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279 Teaser - Don't Let The Big City Perverts Fool You
"The photo as well as the feet actually belong to Sydney leathers, a political activists and Cam model who you might recall from Anthony Weiner. On the twenty six. He he really opened. He really opened the chaos ruin all goes back to him up. I mean, the diaries of Trump's president. Because of the congressman and he never even had sex with the women. Not a c. He just wanted to text the guess who has a boner prairie. Like, I I'm just really proud because she is also a Hoosier girl, and it's ninety seven when we get out of the small towns, I destroyed his career his marriage and the presidency the potential presidency of of Hillary Clinton to not have sex to send pictures of his bowl djing underwear way holding his own child. He freak one of the biggest. To scale like how guys we'll put it next. But we don't know how big that baby is like he could be a freebie. You don't know. Got that out of the ICU. He's he's like everything for the next century is gonna trace back to some Weiner thing. It's going to trace right back to him. He's like he's like his family at some probably like multi generational packed with some merchant who sold them occur like a curse vase or something. It just there's some portal to Satan through him. And he never even fucked them never even never even took out his dick Lynch. Character makes no sense. His perversion makes no sense. I just want to read finally from Reddit user jokes on you, like listen to this like, this is a guy who's just, you know, Admiral play just open like, I'm a foot-fetishists like, I know everything about feet, I love soak into hoes love looking at women's feet. I'm just a red at pervert for women's feet can't get enough of them. But listen his response about like, the click fact checking what is objective? Give information in reality. In the times, we're living now, like just listening to how much more sense and how much more sensible. This is literally anything else he says as the internet has grown. It's become increasingly segregated and debunking. False information is more difficult for all. I know. There are Facebook groups and forums where the veracity of this image is doubted, and there are definitely countless other fake images floating around it's relatively easier to bend the big names e IG Alex Jones from media sites, but it's impractical to police everything that goes on. Now, we also have governments and well-funded organizations with sophisticated online strategies to promote unrest or certain political positions. This issue will get worse before it gets better, go off toe suckers, sixty nine. So yeah, I just wanted to say shout out to the real heroes out there the Mods on Wicky feet that are like literally stopping fake news from happening that goes, just so civic minded s amazing. What do we have to remember for every Anthony Weiner? There is a good honest decent pervert there. Who's fighting the good fight or we'll set if there's hope it lies with the perverts? Yeah. There's there's a lot of guys. They'd just punch into their job. They're thinking about like women who are fifty feet tall. Just stomping on them all day. But they like help help people out the help like old ladies cross the street. They you know, the truck driver. They fucking pulled on their thing. When kids do this. Yeah. The thing. I did is a trial because there wasn't much going on. Yeah. It was super. That's wonderful. All those men. They went home. They looked at pictures of Jennifer Aniston blown up to be sixty feet tall and superimpose themselves being stomped on or whatever. And they're all they vote. They taxes shovel. They care about the future. Yeah. Don't let those big city perverts like one of the value.
15 Blogging Secrets That Successful Bloggers Dont Want You To Know
"Welcome. This is however, n-, and today, a topic of discussion with the fifteen logging secrets that successful bloggers don't want you to know. Have you ever wish that you can get your hands on the loving secrets of successful nuggets in Aretha in podcast interview, which shabby, I asked her if she can switch vases with someone for g who will she choose? I know what she said, Michelle. Just in case you never heard of Michel before this is not Michelle Obama. Of course, this is Michelle from the lug core making sense of sense. She blogs about LUSA, finance, as you can guess, and she, crawls a one point five billion dollar Mark in twenty eighteen bloom. Imagine making one point five million dollars from your plug, many bloggers get into plugging with a hoop of just watching their fulltime job, and we can from home, the ultimate dream of making one point five million dollars a year with just place the icing on the cake for them. Even if they're not food lets you see many bloodless struggle because there's so much. They don't know what it takes to become a successful blog. I will spend some time in different podcast episode and revealed to you. Fifty number things you probably did not knew that successful bloggers will never tell you. Now, before, diving you probably thinking is one thing to make money plugging wrong. Well. I need to spend some time clearing up. He very common. Misconception comes to lugging. Yes. Many people started blood with a view that they want to make money using that log, which is okay. The issue develops. When we flip Wisconsin blogger is to make money you see a blogger whole to become a blogger is essentially to start a business. This means that professional bloggers are technically and jeopardize, every successful enterpreneur meet money because they solved the problem for people. So what does that mean? Well as a blow your goal is to solve problem or south problems for your audience. If you're not solving, a problem, then you will not make any money at all. In other words, you really need advisor to the lives of others. This brings me nicely to the food. Lugging secrets, which is great context, spend some time looking at all of income reports from bloggers, and then look at the kind of content that they provide the audience you notice that most of it. Not all of them provide video high quality. Sorry, you would notice stuff if not all of them, provide high quantity, high quality content for free, no strings. Attach okay. Let me not become -pletely accurate as many of them, do not provide or do provide freebies as in Luke sheets. Cheats, checklists a cetera in exchange for your Email address. Some of them do charge. Release more fees somewhere between ninety nine cents and say twenty seven dollars for other things, however, you don't have to pay normally the high quality content that are locals it gives the audience tips and tricks, and how they can improve their lives. These employers provide courses as well as evokes as well, as, you know, anything that orient once more comprehensive information, or they once additional Vance information, or more intimates guidance on that is Louie provide at a cost as well. The bottom line is that you need to look at you content and ask yourself. Can you improve the quality of it? Number two on the list is buckets of conduct. So on the topic of content another closely cottage lugging secret is that successive nuggets provide a lot of content for free. I probably mentioned is ready. In the pass of one of my Minto's who receives go from one million page views a month. Publishes are on twenty five boost. Yes, you read that right? He publishes twenty-five locals itchy to his blog. This may seem like a lot. But if your blog was getting in mid impetus want, I'm sure you'd be doing the same in my interview with Megan few weeks ago. She mentioned that she publishes only one blog post, which is fine for her niche. She did mention that who won is of very high quality includes a lot of in that research and graphs statistics. So it's possible that you may be more like Megan where you do have you but very comprehensive on lengthy ones, and if you've got a chance, listen to that podcast. Megan also does Instagram stories and she spends a lot of time on Seraing questions, which audience and Instagram also runs a podcast, so content doesn't necessary. Early half only to be up locals, but could be, you know, whatever kind of content you're providing to general public on. She provides content all day long everyday on Instagram. So perhaps, you are more likely to be like, my mental where you need to publishing to on war boosts everyday identity. You really need to spend time looking at what works for your dick Lynch, sue, number three, Melissa is research. If you realize that you need to close a look at your Nici final, what works it means that you need to spend more time in research you see many successful Lago spent a lot of time researching image on the market, as a who looking for ways they can improve game. In fact, every blogger who wants to become professional at what they do need to dedicate time every week doing research on some level. If there's one thing I learned in this game called lugging is that in order to take things up level. I need to see what is working for others. It is not enough to keep doing the same thing over and over and over again expecting different results. Sometimes you need to reach out to someone else who were in your shoes for before for health and for mentorship. Which brings me nicely to investing in yourself at number four. So that's the Knicks booking secret secret if you want to grew the, the stuff that you knew right now is not the skills that you need to take a blood to the next level. I'm many bloggers that I'm I need on a regular basis who refuse invest themselves, but they want to become six figure earners. Of course, there is a lot of information that you can learn for free by YouTube, blogs and other freebies. However, if you want to be like, Michel, making one point five billion dollars a year, then you need a mental to have get you there in my low income report study, if you had a chance to look at that you'll find many bloggers on their make money blogging, as well as the spent money on Minto's in offline to become successful and does or even. Looking programs. I'm not saying that the free resources will not get you the eventually. After a lot of trial. And disappointments missteps s at tra- what I am saying is that having a mental investing in a course mix that Ginny a whole lot easier. Which brings me we nicely to number five, which is lugging his journey. Speaking of journeys, another one of those logging secrets that successful bloggers field to let you know, is that blogging news ager it is not a get rich quick scheme where you start a blog. I become a millionaire overnight. The reality is that it takes time and a lot of patience to catch you from point a to point b this means that you need a Susan kind of mindset at the start of this journey. If you start a blog knowing that, it will take imam two years following some training and advice than you will be prepared for this particular journey. On this Jimmy. You also need to crew and audience or even grew a try, which is number six. I think one of the scariest as well as the most of filling part of lugging screwing audience, you'll content would be made public on, you'll need to crew following of reading vans. Yikes. What if you mess up? Sometimes it feels like you're getting an audit responsibility of having more children to look after a bit like parenting, the good news is that growing tribe, is like bitch, a bit like parenting without pregnancy. The Trump the terrible twos. Teenage years schooling, the money if you've spent on kids. Of that. In fact, after giving a lot of value to that particular wounds unique venture to be paid for your efforts on. You don't need to twenty years to get repeats. You can probably get return on investment in two years. Once you start doing all the writings in plugging brings me ninety two several which is long hours, on fortunately, like parenting, lugging does involve, not of low hours for any Braga, but it's fun. It is probably the one thing up. Blogging reminds me of parenting, in every sense of lewd, you will find yourself doing many things everyday to keep your blood alive and growing I wish I had a much better news for you, but you can easily expect to spend. A minimum of twenty. An average of forty sometimes of eighty hours in a week on your blog, depending on how fast even to grow a lotta time is spent learning new skills. On one of them is walking. These number eight which is marketing is yet another blogging secret at successive plugs. Dune tell you marketing explode of time, in fact, he would spend more time Martineau content and you spend, creating it unless you have funds available sources task you will be the one spending to the fall was d- marketing blog. This is a specially true for the first one to two years, but it gets into. Automation, eventually after it becomes well known. Also, if SU is also, which engine optimizations implemented correctly, then this would be half the marketing. Number nine is SEO engine optimization. SEO is vital to the success of your blog. I am sure that at this point of the game you already off switch engine optimization. Let's take a look at the example of Michelle's plug, which is making sense, making sense of sense, but calm, who blood gets an average of seventy thousand Ganic visitors to site every month from Google. That's just from one source of traffic that's two thousand three hundred visiting from e single source of traffic in layman's language. It means seventy thousand seventy thousand people visit the site every month, organically with alter having to lift a finger. This figure does not include visitors from social media order sources of traffic, many bloggers are surprised that she's making so much money. It's sorta who? Traffic. However, the real secret to success is looking smarter brings number ten, which is looking slots, the tent lungs, Yuki is working smart. As a blogger there is. No need to look, you what'll to get one million patriots. When you could achieve success with a lot less pages disappoint. You probably wondering what you can do to smarter. Well, but shoot is the many ways wanna ties your plug the biggest hoodoo to make money blogging is to have an audience widely following. I already ruled a post on thirty seven weeks alone. Ties of luck leave. Lincoln the show notes. I think there's also podcast if I'm not actually sure 'cause in new podcast every singles. But let me give you a practical example. So many bloggers have a cool to get a twenty five thousand sessions months in traffic in order to get into Agnich code Legia, fine. However, you can make more money on your blog by combining your sources of income to include multiple streams, for example. He company of ad networks affiliate marketing selling you own courses can get you to five or six Neko income every month at ten thousand sessions, which is a lot less than what Michel getting, which is seventy thousand patriots. It does call us a blogger to think creatively on also to get mentorship because, you know, you don't do everything if you get someone who has listen, your shoes, and who's actually way you wanna be. They can mental you and get new from eight to be. Creativity is next on this, so bloggers creatures, which means that they've confined as assault problems using the creativity you creative, or are you a creator. If you ask me, this question, ten years ago, my answer would be definitely. No. However, over the years, I've come to realize that I absolutely joys of in problems. In fact, when people see province by seeing many possible solutions. They assume many ways that bloggers can get to their financial goals. It does require a bit of mentoring, and creativity by the fact is that it can be done. What is needed is vision board of what you see yourself doing for your tribe. Just wanna pause here for a second. So if you can understand what I mean by, when I see vision port, so as you, as I mentioned, I, I wrote a blog boost sometime in the past cat, last month's co way out, line, three seven ways you can make money as a blogger make money on I seven now any average loosen probably need five or six. The key here is missing division, board decide what you want your d to look like. So I'll give you probably five or six Apple's, you can make money, having you own e Kumble's, shop selling clothes, for example, t shirts. Whatever you can make money, selling t shirts, and somebody can sell principles for example, or that his ecus. You can have your own EFI shop. The you can do affiliate marketing. You can also sell that causes you can actually create a course where you have a launch every quarter once a quarter launch and be joined a course on. You teach to call us three months. And then you have another launch and so on and swan keep doing that on a time. You can make money from odd networks. So you can have like Michel seventy thousand hundred thousand million issues on, you generally wanna that we've from ads so far there several years, you can make money, the dunk side. As for example, you have an ecommerce store, and you're selling physical products. You can do it by Trump shipping, where you can actually have ordway house, or you can do true f-, the which is June Amazon as a. Reseller. So you ship products Amazon's warehouses in the u salon Egyptian stuff free. As an e ecommerce vendor, you, there's a lot more involvement to get employee's someone shoot a stocking to source items from China. You need to decide you'll think gonna policy what's popular, especially during them once of September to December and it's Christmas rush at the peak time for equals shops, make a lot of money. You, you have to be out to do that for you can have a more sucker. We of living of just having a blogging that we just use him. Okay. Staff at indeed to run. A blog is much smaller as you can have for, for ecommerce shopping of someone in China's Wilson goods, you have shipping people shipping products in you'd have LeBron production, the eventually shipping, derive in US, or you key Ross needs to get the experts, plus customer service team to manage all the different stores in the UK the US in Japan in France and Spain. It's Lee Jimmy. So you have, you know, all of that to manage when you come shop. Whereas if you have a blog you. Have writer someone did remarketing an Edito project manager. That's not you can be a freelancer on only doing then is you how big operation made him five again. Five employees again, someone who does video editing social media mine. Sure. What else is there editorial, you see project manager? So depending on what this is what you wanna go for you to sit on version of vision board of how you want your life to look like which is very important because there's several ways to make money online, you can make money but nothing unique or different kinds of weeks what it's what you want your life to look like and was reading an Email this morning of another blogger, who. In the beginning, she wanted to start a business online, and she wanted envisioned, her journey once businesses running, where she only works forty as a week, she's got to be over to spend time with kids, what she discovered up until last year is at she was spending, every weaking moment, answering emails, and we're inclined projects, and she's a video production specialists, and all of that of shoes, literally spend every waking moment answering plans meals, eight o'clock nights, and look in the morning, one of that three, you know, having clients, and then this issue decided. No, that is not. She's been back television born, she lies. That's not what she wanted. She even sent her kids off to hope grandparents, because she was so busy Wicky when she realize that is not what she wanted that you've been back to her vision, board, she realized what she really wanted is four days a week on four o'clock in the afternoon. And then she had the trio weekend, unrest of the wall. F- actually literally spent time to family and friends, so she started to set boundaries with clients, and she'd have no emails while office hours. She looks from ten to four o'clock every D wanted to charge the, and she doesn't look Friday, Saturday, and Sunday and that is why it's important for us as interpreters sit down on drop vision board. What is your ideal day week month year? Look like once you draw that, then you can set those boundaries very early wanting to business. Yes, in the initial stages, to get things moving at Trine about hill, an over with that potential to sort of explode. Skyrocketed, make money you need to know what that mission looks like in loan because you might not want on e comm with stole that involve on Angie, audibles employees. Yes, you can have a project manager or someone was seeing all of the employees, but that you'd have to have all of these employees, customer service that you need to sit down on these vision and say, what you want. You ID knife to look like for me every not having any comes store, 'cause they don't have to China, the source production. I just somehow and free my life. Look like I prefer a much quieter life would be a blogger, and look to show what kinds yet. But yet I, I knew what I would like to have my life looking forward as a week and full is the etc. The question is in terms of creativity, you need to sit down. I'm really map on that vision vision board. And what it is. You would like your ideal online business life to look like that. All of us are cut out to manage a large risk group or Facebook group, Facebook groups, some people have like four or five fifty groups where the pop in twenty four hours a D seventies week. But you can still support your members by setting up the Karak boundaries and using technologies. So, for example, you can decide to run a membership and not Facebook groups, you can have it on other platforms as vita out there that allows you to run a membership and still pop into support your members forties a week to a deal one hour, whatever it is having setup specic wolf's hours. Going to loon can be a slow process, but collaborating can get you to success fossil. Which means we nicely to number twelve another huge blogging secret is collaboration logging journey can be illegally one, if you choose to operate on your own, however, by collaborating with other bloggers who company mention that you will be surprised how much it shortens your entire lugging journey, the real reason for this is that the boat of you tapping into each other's audience and building trusts. What long-term? Yes, you will find that the people who will not pull the elite, but the vast majority will knock at your blog to the audience into you can walk it their blood to your audience, and the reach gain for both of us would've, you would be tremendous if you do this ten times with other muggers so tender from bloggers think of how this gonna improve. Marketing prospects. Jimmy even be some cost savings to be had overall by everyone involved, which brings me nightly. Number two, gene. Every time I see a blog Poos advising potential bloggers would be wannabe blogs that they can start a blog for free at make money. I feel absolutely sick to the stomach. Here's why if you plan to make money from your blog fulltime, then it should be treated as business. This means that wanting to start a blog for free is a bit unrealistic and setting yourself up for failure wouldn't get me wrong. Lot of free to and resources available to run a business. However, incurring a monthly calls should be expected as Momo. And here is example of once bucking cloak wonderfully plugging costs and what covered this sometime ago. But just in case you did not hear that particular episode. Oh, podcast didn't Broncos hear awesome expenses that you can expect. Sex fence, I three columns expenses costs and provider. I just cover the expense on the cost, and you can go back and look at the shooting at the particular providers that I have applied food expense one Dumais knee at cost for ten dollars a year. What you is web who's thing. At five ninety five a month a month. You could it would press themes with you blogging would press dot org. You could get a theme premium team preferably. Why? But you can stop it a free theme to be honest, but a premium plurality option, too. What's what I'm looking for to customize, the you'll blog to make it look the way you want it to look. More professional, I and this would press can cost between forty nine forty nine dollars. One time. Two six nine dollars. Just a one off. Course not on one because next Email marketing, which is twenty nine dollars a month. You have the free option of using a meal chip will meet a light, but you can convert kit at nine dollars. And then you've got landing pages, so. Landing pages, essentially are those speeches that people come to way you accident to opt into example? I'm a challenge minicars or an equal or maybe a freebie. So that's thing you haven't a page to avoid distractions from links normally have like you navigation barnacles that that's what you do with learning, peaches, some of the premium themes company believe you to have landing pages included thundered by other things. You have to buy learning peach thing. Separately. The most, I guess, used on successful landing page software of illegals quantum lead. Pages comes in at round tiny five dollars a month. There's also try bleeds. Architect landing pages at three three dollars a month. But you looking roughly are not that price wrong thirty dollars a month, Mark. You can get money beat is cheaper. But if you want. What I would. To very high conversion conversion rates, you can expect that the multiple money and you don't have to in the very beginning. You can probably wait a year before you invest in London, peach software. So looking roughly around five hundred untangle was once sorry, I joined ten dollars a year in year one. When he compered thought to buy into franchise starting Brecon water business. That is not a lot of money. So he can see this is just the course involving keeping the blood life on having auction to generate leads by Email meetings, building Email list, if you want to smarter than starting Email is really, really helps. A number fourteen love what you do. There is nothing worse than starting a blog discovering after twelve to eighteen months that you dislike your niche and the entire blogging process. In other words, there are many started a blog in area where he would not fashion each and you up after six months, many successful, blogs will tell you that one of the key logging secrets is that you love what you do. I can tell you that happened that happened to me, many times in the past, I started log fold roll reasons on I totally lost interest after a while it was a tool waste of time money and resources. Please learn from my experience extremes of many others start a blog in which that you absolutely enjoy that. We need it easy to, to get over obstacles, Little's as they come your way. And you know what Bill? At number fifteen routines, make plugging easier when I first started this, log in twenty seventeen. Forecast is was podcast went hand in hand, I will terrify because I was afraid of failure. I just wanted to coach. In fact, my biggest fear was that I would run out of content. Looking back. I just have to laugh out loud. Because no, I have so watch content that I need to write the I need help writing it having a routine on a content plan, explain so much easier. One of the imperative lugging secrets that comes knocking content if understanding lug silence. New your niche in the topic in general's wines digital marketing. Doing the research than mopping plug silos is so key to ensuring that you have struggled scuff content. Very few people talk about content. Silence on because it takes time to explain I was expanded its on separate podcasts. So in conclusion if you are one of my regular listeners, you know, that I can go on final few more minutes. But I will leave it there for now three Cup here are those fifteen lugging seeks again. Great contents buckets of content research investing in yourself. Looking Junie grew a drive long hours marketing S E would smarter creativity collaboration monthly course love what you do routines planning. I'm show there, another five others that I cannot list. For now, these other fifteen blogging secrets success numbers have been hiding from heat. The question is now that she knew what do you plan to do about it, so that you too can achieve success that you need? Remember to subscribe, to the self f- UNSCOM put cast where you will be the first to Hugh, what's happening in the interpersonal, untraditional marketing, you'll positive review of this particular, what causes fights, keeping it alive and running for the next twenty four months. So please positive repeat for us on teens spotty file any of your favorite podcasts players. Do you need a few local script of east remote your blog and check out these fifty on conventional these to much you'll business of the left linking? Shuttles I struggling with when it comes to writing quality content for your blog. Then checkout five greasy. Rubbing tips from Megan link is left in the show notes, if you want to take advantage of some free traffic from Pinchas check out, my, my interest trip interest of left Lincoln issuance, and you could also rob. The twenty two at successful dogs us, I've left link initials, as well, if you are thought of small bits, and you need to hire to assistant to complete staff such as usual media mortgaging lugging key would be able. Pinterest account management than take a look at packages that I have vehicle. Well, that's g until next time in joy the rest of day.
Episode 549: How Do We Never Forget?
"For January seventh two thousand nineteen. It's the overthinking at podcast episode five hundred forty nine. How do we never forget? Welcome to overthinking where we subject the popular culture to level of scrutiny at probably doesn't deserve the over thinkers are like, well, we're like a bunch a bunch of guys who met in the first day of orientation for a for an August and storied institution and have kept in touch throughout our entire careers, except our organization was not the United States Congress. It was a marching band in college. And we're still friends low these twenty years later, I'm Matt rather? And these are my good friends. Matthew linke? Hey, matt. Hey, doing it's really great to have you on the show was the twenty years. Yeah. Really? Do you feel twenty years older? Then I yeah. Oh my God. Yes. Did you actually expect you to be like? Nope. Not at all. And Pete Fenzl who know about you too. Two. Hey, I'm fine. Heavy breathing. Heavy breathing. Heavy breathing. Hey, listen. We're we are here to discuss the film, vice starring Christian bale as Dick Cheney. It is a a bio pic sort of. It is a polemic sort of. It is a it is a Maurienne documentary. Right. A morris. Tuck you mentoring. In the sense of in the sense of Michael Moore, which you know, it's it's less documentary than it is a film with documents and the number of scenes in which people pass, you know, top secret folders around is. That's a very high count. And and you know, we all have have seen this movie. Am I think we have? I think we have a similar reaction though in in different degrees to seeing vice so spoiler alert for vice. But it's not. It's not important. I mean, you probably know the recent history of who Dick Cheney is and some of the highlights of the things that that he's done a lot of his character is is filled in or at least lesser known episodes in his life are filled in but. But it is a film written and directed by Adam McKay, formerly of funny or die and more recently of the film adaptation of the big short. And this is sort of in the tradition of that. It's a it is a narrative film polemic. I think because it it is as much engaged in argumentation as it is in storytelling and uses a lot of uses a lot of different techniques to do it. And I think we I think we need to actually piece apart the different parts of this movie, but I will leave that until later. What did you guys? I mean, what what what what was the vice? Picked it in this in this fell. No, you know, what that's about intra. Let me let me go into this. Let me go into this different way in three. Recent works of kind of bio pic history. This sort of storytelling. There is there seems to be kind of an absence at the heart of the an absence at the center of the work and kind of at the heart of the character. One is the Freddie Mercury bio pic bohemian rhapsody, which we talked about on the show several weeks ago where you know, one of our knocks on that movie. Not that it was primarily knocks. But but one of the things that we pointed out about that movie is that it didn't have a coherent theory of Freddie, Mercury. And we talked a lot about whether you can have a coherent theory of, Freddie. Mercury given that, Freddie. Mercury was for a lot of his life. Figley coherence, another is the musical Hamilton, which is a among other things sort of bio musical of Alexander Hamilton and features a song called the room where it happens where talks about the the compromise that ended up moving the capital of the the new United States of America from New York, Washington, DC and the. The song called the room where it happens is about how no one was in the room where it happens, and like the that the compromise that was struck between Hamilton and Jefferson and whoever else was in their John Adams, maybe someone like that is is ultimately unknown and unknowable to us because no one else was in the room where it happens. And then this is a this is a film there is right before the the Shakespeare. Shakespeare scene where the narrator played with with aplomb by Jesse plummets. Who whose name should be Jesse a plummets for all the aplomb that he brings to the roles that he plays a really interesting actor who does who just ends up in really interesting work. He says, you know, we can't really actually know what they were thinking or what the decision to become vice president what what motivated it. I think the argument of the film is that there is a single sinister dark intention through throughout it. But it seems to it seems to also before grounding the idea that there is no that there is something ultimately kind of unknowable, and even to the extent that we have a lot of information, though, it the film also makes the point to say that records, you know, scrupulous records were not kept a lot of emails are blacked out. A lot of things were quote unquote, lost by the Bush administration by the forty third President, George W Bush's administration. Like that even even if we were to have all the mills that would be something fundamentally unknowable at the heart of the character. Though, it it seems to be having cake and eating it too. I don't know guys. Do I have Pete? What do you think? Do it. Do. I have a decent read on that. Or or do you feel like the film is a little less scrupulous about the annot ability of its subject than making it out to be. There's a couple of different ways to look at it. I think one and a lot of it has to do with what you see is the kind of primary energy of the film. I which I would substitute for intention because I'm not sure that this is a film where the intention. Attention isn't really the most interesting thing about it. Because the attention is pretty obvious. Right. It's that I don't like Dick Cheney. I don't like his politics, and I'm gonna make a hit piece about which is fine and dandy. But but the movie becomes a lot more than that. Because all of stuff that gets thrown into the blender, and so I guess what you're saying here is is when I hear that I'm thinking yes, there is an absence. There is sort of a symbol that doesn't really have an antecedents that is in all of these works. There's this cipher that is this person. And I I can't help. But think that that might be a failure? Or it might be a success because they might be approaching the idea of the bio-pic says it's sort of outdated Java that requires some sort of deconstruction is. Beazer of a postmodern approach to a bio pic where who the person is never really exists. And I guess maybe that's maybe when I think about this movie and how it relates to the mysteries that places inside Dick Cheney's head but then over with zone attention, right? Because it's not just like, oh, there's the moment where dick Lynch and you're talking in silence. And then and then it's like they acknowledge that they don't know what they said. But then they give you experience monologue, which says what they think they said, right? It's sort of like, this is a movie that's all about cake having cake eating eating more cake buying another Kate. Why dangerous to your health from when you eat too much cake. Exactly, exactly. Basically, the worldwide distribution of cake, and what sort of levers power are pulled in order for it to be distributed. And in that sense, it tries to have its cake too. So I'm not sure whether the movie is interested in kind of a materialistic sense, the energy of the movie in a materialistic sense of Dick Cheney is what Dick Cheney did and sort of what is behind the veil is a blank, right? Or is it that Dick Cheney is who Dick Cheney appears to be and his own intentions are irrelevant because he is as a movie called him a bag, and sort of party to thing that happens, and it it's we're not supposed to care what he wants, right? Like like, a or there's the ark of the heart. I guess which is the other weird editorialize ation that the movie makes which is which would put what the thesis of the movie is that Dick Cheney is super villain with one redeeming quality. That at the very end of his political career he sacrifices for good reason. Grooving the he is in fact, worthless human being I guess, I don't know. What do you think about all the stuff? I mean, first of all I think that in an interesting sort of contrast with the Queen movie that just came out feeling this movie makes more of a claim to truthfulness because the Queen movie took liberties everybody understands it's and I think the filmmakers will be a front about the fact that they, you know. Compress things time-wise. They selectively emphasize certain parts of the story for dramatic effect. Right. And they're a front about that that this is more to sort of capture the spirit of Queen and be like a documentary. Recreation of exactly how it went down blow by blow. Where's this movie? You know has this. Disclaimer at the beginning, that's we did our we did our expletive deleted best. So that like this movie wants you to believe that like, you know, although there's much that is noble. We really are trying to present things as it really happy. We are not taking liberties to make it a better story writes that may be disingenuous, but I do think it's a difference in the way the filmmakers are sort of like appealing to the audience. I mean, I would say here's the thing is it may be absolutely true. You know? Like, you know, only the shadow knows what lurks within the dark as of the humid harder. However, the the old thing went, but Dick Cheney has left a balloonists documentary evidence about like what he claims have been his own motivations, which I feel like have been very conspicuously omitted from the movie with one big section, which is like the very final scene where the Dick Cheney characters the camera, and basically says that like what I did I did for the safety of all Americans. And you know, if you are going to question my decisions in the end the sacrifices, I made to sort of like our civil liberties tell me like what lives you would have exchanged for those abstract principles, which I think is interesting, but like earlier in the movie just to pick one example about the Genesis of the Iraq war the way that they presented from my from my memory is that they have like a pollster sort of like, well, the war on terror is a little bit nebulous people have people would prefer if we had like a real physical enemy that we could attack. You know, somebody with a flag, and then that would be more popular. And so they just sort of like pick a rack out of a hat as a as a ratings ploy. Right. But the real Dick Cheney would tell the very different story. He would be like we have putting aside the the evidence that he drums up in front of you nations. I think the Dick Cheney would claim that the United States has numerous strategic reasons why we wanted to go to war, and why would want to create a stable democracy in Iraq as like a stepping stone to transforming the whole Middle East, and the idea that that Dick Cheney might feel like the United States actually has a strategic interest in creating this war rather than the Bush administration as a political interest in creating this war is really not even entertained in the movie, even though that's what they said public. You know, it's almost like every perspective is entertaining except for the what they actually would would say to defend their own actions. It's interesting. It's funny. What you said the Queen movie that just came out. I was like oh, yes. Of course. Because I. Saw Barry Queen of Scots, which is another which is another bio paying also another Queen movie that just came out, and I don't want to belabor that point. But Mary Queen has cut is all the way on the other side where it's like in all three of the movies, but he made rhapsody vice and Mary Queen of Scots I would say like a comparable relationship with correspondent truth where they make a whole bunch of different sorts of sacrifices and changes in order to make the story better in order to make certain sort of arguments or omit making certain arguments about people, but they all have different relationships with how they claim is in the movie and vice is like this is a true story when it is amazing things break, it's pick you Asli, but he'd being rhapsody is like this is a really fun action rock venture. And like, yeah, it's not entirely, right. But like, you know, it's kind of romanticized and as the music, and it's fun. Whereas Scott's is like Mary discounts like speaks English with the Scottish accent has like a black man serve it with a mohawk. Right. Like hangs out with a gauge. Dude, who is like a bar that said it has gender queer and changes outfits is personal friends with Queen Elizabeth and like meets with her and talks with her about a situation like America. We discuss movie is like we don't care what Mary discuss was actually like raised in France. Right. Not Scottish really only only vaguely ethically Scottish, but but let alone able to converse with the common Scottish people in a way that no one else is able to. But we're trying to make a point about people either generally, specifically using this historical figure as simple and the bohemian rhapsody things. Like, Freddie, Mercury was always kind of a simple. He was a cipher. We don't really know what he was all about. But he's a symbol for whole bunch of stuff, let's revel in the symbol. And then with the Dick Cheney movie, it's like we want to make the Cheney simple. He's sort of a simple. But he's not. I don't know. I just thought it was fun to introduce a second Queen movie, I guess third Queen movie if you think of Lynne Cheney's third is the third Queen or the fourth Queen this situation. But I hear what you're saying about like it is. Use that like they say Dick Cheney is the most secretive leader ever or whatever at the beginning of the of the movie, and they never consult like his own autobiography, right like, which I doubt he told the truth in it. But like 'cause who would tell because politician, you know, like, you're gonna be saying things with an agenda all the time. But it is interesting that it's never it doesn't seem to even be consulted. What do you guys think about the claim that the movie makes first of all it says the movie says that this is a true story? And it claims that the donor for Dick Cheney's heart is a soldier who fought in Afghanistan and was transferred from a torn Afghantistan to tournament only to make it home after the war. Get hit by a minivan and get his heart immediately delivered to Dick Cheney. I don't think there's any reason to believe any of that is true. I might be wrong. But I don't think there's publicly available information as to changes heart donor is but a that they would claim. This is Dick Cheney's heart donor and be that they would make this person the narrator of the movie in order to give the movies kind of overarching polemic the legitimacy of the perspective of that person. I thought was really interesting choice. I mean, what did you think about that? Yet, the oracle the Wikipedia article is says that it was an anonymous donor. So it sounds like there isn't any sounds like there isn't any basis for the claim that they make. So it's more of the sort of. I mean, it's more the poetry of the thing. Right. Like that. This is a person who survives the havoc wrought by by Dick Cheney. It's I mean, I think it's a point about sort of service or the, you know, those who serve right? They also they also serve who only stand in way to get hit by a car. The the soldiers serves in in the military, right? Is you know, putting his life at risk is doing his duty is. Is in this sort of dubiously legal dubiously moral trumped up sort of war, and and then sort of comes back. And then in the end is sort of fodder is like is more kind of raw material right for Dick Cheney to kind of continue his to continue his great work. You know, what it's like it's not like Dick Cheney killed the guy to take his heart. The movie kind of presented that. I mean, like the most critical in net, you could say with Cheney in so far as bad twist is considered chaining refuses to at least, according to the to the the dead narrator. The American beauty's speaking from beyond the grave narrator, I refer to it as somebody else's heart. He just refers to it as his new heart. And that seems to be the main beef that the guy has but mean, it feels like the hard donations don't go to like who's the nicest person, they don't like add up. Your score allowed the good place and decide who deserves to lay that who doesn't deserve. You know? It's like if you weren't convinced that the movie had an ax to grind the fact that like they showed the guy like playing with his kids, you know, he seems like such dice. He's Landry from Friday night lights. He's just such a likable guy. Even in these sort of like, the fleeting glimpses you get to him. But he's also just you know, so you can't the long shadow of Todd is everywhere here. And also the lawyer from the post, right? See sort of like, the hamlet's ghost of prestige television built now if you just like appears as third person peripheral participant, but I hear what you're saying. Definitely I thought I thought the Eric cartman ask associated montages of hyenas looked at through night-vision was another indication that the movie had something of an extra cry. What really bothers me about this movie is that it makes me feel sorry for Dick Cheney is taking so many like potshots 'cause I feel like there's almost like I feel like they miss the points. Because here's the thing. They make it seem like Dick Cheney's problem is that he is a man who loves for power, and he just wants the maximum out of executive power just because just because he loves Babb power rights, and he loves said, the situation room and make calls, and he doesn't even really care what the calls are that. Like he happens to start a war in Iraq. Because like, that's what gets him into a more powerful position. But he doesn't even really care. Right. But I because this is going to leave him if he doesn't have power that's like his big motivation for everything he does right. I mean, but this is I mean to contrast with another residents of the MAURICE aggressive the White House. I don't think Cheney is the kind of character who just cares about what's best for Cheney putting aside things like whether or not he gave no big contracts to his own company. You know, that that he financially benefited from which honestly like is in the movie, but it's not I don't think it's a main thrust. I don't think the movie is really seriously arguing that Dick Cheney's. Sure, why not Dick Cheney's presidency is just a long con to like enriches stock options. Put it just in mix seem I feel like the the tragedy or the frustrating. The enraging thing about Dick Cheney is that did Cheney wanted to transform the world and thought he knew how to do it. And you know. You know, went went to great lanes and sacrificed a lot in terms of like civil liberties in terms of life ITO in terms of like America's credibility, America's money because he had this vision of how he could do things like the and he was wrong that ditch Dick Cheney bettle lots with other people's money, and he was wrong about everything. And that the movie doesn't really the movie doesn't even make it seem like he had a strategic reason to get into war with Iraq. Besides the fact that it was polling. Well, but I feel like Cheney has this vision of like American power, and and what America's role in the world should be. And the movie doesn't really give it voice. And I feel like without sort of like making it clear that like Cheney has this vision about like what America lately what he wants to accomplish. You're not really telling the story. Yeah. It's tricky because the movie on one hand which wants to portray Dick Cheney as having no, skills and. Doing no work because he's like a lazy drunken frat boy dirtbag. Right. It's like he dropped at a college. He's a hanger on. He's a yes, man. He just values loyalty, and you never really see any scenes in the movie, well, especially the first half of the movie during the assent of Dick Cheney's career where he does any sort of work like west wing style. Or like, I mean thinking like better call Saul style where like you watch Mike, Mike Erma trout, like real rigs rake a piece of machinery for twenty five twenty five minutes, really really crucially there that that they make it seem like he wouldn't even become a congressman had he not of fortunately been sidelined and his own campaign and his wife is the one who did the heavy lifting to get him elected. Right. So he is simultaneously does nothing and is worthless. But it's also this master of the universe who is able to bring together this vast conspiracy for his own for his own benefit and immediate friends benefit. He's both this like both responsible for everything that this is a movie that sites. The entirety of the second Iraq war and the Syrian civil war and only mentions three people in the entire movie actually living in the Middle East. Right. This is like everything bad that has happened between the Mediterranean Sea. And the Himalayan mountains is the responsibility of a bunch of people in Washington. Right. And and so, but at the same time Dick Cheney is supposed to be totally inept race supposed to be totally useless. And yet how does he do so much? I mean, partly it feels like the movie is two movies put together that there's that wonderful stroke in the middle with the credits. All my goodness. I love that part. Did you guys get a kick out of that part? Yeah. It was it was well guess there. There was no want to follow up on it. But but finish your point before. I basically, it's like Turco's the movie wants us to think that Dick Cheney is stupid and useless. And that he belongs to a class of people who are stupid and useless lazy and fats and they're fat because they're lazy. They're not fat because they are stressed out there fat because they they don't have discipline. But that also control everything without. Doing anything? And then he also wants us to believe that he has his fingers and every pot and is sitting in every office and is making every decision despite being incompetent, which just seems like you're I mean, really when it comes down for me is like I feel like when Dick Cheney's giving the last speech at the end of the movie, I feel like Adam McKay is kind of the voice of that speech to where it's like, yeah. You're gonna look at this movie. And you're gonna start criticizing it because it has all sorts of problems. But I if you felt that there was a monster out there, wouldn't you do whatever it takes to take down the monster that that's sort of what it feels like. And it's like he's throwing stuff at the wall. And he's kind of hoping that some of it is going to stick. I guess, but I didn't get the sense of an underlying thesis of Cheney through any of it. Sorry. Sorry. I'll pass the baton. It's a lot stock about it's very very provocative movie. It creates a lot of feelings. But definitely right? Exactly. And I think that that's a lot of that has to do with the film technique. Right. And to certain extent like we have to. Lisa part that the different aspects of of this movie. I think in order to be able to talk about it like one is what was the intention or whereas the energy as you say Pete like being being directed. Or what is the axe? What is the acts that it's trying to grind? I mean access actually a metaphor that shows up in the movie wheeled power like an actor. Do you wield power like switch or no not a switchblade a butterfly knife? Right. And you see the cut-away to someone, you know, kind of unfurling and re closing the butterfly knife. Which is which is great because like the other the the next part is maybe the film technique, right? And the very odd Atia sort of non-real Listrik. Highly highly polemical use of montage use of music and use of of of kind of non realistic. You know, alienating film technique like like things on the SCR text on the screen cutting away to different things. And by the way, the the cutting away mixes fact and fiction, right because sometimes sometimes Reagan Reagan, and sometimes Reagan is the actor playing Reagan. You know, it was interesting to me who gets. Who gets impersonated in this movie, and who doesn't and it's not actually totally consistent there a couple of people who get both or at least in in at least in silhouette Reagan is one of those because I think he appears in in some of the Christian bale? The, you know, George W Bush impersonated, George H W Bush impersonated Nixon appears as himself. On television. You know, and that that that is sort of a sort of interesting set of things, but then did you notice that Jesse Plemmons showed up in one of the montages of quote, unquote, real photographs? There was a picture of of soldiers in I guess in Afghan Afghantistan, and he was he was in that. And he wasn't was his character not not him. So it kind of Benz Benz fact and fiction, and then the other thing is the performances of the actors, which are which are pretty good, you know, the Christian bale kinda seems to make a meal out of a lot of what's going on or at least they mix his heavy breathing very very high in the mix. So it sounds like he's sort of snorting, and and sputtering and taking over every scene that he's in. Because all you hear this. This sort of Darth Vader sort of noise that he's making, but Amy Adams, great as great as Lynch Cheney, you know, as a kind of Lady Macbeth. The kids are very good Alison pill as Mary Cheney Steve Carell good in this movie. His perception doing an incredible amount of work. There to create the character of Donald Rumsfeld and on and on and on. It's it's that's that's a sort of nother. That's another thing. But it seems like the the portrait that's created of the central character in the film is created by filmmaking as created by the director and not necessarily by the actor, which is maybe in contrast to some of the other to like bohemian rhapsody, for example, where Malik is is you know, sort of his it really is kind of his take on on, Freddie. Mercury. And there's not a lot of sort of montage for the montage is not used in a in a way to kind of manifestly interfere with the the work that the actor is doing in the way that that it is vice and so like I actually to say that Pete long way around the barn to get back to your point to say that the film provokes a lot of feelings. I yeah, I think that's because. It kind of operates at this breakneck pace with this kind of maximalist associated of montage loud music. Sudden, you know, sounds of explosions to convey, I think the horrors and kind of dislocations of of war. And insert kind of poetic moments. Also, where the kind of the nervous tapping of George W Bush's foot under the desk is he announces the beginning of combat operations in Iraq is is echoed by the terrified shaking of the limbs of father hiding with his children under the table as bombs rain down from the sky in in Baghdad or or wherever in Iraq. Like that that those those sorts of things are there to tug at the heartstrings. Sorry there to provoke to provoke response. I mean, it's literally provocative, and that's. You know, I don't know. That's either a cheap shot or or it isn't achieve shot. It's definitely the the technique votes. Definitely technique that the film is using. And it reminded me of Michael Moore. I guess we need like we need a continuum of like or maybe a sort of second access to access. Field of of being able to to plot this on four quadrants one being. One being kind of alienating film technique one access and the other being. How do you even say accurately reported truth or sort of non-polemical too polemical the the extent to which the film's make interested in making an argument about its central figure like sort of interested disinterested. Versus like presentation list in versus representational. Exactly. Not like. So if you magin those two axes, right? This is this is a interested presentational as I. Film and it definitely intends to be right. Yeah. Totally definitely what do you guys? Think of the the vice thesis that is sort of running through the peace because the peace 'cause you're you're right. Totally right in that its meaning to be provocative. The film introduces an an argument, which is not a particularly exotic argument, but argument on the that that is also the sort of style, it's a sort of style justification for both this movie and the big short, which is that people are constantly seeking out party and distraction and fun and entertainment, and because of this urge or the reality of their indulgence in it or it's available. Some combination of these things people don't seriously interrogate the things that are really happening. And which I feel like for me, I felt like there was a bit of irony there because this is a movie that sacrifices a lot of detail in what is happening in order to entertain and sort of titillate and excite. Revoke right. Maybe not necessarily as much sexual titillation. Although the scene where they're explaining. It is like you're watching Raver girls. It's very very Adam McKay as it were. But I mean, did you did you have any sort of reaction to that particular argument about the Dick Cheney wouldn't have been able to get away with what Dick Cheney got away with if people weren't so susceptible to the distractions of entertainment like anchorman or Talladega night. The website. The website funnier tie dye was the option. Particularly. So the very last thing that happens is like there's this mid end credit scene where they cut back to the focus group in the focus group is gone completely meta in his talking about the movie that we just watched and it has this sort of conservative and liberal arguing which I first of all I think it's funny that amick as used to be suggesting that like this is an even had movie that that's a rush test. Right. They could be seen either way. The idea that conservatives will watch this movie and feel like it was a wonderful in fair portrait of like a proud American. But then then there's sort of like, the third character the girl, and maybe not coincidentally or sort of like one of the one of the many sort of like Winston using things about the final scenes that it's two men that are arguing the politics. And the woman turns to another woman and says, I'm really looking forward to the next best various movie, and it's like, well, that's the end I hear it. But I was like I here that sister. No. I mean, I too am really looking forward to the next fast and furious movie. I mean, Hobson Shaw also, you know, building out the whole fast verse. And I for one couldn't be more. Delighted. But just as add there's a lot of things that seem particularly tone deaf about that coda and maybe question whether anime understands the film just made. But just one of many is the fact that like she would take him like five seconds to find out that like first of all I mean, there is a fast and furious spin off coming this summer, but he's not really the next fast and furious movie doesn't have been diesel. And so like, if all you wanted is like a little pin init- about like, how people only are interested in like the next shiny pop cultural object does not even the right reference should be making Infinity war thing it structure like Adam adamant couldn't even really be bothered. You know, like maybe that that was written into a screenplay two years ago. And nobody thought to update the reverence and make it something that actually would have made the audience think twice. But the the the proper opposition is in. Funny serious. It's funny solemn, right and serious versus frivolous. Right. It's another to two things in and like vice the avengers movie is very solemn. You know? And it's they wanted something that was not solemn