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The Falcoholic Crossfire Podcast: 2018 Week 3

The Falcoholic

30:57 min | 3 years ago

The Falcoholic Crossfire Podcast: 2018 Week 3

"Welcome to the inaugural episode of the alcohol at crossfire. Our argumentative podcast focused on ruthlessly debating questions about the falcons in the NFL. I am your moderator, David Walker, d-w. You guys know me from the alcohol podcast and joining me today, our two combatants. The first, you know her very well. She is my co host on the falcons at podcast. She has one million nicknames at this point. I'm speaking, of course none other than Gina amount online Thomas gene. And how are you doing great and chambers going to ruin your life today? Oh boy. Here we go. You cannot ruin my life anywheres than I have already done it. Sister. I'm gonna bring my a. game. Gene is already conveyed who are other combatant is in this contest in his none other than the fiery fiery takes on the falcons. And of course we're talking about Matt chambers, Matt. How're you doing man? I'm just ready to show gene what's up. I mean, this isn't this isn't Twitter. You don't have anyone come to help you out. It's just. In many one on one. Oh. All right. That's how this is gonna go. Fantastic. All right. So here are the rules of alcoholic crossfire very simple. We will have a selection of topics that will be either focused around the falcons or the NFL. In general, the two combatants have agreed ahead of time to the sides of the argument that they will take on this. Each side will have no more than ninety seconds to give their facts and data and whatever they wanna do to support their their standpoint. And of course, at the falcons dot com, we will have a poll. So for those of you listening win this podcast hits, you will be able to vote on who the winner of our very first crossfire episode was Gina or Matt. So with that said, let's get to the topics topic. Number one, remember ninety seconds. I will give you warning fifteen seconds and five seconds before your time runs out. Here's the topic is. Steve Sarkissian for real. Have we seen a real turnaround in this falcons offense after game to the beatdown of the peril Carolina Panthers? Or is this yet another smokescreen. So arguing for the fact that this is something falcons fans can look forward to. This is the real deal, Matt chambers on my Mark. You can start Matt was taking the opposite position. No. Turkeys for real. You weren't just is. The moderator, I've got the notes, we got, we gotta go to the monitor. I have the easy position are more. Dill, your worst chambers. Good luck. Ninety seconds some arc, Matt, make your point. All right. To start off, I didn't realize it was going to be a poll. So I apologize to every reader potentially in kind to in the comments at one time or the other that was that was not me. I've spent some time reflecting in that was that was all very wrong a million. I'm sorry if I if I band you, I don't know if you. Vote or not. If I have been you a new Campo. And we'll work on something, but back to back to Sarkisian I'm actually very excited to see what he has in store for the rest of this season. I like so the gaming Carolina Panthers, which by the way, eight theory, good defense. I saw a ton of stuff we saw back in twenty sixteen sixty. Yeah, these is your kind of passing back. You know, we really saw him. You allies ING having Coleman for the first time. Basically since he's been here like just correctly utilizing Coleman. A lot free snap motion that was ages just stable of Kyle Shanahan. It helps Matt Ryan figure out what's defense VM kind of figuring it out. It's it's really kind of expanded on like his Ian knowing fifteen seconds. Cer- kissing really knowing kind of the strengths of his players. You've seen a lot of crossing routes, what great something's really hard to defend in. If you're like, you're probably just some hater. There we go. Gina, you heard his arguments. He got his ninety seconds. I heard his air quote arguments, but here's the thing. This was the twentieth game that he has been in charge of this offense. And so we're talking about a very small sample size of various mall sample size. And yes. Yes, it's a scientific argument. Like if we're looking at the falcons offense as a whole under the leadership of Steve Sarkissian, you've got one game where the offense looked back to its two thousand sixteen Warri, and then you have nineteen games where they look like actual bullshit. And so I thing is it's it's a fluke. It's got to be a fluke. I mean, statistics say that that's not the real falcons offense and yes, did Sark spread the ball around in a way that actually made sense for once in his life? Yes, he did, but it was once in his life. I'm we're talking about nineteen other gains where we were like, why are you zoning on Julio and not throwing the ball, anybody else Julio's in quadruple coverage. And he can't score in the red zone because he's blanketed by defenders and itchy. And so my thing is it's one gay. And I don't think that we can pin our hopes on one game. I cannot until I see this consistently from shark, I cannot buy it. Timer. All right there. It is folks if you're listening in keep mind of these two two viewpoints and who you thought did the best job and. Does not get you extra points. That's actually probably the Duchesne points. But the thing is. Foaming enough. You go past your time and you just as an attorney. You should know when I rest my case, I rest my case. The rest of your case. Disagree case. I certainly didn't see argue arguments coming from these two. Yeah. Moving forward topic. Number two, this one is going to branch out a little bit, and we're going to talk about the NFC Jimmy. You're gonna start this one off for us, which NFC team will finish the season with the best record. Make your case while this is probably gonna sound a little, but are given that I just don't all overseas archaic. Then I'm probably learned as life, but I'm going to save the Atlanta Falcons for a number of reasons. They are stacked with talent. And so Matt Ryan, two thousand sixteen VP very talented. He's got an arsenal of weapons has disposal. He's got Julio Jones, probably a top to our top to receiver and the league Calvin Ridley who really had a coming out party against the Panthers last week in Steve's Arkins aberration game, but he actually well. Austin Hooper who should becoming into his own. You know, you've got when he is healthy devante Freeman and then have Coleman in the backfield. You just have such a talented offense. And so I think looking at the way some of these other teams of played like the eagles shirt neck foles than started, but Carson Wentz gonna come back and be rusty the Rams they have a ton of talent, but they have very young and it's fair is order back the Vikings. They had a ton of turnover at the like in the coaching staff. And so I think that's going to make a difference than so. I think that when you look at it objectively and look at the way that teams like the Panthers and the saints are playing, I think it's going to be the falcons. I really do think it's going to be the falcons. I still going to be. No other way to win the argument other than to say your point three consecutive times. For a lot of people on going to adopt that as my method. Just newer tentative. Tell the people the same thing over and over until they believe it. That's my approach. It works for a lot of people leave that one lone chambers. You've heard her argument for the falcons and if c team with the best record make your case now? No, Jenna. Am I saying this right. Okay. You cannot sweep the Tampa Bay bucks under the rug. Like your urban Meyer right now. The books have the most points in the entire NFC after two games or Ryan Fitzpatrick magic fits magic, seventy five points into incomes. These are this is really kind of like a, I don't know exactly how I want to call this, but the whole coaching staff is trying to keep their job here and they are. They're on killing it. The books are very fun to watch. And I mean, I don't even know if I need to like pointed their success. They beat the eagles inland did not the buccaneers exit blue eagles pretty awesome. I mean on saying is some sort of consistency in my arguments I can't. I mean, I'm not gonna say the falcons are gonna win the NFC, but also say, are kissing trash is those are. Even up. Maybe they have a healthy phones, it onto Freeman, I don't. I don't remember ever heavy developed him even healthy. It's been, I don't know. I, I was still like I was still in high school last time about Freeman speech. You can't rely on when the bucks. The wide receiver fits magic is putting together this year, but there we go. I need a five second rebuttal I need a five bottle. During my junior grit, ten seconds seconds. My ten second rebuttal is this Mike Smith and cutter jets. Irrelevant. How many times we seen Mike Smith. A position actually makes noise in the playoffs. And then all of a sudden that evaporates, by the way Ryan fits magic is spectacular. He is not the starter. It's Janus Winston, I rest Mike ace. Like I don't know, twenty twelve. You want to want to ace. A. To argue that what they're gonna do in the playoffs because I said, hey, there finishing person, NFC come come. The playoffs. We're probably Mike Smith disaster. So. Fair enough. All accept it. All right. We're gonna table that topic. Two or getting a little feisty. That's the point. That's the point the point, but we're gonna move on the topic number three. Who started the last one, do you? All right, Matt, you're gonna start this one who will finish the falcon season with more rushing yards. Tevin Coleman or devante Freeman, you have chosen to say, Tevin Coleman will do it make your case. This is the easiest case for remained. Number one. Devante Freeman is on my fantasy team that is a recipe for disaster. Devante Freeman got like six carries. You might have got me like, I don't know, five, six points or something. Boom, he's gone. He's down. We don't really have an idea like the Dan clean is like I dunno looking pretty good. That's what usually says before someone ends up on into reserve. So I mean, he's definitely not playing the Sunday. Doesn't sound like he's playing anytime soon. I think tem Combet has the perfect opportunity to show everybody. Hey, somebody's paying me. I don't know, thirty forty million dollars next year. And I mean, just just look at what he did last week against Carolina. He just beat the shit out of the Panthers. It was some of those place he had. He had this one run where he. This defender who is haven't quite seen someone like stop so quickly in switch where he was going. I think this is really his coming out year in. He's gonna have anyone because the freemen just has constant the. I don't even need more time. Fifteenth via lawyer. Rest case. Healthy. I'm going to call you a liar. All right. Gina, you've taken the side that devante will finish when we're rushing yards. Make your case your bam, right? I bad. And here's why ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I present to. In fact, I present to you the fact that might esteemed colleague match chambers went to end the Anna for law school. And so I was with Matt. Just throwing that out there. I oughta you're taking up my time this again. Listen. Amac watching the draft on the falcons drafted seven Coleman and Matt lost his mind and listen, Matt doesn't get excited about anything, but he was buried excited about seven Coleman because he has Hoosier bias. That's what we can shock. This Tevin Coleman is very good. He is very good. This is not all a slight Coleman. However, devante Freeman is a special talent. He's so well-rounded as a receiver and a back, and we've already seen what he can do. He has been a fundamental part of this offensive success since Mike Smith. Finally let him play because of injuries. And so when the Monte comes back and this healthy, he's going to get the bulk of the workload. And that's just the way that it is. Dan Quinn is married to giving players snaps because of their salary, but he is going to give devante more opportunities because of salary. And because he was having her both so good. And so the Monte is going to win this battle easily. He is going to win the saddle easily. There we go. You to get a little feisty. Now in here. Hominum Hominum which goes well with Chilean rice. But I'm just saying some ad hominem here. All right. Oh, is she going. So I got. I. About devante being not not being injured all the time, and I just kinda face out here who's bias is really said he was great in I agree with you. That was your best point which is agreeing with me in everything else. He said. Granted, this agree, but Hemilae make you are wrong and I am rights. Do you. We may have to get some boxing gloves for the next dish in of the Philip crossbar. Topic. Number four, thank God. We're getting closer to the. We'll make it. Yes, two more laps. All right. Gene, we're gonna start. This one you've chosen the under in the under on the topic is will Matt Ryan exceed forty, seven hundred passing yards. This season forty, seven hundred obviously forty. Eight hundred is averaging right at three hundred dollars per game will Matt Ryan. Go about forty, seven hundred this year. Gina, you said no. Make your case the falcons because of how good they were last year because of the strength of the division. They have a really tough schedule this year. And so the strengthens offense is really being able to spread the ball around and you set up the past by establishing the run. And when you have a talented backfield like devante in heaven who went to end the Anna, so mad is very biased toward him, make sense to really get those sewing. And we saw ITO Smith really moving the ball to on the ground last week against the Panthers, the Monte sale. And so I think that they're going to. Rely on the run more, especially with those three guys who can really make things happen on the ground and Matt's not going to have to pass as much, which is really a beautiful thing. And so I think that because of that because of the defenses, they'll be facing. I just don't think that it's possible that Matt's going to get above forty, seven hundred yards. I think that he'll get close to it, but I don't think that he's going to surpass that, and that's okay. I don't think that's going to hold this team back from winning Dame's. I don't think it's a problem. I would like to see a more balanced offense. I think that we would all like to see more wins, and so it's it's a good situation, not a knock on Madda all, but also going back to the whole Sarkissian thing where I very strongly made a case against against Steve Sarkissian being the real deal. And you know, caution readers not to get too invested performance. I think that Matt goes for under forty, seven, and that's fine. We go. All right, Matt. She threw a few jabs at you buddy. So you're saying Matt Ryan. We'll go for at least forty, seven hundred yards. Make your case. I'm I'm sorry. I'm still blown away the disrespect for our franchise quarterback. I'm disgusted to have such a hater intermit- lease any with think Ryan gets reformed hundred, four thousand seven hundred yards if he went to a high. Oh, but that's impossible because all their quarterbacks. This fans are all the time I b. It's v Hieaux states announce in mechanical repair workshop, whatever. It's called. Are telling you about how Matt Ryan. It's gonna throw more than forty. Seven hundred yards. I mean he's done it in twenty twelve. He's in twenty. Seventeen. Sorry. Twenty sixty two. Exactly. Exactly. Thank you. My for me, he he's hit this with both of his previous coordinators. And right now, everything is falling in line for Ryan to build on what he's already done. Early this off season. He knows the offense. You have Calvin Ridley in there. Probably the second best tight end he's ever had to throw to. Everything's just really lining up for Matt Ryan, especially his injured defense. He's going to be throwing up or five thousand. You get to more seconds. Finisher case this my case, I kinda threw out there. I. Needle. Catch up. They're going to need to be scoring. Thirty plus points game and Matt, Ryan guy who can do it. He's shown e. n. he's gonna do with this year. All right. Jeanene final thoughts on that topic except for the fact that I win. No, I'm good. I one. Feel out of your sons. State thing to do. Me Ohio State. Final topic. This one's good when this lines up with some articles. We've seen this week at the falcons dot com. You guys check those out daily twins of new content every single day with a fabulous stable of writers. Bringing us some amazing content during the season. Please check out the site daily throughout the day as those articles land quite frequently. Now, one of those picks pass rusher, Vic Beasley, obviously off to a slow start. Gina, you're making the case that this season this season big Beasley will have at least if not more than eight secs. Again, we're talking about Vic Beasley, eight Amore sacks this season, Gina make your case. So here's the thing, Vic, basically led the league in sacks in two thousand sixteen. He had fifteen point five sacks that was more than Bonn. Miller that was more than Khalil math, like guys who are just. Dominant at the position. And so that year through the first three games, he really didn't do anything. And so I don't think that what we've seen so far this year from Vic as Representative of what he brings to the table. Vic is very talented. He has speed off the edge. He's very athletic. He can get to the quarterback, and I think that a key for that as having tack McKinley on there who can also bring pressure like it's double teens. And so last year we saw his sack total drop, but it's because he led the league in sacks in two thousand sixteen. So teams had was fine extra guys to him. The keep obey this year. Of course, tack is not healthy this week, but when Tak is on the field, they have to account for him to. And so I think that once tack, it's fully healthy and not fighting through groin injury, and we've seen tack can do like he was great against the Panthers. I think that teams are going to have to work. Worry about containing tack, which is going to open up opportunities for we know that that can get a dump. We know that he can get to the quarterback. We know that he has the drive in the fire to do it. And so I think that that's actually an easy call, Vic will have eight sacks this year. Matt, you've got the under. Make your case. All right. And the first off, I, I appreciate that you say we have a lot of talented writers at the Hollick David, but I'm a little mad that you didn't include are less talented writers such as myself. That's. And I'm not. I'm not happy about it in. All right. Let's let's get to this. Now. Jane will mention Vicki's twenty sixteen. I had to go check my calendar to find out what year it is because it is not twice as teen is also not twenty seventeen. It's almost twenty night and we haven't seen Vic Beasley with anything since not even since playoffs at twenty sixteen he fell off. Oh week thirteen or something he disorder stopped in. I mean, you know, she's right. He didn't do much in the first games which is literally the most consistent thing about his career ever in. We see him this year. He's not playing double teams. He's not planning. His might be planning. It's good tackles. I don't even remember the guy he played against a against Carolina. His name is. I don't know. Jim, maybe I don't know. It was some guy sign up the street literally on Tuesday, visa. Going to one on one with this guy is nothing. He's sucking out loud zero sacks against some undrafted off the street guy. He has no pass, rush moves. We're gonna be more than like four sacs at in this year. Putting Brooks read at this point. Wow, Brooks Reed named drop at the end. That is pretty vicious. It's pretty vicious chambers. Chambers breakf- has learned how to do spend move. So I mean there is that. So he has the least to pass, rush, moves twice as many as veasley has. All right. Here we are folks five topics. Five debates is now time for closing arguments. Genasense your co host and I have to deal with you every week. Let you start. You get one minute to let our listeners know why you believe you made the stronger arguments throughout this first crossfire podcast. Make your case. Chambers is in Terni. So he came in here and he tried to build a case against me, but everybody knows that attorneys are trash and chambers of essay. Stains of our sap. Okay. Amber said, just listen to me the voice of reason, and you know how to vote in the poll vote for me. That's all I have to say. I don't even need the full time to wreck chambers. It's that easy. Counselor. You have sixty seconds to make your rebuttal water twin. Make your case. Well, let's let's just go back in what JIMBO head to say through entire. I don't really want to call it an argument. I just wanna call it straight up stupid nonsense entire time. Talk about high ceilings. Was she out my Steve him. Played out of his mind like his. He was fantastic on Sunday gift. You should on JIMBO. Yes. He said, Matt, Ryan is not good enough to put forty seven hundred yards. JIMBO I dunno. I think scales to be honest with you is it was pretty boring in generally skated on the falcons. I, I don't appreciate it as a fan and I don't. I don't think voters predated old. So vote for somebody who loves the falcons and loves America's opposed to someone. He draped himself in the flag. The blue. That was a low blow. My friend. I was expecting, but honestly, I probably should have expected that. For being on this. None of this is the prize, really. We're going to be this this. We're going to edit this podcast down into like four minutes, so. I'm just sticking the explicit tag on it like we do every other podcasts. So this is not safe for work friends. All right. Gina, Matt, thank you for being the first to debate on the falcons crossfire very quickly. Gina tell the listeners can find you. You can find me on Twitter at Gina. Thomas, I am probably tweeting about the Ohio State buckeyes or the falcons or tweeting pictures of my dog. That's what you have to look forward to. You can also find me at felt the hell life. I do more editing than writing these days, but I do some writing and it's fun. I like writing about the steam. They're great. Regardless of what my opponent would have you believe. Council chambers till the listeners can find you. You can find me on colic, Matt. I am of course. Oh one of the editors editors on the federal Hollick. So if there is a pole I find out who voted for who. And so. Anything it'll after that. Just letting everyone know. I know I know who you are and I can ban. Just with sent me a message unbanned you and I will that were threatening their listeners. The readers. Very fair, always fair, love and alcohol across fire. VR this slogan. Slogan. KOMO is good for those. Fell Kahal at crossfire. We're gonna keep that one. Yes, absolutely. So for Gina, Madeline, Thomas Matt hot takes chambers. This is Dave walk were thank you guys for tuning into this very first Falco hall at crossfire. Favorite guys send us your feedback lists, not think about it. Any ideas you may have topics you wanna see debated in the near future. We plan to crank these out during the season as well and guys. Thank you for listening. We'll talk with the next time. We plan to crank these out during the season as well and guys. Thank you for listening. We'll talk with the next time.

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Quick Jam #12: The Not Good, The Bad & The Pressers

Bleeding Green Nation

06:09 min | 1 year ago

Quick Jam #12: The Not Good, The Bad & The Pressers

"Support for this podcast comes from. Microsoft. Teams. Now, there are more ways to be a team with Microsoft teams bring everyone together in a new virtual room collaborate live building ideas on the same page and see more of your team on screen at once learn more at Microsoft Dot com slash teams. Did you. Miss Me. Did you miss the J. J. D.? While I'm here. So let's get involved I am Michael. Kissed. This is quick jam episode, Twelve Big News. Small portions and we've got some Eagles News and press conferences to talk about this morning. So some Expresso, let's get it going I stop. It's been a pretty depressing week for the Eagles after the thirty seven to nineteen loss to the rams in their home opener and I'm not here to sugarcoat anything. So in Doug, Peterson makes an excuse. Like the one, you're about to hear I. got a kick back a little bit. This is what he said to reporters on Monday about Carson Wentz. His early season struggles. You know. I. Can I guess you can point point to a lot of different things missing not as not having all the all the necessary maybe Webster Training Camp Missing preseason games whatever it might be the timing of of things that we do in the passing game And just you know just just missing these throws their throws that. He typically would catch her or throw, and then it's you know a little bit too on the receiver sometimes receivers need to. Make the catches well so as things that we got to continue to work so do the eagles have different off season than everybody else are quarterbacks younger and less experienced than whence having success cuyler, Murray, Joe, Borough Lamar Mahomes Josh Allen Justin Herbert didn't know he was starting for the charters until ten minutes before the game and he had a better game went. So in short stop treating us like we're suckers doug, it's getting old the team is dead last offensive Devi. Away, Purple Ball outsiders dead last offensively the worst offense in the league. I'm NAS. Now, if you're looking for a better answer to a question from reporters, I've looked defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz look. You're upset with them. I'm upset with them. We'll talk about that more in a second, but here's some accountability regarding the defensive failures on Sunday. Well, what happened on the field was was I had a poor game plan. We had very simple game plan. You guys noted the rams use a lot of. Tempos out of their huddle in a lot of different motions and things like that, and the whole sort of theme was to try to make it as simple as we could, and we've had success with that in the past in an effort to do that, our show created a lot of conflict. With what the guys were were doing. And gave them a lot of stuff to look at. And what I thought would make it easier. Didn't make it easier made it harder and looking back on it. I. Mean I came right in after the game and watch a watch watch the tape. I really should have had a more complex game plan and it sounds it sounds funny to talk about. But a more complex game plan would've narrowed. The focus of each individual player would made it more difficult to execute, but it would've narrowed the focus and I. I think that you know we could have done that we went to that after about three series we made a low rally, but it was it was too late. And I, take that on myself. It's my job to put the players in good positions and particularly in the first three series I didn't do a good enough job at doing that. So I give Jimbo. Some for that. Now, let's tear that down. Right. The defense that Jimbo schemes that Jimbo calls that Jimbo built that Jimbo has tremendous influence over in terms of the personnel, decisions and roster construction that defense is a dud thirty, two points. Allowed on average through the first two games in the season, and it's stacked with big time contracts can the defense get right against Joe? Borough and the Cincinnati bengals stay tuned to find out on this episode of argue coordinating like a fifth grader. It's been about three minutes and we haven't talked about an eagles injury yet but you knew that could only lasts a long my parents who negative I feel like I'm being too negative but. It Sucks Isaac see a Malu is hurt and it's hard to say that with a smile as such. Amal has been placed on short term injured reserve with a knee injury that he suffered on Sunday, which means you'll be out for at least three weeks in his absence. It was Matt prior coming in at left guard and it looks like it'll stay that way prior has a chance to earn some burn after losing the competition with. Nate big for the right guard spot. Now, what happens if there's another injury on the offensive line is at Jordan my lot as the backflip tackle and Jack Driscoll backing up. Blaine. Johnson at right tackle. Hopefully, we don't have to find out and turns of the interior depth. It is now Suo Beta and John Brown who would see the field. If one of the interior linemen go down in other news, it was reported Monday that free. Agent running back Devante Freeman visited the eagles over the weekend, and obviously as you're hearing this on Wednesday, you know that he left without a contract he then visited the New York giants who are looking for a running back after the unfortunate ACL tear for saquon Barkley and it was reported on Tuesday that the giants do intend to sign Freeman. He still has to pass a physical but for now, it's looking like a done deal is. A great opportunity for Freeman and a downgrade but a smart signing for New York or hoping that Freeman is back healthy and can show up what made him a top ten back back in two thousand, sixteen plenty of content coming your way on the speed as we move on from the rams debacle and prepare yourself. What hopefully is a get right game against Cincinnati. Make sure you're subscribed and leaving five stars. Special shouts to Black Steve. As our chef, Vermont birds be the G. G. R. Louis H Arthur hells rig jake's wash and Brandon Brooks for the written five star reviews on Apple podcasts and a big thumbs down to Hollis. Thompson. Bud Stop spamming the reviews and take a walk. But I appreciate the advice that I will absolutely not take into consideration that does it for quick jam. Hopefully you enjoyed and even if you didn't go dominate and add your yourselves a day. G.

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'Valentine's Views' podcast: 49ers-Giants preview

Big Blue View

35:30 min | 1 year ago

'Valentine's Views' podcast: 49ers-Giants preview

"Podcast listeners, we are amazing avenue, the espy nation New York mets site I'm Chris McShane, and every week, Brian Salvator and I discussed the current state of the mets Automated Avenue Audio. The show we try to look at the mets from a somewhat logical point of view and not get too deep into panic city. We also answer your emails, give weekly music recommendations and try not to get too frustrated with the team. You can find the show on Apple podcasts on stitcher on spotify wherever you get your podcasts and let's go mets. Hello giants fans, and welcome to a new edition of the Valentine's US podcast here on Big Blue Radio part of your SP nation family of podcasts I'm your host Ed Valentine of Big Blue View and today's show is coming to you on Friday September twenty fifth as your own to giants get ready to host the defending NFC champion San Francisco Forty niners on Sunday at metlife stadium. Another difficult game against the top tier opponent for the giants. So another difficult task for for the fighting Joe Judges as they try to get the first victory of the Joe, Judge Era as head coach of the giants won't be an easy task giants are I believe a four point underdog at least that's what the spread was the last time I looked at it. A couple of things for you today will be we'll have a little bit of audio for you. A little bit later in the show from new giants running back devante Freeman signed this week to try to help mitigate the the loss of star running back. saquon Barkley will also play for you a an interview that I did with former NFL cornerback and current host of of a podcast called believe in forty niners on the believe podcast network Eric Davis, very informative interview as we broke down a lot of things about the game talked about a few of the intriguing giants players as well. So stay tuned for. For both of those things for the freemen audio and Davis interview a little bit later in the show thought, we would talk a little bit first about the Devante Freeman signing that obviously is the big news of the week giants going out and getting a highly productive veteran running back you know to to help in re try to replace Saquon Barkley as the giants try to to construct a competent offense without their best player. Listen you know my take on the freemen signing is this is a move that I like very much. You Know Freeman is twenty eight years old. There is the distinct possibility that he may not be the player that he was. You know a couple of years ago. He's a two time pro bowl running back. Obviously you coming off last year, which was his sixth year in the NFL had a career low in yards per carry may not be the dynamic player that he once was, but Freeman is still a quality player. Die Who's used to carrying a heavy workload a guy who has the reputation of being a good runner being a guy who can pass protect being very useful backfield as well can do a lot of things in in one of the points that I wanted to make into in the in terms of the freemen signing well, two points I wanNA make first of all it's very inexpensive deal for the giants. It's really not that above you know league minimum for a veteran on a per game basis. Most of his one year three, million dollar contract is in playing time and performance incentives so. If he reaches those numbers you know in playing time carries you know in making a pro bowl, those kinds of things if he reaches those things, that's good thing for the giants because. Then he's giving them performance. He's giving them production that they can really really need, and another point that I wanted to raise here is that signing a veteran like devante Freeman here. Is Not taking snaps away from a young developing up and coming player. The giants have a lot of those kinds of players you know dotting the roster all across the roster as a matter of fact, but one place where they don't have anyone like that is at running back, they have a veteran in Dion Lewis. Then they have Wayne Golman and I know that people get attached to Golman he's a a former giants draft pick he's in his fourth year he had a decent season as a rookie back in. Two thousand and seventeen. But really Goldman is a guy who didn't get much opportunity during the Pat Shurmur era. You know he was inactive last week for the giants the week the Barclay got hurt. Goldman really is just a guy and I hate to use that term. You know when when we talk about NFL players but he's an adequate average running back at best there's nothing special about Wayne Gaughman as an NFL player he's in his fourth season in the NFL, my gas at this point is that Goldman probably is not a giant twenty twenty one. You know that's jumping way ahead but gelman is not exactly a young up and coming player who needs snaps to to develop or improve. Hope that Goeman in whatever opportunities he gets you in Barclay's absence I hope he does well I. Hope that that he produces that that his play you know more or less forces the giants to put him on the field a little bit more often but he's not exactly a first or second year up and coming player who has to have snaps at this point to get better he's not exactly a guy who's going to be part of their future. I just don't look at him as A. As what you would call an upset coming player. So devante Freeman is not going to be you know quote unquote holding back wing Allman or taking snaps away from from a guy who who should be you know developing and could be part of the giants long-term future. What devante Freeman is is a giant for is really what you have to remember is it still all about the development of Daniel Jones Pence adding a running back like Devante Freeman Helps Daniel Jones development. It gives Jones another option in the backfield. It gives him a guy who. who were told as an experienced pass protector a guy who we've seen if you've watched falcons, Games over the years we've seen can be effective as both a runner and as a receiver. So the more weapons, the more options that you give the giants offense, the better it is for Daniel Jones. The better chance he has to continue to develop and become the kind of quarterback that the giants are going to need if they're going to be a winning football team down the line. So I have I have no problem at all with the freemen signing I like it very, very much. We'll see how much he gets on the field Sunday against the forty niners probably not going to be a whole lot. His first practice was Wednesday and it. It's hard to imagine that he will be that he's in good enough shape and that he'll know enough of the giants playbook to to be on the field for more than a handful of snaps for more than than some very specific packages that the giants might have in mind where they can where they can use him. All right giants fans. Let's do this right now let's play a couple of minutes of audio from Freeman talking to to New York media on Thursday. This liked to everyone is You know it's a lot of ball f you know a lot of. Games to be played Unfortunate and blessed to be on his team and. This is a young team and. I'm happy about the opportunity. And I just think you know there's a Lotta a Lotta growth for teen for myself and. I'm just here to help contribute as much as I could and. Be a part of this team and. You know just come in and. Do, do do my best and just. Help out these guys much as I could That's I think that's the main thing. I'm still I mean I feel like I have. I'm a I'm a football. Don't go nowhere. No, you just get older. And I feel like it's all up to you take care of your body you you keep maintenance on your body and You know you could be young's you WANNA be they know? This Agata WanNa come in and contribute as much as I could and work hard and. Gained these guys respect and trust and You know just what whatever I'm asked to do you know. Do it to the best of my building. And just continue to take advantage of the opportunity and. I think that's the most important thing. I just think a lot of situations didn't fit me and fit what I WANNA do and. You know what I had in some of my own personal goals are came and I still like I know us have a lot the tank and I just WanNa, go out and play football and a half are and this was a great opportunity at the right time and you know I just you know coming in trying to. Compete and you know work to get a job and just continue to get better. any opportunity I get I want to attribute it. Don't matter about the snaps. Is this when I get in there what I would opportunity you know, and that's what I wanNA. That's how I want you. Right. Now let's take a short break for a word from our sponsors here at SP nation. When we come back, I will be talking to former NFL player and current host of the believe in forty niners podcast Eric Davis. Support for this podcast comes from CDW HP. CDW, we. Get an unsecured laptop confront your company's data at risk making you a little paranoid I'm not paranoid. You're paranoid. 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For NFL player and host of the believe in forty niners podcast on the believe podcast network Eric Davis Eric Thank you very very much for coming on the show. Oh. Thanks for having me man appreciate Dan by so we're talking we're talking forty niners giants coming up this Sunday and You know interesting game really with the with the forty niners having to travel to metlife stadium two weekends in a row. How weird is that by the way that they have to come? To the East Coast Same Stadium. Two straight, weekends. Well I. Mean it's happened before. I remember when I was playing with the niners. We opened. I think in ninety one, we opened up with the giants and we ended up playing the AFC east that year. So we we had the we had the giants and then we went home play New Orleans, and then we had to fly out of Buffalo. And play them, and then we came right back and played the flew back the plate a jet. So it was like going across the country you know the the the entire first month or two of the season seems like we were flying back and forth across the country but unlike these guys you know we were flying back across the country. These guys are just saying they stay on the East Coast. They've they've done that since Shanahan has taken over that he they tend to stay on the east coast whenever they have that type swing, it shouldn't bother them too much. They don't have to worry about the jet lag. All right. So let's so let's talk about this team. Obviously. This team is beat up and I WANNA talk. First of all, you know the giants have a couple of big injuries of their own. And the forty niners website on our network is niners nation and I asked their writer. His opinion on this question so I'll throw it out for you here as well. Bigger loss saquon Barkley for the giants Nick Bosa for the forty niners. Nick Bosa. The forty niners reason being Let's let's be realistic about it. were the giants in contention with Barclay to win a championship. Rattling I don't think. So with Bosa, the niners were in contention to win a championship. a healthy Bosa gives you. He definitely keeps you in the mix of that. Now that doesn't mean that you can't get production from multiple sources to try and do. To do what he did and give the the impact that he could bring. But if you're if you're just going apples for apples for those two players, it's a much bigger loss when you look at The really the objective of the season and I don't think the giant afford everybody wants to win the championship of course. But but you also gotTa have the dudes to do that and I don't think the giants realistically even which Saquon have the pieces to win a championship right now. So I I gotTa go both Are So let me ask you. You know obviously, you apples for apples. On a normal Sunday. What the giants have on their roster right now doesn't match up to what the forty niners have. I'm looking at Sunday though with all the injuries that they've got all the running backs down there missing d Ford is well as as Bosa they're missing Solomon Thomas obviously. Are they somewhat vulnerable coming into metlife on Sunday? I mean, is this a game? Although they probably shouldn't win it. Is this a game that the that the giants might be able to sneak in and take? Well. Of course, because you have to play the game number one. Full strength both rosters nine have the better roster guys are injured now. So how were those how those reserves going to play? How? What is Robert Solid GonNa. Do we were just talking about Nick Bosa? You still need that production from the defensive line for your defensive for your defense to be a the the defense data it is drawn up to be. That's the way their defense is built is built off their defensive front. So you gotta get that production where's that GONNA come from? What are you GonNa do how are you going to get pressure on a quarterback offensively. Shanahan likes to run the football. You have a lot of injured running bags, his his top tier guys that he goes into his game playing with when he reaches into his bag, they're not there where are you going to get? Where are you going to get that production the quarterback situation you may possibly be playing with your backup Comfortable. Do you feel what are the expectations of him even though Muller's has been in the system? So is there vulnerability? Yes. Of course, it's a road game on top of that. It's hard to win on the road in the NFL, even without the crowd, it's still it's it's tough to. Do So is there is there a chance of course there is this is football. It's hard to win a football game and the niners are in a situation. Now to wear, they have to find a way to get through these weeks until they get healthy and that's and that's every team every year good teams are always going to have to deal with that. Hell. The saints lost drew drew brees early on last year and Teddy Bridgewater was able to come in and keep things going and that's what you have to have. That's one of the nine is all right now. So yes, there there is I I don't expect it to happen. I really don't, but there's definitely that chance that some guys don't perform up to the standard. What? I don't know how closely you've looked at the giants how much you've actually studied them but. From what you from what you do know about the giants? What do you think of this team? What do you think of the direction that this team is going in? I? Mean you maybe The possibility that this team might finally. Be Be hitting a point where it could be going in the right direction. I think he's going into right direction It's now you gotta just put the pieces together. You you have this running back this special running back and even though he hurt his knee, but he'll be back you fix those things and come back stronger now so he'll be back. you gotta get an offensive line that can work with him. You have a quarterback that I actually think is kate I mean he's talented enough to be the guy he's mobile Armstrong enough. So it's a question of putting the pieces around him Defensively You have a few pieces and the question is getting others there again but that. That that starts upstairs. Stars upstairs and the giants are it's a good organization you go out you've decided that you you have a head coach that comes from a certain philosophy that happens to Mesh with the Maros philosophy so I think That's that's to me. That's the most important thing. When you talk about direction, it's not a quarterback it's not a player it's not a coach is now the scheme it's you what's your philosophy? How how do you plan on winning? What do you think necessary from from Your Front Office from Your coaching staff from your from your locker room what what beliefs do you have in what it takes to win I? Actually think the giants of have that going in the right direction, which means everything else will fall into place. You'll get the flares you'll find some guys. You'll find some diamond in a row you will get you will be. Surprised when you you draft that V six rounder Anne turn into an Albro. All of those things started to happen when you have the right philosophy and you start bringing in the guys that you think fit bet philosophy. Okay. So there are two players on this giants team that that I wanted to ask you about before I. Let you go and one. Is a guy who plays the position that you played and for me played one of the better games that I've seen a giants cornerback play in ages last weekend against the bears. I just want to ask you about James Bradberry because people I'm not sure people are still like. Well, he's good but he's that good. Is He a shutdown guy? What is he? How good is James Bradberry I actually think he's really good. I I. Had some I was talking to some guys back in Carolina about it and and they asked me what I thought about him and I said I think he's the best corner that the Carolina fans have had since I was there and they kind of looked at me and I was like, yes, I know that you had him and I know that you. Had Josh Norman but I'm just saying just consistent lay well rounded capable of doing everything that you need a coroner to do from me. You know he can play man he can play he can play zone he can play in space he can make can play press coverage knows how to re concepts he he's a willing tackler. Things that that the the position requires he's he's consistently good at it and being consistently good gives you an opportunity to fall into some great plays. I liked him a lot. shutdown is. Really based on usage people always wanted road at term their shutdown corner and I say that about Richard Sherman, when he was with when he was with Seattle like, no, he doesn't match up but as far as usage goes from a defensive back from a defensive coordinator standpoint I can. I can set my defense off of what I know this is going to do. I know that this player is going to be able to handle the tough situations. I know that I can throw him in, give him shelter and safeties over the top and full people with disguises because this guy is a tight guy that I, I can leave alone Bradbury's one of those guys where you can build your you can build a defense off of it because he's one less thing to worry about and remember coaches are paranoid by nature. They worry about the what if and when you get to go out there and do something about it but the coaches are always worried about the what if so every time you have a player. That, you don't have to worry about. It makes life easier for that coach. bradberry is a guy. He he when you look at the eleven guys in the huddle you call defense you know okay. Let me think about the other chance that particular player I know he'll do his job and then you. So that's how you design defenses who cannot put in tough situations and I know I can get a win. You can get a lot of wins with him so. Just, keep watching him. You'll see the fans we'll see his he's a good player. He's pillar. All right. The other guy I wanted to ask you about obviously the giants lost saquon Barkley they're going to be missing sterling shepherd for a few weeks now. And I wanted to talk about about Ingram. A little bit. It looks like Evan Ingram is a guy that the giants are kind of going to have to feature. In their passing attack and giants fans get frustrated and they look at it and they think they think. Anger should be George biddle he should be you should be getting or putting up those kinds of numbers and I think they get frustrated. By the injuries first of all, but also by by sometimes the fact that he doesn't always produce the big numbers. For you you know how good of a player is Evan Ingram and and would you put him in the top tier of? NFL TITANS? What you did get into top tier. Are we talking talent or production of. For me to get into top tier about production and production. You mentioned some things that park it's partially health. because you have to be available to make those plays and then. A lot of it is scheme. What are you trying to do because you mentioned Ingram in the same light as kittle different being killed is the forty nine number one receiver. You wouldn't say that about England. The offense is designed with kid being the number one read on a lot of the plays he he's the guy that the quarterback is looking for when they have to move the chain. He's he's that guy and I said I've said that for a few years now when everyone liked the forty niners Neto number one receiver I'm like they have one. They he is their thousand yard receiver so. Hills there's no player wants to get her you. You try to stay healthy but you gotta play the game. You'RE GONNA get injured the only way to not get hurt his to not play football you will definitely get hurt but now. how how is the offense going to be designed? The giants offense is not designed. Designed for Ingram to be that big play. Guy. You know 'cause you started this off this question you started off by mentioning Ingram this someone in there they expect them to make make big plays outside. Everybody's waiting for him to do more of that. So wanting wanting of layer to do something, it's it's re we go back to Bradberry when you talk about easiest shutdown corner. Well, that's not their their defense. That's how they designed their defense to have their corners erase guys. That's not what the giants do is the same you aren't you want your tight end to put up numbers like Kelsey you want him to put up numbers like Kit. you. have. To. Run Office. where he featured these guys, Jackie don't do that. The other thing I wanted to ask you about Ingram I. Think you're a good person to talk about this. I keep getting an gotten it for four years. Now, the why don't the giants make Evan Ingram a wide receiver question and I keep saying because he's not a wide receiver because he does, yeah, he might have that skill set. Maybe he can. He can split out into the slot, but he doesn't have any experience you know lining up and beating oppress off off the edge and and those kinds of things i. Explain to people. The difference really for a guy coming off the line of scrimmage playing tight end versus trying to get open as a wide receiver. You know man-to-man face up with a guy like you. well, the difference is working in space like that and working. You put Ingram out against the better corners in the league. It's a mismatch. And everyone thinks I'm talking about for the tight end because of the size is no, it's not the the corners are much better athletes. They are superior athletes for your quicker. your changes direction is going to be there because everyone's assuming that I have to get in and wrestle with this guy and and he can body me out like he's blocking the on the low blocking like he's posting me up on a low block and basketball where there's no football remember I can cover a guy never touching. I'm GONNA be quicker. I I'm going to if. If if it was that simple, you would have moved years ago Tony Gonzalez would've played wide receiver grow with play wide receiver. You don't do it because yes. Physically it looks like it would just be this easy mismatch but the guys are so much faster and quicker that they can outmaneuver these guys and the majority of the players are going to be made by the corner. You're GONNA when you put that end against a safety or linebacker. where the speed is is somewhat equal quickness somewhat equal. Now, the advantage goes to that tied in knows what he's doing and and athletically a lot of the times they are better that that you lose that athleticism advantage when you move outside of the numbers and you go against corners, that's why you don't move that guy he wouldn't be as effective you know. Just beyond guys get into hands on the bigger guy he is the easy and for me. Zammit. Isn't much much harder to get my hands on a guy who's my size because he moves like me he he's quick like me you give me a big tight him. Man I, meet on top of meat or top of me to put my hands on. Eric I appreciate a few minutes. Thank you very very much and you know I'm GonNa Post this podcast and people are still going to ask me why even Ingram doesn't play wide receiver. Probably. Probably. It's it's a lot harder than it looks trust me. It's a lot harder to play wide receiver in the NFL than than than people. Think it is because you are you gotta get away from some really good athletes out there. All Right Hey, thank you very very much and maybe we'll talk to you again. Take care. Alright giants, fans that was former NFL cornerback in current host of the believe in forty niners podcast Eric Davis says, we broke down Sunday's giants forty niners contest for you are thanks again to what to Eric for coming on. Before we sign off today giants, fans just wanted to. Wanted to give you my my pick for. Sunday's game. If you've checked out our weekly staff picks and big blue view, you already know this if you've checked out the the look ahead podcast which I do on. Thursdays on the part of the espy nation. NFL. Show our Thursday episode called the Look Ahead With Rob Stats Carreira you already know what might pick is for this game. If you haven't seen the pick on either of those platforms Ah let you know here. Now I'm going with the giants I'm looking for looking for the upset on Sunday as of said in other places and said when when I was talking to to Eric Davis the under normal circumstances, I wouldn't pick the giants roster their talent level at this point in time just doesn't match up to the forty niners on on what you might consider a level playing field I just think that. That the giants have an opportunity here with the forty niners being. So banged up with injuries having such a long injury list. With you know Nick Bosa D Ford? Solomon. Thomas Richard Sherman probably not having Jimmy Garoppolo having their top two running backs probably, not able to play their injury list for for the forty. Niners is so long and the circumstance of coming back to metlife stadium for a second week in a row is is so different I and You know we know that the forty niners complaint so much about the metlife stadium turf. I. Can't imagine that they're thrilled about playing there again this particular, Sunday. I just think that that this is a game where I feel like the forty niners are vulnerable I feel like it sets up as it game where the giants could pull off an upset and I'm going to pick the upset here. So I'M GONNA go with the giants in this game We'll see if we'll see if they proved me wrong every time I seem to pick the giants to come in and pull off an upset in recent years. I wind up with egg on my face I wind up being wrong about that. But we'll. We'll see if if things finally begin to turn around and we'll see if I end up being right that the giants can pull off a surprising victory here on Sunday or a giants fans. Thank you very very much for listening. 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AP Laboratory - Offseason running back conversation  (Ep. 134)

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AP Laboratory - Offseason running back conversation (Ep. 134)

