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Diet Starts Today with Danny Murphy

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55:18 min | 9 months ago

Diet Starts Today with Danny Murphy

"The following podcast is a deer media. Production Hey girl hey welcome back another episode to my weekly podcast taste of Taylor. I'm your host Taylor Strecker and today with me. We have a brand new friend on the PODCAST. His name is Danny Murphy. But you might know him from instagram as Kashmir Danny hunting. That's what the gay. Hey Daddy Kashmir Murphy welcome to the show Hello Tale. I'm so excited. Gosh so you and I have crossed paths at benches says such as you Betcha you ask any of my friends they will say I'm a batch. Okay but so for anybody who doesn't give a little bit of a level resume recasts so for sure so I am one of the Co host of their true crime. podcast not another true crime. PODCAST I which is why it's so fun I know and it's a fun one too because we talk about true crime but also it's like when drinking wine and I'm like due dates now but do I have feelings about the things. Yes type. Weight Roku Suffolk with cab. JUST APP on an I cried four times in it is is repulsive. It was so so much you know what was disturbing to me people that so the people in the actual like dock itself are being interviewed. You'd that were actually involved in moving moving. And then like every one of my friends I've talked to Darren carp her girlfriend Carson Andrea Lavish. Dahlie all of these friends of mine who I would say they like me. They like each other. They like. It's so interesting in my girlfriend. She was like cats. What's the cats I can't I like? We watch nonstop Docs and movies based on humans murdering Ringo humans butchering humans. But everybody was like. Oh my God a kitten now south interesting people literally like animals bordenave people and listen. Animals are important. Don't get me wrong. I guess what's more important. I'm sorry I think the thing is that it's because the animals they can't fend for themselves much. I you know so. Let us about for animals. Steel bad for women because we are also we are invulnerable. When you're a woman all you I do is walk down the street going to rape me? Don't kill me a five alarm siren going on even like when I was where my girlfriend. I just moved to Jersey City. It's a great area. Thank you but like it's so funny because there's like little things and I'm like Oh get this fix which get this fixed and like my landlord like thought about that. And I'm like your dude. You don't have to worry about an intruder from every possible. A pipe coming in like I'm like I'm a bars on the window. I think that's also because you watch so much Ukraine and your like someone's going to break in everywhere your homeland brain is all the general claire. Danes attack me when I look at apartments. I'm like to rape and live here. NOPE nope dangerous. Put that on a street is it was two hundred dollars but yeah it's easy access to bedroom I'm saving so much money But it really is. It is a thing that like women will talk about with each other. It's a it's a fear that will I think a guy like doesn't necessarily how about have you seen Whitney Cummings Cummings new comedy special. Yes she talks about. How like when men Leva comedy show? Is it safe to go into the garage. uh-huh I mean do do you at I never do. It's so interesting because again game because it also I've also just been very lucky I've just like I like straight men are always like they're are Kinda like amused by me. I guess or they're confused because I kind of look like Rosie O'Donnell's remind them of their youth. Just remind them about what's gotTa Watch out. Yeah but I know miss you very careful. That's true so many street but then I have my friends who like my roommate's that are coming home and I live in Brooklyn they're like okay. I only walk on this street because the lights are out. I'm a vacuum. That's the thing that will. That's why true crime is so popular among women. I mean I know it's popular among especially because it's it's like a survival guide almost. Yeah kind of I think that we also we want to be voyeurs to like what we're afraid of. Sometimes we feel like somehow we have control over it so it's so funny I mean like all my friends and every woman I know is obsessed with crime but this don't fuck with cats dot people like I just can't bring myself to watch an animal but you can watch a doc about a sheild being molested and murdered like what is wrong with you calm down with. Svu where it's only rape rape but there's no cats harmed. Thank but thank God. It wasn't the cat. Olivia Benson to not touch a kidding. Really crazy to me so yeah so so the people who are scared of watching cat first of all to make you feel better. Don't worry people got killed. A man dies so you can exhale people like Oh really. Oh I'll totally watch and I was just Katherine Dunn. Sharon stone somehow involves absorb so good. Don't you give more like what. What what are your thoughts on it? Do you think it's a must watch. I think I think it is a must watch just because it is so interesting interesting. It's one of the ones that shows how the Internet can get so obsessed with true crime and it was before that even happened and also just people working together in such a weird way that I'm because it's like don't want to give too much away but like it was kind of solved not really by a bunch of us on facebook that has like got together to be like what's going on and I'm like what is it's like the first Internet s case. Almost it's really interesting because what I think it. Does it shows how dangerous the Internet is in general like also it shows how much time people spend on on the Internet. That's the inside. It can be a good thing or a bad thing. Yeah and then also. It's kind of like what you know. What are people? What motivates people now has had Had people had faced with nop into thing would these crimes even because there would have been no attention if no one paid attention would they have stopped because that's the biggest question. Russian it's because of the entire docket. Are they solving the case or are they the reason the case is becoming bigger. And that's what I feel like as such the topic that you need to talk about after it because it's so fasten mm-hmm and there's answers from both sides because you watch these things to when it comes to true crime and it's like if I was watching this like I wouldn't be thinking about murdering if people aren't thinking about murder me murder murder loans. Right like I just watched this amazing special on Netflix. Comedy it's called It's not rain degenerates. Thank you generates. And it was all Jim Norton. So Sam Roberts really good friend of mine. Jim Norton not a good friend of mine. But I feel like I'm Jim Norton adjacent okay So Hello Jim and I met him a couple of times and I have to tell you the truth. I've never really been unimpressed with Jim like when I met him in a studio. Because just because you're gonNA call me doesn't mean that that you're like like cracking jokes the entire time for fucking maybe he just doesn't mean he doesn't talk for him around. I don't really know but jim when he's onstage. Is fucking fucking captivating. I watched it for Nikki. Can I tell you I only watch nick. I love it and it's just because I think she is so funny everything and she's so good so smart so quick and it's like I whenever someone who's like oh I need Astana. Social Watch was like literally just Google. She's so she just does it well. She's yeah so oh I watched Jim and he did his whole thing about how we as society with our obsession with your supervisor. I mean I feel like there were a couple of channels like completely flipped. Foggin literally just true cry wasn't auction like Kinda like lifetime wannabe. They truly were just all of that. They were just like silly movies. The reason stuff like that and then they were asking girls with like a fucking hot prints. Yeah yeah that. That's very realistic. Five Year Plan is to the oxygen and now she didn't like all true crime twenty four seven. It's Insane Nancy Grace. I mean when I'm on the Road Dossey and yet the drinking the game has begun girl for recording. I'm GonNa Block right now but when I'm on the road I literally I'll watch true crime alone in my hotel room and I think I'm a disturbed human being but I feel like you're safer in a hotel room. That's at least my thing. I feel safe as on a hotel. I don't know why but I am a man and I love a robe and I love her. Who cares what happens to you physically as long as you have room service or anything so I was watching this gym special or this. Jim Sat and he was basically saying how true crime is so like we really kind of almost like deify. Efi in a fucked up way. These criminals these murderers mass murderers and so he was talking about The special the dock that was done at Ted Bundy and how and they said the the words they use to describe him genius and and also the genius attract winsome. Yeah he was saying. Yeah maybe at a serial killers but in the real world he was like an average looking. Yeah gyms like if I was a murderer ibn eight. Yeah he wasn't from you. Let me tell you that much man how God like how low fantasy to say honey. I'll be good. We want to kill me. I see I would. I wouldn't be so stupid. That's my me and my appetite. IBM in the box. And then I'd be like Oh my God you love what you kill people. Let's get married forever. Give the ending of my back but anyway but you were saying how it's like. The Ted Bundy is not a genius. He escaped from jail the first time like a bird or cat out of a window so this is the thing I do think we tend to glorify. It's interesting how that happens. Yeah even like the personality traits and like like in the physical appearance of these murderers and of course. There's there's a deranged person out there. That wants attention if they can't get it through the normal channels modeling acting. Or what have you offie. Yeah reports like the second to last and then you're like which is don't make it in porn murdered if I can make it hair. He's singing in prison. And they are proud of himself anyway. So yes true crime lab and also and then also do some writing for Betcha page six so like I like to have a little cattiness and a little gossip I love it and then with that I also do Ron Bennington yes. I know every week. I'm on his show to be clear. I know Ron Ron probably doesn't I'll bring them up. I feel like you probably will. Why don't you ask Ron Taylor Strecker? I will super busy yourself. Fired her honest. Do you remember that stupid. Bitch Taylor. Shocker here totally a cautionary Tale Romeo and I love. I love him so much because he I've I've known him since I entered at serious serious. Did we cross do we overlap. I actually don't I I think because you were morning. Thank God I was GonNa Dig Right now I I. It would not be the first time like I'm sitting across but we knew each other is it's like I've ever seen that movie with Chilies called Young adult that's my favorite moment. It's me it's truly like just like eating doughnuts like in sweatpants sir. Do you make your dog out on your Patio and disgusting. I wish I had a patio. Because there's a scene where she goes to hang. Hang out with like this guy and it's disturbing to the door 'cause he lives in sister and she's like hey us over here and she's like Oh my God I know you may this. She's like yeah she's like Mavis. It's May and maybe because maybe you know she's like remember when I got the vice principal. Get Your Code. Put Rice krispy treat sincere car her and maybe it was like oh well you know. She doesn't look like sorry crazy. Sorry I was a popular. There's been a lot of times at serious. I've like overlap people. And they're like yeah. We like totally like you. You fully and I'm like Oh could you imagine I was I was I was scared I call. I'm going to until you until he's all right now. I have been known to call interns intern. Well that's too bad. Wow okay. That's that's fair. Who liked? Don't like do a good job. That's the job. I don't have to learn your name. Well that's Rhonda's ever enter nickname so that's why I got cashmere and it just started it from there because like I only wear I wear I spent all my money at Zara where I'm wearing sweaters. That's how we know each other. You're INSTAGRAM INSTAGRAM is hilarious. I mean you are your comedian I yes I do stand up when I write and I do a little I I hope so at Union Hall so I'm just doing you know running around New York it doing the the data when the damn thing. How old are you twenty five and my baby by by no I am your child? You don't remember me. They called call me just baby. I love millennial. I'M NOT GONNA lie. I'm not going to be one of those. I am technically an elderly. Yeah thank you. I tracked very young. I appreciate the comment so but I definitely I have friends like mccaw sperm and my friends who are in my age bracket who have kids they eight totally act of most of them very gen- acts and they're like many years and I was talking to them for a while and then I realized millennials els how to work things like instagram. Instagram story tick tog or facebook. But it's like like they understand the podcasting like I just realized I can either fight. Fight them or join them. And so I'm here I'm joining you join and also because you realize you have to do. It's a hard thing you have to four things at once to do anything now. We're going to have to work because I feel like there's sometimes even like my mom would say things like. Oh you just stay at a company forever. And then that's your company and I'm like that's not on anymore because that doesn't work anymore now because I'm like you'll realize like no company really cares about you and they'll be like you don't have value yourself or taking advantage of you. But that's the thing is that millennials like people will say maybe they're like flighty. Okay or entitled or that they never stay in one spot for long and that they're just noncommittal no well you're multi-taskers and their net workers and their dreamers and they want growth and they want to evolve so I'm here for a high level but I will still be very jealous of your age. Why why you're here today amongst many reasons but the number one reason is yesterday on instagram? You know a bitch likes to do last minute. PODCAST yesterday on Instagram. I Ah I I did a story about how it was my very first day on my diet. I officially joined weight watchers yesterday out and I I fucking hate it. I'm not new to me. I've done weight watchers a couple of times before I know was up but I definitely definitely am like not super psyched about it. And it's something I have to do. I don't want to do and I'm on instagram. Like I was getting like so much of this was like I'm trying to guess the number one comment that. DM's I appreciate it looks. It's nice that we don't need it. Thank you know it was this. You got this girl you got this girl like Rachel Platten's fight song you're like I don't need that right now. This girl and I'm like yeah. Yeah I fucking but thank you for the love and support But you reached out. And you're like Oh my God. We're on the plan but really doing the. I just started last week so we have to talk about this. You know this is like such a Cliche podcast for this time of the year. Really how New Year new me. But I feel like there's nothing that connects people more than being on a diet like when I saw you eating the pie the Little Fruit Cup. I was like zero point. I know Oh that I ate that. I'm starving right now. It's not satisfying. I had only rubbers or zero point. Okay but so anyway so If you've ever died in your life you know we're talking about I definitely I grew up in Diet Culture Hall. I was very much a diet home. I want to know your history. I was like slimfast sixth grade. We got me real quick. Just like if you're somebody who doesn't Diet you're not gonNA like this podcast will turn off right now and also also fuck. You do not talk to me because I don't like you because they're the ones where it's like when you have that very hot friend. Who tells you Wanna I just be yourself? It's like the the same friend who like doesn't have to die. You deserve the bread. I'm like I know I deserve it and I want it but I can't eat it up. I WANNA put in past. Excuse me Shane glasses of orange. County literally shove that brought grab your asshole. Is it less points that way points. That's how we should drink Tampa in our fucking bud. I'm getting there. I'm not jokin again. I'm about to go a high school rally getting drunk if it goes down. I mean got a glass of wine is points if I could put two shots of vodka. which would would also be about five or six points into Tampa on my asshole and get me like crazy drug almost like I did like alcohol? Heroin I'm here for weight watchers. You end to become like a chemist and like you just like doing equations okay but if half of this avocado bits bits with I'm like should I be in NASA. They want to call me a beautiful mind. I'm aw I have literally post. It's all over my apartment. My girlfriend was like I was certainly. You're never this target especially without alcohol and I'm like I'm sober. I'm starving carving and also I've a mathematician exhausted pick doing Pythagorean theorem God awed but like Diet might not resonate with you. But if if you've ever been on even or if you're dieting right now this for you because we're going to go through the good whatever that is the bad and the ugly we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA end and a positive note we're gonNA end on like our tips and tricks for anybody who's doing weight watchers. 'cause we have them yes. Oh were lifelong died. I was GONNA say yeah because we aren't doing the right things doesn't mean we don't know how to do that. Like microphones like Oh my God. We're taking your recipe and I was like Taylor. I know I know every hack in the Damn Damn Book. I've been doing it for twelve years. Yeah like like looks at looks at weight. Watchers website for one hour is my girlfriend and his an expert. I'm like Bitch I've live this. You keep being six feet tall and eating your fucking milky ways. Who is calories? A milky ways should getting those. She can eat Milky Way. The last time I had a Milky Way. I'm like I'm not saying many full bar. A Bethany Frankel shakes when she found out. Tom Cheated on. They cannot handle that. So anyway But but I feel like this is I think that most women and honestly men relate to this. Yeah because it's a universal because that's the funny thing like everyone for the most part has me about their body that they wanted to and also it's the thing you don't always need to change it for your physical appearance it's for your health. It's the thing when you go digging. Because I was like disgustingly like just like a brown tar on the inside. But I looked like it'd be like Moss just like running on cigarettes and Martinis dream. Go that is my goal. Cloyd get drunk on one Martini. Because I'm like my body is so big I need. I need the trout like I need a whole caravan. I need to stand up to even start my but no I I definitely feel like this is the very relatable thing everybody's going through it. The struggle is real. And it's a bomb it's bonding and especially when you're away watchers. That's why part of weight watchers. You go to either meetings you. You wouldn't join facebook group. You have coaches or the APP too. Because the APP I feel it's very much. Kosor did a refurbished itself yeah. It's much more approachable and also I find myself no really. I don't know if you've started looking at the community where it's people showing how much weight they lost and like their genes shrinking and I'm like this I'm crying I need this inspire. It's really good. Yeah this episode of taste of Taylor is brought to you by Ram rise. It's a game changer. I am telling new from one person with a sleeping problem to another. It's going to change your life. Some people have trouble falling asleep. Some people have trouble saying asleep. 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You're welcome you're welcome. Welcome and now back to cast. So when I first started I was like fifteen And I went to meetings with my mom. My mom made me go because I because a boy didn't kiss me. I took a dance and he was a year younger than me. Which of my World Melinda that made me an almost user software a sophomore? God like excuse me a girl the cool girls older boys how long the young right and he didn't even want to kiss me now didn't want him. I don't know but you didn't and try to kiss me and I was like mom and she was like do you want the truth. I said yes and I know. Nowadays this is a very popular opinion Indian. But you know what back in the day my mom was doing. You know what thing is. My mom held herself to a standard expectation. So of course she didn't say to me you need to lose weight but when I came a cry Cryan Riot. You're like what's happening in three folded like a history textbook under my arm. US One yeah. UH-HUH I my mom was like you know what you gained some weight and I think that maybe we should go to weight watchers. Think it's time I was probably fifteen or sixteen and that's how I started and honestly honestly I think my mom do me a huge favor because I think that Aside from all the things she fuck me up and she will be I. I think my mom's body image issues and the way that she she died at. Yo Yo Yo yo up and down gorgeous but I'm better than I am. I learned that But my mom used to say that when you go into the dressing room when I was little she would say off my butt so big make matters so big and literally. She said two years old. I looked at my butts too big my thighs drink. And she's got this is bad. I can't talk her for this. But you know what it's subtle and kids. Are sponges like it. Just it is and also. It's a harsh reality you like. If you didn't hear it from that you'd see a magazine you'd see it on TV show. You'd do any of that kids national ballet classic because my thighs were so big off so anyways expedited so but I will say this like my mom. I definitely feel like my body just more for you and I know I have because I really was sent a picture by Andrew Lab with all of two thousand from two thousand nine. She enrolled me without my knowledge. And the tenure challenge. Don't you dare ever But the thing that was good about her son that was made me go. It was a harsh harsh slap in the face of your body. Just more for you. 'cause I looked at it I was emaciated and I thought I was so close uh-huh so anyway but Montauk meat and when I was fifteen or sixteen sophomore year of high school to weight watchers. And I think she prevent me from having eating disorder. 'cause you learned how to eat right well from them in a sense watchers will teach you. Yes you'll become obsessive. We'll have a little weird journal full of your diet tricks and tips and points but yes he will say breakfast around for dinner. It's fine because at least you know what's healthy and what's not and like eventually guess what the grim we the grim reaper MHM will come and get everyone so all you skinny bitches fucking wait for the day that your metabolism goes to shit because because that's what I needed to learn because when I was young I was eating toast riddles and Egos and all the stuff and I'm like what is going on so then I started doing all these diets so I was like. Oh these these aren't filling me up are like three times as many points as something else that I could be eating. That would do better for me and then it's so not only. Is it better for my body. It fills me up more. But it's like this is crap and like no I mean you start to really understand. Why maybe you're having a problem with yes? There's some kids who can eat that that toaster. Strudel Shit like Gretchen wieners. Stick figure but not most Pino. Because I'm like when I did gain weight. I got acne cavities for three. It's not it's not just the way you know I gotta get a win. I needed something guy so I would say like maybe when I was twelve or so we know because I was a little league because my entire family we were all like. We'd all workout so much like what is happening and really was the Diet. So what kind of things were you eating so we did did slimfast together I I I'm fast. Yeah it's not good. It's not I just truly it came in. It went out. It was very much. Yeah it was a rough plumbing situation and also my the thing that I was like. I'm like why am I drinking. Remember bringing it to lunch at school and teachers like you. Who are you GONNA die? Then after that I would say I switched to the Special K. Ira What's a special. Of course Syria's is cereal diet which basically small upgrade from slimfast wall so I did it wrong because it supposed to be a challenge but I just kept on doing it and there's a lot of weight but then the doctor's like this isn't healthy and I was like so basically tell people that if they don't so you literally it's like you go to in the back of a special K boggs and it has a little cereal bowl with a weight measurement around and I'm like that's me I am almond milk and I would just be like so you eat a bowl of cereal for two meals and you have your third meal Mark Launch Your third meals normal but they say try to veggies so I would have breakfast lunch cereal Fruit Cup and then like a Veggie Burger for dinner and then I would go to gym every day. I remember the summer that I was like. I'm not doing friends. I'm not doing anything. I just went to the CIA junior year of high school. I just went to the gym everyday on the elliptical and I lost so much weight yet but I was like I'm I was so weak and I couldn't do anything and I was like this. I cannot keep this going so then so how did you didn't have is probably the lowest you ever were. That was the lowest ever. Watch the look at the pictures and you didn't even appreciate Shoulda I always say right now. I'm finally the weight that I always thought I was. It might add. Look Yeah Yeah with the happening with when I hit college and the night like Louis ballooned so then you just been yelling. I've been yo-yoing heart so then I would do a thing where I'd be like okay. Well then I won't drink for a month and I'll salads but then I'll I'll lose weight and they'll start drinking and like having regular meals and going off friends in having fries and I'm like oh I'm gaining all the way back because it's not a lifestyle that I'm doing it just kind of like placing here in their way watchers. Not what they're paying for this by the way but it's a lifestyle and it does work and yes when I'm a weight watchers like pasta doesn't exist Rice kind of exists ests purple or blue. I'm blue oh I'm purple and I can have brown rice and Pasta. Excuse you kind of pasta like the whole wheat pasta. I don't want that so then you're good fuck catch because I I know I'm the purple one where I can have more zero point foods. Yes so it's like all I have like like like all like dairy grains and things like that. Okay we're GONNA get a crash course like our and then we watch. It's kind of like paint by numbers. Like you get to your own thing so I was green and I switched to blue and I don't know if it's a good idea about idea because I got on the scale because you have to get in the scale to see what your weight is when you star which is traumatic internal conflict. That's the worst part and then I did one day of it and guess what I went up four pounds but my period. So I'm GonNa just say it's that I'm not I'm not gonNA a freak out. I I work hers. I swear to God if this isn't working I'm getting fucking light Bo so but before we get to that. What are the craziest diets? You've been on Special K. K.. Fast slimfast and then I I would do. I did weight watchers when I was younger too and I would go to the meetings. It'd be like you're too young for this and then I would. I would do that. I try to do fake ones that I thought would work wherever. I'm just getting lean cuisines because it says Lena and then I remember like a doctor. There's only sodium like those aren't good good for you so I was just mixed up like that and then I would try to do. Have you ever done the intermittent fasting. I like tried to know I mean I've been in mourning for my whole career. Yeah literally impossible. I like 'cause it's just okay. Don't eat till noon. That's perfect then it's eleven and I'm truly starving dying of hunger and I'm like I need to do something with this and then I would fuck it up because I'd be like Oh Gee than from twelve to eight. I'm not losing weight. I'm like you because Doritos aren't part of that. Yeah that's the thing it's like if I'm intermittent fasting I'm Gonna I'm I'm gonNA stuff myself to the Brown. I know because I don't know if you're the same way to where I can be good but then I'll get to a day where I'm like okay. Maybe we'll have like a cheat day and that she truly erupts. Listen to like a lifelong affair. I'm like just ordering rounds of food drinks and then all I drank the next. I'm so hungry. 'cause I'm hung over then I'll eat that and it's Scott Cycle that lower this past week. Alex good to me Doesn't taste good but it goes down the same way so I'm trying to think died so I did start off healthily with weightwatchers right because that's what. Yeah but then I've done some crazy diets because then my mom and my sister and I kind of got into this world like fasting in like fat diet so we did the or or like they were called this word. This ugly live. Wording cleanses So my mom and sister did the master cleanse. I never did it so be it. My sister cried said all I want to chew my food and I said that's sad. Yeah so basically that is it's it's like water cayenne pepper lemon juice and maybe like gava or honey you make it a little bit of sugar and that's all you consume for as long as humanly possible until you're administered to the ER until you're like. I just WanNa June literally locked because your body doesn't even the muscles atrophy atrophy and that's the and it's so hard to because that I remember hearing about that I from beyond say and I was into like looking at all these celebrities. I'm like I wanNA look like that. They're so good they're so fun they're so hot so they'll say they do something and then I'm doing that but then you don't realize the money they have to get nourishment other ways and having all of this exactly for them then. I went on the watermelon melon strawberry grape diet where it starts like this. I think it's like three or five days and you start by basically day one. You have to like have to eat it. All a whole watermelon four quarts and like six bunches of grapes reaps. That's and that's all you get to eat your meals and the next day. It's like half watermelon to courts. Whatever and then you just basically don't go down to like alike to grapes? Nothing like two and the second year done you gain it all back and then more it resolve cocking stupid. And that's what I know. I tried to do one for a while to where it was like. The it's called like the Royal. We'll dieting where you start breakfast. Your King yes that and then like lunch and dinner your popper sexist diet for a queen. You donate like Kate. What are you doing so when you have breakfast you have nothing lunch? You have fifteen apiece and then you pass by dinner so honey you have. That's kind of a dream come until you Sign me up. I know I models are so damn skinny. They fucking sleep all day. Then they wake up. They probably have one meal like but like but it's like it consist of like a Greens and wine. Go to the nightclub they dance cardio also probably I'm all do coke but like some of them are right now Great great for the metabolism. Then they go to sleep and you got to. That's how you do people Eh. But that's the thing if only I was like skip to be a model I can jump on that train. I'm just two steps behind that I watch weeds lovely. I always felt like I was the daughter. When she's just roomier when she was in the commercial for the husker off the question for you so you know growing growing up? My mom was always like very adamant again. Let me say my mom is incredibly beautiful. People see my mom is your mom at. I don't know if they're saying like Oh my God. You're so ugly. How are you really do connotation? Or if or if they're just like she looks so young. I can't believe that she's your mom. Because you look so old she gets complimented here insulted either way consultant. It's all about me in my sad feelings so but like she really. You know my mom definitely. I mean I watched her not workout workout diet. It knocked diet. You know I've seen her gone go up. I've seen her go down But the thing is and I completely lost my train of the O.. Onnell was my mom used to always we say to me like Taylor. Everybody has to work hard. Okay so if somebody says that they don't and metabolism there they have an eating disorder either. They're interested bingeing purging or like they're like exercising a crazy amount or not as much as they say that they do or they they think they eat for the bird like she said all these different things so clean cleremont spent a lot of time with it mentally and emotionally and so I really grew up thinking no that doesn't exist but now I live in New York and I don't know if I'm being tricked Danny any or if it's the truth but I'll tell you. New York attracts a certain kind of lady who it it seems. It's just live a follow. The people put 'cause I try to do a lot of work at classes because that was the other thing that I've been doing. I was so young trying so hard to be fed when I go into New York. And it's people. I'm like dripping sweat giving one hundred percent and then there's like the girl next to me who's just like lifting half a leg and like is like a stick. I just feel like I'm surrounded by more than ever now girls who are so skinny skinny but eating at Burger King. But they're like I'm going to get chick-fil-a for small route to gay people I know. So okay you fucking skinny skinny and you but like just like literally like I'm talking fast food. I'm talking like like I love my friends on better pump. They all have ransom for every meal. What and also cause? They're fed enough that they don't even realize the calories in it. I don't feel blows my mind because my mom was in a way the opposite growing up where she's like. Well we're just not lucky with our metabolisms so we got to put in the word for it. Okay she would like. I learned about calories and breaking shut down like that. What do you believe so like like what so? I watched his show. I was at home watching. My Dad was furious. It's called Adam Ruins everything. Oh I ruined my dad's life so it was my my family we struck. We are food eaters. We love we live to eat and we also are very vain. So we're constantly the struggle of dieting and working out and then wanting to indulge so and we all share in this together. But we're not always in the same path level of a in our journey so sometimes some of us get to judge others. Hardly the one who on wants everytime Thanksgiving who yeah like. Oh you're getting more mashed potatoes relation. How but yeah so? We're like it was after Thanksgiving we're all together and I must honestly. Maybe it was like over the summer but I remember altogether and you like eating hot dogs and Shit like has summer Mer and this show comes on atoms everything and it's basically about how the Diet industry is bullshit and medicine around is bullshit and you know the weight loss. It's just a billion dollar industry industry and they don't want to fix it because they fix it. They stopped making the money and essentially at the end of the day. Yes you can be the best version of you but there are limitations to what that looks like for every individual person and he kind of said no matter how much exercise monitor. How much dieting you do with the end of the day? You're Kinda predisposed to being a certain way I learned so make healthy choices. Live healthy the healthy lifestyle. Don't drink too much drink water. Get good sleep really well but at the end of the day you girl like you boy. It's like what you see is what you get. It's dad was like he was like this bed. This man is alive people to be obese. Because I don't I'm like dad because it goes against what everyone is being taught. Because you're like well I also think he goes against my dad. Who is a control freak to say like? It's telling my dad it's up to him and my dad is somebody who grew up poor for sources family go to college. Went to Harvard is doctor is Babe and is definitely definitely baby. Hey He's like the hottest for family defense was family without Super Hawkeye's data but it really is and like I was with my cousin and she's a little bit smaller than me. But we were like we're so similar and she was like I know you're going on weight watchers. Because I was talking going on. She was like but I'm telling you I just cut out on gluten. I have severe nausea. Founder she said you and I honestly we looked the same. We have a very similar or build. Should I if I think if it works for me it will probably work for you. But that's the thing is on but it goes back to this idea of it's like it's I guess you could call it. It's not nurture it's like Diet diverses nature trying to change your body from the outside of just being like how could I make my body. The best what it's going to be I said what do you think it is. It's about say this saying at my thinnest I was about the whole God if I don't make me do the month fifty pounds while I think that's what I'm sixty pounds. I know it's sixty my tennis. Do I was like forty or fifty pounds less than I am now yep and I think and I do feel it is kind of that. It's like how people are like. Oh my life would be perfect progressive house down the street. I tell my I would be so happy if I just forty pounds me too. And I'm like if I didn't have to think about calories if I can also just like go into a store and like not even have to try it on and cry in the dressing room cry because the amount of times they'll just run out of like H blowfish. Let let her cry soundtrack. Like you know when you have in movies. Where they're like makeover young movie makeover with me soundtrack monitored? We got to be real done on a positive I know minds like it cuts me. You think it's going to be fun. And then it's like the corner just like shivering minor little I dream to dream and and I'm sure but I would like pitch. What was your go away? She does eight MM oatmeal. I think I almost did that too when they really don't have much for Les Mis Okay Oatmeal but I do feel like it is a thing where I need to. I need to tell myself I believe that you can change your body for however you can because or else I'd be very much like who the fuck cares then fugger Martini truly. I'm still doing on weight watchers. which isn't working for that so I need need to hold myself? This week is the week that I start counting alcoholic. Yep Oh that's a fun game to play. I'm not counting alcohol so now here we are. You're only watchers. So you know what. I think that we washers is the way that you can say. I'm putting my best foot forward. It is and and it makes sense and like yes. I know there's like the whole thirty now. I'm getting constant. DMC was to do this. Do this fish thank you bye shut up because I can't have that noise and also because my thing is to with whole thirty. I did that one too. I completed. I blocked it out of my brain in but it was a one tour. I'm like it was supposed to be like you learn whatever. How every food makes you feel? And I'm like I don't need to know Keno makes me happy or sad. I need to know what makes me lose weight. So I'm Marie condos food. Basically then French fries fucking lobster roll and Sushi surveys exclusively easily Martinez also and thumbs. Their red wine from Italy is is all multiple John out or multiple John Jehmu from France. France shot no sense hair. Honey I like us on terrible. Have you usually now excuse. You are like a bridge and it's like this place in France where they like have a bourgeois day. They PA the one. Basically it's called Boozy boozy and you lay. Those are the two things I want to be doing. I mean yeah more good oh no I waylon how. I don't want anyone to touch me. I mean you see touch sexually. He's like the gym. I've realized you don't want to go. Oh and then you go. You're like Oh my God my door frontier so high and it's a thing to where I feel like I alternate. It depends on like what Song I listened to before I have sex with someone. Like if I'm blasting like a pump up up like if I'm like Liz my gat touch my body but then if I'm listening to something don't dream it's over and they like a little ripple happens because my body sometimes can be a pond. The A puddle then wrote to the we don't turn off the lights and go in the other room and let's just like skype. Maybe not Saxons to talk about. Don't hey cat. Let's let's talk about real houses of New York now that the turn on a resume in the mood so we're only watchers now and I'm this literally day to it's what you know what's GonNa Happen. I had I do four pounds out. Don't forget you're gonNA because I had a headache the second day. Oh no because I think I was just like so hungry because my mom is doing to with me because we just Colorado. I run into a Bodega by pineapple so I didn't faint. The last time I went on. I I C- I came downstairs. My Parents House and I was like my mom and I were doing it together. Same could open up and I was like mom. She's like when I was like I just saw Jesus in the trees she is. She's like what and I was like. I am whole loosening bitch. She was like eight thirty in the morning. You don't usually even eat tilton so like but then like Migraines for days but yeah I mean watches is the way to go okay. So if you're away watchers we feel you were here for you. I'm on blue. There's green that was on and then you're on I'm purple. So does the only only three I think those are the only three and I don't know I know purple focuses on because I said that my priority because I know that I'm a snacker and that was a huge for me. I WANNA focus on zero point foods to are- like basically to reprogram to be like Oh at four PM. When I'm really hungry? I donate a backups. I cannot have a banana and just be as far. So here's the deal. So the zero point. The thing is fucking psychologically genius so weight watchers this thing where we also you take a quiz and basically figures like what your heart areas are and then it puts you in a certain color category based on that so but but like you can get more or less zero points so green has the fewest zero. Which is why I picked it because I was like? I don't want a lot of myself and then like yesterday was like on why to me all day long so I'm blue which means I get like like for example egg whites like three of them normally only one point on blue is zero And so I also listen. I am a drinker. I'm going to be cutting back because of this like what I'm GonNa do. which is what I didn't fucking God Damn Charm? Is You live zero points. Which means you little egg whites SHRIMP SCALLOPS veggies with Pam. Yeah no oil. It's really hard and Broccoli Cauliflower Shit like that and then you just drink the rest of your points so basically I will be consuming twenty. Some odd points gone drunk or exit. Yeah and you're like I'd rather have my cars with that but it's kind of like food thing and that's why I'm like. It's what I should be doing because I'm eating all these good things and I can unwind and I feel like I earned the one then to me to also if you work out wine this is that this is why Audrey both act as we can still drink bottles of why I I figured it out. One bottle of wine is twenty twenty points. That's true. Okay I twenty eight points a day. How many more them twenty six? So my God beds. I don't know I think they're want me to do more zero point foods so so basically I can do all zero point foods would win now. Fruit that SHEBELLE's Hedley protein Tofu or some like grilled meats and stuff like that Turkey. You Got Turkey. You can have chicken. You cannot fucking shrimp or lobster yes honey okay yes you I mean yeah corn counts. I'll take it. I'm eating a full put a food but are zero points on. I need this. I'M NOT GONNA fight it but exactly and then I can just like figure out the rest of the drinking of the country so I think it's going to be a huge success. Even though I just I I'm very hopefully the game four pounds one. Also the good thing is you have to like the because they give you over arching like I get like fifty points to roll over throughout the week. Oh I get thirty five. Okay Okay here we go on my thing. Is that thing that you the best way to lose. Weight is not use those but I do. Of course I'm using the weekend that's when I truly this week and I went to the regency on Fridays. I WANNA Martini. I don't know why I did it. How many points Martini? I think because it's why do I do would dirty Martini. So the Jin was for the olive juice I think was three allergies was because I thought nothing but I think the way that the juices. Because I'm looking this up right right now. Olive juice for real six olives. Large is once they only put three. So that's how okay. Okay then all of juice. Let's say I thought I looked it up in the air. We go dirty Martini olive juice half an ounce one so you got one for that one for that and then you've got the GIN Gin Gin Vermouth. Is that really in it. Gin vermouth I don't know what for Maria Martinez okay. So you know what I'm Martinez. Like five point honestly a glass of wine. Four five ounce. Well that's what I haven't had a glass of wine. That's five ounces since my communion like I literally I like maybe on at shirt. Yeah Ah poor until I feel well now that you're in. I always go to Jersey poor and now that you know that because you're from New Jersey because it more depressing 'cause they're like they're trying to figure out Ez pass the other like why do we live in New Jersey anyways so yes so basically. I don't know I mean. Are we going to say on it. I maybe do we have to be other just dominant. I will hate you at the end of it so I'm just going to like when I think of Taylor. I think I need to lose weight eight. And she's telling me I can't have wine. Yeah exactly so but what I like to. It's easy what the weight watchers go to people you. Can they put restaurants in it. So there's a lot of chains that you can see because I know when you're working in the city or you're working wherever you're working and you're like I don't have the time to meal. Prep my entire life away. Yeah you can go to like a starbucks and a half points. Mo- things that's a lot of points tape there but like panara about don't get donuts. I loved on and actually I'm going to give a little hack. Okay here. Are the ways here. My my top three pretends on surviving weightwatchers number. One Wendy's Chili. Oh I'm telling you I'm telling you I'm telling you okay. Wendy's Chili is so fucking good. Okay you live in New Jersey for one month and you're like Wendy's Chili. No this is my whole life watchers. I don't get the crackers. It's fucking not worth it fills you up and it's on the road and I know chilly feels like food but it really is so good for you and like I mean I four points for small six points for large. Let's good you are full four fucking ever so there you go on that one. Okay my second tip is really well. The thing is I know because is When you go grocery shopping with the Barco that's my new hack? I'm now grocers takes me two hours. 'cause I'm just literally scanning every food would I can eat but now there's there's things that auto let's go. This is two points. You don't have to do it. I was like Tortilla wraps at one point. Shut your feet. Are they call. They're called like pornos or something like that. I know my I second my second one is if you have a trader. Joe's thank God for you but good. I mean you're like blessed person so trader. Joe's has their fat-free crumbled fettah. She's is normally you Kinda have to stay away from it is zero point zero fucking points the Greeks to everything better. I met here my third one. Okay it's an easy go to dinner. It's delicious it's decadent and it's maybe one point zero if you actually use the crumbled Thatta and only use like so take Zucchini which is cheap and available all year round slice. It thins incident circles K.. Take Pam Spray. Is your new best friend. I don't care if he was olive. Oil or butter doesn't matter it's up to you. Cover that Shit and Pam until you're going to have diarrhea attack then you put down you like it was almost like a you. Cover the whole entire pan sides to within slices of Zucchini try. medium-to-high get really fucking going. Flip them over. You want them to like Brown not to crispy Brown. And you're going to be mixing up like either egg white. You can also just throw in an egg yolk in there. I do three egg whites and one regular egg Yolk which actually on my plan is still zero points. Jagtar the fucking best and Dan. You basically make this like for Todd Omelette and then you can take either. Like to one tablespoon are Parmesan cheese or USA. If you want zero. It is a huge huge fill. Fill a huge plate. That's the thing to use small plates but even this it will fill a big plate and you. I am telling you will be full to your eyeballs. It's quick and easy for dinner and feel decadent and you can also hot sauce up. Also if you need something you can do like adult of like produce fat cream sour cream and probably also Greek yogurt point. And that's what I do feel like you have to. I mean like this is what I'm telling myself. You have to have fun with it in the sense of like. I like beating the system where I'm like. How can I make a meal that I will love? That is like two points and I feel like I'm winning weightwatchers. I'm What I WANNA do is I want every meal to be like three points or under and that I want to drink the rest in wind and I want to fucking change on the scale and I wanNA feel like I'm fucking when I want to feel reborn I literally today? I just posted on my instagram. While they'll let me pull up and I mean this with all my heart what I'm about to read to you I'm GonNa leave you on a note of inspiration hate when I say I WANNA lose weight and people say you could quit drinking like okay. I could also quit eating but that would be ridiculous. That would be concerned. And SORTA like no. I WanNa die where I can also and still lose weight. Okay as Whitney Houston says no matter what you take from me. You can't take my dignity and my dignity is a Pinot noir so I yeah I don't care you guys. That's it for us today. Thank you for joining thank you so much. I can't wait. I can't wait for us to be a new people. I know my twenty. 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Ep - 145 - CAITLIN FROM LOVER AFTER LOCKUP

