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Sneaky in Seattle

First Take

36:29 min | 9 months ago

Sneaky in Seattle

"And now joining us, we have Damien Woody I. think he knows a thing or two about what it takes to make it on the offensive line. So Damian welcome to the dysfunctional todd. Hold on. Tie. And Jacket. Stephen a check out that blew. It looks very nice. I don't give a damn about. Charlie you understand forgiveness. Christmas blue shirt on. please. Leave man. Man I'm looking crooked as well. Right come on me. Audi which I'll do what you laid it broke. Okay Quinton Nelson. He will be guarding new colts quarterback Philip Rivers, which is still very odd to say if you ask me but Max what do you think Philip rivers is going to be able to do for the whole season? I don't I. Don't know if he's an upgrade over Brusett I guess. So he's familiar with what they're doing and he spent most of his career as an excellent excellent quarterback but he won last year. It's not like I've never seen him take dips in his career and then recover but his age I don't think you could just assume he's going to recover and be a great player again I think once upon a time, he was a great player I had high hopes. For Philip rivers a couple of years ago when they traveled to Foxborough, he looked like a deer in headlights and then last year it was no good at all. So let's say people are right and he fits well and everything, and he's better than percent and the colts improve but by how much exactly do you think? By a game or the eight next year or something like that. Yeah Quinn. Nelson I agree like when you will get that draft, who's the best player in that draft? Barclay was the best running back prospect ever, and when you consider size everything, you can do and every rookie season he had a little bit banged up. And he still has a chance to be an all time. Great. The best we've ever seen right you still can't say he's the best player in that draft. You know there are lots of Mick Fitzpatrick and others, lots of good players but Quinton Nelson is as good at least as anyone in that draft, he is a beast, a whole lot of right out the gate. And well worth the investment draft. Capital. But and Philip rivers five years ago. Yeah I'd say, well, you gotta look at the Colts Super Bowl contenders. I don't see this guy that and I don't see them super. Bowl contenders. For for me I do I listen. I think they would be super bowl contenders that they had better selections at the quarterback position I. Think when you look at Philip Rivers, he did complete sixty six percent of his passes lash night do twenty interceptions we understand that but he completed sixty six percent of his passes. Here's my problem with Philip rivers being a quarterback for the Indianapolis Colts he's a stationary target. He's just the slowest Tom Brady running anywhere. He's not scrambling. He's a stationary target. If you look at guys that have to deal with perset, they knew he could run with the football as well as throw it. Now, you couldn't throw it beautifully is rivers has even though I think that he's improved nevertheless, he can run with the football and this day and age is great as Patrick Mahomes is throwing the football. You also know he's a threat. To scramble with it, we know what? Lamar Jackson bring to the table and tons of his scrambling ability. The Shawn. Watson. We know what he can bring to the table in terms of his scrambling ability unless you're big band and you have the uncanny ability to ward off tacklers, extending plays as opposed to actually scrambling. Then I, think it's a detriment to an offense to have a stationary target as you at your quarterback position. Now he's got some good receives. You've got parents can't you got Ta Hilton Who's an absolute stud? We all know that. You've got Michael Pittman there now. Okay. You Got Jack Dollah Gitai Mall that can't be ignored coming out of that backfield running a football for you. You had a pretty good season last year. So they've got a multitude of weapons and their offensive line is study ish. We know what Quinton Nelson brings to the table in that regard and we know how lethal they can be. But in the end if opposing defenses get to salivate at the fact that they don't have to worry about a quarterback scrambling that they could get all up in. Them that he's no threat to run the football with the football whatsoever then I think there's going to be a tremendous talent challenge for frank right to to maximize or or to take advantage of you know just just to deal with for say, and I think as a result that leaves indy on the outside looking in. It's not because of the talents around Philip rivers I just think in this day and age, you cannot be a stationary target at the quarterback position less your Tom Brady and you're getting rid of the football insider two seconds. Well. Listen I think any teen from the AFC is going to have a hard time getting past the Kansas City chiefs in the Baltimore Ravens. A body but I do think Annapolis Colts can win the AFC south and here's what when you look at Philip Berber his best years when he was with the sand with the Los Angeles chargers was win with Frank being his office coordinator not think that synergy that they have with the. chargers, offense I think that's going to carry over to the Indianapolis. Colts let's I love the way how the culture built. They have one of if not the best office lines in the National Football League led by Quinton Nelson, they have to stood running backs in the backfield with with. Jonathan Taylor, they dropped out of Wisconsin in the first round this year, they got a couple of really good tight and the wide receiver position in is pretty good as well. So when you look at Philip, rivers listen he's not he's not Michael Vick out there I. Think we all know that but Philip rivers can be deadly with his arm and his accuracy are passing the football. Now listen last year he had twenty interceptions usually I would say a thirty eight year old with twentieth sepsis they're done but I think just being offense with frank writers the head coach, the way they're built officially I think definitely. Costa Win The AFC South and beyond that who knows. But any team is going to have a hard time trying to get trying to get out AFC with Ken City and Baltimore in in that conference. Damian thinks wanted him benched halfway through last season guys he ain't getting any younger go ahead. Sorry. Sorry. I was GonNa say thank you to Damian for having a little bit of faith in my colds. I mean it's it's been a rough patch need to get through this. So thank you for that, and now because Clinton Nelson is our number eleven primetime player I. Have a little trivia question for you gentleman. So pro football focus ranked Nelson as the second best player to start the season who's under the age of twenty five. So I ask you who is the first? Who are we going to for the money guesses? Jackson twenty-five well as Jacks, another twenty five. You said Mahomes Yeah. Make I. Did Doni and got it right you're the winter. Relations. Is the best quarterback under one hundred meaning like every quarterback Weber played. Question. To celebrate state forms surprisingly great rates. We gave his surprisingly greatly. Brass's. Despot a sad now passes. Brass you just go ahead allocate that. Is. Now, say the middle and. Just. Good neighbor. And the seventh-seeded nets fell to dame dollar in the blazers last night. But cares for could give Brooklyn, fans a little bit of hope they enter the first round against the raptors with the absences of Kyrie Irving and Spencer dinwiddie Liberte has stepped up in a big way during the restart Liberte has the fourth highest usage rate in the league behind only Devon Booker Janas and Luca Danni. And now, ESPN NBA David phys Dale joining us for the discussion our next year the nets have even more hope as Katie will return Kyrie Irving will return steven a Smith I gotta ask you are the nets destined for the NBA Finals Next? Season I believe they are I. Really really do because I mean obviously the Greek Freak and You know this could be standing in their way. Toronto is never a team led by Messiah you jury that you can underestimate. Look at the way that these guys have been performed particularly in the bubble when you look at Carousel and what he brings to the table Let's take into account what they don't have it that. They don't have kyrie irving they don't have Kevin Durant. They don't have Spencer Dinwiddie. They don't have Taurean trends. They don't have the Andre Jordan I mean my God and still they go out. And have competed the way that they have competed. They have shooter, they have scorers, they play hard they play together they do what they can, and this is without not one not two, but four five of different guys that could potentially start for them and so when I look at that and I think about the Eastern Conference and I think about the greatness of Kevin Durant because make no mistake he's great. He's one of the top. He's one of the top scorers in the history of the game of basketball kyri Irvine is an absolute showman this brother. Will put on a show for anybody you can contemplate what he might take away or whatever the case may be. But when you look at the talent that they have on their squad, I can't say enough about the job that Sean mocks is done as the executive this team Jim because if you think about it, the collection of talent, they had eight different guys average in double figures for them. This season period you cannot ignore that the Brooklyn Nets are clearly coming and one would argue they have arrived the moment Kevin durant steps on the court healthy. Well, that depends on Kyrie Irving Stephen. We were asked to come up with one word to describe Kyrie last year we're months ago and my word is radioactive because radioactivity powerful but you got a harness it or it can be destructive kyw reserving. There's no way around it mention eight different guys in double figures on not with Kyrie's claim point guard it's not going to happen Cairo, Irving has won a championship and has played great Rick under pressure in the biggest moments he's been great and he is a champion. Lebron James WHO's like a master at team chemistry? The sense that he can lead a group of guys to the Promised Land or pretty close to it you know he he understands how to make that work. But before Lebron got their curry didn't do anything and after Lebron left what happened and when Kyrie went to Boston you could say the same thing you just said about the nets you could have said about the celtics when Kyrie wasn't there and then when he got there, they didn't do any better in fact they did worse and then he got hurt and then suddenly they did better again. And then he come back. You swap him out for a guy who does a lot of what he does but isn't that in the locker room and they do better again and so the quest by the way did the nets do great when Kyrie was there he put on a show no doubt because I would argue he's the most skillful player who ever lived when you think about what we can do what on offense what's the weaknesses game? I'm not talking about the wisdom to know when to apply everything I. mean the actual tangible skills his handles or good at least as anyone who ever lived he finishes in the paint below the rim as good as anyone ever lived, he can shoot the lights out. He can pass the ball when he chooses all those things and he can kill you in the clutch. So why are his teams getting worse? The Nets have an excellent thing going you can see Lavar is a baller. You can see they're well coached and they try hard not a demoralized team. Can Re of Kadian Kyri, come back, can. Help lead that group and put his own ego aside when he needs to or use it to leave the group or will he be a destructive force? That's what it's. GonNa come down to if he can harness that radio-activity that's a nuclear power not they will self destruct next year so. We'll. Take about it is that Kyri. Arben. Disrupted may be disrupted a Boston team that didn't have a Guy Katie on him but when he has played next to a superstar, good things happen for them. So I think the situation is gone spelled out. Alternately if these guys can stay healthy. If they can all stay healthy stay together I agree I think that the nets really have a great chance of playing in the NBA finals. I think that's really what does not come down to the office of firepower on the team. That you know the speed of. Play making. The spacing, they are too legit. Defensive Lob threat bigs. I, really think that they're gonNA be a tough team to deal with. and. You talk about when the championships they got two guys that's experience that and so you with that at the book is. An all of those guys being hungry to play, I think are going to be a really dangerous dangerous staying. For making the finals. Also think one of the things that we all have to pay attention to is that it's not just about you know we could talk about the radio activity with Kyrie Irving. Let's remember he's champion and let's remember that this is a brother. Then an NBA finals when he was healthy, he averaged twenty seven in one, twenty, nine and another Kyrie. Irving is the truth in the have and I know you're not saying otherwise Max I'm just saying that when you compare it to Boston remember Boston have the depth that that the Brooklyn Nets appear to have that's Number One, number two when you pay attention to the Brooklyn Nets undestand sometimes sometimes we look at guys and their talent and what they bring to the table we don't pay attention to what's quiet to beat them. For example, they lose the game last night to Portland. Do you know why lost Portland because as Garrett temple was telling his teammate I don't give a damn of Michael Jordan standing in the corner leave him alone God Damian Lillard because this brothers going to pull up from the parking lot. Okay. What I'm saying to you is that it takes. That and so as a result, they will willing to leave a grant opened. They were willing to leave a mellow open. They were willing to lay off a CJ McCulloch with back issues to some degree, etc etc. If you're not going to get steph curry and Klay Thompson, who do you really have to worry about in the NBA that is going to shoot you out of the game the way that Portland or golden state could potentially do so. So if you're the Brooklyn Nets, you don't really have to employ that level correct me if I'm wrong coach. Because the coach, you would know better than me, but you don't really have to do what they did. Last night till relying knows big God's those sizable forwards that have athleticism in the speed to get out and defend perimeter shot, and what have you most teams can't do what Portland did to them. Last night most teams can't do what? Golden. State when Stephanie Klee healthy could do what you could do every night and as a result I think that's why Brooklyn is going to be lethal because they got a whole bunch of do that can do some things. Kevin Durant as the ringleader. Totally, agree with you. I think that you know they got a ton of speed. You Know Kevin Durant hiree they have their own two guys that can do exactly what you're talking about Alabama of Golden State teams like that. So not only do they have the speed to cover a lot of ground to be able to guard your unique ways you're going to have an onslaught coming back at you. You can't make a mistake because careers that kind of guidance talked about raise from anywhere he can get it going. He dropped fifty. We know what can you do so with that in mind? You know that you can go out and be reckless and aggressive and try to take out the best player on the other team because now numbers just for matchup. Claiming K. D. comes back as some at some close approximation of his former self that almost never happens given the injury. Yes. But also Stephen A in terms of depth that was true on the Celtics. Why did they not lose a beat and even get better without Kai read? That's what I'm saying I'm not disputing coordinating they're saying about him as a place even talking about the. Destructive, force. He's had on team chemistry and that's what he's got high read. I don't think he's done winning championships, but he's got to figure that out with himself. He's got to get right. So that in the locker room, he can healthcare not on the court lead a of guys make them better than they would be without Katie is there That's why Katie is there like the coach said. Katie balances it out I. think that's what I re is always needed. He needs somebody there as good if not better than on some nights and that deals car re-balance I think and you know he didn't have that in Boston Boston was talented. Don't get me wrong that team was a good team playoff team a lot of young talent but he had act that counterbalance in a guy over there and then he looked at and said, okay, this guy I gotta look at him and respect him on the same level as I look at myself and I think Katie brings that in his credibility and his. Pedigree just an Lebron's data in Cleveland so. I think it's GonNa be fun to watch it come together. That teams just every night watching them festively Islambad three for everyone. To be. They'RE GONNA BE PLAYING FANS THEY'RE GONNA be pushing store numbers out there. All. Right. Yeah, I definitely think that adding those two superstars next season will be huge for the nets. But Stephen a like you mentioned, they still have a lot of things to be proud of this season in the bubble they've toasted points per game number of one, hundred, nineteen point nine, which is the fifth fifth highest in the League in that span. So that is something to be proud of. But we have another topic that we do need to move onto and we're gonNA stay in the Eastern Conference for this if some big news coming out of Chicago this morning, and that is that the bulls announcing that Jim Boylan has been relieved of his duties as head coach of the team. So David I'm going to start with you here I want to know your reaction to this news and also Or you may be interested in the position. That again. I said I want your reaction to the News Jim Boylan out as the Bulls head coach after just two seasons and then I ask. You know maybe you might be the next man up what do you think? Replace, masks absolutely. Thinking about it an open head coaching job in a major market when you're one of the most. You See. Bob Ross Shirt I've dot a son on the way. I. Do Notice is a stressful businessman and you've got to really be prepared to even think in those terms and you know obviously that was I just heard about it this morning from you guys from the from the producers so. You know what I know and I and I know. During. A work with Jim I feel for him. You know it's not easy. I just gone through myself. So No. Now, well, first of all. I asked to step in. I asked to step in for a reason before I was. So rudely interrupted because I did not want coach to answer that question because I wanted to answer it for him. Hale. That is not a job you want stay away from the job. Xactly Kim Bowl Mahnken income bowl but they don't have a lot of talent organization too many question marks the last dance with Michael Jordan didn't help the organization's reputation golf foreman. Those voices are going nobody needs to touch that job right now. Sorry that's a purgatory. Need to clean it up. It's this is no David deal for years. I'M GONNA SPEAK OF FOR 'EM, hell no, don't go nowhere that job you. Again the job somewhere else than taking this cargo Boe's job not to mention effect nobody wants to beat here from November to March because it's too damn cold and use. The beach, you know what? I'm summer the hell away from that job that simple. Max. What's your reaction? Saves -secutive. Bounced. Whoever the next person is going to get their own coach anyway, of course, they're gonNA make coaching changes. Chicago's been dysfunctional for a long time. Now, I agree with Stephen a about that it's a dysfunctional situation I and usually a fish rots from the head down if if the organization is bad from the head down, there's only so much a coach can do and we've seen this with the Knicks even that right now it seems that they have some better people in place more attractive to players, and maybe they're gonNA try and build a healthy culture. But with Jim Dolan there I doubt it will work long term. So I I agree with Stephen a about toxic franchises and Prudence of of good coaches who have brands where fans look them and go yeah I'd like that guy to be my coach being careful with what jobs they take I think coach Physio fall into that category. that. But I just think for me right now I'm one of those corny guys that's like coaches fraternity and and really care about the guy that's next to him and understand empathize with them and subtle. You know at the end of the day, like I said, seem that my my father Rossi served and my wife is pregnant with our first son together you know I I'm not even thinking in those times personally. I got to reach out to Jim, boyle and check on him and make sure everything is going out. I. Think the Bulls ultimately will get it together. They got some good young pieces of their. A lot of young talent. It is called Hell in the winter. But at the end of the day, if you're baller put together a good team which they have in the past, you know it's always nice when Chicago good team. EXCEEDS AS CHICAGO. You GotTa give credit where credit's due because it takes them about a month to throw out crying out loud. That's how Dan. Chicago okay. Used to being they got. To live in the North Pole, Lake eight Chicago ain't trying to. Well look I have a whole list of stats right now of what Jim Boylan I will say it was not able to accomplish during his two seasons in Chicago believe you. He his longest winning streak. Last season was two games. So I'll just leave you with that. It's it's not pretty it back. that. David, thank you so much for your time. We know you're not up for this job but I think Stephen might be a good option as your agent he seems very interested. I got a call Stephen this because he can do some stuff out. Somebody come up in their seats. To your. Wife or girlfriend come. It will go on. Are you advocating for conjugal visits? The muscle tissue asked the question Yes yes. Yes. Yeah. Yup the. Bobble create some serious struggles and I cannot wait to hear Stephen React to this one. So get this during a normal year. NFL. Training camp players are usually forbidden from hosting visitors in hotels dorms, and you know during a pandemic it's no exception and once hawks rookie he learned the hard way the wade rookie cornerback, Kema civil rand earlier this week after he was caught on video tried to sneak a woman into the team hotel and there are some really ridiculous details that go along with this story but I want to get your reaction before we get into those Damien Woody back here with US Stephen a no question I just want your reaction here. Well of all, I think it's just important. Rav. If there was. If there was ever a reason to be forgiving. For about somebody and they're transgresses. qualified. I mean, let's be hard on the brother. Okay I mean let let's understand that the NFL has engaged in cruel and unusual punishment just like the NBA has engaged in cruel and unusual punishment it ain't easy. dammit. It's not easy. All right and we have the heightened level of sensitivity. Now please don't get me wrong I. DO understand on a serious note why the Seattle needed to let them go. You got to send that message because it's not just about you. You're endangering your teammates and obviously you know you're endangering other lives not not just just self. So it was incredibly selfish in mature illit buys all those. Different things and I understand. But that doesn't mean it wasn't understandable. I mean we have to understand that these are very very difficult and unparalleled circumstances that we are asking these young men. These professionals deal with some are more disciplined than others and I'm here to tell you because I've spoken to a few of them even the most disciplined even the veteran evening people that have been around has a lot to ask I have said it before we have our lovely hosts usually hit charlie you know she's the matriarch of the show molly camrose I see Jalen rose with a frown on his face and body not a friend every. Day being Max know what I'm talking about. Daily. The brother singing every day he's he's. He's six out the new. Happy Happy Brad those you know I'm sorry I haven't seen. Mrs. Woody. It in a while. But you know what I know that Damian what he's always smiling Mac talent that brother. Brother got three beautiful daughters. Every day Max is the only time. You don't see maximize when he leaned forward reading something other than net military props up. Hey, he's smiling. because. He has some. You Tell Max. He got to stay away for weeks at a time to be a problem you tell woody. Were you know woody how many children you have? You you're wonderful family. I, mean you got about six seven kids winning. Come on another one right down for all we know turn around what he's got another kid. All trying to say is all I'm trying to say is Adam himself couldn't add I'm talking about the first ever created who walk and talk when God himself could not resist the temptation. Of A woman. We have. These young men to do and we have to be sensitive. So again, he needed to be let go and hopefully he's learned error of his ways. But all I'm trying to say is on a macro level those NFL players. Hockey players, those NBA players. In that bubble we are asking an awful lot of them and I want to sit up there and tip my cap to them for the sacrifices that they are making. It is cruel. It is clearly unusual if a whole ask and I applaud them. For the discipline that they've exercise because most of US could do. Well you know what the? Question I really having more ripe. The question I have is big. He tried he tried to sneak in in in seahawks gear. Like. This little rascals or or one of those like bugs, bunny some where they tried to get into the movie theater too little. So you got three kids sitting standing on top of the shoulders, install the trench coat on like how does that work or is this just? Is She just football player size I mean I see you know problem there I'm just wondering how did that happen? Did he really think he was going to smuggle in and people weren't going to mistaker for a member of the Seattle Seahawks? Is that what I'm understand she came in and full disguise like she was playing football. That's the best feeling I've heard about any sports story in a long time. MACs if you starve in a crack, will taste like a steak. It's hilarious. Damian. Let me try to bring a serious tone to this conversation because Lloyd Stephen as thickness saint completely off the rails ear and let's listen if. You will literally undrafted free agents coming into the national football league. Drafted free agent. And we know during pandemic if there was any group of player that was going to have a tough. It will it was going to be rookies particularly, the kinds that didn't get drafted so. Now only. Did you put your future in jeopardy but you also hurt the team? By being. Selfish to try to bring a female into the whole tail, and now you have paid for it with your job now like Stephen. Say. I get it I understand times are hard. We're in a pandemic. But May, you're trying to make a football team you work all your life to get to this point. And one. Night. One? Night. Trying to sneak you something has cost you a roster spot potential roster spot on the national football league roster. So how do you know one night? Damian? You you know you know what you're. Right he got this time who knows. I listen. Let me tell you something that has brought that down. Kingdoms. It is undefeated. But man, you gotTA. Have a little bit of self control to try to win. I. Listen I totally agree with you. That's why he deserved to be cut. You gotTA Exercise Discipline Self Control but excuse me, Father Tom is undefeated. Mother Nature is undefeated and data undefeated. All I'm trying to say is when the dust settles don't get me wrong he deserved his punishment but when the dust settles, are we go really sit here as men and say We don't forgive you. We don't understand. That's all Stephen. He got to sit home for now. If. If was a high draft pick. We'd be having this kind of discussion we'd be at right now so. I guess. Slap on the wrist right now and I wouldn't say a slap on the wrist. What I do think would happen though he would have got exposed and told doors. So he could be ridiculed and the public ridicule would dissuade for making the same mistake in the future because the roads Doronin, you understand what I'm saying you can't ask somebody spread neuronal but having said all of that in the end. We go sit up here and you know what we do. We're GONNA forgive Damian because. Damian? Is it fair to say I'm saying based on your point that if you're GonNa do what he did, you must be a baller. Oh. Yeah. You gotTa have. You. Know barely hanging on you gotta have some even Dan, you can't do it. Even then. You can't do it. That's why you've got to punish. You can't do it but we stay. I think long term we're GONNA forgive him. But the fact of the matter is this guy the hard way because if we had a job, he was successful making money think about how many more girls you would have gotten. So really the damage he did was to himself he's probably GONNA turn around take vow celibacy we'll see about that. Charlie Charlie we've seen man patients. We've seen men lose millions all the time over we've seen it. As, the COVID nineteen pandemic enters month number six in protest demanding progress and social justice and civil rights. ISSUES CONTINUE ESPN commissioned a survey to gauge the attitudes of sports fans from August seventh through. August. Ninth the polling company Tied Watch conduct an online survey of eight hundred sports, fans ages eighteen and over focusing on social justice and the return of sports while fans are certainly happy to have sports back fifty eight percent surveyed believed that the NBA season will be completed. So Max, what is your reaction to the fact that there's only fifty eight percent of sports fans who believe that the season will finish? I think that's shockingly low. The NBA's testing at zero percent like they're getting zero positive kofin tests in that bubble they've been doing beautifully and it's because I've said from the beginning Adam silver was the adult in the room. So soberly assess the situation gave everyone the medicine they didn't WanNa take including players. Everyone but everyone took it and as a result I think it's likely I don't think you know. Who knows but it's looking good. You should be cautiously optimistic that the NBA will crown a champion Stephen as the fact that only fifty eight percent I understand it they said about baseball football should be lower, put the NBA that's bizarrely low to me. What Max I completely agree with you not just on the NBA. But you know what? Shockingly Max I don't want you to think I'm actually give baseball a little bit of credit here as well. The National Hockey League has been exceptional as well. Give them credit and May and the NBA we're Major League Baseball get some credit. We know initially what transpired with the Florida with with the Miami Marlins. What happened with the Saint Louis Cardinals ever since then it's gotten considerably better now rob Manfred step. Then there was some additional safety protocol measures that were implemented but more importantly than anything else you saw guys. Selves more countable, and if you see that Matt and data successful as well, that's going to go a long way towards propelling the continuation of sports starting and finishing throughout the United States of America because we're going to see if the appropriate and necessary discipline is exercised and obviously leadership is collaborating with that. Then we're going to see a lot of success stories in the world of sports, and that's GONNA beneficial not to mention playoffs in a bubble. It'll help. Well everyone we've got to wrap it up here, but we had a lot to look through onto playoff start on Monday the NBA Max. Your Radio Star shows starts on Monday guys. It has been a lot of fun nice work. See. You later.

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02/11/2021 - Hour 1 - Urban Meyer Hasn't Learned His Lesson + Lakers beat writer Brad Turner

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02/11/2021 - Hour 1 - Urban Meyer Hasn't Learned His Lesson + Lakers beat writer Brad Turner

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So i'm good good. Good good that's making a positive out of This negative situation. That's what you gotta do. I'm not to waste his time. We'll never have this again. That's how i look at it absolutely. Hopefully we never will. You're right you're right no it is it is coming. You gotta be positive. Chris dubbing. I read the new york times this morning. Article and then a sixty percent drop like like things like yes like like. I mean it ain't over right in the right direction and people are getting vaccinated and all kinds of other stuff. I'm hopeful i'm hopeful that i get to go to russia in august. I'm hopeful yeah. That'll be nice if you can go. We all looking forward to the end this for sure but we got a great show for you the next three hours. Keep it locked right here. Fox sports radio the iheartradio app or series. Xm channel eighty three. We got brad turner. Who covers the lakers. Like a blanket but l. a. times. He'll join us at the bottom of the hour. Etta big win last night. I don't know if you watched it ride. But over time if third straight overtime game and lebron james came up with a big defensive play almost gave them the ball back at the end we threw the ball back in trying to save and went back doing well he had. That was a great play. 'cause he made up for a bad shot with a bad shot but he just. I don't even know if it caught the rim. He's like shot at the possession before that but Contested jump shot but anyway grew good win for the lakers. We'll talk to brad turner about that. We got alex. Shoot on the ones and the twos on atv themes on thursday. We got super producer. Rob g in the house and you heard him earlier all the update our man david. Gascon i rob. Let's get right into it. Big story today in the nfl. urban meyer. Who we all know was hired as coach of the jacksonville. Jaguars college coach legendary college coach. Or how state. Florida all that. Utah utah yes. He hired chris doyle as his strength and conditioning coach. Now chris. doyle was previously distressing conditioning coach at iowa for about twenty one year twenty years twenty one years something like that. But here's the problem. Chris doyle left. I was program after allegations of racism and bullying surface from the players from the players. He took a buyout. Like one point. One million dollars and you from that chris. He got rewarded. I yes he did. He shouldn't be five. They said he had incredible power as the strength and conditioning coach the players saying like. He's you know second in charge basically to the head coach and anyway that is the guy that urban meyer chose to hire as strength and conditioning coach in jacksonville. I got some serious thoughts. But i want to let you go first. What do you think. totally unacceptable. tot- totally unacceptable and urban. Meyer should be stopped immediately. I don't care what the owner signed off on. I don't give a damn about the general manager. I don't care if he vetted him and has a twenty year relationship with him. This is a good old boy network at work right here. No way no way no. How should the players allowed this guy to come in and be their strength and conditioning coach. Not a guy who according to players this supposed to be a brotherhood. Those young kids. Chris who came out and spoke out against him and the allegations. That ain't easy to do that. Means there was an issue. We need to listen to them. I should know my daughter went to. I don't think it was the prime one of their high school dances with a young man that ended up playing football that i won. He went there on a football scholarship. I don't know if he came out publicly and said anything but he supported the guys they did say stuff and his mom told me about the articles in in everything that when they came out. So you heard about it firsthand. Yes you know what you mean that there was something going on. Yes and i just think that this this is bad this is not one that urban meyer's quickey vetted him i know him. I have a close relationship. That's the good old boy network. Everybody's telling us chris. Oh eric be enemy. You know his past. That's probably why not get in the head coaching job. But you gotta hear dan right i me. What is this rarer bowl. I want to players. Hello is this on. You have our band together. Step up to urban meyer. No we're not going to accept this whereas the union whereas other people to speak out come on man so much has changed in this country. We're gonna let this happen. No chris there was an actress today. Did you see the one from star wars. Cheat she was talking about dealing with something like social media is like the holocaust or something. They dropped her. She's not going to be on those doors anymore. Because it's like related some situation we're dealing with now holly culture or something like that right right like like what this this. This is worse than the old boy network. This is worse than that. We seen a lot of hires this year from the old boy network connections relationships. This is beyond that because this guy is accused by numerous african american players of racism or at the very least racial insensitivity now. There's nothing of him calling players the in word in any of that thankfully but just the way. He carried himself just the way he talked down to the players. The players fell. It was culturally insensitive and racially based in a sport that is seventy percent african american in the nfl. Urban meyer chose this dude to hire for strength and conditioning coach. I'm sure there are plenty of their strength and conditioning coaches. Who could i got the job done. I'm sure he'd been twenty years at university of iowa. Are they anything special. Tell me what championship they won. Since the big was your grateful. I mean right you not i mean even if it was alabama clemson that wouldn't excuse it but i'm just saying it's not like this do you know can be that great if you're at iowa for twenty years and you'll do getting pushed all around the field but beyond that i'm taking it a step further shad khan the owner should step up right now and tell urban meyer. You were not hiring this guy. You are not hiring. Chris doyle and if you do if you insist already then there's the door there's the door are been meyer because i don't know i mean again. It's just a matter of principle but beyond that we don't know that urban meyer is going to be a great coach. Your there is the door. Did you can chris or issue but both the y'all will not be here running my team and if that does not happen then i'm with you that the players should step up and not just the black players all the players but at least the black players then naked step up and here's the thing but it should be to owner. I though is shouldn't even get to the players but if it does get to the players rob then urban. Meyer's got more trouble because how in the world are you going to coach a team of players who strong armed you and they know that you chose the guy who at the very least has racial issues whether he's a racist or not they know you chose him number one. Let's i know they had to sit out. Which is what they should do. Sit out to get you to get rid of that guy. I'll coach them. How you you already are used to having all power as a college coach. You're not gonna have that in the nfl. Have you ever had to do that. Chris in your life stand up for something that you know is not right. I had a circumstance like that at the daily news. When i was young and i was covering the net and i was doing a good job breaking stories. Everything and i'll knicks rider left to go to the new york post and i pick up news day. Chris and in the paper says that they're going to hire a guy from the post to cover the knicks. I read this in another paper. You know how it goes in new york. Everybody who covered the nets moves on the cupboard in knicks of the training ground for and then you cover the knicks right. So i'm like what wait a minute. What about me. who's this guy. I just kicked ass for three years on the nets. i'm ready. how come. I'm not getting the opportunity. Sports editor was trying to him in hard. You know what. I did chris. I went over his head. I went to the boss. And guess what the ball so agree with me over the sports editor round. This is what i'm just saying. Is that you gotta understand where you stand and as players man that owner and say no way no how i and the owner should be to do it on his say. The story owner of the already signed on the. He'd better backtrack the he'd better backtrack if the has to come down to the players fine but it shouldn't should be too old and he's a minority owner to imagine that like a slap in your face. I know he's not black chris. But it's just this guy comes with this. this is the guy. You're falling on the sword for chris as a higher absolute this is the guy absolutely urban. Meyer i'm shaking my head. I don't know urban meyer. But my god. And i've given urban meyer the benefit of the doubt. We know all the problems that florida we know about the zac smith domestic violence album at ohio state. When you supposedly didn't know but your wife knew at your wife knew right. Oh come on you probably. I'm sure you probably knew. And you hired this dude on your staff. I mean and i met urban meyer at fox and he seemed like a fine guy and it was nice conversation but my goodness do you have any morals beyond winning. I'm serious like what is going on. Don't care i'm not saying this has to be a a death for chris. Doyle like he can never coach anywhere again but he has not gone through any type of sensitivity training culturally cultural competence classes. Anything he needs to be shown the way you were doing is wrong and you need to change up you need to apologize come out and own it and then you can move on but this the owner side shad khan. You need to tell him. No chris doyle otherwise you will be my football coach because i just watched in keeping it real keeping it real real. I just watched two black offensive coordinators in the super bowl. Look great. I'd bowls. Shut down an offense that no one else has been able to shut down because i i can do without you urban. So it's either you or chris doyle which one eight seven seven ninety nine on fox. Eight seven seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine your turn away. 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We're coming to you live from the farmers insurance fox sports radio studios call farmers today for quote all right eight seven seven nine thousand nine on fox what do you think urban meyer. This created and sara lee sticky situation in jacksonville. I say the owner needs to make sure it is higher does not happen and if that doesn't happen then i'm with rob that the players need to take it into their own hands but i say how in the world are going coach but team has strong armed as they should. If it comes to that what do you think eight. Seven seven ninety nine on fox. All right. Let's kick it off with rick in the bronx as da owen. How bronx you're cup of fox. Sports radio is up. Oh my god that through on the football a basketball guy so you know point guard. I used to play ball. You know years ago but i know my new york man. I know i know. I go all the way back. Problem or luau sending because boy okay anyway. Anyway i'm just so proud of y'all you know what i mean for standing up this. 'cause this is ridiculous i mean. We have two african american officer coordinators. That did a beautiful job. In the super bowl they represented us. You know one hundred percent and now a reminder comes with this come on rob. This is ridiculous just like this way no how no we accept it absolutely we. We can't know what is he thinking. Honestly what does this boy. Chris this is. This is one of those. This is one of your friends and you're going to stand by him no matter waht and as soon as i get a job i'm a hook you up and i don't care what they say you're coming with me. That's what this is 'cause you're doesn't make sense like damn point of a higher you just get into a place. Try to grey shade yourself. Chris with the wires. I'm rob this is to me. This is bath. Urban meyer if older or the players do what we are saying. They should and what they really should do. How's he gonna. I mean this is in college. Do you can't wait the scholarship papers in their face anymore. He's degree a players league right. It's not quite like the nba. But they have a lot more power than they have in college. Yeah he this. Is this crazy to andy in seattle. Urine neon couple fox sports radio. What's up and loved the show. Guys you bring it hard every day. Thank you brother please. Yeah absolutely my my point is is what is the timeframe for a second chance i mean do. We put a timeframe on that. He and that's a good question. Because i said this shouldn't be a death sentence for chris doyle but features like mike tyson. He for them. You know he's a long and went to jail and served his time. But chris doyle he has yet to acknowledge that he did anything wrong from what i've seen so that's the first step you got. You got a bunch of players calling you out even if you again. He didn't say to inward he. Didn't you know do something that might that race. His right right and even if he doesn't understand he was offending african americans. You got a boat load of that sad jedid so acknowledge what you did wrong. Even if it's only pr rob at the very least what do we do you go through some type of cultural sensitivity classes or something like that if we can say you went through something you learn something you changed. That's zun as he does that. I think that can be when we start the second chance process all right brandon in dallas. You're on the fox. Sports radio was up brandon. Hey what's up. Couple thanks for taking my call tonight. I but yeah there's two things i want to say about this And at first. I kind of changed my tune in just the past two minutes because at first i didn't think the players should have to speak up on this. I thought this is something that should come down from the ownership immediately but if he's not gonna do anything about it and if he's going to allow something like this then the players should absolutely stand up and say something and do something because like you'll say this isn't college these are grown men their livelihoods are attached to this a depend on this And auburn mayer has showed you know in the past ten years that i've watched him that he has a weak and his weak spot is doing whatever it takes bending over backwards to help out those at he has he's and ties us and speaks to a good old boy network regardless of the backlash. Because what they do you try to hide it and just do whatever it takes the the get ohio state with the guy abusing his wife knows but you don't know them for two signals. No he's sleeping with his wife. Every night they have conversations. She knows what he no. He didn't know anything was going on. I do even Almost a both face lie. Come on man. The agree and i put his players even if even if it doesn't come down to them now they'll probably you know move on if like say the owner gets involved in dayton ohio chris doyle but some of those dues might be looking at him sideways. Like do really what do you about. So he'll have a tough enough time going from college to pro. Anyway i we we we got more. We moving on all right. We got brad. Turner covers the lakers for the la times coming up as we shift to the n. b. a. He'll join us in a minute but first fox. Sports radio has the best sports talk lineup. In the nation catch all of our shows at fox sports radio dot com and within the iheartradio app search f. s. are to listen live. This is one of our favorite guys in the nba. World does a great job covering the lakers for the la times are man brad. Turner was up. Bt cannot your quick man happy new year. My brother happened to year to you. Youtube brother happy new year and you to rob. He's been best though brad. La when i come back out to la brad. We go into dinner brad. Don't listen you. Know what brad brad we i mean. It was years ago where we go. It was a soul food place. You and i are big with it because we kept up our we decided to do. We kept that up the other guy. Well he talked about it. He just off the last time that the restaurant. Y'all went to was closed down. Nowadays my mama's molly kizzee's kitchen clones. Yes yeah as close. I don't know how in the world is closed. The food was delicious. Well believe it or not. we've got more restaurants. I go to parks just talking nonsense. Don't know look i'm next. La we out brand believe mark. Can i say never. I mean it might be awhile brab. But i'll be here. So let's get to the lakers brother. There's a lot of wanna ask you about but let's start with. Lebron james is minutes. Do you think this is why. He's played over forty minutes to last three games. All in overtime is this wise. What is the coaches staff. Saying what do you think about consider. Why no and is not why. Because they kind of bs around and went to double overtime went to all the time and went to all the time. So that's to me on the players. I think sometimes lakers a little bit bored out there and it gets detroit. I mean that's rob team. That would like one of the worst teams in history of basketball. This sure do and okay see was down to eight players both times and they did now chris. You cover the brian arrived. You've been on ron. Who is going to tell the. Ron james you need to come out the game because you're planning to many minutes and spike is overtime game. Maybe we should go ahead. And maybe risks losing the game so that in a long haul your fresher. What's he going to look like. You're crazy he's going to play. You're not gonna stop him for playing right so what they did do today. The lakers did have practice today. And the brian james was there but he did not practice one way aside and not get him as much playing time. Officer makes i was gonna say is he. Practiced question is being ready for the games in shape. But i would think maybe he's looking at like look. I'm playing games going all out. But he's not practicing. Is that kind of what is the thing that the lakers. Don't pack this much and neither neither any team in the nba. Because of co bit it because of the testing i mean. That was a question that was put to marcus. Saw and to anthony davis bay. How have practices changed from ten years ago. To now and ten years ago you might have to half hour. And if it's pat riley it might be eight and a half hour. You know what. I mean where now there times trying. Let's say they would get on a road and they had to get up and go through the testing they. They can get to be back in time for. They did not have a practice but it could have shoot around because the test results came back too late or they were just too nervous of jumping on a bus going into the renew not knowing between a bus ride to the rena back when a bus route walking into a hotel. All those things. I just getting factors that teams. Just don't tax a lot i mean. Ab even said he teams that get tested and they have practices at four or five the evening. That is unheard of speaking of ad. What kind of a years he have. And how do you gauge it. I know at one point is numbers. Were really down and it was like just kinda go going through the motions or whatever or not interested or the hangover from the championship. What is it. I think he crews vibe you know reminds me of the mas me of another guy that pay for the lakers shit cute. Wow shatin just kinda like you know in the playoffs. Get here in april albion. The my best shape. I'll be ready to play and he was i think. Ab is kind of going through that same thing like now that kind of get it to a degree because think about this. The lakers last game was on october. The eleventh in orlando and they won the nba championship. Their next game in a regular season was similar. Twenty second time all and between wouldn't have title and then starting the season up again. So i think he got into a period where just trying to raise his body now. The achilles is something serious but dealing with he made it back. We all know it is. You don't want it to become an issue. It's a little sore right now but the members are down and i just think down because he's putting in an effort but it's not the effort we have seen from. Anthony was in the past. What do you think mark sauce contributions. I mean i know he's starting but you know z. Are they happy with what he's given them or well expect any enough. They were happy ripping. They keep telling us the same thing that they're happy with him. He also talked about making sacrifices and that he knows he's on a team that doesn't really need his scoring and it has is. The big thing is good because he ain't giving it to him that i mean it's near you know. Hit a kid at three a two week or so so that you know but basketball. Iq obviously off the choice. Is it believed the pass ball to spread. The court is good. And i wasn't that if he falls on one you know you got fouled. He may not be a high of flight. The white was last year with the lakers and juvenile becky. But if you come on land you get five walker song you will it speaking of that you just mentioned dwight and javale mcgee and of course ron does not there. How different is this team. I know people thought they won a championship and they upgraded and they got better but sometimes you know some things just fit together right brad. And i'm not sure if if losing those pieces have changed type of team that they are. Well i'll start with rondo. Rondo was obviously seeking a two year contract there but going to pay him an excess money the lakers. We're willing to pay. And he got two years. What nine you and. I can't blame him. He got his wing. So you'd take the cash in the lakers with making at the age in years and all the miles on his body. Maybe we should just thank him and let him go. So i was fine with that. The situation with veil. They traded him because they want to solve. The one really caught me off. Guard was the white would. Do i wanted to come back. And he wanted to come back and a week that he was coming back brad and then he dead because we all assume that he'll he'll when he was coming back but the lakers at that point actually wanna him wait while they were trying to make someone ouvertures and do some things because they had to really set on on markelle saul and so they were really trying to get things for legal. Now that my translator really just kind of stayed in a lap with either the fundamental. Laugh because guess with agonise guys. What a shocker. Yeah the clippers. Been want him back. There were obviously few teams that interested in time to do a sign and trade with the clippers for montreal's also get him there so are different teams all the better team. I'm like you guys. I'm always cool and my view cannot be better team onto you win the entire thing. Then i can say yes should tomorrow paper. I think they are. I think what they lose and rondos courtship and run another team and they just wanted to get a better overall player. We're quick news. Who was a thoroughly score on the team. Who can actually get it done. Mix up for that. Lack of does not edge negative being great quarterback by playing hard playing defense. And i know. I didn't know you could play defense. He's picking guy though full court she's faster he can score so it'll be lose mondo the ability to beat a team but they gain a young quick fast point. God who average can score more anthem steal paper. The last question brad. And i want to go back to lebron. I mean you seen shaq. Kobe even team players. Who didn't play for the lakers. In that era have you seen anything like lebron. As far as i mean. He's in his eighteenth year. I know he's only thirty six but still because he came out of high eighteenth year. We haven't seen a player played as well at this late stage of their career. I heard the only thing that comes up. I keep thinking about cooling but i'm not sure where there's no more i mean. I think they were dropping right. He was still very productive obviously but he was a team anymore. Yeah but lebron james's chess. It's insane what he's doing every single night and you said three overtime games. He played forty minutes. Threes played games last night. They're up by one that trying to protect the league. He misses a shot and now they're playing defense. And what was he doing. He'd be sex to fall away from hartford so now the cap wanted out an otc. Throw the half court shot and the lakers win the game. I mean obviously wants to win a championship but eat driven by the. Mvp this point because he thought he should have got it last year. Do you think that's on his mind. Get it if his mind. He has to be because we put in my sometimes about the on his own. Yes avoid mind but the mvp that he really wants is an mvp of the finals. Because they'd champion again. Yep yep yep all right. Those are words great brad. Turner l. la times. We appreciate it brother. And let chris and i we go out with some. You know what this is known you. Four hundred years brad. How dare you send me man. I talked to my increase right if rob invites you. And brad's at dinner. You you you gotta be shame. Because i'm i'm three thousand miles away. I believe we robbery. Rob goes to vegas every weekend. Though i know excuse every other. Whoa okay that's my question is called name and lamar. We'll leave it at that red. Probably thanks All keep her locked. Couple of. 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I'm ready for it. Chicken it's already. Cook cannot break break. The little moist right now i am. I need a paper towel big time. Let's talk about lebron in the workload. I'm going to say. And i do not begrudge him at all if this is the case he's a human being so i think this is the case and i say on anyone who does begrudging this but i think rob some of this the plan you know big minutes and twenty i think in the league in minutes so it's not like he's playing too much but these last three games at least he's gone over. Forty minutes and minutes are higher than people expected. I i think part is is chasing kareem for the all time scoring record. And i don't have a problem with that. Lebron is told me. I've heard him say it's on my face. He wants to be the greatest player ever to play now. We can debate whether or not he can do that. Or whatever but certainly Part of trying to do that would be becoming the all time leading scorer and so. I think that's a part of this. Rob do you would you and do you absolutely games other games. Where lake like. He probably shouldn't even be in there. Chris and he's still laying low out or something. Yeah i mean to get to get points and rebounds and i get it that's slim with it You know what if that's what he feels compelled. He's trying to do whatever we can to stack his case because he knows that he doesn't have he. Doesn't that right to had zone trying to make the case that he has all these other things which is what he has to do. Because i don't think he really believes that even if he were to get to six he's still lost six and for a lot of people that's not going to be good enough. You know what. I mean so i think deep down. He's trying to pad the other sections so that people can say well. The all time leading score did this. He did daddy. You wanna mvp. When he was forty five you know or whatever it is. That's what he's hoping to do now. The longevity argument. That's going to be a party argument but it could work against you in this way every win if you don't win play say plays twenty four years when i'm just saying but even twenty years twenty twenty years and he had four championships at that that that doesn't help you even though you amass a lot of numbers. Yeah it definitely could work against you if you got four rings in twenty years I hear you. I think if he were to get to six which again that's easier said than done Six and six. I think people some people would look at it like you. St- jordan was six and all others would give him credit for getting the twelve. And i would give him credit for. I don't know if i'd have it outweigh. Let's see if he gets there for after. Make a decision. I don't know if i'd have. It outweigh jordan six. No but getting the twelve is pretty. That would be pretty impressive to me. It's not about. It's not just about getting year but that's still those are conference i get it. It's not this fine those championship but it's the conference championship and that that's an accomplishment. I must say that that just wouldn't move me to to to lose half the time to win. It is the couple. Chris and rob. We got two hours left. You will not want to change that dial. The ford f series has been america's pickup truck leader for forty three years in counting and the all new twenty twenty one f. One fifty is completely redesigned to be the toughest most productive f one fifty ever and available tailgate work surface. Help simplify and support your work. It includes god's for measuring and even a built in slot for smartphone or tablet computer south. This smart can only be called. F one fifty check out the all new two thousand and twenty one ford f one fifty at four dot com built ford proud built ford tough for the ones who knew. 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Hour 3 - Reggie Miller (11-12-19)

The Dan Patrick Show

46:11 min | 1 year ago

Hour 3 - Reggie Miller (11-12-19)

"Thank you for listening to this. podcast one sports net production available on Apple podcasts. And podcast one. Everybody's got A to do list. I get one for my wife. Drop off the dry cleaning pick-up some milk figure out something to get out of the house. So I can relax. Here's an idea. Let's add save hundreds dollars on car insurance. The good thing you don't have to drop off or pick up anything all you have to do is go to GEICO DOT COM fifteen minutes. You could be saving fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Do you like extra money in your pocket. Do you like not having to drive somewhere to pick something up. This is a way to do it. It just may be the most rewarding thing on your to do list today. Hey that's GEICO DOT com broadcasting from the Mercedes man cave. This is Dan Patrick final hour on this Tuesday. Dan Dan Dan Patrick Metric show. Reggie Miller will stop by about twenty minutes or so knicks or laying the groundwork to fire their head coach. Everybody sees this coming. Why why why? Now you didn't get durant. You didn't get Zion. David fishtails fault. The Knicks are going to do this. They're going to fire. David phys deal. I don't know why they don't let it play out. This is a franchise that has no sustainability. The only thing they had the sustainability and is being apt and they're going to continue to sustain a but durant if this wasn't a warning sign or a bell or a light that went off. It said when Kevin Durant I didn't even consider the Knicks because they're not relevant unit who they're relevant to guys over age fifty even older who go. Yeah I remember the Knicks. Seventy and seventy three. Boy they play great basketball basketball. It's like a great steakhouse in the seventies and it doesn't mean it's a great stay counts now. It hasn't changed in. The Knicks have had players. They've head coaches. They've had you know they. They've lived on the reputation for a long time. Maybe the most loyal basketball fan base that we have in the NBA. And it's a great place to go to the game but Kevin Durant told you you're not relevant to today's NBA. and You bring in David. phys tail like the Knicks are my space. Everybody else is doing instagram and facebook. You're so far behind right now. And now you're GONNA fire David. David physical he's a player's coach. How about you let it play out a little bit? What if he wins the next three? Does that mean he can coach. If you get the number one pick they missed out on Zion. But the team itself missed out on Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving Irving so the luck of the draw. They missed out in New Orleans. God Zion. That has nothing to do with David. Dale and not getting durant or Kyri has more to do do with the overall view of ownership management. And this Malays that is set in at the garden and it's been there for decades now. It's like you wake up. And they assume that this is. Hey if we fire phys Dale. And maybe they're they just want publicity like I wondered this that the nets have. I've gotten all this great publicity. You know that durant and Kyrie and you know their playoff team and they're on the rise and they're the best team in your you know all these things and maybe the Knicks go. We'd like some attention here. How do we get attention? Well we can't win any games. We don't have anybody anybody wants to watch. We traded PORZINGAS zingers. WE MISSED ON ZION. Durant didn't even consider us but we fire the coach. Yeah we'll get some publicity. What's negative no no no? It doesn't matter in New York. We just want some publicity so good luck with that I can. I can be critical of of phys deal with substitution. Sometimes that's the big knock gone but I like him. He's a professional and players like him. But YOU'RE GONNA fire him and they bring in another coach. So you're GONNA be paying two coaches there and you still have the same product there. That's part of the problem here. They the Knicks management thinks. They had a great offseason. Okay they got j Barrett and I like Rj bear. I think R. J. Barrett is GonNa be a guy who's going to be a twenty point score in this league and he's going to play for a while but you know Julius randle is a nice player. But who were you tuning in. If you're going to go to the game. Is there somebody you go. I really WANNA WANNA go see him. You go to see the opposing team. I would go see porzingas but other than that. Like there's no no star power there. And then you're asking David to all of a sudden be Pat Riley and Phil Jackson. They're not a good team. People the League No. They're not a good team. But YOU'RE GONNA fire David Phys Dale and I do believe that's going to happen and then what do you have the same damn am roster. I would love to if you brought in Gregg Popovich and you say pop. Look what can you do this roster. He'd be like I think I'm going to retire. I'm good any chances to the moot point as long as they have the same ownership. And that's the problem that free agents. Don't WanNa play for Dole and he's got such a bad rep. It's totally apples and oranges. I'm not comparing them head to head. But it's like the clippers years ago with their ownership. Now he left under different circumstances than they're not the same people but it felt like the clippers needed an entirely new ownership to take the stink off that franchise. Yes they were fortunate that you had somebody like Donald Sterling. Who did something said something something stupid like they benefited? Something good came out of this because St bomber came in and infused life in there and he let people do their jobs. That's the key he he let the front office. You Know Lawrence Frank Jerry West Doc rivers. He let them do their jobs in any great great boss allows his employees to do their job without constantly. Micromanaging here and they don't have you know the front office has been unstable stable. The draft picks. It's just a mess and it starts at the top but a lot of times. Those billionaires don't think they're the problem Daniel Steiner's the problem in Washington. He's he's not fired himself. And unless Jeff bezos buys the team and don't rule oh that out. Then you're GonNa have the con- you know. It'll it'll be consistent that the redskins are similar to the Knicks living off. What you did in the seventies like men were we great in the early eighties? We were great and okay and then what nothing so. It's not going to change. And it's not going to change with the Knicks either. Because you're GONNA fire your head coach and David is tale deserves better than being fired by the Knicks. But I do think that that's going to happen. I'll talk to Reggie about that because I don't think you can change it. Ah when you think and look I. Was I on the bandwagon. I was leading the charge. I honestly thought durant and Kyrie. We're going to end up with the Knicks. And then I thought if you get Zion now you gotta play off to Durant got hurt. The KYRI was not interested in going to the Knicks. Found durant was not interested and then they lose out on his I sweepstakes so if it could go wrong did go wrong. And then you traded porzingas. I know that it was a serious knee. The injury what did they get for Pausing Dennis Smith Junior and some draft picks. I think and I don't know I've seen porzingus. And he looks looks pretty good. He's Jack now but I don't know what kind of player is going to be the rest of his career but you at least had some star power. They have nothing. There's no heartbeat there. Tell I feel bad for David. Physio think he's a good guy I think he's a good coach but He's going to be the fall. Guy Does not going to be owner not going to be. Gm not going to be the president. It's going to be David Fist. At some point Reggie will join US coming up The Monday night football recap. We spent some time a lot of time talking about this came down to you. Can't give Russell Wilson a chance. He's GonNa make you pay if you're a fan of the seahawks today. How do you feel about the same? mm-hmm reveal a whole lot better. You didn't have tyler Lockett Jude. Avion clowney was wonderful last night. You got two running back. Fumbles the ball way too much if you're niners fan you've got questions about your quarterback and people always go. Oh you're so hard on Jimmy Garoppolo said no not. I'm just honest with Jimmy Garoppolo or that topic. I want to see him because he's going to have to have a moment like last night in the playoffs. Where but will you produce this time? They'll that'll be a game. That comes down to Jimmy Garoppolo. Just Jimmy Garoppolo. You didn't have Emmanuel Sanders and George Kettle. Give you that. But you don't want their a lot of quarterbacks and MS sleek who don't have their best players and they somehow find a way to win Russell Wilson on the road didn't have Tyler Lockett one of the best ten best receivers in football right now. He somehow found a way to win. had a running back who fumbles the Baltimore. He found a way to win in. That's what great quarterbacks to you Garoppolo I'll be the last on the bandwagon and he may prove me wrong stupid but I'm going to hold out here until I see it because I think his weakness is throwing the ball downfield is we saw that last night. Seattle couldn't do eight seven seven three. DP show email address teepee. Dan Patrick dot com a We stumbled on this topic about an hour and a half ago. Bad guys you root for and I still go back to Walter White and breaking bad like you rooted for Walter and he was not the Good Guy Matt and Los Angeles on the topic Matt. Thanks for holding woody. Have for me. Good Morning Dan. Oh I've got two guys that are going to blow your hair back. Are you ready yes. I am John. Rambo first blood and Paul Kersey from death wish who so so which Rambo was ramble. A Bad Guy Matt and it depends because I don't now you look at it. I don't I don't know if he was a bad guy. All right. Well thanks for the phone call and didn't blow my hair back check. Did my here move. It's the same okay. And then what was the other one was that Bronson with death. Wish Yeah but then then this white could killed and then he goes after the bad guys. I too soon I know my yes John Wick. A retired Hitman who goes on on a killing spree to avenge his dead dog. That's I mean. I agree with him but his wife died too but then he really got mad when they killed. They told us dog now he now he wants revenge. Yeah retired Hitman but wasn't he. He wasn't a police officer. He was always a hitman right. I think so okay. There was one point in the last John Wick where I started laughing because it became so like it was just so over. Talk with all the killing like I just I started laughing and I remember my wife what what's funny and I go I I it just. It's funny because it's so over the top. Where are you turn here getting? You know just no matter where you turn. He was killing. Somebody Kill Bill Duma Thurman she's hand girl she's she's a hit version. Yes the John Wick. Series made about a zillion dollars be thinking about as popular for his John. Wick Dog Evanger like that was the title. That's that's the way I got it. Yeah Yeah that's the story line. I'm going with but do you think like detective. Ace Ventura pet detective John Wick. Dog of Avenger. Who else was up for John Wick because it feels like Ken Reeves his perfect for that role? Like there's certain roles but I wouldn't guess that though if you said Oh you got this guy who kills everybody in. This is post Matrix. How many times you go? You know who would have been better in that part now because a lot of times you'll go. Who else was up for that part and then you go? Yeah but he wouldn't have been as good as so it's it's normally you go. Yeah they made the right call. It's rare when you go. Oh he would have been a whole lot better than that guy. Yeah you said the movie pulp fiction where you root for John Travolta. The story was that John. Travolta wasn't the first pick and there's an actor Michael Madsen who I think he was in reservoir dogs. Yes and I think he was due to get the role in as Vincent Vega. But he wouldn't have been better than John Travolta right or or do we because we saw him in the role and we know how radio so I can't go boy. Would he have been as charming as Vincent Vega was. Because there's some charm about Travolta all too and this is the beauty of what Tarantino saw he brought back John Travolta basically acting dead now. His career is done on and he brought him back. And then Travolta had this renaissance. Yes he did we mention Your boy Shochu dirty. Look What's his show? And what's his name. Keith Morrison Yeah no but the guy who does the impression Bill Hader yes. What's IT Berry? Yes US right yeah. He's a guy that you kind of root for bad guy but he's also killing bad guys so Berry Berry kills bad guys who are trying to kill him. I can't wait for the next season with that. Chacha dirty look at Pesky. DNA people arguing. That John Wick wasn't the bad guy in the movie bright but he's still a hitman. Yeah he's killing a lot of people yes mclovin. Here's a tidbit. Did I looked up. Your who was who was under all it was originally written for Paul Newman or a hitman in their mid sixties when the screenwriter wrote the thing but newman got too old. Any changes change it to a young man and Kiana was like the first choice. So it's supposed to be an retired Hitman like an older guy. Can you picture that. I know you've loved. Newman I I think newman was probably is dirty Harry Agai. Let's death wish. Vigilante up a good guy yeah. He's still pretty go to that. I've seen that a couple of times. You know. Bits and pieces of dirty Harry. What's that football stadium where they shoot at their seen on a field field and San Francisco? Candlestick or keys are stadium. I think it's keyser yeah. K. E. Z. A. R. Keys are stadium. I think we'll take a break here. Reggie Miller will join us. Bo and Wisconsin joins us. We'll take a break. Hey Bo morning. Dan Good Morning. Bill Calling Rolling GonNa flip the script on the handsome bad guys and go with one Danny McBride as powers and eastbound down all right killing anybody except for himself and his career great show yeah left Lama Blanca Lanka. But didn't that's a will ferrell project. That's yes I think. His writing team put that together. It's like Will Ferrell in. What is it Andy? Mackay is other mcadam K. They did succession that. That's part of their you now. They're behind that to the show on. Hbo Adam Caves. It's a brilliant guy we know will is but you know Adam the the guy behind the the the scene there are. We'll take all the credit for or does does classic Selfish Take Reggie Miller joining US coming up right after this. If you purchase supplies for a business you know it's nearly impossible to find everything you need in one place and that's why there's Zoro DOT com. where the number one goal is to make your life easier ear? Zoro DOT COM. That's Z. O. R. O. DOT COM is where you'll find everything you need for your businesses of any size. 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Did it go to candidates Yo dot com slash Patrick Patrick for seventy five bucks off Cancio Dot Com Slash Patrick Reggie Miller Hall of Famer Turner Sports. NBA analyst on the call. Thursday night mavs Knicks at the garden. I should go down down there and they probably don't want me there after the things I said about the Knicks Situation Reggie Miller joining us. Reg can you hook us up for Thursday night at the guard I probably could you the rest of my dad's waiting in the law. I cannot wait to see the Knicks. How can you go into Dallas? Obviously hype game because you were fighting against Kris Porzingis just and win and lose thirty plus the next night or two nights later versus the cavaliers. That's that's the problem with the Knicks. I mean it's head-scratching and I know they're rebuilding and young that it it it's from the optics it just doesn't look good but reg reggie even if they're rebuilding and their young then. Why the possibility of firing David physical wouldn't you keep his tail to help with the growth and let this play out a little a little bit and have some stability absolutely and a lot of these flares that they either have drafted or trade it for? I'm sure he had a hand in selecting so as another reason why to keep him around to develop you know. The veterans like Julius randle Taj Gibson. You know veteran leadership that can help some of these young players but the problem I see with the Knicks is with most young teams but the young teams James in today's game. At least they play hard. They might lose games because of experience but at least they play hard the nick the Knicks and their young players at times. It doesn't don't even look like they are trying and that's the problem. I have the effort. I don't care if you're within but give the effort. Do David fishtails coaching on Thursday. When you do then game I do I do? I think it'd be a Arasteh shooting to get rid of Phil I believe. He'll be there Thursday but again I'm Daniel as you know. It's the Knicks but Reggie predictable if you were free agent. Would you consider the Knicks. Now no okay because we heard this from durant where we thought I thought all along he was going to end up with the Knicks and then he said they're not relevant since since it. Today's player doesn't know what we know what the Knicks used to be. And they're looking at that and it's a great place to play but it's not a I'm great team to play four and in today's game in any sport really you don't have to be in a major market to still have that. Do to help for your brand because a lot of these young players a lot of them are just worried about their brand theodore. You know that it's all about commercials and looking good and TV games and you know how many likes getting on instagram. So you don't need to be in New York Chicago La Anymore you know. When we had Lebron in Cleveland he was obviously our number one star in one of the smaller lawler markets and teeth arrived in that so you don't have to be a major marketed? The Knicks aren't what they used to be in the nineties. And you know you wanting to play foyer in the Mecca and you know having the stars and celebrities i. It's not that anymore right so I I agree with d'arret But I will say this. It will always be a knicks town though because of a history until Brooklyn win something. What do you make of the the the raptors? beat the Lakers at the Lakers. What do you what do you make of that? That Toronto is better than people. We'll have given them because you lose Qui- and then you have injuries to call oury surgery Baca but Pasco Siaka who showed US glimpses assist. Last year we kept talking about with Colli Colli Nikolay you look at Paseo comes numbers. They were fantastic throughout the whole play offs and he emerged as their go to guy so this is a prideful team. They're well coached by coach nurse. And they've got guys. He's Fred Van Bleed again second round pick four year Letterman Wichita state knows how to make big shots. They've kind of tinkered a little bit of that starting lineup bringing in Norman Powell you still got powder saul who was a defensive player of the year so they still have an identity and they have that championship. DNA So am. I surprised no It was a back to back. It was a good game last night versus the clippers versus his former team. I just think he ran out of gas but the rafters nuclear still a pretty good team and Lakers can't lose at home to the raptors when they're two guys down I mean. Yeah but I mean. Here's the thing. The Lakers everyone there on top of the world because they go on that road trip then they beat Dallas. It'd be Tonio triple doubles flying out the windows for Lebron and they come home and lose the game now. Everyone thinks it's the end of the world they come on. It seems sitting on top of the Pacific Division tied. And they're playing well and their ten games in and they're still figuring now I know he's having some kind of what Shoulder solar situation. He's not one hundred percent and they're still finding ways to win ballgames Let's address the Lakers. And all these other teams come Christmas Day and those games going into the new year because you gotta give a sample size of twenty eighty to twenty five games. That's who you are. That's how you're going to play unless you had you know free agents or injuries happened to your team's pretty much that's going to be your your DNA the rest the or so. We got another ten games or so to go for the Lakers. To really start to judge them and see what they're going to be for the rest of the season man. I caught a lot of grief from from people including you a little bit with my take. Lebron still better than coli and my point is quiet. A wonderful postseason player. He'd never had a triple pull. Double and Lebron plays more minutes in more games. He's more valuable to his team. Then Colli is wonderful in the postseason. Lebron is it's still a better player. Why is this a topic of discussion or our anger arguments? Well because everyone tried to compare you know Kobe and you know so many other players to Michael Jordan. Everyone's trying to compare players to Lebron. He's the best player of this generation. So that's what we do But between you and I it wasn't so much whose better because I told you Lebron will always have the numbers because he will have the games the minutes. You're right about the triple doubles but in terms of coming towards the playoff when right now you know the whole topic last week or the last ten days as load management which is driving me crazy. You're going to see that from the from Colli. He's not gonNA play either the first back to back to the second game of back to back because he is gearing up so towards the playoffs and what is more important to have your best player on full gas for the playoffs or or running on fumes running into the playoffs now. Lebron is going to be running on fumes. But that's just how Colli works and it worked last year for them But it doesn't always work because if I remember right Joel embiid was on load management and work out very well for the Philadelphia. Seventy sixers right so so you you know. Pick your poison. It goes both ways the Kuwait can't be the MVP reg if you're playing a game right. I agree he can't be Kareem. Don't can't be I agree whenever then. He can't be but that wasn't the question who was going to be the. MVP You're asking. Who would pick right now regular season I would pick Laurent Ron postseason fresh? I'M GONNA pick. Why just because the load management because he'll be who played the most minutes during the playoffs last year? Quieter okay looking. I can't argue with how he closed out with the Spurs winning a championship and in Toronto. I can't argue with that. He had a banged up warriors team. But you know what he he still did what you want a great player to to do. I just keep telling people. Lebron is never really gotten the credit that he deserves. I know that may sound like a hot take but I still still think we. We have looked at Lebron for all the things that he doesn't do or didn't do or couldn't do on the floor instead of celebrating what he was able to do. We didn't do that with magic. Didn't do that with Larry didn't do that with Mike but with Lebron I think he's the I st- true superstar the star that we really looked at through a negative lens. A lot of people did and I don't know why you know you went to Miami. I think a lot of probably people assume too much too soon. You know the cover. Sports illustrated when he was what you know. Sixteen seventeen or eighteen. Something like that and the trouble is in one and that probably rubbed people the wrong way when you still had this players you just mentioned still in the game like Michael Jordan. I think magic it was just retiring and so people are like the Chosen One. You know feeling that the king the king you know probably rub people the wrong way but I do agree with you because I don't know if I could put them on my Mount Rushmore. But he's knocking on the door right. I mean it. He's probably you and I had this conversation about the best small forward of all time. It was hard for me to relinquish Larry Bird. Just it's hard for me but it it's it's hard for me not to put Lebron ahead of it really is well birded. His best to me was better than Lebron at his best. It and once again at these aren't for hot takes because I don't do that. But when when bird average thirty ten and ten like his best season was better than Lebron's best season and you know bird was winning championships is well you know. I don't think I don't think bird first of all bird never made it to seventeen Seventeen years no wouldn't be bird wouldn't be able to even birds last year which I think it was twelve or thirteen years. He wasn't playing like how Lebron is playing right now now in his seventeenth year. Oh no but bird was had a bad back for probably the latter half of his career last four years of his career factor. That in a little bit you know. He's not better than Lebron. I'm saying bird is best is better than Lebron is best. He's a better shooter. He's a better passer are he's a better rebounder guy. You know how much I love Larry. Legend Larry Joe. It's just you're talking about the best small forward of all time. I'll give back to Lebron. But not if I take Lebron's best year and Larry's best year I'll take Larry over him and imagine if you today's three point philosophy. Yeah so I mean he just he. He's better at his best than Lebron is. But Lebron is GONNA be considered a greater player. I have no problem with that. Not at all. You Got Luca don-shik coming up on Thursday night. I watched him against the Celtics last night. And I've said this to this audience basketball is about angles. It's about getting getting leverage. It's about finding space. It's about getting somebody uncomfortable. You know where you can take advantage of them off balance. I mean you understood this as well as anybody Don Chick who's not even twenty one understands angles reg that it. He plays like he's ten years older than what he is. I'm assuming he is really twenty but mclovin says tell you why is because he's been playing professionally since he was what fourteen or fifteen so. He knows those angles by playing against older players players and developing those angles When I watch him play there such a smoothness to his game because you can never really rattle or speed them up he he controls the pace of game? And if that's Saris and to have that pitty pat and the separation he you know we you talk about. James Harden step back. And how much spacey creates Luca's in that same category if not better in terms of step back and when you've we've got a jump shot that pure and you're able to handle the basketball like that and you've got shooters on the edges to me. That's what Dallas is one of those teams that are on. The rise is because of Luca. Obviously eh for size stretched the floor Well coach obviously a former coach of mine and Rick Carlisle But he is a truly truly discretional player because of the angles you mentioned mclovin went on a rant a little while ago about the officiating on James Harden and he for some reason thinks the officials are giving harden the benefit of the doubt with all these free throws here is that is that a fair characterization and those are up eighty percent this year he's breaking every NBA Raccoon. He's going to break the record by a mile for most free throws made in a season. Okay are they giving them preferential treatment and I believe he just broke. The most free throws throws attempted For the first ten games of any player in NBA history held that record. I put him in that same category as Michael Gorden because Michael Jordan got out on every play we I ha I tripped hits. You didn't Georgian. They did everything tried to stop him. And you just you really put it on. The officials like they can't call everything because he's getting fouled on every every single play. You say the same thing about James Harden as much as he dribbled and isolation's and one on one and he creates a lot of space with a little bit of that chicken job but he is initiating a lot of the contact a lot of times. It's hard to officiate So eleven a lot of times he gets the benefit of the doubt because she's initiating that he put him in the same boat as MJ because they can't call every foul so they he gets a lot of the benefit of the doubt calls from from your man if he gets that three point shooting percentage up again coming in on average in forty. I mean. He's averaging thirty six now. Reg Seven three again. I like to sample size of twenty games or so. But we're like ten games in AH TO PICK A new. Vp Right now. Are you going with hard. Are you going with you on us. Not Going Hardin. No I mean I I've seen I I. He's wonderful player. I just don't know if they're any better this year than they were last year with. Chris Paul I need to see a little bit more with that team. And they're guaranteed to disappoint seventy. Three's top three or four. Jaanus their top two or three seven three but numbers wise numbers wise between the two because August. Unbelievable I'm GONNA go jaanus. I'll go beyond. What do I probably would too and Dame Lillard had sixty the the other night reg and lost and lost they? They don't look the same as they did last year. And I don't know I can't really put a finger on it because they play the same way I know they lost some key role players But they just don't look the same they don't have that same fight to them as they did last year last year they were the underdog and you know they were going after the teams that you know. Have the bullseye on their back. Sure they're kind of the hunted. 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Kyrie Speaks & KD's Debut

