeded at something, right so I've had good success in the world of business. It would be easy for me to be like well I don't WanNa just go do standup sets for free and do open mics under this. I'm successful elsewhere that's bullshit that would be a pure ego move. You have to start out as a beginner and accept yourself that you're beginning at everything at all times you have to keep keep that begin his mind. But when it comes to stand up. So when it comes to business, what I've been doing is reducing chaos because I'm further along and in stand up I know that I. have to expand chaos and that's why I'd moved to La. Now I'm up in Boise you can stand ups really not a thing right now but it's it's that I view. All of the world is every city you live in is a pinball machine and every group you join us as pinball machine in Austin Texas was where I lived before was his pinball machine with three or four. Campbell's bouncing around at any given time. You leave your house you do something you may run into one of these pinballs in something. Good happens. La Is like twenty pinballs going off at once your chances of success become higher and high. You don't know what random meal you go to somebody's sitting Ne- that ends up being this person who lends fest Netflix show or whatever it might be but it's that it's that willingness to step back be began and expose yourself to chaos and exposure whether you are, and this is where you know if you're sixty as old. While I've done this and this and this, and I don't WanNa be this beginning. Well, you have to accept that as reality if you're just starting out something new just because he succeeded somewhere else doesn't mean that you get to take all of your clout in all of your. Past experiences to be this known person within this new realm, you have to accept yourself as new. York hundred percent. So all right with that being said personally recommend. Yeah highly recommend that you check out the choristers a guarantee follow the stuff you don't get clients you don't get better paying clients you don't change your life then give your money back right I don't really I we made this to help people like on my biggest passions in life. We're GONNA do all kinds of cool shit with later but. Like gold traffic and really try and get more people stuff but A. I. Wish I had it when I was starting out with that being said for now and I, put Lincoln the chat he wants you dead I've been missing you by the way but also I want to answer questions I know that's I. Love doing that on this on this show, and let's go back to to answering some amazing questions I hope that answers your question. All of that. All the question should even though she had already answered. Our next What is the fastest way to get? Really really ridiculously good look I mean good at writing copy. Nice was up Peter. A man how are you you? Didn't get off. There's no. Awesome. There's no, there's no context. Experts. John Different opinions. Maybe I'll say pronounce I'm also I just WanNa say that I just close my biggest retainer deal while McCall's. Pretty Ironic considering you call. Let's go. Whereas list period that's awesome. Yes. So the fastest way to get really good at copy. For me, it would be a practice you have to practice every day. You have to I would read like Cephas working I would review swipes, review controls, review the sales copy that you knows working in today in the classic stuff I personally prefer more stuff from today in the more old school stuff i. think there's value both but like I think some people get so obsessed with these like direct mail pieces from the eighties nineties or whatever. Or even older. Person Crazy stuff. The languages evolved to even sufferers like dear, friend here's a dollar bill like I'm trying to knock on the door building. It's just like different it's different but if you're trying to be successful today the need to look at what's working today so Yeah. Look at copy that like is working today I would be studying it. I be dissecting at analyze the look at what is the structure? Am my seeing commonalities what's the language I really love You know what are they doing that really works and then looking at the next piece of copy that these same things what are these commonalities and then Y-? Oh, we've talked about before but. Again, the the handwriting copying sales letters by hand in is a big advocate of doing it by hand by heading a mistake. Hand Copying and if you're willing to him copy on. Online paper in cursive because it actually helps with spatial awareness vise manure owns in your brain. So you lan faster I just had ed I took through basically a sort of an eighty twenty boot camp of. Improving, I had him hand copying a bunch of my emails and sales figures and stuff. One thing to note for this is that what you should hand copied stuff that I that you're interested in your must you're much more likely to finish hand causing sales that are when you are interested in yourself? Second is don't hand copy stuff. That's only like if you'll just clicking through from email list and you think it's working, it may only be working because it's warm traffic. What I would do is the ads that you get served on facebook and on Youtube and on that click them look at the sales copy enhanced copy those ones that seem to be running in working because that means that they are relevant. Timely and they're working to cold traffic. You do not want to be just hand copy stuff only wax to warm traffic because you're GONNA get a skewed view of what's actually working. I, don't have to ride as good a copy to my list because they're gonNA probably by what I say because I'm saying now something that's working to cold traffic. That's a different thing. If you go to like my book funnel is going to be something that's running to cold traffic. That's something you'd WanNa hand copy because it's working called traffic now in also that I launched my list. handcuffing that may not be beneficial because I'm relying on a lot of trust and relationship that I previously built. So currently working offers that you resonate with in that speak in a voice that that you identify with and the difference between would call them warm traffic cold traffic is like this person's never heard of you or anything about you just seen an ad for the first time in click through the. Sales. Page. So you know warm traffic would be I have an email list in these people open click on emails and they already know me and Mike me and trust me so that much more likely to buy already. So your copy doesn't have to be as good because you already have an established relationship whereas to cold traffic you've got to do all of this work to establish this different trust in south. Before they buy. Awesome. Well you. Appear being greedy is going to hear from yet. Let's go. I would definitely say the take. One person WHO'S Got The copy that you want to write. And just do your best to learn from one person and just go deep with that one person as much as you can until you like you've. Learned as much as you can and do your best to. Get access to them whether that's by. Doing stuff for free for them exchange for like critique on your copy because having a grandmaster like or call allaster tweaking you're copying giving you feedback is better than any book ever teach you. Yeah when I was going over Ed stuff like you know I basically pinpoint what are the one or two things that Ed needs to work on in this moment and for it was really. What I got sandpaper transitions. So a lot of people you write these stories, these correlations, and then they, and then these you transfer you transitioned into that sale and those work those are the best emails you can really have a right they went really well facebook ads and stuff but the they had what I called it like a hammer transition where it felt like you getting hit with a hammer like, oh, that didn't wasn't smooth and so. I Don I was like, let's work on this one thing which is sampled the transitions and I had the same thing by the way. That's why Susan a critique on Ed I had a phase in my career where I realized I was really good at writing different pieces of sales age, but they didn't transition super smoothly. So I spent time literally just focusing on smooth transitions. So pick one part of your copy to walk on at a time. and. Only focus on that and then improve another element. Later do that for week two weeks until you really good at that don't try and improve all of your copy. At all times. You're not going to just get better collectively you wanNA focus on going to get really good at writing stories or leads or closes or transitions in focus on that, and then the other piece Fred was creating more personality in the writing. So it became adding in these phrases that make things more fun and more interesting. So he had these two two primary focuses of sandpaper transitions and And adding cuss analogy into the copy. So pick those things that you also lacking in or have somebody tried to identify them for you and then improve those individually and like just said pick one person learn from them to ninety days if the stuff doesn't work after that pick someone else but commit to one at. One, one group whether it's you know Stephan an I or at somebody else commit to that, and then just learned from them because what's going to happen is you're gonNA get conflicting every. You may have five different copies. All great but they're all five saying different things and you're trying to do all five different things once, and then you're not going to get that good pick the one person, follow this stuff, and then go to someone else later if you sort of gotten everything, you can the. Okay well, thanks that's. Sweet. Glad to help at who we got next. Oria. How to quickly build authority in attract clients rather than keep chasing clients, your whole freelancing career. Hasty head Hey Ian wasn't Shula how you doing. I'm getting finish. Also. Taken. Off The After I got off BCS maybe. Like. This And I'm getting. So there was A. Good. Yeah, he's huge one just everyone does because I I did that put them on the podcast episode on teams came out for the podcast yesterday the three winners for the. Contests for sharing the podcast to ensure your. List Green and then Deborah Fairmont. So sure is one of them which was super pumped about. Super deserving guy all three of them were super pumped about congratulations. To all three era it's awesome. This news. So. Basically. That's the question how quickly Bid Authority and get the word of mouth spreading through the industry and grief you make this shift from. Utilizing, enriching or to clients to clients teasing you. That's the question. Knock Gaffe. Horsemen. There's a there's a lot that goes into that I. mean we covered in the freelancer freedom of course of course but you know that being said, the whole point of this show is to help people without having to buy anything so. Gosh I mean the post seen posting regularly like on in social groups whether it's a linked in facebook places like that as you're posting, adding value asking being a like giving Case studies like specific examples not just a thrill or but like just some. kind of like really broad like you should have a good headline like all right cool man. Well, like you said, it's it's something like You know here's why the headline really makes a huge difference like you know practicies how I helped a client, go from a one percent conversion rate to two percent conversion rate just by changing ten words and then you like have the post. Had A client, and it was doing this and I changed ready break down what you did doing those sorts of things in those posts for your than sharing actual specific examples of Windsor. Wasting out people or it may sway. You've helped yourself is one really fast and easy way to build authority So they started Chase you the other one would just be then as you get winds broadcasting those winds in general being open about it not being like you're being braggadocious if you share Wednesday you're getting for people I think that's really important. ed. You did a really good job of this with the compliant side and just by posting regularly you kind of increase your authority around facebook compliance fast if you have anything you want to chime in with my good friend Ed, Ray. I, think. So my perspective is at first, you're kind of going to have to do a decent amount of chasing clients. So you can serve find out what you enjoy doing, what clients who like working with what kind of deal structure you want. They were Kinda copy. You actually enjoy what CETERA. Once you Kinda like dial in what you're good at and what you WanNa do then you get known for that. Like when I first started copywriting I was doing everything anybody who pay me? and. Now, I only do well, not only primarily do. Fiscal compliant copy in the industry. Like. That's basically it. Right. So now that's only you look by the way. Right so Ed's now known as facebook compliance guy. For the visit. Industry. Yeah. Like I've worked with some of the biggest brands on facebook and the niche that have an they're able to scale effortlessly without worrying about getting shut down. Because of work with them and that's something very unique that. People can say so when you can get to that point where you can take, this is my thing. Than you attract a lot of opportunities that way. So that huge thing, and then you create content based around that and Mike Release says, he show up in show consistently around whatever it is that you you want to be known for people's to judge you by people reached out to me like, Hey, like. You know can you look over this copy for ice ended out to like before we launch it? Can you look over this offer before we get started like can you write the cells at it for me as compliant? Can you write me some facebook ads and I haven't I haven't had to hunt for a client in probably well, since I've basically lacked my last job So it's been what like Almost six months now maybe. And I think one of the other pieces that goes along with that is leveraging your wins Stephens set it. A lot of people have shame about you know saying that they did something. Well, you know I still dating twenty twenty course still has the same sales page I wrote of what he learned from sentening daily melts to list of one point two, million people a lot. You, know I I the first list that I worked with at one point many people and I, split test for the eight variations ever email and Created the principles and everything that work for it so If you've sold millions through email leverage that talk about that. Let people know because they want to know the track record the work. So if you. You know the first when you get talked about the guy who just came over for A. Consulting Day. He had just found out that. He wrote a sales page for free for someone that did two point three, million dollars a week. Now, you gotTa talk about that. You got to tell people that that happened. You know you got to you got to an it's it was a really good sales page actually and shout to Jake blue there. But Blue and so You know that's a really big. Thing in itself is just is. Is taking that win and then using that win potentially even over and over again to establish yourself as thirty. And then showing people that you can recreate those results for them. Having unique voice that's about I'll just say like the me a Lotta minority came from the parody videos which don't have anything to do with coffee or anything to do with you know they make marketing Malka, does and stuff. But that built a lot of authority because people saw videos they had they went viral. Some nothing you're gonna go make parody videos but putting yourself out there and saying things that other people on saying that's GonNa you get you get established as a thought leader sometimes by being a contrary taking the Colin things that people say and saying the opposite. Awesome does that help? Sure Yeah, yeah definitely. Thank you. Of course. Happy to help. Really guess again, men on the gained armies. While Awesome cool at who got next next up we got Jack Haley. For you big Mr Jauregui. Asked earlier this week you had a conversation with godfather a direct response in arguably the greatest historian of response owes deport Brian, Kurtz what is your biggest takeaway in? What was your biggest surprise? Fiance second what's Up Jack? Honored to be with you guys say you buddy. Guy That was my question. Yeah. It's a super good question but unfortunately, there's a crazy storm in Connecticut and Brian Sound the power went out and everything went out. So the call it a game rescheduled so we haven't had it yet. SARANDA matic. Loop, though the next week next week I'll have answer Bryant even he said he emailed me about it and he's like this is the first email I've ever sent from my phone but like echo so bad like I never miss call while off dude it's fine. You don't have power or internet or anything that there's not much she can do data. I mean a data, but he's Brian. Zoom on his phone on data so But Brian Super Cool I mean he's like you know what I email him here we. Go back and forth like you response within an hour normally. Like we so I tune in next week and I'll give you an answer to that. Question, Jack. Okay sounds great looking forward to it. Thank you. All right absolutely. Hope