intone to to go out. I think I think there's a reason that it can't be though from the point of view of a large scale, cultural distraction of big sideshow. You're absolutely right. That is the biggest I mean, the is the biggest game in town. I think in terms of dollars and in terms of like, eyeball minutes or something like that. But it wouldn't have you almost can't you almost have to keep. You almost have to keep. The alcott. What is it? Why can't I think of the word from wrestling the fan? Yeah. The K fab of of of like solemn solemn game recognize game solemnity game recognize solemnity game. And he kind of can't call out vendors affinity war because you pull the whole you pull the the threat on that. And the whole the whole thing falls apart might my favorite moment in that whole part of the movie or a net sort of scope of context, we're talking about there's this great moment in the middle of the movie, which again speaks to what Matic you're saying. In terms of. I don't know if added McCain knows the just made that the Cheney family together and the wheels are in motion at this point in the movie towards dick jeeter towards Dick Cheney becoming vice president or towards the war in Iraq. I'm not I don't remember exactly where it happens. But two of the daughters are talking about just in Kelly. Right. Oh, no. There's justed there's Kelly and those of us who lived through the time and remember. Over with those of us who lived through the time movie depicts. Remember a lot of things that this movie hasn't quite go into Moqtada, Al Sada being one of them. But. But it talks about American idol briefly. And then there's an associated montage which shows us Jeff Probst, putting up the torch on survivor, and I thought it was really interesting because the movie is purporting to say, or at least you can sense that Adam mckay's intention to the extent of this is relevant is like they don't care about the fact that there's about to be this crazy war started there. Too busy watching American idol and survivor, which are like Nickelback quality butts of jokes about consumable garbage television. Except when you consider what they're about, right? American idol survivor are about the various sorts of soft power and intangibles that lead large groups of people to coalesce around approving of a particular choice. And and that is the most relevant thing that anybody could be doing at that point in the story is watching survivor American idol because that's what decanes doing in the movie is figuring out how to get people to coalesce. Around in particular, choice that doesn't necessarily offer them particular tangible benefit, but that influences them various of soft ways. And so like many movies like RIP before it. I you're in for a slightly different movie that took on its subject matter with more earnestness and more determination and more of a willingness to take risks in which they interrogate the idea. Okay. Like Dick Cheney is a man who was at the ascent and apex of his power in the peak of American idol and survivor, and like what does that say which said of just dismissing American idol survivor as relevant when they are the dominant cultural things happening in the country that you are talking about for the entire movie pito to what I read the manifest text at least as far as I read. It was survivor was that in a sort of tribal council the Neo conservatives had decided that Iraq's. Iraq was being voted off the island that Iraq Iraq's torch was being. Snuffed out. Right. And that that like it was not that. It was the result of it was the result of this sort of contingent process and kind of self interest being played out in the exercise of soft power. Among an in group rather than of you know, geopolitics per se. I like that. I wish that I felt that in the moment when I was watching it. Maybe I just got to offended by the suggestion that that the Iraq war is the fault of people who like to watch TV which is kind of absurd on space. But I got the new conservativism was so glossed over in this movie, and it's so central to what I feel like a really critical almost like a breathtaking scene early on where we're Cheney is still a legislative assistant and as Rumsfeld. I mean, it's ridiculous that somebody wrote the scene and other people allowed this to be in the movie, Donald Rumsfeld. What do we believe in and then Steve correctly? I mean, it's great delivery. Although it's ridiculous. Just starts laughing just generally laughing out loud. And then just walks away and closes the door and changes stands there and the other side of the closed door and listens to him laugh by himself. I mean, like as funny as that was in the moment, if feels so dismiss they're basically saying, what do new conservative actually, believe doesn't matter. They don't believe anything. They're just in it for themselves, which is completely not. It's like he. No, he really wants to think of Cheney as like Trump as somebody who is just there as part of like a self enriching Khan. And that's not. I mean, the scary thing Chidi, he's a true believer. You know, he actually like thinks he understands how the world works and he can like ram through. You know, the like, here's the interesting thing. So the very first scene is sort of nine eleven scene, which point we flash back, and this sort of chilling end of it is that everybody in the room is feeling a lot of things, but Cheney was feelings of the nobody else was he was feeling the sense of opportunity. And then when we come back to it, we I think we're supposed to feel that the opportunity was the opportunity to sort of seize power for its own sake. That like this. Was changed chance to be the most important man in the world. Didn't matter what he's going to do with that power. All that mattered was that he was the guy. But I was thinking I mean at the beginning of the movie, it was just sort of like, I can't wait to hear what he feels. This is an opportunity for in. I kind of feel like it's it's selling Dick Cheney short in that like they didn't even really bother to sort of say, what is it that Dick Cheney believes right because there was a whole. There was a whole kind of intellectual apparatus, and the film talks about intellectualism mostly as an ex post facts of Expos factor justification for what you wanna do. And the idea of like, the Justice department, torture memos, for example, or the? The one saying that presidential authority is absolute not beholden to congress and not beholden to international treaties. Even if they've been signed by the president or something like that that that is not, you know. You know, that those things are sort of talked about as being as being like ways ways of justifying whatever you wanna do in the idea that like well, you can sort of site. There's a little hocus pocus, right? There's a little in the in the on screen text of like, well, those are still in the Justice department computers. Right. Like, okay. I mean like everything's in every computer a little bit. We have the internet. Now, the the idea that they can be they can be sighted. Yeah. But that's not like, you know, it's not like having. I guess it's like having paprika in. Having paprika in the spice cabinet. You're going to you're going to be able to reach it, and sort of drop however, much he wanted to the Stu whenever you want. Yeah. But, you know, then then you might not have very successful dinner parties if you keep doing it over and over the the. The problem. The problem is it's not totally clear. What he's being criticized for right? Is he like, George W Bush? I mean, this is the kind of standard knock on judgeship, you push that he's a idiot frat boy who sort of by dint of of privilege in luck got into this position. And ended up doing a whole bunch of ended up doing a whole bunch of damage. Or is he, you know, Richard the third who by dint of of Maquiavelian scheming got into his got into his position was and what was he trying to what was he trying to advance? I mean, did he really have kind of make America great again agenda of like seeing seeing America as supreme in everyone else as as expendable everyone else in the world or was he trying to accrue power to himself. So that he could do great things with it. He didn't really seem to have a grand strategy. If that's if that's what it was was it just to to divide up the oilfields of of Iraq for the for the oil companies. I mean, yeah, there's definitely a lot of shady stuff going on. But the idea that there was a. It's the the problem with being critical and being unclear about what the bad thing is that the person has done is that it's not quite clear what you're criticizing. And what the I don't know what the sort of bad thing is. And to me, this weakness was exemplified mostly in the final montage, the one that included park land school, the I think it was or no maybe it was parkland or maybe it was the sandy hook. Yeah. The school shooting. But then also from very very recent very very recent events, the detention of of children of immigrant children at the border children sleeping on those a horrible. You know, tin foil blankets, and and being kept in cages under armed guard. You know, and those are hideous pictures to look at frankly, a lot of a lot of the images used in this movie to shock are are. Are hideous. I feel like they would be more hideous and context rather than as just like a brief hit of of kind of main lining emotion and shock, but the the that montage that was the one that to me was like, okay. This is an intellectual failure on the part of the movie. I think maybe Matt you and Pete would. Identify other ones. But that was the only one that was over the line for me because it was like look every every political thing that we think is bad every event every kind of event of of national scale that we think is bad is the fault of Dick Cheney right in is the fault of this this mentality. Whatever this mentality is because it's to find it's sort of. It's like soup. It's you know, it's like saying the soup is bad because there's too much paprika and like not really not really got to list all the ingredients and the soup like it's a top chef or something like that. I'm even something as basic as like at the end of the movie is Dick Cheney happy with what he accomplished and his time in office rec-, not I guess the movie's really unclear I think what Adam McKay is telling us is that Dick Cheney wanted to be the most powerful vice president ever, and he was and on the side sort of a side note, he managed to enrich himself and his cronies. Therefore, he was extremely happy. And he accomplished what he wanted an office, but I kind of feel like in real life. It doesn't really come up in the movie, but like when Bush left office his approval rating was significantly lower than Trump's has ever been right as unpopular as Trump seems at times like Bush was just, you know, everybody on both sides of the aisle wanted nothing to do with that man and Cheney was much less popular than even Bush. And I gotta feel that like whatever Cheney thought he was going to accomplish when he wrote into office or when he launched those wars he didn't accomplish they didn't go the way he thought that they would. Feeling noted that comes off because the movie makes it seem like all he wants to do is like be this important rich doodoo sort of cackling with all his cronies at the at the fictional restaurant of of civil liberties. Okay. Here's how are you? I was going to say by the way, great cameo from Alfred Molina at that as as Haiti Twitty waiter. Sorry Margot Robbie of this movie. It was taught from brakeman. But that's I think that's one way to look at it. Another way of looking at it is that there's that Dick Cheney was seeking to create and thority, and that he sort of wanted to well in this thority, but he seemed to want to create the authority almost independently from his own participation in it like it's something he urine for I don't know something about the this is one of the weird things about this. This is a bio pic that I don't think we meet anybody from Dick Cheney's life prior to him interning at the White House other than his wife and his wife's parents, right? We don't meet any of his family. We don't see anything about how he was raised anything about. Why did he choose Lynn? What happened? How did he get to this point? There's just the car, right? There's like there's there's the car that he's in that he's drunk driving in that's kind of. Rattling its way down the road. And I don't know. I if I'm trying to find out what I feel like the movies really trying to say it's like that Dick Cheney's saw this experienced this car, and this sort of St. of weakness and dirtbag tude, and he was charged with creating a greatness, and it wasn't ever going to be his greatness because he was always a dirt bag because he always hated himself. And that's why always throwing himself and he's only doing it. It's a movie that is both trying to bash toxic masculinity and also bash him for being henpecked by his wife, right, which is entirely hypocritical. As I that. Like, man, if he were a real man, he would a not be mean to gay people and be show his wife, who's boss. It's like come on, dude. It's definitely it on that front. But but yes, either it's the Dick Cheney's entirely self interested and is doing all this stuff in order to enrich himself and his cronies chief power or he's sort of built this weird voltron robot of an executive branch out. Out of some sort of personal psychological yearning, that's not really explained. And that the real danger is that this is now been handed off to Trump and Trump now has this giant, you know, mecca robot and could do whatever he wants, which which allies which allies a very important period of eight years of Barack Obama as president who consolidated executive power, you know, who seemed to be just fine with the consolidation of executive power and seem to put things in place that operate just fine as long as you have a benevolent philosopher king. Ruling the Republic Plato envisioned and falls apart falls apart entirely when you know when someone refuses to someone refuses to buy those norms. Yeah, I feel like the period this movie skipped a lot of important periods. In time. It skipped Newt Gingrich entirely and just basically alighted Reagan to George W Bush as one thing which is kind of silly. But if you ask me, but also it alighted that really interesting period of time during the actual, Iraq war. I mean, I guess if you guys remember as I recall, what happened with that war in the public. I wasn't that people figured out that was wrong. Because people knew that the Iraq war was stupid when we were doing it. I mean, there was a lot of approval for it. But like there was not a secret. This just like the big short Adam McKay seems to love to think that nobody everybody. Nobody was saying that this was a bad idea. Lots of people were saying it was a bad idea. But given the public environment at the time, they couldn't stop it. Right. Everybody one. It. Everybody was really cheering for it. The flag waving and all sorts of stuff was going on. And there's a period of time during which the war drags on. And the work crimes pile up that the American public doesn't necessarily turn against the Bush administration, but just really bored of it. Right. Just gets distaste just like loses the enthusiasm for the whole Iraq thing. And Abu great was the real turning point in my mind. That's like this sort of quagmire Vietnam moment is all the stuff that came out and Abba grave, which of course, happened like years after the events of this movie, the main events of this movie where the war is launched and it's positing. And also the whole thing about ISIS. You know, that's just years later. Right. It's entirely tire. -ly did totally disengages. The Shia of any sort of agency and anything that happened to that country their country, you could even say right and for good or for ill, totally forgets the Arab spring and all sorts of other stuff that happened that affected the as loving. World and all sorts, but any rate the big thing is a movie that I would throw in here that engages with this idea a little bit more. And perhaps better is the movie. Do you guys watch the Sobe w? No, James Brolin, Richard Dreyfuss place. Dick Cheney in that movie. And he plays the missing piece of Dick Cheney. That's not in this movie, which is like Dick Cheney the like mastermind who is looking at the world map and envisioning a world in which America has access to all the oil, which is great because America's democracy, and we can't afford to have dictators have access to all the oil. So we're going to have this. It's an over still movie you go into it with a certain amount of skepticism about whether it's true or not. But Richard Dreyfuss is Dick Cheney is very different from Christian Bale's Dick Cheney, but w is very engaged with the psychological deconstruction of the kind of frontman child of George W Bush, and this idea that that whole ideal like slowly collapsing seems to play into the psycho drama that will be more than this one where it's sort of like Dick Cheney did this thing, and it was bad. And the next thing, you know, Donald Rumsfeld who I I guess is able to wield politics like a butterfly knife. But we never see him. Do it really like is like high. Hiding in a closet and packing his bags to leave because people found out that that Dick Cheney founded ISIS, and it's just like you skipped a lot man that you skipped a whole kind of the whole transformation of the American soul. You just danced over it. Right. Like, that's the part of that really breaks, my heart is that it that whole tragedy. They give you the big soliloquy at the beginning of it. But they don't show you or even give you the opportunity to experience that extent of time, which I felt was so critical because it was formative years for me as an adult, but that whole drag it was I presume it was our generation's Vietnam in the sense of like what it did to the sort of belief in the in the end, the confidence in the country, right and everything that had the ideas that support this this executive that Dick Cheney is so in love with anyway, I'm getting way too deep into the weeds. It does seem to support the kind of like opt out. The sort of like, none of the above twenty sixteen type of type of thing. Right. Like because it it it seems to support disillusionment. You know, if if the if the American executive is a renaissance king, you know. You know? The. So brief brief digression? I may have told the story on the thing. But when I was in acting school, we got. We got access to David Rhodes, who's an incredible scholar of of English literature to talk to us to do the the dramatic literature and kind of dramatic history classes with us, and and he saw has to hamlet once in pretty good production of hamlet as as they go. It was like two hours. So that's in its favor already. And he said he said to us the one critique I have is that none of you scared enough around the king because anyone standing in the vicinity of renaissance monarch would be scared poop lots and and because at a whim, this this person has absolute thority over over life and death. And this is kind of the picture that emerges both with the kind of the Shakespearean interlude. And both with the Shakespearean interlude, and with some of the montages of death and destruction that kind of happen at a win, the torch, the torch being snuffed out, right? Like if this is a man who can snuff out, your torch know what I mean? And. You know, if if the American executive isn't factor renaissance monarch than there really is no reason to participate in in the political process, you know, and the kind of the very complex relationship between the -tarian executive and gerrymandering, and you know, the the. The work of of solidifying. Solidifying power bases. And the kind of the boomers holding onto jobs just more in the Democratic Party than actually this. This movie calls it out as being like, the democratic leadership tends to be older, right? Oh, no sorry. That's not. That was a podcast is listening to recently that like there are a lot of there are a lot of very very very messy details that account for the current political political client, but climate, but this the film thinks seems to want to say that you know, there is a cigar smoke filled room with with powerful old white dude's wrinkled and whatnot laughing and eating steaks while they draw draw cast lots for Jesus garments. Or or what have you, and that's not? I mean that that seems that seems retrograde to the cause of social progress if anything. Cheery? Find a word from you. Matt it just feels like all of us are particularly critical this movie because we feel like it's such a missed opportunity or such almost like a necessary opportunity. If like somebody needs to make a good movie reckoning with what happens during those years, and how it sort of set up. What's happening now almost don't you feel like we're too close to it though. Right. Like, the I don't know it feels it feels like a lot of the the revisionist accounts of Vietnam only only kind of being being solidified like that's the. Or the grade Vietnam war movies. I mean was a platoon was like only ten years after the war ended. And I don't know. I mean, the the Iraq war is going to be was fifteen years old now going on, you know, and nine eleven's going to be twenty years old. I don't think it's too soon to have some perspective on what's going on. Even though I know we're still living with the consequences. I mean, you didn't like occasion nine eleven movie. World Trade Center, actually, no that was supposed to be good. I don't know if you're making fun of it. But I didn't see it. But I actually heard that that was better than at any rate to be. But also directed by all over stone, by the way. Speaking of like, Apocalypse Now is probably what like five years after the Vietnam war ended, right? Sure. I mean, I it seems like are those? Well, I guess I don't know. Yeah. Maybe Oliver Stone because those are the deer hunter was was very soon after it wasn't it. But like I feel like those are not maybe Oliver Stone because he is. He is who he is. He sort of comes at it with a very high stakes. You know, almost cosmological psychodrama in all of his movies, like the Nixon movie, for example, in in the Oliver Stone, Nixon movie which begins with the epigraph from the bible, you know, in which hillock profit a man to gain the whole world, but to lose his own soul. Right. As an example of the kind of the the stakes at the scale that that Oliver Stone is playing, but it seems like those are all very visceral very personal movies. I mean that as a compliment they're about their about the experience of of their about the experience of people living through those events not necessarily about an analysis of causes or of like, a kind of fundamental understanding it just clarify Oliver Stone Vietnam movie platoon, not Apocalypse Now. And. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And put exactly what not saying is. Plus, we'll have divo-. So you got that stuff. You know? Maybe it's like you need. I mean, here's the thing. Like, yes, I agree that like more time to allow us to have some Sterkel perspective. But what you lose? There is nobody involved in making the movie actually lived through the thing you could make a Nixon movie now, and how more perspective than they did when they made all the president's men, but like nobody making the movie now really voted for Nixon or followed the impeachment proceedings in the newspaper when it happened. Where's that like what what I think is nice about one of the things that I think is good about vice is you feel like both the filmmakers, and let's most of the audience almost all of the audience have a very personal connection with the events that we remember those elections. And we remember the day the Colin Powell gave that speech the'd I'd nations and so it's like we're we're wrestling with their own experiences in our own sort of like emotional meme. Of those times. And I'm sure somebody will make a movie about those years twenty years or thirty years from now, but those will be people for whom it's all history. Yeah. Yeah. This sort of saving private Ryan curtain, right? Where it's like certain point you're on the other side of it. Right. Where is that? Like all those John wean World War. Two movies were made by in for people who like had were experience rights, you know, alter the the fifties. And in maybe like, you know, in a way, I think a lot of ways that like modern war movies that are more explicit about the violence that don't romanticize any of its as much, you know, saving private Ryan may be a better war movie than like the war movies of like fifties. But I'm glad those movies were made those movies that were sort of like by the people who actually were there in the trenches and came back screenplays about it. I realize that the trenches were more of a one thing too. But you get the point that like I feel like maybe we need both of them. We need to the the movies that were written by the people who had the firsthand experience in the movies by the people who have the perspective will there's I mean, there's actually. There's a Peter Jackson phone call. They show they shall not grow old right about about World War One. We talked about it a little bit of couple of weeks ago. Just in in reference to I forget what happens it we talked about it on. But it was it's actual footage from from World War One that was captured by the kind of British what? Authority in charge of shooting film of World War One kind of documenting the soldiers in the war, and what people are going through. But it's been colorized cleaned up stabilized, and and forensic lip-readers employed to fill in the dialogue of the people who who are on these silent, movies and speaking on them, and then and then interviews from from the people who were there from sort of later, but not too much later were you know, interviews late over as the narration. It would be kind of interesting when it it'd be kind of an interesting one to to go to right because at a certain point, you know, at a certain point, what is our what is our obligation to history. What is our obligation to to to kind of co-opt and bastardize the phrase that was very current around nine eleven to never forget, right? And and how how how do we never forget, you know? And how do we draw the lessons that we draw? And how do we sort of ratify for ourselves? The people who we are read this seems to be the enterprise that a lot of these that a lot of these films are a lot of these films are engaged in this one being very very provocative with Dick Cheney saying at the end, look, I work for you. And you put me here, and you sent me to do this very interesting idea like to what extent are we complicit in global horror because we buy Levi's jeans and drink Coca Cola. Interesting question, not one that the film sort of that the film sort of really addresses, but I'd like to close this podcast by saying that you think we've done a bad job at the podcast. Well poop on you you. We're the podcast that you subscribed to and we're doing the job because we see that it it has to be done. So thank you for listening. And thank you that and Pete for for podcasting with me. And and thank you to all the members who support us if you want to join them and and. 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The Televerse #401.5- Spotlight on Game of Thrones The Bells with Clint Worthington and Allison Shoemaker
"Hello to the televise. This is Kate calls, like, and it's a it's not a Saturday. So y'all might be confused as to why you're hearing, the dulcet, sounds of my voice, and it's because game of thrones had interesting episode this week called the bell. And as you'll know Nolde as listen doesn't listen to show doesn't watch the show. I should say or listen to it. And so I had to call and some friends to do a little reaction many special episode. So. News of the podcast. And this is such a sad reason to have you on for the first time, but welcome after long last Clint Worthington from the school. Hello, and many other places, and welcome back to friend of the show. Elson shoemaker. Hello. So, okay. Listeners people hand the curtain, we've literally had a half an hour technical difficulties. So this was intended to be like a delicious lake crack into this bullshit of episode and really just linger in how stupid so many choices were, but I've got a heart out 'cause, you know, work. So instead is going to be quick and dirty. So let's start with this. How are you guys feeling about this final season of giving thrown so far and did this episode shift anything for you? Clint author to you. I can we all just for this remaining half hour to a full bodied scream into the microphone, I think, that'll probably caps later feelings. Yeah. It's so weird to be frustrated, but I am by this final season because, like too certain extent, you know, if you're part of the Twitter discourse around, like all the sort of quote, unquote, he'll turns that happened in last night's episode and all the big the big decision that was made and all the people on Twitter saying, oh well, you know, it's been for shattered since the beginning I feel like that's not the point the point. Is that it's been done really lazily? And in just the pacing is really poor. And it's also just so very frustrating that an episode that has such great cinematography and editing like, there was some great set pieces and individual moments in it is just still like let down by this weird weird rush to the end. Yeah. Elson. What do you think? Yeah. I mean I'm I, I'm sim- I feel similarly about the content of the episode to the way that Clint feels with the caveat that I am not in the least frustrated because I never expected it to work. So I'm a book reader, which I think, is always important in the game of thrones conversations. Right. And, and I really admire the books a lot, they can sometimes be frustrating. But for the most part, you know, I very much enjoy reading them. Big fantasy nerd, so Martin's interest in sort of dissembling and. Re investigating the tropes of fantasy and specifically of this kind of like toll keen style fantasy I think is really invigorating in cool. So it's so light Clint I wear my like sticking points is not in what happened so much. Although it is horrifying warfighting. But in the way that it's handled both in terms of some very bad writing and staff that is very obviously all dudes because nobody like, apparently, it made me just sort of sad for the two DS because. Just like it seems like they don't have women in their lives to say, like dude, you're, you're telling store, you're not intending to tell here in the way that you're framing this entire arc, and so both, like it's, it's not the what so much like the how in the win and the why and the general rushed pacing and like previously on as substitute for character development and some really, really weird things, but I also feel a little vindicated isn't quite the right word, but I guessed I guess. I don't know grimly satisfied that the show that I quit for quite a while for very specific. Reasons has reinforced all of those reasons in this final season, 'cause man for a while I thought maybe I was just inventing things, but, Nope, they really just do not have fun clue. I mean, I think that was the sort of struggle for me for this final season because I knew I needed to cover it, because I haven't new outlet, so I feel like I should be recaps, but it feels like for me. And a lot of other people this final seasons of game this final season of game of thrones feels more. Like, we just kinda wanna see what happens as opposed to being genuinely interested in what is actually happening in terms of just being keeping up with the cultural conversation more so than genuine enjoyment, at the show, and in that way, I suppose, I shouldn't be surprised that all the shitty things that have happened have happened is interesting, if I myself hyped and excited to watch each episode like the day it's going to air and then go like, so the second thought was was very good. This season had a lot of really nice moments. Great. There was if I could have seen the third episode I would've liked most of it, though, not. And in really, I think what is turned it for me. This this for as far as this last season. Goes is it just? I'm not going to say lazy writing 'cause I don't know. I'm sure it's very possible. They work their ass off to ensure that did. Yeah. So it's not lazy, but it's bad writing. Worked very hard at these bad choices, sad choices, and it. And it's really, you know what I didn't either saw those like leaks. Spoiler leaks about what was going to happen that came out like a few weeks back. And after some of the stuff in the fourth episode I was like, wait a second. All crap every single one of those true isn't it because they think this moment they had with Jaime and Brienne means this, and I was assuming it means that because that's the only thing that makes sense with the seventies of character development. They've done. But if they think that the seventies of character development, don't matter exist, that it very much follows that we're about to get all of this bullshit, which was spoiled and then we did. And so I was a little prepared going into this episode of what was coming and it was still worse. So let's just dive in with that. Do you guys want to go briefly through different like each of the different like story points? Do you want to focus by, like US star with some things? You thought they did well, or do you want to just go on, like a cause for me, just about everything in this episode is done poorly, as far as the writing goes, and is a betrayal of the show in various ways of. So I go character, my character or I could go like character based plot based. Themes of the show based general narrative rules-based. How would you guys like to? How about I don't think it's the worst thing to start with some positive things just because I don't want to get so hyped on, like dunking on a bunch of nonsense that I forget to talk about some really beautiful costumes are the score, which I'm just dying to hear Kate's thoughts on because I thought it was so wonderful. And I was so desperate to focus on positive things last night that I was just like dwelling. Endlessly on the score or like I think some of the acting was very good. And I think in particular there, there are two actors who were tasked with basically single handedly saving storylines for being total garbage, and they at least one of them ultimately failed, but no one could have succeeded. And she did a really good job. And like trying to make it work in spite of literally, everything. So, yes. So maybe positives first, and then we can go, I think like category by category or story by story, whichever is easier. That I wholeheartedly agree. Let's, let's do that. Because I think you're right Ellison Amelia Clark does as good as anyone ever gonna do when tasked with what this episode tasks her with. And we'll herculean will serve us back to all the ways it like sets up for failure in his betrayal of the character, and you like though, those, those little like clips of interviews from like a year ago. Right. When they finished filming that have been making the rounds just makes so much sense. Now. Where they asked, they asked can Harrington, you know what is was his reaction. He said, disappointing. They. Yeah. There's some some really delicious reactions from about a year ago when nobody was paying attention. But a million Clark is fabulous. In the moment that they give her to decide to her character is gonna go from champion of the people to slaughtering tens of thousands, if not more for no reason. And, and I think that's all you know, like I don't believe it. But I think it's not her fault believe it. Did you get thoughts on the moment? I agreed. I did feel it did feel weird to me that they decided to the beginning of episode showcase how downtrodden and how disappointed in broke. And she was after the events of last week and missing days by showing her retreating not eating not in one conspicuous close up. Not even wearing makeup, which I felt was an odd choice, but yeah, no. She's she's doing what she can to elevate this weird stuff. And I almost wonder if the episode would have benefited from us. Even seeing a little glimpse of her during that latter half of the episode after she makes the decision or if it's narrative, -ly best served by just leaving her out of the way if they remember that she's a character who's choosing to do this. And not just someone writing address. Yeah. Just like a force of nature. But like she should probably have thought about what's happening. Yeah. Elson getting here getting super shady in what's supposed to be our positive portion. That's okay. It's, it's Kate. It's baby tree. It's little. I mean, I think that she's it might honestly, be my favorite Emilia Clarke performance in the entire series. She's just incredible. In spite of the fact that it makes no sense like if anybody could have sold this she could have and to be clear. I'm sure we're gonna talk about this more. It's not what Danny does that doesn't make sense. If you were to legs zoom really, really, really far out and look at sort of where the story is taking her. You can kind of see how this could in theory, be an end point. But it makes no sense with regard to the character because they haven't at all prepared for this to happen. It feels completely abrupt. In terms of the writing, and the filmmaking and basically everything along the entire frigging way, though, the whole marketing, like all of it. So. The fact that ever comes close to working, I think is pretty much just to her credit, frankly, because she really sells the despair and the rage, and like the weird perverse thrill like all of you get it wordlessly essentially it because she's got there. So little at the beginning, and she couldn't those saints too. Don't get me wrong that the scene with ferris on the beaches, chilling and the same with John is bowl shit, but she really sells it, but those shot those silent shots of her are just Justice. Donna shing. And yeah it feels a little bit. Like we're gonna do sports analogy it seals. Like sometimes if an athlete gets some way like disrespected or dismissed or underestimated. They'll like go off and have the best game of their entire career. Right. Like you've picked the wrong guy on the wrong day. He's just like completely empty everything. He's got in your general direction and you're not gonna know it, you it really is like that. It's like Amelia Clark handed the sack of crap, and she was like, great win me a fucking. Emmy with this, you know what I mean? And she sadly probably won't because it's so terrible. But. I want to commend her for finding a way to treat the character with more respect than the show does. I if we're still on the subject of things we liked about the episode is still like I don't like how we got there. And I don't necessarily like the narrative reasons for it. But as a piece of spectacle of apocalyptic spectacle, that sort of raising of king's landing, I thought was really well done, it reminded me, a lot of children of men and weirdly enough, and I mentioned, this, my recap that palm pay movie. That kit Harrington did a few years back. Yeah. Even just as a sheer bit of like spectacle. You know, I liked that premise of seeing the raising of this entire city the city we sat with for like seven eight years. Probably close to a decade now from the perspective of the people who, don't normally get, you know, a lot of time with whether or not our is the best vehicle for showing that the ladder things a different story. But I just thought in terms of just the sheer the idea of it, and the concept and even the execution was really was really, really cool. Okay. I, I was so in pissed off that I couldn't even enjoy the pretty fire, but yes, it was. Well, like you know, it was good CGI. Right. I was going like this dragon, who is obviously actually breathing fire onto these, it isn't people, this, this plot choice is bullshit, as opposed to this dragon looks bad. Swim better. Get drug on some tea with Honey. Yeah. This is probably really itchy. Another thing that I actually really liked. I didn't like it the first time because I was through 'cause I did watch it a second second idea. Did watch the second time so that I could like make sure that I was felt strongly confident in my opinions and do but the second time through the opening stuff with various thought really worked. I think they did enough to underline that he's have tried to have Martha poison her food, right? So he's like actively trying to assassinate her. So therefore, her killing him like is completely justified to make sense. Just part of the problem with her later turn, but we'll get there. But I also really liked the stuff we got with Tyrian in various, the beginning thought was spot on, really, well, acted really, well written, I thought have about half of what we got with Jamie, and Tyrian was really great and half of it was bullshit. But again. That none of that's on the actors some the writing. And yeah, I felt that there were like a like the death of hybrid was just delightful like one. Perfect spot on way to kill him barked by zone creation. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so that's I think, what I would those are the things I can point to as far as being effective. Do you guys have anything any other things that work for you in the episode? Yeah, I as always think that costuming is really excellent. I think that Danny's cost him in particular was released smart, and looked amazing. But also just like told a really good story. I thought the sort of reins of Casamayor remix was kind of beautiful stupid, but notable and I thought maisy Williams was speaking of mostly wordless performances. I thought maisy Williams was really excellent. Again some stupid things in there. But particularly that like just so on the nose stuff at the end, if it worked at all worked, both because it was beautiful to look at, because it was really beautifully filmed. And, and because she is so fucking good. So yeah, but I mean like Dink was really good just like that, acting in general. I think was very strong in this episode almost, as if, again, someone told them that they were not going to be on the NBA all star team as a group, and they all just actively to be like the hell we're not. Let's make this work. Tonight. They have to save the youth center, totally. They just were like, Nope. Not not today Satan, not today. Yeah. And then I was gonna say something else that over. But it was I don't know. I'm, I'm rooting we were rooting for them and still rooting for them. I just wish that they were in a better show. Same. I am not still rooting for them. They have lost any chance that I'm going to root for them. I mean, the actors the actors not the show, though, like I written for the show going into this episode. I was like, maybe they'll like, you know, some of the stuff is stupid, but it can be for me boil down to the fact that I just see and understand the characters differently than the show runners, do like some of the characters the big one in this episode is the big too. I guess, our Jamie, and Danny, we both watched the same things, and, and in their case wrote it and came away with very different characters are, and, but that doesn't mean that they can't do a well done version of that character even if I disagree with it, you know what I mean, and they shadow over that for me with this episode. Because of because of so many of these choices and you, you mentioned the range of customer, right? Previously about my thoughts on the score. And I I'm not as into the game of thrones score. Most people are I think, obviously remained Djawadi. It's very good. What he does. He's very talented composer. And there's a reason that, like, for example, thrones theme is a comic among TV themes, at this point, and there's a lot of really vodka powerful scoring over the course of the run of the show. But you're gonna like how did how did Jamie and sir c become our point of view rooting for emotional characters at the end. And what season are they lifted from because those are not season a me? Orser. See. And so when the score comes with the rain rains of cast mirror and I'm supposed to feel connected to it in some way, just the talking rebels to quote, a better HBO show in the same thing with Tyrian to the writing for all three of these characters in this episode is such bullshit that I just can't even connect with the concept of the Lancasters anymore. Yeah, it feels like they're relies on them making these deliberately kind of dunderheads decisions that especially for Jamie really feels like if you're going to pull a reversal where this notorious jackass, who sleeps, the sister is going to start teasing towards humanity. Only to pull back at the last minute. They there so many ways it could have done it better. And also just just the way they go out. And also the way he's been treated all season. She's literally just been standing up on the spire for what five episodes now like the. One of the greatest most complicated characters on this show who's been through so much, and they just literally, they literally put her up on a pedestal, and she doesn't even speak really. I think until Jamie picks her up. Yeah, look after watching her grow as a villain and of fascinating character. The just really weaving, her own fate, the death for C Lancaster. That makes the most sense in is the most fitting in narrative Lee satisfying is having her, like smashed under rebels. I guess, somewhere in me with Jamie, like, that's, that's what makes sense to pay off your was the point of that gal bullshit. You're on Jamie fight with. Boys. I forgot about it for just a second. I looks to camera. I finished writing about it just like ten minutes ago, and I had already forgotten it even happened. Yeah. For yarra. I mean come on, like, who thought that was a good idea. And the answer is d and as Elson, you privilege stated, if there was ever a sign that they needed other people in their writing room or just to talk to them. You know, maybe let's talk to some queer people and, or some, some straight women anybody attracted to men and they will tell you that you're on his networking, and not interesting. And it's been a massive failure. So he doesn't work to have a big climactic battle between him and Jamie, if anyone's gonna kill your, your on besides drug on it needs to be Jahra. But apparently she's works you'll ever seen we're servicing. Yeah we're skin in the game. Well, and also the whole the whole thing about I'm he looks to the camera wink, wink. I'm the man who killed Jamie Lancaster, only for them to not use the wounds to kill Jamie Lancaster. Yeah. In the notion that he that, that is very in character. Him to die thinking that he's done some granting that he just hasn't done. He's just wrong on that, like that. I do think that, that works on a level. But, but it's not interesting, all the various things you could do in this episode. That's what you carve time. No one cares. We were happy when he got just burned theoretically, if you just don't have jump off the ship. Come on a lot of jumping off ships this season to tear things happening and not drowning in your armor. Yeah, I feel like we're gonna get some more of these character moments before we run out of time here, but I feel like one of the biggest betrayals they have in this episode that is the most frustrating than drug on is invincible and scorpions are useless. And so while apparently dragons can't like see things like ships that are hiding in the middle of nowhere that can see the dragons dragons can't see them, which is how you can shoot Rageh three times. Times with no notice, but drug on with an entire fleet. Suddenly, I guess Danny Redbook, maybe it's one that Sam left behind when he when he went off with Gilly, but she knows tactics now that she has never shown, and also yeah, there's no concern that may be drug. I was gonna die end. So instantly all the defenses of king's landing are useless end. All the scorpions are useless, and it's don't you guys understand is the penultimate episode. So that's what has to happen. It was. It was so bad. I mean, I guess if you were to hand ring around excuses, the whole regal thing, I feel like they made a point last episode of being like, well, they're tired from fighting zombies, so they may not be at their greatest reflexes, but still it was. It was so forced. And it was like the most agree, just kind of an I hate to say it plot armor, you know, it's just it was just there for the sake of. Overcoming? I guess. Yeah. In now, if that's all it takes two to burn down the walls and kill all those destroy of the scorpions. Why didn't she just do that earlier when they were going to parlay? Yeah. When they did the whole money python seen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. It was a whole a whole thing L sent did that bother you. Oh, I mean, sure, you know. All like at all bothers me. I just. The show has alternately been invested in Danny, as either at once in a generation leader or an inept girl, off, and on for seasons, like, of course, one week, she's a genius strategist who doesn't even need to fill in the person in charge of her army as to what the plan is. And of course that week prior she can't even get it together to send neither. She nor anyone working with her gets it together to send a scout ahead to make sure they're not about to be ambushed. Like, of course, of course, that's what happened, the showed isn't actually invested in her qualities as a person or leader. You know, it's all it's always been about narrative, convenience, and could we always can we all stop pretending John's gonna make this great king early on with various interior. And where VERA says he will rule wisely and well, how do you know? So here's. Here's my frustration. The I hate to be one of those in the books people. But in the bags there is this whole. Under like constant seem of not a good person isn't always a good leader bright and a good leader isn't always necessarily a good person, right? Like some of the people who've been effective leaders have been shitty asked people, and some of the people who are excellent, excellent, humans are terrible leaders. I mean, like obviously, that's the whole point of Ned stark. Right. So with both dont with both John and Danny. There's so much to explore with that idea specifically and part of what when John gets assassinated part of what's happening is that he so busy considering his own moral, compass, and his sense of. Right and wrong that he doesn't realize that he is infuriated, the people, he's supposed to be leading and isn't actually listening to them or paying attention to what they want, which makes him a bad leader right now. If what the show wanted to do was take that guy who fucked up so badly, and then fucked up again. And then fucked up again and show him learning lessons from those things. So that various could say you would be a good leader because I've because we've seen that you've made these mistakes, and learn from them, that would be one thing. But, again, the show isn't actually invested in any of those qualities, it only cares about plot. That and then the plotting isn't even good. Right. Like, maybe that would be okay if their base had been in some other story that's not one hundred percent like where all the dragons in the mysticism and shit. It's all just trappings for the inner workings of minds, and how people battery at each other and how their worst qualities are drawn up some ways, and their best, qualities minimized and all of this stuff, then maybe that would be fine. Maybe this could just be a plot show. But it's never actually been a plot show. It's always been a character show, only they stopped writing characters like five fucking years ago. You know. You know, just it makes me so mad isn't even the right word because I stopped being mad about it years ago to right? Like just there's he can't say that John would be this fair leader because we've never actually seen any evidence of that. It's just that now is the time that we're supposed to believe it. So the show is assuming it's true without any anything toback it up at all. And just like the show is of Suming that Danny is crazy without anything to back it up there, so many reasons to say that Danny's a bad leader. Lots of them, lots and lots of things you can say this is the wrong person to be on the throne. And also, maybe there shouldn't be thrown that would also be an interesting point to discuss, but so many reasons and then they just they, they don't care because at some point, Georgia or Martin said and some meal or something. Well, you know, the tar guarantees you flip a coin and they just decided that was all they needed, and they didn't actually bother to do the work. Yeah. I think it goes back to your. Earlier Kate where I feel like especially with the rushed nature of the season, which, by the way, it should be reiterated. They asked for HBO is going to give them more money for an episode order. But they were like no. We can do it in six. But they use things like the previously on's and the inside the episodes, as a substitute for telling the story and the episode itself, like I found myself like in the previously on for this. Like when you see her her even her mean face or like her. She so infuriated after the end of that last episode you hear all the voice overs from everything else to make her seem more mad than she is. It was very lazy, and yeah, and then all the stuff and the inside the episode where like it's all just d- just describing what you just watched. But would just he'll we were thinking about this, and, like, okay. Well, good for you is very infuriating. Yeah. Well, I think we're just about out of time here. So we should probably do like a quick. Let's just quick one. Time go round the bend something piss you off about this episode that you feel like you wanna say so who wants to go. I just, just one thing, real quick, and then we'll keep going around to were out or until I know thanking so much. Yeah. Okay. Genetics doesn't does it determine who you are. So like it's a fun. It's part of it. But all Lancaster's go crazy. Only ministers not sorry. Sorry, Tarbert, Ian go med. Well, that's because they're raised by crazy people in this very specific area. She was not she's completely different. You know, who's also a tug Irian is John and no one's going. Well, you know, those are Garin about, John, it's a bunch of bullshit, lazy writing, and they don't wanna show their work. That's one who's next tards. I hate that on a kind of in the moment. Loved the clip gain bowl. I fucking hated the gamble. Perhaps. Sorry the most. Well, it just for some reason, I was just I needed something really dumb and fantasy to like get me through what I was watching. I was just like you know what? I'm cool with this whatever else and go ahead that horse was injured. She shouldn't have ridden it. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Clue game bull. How do you miss the point so horribly bad? Now is not a character. So I can't care when he's having a battle with the hound. And also the point is not the spectacle, the rue falling off, this major thing, the point is the intimate character relationships over in versus the mountain was more impactful and meaningful than could gain bowl and that shows a fundamental lack of understanding of character narrative, storytelling, and how you pay something off, also, if they wanted to make that the climactic thing in their finale, the penalty position, say they needed to shit on more work setting it up earlier. Okay. Next go ahead. Clinton. Oh, that's pretty much except I guess, the, the weird, you know, Monday morning quarterback in me is kind of upset that, you know, the whole thing with aria being the one person to survive, and you see her like get up. And there's only will see what have for face. And I was half expecting them to turn around and she has like a hound as scar on the other side of her head because they're the same now. I don't know. I'm I'm at once glad and infuriated that they didn't do that. Well, I'm glad. Okay. Let's say what should I, I wanna say next? I just wanna keep talking about how that horse was injured. Why did she ride that horse? Okay. So there's totally a way to make Jamie realizing that what he wants to do. Alternately is diwan his sister, does, there's a way to tell that story and make it compelling. That was never communicated literally until the moment that he walked into that room and saw her. I just didn't know if he was going to kill her or something else entirely. It was literally not until the final moment where it was like. Oh, no, this is really just okay because they didn't care why he was doing it, it was just that they were navigating him to an end that they had decided years ago, and then stopped paying attention, and what a waste of two extraordinary talents those actors are so fucking good. And then they just stood there. What? Garbage couldn't. They have like anything, anything anything and they neither of them. Tried to dig out. Neither of them tried to find another way. Neither of them like decided, maybe they wanted to go out by their own terms or like sim like something, they couldn't one of them couldn't mercy kill the other one, just like anything, literally anything. But Jamie couldn't go. Hey, I met a girl, like like anything, anything, anything would have been. Yeah. Jamie is the king slayer, and you don't pay that off by you either have him be the Queen slightly, because he's, he's understanding that his threat is not actually search his threat is the need the being driven to defend king's landing against someone who's gonna cause destruction. And that then made in the moment realizing he can't actually do it this time that would be fascinating. They don't. Yeah. They, they don't do him going back in the realizing the opposite, that he needs to end sir c that would also have been more interesting. There's a lot of different things ways it could have done that, that could have been much much, much better. Also, if Bryan had just talked him into bed instead of sleeping with him. And he felt like see no one's ever gonna love me. So I have to go back to surgery. That would be more interesting to there's lots of things that could have done that shows, none of them. Also, the reason she rides the horse is so that, you know, she can be riding a pale horse and her name is death. See see what they did there, guys. They're so smart. And then my last one, I'll do right now, 'cause I gotta go to work missing. Literally has one possession in. It's her slave collar really guys bring one personal item one to west rose of everything ever. And that's that's how that just shows. What these right? These see these characters also why is I send those last one? And then I just got going why. Why is devils in the frontlines? He has one usable hand why they're also why are none of them wearing helmets. Also, you know what could have worked really great if he wanted to, to have, Danny snap, like have somebody like one of the civilians freak out and, and kill grey worm, and then she lights everything up that worked. But no, apparently also is like let slaughter some innocence. So won't also when she got mad. Why didn't she just burn the red keep I she's right there on a on a spire because that's just like looking at children, as she burns them alive is just varying character. We Danny everything she's ever done. Bernie all the people in their thatched shooting. All all people also aria. Why do they need to leave the shelter because we're gonna die there in the in? So they need to run onto the streets that they can get mowed down by doth rocky. I mean like, oh my God. It's so stupid. And if the only thing you can do to try to get him emotional for your episode is pretend to kill aria three times what the fuck sorry cash. I really wanted to, to go off even more time. Do you have? Well how about we check in again next week without half an hour of technical facilities. Sure. Yeah, we'll have a whole new crop of things to be mad about. Somebody drinks, we're gonna drinks. I needed the pelicans veep finale after. Thank God it was great right only it was. So good. Okay. Well, thank you. 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I would say reach out with your thoughts, but if you are super with this episode unless you've got a compelling like thoughtful reason that you want to engage with me about probably just don't just but if you wanna bitch about it with me at the telephone Twitter, you know, I love that shit. So can I ask closing as a closing note? Can I add my very favorite thing about last night's episode before it, it's that you can sing the name Peter dick Lynch to the theme song over and over again? And it's the best just go. Dinky petered, inkling petered English feeder. Dink ledge Peter Dink Pete it. And it's the best. Feels like the right level, like the right note, to end on the right appropriate respectful approach to, to the show and inappropriate way to celebrate one of the terrific actors on this show. Okay. Thank you also much. I'll back later this week for a game of thrones, mostly free. Televise by buddy. Bye.