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Kyrie Speaks & KD's Debut

"They even though fans can attend this year's masters. The tournament is using the flexibility of a hybrid cloud to scale their capabilities. Now everyone can be a patron learn more at ibm dot com slash masters. Welcome to the job. I'm rachel nichols joined by our resident coach. Mr david phys dale and our nba insider. Dave mcmenamin popping up from venice beach. He's got the best location of where we're all making mistakes here. Except for dave coming up. Kevin durant played in an nba game for the first time in a year and a half and boy did he look his outlook for the season first. Though let's start with these teammate kyrie irving who just moments ago friends spoke to the media for the first time you will recall. He was fine last week for failing to do his media. Obligate which are as i mentioned in the cba contract with players signed when he said. I do not talk to john. Apparently that has changed. Listen to kyrie today. Like i said the focus is on. What's going on task here. You know my job. And i wanted to make sure that that was clear. The no distractions nothing about dispelling. Anything nothing about going back and forth known about calling out one person or another not even referred to you guys as pawns. You know what i mean or media is just really hot felt about the mistreatment of certain artists when we get a certain platform of when we make decisions within our lives to have full control and ownership. You know we we. We go through the regular season. We do everything we're asked to do. You know and we wanna perform in a secure protect space. And if i can't have my voice perspective on this platform where all for myself and my art just inviting everyone to it. Because this is what. I've been blessed to and then you got a two-time vp. Coaching you man. I'm like you know. I gotta take back in terms of the head coach few months ago. But it's just like men. We have such a great synergy it. Everyone feels like were coaching. One another to be better. So i'm grateful for that your reaction when you see him there. Well that's the right thing to say. Obviously clarify but at the end of the day. The media is just part of the deal and especially in new york city. Get used to it. i've lived it And for the most part in new york you have really a big time sports journalist which you do have those writers who are sensationalist and wanna poke at you and kind kinda tabloid it. And so i see how that can get annoying to a player at times but you just gotta kinda prepare yourself that that's what is going to be. They're going to always trying to electric three. It's always trying to pull out your culture especially in a big media market like that and he's just going to have to find a common ground and a good level of respect to walk that line with speaking of someone who covered him day in day out for three years and didn't really feel like i had a different advanced relations with them at the end of those three years than i did on day. One all i ask someone as a speaking on behalf of the media. Core advocate for the job. We do obligations. Don't have to be friends with us but speak to us after games because ultimately what you seek is understanding for the art that you're putting out there the best way we can understand it is if we hear it directly from you because otherwise we gotta talk to other people who can interpret what you're doing and then put those quotes and that information are stories versus getting it straight from the source in so today i hope was an olive branch because listen the nets are going to be one of the most fascinating teams all season. Long one of the most fascinating characters in that group. So let's hear it directly from the horse's mouth. It's interesting to me watching him speak just now. The best advocate for kyrie irving is kyrie irving. He is telegenic. he's charming. He is smart when he wants to have a real conversation. He he's a. He's winning in every kind of way and he could be his own advocate in in so many ways with the people that he feels are causing him. Distractions are taking away from him. He could actually be helpful in changing that. It's when he does the big instagram. Sort of you know law cast. This is that. I think allows people to sort of read into it. Today's point i was also interested to hear him. Make comment about steve nash. Saying oh i gotta take back what i said. A few months ago that was of course in reference to the podcast that he and kevin durant it together where he said. Oh one day. He's going to be the coach one day. I'm going to be the coach. We're all going to be coaches and it's funny in the moment again. Some people say that that's a great thing to set up your new coach. Steve nash. Legendary steve nash with and he was upset that people were taking it out of context. Or why do i live in this media world and all of that will today said himself. I gotta take back. What i said so clearly. He knows now. That was not the right thing to say. Yeah and i just think that he's gonna learn fast. They're going to have to put a nice little bubble over their team. Same thing we did in miami you know. Don't say too much. You just give them enough you. Don't let them in your locker room from the standpoint of information because the biggest issue they're going to have this year People trying to tear them apart from outside. That teams got great. You could see the relationship. So there steve nash. Kinda got a team builder so they do have to be aware of what can tear them apart outside. But you need to understand you have to deal with the media and you can use the media to your advantage if you approach with the proper level of respect. The media is a conduit to the fans. That's just that's just how it is. That's why just part of the collective bargaining agreement kevin durant returning to action last night man. Let's get more because this was so great time. Since tearing his achilles game five of the twenty nineteen finals fifteen points three rebounds three assists two blocks twenty four minutes of action but most of all coach can just looks like himself. Having fun it looks great with having one of our superstars back on four it makes the league exciting and interesting and things. I look forward. How many times did it shoot inside the restricted area. To for three inside the paint. He was or six from the free throw line which means he is attacking that he's putting pressure on that leg to do the things that it's always done for over the time that he plays this year as his minutes grow. He'll get stronger. And i think plan next to a guy like get. Some easy buckets is just going to allow him to progress at his own pace. I love seeing katie play above the rim months after playing his last game in the finals. To be out there on the court and to show that that level of elasticity is back in that leg of his and obviously have the confidence to go. Plays like that shows me that. He's progressed onto a really strong level entering this season and we've looked at guys in the past who've had the achilles tear based on that i can recall that was at his level return to that type of level three. He's trying to accomplish something that's unprecedented here. But certainly like. I think part of the reason kevin durant hasn't had the best relationship with the fans and with the media is that maybe he hasn't gotten his proper do as being one of the greatest players of all time and certainly one of the greatest of his generation and i think perhaps this could be a reminder to everyone of just how great of a basketball player he is if he can stay healthy this year and look at. We'd haven't seen a guy with his body type in his prime of that skill level. Have this kind of injury so he could really be writing the book. Kelly's injury and can't do to you. And the chemistry. He had with kyrie on the court was remarkable and you could see it in every moment and them together the way they complement each other. Gave you hope if you're a nets fan that this is really really going to be something and that chemistry by the way also apparent not just in the game. Kev inquiry had very entertaining. Is debris live chat on saturday. One of the most fun exchanges involved. Kyrie asking for more post touches. Take a listen in my past life. Like i said i was you i was you. I was you where you are now. That's what i'm up here. Same tally of getting to a spot. I'm raising a. I'm getting into a bucky. My footwork is impeccable. I have. I'm able to shoot over the top. Hold hold a follow through. And i don't see people. I do not feel the same way. I do sometimes. But i'm just saying. I don't think that's good. The continuity of our officers are point guard. Always want to be underneath around. You know what i'm saying. That can come off. That can't come on me. I do you write. That can't come off. Like i'm trying to implement myself does okay. So what about what about seven post office instead of eight. I mean we negotiated at the other. We was going to two and a half with a two and a half post ups or game. The half one is like at the udub on the post. You just throw it right back to know. But i'm also saying i feel like every play down. I on this niche. no matter. Who's in for me. So i think that that mentality mixed with having that post guard is a great balance. You know for our swat officers here. We're going to see. I think. I know postseason negotiable but i i think for a half works like eight that that we'll see here five joy here six where we're going here. Three what do you. What did you feel like watching these guys. Do this real time to see them hash things out over instagram live. Shows is that while we are in a different era of nba basketball. And okay. that's okay like this is like the lunch table type of conversation and you don't have to take it to be So literal that they're gonna be rewriting. The playbook in handing it to steve nash. Before the first game of the regular season. But i think it's also interesting to know that he's one of the best improvisational players we've seen in the game. And he wants to map out how he goes about his offense which could be that. He's on such a high level that he can think that many plays the head or could be. This is just two guys having fun talking about the game. I think it's two guys have a fun but kyrie is a great post up guard. He doesn't get enough credit for that. But i love k d's response to so coach like i don't think that's best for team right now so you know talking about floor ballots. That's all love their cover from k. d. But you're talking about. This is a better on paper. They fit better than lebron and kyrie. Lebron is that ball hands a lot. He's a guy he's a playmaker a guy like that. Both of those guys were like that but now you put k. d. with them who in his whole career has been one of the most fish players. When it comes to getting buckets one two three dribble max to get wherever he wants to get through to get a bucket. We kyri being that show me who can put it on the floor. Do anything with the ball. I think they got so many options to play off of each other. And again i think this helps k b get himself going again get his legs back underneath them and not feel the pressure to have to come out and be okay right away. Plus by the way it was the return of kevin durant last night and that was amazing. We haven't seen kyrie irving who in a while either because various injuries and the bubble. And there's nothing else that man around a basket. Sorry i know the handles are out of control and all that stuff but just the way he moves around the hoop. It's so nice to have that back in the nba. All right coming up guys. James harden still wants out of houston despite the addition of john wall. How good those guys looked on the court the other night is there anything. The rockets can do to change his mind. We'll discuss that show. We know from the time you get up to the time you wrap up tonight. There's a lot of meet. Ups eat ups and hurry up so come to shell and get three things. Don once fill up with shell v power nitro plus to help. Keep your engine running like new. Save up with the fuel rewards program and never pay full price for gas. Again and snack up instal rewards to save even more at the pump. Make the most of the stop. You need to make michelle engines continuously so you shelby. Power nitro plus premium gasoline c. full terms and conditions. If you're welcome back to the jump. I'm rachel nichols joined by coach. David dave mcmenamin. Let's get guys to the ongoing. James harden saga according to ramona shelburne. Adrian work now ski. James is still seeking a trade sources. Tell them john. Wall's arrival has left harden unmoved an uninterested in pursuing a new partnership and the franchise star continues to push the rockets for a deal. So let's look at a recent time line of the drama here. December first hardened did not report to rackets training camp a couple of days later he posts the pictures at rapper. A little babies birthday party breaking the nba's covert protocol by being without a mask then happened to las vegas on the day. The rockets expected him to come in for his first on december. Eight hard and finally did report two rackets training camp. He had to of course enter the covert protocol so he was required to get six straight negative test today. He's expected to finally clear that rejoin the team. Here's coach stephen silas. Today we talked basketball. You know i'm a basketball coach. And he's a basketball player and we talked hoop today So inspired his commitment to what we're doing basketball wise seems right there Spars the rumors and all the other stuff like can't speak to you again. That's another question that you'll have to have for him as far as that as a distraction. Billy hasn't been that much of a distraction. I mean it's been something that the media has been talking about quite a bit. And i've had to answer a lot of questions about but as far as our growth in our kind of pushing forward this season We've kind of been right on pace and now adding him and and bj to the mix does makes a better you. So i see so. We've been talking all week about stephen. Silas is professionalism. Here it is a lot for a first time coach to be juggling. But there's more ahead for him because ownership and the front office want james to be convinced to stay. Was there anything coach. Silas can do to help with that. Well i think he's handling it perfectly. He's keeping it about basketball. He has nothing to do with contracts and all of that stuff so he's doing the right thing by by really presented to giants team can really succeed the only thing. I think that can keep jones. There's if he joins the team right now in place with them and he likes what's going on if he really really likes the locker room the coaches staff and the progression of where they're going to end up otherwise damn they offered him one hundred and three million dollars two years and that didn't convince him to stay over fifty million dollars a year. I mean so. If that doesn't do it right i don't know what other options they have left so you know. Hopefully the tape can galvanize around but a hundred billion dollars over two years. If that don't move yeah. I don't know what will i don't blame james harden for being in position. He's in they got rid of my ten. Tony they got rid of daryl morey. They traded away robert covington and all the sudden this championship window that he was reveling in for a couple of seasons seemingly has closed and now he wears and the trophy that he won an amble around his neck. Because we know that for better for worse in this league. It's about the ring and unless you are winning championships all your individual accolades ring hollow. And so certainly he must feel that pressure of. We need to legitimize what. I've done so far individually with the championship. And if i have a friend playing in brooklyn and i see an easy window to protect potentially join up on a team. They can give me that ring. There's desire there but now comes down to if that's not going to happen. And the rockets have dug their feet in got to be professional. Because you get paid quite handsomely to go play basketball and you are great at playing basketball and so report to camp. It sounds like he had a good practice today. And certainly kudos to stephen silas because what a tough situation that. He's put in as a first time head coach. I'm sure it is a distraction. He hasn't been able to implement what he wanted to do in his first week of training camp as a head coach but to air out those grievances not going to help them in the long run should they be able to mend fences and have him. James harden continuing their partnership. Together it really is tricky from a basketball standpoint though because one of the things that we all said coming into this training camp once we knew john wall and demarcus cousins. We're going to be. There is wow if james changes the way he plays. This could really work. If john wall is really healthy and james adjusts while now. They're in the position. He is finally coming into in practices with them. But they're trying to convince him to feel good about this team. I don't know how much then coach silence can tell him by the way also completely change your style of play. Because i don't want this team built around you anymore. And if you look at the other guys now john wall and demarcus cousins the way. They've been playing. They have looked good in preseason action. Wa- posted thirteen points nine assists followed by twenty one point four assists cousins scored in double figures in both games. So dave. how dangerous can this combo of former kentucky stars. Be for the rackets. Especially once james is back in the mix. I think it's a positive day. Have those two guys coming in. That aren't just strangers to one another. They have that pre existing relationship going back to even before they played a kentucky together and certainly they both are trying to re collect that superstar status that they had not that long ago But i i don't that to me creates an interesting dynamic. Because we've seen locker rooms with clicks like they have a natural report and the guy who has owned that locker room and own that franchise has his face plaster on the side of the toyota center for the last. Several years is now the outside or in a way because he hasn't been there you know it's kind of what have you done for me lately in this league and right now. They are the rockets playing and he is the outsider. So it's interesting dynamic I think basketball can work itself out sometimes if they have a couple good games and he recognizes that. Maybe this is something that i shouldn't overlook there's something here at the same time again. It's not kyrie. And kevin durant not joel embiid and his old boss daryl morey and so i can see why he would be cold to jumping right into this new relationship. Yeah but i still see more talent than he's ever had on the team near right now and i think you know because if he yeah i think so when you look at the totality boogie cousins at a point in this league was won v. Big right hands down. He was twenty six and thirteen or whatever. He was putting extreme numbers. John wall was one of the top point guards in this league. And so when you add that to a james harden and i don't think code silence is asking him to hand over the whole team in have to adjust his whole game some kind of way. I think what he's gonna show him. This is how these guys can really help you and take the load off of you so when we get deeper into this thing you got the legs and you've got to trust built in that can get you over the hump later on these. Two guys are really trying to rebrand themselves right now. I think it's a great opportunity for wall and boogie to reestablish themselves and if it doesn't work out with james and they move him they're going to get something good back to add to that team so i think the rockets can be a really good basketball team. I don't know how good they ended up being a solid basketball team in the west. Well it's no secret. These are two players who i particularly like watching play basketball just like both of their game so much and i hope that they can get back to those. Gentlemen that you were describing. We don't know if they're going to be that yet. And i wouldn't want to put that pressure on them. Frankly because we've seen with gordon hayward paul george it takes a little while to come back from such a major injury but yeah through james harden. I would hope you would get excited about this. And this duo. Because here's the thing. If the rockets do trade him he does not get to say where he goes. James is their ticket to getting back. Some of their future. If they are forced to deal him they're going to make a trade to the best organization for them for their deal. And so i hope he realizes what he has in these two right now at least give it a try. We will save all right guys coming up. Taylor horton tucker open the eyes of a lot of fans a couple. Big games against the clippers over the weekend. How much has the lakers. Deaf improved from last season. Stick around. you're watching the getting greedy wrestlemania. Today's horoscope brought to you by geico. People will take note of your sunny disposition sagittarius. That's because you just switch to geico and discovered you could save hundreds of dollars a year on car insurance however your newfound. Inner glow may prompt unfounded rumors. Did you get promotion juice cleanse. Did they give you too much anesthesia at your dentist appointment. You're a secret is safe with us. Secretary terrace geico fifteen minutes. Could save you fifteen percents or more his a young kid a lot of people don't know about but you're going to know about him because he's going to start playing and get minutes and seeing that the he can really play on a championship caliber. Team league macula kid is fantastic. We special mike taylor. What a night. Thirty four points on top of that great performance the other night. What does it feel like out there to be doing what you're doing against a team like the clippers. That is two of the best defenders in the league. Just trying to come out here. you know. play Just do whatever i can you know the showcase and Provide entertainment so. I just feel like you know i came out here tonight. I was able to get the elite guys in the nba about you. Leonard stopped wes. Matthews mid game the other night to say that kid. He's only nineteen and of course had to be corrected. You had your birthday a couple of weeks ago. Taylor twenty now. How does it feel to be feeling out the nba. Because you were great in the bubble. But you've spent most of last season in the g. league. Yes it's just a great learning experience for me being up the guys and just i'm taking it every day at a time. I mean one day at a time trying to get better every day. I appreciate it. Welcome back to the fund talking to tail. And last night. I'm rachel nichols joined by david. Dave mcmenamin and boy. He was hot. Scorching in the lakers. Preseason win over the clippers dave. you're in the building. Tell me a little bit about how much the lakers depth improved from last season. When you add a guy like tail and into the mix i mean he was dominant now. I don't expect him to have nights like that. Every as the season goes on because he's not going to get forty five minutes like he did but what he does is allow the lakers to extend their championship contender status. If you get lucky on some of these young players may pan out you can work around the margins. A little bit better. Because when you're spending so much money on the contracts of anthony davis and lebron james and then obviously they had to re up kentavious pope and they treated for trenice shooter and he's making a good chunk of change. You don't have much left to work with. And so to hit on a guy like talent toward tucker who they purchased the second round draft pick from orlando magic to be able to draft him in the middle of the second a couple of years ago. That's so huge. And he's kind of falling the same mold. That alex caruso did for them last year he was a young player trying to find his way in the league hungry and they all fed off that energy income game six nba finals out group of starting. That may be a lofty goal for town. Tucker but certainly he's someone who seems to be ready to be able to contribute all season long. Absolutely i think this kid starting to really gain confidence. And if you look back at the bubble franks room in the rocket series for two games. He played grace. So can you imagine what that did for that kid coming into this year saying my coach believes emmy he's gonna give me a chance to compete and play and now this kid would no pressure on them with all of these stars gets injected into the mix the rich getting richer and now he's around he's also. This is great what he's doing but think about who's playing with now. Lebron makes everybody better shrewder as a playmaker margus all wanted a best. Play making bags in a league. That can get buckets so here. They have another big young guard that can defend multiple positions that can push the pace and that is an office of liability. So i'm really happy for this kid. I love seeing these kind of stories and he's going to contribute to their winning this year. I guarantee it seem to also have just a maturity. I don't know part of that was being with the team. Through the bubble that was such an intense experience. And you have to remember to a big part of why. He spent a chunk of last season. The g. league was in injury that prevented him from being summer league so he just got such a slow start to things. I do wanna know though now that his depth has improved now that he's improved now that the depth of the team overall has improved. Dave how does that impact teams plans to load manage. Lebron and anthony davis. Lebron has told me that he flat out not believe load management. Told me over and over again. If i'm healthy. I'm playing and certainly he would have to come off. That stands change his mind about it or be a hypocrite if he decides to all of the sudden load manage this year. So we'll see how that works out the league even though they still have Rules in place where they wanna see the stars playing in marquee games they understand. It's the shortest off season in league history and so there are some opportunities to rest your guys if you should need it But you know there's a thing and it's very low on the list of priorities for lebron of what he wants to accomplish. It's all about winning championships in stages career. But i don't think lebron is going to rest for the sake arresting because there is that on stick where he could catch dream of jabbar for all the all time points list if he continues to play and play enough games while he's healthy and so you know i've always known him to be guy where you know if he's going to get out there and be a part of a regular season play me Don't let me just for the sake of sitting me. And i don't think that's really going to change. Not he's exactly right around abroad. Says there's no way he's getting low you know what they're low management is going to be this year. Remember golden state a few years ago. Just beat the hell out of everybody in the first three quarters and they would be up by parody and a never played in the fourth quarter. Welcome to low management for the lakers. Lebron now did he games. He's about to make history. What are we talking about. You try to get him to sit in. Miami uncertain was a new point. We don't even come at me with though if a basketball game is being play. We had to beg them to sit out the last game of the first year. We had them together in toronto because he was just like nope not sitting out there. A game being played playing and so that's his attitude. He's like a pickup player missile plant. The party's plan. And so. I think that's the way they're gonna manages. Minutes is just by being dominant and because they have so many different weapons. There's so many different times. They will be able to sustain dominance throughout the season. Even if a guy goes down or a guy gets tweet they won't miss a beat because there too deep dinner at every single position so blow man is my my but he is going to play and play well interesting a little bit of damage on the court. Though because our colleague bronwyn windhorst has talked about how lebron perfected the art of load during games. Sometimes by the way quite leonard did this to where wouldn't really maybe all the time getting back on defense all of that stuff but then changed. Last season is right. He was so he thought it was so important to set the tone for the rest of the team that last season you saw him play especially defense differently than he had in the previous three or four years. I don't know which lebron we're gonna get during the regular season this year. Whether he feels like is smarter to preserve himself for the play offs or whether he needs to still be that tone setter all the time no matter what does this we is. I just don't see him doing anything different the way he ended this the last year blocking everybody shot chasing people down. He's going to start the year this way. He's a heavyweight fighter as used to fighting fifteen rounds every fight so he will not get tired. He's gone nine out of ten chip runs. He's gonna to know how to pay himself throughout the season so that he can hold the trophy at the end of the year. Well that is certainly the goal for that team. Once again dave is going to take a quick segment off. He will be back later in the show coming up. We're going to talk a little clippers. Chemistry are there issues. Behind them are clippers. Reporter ohm youngmisuk is going to join us to preview their season next on the junk keeping slow. Hi there this. Is julie foudy host of the podcast laughter permitted. And i'm here to tell you about our sponsor ally first of all if you're still stuffing financial documents into a filing cabinet. I am here to save you or perhaps you're still waiting in line at a bank. There's a smarter way. My friends do your banking online with ally anytime anywhere. The name is the mission. is your financial ally. Let them make your money. Work smarter while you get to play which for me means more time to surf and hang with my sometimes. Adorable kids visit a. L. l. y. Dot com slash savings to learn more ally bank member. Fdic welcome back to the jump. You know we're just eight days away from the start of the next nba season and you know what that means. The jumps previously on segments are back. This is like when your favorite tv show returned from hiatus. Were catching up on everything. That happened since the last time you saw him so now. It is time for previously on the los angeles clippers. There's something going on here. And this is not simply the clippers messing around. It's more than that. The denver nuggets are out playing them. Clippers roy down have no answers. Filled inaugurates hooper's owner steve feeling like what clipper fans right now. There is no stating about what we saw in the la clippers last night just an absolute flat out. Catastrophic disaster as the clippers were busy descending into a giant sinkhole. Last night damian. Lillard and cj mccollum had a field day on twitter. Gonna break this up. Clippers and doc rivers parted ways yesterday the team said in a statement that rivers and owner steam bomber quote reached a mutual decision dot. Play like I like jj reading involved or hockey do but that ain't my game. Your answer is it's just hard to see where you're going here. Coaches are the fall guys and sometime. It's not warranted bomber. Decided we need a fresh start and and look. That's a brave bold move. Paul george and the clippers have agreed to add four years to his contract. Last season didn't end the go the way they wanted them to. And certainly there's a lot on. Leonard and paul george with a new head coach and pilot. Get this figured out. We are now thrilled to welcome in a reporter and my maryland friend own young to help us preview the clippers upcoming season and we begin guys with the big cliffhanger rate at the end of last season. When we lost the clippers. They gave up a three one lead to the nuggets in the western conference. Semis in the aftermath of that as noted their chemistry problems rate doc rivers gets fired. This offseason they hired tie lou. They lose mantras herald to the lakers pickup serge ibaka to reunite with kawhi after their twenty nine thousand nine title. Ron paul george also signed that big extension so home. Do the clippers feel like their chemistry issues are behind them. Oh this is definitely still an issue for them that they are working on but the clippers should send bouquets to the houston rockets and kyrie irving basically taking away from them as far as being the biggest drama in the nba. Those two guys are making the clippers. Look functional okay. I kind of liken. This rachel to like i. I'm one of the few lucky people that just got a playstation five which is a rachel and the thing is like once you get it into your car and you purchased it. That's only half the battle because now you've got to wait for it to actually come and get to you and you hear all these horror stories of it being delivered in the actual place of box of people jacking them. Okay and i'm getting to my point. Here is that for the clippers and their chemistry. Yes they made. Some changes with doc rivers tight lue maybe an addition by subtraction by losing the six year much. It's a brilliant search of botha's who has familiarity quite leonard until i got my playstation five until you see it and feel it in your hands the clippers. Don't have that chemistry yet. And that is something that they're going to have to work on. And there's gonna be bumps and there will be bumps along the way for short because they are learning a new system under tight lou. Yes tie their last year. And your doc rivers but as tyler said this is a whole system they got new players new faces to bring in and there's a lot of pressure on quiet pau just doesn't work out if they have another collapse another unimaginable catastrophe in the post-season. Guess what. Leonard has a player option contract next summer. They locked up. George but the clippers are still going to be anxious and so they see that chemistry together because they want to keep quiet leonard. Next summer's i totally agree. I think the t lou and the staff. They deserve a fresh start right because that's that he deserves that because he's a championship coach. He's gone through all of the stuff you need to go through. And he needs to be able to put his stamp on this team. The pressure absolutely lies on those two guys. Look at the amount that the clippers have invested in having those guys here the number of picks you know. I still come back their kid. Gilchrist alexander love him. Ride danilo gallinari was a part of that deal and they just paid him a four-year monster contract. So i just think that with that investment. Those two guys have to take this team to another level. And i think what will be a big difference for them. This year is can reggie jackson and play at a high level as a point guard and really feel that that position that they need. Because that's the one place i think. Everyone say the clippers have needed to improve. So we'll see what reggie can do in that position it. Can he make other people better around true floor general april. I will just say to everyone. Do not underestimate surge ibaka. He is such a breath of fresh air everywhere he goes. He has a really good relationship with qui- they've done some fun stuff. So yeah there. He's gotten out of his comfort zone. So search. Can maybe maybe be that bridge between colli and the rest of the team that will lead to better chemistry. We will seek offender cashew absolutely but not not just on the court but off the four is a guy you want locker all right. Here's clippers fans will need to binge watch in the first half of the season. The clippers facing the lakers on. Tnt's opening night and they face the nuggets. On christmas night they also face the warriors twice in early january and they will see the bucks on february. Twenty eighth on abc. So home. Which game would you say is bigger for the clippers. Night against the lakers or christmas night against the nuggets. I mean look if this was any other team. I would say maybe trying to exercise your demons on the playoffs after having a three one collapsed nicola yokich said at the start training camp. People were talking about the clippers. Losing a not the nuggets winning that series and the clippers certainly feel that way throughout camp all the centers how they lost that series and they should have won that. This is about the lakers. This beat between these two games because when you get measured yourselves off against defending champions granted we might not see a lot of lebron in opening night but there could be in that arena watching them get their rings potentially and also mantras herald the other wrinkle. That's there is on the other side now and in the first game patrick beverley mantra and there were already talking smack each other. They're going to take that up of hundred levels on opening night. So definitely the lakers over the nuggets. Totally one hundred percent agree with you as just when you. La and your plan in the same building spoken like understand what it is right and they got to watch the lakers get they rings and hang up another banner in a staple center. I remember in miami when we had to sit in the locker room and watch dallas. Oh yeah i'm telling you if you're not fuming in there and ready to go and come out with just a chip on your shoulder. We ended up. I know we were a thirty after three quarters to tell you how they were in a back. Lebron delay chris they were foaming at the mouth and so if the clippers aren't like that for this game i don't know what a you because these guys collected in the hardware that you are getting criticized about not being competitive for right in the same building as you gotta hear it all the time everywhere you go i give you that i will say i watch those two teams played last night and i know it was preseason but there was no lebron. There was no anthony davis. You did have paul george and kawhi out there and i did not see the energy from the clippers. That coach dilute his credit. Said he agency either finally spoiler alert. Time caesar's william hill given the clippers. The second best odds of winning the western conference behind the lakers but in front of some really good team spirit is. What's your bold prediction for the clippers. This regular season. Where do you think. I still think they're going to be sitting in the third seat because i don't know what's the difference between this year last year when it comes alo- management right. Is there any different. So i think i think those guys are still getting arrested. And they won't win enough games to win more than denver and the lakers think denver is real and we have to give them credit for who they are and they're not gonna lo- man as those young guys who plan they're gonna play all seventy two and i think at the end of the clippers are being that i see but can they get more chemistry out of it this year. Can they get connected. More offensively and defensively where to read and react in off of each other and playing a harp voice other and a sacrificial way. That's what we didn't see last year. They were not giving it up for each other and that's going to be the difference in a shortened season. Ken they manage those ministers and keep them healthy but can they build chemistry and show a real connection between the locker. Room guys out as good as the clippers were last year in in the good covers lasted in the regular season and then it all collapsed in the postseason. I actually think and they were better on paper last year. But i think the clippers are going to be better in the postseason. Is that the title edition. Changing from doc rivers the tight loop is going to be what they hope for strategically not generally and also helping with the chemistry. And i think that just like you said rachel. We don't know how much he has left in the tank. But i think the ability to stretch the floor for them. It's going to be big stretch five and also his ability to perhaps defend big nicole. Yokich have anthony. Davis and the procedure were mantras. Era struggled there. I think that is a big addition for the clippers in the playoffs. But we have to wait and see what i will listen to anything someone sitting in front of all those jays has to say impressed with your background. I'm impressed with all the sneakers. I do want to point out that war one of those to his wedding. That is how dedicated he is as a sneaker head. Thank you so much for for coming joining us today comeback soon. Everyone else stick around. Because here's what the junk recommends for. Today tim bontemps capping our annual nba offseason survey on the espn app. Four of the eight scouts and executives surveyed deluca for mvp. I know a couple of our analysts have picked him as well. Janas got one vote. After the break we discussed which players the better best presents left brain versus right brain. We should switch to geico. Picking up your down buddy. We could save hundreds of dollars a year on car insurance with that kind of scratch. We can get the band back together. Our union or a. We were never in a band be glenn. Let us play the tambourine onstage one time. Nc we will however put that savings towards a new interview suit logo at. I found that gyco fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percents or more. Dave mcmenamin back in the house with us. All right guys are league. Pass game the night tonight. A tough one to pick six preseason game on the slate tonight. Pelicans heat was tempting. But we're picking mavs bucks at eight o'clock eastern. Those teams met on saturday. Yana scored twenty five in twenty four minutes. Lucas scored thirteen and sixteen minutes. According to caesar's william hill luka has the best odds of winning the mvp this upcoming season right in front of us. who of course won the last two seasons. Dave you are a voter. Which player would you rather put your money on. If you were in the prediction game. I will say this if jaanus ends up signing this extension. That will give some wind in the sails walkie franchise and i could see potentially joining a very elite company in the nba by getting a third straight mvp but otherwise. I could also see there being kind of some atrophy in the regular season because it didn't work for them in the playoffs the last couple years when they went for that number one record in the regular season. So go with luca. I think jaanus is definitely going to make this a difficult decision. No matter what. But i just think local right now has been the people around him that he needs and the system that he needs to just flourish. This guy's got so much spacing around him. He's got other guys. That can take the weight off of. And i'm gonna tell you the reason i think luka to is because of an important move. They made josh. Richardson remembered at nine. This year he has a big defense of my guard. That can guard. Whoever is the best back core player so that frees up lucrative. Just play all offense if you want obviously gonna defense but josh can really take the pressure off him of defending the toughest matchup which now freeze them up to just go thing and he has no pressure on him right. He's as planned free. He's fine and i just think he's going to have a huge year this year at christmas day slot. I agree with you. Dave the hill to climb to be. Mvp this year. It's going to be a tougher climb than the previous two. I don't love the word. Vote the expression voter fatigue. I don't think the people get tired voting for someone. I just think that when you don't deliver in the post season even though it's a regular season award people value those regular season accomplishments differently. They start feeling like they're inflated or they're they're not real in the same way so it will be tough for him this year. We will see though is certainly accomplished. Plenty in this league nothing. He does surprises me. All right thanks to coach.

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Stephen Curry drops career-high 62 points

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Stephen Curry drops career-high 62 points

"In today's opening tip. Tomorrow's trying to stay in front of kevin moran because fallaway from the ball which i mean what i liked is that kevin durant can plant go both ways but no it doesn't count so to highlight is not complete. He's just coming off an injury bob. Clearly he has to take it so slow. Welcome to the job. I'm rachel nichols alongside former. Nba head coach. David phys dale. Espn senior writer. ramona shelburne. Coming up guys. Paul george devon booker got into a heated argument during the game last night. Paul said afterward he has been the target of were trash. Talk this season than in the past. Does he still have work to do to silences doubters. We're going to discuss that. I though a lot of sports is binary right. The ball goes in or doesn't it's called a foul or it isn't either you win or you don't. There is no grey area. So it's not shocking. That over this past weekend there was a lot of binary. Talk about steph curry. Especially if you go back to friday night when portland thumps. The warriors by twenty-five curry was still golden. State's leading scorer that night but even he called the evening quote demoralizing after making just four of his twelve three point attempts and finishing the game minus twenty. Seven and boy did that. Get people talking depending on which corner of the internet you hang out on. You heard steph described as either a mortared sink. Who's other-worldly trials included roster instability injuries on the box in one or as an aging over hyped role player. Who can't cross the street without a kevin durant shaped kane in his four days. The debate raged stirred further by some damian. Lillard comments about how quote it's different than the past. Four or five years for steph and that quote. He's seeing it's tough to get those quality looks now of course if you actually listen to the full interview. Lillard was not remotely taking shot at curry. He was making a much larger point. About how both for him and steph curry there is sometimes not much you can do when an opposing coach is throwing three or four defenders at you on every trip down the court. But the steph is overrated crowd grab those lillard headlines and ran with them so loudly that even steph himself. Couldn't ignore all the buzz by the time. He stepped onto the court last night for the book. End of the warriors. Game homestand against portland. He was determined that things go differently and boy did they as step brought out. All the tricks handles. Yeah check little reverse up and under the. Yeah no problem. Yeah you can just do that fast. And the threes off-balance. No problem catching shoot goodness. Oh you talking about one at a two time. Vp's right now is not the most important game of steph curry's career but it was one of the best he's ever had statistically and even in a mostly empty arena. There is that other essential part of any true steph curry masterpiece that kind of liquid joy that spills across the court and uplift an entire team like say rookie. James wiseman racked up his first career. Double double in the locker room after the game. Steve kerr gathered the team and actually said he was gonna give the game ball to weisman. Pump-faking it toward the youngster. Before then instead. Sending the ball to steph the stunt sent several guys to the four laughing and then when they met with the media afterwards. They were universal in their praise. Not just for steph game but the way he had handled the tornado of criticism all weekend think that was right up there with with the majority of them with with the best of Just because you know all talk as that's been going around. I could just. I could just see like stuff has tennessee at times to kind of to basketball. There was no you he comes. He came up and everything was shot or attack like me. I watched guys is. He never looked past one and the beginning of the game. It's crazy Your mommy two k. Because i was too far to nice dropped by sixty so just like actually washington dallas phenomenon. And there were steph himself making a last dance joke you the jordan. Maim right take all that personally i don't get frazzled too easily and very confident and who i am and No as a person as a basketball player and you know there's not going to be anything you can say about me or to me. That's going to affect. That is going to be a that kind of narrative from here on out and i love it. I had hoped for a brief moment. This deaths performance make well some of that binary talk online. Of course that wasn't going to happen even as steph was still at the podium debate was raging between the i told you so crowd versus the. Hey it's just a regular season game crew. The truth of course is somewhere in the middle steph is a generational truly great player. Who also does need to figure out this season how to make more of a nightly impact leading a depleted team. It's not a binary problem and last night's outburst cannot be the regular solution. No one can put up historic numbers. Every night does work that way but at least for forty eight minutes amid all the talk. It was steph curry. Who had the loudest word either. The ball goes in or doesn't and last night it did a lot. So physiology knew how steph curry was what stood out to you watching last night especially considering all the talk to even follow draymond green right. I mean he hit it on the head when you know your teammates. Well when they don't look to pass when the gray ones just say hell with it about to show you. You know that they're on a mission and he was on a mission. It just makes the league exciting for me because you know going into the season golden state. I was like yes. We're getting back to this and the klay go down. I think everybody kind of had the wind taken out of steph. Just reminded everybody that they're still gonna be in this fight and i think the toughest thing and the everyone's gonna watch is. Can he do it at a high level. Not sixty two at night on but the steph curry level that we've been growing accustomed to can do that on a nightly basis and get his team or chance to get into the playoffs. Well they've had so many times. Where steph curry goes off like this. But they usually have so many other people who go hunt at the staff does like rachel. I love how you put that liquid joy. He has infectious game and to do that. When there's no fans there to feed off of him into into cheer him and the warriors on. I thought that's what really made this game special but the one thing that he's been struggling with this whole time is he wants to get his teammates going right but that can't come at the detriment of his own game and his own aggressiveness. And that's what i thought. The difference was last night is that he was aggressive. He was attacking and that will feed to his teammates. Now in the past we used to refer to them as strength in numbers right why the warriors were so good. They were so deep. I don't think we appreciate it at the time. The people in oakland they appreciated the coaches appreciated it. Now we all appreciate it because steph is out there. Many nights with with a bunch of rookie's young players and kelly oubre who's still trying to find a shot so for him to do that with no crowd nobody else to feed off of. That's what was so impressive. And also by the way how draymond green plays in these games effects steph and dream on. Did not score buckets last night. Everyone's talked about his stat line with defensively. The way he played the tone. He said the way he helped enable. James wiseman. Have that double double. There is no replacement for this draymond. Green was draymond green last night and he's talked about needing a few games to take the win back into him and everything but if he can do what he did last night he doesn't have to score points and he's still makes things easier for steph and easier for the other guys around him and that is why they had so much strength and all those numbers remote a as you note. Now i know story was steph in this huge explosion last night but fiz for you as a coach the win over the blazers mapped out. Anything for you. Bigger picture about how the warriors played this season. Oh absolutely i think this is a great moment to to to really get a lift off for for their team during my green is just getting his legs underneath them. And then the steph curry. These young guys are are used to watch from a distance. They got to see it up close and all. That does is galvanized guys around you. They gain more confidence. They feel more confident and withdraw grain. I've never looked at his stat line. Other than plus minus and a lot of people don't like the plus minus category. But i always put the film together with the plus minus is not nothing and his film always says. I'm helping my team. My teammates win basketball games. I don't care about the other. Statistical categories him. I just look at that and last night. Plus twenty two draymond green is going to slowly work way back to who he is. He's got that monster. La threat down there steph curry coming along very fine. Well you know what you pointed out earlier. Rachel which i think is right on draymond green and the way. He passes the way he facilitates. That offense is everything for the warriors. And it's what steph was trying to do in his absence but that's not said can't do everything he can't score and pass and make us teammates better and defend. He's he's got a just let dream on in that role and and you saw those holly. We saw almost every single. One of them was draymond mongering facilitating. It's something that. I don't think we appreciate it. Because we talk so much about draymond as a defender his trash-talk he's a great passer. Just to absolute great passer. Wow that's a heck of a list. Don't forgive people. He's not nice. Don't let the babyfaced bajaur along with a whole lot of personal. Oh my god you talk about time. Mvp that is not easy to come by. What's arguably the greatest shooter in our game ever with this generation. Him and claire is battling over. Certainly certainly ramona just to follow up on what you said earlier. I do think him having the ball in his hands. More was a factor right and you talked about the idea that he's been trying to get everybody else. Involved in this point as drawn said he was not looking at past last. I don't know if he's going to have that many touches you at his numbers. I mean they were the highest. They have been for him. Those kinds of categories and four or five years. I don't know if he's gonna do that every night but the idea that he could be a little bit more ball. Dominant is something that i know. I heard the warriors talking about post game last night. And we'll have to see. Do you own or rent your home. Sure you do. And i bet it can be hard work. You know it's easy. Bundling policies with geico geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com a quote and see how much you could save. Its gyco easy. Visit geico dot com today. That's geico dot com. That continues going forward. Getting in the game. And i'll i'll be honest. The clippers might need this. You see paul george. Frustrated there are not many players in league history. That are better getting under your skin. And i say this as a compliment. I had a tough year last year. people think sweet people think is is sweet because i was down out of here none of this my ten years in the league but last year people living on that last year I got to answer to so a lot to digest altercation. You just saw during the clippers suns game last night and you just heard paul. George say he didn't hear as much strache king is experiencing. Now ramona are. They're still lingering. Questions about paul george on the court that he has to address yeah and there will be until they win. I don't think there's anything he can say other than winning and other than just playing great every night to silence his critics because we all know what happened the bubble last year. We all know. The clippers melted down. We all know he hit the side of the backboard okay. We all no but the thing with paula. That something that we in the media appreciate but also hurts him in some ways. He is so open. He's so telling you exactly what he's feeling in that moment. Which is great. I wanna know. Don't you wanna know makes for good. Tv makes for good stories. But i think he might have to stop that a little just like if you prick him he leads and i think he just needs to not let anyone get close to him. Don't let anyone get under your skin. Don't be so open. Don't put your guts on the floor all the time because people are using it against you at this point. I think to pardon me. disagree from the standpoint of. I do want see this more from paul. George i wanna see that god. That's ready to go to war at all costs. Who's ready to put it all on the line and show people how important this really is. Not that he hasn't before. But look at the clipper team and i see coal team. Talented hill will coach. But they got some mellow guys on that team. Play a smooth game. And i just think the team in general other than patrick beverley. I think the team needs one of those stars to bring this kind of ferocity to the table. So i think it's a good thing for him but also think devon booker is smelling blood in the west. He sees as shooting guard spot. He thinks he's the one of the things the best player the floor period which most nights he is but he's also looking at that to spa. I'm the best in the west almost show you and that is just what's going on now. It's the land of the wolves. I was interested to hear paul say. Hey it wasn't like this for my first ten years and look. That is the cost the market with more eyeballs. And i am not in any way taking a shot at indiana or oklahoma city. There is just math involved. There are more people physical people to watch what you were doing. When you play in los angeles and the advantage of that is you get more endorsements because you control an impact those eyeballs but the flipside is is that when you come up short and they unquestionably did last season. Dip more people are seeing and remembering and talking to you about it and you heard the announcer in that clip. I don't know who is on on the call thereby saying no one gets under your skin better than chris. Paul champ at that and the clippers have championship aspirations. They are truly a contender right. Okay see they were there knocking on the door. Indiana they recount. Knock on doors. The clippers are true contenders. People are gonna come after them and how they answered bill throughout the season. I think tell a lot about their overall success. I do like paul's response there and tied up in that as you put it ramona tied in with him putting all his guts on the floor with how he feels here. This the fact that he is hearing it was his response. And i'm happy with the overall comment. Because he said. I have to prove it to people. I know that i'm on a mission to do that this year. I think that's big deal to hear him. Say that a lot of credit for having that kind of accountability. And he really has since the first time. You stepped in front of a podium for the clippers this season. So i'm interested to see where we go there. And i want to talk about the other side of that match up to because the sun's tied for the second best record not in the west guys in the league at five and two our researcher. Michael schwartz could barely come to work today because of all the dancing. He's been doing for the past week. Third and defensive efficiency fourth in net efficiency and i in limiting opponents made three point field goals per game. I told you our researchers a big fan of this team. All the stats from phoenix suns. Phys are you buying untouched. Start to continue deep into the season. Absolutely i'm buying. I often as credit james jones. We're putting the awesome team together Money williams should have never been an assistant coach. This guy is a big time here. Coaching nba tactician. He gets the most out of his guys. And you're talking about chris. Paul the great competitor. You talking about a devon booker. Who's breaking into getting into conversations like mvp and you got a big time seven footer. Who's back there. Learning how to defend on a nightly basis and bring energy and effort to the gay. Am i like him. I don't know if they could hold this spot right. I think that we are looking at a playoff team. And we're looking at a dangerous team when it comes to those playoffs well look. They were a team. That was a revelation in the bubble right. Like devin booker was the star of the bubble. They were great. But when you add a guy. Like chris paul. It's the question is is it going to be a seamless transition so far it has been and i think the big staff that you put up there that is most telling to me is. They're doing it with defense. It's not just about the way. Chris paul's organising offense. The way devon booker can score the way. Bridges is hitting three pointers right now. They're like devon booker. Hasn't actually been as good as he wasn't the bubble he's five and a half two turnovers a game. He's gotta clean that up a little bit but when you have that defense when you're organized on that end of the floor you're going to be in a lot of games and i think that's where you give credit money williams and his staff for bringing this team together on that end of the floor absolutely and i think chris paul imani williams already had that connection so talking about seamless. I mean you already play for a guy you've already been in the trench with them. You know what to expect from him. Monte handed over to. Chris and now he's got a colts on the floor. I expect this team to be really good this year. All i know is when the karma fairy is walking around handing out good things money williams deserves all the all the good congress also for him and i would also say look five and to start rate is not gonna guaranteed playoff spot. It's not going to do any of that stuff. But i will say it's a shorter season. I kept a keep zanu. Each game is not one of eighty two. It's one of seventy two. That makes a difference and so these starts or something. We've got to pay a little bit more attention to. I do want to take some time to pair respects. Also to paul westfall died at the age of seventy on saturday westphal diagnosed with cancer august of last year as a player he wanted title with boston in seventy four then helped the suns to their first. Nba finals appearance in seventy six as an nba. Coach westfall went three hundred. Eighteen to seventy nine including a trip to be ninety. Three finals and two conference semifinals with the suns. He was inducted into the hall of fame and twenty nineteen and coach. Can you just tell us about the impact to paul westphal. Had i'm basketball coaches at all levels. Oh i'm a huge impact on coaches. I think what he did with. Phoenix team was fantastic. The team was so fun to watch. They were exciting. And if it wasn't for god and michael jordan you know we probably be talking about the field so this network we you know my grandfather and this is i'm black and white so i say this my grandfather would always say that's a bad. Why boy so people exactness august saying he was just he was he calm ball and i think he as a ball player he has so much respect from everyone but then as a coach i think he just had a great connectivity and guys really liked plan for them and i know some people that work for they loved working for him and it's just really sad to see it condolences to his family. Look at our career. Well his his book came out this year. So you can go and read a whole bunch more about him. I was just impressive but how long career ahead. And how much of an impact. He made as a player as a coach on so many of the great players. In this league and you talk about him as a player. He lost a bit of his career to injury when he came back though comeback player of the year. And i think i just i just look at a man seventy years old. He just got diagnosed with this real quick and so sad right now when people pass. Because there's you can't go see him and talk to them. We can't tell them you love them very difficult for a lot of the nba family because for as much as we talked about all of his contributions on the court. There isn't a person who spent time with paul westphal. Who wouldn't tell you. Oh well he was even better as a human being. I mean that's the impact he had on everyone. He touched so our condolences to his family. And everybody who loved him all right guys coming up. the jumps. longest running soap opera is back. Oh yes it spicier. Play the music stick around to find out why two fathers of kings players are starting stuff on twitter because of course they are all right back to the job. I'm rachel nichols here with coach. Davis is dale ramona shelburne. It's been a while guys but it's time it's time to bring back our longest running jump show within the show cuban music. It is time for as the kings of turn the last time we checked in on our heroes wings of change had boomed through the front office. Now there's some intrigue surrounding the former to overall pick. Marvin bagley the issue though not prompted by bagley but what twist by his father who started some drama on twitter this weekend and that led to some other players parents chiming in as well. Bag bother tweeting. And then later deleting a trade request please trade back leave third asap put in it was marvin bagley. The third not himself grandpa from head to answer questions about it after the game. Saturday full badly deflected any questions on sunday. Take a listen. Say we don't listen to any of that us within these walls within this locker and we're we're in this together so like we say good good or bad whatever people were saying. We don't know we gotta do everything we can not to let that affect what we're trying to get done here. I've for we start. Wanna say if there's no questions about the game tomorrow will be on a mile Please don't ask. i don't wanna give any give me information on that. If you don't have any questions about the attainments house game this whole hold off on those. That's the right thing for later. Say luke who is hoping that there would be no further and guess what deer and foxes dad. Aaron fox tweeted trade him. Which you not deleted by the way darren well. Here's his reaction that we started at king's turn ole man fairly east creating drama. We are just here to document the drama. The drama is just about what's happening. I wanna put an ring out. Wanna put gas days especially when guys are getting their ankles tate. We'd tape and thumbs. No more dads stay away from twenty two for that. Anyway get off at twitter and this is the world we live in people have is to access to express themselves and you know lou gave the right answer. All right there was just the right answer and you should be blocking all of that stuff out. You don't need any of that. And if marvin bagley has a problem with the way he's being utilized are always say this. Go talk to luke walton. Hadn't been on. Luke walton says. He was thirteen years. This is the coolest cat on the plan. If you can't communicate going as office communicate. I don't know what was going on so you have to go in there and be able to talk to coach now if it doesn't change then i get angry. You may have your agent. Call is only play so many games in the last two years and he's only you know what thirteen games last year. He played or something like that. So you know. I just think they gotta have better communication internally and get. Those problems solved without using twitter. 'cause that's the on that damages culture man i'm just thinking about luke. Walton having coach lonzo ball and dealt with the lavar ball experience Those of us who covered this in la like lavar. Big baller was on twitter. But he didn't really know how to use it. It's good for all of lonzo and the lakers but bad for all of us But what i would say is like marvin bagley upset. Because he's not playing in the fourth quarter all right. He's playing a lot of minutes. But the closing lineup is harrison barnes and rashawn homes because luke walton. Trust them okay. They've played a lot as you mentioned coach. He's had a lot of injuries in the past hasn't had a lot of time out better so harrison. Barnes who luke walton goes all the way back to golden state with. It's going to be out there in the fourth quarter. He's the vet. That's who they've been rolling with closing lineup. I get why his dad is mad For those of us in the basketball world. We've known his dad. He's a very vocal guy. He's very influential. That's a nice way to put it Person and marvin's life. But i think what marvins gotta do is shut down which is what he had tried to do. And and with the king's need to look at the situation and say do we actually need to trade of maybe he's got a point. They drafted him second overall. He hasn't been able to get healthy. You see these glimpses of how good he can be. You wanna keep around. Because one of these days he's going to blossom. He's going to be the player and you're always going to be wanting to say. This is why we took him over luka doncic this is why we took him over trae young i get it but there comes a point when you're gonna have to decide whether to pay him wouldn't when you. He keeps getting upset that he's not playing in the fourth quarter. If we don't see all that much progress this year. I think they should look at it. I think he would be benefit from being in a different place whether or not necessarily always have to answer. Why did you take him over. Luca danni gonna say ramona. The this is why we took him over. Luca danni that has left the station. I'm sorry there's nothing that marvin can do. There's nothing we can do. I don't know maybe if they win. Four titles with marvin. Maybe train comes back in. But i i gotta i gotta say. I wouldn't if i was making office decisions. Try to hold that up as well. We gotta we gotta keep reinvesting in this loss to you. Know not the mervyn's a loss but the decision to keep backing a bad decision to them they think will lucrative plan this well. Why marvin should be planning as well. Because this is the first time offers probably hit adversity in his life and his basketball life. So is it really his fault or is it. Luke walton fall. And this is where i think has got to kind of step back. Let the kid be a pro deal with coach face to face and solve the problem. And if you can't then you move on but you can't keep measuring yourself against luke. Lucas differ situation with the ball in his hands on side. And you play with the aaron fox whose electric so they have to figure that out. Darren fox hands down. Best comment of this entire fiasco kid. Were with you moron as the kings turn as we continue throughout this mba season as we continue through this show coming up carmelo passing. Tim duncan on the all time scoring list this weekend. How can he end up quoting. And it's crunch time here on the jump. Carmelo anthony passing. Tim duncan for fourteenth. On the all time scoring list. This weekend ramona. Mel certainly thinks he's got a few years left. How do you think he can climb that list. Look i think he can get all the way up past. Maybe hakeem this year last year. He scored eight hundred and ninety five points. K that's well within reach this year. Elvin hanes is a little above the but hayes is the little by that but i don't know if he can get quite there this year but get ahead of a key into the top ten. Yeah yeah. I think. That's real reasonable. And i think if anybody should be in the top ten score in nba history. It should be actually gets buckets in his sleep. Because i need is he. He came out of the womb. Scorn bonafide score. He's going to keep doing it to the last days that he planned nba. And when he's done with that don't go to the park and cook some little kids. What it is and i see him jumping up that list and i'm really happy for you. Mellow you just keep proving people wrong. You're almost out of the league. And now look at your ball and four big time t i would like to tell. The the mellow is not a hall of famer crowd which getting smaller and smaller by the day. Go take a look at that list. Just saying all right. zach levine. Thirty nine in a win against the mavs last night. Who were without luka doncic. Now after the game levine told reporters quote if i just went out there and shot every time could've gotten fifty labor. I'm trying to win the game coach. Wars that levine's growth. I'm really happy that he's out there and look into To to help the team win. I think he can. He can still help the team win. Because if he's capable of hitting fifty go get fifty. I guarantee you because donovan and say if you could do do it just make sure when a guy's while you're doing like steph did it. Click billy donovan coach. Guy just like his name was russell westbrook. And i think that that's the that's the the playbook you've got to look for in how he's going to coach him. How he's going to empower him because the bulls are only going to be as good as he is. I gotta give zach levine. Credit for how he handled the last couple seasons. There are some very difficult moments between the locker room and the coaching staff. And i actually thought he showed a lot of maturity through that so. I was not surprised to hear these comments last night. But you're absolutely right. Ramon on on. Billy donovan moving forward. Let's talk about january seven because starting in the league is going to require players and many team staffers to wear contacts sensors during team organized activities other than games from owner this is obviously trying to accelerate the contact tracing plan and frankly take some of the work off of people having to ask a bunch of questions and remember dates. Names the data is just be there. What do you think about that. Well people aren't going to like this because nobody likes surveillance. Nobody likes to feel like somebody's tracking them all the time. I know that was a big concern with players especially when they were wearing the ring by the way. I still got mine to you. Look at the where we got to get over that. We're we're in the middle of the pandemic and the way these outbreaks can grow within teams. We seen it in other sports in the nba. You know i just saw the story. That baxter homes head today about how exhausted trainers and people who are in charge of the protocols. Y- the anything that makes this easier and better we gotta do. We gotta get over our fear of surveillance jet for now. And i can say it any better than that. I mean you just have a bigger responsibility to. The lee is bigger than just one and i think this really takes a lot of pressure off the league and a lot of pressure off players so they don't have to keep track of a bunch of stuff like you said and if it's about playing games and keeping the guys on the court i think the players should all and everyone should all buy into this. I think is going to help us. And i want to stress. This is just for when they're at the team facility. Frankly there's cameras at those facilities. That stuff was being tracked anyway. Just not in that kind of very specific way that would help people trying to track. Cova d- so this is not for them in their free time. They do not have to wear tracker when they leave the parking lot. But the idea is that when they're in the team facility they will be able to know who is in a room with who if there is an outbreak we saw with the houston rockets early. In the season something starts ripping through the whole team. You've gotta sit guys just four contact tracing reasons they don't even have and having cove it. It can be pretty devastating. This could help all right time for our league. Pass game of the night nine games on the late tonight including mavs rockets on mba but national games. Don't count right so the challenge for the staff to pick they pick tonight the top two teams in the east both four and two of the season. Yes it's of course how you think i would be ending. That set cavs magic sexton by the way breaking out for the cavs. Twenty-six points a game good for tenth in the league the magic when scoring by their sixth man. Terence brosseau coach. Which team are you more confident. In this season. Top of these own going to say well not top of the east. But i just think the magic have been where the cavs are trying to get to have more confidence in them to take the next step. Steve clifford has done such excellent job or just a fundamental coach. Make his team be a tough out every single night. They don't beat themselves. And i'll tell you folks. I'm really happy for this kid. I think he's found the home. He's improved people forget. This guy was a top pick. Has i think they're more stable right now. I think the cavs are really young and fighting to get where the magic of already been. Yeah the cavs have been a a great story. This year i really. I'm really happy to see colin sex and taking that next step dares garland is coming right along with him and and you know for a team. That's been just the bottom of the barrel this the past couple of years. It's nice to see them. Have some success. You wanna see them build on it but the magic of the team that they were playoff team. This is a team that has won. That has knows how to win. And the thing. I'm most impressed with is a lot of their players. Heard their names and trade rumors over the season. It didn't happen. They didn't break that core. The they s- they're staying together now. Let's say that they won't okay. They could do that as the season goes on but to hear name in those rumors all summer summer ish. I don't even know if we call the name out there and then to come back and get it together and i think that they've they can build with this. They can go from here. And they've got vucevic. Then the most underrated player. I think in the league. This guy can do a little bit of everything spaces the floor. He can pass he can post. He's just a heck of a player. And i think a lot of times people sleep on. How talented and how good he really years and how he makes everyone around him. That much better to me. The cavaliers are a great example of white. Coaching matters so much franchises statement of their development. And that's not anything against coach beeline but he clearly was not the right coach for that. Young group and coach bickerstaff such a tremendous job connecting with those players. And look he was right there right on the bench and i think there was a lot of conversation between guys. There was a guy who they gravitated tour toured. And now we're seeing that pay off and as you know that makes me if you have big stars. I'm not saying anyone can cook them. But but merges are different but with the team like that makes sticks world of difference and again you're watching b. bickerstaff get to put his stamp on this group. This is his team. He's got security in his job and he. You're seeing that. This guy could. Coach is not just getting along with these guys know. This guy is preparing them and developing these guys at a high level. And you're starting to see a play out on court. Absolutely all right this just in at the buzzer yes. Today was our friend and colleague dan laboratories last day at espn the culture. You your show. Group developed over the years. The respect you have always had for your fans was always so inspirational for us at the jump. I also wanted to say personally. When i first met danny laboratory does he was known. Then i was twenty. He was twenty five. I thought the whole world he it all figured out and all these years later that is exactly how i still see it. Dan just gets it. That is the bottom line through all the years. We are going to miss him here at espn. But we wait to see what he does next. Go do you own or rent your home. Sure you do. Fortunately geico makes it easy to bundle your home and car insurance. It's a good thing too. Because having a home is hard work go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Geico dot com easy.