your question thrill and said, the was crazy here in Connecticut two hundred three sound. Yeah, apparently. It was a crazy storm. So but I of Brian excited chat with him and I do wanNA share the takeaways. But for now, what is the next question? We have a question from the girl herself Ghrelin saying early she says agencies why the bad rep? How do you tell what's a good one? Would you recommend them for someone starting out anything and everything? girling was up. Well. Hey. No No that's that's not questions not really much else to. Clarify because I wrote an email about my. Experience with kind of media, buying agencies, and how I am pretty vocal about how I generally don't like working with agencies and you're curious a perspective of as a like a aspiring writer you may go to work for an agency, right? Essentially because of heard from. Of copywriters say that when they first started working or what gave them a lot of experience in the forest just working during agency because they were exposed to so many different. Lake. Mitchelson stuff and just different types of projects altogether. Yeah, it makes sense. So the questions more lake. Visit copywriter. Yeah Okay Gotcha? So my personal opinion guerlain is actually that that's totally fine. I mean it depends on who you are and what your journey is and what you're looking for and all that kind of stuff but. I think it's fine to work for an agency and get exposed to a lot of different offers into get a lot of practice writing copy. So from the writer perspective, I think school might my issue is that ninety nine percent of agencies don't really get great results for their clients and so Again, even for those agencies, they usually have a few clients. They are getting good results for, and then a bunch of people who they aren't but all their attention and focus goes into those few clients who already had their stuff pretty dialed in before they came to the agency agencies kind of having an easy time running ads for them and like life's good. Whereas for why people come in, they can just throw money at the problem pain agency x amount of money whether it's retainer percentage of ad spender both and ends up that like wasting the client's money. So by issues with the agencies, but as far as a job opportunity goes if yo- engaging experience actually think it's totally fine to to write and work with an agency. Okay. Why? Is it like a bad is bad experience because it do they hire like new copywriters at don't have a lot of experience and best way it ends up being a bad experience like. That Yeah I think more than anything. It's a bunch of stuff. It's like most agencies are started by freelancers who were pretty good at what they did, and then we're like, oh, I have a I'm the the bottleneck, a bandwidth issue. But if I hire build out a team now I can replicate my actions and you know take on more clients and to do more work as great. What really happens is they build the team yeah. The team isn't as experienced as they are you don't really know what's going on as much so they end up getting worse results for clients. Some agency owners over promise they CA- they're they're just trying to pay their bills and make money. So they don't they don't actually vet their clients have their best interests at heart. So they say, yes, too many deals. And like I. Had one more point on that I. Really WanNa Remember. I guess. They don't care. Yeah. The biggest thing is care as much right? Like it's not if it's not when it's not your own offer. Like you just don't care as much. They're more detached from the results that we were talking about that at dinner last night when my wife Laura fired the one one of the agency that she was using the guy responded Abu Sad face. I'm not kidding that was that was first response at like. A response of? Hey, like this isn't working, you're not getting results I put all this money and Abu. Well. Sorry. Didn't work out whatever but like. That you know it wasn't like, Hey, can we get a call? How can I keep you? I know I could do better like our own. Here's why. Me Here's the game was. and that's agencies and I think if you just look at like. I think. It's telling that I feel this way about agencies I was talking to my friend Tom Merritt who's really good media buyer and has his own health offers and he was talking about how he feels about agencies. Craig Clemens recently posted about how you shouldn't do agency should build your own media buying team amber spheres last night talking about how she's. Never had good success with agencies or hardly ever I mean I think it's very telling Jason Kutaisi doesn't like agencies He's one of the best media buyers out there. I think it's very telling that you all these people who are really high level off feel the same way about agencies arm to be. That's a pretty big signed. You probably shouldn't hiring agency. Does that mean there's not exceptions. No, and there's agencies that get results for clients. It's not like no agencies get any results for their clients. It's just that it's very inconsistent. Most of the time they don't get great results for their clients. Eighty twenty principle maybe twenty percent of their clients get great results for eighty percent they don't so so many clients so he will come in again that they can just throw money at it. The agency's going to handle everything it just doesn't work that way and so that's why I typically think like. Working if affiliates forget how to buy your own media, getting it in house media buyer things like that are just going to generally be way more beneficial than hiring agency in throwing money at it. As A. As, A. You know if you go about writing copy for agencies if you have the right strategies to be around freelancer. There's no reason to rely on agencies to bring your clients and give them a cut, and then sort of goes back as well to the question about how to get really good at copy. Fast the actual single best way to get good is to get data. You know the way that I compare what most freelances do is there like they're playing? But they can't see the other side of the court. So the hitting the ball and their goal at folk good. But it was out by twelve feet. In and they don't know that and so now they're basing the next shot off of this shot it didn't actually work and so when it comes to freelancing the reason I got so good at email copies because I had insane amounts of data that taught me what worked and what didn't it wasn't because it was theoretical it was based on actual data as a freelancer you WanNa, do your best to get data from your clients and it's harder to do. If you're the agency in between you, YOU'RE NOT GONNA get a lot of data and you're not gonna get that. Good. Okay. and. Then the last question just to wrap to wrap it up For for anyone that is looking to work with an agency how would you know a what agencies good to work with her? What is it like? What are the red flags that you should look out for or as as an? Aspiring but as a copywriter. Yes. I mean reputation like hopefully levinger network like talk to people will do you know anything about them? You know like there's like Roi Machines Remodeler of the their agency a there have a lot of copywriters they're. They're really good crew There's you know there's a bunch of them out so. Yeah I don't know I would mostly leverage your network is the best aiming ask me. Hey you know and ask other people in your network but I. I. think that's the best way. Okay. Cool. Sounds good. Thanks guys. All Right Ed Ray, who was our next question? Look. Good question for Michael McGovern Hey guys what limiting belief did you change that made the biggest difference in your growth? Well. Something Eichel. S. I. Don. Goodman. Good. Good good question. So yeah, you. Are you Kinda like trying to figure out like are you looking to sort of grow personally and that's one of the reasons for the question or are you just curious curious about the context of that? Yeah. Maybe a little bit of both I think I think WANNA. Had a breakthrough moment you gotta get addicted to that to that feeling and then you're like, okay what else am I just believing? That's totally not true so. So. Yeah. Interested to hear your perspective. They're just looking for ways to grow. Yeah for sure. I think my one of my biggest ones. Actually happened when I was with Ian in France at this A. Weekend at the Chateau which is fancy as it sounds Where it was a fifteen thousand dollars sort of like four day event got referenced in this the the the hater guys email he sent out this week but like basically is a huge stretch me to attend. I, had a fledgling business that was not successful at that time and then I committed going so trying to. Deepen my network and build relationships and things of that nature and but it was really high level people in their. Jason Kirsty, you're on Straw House, which was the fastest growing company in Canada for Awhile really successful agency actually but but really as media buying team Kleinman agencies, even really fair Chris Karkin Scott Road from native path Daniel to- who's really successful Mike Geary in. Scou- who are just monsters in our space Tyler Bramlett who's a Big Name in our space, all these people and I remember. Feeling really nervous all the time. But there's a specific moment where it was like a whole day a day trip we did these like wine caves or whatever, and coming back. We're sitting in this parlor room by fireplace fucker. Parlors totally get it. Fight Yeah as it was a Chris. Clark. Mike. Gerry. And a camera someone else was there. They're talking about like email deliverability and something else. I didn't even know what they're really talking about and is had this instinct like, Oh, I should go the big boys are talking. So I should let them talk I don't belong I should go and then. I kind of forced myself to stay, but it was really uncomfortable. I didn't added into the conversation I just. But I knew I got I knew that was a weird belief that I shouldn't actually leave. But I couldn't quite place y and then at night in bed. House thinking about it more and I. Really. The realization had is I I really had these two kind of negative beliefs have been governing nieces a child in there that like you know I'm not good enough and I don't belong and I think that they happened because the justice may be when I was in third grade I moved cross country from rural town. Maryland. Where am I going away? Party was inside of a Barn And like like it was like just small towns small school my sister's graduating eighth grade class at nine people in it so super small town and they moved to California and then because we had been in such a small community, parents me into like a private school, which was you know a big financial investment from them but they want us have smaller class sizes in that culture shock of local high school. My sister would have gone to had like a thousand people in it. The freshman class. And she had been from class of eight people in whatever I got to come along. So to go into this private school in the Hoya in a new urban. And I was like overweight. Kids. Were kind of more materialistic like it'd be like you were that. You know you were that shirt last week I got mercilessly. Really had a tough time with it, and then over time I overcame it and found my way and had a good experience by the time I got into like. High. School and you friends along the way. But I I think that was really for me even even though it sounds so stupid in a way right but like That one thing in fourth grade of like moving to a new place and like I wasn't good enough because I didn't have the fancy things that other people had and I didn't belong because these people were all close knit I was an outsider. Stuck with me like into my adult life and onward and even was manifesting itself in that moment. So at that moment realizing it and be like this is crazy. Do I really want something that from from fourth grade to keep controlling my life for the rest of my life? You know what I mean. It was like I I realized I had a choice on that I'm like I can continue to believe that narrative and let that continue to. Govern me or I can just say that's fucking ridiculous. Whatever it was at the time twenty, nine or thirty, or twenty, eight and like. I'm not GonNa let that roll my life anymore and I made that decision it didn't happen immediately but that that was what started it and then Then I'd be in other situations where I start to to to have that same feeling of I. I'm not GonNa I don't belong but being attuned to it, and where do I was able to kind of cash. And became a lot easier to to start kind of to overcome it but that that was mine. I'd love to hear. Or if you have had when you want to share as well. I mean, I can tell you. So first off that trip, I just wrote staff and I gotTa send you the newsletters I wrote but I just wrote like ten thousand words about the Chateau and how it ended up. Leading to so many of the different I sold my water company to Jason Krinsky to the fastest growing in Canada. He was there in that place I recorded the first ever lied Topaz video in that show and and I was terrified I wasn't tariff I was I was afraid to spend the money on it because it was fifteen thousand dollars and I was not you know crushing at that point he does base investment I made. But that single trip led to so much. What's been great about my life? So it's like when you feel that, feel you just do it anyway also I mean, I could talk about this. Is On and I had a business with the therapist where we helped people walk through the deeper mental emotional blocks. That holding them back. So I've done. Essentially ended up doing your thirty s with the therapy and the cost of about two years. The running but the I'll say the biggest one. That Really. Was In my way for so long is that basically all had this thing called the upper limit problem. And Basically states that as you get close itself sabotage as you get close to getting exactly what you want. You find a way to fuck it up. It's my words. And and it's it's the big leap so. Is that book that talks about it in my my big trauma was that as I? I started to do really well at things other people's feelings would be hit by that actually goes back to the same thing as in fourth grade my best friend had time dj his mother was just a horrible cousin still is and that and she said in front of shoes like oh She's talking to this body is a bunch of adults and stuff around and she goes, Oh, incredible. He's. He's the only kid in school with a four point Oh. He's the best athlete in the school. He's you know he does Dj and and then she goes in Dj just struggles. He's not that good stuff and I just felt and I'm I'm an atom some feeling just like Oh my God I feel so bad from Dj doesn't even remember this because his mom said so many bad things that this is just one in a long line of. Bad thing she said, but what it signaled to me, I didn't know this to later. Is that basically that my success offends other people and that I need to dim my light because it's not okay for me to just be good at stuff in the reality is arrogance. This might come across the people. This is my own and just like everybody thinks that things are individually good or bad nothing exists good Obama on its own everything's a double edged sword. I. Was you know I was the smartest kid in my school? I was the fastest in best athlete. Naturally and I didn't work out and I didn't do much. But what I learned at that point was well, I gotta I gotTa shut the Shit Down Because I'm GONNA head other people's feelings into that something that I've been working here for the past twenty years and had. Gotten a grip on is that it's okay for me to succeed. It's okay for me to continue to expand and the second stand upset that I did I was in Scotland at the SPA and during the comedy festival and it was about thirty people in the room I did my first five minutes at. well, and then the comic who's for the end shop. So the guy says, Hey, do you wanna come up and do some more time and I was like I don't have any more time I started doing this I don't have more stand up and as I could tell story. So I went up and I told the two most embarrassing stories in my life the second one which have never known how to end and had a finish it well, and it built up into this crescendo and killed banning the room just like erupted and it was just as highest high that I felt. And these two English guys that were that I'd met they'd been doing stand up one of been doing it for a year another one to two years and we. Know exactly where I was walking in Edinburgh and we're walking up hill and they were upset I could just they were mad that it went so well for me how could this guy who's just started? Go, and do that while I've been trying this fears and they went particularly funny in most comics on. and. and. So for me it was it was another sign and basically you know I did like five more seven more sets that year while I've been San Diego basically stop four years in Austin. And it continued to signal to me that when I succeed other people get hurt and the reality is it's not your responsibility to support those other people dealing with all their own triggering in their own stuff and the only thing you can do is do your best and the people that are offended by it. That's okay. That's their own jenny that