Reality Life with Kate Casey

46:24 min | 1 year ago

Ep - 145 - CAITLIN FROM LOVER AFTER LOCKUP

"This episode of reality life with Cape Casey is brought to you in part by milk. Keep listening to discover how milk adds more to your day. Now, here's the show. Avai amazing cake. JC welcome back to another episode of reality. Life of Casey, I hope that you guys are having a great week. It's been basically torrential ren- poor here in southern California for the last four days and between people not knowing how to drive in the rain and my kids being cooped up inside. I'm about to lose my mind. But fortunately, I've been watching a bunch of good TV shows. So the first thing I was really excited about was that they finally announced the cast list or contestant list for celebrity big, brother. And there are a lot of good names on there. One of which is candy Burress from real housewives of Atlanta. I'm not sure how far she's going to get. I think that she's got a great low key personality. So she can kind of go under the radar, but we all know, you push your too much you push your buttons. She could explode. So I think she'll be in the finals. But I don't know if she'll go all the. Way. I don't I see Joey Lawrence making it very far. I think that his vanities really important him. So not having the appropriate razors to shave his very specific facial hair might be an issue Lolo Jones is an athletic powerhouse. But what is she going to do when they run out of vegetables in the house, and she has to eat bags of Doritos that could be an issue. I don't think Tom green will go very far. I think he's pretty boring, and I don't know. I don't know if there's anybody else that really blows my hair back. But I think that scare Mucci is the one to win because he's from New York he self made. I feel like people who are conservative. We're gonna like them because he worked in the Trump campaign even for six days, and then people who abhor Donald Trump will appreciate him because he got fired. I think it could be an issue for him that he can't really work out because I spoke to his assistant to try to book already, and she said that. Working out. It's really important to him. So from what I've heard of the big brother house, you know, with basically on a studio set they put a lot of the equipment in the outside area. And that's where some of the workout equipment is. So they don't want people to work out during the day the Equipment's out there. So some of them have told me that you know, there's only like two days, you can really be outside. So that means you've got a workout inside. I mean is Lolo Jones going to be doing sprints back and forth between the kitchen and the dining room. I mean, I I don't know about that also food is a big factor. So when they do shopping at the beginning of the show, they're going to get all these great vegetables where they're going to be the first things to go, and then they're left with bags of like Doritos and Luna bars. And I just think for some of these people who aren't gluten free dairy free organic pacified pesticide-free diet that it might make them go a little bit crazy. Also, it's basically recirculated air the entire time there in the house so kind of picture it like you're on an airplane. Lane or you're stuck in some weird dental office. That's what they have to live through. So I think that's going to actually get to a bunch of them. But I also am not excited about Kato kaylin. I feel like everybody's had a little bit too much OJ fatigue. So I'm ready for him to leave a house in the shows that even started yet. So if you wanna do me a favor, you can jump on the live feeds, and then you could be the boots on the ground re resource and kind of let us know what's going on during the day. So that we can watch the telecast. And then we can all compare notes this week's episode. I'm really excited about this show is called love after lockup a lot of people are into it. Some people are still not aware the joy that it will bring them. There are actually people who communicate with people behind prison walls with the hope that they can have a romantic connection. One of the cast members this season is this. Really sweet girl named Caitlin. And she's in a relationship with a guy that she met as I mentioned behind bars, and she's going to tell you how they met how they were cast. But the show and how she sees a future with him even though he has been incarcerated. So please know that that I asked Emily longer read from us weekly about this new show or true sensation called the mast singer. And that's on FOX. So it it has a celebrities from varying degrees that are dressing up in costumes to hide their hide themselves. So people have to guess who they are some of the singers or fantastic. Some of them are not so great. But the whole guessing game behind it is pretty interesting, and she goes inside baseball and kind of tells us how the show was conceived. And then I asked Danny Murphy who is a comedian and writer to review temptation island that gem of a show is back on the air. And so I wanted to see what he thought about the premiere episode. I should also note that next week's guest is going to be Mark Walberg, not Donnie Wahlberg and Mark Wahlberg. But Mark Wahlberg who was the host of the first temptation island series. He's back again. And I really wanna ask him what what's going on behind the scenes, especially when the camera crew packs up and leaves the house. So here we go. 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And I'm thrilled to tell you that I've tracked down Caitlin Caitlin. How are you? I am good. How are you Kate? Good. All right. Let's get down to brass tacks. Because I am fascinated by the show. And I know so many other people are see you found it. There's some story there. We it's it's like an improbable love story, you found love with somebody who is in prison, and for those of us in the other like outside of this world, tell us how it's possible to meet someone behind bars. You know, honestly, I wasn't even it was completely Oxydental for me. To stumble across Matt I wasn't necessarily looking for love or anything. I look bored. One day kinda I don't know if anyone has hopped on Craigslist out of boredom and read personal ads or whatever just 'cause they're kinda comical, right? And I you know, I'm kind of doing that one day. And all of a sudden here is this really attractive, man. And he just so happens to be imprisoned. And oh, boy, he is really cute. What do I do? I responded to the Ogden it just kinda from there. Somebody had posted the odd for him. And then our correspondents, you know, once I responded to the ad started with Jay, which is I guess prison Email system, they can send emails videos picture, you know, stuff like that. And that's really how it started. Okay craigslist. I'm shocked by this. I thought Craigslist was like where you find like an old crib or an old count. There's an area like this personals. There used to be from what I understand that. And I don't know why. But what I understand is the personal thought in Craigslist no longer this anymore because it was being used for you know, who knows what? Solicitation. There's no monger. Why would I you know, I I can only assume you know, what I mean? I'm but. Where Matt's advocacy was actually strictly platonic area of it. So it wasn't like ham looking to hook up or anything like that. It was basically, you know, people just look into shoot the shit. Okay. None of that exists on Craigslist anymore. So you go to find a creek not a lover again. So do you have any friends or family that said to you at the time? Oh, okay. We're a little bit worried that you're communicating with somebody in prison. So to be totally honest with you. I did kind of keep it on the hush. Yeah. I didn't know where it was going to go. You know, I definitely didn't walk into our communication thinking that this man was going to sweep the off my feet. I had no clue. Like, really, I was you know, for someone to talk to he was attractive, whatever wherever this goes. It goes I was not by any means expecting. To fall in love the way that I did. So I kept it on the hush with that. And you know, once I did kind of come out and tell people to really take those once I did. So my family, of course, everybody was apprehensive. My family wasn't incredibly supported my friends probably a little bit harshly lot more supportive than than my family. You know? So it makes you happy. Then, you know, we're here to support you whereas my family like this does not sound like a good idea. We're not Ortho. Thank you. How can you be? Sure. How could you be sure that he was not in communication with other women since it's not like you can meet up with him for coffee or anything, you know. And there were a couple of times that it did cross my mind, but I don't I I it's in my head. I guess it's not really any different than a long distance relationship. It wouldn't be any different. It's were you know, let's say was in the military stationed in North Carolina. And I. Living in Washington. You know? I can't you know, what if it's not something. There's always that possibility. You know, wherever somebody is. So do you do you Google him? Because that would be my first thing that I would do is. I would get the name of my everything. The first thing I did before even responded to the creek bed with Google him to see what has charges were. Because if they were anything too crazy. No, thank you. You know, if he was in their commercial or violent or you know, some weirdo stuff. There was no way. I was going to respond to didn't fire. How you and what we're his charges? So the alluding and possession. Did did that worry you at the time possession? Well, I'm thinking possession of what you know. What I mean? And and I did have reservations about it. But. I'm not the type of person like everybody comes from somewhere. Everybody has a pass everyone made mistakes. So I'm you know, I wasn't just going to write him off. Because you know, he screwed up. You know, let's be honest quite a few times, I learned throughout my communication with him. You know, it she. Wants to do like, this is pack, you know, and he's going to get out and do things differently. And and forward with like, you know, just because somebody screws up once or, you know, fifteen times sometimes it takes us a little bit longer to learn. Everybody's different, you know. But I wasn't just gonna write him off because he came from. You know, some are kind of shitty at one point. We'll tell me a little bit about your son. Did you have a history of bad relationships? Were you married anytime like what what was your romantic background before this? I. I mean, I've had serious relationships from this. And that but I don't. He was the first person that ever made me feel like it was okay to be me. And I'm not going to claim that I'm perfect. I've ever been perfect. You know, because I've, you know. How does use of my own in the past? They don't have any type of criminal record or anything like that. Like, I said we all make mistakes. I come from, you know, kind of a broken family broken household, and you know, it just. It just felt right? So you keep in contact. And you've you've googled him. And he's writing letters you have to take a leap of faith that he's not communicating with other people. If people are in relationships with somebody behind bars, I watched on the show that some people are sending it looks like cell phone footage from inside the cell. How our the back. That that I have no idea that Wu the away as I'm watching episodes with y'all like, I'm like, wait a minute. I never he couldn't even send me a picture without his shirt on. So how are other people getting you know, these so fun pictures that are pretty provocative? I think anyway, you know, and and I get, you know, slept Hanson, we high socks and fully clothed, then you know. One hand touches that blows me away. I have no idea how that was pulled off. So do you reach out to his family before you guys meet up? Did you talk with his friends? Did you kind of get some more insight into who he was before you met? I didn't really have any communication with this fun. I started talking food mom, you know, maybe two months before his release he needed to get a hold of her and he couldn't. So he asked me to call her, and I was really excited 'cause you know, this is more insight into him 'cause up until that point I had known him from out of his mouth. And that was that. So he's like, hey, call my mom, you know, and I need her to do this like, oh, can I talk to her, you know, like really excited. And the first time I talked to Kathy we spend about two hours on the phone, and it was a super cool experience, you know, because we really talk from. You know about everything, you know, me my childhood Matt match childhood. You know, what he's been for what I've been through. And I really after I got up a phone recur. I felt so good. I guess the best way for me to put it and it allowed me to love on that a little bit harder. Were you in were you at any point concerned about sharing too much personal information should the should the relationship not work out? What do you mean by too much information? Like you're in communication with him. You're talking about your life your past. And then you you spoke with his mom you had met with him yet physically. So were you and this person is buying, you know, behind bars, you you have, you know, you're communicating with somebody that has a history where you at all concerned about, you know, maybe I should not share all of myself or everything about myself because it might compromise my safety at any point or my privacy. No, you know, my safety has never been any type of concern when it comes to my relationship with Matt because he. Honestly has made me feel the safest anybody has has made me feel how do you wrap your brain about brain around like, okay? He's gonna come out. Will he be able to get a job? How long will it take before he can make some income? He's were absolutely valid points concerns. These all out that. I absolutely had you know, because. I knew he kinda lengthy rap sheet. You know, and one phony makes it difficult to find a job and living at all of that. So what does multiple felonies, do, you know? So I knew it was going to be hard. I don't think I knew Beckley how hard and here's the thing. You know? I oh there's so much that goes into the. I know that I'm more than capable of going out getting a job and doing all this. And that is that I I've done it my whole life. You know what I mean? And him. And I we'd had conversations about it. And I've had conversations with Cathy about it. You know, getting a job for him is going to be difficult. You know, it might have to be something that he create like, you know, go create your landscaping thing or, you know, do h fach and stuff like that. So he is notable and areas but going and getting a nine to five banking job with something that would never on the table. It was never expected. Like, it's I don't think that is reasonable said. So in the event that you guys have kids when when you're pregnant when you're nursing all those things the other person, your partner has to sometimes do the heavy lifting. So the idea of having a family did that stress you out at all knowing that you would have to lean on him financially. I mean, again, it's it's they are thoughts that have crossed my mind. But. Him getting out of prison. And it just seemed to just that with such a big thing. It's kind of one day at a time. But these are all things that you know, I got someone on my shoulders. They hold on think about this before you actually, do it. You know? Yeah. Tell everybody about how you decided where you're gonna live once he got out. Well, realistically are planned was not kick on to his mom. It was to stay with my family and not kind of Crump old. And she saw right there at the end right before he got out and matinee had had a discussion. You know, he was apprehensive about coming to mom because it's, you know, mixed emotions Luton, and his childhood and this and that and he had been around for however, many years, but at the end of the day, we could put our heads together, you know, lay down together at the end of the day go to bed together. And that would be only place that we could do that at the time. So that was the best option. It was the only place that we had that we could go and be together and people would offer the port and how in a way that we needed at that time, you know, try and make it work the best, you know, they could. So he was apprehensive. You know, I think everybody was a little apprehensive. It's not an ideal situations we get out getting out of prison back into moms with a girlfriend. You're thirty. I'm thirty two like, it's not ideal. But it was the best that we had at the time. You know what I mean? How did you find out about the show Kathy posted something and of support group on Facebook? And I think it was just a little blurb saying, you know, I'm really excited by wrapping our preen after sent you know, he's met a girl such carts rated that relationship with great. He's getting out soon. And I'm so excited to see where life takes them and somebody from casting had seen that reached out to Kathy Kathy called me and a day or two later, I was on the phone with casting. Wow. Okay. So the came RAs caught you the day that he was released. Getting busy in the goals. Is it ever? So do are now that you that's aired. Are you cringing? Are you owning it are you do you laugh about it? I have to laugh about it a little bit because their husband backlash, and I'm sitting here. And, you know, while I you know, whatever the cameras were there we have to remember that. I had not seen him without his shirt off. I'd not seen him. I didn't even know what his feet looks like this had been, you know, however, many months of building, you know, of communication, multiple Email full phone, call so much intention. And then finally he's out you know, we are. Five hours away from I'm home realistically, you know, four or five hours away, depending on traffic, and then a little the woods YoM. We're around to a cabin. But like enough is enough. I need to export him. He needs to explore me. We need to have a second. And you know, the backlash is oh my God. They were the woods. Why couldn't they say a car? You know, what we are shows him, and I've got my hand up right now. 'cause when see me do it who has best around in the woods. What was it everything that you had hoped it to be? I would hope so you waited three years tell you right now that I was not disappointed even though there were like sticks in your hair. You know, whatever I had worse, I've met them flux there. But so, you know, I didn't have any chicks embedded in me. You know, there wasn't using growing from me. I don't have any we're diseases. Then we're all right. Was he taking college courses when he was in jail. No, he took a some, soap, carving, classes, some what classes. What pardoning oh. Learn how to mar folks hot it. Well, and he he, yeah, he's got some certificates from that advanced so carving. So that's really cool. Right. Do you ever worry that he might go back? I know he had some trouble recently. But like. Does that ever keep you up at night? Like, he might go back, and then we're going to be right back where we started from. I mean, I could let it keep me up at night. I I'm -solutely. Could are the thoughts. There is the worry. There's yes, sir. But I'm not going to allow myself to sit in dwell on. What could happen if it happens it happens? And then we figure it out from there. I'm gonna worry for you. Because you're thirty two. And you're obviously extremely charismatic and you've got a great personality. And you're obviously, very bright. And I want the best for you. I'm hopeful that the three years that you spent with him are not wasted. When there could be somebody that you could meet who, you know, doesn't have these sort of issues and can provide for you, the emotional and financial, and you know, spiritual or whatever support that you deserve. I just I hope as I watched the show that you know, your own self worth. And what you are worth. Anybody has to bring something to the table. Got to be mutual effort. Yeah. You know? And and I appreciate and I have, you know, the same concern because chances are, you know? The. He had a past of being a certain way. And and my head is kind of like. It's it happens. You know, what really sucks, and I'm really hurt that I'm not one. If he goes back in prison. I'm not the one that goes back to its hint. Right. So my life is not get put on hold. I to carry on Ed re day because I'm not the one sitting grits. You know, if nothing else will be able to look back on and kind of see, you know, years later who knows what's going to happen. A year from our three years from Nash, do I wanna meet somebody else? No, not totally has my heart. I don't know why. Or how whatever, but that's just the way it's worked out, and he regrets being on the TV show, or do you think it's been valuable like what what do you want people to know about you outside of the show? I think the only thing I really want to say about that is, you know, you're seeing a part of my life. Archie. So, you know, obviously, people are going to judge in. That's one thing. You know? I really try not be super judgmental. We life is different for everybody. It was a pleasure talking to you. I like you very much, and I'm hopeful that over the fun. But I'm telling you, I think you're gonna meet somebody else. Don't get. I don't want Matt Matt. But I think that's what's gonna I'm not gonna tell them that that because it probably would be make them a little cranky. I don't know. But you know, I met my have something, you know. We're definitely we definitely have a story. The mask singer is hosted by Nick cannon with panelists Ken Jong Jenny McCarthy. Nicole Zinger, Robin Thicke Joel McHale, and it is a top secret singing competition in which celebrities face off against one another while unbelievably shrouded from head to toe in an elaborate costume concealing their identity and with each performance, the host, panelists audience viewers, and even other contestants are left guessing who the singer is behind the mask. Now, the singer may attempt to throw off the crowd, but keen observers might pick up on tiny clues burried throughout the show each week singers eliminated, and then reveals his or her true identity here to speak with me today about this weird show is none other than you know, her because you've probably read a bunch of articles on the us weekly website is Emily longer Eto from us weekly. Welcome to the show. Thank you so much for having me. I was loved the way that you cover so many shows that we all love what show do you? Find people get the most fired up about. Oh my gosh. There are so many. But honestly, like I have to save the messing recently just goes viral people are so obsessed with this Creevy conception of show. So do we know whose idea it was wasn't Nick cannon's idea? No. So this actually generated in South Korea. And it was a huge hit in South Korea. Ryan Reynolds, actually, like did it and in his deadpool costume before deadpool came out when anyone who was so that's kinda how it really got its start and the producer of the apprentice and dealer no deal saw on TV well in a Chinese restaurant, and everyone was watching it. So he was like I need to know what this is long term. He ended up getting the rights and pushing it to America, do you think that that's why people think that there could be some movie star underneath one of these masses. Because Ryan Reynolds did it in Korea. Yeah. I think that is part of it. Because it's hard to say, you know, when you're watching it, and they yell out. Like, oh, it could it be lady Gaga. I mean you and I know lady Gaga, it's not doing this show. So. Hey navy? Maybe it gets a season two. But I pretty sure I can pay ninety nine percent, sure. At one of those things that's not lady Gaga. He's that the weirdest part. I that's the thing. That's trippy me up about the show because I feel like I've watched enough shows to know that there are group of people that hop from show to show. So I'm just waiting for one of them to be like Carney Wilson, you know, Tori, spelling I feel like there are certain people that love to do these kind of shows. So it's highly unlikely let's say, for example that Emily blunt is underneath a unicorn costume. Right. Exactly. And I think that's the that's what people are slowly learning. But I think also we have to remember that the judges this was filmed over a very short time amount of time in the fall over a couple of days. So I think the judges had no idea net cannon hosting it had no idea who they were. So of course, they're going to get sick people because they're like, you know, we don't know what what could this be? Is. It a dancing with the stars where it's these celebrities that you make their round, or is it, you know, show that's gonna land huge search. So how did they keep the secret for so long because I kind of remember Jenny McCarthy filming it in the fall. I do kind of remember that. So how have they been able including the audience members to keep the secret for so long? Yeah. No. That's what I the first thing that I asked them when I talked all of them before the premiere, and I was still confused about the concept because obviously like we had it's it's out there. We never seen anything like it get. So basically they be contestants when they came on and win. They got cast on the show. They were sequestered completely separate. So they had to go to different meeting places. They didn't own meet at the FOX offices. So they had to go all meet at separate places. And then once they did come to shoot not only were they in costume. But their team when they arrived to the show their publicists aged managers anyone who was with them. Also wasn't costume as well as the celebrity. So that way if Nick cannon no new this person was managed by someone Hollywood the small bubble. So if Robin Thicke and Jenny McCarthy recognized someone or to Canada, recognize them what they put that in their heads. Like, oh, that's music manager. So this is the singer. They wanted to avoid any of that. Could god. So do you think this was the most coveted job of the fall to to be involved with this show? I mean, even the person bringing coffee most of had to sign a ridiculous NDA. Yeah. The paperwork behind the scenes must be so insane. I guess one of the producers was also saying that the legal team is very very involved because if someone does sweet something or save something there's legal ramifications, everyone is really signed their live away to this. And I think it's slipped under the radar people. Didn't know this show was coming know wasn't promoted for like a year ahead of time. So I think once I got promoted people were a little confused, and then came out and the first night, it got nine million viewers, and people were very curious what they were missing. Okay. And then the other question I have is how did they get the talent to come on? What was I would love to know what the right up was with the description was it's going to be this variety show. But you're going to be wearing some sort of weird costume, right? Absolutely. I think it was a lot of them sending them be trailer and the success number from South Korea's version because once you see that this show did so well in some of these celebrities who works huge stars got even more famous from it the stars that maybe aren't so famous or are. But in a different way, that's you know, kind of thing if somebody's athletes, obviously, no one knows their singer. It's kinda give them away to show off a talent in a different light. So I think that that's why they're drawn to it. Okay. A couple of weeks ago. I feel like I saw a picture and people were thinking that it's a possibility. The KENDALL Jenner is one of the contestants. Do you think that that's a possibility? I do not think that and of course, I don't know because I was not at filming. But I don't think it's possible that they Kardashian Jenner would would want to do this. So I just can't see that happening. My worry is that they're all sort of like low level celebrities because the us far we've seen in Tonio Browns football player and Terry Bradshaw. I have a snuck in suspicion that the peacock may be Donny Osmond. Do you have any? Yes. So Donny Osmond is definitely a top contender for that one with the hints that he's given. But I have my few other guesses that I think in pretty short like pretty confirmed would be Tori, spelling at who. I know you mentioned earlier. So you're right on the go with that one would be the unicorn she's made some hints about Beverly Hills. She thinks hits about being part of a family. That's giving her a hard time over the years, and she actually called herself victorious, I think I think that's that's that one. And then my other big guesses would be Rumer Willis as the lion and he'd paying as the monster. Now, these are just guesses. I have no idea. But from offer clues that's my. First of all Rumer Willis, that's like going deep inside baseball. That's incredible. That's an incredible guess, how did you come up with that one? Okay. So she she dresses the lion. And first of all you can see she has like a killer body underneath a lion costume. She also said that her family was Hollywood royalty. We all know remember parents are Demi Moore, and Bruce Willis, but that she had this voice. She didn't really get to show off much her voices. Incredible make sense she was in Chicago on Broadway. And then the lion concept. She has a lion hat to on her shoulder. And she was in empire the Lyon family, so those that's my guesses. Emily. I'm gonna tell you this. If you don't want to write for us weekly anymore. You need to go to Vegas because that's pretty impressive. And you know, what I think you might be right? And if and if you are, right. She might even get like a better gig out of this like a recording contract or something. Boy, that's the biggest thing. People are also saying about t pain who people believe is the monster. I don't really know what about you paying. But his whole story is that he's done something that put him away for a while or put him in a bad light. And people see him as a monster. You pain has legal trouble last year. So maybe that's why. But regardless this guy can sing. So I think if this comes out that it's keeping he needs to put out an album. That's not auto tuned to show like, wow, I can really think like he's very impressive. All right. If you're not into this. I think Emily has just convinced you that you need to put this on your DVR immediately. 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Or should I stay with my partner for the rest of my life over this period. The couples get the opportunity to answer questions about themselves and one another and define out. If what they think they want is actually what they really want. And here with me to review this show. Is none other than Danny Murphy, comedian New York based writer, he writes, Marie-Claire betcha. Glamour? He's hysterical. Welcome to the show. Danny. Thank you so much. I know this show is insane. And when you ask me like do you want to do? Yes, please. It is crazy. So the first thing I have to say is that one of my favorite things when I watched one of these shows where you're tempted with someone else possibly having sex with you is that inevitably the couple that's together says I think that this is gonna make us stronger. Would you agree with? I'm like, I don't know when everyone's like, no this is good for relationship. I'm kind of like that's like whenever I'm like if I'm on a diet. I'm not going to go to like, a bui- all you can eat it. I hop. So the first couple is Cherie, I think that's sharee Cherie and Jeevan. So they've been together since high school as they say, so they need to explore other people they need to see if this is this is the relationship. They're supposed to be in what we soon. Learn about these two is that they're both nuts. They both have trust issues. They cannot be over each other side. Then we've got Katie and John they live in the midwest. And she really wants an alpha male. She was like a cowboy who will like throw her into a truck. Oh my God. Right. That's where I was just kind of like when they when I thought like you should break up like this, isn't you don't need to like go to the island and get sunburned just realize I oh, we're not happy to go. You can say that right now now, Nicole and Carl have trust issues. She looks like a like a a low level Kardashian. And he looked all my. Somebody who appeared once on American injure warrior, but didn't make it through the first phase, you're yeah. You're like emigrations for like, oh guy something. Yeah. He has not looked at him. And I'm also stuff where where they met because that is something that would never happen to me and my entire life. The fact that they met at a gym gross. Yeah. He said while in the comfort of their cramped apartment before they left for Maui. I just worry that she might do to me what she did to the guy. She was dating when I met her. And that is to leave me for another man. Yeah. You know, what Karl you you probably probably dead on that. She probably will. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Then we have Casey and Evan now. They're both twenty eight years old. His dad was murdered by his bass came that hit yet. I know he said that his mother's boyfriend murdered his father. And because of that he has a hard time with. Commitment wool. Yeah. I would think so and the girlfriend is from some super religious family who we weeps when they're talking to her boyfriend because they're concerned they're living in sin, and that whole never get around to proposing to her and by the way, he probably won't. So they all go to Maui on this beautiful pontoon. They show up there to bans that are side by side. And he opens the night the Mark Wahlberg the host. He gave a toast and said, I hope that you guys are gonna find the answers, then they all are sitting there in these seats, and I love how they put them in seats like stadium seating is if they're at a football game. And then we're God. Right. They put on this waterfall and underneath a waterfall fields. They very TLC scrubs. There are about thirty single people. I don't know maybe I'm exaggerating. But I was like you'll maybe three I have to say. Not totally impressive the group. Okay. I kinda was I'm like this. Just look play went into like unexpressed on an express men in like a strip mall. Someone like everybody you're going to how you're gonna mail. It truly was a Cathy Jean crowd included in that car. Was he Hannah an entrepreneur at twenty two. Well, listen, if you know once an entrepreneur twenty two an entrepreneur, I bet she probably works on a yacht. Because I'm not I don't mean like a below deck crew. I mean like she goes to Dubai and hangs out with strangers. Johnny is a chiropractor really could take time off of work to come to a Maui for twenty five days. James, right. A designer early Minogue. That is Brit is yoga teacher. Of course. She is Alan. Radiate light alleys an academic advisor. Sure. She is Kayla is a success leader. No idea what that is Roman is a sales rep, which probably means he's unemployed Morgan's, really chant. What are your thoughts on wearing a prom gown in the opening sequence of a show like this? What is it about the wearing a prom ground over the age of seventy and I have it is sort of like you're on an island and those like, you know, there's gonna be a water future about it's like truly. It's like kind of like a rain shower on cloth splurged. But then it's like no one else is in that people just trust normally address what kind of Beechy to be with him. And then she's full on all out sucking and kind of like like, Honey, boo. Boo status. Like, no, this is not the re the room. Most of these people. I feel are retired bachelor contestants like they've aged out of the bachelor or they didn't they were turned away. Yeah. Returned away. The either didn't qualify either the. The medical evaluation the mental evaluation or they've aged out of the bachelor the next part of the episode that you guys should know is that. The the people who are in relationships are getting to evaluate the pool of candidates and Shari who's the first couple who's been with her boyfriend since she was in high school. She everyone. There was an audible gasp when she said she was not impressed with the male contestants. Oh, some one of them was a barber. I made the chiropractor is pretty pissed he overheard that and competitor on it, whatever one eight it. I mean, I guess I worked back by all the girls. Now hate her. Oh, they said she was crazy. And I think that they do have about going instead of giving them roses like the bachelor what they do is. They give them necklaces. I think that JV in is going to end up with Jeffrey Jeffrey is actually a woman. Her name is spelled J E F F R. I I guess that's for possess. She is the airline stewardess. I think they're going to end up together. I think that oh they were too. Yeah. I think the guy who spa. Father was murdered is probably not gonna end up with anybody. Because I think he's too much of a mental in a mental space to to. He's like a little slip for the couple that met at the gym. They will both meet someone else, and they will never be to each other after the show the couple from the mid west that the met on bumble the one that's like the album, not the alpha male. I think they're going to get married. I think that they've they're they're they're towing the line of AG out of the show already. And they're going to find that. No, one liked either one of them that said, I'm going to watch every single episode of the show will you? Oh, I'm hooked. Oh, I'm so hooked. And also, I hope you don't I went because I went to a happy hour last night. And then I went I was going to go watch show now, and I like humor, go rita's. And I was like five latte loving the show so much like this is how it should be watched kind of like rolling around with the insanity of it, and I'm hooked. 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E160: The Gatton Tragedy Pt. 2 - Australias Murphy Family Murders

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E160: The Gatton Tragedy Pt. 2 - Australias Murphy Family Murders