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What Is Eligible?

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What Is Eligible?

"If you're hiring with indeed you can post a job in minutes set up screener questions then. Zero in on your short list of qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started at indeed dot com slash. Outside Memphis played. James Wiseman when the answerable as said that he was ineligible they haven't case but that case is so wildly that'd be scalped distrupted. I don't WANNA complicate this. I just want to see him. Play basketball. Good Declare Memphis in eligible for the tournament. But this man did to David. There's still yesterday was disgraceful. We think the teams performing to the level that we anticipated. We expected it to perform it publicly while David the GO-TO wants to fire him now. This year it feels like we just have a bunch of replacement. Somehow it has gotten worse than it's ever been our the heck is that not overturn. It wasn't a good rep on the field. Put Him in charge. I don't think it's GonNa get better before it gets even worse Welcome outside lines. I'm Jeremy Schaap later in the show the New York knickerbockers you remember them. A once. Proud franchise that continues to hit new lows. We we will have the latest but first big story the University of Memphis defined the on Friday by playing perhaps most gifted freshman in the nation James Weisman who might be the first pick in the draft next June. NCAA says he's probably ineligible. MEMPHIS says that's okay. We're going and keep him in the lineup. Why might wiseman eventually be ruled ineligible because his family accepted more than eleven thousand dollars from Penny Hardaway? Twenty Seventeen Wiseman I was in High School Hardaway now Memphis coach back then. He was a high school coach in Memphis. Of course Hardaway's also Memphis lum which complicates the story so weisman transfers from his high school in Nashville. The play for hard Wayne Memphis Hardaway then becomes the University of Memphis coach in Weisman follows him to college and now we have a showdown showdown with the NCAA and for more. We welcome Jay Bilas. He's covering tonight's Memphis Oregon game. He is in the road city the game. mm-hmm is nine o'clock eastern time right here on. ESPN JAY FROM THE MEMPHIS perspective. What's the calculus here defined the NCAA? Well Memphis was sitting on the sidelines. At first and then James Wiseman and his family decided to sue and go get a temporary. Restraining order are in a in a local county court in in Memphis and got the restraining order. But that doesn't mean Memphis had to play James Wiseman so they're taking Memphis taking a risk here and it seems like the president of the university and Athletic Director. All in in saying that. Listen I know how this normally works. And we're supposed to hold the player out until the says okay. But we're not doing that. We believe in this player and and they're they're catering to their fan base and and they're gonNA fight the the problem is there's something called the restitution rule which is in Bylaw one thousand nine hundred. Which says if you do what Memphis is doing? If you go into a local court and get got a temporary restraining order and you play. When there's eligibility cloudy play a player that later turns out to be an eligible? You are subject to a long list of penalties altis and it is. It's basically a codified threat that if you go against one of our rulings we are going to hit you with a bag of hammers afterwards and that includes needs postseason bans. It could be even this year. There's a possibility that the NCAA could Could Levy postseason ban on Memphis this year in on into the future so I I can't imagine the AA is going to going to sit here. Taking this lying gown wiseman could play the whole year but but the issue is what penalties could come to Memphis if it's determined that he was indeed in eligible and play which is why chase young didn't play for Ohio state against Maryland this past weekend we understand. He's practicing today. That doesn't necessarily mean that he's going to be back on the field playing so it is unusual for schools. As you suggest Bennett uninvited tonight. Friends does that mean. The walls are crumbling. HERE ONCE MEMPHIS sets this precedent the walls are GONNA crumble. I don't think so. Oh I'm not spoken with a single administrator since this started that that would do the same thing Memphis is doing here. And that's not to say I think what Memphis is doing is wrong. It just this comes with substantial risk. There are those that feel that the rules and I'm one of them. I think the rules should change but the way is not really acting any differently in in this case than it is acted in a bunch of cases before this. So it's not like Memphis is somehow being picked on here. It is unusual to have a former great player. You're like Penny Hardaway. That was coaching in town. That has given a bunch of money to the university and late coaches some amazingly good prospects Both in summer basketball and at Memphis high school then becomes the head coach a couple of years later. That's very unusual but I think if if hardaway way had not been the head coach if he was still coaching at Memphis East I think the answer. Aa would look upon this in similar fashion. That that he's a representative the university's athletic interest. So the answer is acting like they always do but they're looked upon unfavourably in the public right now. I think it's kind of an open question as to what they're going to do next. Do they go into court now and try to remove this case to federal court. Do they fight it or do they just say hey look. We've I told you he's ineligible if you WANNA play him. It's on you but if it turns out later on that were right we are coming after you. I think it may be the latter that they decide I had to pursue J.. There are a lot of moving parts here. I mean there's also of course you know the issue of whether Penny Hardaway acting as a booster because he's donated a million dollars dollars to his Alma Mater. There's also the issue of the NCAA initially saying that this young man was eligible and and then saying they got that call wrong in recinding that call even though their protocols tell them you're not supposed to rescind it that complicates this is well. It does and I actually think that's Memphis. Best argument in this whole thing. The idea somehow that Penny Hardaway was not a representative universities. Athletic interest I think is going to be harder. HURDLE DOLE FROM MEMPHIS to get over in this but if they go with the ruling the initial ruling on May twenty ninth that that Wiseman was eligible old and then later on rescinded one thing. That's a complication in this. So if you look at Memphis statement that they put out on Friday. They said that Memphis said that they got the initial ruling May twenty-ninth that wiseman was eligible but then further information came to light that necessitated a deeper dive into this. They did jointly with the AA and did it for a period of months. That doesn't sound to me. Like the double agent said we were. We were wrong but everything's cool like just go ahead and do your thing. It sounds it. Sounds like this was more of an issue. In between May twenty ninth and October thirty one then Memphis is trying to portray but but we'll see how that shakes out in their arguments in court the NCAA decides to pursue this and challenge it. But but I look. I think there are arguments that Memphis can make and who knows. I'm not good at Predicting Court outcomes but but I think the NC Double A.'s. In a stronger position here to enforce its rules. RULES THAN MEMPHIS is to challenge. That somehow Penny Hardaway was was this. This coach that had no connection to Memphis and couldn't have known that that somehow he would ever be the memphis coach or things like that. I don't buy those arguments. Maybe maybe a judge will but I don't and to be clear Wiseman is a remarkable young player. I mean mean he could be the first pick in the draft next year. Maybe Memphis says you know what whatever happens after he's gone happens but this is too good an opportunity for or are fans for the team even if they strip us of a national title to just surrender it's the NCAA is that maybe what they're thinking. Well a little bit. James Wiseman is a great prospect. Chris Bosh type player. That could be the number one pick. He's also a great young man. There's no indication that he had any knowledge of any of this. But what what appears to be unquestionable is that that his mother took eleven thousand five hundred dollars from Penny Hardaway for relocation expenses to move from Nashville to Memphis. So that wiseman could play for Penny Hardaway Memphis ice-cool that appears incontrovertible so as fact so that's really the biggest issue here but what your point. WHAT MEMPHIS is doing? Their fan base is completely behind this. They WanNA fight right the NC double A.. And they want wise men to play and they're basically saying look. Let him vacate all this stuff later. So what let let's we. We're on a roll. Our football ball teams doing well. We fired Tubby Smith. We brought in penny hardaway just like everybody wanted and was chanting for well while Tubby Smith was there so the idea that this was unforeseeable. I think is nonsensical but they want wise men to play and they're willing willing to risk whatever consequences come their way but but the consequences. Jeremy I think could be severe if it turns out that Wiseman was indeed ineligible and played for any length of time well in eligible more and more though it seems like the the. NCAA is under siege on several fronts. Jay Bilas thanks for having joined us. Natter the pros or the so-called pros anyway and the team that James Wiseman might find himself playing for the New York Knicks team largely irrelevant for the last twenty years. New York hasn't won a title in forty six years and counting. I think this past off season when they were hoping to land some big free agents they suffered the double indignity of signing. None of the big ones Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving chose instead the cross town Brooklyn Nets. It was more than a decade ago. The David Stern the commissioner described the Knicks as not a model of intelligent management. The owner. Jim Dolan is widely reviled. The team presence. Steve Mills is considered inept and so of course it is the coach. David Phys Dale. Who might be on the way out? Here's Today's back page of the Daily News. And here's mills at a press conference Sunday after the Knicks fell to eight Scott. I are not happy with where we are right. Now we think the teams not performing to the level that we anticipated we expected to perform met. And it's something that we think we collectively have to do a better job of delivering the product on the floor that we said we would do with the start of the season season for more. We welcome Ian Begley of sports net. New York who has been covering the Knicks through much of their recent travails in we can talk about about Steve Mills. We could talk about David Phys Dale and we will but isn't the heart of the matter the fact that you can't fire the owner you know the the owner has been here through much of the disasters of the last twenty years but I will say this by large since Phil Jackson came aim. Honest team president. Jim Dolan has essentially let the top executive for the Knicks make basketball decisions. He's got involved here and there as you would expect any owner would but he's been mostly hands off so for the Knick fan out there that's still wants to blame everything on Jim Dolan. I think you have to look at the executives in these situations. Because they've had the freedom to make the decisions that they've wanted executives he chose correct kerr executive executives chose particularly when you talk about Steve Males. Because if you go back to after the Knicks fired Phil Jackson the caveat for all the people that they were talking to to potentially come in general manager. was you have to work under. Steve Smells and that was a condition that several of their top candidates including David Griffin weren't interested in so that was a reason why you end up with the Mills Perry Pairing and here. We are sitting at two and eight after summer where they were so much expectation for this group. You mentioned it they were. They thought they had a good shot. Getting Kevin Durant Kyrie irving they come up empty. And now you're here and you have four twenty point losses for the Knicks. The first ten games and we're talking about potentially firing during the coach and I think the front office isn't safe and it's just a mess again here in New York. So so what is the next step here. I mean we're hearing reports that the foundation his been laid for the dismissal of David phys. Dale is that what you're hearing now at this moment. There's no doubt I mean reading between the lines of that press conference on Sunday night whenever the top executives of the basketball team come out to address the media after twenty point loss. That's never a good thing and I'm sure the message from them was. Hey we're on this together. We're all accountable for what's gone wrong here. But when they talk about the lack of consistent play and the idea that in in the short term future they need to see improvement. David Fidel is certainly in the crosshairs. But that doesn't absolve mills and Perry from blaming I'm told from. MSG Gee people that the idea. That mills in Perry won't be held accountable for what goes wrong. Here is inaccurate. A lot of people think that if the Knicks continue to be noncompetitive throughout out this season Milton Perry will be out after the year and the Knicks will be searching for their next top guy sometime in April and some names have already been floated. Who knows by whom? But they're out there in the rumor mill including executive who had a pretty good spring up in Toronto? What are you hearing on that front? Any team with an executive opening would be coveting Messiah Usury. I mean there's no doubt it's obvious but with the Knicks. It's a little bit different because there was strong interest just MSI in two thousand seventeen and clearly. The Mills Dynamic didn't work from a size so nothing came to fruition but Jim Dolan. He's been on the wrong. The end of a couple of massage trades the first one was the Carmelo anthony deal when I was in Denver. And then you look at the Andrea Bernani trade with Toronto when Messiah was running the Raptors. So Jim has an inherent respect for Messiah. And I think he's going to be at the top of the list if the Knicks and do decide to make changes at the executive level after after this season kind of bigger picture. And we're talking about a franchise where if there's an operative word it seems over the last several years. Anyway it's hopelessness looseness. How do you fix that? How do you fix that cultures? It is simple. It's hiring a better executive. I mean the quick fix always looks like it's right around the corner but it never seems to happen. You know the interesting thing if you look at this past twenty years yes. There's been so much off the court drama so much of a circus. It's like atmosphere around here. But the Knicks also haven't done a good job of developing their young players developing the young talent. And now you have. Rj Barrett and he's looked pretty good good through the first ten games. And if you can develop a player like RJ and he becomes the face of your franchise then you can attract free agents. I think that's the best way forward for the Knicks developing a young core and then bringing in the star that they've long coveted. It's been a long time since one thousand nine hundred seventy three in Begley knows that as well as anyone Ian thank you for joining us up next strong words about NFL officiating and pass interference fiasco debacle and unutterable calls. That's next hey. I'm Andy if you don't know me it's probably because I'm not famous but I did start immense grooming company called Harry's the idea for Harry's came out of a frustrating experience I had buying razor blades. Most brands were overpriced over designed and out of touch. At Harry's our approach is simple. Here's our secret. We make sharp durable blades and sell them at honest prices for as low as two dollars. Each we care about quality so much that we do some crazy things things like by a world class German blade factory obsessing over every detail means we're confident and offering a one hundred percent quality guarantee. 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John Parry Harry Nineteen Years in the League as an official John. How do I put this? What in the name of Ad Hoc Kelly is going on here? I'm not sure it the snow. At this point that level is so high and this new twenty nineteen replay. A review change has really magnified officiating. Eighty nine week in and week out. -ficiating seems to be front page news. Yeah the whole point was to make it impossible to get calls. I like or non calls like we saw at the end of the NFC title game the saints in the Rams but if that play happened today at the end of one of these regular season games what would be the call what it ended up being reversed and reviewed very good question. I think right now based on ten weeks of football football I would probably say that that actually stands. I mean it had two issues. It had helmet-to-helmet contact which may be personal fouls and fifteen year. Penalties would have been something better to review rather than such a subjective rule like pass interference. We've been made to understand that before the season Zain started Al Riverine the head of officiating. You know showed everybody how this was going to work and here were examples of how it was going to work and it who is going to be applied more often but it seems that what's going on now is not in conformity with the examples that were given at that time. Why hasn't that happened? Yeah I would definitely agree with you. It has changed from where we were in March. April may June to where we are today. We took a look at the cooks folks play in the Super Bowl and they said we probably would have created pastor ferrets. We have seen plays that are even bigger than that where the play continued to stand Nia so the the bar the raise the level. I'm not sure if anybody knows that right now and of course one of the issues as you have pointed pointed out is that the officials don't seem exactly to know how to call these plays now. What the standard is going to be used said that when it comes comes to? Pi Calls this season. The psyche of the Onfield official has changed. How so will look you make your call on the football field? Let's assume that you throw for pass interference and now you're over communicating with the head coach and you're taking a look at that jumbotron. Your heart tells you you know what I. I wish. This was a little bit more. I wish I would have maybe kept the flag in my pocket or the opposite can take place and we're looking at that but then twenty thirty seconds later what happens. Replay confirms that potentially to technical call. Stand so we've got incorrect calls. That are standing standing on Sundays during games. We're also hearing now. John that certain situations we just saw the end of the Arizona Tampa Bay game when it's a Hail Mary or something in the same family. The same ballpark. If you will is a hail Mary that the rules should be applied the same way on pass interference. How does how does does that work? How are you supposed to make? How are you supposed to make that right why I think one of the issues that we had coming into? This was different standards on Field L.. Standard coaches standard replay officials standards New York Command Center Standard Four different standards. And then you throw in Hail Mary Great and for Years We have officiated Hail Mary a little bit different. Not that it should be but you wanted something big as far as take out. Excuse used me rather than just something that's potentially technical call. So Do you feel at this point John that wants the playoffs roll around or even the Games that are determining playoff positioning right before the playoffs were to begin that they're going to be looking at this differently than they are now after week ten. Well the they've really boxed themselves into a corner at this point because we have gone ten weeks we've seen ten fifteen maybe twenty plays that could have been reverse pass. Interference should have been created or or taken off. Now you go in two weeks fifteen sixteen seventeen. We're getting into the playoffs offices. Huge let alone once you're there and we have a play like you're showing is it is it not and we don't make the change and the team continues deep into the playoffs. If you got a phone call today from Roger. Goodell John you around for two decades. How do we fix this? What do you tell them? And take the earpieces out of the official. You know. We've got this OTO system. which is what it's called where there's constant chatter constant communication with the officials went the replay officials with New York? I think it affects the focus. I wore it for four or five years. Didn't like it at times I would take get out of my ear so I could focus on the game at him. 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"We want the best of both worlds. We want a hybrid a smarter hybrid cloud approach. Ibm helps retailers. Manage supply chains with watson ai while predicting demands with ease the world is going hybrid with ibm visit. Ibm dot com slash. Hybrid cloud nichols joined by our resident. Coach david phys mba champ. Kendrick perkins and perk. I know you are in texas right now. How is everything with your family. Is the purpose. Family rates are not thanks. Thank you fags. And i appreciate all the love from. Espn for my house of with their. Yesterday i'm in wholesale and now thirty eight. My wife wasn't no she said. Oh i've been wanting to change the way pay for it. But stupidly i posted these pitches to remind people allowed the people going through in the state of texas and to pray for not only me before the ones who don't have a houses in the less fortunate will kayla poets get. These problems spits because a lot of people are dealing with these same issues as you see those pictures. They're rough state of affairs perkin. I was talking off the air. You know texas has gone through it from a weather standpoint when you talk about. They got fifty. Five inches of rain dumped on them. Not too long ago one sitting and now they have. This saw a lot of people have been going through some really tough stuff and you put covert on top of that. All you do is pray for people with. Hopefully a lot of people will give and try to help people that are in need absolutely and pushed the local government to take care of the people responsible. For just say you are guys wishing the best to everyone out in texas. Hope you get some enjoyment out of our basketball show here coming up. The bucks have lost four games in a row but youngest gupo says not time to panic. What is bothering milwaukee. right now. we will discuss that. I though a lot of what determines whether something is successful depends on the conditions around it. For example there's a catfish that scientists say can regularly swim thousands of miles a year. But you take it out of the water can't flop for more than even a few feet. The conditions radically change what. The fish is capable of. The same is true in the nba. This year where we have seen a huge change in conditions due to covid practice time severely limited players constantly rotating in and out of the lineup. Teams often can't even meet all in the same room which means to hardly anyone's been able to hone the kind of schemes and communication that make for good defense and the results have led to a staggering change in what's normal teams are averaging one hundred twelve points a game this season that me highest mark in the past fifty years. Meanwhile what used to be a terrible defensive rating is now merely average. Five years ago the lakers had the worst defense in the nba. They were defending at that exact same rate today. They rank in the top half of the league. So what happens when conditions. Shift this drastically. Well enter the nets a team with limitless offensive potential but plenty of weaknesses defensively and in a normal year. That might mean brooklyn could only climb so far in the standings in a normal year. Chemistry problems might arise from the fact that k. d. kyrie james harden have only been able to play seven games together so far but in this year in these conditions. The nets are thriving. Take last night's game against the suns who had been thriving themselves in this over caffeinated season. Both the rant and kyrie we're sitting with injuries and phoenix took advantage early with yet. An explosion of offense devon booker was cooking. The sun scored forty two points in the second quarter alone. Phoenix leads seventy five to fifty four halftime. Seventy five a halftime which would have been notable except for how the nets were then able to storm back getting a huge boost from its role players. Not only tighten the score but actually defended enough to stop the bleeding. Still chris. paul was out there looking more like twenty five thirty five. He scores the sun's final. Eleven points straight including this little bit of point guard magic there as nice and then three. Yeah after three chris. Paul james harden right there with him get the little finger roll toward nice then with thirty one seconds on the clock. Yep it's the pull up m money. The nets hold on to win. It was the biggest second half comeback in franchise history. Because of course it was in this season. We see records being broken. Nearly every single night in this season conditions are different some teams are going to be able to swim a whole lot further than they might otherwise no one more so apparently then the brooklyn nets so per what was the most impressive part to you of the nets comeback last night it was on and i think he gave us all the friendly reminder on why he led the league in scoring for three straight years when you look at this big grey and brooklyn when they all three on the court together. James takes a back seat and sacrifice boots at for position where we always questioned. Why is james on getting fencing. A why he only took twelve says but he also was also lead the league in assists but with kevin durant can read urban. Been out james on said you know what. Let me remind the world that i put the ball in the basket in great fastest and he needed just that against the phoenix suns to employees have been on the test so when i look at what happened last night. James harden was the most impressive thing because dealing with this situation. We don't know what can happen. In the post season kevin durant might be out on a course of the series and james wanted might have the and go for on the of also. I was more of crest by giants in the way that dominates that secondhand park. I think you hit it on the hairbrush. But i i off. Phoenix is a team. That's learning how to do it for forty eight minutes night in night out. So you're going to see. Phoenix have losses like this. This is going to happen as they mature around chris. Paul crowder veterans like that. But would that be an essay of what i think the credit really should be gone shaam marks and roster constructs it because not only does he have big time stars on his team that can carry united night out of somebody's out but the row players. They got really good role players. They're so deep they got guy. Tyler johnson who is the third point guard on their teams scoring seventeen last night. We know what joe harris can do. They got multiple guys. That can shoot all get it going and not shots and when you put a guy like it could be jan-harm k. d. one night and kyrie's the guy carreno katie carrying them without the other guys. That's how talented they are. That's how the roster's constructed and they collided on any given night. Well it's funny. You mentioned sean marks. Of course sean. Marks and steve. Nash got to know each other. Not in brooklyn but when they were teammates back in phoenix and in fact the crowd last night in phoenix gave a huge ovation. To steve nash steve. Nash of course made a joke. That robert server was still making money off of him because they let extra last night but that whole team right. You've got steve nash at the helm coaching. You've got amari stottlemyre there on the coaching staff. Of course mike d'antoni also on the coaching staff. A lot of phoenix connections. It was nice in the building last night. And of course as you note. Sean marks as well. Let's move on guys to the nuggets. Nikola jokic scoring forty three of denver's ninety nine points last night but it wasn't enough to beat the celtics on the road. I i should note that you could score just four of those forty-three in the fourth quarter. But after the game nuggets coach mike malone was very quick to clarify. It wasn't yoga to needed to do more. Take a listen. Running out of gas needs help. You know what. I mean No we're playing back to back tomorrow night. And every night nicole goes out there and literally puts his team on his back and You know just needs some guys to step up and help them. But you know jamal try to get going but you know you can't have nine turnovers on the roads are starting guard and he knows that You know other guys have to find ways to contribute but speaks to how well in the coldest playing He leaves it all out every night. That's why is an mvp candidate obviously You know but it's it can't be just one guy in this league you need other guys to step up and contribute and hopefully we'll get that tomorrow night mentioned before Thought larger android guy guys. Not that competed at a high level. Didn't necessarily shoot the ball. World didn't necessarily defend well at all times but for the most part it wasn't because of lack of effort so park you heard coach malone. They're saying other guys need to step up around yokich. I know you are not afraid. My friend to name some names so go ahead. who is he talking about. He saw the tomorrow. Murdered me point blank when you think about it. Jamal murray gave us. They're great sample size. In the bubble last year in the postseason and we said hey. We is iran's superstar where he has not lived up to this season. his season average. This season is the same as last season at a regular season and that is not enough we are looking for big things of has elevated is gang. It's time for jamal. Murder to the same nineteen points tonight is not going to cut it. He needs to be in twenty five twenty six point range and he was talkin. I'm gonna put an address on on foot. Mike coach mike malone was talking to jamal murray. That's one of the guys part but also thinking talking to porter jr. some respects to donate and so when you got that score and bunches score score and his his thing you so would a donut and you gotta figure out ways to score. It can't be. I didn't get about plays call. I didn't get a pass. You gotta go get some easy buckets. You gotta run the floor. You gotta go get off the rebound put back. You gotta make back cut. You gotta get yourself going somehow. I remember a lotta times of day would always say if i could get a couple of layups everything else is going to be going from. If i can get out everything else. Get going for some reason. The puerto junior didn't have that in game last night he didn't have that that force in his game and i think he will respond. But i agree. Jamal murray wanted a guys that no one's going to be harder on themselves then. A guy like jamal murray. But i think to jamal murray has got to start playing in the now. He can't be worried about last year's bubbles and all of these expectations and all of that crap. That's noise ego driven crap. He needs to just get that noise out as hey of focus in on being the player that he can be night in night out and play in the now. Don't worry about was don't happen later on or what people are saying. Well that is very good advice. Coach and by the way when coach refers to the donut. He's not talking about crispy cream. He's talking about the score sheet. So yes absolutely coach. He got to find other ways to contribute. Alright guys coming up on this show. Diangelo russel slated to have knee surgery. It's going to keep him out at least a month. So where do the wolves go from here. They just got cap back and healthy. We'll discuss do own or rent. Your home share. You and i bet can be hard work. You know it's easy. Bundling policies with geico geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Its gyco easy visit. Geico dot com. Today that's geico dot com former all star guard. Diangelo russel will undergo arthroscopic surgery. Today it's going to remove a loose body in his left knee. Whenever i have to say that sense it's always kinda creepy anyway acted to miss four to six weeks when the wool trade for russell more than a year ago. They of course envision pairing it with his friend. Karl anthony towns. That duo though has played a grand total. This is incredible. Only five games together since the trade due to various issues injuries. of course shutdown coach viz. Where does the wolves go from here. Cat just came back from his battle with covid. Daniel is out for more than a month. Thank the wolves are going to take a deep breath right now and chill out and be patient because this is what they've had to deal with. This is these are unforeseen circumstances that have come up over. They've gotten de low when you talk about colds bubble. Just everything. That's happened to. To karl anthony towns and his family. And now this deal i think he just got to be patient because one thing you know when both those guys are healthy and playing they are good basketball players and omitting nights they could be great and i think what that friendship you just gotta wait it out and good things start coming their way other guys feel roles that they're not normally used to fill it. They'll get better in that just because they have that experience and those touches and those opportunities and so once they do get totally healthy. There'll be a better basketball team. But they're stuck right now where they are. They got a good coaching staff. A hell of a culture ryan sanders and those guys are stick together. Hopefully they can get back to a place of health absolutely and look. We all awaiting to see this duo perform together own accord and we will and you write coast. They have to be patient. But here's the opportunity for that number one. Pick to be able to speak with a little bit more and have the ball in his hands in anthony was. I think this is a time now. You know you're not really playing anything. And i know it's early in the season but we don't take a rocket scientist to see. They're not gonna make the playoffs hand keys over to the ball out. Let him get his feet wet. Let him get his up so let him get his minutes and his touches so when he goes into next season he already has played through his mistakes and he's learned the game so dead now instead of having a big to dynamic to. They got a big three. So i think this is great. Fanton meal with o'brien last night you could see the smile. The confidence straighten up a little bit after that. It's those experiences that builds your nba career. But still see it. Believe that number five dangelo. Russell and cad have only played five games together since trade. Just a run of bad luck there. All right guys coming up. We're gonna talk bucks. Janas says it is time to panic after milwaukee watts. It's both straight last night. We will listen to exactly. His words are bucks reporter. Eric woodyard is gonna join us as well up next on the jump in one day be with us. Forty nine old. We're not going home. You know so still here. He's not he's not the playoffs. Obviously it's forthright in. You know you want to win one special again. This game guys playing hard. We have to be better and obviously one of our best players in the team play makers and best defense team team's not playing thassos is not an excuse. I'm not that guy that gives us uses. But he's a big part of who we are you know and We needed kind of how the food that everybody's in a panic mode which is should not be the case. We should keep improving. We should keep improving. She keeps playing the best which the film and at the end of the god compete in. When you can't hear nothing can be. Our next guest is our nba reporter. Eric woodyard welcome back. Eric always so nice to see you and we just heard janas urge everyone following the bucks not to panic. I think this is just fascinating right. Everyone told milwaukee for the past couple years. Hey what you did in. The regular season doesn't matter. It's all about the play offs. Then they spend the regular season tinkering. Eric and they lose some games and people are panicked about the regular season. You're with the bucks all the time. What is going on right now. This a few different things. Obviously as you stated. You can't underestimate the fact that jrue holiday is. He's a big partner team. Big play maker does a law for this team on both sides of the ball disrespect to bring forbes and those guys but they're not him so i think that's the number one thing number two. This team has struggled to close out games. You look at them. Interim four quarters when they're down inter going into the fourth quarter their own eyes so they they need to learn how to close games out you. Can you can date back to numerous occasions. Starting you know when they played the celtics early in the year they were just on our air. Plan to phoenix suns. You know closing. Those games is going to be huge for them. Something when you factor out factor in both of those things. That's the problem with this team book as you said. There's no panic. Front office smokes from the front office. Today said the same thing. No panic mode. It's just a part of growing pains and just re shifting their focus from regular-season mo to trying to become better team when it matters and air. What would everything that you said. And you're right. It's not. Tom panic but it is time to have some concerns and to me. Books have lost a identity not on offense ban but on the defensive in i'm used to seeing a book steepest that played boxes and elbows. Don't allow teams to get into the paint. A team that says and make guys miss. Don't hope that mistake content shots they have two guys that a good defense and is andrew lopez. They're not doing that. They're not making those extra place and then by the way i'm gonna say another thing. A lot of teams around the league. Do not feel there. No more the miami. He exposed a hand last year. And that's what happened. So teams are saying you know what out we have to do is load up and take this away and we beat the books so the bucks are going to have to find a way to get their identity back and get this swaggie drill back and mateen spilled him again. He hit on the head part. I think he said it right. A holiday is huge for them because he addressed the biggest issue that obviously those past teams have which was playmaking and that has a lot to do with closing games. Usually play on the floor with us not office of said or call to make plays and go get baskets when you want to close out games so right now without holiday. They are missing. But i agree with him. Do not panic have urgency. But don't panic. Get into your film. And i guarantee you what a team does good. That's had regular season success like they had a great coach but their address in two issues. Focus an effort. They're not doing it consistently for forty eight minutes a game on both ends of the floor. You see two turnovers that they have very uncharacteristic. You see the mistakes on the defense of that. They're making which obviously practice has something to do with that. We talked about that earlier. For milwaukee team. We're used to seeing lockdown. That's uncharacteristic bill address it absolutely and guys look. It's a long way to go. I know we're past the third way mark of the season. I know everybody up. There is nervous. We we have to at least give them a chance to work this out before as yonder says everybody panics. I want to move onto damian. Lillard guys the blazers up to fourth in the west after beating the thunder last night dame has kept them afloat in the absence of cj mccollum. Pitch still out. eric. I know you're working on a big game story. So give us a little preview. Tell us where you think dame lies within the mvp conversation right now to definitely take. He's in the conversation. There's no denying that you know you see what he's been doing this season. He's been he's been damian. Lillard become accustomed to the latest example. Last night another the example. Dang time when he's in a conversation. Lebron james is still at the top of my personal opinion. Nicola yokich joel be. Those are some of the names. Dame's should be mentioned in that. Conversation put some respect on his name like burma say. I think he's his mentality was a little different. You know coming into this season. He tried as a boxer. I'll know of many people know vase. Not just a social media. Thing shameless plug. That's the story and i'm working on. He's trained as a boxer. He's really he's contact with andre ward. He's in contact with terence crawford. He's in contact with these great trade of the five to six days a week. Not only internet season going into the bubble when you saw that scorn average go up because that aggressive is up for him training as a fighter and he say that mentality so. I think that's really helped him this year and he should be Mvp conversation for sure. Oh he definitely is. He's top bob. My book and i mean literally you can make the case of them number one especially with cj out murkiest band out and the way that he's been care and his team we don't hang dollar complaining about nothing goes out and delivered. He delivers great fashion from time and time again in no disrespect curry best point in the game that they i look a little bit because not only is he twenty nine to thirty point also keep you around seven eight of his the night also and he's caring is fine size. He's on the crime has been out for almost a month now and it has been no slippage so dane diesel dane. Dollar ain't should be top five in the bottom line. And then they both guys are totally right. The guy does his job as a superstar. Don't care who's on the court with them. He don't care if he's got the best players in the world players. This guy comes out night in and night out a he performs as a superstar would no matter what the conditions and that is what i love about. And that's get this on the record out of all of 'em vp candidates. We just name. Is there any one guy. That's more clutch. Then dang dollar. That knows the big thing. I wanna posted a group because this dude heads big shots all the time. It's just so normal when he gets the ball at the end of the clock or to end up a game. We just expect that. Dan dollar is gonna hit that shot. And that's a testament to his greatness being able to focus in that moment and so. I think that's what makes them different and i just love watching them play. I'm a fan of his. I think he's a class act and he's he's really plan out of high level absolutely and you can find out where damian lillard ranks in the clutch. That's for the nba. What his boxing. Routine is like all from reading. Eric story arc. It's not a shameless plug. That's just plug plug. That's a good thing people want to read. Thank you so much for joining us today. Sir comeback soon. We'll siege in the road coming up guys on this shows i williamson has played in fifty career game. So that's a good round. Mark perkin coach visits are going to evaluate zion performance at does far in his young career. Stick with us. You're watching the taxi and shake the search last night at thirty one point seven rebounds six assists in a blowout win over the grizzlies. After the game. Stan van said quote. We keep trying to find more and more ways to use zairean. Why not if you're coach. I and his now played fifty. Nba games. He scored at least twenty points on fifty percent shooting. Thirty four of those outings. That's tied with shack for the most in the last forty seasons michael jordan did that twenty nine times biz. How do you evaluate zion when you look at him now over these first fifty game. We have a little bit of a simple size now. I mean first. Office everything i expected. This guy is different. he's special. I mean whatever you want to put on it. That's what he is. The only question about zion was always kenny. Stay healthy and they've done a great job with that. He's he's in great shape and like you said stan has trying to figure out more ways to use this guy earlier. You know few shows back a said it. This guy is going to be one of our top scores. Top rebounders top playmakers. He has all an ad in his bag. And i know people may think of off with this comparison but he reminds me so much from a skill standpoint with power of charles. Barkley if you watch old charles barkley failed. mark had handle barkley. brigham coast to coast barkley pursued threes. He was unstoppable. One on one in the post he passed the ball out of the post and he was a relentless competitor. He was physical soul. When i look. I see that body of work. It's just in a bigger body and that's what makes him scary a man as he fun to watch and i'm just loving every minute of it. Absolute lou is boxoffice and he has lived up to expectations and the height dead body frame. That's a break train calm. But i'm so. I'm more impressed by his work. How multiple years at size. He reminded me a walk. Yes but he also refined. I'd you'll kid by the name change because that big with those break beat in the way that he's able to move in agile years he is best show style. Oh my gosh. Watching him is so fun. We had so many expectations for him. Perk what what is this matched up in terms of. We know he's he's great. We talk about his project future but when he when he left duke and got drafted number one. Did you expect him to look like this. As a player i did the way that he dominated college. I knew that he was gonna come into the league and do the same thing because he's somethin'. They're really we'd never seen before he's physical. He plays with the energy level. That i really don't see a lot of superstars play with and that energy level is like a joke nor where he is more of a skill. I see him diving on the floor for loose balls making those winning plays in having a half motor and mental. Would he already have is a major plus absolutely i. He's just fun. he's so fun. Last night was a great game and those two are going to go at each other for a long time. all right. let's move on. Because adrian were ski reporting that on a call with league general managers yesterday. Commissioner adam silver told top team executives that the league as he's been saying wouldn't jump the line of the general public to get vaccines but he did suggest an optimistic time line that included the possibility of late march and early april for the star player. Vaccinations sources said now. Even though that's an extremely fluid timeline. Many of the league's top players are continuing to express apprehension about receiving the vaccine as well as accepting invitations to participate in league sponsored public service announcements to bolt bolster broader acceptance of the coronavirus vaccine now according to sources number of factors are contributing to players. What they're telling union reps what. Their reluctance is to participate. Includes uncertainty about taking the vaccine themselves. Reluctant to advocate. It's used for others. And also a lack of trust first of all in the government and in the league to some respect especially after all these issues with the all star game but there was really interesting to see. Numerate those in his report and fizz. What would you say to a player on your team about the coronavirus vaccine especially understanding the situation. A lot of these players are in with not having public trust in a government that is compl- that is earnt see that is desperately earned that they don't have trust there. Well the reality is that seventy plus percent of the league is african american. Right and so the demographics does it change just because you put a logo on your jersey. The african american community community as a whole is vaccine hesitant because of the past how to government has dealt with our community. And don't they start community from a medical standpoint that obviously creates pause and so that doesn't change just because guys are in the league and so we have to be my for that. And i remember when i was trying to get guys to get flu shots and i didn't have. Education is still thinking as an african american kid that grew up in a neighborhood that was fearful of doctors a lot of way and i sat down with dr callahan. The knicks broke down the flu shot. She got all of the misconceptions out in front of me and told me you know the truth about the vaccine and i sat down with the player. She sat down with the players. We gave them the education so now they could make a sound decision based on facts and we had a big plus guys that did it and we created her to mutiny on our team and i respected the guys. That didn't wanna do it and we didn't shame them or do anything like that but we tried to give them all of the information that we could possibly give of so they can make a sound choice right and rights. I think the big word that stood out to me that you said it's trust right and not only do the players not trust the government. But they right now they don't trust the nba. No more because of what's going on with the all star game right you know the nba gone back on a word and you know. It was so many times that i was saying that. Especially in the bubble how the players association in the nba will come together and there was a beautiful thing to see why i think the all star game caused a bit of separation in that trust again and i think villawood this kobe in his vaccine situation. This is a chance for the nba to gain that trust back for their players. Now what i would do is if i'm the nba. I will make it optional. I will say look. The vaccine is available each individual plan. You can choose your round on how you want to go by that whether you want to take the not is your choice. I wouldn't force it. I wouldn't do a committee. Bolton i will let each individual person your side whether or not they want to take the vaccine and i will say i think the issues between players in the nba. Right now it's more of a speed bump. I think there is a basic trust between the league and the union. I think that has been built over the years. And i think it's still exists but there is a little speed bump right now and then the lack of trust of what you were referring to visit. If people don't know coach visits talking about look up the testy tuskegee study. Look up of the treatment of americans by the medical community over the centuries in this country. And you understand why there is. But i will say i will say that the nba has done. What you did fizz is that they have put their chief medical officer who is an african american man in front of their players and said hey have some mandatory zooms here and get educated rachel. Vaccines aren't even begin to african american community today. Why should they trust. They can't even get the vaccine in their communities is totally disproportionate. Why people to black people a hispanic latino people this like double. That aren't getting the vaccine because they don't have the availability. So why should they trust. The medical feel very complicated and of course you have. The players of the nba affected just like the general public is at our league. Best game of the night. Jazz and clippers ten eastern all right. Let's look on the red hot jazz one. Nineteen out of twenty games. They haven't since january thirty first guys utah top-five and offensive and defensive rating this year. So coach biggest reason for the jazz success. Their offense or their defense neither they think in the collective they do not have egos. You don't know who's the star night in night out a lot of times when we know donovan mitchell has star explosiveness but every night they get so many different contributions. It's all about team fidel. Absolutely they have guys that are stars and they rose was so neil as underrated two way player ingles. He plays his road rage. I'm go on john. Clubs of the time is short bulldog later. Take us all five offense top-five indeed vet is so impressive and the creek there. We'll see but continues against the clippers tonight.