they're on. But for every person bothered, there's all these people that are in spy is probably plenty of people who see my postal stephens and go fuck this dude. Look at him fifty sales Douche of in for every one of those people this this five people gone. Got Him. So inspired and I WANNA do this Stephan was leading that hold him back. Then he wouldn't be helping all those people. So for me it was working through. As. Well, really great creating the self awareness around I'm self sabotaging and it becomes more insidious as you get further along in your life. The self sabotages in something. So clear as like cheating on a girlfriend when you're about to get married to you know to her. It becomes things like the night before you've got something important going out. Maybe drinking too much or for me it's even like before House for Carnival. I've Crohn's disease. So like certain foods will destroy me and so but eating a risky food the night before a big day because your subconscious afraid of all the good things that are going to happen see you have to. Start to practice the tolerance have good feelings as as people with where given this idea that you're not allowed to be happy all the time that you're not allowed to experience large quantities of joy because there's a, there's basically a switch that gets triggered. And Yes. Definitely. Go ahead. And and. So you know you get this you basically land that you're not allowed to just be happy and I'll just talk about this for another couple of minutes because he's got to. Go to the bathroom real quick, but basically You know I I started working through noticing when those things happen in stopping myself before the sabotage patterns. came. Up. And you know, and if you look at actually the way that movies A. Structured and you look at story structure, the Heroes Johnny, which is the most prototypical story arc that goes into a Hollywood movie. They will follow the same structure, which is you know the you don't watch a movie where things get better for the main character and then they get a little bit better and then they keep getting better they meet the girl their dreams, and then they get married and it's all good. That's not how. Movies are told movies at told where you know the main guy, he meets the pretty girl. Things get better. Oh my God they're in love they're going to get married and conflict, and he is the conflict, and if you don't know story structure than maybe not as a web but the you know things go bad and then the resolution in every movie, it doesn't matter if it's a rom com romantic comedy or anything else they follow the same structure of things are about to get resolved the movies about and then there's a conflict. And then there's a resolution and so we're literally taught through stories and three movies for our entire lives that are not things to get better. They have to get west, I and that's not true. That's just something that we'd been taught to believe, and so it's understanding that things can continue to get that in that. That's Okay Stephanie and I both know people and maybe have experienced it and our own lives. You make a you have your biggest monetary day, and then you find a way to blow some of that money or do something stupid right after something. Really good. I'll do this with friends. They'll be like I'm having this stuff having in my relationship. And I go how's business going and they go there like I don't know if I WANNA be with my girlfriend Margaret How's the how's Your Business in no goats doing well, I say how? Well like actually it's the best it's ever dot. Yeah. So what's happening is you'll making so much money that you'll find a way to create pain in your life and your relationship it has nothing to do with your relationship. It's the fact that you can't tolerate all of the good feelings that are happening allies. She learned how to build a tolerance for good feelings. You learn how to sit with them and good things happen and expand amplify those good feelings in order to create a high tolerance so that you can continue to rise without having to take those. Big Four Yeah I've never I've never thought about it like building a tolerance to can feelings. That's that's that's. Something I never considered. As awesome that most people don't talk about. A cool. Yeah thanks for sharing us. Awesome Getting Srpski Michael. Gray Shabby. So good to go for a few minutes I to answer a few more questions if we. All right. Sweet. So we're GONNA do. JAKUP I'm not sure the franchise Jacob but how do you say at the top of your game inflate rejection as a standalone entrepreneur someone answer live? Last get it like doing these. Add raise. Their either up. Do. something. To like n people are like, oh. I don't know I, don't know what I'm doing without. But it's going to be Okay Jake I'm answer this without putting you up so you can like speak because I have no idea what I'm doing. Basically, how do you stay on top of your game fight rejection as a sailor entrepreneur the honesty the biggest answer for that one is to. Get a get a network, create a data goethe masterminds em facebook groups have a network of people I. Used to feel that way too before I found masterminds I felt like was being on an island. It's really lonely sometimes and this really hard to relate to other people because always people in your life aren't entrepreneurs than they just aren't going to know what you're going through and they're not GonNa really want you to talk about it and they don't really understand your business and they don't really actually care the coolest thing that having a network of other entrepreneurs as that they do care. So we're like, that's what we love. Right we love talking about business. We love talking about our wins in struggle as we love sharing what's worse and we love providing insight to everybody in guidance to our friends and things like that. So that's why I go back to like masterminds and networks Maharidge crazy But like. Going to masterminds one of the many reasons to change my life, and then you have those people and then you can do like weekly calls and touch base with people and do all these amazing things. So yeah. If it were for me I, really think that the answer to that one is just build a network and stuff like that Tinton. But. Hopefully that helps Jacob, I'm GONNA try to figure out how to actually anew people and let them ask their questions I'm not at Ray. So Mason Duer said dumb question wasn't Wisconsin. Delivery of sales letters if direct mail is officially dead is the same as sales space do people charged fifty K. for ourselves page Let me see here if I can I'm GonNa Find You Mason I'm an you talk I realized what I used to do here. I'm learning evolving. So give me one second A missile is okay to talk. Mason. What's up man? How are you doing? Has It gone man good. Are you? A big fan honestly awesome I I see a lot of like. The real money in copywriting is is obviously sales letters. I'm an email guy right now and it's okay. But like you definitely drive more revenue be a sales letter but I keep hearing people sound so. Elementary. But I keep hearing people talk about sales letters and I don't know if they actually mean sales page like a really landing page because sales letters when I think of that, I think of direct mail. Which? Normally does anymore would do you personally mean by sales letters Yes I. AM talking about along usually along forum like a script or A. Tax Sales Letter So kind of the same thing you get in direct mail, but the format a little bit different. The one thing I would say is that you mentioned direct mails officially dead in his totally not dead. There's still tons of people are doing tons of money of direct mail and you'll find these swings to. Where people will People move away from direct mail and then people who do it actually make a ton of money like newspaper average Oriels newspaper ads people just crushing with that so wanted to. Mention. The people were saying is dead for years. It's like email certainly, not dead. So. Know people will say that stuff, but we don't want to necessarily believe it. So yeah for me effects either a script for a video sales letter, which may be like anywhere from thirty minutes to an hour. Long you know basically a digital infomercial. So to speak or maybe formatted long form letter this a story and following the whole structure. And usually those from year between about six thousand and ten thousand words long. That's what I what I'm talking about. Does that make sense? Yeah I'm just trying to reference descending I've seen because I do read a lot of Copy I. Love Reading Copy especially first thing in the morning for start working. Yeah I don't think I've ever read like I've heard you talk about ten thousand more while which downs. Now we take a long time to read. Whatever seen one online. Video. Sales letter is definitely make a lot of sense. I see now is like in funnels and stuff but. Yet now they definitely. Cool yeah, the touchdowns are. Go. Ahead An. was going to say the idea though that you're just gonNa make more sales that isn't necessarily true. You can make a shits on email emails tends to be a lot easier. It's all about deal structure like it's all about setting up your deals in a way where you get. Paid on the incentives. So I I would argue that I mean, I've made a lot of money right in sales lettuce but emails really. The most valuable skill that you can have in my opinion writing great email copy, and so I it comes down to the fact that. The that you need to understand how to set up the deals, which is legit. That's one of the biggest things that Stephan and I feel like do differently than so many people and that's one of the biggest spots of somebody just asked we talk about deal structuring freedom for freelance freedom. Yes. Yeah. That's one of the biggest things that I talk about new Steph and talks about I think. So to a quick little aside on this is the difference between doctors and pull doctors isn't fiscal doctor. It's the rich Dr owns a practice and understands the business side of being a doctor in the doctor just does doctors shit. The difference between a rich copywriter and a rich email copyright copywriter is not that better coffee per se. It's that they understand deal structure they set up deals crate win wins the pay them lots of money for the little bits of work. So deal structure is what I would say the single most important thing to understand when it comes to. Growing your income as a freelancer and that's something that both definite I do differently than almost everyone and it's something that makes us more than almost everyone when we're doing that type of stuff. So I definitely would recommend. You know reevaluating that some degree and understanding that it's not the skill, it's the deal structure. That's how you can make a lot of money as a web designer graphic designer. If you think about things differently if you deliver R Y on what you do, you can charge dramatically more than everybody else because you're making people dramatically more than what you charging what? She charge doesn't matter what you live. What result you provide is what that is, and that's how you decide on how to charge a ton and it all comes down to deal structure. We go super in depth on that in the course show different examples however drudge twenty, five K. Upfront plus an additional fifteen to sixty thousand or more on the back end. From four or five, sometimes our to our work. Awesome. So. Mason. Hopefully that that helps you out man. Yeah you John Yeah, absolutely. and then I will put in link to freelancer freedom checkup hitch again for those who are interested. In our two point. Oh. Okay When they go to? A. Nickel see he had his kind of rising up here with new offer that's been validated and cold traffic. What are some cases were? You won't skill fast. Thank you. At seven and so I'm going to answer that. But I'm also going to tag team that with Chris Lobs question, which was about the metrics you're looking for when you're trying to validate and offer unquote traffic so. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA taxing both I'm Gonna I'm GonNa just jump in without necessarily. I, think of you guys to live just because. I'm combining two. So so first Chris asked like. What. Kind of metrics are you looking at when attempting to validate a brand new offer on cold traffic resign asked us because I want about something before building out a more elaborate warmup relationship-building sequence. So in terms of declaring an offer validated, would you be looking to break even fairly quickly? So slight loss knowing to optimize over time negative X. row as which is trying adspend knowing optimize, etc.. For me Chris like the biggest things I would be looking at her. Office specific metric but I if I have guidelines or baseline. So for example, if I'm sending out to a list where I've emailed a similar offers to this list consistently and I kind of like these these baseline metrics, I, guess that's warm traffic right but I do WanNa like, no that helps me to see have a better chance on cold traffic once it gets cold traffic. Just talk about infuriate like sixty, the seventy percent. Roi. Early on like that probably means you can get the offer to work You just need to tweak it modified a little bit It's very rare that you put stuff out and it's just like giving us fat Roi Really Fast. So, if I if I've seen. By spent thousand dollars and I get six hundred or seven, hundred dollars back in feel pretty encouraged by that by that. If I started thousand dollars and get zero back. I might be a bit concerned there. You know. So for me like any other sixty or seventy percentage threshold would be typically were fifty percent but then that would depend on some factors. If there's already suspicions I had that might make a difference like these super candid with you. Again, I'm just going to throw us out there like for freelancer freedom and we just like watch it to my email this morning we're much it like I think that the. We're getting a lot of people definitely by it, which is awesome. One of my suspicions that we really need to have a payment plan there because like the market of law freelancers pay ninety seven is going to be like you know it's a big investment for a lot of folks, right so for me even though maybe if I, don't have as sales for freelance for freedom having watched it as I would have expected out the gate I'm not like we are making sales of course, people you're GONNA change their lives Oh Shit guests. You aren't interested in making more money as a freelancer getting clients all that I'm like interesting I wonder if like you know to do with the fact that he's not a lot of people who are freelancing who really need a payment plan options. So do you ever hypothesis like in you're getting like you know an Roi, but it's not as high negative. That also can influence things a lot and I would probably urge to test on that I do an answer part two, which would be. Nikos questioned but Andy everything else you want to add to the stuff that Chris asked i. Asked me Point six, two, point, eight, Ro- ads in the beginning those probably good legs though that after a while it's break, even you're gonNA crush it I always say with any sort of office putting out start with Sushi with email stuff. Like, the follow up start with the simplest form and then add complexity as it grows. So don't try and create the Super Complex follow up with all the ships are really basic follow up and then start to add the layers of complexity wants it's going. And then you know a lot of it becomes about tolerance for how much you're willing to tolerate losing on the front, and if you WanNa really scale something fast. But if you getting a pretty good right right out of the gates, than does a good sign that it's probably going to do royal. Sweet and then Nikiel question was with the new offer that's been vowed in traffic. What are some cases where you won't scale fast right. So my answer to that would be mostly. was like logistics fulfillment even whether it's digital or physical like if I don't have the infrastructure to scale fast if I don't have the. Supplement offer are any physical product offering I don't have enough physical. You know if immature scale really fast I, don't WanNa do that it could depend from me on the traffic source if I'm stealing faster for brand new affiliate partner who I know nothing about and they don't know anything about them. Then scale fast 'cause I is the traffic legit is it like fraudulent like I don't want to like the worst could happen is they bring the send you five thousand sales in your holy crap I'm about to be so rich in a new find out that all those sales are stolen credit cards and your entirely shutdown. Does. Be Two really big ones. Another one would just be. A in general can kind of cause that just saying like we pay on a on my book, we pay thirty dollars. CPA. If somebody just sent five hundred sales the next day. and. They would come in like twenty dollars LV, which it's normally around the five to forty five. I'd be like, Hey, onto breaks like clearly sending should lia traffic will keep sending. You can keep sending for twenty dollars CPA. Like that's wide doing revenue. Share during like seventy, five percent or ninety five percents. Russia makes things. A lot safer to scale, and also you