"I'm vanessa richardson introducing a new podcast original today in true crime today he is tuesday august twentieth two thousand nineteen on this day in nineteen sixty six the bodies of two brazilian electricians missions manuel bed ada crews and miguel josiah viana were found atop vin tame hill in the rio de janeiro suburb of of nita roy. What made this discovery so notorious was. The strange lead masks covering the dead. Men's is giving giving this incident. The colloquial name of the lead masks case today and true crime is podcast cast new daily show that relives the biggest true crime events from each day in history. Don't miss today's full episode follow today in true true crime for free on spotify and anywhere you listen to podcasts now due to the graphic nature of this case listener discretion is advised this episode includes dramatization and discussions of murder and assault that some people may find offensive. We advise extreme caution for children under thirteen jesus. It's just too boy fifteen years old. He's been dead awhile. A single bullet was fired through his right ear and the pony shot in the forehead while taking a drink sound familiar too familiar. What about the feet pointing to west just like the murphy's. How could we have overlooked this. He's been missing for over a month. Do we have anything a couple of witnesses. Witnesses saw drifter coming through here about a month ago. One claims they saw him with a shiny revolver any idea where he went. We know someone who does. We just have to make him talk this. This is unsolved murders true crime stories on the podcast network. I'm your host carter. Roy and i'm your host wendy mckenzie you can find episodes of unsolved unsolved murders and all other podcast originals for free on spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts to stream unsolved murders for free on spotify just to open the app tap browse type unsolved murders in the search bar. This is our final episode on the gatt murders. Three mysterious slayings committed ed near the town of gotten australia in eighteen ninety eight last week. We covered the background of the murders and the discovery of the first crime scene this week week. We'll discuss the disastrous police investigation that followed and the increasing tension and the gap in community new episode comes out every tuesday you can also find us on facebook and instagram at par cast and on twitter at park cast network if you enjoy the podcast the best way to help us to leave a five if star review wherever you're listening it really does help on the morning of december twenty seventh eighteen ninety eight three siblings mick nora and ellen murphy were found dead outside the town of gatt australia all three had their hands bound and were beaten viciously prior to their deaths. There were signs that they had been sexually assaulted. Two bodies were discovered every by their brother in law william mcneill. He went out searching for the siblings when they did not arrive home from a dance the previous night after leading police sergeant in arizona the crime scene william went to break the news to his inlaws. It was a particularly unpleasant task as he had a rocky relationship with the elder murphy's they were strictly irish catholic and disapproved of his protestant faith when their eldest daughter polly had married william two years was prior. They disowned her and had only recently accepted her back into the family. Along with william nevertheless william rushed from the scene of the murder backed act the murphy family farm about a forty five minute ride. He arrive close to eleven in the morning. Oh there you are mcneil. Do you want any eggs there a little cold but they're good. No thank you mrs murphy. Did you find the children. I swear when they get here. They're in for the whooping of a lifetime. We'll yes. Yes i found them. What's the matter you look awful mic nora ellen. They're they're all dead. It looks like there was an accident or something. I found them in mourns pasture. I got all three of them. Mom what's going on. Oh fail. It's horrible my mcneil. The dead pill such a mess. You never saw all your life upon hearing the news. One of the elder murphy sons bill road wrote out to a distant patch of farmland to find his father. After mr murphy was told his children were dead. It took the old man almost a half an hour to recover over when he was finally able to mount his horse. Yes bill if his children had been shot. The only other thing he said on the long ride back home was that he was glad they had all gone to mass on christmas. Day is bill in his father returned home. William took mrs murphy in the family buggy to the marin pasture. The bodies were found to speak to the police. However sergeant arrow was no longer at the crime scene. He started investigating the crime scene at ten a._m. But left after only thirty minutes apparently in his rush to leave the station he had forgotten his notebook. He needed to head back to get in to retrieve shreve the notebook and also to report the murders to his superiors. Before he left he asked to of the townsfolk who had accompanied him to the pasture a blacksmith smith named wilson and a man named of it to make sure nobody got near the bodies then he galloped off towards town back in gadston sergeant errol picked picked up his notebook and went to the telegraph office there he meant to send a report to the police commissioner and request the help of an indigenous australian tracker. You're one of a group of professionals who were often employed by european colonists to navigate the bush and fine missing persons however for all his haste i sergeant errol's messages were held up at the telegraph office. At the time low priority telegraphs could be delayed by the station master's if if they felt other messages were more important or if other messages were first in line in order to cut through the wait times a person could have their telegraphs smart urgent ensuring that messages about important matters could be relaid from station to station as quickly as possible however urgent telegrams. M.'s cost double the standard rate errol requested that his report be sent an urgent rate however the stationmaster and gavin insisted that errol pay the extra costs on naturally. The stationmaster was incorrect. Police were authorized by law to mark telegrams as urgent for free. An arrow insisted that was the case the two argued back and forth for some time and inexplicably errol allowed himself to be cowed by the stationmaster russian master of course rather than pay the fee out of pocket herald decided to send the telegram at an ordinary rate sergent era waited at the office for half an hour but received no reply he hurried back to the crime scene unsurprisingly by the time he got there at approximately a quarter your past noon this scene had all been obliterated news of the murders had spread like wildfire through the town and the massive crowd had gathered around the bodies wilson endeavour had done their best to hold the people back but the onlookers paid them no mind. They trampled the area surrounding the bodies. He's making sure that any tracks that may have been left behind by the killer. Were thoroughly erased. Even when aero returned the crowd refused to listen to the reason they stepped back at his orders but would rian coach on the scene. The second he turned away upon his second inspection era found clues he had missed before four there were traces of semen nora and ellen's undergarments and a large branch covered in blood was found near the surrounding trees. The branch was so heavy aerial found difficult to lift above his head while era finished his second examination william and mrs murphy arrived at the pasture. I mrs murphy brought sheets to cover her children's bodies. She begged sergeant aerial to remove the partially undressed bodies from public view by now so at least forty people had congregated around the scene and none were willing to stay back a respectful distance errol wanted to wait for a doctor to arrive before he moved the bodies but eventually mrs murphy's tearful requests combined with the crowds insubordination became too much for him in a moment of supreme cream frustration aero finally agreed to move the bodies nora and ellen were placed in the murphy buggy and mic was laid in another cart. The sergeant remained at the scene and turned his attention to tom. The murphys dead horse. He could tell it had been shot in the forehead. The hair of its main was singed by the gunshot in order to figure out what kind of bullet had been used to shoot the horse. Tom was caught into smaller pieces with arrows supervision. Asian laborers carry the segments to the slaughterhouse outside of town. The horse parts were then boiled down at the end of the boiling process. A single thirty eight caliber bullet was found likely fired from a revolver meanwhile the elder murphy's were comforted by their friends at the brian baru hotel while the local undertaker helped transport the bodies but though so members of the community tried to help others started to spread gossip for for instance the son of the undertaker. William miller was carrying coffins past the hotel when he claimed over here daniel murphy talking to the hotel owner in another man about his children. Have you any idea who did the deed. I do jesus. Are you not afraid to say that. I will not say it to anyone else. I don't want anymore. Lives lost over the affair. Are you sure what was that charlie. Miller ran off immediately to tell his father about the conversation according to him. It sounded like daniel murphy had been drinking a little riddle stories like this led to later speculation about possible hidden motives of the killer or killers. There are reasons to believe. Mr and mrs murphy knew something about the deaths of their children even though it was never proven for example. It's odd that mrs murphy didn't ask any questions when when william told her that the children were dead the only thing mr murphy asked was whether or not they had been shot. They were certainly aggrieved by the deaths but they seemed seemed curiously uninterested in catching the killer. The reactions of the murphy siblings also support this idea the last one to learn the murders was danny murphy a constable who lived in brisbane. Danny received a telegram informing him of the deaths. At twelve thirty pm on december twenty seventh it i i thought it was a cruel joke and went to the telegraph office to verify that the message was real. Once it was confirmed. Danny was overcome by grief. He was overheard to say that the murderer must be a member of his own family. According to danny no one else could have done it with his mind still reeling from the news. Danny requested leave to visit his family. His request quest was passed up the ladder but it stalled at the topmost rung inspector urquhart. The head of the criminal investigation branch of the australian police believed the telegram from gaitan was a hoax later erker would blame a sergeant masterson who spoke to him right after the telegram was received sergeant masterson persson apparently believed the telegram was fake for an unspecified reason erker took his word for it in left for a two hour lunch when he returned to the station he was told there had been no updates on the case why he wasn't told about danny. Murphy's request for leave at this point is unclear. Burkart went back home after spending another hour at the station just as he got home around four fifteen pm a constable caught up to them at at this point was finally told danny murphy had confirmed the telegrams validity and was requesting leave. No other superior officer was available to grant him permission. Clearly the department was not what you'd call. A will oiled machine. Inspector urquhart gave his permission but then despite being asked to immediately immediately returned to his office. He stayed home for another couple of hours and had dinner with his family. It wasn't until seven pm that he returned to his office and it was nine pm by the time. He informed the police commissioner of the crime. The original telegram had been sent from getting at eleven o'clock that morning on by now all tracks around the crime scene had been raced experienced. Police officers were heading to the scene of full day late and detailed questioning had yet to be carried out but the bungling of the case had only just begun. We'll delve deeper into the disastrous astra's murder investigation after this. I like to use the best ingredients when it comes to cooking but but when it came to my daughter and i wasn't a strict so i told myself i'd look for clean ingredients for my body. I tried dozens of natural deodorants but nothing seemed to work worked for me. 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Crime never takes a day off and now they're just park asked follow follow today and true crime for free on spotify and anywhere else you listen to podcasts now back to the story mic nora and ellen murphy were brutally murdered on the night of december twenty sixth eighteen ninety eight from the very beginning of the investigation when police were communicating poorly and making many mistakes these mistakes continued when police sergeant errol called a doctor to the town of gettin australia korea to perform the autopsies in the early afternoon. Dr von las berg arrived in the small town by train on because gotten was too small mall to have its own doctor von loss berg came from the nearby city of ipswich took him some time to find the bodies of the victims they had been move move to a room in the brian baru hotel where the autopsies were finally performed around three pm. Dr von las burg's first examinations were performed hurriedly and superficially. He failed to detect anything that was not obvious from sergeant arizona observations. If found that ellinora had been been struck on the sides of their heads there were scratches on their lower bodies and they had been bound tightly by the wrists before the murders he also determined that they had both been sexually assaulted. The doctor did not examine any of the internal organs of the victims. Though the existence of many deep scratches on norris norris thighs suggested she had been violated by multiple attackers von loss berg did not include that in his official report mix was the third body to be investigated. He had sustained head wounds similar to those of his sisters in addition. His genitals were swollen and there was semen found found on the inside of his trousers. It was not clear what may have caused the presence of bodily fluids and thus the doctor ruled the emission had occurred post mortem mortem. However mixed pants were unbuttoned when he was found and his shirt was tucked into them yet. There was no fluid on the lower part of his shirt. It's it's thus likely mic was also sexually assaulted in his shirt tucked in afterward. This possibility was ignored by the doctor and the bodies were given the okay to be varied william mcneill the murphys brother-in-law organized and paid for the funerals likely as a gesture of compassion to the family. Mr murphy was apparently still too distraught to make any arrangements himself. The next day december twenty eighth the service was held. The entire town was shuttered. Ah flags were flown at half-mast people flocked in from the surrounding areas to attend the funeral all in all they were around a thousand people there twice vice the population of gayton. A small community had ground to a halt the murderers were all anyone could talk about after the funeral. The investigation negation proceeded slowly inspector record arrived during the service too late to examine the bodies for himself. After a week of limited police progress a reward award was publicly offered for information leading to the capture of the killers. The amount was staggering one thousand pounds worth around one hundred sixty sixty thousand dollars today a pardon was also offered to anyone who assisted in the crime or had knowledge of it beforehand as long as they were not the murderer themselves. Unfortunately early on investigators did not receive any useful tips. They were left to wonder amongst themselves about certain aspects of the case like the cause of mcmurphy steph doctor von loss bergh originally declared that he had been killed by blunt force trauma likely from the bloody branch aero found at the scene later. He claimed to have suspicions that mic was shot. It was established that there was definitely a gun at the scene as it was was used to shoot the horse because the confusion could not be cleared up. Inspector urquhart made the extraordinary decision to exhume the bodies and perform a second a second autopsy. The murphys were originally fervently opposed on religious grounds one. Thanks to the intervention of the local priest they eventually assented wanted to avoid public outcry. The operation was carried out in secret at three o'clock in the morning on january fourth just a week after the burial so this is unholy. If you had been thorough during the first examination we wouldn't be in this situation relation. How dare you you try examining a woman without mrs murphy wailing in your ear. It wasn't possible. That's enough complaining. We haven't even gotten the hard part yet. Was mrs murphy really wailing well no but she was certainly sobbing and interrupting me as often as possible. It's as if she paid no heed to the investigation at all as a matter of fact the murphy family has been entirely uncooperative as of late they flat out refused to lend any officers. Is there horses. We had to hire them from the other townsfolk. Every family grieves in its own way. Perhaps the second autopsy performed by a dr ray with dr von loss berg assisting came to very different conclusions than the first dr ray believed unlike von las berg that the victims had been laying down rather than sitting up when they were struck. He also believed a left handed man had dealt the blows on the most most significant finding was a bullet in the skull of mic murphy. Apparently he was struck in the head. After the bullet was fired obscuring during the entry point of the bullet which vaughan loss burke had missed while investigators took in the new information. The murders continued continued to be the number one topic of conversation around town. No actual witnesses to the crime came forward but several people reported hearing gunshots when shots that night one woman who lived on the property adjoining morons pasture swore she heard a woman's voice screaming something that sounded like the word father you're vicious. Rumors were concocted based on the story. One of the most defamatory was that the murphy daughters had incestuous relationships with men in in the family but there was no evidence for the claim besides them mysterious yelling one or the other popular theories was that william mcneill was responsible support for the killings. He had a clear history of disagreement with all three of the siblings giving him a motive. Even some in the murphy family suspected him mm one investigator police sergeant to me claimed patrick and danny murphy both told him they considered william a possible culprit but neither of them were at the house on boxing night. Patrick was riding back to the agricultural college and danny was in brisbane where he was a constable. The murphy's who lived at home were the ones who furnished william with an alibi a most of the murphy saw william at nine p._m. The night of the murders as he headed to bed but but mrs murphy's stayed up late tending to granddaughter she went into poly in williams room and turned off a lamp around eleven pm. According to her william was in bed with polly's sleeping soundly at the time of all the murphys. It seems least likely that she would be the one to lie to the police she she didn't get along with william mcneill just like the rest of the family with mrs murphy's testimony. Williams seemed to have an ironclad alibi but still for patent. Danny need to have suspected william then. They must have felt it was possible. Their mother was lying to protect him if she was lying than it would have been possible for william to sneak sneak out of his window. While everyone else is asleep that night then he could have conceivably written to the more in pasture and caught the siblings on their way back from gadsden but if william mcneill was not the killer it was hard to find someone else with motive mic. Nora and ellen had all been respected within the community. Nora and ellen were kept heavily sheltered by their mother so it's unlikely that they even had the opportunity -tunities to make enemies then there was mic more popular opinion around town regarded him as the pinnacle of integrity he did not drink can had no known girlfriends or adversaries. Bettas police dove deeper into his private life. A different image of mcmurphy began to emerge orig- an anonymous letter sent to the police alleged that he was lustful with local girls and had seduced a few of them. The letter further related that mick nick had gotten nineteen year old kate ryan pregnant a year before in eighteen ninety seven supposedly naked offer demeri kate but she refused the affair ended in tragedy. Both kate ryan and the baby died during childbirth. According to the letter the ryan instead vowed to make mick pay for what he had done. Inspector erker dismissed the letter as another an amount of lies and speculation he wrote the ryen sister had given birth and married another man and afterward lived a happy life but once again irked had failed to verify his facts he had to ryan families mixed up this was not surprising is there were eight ryan households in the district but there was in fact to kate ryan who lived near the murphys ace. She died in eighteen ninety seven just one year before the murders at nineteen years old. A second letter soon arrived at the police station burying much of the same information on the sender of the letter a friend of kate ryan named rosy brown was discovered but police did not ought follow up on the information on the mystery of mix romantic life remained uninvestigated one reason the investigation did not take take a closer look at the local aspect of the murders including mix alleged secret romances was the discovery of another victim on january seventh eighteen ninety nine the body of fifteen year old alfred hill was found near the town of oxley a couple of hours from gadsden alfred had been missing since december tenth that afternoon he left his parents house outside of oxley to spend the weekend with his aunt and uncle near brisbane he was expected to arrive at his relatives house after a few hours of travel and stay there over the weekend he never made it when he did not return to his parents by tuesday the following week they went to visit their relatives alfred's aunt and uncle told them he had never arrived on friday. They had assumed he had called the trip off for some reason listen. Mr and mrs would frantically headed to the nearest police station and spoke to police sergeant small. Excuse me sir. My son has been missing since friday. He was supposed to visit his aunt and uncle but they say he never arrived. How old is your son and he's fifteen years old. I do not think there is any need to be frightened. Go to brisbane and make inquiries. Boys always run away or or boy is different. Please help us to search. We might not have much time. I'm sorry sir. I know you must be worried but he'll turn up soon. There's no need for research. Alfred did not run away. He left his watch and pocket money under his pillow before he left for god's sake sergeant were begging you. I'm frightened. He's either lost in the bush or murdered look if he does not return in a couple of weeks all file l. a. report right now. There's nothing i can do. Hills refuse to take no for an answer they went above the heads of the local sororities and traveled to the criminal investigation branch headquarters there they spoke to a sergeant shanahan while inspector urquhart was out of town investigating getting the gatt and murders sergeant shanahan was no more help than sergeant small. He was even ruder to mr hill and ignored his desperate pleas for help. When urquhart briefly returned to the headquarters a few days later a clerk double checked with him to see if they should put out a missing persons notice for alfred irkurtsk crate said no not wanting to interfere with the local officers who had declined to pursue the case. The hills were forced to take matters into their own hands. They organize. I search parties with the local community and look tirelessly for their son for a week. They found nothing then on december seventeenth eighteen ninety ninety eight sergeants small noticed arrest warrant that was filed three days earlier. It was for a schoolteacher who was accused of molesting young boys edward wilson listen small looked into it and found that wilson and his son claude were spotted along the road where young albert hill had gone missing. He immediately sent a telegram to the criminal investigation. Branch headquarters suggesting that the schoolteacher could have something to do with albert's disappearance. The headquarters ignored the telegram completely later inspector kurt would deny ever receiving any telegram sergeant small swore war. He sent it on without any reply from police headquarters. The hill family continued organiz search parties for weeks after alfred went missing. None of them found anything until january seventh eighteen ninety nine three weeks after sergeants small telegram was sent alfred hills corpse was was discovered hidden in the woods. The crime scene shared a lot in common with the gatt murders alfred's feet were pointing due west just like those of all three murphy siblings he was shot on the right side of his head. In approximately the same spot mcmurphy had been his pony was shot through the forehead it just like tom the horse which had been pulling the murphys cart that night on the most frustrating similarity between the two cases the lack of motive now that the body was found a couple of people remembered seeing a shady drifter that day walking along the road the description description of the drifter roughly matched that of a mysterious stranger that was reported near the morin pasture before the gotten murders another witness remembered remembered seeing a man and his son who matched the descriptions of edward and claude wilson police felt they finally had a lead but unfortunately wilson had thus far eluded eluded them. He was desperately heading for the coast to catch a boat from australia to london then after several days on the run on january ninth eighteen ninety nine edward wilson was spotted by police officer edward tried to escape but was written down by the policeman in captured along with his eleven year gerald son claude while officers expected edward and claude to be unwilling to talk. They were surprised to find. That claude was incredibly cooperative. During the questioning he confirmed that he and his father had passed both the mysterious drift in a boy on a pony according to claude his father had pulled over after passing the boy he left claude with the horses and followed the boy into the woods clawed heard two gunshots after that then edward returned and told his son he had shot a hawk however edward was not carrying a hawk with them and was also no longer carrying his distinctive think revolver and was a shining nickel plated pistol and claude noticed immediately. It was missing after that claude and edward took a confusing confusing route to a hotel three miles away edward drove so erratically and took such a circuitous path that it took them three hours to travel only those three miles else for the rest of the evening and the next morning edward was on edge he slept in his sons bed down to strong drinks at breakfast and and left town as quickly as possible and he insisted that claude keep the hawk story a secret of course someone who is on the run. The law would likely be tense anyway but that's exactly why taking three hours to travel. Three miles with police on his trail was such an odd decision. Edward was acting like there was someone else after him. He was acting afraid. Unfortunately edward refuse to answer questions when he was is captured except to say that he had lost his gun near oxley so we don't know for sure what happened in the woods between him and young alfred hill on the police believed leave the time that edwards revolver was taken by the drifter considering there was no evidence of sexual assault when alfred's body was found there. There would've been no reason for edward to kill the boy instead. It seems likely the drifters shot alfred's pony with a revolver to prevent him from escaping then he must have shot alfred as claude only heard two shots but the recent he stopped short of shooting. Edward is a mystery it's possible edward convinced kim that he was a fellow fugitive could be trusted to keep quiet or the revolver might not have been fully loaded and only had two shots in it. Edward could also also have promised the drifters something in exchange for his life though it's unknown with that might have been. We'll never know how edward wilson got away. The mysteries only multiplied has investigators dive deeper will explore the next next development in the gatt in case after this carter and i have some exciting news for you starting now you can listen to unsolved murders episodes that her older than six months completely ad free exclusively on stitcher premium. We're always looking for ways to improve the listener experience. We found an amazing raising partner in stitcher to bring you episodes ad free six months after they are released again. This will only affect episodes older than six months. Nothing nothing else will change. We'll still be releasing new unsolved murders episodes. Wherever you listen to podcasts for a free month trial go to stitcher premium dot dot com slash podcast and use promo code podcast that stitcher premium dot com slash podcast and use promo code podcast now back to the story in january of eighteen ninety nine police in getting australia trey lia had connected the murders of the three murphy siblings on december twenty six eighteen ninety eight with the death of a young boy found outside the town of oxley oxley about forty miles away inspector erker of the criminal investigation branch believes strongly that a mysterious drifter seen around oxley was is the same man witnesses had seen near the murder scene and gotten to this end every itinerant traveller who had been seen around getting at the time of the murders was tracked act down and brought in for questioning after an exhaustive interview process burkard felt they had found their man in richard burgess richard was a thirty nine year old ex convict originally from ireland who had spent his life drifting in and out of jail ten days before the murder of alfred alfred hill richard was released from an island prison near brisbane after serving a sentence for assaulting an elderly woman he was seen heading west which mint he could have been heading towards oxley on but more important than his direction was his appearance. A man who matched richard's description was at at the oxley hotel on the day of alfred hills murder. The drifter who has seen traveling on the road where alfred was killed was also reported to look like richard richard was arrested on this basis alone. There was no evidence connecting him to either murder other than the vague witness descriptions to keep him in police custody while more evidence was acquired. He was brought up on a bogus charge of stealing a saddle in the town of toowoomba. There was no reason to i believe that he had been in toowoomba at the time on the richard was a lifelong criminal. The citizens have gotten came to have great sympathy for him. Many of them suspected expected the murderers had been people who had known the murphys personally. Despite the polices adamant belief the crime was committed by an out of towner and local newspapers mont the polices inefficiency and proclaimed that richard was not being given a fair trial for the most part they were right after after the charge for stealing the saddle failed to stick police asked richard to testify to his whereabouts every day. After he left the prison in brisbane he provided detailed descriptions and dates of his travels many of which were confirmed by investigators afterward still irked would not believe it he had richard stand in the lineup for the people who had seen the stranger outside morons pasture the night of the gatt murders were asked to identify the men they had seen two of them. Florence lowe and thomas drew said that richard looked like the drifter that they had seen that night on the strength of these identification -cations inspector erker kept richard in prison throughout january and february of eighteen ninety nine unfortunately his incarceration the lead the murphy family to distance themselves even further from the police investigation jon murphy. You were called here today day to give your account of the events of december twenty sixth. Do you remember what time you got to bed that night. I don't know i see do you recall seann gene william mcneill that night i can't remember. Do you know what time any of your other siblings went to bed. No i didn't hear them getting into bed. These people are giving too much trouble. You will be asked to speak in a moment inspector john. Can you remember anything at all about the night of the twenty sixth. No have you always a blank memory like this. I don't know it was on for a grieving family to be so unhelpful helpful and their apathy frustrated police but in part thanks to their obstinacy richard was released in march of eighteen ninety nine on the condition that that he proved his alibi he was required to travel with a police officer back down the path. He claimed followed from the prison in brisbane back in december. Uh richard agreed to do so but he did not intend to make the trip easy for his unlucky companion sub inspector white breath and what are we doing here burgess. This is where i was on boxing night. You see that cottage. Yes therefore girls living living in their. I tried to force my way in that night but i was chased off so you're admitting to breaking into the premises. I didn't do nothing. I told you i was chased off fine. And what did you do after that. I went up the street here knocking on doors asking for some boiling water from i._t. Are you saying you were too lazy to even boil your own water no sense in doing something if someone else will do it for you huw though the journey was unpleasant it confirmed richard's alibi he was able to show he knew the route well an an found witnesses who confirmed his location at critical times. It seemed the police it's been two months trying to convict an innocent man by this time the patients nations and the memories of the locals were wearing thin erker for his part remained convinced that the unidentified drifter senior oxley was also responsible for the murders but since the drifter was apparently not richard burgess investigators had no idea who else it could be one of the many problems stalling the investigation was the inspectors habit of accepting alibis without independent confirmation for example. Some local suspicion was aimed at the o'brien brothers. Joe and con joe is known to have an infatuation russian with alan murphy and also been arrested for petty crimes in the past kahn often cooperated with his brother and his unsavory schemes. When conn o'brien was interviewed he first told authorities that on the evening of the twenty sixth he had been searching for a loss horse he claimed he searched urged for the horse without results until around ten pm and then he went to bed to corroborate this story he pointed investigators to his roommate fred minton tune but fred had left town soon after the murders and could not be located for questioning later after further interrogation khan told another officer officer a different story in this version. He said he successfully caught his missing horse by ten p._m. Contradicting his earlier claim that he had returned home empty-handed police noted that he had failed to account for his movements during the night of the murders but did not bother to do anything about it. His brother brother joe told a story that was similarly full of holes. Joe admitted he was drunk. During boxing day at the horse races but he claimed he had completely completely sobered up by the evening and had a relatively quiet night joe told police he went back to the callahan family farm where he lived and worked around nine nine thirty pm then he went to bed at ten thirty. This story was vouched for by two of his friends. The donahue sisters they stated they were with joe <hes> until he went to bed at ten thirty. There corroboration came as a surprise to police as joe originally made no mention that they were with him on this version. Version of events was disputed by a man named robinson who is also staying at the callanan's house. He claimed that on the night of the murders he returned turn to the house just passed nine p._m. And did not see joe according to him joe had already left at least fifteen minutes earlier earlier. If robinson was telling the truth then joe o'brien could have conceivably made it back to town and seeing the murphys coming into get in for the dance <music> around nine ten pm in this case he would have seen them abruptly turn around upon finding out. The dance was cancelled alone on his horse. He could've taken aback road and easily beaten the old murphy cart back to morons pasture. He might have even had the assistance of his brother who had lied on at least east one occasion about looking for his horse that night on this possibility was never explored by police who clear joe early on in the investigation on despite the fact that inspector irked had only just arrived in town in january eighteen ninety nine. He declared joe o'brien story checked out without out looking into it. Further joe is never reexamined even after he was suddenly fired from the callanan's farm a day after speaking to the police it was largely or kurtz unshakeable confidence in his first impressions of people that stalled the investigation even after evidence emerged that contradicted him. He held fast to his gut feelings for example. There was a traveling laborer named thomas day. Thomas had been in oxley oxley on december tenth eighteen ninety eight exactly when albert hill was believed to have been killed from oxley. He made his way to get where he found the temporary work as a butcher. Thomas claimed on the night of the murders that he had gone to bed early. He was seen having supper at seven pm afterward afterward. He stated he went to the room where he slapped and read for awhile before bedtime. This story could not be verified because all other members of the household were at a fireworks fireworks show held by the butcher between eight and nine pm. Thomas alone did not attend the show. The sergeant who interviewed thomas said that he was always reading from a book called rian z. obscure work about a medieval italian politician strange and dense book for traveling worker to be reading reading but instead of making irc suspicious thomas's vague stories about his background and habit of reading esoterica impressed the inspector. Thomas thomas came off as thoughtful at odds with what irks considered to be the personality of a rapist and murderer. Nevertheless thomas has room was searched news brought to the station for interrogation. Nothing of consequence could be found but a day before he was brought in the butcher who employed loyd in noticed small bloodstains on one of thomas's shirts. Thomas claimed it was from carrying meat for the butcher on a wet day but the butcher said that the spots were not consistent with what he would expect to rub off of beef in addition. Carrying meat was not one of thomas duties so it's unclear when this might have occurred appeared before thomas was interviewed. The butcher advised him not to wash his shirt as the police would wanna look at the stains. Thomas washed his clothes closed the next day anyway. Obliterating any potential evidence thomas was considered the number one suspect by at least two investigators sergeant sergeant king and constable christie christie went so far as to write a report implicating thomas in the murder but never filed it. He was later asked asked why he never turned in the report. Hey kristy stop there. Yes sir christie. I don't speak any more nonsense about thomas day. It's not not nonsense if he's in on it. He's a quiet boy. You could not have committed the crime. He looks like a man to me. Don't lie christy and don't go criticizing the work of better men than yourself itself. Thanks to irkurtsk intimidation christie never sent in his report in the matter was dropped. Thomas left town on january tenth. After getting an argument with his boss erker asked him to travel to the police station in toowoomba where richard burgess was being held to the of thomas could identify him without any real incentive to do so thomas did as he was asked he went to the station and said he could not recognize nuys richard burgess and then left town to join the army. He quickly changed his mind and deserted. Police tried to find him after that but he had disappeared appeared. Thomas was just one of several leads ignored by investigators by april of eighteen ninety nine. They had failed to come up with a a single viable suspect and the investigation was ended without results the same year in response to public outcry a royal royal commission was launched. It sought to determine why the police had failed during the course of the inquiry the numerous oversights of inspector urquhart revealed revealed the commission found that many of his decisions were incomprehensible. He had failed to perform his duties as an inspector. The ultimate conclusions of the royal commission suspected that thomas day whose real name was now known to be theo farmer was responsible for the murders i but the finding was by no means conclusive thomas aka theo was not found until the next year in nineteen hundred he was in a sydney hospital under yet another assumed name thomas furner. He was dead by suicide. Thomas day definitely seems to be a likely suspect. He may have been the key to solving the case. If only investigators followed through on their duties to this day thomas is considered the most likely culprit by many but there were several other loose threads. It still seems unlikely that the murders could have been committed by a single individual and most engand believed that the perpetrators were local but thomas was from out of town. It's possible thomas allied with the oh bryan brothers or some other locals who had private disagreements with the murphy's. The murphy family seemed value. It's respectability above all else so if these private disagreements involved unsavory circumstances it would explain why they did not actively assist the police investigation uh ultimately the only thing that is clear is that whoever murdered the murphy siblings and possibly albert hill was allowed to get away with it by incompetent police force on the police failed to do their duty in following up with thomas day. Hey k. theo farmer with all. The evidence considered sittard. I think he is the most likely killer he used an alias and clearly had something to hide and the bloodstains on his clothing are too much to ignore. I don't think i agree if he was guilty. Why would he go through the trouble of travelling to mba and saying he could not identify richard richard burgess. He also didn't have a clear motive. I think it was the work of locals probably the o'briens they were known criminals in joe had expressed an attraction to ellen. They also definitely lied to the police about their whereabouts on boxing night. Whatever the truth may be the gotten murders. Remain one of the most fascinating unsolved murders in australian history. The case revealed the slimy underbelly that lay beneath in unassuming in rural town and just how ruinous a headstrong leader can be to a police investigation to young women and one young man murdered in cold blood and sexually assaulted in the end. Neither the local police nor the state criminal investigation branch were able to bring the perpetrators to justice the gap murders are an awful example of the dangers that lie in leading ones assumptions overrule. Will there logic <music>. Thanks again for tuning in to unsolved murders. We'll be back next tuesday with new episode. 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Tough as Nails | Season 1, Episode 10 FINALE Recap | Phil Keoghan

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Tough as Nails | Season 1, Episode 10 FINALE Recap | Phil Keoghan