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MLK Day in the NBA

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MLK Day in the NBA

"We want the best of both worlds. We want a hybrid a smarter. Hybrid cloud approach with ibm helps banks personalized experiences with watson. Well helping keep data secure. The world is going hybrid with ibm. Visit ibkr dot com slash hybrid cloud arts league regarding are still show up a lot this season freshly j. I'm extremely committed to it. Lowered begging change. Take different than i think. We all have a responsibility. Birth better than was found. Not just for today but moving riding calendar year into listen to our communities or people see ways we can help was before my life. I was young black men in this world. You know trying to find ways to still have friends and family in that situation on their voice. There's just a difference in education equality and all fronts notice world but education. A big piece committed to say in the advancement of my community than african americans. But at the same time committed people doing right by everybody and to see that. Everybody's treated fairly so then that always try to find ways to get back for it okay especially in homage to him So looking forward to door. What a perfect tone setter for today. Now the timber. Wolves and hawks tipped off a few minutes ago special. Mlk day game. The hawks sporting they're amazing uniforms. Mlk seemed and we're gonna take you behind the scenes of the hawks effort to pay homage to martin luther king later in this show so stick around for that robert ory. What did it mean to you to play. Martin luther king day for me. It was so special because when i first got into the nba. He wasn't a official holiday. So now it is. A holiday in these teams get recognized. Mlk day in go out and present to the people. What their message is it for me. I remember the special mlk day. It's it's kinda off the topic but it was implicated in memphis and we plan and all of sudden someone tests me on the shoulder in his morgan freeman. Why and i'm like god talk me by. Mlk day. and i'm like a little kid in the candy store just sitting watching him and appreciate this guy who's so much who's been around. And he was basically living legend so that was a special moment because if we wouldn't have mlk day. I'd never got a chance to meet him in. That moment would have never happened. That's awesome. that's amazing. I mean for me I was the first time head coach. black head coach when i got the memphis job and you know to go to the to the spa about anything else but to play on that day as such honor would you know and understand what others had gone through before you To to be able to get in the spot that you're in so that's what that day. I think really means and i really believe that the nba is doing such a great job of really understanding what it means ultimately about being a servant serving the community a day of service and so Our guys understand that. And i think very it is. It is really remarkable. I love that evolution from when there was no. Mlk to now how we see things. Welcome to the jump. I'm rachel nichols i'm alongside indeed. Nba coach our head coach. David phys dale and seven time champion. Robert ory got james harden posting a triple double in his nets debut over the weekend. He said it was easy out. There must be nice to tell us why maybe just a little little round flat out the nets stick around for that. First though i do want to circle back to the legacy of civil rights icon dot mirc. Dr martin luther king junior assassinated of course april fourth nineteen sixty eight outside of the lorraine motel in memphis tennessee and coach. I do want to ask you more about the coach. The grizzlies you made a point of with your team. Touring the national civil rights museum which is right built around glory motel. Yeah what stood out to you the most when you were there. Will you know first off to just moves you immediately. Understanding the significance of what happened in that moment and understanding what it is our country what it did to the black community what it did for black and white relations in our country and you feel it the gravity of as you pass through it you know in that moment there well it was they let us stand in a spot where he was killed and for me. I think what broke me down was here. I am a black man. I'm the head coach at a memphis. Grizzlies and i'm two generations removed from a sanitation worker from mississippi who went to jan cro. My grandfather and that is who dr king was there. Fighting four was the sanitation workers and for some reason it overwhelming. It's still overwhelms me now to think about just two generations later what we've accomplished where we are now. And so the best way we can honor him as to pay that forward and continuing to serve and trying to change the world for me. That even though haven't had a chance to just watching you now moment it gets emotional especially being a black man from the south because you see all the trials and tribulations that black people have to go through and what we have to overcome and it's so hard mentioning so hard heartfelt that people around the world really now trying to see what is going on in his country. And i know right now. Everybody wants us to be full forcing it to happen now. Because that's the day and age we live in but it's going to be baby steps just thinking about it and i just talked about not having. Mlk day when i played now we have one and you know hopefully by the time. Our grandchildren Childrens children have this moment. It's is it is equality and it's just a moment you know. We have to be patient. We're going to have to work towards it. You know it's not just gotta sit back and stay silent when you sound. Things don't don't happen so we still got to keep voice. Keep that message in front. So we can move forward and the celebration of martin luther king of course also a celebration of so many men and women who have made so much progress pushing this country forward in the battle for civil rights. Clearly still going on today. It's important to recognize just the breadth of the movement that there were so many people who put their lives their families on the line because the change had to come and we have so much respect for all of them and it's up to all of us to keep keep their keep doing it and we'll be talking about it throughout the show today. I want to get to a little basketball too because earlier today. James harden posting a thread of tweets skies thanking the city of houston thanking the rockets organization. Saying the city has given me everything i could ask for and more he goes on to write. He's forever indebted to the city and quote. It's far from a goodbye. As i pay all of my debts as for hardens future. We did get our first look at him as a member of the nets alongside katie on saturday. He had thirty two points. Fourteen assists twelve rebounds. Oh by the way k. D. dropped forty two after the game. James said quote. It was easy out their heart and responsible for sixty three points against the magic when you look into right Between third most all time for a debut in nba history behind his rockets debut. Twenty twenty twelve kyrie's nets debut last season kyrie. of course that out saturday's game and just reported by whoa jr also going to miss tonight's game against the bucks on tnt as he works his way back into playing shape after missing. What will now be seven games due to personal reasons robert. James said it was easy. How easy do you expect it to be for the nets moving forward. This is one of these projects that you have to wait and see because when you come to a team for the first time you're excited so you have all this energy you have all this emotion and you wanna see how does is gonna work out in ten more games. You have that same energy and that same emotion. Will your teammates feel the same about because we know. James has the tendency to hold a ball dribble dribble but when he's not when he's doing that and you're losing. How are your team is going to react because right now this is the honeymoon and we won't see how it wedding is this match can be you know. Twenty games in ten games in because that's when a true team is going to merge because right now like i said this is the honeymoon. Everybody's happy during the honeymoon. Well i think we're not gonna see team lose too much too much talent too much shooting on the floor. I think you're going to see this team play very well very fast and you could see. The transition was pretty seamless. Why is that. Hey tony maybe we'll see look at this jazz hard. Making plays off the pick and roll k. D's such a big target. He can hit them out. They're getting easy shots as a cake. Shots for k. d. The work for these right here because james harden draws so much attention with. This is the play jazz hard recognizes immediately that katy has the mismatch cagey swings a to brown. Who is the other and if they keep making plays like this great. That's when they're going to be dangerous when they don't care who the next guy is and they trust that trust. The past with that much talent is going to be very hard to deal with them. That could be career in the corner next time eventually. Great i mean that's the idea. So swing swing. Swing swing to kyri. You've got a little bit. Just switch them all around. I'm just going to be like whoever has the matchup that guy's going to have the ball and he's going to create in long as he keeps trust in this guy's good things are going to happen for this team teams that cruise through a regular season and then the playoffs. It gets harder what he knows. What do you think robert. What is sort of the thing that they have to work on throughout the regular season. 'cause fizzes right. There's going to be a lot of nights. it's just kind of easy and one ball out there. And so what do they need to work on and sharpen so when they get to those tougher tests in the playoffs. They can be up for them. Huguenots go board on the teamwork. It sounds simple but it is because careers a ball. Hannah in how he's gonna react with james ball and i think katie is the one who's gonna sit back because i think he he can realize. Hey i don't have to use that much energy helena rock. I could come off screens and shoot the ball but we always talk about office but we also have to know they got to plan and they lost the three best defensive player so he's really going to be interesting how they can mixed it altogether together on both ends because these guys are all capable of playing good team defense katie especially kyrie has done james even done it. I know his reputation but he's he's done it. I live in houston. Hasn't bought into that often to the i want to get to move from the nets of course to the pacers as part of that fourteen trade but news over the weekend is out indefinitely after an. Mri revealed a small mass left kidney during a physical prior to finalizing the trade. Now the pacers talked about the fact that they discussed. Should we avoid the deal. Right and robert ory. You told the story on friday's show about you. Were part of a trade for sean elliott. When physical review part of his kidney problem in that deal was voided the pacers decided though they did want to stick with the trade brooklyn centene additional two point six million dollars to indy to ensure that the deal held up so i'm sure that helps to l- avert will undergo further medical tests. Of course the entire community hopes to see carris back out on the court as soon as possible and it is a good sign to get into his private medical business but the fact that the pacers decided after seeing his records and seeing the mri. We don't consider this such a long term problem. We want to keep him. That's just good to sort know as we all think and wish the best for him that hopefully it's not a super significant life altering type of thing and he can get treatment. Get back on the court as soon as possible. Another team in that deal the cavaliers. We learned that they intend to trade or waiver. Twenty nineteen first round. Pick kevin porter jr. during an outburst. He had friday after finding out his locker was given to taurean. Prince who was acquired in that deal porters locker had been moved to a different side now. Puerto hadn't played this season for unspecified personnel reasons and we of course know that he had a legal incident that they were trying to get him. Some help According to reporting was first reported by the athletic conferred by espn the puerto reportedly got into a screaming match with cavs brass and gruesome food in the locker room. Remember jr smith through the bowl of chicken tortilla soup years ago. I don't know what it is about food and the cavaliers locker room but there you go after that altercation. Puerto was told to clean out his locker. Other members of the roster were informed. He would no longer be on the team as mentioned the athletic first reported this incident. Coach is what is your reaction to this. is sad because because obviously you're starting to see continuous incidents happen and you hate to see that kind of spiral. Start to take place where the kid and you know. I know as a black coach. I've been View said that term a lot this show already but as a black coach knowing what some of these kids go through to get to where they are and a lot of people don't understand about a lot of these kids and i'm not excusing his behaviour but a lot of these kids suffered trump. When you grow up in a neighborhood were gunshots is bringing out all the time or the potential for you to get rob. Is there all the time or or polices. Is you know basically occupying our neighborhood. There's trauma that comes. That can tell you from from the standpoint of my own personal trauma. Because i lived in the neighborhood like that and i know where this kid is promised so is unfortunate to see him. In these circumstances you hope that people around him can help him and galvanize him and get his career and his life back on the right track to where because he's super talented. Nba players. Not the question is is. Can we get all of the other stuff taken care of and you know i know. Jbs tried to do everything they can for the kid It works out for you know when these kids come out of college and you have these issues. People sometimes think oh he has money. He's an nba no status that these problems might not they might go away and this is not always the case and i think these teams. They don't think like this. They think for me. I think every team should have a former player. A player s looked up to on their team in our recommended director personnel. Like that with these guys can go to encompass. I'm not seeing a therapist like that. But someone they can go to and confidence a yale out this issue have this problem so they can talk to someone so they can have a big brother or father figured they can talk to because these guys need sometimes need an outlet and you have outlets on the court when you burst out because you can't go to someone and yell and scream curse even tell my kids some days. If you want to read a friend you need to let some things. I do it because once you get it off your chest you feel better than we can solve the problem and teams do have those resources now more so than when back back in the day but it's also up to the players sometimes to take advantage of them and as you point now guys can be. They can be closed off about that stuff because they dealt with so much trust issues like some of these guys are really. They trust anybody to tell anybody anything and what he's talking about is really important. I really spent a lot of time with the knicks. Bring it back all her former knicks trying to get them talking to the guys engaging with them about their experiences their ups their downs the pitfalls that game. There's that can happen at home. Things that can happen with family. So that is a critical part of our our job for these young guys and hopefully again can we get him back and get him on track to be a good professional and live a good life. Well we will keep watching that one all right coming up zion williamson played a little bully ball against the kings on sunday. Is this the version. Zion we've been waiting for stick around to find out ever buy something and then it like pants. They fit great at the store. But after awhile you avoid sitting in them they're itchy and the windshield wipers are hard to find okay. We're talking about cars here. That's why carmax is introducing the love. Your car guarantee with twenty four hour test drives in a thirty day. Money back guarantee you can take a car home and get comfy with it because sometimes you just don't know it fits until you fall asleep on your couch and sorry talking about pants again. Carmax which should be fifteen hundred mile limits carmax dot com for details. Dr king you know the first name you think of when you think of the city of atlanta. It's hard to describe it. The you definitely understand. I mean what he's done for for atlanta and just. I mean georgia loan. Just that in itself. You understand the history and you understand what he's done for the state and for this city he's stood for equality for openness in every aspect being that atlanta's such a heavily african american populated city. And i feel like his legacy truly resonates with people here. You know when you talk about city edition. There's nothing better than we can do to represent city of atlanta than in rolling out some jerseys that represent dr king and the legacy of dr king every year to nba honors the life and legacy of dr martin luther king junior this year. The atlanta hawks will honor the civil rights icon with commemorative jerseys with the letters m. Okay beginning on. Mlk day january. Eighteen very first idea that i had was. It would be amazing if we could honor dr king's legacy in an elevated way with a uniform back just on king day but throughout an entire season the black and gold represents dr king and his fraternity. The stars on the jersey represent the many times. Dr king was arrested fighting during the civil rights movement. By feel like for me just gives me a little bit of a edge a little bit more of a chip to play harder and proved the city. They baleno that we earned these letters as we have been pushing so hard to tell. Our fan atlanta hawks. Mlk black and gold jersey. And i think when you really understand some of the details people are going to be excited to have that jersey on and come to atlanta hawks game at it's atlanta. It's mlk tim va. There's nothing that's going to be able to top that. The hawks have also brought dr king pride to their hardwood floor continuing the theme from the jerseys and adding a mosaic pattern reminiscent of stained glass motif in a church. Twenty twenty one. We went in strong because we all had a similar dream in the sense of you know collaborating with one of our in almost favorite sons of atlantic. The hawks have committed to donating profits from the mlk nike city addition jersey sales to help promote economic empowerment in the black community ensuring that these jerseys have a greater impact. Well beyond the around. It's almost transcends a person but it's really the actions that you would take towards equality and disrespecting everyone in the ways in which they should be respected this year even honoring them even more Things going to be even more special to the city in starts in a fantastic work from our spears in the end of his story. Is that the vatican which hosted several players in the off season to discuss their push for civil rights actually called the hawks and asked if they could send their mlk jerseys to rome and on friday. The pope bless them to honor their shared commitment making positive change social economic empowerment and love. We have a pope now who puts out statements that quote love. I am all for it and we now welcome in the man who has covered all of this so beautifully. Marc spears from the undefeated mark. I love that feature. We just watch. Thank you for joining us today. And look i wanna talk to you because no one has covered this better and more thoroughly than you. How has this past. Year of civil unrest in this country changed the nba. What we learned from the players as their strength in numbers. You know rachel you were with me in the bubble and and seeing those social justice jerseys and black lives matter on core seeing the three day revolution in which the players decided not to play and that allowed most of the nba arenas to be turned into polling stations. That i think definitely had an impact on the election. Certainly in georgia. I mean they certainly show that they have strength and i hope the players don't forget to use that strength whether as forget more. Gm's or or more coaches and then also you know. Now we're seeing with the with the memphis grizzlies. I think in terms of honoring. Mlk no one has done a better for them they. They've had a symposium and celebration for nineteen years now that i've been blessed to be a part of I got interview jaren jackson this time around. And he's been really really big on voting. And i expect to be in the future also during this time during those visits a chance to go to the national civil rights museum which if you have been as impactful place and the one thing that stood out to me of all things that have stood out to me is towards the entrance you see from Global impact slavery half from sixteen nineteen thousand nine hundred sixty one and a depiction of what it was like for africans to be basically squeezed to the bottom of these slave ships and brought to the americas you know think about when we watch these athletes. This day we have to remember. It's not just. Today is every day in the black community for these people to see what's going on and to recognize injustice in detroit to even play field feel sorta say and and i love the fact that these players now have the platform to speak their mind to say what they want to say because we play we wanted to say stuff but we were a little too afraid to say some could get black and you could not play and you want to provide for your family. So hey have a better future. But now these guys they're stepping up and saying we don't care we don't use that platform because now you see it. There's a magnifying glass on us. So now when you say something bad. They're going to see we say some good they're gonna see us so that means the people of the world because social media and it's such a great feeling for me to watch each and every guy. Nba step up and try to have a voice and try to say. Hey this is wrong. This is right in just to try to bring his world together because right now we have a lot of issues with social justice. The the the the Cove nineteen so. I'm just today is a proud day for me to see these people step up and i gotta say this atlanta's anywhere those jurors. I love them. There's no doubt things have changed since you were playing in the league. First of all the salaries endorsement money has gone up. So if you get quote blackballed by one sponsor or one team. That is non layton. Do you have other ways to take care of your family but also as mark pointed out strengthened numbers man. You read some of the biggest stars in the nba. When dwayne wade chris. Paul lebron james carmelo. Anthony stood up on that. Sp stage and said we challenge all athletes out there. This is a priority to stand up for the people who are not being spoken for. And i think that really unleashed an incredible sense of ownership from these young. Nba players have incredible crop of under twenty five players in the nba. Who do for their communities before they even do for themselves and really again. You have some the elite players in the lead taking a lead in it. In fact. Stephen jackson just let the cat out of the bag. That kyrie irving has bought a house for the family of george. Floyd floyd stephen. Of course close friends growing up together in south texas phys kyrie. Be a leader. You can i. There's a lot going on with kyrie irving right now but it should not escape anyone's attention. He has been a leader in this fight for social justice. And we've seen several other players step up if you were advising some of the young players in the league. What do you think comes next for them. What can they do with this power that they now know they have to continue to utilize your platform to elevate the communities issues right at really start thinking about law changing right and start getting into what is the root of the problem and the bottom line is what everybody's asking for us. Can we get to a basic set laws that everyone can live by so that no one's dying unnecessarily i mean i don't think that's a big ad when you really think about it and i think the players have to continue to keep that pressure on with the connection to the community and pushing forward and bring it using a platform to do it. You know i was in. That situation than memphis wasn't popular. And we were trying to get down statues of nathan bedford force and And jefferson davis. And i was feeling like robert say it. Should i do this right right there. I had coaching i head. Coaching job. On young black coach will will. I suffer for this cat. Was just starting to kneel and stuff like that. And i had to do it because this is the home of dr king and now you're starting to see corporate is getting behind these young people and that's was really pushing over the hump as the corporate world is supporting our basketball guys and really started to put pressure on all of these look. What happened with the redskins right. That was a corporate push. Absolute changed that name now. What you're seeing is players are starting to recognize. We got a lot of power here and they're using it the right way and they gotta keep that pressure going. Do you think is next for nba players. I hope they keep the education for what he did in memphis and what he did in new york standpoint but i remember talking to a young star player. I'll just say that last year and ask them about martin. Luther and he said you really did a lot of good things. One important american on crushed me to hear young black man. Say that so. I think there needs to. I don't depend on. The schools needs to be more education at home. All learned about was mlk rosa parks malcolm in school But i implored a players and off parents to show their kids eyes on the prize. Like my mom. Let me see american center and see the movie. Selma and read up on martin luther king and other civil rights leaders because they're just so much to learn a. I don't think we should depend on the schools. Teach education reform. You here donovan mitchell. Talking about it all the time mark. You're gonna stick with us coming up. We're gonna look at the head to the nightcap of tnt's mlk day tripleheader between the lakers warriors. Is james weisman already. Living up to the expectations for him in the bay. Stick around to find out we will discuss. Do you own or rent your home. Share you and i bet it can be hard work you know. It's easy bundling policies with geico. Geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com dente quote and see how much you could save. Its gyco easy. Visit geico dot com today. That's geico dot com foreign next segment. Here's where he came. Weisman james wisely iron rookie from state warriors. This is my diary done defeated. James is going to be our starting center before too long. Long-term starting center fielder. Bill steve kerr to introduce me as the stars because just like art our little sudafed. I love i love fresh stuff. I mean i love studying fairmont. Those great players giant robert come on in. Welcome back to the jump. I am joined by david. Robert ory and marc spears and that was a clip from james wiseman video. Diary diary with mark and the undefeated. So mark do you think. Wiseman is living up to expectations so far for the warriors. Oh most definitely certainly. These expectations are very very high. I them two years ago. He's most president high school kid i've ever talked to. He speaks mandarin He says he wants to own fast. Food restaurants any has game. I saw hoops summit practices that he was special before the draft. There was one scout told me that he was going to be a combination of david. Robinson chris boswell five rays which probably be a hall of famer and so far so good seems to getting better with every game Draymond green is in his ear and he's listening and he's an interest frappes and he's got his f one fifty coming to san francisco soon drive around instead of a ferrari. Came bit harari. When you talk about always wanna talk about expectations you know. What is the team's expectation. What is kerr's expectations. Because he needs to go out and just play his game. he's playing with three one is out with three dynamic players who've got rings who All star appearances so he just needs to sit back learn. I love the fact that he's still doing his thing. Because one of my favorite things is vernon maxwell you always used to tell me why you do what you do. Do what got you here. And that's what he's doing he's just going out and playing his game not trying to be disguised that guy just being itself and doing what comes natural. He's always here with drama. He's always going to drain. Because why dr mazar defensive player. He knows a game. He's one of the best of getting people involved. So why was limited learning from the best. These kids grow fast. Surrounded with a bunch of talent like no pressure is on him. At all. And i think i was on. The show will probably three weeks ago and we were talking about klay went down. The warriors was done. A lot of people were writing them off and a big reason why the warriors are in the playoff. Conversation is because this right here and this kid's going keep moving faster. He's bringing the ball up. He's cross over guards. he's finishing with either hand. I watched one game suit and threes. He is dynamic. You add that to the mix of what gold stay does and the championship pedigree like you said draymond player defensive player of the year steph. Mvp he's learning from the best absolutely all right mark. Thank you so much for joining us today. We will see you again soon. Everyone else stick with us because coming up. We're talking about the clippers. Their improved chemistry was on display last night and they talked about it after the win. But is that chemistry here to stay. The panel will weigh in next one. That's once white once last single bank brennan delete. Qb's resolute kenneth on t. d.'s. Crossing over step behind. Don't need to watch the cloud because you know what danger ought to push us. Bruce lee showing mercy fast five got the crew on dupree. No-one knows goes deeper. The espn download. Now all guys magic knicks kicking off the mlk day nba slate from madison square garden earlier. Today fourth quarter knicks. Up three td. Aaron gordon nailing. The three magic tying the game for the first time after being down by as many as fifteen under two minutes left magic down to here off the jump ball shot clock running down terrorists bras. Shot magic taken the firstly that the game eighty one eighty game tied at eighty one to randall episode. This gordon wrote a throws it away. J barrett taking it all the way for the labs right war and the knicks win. Ninety one eighty four to see your old student get. I want to get to the clippers. Everyone the clippers blew out the pacers last night by thirty three points. It was a balanced attack. Seven clipper scored in double figures. Here's marcus morris. And paul george on the teams improved chemistry this year. Take a listen. This is really interesting. Energy is way better this season. Thank god the by geyser. Enjoy playing a game and there's been a lot of talk about pg. I should've gone into the season. And like i said lands game. I'm excited excited to see how far he can take it. Real bond man is fine You know this is locked in where together minded best locker rooms. I've been around and been in. You know it's it's just you. Hopefully you guys see. Just how well we. We were matching in We're don't continue to build that you know we like we're add like where we're headed and we wanna see this team play. All the way through. Robert moore has also said last night he said we got in a room with the beginning of the season. And we just got it all out. Put it behind us. Do you buy that. The chemistry is as good as last night and that these issues are behind them up. Still wait no now. I'm still waiting on that because it's always easy to say that and throw it out in the universe and hope that it happens and everything's is always good when there's no adversity with symbols bercy smack in the face. How you acting. We can have this. We will have this. Come that every thirty point win and guys are saying this because they're trying to make themselves believe this in thailand there. He's gonna emphasize that lot and we. Pg start emphasizing and say. Hey i got to make up for what i did. The playoffs and with coup. Why by knee and say oh. I'm going to play back the backs. I'm going to be here for you. Guys i m as it means a lot. People don't understand when you eight nine hundred people. You need to go practice. No we all need to practice so we can get this report and play together the team. I think with these guys starting to do that. They're buying in. And maybe this can carry over and we can have a good playoff series from those guys yes a small sample size obviously And you wanna drop. Kick the fifty point out the out the window. You kicked out one now. Overall plan fantastic basketball. You gotta admit that and four. Yeah of the day. That's what i'm looking at is. How how well are they winning. An are they winning and they're doing both and so I think t lose during the heck of a job of getting guys to buy into the role. I think all the noise about paul george early on brought all those guys together. Yeah it happens that way. Well we got lebron in miami you amber to the as what what it did for us. Every buying the locker room surrounded on put their hands on so i think. That's what's happening with the clippers right now. Really interesting And let me tell you mcmorris. When he gets you to circle up in the locker room is real gobi. No bs hash it out and wants you walk out of that locker room. That's where stays and so. I do think they're on the right. Track of getting together and the big test will be when they get squeezed in the playoffs. So it'd be interesting to see but they are building. They looked great last night. Before we go. Bucks safety mike edwards had a game sealing interception. That helps send his team to the nfc championship last night. That nice sideline kick off the tip pass. We'd take a second to appreciate the jays jordan. Once every i'm so jealous these guys these guys wearing. Mj's plan football. I'm jealous 'cause we're not gonna play softball when we used to get together. I need some of those. Yeah that's that's that's those to robert and the hawks me perfect before we go blazers coach. Terry stotts said that. Cj mccollum will be valley reevaluated. In one week he's out for at least a week on that sprained left foot. So thank you everyone for joining us. Martin luther king day. Let's take a deep.

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Hour 1: Fizdale thrown under the bus

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Hour 1: Fizdale thrown under the bus

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Seven to nine three seven seven six Stephen Smith check your am FM listening to fifty markets across the United States of America. This is the day Smith Show also carried on. ESPN radio on Sirius. Xm Channel Eighty. This is Stephen a Smith that you're looking at right now over the nationally televised elevazo airwaves of ESPN news. Not already discussed. It already discussed it this Saturday evening. When I watched Dow's Love Bama come out their act like the second coming in Arkansas razorback turning over the damn football every turn a fumble on touched by tour below? You GotTa Must Putt. You Got Jerry Judy. All world wide receiver dropping touchdown passes like it's going out of style. You Got Alabama scored twenty two thirteen in the second half and it still wasn't enough. Because I a stock hit a first-half. I'm already discussed it by that. I was granted elevated level of victory. Victory of pleasantness because I watched the Dallas Cowboys football. They go out a to a fourteen year old deficit that Prescott play one of the best game of his career of his career with elite by performance by Zeki Elliott that and I can only say mirrored exactly what he did against the rams and the playoffs because they only at forty seven yards rushing that night he only at forty seven dollars. I said last night Dallas Cowboys Law behold I tell you all the time just wait just wait take your top. It's coming they're GONNA be. They will not outlet you down a black cat running around that franchise for reason. Even though it sullied the New York giants last week the point it was a black cat city of Dallas cowboys game. I'm telling you it's coming. Just wait place it take time. Enjoy thanksgiving do your Christmas shopping. Don't worry about them damn cowboys they will not let you down. You can bunk it. They don't do much. They could do much they might not even make the Damn Playoffs Dak Prescott playing all world world is equal Elliott. Not that Press Amari Cooper looking like the second coming of Joe Montana to Jerry Rice dead matter stars like David Smith Lane Vander surely couldn't even deal with Alvin. Cook couldn't deal with medicine. I seen what how feeling. Oh I have reasons to celebrate. Oh did I have raises to sit up there and just smile and say you know what I don't like the fact that Alabama lost lost to wasn't healthy though I can understand he was a bit hobble. He certainly wasn't himself was of self because he's still played ball. There's an interception right before to have ended giving Lsu an extra seven point. Two fumbled the gate in the first seven points of the game that they would have had. That's a fourteen point turnaround Alabama. One this gay amount of cost of a playoff spot but these things happen particularly with college the students I understand it I get it. I don't like it but it is what it is. I gotTa Deal Ryan Clark later. I gotta deal with Marcus Spears tomorrow. They got me. Because because Joe Borough looked like a stud call Clyde head Hilar- this brother was a monster. LSU CAn't be ignored it as their props. I was a little miserable Saturday night again cowboys. Lose it Pittsburgh. Winning US through hell. Monday was better. I wish New Yorkers I could talk to you about the Johnson debts but frankly I don't give a damn what they did yesterday and I don't think anybody else does both teams stink. Both teams need a new head coach preferably next season absolutely positively correct. I got all of that. I got all of that. Thank you sit up here and talk to you like there was no significant game that took place yesterday between the giants and jets who As spas are concerned. Should've let people talk at the stadium for free. How anybody I've had to pay to watch that game? Why what a necessary? Now matter of fact I can make a legitimate argument that the jets and the giants should've paid the customer to watch him. Yeah but that's the point. Oh No no no no no ladies. That's not what's on my mind not the jets and giants not even the cowboys right now not Lsu Alabama none of. That's on my mind. That's not why I'm sitting here thanked off. There's another reason for that and before I tell you what that is. Let me remind my audience because I'm so ticked off. I missed my read. This is the Stephen Smith show brought to you by my computer career dot. Edu Training for a better life. And I was supposed to tell you. It's time for straight talk brought to you by straight. Talk Wireless. Dammit I just did it now. Let me we get back to my point why. I'm so ticked off laser German. I'm just GONNA lose it I I. I'm trying not to lose a try. It but let me say this and I apologize to the national audience for the subject that I'm about to bring up that just sullies contaminates the most people the second day here this franchise franchise name getting mentioned what is necessary on this day. Because it's me. And I'm synonymous with this franchise and I'm embarrassed. Enough showers was bad beyond does not a radically eight the stain the stench that holders over me every time my name is associated with this day. A friend jobs. I'm talking about the New York Knicks. Most basketball people people are sitting here right now. Going like this. What the hell he bring them up for forgot they had a T. Lazy Gentlemen? I'm here to tell you. They have people showing up at Madison Square Garden. Whether it's a basketball team or not is very very debatable. The New York Knicks lost by twenty one points at the Garden Madison Square Garden in New York City on a Sunday night. By Twenty one point eight to the Cleveland. Cavaliers now Lebron James Cleveland Cavaliers talking about Kevin Love and Tristan Kristen Toxins Cleveland Cavaliers. Talking about sextants Cleveland Cavaliers. The New York next look like like straight trash. New York Knicks were so embarassing last night sanitation workers when they wanted to show up in Madison Square. God they couldn't take but that's not why I'm going off. You see them points per game differential twenty ninth in the NBA dead last and offensive efficiency. Dad lasted field. Goal percentage shooting twenty eight. That's third worst in the League in assists per game that trash stink. That's what he had just a full disclosure. ESPN RADIO NEW YORK. City is the flagship station. For what a New York mets it out still tell you thank thank very even that is not why I'm sitting up here ticked off. Had nothing to to do with what it has everything to do with two individuals are genuinely like and respect and was more than happy to see hoving over this franchise until yesterday Dow would happen to be Steve Mills President of Basketball Operations for the New York Knicks and Scott Perry the general manager for the New York Knicks. You know Steve Mills was named president in the New York Knicks on July. Ah Fourteen th two thousand seventeen. I'm show you how fond I am of this man. You listen to me John. John with the purdue wintom of do you know how I am this Steve Mills now found. I am a dismissed Scott Perry. I'm not going to mention the Knicks record since they've taken over not going to do. I'm going to give them pass because the record is atrocious. We the anticipated that was going to be the case. I am on the record stating the obvious. David phys deal should not have been picked as coach of the New York. Doc Knicks ahead of Mark Jackson. Why did I say that had nothing to do with David physios coaching? It had everything to do with the fact that you had to have have a voice representing the New York Knicks Franchise. That New Yorkers would gravitate to that would who would listen to and they would accord the necessary a certain level of patients because he was one of their own. That's where Mark Jackson came in laser. Gentlemen I will never in this lifetime defend head coach. David phys deal of the New York Knicks. More that I'm about to do right now. Steve Mills and Scott Perry or thrown him under the bus. Somebody's gotTa say it you. You don't do. What the hell they did yesterday? You don't do it unless you fired the man you don't do it before you fire him. You don't do it when you about to send him out to coach. The team. Don't do what they did yesterday. A A full disclosure. I don't think I've had one conversation with David physio since he's been hired as the coach of the New York Knicks because I knew misery was on its way and why the hell should not being a path of that level of tension and depression. And everything else that comes with data and also a year. I liked him I respect. He's a better coach than ereck indicates but does not want sitting here going off. And I'm not going off about Steve Mills. Scott Perry great if the conversation that they had took place with James Dolan behind closed doors. How do you come out in a press conference? What a straight Dan face fell Sunday evening? Immediate aftermath the math of an atrocious loss to a hapless Cleveland Cavaliers squad and literally say with a straight face. We were supposed to be better than Nisa. What the roster you ever accumulated? You don't add value. Do Ask what the Hell is going on. I watched the game Friday night. Where the New York Knicks almost blew the game against the Dallas Mavericks because they missed three consecutive free throws Julius randle Miss One? I forgot WHO MR previous to. I watched Jonathan I watched Marcus Morris handling the ball like he was appalling. God like he was supposed to be the one. We're in a place. I watched stem give the ball and Julius randle not in the Post. This brother was dribbling. The ball court with everybody knows last. Now you can point to figure you can sit up the you could say that's deal. You know what Fidel could come back with. Who the hell am I supposed to get a ball to what connor on a roster? Did you accumulate. Marcus Morris. Julius randle Elfriede Peyton Frank ntilikina Dennis Smith and David. They're the pressure's got him home. Agyei Barra's rookie. He's got promised but he needs to work being ambidextrous to instead of using his damn left hand all all the time. He says he's right handed. When I see it I'll let him know what? What kind of roster is this? It's a roster that has no contracts pass twenty twenty because for some reason the same nick squad. That couldn't get Kyrie. Are we urban. That could've Kevin Durant. That wouldn't have Lebron. James passed gas in their direction. Somehow so way they're going to events events Yavuz the Greek freak to consider them or co-editor Lebron James and a couple years. We're supposed to believe this. I have no problem with the fact that the New York Knicks roster isn't that great. I have no problem with the fact that guess what. You're not that great so we couldn't get the marquee gotta give the long-term deal too so we're going to get a bunch of other. The dude on on less on non long term contracts even though Julius ready get sixty million we get guys on non long term contracts and we're going to keep our options open for the future. I have no problem with that. But that was basically the knicks way of saying look seventeen sixty five last year. We'll we'll probably be around the same this year. Maybe a little bit better. But we're still suck that's fine that's fine but have an impromptu super press conference in the immediate aftermath of a game a loss against the hapless Cleveland Cavaliers. You expected to be better. I believe. Steve Steve Mills should be drug tested immediately for that statement. What the hell you mean you thought you were going to be better? We all knew wasn't gonNA be who didn't know that I want by vagrants with cops and and changing the cop look at dollars so they could get a male that found a way to tell me. The Knicks are gonNA stick this year. But you know you didn't know. Oh what the hell is going on guy. You're lucky I'm over. FCC Airwaves Oh my Lord. Oh if there was ever a time that I wished that I wasn't restricted by FCC. Airwaves it's this it is this. I like Steve Mills. I think. He's a highly intelligent do graduate of Princeton Business Savvy. Good to Scott. Perry has been an elite evaluated of talent for a years. He deserved this opportunity to be the general manager for the New York Knicks. They dropped the ball in terms of recruiting because because they didn't get the targeted people like durant and Kyrie even though they have Madison Square Garden and they had seventy plus million at cap space. That's bad outside outside of that I get it I understand it until last night. How in the hell could you have a press conference offense? An impromptu press conference at that and literally utter some of the most idiotic words I have ever heard come out of any the executives mouth in the National Basketball Association talking about ten games in how you expect it to be better. Who Did you call Daryl Morey or be or somebody from mit or something because all of those analytics do seem to make decisions out of ten game evaluations? So after ten games camello anthony gets. Let go by Daryl Morey. But he's Darrelle Freaking Mori his team contends for titles. The New York Knicks don't looks like they can contend for a spot at rutgers part but the president of basketball operations is sitting here with a straight face telling us that you expect it to be better you to stay you. David is still under the bus. Ladies Gentlemen do you understand. David physicist fist is done do could brother. Knowledgeable about coaching. Had the endorsement and support of Dwayne Wade Lebron Donges because of the assistant that he was in Miami with the heat phenomenal guy knows basketball and I believe he can coach. To only reason he was my second choice. Choice in New York again was because he didn't have the New York routes like bought Jackson was playing under somebody like James Dolan would all the messy headlines that the New York they appear to conjure. You need a face and a voice like bought Jackson the ward off the wolves or hold them off at least a little bit. That's the only reason is an hour saying Moore Jackson over fizzle in New York of it are the ones that will work for me again. I haven't spoken to physio but once wants since he got the New York Knicks head coaching. Job I am telling you. He is being thrown under the damn bus this wrong. It's a gracious regis. It's the responsible the New York Knicks Steak Berry. We all know no it we can see it and a third part about it is. It's not that they stink as players. They got a lot of quality. Players is on a team that can make contributions for the right teams and the right systems but collectively to bring them together as one and a call themselves. A team is a national basketball paris-milan. There you throw David Fisher on a bus ten games in why why. Cya going on covering your you know what stabile got some explaining to do. Not Scott Perry he works under Steve. Mills Steve Mills else has some explaining to do we stop this nonsense right now. There's a hard conversation for me to have. I don't enjoy this. I love for Steve Mills. But what yesterday David was excusable. Let's Stop Steve. Bill's gone for a little while. But for the most part he's been a part of the Knicks Organization since two thousand and three he was there. Larry Brown was the coach. It wasn't just Isaiah Thomas it was MTO and Jane so he was there with the whole new Brown Sanders and the lawsuit against Madison Square Garden. That wasn't just Thomas. Dane stolen no by the way he was the president of master. Got It at the time and oh by the way mass is where is the one that lost the lawsuit nobody Thomas. They didn't say he had to pay seven billion dollars. They said about six where God and had to fast forward Phil Jackson and the Baracuda echoed. He is Steve Mills. Isaiah Thomas is my brother. I love this man. I know him personally aways most of you. Don't I knew when he was coaching in New York Knicks out. He didn't need to be doing that while the lawsuit lawsuit was going on and Stefan Marberry moving into a house right behind causing problems at the time and his mother was dying. Isaiah Thomas at that time had no business coaching New York Knicks matter of fact one of the ugliest fights he and I ever had was because I got on him because I wanted him to quit as the head of the New York Knicks because mentally and emotionally with all the stuff that was going on. He was not equipped to do the job. Jonathan why am I bringing it up because because even as much love as I half is Thomas I went on national television call for him to be fired because the job was just that bad would all that he was going through and I had to call him the night before to let him know S.. Exactly what I was going to do. Am I calling for that for Steve Bills Absolutely not. I'm not doing that but what this man did to David. Dill yesterday was was disgraceful. He threw the coach under the bus. He's basically told the world. It's not really our fault is his wall. He's still coaching the team. Setting the stage for David phys deal to be fide. Who Don't know that David Physio is probably GONNA be gone? Who Don't know that I at this date? I'll be Lisa. I'll be shocked if Dave is deal last until Thanksgiving matter of fact I might be shocked if he lasted landed this week. Ten Games into this season of minimal. No expectations from any basketball fan with sense you through the head coach publicly under the bus. I didn't say anything about private. Steve Mills Scott Perry have every right to give their recommendation to the James Dolan. They got every right to have private conversations with the boss Madison Square Garden and let him know where they stand. And why at what recommendations whatever they maybe are my issue is not what they said is with the decision to have a press press conference and the throw David physio under the bus sitting here acting like you have nothing to do with it. Nothing nothing it has nothing to do with what was said is the fact that they said it publicly the New York Knicks just fired David Physio. They just haven't told us yet because I haven't that press conference yesterday. That's what you did and for. What because this team was supposed to be better? How much better would they be? Julia Know The New York Knicks. Struggled as you who didn't know it at eight say. ESPN that's eighty seven to nine. Three seven seven six you're listening to Steven A.. 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NA member FDIC from celebrate Newt Rodney to the fall of UFC down distance podcast hosted by either covers eight stories from the history of college football download download today available wherever you enjoy your podcast presented by Cintas and linked in. Let me give back to Steve Mills. Because I don't want anybody to misconstrue what I'm trying to say. I am in no way attaching guilt culpability or anything to Steve Mills for anything unethical. I don't know what the hell happened happened throughout the years. Where this Phil Jackson with his Larry Brown? Whether it's it's it's a new process. I don't know what I'm saying. Is that this organization run by James Dolan that has been so inept and so inefficient since it's nineteen ninety. Nine Steve Mills has been a part of it for the most part. And we talk about James Dolan. And we talk about the coaches but we never talk about now. You're the president of basketball operations. You're the man who replaced Phil Jackson. You're the man who's religiously Isley had the right ear of James Dolan all of these years and you hold a press conference ten games ames in to talk about how you expected this roster to be better this roster never ever ever in the history of Steve Mills tenure with the New York Knicks in my opinion. has there been a case where you can literally look at him and make a legitimate argument. What the Hell is going on here? You know what he's talking about because you didn't know what role he really really play before is am. Thomas was there Phil Jackson. Larry Brown was there you know etc etc by Dantonio Donna Watson. Everybody was there. So guess what you know but now that you're in this position and you're caught on record in front of the cameras holding an impromptu press conference saying that you expected this roster Mr Roster to be better you've got me questioning your basketball. IQ right now not this roster not just roster. There's no excuse for it so excuse for it and I can't wait to see him. That tells US face. I can't believe it this roster anything about Scott Perry. It's very what he's got he's he's been a guy in this league for many many years that has been evaluating talent but he answers to somebody and I don't even have a problem with the struggles of the New York Knicks. I have a problem. Louis Steve Mills telling us he expected better. That's my problem to state publicly while Davis is still wanted to firearm. Now Chamula Stephen they take it away. What's up Bro? Before I get into could annex. I do want to send my condolences to the caches. Winston family and Michigan State lost brother few days ago but his brother suicide air mass loss man. Great great family great player. But I WANNA say this you know meals but as a leader you know. Maybe he's taking a a different position. David last thirty three games with the Memphis. Grizzlies was four and twenty nine. His last one hundred and twenty five games or the head coach. It's twenty three and one hundred to to his last sixty eight days of the New York Knicks to ten and fifty eight and the reason. Maybe this they got the they they picked the wrong guy. The right guy was mark. Exact same risk. Climate told them that they wanted Mark Jackson. I mean he's over at the Barclay Center obviously got torn Achilles but Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant can be with the New York Knicks right now and when you try to build a organization from a structure piece. You don't WanNa you brought a guy who had Nyah late it arguably the best player ever for the Memphis Grizzlies who went on to win the NBA championship which is running back and a gold medal this year. Marcus Marcus saw about talking. Let me stop. You got your point and I got your facts. And they're valid years wom stopping you. I have no one. I have no problem with folks questioning rushing whether or not David Phil was the right man for this job because we all know that I would have preferred Mark Jackson to my point is I don't even have a problem. What Steve Mills said You tell that to James Dolan privately to have an impromptu press conference ten games into the season following a loss to Cleveland and David physio is still kept on as the head? Coach what sense does that make chant. I wish you but I'm GonNa tell you what I'm saying. That doesn't if we're I want people to understand. I'm not knocking. Steve Mills for what he said. I'm knocking him for Louis. said it to and how. What do you mean you expected them to be better talking about? Melissa he respected it'd be better turns up from a structure peace and he picked the wrong guy so he came out and he spoke up at the guy who picked. David is a minute to the world. Wait a minute shake the real. He's not no he's no he's not you know why because he's still a head coach now now if you fired him it makes sense. The Guy is still a head coach. Why are you having pro was having that conversation in a press conference if the guy is still your the head coach champ? I'm with you I'm GonNa say this. The same thing with the owner rock is what he said. I'm GonNa say this the Knicks and the rockets. They picked the wrong guy that got it picks more Jackson if the guy that's GonNa win in the long. I don't know what to call up on this show about Mark Jackson. Nobody praises Moore Jackson more than me. We get that point but at least Dantonio is in a playoff game to the second round the New York Knicks. Nobody expected anything from at this year. You cannot have a press conference. Call out the coach like that. If he's your coach the whole argument by a Fi but if you fire him before the press coverage if you came if you have fired phys deal after ten games aims last night right and then we had a press conference today champ. I got no issues with Steve Mills. Zero my issue with him is how are oh you doing. This is to your head coach Gus. Just get rid of all. You can't do that. You can't sit up there and a have a press conference and they go to work with the do the next day. You can't do that champ. You'll get rid of that. You have the press conference and you say Joe. This is why we did this. And everybody's I'm not manager position. My position is this. He called Nick saw he. He wants to play better. And guess what he's the president of basketball operations. Play better or you will be fired. Okay and I believe they picked the wrong guy. Okay he clearly. He clearly believes he picked the wrong got to have you believe the raw guy. Just make the change. Don't give me a press conference passing a balk. You pass the buck by saying you. I made the wrong call. We move into the different directly. Because this do the right guy for the job I would. I would say a word to Steve Mills Today Day. What's that word if that's what had happened but you don't have a press conference like that and still the God who worked today you just cut him off at the knees weeks? They know. He's a lame duck now he has no chance because there has no chance Golfer and then they'd say espn editor seven to not three seven seven. Six back with more of your calls in a minute. You listen live and Stephen E._S._p._N.. Radio E._S._P._N. News.