"People do amazing things every day and yet most of us feel like we can't do our taxes ourselves it doesn't make any sense. Turbo tax believes that with the right tools. Encouragement people can do anything. Yes even taxes and with turbo tax live you have access to CPA's on demand who are available even on nights deacons begins to answer your questions or give you advice to help. Make sure you do your taxes right and get your best possible refund turbo tax. All people are tax people. Everybody thanks for joining us today. This is the AP laboratory we are going back to positional profiles. It's the running backs turned and some might say this episode doesn't matter they might be right but we're still going to do it anyway here to help me talk about the running backs from two thousand nineteen and look ahead to the future. My good pal. Find Him on twitter chief in Carolina Mattie Lane. Hello my friend. How are you today? I'm doing pretty good. I'm preparing to prepare myself mid to late for this running back position review because it's kind of like the twenty twenty chiefs for Agency class like if you blink real quick. They're just not even there and so we're also joined by about Greg. Stout fight about twitter barley up. I know he's negate into some offenses skilled positions such as running. Back cy onto that Bob. This is my least favorite episode. Yet guys over the free agency RECAP RECAP Mattie. Let's get into it. I WanNa talk about running backs. Are we see them in our mentions all the time I think the mocks? She's gives some give running fair do let's do it. Let's do it and hey running backs I still. I still have a little bit of love for him. He would go to two thousand nineteen chiefs. We go ahead and we look at them. We look at the running back position and then the second half the show. We're going to look into the future. The outlook for the for the future in the draft picks and free agency and all that good stuff so first off Craig. How do the running backs do this year? They did well. I mean considering the investment that was put into the position it was pretty low. Shawn McCoy was added. He made a little bit of money. But frankly Damian Williams was very good in his role. He did exactly what he needed to that. Got A lot of out of Darrell. Who's got some out of Spencer? Where like for the amount of money that they put in the amount of assets or the lack of assets that they put into it. They actually did pretty well at the position. I think you saw differ guys at different times of the year kind of takeover. The chiefs showed their abilities. Different skill sets at running back. Lesean McCoy fake was definitely the best runner to start the season that he was able to be a little bit more patient Better vision some of the other guys so he started out here. What can a little better and as we went on he kinda faded but then we dare Williams. For a couple of games Damian Williams decided to be healthy and show up so it was just nice to see the ebb and flow throughout the entire season. Somebody who was always willing to step up and while say the chiefs running backs by themselves were never like that special like nothing about any of the performances ever great. It was always good. It was always good enough to help. The offense go along at no point in time. Was I ever just like itching? Thank running back was where this team needed to make another step. Yeah I mean overall if you look at the overall body of work it's a weird mixed bag and you know I was watching. I've been watching games just like the thirty minute short. Condensed broadcast version of games. At night of of this season the Shawn McCoy was good earlier. In the year like legitimately good and had some burst in some sudden is to him. It was making moves in space in. Like what happens. Sean Spicer. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA get there. I'm sure but like I mean this this it's been. It's just been a weird year for running backs and the thing is in a weird year. Where there wasn't a ton of consistency. They want super bowl well. It was the biggest surprise. Mattie surprise is the amount of people still think you need to add more running back talent to this group of players because I think you just saw the cheese running back like we said. The talent was pretty mediocre. And it really didn't matter especially what's Patrick mahomes passing offense going. You could probably put any one of us back there in. Come out with some level of production. That wasn't terrible. That's just what a good offense and a good passing attack does for a running game like I said. I'm just surprised that so many people think that you need any league running back in this offense to produce my biggest surprise is Damien Williams. Run through the playoffs. I mean he really had kind of a harder. Stay healthy staying. You know had some consistency issues throughout the season and then when the when the playoffs hit he was outstanding and you know it was ultra productive in the run game in the past game Had A fantastic super bowl. It was awesome to see is good for him in the back next year. That's great but I mean that was. It was a really nice run in the end of the year. For for Damian Williams mind is Darrel Villarroel will. I'll tell you what they got enough out of him to really justify his roster spot before he got injured. I know he wanted to be there at the end of the year that he felt like he was healthy enough to contribute at the end of the season. But Darryl actually look really good through the middle of the season there got a couple of games run and showed that he's actually worth a spot. I think that that's that should give some people some hope. I know. We're getting into that pretty soon here but I really liked what we got to see. Daryl Williams a little bit surprised with what we'd seen kind of last season and a little bit in this preseason all right biggest disappointment I think my big. I'm disappointed in Leshan McCoy for saying something so terrible about Eric. Be Enemies mom that for some reason. He just got thrown into the doghouse. I I don't understand that completely. There was obviously some kind of dynamic behind the scenes. If you read between some of the lines with the press conferences and and all that stuff the dillashaw McCoy saga was fascinating. Because we heard you know. I remember the first time he was an active and it was load manage but then you fast forward to Miami and the chief serve managing his load for twenty twenty one when he's signs with the Cincinnati. Bengals like I. It's just it's bizarre. I the whole thing was a weird especially as how good. He was running the football early in the season I The biggest disappointment for me is that's been aware was once again unable to stay healthy even coming in a little bit bigger a little bit heavier maybe not quite as explosive dynamic. You've got to see what he brought to this team. In terms of pass protection understanding the offense and Helping Keep Patrick Mahomes upright there. When pat needed that stability in the backfield their him getting hurt yet again and not being able to finish the season yet again. It's just a long line of injuries for him. Unfortunately so that was a little bit of a disappointment that he wasn't able to stay healthy and Kinda finishing help contribute near the end of the year. The hanes down biggest disappointment for the chiefs running back group in two thousand nineteen was somehow the nickname. Daryl the barrel catching on with felons and even if with us on this. Podcast is one of the worst nicknames ever for any player of any position besides a Rodeo clown in somehow it has stuck but realistically I think Arlen Thompson and noticing that he was a disappointment. I thought the cheeks were going to find better ways to use his particular skill set. I thought they were going to be able to scheme up. Better ways to get him into space to get him out of the screen game to disguises. Looks a little bit more and we just didn't as much of as I thought we were. GonNa get especially when the chiefs were flooded with injuries at the position and begging eighty-one any able by detail carries. They just couldn't really get him in space as much as I thought they were going to be able to. We have breaking news breaking news. Mike Panel has resigned with the Kansas City chiefs. Good on audio into it on twitter except made enough enemies notice free agency period but everybody was getting all reminiscent about the entire folk back and I always wanted to quote tweet every single person. Say why Pinellas better I wanted. I wanted to bring Mike. I wanted to bring my car Atari back. I wanted to bring them back. Let's bring them both back. I if if PAT got hurt we would need thirteen backup quarterbacks. That's the only thing we had done free agency up until today we talked about Jordan Tamou. Because we're talking about running backs a replaying Jordan. Tamou running back now. He could run. He can run all right. Let's give tax. Do we need to talk to Ed? Do we need to talk anymore about Michael later? It's good for the chiefs made sense to my cornell. I'm very excited that he's back. That's Awesome I. I don't know how they're going to do it. With five hundred fifty. Five thousand dollars cap space put. A move has to becoming at some point. Where were we reason for optimism at? Yeah that's where we are for optimism. Craig a reason for optimism. You got a lot out of a little investment Damian Williams is the perfect guy for this offense. He just fits everything that Andy Reid wants to do when he's healthy when he's playing this peak which is typically you know December January February apparently. That's the perfect time. Then you got a worker course back in the type of you know type off into Andy. Reid wants to run their so. In that regard you have him. You Have Darwin Thompson. You Have Daryl Williams. Frankly that's good enough for what Andy Reid wants to do. And the amount Andy. Reid wants to run the ball. Yeah for me. The the reason for optimism moving forward is you could go. You could play tomorrow with this group. No doubt about it and Damien Williams is back. They've they've actually included some good some good some good lottery tickets into this mix too. I really like what they've done. They've added Mike Weber who I had a fifth round great. I believe on in last year's Casey draft guide they added Elijah McGuire. Who has some pass catcher ability so like they've actually already given themselves a lot of good? You know lottery tickets in that group. They're gonNA have good competition. I mean they're going to get as much probably probably will get more out of the running back group this year or next year. Then they got out of it this year and without even having to try too hard. My biggest reason for optimism is wanted guy just talked about is Darwin Thompson was rarely used. He was only used out of necessity and I think he was. Just kind of put into the same situation that every other running backs So I'm excited to see him with another year in the office. Maybe it's like half a year given the weird circumstance. The world more time with the office more time with Andy Reid. How are they GONNA use him? Can he explained? Israelite Kelly's is the runner. He's a hard tough physical runner for his size. I want to see if his role can grow in twenty twenty and see if he just starts to become more of a focal point if an offense or at least a heavy rotated piece all right current current twenty twenty outlook. You've got Damian. Williams you've got Daryl the barrel Williams I started that Mattie by the way Darwin Thomson Mike Weber. Elijah McGuire Good Solid Group Rolling into twenty twenty. Mattie deed will just be pencilled in as your starter. I mean I think at this point in time you have to be a little worried going through his entire body of work that he can be a bell. I don't even know if he can be. You're running back one at the two headed monster just because the workload seems like it does get to him year after year but he's a good guy to have. It is kind of your lead back to start. I just think during different ways. You're going to have to rely on Daryl Williams Darwin Thompson. I would like to see Michael. Ever get a chance. I don't love him in the open field but I think he's pretty solid until he gets there and sometimes that's all you need at the NFL level to be positive play. I'm I'm with Mattie there. I think that this group is good enough like I said in the previous one was. There's reason to be optimistic because of this group already in place. You don't have to go out. Spend big money on getting a guy to do the sorts of things that Andy Reid wants to do. This group can do it so it's good. It's a really good outlook. They just won the super bowl with it that got to retain it and got good production out of it. It's not like the linebackers where they were poor and got poor production. They actually got good production out of the running backs Craig before we take a break. I just want you know you said breaking news and it you know Mike Pinellas awesome. I'm very excited to have him back. I thought we were getting something like even more big than that. I'm sorry the defensive. 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Hp officejet pro printer and HP instant INC that's HP DOT com slash. Get real all right. We are done looking at two thousand nineteen at the running back position. Now we look ahead to the future and we're going to look at some free agent fits we're going to look at some draft fits draft crushes. And we're going to start with a top tier free agents at the running back position. We're going with Devante Freeman. Mattie devante Freeman might be a year too removed from really being a top to your guy in Cuba. That's okay for for what's left. We are deep into free agency now. So you're not going to have a top. Few guys left. Devante Freeman Clearly top tier of the guys that are less he very much does fit the scheme he worked really well outside zone runs. He's not the most patient or kind of like flea foot rudder but when he stretches his own out and he sees a cut-back lane. You'll wait for when the opened up when he sees he darts through it in a hurry he gets loaded the ground like I do think he would fit really well with what the chiefs like to do with the running backs. He's plus receiver. I do just want that. He is trending the wrong direction. Maybe change of scenery getting injected into a better offense can do wonders at this late in the process. You never know what a guy coming off. Another down injury riddled year. Do for like we're talking about top tier guys like if you look at the top tier of the respective of a top tier free agent I mean this is about what I think is probably a top tier free agent for this football team And it's not going to be a heavy investment. You're probably looking at a one year deal and you're just seeing what he has left because you know even ninety percent of what Devante Freeman has been in the bat in the past is a really nice quality piece to this offense and if you can get ninety percent of what Devante Freeman has been in the past. You're getting a dynamic piece to your offense and the price at top tears up probably one year six million dollars. I guess something along those lines i. It's worth noting. That devante Freeman had fifty nine receptions for four hundred ten yards and he got targeted seventy times. That's five point nine yards per target. That is more yards per target the Damien Williams had and we talk about him. Is this great receiving back? Devante Freeman in the right situation. Makes a Lotta Sense. He's not a home run hitter. In the same way that Damien Williams is so. He's not anymore at the very least. He's more of a grinded out. Guy Like matty said in these outside zone type runs trying to get some more of those tough runs by by using his vision and playing smart not the same guy but he is a guy that would make sense as they clump. Complimentary back to Damien Williams. Let's talk about mid-tier guys now and we're going to out breaking news. The chiefs have side Anthony Sherman to a one year deal in the running back conversation breaking news back toback segments baby. I really really really just want to skip over this. Because I don't want to blast the chiefs for wasting another year of John Lovett while we feel the pay with no cap space a worthless positional player that we don't use the cheese right. Knock it so. Let's just clap. Our hands silently for another fullback. That is gonNA waste money on the roster. Replace specialties. How that sounded charged. It's the running back position sitting on it and I was sitting on it because I saw it already and I was hoping it wasn't gonNA come up. Leroy had it first yesterday by the way but now Tarez has as announced that is happening chiefs. Are we on deal and right now? You guys are deals invaded. This is somewhere. They have five hundred fifty. Let's just pause five hundred fifty five thousand dollars cap space. Another move has to come is it. L. D. T. Is it Sammy? Watkins are are they finally. Here's one thing that could be. They might maybe they finally restructured Sammy. Watkins this is just a yes. They finally restraint or Sri Structured Sammy Watkins because the market has been set by Robbie Anderson. Perhaps think about it. That's not bad that's not bad. There's logic to that. I wouldn't agree with that. There's logic to that or some team already traded Sammy Watkins now. Nobody's traded Sammy Watkins after Robbie Anderson. We're billion dollars or Sante traded for somebody else or some teams. I try not to bring up Chris Jones. Okay yeah okay. Sure you did ninety. I don't know they sound. Something's got to happen here now. I mean something does have to happen here now. They if something's coming they've pushed it all the way. They've held their car. They've held their cards to the vest this entire like off season. They've had literally like well. Not chump change because five hundred. Fifty thousand dollars is a lot of money. I could deal with that right now but I mean this a competitive. Yeah maybe by the end of this pod. We're going to have more answers. I don't know it's very fitting that in the running back pod we spend all this time talking about how running back. Don't matter that we are consistently interrupting the podcast for other things running back related. We interrupted it. Well one of them is running back related. It's related special teams related and nothing else. I really don't get the whole Anthony Sherbet and that is really going to upset like several people that listen to this show. Oh yeah I I made people upset with that and I apologize guys but that was the raw unedited reaction to sing that money on a full back to play taper set of offensive snaps special teams. Dave Tobe is having himself in off season boy. We need to get through this so we can't talk to okay Back to your regularly scheduled programing mid Tier Chris Thompson. A Chris Thompson. You're grabbing him. Because he's got quality pass catcher traits and he's a very good pass catching running back you can flex them out. He's very versatile in that regard and that's really is value and I think you could probably get him at a decent rate. It's not going to be. I mean honestly all these running backs. You're not going to be spending much on running backs. What Melvin Gordon? Get EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS. Eight million dollars. Ap Y yes on a one year deal no two year deal. Oh good for him. I it's it's it's still a little. I mean the cheese could probably afford it still. Somehow I think Kris Kristofferson makes allowances as a pass catching back. Yeah he definitely does. And that's basically all he is at this point you don't want him rounded the ball he just hasn't looked good run the ball and he hasn't gotten the opportunities do so because he has a good run in the ball but he's still catches the ball pretty well. I'd flies him out a little bit. He's coming offer some down year so he's certainly cheap now like you can probably get him in this rotation for next to nothing and who knows maybe you make him. Look good in the preseason. And you're able to trade him to Bill O'Brien because bill. O'brien needs many running backs as possible. Any first round pick fitting around Chris Thompson was just purely receiving guys he was. He came off the big bad back injury to get into the NFL. He finally started. Look like he's turning it on a little bit. There in Washington in The Washington redskins did their Washington redskins thing. He was a little bit injured again. So thrilled to tell what you have with him. But as far as a guide to the Flyer later free agency that would probably cost next to nothing. Bring him in Chris Thompson Electric running receiving running back on healthy. Give them a chance. He can actually split out by real rows at times two. So He'd be a lot of fun to the offense you just after opie stays healthy all right. Let's go ahead and look at the best. Free agent fit now and Mattie. We're going with Corey Clement. Yes so another Wisconsin running back here that we were just talking about end. He's been with Philadelphia. I don't think he's been particularly good coming in with anything. The Eagles have done but he's been buried behind some other running backs. They felt the need to always get somebody. Maybe two guys ahead of them. But anytime he's been forced the playtime. He's looked pretty good. He may not be the best pure runner out there right now especially with the Way Philadelphia kind of used them but as a receiver. I think we can all remember making some plays leading up to the Super Bowl. The Super Bowl. He made some plays in receiving game. Actually getting down fields or just he's shown flashes stuff that makes them useful for current style. Nfl team which the chiefs very much are. I think he'd be again. Another fun guy that would cost next to nothing to bring in that can affect the game on the ground and through the air. Dan He's actually a pretty decent returner as well. That's another guy. Another reason that he could fit in there into this rotation and again coming off of a very poor year. He's going to be ridiculously cheap. So that's a guy that you can just bring you into the mix head him compete with Mike Weber. Have Him Kinda rushing running in here with that fourth spot? He just makes a lot of sense. Because he's GonNa run an Andy Reid style offense. He's going to come in. No the terminology know what he needs to do to get on the field and so he's a guy that can maybe look good and camp and you can see kind of building up any of these often throughout the year. Do they sign somebody? Craig no I just don't think that they do. I think that they've got enough guys in the room that they like. I think that they genuinely do like Mike Weber. I mean if they sign a guy it's going to be maybe late in Otas or training camp whenever that's going to be now I think it might be just a camp body that we get to see here. I don't think that they're going to go out and make any moves. Particularly since guys like Melvin. Gordon Todd Gurley that maybe could move the needle on the ground. A little bit more are completely off the market. I think that was the only real chance to make a move was gonna be a guy like todd. Gurley or Melvin Gordon. If you could find them on a one year deal really cheap it essentially just rent them to plug and play them into the offense like he did with Shawn Mccoy since anyone of that caliber. Besides maybe freemen's out there. He would be the oldest guy. His precious keeps falling that. I think I could see following that mold but if not him I just don't see happening. I don't think they're bringing in more guys to battle to be part of her rotation. Yeah if anything substance. And they shouldn't and they've got enough in the building they can continue to add lottery. Tickets income away with the quality group by the end of the offseason. And Yeah they might be able to trade somebody for Bill. O'brien to I'm here to to Bill Brian as well. I mean because that's just it's it's theft. It's just delicious our rights. Let's look at the draft now favorite prospects matthew. This was a surprise to anybody. Listen to us. Talk about the draft but Clyde Edwards. Hell air running back from. Lsu Guy throughout the entire s built like a tiny little bowling ball. They apparently has very good hops. Which I think surprised a lot of people but if you watch him play he definitely suits for a couple of steps in that. Top speed is not where he excels. He's definitely not the fastest but his vision combined with this balance and just his ability to make people miss or run through them in the open. Field is incredible. And that's not even what he does best. He's at his best as a receiver. He makes catches with his hands away from the body. He they had running the Texas or the angle rallied the combine that he just looks like he's on a different planet compared to every other running back. There's other good receiving running backs out there. Clyde Edward Tillers game not only fits the chiefs perfectly. But he's just so different than what you see out of most running backs these. He's just so much fun to watch bounce around off guys much bigger than them. Hit people a spin move after spin move like his be button stuck down on his playstation controller so I just had a lot of fun watching him and he just happens to fit the chiefs perfectly. I'm going with Antonio Gibson He's a guy that I'm a little bit higher than I think. Most people are and some people have been classified as a wide receiver. He's kind of a mixture of between the two. The senior will ask them to play running back and then at the. Nfl combine used plod receiver. I like him as a running back. I like the idea of throwing him in the running back room and letting him lean on some of his wide receiver passed to make him a more dynamic running back he because because I think he actually ran okay between the tackles when I saw him on. He has good contact balance. He's explosive but he's a guy that's like he's big six to win it the catch point two. So he's like he's a unique piece and you've got to come up with with a plan for his development. I think my plan for development would be running back because I think he can be good in pass protection. I think he can run between the tackles. He has good balance. He's got long speed. He ran a sub four four at the combine. He's also got special teams value. Dave tove is GonNa love this guy. He had three hundred eighty six all purpose yards. In one. Game he caught a touchdown touchdown touchdown and he returned along touchdown. He's a unique player. He's a he's a probably a four core special teams guy with potential to be a dynamic. Pass catching weapon in the offense as well yeah. I'm going Joshua Kelly. Ucla another guy. That's good between the tackles good enough vision. He didn't catch a whole lot of passes at Ucla but when we saw him at the senior bowl he was routing up some admittedly very poor linebackers out there but he was making him look really silly he honestly was the best looking running back that we got to see there. He just looked like a more complete back than the rest of the guys that we were seeing and that was a good thing to see because we frankly didn't expect him to be much of anything so he popped in a big way there plus he already called. Patrick Mahomes the best player in the world when we interviewed him so he's automatically on the board right now so bring me Josh Kelley. All right best fit in the draft for the Kansas City chiefs. And it is. I mean he would probably be all of our favorites Clyde Edwards Hilar-. Craig Yeah this is the guy that Joe Barreau said was what his favorite player to play with the smartest player. They'd be played with the one guy that he can bring with him to the next level like to the NFL team. He could take anybody off either one of his football team at Lsu or Ohio state. If you chose Clive Edwards. That is silly that I should tell you that kind of brains kind of it. If your quarterback like Joe Borough you need trust there in the pocket and he obviously trusted. Clyde Edwards hilarity. Do everything that he needed to do. Andy was a good runner. Like some teams going to over think clydes athleticism and caused him to drop. Let Him and let the chiefs pick him up. Frankly because I do not condone running backs early but I do condone Clyde Edwards Hilar- I don't Clai don't call Hashtag. Couldn't Clyde Hashtag Condone Clyde? I think I kind of said every piece I need to about Clyde Edwards layer being the best fit for the chiefs This I do not endorse drafting. Running back hardly ever if Clyde Edward hilarious sitting there staring at you in the third round a year the end of the third round. Pick Ninety six into like. Hey we have to pull the trigger year. That's fine out completely happy if you do it in the second round. I'm upset that you took a running back but give me one week in happy that he is on my football team. That's the most excited I will ever get for a running back being drafted. You could talk me into him at sixty three. I think and I am not pro running back. I don't think running backs matter all that much. But at his pass catching value. I think makes him a little bit more unique? And I think that's the thing is like when I'm looking in when I'm looking at running backs I'm really leaning on pass catcher traits and I'm projecting and I'm valuing based on their pass catching traits. He's good impact protection. He's really good as a route runner already and I think he can get better. I mean my guy caught a corner route flex down the slot and he's five foot. Nothing he runs good. I think matters time I was angle routes earlier. They're nasty. I mean you could talk about him at at the combine in real games. He is just breaking off. It's like he is. He's one of the most enjoyable players watching this entire class. And I do think I wonder if teams are going to over. Think him because of his athletic testing our day three sleeper. We're going to go with the Michael P Ryan out of Florida. And he's a big back that has pass catcher traits and has pass catching production and those are things that That Brett visas typically coveted the things that I little concern me about him. I his contact balance. I think should be better than what it is for a guy his size and I feel like he should have more contact bounce than he does and I feel like you should be better in pass protection and then he is at this point but I think a lot of what his issues are impasse protection or technical and if he just continues to work if he gets into Kansas City. Del Makola Eric Vietnamese Andy. Reid all cleaning clean some things up for him and they could really has some nice value as a big back that can catch football and has has experienced at already. Give me a thick dude that can catch the ball for two hundred and fourteen pounds. Nobody isolate that two hundred and fourteen. Pounds five eleven. I'd just I think that appearance guide. That makes a ton of sense for the chiefs because he can play again between the tackles there. He's he's already developed pass catcher. That's a situation especially late late late in the draft. There that you can get a little bit more of a steal. He's pretty decent athlete too. So I think he's a guy that could be a real good. Fit Nadiri dominance. Here's what I really like about. Michael P ride two years ago. Before his senior season he was definitely. They're bigger back there. Bruiser back as they had scarlet. Aaronson other guys. He decided he wanted to be more part of the passing game. He wanted to partake in the receiving game. He lost about fifteen pounds. Morgan do his senior year at. You can see in some of his runs. He clearly lost his contact. Balances Power to run through tackles but all of a sudden only one year focusing on his receiving ability because that was now enrolling needed. He became a good receiver for Florida. Like they used him. Allies receiver similar to Clyde Edwards. Hilar- he's running wide receiver routes. He's really good breaking off linebackers Move My main has overtaken enchants for a running back. You see that in the game. He snags passes out away from his body. I really like what he brings. His receiver unlikely said he's got a little bit size to him so he fits that mold that she's look for. I think he's only going to get better as receiver from where we're at right now. This is one year of really focusing on it as a baseline. So that's really exciting to me. All right that is going to do it for the running back review we'll be back with the AP draft show on Friday. We will catch you if there was a spreadable COOKEVILLE. Fake -able plant faced butter. That was better for your body and the planet. 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Make sure that we come away with a good practice and we can give ourselves a chance to abba chains sunday to go out and play and final leave. We are back here. Edit speak as certain in the building. I'm run the show show on the chiefs on arrowhead pride. I know you all talk bad about me. Because i missed one all right. Ten year anniversary. I was in the bay. Arrogant hammered hammered. I've i'm not a wine. Drinker wasn't a wine drinker. Before i went on this trip now changed. I've refined. I hated red wine now. I i love a good cabernet. Sal i love that now. That's my. That's my wine of choice. I've got just i'd meet so i made so many glasses of red wine. I enjoyed it so Yeah you could beat me up but why do you wanna go away for ten years wife against to go away for ten years. I don't know we'll be that in the next ten years. Probably a bad decision. When i got married the first week of september. That probably should have been something that came down my mind but you know she wanted get married nine ten eleven so we had. But i'm so you're telling me you didn't even race jack easterby. You missed our first week of the podcast for the nfl season and you didn't even race. Jack easterby jack scared he's He's he's scared. I've i've tried to raise him in ten twenty thirty forty. He's refused So jack jack scared. And that's that's what this thing is about and i'm going to try to pressure him in peer pressure him into racing me don't think he will but Not my fault that he's scared and after acu after that week one performance from that squad from the houston. Texans tyrod taylor baby feel like talking about it. I don't wanna talk i. I've talked out of that. Thirty seven points they. They scored moore's than the chiefs. They scored more than the chiefs on sunday. So that's that is a weird thing. But but let's get on this all right. The chiefs wanna know the raven. Somehow self-destructed against the raiders And lost their own once on their desperate guy. You don't want to go into this division. Let me tell you something real quick. Pk certa i in you. Can you can agree or not. And i know they're gonna be cheese fans. Say oh my god show curse gonna dixon. There's no way the ravens can beat the cheese ever ever It it can't happen. I mean obviously obviously injuries or something could occur Or they could have or lamar. Jackson can have some some night that we've never seen before. But i don't think so. This is to me one of those matchups. That are really really bad for the ravens. The ravens can beat teams that the chiefs could lose to like. I think we watched it sunday right. I think the browns are a team that could get the chiefs. But i could see the ravens given problems to the browns. They're physical and all of it but the ravens and the chiefs is the worst match for the ravens. The ravens are ever going to win a super bowl. They need somebody to beat the cheese for them because they can't beat them. Styles make fight and with the chiefs. What it's all about is you cannot get behind and if you get behind you gotta have somebody that has the ability to bring you back. And if you don't you're screwed and the ravens go and try to make decisions based on trying not to get down to the chiefs which plays right into the chiefs hands and as soon as they do that. That means lamar has to do things he can't do. And that's through consistently and that's why to me. The ravens will never beat the chiefs. It's interesting that you say never i. I don't. I don't know if i'm willing to go there with you. But i think their best chance to do so with probably in two thousand nineteen and the reason why i say that is because the ravens were running real hot in twenty nineteen and i'm just not sure they're ever going to run that hot again with lamar jackson as their quarterback and the reason why i say that is because in that season they were incredibly healthy. Lamar stayed healthy all year long. The offensive line had incredible annuity that year. Your receivers stayed healthy. For the most part that season mark ingram was the best version of himself. You had gus edwards for all sixteen games all of your weapons that you expected to have. And i'm not saying they were other-worldly weapons but all of the guys that were part of that offense have made it what it was. They were all available healthy and at their best in two thousand nineteen. We've already seen. That's not the case in two thousand twenty one. That was not the case for much of last season. The all the other quarterback this week and on offense like their offense of is decimated right now with injuries they could be without both guys that started at tackle for them last year. One of them's not playing for the chiefs. The other one very well may not play on sunday against kansas city. And you're looking at alejandro villanueva. Who was cooked on monday night. Football against the raiders. He's probably going to be playing left tackle for them on sunday. So when you say that the ravens can't beat the chiefs. I tend to agree for at least this year and i think in general there formula for win is just so limited against this team defensively. They love blitzing. They are the team that just they can't get enough of it if they've got a cover zero idea they're going to throw it at you and you saw that all game. Long against the raiders. Especially late in that game winning touchdown they went to it once again and when i cover zero. I mean nobody. That's over the top. No help or the top is just across the board and blitz and eight dudes typically well against the chiefs. Mahomes gonna dice you up if you decide to do that. You're going to have tyreek hill. And travis kelsey one on one. Okay good luck covering those two one on one and patrick was gonna find the open dude. He's gonna find the hot read and boom. It's over for you defensively. So they don't match up. Well defensively their offense if they do get behind as you mentioned does not have the ability to keep up with patrick moms at a shootout. Because they can't throw the ball that way. The ravens formula is very simple. They get the lead. They maintain the lead with their running game and against the chiefs. That is not a formula for success especially with the defense that they have. Could it happen if weird stuff happens from start to finish sure. Weird stuff happens sometimes in the nfl but in a typical game script now man. This is not the matchup that the ravens wanna see. I mean boys. We've watched the chiefs play. Bad games against the ravens and stay still with the game were pad had to patrick. It ended up throwing something crazy. Fourth-down pass to tyreek. They didn't play good that day. They still beat him and the ravens. Like you said man. They're just not built to play this team ever. I mean because what was it what was the first time they play. John harbaugh caves. We're going for every fourth down. And he was playing madden football. We're going for every fourth now and that's the kind of stuff that got to do. And then they play right into the cheese hands and next thing you know they just get punched in the face and it is fourteen to three. Or it's it's it's twenty seventeen to seven twenty one seven and now you gotta stop them every time and then you gotta score every time but then you gotta score the way that you don't score will and that is put lamar. Put the ball in the hands. I've saying this earlier this week. It inserted lamar to me. Is the nfl version of been simmons right like it. There's some things you can do to build around him. He's got some really really good scales. And i think you can win with them but the one thing that he seems to struggle with is that real important thing for his position and something that he hasn't improved a ton since he's been in the league then that's that like throwing the football thing you like throwing the ball outside the numbers like like i now. You have to get to at some point in the game for every quarterback especially with the office of line that the ravens are trying out there in the running backs. They're trying out there. Devante freeman has been reinstated. Good luck with that of eventually. It's going to be thirty eight thirty nine third and seven and lamar got adr bet consistently and make those throws a. Let me tell you something. My man came. And i want him to work. I want more a fan mostly at like him to get vaccinated. But that's another thing. I'm a fan when i would. I would love for it to work but it just can't. He's not going to consistently make those throws and then if he didn't do that twice that's probably fourteen points for the cheese. Let's the ball game. I i wanna get lamar jackson. I don't know why you just sideswipes devante freeman you know how many injuries the ravens backfield is suffered. How did he beat lady on that now badly. Fiat is apparently that you know the sort of question is just down for the early on buses down for the count. Apparently has no bisbee. Nfl roster sites that man here really asked why didn't levy on bell beat them out last. Exactly how devante devante doesn't have four arms like that's injuries coming up. He's kind of. There's no way he's going to get in the mix i. I don't think he's going to be no way. What are they gonna go with that. Todd williams looks good latavius. Mary have the touch on monday. England did you say look good. Are you just saying things. Like for twenty eight. Your on williams looks good. I is. Mary looks goes. Hey i created the fumble and miss the block that lead to them losing the game. I i don't know man like i don't care about those things as much. Maybe because i care about the explosive explosive ability that he had. I'll be damned sure that those coaching that coaching staff cares about that stuff. Like missingham block that leads to sacks. Yeah that's that's something that john harbaugh gonna care about thirty five yards on one kerry and he had sixty five for the game. So like i mean lips realit- in on something but they got a real in their expectations for him. He's the third straight groti back. What do you expect. You're not going to get much better out. Devante freeman but to the lamar point. I saw lamar at least in my opinion on monday night. Kind of carrying that ravens offense where he was getting no protection from his offensive line. He's down to his third. String running backs and sammy. Watkins is the best wide receiver that he's got on the rosser and mark andrews just didn't show up. I totally agree with you. That this raven seems cannot beat the chiefs and that the best team that had an opportunity to beat them was the two thousand nineteen because that was the best version of this ravens team. This team's just not in the same ballpark. Is the chiefs opinion. This is the thing that would lamar because like you. You're you're painting half the pitcher right like you're i mean you know. Lamar hit those two turnovers that you know that he likes to have because he's loose with the ball and then he probably could've turned it over multiple other times because he's loose with the ball and that that really hurt them like if he didn't turn it over they probably at least in here with a tie at the end of it but but just to win but but it's how they how he has to be carried. The ravens offense would be carried now. We're getting carried here. Lamar is up here. Around one hundred fifty one hundred twenty yards russian. And he's got a couple of play actions and he's gotten a hit hollywood brown or sammy list is beyond. Who knows if. Sam he's gonna finish this game but if he's got them down the field for deep balls he's easily. He's week one. We already know the story was saying. But that's a difference with lamar is how he's been able to carry them like in the against the chiefs. The odds that lamar is able to carry the team. The way they need him to carry them are gonna be slim because they're not stopping the chiefs. They're not stopping the chiefs as soon as beat up as soon as they get it. I mean like. I said i had another corner go down. Marcus peters already out for the season. I mean it's it's this just this matchup is just awful for them in every single way. So you mentioned the ben simmons competent. I apologize for not nba fans. You probably know this player though. I actually think there's another conflict makes more sense for him. I think is. I'll tell you why you're wrong now. Iran on it feels like it feels like this was actually going to be better than we write this down. Because i'm gonna steal this. He reminds me a russell. Westbrook russ is the guy that lost his best when he doesn't have the best supporting cast around him. When was the year that russell westbrook was the mvp. It was when nobody else was on. The thunder. James harden was gone and depot again the year. That has nobody else's thunder and the reason is because he was the one that was highlighted and we weren't talking about his deficiencies. We weren't talking about the fact that his team won like forty five games that year and had no chance of competing for any sort of title. It was just fun to watch him because he's different he's unique. He's athletic in a way that very few basketball players are. The same is true of lamar. L'amour is a limited football player. But what lamar does. Well is unlike anything i've ever seen in the nfl. I've never seen anybody that plays the way that lamar jackson does. Michael vick's probably the closest thing. But even that's a little stylistically different than what we watch from. Lamar lamar is a strange combination of running like this. This modern offense that i didn't think would work in the nfl but he does so at such a high level in. He is so unbelievably elusive that he makes it work and the ravens are the rare team that actually bought into what he does and they made their entire offense built around it. all of. that's great but there are limitations to it. you get into the playoffs. And we've seen what he does whether it's against. I think the first one was against the chargers. And then it was against the titans or any game that he plays against the chiefs where we know what it's gonna look like he's gonna throw for like two hundred yards. He's going to rush for one hundred but a lot of that's going to be hollow because it comes in garbage time when the ravens have no real chance to win he's going to have moments in this game. I will never forget when he was. I think it was alex. Okafor who broke his ankle his ankles he had to. He's going to have another one of those types of plays in this game. It's gonna build because they'll be down seventeen when it happened and that's exactly what happened last time around. So lamar great player. I'm not trying to take anything away from him. Because that due to special as a talent but there's only so high for the ceiling for what he's trying to accomplish when he plays in the same conference as patrick mahomes. You're right. I think russ russ at least has attempted to get better as a shooter been. Just try so that. That is at least but i mean russell russ probably the same way did coming out of ucla. And lamar looks like he's at louisville when he's throwing the ball deceased. I mean he's still seems the same the same ghetto. Shake your head. I mean he. He couldn't hit sammy. Watkins for four yard throw. He read in front of down the field for a forty yard gain and that was a beautiful pass. It's just inconsistent. He's incandescent people think about. It is ninety. Nine percent of the quarterbacks the nfl are inconsistent lamar's exceptional at one thing. Yeah but but then it's easy okay. Let's make them throw. Let's make them throw and we've got an offense that's going to force him to and i don't know man it's it's it's i don't i don't feel nervous at all or to think of jinxing are one. I'm telling you right now. I said to you before the ground played the ravens. Ten times i could see the browns it. I could see either one of the teams winning sixty six games. I mean it'd be. It'd be easy if the chiefs played the ravens ten times like i. I'd be shocked. The chief didn't beat him nine times. At least brown's personally had a. Just i think the thing that's respect you. As a person and his personal it can be. But just i am in my walk right now. I think the thing that's disappointing. I'm gonna cut in here and just blow right through that statement I think it's disappointing. If you're a chief's fan is like we're all waiting for for that team to step up right that quarterback to step up last week that's fair But we what's somebody to be able to go head to head that's gonna make us sweat right at that. As sheaves fans were like man. Who's that guy that's going to the next threat to mahomes in the afc. Because brady's been that guy brady right now is head to head the only rival that exists for patrick malls. But brady's only gonna play for so long mahomes gonna play for the next fifteen years if you want to twenty years if he wants to. So who's gonna be the next guy and there was a time when lamar was going to be that guy. I remember being in at arrowhead stadium for that. Twenty nineteen ravens game and I was talking to tarez. afterwards and tarez was convinced. This was gonna be the rivalry it was gonna be mahomes versus lamar and the show that we had out. That day was going to be something that we see moving forward and i loved her as paler more than anything in the world. I disagreed with the assessment. Then and i still do today. I just don't think that the ravens are going to be that team. I don't think lamar is going to be that quarterback. If you're going to see one of these guys be that i don't think it's lamar adult josh allen. I think the guys that have the best chance to do so because of what their infrastructure is right. Now i think bakers got a chance because of cleveland and the way that they built that roster. I don't think baker is going to be the reason. Why but his team has a chance. And i think the chargers or the only other team that i see right now. That has any chance of doing so and that. That's i that's where we're at today. I hope that somebody else emerges. But that's where we're at today. And and also depending on where mr nasty goes He's the other one because you always thought it was going to be the one that could like to me. I always felt that was the group that he was the guy but hell we. We saw him week one last year. But i i'd argue. He had a hand in an arm in three fingers tied behind his back with what he was dealing with around him and now he'll he's with he's dealing with himself. Which is an an entire conversation. But now i agree with you. The ravens just aren't even the best thing but they were fully healthy. They're just it's just a match up thing like we've seen it in boxing. Certain certain guys can beat The joe frazier joe. Frazier can't be. You know george foreman but foreman lost muhammad ali styles match and and i just think the ravens for them that she's the worst matchup that they can possibly have. We don't have a lot of time because this podcast ran super long. And so i do not have a lot of time for steve's corner or van. Cnn or wherever the hell we call this thing this week so i gotta burn through mccoll hartman been dominant against the baltimore ravens but if you could bank mccoll hardiman being consistent player at all throughout his entire care which he is never been. He has been that so far in two matchups against the baltimore ravens. They like to play a lot of men coverage they'd like to blitz a lot that freeze mccoll hardman up for d. touchdowns he keeps finding a way to do it against the baltimore. I think he does it again this week. He is now the guy i would put in over general starters but he is a guy from thin and wide receiver or in my daily lineup. I would take a chance on a this week. Give him a chance in your daily lineup. I think he's got a chance to have a long touched out. That was steve's fantasy minute marshawn became next. Athletes need their equipment to succeed. 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B k and those kind of look at it from a standpoint of win the ravens and the chiefs have the ball is star with cheese when the chiefs have the ball. I think it all starts with patrick mahomes. And and what he does an in quite quite frankly the chiefs have become. And i think it's really all because of him. They've become the team that we've always hated by like a fans of of kansas city teams. Sports teams there The chiefs have become your the team. Now that is the team. That just seems like things just happen whether you 'cause it yourself by your skill level or the other team feels possessed for moments to allow you to win like it's happened to the patriots for years. It's happened to like jeeter's yankees. We're we're we're just self destruct themselves and allow them to win and you're like how the hell did they win that game it. Hey i mean duke. Basketball it's happened. The chiefs are that t- the cheeser that teamed. Were they look dead in the water and then a punter can't catch the ball snapped right to. That's routine need. It sets you up perfectly. Like this is where the chiefs are. And i think a lot of it has to do with patrick mahomes and how good he is in the fear he puts in a lot of people. I've seen a lot of patrick. Mahomes stats over. The last three seasons vis is the one that took my breath away. Unlike any of the others a tease. This is after sunday's win against the browns. Patrick mahomes is now nine into in his last eleven games in which he has trailed by double digits at any point in that game including the postseason. Patrick mahomes wins. Eighty percent eighty five percent of the games in which his team goes down by. Double digits ron. Winning eighty five percent of your games period. Starting zero zero being up by ten points in any scenario is an incredible feat to many of the many of them have occurred in the playoffs. Which is which is even crazier because the because of the situation being down by ten points is a death-knell in the nfl. You shouldn't rarely win those games the best quarterbacks in nfl history typically win them. I think i saw joe montana's at like thirty five percent. Brady's at like forty percent. Patrick mahomes is doubling up the best quarterback that we have ever seen play the sport in terms of the last eleven times. He's gone down by at least double digit points. He wins those games. Nobody does that man. Nobody so the thing that you were just talking about the weird just talking about with lamar where he can't come back in those spots. That's when mahomes is at his best when he's got his back against the wall and he knows i gotta make a play happen here. Hell or high water gotta find a way to come back in this game. He does it every time. And that's where what you're talking about with the chiefs being that team. Now that's where it comes from because everybody that was watching that game on sunday there was maybe a minute where people felt like the browns. Were actually going to win. I had that moment. I said oh man. I think they're gonna lose this game when the when the when they got to twenty two twenty and they couldn't kick they couldn't get it in and they had to kick a field goal and the browns march. That puppy right down to take twenty nine twenty. I was in the bag at this point with several glasses of wine. But i was like boy they. That's like the fool around lose this game. And then tim tebow is. Things just started to happen. Like took a blink. And then patrick mahomes through a punt up. That should have been intercepted. It hit right to hit tyreek right in the hands and seventy five yards later. I'm sitting there like what in the hill. I never believed my browns. I never believed for a second. We're gonna win the football. You didn't. you're a liar and a half not for a second. I never i second because mahomes does that. I'm in time again. He does things that you're not supposed to be able to do. And that's why defense is just can't do anything about because he does something in it whereas like baker throwing that interception at the end of the game where he was getting sacked and falling to the ground. It was a desperation. Heave to try to keep the game alive. If that's homes that's a bullet to the wide receivers chess slow at. That's mahala if that's mahomes. Somehow daniel sorensen trip before reaching him. It would have never gotten his hand on them or there have been some sort of an acl tear by somebody or roller wind. Hill baubles of all and it hits the ground. Yeah yes something. Yeah something dropped like. They're becoming this team where things start to happen. And you're just like come on. How in the world at that happened. It's happening but i do think it all started with him. And the fear that teams have in him one hundred percent. I mean you see it. Every week teams go for fourth down against the chiefs. Unlike anything they do. I i would love to look this up sometime i will. What the teams that go for. Four down against the chiefs there so much more aggressive against kansas city than anybody else because they know they have to and i think this is part of it you you look back like twenty fifteen royals right. One thing they did is they. They ran like hell and they put so much. Damn pressure on your defense to make the perfect play that how many different times are on. Did we see teams make. Just silly ridiculous plays in the postseason against the royals because they felt like they had to make it now. Now now. now in. There weren't used to having to do that. We would see it with them because the bullpen and they knew they they they couldn't they couldn't be behind in the sixth. Because i know sorta has no idea. We're talking about but they couldn't be waiting for my turn to talk. I know they couldn't they couldn't get down in the six because of that bullpen and they knew it was lights out once they wade davis and madison and herrera in holland before his arm died. They knew they knew they had to. They had to get the lead or not be trailing by that time or it was. It was over so urgency at all times. And that's how teams field from the moment that things are kicked off against the chiefs. You know it is about sixty minutes of just playing the best games of our lives and if there is one thing one thing that goes wrong for us that's where mahomes attacks and if it's an injury or a punter that forgets to catch the football or baker throwing a weird asset or -ception. Whatever it is. There's something there's something that will happen over the course of the game and it's enough for mahomes to be like you know what this is. My moments of throw a seventy five yard touchdown through the air to tyreek hill and then it's enough for him. Three plays after that to throw a touchdown. Pass to travis. Kelsey like this team. Just with patrick mahomes. They always believe they're going to win. And eighty percent of the time even when they're down by ten points at some point in the game they behalf and so they have every reason to believe it's real. It's not just like vince saying we believe we're going to win. They actually go out there and do it and these these things that we're talking about. Where like these crazy circumstantial things happen. Where easy interceptions were dropped or the partner drops a snap for no reason that helps kind of turn the tide of the game. All of that stuff is because of what. He's done so far in his nfl career and so like even the prime patriots where they were similar. And you're like if we make one mistake or screwed like we're gonna lose this football game that team you at least had a strategy on how to beat them like how to beat. Radio is always rush. Four rush for get brady put up points. Don't turn the football over. You can still do all of that against mahomes and then like the browns dead in week one like like. They played for three and a half quarters or three three three three and a half quarters where they were perfect and then as soon as it unraveled he made you pay about two and a half minutes that that was like it's insane. It doesn't make any and he does. He does what brady does and has done in the past. He inspires people also to make crazy play. Like thinking inspired mike daniels to get that pick just like Like brady inspired malcolm butler oliver out of nowhere to make plays and we've seen it every other guys just all of a sudden make plays. I don't think that the daniels would have got that pick in the second quarter but in the fourth quarter when it happened. He's he's inspired like this. This this cat is is nuts. And it's it's crazy that that the chiefs a team from this area. Is that team now. We're other cities. Just look at say. How in the hill that happened. You gotta be kidding. Me partner couldn't couldn't couldn't just hold onto a perfect snap. And they're they're they're the team and it all started. When patrick mahomes arrived here by the way one quick thing to finish this out just in terms of previewing the the ravens game for mahomes. This is the match. He has dominated so far in his career and his three games against them. He has ten touchdowns one interception and hits three Passing yardage totals from those three games. Three hundred eighty five yards. Three hundred and seventy five yards and three hundred seventy five yards and it was only three seventy five because they stopped. Yeah gone over a thousand yards in the three games against this ravens team. So i i. I'm gonna go ahead and go out on a limb and say he's going to have a good game again. His worst performance against this team was the first time he ever played them when he led them on aid overtime. Victory it's it's The nets when they had the ball when the chiefs have the ball. Also besides mahomes somebody that That be is absolutely about to have some sort of worry. Fiasco with clyde. Edwards layer one great and that in week one but i think not necessarily him running the ball but him just being productive. All around. Can't be important for this team and you would hope he picks it up there and he did and we want we ready to have a conversation about our guy clyde. I feel like you're. I feel like you're ready to have a conversation week. One the brand of a good run. Defense lord i did not Clyde missed a lot of opportunities in that game. And i hope he has a great game against the ravens but this is another situation where the ravens have a very good run defense. They're defensive. Line is incredibly. Stout their linebackers are probably the weakness of the defense on the interior. But they've got some big news on the outside. That are not afraid to set the edge. I was expecting a lot more out of clyde in week. One and i think it's twofold first of all. I thought he was going to be better in the running game. I thought he was going to be more efficient with the touches that he got second thought he was going to be more involved. Just as a playmaker when you go into week one. And that's typically the game were andy reed's like are. Here's what we've been working on. This off-season i'm going to show you not everything but a lot of stuff to be able to put it on film that our next opponents have to see all of it. How much did we see. Really schemed up for clyde in that game we saw some stuff schemed up for mccoll. We saw some stuff steamed up for travis. Kelsey tyreek hill. I didn't see a whole lot of stuff outside of like the new running game that we've talked so much about with some of the the power schemes and the gap scheme but we didn't see a whole lot. That was there that was like. Oh here's how they're gonna utilize Clyde edwards alaron space and If you can say one thing about this this coaching staff. They are very good at knowing who they should and should not utilize. They're pretty smart with that stuff if they're not utilizing clyde in the way that you think that they should. There's probably a reason for it and it's probably because they don't trust him the way that we do on the outside. I'm officially at this point. Worried not terrified. Not saying he's going to be a bust. I'm worried that clyde is average. And of clyde his ad were average you used a first round. Pick on somebody that gives you know. Real schematic advantage. And it's going to look back on it and say man that that was a mistake. So i hope i'm proven completely wrong on this. It's one week of against a really good defense as sorta said but there are worrisome trends here that have shown up in the past and i thought they were going to be better because he's starting to get healthier now and it did not look good for him in week. One of my mind some of it is the game dictated it. I mean and i mean they're down twenty two to ten. You know in the first half at some point you know. Andy already loves to throw the ball anyway that they were going to be putting it up but i would have thought that he would have had more than three catches. I would have thought. Maybe he'd be involved in at least in that in that point in the passing game You know three yards a carry is is not great for him We'll see what he does week to week. I thought he would be more of an impact guy and then he was and week one like they're sixteen more these left but i think the part about him where he was drafted is the part. Where average ain't you expect. More than average if that's what he is you expect more especially where he got drafted. You don't ever really drive running backs you shouldn't and i didn't think the chiefs needed to draft a running back in the first round. I mean he'll at right now. At this point. I feel like a there was a corner there. That feels like you could look at it and say there are some other things they could have used. Especially i think a lot of a lot of this comes from what you felt like. It was going to be as soon as he was drafted. Oh my god. This is unfair. Boy this is a perfect fit for this offense. A guy run. Catch the ball out of the backfield and at this point. You really haven't seen it yet in a game one. Sometimes we forget he was out there. So i get that point for me from where he was drafted i. I don't know if i'm in serious conversation. Based off of game one. But they off where he was drafting and what. It felt like he was going to be he. He does seem to be followed pretty short of that. Yeah hope we see more of that This week has utilization in the passing game. Because this is a team where you can do. Some of that stuff The ravens like i said they really like blitzing. And that means you're going to have opportunities to get your running back matched up on some of those linebackers last year. This was one of clyde's best games it was his most productive game in the passing game in terms of yardage had five catches for seventy yards. If he's able to do something like that in this game okay. I feel better about it but week. One did not give me a whole lot of reasons for optimism. And i again am rooting for me to be wrong on this but i had so much hope going into the season that clyde was going to be a legit difference maker and through the first week i just. I saw the same guy that last year. And that's disappointing. I mean if we look at it as we continue is when the she had the ball against the ravens this place to segue with some clydes issues up front with the with the guys up front particularly the guy who you you trade it in and move heaven a nerve to go get bring over on your left side that guy with a bad number orlando brown will be facing his whole team. Mean you would think could pick it up. I'd like i remember. We've talked about this. Like i expect this cat to be bitter near fisher. And if it felt real. Eric fisher risk to me watching him in the game. Sunday in in like i just like this deuce gotta be better than this in my opinion. I'm not saying he was awful but you just feel like he's got to be better than what he's putting out and is this is not a sense of more comfort on that side. Then i thought it was going to be when they brought him in line in general was pretty solid in that one. They're going up against a brutal matchup. I mean that that browns defensive line is gonna give it's gonna cause for a lot of teams this year. I thought they overall pretty well. There were some moments of the running game where did look pretty and you can tell. This is a new office of line that needs to come together but on orlando brown junior in particular. I think the issue was. He lost so fast on certain reps. It wasn't that he lost. It was how quickly he lost like. We didn't have a chance at times. Yeah in the ball is snapped and myles garrett already turning the corner ready to knock. Patrick mahomes off. That's what you can't have if you're gonna lose. That's fine loose slow. Give yourself a chance lose with you. Having at least in a chance to punch out there were moments where it looks like. He barely got out of his stance. When the defensive end was ready to be at the quarterback and that's what you cannot have moving qualities gotta be better at at being able to get that kick slide going quicker. That was always going to be the biggest transition for orlando brown. This is not something he did a lot of in baltimore. It's a totally different offense for him. And i saw a lot of people citing the fact that he already had a career high in hurry given up yet. Can we talk percentages. Because i don't remember the last time that you saw lamar jackson. Throw the ball thirty six times the way. The patrick mahomes did in this chain. Of course he's going to have more hurries allowed because there's more dropbox that he's going to be involved in. But in general. I would like to see him better in this game the ravens ju- not had anybody like myles garrett. They don't even have anybody as talented as should debbie on cloudy when he's healthy so you should see a better game out of orlando brown junior. He's gonna be highly motivated in this one. I think you're gonna see a better version of him this week than last week. That was the thing that was telling to me is like the the browns last week. They weren't even trying to match up myles garrett against the weaker tackle. they just sit hill. These guys are these guys have both same ability to get beat the same way so he'll it a matter who lines up on them like they weren't even trying to line up to take advantage of matchups. I remember watching myles. Garrett play against the texans last year and they just started avoiding laremy tunsil at times and just putting him up on the other side. They didn't do that. They didn't care they just lied him. Up wherever wherever you go line up. It's a pretty similar the match up for you guys and that that's got to pick up with orlando brown or the final thing is This is the ravens and there's one player that seems to really show his ass in a good way against the ravens and that is michael hardman and There's no team that he plays. It gets up for more than the ravens And we'll see how the game dictates things but for some reason what we see. What the ravens there. They seem to say all right. We're gonna do the best. We can to to not allow it to be easy for tyreek hill travis kelsey and they seem to be willing to give up things with other guys and in mccoll horn men in the past has benefited from that. And you would hope that happens again on sunday yet. The wide receiver three conversation was not a problem for the chiefs on sunday. Because they didn't need one they had every bit what they needed. From tyreek hill and travis kelsey and i'm just gonna go ahead and include travis kelsey in the wide receiver conversation for For these purposes this weekend you're going to need somebody else to step up because the ravens are the type of team that ville put moreland humphry on one guy and just let marlon humphrey go to work because he's spectacular one of the better corners and he can play anywhere in all of football. The question is who else is gonna step up and in the past the answers. Been hardman credit where it's due Last year in this game against the ravens you had four catches for eighty one yards. Including i think a seventy yard touchdown And then the year before he had two catches for ninety seven yards including a long touchdown as well. Makola stepped up in a big way in the last two two performances that he's had against baltimore this defense. They are completely unprepared for. This is the game where he's got to come out with a game breaking play if he doesn't in this one. I'm not sure what is usage is moving forward. But this is the type of game that he should live or he did not have a good game against the browns atoll from start to finish. It was not good for michael. It looks like the same guy that we had seen previously. Andy forgot his helmet on the sidelines. To go there for a return he happened. Hayatou have confirmed that he did. He didn't wear helmets on a punt. Dave jobs dirty dog for having admit that there was no reason for him to throw him under the bus. Like set it on the broadcast media review to confirm it and how he did. It's mccoll against the world it's clear and clean including his own guys know he's got to pick it up to. He's got to pick it up right now. I will say this. If tyreek and travis are going to be open like they were a dominant like they were. I'm not going to sit there and complain. It's say a macos gotta get the ball more is there are times where he better throw it to those two guys like there were routes. I don't know if you call there. Were routes i watch. Were mccoll was open but so was tyreek and he just threw a tatar wasn't cold where to be there was yes. There impacting tyreek over mccoll. In particular there was there was It was a big third down. Were were It was late in a game. A big third down where he hit. Tyreek real quick And he was open. But mccall hartman was coming across on a dig route which nobody around him and it was four. I think it was like four thousand three and he could've hit him easily but yeah throw it to him like down by the battlefield or down in the red zone. Throw it to kelsey right there like you should do that. So some of it is going to be if teams are going to play you kelsey and the way they did or get open the way they did. You better go there but it seems like the ravens their history really hunker down and say we're gonna try and make these other kids. Because demarcus robinson his head some games also was will a against those teams so there should be some openings for them cat and they got like they've got to corners down already it including their best one in my opinion. I think peter's i would take peter's over Was forty four named yet the martin. Humphrey but Humphries bad come. He's he's the bad number. Oh i hate forty four. It's a stupid corner number. he's he's a really really good player. I just hate it. That number but but it'll be interest but no i'm with you. I'm not gonna yeah team a coal but you gotta more not them yard. Would you prefer a call. Have like one long touchdown in this game or him have like six catches where it just looks like. He's in the right spot all the time. And he's like actually running the routes and his timing with mahomes is good. Because i feel like that's more beneficial than him. Having long touchdown. I think he is going to have a long touchdown in this game because even secondary is just falling apart right now and they're going to key in on kelsey and hill that sets up for mccoll too easily. Have you know a fifty. Six yard touchdown. But i would much rather him go. Make five for seventy five and get like ten twelve yards and just like he's got some kind of sync with mahomes going. I just want him to to impact the game. Now the impact of game could be a seventy yard touchdown the impact. The game could be five or six catches for seventy eight yards. I just i just want him to impact the game more in especially if he has the opportunities to do it and i don't think he impacted the game as much in and we want to give the browns. It runs to your point earlier about. You wouldn't have wanted to see patrick. Mahomes throwing it. More to mccall in that game anyways. That's kind of how i feel about this game coming up if if tyreek in kelsey and it's very rare that this happens but if it were to happen if they were covered for the vast majority of the game. That's where certa your game. The five for seventy five. That's going to be more significant and that type of a spot because you're gonna need somebody else to be able to move the chains consistently for you whereas if those guys are still able to get. There's i fully expect that they will be able to. Then the one for seventy five. That goes for a touchdown that might be what they need out of him in this particular game. I think the disappointment against the browns is that you could have had either of those kinds of games and it would have been super helpful for them in that particular game and he wasn't able to accomplish either so In this want regardless of what it is he just needs to be a net positive whenever he's out on the field and far too often in his career thus far it is no longer early. You're in year three of a four year contract. You're you're getting the reps that you've been asking for now. It's time for you to show up in these spots so against the ravens. I don't care what kind of a game it is. Just be a net positive out there and make an impact on the game and make sure that she's fans remember. You're out there in because you forgot your helmet. Yeah all right. So that's when the that's when the chiefs had the ball. It's no reason for you taken. That shot That's the chiefs. Have the ball in the ravens. Had the ball. I think the big key in the big thing is this is the return of. I think their their leader there Not just their defensive leader but their emotional and in vocal leader tyrod matthew who missed the first game and it felt like obviously when you watch the chiefs defense. They missed him But in particular in this matchup like the switch on the swiss army knife that he is Someone who can come down that can affect the run game and affect the tight ends that they like to use with andrews and stuff. He's really really key in this matchup and and you need the all pro tyron matthew to play in this game like he has before is huge man and i think we saw against the browns. Just how significant it is. When you don't have him out there it became pretty clear pretty early on. They were splitting up his role to multiple different guys. Defensively i mean you saw a bunch of dudes that were out there I mean it was split up between safeties and corners and linebackers our money watts scott. Some playing time out there for him. That's not something you would typically see From them it was a big game that they could have used him. I'm really glad they decided not to. I think it was the right call to sit him on ice. And now you've got him going into week to fully prepared rested ready to go. This is the type of game where you might just spy. You might just by tyrone matthew against a guy like lamar jackson. All game long just tyrant. That will be the way you would use them. Maybe maybe because they don't have anybody that scares me really outside. I mean not outside. The andrew andrew's is that he's the one that scares me. And that's that's the best place that lamar throws it in the middle of the field to him. Now one thornhill played his tail off. And maybe you feel better like like to me. I almost put a corner on mark. Andrus i would think about it. I with the other guys they have out there but but that that's the only places to maybe but i think let's see that's that's the thing i don't think you just use them in one way which they generally i think you mix up and use them. You don't know where he's going to be maybe he's covering andrews at times he's blitzen or he's shadowing the more i think you shake it up with him absolutely. He'll play the middle of the field at times he'll be on Whoever the number one receiver is if they're lined up in the slot at times you're going to see him spying lamar. He's going to be all over the place blitz at times. And that's what makes him so. Unique is all of those things that you saw four different guys doing last week. He's now going to be able to do them the other thing that he brings to the table. And i talked about this with sir last week on the pod when you weren't here for week one of the nfl season. ron was. He's the guy that won the first week. What are we doing here resigned. They just play the second best team in the. Afc wasn't a the first games of the season. He's the guy that communicates with everybody else. In a secondary that is communication is incredibly important for them because they are so multidimensional on the back end so having him back as a huge huge. Get for the chiefs. Having him anne frank clark back this week ron i should be a big boon for this cadillac frank. Gunplay sounds like he's he's he's been participating in all the practices week every chiefs player except for willie gay who's on. Irr has participated in practice. See i'm glad. I'm glad you brought up from that standpoint because this is my other thought when the ravens the ravens had the ball is man i i i. I know that tyrod was valuable. I think we will see how valuable he is on sunday. Because i i understand. He was missing and that was a big part of it. But man my take away from the game last week in. This is even bigger coming in this week because of the ravens and how they play his if felt like if chris jones did it make a play that th the browns were gonna run right over them and do whatever they want it like. It felt like it came up to ninety five at some point makeup. Play on a drive. Oh thank god he got a sack now at second in sixteen and that kinda ruins the drive were or he got like it felt like to that point if he there so dependent on him and if he did make a play they were going to be in trouble and that. That's a bit of a concern. I want to be fair. Frank didn't play and we'll see what he does and i think he would help. Obviously but frank did play the entire matthew. Some argued their best defensive player. I still think chris jones. They didn't play. But i it'll be interesting to see because they ran through their their tails. I mean that wasn't even close. There were times where they were just untouched. Nothing and i'm god man. I know time romantics a big deal but man and ain't got nothing to do with guys just getting they asked us kicked up front and then and and that. So it it. That's the only thing is how dependent are they. Oh ninety five because it felt like if he did make a play the browns were going to get whatever they want it and there were times when he was not particularly good against the run. Either chris jones had yet an up and down game in the fourth quarter dominated. He looked like the chris jones that we saw much of the preseason that all the hype was there for him potentially to be the defensive player of the year and the the matchups that we talked about them putting them up against tackles and then moving him inside when they need to passing down he. He looked like that dude all of a sudden but he was really quiet for the first two and a half three quarters of that game. They're going to need more from him. And if you've got the hope would be if you're a chief sam now that you have frank clark coming back. Potentially that should mean less attention to chris jones and that should be better for both of their defensive in spots. And say what you will about franken. I'm sure you'll you'll kind of attack back on this ron. Because that's what you do. I get it but from mark on frame. Good frank clark is pretty darn good against the run. He is stout. He holds a strong edge and against against a team like the ravens that is super important and if they had him against the browns. I do think you would have seen some of those plays that ended up going for long gains. They would have been stopped. It wouldn't have necessarily been in the backfield. But frank snuffs those out for three four five yards instead of going. Well i don't. I don't i don't dispute it. They're a better team with frank out there But i mean it's not like to me. Franks impact is gaining matthews impact agree. You know what. I mean like in his impact certainly isn't what he's getting paid right. So that's that's the point were he can go on disappearances at times too so We'll see if felt like we want understanding they didn't have you know franken tire method. Just felt like we want. They are so dependent on christians. Making a play for that defense to to work Even more than. I thought it was when you weren't here and we did the podcast two weeks ago when i said that chris jones Like he like he so he has to work for this defense to work. It felt you take vacations last week of the preseason when they didn't have a game sorry sorry man look look here. What are we doing. My goodness all right. I mean what. Hold you one of the weeks. The games count one of the weeks. The games don't count for anything because they literally didn't have it. There were no games. there were games. I really hate to pull this cord. Because i only have a little time to pull it. You all aren't married you just don't know i'm about to go out of spite bachelor party brother i've come to be in. The game is out to be eighteen years in a game all right about to be eighteen years in a game. You ain't in it. That's right all right can we. Can we slide. It is because i i. I really did want to have this conversation which we've seen this go around when usc did what they should have done last year. Fire clay hilton. Which was so idiotic. Whether years ago. I'm just saying why if a guy's on a two year a two-game leash why the hell did you not fire him before. That means he had gone. Remember the titans. Herman boone undefeated for him to keep his job. So i mean so. But what's been floating. Around is eric b enemy Add adam schefter. espn said. eric. To me is going to be potentially a candidate for this and this is a place. He's told people that are close to him that would be of interest to him as a college job. And here's my thing with airbnb fellas. If he wants the job more power to it. I can see how we can be a good a really good job. It's it's arguably when you look at what pete carroll with arguably the closest thing to the nf to an nfl job that college has to offer. You're in la Hell before the rams and charges were there you were the football team but you're in l. A. you're in a big city and you get to recruit. I've all that if he wants that. Gig then. I more power to him. Because i can see him being very successful i can see him putting a lot of life in that program. I think he would be a hell of a recruiter. He knows the area. He's from the area. He knows college. He's coached in college but from my time in kansas city. I've always known from folks that i've talked to that eric be enemies. Dream is to be an nfl head coach. Like that's what. I've always heard in if he wants to do to do that. Then man don't take it. I mean my thing with the usc thing he should not have to go to usc to prove himself he should not have to sit there and wait and take that job as opposed to other guys getting some of the jobs that they've gotten over him in the nfl so my thing is if he wants to go to usc and he feels like that's the move he wants to make for his family because you could see it the more power to it if he wants to be an nfl coach nets dream. I hope to god he hasn't just said i've just got to throw my hands up in the air because it's not gonna work because every roadblock and bs lie that is put out in front of me as an excuse Seems to be happening in. I'm just gonna go to a place. Where maybe i can go and make the best of it and not really follow my dream. I hope that's not why he would take the. Us job he shouldn't have to take the us job kind of what you're getting at right if he wants. Gopher police say it's a good gig. It's a it's a legit. It's one of the top six probably college football jobs in america. If that's what you want to do with your life. Eric b enemy vile means. God bless you go do it and have success in doing so but it shouldn't be required. That shouldn't be what is necessary for him to be able to get a head. Coaching gig. You should be able to be a a candidate and frankly should get a head coaching job next year. And ron as i look around the league right now and you look at some of the potential openings. we'll see what happens with urban meyer. But it seems at least possible that he's a one and done out in jacksonville. That'd be a good gig. I mean you've got one of the best young quarterback prospects in the last two decades in the sport cincinnati. I have no idea what's going on with their coach. I'm not sure. The vast majority of football fans know what their coach's name is right now But that he's gonna go. And alor sex. Wilson exact taylor. I don't know if he's going to be long for that job either. Joe boroughs a good quarterback to be able to work with. I don't think matinees gonna last pass this season if he doesn't get justin fields out there quickly. So that's another job potentially in chicago with a quarterback in place that i like. I don't know if airbnb does or not but i would imagine it probably does and the other one that i would throw into the mix that will see but if cliff kingsbury doesn't have a good year this year out in arizona. They could easily move on from him as well. And now you've got kyle. Murray the chance to work with him down in arizona. There's some good jobs available and they're good jobs because they have quarterbacks that's what you want if you're a first year head coach somewhere and eric enemies should be one of the top candidates on any of those lists to be able to come work with those Those young quarterbacks. I i hope he's able to get a head coaching job if you want it to be. Usc more power to him but it shouldn't be necessary for him to go down to that level. No no i mean quite frankly and people like to throw like what is it. We've just never ever ever ever ever ever seen a coach with his resume be interviewed as many times as he's been interviewed for jobs. Not get a job. Never seen anybody with. He's got every single thing you would want. He's an offense of minded coach. he's younger. He's a former player in the league. He's well connected. Who was he. Who is he coached under. Andy reid was success. Rate of andy. Reid coaches really good. What have been the guys who held the position. What have they done prior to him. Won a super bowl and got to the playoffs. Twice with mitch. Trubisky as their quarterback. Now matt nagy. I'm not saying is is is is a great coach. But a lot of guy go look go. Look at belichick's disciples they. They would dream matt patricia. Dream have been what matt nagy was right. I mean every single piece right like all know. He's got up at history. Urban meyer gotta job. I mean come on. Let's let's go dig into his right his patricia remember that whole thing. We've seen this before he. He's not alone and trying to cover up for it but a lot. A lot of the coaches that not a lot. Some of the coaches that have been hired in recent years also have a history. It's that is not the only thing that is preventing him a head coaching job. And i'd like to get out the one that really really chaps my ass and that is he's got to be a bad interviewer what what was staying campbell's interview process. I'm serious dan campbell. Like we listen to eric. B enemy everyday however you say it and sometimes i think people throw too much into this but he sounds like a head coach. He sounds like a leader. Like you say that guy who interviews in that. What is the all a sudden doing. Talking like jay jay walker from good times when he gets in these interview rooms. I mean what what happens. How does he. How does that guy who we listened to speak. Then go in front of guys and not be able to give an interview process of what dan campbell has. So that that's the one that really chaps me is. Oh he's a better. You get out of here. We've never seen anybody be as dominant as the offense coordinator. Like he is with what his group is and not having a job. And it's it's we'll see what happens this year. I couldn't believe it. I'm gonna tell you something album full disclosure. I know of a. I know of a organization that has said about eric b enemy. He's a little. He's a little too rough around the edges for us. The hills. That mean i mean what. What the hell's that me like. Come on man. So i guess if he wants the us job it's a good job. I hope he takes it. But i hope he doesn't take because he feels like that's what he has to take all right real quick. We gotta hit the game. That's sweeping the nation in posture or certified or certified or imposter. One of and order man. The the game that. Let's go positive. I the game that is sweeping the nation certified or in posture. You're certified right. Let's get an impostor. I'm gonna go with my man nick bolton the rookie from missouri and and it is hard for me to talk will about missouri tigers just immediately. It makes me nearly vomit which is happening at this moment. But i'm not gonna say certified yet obviously but he's on the track to it. I was very impressed with what i watched. He doesn't it all together but you can look at their antsy and say he's going to be a player in six weeks. He's going to be better than been neiman. A lot. Better than been name it like. He's going to be and he is fast. You can see like you could tell. He didn't quite know exactly what he's doing but he's he is flying and going around there and And so i. I like where i think. He's on the track from certified. And i can see us in the middle of the season saying nick bolton eh kids certified i like nick. Bolton nick bolton was one of my favorite missouri tigers to play over the last decade he has an incredible story and anybody that wants to check out more of that. It's been written about a million different times. It's it's it's outstanding Nick bolts awesome. And he's going to be a really good player for for the chiefs for a long time. I think i think some people have hyped up his performance in this game. I don't think you did this wrong. But some people have hyped his performance in the first week as being more than it was it was very good. It was very it portends. Good things moving forward for nick bolton he had some mistakes he's not a guy that is super fleet of foot. He doesn't change direction incredibly. Well there's going to be moments where you want more out of him in coverage all of that's fine and the thing that i think the chiefs saw him that they liked is that he pairs very well with willie game. The things willie gay does well. Those are the things. Nick bolton's not great at the things. Nick bolton does create at those are the things that willy gay maybe fails a little bit app. Let me put it this way. Nick bolton would have been the perfect linebacker to have next to derrick johnson during derek johnson. Prime because he's the type of guy that flies around the football he sets a hard edge. I saw it three four five different times. Where he was able to lock into it engage with a blocker and shed that block throw him aside and make affirm tackle for a two yard gain man. How many times have been. We've been waiting for a chiefs linebacker to do something like that over the last fifteen years. It's just it's the easy place that chiefs linebackers for years have not been making that nick bolton going out there and making so that's that's what makes me optimistic about what his future holds is. The easy plays that he was able to make. Were not being made too often for the chiefs told myself i was going to be nice to anthony today and so when you said some of those things at my naturally i was going to take out tony but i didn't hit. You went out for tony. He's gonna get ran through on sunday and they're just gonna have to do it in spite a tony. That's a rough matchup for him. But anyway his iowa. Hawkeyes wants so good for him. Good for anthony. All right became certa Great job today. Sorta meant that. What i said earlier as a person sometimes i really really don't know if i respect you and and i mean that doesn't mean like you mean that i did a great job i think you did. Alright you had some points in it but What what do they need to check out on. Arrowhead pry coming up this week. Another i gotta do your prediction where you've got this one wrong. Oh do we have to do prediction. It's now i got the season you wanna known that. If you're here. And we. I got i got the i got the chiefs thirty thirty two fourteen in this game. Not close and and it's just. It's just a room for the ravens thirty two fourteen. Yeah i've got the chiefs thirty four to twenty seven They take this one down they cover the three and a half points spread which is wild. I'm surprised that it's that low in this one but thirty four. Twenty seven is what i've got. I've got it going over the total chiefs covering the spread. I think they get a big victory in week. Two against the ravens. I believe i paid thirty one to twenty four on arrowhead pride dot com earlier today. I don't really remember if that's accurate. But that's what i'm going with right now. Jesus good lord man. Awful awful awful. Can i change my score. Why do i feel like the ravens. A carve out a field goal. I think it would be thirty. Seventeen the end of the show for field goal. I think yeah i do. I think thirty seventeen is where my mind lantern. I didn't think my lynch earlier thirty to seventeen. 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GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast Episode 410: Cuts and College Players to Watch

GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast

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GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast Episode 410: Cuts and College Players to Watch