don't always want scale super hot on facebook youtube with ten year. You WanNa do a ten to twenty percent ad spin increase in time because that's what they want. You can break sort of the whole process. If you go from hundred dollars a day two, thousand dollars a day. They don't WanNa see that type of violent. Increase in AD spend. So you WANNA be a little slow with the skipping and like Stephens I've watched businesses fall apart because the. Direct Response Digital Info people that start killing it with ECOMMERCE, and they completely don't have the skills to manage cashflow cost of goods sold inventory, and then the whole business shuts down despite doing. Twenty million a year. Because of cash flow issues around infrastructure and and shit like that. Sweet. Awesome. So hopefully that help both of you. Maybe Cherry pick a few A few questions here we're going to START TO WRAP UP A. Back it up I want answer John Choice. He said Stephan for you. Personally I was wondering what your, why is the reason by still writing sales letters for clients understand you charge happy fifty k. but don't make more money by writing your own offers Yeah. I do I the reason I continued to do. Third Party work is. A couple things. One is a morning copy accelerator where I'm teaching and training about copy all that and yes. Now I have my own offers of pardon. But those are premature on autopilot but if I'm working with different clients and Having a success for them. This is a lot of social proof in is provide can point to and be like, Hey, look I'm actively writing for these people. So when I come to Tcu like, I'm not teaching based on stuff that worked awhile ago not teaching you for just one product or one type of thing is like I'm having success with variety of clients that helps to Increase my credibility and things like that also enables me to teach in have more interesting things to teach like my honestly my supplement company is. Successful I mean eight figures great to hear figures in theory become nonchalant about it. But there's tons of we have tons of issues and challenges and things that don't get done as fast as I would like and all of that I don't actually have the bandwidth to job to mysore things and. I could when I can do all the stuff I WANNA do. But identity if I write something for a client who super dialed in, they're gonNA run all these tests and do all this interesting stuff and give me data really fast, and that's really interesting data that I can apply to myself in the company that I can teach on. All of that kind of stuff dude I discussed the most amazing testimonial ever. So I'm an apostle. John Crotty IOS Stephan my little girl Alissa just said Daddy you listen to that man you get more money. Over Great. So good shout to listen listen. Thank you so much for for listening with your Daddy. I really appreciate it. You're awesome. Awesome Guy. We love having him with us and we love that you listen to. Elissa. Thank you for being part of the show. One note about the part of I think why Stephan does with his well is because there's not an end this amount of office of your own that you can create. And also, this is one of the benefits to being a freelancer especially early in your is you don't realize all of the insane things that go into managing an offer in a business employees in all of this stuff like he gets to write the sales letter and that's it. Right like that's. That's that's all you have to do whereas if you crates new offer fest off if it's a digital product cradle of the content. All of the product itself do all of that work. He has to have people managing that customer service. Than affiliates wet is the traffic come from all of that stuff whereas for you know to get fifty K. to disco sales at her is a lot different workload than launching a new offer new. Business. Yeah and it also depends on. Like the the usually the letters taking on now it's like. Of. Stuff. Right. Now, I can crush it really fast and So. Honestly I have. Three letters of my docket right now over the next. Twelve weeks, which was one I got paid for two letters back in March, and then literally yesterday they're like, Hey, we're ready and they paid me back in March and so what's cool about that one talking contracts is that there is an option where after this first two letters I have there's an option where I can right I get to choose if I wanted to more for them and I think the pay for those like. Ninety or one, hundred thousand. So basically after right those sweaters for them, I can really trigger something on our contract and they have to pay like ninety thousand dollars to a great team or letters. But only if I want and if I don't want to write the letters, then I don't trigger I don't have to do any more work Aussie. Now, I'm leaning towards not wanting to do the additional work 'cause I, WANNA focus on my publishing company and other stuff and I one for somebody who's training offer on Click. Bank But after that I don't. You know I keep saying I'm going to get away from writing sales letters for people because like I have other things I do WanNa do but then. I do love it as well as far as well, and so to get paid to point to get paid like whatever it is to. Just. Get to do something you enjoy and kind of as a reprieve is so clean. So many things I do I will always ongoing businesses which is great and there's so many things in so many moving parts to have something where it's like I get paid money I read this thing I give them. The thing in the transaction is complete I don't have all that in my life and my businesses. So there's actually just kind of. An appeal to that as well. This thing sort of Nice about it so. I don't know how long I'm GonNa do I'm. Not. Ninety five percent of stuff that comes my way and I don't know how long I'm GonNa keep doing other letters for people but. Yeah, that's for a little bit. Okay maybe the one more question and looking here one more I gotta run two minutes here. All good Answer all. Audrey said, what's your take on taking projects where you have no experience on learning the task as you go Off. The ton early on Ion. See for me. Personally I'd rather. The Super Cliche thing I use a lot now like Osh Moore's life of like Jamaica Plain, building the parachute on the way down I mean that's what I did. People would be like Seo Yeah and I like how do you do SEO Deuba websites it'd be like, yeah definitely. I do websites I would like how do you build a website to me? I was you know really hungry and I, figured if I knew I could teach myself. Things and learn things. So I typically was I'd rather just come out there healthy lot is I looked at what other people were doing for these clients and like most freelancers out there especially in the road of like up work in Lance's which was at the time they weren't that good and as I do this stuff like not that good like these sites aren't that good this these people don't know what they're doing if vescio the writings, not that good. And I'm like I just pure like kind of. Determination and talent in ambition I'm pretty sure I can do something that's as good as anybody else in probably better. So I did have a confidence factor there in that. because. That's the thing it's not like there's. There's not that many really like high-level freelancers out there. Right must be Kinda like really mediocre at best. So if you're really going to work hard at it and you're determined to to get a great outcome for your client than I, personally McKay with taking a risk and trying something you haven't done before in you agree with that be curious. Oh I think I am about the most prime example of a person who's just like I'll figure it out like what I what I say and it sounds cheesy but is the how is not the now? So people who go well, I know what I WANNA do but I don't know how to do it and I go I I know what? I WANNA do I don't know how to do it but that doesn't stop me from doing. I figured out you smart. You figured out. That's that's my belief. You know especially goes back to the chaos theory at the very start of this, which is if it's early on in your career say yes. If it's later on the Korea feel free to say no. That's that's exactly what I did as a freelancer too. Awesome everyone. Thank you so much for coming on for joining us. Back, next week dancer a lot more questions, but I didn't get your question I do I'm sorry I want answers as I. Can I, E end us too but A. Check out for freedom links in the emails I sent is in the facebook live thing i. put in this chat latest goes to checkout page, but honestly, you'll see more about it. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA have a sales pitch tomorrow where each have one with our own lead self that'll be fun but if you're already freelancing, you want your first clients no matter what it is to freelancing highly recommend you get it no way if you implement that, you won't make money back in multiples. So. We'd love to have you in there and have you in that first group or closing down the planets close it Monday night. So make sure you get it soon so that you don't miss out and so that you can be proud of that first group to go through. Yeah absolutely and ever advance. You should get to I. Mean that's we should mention that everyone in Vegas No, I mean. Originally, we did it for. A ton of CARAJAS in there. Yeah. It's people who literally six x their income within three months people who doubled their income within a couple of months people who quit jobs. It's you know the the results speak for themselves. Hundred percent. Awesome. So check it out and again, thank you as always for joining me and thank you again for being with me as well and see everyone next week. All active everybody on. Social media a Neil so by everyone thank you. All right. That's just about today before we finish though let me share a little bit more about how you can stay in touch with me. I have a private email list where I share high level tricks, strategies and insights about copywriting entrepreneurship mindset and more. In fact, often my podcast based on topics I I emailed out my list weeks or even months earlier. So if you want to get brand new stuff for me every single day go to Stephan Paul George I dot Com for Sasha subscribe. 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The Kirk Minihane Show

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"All right guys ranch coming. Let the king ranch here from okay. Just let me give you a minute. Call matlock fool from now on. Okay i can i mean. Does he not know. The goat is i mean. Is he fucking stupid. Fourth and eight. Let me get straight fourth in the fourth and goal at the your downey have the greatest quarterback of all time on the other side of the field. You have. i'll do it now. why. I'll put rodgers my top five all time legal brady montana star back manning or elway top five or six. He's your quarterback. He's you guys brought you there so the greater the mvp right most likely most likely when the mvp and he kicks a field goal blue. He kicks fucking field goal. Hands of over the break happens. They run the geico. This stupid thing i've ever seen. I was afraid we wouldn't be able to get anything done here. Because he'd be so worked up about it. They get a fire. The it up. Steve let's go tweeted out. I want to take some calls in this game. I won't take some football. I year in green bay. They're going to fire fired. Matla fired. i don't even understand it. Explain it to me. I can't it's unfathomable go. Hi mccreadie little you fucking any. What what what. How what are they doing. That's a topical reference and now and now brady's his tenth super bowl tat super bowl. He's gonna win is at home fans there and can you imagine just for second. Imagine being bill belichick right now frost. His cookies robert kraft. Oh my god imagine he was here. Tom brady to for twenty years. I'll say now. I was thinking about this earlier. My all time. Sports mount rushmore. Okay one for each sport. Obviously of brady jordan ruth gretzky. Brady's the tops right now. He's the greatest of any of them of all time. Well no that's jordan won six championships. Okay great in eight years fantastic. Brady's ten that's equivalent of like making eighteen. Nba finals babe. Ruth world series might take a guess. You're being yankee fan. Take a guess three. That's i'm saying with the yankees. I think i think he want four with the yankees. Okay i could be wrong. Let me look this up. you'll bieber's real names steve. I do not know do you. Mike george herman george herman ruth let me see Twenty three twenty seven twenty eight thirty two. Oh four championships with the yankees. I mean peanuts for by the way all four those are with garrick so two of the three or four bus hitters of all time when four world series. Yeah that's kind of weak who's brady nobody. Nobody said don't do garrick. No none grog is no garrick. I hope no did you tweet. A call did yes reaction. I want reaction from this game. People are gonna be hot reaction. They should believable. There's only been fifty five of these things. Brady's been to ten. He's been to ten of them through the metal hand them if that makes any of the players toward than six i believe. I don't know if that's right. Actually what who's been the more than six. You could be ready. Just not charles haley. I think maybe. I think yeah. I think i'm for now. Four five five yeah. He was there for boston. Giants three wins. Yeah seattle reign. This is six super bowl. Although he didn't plan the giants won and they played in the giants or no. He didn't plan the dance after the game. Which i'll oh believe me. So thoughts on that dance after the game up steve. No they're not what i just test. The phone line is working to preserve of what you're gonna. They're coming in now. Fuck makes you wonder if malcolm butler played that game what would how would brady and tampa bay right now knows I think about that a lot. Yeah wife played. Today's game no no saying he played in the super bowl would eagles tampa in a. Why wouldn't he be feeling will be different. That's what i'm saying. We have five four with our hand. Is flat tire together. Who knows a guy kicked a field goal. If i've been watching my mind see is very surprised to see a tweet. I mean i wasn't. I saw a tweet tweets heading pretty easy. I thought i thought you Were finished watching the game. That's are of course. I do every time right. Well i'll say this once again. They're loaded up there little so now wouldn't mind getting the writer on from green bay to get gauge fan reaction. Maybe talked to one of those stations. I want to see what the same on the floor. Tonight it's great night to sports. Talk show so gretzky. Let me see look at gretzky. I mean great. Gretzky statistically on the different level than brady. He's the great one. Are we talking when you look at it. Are you talking about championships mike. You're talking about statistical wise. How do you gauge it. I'm talking both. I combine brady got statistics to back it up. He does how many stanley cups did gretzky win. I have three to know. I am the big hockey guy. I thought they want a bunch in a row. Didn't they thought they went to. And that right dot says he never wanted to la the final one four four four hockey versus six in the end. What was gretzky's run. As a tom brady has been dominant. Brady's the enter this a starter till today. Give take year to hear. Sure he's always been one of the three or four quarterbacks in the league say so regrets. That's a twenty year run twenty years. Here's gretzky let me see. Where do you go gretzky. Nope dominant fourteen years. Thirteen fourteen years. I mean we're not even this is not this is not even people's embarrassing jordan brady wanted to play the forty five people left. I was one of take on my face. I said the guy was in the climbed seven years ago. It's crazy. i took golfing. I'll eat it. We'll take the calls as a taste. Not great hello guys. What's up all right. So brady's best ever all sports force hot we better than greg jordan. Better than i mean. I'm trying to think of george. Listen here's the thing. okay okay. what's your name elvan elven. Okay where are you calling from. I'm calling from swamps massachusetts massachusetts. Dave portman agreement right. Yes if jordan didn't take a leave of absence elvin will conspiracy there for three years and won. Titles all three of those years or two years right so i think he came back that second year. But it didn't matter you sweat by orlando wasn't jordan at that point. If you wanna eight neuronal well then we can have a conversation. I think but i mean again jordan jordan jordan jordan. I talk you talk. Jordan's run was from eighty six really that the celtics playoff game. It was till ninety eight twelve years. Brady's romans nine years longer right. Sorry bringing gamble on games would say when kicked out of the league. Commissioner trenton treated barely brady terrifically. it was brutal brutal. No one's been mistreated like worse to read the push to dig tonight. Yeah shoeless joe exactly. Well that's what i'm saying. Anything else elven. Also have the undefeated season Well did they move and countless. Afc how many afc title game to. If he's ten super bowls what is it can you can do. I can do this for years didn't he make. Afc title game. I mean you know year. They missed the playoffs last year. They didn't make it. The area