Is Deep Dish Pizza Actually A Casserole?
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There's no more maligned midwest food than the deep dish pizza whether you love it or hate it you still have to answer. The question is even a pizza. Dollar is it god. Help us a casserole. This is a hot dog is a sandwich. Yeah but cereal. So what makes no sense off. Sent a podcast. Welcome to our podcast. A hotdog is a sandwich the show where we break down. The world's biggest food debates. I'm your host joshua and i'm your host nicole. Handy's oughta today nicole nicole. We are taking on. This is a hot button topic. This is maybe the most controversial thing that we have ever talked about on the show. And i'm so very excited for it so we were talking about whether or not deep dish. Pizza actually qualifies as a pizza or if it should be considered a casserole in this was brought up. I know it's a huge thing and something that i'd likely never would have thought about if it was not for jon stewart's epic rant about it which i shall now read in its entirety in. Stay buckled up. If you're in a car what are we. Stay buckled up. How long is it super long. The podcast in general. It's like forty five minutes too long. Only gosh okay okay. Now i shall read jon. Stewart's epic anti deep dish pizza rant in its entirety. Okay i was going to be nice but now you've gone too far so let me explain something. Deep dish. pizza is not only not better than new york pizza. It's not pizza. It's a freaking casserole. I'm surprised you haven't thought to complete your deep dish pizza by putting some canned onion rings on top of it. It's a corn bread. Biscuit which melted cheese on and then in defiance of god in man in all things holy. You've poured uncooked marinara sauce atop the cheese atop the cheese on top. The sauce cold on display like some sort of sauce. Hor- you know the expression there's no such thing as bad sex or bad pizza. Your pizzas like sex with a corpse made of sandpaper. Let me tell you something. This is not pizza this tomato soup and a bread bowl this is an above ground mariner swimming pool for rats. Let me tell you something about your frigging not pizza. I want to know when i get drunk and pass out of my pizza that i'm not going to drown. Let me tell you something. I look at this. Look at this. You look at this sort of a biscuit. When i look at me i gotta do. I look at this when i look at your deep dish. Frequent pizza. i don't know whether to eat it or throw a coin and make a wish and make a wish it would be that would risher some real and pizza now in all due respect. I realize it's very cold in chicago very cold. It's windy need to be able to have a pizza and maybe cut it open. Climb side of it like a taunt on to keep you warm seriously. Who you who you kidding. Who uses an iron skillet to make a pizza. You don't use an iron skillet to make a pizza. Use an iron skillet to fend off someone who tries to serve you. A frequent pizza made with the skillet. Here's how you know. I'm right you call chicago style. Pizza called deep dish pizza stuffed pizza. You know we call it. You know we call this. We call pizza. Oh that's nice and by the way you don't put tomatoes and celery salt on free and hotdogs either. You know what i'm saying. Everybody knows there's three acceptable condiments for a hot dog mustard onions and stagnant hotdog cart water. That's it wow. John stewart in a way that only jon stewart can do. I'd like to hear. Trevor noah's version of the anti deep dish rent. But i mean that's that's huge fires jon stewart's new yorker. He's got strong views. Chicago deep dish pizza. Obviously a far cry from do you think it's far enough to be called a casserole. What new york person doesn't have strong opinions on pizza. Have you ever met someone. That's from new york and eats an la slice like this garbage Toy feel like every new yorker has big opinions pizza. But no i think it's i believe that deep dish pizza is still a pizza. The quantities might be a little confusing to the average person but at the end of the day. It is though it is sauce. It is cheese. It is innate triangular shape when you cut it typically and you put on a plane and you go nam nam nam with a fork and a knife. Little some weird still. Do it still pizza. So i get man. You got to look at the functionality of pizza and what it's meant to do right. And and i totally understand someone. Someone who views new york pizza as the end all be all which i do. So there are a bunch of other celebrities and whatnot. Who have waited on this like now. Dead judge antonin. Scalia said that the only true. I don't know why chose to call him now. Dead at former but for former elite too late supreme court justice antonin. Scalia said that the only true pizza is neopolitan and therefore chicago deep dish pizza a pizza. Also i think with bater. Ginsburg said that a hotdog is a sandwich. Anyways supreme court justices do not get to rule on food opinions. You and i do. Nicole in jesse's impressive as a prime court. Justices i worked for. I am the rv of a mythical kitchen at the school. I don't wanna be incidence kelly. I mean i'll be. I'll be so that's all fine. Okay okay if you look at the functionality of what a pizza is okay. It's funny that antonin. Scalia neopolitan pizza and that is pizza right. There's the aco verita blah blah blah. There's the whole like governing board that defines things as pizza pizza. However you can't hold talking to the supreme court. I am not a constitutional originalist. I believe in a living constitution. I believe in a living definition of pizza and so like nepal and all pizza to me. We define pizza across the world. That's the pizza. Hut's domino's these multi-national corporations that have now spread to malaysia in dubai and all the other continents of the world. I think new york style pizza is the end. All be all because you know what you eat. Neapolitan pizza with a fork. Yeah of course you do so people who try and use the knife and fork argument to discredit deep dish. Pizza as a casserole. I don't know if that's compelling. However i would look at the total like size and weight in proportions of a deep dish pizza to possibly call it a castle. I understand that there's levin doe in their sauce cheese but it's in such a different proportion in a way that makes it completely different from every other style of pizza entirely. I i'd be willing to call it a casserole but it's not i mean it's just a regional pizza style if okay. Let's just say our lovely who owns. Who owns the bazaar jose. Okay we all know that. Jose andres did a beautiful rendition on a philly cheese steak right. He had the air bread and then he had the wag you and then he had the foam of the cheese and whatever it's still for all intents and purposes right disagree disagree disagree disagree entirely so you think molecular gastronomy takes away from the original the original meal that they're serving. I think it's a form of of art in the way. That when when rene when rene magritte painted a picture of pipe that said they pose and this is not a pipe. It's an image that was like an artistic rendering of a pipe in the same way that jose andres crazy philly cheese steak which is a very cool dish by the way. It's like it is. I'm sort of aerated dough stuffed with what is it like the stay on it raw raw tag you. And then he makes a foam out of cheese and he puts it inside of the air bread. But i've never had. I've never had the original dish. But let's just say i'm going to l. bouli or going to the bizarre one of these high or a linear fancy restaurant you and ibnu and then they have pizza on the menu. And we're like oh my god. We're going to eat pizza at a fancy place. I wonder what they're gonna do to it and they give us some dehydrated thirty six hour yeast crackers with with a tomato dust and anna cheese cheese balloon. That you pop and it rains down like toppings all over it. I'm blown balloons you. That's that's that's literally how you make barada. Is you take stretchy mozzarella. And they used to just put it over their mouths. Because when lucas. And i went and shot at that barada and mozzarella factory the dude was telling us about like working in old school barada varada makers back in italy and he was like they used to smoke cigarettes and then they would blow up the mozart and he's like and now people say buddha out there don't taste the same no because it no longer tastes like unfiltered winston larry. That's so interesting. Wow saw the smoker's lungs used to perfume the barada. This is just from like one dude. So i don't think it's something that can be like in the historical culinary cannon anecdote though. Yeah i thought it was great. Anyways you were saying about the thirty six hour henry. These cracker but josh like if we went there and then we ate it and then we have this sense. Like oh my god. We're eating pizza. Is that still a pizza. Isn't the deep dish pizza just an artist's rendering of pizza instead of it being a high version. Let's just say a more of a lower version and more accessible version a thicker version heartier version but they're thicker hardier versions of pizza. That do not go so far as chicago. Deep dish right you like at detroit style right. You look at so when anthony. Scalia said that neopolitan is the only true pizza style. whatever like i obviously. Don't think that's true because you look at the traditions that have come out of rome. Insisted league in other reasons than also how immigration and what's that one word the diaspora and how di asper a manufactured drug. Yeah you take diaz for for my heart palpitations but anyways how immigration diaspora has affected pizza styles and whatnot. But you look at spin johnny. I think it's called from sicily which is like a very thick pizza that some could call deep dish And then that is actually what is transformed into detroit style pizza which i find really interesting that people people do tend pick on chicago style deep dish and i think for a reason because like detroit pizza. It's very thick right. Anyone who says that pizza needs to have a thin crust. I don't think is absolutely true too. Pick but it's still like a majority bread. And i think that is maybe where my issue comes down to is. What percentage by weight is topping sauce and cheese versus dough because chicago style pizza. That's what differentiates the most me as not eating with a knife and fork because neopolitan pizzas traditionally eaten with a knife and fork The fact that you know there's cornmeal on the cross. Stir that the cheeses on the top to me is purely a ratio issue. When pizza pizza needs to have some sort of like majority bread dough component in chicago deep dish does not allow for that but the structure of the doe allows for that because it creates this this vessel almost like a casserole dish is almost like almost have. Have you ever had a pizza casserole like someone that just takes a bunch of bread and then puts cheese and tomato sauce on it and like toppings and they put in the oven. That's not a pizza. The pizza casserole this you just use describe chicago. Chicago deep dish pizza is it's like a bread. It's a bread bottoms casserole. No no no no no. That's why that's why that's why a deep dish pizza pie. Maybe accept that but did you consider all pizzas because there are people. That's the question that a lot of no all pizzas to me are a form of flat. Bread key issue here is flat bread. No-nobody okay okay. Okay okay okay okay. Okay what if you have a pizza and doesn't have the crust. The crust isn't raised. That's a flat bread bo. When i have a pizza and the edges and i have distinct specific visual crust that on the sides like how are you how are you going to how are you going to measure is with my eyes i have is i look at it before i eat it. You decided to upgrade your outdoor deck. So you ordered the essentials. A power washer said a patio chairs and a shiny new grill and use your bank of america. Cash rewards credit card choosing to earn three percent cashback and online shopping up to five point two five percent of the preferred rewards member which you put towards the cost of your most essential deck addition a bird feeder apply for yours at bank of america dot com slash more awarding copyright twenty twenty bank of america corporation. Well it's funny because like the term pizza pie pizzas relatively new to the us. Like obviously there have been italian emigrants in the us for a long time. Probably making within their own communities but a lot of people don't credit the explosion the us until after world war two when a bunch of servicemen came home and they eating pizza in italy and all that in so like the original sort of name for pizza was pizza pie To make people understand what the hell it was right because you just say a new form people in america. They're not gonna understand what it is. But if you say like oh. This is a pizza pie. They'll understand something slices out of but to me. That's a complete misnomer because i don't think the raised crust is necessarily like endemic to. What a pizza is. I think something like a flat bread. That doesn't have a raised crust and flat. Bread still has leavening in it right like you're not just a cracker. I would argue. This is interesting because like to to call chicago deep dish pizza and decide what exactly a pizza is in saint. Louis pete's a does not have leavening in the dough right. Saint louis style pizza to me got all. We have a bunch of one stars on apple podcasts. Because i talk crap on saint louis pizza. Well thanks for that buddy. I don't care. I don't care. How far are rating san francisco. Saint louis saint louis feats that is to me the worst regional pizza style. It is like a lunch ables pizza. I need full full-size. We'll order some from imos or elmo's or whatever it's called on having delivered. I feel like it's only fair. If i'm going to say some things the worst a need to try no i can't just piggyback on what you say all the time you know when it's safe to do so. We should fly to saint louis and sample all of their best delicacies because they also invented the toasted ravioli which to me is absolutely beautiful food. I love the pizza to me. Is what have been abomination. Because it's on it's essentially like a mott's pizza right like it's like the pizza a desert. That's pizza pizza to me is not a pizza. It's a when you when you use to me when you use the term mozza in pizza you are disqualifying it from being pizza because you're specifying this is on matsu not on pizza dough. I believe pizza dough does need to be lessened in raised. Which is why inconsiderate. Think i don't think i again. It doesn't need to be okay. I take back what i said about race crust needs to be visible crust on the outside. But where you're going to say what if the guy puts us all the way to the quarters and some cheese gets on the side. Is that still pizza. Yes it is. I don't know. I don't know in march my mind if i mind. This is contradicting your arguments. In real time instead of doing i love it. It's one of my talents. I also do the same thing with my fiance. he goes. What am i thinking. And i say the poem on. And he's like how did you know that so. It's the same exact thing. But i'm basically trying to say that. Like what is what is stiglitz his giggling the animal that burrows in the ground or is it like the ground itself what is do dick lynch is is the little guy pops his head out in threes. I believe knows. That's doug trio the evolved form of biglaw. It was just a single one. But that's what i'm saying like. Is it like an animal. Because it's kinda just like it's shaped like dots the candy and you know what i mean. It's just like a sorta cylinder guy but it's supposed to be like a little animal that boroughs or is it the ground itself that's anthropomorphic. Oh my gosh. that's a really good question. I like to think that it's an anthropomorphic. Yea i believe it is an anthropomorphic ground thing. can you eat though. Can you eat the ground neural. Could you eat a deg late. What would it could you. Could you eat all poke him on. Oh yes so. That's the thing you can. there's a whole storyline. Where slow pokes. The pokemon are being poached for their tails because people eat them. Yeah you can definitely poke poke pokemon. Would you want to eat the most. My favorite pok mon of all time would be teeny. I don't know if you know who not is like a dragon right. No i'll show you a picture. I call her her. I don't know what gender after teenagers and us the most beautiful pokemon. I've ever seen in my life and i would probably eat her because she kind of looks like an eel probably chopper up and saute on a little bit of ginger. Soy glazed marinade situation. How about you. here's thing so there's a lot of. There's a lot of easy analogs you can bring to the eating pokemon debate like Cloister is just a big old oyster. That'd be fun you get eat. Toros is just like a wild duck side. Duck duck is a duck. But no i would wanna go snow lax because whatever animal snort lacks is. I don't know if it's like a bear kind of looks humanoid. But it's like the kobe beef that animals spends its entire life sleeping in being super lazy. It's it's fattened up completely. Whatever that is. I would want to get a tenderloin from snarl ex. Yeah but yeah. Drew teeny evolves into drag night. I believe i would eat both of them. I've been watching pokemon up some some i. What deep tangent man. This is problematic on back to pizza. So you're talking about the raised crust being a necessity. But like you said that doesn't necessarily make pizza pizza because like a detroit style pizza. You'd say a pizza right yes. There's no raised edged crest on. Detroit's al pizza. She actually what it's but it's intended but like put it covers but it covers the sides like a pie but the cheese is actually what extends all the way outward player. They're still a little bit of a lip. There's a distinct lip it's just instead of it being up and curved like a like a pizza crust it's underneath and on the side. Okay see what. I'm saying that makes sense. I see what you're saying. There is the intention of creating a raised crests. This is all. I've learned that this whole podcast is all about intention. -ality basically what the chef is bringing to. You is what it has been decided like he. S god chef is god. God give food to you'd patriot patron eat. What the god give you. I think you give a man a pizza. He'd sir day you give him a nice big hardy pizza casserole like deep dish pizza chicago. He's an eat the ever like week. Who can eat a whole deep dish pizza day. I don't know how the last time you had deep dish pizza. It was there is a chain. i don't even know from chicago. Or if they opened in california but i went after an l. Afc match. it's called. God i feel like i wanna look it up. It's there's one long beach also but anyways it's a really good like chicago style pizza chain and they monica's nola monica style. That's in westwood four minutes chicago. No it's called ransomware ransomware about a year and a half ago is probably the last deep dish pizza. But i do. I do love deep dish and it was a huge part of my childhood because like There were there. Were two different competing pizza places in my hometown that you would go to like after your last game of a youth basketball season one of them. One of those all ballpark pizza. Which i absolutely loved. It was a new york style but they had the little basketball video game where the pop shot those really good at nights take a lot of my self esteem and identity on being at that game. Joe anyone in the world to pop shot competition But anyways there is another place called selma's chicago deep dish place. It was really funny. I didn't know that you're supposed to eat deep dish with knife and fork back then so as a very like. You've seen pictures of me for my youth basketball days i was all fifa eight two hundred forty pound twelve year. Old power forward absolutely crushing it on the court plan. Lino charles barkley reggie you magnet. I would've liked definitely like made you my friend like four sudip be my friend like did right. Now come here. Large men protect me from the bullies. And you is forced. I forced you to be my friend by hiring. That's that was the whole thing there. We didn't didn't need the higher for your position when we brought you on. Their josh needs a friend he needs. I like a child. And i was just like picking up a half a deep dish pizza and shoving my face just covered in sauce. Probably dousing it and ranch as yeah one time. Eight deep dish pizza in the car. Mistake big mistake. Do you do the thing that i do. Get your hands dirty in the car and then use wipe it under your seats in me. Neither i don't know i lease my cars. I don't purchase them. I wouldn't never give a car back with like pizza pizza. Doodoo on the ball. I have already. I'd like to put my car park and have plenty of napkins just in case of emergencies. I have fifteen two bottles rolling around in the backseat floor of my car. In every time. I make a turn you get on the freeway. I think i shatter but they never sounds like a christmas tree in their defeats. The benefits i truly. Don't i wanted to play devil's advocate. I don't think there is a compelling argument for chicago. Deep dish bean casserole. I think it's something that people say. I'm very interested by the fact that people say especially someone is smart as jon stewart because it just shows how. How much new yorkers like to insult people like needs a pizza is such he also would probably say that barbecue chicken pizza isn't pizza. Which of course it is right. It's got sausage. Cheese has the toppings on. It's on at pizza dough. That's obviously pizza. But people from new york they hold so much of their identity into the one dollar foldable. Big floppy slice that they will go so far as to spread lies and propaganda to call chicago deep dish. Gasol that doesn't make what what casseroles have a leavened bread bottom. None none right if if anything could be considered a pie. I do think there is a case to be made that chicago. Pizza is pizza though in ways to chicago pizza we mean the deep dish because they're regional chicago styles but there is a big case to me that this is not a pizza simply for the ratio aspect of sauce and toppings to the bread. I think you can maybe consider it a pi. I'm i'm team pie because pizza pie is a thing in my mind so calling it anything other than a pizza pie would just be wrong. I think it's wrong. I think when we're defining our notion of pizza hood that's what it's all about to me. Do you agree that pizza needs to have eleven crust or eleven sorry not eleven crespin levin dough to create it. No no. Because i'm a girl that grew up making pizzas with tortilla brad from michigan catch up and shredded cheese in the microwave. I'm not gonna front. That's who i was who i still am sometimes. Do you think you could reasonably call that pizza. Do you think you could open a restaurant. Because i i've got i've done restaurant no but i could feed it a little kid and be look. Here's pizza thank you are. Barometer cannot be kenai trick child with this food that is not appropriate argument holiday. That's how i determine all my arguments like well. My niece and nephew accept this. I i fully respect in. I have made a lot of tortilla pizzas in my day. You take a big floppy flour tortilla. You put it in a pan sauce cheese. Throw the of oven it's crispy. It's fine but to me. That is not pizza if any restaurant served that calling it pizza. I would not consider what if they descriptive described her in front of the word like lazy girl. Pizza that's fine. But i think in the same way that if you call avoided check a check it serving the opposite purpose of a chakra an as sandwich right the term description open face is literally telling you. This is not a sandwich open. Oh well yes well. Yes okay i stand out so i think by calling it like a tortilla pizza or something that i think jon stewart kinda hit on this and the ramp where he's like you have to call it deep dish pizza because you know it's not a pizza week all our pizza pizza but i don't think that's the case. Josh i go to a party and bring. I said hey. I'm bringing pizza. And i bring deep dish pizza. Do you think people would be upset. If the new york maybe flat out. yes. I think people would be upset because especially this is no. I think this is a really important point like even if you brought a bunch of like individual tiny neapolitan pizzas that had wet centers. I think people would also be upset right because if you bring because i think pizza it's such like an ultimate sort of game day party food because you can just pick a slice with one hand. Have a beer in your other hand or ice. Glasses skinny girl rosa. Whatever your drink of choices and you can eat it portable but if you told pizza you're bringing if you told people you're bring pizza party and you brought just a big oil sloppy wet deep dish casserole and have fun. They're like oh. I don't have the appropriate plates and cutlery napkins for this. This is the party. What do you do in josh. Are you kidding me. I went to a house party long ago. And they said hey. We're going to order pizza. And i'm like okay. Whatever they're going to get domino's. I saw aids on boxes. And i was like. Hey yeah so. I guess you just are immense convenience and you just have one way of thinking is someone brought me apple. Onea's pizza pizza party. I'd be like holy cannoli like look at you. If someone brought me a deep dish pizza. I'd be like oh my god. You are such an overachiever. If some of briggs pizza isn't so you have to set your own prejudices aside though right like this isn't about because i don't know man. I love chicago deep dish pizza. I love it whatever it is. I think it's absolutely delicious. I think it offers something different completely. Then new york pizza. It's something that. I like actively crave. I want to taste eighty percent toppings but to me the fact that i even might even love it more than new york style pizza but to me that might indicate that is not pizza because it offers such a wildly different experience. Which i'm all for. I just think we need to rename something. I don't think it's a casserole because again bread. There's no bread based casseroles that. I know of at least unless you talk about like a you know something like a spanish. Strata were using precooked brands. There's no raw do. That's a bread pudding. Yeah that's its own category to me. I believe chicago deep dish pizza. God help me should be considered a pie. I think the dough is like just unleavened enough to be considered like crispy pipo and when you cook it it should be crispy right light and then you have a majority an overwhelming majority by weight and volume of sauce cheese other toppings to me that constitutes a pie where the filling is a majority of it but the crust is still important. The real question is do you ever take priolo set otc after you eat a deep dish. No i like to suffer. I like to suffer for my art. But i know the commercial you're talking about to suck sucking down deep dish. Isn't larry the cable guy. I don't know. I just googled. Acid reflux medicine. The first thing came up where you preemptively got acid reflux just from talking about chicago deep dish pizza. If that's not an endorsement of a food. I don't know it is yes. I only nine days out of ten. I have acid reflux. Today's psa for your gut healthy brought to you by nicole. So we've come to an agreement deep dish. Pizza is pi. It's it's neither a pizza nora casserole. I think you could consider it adjacent to both. But i believe it exists outside of the structures. All right well. Can you order me pizza dude on. We're both we both right before this. How long are we are. We both only ate a banana right before this yet. I'm ordering deep dish tonight this year. I'm going to eat better and spend less time in money at the grocery store. Thanks to butcher box but your box is the meat delivery subscription that gives me more time for what matters most each month they sent a box of the highest quality meats for a better price in the grocery store which gives me more time to spend cooking and sharing delicious meals with friends and family each month. Butcher box chips. A curated selection of high-quality meat. Right to my home. All me is free of antibiotics and hormones. 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Irrelevant out there in the twitter verse time for a segment we call. I got a noni mama. This is wild dude chips and pizza. Frosting ideally some kind of buttercream. I think it's a salty savory sweet thing that gets me and it similar to the chili and cinnamon roll combo which is also divine. So this will this person stake in pizza and under slathering it in frosting and then covering chips or they're doing chips and frosting separately. It says chips and pizza with frosting so in my mind. This person has pizza there crushing chips on it. They're folding it and they're dipping it into the frosting like say you what a ranch or a talulah. Okay hold on hold on. Let me think i love. I love ranch pizza because it's white and creamy and i love honey on pizza as well. You take some of that. Mike's hot honey drizzly on a spicy pizza delicious frosting but a combination of the sweetness of honey and the cream of ranch. Sugar the sugar honey. That's what i'm saying. It doesn't have to have an ill. You think there's any real vanilla and the dunkin hines white frausing that's what is white frosting tastes like if not vanilla just white sugar yeah there's vanilla flavored frosting and then there's white frosting white what is white tastes like exactly a combination vaguely disgusts me. Frost again pizza. That's a no for me with it. I loved that. Someone's doing that. And i love snacking on canned frosting. Yeah i can't get my head around the frosting but if it was maybe something else that was like a little bit less intense. I don't know what that is my pillow. no no talking chocolate and tomato not vomit. that tastes like vomit. It's it's pre vomit though right. Rebecca directa says great name. Great named greenpeace are unacceptable addition to tuna salad. Yeah any way you can. You can shove veggies into something where they don't belong. i'm fortunate i love green peas. I think they're delicious Throw them wherever you want. Especially in your tuna. Do you know that. There's a lot of people who really hate greenpeace. No i guess. Because i never grew up like hating a vegetable that much you know. People like broccoli as- brussels man. I never had that no me neither. I the only thing. I really hate it when i was. Young was raw tomato because i couldn't get past the texture of the seeds but now absolutely tomato and of i've always loved peace piece of always has been favorites even though i grew up eating canned peas which were just like. It's like a puree in molecular gastronomy spherical form because they're so mushy but now i love using frozen peas and throwing them in literally. Anything like i was making just like kind of kitchen scrap lasagna. Because i had lasagna noodles and kitchen scott to us up bacon and chicken and mushrooms and through a bunch of greenpeace and that the posted a photo of me eating. This lasagna covered in ranch dressing. Because you eat pizza with ranch. Why not lasagna with ranch i thought we were gonna disgusted with the ranch dressing but they were like who puts peas in a lasagna. You're disgusting and i was like no. It's good. I'm happy for you. Thank thank you nicole for all his accepting me for who i am. You're welcome all right. We're going to go to cassie bear. Three twenty sometimes like to rip and dip mostly but not exclusively the crust of pb and j. sandwich and milk as one would do a cookie. Lots of people think it's gross. I think they're pallet is underdeveloped and can't handle my genius. I fully agree with this. I make a. I will dip a peanut butter and whatever sandwich. 'cause i mostly eat. Peanut butter banana honey. Although the other day. I ran out of honey so i made simple syrup flavored with molasses and vanilla to give me a drizzle for it because i'm a fancy young boy cocktail with that leader. Oh yeah the beginning old-fashioned you should yamanouchi kidding me. What was it molasses. an wa molasses and vanilla. Oh my gosh. She should absolutely make cocktail with that. Well i have. I have whisky cubes. Yeah we're doing an old fashioned. Later i love. I love dipping my sandwiches in milk. It's like it's like it's like a jenky choice. Jas he gets suck that milk out of the bread and get a little bit of sweetness from jelly. Or honey whatever's on there. I think. I think they can handle your genius. Cassie but we can. I appreciate your genius. I wish i was genius. What i do something that i learned from one of my first culinary jobs a shoutout savan one of my favorite people i've ever worked with. She would take a slice of chocolate cake and saturated and milk and she will call fake. She was really funny favorite. People i've ever worked with and shoot. I try this. And i'm like what is it. She goes milkshake. And i'm like okay. that's just lay cheesecake. Yeah and like literally. I was like whoa. This is delicious. So sometimes i know cake and i think of avant because she was my favorite down of milk cake. Okay let's see what's next. Hp pfm therapy favorite meal white rice yellow create chicken with diced onions raisins peanuts. Banana slices desiccated. Coconut pineapple tidbits. Okay this sounded like a regular. You know curry play curry played into ambrosia salad territory. Really all you visiting some marshmallows and a midwest accent. I know i think this is a swede. I think this is a nordic person because that for whatever reason so i had a friend from sweden shoutout to eat a storm who wants made me her favorite meal which was what she called chicken curry but she didn't even have any curry powder. She was out so that eliminated any amount of curry from it. But he put banana and pineapple and ken pineapple in just like a chicken saucy dish And i think it was like yogurt mixed in as well but like to her. That was chicken curry interest. And you see that unlike swedish pizzas as well with banana and pineapple on a shrimp pizza with curry powder. Yeah we've had that before. Yeah for whatever reason this like weird. Tropical fruit and curry powder thing became a combination In sweden maybe misery and this is just hp fm therapies own creation. I've had i. It's not my favorite thing. I think it's a regionally defined taste that i have not quite acquired. Gazette is a lot of fruit in a meat sauce. Even i do love meat fruit but but this is a bridge too far too much for for the too much for all right. We got leah was here who a spicy one any pizza. That doesn't have red sauce isn't a pizza show up shish. At meg's i mean. This is a perfect example of what we talked about pizzas. There's so much like regional identity tied up in it. You're willing to like say lies rate. This is a lie. I mean if you consider that pizza is in italian you know invention and that even predates italian stated which is only the eighteen. Hundreds like tomatoes didn't even make its way out of north america until you know like the mid fifteen hundred people have been making pizzas for a long long time. That never had any sort of tomatoes. Didn't even freaking exist. Like eagle street vendors in ancient rome. I mean they were making things that look like pizzas today and then you look at the alfredo chicken pizza from olive garden. That's absolutely delicious. Think it ain't got any red sauce. Definitely yeah absolutely delicious. I think whoever says this stuff is myopic. Is that the correct word. Roadmap you are myopic and that is a good word to put on your scrabble board so get wrecked study for the sat's y'all standardized tests scam still gotta to do them. Proto human says naked wings dipped in sauce are better than wings tossed in sauce. All the flavor plus crispy skin it depends. How important crispiness you. 'cause i like josh like the saturating crispy yum meanest that comes with like a wing that has the crispiness and the saturated sausages is on it. So i don't really agree. Because i like that that texture insulation station a lot. I totally agree with you. I actually get really mad when someone advertisers something as the buffalo and it is not completely doused in sauce to me. That's like that's part of the pleasure of the buffalo wings you get all the butter in the hot sauce. It soaks into the chicken fat and the skin and then it gets spit on your face. And then you get to dip that into ranch and you can't dip something in the to sauces. I'm opposed to that ethically so no doubt. There's something about it like like cross contaminating. The sought ligament like dipping the same bite into two different sauces contaminated. It's something i do with ketchup and ranch and branch and hot sauce. Okay i guess. I do it a lot. We yeah what are you talking My point still stands set at ethan yeats tuna salad made with miracle whip of course must be eaten with frito scoops dip yet. This is absolutely spot on one. Put some damn respect on the miracle whip name. I don't care if it's not allowed to be called mayo. It is a coleslaw flavored in his absolutely delicious to tuna salad to me. If you look at to not oh sauce right. The northern italian tradition like it should be loose and dip -able. In my opinion. I think tuna salad is more of a sauce than than a salad itself. And i do believe should be eaten as a dip. Even if it's with toast points or just putting a slice of bread in your palm and pawing at a tub of tuna salad. I think it's better dipa food than it is a sandwich food. No for how long. I i would. Like to quote konya was mayonnaise colored benz push miracle winds. That's all they wanted to say. I remember that line really incredible. Yeah he's a real. He's a real artist. I've never i guess. I just don't realize the difference between mayonnaise and miracle whip like i haven't done the side by side comparison before so maybe that can be our next experiment in the mythical kitchen and i love tuna salad. I grew up eating tuna salad in everything. Because i was good kosher girl venison pork barrel. But i mean i. I like taking chips and dipping it into tuna salad. So i agree but again i don't i guess i'm just not a miracle whip girl i guess. I don't know my grand. My grandma makes a tuna dip. It's like her like nine hundred seventy s party recipe that for whatever reason has gelatin but it's not like a jello thing but there's gelatin in the recipe to give it this just weird thick mouth feel and condensed. It's like tuna gelatin and condensed cream of mushroom soup in mayonnaise and sour cream. It is absolutely delicious shutout two granny for the mushroom tuna salad dip that made my acid reflux backed up all right last one cosmetic nomad forty two says japan's yes they do because if so i like mixing coke with sprite. You're crazy causing the urine. You're wild i like you but you wild. I've never done this before. What i've done what i've done before is i've mixed them all like like you know the store. Oh yeah i have mixed coca sprayed and it weirdly tastes like cream soda to me. Has this like vanilla quality to it. But i am fascinated by the flavor chemistry behind. Like you said when you run your cups through every single option at a soda fountain. There are three there are three flavors that come through you. Get the aspartame. Whatever diet drink was on there get the scent of root beer and then you get the citric acid from lemonade. So it's like everything else doesn't matter if you just combined diet coke beyond lemonade. That would taste like the entire panoply. The smartest board of sodas elections and i'm fascinated by it. You know that one random thing that you forgot to mention josh. That that like high-seas stuff that fruit juice stuff. That's like in there. I think i think high see. They pulled it out of mcdonald's officially that's wrong. I used to prefer that to orange juice. With by mcdonald's breakfast kid nutritionally devoid right tasted real juice growth and then i had just the orange sugary high. That's corn syrup citric acid. And i was like yes. This is what a drink should dates like. And i stand by this and on that note. Thank you for listening to a hotdog sandwich. You only hear more from us here. In the mythical kitchen we got new episodes for your every wednesday. If you want to be featured on opinions are like casseroles you can hit us up on twitter at chef or and hendy zodda with the hashtag opinion casserole for mid kitten it in san on youtube or relaunch new videos every week. 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Trump launches Twitter tirade against Dems & impeachment after calling for unity & "Respect"; OP Senator "disturbed" by impeachment trial coordination between McConnell, White House; Senate impeachment trial "impasse" continues through holidays as Pelosi
"Out Front next so much for president. Trump's Christmas decor for unity. He's on a post holiday tear tonight. Plus the first Republican senator to take on the majority leader over impeachment is speaking out and high alert. US officials puzzled over North Korea's Christmas threat. Let's go out front good evening everyone. I'm Kate Baldwin in for Erin Burnett Alfred Tonight trump ending the holiday with a less than cheerful Christmas rant. Firing off tweet after tweet about impeachment flom. His from his Florida resort. The president was only seen today out playing golf but he clearly had a lot more on his mind signed calling House Democrats in tweets hypocrites over impeachment. Then calling the house speaker crazy and once again trying to label impeachment to scam in total tweeting fifteen times today mostly on impeachment and sending more than thirty tweets. Since Christmas Eve these attacks coming from the same president who you said this in his Christmas Day message while the challenges that face our country are great. The bonds that unite us are as Americans are much stronger together. We must strive to foster a culture of deeper understanding and respect that from president trump. Pamela Brown is out front. The White House for our so pam the hypocrisy of it all my friend the call for unity and then the tweets. It's clear this is weighing on him. Yeah that's absolutely right. President trump's twitter tirade standing in stark contrast kate to this unifying message that he delivered on Christmas in that statement. It is clear Kate. The president is shedding the short-lived Christmas spirit by taking direct aim. Democrats especially House Speaker. Nancy Pelosi labeling her San Francisco district as filthy dirty smearing her as crazy and remember he also attacked her just prior to Christmas with the baseless claim that she hates Republicans and his voters in that video conference after speaking with US troops so the president hasn't is clearly agitated. That Speaker Pelosi is holding up delivering the articles of impeachment to the Senate and deciding on impeachment managers until after it is clear her what the parameters of the Senate trial are and there is no sign tonight of a break that impasse that she has majority leader Mitch McConnell so what appears replaying out. Cade is present freshly impeached by the House eager for vindication in this in a trial in a tense break over the holiday stewing over the uncertainty of of. What will happen next now? I did speak to a close a source close to the president's legal team who tells me the lawyers for the president here at the White House personal lawyers they are still busy preparing for an eventual a senate trial as this source said it's not like lawyers are sitting around with nothing to do and I'm told that there are still serious discussions about having the lawyer Alan Dershowitz along with some gop allies of the president play a role in the Senate trial but things are still fluid. The timing of the Senate trial still fluid. So I'm told the only anything for certain in terms of the president's legal team is at Bologna of the White House counsel will be leading the defense in the Senate and he'll be assisted by several deputies and and also that the president's personal outside counsel will be playing a role kate then the only other certainty is that the president will not be staying quiet throughout. It's good to see you out the problem now. Democratic Congressman Gerry Connolly of Virginia Congressman. Thanks for coming in with UK. Appreciate it what. President trump is hitting on with some of his tweets is something that I have heard from other Republicans. which is that Democrats said? There was urgency behind impeachment in the house because the president presented a national security threat. I mean you have said that. He posed a clear and present danger yet now. Real or perceived Democrats are holding up the process and the Senate. What do you say to that? Well I think that the Speaker Kerr has reason to want to know what the institution the House of Representatives is handing over to the other institutions the to the United States Senate and what kind of fair trial. They're going to organize She's got to be bothered as most of us are Including Lisa Murkowski of Alaska Republican senator by statements made by the majority leader. Mitch McConnell and by Lindsey Graham and a few others That have clearly showed there anything but impartial. If this for normal trial and they were being looked at in the process for putting together a jury very that'd be dismissed from jury because they're not a partial. They have to take an oath the political trial. It's the trial Kate. It's a constitutional trial. They take a second oath to be impartial. Why do you think they take that oath? It's not a game. It's not something you'd be. You believe some of the Democratic senators in the in. The Senate are Impartial Elizabeth Warren is going to be impartial Bernie. Sanders is going to be impartial. On I believe every senator has has an obligation under the constitution to look at the evidence presented and to conduct a fair and impartial trial and arrive at a hopefully fair and impartial verdict. So let's talk about the process because it is important. I WANNA play you mentioned Lisa Murkowski. Let me play something that she said about. How Democrats ran the process in the house? Listen to this speaker. Pelosi was very clear very direct that her goal was to get this done before Christmas. If there was such urgency that it needed to be done before the end of the year then for what purpose die a she hold back on them at this point in time. We talked about that a bit just now but you have conceded. The articles aren't going to be withheld indefinitely. Should there be at least some sort of time line offered from the speaker. Well I think she's being smart in a creating some space for are Democratic leaders Schumer and the majority leader Mitch McConnell to try to come together and agree to some rules of engagement as the Republican and Democratic leaders did in and the previous impeachment trial Secondly she's got to be worried as I said earlier about statements from the Majority leader who said that they'll virtually be no distance at all between the Senate and the White House that he would be in full coordination. That trouble Lisa Murkowski. It troubles me and it probably almost almost certainly troubles speaker Pelosi. The speaker does need to name the house managers at some point. She said in her letter to Democratic House members this week that the number of people who want to be managers is indicative of our strong case. Obviously saying that there are a lot of people who want the job. Do you want the job I'M GONNA leave that up to to the speaker. She has A long list of very able members Obviously I'd be honored if I were asked but there are plenty of other members as well who are quite. What are the qualities ladies? Wha what is what what qualifies capable. What are the qualities if you don't want to name anyone that you think is important one these house managers for this moment good question? I think I think you've got to have a certain Logical progression of thought. That you can expostulated In the Senate to make a very compelling case I think you've got to be articulate. I think you've got to do your homework. That'd be very disciplined in laying out the facts and the evidence of this case Ace And hopefully persuading if not members of the Senate certainly the American public as to the gravity of the abuses of this president. You do you. Do you want the Senate to interview Mulvaney N Bolton. I think it would be useful If they did I thought it was very disingenuous in the part of Mitch. McConnell to say the house now wants the Who wants the Senate to do? Its job because they didn't interview them. Well we didn't interview them because they would not cooperate with a subpoena Or with the request to testify under White House Direction. If there's a court case still pending I believe with Mr Kuperman As to adjudication by court which do I abide by White House counsel Or a subpoena issued by the House representatives so Since we were not able to access their testimony it's perfectly proper if the Senate wants to do a thorough job and determine Innocence the guilt with respect to the charges brought to them in the two articles of impeachment. They should hear from this witness. I guess still not clear if that would make them show up a- any more likely they would show up then if they did in the house regardless congressman. Thank you for coming in my pleasure Cape. I'll front for us next could key. Republicans throw a wrench into Mitch. 