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Man lasts apso decide to update you on some some of the teams summit ranking stuff. Like that on top of that man since football is about to start next week of cuts happen this week. We gotta talk about cuts specifically who got cut. What does that mean for some of these teams right and then on top of that. Some people are here tricking. Espn and you know. People that are serious corporations in order to get themselves on television playing ball in business. Green man ain't got no business plan baugh so what i'll do is man if you don't already know about that situation. That story with team sneaking onto the espn for games and playing a img which is a big name school. Then i might just say that one little story time we'll do segment about it. I guess that's something. You're interested in indefinitely. Go ahead and leave. I'll i'll try to wait until Right before the documentary comes out. Because i'm sure there's gonna be some information come out in Late show up on all the information out there because people are actually still pulling facts to get because it was that much of confusion. Obviously all right But i do want to keep you guys inform. I wanna have fun in his episode as well as you know. Keep you informed. So what i decided to do with this one here is. We're gonna talk about these cuts gonna talk about the waivers in cuts For teams. i know injuries. So what these teams have really gonna look like starting off in the nfl They nfl actually just wrapped up their top. One hundred players voted on by other players. And i believe exists and coaches got to china but mainly is focusing on the players. If you don't watch it or check it out it's you know has players commentary in a you know talking about you. Know who they believe are best each position specifically reflect on specific games that they played against the more things that they watched him do so ammo dive into that. A little bit i might do. Of course i'm not gonna do all hundred. But maybe i'll try to speed through the top fifty if we at time and then but i also want to talk about the top twenty five kind of ranked players in college. Football will because i know kind talked about the teams A little bit. But you know if you don't have any ties to it if you didn't go to college if you earn you know to you know college like that or don't know who is who to root for then. Of course. I got to talk about some of the players. May maybe you know somebody like me some a lot of times. You're watching certain players. See what they do see how they perform so we're gonna talk about twenty five top players and then that's pretty much going to be so so it's gonna be a lot of names. You might wanna get you a pencil and paper just so that you can keep everything organized and figuring out later on when it's time to watch because you're not gonna remember everything i'm about to say all right so when you turn on the tv washed the game this week next week So forth this on all right so let's get into it man the biggest news of the week. I definitely don't think anything is going to top this. But the mac jones era begins and it begins in a big way. Not only did the new england. Patriots decided to start mack. Brown weak one. They also cut cam. Newton yep yep it might have happened a little sooner than most of us and maybe even bill belichick expected but the number fifteen overall pick in the draft. This year is starting week. One for the big name pressure. New england patriots with jones's rise to the top spot. It lied to you. Know to the team. Releasing cam newton. That's what led to It's it's a clear path for mag jones to grow into the role without cam looking over his shoulder. So that's typically why. The most people believe it truly happened. Because i can't say don't want cam. Newton on your team is just add. I'm pretty sure mack. Jones one impressed them extremely. If you don't know mac jones he led eight drives eight one two three four five seven. Eight eight drives during this preseason. All right how many that they put him out there and let them do beginning all right all eight. In a score neither a touchdown or field goal can't be mad about that can argue about that may hold ball too long and things of that nature but the ended today. They think they found their future. So with that. I mean for one they didn't i mean to because i did one They felt like one. They don't need to have cam. Newton you know makes garin mac off because they already have a backup quarterback There but Cam newton also. Is you know a qb one. So i'm pretty sure it was a mutual decision As you if you haven't heard already know cam. Newton was even on a podcast and stuff like that. And he said there aren't thirty two guys better than him so it's not two guys better than him then clearly. He believes he's a key one. He's not going to be back. A matter of fact i probably conversations they decided mac is gonna start and cam was like well. You might as well release me. He needs to go to team with on. Qb one the unfortunate part is there's literally probably only two maybe three max teams that are probably willing to really scrap wherever they're starting quarterback is right now for a cam newton. All right the rest of them. I feel like they're either trying to have somebody grow their feel like if it's not broken fix it or they have some one of the great set You know a hall of famer already. I'm sure right. That's literally the three categories so not too many people in their bottom when that are really gonna flip the table for care. What do i think. Well think cam. Newton gone need opportunity. But i don't think it's gonna be immediate. I don't think he is going to be able to go to a team in. Start like even three teams that you know may consider it. I think they'll bring them on in possibly wait till they're starting quarterback messes up in them. Put gammon there. Maybe just because those stardom guys have already been there been at the camps. Pretty much one. They're starting job. Versus all of the other backups or gas fighting for that position. Who knows. But i don't wanna sit here in you know. Put it all on cam a performance. You know the patriots clearly him back for a reason. Bill belichick is it benefits words or when he said before that cam. Newton is going to be the starter. I'm pretty sure he meant that. They wanted mac to sit and learn but mac excelled so well. I guess they were like well. I guess you can learn on the field son. All right But other people on the new england patriots that were waved or release. Include to sean. Bauer the Outside linebacker defensive back miles. Bryant's offensive tackle corey cunningham Cornerback michael jackson wide receiver trey. Nixon cornerback angelo. Ross while seaver isaiah zuber defensive tackle adams Defensive tackle akeem spence a quarterback deavere So it's a host of other guys. People that are Reserved or suspended Quarterbacks define gilmore will be starting to season off on the players. You know Who can't perform Due to fiscal reasons So know injury or whatever it may be savan gilmore's on that list along with joshua bledsoe The safety and To raise hall linebacker a few other guys but those are the main ones. They're jesus did them as well So he's still on the roster. But yeah that's what the new england patriots are dealing with. I mean i guess this also with the league will be dealing with going into some other teams to talk about buffalo bills. We'll just keep it in conference Big move not much surprise here for a team that returns twenty one starters and a former starter twenty to twenty twenty opt out. Defensive tackles star literally The decision to release quarterback jake from one year after drafting him in the fifth round stands out. But it's likely the team tries to bring him back to its practice squad possibly a jacob hollister tight end in Read ferguson. Will likely return as visted veterans They also traded Defensive in darrell. Johnson junior and for those that may not know too much of the background about how this whole cutting situation words. Why happens teams in. Nfl requires cut their rosters. Fifty three players by four pm On tuesday september. I i mean August thirty star but cuts come earlier. this season as teams at three preseason games not four to accommodate the seventeen game regular season schedule week after you know. Josh rosen After josh rosen. Signed with the falcons. The quarterback ended up making the team's initial fifty three man roster so remember he got waived a claimed them picked him up and he actually made the roster so things like that can happen as well but of course the big names That could for sure cam. Newton and Devante freeman rain back for the saints. But we'll talk about that when we get down there But yeah so. That's the case man. That's just you know for budgeting purposes. I'm sure that Keep that money. They pocket But yeah so you know for the bills. The big ones davis Quarterbacks jake from in davis webb running back into williams wide receiver. Stephen sam's Safety josh thomas Curfew by four linemen two linebackers so they know definitely cut it down by quite a bit. There miami. Dolphins dolphins cut been Benedict mckanie That was kind of a surprise. After trading four though former houston texan linebacker. This off season. The deal is officially a wash for both sides as houston texas former As houston traded former dolphins defensive end shack lawson. The day before mckinney was cut. All right so max. Koros release could come as a surprise a few months ago but spate as initial sealed win. A miami traded for greg meant so that one was obvious. Other people released linebacker josh. Harvey clements cornerback. Craven Running back geared geared a dope. Cornerback tino linebackers chicago. Com griffin That's most of the main people few other guy. Hope hardy of guys actually Reserving suspended Require a cornerback. Gentlemen ask you often Nail coleman and of course a wide receiver will fuller is. He'll be fit for couple. Games are the new. York jets The jets dismantled their tied imposition trading former starter. Chris hurting to the mind. Minnesota vikings and cut in ryan griffin daniel brown in can yoga. It leaves only two on the roster tyler kroft and titans slash fullback trayvon Feels speculation that potential trae perhaps for the eagles zach ertz. Who general manager joe. Douglas knows from his days in philadelphia may happen the jets did well to you know. Go in the fourth rounder for henderson. Also asking a six rounder to minnesota. He teased with his potential. After a promising rookie season it's when eighteen but never progressed. New york's coach coaching stab. Didn't see him as a fit for their tied in one position the biggest non move was the decision to not upgrade at qb to which is a risk. Obviously working with a. I guess a freshman rookie. Everyone call him as Zach wilson so. His backup is mike white who hasn't taken snap in a regular season. The jets are the first team in eight years to go into a season with a with no regular season experience at the position. So two guys that have not gotten snaps in games Other people waiting released from this team warsi. Dj montgomery quarterback. Josh johnson quarterback james morgan wide receiver. Vincent smith Running back josh adams tied in all mentioned the tide is already But yeah so all of these guys. Plus the host of others only person on Reserve is deanne. Kyle phillips afc. What's going on up there. Well just a little bit of this a little bit of that baltimore ravens the ravens coat tracy mic sorely. Who trace mcsorley. I'm well this is what it means. It means that baltimore will go with two quarterbacks on the fifty three man roster for the first time in the marge xs four season. So yes that means. Just lamar jackson and his backup all right. The last season Ravens were focused to us four quarterbacks because of you know injury and covert. They had to be prepared this year. Baltimore's going with tyler. Huntley as the only quarterback behind a jackson the ravens are hoping mcsorley clears waiver. Anqing get signed to the practice squad. That's what they have to wait on. baltimore also released veterans of personnel. Mcphee anthony levine but both are expected to get a resigned after wide receiver rashad bates in miles biking get placed on a short term. Injury reserved our right but yet they traded. Sean wait a greg mates in been brinson other people tied in eric tomlinson wide receiver. Devin gerry in a host of other guys but those are the main ones for show defensive. Tackle just analysis of course Those guys all got released Injury reserves jk dobbins unfortunately has reported that he add Season ended injury just this past week and injury. Waved include out inside linebacker otero alaka in wide receiver dion cain Put who where to go. Cincinnati bengals. They showed some aggressiveness when it came to trimming their offensive line in the preseason which is a surprise on monday the bengals traded twenty eighteen first round. Pick billy price to the new york giants in exchange for defensive tackle. Bj hill then on tuesday. The team waived twenty nineteen fourth round. Pick mike jordan who Who started in nineteen games over the past two seasons with them. So that happened. But excuse me along with that Real wave released a costumer. The quarterback tight end is moss son of a randy moss Guard michael jordan salata. Michael jordan's more than that thought. Running back trayvon williams Defensive tackle rene ran To see runningback trivia williams as a former aggie be waived in released. But i'm sure he'll make another roster or at least a practice squad for sure because they're brother is talented. cleveland browns. The browns have several potential. Special teams saul were fighting for their last spots on the roster including receiver cadarache hodge linebacker logic lee and receiver. Joe joe not sin But in the end. Cleveland elected to keep four running backs in state including the artist johnson. Who along with rookie running back to metric felton now figures to play a big role in the return game. All right so that's what they'll likely used them for keep them in travel with them for Also notable people's safety allies bitten wide receiver. Jamarcus bradley tied in jordan franks Kobe set porter. The guston linebacker willie harvey junior And more These guys are you know hoping to see what happens. There reserve suspended. Include damien davis through our receivers tackle. Greg senate and offensive guard drew forbes. Pittsburgh gotta go over to the steelers as it became clear throughout training. Camp quarterback dewayne haskins played his way onto pittsburgh roster asking the rounds out the quarterback ground headline By ben Ben stiller by been ratzenberger in featuring mason rudolph as his. Backup the primary backup. Josh dobbs who was vying for that third spot landed on. I r with a season ending injury sustained in the final preseason game beyond the quarterback battle. The steelers made unexpected cuts on the interior offensive line. Keeping just two guards in kevin dotson try. Turner The team released. Bj fini An rashad Coward who each had a compelling case to basically take to basically make the team as versatile Backup coward himself Filled in the team. The first team with dotson watson were recovered from his early camp ankle injury and feeney was a capable of playing either guard or center. So that's always good to have that dual situation for now. The offensive line has just eight members. Just eight to sit all right That they're working with so. It's a little shaky. They probably out of people that was released in a way they. I feel like they have one of the smallest list but it does include a receiver. Cody y receiver. rico bossy. Running back jalen. Samuels tight end. Kevin radar An offensive line. Chaz green just names and people There's more of course but still way less than a lot of other teams if you asked me all right. Who will no. I'm sorry i it's a lot but we're gonna get through it all right so based off of the way this just went close ladies and gentlemen so we're gonna do is probably going to do. The player ranking To talk more about the nfl. One hundred We're going to get through this. Just update you guys on all of this stuff here man and then For sure. I still want to get into the college for because the games this week. So i'm not gonna leave you hanging there all right but stopper commercial break all right so Either listen to it while grab some water or something real quick in. We'll be right back. Are you looking for healthy. 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I really started to all my listeners. Because we listen period i missed. What you you my frame. All right We're going to job now as we continue to discuss. These waved and release players over to the afc south starting off with the houston texans because they did release. Not deshaun watson quarterback show wasn't on the roster no. This isn't a roster cut but by keeping the quarterback on his roster. Texans are using a spot on their fifty three man roster roster on a player they don't expect to play for them this season so that is something interesting to keep in mind as we know watching face to lawsuits alleging of sexual assault and inappropriate behavior. I don't know if we have to say that for legal purposes or not. But that's going offer it people that are happy to be loses podcast and don't know anything about that. All right after cutting jeff driscoll houston is now carrying three quarterback tyrod taylor rookie davis meals and watched itself after like. That's a fair Affair trimmed there But i will say a lotta people who are ruined for them to pick up the sean. I mean sean pickup cam. Newton a nist. Yes the texans is one of the one of the teams that i was saying that. There's two three teams. That i feel like what actually could start him or you know willing to pick him up to make it you know. Be the backup stopped that existed They did like i mentioned earlier as well. Trade defensive in shack loss in other players that will waive slash release include tied in Anthony clear db shaheen carter receiver. Kiki tay who has been with them for. I believe a couple years so that's interesting Running back buddy. How is the only running back that was released after you know. They have an incumbent of veteran running backs lined up. So that was the only one surprise their linebacker show thomas And a few other guys. But those are the main culprits Indianapolis they didn't make any surprise cuts to get their roster down twenty fifty three. There wasn't much competition outside of. Who would be the team's backup quarterback or potential starter During camp jacob ason was the front runner for most of the Camp over sam linger. He officially locked up deposition. Etlinger went down with a knee injury that will keep him out several weeks etlinger Injury leaves the colt would just two quarterbacks easing in carson on the roster which we know carson situation It will actually i can't assume everybody knows that carson winces supposed to be coming back sooner but you know he had foot surgery doubts putting him out for five to twelve weeks So to kind of an air. We don't really truly no but they made. It almost seemed like he could start week. One we'll see you really going to get find out within the next six days before the first game comes up. It wouldn't surprise though if they added another one until another quarterback until elegant returns One intriguing thing. The colts did do ish. Show their premium on having pass rushers as they kept. Six defensive ends on the roster. So they're deathly trying to get the quarterbacks. I mean they do have to compete with some tough quarterback competition their division. So you know. They know that the best way to get those guys stopped. Slows teams down to slow down in deir quarterbacks that are dual threat so make sense of the people to name that Got releases well include wide receiver. Tariq black linebacker curtis bolden defensive. Tackle andrew brown cornerback. Anthony chesley and more jacksonville jaguars. They had a pretty critical camp especially for a defensive tackle tavern Brian heading into final year of his rookie contract and he survived to make initial roster despite missing tom on despite missing time on the non football injury list and the reserve slash covert list at the beginning of training camp. The team twenty eighteen first round pick has been disappointing in lost his starting job last season. Two undrafted rookie. Doug causton who didn't make the roster this season so cute that mom but defensive coordinator joe cullen raved about. Bryant's strength Last week and said he needs to work on finishing plays so i guess they still have some hoping traded players for those that. Don't know quarterback gardner minhsiu. Yes the guy had been running the show out there for like the last two years. They traded him. He's gone quarter. Cornerback sidney jones. Four also got traded. People also got released a wave include wide receiver. Jalen can't cornerback. Lorenzo burns wide receiver. Jeff guidon running back nathan. Tell in quarterback jake leaden just to name some people a few others and then say i was trying to make sure i didn't forget anybody a tough situation to be in Jaguars coming in here with the rookie quarterback there rookie ryan bagai injured But they like i said are keeping keeping the people they need handy for the future tennessee. Titans release four rounder days fit fitzpatrick in this release time The titans traded fourth fifth and seventh round picks to the panthers to move up and select fitzpatrick with the one. Hundred ninth Pick this year. Fitzpatrick struggled early in camp earlier. This month coach. Mike verbal said the rookie had to do a lot to earn more significant reps. Fitzpatrick seem to settle in wants to titans went to tampa for joint practice with the buccaneers which was highlighted. By twenty three yard touchdown reception in their preseason matchup but he his late push wasn't enough even though the titans kept seven receivers on their fifth remain roster. he just didn't cut it other views to actually one of two three receivers deca cut so him fred brown and mason a Kinsey but you know other. People in other positions offers alignment coal. defensive back breen bobby cow titan miller forestall Are some of the people that that happened to a reserve slash cova nineteen lists because clearly raven over there. Include their starting quarterback ryan tannehill titan. Golf swim corn center Being jones right guard. Nate davis running back. Germany nichols wide receiver. Racy mcmath linebacker just in march lillard linebacker hallard laundry. Landry third linebacker. Nick sunbird like they got bodies over there on their covert lists itself situation to be in But we kind of know what those guys capable. Love stiffly A team that is strong and has a lot of debt. so hopefully everybody does come back healthy though That wouldn't be fun if you know. That's so see west. What did they have going on over there as far as people being released. Let's start with the broncos. The broncos didn't have the high profile. How did that happen. Cut you know nothing too crazy. It won't move the needle much outside of personnel meetings but in house it was a tough call for broncos to waive quarterback ryan Robin ryan who started a bronco win over the new york jets. Last season end is development tool Prospect the broncos think has a future got caught in in the squeeze the squeeze caused at least in part by a lean toward defense defense. George peyton's first year as general manager. The broncos kept twenty seven players on defense on the initial roster as compared to the twenty three on often so you can see where the leaning their way toward In the emergency of youth as eight of the team's ten draft picks made it. They are trying to stay. Young makes the roster also includes in undrafted rookie in twenty eight of the players on it are in their first or third season in the league. Bunch of young guys all right traded wide receiver trinity benson. Some of those guys. That wave include a tackle queen. Bailey tied in sean buyer wire receiver. Terry tyree Cleveland running back demaria. Crockett in A host of other guys okay. The kansas city chiefs mindful of last year super bowl disaster kip tin offensive linemen and in eleventh car along on the physical unable to perform on the pump. For those that don't know. I'm just start calling the These on pope included Included are eight players. Who weren't with the team last year. So eight new offensive. Lineman out of that eleven. That's you know pretty much guarantee that they should be all right. When it comes to offensive lineman injuries come this season. Unlike last season so a lot of receivers day dropped about four receivers One quarterbacking shane boucher. Cornerback marlin character in a couple of other guys man They had to make that transition. Las vegas raiders. Call it a tie between veteran safety. Call joseph a first round. Pick of the team in two thousand sixteen. Who resigned after a year away And was expected to be guiding light for youngsters like jonathan. Abram trevan morag In speedy receiver. John brown who got a one point. Seven five million dollars signing bonus and had his one point four nine million dollars salary for twenty twenty one. Guaranteed the raiders are going with a five-man wide receiver core on their initial fifty three man roster that is henry rugs ben bryant edwards hunter renfro zeh jones in willie snead asked me if i believe. This is gonna be the end of it. No i guarantee you delegates more receivers. That didn't make it. Include dylan's donor dj turner. So they didn't already have a lot to work. In the first place. Tidings released a matt. Matt bushman guard Senior defensive tackle matt dickerson Oh forgot a wide receiver. Keelan dose. Okay so all of those guys there. It was there tom. They came they saw. They did not conquer reserved side. Suspended list in Cornerback nevin lawson are raiders. Raise at team. You know they do find other ways to win. Just passing the ball. I guess i gotta give him that. But you definitely want to have that depth in case anything ever comes up injury wise or not you just want you know security so i don't know i'm still pretty sure they're gonna go out there and find something that they feel is going to be For their station. So we'll see the los angeles chargers though. One of the biggest mysteries in camp is. Who would win the kicker battle between michael bagley and tristen this casino and now we know the money badger is no more yes vinson. You know may three goals last year for the forty niners in has been fairly consistent. The est training camp bagley may twenty four of thirty three last year and was booed by fans at preseason games and so it was decided by coach brandon. Staley on cut day de vizino gets not. He doesn't have the experience that bagley did but he said he was the Leg in i guess. The fans had their vote to the cookie crumbles. So he's out man wide receiver. Michael bandy outside linebacker devon blow me running back darius bradwell and some other guys out there as well all right so chain dubbing. Somebody's gonna pick these. Also if i didn't make that clear earlier dead wave. These guys are released them as a timetable for other teams to get a chance to claim them. One time comes. They can sign them if they choose to okay. That's just how it works. Well of course that would mean they have to get rid of somebody else to if they want to but still up to the team discretion. Nfc east. i know this is the exciting when you wanna come to. Nfc east and see what's going on here right well. There shouldn't be much. Sam sees dallas cowboys definitely. There shouldn't be immediate shock especially at the cowboys. Fifty three man. Roster does not have a long snapper with jake mccoy Would drink jake's release but we can explain with six players needing to be on the roster for a day before heading to injury. Hit into heading to injury reserved. Cowboys had to get creative. Dallas has five kobe. Nineteen exemptions for cd-rom connor williams. Demonte qazi carlos watson in noah brown all right so when it comes to jake who does not go through waivers because he's a veteran Makes up the last spot will be resigned in a day or two. And we'll get his buyback so he'll be back it's just they had to make something happen with their Cuts but somebody. They did cut quarterback garrett gilbert you know gotta monitor but like they had enough at know so interesting that also safety. thomas cornerback. Deontay burton Offensive tackle eric smith just a hamilton. Johnny dixon quarterback bantu nucci. They guaranteed to nucci after everything he did for you. I can't believe you did that to him. Well received by dario mitchell. Reggie davis aaron parker So yeah like i said. I'm between cove. Nineteen list. That wade release plus more of course They pretty much still look the same. If you ask me new york giants traded for two interior linemen. Billy price From the bengals as i mentioned earlier in being brinson from the ravens In the past two days they did that. They needed to upgrade the line. Obviously it was also somewhat surprising they could outside linebacker defined the othing gabo after paying him one billion dollars to sign his off season. A contract in kip to fullbacks granted. Colin gillespie is more of a special teamer and Alive penny doubles as a tailback. So those guys are a little more versatile Except i mean we expect more moves to come though New york newark did leave. It's increasingly thin at tight. End position with evan ingram who has a calf injury. Carl rudolph was a foot injury both questionable for week one so could definitely see some more changes happening. They're definitely a number of guys at into the company of The linebacker funding. Because you got quarterback. Brian lower running back corey clemett Tied in kia griffin stewart wide receiver. David still sales. While receiver damian wills willis trip M more you know Chris johnson the defensive back after running back a whole number of guys are philadelphia eagles. The eagles waived wide receiver travis. Fogel obviously drivers association on his team. People relax Buddy lee did lead the team in receiving yards last season with five hundred thirty nine. He was one of the most productive wideouts in football over a five game. Stretch catching twenty nine balls for four hundred thirty five yards with four touchdowns between weeks four a but cooled considerably down the stretch He followed that within inconsistent training. Camp Then you know he has now been waived by three different teams since entering the league with the detroit. Lions at twenty nineteen so pretty much each year a day. Somebody gets rid of them. Unfortunately they did trade offense alarm matt pryor and there is a list of guys that also got released no-one to spectacular though nothing. Too crazy so really. Just go to the next team in the washington. Football team Cutting running back pain barber because it signals a thought process. Is you know big news for them. Two weeks ago he was a lack in barber. Might return but washington wanted to keep youth elsewhere Including undrafted back. Jared patterson who impressed during those two weeks. It's not that. Barbara's is great but he fits a special role specific role that they are trying to for short yard or running back type of guy. Plays you know a replacement for antonio gibson but the team remains in a building phase and therefore didn't make more designed to win moves now it's evident with other teams including titan Sammy reas defensive in chicago tony. Both factor much bigger down. I mean both factor much bigger down the road than now also no major names in a other company. That guy released actually. No that's not true. why are isaiah right in receiver. Tony brown pretty decent guys. 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We bought the raptor staying man to the last few teams. We have here about two teams man. But i'm knock him out for Lay show up on what's going on and Who is out all right. So we're going to the nfc north where chicago has been having to figure out who's going to be the quarterback after announcing that they are going ahead. With andy dalton. They kept their first round. Rookie selection of course and But if we had to clean some things up and take care of getting rid of some other guys on the release of cornerback desmond. Font was largely expected after the veteran left the team for eighteen days following the death of his father The move however further calls into question. The bears plan at cornerback. Following the off season release a former pro bowler kyle fuller besides to find. The bears also let go veteran a corner artie. Burns and rookie six round. Pick thomas graham. Junior whom chicago is likely to want back on the practice squad Look for the bears to be active on the waiver. Wire in an attempt to feel holes in their secondary. They're probably pickup. A couple of guys that they think get done for them okay. released in waved include receiver isaiah Offense of guard diets. Here is salem Offensive guard arlington hamburger. In a few others reserve suspended. Include running back on one of their main starting running backs to wreak cohen and defensive lineman mario which junior Detroit lions released kicker randy bullock in. Zane gonzales as well as offensive tackle to rail crosby who was a starter on last year squad. Another surprise move was letting go of wide receiver bouchon pyramid however they did acquire ac- re trinity vincent in a twenty twenty three six round draft pick from the broncos in exchange for the twenty twenty two picks fifth in seventh round. So where they now well. They released a also receiver. Victor bolden nose tackle miles brown. Cornerback mike ford safety. Elijah howard receiver damon radley Quite a number guys. Good number of guys. They had to let go unfortunately Also on that list Giovane mckinney running back Dedrick meals reserved suspended. List includes the end. Just sean karnal all right. These are guys that they get to get away with still having around but they still have to get down to fifty three in order to please the fails in their pockets. Green bay packers keeping lift. Tackle david back at ari. Obviously because he's on all remember puppies guys can't play performance issues paints It means they're all pro predictor of aaron rodgers. Blindside will miss the first six games. All right that's what happens when you can't perform out you'll miss the first six games of the regular season while he continues to rehab from his lift. Acl repair opening day was never real. I mean Yeah was never realistic. Any turns out Neither is another before week. seven the only other option was putting him on a fifty three and taking it week by week but they're clearly not going to russian back one of their most important players. You gotta take it easy. You gotta be smart about it. That's slightly bigger news. Dan their own trade of the day. Acquiring punter corey bowl or quiz. Why does everybody in the league at crazy names. Last names a anomaly player so corbeau from the rams to kick it. They received so they also released a number of skill players man. I'm talking about receiver. Joon winfrey running back. Dexter williams running. Back patrick taylor wide receiver. Aquarius saint brown wide receiver. Damon hanson quarterback. Kurt bicker and more like a of guys a lot. Guys all right Pulp the only player is going. To be david becker ari but they also have on the reserve slash suspended tied in j sternberg from and giggle minnesota. Vikings the biggest surprise. I guess might not be much of a surprise at all when it comes to the wants to dust. Settle on who. They had released. Vikings way defensive in ever seen griffin who. They resigned last week running backs In return amir abdulah. Who got a ton of reps during the final two. Preseason games andrew follow who was only long snapper on the roster the only one Minnesota is dealing with several significant injuries to players. It kept on their fifty three man. Roster like are like earth smith. Junior and christian door saw so. It's likely the vikings will be able to resign. Some of the veterans day released once they put Put a handful of players on injury reserved in create a few rosser spots Required in the trey was tightening. Chris heard herndon herned done. Chris earned all right But that's what it looks like they're also wave slash injured Include wide receiver. Chad bb safety luther kirk off. His guard drew semi in quarterback. Nate stanley the nfc south at l. Man atlanta falcons. They keep three quarterbacks on their initial fifty three man roster including former first round. Pick josh rosen. As i mentioned earlier as they try to sort out the backup to matt ryan. It's entirely possible shuffles throughout the next few days of as players get released. But it's another chance for rosenthal. Learn from a top flight quarterback after being tutored by ryan. Fitzpatrick and tom brady. The past two years can be mad at that obviously has gotta learn something about this by this point right Waving released include running back. Caleb huntley wide receiver. Chris arale safety dwayne johnson junior not direct sun Defensive lineman ally anco offensive lineman willie beavers linebacker cobi jones and more Wires he was last injured. Include punter dom michio physically unable to perform pup is offensive lineman matt gano. Cova reserved tied in parker. Hansi are carolina released twenty carolina panthers for those that don't know Released twenty nineteen third rounder. A pick will greer which you know might seem obvious because he's a quarterback but he was the third action Don't be surprised if somebody is at in. You know somebody is added behind who they have left which sam darnold on. Pj walker so yes pj walker from the other league. I think the xfl came right Is now backing up. Sam darnold who not too many gonna make students season as the starter so. Pj might have a chance. But at least he'll you know they're trying to get somebody to add for the practice practice squad but the biggest move was releasing a joey. Sly carolina was so confident in the kicker coming into camp that no competition was created his struggles force a trade with the giants last week. Four ryan's naito So the panthers will enter the season with a kicker who has no attempts in a regular season game. It's a very risky situation. Linebacker joe josh minds. Wide receiver omar bayless running back spencer brown anymore. All join that party of people who had to pack up Season ending injuries. Include a long snapper. Thomas fletcher not sure what that guy did to get that. But that's what happened. Narrative reserve a cornerback. Aj bowie so is guilty. He'll be back. They're going to keep them. All right new orleans saints placed receiver. Michael thomas on their reserve physically unable list. Which means he'll miss the at least six weeks. It's going to be tough for a new starting quarterback in jameis winston. But i'm sure he'll be able to make it happen especially with coach peyton making sure that They make it easy for him. I'm sure There was some optimism. That thomas could be even sooner from From his june ankle injury surgery. But the saints wanted to give him ample time to recover fully pleasant might help clean air if they're still a little fog in there from what happened is off season that will mean though that A big role is coming early for wide receiver remark. Calloway in trae quantum smith who was expected to be back soon from his hamstring injury receivers. Deontay harris Ty montgomery and little join humphry will also have rose after making the initial fifty three man roster and it wouldn't be surprised to see the saints bring back veteran chris hogan after initially releasing him. But now. because you know. Mike's out they're going to probably need somebody's sitting in that space. Also as mentioned people released in or waved include running back. Devante freeman devante freeman. Who knows the running back that Starting for the atlanta falcons when they went to the super bowl when they went to super bowl in more. You know he's kind of been around little babies on the saints in Release also got rid of quarterback trevor siemian but we know you know it was in there but i guess they decided would have jamie's Jamison already having a backup forum with the person who's competing for the star jive with Need seeing who all the way at the bottom of that. Depth chart fullback alex Like i said. Chris hogan's gone receiver kevin white Coombe baker i receiver And tied in ethan wolf include some more of the individuals that had to be let go tampa bay bucks well. This is a team that brought back a lot of their starters and a lotta starts with the reason they were at the super bowl so can't argue with them too much about who you know they released and bring back Not going to be the people that has taken them to the ballgames. Obviously so who did they release. Well the bucks party ways with titan. Tanner hudson in we'll carry on With only three tight ends but three tight ends. That are relevant there. Three tight ends include Grunk howard in a break so despite oj. Howard in cameron break. Both coming off of injuries in hudson's a proud Prowess as a pass catcher. Coach bruce arians Hudson blocked regret regressed his blocking regressed. A grant Steward the two hundred fifty ninth overall draft pick after mr irrelevant along with a fifth round draft pick k- j. Brit beat out of veteran. Joe jones for the fourth in fifth inside linebacker spots while cornerback de delaney beat out veteran antonio hamilton seventh round draft. Pick chris wilcox in her miller For the fifth corner spot. Chris cooper though He would who signed just before the start. Training camp earned the fourth safety spot over. Giovane hagen. who'd been with the team all last year with four players on the reserve cove nineteen lists. The bugs will have the additional moves to make when activating those players. Excuse me People that are also relief was ryan griffin Mr ryan griffin demand. Help tom brady water out of the boat party. They let him go now. Who will be there to help out parole. Tom don't know but tanner hudson tight in. Cody mc elroy tight end tight in jarrell atoms wide receiver Jaden mickens wide receiver krill grayson and more all had to pack it up man Make it happen Waived injured off tackle brandon seton. Nfc west dino the innoc- west is arguably the best and it is our last division to discuss nfc west arizona cardinals only one receiver from the trio drafted in two thousand nineteen remains following the release of kashani johnson. Keyshawn johnson are That's andy is the bill. Johnson had a shot to be in the receiver Rotation this season but with the addition of aj green in rodale more and the emerged. The emerging of antonia wesley. Johnson didn't show enough during camp both at receiver and on special teams to earn a spot. All right he wasn't alone though He also joined by safe decrease banjo. greg dortch Linebacker cow fits offensive. Lineman shawn harlow Tied at ross travis receiver. Aj richardson Cornerback picasso nelson and many many more. Possibly if not the most in the second most guys released on the team came from here. early retirement lookalikes coming from malcolm. Butler cornerback I think only people just touched on a little bit. You know Was famously the guy that made the last second interception in the super bowl for the patriots against The seahawks menino. He's made his way over to arizona and now apparently he is retiring. Is that a guarantee will this. What is being talked about. But i guess we'll see if he stays retired. Don't be surprised if you see coming out of retirement You know post the los angeles rams the most intriguing unexpected position battle of the preseason came down to putting the rams retired the nfl's highest paid punter in johnny hecker. Who rams coach sean. Mcvay said agreed to rework his contract and traded for year pro corey of bowl jaure quiz along with a twenty three seventh round. Pick to the green bay packers in exchange for a twenty twenty three six round picks On top of that trade the individuals that will also waiver defensive back Braun tae hairs linemen jeremiah. Conelly wide receiver jeremiah. Haley and More your jones running back on injury reserve list In dan covert watchlist officer. Guard coleman shelton all right. San francisco are at the forty niners here. We go man still praying that these guys all stay hilty are There weren't many significant surprises though on the forty niners cutlass to get to their fifty three Though for the first time under coach cow shanahan. They kept just two quarterbacks. That's all they got jimmy g. in trae lance Third string Signal caller nate sud feel was released. But he's a strong candidate comeback to the practice squad In remain third quarterback there for the time being that decision also allowed the niners to keep defensive tackle maurice hurst on the active roster therefore his Cut down so that. He can land on short term injury reserve if needed until his high ankle. Spring hills traded linebacker jones griffin as i said And then other people. That was waived defensive in alex barrett wide receiver travis benjamin Center jake brindell safety Clinton dixon Also play with. The cowboys wouldn't be surprised if dates to go back and grab him as they need more depth there M more okay The reserved injured suspended. List is jordan willis People on db trae various more running. Back jeff wilson okay and then the seahawks last but not least the seattle seahawks. We'll see how. Big the seahawks trade for sidney jones before the end of being he's been limited to thirty one games over four seasons including only one as a rookie after suffering torn achilles at his pro day very unfortunate situation but he he was considered a first round talent before that injury. He has some experience. Fourteen career starts and a nice ball production over the last two years. Four interceptions seventeen pass deflections. The seahawks like his toughness and instincts and the price was reasonable. Seattle gave up a twenty twenty two six round pick and will jones one point five million dollars in two thousand twenty one. The summer has only reinforced. A widely-held belief that quarterbacks I mean that corner. Cornerback is the seahawks biggest weakness. Their trade for jones which is not yet official. Doesn't solve the problem on their on on on its own. Sorry but there's enough of to think it can help at the various all right wide. Receiver cody thomas wide. Receiver penny hard wide receiver. Aaron fuller wide receiver travis until vian while receiver connor whittington receiver kate johnson wide receiver. Dorese rosen all. Were released a release every receiver that they got that they had almost Shoot i guess. They're releases weren't that good enough to rei But no gay guys. Man that are hoping to be picked up or at least put on Practice squad for quite a few other teams. All of those guys were big enough bad enough to make it this far. So let's discredit them They definitely earned what they to be. You know on field plan football Because ashes are pretty sure that's what they know so. Don't be surprised if you hear a lot of these names. Backup as just literally what's going to happen is they're going to double is going to happen to where they're back in the game all right that covers it though man as the teams those are the big names that they released that's Updates on them where they stand for this Three main cut man in Stay tuned man. We're gonna talk about some college football players to look for a lot of that was probably saffron guys solicitude guys probably never gonna listen to me on here. Because i'm listening to like that. But i just wanna make sure you guys update sorry if this is a little born. This natural type of episode is brought to get a lot more interesting. You probably even fast forward if you really wasn't feeling all of that after past your team you ain't sleep but it's okay. I still appreciate you for being here. So let's get into a real quick and we'll take a quick commercial break when we get back we're going to get a rap to show up with The top twenty five prospects to look at college football. You know the guys that are more than likely going to actually make the league in make fifty three art so be right back. This is your ultimate stop for everything. Sports the golden state media concepts or podcast. Should i say more from the nfl mlb. The nba mma. It's all in here. Golden state media concepts sports spot. Cast listen Talk all righty than and we are back. Let's get it going man So definitely want to talk about some top players lakes you guys up with some of the top teams where they stand. would it. looks like for them in order to make it to the college football playoffs this year. Right since we got these games coming up but before we get into the players little more details on that just like to touch on the money in coaching. Embiid is fun being a coach. But it got gotta be even better plan all right as this week. Jimbo fisher head coach of zan. Football team is now going to be. The second is pay coach in college. Football so fisher. Entering his fourth season at taxonomy originally signed a ten year seventy five million dollar contract when he was hired away from florida state after leading them in that program for eight seasons of fissures new deal will keep him at ten years now running through december. Thirty first twenty thirty one and we'll be worth more than ninety million dollars. It placed him second nationally behind. Alabama's nick sabin as the highest paid coaches in college football and receive a raise in extension. This past summer that will take him to an average of ten point. Six million dollars annually through the twenty eighth season Fisher is twenty ten in his three seasons with an you will paid an annual salary of nine million dollars beginning january first twenty twenty two an amount that increases to nine million one hundred fifty thousand dollars on january first twenty. Twenty three fishers base salary increases by one hundred thousand dollars in each of the following year with all other performance incentives remaining the same so big money there man only a dream for people like me maybe one day. I don't know. But i know you've got to put in a work. A lot of things are headed to you in this game. You definitely gotta show some success. Which a he's been shown on pretty much so far. I think this year is really going to be the one that has to prove it. All but i guess we'll see at the end of this. I mean clearly extension. Now it's time to show his recruiting skills all right. Let's see if it came through since the day you walked through the door. See what this program look like especially with their neighbors knocking on the door and said get into the conference so he's definitely got to be on his ps and qs. We'll see how it ends up getting to the players man definitely people that you want to look for. Look out for man. A lot of guys look great in highschool get to college is not the same name. Goes quiet or they look good in college. Something happens slip up or just. Don't get the time or not in the right place. Not at the right school to be seen and they slip between the cracks only a few that small percentage make it to the big leagues man in these top. Twenty five my to share with you right now are the ones that are almost guaranteed to end up on a team next year. Ra so let's check out the top twenty five people to look out for a number twenty five. We have justin ross. Wide receiver clemson. He six four hundred and five pounds already third year sophomore clemson's first game will be against georgia in charlotte. This saturday. This guy here as you know pretty much made a name for so by putting up some big numbers. He was one of college. Football's best receiver than twenty eighteen and nineteen catching one hundred. Twelve passes for one thousand eight hundred sixty five yards seventeen touchdowns more than seven hundred fifty of those ers came after the kitsch roth did have some issues with drops in twenty nine thousand nine but is expected to bounce back this season number twenty four. Trent mcduffie cornerback washington. He's five eleven hundred five pounds a junior. Their first game is versus montana. This saturday You know he is someone else that has made a name for herself these last three years. wasn't much to see from the snaps that he had very rookie season but macduff allowed three catches for forty one yards as the primary defender and had an interception just last year. So while you know you really would like to see you know what you saw. Twenty two one is going to be a huge season to see where he really goes from here. Our number twenty. Three's zach harrison. He's a defensive. In a idaho state six to sixty five of junior class ranking ohio state is gonna play against minnesota tonight So that's one you might wanna check out. He has played only four hundred ninety snaps in the past two seasons with five point five sacks in nine point five total tackles all right so he's gotta show a little bit more but he's very capable at six six hundred five man. It's hard to keep that in away from the quarterback. That's where we're going to have to wait and see number. Twenty two belongs to drake jackson. Outside linebacker of usc six four to fifty five junior they go against san jose state. Saturday jackson showed a ton a promise as a freshman pass rusher between nineteen reckon up five point five sacks and fifteen total tackles for loss. He had only two sacks in six games last season but the talent is still there is still. Obviously you still see Just watch them. Jump off your screen. He could be one of the best edge rushers in the country. This season I'd like to see him improve in his technique and build out a few more moves to get hit by the offensive tackles but once he figures that out. It's all up from there man number twenty one. Roger mcgarvy cornerback auburn. Six foot one ninety. But he's a senior. Their first game is versus alcon This saturday his tape. Yeah his tapers another. you know. Want to watch of auburn this summer. This is one that you want to check out I think he's under the radar right now. He kind of quiet. He's very instinctive and has an ice size at that position. Now he did give up a couple of big plays last season so he needs to be more consistent from snaps to snap. I definitely have been pretty much proven. So he but he wasn't even close to the tigers the biggest issue on defense so can put it all on him a lot of stuff that happens in football being in. It's a team. Sport is almost a chain reaction But he does have three picks incomplete pass coverage on the next level. So we're going to see what he does this season another. Usc member drake a london. All right so yes. Usc has a team. Full of drake's drake london wide receiver. Six five to ten junior. They go against san jose state like. I said this saturday. He also he played on. Us's basketball team in twenty nineteen twenty twenty. He has a huge frame for a receiver though. He's a little lean low skinny as you can see from the to ten he towers over pac twelve defenders and he can out leap just about any corner. So lunden has seventy two catches for one thousand sixty nine yards in eight touchdowns past two seasons. He has dropped only one of his one hundred and six targets. So that should tell you enough number. Nineteen andrew boot junior cornerback. Clemson six foot one. Junior boot was overshadowed nationally last season by darin kendrick who with now transferred to georgia but the tapes showed something different. He was really really good. If you really paying attention If you're just looking at his you know counting stats to interceptions four. Total pass break a pass breakup. You don't see how he looked really on outside on those whiteouts. Quarterbacks rarely through his way. Because that's how tight he kept it a number eighteen. Where touch an alabama you know. They got a loaded crew over there. All right so alabama's christian hairs inside linebacker. Six to two hundred thirty two pound junior alabama's first game has versus miami in atlanta saturday. is a few spots a from. You know the early big boys that are coming out just possibly you know the next guy up to make splash in order to get on there though. He's highly valued in nfl. These days especially linebacker position are going to see many middle linebackers. Go in the top five picks anymore. That's just not how it works. But hairs had a complete twenty twenty season with seventy seven. Total tackles four point five sacks in an interception the folks at espn stats and information counted. Thirteen tackles for harris and noticed that those on tape as well as you know you'll see him. He has the speed physical traits to get the football but he needs to improve on getting ball carriers down to the ground Which you know was muslim. The inside linebackers job is keep that eye on their quarterback on that Running back backfield. So he shows some effort there. And i'm quite sure a lot of scouts are gonna wanna talk to number seventeen keer. Ellum cornerback florida. Quarterbacks list floridas first game versus florida atlanta on saturday. His tape is a little inconsistent but he has flash enough over the past two seasons to be considered one of the top defense backs defensive backs in two thousand twenty two class as six foot. Two he has long arms. The solid frame little skinny budget wide enough to be able to reach. He had five interceptions over the past two seasons. Ambro up eleven throws into lean twenty florida's known for producing defensive backs with their last. First rounder in twenty twenty. Cj henderson who went to the jags number nine l. Could be the next guy to do the same number. Sixteen the georgia bulldogs adam anderson outside linebacker six foot five to thirty senior. They will be playing Clemson saturday out of all the twenty tape. That's been studied anderson's might have been the most impressive. At least one of them. He flies off the age to get to the quarterbacks. In never takes plays off. Anderson had a great season as an edge. Rusher racking up six point five sacks seventeen quarterback pressures into forced fumbles. He is likely to stick as a three four outside linebacker at the next level. That's more than likely the team that's going to want to use them Use that type of scheme and he has a potential to be a big time sat artists which is what. They're probably to be hoping for so just look out for him. All right. maleek willis quarterback liberty. If you haven't already heard about them let me talk to you about. And he's six foot one to fifteen little undersized quarterback but he's fourth year junior They play saturday versus campbell. Auburn transfer remember had a big twenty season. Throwing twenty touchdown passes in just six interceptions while adding fourteen rushing touchdowns and nine hundred forty four yards on the ground. His seventy eight point seven. Qbr ranked sixteenth in the country. And i'm just saying what we ever we see. This year is probably going to be better than last year. So he's only going to be a more amazing and then he still has some more time under his belt. If need be to get seen a little bit more. But i promise you he's going to be on the team somewhere. His name is going to be on a jersey for someone regardless of what the state is if it's a starter as backup is he's going to be able to go to the next level all right back to ohio state big-name receiver one of the top receivers in the country. Chris He six one eighty eight senior You know we may have wrote in may that you may have heard that he probably would have been a day to pick Had he entered the two thousand twenty one draft and now he has a chance to be the first receiver off the board next april. He's one of the best deep threats in this class. He has averaged fifteen air yards per target in his career. Any en isn't improved. Route runner with stiller hands. You know they just stick to my glue. He has one thousand nine hundred over the past two seasons. This guy is appoint maker number thirteen. Eight in hutchinson deanne michigan six six to sixty five seen your catch them in the catch him in the game. This saturday versus western michigan. I think he could have a big year. It's very much possible. That's why he is ranked here. He played only one hundred and forty-four defensive snaps last season before he injured his leg against indiana and had to have surgery unfortunately but michigan defensive of crater. After you know he was hurt they were hurting without him. he was outstanding as a sophomore. In two thousand nine hundred ninety putting up four point five sacks in creating havoc in the backfield ten point five total tackles for losses what he was making happen. And don't be surprised if you see them bounce back this season after recovery in making even a bigger show for himself. Number twelve gorna. Arkansas i know are one of those rare ones. You see on this like this but if you're from running area if you're a fan that you should get excited why because you're having outstanding receiver in trae lan burks. He six three to thirty two junior. Would you know being that high in way that already puts you at an advantage but yeah their first game this week. versus rice on. But this is the catch. He's that size at slap which is typically not the case. It's a little outlandish. But he did a ton of damage there for arkansas last season. all seven. touchdowns came from that alignment. He can break tackles one hundred seventy of his eight hundred and twenty receiving yards. Last season came after first contact and he has some speed though Not too sure if he'll test off the charts at the combine for frag but Burks did have four drops in twenty twenty so we wanna see on clean that up and see what he can do number. Eleven george carlin office. Deanne purdue six four to seventy junior day play oregon state saturday. He played just three games last season Positive cove in nineteen tests in november cut short his campaign sophomore year he had two sacks and seven pressures and espn stats and information. Credited him with two incompletions created as a freshman in two thousand nineteen. He had seven point five sacks in seventeen total tackles for loss. He's fantastic for three in prospect to hit double digit sacks this season so the end are definitely making a move as you. See this a cornerback. Dna receiver type list. But i'm quite sure alone. Come across somebody else. That's going to be very special here soon. number ten garrett wilson wide receiver ohio state. So yes or how to top twenty-five receivers. He is six foot one hundred ninety three. He's a junior A and i mean he'll get an early chance to see We'll get the buckeyes is with the new quarterback. Cj strong and his star receivers thursday. Night tonight He strata backed up justin fields last season. So you should be solid but Talking about wilson. Wilson played mostly out of the slight last season kitchen forty-three passes and averaging almost seventeen yards per reception. He's dynamic with the ball in his hands and should get more reps outside in twenty twenty one. Now we're in the top ten. Of course you gotta start some aggies. Men and i know you just heard. I said about being all these skilled players. Db's and she was a couple of linebackers in there. But let's talk about the boys that need to get paid. All linemen takes us in kenyan green he space for three twenty five heavy his guy. We got so far on this list He's a junior takes his first game. This saturday versus can't stay tuned into that. If you want to see him Kirkland like kirkman and neil. Green is a former guard but this will be his first season at left tackle for the aggies. Green has played both right and left guard in his career. And you were really curious to see how he fares In this move based on his tape guard he could be a first round pick and we're expecting him to struggle And we're not sure if we should expect struggle him in the transition. But i'm sure we'll be able to see it in this first five games. Green has crazy talent. A lot of people compare them to First round selection out of usc. Elijah there tucker So don't be surprised if you see him. Go in the first round numeral ocho we have a jackson kirkland offensive tackle out of washington is six foot seven so this is the tallest guy. We had analyst for two ninety five. So that means he's slim possibly can run fast. Which if you watch you may see something there. Flash in re watching his taped only four games You only played in four games because of the season that they had. It was an abbreviated season. But there were really any mistakes. He just incredibly consistent. He didn't allow a single sack. Any excels in the run game. Two kirkland started twenty five games at right guard in two thousand eighteen and twenty nineteen before moving to left tackle Last season So don't be. I'm telling you you're going to hear that name again. Keep it at the front of your mind as we get closer to the top. We're going to start seeing some of these big guys that everybody you're gonna need. Which is the most important gun field. The quarterback our first quarterback were coming across here. A number seven is sam. How out of north carolina six one to twenty five junior. There's a lot to like about him. he's very accurate. Inca manipulate the pockets of fine time to throw it okay. He throws a nice deep ball. Doesn't make many game changing mistakes. as mentioned Beginning of this year the tar heels. Lost running back devante williams and michael carter in wideouts the yami brown and das- newman to the nfl. They always able to get a been there so really curious to see how he works with this new cast. You can catch them. Playing virginia tech on friday back to am texting. Ams de marvin lille our first interior de lime on this list. Yeah he he's obese. Lose one of you know a lot of people's favorite prospect for this position because he's so versatile add on the defensive line. He could play in any defense at the next level. Or at least that's what's been described We liked the potential that he has interior but he can also do edge. If need be is really hard to find guys that can do the entire line. This is the guy ford He played incredibly hard in his always in the right spot at the right time. Little hat to point five sacks forty-seven tackles and a forced fumble last season. An he also picked off alabama's mag jones on a deflect deflection iranian for forty three yards. All right so this has gotta brothers very athletic all right like i mentioned earlier. Catch them this saturday versus king state. I know i will be watching number. Five is cow hamilton. The safety out of notre dame he six four to nineteen. He's a junior Hamilton and the fighting irish start their season in tallahassee Were going against florida. State very exciting game to watch right there. You might wanna tune in and watch them. Duke it out man. He's one of the most versatile defenders in the country hampton has five interceptions in ten total pass breakups over the past two seasons. Any has sixty three total tackles in twenty twenty. He's an exciting possible first. Round safety to be selected. Back to bama offensive tackle Neil has a massive frame instead stellar physical traits checkout. Just you know the clips look them up on youtube and stuff like that if you need to see some of his highlight because they are almost endless there bama did start him at left guard as freshmen. Between one thousand nine it'll be the crimson tide's left tackle this season as well. I mean he'll be there left. Tackle so move from left. Guards left tackle taken over for first round. Pick alex leatherwood That's usually a tough transition. But when you coaches especially ones of nick. Saving in shoot is jimmy I mean jimbo. Fisher has mentioned They know what they're doing so number. Three derek sting. Lee junior cornerback. Lsu six one one ninety five junior his ranking is all about. You know the ceiling here His freshman film when he was one of the best players on. Lsu's twenty nine hundred title talk titled team is tremendous. He didn't play as much last season. But that can mostly be attributed to the entire lsu defense being dreadful. He has shown that he can lockdown sec receivers and he should start start again. wouldn't be shocking if he does go top five pick in the draft next seasoning. You'll be able to catch. Derek this saturday as lsu takes on at ucla type two. Let's get to. It will be well number. Two is a quarterback and possibly the quarterback is favourite to be number one off the board as far as quarterbacks go This upcoming draft the next one so spencer rattler out oklahoma six one two five his third year. Sophomore the heisman trophy favorite. Had you know he did have a rough start in two thousand twenty. Keep in mind that he didn't get a fool spring as the start at as the starter. After he sat the season behind. Carla murray but was electric down the stretch. Throwing fifteen touchdown passes in two interceptions in sooners final. Seven games that included four total touchdowns three through the air while averaging ten point eight yards per attempt against florida in the kindel. Rattler has a big arm in can also beat teams with his legs. He scrambles out of the pocket winning when things get dicey you can catch him versus two lane. They saturday in our number one guy. The way who was already making money off The in rules with What is it enough. Teas and stuff like that with nike man We have cave on tivo the dna out of order. He six five to fifty big boy. Who was junior could be twenty two. You know this could be the year that a quarterback doesn't go first and we'd see a defensive in it hasn't happened since two thousand seventeen when the browns took myles garrett at number one and they also have the number one next year. Gig them But tim tebow. Who was the number one. Ranked highschool recruit Nineteen is an elite pass rushing talent with quickness and been to get double digit sacks annually at the next level all right like guess in the nfl. He's can be able to do that right now. He's had nine six as a true freshman in twenty nineteen and you had three six and nine point. Five total tackles for loss in seven games. Last season he is a beast. Check him out. check out. Check out all these guys man. Now there's a lot of guys. I dated named man. Of course you will hear them throughout the season or your to hear them on your screen as you tune into the games this week but that is all i have for you guys today. I hope you enjoyed the episode. I lot of names were named if your team Brought up of course. I'm sure you already knew some of those. But for your competitor you might wanna ride them down and make sure your team has game platform because these are what. I call diss raptors. But thank you so much for tuning in this. Gmc football podcast brought to you by the gmc network. I'm your host. Dj yong's feel free to follow us. Subscribe comment we appreciate all at on also media platforms gs gmc Underscore football we got that on twitter instagram and facebook but until next time hope everyone enjoys Their holiday labor day weekend. Everyone have be safe. Have a good time piece. You've been listening to the golden state media concepts football. Podcast part of the golden state media concepts podcast network. You can find this show and others like it at www dot jesus mc podcast dot com download. Our podcast on itunes stitcher soundcloud and google. 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NFL Players Opt-Out, Clyde Edwards-Helaire Stock Rises + Much More!

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NFL Players Opt-Out, Clyde Edwards-Helaire Stock Rises + Much More!

"Now. Let me. You, are now locked in to the dodgers podcast. Ashby. Welcome to the. PODCAST. I'm your host Neal Molyneaux with me today fresh off the injured reserve is at K. Hill House, the chest and or back Adam. Is Good I worked out again today for the first time since? Oh, feeling proud of that accomplishment not US yeah. Didn't have didn't didn't have any serious. Long lasting injuries but was was decommissioned for the last recording meet me and Josh. Rogin, where really opt out of the podcast seasons we weren't sure you know like give them a concern I mean. Thinking about it right now, you guys might be talking about seasonally it doesn't even happen. This might be a big waste of time more than usual though. Well I also mentioned our boy Josh He is here today he found time throughout all his Club hopping and bar skipping through the pandemic he found time for us today. So Josh, welcome to show as well. Hey, we I went to a bar the other night and we were literally only two people there see. Incredible Grants will tell you Josh. Tells me that the bars are underutilized resource at this point in time I don't know I mean when you're when you're one of two people doing something only to people using night though men Monday night, do you usually that as a positive or a negative atom? Yeah I. Don't know man is weird Josh's just out doing his own thing. is we now as before gallivanting about town like nothing ever happened so Like nothing like he's really out there flexing those antibodies like he's getting. Down there really capable of. Is Ridiculous I mean speaking of Corona is getting kinda crazy for the NFL right Adam just kind of mentioned it like we did. We did talk about it last week Josh about I had it in valor no foul as far as players who would actually get coronal during the season. But here we are today and we got players opting out left and right and it's getting A. Little concern in players who are getting put on like I guess injured or something for like potentially have intervene in contact with people who dared or would honor with the cases So yeah, I mean it's getting a little crazy I I feel like it's going to be kind of a big part of this episode today like there's really no other way to. Approach. It is kind of the you know the Buzzword of the Week I. Guess You could say what everyone's concerned about So when I did ask for questions, we are covid related questions. I'm all the news, all the hot topics everything is Kinda Corona Corona Corona. So if you're not looking here corona, this isn't the episode for You If you do care about fantasy and how this is GonNa play out with Corona. This is the episode for You So it will be a big part of the show today but before we get into the football stuff and all this stuff, I'm curious for both of you I guess Adam. Are, what is like how do you feel right now about the season upcoming in in relation to Kobe like what's what's the first? Thought comes to your mind right now. It's really interesting because I think that right now we see kind of three different styles of how to approach the season. You've got you know kind of with the UFC did with was you know find best solutions just in the moment and just kind of roll with it as you're going just tires spin figuring out if you can do it in Las Vegas or you know if you can do it in another state. Or another city and then realizing that. All right. Well, we have to have some backup plan. We can just go somewhere else and it seems like fight island for the has been the most successful sang flash to the other leagues so far, and you have a lot of breakouts that you're seeing right now happened in the MLB but in the NBA where you have this little secluded island kind of copying the UFC seeded. A lot less cases so. The struggle is. I think personally. Everything points to the NFL being most successful following in NBA esque model especially since it's a sport where most gains are all played on one day any it would actually make more sense to have them all go to the same area and be playing gains relatively on the same day but the logistics of that are just so crazy that I don't really know if that's going to be around the decided tate. I think they're going to go Albie route, and if they do I, think we're going to have a season. And it's going to have a ton of missing players and I think it's probably going to be unprecedented that. Yeah I agree it's like it's about to be you know struggle city for the NFL. Josh. Deal. You're a little concern here or I mean you are the one Galvin Javad is in the town I mean are you not concerned at all? I think. Wait. Wait wait wait Neil. Do you know what you just? Just said, it's not a good. I think we go the NBA route I. think Putting everybody in a bubble is is better safer smarter thing to do. Yeah that that definitely seems like the best route like you know like you just said, I don't know if it's possible but mascot is getting worrisome that you know if they if they go about the season as normally would have madison how this is going to play out but. We'll. Just have to wait and see there's no you know there's no way to predict it really. So we'll wait and see in the meantime we will continue to talk football will continue to talk players involved will continue to get all this information out there just in case everything. Just. Starts playing normal but we have a lot of good questions and stuff that will get to that'll make this more clear Let's are we trust issues though we have some new allow the headlines of today of recent couple of days interest issue. So let's start here the first one with Jimmy Williams out he opted out due to Covid Clyde. Edwards. Hilar- is a first round pick Josh. Do Trust this you have trust issues. I think trust him in the back of the first round turn pig I'm okay with taking Clyde with one of those two picks I. Think he has lot of upside in Damian being out of the way matters to me. He played really well last year he did the job Kansas City is a very good opportunity to get and I think Clyde might just be able to step in some. Yeah. Yeah. It's. It's hard to like not envision now like this being his backfield but we got a guy here named Adam who I'm sure is inclined to believe somebody else in this backfield matters who I can't stand here about this guy but Adam. What do you think man the Andrea Washington season how did you go to Josh I? That was rude. I wanted to hold you up. Yes. So as we all know Deandra. was signed by the chiefs this off season and as everyone was his podcast now I've been touting him since his rookie year and it's not been going great. WE'RE WE'RE ON REBOUND CITY It's DE'ANDRE IT'S A. That being said like legitimately es all all fandom aside I I do think that De'andre becomes a pretty viable. Late, round pick I mean maybe even mid late round neck. If you're feeling really frosty but I don't think most people are gonNA be looking to draft him I think there's a lot of names like McCoy. Freeman, and things that are floating around a little bit more but as far as Clyde goes. I. Mean. I think as far as trust or trust issues. He's got he's GonNa. Go at the end of the first beginning of the second round in most straps. I mean from what I was seeing. He was already starting to creep into the end of the second in a lot of drafts. It doesn't take much for him to get to the end of the first. For me personally I I. Don't know I think that he's going to be slotted into right around running back like eight or nine for me the top six or pretty locked in with with cooking. Henry. Rounding out the top four point and I think Mile Sanders has got to be ahead of him US but. That's right. That's right. Where things get really interesting for me and I think that I, think is going to be somebody who I get really excited about this year but man, it's just. It's actually funny that the sixty back to literally the first year that I ever played fantasy football I drafted a rookie running back in the very first round. It was Ryan Mathews Work Rookie. Year. So that didn't go well, guys. I'd get really cautious but. This this is one that makes a lot of sense. Yeah. I have no issue with different people taking him in the I I trust them as a player. They are going there obviously for people who have already drafted it whether it was dynasty leagues whether it was in. Redrafts and you just drafted super early whatever the case may be obvious if you took him. Ahead, of guy, Johnson Taylor you feel good. Now you know what I mean like you feel better it makes you feel like, okay. Maybe. I. Didn't make a mistake at least for this season, but we'll. We'll see Damian Williams saying is funny. You know 'cause he will. We're putting giving him a lot of credit and drafted him you know in the middle of drafts or a little later in steel so he didn't. we'll see how that you know we'll see how the candy back full works itself out. I'm not really worried about deandre Washington, but you did mention default the freemen. So on our trust issues list here to font the freemen just happened to be the next kind of list item so. Let's let's just say devante Freeman signed as chiefs. Lese signs air do you think? Trying to I'm trying to think of the best way to put this 'CAUSE I. Yeah. Okay. Let's what his way demographers has. Jeeves any matters and fantasy do you trust trust issues on housing? You Adam I because you did say you like Ed's layer you do like the Andre. Washington. So how much does it avant onto from him bother you then Why I mean if he signed there yeah. Of course, he's GonNA matter fantasy because they're not if they signed an additional player that changes that backfield entirely I mean obviously if they signed a best friend, they're gonNA utilize that veteran that being said. I don't see him silently. INTEROR. My my good friend player profiler DOT COM and entitled a little name. De'andre, washed. See POPs up on the right hand corner. Sock you jacket. Already. Got devante Freeman clone right in that backfield right now and he's younger healthier and personally I think that they've already signed a player. Obviously. They might go out and sign another with this. Surprising subtraction lineup. But I'll be very surprised if they paid the money to get devante there. I mean, there might not be that much of a market it might not cost much to get them in. So if he goes there matters I'm not expecting him none of their key trust the idea from going there Josh and matter fantasy. Not and mattering. The chiefs did this last year this time Leshan McCoy in he had a thirty nine percent tar opportunity share, which was thirty eighth overall and points per game he wasn't before. And they. Did that when they Darwin tops in who we all love so much Yeah. I'm not if they signed devante freeman like that's fine I I think he'll. You'll have his two good gains just like with Shawn McCoy did and we'll get it everybody else can do. This is this situations you know it could get messy or it could be super clean I'm hoping is super clean, but with the way everything is played out in two thousand twenty so far in life in general, I don't expect anything to be easy So we'll. We'll see what happens here with the chief they're going to be obviously a lot of talk I it also kind of makes me wonder with all these guys Ogden now and also the fear of players just get in Cova during the season like how how many teams do you think have guys like on standby like Super Samurai like, Hey, man like we're signing you immediately the first second anything happens like do you think there's quarterbacks? Washed closely like these important positions or do you think that like? Teams we'll just cross everyone together. Didn't earn it. The was of the AFL or the was the xfl that had a an extra team that was basically just sign -able guys that would be for the purpose. So maybe the NFL leads to pick up. Had to do something 'cause can get really crazy quick and his super interesting to see how this plays out It's like it's one of those headlines for like a lot of people don't WanNa. Hear it anymore. Just say they want to hear about crony anymore period, but it says you can't help like it'd be a focus All right. Well, one thing that I did want to mention around that though is with the subtraction of a preseason you have felt teams being forced to go. Down to the three man roster without adding any risk of losing in a players due to injuries. So you are willing to have very large layer will because all these teams are not fifty three players. When you know typically they have expansion rosters, the beginning of preseason and everything. So you're still going to have all those free agents floating around so I I don't think that there's GonNa be any shortage flares, right? Yeah. Also sucks for the guys not the chance early proven so I mean like. preseason was Brazilian for guys who? Were on that friends or were rookies or drug free agents. Chance, other than practices so that sucks but. Man. This is GonNa be a headline that completely. Devours everything we talk about what it is. Anthony Lynn tyrod Taylor will probably start week one for the chargers. Do you trust tyrod start six or more games josh? Yeah I do I trust it to happen because I think tyrod is gonNA play a better than people. Expect I think Justin Herbert is GonNa be underwhelming and camp so Why would you not keep tyrod out there? He's GonNa have Keenan Allen. Neck were hundred Henry. In maybe even Mike Williams making him look awfully good. So I will not be surprised if he starts six or more. Yeah. Tehran is an interesting case. Adam how how do you feel do you feel are you are you in the boat of? tyrod season-long quarterback or a majority of the gang quarterback or are you dislike totally have trust issues with them and you feel like the rookie is undoubtedly going unseat him quickly. Man You know I wanna be. Loved him for years but it just. It doesn't seem realistic from an NFL stand. Why am I mean entered Justin herb six the NFL draft I don't see them. Starting tyrod unless he gets office of OUGHT START I mean if they're two and four, one, five after those first six games, they're just there. I don't see them continuing so. I honestly have a lot of fears of it even being a quicker trying to pan that but I think six is probably right about with Iran gets yet never and that's not looking at their schedules. So let me pull that up while nearly gives his thoughts. No. Yeah. Because that's sort of the season is NBA pretty much like you said the identifier whether they continue to start him because if he does get crazy. I mean they just in Herber they got eastern stick from last year like there's there's young quarterbacks. There's no point to continue to to to run tyrod just to get you know crap wins for no reason or attempt to grab wins and I guess my my concern is how good is just in her? We're GONNA because if he's not good and you bell from tyrod like that team could get ugly quick for US fancy players. Like. I don't know man. It's just seems like a dangerous team now that I think about it, if tyrod does get pulled early. This is something that I feel like happens every offseason his there are these teams that. As fantasy players like people seem to really rally behind playmakers and this year, I feel like two of those teams that I'm seeing that a lot with that I just am strongly to see. It all work out is the chargers in the panthers I feel like everybody's really big on all of the playmakers from both those teams but I just don't I. I'm very nervous about the return on this. So I looked at no quick and in the last ten years. If I'm not mistaken. A. quarterbacks that were drafted. In the tops EXP-. While I made a mistake. If I'm not mistaken Oh. Yeah. What happens when you guys don't prepare before the? Josh trying to go off the live eight seconds. While, he's doing that much respect to Aaron Rodgers gase little bit interview. You're not join love and. When he do now, he was just saying like you know like he wasn't happy about the Jordan love pick because he knows ultimately, it means like you know his demise and Green Bay but I, he gets it. It's a business, and of course you know he could be covering up emotions and feelings there and whatever like he said, he called Jordan lover you know the day after he you know didn't want to be like a negative experience. For Him. He knew how important this was to him when he got drafted, he knows that ultimately like he feels like Green, Bay will move on to Jordan. Love in will play somewhere else at some point but yeah, it was you know he gets a really bad reputation era honors you know and whether it's you know earned or not I don't know but like hearing him be so opening candidate I, appreciate it man I respected it. Okay. So in the last ten years. quarterbacks drafted in the top six pigs like Justin Herbert was there's sixteen of them. Only one guy did not start at least ten games announced Jared Gosh? Yeah. All right. So is happening. Yeah that's that's. Blake bortles and Mark Sanchez started thirteen and fifteen games in their rookie seasons. Not Looking good for tyrod and I really hope doesn't cover is good because there's a lot of players on that team. I, like. GonNa hate to see them suck. And I really think of the quarterback is just like an efficiency governor on the players that are out there running routes and how. He's gotta be. He's gotTA. Be Pretty bad to hold back Keenan Allen and also network. Lord. I. Hope so man, hope you're right. I. Hope You're right. I'll be right I see a lot of people not that confidently guy but we'll see how it plays out hopefully it all goes well, hopefully it all goes well, the last one we have here Dobbin Cook has officially reported to camp. Can we get some kind of applause here? Something is like I'm excited about this. This is the best news of the episode for me Man I'm excited. So the question Adam is, do you trust him as top five running back? I do I've been draft on his running back the whole offseason for me. He's been firmly at number five. The thing I'm interested in is weird. Kind of all have this locked in top four. I just I wonder if cook even squeezes way in there a little bit I mean I expected to have more rushing than somebody like Kamara or you know the tension believe more passing volume than somebody like Zeke? So it it's interesting. I. Am you know Cook than a second last year amongst running back. So for me, it's like. He's firmly at five but. If if it wasn't just basketball like not just wrapping best ball where I'm more especially in the first round trying to spread out volume. I think's GonNa be questioning him against a lot of these unlike outside of McCaffrey I honestly could make the argument for Cobra any of the other three. I had to percent agree with you I have no issue with anyone putting cookie butter. What he besides you know McCaffrey and I I mean like you I was drafted. I drafted most coffee with you too So yeah I mean I have a lot of faith in man and and obviously a major concern is always the injury thing. So if you if you're not cared about that and you're not trying to predict injuries and you're not, you know worrying about injury prone quote unquote and all this Kinda stuff then I mean you cannot I don't know how you could argue the outside of it I mean like he's just that good like. Feel Salable besides the play sixteen I think you're right. But I'm not sure that reporting to camp means everything is okay like I think he might just be reporting to avoid fines and he's actually still holding out. We'll see I. Mean I think the Vikings have they haven't seemed like like against giving him more money I mean so. I won't be thinking working out of hope it's a positive gesture on his end said team by I'm here I'm ready to play. I won't come to the table now like you guys up into your half you mean, kind of put their you know put them in the in the spot like he showed up now it's your turn I mean so we'll see I think I think you'll get you know some extra money I don't know if it's a huge contract. Right now after the season or what but I feel fine about it, I feel much better and You know for those who have drafted him. I don't feel like you should be concerned you know. But again, this is twenty twenty and things can go any way man but I with Adam I feel good about him I don I don't you know besides injury thing again as always there for anybody in reality obviously his concerns a little higher but. Besides that there's nothing to say, does nothing say I feel like he gets held back a little bit because coming out of college she wouldn't rave about him either they're like everyone was a little down on 'em low down on them. So they don't wait wha- players come out and people initially are down on him on Donald Player. They never wanted like totally come around like there's always something like holding people back from fully showing love Philly Devon could get that treatment. Shall see maybe just 'cause kirk cousins quarterback now. All. Right. Let's move onto listener questions. I took out. No rank them today because we got listener questions, they were strong questions. I didn't know how much time we were going to spend on them. So I didn't want WanNa go to rank them. We're going to straight into listener questions. All right The first one I have here is from at off-field underscore mascot are boy victor shouted Victor. He's a good dude big. Supporter of the show army like the guy. We talk a lot on twitter he acts. How do we manage the pandemic through the season if the NFL is canceled? so He's thinking ahead already like a what if we play six weeks? Sir Seven weeks like does someone win the League or no? Does your Fancy League canceled or postponed like what happens I? You know there's so much. I can happen obviously the NFL capone. And come back and finish later who knows right. But how how are you guys like initially without obviously, we can't predict the future here. But how are you guys initially assume this would shake out I know a lot of leagues are already making adjustments. You Got People Making Co. VR spots. You got commissioners out there who are much more better than me a commission that are already out here like laying out rules in. Like. Hey, this is what we're GonNa do if ends this week like how are you to feeling that these things should be approached if the season does end like week eight are you like? All Right? That's it no one wins game over I to get their money back or do you feel like someone should be declared winner or you know some way to continue to proceed? How do you guys feel about this aisle Adam start? Yes so I think that all. Cancelled and postponed or two very different situation, right? Of Pollen. Advanced you did the same thing. You know you you resume it. When the NFL is, makes you play for a season you're not playing for a certain period weeks I mean, let's be realistic. They were planning to extend the NFL season. They extend the NFL season we still blame more weeks and fantasies. So for us, you know if they postpone it nothing changes in my. However I think every league needs a caveat for cancellation and I think that each league needs to kind of decide what they want that timeframe to be hersal ethic. Ten weeks is a good threshold I. Think you could even go as low as eight. Think ten complete weeks gives a good sense of what the season was and I think ultimately. If I was commissioning league, I would say that anything under ten weeks the season's on void everybody gets their buying back at ten weeks anything from there to play a full fantasy season is essentially. If it ever ends early it becomes a total points league and wherever it the time in which NFL canceled season is in the lead with the most total points they win the league personally I don't see the NFL ever canceling after week and he gets insane. So that's why I think that caveats fine because it's not even GonNa matter personally I think if the NFL gets canceled, it's going to happen within the first couple weeks or it's not gonNa Hap Gotcha and Abbas within the first couple of weeks you're like, Hey, everyone at least just dead. Essentially, I mean yeah. Canceled hurts postponed Basis. Cinder. Yeah Josh, do you agree with all that or do you have a different feeling I think all the way down to like six weeks I'm okay with the points for paying out. Okay and just call it. What it is man we all knew this was going to be. An wild. Okay. With giving a guy, his winning the six week twenty, twenty craziest season and then like with the Covid IRA thing for me personally I commissioned a few leagues and I don't want to parse out. I are I'm just I'm just making everybody that. Opts out for Covid I are eligible if it says, I are next to their name. So yeah. So I think most leagues Adamant Josh in them I think all of them may be. So I'm GONNA hand the rights over to you guys. I'll let you guys. Deal with everybody now. Shop at Neil is not going to actually. Listen I'm the, Best Commissioner out there. Just, like the present just the face listen exactly 'cause you just have to have a guy right onto you right next to Ya and he handles it man you just you just You just be the face man some people don't want the limelight is okay. Right Josh our power to the people. That's that's what that's what Neil doing here. Yeah. Just trying to make this nights I don't turn me this nice and smooth I'm already getting asked about the I. R. Spots Guys I don't know Josh Balk Daddy like I like it. And you hope it are spots. Man. I think that. it's such a touchy subject for me. I think they're fine. If you add like to her team but I seem like some leagues adding like eight, I are spots dynasty. That's crazy. I'm like dude if. We're going to start doing like it's just GonNa. It's GONNA get. So I hand I, guess at the end of the day. If there I are spots in your eight commissioner who's going to watch and make sure that people who are on or in someone's I are spotter actually missing time due to either co or an injury, and if you're an active commissioner is going to do that then more power to you. But I plan leads with some guy who isn't super active as a commissioner. It's weird I know but with situations like that I would discourage from. Having I o spots, it's going to be hard debate based Yeah I. Look at this way if you have five, six, seven, eight, I are spots guess what guys this season is likely over. So like let's not worry about that tonight I mean like if it gets out of hand where you're benching all these guys because I are for covid like the seasons probably not going to keep happening so I don't know man like, yeah I can understand maybe one or two, but I wouldn't get crazy with it for whoever that guy is not very active commissioner giving your shipment. I I y. even limit I are spots. What do you mean what? I think that if a player is on your roster in is put on the I r you should be about was put that guy on I are. That's not an advantage that you're gaining that sucks the yeah I mean if the site is out properly and that's the only way you're able to put some irs if they actually are listed on our the tastic, the thing that's terrible is a lot of sites are not set up that way and what will happen is you'll have all these irs spots, people put layers on I are, and then forget about him we wing and they will sit on their I are for an entire season and they'll be playing essentially with additional roster spots. Geyser you know not necessarily all I are they were just not used. Yeah. Think sleeper has Kobe. Response Right. I will they. I adjusted a setting today and I can't remember exactly what it said but I just I opened up I are to include more players. Again one of these things will dec- constantly evolving as a gets closer So yeah, we feel Vickerman should a stressful man was. We'll see how it evolved but it's just something that people just got to keep their finger on the pulse and Kinda, just keep adjusting as needed But yeah, I feel like a games even if he got Josh, even if it's six games I mean whatever like I I would hate for the season to be a waste for everybody and just like Oh here's your money back but I but I know if you end that thing in six games or even eight, you're gonNA, have complainers who say I didn't get a chance you've took more money at a WHO damn bad. Yeah. The way away as cookie crumbles baby at Austin underscored g underscore eight shutout to Austin. He said Dacoven precautions or opt-outs defenses around the league will be affected to the point where we may see insane fantasy numbers. What do you think about that? I. Advocate about this right he said two thousand eleven go ahead. Adam. That is pure Josh right there. You're GonNa talk, and Save, what what Adam. You do the thing that you said earlier about this exact thing. I gotta I gotTA. Say something because all I have to say is Adam was talk about this. Yeah No I. I think it's definitely possible that we see spikes fantasy numbers. Now, this is definitely a weird year but the most similar season, we can kind go off of the two thousand eleven players strike and they had a limited offseason there. This is going to be definitely way different than that. But we saw that year was a real big spice in spike in passing production. So personally, I think there's a chance for that. Furthermore, if you know, we have the. For players to this time. Additionally to Kobe or to actually sit out entire season. We're GONNA. Probably going to see a bigger hit to. Defenses, and to offense lines I, think those are going to be the two things that are going to be most impactful. The teams you know if they lose offensive Lineman, I think we're gonNA see especially if you plan leagues with a defense, still a lot of streaming defense advantage is being popped up week-to-week do offense lion missing. Due to co bid or injury or anything I think that's going to be huge and then With that in mind. I think. From a defensive side of the ball. It's just it's so much easier for an offense to exploit one big hall on defense than it is the other way around like offenses can manage with the whole are too when there's a whole on defense, the offense can choose to explain that whole overhaul rental. So I think that we're going to see that occur Millar, and because of that, we might see huge spike in in fantasy grudge. Yup just another again, another devolve and thing you'll have to keep your eye on but I do agree I think that there's a good chance at numbers. Do Know How these big splashes do this because like you said, you've been a great point with defenses it's hard to cover up. Even one difference right. But on offense is like you said, there's kind of plug and play guys earn position. There's also just. Easier kind of make shift your offense a little bit and make tweaks rather than you know defense. So I, think that's a good question from Austin. I think it's something that people should definitely be thinking about when when setting their draft near team Senate lineups yourself like think about even explosive players maybe it'll be even more have more opportunities for bigger plays and you. Know your. Miekel Harman's and those kind of guys Hollywood browns. You know this guy that might just lot of holes in the defense for those guys who may be plays a lot more at Blake B. Two to one shot Blake He had one here Devon singled airy will be the best running back in the AFC east. What do you guys think about that? I think it's on Belt I. Don't think it's every single terry and the and the lady on last season was Evan been arguments. He he had nine receiving yards sixteen epsn. He finished at Arby's sixteen. I don't think Devon Single Terry. Is going to have enough of the workload there to get past that and I think that the jets could. Get up a little bit. Better. Team. Yeah. That's definitely possible and limp levy on that was on twitter shit to Jamal Adams. He's motivated man I mean he sounds good space. You know I take that into consideration. is given workload like that's what lady on bell does and he had six rb one weeks last year. I. Think that lady on bellowed me my front runner and they ceased. Sanitary, you might not even be your second. man that's a crazy division now and everything where everything is going on top of it Adam. Do you feel any special way about them single dairy? Yeah I feel kind of a weird way which is that like. I don't know if you could be the top running back on his own team level. I think that you know Zach Moss is just as much draft capital bull third round Vicks as the. There is definitely a chance that moss gets you know the bulk of the work there. Obviously I think single terry gets the start from from the job and not having an offseason is definitely going to help him. Get the majority of touches. Your on that team, but I don't know the SEC. Obviously is kind of I mean you're talking about Miami who has Jordan our in that Rita in you know Josh already mentioned the ads and the you've got US Patriots. I don't know what to expect Adrian's this year especially with Cam rushing the ball you know there's gotta be a loss in touchdown somebody like Sony Michelle and I'm not sure how James White's going to be utilized with Cam verses out he was utilized Tom Brady granted you know Cam. McCaffrey having crazy sane receiving numbers as well. So I don't necessarily think that James White could ptr league outsource Devon singles area. So yeah, I'm not I'm not confident single. He's someone I have not drafted at eighty this year I don't feel competent him. You've been holding lead role not backfield level dean somebody who's yell a successful fantasy acid of does catching is not none of us very confident with Devon, I like the James Wise Dick I feel like he could do it. De Going. Really overlooked in drafts right now as well. I I can't recall his ADP I feel like it's do not seventh eighth round something like that and where he's going especially in full ptr leagues I think is. Is Really Nice. Definitely Lena definitely has rebuffed. Yeah. Be So feels like a say a bit all right out to Austin Victor Blakely appreciate the questions as always as geyser always super supportive of the show and super helpful with questions somebody that. So we shout to you guys Let's jump over to our. No foul have three of them for you guys today again. Fowler NFL guys. I. Have Statements that I've pulled from the Internet I've made up that. People have stated whatever the case may be. We're GONNA find out if Josh me me and Adam, and of course, he asked to play at home to how we feel about these. We agree with them or we disagree with them if we if we agree with the statement, there's no foul. We think there's something bogus about it though foul So the first we have here if you F. O.'s, there's a lot of ufo talk right now right lots of stuff the garment. Released a little bit of information here and there I, see in Canada talking about they're more transparent than anybody with this kind of stuff. So there's lots of ufo talk on are now my my thing here for you guys if you F. O.'s are proven one hundred percent not to be from Earth, right? Because we 'cause I mean even the government is green that you don't know where they're from. We don't know what they are but if they are a hundred percent confirm that they're not from Earth most people would go about their everyday life and could care less fowler novell. No foul. That is exactly what just happened. The New York Times reported that the Pentagon is stating that there are unidentified flying objects that have been recovered. That are not of Earth Orage. What does that mean? That means that they came from another planet. It's because of how it said. It's because of how it's written and it's also because. Look the world right now I, mean, if you're gonNA, tell the world about UFO's now's the time to do it. Nobody nobody's paying attention I mean it's crazy with everything that's going on right now but people just are okay with this and I think it's interesting that it's finally being talked about by major publications and stuff but. As we've talked about on this podcast before Neil and I are huge fans of the Joe rogan expanse podcast and Rogan's listenership has grown gigantic over the last decade and he's been talking about this stuff. But the whole time has been on the air. So I think his voice is probably one of the leading ones pushing this out into the mainstream and it's interesting that it's you know getting actual government releases but the timing seems. Very intentional. Yeah and that's why I put this on here because like any other time and I, you would told you to release this kind of information or you know this You know the the the objects are not earth you know like stuff or not from Earth origin. Anytime. You release stuff to me. You would have been like like crazy big like it would have been a very big deal. I. Feel like that new. York Times. Article came and went like just It has to everything Corona Cova and trump in this and that or if it's just a case of the news today or just. So into social media and everything else like me, it was just crazy. How like it just blew by was like Harley spoke about and I'm like man unless you show them little green men will they ever care like that was pretty crazy to me but I'm just you know I don't know I'm just curious if you got josh, what do you? They man like if you know, do you agree that people are just too busy care? If Ages said that they've recovered things that were not of earth origin can be like a meteorite. Nation. Yet Bud. Read the article they beat around the Bush predate they'd state that it's a crap. Why. But this isn't like doesn't the first time this shit spend. Noman a conspiracy theorist playoff in left field than just start ranting and raving about this stuff spend in the public eye for sixty years now and everybody who talks about it's been crazy but you know. It's one of those topics that I think happens a lot with anything gets lumped in this conspiracy category because there's so much information that the majority of is bullshit but then you find people who are ex military or who worked at secret military bases and worked on crafts that aren't from this world and you hear them speak and they seem extremely legitimate. Those are the things that make me question whether or not there are. Other worldly. CRAPS visiting US or. What the implications of that are I mean it's wild but I. Don't know one thing that I did hear brought up recently connection to this that I think is really fascinating and hearkening back to Rogan. They were talking about on the podcast recently that one of the first really large You folk sightings occurred in nineteen, forty two. And it occurred right after we did the first testing for nuclear bombs and I think that. You know if you really WANNA go conspiracy alley it's very interesting that citing started showing up after that event and as tension sort of escalate here. In the idea is the showing up more and more. What does that mean who knows? Idea I don't think the government even knows and I think that's the most alarming thing. But that's why it's so beautiful how it just Kinda get slid in and it'll be out of the media streak I mean that's I. Everything isn't anymore nobody as the attention spans as any longer than a minute the I I love being the guy here that builds up persona of. Adam the other conspiracy guy. And Josh the antibody flex. Her. Like this. This is great I love just bringing that out of you guys you know. Build up these characters for yes. I don't think they've got a spaceship think just it's this is the guy out of this the denier they got it doesn't want to believe this stuff man. This guy we do a whole episode on Josh and I believe in it as believing maybe we'll do it one. Who knows I merely a bonus episode An episode where we have to prove Josh and make him change his mind. I did hear man, what was it now? I heard on some podcast maybe it was Rogin that after twenty five years old. Nobody can change your mind you have to change it for yourself. I can be persuaded. Not, Berkman now that that's an interesting conversation, they'll take us down a different rabbit hole, but I think that's true Except for I don't think it's you changing yourself I. think that you change it. When you're alone I think that's what people fail to realize. There's no change there in by themselves. Everyone's in. Right. Now I guess I mean like outselves be influenced when we're alone versus when we are caught up in our own ego responding to someone that might be attacking our point of bright and I as often what happens in conversation or on social media and stuff, and I even noticed myself honestly, it's something that I think is so ingrained in our culture that people don't want to be wrong. So they always wind soon at their right and be fearful of candidate higher google system. You know a people pushing down on them for being correct or not having viewpoint about something but. From what I've noticed myself when I'm alone and watching things or researching things and looking into the VATS when my opinions of shape. But the content that I'm paying attention to is shaping my opinion it's obligates Orna vacuum right now. Yes. I mean I guess that like they they can give you the information but like you still have to make yourself believe it I mean But when you're under twenty five I, guess you can just completely like mind fucking in some way that they're just GonNa go with it even if they haven't really figured out on their own, you mean it's an interesting conversation All right. The next one here the man who bought a Lamborghini with Kobe nineteen relief funds cannot be from any other state than Florida Fowler novell. and. No. Neal's home strikes again. Yes, we do. We're strong out here man we will not let that title go. Now. I get enough money to buy. Lamborghini. Like we we have to be talking about more than a twelve hundred dollar check you. Know. He has kind of business like loans he got. Crazy amounts of money. He bought a three hundred thousand dollar beginning of man and I guess those funds were not meant for Lamborghinis and again yeah. You're asking how you got the funds Florida as I got thrown. It all comes back together. It's awful circle. So yeah, he spent a lot of money. They lamborghinis dating sites close. Guy Is still getting fly out here. Man GotTa respect respect the move the last one I have here for you. This one caused a lot of attention on twitter this week I'm GonNa dial it back a little bit to the second statement that he made but Keenan Allen is the best wide receiver in the AFC West Fowler novell. Man, that was just so silly. Okay. The best receiver in the NFL you can say silly whereby the best in the AFC west. That's super silly. I mean I. I mean I'm trying to find out where he'd rank I I. Guess You wearing second behind tyreek like I think that's probably right from a career perspective. You could even argue that he's better I. Guess. But like. That's only because he's a fat like look at. You're talking about the raiders but I don't think have a receiver that played in the NFL three seasons that you know everybody on that teams rookie. The broncos were a very similar situation. I mean Portland Sutton was rookie last year you know the the just drafted a rookie in the first round. So you're talking about teams that have extremely young players. So yeah, Keenan Allen you're the best vitamin RECEIVER IN THE AFC west tyreek ill spent. And we're not counting tight ends. Right we're discounting wide receivers, not receivers right wires. God thank God because then you'd be like force. Yeah. So yeah, I mean. I know I know Josh has stronger feelings. I feel about this. Yeah I think I'd get it to him I think given to him and being veterans should not be something that's held against you like he's had to do it for more time ats. I. Wreak is a very different kind of player. I appreciate I rake but I think I'm GONNA, give it to Kim. Nice, you also have to consider that he has Patrick Mahomes. So I mean if anyone since I mean he's still got a good. See. What I'm saying is if you gave keen Allen Patrick, mahomes like how much better would be. How much? How much would we be talking about I mean Portland sudden wasn't a rookie last year either would just to correct that Adam. He was drafted. Yup Yup Yup had to do that before twitter devotee man you're right now that was terrible. Tells you. I wasn't GonNa let you get by with that either had. You let me. It must be honest right? Where we're kind of dignity, he'll each other accountable here Adam. And quite still stands I mean Keenan Allen is the best wide receiver in the AFC west. It's just 'cause longevity. Okay. Right. Now in Fan I'm mad and I enjoyed the twitter banter man I loved it. I loved the other players jumping out there and shoot near shots. Firing back I love that he tagged a wrong Chris Godwin Tigers. Goodwin. Beautiful Messmer. That was great. But can we kilmeade seriously just talk about Mike Evans disrespect because men this guy has had an insane start to his career and no one cares. Why is that? Is it just Tampa isn't a chanting? I don't know man I really don't. Now he is such an anomaly I mean when you look at what he has done over the course of six seasons, it's while I mean never a, you're under a thousand yards this. It's just. I. Don't know it's he's one of those players that I think session `Nigma I think because everyone loved Chris Godwin. So much people just forgot that might get his boss and you know coming into this year it's just so hard to understand how Brady supports all the weapons that are there but man, it's like. When I saw you know Alan go specifically against that group players. I was just like man you've got no argument. And There's nothing I mean he's been in the League six years is never disappointed. He's always healthy. He's just he never fails to produce. Air By the way that got me into a whole. Another rant was saying that I want my players or anyone working with anyone that I'm teamed up with to say the best like if you don't have that energy if you don't have that mentality like, what are you doing man like people got mad about something he said today nominee you gotta be humbled. Take your home show grass man like. The best one on this fog. Like. If you felt that way, you should feel that way you should be like me every time I come on this park on the fucking best and. I believe Neal and Josh need to step it up. That's all is to this like. That's how you feel like you've got to feel that way to to to cracked spike this week I see that name pop. Guys that day. Are you, GonNa take Mike Evans over Kennedy Golladay. No No. It just stop. Other. That's how ADP is right now on F F calculator it is. It's pretty wild I. Don't know I mean for me. I probably should be being honest but I'm really high on the Yalta. Yet that. Man It's so tough because the issue with Mike Evans is between him and Chris Godwin who performs better with Tom Brady and then of those two just Tom Brady somehow support to top while wide receivers like add suggests even though he's done that once in his career like it just. I don't know man I just. I struggle with seeing it especially with Gronk there as well. touchdowns so The Sky's the limit for that offense but Brady is still like eighty years old. We need to we need to not forget that. Yeah. My my game has got a bad rap because number one he's in Tampa. Nobody's cared about Tampa really for the most part until now and then he's on a team with guys they Chris Cowan who just are really awesome and that's all there is to it. So like if Mike Evans found himself on a team where he was like the number one guy, no question about it, you know crazy young talented quarterback like it just would be what it is but he's not. Like this is what it is I mean. It's moving him up in ADP like Mike Evans in the third round feels disrespectful but I don't know who I'm going to take him over A. New. Todd Gurley, out of the out around that. Yeah, I mean, my Kevin's is such a hard player from you to draft even though I liked him. Simply. Because I mean where he's going, you can get somebody like Adam feeling I think deal has way more upside You know that that's just that's just where I'm at I think that that range those. Guys that to me offer more upside than Mike Evans does with Healthy Chris Godwin and Rob Gronkowski, and all the other weapons they have now wants. Yes. Sir. Yes sir. My Evans. We Love you man. We love you. And shut out the key masked and your ground boy I respect it. All right guys that's all I have for fancy football related content I. Don't know if you guys have anything else that you wanted to make sure we squeeze in the show before we shown show Intel I've got I've got one real. I saw Graham Marshall and. Aided at spot wide receivers. The, basically, trigger production is replaceable in order to that of a running back air scheme defendant. Their knocked contributing. Guys think about that. Don't matter how. Foul. I think that. Oh Man I don't know if that'd be a foul fowler no foul, but I think that more would have to be looked into. Their separation I think that's probably the spot where you differentiate a bit. Slot receivers and our ability, but you might be able to scheme for that I mean that and that that's the hardest part of the NFL is knowing what is you know the actual player on the field creating and what's being graded by scheme so It's an interesting question. It is I mean it's interesting more indepth at it maybe we should have gramont. was around idea at Laba sliders eager is at in drafted Mary late. Similar like running back L. Wednesday you can come in and. Be Good about being high and I just don't think that draft capital is at. Good of a measurement of being good. I think we're we might just added. That's wrong but. Even the in. Fedral. Wrong. But as far as the slot wide receiver thing I think it actually has more to do with just the NFL in the past not realizing how valuable the slot is. I think. Now you see teams gravitating to putting her best wide receiver on slot more often I. Mean that's why Michael Thomas was. So dominant last year's Godwin's Slob the usage so I don't know Michael Thomas fits his definition of slot lighter savior I feel like it. but what on stating is that that -sition on feel. Is Useful. By any player because of how it skied. But when you put an extremely talented player, they're the production goes route. I have to look at his tweet release dig into what he's saying before i. Comment. It was a whole threat and he cited some articles that I did not read so made. Masters how the Internet works? UFO's aren't real at but headlines If. I disagree with the idea that just because a lot of good slot wide receivers do not have draft capital that that means that the position is scheme dependent and up for grabs. Yeah. I. Agree I agree we'll I I definitely want to see is set out Salalah search forty standards me. We can talk more next week maybe come kind of intrigued by it because I am a big fan slot receiver so. We'll see how we'll see I take it out. I, don't I don't WanNa. Get Crazy on without actually look at it All right solicited over show entitled in show Intel or my favorite parts of the show. I love being able to share with you guys something that I enjoyed a lot this week you know what I mean I like I like doing that man whether it's something I've been I've been on a real gig lately I think this will be the third week in a row that I'm Sharon Netflix show I gotta I wish the Game I can't be the guy who comes into show and saw the same kind of product every week but I'm on Netflix still these days and so what I have for you guys today is a Netflix series there's only Three episodes I believe called fear city. Newark. I. The Mafia as great content, great content I. I liked Mafia stuff just generally speaking, but you have to be into the Mafia Satellite Watch. It is not like a scripted show or anything. It's just like a documentary style, Docu series whatever S-, three episodes it's not long biscuit a lot of. Interest in entertaining and stuff, and you know you watch the movies TV shows about the mob like this. It's always cool to hear from my guy who were involved in kind of Al Acid, the prisoner in the murder or like the FBI in prosecutors and how how they went about taking these guys down it was it was crazy interests and stuff like. Like just I don't know it's not as far away as I like to believe it is sometimes with like a lot of things in history like I always I always picture them like so far away. But like it wasn't that far away when they were like you know run in New York and stuff in the FBI didn't know what to do how to stop these guys. It was really cool. You hear how? They approach all this stuff I I know like it's kind of impossible now for this, all to happen like it did so like back, then it had to be when it happened just because the times are different but it was really gold the stories and everything they went through to to take the mafia down. So I definitely recommend watching it fear city New York for some Somalia have you want be in it The I don't you either one of you guys like into that kind of stuff mafia, the mob. So. I like those kind of movies. Heats up there probably my top ten movies ever but VAL kilmer. YEA, slaughtered. Nafi. Little you're trying man you're trying I respect users trying you know. But I'm I'm more into the DOCU series stuff even movies necessarily but it was it was it was really cool like they were talking about how they would like bug like Halley. Sorry to bug these guys their TV's and like their cars and stuff a you is pretty it was pretty cool stuff and What one of the crazy stories was like, John Gotti I guess was like selling drugs while he was with the Mafia and I guess you know in the mob that's a frowned upon I wanNA say was podcast. Lonzo was the main guy with whoever was like they knew what once once the FBI is at around these guys up interested in them they had him. killed like immediately suzy are released from jail because they knew that once he heard these tapes in court that they were selling drugs that he was gonNa Kill Them. So they do it. Now we kill him first before year's tapes or that's it. You know it was it was it like cutthroat and You know there was like the FBI was just doing the craziest stuff like yes. These guys it just seems crazy but I'm definitely watched it has three episodes. It's not hard to you know to consume and the one guy that was on the show talking I whenever I watch these things are like Google and the people to find out more about them and the one dude I seen him on another interview and he said he was in a news article that was. Written. About by top fifty miles guys and he said at of all fifty that were in the in the article only one is alive and it was him I was like what that's crazy. So yeah imagine being one of these guys who like outlasted all this stuff. So it was really cool to watch. If you guys some time I, suggest it Adam do you have anything for today? And I'm racking my brain over here and I did not think of any that's fine that's fine out. No I don't have anything. Sweet. Everyone mark that down Adam did not show last week and has no show until you this week. Judging Principles often judge him Judson. Josh, you'd never family man you got something. Okay. So I I saw a tweet today just outlining the average salary by country for teachers and it's no secret that the United States pays last. Got I. Really would appreciate it. If this conversation went away from how much money we pay teachers and a win two things that we can do to help improve outcomes for students because I think then people might care about it they if you just cannot winding complain and I'm a teacher about how much money you make and expect that to get people's attention if you cannot explain to them why they should pay you more and the reason why they should pay you more is because You have a case bill for that increasing or improving the outcomes of students and we're not doing that. We're just saying pay me more money and is not happening. Yeah. I had a passionate conversation the group chat about it using that So yeah, I mean I I I'm with you I'm with everyone get more money right like I don't care what you do like everyone should get more money unless you're already rich Helaba but yeah, like teachers definitely get more money. But like I said in the group group chat like I would love to see that also mean that there's more accountability. For teachers in a sense of like like I duNno I hate these systems whereas like cops hey, we need you to get as many tickets or arrested. Hey Teachers we need like every Kitty graduate or you're not doing good like I don't like that because that's not really fair for that person that's what you're putting them in a spot where like hey, you want me to do wrong just so i. look good year because that's the only way I'm GonNa pass every single kid or I'm going to find someone to everyone's breaking the law every day like it's just it's I know it's a broken system to me and so I hit it that's like the the grain system for teachers I mean. There's there's a subtle implication when you say if we pay teachers more, it would be better. What you're saying is either teachers can just do better if they were motivated or you are saying if we got better people to be teachers, it would be better for and we're also saying at people equals people who take jobs just for more money. Exactly. Shit right? Not Everybody in the world is searching through the One ads and just picking the one that has the highest number. Over wants to do things that we actually care about and the money's not number one factor and I just wish that we would move the conversation to what can we do to make things better for students instead of war were doing currently. On which Josh? Thank you for sharing that Josh Adam step your game up. Of Mafia Talk Josh's dropping in teachers pay salary talk. I mean at least come in and conspiracy your to atom come no here. Here's a conspiracy while jaspers talking I refreshed Youtube what my number one recommended video is. The fighter in the kid on New York. Lafayette Fear City. Man Utd. Heard. Of this thing until you just mentioned it I hit refresh and it's the number one recommended thing. Is Crazy man. This week and friend of mine told me that they had a vitamin D issue and I have not Kgab it. I haven't surged it and today I got an email about vitamin. D supplements. Understand how this works? It's crazy like if you look into Lake I'm pretty sure it's fact will give you looking even into like TV's like on the price of TV's and how they've dropped dramatically I read an article I forget I don't know how do you really fact check it that much. But it said something about the fact that like the companies aren't actually making a lot of money off TV itself, they're actually just making the money off what they sell all. Your information and I'm like Damn. That's pretty scary like I know you're probably take talking about Oh. You know what you watch when you watch like, what else are you stealing from me that you're selling to people and make money off me? I mean like it's pretty crazy stuff when you look into all that kind of stuff that's why I think it's funny when the government's like we're GONNA ban TIKTOK goes China spying on his bro, your spying on us like what the hell. I. Is So, ridiculous similar the craziest thing ever. To the extent that have benefits me like if you're going to market me things that I actually want and would use than fine. What we'll wait wait I have a show until now. I just thought of a documentary that literally talks about this exact subject that I watched like I like a year ago I think. It was called. Site it's called the great hack. Up But but yeah, I don't know. It's a really interesting topic I mean there are. that. There's a lot of money and data. That's for Dang de it's one of those things where I didn't know there was until there was. And everybody else was late to the party except those who made a lot of money off it I Man Crazy Times Crazy Times folks will listen. 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The Sedano Show (HR 2)