was hurt that it they lost to the jets that one year. They lost the ravens one year and was at first round only got blown out the ray rice game. So what five years. He didn't make it right. Probably ed semi fucking head. It's thirteen overall. Thirteen overall eighth consecutive eighth consecutive at one point eight concerned by the way by the way as a six round pick is. I don't know if you knew that. So thank you. Thank you look at some of the camp you themselves that some of the guys that went before. I don't know if you heard about those phillips was he. Not the first quarterback drafted certainly was not. Yes i mean as many of those guys that guys go farmer. Right is reforming brady. Was god the goat dominance tiger woods in this argument. Well sure but it's an individual athlete. Okay not the same and again. Huge ups huge downs consistent consistent all. Thanks to alex guerrero. Thanks to my friend. Alex guerrero should give them a call. I was number. I said to you before. It's i think so. You know you have a habit of never saving these. I just an odd producer instinct. But i'm here to celebrate tonight. We're gonna do. Mike promoting his goddamn show on the youtube channel night. Jesus asks you my email you too much cheese. Go watch tv or something. Just go away the lonely man. Anything else how we try. Congratulations alex sorry. We'll take a couple more for one year up tiger woods. Hey kirk i was just hoping you can go over the keys to brady winning seven super bowl. I mean we don't know the opponent yet the people listening to tomorrow will if you're playing a resuming. They're playing the chiefs. Make very simple to keep mahomes off the field him done done. I mean what about the turnover battle. You think that's important it's important. It's important to win it obviously Here's the other thing we're not. We're not nobody's talking about this. I know i mentioned earlier home game. Okay their home in the super bowl. I'm gonna make them right now. Kansas city wins right and we saying that guys caller we saying that bills guy but yes. Okay if kennedy wins can be a two point favorite at tampa. It's probably fair. Yeah yeah take the bucks underdog again you know what. Take the bucks. You make some bucks. That'd be my taste you guys out. There is no stranger to that under forty. Yeah no problem. But i mean you know third name. It's two eight. That's what i'd say to keep it short third and two you'll be snow on. You know what. I'm saying sure that's a lot. Thirteen goo abound moscow to many emails. Everyone's asking this question affable friendly. Jesus folksy sad details as say it was like it was like watching jordan with the wizards. But that's that's be like you said a better comparison watching acie earl with the wizards. What's up phil. What we're doing with kicking the field goal lose. i started their. You know what are we doing. I you know i would. We post post game sound yet. Steve osceola here. Watch stooges in the media. Our harassment's question. I mean if that's the only question he's asked can forget it he's gotta be gone. Gone if you're rogers also friend of the company to this guy he's fuck you. I'm standing on the field now. I would think so the fuck you mentioned. Grady little pull pedro martinez here for crisis saying rajkot off on this caller straight meal from wrong. I think you're right. I think anybody could go. You know ten games with aaron rodgers. We saw what i call them. I don't know if you've heard. But i used to call them that fluke he the fluke i call me earlier fire fluke. What's he fluke with getting good record this year by london. He's he's young. he's want all these games. He orders the real question. The real question. Tom brady on this gets a home game. I just said that said listen. Michelle thank you talk to you later. This up steve is still look great again. I'd like to talk to some writer in gradually get a sense of the Green bay right now l. o. Good evening a long time. I think it is absolutely crazy. People are saying l. Check is a good break. One second please hold on. Hold on hold on. Hold on what you make. Your point can swim a scott roles so much hall of fame love in this thing. Look the ballot fifty five percent. That's what you get nothing being clean. I watched place. It's got a hall of famer. Watch them play. You guys not a hall of famer november. Good on my chest i down brady. Threw the most potent offense in the league as like for the best receivers in the league and i mean they had seven people out there. I mean what. Are you going to do what he's supposed to do kirk. Please tell them how supposed to do a great job this year. Who did a great job this year. Bella check he did a great job of that seven hundred nineteen record this year. I mean seven and nine. They had their best defensive players. Who says who says who says hold on who says you are what your record says. You are the bill check right right. It is what it is It comes from and nine seven and nine years. You always going to be where gonna be two weeks from tonight. He'll be sitting there with linda. Who's bitching about brady on instagram. Instead of frigging keeping her mouth shut. He'll be sitting there stuff popcorn in his face watching. Tom brady win his seventh super bowl and the ballot. Check myth four ever that forever. You go go. Hi another murder weapon from your aunt. My right that is crazy. Komo's sam just what do what you wanted. The best opens in the league. Like what do you want him to do. Of course i mean better off out. What was the buccaneers wreck. Last year. It was record last year I don't know that jamie thrown okay. Who they have now. They have brady. Who doesn't throw interceptions. Brady's bruce in tom brady's taken the super bowl. He's a dope. Bella take used to build the defend. He builds a defense and let brady play with this subpar. Offense i know. I guess i guess you're blaming kobe. Kobe some recording equipment. Not working or something. I guess i guess we phony a phony. He fired wire kirk yet. Your opinion that's right that'd be good by taking your credentials detest here. He say how do you have a job talking. sports question. The solo up steve. The still. what's thank milton's as well for keeping this high. I got my mill tonight. Which i love love love and i love. What's that like me to know there. You go there jar during friday this week or knows at scheduling. We haven't we haven't put it on the books yet but we are hoping to schedule a trip this week. Excellent digital sponsor of kirkman and not just the kirkman hint show Timberland coal collide. 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It's it's there's no sport or a coach in my opinion strengths or weaknesses. Crystallized as there is in the national football league. I mean you know. Frank vogel whatever who even knows her expulsion or whatever. His name is who even knows what i'm saying. Is you saw matt leflore today. What he's all about you know. And he's a loser. He should be fired right if it's been fired. It's the no i've just checking. Twitter doesn't look he's been fired yet at the city. Owns the packers right. Yes that's correct. Get together and fire them right now. I think that that's what they're talking about. I mean taking the cheese off their heads absolutely. She's cheese number one. Packers yankee fan with gonzales not happy. She's upset right now. Kirk and that breaks my heart. I can hear you well. that's good. I mean which is upset that she extra boring or how does that work. She say nothing extra. I know you know when you're a packers. Scholarship packers a yankees fan. Oh god yeah. Well hopefully k. Marco's miserable to. I'm sure they'd talk and sports. Those to those knuckleheads will be dead before the super bowl. Yes they right. Thanks for the call. A packers fan of sleep for a month. Anyway i say do you mean why would they do that. Why would why would they move their home though. Well we'll flirt getting fired. You know what that would understand this. I didn't shit for that. We all just moved up. Nickname was it's accurate. Having stain understand better and better with kids to move their home. Yes yes because the coach decision. Green bay all wisconsin. I don't wanna citizen there tomorrow. How's it. I mean how are they gonna survive. There's plenty of places to live in this country. Cyo ming plenty of land. Tough time the job. Too bad good point field goal. Hello hey how's it going kirk. I mean you know it's going a can right now. It this gearhead. Mike von executive level your head. So am i back. So am i exchange a lot of what a warsaw. My god big content my years. Yes go ahead. The matter about reviews unbelievable false advertising. We'll tease loyalties. Were you want. Here's my question so brady spent the first. Abbas courier saying he wasn't better than manning now the second half of this year. He wasn't bad of rogers i mean. Is it better than both. I mean right. So it's a lot of bunk to me. I mean no shit stupid. I mean what are we doing here you can you know. Kurt warner's in the hall of fame watering to the halted. He's in the hall of fame. Ira believe he is. Let's disappoint yes. So kurt warner alright thanks. Yes in two thousand seventeen. So kurt warner's in the hall of fame off of. I would call hall of fame years. Use a hall of fame quarterback. Here's let me but like starting one two three four. I'll give them six years. The hall of fame quarterback. I'd say three years. He was in the super bowl about it. But i mean but he was with the saint. Louis he was that level and in arizona. He was that level. Brady's had three hall of fame careers than by that sandra three. You know when you put away three puts it onto ducted three different times three different years reason now. I have to wait five years each time. Okay that's what i want is just always on the bell on being to get deducted for the third time at age sixty eight okay. I mean it's not even. I mean i mean brady. Manning used to fall for that to break abraham. I never not getting the hall of fame and his lifetime player. He's dead that's true that's true. Yes i still up steve. There's still loaded up card good. Let's go six thirty europe and they're afraid took the blame them. You're gonna say hello good evening. Have you got a chance to break down the latest episode. Legion skinks yet. I mean wh- what the fuck are you talking about oxide. He got mentioned on the show and was excited. He tweeted about it she did. You're all excited. They mention cares. Soup wasn't particularly positive. Mentioned i've lived. Kfc put out in a row news. Report that i had passed away true. Yes no no. He us the guest this week said you died and they said what because it came up because they in turn named blindly and kfc goes you guys have a blind like it was a discussion on what happened. Your guy caves. He was. I don't know i think it's funny i i it was good. Episode gomez was funny. He's good he's funny guy. Did like you know what's going on with A situation with traffic these days. That sort of thing. I don't know. I don't think it made me laugh. What was the last episode by breakdown. Kfc was okay. Sounds good thank you. Thanks for the call to absorbed by my my signature. I understand four up four zero four. Where's that where am i. Wisconsin calls tonight terrified the crime. What's up pillows. Which in right now. Hello bekker's who get on the horn. Police steve hello what's up. Hey what's up a four calling from atlanta okay watching the washington pigskin right now in The bills versus Kansas city is kind of curious. What your whole. Take kirk where you still into football when you watched The atlanta streets Super bowl course. Last football game. I father ever watched Yes yes It was my job to do the show the next day. I gotcha i gotcha yet. Now that that definitely cements brady is when my noted football players of all time i was devastated by bothers. Devastated after watching your. Would you blame your own team for that. I mean not. Brady's fall that was like fucking epa collapse. Pathetic performance by your guy was his name the guy with cisco the coordinator kid rock embarrassing embarrassing. Embarrassing atlanta's pathetic man. I'm happy mount rushmore. Bad sports cities. Atlanta's a pathetic sports city. tops stops. Yes wild terrible sports city. That's true one caller one world series twenty the ninety five world series And my dad. Great memories about that. But that's about that's about that conjoined with great memories of you. When you talk to your with your dad's he's still alive. Oh yeah oh yeah. He's he's still alive kind of disenchanted with sports values Not a thing anymore just to to jaded again sports. the greatest. it's see mendy growing together. Women together emotional. Winning is losing the triumph. This drama. This everything we talk with. mta burgess. She's the packers reporter for w. f. r. v. xiang right. now she's a she's tells me she's gonna hold on. Because aaron rodgers is talking right now should do a phone with us in a little bit above toner poor. Whatever and burgess. I have questions kick. Save yourself up steve They're still go. The books not make the playoffs. And when i saw that guy. I hate him hello he is he seems like i fucking hate him. We used to get along with. Oh i hate against brady one. He gave buffalo. Yeah take your time. Hey stupid yellow. yeah let's go. let's go with you talking. You're stupid wife. let's go get a buddy man. What's up yeah spot on spot on good game. Thank you on baby. Did some good things fell apart. I made the mistake mistake mistake mistake but hang up on me about three times. That that was upsetting. Well i can imagine defended this guy doing the flake eight. Like you wouldn't fucking believe like for you know for years. Did the film the sword because he was screwed over. But why did you the wells report. What percentage of your time would you say you were talking about deflate king. Oh i mean. Who's a hefty chunk for from the beginning from the beginning of the time. Forty percents three percents a great story. Anything else 'cause it's been a really good call so far. No he's what we're gonna do us. A hello steve. Now telling-off off little losers fucking loose In the patriots for the last twenty years. So i'll tell you. I've been here for years. It's not quarterback if the coach well we just found out it's a quarterback. Alright radi iphone. Okay i saw to. I said you've got. I said the coaches brain. We'll get older. The players body will in. I was what. He's a system quarterback. No no more paycheck's even taking benefits for the patriots. The patriots give up the left arm to keep this man. We need the organization should give their left arm the nfl. What do you mean my righties. Mascot the guy who sells pretzels and stuff. Top to bottom entire kraft family really was robberies. Left hand for at this point. That's true somebody else. Take care of all right. See one or two. Hello we have no calls. That's it yeah. I think they probably think you're joking. I was not it's wild. There's free advertise. This week's we do. we have to do advertising. We have your delivery service. Yes fresh delivers flowers. You've got you've got some right there. There really was. His name is fine company. Bucs boop so here they are bucs. 