"Hey, what's going on rob here getting ready for our tough as nails episode four recap, we're going to have this is sort of a two part episode, Mike Jess, and myself are going to be a recapping par one of the episode, and then about fifteen minutes in Phil. COGAN IS GONNA join us to. Tell us his thoughts on episode number four of tough as nails. Let me tell you about today's sponsor. Those are friends bet online. There's no shortage of action going on with our exclusive partners. Online Dot AG sports are slowly making their way back with the UFC boxing NASCAR and soccer leading the way and bet online has all the best odds in lines for the upcoming Games and matches. After this podcast is important make sure to stay tuned as sports, analysts, and host of good sports. Dave Damasec is going to discuss the return of sports with. Dave Mason if you need more online has a simulated NFL NBA and you have see happening everyday live if you to check out looking for something other than sports. 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We'll see if you can. pull up a hay bale or. Put Up. Some barbed wire around your podcast area later on I got allergies. Hay. Bales are not good for me. Yeah. I would not do great at this. All right and a man who always has his irrigation hooked up correctly Mr Mike Blue. Okay all right. Well, listeners you're in for a treat in this special episode because later on in this episode, we're GonNa checking in with Phil Cogan who looks like Jess. who were the thunk it? Probably hearing from Phil Weekly after his last visit. Someone needs to get a time machine for many reasons. But after you use the time machine for all the things that we need the time machine for it got juice left in the time machine go back to twenty twelve. I almost didn't apply to be on our AGP and tell my twenty twelve self that someday doing a weekly podcast with Phil freaking Kogen. Yeah. I guess. Okay. In fairness you guys are talking to fill later on and I have to be on the road traveling with my family. Yeah. But I'll I'll get talked with a lot in the future so. We're recording this episode in two parts we wanted to. catch up with Jess and talk about the episode right after it airs and then on Thursday morning we'll check in with Phil but normally will record the whole Shebang on Thursday morning and here from Phil to start the show on Thursdays of course, you can subscribe to our brand new tough as nails podcast feed go to rob his website at com slash tough as nails, and we would also appreciate if you could hammer in those five stars to our ratings and help a new podcast get discovered plant the. Post. In the items were get off the fence post those reviews rate harder not smarter. That's right. That's right. Okay. So we appreciate that. ROB has website dot com slash tough as nails and. We will put together a list of all of our questions for fill that we need to ask. But I guess our top story at this hour Mike Roofer Lee, what happened I believe winner edit I mean, he's still Mike considering he might get ten thousand dollars at the end of this. The idea of a winner might be out the barn door at this point. But yeah, I mean, this was really we've only had three overtime so far on two of them having been have involved young, but this has to be by far the toughest one pundit. Of them let soon, as Lee Michelle paired up I was like Oh my God otp these are. I love it, and then of course, the twenty faith touring twenty provides us is, of course they lose and of course, they had to face off against each other just could have lived with anybody else losing this challenge we have to lose Lee or Michelle. Well. This is maybe I'm GonNa call this the biggest fake out of twenty twenty because I was one hundred percent convinced like they pair Lee and Michelle in like Oh good I gotta root for this team 'cause it's fills all time favorite reality contestant and who is rapidly becoming my all time favorite reality intestine and Michelle like we've got a cavities guys win the whole thing and show everybody at the old people could do it and the old people can't do it and I'm looking at this and I'm seeing okay. Phil can't go five minutes without bringing up Roofer league like he really loves this guy and has said he's GonNa make the entire series. And then there's Michelle who if she was on any other reality show, we'd be saying Oh. Yes she's toast. She's got. She's got the real like Jillian Larson upside there and I I'm thinking Oh God Michelle is toast. There's no way she could beat Roofer Lee who's got hands the size of bananas in the Physical Challenge and I'm sitting there thinking Oh yeah it's toast. It's curtains for Michelle. She's done she's done and then she beats him and I buy a second milliseconds even that could be editing I don't know I'm not. I don't know just I. Saw Phil Do this so that I don't know I took his body language much like Danny. I'm an expert on language the podcast listeners to hear more about this than you did. My. Wife likes to call it. 'cause I, do it sometimes in bed like Whoa at the beach. I've been lying for thirty years listen. But it's Only, show bloom. He had both his hands on his head and just staring in disbelief at such a close content. You said, you'd do this in bed lot. Yes. So imagine for the listeners a home Malcolm has just been voted out of survivor that's the reaction that right and everyone else the particularly the female cats are the ones pointing and laughing because they're so excited that Michelle ended up taking one home which I was excited about as well like it really sucked to lose Lee but God, I would hate to lose three women in a row here to start off because. As much as this show really tried to build up like, Hey, anybody can be toughest nails no matter where you come from, it would come down almost on the show itself. If the three overtime challenges were based more towards a male skillset, which is favouring more upper body strength, etc. But Michelle killed it. Inna. Corrigan Nolan's I was really happily surprised with how considering that like I would say I mean I guess part of it was survivor as right like untying the knot but the rest of it was just like hauling wait. Yeah just you wouldn't think that this would be a challenge on paper that Michelle would be able to beat Leah not only was it involving physical strength. You also needed to climb onto the Hay bales and pull the rope and Roofer Lee does have significant height advantage over Michelle probably in the neighborhood of if not two feet a foot and a half. Oh for sure let's say at least one hundred percent I think to Michelle's mainly personal S. Remake of the Big Brother Twenty failed Sitcom pilot, the tall and the short of it. Mike now, they're going to say twins so that that person is low if if feel. Past. Shelling, Leon it. Yeah I thought it was interesting that they have taken pains when the task is something that physical. They are adjusting for height to make it even and there's a lot of you see that happen on survivor challenge but definitely, not every survivor challenge and they certainly never do it on the amazing race So I thought it was it was a good way to evaluate strength per person. We've saw it on the coal challenges. Well, you had to shovel the percentage of your body weight and coal, and I think that helps but also the way that you swung those big Hay bales around that is not unlike swinging around a fifty pound suitcase and Michelle probably. is accustomed to swinging around things that way almost half her body weight and throwing them up on top of things. So I'm going to say this really did play her skill sets maybe a little bit more than roof relief because I don't know if you were watching this people were yelling at him to lift with his legs and he was not doing that it was hurting my back to watch him move. Out. Last sixty one years on this planet and not like lifting like that like how he's still. Upright. Fair he's spending every day like stooped over or however many days maybe his back is just built a F- but the other interesting thing was stacking the Hay bales because I feel like we've got the same strategy from both Michelle brought up like she cut a Jenga did a bit right then you Can't just make one tall stack because that's just going to tip over and you can imagine like the Tetris of it. All of stacking luggage to fit into some sort of aircraft is probably a bit of it. So maybe this being like a back door five hole in away. In that like there's no such the back door five whole just called being good at your thing. Mike do you suspect that Michelle has ever stacked up all of the suitcases and made a tower in stood on top of them. I don't know how board you get in an airport. I don't Cincinnati Airport in particular. I'm not sure how crazy it is a hobby Mike people might do it in like Laguardia but not for fun just like at a malice. Expecting Laguardia. Airport Shade. Lots of shade at Laguardia but. Yeah I. I like justice thought. So the more I think about it, the more I guess that's sort of like the story, Michelle to right they they called it a little engine that could that of you you look at her initially think, oh, she can't do this, but she has like the gumption of wherewithal to be able to overpower anybody and that's just like this challenge you look at initially and you're like Oh Michelle's toast and she's able to use her skillset completely overcome things unfortunately at the expensively who again like from our perspective was still in it as much as we talked about him possibly meeting to see like three chiropractors afternoon he did get milliseconds away seemingly from reading that balance surviving. Just. Just I can't believe that roof release out of the competition for the top prize. Well I. Think this episode alone validates fills choice to structure the game such that you get to see everybody. Yeah. The whole thing. Like what if this was all the roof relieve? We were going to get I think this would not have phil coming on at eleven every week to talk to us. And my I have to say that that I actually really liked this format where we can stay with these characters and not like in like an edge of extinction sort of way where it's like okay well. I, like you'll, but he's voted out but at least get to watch them on the edge of extinction, but it's really not the same thing. I don't know I mean they'd seems like the players that are currently limited to influence the game in some way. Ever speaking Lynette and Melissa obviously both big people in the team challenge for completely different reasons that Melissa is essentially the reason why dirty hands has. Two thousand dollars more in their hands and Lynette was one of the big. You know vocal reasons why savage crew just ends up self-destructing this episode Yeah that. When I see them on the show I'm not like thinking about them like. All right. Let's get back to the people that are in the competition. They are still like an integral part of the show. And I've like that. There's a strategic. Angle to it as well with your whole team and you have people saying we need to win this challenge because this is the only chance they have to earn money and it kind of bolsters the team spirit or it should in theory and even though it kind of didn't this instance. Yeah and I think it was Murph that brought this up in the episode like it's interesting that it's not coming from the players who are saying, Hey, this is my only chance that I. On. The show that there are players that say, Hey, we got a win this challenge because you know. Lit lineker been voted out and so has. Melissa I think that that also speaks from Murph's personal experience though, right like if you're talking about Phil, said everyone sort of comes from a team background but Murph might come from the largest team background says, he comes from a literal army where it's you have to have a unified front and like you're only as strong as the people you run into the bunker with it's the few in the proud. Yeah exactly. It's like so I can imagine that he's like well, you know what I I need to support. You know my brothers and arms our sisters in arms as it were whereas other that are used to working more independently someone like tariff, for instance, I think. Maybe, it's more a bit more of an independent person just based on her background may not have like specifically vocal approach to the competition. It's not bad. It's just different. Let's talk about the team challenge because it seemed like that. We really had my my dirty handstands were really all all going crazy tonight because it was a good night for dirty hands were savage crew was really suffering for. That lack of leadership Just what would you think about the search for a leader over on savage crew? Like. It's really interesting to see people's rationale for not wanting to lead and I have a whole like I can give you a whole Ted talk about Murph later on because I have a lot of opinions about Murph but I thought it was very interesting I have so many opinions it's it's going to be it's going to be good but I think we gotta save it for the individual because. It's yeah. But I thought it was really interesting that a lot of people didn't want to lead because they wanted to do, and that is something that I feel very acutely as someone who has like over the years kind of moved more into project management and has been compelled to take things that I'm eventually going to have to have credit for and make other people do them. It's a very hard thing to do and it's something. You'd much rather have your hands in it yourself and be responsible for it and I think that. Speaks to the kind of work ethic that they're celebrating here. It's like. There's a lot more pride in being the one that does the work rather than being the foreman and Murphy had a very good point that if he is trying to operate the machinery, he can't look up and see what other people are doing. And then you have Sarah who's kind of the same thing like she didn't feel like. She knew how to operate the things and she wanted to operate the things. She didn't want to be the one directing other people. Where contrast that with someone like Michelle? whose entire strength in the entire competition is directing other people? I think that you know dirty hands really benefited in many ways from having someone who has direct experience on this being on the team because I would imagine if that wasn't the case they would run into similar problems, right? Think savage crew also got a bit unlucky that they were dealing with six people who had no experience as to how to do this, and so you know I think a lot of fingers pointed at tear because we're like you know how to work with the wire. And so it's just sort of became okay. You should be the one that should be stepping up and then when she was stepping up, then people were sort of blaming her communication style but I would imagine if for some reason, Melissa couldn't have participated in this challenge. I do wonder if something similar would have happened where you do not have an experience beacon to look towards on your team someone that you trust holy, we'll be able to manage you yeah is interesting and I want to I. Want to throw this out here because I don't think this is something I'm going to be able to do on tough as nails. Nearly, as often as I do on amazing race but you know we're watching episode amazing grace that I can be like Oh. Yeah. been there. I. Know where that stuff is. This is something I've done. Is? where? Challenged wire fence I have put up fence. Okay. Out when I was a kid, my father had a fencing business and I've operated a post hole digger and I've I've worked with barbed wire. So I, I very excited to see a couple of things in this episode that are things I have done and what you're auger experience like I was not allowed to work with the power tools but I've seen other people do it enough that I think if the three of us had to put a fence, you would want me on the Auger. Okay all right. So Some day when the three of us are competing for the least tough person in the nation, I think Robin I would make great posts just wrapped wire around. My best function yeah. Just put an orange mark on your calf and bury. The dirt. Yes. One person on the panel who probably knew what an Auger was before tonight. You are uniquely qualified to lead this panel. I'm like three for three. This season I want an alternator was. Bigger. Underdog was a thing that like hunted vampires legitimately, and before this episode now you're thinking of thinking of Harry. Potter. Yes. So. Just in learning to put up a fence like this, do you have any? Tips that you would be able to help with our team leader like what would you be telling us? It'd be telling you all to put on your frigging gloves. Yeah. Like Tara I think is a special case because she just handles mental all the time but don't touch barbed wire without putting on gloves that just seems intuitive. I'm Phil will have some insight onto this. Just by you know, they'll hinted and how barbed wire really changed farming. That was there just prior to barbed wire was there wires didn't have points on it and the animals would run into it and be able to take it down like is the barbed wire just to the animals, go near it, and then they get hurt and then they don't go defense. Well, it's not just keeping the animals in its keeping other stuff out So that's what it is. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That's kind of the big thing and especially like most of the predators that would get your cattle are pretty intelligent. Yes and could figure out ways around normal fence but that and it also it saves labor like a barbed wire fences much simpler thing to put up then like a whole wall of post. Yes. I should know that that was I recently watched babe. Ruth do dirty hands that'll do. Yeah I? AM. A almost an adult at the time that movie came out. So event I recently watched and it was intense I gotta say Oh look hey, hey, kids WanNa Watch this happy movie babe. Why don't remember it being rather kit friendlier thought it was I think it's pretty mature move gory. Yeah. But it's a talking pig like how is that? Not like that trap when you go to watch watership down thinking it's a cartoon, right? It's like a Ralph Bakshi's film or like. TURNS OUT TO BE ANYTHING ANYTHING. Yes. I'm just going to say spoiler alert if you if you're a parent I think it's on like Hbo Max or one of these lot of animals are going to die on Bait. Okay noted isn't that out there. Have you ventured into babe pig in the? Show now but they. Causes. Rats die in that one. Okay, right. So. Jess worked with the Bard why did you see any teams that we're doing anything that you specifically thought was a bad handling of this task. I, thought there was a lot of good strategy here like I thought the laying out the posts before you do anything else is a pretty key thing. Also I liked Kelly. Rolling barbed wire down the hill and noting that the barbed wire reminds her of both fishing nets and fishing line. I thought that was great. It's really fun to see where people discover their kind of hidden strengths that tie into what they do. It's like a secret. It's like a secret five hole every time that happens yeah. The back door. and of course, in teaming with that young once again runs into something that he has no experience in what we get to you. Later, like I hooked up water by this does not look like a host connection to me Maybe, at some point, there will be something that is literally on fire that young people can. Really WanNA. See this. I WanNa see the thing that like young story so far has just been that he's kind of a load every time and I, want to see the thing that he shines at and I know just because of the narrative structure of the show and like the way that fills speaks about it I have to imagine that's coming. There's going to be something where the team is not going to be able to function without him or where he's just GonNa blow away the competition. and. I can't wait to see what that thing is because they are really the up to something with him yeah. I thought it was odd that after the challenge was won by dirty hands, then they brought in like all right. Let's bring a bull in. And here's. Now, well, let's let's test your your pen. Here's a bowl. Yeah I wasn't sure if we needed that extra maybe ranch manager white just had like an unruly bowl. He wants to get off his hands and put up in this 'cause I would not want to trust as much as I trust you know the working hands of this cast. I don't know if I trust them so much with like a pen, they've never put out before to hold in a semi animals. Though, maybe there animal wrangler. Case it faulty. He's like she knows what she's doing. Melissa's put up a few fences in her life. VENTER's and. Then that ball has a new home just. Yet I'm sure he'll be very comfortable there Is there anything else that we want to say about the Teen Challenge? I mean, we could talk a little bit more about the I. Don't know if there's like A. Tear our team Murph or whoever but I mean this is the first legitimate interpersonal conflict we had and this season it will not be the last in this episode but I think it's pretty significant and I do wonder if this is going to keep becoming a thing because it just feels like I don't know if felt like the schism that I saw was that it can if it's terror versus Murph a lot of the. Team is taking Murph side. Yeah. I wonder if that's going to bear out in the future, we're like tear it just doesn't feel like she's part of the team. It's really interesting to me. I. Can't actually tell who's in the right here. I can kind of see they did a good job of portraying both sides here because I think on one hand neither one of them wanted to lead and it looked to me like Tara. Foisted it on Murph when it came down to it, but I have to imagine the team had to agree on that. You see Murph kind of blanche when she says he's in charge and then you see Murph saying take Wli I decided at a certain point in this challenge I was going to give over leadership Tara and it doesn't seem like Tara knows that or maybe he said it to her and she didn't want to hear it and she didn't want to do it. So she didn't respond to it but I can't tell which of those things is true and I think that would inform my feelings about this situation I'm going off the third party here linnet seen not happy with Tara so I feel like that. At least based on what we saw, we were supposed to feel like that. Murph was in the you right or Murph should have taken the leadership role. What do you think? Yeah Murph was I think in the less wrong. It's probably the more proper is that I think Tara committed the worst offense in that like you said like even though she wasn't she didn't want leadership at the outset it did seem like when it got to the post wrapping that like she was the most vocal and it's always thing is the most vocal personal leader. We're not entirely sure they look to her for experience because she was able to she's tied wire before leaving that was sloppy, right so I don't know if she even knew she was going to handle that part because it turns the organization. Wise. It was all over the place of okay. I'm going to run back and do this. But maybe if we start stringing up the post as we're putting them up, that'll help us catch up I love to hear from Phil as we talked to him in a little bit about exactly how close it ended up being because it was at least really portrayed in Jeff. probst parliament is like what are the biggest blowouts and toughest nails history? Despite the fact that dirty hands did like get a crooked post and have to recalibrate that your notice how every challenges either neck and neck or huge blowout, and there's no middle ground there's A. Middle. Ground Yeah Okay. Let's then talk about. The advantage which came into play from last week's episode where Murph had found the alternator the fastest and he was a entrusted with creating the payers and Danny was worried he's the second week in a row. We heard Danny say well, boy Murphy has the advantage but. You know what? I'm really worried about is that? Is He gonNA use that advantage against me? Just my question for drywall Danny. Is Who hurt you? Well I want to. Be here is is the time for me to speak about Murph a little bit because I also want to speak about Danny here because I think. This is something you only ever see on reality shows in their infancy. Where you get a group of people that have been brought on to do a particular thing and then one or two of them emerge as people who are playing the the quote unquote game and nobody else is playing a game but then there's like this these. One or two people doing this like fourth dimensional chess in their heads every time and you have to people this season who are doing that in Murph and Danny and the two of them are like trying to game it and they're the only ones that are talking about like how do I personally get to the end and how do I strategize this and I think they kind of found each other this they found each other kindred spirits of like we are we have a particular goal in mind and this is what this is what we want to do, and we're the ones that get it. So see why he would want the two of them working together. You see them as sort of like the prophet ex and Magneto of the nails were all their there playing chess with the rest of the pieces I. Guess The question is who's like, Danny can sort of be like a plaster version of Magneto and that he can move that around with his mind instead metal. Tara would be more so than magneto right Maybe she's made does enemy magneto a rod buster? Original name. Barbed wire challenge exactly before my news like maybe I should change by day but p rod buster anymore on taken seriously. But you see it like. Survivor had Richard Hatch and you. Eat It amazing race had. Boston Rob. You get these people in there we are currently re watching season one of the mole, and there is a guy on there named Jim. Who is the only one who's got that next level thinking and it's really entertaining to me like sometimes you get people that have been specifically cast to do that and everybody does it. But this show Phil has specifically not cast those people and he got two of them anyway Yeah I I mean I guess rob, should we call Danny Murphy? The chill town of Tough Nail Aren't. They completely lined in the same way or at least for the next fifteen or so years will they be on the same? Until they have a horrible blow. Yeah. Well, that's the thing is that I think that this is also really interesting challenge because I'm pretty sure they were all inter team, right? Not Intra team and I guess we can talk to fill it up that about whether Murph had to pair people up from different teams. So it's not like they have the opportunity to really work together but I would say now that three people are gone and I think we're starting to tear you know if we could pick winners now, who would be the biggest individual winner you'd have to imagine these are probably two top tier picks right now In terms of airtime in terms of just like skilled quality. So just based on your theory of there being sort of like. The to like tempo setters, there was this the right move for Murph to. Team up with Danny on this task rather than send Danny pair Danny. Newsstands worst fears of put Danny. With potentially the least likely competitors to help him complete this task. I think was the smartest move because I. Think you put Danny With anybody else like if you put Danny was somebody you think is going to sandbag it goes to the bottom. He beats that person the worst persons out then you don't have any more dead weight and Danny is still there and now he's mad at So I think this is more of a game recognize game situation and you see a lot of these. And again, I'M GONNA drag in force another metaphor here. But this is something that people do a lot of on ink master this these types of challenges where you have to pick somebody else to team up with and completed challenge together, and the possibility is that you're going to have to face off against that person. If you're in the bottom, you see a lot of this were they pick the person that is the best. And some people do try to sandbag the people that are not the best. But you kind of want for yourself. You WanNA choose somebody that's GONNA. Help you win that I challenge. You don't have to go to the bottom and I think murphy kind of thinking well, Danny is likely to go far whether or not I put him with someone else and so I'll put him because we know that we're going to work very hard. We're GONNA work well together or the type of person we can worry about going up against each other later. To be the man, you gotTa beat that. He wants to serve himself I like right because he got also ended up picking somebody and completely completely blow up in his face whereas he picks who he thinks is again, we we've never heard this is a real Laura Meerut Chamdo situation right? We're like we hear Danny like biggest competition Murphy has not said a lick about Danny. Until this episode did is just like, yeah, he's fun. I enjoyed any like we have no idea what Murph thinks about Danny in terms of a threat and Murph may not even see this competition in terms of that threat level but I can imagine if he's Just like I want to get through to the next round. Let me pick who I is the strongest competitor. It would make sense to go with Danny and I think between that and just the really short fun ironic moment of Kelley's saying, please just pick anybody but young have her get paired up with young. There are a couple of fun little editing moments in this particular challenge Mike, do you think that Murph tried to sandbag any two people in particular by pairing them together or do you feel like do you take him at his word that he tried to make team even as possible? I mean, if I'm going to be candidate I, don't think Murph cared once he once he picked Danny Manning he's like we're pretty much set. Let me just start putting random people together I could imagine that like he wants to make a statement by putting Michelle together I think they worked well together they're able to see a commonality and their age not sure you know we see these these people hang out sometimes between challenges but we know what they're dynamic is like I'm not sure if he had a reason behind Alliot Young Terry miles inland, Dan Lewis but like I did not see any particular week lake of those three pairs. Attribute to Mertz Gaming Jess an amazing race leg with these five pairs of WHO's first place in WHO's eliminated. I'm I think we probably see it play how much the same way we saw it here for being honest typically emiss- and Michelle would be eliminated. Yeah. Well, you know and you know this is something that Phil has hinted about as we've been talking to him that. Things are different on this show and we're so conditioned to think like from the rest of our reality show experience we're so conditioned to think that they're doomed I think this is like the non elimination. Lake Shell I duNNo. I would also say I think there's a chance Linda Ann Lewis would be the young dating couple that's like testing their relationship on the reason they just cannot get along for a lick leg and they. Pick up the hose bait come on Babe. What are you doing? It broke my finger babe. Sarah, Tamar. My balls, the cutting the pipe now. Dear hate when that happens yeah. Okay. So we have our five pairs here and it's going to be a Murph and Danny as we mentioned then we also are going to have Leeann Michelle we have Kelly Young Linda. Lewis and then a miles is paired with. Sarah. Tear. Some interesting pairs some interesting strategies just look like that. Kelly in young we're going to be in trouble when they were deciding to carry the pipes around rather than roll them. Yeah. This is again, this is not something I have done directly, but it is something that I have witnessed and something like we sure the two of you have not seen these irrigation things in recent memory I saw one like today's recall. Not, Tabia. Well, they had rivers in Mesopotamia have to bring the water to your fields here. But I would imagine at least my thought is if there's a wheel on it, you should probably smell drought isn't it? Yeah I think there's a lot of people that were able like they had the mechanical mind even if they hadn't directly worked with one of these things to look at it and figure out how it works and figure out the quickest way to do it and things like dropping the. Dropping the posts as you're running out to the end of the field was something that a lot of people did in making the connections as you're going rather than putting all the pipes in one row and then doing the connections and not that was something and also make sure you've got it exactly right on your first try because it looked like it was a huge setback if. You had a burst pipe or if you had a leak, you had to figure out where it was and go back and Redo whole chunks of it. So it really seemed like it is an is this again, this is a classic amazing race thing if you have to make sure you get it all done correctly on the first try so that you don't lose any time Yeah, so obviously, the I think the bottom three finishing payers had by far the most drama behind Lee Michelle wasn't dramas much like they got stuck at a connection to the point where they were like grunting and exertion that basically put their behind because they were doing pretty well. Took about, Linda Lewis and Kelly, just like even when they win, she still puts down young like, yeah. I basically dragged him across the finish line captain. I'm the captain now look at me. Captain Phillips. Moment. I mean, it really was a young like short take hostage. I'm fine. I'll do whatever it takes a it takes a good man admit when someone else is leading you and you need to just let yourself be led and I think we have to give young some credit for that. Starting what he's just like listen you're going to help me not being over time for one. Sure. I'll listen. I've tried everything else that hasn't worked. So that's the only reason he got there at least got their. Ot. Lead follow or get out of the way as they say in tough as nails circles I'm sure but but I'm a I'm a little surprised that I don't know I feel like the edit was giving us Linda Lewis would end up in the bottom because they definitely seemed like at least Linda was just dragging Louis the point where I think like what in the cardinal sins of toughest nails she said and confessional I don't think Lewis is that tough feels like a swear on this show. Right. Just this is not the first time. We've heard this type of thing about Louis this season. Yeah. I. Think. People originally see him when he's coming in and he looks like because he's so good looking and so clean every time you see him a think people made that assumption early on, and then some of those assumptions turned out to be a little bit in reality but I think he didn't get a fair shake coming in and he just hasn't. It hasn't gotten any fair for him. But? Yeah. I think it's really it. I t the first two episodes are I guess technically it's three episodes that we've seen everybody was so like teamwork and touching feeling and really wanting to get along, and now they have dropped the facade and they can't continue wanting to get along quite so hard anymore and I think now it's starting to cook with gas a little bit more and it's very It's very interesting to me like we were saying, we don't know what the dynamics are yet, and we're starting to see the dynamics form and I think this is going to start to form the narrative arc of the season. So I like seeing this like Lyndon Louis we kind of got a sense for who was prior to this episode. We got a sense for who Lewis was, but we didn't know. What the two of them together would be like and what kind of brands that has everybody else safe to say also, Lewis's finger probably was not broken. It did not seem like he was still moving it around in doing the work. He was just complaining a lot. Okay. Mic Yeh anything you WANNA add from the irrigation challenge. Could you could you could sum up what ended up happening with Michelle Lee in terms of what they ended up having trouble. I mean really was just like the ultimate connection they just got really stuck at. It was just it was a particularly bad latch or if they just had trouble lining up the pipe, but that seemed to from editing perspective, really put them behind a pushing I. WanNa pose before we move on here is do you think this is the last pair challenge? We will see on the season or do you think given the drama from this they? Would want to try this out again at eight or six or four or what have you. Well, I think that we are definitely going to see more paired challenges. It may not necessarily be in pairs of two I. Mean I could see next week potentially having three teams of three when we're down to nine survivor does that a lot with like the reward challenges and finding different ways to break people up? So I think we'll definitely see. The groups broken up in different ways just. Yeah, I think any time the number of people left the game is not a prime number. We are going to be seeing some kind of subdivisions what was neat about this was that they were able to take the bottom two and then put them into. Overtime. Right and it could have been a case where this sometimes happens. If like Oh you know. What if one person outperforms the other and they happen to end up in the bottom two for team? They were picked for its on their fault but again, maybe it's just arrived from the way Murph pick teams did not feel like you know one of Lear Michelle really screwed the Pooch. It was that they both happen to not deliver on that one latch, and so it made sense as to why they both ended up being in the bottom their glee fans are going to be very excited with all the Liam Michelle mentioned tonight. Maybe. Not recently in the show. Yeah I I do WANNA. I. Do think that it might not necessarily be teams like sub teams like groups of people working together. So much as I think we're GONNA see a lot more. Competitions where people are group's together and then made to compete in heats together because we did see that a little bit in the in the first and second episodes I think that will enable you to see what people are doing a little bit better than. The necessarily like having everybody, go head to head at the same time. Okay. Just anything else that you want to add here about tough as nails outing number four. I have we gotTa talk about the Hay Bales a little bit more I think but I also I want to. I want have a moment to shame Danny and Murph um lease over a comment that they made that I've not. Like knows what I've where I'm going with this. Yeah. They're both married so they are used to being told what to do no wonder they get along. So well, sexism is such a great uniter guys. Guys I think you're wise might be tougher than you think we got the wrong. or or use still I mean I mean Chelsea's correct. Yeah. It's true. I think. I would love to podcast with both of your spouses and I have podcast with them individually, and they are definitely tougher than either one of you individually but now I can. COSIGN that but you guys are not necessarily the Danny and Murph of origin he so yeah. Okay right. We do a little better. Danny and Murph okay yeah maybe. Yeah. I'm not going to cancel them outright yet because I think we need this kind of emergent strategy in the toughest neal's ecosystem and they're the only ones bring it but. Yeah I don't I don't like the women are bossy and Talki- Yeah I mean. It is tiring price fell like there's work to do in that regard you know Yeah and there's evidence that fills phrase by the way like go to work or there's work do it. He's trying to make that a thing in the show. Yeah. It's kind of Spin Grin of toughest nails so far in that it's not really gelling yet. Give it time? Yeah. This season one is still we're still working out the vernacular and you know if you go back and watch season one of mazing race most of feels stick is not there either so it it takes time it's it's percolating. Yeah but I think. Overall. I think were doing great here and there's so much interesting stuff going on both. In the tasks themselves and in the people now finally, because when it's I, think up until this point, it was all tasks all the time and all we could talk about was this person was good at this task, and now we're starting to get to know the people and I think this this episode to me was a big leap forward. Okay I just what about the Hay Bails I mean we've. We've talked a lot about the hails but. I did think that there were. There were some strategy elements to moving those things. Picking it up by the string. That was hurting my hands to watch it and. Rows strategy to move. Hey, just I mean, that is how you have to lift them but you do have to throw your legs into it and I think Michelle had the right idea to not lifted up and carry it the whole way but to kind of flip it and don't rent. Well, do you think Phil just being Amazing Race Guy Naturally had to put a task tales in here I feel like Michelle. Had went particularly like that would have been immensely heartbreaking given the the use of Hay Bales on previous amazing race seasons. This could be why they don't have the they left that that idea that everybody has to finish every task. Maybe that's why they don't. They didn't continue that past the first episode because they were worried when they got to the hey bills there scenario where ruefully was stuck there for eight hours. Can I ask You know we all have kids, but my mind is not of the tide shoes yet. Do you feel like you're both more expert nuts people as a result of working with kids with shoelaces as Michelle was alluding to? My kid ties his shoes about as well as a Ki- rob's got to speak. Only, have velcro shoes at my house I. Don't think anybody's tieing shoes I. Really liked how Michelle just went in with like user teeth. Titles knots. Jeff Pros would've love them because that's the thing. He absolutely about challenges Michelle generally, it was like. She blazed through those knots and I think that was also that was key because again, if it did come down to milliseconds that little lead that Michelle dot was was what you needed and God she was so frigging adorable. When like just a confessional her going Ya hot damn I did it was like I? Love. I love her so much room for all the way right now now now that Lee Lee had to falls that apparently Michelle show. Yes Mike. What's the part that Jeff probst is going to really like the when somebody suffers some sort of a tooth injury like jt and survivor token cheese he likes that no, I feel I feel like Jeff has a thing where like when somebody untying knots what their teeth he like has a particular spike energy like, wow that's how you play survivor using your teeth on a not. That's how you play survivor. Facet of it apparently out tooth out playoff lash out Naw. There was one more thing I forgot to bring up when we were talking about the individual challenge I enjoyed that Phil is calling the plays and kind of challenging his does channeling his inner probst commentate throughout the whole thing but I like it better when the people that are not in the individual challenges are sitting there with him and he gets them to contribute as well and I think this is going to be far more entertaining as the numbers dwindle and when you have like four people doing a challenge and eight people sitting there with Phil talking about what's going on I think that could be really entertaining. Yeah. Wow. Does that mean continuation of Phil Mad libs that he started doing this episode with the ages not film the blankly or stronger not hard like he's prompting audience responses. Now your sound sound like you're playing the pyramid. Okay work, smarter not. What are some other tough as nails praises? You can put in there my. Let's go to. Work. Person going into overtime is eliminated. Young. Yeah. Cancer. Probably majority, it's time to punch. Hours or in out, they don't punch it anymore. Punched in until their punch Dowse, we also have the confirmation tonight. Brought up with US last week on the show that the team that wins the most challenges just we'll get sixty K.. That's that's A. The kestler badge. Yeah. I was about to say that colorful that is by far my favorite badge of honor. Off on it. Yeah. They're like cows not being decapitated by grinder barbed wire. Yeah. It's like everybody's happy to see the calicoes. Happy to see them. It's all good. Okay. All right. Mike. Anything else you want to add before. We start to. Wrap up for tonight and get ready for fill. While, we're gone to some San next week we're going into a construction site which seems like it's like it's going to get a little amazing racy like it seems like one of the vans gets lost whereas the other one doesn't will be again some really intriguing crossover it looks like the drama has only just begun. GotTa look at the map babe. Map then get stuck in the sand and towed out but yeah, I, think that I don't know this. This has been an interesting episode in that I. Think that the interpersonal drama really got kicked up a notch and I, think that's sort of has helped maybe change the not the tone of the season but change the course of it a bit to bring in some of those more reality TV elements. I'm not mad at it. I think it's made for very interesting discussion. So I'll be intrigued to see if this was just you know a bar in the fence or this is going to be the whole post yeah. Okay just anything else you want to add about episode for. MOM overall fantastic episode. Best one so far think Phil seems to be suggesting that it's all going to be uphill from here. So I'm excited to see where it goes. I do like. They are taking actual like reality, TV editing tropes and flipping them on their heads. So we get the tearful life story of Tara and she's nowhere near eliminated this So yeah I and they're doing that obviously, they're doing that on purpose because they know we're expecting it and then we don't get the pay off and it creates more tension. So the tension is ratcheting up and I'm very I'm very all in on this show after the outcome of this obsess. Okay. So you're saying that the tension is akin to the dirty hands. Teams barbed wire as opposed to a much looser tension on the savage crews fence. Yes but all the posts are up ulcer lined up. Okay. All right. Jess it was great to talk through this episode with you I know that. You are also podcasting alongside Josh Winkler Brooklyn's add on the mole. Yep Abuse should all join us open multilateral it is. The funnest and loosest and kind of wacky EST podcast I'm doing this summer which. Considering that I also do this one is kind of saying quite a bit but we have a lot of fun with it. We have games every week. There's sort of a little sprinkling of BNB flavoring in the soup. Oh, it's so tasty and people are sending us dos because apparently now the thing is if Josh Wig on your podcast, it's fair game for you to send him a parody song. So we're going to be having a mole off at the end of the season where we play all this parodies that people are sending us and we are mounting and instagram. Social. Visibility slash harassment campaign to get Anderson Cooper to come and speak about the mole on the podcast. I don't think it's GonNa work but listen. Live. Once upon a time mutate into impossibility to get Phil on a podcast I'm saying like, yeah. Yeah, and I I also I wanNA thank you both for taking some extra time to break down the episode. Before you take all night preparing to talk to fill because you didn't have to have a special segment with me. You could have just hogged fill and the three of you could have done the recap. So I appreciate that I get to come on and talk about it and I'm very bummed that I will not get to speak to fill tomorrow please pass on my will and we'll all be back the other next Thursday to check them with bill after episode five okay. Jess. Safe travels, and then we'll talk with you next week and. Fill in just a moment art everybody has promised. We're very excited to bring in the host and creator of toughest nails. Please welcome in the Emmy Award winning Phil Cogan Phil. How. Are you going to ring the bell but I feel like that? And will give you a raised eyebrow every time it hits me Phil, would you would you? Be surprised to know that you're not the first person to get played in by that music actually more than one person have requested. Stinger be there sort of like wrestling intro music to whenever rob talk with them on a podcast. Okay. So who else is requested the SPEC mix mix in. A young man named John John that has also wanted to be introduced with that as well. But. None. Did you say? You guys Philly Phil or somebody. We'd love we'll call you whatever you want. Your the ranch hands here we're. We're just sort of penned up right now in more ways than why breaking down this episode, which was I mean I think that you know the expectations you built up were in a certain way. I. Think especially with that overtime which, oh, I could imagine I I know that you know as well from from being part of the amazing race it sometimes ending is get edited to make it look more neck than it was. But at least if if your reaction was to be considered a truly was down to the wire, it was down to the wire. There are things that happened on this series and I just was doing notes on show nine. Show nine. There are things that happen on this series if you sat down at a table and you said, okay, let's script out. We want to happen. We want this to happen. Then we want that it would not be able you're gonNA see things and people are going to be like questioning whether this actually happened or or whether we got like some very experienced scriptwriter to come in like Ridley Scott or something to come in and like craft the whole ending of the shows I mean, yes, and last night was it was TV gold and. You pray for those moments you. In your career there certain times in my career where. You know you can never repeat something that you you you. Just you just can't get any better like I had a dinner on erupting volcano and the volcano blew up as a toasted the chef. And the literally the volcano like blew up on Q. I mean you can't script and stuff and yes. Last night was one of those moments where. Be. It spoke to the whole thesis of what the show's about to, which is redefining what the meaning of tough is. and. While yeah. KAFFA moment. Now, we're all big Lee Marshall. Fans? That I really was very, very nervous during that whole battle because you're going to either way, you're gonNA, lose your Lee or Michelle. Such incredible stakes only a couple episodes in to lose either one. When you're in in the process of filming that. What that like to have like You know that these are two of like the top people that you have out there and they're going to do battle and one's going home In this episode, we're not going home, but out of the out of the kitchen, right out of the main competition well, it's it's. You know I have such a close. Attachment to every single one of the contestants because I respect them all so much and. Hopefully that comes across because I genuinely really like these people and Linda Goodridge's somebody who I have been. Looking, at to be on the show since two, thousand thirteen. Linnet I go back. You know as I mentioned in the last time. Deng. BACK TO WE'RE COMING UP TO THREE YEARS SINCE I first connected with her. And so get really attached I can't help it I