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The Sedano Show (HR 2)

"Donald show here on ESPN LA lines hanging out with us today on a Friday mama Momo's on the line. Now. Whatever moaner what's going on? All I can speak about the. Don't be day Coulter, dre culture. You know what time it is? Right. This is a real thing mobile. I said you're gonna come on. You're gonna back me up at this is a representation of the current state of NBA culture in twenty nine hundred ninety s and, and can we go a little further and talk about something that, I don't think people fully appreciate yet, like Drake. Is it paid brand ambassador? This isn't just like real fan life like your share or like this. Hold on challenge flag. This isn't just what are you saying? I mean, this isn't right. This isn't real fan life right now. This is bigger than real fan life. No. He paid to be a fan is literally paid, right? Let me ask you this before we get into the Drake staff, and the and the stuff with the at the game, we were just talking about the Doc Rivers fine. And clearly I think that's worth it at fifty grand. But my thing is this. He was brought on to give analysis on ESPN and what you know. So he made a comparison, which by the way, Tracy McGrady made the exact same comparison on the jump this week. And he's getting fine. I think it's stupid. Like, what are we doing here with this? I by the way, just for the record. I thought it was stupid. When magic said that Janas would bring a championship to the bucks, and he got fined fifty grind for that. Like we need to create better rules, here Momo, because it feels like we've just kind of jumped the shark with the tampering stuff at this point. Yeah. I mean I I'm with you. I thought both stupid, right? That got me about the clippers fine today was that, you know, it's not like they didn't like tell the NBA that Doc Rivers was going to be on this show. This was approved like this was, like, you know, and the nature of the show was, like this is NBA finals preview show. So like what's he's not talk, but any player in final like happens to be a free agent. You know, I don't know. There's a. I think they kind of had to find it because they find magic for saying the same thing. But I think both are stupid. Things a little ridiculous. But the idea of that Colli was not going to go to the clippers, but because dot compared him to MJ on this right show, what actually turned deal. I'm in now, do you think however, Ramona that the outcome of this series one way or other four Kevin Durant four quiet Leonard has any impact on their free agency this summer? Yeah, I do. Okay. Yeah, I just I just think things matter like this. I just know. Like I remember covering the Braun last time he was in Miami. And, you know, Rich Paul had a quote to me has something like, you know, the outcome of the series again affect his vision. Nope. Absolutely did if they would've won that series bronze not leaving. Three in a row. He was gonna stay. Yeah. I saw Brown was gonna leave Miami like. And I thought who was always an option to come back. But I didn't think it was we then and then that team just looked old. They just got, you know, everybody got old overnight, and Brown was like I'm bound right like that was that was kinda how that win. So I, I don't know. Like if the raptors win is really hard for quiet lease. I still think he does. I, I know there's like this, like, sort of flicker of hope that he would stay regardless because he does enjoy Canada that you have, you know, nice nice young team that he can continue to contend with in the east. But like I know I just I just think the guy is in pretty clear. He wants to be back home in California. He has house there what he has wanted the whole time. This is it you know, he wanted that before anything with south with the with the Spurs. I mean this is a pretty consistent desire. And I it's not like Paul George. Paul George is, you know, is from Palmdale. But he's, you know, like good fishing. And you know that kind of a lifestyle very Oklahoma. A lot of a lot of fishing trips in your history. They were motive actually I do. My dad used to take me up. Go fishing up in the Sierras cousins. I know that like real fishing lifestyle. There's a show. I wanna see Momo interviewing MBA players bench suggested because I was telling we were telling stories about, like, PJ Carlesimo amigo and on the road with him and eating like awesome. Restaurants, late at night, algebra shoot. Oh, and Pino talking to Friday. So bent says that we should pitch that as a show that, basically, it's just late night dining in NBA on the NBA circuit. Yeah. Well might last night I catch and a couple of the guys, you know, and the raptors like hey, add team Danny green in a while. I haven't been around the raptors lot. Right. And, and we're catching up and then all of them, though at some point as they're leaving like. Yeah. About to go out. Yeah. I just gotta catch dinner before they all the restaurants. This is like twelve thirty at night and Toronto, and they have like certain restaurants that will stay open that they, you know, in big cities, espec-, especially, but even in like most of like that hold member a couple years ago that whole home city thing like the restaurant that kit. Wouldn't let Kevin Durant in. Yeah. That steakhouse right there, next to the famous the haunted hotel. Yeah. Here they always say are actor gains all of the under five thirty eat. And that's where like Haiti had always done eat after play. And so that's why that was such a big beef because that was he, he was like business partners without owner of that restaurant. And they were going to be opened. It's like the only place in town to go get dinner after momma. What is Johnny or something? Yeah. What, what, what is, what is Katie status? So I caught him. I this is like very is like very unglamorous reporter life. You don't you know, my reporter life. Listen, I, I was trying to leave. And we're overall taping something for Katie Nolan here. It's going to be kind of funny, when she puts out later but it's an I'll believe walk over to shoot with Katie, and then as I'm leaving I see Kevin Durant walking to the warriors locker room. And he looked like he just finished his. Workout. So I was like, oh, maybe I'll just like linger and I'll just bump into him after he I says, or you know, comes back out and I'm thinking this is going to be like ten or fifteen minute. Wait, right. Nope. He was in there for over an hour getting treatment on that on that, right? Calf muscle. And he came out. I didn't see any live. He he looked like he got a pretty decent work. I mean, I, I saw commend he was all sweaty at he'd worked out. You gotta get a pretty run, and then did an hour of treatment. And I, I guess I was lucky it was only an hour 'cause he's, he's doing whatever he can get back. And I think I mean obviously he's out per game, too, but we have basically whole nother week before game three and if he's getting closed they're down to like I wouldn't be surprised all plays game three and you know, definitely think starts warm up. I gave force. I think that's the expectation les. Yes. Some kind of setback. Willis retype situation where if he comes back, it's for a motion reasons if they go down. Oh, two. Or is there a chance that he could actually contribute? You know, history will while he's remember that will is reading the guy may two shots. And that was it. Right. It was an emotional thing. So is there a chance where you can give them twenty nine and thirty five minutes? I think there is actually I you know what it is about injury. Ben, it's like the kind of injury like he actually might feel fine walking around and doing stuff, but you have to really make sure your back because if you there's definitely a high risk of re entering it, it's not like the Kathy Bill again, anytime. So you just if you rush should take off the rest of the series, I think I think you should just sit at home rest up for next year and say, health and Kevin, don't push it. Right. I think that's fine. But you're missing something here. Okay. And it's like. The warriors and players like Kevin Durant. Like when you start to okay. He's got two titles. He gets three now you're starting to get in that same conversation with magic and Jordan. I mean, like like you're getting up there. You know, you got the warriors are gonna four if they win all you need any one more to catch Koby one more catch Bajic two more to catch Jordan, like like, once you start getting up in that air like the Arab there. Right. Like, you know, pretty pretty tempting like you still wanna leave any any championships on the table. I mean I you have. No. You're absolutely right now. I thought this was going to be the coronation of his career. And this would be his ascension to top five top ten status or something. And that's not what's happening. Right. So if they win like I get why wouldn't you wanna try four in a row? No one's done that since Russell. Yeah. I mean that's, that's the pitch right? Like the well, no, okay. I'll tell you the page, the pitches, you know us, and we know you and maybe it doesn't feel like family. But that's exactly what family is. Man. We don't all have to lighter, so good, these NBA teams gotta get you in the room, you're so much better than billboards and steak dinners. You got this down. The who need safer, that was great, keep going. It, it does make sense. Go ahead. Yeah. I mean, you know, Canada's been went to three or four different high schools. This is this is his second team, but like you know, do you really wanna be guy who just jumps around from lily pad to lily pad? We know you, you know, as you know, are good bad ugly. Like there's no surprises here anymore. Plus we're all gonna go over to the chase center and make a bunch of money. And when we're titled, let's went forward, five six that's your pitch. It's not about, like it's not about, like, hey, will can result change. It's about we know each other. And that's kind of what family, I and I think that, yes, I do them rant leaves. Right. Like I've always, I've just thought that all year long. And it's not just because, you know, we all would love to see the Knicks peak rate again. I'm I'm with you. I'm not been. I just I, I think it bays, better when the next grade, and at least good, they don't have to be crazy. They can. Good. How about just competent? Who are we start there just competent like like the NBA needs to have this as it's where guard be rock? And again, I just I just need to see that happen. Okay. And, you know, put out neither the really happy to six is your again, I really have to, you know, the clippers have got staple center going again. Let's see what the Lakers, like it's just I'm a I'm a big Sadie kinda girl. I like it with no Caesar good. You know, so. But I, I think for the warriors, and Kevin, it's like they this is this should not just been like a, you know, a little pop in when if you titles bounce. This is like a long term relationship that they thought they were for me. Nothing went wrong. Like, that's the nothing went wrong in this relationship. It's just you know what do you want wanna be a guy? Sticks it out. Or do you want to be a guy who just kinda jumps along? You know, it moves onto a different place. Every few years dog, you want to be in it for the long haul. I totally get it. Ramona Shelburne ESPN NBA, insider, mama, MoMA. We love her mama. Thanks for making time. I we'll talk to you soon. You got it the Drake culture forever. See. All right. Coming up next. We're those good. Yeah, we're playing spelling bee the spelling bee yesterday we had an eight way tie. You get to compete against Ben here. The rules, three different categories. You can pick from MLB NBA, or NFL you compete against Ben, if you beat Ben best two out of three we're going to give you an ESPN LA goodie bag. So line it up now. Eight seven seven seven ten ESPN back in thirty in thirty three minutes back in three minutes. Hide Saddam show here on ESPN LA, Ben lines here. We got a short segment. So yesterday was the spelling bee. There was an eight wait tie because those kids were so damn smart that they went forever. They could have gone the whole damn night, eight wait. So ridiculous. So here's organ, do you're going to compete against Ben. If you if you beat Ben best two out of three okay? You're going to get an ESPN LA goodie bag. That's how we're going to do this. We're gonna play it at four thirty five thirty and six thirty in honor of the spelling bee the script spelling bee yesterday. And if you lose a photo wearing a Knicks hat in tweet me. Yeah. So what we're gonna do. I got I what we're gonna do is. And you get show. Here's the deal. We're going to get your three categories okay? You have NFL NBA or major league baseball. And you can pick those we're not, spilling terms or rules, these players these players names yet. These are players names, if you play a lot of fantasy you're going to be meanness probably, yeah. Probably will be the case, so we're going to start with let's see. Let's go with Rick in LA. Rigged your first, buddy, you're ready. Rick. I cho- pick a category, NFL fund, you give me some music like just something to play under you. Pick pick whatever category. NFL MLB or NBA. Let's go in avail. Okay. Hold on a second. Let me find NFL. Right. Hold on one second sorry lost the page. Alex trebek's job is safe. Yeah. For sure. I'd say Jack's job is safe. You're good short Sodano game show host. How about this, this one should be easy? You'd think running back. Devante freeman. Okay. Spell his name first and last. The. A. V. O. N. T. E. F. R E, E M. He in devante Freeman that would be incorrect. That would be the correct. You got that one wrong. Then I'll give you a chance to steal. Devante Freeman big little e apostrophe, big V, O, N, T E. Devante now for. Get out of here. All right. So there's that you want to try a lot. They do you want to try another category. Co NBA try via okay? Let's try NBA. Let's see. Now I'm gonna go with see see this one. I don't want to give those are Knicks players. So I feel like you'll know them. So let's try to go different low s e Arn, no. All right. Let's go with. Former UCLA Bruin, Luke Emba moot. Just go with the last name Imbaba a move. Okay. Ambaum. Muthu. Yeah. Yes. Being a. Eight. A. Oh. You know, hey. He got that is correct. Oh, Imbaba moutain got it. Got it. He offense but an Owen his name show, Ben, you get your chance NBA. So we're gonna go NBA. If you don't get this, you should be embarrassed already. Yeah. I Mario has own. Yeah. Oh. How do you spell the Brun stopper? See zone. Yeah. H. E. Z O, N J. That's correct. Right. So here is this is the last category. This is the last category. Goody goody, bag, Rick ready. Go pick up category. Let's stay NBA. All right. Dwayne wade. Can you repeat, that Dwayne Wade use it in a sentence? Swain way was the two thousand six finals MVP. Toby cheating, man. You gotta go. Yes. The way the W A Y. That's correct. That's correct. Sorry. Rick though, D Y. Yeah. Check to buy. So that's Ron. Let's try Ryan in Pasadena Ryan, what's up? Hey, what's going on rhyme? Why wouldn't you want? So you ready what, what category, you wanna pick NBA? Okay. And. Let me see if we've got somebody, and be a that would be good. Okay. Let's go with Frank. Nila. Kena. Knicks point guard. Frank, ntilikina. Yeah. Let's go with the last name. We know you know how to spell Frank. Okay, good. That an I L. Hi. No, no, go ahead, Ben. It's. T. R A, S, H, trash go good. And TI L, I K I N A the. And that's right. Yeah. You got. She graduated college know how to spill zone Nick Neil Akil. Okay. Go ahead. You got another category, though, Ryan, you could still win this the next to all right? Let's go NFL. Okay. NFL dumb. Akon sue. Go and. A. K a, you know, that's correct. Sorry, buddy. You wanna try one more to see if we can get a winner, because if not, we'll have to go back to five thirty. We'll try five there in Los Angeles can beat me in spelling. Fernando's you ready category? Yes. I'm ready NBA. Okay, NBA. Let's go with semi Osceola of the Boston Celtics, semi Odelay. That me all the only just go the last name Odelay. Odelay. Oh, three. Oh, zeno. Correct. Steel. OJ you w directive rocket. All right now, the next category Jose quickly. You could stick NBA, right? If you want. Okay. How about this? Philadelphia, seventy Sixers. Boba. Mariano vich. Yeah. It's a B. O B. A N, right. Marjanovic. M. A. R. J. A. N. O V. I C. Yeah. Right. Good job by you. So you get one more and you win a category. No NFL. Okay. NFL. Let's see if I can pick a good one in repa- for San Fernando. Let's go Jose. Yeah. Definitely. Let's see. I I'm just gonna ask you for the last name here. Former NFL pro bowler. From Cal nam the Asamoah quarterback. Dan? I've heard of them. Okay. Then that's fine. I'll give you another one. I'll give you another one. I'm the awesome. Okay. I'll give you another one. If you haven't heard of him, that's fine. I will do that. Let me see I let's do this married at Lincoln. Devante atoms wide receiver Green Bay spell. Devante adams. Allante atoms. The e. Now you got Iraq check, we'll play again at five thirty. We'll play again adviser. No winters in the first round of it. It's. I think it's easier said than done. I know hockey players shutters and Smith's. No. Well, you do a hockey, if you want all coming up next. We've got Ben at the movies and actually we have been in the movies. The movies what's coming up after that five fifteen Nick free del? We'll get a warriors report from Nick video, and then five thirty we'll go back to the spelling, bee back in four minutes here on this show on ESPN like three minutes, actually sit down a show here on. ESPN LA. That was fun. Even though you guys in win. We've got the ESPN LA goodie bags. We're doing again at five thirty. I'll is happy. I knew how to spell new Akina. I mean you did a good job on your squad. So you it would be disappointing if you didn't get it on a constant Wayne, right? As well. It's a commonly fell he did. I d y nos DWI DWI. Are they said DWI, I think it's no but it's not the way you're thinking is. Oh, it's DWI. Yeah. Yeah. Because needs farewell tour teams put it up wrong Jumbotron. Right. Yeah. George g e o r g George. Yes. Though I go home. Hey, Jay or J? So I real quick. We got a short segment here time for Ben at the movies funny. Gimme some music, they'll Hollywood, a lot of movies coming out. Summertime is basically here. We got five movies here. We're doing other five movies in the six o'clock hour. What do you got from here? I'm gonna give you this synopsis. You tell me and by the way, just for people who don't know, like Ben Lyons is Mr. movie really like you weren't in the Oscars. You work Golden Globes this year. Right. Golden globes. You also did a you're like on the biggest movie review show in the world. That's right. I was yes. It's lasted one year but you were. We're on the show, everything I cover everything. I don't know if people know that like you were on the biggest movie review show in the world in indication on television funny, and you deserve those kind of profs. No, let's get right through it. I'll give you this enough. This I'll tell you who's in the film when it's coming out. You tell me if you wanna go see it, you're going to spend your hard earned money take time away from the family and go check it out somewhere. We got ten films. Let's get right to it. All right. The first one opens on July twenty six it's about a faded television actor and stunt, double as they strive to achieve fame and success in the industry during the final years of Hollywood's golden age, the nineteen sixties. Are you going to go see this movie on July twenty six at stars? Leonardo Di Caprio. Brad Pitt Margot Robbie? Oh, that's the Tarantino film. Harshly yesterday during the finals again, the NBA finals becoming a launching pad for big summer movies to show their trailers. So once upon a time in Hollywood opens on July twenty six. All right. So you're gonna go see that. Yeah, I'm in. I'm in on any Tarantino movie this I now I don't wanna give away the title with this synopsis. But the, the stars of this film, they've always protected earth from the scum of the universe. And now in their latest adventure they tackle their biggest threat to date a mole in their organization. Will you go? See this film that opens June fourteenth with Tessa Thompson. Chris Hemsworth and Liam Neeson. Yeah. I'm not interested in men in black men in black international not interested. Now, I mean, I will what I will go to the movies to watch it. I'll watch it at some point. But I'm not going to the watchmen and black internet. It looks really bad and forced check a lot of boxes. And I don't see this one having legs or stick it. All right. Eighteen age explorer leads her friends on an adventure to save her parents and solve the mystery behind a city of loss gold written by Nick. Stoler who did the Muppets and get him to the Greek? And it also starts beneath the tour opens August ninth. Don't know the movie. What did you the movie I guarantee you, you go and see this, and I guarantee you probably see it multiple times Dora? And the lost city of gold, Dora the explorer, my daughter will be show into Donald's. All we can you might actually have to go in character. Yeah. I'll check it out. I'll check it out. My daughter's gonna want it. My five year old is going to be in on that, for sure. We'll definitely see that. All right. Here's okay. There's probably another cartoon movie. I'm sure at some point, this is this one is going to be the sleeper hit of the summer at a chance to see it at Sundance. It's set in the nineteen eighty s during the days of Margaret Thatcher's Britain, were a teenager in the suburb, learns to live his life, understand his family and find his own voice through the music of Bruce Springsteen same director into Chata as bend it like Beckham opens August fourteenth. Not no clue. What is it? It's called blinded by the light. Okay. True story of a Pakistani kid in this British suburbs. Who in the eighties became obsessed with Bruce Springsteen that sounds like something that will get nominated for an Oscar, though, totally? I it's rush Sunday indie film, right? Yeah. You feel great soundtrack. I will check that out. That's one of those rings scenes. All support gay the movie, one thing you need to know about me. I am. I will watch. This is how I get to the movies. Okay. It either tugs at my heartstrings like from my childhood. Right. So the occasional superhero movie will do that. Or like, you know, Star Wars Star Trek, even like those kind of things. And or if it's like Fru Fru high falutin, Oscar nam, I'll go check that out. That's me. I'm a snob. When it comes to that, I got one for you and other Sundance movie a young man searches for his home in the ever changing city of San Francisco, that seems to have left him behind with mostly unknowns. Except for Danny Glover and again out June. Seventh, dan. Glover don't know. But I mean on, Danny Glover already. So what, what is the title last black man in San Francisco? Oh. And it's one of the most beautiful movies I've ever seen really. It's produced by Brad Pitt in his company plan b the last black man in San Francisco opens, June, seventh and is going to be talked about all through awards show. That's opening this weekend. There you go. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Last next week. Yes, we can actually get next week on time for one more. Sure. Sure. Let's see. But Papa oh here we go. I think this might be maybe something bigger more mainstream ago. Vol, man, Lou cobs and outcasts decker Shaw form, an unlikely alliance when a cyber genetically enhanced villain threatens the future of humanity opens in August. With the rise. A furious. That's right. The fast areas, thanks. There's no chance odds and shows zero chance. I'm going elva as a cyber genetically saw the preview when I went to go see what movie did I see recently? Oh, the avengers movie when I went to see the avengers movie, I saw the previews, and I was laughing as I'm watching the preview, I'm like, but there is zero chance. I will go to the theatre to watch it as you know, I live my life, one quarter mile of time I will definitely be going to see Hobson Shaw. I'm so funches in for odds and Shaw. I think I will be by a Mardian baby. Plug in San Francisco. That sounds it. But that's something I'll wait for cable. It's gonna be nice. Nobody version who last Blackman Houston went straight to DVD on. I really when I when I go to of move because I want to wind. You're not to watch the last five minutes if I'm gonna watch it just not probably going to go to the theater guy. Support man. I would love this. I want your cocoa this most of these most of these movies that are up Foster's. I don't see a lot. I just don't bro. Just just. I'm not that guy. Everybody's talking about it seeing. It's culturally enough for me just show you there. Sean. Are we got a couple more? We'll do in the six o'clock this time of year summer movie season, all the Sundance counties is the best. We'll be what do you think? Robert Patterson is Ben man. Oh, let's get to that in trending. We'll do that in trending also in trendy. We've got more on Kevin Durant. There's an update their stick around for that. We're back in four and a half minutes here on ESPN LA. So down show here on ESPN LA one hour from now, Jeff Van Gundy, will stop buying chat with Ben and I saw Jeff Van Gundy, leader, great American. He's on Drake. He's I saw him today on the job. I want to get into that a little deeper with him. And obviously, we'll talk series with him Nick free del will join us in twenty minutes. Nick free del covers the warriors for ESPN just kind of get an update on. What's going on there with Nick and just kind of the state of the warriors right now real quick before we get to what's trending? There's a cool thing that's actually trending right now on actually, you know what? Let's just do it. Let's get get to try and do it because that's we'll do it live. Exactly. What's trending is brought to us by our friends at the dudes brewing company. With five tasting rooms in southern California, Torrance, Santa, Monica Santa Clarita, Huntington beach in Thousand Oaks to order beer from the source go to their website, the dudes brew dot com, so literally something that's trending right now on Twitter is a conversation that's being had about what was your first CD that you purchased up mine. I could tell you, I remember it vividly vanilla ice to the extreme nineteen ninety two the extreme rocked the mic like VIN. I q predator album, being eleven years old and having to hide it from my parents, do you remember your first CD, Mike, I don't man. But I think it is in that category, Jackson lethal injection for sure. But I remember that clearly but I don't think that was the first one hit me because I bought, I got someone to buy NWEA from me, but it was a cassette. It wasn't CD yet. But I rock tapes a lot longer because I did tapes in vinyl DJ in highschool. So and it CDs were expensive. They were expensive. So you could. Get tapes for wage way cheaper. And you couldn't really burn CDs back then. Yeah. Like you can't record because quote on one to one today. I was doing that all the time. Yeah. Yeah. So that's that's going on, on Twitter, who starts that. Steph gentlemen, from Bleacher report named David Gardner, and it just kind of has blown up, basically. Yeah. So next we go to some actual sports. Nick nurse is trending right now. Jackie macmullan. The great Jackie MacMullan did a story about his crazy unconventional journey to the NBA. I've been Nick nurse STAN as a funky and Mike. No, I have been talking about Nick nurse all season because I, I've had a number of games with Toronto this year. And I just find it to be super engaging. He had a lot to do with their win last night. I agree. I think I think he was great. Yeah. I mean his defensive strategies in the playoffs have been fantastic. But do you believe that someone like this? Right. Who has an unconventional path? Do you buy that players around the league will give him the respect because what ends up happening is if you aren't a guy who, like was an NBA guy like he wasn't he wa- he didn't come up to the general ranks came up through the G league coach in Europe, he coached all over the place. Do you believe that a guy like that can garner the respect that he deserved? I think. They're the most respected guys because I think NBA players recognized that their journeys in conventional and they respect the grind. They respect the hustle. And they realized that in order for you to make a name for yourself as a coach what you bringing to the table. If you don't have the legacy of a hall of fame playing career. Right. Most of the iconic players turn out to be lousy coaches, right? I the Jeff Van Gundy's in the grinders. Brad vice versa. The guy Scholtz weren't superstars are good coaches Ville. Jacksonville dryly Pat Ryan, they would just amateur. Runs a role player. So I think when you like let's say next year Vince Carter just wants to be a head coach. I don't know if that's going to work. I think you big of a superstar superstar to name and doesn't think players respect hard work, and whether it's in the media, whether it's a coach whether it's an announcer. They respect the grind and put it in your ten thousand hours, Nick nurse. I think there should be origin stories. Forget the avengers in all these superheroes, we're talking about there should be origin stories on the basketball coaches who aren't former players because they're packed to the league is always unique in in different next week. Go to Ben and Jerry's you what's your favorite, Ben, and Jerry flavor, by the way, you, give me chocolate peanut butter, anything fish food is pretty together. That's my favorite one fish. Have you ever had fish food? No fish. Food is chocolate ice cream with marshmallow in it and dark. Chocolate little like you know, you see, like the goldfish that you eat pepperidge farms. Well, they're like that size. But they're dark chocolate gold. I'm usually eating my fans from eating paramount. Moore's Sunday scared, gene. Nice cream. Yeah. If you've never had Ben and Jerry's fish for life role. Don't eat ice cream by herself. What do you mean? What do you have it with another person? Oh, I don't eat. I don't drink by yourself. Right. I don't subscribe to that. I screaming go into a salt and straw by myself, so weird look really. Let's go. I never see. I'm I'm a penalty hotdogs indoors. Yeah. I've never had a dog indoors now that I think I think about it, but here's the things like I'm a person who does a lot of stuff by myself, because I like being by myself. For example, my wife doesn't like movies, the only movie she likes are movies of books that she's read or she'll go to the cartoon movies because of my kids. But so I go to the movies alone all the time, like I. So I enjoy that. Like I'm okay eating alone. I remember the this sounds depressing going to the movies alone, and you're eating ice cream alone there that sounds like a really Dr cool with it. So I'll give you an example now. So the last time I went to the Super Bowl, we win as with the morning show me and Kia now z. And we all had we all had different. I mean l z, I think left at a different time I had the same flight, but I arrived at a restaurant didn't know that. Was there and Kiwis eating there by himself key? I've run into eating by himself eating alone. You got all the time I do it all the time, Jarrell eating ice cream alone going into an ice cream. Delineation here. What is their line of demarcation on his right about, then yes, it's not just. It's not just. Catch when you're eating ice cream alone when you're eating with other, what y'all far more I'm gonna put a sharing with other people. I'm gonna put up a poll, what's worse, drinking alone or eating ice cream alone is, that's, that's put up a poll. Okay. I'm putting up a bowl. I put up a poll. Let's keep it with what's trending. Who do you want to see play Batman here? The options, Robert Pattinson, not a British dude, Anthony Mackie's shot, the Mackey and Kobe, surprisingly covy one forty two percent. Wanna see Kobe play Batman, but Robert vans, and got thirty four percent through a lot of people hating on him. I'm a big fan. I always have been. Do you like the call? Robert Patterson is the next dark Knight. No. I, I mean I guess they're going young. Bruce, wayne. Right. Like that's kind of the point. I don't know. I mean that's, that's fine. I guess I didn't have the visceral reaction everyone else I wouldn't fund. She showed it to me the first time like almost two weeks ago to get it. But the born more, I think about it, like I don't like I wasn't into those movies that he did the werewolf movies, too. Light or whatever you kind of look like Taylor lowder's ankle. Okay. Cool kind of look like Jacobs, uncle fair. But he's like beating of one on one in the woods like in basketball, and you say, I'm turning into a wolf so I can finally dunk on you own coal. Yeah. I'm glad she was basically, teen will here you're saying, okay. It's like I've seen that script before I'm glad and waste my time watching those movies that. No. He those movies are ridiculous. You're the movie guy, why I'm Robert patents. I think he's terrific in his post twilight films. He did a film called good time from the softy brothers, which is nuts and other movie called damsel. He's on these smaller Artie. 'cause MAPA Lewis these Kronenbourg movies. He can really act. People forget about Batman and you're not playing Batman. You're playing Bruce Wayne. Right. So can Robert Pattinson P a lonely disgraced billionaire? Yeah. It's kind of what he is quite okay. So I think like it was some demonize. He'll be fine. People freaked out and heath ledger. Got the joker one. That's true. That's one of the great performances history movies. I though you're listening. In Los Angeles. And I never finished the Ben and Jerry's thing. So Ben and Jerry's announces that they're having CBD infused ice cream and could be coming soon. If the FDA allows CBD in food and beverages. I know you think CBD's kind of boring, but no, no, I don't actually I was joking but. I'm into it. If it's regulated in terms of dosage, I think some of these places especially here in Los Angeles, right, there just throwing CBD on everything. Yeah. Oh, would you like some CBD on your nachos now? So I think you have to be very careful with the dosage of the cannabis plant. Matt Barnes, agrees me cool. This is a boxing thing. That's trending right now a little potential match. So it looks like Deontay wilder. And Tyson fury could have a potential rematch. Now, Deontay wilder is having a rematch with Lewis King Kong or TS here in September. Mike, you're the big boxing aficionado. I, I was stunned that Deontay wilder did what he did to Luis Ortiz. Well, I think is a very good boxer. So I like the fact that those are fighting again, but are you interested in wilder fury rematch, which I thought was a very close. I definitely am interested because I also gre- that it was a close fight. And I think it's, it's watchable you like it has you intrigued because it was. Closed. So let me ask you a question. What happened with Anthony Joshua? Who is he? He's fighting some no name guy like what happened there, man. I'm trying to see I believed that his opponent was hurt in, then this guy is a standing standing, and it's pretty much literally a standing guy any Joshua's, the Steve Gutenberg of boxing. It's like why did he become Tom Hanks? Like he could've right. He's right there. He could have been a huge movie star, and he did it who's ever managing Anthony, Joshua's careers during the horrible job, get them out there to be a huge star this while they're you spend two seconds or that dude's a super slow, he's trying to Anthony, Josh is making a lot of money, just in England, a lot of money in the police academy movies, but he's become a star even notice fight is a dud. But this is I fight in the US in New York. So he's trying. I'm with I'm with you, though. Deontay wilder is entertaining and must see television. So sign me up for whatever that dude does. So here's another story funny. Maybe you can explain to me, it's been a long time. So I've seen this movie, but Sasha baron Cohen confirms that borat broke up. Pamela Anderson, kid rock's marriage. What's the what's the bag on that? I don't remember what she in the movie. Yeah. The premise that movie borat was at like he was in love with Pamela, all that he was a road trip to find pay, right? Right. Right. Right. Right, right, right, right. So kid rock broke over there, because of that, like, really is this your world? I can't think of a movie that I've seen that when I saw for the first time I laughed as hard now that was hilarious favorite comedy. There's that really uncomfortable fight scene the naked fight scene and Kim Davidian shoutout to can't who plays his manager like he is. He's speaks English. She's an election to like you not expect his before. It's in that movie, but a lot of our favorite comedies. We love them. Because you watch them twenty thirty forty times and you repeat the lines and you notice certain things, but the first time I saw. Aw borat. I don't think I've ever laughed this hard to the movies. Yeah. I thought it was one of the funniest movies I've ever seen. All right, next. We've got we've talked about this a little bit today. Doc Rivers fined fifty thousand dollars for his comments on if you miss what dachshund on ESPN just a few days ago. Here's what he said that got him. Find the most like Jordan that we've seen there's a letter break place. Lebron is phenomenal phenomenal. But not that he is Jordan or anything like that. But he's the most likeable big hands host game can finish great leaper great defender inbetween game if you beat him to the stop bumps you off. And then you had his three point shooting, you know. So in the other way. In the other way, never get in that who's the best player. You know magic is the best player. You know Michael Jordan was the best player LeBron, but the is that same group show, Adam silver has chimed in as to why he find Doc Rivers, I would just say dachshund long time. It's not a fun job every anyone. And I understand feeding interests of the media hearing coaches view about a current MBA player something where there's a bright line. I'll have to do it and coaches or executives. Checkers positions to say I'm not committed by the league to respond to that question. It's and it's, it's a balance of interest. I understand that, but, but he unfortunately crossed the bright line. I mean a bright line bright line like that's where I would push back. Like, I don't know man. He's doing analysis on ESPN much like magic was asked about Jaanus is potential, and he said he was going to probably be win the bucks championships. Like if you really think about what he said, he said he has big hands and he's got a good mid ridge game. Right. So if you're interviewing him after a game in which they played or if I asked him in the middle of the first quarter third quarter in one of the games like, let's say I was doing clippers raptors like what he does. You know what I'm saying? Hey Kawais going off. What do you make of him? You know, he's looking like Jordan out there. He didn't shy. He's plays same thing. It's the NBA and their fines are factoring in the climate around a player's recruitment. So it's not that doc said anything that's out of line. It's that. The clippers are pursuing Colli. We all know that, right? He basically if you played that clip he's really about to just continue. Phrasing him saying he's got a great mid range game. Great hands family man, really fun to be around great values going to support the quick. He's really just praising him. And so I guess you're just not allowed to praise other players on other teams that the rule, I guess. That's now the rule I guess I mean it's bright line of coordinate him silver what maybe I'll ask the Commissioner. When I see him, I'm going to see him on Sunday and ask them over a glass of penal on your late night news show, Jay, cordless, some right over a little bowl and as Adam silver, and the napkin, tucked into as little skinny suit. Ask them after the second glass of wine. Ask you Commissioner. Lastly, here, we will have a Kevin Durant update from Nick free. Del who's gonna join us in about seven minutes. Six seven minutes the college World Series or excuse me, the college baseball playoffs are on right now. The regionals. Followed by the super regionals, and eventually the college World Series UCLA, the number one overall seed. Did you know that UCLA was the number one overall seed in Macau baseball tournament? No, I did not know that. And the women are really awesome going up against Zona right now in softball World Series, so yeah, wow. Southern California's got great baseball. Yeah. I'm so it all starts tonight. Seven o'clock. I believe the regional in UCLA aluminum bats. I love college baseball at this time of year. Lumina watch, yeah. They'll bring ping Yikes ping aches pain. I wanna see them. Switch the would. I know it's not cost effective for these schools, but I don't know man. There's metal bats for these. Dudes scares me. I love me. I love me some college baseball, this time I'd actually wanna go. I wanna go to Omaha to watch the college World Series. I think it's, it's a super fun event. People know, Mahar super nice and go to the game to where you want to go to Oman. Well, maybe if you see LA make shit. I'll go to just to go support. You know what I'm saying? So I'm telling you with all right. That's what's trending brought to us by friends at the dudes brewing. Coming up in four minutes, and forty seconds, Nick free del ESPN Golden State Warriors, reporter will give us an update on K D And the state of the warriors after losing game what that's coming up in just a moment.

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2020 Week 3 (Part 1)

Fantasy Feast: 'Eatin

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2020 Week 3 (Part 1)