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The the patriots got where we got this week Well the aforementioned louis j gomez scheduled for tuesday wow big big interview than the enormous is sorting talk about With louis no mike for the show they on the more on these care for today. I saw that a new patron at entered the patriot world cow. Whose name of steve robinson. Most people would say has about eighty bucks out of context. I suspect steve onboard. Nice not meet power your the power. Liam you can eliminate this account. I could but he needs the money. What level you go in steve. I'm just a gearhead five. I'm not ready to move up to the executive executive gearhead low in. It's been unbelievable. It's been it's been a ride that you wouldn't believe so my do you taunt. You'll be taunting him. Should see what you're missing out. Till i was things like the people who bought the amazon stock. Like twenty bucks. You know like this for ten at success but that is worth when the climate patriot is a stock. It's going to be worth thousands of dollars. You're going to sell your membership for two thousand. How would never do that. Split at some point. There's no doubt that will be making a fortune off this baby. I hope so you know. I mean how many subscribers we have right now two hundred. That's not bad. I'm satisfied so my favourite piece of content. If i may is moving on from a reviewing old. Tv shows to reviewing podcasts. That review tv. Show look. it's a niche crowd. Our skill i'm giving gomez watch is seinfeld new. You know who knows very early on here. We can't give we're doing it. We're doing radically mike. Eight point four. I'm mike so well. So well he just. He thinks it's terrible but he will never give. Luis gomez ever bad review you. You think it was boring boring. That's absolutely not true if somebody else did the same content you give it a waiting. The reason why it's exciting 'cause he's never seen seinfeld. It's a very different perspective. Holy holy-moly believable newman newfield. Who is this guy. It's like if i had a non cheers fan. Sure that's the kinda whacking the somebody's experiencing seinfeld for the first time you you'll have a hearty laugh. You'll be hooked. I mean only a. I haven't heard anybody talk about seinfeld again. Well that's up to you. And paul you jerry seinfeld taking a lot of shit over the weekend from people. I don't get he was kidding. Of course you will. Larry king well he was but he was. He was annoyed. Yeah but i mean. He wasn't like fucking. Larry king's there was a great shot when he said larry said like simple some shows ran out and he goes yeah. Some people are tip. You can tell you a little annoyed but yeah he's job. There should not of course what happened. What happened your show. That's the episode. Today we pay tribute to larry king. Great run. I mean one of my favorites honestly company. Why he married one woman twice but he was maritimes seven different women. I think few of them had passed away as well. I can only imagine. But i used to do larry king with my buddy jim russo. All the time because larry king had the kings things in usa today was like whatever like jerry. You still of that too. didn't he. love reading the immediate used to. Yeah but now. I realize that larry king do it. Sounds a little like jerry though. Yeah yeah yeah. That's like any gruff voice like that. Yeah it'd be just random thoughts like you do usa today. call me find. The olympic loved to have lunch with jeff daniels. Don don yeah like but he got away with it. A kenny loggin's always good dot dot dot. He's a guy that was a star because there were only fifteen channels. Whatever would know who larry king was was initial stardom was on radio. Yeah he did the overnights. Nice to listen to a little bit. He would interview people and he was actually pretty good interview when he was younger. And with it. I finally king kinda funny like holy. I mean if he's doing real news. And should i don. I haven't seen enough of that. But like i think he's kind of in on the joke when he's asking stupid questions like that. Yes i would agree with that. He's also one of those guys that kind of rose to pop culture status if you needed generic interview in a movie or something like that you could easily have larry king. I think that's where younger people would probably recognize him from. Here's your here's Here's somebody tweeted. This excerpt from larry king's nineteen ninety-two. Usa today call them. Should pulitzer curtis on all nineteen ninety. Two is a bad year for political punditry. Abc's life goes on his television. It's absolute best. With the addition of barry bonds greg maddux and doug dre back national league west as out in front is baseball's best ranking best things whatever. Ross perot has can't be baba but the public loves it. When i was a kid. I was always excited by the mailman arrival. And i wonder now if kids get turned on when the fax machine as an incoming missive whatever. Dick clark takes every day. Please send me to us. Basically come on greatest that those subscription to that was. I would read them every day every monday. That's term was the first one really picked up on it and you should all over it. But yeah even bobby just like an unbelievable and he was like completely before it got whatever he was. Totally the face of cnn. For twenty years fifteen years and background is totally. Icon because mimic. You see them. Infomercials see it on skits. you see all the time he Maria profile about him like twenty years ago he would go to. A stylist was dc. We did the show. He get his haircut every morning of work. A little extra a little extreme. But i mean you know what was the one you tweet out the a woman describing and you know my stance on this but i think this is a genuine brutal. If you haven't. Steve might tweet though. This audio's kinda shit of this will we'll see we. She's describing a brutal attack right and you can tell obviously traumatized her and probably took a lot of courage for her to even describe it. What's your larry. Detail what you might wanna go towards end it like. How are. Mike doesn't get fat and mike doesn't like here. They're like this one here. The woman talking about giving away he said just around this corner and so he said well okay and just turn on the corner pullover and he saw my head into the steering wheel and hand cuts. You took my keys out. Threw him on the floor in poland handcuffs and hancock in and said it. Just ask if you'd be good you'll get her with the food off. I should've mentioned that. She was grocery shopping. Since larry's that is a gripping story to go. He was the best again. that goes up. Think call k. I think we're good. Yeah i tell. We'll we'll tell you know. Talk to get rid of. The flare will certainly have a conversation about that. 'til he removed on yankees made a trade. This weekend did they. They don't know the name from the pirates. A single name of a. I haven't seen through football by the way all first half hour. I've not this year with the bucket. I'm not seeing snap. The buccaneers wow. I think watch superbowl this. I'll be curious to watch the superbowl. Just as a spectacle. How are they going to pull it off. It was wondering about that. Because i'm usually in here on sunday nights and i was like i wonder if there's a chance we're taping during the super bowl definitely you skip out and you have to watch the game. I come here. It does undermine their home field advantage though. Not having a crowd there they currently does. Oh they are. I mean like. I think they said like fifteen thousand people know but it'll be home crowd those oppose the most balls which is kind of bullshit. But i don't even know about that. You know i don't know what do you mean. I don't think it's going to be buck. Nears fans the super bowl. Five thing whatever you want with care fine you fucking opinion like that. You'd better expect very blowback. People are gonna come. I mean hang on i mean. We'll talk about briefly. I don't think i can physically talk too long. I witnessed last night on to question. Have the luxury of just see so. I really drink in so the show. The justin tried to ban the show. The mike was on What's it called on the all. The mini family was very good. I mean i jumped. I didn't watch a lot of that. But i watch some using the having a good time because i want the youtube channel people fucking around these people who are trying to be stars in their own and shitting on this doing this with these guys just having a good time to idiots having a good time fantastic they have just on who we should was nothing. Around by the way. Senator justin nest dustin. Let's call him for his re. I mean he's a big packers fan. I think hockey is merchant. People throw with packers jerseys. They can buy buy some stuff. This is a kitten or something of the fox on his shirt. I was surprised. I was surprised. You weren't said how can i be. I mean it was duck duck contracting forget it was somebody who was connected to reality anyway after we talked about it last time i was on a tweet out my Crest yeah yeah. If want you the american say if you don't that's cool too so just you know. Leave a message at the beep. All i i i hate him. His wife counted every time she comes. It doesn't necessarily she's calling. I guess that's fair. Is he working for us. Still steve Not technically so. Well i mean. He hasn't done any work he's supposed to be doing the youtube channel and after After i saw him tweet out those merch links i was like. What the fuck is this guy doing. So i had digestion change all the passwords. Oh somehow that hasn't affected created a problem. Mastermind fight broken. Well that's true he's probably doing an interview with espn right. That's probably true. So justin the original. Justin drank a gallon of milk in thirty minutes. Right at the deal. Yeah like thirty seven. I think it was which i i mean. I don't understand why somebody would do that. But you know it was a challenge going around. When i was in high school really. Yeah all that type of shit continuing high school. Justin the question. I think we have to sit down and have that conversation about. I don't want to hear pressuring letting people peer pressure you into doing what having justin kind of enjoy this says. I'm gonna I mean didn't do it. He said he was gonna walk. Thirty six miles in a day on the tissue night did did the idea of chow fell about thirty. Two miles. short regard does happen. It must've been pretty satisfied to pupil win. He did make. He did win the challenge last night so he drank it. And then i can't even describe what they saw. It looks like it looks like it. Looks like the exorcist. I mean there was just milk one. What point he looks at the camera doing on camera or something. I have no idea. They said it was some redstone. Doritos is that right is look at the cameras. Like oh yeah you like. This is actually the blood from his fucking stomach. Don't worry it's not blood. i believe. That's what he does off. Did commercials commercials. Years ago was a remember. They did him with a series where they the guy doesn't go on the plane. The plane crashes his whole horror series from destined final destination. Yes my right. is that right. Yup so they do. The previews like the show scare the movies. They actually have a camera in the audience. I'm talking about the camera. Mic there all while justice puking because mike us liked gyrating puke. We've got a camera on him. But you'll see it folks i i mean i guess he was a good sport. I'll give him that. Yeah just in place long does when he's in the right mood. Yeah low-key excellent part of that. Is i think that guy named tim. As justin's puking he's like twenty twenty one's going to be awesome harsher puking up a gallon of milk in one solid fucking pillar of milk foam broken the vicious cycle of corona vibe. You fully had done that one year ago. Twenty twenty the puke in like a trash can or bucket or something. I just just like going in the. Nfl just stays in. That can be again the next morning. So what did the chatter on twitter. I can't remember said And amazingly after he puke that up the room in smell better off. That's weird off on you. Twenty twenty one talks not great but vomiting. Who else is going to take on your fancy no news. it's all fucking talk about biden trump. I thought it was going to be over yeah. Cnn is still so fixated. I was looking for like any other news. I what gets. That's what gets people. Well i guess. I thought about trump anymore. I mean what's he doing. Just hanging out at mar a lago. the only one that kinda interested me is that seth rogan will. Stop fucking going at ted cruz. It's like forty third man. That's boring you. Office created a burner account yet tall. I wonder as it's probably true Yeah i mean. I was seth rogan star is the thing about gallic. That now is trending this morning as a quotes. Got nothing to do with comedy. I know it's nothing. Nothing good being funny could be him being a grump and battling with ted cruz. And it's not you would expect if cetera et cetera. You would expect them to either. Make a good point funny to fuck you. Fuck you stupid like great. And the shit. I love seth rogan grownups. Just sad to watch this. I mean he's just become like accenture. Baron cohen sat there all grump. Now there's no you fucking one you one. there's no. Sasha cohen hasn't won because face-to-face have been you know league allowing some amount of free speech like there's no Like you know went from there was like adam sandler elvas guys. Seth rogan was kind of in that class like when he was he was at the top of making funny movies. Yes that doesn't exist anymore talking. You know from what like when you want to give his peak you'll started. That would be but which was the best move. Which are i mean knocked up. But i'm saying i'm saying is his up saying his run a star started with knocked up. Charles knocked off all the way through till this is. The end was funny still. Yes we like a six or seven but even even like i didn't like it but believe me like the woman sack from was big hit right abors sequel so it's really a six or seven rumble. A big movie star. And now you look like fucking look at the sky board s to be like political ship with with with that as commercially do with amy schumer. And that's right. And i think is mother-in-law or something has alzheimer's is because i wanted to testify that a times that's cool. I got no problem with that and be political if you want but then be funny once in a while big deal even the thing that franko the band that's cool. I'm fine with that but like it's you know now it's like you see him. You see. sasha is nothing it's no caller. Id probably in. no. I don't think so. Why do you say that. Because he's never called before like that. I can call them right now if you wanna. Let's see it must be very busy. I never thought of that. He's also made a tremendous amount of movies to long long shot. Did you ever watch that wish. Decent reviews terrible. I actually. I didn't make it through it. You know at the beginning of the twenty said. You didn't make because i was opposite at the beginning i thought there was some funny lines at the end. It's like they just hammer you over the head with a political message bar. She's i mean. Can he move with barbara streisand. Yeah observant even made fun of that. One observe observe reports accident. It's actually pretty dark actually because it got overshadowed because it came out at the same time as a port so people were like oh this probably sites right but it was a green hornet. That was bomb. I was a mom. It's we try. There's a little you know didn't work any of the night before you did like a christmas movie or something. Who's okay with joseph joseph gordon. I think i remember that one but he did. What was the other one. He made those terrible plush forgetting but he says he's got some good ones too. But just i see this. You find ted cruz man. Just it's amazing. The amount of people that the amount of comedians that are so worked up about politics and there was. It hasn't been one funny. That's incredible here. Ical cillian murphy. And he nothing book thoughts exactly play nothing. Nothing zero and it's says they're all just the chelsea handler showing their boobs on a ski lift just takes over their whole page to really get. It's like easy applause from your crowd but these people one of the negative consequences of trump presidency. Like i'd bet that's a dragged into politics. They eldest lost their fucking minds. Oh and that. But like he's gone. I think it over. He's gone. i think part of it was. He showed them how powerless they are like. All these powerful people beautiful people in hollywood can get together and make a video and fuck you. america still gonna elect president trump. I guess i don't when i see that shit like because i don't follow it as closely as you guys when i saw something. They like chuck schumer said they're really going to go after trump and shit. It's isn't that impeach complete waste of money. Yeah yeah i mean i. It's the he's done. Yeah go if you're joe biden if you mean it now focus on being a great president. I'm rooting for you. Fantastic go get him. I don't know what the fuck is doing but we were you looking for. Steve of is a little bit of audio of chuck. schumer talking about why. They're impeaching trump. All right but make no mistake. There will be a trial and when that trial ends. Senators will have to decide if they believe donald john donald john trump in saudi direction. Roy remarkably there was actually a payoff on that political owning. I hate that too. That they think they're being so donald john trump so is hurt from trump. Could you yes. Yes his phone number see. They're still adjudicating whether he's gonna be on facebook. Trump could make a video. Don judaica put it on right year came off of that. I'm not sure it might get kicked off it. She still doing postgame. Recaps true in shrimp cam. C o j. Just put out of you reacting to the game did. He can't catch a break hippie. She'll be safer bills though. Well those nervous for them. Saying i think it was waiting to face brady toward the world. Yours children we finally get tom brady of the conference. Get him out of the east. And now it's the same old story we win tonight. Tom brady again. I'm just saying some should kill him. A murderer double murderer out there that introduces himself as yours. True true. I wasn't talking about him. Talk top level of lawyers. We know that right what's up. What's his name. Malcolm laverne hoping number that guide us great. That was him and john mcafee. Later in the show those would have been people would still talk about it. That was early here though isn't he. No no malcolm verma colony nine. Oh they both were. He was here but mcafee was in august. They're both in framing. By the way we got a blind. Mike mcafee right here. He's advocating a tax boycott on his podium right. Why getting fired up about these unrealized capital gains or bullshit. Believe it or not. I listen to an entire episode of moral cooked in this guy tweet on my show block them. Just listen i understand. Yeah real money in your pocket. That was burning the whole rare. It's not easy. I don't wanna pay for it book if he keeps investing this fucking smart strategy that he's been talking about. He's going to have been hand money pretty soon. I think so. I mean you see huge. Learning on mike. Would you have money to try to take it from. It's only a worse. The president biden. Just