mean I'm just so taxed and I think the only redeeming part of will of this is just the idea that nobody goes on. So Lee Marshall First of all. What an amazing human being okay. First of all the way he went into this like he was not gonNA. Lose and he was going to take it. But have you seen such grace like the way that he he? He acknowledged Michelle's effort. It was such a graceful honorable. Competitor. That's the stuff that to me. We'd let that breathe on the show because we want people to see that that that you can D- likely, Marshall and be all in, but then you can also be incredibly graceful. Acknowledging somebody else who beats you and I thought that. That spoke volumes and my favorite quote of the whole. One of my favorite quotes season we're at least says you got Michelle and bear a fight. You want to help out the bear like door about Michelle. She's good with with deadly accidentally spoil future challenge of the work that forest ranger than animal wrangler deal where they have to wrestle bears. Yes maybe it was foreshadowing something to come. But. What's what's great about this and without saying too much. Is I just want to say lease going to have a moment of redemption. This season on toughest nails Liam. Yes and this episode. Michelle mean starting Melissa had her moment of redemption in the fencing challenge. So that's the great thing about this format is that. Even if someone. Loses out in the individual. Their focus then becomes all about team and I just love the way that they embrace that. And do whatever it takes for their team and you are GonNa see that kind of commitment from probably. Marshall. There is as he says during no quick me is what he says and there is no quit net man at Man Sixty, two years old both of them going at it last night I mean it was so powerful TV did. So in terms of going to the farm, because obviously I can imagine that you plot these out ahead of time was just another like you can't script this stuff that farm girl gets eliminated previous challenge and then the next the very next thing is okay, this is my moment. This is the only challenge I can participate in yes and and look I I really believe one of my favorite quotes is luck is the residue of design. If you put the right elements in place in into things and you put the work in and you get the right people around you. And you set yourself up for things to happen good things to happen you put the work in I. Really do believe that sometimes the planets align as a result of the hard work so Is the residue of design and we saw that time and time again. On tough as nails where we set things up to happen, we had the best people in place in great cast and I'm telling you people when they watch some of the episodes they're going to question whether this really happened could could this really have happened like you kidding me like really and I'm telling you it's all legit it's all real. Real money on the line and everything real. I. Think one of the things it's a really great about the format fill is that we're going to see these people continue to be a part of the show moving on from. What point in the development process did that idea come up of keeping people around because it's sort of the? Antithesis of the reality show genre where that? Okay. We start with all these people and we whittle it down to this but this show. Were bringing out these characters, but we're keeping them all on board and continuing their story over the course of the season. Well I gotta say that CVS. And the executives at CBS being incredible collaborators in terms of embracing idea and? And we talked about this last time when people are have constructive. Criticism or you know constructive enough. To me that you have to be created to be constructive with your criticism, right and so all the way through the process and the development. They really gave us fantastic feedback and I mentioned to you that this. Team Challenge in an individual challenge goes back to two thousand thirteen riding around France and thinking about the Tour de France and thinking about the different competitions that happened within one race. It also happens in gymnastics where you have individual medals going to individual people who different disciplines, and then you have a team competition and in but it really came I, remember we had a meeting with. With Kelly call and and Tom Sherman over at CBS and they really loved the team aspect. They really liked that team idea and then the key and they sort of threw him back to us to say, yeah, let's let's go that way. We liked that idea and then it came down to. At. One point. There was a suggestion that we kind of tied the individual in with the team and I said, no, you can't do that because. If somebody is doing well in the individual it's. Their their progress and how well they do should not be determined by. The abilities of people on a team it's gotta be totally mutually. There has to be a mutually exclusive of mutually exclusive competition going on and so like I said, they embrace that we went with it and it's very scary when you. When I said scary relative word scary. But it's it's it's extremely challenging to make a first season show of anything because you're making like these huge decisions about the format you commit to it and you just don't know like as much as we thought this was going to work this idea of the two separate things. We didn't know how people would respond like when people think that how really like they get to stay, but they got caught like, what do you mean they get so The most positive. Thing of all of this whole thing as being a the response to the contestants and be that people really love that we took a completely different turn from other shows and did not send people home which fixed your point might which is. which is this idea that We can continually get to know Lee Marshall marshals out of the individual competition now, but you're going to get to know and love this man even more even though he's not an individual. I promise you. Whatever love you guys have from Lee Marshall, the Roofer ten, thousand roofs maybe more. You're going to love him even more by the individ. You'RE GONNA want you're gonNA rip your all. You're going to actually go and take your earth off and invite me over to put you on on because you just want to hang with. Oh. All right. Well. I don't know how my landlord will feel about that but I'll take that offer. So we we felt that this episode took a different tone than the previous ones and I think it's because you know while the drama in previous episodes by a bit more task focused who's going to get what done I it seemed like for one reason or another a lot of the conflict is episode was so interpersonal right when everything going on with savage crew and defenses to partner challenges, which I'm sure we'll talk about did that surprise you when you were being that out in the field that all of a sudden these these people have now been around long enough that they're starting to get to a bit of loggerheads with each other. It didn't surprise me at all because you know we we've seen this on race before as well, and it's and it's like any relationship. You go into a relationship is always polite period that honeymoon period where everybody's super polite. They do they're trying to do everything right there with make an extra effort to not create any you know to to to to not step on any toes and you know you're tiptoeing around certain subjects. He leave them alone because it's new in it's fresh and it's all everything. Is Great and then after you're with your friends after he gets a note for a while, you kind of push back and you go, you know I hate when you do that, would you stop doing that and you know and you get real and that's where we're at right now episode four it was about getting real being along the beam with each other now. As far as the actual shoot time went you're being around each other for male over a week in a with that kind of intense. A. That kind of intensity. It's like now. Okay it's getting real. I'm just GONNA. Tell you what I think. I'm not GonNa, I'm not gonNA beat around the Bush so to speak I'm gonNA. Just tell you what I think and You're going to see in the next episode. Things are going to get. Even more heated. With the teams because there's a jostling for power and this levels of frustration that kick in. Amongst each other because getting to know each other. A lot of crossover. With. People wanting to be in charge and they're all types I mean. For the for the most part and so yes, you're going to see it gets real. It gets real next episode Fisher. It could you give us your read on the drama that was happening with the savage crew in terms of from your perspective that were you seeing it as that Murph should have taken the leadership role and sort of been the person to been the captain of the team or that did Murph. Have the right idea of that. He needed to be the person who was more of the soldier out there executing the orders and that Tara needed to really step up into that leadership role. Yeah. I think that Murph was saying listen I just want to be. I think in the military, they call it a grunge right where you just never I just want to be the worker on this guys you know give me you put me on the end of of that Paul digger. Let me get in there I'm GONNA have my head down. I'm not going to be watching what's going on around me. I'm just going to be a grunt and I'm going to get the job done. Let me do that role today and because he is such a such a presence and because he has led up to three hundred people in the military two teams of six, I think. In that moment they kind of looking to him. As a dominant figure in thinking you know Murph you should lead what he was saying was and I think it just comes from his experience is one of the older competitors he was saying guys being the leader doesn't necessarily mean that I can't be a big contributor I. Don't have to be in charge to really help the team right now. We need someone to look at the big picture into into put us all to work into to assign us all to work. That's why it works. So well with Michelle in the train challenge because Michelle, although she wasn't the leader, she had the foresight to see where she could fit in in her role and be the proper team. A proper team contributor and I think that's exactly what Murph was doing was saying if we want to be strong work to our strengths, you should let me be the person who gets the Muslim work done in you guys figure out how to. Structure this plan this out this job how closed ended up being because we saw the pre commercial break was dirty hands. You know has a posted out of line, but it did seem like savage crew was all over the place. Were they able to to catch up significantly or was it a pretty big blowout alternately? I, there was a moment when we when we thought that savage crew were getting it together and maybe they could catch up. But what I love to me, one of my favorite moments in the whole show was. How Melissa Really owned. Her leadership role. Didn't take any nonsense. She she got all her Mojo back. Right. She got back into that team challenge having come off a very emotional. Getting caught from the individual competition and she just owned it and she just she dominated and look to be fair savage just didn't have it together. They said they did it and Melissa apart from that one mistake, which was not her fault that was a team era where maybe lost track of water team was doing but she didn't waste any time in telling them and being very frightening honest with them guys. We gotta fix this and do it now and she I mean did she rallying the troops and get everybody in line in a second and it was? It's wonderful. You know going back to last week talking about watching men and Women Compete On an equal playing field literally. where it's not about so much bias in the world. And even I watch I look online. And there were some comments from people saying that you know The fact that Linnet. is a woman was unfair for her to have to use the pushcart with the assumption that because she's a woman That she that her arm strength or her shoulder strength is less than young or that her power to weight regimes disappointing young because he's a man, we're we need to get past the idea that just isn't true. The genetically men. Statistically are stronger than women. If you look at per capita yes this is true but you cannot make a broad assumption that because it's a woman. going. Up against the man that the men. Automatically has an advantage over that particular woman. We have to look at things differently and so I love we're getting people to question. To ask those questions because I guarantee you, you put Melissa in an arm wrestle with most men her her way she will destroy them. Is a powerhouse and Linda. Linnet is incredibly strong. She struggled with that push the pushkar because she really sore from the shoveling and she'd hurt her shoulder. So I feel like we're kind of opening people's eyes up to. Put Men and women together have them competing together. Let's not have a women's division and a men's division is very few sports that have that I think question one of the few but we really it was really important for us to have that and to show that somebody like Melissa can be a real force in a powerhouse and get the job done and technically beat out. Immersing because Murphy's was technically the leader. You, talk a little bit about how you landed on the challenge to create the barbed wire fence on the farm. Did you just see the ball and you're like we gotta put it somewhere. So let's let's have them build it. Yet a some of the ideas literally come from conversations that I've had with my family and things that I have done in my life. I put a fence up with my dad when I was a kid. With barbed wire I remember I remember doing it with him I. Remember him talking about digging the polls and to go down a certain way and how we line them up and putting the level spirit. Of the spirit level as you, Santa. America on the Paul made sure it was lined up. He actually was stretching an old fence, a mesh fence and he tied it got a stick any. A really strong piece of wooden he tied into the end of the fence then tied onto the back of his pickup truck and we pulled it and stretched it any way down the line with the post word we nailed it didn't into place. So there was that in the irrigation challenge came from another job that I did with my dad when I was a kid because he's an agronomist to plant scientists in, he would put arrogation together and so I learned about that in the whole clips and how difficult that was. but if a huge number of diesels come from our challenge producer Sidney layer who I've been working with for a long time, incredibly creative guy and. You know like I said, last week nothing is. Nothing is made a mon you got to have a great team and we we just yeah I mean. To work in an environment. Where people are freely able to throw ideas in and. And you have that collaboration to try to get to the best place. So it's a very good feeling, but the goal is always as I mentioned to you. is to take that spirit of competition that happens in real world job sites and bring it to the show that being said I would love to talk about that pair challenge about the irrigation challenge. In. Your writer fell that all every show you're on has to involve pairs in some way teams are too but this is a really interesting opportunity so. Was it always when we're coming up with the concept of the individual challenge that you thought, there'd be a chance to have people knew maybe this individual is more in quotations because it's pairs and especially being pairs across teams. That that was not the intent in the in the in the original format that idea really came a came along. When once we realize some of the parameters of the actual challenge, the fact that one person could not move those huge irrigation pipes by themselves. The fact that we had ten people left at that particular point in the show. and. Then that we wanted to give an advantage to the winner of the previous individual challenge. So that was something that came in the development of the. Of the challenges and the show ideas, but we've liked it because. It made it very clean like last pairs going into overtime it made it very. Mixed it up a wee bit. I think anytime you can. You can mix the competition just to throw them off guard and a little bit. Makes it more interesting for the viewer and? It was so close. I mean, there were. So the ending was so incredibly close with with Kellyanne Young. Seconds ahead of of Leeann Michelle again something we couldn't script. But she's the radio happened. We surprised with the way that Murph went about putting the teams together and not really trying to. Sandbag any you know one team in trying to create an advantage for himself. No I think Murph. Murph represents a lot of things we would all like to be. He is a very principled. Man Who from the beginning you? TALKED ABOUT Wanting. To Compete. Against the best of the best and wanting to be to prove himself against the best. So I I don't think that that in this competition murph will ever shy away from. From wanting to go toe to toe with anybody because he he just he wants to be a competitor and he's just not that kind of guy i. mean I think he's used to build strong teams in the military and he was like, no, let's let's make a competition out of it. Now, he also picked someone who is very strong like insure that he could get through the. Mind I feel like he really balanced the team's pretty well, you know. I. Thought it was I thought they were good picks at thirty thirty S. he said he he wanted to make a good competition. I thought he did was he required to pair people up from opposite teams or could he have put like two savage crew to dirty hands? Yeah. He could do whatever they wanted. To pick somebody from his own team. Yeah no we. Totally up to him. and. I think it's just the way it worked out. It's sort of makes sense because theoretically the teams amidst meant to be balanced. So it does make sense that would be one from one team and one from another if you were looking at the balance of things. Better I think or at least from drama perspective right? Because you had people like Lyndon Lewis had never worked together killing a young had never worked together whereas to your point maybe if they were getting used to the rhythms of the people on their team, these are people that they have like casual conversations during downtime like I don't think Linda knew what she was getting into with Louis for instance and there there. there. was just a class of personality in Class A clash of of approach right? Like just the way that their work ethic is Linda reminds me of of Sarah Connor. Terminator like Yeah. This bad, ass. Strong, crazy power weight ratio A. Fighter and and Louis is much more laid back in Chile and. Comes from the islands and I think he's got more much more relaxed attitude and I think it was just a it was like water and oil with the tooth and. She said he's not that tough. Yeah. There was a big coal I mean on a show called tough as nails. That is a big call though I think that might just bite of come from a level of frustration from from her point of view and. Yes so she certainly spoke her mind. In this episode, we also saw a back story about Tara which we've gotten to see a couple of these packages so far this season last week I believe we have to see about with Murph, we talking with Jess last night that she was wondering if maybe that these are being put in there to sort of a subvert the expectations of the audience where the traditional reality TV show trope is. Oh, we saw a back story about Tara she's probably going to go home in this episode was any part of that would put put in there to try to throw people off from what they would normally expect on reality TV show. No honestly, we haven't done. We haven't really made any conscious effort to do that at all I think that backstory with Tara. that. That was something that's something that will continue. To evolve. And hopefully, you'll appreciate by the end of the series that we've done that with all the characters you're gonNA see. More of their backstories peppered through the series and From the beginning. We made we made a pact that we were not going to be the reality show that was about the competition as much as it was going to be the reality show that was about the people who are competing and. Our goal is that by the end of this season. If you don't love all of them. You love a lot of the cast you really get them. You understand them you see where they've come from. The fact that Tara has done what she has done in her life is pretty extraordinary, and again, that goes back to the mental strength that she has as a rod buster getting into A. Into a career that has very few women and how strong she had to do that having come from. The background that she's come from incredibly hard but Tara represents so many Americans who have come through. A really challenging upbringing with parents may be that have been drug addicts and being a foster child and she's as she is a grandmother says she's that statistic she's the Good Statistic Mother talked about her being and so. We want to share that story. because life is complicated and in. A lot of people in this country. A come through tough times and we want to hear he's somebody like you. Somebody like Michelle who's older underestimated all the time and That's a key part in. you know is we continue to Chattan. If you won't be back on later on whenever, but I would love to show you maybe later on board that we have. which my wife producing partner put together, which is story board. Every episode, every single story point from every single episode, it's a massive wall of of stories. Every conversation in the van every compensation in every interviewed by everything charted out chronologically from beginning to end and what we did was we went to the end and we work backwards through all those stories. Back to the beginning back to the very first time you meet somebody like Tara and we built the story elements and these story blocks to Tara story at the end. So, back reducing as we call it and that that's not something that you do WanNa show where you have. Sixty seventy competitor's running through a course. This is this is this is something that you do where it's much more of a docudrama kind of approach. Where you know that those characters are going to be through the whole season and if you want people to invest, you've got to tell a story and every character has a story arc. Every character has amid point in this story are. And you take those twelve stories and you put them into a three act structure over ten episodes and hopefully. By the end of it you you've got to know this person. Like. You would get to know someone over. An in any relationship where you get to know you dig in further and further and further and and and I mentioned this before the great thing about the format of the show is we don't have to frontload. That person exactly say episode one to you're going to learn more and more about them as they go. So. Something else just want to ask about is. Obviously, as the individual challenges progress, there's GonNa be more and more people sort of alongside you that have been eliminated from your own role as what is it like to like have that peanut gallery? Are you balancing stuff off of them? Are they an audience participants? Yeah. I love. It. Look there was an early version of the foment that was working on where I was I, think I mentioned to you that I was thinking about having a team leaders that wouldn't compete but that would yeah. And and part of the reason for that was I I thought that might be good to have someone to bounce. Off like with the commentary and to be able to bounce ideas off and then when we tested the show I mentioned to you we tested the show last year. I didn't have that and I only had the other competitors as the peanut gallery and it works so well. and. I was like I just I would rather hear from the competitors. About their other competitors than I would about someone not competing who's who's now. Not. Actively involved in the show that's they're literally to to give me someone to bounce off. So yes, it it becomes. The series goes on and I get more more people around me. More more interesting and. As, you can imagine leave becomes. A personal favourite because lease gotta live everything. Yes. He would have me in stitches sometimes with some of the things you would say like. Get some popcorn pull up front seat. Let's get it on. You know I'm very excited for for lease commentary I think that's one of the the bright sides of not having Lee in the main competition. He's still sort of get the best of both worlds where he's still in the team competition anything he gets to spend an entire challenge entire third of the show just giving one liners from the sidelines God he we had so much fun and. And Look. That's the other part. This is that they're not actively involved in that individual competition, but they're still part of the show. It's not like we go. See you later guys. Come back later team. No you're still getting to know who he is and anybody else who's eliminated. Because the hanging with me and we're having conversations so. Their character development continues it doesn't stop just because they're out of the individual. The we continue to see more challenges in the individual portion of the game where they're. Paired off or into smaller groups or or or more couples as we get to the even numbers that was an anomaly that that particular. That particular challenge something we wanted to try I mean. Because IT SEASON ONE You're also trying you're trying to see how people respond. don't. Want to. Do that maybe more than once because what happens if people didn't like it and then we've not twice then. So we're kind of dabbling and developing when you're doing a season one as well, and then like I said, because I really appreciate how indepth you guys getting into the critiquing of the show. I I'M GONNA. Take all of that feedback I'm reading people's comments about whether they what they like and what they don't like believe me it's I. It's it's the smart move to be looking at what people say in and. You can never. You can never please everybody but you can at least kind of go a lot of people are saying that they really like this or a lot of people don't like that. Let's take some notice of that and Atip more of that was take that out you. You've you've got to be you really need to be listening to the audience. So that's why I appreciate what what you guys do because I'm listening going. It's interesting. I. Didn't I didn't realize that we had a problem with those massive badges vodka. We liked them and the other one was really there's a Nice Papa Green like a nice pop colored no blood visible. Better, than the last one. You know. What's interesting is a grade one comment last night where a guy said, you know, I, didn't get the whole punching in, but now I get it and I think. To earlier compensation. It's like any show if you isolate the moment of the handing out of the rose or the. You know the flame going out more. You know some of the things that you see on reality shows like the have become like the that that sort of pivotal moment if you just isolated before anybody knew what the show was it just looks. Ridiculous. Will you accept this rose? But without it, it wouldn't be the same show, right so we needed to find something that was A. Where everybody stopped and there was a ritual, there was a ritual to. A punctuation to that this thing was happening that is an official you're punching out your name's going up on the board. And I know you guys were talking about at one point you know how? How Rudimentary? The board in the thing. I'M GONNA. Tell you that our budget first of all was probably one of the leanest budgets of any. In the last few years. But that's not the reason that we did that it was because we really wanted to stay away from flashy graphics and. Feel, very tactile and very real real world elements at work on the forty four gallon drums, the the punch card, which among people you know that's a callback for the past. Places that do it and That even if you look at all the graphic approach like last night, if you saw the graphics that we did for the irrigation sections, those are real photos of real irrigation pipes to try anything. Yes. So I've tried to and we've tried to. Steer away from like. Graphic look and more of an organic approach to graphic elements that are there is a texture a Patina to the graphics like actually a painted wall, and then we'll use that texture in put it into the name key so that it has. Just feels like it's kind of real but it of course, it's a computer generated real element if you like is the work whistle rail. The work whistles, wheel real wheel the work was fluids wheel. But I will I will tell you a little inside information. I had to wear earplugs to block out the sound because it was so loud. The first time I said it off. I just about myself. It's a, it's a, it's like a proper work whistle that. Beam out across a town. So people can hear it from ten miles away and I'm standing two feet away. What did you say? Yeah. Yeah. So we we've got a dampen the sound down next season. Actually, not damaged my hearing. How does it work? It's a horn. Yeah. So it's It's worth. It works with compressed air this. There's a company out of. Cincinnati Ohio it'd be making these things for over one hundred years and in the coal mining town where. My. Grandparents lived in Westport New Zealand and all around the world quite frankly these horns have been used for for a long long time. Of course in Fred Flintstone got. In there but it's it's a very symbolic thing about the word whistles going you gotta go to work, and so a lot of the vernacular in the show like it's time to go to work, and then the horn goes is it is a callback to that was the. Signal to go to work so. I kind of went old school with a lot of that stuff. In, the time cards and Just to try to make it for those people who know they know and? Those people who don't maybe get educated and look up the. Cincinnati work owns and go what what are these things but it's real. It's not cheap that thing I mean we We spent a lot of money on that I. Hope you like. From Cincinnati should just ask Michelle to fly over put it in her carry on on the way to L. A.. Speaking of Michelle one of the things that becomes very evident through the season is that it's nothing Michelle hasn't done and there's nothing that she where she doesn't know somebody who does it and it becomes kind of joke throughout the season as. You probably know somebody who has done this. Well. It's funny. You should say. I. Got Somebody for everything everybody. Yeah. Yeah. Fill. Is there anything you can tell us about next week show? Yes Let. Me Put my next week show hat on because I'm doing. Coloring show one of seven today and Mixie only that you you mentioned sand to the players if it looks like they're going to a construction site next week. I'm getting you. I do remember but I'm just telling you so. Next week. Halfway Point mid point if you're looking at a you know three act structure of a movie you look at that midpoint. There's a turn next week and there's some there's some challenges this. Issues with with the team dynamics. That will become very evident very quickly. They're going to this incredible facility where there's a sane factory. and. This Sanfrecce Jill Brandon, which is. ABOUT FORTY FIVE MINUTES NORTH YEAR IN LA they may saying that get sold all of the world, the from the finest finest saying the US from all evil in San this used to make roads all the way through to p gravel, which is kind of this big. I'm holding my fingers. It's like maybe a half an inch and then to rock gravel, which is like maybe inch long of rock and everything in between different grades and the shot, the movies they're like futuristic movies because the structure this the same scenes, these gravel machines are unbelievable and. So that's the setting for that and then. The individual challenge is quite a physical one again, more more surprises coming in individual challenge, and then the the overtime. We we take them down into a pit for the overtime and that's also very. Dramatic Finish. Surprisingly it was surprisingly called. When we were shooting in La? So it's it's a it's tough. It's tough in terms of the of the teams being. Pretty rugged for the environments. Bill on the production schedule is it is it one day for the team competition in one day for the individual? Competition Yeah and and So it's Today's show. Then, obviously on the. On the team competition day we get we also extra time to be able to do more interviews. With the teams. In. Yet works out about. Right. Any Day of course, just. Increases the size of your budget, right? and. Yeah network whistle doesn't come cheap. Right now. One of the things that In, a credit to the. To the challenge department in we were we're when you're a brand new show when you call up and you say, Hey, we got these people that want to come to your workplace and do your do the jobs you do there. What's the show called school tough as now? What networks on CBS WHOA? Oh that's because it's a new show well, now the show's GonNa out we've got people going hey, why don't you come to our workplaces Rats Nice That's good. Season one is always like just to get out of the gate. It's some so hard. You've got so many things you've got get right. And is no second chances. So it's a weird time right now but you know the ratings from last night came out and the fact that we're holding the demo and that our audience went up slightly, which is good I just really feel like this show just from reading everything that I'm reading I really feel like this is one of these shows that is gonna be a word of mouth show where people will. Start talking about it more and more not particularly because it's GonNa pay out as the series goes on. So that's exciting. I know we. We did really well in Canada. We are top ten for the weekend in Canada I. Think Canadians really get loud as a people. and. You know I'm very proud of that because I know what the budgets are of some shows that we're. Beating out and We have a very small team. Yeah. I am so proud of. What everybody has achieved on this with what we've had. We've really played to the. My favorite quote which I think shared with you we didn't have money. So we had to thank we've really had to think to make this thing work. And I've always believed that when the less you have the more you have to think in the more you think more created you have to get and so. What we have on air on really really proud of knowing again, knowing what some other budgets for shows. I. I. Don't know if you know this. Because I know that big brother as of this morning just released that a new seasons is GONNA be coming out in a couple of weeks and I do know that it said in its schedule every airing on. Eight g you know if toughest nails is going to shift times at all are going to stick to wins eight for the foreseeable future I don't know it's a good question I mean, I think the original intention was that we were going to slip to nine when big brother came back on but I don't know I. I'm Yeah I'm waiting I'm waiting to hear I mean big brother owned that eight o'clock time slot for for a long long time right and so it it probably makes sense that they put them back to eight where people know it and we're new show and hopefully. People. Because, we're a brand new show new season was still trying to prove ourselves. That people will make that shift and go to nine or they'll pick it up and recorded and watch whatever. But yeah, I'm I'm just Happy that the show is is working and when I say working I judge working by the fact that we're getting that Demo and that the ordinance olding Yeah I think our job is to as. Is Producers. And storytellers job is to make sure that when people come to the party, they don't leave because they're having a good time. The part of getting people to come to the party sending out of the invites and letting people know that this thing is happening. That's something that's out of our hands. It's out of our control and. In and I think right now trying to get the invitations out and getting people to read them is challenging not just for us but if you look across the board and viewers ships. In across old television, it's difficult to kind of cut through and say, Hey, this thing happening. But I really do believe like going way way back with amazing race where we were absolutely a word of mouth show where people started talking about the show and then the audience built I really believe our show is that show I think. The fact that so many people overseas are. Inquiring about the format of the countries everywhere from. Two Scandinavian, countries that they've seen the format Noah while we WANNA do that they're out in. The fact that that's happening speaks to me that we have something. If we get a shot at going to a season two we, Gotta Take. Everything we've learned and be better. which is like any show. And you've just got to be open to learning listening in. Like. Anything in life you know you can always be better. You gotta strive to be better. fill anything else you WANNA tell us about episode number four. No No I'm really up I. Feel like we've we've covered a lot of ground. Yet you got you got any any advice that I take back to post production about anything. I'm trying to think any any advice on. Uh. Criticism. Puts him pillows around the work whistle next time maybe just to soften it up a little bit or meet like a trumpet took and do a little bit of Wa wa. Nee. I thought somebody could have tried to ride the ball. That would have been to get overtime that'd been good time actually. So right. We. Yes. Next time. Overtime Michelle unle-. Melissa could have done it in Melissa Yup would put him. We get him on the bull. Yeah. Nine, a barbed wire enclosure. Yeah Great I. Think he use the irrigation to water the dirt around so gets nice and muddy as well. Really combined all elements of the challenge waste not whatnot as you pointed out before. One night and we put the Burger. The water runs down so there. Is a flood going on and then the allegation continues to sprinkle. So it's like it's raining simulated rain a flash flood barbed wire enclosure to people on a bowl. And whoever can stay on the longest stays in Zhou stays in the individual competition I like it yet. Great. Really great suggestion. COOKEVILLE. That the I know you're a fan of the barbed wire mike is going to be giving his first tattoo very. Do. You think that barbed wire could be a good way for Mike to go for that first Tattoo show, I am the ball that needs to be corralled. Yes well, maybe you could. You could you have head the barbed wire that goes around people's BICEP? Yeah. Yeah. That's that's where I'm going to I'm going to be getting it so it might be might be contagious. Well, you know I've always felt a little threatened by the the sheer size of you. I. Don't think it's just the way I present on screen I'm very close the frame. Camera amplified but you are looking incredibly you look enormous you look you look yes. Very, strong huge your by flexing Phil Cogan right now just so I can have that on record. Are Listen before I leave. Do you mind? Playing me out with a little speck. great. The host of toughest nails the grade. Phil Cogan Phil thank you again and tell. All right. There you have Phil Cogan. Wow. This is this says the exact opposite of that we keep losing people and they don't stay on. It's just the two US rob yes. Now it's down now it's just us. Mike. So we're recording this podcast now Thursday morning after catching up with Phil, but I it was a busy Newsday. OP. The big article about what's coming up with a big brother twenty big brother twenty, two brothers. Twenty two, it's the twentieth anniversary, but it's twenty two seasons I mean to quote. The CBS reality show that we have not discussed in this episode yet it's real. It's happening big brother all stars parentheses too but big brother all stars the second edition is officially haning August they just calling it big brother all stars Yucca. This is this is not too unfamiliar. This actually happened with the amazing race. I don't know if you remember but the amazing race twenty four, which is one of the season's you ingest covered use the regular. You know just called an amazing race. All Stars even though season eleven was also called. That's survivor could do another season and call it survivor all stars, and then I will call. This is survivor all stars erasure and then I'll say actually Not. That bad of a thing. Yeah. Exactly. Listen I think that I think that the show maybe wishes that they could have better two word titles that repeat all stars again, rather than having to substitute other terms, you could also use like service star. Trek. You'd like Prime Universe Mirror University all-stars rhyme and all-stars Secondary. Okay but yeah, ten happening August fifth all right August fifth. This is very exciting. So Mike has a great article up if you go to parade dot Com or follow a real Mike Bloom type. Or, a Mike Real flipside who who? Is that your secret like sub shade of. Its writing my twitter handle. Yeah that's that's my. Fake Mike Bloomberg Account Real. Mike. You could follow actual Mike Bloom. He's. Mike. Mike we're GONNA do a podcast later on today that's going to be a rumor mill round up for big. Brother twenty to talk with. Taryn Armstrong, and Sharon tharp who's been writing a bunch of articles all throughout the rumor mill season for US Weekly. Yeah. To Aaron and Sharon. It makes so much sense actually love jared I got to meet her I. Know She's a longtime lesser. I got to meet him. We did a top chef event together in New York. Yeah. Suffice it to say even though the announcement has become official. There's been talk of the town in a manner of speaking has been this for quite some time. So there is a lot to be had between various sources claiming who's been there. It seems like we don't have to wait long for natural gas I. Believe it was just announced via the live feeds that there's going to be interviews going on the twenty ninth and the. revealed might even be earlier than that but I am still in disbelief that even just looking outside of this rob. In this year, we had three major reality franchises do all star seizes and that truly especially like big brother all stars which even though we've had returning players out the Wazoo has not done in actual all started season for nearly fifteen years Yeah this is. Wild Times while time. We'll see we'll see what's going on with big brother as we get closer to finding out who are going to be the big brother. All Stars to check that out. Mike. What else do you have gone on the podcast world So another thing I actually did on parade this week I got spoke speak with Jatiya, heart who you actually had the pleasure. As well about the soul survivors organization, which again, Wall survivor might not be necessarily on the horizon. There's certainly a lot of very necessary and great discourse about survivor going on via SA and the events that you had i. know you just recently had a panel about Lgbtq plus representation in survivor. That was really great. So essentially, I spoke with tears shed a little bit more light on the origins of the organization what their purpose is with. The recent petition that I think has reached nearly seven thousand signatures. So what the next steps are so I highly encourage survivor fans to check that out outside of that top chef we are going to be. On top chef wants more this week recovering the Netflix documentary series salt fat acid heat, which is a nice like travel food documentary that I've been in I'm in the middle of and I, really enjoyed and then over on potion we're GONNA come up with an acronym for salt fat acid he's FAA or pause if you want to range them fat acid salt heat fash fash I mean it's based on a book I. Don't know if maybe they change it was like a Justin Timberlake from the social network type guy that's like change it around a little bit. It's GonNa read better that way but no, it does not sound like some sort of comic book. Criminal Syndicate like Fash. It's it's salt fat acid heat. Encouraging people to fall along with us, check that out ashes in a good way to go maybe maybe in this day and age fashioned. S It. He you trying to come up with. This, right. Yeah half's. Like there's That could that might be a good one. It could be you could do Fosse FAA chess that sounds I know Nordic or something Yeah okay. But outside of rearranging four letters Allah and SNL skit from back in the day Josh McGuire on down the hatch finally got into season three of lost. We talked about the season three premiere, which spoiler alert I think he I liked more than maybe the good majority of our listeners. So we get into all things Juliet Burke Ben Linus is finally revealed for the man he is and I'm so excited to get into season three of loss. So we've got all that going on, and if you wanted any other random updates, follow at a real Mike Bloom type for any sort of other. Mike. Bloom. Taedong confuse people a there you go. All right. Mike great work as per usual. Big Brother Rumor Roundup, podcast coming up got another talking with T. Bird that is in the can that we're going to drop on you a very soon. And much more. Of course, all this podcasting made possible by the patrons of. Has A podcast you can find out more about everything we're doing in our Patriot community at ROB has website I com slash patron take care pretty good one by. All right. You've already heard the news, but let me be the one telling you the news. Let's pretend that I'm the one giving to for the first time sports are coming back and there's nothing you can do about it at this point. So your chance to bet on sports now with our exclusive wagering partner bad online dot ag joining me now is Dave Mason who's going to be sharing some of the updates of what's coming next to bed online. What's happening there Dave Lots finally. Thank. You My. Own Paint Rush Ping. Pong and marble races and all that sort of stuff and I didn't know what the Heck I was doing. But now we're back to sports somewhat familiar with so I'm I'm pretty happy but getting really busy too. I hear you man I, mean the the summer's been consumed who knew so many people with Love Golf. But of course when you when you can lay down a little bit of loot on it, it makes everything a little more fun and Now, just out on the horizon, you don't even have to squint too hard because they're right there you MLB. NBA. And the PUCK is going to drop I think in particular for me the hockey fan I can't wait for early. August to get here with with ten straight days of never fewer than than four or five games, right? So yeah, and you guys are ready to take action on all those Yep and we had the odd ready to rock and I'll. Be. Comes first. In. Our odds, we have great timelines and those all the futures are up the world series. Everything we're ready to go. Of course, you had to tweak some rules here and there with a sixty game season yellow yet no action on the season win totals and put up new season win totals, and then there's been available but of a cat and mouse game very hectic going to slow times even though those slow in sports. Where adjust on the fly on stuff like that, and if on weekend starts with any game regular season, we have season, and once again, we had no action all the season's totals because they didn't play the complete season but we opened the eight game season windowless for any many season coming up and all the playoff odds center than Yup reduced juice NHL is back after that. So and then we get into the NFL discussion, right? Now. Now we're really it's going to be. It's GONNA be crazy. Every. November, there's that one or two days when all four sports are are in in session together and and with the sports equinoxes now we're going to have a two month long sports Gwen Oxen. It's going to be insane. So the guys the guys arrested up in the rain Iraq so I and way move over March madness here comes August Agus nece I dunno work on that you can. Let let's workshop that a little bit but man August figures to be just divine and like you say, pro football on the other side of summertime kicking off, and it really looks like everything's tracking in the right direction there for us to get our most beloved of of all sports, it must be tough to divine tougher. Obviously, we got a good look at. which teams were relevant in terms of chasing the title in the NBA same goes for the NHL The lag and how that might impact the players notwithstanding I assume that that that set in the lines, the futures for Major League Baseball here has been especially tough with a sixty game slate coming up right. No absolutely I mean we're we're in kind of unchartered ground paranoid? You're not just paying attention to injury news. Now you're paying attention to the Cova News to you know. Zayn William Lease leaves the camp. Now, who knows what's going on there? Hope everything's all right. But I'M GONNA get I'm just talking from the business standpoint. Now he's GonNa come back. Who knows how long it's GonNa be gone. Becomes back he's GonNa have the quarantine is economic. Gains. Because of that in effect you know that that news came out, we started getting hit by. Some some bets on the other side. So it's just you know crazy all these situations entered is so unique to all of us in the business. I mentioned all know actioning and see the win totals and then putting up. Amended Season Win toll for a game season for God. Sakes. So it's GonNa be it's GonNa. Be Interesting few months but we're so happy the Games are back. We know there's going to be some unique situations where we're going to get hit in the Injure reports are going to be different than it used to be right? Yeah. Wall dapper betters will adapt in and as long as the Games on TV tonight. That's all we care about. Well Yeah. I mean yeah it's not cavalier. Obviously everybody's. Aware of how bizarre the twenty twenty years been on so many fronts and I wonder if there's some smart angle of looking at guys in. Major. League Baseball specifically who have an act of. Guys who light it up in. Early season. Perennially. Guys who bats in in April and May and then they tend to cool off in the second half if. Focusing on if A team has a preponderance of those guys who fit that description if they're suddenly become a nice little sleep or play for you there those are. Unique things that you can look for ear totally especially, you know in and stuff like props to. Season Leader for home runs stuff like that. You know, how does your thrown out a guy who's start slow and has a great summer? Will that great some are that's the start of the season. Now, guys know we all those guys who who don't hit well during the cold months. Then when the summer heat mandate they're they're they're lightning in a bottle. So you're gonNA have they just odds accordingly? Okay. That players in meat potatoes for two two and a half months and right go for mayor. So absolutely, there's all sorts of angles and our guys are trying to keep up with them. We very sharp better bet online and they're all over it too. Well, believe me I'm looking at the NFL futures as we speak and. 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Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney