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"Welcome to the undisputed podcast i'm your host jenny taft podcast is the full show from today's episode of undisputed from start to finish they've got a busy slate so skip shannon let's to remind everybody and welcome to the undisputed live off angeles i'm jim sharpe good morning guys you know what's so funny butter do is get your fired up about the net you don't know how you know how about twenty four hours you know know you know okay helped me out okay yeah i don't have to speak twentythree really you'll always be you don't do that he demanding change teams all of us to let it go bygones be bygones not me we don't have time to get to with free agency today but let's start with the biggest movie of the day yesterday after months of rumors kevin kyrie irving in brooklyn wells reports katie will sign a four year one hundred fifty four million dollar deal floss high rate will sign for four years and a hundred and forty one million those contracts last in the max that way the napkin also signed andre jordan had interest in the next however james dolan reportedly i'm not prepared sinus max deal because of that achilles injury katie is expected to miss all of next season shannon surprised argue both katie n kyri decided to go to brooklyn about surprised at all skip this for the most part most people thought katie was going to leave and then somewhere shortly before the all star game or during the all star game we starting here in the rumblings that k d and carry were going to be a package deal now we couldn't they couldn't settle on the team a lot of people thought it was brooklyn some thought it was the knicks a come defined that katie kinda wanna go to the knicks kyri one we go to brooklyn they ended up going together to the brooklyn nets but i'm not surprised at all skip and i've said this before i thought the nets had the better of the two roster after a they have everything better other than the building because when you're talking about the knicks you talk about madison square garden ali frazier fault there and billy joel sold it out and j v show oh you get all this rolling stone rolling okay rolling stone sold it out but when it comes down to basketball at the end of the day doesn't matter where you play in a matter of the brand of basketball envy organization set up the nets have everything's better better run better coke i don't know that i think david phys there's a better coach i think so go ahead i will say this i just felt the nets had the better of the peace escape i've said this before the thirtieth was the day that you know people start like you start here's the creep out and then the first the day would you guys consign but these deals have been in the works for months these agencies have been talking to these teams get nobody's doing a five hundred eighty million dollar deal and our these guys have already had him when guys are that contract contract for twentyfive thirty million they know they got something lined up their agents have a shore them we got team eight this will give you multiple year deal at basically that fame money harrison barnes opting out of twenty five million skip yeah when you got for years eighty eight coming down the line al horford there's a reason why big al opted out of it because he knew his agent had informed him we got something better so if i'm not surprised in in in in in any stretch because what we started hearing if that caving in kyri are very close they might be as close in any other two players in the league though they'd never played together but what we're starting to see skip if you wanna get i gotta play with you go there but wimpy because where that miami heat thing foster the bron delayed bars i thought it'd be overweight olympic right vince foster at the rio olympics so i am not surprised whatsoever i don't know how true it is but everybody it says that the knicks will not give k d because nobody saw red medical basically you buy skip i got a carpet sale i let you see you buy today as he is it might have been having engine it might not my backseat it might do you want it in charge of you and absorb amount of money saved james dolan didn't feel comfortable skip i could understand that because normally on andrew of this magnitude if it normally takes like two years sure after the injury so he's not gonna possibly play till he's thirty two it might not be until you're thirty three that we see the katie that we last saw but i'm not surprised by this business been in the works for at least three to four months later when it came to fruition i think the big big shot if not that'd be paired is that they paired together in brooklyn as opposed to the mhm which is why i remain shocked over this i still can't wrap my head around it and after i slept on up for the night the harder i think about it the worse it get and i don't understand it i indian it was about kyrie infringe ship is you say yeah but kevin still too young to opt for just friendship kevin durant just made a huge mistake to me in i don't understand it because in the end if you told me a month ago they kevin durant and kyrie irving would wind up signing with the nets i would've said yeah and pigs you're gonna fly because if i told you that a month ago before we heard any of this and you would a leftist it's impossible what just happened in i'm gonna remind everybody that far younger viewers out there the legacy move for kevin durant was obviously to go to the knicks if you're not gonna stay with golden state which was on the table and you were pushing for that you thought that would be they often do right but but if barring that if you're going to choose somewhere else to go it has to be the knicks because i i know the kids out there right now think of the knicks is this this sorry punchline of a franchise this embarrassing laughing stock this disaster oven on lovable loser that that's what the knicks are in in recent memory yes really for for about twenty years it's been that way but highland kevin lifetimes getting other american big news today i got it but just for the recor they're the biggest sleeping giant in all of sports there's nothing close to those knicks you could argue the cubs used to be the next but this is the knicks they play in the most hallowed arena in all of sports in it ain't even close right it is the mecca hideous madison square garden it is entertainment personified because of all the superstars in all forms of entertainment who played the palace that is madison square garden everybody wants to go there every opponent wants to have his best game at madison square garden i will give they have the worst owner in sports but that has been slightly cancelled by a very good coach david phys yeah life is in if you look at scott perry's track record they're fairly new gm he's been there two years and he has he he has a reza may behind he he'll build the pistons championship team and that run the they have yes okay so i respect him and i respect what they could be in i don't respect the fact that kevin said no to this and i get it and he has been reported that they wouldn't offered the max kevin durant's because of injury history i'm gonna get to that in just a minute 'cause you did make a strong point he does have injury history and he is he's a pretty big risk right now okay i get that part but it was also it also can clear later in the evening that kevin durant's tyree took less to go to the net so that they could get their other friend there other if we could go banana boat for those three guys they haven't and actually written a banana boat to my knowledge but they all belong on a banana boat those three do andre jordan who played briefly with stevie nicks last year but i had the get him under the cap at ten million which is probably more than he's worth right now the but he's their friend right so to get him under they all took a look at those two took a little less right okay so would that mitigate the circumstance a little bit the knicks they're saying well we can't kevin goaded the max well if i'm kevin durant's i don't care how much they pay me because as you pointed out many times he has so many lucrative investments in silicon valley that remain in operation judge just because he's in absentee owner now doesn't mean anything he's fine you can run them from a distance right in he is made so much money in his career this was legacy this is your chance to go there and revive a sleeping giant hasn't won a championship since nineteen seventy three this is your chance to win another championship with the knicks x that would allow blitzer rate all the criticism you got four leaving russell westbrook in oklahoma city joined forces with the guys that had just come from three one down to beat you steph clay dream on right yeah this is a chance if you want a couple championships with the knicks you'd need kyri along also but if you both chosen the knicks you could've started making the case in the end they you were the second best player in the history of basketball to michael jordan that's how big an opportunity you just left on the table for what for i think it's just friendship no seriously that's what it's i think it's what he never could connect with in golden state he was there thinking maybe i'll become friends with staff and they couldn't become friends right but we will talk about the way we're gonna talk about later but they never quite a bit in he went there thinking maybe dream on don't become my best friend and they had a terrible falling out which led to some terrible comments made by dream on so he felt like he never really he kind of had to go his own way last year in golden state right right yeah he was a man on an island and sometimes you could see it in the way they played her didn't play right okay so he's saying at this stage of my career i opt for kyri three nd andre well here's the shock to me i think kyri is the alpha here because we kept hearing from karnal a couple of weeks then it was nets nets nets retiree and i kept thinking hungrier you're gonna go this alone because i couldn't imagine cabin also joining the nets i thought it was gonna be kyri or bust for the nets okay so help me out here i think it was kyri who said kevin we gotta go nets because of what you're you're kind of going to the clippers right you're going to a team that was forty two and forty said they have better pieces and they do have a little better pieces but they're not exactly a championship waiting to happen right now right though i think the thing you bet it would it would take longer the knicks to get those pieces the next this is you know they put all their eggs they will get by on they really thought they were gonna get value in that didn't happen and so now they created all this cap space they traded freezing 'cause they got rid of the tim tim hardaway junior contract to open up all this cap space basically to they want to order three guys they wanna carry k d n y income to find out if they don't get the number one overall draft pick they don't get kyrie they don't get why they don't get katie they struck out with all the case if i guess i guess case in order so it will it will be flat out and disaster and so now you've given guys bobby portis julius random i get all that but for me what this tells me about kevin durant's event now i would rather win a title with my friends in because after he won the first remembers give me saying is that it this is this what is where where's where's where's the hunter hunter margin member marching band where where where the orchestra where it's where everything that comes along with this you see what happened in golden state skip he wanna title teammates now he wants to win a title with friends okay what happened in skipping golden state you look at this katie mccabe excuse me dream on clay and steph they grew up together it would have been the quivalent if k d one in okay see us with him search i i agree with that in it never quite the bonding never quite took place because stepping him with a different skill when he got that will happily married with two kids katie's coming in single yeah but we've never never gonna work so i assume he and kyrie are so close that that he listened the kyri who said let's go nets and i'm assuming he listened to d andre remember which with the knicks last year for he played nineteen out of thirty one games so he got a taste of the culture under davis's day right i'm gonna guess d andre jordan toll k d no no on david phys dale and maybe being tire well i think he likes beer i just felt like he like your division could remember remember skip the laugh i think he was a d n p the last seven games but he was not not surprisingly right go ahead it seems like they were going in a different direction they want to go young how do you audrey understood that okay so this feels from me a little like the choice lebron made to come to las angeles no matter if i have a co star not i wanna go that way you could argue with me all day until the cows come home or don't come home that lebron chose the lakers in part because of the hollywood in part in now to me kevin has has made a similar choice at advanced age and he's been taught this is twelve year he's been twelve years in the league he made a choice i just wanna play with my friend right tytler no title i'm not sure title is his priority right now again brooklyn is a little better situated to make a run with those two guys but but kevin obviously can't play next year but what did you do what you tell me all last week kevin durant do things that will bring fireworks will you least expect it carry marches to his own drunk his own beat they won't do things that you like because everybody's thinking they're going to make why not go to the knicks the knicks and so how loads up this madison square garden the biggest acc football there why wouldn't you two guys will to perform all that stage we go in brooklyn we're gonna make brooklyn stage like the knicks that's how they think skip you know when you get to that level you have supreme call but if in your ability and what you can do all right back to the knicks if i ran the next would i have plunged in offered kevin durant the max you better believe i have 'cause you just have to you you just you just got rid of porzingis to to do this yeah those do where do you have a legit concerns about it you better believe it because what happened to the marcus cousins he came back after year and yet all the warriors said he never looked right all of last year i couldn't run up and down the floor couldn't get back in shape an he often complain that his foot only achille side hurting right we saw flashes of brilliance in the finals right it could only be for four minutes here in five minutes here right yes is that gonna be the kevin durant we see in two years my he need a whole year back yeah to get right laser guy yes so that would mean we have to wait three years out yet until we start to see the old kevin durant's in all his glory well at that point he will be thirty three years away in maybe he'll start showing a little wear and tear so were the knicks right to say timeout wait a second because he had the jones fracture back in oklahoma city of austin basically all year took three three surgeries the get it right and it was on his right foot right you can't tell me that there were some sort of imbalance path apology going on there up and down the leg that operated to the point that he finally pulled calf tore achilles tendon right and he's had a lot of calf injury had a lot of cap injuries and he's had a sprained knee it was on the other side but he he can be injury prone so i get that you'd say okay maybe that's the problem in by the way on kyrie irving is home okay he's way injury prone number one and number two he's diva from alameda notches i love him am i am i is it possible that next year he continues the get exposed as a guy who can't leave who alienates teammates is it possible in his one year by himself would know kevin durant's the heat alienates a bunch of the nets the way he alien all of the celtics if you know how he is yeah okay he goes to the to the beat of his own robert to a fault so is it possible you start looking at the net is it possible the nets made the wrong choice sure it it is it possible you look back in three years and say boy the knicks paid the right move yeah you might look at it on paper but in the big picture emotionally they they made the wrong you just have to plunge offering the math thing about this skip the in twenty nineteen after all the bad contracts that james dolan has given out of being now that's a very good point 'cause they have a legacy and this is where even the nothing good enough when kevin durant and by the way listen i don't the biggest mellow contract was not a good idea 'cause you got really nothing right back for an indian mari contract remember that used in god you're on with it's horrible greenway how many of them would just give it i'm like what can you say omari in orange more modest outlined in metabolize houston they've had just it's the highway is littered with back full contracts berry out yet so you didn't want another one of those but in this case the two time finals mvp you just close your eyes and blew it yes the cost of doing business even the risk you have let me question but here's the thing if you look at all these other guys they've got the five years in one seventy eight one eighty before you decide that even if kevin ran does not come back at a hundred percent kevin the rat because back in eighty five ninety percent he's still better than all but maybe eight players in nb eight eighty five ninety percent you just do the gator skip that there's a huge risk given when you believe that he could possibly come back and be the kevin the rat if he can get back to that is a huge risk but it must be a risk you're willing to take given what you get rid of preventative why do trade hardaway junior declare all this cap space inherited the guy sitting there if he tells you know you could lead with that tells you know because you're not gonna give him the matt that can't happen okay so in the end you tell me okay maybe they think to themselves let's go put the nets on the champion that they did go to the finals in o t to and then backed back and oh three byron scott they had coach remember that yeah and they they lost to the spurs six that was a second year and they got swept by the lakers the shack lakers so again they have a little bit of of at least finals legacy but but they're still the clippers to me it just still doesn't feel right kevin durant will look back and say i had an opportunity to go big go new york city to go madison square garden unless he just wants to kind of like like he says i i did all that i won back to back finals mvp is when nobody thought i could so this feels a little bit like send my retirement media kevin durant's every little bit skip ever ever breaking and i see the mets he signed kyri start here now they're telling their pet or the knicks the nets were telling people they've got kevin the rat they've got kevin the rat and then when it finally breaks carry kevin around side with the myth it seems real the get to the top three prime rate of the free agent market i gotta do you feel well that's that's my point i don't know if been in the works yeah it just it happened yesterday now is because kyrie said hey let's do this let's do this and i guess kyri is the dominant of the two friends i think he dictated let's go to the nets let's do haven't said let's do this k d we go put the mess on the map now could you imagine if we wanna title with that we've got them back it'll happen we get a what we were talking about that little later on talking about that nick you know everybody get why right who wrote a facet who old cold call wow yeah yeah i don't i don't think you're i think the milk which is all the way through delaware you're doing the turtle you i wish in into not a number i don't worry about i have seen the great guys in that certainly the big winners winners in free agency they also got a commitment from garrett temple you should sign on july six hey guys jenny taft here and before the show moves along i wanna talk to you by ziprecruiter their job sites that send you tons of the wrong reza mace disor through that's not smart but you know what is smart going to ziprecruiter dot com slash undisputed to hire the right person ziprecruiter doesn't depend on candidates finding you it finds finds them for you it's powerful matching technology scans thousands of resumes identifies people with the right skills education and experience for your job and actively invites them to apply so you get qualified candidates fast that's that's why ziprecruiter is rated number one by employers in the u s this rating comes from 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the phony to oh yeah so yeah you're gonna be indifferent to he'll be sad seal then deliver you'll be on your mobile phone you know that's the letting you know you know what i find it very ironic given this reminds me of something that happened in twenty sixteen you remember would like leading up to be a let the general election is that they were asking people it all and kept saying i would never vote for donald trump he's he's bears and he that and lo and behold guess who's in the white house yeah everybody keeps saying i would i don't wanna play with lebron james even rick i have no reason to doubt him i believe he told his rhythm i'm just saying why i told him i don't wanna come go compete with it i wanna compete against yes and lo and behold because you know why they say that skip there's no benefit in saying i want to play with lebron james because everybody's gonna do what you would do that he would rip them apart do what do you think michael jordan would say he won't certain plus the guy he would never knew that he would not have everybody wanna play with the king day selfish oh really most of selfish go of all time normally go so not gotten really selfish better not legal one go just go right here i'm talking about leaving the book when you break it down skill in this would even be worse than the knicks if the clippers don't land while later skip this will be a bigger fiasco then what the knicks suffered i agree because they have top the bottom ownership much better the structure of the organization west run much better agree we could all agree that doc rivers currently right now the better coach david phys dale hot so hot if they miss out on why this would be a bigger disaster knew what the knicks suffered yesterday okay so you're getting opportunity play with the bravo bravo until you come that here i'm a big banks we take a look arguably road and i'll make shop facilitate you in aiding i will make sure this thing go go loans moving you'd never have to worry about me getting in the way you know i mean james you the word i got one foot in hollywood feed that you go see see see what you do you do this advertise true no not going down yeah man says you know what i wanna make sure everybody's comfortable i understand you got 'cause i wanna leave this thing great hair i wanna leave it in better shape to what i found it you remember how the bron got here and the lakers were older trashy in case you didn't know then he says i want the leaving in a better situation what are bad and i want to make sure atypical why has this thing moving forward for years and years ago so i went in the conceit something that's what lebron do that's why he go so you're meeting he's on the downside nothing you do know the lakers rehab this this world renown pt judy yet that's it that's why i later all that's very important to remember it with the team with the you know the athletic trainers in san antonio they him up out of their low these people are more important than we previously fall and they remember he had a very close relationship to to the guy that within a toronto at the time so they give them a lot more credit scared because you know gotta build that trust now i don't see that being a problem vote with that being said i got a straw famous you like you you know you had your tell me where the caliber of player before you got a feeling i just got this i just got this feeling gs mila so what would you make it ninety percent he's gonna sign would you more yeah i've got no i like i feel like not a right now ninety five the braun seventy if lebron goes to the free throw line they do not see how many kids don't do that now i am so dearly before that number to choose the clippers or even if he chooses to resign in toronto so you can feel at least a little the way i felt when number two left knee high and dry in san antonio in if he leaves you high and dry which he's capable of doing right here right now because i don't think he's taken one meeting yet and i think he's about back tobaks and i don't know if it's gonna be lakers clippers clippers lakers but he's going to give both franchises a shot to convince them they should be his destination for the next four five years so i am so dearly hoping that he stiffs you as you're lakers the way he did spurs so you could just get a little taste of my medicine then i've been taken over here for about a year now and then maybe you'll start calling him number two two if he steps you am i right and i think it is very possible that you are overlooking just the firepower fifty clippers are about to roll out whatever oh they're gonna roll out doc rivers okay jerry west and the deepest pockets in sports and steve bomber you build an organization that has been gearing up for at least a year to make this presentation on day yes what's about to be rolled out there and they did maybe in a little bit of a panic move they did leap last night once jimmy butler went down with he's going to the heat writing in at at certain points we thought it might be even number two in k d to the clippers then it became number two in jimmy butler to the clippers in now it comes down to all we'd better go resigned patrick beverley end they leaked on it and they gave him oh is it three years forty million pretty good money for patrick beverley considering he may five million last year okay i mean he did he did another eight million dollar able you're good well again you might say it's a little bit of desperation but at least they have now position themselves to bring back pretty much the same town they lost garrett temple to a brooklyn brooklyn so again he was a role player then but a good one yeah he could play defense and occasionally shoots threes but the point is that now you you look at the clippers they went forty eight and thirty four last year pretty good won't be that they want a couple of games in the first round against kevin durant's warrior to at oracle they on those games their team on the verge at least they could bring it back as is if they could add number to that could put them over the top in the west happening that's the pitch they're about to make an i'm going i hope number two is watching right now because i'm asking some hard questions you're gonna love it that i want him on why why why you say why would you join the circus he's the kind of kid who doesn't wanna join the circus he does he wanna play in those shadow he saw oh is in yeah you got talent as a kid what you wanna do you wanna showcase a better place the showcase been nothing but i like why would number two suddenly wanna play in the hottest spotlight in all of sports 'cause he's gonna get real hot on that staples stage if he signs with the lakers because they're going to become the center of bnb eight universe does he want that wall and worst of all he's going to join a team in which he will be clearly the third wheel i don't care how you slice it it's lebron it's aideed or they are they're saying in their clutch clients so they're gonna again all those about another all influences dares whatever they want they will get those two will get you're going to be the third we love him he's gonna be the third musketeer at best at what always happens deliverance third musketeer the goat as you call up a big old quotes around go horthy he needs a scapegoat and he's always had one he had chris bosh in miami he had kevin love in a cleveland guys who are okay this will now this guy's gonna be that guy yeah right he's the lamar instead of turning out to be the third guy will be the guy instead of having a twenty seven eight nate this drama dropping down to twenty four ten in six is the most overprotected superstar in the history of sports is you're man lebron james led by you you're resident i'll be blind witness fan club in all the blind witnesses always say if if if there's a big epic fail by their man number six now number six number six epic fail they'll say we gotta blame we gotta blame the third whale shark fall number two you blame for this title about who you are blamed for that nobody oh you ain't gonna win one and by the way you're cutting so you say you got lots of do we already got it now where we go why we're not only the title you already betting thirty case just anthony why would you want another bad our all of our all the world the fifty year yeah okay come skill can you imagine i said it would be unfair and i just think of the commissioner adam silver who happens to be the best commission going right now i think he let this happen you go happened in evitable i'll look it up this morning inevitable that which is bound to a court kerr that word it did you look it up no i know i said most people actually know that that should i don't know i did go you know they taught me that at vanderbilt i don't know you know why coming up little i have so much risk back for the firepower running the clippers right now i'm not ruling out the clippers i realize it now looks a little worse with the clippers because there's not a clear costar club no coat cut off if you're watching number two why don't you have the guts to go compete against lebron james is he said to rebuke or not i don't wanna compete with him i wanna compete against him have the guts that's the one thing i know about why low but i do know about a local issue shaming gonna do what you wanna do oh yeah they'll just see yeah let's just see if this yeah i you know i love it i know how he is built i know what he's made every other rights stuff he is not an alpha an he does not want to go to a team with two outs is already where he just be relegated to i'm along for this ride whereabouts alone you eat low we yeah you you get called up who eat furniture who get the biggest see how we do things like a laugh when the broad adian kyri i mean why we don't worry about who's the biggest piece of chicken we don't worry about who give emerge oh my play how we do it there because everybody 'cause they're thinking about a pasco when things go well everybody will get a slice of well speaking of slice of pie let's say he does joined forces with lebron and eddie who closes form look roger her co why no no no not made of closure style here's a better question is who knows enough to go watch gene what we need a girl who got three guys go oh so won't even be closer gaffney they closed their do getting out of hand okay now we might not you keep on talking rigaud seventy five and seven but if you be nice to me i tell me go sixteen fourteen now woman into how many cases dude we get on sixty eight and fourteen now we'll go that we may lower animate brought on his way of a wild miss like twenty eight legal myth so a you know we'd be sixty sixty how to be i hope he does sign with the lakers 'cause this team would then become the big heart because they'd all three be hurt here and there and everywhere they all three have recent injury history starting with lebron is what they what do what may golden state so unbeatable that two of the three could have off nights and the third guy in sixty and so if two of the three that guess what we still got we've still got this is what we're gonna have we're gonna have three of the top six players in all of basketball never in the history of the game him nobody say that that's what whereabout of fast so i found it interesting last night the anger shelburne or any espionage said that maybe this is what would be the number two group decided would be sort of a loyalty test let's let's play this out for forty eight hours and see which of these teams that were talking to would leak well what leaked right away on it might have been on saturday i'm losing track of the days was leaked magically magic the magic just immediately league he made a talk on the phone but we all know what are you like that but that just goes to show you this is why you never burn bridges be employed e or implore because you never know now who did he say he did wait a second magic burned his bridge to the ground i thought but you can't do that but guess what no he didn't say i wanna so he talked a magic bird he didn't talk to raw hagia genie he did talk about it we've been told us about the behind the scenes because i know about so he talked to the guy first who quit on the franchise rational absolutely john hewitt am i they would give me what they promised maybe he wanted the dirt did he get the dirt yeah the thing that magic johnson real live he could do more help you be more beneficial to the lakers and magic johnson better air recruiters irving johnson so once magic got the call hey he wants to talk to you first by phone go dennis magic immediately just went full leap right because magic wand and everybody you know i'm i'm still when you we gotta do is give you can keep it and let me let me tell you what it mccollum ever would ever get my number call billable i'm calling my brother my my momma bear free i'm gonna fight it she's got you're number she she might not a call him other movies in that discussion with magic johnson quiet as i'm gonna ask you about bringing his own medical staff and as well as in function of the whatever you wanna call a mile right next up today today the worry of activity on the first day of free agency as expected klay thompson agreed to that max deal but here's an unexpected golden state finalizing a trade for dangelo russell and then training for a finals mvp vichy andre dollars in memphis salmonella force katie decision to leave for brooklyn steph curry reportedly left china the flight of new york the tells the katie athletic reports that found out duran leaving wall staff was on the flames went ahead of new york anyway though that thank katie the three years they worked together shannon interesting turn of events why do you think katie ended up leaving golden state woman who build the championship been giving his ultimate peace of what he thought it would give himself because he immediately said this is it this is why i thought i thought it would be more 'em you can't put on skip you know the old saying you can't put a price on happiness even at fifty seven million dollars 'cause that's what kevin the rat left on the table and golden state by signing with brooklyn with happiness you get we talked about this a little earlier dream on clay and steph they grew up together it's kinda like you you know you have you're free of everywhere through k all the way the twelve and then there's this other guy came out more you're high school cool it all he good i mean we blame altogether play football basketball branch cool but he's not like the one that we grew up together where that's what the a caveat in okay see here russ here serge ibaka skip they grew up together i believe he won that that would have gave him more peace more enter piece what he got golden state i agree just could never get that mhm and it wasn't until it became too late that the fans started to give kevin the rat the praise the adulation and be appreciation that he saw because it wasn't until they got down three one in the rumblings starting to grow the k news coming back and then they saw what he did in that game five in the first four minutes of the game who been they realize just how special kevin the it was because they have steph steph wasn't even coming close to doing it by himself and it was that guy get we said this look they were great team before k d but in a seven game series that seven foot monster made the virtually on peter because they had no answer for it because you like things were going hey why couldn't remember that game three lead or against cleveland the second time around that finished with ten point i think klay had a level well it was kadian at forty three that when we can try to go get farther and farther out k d three katie katie with a poster he couldn't get what he wanted yes he wore the title but he warning more for in that title could build that quaint that desire to be loved to be appreciated entered do it with friends missed something fair tobias get going and i mean 'cause knowing where people go they go like did you got out and when you ain't got no friend just only frame men ernestine only fringe you've got like if you wanna go do something you like i'm gonna go do my best friend not two guys and i just started meeting and just start a war who would it work over a year ago i won't guys that that grew up where to go alone when this rack and he says i want my best friend kyri andy andre i want them to experience i want experience what i had and golden state winning the title but i want experience with them katie and steph when they intersect just get with the different stages of their life still career with man what a beautiful beautiful wife had two little girls remember skip a riley riley a current became a mean because every night at the game steph curry would bring out there and said she'd be sitting over there and let looking holding holding court katie got their katie was single go and so they're different stages of life indifferent for this article rare will marcus thompson skipped meeting that he is a terrific piece you go out with them but i issue his family friends close associates if you know when guys go out we wanna talking about saying we don't want mama will one family member there might be around premier to what we're talking about that's just the way it goes nothing wrong i i have no problem with the way still conduct his business but i'm just telling you as as men when we go out we talk about things that women do not need to be dealt we don't want them around here so that's why kevin yourself but it's okay whatever artist they don't wanna be around you when you talk at all crazy and talking about a number two and she called the guac not sure she's still love but skip what he couldn't get in golden state now you can get a in brooklyn is the ability to win a championship france what did you always tell me about kevin durant and golden state no matter how great he is no matter how many championships they wins it will always be steph steamship bottom line so when i read the marcus thompson pc games terrifically written in research what did it smack of to me it had come from somebody i don't know if it came straight straight from steph but somebody in his camp one at this out there the steph flew all the way from where were they in shame you got all the way from shanghai to new york city in didn't hear until he was in mid flight oh it's over he's committed to right yet still went on to new york because he wanted the cmt quote marcus based vice man demand friend a friend to say hey love you man appreciate all that you've done to me there's some pr operating here because he wanted the world to know especially warriors nation to know that don't blame me i tried i did the best i could get kevin come back right don't put it all on me because we never quite clicked okay yeah they should they should give me got the driver's seat and got in the passenger seat so okay did drive you did but again i think he wanted a clear i went out of my way either help three recruiting or at least think one way or the other i went to new york and i knocked on his door and i said hey congratulations gratulations right okay so it makes steph come off a little bit better but now we go back to why did this unravel i think it started about a year ago at the teams championship celebration do you remember the bob myers room hey he tried to make a joke about this i think we have if we could show it let's see it right now and they're catering in whatever contract he wants next year the media he can model another level behind closed doors because i think last year you told me you gotta have any contract he wants to so yeah he he's he's been here from the way before days he's earned they're ended the warriors cohesion rather shows three began ooh you see kevin spacey's motorola however you drink two months the night before you may be trying to make a joke that slop bell ride on its head in everybody groaned any audience they knew the warriors ground in some grants modern day himself it felt like the beginning of the end because i think it was two drew steps here from the beginning he deserved his contract earned it you earned it yeah no i won't work then we had the dream on incident and you and i've talked about it thirty nine times on this show but it was serious business man the man in in anger what you're lying about a man tell the truth drunk driving repeat right there you go this is extreme anger anger in it actually played into the issue with the warriors this year is that kevin is like give me the ball run the back or like he wants the ball on her dream was like no no i could do this i i got on faster new you are on is a lot faster and kevin the basketball and how many times did he or teams the plows by just taking it just full coordinate how many times and he beat portland down the call my goodness roamers numerous times so he's saying no were better if i do this right now kevin slapping the basketball an now the clash starts and jerry's over onto the bench at ironically staple center in dream on says we won without you and then he calls in that word wave it afterwards you know you always have been that you are that we won without you leave solely just go ahead and leave an they they're all the multiple reports say they mended defense i just never bought it and i don't think it ever gets mended when you say that out of anger you speak your heart yeah spoke his heart kevin 'cause that's what dream on deep down believes we we won't without you only give you never say something permanently hurtful when you temporarily upset yeah there you go skip is hard to overcome that is hard overcome it cost me as as napoli ever napoli skip you have this supreme comedies but they hear someone say is steph different steph has been here longer he's earned it kevin resident you do realize i just won back to back finals mvp and i she hit forty three in game three that really closed a series win you're guy had ten point one why were you overhear talking we laugh and give me seriousness k d we were having berry berry different outlook on steph curry hey k d not showing up i'm not so sure they have two more wins in the finals models katie agreed on so now we're looking at steph curtain we're not looking at steph curry could you pass magic johnson is one of the greatest point guard kenny move into the top ten that's not even open for debate that's not even open for discussion i agree had it not been for now it was a great trade off because kevin the rat got an opportunity go there and see how this thing with the inner workings lover and it would permit still courage it took a lot okay i got two times it'd be a two time mvp right in the katie show nobre now two point number three something went on with kevin's injury in i don't know who to believe her what to believe something weird about it yes in all i know for sure is that he went all the way to new york city did get his achilles phillies reattach by the surgeon who is the nets team surgeon in it is no coincidence there's a connection there in fact the same surgeon did kevin jones fracture when when he needed the get it fixed the third time in the ronald time you he did it you got it right so that was at another issue here which left golden state in alert in i thought it was complete panic on their part to give deangelis russell dumb max they could given what is it what is it max skip skip here's a guy that had the third the third highest usage rate were trapped behind hardening russ that makes sense doesn't need the guy that will dribble the ball more into possession then then klay thompson will in a single night true i'm trying i'm like maybe it's because clay is gonna be outlets for the late february early march yup and they need to pick a guy that could score the basketball but when you really break it down and you look at okay clay still dream on you're angelo this this unless you're tell me you could trade him at the date the drug that maybe maybe maybe maybe that they piece may what they're gonna do but i tell you something very interesting it reporter chris haines reported that they had come the andre igwe dollar dollar earlier in the week if we louis k d were probably gonna move you here's the truth telling the breakfast club a skill you can't give away the sequel to the original recipe man expect dakota avenue back and that's true he did he knew he pulled mike murphy everybody you know draft in what they cooking it wasn't important in the you can't do that but guess what i heard you know who is former oh rob linka now map and what we knew no day going you so why would they want a thirty five thirty three if you're on a log on now all right i'm not just saying do you know i i don't know who is for major would do you know where former agent in oh robbie gold robby mm robbie mm you want to be well no way either dollar figure it out eight stuff gentleman no on friday he was women's national team got a link to one win over france to advance to the semifinals of the women's world cup next but showdown with england catch all the action tomorrow at two eastern on fox and the fox sports app all right ready to take note they eastern conference going through a complete facelift yesterday the celtics lost kyrie irving but they regroup suicide kimball walker the pacers added malcolm brogdon feeling lost jimmy butler to the heat but they brought back tobias harris and will add al horford mommy mbh champion raptors are in a holding pattern just waiting on quiet how much they keep track of shannon right now if you had to pick who's the best team in the sixers is not close a good look at the al horford or tobias harris the player player the jimmy butler is no but there's something to be said for locker room and i believe that's what out or if it will give them a bigger presence in the locker room in more calming presence not is confrontational in in in in in maybe jimmy think that's the the way to go about it but you can't confront everybody everybody is not gonna be on the same wavelength have the same type of demeanor or want the same thing i want to go about the same things you do i think al horford every third or fourth option is is a great position for him skip the mistake the boston made is that when they find him they didn't have kyri and they didn't have gordon hayward so he's the lynch pin he's the number one guy that's not what he is he's not a guy you build around the oh yeah we go and play without but you put joel embiid in the mix you put ben simmons in the mix you add tobias harris now you got a nice quality player better joel embiid miss times you could slide into the bat he can play he and play the five he could play the ball he could stretching shoot three young men now there'll be held on defense that's a big big big big big frontline team everybody goes six nine above the by the shorter six matt illegals six ten ben simmons seven to joel embiid sixteen and a half six to eleven al horford and then i love the swap with josh richest guy that can play di did shoot the three can write off guy so i like them skip about boston got got better carrying the better player kimball walker but cat rehab these issues that didn't sit well in that locker room mhm i'm not so sure there'll be many people in boston locker room and i don't know how the fans feel about inskip but i don't think there's many people involved in organization that's upsetting they got reasonable number there milwaukee has to be good they brought back chris middleton they did lose brogden but they were able to reach side of brook lopez i just saw the they they might have found his brother robin lopez so i think they'll still be good who toronto's in a heap of trouble but right now as we sit here the sixers and it's not even close waiting so now it's a done deal number two is not going back to toronto storms they're they're in a holding pattern okay you know skip that they look either either put me down the don't take off if i got i hey we're like well you know the traffic is backed up over no hartsfield jackson in so we're gonna be at home mom put me down go i take the time that we got did this fall last week you were saying he should go back to toronto that would that would vote for our best both yeah you've said a lot of things change from the far right okay so what if he does let's do the cynical what if he does go back to toronto then who's the best team bayless still yes wow so you're meeting he made the lucky shot in the history of the bad i am i right they gotta do is do okay because i agree with your premise because if joel embiid doesn't have to viruses into sore knees they're going to win that series against toronto it went to the last shot it and again that was with the jimmy butler they decided didn't really fit so so they're winning you might say inspite of i love jimmy butler but let me tell you in value in overall impact on and off the floor he is not al horford i will take out horford over jimmy butler any day or any night night at as the more valuable member of my basketball team all al horford is done in his career is make the playoffs every year in its because he was always the rock the driving force see the he's he's the one they all look to leader in big shiny new can't be the best player no okay i got that he doesn't look like the best player he doesn't act like the best player he makes a lot of big shot and he makes a lot of big defensive stops young you need it most he will block a shot we say where did that come from right right so to me that if you roll out that five of embiid and ben simmons an al horford in tobias is back in josh which to me is a budding young star it's three indeed he gives you but it's starpower those five that's the best five and east do they have much that they do not they still have mike scott and that's about it allows right now they lost jj so they need to add some shooters and the list getting meager by the minute the more you regional smaller any worse and worse does but south korea's out there danny green man he way no way no no no no i i got i got a feeling a bit of a delay you do it could be depending on maybe with the clippers none of them have been going back to try and look i know what you're trying to you're trying to be given to exist i might work so the point is they need some shooters to replace jay jay do by the way is now a pelican in the pelicans all of a sudden they look like for let's say hey give me remember i would say the lakers jj redick will look good in a lakers uniform in everybody that will come up here and tell me oh he even prince did not believe that oh he loved fairly okay really no he let me tell you what love border fairly money money or let's go win with a bunch of kids were wearing what when where why win a bat with you wait right ahah well jfk i will i will i will let you buy 'cause we wanna thank why today by product six o'clock and i'm gonna be will let you buy half the case with other other that you gotta pay the full price to be okay now center wait go so now let's look at the rest of these so do i told you i love jimmy butler i love his guts i love his toughness don't love his leadership he's just a challenger fire starter in so he wanted his own state she's a d wade you know almost disciple again wait so he says let me go try to replace d wade is the solo star in miami okay so last year they went thirty nine and forty three will he pushed him into a eight thirty seven seed i believe he will could they take the number one seed thirty eight seed just six or seven games yeah i think they know i just because the jimmy butler that's how much respect i but they're gonna lose in the first round even though it might be a battle they're going to lose because that's the ceiling he's gonna hit in miami amy so they have factor no not to me kimball walker what is he done in his career in charlotte helped me out he made the playoffs twice is a six seed in a seven seed and did not win of who they're going to run into those guys okay so it wasn't a fair fight but still is kimball better than kyrie cheer point is in close he's clove road he's really good but but okay so what were they last year they went and boston win forty nine in thirty three they're gonna be appreciably better with with kim but no charges were you mean what i say forty nine forty three thirty three thirty nine thirty three yes great so are they going to be about the same i i'll give them that except they lost al horford but again arrows you're just on happiness so they're gonna be happier basketball team still nice young coach the coach i think that's gonna be the biggest thanksgiving sometimes you know what kerry was bringing in that locker room big guys weren't happy yup you saw a jaylen brown take a step back roads year took a step back jason tatum is not the same guy in the playoffs the previous year so i think by bringing kimber ill end where he might not be kyri mars bigshots let's give you got handles he could hit big shots to now can you just a little man he he's he's a little man but i just think the peace and harmony there's gonna be in the locker room when they have it on the court because i don't think see kyri hit that big shot he was a champion he saw himself his way up here and the guys were here that won't work well now they're all in the same level which means they're gonna be the fifth need you know did they win a series maybe they could maybe i mean we have david but we know who might be the best team in the whiskey which brings us tuesday milwaukee bucks i don't know they lost brogden but they retain their real estate in a little bit yeah so they could still be very good i mean they had the best record in basketball a lot of bill you know chris middleton vibe was seventy eight and they'll but let me ask you a question skilled at some point they'll have the blow this up because honestly the line next year the get five to fifty three to fifty four that's four hundred and twenty plus million four hundred thirty million guys who you really going the luxury tax for that 'cause not winning a title new or like nobody goes on next year's beer or but it is now so i could see a goofy oh yada yada won't believe in enchanting air point they did use their room exception four point eight million decide robin lopez other but you you're breaking news there that's a lower paying all that he will do anything on the court you go to a bit of people's mesko rob lowe where do people get ended a kevin durant and kyrie irving are both in brooklyn they reportedly signed last in the matt asking also signed d andre jordan duran it was entrusted in the neck but james dolan reportedly wasn't fair to sign him to a max deal because of concerns about that achilles injury any is of course expected to all of them were joined once again by one envy analyst restart good morning good morning how are you surprised that katie and kyrie both decided to go i mean we've been here for weeks that kyrie was honed in on in that in that he was trying to convince k d so i can't say i'm surprised at all but what i will say this i do think as we were hearing all year about k d in the knicks i do think he was zeroed in on the knicks but i think a few things happen to change his mind what i don't think happened change his mind is that the knicks were willing to give him the max like i don't believe that period first of all from talking to the knicks after k got katie got hurt so talking to the knicks today in yet yesterday told him yesterday i think they were gonna offer him the max end i think this is spin from either like i'm told they didn't talk internally or wiz k d's raps about offer him anything less than the mess big i think this is spin from either james dolan getting it out there so it doesn't look like the knicks got rejected for brooklyn or from k d's camp so it doesn't upset people in new york that oh you rejected the knicks going right for the net so you do think he rejected the knicks ultimately yeah i mean he didn't shoot it look he's not even getting the maximum brooklyn nope he's taking less the get go to brooklyn so they could be andre jordan d andre jordan was trying to get k d n kyri the go to the knicks andy andre was like i'm gonna go wherever you guys though when he was he his preference was new york okay so i think what what happened was when katie got hurt that changed everything because the knicks all along it was two guys they won they were willing to go all in order for the max collide leonard or kevin durant's they would take someone else kyri kimber maybe jimmy butler west is one of them if that's what it took with kyri it was like we want k d n will take kyri with k d but was katie gets hurt now he's out for year now you face the prospect of having kyri leading your team and your locker room for eight years and they were concerned heard about that so that turn things the second thing was i don't know if it was related to that but kyrie this siding or brooklyn like i don't know how much he was ever in the knicks but when it became apparent he was all in all in brooklyn that shift things to cause katie especially with the injury didn't wanna go there by himself right like if kyrie is not going there in kyri did grow up he grew up where i liver new jersey he grew up in that span his father had season tickets when kyrie little so this may be like a dream on river kyri i know spencer dinwiddie recruiting like shrimp december so yes and relationships there and i think i'm gonna say this to cause a lot of people were killing these guys i think this show some self awareness all year we've been talking about how k d in kyri do not like dealing with aggressive in abrasive media right whether you will call insensitive or whatever it is they don't like i think they thought about that and i think they said look in new in brooklyn we can get the benefit of living in new york playing in new york which out you're gonna have scrutiny because his brooklyn in his name bay but without as intense a media scrutiny as we would get with the knicks and so i think that lebron there's new york city outlets the manhattan now you're gonna cover the brooklyn nets there is but it's still they're still a defense i covered the nets where the new york times when they had john calipari so we covered the art but it is still as you know it's a different but you know the today's world you get scrutinize wherever you're at but i think there will be a little different last question before you go bottom bottom line why did kevin durant's choose the nets in you're humble estimation why i think there was nobody else he really was and go to new york wis that was gonna go there with announcing kyri there's necessarily gonna go there wishing geico bottom line he chose net halls of congress but yeah i mean i think there's like everything i said i think is kind of mixed in there i think it'd be doesn't get hurt maybe he's willing to go there alone may be willing to say if kyri won't go kimba that's you know what i mean so i think i'm gonna say the injury change and that's the fact that everything was more concerning to me skip not concerning this i opening that kevin the rat didn't get the max from the nets any already the fifty seven million on the table with golden state so he's leaving somewhere around sixty five maybe sixty five million dollars to say you know what no they they will be the favorites again kevin the rain comes back into that next year but two years there will be the favorite now wanna go play in my friend and i would rather won the title with my friends and be happy as opposed winning championships with teammates because i believe that kevin durant youtube because he came along later we're already in high school you wouldn't go to k through you know come up big in junior high and all that together he got there they were already south steph clay and dream on with already sophomore be other guys come in do you come in my sophomore yeah we go we don't get along using all my own room but it's not the same and i think these guys march they do things their way in because in we we've been hearing right before right before the draft that the drive before they all star star game that k d and carry your package deal and then we saw them talking to the all star game in that's when it really really ramped up get like okay and you know they they were basically you know they wouldn't have the handle what am i would just talking in when people someone asked or for ask about like this just to france talking why do you guys automatically assume so this starting brewing around a little bit before they all star game and it went full circle and so i'm not surprised i just felt that the mets had the better situation they topped the bottle noticed you organizational structure the head coach i believe it's better with the knicks phys dale i believe he's a better goats i the piece is owned the team with the nets are better than what they have it in new york and so for me k d in kyri nothing surprises me about them because katie went to golden state nobody saw that coming in the wake of a towering at did once he got to a situation that he demanded that he being demanded that if you don't trade trade me cleveland i'm tempted they have surgery in sit out the entire season so situation but he fought so hard the get into heroic that so i i'm not surprised at all but k k d it just tells you everything you need to know about k d in a situation in golden state by doing what he did take you even less money than what he could have gotten golden state who do how much do you think the narrative getting away from that narrative of the most the most important thing which i think you do if he if he wins it with brooklyn then i think he totally gets away from that narrative although i think the narrative with dispel to a great degree with what happened in michigan where i cannot comfortable with this i'm shocked by it much more then you two are i'm disappointed in kevin i think he made a huge mistake i don't think he'll ever think that and i'm not gonna condemn for it but this feels like the kind of decision and you make when you wanna send my retirement and i'm not saying the winning still isn't a priority but you had a chance to go do something very special with the knicks they still play in the most hallowed arena in all sports in they still play in new york city in there the biggest sleeping giant in all of sports and it's not even close they haven't won a championship since nineteen seventy three and i think in his heart of hearts he knew do that i gotta do that if you're talking about legacy gotta do that in but friendship one out yes because he didn't have that close friend with the warriors dope in this is his closest friend in the closest friend is saying hey i'm i'm i'm going to the nets i love the nets i grew up loving this i'm going here i'm going here and he kept be known until finally katie said okay i give up right i'll follow you to the net end it comes across across to me like of this partnership alpha is kyri the he want out that that kevin could have said okay i'll go it alone i'll go with kimball or jimmy or whoever it was but no it's friendship in it it's sweet on on a certain level 'cause i think they're really genuinely tight but it's it's child light to me in that it almost comes across like i wanna go spend the night at kyrie's house where indian i wanna go there and mama said it's okay she said it's okay if i wanna go spend the night at kyrie's house but i'm gonna go spend it over there in brooklyn you know and i'm tired of fighting it comes across like kevin saying i'm tired of fighting i fought with russell need lover us off the court but they fought on the court like crazy and he could make peace with that and then he had a fight with dream on and he had the fight steffes legacy in real estate and after a while he just said i'm tired of it i don't wanna have go fight for the knicks and again they have a horrible culture and they have the worst owner in sports i get that that's why that would have been the crowning achievement to his career if you could win in spite of james dolan but david phys dale is really good at what he does know you're not gonna be really fun to play for their front office is good like i mean you mentioned aero scott period and gm steve mills present like i think they've revamped their i do to be okay good job by the way sean marks is just a flat out stood and if you sit with two minutes you'll be one over and i'm sure kevin was one over so i got that i i'm i'm a nurse standing that but it's still it's still the clippers of new york is still in brooklyn in it it's not playing the palace it's not like i want the bright lights of new york city the city that never sleeps does does the katie understand the camry is more like roast the people might have different needs at different to though i i think the fist where in the mid like it it will be likely a rough kyri i think is a smarter foyer i think he's not i i kyrie's gonna be the one be like ross would never just be the second guy the one eight but he kyrie's been that jila brand and it and he may be more of an alpha many hated it you could be right and they might guy playing with an ego and be that's okay but came he's not gonna bring the ball up as much as lebron damaging all day for the sake of argument kyri give their drops twenty six and five given to the playoff opponent you better get into the playoffs in katie comeback legal good one bill he's not nearly as good as kevin durant and they won a championship ship any call lebron and apologize he's more mature he's learned he got out of the reason i this is nothing like russ in his get kyrie game is much different the rough we'll watch defeat the fifth the ball he doesn't rebound the ball if not wendy just 'cause you get a high number says russia usage rate is so high school is gonna get the recovery is not his eyes as a writer right hey trust me on this k d in kyri at the top of the list of moody there topic is going to be tough they go i'm not gonna be great i'll say this about the whole new york knicks thing in you're not from new york i'm not from new york i do think it's overblown like when i got to new york to work as a reporter i was shocked how knicks reporters and people in new york thought the knicks were this special national franchise i do like they think they're the lakers or the cowboys are the yankees they're not so i agree with you in new york and because new york still dominates the media there would have been something more the winning with the knicks but for the most part nationally i don't think people were looking at it as like the knicks are like the lakers the lakers are so great in the clippers are underneath them brooklyn i think around the country people won't look at it is all about how new york city would explode if the new world out i've been there we saw lin sanity explode you know just briefly when you're right but i it it's maybe it'll be nice trust me i try this week evil old i know who they're not gonna be tougher there was about as they age how do we talk about the clippers around we've got another grand we are bringing us which sea coast it's quiet leonard going to wear the lakers one goal of this stop no no no the looming question now where will collide leonard ends up chris broussard would know hanging what we know what shannon's answer is chris miller year prediction my answer is the loss angeles lakers not a hundred percent done it is wishful thinking i believe a little space in the rafters and very little for the clippers a little yesterday co why group can't whatever your they call magic johnson several times when magic was church imagine gets out of the church and gift the messages and they talk they told him what they were looking for you know to trainers you know training staff couple of people are people on the staff will get the same treatment within the organization and if lebron james and you know just at all that the things they want to they rigged the news stories of late did did they actually follows that magic quit on the lakers and then trash the gm i don't ever happens if this happens because they're gonna be to people you they should think the lakers in l a valet magic johnson and lebron james in my way of little rock on a clutch but magic johnson and lebron james that's who's orchestrating this whole thing real talk and the thought that if it was true that jamie thought about jeannie thought about trading ron is crazy because they're the ones getting this done believe that little no respect lebron has around the league in their magic is magic you're right i mean he obviously doesn't they should pay consultants fearsome 'cause bringing back this is look is long is genie does not mess it up in the meeting 'cause you go meet with him as long she doesn't mess it up and i don't think she will keep you morale then they will i will get quiet i'm sorry we don't do those things we do that every day i believe he'll end up with the lakers dare his first choice now the clippers i'm told there's a concern or wise part of who's the second guy like is there enough now to me co why is the main man like the the the the criticism people level that kevin durant when he was a golden state and you can't say that about why go wise proven in the big three era that he could leader team with no other superstars or star to the chatter about four stars under the stars wife again i wanna see here's the here's the may may so he could do whatever he wants now let me look at what remembered this all about the clippers co why could easily say weeks ago well not weeks ago but as soon as the finals are over i wanna go there and talk to the clippers i wanna go there get get me kimball give me a second guy weather's kimball weather's jimmy butler al horford who then the clippers would have made it happen so that tells you the preference has been the lakers he grew up a laker fan you did toronto i again i'm a liberal leave him a little change little wiggle room but i think there's a lifestyle he wants to be in southern california andy he toronto lou williams we saw lou williams said last week and this is a toronto fast canadians might not like it is tough for american players so land there and i love visiting toronto do i what i i would not wanna leave their personal it's the what you watch or what you can get on television the grocery store and lou williams says you gotta get a canadian banking account do you go through customs every time you fly out to a game like in the united states so it's just different an idol i don't think this ronald fans if collide lease go hold it against thing i think when he goes back there next year if he's in a laker uniform they got the give him a standing ovation a video tribute the whole nine yards he might even one day if nobody else doesn't he will be the guy you gotta give us fashion to so i think it's lakers yeah and that's what everything is pointing to this is all i gotta say never saying i have you wanna know they wanna see you gotta say 'cause i already know we have about a lot about the new so he said it was a ninety seven percent chance that number two would sign with the lakers by six pm today are you at that stage you ninety eight ninety nine where you i'm raleigh not down ninety or ninety i mean i think i wanna leave a little where everything is pointing i think he's gonna meet with lebron in eight near talk talk to meet with a a by the guy the table that why would somebody wanna play with the thought of my twitter user interface i am hoping most i've ever hope i'm not gonna say i'm praying 'cause i don't pray for these kind of things but i'm hoping beyond hope that he does the both of you what he did to me in san antonio then he leaves you both high and dry both of you got your whole guy you're coming out of the chairs now because you're man lebron's gonna have double help he's gonna have to guys say they've been propping up next week are you gonna be again under withholding i'm hoping that both of you my tomorrow are calling him number two the way i do because he's on you're you know what lists no no no you're lists look i've thought a year he was going to the clippers yeah so i'm okay in he said as latest last friday i think oh he's gotta go back to toronto my right window would you ask me when we when they found out they cleared that max lot nothing given the why but if we can't get why you're backed off let's just spread the wealth we spread it out and so and so but after speaking to a few people yeah became painfully obviously why litter will be very very viable hawks okay so now it's become it sounds like this death match between lakers clippers right because nobody's gonna get left actually actually that's right well i don't know about that i'm gonna just one more time the clippers it sounds like are going to get their meeting am i right about that you think they're gonna declined even meet with most likely they'll get meaning don't hit their me well if they get their leading you're percent is gonna start plunging because these are some of the most persuasive people i know in the national basketball association 'cause i do know jerry west and i know doc rivers therefore they got firepower going on because one of the logo one is one of the best but he's a top five coach and the league in steve bomber obviously didn't get where he is without power for plus personality and he's got the deepest pockets in they have been aligning this whole franchise for a year to make this pitch then i think they're gonna make today but i don't know that i guess what they may have been laid out of their pocket ladder everything for years but let me tell you something michael basket he's not gonna be moved by pitches and you know why because there have been so many people around if they try to give him the change the he looked cut you breathe grooming do away with the corn rose is that nobody ever said that i'm telling you nobody san antonio said that he will listen to san antonio we'll have a team that made you know you are you're right now right now we hollywood and we so we got the guy wanted a play in the shadows of dunkin parker and you know being one of the play in the shadows in toronto in sort of arose out of the shadows 'cause nobody's paying attention until he bounced it four times on the rams the game seven the lucky shot and they history the player me there's never been a lot here today is even paying attention to and until that moment is like oh my god i do i would you mind if if if that i don't agree with that narrative but if that were true lebron is lebron still be the the face of the team so he can just go there with that guy who enjoy playing in the shadows in san antonio why would that guy winner join the circus because this is the biggest surface in all of sports it's gonna be the brightest hottest spotlight in all of them not even gonna he's gonna be the third wheel and everytime lebron has a third wheel chris bosh kevin love what happens the third wheel they'll go as he calls him with big quotes around the scapegoat when the goat ethic fails 'cause he does i i'm very i'm being told the brown is so said he's gonna pull that back i'll believe believe that when i see i will say this is a good recruited i think lebron should if they get co why he shouldn't look at this point the magic non era of his career okay he's just start play like magic inflator point i know i don't think they're gonna do it but you should play the point point it set up colliding with i will give you some pushback stop trying to do to this narrative that you tried to push that he wanted to be he was drafted by the spurs he didn't have a choice because tim duncan with the mvp p finals mvp solos tony parker in modern gianola led the team to the to the olympic gold medal so he had no choice but to come in and the father no molly was i'm not sure do gun in the first round if it wasn't for are see buford trading up the game i'm gonna teach we know now okay we know now but nobody be faithful they got a championship oh they limit requests but he should be before feldman louise did about a new who brad pitt will know sometimes it takes you a row everybody knows who you are okay so what you're point my point is he got a little star role with the spurs yellowstone hey lift they completely rebuilt his shot he had no shot he was strictly a defensive player at san diego state and they took him in revamped in with the best shot doctor in all of our friends we handle and we paid you repaid us by quitting his way he loved it herodotus by giving you a chance but yeah and then you have the hampton ship out duncan parker and you know avoid that area if he shouldn't have been should have you know what i know i could go back and show you wouldn't even the leading scorer in the finals now you're out of debt the lady he he held already one yeah oh yeah they laughed at me when i brought that up so now now he's injury prone and you're gonna have three guys on the leg injury but that that's no problem anymore shouldn't worry we were gonna be we got it we got a late start looking at the college ranks you probably laugh and next year because if koby lottery time oh you know we got judy see how much we bet on lottery time per san antonio won the battle man seriously how much would i would i tell you what you won't you won't go oh i bet you have way right i really like orange and i'm just gonna hold your feet to the fire you just said the spurs will not make the playoffs now let me think about okay there we go somebody has to come out of that top seven or that top eight what do you mean the lakers like one of the themes and made the playoffs long is coming out oh look at it right lakers are getting it you look at it by the way i'm jeremy scott way way better we'll be offering you might be hitting the brakes hard when you run into those give you know we go with the title right now nobody will get a tattoo tomorrow afternoon we're gonna talk about that a little later this morning we gotta move on tomorrow on bob's team usa faith is red hot england and ethics semifinal clash at the women's world cup coverage begins tomorrow to eastern on fox board that vast dna over a month ago sat here on this and predicted and kevin durant and kyrie irving would be brooklynbound yesterday that protection became reality duran also had an interest in the knicks but james dolan reportedly was not prepared the spine katie to a max deal the cause of that achilles injury we're joined now by bleacher report her senior writer euchre written why do you think they chose brooklyn ultimately because the knicks were not choosing kyri kyri chose the nuts and k d and kyrie has been talking for years years since they've played on the national team together about playing together and so ultimately it came down to at the as things involved they knicks were willing to pay max contracts to co i leonard and kevin durant's a co why was willing to meet with them but he wasn't gonna meet until the third and they looked at it and said well there's no assurance that were going to get co why and if we don't get why they were not gonna be able to pry k d away from kyrie that's a bad bet that's where that's it's wishful thinking so let's pivot let's say were gonna go in another direction and ultimately that was there are you saying the knicks would not have taken kyri they would not they would not have taken kyri for a year they did not like the idea of him leading their team for a year waiting for katie ultimately they were willing to see boston to happen on their watch okay so you're saying there is no choice left but for k dean kyri kyri was already pro nets nets not solutely lutely basically those two looking to play together and the knicks looking at the idea of kyrie being their leader for year waiting for katie instill some question in terms of what's k d going to be when he gets here but ultimately worth seven knicks were able to tell kevin you you have to pick another costar yeah well that was it i mean that's why you've got sti be a the news late about co why in k d possibly joining up because the idea was hey katie we got why would you would you sweat and i was told it yes katie would switch if they got co why problem was is that after exploring that they found that why wasn't gonna meet with them until late in the process okay and they didn't have insurance said they were gonna get why so they're like if that's what's gonna take and we can't guarantee they were gonna get him we could be stuck here holding the bag and not being not having done it is still still holding the bag i mean juniors rambling bobby portis in taj gibson best not exactly murderers row i mean they basically what they resorted back to the nineteen nineties that's charles openly advocate tall real now they got skill set they're not as good as right yeah go ahead here's the thing though they're they're they're also cognizant of the fact that they're seventeen win team they have a lot of growth and yes if they could get this this was basically their approach we will pay max money for players that we consider max money players and there were only two guys definitively in this in this class they saw is that which is why in k d and i agree with him right they could've they could've salvage things and gone after tobias harris or jimmy butler or kemba walker and sign them to max deals and as of today people would have said oh well the knicks didn't get there guys but they did the next best thing problem is they would have been paying max money for guys who were not max players maybe they would have won today but they wouldn't have one down the line so the fact that they held fire i don't have an issue with that and as mentioned they they think about a katy i've been told by the knicks a by nick source that a that is not true but they were did they wanna look at the medicals yes where they were unwilling to give him a max contract i've heard that's not true the other part of it is restored also said we you know we haven't seen the medical even let's say it was the case where they were willing to do that i don't know if that's necessarily a bad idea oh 'cause you want medical exactly and you may look at it and say this isn't the greatest the bats so we need to we need to wait and see before this really pays out for the nets so what you're telling me is that kevin durant indian prioritized friendship above all else because his friendship with kyri it one the day yes that's what happened because you can't tell me because he was the biggest domino with the most leverage if he had won it to expedite a meeting with knicks in number two he could've expedited that he could force that last last week he could have pressured he he could have said look we let's join forces on the next would would number two of listen to him i think he would at i i could be wrong yeah and and as i was told with co why why would have said you wanna come play me cool you don't wanna come play with me cool cool why what is good with playing with k d but it would have been with the clippers and katie was the one who is well i'd like to play together but i want it to be in new york and that was the sticky okay so most people agree that kevin had a heart said early on on a knicks you know being knicks right because and i just beaten to death on the set one more time the legacy move the obvious legacy move is to go save the knicks because most people don't get it but we've been around for a while and we've been around the knicks many many nights in we get the feeling of what it means in new york even though they haven't won since nineteen nineteen seventy three it's the biggest sleeping giant in all of sports and there's nothing close to the to the knicks in kevin legacy could pivoted on i just went in won a championship for the new york knicks now he needs a co star and i thought it was kyri but maybe i get it kyri did not do himself in boston ugly yeah no change it change the law and so did katie's injury not only just for everybody on the outside but for k d because everybody's saying well katie you you'll be okay on their website you'll you'll be close to the same in katie is asking for what if i'm not if he had not gotten injured they idea of going into new york and saving the day in turning around i believe that would have been viable and we'd be looking at a complete great shows to me from a distance kevin got tired of fighting he fought russell even though they loved each other off the floor but he fought him on the court for all those years in oklahoma city and then he said okay this isn't gonna work i'm gonna join forces with that team that that just came back from three one down to beat out i'm gonna go joined forces and maybe it'll work out because we share the ball we play beautiful basketball end they did in work but he didn't really click off the court with anybody he didn't become close friends with steph or obviously dream on and that bridge got new this year in nothing clicked in clay kind of win his own way and they they got along fine but they weren't close friends he one very close to be andre as well is kyri in all of a sudden this feels like a little bit of a sim my retirement move not that he doesn't want to win with the nets and but all of a sudden he said you know what i'm just tired of fighting tired of fighting dream on in in russell now i'm gonna go with kyri nd andre we have fun man is gonna i'm gonna show up every night in the locker room in it's gonna be a blast because were were we get along great right he loves he loves stuff and not playing with steph is still that that was the thing that was holding him back from do i still go back the golden state and ultimately everything that happened with injury and the idea of the from the beginning of last summer he was thinking i wanna go explore the next thing i i can't underscore score enough how the idea of going to new york and resurrecting the knicks was the plan going back to last summer great ending injury changed everything changed it in his mind changed for the knicks i mean it just had a rally he had some doubt about his ability to bounce back and be kevin i'm kevin durant who who he's going to be on the other side of this he's hoping for the best but by no means is he feeling confident but he's going to be the same player who feel calm would feel comforted by somebody that you care about right yeah i mean you're the guy ran out of sight out of mind shy you don't have to worry about it anymore shannon is gonna be i have a feeling it's gonna be insufferable yes i do to what i said why don't you know who would become the best player on the planet and we saw him if we saw him reemerge game five of them be falls and make his first three three and then it happened finals mvp bp yeah who has more finals mvp kevin random why who has more defensive player of the year kevin ran cohen who's without a player when god help me help me in nineteen kevin the rat and which one of these guys go the lakers huge hey he's got he's already and stuff happening open in city here be lebron letting bounce back no but nobody wanna play the regular season for the ages but you don't remember kevin durant's anything you know the the the the hullabaloo if nobody wants to play with toxicity now dog guy but they wanna give the kids with all that allow that's why that's why you've got posted that comeback season for the ages right he knew what was coming coming up he knew the number to call in what is your friend chris haines says why leonard is expected to ramp up the process in free agency in the next few days why is expected to meet with the raptors clippers and lakers now fritz ford at the rumblings of why the lakers are growing stronger if that's the case the clippers and how they missed out on all of the top free agent receiver still hanging with us this morning rick how much trouble they think the clippers are in if kwai decides to go elsewhere tremendous tremendous because the trajectory of their team and the way they were built and what their expectation was that they were going to be adding collide leonard to the mix that was their target from the beginning of the year end whereas the knicks pivoted and said you know what it's a bad bet let us look in another direction directions see what we can do is a plan b the clippers have been all in you know they are sticking by it so this is an all or none proposition right now when it comes to co why and so and i said on this show a at one point about why saying to me i don't wanna play with lebron i wanna compete against now some people interpret that as i won't play with ron or i don't wouldn't like the play with lebron it was simply he looked at him as appear i wanna play a i wanna compete against it with each one beat each other in the finals to things have changed 'cause he said that to me at the beginning of the year two things have changed on edition of anthony davis and to winning a championship where he was alone superstar and he's basically said of what i've been told is one okay lebron might have a year to but i could stay with the lakers an i could continue on with anthony davis and now it's my show in the second part is this is tough winning on my own by myself if i can go with somebody else and and get another ring willing to do that ring wait you you overlook see lebron could only have another year or two laps you're okay with that old another year to level of being the goal that we know a but he ain't going away anytime soon okay now where does don't you where he's gonna be a six man in three years right okay there you go look if the clippers will phone co why this would be worse than the knicks because they're thought of as being a better organization from topped by they are the next without of boy building but if you look at steve bomber you look at jerry west and you look at doug a doc rivers in that roster you like man they got they took two games on golden state last year we know superstar broth superstar in the mix with that organization they put all migrates they boy don't put all your eggs in one basket regarding the trip on your way to the market oh that's what the clippers beat me put all of their eggs the one basket and lo and behold they stumble the lakers who came into the basket all hey but they were those were proficient in the us now we make it oh man let me go work for her you right now tell you i'm gonna be you know you go how you are with the cowboys cowboys you better get all you do is my cowboys are coming girl told her how by the way did you speak why and be quiet if ain't going so good last night the broad eighty valley wanna play the ticket and you know what's gonna happen and they're all gonna get hurt they're all gonna get hired all three i think that's what's the reason they i don't i don't yeah you gotta history on my side all i know is i got already case becoming oh here we go with titles like thirty kt okay so you you what the curveball catalyst last night the biggest biggest shock in the night for me that made all this conversation possible made you come up out of your chair with jimmy butler landed in miami i didn't see that coming because it came out of nowhere signing frayed to miami for josh rich something like why because that cleared the decks for you to below to be because all of a sudden jimmy butler was the co star and i'm thinking okay okay so katie went to the net so all that talk about katie number two and clippers you know like okay okay but but it's gotta be now oh oh it's gotta be number two and jimmy butler with the clippers right now it's just obvious oh that makes sense a no it doesn't he wanted it his own team in miami yeah wants to be dwayne wade the second you know he and that's his idol and his mentor i'm gonna take over for dui there's also some of it is and this is this is always the danger when you make it clear this is the guy were going after oh we can't get this guy in you pivot to the next guy there's ego involved you're like oh you're gonna get him it was yeah now you're gonna come after me i can't i i have to imagine that was some of jimmy butler miami was on his original original list you guys were the clippers sure but miami was with the influence of dwayne wade had come down here in pr guy and so that over hey a we weren't able to get k d we weren't able to get some of these other guys and you come so we can get co why i think jimmy read right after that so laugh at me if you want but i'm gonna say this one more time if number two is if if he actually shares this space width doc rivers and jerry west and see bomber maybe this afternoon in somewhere in this these regions right here in southern california where they would meet but if the clippers get to make the presentation they had been preparing to make for one year maybe longer do do you know how much is gone into this moment for them hardly checking stocks fight away from vanderbilt university another band if you end up the finest writer a profile semi mb asian rollerball cleveland in and they hired him as the director of research and identity and it was because of the it's it's all presentation for this guy but they don't have a dual presentation furrow costar it's just pretty much the end they may be a little desperate they said let's go patrick beverley just make sure we got him for next year right three years forty million but you know what they can't prevent because of purple and gold they can hit resent lebron james guy or anthony davis or the lakers this is the one element here year that i find interesting is one anthony davis is said i'm gonna explore free agency mechanism an i would not be surprised if quite leonard signs short term one in one because it allows him than the sign age super max it's even bigger which is what you propose he do with wrong to right so it gives him be it gives the potential that yes everything looks like it's rolling the lakers way in this next season could be sure if he's like a man's of our the highway so ricky but it's not but if it's not they do have pieces that could say that this wasn't what i expected to be okay and so i don't know how long there's the potential if this season does not so right that this resurgence in shortlist hi i'm lauren you might go low hate it might go little wrong i have nothing to slow him down a little bit we find somebody what a game monday morning by the way made guided or the playoffs nothing we could do the first time in their history and we'll do so i'm not even the warriors or the shack kobe lakers could do fixated on sweepstakes in the playoffs and get my condolences it's not over yet so let's get this straight so number two in his team requested the first phone interview which the guy who quit on the lakers and then trash the current gm of the lakers in his name obviously is urban magic johnson so he went and talked him about what about the dirt about how bad they got one office operate eight hours out make it happen on magic johnson apple because i told you he was he he could serve the lakers better as magic johnson than ever could have urban johnson because guess what he don't give five but tamra you could pick up the phone and call anybody anybody who framed we homeboy or he's back and all his glory yeah as he's magic in as soon as he got the phone call key just leaked it like crazy i think our first show should be there we gotta have a thirty minute show starting minnesota nice season opener really yeah with old uncle why do they really haven't given come by say hello oh well so wanna play at a time because he other to be hurt the worst they'll just take turns i'll play ten games and then i get twenty twenty two so we've got a wreck bible mbh recco will be seventy six and not really do it a regular sixteen or the playoffs right i'm not a math but it's not gonna say it again i got me thinking twenty two regular sixty in twenty sixteen in the playoffs while total seventy six seventy six been pointing to that will be our rep okay seventy six i'm writing that i knew this is gonna be bad i know it's gonna be in we have thirty cases that on that we got you like would you like to put why more can we got we got thirty cases battled mbh title that we've okay i got under on this record's none of them know i don't care would recognize when we go with that i don't care whether titled and then i got to be yup okay not willing to say i morning i need been gay not about go whoa on f s one is your destination for the day that sports shows we all over the latest free agency gets it all day on at one time the pelicans have eighty or julius randle nectarines in both will actually be better they're signing jj redick to a two year deal adding their favor joined the team has done really well holiday spending ingram was that follow those shirt on hero back home it'd be you're gonna be you know whether it'll be very interesting they'll be part of the must see tv you're not making the playoffs now they are williamson is not taking a team at one thirty three games and then adding on another thing she just named like eight other guys secret all real lolo hurting brandon ingram or a real hot now jj rettig yep so look i think they're gonna be fun to watch and we have a great time reporting from who would be king has dumped the ball from the rafters yeah the the raptors but guess what skip bayless no playoffs for your team sergeant oh my team were wouldn't it be funny if the pelicans next year had a better record than the lakers even with number two i know i got a feeling i just gotta be like oh i like this lost her stomach you got this roster really shaped up 'cause you got a real gm in that chair right oh yeah i love love love big wedding room where he does and how do you realize the jj read it could have gone i dunno six eighteen and he said no that's gonna be the money on the table you open it but i think a lot of people here with the lakers would come around but we wait and also we got gay oh maybe he didn't want any part of layaway way you undergo words fun we got hot which new we got wildly always another two days wow when you breed that that my grand i will pick that thing for me you know you had derrick favors is he's gotta stop stop it pretty well he's the guy skip bayless he's got engaged euro league championship series is that nikola deleon designed for who borst who who would be in rebuilding bottle sky whereabout assigned him we got eighty and who still did you know eighty third all time npr number two in lebron james in the guy you i i gotta tell you thank you for bringing him up this this team next year will be better than any of these teams good trust me it will be it's just deeper in better team next year will be better than any other kind of these teams but he played for before okay he got me about that skip the thought oh you when you throw lonzo and be an josh heart into that mix because drew holiday is and always will go which one of those garbrandt guinea a where do i go gardo quiet now ennio eighty oh this this team could defend drew holiday conduct in lonzo so that that might be is as good a defensive back there is the least it'll be great but been defending banglore dale will be there that bronco we got to can you imagine what brought why go oh my goodness miss they'll have their hands full with his eye on 'cause he does not care is not afraid later shoe yup and they will shoot anybody over three feet we let the wrecking ball wrecking ball they're gonna say we can't deal with this eighty don't order everybody really small team i mean you got you got tremendous athlete gathering get up and down but they're small team is jill ohka for small guy i don't me out really yeah although it is he having all of y'all y'all pantyhose on jimmy oh well he's there he's a backup big man you know i'm looking i'm looking at a team like i think i'm gonna be the number one overall seed nancy no you know what i figured you know what if we do well we okay we're listening speaking of heightened shot blocking that jackson hayes kid i know he's just a baby but he will come along and he will block shots you make it hard to get to the bathroom which is going to you know you don't need a career to for to shop at night and then we got called clough how you get around he's already maybe on his right is that a done deal that you don't wanna be you don't want it to be done what is it about mccartan pry pelicans will make the playoffs next year and they will be the most fun team to watch in in east get your destiny i'm not talking about the the gorilla glue by talking about that that you know that he'll still be full i'm sorry i mean i i really feel bad i really feel bad for the spurs in toronto it up is meant to beat the lakers should have the best players in the lakers should be mb chips and that's what's going to happen jj redick said i wanna play in new orleans that's all you need to know who was instrumental in recruiting him drew holiday off hotlanta that the team a house that doesn't leader jay jay's a big fan you have their their radical what i thought you know what i read it was wondering when you want these you got starpower all down the roster you know what he's saying but honorary citizen in new orleans will appreciate you're winter them in your support and it's time for our final topic of the day campbell walker is leaving charlotte will sign up four year deal with the celtics this is another example why michael jordan is considered to be the goat as a player but his breakfast executive maybe not so great mj became involved with the team in six the charlotte franchise has not won a playoff series where is michael jordan franchise owner knows all too well i am his biggest fan as a player he is also turned into deep worst owner operator in all of sports and i don't think it's even glove out because degen's point he's now been hands on running this franchise for thirteen years they've made the playoffs three times and have not won a single playoff series and he just started over again he let him go jeremy lamb go he said okay well place kimball with terry rozier which is i don't know they seem really end you're starting over again i don't see any light at the end of the tunnel i i don't see where they're heading end i feel sorry for the people in charlotte give as much as i want to disagree with you i can't and you knew you were not going to be able to sign kimball to the max contracts why not trade him at the trade deadline and get something for for him that's what great gm's do they think ahead i can't resigned this guy you knew you were gonna be able to resign jeremy lamb trading get something for holding onto a book what if you make the playoffs and you go out in the first round you need assets it's michael jordan in unless they can get that ping pong ball would they get a lie on where they get anthony davis i don't know how this this team become anything other than what they already are which mired in mediocrity more worst without even meter rates

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 3) A Girl Dad!

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 3) A Girl Dad!