telling you telling me this guy david. What's his name lenhart. Yeah i don't know now reduce your heart. Yeah so his people said he's not available. Oh is that true. Such a shame so so this guys writes a story called the vaccine road trip for the new york times. Good morning the by the ministration. Good morning the by administration has a huge amount of work to do to get the virus under control. I took a sixteen hundred mile road trip. This week left me. Even more amazed at how poorly the united states is handled. The coronavirus m more white. About how much work. The biden administration has new the under control. I want to tell you that story this morning. good. I'd like to hear it what we thought when you clicked on the article. I with the washington. Dc area with a vaccine role has been even slower than most places. My mom who's seventy five and has been leaving. My family for the last few months is when the people try to get a shot. It felt impossible for fortunately shedding alternative. She normally lives in colorado state with a somewhat better vaccine rolled by checking repealing online. She got an appointment in colorado. So again this is a guy keeps my wagging his finger. At how americans handling the crisis thing and how you know how shaky they abandon. How a reckless. They've been so two of us got in the car and spend a couple of days driving west. My sister lives in denver drove east. We met halfway in saint. Louis then drove back to washington and my sister and my mom denver. We grateful that she's about to receiver. I shot so. This guy is bitching while he's ruining across country drive. Yes he's he's trying to exploit the vaccine distribution systems ism. Yes so we did this drive. You know how he said. But i came home for my trip shaken by what height seen so he got so we got back in the house and his wife was like dave uk. What's going on with. would you heat. Your car's sousa. There's a chill wind in the air like soup. There's many slippers. Lots of placards have shaken by what i've seen. Tv my god what happened. Did you see men murdered fire. What did you see. Did you see death at a gas station. And in the end it was a sign on the door saying that people do wear masks and they ignore the signs. God david your blue code blue froing. He's fro children frozen to death. Icicles forming back from my trip shaken. By what i'd seen talk about. Have you seen ghost hunters. Shaken were cited susan. I have told you the worst part yet. It fairfield a middle-aged couple at unmasked the lobby so for hours drinking beers and scrolling through their phones hotel staff evidently did nothing about it so couple of levels top chivalry top-shelf reported this guy is hotels to have evidently did nothing about it so we didn't ask and to believe that i don't know which fairfield did we in the name of this couple by him saying they set the lobby so for hours drinking beers and scrolling through their phones that means he had to sit there and watch the entire time right out two hours. I think you upstairs whatever it first of all. That's scared if you've shaken and scared of this. Do stephen. I do when we go on the road for these trips. You are you check in the room you go up and you stay in your room. Now steve rolls down. his pajamas. picks up his food. But you go in your room dave. I guess just sits there evidently in stares at these people drinking beers which it's people to fucking sofa fairfield lima loan by the way. If you're drinking or eating you're allowed to take your mask. Down like are is supposed to have cut a hole in the mask and have a straw sip their beer. Maybe he was immobilized by fear. True there and watch sorry. Okay crank up the heat right mother of god i mean look. The other guy freezes the drinking first of. Do you believe that happened either. Do i and like you might have seen some people to do his job. Accurately he can't go upstairs and then come back and they're still there for all. He knows they've been gone for an hour bullshit. The essence of it is true but again around so if it gets worse you think that's bad at a convenience store in indiana hand drawn sign on the door. Red face masks are required. Pleased under without one from customers did anyway gas. Well listen you. Br hand-drawn really creates imagery. It's almost like it's almost like it didn't happen. That's chill windy a year. Mike turnstile of people coming. I just thought the idea of like the wife is asleep. The kids are asleep. Dave slams the door he's got with this trip and he's just shaking his way to that was just collapses pours himself. A scotch also the night and faints. David what did you see out there. We were in south carolina in the fucking mountains. You go the supermarkets. Everyone has a mask on the mask. On every ingles little gas station we stopped sign at one guy never mask on. Its but but like most people a mask on. I don't believe i don't believe this story at all. I just don't believe it's fucking bullshit. He wrote it because he wants to get it makes it seem like he's getting some point across virtuous because he unlike the rubes in middle america he cares about corona virus. Why do you drive shit. Who cares about his grandmother. More his mother yes. Mother is stupid mother. He cares about her more those low class idiots that have the goal of a meal. John living she's going to get the vaccine and have an adverse reaction to it probably just killed his mother of making true. It'd be shaken then. But i mean i hope she's fine. She's loving glimpses of those boys. Drinking beer only stayed inside. It's a quiet night tonight and dave's wherever he lives. Dc is it there it is. I think new york. They both sleep sound asleep and all the sudden. Just you know lights be the manual before this trip like that. It's too late leaving david. I'm taking the tower. I'm going back on the road. But for the love of god. Keep your masks on. The side was hanged drawn and yet they didn't have masks anyway. So go. just remember who you were before this man is. Oh oh my god. I love it. I love stories like that. I love him and he won't come on the new york times. Pr department said he not able to grant requests after bar this weekend. You see that some girl same old thing was when she got destroyed she was like there. Why would they figure davies talking. Yeah yeah she took on her calmer tweets all saint fucking thing like jesus. Christ what is what could you make bad. And i'd love to try we have. What could you make bad. The greatest hand if you find out that a company like one company may deserve it more than another. There's still fucking trying. They're doing more than the government's job. It's more like i. Don't you know it's nice. They're doing this but don't forget that they said this once and this one's and this one's like okay great. Their money spends the same unbelievable. What else is going on well. The ceo friendly's has replied an audio memphis here to see your reaction to that. Was i wrong on that one. Like i think you guys should do it better right now. He's already upset me. This i i know i feel like i know. You're what your reaction to things will be pretty well After listening to you for many years. I think this guy will turn you on this here this email and no no no no. He's a funny guy he's very. I don't think i need this cuts. I think you should take some hold on. you know what. hey wednesdays. Open that third chairs open. That's true. I know it's a good point. Consider this craig's audition all right as we get rid of the two thousand twenty twenty twenty one is the guy with the guy say on the on. The family can be awesome cuts clothing. Enters the world of the kirkman. I like it. They take in a classic men's fashion staple the plane t and refined it combining premium quality with a minimalistic approach. Shirts polos hoodies sweatshirts or made for men at work. Hard play hard. Never settle for less. All in the sport of business for boardroom bar. Jim keeps you shopping over. the game. Takes you it's five years old now. The founder this the perfect tee shirt. I like this cheeky magazine. 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There's a nudist friendly's become higher my geary just to give me an rate of course so did i. that's right traits. Did you re friendly little place like washing down the street. They just my own pay to watch me dish wash. You're at friendly's years were you were friendlies. Twenty two thousand eight nine. I guess okay so sort of put past the real peak but still the two thousand nine probably some of their worst years maybe seven. Oh yeah it was rough. That's when they started closing down. I think denying any responsibility kid imagining so can't imagine me are the lung. Medication was thriving until closed down years. Later i'm sure so so so. I criticized the company on i. Praise them for months of imprisoning him. Crops is make. It seem like. I've never talked about friendlies before mike knows summary talked about i i this past summer. The friendliest i did friendly stuff eae i love. Friendly's i loved friend craybas thinks he's created you ear. I love. I loved. Friendly's i want i wanted to do well and then they came up with this idea of bits and triple me this and this crap and now it sounds like i'm gonna hate this guy even more knowing the toothpaste guy. I'm a little annoyed. That's stay don't you. That's skirt bit of a big six. All saying the product say people who think they are part of the family. Had i not interested in that. I could kirk comma jared comma first off. Let me start by saying that. I have never been called an asshole before someone has met me. You see because often. After they've met him i know i've got it feel like he's a real real piece of work. Usually that comes after they have met me. Quite quick trip to the craig's here here. It's a bad joke but let's at least let it be doubles down. Because the guy physically walked into a bar so he says ow there to jews. You understand essence flu. You flew yourself in cross. Your arms would be tired. See what i'm saying. So there's always a i but thank you. I am still fan of your show and found your segment funny despite your vicious hurtful tax attacks on me and my team if you care to call me that going forward though i will introduce you to my wife who has first rights to calling me an asshole. He's a real self deprecating at home. This guy's a real handle as you can tell previous. I want this guy out hostile takeover and not sure if you want that battle but have that okay as you should know my wife physically fight convenient as you should know my partners and i have just recently acquired friendly's restaurants. I heard a few weeks ago. So i am not in a position to resign just yet but i will confer with you if you decide if i decide to go in that direction. That's it i find. Your show's very entertaining. And hope that you can still be a fan of friendlies in the process of reinvigorating the brand to preserve many jobs and countless memories exclamation point. As i understand it. Your team had asked for some suggestions for potential segment and it sounded like you wanted to do something fun with us. So i do apologize. If that wasn't what you had mind throwing me under the bus the hell is your team. Did you ask that. My original email was a producer for the kirkman handle sales and live event planning. What are you guys thinking for an event so it was basically like what. What kind of money are we. Not now it seems that cradle pissy here a little bit. He's trading. I'm a. I'm a funny guy but we can only joke so much. I hope this email finds you on a good day as you sounded very angry during your last mention of us but please continue to be a fan exclamation point. Because i was a big fan of this show i believe to. Ceo's typically use this many exclamation twits. And i learned conference in fucking napa or something. I believe many of your listeners are fans of us and hope that will continue. We have a lot of great things in store for friendlies this year and can share them with the community have a great new year in stay friendly crack stay friendly so i mean from not know non apology. No poll now gone goodbye saying hey look look. You've met your match. Pray your cost jobs. I want it. But i am not supporting friendly's anymore now that's why i mean. What do you to do mike. What do to do. I think you have to look past. His field is not joked the world of jokes so he should be. He should be literally falling on shit. You'll be doing honestly should be adjusted the night. You should be catching justin shit in his mouth off. I'm serious. I'm dead serious then i would. Then i would say that should be right there diary of the mouth in your throat. Throw that by craig's craig craig's. Do we got an idea. A fan of the show at all absolutely not and he tried and they tried and they pitch an awful idea and so go away good luck. I don't know what the red claws reach back out. I appreciate that. I am not no death penalty. But i'm saying neutral. What if i could go. What did they hear this and say. Hey we get it no more ideas we want you to do a live show and just save us you mean no no the answer is no they blew it they blew it all right steve. Well i mean. I think you've outlined the possible path to redemption for crag so the ball is court just reasonable request fair. No i'm not a letter was a pure asshole. Does he have to get an asshole. Ceo i know people like that trying to be funny. I ate during the world comic. Eric dini with handle met their match up saying way. So does he have to catch it. Like directly out of the mouth or could eat drink. It from the trash can no. He's got he's gonna to do. I think he's got to combine a couple of things from the show the past week that but then the way corrobos we do it. I want i wanna injustice asshole. Want craig the eat out of his asshole. Funnel stick wherever where justin putin into a trash can trash. Can you put the trash justin benz over you. Pour the trash can write down his back in new just out of his holiness. Oh craigslist eats it. Right out of his ass greg. You want the live show or not pal. I mean what do you say. Hey do you wanna say friendly's or not you know how many people are out of jobs if you don't do this. I want that. That's sort of saying i purposely. I am not dropping a nuclear bomb here. I love friendly's. I want from these well but this guy is an asshole. And if he doesn't do it he's just being unreasonable over backwards here. He hasn't really all you're asking you to do is drink a gallon of vomit phil fan of justin's bucket. Even if you put it down there it's a it's two seconds down there yeah probably justin's asshole as fresh as a daisy. Sure he clean is very well. Kept and really guarantee would crate. Our to me not unreasonable. And if you're just in most likely didn't like digest that milk now getting next two percent. Osceola is basically breastfeeding show. Essentially come back well. I'm lactose intolerant. My wife says i should drink milk anymore. He's makes me plenty of shit right. Yes some people. Call me an asshole until god god. Jesus responded if you don't think he'd ask you got a gal that really live on the youtube channel. But i mean that's you know that's that that's that's an asshole letter. It's just like you could tell the guy's an asshole you can tell corporate. Yeah i guarantee the people who work for hates him. I know people like that was a little bit of a. He's going to defend his defenders. Gale here the comms lady who sent this. Because i'm sure she heard it and she actually four he and she cracked an email me. Craig dash out a letter for her to email to me it to you. I don't know if he's an older guy doesn't know to actually the opposite because you didn't know she sent that letter right. What do you mean the letter. Originally thought was from him right. And then sylvia says hi. Steve quoted the second and then passes along the mexico thrown is brought under the bus and i tried. I tried and what else i can do right. I mean there. There are other businesses to save next on the list. I love poetry. Just here's the thing mike. They'll never reposition when you have to do that. They'll appreciate it. They will be like. Hey here's the puppets platter. We ask all the people calling and ask me questions about popaginos. So as i was listening i was. I was saying this out loud. I was saying whoa ask what. That's what i'm saying like you. Want them offense. The conan and ask is it about friendly. They've save doing time this show. We're the number and say we're going to do me this. Ask her questions about friends. Three of three calls to say like it. Frivolously me this. What's your favorite item on the menu. How many flavors of ice the joke dot com is no joke surreal dealer original online jeweler. 