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SCOREBOARD: Moment By Moment

"As someone who lives in breezy college football, I can promise you that this season will bring the mayhem. You'll feel it during huge wins and heartbreaking losses on Dame, winning drive, drives it in a post game Fender bender. This season teaming up with AllState highlight these key moments. The let fans know if mayhem can show up on game day. Imagine what can happen. The rest of the week for expert advice call your local agent today. These these baseball tonight scoreboard BUSTER only. This is the baseball tonight scoreboard for Wednesday, October seventeen, two thousand eighteen coming up. The Red Sox pull away late Houston while the dodgers and brewers settle things late in the night in game for the or did they because the brewers are really unhappy with Manny Machado. Let's get to it. The first page. You know, lay game for the brewers with a two to one lead in the series going into game four and Brian dosier gave the dodgers the lead the bottom of the first right hand about it. Good player guys had a nice long career and a guy with power robber tribe and denied it. It's gonna pay as he likes the left. View. Taylor is gonna come into score dozer Gibbs dodgers early wanted. Nothing. Unmistakable voice, their of Dan Schulman on ESPN radio. Geo Gonzales started for the brewers, but something bad happened for him. I swing grabble off the love against dollars over near the third base line, and he's got no play on infield hit for week and geo Consol is limping as well. Pretty bad. We get a look at a replay right now. And yes, his left ankle role badly on the mound when he came back down after jumping up and try to make a play on that bowl. Oh yeah. It was an ugly looking injury, and he told her Pedro Gomez after the game that he will be replaced on the brewers roster because he will not be available. So the concerns for the brewers and who starts at the outset of these games will grow even more because you dollars taken out of action, Freddie Peralta replaced, you got a huge out Walter outed front one and two. Comes at a fastball, strike three call and he knew it. He took it near the inside corner high and a big big out for Peralta and the brewers as Muncie. Let's go globeop in top of the fifth inning. The brewers would tie the score, the one to swinging a fly ball to right center field. We giving chase can't get there. It's up against the wall on the balance our see getting away around. Third, does yours throw to the plate? Not in time are SIA dies in head first on the RBI double by Santa Anna who doesn't again, and Milwaukee has tied the game. And it would remain tied into the ninth inning. Travis Shaw at the plate for the brewers kenley Jansen on the mound for the dodgers Janssen come set. Cups, the pitch swing it Abassi. Got it. Janson strikes out Shaw and the brewers will leave a man on both managers. Scrambling, sixteen pitchers would be used in this game bowl, teams moving around their position players and Cody Bellinger was in right field for this one to on the way and Kane slices ball softly to right field. June. Joe racing into the Alliot right-center, diving headlong and coming up with the grab win the ball, just inches away from hitting the outfield brass. Dow is in the top of the tenth inning. In the bottom of the tenth inning. This really weird play. Here's the three one and Machado swings at grounds at sharply to arsia out a short who flips it onto I in time for the second out. And I think Aguilar got spiked by Machado as Machado cross the bag, an Aggie lar- talking of Chata would not a friendly way to show talk to back to. I think Machado Saint, hey, your foot was in the middle of the bag. What could I do and LARs happy, and now the dugouts are empty. Eric branch, try to get in there and keep the peace and the dugouts have come out here. Everybody is out of the field as Aggie lar and Machado were jawing at one another. After looked like Machado stepped on, maybe the back of the heel of Aggie LARs foot is he crossed the bag. Now there would be a lot more said about this after the game, Machado Aggie Alar made nice during the course of the game, but certainly moving forward, it's going to be. Question, how will the brewers handle this with Manny? Machado Julio Rheos pitch the top of the thirteenth inning for the dodgers their ninth pitcher in this game that maintain the one all when he held the brewers to know runs in the bottom of the thirteenth inning. Cody Bellinger came the plate. A runner at second Dera has signed Lansing back at Machado would second now three to swing a base. No, it's up throwing it is time. Works for the dodgers their the thirteenth inning. Yeah. So Cody Bellinger is the final hero after the relievers were heroes for the brewers. In this game, eleven two-thirds innings. Five hits one earned. Run seventeen strikeouts from their bullpen. The dodgers bullpen aid in as five hits. One runs nine strikeouts numbers from our friend, Kyle soppe Cody bellinger's spoke after the game about how it felt to end the game. It's probably a feeling that you won't forget you guys chase after you. Honestly, I was surprised that there are throwing me, I thought they're going to try and pitch around me and get me to swing. And once I saw that they were attacking me, it was just it was kinda grind mode and do it. You can't put the ball in play in China in this game. On the baseball tonight. Podcast Schoenfeld will tell you whether or not he thinks that Craig counsel. The birds manager made a mistake and not pitching around Cody Bellinger in that spot is I mentioned a lot of talk about Manny Machado and his play with angular and the tenth inning. Here's Christian yelich. He's a player that has a history of those types of incidents. One times and actually over and over and over again, just thirty player dirty play by dirty player. And that's I have a lot of respect for him as a player, but you can't respect someone as the. As a tough baseball. But it has no place in. I mean, we've all grounded out on doing your whole life like everybody else. You know if it's an accident accident, but the replay till us, it clearly looks like guy your way to step on someone running to somebody and just has no place really doesn't. Manny. Machado was asked about his response to what Christian yelich said, play baseball. I try to win for my team. So. Commerce through their common, so I can nothing. About that? Why did you collide with Agla there? Why? I mean, you saw the replay poly. So this bag trying to get over him caters. That's thirty thirty mean. I don't know, call it, which did you kind of patch things up after the fact, or we'll stay on the field on the field and between the lines by, was he still angry with you? When we go way back, you know, we, we go away depend on my lease ago so you know, whatever have have field between the lines and Josh, you saw the play look kicked as going over first base with his left foot. He kicked Aggie lar and I don't think all it anything other than dirty play. What did you think? I agree. I agree. And I like to try to see both sides, try to play devil's advocate in situations like this when a lot of people are coming after one individual for an action, but there's no question about it that it it was. He intentionally kicked him and you could debate? Well, just because there's intent. Does that make dirty in my mind? Yes. If you intend to do something to play like that it is then dirty? Yes, Josh Hader pitched in any in this game after getting two outs and game three, Craig counsel. The brewers manager talked about the tough loss and losing hater you the way that was going to be a game where one team really gonna hurt to lose that game to come out on the wrong side of it. Where does it leave your team, especially with using Josh and potentially not having them for tomorrow and the dodgers having Clayton Kershaw tomorrow. Yeah, it's it's not about Josh. We we had to cover thirteen innings of baseball. The game's not about Josh. So, you know, we're, I think anytime you've got gotta cover thirteen innings and there's a game the next day. You're always worried about that. And and. You know, we will have to kind of put our heads together and look at what we got. We've got some guys that we've used quite a bit. We were able to stay away from a couple of guys tonight. But you know, we're, we're a little bit of a tough spot for sure. And I think I think that's just the nature thirteen in a game and and losing your starter in the second inning. So. We got some incredible pitching performance tonight. Freddie and junior as well. We're absolutely wonderful and really put us in a spot to to give us some chances to try to put them runs on the board, and they'd be looking for heroes later today for sure. Way Miley will start for the brewers, Clayton Kershaw for the dodgers game three, the American League championship series in Houston. In the top of the first inning JD Martinez gave the Red Sox lead gyco at the belt. Swing and a live dry Basit inside the first base line and down the right field line off a side wall that surround score Benintendi stop at third JD Martinez with an RBI double the opposite way. The Red Sox have jumped out. It is one to nothing as tina's goes the opposite way in line to double down the first baseline in that first inning. The Red Sox with an approach to take high is sinker changeup to the opposite field through the middle of the field. They did a great job of those at bats book Shami by the way, the legend calling this series for ESPN radio Marlin Gonzalez got a hit to cut the boss lead to two one in the bottom of the first. Here's the pinch, goes slamming, align drive to three. Three to score gory. Oh, won't stop. Third, it's an RBI single for Marlin Gonzales. The Astros on the board. It's two one. In the top of the third inning. The Red Sox had a couple of runners on base Steve Pearce at the plate in this happen at the Bill. The to swing and a high fly ball, left camp. Going back, pampered Vitrac camp near the wall, leaping, any major ground water cats. The little guy climbed the scoreboard and stole extra bases from Steve Pearce. And that play was reviewed and in New York, they determined that the call was confirmed that he made the catch after that, though some more video emerged social media, which raises questions about whether or not he actually did catch. The ball will be talking about that on the baseball tonight. Podcast, Alex bregman has been red hot in this postseason in the bottom of the fifth inning came through again. To third short, how. Don't towards foreigners. Here's tubing to send it to a spreading around third to score, and it's a two two game in between for ever slight data missed it, and it got past all the way to the left field corner. Now, a good third baseman probably would've made that play, and it might have been a generous scoring call to give bregman a double. But Josh, Alex bregman another hit his base percentage for the postseason after that at bat was up to seven, forty one. The only other time I can remember it seemed inevitable that hitter was going to do something. I remember watching Danny Murphy during that incredible run that he had in two thousand fifteen where he inning home run in every bet is Red Sox fan. What are you seeing when bregman comes to the place? I see a guy who's walking the walk BUSTER. People want to give him a hard time because he's talking the talk and talking a little junk which I have no problem with. I like some good trash talk every now and then but people say if you're going to talk like that, you'd better back it up and man. He is backing it up so tip of the cat. By the way before this game, I got a chance to talk to bregman about the social media thing. The Instagram post with the home runs off. Nathan of all these started for the Red Sox, and he gets the best of me. I'll be the first one to say an after the game after the events of game three bregman was there talking to reporters acknowledging where he didn't get it done? Absolute. Joe Smith came on for the Houston Astros in the top of the six inning St. Pierce was at the plate again for the Red Sox swing and a high fly. All of its parrots gone down the left you. Okay. And that one is. Homerun, Steve Pearce as a down the left field line and hook just inside the poll. Here's touch. All the Red Sox backout brought. It is three two. AJ Hinch working to keep the game close brought in. He's closer Roberta's soon. It had to pitch the top of the eighth inning. But as soon a lead a couple of guys got on base hit Brock Holt, the bases were loaded and this happened to want you to them. And it forces in Iran, how huge is that the Red Sox get some insurance and it's forty two. The inning continued Jackie Bradley Jr. came to the plate and find. Slang hype. My all right field Rennick ready track, tearing. Jackie Bradley Jr. of grand slam. He unloads over the right field wall the slow track around bases and the Red Sox now lead it. It is eight to two. Wow. This was a final call in the bottom of the night. Dinning walls t. strikes count, Springer weights, lefty, look, swang, amiss struck out ballgame Red Sox at eight to two final score taken a two one lead this American League championship series a to the final score. Nathan of all the continues to show what a big game pitcher could be. Of course, one game three of Boston series against the Yankees in the division series. He wins this game six innings to earn runs. I talked to St. peers after the game guys blow it open in the eighth inning. Tell me what was going through your mind watching Jackie's drive overripe at wall. I tell you what he's always big hits and when he was coming up, I kind of feel like going to happen, especially the way ending with that was everything I was going on. That score was tied to all got a right hander against you. What would your plan in the six. Just look for somebody can handle in split swing on it. That's really all I can control it. They're trying to do a lot of debate on social media about a previous bad. You had a long, five, all the left field. What do you think happened on that played? It hit the wall. He catch it. I haven't seen it yet, but he made it. He made a heck of a play. You know what you would hit the wall. We broke it open a little earlier, but we did later how about Nathan of all the in the Yankee series. And then again, here tonight game, I love what is on the mount. He's he has a presence about him and he drinks annoys every pitch and locally. Hi. It was Jackie Bradley Jr. Jackie. How big is this Winfield tonight? One one coming to gain three in used his really, really good. We weren't able to beat them last year here. So we have get that person out of the way, hopefully build some momentum going to describe it felt like when you hit that ball off a SUNA, did you think it was out? What did you say? I mean, I put some put a good swing on bird it up. I thought it was gonna be out if it wouldn't have been upset, but facing really good pitcher. Anytime you can put some extra runs the board facing a good Astros team like that is very helpful. AJ Hinch. The Astros manager talked about why he went with the sooner using sooner in the eighth. They're trying to win the game. We're trying to keep it at the one run game with with really effective closer against the middle part of their order. So we get out of that three to they got, we got, we got plenty outs left and you never know what can happen as we saw. Alex score gave an update on Chris sale who may or may not start game five cell say he said is way said, I'm good enough. So even throw wolf into he'll go there tomorrow and then we'll go from there. During the course of the game story broke from Boston metro, that major league baseball is looking into an incident that happened in Boston. What an Astros employee was in the photographer? Well, on the Red Sox side of the home next to the home dugout and major league baseball. Looking to the question of whether or not this Astros employee was videotaping, the Red Sox made some calls on this last night. What I was told was who sort of like a counterintelligence issue where they wondered if the Red Sox were videotaping them, and so they were videotaping the Red Sox AJ Hinch Alex Cora were asked about this after the game. Are you aware of this report that came out today that is accusing your team of stealing signs? And if so, what are your thoughts on that aware of something going on? But I haven't been briefed on. I'm worried about the game that will be knowledge that they're looking into a matter way. Part of the stroz camera near dugout you caused. Somebody mentioned to me right now on the thing. OBI, you know the what they have to, but I just do you have any concerns that signs are being stolen or anything like that? I'm always concerned about that through other seasons of my main. We job changing so you can say, paying attention to details and you know, we don't cut up on the whole paranoia thing the sign. So we try to slow it down and we feel there's something on this. 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Lampard Under Fire?

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Lampard Under Fire?

"Welcome insulates addition of e._s._p._n. Dan thomas joined today by craig burley alley moreno run and we also welcome and dog to the show as we continue to reflect opening weekend of the premier league season. We saw the big talking point chelsea's trash into the hands of the united not josie. Marina was a pundit for this game in the u._k. And punches when it came to the criticism of franklin parts tat takes. He's just a slice of what he had to say. Alonso also on the bench concert was on the venture was on the bench and come on traffic even if this is not a huge manchester united that used to scare people. It's manchester united if comes conclave thirty thirty five minutes he can start the game and then if he lost only one hour then he lost one hour. This is what frank lampard at the same response but dry without medical room to play with their experience so these applies supplies that we played today diplo is on the bench which in a game that we clearly the better team for forty five to sixty minutes is that we might individual errors led to four of the five shots so there's the harsh reality forest at least ring saying something so i'm going to get these funds say nothing done at least he's. He's not afraid to speak. How is he right subjective because frontline pilots correct in extent. I don't know i i don't think jerry was carrying an engineer setting county heartbeat and then you go to gauge how plan for no bought de restful let engine because you need him by one game you need him for the season you without county for six weeks or longer. The other side of the coin is and it wasn't talks to there but he was talking about mason and people like that. I'm laura honestly. I didn't this job. I'm lou of as a pundit start pecking on young on guys coming into the team particularly guys with little to no experience primarily for that there are other people in the pitch for chelsea that should've taken responsibility as the quetta for a couple of goals was imported possessions and made mistakes so he's got an opinion interest in francs responded to yeah because that's going to be something going and he's going to have to get used to old the season. Was it naive from lampooned. Starting eleven first of all the short short term memory. Oh similarly annoy is is incredible. It's unbelievable and it's difficult to be quite honest with you because when he refers to say night and not being the huge manchester united well he has had a part in that has any in any case so chelsea goes in there and he and frank lampard decides to play the players that are healthy that are ready for him to go out on the field and we'll tell you for the first thirty minutes or so chelsea and emerson was done the science state of alonso sit in the post. They're dangerous. They're creating opportunities. They did not take advantage of those opportunities and in the end they get punished by their own mistakes court sumo taking down. Don't marcial in the box and from then on the game change has to be naive if we are saying that manchester united and yosemite when you're saying that it's not it's not a huge to say the united of all the wanted man to say well. What's wrong with attack in manchester united and the end you yourself. If you're chelsea you made mistakes and you expose yourself and you expose your own frailties at the back and those are things that he's going to have to deal with but to say that he was naive naive because he didn't play players who were injured. That's ridiculous because he has no information or access to any information suggesting that can take place six minutes. How does he know oh. How does he know that it's bringing in the conversation. And what do you make of this well. I think he's right that that chelsea team out there did look a bit inexperienced and a bit callow but that wasn't frank lampard's vote as the guys have been saying only he knows from the inside who's fit to start the game. He could have started content. Context content might only have lasted half an hour then. You'd have looked a bit stupid wouldn't he. So it wasn't the best players available. I think the player they really miss is ruediger ruediger at the moment <hes> the back really experienced and fit conti who could have started became. Maybe it would have been a a different kind of result if they'd been on the pitch and yeah chelsea was slick. Click in the first hour or so at the game. They were the better side but then they got over around and fell apart a bit. They might happen a few times if they have to play the youngsters a lot. It's a good sentiment to play. Youngsters and lots of people are pushing for and some of the big leagues because chances a few and far between however you know the sentiment oh go out the window when the crack style and ultimately all these young guys chelsea and low and some of them are dowd be last year. Some of them have been elsewhere folks. We're tommy abraham's have been a couple of times led the life of villa last year but ended day results sympathy for young is so you're not criticizing them. We're gonna go so far and then pod will ultimately probably have to go back to experience and that's why it's these guys said oh alone with the with the young guys leading ally in midfield against teams in the premier league. It's going to be tricky. This is your make a difference in this game not not particularly no or long for that matter so we're talking outside. Conde de other options that we're talking about. It's not guys is that have been first choice starters for any of the coaches and managers that have been with chelsea alonzo fell off the wagon and he hasn't been back in the starting line. I know and a new manager comes in and he has a choice to make and he makes the choice for with emerson's thinking. This is a guy that can give me something else that alone does not giving me. Those sir decisions that you make based on what you see is so you know what i'm gonna do. It's a good idea. I'm going to try to lose for nothing in the first game of the season. No look you put the players out there that you think you the best opportunity to win and the players that you have available to you for manchester united of course a very good start to their campaign couple of assists uh-huh well. He has a chance of the game just put to bed anymore speculation about him leaving the club he didn't he said on always good whenever i play football so i love it's my job. I give the maximum each time on a green pitch. Obviously there have been things said but any time it will tell the question remains however i i enjoy playing with my teammates and i always want to win. Every game question remains the key. Is this the question i'm staying. I don't want it to be you know a great great result yet. He hit a cutler great involvements in the goals so you know the time to look at is when united struggling and he's he's the lynch pin should be but clearly if the european clubs who can still get over the line come along then. It's gonna be interesting. I see one what unites response and to what hasn't his agents respond says before the end of the transfer window because clearly if the opportunity arose to a real madrid or wherever everybody seems to be going on at the moment then i'm sure to jump at the chance but you can just say no condi every club can say yeah yeah i know but then that puts a whole thing's about why even why why is even saying this why even the question remains when he knows the club basically in the end surely has to to make that decision and they know their decision will be known well. It wasn't known romolo the kaku right at the end caucus pct but he's he's playing <hes> a- an important possession yeah i don't. I don't forsee united sailing. No i don't see how he's he's not gonna go. In is even real madrid come in with that big offer he of course wants to go but united this stage con can't do it. Can they not really because they haven't replaced dander harare which is a bit of a mystery. They didn't go and get a midfield player. I think they should have really broken the bank to get bruno. Fernandes finance is a fantastic player. I think in portugal and he never got to move anywhere in the end. I think he was exactly the kind of plants just united needed in there but but going back to polk but no i don't think they can let him go and less they get through the roof offer from real madrid that is just too good to refuse bearing how much they paid for him. I don't think that's going to happen now. Because united can't replace him. I mean look who was alongside him yesterday in the midfield mc tommy pereira to to youngster so how bad with the cupboard be without pope in that midfield now. Don't you just say no. That's that's what i was about to address. If you report honestly i have to imagine that his agents in his ear and don't close the door now. Don't close the door to leave it open because anything can can happen from here until leonova transfer win. If you pull poke and you really love playing with your teammates and you join your time to say united within stop flirting around with everybody the else stay with to say you know here. I'm here and this is where i wanna be and this is what i want to be with. My teammates and we wanna make a difference. That's close the door instead head. You say that question remains and if you're a fan of montecito if you're a teammate of my idea if you are within the border montesano you'll well. What does this guy up to. What are we supposed to do with him. I was opposed to support him while he is flirting around with everybody else except us. I don't think it's a good message saying i'm just saying let me just flip. I was just looking at my a foreign bank accounts reminding myself over because whereas losing united putting is put some early pressure on in the modern which we lost. It's it's really against when i look at for example the next three lasta at norwich sheffield united oh poor results in those games and it's going to get he's not going to get solved but that's the kind of games you know less than a very good site go we can but we know brennan good monitoring. We know this is in good players that a good site and then you've got the teams are going to struggle that came out now. If you start to put performance performance in losses against them that's when it really hits home when you can pick yourself what from an opening day man united united or not a great save but these games coming coming up against the average two teams in the premier league. If you're struggling if you don't get the ones against them then you really put yourself on the pressure and of course the chelsea supercop next taken on live mid week. We know that alison will be out of a game you can trump some of the earlier details we heard about allison's injury the liverpool coach coming out and saying i don't want to make an exact prognosis on when it will be back is already like six weeks and stuff like this but allison awesome was not a law injured in his career so i'd like to wait a little bit to see how he develops in that process now but he's not in for the next few weeks we we just reminding what's coming up. Live wasn't mentioned chelsea saint. Mary's also anfield burnley new costs not too bad for liverpool considering who they could be. Thank is still going to be interesting. How on with andrea now coming in of course turnpike's honest technology truth brought to you by geico truth. Teenagers can communicate entirely emojis how why bob birthday party pizza slice kitten soccer ball pineapple truth. It's so easy to switch and save on car insurance at geiko dot com. What are you talking about. Paperclips shoulder shrug high five wizard hat. What geico fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more if you haven't seen the week yet moose checking over on our youtube channel to see pizza walter in their waffling away away and speaking of officials our of course introduce this weekend the premier league the first line. Everyone loves it from some people including new sand so the wolves coach causing his goal disallowed that neonatal draw. Let's not ruin the game. We have such a nice primarily product. We cannot lose it. Lavar decision that took a minute and thirty eight seconds the disallowed the goal it's too long and then after that the fans of less than with all my respect they celebrate known go. That's not the mindset of the game. Meanwhile say maybe maybe the intensity and passion will leave. It's gonna change the dynamic not just for the team but also for the spectators danny murphy really the former in england liverpool midfielder <hes> <hes> do we really want to see goals disallowed for an side. That's an armpit ahead of another bit by four millimeters sterling goal that was allowed later that was muted celebrations. You you can see was thinking. Is this going to get taken away and the man city fans were clapping. It was like applause at the end of the ballet. Danny goes to a lot on in golfing while turns the twitter thing shorting. The assigned law needs to be tweaked to klay a daylight. Yes they will tiny margins but at the moment it's always down to whether a playa signs ten or eleven boots. I'm more interested in we'll we'll darkish thunder and not to be standing running in that picture in the san sierra. That's what i'm going to go. Yes outside the san siro helping ian. How would you down sized ten and a half in between the join somebody. I think he's you you know with the off sides. I think it's kind of crazy that we're drawing lines <hes> trying to find out where the shoulder is another parts of the body to determine its offside. If if we guarantee they're going to be small margin still but let's make a player properly offside clear daylight. I know people argue. Whether this clear daylight still there'll always be arguments is football but i think as it is. What we've lost is when a play was about level. The benefit of the doubt was always supposed to go go to the attacking team. It isn't anymore after the week new debate about but i didn't think it'd be off signed because everyone thought out because it's offs is going to be one one a bunch of going to see them been taken away in straitjackets shopping via. We are just joining that was a classic from the georgia last find celebrated the golden chopped off. Oh what am. I supposed to be disappointing rose set off on them. Donna murphy he's another one. He's got an opinion off your team of plane and they lost a late goal in a cup final. Something and there was a shoulder offsite have lost my voice yeah. He'd want simplisafe so our great believer in off site is offsite eight the reason we are as estiteh the up these smaller margins. That's the whole point of it to me is the two smaller margin. I suppose that's the argument is that people but what's too small so i'm gonna use a size eleven or a size ten well. Having having a sized eleven may make the difference and you tapping the ball into the net and scoring a goal because you have a bigger foot so that's how small the margins are so if it's useful useful for you to make a difference and be able to score a goal they need to also useful for you to gain an advantage and being an offside position that may just be a different use corn goal. Which intern is what happened with the city so i would ask was it called correct and yes. It is so in the world. Are we complaining about are we just you'll find reasons to complain. Where are the calls correct. Yes is that what v._r. Is therefore yes. What are we wanted about ins winding well as i said yesterday i think the i think the key issue here is there is an issue with this there are going to be teething problems and that is the dilution of the drama armor because pep guardiola was right when he said it is a bit of a passion killer but alleys right the decisions were right. Everything was right. I counted up the number of tricks in all the premier league games of the weekend that were forty. Checks are not three decisions overturned in the newcastle last game that was not a single check or a single all over turn decision by and large it worked pretty smoothly. The only place it didn't the only two places where west ham and the wolves leicester game but as ali said that was the right decision to disallow that goal under the current guidelines that wolves scored in inverted commas so this is here to stay is no keep arguing hearing about it well. I know you're making a good point not leave out tweet taken as i said yesterday in the show and i'm going to repeat myself here. The biggest problem to football globally particularly taking europe into a two point view as the diluting of the game is the elite club smashing the other clubs. There's no drama and mindset beaten west ham in london now and then there's the odd via decision. You know what i mean. It's not diluting any drama because there's no drama no drama my love appeal beaten nor city falls you know when it comes down to head-to-heads with you know we think is going to be eleven and set them then. There might be some key decisions the help these very very games but when you see events winning leagues embalm unit when leagues and p._s._g. In leagues and then the dominance of mindset recently far talk similarly out ahead in england then avenue a few cold as the least of in my opinion is the least of the issues that's not the biggest problem is as a lock of competitive edge and a lot of the league's beneath the top two or three. That's more important to me than morning about actually getting a decision craig because as you said it took a minute tailgate shakings while and it's a problem is paranoid pittsburgh by this show a and in the we're not going to mention probably today manchester city liverpool bowl despite how impressive and how great victories were because we take it for granted now. Well we do yeah. Manchester city's win was more impressive recive than liverpool's because of ignored actually carved out quite a few chances at unfolded. I think the liverpool defence is looking that great the moment but <hes> that's aside should just going going back to the v._a. To craig's point. I wasn't tweeting that i disagreed with introduction. I was arguing that maybe they should look. Maybe at a change the offside law. I saw the tweet and you said you hate. I need to dan the past role just united they're gonna win. The title i saw it. All the guy jos podcast drops today. The latest episode did not from the elps. Don't know i know they're talking about name. Oh and his feature of pull some interesting developments today be sure to download and if you want mall gavin let's face it who would monday multi musings are out today if you haven't done so yet be sure to subscribe to our youtube page plenty of content over. I'm an eugene joy. Meanwhile even paris which is after byron munich of course fouls on getting leroy santa after he picks up an injury instead. They locked the perez. He's on a medical. He will be on his way to the bundesliga which we'll see one with dortmund back back in two thousand twelve european window is opened for the rest of the month and to keep you up to date with the latest goings on you can check our transfer talk page over on the website. If you haven't mrs show you can download our dany. Pokhara says well which is also available at e._s._p._n. A._f._c. dot com. This reminded extra time is available on our youtube channel tonight. Voice talk about advice. They give to young professional footballers put good. Check it out. Meanwhile wesley schneider confirmed he's retired client. Today from football completely eased some career as of course winning the champions league back in twenty league or visit syria <hes> as well fantastic international career a key part of that side that made it to the two thousand ten world cup final meanwhile. I know you love a birthday craig celebrate. Mario ballot tallies birthday today. He is twenty nine years of age and he's a free agent in in. It's a bit bonkers. There's named mary ballad sally so much so much excitement so many glimpses of something special from him but in the end. It looks like it's going to all go to waste. It looks like it might all end in tears is kind of sad isn't it because he was given a lot of talent. I wonder when he gets about fifty years of age. Whether <hes> he'll be sitting back and thinking you know. I could have done a whole lot more with my career than i did but you know. I don't know i mean he's. He's an offbeat character charisma. He may be perfectly happy with the way that everything's worked for him. So almost a youngster sets for a few years when he was a fabulous talent on the rebel to have records and the end just how the novum and he's i mean he's had he extol done some good things in his career yeah but it could have been so much better talent was just in-between the is just seems to be the issue and that's just as important because i don't care how good you are when at twenty nine years old and you a free agent and people are staying away from you because they want nothing to do with that world class town that you have simply simply because between the years you have what can i say a personality that simply at no point was pliable enough enough to say you know what i'm gonna be part of the structure of a team. I'm going to be enough of a teammate and enough of a professional that all i have to do is it's show up on the field. Do my job display my town score my goals and go home and be happy that wasn't enough for daily and he himself has been his his own enemy in his career and at twenty nine he should be producing for a team should be scoring goals for a team not being out and about as a free agent walk walk infant. Lets exactly this show. Run came back tomorrow. It's goodbye extra time. We're going out tonight for dinner. Who can let's get this impossibly aroo or any trying on wh what steve is gonna whack military normally like she's over coal as someone needs to rise address them before he goes things are gonna make it tonight. Goodness writes good question assault with that. What is the one thing you wish you were told before becoming a professional athlete and what's the one thing that you think the average fan does not understand about being a professional athlete so one bit of advice. Did you give it to the younger players before. I <hes> i'm going to say it's not intriguing. One advice it younger guys node you to look after your body of read that we didn't we didn't have all the checks and stuff and it had caught blinds basically not going booze and trump annual amongst margaret goes in whatever stevie deaden abundant. This is continued and keeps going so i would say affected. When did you retire thirty one yeah. There's no doubt alcohol consumption for example on the nineties in particular in the u._k. The eight hundred nineties late nineties was very it was very prevalent for a team team bogged by going yeah and and as has been scientifically scientifically proved stuff at makes more difficult for muscle injuries to repeal themselves in he'll and so basically your service so you should play off either been today i i would say when when kids are coming up right and those that have the talent to make it all the way through when they're younger. They're much better than everybody else us and and they're told by their parents and everybody else around them that you're so great. You're awesome. You're the best you're fantastic to me yet. We love you tim. Duncan don't come to me yeah. Go on to me at some point. Somebody's gotta grab timmy instead. You can work on this. You can work this. You can work on that as good as do. You think you are there. Are somebody else right now. Who's working and you're not by that in itself is a message that has to be prevalent for all younger players. Also there was the second question would you don't understand about being a professional athlete that is not though saturday people. They see your show over the game while he's ready to go enor- for you to do that. There's a lot that goes into it and a lot of sacrifice and people may not quite appreciate that because they just show up. They got the popcorn big nachos. Hey we're ready to go. They should be ready to go as well and it's a lot of a physical and emotional sacrifice of ready to go the week yeah. That's the point. I was going intimate. You know what finds don't see is the preparation. I don't mean just training. I mean i've seen myself included loads of guys who spent <hes> and two or three days before a game ivan feser jumping the bach and what you know there was one game <hes> the played in scotland. I actually didn't go out for the warm up because my bike steph and brian scott the federal and the doctor will still telling me right up until the bill. I go out <hes>. That was an extreme case but you know guys. Let all these top players message and renault wasn't all that you know not the mole but all of these guys are taking injections alligator. Don't mean like eagle jackson. Nominee j not loss optionally so much goes on behind the scenes before you get on. Let's see the back room and there's a doctor and yeah there's a guy with a with a needle and you're not asking the question. Is this good for me. Is this is this is what i need. Eat in order to be able to go out and play while the fans expect you to perform at a certain level and you expect to perform certain level and you know you're not physically physically but you know he's your responsibility to what is your pre game routine similar in a couple of injections uh-huh just usually <hes> lost a lot of quite boring notes to be honest with you that amaury craig craig craig good have played longer longer but he'd have had a whole lot less fun yeah. That's very true yeah. We're good time not only the players in that the players in the past. I i think probably had a much much more on around the game. Obviously these days it's <hes> it's all a little bit strict and everything's a little bit how medically sealed what does before games particularly ones done in houston of what's he thinking back into the ones around the time where the story of the men london mix six. Oh yeah it makes references jordan. Is that right. Yes i did make one or two. I think it upset craig. I got the moon landing stuff seventeen release gone so <hes> i said at the time it's just as well somebody could armstrong wasn't playing in the game <hes> school stat liftoffs and everything he was giving a few extra million to land delinked but they can mm commit half a billion to bring back neymar the guy who left so he could write his own story away from messy shadow really to what the question <hes>. Why are they so heavily what they should to be honest with you. I don't i don't think if you're barcelona you wanna go backpack and what it may do financially against you in the future so far more fiscally responsible and and if you cannot drive the price down then forget it we move on behalf does miss the burly approve of scott tommy as a defensive midfielder. Tell mr burleigh might interfere with your teacher. Young boys squad john's. I watched them. That's no easy to stay there. Shoot robson was a schoolteacher one. Imagine imagine muzzy yeah. Oh a noisy rosie walking wingback. There's a lot of money talk. You'll most heated game. You've ever called doc advance notice of of this one and not have to go back to january two thousand five <hes> the all snow manchester united game the latest and a lot of very heated ones remember that day when vieira and roy keane were going outta hammering tongs in the tunnel even even before the teams had come out and graham paul had to shout out that's enough without ho night light the blue touch paper the whole night long it was a really combustible stable night and it was a great game as well united won it four to but there are a lotta games like that between united and also i did that piece a game as well pizza gate game this martin keown which came was that was that the two thousand five one in vanished penalty and the jumping up yeah that's ri- i and then and then yeah martin keown the other ass no plaza came around taking the mickey out of him and taunting him and it all kicked up afterwards as well. Have you done a very good podcast. No it's not goblin jobs now. I deny what's it about books really told him this. When assam mentions not know let them know liftoff or landing. What's the name of the podcast wasn't in a well. It's whoa i used to do some boxing commentary as well so one of the guys. I used to be around at the same time chris dickson. <hes> did a focus the cozy boxing life stories don't do a lot of fighters. There's an just reminiscing about a few fights. I covered with him so if people wanna listen to that if they honest spare hour or two yeah it was for another but the stories ah ups kidney stories unbelievable heison and ali and you know honestly i knew that anyway because that's what i listened to it a- <hes> if you could you might fall asleep after half an hour but i've elissa. I know they listen to you so bold on the flight that was good. Two thousand three vanish arrived just being told her own all right <hes>. This one is for craig. Did you hear of curses on the field. When you play anything that wasn't cursing the field we do sorry what does it say. Did you hear of curses on the field here. Come from the referees. I mean the language i ah imagine it's changed the language in the fields very bad very bad and the tunnel before game but it's also it's amazing how creative you get with the bad language while you're on the how you bring things together and tie it all up and it all don't make sense or put it one way right referee all used to talk to the referees we played at church one got to the hotel and remember mark halsey correct about how refereeing and he's in the hotel so the bus pulls up on the friday night week off and we get to check in and how she's she's checking unannounced went all right mark anyway. 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Caught Offside: Man City-Liverpool and everything else