"Eight time to eat. Four sit down and get ready to consume and abundance of fantasy football knowledge from Ross Tucker and Joe Dolan me now. On. The fantasy feast and podcast yeah. Let's see. Baby is the fantasy feast eating podcast presented today by Q. L. We've got two games down for every single team. I think you think you have a good feel for who these teams are and who they are make sure you're right get the back APP on your phone or go to Belk L. DOT COM. It's free for you to just shop around see if you like the site or not. Then if you WANNA get their premium, the subscription stuff, which is the real good stuff used a Promo Code Ross Twenty for twenty percent off your first payment. It's the place where the pros go to check out and see all of the data all of the algorithms, all of the Information Beck You L. DOT COM bet Q. L. App I'm Ross Tucker former NFL offensive Lineman, five teams, seven years, bunch of podcasts hopefully listen to Andrew Brandt on today's Ross Tucker football podcast. He was excellent if you like making games more interesting and you do because you listened fantasy piece podcast, then you should go ahead and you should listen to the. podcast because that's exactly what we do over there. The Star this show though is Joe Dolan at F. G. underscored. Dolan on twitter and Joe Renewed you this week more than ever. I'm not even getting into pleasantries report too many injured guys too many things going on we just need to get to the breakdowns and it starts with the dolphins and the Jaguars on Thursday night. Yes. So this is actually at least from the Jaguar side it's a little bit more of an interesting game than. You might think Jaguars have been more competitive than we all think, and all thought and Gartner Menchu's a key reason for that and doing some reading around up the Josh. Tolentino covers the dolphins for the athletic and he does a great job and he did a full breakdown of the dolphins woes and he's been really surprised by how much that big money defense has not shown up the play You Know Xavien Howard though started camp on the Covid list now, Byron Jones their big money corner. Has Injured, you might not be able to play in this game. So. It's really looking like this could be a big week for Gardner into who I think's a very good start this week to be completely honest. I've been getting a lot of questions about about Dj. Chart. He's he's dealing with a chest injury. I'm not panicking though he's caught all seven of his targets. So I think it's I think it's a really tough a go of it here for Miami and Jacksonville playing better football than you think. So I think those Jaguars, you can fire him up James Robinson, the running back. Has Been really impressive. He joined Philip Lindsay as the only to utsa back to open their careers with two games of sixty points, rushing yards or more. So that shows you how impressive he has been thus spar and he's been more involved again because I think the Jaguars are more competitive than we thought they were going to be the other guy to watch from the Jacksonville. Perspective of course, is a Levinsky Chenault who's been used as a gadget player. But really interesting tidbit that I found from next GEN stats they're only three players in the entire NFL who have lined up under center in the backfield out wide in the slot and tight to the formation this year low viscous, and all tastes, some hill and Kyle only three players have done it. You know that the the cardinals are now using their own version of Tastes Hill as part of with GAINSBOURG's expanding offense. So Levinsky Shinoda, somebody I'm watching I'm going to be really interested to see him on national TV on a Thursday night. The other side you got the Miami Dolphins put up twenty eight points against the buffalo bills they moved the ball. What do you think of them? Well, they're they're not very good fantasy team right now but mike sick, he had the big game tannahill bounce back probably call or excuse me not tannehill fitzpatrick wish they still had to this point. It's Patrick Bounce back they. He got the ball to give sickie Isaiah Ford the slot receiver. The big disappointment for Miami though is the receivers devante. Parker Preston Williams have been other non factors. A Parker's been injured president. Williams might have gotten tougher match ups in each of the first two weeks. He might have gotten tougher matchup with Davies White Stefan Gilmore. He's drawn some of the coverage but I referenced Josh Tolentino said that's been a big disappointment from somebody who at times look like the best player dolphins camp. So I really need to see those receivers take a step forward and in the Backfield I expect to see more of Matt. Burrito this week reading some of the clothes out there. But the only guy you can play right now because he's played over sixty percent of the snaps in each of the first few games is miles gasket. how Ma Ma everybody's trying to get miles gaskin these days I mean he he might slip through the cracks a little bit because of all, like the because of Mike Davis and Devante. Freeman this week he buys slip through the cracks a little bit of yet miles gaskin is the guy in Miami and he's been the guy for two weeks. Sixty percent of the snaps for a running back is a lot these days and he's done it in each of the first two games. Sunday one o'clock let's start with the Texans who did not target will fuller one time against the Pittsburgh steelers well, not a great match up for the Texans I mean Shawn Watson getting off to a brutal start here with. Some of these match ups obviously. Kansas City. Not that hard to match up he didn't play Great Net game and Baltimore's a brutal match up as is Pittsburgh. So let's see if the Shawn Watson can continue to bounce back but I think you can. You're not dropping to Shawn, Watson but I. Think you can. Consider streaming somebody else in this spot this week will fuller I might be sitting on this week I I mean the hamstring he doesn't get targeted I mean can. Can you be any more sick this guy I feel bad form us the good player. He had a great game in week one but I mean it's a really really tough scenario with him coming over a hamstring injury and David Johnson. Here's the bad news I mean he played all but like three snaps in that game and he did nothing he he looked more like the David Johnson. We saw Arizona last year. So he's kind of an rb to especially against this Pittsburgh Front it's been a tough go but for the taxes, they have not found their footing offensively. Yeah, they really have not what about on the other side with the Pittsburgh steelers. It's unbelievable. Joe. What they do with drafting wide receivers on I mean the plays chased Klay pools already made. deontay Johnson is so impressive. Yanni Deontay Johnson I think. I don't know you. You WanNa you. WanNa give it a little bit. But I think I'm comfortable calling him a hit from fantasy fees podcast like any time a guy gets thirteen targets. He's gotten double digit targets in two consecutive games to open the season. Okay. A guy can suck and get double digit targets in opening games and still be good for fantasy. deontay is a really good player sometimes, he tries to do a little too much but I like the way he's Looked I really liked the way Ben Rothlisberger is looked. You have to play Ben this week you have to play Dante Johnson. For instance, I would play Ben over Shawn Watson this even though you probably drafted Ben four five rounds later, I would play Ben over Shawn Watson you have played on clay pool is not fantasy option just yet. I. Mean they're making plays, but they're not really using them enough to be fantasy option but I mean you have to talk about backfield to. All logic, all logic pointed to. Give bending stellar chance betty still barely plate. You know they gave James Connor the chance to bounce back and he's back on the RB to radar I mean just understand. This thing could blow up at any point year James. Connor. But he played a good game last week. Let's get to Cincinnati at Philadelphia. Pretty interesting game from fantasy perspective. Why don't you start with the bengals going against eagles defence. Jared Goff in the rams had their way with I. mean you know Ross everybody's going to be talking about Carson Wentz and Doug Peterson okay. I don't know if you watch that whole game the way I did whence could have been perfect in that game it put up forty points and the defense would have given up forty one, I mean. It was that kind of game the eagles offered no resistance whatsoever to the Rams I duNNo. If the bengals are going to have that kind of success however keep in mind where does that Taylor come from the Sean mcvay school? He is going to be I mean you'd be watching the tape anyway, but you know damn well, he's going to be instituting some of those same concept. So The bad news Cincinnati is they don't have a tight end tyler it'd be. Lost Cj Doma drew sample is more of a blocking guy so a Tyler Hicks who scored three touchdowns in that Game Cincinnati doesn't have somebody like that I wonder though if they're going to give Auden Kate shot to be sort of that kind of guy, he's he's been somebody I really liked drafting the last round. He's been kind of on the outside looking in these first couple weeks but. Cincinnati. One thing you might be happy about Joe Mixon gotten off to a slow start. The Eagles got crushed on the ground last week by the rams running game. With you know the rams build their play action off of the run game and I know you don't have to establish the run to do play action but the rams almost do it backwards really they they build their run off the play action because you have to respect the play action than the run gets opened up. That's exactly what the rams did. I wonder Zach Taylor is going involves some of that for Joe Borough. The bad news for borough is this the Eagles Defensive Line is still pretty good and the bengals offensive line has been unfortunately the disaster thought it might be. So. What about on the other side the eagles offensively especially with Carson wentz struggling like this. I mean I. Don't know we've seen whence go through a rough stretches mechanically. That's nothing new for once the problem is. He's now compounding that with poor decision making and you always want the aggressiveness I. Don't you don't WanNa coach that out of went but all I'm wondering is. The designed movement there was a little more of it here in week two. I just keep coming back to the fact that went like the last week or so of training camp with a groin injury and I'm wondering if the reason they're not moving them out as much as he's not feeling one hundred percent I I don't know but the decision making has been poor. The mechanics have been really poor I mean if he doesn't bounce back this week against this defense, then he's really in trouble he. Can have the excuse that he faced too good defenses in the first couple of weeks but you can't have the offensive line excuse in week number two because even get sacked eagles opens wind did a good job protecting him. Just made bad rose and bad decisions. The good news is Mile Sanders had twenty seven opportunities. Twenty carries in seven targets. twenty-seven opportunities is a career high for miles sanders. So he's back he's about. Yeah there's no question I mean it was clear. I think they would use them like that coming off the injury, but they absolutely did another Sunday one o'clock game probably a game we need to spend the most I'm on I'm on it's the niners and the giants, and there aren't very many healthy running backs for this. No for the forty niners in a unbelievable twist of fate they're only healthy running back right now released Jerick McKinnon who's missed the last two seasons. They're going to get Jeff Wilson in there I think McKinnon is an rb to this week. Jeff Wilson. If you need to take a shot, maybe you're in a maybe you're in the fantasy fees League, which has sixteen teams and I am I just lost Christian McCaffrey. So I'm I'm I'm scrambling you can take a shot on somebody like Jeff Wilson. I want to see if they get John Michael hasty involved. He was a UTSA running back who apparently had a pretty good camp. They just didn't the numbers game didn't work out for him but overall I mean you have to check on the status of George. Kill. But for the forty niners I in most leads with Nick mullins probably starting quarterback a Jimmy Garoppolo. Dealing with a high ankle, you probably need to just play Jerick McKinnon and George Qaddafi plays and then move on from this game. It is nasty for the forty niners. Okay. So on the giants part of it. By the way I I would assume Jerick McKinnon probably picked up in most leagues but maybe what about for the giants and their signing devante Freeman yeah and Joe Judge China quote today like well, we think he has some juice left on like well I. Hope. So because he just signed him and I'll tell you who I think has juice left is dion Lewis. He did I know he played every snap. After saquon went out reason is because he was their only other tailback active they had full Elijah pending the full-back also active demonte. Freeman I, think's going to start here. It might. It might take some time but I consider him kind of like a flex rb to the rest of the year you have to you have to consider by the way. that. that. I mean he he isn't up to speed, and also the Falcon signed the corpse of Todd Gurley and cut devante Freeman Okay so that that tells you they thought he was physically but the opportunity should be here. Daniel Jones I. Think this. This thing hurts the whole offense quite frankly, but he might have to throw it a little bit more. The downside is they just put sterling. Shepard on IRR. So they have saquon. Barkley after the year shepherds out for at least three weeks, he's got turf toe. So Golden Tate Darius Slayton. Richard Sherman is is intermediary sleet and shouldn't have a big game here as well because I don't know what else they're going to do offensively, and in this game there are there are two tight ends you can consider I already mentioned kittle, but I don't forget to mention Jordan Redo two touchdowns last week, and of course, Evan Ingram's GonNa. Get targets to the giants because they have no one else to catch the football. So Jordan Reed in play if kindle doesn't play Evan Ingram obviously in play here, even though I think you struggled this year so far but certainly a Really. Really tough go of it for both of these teams when it comes to the injury bug. You can say that again how the LAS, Vegas Raiders and the New England Patriots I gotTa Tell You Joe. I did not think that both these teams would score thirty points or more. On the other night Oh last thing before we move on. What about Jordan Reed Kid allow? Yeah. I said he scored two touchdowns last week and I shocked at how good he looked. You always wait for the other shoe to drop which ordinary. But if kiddle is out, he's probably the one pass catcher that you can play with any sort of confidence here from San Francisco. It is Nick mullins he did play pretty well a couple of years ago when Jimmy Jimmy Garoppolo is in. Okay. So for the raiders and the Patriots both better offenses than we thought, what is it inverse for the raiders? Well, the one thing I noticed that that night man, the Monday night like grew dog. People make fun of him, but he can still call game and. I've been really impressed. They're putting Derek Carr in a position to succeed. He's never going to be the the aggressive thrower that you think That's why Darren Waller has about nine billion targets already this season, but the GRUDEN can still call a game. And I think in this game, you fire up the the usuals, the problem for Oakland Excuse me I'm so sorry the problem for Vegas has been that the wide receivers have been disappointing. So far Henry Rugs dinged up Brian Edwards only had two catches their in week number two everything is filtered through. Darren Waller. So right now if I'm playing raiders I, think you could consider streaming Derek. Carr. Maybe he's DFS option because he has played pretty well but other than that it's kind of Darren Waller Josh Jacobs and wait and see on everybody else but thirty touches for Josh. Jacobs that's a great sign. It is interesting to see them spread the ball around. So many different receivers I mean everybody was making plays Kinda crazy. All right. The other side speaking of everybody making plays. You. Know. Cam Newton. Getting Julieta my career. Hi Joe. What is going on? Well, Cam Newton looked really good to me on Sunday on Sunday night. I thought he was as accurate as I've seen them in a long time, and now you have to consider that he scored two rushing touchdowns and he's gotten double digit carries in each of the first two games. So there's a couple. Of Takeaways here I have number one cams a qb one like Cam I would play over to Shawn Watson this week with Shawn Watson matchup. I that's probably that would have sounded controversial three weeks ago. It doesn't sound controversial now nearly four hundred yards and he ran for two touchdowns joining Ataman firm wide receiver three. There are going to be some games we know. There are going to be some games where he doesn't throw the ball all that. Well, you just have to deal with it, but you saw what Kinda upside Julian and has one hundred, seventy, nine yards on the waiver wire. Consider picking up, the Harry. I'm still a little iffy him. I'm not sure what to think but he's big. He's got some physicality to and Newton has liked throwing to those guys in his career yet twelve targets in that game against Seattle in the backfield. There's one thing I need to point out first and foremost James why I mean what a horrible horrible tragedy like. I presume he's GonNa take every day he needs and not a moment sooner not a moment, a later with with his parents but I feel awful for him So just just thoughts prayers whatever you do out to James White there is there is one thing though that I do is point out. If draft, Damien Harrison like your best balls or maybe he's on your IRA and your season long. This is kind of what you wanted to see from the Patriot backfield neither Sony. Michelle nor rex burkhead has looked particularly good. Damian Harris is eligible to come off of I our next week. Okay. Sony Michelle and REX burkhead if they do not play particularly well. Damian Harris again has a path to being successful going forward a we know they're gonNA run the hell out of the Football Cam Newton's been their leading in each of the first two games. Eventually, Bill Belichick is going to want to get the ball back though, and we had so many Pe- treat beat writer saying, Hey, guys, they inheritances look like they're best back and camp so you can't play him this week but he's eligible to come off of I are with that finger injury consider picking him up because Sony Michelle and REX burkhead have established themselves in this back. Interesting yeah I mean there's there's a lot there. All right. So keeping a moving, we've got the titans at the Vikings Titans are one of those narrow fantasy teams right? What are you got? Well, let's check out AJ Brown status will learn more today we're recording on Wednesday. We have a doctor physical therapy on the staff over fantasy points, Edwin poorest. He kind of alluded that bone bruises. Feel worse than they actually are injuries. So it's kind of a pain tolerance thing that mind when it comes to age a brown but at this stage I me Johnny Smith, the Vikings got absolutely cooked by the adult film star Mo. Cox last week by Indianapolis he has he had one hundred and eleven yards receiving. Against the against the Vikings on six targets. Johnny Smith is locked into your lineups Jonathan Taylor ran for over one hundred yards and a touchdown Derrick Henry obviously is in your lineups. Ryan. Tannehill getting it done with Corey Davis dinged up and without AJ Brown throwing for four touchdowns he is in the starting consideration Minnesota's been a disaster on both sides of the football so far this season especially defensively and I kind of like the titans across the board. Game. Then, you got Minnesota offensively pretty bad against the colts cousins was terrible they at least move the ball against the packers the week before that was not the case. Now notch up I mean, Ross you look at Kirk Cousins Line Eleven for twenty, six, one, hundred, thirteen yards, three interceptions, and a safety taken has he I mean that is that might already be an insurmountable lead for the worst quarterback game we're going to see in twenty twenty it. Was Horrible and the book thing is that we love about Adam, feeling is we know the Vikings aren't gonNA throw the ball ton that's by design they don't want to the thing we like about Adam, feeling is he's going to get a massive target share we did he had a cousins twenty six targets the problem for feeling was I'd come out I'm playing thefts and I'm like man, he caught three passes on the opening drive and that was it. Was it the entire game even though we saw eight targets Minnesota has two guys. You can consider fantasy Adam feeling and Alvin Cook, they're both in your lineup, each and every week and the other guys you cannot consider like I'm looking at the box score right now I just now remembered that Justin Jefferson was the first round pick like he actually led them in receiving with forty four yards but three or forty four you have to see more Earth Smith's been a huge disappointment I. wonder if that's a product of cousins here but there's two guys from Minnesota. You can play Dominic Cook an Adam ceiling that is it nobody else's inconsideration at this point? Keeping with the one o'clock games, we've got a couple more Washington at Cleveland. So Washington basically has at this point Terry Maclaurin, Logan Thomas and I think Antonio Gibson might get there at some point. Yeah. Well, they took a big step to that up Gibson was one of the big disappointments a week one he played only twenty five percent of the snaps against Philli while he was up to a in the sixties against. Arizona this past week, he has taken over this backfield Peyton. Barbara. Who led them in carries in week one essentially got benched. He played only one snap and he had one carry for one yard. So he's been benched this Gibson and it's mckissick in the backfield. Wondering if at some point we're going to get bryce love shot ear but Antonio Gibson is kind of low end or be to right now Logan Thomas is a. Tight end, he got the targets guys he had nine targets, but he only caught four of them. I don't think doing haskins has he hasn't really impressed me so far this year and Terry McLaren I wonder if he's matchup roof end quarterback proof I mean Arizona. The only guy who has beaten us down the field is Teri McLaren. He still goes for seven for one, twenty three and a touchdown on ten targets. I mean I add tough match-up with Darius slay week one philly gave him short fields. He didn't have to do all that much but Terry McLaren is locked into your lineup as a wide receiver to but that's about it for Washington. Ross had the right read on that. Last week. I had Cleveland. I took Cincinnati. six points on the draft King Sportsbook, which is nice because. Of A gap because draftkings sportsbook is giving all new users, the chance to turn one dollar into one hundred dollars when they bet on any team. Think about that place a one hour bet on any team, and if that team wins, you cash a cool Benjamin how'd you pass that up? You don't pass it up you're listening to fancy piece podcast. You'd like to make games more interesting. You need to download the top rated draftkings sportsbook at now use Promo Code Ross when you have to get this can't miss offer basically free money ninety nine. Dollars any team during week three that one dollar on them and win one hundred dollars if they win, that's one dollar to win one hundred dollars when you use Promo Code Ross during sign up limited time only at draftking sportsbook must be twenty one or older New Jersey. PA only restrictions apply draftkings dot com slash sportsbook for details gambling problem call one, eight, hundred gambler Baker Mayfield considered a gambler. Joe But you know what they did. They ran the ball lot. They gave him some easy throws off a bootlegs and play action. Not Think, both job and hunt would eat like that I didn't I actually thought it could be a good game for both of them just given Cincinnati's defensive struggles. No though Ross I did not expect them both to score two touchdowns. You look at this game though Cleveland should be a favorite in fact is a and that signals good good signs for Nick Nick Job who is also I, mean the these to might be two of the ten best backs in the entire NFL. Quite frankly I mean it. It's it's ridiculous. What they what we're going to do they're gonNA make things easy for Baker Mayfield at receiver you kind of have to play Odell Beckham as a wide receiver to at this stage. But at this point I he I I don't think we're ever going to see giants ob Jay again, it's just kind of obvious that that's not going to happen elsewhere for Cleveland you play both Chubb in Hunt I think they're I think jobs and RB. One? I think hunt is an rb to this week. I think ob as a wide receiver too wide receiver three however Baker Mayfield I. Think maybe you can stream Jack Conklin. The right tackle should be back this week but with the with them as a ten point US excuse me a seven point favorite. It's going to be a nick troubling Kareem Hunt Game. Jarvis Landry can't play at this point because not getting the volume and it's hip might be bothering him Austin Hooper droppable. That's about difficult. Only a couple. One o'clock games left. We'll get to La at buffalo gotTa Tell You, Joe I was wrong about the rams this year I didn't think they'd be very good. They feel like such a top heavy team. I mean there's no middle class but their defense better than I thought it would be an McVeigh's in his own right now, man I mean that was a thing of beauty on Sunday against the eagles and Tyler Habe Woods Cup even the running backs now acres is out. So what does that mean for the running backs? Well, Acre says the RIB injury will see what his progress is. But if you had camakers I'm sorry guys I really am. One of my to starting running back. Yeah. I mean. But Ross, you saw that game he was gonNA eat. Philly Philly was non-competitive defensively he was gonNA eat in that game they gave him the start everything was lining up for camakers to be good in that game. Unfortunately, it just didn't happen because of the Injury Malcolm. Brown also got earth. Believe you heard a finger? But here's the thing for for the rams. Two things of stood out to me number one, they are back to being predominantly a three wide receiver team. So Cooper Cup is playing a ton of snaps. Cooper Cup Latte at the end of last year wasn't playing a ton of snaps because they were going to twelve personnel a whole lot but he kind of covered that up with the fact that he's scored in each of the final five games of the season he hasn't scored yet this year but those touchdowns or common. So Cooper cubs usage is encouraging tyler he is the number one tight end on this team people were asking knows ever ever it was the guy early part of last year while tyler hit me I, think with. His three touchdown game against the Hapless Eagle Defense. He has answered the bell there but this is predominantly an eleven personnel team right now jared Goff is in the zone and you Sean mcvay zone when mcvay is in the zone Gotha in the zone when when McVeigh's not in the zone golf not in zone, it's it's a very symbiotic relationship there maybe more. So than most other coaches and quarterbacks, but golf is liable you play you play woods, you play Cup keep an eye on the status of the backfield because you might WanNa fire. Daryl Anderson, in there to see what happens after his big game against Philly, you play tyler egg I mean right now the rams are a great fantasy team I kinda consider them like the lower case version of what Atlanta is giving us for fantasy. Now. We get to Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills. I don't think I mean look I know some people were high on Josh Allen I dunno people thought we'd see this Joe. No and I, don't expect this is going to continue I. Don't expect that. Josh Josh Allen is not a seventy percent passer Josh allens probably not sixty five percent passer. So I don't expect this to continue but speaking of coaches in zone offense coordinator Brian Debacle is just killing it right now for buffalo he's got Josh Allen Throwing and here's the thing that surprised me Ross and I know people thought Allen was going to be good for fantasy he was one of my. Three main quarterback targets to them working out really well, not so much the thing about Alan that I don't think anybody expected. It's how much he's been throwing the football you know it despite them leading the entire game in week one against the jets he throws forty seven passes a career high those thirty five against Miami in a much more competitive game. But he is dealing right now Stefan digs and John Brown are maybe the most underrated wide receiver duo in the entire NFL. They're not even getting anything out of their backfield. Really's Moss's dinged up I. saw that. Today on Wednesday he was only working out on the side. A seven single terry hasn't done a whole lot either they're both kind of flex plays Josh. Allen is on fire right now the overall quarterback one season is in play for Josh Allen this year and I, and I don't think that's that controversial given what he's done the first two weeks he's the quarterback to right now. So last one for episode one remember this is the show that so nice we do it twice we do all the early games and Thursday night football and episode one. So it's digestible for you. Then we'll get another one in your podcast APP after midnight. So you can listen to both their separately. However you want but we do to a week here on the fantasy fees podcast with Joe Dolan, the fantasy points superstar that by the way in the next episode, it's the bears at the Falcons. So why don't we start with the bears from fantasy perspective? Well, the problem I dug up the stat because I've got a ton of questions about Alan Robinson this week. And according to Sports Info solutions who do a great job with like a bunch of charting. And watching games and coming up with the statistical representation of what they see Allen Robinson has caught forty four point four percent of his targets this year. He's caught eighteen targets. He's been targeted nine times in each game. He's caught one hundred percent of the targets that sports info solutions has deemed. A accurate. Arrigo every target were he's been targeted and has not caught. The ball has been inaccurate. Don't let the bears record full you into thinking you'll trubisky is all of a sudden good because he isn't. It he's not good and the thing about Robinson is he's got a near thirty percent target share. Okay. You still have to play 'em. He is playing high level football but Mitchell trubisky is struggling right now he went eight, hundred, twenty, eight for one, hundred, ninety yards, touchdowns six he is not playing good football Anthony Miller they are really really disappointed in his route running. East playing fewer snaps than Darnell Mooney, the rookie wide receiver Ratatouille Lane Been. Snaps than Javan wims they are. He is really struggling right now is not usable. The only two bears usable at this date for me are Allen, Robinson and David Montgomery who had a really good game despite leaving at one point with what looked like a very scary neck injury I understand you might WanNa play Tariq Cohen against an Atlanta defense that is abominable but I I mean I the bears just they just can't get it going enough with Mitchell trubisky quarterback. What about? For the Atlanta Falcons I call them the fantasy falcons Sunday was the perfect example of that everybody had big days although actually ironically Julio Jones did not have. Any any missed touchdown catch but everybody else didn't they still lost. I mean, you're never gonNa see you're never going to see that onside kick scenario again, this is just an Atlanta team that I mean the defense is so bad it is so bad. They don't get pressure they're going to give up points I don't know if they're gonNA give up forty because you know Mitchell trubisky but everybody's in play for Atlanta Calvin Ridley I might take which probably doesn't sound like hot take anymore he's GonNa outscore holy this year a Julio's dinged up he's got a hamstring injury a Dan Quinn think said today that there might be a little bit more to it than Julio has alluded to which is not never want to hear that. Matt Ryan was one of my three main quarterback targets this year with Josh Allen and Carson Wentz he has come through I. See no reason to adjust my preseason projecting that Matt Ryan is going lead the NFL and passing attempts. Calvin is a hammer wide receiver one Aden hearst. He is viable in your lineups Russel Gage as a wide receiver three. You still have to consider playing Julio I'm not considering you still have. To do it until there a reason not to, but he is less than a hundred percent right now he is well behind Ridley on my projections this week, Todd Gurley unfortunately it looks the same as I expected them to kind of plotting ease like a low end rb to to me twenty one carries for sixty one yards against Dallas and he wasn't targeted in the passing game that's not good enough for fantasy purposes. He is Joe Dolan. You can get all of his stuff at fantasy points, dot com. They have an unbelievable crew over there just make sure you use the code feast. So they know we sent you. That's where Joe and Guru and Greg Cosell and Adam Kaplan and a host of others absolutely kill it I'm Ross Tucker this is the show that's so nice. We do it twice so I'm stuffed but we got a little bit more leftover for you. We got some more late games and Monday night football ravens chiefs. You're kinda going to want to hear what Joe had say about that one on episode number two, which will be in your podcast. APP. Soon, I think we're done here. Thanks for listening to the fantasy feast podcast. Make sure to also subscribe to the Ross Tucker Football podcast even money business of sports and the college draft all available at Apple podcasts Ross Tucker. Dot Com or wherever podcasts can be found.

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FROM THE SB NATION NFL SHOW: The Look Ahead previews NYG PHI

Big Blue View

14:44 min | 1 year ago

FROM THE SB NATION NFL SHOW: The Look Ahead previews NYG PHI

"Podcast listeners we are amazing avenue, the espy nation, New York mets, site I'm Chris McShane and every week Brian Salvator and I discussed the current state of the mets automated. Avenue Audio. The show we try to look at the mets from a somewhat logical point of view and not get too deep into panic city. We also answer your emails, give weekly music recommendations and try not to get too frustrated with the team. You can find the show on apple podcasts on. Stitcher. Where ever you get your podcasts and let's go mets. The following segment is from the look ahead on the ESPN NATION NFL show we're we're discussing your favorite teeth subscribe to the SP nation NFL show to make sure you don't miss conversations like this one ed you set it and everyone's been saying it NFC lease and all that. But you know what the division is still up for grabs and if you're a fan of the giants fan of the Eagles, you're watching this game and Your interests it, and so I know that the records aren't good but it matters. Yeah it does you know I've I've said this at big blue view it's it's amazing. It's embarrassing. It's annoying it's it's all of those things but you know what? It's also a game that has first place implications weird as that seems it has first place implications. So it's a big football game yet it's between two bad teams, but it's a big game. And that's what you care about as a fan. So we're GONNA talk about as it is a big game big news for the. Eagles in that Lane Johnson Andrew Jackson look like they're gonNA play they were limited in practice on Wednesday but Doug Peterson said, he thinks they're going to play as a giant Fan Ed. Are you a little nervous now that Carson wentz is actually going to have somebody to throw the ball to for a change well, you know from from a giants perspective, we're not really allowed to talk about that that particular. Sean Person We're just we're just not allowed to talk about him. You know it's bad mojo whatever we're just not allowed to talk about that particular player Carson. Wentz, almost beat the ravens last week without eighty percent of his offensive line. His top three receivers is top two tight ends and his best running back for most of the game. If he's starting to get some weapons back, maybe he can kind of round into form and look a little bit more like that guy that was in the running for MVP. You know it's amazing. You you listen to to the folks in. Philly you read you read bleeding green nation. and. You know they're they're they're ready to throw Carson Wentz off of a bridge in Philly. They they really are. But Carson Wentz Carson. Wentz is a good NFL quarterback. I mean he's not Aaron Rodgers but he's a good NFL quarterback I mean, this guy has been running for his life all season he hasn't had. Lane. Johnson. Brandon Brooks Andrei Dillard. Jason Peters, you know what is he had for an offensive line I. Think I looked at the stats the other day, and he's he's on pace to be sacked sixty, six times. This season sixty, six times I think his career high in times he he's been sacked is is somewhere in the thirties so that the guys running for his life, he's got no, he's had no receivers. How is anybody in that circumstance going to put up any numbers? So I mean I haven't studied all of the film of wins this year if you WANNA say he misses an open receiver once in awhile fine but but if you can't protect your quarterback if you've got no one for him to throw to. In his numbers are GonNa Stink you sound strangely sympathetic for the guy that runs big blue view. No, I'm not sympathetic but but I understand this because I people spent years you know criticizing Eli Manning and this is what I said for years and years and years he drops back. He's getting killed and he throws the ball to a bunch of guys who he introduced himself to two or three days ago. You Know A. I mean there were years when the guys giants were picking up free agents on Tuesdays and play on Sunday and. And you just can't succeed that way. I. Just you know I. Guess my point is I understand that Wentz is a better player than his numbers indicate and I keep looking at this Philly team and you know I've said it to Philly people before and. They won the Super Bowl. Three years ago, and I thought they were set up with a young roster cost controlled roster of of guys. I thought they were set up for a nice long run and it just hasn't happened now windows closed fast in the NFL man look at the rams they win the Super Bowl a couple years ago missed the playoffs last year forty niners are in the super bowl last year this year starting off struggling I mean things life comes at you fast is the kids say and you know they are trying to work their way through it now and hopefully get some offense back with the return of he who shall not be named. Yeah we don't. We don't mention that name and we also don't punch to him either we do not. I watched that highlight actually this morning I don't know it came up on my twitter feed in is incredible that number one that they punt to him and then number two he fumbles the the ball soon as it comes to, and then he just picks it up and flies to the end zone. was like the parting of the blue. Sea. And then immediately I I'll never forget this. They smash cut to coughlan coming off the sideline looking like he's going to murder the punter and you know. After that year met Dodge never worked in the NFL again. On, Jackson, ending careers over here. On the giant side of things Ed. For you know we talk about the eagles struggles on offense the giants are worse. The giants can't score at all. They've only scored one hundred, one points this season that's the third lowest in in the entire NFL I know say on Barclays hurt and that that obviously is a factor, but you gotta be able to score points. Offense has never been easier what's going on? Well, you're absolutely right. You've got to be able to score touchdowns and the biggest thing with the giants has been lack of of what everybody refers to as explosive plays. And some of that comes from not having Saquon Barkley. Maybe, some of that comes from Sterling Shepard having been out for a while. I think some of that also comes from really not using Evans Ingram correctly the giants are using him on a lot of short quick little throws rather than getting him down the field. or at least getting him on crossing routes where he can try to outrun somebody get up the field but the other thing of it is Daniel Jones has made several critical mistakes in the red zone at the goal line this year that have cost the giants touchdowns. You cannot drive the ball for nineteen plays like they did against Pittsburgh. And come away with zero points. You cannot drive the ball for fourteen plays like they did. I think against the cowboys and get down inside the ten yard line and come away with zero points. You just cannot do those things are actually I think that was actually against Washington the other day, but but you can't do those things and take points away from away from your team. They're just NFL games come down to a handful of plays and you just can't make those those kinds of critical errors. On this show I've said on other shows sometimes playing quarterback is all about the worst thing that you do during a game and the worst thing Tena Jones does is he's Either turning the ball over or just put the ball on the ground and those are drive killers absolute drive killers especially when not only do you take touchdowns off the board but when you turn it over, you take feel goes off the board to. Everybody. If you watch an NFL game, every quarterback makes a handful of mistakes during a game. Every quarterback will miss an open receiver once in a while every quarterback probably. Throw a ball once in a while that he probably shouldn't have thrown. Daniel Jones just has this. Or so far in his career, he has this this habit. Of. Making those mistakes. At the most spectacularly awful times imaginable. That's that's not a good quality to have for any quarterback. Let alone, the guy that you're hoping is going to be your franchise guy for years to come when it does come to that offense to me this season right now with who you have out there the most special aspect of it is Daniel Jones running the wall. Do you think we're going to see some more designed runs for Daniel? Jones I'm mean he broke out last week. What do you have a forty nine yard run like he can scoop and that's the best thing you've got going for you. If you're the giants, I think you have to I think you almost have to be. They're not getting the big explosive plays. In the passing game, the way that you'd like to. devante Freeman is a nice running back. He you know they've they've figured out what he does pretty well but. We talk about explosive plays and I've seen a handful of plays over the past two weeks where. devante. Freeman gets to the second level. And he's Maybe eight yards downfield and he's one on one with a safety and I'm thinking if that's Barclay that's fifty and he's gone. and. And devante freeman gets his eight yards and goes back to the huddle. And it's a huge difference. It's a huge difference when you know he's a good solid running back. But. He's but but he's not going to break that fifty yard rone's not gonNa make people miss and run away from him in the secondary and and it makes a big a big difference. I mean that said the giants have to get better on offense I don't know stats. You know I'm GonNa. Let you pick this game I. The eagles are giving four and a half in this one Far be it for me because a little disturbance in the pod, but I have to go with the Eagles in this one at I'm sorry it feels to me like the giants are just beaten down. It feels to me like they don't expect to win any games that they've just sort of resigned themselves that this is a loss year even though they're still technically in it I don't feel a sense of urgency from giants with the Eagles I do I mean they're getting beat by the Ravens last week and they almost come all the way back. If Doug Peterson calls a better two point conversion play that game is tied up at. The end of the game I feel like there's urgency from Philly to Sean Jackson is back maybe they start to get a little bit Healthier Carson. Wentz is playing better now than he did earlier in the year and I don't know if you're aware this ed but the eagles are going with the black jerseys and they are five no against the giants win wearing their black surgery. So I'll take the eagles and I'll lay the points. All good things all bet things come to an end stats always they always come to an and I look at it. This way they can eagles are like you said, they're five our in their black jerseys. There they've beaten the giants seven straight times. The giants. Twenty out of the last twenty, four times that they've played. But I'M GONNA disagree with you on the fact that I think that that that the giants are beaten down I think that when I look at these teams in the NFC east, the cowboys should be better than they are. The Eagles should be better than they are, and maybe if they get healthy, maybe they will be better than they are. But right now today as we do this show, the giants are one in five. And I would make an argument. That based on the way they've played the team that might be on the upswing in the NFC east, the team that might be getting better in a week over week is the giants I just have to believe that sooner or later they're going to beat this team. They're going to beat the eagles sooner or later this has to change, and maybe I'm wearing my blue colored glasses. But but I'm going to pick the giants to pull the upset tonight and believe it or not I'm the only one on the big move you staff who has made that pick. So maybe I'm wearing the blue colored glasses you know maybe maybe I need to go see the doctor I duNNo. Lot again, I have lost a lot of money betting on streaks to end at I will say that yeah but. There's no money. I'm just I'm just recommending other people spend their money. I'm not spending any my own. That's the best way to do it. Make sure you don't miss our next conversation by subscribing to the nation NFL show wherever you get your podcasts. Hi I'm Brian and I'm one of the hosts of the Amazing Avenue Network of podcasts each weekday bring you a different podcast. The covers the New York mets from a different perspective. Every Monday you could hear me Steve along with Kenan Lucas on from complex soclean's will discuss the mets minor league system. 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A preview of Falcons vs. Panthers

The Falcoholic

49:51 min | 2 years ago

A preview of Falcons vs. Panthers

"Is Cam Newton Dunn and Carolina. Can the Falcons Defense repeat their strong showing against the panthers and Christian. McCaffrey in what is going on with that. Panthers defense offense all of this and more as G. Thomas and I are joined by Brian Beverage. Lose of cat scratch reader on this week's the alcohol ICK podcast The guys to another episode Alchoholic podcast Fisher podcast of the Atlanta Falcons on ESPN nation. PODCAST catch network. I am W and as always joined by my co host I haven't done this in a while. Let's get through this. The June putter dog stressor super named the quick draw McGraw Facebook Messenger. The Vivian Samaritan the trash talkers supreme. The one touchstone ball. She will not be bossed genome an online Thomas Gene. How are you doing? I'm I'm doing great David. Thanks how are you. I'm tongue tied but I feel like I got through that one okay joining us. Today is a a frequent guest of the podcast and a friend. He is a writer at cat scratch reader and he hosts the EAP sounding podcasts Fisher podcast of the panthers. There's on espionage and podcast network. We were talking about the one and only Brian better sluice Brian. How're you doing man? I'm I'm good I. I'm glad that we didn't talk yesterday. Today 'cause it would've been a little more pissy about the panthers than usual so well. There's always the podcast to bring that right back out of you. So Ah we're going to dive into it before we talk about the upcoming a match. Up between the Falcons and the panthers. We're GonNa talk about what happened to both of these teams this weekend. We're going to start. Obviously with the Falcons game. Because I feel like if you're looking for a sign of the apocalypse this game could have been the early warning. Sign that this guy is gonNA turn blood red and the oceans are going to boil Gina. The saints were seven one coming into this game. Falcons one and seven. I think From a prediction standpoint at the falcons. I don't know that I think Dave was the only person that predicted the Falcons to win. It was actually James. James is usually falcons in you know it is is not a coincidence. That James is also usually in the basement. As far as Jane I am this is just. That's my honest analysis. That James was the only contrarian who picked the Falcons and boy. Oh boy where the rest of US wrong. Yeah every contrarian just so you know so the the Falcon went into Nola and I just want to clarify the saints. Had A bye week at the same time we did. So there's there's no story here about the Falcons coming off a bye week. And having an advantage the saints had the same. We're playing at home. And the Falcons went on the road and beat them beat them down plenty six to nine. They couldn't even score a touchdown they couldn't even get to double digits and the Falcons who had seven sacks wchs in any games sacked drew brees six times on Sunday Gina. I want to ask skew. What was your take? What were your takeaways from? That game is an aberration. Is it a sign of the Times whether you feel that Saints Falcons Walk Ins game told us you know. I've had some time to think about it since we broke it down on the post game podcast and I basically my analysis was just to laugh uncontrollably. I'm you know. I think that it's a variety of things I talked to Kendall Sheffield in Milwaukee from yesterday and he gave me some insight but he said that you know Kendall said that the main thing was you know just basically guys getting more comfortable in the role understanding. What their job is but a lot of that has Jimmy will whether you've got some replacement players on that side of the ball because of injuries like Sheffield Ends Monte Kings Eve filling in for with Kiana knee allow It's he's That communicates than has really improved. That bringing remorse over there. You know sometimes these players just have to hear the same things that they've been hearing over and over but they you need to hear it from a different voice and so I think that part of it. I also think that it was being fresh and rested off a bye week. Also think that New Orleans might look past him a little bit you know. New New Orleans is a very good team but they are in very arrogancy and you know. I don't really have a like a problem with that. In general I mean they're good head. I think that they've earned the right to talk shit but you know they. I think that they probably look past them. A little bit. Like Sean Payton. As with the least humble coach in the national football league and Yeah I mean this is the guy who was making choking motions at devante Freeman right. Before the Falcons Sola Wind right out of their hands hands in Atlanta a couple of years ago no so I think that it was a combination of all of those things but I think that when you look at the communication side of things and that a tremendous improvement defensively where guys just kind of seem to understand a little bit better. You know how to make magic happen on the field instead of just being complete show show the entire time. I think that those are things that we might see carryover like well. We see another stick sack performance. I hope so but I doubt it but I and we said see always incremental improvement. Yeah and I think for me the it was all about the defense. The offense I thought was still a little bit disjointed. And when I thought about it you know going back in sort of also examining the game Outside of the the jubilant bidding the saints in occurred to me that the offense probably was not completely in sync because Ryan is still suffering a little bit it from that ankle injury and his accuracy was on and off throughout the game and was probably a factor of him being able to get his foot work. One hundred percent right with that with that high ankle sprain so I have to say about of that about Ryan specifically but yeah fair enough so I think you know the offense was good enough and the defense was amazing Which I never thought I would say the season so Brian your take? I mean as as an outside observer and arguably in that position wanting the falcons to win because you guys need the you know the saints to take as many losses as possible to be able to win the division. What was your perception of that game? In how IMMI- expert opinion as a guy who watches film and watches a lot of football. Does a lot of studying the saints are just trash. There is a line that you guys are right. That the the saints looks past the Falcons a little bit and it's kind of hard not to I would think as a professional team no matter how many times they go out on camera and say we're not looking passes team. This is the next. This is next week. We're only focused from this week Blah Blah Blah. They had one win going in. And you know it's it's the saints to like as as Gina said. Sean Payton is not exactly the one to be like. Oh yeah any team could beat us on any Sunday. Yeah sure uh-huh shortly the F.. I believe you when you say that I I think that the Falcons defense finally found a way to not be terrible which was good because they have the personnel to not be so shitty and I think that knowing each other is always a factor like every divisional game is very key because every team kind of builds their team around on beating everybody else in the division because ultimately you're the way that you get to the playoffs is by dominating your division unless you're the Oakland raiders that one year so yeah I think that's a lot of it I did want to comment on that. Yeah usually a foot. Injury tends tends to cause your quarterback to not be so accurate. I'm kind of surprised that I'm not hearing about the national media calling for Mashaal or whatever other backup quarterback they have replacing Matt Ryan. It's not really the norm. I guess in the NFL normally as soon as a guy has a bad game because he can't put plans foot right suddenly are calling for his head on a platter but who knows maybe. Maybe I'm just a little jaded. I think there's something to that and I would completely agree. I don't think you're unfair in making that comparison so On that note the panthers this weekend had a tough game. It was correct me if I'm wrong but it may not very snowy very cold old. The packers are a little bit of an enigma. Because the offense is supposed to be much better and I feel like the offense is not particularly. Good it's actually their defense. That is carrying them right now as a team. I don't feel like there is good. The team is the record suggests Regardless it was actually a pretty good game. I had the opportunity to watch it on The the panthers had an opportunity at the end the Game Brian. And why don't you tell us a little bit about what happened. That game what your takeaway was from That road loss well to start the panthers run. Defense has been flashing being bad all season but a lot of the analytics people out there like well running. The ball is not a big deal. It's typically more. There's more you're more. We're likely to fail on a running play than you are passing play. But the packers ran all over the panthers and that seems to be the formula for beating them this year because as they lost to the forty niners and all they did was run. Kevin Coleman all over Carolina Panthers Carolina's defense the Bucks. There's a little bit of an was a little bit weird because they had a chance to win much like the packers game In the very ending moments in just couldn't get it across the end zone in this game really. It came down to that. The packers managed to shut down Christian. McCaffrey just enough. That Kyle needs to go out there and win the football game and people look at that last drive and they say oh he made a heroic effort he was very good under pressure but the entire game. He missed misthrows that he should have made or he made bad decisions nations. Like it wasn't a great game kyle instead of himself. So the Kyle truth out there stick to that last drives a hey. He almost won the football game. Yeah well the Panthers Panthers also had a chance to get building down by seven. They ended up being down by six. Because Ron Rivera went on with a I've I just they'd just scored. They were down by fourteen point so we went forward. The analytic say should do that. I don't think I hate the decision. But in the end they put a lot of pressure on the offense to perform form and this panthers defense is not really built right now to carry them through games against good teams like the packers and uh-huh the packers ran the ball very well against the panthers. Aaron Jones was all over them and they just once again exploited the fact that Carolina took their defense and made it a lot faster and a lot more athletic but by doing that and creating the great pass rates. They have this season. They've sacrificed the run defense. Defense and teams that are devoted to running the football and are good at it are going to run on them. And that's exactly what happened. So the very last drive was is tough to watch because there were times where Kyle Allen had like a real like wide open Greg Olsen missed him then he would make a throw to Greg Olsen. I'm on third and like eight perfect. I'm Miss Christian. McCaffrey rightful for the last game. Play the game would have been easy. Touchdown didn't throw it at the dirt in front of them and then on the very last play the panthers left guard. Greg Van Roten got got beat by the packers. Defensive Lineman contact caused a stop. Stop game was over so just one of those games where the ball were a few plays here or there could have easily changed the outcome. The panthers were definitely the underdogs dogs in that game and they did. They did come out and they played pretty well despite a lot of the really bad stuff that happens so it's the season still up in the air for picking they they can come back and they can go make the playoffs. They could also lose every game for the rest of the season. I wouldn't be surprised by either one. Yeah the the packers I I think again. There are They are an enigma team. But they are typically very strong at home and Especially when you start so you get into weather like what you guys have to see this past Sunday where it is cold. It's snowing that seems to be where you know especially teams. I'm from the South and I know it's you know sort of a overplayed cliche but there is some truth to you. Know southern teams struggling in colder weather weather but honestly it looked like the panthers had an opportunity to win and it was close loss. You lose on the road to the packers. It's not the the world. They're clearly going to be a playoff team If you look at it today but a little bit little bit surprising but not entirely Gina any any thoughts on the panthers dropping that one on the road falling to five in four not making up any ground. NFC South even though the Falcons gave him some help this Oregon. Yeah I I don't really think that that's a strong indicator one way or the other about the strength of the panthers obviously it's a different season with Cam. AM sidelines It's going to have some growing pains but they still have a ton of talent Olsen is still playing very. Well he's like Benjamin Button or something like I swear. God make any sense that he is playing at the level that he has a has age. You know McCaffrey has one of the best players in the entire national football league Legitimately put together an MVP caliber season this year. So you know I think that I. I think that losing a road game in Green Bay. When it's cold outside is really not something to be ashamed of? I think that that's a pretty common occurrence for teams all over the League and especially teams or southern teams So yeah I mean. I don't think it's a strong indication of the panthers who they really are as a team. Either way I agree and I think that's why this weekend is going to be critical for them And obviously incredibly important for the Falcons. So we're going to talk about that matchup but before we dive into you the game Sunday. We're GONNA take a quick break. We'll be right back. Are you a netflix person. Are You more into Hulu. You got that. Hbo Now thinking about that Whole Apple TV plus Disney plus peacock showtime CBS. It never ends so today. Explained Fox's oxes Daily News podcast. 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This weekend We we spoke in the first. Half about the falcons trying to help out the panthers by beating the saints and the panthers unfortunately dropping one on the road to the packers Clearly if the panthers are GonNa make up ground in the division in catch up to the saints that this is a game that is critical for their playoff hopes. They're five and four dropping. A five of five is gonNA make it a little bit harder to catch up with you. Know a a seven and two saints team but if they can you know keep winning in hope that you know they've got some matchups with the saints coming up They can possibly flip the division if you know they can play these games relatively well so important matchup. Obviously for the for the Falcons. They're playing essentially for Dan Quinn's career at this point. We did a lot of polling gina this week about On twitter and at the site about what it would take for Falcons fans fans to be okay with Dan Quinn. Staying head coach in the twenty twenty and I was a little bit surprised. I thought that most fans would be like no. We're done but it seems like the majority fans think that if he can win out or win seven of the next eight Games which I still think is tall task that they would be okay with him. Staying saying is head coach so some interesting results. In obviously beating the saints will buy you a lot of grace with with this franchise but let's let's start from that angle. I e how important you think. This game is for the Falcons of Dan Quinn Before we go the Brian to talk about the importance to the panthers. I I think that In particular I think that he bought himself some goodwill last week. no matter what not just beating the saints but going into their house you know doing something that the Falcons have have struggled to do consistently like the Mike Smith in particular. It's been better under Quinn but I mean and especially in a year where they had one win going into it and the saints head end. Verse schedule Earn an inverse record. You know seven and one compared to one seven I I think he bought himself some good well without win especially the fact that he was willing to take a step back from The defensive play calling you know in I some things in change some things up to To make the team better and so. I don't think that this game is a make or break game for him but I do think that he is still. I'm trying to build a case to remain the Falcons head coach at the end and so from that perspective. I think that every minute of every game counts. Yes I think that every mistake is magnified I think every losses magnified and I think that you know we're watching the season slip away very quickly and so from in that perspective. I think that this game is undeniably important to us future. Yep so for reference the poll that was mentioning. We ran the quick one on twitter. quitter thirty seven percent of Fan said that he's gotTa go no matter what thirty six percent said if he finished his nine and seven keep him in. Fourteen percent said eight nate. Keep him in another fourteen percent. Said as long as six ten or better you wish you keep him so interesting wresting results there in you know I think if they're gonNA finish nine and seven. They have to win. Obviously the Sunday so Brian. How important and this game for the panthers with an eye towards the playoffs It's obviously hugely important It's visual game. Even if the Falcons skains might not really have realistic shot at the playoffs. It's still a big game. The panthers need to rebound they've even without Cam. They've always been very very momentum. Based I've said that many times on this podcast and ultimately they have to come back to the way they win football football games which is Christian. McCaffrey the football play. Good defense sacked. The quarterback like this is a game for them to restore their competence. It's also a game. Where Kyle Alan can rebound a little bit Pretty much every game going forward is important because this is the toughest part of the panthers schedule. Because they have the Falcons twice which regardless eldest of their schedule. The Falcons always at least get one win over the panthers are how good they are And they have Seattle they have hundred remember who else they got. They have that up real quick great journalism. You've got Washington and Indianapolis Yeah Washington. Obviously you. I think that's a winnable game. They lost that one last year. and Indianapolis is a tough team. Very well put together. So it's they need to put together a string of wins in order to really get a push for the playoffs because even if they if they don't win the division there's a chance that even if they have say a ten win record that they don't make the playoffs because because the NFC is so stacking right now so really. I think this is the game. Where IF CAROLINA IS GONNA rebound from whatever? The Hell is going on with them right now that they need to go back to their style of football. And Kyle Alan needs to rebound and I I liked Kyle Allen but I don't think think he's GonNa be like your Nick foles type guy. He's a high level backup. I don't think he'll lead them to the Super Bowl but once you get in the playoffs it's all fair game at that point. So that's the objective right now. Yeah new season starts over all right. So let's talk about some of the specific matchups. The one I think is pretty interesting. Here is the panthers defense because I I was reading about them. And you alluded to this. In the first half of PODCASTS. They are a little a bit of a `Nigma they are one of the best pass rushing teams as a matter of fact. I'm a think they lead the league in sacks they are one of the best pass the defense is in the league and they are. I think the one of the bottom three run defenses in the League when he started which is not yeah. Yeah it's it's really weird like you don't normally see that in so they're ranking puts them as like a middle of the road defense And it it's not like they're fourteenth against the pass and sixteen th against the run. It's like they're really good against the pass and really bad against the run. which is not a normal alignment? We see for defensive units. Obviously on the Falcons side of the ball the offense up until Oh this past weekend could not run the ball to save their life and now. We've Austin Hooper probably will not be playing because of a knee injury. devante Freeman is out either. Either Smith is out for the season and it just seems like this is it is the weirdest match Gotcha. I think we're GONNA see Sunday so Brian. I'll start with you here. I what is the story with the panthers. Defense is all of that true. You think some of his exaggerated you know. Are they missing guys like Cohen Short. Thomas Davis is that a factor here is it the change in the style of defense. What do you think is contributing to the sort of a `nigma? Ah That's going on and Carolina right now. I've noticed that. So they they. They allegedly switch to a three four. But it's more of a multiple defense. They run for three three or four depending on the game situation but ultimately they have lighter bodies out there who are guys. We're going to rush the passer who are a lot more athletic but in gap disciplined that becomes a problem when you have a team that is really the vote. It's running the football Brian Burns has been really good for Carolina. Bruce Irvin has been really good for Carolina. I know you guys know who know who he is yet. Gerald McCoy turned out to be a very good signing for them. But this team is basically built to rush the passer. And that's not great when you play against a team that can run the the ball in a game situation they can run the football I think they're missing K.. Want short a lot because he would have been another big body to put in the middle where now now. It's done Terry Po who has been average of defending the run. He's too and Gerald McCoy who has never really been a big run defender as their remained. Defensive Tackles in the defensive ends are a combination of Irvine Burns of Mario Addison. FAO bottle. These are all is is who are basically meant to rush the passer. Yes so I liked the fact that they devoted more of it to the late they they. They corrected the the fact that they couldn't rush the passer last year very effectively. But they're sacrificing the run game. They're honestly if you have that like low tier flex play a fan duel or anything like that. I would put the falcons starting running back there because this could be a game. Where he he ends up going for over one hundred yards on? And it's just because the panthers defense is is weird right now because Thomas Davis were both very successful because of the fact that they didn't have lineman all over them all the time time and now leuke estimate perfect reads shack. Thomson's been great but when they have linemen off all their faces all the time. They're not defensive lineman. They're not expected into be able to. You know put off tackle on his back all the time. So Yep from the standpoint of the rushing gaming it's the panthers defense we could see them totally rebound bound and figure it out. Cause that cause Ron Rivera. Has that weird ability to do that but right now they're just coaching wise. They're not in the right place where they're maintaining gap integrity and staying true the run. They're missing tackles. They've been involving. Eric read a lot and he's a very good run defender but on Sunday he was terrible. So yeah it's it's GonNa be interesting. I don't really even know what to say. Because I could see the panthers coming out. And shutting down the Falcons and I can see the falcons going for like two two hundred yards rushing altogether in Gina. To that point I in some ways. This feels like a match up that that is hard to predict because on the one hand the Falcons have have been trying to run the ball more and they obviously have more success excess against the saints than they have had all year long but there are also missing their top. Two running backs I mean. devante Freeman is going to be l.. More than likely either Smith. We lost him for the season a couple of weeks ago And now we're down to Brian Hill. WHO had a great game against the saints on Sunday but season and he's had you know moments Throughout his career where he is looked apart you know caen in feature back option long-term no but I think especially against a team with a run defense like Carolina's he could probably get some things done. I think Brian it was interesting that you mentioned the DFS angle because shoutouts brains dock one of our readers who is on twitter and he plays in my draftkings draftkings leagues on a regular basis. And so he asked me today. If Brian Hill was a smart quake anything about it. And I mean he is going to be because he's not devante Freeman. He's not you know one top-flight backs but he I think will be able to get some points And so yeah well. While the Falcons have as much success success against the panthers on the ground as like teams with an actual first string running back. WHO's healthy enough to start? Probably not but I think the Brian Hill can have a pretty okay. Whole game wants them? I guess the thing that concerns me is again. The Panthers are one of the best to get after the quarterback and this has been a year again. We're my Matt. Ryan has been pressured pretty regularly throughout the season. That's he got injured because of excessive pressure in the game Before the bye week. So it's this is this feels like a potentially bad matchup for the Falcons offense because they wanna they wanna pass and then on top of that. You're missing an Austin. Hooper who's Relief Valve so on on with the Patriots He was sweeper role. He was a super reliable option for Ryan the entire time that he was here. Calvin readily is having a very inconsistent season You know I think that Jaden Graham has potential but luke stocker is no Austin her And so again. This is a depleted offense. I don't think that fit based on what I know about high ankle sprains. I don't think that Matt Ryan is one hundred percent. I don't think that he will be for a couple of weeks. And you know if they put him on the run and on Sunday. That's going to be. It's going to be a long day and you know the offense played. Well I thought against the saints and I have to single out caleb mcgarry because I thought he really had an exceptional game against one of the better has rushers in the league and Cam Jordan and so you know I think that they're urge selling To steal a phrase from Earth to steal a word from Thomas Roth finally gelling when we had so many personnel l.. Changes because I like. It is our chemistry so I think that they're getting there. Hopefully they can be cohesive enough to keep Matt Ryan from dying it but yeah yeah honestly I just want to say this one thing in response to Gina before we move on but if Matt Ryan is tasked with throwing the ball anywhere from thirty five to fifty the times he's GonNa get killed. Yeah Yeah Yeah. I think that's pretty clear. And they don't want to do that but I think if if the panthers can slow the rundown on first and second down. I think that'd be a key. Because if if you start forcing the Falcons in the third long in in telling US offensive line to hold on for a seven step drop against pass rush. It could be a very very long afternoon. So WanNa flip the script. WanNa talk about the the panthers offense events and this sort of what the hell are. They Falcons. Defense Gina I wanNA start the Falcons defense because you know we saw something completely different Sunday from what we've seen the rest of the season you know we saw the six sacks we saw some great coverage including from a Kendall Sheffield who are. What school did he go to your State University? Dvu even if some of our friends on twitter disagree but yes it what what is your take do. Are you concerned like I am that. Maybe it was a one game. Aberration is it a sign of a turnaround. What is your read on the defense? For the Falcons. I don't think that you can be straight up trash four all of those weeks and then all of a sudden you have one game and everybody is just supposed to be like oh great now. They're just a bunch of all pros. Everything is this egg you know. Is it reasonable to expect that they ah have improved With you know more clang time for the guys who are forced into more snaps because of injuries and you know just more time to acclimate to each other and the changes with the coaching staff. Moving his actions were reasonable to expect. I think that My hope at least that they won't look as much like hot asked as they looked for every game up until the saints game. So that's my hope but yeah I mean as far as expecting them to replicate that performance. I think that that is a long long shot up for disappointment folks. If you think that. That's going to Piss Falcons defense. We see every week. I mean I think Saints Saints Game Aside. They have to continue to earn it. They have to relearn our trust. And that's going to include having to repeat that performance This weekend and Carolina to get us to buy in that they may be better than what we thought have to hold the three field goals. And you're GONNA have to land success that's war in your trash okay. That's that's a pretty high bar but hey you guys set the standard entered yourself so on the road division game. I see no differences here So Brian Panther's offense obviously Carolina's Cam Newton. I want to get your quick take on you. He is actually going to be gone or not Christian McCaffrey. He clearly legitimately one of the best offensive weapons in the NFL. This year. at I don't think that's arguable at this point and Kyle Allen is he good enough that fans shouldn't worry about potentially losing cam and then maybe one thing that I I think is being overlooked or not talked about enough is the panthers offensive line. I it feels like they have some good pieces. But maybe there's still some holes in this this unit. What is can you give Falcons fans a quick read on the panthers offense the camp situation? Just give us the update okay. So the CAM. Newton situation is being horrifically overblown by the national media because David tepper before the season even started instead he would be willing to let Cam Newton sit for the entire season if needed They have a twelve million dollar deal or fourteen million dollar deal or something like going into next year there is no reason to trade him. They're like especially now when he's GonNa be coming off and probably not having played like what trade valued valued quarterback like that half. You'RE NOT GONNA get multiple first round picks for him so he doesn't have trade value. Have Kyle locked in on his rookie deal. He has no choice but to accept except the League minimum next year. So it just doesn't make sense to part ways with Cam. Newton that that fourteen million or so. They're going to have if they cut him or trade. Him is just going to end up going towards a quarterback probably so why would you give yourself that problem. In this off season people have been pointing. The Kyle Allen's win record and like well. He used the future because he's got this many wins and now all of a sudden that win loss record is starting to teeter back to five hundred so it's being overblown loan a lot. And if you if you actually watch kyle and play you can tell he doesn't make the throws that you would want for a quarterback. Yeah he's got he's had some nice throws but he you also Mrs stuff that Cam Newton would hit with Greg Olsen routinely So I don't think that you that Falcon stands should rejoice in that Carolina's is going to let go and Cam Newton. I think he'll be back next year and quite frankly I think he'll be back better than ever no matter what happens this season because he's going to have a whole offseason recover and the whole issue right now. Is Liz Frank Injury injury and not even a shoulder. It's a totally different injury. So those freak injuries happen everybody like it's not it's you know they absolutely. It's not like the shoulder sir. The shoulder injury suddenly contributes to him hurting his foot. It just happens it sucks and you you know it is what it is. He's going to be fine as far as the panthers offense on. Sunday against the Falcons Defense Obviously the number one guide really worry about is Christian McCaffrey. I'm sure that nobody's surprised by that. But just looking at the Saints Game Alvin Kamara touch the ball. Four Times rushing the football and eight times receiving which is twelve touches. You can expect Christian McCaffrey to get double that this game. No matter how bad the panthers offenses he he somebody where you can only contain him for so long the way he's been playing recently and he's going to get the football doesn't matter the the the one thing about the saints is that they don't devote stubbornly to a certain player all the time same from maybe Michael Thomas but even then he's been having a good season No matter how bad the panthers offense is Christian McCaffrey. We'll be getting that football. And he's GonNa get and he will break one open for a touchdown I can. If the Falcons could easily win this game Christian McCaffrey. Having one. Hundred and forty yards of scrimmage is going to happen he's GonNa he's GonNa have a lot of yards. So that's the identity. The Panthers Right now is Kyle. Alan needs to play just enough just well enough for them. Not to lose and Christian. McCaffrey needs to take place. That said you're probably GONNA watch kyle out on Sunday and be like what the Hell is national media. Hyping this guy up about because he'll he'll make throw words like a dime twenty five yards on the field and the next he'll he'll make a spin move and you're like oh we're going to see him unleashed and it'll go thirteen yards down the field where no one is around to touch it. He's just he's just not he's not going to be a franchise quarterback for anybody. I think ceiling is a high level. Backup where you can win. Football Games with them. And I think he's doing that. In Carolina I think he has outstanding poise for a guy who came out as an undrafted free agent He said himself that he expected to be starting in the NFL at some point and and which is not terribly surprised because he was the top rated high school quarterback in his year so Kyle on a not going to say he's great but he is a guy you can win with. And it's GONNA come down to Carolinas offense executing giving him good situations throw in because as we saw at at the end of the packers game when the ball when they had to give the ball Kyle Allen to throw the ball. He couldn't make it happen even like a good quarterback on the last play. The football game. You WanNa give him the ball. What did they do? They give it to Chris McCaffrey. That should tell you the whole story that I think that's a very good point. And you know to that end You were mentioning earlier. How teams build their rosters sort of win within the division? I don't think it's any a coincidence. That Atlanta has gone for faster. Linebacker guys like Dion Jones. Foyer Lucon Devante Campbell. Can all a fly and I think a big part of that is they need to be able to match up with guys like McCaffrey and Alvin Kamara. And that's you know clearly clearly sort of the competition. That's going to go on Sunday now whether or not you know how that plays out I think is going to be a huge factor in this game but with that said we've broken down both sides of the ball. It is time for our predictions Gino go the first. You've heard how it's played out. You've seen these two teams This was gonNA play on Sunday. Well I was in the locker room yesterday and Brian what I regret to inform you is that for the first time. The season the falcons were it was kind of the same vibe as two thousand sixteen like when they were just on a roll nobody gets stop. Unlike they're laughing they're having fun. Ricardo Allen is apologizing to me for being too loud and Rowdy one. I'm trying to everybody's having a great any time like they're just all obviously they're in high spirits coming off a win against the saints. But I think that that I think that that's momentum that they will carry into this week and also so this team knows that if things don't turn around substantially the Dan Quinn is going to get fired and I know that we all as are as Falcons fans have our opinions opinions about Dan cleanse fate and what it should be but I can tell you with great certainty of the players. Love Him and they do not want to be. And so I think that that's another elements of motivation for them. And so you know. I think that they're gonNA come out swinging and like Bryan said even years. On the Falcons are bad. They usually tend to steal one from the panthers. So you know it could be this one. I won't be surprised if it's not but you know I am GonNa go out on the women say yes. I think the Falcons win this week. I think it's probably a close game. I think it's probably somewhere in the realm of twenty seven twenty four and that maybe they went on Young way whose leg you know he certainly had a great game against the love to see him. Get a game winner and Carolina to sorry. Brian Brian you heard it. What is your feel for how this Games go? I have a funny feeling that the panthers are going to come out and have a game. Where Kyle Allen ends up losing the football game because the game script is out there at this point like the buccaneers? I did it once. The forty niners did it. The packers did it. They eliminated they limited Christian. McCaffrey just enough that the panthers offense couldn't keep up with the other team. So Oh it's not like this is an unknown thing but there's some game film out there to show people how to do it so I think we're Christian McCaffrey. Having a good game like let's say I don't know one hundred fifty scrimmage yards and two touchdowns but I think that that's like all we see from Carolina so I predict a twenty four to seventeen. Win by the Falcons. Well I'm also ask you guys know. Ah I think the wildcard here is going to be Great Jarrett. He had to have sex against drew brees on Sunday. He has his playing an all all pro level. Frankly he's one. The best defensive tackles in the League and he is I think he is second in the league in sacks from For Defensive Tackles that tells you what kind of your he is. Having I think the Interior for the panthers offensive line is going to have a day with Jarrett Going after him. But I I still not one hundred percent. Sold on the Falcons defense. I think they're going to play better. But I think McCaffrey free is going to have a day. And I think he's GonNa be the the difference maker here. I take your point that the falcons usually still went from the panthers even when they suck in two thousand fifteen but they usually in those seasons. They win that when at home. So I'm GonNa give the panthers the slight edge here. I'M GONNA say twenty one seventeen. The Panthers Win this one and move back into the playoff race with a six four record so Brian. Won't you tell our listeners where they can. I hate to interrupt that part just real quick. I forgot I never broke down the offensive line Situation Carolina. And what you just brought up made something I bring yes please do so. The panthers have been riding with They started out with trae Turner who or country Turner Trae. Excuse me Daryl Williams who was playing left tackle Michael for them. Who is a rat? A right tackle coming off major knee surgery. He was playing left tackle. He was awful. He gave up three sacks to Shaq Barrett Then they had greg little their second round pick he played one game had a concussion then they had their sixth round pick. Dennis daily who apparently is actually decent left tackle. He's injured this game. But Greg little is back from the concussion protocol. I think of all things to look at with the Dolphins Defensive Line. It's whoever is against Greg. Little coming off a concussion anyway. And obviously jared on Greg Van Paradis trae Turner. That will be big. I don't know how huge impact is going to have as far as sacking. The quarterback goes but I think she killed generate a lot of problems for the line of attack so anyway moving onto when I have going on so I am the the host the keep sounding podcasts for Carolina NC Sr.. I'm also the social media manager. The you'll often see me going back and forth with alcohol on twitter. Are we do that throughout the season usually have really fun time I will have a key. Matchups post coming up on Saturday as well about the panthers versus the Falcons and their key. Matchup players spoiler alert Dante Jackson V. LSU Is going to have a game so watch out for him but yeah you can check me out at Brian. BCS are on twitter. I have changed my name to make it easily. Follow but honestly just follow CASS scratch reader. Because that's where I do most of my good work and thank you for the two thousand fifteen reference. I still hate that so I just I just want you falcons fans to go home with a little homework. which is I if you watch the simpsons? There is an episode called the town. The season is season twenty-eight the episode is three four this this this this video the Episode Happened Prior to the Super Bowl of that year by the way and a description is after finding bart rooting for of Boston. Football Team homer takes family to Boston to show Bart what a terrible city it is. And I'm I am there are I am not bullshitting published before that Super Bowl amazing. I'm also glad that you share that at a moment when in my Boston born say wasn't out the checkout that ever heard I think maybe it'll. It'll make you feel a little better. Just don't look at the season and compounded by God. I'm not kidding you can google it right now. It's that's yeah I'M GONNA go off myself after this podcast now. Thank you for that Bra Gina. Before I meet my inevitable demise one that you tell our listeners where they can find you what you've got going on. You can find me right here on this podcast. You can find me on twitter at Jean Thomas where I I am often tweeting photos of dog or tweeting. An all. Caps about the falcons either. Happy or sad. It doesn't matter mayhew can I may at SP nation actually writing a weekly column Ganic about our fan. Pulse Results Falcons fans. This week's is particularly relevant to your interest because I led this Lewis Column with Just a celebration of how Falcons fan confidence went up. Twenty two points and Saints Fan Confidence Plummeted after the win delight and then of course you can find me at the ALCHOHOLIC and on Fox five Atlanta on Thursday nights reading your tweets on the air. I think I think that's pretty much all I have one on germ Eddie. CSR ON AIR. I actually I think that it was last season. Yes we'll we'll send you the video buddy As for me guys you can find me Of course here. Weekly on the post game podcast regular podcast and hopefully soon. We'll be bring about the crossfire podcast and of course on twitter at W M my articles at the Falcons dot dot com so for Gina Man. Line Thomas and Brian Bevere slew of cat scratch reader. This is David Walker. Thank you guys for tuning in and we'll talk with you next time.

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 Gurley to the Falcons! Gordon to the Broncos! Who's Better? (03/20 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Fantasy Football Today Podcast

15:27 min | 1 year ago

Gurley to the Falcons! Gordon to the Broncos! Who's Better? (03/20 Fantasy Football Podcast)

"More Free Agency news more bonus pods from fantasy football today. Big Time running back news and Eric Brahmaputra covering that on today's show or you bumgarner steelers. We'll talk about that or not. I don't think so I think girl out of here. I came for the Eric Brown. Hot takes baby all right. Well girly and Gordon. I think a little bit more important. So it's Adam as Dave Richard and Ben Gretch okay. We've had three running backs. Change teams three prominent names David Johnson and the Texans. Todd Gurley to the Falcons Melvin Gordon to the Denver broncos. I'll start with Ben. How would you rank those three? Running backs I would probably go Girlie one there and then I don't know. Dj Gordon. I mean I I I will probably rank them all a lot lower than I think. Everyone's going to be down on them but even lower than I think most people would rank them. We talked about this a little bit on the bonus pod yesterday when girly got released thought about like what were the big lessons and it's kind of. Don't get in on running backs a year too late in any of these guys. It could just be over for them. I still think girly and Gordon stopped plenty potential left in the tank and even Dj if he was really banged up last year but Kinda WANNA be shopping for the next big thing running back rather than yesterday's big thing. Okay so he said. Probably girly than David Johnson. Then Melvin Gordon Dave. How would you rank these three? So this is how I have it. Ranked as of now subject to change card is subject to change. Melvin Gordon is going to be at the top of the list for me. He'll be followed by girly and he'll be followed by David Johnson. And there's potential for all three but I think Gordon might be the healthiest and most explosive of the trio and he just got signed to a two year deal with thirteen and a half million guaranteed. He wasn't tossed off the scrap heap into bill. O'brien's waiting hands. He wasn't cut for business reasons. he was a free agent and he got himself probably the most. He definitely the most money out of all three running backs. And I think there's a a decent enough opportunity therefore him to come through with good enough fantasy numbers twenty twenty. So that must mean. You're you're burying Lindsey. Yes which I don't like doing because I thought he was pretty good last year as well and you know a larger role could have been the cards for him. But I think the decision to go out and spend this money on Melvin Gordon and to bring in a running back with the pedigree of Melon Gordon kind of tells you what the Broncos are thinking all right Ben. So Dave's guy. Melvin Gordon I out of this group you have girly I I would. I guess I'd go with Gurley. I liked the situation better for girly. But I think I like Gordon better as a running back. I think so. That's probably Dave Likes Gordon. The best as a running back here and I. I don't disagree with that. Gordon is is fine. I don't think we need to be really worried about him. had just overnight hundred yards from scrimmage in nine touchdowns last year in twelve games because he held out which you know in. Sixteen Games with pace to twelve hundred yards and twelve. Td's the three years prior He had at least thirteen. Hundred yards from scrimmage in twelve. Td's every year and was a top APPR back every year And he didn't even play Sixteen Games a lot of those seasons so he was down a little bit on per game production basis in two thousand nineteen but not like wade out. He's he's never really been super efficient but he's always been very productive now my big concern for him and it's not that. I think that he's over the hill or anything. He's twenty six and twenty five. I mean these guys are not old but my my big concern for Gordon is the chargers. Offense with Philip rivers has been among the league leaders almost every single year in the high value touches that I value for running back fantasy production. Very predictive of running back. Vnc production that's receptions in Green Zone touches. The chargers use their back in the Green Zone. A ton they like to throw them rivers like Was back in the in the Green Zone Equa and Gordon combined for at least seven touchdowns receiving in I believe last two or three seasons and you can go back even before that Danny woodhead had multiple six six receiving touchdowns seasons rivers. This is an offense that was great Not just receiving touchdown receptions and then also rushing touchdowns just great for the types of touches that we like for fantasy so pretty much anywhere Gordon went. I was going to be concerned about that. Because he's never been a hyper efficient back still think he's very good but somebody who's going to almost certainly lose high value touches and now he's going into a committee with young talented backs on an offense. That's not gonna be able to score nearly as many points. I mean if. We're ranking the starting quarterbacks in the League drew lock has to be near the very bottom so that even the upside for these guys as maybe an average offense is just a great situation. It feels a little bit like leaving on. Belleville jets last year where he can still play a lot and CEELO touches but not going to be a good fantasy often that matter so much for running back production it does feel like orange going to need a lot of touchdowns and a lot of catches to and I would imagine that he could be in line for both just because he's more of a fiscal running back than Philip. Lindsay is not say that Lindsay can't get it done at the goal line. Ben I remember telling you before our podcast. He was four for four in a touchdown opportunities from two yards or closer last year but it was only four. And I think Melvin can go in there and handle that duty and I think that Phil Lindsay's has passing downs. Inefficiency makes him risk. I think that's also part of the reason why the Guy Gordon is because he wasn't a great pass protector. He dropped a bunch of passes. They took that role away from him in the second apple last year. And Melvin can pick up for that so maybe there will be some high value touches there after all in Denver. Well well will they get the catches. I think it's to be determine if you look at the last five games of the season. That's when drew lock started. Philip Lindsay and Royce Freeman combined for eighteen catches and five games and and Freeman had most them at eleven. That is a fifty seven point six catch per season pace for those two representatives teams. There may have been fullbacks and other Ronnie Best. I don't know but those two guys combining for fifty seven point six catches over Sixteen Games. Not very good but five games of drew lock is not necessarily drew lock. We don't know what that's going to be as far as girly goes. I mean you look at the opportunities that Devante Freeman has had over the years. A ton of red zone carries three straight years so he's had four healthy years of his last five right three straight years of being top five in carries inside the five yard line great touchdown opportunities great opportunities to catch the ball not necessarily a ton of carries per game. You know maybe were like fourteen or fifteen but a lot of touches and a lot of touchdowns do you think is going to get that big. Workload with the Falcons Dave. Nope I think he's GonNa end up sharing. Because we've seen that from the Falcons in the past to now there was. I can't remember if it was twenty. Six hundred twenty seventeen but there was a year. We're both Freeman antenna. Coleman both had double digit touchdowns so there there's plenty of meat on the proverbial bone for these running backs to get a lot of work if there is a tandem. I don't see there being away. Were the falcons. Don't have a tandem where they add another running back in the draft. Whether it's it's someone of the caliber of the Andrea Swift or jk Dobbins or even camakers and they come in and they pair that young back with girly. But but they've like didn't freeman kind of show that he can be an elite running back even with Kevin Coleman in in in girlies threes. He received where he was. Great Coleman averaged seven point three nine point one and ten point four carries per game. So they're going to even if they split. I think it really comes down to touch touchdowns in the passing game right touchdowns on the ground and then what you're going to do as a pass catcher Where do you see girly falling there? I I'm concerned about it in both cases just because I'm concerned in general about girly holding up which you've been hearing from me for over a year now. He did hold up for much of last season but he didn't look the same. He was saved by the fourteen total touchdowns that he had in la. I have a hard time. I don't WanNA count on him to get double digit touchdowns in Atlanta is a possible or all the facts that you're saying truthful atom of. I don't think it's going to happen. I'm just laying out. The is either now it might. I think there's a chance that he can pick up more work in the fascinating than what he had last year. Because if a rookie is there that that's a player who probably is not going to be ready to protect Matt Ryan. Right and probably won't be ready to be effective in the passing game whereas girly can be a factor there so I I think that girlie can handle passing. Downs work depending on the type of running back. They add with girly. He could end up being a guy that they prefer the goal line because he's physical and that's one thing that he proved last year that could get into the end zone. Twelve minutes a better offensive line for him. Now but there is risk that you must build into tag girlies fantasy value. Ben You were going to say I'll just say that funny stat Todd Gurley. According to pro football reference had twelve carries inside the five yard. Line the Falcons as a team had eleven and Devante Freeman had one but that was two thousand nine hundred ninety. The history of devante Freeman with the Falcons has been a lot of carries near the goal line while also sharing some with Kevin Coleman. Okay your thought there Ben. Well Yeah I mean I. I think we definitely have to be concerned about girls health. We all know that But I'm reading between the lines here a little bit and I I think teams tell us you know what their intentions are. And we heard that the Falcons made a pretty strong run to try to acquire via trade. Like they were the one or there was one other team Miam- zone. The Miami was the other one but they were. They were actually trying to make that happen. Which if you look at their cap situation. It's bad that like they couldn't have done that. They would have had to take on a lot more his capito lot higher under his current contract so acquiring via trade as opposed to signing him for what they signed him for. I think it was six million Would have been meant would have meant cutting more players in and doing some things but they were still pursuing that as much as they could. I think they really wanted to get him. And then you add in that he gets cut in within twenty four hours. They've acquired him so it to me. It looks like the Falcons of really wanted to bring him back in. Obviously he's from from Georgia. Went to the University of Georgia I I'm reading that saying okay. They WANNA make in their lead back and I'm kind of expecting now where they may be. We're going to draft a running back in the second round they'll go in the third or the fourth and be a little bit later in the draft in a lot of the names. Dave just said and get like a secondary back like when they added Edo Smith to be behind devante Freeman. I mean I think that's what they'll do. They'll get like a a less notable name if that does happen if we see them continue to tip their hand that they wanNA girl lead back than than his situation. Is the best of of these three backs. And we're talking about these three veterans Freeman cop fifty nine balls last year in this offense. Even as he looked a very over the hill for for the most part I think girlies receiving could be there and I agree with you out in touchdowns could be this. Good offense like this one of the best possible in spots in the entirely. Yeah for it is but I. I don't know what to make of the six point. Seven yards per catch last year for girly and in talking about a lack of explosiveness. Just it was evidently yards per carry was evident watching him and the yards per catch is just pathetic. He just did nothing with the ball so I hope he gets that opportunity by the way that that opportunity in terms of catches hasn't been super consistent catches per game for devante Freeman in in for healthy seasons. Four point nine three point four two point. Eight and four point two all right. I want to make one last point here. Freeman last five games of the year he had he was on pace for a let me. Just get the exact numbers for two hundred and forty six carries in his first nine games before his injury he was on pace for one hundred and ninety carries so fifty-six more carries that was his pace in the final five games. Why because the Falcons went four and one and they allow twenty point four points per game the first nine games they went to in seven allow twenty eight point eight points per game so the defense ga better. They allowed eight point. Four fewer points per game and Devante Freeman was used as a workhorse back on pace for two hundred and forty six carries. So that is a big number knots not gonNA lead the League but a catch by the way did not decline so. I thought that was pretty interesting. And maybe it gives you assign that if their defense is better they'll run the ball more and they might use tug early in. Pretty Nice role now. Let's do a few questions finish off our little bonus show. Would you rather draft Calvin Ridley or todd? Gurley Ridley. Not even close rather draft coralline sudden or Melvin. Gordon Korten Sutton also not even close. I'll take Melvin. Would you rather have Corlett Sutton or Todd Gurley? So I have something over girly. Would you rather drive Devon single terry or your favorite running back that we discussed on today show as of this moment at single? Terry but Melvin. Gordon seemed rather close to signing with Buffalo. It seemed there were some rumors that he was going to go there. So are the bill shopping for a running back to if they add one that will obviously her devon single theories upside. I'll take I think I'll say girly. Okay we'll do one more. Okay Todd Gurley for for Ben. Melvin Gordon Dave. Our favorite running backs from today's show or Darren Waller running back back. Okay all right guys good. Show thank you all right. Who's ready for nine minute? Dissertation on Eric. Hebron next boat is just Dave by himself talking about Eric Abroad. Dave and Ben at we'll hit you up on Monday with another addition of fantasy football today. Purley tight end from North Carolina not enough.