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Jimmy's yeah for sprinkles right if it's if it's a donut singles sprinkles if abedin heard bemberg jimmy's on the donut. Oh i guess that's true you saying yeah that's odd. That's what i'm saying. Well this is you get good conversation this. Maybe i was wrong potatoes. Come from idaho remain. We'll find out they load up. Steve no no. They're not no. They're not craig calls and he calls one. Oh god in craig from me this they probably this me. That who's your Favorite visit from rhode island as well. Craig wanted to tweeted out steve. I did delete. This was nice cars. Raising the i you. This guy was just call all right good god what. Tv shows even reviewing all. I wanna watch tiger woods document. It's probably my next. Are the book i i watch it at some point on that. What's left to say what he's what's crazy that i did not know because i wanna watch the documentary. I came across article. Something unless there's more to it like he was also a kid when they met or something one of the girls he cheated on his wife with. They met when she was fourteen. Really never heard that mentioned. Jesus was he. I mean they didn't mention that but they really good these two when she was fourteen of christ never heard that. I did not know that interesting. Luke one call to wait till they're low that firing up from me. This i mean people have real friendly questions to ask some willing to sacrifice my chauffeur fifteen twenty minutes every week or so state at least calls. That's nice that's what we do here and take friendly's call minna fan. I like guys minna. Fans lands day. You know what that means. Time for me this craig. Welcome back on the the ice cream you scream. What what flavor of ice cream you brought in for us today thinking that you should have just done an interview with can do it. I've done enough of those. That's true was really good. Ben and jerry's ice cream off those vermont liberal a gallon of your milk right now. You guys also have the chocolate chunks in your peanuts really separates that i think steve two calls. Let's take them gotten from me this. Hey from me that. Hey what's up. Hey andrew familiar very five minutes on their own from the forest is a some informed site literally watch essence that florence in western mass. So if you're hit up shown there you go okay. Where's your friendlies. Question is the question. How long did blot blind. Mike actually work out at families in this segment. Eve gold four thousand dollars. Probably want to pulling up for this thing. I was there my junior year of high school girls a year that or like no. That's interesting you're probably following up on. I think so. Yeah you did in my head and thank you for the call moved. Onto westfield steve. We got to know nice. Let's take him three. So kirk Frugal media for me. This i my my my grand. My late grandfather in two thousand ten was at a nursing home in willamantic connecticut. Last time i ever went to a friendly's he was withering away. And i go get him ice cream sundaes sprint and i would bring him. I'm sorry one second from your from your personal story. Steve as the ice cream. Sunday special this week still going on from these. Yes friendly's dot com slash kirk. You can get all the details there. Okay okay great tuesdays to ice cream. Sundaes for one mike. Yes if you can find in your local supermarket. Talk to the manager. What everyday's is a sunday at friendly's guy didn't your story though i've probably got him at least like three sundays. 'bout five bucks a clip. He never ate him. So i just wanted to be. If you get in touch with craig maybe. I can get a gift card or something to that. I mean that's fine. Sure thanks for the call. Have a friendly day. But i would say the gift card lines right here to. Oh by the way. The craig mentioned the gift card discussed. No a million dollars in the gift card. You mentioned lifetime. No apollo counter off no gift card no counter catherine craig literally no no no reference adjusting though can eat my fucking asshole. Fuck you craig. Fuck you i want you gone from is like this care home all the time. That's right that's true for the ball and chain be great if his wife with just into him everyday sock you loser. It'll be great when his life shows occur gun pussy. Hello firmly this can friendly questions for us. what's up. What's the tree at the bottom of the friendly which cone i've had to finish. That is an ice cream bowl like a gumbo or no. It's learn the inverted ice cream. Count the witch hat leading the treat buried at the very tip of the cone. What is it okay there. You go thank you. That's a good call right. Thank you buddy. It's a great cause wrong. Steve i gotta run in there and plug in. My camera is to that people are gonna miss. This is magic. Does al taqwa magic spoon. 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We're grateful for that. That's loyalty right there. Baby magic spoon dot com slash kirk for the best cereal healthy cereal. You'll ever have in your life. Get moving on magic spoon today. Magic spoon dot com slash. Kirk five dollars off right now so we have to scrap this one and go start at the top because the contract friendly's asks for the full video for friendly dot com. Listen this is for the price of her. How you gotta do that. They want me to mike episode of veterinary. I i kinda hooked it up. Some more from these cost him for me this. What is steve's response to that guy by the way you a word busy solving murders the boy but frills. Hey frugal me chirp. How big of a douchebag pseudo intellectual the at the be to force in the word cudgel about a half a dozen times over the past three months. i'm not sure. Hold on caller. We'll give you a chance to respond. Much of that relates. Is that some of the in the friendly's industry or somebody was working at friendly's how does that tie into our great great partners friendly's i'm just wondering how vegas to ask kohl his actual out to be are you are you are you. Are you asking. Stop times over the last three months. I'm using. he's using my use of the word. Cudgel has a casual against me in the middle of no less. Can i mean you have no friendly's questions ugly i'll be missiles no wonder why eight how the the weekly abortion as frenzy sir nice crimson. They get mushy and this is a resemblance there when you say short in the fetus post. That's is friendly. Cherries pro-choice true. You're not wrong. I'm not sure on that. Well for me this will take one or two more for me. This hello kirke. Hey you're schalke guy. Yeah like chocolate from starbucks. Dunkin are from these better The hot chocolate at friendly's is m- is okay the chocolate documents which i like about. It is deadly consistent. You know what you're getting close south carolina it's like it could be in valencia california. It could be horseheads. New yorker could be in winchester massachusetts gonna be the same which is like a b. minus starbucks the starbucks chaka's when it's good. It's really good when it's bad. It's bad so i can say gimme the gimme the b minus the be from dunkin donuts every single time. I go dunkin starbucks friendly's how about you yeah yeah dunkin dunkin. First all the way on kirke. That's not really acceptable for frivolous at that s. The question i would take one more. I'm happy to promote the product wear presley oppressed and blake the guy that started. Friendly's you know where he lived. I don't he's lama. Unbelievable it's right. Wow two friendlies legends from east lines unbelievable about that. But i do know and as i was about to tell you that i started thinking about this and i was like that could have some skeletons and he had like a mansion in east meadow. Yeah he's we're all disgusted by this story. How kids go there fishing. His backyard thinking meghan wondering if there's anything we've talked to craig about mike being the mascot worth outfit and dance around as the official mascot. Now i haven't respond. Okay old triple-scoop geary there. What do you want buddy february. This i should say hello for one vo. Who just fucked what's what's up. What's going on the hardy. Dropped him all right. One more from me this kirk. This will now become by the way weekly. Thank you just do theme song next week. People on twitter must be thinking they're taking friendly's calls again. That's the way this hello your path i love the was. I guarantee someone in new york. It's gonna be like that's odd. I haven't seen a friendly's contract come across my desk so we do it. What do you want from me this. Say good evening for nine yes. Hey i never been to boston. But you're in and out in california. I ever had in burger and california the fuck is this guy doing over rated kelsey this california. What do you think. I'm doing. I'll say this i will say this. I'll take the friendly's classic to you know shut up go hang yourself okay. I would take the friendly's classic hamburger over the in and out hamburger every day of the week and twice on sunday with a sunday for desert. Really that's right. I hear a lot about this. In an outbreak over rated overrated. Disappointing the louis. J gomez hamburgers over. His outrageous is making some not overrated. He's not okay all right. Thanks it for me. This that's brought to you by steve. You do the copy formula for me. This is brought to you by friendly's have a friendly day and remember to stop at your convenient locations go to friendly's dot com if you're looking for a location near you and remember on sunday use promo code kirk you get ten percent off meal who i like that. Stay friendly. stay saint next week all right. What else is going on in the song calls and yes we do have some parodies by the way a liar guy. Getting some fucking heat on twitter. Well yeah. I don't know if you've heard the show jared mike on friday jerry to these never laughed the parody song. Yes let's just not for him and that doesn't surprise me that much either but i think it's almost like trying to cool when you say that i'll find those funny that's the thing remember. Kfc said that he's like fans. Do the ship parody. When did he say that's corny anyway like what's they watch football games they gambling with about. How edgier they perspective all the fans you guys can stop sending me the Over grandfather. We got fifty followed by way of gareth grandfather's impressed with your ability to find that. What's that did. You really think it was weird. That jerry doesn't go to his grave well. He said he was super close to him. But i i was very close to microphone. I don't i don't go. It was great. He can't drive okay. That's what i'm surprised you because you're not a religious guy so no idea of it know where it is. That's because i assume he was at the funeral at the funeral on the word is but we're in saugus. I imagined somewhere. Most recent most recent gravestone. I visited was whitey. Bulger's why can wanted to go take a picture win. Steve starts to talk to him once after a few years ago. Yeah even those sense now. Don't really visit cemetery for your grandfather. No remember we cancel. That's true how many do you want to start with and this one called beggar carcass ripley away. Bright put of their own. No we with me little girl guy. We see area. Know good naira jerry. So that was a bad one. No they try they song yet. But this one is called. Kowloon cabana this person. Emails specifically about the steve's aligarh guy and said you know what gonna do i'm gonna write a parody song to the same song that he wrote the one to aligarh guy mike taking some heat which i as the first thing. I an object to first of all guys legend. He's probably learning about it right now because he doesn't new twitter. I do not like this. I love this guy. I have nothing but reasons to hate. They hate guy. And i would say. That's unwarranted these. A treasure on to me like i said before he has. He is the one included chronic. Why have cut off before. He has full beginning to end. I cannot cut the song off like he's earned that writes enough to the show. I will say criticizing this guy. You're playing with fire because you know he's going to come in for you next that's true that's true corrobos good. Calhoun quebec cowan command. Okay egos by rocket. He knows his soundtracks with jet black greasy hair and his strictness son to wear out drinking nicer but when he gets her in the bed just assume she gives him head down south fassel. Spur hoping leans a starfish as well has his house. He is jerry. Jerry karabelas the human of jammie chocolate tossed salad agrees with your palate. Call tony cast is. That means okay. The guy who's on. Jerry was on the railroad name that growing up gene propoganda. We'll ship was progressing fast into dating asked so we went to cow. Got the ladder codename at the bar when the tongues down a bit too far in his doodoo. Jarrett's ask it split game. Gross at the walk decided to sell. So tell jared jared this on the top ago bass to mouth. He was dishonest. That's jerry jerry. Deraa biz jobs for buddy. He'd retire somewhere. Sunny steamed peas. A good one crop. Is you know as whatever three hundred thousand on twitter. Something like that huge podcast star. And i'm running. Saturday jumping around each of us a little bit everything. And there's a massive star and podcast arguing with this guy about something. Mike if you if you just ran plus you who these fucking lunatics or by the way imagine frontier crops like in steve text from geoffrey de low this morning. I think we're going to have y'all play frank. Kb nick next week could record. Monday for trivia. That's a week from tomorrow. So that should work. Check with stephen jared. I think be tough yeah. There's a landscaper isn't what are you tired. It's a long day at work. Good point on. We'll find out so it sounds like everyone says frenchie crazy like literally just like you know. Here's a look like has a phone in front of the playing. Well i guess we're not the cheat a- my we're gonna win we'll need we we get the truth on our side. It's true for the songs now. We've got one more so this was sent by a buddy of matt's a little while of mike so yes marine. Matt yes a big big fan of mine for sure. You can be more of a mike guy now use. He took mike side which is fine big. Beverly and how old is this song. I think he said it back at the beginning of the month. Okay so you're saying bad Just lost my emails now. You probably won't like it because it's a wrap. We a couple of good wraps over the over the years number. It's it's well produced for sure. Now you can rap. And then there. Steve cut it off early but there was one line that really been. There was a good line here up. Everybody committee never going away. Michael back again with kurkin like circle by site the right. Close your eyes. Because that's what became a blind camp graduate what he will descend into ryan tariff now back on album fits but don't out the bids my data thickness shit talking pawn fan kellen. I don't want to pay drian if a five hundred dollars. That was it credit here on the patriot. Dot com slash. Mike that's right and the other guys another craig. Oh my god well. He's more the on air guys. They're mentally is a high standard full team back. There actually has probably get more. Employees work paid employee. Nobody's paid little patriot. Tastes by cima. Some sure i think. I think this month i might be able to give them a little taste. Shirts are last week. no. I'm saying i think this month from the patriot. Oh give them a little something shirts going. I don't the i haven't even proposed dot com slash. It spring dot com slash blind. Mike fear a shirt needs as better shirts to me honestly g swell scoring anything else. Steve mike do you want to mike an opportunity to respond to portnoy's latest comments about. Oh i sent me. I've talked about am i. Oh i realize heard and death if you want that. Wow this is what i was going to say is my my take on a desire tweet no longer that like because i listen to you guys like kind of break it down like why the fuck busy. i think. it's just got to the point where he doesn't like me like he doesn't like my person. I don't think there's any one thing that triggered it. I actually don't think i was saying. I don't even think he really. I guess just default now when your name comes example it gives you a real one thing that i hate them for this reason. It's just like it's become a content. Me and it snowballs were now. He just does in his head now. He's like mike reflects. Yeah i don't like that guy right. And naturally i just don't think he likes my personnel. I don't even disagree with what he said about me. It's probably true. What did he say. I remember that. I'm not accountable or something like that But it's funny that he's saying because like when i worked the one i interacted with you know what i mean like. Dave doesn't really know me. So i was surprised. He had that insight on me. But you still talk to gas or no message to the other day actually about thanked him for. He's one guy who reached out to me and was very good way so i just thanked him for all. The factory ignored it. No you got back to me. What's good yeah Yeah i heard. I thought the same thing i mean. It's just dave. Yeah there's no. I don't think there's any real because if there was if i did something you guys were like. Is there something we don't know. I think i did something they would just say. You know if there's something sinister behind the scenes. I think it'd be like mike did this. That's probably true. I never really believed. Mike is a secret evil genius. No i i. i didn't believe either best. Yes whiz we. I don't know but i mean i think but like a staves got fifty thousand things going on so your name snake remarkable. It's remarkable that without all the stuff that's going on. He's still he's still can maintain this burning hatred of funny shows how much he has the he would never crosses mind to consider the may not be true. Like he's not gonna give any time to think about it. I was like. I hate the guy