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I guess this is the way that it's supposed to work that when something terrible happens that eventually you start to remember all the good stuff and focused less on what happened focused less on The terrible terrible accident that took place on on Sunday morning Because we've it. It's been fun to talk about God. Kobe's final game to talk about all the wonderful things that he meant to a lot of different people. You heard Michael Wilpon right. That story about him Kobe coming back into the locker room after having a big night and kind of give him a hard time. Because you know you think a wellborn you think Jordan. They're they're they're linked forever Like your boy would have been able to do that. So it's perfectly Koby and it's such a great story. No it is in in as Mike. Wallace t ended up getting ready to tell the story. I kit already. I've already kind of knew that he was as he was saying. And I'm like yeah. He went to him and told him a bitchy Jordan couldn't do that. Because that's the way professional athletes we process if it's if it's your rival it's your you know that that guy is linked to him. You know it's just like I bet you he could do that. You know you Rosh in in in morale is always try and tease me about. T- Oh yeah I have to say well yeah. I didn't play with those quarterbacks. Six in idea when it you know so it's tongue in cheek type thing because that's what we do sure it's just a just a perfect storm though. It's quintessential Kobe Bryant. I it's quintessential Kobe Bryant the athlete and the more that we hear people talk in the more that we see videos and everything else you realize is that there were quintessential Kobe Bryant the father moments as well and the way that he approached his career as an athlete is the way that he approached fatherhood. Good this way. The approach really everything that he ever did his entire life with this incredible intensity and dedication to doing it as best as absolutely can and L. Dunkin who. I'm sure a lot of you know from sportscenter. ESPN told a story about the time that she met Kobe Bryant and it speaks to his enthusiasm for being a father and to being a a father two little girls. It's likely that you're hearing any personal anecdotes about Kobe Bryant. So here's my Kobe. One time backstage at an event for ESPN spion in New York. I saw him I thought. Oh my gosh. That's Kobe. I gotta get a picture for the Graham. That's the picture at get it for a few minutes. Because as I approached coached him he immediately commented on my rather large eight month pregnant belly. How are you how close are you? What are you having a girl I said? And then he high five me with the best. I asked him for advice on raising girls seeing as though he quite famously had three at the time and he said. Just be grateful that you've been given that gift because girls Are Amazing his third daughter. Bianca it was about a year and a half old at the time so I asked if he wanted more children and he said that his wife Vanessa really wanted to try again for a boy but was sort of jokingly concerned that it would be another girl and I was like four girls. Are you joking what would you think how would you feel and without hesitation. He said I would have five more girls if I could. I'M A girl dad. When it comes to sports he said that his oldest daughter was an accomplished volleyball player and that the youngest was a toddler so TVD Abd but that middle one he said that middle one was a monster? She's a beast. She's better than her age. She's got it that middle one of course was Zhijie when I reflect on this tragedy and that half an hour that I spent with code we brought two years ago. I suppose that the only small source of comfort for me is knowing that he died doing what he loved most a big that being a girl. Dad's that's L Duncan from. ESPN in that line on a girl. Dad Ad is awesome awesome. It absolutely is awesome. It goes back to the story. The He retold in terms of people coming to them saying you need a boy to keep your legacy going and you know like I got this. I'm good I'm good. I'm just GonNa keep going and that's what I meant earlier when I talked about the spotlight. And the way he's using his platform formed highlight the women's game. You know for a lot of spent fans who regardless of gender definitely guys. They feel like if you don't have a guy to carry your name and play in in your league that what you did in the sport it's GonNa fall away and coby didn't feel that way he felt the WNBA. If you respect it what those athletes put into their craft was was carrying on his legacy. The Mama mentality wasn't Abou- killing the NBA. The moment mentality was about maximizing where you are right doing the best you could in that moment. You know I'm an instant evaluative talent in not because this is Kobe Ryan's daughter but but I can just look at her form. The things that she was doing higher skill set is obviously thirteen. She's will continue to grow and get better at every single step faster quicker everything but you could tell she because she was going to call me a little bit of like. Oh yes she's straight. I'm not worried about that. The one that we saw a lot last night was the one where her kind of leaning into her dad with his with her shoulder right. It was like Aka a thirteen year old female version of him with and it was perfect. It was exactly what either just genetically was born board into her or he had drilled that move in her perfectly. Because you look at it like Oh yeah. That's what Kobe does. It was perfect. You know it'd be great that all the ex NBA players who have daughters like Kobe. Who are playing basketball a Kobe? Continue to push that forward. Not because you're pandering but because you're working with your child so you know more than anyone a hard she's worke to reach a certain level and so you shine light on that to shine light on the work ethic and dedication to the craft into the game. It'd be wonderful to see the other man you know Tracy's got a daughter traits. Graham speaking of I mean to see those athletes pour for into their child and watch them grow. He might go on the way we go. Oh that song so sign you go are there so and so's daughter and I think a lot of guys are doing it. That's why they're coaching. Ah You team. That's why the U C Kobe. You see Tracy McGrady. There's other guys with daughters and they're they're being a part in an active part of their sport and what they're doing because they believe in it. Well it you know. It's it's there was nothing about his enthusiasm for that that that rang hollow. No it was entirely authentic that his enthusiasm for her game the enthusiasm for the women's game. The enthusiasm awesome for the the Yukon program that the WNBA it just. It wasn't just. Oh Okay I have girls therefore all kind of pay attention to this because and now they're into it so I'll go along for the ride and whatever but I know where the real basketball is. It wasn't that at all you could tell he was very had developed a relationship chip Geno Auriemma. One of the great women's you always daughter to Long Beach State. Go to uconn clipper whatever. Trooper's version of women's basketball franchise Lee. She realized that. That's the program that yeah you don't have to be able to go. Hey Go play for the rich richer man. That's good. That's all take her and I'll take her and I'll take her thank you very much. We'll see in the watch the game they had the USA on the road. They they absolutely did all right. David phys Dell is GONNA join US next and we'll continue our conversation about Kobe. Bryant with coach David Fishtail. That's coming up on the morning show on seven ten. ESPN alright so we spent Yesterday kind of trying to figure out exactly what had happened in sort through a whole bunch of different emotions today is is a little bit different. We've spent a lot of time talking about some of our favorite memories and what he meant to all of us and what he meant to the city into the NBA and joining us right now to continue. The conversation is coach coach. David Hale who joins US right now coach. Good morning how are you today. Good Morning. I'm still really you know. They'll try to China. Wrap my mind around all of this stuff you know. Yeah I know it it Especially for somebody that is from southern California area grew up Fremont high school singing Kobe Bryant from grow up from a teenage student all the way up to hall of fame. NBA Player post careers. Well where were you added time fears that you heard about the tragedy. I was I was in our spot in. LA and It was just a very very more like a a a Toyota delay like that morning we woke up and my wife raise the blinds and And she does. A God is so cray outside today and for whatever reason I took a look outside and it was just like in the valley. It was like soup and I called my boy. You Know Todd my best friend at school but by the time man. I can't make lunch today. You know let's do it tomorrow. 'cause I was just you know you fill in a certain certain way. And then right after that Amina call from. Espn they'd have you say TMZ. And I said no and my wife was on on our social media and she said I hope this is not true cobras passed away and I started hitting the boys deed and all those guys dislike this. This is this is the true right. This is a true and as it started to fold man it just it started to become a real thing and I just start breaking down What was it about Kobe? The man that had so many of the other players gravitates toward him like you can understand. Why the player ear had their interest but why Kobe the person was so such a magnet? I think you know I think it was just such a respect level for his ability to not cheat anything you know he never we all we all in our own little way have our little shortcuts. human beings. But for whatever reason this guy was the embodiment of doing it the right way to heart way every single time and you got to see what that turned into every time you know and it was like that little piece of shortcut and all of a we admired that he. He didn't have that and I just think that it drew guys told them and I think people that people wanted to learn more from hill people wanted to gain that edge and gain gain that understanding of how to have that kind of discipline about you. Know if you're GonNa do something doing a hundred percent every single time and you know as he got older I think he started. It's a share that more with more guys and You know Kobe. Bryant's giving you a stamp or Sarah which is You can't beat that. David Steel joining the US here on keyshawn L Z and Travis and go. Why do you think Kobe was so much different than other guys when it came to his ability to leave the NBA to leave professional sports and enter into that second phase of his life because it seemed that he was as prepared as anybody? I've ever seen in any walk of life to go from one thing that they were extraordinary and spent their entire life preparing for and then just able to leave it in and move onto the next thing. 'cause he poured it all in you. Hello instead old saying let's leave it on the court. I mean if anybody left it on the court and it was him it was never. I don't think you ever had a day where he was like. Oh Man I should have done this I I I got one more I think about it. He scored sixty as lab game. If that's not leave it all out there you know. I don't know what it is and you know but then again you don't cheat the game and you know that you you really gave it everything you have I think it's a lot easier from that standpoint to be able to say I'm done you know watched. Obviously I'm close with the way and these really having that similar transition where you know. He's not looking back on that. I think I could do it one more time where I sit. I sit a state or he's already into his next venture as businesses and 'cause he does like his his body he he he. He sacrificed his body and and time with his family. And all of that stuff you know and he'd never let the team down that way. So those guys like like that that it's easier to step away from the game I I wouldn't notice off the top of my head. You would because you coached against Kobe Bryant but he ever gets you oh you did he ever hit you. We're win at the end of the game. Yeah did the one we We were here in La. We were just watching the highlights of the night Sitting around and and just pull it up Kobi highlights and he's stuggles one time where he got the ball at the top of the key against delay and delay was underneath underneath them. I'm in as good as deep as you could play. He Hits a bank shot. Three to beat us on the top of the key just broke our hearts and we looked I. We're laughing because he was like we. Beverly remember looking at each other and we both disrupt ourselves like that. Is Kobe now because I was watching. You know obviously obviously. I've been watching Kobe since he's seventeen. Eighteen year old kid but I was watching some highlights myself and I was just like saying you know how you sit back and you think about fifty like Tammy was ridiculous dog everybody. I mean everybody was a victim and the thing that people really don't remember it as if I'm watching this. How many people he don't don't like new? Forget that young. Kobe used to catch everybody slipping and it was like he was just an assassin. Man He just he he had that ice water man and there was like that was the thing it was like. We never thought we would see anything like mice again. Like you know what I mean like. There's only one bike and that's it and then took Mike and just like put it at this. It's a his laser focus and he's just rebate that with that same instinct you know that same swagger in his game the walk everything like it was like. We all tried to walk like bike. We all do had Ed ed. It was like that's what was just so amazing. And then he was ours. You know that was the other day. Like what Michael Kogyo. Kobe was ours. And so you you know kids I think about it. I you know I I look at my own life and and growing up here in. La Stuff from La. You move on to do some cool stuff you go up faster like you walk down the street people just they just so you love but it's the same for a guy if you from somewhere else and you all out for one of our teams S. love forever and it's like that that's the thing right now with what the city is going through is. Just it's heartbreaking. Because he was ours and that's why we looked at it when when you I remember him. Dunkin Oh Steve Nash. And playoff game Yeah he caught him caught him in the frame trying to catch a charge daughter. And when you when you look look at you look at the the Kobe twenty years and there's two numbers as eight in there's twenty four split them right down the middle which one was better to you. The aided aided twenty four because it was different I approached different yet. He's no that is a good question. It's a tough question because I feel like the eight eight was the force that eight was that raw young too vibrant force that just you know that just came at you. Relentlessly listen to over and over and over and I felt like the twenty four was the mature the chess playing man who like as attack Ah with fundamentals and understand that he knew how to tear you apart with wasting less energy like just evolution was crazy as a player player. And you know. Obviously that's through the work and the winning but you know he just really evolved and you got to watch it day in day out and acids athleticism drop a little bit or injury started to pick up on his body he started to figure it out. Different ways how to be two different ways and You know so oh I can't say for sure which one was better. They both the champions. They both dominated the league in their own ways But boy did. I enjoy watching involve a coach. You've had opportunity to be obviously assistant coach and Miami for years head coach and two franchises. If Your Doc rivers if you're Frank Vogel how do you get your team back to thinking about playing basketball through a tragedy like this. Aw Man you do. I'd say you know like it's just a really difficult but I. I was texting brand of the day and You know what I I said to him was there was more out of coachspeak. You know than than even the friendship. It was why 'cause he got to take the situation. He's in personally right now. Now you know you just pass this guy On all time scoring list which was like the greatest honor Lebron ever like Dallas has. That was his boy like they. You know he looked to Kobe and so for the next day for this to happen. This was really tough on Brian. And so my thing was he he literally. We had passed the torch he has you have to. You have to honor him with your play now and use the game as a celebration of him instead of it being something that you don't Salaya door because you're hurting you know and I think that's really how we all have to kind of look at the gang now is is you know these young guys step on the court now. It's a celebration of the Great Kobe Bryant. Because you don't know where you don't know how you know things are GonNa happen their life and you don't want to say that you didn't give it give. It's all really have fun while you're doing it and so you know that was my best is. Brian is just just. Celebrate them through your efforts and the way your plan and the way you treat your teammates and how how much you put into it You know and the way you interact with fans you know like you know you. You was a great football player and you know as fans could be annoying. You know you don't want to talk to a fan. You don't WanNa sign something just like you know what. Take the time to do that. Takes time to to sake. That person's hand handed lift up their day And sign that autograph or take that picture. Whatever it is because you just don't know what that means that that person and I was in the square those two days and ESPN man? And you know the outpouring of love of all of those paying all of those Kobe jerseys out there. Eight hundred twenty fours. It was unbelievable. Oh man and you know so you know. I think that that's the way we approach. This thing is through celebration. You know. Obviously the Greek is brutal. You know we we. We said in all of our love family. We got arms around them but I think the only way we we move forward is by celebrating coach. David Steel joining us here on the the morning show coach. Appreciate your time this morning. Thank you very much. That's you're annoying as a fan ills weird for you when he said that your finger finger immediately went him. Hey play for the Detroit. Lions played with Detroit. I I wouldn't be afraid of knowing that Stafford becky now. I'm telling you what was sitting around. No Ring No playoff games. Athletics let victory. You heard. Is there talk about texting with Lebron and what he was saying to him about carrying the torch. Lebron did Write something on Instagram. Yesterday about the the accident and about his feelings about that will read that for you coming up next on the morning show on seven ten. ESPN so I thought that David Physical said something something that was spot on that you know. When when they were communicating he was communicating with Laurent In light of the accident on Sunday Kinda on a speaking to him in coach. Speak like you need to be the guy to go do this that and the next thing and key win when we started the show on Monday morning you breath Kobe Brian. Obviously we're all Koby Bryant basketball fans but he was a friend of yours And I it just hit me when when Fiz said that that this Lebron the the water that he has to carry in this is extraordinary that this is a friend of his somebody that he's incredibly close to. This is something that he competed against. It's too you know relentlessly for years and years and years. This is a guy. That's the face of the League so whenever something happens in the League the first person and they're going to is Lebron James Bron. James is on the Los Angeles Lakers. So that's a whole. Now's the Kobe Kobe built and also and obviously this is something that will get to ultimately over the next couple of days in and I'm sure much more so in the next week or so. He's trying to win a championship. And all of these things landing on this one guy in this one moment. That's a lot man it is in its heavy. It's even heavier now. You know the pressure was on to to finish the deal. Oh because you brought here to finish the deal. The anticipation the animosity between the two camps. Not The fan camps meaning meaning that the King James Camp in Kobe Bryant camp so he had to come in dealing with that. Oh you better than him on. He's better than you. I dare you so he dealt with all elect so now at the end of the day you have all this fall on your shoulders and because of who you are you wanNA finish the deal and you want to deliver live you WanNa that message. That Lebron said he's GonNa carry that legacy he wants to do that in anything sharded at. It's not gonNa feel good to him so that that's just just that much more that much more and it's so crazy because you know I'm one of those dues a sit back. I'm like Oh yeah we get this chip You know because guys like Lebron when they say things you tend to believe. He's not just saying it. He's not saying it. Yeah he's just not saying he's going to finish the deal and but I believe that it's it's Kinda scripted that way right. It kinda feels that way. I don't Wanna get ahead of ourselves and trust me. There are plenty plenty of other teams. That why they love. Kobe want that chip to themselves. So it's not going to be a a hand me over. But if you look at the story from Gordon Hayward and you Mike Tirico was on I think the athletic podcast recently and he talked about that last game. That Gordon kind of step into the lane in order to make sure Kobe sixty so if you missed a free throw it could be a lane violation. Kobe gets another shot and a free throw in order to make sure you got to sixty everyone. Soon Might Rico's assessment of the what transpired was real Gordon's like no that. Actually he just reiterated. I did not step into the lane to help Kobe. Get to sixty Kobe. Got To sixty Gordon was trying to get in there to box him outside deal. So that's just let you know that even in that moment you know. We assume assume that they were going to get it to. Nobody's giving him. Nothing never kept saying everybody ought not playing defense. I said no they tire to write tired. He's he's tired but he's willing his way to get buckets to get the Lakers victory. It's one of those things that when a death occurs and your part of the family or the closest friends that it's your responsibility to sort out what's going on and get everybody organized and this is what we're going to do. We're going to do this on this day and we need people over here to do this and I need people over there to do that. And you know. This is Lebron's role in a lot of this. When it comes to just the Lakers and how this team is going to move forward and and then on top of that is all of the personal grief that comes along with losing a friend in mourning Somebody that is more than just appear in a contemporary but you can tell they had a real relationship in the this. This was his friend. This was his buddy. This was some of them sure that they shared like we talked about earlier. There are not ten people on Earth that can talk about what that feels like and those guys could talk about. I know what you're going through. I've been through a two. I know what it's like to have to deal with what you're dealing with today. Okay and to lose somebody like that has to be crushing it. It yeah and it is and and I think though from Lebron standpoint he knows was set stake in he understands it and he would do nothing more they wanNA bring a championship. Is this year to the Lakers. There's an end in honor of Kobe. Bryant there's no question about it no question about it when we come back. We will read Lebron on James Statement that he put up on instagram. Because I think it's It's great it's beautiful and it kind of encapsulates everything that we've been talking about with Lebron and everything then of course that we've been talking talking about with Kobe Bryant as well that Lebron James Instagram message to Kobe. That is coming up next on the morning show on seven ten. ESPN so we still have not heard Much much from the Lakers. They did issue a brief statement yesterday. Just telling everybody. Thank you for the condolences and that they're still going through the process of trying to figure out exactly what what they're going to do. Of course the game against the clippers that was originally scheduled for tonight has been postponed. That'll be rescheduled at a later date. So the next time that the Lakers are on the court will be Friday night at Staples Center against the Portland Trailblazers and we can only imagine that somebody or somebody's will say something before that game. Am and you'd have to think that Lebron is probably somebody that might say something at the game as well but he has put something up on instagram. He posted something yesterday evening. And here's what he wrote. I'm not ready but here I go man. I'm sitting here trying to write something for this post but every time I try begin crying again I'm just thinking about you niece g g and the Friendship Bond Brotherhood. We had. I literally just heard your voice Sunday morning before Philly to head back to L. A.. Didn't think for one bit bit in a million years. That would be the last conversation we'd have W T.F. I'm heartbroken and devastated my brother man. I love you big Bro. My heart goes out to Vanessa and the kids. I promise you continue your legacy man. You mean so much to all of us here especially LAKER nation. And it's my responsibility to put this stuff on my back and keep it going. Please give me the strength from the heavens above and watch over me. I got us here. Thanks so much more. Excuse me there's so much more I wanna I say but just can't right now because they can't get through it until we meet again my brother Mama for life G. G. for life and it's it's it's excellent. It's beautiful awful. It's heartwarming. It's sincere it's authentic and it. It was nice to hear from him that he's feeling the way that all of us are feeling and going I went through it in an unknown so many different levels like we just talked about and and because of the closeness that they had and they shared the some of the same common goals and some of the same things wings and been on. The Olympic teams competed against each other. And as we've noted already. He plays for the Lakers. He's here in the city. He's playing in the same stadium. He's in the same environment that it's even harder. And people expecting him to deliver deliver. He was expected to deliver prior to this tragedy. But imagine the stress level. That it has heightened. Now you know he's gotTa take the floor on on a Friday night. Yeah they get tonight off and get they get a couple more nights in in in in. I think there's a press conference with some sort of more when you so it gets a little bit of a A village to the media. So you're going to be asked certain questioned in now. You gotTA process that and go through that before you get to Friday against Portland but all of those sort a lot of things just to try to get to that point of some sort of normalcy in your life at that point in time net you gonNA struggle with it until such time you know you you gotta think to that out of all the games this this is the one game in which the media will be somewhat of a partner in this sort of transition right you athletes and understandably so talked somewhat guarded have some have an adversary relationship with the media for a variety of reasons. But you gotta think with this particular story and this particular game a won't be like that. It's unfortunate I've seen. I'm not gonNA give any names. But unfortunately I've already seen some personalities turn this and to some sort of continuous conversation again. Because they have to make it about them but I think professional and sensible people realize who oh he was where the world is his moment and won't be so selfish to try and turn this thing. It's something that is not Kendrick Perkins who we talked about was the last week maybe a couple of weeks ago. A couple of weeks That of course you know NBA Player for longtime teammates with Kevin Durant and and he and Kevin Durant started trading insults on on twitter and Kendrick Perkins said something. I thought it was really really interesting and again sincere and beautiful he. He wrote the following a wanted to Do this publicly. Because that's how the beef was. It was public so I wanted to show the world world that hey I can be a man and apologize. I want my brother back for the millions of great memories that Kevin Durant Nice shared the one incident. I don't WanNa go out like that That was from the heart Kobe. His death did affect me in that way and I did hear Joe J.. We'll speak those words. It did make me want to heal all wounds with whoever. Whoever I was speaking beefing with in life that I love dearly I wanted to put it out there because I also wanted everybody else in the world to see and go grab a loved one or call and text a loved one that they've been beefing being with whether it's a family member or friend just squashed that beef because people say tomorrow's not promised but the next sixty seconds are not promised so you don't WanNa live with those regrets and I know something happened to Kevin Durant? I would be crushed at. Give me my flowers while I'm alive. this is sort of metality. Now it's it's such a you in a bittersweet reminder. You know that not only for your own life that you want to maximize every single day but remember the things that really don't matter that for whatever reasons is you've allowed to kind of allow separations between your brother. Your colleague your friends your loved ones your family look back and go. Is it really that important you know. It probably isn't give them flowers while they levin they can enjoy them and I think he's in infamy kindercare standpoint and Kevin Durant both sides. You get let the emotional side of things getting away and before you know it guy has gone in. You didn't have an opportunity to amend the situation waist to make good on it like Elsie has given the flowers while they lie. I mean you you know you. You certainly As a teammate. There's somebody you've been knowing for a very long time that you share so many great memories togethers runs have been down court or whatever the case may be and then all of a sudden you have some sort of disagreement agreement and it turns into you know. Sour Grapes tragedies a lot of times do bring people families they bring him back together freeze and Kevin Durant in in Kendrick Perkins or like family. You know who did this Kobe. Think about it which Shelley Smith on yesterday and she told us the story about when she was covering the sexual assault allegations in Colorado. Kobe was was upset with coverage coverage. Didn't like it and he said I'm never talking to you ever again. They had a relationship up until this point he didn't like it and they went better part twelve years without speaking to each other. Shelly Shelly gets sick. Shall we get cancer. and Kobe sees her At an event and goes over and gives her a hug and says. Let's let's get rid of this. Let's let's is. Let's let's squash it that he did what he said. He didn't wait until a you know somebody was gone to say you know what I wish I would have done it differently. What you just said he he lived it you know and and that's one of the things about Kobe? That's I think so inspirational now. Never mind the dogs in the three pointers in the eighty. One point. I mean that's just stuff the rest of us can't do we just not in our skill set but to be able to say you know what I'm GonNa put my pride aside. I'm GonNa put my feelings aside because I'm embarrassed embarrassed or I'm hurt or I'm angry and say you know I'm not GonNa do that anymore. That's really difficult to do. But it's something that we all can do and he. He didn't just say he did. Yeah that is that is true. But I won't speak for yourself on eighty points into dunks because I can do. That's simply not ah in my bedroom is a genial. We'll take some of your phone calls as well. I know that it helps everybody to talk about it and our favorite memories of Kobe and some of the things that we all remember Knbr. Your phone calls coming up. Eight seven seven seven ten E._S._P._N.. That's next on the morning show on seven ten E._S._p._N..

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Steel City Beat-Down

"Yeah. Like, I'm foreign Heiser. Are you paying? Money exchange hand because I would point out to you that we have to Emmys sitting up here do that without me with two on the table. One is to Mr Michael wilbon on Mr Tony Kornheiser, and the other one is to Mr Michael, wilbon amnesty? Tony corners named Frank solo. I I haven't seen have a New York's for sending. Okay, that's great. That's you know, what bring it down next time. I was gonna say we'll put it on a highchair wanna PR, boys and girls and today's episode. The warriors take a hit Dez Bryant may be out an Alabama is a twenty eight and a half point underdog against the Buffalo Bills. But we begin today with Pittsburgh's thunder is fifty two to twenty one victory over Carolina last night in which the Steelers had seven different players scored. Touchdown and got two touchdowns span of twenty four seconds twice. That's right after the game Steelers. Coach Mike Tomlin said, quote, we're probably not that good, unquote. Frank to great was he at the game. The to me that's like a bit of a rope adult for Mike Tomlin. He knows it right now. His team has just as good as New England and Kansas City, even though they did lose the Kansas City at home. They have the dynamic offense. But this all about the defense the steel curtain member those days when five game winning streak they've held their opponent to twenty one or fewer points. So the winning right now to me there deepens is terrific. And how about the performance of Ben Rothlisberger office burger was great. This is. This is the second time this week that I watched something on television that I thought was amazing that maybe I had never seen before the first was due Kentucky. Yeah. And I would say again about Duke and Kentucky Kentucky scored eighty four and lost by thirty four. And this was Kentucky. Okay. And this last night if you take away the book and touchdowns, which of the first and the last touch Carolina got both. Pittsburgh went fifty two two seven right in the middle of the game. Fifty. I I don't know that I've seen because Carolina could be a playoff team. Yes. And I think the analogy you're making about New England is absolutely correct. New England started at one and two. And now, I believe is seven two and Pittsburgh start at one two in one. And is now six two so Pittsburgh just doing it a week behind the England. And I also think to to me the game really change. Right. So Caroline first possession. They score. They must be thrown. Everything is great. Yeah. We're gonna have a good night. First play from scrimmage, Pittsburgh scores. And then Carolina gets what is Cam Newton. Do Kenyan has had a very good. You eat the ball there. I understand your. Fix. Don't take the safety. Yeah. That's like something rookie does. It was. I mean, Pittsburgh looked so get rothlisburger had five touchdowns and three incompletions that cannot happen. You cannot have more touchdown passes that incomplete and there's a good chance. They might get leave him bell back. Do you like that? I don't see why they have to have him. Now. I don't know what he does for them at the moment. Out with concussion protocol. But they they got ten days the next game. So he could be back that's dynamic offensive team. And I got a good deal. All right. The Golden State Warriors lost Stephan. Curry to a groin injury on the on the night that they lost their edge defensively. Milwaukee Bucks behind Yonathan compo- scored one hundred thirty four points on Thursday. That's Tony's favorite player. Yeah. That's the most the warriors have allowed in a home game under Steve Kerr on Friday curse said that curry who has a history of injuries as everyone knows will miss at least one game. Now steps been playing an envy p level. So Tony what's the biggest story here? Steps injury or the bucks. Impressive. Well in the greater scheme of things. It's carries injury. If it keeps them out for a prolonged period of time. If it is recurrent, if it is something that dogs him all year long because of how good he is in the fact that Draymond green has been out recently. And that is story. But I also know what I said on this show and yesterday I sat here, and I was very dismissive of Milwaukee's chances to beat golden. I said at best I would give them a twenty percent chance. So I was loud wrong on that. And I think I have that. Right. A front. Yeah. Couple of things might Boone hose, or every we know that LeBron was the best free agent signing you could make the case that Mike Boone Holzer might be the second best free. And he's done an incredible job that team scores. Their second the league hundred twenty one points per game. Now Steph curry last season. Here's the thing about the injury. And they play Houston on Thursday who even knows if it'd be back within a week only played fifty one games last season. Kevin durant? Played sixty eight games. And they still won the they had trouble with Houston the Western Conference finals. But for the most part they cruised lead in the playoffs. They played all games. Yes. Because if they are healthy are the best team in basketball. So what you do. Now as you look around you try to look through the east to see who might come up, and who might challenge them on some level, Milwaukee which was not a team that I think most of us put in there before the season started. Now looks like it might be one of those teams you said that they're scoring second in the league they were fifteenth last year and boot and hold. He's got the same team. That was a seventh place team last year, and they are playing that will now Janas playing like an MVP. But I'll give you this. Eric Bledsoe, Malcolm, brogden outscore Klay Thompson, Steph curry forty six to thirty four. But you would not take action on the fact that that would happen on a regular basis in a seven game sense. There's no chance we move now to the continuing saga of the rehabilitating horn Kristaps Porzingis when last we left him his coach, David phys, Dale was saying porzingas was into the light running phase of rehab, but not sprinting yet in response porzingas took to Instagram and posted pictures of himself appearing to be sprinting Frank this team is your account. What do you read into these sprinting pitch accusing him of posing? Or is he sprinting? Well, I'm saying that it's just a still shot. You don't he could be could be good pose? Yeah. This is what this is the Knicks relationship with presume his never been great go back a few years ago when. He blew up the exit meeting with Phil Jackson. And I like presents. You got when your boss tells you show up for a meeting you gotta show up. Right. So David fizzed ill says that he's only doing light running. And I think this is Krista present he's worried about his image and say, well, hang on a second. We going to put that out there. It's going to be people think like I'm not doing everything I can get back. This is what I love David physio. He said what it's done. It's gives off the perception this the reason why has posted those photos if the perception is not working he took it personally. It got to him that people would think that David your the one that said, it seems to be in response to you not to so call people. Yeah. I mean, why do I get the sense that Phil is a two year coach? And why do I get the sense that it can be overwhelming and York as we've seen recently, I would love to fall in love with Porzingis. But every time I tune in their games. He's not play over the three years of his career. He is progressively gone down in games. Played played forty eight last year, he has not posted this year. So there's a vanishing aspect to him that almost makes him legends. If he never plays again. But I mean, you you you're there with that team. How good how good when he's out there? He's good. He was an all star. And you bring up great point about the game's not play. He's already missed seventy two games his career ten more. That's you Queant of a full season. He's gonna miss a lot of games more games. Yeah. But remember this too. It's like the Knicks when rush to get him back because what are the next thinking about they have their own first round pick. They have cap space now. So maybe I'll give you a little New York's or how about Zion Williamson, Kevin everybody's everybody wants to think about that. But at the moment terrible at the moment, there tarot problem is there other teams are actually worse, which is an issue might not get that one two or three pick. All right Rams, cornerback Marcus Peters wants another shot at the New Orleans Saints because he has a score to settle which saints coach on Peyton Peter's isn't happy that Payton said the saints got the matchup. They wanted when drew Brees the seventy-two your touchdown pass to Michael Thomas on Thursday Peters had this to say about Peyton Peyton keep talking. We don't seem soon. Mm enough because I like what he was saying on the sidelines to tell you keep talking, and I hope you see. And then we have a good little nice little bowl of Gumbo together. Very lovely, just lovely. All right. Okay. Tony was Payton or Peters out of line. And who do you take if they meet in the plants can we run that back again where Michael Thomas has about twenty five yards a separation Payton said we like the matchup. He should like the matchup. All right at the moment. Michael Thomas is great this season. And Peters is a stooge. This season. Pro football focus ranks Peters one hundred fifteenth out of one hundred twenty Cornerbacks season. So who's behind him Mel blunt, Cousy seventy okay that's who's behind him right now. Now, he's doing exactly what he should do. He's being chessy. He's being arrogant, but the difference between him and Sean Payton is that Peter's has to go on the field form, Sean Payton have too. I was surprised he said it 'cause you want to if you like the match up you don't want to let anybody oh you like the match up. But it's it's on Peter's. It's not on pile-up. The Mel punt reference how good of a player with rape plan. A and a tough guy. If you're Marcus Peters. Why are you allowing the coach of the other team to get into your head? You have other things to worry about in especially trying to guard receivers and defend them and not allow them to get seventy two your touchdown pass. He's losing the mind games here when he comes out he's that angry about how bad to see look. Well, you're showing pain you're thinking, I got him. He's been he's been awful this year at the moment. I mean, that's that's undeniable Thomas Thomas has been great. The Billy being joys the Gumbo now, the cameras legal. You can get action on just about anything even hypothetical games. West gate a sportsbook in Las Vegas has the Buffalo Bills as a hypothetical twenty eight and a half point favorite over Alabama. Yes. That Alabama the college team tranquil team. Would you take? Of course, I'm gonna take buffalo. Remember did go on the road, and they did beat Minnesota. I want you know, you like to travel now I want you to go up to buffalo and go in the locker and find the biggest players in there. And you. S than that about being, you know, how would you do against Alabama? I would love to see the reaction the players give I don't think that the worst professional team. Even the Cleveland Browns of two years would lose to the best college team ever. I don't think that I think normally this would be a forty point game. I would point out two things. Buffalo has not scored even twenty eight this year. So there are twenty eight and a half point favorites. They haven't even they can't cover with anything they've done so far. And if they went about forty or get about forty five points, which I think is is reasonable. If two gets lucky if he throws to touchdown would do that. If he because in Alabama ten to twelve guys here go right into the NFL. You're not playing against that's fifty three guys. I understand. So I'm saying the number becomes enticing at that point the twenty eight and a half a number of years back. It was can Kentucky beat Philadelphia. Seventy sixers. No, no. And biggest come out saying that the Cavs would be twenty two point favorite overdue p- if. Here's the interesting thing if I'm buffalo I want to if on the Cleveland Cavaliers? So I might get together. This could work the guys out a little bit. Let's take a break coming up. Does the injury to Ian book Notre Dame imperil against Florida state was gonna ask David Pollick? We'll also ask him whether Alabama run into any trouble against number sixteen Mississippi State, I'll give you my answer. No. I don't think they will. And I don't think that buffalo could lose at all ever how college the warriors doing? By WalMart late up Christmas at WalMart. We're on the brink of another big college football weekend. So it's a perfect time to bring her good friend from college game day, Mr David Pollack in Boston rock and the the coat because it's in the thirties there. A tough guy. A tough guy would be out there in shirtsleeves, but not folic anymore star. Notre Dame will be without Ian book at quarterback. How do you expect that to affect the Irish against Florida state? Well, how ironic is it or not ironic, but you know, we're saying this week is funny in book is is out this week Brennan wish when Bush is playing, but it's okay. Because they're playing Florida state. What world is that normal? He these be back next week Tony for Syracuse. We need it for what? Oh, that's this strange to think about ballistic Brandon wimbush started game winning. It's michigan. He beat the wolverines in listen. He's a different quarterback. He runs he can run. Like, a tailback think you'll see a lot more quarterback design runs less. Throwing Notre Dame. Still has a great defense. I feel very confident and Notre Dame winning. But obviously, I don't think the offense will be a sexy has been with the book a quarterback. I know you're a tough guy. David. I I've seen you played before. All right number sixteen. Mississippi State their defensive game plan against to an Alabama is not the let the ball go over their heads. So do you think the BULLDOGS defense has any chance against Alabama Zaw s? Though, I don't think they're great. And you wanna talk about a great front four. They got it. They got depth on defense. They rotate through a bunch of guys. And we go down the list of how good they are. But the bottom line is Alabama's offense is a pick your poison deal. And you saw last week. They ran the ball really effectively Damian Harris, by the way, finally got over twelve touches in a ballgame because it was necessary and Alabama's gonna make you pick your poison. I'm not worried about their run defense worried about their pass defense to continues to pass on time in rhythm says a chick job with his is manipulating him. So I think Mississippi State will slow them down. The better question is Mississippi state's offense you talk about a one dimensional offense. They can't throw the football. They're not gonna lineup pound Alabama. So they get some passing game themselves that they wanna win the ballgame. You're in Boston for number two, Clemson and number seventeen Boston College. This is a pet. Peeve of mine. I guess we talked so much about Alabama Clemson has gone. Essentially unnoticed. They put seventy seven points of. And it didn't matter because everybody talks about Alabama PC is ranked B C. I guess pretty good. What chance do you give BC of upsetting a Clemson team? That may be great. Well, how about Daboh a couple of weeks ago that wanted to help this argument, Tony and help us what you just said help the rest of us. He said on her ranking show is pretty much Alabama and ARA wa the rest of y'all because everybody talks about talks about Alabama. I think it's clear separation with Alabama and everybody else clients in this debate, not just this your guys they've put Alabama the last three years they'd beat Alabama the national championship game two years ago. I mean, they've had great barn burners with Alabama. They're used to their custody at listen. Here's the one advantage for for B, Boston College. They're not better than Clinton. They just have to better than Clemson tomorrow night. Right now is thirty seven degrees. The wind's blown really heavy that affects teams from the south. Trust me. I played in the south. When I went to Cincinnati Bengals. I was like oh my God. What is so if it can be cold if if it could be a little bit rainy something like that to take away the passing dimension of Clemson that's been so explosive the last four weeks it even the Plainfield. But there's not a great shot. But they need mother nature to help them out. If they want to win this game. All right. David Georgia at number five just outside the playoff. They're gonna host number twenty four ala. Bama the two teams split their game off his lover Auburn, Arman, a twenty four over. How do you see this one playing out on Saturday Georgia looking to play themselves in, but they gotta be over. Georgia's starting to look like Georgia last year. Now, they're running the ball. No matter who it is. They don't care they're being more physical relying less on the on the passing game. And I think it serving them well defensively a lot of new faces and they're starting to play twenty guys along that defense rotating in another starting to come into their own. I really really trust Georgia in this spot at home. If you've watched auburn's offense you've seen it's bad. I mean, it is it's the worst Auburn offense can remember in a long time. And that saying something because they've been a couple of the past. You know, if you go back years and years that had been pretty bad. I mean, they they can't fill the football. Really? Well, they don't run really. Well, there no huddles not what it used to be. So I trust Georgia in this spot. And then we get down the road, by the way to the most fun thing that could happen that I want to happen in college football. I want Georgia to Alabama on championship weekend. And now we got a complete mess on our hands undefeated Clemson undefeated Notre Dame one loss. Michigan one loss. No, allah. Obama one loss Georgia. Let's get weird. What a ringing endorsement for that Auburn offense. I'm not very happy about that. We'll get outta here on something hypothetical. West gate has the Buffalo Bills of the NFL twenty eight and a half point hypothetical favored over Alabama, not on the NFL Alabama of college. Do you agree with that? I'd take the points. Seen. I've seen enough of buffalo. Listen, I know that this in no world can college team beat the beat the NFL because I remember being in college. Tony you played a couple of guys that were pros that they really had their technique Dowd. And you like, wow, I got to do something a little different now when you get the pros, everybody's at that level already to that point. So it's they could not beat them. But God can we do this after the season? Can we set up a game where we pay these players Alabama versus the bills after Alabama's championship run in? They're done versus the Buffalo Bills because they won't even be in the playoffs. And then let them play gave that would be awesome to see. Thank you so much, David. It's always a pleasure. Thank you. Persida guys ice David college game day from Boston. College begins tomorrow at nine AM eastern on ESPN. Let's take one last break, but still to come another tough night. Boy, Carmelo and the rocket always picking on crumble balance, potentially devastating injury news for Dez Bryant and the saints. You know, they they did pretty well without this Brian. I mean, they need a not that. I don't think they need them. But there's there's some karma about trying to acquire a little bit too much. He wanted to play against Dallas. People eighty third birthday Bob gifts. Simply one of the greatest pictures of all time give someone twenty more games five times. But in nineteen sixty eight he was twenty two nine with an unbelievable rate of one point one two. How could he have lost nine games? Could you imagine if Gibson and Colfax have been on the same team and on one day you had to face the right handed Gibson and on the next day, the left-handed Colfax all of your everyday players would have called in sick. What do you think he thought about Dave Roberts taking rich hill out of a World Series game with a one hitter and a one nothing not thrill? Not much will be correct answers gives me happy anniversary, Dr J and Larry Bird on this. They thirty four years ago the two legends brawl during a game the backstory's that young bird was in the process of outscoring Julius Erving forty two to six on one trip down the court Burt allegedly said forty two six doc, forty two six I cover Julius Erving more than forty years ago. I can't imagine being outscored forty two six in the same way. I can't imagine Larry Bird. Being outscored twenty two six Julius bird and Rick Barry with the most electrifying forwards. I ever saw tell you what the pretty good. I like New York net players Rick, Barry, Dr by the way, neither Dr J or Larry Bird were suspended for that fight today. That'd be five games. Yes. These rails this Bryant the newly acquired wide receiver was helped off the field today with an apparent ankle injury. The NFL network was the first report that the saints fear. It is torn achilles tendon. Wow. Brian signed a one year deal with the saints on Wednesday practice for the first time Thursday and then suffered this injury today. No matter how you feel about him. I mean, come on. That's good for that to happen. He was looking forward. All remember, Andrew bogut, sign with Cleveland. Fifty eight seconds into his debut on Roka's like out might. Let's go to the big finish. Quickly. Buster always says the cubs are open trading. Former MVP Kris Bryant surprise. You know, THEO up seen says, nobody's untouchable. Not trading. Chris brian. I don't buy at college football tonight. Louisville and number thirteen Syracuse you smelling upset no. Trap game. Because Syracuse is looking forward to Notre Dame Louisville's given up a hundred thirty three points in the last two games. Boy, Carmelo just two points in his return to okay, see last night defend the only score eighty points. He's not the star of the team, by the way, the only points that he got even go in the Basco goal. Ten gold. Oto Beckham junior says his goal for the second half of the season is to win eight straight and make the files is that. Doable. Trying to do it one at a time. Try to beat the Niners. He's going at eagles. Good very tough. It's a radically Duma practically wouldn't they last won. Gordon? Hayward makes his return to Utah tonight. Is he going to do I think he's going to remember he wrote the the players Tribune hidden? Thank anybody a new tack. Missy. We're out of time trying to better the next time. And I'm Tony Kornheiser. 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Hour 1: The Knicks Ruined Everything

The Stephen A. Smith Show

38:44 min | 2 years ago

Hour 1: The Knicks Ruined Everything

"Slam jammed up maybe it did what do you do one warming up the game all the games i watch people when i can't get through this spring the stadium atmosphere where everyone watching parole for those who come on fix save it for the air we've got a game at checkout vivid seats it's the easiest way to get all the tickets to the games you want to go to stephen a smith show podcast is brought to you by the capital one saver card earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent at grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases now when you go out you cash in what's in your wallet terms apply this is this even a smith show podcast stephen cut the damn music good afternoon everybody welcome to the latest edition of the stephen a smith show coming at you as i love to do every weekday over the national average vsbn radio and espn news number to call up as always triple eight say espn it's inundate seven to nine three seven seven six this is the stephen a smith show coming at you two hundred fifty plus markets across the united states of america chicken am fm lifting never joop plus he is being radio coming at you want sirius xm channel eighty plus e s b radio coming at you live over the national television waves of e s p n news time for straight talk brought to you by straight talk wireless best phones best networks no contracts i'm gonna try keep michael will try to put in perspective kinda davis is gonna try to put in perspective the fact that there are silver linings lying everywhere even when we don't see it after all the new york knicks are not worst team than they were yesterday after all the new york knicks did not hamstring their future they did it negate exercising prudent seat after all the new york knicks won this particular day one could argue that you know what they could end up being very interesting but that's not where my mind is right now that we're my heart is right because as i sit here and are contemplate the circumstances surrounding the new york knicks what they have lost out on why they have lost out in what it means for the future of this franchise i'm sick to my stomach i would tell you j c i would tell you jonathan and that i'd love to throw up to get this by a lot of my system but the fact of the matter is already have already thrown up already cried i'm serious i'm not joking i have both cried and i have thrown up hey guess what the bio talks the toxic stuff inside of my buddy understand that steve mills in in in scott perry in david phys dale know what they're doing i understand they have a vision forgive me if i don't give a damn about that right now there's a guy that just walked into this room where i do radio this guy supposed to be my breath rebirth i love this man it's a rebirth it's a new day ladies and gentlemen it's a new beginning here at echo in this room you hear a voice in his rule he is a former player of the year in college basketball one of the great college basketball players i've ever seen all american player of the year national champion being my colleague here my brother jay williams but on this particular moment in time he is the modern brennan donald he put me jay more of these folks here now i love jay williams these phenomena but on this day yeah you people because you wanna ringleader you're tired when they brooklyn they love you got season tickets season has a hell of a player to happen i just that's pure oh how could i just you know julius randle bobby portis oh mont reggie bullock oh my this is rebuilding this is the way it should have been a long time ago you sell it ain't no i'm not saying it's the right i'm not saying it's the great move that everybody expected all i'm saying is that the steps about the personalities and the mentality that you have with these pieces that you're bringing all now even though you're paying people a little bit high home prices i like it though to a certain it's really you're gonna say hey brother how long we've been talking about this i know you've been hearing rumors and speculation but the knitting any we we kind of knew that the knicks really working land one of the big free agent targets it's talked about a week how you and i've been talking about for months and i know that sometimes you as a fan is it's challenging conditions you're squad and i respect that i love that about you because i think a lot of people can't own that they have some squads but this is the right kind of report this bills through the process three years ago then that's or nothing more nothing three years ago but clearly ashley say maybe females is on the right track here since you know i have a problem with what you're saying why because i didn't come out and say that the knicks one better today than they were yesterday i ended up being discredit the new york knicks exercise including see what i said was two things and i'm gonna say it right now for this audience first of all the marquee madison square garden in new york city city the knicks brand lost out to a franchise around the top five years ago this is this is bad man seems doing oh okay i'll tell you something you don't really listen to it anyway is fair james dolan resumes own when he talks when he says something you really listen to it now okay now so he's expectations high where'd you get that from that's who he is he getting he just he just got a minute only cares about his plane is good job what is joke of a bad they're still gonna go on michael kay show on ninety eight point seven fm in new york city and talking about you know what i think we're gonna have a great great he just decided to do that out of out of thin air really is that what you're saying all i'm saying is that there are repeated habits that are not conducive to winning a championship and that's all i've seen from jim though now scott perry's steve mills different store different story actually i think i heard you today a multiple shows talking about that's an indictment on a franchise but i will say this and we talked about this there aren't a lot of franchises out there that three african american guys were trying to tap into the new free agency market i give them credit for that i a lot of credit for that will skews me somebody cutting those checks when i mean that would be james dolan and so if you think i'm not happy to see three brothers in that position of course i am but did they get an enemy you know they did not ask you this and i bet that it's bad all that's where i'm coming from damon 'cause you know this is what i'm trying to sniff it may not be coming to your franchise jay williams is one of the franchise that he wants me as a marquee free agent how much you you you you know the answer this question am i gonna give you a visit before i make my decision one thousand percent thank you very much so what am i supposed to say when we don't even get a minute but you were gonna say this because there's only one direction now it's going well we're gonna clean house it wouldn't surprise me that's the only way you can go wouldn't surprise me but let me just go clean out the only got go to oh yeah i mean but have you don't clean house don't go that that that's that's the house on talking about cleaning house i'm talking about clean i'm talking about clean house below the house which were steve mills scott perry i'm talking about clean the house above that one i gotta go see this gives me motion outfielder as came in saint louis and gives you support the other day when they're very very emotional down no you love me but on this particular subject no no no you don't make you gotta be right next to me next year and the year after that year after that right across the east river were here on my head and leave him leave town on my i believe i i just don't know how much was it is i could take place later out in a bad mood they will just made it worse when he just made it worse because he knows what's going on he knows what's going on here better the most absolute travesty break this down right now let me make sure that everybody understands exactly what i'm trying to say about the new york knicks disgraceful apathetic al mora but things are i am not saying that julius randle is a bad sonic i am not saying that bobby portis it's a bad signing i'm not saying that the new york knicks are offering gauging improved and seeing what have you that is not what i'm saying no i'm saying the worst team today they say because that's not what i'm saying what i'm saying ladies and gentlemen is the same franchise hasn't had a championship since nineteen seventy three the same franchise that hasn't been there hasn't been to a conference finals since nineteen ninety not the same the same franchise just one just one playoff series series in twenty years the same franchise that has been in the headlines for the wrong reasons was still the new york knicks in new york city madison square garden they're worth about five billion dollars they lost more key superstars to a team in brooklyn new york that just gotten here about five six years ago that just got here in five sixty eight in pharmacy chains the brooklyn nets pulled off what the knicks haven't been able to pull off the last fifty years that's where i'm going with this horrible well yeah i won't say over the last few months we saw charles barkley charles oakley i'm sorry physically removed from madison square garden we saw video of james dolan banning of fans from the garden because the fan asked him the sell the team we've seen the n b h find the knicks fifteen thousand dollars but exile link or reporter for the new york daily news from a press conference only for the new york mix the follow up it's still banned the newspaper again that's what we're seeing we're seeing pettiness were seen petulant were seeing a media policy that everybody continuously he adds it just dismiss it like it's no fat yes if you're a marquee name may apply s n now we've got the barclay center looking like it's madison square garden lonzo tribute to play dennis smith junior you could play a little bit kevin knox has potential rj barrett past potential mitchell robinson has potential but on a day that you lose out the k d n kyri nobody wants to hear a damn word about julius randall could wait twenty four hours you're gonna reach a deal that nobody wants to hear about bobby portis on the day that you lost out on k d in kyri you don't know nobody nobody wants to see reports that the new york knicks worrying going aside k d to the max because they were worried about his medical situation you wanna hear that on the day that kadian kyri sour brooklyn do you have any idea how that made the new york knicks look no fan of them there were paul wasn't accurate we ramona shelburne constant what was reported the nixon owner james dolan were not prepared over kevin ran a phone max contract do the concerns over his recovery very friendly achilles injury league sources tell oh whoa age emotion arouse ski this is something i went on the air reported over a week ago new york they wanna see that medical report they want a bit apprehensive so my point is on a day that k d's says no to you doesn't even graduate face to face interview and on the data kyrie irving essentially does the same that's not something you wanna see it reeks of pettiness and bitterness and whether it's true that the new york knicks did that or not because they categorically deny that that's what they said to anybody the fact of the matter is a report like that at that particular moment in time makes you lose patty makes you look bad it just does you got a void these kind of headlines and it's jay williams dated somebody has to go there so i'm going to the league is eighty percent african american ladies and gentlemen and i'm here to tell you something right now steve mills is an incredibly intelligent man without question scott berry can't say enough about him and the reputation of he has to adam gays circus highly respect we all saw david phys dale coach this team the memphis grizzlies rather to the post season a couple of years ago in memphis for losing that san antonio you got three african americans in these positions amber forties brothers make a decision they don't even grandchildren interview it looks bad eight chance looks right now is that because of them is it because dolan is it because of the messed the new york knicks have been for decades and the residue of at all which just to watch those three brothers overcome maybe but if you david phys dale and i hope you're somewhere listening this this this is why i was talking about mark jackson as a coach i don't know mark jackson is david phys david phys there's a damn good coach david phys deal has a great reputation i respect the hell out of that man and i genuinely like he was my second choice to be the coach of the new york knicks and would have been my first choice almost anywhere else bumping around and do some math square garden station where what looked like look at a human being like what the hell are you doing up in that really made it somebody like a more jackson for two reasons number one the be the face of a franchise to be the voice for new yorkers on behalf of new yorkers tough sell new york bar to be the calming influence andy i of the stone when things go awry as they seem to always do entercom new yorkers yorkers down so everybody would be okay in we'd be reminded that tomorrow would be a better day we don't have that right now you can point the finger in a multitude of directions and who's the health say you'd be right or wrong we don't know all we know is that a misery seems to be perpetual it it seems to be never ending and it seems to be proliferating it's such a cool fashion that we don't we shouldn't know what to do it ourselves you are the new york knicks you lose out on k being carried a golden state that l eight lakers could the elliott clippers whatever nobody sweat nat all right that's unfortunate new york next gotta get better that's not what this is ladies and gentlemen it's not about the new york knicks not getting the start it's about the stars choosing new york but not the name you lost to brooklyn right your mac met michael your mac live nation rock nation jay z wall parades sean marks kenny it's been said they've built some things over there in brooklyn level of credibility the new york knicks have been starving for that guy oh no man in new york i love new york it doesn't matter whether i'm living in now like i love the knicks no matter what no matter how many games do the brooklyn nets that's entice me to attend but talk about exercising in cruelty spike leave feeling right now still feeling right now gone to a point where my god damn austin i don't even i mean this is so ethically bad selling julius randle didn't have the name of twenty one million doing doing any one by one and two year veteran three third year team option so i guess that's a great thing but i'm just saying the job that day john look at me did it have to be announced yesterday wait till the day how is it that minutes after losing out on k d f kyri y'all think it's okay to reach an agreement with julius randle including white twelve that's kind of why you're way this is worst in the new york makes going after the brawn james in acquiring in injury an injured a modest out of mine i think the only thing worse than the reality of what has transpired is what may have contributed to it i'll explain exactly what i'm talking about in it at eight say espn it's inundate seven to nine three seven seven six you're listening to the stephen a smith show is being radio is be a new straight talk wireless everything for less only at walmart by the way everyone loves summer except the sleeping in swampy swampy heat trapping sheets with no way the gate cool stay dry and obviously no rest that's why you need cheat sheets pat and it's sleek tech tech fabrics 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to nine three seven seven six welcome back to the stephen a smith show radio national airwaves of espn radio and he is being news while give back to the calls i promised you have to take into account and take stock of everything that's transpired a what the new york knicks obviously that's not the only team that made deals 'em kyri left boston he's going to brooklyn kemba walker left charlotte he's going the boston 'em he wanted a hundred and ninety million in or more from michael jordan michael jordan wasn't willing to trigger the luxury tax a four minute you're a player that could is very very talented a guy that he loved clearly the most talented player on that squad but obviously somebody that wasn't gonna be able to get you to the postseason 'cause that's not what kemba walker can do a so because of that michael jordan offer twenty million more than boston could offer that wasn't enough kimbro felt insulted he decided to go to boston even though i think that's kind of bogus 'cause he was always tried to leave any way you don't need an excuse to wanna leave charlotte you wanna leave a small market team like that if they had signed him understand that michael jordan doesn't have the greatest reputation and i understand it doesn't look like he's done the greatest job nobody can refute that we all understand than that but the flip side to it that's very very important to point out is that had he signed kimball walker to those dollars then kimball walker and he would not have been able to acquire any other players wouldn't have been able to do anything with the roster plush would have been missing the post season anyway so you just would have been paying kemba fill seats during the regular season before you went home and mid april so you know as bad as it seems 'em there's two shots that but kemba walker clearly is the quintessential appropriated replacement kyrie irving in boston a how far that gets don't we were in it remains to be seen we'll find out we'll we will definitely definitely go from there 'em collide leonard and it's still a decision that needs to be made it will find out what that is about it we will definitely go from there all of that stuff is definitely something that you know we'll see what happens let's see what happens the clippers it desperately waiting to see if they get why they think they've got a great shot at co why they think that co why would come to them before they go to the lakers the lakers beg to differ lebron james has a relationship with him the magic johnson has a relationship with those close to him even though magic is no longer the president the basketball operations 'em robert lincoln has a relationship where collide college coach because he was also rapa lakers college coach so all of those things come into the equation it comes in a consideration it is what it is and there you go back to the knicks because this is on voidable when you think about what transpired yesterday and when you think about the fact that things are not the way it did not end up paying out to be the way you thought they should be and you thought they were going to be here's the reality you have to think about kristaps porzingis now now if you listen to the new york knicks kristaps porzingis is not somebody that they want it titrate they were prepared to trade him they took calls they knew what other teams were offering a ham coming off his ac l injury still not ready to come back and play not until next season excetera they were aware of that they were prepared to do whatever they needed to do according to the new york mix porzingas comes into your office he meets with their bras for four minutes informs them he wants out he wants to leave you would appreciate them if they traded matt adam fat gave new four teams home in san antonio won with toronto one with even brooklyn now forgot the fourth one knicks obviously were looking they want it to oblige because they didn't need a guide there that didn't wanna be there that would be a walking billboard about not wanting to be there for prospective free agents that may wanna come new york so they rolled the dice and they unloaded him if you listen to the knicks that's their explanation porzingas the side of things the folks that he and his brother have spoken to maybe his brother yannis what their interpretation was so folks any nb a community from my understanding is that he did ask betrayed he wasn't gonna ask to be traded oh he want it was a one on one with james dolan he wants to see the direction of the franchise what direction election if they were going in what they were going to do etcetera etcetera and he wasn't gonna speak to flattering lee about organization and the next thing you know he was traded i don't know what to believe i'll give the knicks the benefit of the doubt on that here's my issue and this one is voidable do you know that kristaps porzingis nicknamed mainly unicorn came from kevin durant did you know that kevin the rat that will do that he wanted to play what did you know that and if that's the guy that he liked it obviously you wanna be careful you wanna be careful about moving him you wanna be careful about trading it here's the other side all of this because this is the kind forgot about this being put out there and in fairness to the new york knicks having spoken about this don't know their side of things on this matter but i know when it comes to the andre jordan here on k d a pretty close there's a reason why kadian kyri elected to take left in the match to shorted this guy gets forty million dollars over four years and i go some new york city to brooklyn why did that happen what has become the case what i'm being told he wasn't happy with the knicks wasn't happy what i is being utilized wasn't happy for being told that you know what we need to play some of the younger guys i don't know how much truth there is that here's what i do know he just left the knicks to go to brooklyn in if this do was tight if this dude was tight k d what did you feel compelled to ingratiate just go to the best of your ability with d andre jordan so k d could be excited about potentially coming in new york isn't that possible with that too much to ask i don't think so but that's the situation and as a result the new york knicks if you listen up folks speaking out against traded the player that kb may have wanted to play would most an alienated a person they had in house before you got there no matter what way you slice it doesn't that sound like the new york knicks right or wrong true or false perception why does that not sound is that not consistent with what we've heard about the new york knicks and the change tillman never end here's the thing i'm not one of those people who excoriates james dolan who's the person that's on the airwaves remind you of the good things done how philanthropic and charitable he is who is the person that tells you that players swear by him who's the person that tells you that people that play for him never speak ill of ham ambler over the person that tells you that his petulance is pettiness that annoys me in rakes the nerves in new york knick fans everywhere that's about the only thing we get to say about dolan i don't wanna look steve mills i don't wanna look at anybody else what's in madison square garden i'd like to aim higher directly in a direction over james dolan but when a man comes on the michael kay show on ninety eight point seven fm in new york city has considered ugly tells you i don't you know anything about basketball i don't make these basketball decision i leave that to the people hire y'all wanna be out of the way i got out of the way i haven't been in since into interfering and making sure that we honor that commitment to carmelo anthony he used those words but that's basically what happened to their promise carmelo anthony davis don't get in the new yorker year earlier before he left in these inside shallow know about the fact of the matter is when he says he says that he's left steve mills when he said he's left at the phil jackson when he says that he left the times they atomic when he said that he's love all of these folks are we missing the boat if we point the finger solely in his direction especially when what he's most known for play in his guitar with his band and laser gentleman by the way they don't get paid they pay people don't let them perform that's how bad it is i think one story i read the bam was paid two hundred dollars ladies and gentlemen vegas on the street collect more than two hundred dollars in the band of a billionaire that's all they must that don't put stuff in perspective i don't know what the hell it at eight say espn it's edited seven to nine three seven seven six back to your calls to your calls in a minute you listen live stephen they sp radio if you missed any of my opening statement go check it out on demand the stephen a smith show podcast brought to you by the capital one 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Can Anyone Save The Knicks?

The Lead

20:58 min | 1 year ago

Can Anyone Save The Knicks?

"Yeah I see that you're wearing your Patrick Ewing Knicks Jersey. Today Kavita. Yeah I mean it feels like the only thing expands have these days is nostalgia. Well I guess it's appropriate because today you're putting on your reporter hat to talk about the latest drama drama with the New York Knicks. The Knicks have fired head coach. David Deal twenty two games into his second season with the franchise ties. It's been a tough year for the Knicks. Again and David physial became the latest head coach to get the boot in New York when he was fired on Friday. And today I'm speaking with the athletics could beat the Davidson Longtime New York. Sports writer about. Why is Dale got canned and if it will make any difference whatsoever whatsoever for the Knicks from wondering and the athletic I'm under skelter beat the Davidson? It's Tuesday December tenth and this is the lead. It felt like something great was happening. There is something about the emotion and in the past because was seen. 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Can you rate only takes a few minutes in one affect your credit. That's absurd dot com slash lead upstart dot com slash. Lead all right so real quickly to beat the before you started hosting the lead. You were a new york-based work based sports reporter writing about among other things the knicks. Yeah I joined. The athletic in May as a sports business reporter and a lot of my writing has focused focused on New York teams. And until you moved here to la you were also a lifelong New Yorker born and raised Washington Heights. Yeah you know growing up in New York in the nineties especially like our teams and our city or they're very much part of our identity so give us the state of the Knicks coming into this past Friday. I mean it was not good. The Knicks were four and eighteen. They were coming off of back to back thirty plus point losses and just as organization. The Knicks are coming off of two decades of disappointment so it wasn't exactly surprising that David Fidel got fired. It wasn't surprising. I mean there'd been a lot of chatter after after the Knicks. Slow start that he was on his way out but I think the the way he was let go definitely caught people off guard. Yeah so how exactly did it go down on Wednesday. Everything seemed okay as okay as a losing team can be but then on Thursday they get blown out by the nuggets and I talk how to our colleague. Frank I sola about just what happened on Friday on Friday. They have David fizzed. Ill Not only show up for work. But he runs the practice this he meets with the media afterwards and within a couple of hours they announced that he's been far this video of Davisville after practice at ended walking over do do all these executives and they're all friendly they're chatting it up but those guys at that time they knew that David Hale was getting fired. It was a very very awkward kind of bizarre scene so it just seemed like very cold and calculated to a lot of people and maybe that it had been a rash decision like a direct reaction to to really embarrassing losses and too many people it seemed indicative of how poorly run organization is and what the culture at the Nixes Lake Mike and Fills the latest in a really long line of head coaches that have come and gone from the next look man. They've gone through ten coaches in the last fifteen years. Six coaches fired by current team president. Steve Mills five out of the last nine were fired midseason that season. It just kind of feels like every year. We have the same conversation about how the coach of the Knicks is about to be scapegoated for the teams larger failures so the Knicks have been a punchline for quite some time now but let's not forget. There was a time when the New York Knicks were larger than life. I mean in the nineties. The Knicks were truly kings of New York. Patrick Ewing John starks. Charles Oakley Larry Johnson. Anthony Mason the Alan Houston Latrell Sprewell. Marcus Camby and as frank is Sola describes that was that was the era of true big men and I mean those nineties teams were physical. It's the nineties we're just GONNA have to beat people up. We're going to be the toughest team out there. We're going to be the most physical team we're going to be the team. That's in the best shape and I think that really was the mentality of the nineties next. If you we're going to beat them you're going to have to put up a fight. 'cause they're not gonNA lay down. You know the Knicks always had trouble getting past Michael Jordan the Bulls but they did make it to to NBA finals in the nineties. They really were the glory years. So when did things start to turn for the Knicks. A lot of people point to nineteen ninety nine when James Dolan takes over control of the Knicks from his father. Charles Dolan family owned cable vision. One of New York's largest telecom companies which owned the Knicks. The Rangers Madison Square Garden. And at the time the New York liberty and so tell us a little about Jim Dolan to be honest he was kind of like the narrative of the Dolan clan. He had drug and alcohol problems. Multiple arrests arrests. Jim said in an interview last year that he was close to killing himself with substance abuse but since taking over the Knicks he's earned this reputation as a bit of a hothead. He's very visible at the garden. He's the definition of an owner fan. A guy who grew up on long island rooting for the Knicks and the Rangers injures. He's had some highly publicized conflicts with fans and even knicks legends. Like Charles Oakley. So you know. There's a lot going on with Jim. Dolan win and of course he's got a band jd and the straight shot and he's known to be a rather involved owner. Yeah that's that's really an understatement. When it comes to the Knicks but there was even the story for him after he graduated college? His dowd sent him to start a sports radio station in Cleveland and even then the station managers said quote. He's he's very hands on like apparently he would quiz the hosts every day to make sure they knew what they were talking about and has certainly become the biggest target it for frustrated knicks fans. How would you break down the biggest criticisms of him so a lot of it comes down to the people? He's hired for example Isaiah Thomas who so he brought on in two thousand and three you imagine being the president of the United States go for the president of the New York Knicks legendary legendary player but Isaiah had had two failed stints as an executive in both Toronto and Indiana and he came into New York and made trades for for expensive players. Who many felt were past their prime giving up draft picks in the process? I mean the Eddy. Curry trade is pretty much. The running punch line of every Isaiah. Thomas Joke Doc in New York at one point during his tenure the Knicks had the league's highest payroll and second worst record and then of course he was sued for Sexual Harassment Smith. But despite all of this all of these things that you think would cost a guy. His Job Dolan stood by him for a long time. And what about when he's made better. Oh hires yeah so. For example. He hires walls but it was reported. That Dolan's tendency to micromanage and his insistence on keeping Isaiah around as a consultant proved proved to be too much for Walsh. He wanted complete control of basketball operations. James Dolan wasn't quite ready to give him that type of power and that's really one reason that this split is occurring and it seems like there have been long stretches under Dole and where the Knicks have been trapped in mediocrity a lot of mediocrity a couple of seasons of hope. I mean the best team in recent memory was that twenty twelve thirteen squad that won fifty four games and made it to the Eastern Conference finals and then a lot of seasons of just got awfulness. And you know you could make the case that those mediocre seasons are are worse. They're more frustrating than the God. Awful full seasons because at least the reward for being at the bottom of the League is supposed to be high draft picks picks you could build a future around but the reward for a bunch of Mediocre ochre seasons is just a bunch of middling draft picks. And you can't really do much with that. especially if you draft like the Knicks and lately the Knicks failures have really really been defined by their inability to sign marquee players. Yeah so the biggest example of this was of course their quest to get Lebron James Back in two thousand ten James We. We've got a hold over the Knicks and really the city of New York rolled out the red carpet for Lebron. There were restaurants offering him. All you can eat deals. There is a whole New York City tourism campaign trying to get Lebron sign with the Knicks. Even Broadway got involved. We didn't need your help. They watch you play please. And Jim Dolan was very involved. The pursuit of Lebron they spent the whole season putting together this big production for Lebron James and ex. We're GONNA Recruit Lebron like you would in eighteen year old kid to go Kentucky and Jim Dolan insisted on running the presentation. A lot of people are more into crazy about that. But they're not gonNA tell Jim Dolan shouldn't he opens a meeting by reading cue cards to Lebron so I think at that time. I'm not saying that. That's the reason. Lebron go to New York but they didn't get Lebron and Jim Dolan really felt burned by that and he felt that at the front office had failed and instead they end up getting Carmelo Anthony as a sort of consolation prize so Jim Dolan got directly involved with those negotiations. And I know this because I talked to people Denver the Knicks basically said you can have who ever you want on our roster. We just want Carmelo Anthony. The Denver Nuggets will get to know gone. Are Raymond Felton Wilson Chandler Timofey Mazda. Also four nick starters this is a great deal for the they differ nuggets and a Lotta people really felt that the knicks mortgage their future with that trade and they haven't had many good year since and the lead is supported by simplisafe break in Spike every single angle year during the holidays because families are traveling in burglars. No people have expensive gifts lying around. What's crazy is that only one in five homes have home security probably because most companies don't make it easy with their astronomical monthly fees inexpensive long term contracts? That's why simply safe is my choice for home. Security Security simplisafe protects every room door and window with twenty four seven professional monitoring at a fair price. Just fifteen bucks a month in right now. Who is the best time of the year to get a simplisafe system? Because you'll get a huge discount and a free security camera go to simplisafe dot com slash lead right now to take advantage of simplisafe's amazing holiday savings and get a free. Hd Security Camera. This offer is for a limited time only and it's ending soon so don't wait eight that simplisafe dot com slash L. E. A. D. to save big and get a free security camera simplisafe dot com slash lead and then this past summer. The Knicks were heavily pursuing Kevin and durant and Kyrie Irving in the free agency market. And they were also hunting for new head coach. So how did David Phys day'll come into the equation. He was seen Zina's this guy who could possibly boost their chances of landings of these big free agent players. Dale was seen as what's known as a players coach. He's a young guy. He knew. Lebron Lebron as a as an assistant coach in Miami and the Knicks really thought he could be a draw for there two big free agent targets and maybe for some young players who who might not want to play in New York otherwise they were convincing themselves that with the cap space that we have and David Phys delbene. This young hip coach. Who was an an assistant coach in Miami? Lebron James Free agents are gonNA come running to us in New York. That's what they were selling. When they hire Dave Biz Dale? That's what they were selling all of last season and and in the end none of it came to fruition so coming into this season there was obviously a lot of disappointment with the Knicks. Not landing any big name stars not not to mention missing out on sign Williamson the draft but how his David Phil actually been doing as a coach this season with this hand. He's been dealt not not well. They were foreign eighteen under him. But how much of that. I guess is his fault. It's hard to say the defense has been bad. I think it's fair to criticize him for that. A- and one of his major duties miss very young team was player development. The jury is still out on whether or not. He's actually been good at that but of course that's really hard to assess twenty two games into his season but I think the overall feeling is that he just didn't have much to work with in terms of talent last season. They got David visit to buy into this idea. Okay we're losing now but this losing will turn into something positive during the off season and then you turn around and you look and they didn't really get it in the impact players and I think that has a lot to do with the roster just wasn't good enough and I think David Biz. Dale who probably still has a lot to learn as a head coach. I don't think he could overcome. That goes back to hiring somebody with more than basically a year and ten games as head coach. That's a mistake that they made so you could say he may be hasn't adjusted to the roster that he's been given or you could say that nobody could do well with what he was given in the amount of time he was given and so New York. Doc is where you know for a long time basketball players wanted to go. I mean it's New York but that isn't necessarily the case anymore yet. The sad thing to me you know. Is that like a lot of young players coming up right now. Don't remember the days of the Knicks teams in the nineties. They don't have a good example of what it's like to be a King of New York because the last one really was Patrick Ewing. And that's something that Kevin Durant mentioned. He said the knicks aren't cool anymore. It's not necessarily a team that young players I want to go play for. It doesn't have the appeal of the Golden State Warriors or the Lakers or even the Brooklyn Nets. And so tell us a little bit about the interim head coach coach Mike Miller. He's a basketball veteran. He was a first round. Pick by the Orlando Magic in the two thousand draft. He was rookie of the year two time. NBA Champion with the Miami Heat on those Lebron teams. Where Phil was an assistant coach for the past two seasons? He's been an assistant on Penny Hardaway staff at the University of Memphis and and he's been the head coach of the Knicks G. League team for the past four years. He was actually named coach of the year in the G. League for the twenty seventeen eighteen season and he had been an assistant coach the next under fishtail. And he's really known for his expertise in player development which we've established as a huge part of cultivating cultivating this very young raw roster right and he actually almost pulled off a victory in his debut as coach. Yeah a one point laws on a miss. Julius Randall free throw the Knicks lost one hundred four hundred thousand three to the Pacers and do we have any idea who the next head coach might be well. People are kicking around a lot of names James. I think Mark Jackson could be play. I think Jeff Van Gundy could be in play. I think Tom Thibodeau could be play or another young assistant coach. I would think that Jason Kidd did could perhaps be in play but honestly I think it's way too early to say and the Knicks probably won't hire anyone until after the season's over and there's talk that they could could and probably should shake their front office further with Steve Mills being the next guy potentially on the chopping block as president and previously GM MM-HMM. He's overseeing several years of the dysfunction and frank reported over the weekend that his days are numbered and short of Dolan selling the Knicks. That's seen by some as the most necessary step and actually turning around this team and so I guess the big question here though is would any reasonable person want to be the next head coach of the Knicks. At least as long as the current ownership stays in place. I think it's a lose lose situation. Look there's a lot of money money to be. made the one thing about the knicks that they're not cheap and despite how terrible the Knicks are. They're still the most valuable team in basketball. They're worth four billion dollars. Dollar's losing has not hurt their bottom line. And if you're the coach who ultimately turns around the New York Knicks Franchise. They would actually build a statue of you on Seventh Avenue Avenue outside the garden. So what you're saying. We're going to see a statue of Meta world peace outside Madison Square Gardens in the future. I mean I'd hire him. Well could be the thanks so much for joining me. It was a rough commute. Here are some other stories. We're following at the lead. Russia is out of the twenty twenty Olympics. The World Anti Doping Agency agreed to ban the country for four years after an investigation found that Russia tampered with drug testing data. The ban still leaves the door open for Russian athletes who were not caught up in the scandal to compete as neutral athletes Russian whistleblower Dr Grigory Radchenko off praised. Wada's decision saying quote finally Russia's many doping and obstruction. Sins will now get at some of the punishment they richly deserve. You can hear the details of Russia's elaborate scheme in our December fourth episode of the lead titled Dope Cheat Repeat. Repeat the finalists for the heisman. Trophy have been revealed. or I should really say the runners-up have been revealed because let's be honest. Ain't nobody beating out. LSU You quarterback. Joe Borough the other finalists include. Oklahoma quarterback Jalen hurts am to Ohio. State players quarterback justin fields and defensive. End Chase Chase young borough. The best player on the nation's top team was a unanimous selection as the heisman winner in the Athletic Straw poll on Monday. The heisman award presentation. TATION is Saturday in New York and on a sad note. Pete Frady's a driving force behind the ice bucket. Challenge has died at thirty four frady's was diagnosed with LS in two thousand fourteen and brought awareness to the disease through dozens of public events and an appearance before Congress. His efforts contributed attributed to the more than two hundred million dollars raised for AOL s by the viral online. Challenge the Athletic Steve Buckley who appeared on our show earlier this year to tell the history of the ice bucket challenge called Frady's quote a giant of a man who turned a death sentence into an opportunity to make the world a better place from wondering the athletic. I'm under skelter and I'm beat the Davidson. See You tomorrow.