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We you have to take that step back from being hand in glove with the defense out front now Joe Lockhart former Clinton White House press secretary car. Immersion Washington Post Congressional reporter and Michael Gerhardt Account a constitutional law professor who testified during the House impeachment hearings. Thanks for being here. You guys are really appreciated. Car and Murkowski knows her. Every word is being closely watched when she talks about impeachment. What is she he actually saying here? Well this is a bit of a message to the GOP leaders that you know what if we do this. We need to do this right. We cannot be working hand in glove. We need to do it fairly. There has been this. This dispute between the Democrats and Republicans as to what is a fair trial and I think that for people in the middle like Murkowski like Romney like probably Susan Collins who are representing an electorate that is not necessarily incompletely when one camp or the other on impeachment. They're saying look to say that we're working hand in glove with. The president is fundamentally speaking. Not Fair. Whichever way you think the witness list questions should come down? And so she's basically sending a signal to people like Mitch McConnell that. She's not comfortable with this. She don't count on her to go along with just rubber-stamping whatever. The trump defense team wants to do So it's a signal that maybe Lisa Murkowski's voters in play when it comes to determining who was going to be on the witness list whether anybody will be testifying from the Senate but I wouldn't go so far as to read that it's a signal that she is going to vote to convict the prisoner anything like that. There are a lot of interim steps. And she's fundamentally talking about fairness not guilty or not guilty of the president ultimately there is a long road between here and there. Joe Your perspective is. Is this significant coming from her. It is and I think there. There are conversations going on among a Republican. It's very well known that they're behind the scenes. Republicans pins in the Senate have a lot of problems with trump. Don't ever talk about it out loud so I think it is significant. You know if Mitt Romney had said this trump would have been all over he's a never-trumper and all of that Murkowski doesn't have that same. You know public persona so I also interesting. Put it that way. That trump hasn't said anything. Well he you know He. He alluded to it in one tweet today talking about all the Republican Senate the fifty one republican senators with with McConnell right. You know you can do the math. Maybe he meant trump. Maybe he met Hausky I was not giving too much credit here but I think the conversations Are that are going on. Or how do we how hunter we roll this out with maximum pressure on McConnell to change so the people to watch now I think are in three groups Romney his in his own group the six or seven vulnerable senators who arrive. Everyone from Cory Gardner to Martha mcsally and then the retiring senators and I think Lamar Alexander interest key there so when they come back. It'll be really interesting to see if maybe Senator Alexandra ways or Senator Romney or Senator Gardner because they only need for and I think what more than anything this Murkowski telling McConnell. You can't do it this way. Come back with a better better offer and we'll talk. That is interesting Michael. It's not unheard of in term for McConnell to coordinate on some level with the White House that happened during Clinton Clinton impeachment joe well but where is the line. Well it's clear senator. Kyle's cross the line. He's the first Senate majority leader in the history of the United States to declare a presidential impeachment trial. The he's going to coordinate everything with the president that's a quote he used the word everything. And and that's what makes this particularly unusual and we expect perhaps some coordination at some level Senator Daschle Minority leader at the time. The Clinton impeachment trial cordy. Okay with staff a high level staff in the White House But here it sounds as if the majority leader will be in constant interaction. Not just with the president the with his top lawyer who will be there at the trial representing the president. So this creates the the atmosphere in which Senator Murkowski has come forward to say. Hold on on we've got to rethink this This doesn't look like a fair trial. It's not being perceived by the American people as a fair trial. Our job is and I think she's right about this our job it's to protect the institutional integrity of the United States Senate and I think that's what she's trying to do car. Let me play something. The president said over the holiday about the Senate impeachment the process ultimately that decision is going to be made by Mitch McConnell and he will make it he has the right to do whatever he wants. He's the head of the. Should I have to say. I was quite surprised that coming from a man who has often said the only opinion that matters us his own. I mean do you think. Mitch McConnell McConnell is really driving strain not by himself and I think that if you were driving the train by himself he wouldn't have felt like he had to say that he was working hand in glove with the president Mitch McConnell has had some influence over the White House. He certainly had many influence over the president's advisors he's been able to pursue agendas that he cared about a lot in terms of you with judges and things like that but Mitch McConnell has not been the voice and the bully pulpit of the GOP since trump took office. I don't think that that has changed radically overnight. I think the fact that the president it said that probably made it both McConnell and trump's legal team breathe a bit of a sigh of relief that he is at least publicly saying okay. I'm deferring to the Senate majority leader on this but the president. I didn't have to follow that comment. That statement with the discipline of make sure he stays on that message with his twitter account in the days and weeks ahead and also it's. It's clear that the president does wield influence here and that the the Congressional Republicans are responsive to that influence. That it's been the way it's been on every subject that has been the way it's I've been to date on impeachment as well and it does not seem that just because the president has said this at that fundamentally changes that power balance But but the fact that he said it does potentially give McConnell a little bit more ability to respond to these charges that he's just doing the president's bidding the fact that the that the president has said. No it's okay. I'm going to defer to him all right guys asking if you could stand by out front next. We're learning more tonight. About what a Senate impeachment trial might look and sound like wasn't senators will not be allowed to speak which would be good therapy for a number of them and for all of us and to billionaire. Candidates dropped two hundred million dollars on advertising advertising alone. Is this spending out of control. 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Nancy Pelosi on when she will send over the articles of impeachment. Or what Democrats want to see. These senate trial looked like and so far of course. Mitch McConnell not blinking but there are some very interesting things we do know already lauren. Fox's out front the communique six days a week and absolutely absolutely no talking. Those are the rules that could govern the Senate's impeachment trial a we will have to convey in every day six days after out of seven at twelve thirty one o'clock in the afternoon senators will not be allowed to speak which would be good therapy for a number of them contours of the trial L. or still in limbo we don't know the arena that we are in. We'd like to see a fair process. But we'll see what they have and we'll be ready for whatever it is but if all else fails L. Senate rules from the past impeachment. Trials may serve as a model this time around once the articles are sent over the rules. Dictate that a Senate impeachment. Trial is to beginning at one PM. The following day and expected guests in the Senate Chamber F- Chief Justice John Roberts presiding over the Senate trial. He he wants. It begins the sergeant of arms will issue a stark warning to senators to quote. Keep silence on pain of imprisonment. Senators also sore expected to take an oath vowing to quote do impartial justice before sitting in their desks for the trial of your. There's no way of knowing how long a trial could last. Many Republicans have argued. They'd prefer shorter one without any witnesses. Even the president has suggested he wants a more robust defense wants to clear his name give President his day in court. And let's get this behind us a win talk about things that people really care about also unknown who will play play. The role of the house managers the Democrats who will make the case against. The President Speaker is waiting to understand what the rules of the of the trial. We're GONNA be so. She's appointing the right people once. The trial is underway if lawmakers have questions for witnesses or motions to offer they would likely make them in writing to the chief. The Justice Center will convene is court of impeachment when it's time to vote on each article of impeachment lawmakers stand next to their desks and answer guilty or not guilty Mr Spector and Arlen Specter. They're all making a very famous vote by saying not proven therefore not guilty and that confused. The Senate clerks for a moment kate but you know so much of this is unknown at this. This Point Majority Leader Mitch. McConnell hopes to have control of all of his Republican members but it only takes fifty one votes for any of these rules to change and to to really change the course of history kate. Hope is the operative word on that one. Thank you Laura. I really appreciate. Everyone is back here with me so right now speaker Pelosi on some level is leaving everyone everyone hanging no idea when the trial is now going to begin. Or what exactly. It's GonNa look like or even what the definition of a fair trial is in the eyes of House. Democrats is this part of a grand plan Dan or do you think. The speaker is making a tactical mistake. No I think she's effectively using leverage to keep the focus on whether they'll be live witnesses or not if she. You had sent the articles of impeachment over to try to start a January six and we'd all have moved onto. You know exactly who the house managers are and gaming out the trial so it was very smart. I think if you go back to nineteen ninety nine I remember you want to build you. I really do. I remember distinctly Gli You know we made what I thought was a a great proposal. You know to Tom Daschle saying. Let's do this quickly. Everyone's been interviewed. Know why witnesses and he said you know are considerate and then the chief of staff came into my office and said well. They've told us to get lost. They're going to do it their own way. They voted on hundreds of nothing and I said well what am I supposed sustain. He said just blast on. I was like really and he. He said Yeah so the Senate has the ability to tell the White House to get lost. They did it. Nineteen ninety nine and they should do it again fascinating. You're on on. This is always something that just draws me and tell me more joe car the Democrats in almost every interview that I've seen including with Jerry Connolly deceiving on with me or applauding Pelosi's approach here from Congress. Is this further evidence of the tight grip. She has on the caucus or does everyone do genuinely agree with her. Look I think that there was we. We saw DISCHORD play out within the house. Democrats and over the course impeachment inquiry over the course of choosing what sorts of articles that are actually going to file they. We're not as united as they wanted to seem very very long time at many very many turns on this road but they came to a point where ultimately when they took that vote In late December they were all but To people on the first article in three on the second and one of those people that do not stick with the party switched parties after that so they've reached this point of cohesion and frankly their their worst play at this point would have that start to fray and break apart at least publicly as they're trying to stand up to the Senate right now to guarantee that there can be a trial that consider acidity their articles in their charges the way that they think that that should actually happen and do so by looking at witnesses as well so I think it's. It's interesting that you're hearing Pelosi as as we've been reporting for years has quite a ability to count votes and and and and work with the ranks of a party and both carrots and sticks for doing that but but the fact that they went through this entire process and came to this point is I think why you're seeing so much unanimity in the voices of that are talking about what her play is right here and also I think it's important to know that you're not hearing from the moderates who were kind of the last holdouts on the impeachment vote and everything else like that they are kind of keeping their own counsel during this this break and probably probably for the if they had any if they're still harboring doubts that's probably a strategic. Move to make sure that that Those questions are not being voiced at a time when it's important for everybody to kind of hold rank until they figure out what's going on with this tug of war between the House and Senate and that's a great point and Michael Though there is a lot that we do not know as more was laying Out in that piece there are some very interesting rules that are already in place. Senators required to submit your questions for witnesses in writing. I don't know why I'm so fascinated by it but I am no matter how partisan this trial is. How formal is it likely to be? It is likely to appear to be quite formal. Keep in mind that this constitution says very little about the trial. Of course it's the constitution. Says the Senate has the sole power try impeachments. The Senate gives the Constitution gives the Senate authority to devise its own procedures otherwise and then the critical thing to read which I doubt many people have read are the the actual. Senate rules that pertain to impeachment trials. And so those rules for example provide that. Nothing's in the Senate is going to begin. Until the articles are marched over to the Senate so all the talk about the Senate doing anything before the articles arrive is in complete contravention of the rules beyond that as you point out there are requirements That senators put it down to questions of writing and the other critical thing to watch for is the resolution that gets passed at the front end of the impeachment trial. That resolution is Joe is referring to earlier that was passed one hundred two zero and that resolution will dictate the basic procedure that symbol. That's the thing to watch and that will inform everybody about what are the procedures that will follow very soon thereafter and the actual trial fascinating. Joe When we think about the trial one unknown still still amongst a lot is who will be speaking for the president. We do know that Alan Dershowitz Panel Brown has been reporting. This has been informally advising the presence legal team and trump was seen talking talking to Dershowitz at dinner on Christmas Eve. Just a couple of days ago is Dorsey with someone that you could see the president tapping to speak for him in the Senate trial. Well I think if if the president's goal was to make this into a reality TV program and a three ring circus you there's no better than Alan Dershowitz. The only one who'd be better. Where's Rudy Giuliani? The other one who's been floated now. Both of them are embroiled in their own legal disputes. Right now brewed being investigated by. Sdn Y Alan Dershowitz Switzer's involved too. I think to people suing him for sexual assault as part of the broader Jeffrey Epstein case. So I mean I I was trying to think of who the third ring in could be and I guess he could bring in Waco Albany just to try to be bipartisan but if his goal is to make fun of the process. You're going to see people like Dershowitz. It's Juliani on on the floor of the Senate Standby Standby I. Guess is the only thing I'll say to that. Thank you guys really appreciate it. Thanks so much out front next. Wouldn't wouldn't you spend one hundred million dollars. Do you get to about five percent in the polls yes I know your answer is i. Give me one hundred million dollars and then we'll talk about it but that is what at least two billionaires have done already already. This cycle and military is on high alert for Kim Jong Christmas gift. What does he sending? Hi Everyone I'm poppy harlow were out with a new boss files episode. She ran for president was the first woman to run a fortune. Fifty Company and a cancer survivor. Who says she? She is not afraid of anything anymore. Carly Fiorina she's out with a new book find your way unleash your power and highest potential. She was CEO of hewlett-packard during the dotcom boom and bus. Before being fired in what she calls a boardroom brawl. She's faced. Discrimination survived breast cancer Sir and lived through the unimaginable loss of a child. She calls herself a problem solver and says that's why she ran for president after running against then candidate trump two thousand sixteen to Sheikh think he should be impeached amount. I asked her here at all on boss files subscribed today newham like everybody in Palm Beach. No no one knows how the happening was gardening my short and pulling my body onto already naked body after the night for sixteen years. I've reported on Jeffrey Epstein's eighty the man the multi-millionaire the monster now go behind the story with me Vicky Hurst of CNN's new podcast. The Jeffrey Epstein I knew subscribe now wherever you get. You put costs tonight tonight. Twenty two thousand presidential candidates are trickling back on the campaign trail. After a holiday break. Andrew Yang was in South Carolina. Tonight where if you turned on the TV and you like did. He could very likely clear have been greeted by millions of dollars advertising. Not by anyone in the top tier but from at least one of the two billionaires running tire and Michael Bloomberg are spending it combined in two hundred and eleven million dollars on television advertising already. That's more than seven times. The combined total of what all of the other democratic campaigns have spent on television advertising retiring. Think about that out front now. Patrick Healey politics editor at The New York Times in CNN political analyst and Maria Cardona Democratic strategist and CNN political commentator. It's it's good to see you guys so thank you. Do you see evidence yet that this kind of spending this level of it is proving effective some evidence but not the kind that the candidates necessarily want Tom Steinmeyer. It's all short term. It's basically to bump up. His poll numbers a little bit in order to get into the debates dumb that but but there's no really long term strategy or momentum that has developed for him so he's really burning money just to get what ten eleven minutes of airtime time in these debates. Michael Bloomberg on the other hand is seeing bumps in the polls up to like five to seven percent which is very fast so that money is having impact and even more important for Democrats party that has not raising a ton of money right now. Compared to Republicans he is pouring money into these anti-trump attack ads. That as we know in two thousand fifteen republicans were attacking each other. They weren't going after trump until it was too late. So the the key thing though that we don't know is whether the Bloomberg Bloomberg money will lead dry real national strategy on Super Tuesday whether there'll be a payoff never been tried before we just don't know and some have argued known. No one has been able to afford it before as part of it but to to Patrick's point in just so our viewers can see if this this latest polling shows Bloomberg at five percent nationally star at at one percent but as Patrick points out in the early state polls he has made it on the debate. Stage both both spending these enormous norm ass- honestly obscene sums of money and deploying into very different strategies rights dire focused on the early states and Bloomberg focused on really only Super Tuesday states. And beyond do you see one candidate using this money better than the other. Well let's take a look at it and see the reasons why this is happening Kate so Mike Mike Bloomberg is not doing the Super Tuesday strategy because he thought it was the smartest thing in the world to do. He's doing it out of necessity because he got in so late eight and he didn't see there that there was really a possibility for him to really make a play for the early states. And so you know while it's never been tried before he. He is doing what he needs to do. In terms of trying to make it as as possible and as probable for him to get ahead in the in the Super Tuesday Tuesday states. But I think there's a couple things going on here. The first one is that the message is not one that is consistent with Democratic Party messages. Right and that's what you're seeing from Sanders and Warren attacking these billionaires saying. They're trying to buy your votes. The second thing is that a lot of the voters aren't really clamoring for billionaires to have jumped into this race and so a lot of people view their candidacies as simply vanity projects for them and that there's no real pathway and no real base for them to get to the point where they need to be and let's think about delegates right while there has been some increase in the percentages tonnages from a polling perspective right. We're one month from Iowa these candidates and I'm talking all candidates here need to start showing that they can can at least get some delegates and that doesn't happen until you top fifteen percent of support in any state. Let's let's actually hone hone in on Iowa Because I want you both both of your take on something that political points this out and I think it's actually very fascinating. Really political is reporting some some democratic insiders are saying Bernie Sanders could win the nomination and Dan pfeiffer one of the people quoted in the article who of course is an advisor zero two former president Obama. This is what he says in his quarter to sang. I believe people should be taking him very seriously. He has a very good shot of winning Iowa. A very good shot of winning New Hampshire and and other than Joe Biden the best shot of winning Nevada. You supported Clinton in two thousand sixteen. You were pretty critical of Sanders and the talk about Iowa though now it really does often overlook sanders thirty nine days to go to Iowa. How good of a chance do you think he has this time around? I completely agree with Dan. I think that every other candidate who sees obviously every other candidate as a threat but more so those that are at the top of the polls should see sanders as a real threat because he has shown not just staying power but bounceback power right at the beginning. I think a lot of people to their payroll kind of thought that his time had been over over. Time was two thousand sixteen that Elizabeth Warren was the one who was kind of eating his lunch and that the horizon the polls really put a dent into his supporters. And that may they have been true at the time but we're now back full circle where he is the one showing the strength among the Progressive Base. And I think that a couple of things that people saw him saw saw as vulnerable vulnerabilities for him were actually strengths and so we should absolutely taken very seriously every candidate should because anything is possible at this point I do think it's fascinating. meaning that the talk especially in Iowa. It's about Warren. It's about Biden. It's or even P- Buddha digit. What do you think about this? Why do you think Sanders has not gotten the attention and also that would mean for a lot of scrutiny? Sure I mean what am I reporter. Sydney Ember spent the last several weeks talking to sanders supporters and other supporters. About sort of who their second choices either who their first choice thing that we hear over and over again That Sydney reported today is that all the other candidates rates will name like two or three other zeal. You'll hear Warren talked to support us. Talk about booted talk about Biden if the Sanders supporters. Who say it's Bernie Bernie? The problem is when it's burning your bust but the good news burning right now is those people are loyal. They're likely to turnout on caucus days. They're not going anywhere and there's enthusiasm awesome there yet again. Can't wait for Iowa. Good to see you guys. Thank you so much out front asking. US officials puzzled by North Korea's threat. Is Kim Jong backing down. Down and Latinos for trump. Can they grow their support for the president. Thank you bye-bye were you. was officials puzzled after Christmas has passed without the quote unquote Christmas gift threatened by North Korea. Officials had expected that to mean a missile test of some sort. President trump. On Christmas Eve seem to downplay the escalating tension this way. Maybe it's a nice president. Maybe it's a present where he sends a beautiful vase as opposed to a missile test. Kylie Atwood is out front in Washington Tonight Kylie. What are you learning yes okay? US officials are a bit puzzled because Christmas has passed and that Christmas Christmas gift that North Korea promise hasn't come and as you said they expected it was going to be some kind of weapons tests by North Korea that is what satellite imagery and US intelligence indicated. They were preparing for but the bottom line here is that the. US is still prepared for that to potentially happen. Just because it hasn't happened doesn't mean that it won't and the U. C. N. N. has learned that the US has pre approved a series stories of military actions. That could take these are show of force actions. They're not direct military actions against North Korea but their options that include things like like US aircraft aircraft bombers flying over the Korean peninsula or military drills happening on the ground and that is the reporting from the Pentagon from Barbara Starr tonight so. US officials are still prepared for this possibility but it is important to note however kate. The North Korea has has carried out short range missile tests over the last few months and the US has done nothing in response. It's a very good point. Thank you so much carly. I'll from now ambassador. Joseph June he was president trump's special envoy on North North Korea. He was involved in the hostage. Negotiations that led to the release of American College student. Auto warmbier ambassador. Thank you for being here. Thank you good to be with you. Thank you so much. Are you surprised that Christmas is coming on. And so far no missile test. Well I must say somewhat but however I do think if you look at the original statement From Kim Jong UN he mentioned end of the year so Christmas especially in Korea is a little bit of a flexible concept. It does not end on December twenty fifth. So I do still expect something could happen within next COUPLA weeks but also remember that Early January is Kim Jones birthday so we could this period of could extend for I would say on the two or three weeks or so. That's that's very important perspective. And but the harsh the reality is that nothing. The administration has done since that first summit in Singapore has stopped the north from continuing to build up its weapons program its arsenal and earlier this week. The president's former national security adviser John Bolton said this he said that the idea that we are somehow exerting maximum maximum pressure on North Korea is just unfortunately not true. Do you agree with John. Bolton I do agree with John John Bolton most of this pressure remember was in sanctions and almost by definition sanctions erode over time. And if they're not automated if they're not strengthens they will erode and this is especially true because most of North Korean trade with China over ninety percent end of North Korean trade with China and China has not really been enforcing those sanctions and this is also due to us. Trade war with China. So there is no into zero-some in China or Russia to enforce the sanctions so as a result Baltin is completely right. Maximum pressure is no more sanctions. Pressure has eroded you mentioned the end of the year. I mean the north imposed self imposed deadline of At the end of the year for the United States to soften sanctions is when it comes to the stalled nuclear talks when the US does not what does that mean. Well it means that Really if you're looking at it from Kim Jong UN's point of view that's his highest priority to get at least some sanctions relief and if that does not happen. He's going to react and it's going to react. I believe As Kylie as mentioned most likely missile launch is one of them and remember Descends been president. Trump's big saying that there has not being an ICBM so I do expect over the next few weeks there will be some kind of provocation from North Korea ambassador. Thank you so much I really appreciate it. I'll front for us next. The president's Latino supporters sticking by him even though they admit that it's a tough road to travel and on New Year's Day. Be sure to tune in for the new CNN. Film Linda Ronstadt the sound of my voice. She came to Los Angeles Angelis. I was eighteen years old and we found a little bit of color. Show system ponies the L. S. was in Europe and the whole damn thing broke loop. There was a lot of music. Folk Music Co Mingling. Hopton we define what this is going to be Glenda was the queen. She was like what beyond says now. She was the only female artist five platinum albums in a row bad. I can't help it if I'm still in love with you was hit on the country charts. You're not good with a head on both the R&B chart the pop chart by became the first artist to have a hit on all three charts. She was the first team rock. And Roll Star the sound of my voice New Year's Day on CNN tonight President President Trump's border chief promising trump is close to delivering his promised wall and while many Latino voters opposed trump's wall of course one supporter. No Paso thinks he can help win over over those same voters out front are you a member borders panics yet ray Baca has his work cut out for him as the chair. Chair of the Border Hispanics for trump living in the democratic stronghold of El Paso. His goal is to get Latinos to help reelect the president. But the odds are against him on with mortar Hispanics for trump. Are you have you heard of us. As the sixty five year old sees it. There are countless Latinos who support the president but are afraid to admit it. He hopes to convince them that their values are or more in line with the GOP. And with trump I look at president trump as one who most closely represents my values people will hear that and say values values values is the president. Has When you say that. What do you mean? I'm being supporting things that I support being against. Abortion being for limited government involvement being for border security indeed support for trump in Texas among Latinos has remained steady at thirty percent according to a recent CNN. Poll the unwavering unwavering support comes in the face of criticism over the president's rhetoric on the Latino community which is critics at best see as offensive and at worst racist when Mexico it goes sends its people. They're not sending their best. How can you still support somebody who they see as saying racist things against the Latino community? I disagree I I. I really don't think he's said things that are racist in August twenty. Two people were killed in a racist attack targeting Latinos El Paso Walmart Bacha says anyone who blames trump because of his rhetoric and border policies is trying to make political hay of the shooting. I just don't think you can hold a president or president trump in particular responsible responsible for the actions of a Single Madman Bach agrees with the president on most things but not everything mainly though he supports the idea of a wall. He questions the practicality of building one across the entire US Mexico border a signature issue for trump and his base. But I see him with his fault I see him warts and all. I don't WanNA spend two hundred billion dollars on wall if you can do it for fifty million and solve the problem. I'm Rebecca. We're good to see you good to see you tonight. bacchus pitch for trump comes at an impromptu gathering of conservatives but even in a friendly crowd it can be a hard sell. Thank you bye-bye can't what all but there are already some unlikely voters he doesn't have to win over the president trump president originally from Mexico twenty nine year old block of basically became a US citizen just five years ago she plans on voting for trump trump again in two thousand twenty. I massive but why you know like I feel like someone's GonNa throw eggs. I'm your I'm going to be shunned from the Hispanic community. Can you know shunned by some. Perhaps but that's what Ray Baca and trump are counting on. We need to get our Hispanic brethren to whip voting Democrats Democrats simply because that's what they've always voted Dick Lynch CNN Texas. Thanks so much nick and thank you so much for joining us tonight. A C three sixty starts now. Are you interested in learning how enterprise scale companies drive organic traffic to increase their online visibility than download the voices of search podcast from the heart of Silicon Valley here search metrics. CEO Jordan Kuni. 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Winter is Crappening: Cast Preview Rewinders and Reminders
"Hello. And welcome to winter is happening new podcast by me, Ronnie, and that guy ever they are ban ban. Hey, what's going on? Thanks for coming to our first episode everybody. We just we come from watch crap. That's Bravo podcast. So we make fun of real housewife says and stuff like that. And we both love game of thrones. And figured why not make finis game of thrones. We love we love this. So yeah. And honestly like I have a very selfish motivation here because you've been watching game of thrones. Since the beginning as has like like half the globe. Whereas I held off for many years. You know, I had a situation where like I missed the first season. So then I was like, well, I'll catch up, and then I didn't catch up and then sued it became like this big daunting task like oh my God. I've all these episodes to catch up on. And then Finally, I just I just had game of thrones foam, oh, and this passive timber sat down and spent the entire month. Watching all of game of thrones all at once. And now, I'm finally caught up with pop culture. And personally, my big motivation is that like I haven't been able to sit in gab about game of thrones this entire time. So we figured you know, what for this final season of game of thrones. We're going to weigh in and be part of the conversation. Why the hell yeah. We're we're allowed to have opinions to aren't we? Yeah. We know that there's a lot of really intelligent game of thrones podcasts out there because we checked bunch of stuff out to see what's out there being uh. There's not really enough dumb ones. No. There really aren't what do house allows watchers do when they wanna talk about game of thrones. Yes. It by us, darling. So now before we start a new reality show season. Normally what we do is. We sit down with the pictures of the cast like if it's a real housewife. So we'll sit down. We'll just make fun of all the people just based on their looks and stuff and really shallow takes on the people. Well, this so is different. Because obviously, we know most of the cast and by now, I mean, we've seen them, and I know them too. So we're going to do the same basic thing we pulled up to HBO webpage with the cast. Yeah. And we also pulled up a another page that gives us an update on who's alive in his dead. Because even though a lot of this is fresh mind, and Ronnie you have been going back and watching the episodes again, they're like a shit ton of characters, and it's hard to remember who's alive and his dad like I woke up this morning, and I had this like very pressing feeling in my mind. I was like is Rick and alive or dead. And I don't even know why I cared because I can't stand Rick stark. He's dead, actually. And by the way, I'm like really glad he's dead. Because I thought like he was really annoying. I mean, I don't ever want to child to be dead. But Ricken honestly like he was he was like he did not as to even be stark. I'm sorry. He he did not carry the dark. But having a doorbell haircut. Dopey all the time. I'm surprised even made it so far. Honestly, I Rick between Rick and brand. I like don't need either of them. What's with the brand hate? I love my little brand hand brand. No matter what has happened to brand. He got paralyzed got pushed out the window. He's been chasing, my som- bees attacked by everything. And he's still like so cute and calm. He's just so as like, yes, amaafuza got pushed back, I push back on him being cute and come first of all, okay. This is like almost his own doing. Okay. The Queen the Queen of the entire country is staying in like a silo on your property. And what do you do you decide to climb up? You're not supposed to do that your child. That's the Queen. You're gonna go snoop. So then he goes, of course, he catches, sir. See having sex with her brother, Jamie. And so they push them out the window, and I'm not advocating violence towards children or towards anyone. No. But I'm saying like, you know, what though this is a cautionary tale. Like how about you? Don't climb up. He should have been climbing up in the first place. Not safe. Okay. Why wasn't he playing with sticks? You know, what we live in Los Angeles. Where people pay hundreds of dollars a month to go on a fake rock climbing wall and act like they're bad asses. Okay. I go kid you ever cute little bowl cut, a like a monkey's cut from back in the day, and you can climb you're active. You know what he do? He followed the noise. Listen, if you're gonna fuck your sibling, how about you be quiet, and maybe close the window like. That's a whole other issue. Like, that's like real ballsy of them to like to have like incest on someone else's someone else's guest room. Like, I would not have done that personally. But problem with their incest like their manners of how they did it. Well, yeah, I mean, I think if you're gonna be incestuous like do it in your own room. Don't like. The tower like don't do it in someone's instant hotel. Okay. But here's the thing. So brand he's like he's like, okay. So I he doesn't think that I'm like opposed to and then on top of that he grows up to be so Email. He's so annoying and people like try to hang out with him. Like, hey, brand what's going on? He's like sorry. I'm having a vision. It's like brand. He's so annoying. He's so like west Bentley in America like he doesn't see like like empty bags flying around just like stupid leaves? And then he's like, oh, yeah. It's like life's like shut up ram. Try to have a good time. This forest. I personally believe children are future. So I want to treat them while. Let them lead the way. Okay. Thank you for helping us with game of thrones. But also thing about brand is, you know, he keeps having these visions where he's in the eyes of animals and stuff he'll be like. Like, why is he always get to have the most exciting dreams ever? Like, where's the dream where he's just like biding his own? But for an hour, you know, real dog dogs have this exciting of a life. He's also not a teenager because if I were a teenager, and I can go into someone else's body. You know, damn, well, I would have liked totally got into lake some dudes body at the walking in so many guys about these. I would be totally like I would go into a hawkeye's body. And then look in the mirror and take off all my clothes. It'd be doing every single time like twelve years old right now. But that's what I'd be. I'd be like Hello Caldero. You know, I'll be like what's called Drago doing right now. I would be totally doing that. Also, let's not forget that brand ruin those tree people. You know, the first the first children or whatever they were called. Because remember he was like he got into maximum Dow's body, he's a three eyed raven, and he likes stayed in there too long. And then he caused something to happen. And then all the he. Caused it. So that like the like the the white walkers and the dead could get into the tree. And so then like the the first people had to sacrifice themselves. So that way brand get out and then hold or had to hold the door and all that stuff. And it's like brand you caused the race of people to like go extinct. Well, you know, what people live in a tree? Again, a better place. It's worth working a second job to have a better place who lives in a tree. Okay. The Keebler elves. That's. Don't share the Keebler elves. They give us some of the most delicious things like insect. I wish that he had made it. So somebody killed us can Keebler elves. They set cookies dry, always electric functions. Have you even ever had an elva? Have you even have you even had a pinwheel think those are Keebler, and I support them. I how about no fudge stripes. One of my favorite cookies of all time. You know, it's it's like a wheel, but it has chocolate on the back and then stripes on Kilbride Vicky right now, I'm brand breaking into your tree and killing you're allowed to do all over the wall. Wouldn't even have a cookie, you know, he'd be the type where if you gave them a delicious cookie. Like, actually, I preferred Abba cracker right now. I didn't want to cook. I am noble. Like shut up. You're speaking as long as we're here in the house stark what what are your thoughts on like aria and Sansa stark? Well, I love aria. I think that she is really gone through. So many weird awkward growing up phases on the shutout which I really like. I really she had one of my least favorite storyline. So where she went to like, the the faces people and they kept just starting your face, which I mean, we call that Los Angeles. LA? She SARS became an influencer. She's like, I'm already stock. And this is how you put on makeup. Yeah. She was like really big into prop comedy for a season two. And I kinda wasn't having that. And I'm finding that on my rewind. Which I'm like in a massive injury. Now my goal is to watch everything by the time. We really start this next week. And on my Benz, I find that I'm fast forwarding through aria and John Turk scenes like I really I like them. And I I don't want John. So do you mean Johnstone who did I say John star said, John John John from the New York Knicks? God I hate when they interrupt game with thrones to show highlights the ninety four season of the Knicks. I really liked shack. I hope he wins kidding Ray role. Patrick Ewing was wonderful on game of thrones, Michael Jordan while. So. Yeah. On snow, which you know. I mean in twenty nineteen he would just be called Johnson Archimedes. He calls her baby bastard, so rude. So I really like Jon snow and stuff, but he's Email starts are always fucking crying about something. And also I forgot that that start really died because he was just like, but I'm nice, I'm. Melba various who's like my twin? You know? I looked just like various dislike Farris. And so I keep sewing up in the first season trying to help him. I'm like girl. Listen here. Okay. This is not about being nice. And also who are you to get to say that you're nice you've beheaded like ten people so far season one. Listen, here's my thing. Okay. We've got off stark things here. So first of all, I also my point just to finish my sentence. Sorry, go. No. I I wanna I wanna speak to all the points that you made because he made a lot of really strong points. I also am a big fan of area stark and my issue. I also I wanted to actually love her going to that like house of a thousand faces or whatever it was called at like, it's sort of like a Sephora to me on the outside. So I like I like that she was going to choose this misunderstood totally take it for granted little girl who like who who's gonna go and become a bad ass, you know, like one of my favorite tropes is when there's some like puny girl or kid who people like no, you can't hold a sword. That's not what you can do. And then they. Become a bad ass. I love that. Rocky. Yeah. But but but what I don't love. I don't love the ninja DOJ. Oh trope. I hate in like movies or TV shows where you have to watch endless seems of training. It's like so interesting to me like the matrix. They got it. Right. It was like a montage. And then at the end, he's like, oh, I know kung FU and then we're like setting good to go. But here it's like, oh my God. It was like a season of her carrying water and pouring water on people. And then that other girl. Time. Now, I'm like, oh, wow. So sorry that you're blind for a second. And then that other girl who was like, she reminded me of I dunno. She looked like someone who I I went to college with who accompany harasser like beat her up, constant it just it was not interesting. It was not like the exciting blossoming that I was hoping for. But now that's done. And I'm really happy that not only she done with that. But she is like killing people left and right that need to be killed. That's like a really important thing for me. She's a bad ass and Sansa has a rough time everybody on the like are you didn't like her parents were killed. She had to learn, you know, on a bridge how to do kung FU two days or whatever. But. Yeah. And also like she has terrible timing. She like finally reunited with her entire family, and they all get killed. She's like, I'm finally here. I'm falling back there with my family red wedding time, but you know, Sansa. So here's the thing with Sansa. Okay. The last season, she became a bad ass became self possessions. Like, no, I run I run winter now etcetera, but she made so many terrible decisions. Let's not forget that Ned stark basically died for sauna. She's like I want to be Queen. I want to be Queen sign at photo signed this father. You'll be fine. And then of course, he gets killed. Anyway, that's on are you blaming her. Because I feel like he if she weren't like if she didn't make he was doing it for her. And like everyone knew Joffe was terrible. Like that was not a good decision. You know, like when he pretended. He was nice. But everyone knew look at his face Joffe was never going to be nice a little mushy mean person face. So lastly, John snow. I agree. I actually find in General, John snow scenes are pretty boring. I people love John snow, and I just find him to be. Hot. You know, get his whole like, you know, on the one with feelings, and I cry at the wall, you know, were whatever his deal. And I liked watching him the first time around. I'm not a hater is just that the second time around like right now, I'm season to where he falls in love with that chick from the good fight that little red head girl who's or whatever. And I'm like, oh, apparently his it's the worst version of moon biting ever, I'm like, I'm not sitting just again. I have to tell you something. Honestly, anytime they go north of the wall. I hate it. I don't I don't wanna watch people trudging through snow and being miserable. You know? And like it seems like every season they go north of the wall. They see something terrible. And they come back like, wow. That was terrible. We should never go back there again. And then John's knows like we have to go back north of the wall. Oh, again, like, why don't you like make make a list, then go north of the wall? Once take care of it, all and then come back and be done with it. Like, I'm just every single time. They go up there. I lose my mind. It's not where I wanna be. Okay. Yeah. I'm sorry. At this wall of faces like oh my God. Because I have the HBO thing pulled up right now. Yeah. A side side-by-side Walla faces and I have also all the families of who's alive and dead. I will say this in terms of house stark, according to digital spy dot com. Berea of tar is associated with house of stark because she has sworn while she originally sworn to the gay guy, the gay the gay brother. And then when he was killed by a shadow, she then like became sworn to like Catlin's, it was a whole thing. So basically to Kaplan. Yeah. Yeah. And then. Your. Ause? I had to say honestly, Brannagh tar, I think it's my favorite character. I I just love her. I love her. She always looks like she's so confused. He's always got that like she's about to cry. But she doesn't know why. Confused face like, she just a really like she just watched LA Bamba. And she's like so sad that Rajiv Allen's. But she knows. Yes. To be wrong. I'll tell you make some bad decisions Catlin stark. Good Lord every decision. She made was fucking terrible. When you re watch it, and you know, everything that's happened already. Like oh God. We're I she didn't know that. It was a bad decision. You know, it's like twenty twenty eight cetera et cetera. But God damn woman you made some stinkers. Well, she made a singer of sawn in in what's his face. Rob rob who was like gonna be like the king of the north liquor and like using a lead the way to victory, and he would have. But then he got like all cut up in a romance with what's her face? The both the parents ruin that kid because they're like, okay. Here's my life lesson to you be a good person. Don't tell your children to be good people. Good people beheaded K, and we already learned that from dead. And then we've got rob over here like odd going to do the honorable thing. And put the guy who helped the guy who helped me take a message juicy the cousin of golden hand. I'm going to put them in the same cage. So that he can escape and I'm like, oh my God. Why are you doing him a favor because he liked delivered your mail? Okay. What is wrong with you? Rob stark. And then he's like, then he fell in love with the woman while she was selling somebody's leg. And also he made that deal with that stupid fray dude with with the bridges with towers wherever it was called. He made a deal and the deal was he had to marry one of his daughters. Okay. And guess what? He was like oh God I have two daughters. He had hot daughters that guy. Remember because he's gave a hot dog. Yet one hot daughter. Remember, you gave a hot daughters that one dude? And he was like oh shit. I got the hot daughter. I remember. Christmases though. I mean, I kinda don't blame him, but also Catlin there she goes selling her children, and that you're selling them to Walter fray. I mean, girl I wish Chris Kardashian had been around back then so just like help her out and show her how to sell your children. Well, they rob made a deal. And then he liked breaks the deal because of he met. And that's what did him in, you know, like leg rot. She was just awful. I'm sorry. I was not into her. I thought she was annoying and there were annoying together. They're like those people if Instagram but around you would be muting them because it's everything would have joint Instagram called like rob into Lisa at Robin to lease. Lease. Like, oh my God where at the farmer's market together. Like everything would have been like ten days till our wedding, and like artsy Instagram stories, it'd be just the worst would have had that noble slant to it where she's like, we're at the farmer's market. And we save somebody having a heart attack. Oh draw. Well, you know that Lisa would probably do like a like a photo of her like in a bikini like a selfie in a mirror in a bikini. But the caption would be like take some time to think about yourself because you only have yourself and these days you have to be good to everyone. I was like you can't make fun of her because she put like a noble captions shut up. Lisa. She'd be one of those people. That's like oh my God. I'm not gonna have a baby because that's pollution, and I care about the earth. And I'm here to help people as a nurse, and then she has a baby and then post like twenty baby pictures day. She'd be like question for all the mommies out there. How do you think is the best way to put a baby seat in the back of your car? Just wondering why are you asking this to Twitter? No know, they're just so terrible at all times probably account for their kids to by the way and their dog. But rob stark bless his heart. He is so fucking hot. And the when he got killed. I was so sad. Just because of its hotness. You know, because I don't care if your wife's in idiot. I'll still love you. You know, happens plenty times in real life. I love him. But then he still has PTSD on his neck. So 'cause now he's on bodyguard. Which is a really, you know, it's a pretty good game of thrones. But it's pretty good and he uses but a lot, but he has PT, and I'm like, can you blame him has anybody here? Watch game frowns. So let's move onto house breath. Ian, shall we? Are you are you? Are you good with that, sir? Around. I mean, scroll down we still got mine hundred characters so we'll probably scroll down and see some more as we go. Yeah. So I mean, the breath is not a lot of people here. I mean, there was Robert the king. Whatever Ren Lee C. I was sad about Ren Lee. Because he was he represented us. He was he was gay was reading he was basically the Buddha judge of of game of thrones. So get killed by shadow was really disappointing. I feel like they were so much more sexually free back that like really cared that. He was boning that soared guy and then. Everyone found out that sir c was fucking her brother. No one really cared. I mean, they made fun of them and stuff. But yeah, you know, we'll Ren Lee was he was fucking the tyrel dude like Boris Loris tyrel, and they had a they had a cute list. But you know, one thing that really bothered me is that between the two then we never got to see any Pene and bothers me on this show that like a woman goes to the farms, Dan, and her kits compelling on we see kids interventions when she just trying to get some like grain. But on this show two guys are in love God forbid, we get to see their pain. But they do that thing where they're like. Oh, we've shown women naked. So now, we're going to be fans so men naked. And it's hor. It's always like an old beggar in like kings landing like, oh, it's like the old beggar dick or the guy who tried to poison denarius. I'm like, why do I have to look at his dick. Okay. Else? Literally that the worst option of the show they show his deck his little dick flopping around. That's not wanna how about how about we get some cattle drug. Oh, how about that? I. So yeah, Ren Li you know, what I liked about mentally. He was the only person who would dance with Brienne. Okay. Again, Brienne is my favorite and the whole backdoor the reason why she sorely just do it was basically there was like Barack Theam prom and all the guys made fun of brand but run -ly dance with her because he's a good gay. And like God, I love he used his gayness to help others. He was like, you know, what I'm giving a woman position on my seven. That's it. She won. She deserves it and everyone's like. Glass ceiling just broke it that. Yeah. He was kind of like one of the one of the best. Most progressive people that the show has in. And I feel like he doesn't even get mentioned enough. Well, he's dead now buying it's time for commercial. It's crap. 