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Caught Offside: Man City-Liverpool and everything else

"Caught offside with Andrew gummy and JJ Davani. Paul side from the Upper West side of Manhattan, Andrew Golding and J J. What's up brother spent a long day? Oh boy. Serious tone. Nah, not really just a bit flat after that. Okay. I understand that. Yeah. Yeah. You're gonna be alright you can be able to get through this. Thank thought at the for menial equalizer. I felt good and felt good about where liberal Liverpool rat. But it was also where that city were playing with an intensity in a. I don't know the city paid very well unsorted. I don't think ever put very badly. And that's where you're like. No. It seemed like it was a genuinely good game like a fun game. There was a lot of action to like it was played at a pretty high level. I would say, and like you said you got that from, you know, equalizer, but ultimately it all led to this stunning. Spike. Brilliant. Wasn't it? One was your final Manchester City jumped back into second place Liverpool still four points out ahead. And I think that's kind of what you I would say this to all Liverpool fans that you do have to remind yourself. I know that that's a gut wrenching loss because of the a the way that it went down. And we'll talk about some of the specifics of that. And be I know you disagreed with this when I said to you before the game. But I truly believe that if Liverpool had won today. And maybe even if they had gotten a draw the league, it was over that they had that they could have essentially wrapped up the league in my mind today on January third. Yeah. And they have not right now, they have not, and they have allowed Manchester City some life, and you know, so I can understand obviously, why a Liverpool fan would be, you know, pretty crushed at kind of missing out on that opportunity. But. You have to remind yourself is. Manchester City included there's not a club in that league. That would not trade places with Liverpool right now. No obstinately. And and that's the way to look at it. I guess it's just you're so wrapped up in the. As a fine you start. I couldn't look beyond people were telling me, oh, we've got this good rolling games. After city. We've got you know, where were we should pick a points, etc. Etc. And I'm like, yeah. But we've just lost the city. You know, I was so focused on this game. I mean from halftime against because because the game was was such a a wash your already thinking ahead and. Yeah. It's just it just feels so flat now, and like I said in the context of the game. It was a little bit over him back. I actually I actually thought Liverpool. They weathered the early storm of city, particularly well, say storm sit he didn't create a tone early on. Although I thought they started the brighter the two teams and then Liverpool high by chance that incredible manage where it hits the poorest comes back. Johnstone's rattles. It off Edwardson on it. Somehow doesn't cross the line. And then I think city dominated probably the last ten to twelve minutes of the half and score. And then you're worried because city commode the traps hot in the in the second half. And then you get a brilliant acquaint brilliant equaliser on you're like, oh here we go. This is what we've been seen from Liverpool, and it just never really kicked on as good. As Saez goal was. I couldn't believe the acres. He found himself in. I'm like is anyone getting across inaugurum is an excellent Ron to kinda pull Trent Alexander Arnold away. I'm looking at Manny Manny doesn't get back on his nowhere near getting back to covert. And I'm just. Yeah. Especially to we talk all the time about American football. People always say a game of inches game. Ventures at such a cliche. Has that ever applied more to anything than this Liverpool? Manchester City match today when you talk about I mean inches. That's not even doing Justice centimeters millimeters away from scoring that goal. Like, you talked about the Johnstone's Edison. I think it was in. I Liverpool would've had deservedly had the lead. And I think that it would be interesting to see ho ho city would've reacted now. Haunted city react to the equalizing goal excellently. And I think the death principles of we talked about before it, no really did come to the fore. I you can talk about the tactical. Approach of city, which I thought was very good. They kept the two fullbacks of Liverpool occupied on Starling against Robertson, really gave Robertson something to do going. The other way he wasn't allowed to marauder forward as much as he would have liked that was really good from pep Guardiola. And I thought you know, there were good innovations by bolt managers in the game. But the real thing was that city. A did not allow Liverpool the intensity day grabbed and sees the intensity straight off the early opening tackle by furniture, new on Robertson was a case in point. He's gone right through. He's a heavy, touch and he's gone right through. And he's left America on Fernan Dina was excellent hundred. He was really great. He reminded me Roy Keane in that game. Not as hyper as he dominated that game. He drove city forward. He won't. He won the the ball back in several occasions. I'm with broke up play. Was excellent and sit he did what I wasn't sure they could do under guava your which was it's not just about pressing or closing players down. But that aggressive turnovers that Liverpool was almost the Mark of Liverpool against them not season. They didn't allow over to do it in this game. And that was crucial. Yeah. By the way, going back to that opening near goal for Liverpool. The one that stones managed to clear off the line. I know this is not the moment you wanna hear this. But I was as I was watching that. And when they showed the actual zoom in that they do of the ball of like just how close it was to not fully going over the line. I was just looking at that and thinking like in in this world of like sporting innovations. Like is there anything that has been more beneficial to a sport than the goal line technology in this sport, nothing because I'm sure that would have been given. I'm sure. Passed. It would have been given like and not just the fact that its accuracy is basically like without question. Like, nobody questions the accuracy of those calls ever. But it the instantaneous nature of it. You know, on very seamless isn't doesn't affect how far I am. But I understand it like it can cause that's my whole point about that. It can it can cause a disturbance in a game, basically until we can get the tech to that level on the money issues with fire off and to me, the the the two sporting innovations, and I think it's the goal line technology and soccer and like television in America, finally, putting the first down line in on television. However, many years ago that was to show you where the like those two things are the things I always think of like how do we live without a world without this? I mean, I was just so like to see how close that was and then talking about game of inches. Let's talk about both the goals that Manchester City scored you get one from Sergio Aguayo where he just blasted through the most imposs-. Of angles right near post impo kinda like between Allison's hand. And the the post the second goal Sunday off the inside of the far post. It was just like goals goals that I would imagine for a Liverpool fan to watch. That is just like oh my God. These goals that they're scoring against us. Yeah. I know what you're saying. I don't think it really was. I think that the object of IRA and a focus was DeJean Lovran on the city goal because don't forget Alison made a brilliant eve prior to that ball flying past him and city were knocking on the door. What happened in boats in IRAs? Firstly Lavin was random the line. He pulled out, and it was a wound V one tank fully Alison made the save. And then the bulls recyc- of the comes out, and it comes back in again and grow Golson front of Lovran. And he doesn't react. Are. He doesn't get across. 'cause Andrew honestly when Lovran is getting that bold there. That's where you don't tackle. But you have to get a block in unlock room was nowhere close to him. I saw him one of the match reports. You know, I know sometimes these rankings are different. But a couple of them. I think I saw they gave him love and three out of ten and it was his it was his misplaced head or on the breakaway to believe for sterling. I guess this would be a moment where I would make fun of him for having called himself the best defender in the world. But you know, what I'm going to be the bigger man today. I'm not gonna mention that. He said that and we're gonna move on. I also think the full box. Fullbacks on the Santa goal. Okay. Maybe maybe not on the Senegal certainly on the goal Liverpool. Got stretched and the last thing you wanted was for DeJean Lovran to be in direct opposition to Sergio Aguayo or anyone really you. You wanted that? Nice tight and compact. It's been above masking Lovran since Gomez is being gone. On. Yeah. And I don't mean that in disrespectful way, but it has been kissed because he's not an actual partner for versa Van Dyke. And look even at the Aristotle game. One thing that was crucial for for for Liverpool. Today was this. When city pressed you need, your floated bowl into the midfield earn to that area. Behind the press to be really accurate the arsenal goal. At onfield came from Lovran giving the ball away like that on. I never felt that either defensively in terms of actual straight up won't be one defending Lovran was going to be up to it tonight on I worried about his passing out of the back to create opportunities to get down to feet. And if you look at it Andrew the monta times that the Liverpool bowl bulls from the goalkeeper, I must admit his kicking wasn't great either. But from Lovran to break that press, you know, what I'm talking about. Yeah. Absolutely. Clipped ball over the top. Right. It's gotta be good. And it never was the amazing thing you talk about Liverpool's defending, and I don't want to sit here and bash it overall, we can talk about days on Lovin, but JJ I was just thinking about this. So they gave up two goals tonight to Manchester City in this two one loss do even remember the last time Liverpool gave up more than one goal in a game. It was last season wasn't it. Well, no in on this entire no in in the league. You might be right about here. Okay. Well, because I well overall it was PS g who beat them two one in November in the champion. Yeah. I mean this Liverpool defense it's why they're in the position that they're in. There were the questions about it last season than they brought in virtual Van Dyke and Joe Gomez asserted himself in Alexander Arnold asserted himself, and you're left with this team that still has potent offensive attack. But you couple that with what they bring defensively plus Allison, and it's why they are top of the table by four points. But you're right. If you start removing pieces from that Van Dyke can only do so much right on obviously, the midfield. Three of Milner Henderson. I'm when al-din was picked to be a little bit more conservative because he had more offensive options in that. And he didn't choose to use them. And I I was hoping that they would do more to cover the full box train screen dot. The center half position. But didn't really work out that way, we thought it was interesting. What pep Guardiola said after this match there were people. You know, I said before that I thought this was basically titled decider and it Nate Liverpool may still go on to win the title. I think if you looked at it right now, they probably would still be your odds on favorites to do. So. But this felt like that was it. And there were people yourself included said, no, no, no, no. You can't say that. There's still eighteen more games to play but pep himself said after this match that Manchester City treated this as though it was a Cup final. You could tell. Yeah. The way they flew into challenges. How many times were their taxes in the last ditch? I think it was three off the line clearances by city debt. I mean that was that was serious commitment. Although with one of them Anderson comes for a free cake. I I honestly the goal. Keeping tonight from Anderson was I I thought at some stage he's going to do something. And we're going to we're going to capitalize on it. Andrew across goes into the box. He will. He reminds me of Bruce Grobbelaar back in the day. He'll come for Bali's. No right to get to one of those felt for manual somehow cleared off the line, but cities commitment was huge. I've actually made a note here fifty five minutes indicative of city play. I'm reading what you wrote in your notes yet fifty five minutes indicative of city play silo who's broken away on the right hand side of the Manchester City penalty box surrounded on it was LeRoy Saini who wins it back. There was heck of a lot of work on. There was an awful lot of. I'm sure peps guys guys guys talks were really intense, and he pretty much. Got this team into a state of mind where they knew they couldn't lose. And you're starting to once again, see the thing that we talked about with Manchester City before the season that hasn't quite emerged yet this year, but maybe it starting to their death. I think Kevin LeBron's did not play in this game. Riyadh Mars did not play in this game. Walker who one of the most expensive fullbacks in the league did not or came on as a sub in this game Gunderson came on as a sub in this game. Like Gabriel j Zeus did not play in this game. You're starting to kind of remind yourself that they've spent millions and millions and millions across the whole every position, right? Yeah. Which is funny because we talked about last week how? But then when Fernan Dino misses a match it's like there are different side day couldn't won that game tonight without him. Yeah. I think you're right. I really don't think they could have he was he was. Excellent. Now, I should say company was was good. Generally. Speaking company was good tonight. But I think companies career. I mean he had to come off. He was he he'd stiffened up so much struggling with that calf. You've got to wonder and his tackle you should've seen red for the tackle in my opinion on Sada. And that was all because they did not he could have no part of being in a leg Rhys leg wrist, but Mohammadzadeh on he he basically admitted as much he had two options go to ground and trying to open the mind and get the ball or do something. Otherwise, Sada was straighten and gold, and I have to greet your Klopp on that one is not me being biased in the modern game. You can attack like that munching to foot of challenge. Can't do it. Yeah. If they had given it. I'm sure I'm sure pep would a lost his mind. Well, he did. But yeah, I don't I don't think I would have really sat there and said what is the ref thinking he's gotten that completely wrong. I think I think you'd have to understand why something like that would have been ultimately given. Yeah. So we have a total race. We certainly do, sir. We absolutely do. There will be an interlude for the magic of the FA copen, by the way, you have to bring that noise back where it is. You're gonna have to find that. Right. Relax when you do what to watch for. It's being demanded already by who man from southern California who a man from southern California name the name. Rob you made that up. No, all right. Well, find really. Sent a tweet demanding it also showing Ronnie Radford's amazing goal for Hereford United really versus Newcastle. Right. Well, you know what? Now, I believe you, and I will go back, and I will look for it. But yes, we have a tight race. And everybody seems happy about that. Except me. Well, yeah. I mean, like I said you thought you could have won the league today. I wouldn't expect any Liverpool fan to feel happy about it. But you always talk about it's been twenty nine years. And here you are in pole position well past the halfway Mark of the season. I was gonna ask you another question before we move on from this. Where was I? Oh, Paul Merson. I was reading this at Sky Sports Merce. I what is mercy. So here's what Mirsaid I actually have the exact quote in front of me this now this is before Liverpool man city. I read this yesterday. He says this quote if I was Liverpool. I would forget about the Champions League. Now, they have a chance of making history where they would all go down as legends after twenty nine years. They need to put all their eggs in one basket being winning the league. Where do you stand on that? As a Liverpool fan is Gary Neville said that at the start of the season as well. Yeah. I don't know about that. I don't know about it from the point of view of the way Klopp and pep Guardiola. Do approach a lot of things. Now. Do I think there will be players dropped for the FA Cup for sure. But in terms of the Champions League like is can you turn it on and off like that? Can you just decide while we're not gonna play tonight or I'm going to drop players that I don't think you guys don't go all out. Right. You make the decision for them by giving some of your key player. I rest I can't see that. I can't see I can't see Liverpool going out against spare Munich, and no they just I can't see it happening. I don't think it's. I don't think it'd be acceptable at that stage of European competition to play that way as well. Right at this stage. I mean, look what happened to Brendan Rodgers when he wrested players at the about that was so wrong that was so wrong. What was also wrong was that? It was definitely Stevie. Jeez. Final night at the burn abo-, and he was on the bench. So you would. 'cause I I read that. And I thought that is first of all I thought it was selling Liverpool's quality short a. Yeah. I don't like the message it sends to players either. And also the association the club has with with competition with visas in Europe, they've won it more times than any other English club there. It's I don't think the fans would like it. Well, I thought you'd be a little down today. And understandably so, but if I can lift your spirits my holiday gift for you has arrived. I have it with me. Wow. Would you like it? Yeah. Oh god. I hope it's not another crushing disappointment on a day of crushing disappointment might. It's not exactly what I pictured. When I ordered it. Oh here. Let me get all right because I'm tacky lazy to sort of. I don't I don't go for the wrapping. No, if the gift bag, you already just showed you showed me a picture of the gift, and by the way, where is my time in in my wardrobe walked today said so if you warn the sweatshirt yet, I said, it'd be hard to do that considering you haven't given it to me so much has happened in the intervening weeks. All right. So here Lord. Yeah. It's a fictious framed of your of your home. Oh, wow. A framed it's like an old school map of sly go. That's actually really night you like it. All right. Why Lord it's even the old scoots spelling l'aigle? Yeah. With the with the at the end, there's kalani the own beg river Tober curry. I'm where I'm from his on it a Connery. Yeah. And it's got even got mountain and lake maps. This is actually really good. All right. Good. I'm glad I wasn't. Sure. Oh, this is soccer. And you and I really don't have anything else to talk about or share in our lives such a dole. We talk about so many different things even on this podcast kidding point. Yeah. No. This is really good. I'm relieved in a scroll kill glass, while these are all places very much. You're welcome to tweet out a picture of this. Yeah. It's quite I'm glad that that it turned out good. This is hanging up you can prop it up like that. Whatever you want. No. This is really good stuff. That's grit. You feel better. I feel good. Can I can? I just read you what I wrote in my match notes. Jay's is much notes goal. TA Robertson for menial. And then I tweeted straightaway that I haven't felt that good longtime on the worst of joy where did you watch? This. I watched in my office in my cave. It was one of those if I was in a bar anywhere near to anybody would have been how much work was achieved. From roughly three o'clock, the five o'clock eastern time in your office. Huge Mon for the podcast, Hugh. Okay. But it was burst of joy. Yeah. Oh, it lifted me. I don't want moments. We live four those feeling. Yeah. And I don't want to bring it to the bedroom. But I you know, when people say I'm not that mean that was going around. I'm not saying it's better than sex. But I mean, it's different. Obviously, very with that rush dot feeding. Oh, primal, I don't know where coast with every sports fan is felt that at some point. Yeah. Don't worry. You'll feel it again. I know anyway. Yeah. So that's our look at what was the only game of the day. Really? I know there were other games in other leagues. But that's the one we were gonna focus on. I'll tell you what we're gonna take a quick break. When we come back the festive period is now over so we're going to look back in kind of a sign are three winters three losers. Each of us have given to this like crazy time of the Premier League calendar. So we'll do that. Also. Of course, we do have to mention Christian pulisic, there's a reason we haven't talked about that very much up to this point in the podcast. We'll tell you why that is well still plenty to do. Don't go anywhere. It's time. But boy wonder why Christian? Really? Yeah. He really is wonder what point JJ thing about he's twenty years old now, he's almost a man boy wonder watch at some point I think has to transform into young adult wonder watch. It's monica. Therefore, he'll be boy wonder when he seventy only going to show are still being described as the baby fist assassin because he has a baby face is no longer a boy. I if it man if my child had the face of all they're going to share his in his forties. I would be concerned for my child. I would say that child has weathered some. By now, obviously, all of you listening are well aware of the fact that Christian pulisic was sold from Bruce Dortmund to Chelsea for a record fee for an American player Seventy-three million dollars, which is among either the eighth most expensive transfer in primer league history, which puts in with some pretty amazing company. I need the most expensive substitute ever to be. Well, that does raise some interesting points. We're not gonna talk a ton about this. Because I don't know if you guys listening have seen it yet or not up on both are caught off side feed or the ESPN FC feed. But we had grant wall in with us here in studio at caught off site towers for an hour where we talked about almost anything. I think that you as an American soccer fan would be interested in chiefly among those things pupils transfer to Chelsea we talked with them almost I'd say almost half of the time was spent on that. So well, he's got grit insight into pulic having met him interviewed him several times extensive time with him. Yeah. Knows insight out, and we set the table we laid out the landscape for your soccer for twenty nine hundred with ground. Yeah. So I would not and I'm not just saying this because you wanna hide. Because it's our podcast. But honestly, if you're an American soccer fan, if if it was Joe schmo in and Pete Diddley that did the podcast. I would say you should probably as an American soccer fan. Listen to that. It's your Judy. Yeah. It really is. So check that out. Like, I said it's on both our feed the caught off side feed and the ESPN FC feet, but I did want to at least mention a couple of things on the move. I guess the overarching question that everyone has asked us about this is whether or not this is a good thing for him. Now, there's something I heard from Richie of sorry, which kind of caused me to raise an eyebrow. And wonder about that question. Here's what sorry said when he was asked about the transfer appeals coming to Chelsea are you looking to do business in January to bring some new faces in. Yeah. I do know I didn't know anything about Polisi yesterday. Declare basket. My opinion about him. About one month ago. My opinion the Moore's positive today. I knew I ever known that the deal is done. But I didn't know anything. That doesn't sound like I know he said, they asked me my opinion, in my opinion was positive. But I don't know. I I listen to that. I was like this doesn't sound like a man who's thrilled necessarily to have this guy on his team. No, an are that he had full. How would you say economy agency in this signing? No, it doesn't know. No, the modern game kind of operates at a different level. But it seems as if Chelsea are signing Pule sick. That's that make of him. What you will? Yeah. I would've thought you might get you know, some sort of sense of by the way, he wasn't asked about Pacific. That's what am I concerns as he Joel before that question? Six name was mentioned, I cut out. There was a lot of stuff leading up in that quest. Yeah. But he still asked are you doing anymore transfer in transfers in January, and he said, I didn't know in use us Pulitzer because the example of how he didn't know what would be doing. Which is it's important now, it's time at Chelsea football. So there's a lot of uncertainty and. Yeah. I I read that call and I thought okay. Well, this is a man who's just miniaturizing himself with English language. It sounds even worse when you hear them. It's important to point out that fuel sick as he is now property of Chelsea, but he will not be joining him. He was then promptly loaned right back to Bruce Dortmund on you'd hope he'll play. No. Well, I don't really know what what makes the most sense for Gyula set. Like, so what are Borussia Dortmund? What are their plans with this guy coming back there? Now like their plan is if if Sancho or somebody gets injured, I guess, he's an insurance policy. He's he's more. He's someone who can slot in knows the system and can play very well. And I'm sure that it not better for Christian him. Game. But Chelsea wanted what I had read about this was that Chelsea wanted pulic to join them. Now course he preferred to stay at Borussia Dortmund until until the summer, and I just wonder for him wouldn't it make more sense to like get in now. Even if you're not playing right away just to get a head start and get acclimated. So Andrew summer. You've you've already hit the ground running with slice. Anyway, you want. He may not be a regular starter in the team. He is still a useful piece in a team. That's in a championship. Raise is probably gonna win the championship while that's a big statement. He he'll want to be there. Probably what like I said. I don't wanna go to deeply into this. Because we spend a lot of time on our other podcasts today with grant wall talking about that. So make sure you download that. So we'll do our festive winners and losers. So let's do that. We've got from this period of chaos, basically where it feels like you're watching a big game every three days or you're watching your team play every three days. It's it's awesome for us. I sometimes wonder what players managers think about it. As other leagues are going on holiday breaks and things. That. So we've got our three winters three losers. Each of us from the festive period as they call it. We'll do our winters. I you wanna start. Yes. By the way, these aren't in any particular order in terms of just wound two and three. This is my number wound. Whatever you want. All right. All right. Well, because because I'm sure you were I thought we might be talking about Liverpool. I went in a different direction and rewind to last season. I'm sitting on my soul, and I'm watching with regularity Marcus rash for toiling white on the wing for Josie Marino. And I'm asking myself why? And it seems to be that rash. Verd- is one of the early beneficiaries of the Noma renewal era at Old Trafford playing center forward his proper position scoring three goals and assist. Under Oleg or Sasha are ready. Andrew I had key Twitter to bit not heated in, you know, a nice cordial yet back and forth with a couple of Man United. Finds not so long ago under Marino who were like, I don't think rash. I got it exer- what I'm like look aware. He's playing he's got to be in a central position. He's got to play as a striker. He is one of the most talented young despairs there. And he was one of the the main players United who suffered under Josie, marina. I remember him playing right cited midfield against via in the Champions League. Ole Gunnar soldier only had to do was be positive and put them interstate position on. I think rash has already been a winner on is going to go on unto right to the end of the season. Yeah. For my first one, I went a little more broadly than that. I just went with Manchester United as a whole, obviously, you know, we've talked about at length since social took over twelve points from four matches only one manager in Manchester. United history has won his first four matches in charge. Do you know who that was? It was not, sir. Alex Maputo's be. Let's right. He back in nineteen forty six. Not not the. Worst company for social to keep when he came in social he said he wanted the players to be able to express themselves out on the pitch the guy who just mentioned. I mean, does that has that apply to anyone more than Marcus rash ver-? It's it's been like night and day. It's so obvious. That's what's so frustrating. It seems like acts of self sabotage by Marino. Even what you're starting to see from Rome. Lulu Kaku to two goals in his last two games. He had to in his previous eleven appearances before that. And that's not including the matches that he just didn't play in whether it was through injury or whether it was through Marino just having no time for them. And then, of course, JJ there's really I mean, you talk about rash bird as a big winner. How are we not gonna mention Paul pasta? And what's happened within this renaissance that it seems like he's undergone Sincil shires come in. Yeah. I under Marino, you have to admit there were times when we were. I would think even the biggest pod fan was starting to wonder is pot. The really is. He is good as we thought. And I think now there was always that part of you that wondered is it PA. Or is it Marino. I think Pogue in these first four games to a certain extent, not fully. But he's kind of answering that question. I was you know, I was being held back. Look what I'm capable of doing. When you set me free with the four games his most recent against Newcastle. I would say was his least impressive. But that's that's a by the way, a comment. Well, four goals and three assists in these four-game exactly since oh shark came in. He was the team's player of the month for the month of December. Just what were we saying about pug? But during that Liverpool game when he couldn't get in off the bench under Marino. And now he's come in. And he's player the month for them. But even at so them away, he was sold bad. Like, he was a mixture of bad, and you really had that question. You said where you're like might like what did I see in the summer on? What did I see in flashes over last season? Like what where's the real Paul? Right. But I think we're starting to see him. So all right. You're number two winner on the twenty first. To November twenty eighteen Alastair. Mcgowan wrote a piece for the BBC with the headline gambling firms to review number of sports betting adverts after public concerns. It went on the remote gambling association whose members include three six five Labra, potty power and William Hill said it was very mindful of public concerns, and then another piece in it, which just threw me away in. This report was blew me away was on a further report Wednesday stated the number of children classes, having a gambling problem had quadruple to more than fifty thousand in just two years. Now Williams saying all these things Mike Christmas football. Andrew was utterly dominated on television by advertising for betting companies every ad break. Billboards on the sideline. Join games. I was exposed to the most incredible deluge of advertising of wounds specific form of product. I could not get over it. Even in the time since I've been home say last Christmas for the really busy Christmas period. It's gone. Even further. So who's the winner here? The winners gambling. There are losers everywhere. That's the very nature of gambling more losers than there are winners. But I'll tell you in football the advertising site if things is utterly dominated now by wound industry. I've never seen the like of it. Now nearly sixty percent of clubs in England's top two divisions. Have gambling companies undershirts? I wonder. With the new laws that are coming in in certain New York's days and in New Jersey what what's going to happen over here as well. Are we going to see the same kind of thing happened? I bet that we will. I mean, they're such a market for it. And yeah, I I'm sure I had to put this in shoehorn it in because I couldn't believe what I was watching my number two winner starts with a trivia question. JJ outside of the top six in the league. Just one club has more wins than losses and a positive goal differential. Do you know who that club is? No, I do not at Leicester City. That's less. There's less sit less. Does that they're the twenty fifteen twenty sixteen champions Voday in the last week and a half. They've beaten Everton Manchester City, and Chelsea sure they did lose to Cardiff. But I suppose those things happen. Pule needs to be sucked. Perpetually like, he's always justly lives on the hot seat, even when things are actually going pretty well for the club that he's in charge of Jamie, Varda's, two goals and an assist over those four games. In addition, some other some of the vets Vardi all Brighton, there's a young core that feels like it's starting to emerge now with this lesser team Madison McGuire show, well, Wilfred indeedy. I feel like is not a young player. He's like twenty two years old. I think he's he's still very young player. The challenge for them is going to be to keep these guys because you know, they're going to be in demand by the top six, by the way, the three wins that I mentioned they all had one thing in common, which is kind of a random thing. They were hums show. Juries only three league starts of the season. And I think I might have butchered his last name Chowdhry Chow. Yeah. That's right. He started out unless there's a kademi at age seven, and he's the first player of Bangladeshi descent ever to play in the Premier Li he's a in. He's played for the England under twenty's. I think. Yeah. Because he was born in England. But I think is mother is from Bangladesh, and that is huge because there is a huge Bangladesh, Pakistan, Pakistani population is well in England and these players from that part of the world are from that that area of of Asia don't really break the way through for some reason despite being such a big part of English life footballing kosher doesn't seem to seep in there. And so that is huge. So not a bad start to his time with the senior team in the league and your final winner. Ryan Fraser of born Muth. Christian Erickson, more, Sal. And the euro sign I have seven assists each season and hazard is joint top on nine with the board of man. The we Scott Ryan Fraser, a meteoric rise for the twenty four year old on his crazy think he left Aberdeen in the Scottish primarily to join borth when they were in league one. That's how far back he's being with them. We went on loan tips which little bit, but he registered his ninth assist in the three three draw with Waterford the vitality game on Tuesday. Yeah. His goal rescued a point form through how difficult Christmas that's fair. But Ryan Fraser continues and has continued over Christmas to be quite the player. Did you happen to see the post-match interview yet on that now? So first of all, yeah. What do you think of having one player of it? I'm one player from the opposition gets great joint interview. I love it. I think it's so his face was also it's for anybody who didn't see it. It's Troy Deeney and Ryan Fraser being interviewed together. So player from Waterford Anna player from born Muth and Troy easy. He does not hold back with Frazier right next to him. And he basically talks about how Wofford were jogged, and he says the referee bottled at today, and he just goes in on the referee and Fraser is stunned to hear a guy talking about the ref like this, and you just see his face his eyes bulge out of his head as Dini is slow. So he probably doesn't agree with this will probably not he's he's saying this guy is basically saying that we were lucky to get a point today. I wanna punch this guy in the it was I enjoy those. I feel like there's like a weird camaraderie slash tension with guys from each team standing next to each other. It's like different. But kind of I don't know. I like it. No, I like it too. Yeah. J J my last winter here kind of changing on the fly because I was expecting you to have Liverpool. But you didn't. But I feel like they need to be mentioned. So I have you and me as winners from this period. You first because Liverpool correct me if I'm wrong, but when the month of December started they were what was it two points back of Manchester City for top of the table. And now they find themselves four. Points up as we exit this period and head now into January. That's an amazing turnaround one that I think a lot of people didn't see coming. Not just not mean. And I mean that is a slight against Liverpool. I mean that has you know, Manchester City are who they are. And for Liverpool to take advantage in the way that they did of Manchester City dropping points in back to back matches. I think it's huge for them. And now like we said they are in pole position. This is now their league to lose whether you want to admit that or not, and then I put me in there as well. And I felt a little bit. We're doing it after the wolves match. But ultimately, I'm trying to keep some perspective here with Spurs. And I know people are saying oh Spurs Andy Spurs the Andy Spurs e Andy, but hear me out. That's what they're saying. In the month of December Tottenham achieve qualification to the round of sixteen of the Champions League. Getting a result in Barcelona reached the semi's of the League Cup by beating arsenal in north London. Darby and moved up from fifth to third in the table and possibly may be kinda sorta find themselves on the fringes of title race. Obviously, the disappointing gets wolves is hard to get past. But it's just not a club. That's going to win every game. They are going to lose against some teams that you think they should beat and wolves is a likely candidate knowing how wolves. Play against the top six. So you look at the bigger picture you see the positive results see upward momentum. You see them playing fun football. And so I say overall that game side, I I have really really enjoyed these last few weeks of them. So I think you and I came out of this. Winter's. Yeah. Where where the real winners here. What about the losers? Would you like to go first? Yeah. Sat down in New Year's day to watch Everton LeicesteR in what on paper to my mind, at least was tasty offering I was hung over. And so two it appeared where the twenty two men playing football. It was a dire game at times and Everton were virtually indistinguishable from the last days of Kumon and a performance devoid of creativity, our competence, and the competence is the big thing. No less, there, weren't grit. But when feel Walcott's misplaced had or was bumbled. I love that word. It's the only way to describe what Michael Cain. Did. I thought that was more on keen than Wolcott. Oh, andrew. Yes. Obviously, he should still. But it's a terrible header it was so much power on on that way. What's wrong? Which wasn't on purpose because it was right at Qian's feet and Keene. Just like then made a mess of it. There's no way that could have been a perfect many times. I was trying to determine if Wolcott meant to do that or not or he is extra corners in his head that it's just gone off at that angle. Bumbled by Michael Cain, Pereira points with variety through the score. You knew all you knew Andrew. There was little or no chance of Everton. Rescuing this one winning it for the Toffees since the crossbar tackle Jordan Pickford at Anfield. They were wretched and back back to fades away at Brighton on home to LeicesteR. No, it's not working out for me with Keenan Zuma at the bike. He dropped James Colman put in Jonjo Kenny that didn't work out. Andrew Goldman's got the curly finger whipped out of the game cigarettes as an owner ten not convinced by I don't think it's working out and Richarson looks looks jaded looks at it bit tired, and he needs to be more central instead of Dominic Calvert Lewin. Look it's early days. There were boos at full-time there. The evident fans aren't happy with what they're seeing. Silva deserves time, but they have spent money maybe not so much under seven but money. Well, yeah, actually money has been spent under him who was he really brought in that was with a really high price tag Bernard. Well, actually, I need to check on money money of those are loans, but you know, he has been able to bring in players, and I'm just not convinced with what I'm seeing on. No, I still like him. And I still like what he's trying to do there. And I think he's trying to figure out who he can move forward with. And who he has. No. Yeah. That's probably true too. But right now, it's not good. It's not going to watch. It was a it was a rough stretch for them. There's no question about it. My first loser JJ, basically for all of the opposite reasons that I gave for Mench. United success is Josie Marino, you know? It's like when. Sometimes you can learn a lot about somebody when he's no longer at a place like when Peyton Manning left the Indianapolis Colts. And they went like one in fifteen you're like, why always knew Peyton Manning was good. But oh my God. Like, he's he was really scary. Good look at what they are. Now, look at Manchester, the change in Manchester. United was just so profound from one day. He's there and their dire. The next gone and the really fun to watch and they're winning games. Like, it was nothing. So I felt like I had no choice but to put him on this. I mentioned rash before, you know, a young player promising playing for his country but being held back at club level by marina Marino Radford specifically, fourteen appearances under Marino, the season three goals and eleven shots on target ten fewer appearances he's had under sole Shire. Same number of goals. Just one fewer shot on target like you said he's a different player. Yes. I'm aware. It's been against Newcastle. Born Muth Huddersfield in Cardiff, but it's in by aggregate score that they've won a fourteen to three fourteen goals in four matches JJ scored fourteen goals Josie Marino's last night. Nine matches total in charge. Remember this club that lost a Brighton? They lost a west hand. They drew with wolves. They lost Darby county on penalties in the care about Cup. Barely got past Newcastle at home. You couldn't take anyone for granted when it was Marino's Manchester United. So the change has just been it's just been so dramatic. I have to make him. What am I lose IRS? Who's your next one? You though. Sometimes you just need Newcastle legend Alan Shearer to sound off on his club. And he makes them really interesting points in this for BBC radio five live. I was on field on books, and I looked at team then twenty as ago when Newcastle hot does classic games against Liverpool. The full three games, which everyone talks about looked at the midfield. And I looked at the full woods. Then you Lynn twenty years ago. How to five million pound player the bolt David Butti for around about five million pound then midfield is on field on books day. Hayden on which cost both cost of roundabout. Five million pound. I looked at the center for the day twenty years ago, they paid about six million pound the less food and on the had a six million pound fold on books in your Salou. So that sells you exactly when you cuss at all you hear that. And you're almost shocked to see them playing in the Premier League. Yep. You are and beneath his demeanor over Christmas has been pretty low. And he believes they'll be relegated. If they can't make changes in January. And there is very little faith the Mike Ashley would spend. You fans are writing to Ashley. On mass to ask them to please spend money because they know which way this is heading and their two points off Southampton in eighteenth. They've done amazingly. Well, because even where they are. I don't know, man. I worry for them. I can't believe he's that Benitez is still there. Yeah. Well, you know, what it's contracts Andrew has every right to see his out. But I think he made their heading for him. I'm saying I would've thought that he would have just either resigned. But I guess he wants to collect money. No. He is a commitment there because he's he's being taken to the bottom of that city, and he has done some escape artistry particularly last season. Yeah. But it's bad. It's really bad. Let's see my second. Loser. JJ is the arsenal. Lost the Southampton on December sixteenth then got eliminated from the League Cup on the nineteenth. Bounceback did beat Burnley three days later, but then drew with Brighton. And then got hammered by Liverpool before ending this period with a win over Fulham fans are getting restless there they booed. I am really other day when he subbed off Alexander Lakas that for Aaron Ramsey, and then you see what happened lock has gone on the fans he pointed to his head basically trying to signify to the fans they need to think before they do. So that was fine with the sub Ramsey came on. And then scored almost. Immediately. Meanwhile, missiles future seems uncertain now both Ozos team and Arsenal's team or arsenals management. Both say he's not going anywhere in January. But they're gonna meet during the summer and kind of assess what his future looks like is he knew Niamey's plans on a report three hundred fifty thousand a week. Yeah. My god. And he's sometimes he's not in the squad. He's on the bench. So right. You don't know when he's gonna play right now. He did come back for a couple of games. But now he's out again with a knee issue. I dunno it just for club. Like, you just think about where they were at the start of December in that for to win over Spurs and they're flying high. And you think about where they are now and amazing how much things can change not just like empirically, but just like morale how much it can all change so quickly. So that is why I do put them as one of my losers of the period and your final one wolves versus the teams day told you not to worry about wolves of eating Tottenham and Chelsea in December on Tuesday. They lost the Crystal Palace. And this is following a trend. They've also lost the season to crystal in Brighton. Now, there's no question. This team is a talented team. There's also no question that it is the fairly expensively assembled site. And that some of these players. Maybe have aspirated of playing against those high level teams that they do so well against but. I'm not gonna call it stats or anything because I watched it myself. So I know they lost Liverpool Mullah new before Christmas. But the chances they created the intensity with which they played with was notable until Liverpool pulled away with that second gold, and then watch them draw one with Fulham. Away and the disparity in the way, they played it didn't they didn't look like the same site. And fact, if anything it was don't Fulham's prolificacy that they didn't just blow them off the field in the first half in particular on. So. The monitor numerous Burgess Sante has to do something with this group and say that you're not auditioning for these sides are playing against you know, you've got to put in the same level of intensity and -plication against these bottom at teams who's that on like is that on him to like is it his responsibility to to get them up for games that maybe are a little bit more difficult for players to get excited about it. I mean, it's always the manager's responsibility in that regard to prepare to have them ready. It's kind of just incumbent on these players. Look, you're paid very handsomely to go out there like this isn't just Uber's Chelsea. All right. Like there's more than just the top six in this league. And you need to be professional shop for work every day, regardless of who the opponent is. I I go back and forth on who's responsibility. It is you look at some of the players. They have other cost. You are Motin. You Nevez Jimenez gonna pick it up dishes. Really do because there's times when I watch them, and they are just playing brilliant football against really good sides on like I said, I mean, the performance against chessy, particularly in the second half was was superb. Now, look I feel a little bit guilty getting on them. Because if you're a newly promoted side to the Premier League what's mission one stay up rice their ninth right now. They are. But are they an newly promoted side in the sense of other newly notes they are not right. They are very much different project. My final loser. JJ? I actually feel terrible about this one. Because you know, he's one of my favorite players in the league. And that is Wilfred zyppah. Oh, I adore him. And kills me. But he's in the midst of actually a quietly brutal scoring drought. He scored three goals in his first four matches of the season. But he hasn't scored since he's over his last thirty one shots, which is among the worst scoring drought right now in all of Europe. If you look at across the big leagues. In in European soccer. And you know, what else happened at the start of this festive period. JJ what we talk about. All the time the streak has been broken palace. Finally won a game in which Wilfred saw didn't play when they beat Leicester City. One nil. Salam get rid of in January. You don't need them received. I don't know if you saw this. But he received an outrageously lucrative offer. I think from a Chinese club that he turned down. But there is some concern. Alec Crystal Palace's to just how much longer he is going to remain a player on that team this summer. I would imagine me to but. Yeah, he did. I think the Chinese offer was I I forget exactly what the number was. But it was it was substantial. So there you go. That is our our three winners and losers from the festive period, you should contact us with your winners and losers at CO soccer pod. A cough, say pottage, Email dot com. You can also contact us. You have Konta contacted us in the last week or so, and that is why we have a mailbag we do have do you know, what I'm going to skip because we talked about Manchester City in. At the top podcast. I'm going to skip those emails. That's you a soccer pod. Coffee pot at gmaiLcom Abe, Rupert kicks us off. I'm an arsenal and US fine. Is there a caught off site proven? Call would -peutic signing Chelsea that can help my very confused American brain. Yeah, I'm dealing with a little bit of that too. With the Tottenham Chelsea rivalry as well. Look may not sound like an easy thing to do. But you just you compartmentalize it. Yeah. And American fans, we talk about this on the grant wall podcast. So we do it all the time. There's guys that you love on your college team. Then get drafted to a team that you despise. But you continue to like that player. And look this is this is the nature of soccer, where international soccer means so much. Like, you've got American players that you love that sometimes aren't gonna play for clubs that you love. But we love him, and I will always root for him to do. Well, I will not root for Chelsea to win. But I can still root for Christian to perform a high level. And we're all going to have to learn to to do that. At Glen Stor. I've had a soft spot in my heart for reading since they were last in the prim. I don't know hoity if they're upcoming FA Cup match against mine. United had a few weeks ago. They might have had a shot. Now, I just have to beg for mercy writing. Of course are second from bottom in the championship. And they face a rejuvenated Manchester United used to enjoy them a little bit because Bobby Condie. Played for reading who's he was a young American kinda of star in the making who didn't quite I think realizes potential and the goal keeper Marcus hahnemann around amendment. Yeah. Although I always associated more as a wolves player, but he was reading I he made his bones at reading, I'm just telling you, also very accomplished helicopter pilot really believe so did not know that. Yeah. Asset the panda curious on old Spurs Andy's take on Adrian rubble rejecting a move to Tottenham because they are below. Actually annoyed with you. Because I think he is below this podcast, and I had no intention even mentioning that these name on this show JJ when I read it only in D rant. What I read it JJ. I was like I was like don't I saw the tweet with the quote, and I just had to say don't throw your computer out the window. Don't throw your computer. I was so angry. I it's just like something about the smugness of that comment. I just wanted to say who are you? What have you achieved to be talking this way? Like get out of here. Get off my timeline go and get get nowhere near my club. I want no part of you on Tottenham. I was like I don't know it struck a chord with like, whatever, you know, I suffer from an unbelievable inferiority complex. And he just banging he punched at the center of that. If he was crafting a comment to hurt you specific just the smugness of it. And just for some reason like it coming from a guy that like, I don't know. You're you're you're a good player fine. But like your. Neymar like real like, oh, I've I was like I hope he goes to arsenal. I want him. Now where we were Tottenham compla- him. I want I want Eric dire hard into those tackles. I hope he goes to some other club in the league. Oh, I wanna see him twice a year JJ, and in cups human need to see your therapist twice a month. Things almost like I'm almost annoyed that we got this week because I was not going to mention his name. I have no intention of ever mentioning again. You know, I made my list for US soccer. We hadn't talked about it in a while. But after you who have wronged him, right? Those who have wronged us list episode of the podcast if I started one for Tottenham right at the top can you stop hammering the tape raviol- right at the top. Okay. Done with him. Joel Bruhns grit win for Fulham. So that was was this December thirtieth. This was sent. So that was the win over Huddersfield. Yes. Assessing young goal on next pod. Please. Explain penalty kick etiquette. It's not etiquette. It's your manager telling you who the penalty kick takers are. And you add hearing to that. How did Kamara just rip the ball away for Mitch isn't manager yelling on the sideline who's to take it very much so Claudio run year? He was huge upset. Kamara rip the ball away for Mitch and then proceeded to miss the penalty. But thankfully, Ryan sesame on scored on that was three valuable points for Fulham. But there is no etiquette. The route what Claudio rent rainier? He said afterwards was the when Mitch is on the field. He takes the penalties. If Mitch wasn't there. Then Kamara will be next in line. But you don't just take it into your own hands. And you've got to score. We saw it with Milivoy vich and Ben techy. That's right. Yeah. Ben berger. Nice name. Yep. I just came out of they shall not grow old. Really? Glad you discussed it on the show last week incredible movie. Yeah. I saw it as well. It was man. It was I'm glad very glad I saw. I couldn't believe how many theaters were sold out. I had to get deep into my list of theaters around me, I had to go to a story to see it, and I don't I don't live in a store anymore. It was pretty impressive. I would say the trailer was so excellent that I'd say soaked in a lot of people, and I don't know where I'm going to see it. And I'm sure you'll get a chance. Search continues on finally Alan Shearer Newcastle. United striker. Record primarily goal score England, former ligon international soul, I'm sitting at home. I better give the background to this sitting at home watching matches day in Arlon, which I don't get a opportunity to do because they live in America, and Gary Lineker, we've just watched Fulham in Huddersfield aforementioned game on Gary Lineker, drops lovely killed Claudio. Shakespeare reference from much ado about nothing because toady are in year. He had said, I will I wanted to kill Kamara. So Lineker goes it cuts back in the studio, and he goes kill Claudio, which is a line from what you do about nothing. And he goes certainly wasn't much to do about nothing. They're good for him. Which wasn't. I mean, it was clunky. Didn't quite work. Neither Danny Murphy are Alan Shearer reacted at all. There's about a millisecond awkward silence. And then Lineker pivots to the game. Because they probably just didn't know, right. I would have known. So I treated this Jerry comes on his high horse. Gary Lineker drops a lovely Claudio. Shakespeare reference from much ado about nothing matches the day, and he gets nothing from Alan Shearer. And Danny Murphy, and I wrote Philistines now that was clearly a joke. I don't expect crayton's. I'm not exactly sure what they should have responded to. But I was teasing. I was teasing. I mean, what are you looking for one? Yeah. I mean, let's drop when when Craig Shakespeare was manager guys we did a lot of Shakespeare references. It was it was it was low hanging fruit. Yeah. And it was a daunting search. So so cheer is on almost directly after the show ends. It's eleven thirty pm. And eat tweets this. He sa-. He tweets he goes. I always preferred the tragedies wit for this for burn you better. Have this ready? I always preferred the tragedies. Having heard your podcast seems the same applies to you. God. Wow. Wow. So I tweeted back. What I'm interpreting from this tweet is that Alan sure listens to the pod about that. Yeah. But now I was like being so nasty like that was come on. He's just having a joke. Yeah. But I looked at his timeline. And he literally fielded about ten tweets from people who are just crushing him on his analysis is thought was really good. I enjoyed listening to him talk about the games, but it's sorta off over there because it's so tribal he gets accused of bias on an almost minute by minute basis after matches day, you know, I'm a delicate flower, and I'm not offended by what he said at all. I think he's clearly kidding brilliant. Because he's tied in Shakespeare's tragedies and our podcast. Yeah. Good. So that was the male Daikin ice. What to watch for FA Cup? Jason FA Cup weekend. Friday to forty four. I can't find it. I'm sorry. What I've done a search. And I can't find it. You can't find the magic have said this to me before the show. I'm trying to do the podcast. You see me? Like, I engineer basically in front of me. I'm trying to find drops on this massive page of different things. I can't find how will you typing out an FA Cup wa to watch. And the thing you think of is the magic noise. So you're right. I dropped the ball. Okay. What do you want to do? So what are what are we stop the show? Now. That's it. Go home, everyone stopped listening God in heaven. Okay. FA Cup Friday. Now, we'd say the magic because this is the magical round this is the big enter employee. What to watch for? I have only tried to identify matchups that put together. Like, you say real minnows and giants look I in some sense Friday to forty five Tranmere. Rovers and Tottenham Hotspur the third team in Liverpool. Tranmere trimmer, currently ninth in league to just a a quick course. I got like little tiny tidbits on some of these little teams here from two thousand to two thousand four actually Tranmere. Reached the FA Cup quarterfinals three times. And they went to the League Cup final in two thousand then they fell out of the football leagues. Right. A catastrophic plunge. But now they're back and they welcome Spurs to Prenton park in the playoff last year to get themselves back into the league. They went down to ten men after in forty eight seconds into the non league final the playoff final. I'm sure they were terrified, but they managed to win that to one and they are now backing league football this match. Well. Earn Tranmere five hundred thousand pounds, which I'm sure for them is huge massive so good for them. That's friday. If you get a chance to check that out Saturday, ten AM Lincoln city and Everton Lincoln city right now, our top of the table and leaked to and if you see that name, and you're thinking, we're did I that sounds familiar where if I heard that well, you may remember two years ago they went on a little bit of a run in the FA Cup. They knocked Burnley out at this stage. Right. Yeah. Saturday twelve thirty Crystal Palace and Grimsby town Grimsby town thirteenth league to they've won six of their last eight in all competitions. You know, JJ who wants managed Grimsby town is a connection to your club. I think go on Bill Shankly. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know who their biggest rival is no whole city, but they haven't met in a league match since the late eighties. You haven't played it all since nineteen ninety eight physi- Yorkshire Darby. How do you like it just seems funny to me to continue to be rivals with club that you just simply don't play? Oh, but did that is a regular? I mean, we see it with like, you know, in the the south coast you see with Portsmouth and Southampton now with Newcastle and Sunderland. Yeah. It's it's very regular weird to me. But the thing that you hang onto the hate which is important Sunday nine AM Fulham and Oldham athletic Oldham, our tenth and lead to looking to reach the fourth round for the first time since two thousand twelve thirteen when they lost to Everton in the fifth round JJ on Wikipedia, you know, who is identified as an old athletic fan. No, Paul Scoles supporter of old math leading. In fact, skulls actually admitted to wanting their managerial job back in October of two thousand seventeen but lost out to Richie. Wellens I over the weekend, by the way on NBC 'Send, speaking of Paul skulls, I watched like it was basically Gary Neville sitting down with skulls and just looking watching like skulls greatest highlights. I thought it was tremendous. Oh, really enjoyed it. Gary Neville, sucker Bach. It was great. It's so good. Yeah. You know what? When I recommend for you. What's Gary Neville was sitting down with Robbie Keane? Oh, yes done. Oh my God. And some of the goals he scored at Spurs. Good Lord was. Yeah. Like, it's funny. I never thought of Paul skulls is really like a great goal scorer. But oh my God. Did they show the gold against Bradford? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. On the full volley. Oh, don't show is awesome. Nettles great. He really is really really fun on that show. Let's see. And then finally Sunday eleven thirty AM Newport county and Leicester City Newport county or twelve leaked to I don't actually have any kind of fun to bid on them her county. Their Welsh day ourselves day. They fell out of the football league for one to well. They're back. They are back. They are back and they're getting Doug Spurs played their last season. I believe okay. I'll say honestly, I don't remember rooting for Newport higher. You should have been oh red card. Yeah. What do you got its tweet? I'm finicky. I'm catching up with tweets from our listeners, and it's made its way in and it's not you for Jones Asaka pot. I'd love to hear some discussion about the madness. Rounding Italian football right now racism targeted towards Kuta Bali dead. Find another stop all last week. Imagine the scenes if this had happened at an American sporting event, God Syria. So that was. That was not believe an inter are inter-napoli which descended into abuse. From the stans foam inter fans for Napalese Kula Bali and not only coach Carlo Ancelotti said the next time. A member of his team is racially abused. He'd be happy for the series. So I stop playing and. Yeah, it was it was it was pretty awful on. We're asked to comment on this on. It's not being particularly good period for for this kind of incident. Not just initially. There was an incident at the Edinburgh Darby a man has been arrested hips fine for racially abusing a black hearts player. And of course, we had that incident at Chelsea. Recently. So I don't know. I mean, imagine the scenes if this happened at an American sporting events. Does racism in American life. It doesn't have to be at a sporting event. And I think that's the key thing to understand with this. There are certain people, right? No feel extremely emboldened to say these reprehensible things, and I know we're seeing it in the terraces again when we thought it had gone away at no it's never gone away in Italy. It's been a constant problem. I don't know how many times this podcast reports on something from Italy on a regular basis. I don't know what your thoughts are on it. There was a lot of suggestions. The referee should have stopped the game. According to Syria ficials dots. Not within his gift to do that. It's only the police can do that. Because there's a public public safety concern about emptying stadium. Just like that that it could escalate a situation. Yeah. Which I which I could see why they would think that way. I mean, look, I I don't know this is a generational problem. This is an issue that I get solved overnight, it isn't solved in general culture. So why should sports culture, sadly, be any different? Yeah. Yeah. I've always kind of felt that it is incumbent sometimes on other fans to let you know, if somebody is saying something that is offensive, and you know, is not a part of your belief system in any way. But I think fans need to let fans. No, it's not okay. And I've talked about, you know, getting in touch with stadium security, if if stadiums offer text messaging that you can anonymously text to to report a fan that stuff needs to be known teams need to make sure that fans are aware of that. If they're not comfortable with something that's happening around them. There was a Chelsea incident. Also Chelsea supporter has now been banned from ten games for three years for shouting, homophobic, abuse, George, Bradley pleaded guilty at Brighton. Magistrates court to the charge of using threatening abusive or insulting behavior to cause harassment alarm or distress. He was thrown out of Chelsea's game at Brighton on December sixteen twenty year old guy. I mean like this stuff needs to happen. I don't I don't know how to stop it other than just, you know, this kind of enforcement. Now, there is being sanctions taken against inter as well, we should point out that that will happen, but they're playing behind closed doors. Yes. Two games. I don't know. What else to say other than that? It's it's disgusting. Red cards on over the course of this podcast voted to this. You're right. It's crazy. But I will say they I do take issue with the magin the scenes if this happened in an American sporting event. We have problems in this country. It doesn't have to be sport. I think that's key to answer. You mentioned a stabbing before. Yeah. There was there was a fine stabbed. Apparently. It would be a pretty big deal. I think avenue. Yeah. I know. I'm just I'm kinda just dealing often thing at the time, which is the racism. I I don't know. It. It's wrong to say, I'm sick talking about it because you most confront these things, but it is depressing. Yeah. Sure. As JJ my red card is to Neil Warnock. Neil Warnock's gotta be up there with he's he's a regular Redwood red card kind of guy guys just like I'm just so over this guy. I've just had it with I've had it with them. Now, everyone has had their say I'm being on being sensitive Andy here, but hear me out everyone's had their say on the Tottenham stadium situation. So why not him war? No. Here's here's the thing. I want you to tell me if what he's saying makes sense to you. And if it does I will resend this red card, but I just want one favor from you be honest. Don't just go against me. Because you think it's fun. And I love Colin. All right. Here's what Warnock said the league should enforce them. Spurs to play at Wembley now for the rest of the season. I don't think there should be any chance of an advantage to any of our opponents. It's not our fault. We should have been playing at the new stadium ourselves. I think they the league should step in. Now it should. Until the end of the season. Now, I think they shouldn't force. It undermines the integrity of the competition. So what he's saying is that their relegation rivals. When Tottenham moves into their new stadium later, the season will have an advantage that they did not have how explain that to me. The attendance for most taught in the matches at Wembley is capped at fifty one thousand at the new stadium. It'll be over sixty two thousand okay, puch, Tino said this about Wembley just a week ago. That is why when I this is a quote from it that is why when I asked before do you want to move I say, of course, as soon as possible because it's going to be a massive boost for the team. And for our fans, it's going to be a place where the fans can help the team to achieve what we want. Am. I missing something JJ. The advantage is to you who got to play the net Wimbley, which they don't even view as their home. They view themselves as having playing road games every week of the season, by the way, people think he looks like Livia surprise. As he on his mother. He okay. How is the advantage to these teams who will have to play Tottenham in? What like Spurs are desperate to get in there. They've done with Wendy. They think it's a sterile environment all the empty seats because they cap attendance, fifty one thousand it's like an abandoned warehouse. This new place say what you want about it not being White Hart Lane. You're right. It's going to be different. But fans are so excited to have a place of their own. It's going to be a culture in. It's not going to be easy for Newcastle to go in there late in the season. What is he talking about? Like, I read that I had to read it three times weight is he like confused is he he's not I'm confused. What I it's so obtuse. It's such an op cheuse argument to make by the way, this was after a game in Cardiff got hammered over twenty five minutes. It doesn't matter where they're playing these this is so weird. I'm sorry. I. He is he's turning into. I mean, he was always that weird. All non like, KOMO jn this he had something he loves winding thing against Tottenham before the match. He said I'm instructing my players not to breathe on them in the box. He said that what is the he's old school? He is from the north. You are from the south of them. So than softies. Human Komen to the no well actually coming across to South Wales. I don't know, man. Maybe I'm missing something. So now, he's always been like that. This is so weird. I want you to watch the the Sheffield United documentary that was on sky. It's on YouTube. I've said I've talked about it before Warnock. Okay. Just watch it. It's from about twelve thirteen wakes me angry. Now, I don't need that. I don't need this. I think you'd hate him even more that I agree with, but he even used to a fulltime at games he used to wander on on and and say things to the opposition to the mope. There's a classic example. So they've just beaten Millwall at Millwall Jody Morris to move on midfielders coming off and there'd being a frat calf with Kevin muskat on some of the United players and he's walking off. And he goes you deserve that. You deserve that. Because what most got sought on Jodie Marsh goes what you deserve it. You know? I was just saying you deserve it. Because most got did why are you saying to join him hours? Walk off the field. That's pretty fun trying to. Yeah. Real quick before we get to our men, and I should actually give one more red card. It was on the screen all along. I just didn't see it. Oh, so I'll take a red card for that caught off sides man of the match. What do you got speaking of Sheffield United Billy sharp? Here's a guy. We don't talk about very much, and we really should he set and you record in English football at the weekend. He was on target for the fifth time in four games to help chef who United to victory at Wigan and in the process become the leading goalscorer in English league football this century, the leading goalscorer in English league football this century. The thirty two year old took his tally to two hundred twenty since making his debut in two thousand and four won't goal. More than former Southampton England striker Rickie Lambert. Yeah. This wouldn't have been my guess. No. Right. This is in the little stress list mixed with. That's true skies. So Billy sharp English league football, by the way is the four division. Right. Right. Where you need to make clear because sometimes it's confusing to you Americans. Why that is that is so rude meant it though. No, I meant look, it's fine. I understand that we have soccer p brains. No, no, no. No, no. I was I was jesting. So the top goalscorers English football this century number one is Billy Shire incredible to Rickie Lambert three win Rooney. He would have been my guess for one four Jim into full five Frank Lampard, six Sergio Guerrero and seven how you can who considering his age at one hundred twenty one goals is scoring quite the pout, Billy, sharp and Rickie Lambert. What a incredible top two. Yeah. Unbelievable. Yeah. So those guys are the the illustrious company that is now topped by Serbia sharp who I will hope. Be knighted in the queen's honours this next year. Let's see my man of the Mets JJ goes to TI goes sterling, I watched a video the other day of Rahim. Sterling's one year old son Tian, go playing soccer in their house. And I was blown away by his technique is so much better than yours. Honest, truly, and I don't even take that as an insult. That's the way to his running is his. Yeah, I have. I mean, it's mainly a visual that like, you can kinda hair. Did you see did you see the moment where he traps the ball like controls it and puts his foot on top coming. You'll hear it kind of. Avoided would. There we go. We go. By the way, breaking news. Adopt me were him sterling like how can you watch that video and not just smile? Oh, he looks like the best. I love him. What a dad father the year? Are you making this creepy? Adopt me off me the I want him to love me the way that he appears to love TI. I go in those clinical God, I have visions of you know, running in a nappy kicking balls around a mansion in Lanchester. I thought it was great. I just like so enjoyed watching it him with his son. Hugging him. Come. Celebrate. With me with me. Oh, beautiful. He's my TI goes the man of the match. But. Yeah, Rahim if you if you're listening come and get me, I can't wait for the Daily Mail headline for this. Well, I mostly collect pay rent. Rhyme, Starling allows child to Ronin house. Has world come to. Mikako parent Ryan sterling leaves topless child in video. Phil find a way. No that won't not on this one looks like just an awesome, dad. Just enjoyed it is impossible to watch that video smile star across. I was. I was at home. Now, that's a wound year old. So I'm at home. But my niece who is two and a half. Her technique is terrible. Yeah. It's so disappointed. The problem viewer embarrassed. She can't trap it. Her crossfield pass is dreadful. She's poor. She's a poor player. And she announces when the poo was coming. Speaking of which I just got note actually earlier today to Jack pooped on the potty. And that is a first. So we are celebrating. Yeah. That's a big deal in the gun house. God is huge. You know, what else is the length of this podcast? I don't even know what to say. If you're still listening. I apologize for for infecting your day. The way that we have with so much content. We also have another podcast out. I don't even know if you have time to listen. But if you do it would be appreciated stop grovelling weaving exit here, I'm taking this from here on we have an excellent podcast with grant wall, which completely sets you up for the year in US soccer that is a head twenty-ninth. We talk about all aspects of it. He's excellent. He gives his insight on Christian -peutic. It's so good. Also what you should do. If you've got to the end of this podcast, which Andrew doesn't believe you how we have a target. Well, I've attack it we need to get a thousand reviews on I tunes. And then what just we'll pop the bottles. We'll celebrate like it's nineteen ninety nine well this. So if you can go on live, leave us a review that would be awesome guys. Well, by the way. Yeah. People crying out for more content from most and you refuse to deliver. I'm when you refused to deliver. I'm sitting here, aren't I when you finally do just moan it's because it's me I feel like I'm imposing I feel it's too much. I know people, and I know they they look at how long this podcast was when they downloaded it and they rolled their eyes. I can't you're you're I know that your ideal push notification system on people's phones for this podcast, would you're would be your head. Popping up and going. It's pretty long, and you don't probably wanna listen if you click on my face now, you can listen to the podcast, but you know, don't go don't don't go to any trouble. Don't you know me? So. Well, yeah. Actually, you know, what forget it. And then you disappear. You're right. You're right. Well, hey, this was fun. I hope it was at least a little therapeutic for you more soccer action this weekend with the magic of the FA Cup to you. I say. Bossia take care. Listening to caught off side soccer podcast.