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Hour 2: Stugotz

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

34:25 min | 2 years ago

Hour 2: Stugotz

"Eighty six burgers ras how they broke into homes and all said they knocked on the door first that's why you need blink x t to cameras they detect motion so you get an alert and you could see in talked to who's there till the delivery guy would be the package or say hi when the kids get home blink x t to camera start under a hundred bucks so thanks the blink home security just got easier blink cameras are available on amazon and best buy or visit blinkprotect dot com slash freddie blinkprotect dot com slash f r e double d i e dan laboratory which still got your podcast is brought to you by the capital one saver card earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent at grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases now when you go out you cash in what's in your wallet terms apply there are a couple of surprises yesterday a d andre jordan being part of a new super team when he does many of the same things jared allen does on that team which we're dangelo russell going the golden state police weird mike their reports there is there reporting on whether or not the warriors just wants to trade for an asset and plan on flipping him or do they plan on keeping their been has there been any buddy reporting whether or not they might just turn a and flip dangelo russell son it where it's not as though the thought is they're keeping dangelo russell here 'em i'd be curious to see whether any reports in in the coming days jared allen you said jared allen does the same thing jared allen in the pet that oh jared allen apparently russia area jared allen a dozen you do the same thing i can't believe he's still in the position which kyrie irving kevin rent or sacrificing money to get d andre jordan denser that's a bit of a stunner us so we have tracked down i despondent a just a sobbing dehydrated from the sobbing stu got still got it it it happened in the worst possible way the thing that you you're the most so where what kind of stayed there you in take us through you're a lot over the weekend a i am standing somewhere in colorado overlooking scream contemplating a you know just you know it'd importance of life if any of my teams were ever gonna be any good again a really bad state and it's not just that the knicks didn't get not that they sold us not kevin durant's i on williamson kyrie irving it's not gonna get any of those guys it's now they have david phys dale is their coach because he's the coach that players like clearly a none of the players like david phys dale it is the fact that their plan b did they did have a plan b plan b someone's gonna sit here at tell me that see bill scott perry's david phys dale at all the time the planets out there plan b was taj gibson that was the plan b i mean that's the one that hits hoarded stand that plan b wasn't kemba walker it wasn't any one of the big time free agents that were available once they realized they didn't get having to read had kyrie irving they shifted their focus over julius randle taj gibson bobby portis it's complete embarrassment a complete disgrace and i'll tell you right now at people walking by me there are people on scooters going by me on vives on mountains buys all vicks files with a look like me like i'm crazy do me a favor keep on moving along stupid movie will give me a bad ways joy you're mountain bike friendly joy colorado had just keep it moving it stops there here's the thing though did not have considered it up sorry dead i gotta get this out okay you have a little bit spot you have to do this okay that this generation of players this gender this three this beautiful by this generation of players okay you out there starting with the brawn james all the way through drew somehow they've all got together had a meeting somewhere ward off season they decided that that was not a single one of us is ever going to play new york pick what we're gonna do is give the impression that we wanna play the next and then apply the maximum alone possible amount of pain none of these players wanna play for james dolan ended the knicks have to really sit down and figure that out and get that big big problem moving forward i'm sorry that's almost entirely true carmelo was the one that but i love i love i love guy that that is what happened yeah you know what i found myself falling in love with carmelo anthony gave the only guy that multiply here now we have we have no hope hope yard who said that a guy that we drafted doesn't really wanna be there but has no choice other that the strap it up we have the whole at rj barrett turns it the next kevin durant it'd be does script i don't know why you're taking your frustrations out on colorado hikers hikers and vacationers hoover and i'm advancing they're listening view of venting a an it's got the dodgers for five minutes joe get get the hell out of here m b a b idea then they would go to new york those two guys like how much worse is it because they didn't choose new york they just chose it twenty minutes away from where you want him to yeah that hurts to that's what i'm saying like that like it flipped broad you don't go into the yankee games only gets you fifty gonna become a decade yet no it's actually something again and then you had yeah and then you know they're they're they're the backs of possible may not just hey were docket picks were gonna bet you they were going to the knicks that were gonna go to your neighbors of brooklyn it's wiper that it's like are you kidding me and i'll tell you right now brooklyn that bad idea okay i seriously you're all that great at what point you'll be dictated together guy you're a bunch of phony but here's what i'll tell you guys humidity good all right that's the other thing i listen i'm gonna tell you about getting the highly you're okay with not bad about addicted have a plan b but i could tell you brooklyn planetary complete disaster yard planning they're planning their plan you'll you'll hear you wouldn't be in hiding you'd be gloating if they got duran duran kyri jumping on our planet but i got a pivot here in the service of the brooklyn nets are good i mean they might be next year without kevin the rat milwaukee their top ten t a t the dmv hey what kevin the rat pack if he's healthy they're lucky there a top five bnb i have i've asked i mean listen i gotta make myself feel better this is all about the healing process if front of a screen and you're caught the importance of everything in life and then you bears but not with a bad month they made adds to go to if you're sitting at a table right now along with another name smith in spike lee who's the saddest stephen a smith by a long shot i i've never seen anyone that just bothered by it so i i met fans celebrating there is no one eighty arena celebrating everybody was yawning around the arena that is downright then we have thought we what is viable you pick amateur kyrie irving bobby portis no none of mets fans and players you wanna know there were no mets fans nobody nobody over their tears that that's the boy no one cares yeah is that is that said oh i know that's it i doubt that exist they lives somewhere in the dumps of new jersey in east rutherford but they're not used a quiet at one time factor back i'd be part of the bar which is you know they're not that bad guy i listen i'll tell you what right they applied the maximum possible about a big they chose the lesser brand the lesser t h brooke wasn't that over they get the nets apathetic is saturday december thing i'm working on from the fact oh well okay working off the back you're big way with todd get bit of bobby portis it's a complete disaster it really is but i'll tell you that kevin the rat will not where did she in fact yeah joel russell will win more championships over the next four years but kevin the rat that stu gods so you know what the plan is two years all these two year contract it's again in the room winning streak free cannot get him he's not leaving walking he's not gonna go anywhere the greek freak is nowhere near new york if he does what would have been if what why would anyone wanna play video games all of this point in life it less and this is the big at large j barrett becomes a player that player then maybe he could attract free agents all right i recall back to go back to you're colorado yelling you'd vacationers drinking doing whatever it is you have to do this to yourself a belly can you get the sound the play of a stu gods maximum stu gods a he just tried deflects his knowledge of the nets muscle and then got bored midway through the name of kerry kittles 'em he got bored when he started talking about what the mets history was we have found and tell you as you syllable off kerry kittles name because you got bored saying that nets team of terry can't and then you just moved on idaho's yes you're right that's exactly what happened did another word a guy let me know what you know listen one second i'm really upset about the nixon executive really happy i think what the liberals completely stupid rage of a large it it's just it's all over and they're all over the place i seriously they get carrie underwood good that's a pretty good time to just see fight our resembled salaries that we could see that stu gods here you tired of credit card bills with high interest rates ready to pay off your credit card balances start saving money getting credit card consolidation loan from light stream with rates as low as five point nine five percent hp are with auto pay lower than the average credit card interest rate of over nineteen percent eight pr you get a loan from five five thousand to one hundred thousand dollars with no fees no application fees no origination fees no transaction fees no prepayment penalties the rate is fixed so it will never go up over the life of the loan plus you can even get your money in your bank account as soon as the day you apply just for my listeners apply now and get a special interest rate 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from the sports weekend yeah the knicks roy what is your nominee for funniest thing from the sports weekend the next mike america cody the yankees and red sox combining for fifty runs into games together londoners the mistaken impression the baseball is exciting citing i go sit in the penalty box even though were not on television we just discussed as a group the fact that we were all going to say next their lane here that i wasn't in on that discussion free leave the room thank you so they always think they're getting the free agent we just had the conversation that discuss right around you're head we had the conversation that there aren't that many funniest thing from the sports weekend they were only like seven or eight items and that was a it was right near had even if it wasn't discussed you would have thought he would have picked up on the theme tonight some point some excellent point you're you're i'm telling you you're you're father's level of self involvement is eight worsening nb was all reveal like nothing i've ever seen 'em being new york knicks though the thing about it mike because they're any number of layers to this that make this comedic lee perfect not the least of which is that the free agents chose someplace twenty minutes away in the next president is you know in a in a press release it sounds starch and steph and awful talking about remaining upbeat which is just that phrase like it's not the phrase you wanna come out of free agency with with the president's saying we remain upbeat but to me the funniest part of this is they never learn that they always think they're getting the guys they the nick people always think they're getting the guy they it is like is it just the first it always pushes the rock up the hill and it always comes back to and so is in the same place they always get pulled in the thinking that they're gonna get the free agent with all their own earned arrogant fits really confusing to me i grew up in the nineties and the knicks were kind of good did back then but for fans of that team i think that they have some birthright to the best players in the have the best team majority of my life they've been what the bengals used to be i think they're not this special marquee franchise they just play in a big city the people being drafted today have not seen the knicks beginning good it's all about the history of the place they talk about what it means but nobody has any access to that who's being drafted they're changing teams in fact how much access duran have doing what startling to me is everyone in this whole off season seems to not take tampering at all seriously right but it's it's almost as if the knicks you just got to this last week like okay let's see medical record's with kevin durant's decisions already been made they just seem so out of touch and now the planet so we do more you're listening sat on someone else mike they had hope in the last decade only during a commercial break because during the draft lottery when it looked like the knicks were in position to get the top pick in the draft they go to commercial and the knicks have not yet been called that is the only real hope the new york had an idea mike that they didn't even get to enjoy free agency they did it was announced as soon at six o'clock happened just it as it was the first news of the day is nick you're not getting the guys you're your and they didn't even get to enjoy these days here these these three days where you could hope you're gonna get me the big guy it's hard to because they're signing the most players but no reason and get excited over there it says if every they're just not hip to what's going on in the league and the lease selfaware fan base in the room why with anyone go there well it's the knicks at some back at the mecca of what there hasn't been good basketball played there my adult life much of what is so some birthright the clippers are out here talking like they belong in every free agency room and they play in las angeles let's do what the clippers have been a laughing stock but the longer but my point is not that much longer the knicks have been a laughing stock they have the worst i think winning percentage in this millennium they're all laughing stock and and everyone just assumes that they should be everyone that supports that team hangar levelheaded people understand that no one wants to play for that owner because look at what's gone on looked at it could look at i look at it every day just listened the jd in the straight shots just go ahead and download some of their music and you'll understand why no one wants to play there let's consider the secret life of the innermost nesting doll living most of her life in the dock inside the other nesting dole's she has plenty of time to think if could sadly sadly she has no brain however when in a most nesting dole his the kyko not only saves people money but also has been providing great service for over seventy five years she thinks it's obvious you should switch because yes switching to geico is a no brainer pitchy in a most nesting dolan lot in life don lemon tart texter writes in stu gods looks homeless today if i saw him walking down ocean drive i would give five dollars stu gods thank you me safety donlevatar show so would they still got sony espionage radio one of the most tired arguments you here in sports radio about discussions meant to take the power away from athletes people becoming are uncomfortable with how much power these athletes are getting quiet leonard is going is about to hurt two teams here who were just waiting around for hawaii leonard a but loyalty in the contract loyalty oil t i've heard you mentioned this a number of different times over the years greg cody idea of contract loyalty a i think by now we understand that loyalty runs one way it runs with all the pressure from fans and management to be against the player in the way they showed itself this weekend is were all screaming and yelling transactions and this is fun and look at this guy go in there and free agency very quietly the golden state warriors champions just discarded a finals mvp in a way but i'm guessing kinda hurt his feelings even if he understands it's a business they just sort of sense in some memphis andy i wonder andre igwe dolla they've taken pay cuts around there to keep him in play a he is at the wrong end of the best defensive player in the history of the sport with lebron james but he was in the middle of everything with them andy his loyalty to them earned him what yeah nothing i mean earning championship right but it it at the end do what did they earn him yeah it didn't earn him you know you you don't even if you're an athlete you don't get the gold watch saying thanks for your service here's a brand new contract i've evolved over the years just to expect both sides to be ruthless i expect players to do whatever they're gonna do to get their money or to go where they wanna go to to win an i expect teams to be absolutely cold in the ruthless in treating these players like cattle it's interesting when you consider what happened last week with andre dollars book promotion and now one could theorized that the warriors sort of told him what the deal was with his contract situation based on a couple of different scenarios and he got the inclination that he probably wasn't in their plans so he then turned felt liberated and sorted saying a lot of things to the breakfast club per one that painted the warriors in a negative light you open the show by saying i'm sure the warriors were like shut up because who knows the legalities surrounding whatever happened with kevin durant and if that if we see another page and that whole story but andre igwe dollar certainly wasn't hurt helping the warriors case in that either have you been hearing anything a now that it's trickling out that kevin durant 'em it is upset with the warriors for a misdiagnosis 'em are there any legal grounds here like has is anyone reporting v idea that kevin durant's if he feels that strongly end if his last year didn't go the way he wanted to with the warriors any feels lied to by the medical staff i i'm legitimately wondering have been for a while without without asking anybody 'em whether or not he would have legal grounds to 'em yeah i think bill walton sued the suit is seen one time diagnoses so sports all insider dot com wrote an article called the impending terrain warriors lawsuit that no one is talking about it and it started making a some waves on twitter and on social media but everyone would just sort of wondering what was gonna happen with kevin durant's interesting note on iran's moved to the nets believe the surgeon that did the procedure on him is actually the nets team doctor so yet another layer intel this whole orchestrated fearing with rock nation everything changed about this off season when he went down and right there is where the knicks could point to everything fell apart for us there because healthy kevin durant is calling all his own shots this off season healthy kevin durant is holding up the system a firm here forward the way collide can because were just all waiting on what it is there are there are two teams that are are swinging all or nothing here there three teams doing it but two of them have the chance of coming away with nothing there's boogie cousins what's left of the clippers are release in a better position because they have more cap space for one but that doesn't really matter when all the free agents are gone but they at least have future assets the lakers have one max available and if they miss out on that max lot they could only sign guys into space sitter free agents and the free agents are gone so then they just have a buyout market they could trade for like a bad contract into their space but i mean what sort of impact is that is just buyout market when you guys reid a the reports that magic johnson has secured a meeting in west co why leonard you guys realize you guys realize that if co why goes to the lakers if magic johnson had just been a little more patient he would have become executive executive of be doing everything wrong he would've liked if co why goes to the lakers all magic johnson had to do was not equipped for a couple of weeks not quite in and unprecedented fashion in front of cameras a whim of the moment his wife did know jeanie buss didn't know if he had just waited a few weeks my guess is he would have gotten a renewed enthusiasm for the job by merely acquiring anthony davis and now he's the one securing the meeting where why leonard a clone even though it's against league rules and which i'm pretty sure the reports went out of the the meeting in the league call them right away and explain to them how this isn't allowed league rules which was news that everybody in the room so the relationship is between between magic and cool wise uncle an all v a the pro lakers reports it's pretty evident to see where that's coming from meanwhile the clippers have someone on staff that is profiled a quiet leonard for sports illustrated in the past and they feel confident someone's gonna end up in really bad shape here one quite co why can't go all of that's right and i think toronto would be leased mad lease mad because they got their title and they got a a gm that's proven he can make the most of the situation way she handled it all because they're canadian breakout you read about days we're rich baby seriously if magic could just waited another month he'd be running the board for a decade and we'd all be like what if that lebron was question whether or not he could do that job look i wouldn't be hiding under a desk right now if he signed why leonard anthony davis and lebron ron james after i said that he wasn't qualified for that job i think i agree entire hiding under a desk i could actually understand the bravado of james dolan being that they're the new york knicks and there again in the room the lakers are getting all these players they have anthony davis they're still alive quiet leonard and they've done nothing right so dolan's just taking their early don lemon tart yo chicken time stu gods modern job bcc donlevatar show with stu gods tony as pm radio deal so in the back of the room feeling lonely today billy in chris talking baseball everyone's talking basketball today but they're in the back talking baseball what happened with yelp week i heard you guys talking about well the cubs are playing the reds and pedro strope reliever for the cubs with a thrill count an he hit tweak an it seemed like it just got away from him if he would have wanted him he probably would have done it earlier in the count and we just like lost his mind in thought he was doing it on purpose and they had an exchange classic baseball flight where they don't ever actually get to each other and we were just going crazy and you saw strapless kinda like pointing to his head and then he had quotes after the game talking about week i mean it's not a secret used to i mean nothing against him while he's stupid gosh i wish more people talk that way like wendy right where wherever here in that particular sound hey it's no secret he's stupid i mean it's not a secret used to mean nothing against him while he's still open gear mo put it on the poll please at lebatardshow tired shokhin you saying nothing against him but he's stupid do people think weakest stupid i mean we know he's a hot had had yeah not just stupid stupid his bleep yeah i mean i don't know whether you mean on educated he's got a bad reputation in baseball but i'm of the belief that people can be smart about things outside of books and there's a certain lopsided genius that goes into these crafts they can make them very smart at the craft but not very smart is other state well speaking of lopsided geniuses in speaking of pedro strope hearing his name again reminded me of this classic bob costas clip courtesy of mlb network bossio this time it's matter and that means the authors on his way in strobe is on his way out to the heavens and we can only ask for wonder that he is asking some departed relative for forgiveness this atrocious performance he apologized for that he had to apologize the family but that's what we need we need both of these things combined with easy announcers to do more of what bob costas did here you mean what he did prime lt network it's not cossio this time it's mountain and that means a modest on his way in strope is on his way out in the morning to the heavens so we can only ask coral wonder that he is asking some relative of forgiveness this atrocious performance now the funniest part of this exchange and almost fight was joey votto holding week back and you could tell 'cause votto which is doing that thing he's kind of overpowering him like no i'm not gonna let you get back and we want it to get past them and then there is it exchange at the end of it where you could kind of see where people's like get your hands off me i thought for a second there that bottle when we were just would have been wonderful two straps point that would have been stupid i think my favorite part of the fight wednesday announcer very accurately and dismissive lee saying if the better wants to get the pitcher oh get to the pitcher up play the strap sound again just so we can all enjoy be idea idea of another man one man in indiana septic world of the baseball clubhouse where personalities not allowed and you must never trample sportsmanship here is eight reliever who just plunked you asked me oh please on three oh pitch i mean it's not a secret used to nothing against him while he's still playing at best part i it's almost like he can't help it he i i guess that's what he means by nothing against the book it's just i don't matter he also says the everybody knows that it's known these stupid a speaking of which a earlier in the show stu gods were giving you information he is roaming the countryside right now he's texting me saying he doesn't know he doesn't know how to feel these mad at everybody i am one of the things that he did and i wanna know if you guys have any friends like this stu gods on with us earlier and out of nowhere he decided to show us for no good reason that he's a new that a mets team ten years ago was led by what i think was going to become kerry kittles but he never got to the end of the thought as he often doesn't but explain if you have friends who do things like this because he came on and this has nothing to do with what we asked him it's bonus information where he's just showing off then he knows something ended fundamentally useless no one cares that said oh no that's it i doubt that exist they live somewhere in the dumps of new jersey in east rutherford whether that's used a quiet at one time but the fact the fact that be a part of the bar where you're not that they're finished kerry get old 'em gary to mess around with care care let me hear it again just say you could see just senior becomes he's a noxious awful and we all have i feel like we all have this sports friend who says an as an aside the mets went back to back finals were not even without tearing kennel like i'm not seeing any play for what he one of the top three players on a listing well it's an interesting choice because i was clearly jason kids team though is a deep keep van horn then richard jefferson team i feel like it was richard jefferson teams i'd jason jason williams a part of this did that whole thing happened after this is kerry kittles though we're doing terry kennels rank on a i mean at times you could have been second and fourth depending on who it was very clear also is jason kidd but not the suit nobody cares that said oh no that's it that's up that exist they leave somewhere in the dumps of new jersey in east rutherford but they're not used a quiet at one time but the fact the fact that be a part of the bar with gary nunn that guy's a mike i'm telling you that new york witted superiority complex with the fandom that has been on earned arrogant where's the way they treat new jersey they don't respect the mets there'll be other franchise not anymore like they just took you're city from mhm i don't know even even when the nets of kerry kit to quit even the nets they didn't take over the city the way i mix playoff run will take over the city but for now the nets have one new york and they've won new york for the next you know three years at least it's it's been interesting to hear a stu gods and especially stephen a smith almost moved tiers talking about what the knicks will become because i've been a sports fan my whole life in i don't think any team i'm a fan of has ever let me down to the degree where i would be moved cheers with disappointment you know i'm passionate about sports but it's sports you know i i never felt about any of my teams what what stephen a smith sounded like i mean this is i i experiences with the browns but it's supposed to happen in cleveland this is new york you you could only be bad for so long because people are just automatically drawn to the city you can't mismanaged manages situation this poorly can you they still have a top ten attendance base don't they like they said they you must say that all of those people with all of that on earned arrogance in their fandom they do support that slop which is

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"Saddam here seven ten ESPN presented by Progressive Insurance guests appear via the Shell Pennzoil performance line. The NBA always at the forefront of doing the right thing. And our next guest. He's a part of that family and we love having mom we love talking to him is in La Kid. David physio joining us here. On the show on seven ten ESPN phys. Thank you so much for the time. I do want to talk about this coaches. Association Committee that YOU'RE ON WITH POPPING Steve and Stan Van Gundy Lloyd Pearson just a second. But? Just as someone look, you grew up here. You are african-american. What are your thoughts on just what you're seeing right now in this country? You. Know I'm not surprised. I mean this is this is. This is what boils over when. You know in Nineteen, ninety one rodney king was beaten down on video. And you know although we we protested and burned down things and tried to get the message out that. there was some some really bad actors in the police force. You know don't really listen not to change and. Time and time again we've seen. On tape on video all camera phone. black man, either be a brutalized and murdered unarmed. Black Man. being targeted. You know for the color of their skin and This was just a matter of time before this boiled over and was different than back. Then as you know, we are social media and the message is now. A national message worldwide buses spraying very fast, and you can see that you know if you go back to those protests back then it was. It was mainly black, black people, Hispanic people in the streets. Protesting, and now you just have an array of races and. And Ages and genders out there saying that enough is enough and you know. Obviously we don't want to see violence or or anything bad happened anybody already damage to people's property but at the day they say that the only way the voiceless is her his through action like this. Oh, no I'm not surprised and you know. You know it's just unfortunate and I just WanNa make sure that I sent. Condolences you know to the Floyd family and Aubrey family and Taylor family and all of the other families that have had to suffer. Through losing loved ones at the hands of the police. How encouraged are you though by the stuff you just mentioned about people from all sorts of different backgrounds in age demographics coming together, whereas that hasn't been the case previously. I am encouraged You know. I've always said that. This isn't a black problem. this is this is this is the White Problem Mrs perpetuated through our history you know. It's been a stain on our history. The the racism that that our country was founded on whether it was the the killing of native American Indians or this Lightman of Africans. You know this is this has been a white problem and. You know to see so many why people have conscience. Come out and start to really recognize that. these are things that don't just affect our community, but it's a fact on all humanity. is really encouraging, but you know as my wife said here. We sit here talking. You know as as many people are. That are in the street right now protests that we need double that to come out and vote. You know and that's the thing that's going. Really make changes. The two years the two year voters cycles, and then obviously the the four year. What is critical, but we need all of these folks went when the story goes away to step and get out and vote and put people in these positions that are gonNA put humanity i. And that's that's my point. Is that I? Look at it. This way David Physio joining us here on the Sodano show is that it is important to register. There's you know there's so many people is three hundred thirty million people in this country, and about sixty, some odd percent of those are eligible to vote, but yet only. Half of those actually are registered to vote and I think that whether it's the federal level, but more importantly the local level like those those votes those ballots. That's the most as important as anything to be honest with you. Know, you're absolutely right. You know you start to talk about your mayor. Council people! Police tease. You Know Sarah. Though the people that we vote for those people that were putting in those positions, and so you know the thing that I think about it, 'cause I you know. I had a grandfather I was deeply rooted in the civil rights movement was always tell, is you know? Why do people think we die for the right to vote? It was four times like this for for times like you know when Rodney King was beaten. we need to be able to exercise that right because think about it. If all of this was going on, and we didn't have the right to vote. Could you imagine then what would be transpiring and so Dad is what are our parents grandparents great grandparents went through and why they went through it. It's for times like this, and so if you if you aren't registered to vote if you if you. If you're not a person that has ever voted, you must go online. How to register, it's very easy. Get Online. Get yourself registered. And about the candidates for all of these local level positions. That can impact the change that we're talking about. David with us here and Look David. I think that you know as we talk about the political process, the reason you need to get involved in the political processes because the actual issue that we're talking about the killing of minorities and African Americans in this country at the hands of police, and just the injustices, and the the fact that we just had a young man on his. I, don't know if you were listening. Literally said I'M A. A college graduate right and I'm in my car and I've been you know. Have guns pulled on on me and we're just going to dinner you me and my brother and that's that's an America that a lot of people don't live and the fact that there are people that live that way. We need to focus on that and understand that it's not even politics. This is a humanity thing. You know what I mean. People be treated humanely. And again you know. The and voting and all of that you're not GonNa Change. Particular People's hearts, but you could definitely suppress some of their actions with with penalties with accountability. Law and you know I feel for that kid. Because unfortunately you know throughout my childhood or Adolescence that was a routine week for me was two or three times a week. Having a gun pointed at the back of my head. you know as we're being pulled over in south central. Lay you know I. It's a shame that I could. That I could sit here and do the exactly team that you have to do when you're over a police we didn't get. Kill we see your license and registration. We got throw your keys out. The car puts hands out over the car door from the outside. So your hands backups slow. Get down on your knees hands behind your head, and then you heard Click Click. And that is traumatizing and the fact that I know that by heart still at forty five years old. really sad me that I know that, but it also shows that here. We are thirty years later, and this stuff is still happening, and things just got to change. David, phys Dale joining us here. Former NBA coach. Committee for Racial Justice and reform that the NBA has put together. We'll talk about that in a second but FIZ. What can we do? What can people like me? People who are playing in professional sports. People who are in the limelight people who have a platform. What can we continue to do? What can we do? That maybe hasn't been done to help this. Cause her one. We can't let just be a moment of outraged we had. THIS HAS TO BE A. To to when you dealing with the humanity of humor banks continuous effort. To make sure that we never let these things creep back into our society, so we have to keep a spotlight on what is happening in our communities and people that have a microphone, and his followers must continue to put the spotlight on this and the other thing that you can really do is get involved from from from a programming standpoint from a activism standpoint. Get with the N. Double ACP Urban League color of change. All of these black lives matter you know. Don't look at these organizations as like their You have to be this all out. You Know Gung Ho activists type of person. That's not what it's about. It's about sewing that you support them. And then you. You have empathy for the communities that are suffering ingest you know whether it's donating money or donating some time or donating your platform. To the cause, I think there are things that you can really do to help. David Fidel with us here phys so. You and the NBA Coaches Association. You establish this committee. It's yourself it's pop. It's Lloyd Pierce. It's Stan Van Gundy Steve Kerr. How did this all come about? you know Lloyd periods? Really really was the driving force behind this You know we also got J. B. Bickerstaff Brett. Brown and Quin Snyder. On it and Lloyd Really galvanized the coaches association, which wasn't hard because. You know one thing you can say about our coaches. Is We stand up for our communities? And then we stand up against injustice You know I in all of our all away. She was so annoyed. you know brought this association. Rick immediately recall allow immediately got us all Zolt call and and we began discussing real action steps that we can take association. To to really try to impact, change and I'm just really proud to be affiliated. You know the fact that Rick got me involved. Despite the fact that I'm not necessarily employed by team right now, you know it was really honor for me and to see all of these men put their heart and soul into this You know it's really moving, and it means a lot to me. That now I'm a part of this group, and I'm a colleague of these man, because these men that I could be proud to be around and and this guy's from all different races and colors. You talk about White Man. We Got Hispanic coaches. We have SPOSA. Filipino band, you know, obviously, we have black coaches. We got all different ages, and you know it's just really good to see that no matter what color age you are, we all feel the same way about it and so You know I think we're GONNA. Do some things that you know really can can facilitate some changes. Obviously, we're GONNA need a lot of help going to do a lot of collaborating with. Their for community leaders and people that really care about these issues of humanity and you know. Hopefully we can really. Do some good things. David still with us here, phys. You're the best man. Thank you so much. You're taking the time. Stay safe. Stay healthy, and hopefully we'll talk again soon. Buddy take care all right. Take Care of is David, Fidel with us here on the Sodano show on seven hundred ten. ESPN just powerful stuff man I mean! He nailed it.

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Hour 1: A Depressing Day

The Stephen A. Smith Show

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Hour 1: A Depressing Day

"The Stephen Smith show podcast is brought to you capital. One safercar earn four percent cashback on dining in detainment two percent of grocery stores in one percent of all other purchases. Now when you go out you cash in what's in your wallet terms apply. This is this even a Smith show podcast. Dan music. Good afternoon. Ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the latest edition of the Stephen Smith show coming at you, as I love to do every weekday over the airwaves of ESPN radio and ESPN news. You know, I'm in two hundred and fifty plus markets across the United States of America. Check your AM FM listing nearest you almost siriusxm channel eighty as well for one to three PM eastern standard time, you also know that this show, simulcast live over the national television, airwaves, ESPN news. Which means that, if you listen to the show, you know, the number to call is always, triple eight say ESPN. It's inundate seven to nine three seven seven sixteen. They spent show on ESPN radio's presented by progressive home insurance. Get your quarter. Progressive dot com today. Tom straight talk. Brought to you by straight talk wireless. Best phones, best networks, no contracts. The usually for the usually the usual fervor, the enthusiasm, the passion that I have that I bring today airwaves every time I'm on it as quite as far as I'm concerned. I'm a big compromise today. I'm a bit sad. Actually, I'm lying. I'm quite devastated. Because as much as I've been hearing. About how the New York Knicks could potentially end up empty handed. That reality has now resonated, more profoundly than it has in weeks. I'm pretty much hearing. It's done. Kevin Durant, and Kyrie Irving going to Brooklyn. My hope all of this time has been Cairo Kemper joining K, D M Madison Square Garden. And I'm hearing that. Stephen a. I know folks told you come to New York Knicks. Hell. They thought they will come into the New York Knicks. I know those same people said of the United five percent chance believe that five percent open because his K D, you never know. There's the dole in factor. There's the Brooklyn nets could foundation there. That's a factor. All of these things are true. And then as the weeks. Dissipated into days. And now days on verge of becoming a matter of hours with kyri urban have an opt out. Of his deal with the Boston Celtics, MBNA, arm restricted free agent, K, D opting out. It's thirty one point five million. He was all by Golden State. Opting out of that deal for next season. So he could be. A guy that. It was an unrestricted free agent. And both of them would be free to come to the New York Knicks. Now, we're hearing different news. News that we haven't that, that we've been hearing for weeks, by the way. But you just hold out hope that somehow some way, that it wouldn't be a strong level of truth to it that somehow some way, we would move beyond this, and then hearing that it's just not going to be the case. You still holding out hope if you're a Knicks fan, you still holding out, hope to somehow some way, the mind could be changed. K D has been a New York over the last few days, we have billeting in New York bat put on a walk in boot, and a little while give back to walk before, ultimately can someday in the near future give back to practicing and getting himself back in reminding us all wise, arguably the greatest player on the planet. But it appears as if whenever Katy comes back. It appears as if whenever K D starts playing basketball again. It'll be in a Brooklyn nets uniform. Not that of the New York Knicks the deadline is Sunday at six pm eastern time June thirtieth. And one could only hope that somehow someway K, D, kyri will change their minds kyri, re pretty much is done in everybody's eyes. It just hasn't been made official yet, but it's pretty much a done. Deal car is going to be a Brooklyn. Kimball. Walkers, not coming to New York either. My sources. Tell me cabinet. Kimball Walker has informed the Charlotte Hornets and Michael Jordan. He does not want to be there. He was offered a five year deal. It wasn't the supermax deal. He was qualified for it was somewhere in the ballpark of one hundred sixty plus million still about twenty million more than the Boston Celtics could offer him. But Kemba Walker is going to be a Boston. Celtic? That's what I'm hearing is not etched in stone, I guess, again, because you got until Sunday, these guys it always change their mind. But I can tell you that the Charlotte Hornets believe Kemba Walker is going to be a Boston. Celtic? They know that he's gone. He's let them know he's not coming back. He wants to win. He wants to find themselves in a winning situation and with kyri being gone, but Jason Tatum, and Jalen Brown and Gordon Haywood in Boston with Brad Stevens. The coach there's a better chance of winning in Boston. Then there is of staying in Charlotte in a winning. Either way you slice it Kim walking come into the New York Knicks. It appears Kyrie Irving is coming into New York. Knicks it appears that Kevin Durant isn't coming to the New York Knicks. We know that Klay Thompson, who is going to be offered. Five years. One hundred ninety one million dollar max deal at six pm of few seconds in it won't the clock. Won't even reach six zero. One sunday. We're in Klay Thompson, six eastern time three PM Pacific. It won't even reach six oh, one PM eastern time for Klay Thompson, nor for the five-year, max deal, by the Golden State Warriors. They lose ain't going nowhere. A New York next look at her bias, Harris. They look at Jimmy Butler. These are second tier guys looking for long-term deals. They ain't come in either. Go to New York Knicks. When all is said and done. At the end of the day. Once again, delivered us. Worst possible nightmare for free agency. They're going to end up empty-handed. And if indeed that is true because I still got three days three full days to pray to hit. Munnings and the privately-owned. Hope beyond hope that somehow, someway devoted kicks in. At a change will finally take place. That's advantageous for something associated with James Dolan. Still got three days to pry. Please for once. Basketball life. Grant me some good news about the New York Knicks even though James Dolan, is their owner. I'm trying. Still got three days to pray ladies jump. Still got three days to hope. But then look good. The good at all. Here we are. You know. I've got a pretty decent relationship with max Kellerman, and we'll K. Okay. Doesn't outstanding jobless right here on ESPN radio. Next Kelman's my partner in crime. I take. You know, we might but heads argue and bump heads and all that stuff debate show. This would you do. But the good guys, they really really are. But every now and then they could be coral. They can engage in a level of cruelty that I think should be alarming to us all. And they certainly made sure to do that to me today. Because knowing that the really has said it. Kate, did all likelihood is not coming. Mix and other is curry. Max and we'll K. Informed me of the news flash. That DaMarcus boogie cousins could end up being the New York knick on a one year. As if wasn't sick enough. No boogie cousins in New York. The hell is that gonna do for me? Better time patent gas Lauren my bloated belly rather than what to because Knicks uniform. The hell is that gonna do for me? Now, finish the boogie cousins. Couple of things and the interest of full disclosure. He and I don't like each other one bit. He don't like me at all. And feel as mutual. We ain't never spoken life, and we never will all likelihood. But I'm still not going disrespect this me when healthy he could play when healthy he averages twenty eight and twelve when healthy he's worth one hundred fifty million dollars, which is what he's practically been cost since he tore his ACL. Was achilles. I apologize. It's a miracle that he came back from it as soon as he did came back January. Eighteenth, everybody was telling me when we back for April. Boogie cousins can play. And this spike obvious distasteful, one another. Let me be fair. Because help a lot of teams. And if you are a championship contender, you should considerably boogie cousins. And you should pay him. Whatever you think he's worth, because if he were healthy, we talk and big Tom dollars, and the only reason why he might now warrant that right now because we don't know how healthy he's going to be. That's it. I'm not against boogie cousins being a New York knick because he's baffled room coach. That's a false report. I've never heard that about, and that wouldn't be fit him. I'm not going to tell you. I don't wanna be a New York because he can't play because that would be a damn law. I'm not gonna tell you that, you know what he was garbage throughout the NBA finals because that wasn't too. Yes. Some bad games as good games. He could pass. He was good defensively pick roles he was opposed presence. He puts the points on the board. Had about three good games out of the six in the NBA finals. One game for them as far as I was. He was the MVP today. My issue will boogie cousins being a New York knick. Is that what K D with kyri we're talking lottery, which need for? That don't do anything, and especially when you're looking forward to mega superstars come into New York City. I mean give us boogie cousins equivalent of giving us an injured Amari stutter my instead of the Brown. We know what it was supposed to be back in two thousand ten we all what it ended up, not being. I don't wanna hear about boogie cousins, because it brings ranked the wrong kind of memories. Amari instead of LeBron to hear that. I wanna see that experience it into a playoff team that will be different but they're not gonna be. Gonna happen gentleman, not the way of looking not the what I'm hearing. Just tough. Just a. And I know I tried to ward off layoff, you know, just thinking about. James Dolan is the owner. How detrimental he is. To the future this ranchos. Almost gets a point right now where I think that James Dolan lights being a pariah. He actually gets off of people talking about him and wishing he would go on makes them wanna stay more. Steve mills, Scott very I have no questions about their competence. I believe in their competence, I'm questioning one's ability to recruit, would a boss James Dolan. And I guess they can't be completely absolve either David physio came to New York. Got good relationships. Lebron Wade swear by him. Ends up. Not letting us one single free agent. How am I supposed to feel about that? I don't know how much Ables feel about that in all honesty. I really really don't. So I mean for me personally, I mean I just don't know. And I don't know where to go with all of this. I'm looking at the Knicks right now. And I'm depressed we spent so much time. We've talked about the Los Angeles Lakers. Rob lak-? Magic johnson. Jeanie buss. What are you doing there? Dysfunctional, blah, blah. They make one move. And they're my favorites to win the championship one move just like that. Same what we will about the Lakers, who missed the playoffs. All of the last six years. But the Los Angeles Lakers. They wanna title in the seventies. They won in the eighties. They struggled throughout the nineties, but still a quiet, Shaquille O'Neal, and draft. Kobe Bryant in nineteen ninety six. So even though they didn't win the title, they were relevant and they want everybody's radar. And after that, they three Peter with titles. Ninety nine two thousand two thousand two thousand one two thousand one two thousand two. Did their thing. Three painting. And then they went to little laugh because shack left. Kobe brought him back to prominence without chat three straight trips to the finals two titles. Over the last four decades. The Lakers have had titles. They've got sixteen championships on their resume. What are the Knicks to was the last one nineteen seventy three? Hi, was five. Five years old. I'm now more than a half ill. Over the last twenty years, the New York Knicks. Stewardship of James Dolan. Basketball, I said. Very. One could argue that really James Dolan's fall. He did high Thomas. He hired Larry Brown. He hired Phil Jackson. Guess intentions will. Right. Cut checks. Private jets everywhere takes care of his guys. But nothing seems to go right? With dismay when it comes to his basketball franchise, nothing. And then throws a free agency throw. Charles Oakley out of the arena. Ban. Some little kid because he wants you to sell team. End up in the news, and I'll to end up paying a fifty thousand dollar fine. Because you ban a reporter or a newspaper from an express conference, which is clearly against MBA rules. This level of pettiness petulance. While it may not be. The deciding factor clearly plays role. What would you say? What do we think? How do we feel? Say which one about genius bus in Los Angeles, Lakers. Even in the era of jimbo's. Even since daddy died him having missed the playoffs six times. They've always giving you a star. Tinseltown, purple and gold Laker tradition. Hollywood staple center, they've always giving you a star on the basketball court. You know who the Knicks star on accordance on a court? You know the Knicks star is. Spike Lee got courtside seats. And he stains, a lot of times during the games. So the at least you could see him watching the players run by. So you got. I haven't been the sad and longtime over basketball, personal matters. But over basketball haven't been sad and a long, long time. But I'm sad. Now. Hoping beyond hope. That can pray my way into a better situation. But realistically pragmatically doubting that will ever happen. I wish folks out there could cheer me up. But it was smart enough to know. You all. It. Eight say ESPN, it's seven to nine three seven seven six. You're listening lob. Stephen Smith show. ESPN radio. ESPN new. Yes. I said it is true. Kyri K, D probably Brooklyn Kimball Walker. Probably in Boston. We don't know whether koala is going stand around or go to the clippers we don't know whether or not Jimmy bell is gonna end up in Philly or go to Houston. We don't know where to buys. Harris is going to end up as well. And the only thing relevant about the New York Knicks free agency. Is that they may give us. Bogey cousins. You can't make this up. You just give this up. It an eight say ESPN, what does his show on ESPN radio? The minute, by the way, gentlemen, stop lounging around be active. Take your girl. I'll go to a game. All constant good. Tickets something baseball season, this heating up and the time is now the jump on those good seats. So for your ticket needs, look, no further than vivid seats. The official department of the SPN good of infacy dot com, promo code ESPN two. Ten percent off your first order. Get I go having experience fellas. Get to the game and use vivid seats. Don't just by seat. Get fifty. Get. Gods of until y'all. While now you gotta treat you lady impressive date nights short in, in a movie at home is great. I love the effort. You're putting in a cook. Delicious Dennis and finding a perfect rom com to watch with much appreciate it. And you wanna right track? But to have the mix things up a little bit. How about right now? 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Earn four percent cashback on dining into taint two percent at grocery stores in one percent on all the purchases. Hey, what's in your wallet? It eight say ESPN, it's inundate seven to nine three seven seven six. You are listening to the Stephen Smith show. ESPN radio ESPN news. This news about the Knicks and their situation is not the only thing going on. There are other things to take into consideration. The Philadelphia seventy Sixers are in news because Jimmy Butler, who I told you I report a couple of weeks ago. He had been talking James harden, and expressing strong interest in coming to Houston. James harden, expressed a strong interest in wanting Jimmy Butler, there, I have been on record saying. I think this would be disastrous. I don't believe that Chris Paul, Jimmy Butler, and James harden can. Coexist with Mike dantonio is the coach, I think, three of them can coexist. Without my dental is the coach. But with my dantonio coach, I only two of them would work together, the three of them. No way. Now, those personalities I don't think I don't think they're totally can handle it. I really really, really believe that. I think that's I think that is entirely entirely too much to expect. And I think that it's a disaster waiting to happen. That's my personal, personal belief. I'm backing up for that by one by one sec. Okay. So I think it's important to point that out. I think it's important to recognize that. All right. So that's point number one point, number two. Still not stop Jimmy Butler from expressing his interest. And if you look at Jimmy Butler, here's a reality situation. Ladies gentlemen, the Philadelphia seventy Sixers have as Burgas Jimmy Bulla has his birthright and Philadelphia seventy Sixers can offer him a five year deal for one eighty nine point seven million dollars. The most anyone else can offer him is one forty point six now understand something here. The second seventy six offer him five years, the Houston Rockets, or anybody else can offer him four years, even if the Houston Rockets, according to collect the boggling rules, what a workout a sign and trade deal for Jimmy Butler with the Philadelphia, seventy Sixers the most rockets are allowed to offer. Jimmy Butler is the four years at one, forty that's the most allowed to offer him the four years at one forty. Okay. They can't offer him more than that. They cannot do that. So because they can't do that. All right. All you could get four years, one forty. Jimmy bell. If he's willing to go to Houston is willing to lose fifty million dollars to be back in his hometown, Houston, or he was growing grew up near there. Okay. As opposed to the five years, one hundred eighty nine point seven million dollars. Now, this could all be leveraged. This could all be Jimmy Butler, try to ensure he gets five years from Philadelphia for the one eighty nine instead of four. Or it could be him saying, if the seventy Sixers are only willing to give me just four why not being why not be in Houston instead of Philadelphia. Here's an opposition of seventy Sixers. You can't go to Houston without hell. Because you don't have any cap space. So here's contract. We wanna keep here this town loves you. We love you, if you don't wanna be here, then leave on your own and get the money for elsewhere and go someplace else you don't really wanna go to. Because gonna be Houston because used to need help in order to work out a deal for Jimmy Butler. We ain't doing it all the Philadelphia seven you could say Clint cappella and every Gordon is worth Jimmy Butler. Is all up for grabs right now. If Philadelphia I keep Jimmy Butler, because it's not just about as game his personality who he is his willingness to hold everybody accountable, not by this tone. The work ethic he puts in excetera Jimmy Butler is made for Philadelphia that city. It's culture. He is made for Philadelphia. Made for it. Houston. So different ballgame. I got news for you. I Jimmy Boylan seventy Sixers have a better chance to go into the finals. Then Jimmy Boylan Houston Rockets. I really believe that. I don't think Houston, even with Jimmy James Auden and Chris Ball, beat LeBron AD. I don't think Houston with those three you can definitively say, we're beat the clippers koala and it was there. I don't believe that. I really don't. Because that's my reality. I think the Houston Rockets making colossoma say and I think there are more really needs to think about this. He's swing for the fences. That's what Darren more, we does. But of championships, our whole run. Down Moore's was striking. 'cause there's a whole speak up now. That's not entirely. I mean gin. Where's ball goes down game last year was to convert vinyls? Tour last five years, believe they're more in Iraq. It's been in the conference finals. I'm not trying to tell you that there are Maury isn't a damn good executive. And by the way, damn good, man. I'm not trying to say that would own sing is at think betting his stock on Dan, Tony to me if you're after championship Dan. Tony the way to go. Because he only coaches on one side of the ball. Now, if you talking about winning games being interesting if you're talking about all of those different things. If that's what you're talking about my attitude is this. Dantonio guy, you wanna win games. Get to the postseason. I'm all in dental ni you trying to win a championship. I so. Old. I'm just not so. That is not how I feel about my dental. I can't put it any simpler the net. Just can't do it. But that's me, by the way, our whole. Is expected to be pursued by the Dallas Mavericks, and ultimately people are suing that's gonna stop probably four years, one hundred million dollars. He's looking for more than one hundred ten I don't know if he's going to get that. But the likelihood is that he may end up in Dallas Kimball walk go end up in Boston. Kadian car. Ego end up in Brooklyn, the Knicks Endo we're close to nothing if not nothing literally. And the clippers we don't know what was going to do in terms of Toronto or the clippers. And I personally believe as an aside. That the ngelo Russell to the lake is would not be a bad deal for them at all. Did the ngelo Russell back in the Lakers uniform? Although he's still prone to stupidity from Tom. Tom. Trying to put them weed in a liquid bottle when airport the first thing they don't tell you to get rid of what they're going to check as liquid bottle. Bottom line is. LA after domino out swaggie p was. Vigeo Iggy azalea. Out his look at it, and I'm like, you know all of that's the past. Pursuing the championship with abroad, and ADA teammate. I think the ngelo Russell will be fun. If you can't get a Kimball walk all career oven, I don't mind going that route, if I'm the Los Angeles Lakers. That's basically everything going on right now. And we'll see what happens as this week in closes in on us. Let's go to Michael ally. Stephen, what's up? How you doing? All right. Speak up. Go ahead. Listen, man, the Knicks are making a great choice by just, you know, sitting impact and letting everything rock because I'll tell you the mixed got some talent that people don't know about Steve while no about, like what like Dennis Smith junior. He hasn't really gotten a chance to play last year. It was supposed to be his coming out party after injury. And what happens is Luca. Danni, comes and takes spot. But which is ballot you know, you know all star type of players, they cannot point guard, of course. Listen, Stephen gotta give these next chance. I think they're gonna put a product out there that is gonna make the playoffs. And I know that that's not good. I've been watching the Knicks. Did you did you just say that the New York Knicks the postseasons that would you even they Stephen? Listen. I'll make a deal what they make the playoffs. You give me a job. I don't want for free. I'm telling you, they're gonna make the playoffs. I have a great offer talent. Even I have I don't have a job to give them not an NBA team. But I, I. I'll put up put your name in the half or them job on a basketball team. If you make the next make the playoffs because that's the super something big if they don't get Kadian kyri. That's super stuff the real big. That's really step it out on a limb nam tell you that right now the important, I don't understand why people keep talking about curry, and they talk about Angelo Russell better than him. Head and shoulders on. Hold on hold it. You just said the Angelo Russell's better than Kyrie Irving, eighty one games. He plays. Holdover. Holdover. My man, this is when people get adult on. I'm wanting you before I do it. When I ask you a question answer, my question I. You just said the Angelo Russell's better than Kyrie Irving haddish shoulders. Have you call back. You call back another. You call back another day. I'll put you on ban. You from show banned from today show. Kobe later de ngelo Russell better than Kerry. And that's what this man, just hypocritically the ngelo Russell is better than Kyrie Irving. Okay. All right. And then, they'd say ESPN, it's inundate seven to nine three seven seven six. You're listening to even his show. ESPN radio ESPN is by the way, when you're hiring, you don't wanna waste time. So dozens of rela resumes. Do you want an efficient way to get to a short list of qualified candidates? That's why you need indeed dot com post a job. And it's set a screen of questions, based on your job requirements. The zero qualified candidates using an intuitive online dashboard this why three million businesses use indeed for hiring post job today. Indeed dot com slash Hiatt. Search for greatness, search indeed. Top of hour. Number two. Frank Sola will be on with yours truly right? Here was Stephen is radio is. Guess what? You're in the middle of Stephen swift show podcast. Dammit Smith show. The radio been news coming to you live from above the Hannigan river decade to your seventeen plus seats to a game. Download the vivid seats app into promo code champion. Check out to get ten percent off your first order. Don't buy just any seat. Get a vivid seat. Look equal I'm an equal opportunity. God. Personally speaking, I generally, like Steve mills. I, I love me some Scott Perry. He and I go back a very, very long ways and I have mad respect for David physio. Now that I think Dave physio should be the coach of the Knicks, no. But that was only had nothing to do a basketball. I thought more Jackson should have been the first selection because I thought the state of the New York Knicks was so bad that you needed a New York connection that could galvanize the fan base and convent's, folks. To support the New York Knicks because one of our very own was coaching the franchise and was going to be the face and a spokesman because we know that mills and Perry going to operate in the dock they can operate behind the scenes doing their thing. The person's gonna be front and center, talking on behalf of the New York Knicks every day is more Jackson. You see David phys Dale during the season pre and post game for the necks, whereas more Jackson, you see all year long because you're talking about a man of product of a park in queens started saying Jones, rookie of the year with the New York, Knicks Queens, New York native. That's what you talking about. But I got mad respect in love for David phys deal. I believe in this coaching ability. And if you wasn't gonna have more Jackson, he was my second choice. But when I think about this is not just about Dolan also about statements. What does this president amounts daughter, no president of the New York Knicks? He's been around now. Nobody gets absorbed for me by me when it comes to the Knicks, nobody. Steve mills. And I love Scott Perry. But in all fairness, we can't just be about talking about Dolan. Can't escape the fact that Dolan has critics. Nobody gets a pass. New York native. It's true and end up with nothing come this Sunday after trading. Kristaps. Porzingis. Nothing. Nothing nothing nothing. Brad, damon. You can't have the New York Knicks and nothing and Annette's ended told match superstars. The clippers the Lakers town. New York is concerned this ain't been the New York Mets the seventy. Which means that Brooklyn could be the team of the future in New York. Lord have mercy. Frank also up next.