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Ins eighty and use the promo code crap ins eighty that's eighty dollars off your first month of hellofresh. Just go to hellofresh dot com slash crap. Eighty and enter the promo code crap eighty. Okay. So now, the brand Theun so Robert Barandy and that king over my Randy. And I'm sorry. I just know we're we're talking about game of thrones. Now, people people are get all upset Robert Barassie. And yet he this is like my fear of like really like two years from now is going to be this guy. He's like Ps three times a night because just so unhealthy. He's fat. And he's just like exhausted all the time. He doesn't even remember that. He's never fucked his wife like he's so drunk that you just doesn't remember then he doesn't even know. He's been poisoned like he's he's like. I drink too much. You know, like. That is so me on so many levels. And I just don't want to be that, you know. So I hadn't apple today. So that was my thing to say about Robert. Yeah, he was kind of like a dick like he's a dick too because he's like best BFF Ned stark, but kind of dictum to and trying to get like Kalisa killed, you know, and like I don't know like I felt like I wanted to like him. And I I enjoyed that. Like his I appreciate that. He will always love that Ned Stark's was a sister. Right. He'll always be in love with her. That's fine. But don't be a dick also be nice to be nicer to Ned and don't force to do every time. They talk about the sister. I think of Elda because like a statue of a sad little girl. Helper lake every time, they visit neds sister statue in the basement of winter fell. I feel like it's like a safe point. Like we're supposed to save the game or something. So really, the let's let's also king Joffrey Joffrey. I have to say he was just uniquely terrible. But wow, one of the great TV villains of all time. And like, you know, they tried. They did follow Joffrey up with that Bolton guy who was just also which one Ramsey's Ramsay Bolton. But Joffe was truly like he he was a great great Billington. And I was like happy to see him till? But also sad that we lost our great villain. I was sad at all. He was just they I mean this show is the best at making people the worst and getting so excited for them to be killed. Yeah. Yeah. They do it to the nice people. They make them the worst too. It's like an it's stark. Okay. Yeah. He's the most noble. Nicest one, but he so noble and gross that you're just like oh. Yeah. Exactly. Now, I have to say Thomasson whose job freeze younger brother who then became the king. He was he was the pits. He was so awful. He was so weak, and then he'd like he brought in the stupid fucking Sparrow. The highest Sparrow home like God. God the guy from Saigon. Actually, it's not that he brought him in actually brought in the highest barrow. But Tom in like, Tom sell for it over a little, you know, pretty pretty sexy time. He's like, oh, okay. I'm into Jesus. Now. It's like, oh, good talk about it. Every time you see him, you know. And it's like, hey, have you met, my friend? I know we're doing cooking bathroom together. Right mack. We talk about this later. You know, he clearly has like a bible verse in his Instagram bio, and you're like, okay. Enough. He's like highest borrow three sixteen like, okay. But when he thought it was pretty fun too. Because he escaped, sir. Syed? It's like that is the only way to escape, sir. C, you know, and as gay people, obviously, I'm just speaking for myself here, but and a lot of other gays as people, you know, Kate people understand, mommy issues. It's like it's like, yeah. Theme of all of our pop culture pretty much. And so when we see that it's like LL because I is like the ultimate evil mother. You know, the only way to escape your mother is to jump out of a window after she news your church. Yeah. He just quietly just like dropped out. It wasn't. It wasn't in Monty python and the holy grail. The guy just walks out the window. We all have. But. The road runner, Tom and just walks out on like emptiness and moves us. Drops. The road runner goes through king's landing. Whatever seriously put the TNT and the church, she's. Just see the Coyote like his face like just like black with smoke around it. So another thing that I didn't realize until I rewind it because so much happen when I look I'm sure that anybody listening to me for the first time today realizes that I'm kind of Bimbo. Okay. So when I first started watching game of thrones. I was like what is this? Who are all these weather, so many people I don't get it couldn't watch it. And then I tried again. I couldn't watch it. And it wasn't until I got the flu which is really how I've gotten into every single intelligence on TV. It's like you get the flu. And you're stuck in bed. And so I watched it all benching got really into it. But now we watching on getting it all again, I'm getting it now. And so I didn't realize back then that sir sees cousin know her nephew. She's having sex with in the first season is one of the people that tries to kill her from the religious Colt in it was her cousin. I don't think it was because he Loris and Loris is like. Laura sort of funny because in the first season he's like bumbling dropping like teakettles and things like that. But then, but then that's like when he's like around Barack like Robert because he says scared of him, but then he has sex with his cousin, and then he's like much more like calm. But then he goes away for two seasons and comes back with a shaved head, and he's like much more like Butch, and he's like a religious zealot. It's funny journey and I kind of enjoyed it. But I was so glad when he got killed because I'd had enough of him. Well, he was so hot by the end. I was like church have a free gym like what the hell has been happening to you because. Yeah, he really did get hot. He he he did great great work for himself. Offer that tattoo on his head. It's like why do people have to do that you worked out your finally Butch and hot now? And then you go and get a fucking tattoo you on your head. I know come. I can't stand it status breath. Ian. So he came in in the second season. He was actually we heard about them a lot in the first season. And he was he kind of is the rightful heir to this thrown. Like all this talk about who's throwing it's kind of blacks, you know, it's Khalifa's, but like assuming police he's not in the picture of the Barack it's really his, and I feel like he was meant to look like a villain this entire time in a certain way. But I'm like he kind of has like a really good claim because they all think that he's nowhere to be found. So given that and but the problem with STAN is that he was totally like into Mela, Sandra. Who like talk about Mela, Sandra is like like, she's the one you meet at the farmer's market. Who is like trying to get you to try a new kind of not butter. You know, you're like, okay. But then you fall, then all of a sudden, you're telling all your friends, try the nut butter too. You know, God you really in. The farmer's market today. Very specific space. Hundred for organic vegetables today. I just bought a cookbook that's called it's called six seasons. And it's about like cooking with vegetables. I think it's just very top of mind because leaving. What farmers market character with this person? Be. I'm just gonna grab everyone throws everyone every type of person. I am like that person over there looks like they're always selling olive oil status on my gosh. Well, okay. First of all, you know, don't bitch. A don't marry a bitch wife, and then wonder why no one of shooting. You know what I mean? So many people it's like you've or bit husband, whoever, you know, you marry dick and you're like, but I love him. Why can't my friends just support me? Maybe because your friends are giving birth to smoke baby's. Okay. That's why. Yes. Dennis's addict as well. Because I mean, he has he has this crazy wife who I think, you know, the crazy women on the show are so perfectly crazy like like cats sister Lisa who has her fourteen year old son still breastfeeding off of her like, the crazy bitches are are crazy in the way that I think as game we really respond to them. We we love that. But status keeps her locked up downstairs in like a jail with his daughter Charene. And by the way, I thought was kind of annoying. I didn't wanna see her burned alive. That's not nice, but she was kind of annoying Cam star. We'd like, okay. You know, he can get another tutor, but this is an inappropriate relationship. But status it's like I wanted to route firm, but there are things about him that like kept him from being great for me. You know? Well, he's one of those. It's like, oh, I'm not I'm not going to give you your way woman euro woman. I'm a man she's like, but my babies and he's like he's saying. Like a comedy from the eighties who acts like that. Yeah. He's just sort of like full of bullshit at all times. You know? That's why I don't like about him. But I really liked his storyline arc because a he wasn't even really religious. He was just trying to use that shit. So that he could get his way which is. Yeah. Whole, and you know, you shouldn't do that too bad. And also because he even burned his daughter alive to win and then lost anyway. And it's like, yeah. I love that happens. But I prayed really hard for it. It's like, yeah. But you know, you still have to actually work jar. He's like a constant failure. And like like like you always make the wrong decision at the wrong time. But I did I have grown to really enjoy Mela. Sandra at first I was like, oh, I can't stand this at first of all she gave birth to a shadow that killed. My little gay came to be and second of all she's just like clingy. And I felt. Up to no good. You know, she's like crazy. You know? She's like, she's she's like a. Like someone that you like go on like two dates with. And then all of a sudden she's like hitting you up nonstop. And you're like, oh this crazy. You know, but they still somehow like somehow get a foothold and then like they're in your life. And the next thing, you know, you're like forced to do things with her that you don't want to do, you know? I do. She's the one that gets you addicted to bad things, you know, what your problem? I think you have a problem like you started me on this. Yeah. Exactly. I burned my daughter because of you again, she's like, well, I guess a lot of light just mic him anymore. Okay. Start over, but I really did respect when they showed her as the old witch. She really is underneath all for spells. Totally busted. I mean that is self confidence right there. Yeah. And she did she did bring John's no back to life. So we have to respect that you know, that was nice of her. I mean, I guess as long as she leaves that ginger in the ground that wild Ling God, I really thought that was such an annoying romance. That's like it's like really one of the worst romances on this show even annoyed with all the good fight from this show. I'm like shut up like, I give her no respect. And she's like the lead the new of that show. She was also in down Naby, I think too. And I think she was annoying down navy. I think she was like I think she was a maid who was up to. No good. She was like a post opposed O'Brien made God the those never worked out for me. I mean, Brian O'Brien writer die here. So now, obviously Joffrey we talked about we talked about the worst side. So obviously, we have to talk about the brother and sister says he yes, it's time for the Lancasters. You know, my thing that I always thought was funny. And I've mentioned this on watch or crap ins was I always think it's so funny that somewhat so many names on the show are so like fantasy right? Like, see and Todd and step pies says, and and then you have Jamie, Jamie. Lancaster, Jamie, John. And isn't there like a Bob on this show? It's like, well, there's like a, rob. Oh, yeah. Rob on new. Kevin Lancaster couple of. It's like, oh, it's Joe. Just like very normal and like like guy next door says the Jamie. Yeah. Oh, tyrant Tyrian Syrian, of course. Yeah. So okay. Where do we start with these two? First of all, I would fuck my brother if it was that guy. Let's just the. Yeah. I'm really I'm mad that they cut off his hands. Because I felt like he was really out his best when he was like a swordsman. And now that he's like can't swing swords. He's like not as good. You know? This is definitely a housewife story arc where it's the biggest villain ever. Everybody hates them. Everybody's turned on them on social media. And they're like, but in us my hand and then ever. Now, let's just totally forget that he three some kid out a window killed the king it cetera Fook to sister etcetera etcetera. Everyone's like put his he doesn't have a hand. But he has also this like sad backstory of like, well, I didn't really want to kill the king Brad to game. Because if I didn't like I forget what it was. But it was like he killed the mad king because like he had he had to it was like he was like there was actually a noble reason behind it. And now he lives with the burden of being called the king's layer. Jamie, you're sleeping with your sister. The burden. So hard being famous wide over there. But I do love his relationship with brand. Because again, brand is my favorite. And I love that brea. The awkward outcast who had to dance with the gay guy at the school dance is like has like like, she has a protector in Jamie. Who's like, basically, the cool guy. He's basically like, he's basically like, Freddie, prince junior and Brion is richly cook. In my version of she's all game of thrones. And like that like that just like plays into like, my favorite trope. You know, like the awkward girl who liked the cool guy has a thing for like it works for me. Not me. Okay. Because I think of the the scene Samos fire where Mark Marquel number time. Yes. No. I know that's the same trope. It's. Kissing and he snaps her spanks, and she's like. I won't say midge Madge. It's it's not them. Putting more out burger in there. I'm thinking of head smack. See welcome. Just calm down over there. I feel your around your rising over their audience calmed down. K it's a mayor Wittingham. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Because she's always playing that girl and her name is winning ham. Like, oh, good. But by mayor winning him sounds like it would be a game of thrones character like you must speak with mayor Winningham. She controls the bridge. The winning on family. You can grow this bridge. But first you must marry my daughter mass of winning ham. They've been winning ham for centuries. So Serfaty, by the way, I e is one of my favorite. Okay. I want, sir. I know that she can't win because the so isn't that unfair? Hopefully, but calm I love her. I mean, she knew church to win. Okay. She's done. Is done some of the most heinous hideous awful things all their show, and I really want her to wear them. Like, you go girl. Yes. She's terrible. I mean, the fact that when she was like imprisoned, and then had to walk the streets make it, and we were like felt bad for her when she is like just the most vile person. Like that's to me like, that's that's me like perfection, sir. See I also wanted to win 'cause she's like she's not righteous the way the others are just power hungry. And I really respect that she to meet is like the quivalent of like real housewives of New York to me, the Lancasters are real housewives of New York. And then everyone else is like probably like like, the the stocks are probably Beverly Hills, you know, and like tar or probably like. Orange county. You know, the the really trashy ones account. Stop fighting. I really. Sir. See to me is like when she was walking naked through the streets. Like, you were just saying, and they were like saying she's hot and thin. I mean, give me a break. Like how you're going to see me. If I looked like that I'd be walking through the streets right now, you can say, whatever the hell you want. I never felt bad for see Yan. I knew that. Her revenge would be just so sweet which it was either was it was just as awful as he thought. And then on my rewatch, I'm realizing her story arc like she's really grown a as a villain since the beginning. She kept making stupid mistakes. And then yeah, you know, putting your son in power, even though he's a total idiot and you see her regrets. If she goes along lost another kid there. One another one because some shitty mistake. I made you know, I didn't know what she does. She gets like an an TM haircut makeover, you know, like, okay, I'm going to pixie cut. How about that? How about that? I mean, become more chic. Yeah. It was so weird because it's so weird how that Michael Jackson jacket. Really it makes guys look more effeminate. But I guess it makes her. More match. She's like I'm getting a bowl cut now. Even though it wasn't really hurt choice. But she decided I'm gonna keep it. Keep it now. But now, you know. Also Theriault who is play by what's his face? Peter tinkling, Peter Dink ledge I also like him like I don't like him as much as I think everyone else likes him. But but he's good. And I feel like he's always on the right side. You know, I think though, his I think his character was the best one he became the hand. Which was I think season two or so because then he started like playing against each other. And like that was when he was the best, and then we have to watch a few seasons of him being like, an outcast and cetera et cetera. And now loving Peter season two Peter tinkling jolly funny watching him. Just fuck everybody over with such sarcasm staff, but I really don't like seeing him in service to to to marry us. I don't like my bothers me. I don't love it. But I like it. I like him more than him being like, you know, being taken on a train across the desert. You know, I enjoy like like, I really really. Like him in various together. And and you know, I mean, ultimately, I do for generis quite a bit. You know, I'm very super after I probably want to Narus to take over. So I do like that. He is on like with good party. Not like with the great joys or something like that. But yeah, I think these into is really where he peaked and the elsewhere that nice relationship with shea shea became shea became a monster. Although that was of his doing I'm like, why did you do that? Now, you've heard shea, and then I don't know. Vessel hooker. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. I was really mad at her the Pretty Woman. I was so glad when he killed her because I was so upset with her as a cab dare you. Yeah. That's started it. I'm like, you're a Hooker. Okay. He grabbed you off. He's peeled. You off the whole the poll. And you know, what I didn't like do. I feel like I liked. I liked that Shay fell in love with him. But what I didn't like was like, okay, you're going to be here. And yet have a low profile because if anyone finds that we're both get killed while she do she starts walking around starts talking when Shay. Yeah. I was I was with her until. Until you know, went bad, and I wasn't supposed to be with her. And I'm very easily manipulated. I'm so mad even watching it over again. I'm like, I'm not gonna watch your scenes where you're laying in bed being in love. Because fuck you your dad, dad guns Tyrian, I mean, Taiwian Taiwian what what us son of a bitch and this fucking show. They make you like him because he's mice to aria. Okay. So I'm on the season. Now, I think it season to where aria is his apprentice or his cuff boy or whatever the holiday, and so he's like warming up to aria, and they're they're getting this like father daughter relationship, and is just so funny how the show works because he's like they disobeyed me. Well, Ben their villages and everyone in them care of the children behead the cows and the sex. So tell me about your father. I just liked that he got killed while taking shit. The most embarrassing way. And then Peter dick Lynch with that. Boeing aero someone posted something the other day on Facebook. It's this thing you buy your bathroom. It's one of those standing cardboard cutouts like they used to have in blockbuster and see close the door. Peter tinkling with a bow. And arrow. That's larry. So let's move onto house. Tar Garin since we started talk about her Darris deniro Garin, formerly marriage Caldero. They had you know, I feel like the fact that they killed off Caldero go in the first base at the first season. Right. Yeah. It was the first season. He died. I'm like, how do you get rid of Jason momoa so quickly? This is why this is not fair some of these people last forever and ever. And then you have like one of the hottest guys gets killed off by episode eight. It's not not right. Yeah. Count drago. I don't know that whole story. Look, even I'm kinda Matic him right now. The. On the plane this week. I watched aquaman and I've been so excited to see. It looks great visually. Love love. Jason Momo, moa, whatever. Aquaman can suck dick. Okay. Fuck that movie. Fuck everybody for trying to make me go. See it was terrible. And now, I'm mad at him much setup. Don't even have a tail swimming so fast. Yeah. Also, medical Drago because it's like, dude, you have you have a wound. You have to do something about it. Stop being tough. Now, it's infected and now they go find Mercedes Ruehl the witch. And then she, of course, fucks them over like, that's you know, like like if you just like spin more honest about your injury, we probably could have avoided. This was funny that we all like to nearest because dinner is such a hero. And everybody's reading for her to win. I think I think probably like eighty percent of. Yeah. Audience is reading totally why are we rooting for her? Okay. She can bring dragons back to life vast. Not good. I mean, I know you're going to need to kill the white walkers. But then they kill everybody else. Okay. It's racquets just sitting there having a peaceful lovely life. They're huge. What do you guys think you're gonna feed them? You know, that's that's her moral quandary. Which is like I can win this war. But at what cost, you know? She's always like. For her. And then when he got sick, and she's like, oh, I'm gonna pay the slave lady. And then she's like slave lady. Why would you fuck us over and end up killing him and turning immature zombie and the slave ladies like high because he burnt down entire villages and raping pillage tire city and everybody, I know and she's like, yeah. But I was giving you my freedom. She was like, yeah. I was literally raped three times. Fucking kidding. With me lady. Yeah. So I mean, like, I was on the slave lady side by the end of it. I'm like what she's the Astle camman? Also, I feel like deniro had a few seasons where she wasn't really doing anything. There was like a lot of wandering the desert and liberating cities, which was always felt good. It was always good whatever she like fuck someone over because there's always like she'd go into new city, and they'd be like this little blonde girl will give her a piece of bread and Giralda get going. She's like, oh, really? And then like dragon will burn everything down on it. On interest fun. But it was kind of. She's like. Staus all turned around and kill their masters, and then she got the army. I have to say oddly enough. I also I love grey worm who is like her head warrior, and I think what the reasons why I love grey, worm and Brienne of tar is that I just I I like how loyal they are. They seem like very lovely people and on top of that constantly expecting them to get killed off. Like, I thought there'd be dead three seasons ago. And the fact that they keep on like hanging around when people Jews memo get killed off with invive episodes. I can't believe they're still around like it makes me like more and more nervous that they're going to get killed off. Because you cannot tell me this show is going to end with Brienne and grey worm both alive. Like, we know they're going to die. So the more they say alive the more. I dread that they're going to die and the more. I that they're going to die the more. I get emotion invested in them. That makes sense. They there's too much romance storyline with grey worm for me so much shut up. Yeah. Turn him off. Yeah. I do not like his romance storyline. That's like the most uninteresting romance. Like, we do not need to see gray worms like personal life. We just need them to see. They're sanding San there and be loyal. And look, you know, sad. Sometimes he's very he's very Email and. The they've made it so that the women are like the strongest and the men are the cry which I like deniro has some like so posts college Rogo, she has this lake like this. She has a romance with Dario Horace who was actually played by two different guys who both were really hot the first guy. I thought was actually hotter than the second guy. But also like I think we're supposed to, but I don't really care about her relationship with him. And I'm I'm also like why is this guy still here? I'm surprised that he's still around. Yeah. But I like her in general, I'm just you know, she's I'm lukewarm on her right now because I'm at the beginning. So it's always like. I give me. I like that part of her when she became a bad ass later because the cheer the loudest for our when she kills people with dragons because it's always like this dumb little girl. I'm calling her a bitch in a different language show. Nabet got it. She's like Beto STAN, I have understood Spanish Azul time. And he's like cars that's kills. Cheer for those, sir. See finally, you know gets her way every single time. I cheer. I will say, yeah. There was also that weird moment where she went to that like fancy city which city that I thought was the best. It was like a rich city and everything was fine. But then her dragons got stolen by a Warlock, and then she had to go into that crazy house, and that was annoying. See that. But where we last saw her. She was having sex with John snow, which is problematic because I think Johnson was her nephew. Game of thrones. That's that's pretty far removed for fucking on this show. Yeah. I mean, it was notable. So so yeah. So they're fucking right now. Then we have we can show we move onto house. Great joy. Sure. Did we get through everybody land status? Lancaster's? We got through all the mainland's. There's some other random ones like master pie sell like that old dude. He was a creep these fucking gray. Joyce. Okay. First of all theon us. You little idiot. And of course, still towards the beginning where in the first season, great, you know, you like what a crate full what a grateful orphan, and he does show his being. But it's like why are we again, I don't know if we need to see the this is like an ongoing issue for me the Pene on this show. But I liked him in the first, and then the second, of course, he's a total jackass and betrays the Starks. Yeah. Offer what I city father. You know, your father's love really having important. It's really not like, you're an adult. Yeah. Okay. Job. Exactly. And get a job. He had a job. Yes. So he betrays all these people, which is so obnoxious. And so like, yes you wanted to get us come up, but then we had to sit through like literally an entire season of him being tortured. And it's like this is like the dark thing. Like, okay, I'm happy to see the training. I'm happy to see the torture. I don't know if I need to see entire season like every single day. Oh, there goes dum there. Go is nuts. They're goes. This goes, oh, we're going to let them lose. Oh, guess what? It was all like a trick. And he's brought back in. It's like it's like a lot. We don't need to see that much. Yeah. I'm not I'm not really feeling theon then his sister, his sister Yara. So you're you're sort of looks to me I feel like she's someone I went to college with and her name should be just. I want to call her just because she looks like adjusts to me so just makes her way all the way over to save him. And he's like I'm going to go on not going to go, and he's carrying like, you know, what the on like we have had to sit and watch you get tortured and you're finally getting saved and you're not gonna go, please. Yeah. It was you know, I'm done with the camped. I'm with him. I like to sister though, I thought. Yeah. Because she sat girl yet. Yes. He's like she's a chest. Hey, hey fatty, and you're like, oh, my God Justice mean, but then it takes you years to realize beats up a bully for you. Then you realize oh, my God being offered me was how she was loving me that whole. She really liked me. And then you guys you're about to hug her prom. You never like the last day of school. But then you're like, no just with Mike that and it just gets you look like we'll see each other on the flipside kid just wouldn't like that. And then like after college when you guys reconnect 'cause you actually end up living in the same city. You guys like watch football on Sundays you then she's all like mice. She's like. Yeah. What became of? Jess, you know, just just used to be the Batasuna in school. And now, she's like Groner hair out. And she's like, I don't know like making jam with her friends. Yes, she's like fun. But then she says annoying things like I'm basically just like one of the guys like no gesture not one of the guys like, you're cool. But you're not one of the guys. Girl. But then she also talks that you. She's like, oh, you know, what you need to do if you're making if you're making like, Texas, caviar. Yeah. These are the sort of beans to use. Jess, I'm like, just let me make Texas caviar the way I want to. You know, she's like a little bit of a talker at her you love her. But she's like you can't bring around all your friends because she's so brash that your phrase she's going to say something that's like to real. And then like your friends about what's up with your friend. Jess, I'm like, she's just like that. And then all of a sudden you can't like go to brunch with both of them. But then you finally do bring her around all your friends. Oh, my God that girls awesome. Yeah. And you're like we. And you're like we. I was so anxious and I'll love her. And then I started to think like, wow. Like why without me hanging just without me. And then it's like like who can I bring just around like, I don't even know. I don't understand my own judgement anymore. Well, the great voice family is not coming from a good place skate. They've been down, but they also rebelled and they just live in the shittiest part of town. It's like raining all the time. It's like crappy the castle hasn't been kept up. It's just like crowded now. So every time they go, and they have like the boat people the people of the ocean. I'm like, that's musty. I actually feel like theoretically, I would actually really like I I like the vote people. But what I don't like is then there's this other brother. But this guy you're on it is that you're on or Iran. I don't know. But there's this other great joy who comes in like I think at the end of like the second to last season. He just comes out of nowhere. He kills the dad out of nowhere on a bridge. We're like a, okay. This is my now. The character to just like do this and that and then he is just like annoying. And now we just like he comes he's like appealing to serve see fine. And then it seems like things are finally going the way they're supposed to go. And then his frigging regatta goes and intercepts everything. And there's a big firefight in the sea. I'm just like, you know, what your new stop doing this? You're new new your place. Go hang out in the iron aisles. Wherever the salty whatever they say in your like black leather and be like watched the matrix over there. And then like, it's my second matrix reference of that. But do that like don't get in the way, we're all trying to do things I've been plotting for years, and you're just coming out of nowhere and ruining it like that's not cool matrix in the farmer's market. Okay. So the stark som- scrolling down a little bit. Okay. What do we think of a hound? I like the hound. But sometimes I'm like a little annoyed by him. Like, sometimes I'm like, okay. We get it. You're moody actually know what I actually hate the hound now. I don't tell you why. Because I was always like mix I liked how he looked out for area. You know, you know, I always like that like the the big with a heart of gold. But then in the last season when the whole group is on this little island in the middle of lake frozen lake and all these skeletons are staring at them just like waiting and the hound, of course, because he's bored Heathrow's like a rock, and then like the rock lands on the on the lake and then it's like, oh, guess what the lake is frozen. So all the skeletons over now all the skeletons are coming over making craziness. It's like, oh just want to see another crazy like undid fight. Like fuck the hound. He ruined it for everyone. I just think he needs bangs. I mean, that's my. Well, he did clean himself up for a second. There. Remember he joined that little Colt that beautiful little colts. Yeah. This lovely Colt run by Ian McShane, and he cleaned himself up. He was looking pretty good. He was actually looking like he was like about open up like a coffee shop, and then he goes off to gather some sticks and comes back and everyone's dead because of the stupid that other that other group what they called again the. Remember that though I hate colts. Okay. And I really love that actor in Maxine, and I watched dead would. And I watched American gods. Like, I love him. But sometimes don't, you know, sometimes I don't need you on this. It's it's out of place for him to be on game of thrones. And I think because I didn't really know who anybody else was since everybody is characters on game of thrones. And so I know him from so many other things I'm like, listen deadwood had a terrible ending. So why don't you go fix that Colt person? Well, also came in like, all easy, breezy. He was like in like a white like Henley shirt or something. Like Lynn looks like a beach wedding and Mexico, and he's like, yeah. You know, like life is good. We're just going to build a Bilton houses and just be one with the earth or whatever. And I was like this is weird. This is like, Ian, McShane acting all new agey. Yeah. I didn't like that. But yeah, the hound. I'd like the hound for the most part. What do you think about little finger Bayless? Little fingers interesting because there were times, and I was like I super supported little finger. But then there were times like fuck this guy. And he was the one who married Sansa off to Ramseys. He betrayed everybody every single season. And now seeing all fit together like this. I'm like L O L Queen love the scenes with him in various because they you know, they have this like drag race wave talking with each other. Like, you the master of the nothing. Well, Hello master Pena's. It's like, ooh. So I really love their relationship and little fingers off screwing everybody over like literally bringing down empires every season. Yeah. I I wasn't sure if I loved him for being manipulatives style, or if I just down to be annoying and then in the last season, I just started to be like, okay. He's annoying because like after years and years Sawa and aria are finally back together. And now he's going to breed discord they're gonna hate each other. I was like no we were so long to get them together. But then it turns out that they were like one step ahead of them ahead of him and joined forces and surprise surprise execution of him. So I was happy. I was doing happy deserved a better execution. Mike. I wish it was just more than oh sister. Fi girl that he comes down from right? Yeah. It was sort of like that was the other thing about that story line is I feel like there were all these major things happening across the land. And then we have to stop and be like, oh your sister. Says this about your your sister says that we really have to sit here and listen to this. I wasn't so into that. And I miss him. I hope he's still alive. I mean, I guess. Throw was slip a lot of things come back to life. Thanks, the light walkers. Fuck and that's the other thing the held because that whole situation the frigging dragon killed now the white walkers have a dragon. Thanks hound. Thanks. Thanks. A lot. So house Tyrell. Loris loris. We always talked about Laura's a little bit it really to me. I mean, even though there's Marjorie Terrell. She was you know, whatever she she wasn't like as fun as, sir. See she wasn't as like Batty as as like, some others that would have liked for me. It's really all about Oland Terrell played by Diana Rigg. She was great. She was gloves. And I was so sad. It was me. Yeah. She did die. Pretty well. She was like fuck you like guess what I'm pretending to have a civilized drink with you right now. Because I know you're poisoning me. But guess what before I die? I fucking killed your son. Yes, loved her martyring was from that Showtime show about Henry the eighth. We're Henry is hot. I'm like, okay. Goes. Okay. And so seeing her again kind of doing the same thing. I was like already know what happens to her. And yet it happening d'oeuvre. I was surprised she lasted so long. She even made it to Queen. I was in fact, I was actually really happy that she became the Queen. And I was like this is all she wanted. She did it. She even married. A gay guy knew he was gay. And it was like cool that you know, like, you know, like, she's she's like my marijuana. Fuck you, just, you know, come in me. So I can have a baby. Like, what's the problem? She's like I'm being very logical about this. So let's just do it trying to help. Okay. She's like listen afterwards. We can watch soap hungry. Time. They would have been a great modern family, you know, between the three of them. I loved I loved them as their little throttle. But I thought so too. I thought they'd be cute. And then they'd getting always be in the middle. It's like Marjorie. What did you tell him? Also, why have we only seen a shadow monster? Once like, wouldn't you think that like Endre be sending out that shadow baby? Like so many times like if I could give birth to shadow, assassins. I'd be like, okay. One two three four like just be like one after the other and just be done with all this. I can't wait to find out what his ass is up to you that shadow person because he's cer- caused a lot of crap and all real dark magic. So who is it? Is it a real person by coming in in sallow form? I mean, what's going on who were the guest. Yeah. The mortels the mortels I feel like we didn't see a lot of the mortels. And there was that. Basically for me, the mortels are all about there were two big Martell 's there was that one guy over in who. I found to be oddly hot. And he was so good. And he was going to kill the mountain. He had a dual. And he was all he's doing all this fancy sword, and jumping and all this stuff. He finally gets the guy down he's going to kill him and just finishing them off. Which is what we knew he should been doing. He'd starts like totting him mountain comes alive and crushes the guy's skull a watermelon. That was grazie. It was crazy, and it was really upsetting to me because it was graphic. But because it's like, of course, could just kill them. It was it was really gross and his sister Larrea. Yeah. Greater. Yeah. Alario another one that's great in this. But then I see your another things. I'm like, please stop. She's in this this British cop. So where she's the best. She's like, you know, just just stop go back to alario. Okay. She had like a very specific brand of crazy. She kept poisoning people by Cussing them because she had this thing. And I love how deranged she was. And I just feel like we deserve to have more of her. Yeah. But alas you mess with the mountain look with while she well, she the real issue is that she put she poisoned. Certainty and Jamie's daughter, and so so then when I was able to finally capture her then I was like fuck you. I'm putting you in the dungeon. And now I'm going to kill your daughter. The way that you that you killed mine, which is very Serfaty. Which is why she's my co way. Yeah. Yeah. True. Truly truly. I mean, I've never cheered for a child killing foresee. I was like you go girl. I just wanna mention all of this to feel like such a sick person. I know what the six show. I also wanna mention briefly Bram Bram what the guy who is like he's like a mercenary, and he was like he's like he's taught Jamie how to fight again and everything and he was the one who got locked up with at the house Martell. He got locked up, and then they poison to him, and they give him the annatto and all that. I like that guy. I'm trying to remember I'm scrolling through got to get Ron Braun Bram and his Braun find or. Yeah, you'll see you'll see him. Brought. Oh braun. Yeah. I love that guy. The guy the orphan guy who saved aria, but we're. So he was sort of like looked up to aria. And then he was like. Remember him dying so fast? He didn't die. He came to live. The he was going to die. They so that's why daughters and I'm dumb. Sometimes remember the Mortell daughter kissed him. And then he's hard to die. And then the game the antidote. It's set up. The fact that they had this ability to poison people. There was one end all yada, yada. You know, no way Brahms not the Brown isn't the the orphan saver. He's the one who helps Tyrian right? Yeah. Who's the orphaned savor the orphans saver looks. Like bronze everybody, I know people are hitting those stewing grow right now. Sorry people but. The who savor the one who saves aria when she's about to get killed, and he puts her in with all the orphans and the criminals, and then they're coming to look for Ganthier, gentry, gentry. And he helps hide him and the price all the soldiers by himself, and it takes a bunch of them to kill him. He was great. Yeah. Yeah. That he I thought that he stayed alive forever because he looks like Braun love Braun. Yup. Bronze a good guy. Yeah. Solid. He's good people. I like Brondby also gonna die. And I think he's gonna have a very I think you'll have an emotional death. That will be like the end of the episode fade to black. Yeah. Oh, God bless him. Love that guy. Okay. Who else? Okay. So now, we're getting sort of into the dregs about the drugs. But these are more the we got the house fray Walter fray, you know, he was that crazy old dude. He I like I like to killed him. We talked about the phrase we talked about the Boltons Ramsey, right? There's only as I'm so glad that killed this. Awesome. Bitch. Oh my God. She was make that talk about acting enough already. Okay. She lasted a lot longer on this show than ever. I was so glad I cheered. When they did her in, you know, house, Charlie. So there Sam I think we all love Sam. I'm also surprised at Sam has lasted so long Sam and Gilly. Gillies like, I can't tell if I love Gilly, or if she sort of annoys me, you know, some. She so annoying. She's all bitchy. It's like do you got taken off a farm or whatever like a baby farm. I did think it was weird when what's his face jor, George? We didn't talk about him at all Georgia, Georgia. I was. His name. You know, what I'm talking about Georgia Georgia joke. Orca Gorgon talk Giora Mont when he got like the gray skies. And then he went to the citadel or the wherever it was called. And then SAM's like I read him in a book that I found that was locked up that you could do this to fix it. And they're like, no, Jim Broadbent like don't you day on the grandma? And then then Sam like does something and the next morning jor. Like, I'm fine. I'm healed. We. Like we. That's a little too easy. Yeah. I like Sam. But you know, it's like there's so many whys every parent mean in here, you know, the only ones who aren't me get killed and everybody else's basically like modern day like everyone's really evil because their parents were mean to them, you know, the day. That's what it always boils down to on game of thrones. And has his no exceptions like, oh, your dad's mean getting line ready? Okay. Yeah. There's also like everyone from the night's watch. I really didn't care about. I'm not gonna lie like all those guys like every. Because they're also. But I think we're supposed to we're supposed to like them like they're a band of runners. I'm like every time they got killed. Honestly, it's fine. It's fine. I don't care, you know, walls or anyone else. You wanna talk to her? Should we wrap it up? Why don't we wrap it up with some predictions K cause we love to do some predictions? So who do you think is going to win the game of? I mean, I think John snow will. I think that I think I think they'll be like an epoch sacrifice that Johnson. I think I think I think denarius is going to have like a tragic death. You know? So that way everyone else could live on one of those things very religious. You know, I think John snow is going to win. And I think that I think that sir see is gonna lose. But she's going to do something valiant to save the world from the white walkers. Like, she's like be like, okay. My children are dead that which is prophecy from when I was a kid. It's gonna come true. I know I'm never going to have this thrown. But I will always be remembered for my sacrifices or something like that. And she'll do something like she will die. So that way humans can live. That's interesting those I think they'll be to sacrificial deaths. I think that everybody's okay. This is out of you know, an out there one. But I think that the white walkers really the Goodwin's because look at all the humanity that we've seen on the. Show. Everyone people are horrible. All they do is kill each other. And rape each other and Bernie other like, it's horrible humanity. If reminds you how bad humans are, and I'll bet the white walkers going to turn out to be nice. You know, like, maybe he just looks funny. Maybe a nice. If we have to choose somebody living, I think it's going to be one of the kids. It's going to be someone really young like it'll be brand or. Someone they haven't made as much attention to will be a soccer that they actually win. Like, we spent all kind of like the show what the show does. Right. It makes you think, oh, it's about all this drama of who's going to get the throne and who's going to get this when it's really ending up to just be the Walking Dead at the end. It doesn't really matter who survived you know, the beheadings because you're gonna get killed by a damn white Walker. Anyway, you know, what I bet deniro's is going to have a child with John snow because they had sex 'cause the other like, oh, she can't have kids and the only one who said she can't have kids was crazy Mercedes Ruehl witch. And she was like, oh, I saw that child. It was scaling disgusting and can't have babies and they're like, okay, cool. So I bet like she can totally babies and she's going to have on their nephew. And that's going to be the true next gen next-gen leader is going to be this child who has both like the amazing of Jon snow and the determination Darris. And that one's gonna lead us along the way. Although actually, I would love it if it was barris embarrass wound up on the throne. I've told. We support that. Well, time will tell my friends we've got on six episodes of season something like that probably six or seven zero and they're gonna be super long like movie movie length. So we will be back to recap all of those everybody thinks for listening to our first ever episode. Yeah. So. The next time. I'm talking to you guys. I will have probably watched this whole damn thing all over again. So I know we Ronnie I just realized something before we sign up when you said, it's probably going to be one of the kids that we're not paying attention to are you saying it could possibly be Robin. The. The son of Lisa who was suckling his mom's to eat until he was fourteen hit doesn't. The left. Well, he's not going to be the king. I'm sorry. He's just hitting the corner and Ed, visions, maybe. Never. All right, everybody will thanks so much. We'll see next time. Everyone.