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Game Postponements? Plus Injury Updates and Start or Sit (10/11 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Fantasy Football Today Podcast

06:52 min | 1 year ago

Game Postponements? Plus Injury Updates and Start or Sit (10/11 Fantasy Football Podcast)

"What's going on everyone? He's an I. Just recorded our latest edition of the fantasy football today and five podcast and about two minutes after we finish recording the news broke that Tennessee titans coach has tested positive. So anything you hear about that game is a little bit outdated. You obviously need to be very, very cautious about that game. It's clearly in jeopardy, but we don't know much more than that right now with that being said here is fantasy football today in five hopefully get some good start or sit information the show and good luck in week five do we have any games that are in jeopardy of not being? Played we'll update you on that plus injury news and starters set right now on fantasy football today and five. Hey Good morning everybody it is five. Let's get ready for the Games. Very excited to watch some football today as or he thought he'd coming here on F F T and five upon tacit. Get you caught up fast on the fantasy news and advice he needs to go. If you are listening in the F. T. feed, please follow extreme fantasy football today in five on spotify. What's going on with Patriots game? They shut down the persona that another test on Sunday morning and you've got to be a little nervous here. I'm. A lot nervous I've been. You know as you've been going through your seventeen intros to get just perfect. Yes. That was number seventeen. I've been trying to take all the James White and REX burkhead out of my lineups, and that's me and I'm starting some jd mckissick Devante Freeman on Sunday, and that's just how scared I am. We don't know and it's possible that I don't know what type of their retake tests this morning I don't know if they're like the rapid tests and maybe we could hear something before one PM kickoff. The broncos are supposed to be flying to foxborough today. But as we saw last week, the Patriots flew on Game Day so they could push the broncos back a day it. I think the most prudent course of action is to act as if the game's not going to happen and the funny thing started funny. But ironic parts is that as of right now, Sunday morning, Cam Newton hasn't even been ruled out yet. So there's a chance if the game is played that he might play. Yeah. I. I I do think there still a couple of I I like life rafts sitting out there I guess. The only game we know for sure that's going to play after Sunday, with is that charger? Saints Game. they've not had any problems at all either of those two teams and last I looked Justin. Jackson was still not rostered an even half of leagues. Okay. Yeah. So that's that's kind of the. If you can go get him if you're super duper desperate if like the titans bills seem more likely at this point to play then the Patriots and Broncos. And the titans we know are not going to have Corey Davis Adam freezing AJ broncos, and played in a month. So Khalif Raymond is probably going to see a half dozen targets and at a big gain the last time the titans put. A Kansas, city coach has tested positive strength and conditioning coach. So. It's Sunday and they play the raiders today. What are we thinking? I I have that happen yesterday and I have heard nothing since that happens that leads me to believe that game is in question. So I think we just proceed unless we hear something else and that's the problem was doing this I should correct myself Justin Jackson available in thirty, six percent of leagues now, but still if you get him. All right he's got a lot more news. Here's Buffalo Tennessee is set for Tuesday and looking looking better. In terms of that game being played Joe, mixing expected to play. Are you starting at both at Baltimore? I you probably have to I would rather start Mike Davis. I would rather start Kareem Hunt. Now we believe where he most it's going to play, and so I would start mixing over Jerick McKinnon who we were really excited about earlier in the week. Could you start mixing? MOSTER. I would start mixing over both I think I would actually start Mckinnon over most you're still they're both right in that low in number two ranch Julio. Jones is going to be a game time decision. How does his status affect? Matt Ryan Russell Gauge. Calvin Ridley Zacchaeus etc. The thing is with the receivers Pacific women zacchaeus would just disappear from being a possible flex Julio Played Ridley engage I think they're efficiency is helped enough by his presence that the lot any loss in volume would be made up for I. Liked them just about the same you're starting calvin relief regardless engages a fine number three. Matt Ryan I would be slightly more interested in, but he'd remain in that low in number one quarterback range Michael Thomas is questionable and as of Sunday morning right now are you putting Michael Thomas in your lineup? He has a Monday night game. I yeah. I. Had that choice in a lot of leagues and in most of those leagues, he's in a flex spot right now because I have a chargers running back that I can put in for him. have one league, right? Don't have that choice and I just like. I don't really have anybody that I feel even it's not like with James Whitewater and binging for JD mckissick. I'm mostly just GONNA. Probably, Roll Thomas out there and hope so you wouldn't start like Darius late and over him. SLAYTON's a little different story like I was saying I wouldn't start mckissick or Devante Freeman over him but I do like I like slate enough that I probably would all right real quick starts and sits Teddy Bridgewater or Matt Ryan were drew brees. I'm going with touchdown teddy and he gets three day Jimmy. Garoppolo is back. Would you start them over Ryan Fitzpatrick? I would happily Kenyan drake or a waiver wire running back. I don't believe. I have any waiver wire running backs ahead of Drake about Kenyan Drake Joe Mixing Kenyan Drake or Levy on Bell? I would start Levian over drake in full PBR and I would start mixing. Yeah. Start makes it over drake do and finally who are just a couple of wide receivers you're feeling good about this week. A sneaky one I'm feeling good about his Greg Ward Dijon Jackson ruled out Alshon Jeffery ruled out they're going to be playing from behind. They don't have Dallas Either Been Greg Ward season enough targets where he has a good day. NPR. And I'm pretty pretty excited about Terry maclaurin. Matchup hasn't mattered all that much. The quarterback hasn't matter all that much. He's just a number one rider see that no one seems to want to treat like a number one. All right. That's your Sunday edition of Fantasy football today in six. Well, you know you need the vote today. So we appreciate it that teeth coming on as or make sure you're following US and streaming us on spotify. Good luck in week five everybody check out the fantasy football today podcast for an instant recap of your game.

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FROM THE SB NATION NFL SHOW: The Look Ahead previews PHI NYG

Bleeding Green Nation

13:13 min | 1 year ago

FROM THE SB NATION NFL SHOW: The Look Ahead previews PHI NYG

"The following segment is from the look ahead on the SP nation NFL show where we we're discussing your favorite team subscribe to the SP nation NFL show to make sure you don't miss conversations like this one and you set it and everyone's been saying a NFC lease and all that. But you know what the division is still up for grabs. Your fan of the giants are a fan of the eagles you're watching this game and you're interested and so a note that the records aren't good but it matters. Yeah it does I've I've said this had big blue view. It's it's amazing. It's embarrassing. It's annoying it's it's all of those things. But you know what? It's also a game that has first place implications as weird as that seems, it has first place implications. So it's a big football game. Yeah. It's between two bad teams, but it's a big game. And that's what you care about as a fan. So we're GONNA talk about it as it is a big game big news for the Eagles in that Lane Johnson Andrew Sean Jackson look like they're going to play. They were limited in practice on Wednesday but Doug Peterson. said, he thinks they're going to play as a giant Fan ed are you a little nervous now the Carson Wentz is actually going to have somebody to throw the ball to for. A change well, you know from from a giants perspective, we're not really allowed to talk about that that particular Disease Sean Person We're just just not allowed to talk about him. You know it it's bad mo-jo whatever we're just not allowed to talk about that particular player. Carson wentz almost beat the ravens last week without eighty percent of his offensive line. His top three receivers is topped two tight ends and his best running back for most of the game. Starting to get some weapons back maybe he can kind of round into form and look a little bit more like that guy that was in the running for MVP a few years ago. You know it's amazing. You you listen to to the folks in Philly you read. Read bleeding green nation. and. You know they're they're ready to to throw Carson Wentz off of a bridge in Philly you know they they really are but Carson Wentz Carson Wentz is a good NFL quarterback i. mean he's not rodgers but he's a good NFL quarterback. I mean this guy has been running for his life all season he hasn't had lane Johnson. Brandon Brooks Andre Dillard. Jason Peters, what does he had for an offensive line I? Think I looked at the stats. The other day he's he's on pace to be sacked sixty, six times this season sixty, six times I think his career high in times he he's been sacked is is somewhere in the thirties. So the guys running for his life, he's got no, he's had no receivers. How is anybody in that circumstance going to put up any numbers? So I mean, I, haven't studied all of the film of, of Wentz, this year if you want to say, he misses an open receiver once in awhile fine. But if you can't protect your quarterback if you've got no one for him to throw to. Then in his numbers are GonNa Stink you sound strangely sympathetic for the guy that runs big blue view no I'm not sympathetic but but I understand this because. People spent years criticizing Eli Manning, and this is what I said for years and years and years he drops back. He's getting killed and he throws the ball to a bunch of guy. Sui Pretty much introduced himself to two or three days ago. So you know A. I mean, there were years when the guys giants were picking up free agents on Tuesdays and play in Amman. Sunday. And you just can't succeed that way I just you know I guess point is I understand that Wentz is a better player than his numbers indicate and I keep looking at this affiliate team and you know I've said it to Philly people before it's like they won the Super Bowl. Three years ago and I thought they were set up with a young roster cost controlled roster of of guys I thought they were set up for a nice long run and it just hasn't happened now windows closed fast in the NFL I mean, look at the rams, they win the Super Bowl couple years ago missed the playoffs last year for nine years or in the Super Bowl last year this year starting off struggling I mean things life comes at you fast as the kids say and you know they are trying to work their way through it now and hopefully getting some offense back with the return of he who shall not be named. Yeah we we don't mention that name and we also don't punch to him either we do not. I watched that highlight actually this morning I don't know it came up my twitter feed in is incredible that number one that they punt to him and then number two, he fumbles the ball series it comes to them then he just picks it up and flies to the ends out. It like the parting of the Blue Sea. And then immediately I, I'll never forget this. They smash cut to Kaufman coming off the sideline looking like he's going to murder the punter and you know. After that year, Matt Dodge never worked in the NFL again. Jackson ending careers over here. On the giant side of things Ed. For you know, we talk about the eagles struggles on offense the giants are worse. The giants can't score at all. They've only scored one hundred, one points this season it's the third lowest in in the entire NFL I know saquon Barkley hurt and that that obviously is a factor but you gotta be able to score points offense never been easier what's going on? Well, you're absolutely right. You've got to be able to score touchdowns in the biggest thing with the giants has been lack of of what everybody refers to as explosive plays. And some of that comes from not having Saquon Barkley. Many some of that comes from. Sterling Shepard having been out for a while. I think some of that also comes from really not using. Evan. Ingraham. Correctly, the giants are using him on a lot of short quick little throws rather than getting him down the field. or at least getting him on crossing routes where he can try to outrun somebody and get up the field. But the other thing of it is Daniel Jones has made several critical mistakes in the red zone at the goal line this year that have cost the giants touchdowns. You cannot drive the ball for nineteen plays like they did against. Pittsburgh. And come away with zero points. You cannot drive the ball for fourteen plays like they did. I think against the cowboys and get down inside the ten yard line and come away with zero points, you just cannot do those things are actually I think that was actually against Washington the other day, but but you can't do those things. And take points away from away from your team in the. NFL. Games. Come down to a handful of plays and you just can't make those those kinds of critical errors. Yeah. I've said it on this show I've said on other shows sometimes playing quarterback is all about the worst thing that you do during a game and the worst thing that Tena Jones does is he's Either turn the ball over or just putting the ball on the ground and those are Dr killers absolute drive killers especially when not only do you take touchdowns off the board but when you turn it over, you take field goes off the board to. Everybody if you watch. NFL Game. Every quarterback makes a handful of mistakes during a game. Every quarterback will miss an open receiver once in a while, every quarterback will probably. Throw, a ball once in a while that he probably shouldn't have thrown. Daniel. Jones, just has this. Or so far in his career, he has this this habit. Of. Making those. Mistakes. At. The most spectacular we awful times imaginable. That's that's not a good quality to have for any back. Let along the guy that you're hoping is going to be your franchise guy for years to come when it does come to that offense to me this season right now with who you have out there the most aspect of it is Daniel Jones running the wall. Do you think we're going to see some more designed runs for Daniel Jones? He broke out last week what did he have a forty nine yard run like he can scoop and that's the best thing you've got going for you. If you're the giants I, think you have to I think you almost have to because they're not getting the big explosive plays. In the passing game, the way that you'd like to. devante Freeman is a nice running back. He you know they've they've figured out what he does well but. We talk about explosive plays and I've seen a handful of plays over the past two weeks where. devante Freeman gets to the second level. Any you know maybe eight yards downfield and he's one on one with a safety and I'm thinking if that's Barclay, that's fifty and he's gone. And And devante freeman gets his yards and goes back to the huddle. And it's a huge difference. It's a huge difference when you know he's a good solid running back. But he's but but he's not going to break that fifty yard rone's not GonNa make people missing run away from him in the secondary and it makes a big a big difference I mean that said the giants have to get better on offense. I don't know if that's you know I'm GonNa. Let you pick this game I. The eagles are giving four and a half in this one Far, be it for me because a little disturbance in the pod, but I have to go with the Eagles in this one at I'm sorry it feels to me like the giants are just beaten down. It feels to me like they don't expect to win any games that they've just sort of resigned themselves that this is a loss year even though they're still technically in it, I don't feel a sense of urgency from the giants with the Eagles I do I mean they're getting beat by the Ravens last week and they almost come all the way back if Doug Peterson calls a better two point conversion play that game is tied up. At the end of the game there. I, feel like there's urgency from Philly to Sean Jackson is back. Maybe they start to get a little bit Healthier Carson Wentz playing better now than he did earlier in the year and I don't know if you're aware this ed but the eagles are going with the black jerseys and they are five and no against the giants when wearing their black services. So the eagles allay the points all good things all bad things come to an end stats always they always come to an end and I look at it this way they can be eagles like you said, they're five and zero in their black jerseys. There they've beaten the giants seven straight times. Beaten the giants. Twenty out of the last twenty, four times that they've played but I'm going to disagree with you on the fact that I think that that the are beaten down I think that when I look at these teams in the NFC east, the cowboys should be better than they are. The Eagles should be better than they are, and maybe if they get healthy, maybe they will be better than they are. But right now today as we do this show, the giants are one and five. And I would make an argument. That based on the way they've played the team that might be on the upswing in the NFC east the team that might be getting better in a week over week is the giants I just have to believe that sooner or later they're going to beat this team. They're going to beat the eagles sooner or later this has to change and and maybe I'm wearing my blue colored glasses. But but I'm going to pick the giants to pull the upset tonight and believe it or not. I'm the only one on the big move you staff who has made that pick. So maybe I'm wearing the blue colored glasses you know maybe maybe I need to go see the doctor I don't know. La Again I have lost a lot of money on streaks to end at. I. Will say that Yeah but you know there there's no money I'm just I'm just recommending other people spend their money I'm not spending any of my own that's the best way to do it make sure you don't miss our next conversation by subscribing to the SP, nation NFL. Show wherever you get your podcasts

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New York Giants Running Evaluation Show

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New York Giants Running Evaluation Show

"Welcome back folks to our next position evaluation. Show here on biglou view. I m joji leone. Joined by chris bomb and nick faldo as we did with the quarterback show. We are breaking down our takeaways from the season and our future expectations for the offseason. Nfl draft for every single new york giants position group here part of big blue view as i said folks make sure you go and hit that subscribe but and leave us a review if you enjoy listening to the show and had to biglou dot com for more giants news and analysis. Today we are talking running backs which is a really interesting group to discuss. Because you have an ultra talented guy like saquon barkley leading. The way could have had a fantastic year but his season is cut short just after a game and a few carries with acl injury against the chicago. Bears win gelman then stepped up midway through the year. Finish the year strong and that leaves us with the perplexing question of does he stay. Does he go. What is the role going to be for both of these guys guys. Let's open things up here. Start talking and the one thing. I wanted to address here. I is will saquon barkley coming back in two thousand twenty one one lead to success running the football but the other thing too is. Are we going to see the same type of scheme that we saw in the second half year where it was a lot of inside rushing plays. Maybe that stuff changes nikola tesa- you first. What do you think. Do you think saquon is going to be coming back and and just as productive as goldman and things might be a little bit different though i think just the addition of saquon barkley explosiveness and his ability to generate explosive. Plays which was one of the many achilles heels of this giants. Offense will really help the twenty twenty one giants. I do feel if jason garrett his back still going to be power gap. It's going to be similar types of concepts which i actually kind of work to the benefit of saquon barkley barkley in the inside. Zona pat shurmur vision. Wasn't his his best trait. I think is safe to say and he really had that many chances because defense is keying on him. There's no doubt about that either. I think in this power gap scheme which is incredibly physical where he has a one designed whole that he's going to hit now you can always cut it back if another whole materializes but you're really focused on that one whole i think his explosive ability and second gear are really going to work wonders especially when he gets into that whole. And there's one defender that allie defend are coming down hill and it's the safety coming with momentum against saquon barkley in his agility lateral ability quickness. I think that could really help. Saquon barkley just have more. Explosive plays in that type of running scheme. I'm actually curious to see you guys agree with me. I'm excited to see him. I was excited to see him in that scheme. Because we thought there would be more power gap with jason garrett coming over in that ended up happening we saw that first dallas game the roll out with a bunch of counters and they and they just hit dallas counter counter counter and devante freeman. Did a really good job. If i think that that was guam barkley it would have been. It would have been something. And i'm willing to say. I don't think this is a heartache. By any means but if saquon barkley never gets injured i think the giants win this division. And it's easy. I think all those really close games could be flipped by one cow. Play from saquon barkley which we've seen through the years at something that he's really capable of doing so i really i'm excited for him in this offense. Yeah i think that could happen but it would have to take barkley really buying into being a one cut downhill runner which has never really been his game. Even going back to penn state. He was always really an improvisational runner. At least in my eyes kind of was just Is almost like the robin williams of running backs where you give him the wall and then you just kind of see what happened out. Obviously the running game between pat shurmur and jason garrett is very different very different blocking schemes. But he would always seemed to be a guy who was looking for the better whole he would dance around. Behind the line of scrimmage trying to make five different guys miss rather than picking up with. What was there for him. He always trying to hit that home run and granted plenty of times that did work out but then he also would get caught. Behind the line of scrimmage wind up running backwards or have a phenomenal twenty yard. Run for a one yard gain. So yeah i really does have to commit to waiting for the block. The blocks to establish and following his blockers and hitting that one whole and using all that explosiveness overall nick. I'm on the same page as you. Though i. I do really see that. There's no reason to change up the scheme in the approach when you realize that there could be good success with the guy that's far less dynamic in wayne goldman. Goldman did a great job. But i think we can all agree here. Kalman's nowhere near the same level of explosive running back. That saquon barkley is. That shouldn't be a hot take. I also agree with the sentiment that if you have the whole year a couple of gigantic run plays like sixty yard. Rush plays fifty forty yard rush place. That's enough to win your division in some of these close games. Where were they lost early on in the year but the big thing talking about why what we saw for the second half and what was emphasized in the run game. I think a lot of that success just came from the offensive line being a little bit more consistent a little bit more bought in and more capable of running that power gap scheme. It was a lot less issues than what we saw. In those first two games against the bears in the steelers there were no rushing lanes. There was nowhere to run. The football daniel jones was asked to do way more than he's capable of doing in those first two games and that is what ultimately led to a lot of problems. But now after having that final stretch of games under your belt you you can now see that they're capable of doing that on a consistent basis. There's young is in the group. Maybe zeitler doesn't return. You're possibly getting back nate solar. There's a lot of mixed pieces in here. But regardless i think the offensive line performance as it should always be with when talking about running backs is going to be really key here that is going to be most important and right now they're trending upwards they have the momentum from this final stretch heading into twenty twenty one. The office of line is huge. Nothing chris brings a valid point about saquon barkley in his propensity to bounce it outside. But i do feel this power gap when there is a design hole in your say kwanza. Smart guy. you look. You're going to hit the five hole. You're going to go off the back of the of the guard. Or what have you whatever. Whatever it is he can do that. And then once he gets past that if those blocks do materialize which. i think. We're all confident that this office of line is taken strives to wear. Those blocks can be their most the time once he gets that second level. That's where it gets incredibly dangerous. And that's where i'm really excited but barkley that's always been an issue. His i mean he played a penn state where they blind in the on the majority of the times and he ran out of the shock. On which is something that we saw daniel jones and jason garrett this year i think that definitely benefited them as well something that he had a lot of success with at the college level but he has to be a little bit more decisive. That's always been an issue for saquon. It has since i just can. Contrast is absolutely not weighing almonds issue. He is. I think there is an argument to be made that he is the most decisive most efficient running back in the nfl. He spends basically no time. Behind the line of scrimmage and we saw that in the last game where he gets playing so fast that i fumble it worked against him where he was already trying to hit the whole. Before you even had the ball secured for the most part that worked really well because he didn't have to wait all that long for flocks materialize. He could get to the whole as it was opening before defenders had a chance to come up phil and he would always have momentum to pick up three four sometimes five yards with about the same number of defenders on his back. And just something i noticed. Is that if you look at a nfl. Nexgen stats at the most efficient running backs in the league. Wing almond is number is tops in the league but then the backs behind him a ronald jones ii tampa bay gus edwards at baltimore. Jk dobbins out of baltimore. Latavius murray out of new orleans. David johnson out of houston devante booker of las vegas. Not layoff teams. But then you nick chubb in cleveland. Aaron jones green bay. Myles gaskin miami jonathan taylor in indiana miles sanders. Derrick henry down in tennessee. Those are all running backs on your really good playoff-caliber teams and they all have that one thing in common where they don't waste time. Behind the line of scrimmage they hit the whole hard and they hit it fast. yeah wing goldman. I think overall this is a really good takeaway to open up into now here and this is what you're definitely getting at. Chris is that goldman was an unexpected top performer for that final stretch of games and what we touched upon a little bit. During the quarterback show is being able to run. The football effectively. Became the identity of this offense. It was a lot put on. How well they ran the football in the best games in the games that they were because they had really good rushing performances and the big surprise that comes out of this is going goldman a relatively underperforming guy in his first few years in the league. He's in a contract year. Any steps in takes over the loaded carries despite them bringing in devante freeman who inevitably gets hurt pretty quickly. He steps in and he takes over the lion's share of carries in a bunch of these games. He has really really good games. Not necessarily a hundred yard rushing game every single game but when you brought them in in these goal line situations he was able to to hit. Pater get those touchdowns. Pick up the tough yardage a like. I already mentioned earlier. Not exactly the most dynamic and explosive guy. but he's just consistent he he was not the almost polar opposite of what we're used to seeing. What saquon where saquon will lose yards on one play and then pick up fifteen another instead. It was goldman for three or four yards and then when the whole opened up pick up ten but that was really the that was the cap of what we were going to get with wing almond. It's good to have that it's consistent but it's not explosive to a point where you can really buy into that as a long term solution. Yeah i think that's fair wing allman. I mean this year. He averaged about four point. Six yards per carry had six hundred and eighty two yards on the ground with one hundred and forty seven carries and six touchdowns like you said that four point six kind of at a good number to have no doubt but we saw wing on when he did get an edge and broke into the secondary and had square path towards the end zone. He gets tracked down by jamal adams quick and very good defender for sure. But he's not one of those home run type of players. But i still think what. He gives this roster. If it's if the money is right. I mean i think a lot of giant fans would love to have wing comes back. I would definitely be one of them. I you know. I think we'll get into after the commercial break. The brass tacks that side of things. But i think goeman does give you a lot of what. You're ideally looking for from a running back explosiveness but consistency the ability to stay on schedule as an offense to stay ahead of the change. That's what he brought clemson and he was finally able to play like that. You know the the areas where i think the running game is most necessary yet most useful. It's best way to try to advance. The football is short yardage and in the red zone and those are the areas where allman excelled we saw. He was very difficult to stop short yardage situations yet because he would hit the whole so hard and you'd have so much momentum and i don't know what that dude squats but it wouldn't surprise me if he was getting close to four digits because he could carry pretty much anybody the defense threw at him and then in the red zone. You'd say yet six touchdowns all six came in the red zone less than twenty yards out and he only had nineteen red zone carey's last year so that's basically a touchdown every three carries that is honestly really pretty. Impressive are now. We're going to transition are focused to discussing our expectations for the offseason. Before we do folks. We're just going to take a short commercial break the you kind of like this guy. But when you can't decide between the filet o. Fish or the big mac and he says luggage both. Thank you definitely like this guy meal. Get it at mcdonald's when he get to of your face for two six packs. Let time only participation may very similar price support for this podcast comes from progressive. What would you do with an extra eight hundred dollars by plane ticket paid on your student. Loan treat yourself to those though. Shoe benign with progressive. You could find out drivers who switch and save save an average of seven hundred ninety six dollars on car insurance get your quote online at progressive dot com and see how much you could be national average annual car insurance savings by new customer survey who save with progressive in two thousand nineteen. Well as you can expect we talked a ton of outweighing gaughman more than anybody else. It's a bit of an odd mix. Besides wayne gaughman alfred. Morris stepped off the practice squad and played a few games yet. dion lewis. Who was a free agent last year. Who did some okay things but not exactly a name that needs to be talked about in full depth but the big question that we now have to address is does win allman ended up coming back to this giants team in right now. He's expected to be a free agent and ultimately for me guys the thing that and we were discussing this before we hopped on the show. Here the big thing for me is i think in a perfect world wayne. Goldman comes back. He's willing to take a smaller contract because he understands. He's a backup running back. He's not going to earn big running back money despite having a good stretch of games through the final few games this year. however what's probably going to end up happening is that goldman and his agent are going to be realistic enough heading into this offseason to know. He's not going to command top running back money however his expectations and i think their goal is going to be finding a team where he's probably going to get more touches in more opportunities to get the football team which we see a lot now. A lot of these teams are running multiple. Running max in a rotation in different guys are having big games like a green bay packer type team and teams. That are like that. With new head. Coaches are going to seek out. Somebody like wing allman to be that secondary player in their rotation inevitably if that ends up happening in that opportunity arises. I really don't see how wayne goldman comes back to this team. Honestly me neither end. That's kind of what. I was getting at before the commercial break. I don't think the the money will be a tremendous issue. The giants don't have a whole lot of cap space right now but they can make cap space. They can manipulate contracts. They can cut some aging in underperforming veterans. And they can free up a decent chunk of change. Even though i think the running split Probably could go as high as sixty percent of the curious goto barclay forty percent. Go to goldman realistically saquon. Barkley is going to take pretty much every snap. He is healthy and able to do not fatigued for that doesn't leave a whole hell of a lot for wing gaughman next year. And he's going to want you even if you want so taking a short term contract you know. Maybe a proven deal to show that this year wasn't a fluke. He's gonna wanna touch the football he. He got a taste of that he. He doesn't want to go back to the bench. I mean who would. That's an excellent point. I do feel wayne. Gaughman is going to do. What's in the best interest for wing allman. But i think an interesting wrinkle. The kind of think about is other free to running back at are going to be out there because there are several top end guys but let's think of people more in the realm of a wing almond. You're going to have guys like jamaal williams. You're going to have guys like james conner. You're gonna have guys like chris carson. There's going to be several free agents. That could possibly hit. That could also altering. I'm going to go with what's safe. Sign a team friendly deal. I like gioja like what's going on here and if there isn't necessarily a spot that no one's gonna throw money at wayne gaughman but a spot that's going to give wing on the security and the money that you want along with the opportunity he could end up staying but i think ultimately in the end. He's probably going to end up leaving and going to bowl to you. Guys already suggested a team where he can probably get more opportunities with the healthy saquon opportunities. Going to be there for you. They're winning it alternately. Some teams and you mentioned some of those bigger names. Those guys are probably going to be looking for some bigger contracts and we saw what happened for a guy like devante freeman who bet on himself assumed he was going to get a good deal doesn't really end up making anywhere. In striking distance of the money he was looking for if teams are looking for a cheaper option. That's willing to come in and again be that guy in the rotation maybe take over the command of touches. If you don't have a solidified runningback situation maybe you go and take a chance on a guy like wing goldman because he's going to be relatively cheap and the other thing too that i kinda wanna throw into the mix here is you also have to pay saquon barkley very very soon. So that's also going to be in the back of the minds of dave gettleman for however much longer he's here with the giants. Do they decide to or do they try to protect that situation and save as much money for the running back position for saquon barkley i think that ultimately values more than re-signing a guy like wayne goldman. Because you're going to want as much money as possible considering how much money we're seeing go to guys like derrick henry and also to to dalvin cook this past off season you can throw joe mixon in there. It's going to cost a lot of money to keep saquon barkley. So they're going to need any time that they can get especially with the cap closing down on them and that's the other thing for even just this year right now. The giants have the six highest spending at the running back position. And that's was just two guys under contract of i believe saquon. Barkley is about the yet. He is the fourth highest. Paid running back in the nfl for twenty twenty one. Now that's before any potential new contracts by don't really think the market is gonna get shifted at the running back position in a year where the calf is going to shrink. I just don't see that happening so we'll probably go in in the top five of running back contracts so that that makes resigning when gaughman to even a team. Friendly deal you know. He's probably not gonna resigned for vet minimum. So he's probably gonna want. I would guess somewhere between two and three million dollars a year. Which that's i don't think that's an unfair amount to pay him but now bumping that ten million up to twelve thirteen when the giants also have to make decisions about dalvin tomlinson leonard williams and maybe try to find an edge rusher somewhere find a wide receiver somewhere yet. The economics of it are really tough so the last piece on ad in here of in we clearly believe that we don't think wayne gaughman is going to be coming back but the the conversation we now have is. What direction do they go. If gaughman does not return alfred. Morris was fun while it will. We had them here on the giants. But i don't think that's a long term solution. Same thing with dion lewis very clearly as lost a step because he's on the wrong side of thirty. I honestly believe that this is going to be a year for them in their draft. Approach that come early day three. They're probably gonna take running back. This is an opportunity a few years into saquon contract. Spend not a lot of money on drafting somebody. That is not going to be a very committed contract not a very expensive contract and there's an interesting group of guys. I think in that early day three conversation that could be on the radar for the giants and some of the guys that that stood out to me and just going through some of the consensus prospect rate rankings thailand hill from mississippi state. You're patterson from buffalo. I think is an interesting name. Trae sermon from ohio state depending on how he does during this draft process. And then elisha mitchell. Are you guys on the same page with that. It seems like it makes a lot of sense for some time. Maybe early day three or day. Three in general that they should address this backup running back spot and get somebody a explosive. Somebody finds somebody young that is going to work into this rotation not work in the rotation but be a secondary option for saquon if one something bad happens or to if he needs a breather. I don't think the giants should force that and they only have six draft picks right now but if it's somebody that they are high on than yes i mean. I never really believed that and i'm sure you guys probably agree. That general manager should force a position just for that it has to always come down to the individual. The player and the giants are sitting there right now. They have the eleventh pick. The forty second seventy six one zero seven and i'm a little hesitant with that one. Oh seven bit but again it depends on the running back and who's available and then they'll pick again until one seventy two. And then they have the cardinals pick out one seventy seven so we saw dave gettleman and joe judge in that pairing get a lot of value out of their day three picks so i want them to just better the roster and if that happens to be a running back an excellent but can also kind of look at some of the running backs this year james robinson was wasn't even drafted. It was an undrafted guy. And some of these guys you can get from smaller schools. Who can kind of come in and make an impact as a running back that go on draft and you can also go in that direction. I think that's an option as well. Obviously a rolling the dice it. But i do believe that that that should be considered just because the giants do have some holes on this roster that they need to patch up i think a late round pick or a priority free agent. You'll made us that one of those one of those two relate round picks guy you've let you think might wind up being a free agent but stake your claim on him. I think that's the way the giants should go if there's value there however i have been just idly wondering lately if it might not be a higher priority inside the building than we might anticipate here on the outside what happens if say all of the top. Four receiving threats are taken in the in the first ten picks. The giants still absolutely need to address their offense. They need to yup. They cannot go in scoring a fraction of a point more than the jets next year. So maybe running back could wind up being a higher priority at maybe an maybe poking the bear just a little bit with this one. Maybe we should keep our eye on travis at t n You're doing more than poking. The bear did take christian mccaffrey high. He drafted saquon barkley second overall. He drafted curtis samuel. I believe in the second round. Yeah and those are all guys who are. We'll say explosive weapons yet. They do more than just run. The football and travis had he. Is that kind of guy. He is really at his best out on the edges. If you can get him the ball in space you know he's not a i formation lineup fullback and four yards in a cloud of dust. Type dude twitter would explode. chris. I mostly hey. Twitter exploding is a is a fantastic pastime. Just get yourself some popcorn and watch the takes an honestly chris if they were to go in that direction i wouldn't even think they should go running back. They should just go with someone like cadavers. Tony if they want to add somebody who's just incredibly explosive has quote unquote tyreek hill type of i've always gets thrown around but tony is somebody who does have that electrifying play making ability. And it's he's not dissimilar. I wouldn't say he's a same prospect. Curtis samuel by any means but it's a similar type of style that they both have if that's deemed cattleman. Doesn't cy kurdistan inr agency or stay right right. I mean that's definitely an interesting. Take chris. I'm going to say that i don't necessarily agree with it. I agree a little bit. More with with knicks. Approach here that there are some explosive receivers that can be used in a number of different ways that might be a little bit more beneficial than maybe going early with another running mac and the other thing too you keep hearing curtis samuel's name already As possible free agent signing just based on the gettleman connection based on the fact that the giants seed receivers so that ultimately would not shock me either as being an option for the giants to go in that direction. That's going to be it from us on this running back evaluation show we are gonna move onto receivers next week and then later in the week chris and i started off our draft frapp. We started talking about the corner group to make sure you tune into that that is going to be on thursday. Also please that. Subscribe and stay up-to-date on all of our podcasts head to big move you dot com for more news and analysis and we were talking about thursday folks.

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Episode #33- Bad Days and Dying Young (if your 7 foot)

Pros and Joes with Frank Kaminsky

58:09 min | 3 years ago

Episode #33- Bad Days and Dying Young (if your 7 foot)

"Scan down. Oh, everyone and welcome to another episode of pros and Joe's I am. You're awesome. Host Frank Kaminsky. Ready to lead another great podcast. Alex, flood standing by fricking warned and outbreak now and on my sanity, but I'm happy to be here with my friends. So let's let's let's fire away. Let's do it thirty doors. Well, if I'm going to be honest, I have no idea what my tagline is. My my standing by what am I? I'm just here guys. I'm happy to be here. We know you are. Okay. Good. Shooting long day out. So Alex shit out of the recording of this podcast. So this story better be worth it. It's it's a story of agony just like sometimes life is just very unfair to you. Okay. So I'll set the stage. So obviously working this new job for a couple of weeks, the company I worked for is really into script testing for your sales because they want you to they want everyone to kind of say the same general thing. But today's one of those days where you had to be exactly right on. So it's like tend to like eleven pages worth a shit where like you need to have every single where memorized every word every syllable the comma every pause selling point that that stuff so busy day for the whole week. And that's fine. I thought it was pretty prepared for today. So last night, I was in the middle of studying. I cited you know, what I'm gonna go for a little bit of run right now. So back sweatshirts, but my my sweat check at that. I use when I run was in my car. So I took the keys. In my car to open it up open the car. Take this water put it on. And I I was going for run. I live in old town in Chicago, and I was running to Lincoln park. So I got to complete north portion Lincoln park supply about three miles away from my apartment and Pat myself down at my holy shit. My fucking car cheese pocket and typically board. I know I don't go for a run of my keys L E leaving my apartment or like actually kind of like L hide them at a certain spot. But I just forgot. You hide your keys during your run in the city like bushes and shit. Let's go put it in like under the Bush. No one knows how you doing. K in there. And so right to do that because I was kind of a rush to get back. I I had a lot of energy real quick to get back to my studying. And oh, boy was this Pat mckee's down he's fell off so anywhere. Among the three miles at already run, Mike. He's good at anywhere. I think it was closer to the end. But I wasn't quite sure. So this is right around like eleven o'clock, and it's freezing out, by the way. So. So I. So I'm walking through frigging Lincoln park with a with my phone with a flashlight on trying to find my fricking keys. They were on the Pat, and there's a million leaves old a place who's impossible journey. It really really isn't sauce. And so I'm trying to find it. And I look it until like one in the mornings I'm supposed to be like studying right now. Instead, I'm in middle Lincoln park with a bunch of almost people trying to find my fricking keys, and which isn't very fun. So I I get home. I do little research. My key no joke cost eight hundred dollars. The key Licari cost if your keys your cars replaced Br Alexis ES three fifty is entered up. How much help costs thank grain. Entirely ical. Yeah. And boot by car parking spot, which at four o'clock today. We'll get out. So. Yeah. So it's either I find my key or I get told or I told myself to the car dealership and then pay eight hundred dollars. How are you going to tell yourself you hire a tow truck to tote with serious? All right. Hey, at least I didn't fucking keys. Down. What are we? The door. I don't wanna hear it a long day like, dick. So. I guarantee you this. You didn't have a fucking worse day than me. I can guarantee I'm probably didn't. But probably been born in the past three years. I when I compare apples. We're not gonna compare each other story. So you can just shut up. So, but I'm okay. So I set my lawn for and be studying this whole time. So I'm studying I'm looking for my keys on the path. And it just I'm thinking to myself like like God. Why do you hate me so much? I wrote my keys a decent on this. The first time ever fallen on my pocket, and like they find the most important day. I've had since I've worked at this new job. So and a lot of homework and studying the do for work and I set my alarm for five forty five in the morning. I wrote my bike up to the spot. Again, I spent three to four hours walking the path kicking leagues trying to find this won't you do for a thousand. That's essentially what I'm trying to find a thousand dollar Bill. In the morning. It's just like, I'm missing myself. God hates me so much. Kinda crazy because you you don't you don't know her it is until you find it, you know, flown. Behold expense, the whole morning instead of studying doing this, and I didn't find it. And then loans old we hired locksmith, isn't we're dealing comes in. And he didn't frigging do anything. Did you? What did you? You aren't. So he literally broke into his car like criminal style. Like put a bag narrow blew it up the car out, then it started beeping like crazy, and he tried like, you know, it's like a remote. He like, you know, other ones where you push the start. So it's like kinda like chips in there. You got like, you know, go to like the dash where I don't know exactly what he did. But you have to match up everything. So the key works for the car. And my dad before me afterwards that the second he broke into the car and the way that he did would not allow a key. Like be matched up because think about it. Someone could just go steal someone's car easily that way so like once like the alarm instead often everything like his whole mission was hopeless. So we get a lot. Yeah. So I was out there hours, which was really fun. And then I basically call my parents like three twenty I'm like, you're gonna have to get the tote. So my dad literally calls toll truck, I leave and he calls a tow truck to try to beat an actual tow truck to tow, the car or. Yeah. Like one was was on our team. The other one was on the city seamlessly was four hundred dollars more, maybe even more than that. Because they probably would've charged overnight. The and you know, a luxury fee and a service fee coda money. It comes out to buy three hundred five hundred fifty dollars round trip. Plus, they give you a ticket. I don't understand how towing and like like making it that much is legal, it's extortion. And then the other other shitty part about getting towed in Chicago is they take your car under like lower Wacker. We probably wanted to shittiest areas of should not hard to get to yell over camp signed it, you gotta like walk after way off. I could understand if it was like one hundred twenty dollars, right? Like, that's a pretty big punishment. It's like all right. You couldn't park. There you paid the price had to pay the thirty dollars. Uber to get here. We made it inconvenient as hell. You know? Here's a car back hundred twenty dollars. No, they make it like four hundred dollars. It's like insane. And somehow it's legal, and they also like steal your shift more than an average car payment per month for. And then they charge you overnight fees like sake, it's totally like sixty m to tow truck like close it seven towed once in my life and took the car in for Ovid, literally fifty minutes away in like when I was like, it was hell they're like that you could even see the guy the glass was so dirty. He didn't get what you had to say. And I was thinking what if you're like a seventeen year old girl, and you have to take transportation here like like after sundown, and you're just like in this dangerous area with these scumbags. Like, really, that's legal like our government and city allows that to happen where they steal your car and your money put you in harm's way. And then just say, okay, if you can't pay for it would keep charging you overnight fees, even though it's not a convenience whatsoever. It's ridiculous. It is it really is. It makes call. And like the parked in this. No, it's not. No, it's not it is not capitalism. How is it? Not go try to open up a tote about you. If you wanted to go up, a tow company. I bet you couldn't we you need to have government support. But it's the Campbell. They get their pieces as well. Like don't be don't be ignorant. They'll take the shit out of you too. It's like, oh, yeah. You broke the law. It's like, okay. The government's probably in cahoots like every tow truck every person new toe. We get an extra fifty dollars. And we won't shut down. We talked about it earlier podcast. I think unless didn't make the cut you're talking about, you know, tickets in the city not like they sold them meters Chicago. Yeah. To like to like some guy Dubai. So I like your Reagan over a billion dollars for for billion dollars, of course of a hundred years and act like seventeen years that pay it off. So. It was I think it was less than seventeen years the way it was less than one fifth of the time. It takes obviously mayor Daley got a handful of cash to cut that deal. Today. It's blood, family, tow, truck, one city tow truck zero. Yeah, we did windows guys win it. Win it fucks. Here's a question. Here's a question. Alex. Did you actually win anything? No. I just I one blooming less money. Seven hundred dollars or eight hundred bucks to replace my key. That is the most shocking part of his ordination. It's the same thing capitalism. I have I'm I'm at the women much as only they can replace my key officially, obviously, lack the locksmith divert and do it. So it's like, oh, well, if you lose your king, you have to in order to have your car back you need to reprogram it. We're the only ones that can do that. We're going to charge you eight hundred dollars regular keys, not become not enough. When people got to fucking lazy days went to push something instead of Ternate invaded so hard just put Qian ignition and twisted. Yeah. Some curious how did it then? I mean, I'm assuming work wasn't the best. Is long day. So I have exhausted. I got two hours of sleep my eyes. I had to do it like going front of a panel of people. And most of my don't even know. And I is I looked like shit. I went up I did find I didn't do like amazing. They kinda grilled me a little bit. But after they're done grilling, the I kind of like, I kinda wild them with some of some of the things that I said, so I think any end it was pretty good. It's like I mean, it's put it this way. I would absolutely crushed it. If this didn't happen because I I wouldn't have been tired be. I would more longer study instead of walking around and this driving crazy itchy is still there. Linkin park right now, I love gang. And it's I can't find it. Listen of you finding that key is odds of UNBC win in the NCAA. Happen. Don't waste another second some home tried to sell it for crack rock by. Now. Here's. Very it's a very bold assumption. Going. It couldn't have happened during a worst time of the year. Because a it's really cold out be penalty. It's no, here's a thing. If it's through the summer, it would have been easier to find because there's no leaves on the ground, and it's warm out. If it's a winter like, right? What's deep winter? At least there's probably snow on the grounds. It'd be easier to see. But here's the center so many lease Abe. It's freaking cold. It couldn't have happened at a worst. Now looking looking for something size of a box of take tax remodel radius. It does not matter which time of year. It was you were not keys either way better shot. I had a pretty good idea. Like there are certain time. I run where I really push myself. And I mean like I was booking. Sprinting really hard. I figured that. Those are the portions that had a better chance of my key falling out. But then I also belong Walker. Like, what am I certain until this what I think that path over there? So that would shake check over there. Because now, we don't even know exactly you read. On the less and less. But what would you? Here's a question. What would you do for thousand dollars dollars? But I have to like a different it's a thousand books, but then it's also that thousand bucks is directly attached, so basically livelihood 'cause need your car. Go at work until everywhere. So comes during thatt's, I don't know this is this is the idea man in may. But I wasn't there like an answer. This like, you know, find case. Now, here's the technology to find it. But here's like when I bought my car new only had one key and the person at the dealership said that the key cost around two hundred dollars. So I knew it was least two hundred dollars and if but I walked running without dollar Bill in my pocket, essentially, that's what I was doing that. 'cause given all the fees and shit that I had the pay and coach shit. I I definitely would never run with keys, and or I would've fought in one of those, you know, those locator things so point being today sucked. Boston agree. And then I did. Okay. And my like, I said I meeting that great that they're gonna grill. We no matter what. But it is what it is. But yeah, that was my day really sucked. I just got a text message from number that, I don't know. But it must be someone. I know. And it says I'm in a club. I'm league at my gym. And he said the Texas talked to Caesar who runs the league he said you can't be on our team. Unfortunately, said our team would be too good with you on it. Humble brag city population Dylan, so I guess I can't play in my men's league. That's kind of bullshit. Isn't it? Whitman this. He's been club. The bigger thing. I took away from that is isn't says Palaccio texts when you get attached from a number. You have absolutely no idea who they are. But they seem to know you pretty well, or at least this quite often. Or or doing spend. He doesn't like you want you off your team, and he's using the food so good. They doesn't want that. They want me on their team because they asked me. No, no, spins on again, they thought they wanted to and they talk and yet they realize they want you again, nobody likes. Again. No one gives a shit about your recklessly. Spend don't again, I'm going to cry. I'm officially spun. Yeah. We'll speaking of basketball things tell me guys saw this video this kid getting a vote in the face after. Ole literally watching it on a loop right now. I was ridiculous. This is absolutely ridiculous. I wanna know what happened that led up to this. Oh, jeez. I bet you know, I saw what happened. He was really mad because he didn't get a foul. Call the possession before that. Knock all of teeth out. She's yeah. We I'm reading this kid got banned from the University School and banned from the campus. As a result of what he did kick them kicked off the team expelled him from the school and banned from the campus that we call it the works in the business. I got a fair punishment, just Google basketball elbow. Is honestly it. Absolutely. It's always the first thing you too. It's all Jesus. I know where that gets teammates work. Brawl start after I think if I was in the stands, I would have. And I knew that kid, and I was like him. I would have liked ran from the stands at attack. This kid's got great form on his shot though. Thing. I thought looked appeared wondering the free throw he should go to the US. That was a great elbow elbows. Get your late gives you good well-paying UFC. There was a foul. Call dylan. Oh was there. Yeah. The refereed here in the bottom right makes the foul call. I bet that kid is on Scott van pelt within three days. Anymore? If he talked I love van pelt. You can listen to Scott van pelt talk. I would love to hear his breakdown of that. And like his thought process going into his away. He breaks down is great. Video has so many different moving elements to it like there's just a random girl in a chair sitting underneath the basket. Like, it's fifty state the hell is Fitchburg state deep three somewhere. I don't. I don't know we never played them. Wait. So this this this is a decrease tool. Oh, yeah. Three best dollar. Talk about like just really taking it too far in just messing bad. Like, this is that's bad bed bay. The NBA is bad for the brand. The kid cares. Clearly cares about that. The only reason why you do that. To find the right clothes, in my opinion. Someone's wondering. What's the conversation like with your teammates after the game? Oh, yeah. Man. You were definitely right to do that. Yeah. Here's the thing about probably see it until like that video. If you weren't watching most people probably watching the ball. Yeah. Yeah. Video is probably is the worst thing that ever happened. I could ever I wonder lady on things. Think about it. Now. If if that'd video didn't exist at betcha that kids on expelled from school. Probably probably very against it. What do you think? I haven't opinion idiot. I have an opinion. I bet you it's it's not like it's not an opinion saying what he's doing is right or wrong. But I figured this. Would he's doing is like it's not like I've read a lot of stuff today. It's like the equivalent of what college football players are doing. It's. Him basically sitting out of bull games, but he's just sitting out of a season. So that he guarantees himself. A lot more money down the road cured. He knows she'll be walked out on fourteen million dollars. I. Trust me, understand it. But he's going to get paid more than that. No. He said, yes, he is. I don't know. But he's going to get paid more than that. This is Dylan isn't worth anything doing. Let's say his contract with nothing except guarantee. Let's let's say he plays the season. He gets on his three hundred touch of the season, tears ACL. Guess what is worth is zero still pretty either team would still signed him next to? Not to wear what he's worth. And then he came back and won MVP. That's not to say the same thing. It's not the same situation. Also on don't do this. If your backup is James, Connor. Yeah. Do. I wouldn't ever ever ever sit out an entire season knowing fourteen and a half million dollars was waiting for me. Never do that in his pocket. Right. What are you talking about? Frank. Reconcile literally before I started talking says, this is not my opinion on what he's doing is, right or wrong. I'm just simply saying what it is still Bill Clinton here. Just taking the middle road. So John I guarantee you he just not get that money back usually. That's great. Yeah. Gets forty plus million guaranteed. All right forty. Yes. Todd gurley. Twenty-five drug really got forty five million guaranteed in sixty million over four years but wrong, he's not he's not Todd Gurley on he'll get forty million. He will I'll gonna Lima Frank. I think there's a team out there. That's that's dumb enough in as the cap space to pay him like. Here's how you don't see. How many teams are there in the NFL thirty two only one of them has to say he's worth it? It's only one team has to say leaving on Bellas worth this much money and. Are still in the NFL. And there are still stupid. There's a John James Connor just proved that he's a system guy. They he did he proved it, okay? Still doesn't make him worth any less money. Do it backup is Thomas Rawles? Not James Connor. There's a big difference later on Bill and Todd Gurley Todd Gurley. Got that big contract sixty million. He's his skills are visibly. Just more parent than lady on belts, so good. I'm to come on curly. A Lewis also running behind insane ofensive line has so many weapons on his offense. And has an amazing defense keeps. Keeps keeps him. Clinch? Okay. He's about here's the thing. Like, okay. I would would've showed up this year. Like got got up high and touch. Once you just I'm touching fearing times this year. The second time I've done playing. You're twisting my ankle every single week on purpose. But I will have someone twist my ankle and what? Like, and here's a huge. I was so stubborn with this whole thing that he just didn't like them to any sort of middle ground Dame. Being I want limited touches, I want to be part of the organization just he was prick the hallway through I gotta. I gotta I saw Ben Ben Rothlisberger. Was I interviewed today. And he said he likes anthem attacks like two yesterday like ours for the deadlines day. Do you plan on coming back? Like, what do you think in blah, blah? And he's like we didn't come back. So now, we don't talk about anymore. Like did he answer your tax like, no? Yeah. He's the rest of the Steelers locker and just took all. Shit sucks because I love Levy on bell. I love watching them. We know everyone in this. Podcast Levy on Bill. Is my second favorite player in the NFL behind Kurt football cousins. You always said was you? We can go on that list. Top ten but you kind of put towards the bottom of the top. But he's in. He's in there with Bill is like understand because the shelf life for running backs is probably shortage in the NFL of all skill position players, but it's just like. I go in fucking I go eight to five for a day job, and you're just sitting on a fucking boat Miami letting fourteen and a half million dollars pass you by do like what the fuck. It shows a couple of shows it shows a he doesn't communicate at all with the team be. He's clearly just about money. He just wants the money. Every was a lot of NFL players. It's a lot of it. But here's a a lot of sports players. Clearly a lot of players that are just about the money. Can you think of one player ever they just sat season just for money any player in any sport? He's the first one the one that one. That one guy from the Seahawks planned on sitting out the whole season. But then he Thomas. No, no, no, no, no, no, not Earl Thomas Kam chancellor, he planned out the whole season. He came back. Didn't get paid. Earl Thomas wanted to. He was also far passes prime. Earl Thomas is not past his prime. And now he's gonna lose out on fun of money. It was pretty close. Yeah. But he's still one of the best safeties and football. Still take Thomas on a bare stone Earl Earl Thomas, the better player that lady on bell when it comes to public. Okay in. No now, what's what's going to happen with him? He's not gonna get near the amount of money. He was going to say, well, he's not doing his track. Record sizes mazing broke. He's off he's off. He he considered retiring after his last season injury season ending because he's he's sick a football. He said he's sick of the Seahawks football football like sucks. Yeah. He was the guy who went to the Dallas locker room after the game which aid for me. Give me the fuck out of here. Football. I was thinking of Seattle. Yeah. I agree that football footballers like so brutal. Like, it's it's tough to just keep doing it. You know, it's not like all your taking hits. You're getting like, here's the here's the we'll never know until you hear about it. From Levy on Bill what his plan was in. What is thought process was you can only speculate? You can't really fully understand what's going on. It's like the free. If you're not in the middle of you can't understand what he's thinking. What he's what he wants what's important to him. Maybe a hundred percent healthy and signing guaranteed deal. Next year is more important than playing this season for a franchise tag in. No long-term dealing Joey real quick. Here's the thing. He can tell us whenever he wants. He's said nothing. He's probably waiting to the seasons. Older. What wage why didn't he have to wage? Why it now what's the point? I can tell you what. What are we talking about right now? Because because Alex if he says this in the middle of the offseason, people can't just sit around and speculate as to what like is do you agree with this? He he's the only one there knows he has all the control in this situation. He can control the narrative at any point. He wants to control it. Now, you know, all the control to disagree with you James has a lot to do with that narrative. And clearly he showed him that he's replaceable like laid back and being equally his own team. Then Alex, I'm saying he probably doesn't give shit like. Clearly doesn't care. I'm telling you. He cares. If Dame's Connor was the issue came back this season. So here's a question for Frank is J James trash lady on bell comeback. No. He's not coming back to the way. It would have come back. Do you can't you can't say they want to come back and be an equal. You can't say he would wait, you absolutely cannot say you cannot say that I can make a prediction. My best estimate is that if he would have been terrible on come back and been the savior. And then he would have found at the end of the season and got paid a lot more money. Unfortunately. No, no cares. Nobody. Well, there's a reason why you didn't say he was out for the whole season less paid him originally. Exactly. That's why he didn't say anything at all. Yeah. Is you either get hurt or for Jabber starts talking? And he didn't wanna come back. He wants to be paid Todd Gurley money, which means you're the best in the NFL second best Alvin Kamara but he wanted. Fascinated fell paid as the best when he goes back, and he's an equal James Connor ruins is value. So the question for you guys talk really is going to get paid fifteen million dollars a year who's the second highest paid running back. Hi. Devante Freeman in how much do you make? There wasn't like forty mil. Total for the contract or something much. How much you make a year the over the course of the country eight million eight million, there's a seven million dollar difference. And you're gonna tell me that somewhere in that Saturday billion dollar difference with guaranteed over a long term deal on Bell's not worth it. Ask you. This is early seven million dollars a year better. Freeman Donald think. So are you shitting me then devante Freeman? Yes. Levi on. Yeah. Devante fro. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. But leaving. As much you want wanna hear it? I think that Freeman and Ballard pretty comparable. They're not. They're not. I bet you feel hurt. We're talking about this issues only injury year yet that you gotta help games here or there, but getting into spent for joint saying fucking still been one of the best running backs in the NFL when he plays. So so was Freeman I'm telling you you fell Freeman money it won't get girly money. I mean about he'll get somewhere in between with guaranteed money over. The course. Forty million dollars guaranteed as Hella. What what what are you doing dollars guaranteed is a hell of a lot more than fourteen? And if you know what you worth go get what you're worth. Dawn saying you sound like rocky in rocky Balboa. There's a thing. I don't I think what he thinks. He's worth hop. What he is. And we don't need to be done worse that this worse death speaker, and so forth and tired and point is that. Leaving is so much better than devante Freeman. It's not even funny. Well, be that as it may. And I think he's way better. Wow. Way. Stats stats, y you. Okay. Okay. We get it. All right. We get it. One of one of them gets the ball three times. More than other one though. Yeah. More opportunities. None of plays. What do you mean? In twenty fourteen. Okay. So we're going back to what like bells like knowing twenty sixteen Levy on bell had two hundred sixty one touches for twelve hundred yards. Devante Freeman 's best season is two hundred sixty five touches for one thousand fifty six yards. How many receptions, devante Freeman had seventy three for five seventy eight in that year. Lady on bell had seventy five four six sixteen. Okay. What year? Last year leaving on Bill way more touches last year. Yeah, that's probably why he doesn't. That's probably why he didn't wanna play. Why didn't you stipulate? I feel could be what it just worked with a little bit. And be like he told him what he wanted in. They said knowing what did he want the highest? He wanted along. You wanted a long-term deal with a certain amount of guaranteed money. He wanted what he was what he thought he was worth. A here's the thing Steelers right by not paying him not to get James for cheap for the next couple of years. What I'm saying? That's what I've seen. So Levy on bell. That's the opposite. Yeah. That's what you guys aren't seeing about this whole situation. Yeah. The Steelers new the hedge Connor not like the, oh, we have this this guy walking around. Then you're gonna large sample. They never saw him in a large sample, but they drafted him in what the second round in the draft. They knew or third. Yeah. I mean, his third Kamera was drafted in the third round. So running back. Pub on his podcast. He's just as good Alvin Kamara one. So what what my point is. Should I for a second? No. Hold on. Hold on. I got it. I got it. I got it came back to. So Levy on bell knows what he's worth. The Steelers the Steelers know what they have in those two can't meet on terms to say, hey, you're going to be part of our future. Selenium Bill knows what he's worth. So why is he gonna put himself through the ringer and potentially get hurt in a situation that doesn't benefit him in? Why are the Steelers going to him if they know they can be just as good without him? He could come back and flip carries with Connor and made fourteen million dollars. But I understand that. But it's dual Hertz value. Why? It does because you're splitting reps with someone. It hurts his value. So that's a chimera and Mark Ingram showing splitting very very unique situation. They have been a unique situation. I'm not saying cook his chimeras a change of pace back and he's not an every down back. He can be committed as an every down back. Who'd he talk. Hugh, I understand pointed their offense worked so much better. When they have Kamara and Ingram on the field. James Connor on the field and won a couple. But. But that's. They're not gonna win suitable. Andy could've talked you said something. Yeah. There's a lot of could have but he's protecting himself. He's not think that's blatantly obvious. He's an eagle. You might be very well might be and that's fine, but his protecting. We never wanna have bell on this show. We'd love to have absolutely. I love to have Levi on on the show. I love Levy on Bill. Still love lady on bell. I still try trading for lady unveil this season. Although I knew this was going to happen. I didn't think it was gonna sit out the whole year on a neither I had a feeling he was gonna out until this week. But I didn't think he would sit out the whole season. Pain that have absolutely no term going on whatsoever. Right now. The Golden State Warriors seem fine all all seem one on green thinks about lady though. The only thing the warriors. Majestic think they're at the same time. That's great point. Does Michigan state people have Hugo? Yeah. Well, it is really kind of like Frank your point is exactly spot on. There's no team in the league right now that oh Alex hold on hold on back to the point about leaving bell. That's that's where that's where that's where he got twelve hundred rushing yards the same which was more than devante Freeman best season. He only played in twelve games. I'm not saying he's not good. I'm saying on the Steelers offense with maybe the greatest wide receiver of all kinds and all not Jerry Rice is the greatest receiver of all time. But Tokyo Brown is comparable. He's amazing. Better. I wanna throw something out there so manager Jim he texted me a week and a half ago saying, hey guy offered me Mark Ingram and defined digs for lady on bell. And does Bryant I said you click except right now. So he did and how dumb is that person. Taken to the fucking house. Like Tyler like, stop don't even back. Click except right now on everything he gets is stupid. Any h trait happened that people have a some weird love lady, I'm bell. Same nearly I'm not joking two weeks ago. He offered Julio Jones delayed, they'll straight up in one way leaks. And of course, they had bell accepted. It. Kula Jones for nothing. The number sexual perceiver right now he has like touchdowns. He's put out maybe q. Now Julio found the end zone. He got some Medicaid, no longer lurching indeed doors that you were leading into the Draymond Rian drama. As the one like non basketball guy in the podcast. I thought I'd fucking to you guys up to have added here poise. But yeah. Well, I Well, I I watched the thing and to me on Draymond should never even ever ever try to do that. But like, I kinda get the point. Katie is definitely not going to resign ROY well here. Well, here's the. Yeah. That's the only way. You know, the drama that went into it after that like apparently Draymond was bringing up the Katie is making this year all about himself as just gonna leave the many ways. Yeah, I heard there was a bunch of went on the locker room. They're all calling him like a bitch and stuff like that. He brought up that the fact that he's gonna leave. What you probably will. Thank god. That'd be amazing. The NBA. It's one of my happiest basketball fan like days of my life. When that team was broken up here. Here's the thing. I still want someone to beat them imposs-. It really impossible. Fortunately, Houston was about to do it last year. But Chris Paul was like, nah. He got. That's not true. Was your earlier point was spot on? No, one can beat the orders, but themselves people that can be warriors is injuries in the warriors to end bookie hasn't even played yet. He's just sit on the bench weight and getting healthy like the food. Do the vendors of the NBA that team is just ridiculous. And there's no fan of that. I can see that was a Stanley trip your wife rest in peace rest in peace. Correct. I don't know bringing that up door. He was an entourage. Anyway, it's a second recognize sash gray was, but then he had recognized then he was. Hi on coke. On a downturn. Like, we really say that. Here's the thing. Here's a thing here. The thing failing was very old liberty was he's ninety fast. His all this. How like? He died of old age Rangers. That's monja. That's like that's classic old age singer like your body. Just hold waters gonna work anymore. Trying to ninety five guys. Twitter's ever made at that old? I ain't gonna do it. Hey. Look up the oldest age that someone above seven foot is ever lived the great question asked on because Frank I'm gonna I'm just going to ballpark. You a death cool like at seventy two. Eighty one PD one. No, wait. The whole of Fantine. I bet you like ninety one guy crack also saying Frank stat at seventy two. Not really no question. Look up also look up who's the was the first person at seven foot recorded in the history of mankind. It's probably a while ago is great. Hundred thing is there some footers sixteen hundreds they would have been God's back then like people wouldn't even have known what to do with deputy taking an accident down. They would have been like that. What is it your cranium basketball player? That's fine. Bed bug Babur. God of it. Whatever. That's that's seven footers look like like Frank this, my friend, cure, seven footer. Did you say seven be all that genetic anomaly just walking around like stretch Armstrong? All right. So here's what I got. Here's what I got. The the of like the tall recorded people. Like, the oldest. I believe on here is seventy nine. Andre the giant was forty six Don Koehler who was eight feet tall while who is eight feet tall with fifty six. Sandy L. Seventy seven was fifty three L Tony seven four fifty Johan Petersson seven fifty seventy Tex Madsen seven six fifty one lock Martin seven seven forty-three, Richard Kiel seven one seventy max Palmer seven feet fifty seven. So basically when you get Wilt Chamberlain with fifty three basically when you get over seven three you're gonna live 'til fifty two max nerdy. George Michael, George, Mike and was six ten back in the day. And he lived to be eighty one. Here's here's what I'm gonna my dad is my dad's six nine he's almost sixty four and he still plays basketball the time like in the gay actual games seems like every eight she go up five years knocked off your life. I was just thinking. I really I really I really don't want to have this discussion right now because I'm living free. Humanize John not going to be the first one dead of natural causes are not in our for injury. I'll tell you that much maybe take natural causes back. How about unnatural causes won't be one? Unfortunately, doors my pick to click. Dips bit. So here's here's good news for you, though. You'll get the watch like there's a lot of seven footers that played in the NBA probably again the eighties nineties early two thousands. You'll get a good road map when they start to go like like now, it's like it's almost like you have a little of data spot for you. So it's like it out. That's who's the guy that was in Space Jam. I can't remember what Bradley? Yeah. Sure. Bradley like, you you can gauge yourself when he goes making planet out by like ten year increments. You can be like all right? The libbers gonna fail at sixty. But still got five more. Let's. Exactly look up look up what the average age of needing Viagra for the missed. I. I just hope is it third only hope is that my kids aren't complete Mongoloids. But like, so they're not uglier shit. This is all I want I want I want our perfectly. They don't look like me. They look like they're going to be beautiful tall. Crazy. Good family mother. And I hope they're not short like I just hope like that would be such a depleting thing for me as well. My dad was Mike. I was just like six one. I'd be so pissed like sold once fine some anomaly or taller than your kids. What would you do? I don't know what kind of questions that. I've never going to happen because you are hobbit. I'm advertise. My friends. There's nothing wrong with. A habit. I guess I'm far above average that like I'm off the charts. Here's the thing. That's going to bring you back down to size, buddy. When you get to like, seventy your balls are going to be hanging. Do things you see on strung dragging on the highway. Do you have any? How much knees are going to hurt where chance go pretty good idea? Yeah. Life, really? Suck. Okay. I get it understand better start. Join your youth. Frank fifty on. It's going to be a nightmare. Listen, I disagree. Some sort of everything you're gonna show up go. Where's the sun? I need to sweat. My dad does do that. And then what's? Done with the sauna sweat. Where's the grey goose and beer? Good, man. He's a good, man. Genetic passed down to me. Got a question for all you guys know shoot away door. Do the names. Jennifer, candy, crystal. Nikki mean, anything, you know, porn stars slow stone, very close. They are the four sex styles opened up in the first sex brothel in in Helsinki Finland. Those were think now I did not know about go here. We're just gonna we're gonna we're gonna start this one ended at the same time. If you go to those sex brothels that have sex with robots loser. So I should cancel my quite. Yes. Yes. The Frank keep any of those under your sink. Yeah. They're goodness. There's a good chance I go to a restaurant next summer. It's not like decks rope this before after you get your whole body wax refinishing less than your other league. By the way, miserable month Alex amid taking it too far. We might wish it to like what is it the six twelve like twenty eight hundred twenty four channels. Yeah. To be it shouldn't have to be where like you legitimately fear the punishment. I guess fantasy football not that serious. You shouldn't have to legitimately like, no, you're about to be in so much pain. The thing fantasy football players didn't perform the thing that unique to Alexis scenario is he is incredibly. I know. Like hell. Like ingrown hairs and rashes and shortage. I trim myself yesterday, and I still have an incredible amount of hair on my body filled up the whole damn bathtub for Christ. Just like fat. You should see my back right now. It's ridiculous like a woolly mammoth, dude. And it's just yet offer you with hot wax. We put a contingency on it. I probably not gonna have to do that. I'll probably have to do the the six twelve eighteen twenty four challenge which is. But quite disgusting. So beer in donuts. It's beer doughnuts. Running jerking off in miles and who's gonna who's gonna make sure you're wack it. It's the honor code gotta wear Fitbit. We'll check his steps. Got it in a heart rate monitor. Yeah. Exactly, we always look at my phone. You'll get myself yet. Just because you look doesn't mean you touch now. Yeah. Or have to have like this is gonna disgusting like six. Paper towels line. The episode. No. That God immersed. I'm sorry. But that's just what changed respect so listeners. So obviously have you ever talk before. I remember on the finality the one we did already. We've talked about what the punishment is. I just wanted to listeners jenner's new so. Issur crank may two three yesterday. I know I know. Back you ball break. You say about that. Right. Negative ghostwriter the patterns. Let's make the news right now. News. Breaking news. Don't make the news negative goes. Right or the pattern is full. People that are listening. That's shows were straight there. Right. We're learning. Trae learn could easily say something right now that would make the news, but she chose not to because your guy so congratulations also ramifications negative goes, right or the pattern. Perfect. That from. From Tom Cruise. Dylan. I think the most random move. Hell of a movie. Fours coming out. Yeah. It was. Very average. It looked like the squirrel is a much more important character. Really? So. What? I wanna give a shout out. Okay. During the shots. Yeah. I wanna give shot bell still looking guy guy Levy on bell. You guy you not neck you, very guy. Shut. Our no one knows what that means. Okay. This is going to be random. But I'm gonna give shout to Tabitha the waitress that I met over the weekend at dinner. I've never been compared to any actors ever in my entire life for this one's all. It's unexcused. Look like the name is Sam guy. All right. Thanks, john. She compared to this guy named Patrick from season five of shits creek, which is apparently networks. And he some guys gave with friends so. Not what we were hoping for. But I appreciate you know, the shout out there. I will definitely new said, Patrick, I thought you're gonna say star no killing. I don't start checking. Okay. I'll give shoutout to what am I customs yesterday or potentially suit because there's gold willy gave me an appointment guy. Had no fucking chip in his mouth. But he wanted windows. Gender to intimating you work at this job like the amount of people that you see like just without cheaper just missing their king. Like what what what are you doing? You don't have money for teeth liking one of my windows. Okay. That's fine. But yet hadn't even show a willy and willy really came baked permit. He said the appointment, and then demo and it didn't buy it because the money, but. That's what he told our salesman. So yeah. Like the shot the Willie for demoing because that's what gets me paid. So I like it. You really? Why you need to say anything. No, we're good. We're get her. Where we go for the listeners out there and anyone who? Back in the day got shirts. Now, they're on step. We do store. Yeah. I'm literally wearing what right now we've got some searching for a wife shirt Dylan. I have been spit ball with the idea. We're gonna make it unisex and searching for a husband, obviously because. No, no. It's where. Yeah. Or something like that where we're all. We should want to be searching for a mate. I like that. And we gotta know Jim shirt. So I'm trying to get back into shape in fucking sucks working out again. So yeah, if you don't wanna go to the gym, everybody shirts, come to Chicago. I'll put you the grinder baby. Dylan, I literally cannot move my upper body right now. Go by the thank you everybody for listening to this episode. I really appreciate every single one of you door kit feel as tits thrill good role of us are roast. What is the lesson? We asked people to follow us on Twitter and Instagram, but Twitter, Instagram, all that deleted. For like ten centers meeting. Rid of bots. Just go get ten thousand dollars. I don't know if that's true. Because I have a lot of like Ukrainian porn-star follow me on Instagram lately. I'm not going. I'm definitely taking the foul history. They can tell well they've got. They've got they've got a shot of getting you on Skype door. Yet. They do that. They just trying to dollars an hour on their everybody for listening to this episode. It's been a it's been a pleasure. Thank you. Everybody. Franks go to movie, I gotta go to bed so everybody. I gotta go ice my kids. I love you. Thank you willy willy anything else. Alex. No. Good. You. Canada. I don't know. The. Cozy.