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 3 - Chris Mannix and Doug ONeill (05-07-19)

The Dan Patrick Show

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 3 - Chris Mannix and Doug ONeill (05-07-19)

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We'll talk to Chris Mannix in a couple of minutes. He was there in Boston is at the last time. Celtic fans will see Kyrie Irving in a home uniform in Boston. Also what's going on with the Lakers? I guess Tyron Lou is just finishing up the paperwork to become the next head coach of the Los Angeles Lakers and did money Williams, turn down the Lakers. And what is a better job? I think the Phoenix Suns are better job right now because you're getting to coach and it'll be your team. I don't like owners. There. But if you're allowed in Monty Williams has the chance to be a a great coach he's coached before in assistant coach recently, and you're probably getting a top three pick. Maybe get John Moran. If you don't get Zion Williamson if you get Zion Williamson look out, but John Mirant with that young nucleus there. You got Aidan and Booker, and if you get John ramp, you're going to be fun, you'll be at least relevant and as for the Lakers and Tyron loon, this is LeBron James guy. And maybe he is the right guy for the team right now. Because you have what he get the job. If LeBron was not there and the answer is I don't think so we'll talk to Mannix about that coming up as well. The Dallas Cowboys are reportedly working towards a contract extension with Dak Prescott that would approach thirty million dollars annually Clarence hill. Junior of the Fort Worth star telegram reported. The update Tuesday noted the Cowboys have made more progress towards a new deal with Prescott than wide receiver more. Cooper whose demands have been shockingly high that in quotation marks hill also noted the Cowboys seem to be nonplussed about making Prescott the highest paid player in franchise history. I'd like to see one more year with Dak Prescott. But you know, what what's fascinating is. If I if I said the first year if I had his first year stats and the team results with last year. Let's say that they're coming off thirteen and three and that was Dak season last year. I think it would be a no brainer that the Cowboys would go. Of course, we're going to sign him up for, you know, max contract here. We want him to be our franchise quarterback there. I still have I have some questions about Dak. I don't know how much better has he gotten since his first year. Now, he's got a lot of talent had had a lot of skill position players around him. You still have Zeke. We've devalued the running back, but that was a team that lead with their running and that helped act Prescott in play action. You don't have Dez Whitten's back sort of. And you have a Maury Cooper. But is Dak Prescott a franchise quarterback. I think he I think he can be. I just I'm not sure I'm not sure yet. I'd like to have one more year. I'd like to have him play for that franchise quarterback tack that that he would be a thirty million dollar year guy. And I you know, maybe like Jimmy Garoppolo to me. I don't know if he's a franchise quarterback. Everybody tells me is he looks like he's a franchise quarterback. You know, Dacca's at least done something. I just don't know if where would Dak rank among quarterbacks right now in it. Maybe it's not fair. Because when it's your when you're next man up you're going to get paid and Dak Dax going to get paid by the Cowboys instead of going. Hey, can we get another quarterback in the draft while they're ready to win now? And that's why you have to pay them. You're ready to win. Now. It's not one of those. Let's get a quarterback, and let's rebuild your winning now and you have act Prescott. But where would Dak rank among quarterbacks right now in the NFL is the atop fifteen quarterback. Yes. Mclovin. He ranks fifteenth in passing yards last year with three thousand eight hundred five which is not that impressive. Good. Good rating though, twenty two touchdowns eight picks. But they don't pass it a lot. So it's maybe hard to tell. Yeah. Let's like Russell Wilson though. Seattle is a run first team and Russ still put up great numbers. I mean his touchdown interception ratio. And you know, selling at thirty four hundred passing yards last year. He was eighteenth impasse. Yeah. But roskin run, but they ask him to win games. Dallas doesn't s Dak to win games. Actually. But I would use Dak the way Seattle uses Russell. And have that two way threat the run pass option. Yeah. Polling, but does Dallas really have a choice. They've got. No. They don't. Yeah. What do they do like start over the fans would go nuts? You got the sky at an absolute bargain. You never really paid him a dime. So you you've paid them basically nothing. I do I have to pay him. Now, doesn't he have one? So I can't one more cheap year. Yeah. Let let's I I'd like to see what you can do. Maybe they think that they can get him over a long-term cheaper deal by doing it now than risking him. Having a very good your next year. And then being maxed out. I'm surprised. Maury Cooper is asking for a whole lot of. Money. That's another one where I'd like to see that. What she does. He have two years left. What's Amari Cooper's contract because he was a first round pick. I I'm curious because I'd like to see a little bit more from Amari Cooper as great as he was for Dallas, great pickup for them. But I'm just I'm not going willy nilly and say, you gotta sign Z Kelly to here. Yeah. Pull Mark Cooper got paid. Basically, very little the first four years. He's getting thirteen nine in two thousand nineteen and then he's an unrestricted free agent. And then you gotta pay Zico Elliott, right, mclovin. Yeah. Then. Yeah. Exactly. Just five four or five year cycles for rookies yet if you put all that money in Dacca, are you can have trouble paying the guys around them. Let's bring in Chris Mannix, the analyst for NBC sports, Boston senior writer for Sports Illustrated and at the garden last night. Chris thanks for joining us described the mood at the end of the game in Boston After the loss to the bucks. Well, I think it was a lot of shock. Disbelief. I mean that extends from the stands into the locker room. I mean, this was a game that Milwaukee looked like they were ready to hand over to Boston early. I mean, they struggled with three in the first quarter. They hadn't been doing that the last couple of games with nine minutes left. They only had twenty seven points. I mean Boston was in a great position to win. And then the third quarter comes around Yama Simpson foul trouble. And once again, the bucks benches ran over the Celtics and the energy just vanished from that lineup. And yet look this as I wrote last night. I mean, this was the return of the regular season Celtic like the same kind of indifferent defensive offensively selfish bunch that that that plague them during the regular season. And you know, we can go down and talk about different things, Dan. But this is a long this is on Kyrie Irving. It just is. I mean, he he spent all season, you know, basically. No downplaying everything that was. On on telling the media telling everybody, don't worry when the plants come around. We're gonna be okay because I'm here. Well, the last three games has been really bad. And and this is yeah. This is much on him as anybody else is that the last time the Celtics fans, see, Kyrie Irving. I dunno. It's it's too early to to say that because you know, a lot can happen in just the next couple of weeks not just in the postseason, but you have to see where the ping pong balls fall on may fourteenth. You know, if the Knicks wind up getting the number one pick that could affect Kyrie irvings decision. If Boston, you know, keeps the three first round pick and has that kind of nebulous Memphis pick for the future. That's an interesting pick to some teams that could factor into kyri decision, especially when it comes to potentially playing with Anthony Davis. So I don't think that you know, where you know. I I saw that that the camera angle of kyri walking alone down, you know, down the the hallway I don't think it's necessarily the last time we've seen him play in Boston. But. You know, if it is it it really is going out with a whimper. Yeah. There's a lot of fascination with what's going on in the east with some of these series. Because I I I get the feeling qui- is not there for the long haul. Toronto no matter what happens. Philadelphia with Brett Brown if they don't move forward. He could be have his job in jeopardy. You have what's going on with the Celtics? I mean, the bucks at where the best team regular regular season wise with best record. And I think this is maybe the series where people realizing they are great team. I don't know if they're, you know, talent wise, but they're a great team. And you know, Boston's should be better than Milwaukee in my opinion. But that's a credit to you know, what Milwaukee has done and what the Greek freak is done and as we move forward. But there are a lot of story lines in the east and not all of them are good. Now in with Milwaukee. There was a question from from a lot of people that I talked to throughout the season about whether or not they were a regular season team. And if they could compete in the playoffs and a lot of that came down to inexperience the fact that Chris Middleton was the second best player. The fact that they played brook Lopez like thirty thirty five minutes in a game and Lopez had a terrific regular season. But I was among the people that had concerns that you know, kinda the lumbering seven footer how are you going to be a factor and in game one of the series? Is it looked like it might be right because Al Horford feasted on Lopez and he couldn't make three point shots. But I'm watching the game four last night. Then there's Lopez making defensive plays near the rim on Kyrie Irving knocking down mid range jumper knocking down, you know, laps as he is. He comes up picking roles. He played really well in that game. But he's been a big factor in what that team has done. But they are they're complete. I mean, they're they're inexperienced, but they're a complete team that is Bill. Properly around a superstar like Janas who can just do do anything. I mean, Dan, he's he shooting like thirty seven and a half percent from three in the series. If he does that for the next few years and the regular season forget the re the MVP like just engrave it now and call it the Janas award because that's who's going to win it for the next four five years if you had to bet on one the Celtics win their series of the rockets win their series tall rocket. I I think the rockets are on Golden State's level. I was there was a lot of weirdness in those first couple of games in Oakland with the referee stuff. And James harden getting poked in the eye, but you know, when you what they've done back in Houston is a lot more of what I thought was what they were capable of. There's still you know in in a good spot by any stretch. They gotta win one game in Oakland. That's tough. But the way that James Harden's playing and you saw Austin rivers make shots last night. I mean this team you talking about complete teams like there. There is good as they were last year with this group right now, and they're they're more confident hungry than it ever have been before. Yeah. I made the analogy that Milwaukee I think is a better team than Boston. But Boston's more talented. I think Houston is a better team than Golden State. Golden State has more talent Dubai into that. Yeah. Especially with Golden State being as thin as they are in the rockets are deep team either. But you know, the guys they roll out there. They all seem to trust each other a lot, and yeah, I don't know what's going on with Steph curry is three point shooting. If it's the finger that's bothering him. But but something's gone haywire there with him in this series. And a lot of times. It's you know, they try to run a play. It doesn't really work, and I just get the ball Durant and ask him to make something happen offensively and Klay Thompson discombobulating the series to James harden has his number in the series. So yeah, I buy into that. I find more on the other side with with Milwaukee being a team and lost having the Taliban. Boston's got as much as anybody at least Eastern Conference. Maybe not the NBA it, you know, once again, we're looking at team that can't put it together. Won't yesterday on his podcast. I believe said that Mani Williams, I believe turned down the Lakers to take the Phoenix Suns. John. Do you think that Mani Williams did Monty Williams make the right decision? I think he did. And I've been saying for a couple of weeks now sons job was better than the Lakers job. And that sounds crazy because the sun's job has been a coaching graveyard for the better part of the last five years Roberts Arbor is like the James Dolan up the west, but but it it it's a job with a lot of upside and as wild as it sounds as maybe more stability with that job. I mean money Williams did the right thing getting a five year deal. I mean, I don't think he would have taken that job without a five year deal because you meet that security when his all that stuff going on behind the scenes, but they have James Jones down places GM, and he's a really really smart guy. And that's our there to kind of be guide in terms of learning. How to run a front office on? A day to day basis. And that was a smart move me one of the Lakers. I don't know who's making decisions there. I mean, rob blankets and charge. But Linda rampant is in meetings. Kurt Rambus is involved with this stuff. You've got a young team on the rise. And LeBron James needs to win right now. I mean, I understand like if the sun's wind up with the fourth pick AB it becomes less appealing with that slot. But if they wind up with one or two, and she was just as good for them because I think John Moran would be perfect playing alongside Devon Booker. If they wind up one of those top two picks their into their business. And I think money William saw that. You know, we we've talked about Anthony Davis in his destination in the off season. And feels like foregone conclusion he's leaving New Orleans, but you know, Boston can make a better offer than the Lakers are the Lakers. What else can they do to ramp this up, and then I wouldn't rule out the clippers here, Chris because I I mean, if you're the clippers why wouldn't you go after Anthony Davis? If you think you have a chance at quiet, Leonard. Klay Thompson doesn't work out a Golden State and just feels like the clippers are sort of there lurking waiting to make a really really big move there there definitely lurking. I don't know. The Davis is a priority for them right now. You know, what they see is a slot that a collide Leonard or Kevin Durant or maybe both, you know, they'll they'll probably pursue both will will fit into a wing position scoring slot that they badly need. And that they think that this team they have you put one or two of those players around them, and you might be the best team in the Western Conference next year. And you know, it's different with trains because that's going to be tricky, especially Boston really gets into the mix because we say this a lot, but you can't outbid Boston. If they really want somebody they're going to go and get him because of all the draft picks and young players that they have I don't think the clippers wanna get into that not when they have a really strong chance of landing Kawai or. Kevin durant? And but they're going to be maybe the most impressive team in free agency when they get in the room with guys because you're gonna have Lawrence Frank who's Uber prepared Doc Rivers who everybody respects, and and their owner is not a net negative as so many other owners are I mean bomber gets in the room and starts singing and dancing and tell them Tom how much money he's gonna spend guys like that. Like, he's he's kinda perfect owner for that situation. Throwing southern Californian. They're just gonna win when they get into these meetings. And I've heard this from a lot of different executive as like kind of ramp up for agency. They're going to be a force would they get into these meetings to the point where if you know borderline they're probably gonna get their guy. Well, so I bring out the logo to I have him slip into the meeting and say, oh, by the way, here's the logo Jerry West. It's it's him. And look, I know Lawrence is going to be incredibly prepared for this. And and you bring Jerry onto that makes me how you get beat that. I mean. Yeah. Like from last year, you had a couple of years ago yet they have it's five and you had you know, all. All the water is going out there. And that's that's really resonates with a player when you're that much star power telling you that that you want them to play there. But if you're looking for structure, and if you're looking for some kind of stability that the war that the start of the clippers offer it speak. They're they're built to win right now in both the roster and the front office who division with you Chris safe travels during the postseason. We'll check in with you soon. You gotta again, that's Chris Mannix. He's analyst for NBC sports, Boston and a senior basketball and boxing writer for Sports Illustrated update the poll results, they're mclovin. Most unstoppable player in the NBA, actually. Kevin Durant has run away with really? Yeah. Forty percent Durant than twenty-seven percent. Jaanus twenty-five percent heart and six percent, collide, Leonard comas playing better than anybody. It feels like statistically, and you know, offensively and defensively. Durant is the unstoppable because the end of the Greek freak when he gets to the hoop. He's unstoppable, but Katie can beat you inside. Out and he can beat you from three young. He would be the unstoppable guy. Yeah. Point does the NBA have a comeback player of the year award and his quiet Leonard gonna get it because he was kind of toxic at this time. Lash Mary wasn't playing a thigh-injury San Antonio didn't really want him. No could get a hold of them. I think there's was he was averaging sixteen at this time last year and played nine games. He's everything twenty seven and eight this year. I know there's it improved. I think PASCAL Siachen is affirmative for that. I don't know. Is there a comeback like the NFL we should check that like the Chad Pennington annual or the Chad Pennington win most improved a couple back. He was the first one to ever do it. I don't I don't find most. I find most improved in the NBA, but don't have comeback player. Here's another player that I was told keep an eye on where he ends up, and that's Kevin love. Kevin love will perhaps end up with a playoff team playoff caliber team and maybe out west. But I don't know what he has left. Still feels like he can fill a void with that three point shooting range. His how old is Kevin love see thirty. He in Westbrook came out same time. Didn't they? Yeah. He's thirty. Yeah. Feels like he's an old thirty how does that work when a player wants to come out of retirement and start playing they whoa. Wow. Wow. Desert-like league. They fire. Dial paper union. No, he actually played last is no he did not play place called Cleveland Cavaliers, they got a basketball team Cleveland. Yeah. Paul love played in twenty one games. Twenty two games. He ever to seventeen and eleven okay. What's he making twenty five million? But that might be a bargain. I if you you look at those numbers, she's sorry. Kevin love is making twenty four million this year twenty nine next year thirty one year after thirty one year after and then it goes down to twenty nine again, twenty twenty three. Hold on. Hold on hold that beer because I could show you Gordon Hayward Katcher. Oh, yeah. Nellie. Yeah. That might not end up. Well, I thought he had only two years left on his deal declined his option. He might he might have gotten out of that deal. Why I think he's gonna make more or maybe maybe declined and then resigned with them yet these pies, right? He's got some money come in. But g Hayward has thirty three big coming next year and thirty four nil after that each now Kiai low. Let's take a break here. Ichi alley. Each jalen. More on the controversy Churchill Downs. Our good friend and our favorite trainer. Doug o'neill? Join coming up twenty one after the hour here on the Dan Patrick show, by the way, the Knicks head coach David phys, Dale joining us in the man cave tomorrow. And I think he's going to help the danettes with their games because we are going to start a three on three tournament here. Three on three league with the danettes. Yes. Mclovin. Can I wish sweatpants smarter? Should we? Yeah. Coming athletic. Okay. Yeah. You can get your ankles taped. Whatever you need to have a trainer on site tomorrow. No, no. You know, I can get somebody in the back the big German kid can tape. You might want to have an ambulance on staff. The three three league that who would be the number one seat because the best player in the building all four danettes are going to be the captains of their teams. I'm the Commissioner the danettes are going to be captains the draft. I'd like to have it next week. If we could hear rumors that way too early mock draft was just released as of about an hour ago. Of what these rosters are shaping up to me and to fill the teams we have guys who work in the building boys in the back. The camera people. Everybody wants in on the three three on three league. Yep. Point two days in back might be the one seed of the players in the buildings kind of like a Dennis Scott of Georgia Tech a lot of range little thick little beef. Oh, yeah. Really slow, but he could play ball really slow like Dennis, Scott Kabbal. I think he's he's more of a Kevin love now. Kevin love. Yes. Mclovin. He's a beefy guy. He is. Yeah. I would call it a big board. It's just a board for us. It's what you are you the number one seed or seat number one shoot Andrew is by far. I you're. Your patio buckets, man. That's true. That is. I mean, you evolve ill it up you fill it up. I would like to get ahead of Cedeno, and they get that to pick. We're talking like a drop off between like Eric and Tyler well proportioned, she's going to get the number one pick is he a why is he considered because she's the worst out of all you? I'd like to make I like to make the case that I'm the worst shooter in the building including fritzy. So I should have the number one pick now that no I know what you're doing Pauline. You're too competitive to admit that you're the worst shooter Todd we played one on one. And I lost a Todd Todd. Did you meet you beat six six years ago? I think it was tied for awhile. And then I flung up a crazy tied at zero far out. This is what's going to happen? We'll play the you guys have to play first guy to three here while I know exactly I guided three we'll get the number one overall pick the winner gets a winner not to lose her. Even though you probably think the loser deserves. Well, how do we do that? So we can't tank that game. Then I gotta decide I we'll take a break here. We'll come back, right? After this on the Dan Patrick show in sports at trade can make or break your team, a good one community championship. But a bad one can set your franchise back for years. It's no different when it comes to selling or trading in your car, you need to make good choices. And with truecar. You gotta star on your roster. Just go to truecar enter your license plate number and watch. How your car's details? 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So credits all those great horses and great horseman to get them there. And yeah that was a crazy race. And you know, probably one of those things if you talked to fifty people twenty five ago one way and twenty five or go the other you've gotta went really either way on it and tough way to lose the derby for sure what did you see, but you would you detoured maximum security? I probably wouldn't have but 'cause country house a horse. They moved up wasn't affected by maximum security. But at the same time, excellent scaredy did shift from something and and took the path of the number one horse. And I thought Tyler gaffes Leoni on him. Just. Did an unbelievable job of fan on. And you saw how amazing athletes he's jockeys. Our? And so, but you know, I I could see where if you're, you know, you're going to go by the rule book, I could see where you could take maximum securities number down. But it didn't I was talking to a couple of top jockey at never talking about. You know, you don't always officiate a normal NBA game. Like, you would have gained seven of the NBA championship and you quote unquote, solve the whiff for a little bit. And I thought maybe they would let that little shift. Go the fact that it didn't really affect the horse. They moved up ahead of them. That's what I wanted to know. And I thought that there was a little bit of leeway because you have nineteen horses and you have those track into conditions. Doug that I mean, do I think something happened? Yes. I do. Did it have an impact on who won the race? I don't think it did. And they're therefore give. Nineteen horses and you have those conditions. I wouldn't have called anything on it. I kind of agree. And I think that's the beauty of having a nineteen or twenty four fields. Is that the best source of always win? It's the worst that you know, has the best trip and gets the luckiest journey around there. And watching these the top riders gonna world navigates these amazing horses around there in a big field. It's it's awesome. And I agree. I really thought they should've left alone. But I can understand why they did what they did. And you know, I think the sewers probably needed maximum when they were walking to their car after the racist. If you're the trainer of our owner, I should say of maximum security. Would you be fighting this? I wouldn't I you know, I can see. I can see why he want him and wife or upset, but you know, again, I think it's. It's easy for me to say because I I've been lucky enough to have won the derby ended. There is no crater feeling. So, but you know, I think he's got some great horses. He's a great owner. You'll be there again. And you know, you feel for the Jason service foreign to you know, what a unbelievable job from the groom hot Walker the excise writer everybody in the barn to to to. He was definitely the best source that day, and you feel for them. But but insists more the jockey doing what if the horse just does this. Or did you think the jonky did this? I think it was mainly horse. And and I'm not sure what he shied from. Whether it was the noise of the crowd or a little, you know, standing water somewhere there that kinda spooked away from a little bit. But yeah, I think it was mainly and he was kinda in control of the race. So those horses that shift a little bit behind him. I thought maybe could have kept their position if they would. To say back a little bit or or you know, they were kinda right on his on his bed their horses head right on his hip a little bit, which you know. I would say could be something they might not have wanted to do in those conditions. But at the end of the day, thank God, all the horses and jockeys came back safe. And and you know, you just really feel for them and credit to Bill Maher and his team for what they did with country house. And and you know, it'll be interesting as we move forward watching all these nineteen horses where they go from here. Would you have wanted to win under those circumstances? Oh god. I wanna win. No matter what. That is awkward, you know, you wonder what that winter circle picture on their walls gonna look like they're obviously going to you know, delete the maximum security. Probably they're gonna do some photo shop in there. But you know, I think just the whole build up and getting worse in the derby is just such a thrill, and you know, to to have a horse runs second and get D queued up. You gotta just be, you know, just so pull a joy and and and excited. Hopefully, he comes back and runs huge Preakness nettle really validate, the amazing horse is he's not running in the Preakness. Country house all country houses, I'm maximum security is not I know, and I think that is partly I bet ya. I think Mr. Gary west is just probably wanting to sit out a little bit and not wanting to bring him back over there in two weeks. But I wish you he would it would be great to feel to horses hooked back up for the Preakness. What's the craziest thing you've ever witnessed either you know during a race or after a race at the track. But I mean if see jockeys getting fights after the race. That's always entertaining. That's a fun to see. The. You've seen horses coming down the lane head to head and one reach over and bite. The other one was doing Lucas had a great. Of course, they Marfa that was known for biting competition. So I see some some wacky things. Someone reminded me that I think it was eighty six thirty seven that bet twice bumped Alysheba few times down the lane and Alysheba finally got to lead in one race or or that or that would have been one that might have got d queued up if that twice would have faith in front of Alysheba. So that it's a it's a great race for so many reasons, and yeah, just really feel for the team service and team west Doug good do check in with you. Hope you're well. And we appreciate your time anytime. Thanks for having me, Dan. Thanks, Doug, O'Neill, two-time Kentucky, Derby winner. Jeff in Detroit joins us. Hi, jeff. What do you have for me today? Hey, what's going on just piggyback on what you just got finished talking about? First of all the interview with Jose Jackson was out of sight out of bed. Dan, you hear with the host thing Jackson junior. How no. And I figured if he's doing I'm gonna be pissed dating. A man. I love that brother. Thank you. Let me ask you this question. Would you rather be maximum security owner 'cause I mean from not one this is all we're gonna be talking about in reference to the two thousand nineteen the guy wins little this and hundred or forty five years, it's never happened. Or would you just rather have not place to show at all? Because my thinking is all the maximum security loss. He's still gonna get people interested in studying fees, and that was fine. A hell of a race. Just thank goodness for we'll drive. Yeah. Yeah. I was I was fine with that. Thank you, John. I be fine with being the owner of maximum security. He had the best tours and still undefeated in my opinion. And and, you know, maybe the owners just you know, I probably need to cool down a little bit. And I don't want to benefit the triple crown by going to the Preakness here. Maybe I go to the Belmont. But it gets the feeling, you know, the things that he said about Churchill Downs and the Kentucky Derby on his way out certainly be interesting to see how he's greeted if he has a horse coming back there again. Yeah. Polling Dan after thinking you want and then you lost that as a long private jet, ride home. I mean that is what you're still on a jet though, and you're billionaire like there are longer plane rides that I've taken not on a jet, and I'm not a billionaire Australia. Once what's that twenty our twenty two hours in what are you back? Then there's you bring a book or a magazine. You went to see Shawn, Bradley or something. Yes. The the former NBA player shown, Bradley, he was on his Mormon mission in Australia, Sydney. And I thought it would be great to watch a seven foot six guy go door to door in his black suit. And that was a long flight because it was I went Connecticut, Chicago LA, Sydney. And then on the way back Sydney three hours out engine blew fly back three hours. Then wait three hours for another flight to go to Los Angeles. Missed my connector back at his day over in Los Angeles connected back to Chicago, then to Hartford. Yeah. But Sydney was the hottest the hottest son. I've ever been around. I don't think they had they have an ozone layer. It's the it's the hottest son of ever been. And I was outside. I got there to my hotel, and I just outside, and I had somebody come out and say, you know, you better you better put on some suntan lotion mate to like Dubai or something. Right. It it scorched me I was. I was like oh my God. And I was only out there for an hour and. But I wasn't even in the sun. I'm sort of around the sun, but that's the hottest son I've ever been in. And then they had this. I I think it's Bondi Beach and the kids look like they had man as on the the suntan lotion was so thick like it could have been SPF like five hundred or s SPF Irish because that's these kids had so much suntan lotion on and the scenery, by the way spectacular. If you know what I mean Bundy beach spectacular. I think I stayed an extra day just because I wanted to make sure I went back to beach one more time just to make sure as journalist that the scenery was that good. That helps loan into thing was just a ruse. Yeah. But yeah, we we've and I flew coach back then. Imagine coach to Australia. Yeah. Well. That's a long flight. No matter what. But. Yeah. Coach at least it went middle seat. It's always always window. So I'm right on the window, and I can see the black plume of smoke. Come out. You just because I'm with a woman who never been on a plane before and she's so nervous, and she's actually gripping my forearm. And then she said what was that? I, and then I said that engine blew she goes are we going down, and I go I don't think there's going to be an announcement for those of you passengers on the left side, you probably saw that black plume of smoke. We've lost one of our engines. But we have three more on the left is the Sydney Opera House. Right. We're about to go down in flames. Then we go back have to wait for other flight. And then we head back. But I saw Shawn Bradley a couple of what was that a month ago six weeks ago in the airport in? Salt Lake City coming through and I hadn't seen him in a long time. And I just you know, you see a seven foot six guy. I said, Sean, and then he turned around he goes down. And you know, it's like, hey, he had his family with him. I said I did a story on him when he was still in college at BYU selling posters the down on his luck. Or you're just kind of passing through why take a shot down on Brennan. Poster. Isaiah we get it. Why why are you doing that? Nobody had more posters than Shawn. Bradley. They weren't of Sean. They weren't they weren't called the Shawn Bradley poster he was in the poster being post rises what you're trying to trying to get. Okay. We have to come up when I come back of you. And paulie one on one on who gets the number one pick in the three on three league that we're gonna have here in the man cave. I gotta figure this out because if you beat poli you're not the worst player in the building or worst of the Dennis. Yes heating now. I'll save it. Okay. Save it because I got to come back because I'm not sure. How to do this? Because if you win the lottery, you can be the word like the Knicks if they win the lottery, then they get to win the lottery, I think I got it. Okay. All right. Good. All right. We'll come back. We'll close up shop the Knicks. Head coach David phys day will join us here in the man cave tomorrow. That'd be fun to help the danettes with their three on three league. All right back after this. Guys may fighter shale Senate. Check out my podcast. You're welcome with jail son in every Wednesday and Friday right here at podcast one. We cover the latest in mixed martial arts and everything else. Going on in the world of sport. Listen free to your welcome with jail, son and exclusively available at podcast one dot com and on the podcast one at if you love the show share with a friend and leave us a rating and review. Stay tuned for sixty seconds of eight me news headlines right after this podcast. 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Answering each other back and forth and back and forth. Surprisingly going in. Yeah. They were and it's now PI to PI. And then after the show, I think we do this on Facebook live. This will be for the number one overall pick for today's poll hit a huge hook to answer. Vital. Did. Yeah. He did. I mean, these are these are two great athletes to warriors out there. And if you're you're watching on Biard live or audience, you can see some of this. Yes. So the person who gets p I g. Loses and they get to pick. No today's they get the second pick. The the the better player is getting the first pick the better. The the winner of pig is getting the first pick. See, okay. Because I can't because then you could I'm trying to give you incentive to perform as opposed to like the Knicks. They didn't have incentive, and then they might win the lottery. I don't know how else to do it. This is going to be really interesting because Paul is a much stronger passer than Todd who apparently doesn't realize that part of the game. You have to give it yesterday. Let the other guys your team employees always a better player than fritzy. Terrible shooter. Yeah. Yes. Well, you know, I am a terrible shoot. I I'm aware of my basketball ability. I can't shoot. So I try to help my teammates and can pass and you can play defense and he's physically rebounds already. Well, you guys have been very kind. I mean, we're comparing you to Todd. Yes. Thank you. I don't know if this real compliment. Yeah. No offense. No. If you're if you picked up your dribble. I was your man and get you the ball back. You give them getting back to you. All right. It comes down to whoever wins pig. It's the number one overall pick and that will be today's. Yes, mcleod. There's some chatter in the back that Mario is a Djalmir anti who can better complement one of the two players twos is more of an outside player. Mario's like a bruising inside yesterday afternoon. When you guys went home, I came back just to check it on Tuesday. And Mario they were working out together. Yeah, they change. Clothes. I thought they were shooting. They were shooting hoops at working on their games who's less likely to expect the ball in terms of passing. That's that's that's the direction I need to figure out as before you got to feed two days. I mean, that's your go-to guys your machine, he's your grant. He's your heart. And I think you're hardened. You want wanna be your left handed governor step back hook shot? Yeah. And not many people do the step. Yeah. It is to is to is tarred. Twos. Is Todd's harden? Sounds unfair. That sounds. Illegal Twose's Todd's harden, big show tomorrow, David phys, tail the Knicks head coach will stop by the man cave, and he will assess the games of the dannettes coming here. Yes office is pretty what you learned today. Klay Thompson, and to a certain extent, Draymond green. Always get credit, but never seem to get blame. Mccloughan learned about Amy action. Jimmy Jackson, minus the Jay. Seton O'Connor would you learn Chris, Chris Mannix, no-doubt made statements that will haunt him for years. Just log as you're recording. All what did you learn antics? He honest intertwined what we learned brought to you by the great folks at truecar Karsh op and can be confusing terms like dealer price list price, invoice, truecar shows you would other people paid for the car you want. So you recognize a good price when you're ready to buy a new or used car? Visit truecar enjoy more confident car buying experience. Thanks for the phone calls. Emails tweets all around support for fritzy. 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Hour 2 - Michael Rapaport (11-14-19)

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Hour 2 - Michael Rapaport (11-14-19)

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Clearance Register lane items zips APP stop and jewelry in this. Is Dan Patrick. Our two on this Thursday Dan and the Danettes. Dan Patrick Show got a big game. Coming up tonight steelers and browns feels like it's a whole lot more important for the browns than it is the steelers and if you're Freddie Kitchens disavowal any knowledge of a prior tweet. That was sent out that all all of the previous Cleveland. Browns coaches were fired after a loss to the steelers. I think it's six and counting. I don't know of Freddie joins that list. If he loses this is tonight I would hope he doesn't lose his job. I'd like to see him. Play this out for a season. See this if this team doesn't prove if they figure this out but it just doesn't seem like they can put together in entire game consistent game plan for offense and defense but against the steelers who are playing extremely well after being left for dead winters four in a row and they're underdogs tonight in Cleveland. Eight seven seven three. DP show email address GPS. Dan Patrick Dot com twitter. Handle with DP Pichon say good morning to our radio and TV partners. Baseball's quiet on the Astros. I guess if you rob Manfred and you're the commissioner. Maybe you try to let this story die as best you. Can you know. Football weekend is almost here football tonight. And you could. Kind of leaded edited similar a little bit and we had one day about rage that we had one one day. I don't know if you have the same outrage aged today now. You might be outraged if you don't get any answers from the commissioner because now we're starting to find out that there are more instances instances of them the astros cheating now they're naming players they're naming there's moments in the world series in two thousand seventeen where to who hitters reportedly benefited and hit home runs Alex Bregman and George Springer where you could hear the the garbage can in being banged into twice and then they ended up hitting home runs. So there's a there's a lot more attached to this and it could feel like there's some people well whose jobs or at stake because of this and if you're the commissioner you want it to die down a little bit but it's GonNa come back it'll it'll come back if it's not now it'll come back during spring training and there's going to be. I think what's going to happen is the less that's done the more outrage wjr from other fan bases because they're going to say wait you need more will find more and now you have people going back through the archives with the Astros Astros Games including those playoff games the astro the dodgers were told about the astros the the nationals were told the Yankees mm keys were told which is interesting because if you're told in you know they're doing this then change your signs now. Do I think that the astros throws what they did. Reprehensible yes I do because this isn't you're standing at second base or third base coach is GonNa notice where the Catcher is set up or I can send a signal I'm not you. I'm okay with that but if you're going to use espionage to help your team then I have a real problem with it and I would find find them a whole lot of money and I would probably call for somebody's job and I would take away Dr- baseball teams love. Their draft picks take away. Those draft picks the opponent but the person's awesome job. You would call for we'll be. Aj hinch the manager correct. He is the boss of that team. Competitively this is a competitive violation. This isn't like salary cap. This isn't the no just saying if you're saying someone that's lose their job at can't the bullpen. Catcher is that means. They're not going to punish them and we're also talking about this. Were College Sports Sports. You'd be not bowl eligible for the next year. Imagine if that played in professional sports where you weren't playoff eligible as punishment. They ever done that to a team like they didn't even do that. The one thousand nine thousand nine hundred black socks like they didn't say your playoff in eligible players players got banned back then the teen in didn't but whoever is the guy in center field who is got the camera there. I probably start with him. But he's under orders from somebody I don't know if he went rogue and go. Hey don't tell the skipper this but I'm I'm going to keep an eye and then I need somebody to go to home home depot and get a garbage can and don't get. I need a metal garbage if their nicknames are the hammer and the spotter. We're going to know what's up the deflator. Yeah remember. That is seat doesn't appreciate our New England Patriots. Humor that deflator so stupid. Deflate Gate is the dumbest one of them deflate gate. It's the dumbest man at least in spy gate. They're actually taping things. They're just doing it from the wrong spot. And that's why people should understand about spy gate. You can videotape. They did it practices. You just can't videotape from an area where the Patriots videotaped so it was a technical violation and we make it seem like you know this was surreptitiously recorded here here and yes mclovin. That's one version story. We've seen tape. We've never seen the tapes which were mysteriously destroyed. Yeah I remember. I asked the commissioner or that he reacted like I was crazy I go why. Why would you destroy the tapes and he goes to the cases over? There's no need good for him. Like okay was that the last time the commissioner was on by the way never accident. How dare me ask good question like that? Close dance too close. I think like the Loch Ness monsters on those tapes of the wild. Speaking of Bella. Jack Belichick was asked since they play. The Eagles. This weekend bell check was asked about looking back on that super bowl loss to the eagles. There's some similarities. I'm Larry Matchups there quite a few differences. But that's worth looking at. That's actually a little more detail than oh I thought you get from ballot. Check almost a full answer from Bill Belichick. Almost like he appreciated the question almost. Yeah there's some simmer much there might Likud Brady. Says he's still not over it. I don't care how many you win. You're never over your losses. You're just not because he looks at that as a lost opportunity to add even more he doesn't look at these ones that he's one and said boy. I'm really fortunate in some of these that I probably shouldn't wouldn't want him but I did. You look at the ones where you go. Yeah I should have won that one too young mclovin. I don't think the eagles are over celebrating. That super bowl either. You know what what I mean. Yeah this is a big game for them to they need it. They win. Got To win. This and you know Dallas is not separated themselves and you know this could be a lost opportunity for Dallas because this isn't a great eagles team it was to start this season. They aren't now Dallas. Should be a very good bordering on great team in my opinion poll cowboys are at the Lions. Who are much better than their record? That's easy for the cowboys at the Lions but back to the answer is I don't know of major usually baseball's put out a statement. Did you guys see anything on this. I don't think baseball is done anything. And we've asked for the commissioner and You know he's unavailable which you know. I don't blame him because I I would say look I if you knew about this. How does Mike fires the former Astros pitcher go to the Oakland A.'s? And then tell them and then all of a sudden in he ends up talking to Ken Rosenthal and then this explodes baseball had no idea about this none whatsoever now I know that it. It sounds more obvious. It looks more obvious when you see these individual highlights here now. We know it's coming. I don't know if you're in the moment. And you hear somebody somebody whistle because they were also whistling for pitches. If you hear the you know a garbage can being banged into twice. That's going to get my attention. Do not a whistle but the garbage can and I can't imagine. Aj hinch not saying if he didn't know about this. Hey can and you knock it off back there with a garbage can right discount incense you would think here's the manager and you're just hearing thome thome maybe they're practicing That Broadway show stomp. Maybe that's what it was. WHO's on stomp out there? Yes yes it's kind of a dark question but if you're the gentleman's or the people around the Astros in Aj hinch obviously a very good manager important to your success. You collectively get together and protective protecting and lie and let someone else take the fall because if if AJ hinch knows about this which. I think everyone thinks he must have as the manager of the team then he could lose his this job. Yes it's a chance. Well he might be suspended right. Because I don't think baseball can fire you. Okay you can't. It would just be hard suspension. I'm guessing would you lie if you were. Aj hinch and he was guilty. Would you lie. Yes and I don't buy this. Hey if it's only cheating if you get caught no no. It's it's the technology part of this. You you are. You know you're cheating if you the naked eye it's fine that's part of baseball but you're cheating. Oh you got caught cheating you got caught yes see. I like that baseball though in terms of fines and penalties and stuff goes directly from. It's going to cost a couple of dollars. You're going to miss a couple of games to banned for life. There's there's no in between you're either GONNA miss a couple games or are you going to miss every game for the rest of your life. You're completely out no. You can't get fired. He can't get anything. Do you treat it like first time offender of steroids. Like do I sit you down. For what Sixty Games is it. Something like that. Is that that Harsha penalty because baseball doesn't want commit that. It's that big of an issue because if you do then all of a sudden you're GONNA go. Do we take away. The Astros Astros World series time. Like what do you do you. Don't you can't vacate things. This isn't like the final four where we vacate Memphis is final. Four appearances or Villanova. Many years ago back in the seventies yes mclovin you know I hate to say I said yesterday to like eighty hinch is supposed to be a little phillips. Hebrew Hoffman moneyball. Where the Front Front office is making shots? Like if L- now gets off the hook here the odds of him not knowing are also like maybe it's not just a manager. It's the whole team like that's I. I would blame the guy. They fired a month ago. But I don't think like this comes from the top. There's supposed to be a very controlling front office if you likely they would know this was happening to me. You know sued. Is it possible that baseball doesn't want to get into this too much in his happy to let it die down and they'll just sorta figured out because everybody's doing it. I don't know if everybody's doing do we really. I think the Astros are the only team figuring out. What if we used to cameras still sign? No because the red sox stood it. I think you're looking for an advantage there. But that doesn't exonerate where you go. Well everybody sort of doing it. You know we're now saying this is a world series team who's won a world series lost a world series and where a a given an unfair advantage here. And now I'm GonNa now I'm going to watch. I'M GONNA listen to baseball. I may not watch it as much. I'm GONNA listen a whole lot where I'm just GONNA go got a garbage cans here. No must be. Yes Paul. What if baseball removes this all together? The whole concept of stealing signs that has the pitcher goes soon as wind up the PA guy goes fastball. And everyone in the building knows what's coming. I gotta increase scoring right there. I'm okay with that in bad flips. If you WANNA do that here comes the DEUCE. Yeah I mean nine eight games would what are they wear in poker. How about do do we get to the point where you're wearing one of those sensors that like it'll tell you it'll tip you off when you know somebody's helping you give you an unfair advantage when you're you're playing poker? Yeah like you saw in the movie Casino Vegas Cheats with Blackjack and other games would wear sensors on the body of their clothes and someone spotting a deck say like untapped up to you and you hear eight bombs on your leg and that means deals got eighteen. Yeah that to me. I'd be more impressed with if if if the Astros were doing that. Where you had a sensor where it's attached to your body and all of a sudden it's due to and then you know that that's going to be an off speed pitch? I don't know were you attach it. You gotTA hide it though. Yes mclovin remember we talked about. It was big poker scandal last month. Were Guy Somebody was watching the live stream of of the show and he had a center I in his ankle they founded then. He put one in his hat was any impulses to his. Like exactly where you guys are talking about. This could be done you know. I don't know why they had such a primitive system. Yeah maybe that's runs up if we thought about that. Well I don't and once again I'd have to go back and start listening to baseball games and listening for garbage cans slider gone. We want to take away. Every advantage of pitcher has we're going to treat them like NFL. Defense is just overlander. Jacob degrom decent seasons here. Congratulations congratulations from now on. You have to say before. You're ready to throw what you're going to throw known as the called pitch era. Yeah yes and Burland are ready to get into the wind up fast. Baugh guns Oh yes mclovin by Carlos Carlos Beltran the new mets manager. Heavily involved in this cheating scandal. Bring it to New York now. Did he know about it. That's what they're saying that he was one of the. I don't know if he banged the drum but he was on. That staff show was cora they were both on seventeen and the red sox world series taint. Ain't it feels like how many teams Dan do. You think are actually doing something like this. I don't know I would not want to indict everybody here. This isn't like steroids where we said. I think it's easier to tell you the guys who aren't using steroids. I I don't know if it's the same when it comes to teams with with cheating. I don't know I hope not. We had somebody who just tweeted tweeted. What if baseball punishes the Astros? You take away the draft picks and then you send those draft picks to the teams who were affected by cheating by the Astros. I don't know how many draft choices you have because you might be sending it to twenty nine teams or whatever we'll take a break. What's poll question? We're GONNA we're gonNA stay urban Meyer. I've a couple of other OPS. Okay got through this out. You Got Cleveland. We don't know what's GonNa Happen to Freddie Kitchens. USC is always been rumored there. And if you're urban Meyer I had a source who tweeted me when I brought up this topic. And he said Urban Meyer might be the greatest recruiting head coach. That we've ever seen that. He he really really loves doing. He's good at it. Great at it but is that a reason why that he would want to go back into college because it is a great advantage for him. So Urban Meyer or woody coach the Cleveland Browns we just I don't know it was kind of a whimsical. Poll question to throw out there We'll come back. Do you have another one mclovin. I do after the break. Okay all right I also WanNa you know the Knicks play tonight and I don't know if there's any drama PORZINGAS comes back to town. Reggie Miller will be on the call with Kevin Harlan that game on TNT. And the whole Knicks situation. There are two and nine and I think the quote was nixed management needs to show progress to keep jobs. This is sports. New York says S. N. Y.. So you gotTA show so. This isn't just. There's David phys deal. This is everybody in the front office. WHO's on alert? Yeah Paulie your next have Dallas but then they have Charlotte and Cleveland. You would think they could get a winner to here. Yeah but didn't and they just lose to Cleveland Yeah of course and Chicago and Detroit and Sacramento and Boston Orlando and Boston and we'll take a break of phone calls you're welcome eight seven seven three. DP show email address DP. Dan Patrick are you hearing from people in Houston after your James Harden. Yesterday they are so mad. They're like why are you being a hater later but it people in La love it. They do not like hard. I've I've great appreciation for him. He's just he's rigging the system he's taking advantage of the system and he's doing it brilliantly. Absolutely all right coming up on one thousand nine after the hour. This is the Dan Patrick. Show if you're like me and you WanNa play I sports until you're really old. You WanNa play basketball every Saturday morning. Then let me tell you about Thera. Gun to hand. Held battery operated professional grade percussive therapy device. Ace helps alleviate pain improve mobility and enhanced performance. The thera gone. It's easy to use handheld device that helps relieve tension and increase blood flow. They're gone percussive. Therapy is unlike any massage device. You've ever tried designed by Chiropractor it's therapeutic for all body types excrete every part of the body. I use it the helping my hip injury. 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I do want to put up. Also who's at what point the season whereby eleven games in WHO's coming out of the West. The Lakers Clippers rockets. Who would you say right now? That's good at made me laugh hard and you know what the worst part about it is. He's too good into like you can't hate on his game. Blows by everybody hits every shot you know what don't jump off this this bandwagon fouling fouls on harden. Yeah fight the good good fight now. It's too much smoke too much. Heat these rockets fans are to mean. Yeah but you're GONNA play to the L. A. Crown L.. Lsu Houston hate you by Patrick Beverley on the other hand. He's a whole lot of trouble to the ultimate Thanksgiving challenge. It's on the food network. Six of America's best chefs begin their journey to becoming the crown ultimate Thanksgiving challenge champion. Giada dealer Rentis we love. She sets up the challenge there. Are you got expert judges. Let me see you got Jesse Palmer is your host here. You got it all twenty five thousand Grand Prize as you got a lot of men candy involved in this. I was mentioning the Knicks. And they got the maps come into town tonight with Porzingus and just saw this headline the Knicks management needs to show progress to keep their jobs. So this this went from David phys deal. I think I need a glass of water here drinking drinking drinking cough button. Yeah Todd Eh. Knicks management needs to show progress. So this isn't David Phys Dale. This is the front office there feels like with the Scott Perry the GM and the team President Steve Mills. Apparently apparently they're on the clock to and is the only way they keep their jobs as if David physical does a good job in coaching the Knicks. And Good luck with that up because I think the knicks field like they had a great offseason even though they didn't get durant Kyrie and they didn't win the lottery sweepstakes for I on Williamson. I like Julius randle. Hello Nice player. I mean they brought in a couple of better players. How is Phoenix better than the next? I mean think about that. The Phoenix Suns are better than the New York Knicks. And they're more interesting to watch. Yes fritzy special guest calling who is actor. Comedian Michael Michael Rapaport and New York. Knick Fan oh boy Where are you right now Dan? I am in Portland Oregon I am a out here. I am disappointed that I'm not going to be at the Knicks game tonight I am excited to be performing at the helium comedy. The club in Portland all weekend Which I'm I've never performed? That never been out here in my life But as far as the the Knicks are concerned. If I was in New York tonight Dan I would definitely be asking you to be on high alert. Because despite the fact that it's been a another her painful Start to a season and and and and I think and you. Maybe you're an expert or some sort of expert. You're you're a great sports mind. Maybe if you could explain to me what Steve Mills he'll set is why Steve Mills through Who's who's what does he now? The president of Basketball Walker. Why Steve Mills the hiring of every single coach Derek Fisher Antonis the Kirk Rambus is the hurt Williams Williams? Why Steve Mills continues to have a job? Are you one of these. He's a salary cap guy. I think that's his expertise. You know what I kinda guy at my my local delicatessen. He's good at math. We could get him my Guy Linney he. He does all the numbers from Delhi. He could do the salary cap. Steve Mills does has no basketball skills. And if in win and I think if and when more poorly when when the Knicks finally fire Steve Mills I guarantee you that Steve Mills will never have another job in the NBA. I don't know what kind of a range of mini has with with Dolan. But if you're going to get rid of Phil and you're GonNa get rid of speech veto a Scott Perry. Why not finally get rid of Steve Mills? Because Y- obviously his record is worse than any any knicks coach. That's ever come in there. And and at a at a certain point we need to like not just sorta clean house clean out that being said I do not think it should even be in the discussion of firing David. Fidel L. I.. I expect a New York. Knick fans tonight To focus their energy on Chris. Paul is now it may be proven that Christoph Porzingus the thing is is right and they should have left the garden but you don't disrespect New York. He needs to be booed appropriately. Every time he gets the ball. All Pu more booze all night long. I know that you have expectations. Because you're old enough to remember when the Knicks were actually good good but the problem is today's basketball player doesn't care about that. They they look at ownership they look at the instability there. Why would I wanNA play for for a franchise? Yeah great building. Great fans maybe the best fans in basketball but durant said it. Look they're not relevant. Why would anybody want? When's the last time they got somebody who wanted to play for the Knicks? I understand that did you you. You're trying to hurt my feelings. You're trying to break my heart. I understand extend. I'm not gonNA argue with it. I understand we don't need. Kevin Durant was so close to signing with the New York Knicks to act like. It wasn't a strong stroke consideration and now orm cool I'm with Brooklyn Stay Hyperbolic Chamber Kevin Kevin Durant. Why are you even doing? Have you ever seen Dr. WHO's not playing? The entire season maintain insane hour. Long interviews that Kevin Durant weird from Klay Thompson. We know we're 'cause he's not playing. We won't hear from Steph curry the rest of the year It if you're in play and if you know I never seen a guy who has nothing to do with the didn't do full hour long lifetime interviews. They chill out you. There's just go get your house I wanted to you helping. But don't act. You weren't considering coming to the Knicks. But but I can't argue with him. I understand what he's saying and I think at this point you know and I'm not one of these people blames owners wings on his. But I'll tell you what the truth is. It is doing and you know the aesthetic of New York City. They need any to bring the entire New York Knicks. A facility to Manhattan so if you young millionaire you are young start. You're not living with the soccer moms know district. I don't disrespect to the soccer. MOMS out there outside of New York City because the Knicks still live in New York City. Because the practice was really isn't in Manhattan. Doling you're such a big shot. Your father gave you all these buildings. Get yourself a building right there in Manhattan let these young stars live in Manhattan. Have The New York New York City lifestyle and that will help but they all look shopping. There are some questionable clothing. Somebody's young guys with the fashion. You Know Dan you wear the tight jeans and the cool sneakers you're one of them But right but that's one of the reasons it's Dolan and we need to bring the entire facility to Manhattan money. Make him in. Where are you playing tonight? Money the at helium. Helium Comedy Club in Portland. I met the Helium Comedy Club in Portland Oregon. I will be there Thursday Friday and Saturday I I am and I am huge in Portland and I'm GonNa send you really. Yes I'm sending my family's there yes I we kill it in Portland we will. That's great I'll be there all week and I'm looking forward to it. I love Portland. It's a great city. It's a great thing. What a great basketball city with the Maurice Lucas and then and then Bill Walton of course the jail blazers no disrespect and I weigh my go there. I wouldn't go there with the jail. Blazers there's tonight I know I know. Well now it's kind of like it's cute but back then it was. It was freaky. But but but the but the the seventy sixers Trailblazers series is one of my all all time favorite NBA Finals just like the characters and the The hair and the the knee braces and the doctor Jay and the Maurice Lucas Donald talking walking squaring off. You know I mean it's just a great a great final series. I I love the troubling I. I wear a Lillard Jersey tonight or Jerome Kersey tonight. Yeah get a little streak credit. Don't go bill Walton. Even Oh my love. Bill will. And that's a little too obvious like a drone Kersee Jersey might be pretty cool you don't do a writer. Jr writer or maybe I throw a Rod Strickland Jersey or she'd Wallace You know or you know those those these are good for the Maurice Lucas. That's one of my I love Maurice Lucas one of the great Power forward goons true the late Great Warriors Lucas. So you you know I I love the the the the the basketball culture audie. I'm looking forward to some good food and good laughs at the helium comedy club. And and I don't know if you're going to the Knicks game tonight. Dan But boo boo Bhutto and more Boeing. The actor comedian. Michael Rapaport have fun in Portland. And then he's going to Sacramento next weekend So the the the tour the rest of the year as well Michael rapaport comedy dot com tickets available. I appreciate it. Dan and I am and I'm looking forward to a great game at the garden tonight. Thank you Michael. That's Michael Rapaport. So he called in talk about the Knicks and talk talk about himself. Yes mclovin what do you think of that. Point to move a practice facility into Manhattan. I don't know that matters. I always wondered about. I've never ever heard somebody go. You know I'd go to the Knicks if they had a practice facility in New York I it comes down to have some stability have an infrastructure that is going to be almost owner proof and maybe you have him sell the team but that order but but you have to. There's no reason why you would want. Why would I wanNA play for an organization that is you know? Blitzen through coaches here in Brooklyn a younger Cooler Kipper Fresher Place. And there's no baggage I mean they. They're on on the uptick here. It's cool to be. You Know Brooklyn Nets. It's not cool to be. You Know New York Knicks which is not. I don't now if had they gotten Zion. And Maybe Zion you give durant and then you get Kyrie. Then it's different but you didn't get it and the Knicks always find the banana appeal here so it's not where you go boy didn't happen that time. It never happens for them. They somehow screw up you know. porzingas falls into their lap and then he wants out wants no part of it. How much more mileage can you get out of world's most famous arena when you don't have what's inside the arena worth checking out on a regular basis? They got billy Joel Plan there all the time so that helps. He plays her every weekend. Maybe not as not as modern plan landed the younger crowd the ranger saying Billy Joel skews a little probably a little older. They're probably just a little there. I there we're all caught up in all. Its the garden and you're playing in New York in these players. Don't get caught up in that they just don't and and I understand this. You know where their Dad's dad may go. Oh you could play for the Knicks. Yeah but it's not the Knicks of Red Holzman. You know it's it's these knicks and they didn't have a great off season. You know you have a great off season. When when's the last great free agent that the Knicks have signed Al Houston Sprewell? Who is I'll l.? Hang up and listen. Dad Run without Houston Charlie Ward and those guys. That's it right. Were they all free agents. I remember Chris Childs El-Sayed I remember I was Larry Johnson Trade Right. I believe Grand Mamma with Charlotte. Yes but Alan Houston became the poster child of the Knicks overpay for every possible player. And that he didn't play for like twelve years on the team and we're still getting thirty million a season or something. Yeah I'm exaggerating rating. But it felt like there were guys on the team who were getting paid years after they stop playing and he was like the one that people seem to point to a lot. I remember my friends being Mike Catt. And we're still paying. Alan Houston five million a year and he had the knee injury. I thought he was drafted by the Knicks. Now he was a piston he was AH. They paid him a ton of money but he did lead them to the finals. I mean he was on that team. Yup the Knicks have made the playoffs four times in the past eighteen years. That's almost almost hard to do with the NBA. play-off thing based on the odds. You should make it. At least I would say eight out of eighteen just on the WHO's made the playoffs more in the last eighteen years the knicks or the cowboys may the play. I Nicks are four for eighteen making playoffs. They've won playoff series in eighteen years. Check Ugh your club but in the nineties they were Super Co right. That that Larry Johnson team was pretty exciting a lot of celebrities. They were fun. What about that? Maybe they're celebrities. I don't even know. What are they still go celebrities? Yeah I think they do you know nick. The Dallas cowboys have made the playoffs seven times in eighteen years. Okay it's not awful okay. They better make it this year. They better better make it this year because I think Jerry almost has to have one of those moments where he goes I gotta fire. I got a fire Jason and and you know where you know you get in the playoffs. They played well at the end of the year. You Win a series win a game and then okay okay. He's he's your head coach the next season whereas this year. If you don't make the playoffs even if you make the playoffs and you don't win a game. He could still. I thought that he had to get to the NFC title game. And I have no Intel on that. That's just my gut feeling is jerry has given him the opportunity. They've had some bad luck as well. Zeke got suspended but you know they. They had a thirteen and three year. One Year Dak Prescott falls into their lap. They do make a great trade with Mark Cooper over. They decided not to draft Johnny Manziel against the owner's wishes. You know you get a great lineman had sort of a Hodgepodge Lodge here of success and failure and luck there yup couple interesting stats Jason Garrett. He makes the playoffs every other year. Unfortunately this is one of those years. He doesn't based on the odds but the cowboys right now our number one in the NFL in yards gained and their number seven in yards given up and they're number six points scored Gordon number six in points allowed. They've only done that one. Other time in the Jason Garrett era it's two thousand sixteen and there were thirteen three yeah stat wise. Is there a very good team. This year but Zeke hasn't been great. I mean they've done this. Because the Dak Prescott but I still. I still laugh whenever Dak has a great game. It's because Kellen one more their offensive coordinator but if he has a bad game. Then it's because Jason Garrett or the play calling then it's Jason Garrett when Zeke Elliott gets tackled for a loss against the Vikings but if Zeke would a score then we were GonNa Kelly Morgan call a great game there take a break. We'll come back. Final hour will talk to Charles Robinson going to be all who's sports. He did the deep dive on Colin Kaepernick with this workout on Saturday. Does it even happen and does the. NFL want him to succeed. I think if it does happen Colin Kaepernick will be on a roster by the end of the year. Adam schefter will also join us on that topic a little bit later on as well back after this and the Dan Patrick Show Wrangler makes cool jeans for guys who want to look and feel good. 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Have you had a good Chicago style. Hot Dog before. I don't think I don't think Chicago has either Oxymoron. Good Chicago style. I knew what that meant. I'd be mad but I mean the onions onions. And they steam the bond with the sesame seeds and I'm okay with the Bond Brits. I like mustard and I can do some Sauerkraut after that. It's too busy south. I'm I'm okay with that. You can put Chili on there. But I don't need peppers and tomatoes and relish. You're not saying New York hot dogs have you ever had those yes. Zulia Ricans onion from cart. Well Street meet. That's different as a dirty water dog. Yeah those are different. And they're fantastic. They're actually umbrella. It depends on the time of night. How good that is because you can be like? Oh my God. That's going to be hot pretzel with that and the city. Good good chess. Brett hotdog is fine. It's good I don't necessarily care for a boiled hotdog which is basically what that is. But I don't like I like a hot dog on a grill. Yes and he put a little mustard on there. And that's that's really about all you need. I don't like overdone things. I don't need forty seven different things on top of my hot dog and I don't need you know three inch thick pizza and I don't I don't need a bloody Mary with a cheeseburger on top. I don't need all that stuff like if it's a bloody Mary put. I don't know an oyster. Maybe a little lemon celery. That's it the the hot dog can't be the star itself. It's not a generally quality meat. That's why it needs accentuation. Komo if it's done right. The hot dog is what you want to accentuate anybody to hotdog plane mustard. Okay I if you put it on the grill. Yeah I mean we put her on the trigger yesterday you have to cover it up and why are you eating exactly right there. There's hot dog in here. Isn't it good. It's like when people say you now. Also my cat is it affects just like a dog then just get a dog and they all just like talking to. My cat is so awesome. It's just like a dog. Get a dog that that sounds like a Dr Phil Ism. My cat is like adult. People say that no need to get a dog. Oh you don't like catching. Oh you would love my cat. It's just like a dog now. That's why I like Donald. They're just like yes mclovin. There's a local hotoke place that Paul is probably asked me to go to six thousand times. I'm completely run. ADV excuses uses for Dhaka and do. Hey Hey what are you guys. I want to get for lunch today. Hey let's go to this hotdog place and he never gets by what does that super weeny super duper Weenie Super Duper Weenie. It's in Fairfield Connecticut. The guy's genius. It's it he takes hotdog making to a next level and he makes a Chicago style. But you know what he's tough. If you order hotdog doc and try to switch out his ingredients he gives you a look and he says why. Don't you have it my way I and if you don't like it then you can't just a hotdog a great bond sesame seed bun and mustard. That's that's it we're done really simple. You want to dress up your hamburger. Okay but not your hunt on. It's a simple. I'll let it go. I know when police showed us the picture of the Chicago hot dog. He's he's he actually was you. Were swearing I lost. He goes I think I know you did you. Did you got that upset. Yes fritzy. Why'd you really need to do if you could find one in the areas? Maybe go to. Nathan's hotdogs there and you get those amazing being French. Fries with a two pronged. Forklift comes with it and that beats everything. Nathan's hot dog with the French fat. And I haven't I've tried the Nathan's thing when I got to New York President gave you try to Nathan's hot dog. Oh No oh you gotta try Nathan. Then I try to. Nathan's hotdogs appointed. Yes all right. I can't eat Nathan's hotdogs just because of the the hotdog eating contest where you're watching. People eat them in there. Like essentially vomiting them back in their mouths. Nearly isn't that so good. No No it's disgusting. Yes people I went to Fritzy's neighborhood of Coney island excited have Nathan's hot dog. I'd hugh stomach ache after their terrible Nothing disappointed here. Then be our live is all the soccer content you need. You can stream Liverpool's twenty four seven channel L F C TV in weekly content from Tottenham and Arsenal only on biard tournament overrated Liverpool. Skip this island Paulie Walter. Payton Act scores Super Bowl touchdown. Mitchell trubisky you can make fun of Chicago. Bulls kids hot dogs. Don't Walter Payton Yeah. Kids are resilient walls gone. He can't defend himself all right. Are we going with the different whole question. They're mclovin. Yeah I was GONNA ask you. Oh by the way maybe some fair who's more likely to make them layoffs. WHO's playing tonight? The browns the steelers is it clearly. The steelers it feels like it. Yeah it feels like it. I mean both teams their second half of the season schedule. It's it feels a little user friendly so they're playing. The same opponents here. Feels like like Pittsburgh. I think Pittsburgh has a better sense of who they are than the browns do. I feel like and I. I like Mike Tomlin tougher in a tough situation against Freddie kitchen. The browns favorite tonight and I feel like the public doesn't trust Mason Rudolph where they still kinda think Baker Mayfield might be good. Might be a mistake. Nobody but he should be better than Mason. Jason Rudolph you're the number one pick in the draft Mason. Rudolph come on. I know it's weird but he's waiting. Well the steelers are winning. Yeah minkah fitzpatrick a single handedly. Winning Games. Yes he's he's done well by pick since he got there. Yeah he's he's been. He's basically saved their season. I think now you gotTa make sure you get enough offense against Cleveland tonight and you Cleveland fans wanting to Baker Mayfield. When we're in the red zone be quiet yet? We usually are because you don't score touchdowns so we're quiet. How about you have better plays? That are call old okay. I don't think it's the noise of the fans there that you guys come on. You gotta be quiet so we can hear the play being called. I think that's the probable the Monday night is podcast night. The Los Angeles Lakers. What's happening? Everybody this is the official Lakers podcast. I'm your host Mike Trudell super pumped to be flanked by Erin Lahr Sewell. You ready to go. I'm ready. Go skating the Lakers will be a top ten. The defense team. That has two stars or supervising. This Lebron in a d sometimes can't the route plus. I think they're both good candidates for. Mvp I really like the way that this team just feels to be around the. It's a it's a very clear clear message that's two stars and the ad and it's everybody else on board the relationship that develops between those two off the end on the pork. 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