Mason and Ireland HOUR THREE
"Hi. And here we go. It's time for fast-track branch. By Rex Rex dedicated elbing home or save using game. Changing technology a full-service experience. No middleman, Rex cutting agent commissions by seventy percent to get started and unlock your savings. Visit sell with wrecks dot com. I'd he we go last game of the year the final game John one side of the coin trying to think does this mean anything for Portland it could. But it would only they they need to win. There's there if the rockets lost right tonight by the time Portland takes the court. They could move up to the three. So on one side of the coin the Portland trailblazers on the other side of the coin our Los Angeles, Lakers, call it. They've won six out of nine man. You gotta ride with Caruso, the great Caruso. Gimme the Lakers. It's a Lakers Selangor's Caruso. Right back right Mace. I think most of us have experienced getting on a plane. Fine. Only to discover there is no more overhead bin space. Yep. Deal aviation, which is a company that makes planes has proposed technology to allow passengers to book specific overhead bin space in advance anywhere on a plane, small screens at the base of the overhead bin can show the seat numbers of passengers who had reserved that bin space deal is confident that if passengers on low cost airlines, especially. Are willing to pay extra to take their capping bags on board? They may also be willing to pay an additional fee to ensure their bag will have its own reserve space directly of of their seat. Now, I always check bags because I don't want to lug him all over the airport. But most people don't people carry on. I've checked bag in a really long time. I was gonna say I assume you do would you be willing to pay for overhead bin space? I I guess if I absolutely had to, but you know, he's talking to the girls that Illy this morning, and they were showing me their flights. And it was like a one hundred dollars for the first bag two hundred dollars for the second back. It is such a frigging racket. Now, the airlines are out of control right now. This is one went they do though is they they lower the prices of the ticket to get you to buy the ticket. And then they try and get it back on the bags. Here's what you should do. Like, for example, when's your next big trip? Hawaii. A couple of weeks. Okay. Send your bags in advance. I carry on. Right. But I mean, if you can send a bag for I mean, like there's a company called ship sticks because golf clubs are expensive race ended. And you just pay them in there, your golf club show up where you are. But you can do that with bags like. And if you know, you're like, you know, when you're going, right? Yeah. Sure. It send it now. You'd Senate like UPS fourth glass won't cost you anything your bag OB though, Joe and you get their new paid Zere. You just paid the price ascendant it, right? That's what people will outsmart these airlines that are trying to do this. But I think some people like you sound like you like to carry on. And I do sister. I think you would pay for in-space. I probably regretfully would. So I think that's the next thing. That's the next way. Can I'm as point out. This is why we don't want monopolies. You know, there are essentially three airlines. Right. And they've got us by the you know, they've got and they can do anything. They want the world was a better place when there were seven airlines. She don't want three airlines because they will put the screws to you fast track. Right time for Steve Mason baseball, trivia, campway. All right. So Greg does this replace Jayson? Stark Chris Ball trivia. Okay. Replace jason. I so Greg you can chip in here. Jay, you can chip in among active players. Mike trout has the fourth best career batting average of anybody with a thousand or more at bats at three o seven. Who are the top three? Mike is. Number four who are the top three active players in terms of career batting average Miguel Cabrera has to be one of them who a bit. He's played a long time. We always in the three hundred but it's probably somebody like all too vague. Who hasn't or Mookie Betts who hasn't plenty of at bats? Right. A thousand at bats a lot of at bats. No, two years. Somebody's played at least two years. Do you have five hundred plate appearances year? Five hundred is a bats. So three years. Maybe. Yeah. Anybody anybody that's been around three years to say will be up there. Yeah. We'll try to TV. I'll to base number two three fifteen. You think is dispatched tem enough bets has been around yet. He's been he's he has enough. But I don't know if he said that many years like. Have out who else is in like, I will say Greg's first instinct was very good one. Yeah. Really cabrera. Yeah. Number one, three sixteen thirty hitter forever. Got Cabrera three sixteen I'll altuve at three fifteen three strikes. You're out third. Best active career batting average. Okay. So active. So I can't be like each euro because he's not active. He's retired. All right. So I'm just thinking around the deceit your at bats. He probably presently. No K missed most of last year who I'm trying to think of who would be a dodger unless it's like, no Bellenger didn't have no Yankees. No nationals. No Red Sox. It is the National League. I will give you that. Additional annual Murphy might be one of those guys. That's still active though. He's acting is with the Rockies, right? That's right. Daniel murphy. What about nobody else at the cubs? Right. Nobody that cubs is like a giant batting average. This guy's an all star virtually every year. I'll give you another hint. He's a first baseman. That's not Rizzo. Oh, wait. You said national exams all Goldschmidt for average. Yeah. He's always tried your. I don't think he's average. He gets a lot of home runs. Freddie freeman. Freddy Freeman not Joey Votto. Oh, three ten average joy bottle is a machine should've known. If you talk to other major league baseball hitters. They all study, Joey Votto swim check. Okay. Millennials who are defined as people born between one thousand nine hundred eighty one in nineteen ninety six America's largest generation. Of course, Mason who thinks he's millennium. I am millennium are being accused. Greg your millennial right by technically. Okay. You people are being accused of killing off some popular trends by the website, money talks news. So I have a full list of things that I'm going to run by you, two guys. And you tell me are millennials going to ruin these things for future generations, right number one starter homes millennials either rent or live with their parents until they have enough money to buy a big house. Greg. Do you own or have you ever owned a starter home? No. I don't make anywhere near enough money to on a whole that's part of the argument. Yeah. So that we I think I mean, I'm on the very very far end of the spectrum with millennials. But yes, I mean, a lot of people are going into tiny home, Mason, you had you and I both had starter homes. Do you think we've seen the end of starter homes? I think we have student or millennials have way too much college debt. So okay. I think starter homes over number two serial millennials say cereal was an inconvenient breakfast choice because we have to clean up after eating Greg. Do you eat now? No, I don't talk about Riley your daughter. I bet you do you ever eat cereal. I mean, I haven't in a while. But I love cereal I used to live serious too. But I haven't had any years may cereal cereals, great. Haven't had it in a hundred years. Yeah. Is really? All right, Syria. Grey hairs millennials do have kids. Now does young Jackie surreal. No, no, no, no, Riley and paisley don't either. They don't either. Well, the generation Z skilling. Okay, greg. Here's one you can identify with cable TV it's gone millennials are all like, Greg. And they all steal stuff off the internet Mace are- going to see the end of cable TV because of people like Bergman. We absolutely are going to see the end of cable TV we're watching a Titanic shift in the way people consume entertainment. I think people watching stuff on their phones. Craig is another one casual dining chains. This website says you won't go to applebees TGI Fridays or places like that true or untrue. I mean, not those are chains. So no, I don't go to those. But also, dining eateries Chili's. Yeah. Well, I mean, not though the Julian's reign pancake factory all the time. And that's been have you been the Chili's or islands or olive garden. Mason. You think we'll see the end of casual dining chains. Yeah. I think millennials tend to eat something that is not chain in something that is local to their neighborhood. And plus I mean, I don't think they're not olive garden's. Not good Italian food. Lisa airland refuses to eat there and Red Lobster is not good seafood. I disagree. Never though. Fantastic islands. I could not live without all right? Gym. Memberships millennials prefer to find other ways to work out without spending the money, Greg true or false one hundred percent true. You can go outside and do all the things that you do in in Mesa. We're gonna see the end of gym membership. I mean, I'm an idiot. Right. So I I belong to like four. Jason I spend forty five minutes on an elliptical every day. I'm looking outside where it's sunny. It really doesn't make any sense. All right, motorcycles, Gregory millennials with motorcycles. They millennials don't like them. And they're not crazy about cars either. But motorcycles are definitely out doesn't George Brioni Sonal motorcycle has he. Yeah. He does. Yeah. He owns a motorcycle. So there's one. All right. So there's one. Yeah. I don't know anybody who owns a motorcycle. The you. I've always and I understand the the idea of it. And I know it's exhilarating and all that stuff. You're listening to Caspian Los Angeles. But there's a reason why some people refer to them as donor cycles. All right, three more beer, Greg. It says millennials in the next generation prefer pot over beer an alcohol. That's silly. That's apps. I mean, they do probably prefer pop, but no it. Mason was semi out of beer lesson. I don't drink beer but drink liquor, and by the way, millennials I don't know if this was in your thing Ida fasttrack question a couple of weeks ago, millennials love, tequila, and whiskey and werman yet. They don't look here, but they love hard liquor. Okay. Two more banks millennials never physically go into a Bank. They only use the ATM or Bank online, Greg. When's the last time you said foot in a Bank? Have you done it in in twenty nine thousand nine hundred. No, I don't I know I do everything online. I may still where we still have a physical Bank in ten years in a Bank in ten years. I think they're useless in the last one. This is something I do a lot. But it says millennials are going to kill this trend ironing millennials wear casual clothes, so they never iron anything, Greg. When is the last time, you ironed something sad to say, but it's trolley been five six years. I know how to iron though, I'd actually, of course. But they're saying that these your generation is going to kill all these things. Maze was less irons. Last time. I something was never never ironed a thing in my entire lo every game. I know tonight's game eighty two right? Every road game. So all we have we play the clippers twice. So all thirty nine other road games. I assured the day of the game because I pack it in my bag, and I right whip it out today. I can do it in three minutes and it's done in furnace. I don't think my mom owns an iron. She has. I don't think she does. Text. We'll texter own an iron. She absolutely owns that. She probably never uses it. It's probably in a closet, but there's no way she does. I bet we own irons, by the way. Is it? True. That your mom also knew who Jay Z was. Yes. So that that game we played a week ago where we called my mom, and she not only new Jay z. But knew that he was married to beyond say and your mom did too. We we both thought our moms would have no idea JC. Yup. No, my mom was all over that. All right Williams. See Roden did a story for the undefeated about the lack of African American basketball coaches Seville road, and is a very very good African American sports, right? We used to be on the sports reporters. And I think he was wrote for the New York Times for free as peon, I think of the sixty five power five schools that are only seven black coaches. It's the same in women's college basketball. Only seven African American coaches, there are only ten black athletic directors of sixty five power conference schools. How can college athletics successfully address this issue? Well, they could put in Rooney roll like they do in the NFL. But I'm not sure that the Rooney rule is really working it. It's going to take leadership. By the chancellor's, the people that hire the ethic chancellors in the president light. To to say, this is a problem. I read somebody say to me, I you know, I've been having a lot of conversations about what's going to happen at the Lakers. If Luke Walton gets fired. Yup. And I had somebody say to me. That. The the specific answer was I don't know. But I bet you it'll be a black head coach. And I thought I just for for symbolism. And he said, no, I just think that that's you know, we have our team has a very very prominent black superstar and who's active in social issues, racial Justice issues, and it would be an opportunity to lead in this area that you're talking about to lead, by example, now the Lakers have had black coaches before Mike Brown. Byron Scott, you know, it it wouldn't be a first time. But there are people that that agree with the premise of your question that this is an issue, and you have to proactively address it, and that would be my answer to you. You have to proactively admit there's an issue, right? You have to say what Rhoden wrote you have to say, you know, what there's no black head coaches in my conference, or we my particular school has never had a black head coach. I think I'm going to work that into the equation. I think if you if you do if you first of all admit, there's a. Problem then you can address it. So that's how I would answer your question. Yeah. Only six percent of universities have black presidents. It's I there. There's got to be a way to address this in a meaningful way. College basketball, a sport that has been dominated by African Americans for instill is thirty years, and it's still how is it that only seven out of sixty five are African America. Who was it that we had on tugging this week? The Notre Dame women's coach Muffin McGraw. She says you hire people who look like he's one hundred percents. So until somebody says, I'm specifically I'm not going to hire. Somebody who looks like me that problem will can right. All right. More fasttrack in two minutes. Mason an Ireland ESPN LA rolling on with fasttrack. Ireland's to you lost chat by will Ferrell and Adam McKay who have been comedy partners for over a decade since they met on Saturday Night Live or ending their partner Sheila they've made a ton of stuff together. Let's say you are putting something in a time capsule that won't be open for a hundred years, and you wanna put the best funniest thing. These guys came up with, but you can only pick one I'll give you a list of five things he did together you can pick one of these putting the capsule or you can go off the board. But these are probably their five most commercially successful projects. Okay. Number one anchorman. The legend of Ron burgundy number two the ballad of Ricky, Bobby. Aw. Number three stepbrothers. Okay. Number four, all twenty episodes of I'm sorry. They produce Andrea savages TV show and number five the entire funny or die website. They came up with the whole concept for funny or die CNN anchorman. The Balata Ricky Bobby stepbrothers all twenty episodes of I'm sorry, the entire funny or die website, Greg. If you had to put one of those things in a time capsule, but you can only pick one what are you going with? I've spent hours and hours watching funnier diva's. Absolutely. It's funnier or die. Yeah. I the Brits of it makes it makes you pick that. I mean that the that thing that I laugh at that. I can't stop laughing at or Mike Tyson and Wayne Brady redo Bobby Brown's every little settle good is. Yes from funnier die. They have a whole, by the way. Brock meyer. Hank a serious character started as a funny or die ten minute. Skit didn't will Ferrell do his very his first things was. Like talking to his landlord, and it was a little baby. Your dial is is very very good. But but point Mace the ballad of Ricky, Bobby, I'm gonna go you like a spot. Spiderman. Mountain dew. And remember as what time terrible move. What are you talking about? With you Ricky Bobby terrible movie. Oh, I seriously think you we we might have you have you tested for lack of funny bone. You've now you don't think I'm sorry. It's funny. You finally watch five minutes if I'm sorry. Because. Well, it dig and nights is funny eighty you're fired. You're mace. What are you putting in the time? Counting put anchorman. Come on. Yeah. Thank her, man. Is is still makes me laugh to this day can watch it anytime. I'm kind of a big deal. Yeah. I'm trapped in a glass boss motion sex panther, by the way, they've done. Also, they did vice they did the big short. Right. They've all those Ryan up to this is like one of the reasons why they're dissolving their partnership that was more atom will didn't have anything to do with those Adam has turned towards the serious got it. So it seems like it's ending amicably. Like, they're they're saying, hey, we've just we've been together for thirteen years. We're going to end it, by the way drunk history. That's another one drunk history is fantastic. Great show. I love that show. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Because they've yeah. If you've ever go on the funnier die website and you'll be there for a while fast track. Oh, it's to me. It is kind of show biz question. It's not been five years since Matthew mcconaughey won the best actor Oscar for Dallas buyers club since then he's made a series of flops, including white boy, Rick serenity, the dark tower gold Free State of Jones sea of trees, which only opened in two theaters and two weeks ago beach bums, which was a wide release only managed one point six million dollars after he won the Oscar people talked about the McConnell since that he had it was it was the renaissance at at our. At our at our that's clearly over. But is it over all together for Matthew mcconaughey now, somebody give somebody comes up with the, you know, I always thinking about Bryan, Cranston. Bryan, Cranston was a very successful actor he played Tim watt. Leon seinfeld? He had a very good run. Right. Think he he was nominated for an EMMY for playing the dad on outcome in the middle. And then so he was know working, and then he got breaking bad, which Vince Gilligan will admit they didn't think would necessarily lasts for more than one season. But there was such a wide range. He started as like this kind of. Golly. Gee whiz chemistry teacher. And then when he needed money, he broke bad and started cooking meth, right? And by the end of it. He is Heisenberg and everybody saw. Oh by God. He's got a gear in that. We didn't know he had right? And now like you go see him in network like you and I did. And you're you're just blown away by the guy. So McConnell could get. A Cranston like role later in life that could just flip the switch. Here's your thing. The thing about Brian is he makes fantastic choices like from breaking bad. He could have done a number of things. Right. Yeah. Instead, he went to Broadway won the Tony for LBJ. Then he won the nominated for the Oscar for Trumbull now back on Broadway for network. I think in winning other Tony for network. I still don't know how he does. All right. So they do know shows on Monday, but he does to Saturday and so on Sunday. So he does seven a week seventy eight. Yeah. And he somehow gets his body to completely break down seven times a week. He's in a full sweats. Not coming out of his nose mad as hell not gonna take it anymore. It is stunning to see in person. I I don't know how anybody can beat him. No, it's fantastic. I'll check by the way, those car ads for Lincoln have really turned him into a punchline to a joke to I can't. I can't stand those ads. I would never drive a link. And because of Matthew, mcconaughey. All right time. I get a game to finish Greg. You can play. Jay, you can play Mace urine time to play who has more as always these are all close. All right, Greg. We'll start with you who has more career wins Clayton Kershaw or max Scherzer. Shears? It's very close. Very close. Matter of fact, I'll even tell you there's a seven win difference between the two of them because of Clayton's injuries. I'm gonna go sherzer. Okay. Jay. Yeah. Me too. Sherzer mace. I'm going to go Kirsch. It is max Scherzer one hundred sixty wins Clayton Kershaw one fifty three. All right, number two, j who has more Grammys you U2. or Bruce Springsteen they each have more than twenty. Wow. You to Mace. I am going to go you to Greg. Yeah. You too. You too has twenty two Bruce Springsteen has twenty so Greg and Jay or both to for to all right Mace who has more career passing yards. Matt Ryan or Aaron Rodgers again. It's very close. That's because Greece I'll go Matt Ryan. Okay, greg. I'm going to say Rogers longevity. Well, okay, j yeah. Rogers Mason has tied it it is Matt Ryan has forty six point seven thousand Aaron Rodgers forty two point nine thousand. So both very close. All right. Gregg, which one has more calories in in and out double double with onions or the grilled stuff. Burrito at Taco Bell. I hate that. You put this in here. Because now I making me think that it's in and out, and I don't want it to be in and out. But I'm going to say in and out. Okay. Jay, what has more calories in in and out double double with onions or the grilled stuff? Burrito at Taco Bell. I'll take the Taco Bell style. All right Mace. I will also go Taco Bell, the in-and-out double double with onions has six hundred seventy calories. The grilled stuff. Burrito. Talk about eight hundred good. I'm actually happy. I got that's a reasonable number for that that in and out burger six hundred seventy you can live with that. All right. Do more the score is Greg to j three Steve three all right to left who went. I that time. Greg did. Right. All right. Jay, which country has more. Olympic medals now, we're combining winter and summer, okay? Which country has more Olympic medals, Canada or Japan, and I'm gonna tell you, right? And how these countries are separated by four medals, Canada or Japan Jay who has more Canada, Mace, Canada or Japan of winter sports. I'll go Canada. Great gonna go Japan. Canada has five hundred and one Japan. Four ninety seven answer is Canada. Greg. You're not dead yet. No J four Steve four Greg to oh. Which means would have have. Yeah. All right. Like, a less you go last. I'll go in reverse order, then Mace which show has more career EMMY awards game of thrones. Or the sopranos? There are a lot of technical awards that game of thrones would've won. But I'm going to say sopranos. Okay. Jay. Game of thrones or Sapporo's both gigantic kits for HBO game of thrones. All right. Gregg, damn I can't win. So I'll just say game of thrones sopranos had Twenty-one Emmys game of thrones has thirty eight game of thrones is second all time. Do you guys know who has the most west wing? No. Swing had like twenty to thirty eight all family twenty five. This the the number one has fifty four Emmys. It's a show all of us watch. They wouldn't take a shot. Do sports count. All it's not a smart show, veep, veep has nineteen in counting. I about to give it away. Mason you and I've seen this show in person. Five Saturday Night Live has fifty four their number one. Number two, all time is game of thrones with thirty eight. So thrones is gonna finish probably with coaster fifty. But and L's just to keep going. Here's the weird thing about that game of thrones has not won an EMMY for any individual actor. No kidding. No actor has ever won. Maybe over maybe gets the iron throne, Scott the find the way I was going to give an individual award. I would give it to Dink Lynch. Yeah. Me too. You know, what I take it back Dink Lynch may of one dick Lynch may have one one. I remember him as Tyrian. He plays Tyrian. Yeah. But like Amelia Clark or who's the woman who play surf see Lena heady, Lena heady? Yeah. Yeah. On bid Harrington hundred kit Harrington, none of the other ones have one. All right. Finger little finger lion cheat, not a thing. All right. Coming up next. Are you done? Okay. I'll I'll hold this for. All. Right. Coming up next. We are going to pick the person who gets to play golf with me. When when I take on Travis Thursday in the ESPN LA, spring shootout we're playing Thursday because that's the first day of the masters. It is it is us against the morning show. I am playing with whoever we pick. I am counting on you. John betting. I need it because I'm betting twenty thousand dollars or did. I bet ten I can't remember I bid ten thousand dollars on myself. So I need to win. I like anybody who bets on themselves. So we'll pick the winner the guy. Everybody's been sending in swings. You know? So we I did you go with a good swing or a bad swing? I'll tell you next. All right basin in Ireland ESPN LA Ireland will be attempting to uphold Mason and Ireland pride. Yeah. On thursday. It's the twenty nineteen current premier spring shootout. Here's the deal. The only people that play golf regularly around here. We'll Michael does when his hips not messed up, but are Travis Rodgers in me and both Brown the same handicap. So the station is put together a head to head battle. It'll be Thursday at industry Hills Golf Club. And we had a contest for any listener that wanted to send us a picture of their swing and they just had to say team Travis our team ounce Travis and I are going to play match against each other. But we're also gonna play team match one guys with me. Another guys with Travis Travis picked his guy the thing. Right. Chris. So that that's already been announced and now after hundreds of entries, and did you pick a guy with a great swing or? Just a swing. No. But I think I picked someone that you will appreciate why picked Boca. He doesn't have a bad swing. Okay. Matter of fact, I think he has a better swing than me. Which is not saying you've got a goofy swing everybody. But this guy this guy is not he somehow found a way this guy to put one of those shot trackers on his video while could see where his ball went. Oh, that's cool. But that's not the reason I picked him here. It is without further ado. Just take the call. Did you guys not come in? And like, well, yeah, we had a whole thing set up. And then you said that you already picked the winner. This was supposed to be the sounder says here we're going to pick the winner now. But here Larson, congratulations J J Larsen wins and J that was so smooth. I love the way that when they're still not sure why we didn't play but the J there. Yeah. I'm here guys. Okay. So J the reason I picked J. Yup. Mace is that Jay's other job? Is that he's a comedian? Oh, really? So Jay, how long have you been doing that? What do you mean? Other job. What's what the, you know? Your main job is golf pro man you have to carry this team. I hope though, I mean, what's your handicap? A seven five right now. So you're better than me. I'm a tent so we as long as we be Travis and this other guy. I, you know, I'm happy. Hey, you're a big time comedian, man. But Jay when I saw that I have great respect for anybody. Who has the guts to do what you do Mason. And I've talked about it before when I was working in Texas. I I was friends with a whole bunch of stand up comedians and a nail how hard that is to do. And and those guys were all my buddies down there. And so how long have you been doing it? I've been doing about seventeen years, and you you did the Montreal comedy festival. You work at the comedy store. All the time you've done late night with Craig Ferguson manure you're a real legit comedian. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of things that go into it nowadays, you gotta right? You gotta act they end up Purdue. And then, you know, take take down lesser golf competitors. Well, Jay, the the reason why I need you there is if I absolutely crash and burn I need someone to like keep me from killing myself, which I figure you you will very easily do by just making fun of me if I blow this so. Yeah that from Boston. And that's how we show love is. We just make fun. Then you you'll have a good time. Yeah. You had a better year than the Lakers did. So I will be I will be ready to to take my lumps. But Jay, we're looking forward to we. Appreciate you participating in it. And we're gonna have a whole bunch of side bets going on. So bring your money. I hope we'll be importing and not exporting. But we're going to get team matches going Philip Palmer from channel seven's going to be my caddie. So he's a good, dude. One and Chris Morales is going to caddy for Travis. So it should be a lot of fun. We'll see it industry hills. I think we're teeing off at noon, so get there. Whatever time you want to get there to warm up and and win. We'll get it going at noon. That's great. I'm so wait. All right. Thanks. Hey. Jay, how did you get? How did you get that ball tracker on your video? Listen guys this somethings. I can talk to about. I just can't. That's that's obviously proprietary. The nap out there. I'll bring it. We'll do they apple but it up. Yes. And when might makes when I hit the ball into the water gel have a video of sailing, the nice, all right? Hey, jay. Thanks, man. Have a blast. You guys out the all right, man. See thursday. No. He's like a real big time. Right. This what I saw. Yeah. And you know, his his Twitter handle was like Jade Larson comedy. Yeah. J Larsen comedy. And I I went well, this is what I need if I blow it then he'll just make fun of me, the whole time at least make fun, and you know, maybe joking will distract from the fact that I asked today. Asked to strive Paris the show and the honor of the show, but I I'm feeling good. I'm feeling confident. What is travis's game? Life. Does anybody know, hey, hits it far rallies commodity near Morales is going to be the I only have Travis Travis is being honest with me and Chris Morales is in Chris is going to caddy for Travis, but Chris actually played golf with have you played with them of just seen him play play played with them. And did you ever play with John? No, no so crystals. Be seeing me for the first time on Thursday. A lot of people were alarmed by your golf swing Joan. Yeah. You'll you'll get to see it because we'll you say, you're a ten, and I know you're a member. Yeah. They were member. Yeah. Right. No. I'll I'll I mean unless Jesse his golf swing. See? Yeah. It's a it's compared to by people who know golf notch. Not me there. Do Jim furic swing. That says is handicapped he's legit. Really? What's your handicap ten point two? That's very good. When that guy says tear trend says he's around ten around. It said he doesn't officially have an athlete that. Yeah. So he's the app the app is free. I'll give it to him. When I see him. He's not entering who. Plays more John or Travis. I think because of the season Travis has played more recently. Yeah. This is the worst possible time for me to play because my handicap literally like graph during the basketball season goes up up up. And then when the season ends, I play a lot right? So after tonight, I can play a lot but the tournaments Thursday. The great thing about Travis. He's on the morning show host the morning days from six. I'm going to be just teed that up. I knew exactly where you. See I'm going to be a guest on the morning show tomorrow. Are you really? Yeah. Wrapping up the Lakers season. They got us pressing. That's that'd be fun. All right. Don't forget morning show every morning from six to ten Elsie and travel. I'm a big mornings everybody in this week last few times I've been on. It's been kind of a hodgepodge he returned for vacation from spring break. Travis return from spring per has his eye house keys is back to normal spread to me. Right. You kind of have the pink console. We call the key. I watch like that. Maybe stayed out all night drinking last home because because I that's very contagious. And now, it's like a science my house on Saturday to produce a podcast, and you had that that little Red Eye looking at me, I was doing the drops. And so we think it spread into a holding. Now, I can't hear out of one ear. It's a whole thing. He I watch really got me. Yeah. He's he's he has infected the entire station stationing. I've very. See will be on tomorrow morning at six AM on the morning. He's looking looking forward to it. Chris. Yeah. Great. That alarms me that Travis has been playing a lot of golf shown you okay? Disowned myself. We'll see. All right cone up next. Oh you. Yeah. I think I might be able to make you cry Craig honestly, did you cry when you heard this? I I did do. Yeah. We'll explain next. Okay. Stay tuned. So you can cry. I'm serious next. It's like highly emotional, it's real I need some emotion. Mason in Ireland ESPN LA. ESPN LA. I believe we've got purgatory coming up at some point. Yeah. All right. So tonight could be are is is you'll Wayne Wade's last game in Miami. And of course, he's been arguably the greatest heat player ever. I mean LeBron. Had that like comet of four years in Miami. But Wade with that with the exception of that kind of one year we went to Chicago and half in Cleveland has been kinda mayor of Miami. So he's been going around. Dwayne Wade has been going around, and he has a big room at his house. Yep. That he calls the jersey room. So everywhere he goes, he's been changing jerseys with the other teams best player, right, right and collecting jersey. So the heat said to him we have five more jerseys for your jersey room, come to the arena, and these five people will give them to you personally. That's all they told him. But he had no idea which five players were coming and who they were. So he was completely surprised. And what he finds out is that they weren't players at all they were. People. He's affected in Miami. Throughout his fifteen years there, including his mom, and here's how it all played out. Now, everybody's crying thing. And and so it was the surprise was that in Budweiser help sponsor all this and flew everybody and pretty good. There's rice was there was in in. Apparently, his mom has had all sorts of problems in life in he kind of brought her back from the brink. And then the there was a kid that was killed at parkland that he was a giant Wade Wade fan and Wade found out about it. He was buried in a way jersey Wade road is shoes it on a shoe. So he -ffected all these people, and they all gave they all. But it was regular people as opposed to an he didn't know superstars. Yeah. They're players. And and so he's. You know there. He didn't make the playoffs. So this is it for him. He has a night. But he's had an extraordinary career. Yeah. I think he goes down as the great is the third best shooting guard of all time behind Jordan Kobe. I think he's number three. That's it. Despite what Paul Pierce says. Yeah. Don't ask Paul Pierce about it. Well, pup he'll triple down Paul Pierce already double down. Maybe it'll travel down. I think that's part of his confident said he thinks he's it that attitude man is what is what made him great on the court. Yeah. Dwayne Wade far surpassed Paul Pierce, and a vintage Wade Wade at the height like we're doing we were stealing from the the rewards. And we were saying apex mountain. Yep. And it picks out in for Dwayne Wade was two thousand six when they won the title. He basically took Dallas down by yourself. And then Dallas got their title five years later when Dirk did it back to him. Yep. And jerk maybe done this week Dirk has an he's not formally. I mean, he if he's retiring it'll take them a while to get across the finish line. Does he does not have young legs? And he sure he runs like, Michael Thompson. And Michael has a bad hip, if you were one of those guys would you want would you want to do it let let's just assume that Dirk is going to retire. Would you want everybody to know? Or would you want what Dirk has done and sort of low play slow play the retirement? Now other words, she why vitrine were me, and you would be you would want a victory Garissa victory tour. I would want to do it like Dirk day. I would like six months before we're going to wrap this show. I would like to make the announcement. We're leaving on. Oh, wow. You June the thirty this as you missed three window three months from now couldn't be endure a Victor, you're wrote this is the victory tour now. Victory now, I would want the the tour like Kobe got a tour. Yeah. Shack got a tour Lovie announced his retirement midseason. So wait. Yeah jerk. Never did. Dirk never did. Now. The amazing rivers retired him. Yeah. The amazing. It'll be if dirt comes out tomorrow and says, you know, what I'm coming back next year. Right. Oh, yeah. Kevin and bean from Kevin and bean bean is leaving right? Yep. Leaving at the end of the announced it he's at the end of the year. He's leaving. He's on his victory tour way to go bean. You been in this town for twenty five years, you deserve a victory tour, and that that shows given birth to a lot of funny, then it's going to be the Kevin and allocation. Does alley know that yet. I'm announcing here. Alley. Yeah. We love alley. All right coming up next for years. Purgatory is George here. He is here. All right, good. So we got that coming up. Purgatory. We welcome now fresh from Seborga casino where he almost certainly lost money playing poker. Saddam as here. I did almost as much as you lost both lost on Saturday. This Saturday poker game. I'm anxious to ask the two of you about a ringer. There was a. Former professional poker player, like windy who acts that would be binding. Phil Mickelson to this thing. Travis and I are doing on Thursday. Yeah. This guy who is a professional poker player for three years. He told me named Andrew Han. Right. It was working psychologically at the table de entire time. He's like messing with us. I got wiped out. I I think in the sit and go, and then I said Mace just rebuy and then there was a pity by. So I was allowed to buy back in then I gave those ships to Andrew to we all George you stayed after Mason lifting get any better for you after left. No, Andrew cleaned. This all I got out while the get was you got out you got out to try and do a cash game. Was it a did it remained remain sitting? Okay. All right. So George Dwayne Wade's can play his last game in Miami. This this has been somebody you've covered his whole career best heat player ever. Oh, no question is not even debatable. Well, LeBron had now, but he was four years, right? Oh, come on. You can't compare that. That's like I mean who second. I would say the morning like if you think of longevity. Yeah. Alonzo's second. I mean. Yeah. And then I would say I mean, the guys that are retired are Alonzo the first two or Alonzo and Hardaway Tim Hardaway who was a borderline hall of Famer, then shack and Bausch, and it'll be weighed in the Brian eventually, do you believe as Hardaway believes that he's not in the hall of fame because of the stuff he said about gay people? I don't think that helped. Yeah. Yeah. I think he's look I mean that whole Basketball Hall of fame is so subjective. Because he's got numbers that are good enough to be the other two guys from Golden State. Mitch richmond. And Chris Mullin are Ian. Yeah. Yeah. He deserts. He's a better player than Mitch Richmond. What can I just point out here too? You're listening to Caspian Los Angeles. But can I point out here that Hardaway has since he made those ugly statements years ago, it was like two thousand four or five has three service to didn't interview. This Sean has done work with the LGBT community has. Yeah. And and to me that says lives a little bit like. When Michael Vick came out of prison for dogfighting. He went with the ASPCA and went to inner city neighborhoods where there was dogfighting. Yeah. And talked about the great dangers in the in the the ugliness of it. So that should count for something. Yeah. I I agree. I think tomorrow as a hall of Famer, I hope you have actually gets in. But you know, like you said I think he's a better player than Mitch Richmond. Who's in the hall of fame? So I think he deserves it. But this weight thing like did you see that Budweiser commercial? We just played out. I I was sitting there watching that is just like, you know, how your I did try. I mean, well when everybody's crying when the park Lynn the sister of the kid who got killed at parkland. Right. And gave her brother's jersey him. I mean, if you don't cry watching that and the best thing was he thought there were players coming. Jersey. And it was all these people whose lives he's affect right? It was a girl who his scholarship fund got through college. It was the young lady whose brother was killed on his mom was one of them. Right. Mom who right was in jail. And he she's now a pastor. He built her a church, and then the other one was to other people. There was a lady who lost her house in a fire. And he went and bought them all the new stuff they needed for the house and a kid who through his foundation was able to buy his first suit to go to a job interview. So yeah, it is really cool. And the I said, George. Third best shooting guard ever behind Jordan and Kobe. You agree agree. I think he's a top twenty five player of all time. And he is the third best shooting guard behind and peak weighed two thousand six that was his APEC, I would say peak. Wade is two thousand four five season really through like twelve because he was probably going to be had LeBron not thrown up all over himself in that twenty eleven series. Dwayne Wade was on his way to have a second finals MVP he was better than Dirk in that series. And in twenty eleven. Yeah. Yeah. If you look at the numbers they were like twenty eight points a game. Like he was killing Dallas in that series in in. So the tonight's going to be there's going to be a lot of finality around the league tonight. It's the it's the last time. Wade plays in Miami. It's probably Luke Walton last game coaching the Lakers. Well, I'm on like watch. Basically, I was making minimum came on earlier and said that he wouldn't rule out a press release going out tonight. Yeah, I believe that. Well, I I was told I got the call from Bristol like be ready to do TV in the morning. Oh, really? So they're they're expecting it. Yeah. They're well they're doing, but what happens if it's just a press release tonight. Well, it's more about the one that just you talking about is about what's next like this happened. What's next, then, you know, just doing different? And what do you think of the title thing? He makes a lot of sense. I just said this. And I I don't know if I told you guys this, but we had this conversation on on the show with with Windhorst, and and mcmenamin which was I want them to interview a million candidates, right? Because it's the one time you get to kind of peak into other people's lives. Yeah. Yeah. And just kind of see what they're doing. And clearly there is a sense that this front office are very much novices. Right. So you want to have the ability to peak into other franchises, and it's not considered tampering. Right. That Orem article today. Good job. I bid great great article so much gripe to the ethic man, some more journalists completely worth it. But the the one thing he said about being magic being an absentee exact we've heard that forever. I mean, Dan laboratory actually said that the first season and that was after the stuff he got into it with about magic when he got hired. But he he said that last year and people killed him. Then right there, the the issue isn't necessarily like I think they're going to get one of those be level guys. I mean, I think Jimmy Jimmy Butler guy or they're going to get boogie. Maybe I would be a level guy. Yeah. You you think I think it's possibly gets for real. I don't think it's I look, man. I think they've got better than a punchers. Chance. He's not their first choice or he's not a Lakers aren't hirees choice. Yeah. They're they're not anybody's first choice. Do you hear what Stephen asset about Kyrie? Yeah. Yesterday. I played it on the show. Did you give them meeting? Oh, this is actually what what Stephen said today. I little opinion is New York of that's my personal opinion. Obviously, you look at LeBron James who I believe will return to be in the greatest place in the world once he's back on a court healthy and with something to play for nevertheless when you look at Kyrie Irving, and the combination of Kyrie Irving and LeBron James, even though they wanna titled together, the the reality is when you consider some of the options that are available to them. They sh- kyri shouldn't be LA's number-one option if I'm LeBron. I'm thinking about somebody damn deal foot tall, and Kevin Durant or definitely somebody like linen. Or even Klay Thompson for that matter. But kyri Irv be the reason. Why think max New York would be a better situation than LA is because I believe that same guy that wanted his? His own that wanted to dictate his terms that did it want to have to capitulate to the allure the cash shea and the suffocating presence of a LeBron James. And I don't mean LeBron James personally, I just mean all LeBron James brings because of his greatness. I don't think kyri departed from Cleveland. And then all of a sudden is now willing to accept those conditions yet again because that's exactly what it would be. If he came to LA it would be about him in the Bronx year, but it's still a bronze country when Steven came on with me couple of weeks ago. I asked him point blank about Kyrie like give me percentages. And he said sixty percent New York forty percent Lakers at that time, really sixty forty New York Knicks to the Lakers. Wow. And nothing for Boston. Oh, he thinks. He's gone. Yeah. Wow. He seems he seems like the unhappiest guy in the world in Boston is just like every day church street. Church street on how this season ends too. I mean, Boston makes deep run maybe makes it to the finals. I change his mind. Number navy? I guess, but those guys look John I've done two games there. And I don't know what's in their minds, but I can read bad body language. And there are guys on that roster that he comes off like in a timeout situation when they've gone like an eight zero run, and they're guys who won't even high five him like won't even be near him. When he's hitting the the basket that goes that forces the other team to call timeout. I it's not pretty they're in some cases, and some of the people within the organization talk about how moody he can be whether that's getting on guys. Maybe in a way, he shouldn't or just completely isolating himself. Right. And you wonder I mean last year those guys carried themselves to the finals without kyri. I'm not sure they're not a better team without kyri. Well, they feel like, hey, man. We were game seven in the Eastern Conference finals LeBron on the ropes now without you. Yeah. So they kind of roll their eyes at him in a lot of ways. Yeah. All right, George. You got something else. I don't know. What what's what's the deal with ru is he out for a while? Who is going to be out for some stretch of time. Now the deal is he left the game in the second inning last night with a groin house right now. That's what's scary. Because last year miss what ninety game last year he missed three months with that groin injury. He was diagnosed with a strained groin. That's the same injury. The force them to miss half more than half of last season. And