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RB vs. WR Debates; Training Camp Standouts (08/25 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Fantasy Football Today Podcast

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RB vs. WR Debates; Training Camp Standouts (08/25 Fantasy Football Podcast)

"This is fantasy football today from CBS. Sports. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Here's some combination of Adam Dave Jamie Heath Ben. All. Right everybody. Welcome to another edition of Fantasy football today it's been a busy afternoon for everybody other than me Dave Heath and Ben just wrapped up a salary cap drafts I was not invited. Okay. Well, maybe I'll greater teams or something like that. Maybe I'll be like heath and say, Oh, I love your not it's great b-minus. Be. Well, you still like my team deserves a and the other we're GONNA talk about. Today you're so entitled. To be there were so many times in my life I was thrilled to see B or B minus show up in my life, and now you get a B. minus and people were like man. Now I would have my if I would have my parents call you up and be like, Hey, my son deserved a that's what I would do Davor here is I had of the salary cap draft go. was very strange. It was very strange I think there were all the elite players not all but. The I guess it should be like the top maybe. Glenn let me start her the top two running backs and maybe four running backs overall went for way more than I thought they were GonNa go for McCaffrey went for forty four percent of the budget. And there's fifteen roster spots. So money was flying early and then I'd say there were a couple of steals but by and large, it was a pretty decent representation of. Excuse me of what you get out of a salary cap draft. Okay. I agree with everything you said except for the decent representation and other than the fact that maybe some some drafts look that way but I thought that was pretty Wild to be honest how how much bending went off early like it it became clear to me early that I didn't even want to get guys for you know a couple a couple of dollars under under the budget that I had set for them because there is going to be some huge discounts and there ended up being quite a few dave shirt have like coconut brassiere on it underneath the two words no, those are this their fists. Yes. Are You I'm wearing a man, Bro. Well, the shirt has row a Mansyur I can't believe I just botched that. CAIN separated two words, and the words are over your your picks and there are things generous. Thank you Kinda like. Coconuts. Oh. No Yeah He. Is Up here. please. Does. To get a lot of rankings disputes but we're going. Outside of the positions in terms of rankings, disputes, running backs versus wide receivers, running backs versus quarterbacks. Wide. Receivers versus quarterbacks. May. Have a tight end in there. It's going to get wild but Clyde, Edward Ziegler versus Michael Thomas Miles, sanders versus Julio Jones Aaron Jones versus. A wide receiver and running back. Leonard. Fournette versus DJ charge that kind of stuff we'll get into that some news items to get to. There's a lot today. Let's start with this dirt cut or the all offensive coordinator for the Atlanta. Falcons said Todd Gurley is GonNa get Minimum Fifteen touches a game on the high end. It could be twenty five touches a game I believe last year devante Freeman for. The. season was about seventeen and a half touches per game. A lot of them were catches toward the end of the year. After he came back from injury, you look at Devante Freeman game I got a ton of carries and he was more like nineteen and a half touches per game but I don't know fifteen minimum per game for up to twenty-five at that'd be a lot but it seems like. A really really helpful like he's either going to lead a committee or a feature back, you can rank him anywhere from rb twelve thirty and that would be appropriate. I think, I, think it's a little rosier than that. He'd like two hundred and forty touches total touches for a team that through like one hundred and ten passes to their running backs last year or something. So if he got forty catches and you're looking at two hundred carries for the season over sixteen game season, that's a tiny minimum workload. Well made them his obviously more than, but that's part of the range, and then the other end of the range is that he might touch the ball more than anyone named Christian McCaffrey. One of those two. One of the things? I. Love about our I don't know if we can really read through this at all A. Feels like coaches don't know how many touches there are to go around sometimes 'cause they'll say like I want my back to be a thirty touchback or they'll say multiple backs are both going to get fifteen touches per game and you can't really average thirty running back touches per game. But this one setting the bar at fifteen. Almost feels like I I'm GonNa lean towards the fifteen side. I usually think they're over overestimating what the numbers on these remember the table on Austin thing where they were going to get him like in Carey's and six to eight targets per game was fun. girly had nine games last year with at least fifteen touches. So fifteen to twenty five per game. That's going to be an improvement for sure I'm sure cutters is trying to say, Hey, look when when the game flow is going our way we've got you know some clock to grind down in the fourth quarter. Yeah. You could see girly get a lot of carries and he did have a twenty-five carry game last year it was against Chicago any AD Thirty three total yards in the game and a touchdown. So that would be really really great. For Todd Gurley had what? Two hundred fifty four touches last year to twenty three on the ground thirty one through the air. So that's two fifty four. Yes. So he averaged sixteen point, nine touches per game well within the range just pretty similar to what Devante Freeman average last year so. Todd Gurley right now is thirty first overall rb fifteen on fantasy prose. That's ahead of Chris. Carson. After. Mile Sanders Austin Jones but it's pretty much like we're gonNA take James Connor over him over girly right the up and Carson as well. For now yes. mclovin. Gordon new. Dave? I've taken Melvin over girly for right now then. I want none of them. One of them today. I want a girly over Melvin for sure. Absolutely. Okay. All Right Second News Item Daryl Henderson is questionable for week one. They're hopeful hopeful for him I. Obviously injury report yet, but let's just say his status question. This is what the L. A. Time said about Daryl Henderson in the rams running backs because Malcolm Brown experience entrust from coaches. The sixty year pro is regarded as the front runner to start against cowboys but the rams drafted acres in the second round with an eye toward him becoming the dominant back and with Brown in the final year of his contract Henderson could play a major role, this season and beyond. Okay. Thank you. For being very. Cutter say that exactly. Is Bad All right. So obviously Daryl Henderson, he might not be ready for week while we might not see him again before week one. Does this boost camakers draft value. Yes. Does that boost all three of them I'm reading this? Are they all starting. At some point, they're all going to be huge factors. The biggest boost is for Malcolm Brown, and this is something we've talked about all off season that it could happen and I. I, think he's not that far from the Adrian Peterson category right now. Fifteen to twenty five touches each every single. I. Fifteen to twenty five touches. Malcolm. Brown weedon whoo. Wow I mean, we we know that Henderson is hurt and they've said like they think it'll be ready for week one well that means he's probably gonNA. Miss the majority of the rest of the offseason program as limited as it has been, it would not be surprising to see Brown be the clearly backing me one over the rookie camakers and that Henderson has to kind of get get his hamstring right before he really contributes. The I just went like, when are you pulling the trigger on camakers? Z.. Ahead of let's say Devon Single terrier Mark Ingram. Henderson injury I moved him ahead of those Kansas Yeah I could see that too. I think I've got them right behind single terry. You know what this news makes me WanNa do it makes me WANNA draft rams pass catchers because now I'm starting to really get the feeling that this run game could get messy and not be nearly as effective on a tweet basis as it once was. Okay and final question. Would you draft Arrow Henderson her Malcolm Brown? Henderson Henderson still, but the non Pr, it's really really close for me. I moved Henderson all down to one spot ahead of Malcolm. In. A little different. They just never throw the ball to Malcolm. Brown but yeah, it's it's pretty close. All right. tyra Williams is going to attempt to play through torn labrum for the raiders their fantasy impact here. I don't think anybody was drafting tyrone. Williams and if he's not on the field that could open the door for a couple of legends in the NFL that are now on the raiders I've talked about Nelson. Galore and say Joe talked up the listen Brian Edwards rookie that they've got who? Seems to be maturing a little faster than they thought and Henry is obviously going to get his but yeah. But that's the thing that doesn't help henry rugs as a help Darren Wall you know where I'm going with this. I don't think it's GonNa move them up draft boards very much. There's too many guys. He he didn't even name Hunter Fro and then Darren Waller. Jason Witten. Riddick. Nine pass catching bats. Okay. All right then. Bills GM brandon bean called Devon single terry starter on Sunday but matchups could dictate usage. Is Anybody kind of losing. Excitement for Devon Single Terry Yeah Yep Yep. Yeah me too. I'm disappointed in that really liked him. So he's still I mean I I wouldn't drop them too far personally explosive last year man and I think he's an interesting guy who falls a little bit but. Yeah I mean I think boss being a couple rounds cheaper is the the the way that I prefer to play that Backfield which you go single terrier most hurt. I saw single single-tier. Single I'll take part in non PR single Terry and full PR single terrier four net. For Debt. I forget rigged dire but I would probably prefer drastically there at this point. This makes me yearn for Melvin Gordon or Todd Gurley. Give me one of those guys. That many day of the week and twice on Sunday I will take that over secretary. Kenyan drake says he's fine tyreek Hill participated in individual drills on Monday A. J. Green should be back on Wednesday and chargers wide receiver Mike Williams could miss week one with a shoulder injury. So keep an eye on that. A few things to promote. PODCAST league get your entries in hopefully by Friday. If you can. If you sending video or an audio or even audio try to send a youtube clip, I don't really WANNA download anything. So please send me a youtube. Clip. Follow us on twitter. I really never give our twitter handles out I'm at Adam as early as er Dave is Dave Richard. Heath is at heath. 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Sixteen thousand. So you guys should all fall yards per gretch. Okay. A fine bit. Better, follow them so. I don't really tweet that much but I do tweet about this show a lot so. And one more thing to tell you about guys a new podcast. Holy Crap. Now, we've been giving you hopefully league winning analysis for more than a decade as part of the CBS sports podcast network, and now coming at you fast with a brand new podcast it's called fantasy football today in five. All right. This podcast you're listening to now is not going to change at all, but we are coming out with a five minute version of it. You're gonNA hear from all of us can be two people. Per night we're to release it every morning. So if you don't have time or. Whatever you want to listen to, both you get the five minute version that he can listen to the full version it's called fantasy football today in five you can download it anywhere. You can listen on spotify stitcher apple podcast. 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I'm going with one hundred and twenty second rankings disputes. I'm going to put two minutes on the clock for each of these I have twitter polls for three of them, but we're going to start with this one. Clyde Edwards layer fresh prince of air versus Michael Thomas. NPR You want a little context, Kareem Hunt in two seasons with the chiefs. Eighteen point. and. Twenty point eight points per game. NPR Michael. Thomas. His last two seasons averaged nineteen point seven right in between Kareem Hunt Sears and last year twenty three point four fantasy points per game better much better than anything hunt had done. So who would you rather have in full Pr Clyde Ziegler or Michael Thomas two minutes on the clock Ben? You got the first word. Michael, Thomas, I yeah. I mean at this point. I I understand wanting to go running back early but at this point in the draft I want to take something with a little bit more floor than cloudy towards seller. I mean I really like him. But I don't know that he has a huge floor and Michael Thomas is just such a lock to be a star player NPR so it's fairly easy for me to be honest heath. I agree, and I I the only thing I disagree with and not disagreeing with Ben but like everyone does it the idea Michael Thomas is just a floor play at this point in the draft, he's shown more ceiling than we should rightfully expect even in a ninetieth percentile outcome for quite a dealer we talk about cream hunts rookie year as clydes upside cream scored two, hundred, Ninety, seven points that year Micheal Thomas is worst year I last two, thousand, eighteen, he's scored three, hundred nineteen. So I don't think that it's fair to say Clyde is an upside play over Thomas, and floor is clearly in Thomas's favor. I'm glad you mentioned that because I did see that comment on the twitter poll and I've I've heard that before. Yeah. Michael Thomas does have a really high ceiling too. It's not just a four play. Floor play. Excuse me. Dave with your podcast is this. Who Do you take I'm taking Edwardsville layer, but I'm more of a risk taker, and in the first round, I want a player that might have a shot at seventeen hundred total yards and double digit touchdowns, and if you look at Thomas is done on average or the last two years, it's only been fifteen hundred yards and eight touchdowns whipped do. Now, obviously, he's got a great floor great ceiling. Everybody's already talked about that. But I know that running backs are going to go quick I wanNA have a running back. That's GonNa give me a chance to win my league in round one and could lose the league two and if I really feel like there's a better chance that he could lose the league then I wouldn't have had them right Have, right. But I'd lean toward the wide receiver and not at find a running back that I like in round two but I like to collect those running backs I. Think Edwards Allaire does that potential to match if not exceed what Kareem Hunt did as a rookie in Kansas City? All right. Twitter poll says Michael Thomas Sixty, eight point five percent Clyde Edwards e layer thirty, one point, five percent. GonNa Pause from the two minute time limit. You guys did pretty well there. At what point in the draft? Do you care less about total points when just comparing running backs versus wide receivers? Obviously, not quarterbacks titans less about total points and more about position scarcity you know because. If, quite ever dealer scores. Twenty fewer fantasy points that Michael Thomas. Does that make Michael Thomas a better pick or is that close enough where you say all right. Well, look at least I got you know he's running back I needed that. I think that depends too much on how you feel about the round four and five running backs and wide receivers. I think. I think we all died receivers lot more. You can like the receivers more, but twenty points is. A week. But that's a pretty big difference a lot. Yeah. I think the expectations should be that Thomas? Ceiling. At least twenty points higher than clydes and his floors probably a hundred points higher. But that being said like if Somebody said this when I was talking about it today on twitter like if you're guaranteeing me three hundred twenty points from a running back and from a wide receiver, I'm taking the running back. We'll obviously I agree one hundred percent but that's not what we're talking about here at. All right. Okay. All right next one, hundred and twenty second ranking debate miles sanders who averaged seventeen point eight points per game in the six games that I like to look at weeks eleven sixteen. And versus Julio Jones, who is typically better than seventeen point eight points per game. Last year, he was at eighteen point, three points per game in a sort of down year, and this is NPR Mile Sanders versus Julio Jones. How about we just say who like? Dave Heath Ben, and then we'll debate it. It's two minutes on the clock. Dave Sanders. Heath. Julio's man. Bandres all right. Heath make the case for who the over Miles Sanders Another situation where I think the expectations should be that Julio outscored them by thirty points and it was really close. I could've gone on we're talking about here I. Yes. Like a non. Tick Sanders but. I think the week to week leg injury. If nothing else should be the tiebreaker here like we have one guy who we might not see practice again before week one. And another guy who's healthy and we at the very least we think they're going to score a similar number of. Fantasy points but I think the overall scores them by twenty, five to thirty. Dave. I think is the exact same argument. We just had about Edwards versus Thomas and I'm not GonNa Fault anybody for taking Julio Nine even heath is here heath. I. Think that Sanders just he's got that upside and we saw last year he was on pace for. Pretty much the exact same numbers I told you Michael Thomas is average of last year's fifteen hundred total yards and eight touchdowns, and that was without him getting a thousand yards rushing I think he can get there this year I think he can be a big part of the passing game in Philadelphia you can. You can be worried about the week to week injury now, but it's not something that's guaranteed to bleed well into the season. Derrick Henry last year at a cap injury that costs them pretty much all training camp and then he went off last year he started strong air kind of along. The year he was awesome. So I think that just because he's heard now doesn't mean he's going to be hurt forever. He's got more upside. I. Think even if. That Yeah Ben. I want to hear he's come back. I just wanted to say like in two thousand, eighteen who Jones scored three hundred and twenty nine fantasy points and in two thousand fifteen, hundred, three, hundred, seventy, one I don't think it's reasonable. So he's line is what you're saying but mile has a higher ceiling. Maybe he's more likely to reach a ceiling. I don't really even agree with that though like I think the only argument for Sanders over Julio, is positional scarcity, but maybe maybe I'm. Wrong. My short answer would be I had sanders pretty far ahead of Julio probably about six or eight spots. Prior to the injury and I I still think that Sanders has. Again with the upside I. This is positional actually matters for me in and I think he has upside to be a top five running back and I will take that here. Okay next up Aaron Jones versus De'andre Hopkins. Aaron Jones last year averaged nineteen point, six fantasy points per game NPR Andre Hopkins was only at seventeen point nine but. The nineteen point six Aaron Jones. That's worse than what Hopkins has been in his best years. He's usually. In between twenty and twenty, one fantasy points per game. If you can get back to that level which we're not sure he can because the targets Blah Blah Blah. So Aaron Jones or de'andre Hopkins Dave. Ben. Go. Options. then. then. I don't know. Probably not taking you pass I honestly. Yeah I'll take I'll take hopkins. Okay Dave I word there is something off about Aaron Jones to me be solely on what the packers did in the draft and the regression that's expected from the touchdowns that he had last year and look you can keep scoring a touchdown per game and make a big silly fool out of me but I think the Andrea Hopkins is in a great spot to. Lead. The kernels and targets catches yards and touchdowns he's great red zone threat. He's dominant receiver and contested catch situations. I think Calamari Murray is GonNa lean on them quite a bit and I think the catch is here going to matter a lot last year we saw earned Jones get forty nine receptions talked about that number a lot I. think you're GonNa see I Hopkins at least double that number. So even if he doesn't have as many totally yards as Aaron Jones, the touchdowns I think can be pretty similar and the catchers will be better for options. Okay. So He's at our Jones right. Yeah and I don't like their within two spots of each other. So I don't have a real strong feeling on this either way I just like this for me is probably the more the point where positional scarcity matter i. I am skeptical of Hopkins Target Upside in Arizona that doesn't like I could be totally wrong about that. But based on the offense that I expect cliff buried around and what they did last year I don't think there's going to be one hundred and sixty target guy on this offense and the Andrea Hopkins. Four of the past five seasons has been below eight yards per target. So like if you put them a hundred forty targets, you're looking at eleven hundred yards season I feel pretty confident Jones can have more total yards net and I think he has more touchdowns to. Hopkins can crush in Jonesboro twitter poll seventy, five percent for Hopkins twenty, five percent for Aaron Jones. Anybody wants to get caught with Aaron Jones on the roster when he only has six touchdowns in the season the the weird thing is that like NFC ADP Jones's crushing Hopkins so I think it really depends on your audience with this question is he I thought they were both like two of the most overdrafted players. Jones was thirteenth. Right around there as well. Maybe maybe I was wrong. I. Let me let me take a look since since August I on NFC I just remember these two guys. Jones is sixteenth now Hopkins's Eighteenth or okay. Yeah. But they were they're both laying. Earn pixie their followers a little bit. Yeah and maybe it comes down to the position scarcity question again and that if you're in a drafting and I might. Into, this myself if I'm picking late in round two and there is a crazy run on running backs and I know that a receiver something close to what Hopkins would be if not, Hopkins would make it back to me and around three then I will gobble up the scarcity of the running back and take Jones ahead of Hopkins. So in a vacuum yes. I will take Hopkins of Jones but I in just that rare situation where connors gone and and Jacobs Chubb gone and Aaron Jones is really the last shining gem that's there at running back I would have to I would have to go with him and hope that I get a really good receiver coming back around three. All right. Next one, Ben I'll give you the first word on this after we say who better? Aaron Jones versus James Connor which is you know getting James Connors getting some hugh. Liam as they say. So who do you like better? Aaron Jones James Connor. Let's go ben Heath Dave Ben Gout. I, think I'll take Jones. Okay Day or heath. Fodder. Jones one spot ahead of connor literally back to back. Okay. So James Connor at his best twenty one and a half fantasy points per game in two thousand, eighteen last year that that's two points per game better than Aaron Jones, last year. In PR IS HE TANA catches. So. Ben You said Aaron Jones. Obviously, it's close for you go ahead. He I think we've pushed Jones down a lot. We've talked a lot about the negatives is still am wary of drafting him. I'm going to be wary of drafting connors well. But. Jones has been a little healthier right as far as my recollection connors had been banged up a little bit and Jones is still an explosive player like I still think he's in a scenario where at the right price and particularly when you're talking about him against the gallic connor who I think should probably be third round running back. I think that's a good price for Jones. You're talking about The Jones is, will they use him enough but we have I've talked about the up side of players in what should be chaotic NFL season this year and if you know Jamal Mrs Timer Aged Dylan, misses time or whatever happens and frees up. Work for Jones just like if freed it up last year and he was amazing in those opportunities like I think. Jones. Could still have a pretty solid year that way. Heath rebuttal. Feel again as in other words very close for me I would I would say is like we've all talked about the at least some regression that's coming for Aaron Jones and James Connor and twenty eighteen was two fantasy points per get better poor Dave better than Jones when he had those inflated touchdowns. And I and another thing that I said this on twitter yesterday i. If there's a player that I like more than the rest of people it's probably because they were a lot better in two, thousand eighteen and they were twenty nine. So I probably lean that way towards bounceback a little more than it seems like the industry is right now so. That would be my case. Final Word Dave. Jones versus Qatar. Jones a little bit healthier. We've seen CAL Connor get banged up each of the last two seasons. They're they're both. So alike, they can both score a ton of touchdowns, get a lot of yards both offenses that you want your running back to be in both have running backs that you can draft late if that's an issue for you you WANNA get the insurance policy. I I liked Jones situation a tad more than connor and it's really it comes down to just fragility I think that he could probably stay on the field feel more comfortable with him than I do connor at this point. Fund Stat that I gave out I don't know a few months ago satloff fleur three years as an offensive coordinator or a coach. The second. A running back has been second on the team in targets all three years. Todd Gurley Dion Lewis Aaron Jones could happen again this year with Green Bay be interesting All right. Next up next debate is. That's brilliant. Adam. Thank you. Leonard fournette versus DJ Shark Leonard Fournette. Typically, better NPR than led by then. Dj by about two points per game and two of his three seasons two and a half points per game, but obviously charges Br is rising. So take Dave Heath Ben Dj Shark versus Leonard Fournette. APR Shark. For Ned. Shark All right heath y you sound so enthusiastic. Argument for sure. Okay so Let me do my best to put on my brave face and make an argument for Leonard Fournette because I don't think it's actually that difficult to do I just don't believe that much in it. This is a guy who was like a three hundred touch running back last year and yes, they brought in. Chris Thompson. But Chris Thompson's generally healthy for four to five games per season. It seems like. They just Mike Guy Greg armstead missed the first half of training camp on the COVID list. We're all kind of projecting this thing on the Jacksonville where they did definitely try to get rid of them unless you believe in that they didn't He might just be a three hundred touch running back. Mostly, I think this comes down to where you're at in the fifth round and do you need a running back or not? If I had two running backs? I would absolutely definitely take dj jerk over Leonard Fournette. But I think he's an. All aboard the don't draft Leonard Fournette when it was round three and round four was kind of iffy. If we're having around five discussion about letter for I, think at that point, we've gotten a little bit silly. Now he went sixtieth in the draft that we're GonNa try to review today we're definitely going to review tonight on twitch. So let's see if we can get to that draft today. All Right Ben I know this is this is a wide receiver range for you. This is like around five pick DJ charter taking over for. Yeah I was GONNA say earlier that I don't necessarily think using past points per game is the best way to look at this because I talked about with running backs that we don't want to pay for past production. It's Not Super Predictive of the future. Frankly, it is somewhat predictive of ADP and that's what we can find some flaws. But yes, for net a scoreboard charge I don't expect him to get anywhere close to that this year. I, don't think he's going anywhere close to the receiving role he used to have I think there's a very real risk that they bench him. I don't buy into the he's in a contract year they're going to run them into the ground. The decline is through option tried to trade him and they are young. Team that's not going to be very good. They're gonNA WANNA see what they have in right armstead. They like the Divino Bo guy I just don't see any real scenario where foreign play sixteen games in his early back I mean I don't even think that's a likely possibility. Frankly I think it's less likely than than than turning away from him at some point this season. So it's a pretty clear one for me I. Don't think I would take before the eighth round to to he's point about him slipping I I, just I. I don't want him. Okay and Dave. This has been a case against Leonard. But you said, shark wants you to make a case of four DJ Shark. Case is that his team profiles to throw a lot this year they've got a young quarterback who seem to connect really well with DJ Chuck last year particularly in the deep ball and not enough in the red zone and I'm looking forward to that changing this year, and it sounds like chuck is going to be the one who could step up and get that garbage time production I think Jacksonville is GONNA lose a lot of games they're gonNA play from behind her at least competitive I don't see a lot of games where they're. Going to have a lead and they're going to say all right Leonard, bring it home for us. I don't think that's going to happen and I think Dj Shark is going to continue to be that number one type of wide receiver. I. Think he takes a step this year I wrote about him in players that I think are going to have a career year I think he beats what he did last year and that means more than touchdowns and more than a thousand eight yards i. think he's going to have a fantastic season. All right. We got a few more here. Let's go to. David Johnson. Versus Portland Sutton David. Johnson. VERSUS PORTLAND SUDDEN NPR Dave Heath been taken. Believe I've sutton ranked higher in PR. Johnson. Then, you go for a sudden over Johnson same argument. By the Johnsons fully healthy, you know there's there's upside here. If he's back to himself, he could be good. But we know that Deshaun Watson thrown his backside time I don't really buy into the concept of guaranteed touches. We think that you know he's going to have a big role too often those types of roles don't actually materialized for a full season. Young emerging wide receiver. I think he's they're clear number one I don't think Jerry Judy's anywhere near on his level yet and I think something's GonNa probably be a little bit surprising this year now that we've come to knocked down a little bit I, don't love the Denver offense, but certainly would rather choose this emerging young receiver over you know declining running back. There was hurt last year. He the last three years. Yeah he's. I mean, yeah. We don't know for sure what the touches are going be for anybody I suppose. But they traded De'andre Hopkins. Early, we know that girl is GonNa get. They were locked in we got that. One down. Thirty one to go. Did Trade. John Hopkins Forum, and Carlos Hyde one thousand yards in this offense last year. And I think he's still better than Carlos side. So that would be the case for David Johnson I suppose I like I agree that will start week one with Portland Sutton well ahead of Jerry Judy I think Jerry is a lot that talent than Portland Sutton is and may not be the case by week fifteen I agree one hundred percent with that I think judy is the better talent but I don't know if we're gonNA necessarily see that right away the other thing is That in this is based on film last year drew lock. When he was in need of making a play, it didn't matter who was covering Portland sudden. He was firing at them and it paid off several times last year in those five games that locked started, I think that Sutton is going to be like the the huggy bear the bff for drew lock as for David Johnson Twenty. Eight years old average three point seven yards per carry each of the last two seasons on A. Team that has bumbled their run game. Each of the last year's they traded for Duke Johnson. They mishandled him they're gonNA mishandle, David Johnson. He's a good pass catcher out of the backfield. The seem doesn't sort the running backs very much. They've got a spread offense coming in it's going to impact the receivers more than the running backs. Duke. Johnson might end up with more cash than David this year and I think he's just gets what's block type running back good offensive line for. That here in Houston I think they're doing. All right I? Don't know if he can stay healthy I. Don't know if he's that same effective runner that we saw a couple of years ago or even the same that we saw at the beginning of last year before he got hurt and came back and he was running like at a twenty pound bag of sand in his pants he was terrible. So I just I. Want to avoid David Johnson. I'm not excited about him at all. Do you guys think we went over under two minutes on that one that was over. Yeah. Yeah. I was par for the course. Under Scher probably yeah, probably So that's that'll do it. I guess we can finish off by the way David Johnson won the twitter poll on this one here David Johnson got fifty seven percent of the vote forty-three percent for Portland sudden and I'm glad that I'm finally not on twitter side for one of these feel much better. I don't know. I honestly don't know how good Portland Sutton is and I think a lot of people don't know how good. I think he's pretty good. So you guys watch football. Think. Taking crazy but I think Jerry Judy might be better. But that doesn't mean that he was the first round pick and he was an awesome player in college and a good incredible recruit to like he could be great. But that doesn't mean that Portland sudden isn't also great and I think Portland sons better this year I think we all do but. I don't WanNA despair it's court and I think he's an underrated a little been like we're all so excited about maclaurin and metcalf in that range coincide might be the guy who I like a lot better than that so for. Excited about metcalf that's true. But certain might have something to prove here but okay Nine yards per target with a rookie quarterback and a broken JOE FLACCO thousand yards. Yeah. He's got lots of proof. He wasn't doing anything last year. Thought I was on his side Ben. Jeez misinterpreted that by the way he kind of stopped with drew lock he had one great game withdrew, la Really Kinda. That's because drew lock barely through the. Thirty passes one out of five games. Yeah, it sounds right. Okay we're GONNA. Take a break. When we come back, we're going to say happy birthday to somebody we're to give this guy in awesome birthday present we are going to talk about some players who are having good camps which in case you have missed it is basically everyone in football. They're all looking great the coaches love. It is so stupid and so annoying to be quite honest with you but we'll try to sort through it and figure out what's real and what's just hype when we come back on fantasy football today. Support for this podcast comes from cdw In del Technologies. cdw Gee we get migrating your agency to a hyper converged infrastructure is challenging. Got To do it to want to do it but got to do it woes slowdown friend CDW Jeez. Experts can help simplify your transition from legacy to hyper converged infrastructure with Dell technology solutions that offer speed and agility. Have you done it? Is it done yet? Dunya Aren't Yorker Station by CDW. 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It's a very special day for Joey Right I mean look today's not only his birthday, but he is in the podcast league and he is co managing team with Dave Richardson Triumphant Music. For Joey right I don't. I can't play how I probably could plan birthday, but I'm not going to welcome to the podcast league Dave. This guy is a big fan of yours. Oh. I know. I get tweets from Joey all the time. Yes he says, Hey, buddy it's joey that guy on twitter who was always adding you like we are best friends which we totally could be more on that later I. Am the perfect partner for the podcast League, in two thousand twenty how am I? So sure of this let me lay out for you I. I am a great listener every day for the last ten years I've been listening. As you joked, as you advise, as you analyze podcast radio shows planet fitness shower Solos through thick and thin. I've been listening today they've also you make. You make me strive to be the best joey. I can be you make me want to be a better man in two, thousand, sixteen when I sent my annual pro wrestling team names. You seem less than thrilled. It crushed me. But I use that as an opportunity to be better what are in two thousand, seventeen razor moncrieff and hunter hearst Henry to graded ten team names you make me better. Dave sometimes it's tough love but it's love nonetheless I'm dedicated to our team. Dave. So dedicated. So much in fact that I want you to have Thanksgiving off in two, thousand, twenty, I've got our team covered I was smart and scheduled. To me for the Wednesday before Thanksgiving I'm taking the bullets out of the game to stay in bed for four straight days and not miss a thing. Now, one an active we'll get by me. Well, you spend the holiday with your wonderful family. Ali, watching our team. Let's put the Nadia Nanna and make this happen big cane. It's a win it. I'm not buddying up to Jamie just to meet his famous cousin or cheers and Craft Beers with heath or giving atom arm waxing tips I want a tombstone piledriver thirteen teams through hell in a cell and have our hands raised in victory together. Let's dedicated entry greatest. Love love letter I've ever heard we have. We have a bed gretch song by the way as one of the. Play hopefully tomorrow. I'm sharing a team. That Guy You're when they're in the draft room in Dave's being nice and said, okay, we'll go with the guy you want here and that guy bus will he be Joey wrong? You the better he after they take their kicking alliances team. Joey left. We're not taking a kicker and round fifteen. Joey if always been listening to the podcast for a decade, then he knows the basic do's and don'ts of fantasy drafting I'm confident of that. Raw. The last round right that's when you take a kicker. Do we have kickers. Kickers. Yes they kicked. And? That's what we're. GonNa do. Then around fifteen it is. Then you'll be done he'll be joey left. Joey left yes. He left the draft group. Yes. Better than that. He's he's by the way. Are we doing for the people? Your what? Yeah Yeah. I've got to come up with some new rules this year because last year was a little stale but yeah, we were definitely doing four the league at only if been gretch will participate. Was that work now? Don't make him participate. In was just saying before the podcast that he didn't have enough leagues this year. Also he didn't have low stakes leaks so he's Leagues that are just like free injuries that he can still make waivers every week instead of every week. and. This is exactly that type of league perfect and this is literally the opposite. I, these guys are having good camps. I'm sure there are a lot of names that you can throw in here too. But these are just the ones I came across. Its. Three times. Yeah three tight ends OJ Howard. For the Bucks Dan Arnold for the Cardinals Logan Thomas for the Redskins OJ Howard Dan. Arnold Logan Thomas do any of them deserve to be drafted and a twelve fourteen team league. Can Question? You know I want to say Logan Thomas you know that is. Logan Thomas is interesting. He converted from quarterback too tight end three years ago at the NFL level he was a quarterback in Virginia Tech he was drafted in the fourth round as a quarterback. Very Good Athlete tall big guy. They gave him two point two, five million guaranteed this off season in a signing bonus to bring him to Washington when they probably didn't really need to. I think he's kind of interesting and it kind of been talking about them all off season. I've mentioned a couple of times this summer on pod of draft pick them up in late. Deep Dynasty Titanium Leagues I drafted him in the second to last Scott fishbowl those types of formats i. don't know if he's necessarily draftable in a fourteen league yet. But if you're an elite in a League where you know twenty five tight ends go, that's where I'd start to look at him for sure. Okay. So Jay Howard Dan Arnold and Logan. Thomas. That's who ben was talking about and. Things about to those tight ends. Hats been just want to say because he is Ben was talking about Thomas months ago. But yes, go ahead Dave. Thomas. I've heard some things about arnold efforts and things about an arnold. If you watch them play, he didn't play a lot with Arizona last year but I mean big dude big guy who could be a factor in the red zone could steal some touchdowns away from everybody in Arizona. But I just not sure if he's going to get enough targets to war it. Regular fantasy use, and for now, I'm GonNa say the same thing about Logan Thomas but. Y-. We're all reading the same stuff that's out there on Logan Thomas and maybe there's more to him than. Than what we're reading now leave it at that for right now. Okay. And more players have been mentioned recently as having good camps Chase Klay, Pau Brandon I. To a ton of low apparently had a great practice on Monday San. Francisco running back Jim Michael Hasty. Buffalo Wild raised Gabriel Davis. Prospect UCF definitely good prospect. He's on my. On my dynasty team. Buried on the bench hoping he can come to something in buffalo bills don't have a big physical outside of wide receiver and he can do that and hasty is like a Scott back. If if the if the roster numbers game breaks the right way, he could end up being a special teams player and maybe the backup to Jerick. McKinnon. Yeah. Maybe he small not that easy backfield cracker Francisco Right? Easy receiving core in Buffalo. Exactly. Right but Davis is GONNA make the bills. there were few things that. We came across your that I think are worth considering both. Both Denver actually. From Pat Shurmur this is a really really tough year for first year players. In most years, you would have come into training camp with ten ot as and omitting care and a minicamp all that extra time we spend with rookies that's off the books in previous years you come into training camp having washed herself do it. You've got reps with the starting quarterback. It's going to be a real challenge for rookies this year in my opinion because they don't have that foundation that you get in a normal year, who's the first round pick for that team? Jerry curve sentenced better half. The only rookie to bend doesn't think is going to be great and twenty twenty. Well. There's that there's Vic Fangio who said that? That's their head coach that his team has already had more soft tissue injuries in eight days of practice this year than they had in. Training Camp and preseason games combined last year, and then there's this which is completely unrelated but possibly related starting pitcher injuries in baseball are through the roof this year ninety, eight pitchers on the I l. through the first thirty one days of the season this year not including covid. And fifty one last year and people were talking about the short and spring training. It's different right? I mean it was a shortened springstreen. This is actually a longer training camp, but the irregularity of the baseball offseason has not helped people players stay healthy. Healthy terms of sports injuries, not covert. It's just I. Don't know it's interesting. We might see just a lot of backups this year guys. There's that and then there's the rookie thing and. A lot of question marks. I don't really know. How to frame it but it's It's GonNa be a year unlike any other I think I'm pretty confident in that. And the most opportunity dependent position is running back and guaranteed touches are real and you should load up on late round running backs. And what about rookie running backs though what about the thing? That Shurmur said about the rookies? It doesn't concern me that much I think it's his opinion in a kind of concerns me a little bit for the broncos I don't think it'll be the case across the League we saw tear maclaurin start week one last year his camp was longer yes but Their rookies that are good enough, and they get on the field pretty quickly and and others that take a few weeks. It might take some a little bit longer this year but it doesn't have me offer if in fact, I think rookies are an incredible value in redraft right now. All right Hope you're reading our newsletter, the fantasy football today newsletter great stuff Chris Towers compiles it and He's got quotes in there. Really interesting quotes Patrick mahomes likes to Marcus Robinson Lot. He's a guy who could be a number one receiver in several different places. We know about yet. We we all a coal harbour could be great value of tyreek. Hill is heard saying this and that but what about like Robinson got a lot more snaps than hardman last year when tyreek hill was out. Yeah. Robinson could absolutely be a number one receiver in the xfl the CFL. The AFC. Andy. Reid. said that he I think he called it like a rising star or something like that something. Glowing. What what's so I think it's a good question like let's say everybody stays healthy for the chiefs. What's our projected targets for demarcus Robinson and make Harpin maybe sixty targets, Robinson, and maybe eighty to. Eighty eighty to ninety for equal. Arman it depends on Sammy Watkins your and Watkins is healthy about Yeah Yeah Watkinson tyreek or play sixteen games I'll say. In that scenario, Robinson gets like thirty to forty and Hardman gets like. Seventy. My point is this if there's an injury to. A cows Kelsey are hill or walk don't forget about to. Marcus. Robinson Okay and we won't on waiver wire when we give the show he he was productive last year as well. Then there's this quote from keenum cartel who was the jaguars receivers coach now being up close with La- viscous should not has that power of Andre Johnson. Hold, Andrea and high regards. That's my guy. We're good friends but I've also seen him work every day I see the power that he has he kind of reminds me a little bit of Andrei. He has that type of power. All right thirty home runs for Levinsky. Chenoweth. Somebody Get ben graduates cigarettes, but before Jonathan Daler, Levinsky outlets, my favorite product in this class I mean obviously t Taylor was too but man, it was fun watching him this spring I was on him big time coming into the draft I think he's going to be good. He's he's got a lot of Aj Brown deebo Samuel Woman. It feels like that's the direction that Wanna go with their wide receiver. If they can't get you know a fast giant to to be on their team where you can just put them in space. Let them go because he can power through arm tackles and pick. Up a lot of yards after contact plus they could use them as a wildcat quarterback can use them as a running back. Colorado, did he just had a lot of injuries when he was in college and the the hope is that he can stay healthy. He's he's an interesting player for sure interesting player and if you WANNA start with him on your bench to begin the year and fantasy why not? Hey, we just talking about Jacksonville and now their offense should throw a lot this year if he's the number two or even the number three receiver on that team that should be decent target share. I was going to end the show with fill in the blank but instead I will say that for tomorrow and I will end the show with our email of the day. And it is from Matt W. 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New York Giants Training Camp: Alfred Morris, Joe Looney, and Todd Davis signings

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22:39 min | Last month

New York Giants Training Camp: Alfred Morris, Joe Looney, and Todd Davis signings

"Support for this episode comes from t. Mobile we're a lot more than just baseball fans we're baseball fanatics and thanks to t mobile. We can stay connected to the game. We love with five gene more places. T. mobile is your ticket to the game so whether your home or away. You're never far from your favorite team with america's largest and fastest five gene network. Don't get caught looking switch to t mobile. The leader in five g. Today fastest according to open single awards based on average speeds and usa five g. experience report able two thousand twenty one to five g. device coverage and access details at t. Mobile dot com womack here on big blue view for another training camp. Update tuesday. Today is august third. I'm joe delia. Joined by chris from and we are bringing you more new york giants training camp content as the preseason is continuing to roll with preseason games just right around the corner before we get into today's discussion. Sure to hit the subscribe button and also had the biglou dot com or fantastic new york giants coverage throughout all of the giants. Preseason to chris today the first headline that we have is a funny one. I would say is the best way to phrase it because the giants did all this shuffling to go and bring in a different group of of names at the running back position. Saquon probably not going to do much during the preseason. He's probably not going to get on the field the whole lot. We're gonna talk a little bit of an update that we got from joe judge. That doesn't really tell us much. But we know what it means in terms of progress. The headline referring to though is the giants making another addition at the running back position. This time adding a familiar face running back alfred. Morris is the guy that they're adding and the reason. Why i say this is funny is because alfred morris is a guy who last year unexpectedly is on the practice squad steps up his on the team and steps into a role that many didn't really expect him to because devante freeman gets hurt and it ends up being more productive than i think any of us would have foresaw happening and here he is again continuing to defy age as he is at over the age of thirty at thirty two years old and last season referring to the stats that he had two hundred thirty eight yards and a touchdown and he averaged six point. Oh no sorry. I misread that. Four point three yards per attempt so he was able to have some decent statistics last year. Chris and here he is back with the giants. Yeah i'm not sure anyone really saw that coming because the giants they added three running backs. This offseason already. They added devante booker. There added caloric corey clement. And they added gary brightwell in the draft so it really looked like they had entirely intended to move on from wayne goldman and alfred morris the two guys who combined really were their offense in the second half of last year and now all of a sudden. Just look who's back. It's a thirty two year. Old alfred morris and i think his production last year was surprising to many. I think it was kind of surprising to us because he just did not look fast at all last year it almost like he out slowed the defense at times but when the giants brought their zone blocking scheme unit onto the field. He was productive when he was able to get to the outside his vision contact balance enough to get pretty consistent positive yardage and the giants really seemed to like going to him when they got into the red zone. That's when it really seemed like they took goldman off the field and put morris on so it'll be interesting to see how they use them. And i almost think here with all the guys that they've brought in throughout the off season we talked a lot about how devante booker and corey clement. Make the most sense to be the three deep at the running back position. But hell chris. I have this weird inkling of a feeling that alfred morris will find a way to make this giants roster or at least be on the outside and ready to be signed in the event that something does happen because of that strange circumstance of how well he played when asked him to step in. Now we know that. Alfred morris does not move at the same speed that he used to. He is very very slow. he's a little bit more lumbering but he's still outplayed. What i think many of us expected him to do that. Yards per attempt number. I reference four point three one of the best of his career which is a bit odd to say at thirty two years old. So there's a pretty good chance that he finds his way maybe not on the roster but just as a guy who gets signed if somebody goes down because they need somebody who they know is reliable and is just going to get the job done as a third running back or even a second running back if there are some injuries in the rotation. Yeah i wouldn't bet against that at all. Barkley will whenever he is finally healthy. That will he will certainly be the number one running back. Devante booker will almost certainly be the number two running back but then after that there's a lot of questions giants have a bunch of running backs on their roster right now. They've got clement. They've got bright. While they got mike weber. Central platz gummer. Now alfred morris. I could see them. Maybe giving lighter penny. Some carries said they've got a pretty tough battle for that third running back spot and will it be just a the top. Two guys and a fullback. Will they have three running backs in a fullback at. I assume they're going to carry a fullback so lighter pennies job is probably pretty safe but it will be very interesting to see what goes on in practices when we get to preseason in speaking of the running back position. It's worth noting that we should provide some sort of an update on how saquon is doing. And we're getting a little bit from the coaching staff. And joe judge on how things are looking and basically what we get is what we should expect at this point. Which is he's making progress. So one of the things that joe judge and you can catch the full quote within one of his. I don't much or if we have an article up on it yet but we you should be able to catch what he said completely but the gist of what he said. Is there matching the intensity of what they're doing on the practice field with his rehab so they're busting him through a lot of difficult stuff so he's in shape and ready to go. That essentially just means that he's able to use his knee no problem. They're just being cautious. They're not going to let him go out there and get hit but they're just getting him conditioned and ready to go for when the season starts so that means he's on a really good track the funny part of one of the quotes that i noticed chris. Here's he says when asked about where he's at he joe. Judge says. I couldn't give you an answer on that. That's not being coy right there and the as much as to judge tries to say. I'm not being coy. In how far along saquon is he probably is. They know where he's at. They're not going to give that information away. I can't say that with certainty. But i'd be willing to bet that they have some sort of an idea where sake on is and they don't want to give that information away to the denver broncos and some of these early teams that they're facing in their schedule. Of course coachspeak is really the art of giving reporters as many words as possible while saying as little as possible. And it's something joe. Judge is pretty good at you. Know he talks about how he knows where saquon spirit is. He knows where his work ethic is and he's making progress. But you know. I don't really know what's going on with. The doctors know more about that than i do. Yeah you're getting minute by minute. Updates joe we know that you know exactly where say quantity is and right now. The giants are really in the process of strengthening. The joint backup. They wanna make sure. Saquon is inshape Cardiovascular early they want make sure he's got his strengthen everything they also want to make sure the structure surrounding the knee are really strong enough to hold up to a getting through an nfl game and be all the various forces. That saquon is going to put on that neo. He is just explosively powerful so his knee has to be strong enough to take that in right now. It really behooves them to go slow so he doesn't suffer a setback and just a peek behind the curtain. A little bit. It's obviously different at the nfl level but there are certainly parallels in how coaches handle things in college and at the nfl or any professional league. That is but when. I was playing in periods of time where i was dealing with with nagging injuries whether they were light or serious and i was in the training room before practice or after practice there were always obviously other guys. That had more complicated rehabs than i was that were in there every single day. That were there for longer. Periods of time guys came off surgery during the offseason in every single morning. Even when practice started at seven o'clock in the first group to go into the training room was at five in the morning or five thirty in the morning or even six my head coach would come in and talk to the trainer and get updates on all of the guys that he knew that were important for the week. So the big name guys. The guys that we're going to be getting on the field even guys that were rotational players or even backups. That he needed out there for practice. They're going in and they're getting updates. So i would say that. This is a positive sign if they're trying to act coy and that they're not giving anything away. It's their way of saying we're not sure what happens with saquon. Maybe only get ten ten touches against the broncos. I think if you're not giving anything away. That usually indicates yes. He's far along. He's on schedule. He'll be ready to go week one or week to and it would be an absolute mistake by the denver broncos to assume anything other than the fact that saquon we'll be there he will be healthy and he will be getting a significant workload even if the plan really is only to give him ten fifteen touches in ease him back. They're going to be planning like he's going to be out there every. Snap exactly so we've got to other signings. That are pretty good. Note considering the giants needs at these two specific positions. We're going to get to that though soon. After a very short commercial break thanks to t mobile for supporting this episode and for keeping baseball fans around the country connected to the game. Because when you're on america's largest and fastest five gene network you get more than great coverage you get to stay close to your favorite team whether you're at home or on the road in other words t mobile is your ticket to the game. Make the switch to t mobile the leader in five g. today that's according to open signal awards based on average speeds and usa five experience report. April two thousand twenty one to five g. device coverage and access details at team dot com support for this episode comes from forward. Most people go to the doctor for the one offs like rashes and colds. And your annual flu shot but doctors can do more. That's why you need forward. Their doctors go beyond everyday care in an effort to catch top killers like cancer and heart disease early. They use advanced technology to help you reduce risks and achieve long-term results so invest in a doctor. That's invested in you and your long term health at go forward dot com. That's go forward dot com chris. We were talking about how the giants made all these moves at the running back position but the continued moves for depth at offensive line is now continuing to come full circle. Joe looney veteran offensive linemen previously with the cowboys also started his career with these san francisco. Forty niners also spent some time with the tennessee. Titans he has played in a hundred and four games in his career and also had a really strong stretch with the dallas cowboys. He is now at the age of thirty recently. Signed over the past couple of days to the new york giants roster and you know. This is another. Move chris that they're trying to add some competition for some of these backups. Guy like joe looney at the age of thirty not the same player that he used to be but still going to be highly competitive for a number of these guys that are younger. That are playing in depth spots. Heck even for the starting roles with shane lemieux going down with an injury that might derail some of his progress. Who joe looney big veteran name that has added to this group yes. This signing was really almost a no brainer. Last year. I had kind of circle. Joe loonies name is a guy to watch you know. Just in case he loses out on the numbers game on that dallas offensive line. I would have completely expected the giants to put it in a waiver claim on him yet. He is well known to jason garrett. He knows the blocking scheme. He knows the offense he knows the language. It absolutely makes sense to bring him aboard. What now that. He is available and i think makes sense to add depth and competition at that center spot. Even if nick gates is their best option at center their best option as a whole could be to let looney or jonathan harrison who was just activated off the pup list have a legitimate shot to impress at center which would give them the flexibility to move nick gates over to win the guard positions if necessary. You talked about the injury to shane lemieux That could be a motivating factor. Their their best alignment as a whole for the offensive. Line could be to have one of these guys step in at center and yet by which i mean loonier harrison and then move nick gays who played guard very well when his first year with the giants when kevin zeitler got injured and maybe let him play right garden have will hernandez moved back over to his natural left guard position or let negates move over to left guard have loonier harrison play center. I'm not saying one of these things should happen. But just having the options available could give the giants more options to shore up their offensive line if that is an issue and gives them a lot more options if depth. All of a sudden becomes an issues and loonies. Just going to be a guy that i think the primary purpose here is competition sake. You lose shane them. You as we reference to an injury and the timetable is a little bit up in the air on how quickly he can possibly come back and heck i would argue a regressing joe. Looney chris is probably better. If you can plug him in the inside chain lemieux. Those are thoughts. We've seen some pretty consistent. Play from looney and i know that we've had the previous glimpse of what it's like to have a former cowboys. Lineman plugged into the lineup. Would with cam fleming so we kind of have a sense with that. Might be like i. I think looney could be a good option. If they're not really feeling shane lemieux or any of these other guys like kyle murphy. That are in competition to possibly play at guard. Yeah definitely really at this point the more options you have the more guys who can do more things the better you know. There are a lot of questions about the giants offensive line right now. And that's something you kind of has to give you at least a little bit of pause as we march toward the preseason and week one and just to type one other loose end we got an update from mike florio that the giants have actually already met with three center. Austin raider formerly of the kansas city chiefs and basically the looney signing happened after the meeting and that basically closes the door on reader signing with the giants at least for the time being last headline that we wanna hit on another signing with some guys shuffling in and out of the available list of guys practicing at the linebacker spot. The giants add veteran. Linebacker todd davis the twenty nine year. Old who spent time with a number of different teams specifically the new orleans saints. The denver broncos for five seasons and then most recently was with the minnesota vikings coming out of sacramento state. He has started or participated in rather ninety six career games and then in terms of his total tackle numbers he has five hundred and five total tackles to go along with. Twenty three tackles for loss so pretty productive has seen a lot of snaps has been on the field a ton a guy that could work his way into a roster spot just sheerly based on the fact that this dude an experienced better in which the giants don't really have a whole lot of at the interior linebacker position. Yeah and he doesn't make a whole lot of place. Behind the line of scrimmage. Yeah he's i believe he's got three sacks. She talked about his tackles for a loss but he does get a lot of tackles and even if that is at the second level yet. The giants defensive scheme is good at funneling ball carriers or short passes to those inside linebacker so having a guy who can be a reliable tackler who can move in the open field. I believe he. Davis is not a real liability in coverage. He's not as good as some of the other linebackers. The broncos have had in there you know covering the middle of the field but if they can have a guy who can be a pretty reliable depth player who can make tackles when tackles are there to be made and give them at least some upside in coverage. That's a solid edition. Yes solid ad as they're currently having a couple of guys shuffle in and out at the linebacker position and we talked about some of the concerns for the giants. Not really having a lot of veterans. Not really having a lot of guys that they can point to four success and talent at the linebacker position. And i'm not saying todd. Davis is a highly talented guy. But he somebody who's been out there. He's been on the field a ton and he's played in a lot of nfl games even though it hasn't been necessarily in primarily a starting role and he hasn't been playing at a pro bowl level. He's still a good quality player for team right now. That just needs some veterans out. There they need somebody that is going to play alongside blake martinez. And i think somebody like todd davis at least provides really good competition. That's what's going to continue to happen. I think chris throughout training camp that will provide more and more updates on is just veteran. Guys that have played in fifty or more games over their their careers that are just added competition for positions. That need need guys to be motivated. They might not necessarily bring in a guy that's gonna come in and start but they're probably going to bring in guys that are going to really push the younger guys ahead of them so it fits along the lines of that looney signing in the now the todd davis signing. Yeah and that's what the giants do. They like to tinker with the back end of their roster. They liked to find guys who can maybe not take a starting job. Because you're not gonna find stars out there on the street at this time of year but what you can find our role players guys who are good death players yo. You probably aren't going to win. If they have to run out onto the field suddenly and guys who can really help their unit function through practice through the preseason and right now that's a fine. Add to make well folks that is going to be it for today's episode. Be sure to hit that. Subscribe button to stay up to date on everything you need to know about. Giants training camp flows heading to biglou dot com. Follow us on social media at big move you on twitter and instagram sake. Soon folks that the rest of the week support for this episode comes from t. mobile. We're a lot more than just baseball. Fans we're baseball fanatics and thanks to t mobile. 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The Kist & Solak Show #117: ATL O Preview, Dirk Koetter LMAO