he says it was different from the pain. I felt last year. It was more of a precautionary measure to come out of the game. So comparing compared to the left groin strain injury last year right now, I feel better right now. I'm not too concerned. Now, the dodgers have since said they believe he will wind up on the injured. Right. I mean, even just a precautionary measure, they should do that. But how are we on Joe Kelley who blew it again yesterday? Like are we like, oh, he blew it again. Or are we like, well, he took the ball when ruined down because he. Kind of stepped up to the plate there. Like, he he made the call according to Dave Roberts. Instead, I got you like do we like him because he did that. Or do we dislike him because if you look at a desk did so much money in him? You've got to find a way to get them. Right. The scary thing is he was a buzzsaw during the postseason. Yeah. But yeah, he was a really ordinary four thirty nine. RA regular season. So it's a question of which Joe he still brings it brings me. It's got good stuff. Ninety nine got. Great stuff. Yeah. But the dodgers are eight and three. Yeah. He's got the three losses. Right. Yeah. That's the no it's not. It's not good at all. The other guys were thrown Dylan flora through. Well. Yeah, it's Byas and and Kelly that are the problem in the below buzz as a shock. Oh bias. Yeah. He was great last last. He was great the entire regular season until he got to the postseason then he was by. And then he was biased. Yeah. Yeah. Now, the good thing is Kershaw through a rehab start at. Tucson. I think last night. So he's getting closer. Greg. Do you know pull up the Kershaw information a through a rehab start? He threw me. Hey, he's throwing a rehab start tonight's. And then he's expected to either start on Sunday or Monday as long as feeling good. Okay. So how long can you realistically give Kelly? I mean a month two months. Oh, she'll be all star break you realistically. I mean, you've got to throw him in low leverage situations to seat now last night runner on your leading three two two that should not. I mean, I questioned Dave Roberts for putting him in right there. Greg. What do you think putting him in that situation? I mean, not three to run around second. I it was a tough spot. It like you said he asked for it. But I don't think it was the that you want him to get out there and be in a in a situation where he needs to performance put throw him in some low leverage situations and timing night. He also after when ru. Relieves after in the second inning. You are and you have to have Dylan Floro pitched, the what have I think you had ten outs that you've got himself. And then you're starting to get into your bullpen. You do for a long four game series against the cardinals. And the through a bunch of guys in the fourth game of the Colorado. So you're right and the third game. Yeah. Pedro bias through two innings last night. And he had no hit ball in those two winning. So he was actually fine. It's so I understand why you put them there, you try and hope that that gets them out of it. Yeah. Trying and we're trying to hope isn't good enough for me at the beginning of the year is fine opposed to later on. They're they're still fine fine panic, where's your gym? We can make it went ask you a question about the national championship game last night plugging me ever since I saw a mic Cronin. Talk to sure why the very best sixth choice of a head coach. It was like ninth. I'm I think I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt. And these Patino couldn't even crack the top seven wanted Patino. He was put it on. Oh, sure. Yeltsin. Cool Mason and Ireland Georgia's here, it's purgatory ESPN light. Hey, what's going on? It is Tuesday. It's purgatory time, George, and I and everybody got cleaned up by this guy named Andrew Han. Who's a professional poker player, and we did it at the poker tournament or we put Windhorst gamer tournament Saturday. Yeah. So I text I was he had text me about something. And I just by the way, I'm on the air with Mesa right now. He says you were a ringer and his response was simply ha ha ha that's it sad. He's not giving you anything admitting ringer. I told win I texted window. So I said how'd you do the rest of the game? And he said not well, and I said he's famous on the radio today because I was talking about him yesterday. He said that's his destiny. Yeah. His destiny. What does he do? Actually, he's an editor a digital and print editor. Yeah. Don't unless he goes back to the pro don't sit down at a table with them actually produces win horses podcast. He does a lot of things. Oh, I like Windhorst podcasts. Yeah. He produces the hoop collective too. I like that r George last night thirteen seconds to go Texas Tech up three right at the end of regulation instant replay. No, no, no, not even going there yet. Okay. We'll get to the instant replay. So. All the can hurt you there and Michael. And I've seen this a million times. All that can hurt you. There's a three foul. Yeah. And if you're not gonna foul you don't have to guard the two point area. They not only guarded the two point area. But when a guy penetrated they all clapsed on the ball. They throw it out to the corner. How would the national championship on the line? Can they make that mistake? I don't get it. That's been happening. What you're saying to do? I mean that thing was instituted in your house to give many many years ago. Yeah. I I'm with you. I don't get it like literally that's just kids having a brain fart or Chris beard, having a bad coaching moment. I don't know they come in out of time out. I'm trying to remember. I don't remember. Because that that would be piece of advice number one. I don't remember. But you're right about that. What I did have an issue with the instant replay. What was your slept the ball to somebody's hands? Of course. It's going to go through their hands. You know, what I'm saying it did touch. I mean, look if you're going to play with you to replay. I'm not a. Big proponent of let me let me slap your hand. I think it gets overused. I think instant replay gets overused. But if you're going to have it you've got to really have it you've got to review it that what if a ball gets slapped through your hands. It's still got to go through your hands. So it means it's out on the guy with the ball every single time. Then if that's the case, generally, those replays are used to see if it goes off like an elbow or a foot or a ne- not through the fingers of cordite. It's got to go through the fund by definition who touched the ball last. I mean, yes, by definition. But if unless nascent if you're not get the call run, if you're slapping the ball through your hands. It's gotta go through your hands. But who's it? The whole invasive play. Cursing a bunch of BS. I think look I hate into replay. I'm not a big fan. I think that one is bad. I think he right. All right. Let's play a game, Michael. And I have my last Lakers game in the season. This is a must win. No. Get after it. Let's get right. I'm gonna give you a name. You tell me if he's on the team next year. All right contagious called. Well, absolutely. Not. He's taking enough money from us. Yeah. See Vail McGee. No, Mike move Scala. No, Alex Caruso. I would outside shot. Yeah. Jonathan williams. Maybe. Yeah. He's a maybe Movado ner. Yes. Lance, Steve, no later. Reggie bullock. Maybe. Yeah. That's a maybe. All right. Here's a hard one resign Rondo who they liked for his leadership. But only because back at the minimum. Yeah. Okay. I I'm leaning. No, I would say no Tyson Chandler. Has never tired yet. Now. He's done. Yeah. I mean, I kind of broken down, Josh heart. Yes. Lonzo ball. Yes. Yes. Brandon Ingram is a yes. Okay. Kyle Kuzma Z. Yes. Yes. Lebron is a yes. And Isaac Banga. Yes. Banga time. So let that seven of fourteen players a whole new look, they should buy. If you're if you're you get an a move in van you should just show up tomorrow because that's a lot of turnover. I mean, those exit interviews are really going to be exit interviews. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Did you see what Portland one two nights ago against Denver? Okay. Denver. Did something George that. Maybe you can help me understand. Yeah. Because you're in the league, right? Right. Right. Denver Tang Tatt game. They okay, they didn't start three starters. And in the fourth quarter. They pulled the other two out Kay. So Portland won the game. Right denver. Now if Houston wins tonight and Houston's been rolling people at. Denver s to win both games to hang onto the two. I think the reason they did it is because they wanted Portland right to be able to get to the three. They would love to see Heston in the other side of the bradtha. They have to face Golden State. Correct. Right. But would you be willing to give up homecourt for that? Because I think that's going to be the end result. You know, you see what I'm saying? Yeah. No. I know what you're maybe they feel maybe Denver feels we can't you're saying homecourt throughout notes say hints Houston. Oh, right. Houston goes to the two right? If they win tonight and Denver loses either game Denver place tonight and tomorrow night. All right. I would have played it out because I because of demand mistake. Yeah. I would have played it out. Now, maybe they feel like they can't beat Houston. No matter where the series is. Right. And so they said, well, let's do the only thing that could get Houston on the other side of the bracket, right and give Portland game. Yeah. But I think they over thought it, I I agree. I do think you just play it out and try to win. And and that Portland game was winnable. So I think that they they really aired. They're on the wrong. I cannot I cannot bet on the NBA even in mythical money. Correct. All right. But here's a bet that you should take. Okay. Cool money. Yeah. Houston eleven to one to win the whole thing. It's a good. I mean, it's decent. Eleven to one's good odds, man. Really good. You probably hear yourself. Have you noticed how Houston has just been absolutely rolling people lately in every game by twenty five? And they think they can beat the warriors. I don't know if they can absolutely. They can beat the warriors. Listen, I've done I've told you this. I've done five of their games this year. They absolutely think they can beat the warriors. Like, there's no doubt in their mind. It to me, I think Houston rolling the dice on that. If if if the words don't win it. That's who wins, by the way. I think the best way to beat Golden State is actually the team coming out of the east. Whatever know why you're right. I think I think the warriors are in for like in the conference finals and the finals for a real battle, especially if they're facing Houston. So I think first of all ESPN is absolutely rooting for Houston. It'd be the two the three because they want the Western Conference finals to be a rematch. Right, right. The warriors and the rockets so there's that. So we should all here in this room should be okay. I'm for that makes us all more money potentially eventually drink behind for more. Yeah. Shut down slowly. Yeah. Goes down most. Only by the way, the only spot. That's locked. Yeah. West one, right? The word everything that starts tonight. This wheel starts tonight in a couple of hours Georgia all these teams playing we're gonna know two through eight probably by will not till tomorrow night. We're getting some answers tonight. I have no idea where I'm going this weekend for the play offs. And I won't know until midnight about this on Wednesday. But this teams don't know where they're going. I if your job is to hotel, you got a book multiple yet. It's really we're going to get some answers starting tonight. Yeah. Yeah. You do in the pre game tonight. I am can't wait the final pre game of the year. Yeah. Man. Do you have some magic plant for how about a retrospective? A look at. I look back at the great. Hi, liz. We could go back to Salvador context this year. It's the Mingo he gone to right? No. But I'm saying when when on Salvador, he got we got LeBron Sabato he was in Maui on the phone with you. That's right. Where it was free agency at like five o'clock this year, we are doing to Mingo Domingo gigantic. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. It's happening. Yeah. All happen. Happen. It's all happening around us after eight cited over there. What's going on? I think he's tired. He he's he's done a line there for the Gulf shootout Thursday. He lives here. Yeah. He should pay rent. I mean, at least that utilities. All right. That is the end of purgatory who what helpers go downstairs Trudell mcmanamon Ramona. Oh, you're outside doing the show live it's star planet appropriate adage fantastic for the end of the season. Yeah. So if you're coming to the game make sure to swing by the stage and say, hey, Sodano. Yeah. Go acres. Yeah. He's getting after it. ESPN LA.
1891: Friendzone To The Endzone
"I listened to the black guy who tips cast because rod and care in our hot GPO, baby. A no info for the DA federal agents mad cause I'm flagrant that my cell and the phone in the basement, my team supreme stay clean triple beam lyrical dream IB that cat you see at all events. Bent gets in ho stairs girls on shoulders playboy. I told you. Hey. The blackout podcast host rod and hearing first of all I did not realize how apropos does fucking lyrics were four. I think he just found a new jam. This is Bob besides gold digger. But you guys recognize that voice is the voice of Donald Trump. He decided to take a busy day off of tweeting hang out with us. Now, it's my man jail van from making podcast. Great again, still the best Trump impression in the game. Or Eli you guys all we listening to that podcast. It's amazing. And it's funny every week. Last week. They had Jim gaffe again on as a guest. I mean, y'all blowing up over there L, man. How's it going? It's going, well, although you'll be happy to know that since Mr. Geoghegan who we appreciate being on the show did not flex his social media muscle in our direction your episode from the week before is now number one. And your second episode on the show is now the number two. Oh, two. As you get a bigger drought. And you buddy. Okay. I hear like beyond saying, I'm number one. And number two, don't let let selling out Carnegie Hall food, you Jim. Okay. I'm moved to needle around here. Now, that's crazy though. I thought they ever saw. So funny man now. I doubt that y'all even able to get him back because I mean here, you know, it's very nice of them to do it. We appreciate it. Yeah. I've been a guest on their twice as the kind of fill in host. And we've had a great time. It's been so super superfine. Yes. But I listened I'm a fan. So I listened to the show much is, you know, like more than more than I've been on it. And I just I always looked forward. That's one download I always look forward to every week is lying. Thank you very much. Yeah. And it says a lot too because in this era to be able to steal do take something that Trump is doing and make it funny as very hard. They are there are people with teams of writers that dude weekly daily shows that can't quite get it, you know, and then jail comes in and knocks out the park weekly. So be truthful I have no intention of doing it pass twenty like January twentieth. Twenty twenty one right because if he gets reelected, it's like the jokes. I gotta find it. Right. Because this this country it can make you can make a mistake. I mean, you shouldn't even make that mistake once, but it's not a mistake if it happens again. Yeah. You almost need him to to find out about the show and get mad and then tweet about it. And then overcome the number one like that'll be how you come. Get your is the power by like, yo who is this fucking God. I may Trump mad. The only way. Well, and then and then when he has somebody assassinate me all my albums. Win. You can be the comedy, the comedy, nipsy hustle. Like, oh, man. That guy was he was such a great guy behind scenes, you guys had no idea. But yeah, check out the podcast making great mega podcast. Great again. It's amazing park. Tremendous. And I enjoy it every week. You're listening to the blackout tips, you can find us on itunes, Stitcher problematic. Search for the blackout just leave us pasta argues, if they're nice we read them on the air, if they're not nice fuck you why did you do that? Don't even take the time. But. The official weapon of the show is an unofficial sport. What about boulevard extreme? And today show is the course everyone's favorite show of the week because the show recap game of thrones. And number one show on TV. It was a big week. We're game of thrones. And we're going to get right into it. I'm going to play the interest on real quick though. Yeah. I love the drums on this. Wait, Tila, HVAC VCU bang out of this. If they haven't already it's going to be flames holy shit. And I can I say one thing about the song. I love the you've noticed that the end of a few episodes every season they do almost like a remix of it. Yes. Like at the end of episode one of the season, they do like a remix of it. And I like that just as much. Yeah. I don't know what the production values of the music the music. This episode was tremend- like this is marvel level music when I went to see vanity war and anger game. The music is as much a character. Everything's having on the screen like just perfectly accompany every moment game of thrones Singley like for eight years or whatever has consistently had like the perfect music along with every moment. And I feel like this this week was probably the best they've ever had as far as music that lasts montage with just a. Piano plan. You just like what the fuck my gosh. So great, all right. Episode was called a long night. It's episode three of season eight. The highest. I think they've ever had. I wanna say I saw seventeen million articles. They got twelve million on Wiki. But either way to highest that they've had so congratulations to them. Everyone was ready for this mother fucking episode. Okay. Like, they built up they did the high this. We waited two weeks the Super Bowl to pop off. And I gotta get you guys overall. Opinions. Karen, what do you think about this episode in general, I loved it? It was good. All right. I I have course, loved it though. I the one thing I will say is just in terms of pure battle filming. I think I preferred battle of the bastards like Val, the bastards this episode felt tense because of everything that was that stay right? But the bastards they made it tense just by like, it was claustrophobic and all the long shots, and you know, John chopping down like ten guys in one continuous shot. Like, it was a very tense episode to just sit through right? But this was great obviously for me personally. I think this is one of my favorite episodes, battle wise, the you're right. There's a Cup like hard home was just Jesus like could you can never get the feeling back that you had when you saw those battles, you know, because you just don't know who's. Survive and whatnot. Hard home was up there battle. The Abacha's definitely is up their strategy wise and sounds of saving the day with the knights of the veil. But something about this battle for me. This is the most scared I've ever been for everybody because it was like have like half horror movie half war movie, especially the way they dark and light initiate you. Just like what where is everyone. What is happening is classroom phobic? I thought it was probably probably one of the most intense episodes. They've ever had especially from start to finish. Yes. And I will agree with Jay ale about that oughta bastards, and the thing that made that beautiful was the fact that it was intense and a lot of people took a lot of ails really quickly. It was it was happening kinda back in the background like like like something was constantly happening. And it was like oh L took ailing you're going, oh you had and it was wonderful things. Where for mean, I enjoyed that one. But as far as the Spence this one was more suspense. It also took on an element of survivor hard in the middle. Like what they they really just whip their digs out on this week. They were just like no one else is doing anything like this. We're giving you like the walking day for twenty minutes in the middle of this episode. And they were just gonna flip back to dragons and shit. And you know, you gotta still not gonna know who's gonna survive. So all right. Let's get into the breakdown. I'll try I'll try to go fast. You hop in. Where you feel like you got commentary. I'll try to stop and give give some breaks his well, this was the most nervous I've been for the star of HBO show since Laura's in Mars ISA fucked on that couch when they broke up like. Like what happened next? And so we cut to the winner fail. And we're looking at Sam Sam wells hands. They shake. He's literally shook it as a kid say on Twitter and somebody hands a couple of dragging glass weapons, and he's standing there. And they like move, man. Like talk on. I was surprised he was out there. Right. I mean, look the war of nother northern aggression is about to start. You were sitting. You're just sitting here knowing that you barely survived other battles and he walked Sam walks towards where everyone's being directed to the crypt as I soon. Take your last to the crypt, which you and your family. You know, you ain't got no business saying that sorta way I mean, protect these books. Right, right. I'm out here. Current as shit. They need my mind ain't got out here fighting and instead he decided to go go towards the the battle. So he went to go stand on the front lines with everyone, and we get a montage of a bunch of people the Sally getting their formation Liana more. My was getting her troops order. She was right. Bobby Knight coaching because the fucking zone get out on the left side in. So she was yelling at everybody. -tarian was grabbing his stuff to go to the crypt. Theon are born escort brand to the Torri Davos goes to the top of the castle where he's going to be like directing the signal to light the trench which brought up last week size and aria Taboada cancel and I'm saying thing was what are you doing outside? Come on come on built from this. You can't you can't you can't have a standoff within the with the game with Nike Inc. Right. Nike's gonna come sit on your reading stoop and let you just talk down to you. This is a fatty, but she was outside. I guess you wanted to see everything that and I, and I think she wanted to show that hey, I'm out here with my people. Yeah. I mean, an interesting because remember when the Kingsland was under siege. Shafi right. Yeah. And well, you're gonna say when dick Lynch said or am said, you gotta be out there for your. Men yet. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Jeffrey punk ass was was scared. But remember when Thursday was holed up with sonza and just talking shit and drinking wine as like the fuck gains. Landon was about to get taken over by standards Barath. And if for her father thailandish, they're coming into last second saving all cane's landing like she was prepared to die in that crip like with some with. They wanted them and people like to drink so boys inch or something and signs. It was like, you know, I'm gonna be outside with everybody just a complete totally opposites thirsty. So yeah. Then dragons fly overhead we see Johnny Danny on the Greg Ganz grey, worm tore my Barrick to have and Jamie Dulles, Ed Kendra and sale all on the front lines Dolor s still making jokes about them. You of here. I know you're gonna die shit. Like that might do you need to just be happy. You got another body. I hear me. The dust Raqi at this point. We're doing like the glory prayer seen before they go to war at the end of glory yet. I wanna hold move. First of all, why aren't they code? I feel like we should cut to like we cut to everybody in their armor and all that shit. And there are we ready to fight. And then they cut to the doctor, and they should be like shit shirt. But yeah, they was out there. Singing, Omar long. On general mcken folk. Raping up. So I was the prizes. See ginger woke up in time for the battle because I aria blown is entire backout. He was going to sleep that one off. But he was up there. Ready to fight legs probably feeling like jello. And then Giora and adore throaty are at the front of the army. So when you looking at this army, it's like Joran doth Raqi, you know, those are like Danny's people and then behind them, the unsullied also Danny's people, and then like kinda behind out to the side of the and sullied were like all the winner fail people out of normal people like me dances out there. Yeah. The warriors too. Of as they're all out there too. Right. And so. The guy I'm waiting to show up. And maybe this is the spoiler. I don't know. I'm waiting for the guy who she used to fuck who like she sent to marine like, the the guy like across fit instructor Yelm. I met Dario harse. Yeah. Where whereas isn't this time where it's like we need everybody. Yeah. Maybe he'll show up in canes. Landon or something either that he just probably got hoes again chilling. He just went back and got. Got on. It was like crazy. Anyway, I don't know what you wanted from me. She was going with that Georgiou. But yes, so we Jordan adulterated the front so then in the middle of this battle where everybody's like nervous worked. Tis the patient at all time high heart's racing alone figure along figure comes out of the darkness towards the army horseback. And not even going fast, just like creeping, and it's Argo military. The witch Mila Sandra's is still alive. She back in west roast. She did to various that. She would come back because she had to die there. And she was like, hey, y'all up. Hey, girl. She jor she walked over to them and this shit what? So let she walked over to jar. And she was like, you know, how to talk docking, and he was like, yeah. I speak I speak acting and she was like who Ted on the rights. I source and so he told the Raqi people raise as soars, and then she touched one of the stores, and then when she touched a sore, she did like Valeria bail. And then everybody sword in adults Raqi, the curvy sores all lit on fire the same time. It was a beautiful scene and adult Iraqi start chatting. Master. There was reading. Uh-huh. I was so fucking hype in my house when they let them as faster, you know, what the fuck was. I worried about nineteen king hearts king dominance. They all going down, Cavs info, right? I was like so excited when they lick them. We got the fire which I'm outside. I only read like are like that. But I mean fire versus ice niggers. I mean, we this repeal. Game blouses. Right. And then she typed it even more swag after. She led to source. She didn't walk by great wormers like Valla, my ghouls. And then he did the head, and I was like valid Harz. And then she walked on in the castle in Davos was like everybody opened the doors. Let her in she. Wow there. Davos ran down stairs because he told her he was gonna kill her because she pushed rain on fire. So he owns fuck with her come on. 'cause shrink taught him how to read. She was like hold up playing puts a gun. You ain't gotta kill me. I'm dying tonight. No matter what. Yes, she she was I live out an started the five with the swords while past other dudes and Dachau arcane ready to die. You put this. You got to worry about it. It's going to be taken care of right? She didn't have sex though. I was disappointed. I thought she'd go out one more just random take off my robe who who wants this. We're about to die. Yeah. Yeah. I thought maybe she will give them some type of catfish sex. You know, that's her style. Oh, yes. Her acting knock that that necklace. All like oh. Now, having sex the Keever. No, thanks wouldn't be pull out game. That would just be like shrink out games. Just go away. Turned to any so. So then after she says that George she's I look I'm a die anyways to eating out to kill me. And then she looked at aria. Are you look back and nothing I realized eight our list. Oh, are you might be killing her tonight? 'cause maybe that's what she meant. I'm Dr her are you may I contact are you don't fuck with her because she stole Ganji from her back. When there was the brothers without banners. Whatever brother would up and I'm like, oh, so that's the prophecy. Are you gonna kill or something like that? But just jealous 'cause 'cause that was gantries. I right. I mean, you might have just been looking like you fuck your girlfriend is here. Don't worry about you didn't talk to her don't be lacking. Instagram, pete. She knew you were here in the whole kingdom. She just knew that you were here tonight. And yet you're not sending ravens to that bitch right now. Like, wow. Wow. At all tonight. She shows that I feel like in the director's cut. We do have a see where her looking at injury and arcola looking away like oh God. I rather just fight the ice people fleas get out of here. So there meanwhile, the rocky, of course, they are all charged up and ready to go now that they got playing so. Them and Giora both head towards frontline. They both on horses die. Let's go and they just get ready to go. They charge off into the darkness. Now this point. I do have to mentioned because it's been very widely reported case. You don't watch the show. It was dark as fuck y'all. Like, I'm talking like when motherfuckers come over unannounced to your grandmom houses. She make you turn off all the lights Dr. Okay. Like it was dark dark. So some people were complaining like my TV. I can't see shit. And now this. I felt like it was on purpose. It was designed like that. We haven't a battle at night. So it is going to be Dr suspicious to right now at the not just at night. But also just specifically they wanted you to feel like you are running into a void. And you don't know what the fuck is out there. Correct. And the night king. I believe carries the darkness with them the code with them, and it did make for very scary as battle to me because they're charging in our hyped up. But it was about this time when they're in the middle of the field that I'm like, I haven't seen the enemy it. I don't know what the fuck their list like anything. I'm all excited. They gonna his ads now I'm looking at the clock. Like, it's only nine three. Into the darkness. So they run into the darkness and keep in mind the show todos for seasons. The night is dark and full of terrorist. So I feel like when people are like I can't believe darkened white that shit was dark and full of terrors. I feel like privacy delivered negative. That was I was scared. So anyway, run into the dart, and we just see them roll up on the first thing, and it's huge. We don't even see what giants or something. Yeah. Like Hakin fees, and it was the thing where they could or Assan. They they couldn't see shit until about who seconds away from hitting the motherfucking wall of bad things. So it wasn't like our stores lit the darkness. And we finally see the battlefield. And now, we can you writing? It was literally like, oh, I saw him in the guy killed me. So they they watch from a distance as the fighting is happening everybody. Everybody does not. Throaty watches as just light after going out. I mean, they might have been blown out like handles stores. Skyer swatted holocaust. And it's just you know, the life stop moving gets dark and other thing. I noticed too is when the sores went out it actually went got a little bit darker in on the screen period. Like like the last sore goes out and then like another extra set of darkness his history about. And so and they were also shooting like flaming cannonballs into this like abyss. And we never see them hit anything or anyone die like him land. So the next thing we see is can we can we say right there? And I know this has been talked about an ID I've never been in the military, but I've just read enough and listened to enough news. If you have dragons, you pound them from the air, and then you send the troops in this idea of like, we're going into the city with our like, bows and arrows crew, I we have nuclear bombs in the sky, but we're going to go in with muskets terrorist. Tell them about it off in them. Tell them about it. I mean, it was unbelie like, I know they have to do it for the plot. And it's not like I didn't enjoy it. But you go with the dragons, first and foremost, we we needed that shock. All right, instead, they were like we're going to. I mean, they sent in their like most primitive kind of. I mean, they're good warriors that they're not even the unsullied in terms of training or weaponry. So they send them in. I just lose the whole all they would needed for next week is the death Raqi as Jamie hit told seriously. He said these guys fight like better than anybody. I've seen so you just put them in the basement save them for for seriously. And look I don't. But instead you lost them in three minutes. I don't look far from versions. But I mean now, you know, why I'm gonna be drawn people, man. Like, you gotta go to air superiority, I make battle wise you putting lives at risk just rushing in there. And these negative ale to start off doth Raqi army on snow to me or like, Mark Jackson, coaching the warriors. And it's like, yeah. You wasn't fifty games. But the next year somebody with a. Clue took over in one sixty seven games and the championship his act like you've got the personnel. You're not using them correctly. And the night. King is basically great Popovich. Yeah. He is out there. Same skin. Yup. Thanksgiving. Probably Hayes Trump. But yes, so he so the other thing too is Johnny Danny have landed on like overlook where they can see the battle. And so they're seeing like all the authority get snuffed out. And they're and they're like, you know, but the plan is Johnny says Johnson's Danny like, hey, remember, we gotta wait for the nineteen and after all her Raqi die, and then we see Giora and a few other people high telling it the fuck out of their hit him back. And I was like I don't know what they seem. But whatever the fuck it is it was serious. He came back. Blue was streaming down his face. Oh like. Yeah. He he had a look to where he looked at Torma and torn look back like that's guy him too. Then I don't know what what the fuck is behind him. He looks euked. Right. So. After that happens. Danny's like, I'm going to get on my dragging and John's lie, but the Nike and is coming and then he's like the data already here and took off her dragon. And then you hear the horde of white walkers before you, see anything. Yes. You and me watching you plan the scary video game with the door show. You what the adult role hope it up? Yeah. It was just so fucking scary. Like hearing the motherfucking just hearing them like running towards you without CNN. And it's like, I don't like a horde of like, a stampede, you know, here and into the darkness. And so then, of course, they make it across the darkness and ages fucking launch themselves into the unsullied and trying to fight him off his shit and the battle just turns into chaos like close quarter fighting Nichols game. Tackle ran got pushed down and. Breath free and for such a good fighter. I feel like I have her like every time she gets into some scuffle. You just you're. You know what I mean? Like every time she gets it to fight. Yeah. Have it? She says. Yes. She's very vocal. She likes. She likes Rena Williams playing tennis. Right. Like, we're torn on likes her. He's like us. She's a screamer. Yeah. What sort of into the big woman? So that she gets tackled. But this you get saved by Jamie. And this kind of thing happens throughout the entire fight. Like, I can't even name all of these. I'll try to remember the highlight wins, but like a more fuck again tackled another more focused, even and then like some happening Abbas a lot Danny and John fly over right as everybody's getting overwhelmed with the dragons and burn whole bunch of the whites and like from the fire allows you to see more of them. And you just like this ain't shit. Like, y'all burned up a whole column? These like. I see. Yeah. 'cause like twenty behind him like, okay. But they're they're flying over trying to do that shit. And then John's from the back of his dragging sees those like the the middle management white Walker. The regional managers the district manager white walkers, just like the death. They're on horseback. And they're just like why off in the off their lined up like off in the distance. And in John's like, okay, I'm gonna take this this dragging over there and burn easing because I got a chance and right when he went to do that a big as dark cloud of pure fucking cold that you just could not see through comes out of nowhere and invalids him and the goddamn dragging like it just just pull over the whole of like just the whole side of the battlefield gone. There's now zero visibility the meteorologist winter fail by to get fired predicted this, you know, got a cold front coming in. And then aria tale signs go down to the crew. And here's a Dag dragging glass. Right. Because she was looking at oh shit about get real. No, you ain't about his life. Babe. Aria knows this thing. I know fighting I love you. But I'm not trying to protect you die. And I knew as much as that's my booze. She really looked at that dagger. Like, I don't know how to use it to do this Arias like you stick them with the pointing in like, it's not it's not that come out of curious. Okay. Right. That's like give me a gun. Do this. Staff something if you have to and get the fuck outta here. So then signs it goes downstairs, and there's lots of fighting the main part is that that that matters is that Sam well gets pushed down he bought to get fucked up, and then dollars a kills white Walker that was trying to kill him and Sam gets in thanks and indoors egg his staff to the back of his mother fucking face in dies. They wanted to lot of ails like they was literally like somebody was like, let's go to the Batman. The the Salomon everybody go and just stamp everybody because they was giving everybody the business SAM's type of character as much as I think he's had a good gross over the show. He is that dude that gets other people killed like saving private Ryan like save one booed like eight people die like that's the Sam Sam story. It's also great writing because I think a lesser show would have him like do a four. Or like reform into this bad ass warrior man, who like he's hard and see like no Sam just barely living. Like he's barely living show like Sam ads. When does Sam workout, right? Like an another show. He's more like Padre put armor on. And he's like, oh it guys clearly been like hitting the weights during the Ossete like Sam is still like no to seventy five I don't fucking work out. And I just got a lot of heart. And they're like, okay, we'll see you can come out here. But you're not gonna look great. But he's finding survive, and that's really all that matters. But yet dollars et who's been clowning this negative come on all of the season and dies saving his life because he cared. Yeah. So it was more started the trend. This episode of the second the death of the second tiers. But I thought of this. Backup squad was getting a lot of death. Yeah. If you're not a series regular. Yeah. It was more like duller, dad. He died. So after at he dies of thing was any other. Okay. Yes. Then Stam is scares fuck out. He dies, and it's like, I gotta run. I reminded me of the original joke. I had about sandwiches. He was Peter from the Qazis because he was running like Peter from the Khasi and get the fuck out that was ridiculous. Like, this was a mistake. I ain't got no business out here. Wong from from from a vengeance. And feeding law home I go back to the y'all. In signs ago, the to the crypt, and it's like not a long scene, but like Masan de various Tyrian out of nine fighters down there, Gilly and all that stuff. Goes in there. It made me laugh, even though it's not funny. But nobody said a fuck you. Like looking like, I was going on. Down Muzzy Ruben. Yes, all your face. This is not too good. So then in the sky, John and Dan, Casey shit like Hera, the they were dragging the trees and shit like this. Flew into each other's zero visibility. Why damn quick at a little like I just want them to do like the airplane pilots. Like, okay. We got a lot of. Visibility shoes we've got drag. We got an ice dragon possibly coming up. We can't see anything. I think we're all going to die. Okay. Everybody buckle up. And we're gonna ask you to sit down flight attendants take seats the dragons gonna crash run into. Trees to each other run into our exited the supermarket. We can't see shit. Yes, they they would just offered up. Then back to the battlefield. Everybody was like fall fall back star fucking running to get into the get into the castle. Liana more my and her more. My crew are manning the gate. Yes. The one thing I did like about when people falling back to is. We're actually shifting like as people ran through them. Totally unsung. I'm sorry. We're actually shifting and like moving around to like close the holes that people running through. I really liked that it was beautiful to see them move around. You go y'all operating like army versus the is there like a we everybody's just kinda for themselves. We're not quote unquote unit that was the whole plan and the show didn't take us through the whole plan. They just kind of glossed over a lot of it. But if you paid attention Alaska because you see the way they said of the defenses, right? So you knew like what those things were when they dug a trench and they put the spikes there. And they said. I'll tell them to like the trench like you knew like, okay. This is kinda what their plan is going to be. But I love the distorted never really like explicitly showed you. So when you see you like, oh, that's right. I see everyone's running through here. Now that being said they were also get advocate come out of this feel like part of the plan as much as contingency because they were trying to live as well. Yeah. So bigger trenches, you need bigger trenches to that. You can like them on fire in the they they did like a and it was good at the time. But they did like, okay, we'll put a ring of fire, and it's like, but if they have one hundred thousand bodies just throw a few on ties, they do right and walk over eventually you need to get like a whole mile long trench for these dead things to just fall into. And it's funny because everybody shits on the plan. Right. But if we're being remembering what they said the last of us. Oh, this is only to delay the nineteen while they try to kill right. They're not. Really, they know they can't win this battle. They're going to lose the battle. No matter what. So they're like the only way to win kill the Nike and hope that that somehow makes all of the fucking his henchmen die like Gitari in vendors one. And so that's the whole point of the fucking battle. So are there plans were basically like we're gonna get I asked hey tier running back here. We're gonna lie something up wasting more time, and then we're going to get behind these walls, and then we're gonna do. And so it I mean, it just fell in the middle of the battle like this is going way worse than you could have ever planned. Yeah. Who can plan for net. Yeah. I mean, they tried. So at any rate. Liana more her people there, they're watching the gate, and she's like open the gate, and they do everybody runs aside like WalMart on black Friday and own and suddenly had to protect the retreat and John brings his dragging down. So he can get a view of brand case tonight king attacks the guards would so he's like I'm gonna sit over here. And I'm like man, you could've at least like robot dragging hit him with the flame like one more time. But he was like I taking no chances and their aria Schuessel white Walker with the flame or killing it before it can get the how and how turns around and kills a couple of off. But he did see the RDA that and then unsullied star running in and they and they tighten their their. They tighten themselves around like the the trench area to protect it. And. That's when. The out. And then that's that's when gray one tells everybody we've got like the trench. So he's like the trains and in Davos gives the signal with two to to flying to to Trent. Yeah. And it was opposed to signal the dragons fucking go light the trench dragon slaying. Nope. Air traffic controller was like we don't live. We've got a visibility to. The fire. We're still stuck in the night king weather, so we're going to be in a holding pattern for a little bit. Everybody say your prayers. We're all gonna die. Okay. Thank you. Thank you for flying. There's air. So then yeah, they try to they don't get the signal. Look like, basically deniers was only one flying around looking for the signal and John was purchased. You know, looking for the nineteen and the Nares conc- shit. So it was kinda like lamarcus Aldridge at the end of that Spurs game where they needed to foul and he couldn't see Popovich saying just his as motherfuckers. So she's there like cruising. I'm like she couldn't like come down a few few feet like maybe give fly by little something. But couldn't. So now, it's like we in trouble. We came in like the fire. Everybody's getting killed the fucking white walkers on as. They try to use fire EROs. They don't do shitting because whatever whatever the nineteen deal with the cold when he turned up. He turned we hit like if up everything like, you couldn't even light it up with with anything. And so then they tried to use torches, but the white walkers like tackling, the people that had tortured before they get to the thing and finally grey worm looks over at Mila, Sandra military, Andrea, he's like, you gotta light. Like, can you do about this? You look the the mistress of fire shit. Can you help? She's like all right come on. So then subtly former protective barrier around her, and then she does an incantation to light the trench with flame magic. And there were two things. I noticed about this number one. Militant is a bad bitch. She never ran not one step in this entire fucking seeds. Like, she started to to like the fire. Like, I have to do my walk on the runway. I can't be out here. Look look like how rushing. I did want her to move critter where we. All of us the collective in power of the game of thrones fan and was like if you don't run your ass over there as she was at the like. I'm too sexy for just read. So this she gets there and this fucking incantation took longer to light. It took longer to start his fire than my nineteen ninety two hundred coordinator Aravinda, this would not start as you had to do it several times because it was lying. I'm not I'm not like. Is the starter? Broken is like the clicking. I don't understand. And then she she did isn't contagion for so long. And of course, it lit, right? As like white Walker was trying to like jump on her face the shit. Just the fire went off and killed. And it was like okay now. Thank god. We got the translator. Everybody back inside. Listen, the LA the Lord of light might not come when you wanna. Okay. But he is always right on time. All right. Can I get a? So then the hound. Of course, these out his fire has a nervous fucking breakdown because he got he got the collection plates. Are she went inside the collection plate? Later. That's another deleted scene. No, no questions. Okay. Don't ask passing. Meet a new pair of shoes. Just past plate. So yeah, they get they go inside of the hound. Get scared about a fire. He runs off. He gotta get his mind right around the corner. In the crypt. Everybody sitting around. Various like these were already in the crypt. Right. He was like we all go down here on my really tried to break. The it's like man just just keep them until he has nothing. It tells you though, it's interesting, and I don't think it's unintentional. He has nothing to say, he's rang. He's had the wisdom and the clever words for seven and a half seasons or whatever he had. He just had nothing to say because it was just like there's nothing to say right now. Yeah. Because he lost all his internet access. It's like all of a sudden, you he unplug when the internet. He wouldn't take Twitter Facebook eat on the was happening. The other part of this interesting is that? People keep thinking there's like a spider nannies camp. No. But my thing is what kind of spy let themselves be stuck in his fucking deathtrap like us by you, you pretty loyal Thursday. If you can stay in that she was found out what the king with the plan was I'm like, okay. This is when I slide out of this out of the cast on the low and good luck to everybody. But yeah, he was down there in the creek with him. So I don't know if anybody's spot it was down there. We'll see. But yeah, he makes that that that joke, and they interior says like man files up there. I could like seed whole way things working now. Strategize shit, you know? 'cause like the plateau blackwater like I seen that we use the murder tunnels like get out and then through the mud gay in fares was like didn't you get chopped in the fucking phaser black or he was out the rest of the battles? Like, do you? Remember that? He like nominee. But you gotta see men wacky handle this shit. And then those like you die chill out and teams like will. I can't think of outfit less equipped from our skills, then then the white walkers and then signs being sassy night really gonna help. He was like, well, maybe you should stay married to me. And then she said you were the best of them. And you say what a terrifying thought because you know, his family shit. She said it wouldn't work with between us, and he said why not as she said. The dragon Queen your divided loyalties will become a problem. And that's my girl Masan came out of nowhere. Like dunno by talk about this. Talking about Mr. Nair's. Are we talking about miss day? You know, you ain't not here for it. You ain't heard from me. But not talking about is a terrible battle. You heard from me, but she can't see too far in in in in the clouds Nashi, like if the dragon Queen is she if she was there wouldn't be a problem if she was wouldn't be a problem because I think it'd be dead. And I'm like that's a great point though, Lybia mad if you want to, but if she reigned to the bracket dragons unsullied this year would have been over like about ten seconds ago though, air by calling fuck down. And I know she was also thinking I didn't bring my black adds up to this racist as cold countries outta be shitting on my boss in front of my, thanks. What is going on? The red thought has a point. Just like, no, thank you. Okay. Listen, I did not have to put a I'd not have to go in my hair up every night in a bonnet down here of here for y'all shitting on my boss in front of my face. She was standing instead of beads. It was look dragons flying around hush was like what you won't do. Just talk about her right now. Mike Wayne now, Mark wing K. I had to bring all my cocoa. But all the way up here for this shit. So then down here what y'all know. So then theon tells brand let the trench guys would about the Tel brand like L now, I really wish I hadn't did all that shit. I did like killed them kids and brands like Donnie worry about it because you wanna deal with you. Did you wouldn't be here now? So don't worry about it. By the way, I'm out and he takes a vision. He goes on a vision quest fuller ravens. He works ravens and fly across the battlefield. And he's the one eventually finds the nineteen on the dragon because of into this one. We haven't seen in nineteen. And then the night king is also commanding his troops from up top on the dragon in the cloud where no one can see him. And he's he's stars commanding them. Like, they knows did and Kanda where he just like goes run through the mother fucking like fire shield just run through that shit until your body's put the fire out and. We'll all cross behind and they did brand disappointment here though. 'cause like he's got all that power. And his power was like, I'm a become a bird better. I just wanna see what's going on. I'm like a better view of our massacre. Yeah. Brand would like take over there dragging shit. Like, he he he was like I was like why can't like wargin John's dragging? It'd be like fuck over here. That would have been so DOE. But now brand was just like, oh, man. He really gonna kill us. So. Though, the white star climbing the walls were like World War Z style. I don't know if you guys seen that movie, but they just like slammed themselves to the while in the next night walk across on top of him. And then more and more and more crowd on top each other today, basically climb up the walls just using their bodies. And I was disappointed in the plan here because they had said we need to man, the walls, but they have no high oil and nothing to pull down that wall. I mean, I'm not a medieval battle 'person myself. I've never been in one of these. But I was always told that these folks had like shit the poor on these muck trying to seize the walls, and destroying and instead they just kinda like looking for him to come up and not that there was some bullshit ain't gonna take Peter sermon. Crazy. So the muffler is climate while and they start fighting at the top of the while. Of course, it gets overwhelmed like MAC week 'cause you know, they they don't care today tie. So the white walkers just keep coming, and we get to save again, bringing saves Jamie. Stan just say. Say again, the whites are even like. Running themselves into dragging glass barriers. So to delight next week won't get stabbed by. I mean, it's insane. It's like you can do to beat them. So. Right coaching. Great coaching. Great team. I been talapity. Yes. Yes. Live scrappy white. Why could walk out there? Everybody's nobody. No last names on the back of the white Walker jerseys. What's on the front? No. Last names. They all got Motors got goody goody guys out there every night take one fifteen. Yup. Just no egos. And so then, of course, the Kathleen fundamentals. Overwhelm the hound is having a full out panic attack around a corner just trying to get his mind, right and aria breaks out her sphere and the fucking avengers theme stars playing 'cause she goes on like a twenty five kill streak of just white walkers. You know, this is like boom, she's spinning like all types of shit spear breaks into two parts. Now, you got like two stabby things that was neat. Like, she got all on these mother fuckers and you start to go. We'll maybe it's gonna be alright aria to the fucking rescue. And that is happening. Unday giant burst through the castle gate and slaps the shit out of Liana more that little kid. And that's when you realized that's a little white girl. Oh, that's right slapped. It like, I know you the little white girl. But like dead giant slap the black offer her and her into the future like she got into next week. And all the black was offer. And that giant was actually one one right member one. We all love died at the battle the badgers. Yeah. Well, he he'll fucking white now as so he's just giving them them peers nece, he's busy onto buck and more minds, either slapping around fucking trying to stab me picking up. She didn't hit nowhere it. It. And then. Are you overwhelmed? She liked does some ninja ship flips on a pile of bodies runs away. A bear shows how how he's like come on gain. Gotta help us out. And it could get the house pointed in the hound 'cause the hound is my is my guy. Yeah. And I was just like you got to overcome this. Yes. He was having a real money. You gotta call. Like his power up. He have he have. He wasn't a question. You know, he wasn't. He wasn't ready for primetime. In listen, Shannon. When you're a click gain, you wanna go with the mountain because he's winning titles, even when insured kings breaking heads. Whereas the hand the hound is you know, sure, he's big when it's the forest and a bunch of no names. But when it's the playoffs. He's got. No clutch team. Yeah. No clubs, gene. He was giving us nothing in the fourth quarter of to this point. James harden? Just just like what's going on with the threes is too much for t- or the regular season. And it was then that my man Berek points out. We'll look at aria she's up there. You're gonna tell her is no hope because how like it's still recall we die. Everybody fighting death. We are fighting down. This like it was like aliens when they do like. Gonna pack yet put her shorts. The greatest cowers of all time, but he has a redemption aliens show, and he does redeem himself. Yeah. But that's one of my favorite scenes all over me. Oh god. What a great thing. Oh, so. Yeah. Tells the how like what about aria, and we know just last week. When are you say, you don't fight for nothing but yourself, and he said, I fought for you did not and he sees her and he stops acting like a bitch. And he runs after then. So then Liana wakes up from the dream. She the concussion she surely has suffered from getting the shit flipped out of her come on as she is fucked up like she got like her. So she's limping is blood coming down her face as she charges at the fucking giant. And we all know this little girl by the killed fucking with this giant. I'm like, no, baby. What is doing just run to the corner high? She's like she was like I came to quite right. And so then one one dialing nine one one or c ran. I'm a little white girl in trouble. Police came out shot one why it was crazy Lord. But nicer, then she just went out like Latifah and set it off because she was like, I ran she's fucked up, and then the giant one went picked up with one hand and grabbed her and you could hear the crushing sound abiding. Chris like, her armor and everything inside of it. And she was I Don shit, and then right before she was about the bite the big one he had pulled up to face like he was gonna fight or some she she took her arm s you had a soda does dangling stuck you're right through his last good, and then nigga die and she died. He his hands on the ground, and that is the most gangster shit a little white girl has ever done TV hissy win out like a champ. There has never been listened. Not even aria when she was age could have done that give it up for our girl that true G A g. Among jeez, Leon more. My like if anybody tell you that there's somebody has gone out better than her on the TV show smack him in the face. Okay. You have my. Let's go. Hey, you got my skip Bayless right now, though is claiming that she's the real MVP of the episode mall. Yeah. She's like the Wayne wait other episode, but we even get to aria if Liana doesn't make that clutch murder. So like, she. She I mean, she dies in in a way that I feel like. It was. So like they wanted to give her Goodson though. Yes. And she deserved it. Because they've made her the the like focal point of a lot of the light winter fail. Bad assery, everybody died, right? She was like, I'm not I'll talk I told y'all I came to fight. I wasn't going into crip. I was came to consider and Giora had told her not to go whereas out there. She was like, Nick, I'm going out there. So you need to chill out. And it's good to see you cousin. So like. I didn't give a fuck. So I mean, it's like you another show would not have killed her. Right. But game of thrones. Of course, like that's a little girl y'all series. She did. But I would like take a moment out the for her respect our memory. With the gags. Why? To go. So. Yes. Yes. Hang in there. A lifetime of memories Kaunda, drain down the drain. Can't through tasks. Two. Take a drink and start to think and. I know that one day soon will be. Hey in. Liane home. Wow. You win. As to put her in the crypt by the front because she deserves statue everything he say live, a true mother g I cannot believe we gotta go to rest of the show without her. But thank you Ana you'll sacrifice was not in vain. One one was beating the fuck up everybody. I'm a missed her sands and scowling and her looking like a bitch. What you say low key? This was like window Wayne way hurt Rondo for the subjects that time. And then they went on one series. That's that's that's basically what she did. Danny John finally figured out that they need to go above the clouds. So they can look for tonight king where they can see things. And then the nineteen comes from the clouds, and they have a dragging dogfighting air, and apparently the dragons the drag the the nineteenth dragging apparently has unlimited MO. What? Fire would not run out that was a long fire. He's only. Like burning up Daime and John the saints on. Oh, man. And then he ran away. And of course, they were lost again. Add to go into clouds look for them. Then we get a very long suspenseful seen that I won't buy the describing in detail, but aria creeping around a library with a bunch of fucking white walkers looking for her, and I I don't know like why these are so much different than other ones that they were like like walking around like about checkups from library books. They were like listening for shit like it was totally different than the other ones is because they were like from the crypt. And they were like old and rusty like, I don't know. You know, what I mean like, well, no the crypt hadn't been awakened yet. So these are like they came with him. And they just somehow they got to the library was like. There was taking book down putting it back up in the Dewey decimal system. It was crazy. It may be like you say you had regional managers. You might have different levels of smartness within the group. I'll of that makes this some of them were like dumb, and do you might have some little bit smarter. They was like listening like your grandma you try to go to the fridge tonight. My take they had the super hearing, and you wrestle some what is that? So it was like a cool thing. She's like hiding my book shelves and shit trying to walk away. And this also great moment because aria becomes a little girl. Again, our minds, right. Like, we watched her go from little girl too bad as to like smashing ginger cakes the blacksmith and smithereens to now we're watching her back to regress a bit too. Like survivor har- like I just need to get the fuck outta here for these see me where I'm at. And they try to kill me. And so she does all this. And she finally throws a book a straight up walking day trick and the walk the walk run all over there to the book, and then she sneaks out and right around the corner. One of 'em runs into and she likes tabs it before it can say anything like. It was just like, and then lays it down all smooth like a smooth as Sasser gets in a room without a white start at there are anymore. She's trying to find a way out. And then you hear them coming through the hallway and they bus opened the door. And she starts running like Tristan Thompson away from a woman her third trimester. He's getting the fuck out of dodge. Okay. It was it was like the Walking Dead or what what is them zombie video games resident evil. Yes. That's what it reminded me of. And then in the crip they cut to the crib. And they just hear the battle getting closer and closer. Then suddenly they hear silence. Which I'm like oh shit. They don't kill oughta guards and resistance to kill y'all. But nothing has this is sounds no banging on the door and nothing, but they do a lot of like tight zoom shots. Everybody listening, and then little girl that's gonna protect Gillian the baby she was there. And she was looking like a stone cold killer. I don't know why. I said listen at the what they did Liana. I don't girl you better run to the back before these motherfuckers kill you. Okay. And so then embarrassment in the house they are. And once again, they do the same thing. Are you has a wide on top as she's screaming Lybrand? She's like, I get it all of me and bearing her takes his flaming sword. Fucking throws across the room and it hits the white walk. It kills it. But now he got that flaming sword. And that's like what I I was like go back and get the flaming sword. Right. I know nigga oh, don't do that. So it's not a dagger is not a rag ain't coming back. It's not a one use item. Right. That's recyclable. So he can throw the sore a grabs aria before he grabs a sword. And then the white walkers get between him and the sewer, and they just I mean ages star stabbing him. It was Debbie special clock. I don't know what was happening the hell out of him. I haven't seen that much stabbing since Lisa Ann was on black dot com. Okay. The amount of stabs man, took it was crazy. He was using his body to block stabs like it was. It was. Where's your survival instinct borough like, I know even killed a lot of time? But like dude like if might not work out this time. I mean, he lived a long time on a lot of fatal wounds yellow he live like that was enemy death day. Right. He had an enemy death. He died, and it took about seventy five feet for him to actually die because it was like staff stamp. He will push up pushing him off and be like take her and then like the Howard grab Arias star running. And then he was like run about ten feet and stab some more. He'd like keep going are you okay? He's like go today run. And then he go around coding. And at one point. I swear to God, I'm not joking. He put his arms on the wall. Like that stood and let them stabbed him in the back. So he can stop the fucking white walkers from getting to Arianna hound, but he didn't just die. He then taught her running again. And I was like what the new that was it. Those are moment he will use his energy because you know, about back up teen times. Look, I'm going. I'm going to use all the power that I have left in me. And then he makes it into the room with the of aria right as they close the door on the white walkers. So the white walkers can't get on because apparently whatever they did a bus down the front door the first time they decided not to. Just like, oh, man. This is okay. Let's go around. So they so then they're in this room. And Barrick finally dies Arias arms. Time lapse Har when this habit because I mean, it was sad. He died, but Miller Sandra's in the fucking room to she's like, oh, what's up, y'all? Jaylen till about a fireplace. And I was like don't take to resurrect do like, aren't you? Like the other do was resurrecting Barry because he he got fire magic. But she waited till he died and was like, oh, man. Well, you know, the Lord of light works mysterious ways. Like, you gotta try something. Anyway, she was like the Lord of light brought them back for a purpose, and other purposes been served are you turn around like, I know you and she said, and I know you and like you said we meet again because she did tell her that shit when she took gingery as she was like and here we are at the end of the world. And are like you said, I shut many is forever. You're right about that too. That she said Brown eyes, green eyes and blue eyes too. And they Arias looking like as she was looking our data face light. You know what I'm saying blue our? Lou is these whitewater has got blue eyes member. So she was like they banged on the door little bit and they turn around and face to door. And then. Mila? Sandra said, what did we say to the God of death? And that's what the faces may used to say to aria and her first trainer Syria. I think say tour as she said not today, and I say damn they stole it from black church. Not today Satan not today. Just like that. Are you got her swag back and ran off? And I was like, okay. She's she's in her mind, right mind. So I was I was like I think they reduced hurt. Diskette us into like, she just a little girl you guys, right? She shouldn't even be having sex out here. What the fuck and then there was armed him. Yeah. No condoms in the I don't think anybody's using them here. A lot of rhythm method happening in in in west rose. But yes, she ran off to be like, Nah, I got this and in the white throughout. I was gonna say this. They don't show her run. But it has to be one of the more impressive for both speed and stealth yet because Dan gantries run because when I did the rewatch. Yeah. Before this. These started gantries run in season seven is like. Underrated like the like four or five most impressive again a whole. Yes. Series in its note. Like, yeah, he does like a marathon in in like, the Arctic. I'm I don't know how the foot that didn't get more. When it happened out say if that was me they would have just done because I would have been like now they're good like like halfway through that run. You just like oh fuck fuck everybody fucks everything they even took his ex like it's just okay. Well, you know, what guys I gave it cook? And college drive. This is a long way to run in the snow, and this motherfucker ran all the way to the wall and past hours is like. In the snow dragons like bre, everyone could have died. They didn't even sit another person with him. Oh my God. I can't believe that happened. There was like you're the fastest. And I'm like, yeah. But I'm not you saying both, right. Fucker like train for this. He far as that shit. All the way back didn't even take a break, the water break enough, and even have no, Nope. I would have died about five minutes out like yellow. These are craziest alone. They should around with me. I don't know what they was thinking. But he did it man the MVP. That's the only reason he was able saying the stand stakes. Are you got stamina? So then. Theon art and his archers in Gaza was they they start fighting shooting flaming arrows into his shit. The night came brings the dragon. I'm not drugging brings the fuck was his for Sarah's or whatever he brings his dragging down towards winter fail and Busta while open and John attacks his dragon, and then they have a vicious dragon fight. I'm talking like, this is the stuff of Mike Vick streams, okay? These dragons are going to neck and neck fucking each other and the night. Kane dragging gifts cut stars flaming from the neck and shit because of daily brings her dragging down to to fight. And if up the Nike dragging knocks him off of it and like knocks his dragging out of the battle. Now. The only thing is John dragon gift so fucked up it crash lands with John on it. And Danny's dragging still in the air. The oldest one the drogue in. Shit. It's cool. But but John's dragon is output that he needs a break. He's out for the rest of the game. We cut over to we cut over to was the raw Roz gold who get the halftime report like attorney, Jay. So Rigo that with a twisted wing, and it's not looking too good trying to say they're going to give him an MRI, and I'll be back with the report. Yeah, they don't expect to see him back in the game. They're doing a concussion protocol. Right. Like just drugs music star playing. He came off the top rope and like finish that shit off. And also the nineteen was trying to kill John with that spear thing while he was on the fuck and dragging. He was like waiting for a clean shot. He just couldn't get him. So then. Now, the daily spots tonight king on the ground. A y'all I know I called this last week breath. I I the other thing I call when I said as I would never be scared as much as I was scared that moment, I was so fucking scared. This nigga guy hit with the cars, the nineteen just looking at her let her shooting with dragon fire, and then he was smiling. Like, yes, we finally got him we want and the flames of side it, and this motherfucker was just standing there, and he had his fear and was like. Yeah. And now it. I don't think so. Today. No that dragon fire didn't do shit. Then he was saying, I know you don't have faceless presents. But felt like he was he's smart looking like. Like you stupid, motherfuckers. And so he must have hit me. Joe bash? Why don't you bash? Been they're taking a gander at them. They girl I wanted to let you know, Dhamma real messy. Esi bit this for drama. He was enjoying his entire life to that shit. So Danny flies away as he throws a fucking javelin error, the ice javelin. And I'm 'cause that's the other thing as soon as it didn't work. I'm like, I turned to all black person that scary movie pitch. He he gets. Like. She ran he was basic through his spiel get yo ass on. And then John followed the night Kane toward the castle wall, and he was like behind him. But he wasn't really run into fans. He wanna learn them. But he was still kinda creeping on the come up and the night came, of course, turned around like they got new us back there. He was like, and you know, what I normally don't do this. But let's keep the party going raise everybody from the day. But just for you keep you going like, that's so unfair. That's like your boss coming to you with the war fifty nine and being like, I got this project. I want you to work like, I can't I gotta do overtime. I gotta fight on my day friends because of this year. So like all the fucking people rise from the dead have been killing not just that. If you Pete gain. This is also win the crypt people live come alive. I okay. This motherfucker superpowers kit make everybody that was dead back alive. And so now in the creek where they was kind of chilling because remember the motherfucking things far too like wherever the door was. And then they just stopped for some reason. Right right, now, my guess is if you look at the time in episode when I watched the second time aria remember they went that door, and it'd just stopped trying to get in their doors. She ran out to go help. Who else was it a size in them and the crip the white walkers to stop them ran out? This is the point where I think the Nike was making his move to the guys would so all his light troops shit. Just follow him and start fighting. So I think everybody was kinda build out at this moment he was going to kill brand. But then when he rose everybody from the day it was like game fucking reset back the first quarter. He just fucking unplugged to XBox. Start over everybody. And it was it was crazy. It was all men difficulty as then. John surrounded bodies, motherfuckers. Of course, the crypt is like full of these fuckers theon men are still fighting off the whites that are coming for brand. But now they starting to take some ales like the Osmond nine John. Gets drug comes on a hills. John and fire like Danny's under drugging in like, she shoots flame all around. John to save him from these newly risen resurrected day, people, whatever right. But she's like don't get the brand. He was good brand. And I this is the only part of the episode. I didn't like. She was cupcake and so hard even paying attention looking at his cheeks runaway come on this. That's a lot of this from fine nephew aspect, and boom the fucking white walkers crowd on top of drogue like fire ants, and then they had as long scene where he tries to shake him off. And he flies off. She gets knocked to the ground shaking them off in the air and all this type of shit. And I just I don't know if it's just like a directing thing or wet. I really thought this was kind of weak. So I don't know what you thought about the the whites getting under dragging on the dragging like that. But I don't know it just felt like a lesser show for a second. What I'm scared? Why like what I felt like they had to get it. You know, we know who dies at the end. So it has to set that up. Right. If don't like she just made strategical errors after error. And like when you have the air advantage. You don't park it leave it you leaving your car in a very bad neighborhood. Right. It is if the door's open. Yeah. It bothered me so bad 'cause like, you know, not I guess another reason it's probably good that happened because the people that hate sonza where shitting on signs of for being in the crypt, and like about the Dinesh it, so then I guess they had to bring any down a notch and be like looks you don't even be taken care what she Parker dragging like. So we could be like, oh, well, I guess they both kinda stupid. But I just thought it was stupid. So that happens she falls out the motherfucking dragging. And then the white are wake up, and they pay attention. Ooh. Dragon. Queen is. On the ground defenseless. It's time to fuck up. And that's why oh shit is Danny going die. And of course, Danny's not gonna die because Joe's magical woman in struggle problem. But you. Kind of. What kind of man leaves his woman that go save his will chair, brother? That's not even his real presence. Come on. You all by yourself girl. You see if you was my woman, you will never be stuck out in the snow surrounded, by enemies without me, having your bad baby. Nah. I wouldn't let that happen to you. So he's so up out of nowhere picks and his like, I got your back Elisi, and he gives her sort, and then your stove back to back Batman and Robin on all the white walkers, and they start fighting and also of dragons. And. And for meaning you, please Colucci touch my penis before. Care. He just wanted to smell a hail the things what does this male life? This. We've been in battle for a long time Clichy that's the musk hard earned victory. You think called Rogo smelled much better. He was riding a horse and raping them show. His junk snow terrible Khalid, see. Yeah. You would never treat you like that. Okay. He would never treat you like that. And the thing is I think for me this show, why not funny. Why Danny is the Queen? Because unlike sons of who can't fight she was like bitch. I'm not today. I'm not going to die me. And you I'm going shoot up. I'm out here with my people at somebody like that kinda shows the difference between between her and FRANZ. Oh, yeah. She can't fight. And I liked it to show didn't like make our sadly like a great source person. Right. She was out there barely making it too. But she was making it, and that's really all that matters matters. And then. We get a great scene of John walking through the courtyard fighting walkers ain't trying to get to the nineteen, and this was a horror movie to my favorite thing. Every character. We cared about was completely surrounded and needed help. And John has apparently grown the fuck up because he was like even with Sam. Well, he was like an y'all on y'all. Okay. Do it. I don't know what to tell you. I can't sing. Okay. He was walking back like, oh, man. That was stuck if you dying, but anyway, which way the nineteen he walks all the way through them and even gets to a gay and locks gate behind him. And then they cut to theon who's the last man standing we're branded the tree like a channel. And I mean, listen. I hate the on. I'll used to call them wreak. I only stop because he did save signs from from Ramsey. And I I'm not that biased in cold blood. But I gotta say man when then nigga was the last man standing wasn't running and was taking mo- focus down like a town. Room for. Out like, please help we need. It was like we're not didn't like reacting on the Celtics. And then he was on the he knows like, okay? Fucker hit that thirty. We need them threes. As thin -tarian take Santa's of hand in. Oh, they're hiding in the crib and the whites killing everybody and tearing Santa's high together at pours out that dagger. Because you know, what fucking. I got a dagger. I don't know how to do it. But if one of these up on me stabbing him I'm trying to I'm trying to kill them. Which is something that nobody wants give credit for what I mean. How different from what the fuck? The Khalifa guest doing like, I want to survive. Okay. She could've handed that dagger Tyrian do some. He was like, no, I got it. So then terrier kisses our hand and. Pulls out when she's looking at the Daggett light what's stabby in. He kisses her hand. And they look each other is for a long time. And then that's we fell in love and hopeless plays. Why why zubec- zone, right and. What? What think about are? We supposed to be shipping Tyrian now. No, no, red think shipping. I think because of their long history together they had all day. Look, we're going die like near you going. And if we do we can go out together, and it's almost like, no hard feelings. So even with that conversation half before he was like, we should've stayed married. Yeah. I mean, okay. What about you? What do you think? I think that I agree with care. And I think it was more of a I appreciate you. I see that. You are good. I see you're one of the good like like through all this. I see that. You're a good person. And it's it's been nice knowing you. Okay. Yeah. The biggest I feel like that is because he always kinda respected her like he didn't sleep with her. You know, money's things where he was like, I respect you know, what you've been through ticket here. Yeah. I'm think he's thinking though, like if I'd known shea was going to be shaved the funny hor if. She was just going to be lying and sleeping. He's like, maybe I should've tried to have sex ascends a. Don't know. He was kind of being decent for Santa. Yes. So he was like he was in love with shea. Right. But he wouldn't say it was gonna stab them in the back with his father. I'll know. I gotta say, I I noticed popular opinion. But I felt like they were supposed to be shipping. And that was a moment of romance between them, and I think. We might get something out of that might get here in the Santa. Together. You know? So that'll be interesting. Yeah. I don't know if a little romantic than me man, especially the second time. I watched the first time I watched it. I thought. It's just a we're kind of a moment of like friendship. But then when I don't know the way they made them like look each other in is for that long time. I don't know the shared a moment, we'll see and make it'd be like speed one. Or maybe it's like speed to who knows. It could just be that tension though, from like a traumatic experience when things settled I'll be like, isn't that funny? How we almost fucked. When armies were coming after us. I'm me it'd be like speed one could be like speed to. Speed speed. Yes, we too we found out that when shit he wasn't. 'cause Kiana went in that one. No. He was not. Apparently don't end up heavily at trauma money. So then. So then. The at the kids assizes hand or whatever. They he gets up like he's gonna go like help the Nike. His wounded dragon lands in the courtyard and blocks jars pan and Joran Danny star fighting whites and enjoy gets stabbed up even worse than Barrick. Like at one point. She used his body to catch a staff that was meant for her. And he wasn't even mad. He was like, yes, exactly why we planned it. And I was like nigga what you could live. This question. You gotta go on offense. But she was using him like shoot, and he was coli cool with that shit. Like what our what a guy? Yup. He fringe zone did end. Use my friends. Don't powers the block these knives in. Yeah. Jauregui shank like Chaz dad for Matt real world. Oh, no. Oh, no. Then of course, ought to other people struggle fighting barely living. And then the night came finally surrounds, the guy the tree brand and theon only one left, and then Brad finally turns off raven vision to tell behind he's limited on VR conso. I'm back brand brand. I just wanted to let you know. You're good, man. Thank you. And you got the juice now, that's all he needs to him. And then theon look so relieved that he finally had got redemption. And then I'm like, yeah. But can he really give redemption for the two boys? You burn that weren't him. I mean, he's kinda only here because you fucked up the anyway, so then he runs towards the night came with his spear all baby you dated. And I knew he was gonna die 'cause he didn't hit the Nike with a crossover nothing. He doesn't strike AM. Like like, he watched the rest of the show, and the Nike causes fear. Flipped it on them and stuck in fucking stomach and killed them like idiot. Like, of course, I saw that coming. And then John is trying to get past the dragging. And it's about the flame him he's hiding behind a rock. Although this thing was so fucking funny. Because of course, lesser show John get there and save everybody with like he started running and the dragon just turn around the right moment. He was like oh shit. Like down. Anybody would write I need people to look up that are listening there now or when this goes up look Gordon Hayward early in his career. He looks just like brand O J does brand looks like early. And I think brands secretly is like six three because he's sits very tall in his chair. Does he does? I think he's like an aspiring small forward. They could not have they could do. They could they could not have known that k was gonna grow tall. Right. They could not have known like like, I'm sure if they could recast David like we need to get somebody who's never gonna get past like five hundred ten but they make like so big in. So then they are course. John doesn't get past drag. He goes is shit in the night. Kane gets right up on brand. He takes his time. I mean, he is stretching. Okay. Like only him in Mila saga had the same gate this entire bucket. Come on they into love, you could tell you about the way. Just cruising. It was everything. And he was Linley walk in like, I'm sweet like, right? Well, I don't even know y'all show up tonight. We we're going to sweep right? I have three one the was. Jorgi stabbed of a few more times. Good measure and then gets back on its feet to protect Danny. And then John comes from behind cover yells at the dragon like that was supposed to do something. And I thought maybe dragging what's gonna light him on fire. And then we'll find out that drag their jars fireproof or something, but we do it. We didn't get a chance and then a night came stands over brand for approximately felt like about four or five minutes. It was a it was ventures in game long that he stood there standards. I got you babe. It's not that you could do. He finally looks down. I'll coli I don't he starts reaching force sword right before you can get a sort of his back out of a mother fucking like teleportation portal. Are you are you stark first of her name jumps out of nowhere as she's like trying to stab this nigga like in the air like this with a left hand because he's left hand got his and most puck in the nineteen turns around and crabs about a throat, and then aria is stuck. But she not liked the she got the crossover. So she hit him with the our Arvidsson on Jordan. Switch to the right hand by dropping the knife from the top catching at the bottom. And the night came looking like, oh, she was I always, right? You bitch stabbed around his got down heart blue that nigga took over the Dame Lillard face way Bob to everybody teammates lifting. It was amazing. I at the buzzer. Oh my God. Like, honestly orgasm could not have been better than the feeling of watching this little girl killed his mother fucking his show. Put us to the pages where it really was like, oh, they're going to lose my he to fucker. Oh, 'cause I Lok even feeling like the night. Kane could win this shit because the kind of show it is. I was like, oh, they could just lose this battle. And now tonight the canes. Landon. The Nike or some shit and she fucking stabbing in a heart by switching hands. And he explodes in the icy shards all his middle management exploding icy sharks. And then the resurrected people just fall down like dominoes and everybody is saying jor falls on the ground. And he's like I'm hurt and she could leasehold and he's like you can let me be just once. I'm just touch it collision. The mother of dragons touch my snake. Can I if it? He dies and then drugging comes down. And does like I kind of dragging her and everybody in the crypt is safe. They leave Arya looks at brand brand looks at are your, but there's no recognition and brand. Like, he just looking at her like, she didn't save his life and nothing. He's one. Yeah. He just he just has a gays about him. And the thing is with aria. Did it it was lily like everybody else was playing defense because the rest of the cruise pant to the wall. I was like oh on about the di-. Yes. And then. The hound opens the door of the Keefe and the red which comes out to castle and she walks off takes her necklace and falls to her death in the snow. She turns back into old woman. And I can't believe nobody tried to pick up her bad bitch necklace. They just let this lift out there. You even see like her soul in the window. She dies in throwing to it hit me. I was like, but what about Miller, Sandra? What they going to do. I was like she is Dade that was it. Oh. Twitter. It is not. I don't know. What show you watching? It does not get more final than what the fuck that was. Nothing that I have to ask what the fuck was the planning going to be without Milton. Anyway, come on. She literally saved a whole. She was the MVP cheat. She showed a lit the fire everything inspired aria with the privacy. And then went out and died in the pasture on it. If they if she didn't show up, none of the plane with a work. None of it. Then they cut the Ganji. And he's in the kitchen where are button-down shirt, frying, eggs and bacon. That was the end of the show, and then after that vice news came on, and they covered the battle and gave us officially some summary of the how many people died in the David's total to everything. So I think the real MVP is are you? Every high school and college coach anybody's ever had is like no states before the big game. But aria was like. Go ahead and give give it to track coach, and she got out there and save everybody's motherfucking life, man. So what are you looking forward to next week star person you care? To see them go at searching. Because now all the focus is going to be going to thirsty. So it's going to be interesting to see this strategy because they lost a lot of people have three weeks to do it three episodes jail. What do you look for next week? Not gonna lie and don't play it because I don't wanna spoil it. I think that would be unfair. But I'm looking forward to your on being back just for this podcast. Okay. I am too. Don't spoil it. You can't play. It won't not a fish three in the plot. Yes. Well, I. I mean, I mean, but this theme so I feel like everybody knows. We go do because back then I feel like I feel like we we gotta play it. Now. Take a listen, if you do, you know, how ignorant he's going to be not a he got. Oh, it's going to be even worse now like you. He was annoying book four post coitus this gonna be a fool next week. Oh my God. Like slap her ass in front of a mountain yet. Oh, he's gonna do ridiculous shit like proposing front of people's as you can't say, no or some stupid shit like that. I'm going to say that I think he. I think he's gonna do some damage before. He like he's going to kill somebody. We really like. And but for me other than finding out who's on the throne. I'm hoping like I think between aria the mountain and the hound two of those people are going to die like those three. I think you're gonna have some sort of confrontation involving those three and I need the mountain to die. So I'm hoping that the hound gets his redemption. With that. I'm kind of looking forward to a slow week. I think I have a battle like this next week. We pick up the pieces of winter fail. We think we go through. We gotta start rebuilding that shit. We gotta have a bunch of arguing about like who are going down to the health. Help danny. Hopefully, this will end the pediatric why will between aria and and Danny because like. Now, Dan because literally they could not have done this without each other. And she deaf. They definitely could not defend the winter fail without her own noon glide, and we see the end both of the dragons are alive. So so she's still got to dragons which will help her face all those elephants. So we should still have a match. Now, the two things I'm really thinking about obviously number one is is my man you're on. But number two. Number two, Brian is still out there with a crossbow in a mission to kill Jamie interior. And they don't know it. So he could show it makes we go. Hey, y'all wanna battle? And I mean what's going to happen with that? You know is he going to come clean right away. It'd be like we cool bro hose. Or is. He gonna come through. And be like, I gotta fucking wagging gold, and I need to be an monkey Braun. Can't do it. I can't. I mean, he could like because of the show, right? Because of the way the show works. But that would be one of the most Debbie like, the most disappointing that women were hurt if it was him that killed Syrian and Jamie because they've been through so much together. And they seem so cool. And it just feels like he's the kind of guy that would tell them like your system to kill ya. I ain't gonna do it. But like can you keep me out of this like makes y'all kill her or something because I she found out? I didn't kill ya. I'm dead. So I'm going to lie never seen you. Yeah. So we'll see about that. But they didn't even show him in the preview. But I mean, that's gotta come up soon. So that's it for this week man jail. Thank you so much for being here. Do you on? Thank you. This was a pleasure. I'm so glad I got to do it, man. I'm glad you're here. And then of course, we check out making podcast. Great again. Okay. It's the only podcasts out there that I can like listen to Trump stuff about and not be mad. So ain't that the truth and in jail. You got anything coming? Yes. Be anybody out there in the Detroit area. I'll be headlining and Arbor comedy showcase may seventeenth eighteenth. So tickets are on sale at a comedy dot com. So that sounds like an alcoholic synonymous. But comedy dot com. No drinking for that. No, no drinks, maximum dot com. As you said. Yeah. So get tickets to that if you're in the Detroit area and yes making podcast. Great again. We just put up a new episode today. That's really good. So yeah, thank you. And of course of programming note for all our listeners are premium balls these forces tomorrow morning at ten and then the nerd off is Friday at five. So you got those shows coming up I'm trying to sneak out and see the intruder movie tomorrow night. That's a good time out of Michael easily. Getting it done. And I might be recapping that with a Chris Lambeth on his podcast. So yes me to see that as well. Maybe a three person review because crossover for all the jokes. Mike, Mike, if I'm Trump Michael Ilian, Meagan good have been my blacks. Recruit right there man that as my power couples. I'm going to see movies on a low to last one. He did with Moore's wasn't worse. No, the one where wait. What's the net joy to where? He was the stalker. Michael was the stalker. They hid under the bed and shared. I saw I all the bad black movies, Michael. But he he should have had a bigger his career should be bigger than it is. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like they should do a shared universe of just those black movies that you know, what I'm talking about. They're all the same movies. Like wars chestnuts. Knowing ended. Michael Elise in it. Everyone has a job. That's like not really as lucrative as looks in the movie, but movie they're like they're living in a millionaires mansion. But I. Arment which are like didn't that make forty thousand dollars a year? And then. So I think do share universe of all the light black people do something. And then some crazy Stocker she happens to them. So all right last question for we gotta hit jail. What do you think Trump was is looking forward to for next week's game throws? Well, I wanna see finally we get. Searcy and Jamie, if they can get back in bed together because you know, there's nothing wrong with a nice man being attractive to his attractive blonde. Blood relative. It's okay. We have no problem with that. They're very tough very tough in Wester. So they don't mind who you love. They let you love we love even if your blood relatives and immediate family members. So if. Anka, let's let's do like they do in western hosts making them together. I. That you jail. They your body until next time. I love you. I love you too.