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47:05 min | 2 years ago

The Kist & Solak Show #117: ATL O Preview, Dirk Koetter LMAO

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SP nation and bleeding great nation you are flying high on the kissed and so lacked showed this is episode one seventeen brought to you by the fine folks at SP nation and bleeding green nation. I'm your host Michael Kissed. You can follow me on twitter at Michael Kissed. NFL THAT'S K. I s. t. and as always I'm joined by the best dog on Co host in the Game Mr nine year streak without a bad day. He is Benjamin so lack follow his work at the draft network. Dot Com follow him on twitter at Benjamin so lacked. That's S. L. A. K. Ben How you doing brother Jimmy Kinski brother. What a show would they be. I'll be honest I've listened to the seven minutes exactly and then I had arrived at the trail and I had to get the car but it was great yarmouth finish listen to it but this was it was the thing where it wasn't is your phone allowed to announce it or not and then I wasn't allowed to announce what is it gonna be very excited to bring Jimmy Kamsky philly voice into the BGN radio family to integrate him with Brennan the inmate he forever rain though honestly like contested rain now with Jimmy in the building mean. Jim is no slouch just saying watch your back. Bill G. I have had a lot of funds so far communicating with Jimmy throughout this process and then also setting things up for the first show probably the the most challenging edit job that have had but also probably the most fun. I've had editing a show so I'm so glad to have Jimmy Board of courses knowledge is is excellent is he's hilarious and he's GonNa bring his inside throughout the entire. Season is going to be great for US affiliate voice. Dot Com make sure that you check that out. I'm sure you're checking out. It's Jimmy Kamsky so why did Jimmy join because he was our first gas on life on Eagles back in two thousand and sixty the thing stinks at seventeen maybe yet seventeen season is the first one we did because I was here because we have never talked about bad eagles season ever been a one since day. One with Jimmy always been a big fan so this is an honor to have him on the feed with us so make sure you check out. BGN Radio Episode Eighty. If you have not yet it it's a WHO when he starts to get into the Mike Francesca bits. I die and takes that guy. The parodies are are hilarious so look forward to to that for the rest of the season Zin. Were psyched here. Let's get into our weekly previews bent so every week what we're GonNa do and this kind of interchangeable but me and Ben are going to preview the upcoming matchup. This is week two against the Atlanta Falcons on Sunday night. Today we're going to be doing the eagles defense against the Falcons offense nailed it. I I'm out the gate. I we struggle with the wrong signed for the rest of the season. Yes we are now. What we're talking about doing eagles defence the Falcons offense before we do that. We do have some house cleaning to do just to note. We are recording this on three. PM on Thursdays so we don't have the knuth Thursday injury injury report yet will be having three PM. That's not a real thing at three PM quite Ben. Okay so let's get to the injury report. He'll were or what they do from Wednesday Wednesday and then when we record next will flip sides into the eagles offense will get you up to date on all the other injury reports and let's see here for the Eagles did not participate. It's still commute. GRUZA hill dealing with that knee injury that he suffered in in preseason. They're also offensive tackle Jordan. My Lada dealing with a back issue limited participation on Wednesday was dark Barnett out with a shoulder Fletcher Cox with the tow quarterback Nate sub-field recovering from his wrist surgery for the Falcons on Wednesday did not participate wide receiver Russell Gauge dealing with a concussion will update you on his status in the Protocol Wide Receiver Russell Gauge who is like integral to the first quarter game plan for Sampras. I'm I'm freaking reason and then was no longer used gotta explain mathematics anyway I was in the first quarter was like I have to look up. How many snaps Russell Guy Breath game. I thought it was thirteen not go on the field as the game and he just doesn't anyway go ahead. It's it's so weird because they ran eleven personnel seventy six percent of the time engage was was somehow very integral to that when they have to new Ridley who anyway we're going to get into the cutting head. I just Russell case reminded me. I was very confused by the whole Russell engaged thing yeah super weird so as I limited participation for the Falcons Offensive Tackle Matt go no. I'm not sure if I'm saying that go yet. The with the back and offense Gordon was Schweitzer with shoulder. Neither a starters doesn't really matter full participation for defensive tackle and favored the kissing solex show Deodorant Sinatra with a back so not too many big nose there however the Falcons did lose right guard Chris Lindstrom the rookie who've been I had I think we both had first round grades on Him. They loosen for the season and they're going to replace him. We'll cover that when we get into the different matchups along the offensive line but ben anything from the injury report stand out there for you. It's pretty straightforward. Orion's exactly what we expected right Komo my Lada probably not in the in the near time we know flashes so working his way back barnstorming way back and then Seinfeld I mean limited in in the sense that his right hand still works but besides that you know he's he's obviously not a guy that expect to be a part of the game plan anytime soon. I will say and I'm going to go find the tweet right now. Zac Act Berman of the athletic who by the way wrote the Gosh Darn cutest nobody jer about Dallas Qatar and avant Maddux's little friendship Roomma- bromance you read this. No I did not pals when rookies become friends like when they met they have like a mutual through a friend and then they sat next to each other and like you know like meetings and stuff and then they got assigned a roommate for training camp and they asked to switch that could be together and then by year two they they were like why would you move in together we carpool and stuff so they like a four bedroom house together and they play Nerf wars and they're adorable in Dallas huge and avant they is tiny savant like from Detroit and ousted from South Dakota anytime there's anything on football players being real people with real friendships as if like. I don't know that they're real people for some reason any time. That's the case I eat it up to death especially because this is a Pro Dallas got her podcast is now officially a pro avant maddox podcast by proxy just spy by adjacency anyway the the Maddox and Goddard show is going to challenge the kissed and select show in fifteen days thing on an eagles youtube of them like playing madden game. I'm against each other for thirty minutes and it's very cute. anyway that was great by Berman big fantasy berm he had today. Mu came out to practice with helmet in hand working with the trainer he doesn't provide context as to whether or not that's different than what's usually been the case by imagine because he's tweeting it is and obviously Komo coming back would often don't think not necessarily against Atlanta but coming back soon would be a big deal as we brought up yeah on the linebacker play wasn't strong four Philadelphia in week one one I like. I said I don't think they're GONNA get him back Atlanta but as we're about to talk about the Atlanta offense your linebackers can be put in a stressful spot with how Atlanta likes to run their scheme so Komo a player air to watch in terms of how quickly he's going to be able to come back. He's important to Philadelphia. They really need to shore up the linebacking core so getting into this preview and I agree with you Ben Getting into the preview of the Falcons all fence against against the eagles defense I mean we already kind of alluded to it. The Falcons offense has gone from CAL Shanahan calling the place to Steve Sarkisian Tim now dirt cutter and cutter by the way with he was so scared of the offense of success in the early this season portions for the Tampa Bay buccaneers that he yanked play calling duties from offensive coordinator at the time John Monckton who is now the browns. OC At the first chance that he got he comes out in his first game and they just lay stinker man. I Matt Ryan struggled but he was under fire. All Day failed to protect them off into line had some struggles but just the way that he has gained him up and you. Kinda slack me before the show saying dirt Cutter Ella Mayo Okay. Oh so what were your thoughts on the title the podcast show was having teen Derek hotter out there. It is so would you would you see from this offense overall babies schematically and then we'll kind of get into the individual stop in the matchups. Dirk Koetter is now offense. Coordinator are in Atlanta. Now you might be the asking yourself especially if you are a regular kissed and so actual listener how in the name of God is dirt Qatar. The offense coordinator in Atlanta of course cutter was the offense offensive coordinator in Atlanta from two thousand twelve to two thousand fourteen when the watchman call when the Falcons flipped over to Dan Quinn as their head coach I believe is when cutter moved on cutter was odds coordinator in Tampa under lovey Smith three year before love shuttles fired cutter was brought in. I believe leave as an interim by the way he was abused retained as a long-term head coach was there for three hundred. I was back in Atlanta's the offense coordinator if there's anything you know it's that you should just just higher office coordinator from seven years ago to make your offense good another reason why regular kissed soul actual listeners may be wondering why cutters offensive coordinator for the NFL is is because when the eagles play Tampa Bay and we to of last year we had a lot of thunder cutters expense because he was not calling the plays anymore. Todd Mahnken was calling the plays and Tampa kampe eviscerated Philadelphia burr cutter in seeing the success of Thanh Malkin's playcalling quickly took playcalling back from John Mahnken because he didn't want to see how much better his offense could be if it was called by somebody else Yup antenna they proceeded to regress cutter was obviously fired in favor of resilience and now cutters back in Atlanta so this podcast has has not enjoyed dirk cutters work for a while. Nothing is different. It's much the same. Atlanta is built to be a team that runs the ball at a wide zone scheme and builds the offense from there. This is what we call flow and flood sort of offense at the snap and you go you wash the first three drives against Minnesota. Soda which is all scripted plays the amount of jet motion across motion and then what you would call like Zip zoom motion zoom goes across the formation zip motions where a wide receiver comes in tighter this is the fountains are constantly sending receivers across the formation both pre snap and post snap. They'll do it with h backs with nasty lime receivers in in Split zone sort of luck so before at the snap. Atlanta wants to give you a ton of horizontal Lux make you potentially rotate your defense flipped or coverages adjust the strength of your defense defense and all of this matters one of the things that you and I have talked about in a recap of week one and the win against Washington it was also on my time line when the eagles had to deal with jet motion emotion when I say a cross motion motion motion that goes from one side of the ball to the other neal's had to deal with that they gave up nearly nearly a huge touchdown attain maclaurin because while Darby did not appropriately get into his check. This is an issue that Darby has had in the past and so and talk talk about that check real quick supposed to be doing in their own missed past maclaurin where was overthrown. He was supposed to be in a deep zone correct. Yeah Yeah and so if you kind of close your eyes unless you're driving if you're driving you want to do it go for title of. Your Life but if you think about just like a very typical offensive set one wide receiver on one side one wide receiver on the other this tight ends or running backs elsewhere in the one running the one wide receiver on one side jet motion across the formation to the other side of the field. If there's man coverage that corners gotta chase him all the other side of the field and it can be easy easy to get out leveraged you just don't run as fast you have to be worried about fake motion and keeping attain and whatnot quick jet sweep little toss easy easy money because you got out leveraged coverage so a solution that defense present to that issues instead of having the man coverage corner track all the way across the field is they have the middle safety come down and cut off the Jan motion guy so he goes to meet the motion of the formation now the man cover safety has to drop back and fill the responsibility that that deep safety would fill Ronald Darby had to do multiple times in multiple years for different reasons and has failed to do so. He doesn't gain depth as opulent discriminate. She's sniffing around sniffing around and the offense was able to get over the top of the eagles defense. They pulled the safety down with Jim. Motion and Darby does not get back deep in often so this was an issue presented itself against Washington. It's something you're GonNa have to be aware of against Atlanta vs Atlanta like I said it's flow and flood right so they're gonNA give you jet motion you know across and then they're going to give you a wide zone. Look in there and give you a split zone look and it's GonNa be a hard roll out with with big flaw in the whole offensive line is going to be moving. There's GonNa be one guy moving the other way and then they're gonNA run. Isolation concepts to mankind three-man concepts looked at you deep and so there's so much horizontal flow in the beginning of dirt Carter's offense again pre snap and snap that discipline across the defense all all eleven players is highly critical and we can even talk about specific positions and players that matter more but as a general note this offense is built to get you moving one way and beat in a different way. They want to get your flow. They WanNa get you. WanNa beat you that way. They want to beat you on wide zone going particular side so then they can beat you come into the back door as well. That's the basic tenet of of the Atlanta Falcons offense now under Dur- cutter and to kind of give you a visual of what that looked like that coverage that we're talking about with Darby to kind of get to a deep zone. If you think back to week four against the Tennessee hennessy titans after the Macleod injury the eagles ran that type of coverage a ton for different reasons and they struggled with it there as well so this has been an issue you for this defense. Ben Has pointed this out on his time when he did a clip where he broke down some of the coverages of from the Eagles and has those clips in there so if you want to hear more on that with a visual aid I highly suggest going to at Benjamin Zolak on twitter and checking out there. That's a good eight and the reason that's important is because like Ben alluded you too. You're going to see a lot of this. Similar looks from Washington Atlanta when it comes to their play action game I play action did not help Matt Ryan in in this game. He did struggle but play action. Also averaged nine point four yards per attempt last year and the sample size is sixteen times larger on that's or you're going to see it a lot and you're going to see cadets formation so you're. GonNa see two tight ends. They're going to be on either side and then you're gonNa have the wide receivers that nasty split. We talked about on the film review show. Those nasty splits close formation nation from the wide receivers on other side what's going to happen. Is that not only. Do you have to deal with those checks but you also have to deal with Julio Jones being in a nasty split. You're probably have outside outside. Leverage might be playing zone to make that easier on your linebackers and they're going to run deep and away from that quarterback. You have to track them across the field. This is something we saw Jalen. Hill struggle wiggle with Julio in the two thousand sixteen matchup of course we're gonNA talk about Julio. More but a lot of the concepts that you saw the eagles have struggle with they will have to adjust to and make it work against the falcons walk INS because they're play action game is going to be very similar and Schwartz who like we said in the film review show he will blit some of those run formations he has had success Szeswith that against the Falcons in the past but man did he run into a brick wall of Max protect against the Falcons and I think the eagles are GonNa have to win in a different way against the falcons than the Vikings. The Vikings brought a lot of pressure a lot of exotic stuff to harass them. The offense wasn't able to deal with it yeah well. We have a conversation about this. The Atlanta offensive line fine what happened. Let's talk about that became. Let's use was good for a second there. That was not a thing. I imagined right like Gig. Math is like Oh. It looks promising. It looks like he's panning out. We're GONNA give them money. I mean what Mathews has been solid for for a good while he was bad this game. You got around Kayla. mcgarry is the first round pick and he's he he wasn't able to get on the field. He had another heart ablation while he he had a timeshare with with Tyson umbrella. That was Kinda that that was always the plan because he's not conditioned and they WANNA make sure they're taking easy with them but either way. Miguel tackle for me was always going to be an issue when he came out and then sharing time with umbrella. Take mcgarry over four quarters on condition before we take Tyson Umbro a man what about right guard with no Lindstrom which Amman Brown what about with John Brown withdrawn Brown Eagles fans will remember as that one guy on the giants who've electric electric shocks eight repetitively and then left guards James Carpenter just just also bad. He got abused that game too so carpenter like isn't great but I find like held his water for what he is. It was the fact that like he's better than Jamalpur number one. I thought Jay Mathews was good like I'm. I'm flabbergasted. It's one game obviously but like Matthews got around and then Tom Brady was playing football. He's starting. One houses allowed not good so yes so the tackle situation is dire. Jamaa Brown is a huge weak point in Philly. You Know Jim Schwartz talked a lot about the struggles getting pressure with four against the redskins. That's not going to be something that's GonNa fly against the Falcons they much more so have the receivers one on one who can beat you and that's what you said you know like like Minnesota exotic pressures bringing matzos because Miss Minnesota has a secondary to play man Dan coverage behind it done right. Did you know that that's not what Philly wants to do. It's obsolete going to do whether or not that is. Is You know the right. Call is awesome. It's been debated. I know that I'm personally quite fine with no blitz and four runners on coverage tackle in front of you didn't give up yardage. I get it whatever but this is. This is a This is a situation where if the eagles aren't able to get pressure with four Matt Ryan is going to be able to make them pay a lot more in case keenum did Julio Jones covering really Muhammed soon. You're going to make them pay a lot. More than Trey Quinn Paul Richard Sanitarium unchlorinated Terry mcchord made them pay but maclaurin was out there playing the ex Julio Jal place the extra the falcons he might be a little better. You know like it's like this. The author firepower is there now. What I will say is that by nature of the heavy play action approach for Atlanta by nature of the the the the jet motion and the long play fakes Ryan spends a lot more time in the pocket holding the ball and even out of the pocket holding the ball then keenum dead in in in the West Coast approach that we saw from Washington at least late in the game. I think we saw a lot of play action. I think they're in it. I think I tried it. At his thirty nine percent before the the score got to like twelve points up 'cause they had seventeen straight passes where they didn't use play action because of the game script so I still think there's valuable takeaways in in those early portions of the game when it was still a game from keenum because there was a lot of play action. Those linebackers got sucked up. There was room behind him. We're GONNA see the same thing for the Falcons so I think they're still will be a big issue. There are especially with the linebackers but please go right so let's talk about what's actually talking about the linebacker thing because Anna this is a an interesting point talk about in the way that things get discussed in terms of what your defense has to do against offenses like this and I just checked case. Keenum was two point six eight seconds to attempt. Matt Ryan was two point eight right in to attempt long yeah right less than two point five seconds keenum forty five percent of his attempts. Ryan was at forty percents. China's attempts to rise in the pocket for longer. I want to make sure I was talking right. Okay whenever you talk about defenses offense have approach. They're gonNA give you flow their navy split. zoolander under Navy wide zone play action fakes horizontal stretches the subject matter is always the linebackers so as to soccer your linebackers up and it's to to get your linebackers moving moving into attack behind linebackers and I agree with that. I don't think that doesn't happen but when it comes to defeating an offense that attacks your team in this way. I don't think the solution in is better linebacker play. Is it really not to me and we should preface by saying I have never coached and I probably don't know what I'm talking about. It starts with the defense events. It starts the end of the line of scrimmage. They can force short throws by getting pressure on some of those role is that's an automatic. Check pro quarterback sure sure I mean if we're like we go straight to like the play action fake aac right. We'll have your weakside defensive end. You know the the one who was on blocking the plaque in fake if he stays home instead of that being a long roll out with roads developing down the fuel potential for chuck gains. It's coming out quaker. There's a pressure and then they got a reset and plays a little broken short but also just from the perspective of you've got to be able to stop the wide zone uh-huh and your strong side defensive end the player to whom the play is aimed is critical in doing so wide zone wants to get the whole defense in a flow set and then cut upfield off-field off of it if you're defensive end can get vertical and is not getting pushed horizontal. He's going to force a cut much earlier and it cut into traffic an order from wide zone to work especially the way that cutter runs away because Qatar's not running a Sean mcvay wide zone where it's everybody's GonNa go run wide and girl who's GonNa take one step wide and then cut up field the center's not going for the nickel guy right exactly. We like to say that McVeigh runs wide zone week right was wide zone wide zone with the goal of getting upfield immediately right cutter much like how Shanahan did wants to run Wysong where he actually gets his players to the outside the actually flares up the gap and he leads an back with a full back demarco right. Is that the name of their fullback. Oh back there forty two. No it's not the government's Keith Smith all really devastated. Where's Patrick number and he said that to US forty Patrick DeMarco's in Buffalo? Flo Fun fact anyway so they really WanNa get you why they want to outflank you and they want to run up the field like that so you need players who are really really really solid brown defenders especially both of them as weak side defenders and Derek Barnett and Brandon Graham again both great in these roles to be grading these roles because if you do so you're going to be able to stymie emme wide zone. You'RE GONNA be able to respond nicely plash and fakes. You're not gonNA get outflanked by things like split motion. That's going to help protect your linebackers if and when they're out of position this just to say that I think if it were Philadelphia approaches the Atlanta offense. It's not going to be from a perspective of what we gotTA. Make sure that Zack Brown stays home. No deals linebackers are bad and they've been devaluing doing linebackers for a few years now they didn't pay Jordan hacks adleman drafting the position highly linebackers or our position. I can get protected by really good line play. They played one linebacker for fifty five percent of the snaps last week absolutely up so they're going. It's going to be asking end mentally scrimmage players overhang players like Malcolm Jenkins to come down and to cut off flow before outflanks. The defense turn plays back into the strength of defense led linebackers cleanup. navaratnam is going to have thirteen tackles three of which he earned. You know what I mean. That's fine. That's team defense against the team that wants to Strachey with wives zone when we come back here on the kissing so elect show. We're GONNA get more into the offensive line matchups so I'm GonNa ask band what his Derek Barnett take was that he told me about before the show. I'm excited for that one also we're. GonNa talk about of course a matchup say in the secondary as well. It's coming up next here on the Kistins show with an epic first week of football behind us. 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I is a timeframe to take over 'cause devante Freeman did not he looked indecisive and he didn't look explosive. He didn't have the same spring out of his cuts. Maybe I'm being reactionary canary to one week last year. He did not look like the same back yeah. I think that Ito's got juice and I think that eat out you know. I think that the Falcons running attack in general was at its best when it was Coleman Coleman Freeman. They're both healthy and they're both good. We know Freeman is is been beat up. He's been recovered from injury and so it's not out of this world that he would be athletically not exactly where he he was not willing to at all you know kind of wave the white flag and push out the funeral pyre on devante Freeman especially because Minnesota. It's no secret how to respond to the offense at the Falcons gave them. It's not just finding wide zone is not like a riddle and the Minnesota Front seven is bill to do it like I said all. The Eagles don't have great linebackers well. The Vikings Have Eric Hendrickson Anthony Barr so they're kind of you know set at the position to be able to respond to these issues and they were they were fast-flowing flow and they were they were doing fantastic They're a huge physical front and that's going to be really advantageous to them. In those situations now I'm not I'm not really willing to to make and I will say though that Ito is a number one superfund players Joyce out there number two. My question is where four targets to devante Freeman verse one targeted. Ito surprises me right. Ito Out touch don't was six to eight okay. That's fine pretty much split on but from a pass catching perspective that's where I would expect Smith to get a bigger portion of the pie on but then again this team targeted Austin Hooper nine times and Julio Jones six times so what what I am the vikings were doing things to trail on Julio and everything like that and let's kind of transition there. Let's let's look at it against Julio here under this framework a prediction from you so Julio can break the franchise record for the Falcons for receiving yards on Sunday he trails only the great roddy white troubled by one hundred and one yard does does he break the all time franchise record on Sunday night. I'm going to say yes you say well yes as well and what are the eagles have to do to prevent that or are they going to be kind of okay with that and just kind of letting them not necessarily dumping too many resources into stopping. Julio until you get into the red zone. They doubled them a lot in the red zone last year and was successful for 'em. How do you see all of that playing out. Does he hit that franchise record no. I don't think he's going to break one hundred one yards. You don't think this this offense that Julio Jones against these corners are going to move at at the very least pretty well from twenty to twenty just like they did last year just like they've done literally forever. Julia John's last four games against Philadelphia is one hundred twenty three yards one hundred forty thirty one yards hundred and thirty five yards one hundred sixty nine yards so yes absolutely here's why I don't think so because four God forbade cutter runs Julio Deep Blue and readily intermediate short Brian Not GonNa have a Lotta time I think that this game and we just talked about Philadelphia off any beat deep a lot but I'm really expecting Philadelphia to get more pressure with four this time around you know if they don't we got a whole different conversation now at I expect them to treat Julio more like they treat Odell in in those situations that right at keeping things over top potentially with cone coverage right and which which is the case might expectations that this is going to be the Calvin really game for Philly there you go this way readily. McLaren similar players in terms of how they win. I think that that sort of receiver who can run fantastic routes. It's against big cushions separating the intermediate levels of the field as going to be the receiver gives the eagles the most issues this year. That's Ridley to me. That's what that's also knew us right. Now who is is is a slug is he's a big guy but also new runs tremendous routes. He may not get the same off cover. SORTA looks that really does because I think some new out snaps for the in the slot if memory serves. It's going to be interesting with the matchup because the new is a big dude big slot type of guy. The Eagles run a lot of big time. Does that mean that Avantis Maddux's autumn does that mean that Andreessen day horizontal are they kicking in Sydney like who who is a Kissy maddox against the new. That's fats mine. Well like you can't but then also maddocks kept Allen Robinson locked up for all but one drive against the bears on the outside aside and play the Hopkins really well with with some help obviously but he's not the same kind of help in the slot that he will outside right now and Maddux's game against Washington Santon who I will remind listeners. This is now officially in Atlanta Mattis podcast because he has a car wash. It was not great which you know I it. We're so so so too early away from saying like is he. GonNa have a clement sophomore slump. Kinda county year one magic situation right he liked Cayman. Dan had three good plays and like really got his own momentum going and having to and the expectations are ratcheted up we're not near there yet but of automatics play better in his first rookie year in a different position of the NFL level than he ever played at Pitt which like Marta explain Iran anyway right. That's why I remember when Maddox was coming in and they're putting organization that was like this is not going to be good and it was great and I was like now. I don't know what's happening right so obviously we're not there yet. Just the point being I think Jank Everson you make some sense and I think they've had overseen new in the past. The Falcons had something I haven't gone back and having the watch the twenty eighteen games of that against the Falcons but I think they've done Jenkins oversaw new before I've appreciative also Corey Graham overs before I'll fascinated with the syndey ho in this pathetic goal which is not great. It's going to be like a shadow. Oh situation so everyone's GonNa Kinda get a piece of SONAE but I'm wondering how they keep maddox away from it if they do keep maddox away from it would obviously be a pretty good answer there yeah well. It's tricky because they're gonNA going to run those nasty bunch. Sets Atlanta likes to put three receivers right up against the tackle to offline went on a little bunch on they run route stems off of that Jenkins because it's going to be the point man that Brian I'm Gary where he does what they typically do unless they have it in which case they can put Russell over it so which will get that situation is the point man. Jenkins begins will take the point man he'll press him and then the outside corner will take whoever's first outside and the inside corner will take whoever's first inside from the releases from the receivers so the Falcons Falcons can kind of play with the match ups that way too right so certainly a chess match. What I will say is like again like not the best game it's Washington. I no way shape or form my like. We gotTA protect Devante Maddocks from anybody. Yes a pneumatics is a is a size advantage but again. It's all you that like every receiver in the League is this is and not being matic set a record for tiny arms of the combine. I think it was twenty yeah twenty nine yes which are like literally mice. The type direct sards mock draftable. It's it's secretive Roman right so five nine and a half which we don't talk about enough aw one hundred eighty four pounds and then Yeah Wingspan of seventy one and three eighths arm lengths of twenty nine and a half which is the number one percentile for corners in a number one percents fraud defense backs. We've talked enough. He's a t rex. He's a large part of why his stock doc drop because it pays pit film was he was so competitive at the cashpoint what also so you can't always do anything about it yeah yeah but then it's easy to forget ninety. Seven th percentile in the three Co ninety nine percentile in the sixty yard shuttle guests is three D. US through Tom. I it's got to be like something like whoa okay so. Let's let's let's start with this yeah. The average the average three gallon of nine hundred percent his the average present three conference defensive back. Jack is nine three three the average for a three gun for a corner six nine. Oh wait six seven five six five one Jesus. There's one thing he ran a ten. Seven to sixty are shallow de bananas that is he's so quick. Man is courtesy. Sixty are shuttle average is eleven four eleven fort curated seven nuts ridiculously fast tiny arms big up savante matic's front of the pot uh-huh the match ups are going to be interesting. Eagles don't have anyone to protect because they have liabilities in man coverage of pretty much every spot right so like how you you can't really like protecting the guys who is worse than everybody else right and like you know we just kind of making it more confusing anyone exactly so yeah. I will like if you get a Julio. Oh isolated backside acts. I would not be surprised that they checked to a cone besides adder which when we check the cone coverage when we talk about a cone and if you watch the eagles he also played Odell Beckham junior with the giants over the years how the played the Andre Hopkins in the week fifteen matchup against Houston a corner with safety help over the top even if like I said backside X. Receiver so typically if you have three receivers to one side and one receiver to another you wouldn't put a safety over the one receiver side right yeah. Yep but in the case of of of that alignment where Tulio or Dell or Deandre Hopkins on the backside that team really wants to get that receiver isolated man on man so you give a corner Ezekiel over the top it allows them to play up into Leonard Scrimmage and destroy disrupt the round stem and then play underneath the receiver in trail coverage putting his body between the receiver and the quarterback Steve Over the top. You're not worried about getting deal. You have that help. BIKING's did this with success last week. Yeah right what we while a lot of times the way it expresses itself in the Eagles is something we call cover cover. Six covers Texas looks like three D. coverage was what Philadelphia likes to run obviously cover three the field is divided up into thirds and each third is taken by different player in cover six. You're GONNA have half the field taken by one player and then the remaining half divide into and it'll be quarters coverage over there so quarters coverage recover four on one side cover too on the other side `two-plus-four six cover six that half field will be the single receiver side. There'll be a man coverage receiver underneath it and then under the cover foreside can match zone or you can run just pure cover four zones underneath and that's how you run run cover six idea so that's what you expect for. Philadelphia the over Julio Jones. What is your Derek Barnett. Take that you were telling me about the show. What's what's what's the takes I agree with you on all the cone coverage stuff. I think they're going to do that against will you. I think he breaks one hundred one yards anyway. I'm not sure if it matters because it hasn't better than the other games. The Eagles have won despite some very close games and really changed on one player another but we'll move on past that we'll get to the Derek Barnett. Take hit me with it twenty eighteen in this the summer before the two thousand eighteen season. I wrote about Dearborn. It's five and a half sacks which you got mostly unblocked against again. That's Khalil knock right now and in that piece I wrote about the sacks Derek Bennett had and then the pass rushes he won that didn't turn into sacks to kind of figure out where exactly this player here is my opinion after his rookie season remained relatively unchanged from my opinion when he came out that he was a good player on around to grade. I thought the Eagles overdrafted same which which people forget that that's my take people think. I just hate him that Bo wolf of the athletic. That's my take to get nearly as much about of this to know at the end of of this piece I wrote this. So what do I expect Barnett. In Two thousand eighteen twenty nineteen honestly much of the same Barnett is a limited athlete who is no longer much smarter than his college opponents so returning to his cornering success of Tennessee is likely a pipe dream because he's a hard worker with good hands. He'll continue to improve his rush moves. Increasing the frequency with which generates his own angles using his characteristic band to finish he will get better by the character of his game like we have to shift. It's not about being cornering expert. It's about cornering well enough to build off of that threat reach though put a different way born at one on the outside edge track with a first step with bent Tennessee the athletic ability does not translate well enough to the NFL. I'll say does not translate lumped. NFL did not transit willing to sell to the point where he can't consistently win in beating his opponent office snap getting outside shoulder and rushing with Ben so bar net who is showing improve Hanjin year two is now back for your three needed to become they player who wins just well enough on the outside corner so that he can work hand fighting inside counters and rush moves and that's how he has to win at the NFL level. He's got to improve his technique hand placement has hand strength to win in the NFL levels. He can't just be a speed rush from the outside and where he does not have a physical tools. That's what I wrote in the summertime eighteen. I think I know where you're going with this. What did you see from him while we saw in the first twenty nineteen what needs to happen this. Is this what it's supposed to look like he wouldn't sign right and Fran and Fran Duffy did a tremendous job putting adding these up Fran obviously who you all but if you don't have the eagles at Duffy to three Adeyemi three fantastic up exactly what we we've never seen right Barnett which is threatening the outside and then using the hands to get back inside he always wanted to run that outside arc that little forklift thing he does and I like that that was what we needed to see him. Barnett he needed to expand his move said if he can start like really winning with those and then you know incorporating the spin move which is portrayed as he was like a sophomore at Tennessee was ugly then and it's been ugly for a while but if you can get things going and build on that Musette yeah then then then he's starting to look a little bit better on the outside there right exactly and when it comes to and again I think this is an imperative. Take note is that Burnett rushed speed the power and so Burnett does not bull rush. Barna gives the first three reps of speed rush and then turns inside himbal Russia's right right when Barnett worked as little club move against Donald Penn which was sick pretty it starts out with upfield speed rush and then he comes inside and then he ran back outside so Barnett's rush plan which has improved every single year he's been on the Eagles is still predicated on the idea that he can threaten the speed be brush and that's what's important you have to be enough of a cornering threat to build your rush arsenal off of the speed rush off of the initial first two steps three steps that look like a speed rush and then from there we need a Barnet's hand get better in his inside counters to get better such that he would win more Russia's because if he kept trying to win with the speed rush he was gonNA consistently lose. I think that's what you saw and thought at times in your to and you saw it in this first game in year three and like you were saying that the reason that he was going to lose in that way if you can't threaten the inside like tackles those were over setting against him and still winning because he didn't have that inside counter now he has joined side counter right and something that you saw what happened for Philadelphia like for example on the power rush that he won against inst- Donald Penn right whereas really nice again I two three steps speed speed Russian than he goes straight speed and power so he gets panda hinge his hips open expecting expecting Barnett to continue coming on the outside tracks. We can ride him beyond the peak of the pocket and once those hinge hips hinge open Barnet's coming right through him. He's not powerful stance. He takes into the into the lap. Napa the quarterback yeah what happens there on that rush is critically the defensive tackle next to him. Molly Jackson Russia's from big at a gap he slams inside he carries the guard guard with him and so because barn is getting better better coming inside. You take the divas tackle next him. You put them in the Big Apple. You tell him cross the face of the Gourd. Get into to the egg up and take that gored with you because if and when you do you're gonNA give a one on one to way go if that guard comes into the gap with the rusher. There's there's no to way go. You can't rush the be gaps people there. There's bodies even if you win too much nonsense trash so you get the guard away from the beginning you get him to close into the air gap defensive offensive tackle now burden. It's got a two way going born. It's clearly a smart player has hand usage has drastically improves its assignments Tennessee. This was always the path for him. This was always why women I and even when you wrote the pre-draft evaluations on Derek Barnett it was he's a he. He went through this first step and he wants with his outside rush track. He's got good ben but he's not very explosive and he needs to be able to win on the inside track with hand usage in with counters better than he did. He had good hand usage of Tennessee but it needed to improve brim to deliver on say a fourteenth overall selection so this is as promising as Derek Burnett has looked and that's what I want. The sound bite to be yes to offsides penalties. One of them are really stupid stupid way. This is as promising as Derek Burnett has been and I think that's that offsides problem for `Damas rocks what it was just dumb. Ma'am yes stupid but if he's going to be a edge one second contracts one on one thread defend offensive offensive line is worried about you. Bona fide edge rusher. This is how it'll be. It'll be hand usage counter rush moose threatening with speed threatening ending the speed rush and working off of that into account Russia's and into bullrushes and occasionally indoorsy rush. Barnet's got his thumb on the winning formula here. It's not locked in. We've watched one game. He hasn't stayed healthy and we have to see consistently. Obstacles are going to adjust and they're going to damn the outside. Barnett Scott good band and that will work for Barnet but off the tackles. You'RE GONNA learn how to continue to play him. He's a growing growing player. He's evolving his his arsenal so off. The taxes will evolve back but this is this is the path right here so this is as excited about Derek Burnett as a Philadelphia Eagles. I've ever been good news one hundred percent agree. I don't have anything to add to that. You know that I mean we've been talking about it forever with Barnet so we're on the same page here then. Let's get to some predictions. The line is set at a negative two over under his fifty two and a half luscious round this out and say Vegas things to score will be something around twenty seven to twenty five with the Eagles winning owning Ben over under on twenty five points for the Falcons after Jim Schwartz this other offenses something like twelve points per game in recent history. What do you think is that the implied line twenty. I five points twenty seven to twenty five. That's fifty two though of runners at fifty to the eagles are two point favorites both over owners to fifty two and a half but you can just round it down. I guess on the on there. I think I think maybe I'm like really just forgetting how bad this team was against Washington but to me out. Yonder on that twenty five yeah yeah I wanNA take the owner as well like we talked about. Jim Sports frustrated the heck out of his last week. Jimbo and his history against the Falcons is as such that I mean I trust him over dirt. I don't trust them over Jay Gruden to not get out schemed and just having a better eagle somewhere between dirt Qatar and Jay Gruden my God. We're in trouble. That's amazing. That's that's that's. That's a good one. That's a good mid point for Jimmy. Schwartz between Jay Gruden and Dirk Koetter can trust him to take out a dirt gutter off Jay Gruden and that now perfectly Commun- coach Ben. I think that's it from me. Would you say goodbye to the dental center listeners. Let him know we got another preview show before. I just did sorry I took your thing. Thanks for listening shelf. Wrap it up. Get the energy going. Let's get hey listen you. You're a friend you talked to. What we we talk to each other. Actually you didn't talk to us. We talk to each other. You Lesson Watch. It was enjoyable then decide about Burnett season be great Mike. Mike thinks better than Devante Freeman. That's questionable but it was a good episode. It was our defensive preview. 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Falcons vs Buccaneers: Postgame podcast

The Falcoholic

53:06 min | 2 years ago

Falcons vs Buccaneers: Postgame podcast

"Dogma Hollick year and par a happy new year to you as we are about to celebrate or are celebrating the new year nail in the sky gets uploaded. Welcome to the Hollick post game podcast. I'm your host court Woodruff, and you know, New Year's new beginnings. And we are saying goodbye to a falcon season two thousand eighteen is in the books putting this on the shelf, and now swear, and we are, you know, preparing to get to a point where we can look ahead and try to be optimistic for the future. If you know me, and you know, this podcast, you know, that's the brand here. We really do try to be optimistic and try to look for that silver lining wherever we can find it. And you know, it's just one of the difficult things about a bad season as that you can kind of get a bit dismayed in the discord. But you know, shut my friends. Let's try to look ahead to the future. And we've got plenty to talk about. In that regard. And I enjoyed the course by none other than Evan burchfield of the Hollick Evan. Thank you so much for joining us and how're you doing as we transitioned into those nineteen. Thanks for having me on again, Corey doing great hope everyone has a happy new year and starts off the year. Right. And yeah, let's talk about this Alcan's in books finale. Yes. A game that they were once down seventeen zero and one which is a very non falcon thing to happen. Usually we don't have big comebacks against teams like this. But usually what happens the other way around were up by a lot. And we end up, you know, throwing the lead in the trash can. But I think that there is a lot that you can look at the scheme and the optimist about the be able to think after a really tough season finish it on a strong note. And it didn't drop them a lot in the traff rankings. So they might miss out on you guys because they were able to win this game from where they originally were. But sometimes it's hard to control that and you have to take it. How it comes so Evan? We're a couple of things you saw on Sunday that made you feel. All the mystic for the future. I think like what you said about the comeback. It's not something where used to where usually on the other end of blowing the lead, obviously. But I mean, you pretty much Saul Matt Ryan have you know, you had a pretty good game. Yet is I ever I think I read somewhere that was the first ever quarterback reception per touchdown or whatever for the falcons or in south consistory, or whatever. So that was pretty cool to see Julio was, you know, back to his normal self like he's been doing all year. So that's pretty exciting. And then he, you know, finished off the year as the with the most reception yards this season, the whole NFL. So I mean, the offense is cranking, and you know, defenses whatever, but it was the bucks and it was the final game. And it's you know, it's hard to really put a lot of stock in anything. But it was. A good. It was a good win. And I love how it ended with Matt Bryant kicking the win the game against the team that he spent you know, decent portion of his career with. Yeah. It was good ending to the season. Even though there's no playoffs or anything. It was. It was a great send off I think into twenty nineteen. Yeah. I think those are good points. You bring up Matt Bryant. And I do wanna talk about him just for a second. He's still on contract with the team next year. He was very very reliable all season. The only missed one field goal that was a belief from like fifty seven out didn't go in or not think he made that one. There was another is another long field goal where they just he just didn't have the distance on it because of his kind of his ailment with his leg. Just couldn't really get that power on there. But you know, it breaks conversation because he is, you know, interesting the point in his career where you really begin to wonder even for a kicker, you know, when is he going to call it quits? Things were Kilby forty four. When the new season starts he turns forty four on may twenty nine. So you have to kind of I think take into consideration the fact that Bryant could decide to retire. I think he may wanna come back for another year. I think he may look at this team and go, well, yeah, we didn't get to we wanted to go. But we've got a good chance of getting back next year. They make the right moves. And but then again, it's like also there's no guarantee for him. Like there is obviously no guarantee that it becomes back. They'll be able to magically go to the Super Bowl or something like they had their chance at that. And they weren't able to do it. But he has gotten the play in the Super Bowl which in and of itself is a big deal. We don't always think about that. But you know, he got to win the championship and has been able to be a part of weeper bowl contending team. He's made a lot of big kicks in his career had really great and closing moment. Inning season. That had some troubles with the late was. Hamstring was able to get that last cake, and you know, indices on a good note. But do you think you could hang up because I'm kind of wondering right now, if that might be more possible that we're considering because he has an out every year in this contract to be able to do that. So do you think that's a distinct possibility? I mean, the only way I think that we don't know the full amount of details on his injury. I mean, he was well enough to kick the last few games. So you assume he's fine or close to it. I think as long as he wants to play he's going to play. You know, like you mentioned he only missed one field goal this year. He he had twenty attempts or one tents and he made twenty of them like it's not like he's lost a step. He had his best feel percentage this year with ninety he made ninety five point two percent. And that's kicks over twenty, you know, counting ticks over twenty attempts. He he's doing, you know, usually with kickers, you get rid of them all if they start to suck if you wanna put it bluntly like he's not he's actually like he's you know, he missed them game. So it's hard to say. He's getting better. But he definitely didn't get worse as long as health is there and he wants to play. I don't see any reason why the falcons shouldn't keep him. You know, the whole Vecchio thing. It's interesting that they kept him on the roster for the last several games once Matt Bryant returned. You know, that's you know, and then on top of that we have new we'll get a new special teams coach, I don't know how much that place into the kicking game. Probably not a lot. 'cause my Brian just keeps kicking butt. So to sum it up. I think he'll be back. I think they would have put because this this is what I I'm not saying he should retire at all. But leading up to this game. Like, I was saying he he spent a good portion of his career with the buccaneers a couple of years. And that's really where you went. Okay. You know, he spent people don't realize he spends some seasons with the job. Ryan, I think he he was with the dolphins before I think there was one or two other teams, but he spent a couple of seasons what the buccaneers. And that's where people really knew who he was. And then obviously, he's been a legend in Atlanta. I think it would have been a perfect ending to go into Tampa. Like, let's pretend that was it wouldn't you felt wow. Matt Bryant, you know, he went out how he came in just a legend, you know, one game in Tampa. You know, that's that's what you would want. But the fact that nothing was said of that game before like, oh, this might be met Brian's last game. There's been no whispers of it. If you follow his wife, Melissa Brian on Twitter. She's anytime somebody's really said anything about him retiring, or whatever she's kinda put her sense in saying, you know, like he hasn't said anything about retiring. So I don't think it's going to happen because. When you have a, you know, you could say Morten Andersen or some. But in my eyes Bryant's you know, top-five picker in NFL history just based on clutch. But he's definitely without a doubt the best kicker in falcons history, my eyes, and there would have been more to it than waking up, you know, during a weekday going to work and being like, oh, do you hear Matt Bryant retired? Like, he's not he's not gonna do that. They would give him a going out party. If that makes sense, I think he's at that. He's at that level where you're going to get that that treatment, you know, and they might even say during the regular season. Like, I don't know we three or four something. And he's starting to slow down any like, you know, I think this is my last season 'cause they're going to give him that that legend treatment, and he deserves it. I don't I don't think it's going to be oh Matt Bryant retiring, and that's it. You know, breaking news. You read it on Twitter. Matt Matt Bryant's retiring, I don't think he's gonna go out like that. Yeah. I think that there is a case that can be absolutely made that he deserves more. But you know, one thing I've learned about the falcons a lot of NFL teams that they really don't tend to get sentimental, and, you know, look at Matt Bryant's contract in the way that it set up is that he can get out of it whenever he wants to. I mean, there's really no like. The team has announced every year. He has an out every year, you know, hard penalty, you can look at the bit a little bit of money if it decided to cut him, but at the same time, his cat next year is four million dollars m my get right now is that they cut the deal to kind of get him back in the building for the season that they all kind of go much differently. Am I big question is, you know, considering the fact that he did have the health issues this year and again to hold him out for a few games? You know, it wasn't a it wasn't a loss season. So we don't really think about it as much but about if it really was kinda year we bought it was gonna be and the team was not able to find a replacement in costs them or two really close games playoff standing. If you're the team, you might think. Ooh. You know, we love that Bryant. He's been there for ten years. He's a wonderful kicker concede. At least he's a wonderful kick. Her. But at the same time, we we really are kinda curious where his health is going because he did struggle with health this year. And you know, it's not like most kickers really cannot cake fifty seven field goals. You know, fifty seven yard field goals every game the same time. It's like you had the situation where you wonder exactly the money's gonna be there for him next year. You know, I mean, there's one million dollar cap it. So I mean, they're going to say about three million they cut him. But you know, if you decide to retire that money would go, obviously, he they detain would recoup it, but a hundred curious to see what can happen. I don't I think the fact that Georgia Vecchio played so well in his absence makes it more difficult position. I think they didn't have anybody obviously bring him back. He's back, but we don't have to retire. The team's gonna wanna give Vecchio the permanent job. I mean, they have very similar career trajectories. Bryant bound. Around win the NFL and other leagues for awhile before he found that kind of home in Tampa Bay. And then he came to Atlanta, obviously, made the bulk of his career made him who he really is. So sometimes kickers take time to develop a maybe that's Vecchio is gonna head to bounce around the league, really find his footing, no pun intended. And they come to land in really be the heir apparent to Bryant. Because obviously they can't carry two kickers on the roster in a season where they're gonna wanna have everyone can have to really make that push again. So every curious this will go on not to give you too much kicker talk. But I think that's a big thing will game as you wonder exactly what's going to happen with Bryant because I think that's one of the grand mysteries of the off-season. For lesser extent. Tevin Coleman have played his last game. The falcon yesterday he said a really nice into the year. You can probably tell he really is very focused on this idea of I'm about to be a free agent teams are going wanna see that. I can go out there and be a lead running back because he wants to get paid like running back. I think he will. And I think that's going to be his last game here. I will I will say to give early prediction. I think Tevin Coleman will leave Atlanta and will pursue the some of floated around the jerk McKinnon tied contract at San Francisco gave McKinnon after he left Minnesota. They're very similar situations. Coleman's dangerous player when he is used correctly. He has value as a runner as a receiver and info teams really dum value that so I don't -magine he's going to be back and then just on hardy may have played his last game without gun. He's obviously a guy who has never really etched in that third receiver role land. He probably hoped he would dozen sixteen that was gonna be his time to do that within the emergence of Taylor. Gabriel kind of put that away for a while. I think that hardy will also leave Atlanta. I think he's gonna wanna try to find a team that will give him more to do. I think he's a valuable patient guy at he can really be a factor particularly on third down. I think he can be a guy that can be a good special teams player and be that receiver. You just kinda of his clutch factor. I think to the Atlanta never really utilize properly. I think he's a better player than Atlanta's showed. But then you'll get receiving chart and it's Julio Jones Calvin Ridley new. I mean, there's not really any room for him here to be more than what he was. And you know, the team I think it's a lot more to Russell gauge in the future Martin hall. The hot mic insists on him. Imagine he'll be back. I think hardy wound up leaving after the season. And then a big another big name victim easily. You know that? Aaron t contract with go in at the beginning of the league year. And they're going to make a decision where they're gonna release him or not or try to redo deal with him that can lessons much lessons cap it because if you're paying twelve million dollars, he's a top pass rusher. The Beasley has really kind of faded into more of a rotational guy as years of gone on. So there are some big names that may be playing their last game now Grady Jarrett may be a free agent. But at the same time imagine that deal will get done before the league year starts they really can't imagine that they would like Grady hit free agency. I think that's the deal that will get done very soon, and then get guide like Bruce serve will be free agent. I imagine he'll be back. You'll also have someone like Logan Paulsen. Who you know? I don't think will be back. But I think he's been a good player for the team. I would be happy to see him return in that guys. Like Ryan Schrader in Robert offered and Brian. Pool who kind of have people wonder whether pools the tender extended to him or he'll become a free agent or maybe they might release Schrader or release offer. You know, there's just a lot that can happen. I think with the roster. But I think, you know, the only one I felt really confident in saying that don't think ten Coleman's gonna come back. Yeah. I think you're right. And I think the main reason why too is these last couple of weeks Brian Hill has really stood out. I wish they would have given him more Terry's than they did he only had twenty attempts, but he had a hundred and fifty yards off of them into games. And you know, he finished the season, obviously, he had less attempts. But he finished the season with seven point nine per carry. I mean, that's a pretty good number even with it only being twenty twenty attempts or whatever. So, you know, I imagine it'll be Freeman ITO Smith the backup, and then he'll still probably get on the field just to give free Minna breather. And then you know, if Bryant hills your third running back based on his play towards the end of the season. I think falcons are pretty good. It just at that point. It makes really no financial sense to bring home in back. I mean, I I like him. And you know, I hope he does. Well, I think he'll probably end up on a team. Like, I don't know. Maybe the jets or the colts or something one of these teams that could use his talents. But yeah, I'm pretty sure we've seen the last. I would be shocked. I would say it's probably like a ninety percent chance that Coleman's gone. I I don't I just don't see it happen. It would really shocked me compared to all the other agents. Yeah. I think that's the best way to look at it as there's no need, and it's not the I'm sure they'd like to keep him if they find the right price. But I imagine what will happen more with what happened with Adrian clayborn. I think the falcons will say, hey, we appreciate your time. Here. We think you're great falcon, here's an offer that we have. And I think his camp would say no that's enough. We're gonna see around the league. What else we can find imagined? Another team will step up and make that deal. So I think he's been a great falcon he's been really fun to watch especially in Shanahan year to such an electric unit by I feel like now he's will be better nece. Nell swear up in San Francisco to everyone McKinnon guts, I know they gave McKinnon a contract, but you know, familiarity with Cal Shanahan in McKinnon little injury there. You know, I think he'll go somewhere in definitely be good. I think the falcons will miss him less than they miss. Like you were mentioning clayborn. I think left the bigger hole in the falcons expected where Coleman leaving. I think the falcons will be fine. I don't see that. As a big issue. Getting Freeman back as long as healthy. Yeah. I think that's the best way to see. He's he he will have a good career elsewhere. If he is used properly, I think if you want him to be a guy that just runs between the tackles every single game. You're not using improperly. You know, getting him out in space getting him involved in the passing game. Like he has certain things about him. That are really really really good. But he also has limitations. I think if you don't try to coach around those limitations, you're not gonna get the best player out of him. But we'll see where does obviously team has some decisions to make some other guys. And we may have seen some final games without can uniforms. But I think we'll have some returns like, Bruce. And I think he'll be back at think that they'll be back. Yeah. He does. He really well down the stretch in house one exact guys in in the league. And you're probably going to get him. We talked about this last week where he he's been productive even with his age. He's been productive. You could argue he's been maybe the silent darkhorse MPP on the defensive line. Just because you know, I'm a big Jack. Offered fan. So he's already wanted in. My is obviously, but grew servants, you know, he he didn't really need a learning curve when he stepped in. 'cause he hasn't been with the falcons all season the raiders cut him. And then he ended up with the falcons, and he took I I can't remember who it was he passed on. I think it was the patriots. And I don't know I wanna say like the eagles, but that's probably wrong. But he took he he went to Atlanta because he he's he took the hometown discount pretty much. He wanted to go home. And he finally is in he's used to Dan Quinn. I don't imagine. He's gonna want, you know, buco bucks to remain falcon, I think they'd get a pretty friendly deal with them. So I would be he would be the free agent where I'd be. I mean, taking Grady Jared out of the question. I would be shocked if Irvine's not back with the team. Yeah. I think that's the most likely spot for him to land. I mean, he succeeded here. He's back. I don't think he's gonna wanna. Try to find a whole nother team. And I think the team will give him a fair deal. I think there's plenty of money to bring preserving that guy. I'm not really I don't think he'll get more than five million on the open market. And I imagined the Brooks read is going to be a cap casualty. That's one early prediction making who they'll try to take some of Reed's money and give it to urban to make sure these back. So I imagine that's where that's going to go. But we'll have much more later in the season about what they'll do with these offseason moves, but you know, one last thought I'll have about the Tampa Bay game. So we get into the coaching things that have been made at I think that it showed the steam still believes in the culture in still believes in the brotherhood mentality. The Quintas put in place because if I'm being very blunt here this team had nothing to play for them to come out and have such a comeback. Like, this means that they trust our coach. And I think this team has been very open vocal about their belief in Dan Quinn that they realized amp quince belief in them. I think sometimes I get Quint peg it's. Trouble when he puts way too much faith in a guy that doesn't need to be out there. And I think that's something Quinn is gonna learn more into his career as a head coaches at. That's not always the best way to do it. But you know, I really I believe in Dan Clinton. Always will. I think he's a wonderful head coach. I think he has limitations like any head coach does than I imagined that you know there. He's made one big move. We'll talk about here in a second. I think will help him tremendously and will allow him to give some other responsibilities. Elsewhere. We really good. But yeah, I think this win is it hurts her draft standing on that crazy about that. But at the same time it gets reaffirmation that this team still believes in in in the mentality. They're not falling apart. There's no problem in the locker room that in again, if you can keep that foundation in place, you can build a Super Bowl run people. That's one of the biggest things I think people miss in. What makes a team great is? They have the bond. They have that mentality that I love the guy next Google play, formerly hard. That's not just you know, just. Coachspeak? It's not just an ideal. It's it's something that fuels all the other things that makes it stronger in Atlantic and get that more cerebral aspect in the health setback in. I think they're gonna be okay again, you can never really know what's going to happen with health knock on wood. But I, but I believe in Quinn. I think that this team believes in Quinn. I think that's why you didn't see him being laid off on black Monday is because this this organization, I think knows that he's the guy lead them. But having thoughts before we hit into the big part of our conversation with the new coaching changes. You mean on the bucks game? You're not no not a whole lot. I just like I would say before I think I think it was a good way to end the season. And it's you were saying the players, you know, we mentioned it last week. What we wanted to see in the bucks game was effort. And we definitely saw because like you were saying they were losing. And they came back in one which isn't something we're used to in Atlanta. But it happened. And it was a good way to you know, left you feeling optimistic. I think definitely. So we'll see what happens. I completely agree. There's plenty. I think to be happy with going ahead while the season was quite paltry while it was a poor year in very disappointing year. But when you had disappointing years occasionally teams will want to make transitions at the coaching level on the NFL is sincerely won't be highest turnover jobs in all of really the workforce. I mean, there's just one of those things where people they just like the rotate people to get. New voices in fresh ideas in place to try to book special seasons when Super Bowls and help develop at talent to be able to achieve those things in the falcons of made some big moves they opted to keep Angwin. That's something that I'm gonna live folks expected. What happened is something? I was hoping would happen. And seems like that is exactly what has happened. But the team has fired these occasion, it's offense coordinator Marquand men wells defensive coordinator special teams, coach Keith Armstrong. So right now the team is going to be looking for two new coaches to kinda help run things because Dan Quinn has taken over as defensive coordinator. And I think this is a big plus for the falcons because it allows them to take a guy who has been really successful as defensive coordinator he called the plays in the biggest the most successful stretch. Falcons football. I've ever seen came when Dan Quinn was calling the place because ride around the end of that November. Season. A carried into the two thousand sixteen the Super Bowl year the cured in December the playoffs and during that stretch he elevated what was really not a very good defense in the one of the league's hotter. You know defenses. It was going out there and making a lot of really great plays in the competition was always fierce. But especially in that playoff run. You look at what it is the Seahawks and the Packers they completely shut off down. And it was just incredibly, you know, rewarding to watch a defense. It really had not been the stork lever. Good in terms of their doing in sixteen. Do what they were doing. And I don't think the defense has been is good sense. I know that in seventeen they actually had a good year. But some folks will tell you those numbers were inflated that they really weren't that good that if you look at the Devi away it was more middle of leak, but I think right now our may have been like twenty second or something it was really like not high at all. But you'll get what happened this year. They lost all of their communication leadership on. Offense. It's hard to coach around that. But I've always felt this. I've said this a lot that the best person to coach the bathrooms defense was gonna be Dan Quinn. This is always how it was gonna go. They've needed to get him in place to make the play calls to make this happen ever since that sixteen year. I wish that he had just taken over the place. But I think he believed a man. Well, I think you right to they most coach, but I think that you know, he'll get an opportunity. Elsewhere. I wish him all the best. But for the Atlanta Falcons, the best person to call the plays with anklet, and I have long bought that. And I'm very happy to see that they've made that same assumption themselves and have been put him back in charge of Ryan the plays. And that creates some other, you know, obstacles will have to climb in terms of running the game time management and trying to just Quinn in doing that full-time. But at the same of the same idea, I think this is the best thing on the field team. Can do I think this is where Quinn is best. Utilized in their plenty of coaches who are able to balance calling the place and running the schematics and Bing. That Quinn show that he can do that. So I think that he's got absolutely everything he needs to succeed there. But I imagine a bring somebody else end w as a really good piece up now about them bringing a game situational coach the Rams unsung similar Jedd Fisch, Sean McVay. So we'll see what happens there. But you know, how do you feel about Quinn taking over the play? Does it excite you? Or are you more reserved? I mean where you kind of thinking on this move. Yeah. I mean, while you were talking I was thinking about what what I thought. And it it was like you were taking the words, right? From my brain his best, you know in twenty sixteen as you were mentioning when he took over south is defense was crazy like they they were great until obviously, I won't dive into it. But in the Super Bowl in the second half, you know, they had probably three of the better quarterbacks in the NFL, you know, especially at that time not looking themselves in Russell Wilson Rogers. And then Brady like they weren't looking themselves. And it was perfect. So I'm out the mystic about getting back to that. I think it was a great move. I don't see any reason why he would have needed to bring somebody else in his defense. His guys, you know, this is this is what he came to Atlanta for to give us a defense. So you know, I'm up the mystic about it. But I can't I can't really add much more than I think you said. Exactly what I was thinking. So. Yeah. That's about you know, I think the best way to go forward with it is leading Quinn do this. And I'm very excited about the potential of what this has. I think that he's gonna appropriate took a more close look looking at coaching up defensive line themselves. But I imagine he's gonna get much more hands on with his team because I think he realizes that's what's going to take for him to be able to keep his job past night p like while. I think he is a really good coach. The falcons are gonna probably hit that coaching reset button after next year. Things continue not to go well in terms of the coaching. So we'll see what happens. But I think this is the move he needed to make took cement his place over the next few years. I very much open. He finds that success there. Also, I mean, the big thing everyone's talking about where we probably need to really put some good focuses the offense coordinator move, a strategic has been like go. He was here for two years. Struggled a lot in seventeen really was kind of tumultuous. This year for him getting acclimated. Showed a lot more promise in two thousand eighteen think a lot of us probably felt like he was safe to stay here after that Washington game. But not since then they really looked well on offense until that lasts three games of the year. But I think that he lost his job in those five games when they win against a lot of these really good defenses in the offense kinda shut down. If I had to lay out my idea for y think this was the right move. I wouldn't have said this in November. But I feel confident saying this now is at strategic really struggled against good Beavis. And I think the offense just from a Jekyll and Hyde almost when they had all this talent that they really struggled. You look at that stretch where it was Cleveland, Dallas New Orleans Baltimore Green Bay. And they just didn't look like they were able to move the ball barely a know that they had struggles on the line. But there's a point where they also has a lot of other talented people that were able to make moves and they didn't use. Improperly in the coaching just was not there and you can't afford. I think to win a Super Bowl or to contend for Super Bowl every time you play good defense. You can't do anything. Like if you're just hoping every week that you don't have to play talent. It's better than you. Sometimes you just have to have you know, the coaching. That's there to meet the challenge of the day. I think that was Sarkissian big problem is that he struggled against a lot of these either blight defensive mines or these just incredible rosters that Pittsburgh game where they just blitz them every play just look like they couldn't do anything to contain it. And they had devante Freeman. I game to start struggled to use Freeman and Coleman. There's there was a very interesting statistic that kinda show that he really did know how to well us about those guys. Maybe that was more of like just kinda satirical incidence. But I think you know, what is good enough for the falcons enemy. Good Nefer somebody else. I think if this were like the bills and are Qizheng was having this kind of season, you're more forgiving because there's just not a lot of talent rookie quarterback in there. There's really not a whole lot you can do. But the falcons have way too much talent to settle for just being decent offense that can be really explosive. It's bad teams. Because a lot of those take games they're putting up thirty plus points came against really bad defense again that saints game in the Mercedes, you know, been stadium earlier in the year was the only time I think that they played a really good defense in New Orleans and put up a lot of points ended this ending Washington. But Washington faded down the stretch, it's kinda confusing. You know, I think that's the game. He was very inconsistent. And when you're that inconsistent. With such a good offense. The matter with injuries are there's to me now on you can do to justify continuing to have the keys that car. I think and I think that you know, I wish him the best really do Circasian is. I think very talented coach, I think he'll be very well when back maybe I've been to college, and you know, Tennessee's got a job opening Brown coordinator, imagine, it's Moore he may land. But I don't know. I'm very curious to see where he'll go a wish him all the best. But at the same time, I think that this is the right move to the falcons right now to part ways. Yeah. I think you're right. And you know, it wasn't consistent because you know, they finished twenty seventh in total rushing yards. But then they finished fourth in total passing yards. You know? I it. There's no, you know, average there. It's just kinda like you're you're heavy passing. But you're struggling with the run. And you know, it's it's pretty much been like that for two seasons. You know, it's weird. You know, I hate to see that Ryan have to get another offense coordinator seems like it's like a something happens every two years. He's getting a new offense coordinator. But one thing I wanna say to is if you're kind of on the fence about it, you know, obviously, they talked to Matt Ryan they had. I mean, you gotta hope I'm pretty much assuming they did. Because I don't think you get rid of his offense coordinator without actually getting his opinion. And I'm sure he's used to it by now. Where whoever you know, there's been reports of Darrow Bevill or maybe kubiak or maybe they're cutter coming back, and that's somebody who met Ryan's familiar with. But they all talked to him. And maybe he was on the fence about it. I don't know what they said. But I'm often mystic about what they bring in. But you know, he he was it's hard to judge. If he was actually that good. Like if he was good if he was just average or what? Because like you were saying it's like trying to think of a good metaphor. It'd be like putting me behind the wheel of a NASCAR race car or something. It's like, yeah. I can go really fast because that's what the car does. But does that make the actual good racecar driver? You know? It's like get us on go karts, and that's one thing. But you put me in a net a NASCAR vehicle, and obviously I'm going to go fast. So it's kinda hard to judge if he had this production with like, you said the bills or something, obviously that means he's. Good. But anybody who's got Matt Ryan who's who had a nother season basically another MVP season, but because of people like Patrick Mahomes, and obviously the balconies record. He's not going to get that much credit for it. But he had another MVP type season. Julio led the league and receiving yards. Yeah. Rush. The running back game was not good at all. But the offense worked if still finished in the top ten in overall yardage. But you know, I wish in the best lot of fans where sitting there beating the drums for fire Sark. I was just kinda like whatever, you know, doesn't really matter. What I think he's probably gone and sure enough he has gone, and hopefully, they bring in somebody because I think if you know, there's another failure. If you I guess you fired offense coordinator, so it's going to be a failure. But if there's another failure offense coordinator, it's gonna be hard to see in Quin stick around. And I think Dan Quinn, like, I'm very anti-fire. Dan. Quinn. I EV we've been spoiled with the success we've had even with this season. But it was pretty much injuries. But you know, I wish the best form, and he'll probably go to college. Like you said. And hopefully, you know, maybe he'll find his way back in the NFL. But I think this was good learning experience for him personally, and which the best, and you know, we'll see what happens 'cause it sounds like Atlanta's starting interviews at least with Bevill next week. So I guess within you know, sometime within the first two weeks of January. We might have our offense coordinator, we have our defensive coordinator as you said with the Quin now, I have no idea what special teams is gonna look like if you wanna talk about that because Armstrong's with since I can remember. So it'll be interesting to see what you know is brought in there. I don't know, man. It's it's very interesting because I think when you look at Armstrong the us here pretend eleven seasons the very long time to have one job in the NFL. I think it's like had with Mike McCartney Artie in Green Bay guys just in a position for so long. You get kinda stale. Sometimes it's just good for a career to just find new opportunity and go somewhere new in trying to work with new guys able to take some of the things that you really are good at and put them to use. And I imagine what he'll do he'll find a job. He's going to be a coordinator somewhere else in the league on special teams ino- short order. But I think right now for him is just gonna be a matter of finding that right up to and he was very good here for many many years. But I think that he just kind of got to a point where he just needs to change of scenery in needs to find the new place where he can go and be able to find success. So you wish more the best. Yeah. We'll see. What happens? I'm very curious to see exactly where they'll go with the spot, and I wish. Could make a list of candidates, but I'm not really familiar with the rise in rising talents of the special teams world. But yeah, I'm very curious to see how this goes. But you talked about the coordinator potentials of like, we need to touch, you know, touch the stove on this to the feel the heat or the conversations going kubiak is the favourite gear kubiak former Bronco's head coach Texans head coach former Bronco's conference a coordinator, he's been a part of four Super Bowl winning teams. A very smart mind guy who allot of people feel is one of the better offense coordinator candidates out right now a guy that runs the Shanahan system in those at well, his great success with it feels like that's the obvious guy. But I think the only thing about two things. One would be Elway. John Elway in that way. Probably trying to convince him to stay in Denver up into coordinator, whoever coach in staff have come in after they've been Joseph or I think could be more lie. Likely is the falcons wanting to go the guy that they are familiar with. And I think that's what may give Bebel a Dera bubble the heads up because he inquisitive worked together before in Quin of kubiak have not. So I think that if they wanna go guy who they really feel like will they can have a reporter with the devil may be more likely. But I think if you're just going accomplishment that there's no question that geared Kubeck is the better die. I this is who I want them to hire really pulling for this. I feel like it's the best move of the team at he and Ryan will hit it off pretty fast. I think he is a very veteran coach very season that will have any issue transitioning in the making Ryan even better quarterback than he is now. But at the same time, you can't really put a whole lot of stock into saying it's done deal or anything, obviously. Because he does have the strong ties to the Broncos organization where he still works in the front office. And you know, Elway once the team back on track. He knows the best of the coordinators. Gonna be the guy in the building. So I'm very skeptical that this will end up happening. But in report has been very adamant to say that he is a candidate and his guy that they are going to consider. So I will hope that's where it goes. And you know, Darryl level obviously, Seattle he made a very bad mistake in the Super Bowl Seattle may be rang that play reworked, but at the same time he also was the coordinator that won the Super Bowl and kind of helped couple Dan Quinn thousand thirteen to help get them at rings. So I don't know I feel like he's he's very accomplished coordinator in south east found a lot of success working with the quarterbacks. Ryan, I think he would be a good higher and has that working relationship with Quinn? But I think right now a big thing we have to look at is, you know, trying to figure out exactly, but they're gonna do with that spot. Yeah. I think you're right. And I'll make a quick reason. Like, I guess a pro and con for each one. And why I think it could or couldn't happen. So I with back, and I'd like to get your opinion on it too. With kubiak. You already said, okay. The con is the reason why it might not happen in probably won't is. Because Elway okay. I think the pro is he's such a veteran in calling offenses, it might be too. Tempting for him. I mean, okay. You can stay in Denver. Where key case keenum's your quarterback. Philip Lindsay is good. But he's a rookie so undrafted rookie. You know, we don't know much any got injured. We don't know much about what he'll do when you're too manual Sanders. Got injured there's not a whole lot on the offense to be excited about they lost their like, I think the one in two tight ends on their team to. But hey, kubiak look. Over at the falcons, we got who we got a legendary wide receiver Julio Jones. We have the greatest quarterback in consistory. Matt Ryan, devante Freeman who should be back healthy. You know, you gotta think that might be pretty tempting a Pro Bowl caliber center in Alex Mack. You know, he I think he could have more fun with it. It's almost like, you know, your friends saying, hey, come no fence of people who have like a Toyota Camry or something. But it's like, hey wanna come drive the Toyota Camry or do you wanna go drive? The for Ari like it might be pretty tempting to with cutter. I think it'll be how much input as Matt Ryan have because I think he enjoyed having cutter. I don't know that specifically. But I'm just saying the fact that he's even mentioned as a fame, you know, there's been multiple sources or whatever online saying that cutters favorite one saying that. Kubiak like a favorite of seems like a favorite of the consensus. I guess, but it seems like cutter is like will Matt Ryan will want him there the away from it. They he's been there before maybe they don't wanna back. I don't know you'd have to ask like Arthur blank or something. So I mean, what what what's your what's your opinion on that? 'cause I mean like with several I think he's to me if I was betting, and I'm not a betting, man. But if I was I would say, it's probably bevelled because it seems like they Quinn loves to get people. He's familiar with people in that peak aero bubble. I guess you could say they're like, you know, I don't know how friendly they are with each other. But they've you know, they they're familiar with each other. And it seems like the more likely, and he's also been a different source saying he's the he's the favourite for the job. So you know, it sounds like cutter and Bev lower both favorites for the job while everyone's hoping. It's biak. But the reason I think it might not be Bevill is maybe he'll get a job somewhere else. You know, or maybe they're just touching base. But they did say he was there for training camp. So you know, I feel like he's probably the lead dog between the three. But what do you think? I'm curious exactly what they wanna do. And I think that familiarity is going to be a huge thing because I feel like they are very very aware. And Matt Ryan and very adamant to say, look it bring it rests art. That's fine. If you gotta bring in a guy that I can work with which I think prevents them from going out and getting like, you know, on a younger hot up into coordinators kinda get thrown around. Actually, they do a good job. At marrano mcginnis Ranjha learning entire new offense that might work it might not work. I mean, really gonna have to do all this all over again. I'm comfortable with where I am you seen the numbers? I'm putting up in this game. Why can't we just keep we've got and his find somebody who's better able to utilize it then I feel like, you know, the guy that is best able to do that would probably be kubiak. But at same time, it's just like can you get kubiak here or will Quin wanna work with kubiak as opposed to someone already knows or maybe better feels be the goodness game. But even though I XE the clear advantage guide really come into being run at scheme. And I imagine that they can do that keep shout for another year who can help him transition in the working with kubiak. I feel like they've worked together a lot of Houston. So it's like you feel like it's just such a perfect fit. But at the same time perfect perfection usually doesn't settle in with any NFL teams. It's hard to get all of the all of the things that you want to happen. Lineup magically. So I feel like right now there is a very tough conversation. But the team to have about you know, what they're gonna do here. And I imagine what have a couple of other candidates come open on exactly know who they'll be. But you know, I think you'll have other guys that will be interested in this job that they're gonna wanna take their time to interview the right person. But I d- lead, you know, who would know said that hey, this search Mako kinda fast. Maybe they wanna get the same settled. Now in go ahead and get started for nineteen. They get him in the Bill. They can talk about breakdown the film that happens here, you know, at the same time, they hire a guy like a cutter or you know, a babble. They may have other guys on the positional side. They wanna bring in the you'll have new coaches hired a new guys like, oh, this is a very big a huge decision, and we know three candidates right now between kubiak level cutter. Again, don't don't look past cutter because he has worked with Ryan. But three seasons I could see very easily. Ryan saying bring back dark men dirt work really well together, and I did well under him. And I know that even though we might have to change the scheme round a little bit. I know I'm gonna have to relearn everything and can take what I've learned in the Shanahan offense and put that into that to a better quarterback than when we last brand it. So we almost went to Super Bowl cutter as a coordinator. Lest we forget in two thousand twelve you know, they were claps away. Unfortunately from wanna play the ravens. So I think that all of these guys would bring good things to the table. I think it landed will get the guy that they need for this job. I you know, I feel like in our heads. We have a vision of what we want. But I think he just contrast the team to make the decision that they think is best for them at the same time. They didn't do that in two thousand seventeen with sorry. I don't think that they made the best higher than it was late in the coaching cycle. But at the same time, it's like you could have gotten someone better or could have maybe kept someone from Shannon staff. It's a difficult thing to really really look back on. But. Same time bay. No, they've gotta find the right guy. This coaching staff is dependent in this era of football is dependent on this higher going. Well, this is a major major decision. And again, I think that it's very, you know, fine to want to get this done quickly. But I hope that they take their time enough and get enough interviews in and don't just hire their first idea because I feel like they need to have those ideas challenge and really get a good, you know, group of folks in to do the interviewing so we'll see how it goes. We might know whether next time we do a podcast who the offense coordinator is. And we talk about that, of course. But right now kubiak cutter ambition or the three guys to keep your eye on all would be available for the position if it came to them, and they were able to accept it. So you know, an will follow the special teams searches. Well, again, I imagine the probably promotes on defense or put a higher leadership position in there. The kind of help can be a steward to help. Dan quinn. Kind of be like a. Code even coordinator in terms of you know, helping something other duties there on the who that would be. I'd say watch Jeff over. I think that's a guy who they really value them promoting him just enough. But at the same time remorse as experience on defense. He's in the head coach may be that they will put him back in more of a defensive role. I'm not sure, but they've got a lot of good guys in house that could help Quinn kind of lead that effort. So we'll see how it goes. I'm I'm excited to see where they go with these moves, I have my ideas of what to do. But maybe they have different ones. And I'm willing to see where the what those are. So I think that gets us. That's the conversation. That's going on around the old falcons campfire right now, you know, coordinator change is gonna look like and the big ones. So you know, all out Hollick see where we're going with it. We got a coaching tracker lots of up to the minute stories about what the big news is. And you know, where that's all. Going. So be sure to you know, keep your ground and follow along. But I think that will wrap us up this episode of the colleagues post game podcast with pre shit. You listening to a bit of a longer addition since we've got locked talk about. No Evan please tell everybody where they can find you in that which working on. Yeah. Preachy you have me on again been a great season. And we'll see what off season brings by the time. You're listening to this. You might actually know who often coordinator is I don't know. But you can find me on Twitter at Edinburgh 'field. And also, I run the Falco hall IX Instagram account, and you can follow that at the. It's the falcons like between the and the Falco hall IX underscore, so yeah, that's pretty much it. Well, Evan Peggy so much for coming on. 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