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Football Postcast: Premier League Week 23 | Arsenal v Chelsea | Weekend Tipping

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Football Postcast: Premier League Week 23 | Arsenal v Chelsea | Weekend Tipping

"Follow party power on Snapchat. The username is the Patty power, and we promised that wouldn't be any boring. Snaps about gigs. The weather all the gym. Thanks the chimney into the rice imposed weekend. Football post cost. I'm breaching Lincoln, and I'm pleased to be joined by Mark Langdon, and Dan Scholtz from the racing post as well as Patty powers Emmett O'Keefe will it can into another great weekend in the Premier League. Also got the best bits from the lower divisions. And right across Europe. We will start off the with six questions the lead skit to each and then get to answer the one they wish they had been asked will start with you, Dan, we've got to Spurs fans. So this might be the one takes for the question for you. Danny's hurricanes injury is disaster for taught them, or is it manageable, you panicking, or you're going to keep the depri- Archer's is somewhere between the two. I'll tell you what he's all stuck. But the problem is when he's been out in the Paul Shuman son has been the key to to pull it could put it on schlock. If you're like he's going there got regardless an office leave him being why the cop it makes it more difficult. Don't think it's is. There's a few wise. It's perfect. I Lucas more. Good play for the middle daily alleys of not nobody's really mentioned this. But he could play his of like a fortune on. It's got some pice physicality good in the genuine. None not genuine know him. But if you look into Sean muddle through for and there are plies that can can take his position, you know, deeper. Lamelo hasn't been playing very regularly. He he can come in Laurentien, everything is bad as everybody's suggested. Well, off actually watching Spurs of been Kane on a little bit earlier in some games, even the man much. You know, what I suppose applying? Well, we've been in deeper could've done with him coming on earlier. I thought when he did come on it cools mention our problems. See how out was going to touch and he's a good good finisher as well. So those various options what you think potch will do I think it will probably be Lorenza might be a combination and might be some games each is Lucas more through through the middle. And maybe the alley option as I mentioned just took us through what? Actually means in terms of games missed. We depend jump in and help out. Sings kinds back. I amount he's back in training. And then he's back miss the. It'd be Mr. potentially Cup following a semi and the semi obviously against show. See there's the first leg against Borussia Dortmund. He definitely miss in terms in the games. They go over see this one this weekend against Fulham. They've got what furred just off to the Crystal Palace Cup tie. And then it's new Newcastle or Wimbley, but it all depends suppose on when South Korea get knocked out the Asia Cup. So I've been going for the drawer the phone times. If he goes out in the course, he could be back for what for that was always kind of working out Jolie's for the company. No, I mean, they go really easy lost sixteen gangs. They're planning team that finished food. And then it's eve sopping it Saudi Arabia cats in the corner. So that stop when are we preview? Oh now, we've putting the process and we're going to preview the knockout stages really Moines rubbish, the Mon once they get to the last sixteen. It's livens off. I mean, the fact that some didn't go out there for the first few games so wrong via rock one of them's Trump by the bookings. So they went off. Mount Langdon Vall. What is it? Good for you a fan. You hate it. Do you think it's a future? What what do like it for as recall that maybe the referees missed them shocking tackles? Everybody seeing once on the replay can tell it's red, and the, you know, the referee because he's different view of it. Maybe a yellow doesn't even see those can be punishing of seeing them. Punish quite well. We had one in the Cup gumming. Yeah. Of course. A good example of one where it did work. And that was a really bad taco that if the referee had seen it he would have given a red card where it doesn't work. Well, these tie is ties of psychos because the problem everybody goes on about clear and it'll be as there's nowhere in. There's no such thing in of solid is clear and over his you Eva offside, or you know, of solid, but thing whether you tone, I always off solid on. I it's just it's ridiculous. And we had that scene before the semi following a when Josie show tried to show evidence that he was off side of her evidence. And he wasn't. I mean, how how you can get the exact wrought frame when the boys kids. So when everything is frozen, really difficult. I think you said he also you on every say, it's not the Old Bailey. Leads to somebody United see. You know, you need Justice spoiled. So I mean, the tiniest of fractions of whether somebody's off side or on side of don't think works. Well. But like I say if there's a really bad tackle it does. Okay. Emmett. It's man sits your liver for Liverpool for the title. But which of those teams with the betting industry lease liked to see emerge as champions definitely Liverpool Liverpool. Traditionally I would say it'd be more well-backed than than any other team in the league whether owns by their own supporters, and that's that's certainly reflected this year. They'd be a much bigger loser for us than done months city with both be losers or have you managed to Kate Mansi on side. I think. Muncie will be a winner at at this point. Okay. And who'd you want to win it. No, no, no. He wants me. And I'm just Archer who do you think it? In. I I think I think it's. They're just such a solid team. My only concern would be towards the end of the season. I think to fact that they they're a little bit short of creativity in midfield on just if the towards the end of the season, if it's sixty minutes gone at home in the struggling to break down a team the possibly could cause them to come on stock. But it's just it's hard see them using games this point. And as a you fan who do you want to win? And. I find this Liverpool side quite likable. I'm a big pharma club. And like the like there's not too many players. I really dislike not maybe. Complete tosses online. Yes. But, but it's still the party wants city twenty two okay. Okay. Fair enough. Right. And Dan who is going down on shoes? Quickly spin through Patty pounds prices once a twenty Huddersfield to to find food on to thirteen Cardiff thirteen to ten Bernie twenty one or twenty three to ten conscious. Mon righty Newcastle. And it's ten bucks is looking like they'll classically boys used a lover. It's any extra Maxine he three from five, isn't it? Yeah. I mean, south up to the left Alvin points wise, I off still one point above the bottom three. But I do agree. They are applying a lot better. Now, probably will get out of it. But I'll think alka faded, and I was so science die. I think Fulham still Galvin. I think how does feel clearly going off to, you know, fighting zippy cowardice but that game as well. How would you about Cardiff? And that's a guy if if you're looking for the rest of the season Cardiff, so many points, you go to get your home to how does field and really they were holding on for a draw. How does food thumb and I it the game that would really worry for college. If I think they'll go an artist. I think full of still got the quality to put a Rana winds together at some sites. They've got the ability out front Royal star to improve a little bit in the back. I mean, the guy way to goes at Burnley, I think keep a clean sheet at home, sir. How does field and a to Newcastle says a few signs of improvement in their an honest new call could be vulnerable. Everybody signed Benitez. We'll Kate them up. But there's a very real like a quality offensively in that saw it, and you know, the end of the die you need. So we can games not just draw them. And I'll still think I could be I could be in trouble. So you'll three a Huddersfield caught if new okay mock, I mean, you've you've done three hour talksport findings about this and guardian post costs. So you know, talking about every mine bit. But just summarize in show, we'll spend the most interesting thing to happen in the transfer window so far. Well, I mean, I think it could happen. Really, we've gleaned if we as I. As I saw it that one it excites me to the point where I'm really interested to see whether he he can KYW in England because not no because the formularies any different is just because he's beating instantly now for for so long if he comes to Chelsea he he arrives as a bit of a fight really at Milan he hasn't. He hasn't been scoring goals for them. He did for you. Enter some previously at Napoli is always been a question markers to wherever he is the elite striker the somebody would say years somebody will say he is and missed a really good chance in the World Cup. Final new Neil against lyrical wash. Jim. The challenge against Germany and his Unsal pushed so hard for him. Because Josie don't want to sign for one year olds the policy best thing and. Bones. You should they have. The more modern way of looking at even somebody like Franklin, Paul. They ended up. He went to America. Then Manchester City they don't like giving out the jump Sheridan finish out his career. Chelsea all everyone saw some village. So that they all came into to conduct freshen up that say even saris pushed so hard for a strike. And I just wonder if we will see the best of Chelsea if they get somebody up front, so that's one that really excites me what you think. Now say they get him. Offense often, he gets them top four. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I do because it's the one thing that they've lacked. I'm what about one lower down division, maybe team that could be transformed by clever business that hasn't really hit the headlines. Well, I think that in terms of that. I mean Preston of signed quite a few players from from lower down than the think Stockley came in from Mexico. They bought another one in for from Warsaw. I'm not sure that that I'm not sure that that's the right way. Points. Yeah. I know. I mean, obviously can just take it can take some Toma quite like, it's which James Collins. I think that they've lacked. Well quality a now the season long. They are another team a lot Preston did their shopping in league one then lead to and then you end up wondering why you got league one league two team because you bought place from leaving only two. So that would I think that's quite quite interesting. I think it was which we will go down. But I mean Collins is a good signing over fans would disappointed he left in the summer and felt we could still do job in the Premier League. So that won't be one. We've had a couple of plays of west timing Tomkins in Colorado have been apps. Superb is brilliant brilliant buys Emmett question. Few Man United there. You'll beloved team to what extent ju- think things have changed. Just give us a snapshot of how you think menu of changed since marina was replaced by so's go. Is it very minor is the jury still out on whether it's going to be beneficial. Or do you really see place on recovery? Both in terms of the philosophy and the potential to get the best out. Of a team that was underperforming. Aren't as clear signs of change? I think tactically of the us has been well documented playing Paul Paul the role with Harare and modest sitting is obviously and like kind of back at Buckingham to the hill has really unleashed him. As a player, you're starting to see the player, this every minute of fun told talk that they were getting when they signed them couple of years ago. And also, I think the like the Armani like it's hard to get world class players and is in Marino, it stayed there for much longer CIA Pablo. Pablo would seriously pushed for a move if he finished the season strong? This this is this a reasonable chance. He might stay now. The same applies hair on Marcial, maybe as well. And then deleting is obviously Marcus Rochford Buckingham as the first choice striker, and he just looks completely different player than was. He wasn't Marino. Using air to the team before we're much born consistent. But like the. With him and the team instead of the Kaku. It's kind of it's unlocked kinda verb a Lincoln and kind of team player that little wasn't happening. Under marino. Exa Ivy got plan is on the top four again very much. So I think if he saw. Wayne signed didn't work like Percy things things. There might be little bit trouble headed Chelsea like the Georgina signing actually hasn't worked out at that. What at all? And I think they're the strode into break teams down with playing his art as the false nines, not really working on like, I think Audie Garson rail. Trouble like that bacteria of Mustafa s the crowd is in cassini's, isn't isn't fit for purpose at all. I think it's a terrible sign for them as a club. But the defense they have that. They're only they're only only only loan signing seem to be available that I'm going to spend any money. So I think there's an opportunity there, if you know for sure it's gonna be interesting don't if you want to take that last cushion done off me to repeat it went on longer than one in Brazil. So which one are you going to have done? I'll take the at one all take a different view us. Do this. Synod sounds crazy. So all you against six wins in a row, but. Us are still stand by the fact that the first five game plan against four the six the time was hung diploma for one of the one of us out in the league at the moment. I'm sorry. Eleven defeats in fourteen. And then this a Spurs gone. We always say, oh, this is going to be the Geiman yet. I've won it a Kuyper. Look the actual game. I mean link Spurs it was a record for the Premier League this season the amount shots on soggy. I hadn't out now. You could argue that the highest great game the Spurs finishing wasn't true. Oh, the oh. The shots were seen to be central to the go. Now, that's just a bit of a quote, really? I mean, the to all to Sunday defending fantastic. You don't you? Don't defending right. If you're facing the harsh amount of second half shots in the league this season. So you know, they played a bit first off. It was counterattack football really Aumont. You could say reminiscent of Marino's taxi in looking to council. Now, I would say clearly the plan will confidence which you get from ah wins. And the fact that some pliers clearly heights. It Marino poker number one. And they're applying now is if there's a white off the show, so there's definitely inanimate there. But in terms of tactics, and all they suddenly brilliant. Same that's going to death. Finish top four or after si-, white and see. And I'll be surprised if they did so full, okay. Mock keep on the United famous. I think the one thing that we know is differently. I think that was maybe the the question started out as well. So. This question was social done differently. Offing ease did pice now wherever that comes from desire of deploys that she wouldn't seem to run into spring. But he the fluid from free wasn't it. Because God so we'll play up front and then dropped in. And you saw hour when rush for playing in-between the Tilton sent halls fullbacks, but they played with pace when it was countered. It wasn't of slow pedestrian stuff that we saw so often on the Marino. There wasn't directness to get out there and pump offering support and the rare sometimes they were getting people in the box. And you've seen the call for Laney plans like that con- they can't run as as quick as as ones in the team on foot was just too slow. So you can't solve the defensive issues without buying plays. Because I don't think the defense is good enough. At least they're attacking women. And when they go forward nothing that's been the big difference. So where will they finish finish fifth fifth? Okay. Well, let's thank you very much. Oh, no in Emmett raw the which one. Are you going on the top question just on Delhi? I personally think he can be a world class striker. I think the when he plays. It's kind of a number ten or linked player. I don't think he gets enough tortures of the ball to justify playing there whenever I've seen him play up front for top them. He's he's really impressed me. He's really good. I forgot around the box as well. As superb in the air superb the air. So he's he he he's changed agent in the last year or so there's some suggestions that he might want to talk to them. I think if he did leave talk them, I think it would be to go somewhere. He could play as a striker. Okay, chaps. Thanks very much. Indeed. Let's move onto the weekend. Prove is we'll start with the twelve thirty Saturday game wolves versus LeicesteR Midland's Darby at Lola new live on sky and Howdy. Patti Powell bet wolves thirteen to ten draw twenty one to ten Lester twelve five days a to really really difficult teams to cool, Mark. What are your thoughts? Did I really three different coal pin Jovis? Yeah. I suppose from listeners point of view, it's wherever the plaza still plying for Puerto or wherever, you know, there's a Marino situation going on OB lower level or indeed Ronnie airy situation, maybe the I mean because Athens at Southampton with. Wpro as well. I mean results quite good. I'm going to go for the draw just because like journey one one of those five in the Premier League. That was a brilliant win a why salting them, but they probably come Tottenham. Oh, good ta and they were pretty naked by the sign plays for Christmas less inconsistent. But maybe this is the topic. I enjoy RAV of them vying owns a Southampton or college because you know, they've wanted Chauncey and a thing that wells teamed lights play in that way, where they white for the positions or attack. Exactly the same. You could get this kind of situation when just stand there, and you know. Yeah. Even at kickoff. You wondering. You have to you have. And I think bullies MRs welfare for wars. I think he's he's pace the back guest amount of a few tricky situation. So low scoring drew, Dan what show the sentiments especially about the the white suit teams play. They're both counterattacking. Seems you look at results I've actually both got more points. So I from home than have a home that that's how would you feel if this fixed to the moment was being played at at LeicesteR? I would probably go for wolves. Because of the way the prices are on the value for the same Connery's, and I'm going to go for LeicesteR as a value era or away from home. The why they play wolves will be on them to controllable and try, and you know, pick away for less city fence, they tend to struggle to through that student. Go a great deal up front. I'll just drink Lester not just the oyi phone, but the good results against big teams shows you that counterattacking prowess. And I think there are a little bit overpriced their home disadvantage, a new thing Emmett, we'll show view this one. I'd probably go. Other way, as as as Don said both sides are better way from home. But I kind of feel this will be a bit shorter hair. I think like wells obviously under huge pressure. And he's been in these type of games where if they if they lost that he possibly get sacked. And then they've ended up winning the Chelsea away game being the classic example of that. But I I'm not sure he's all the players on side, especially Jamie, Vardi, an lean towards wolves. They're okay. If you'll plan to Hong Kah down, three o'clock suck Assads and have some vets. We've got loads of tips coming up here in just a moment. Success ain't tent. It's bought. That's why Poti power we paid the big bucks for the best techniques in the world to develop our new fastest Ayar app. Don't know the new app on the app store or place Donau eighteen plus begun to ROY. Then we'll come back. Let's spin through the three o'clock Saturday afternoon Premier League games of which there are six with bulma th west hand, Emmett what's the latest from Patty Powell and this one format seventy-five draw five to two West Ham nine to five Mark. Seventy one two they lost twelve forty if I really well actually against ever some kind of musuem wasn't planning. They said he was ill. So I'm assuming he'll he'll he'll be back, and it wasn't some Januario ISIS that you sometimes get replies. The wants to leave west time do like them, but they've disappoint Burnley embroider when you them to win. They lost both of those games, boomer. Okay. Dan, west time for me. I'll do agree that played very well Everson. A we're on lucky. I mean to near was a ridiculous score on for that. Twelve games seven points about a bad run there for a long time west time in twelve twenty three points. I been convinced going the, right? Wipe almost gone the wrong way West Ham for me. This kid Bruce continues to impress Brooks is he's he's destined for I would say a big six, Columba, lovely view. And it will show view yet. It's just as you mentioned David Brooks. He was going to be my tip but seventeen to score. I I think he missed. Greg John's last week against Everton nil pretends to be very for positions in the box. Sometimes it's finishing hasn't been the best Bush. He he'd be the way I'd lean here. Good chance the players as a number ten in in this game. Okay. Polly Goto Liverpool with number three choice. Goalkeeper Jillian Spro news forty in may between the sticks because Hennessy and guy outta or injured. So I live favorites salutes. His betting Liverpool. One six draw six to one policy into one Bryce, Bryce, Mark. I will often, Bruce maybe when Ericsson goes the Real Madrid won't be the one for Spurs young getting for Liverpool to win to near. They won every game. They played against non big six. So far this season twelve fifteen. What's new now? No policy shots man city by that. There was a penalty in an absolute world. Not okay, we'll process at roughly it was working. You always definitely working men's price. Didn't see. I'm she'll probably power best. He was around about this. All right. So eleven that will do. Thought maybe all best great, Dan. Everything's price. I'll just think reports shorts on the last few games. You know, the economy are the wolves recipe. Applies that some injuries. The brought in guiding the kites taught guiding when it with a penalty, I'm not sure they're actually playing that. Well, not that smooth it in the moment, Matt's parenting, that's son of champions coatings. View the applying. Where will you know? I don't think I apply in that moment match it could be coming back in. So be honest. When of seeing him play this season, I'm not been that impressive in what should the guy at Burnley Bundy gave him a lot problems. So I think palace of watch them log, it's a big scene love and been live on on television. I play well in these big game show. She why though one one and go down when it has all come on turn three one mine, you know, very bold in that gun could have won it ended up withdrawal, man. See they won. I'll just think they're, you know, they also say, and I do I do go for in these games. Go counter-attacked threat. Oversee was a hall case back Ben check hype back against I mean, he's a bit prove isn't. But I'll just think everything's on over the guy Lavi, Dan and Emmett ten degree Mark here policy are definitely the most dangerous proposition away from home as it's been the case threat to write the hardest an era Bush, which Sperone there. I. I wouldn't I wouldn't fancy thompkins on their defense. Bill to keep the ex three goals at home all year, and to two of those came against our stolen. So I think five six represents decent value kuenz this season in it. Yeah. I I've never really liked has gone on since he ever since he's even since since he played for west. Oh, I never thought of him. As a superstar at western binding means base being really him and Sacco. Excellent. Really, really good Edessa. You a mauka riot. But I appreciate the sentiment. Dan, Man, United Broughton. Emmett was the latest minority won't four drone on to Brighton. Ten to one ninety two Russia's each way school. I I mean, we spoke about the earlier on about the attacking say rush would benefiting many from that. And he's lost. He's knowing games. He scored in six matches. So he somebody the raw on top of each game brilliant finish against buzz and also seems to be on free kicks as well around the dependent. We folks Brian just away from home that they disappoint me more often than not okay, Dan. I think you know, how to win. But only it might be tightly. Brought in an often in these games against the big SARS defend quite well in the to break down for long periods of just thinking a low scoring Nazi when I go you Nasi one there. Six to one Manu fan. It. Teams to score here at evens. I think is probably should be odds-on as us dementia. Charlie I've been very shaky defensively and Domon mutter no matter who the manager is those issues. Those issues are hard to solve especially vulnerable from set-pieces Breitner are huge right there with Shane Dauphin Louis dunk. There's some eighteen to one around chained off score anytime as well. Which is where Johnson on that sounds big across as much. Not not lately, it was it was hard to be enthusiastic balanced. Yeah. Did you want to go? Oh, I'm Gobert. Deftly for the season lovely stuff. Okay. New cost college next relegation battle latest prices in it. We've Newcastle ten to eleven drone on four of sixteen four fancy new custom monk. No, the injuries AP top against Blackburn. Are they were a couple of problems? There are no go scores a big runner in this one. It was in reverse fixture that both four new news each dimension only that college seems to be playing for that against others failed. Adopt the same approach it new car. So have new cars the quality to break anybody down even called. If I've got my downs. You make this favorites. Be last one much then. Could show show thing e costs win the game actually apply in the last league show Caesar Thais each I lost to one just thing right code. If it's off said both teams could go down new costs a much better chance in college. If I think you call the best so tight and Emmett the draw. Onside as Mark said guitar conference. Neither team Cardiff point. One two expected goals at home to holders. Just. And it's. Money start up top, which he's obviously, not great. But he might be bit of improvement over Potter Sohn. But I'm a drawer. Okay. Southend's evison. How'd you hear that? That's thirteen the draw twenty three to ten and thirteen tough advocacy stunt the place that they want to really really average Southampton down on this. But the fact that they went to the penalties on Wednesday and ever since about free week is a problem long appear to go of carrying injuries problems up front anyways. I that just so move me away from the ninety minute. Mark mentioned Redmond last week didn't school against LeicesteR. But then did school on Wednesday night against he missed a penalty. So used to go a bit work to do in the ball to tend to one I go. He's got five and seven and this was a play that people were raving about when he was living on the twenty one complete. You'll see why one going fifty six matches one stage. Under various FM manages us new to getting chew now. Ten to one per big given the Evison giving up chances in every game. Okay. Dan. I'm Everson agree that were very very lucky against Bomo for just think it was a game with a run on the pressure on. They just needed to win whichever way we four it goes in the side secrets and Richarson, you know, a fairly high out there on the top scores list. Southampton ings has been out for weld on lately returned. So they haven't got that go through I'll just narrowly Goto Evison. And finally what for Burnley? Oh, no Emmett yet ceramic, Southampton Everton, and certainly agree to Mark. But but revenue for even very sharply came on during the week. But I go for even with sometimes striker problems. I like over two and a half here. It's five last six games. They're very talking talking team wonder hospital. Will ever very fortunate to concede against born. And I don't trust zoom in Qena. Keen at the buck there. Cayenne funny. We got Wolford Burnley Waterford eight to fourteen draw eleven four Bernie four to one. What you think Mark pretty soley for the accumulators Nicole's of been on on a run of wings lately. The western performance was pretty good. But some of the office. I mean, they Betty create a challenge against bonds Lee than they've called beat Fulham by show on soggy and still want to one what for the really good top-ten thing season. Find out for that seven spot on the gun the Everton caught by me. It's a realistic chance for them. And I think they all run us for the FA Cup as well. So yeah, what do they put it on the go? Comey with you. Gaudy. And it's the way of doing things she's rising. I told them about my food. I heard I couldn't believe. Really of concern readers listeners or get in touch the racing post wants, it's they they seem to share my love of meats where it was one of all the of all the companies to go on their podcast. And so you have any vegetable in about a month fruit in six weeks. God. Two hours. Okay. Dan. What versus Burnley? Yeah. I think what do probably win this game of timing. Rushing pollen. And third say just the fact Burnley won three games in Iran, now only key night points when ever. I've always looked just a bang average championship. So our pool. So I do not I think mentioned early about the relation. I'll still would be totally surprised if I ended up going in the free just think well, probably waiting we'll watch wolf, but he's only got free this season Gerald Ford, but he has a lot of chance. He's hit the beans last week. I'll just think he's an anomaly at the moment is goal tally. I think you'll get caught fueled forty end of the season these six to one to score. I go over price to impresses me about what just go go threat from so many different areas that can score in a lot of different ways or good side. Very dangerous underwrite it side. Emmett will you be siding with what think Burnley can keep accumulate in points in that mysterious of as? Very press to for it. And it's like have your Grassi. They might actually manager could be on the end of the season on the possibly grew grow with him, which they haven't really done since they kill the Premier League. Both having said that they only have to clean sheets at home all year and Bernie should come full conference after the three wins in the bones. So go boating to score here. Seventeen to twenty smashing. We've got great Saturday evening fixture on the books. Some BT sport and kicks off. Fivethirtyeight Emmett's is also versus Chelsea should be crackup. What's the latest betting Emmett arsons fifteen eighth draw five to Chelsea thirteen? Ten now early on in the post because she would really skydiving the defense. So we'll let you go first because I'm interested snowy think this one the Chelsea their struggles this year, it's hard. It's hard. Not to see has arts Petra Willion causing the ostlund back three series series issues. It feel it feels like arsenal of kind of found. Fan their actual level. Whereas they're overperforming earlier in the season. Even though as I said a impressed with Georgio this year. And I'd like see them like see Chelsea try midfield with coverage contain maybe some like leftist, Chico barky in front of them. But he even even said, I said that I. Contre star here the Chelsea win prices a little bit skinny I think so I'd probably go for Chelsea to win. A bow teams to score three to one. It's hard to see Chelsea keeping arsenal scoreless by think. Chelsea should work run amok in the country accent. What do you think your genome, he's eight dollars? Actual does look at so of possessions. And so one carry the team forward he's really high up and then starts, and that's what he's asked to do. He hasn't gotten assist. He's no that's no job to get. This job is to get the ball the pitch, and then he's up to the full players to do it. And I think Jozies problems being the the forward to do it. Which is why when vary by if he going comes over the he's even if you even if you don't even overrated, he still better than what Chelsea got up front of Murata completely just gone, and confidence wise and you've ruined not fancied in the style of play. I think if you do fancy chose I think that that. Emmett mentioned with boating to school would be the one off in the Chelsea prices. A little bit too tight for my liking. I'm going to play a Tutu on the correct school oversee awesome big problems defensively, but they have got four players that can hurt Chelsea as well and Joseph struggled themselves. We've both over the top in pace. If you think back to the stone game, the reverse Vic, she was free to awesome. Create a lot of chances in that game. And didn't eat them solving is is going to be a high scoring game. The one interesting thing for me is tons of holidays intends to play better away from home easily go in the Premier League at Stanford bridge was September twenty nine. So I mean, he enjoys playing on when Josie got bit most by so maybe that might be an avenue. I go scores. But an interesting game. All snow. That's not forget dipping Tottenham deservedly four two and drama Liverpool. Home a tongue veins going to be a stroll for Chelsea just can't trust. Snow to win the game. Damn what your thoughts? I think our show got bit more firepower agree shosha defensively. So you put that together as well as all shnell strong for only mind in Liverpool actually got homework season. As Mark mentioned the result. Some some decent results can big teams at home as well. I'll just thing is going to be a close close game out go withdraw air it's five to two. Awesome. Big worries that defense Kan city, fifteen hours fifteen dollars more than Chelsea, which is a big big difference. But I is a is a tough place to go and get a win. So so for me, we can see the Emory played that high out the page against shows if we can see surely Emory can can see that as well and being old, and we need to rein in a little bit and expose ourselves. A little bit kind of bloody minded about it stopping. There is nothing is not confused as a bass. So there's a lot. Now, you know, we need to stump our forwards on the game. And this is how way of playing and pressure from support to be offensive. Call seem being quite stupid as what they have been. Okay. That's a tough test. The two Sunday games. We've got some Fettis short price favorites from assuming that let's think about those next check out, Pat, his rewards tab, simply place, five beds have ten pounds or more across any sport in a week. And you'll get a free ten pound. Then next week teams. He's applying plus began to welcome back foot. We'll post cost it's Bruce Millington Langdon and Patty pounds. Okay. Can enter the two live primarily games on Sunday. First of all one thirty live on Sky Sports at the what's it called? Now. The John Smith's, isn't it? It's how does filled managerless Huddersfield against Manchester City for a short man city was the latest betting Emmett's Horsfield nineteen to one the draw. Fifteen two months. Anyone days pub migrants who will be leading smart Hudson's. Is hudson. What you like this could be could be only every game as a manage. If you if you mean, maybe just stays in the background so coaching somewhere wants others food. So out that you can see for these days, how shoot Bush's Dortmund reserves manager says writing about that. Yes, they may begin to try and get Wagner to and probably the right thing to do I suppose in fact did a unbelievable job. I mean, I get in them up thing keeping them up probably should've left in the summer. He's taking far. As far as they could go and tones of this game. I think he's exactly the wrong time. I could see the man's that you may be covering this or minus two pretty comfortably always looking for new correct school as the way to go. I mean, they just have seventy percent possession. How does nothing up front? I think they they do well in midfield is FOX's, and that's that's the way you pay your money. That's where men's just mild was better. And I wonder if this is a record maybe for hung teams not to one. Deserved Fatah's food wearing the championship with his team. We know Moi wherever they finishing probably not top sakes. Probably be. If they by doll Samora, probably W'll neutral venue to be over food. So yeah, I think it's going to be easiest just four new March city put Danja city wobble on them. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I caught fancy I'm actually in the in the race to Michael. Mike at four point deficit. I think they should just a guy around me they're going to win. But I really off going for three near worker ex scarlet to could quite easily before five, but how does feel generally I haven't concede lots of the ship six actually I'd say in the reverse fixture. But I knew Maly through the school reasonably respectable go for. Easy win three new just quickly, Malcolm. It says he thinks Liverpool. Hang on just said, they think city win the time when she think Fink I'd probably just age towards Liverpool. Still I mean because full points. Isn't that big lead? But my y'all seats win virtually every go, you know, move news to say that they're going to do that, particularly when the Champions League comes around just won the this season, even pick waters says differently. I just wonder if the Champions League is maybe a bigger deal to see what it is liveable distort as a historically of course, live upon European Cup. It means a lot. But it's a win the Premier League offing, maybe see could get slightly distracted around about that sort of caught fun semi final stage. She will be crucial because if they go saw seven points, Bill and. Okay. Emmett what you think will happen when Huddersfield city. The loud settlements there. I think it's field. Definitely feel sympathy for David Wagner, UP McStay their ability as lots to even get them at the championship without squad was a great achievement. Stay up last year was incredible as well. Just giving the players they have as well. It wasn't in it. Be like a obviously sometimes they were very cautious the bigger sides. But I I like, they're they're pressing style. But as Mark Donovan often in in both boxes of interesting how Vagner goals when he goes to maybe if he goes back to Germany or something like that. But here I you can't see what is competing here. I think city city to eleven ten okay. So they've got win by three or more for that bet Sakaba of the the other primarily game. Indeed, the fun one weekend. Four PM on Sunday at the cottages. Fulham versus Tottenham live on Sky Sports. And it's also they played for both clubs thinking caps on. Well, Emmett gives us a show betting Fulham for two one draw twelve five and taught them to eleven okay. They played for both clubs loads. Danny Murphy, Brank more skull Paul Kamara not Kamara then belly belly. I saw we saw played for both clubs they managed both clubs Davis. The Ron winger David David, David. Yeah. He did. Yeah. Yeah. The Stephen Kennedy might even play for full run the Stephen Kelly. There's a law. Every Joe Joe Joe. Yeah. You probably get seen them see Dempsey. Yeah. Always fertile. Isn't. It could be the most disappointed. I jeez. The next hour or so I couldn't actually come up with a really strong so eleven they what happens by the way off we record pies cost gyn, selfish differences. I what was they played for both clubs in just spend age should've said that one anyway on who's going to win Dan child's Spurs interesting the market. Action has been able to all right. So fifteen. When the market opened now there around eight hundred eleven four in places look at Spurs record against teams out. So at the big sixty season fourteen wins sixteen I've either in the league over ten wins out twelve Wyoming, these really really big statistics. And then our pint of Fulham side all second from ball freak. I'm losing sequences that kind of mini revival that around the Christmas and new year period. And they're still not great at the back another about a coupla clean sheets. Just think Spurs is not as much of a disaster. As a lot of people making out the mother still plenty of goals in the so I suppose to win. Okay. Emmett. Echo. Don sentiments there. I think it's very hard to trust Fulham. There was obviously two goals Suburbans, bad luck. But there was dying in any way to be the first one would have gone in the first will just be just like Brian was kind of facing towards his own goal, which leads to more likely to kick the ball insure goals. They didn't that was great. I think Spurs squad stretch. But I'd I'd find to go over the line here, especially if Lucas more plays. There's also some seventy two around on short score anytime John sing scored a to go last week. And he takes plenty of shots. You gotta run for your money there. He looks really old doesn't he's oldest fights in the premium. He looks so wizened old silence. As we go. Watching understands and videos in of shut location. I mean, he's definitely boys enough. Yeah. He does. I'm I'm gonna go for Tottenham Windass over. So she offering. Pre. Rustic market reaction. Really? I mean, they since eight to fifteen before they probably mentioned then the right to firts off. They play it. I mean, I wonder what prosecutors go if this carries on you might even be able to get a bit five to seek so somebody I mean, even without Harry Kane. I mean, we were news some wasn't going to be playing in this game. So we've I retain. Obviously talking less les Jones winning. But they're still daily earliest Christian Erickson mementos even even urine say somebody that actually in recent weeks as often playing really well got the hat trick against from me. He scored against west time when he was given a moment in that he doesn't until you many nothing actually in playing to a free munchies could help him get rhythm going and he's game. It must be quite difficult. If you just coming on for free minutes here and there, and you starts don't look good. You've played nine scored number. You minutes is probably about thirty urine. So you could enough to travel a full in defense is absolutely useless. Really? And Eva it's improving but still uses law over the hurricane being out the overly affects market Spurs fans would argue that somebody Christian Erickson is equally important and he was out for mission games earlier in the season and the Spurs price wasn't anywhere near affected as much a lot would argue. He's actually just as important. Okay. Professional odds. Compiler Emma O cave. What? Sure segment of what the market might do between now and kickoff there. Probably see the Tottenham price short based like the again, it would depend it depends on whether Moore Sasol core fish, I would say if both if both of them are I wish I could see maybe Oliver skip play midfield for Spurs. He's billion own players. If Dougherty them French Goto, maybe five six ten to eleven. I think it depends a lot on news. They always the only expected goals Tottenham may even though they lost to United in terms of the one of the few games a season. When actually it hasn't form for them. They're in their team that seems to be over cheating quite unexpected. Goes I think drifted to about sixty five against bunch issue. So I think the market is. So a slightly against him. And there was a big move chose in the league up against Tottenham whenever that was that first leg. So I mean, there is a negative. Just Jim really about Spurs in the market at the moment. Even before the canes stuff. Okay. Let's before we get the naps. Any other teams? You want to flag up either low done divisions or rights across the continent. Dan, I'll flag up Blackburn home suit switch which in Champaign ship. Another played the Cup, garnish new costs on choose the extra song. They got knocked out. But choose to side is not used to that on recovery on the the Bradley came off the bench and the rest of the few important Playa. So that they can. Gonna be a full strength team back to an artist thing, which are such a poor. So I would offer the bomb Rover sweet one Neil the shot stats were eighteen to three Enviro Rover in that guy. That's a room in the championship. There's such of a few times live season, they really poor side Blackburn caught quite a bit with back in ninety Graham arm, Sean, going forward old items. So and its infamy, Mark. Value in leads a white stalk eyed face get Nathan Jones bits onto I mean. It's a mishmash sports for for mall. QC Gary railway, nor NAS time to go in. And then try and change the philosophy of the team. And I think how much expectations still I. It doesn't take much for that to turn and leads all the best team in the championship the going along very well at the moment, also tremend-, maybe a little bit overpriced against a Swindon seen the soon dancer ten-man Lincoln. It was only when they went down to nine men they managed to get the draw in that game. I mean, ordinary speaking they could be walking into that game to defeat and in Italy Napoli to be lots yo just a shade of was pretty fair on one of the things that might be tough night than Jones because he wasn't a stellar name. It wouldn't have been hanging out with crowd. She journeys playing career has gone in there and he's taken a struggling scope. But there's a lot of big time. Charlie's in big names. Older plays this. He's got a win them over as an e. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, go we win the funds over. I mean, I think when we were working in this environment we do. So we talk about loot of quite bit. And we know he's done offensive. You know, you regular stunk fund doesn't know that these. Yeah. And he's he's a whole thing for him to probably the holiday gone. And then you you lose the first two matches, and it becomes even more difficult. Budgeting desperation to get the win isn't what you need to do. And. Row. It played a very Dr. Way of playing and Nathan Jones is completely different so easy going to need time and offing almost given up on this season now, and it's about what they do next year. Okay. Don't tell us the net. Tillis any other teams you fancy party bar Munico worked. Look, the minus one of the Asian on Deka away. Too often. I'm they really hit form before the winter break, and I see them continuing that on and Jason Dan Dormann for the league. Let's get the naps. Will be going to be very boring very confident what for eight to thirteen to be Burnley. Mark Langdon, a number of some primarily team Tottenham drift is gone way. Too far against fuller. They've won ten of twelve Premier League. Or why matches and even without Harry Kane expect to Ericsson and Ali in the medical problems and win. The game court comes Dan Charles out Saudi last week of Plymouth south and this to go even bigger price pizza bar signed division, loosen through like Luton about the just a few signs Niphon Jones going performance is maybe dipping a little bit. They lost chef Wednesday in the FA Cup replay on choose the as a few problems with personnel will Donnie Hilton's suspended. You know, one of the most important strikers. They've also performances at five of our wins. It's Glenn, right? How would he feel were has been out long-term injury? I've. Dip in performance the side of the coin bar Lee Tomlin back for that level is a bit a class, really. And you put him in the side Madison plateau the moment, he's a match-winner Auburn. Tony's scoring load of goals at the moment. Then sometimes it doesn't click for pay up. I have one of the best second best record in league. One against the best time who off loosen the away record a win through never mind bills. These boys are the ones who do. They're the ones who really nicely Perv knowledge land smoke. You wanted to jump in your mortgage? Pens. Sewing phone on loan from Dhabi's. Plays lost because of injuries, and you mentioned early. Anybody could make an impact for if if he stays fit the one I mean, he was being talked about as a Premier League play not that long ago, very rich championship. That's the problem and to complete the ACA what if you go cold Schanzer four to five zero very well at the moment, they've won their last six and fitter short on should be. But short on confidence here, they're really stolen defensively and coming off three zero defeat away. And I think it's hard to justify them being short as they are. Wigan villa upon the five things we learn. It was. Yeah. I mean, I mean it was a professor performance weekend. Yeah. No. It was it was the lowest point in football or something like that. Yeah. I mean the honeymoon period when you've him, okay? A whole double Jones Peterborough Tottenham and walked for those are your naps chaps. What's the weekend hold monkey and get out and about the sheepskin? I really good game in league to Colchester against Mansfield to running raw Milwaukee also on sisters hen weekend. So. Whereas in livable so from fraud you moaning to Sunday afternoon. So. Go h care for coaches from side. But it's me a non year old and a five year old is he'll be ten jarred. So they are they are. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's going to be tough. You got the press conference just to? Awesome shows that often you're probably going for a roundabout that time and maybe get Pizza Hut delivered as well and Q about four birds with one stone good were to suss out damn what you do. This weekend can just Josie. I'll be taking Emily soon. She turn three among these are promised. I'll take it to a first game. Don't that? White since I was I think it was a one new loss in China when she was a dog. I still love you. So you'll be victory road yet. And what we always work whenever ask you. What you wake him plans are days off Friday Saturday. So I should get a chance to watch the football on like many people are on the New Year's resolution jimbo's. Well, so try to do that as a dry January dry issue h Janeane somebody saying. That just means drink more serving you'll Blunk. Well, yeah, quite yeah. Yeah. Dry side drive on cetera. Okay. Chaps? Thank you very much. Indeed. If you enjoy the shows we'd love to write review and subscribe wherever you're listening. Let me quickly tell you about an upcoming post concert. Dave Auden hosting the lights for the weekend racing tomorrow on Monday, Mattie, we back to review the weekend racing. Cheltenham NC post on choose. We'll go from Wednesday and we've got football back here next Thursday. So hopefully, you can join us for some of them. Follow potty power on Snapchat user name is Patty power, and we promised I wouldn't be any boring. Snaps about gigs. 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Palpable Frustration

Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney

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Palpable Frustration

"Out. That's his third travel of the night. Normally, I get on this case for being a complete school. But tonight, I'm chilling. Stephen what's gotten into you. I know usually I'd be off on a ramp right now. But I gotta tell you this vivid seats thing has got me completely changed one hundred percent authentic. And I got these great seats yesterday on a good seats at stress-free. Wait. What are you doing? You. Put mayo on my hotdog. What's the matter with you? There's the old Stephen we know. These baseball tonight the podcast. This is the baseball tonight podcast for Wednesday. April tenth two thousand nineteen BUSTER only filling in this week for our producer. Josh macrey stainless, dancing and stands at your. Jay's ruined the ring ceremony day in Fenway park. How you feel about that? I'm feeling great BUSTER at this point as a Blue Jays fan. We're just looking for minor victories that we can get throughout the season. And this is one that we can just stack on top of the next one which will be led junior Megan's way to the big leagues. Yeah. You fueled the anxiety of Red Sox nation, which we're going to get to today for sure we'll be talking with Dave show and field about that. Some news and notes for the day. Mike trout had to leave last night's game with a groin strain. He told reporters afterward. He doesn't think he's going to have to go to the injured list. But he probably is gonna miss today's game. Pirates pitcher, Chris Archer was suspended for five games. He's appealing that suspension. Yes. Peak suspended for two games manager. David bell suspended for one game that all stemming from that incident between the pirates and the reds on Sunday. Archer is inaction Puig is serving his suspension in starting Mike cleven ger was placed on the ten day injured list. He's got an upper back strain. This is a major injury Terry Francona told reporters at the right hander won't be able to pick up a ball for six to eight weeks in the ANC. He's got bad news about Luis Severino. He's got a latte strain that will prevent him from even picking up a baseball for six weeks concern, we'll be talking about coming up. The Mariners continue to be red hot. They beat the Royal six three with help from Jay Bruce Junus in with a sign. Here is the three one pitch. Swing gonna fly ball straightaway left feeling deep going back going into the one trek near the wall. Leaps up goodbye baseball. Jay Bruce within opposite field home run into the Mariners. Bullpen straightaway left field. That was for the Mariners a the thirteenth straight game in which they did a homerun. Rick ribs with that. Call seven ten ESPN Seattle Seattle eleven in two so far this year. The Dynamex beat the Rangers with a walk off to to pitch drive. The right. Fax? Banks win this ballgame bed the four three in the knife. Greg Solti Zona sports, they need point seven FM. Yet. Gerard dyson? Not the first guy. Think of for a walk off the Braves were in Colorado Matt's free who was so terrific in his first start of the year last Thursday, find two-thirds perfect innings. He was great again last night six scoreless innings against Colorado. And he got help from dance Swanson swung on lifted to center field and deep on his horses. Desmond. He looks up that balls outta here to straight away sooner field. Dan's be Swanson is taken one over the four fifteen Mark and straightaways center up. Three run Homer. And the Braves are up five to nothing. Joe simpson. Six eighty the fan at Lanta win seven to one the twins facing the Mets Jacob your grandma on the mound with a streak of twenty six consecutive quality starts that tied with Bob Gibson. But this game wouldn't go as well. He wound up allowing six runs in four innings and Mitch Garber. Got the best of him the two he likes this look for left-center peel that what t- toward the gap that ball is gone. Mitch Garber as Homer twice in his first two at bats against the wrong. Let's wins him it three home runs, and including back to back here in the third and it's five to one Minnesota from WCBS. You're going to hear the shock fans at city field. They're not used to that on a day when two grand pitches. Minnesota wins fourteen to eight the Astros in the second game of their series down in Houston. George Springer came through for the Astros. Iurie Allen thereto sound as heels camp racing around camp to the plate. Catch scrambles back to third. That made it five three in the Astros won six three that call from. Boop. Shabby the legend on television, free SPN, the raise played the White Sox. Tampa Bay red hot in Austin meadows. Head a huge day goes runner. The pitch smug on live all deep into right center. That's got a chance to go outta here. Homerun for Austin meadows on a one one pitch with Dobbins breaking meadows hits it out to right center. Second hole. Rondo the inning here for the raise? Suddenly becomes not three broad ending and a four Rodley Austin meadows with four hits in this ten to five victory that call from the raise television network. We mentioned the Red Sox. They were at home against the Toronto Blue Jays they got their rings. But once the game started the problems continued Chris sale didn't last very long. But when he was on the mound. This happened. And now, it's a steal of. This. Florida's Guria junior catches the Red Sox, napping and steals phone. That'll change the spirits of the Blue Jays dug out. Everybody was upbeat. Everybody was said, hey, we're going to be all right. But look at the break at thirds says working out of the windup Perio had broken down the line a couple of times in this at bat, and he never hesitates. It's not even close. Dan schulman? Buck Martinez on the Jay's television network. The final score their Toronto seven Boston five. Cain. The day the game of the day Bryce Harper facing his old team the Washington nationals facing his old teammate, Stephen Strasburg. And this is what happened early on. Back then soda. Three. Shane billy's. Take one. When he does that. When you go that way, we. Careful. Yeah. That from Tom McCarthy on the Phillies television network, Bryce, Harper homering office, teammate, former teammate, Stephen Strasburg, and it looked like the Phillies weren't control this game. They've got a lot of momentum lately. But you know, what Washington would come back with help from one of the youngsters. Rug place to left lifting one deep Singh you wider. Title game. Down to their last drink. My. Sit down Victor. How about that votes? This is some kind of gave here. Philadelphia victim roadways with two strikes. Do outs of the night ties it up with overrun Bob carpenter f p Santangelo on mass and Stanic. I think like a lot of people. I like to be right. I'm feeling really good about my victory blitz. National League rookie of the year pick. What do you think so far so good? Although Pete Lonzo for the Mets look out. You're right. You're right. Probably he would win it. If they had the vote today, but thankfully, Victor Ovezov to a really good start to we his effort to make my pick. Look good. They played into extra innings top of the tenth inning. And this happened dosier second ran Donut. I the one on breaking ball. Lasted pride what stay fair it's way back there. And it is gone. They three wrote home or at a second deck like down the line wants soda gives the nationals the lead in extra innings would a Titanic three run shot. His second of the year that from the nationals radio network what a big win for Washington over Philadelphia ten to six. Welcome to the show. Welcome to the show Wilkinson ship them to the show. Welcome to the show. Welcome to the show. Maybe you weren't in the show with TV show in fees. Show. Bill covers baseball free SPN. He was at Fenway park yesterday to see the Red Sox Chris sale, and we'll certainly get to that conversation a moment. Dave, welcome. Good morning BUSTER. I every time. I hear that open. I'm like, I wish I had a voice like that guy. Yeah. That would be a good one. But you standing back me up on this. Did you notice that Josh like threw himself into that open? Like, there was all kinds of like welcome to the show. Welcome to the show. And then at the back end just kinda just I think because he wanted to be a part of it because it was such a good open. You know, it'd be the case. But poster I gotta tell you sometimes in production when you're producing things you just need that one extra voice in if it has to be ours. You can't find somebody else. You just yourself Sylvan there. I get it. I'm a team. Josh. No, he was taking a selfie, right? In the middle of the pile of people that had nothing to do with him. I mean, let's face it with the way that he, you know. Do you hear that debut agree with me? Did you hear Josh's voice? I can see that. It's like the backup singer that secretly wishes. He was the lead singer of the guy on the front of the stage or something. Exactly. Right. You and I are going to be talking about the Red Sox. They mentioned we'll talk about a playoff team from two thousand eighteen that's in trouble. But let's start with a team. That's kind of a pet project for you the Seattle Mariners in full disclosure. I'm doing today's podcast INA Mariners at that. I acquired I was out in Seattle a couple of weeks ago and do that in honor of our long lost friend. Josh macrey who likes to wear caps during these tapings. But let's talk about the Mariners there eleven into the first team in baseball to win double digit games this year. They got plus forty run differential. That's the best in baseball. Dave out homered their opponents. And this number jumped out of me thirty three to thirteen. They got a team. Oh, PS S nine forty two. Jay, Bruce has seven homers. They're killing it. So I sent out a poll today because of. Of course is during the course, the winner of the conversation was about whether or not the Mariners were tanking. And instead they have some of the most gaudy offensive numbers in baseball. So I sent out the question or are they season-long contender or they a pretender? And before we get to your answer. What do you think of the Mariners? It's impressive. I think going into yesterday. The end homered more than the entire ale. Central combined that stand up after last night. But yeah, Jay Bruce nine hit seven of them for home runs. It's insane. You know, Dee Gordon Malik Smith aren't hitting home runs, but they're sparking kind of the lineup, you know, with their speed. And there are stealing some bases. Look. I it's an unbelievable start. It's fun for the Mariners fans who didn't expect anything this year. So if the minimum there at least they're going to have a good fund couple of months. Do you think that the American League is top heavy enough where when the Mariners play the bottom half of the league, not the top half when they play the bottom half of the league that they could actually do noth- damage to be relevant in midseason. Maybe that's that's one reason. I thought they might have a chance to be a five hundred team at the. Third of the season. You know? You can't based too much on one series. The White Sox. They looked like a pretty bad team. When I watched some games, the royals clearly aren't going to be very good. Yeah. So you still have the ale central has probably three week teams. I know Detroit's op too. Good start. Toronto looks pretty bad. Baltimore, obviously, isn't it? Yeah. If you clean up on those bad teams, right? You never know. What can happen? Yeah. Exactly. So I sent out that poll question a few hours ago sixteen to one hundred and five votes. Seventy five percent say pretender only twenty five percents say season-long contender. You take issue with that? No, I they're probably a pretender, you know, they're not going to keep hitting home runs on a record setting pace. There's not a lot of depth in the rotation. The biggest concern obviously is the bullpen. That's kinda held together. So far, I think they have five different guys with saves because they don't really have a real closer back there. So at some point once the injuries to pile up you start playing all these games without all the off days. I think the lack of depth on the pitching staff will come back to bite them. But on the other hand, you know, Markle Gonzales four, no, you say coochie, really good, Mike Leakey's. Mike leake is going to give you thirty. Okay. Starts, you know. And maybe if they're really lucky they get Justice Sheffield coming up at some point. And maybe Justin done, and they have the potential to reinforce that rotation. If needed. Yeah. And you know, that they're potentially some major issues when I take issue with the fact that you say the bullpen is the weakness, I think the defense is the weakness. Yeah. Eighteen errors in thirteen games. And that doesn't look like it's going to get better to anytime soon. Kyle Seager is probably their best infield defensive player. He's not going to be around for a while. And they're going to have to overcome that if they're going to continue to start a hang in there. No, that's really the amazing thing about the start is that infield defense other than Dee Gordon at second is atrocious. So, you know, they're they're force-feeding Ryan at third base. He's not a good first base and let alone at third baseman there. You know, playing Jay Bruce or Encarnacion at first. That's not a good fit. Tim Beckham's made Somare's really outside of Haniger and Malik Smith. Yeah. You know, it's it's really poor defensive team. I mentioned you were in Boston yesterday at Fenway park. They had the elaborate ceremony to ward the championship rings you. Brought back a lot of former champions, whether it's Manny Ramirez or Kurt shillinger. Pedro martinez. They March out the trophies from the past David Ortiz walking out one handing doing the old Odell Beckham junior on the championship trophy from two thousand thirteen and the game starts, and it continues to go bad for the Red Sox. Chris sale didn't last long they stole home plate against him. After the game. He talked about how I don't know if I've ever pitched like this in my life, Alex Cora talked about his team's pitching. He was able to put his away. Blase Ninety-one Ninety-two shows pleasures and ninety four ninety five at the end. But as far as the speed slider literate on consistent, you know, he made some good ones down into varieties. And then he left it in his own. The change was in great job for a team that has been talking a lot that a good job with stripe and in the ball and play that little hit and run play. They're put on with first and second Galvin's, go the other way. So he didn't have too many swings business, and we pay the price. Alex, the to pass balls steal a home. What did you make that eating the way they were able to? Then the second one day they they got crossed up into signs. And then in the last one, I mean, he just yank a fastball. If he does a strike, he's out by by a lot of you know, the kid took a gamble, and he rush, you know, the the pigeon. He he acted you know, and and through the wild pitch, but I feel throws the ball right in the middle. He's up by five feet. I mean, they're aggressive. They're going to try to do that. We knew that they they haven't had too much traffic during the season. But today, they they put pressure on us. And you know, we weren't good at it. They're they're taking advantage of us. You know, slow to play. With with work in the seventh trying to shut it down right there. They still sagging tells does they score then, you know, Galveston still third at the end after they score. But now, we we we have to do a better job of slowing down their running game teams running against us and waiting to mix it up. We saw during the road trip, and we saw it to to again. So Dave I as to number players last year's the Red Sox run the way to winning the World Series about what they liked about Alex score as manager. And so many said, he's honest with you. He certainly was honest after that game. He's not trying to pretend that well. It's still early. He's not trying to paper over the fact that they're not playing very, well, they're three and nine thirty six games behind the Tampa Bay rays. You heard what he said there are broadcast team Carl Ravitch, and Tim coaching and Eduardo Perez said that when they talked Alex beforehand, Alex is talking about how they had played a poorly on defense how they had run the basis badly. Besides the pitching concern so everything going badly for the Red Sox right now. What did you make all that? Yeah. No. You could the the sense of frustration was was obviously obvious. And that's the thing. This isn't just one of those fluky starts where you're losing these one run games. They've been outscored by twenty eight runs. They've been out homered twice. Twenty three to thirteen the rotation. Obviously, he's been terrible. But on the hidden to thirty seven. Yeah. I think in yesterday's game. It was that the lack of controlling the running game that that really frustrated Alex even more than sales performance, you know, three steals the Christian Vasquez to pass balls as it last year's team, as you know, they were so fundamentally sound they did everything. Well, the talent, but they didn't make mistakes. This year's team is just making tons of mistakes on top of just plan poorly. Our friend, Alex pier the Boston Globe. Tweety these numbers out since the introduction of the wild card in nineteen ninety five fifty seven teams part of this year. Good off two three nine starts or worse of those just three five point six percent. Made the playoffs is he noted fan graphs. Still gives a Red Sox. Sixty four percent chance of making the playoffs though. That is down from ninety percent entering the season. You mentioned the running game. And I've been watching it. Oh curious about this as season begins in the pitching has been an issue. And you mentioned the fact that the Blue Jays were so aggressive yesterday. Did you hear the name sandy Leon mentioned in the in the press box yesterday at all because that would be, you know, break glass in an emergency type guy at this point. Yeah. Yeah. He didn't come up after the game. But yeah, I was talking to a couple writers before the game couple of the local beat guys, and they did bring that up not so much with the running game. But is that an effect on the pitching staff because Leone the pitchers loved throwing to him. You know? You know, very good defensive catcher didn't hit it all last year. But was a key part of that team. You know, so yeah, it it's sort of an issue circling around the team on the other hand Vasquez worked with these guys and became the primary starter in the postseason because Leone wasn't hit eight. So I don't know if that's the issue. But it's certainly something that that is being discussed around the team specifically in watching sale. What did you see because I tend to believe that what where we have is a case where because of the long October. They backed up so many of the Red Sox pitchers, and they're just not prepared in. Interestingly Dave, I had a conversation with a couple of dodger players are not gonna name over the weekend in Colorado. And I they asked me about the Red Sox said, yeah, they they were trying to give everyone a little bit more of a breather and having to less work in spring training. And the dodgers were like, yeah. We did that last year. It didn't work. Yeah. We were just behind and we didn't play very well to beginning. Of the season. Yeah. That that could be. I mean sale he said, he feels fine. So, you know, all these for what we know publicly. There's nothing going on here in last year has velocity was lower in April, and he slowly wraps it up. And you know, look yesterday there are seven hits five of them were ground ball singles and one was the blooper. So it's not like the Blue Jays where you know, crushing line drives on the other hand, he is Alex Cora said he wasn't getting swings and misses in fact, he threw eighty three fastballs this year before Billy McKinney. Finally swung and missed at one yesterday. So he's not getting swings and misses on the fastball, and he's not locating it. So he's fallen behind in counts. So he he's frustrated like like the sound clips said he said, he's never pitch this poorly before in his life. But he did leave us in. I'm gonna figure it out. I know who I am. So at this point, it's more frustration. Than than concern is the sense. I got from sale now coming up we'll be talking with Mark Topkin of the Tampa Bay times about the race were playing great one of the other Red Sox competitors in the American League aces not doing so well, the Yankees and they got bad news yesterday. Luis Severino shut down for the next six weeks after an MRI reveal the grey to latte strain on his right side. This of course, in addition to the right, rotator, cuff, inflammation. So it looks like we might not not see him 'til all-star break at the earliest, assuming nothing goes wrong. I kind of moved in my head Dave Luis Severino into the category of who knows? What are you going to contribute in two thousand nineteen? What about you? Yeah. No. I agree. You know, and they're obviously going to be as cautious as possible with him. No desire to rush back. I know GIO Gonzalez. I think he had five or six shutout innings last night and minor league games. So he might be up pretty soon. Obviously, the Dow. Kaikal rumors to the ink is they're only going to heat up with this news. So we'll see what the ankles do with that rotation. Yeah. And they can change your perspective in any time based on, you know, the the conversations that they would have a Scott Boris represents Dallas Kyko. But everything I've been hearing that the Yankees like a lot of other teams not interested in Dallas kaikal on a short term deal because of the draft pick compensation that they would have to give up. Yeah. And maybe they just try to piece together that rotation. I mean to me go her mom's pitch, pretty good. So far, they have to your guns Alice. You know, I think the one concern right now is other than Tanaka. Nobody's pitching deep into the game. So the bullpen is really piling up. The means, and I think they picked up the the losses the last two games. So even that shutdown bullpen has an exactly been completely shut down so far. Boop. Shabby would tell you that I am often guilty of overreacting, captain hyperbole. But I must say I feel like I nail it last week. We acted to what max free did in his first start for the Braves. He was tremendous five and two thirds perfect innings in his first start. And then last night he goes out in Colorado and six scoreless innings again showing curb on the mid seventies. The fastball in the upper nineties a huge differential someone who really looks like that. He's taken the next step forward. Part of this. Great young group of Atlanta Braves starters. Yeah. I didn't see this game because I was driving back from Boston. But I think you'd agree has to be one of the most impressive starts to the season. Coming in Colorado to really good starts in a row. Now, it's a great story because it's kinda felt like he'd been passed up by some of these other pitching prospects in the pecking order the last couple of years started the year in the bullpen. Remember he wasn't in that initial rotation. And he looks really good. So yet great story for him in the Braves. Yes, someone brought this up to me when we had a I had a conversation with him last. I I think Friday after that I start that he had he said, you know, we forget the max freed was what that seventh overall pick in the draft at one point like one point in his baseball life. He was considered to be an upper echelon prospect, and then he went through some injuries and then last year in in and out of the minor leagues up and down a little bit. And it looks like he may have been putting it all together. And the good thing is this Sunday. We got max freed it looks like pitching Jacob degrom on Sunday night baseball pretty excited about that. I said at the top that we're gonna talk about a playoff team in trouble in in. Fortunately, for me, you sniffed it out even before we got Colorado Rockies. So I saw over the weekend. They got absolutely beaten up by the Los Angeles Dodgers, they got all kinds of injury problems. David doll goes to the injured list. In addition to Danny Murphy, who I saw the other days got a splint on his left index finger he's not close to being back in their lineup in early on their outfield defense looks like it could be a major problem in. Desmond playing center field in part because Charlie Blackman's defensive metrics fell so far last year. And then the game we saw on Sunday. He when he faced the dodgers he made three or four mistakes. Charlie looked uncomfortable in right field. This looks like a team that really has a lot to overcome at this point. Yeah. In Kyle Freeland in her mind Marquez who I was really high on entering the year. They've had good first starts not is so good. The second and third time's around Marquez pitch last night. Yeah. I heard bud black on MLB radio yesterday. And the whole interview was just running through the injury list. So that's bad news. And that is as well as free pitched last night. Look at this lineup. You know, Daza toppy f- went is Wolters. I mean, that's for you know, three or four basically triple eight players and that starting lineup is they're they're so banged up right now. Well, and I felt like part of the reason why I didn't pick the Rockies to make the playoffs. Because then I love the fact that they were. Able to re-sign Nolan are not oh, you love the idea that he could be there Cal Ripken spent his whole career there. But I also think that waiting to see whether or not that could happen and holding back the resources meant that they didn't do a lot upgrade this team in the off season. No, they really didn't do anything. And. Yeah, I think counting on Ian, Desmond to play center field. I know he played there. You know, basically the one year with with the Rangers. But he's also I think thirty three you don't see many thirty three center fielders. So that's risky. Not just whether he can play there. But he's also an older player anyways. So yeah, that's a concern. And like you said with black men not looking comfortable in the corner. That's not a good sign is Trevor story who had a monster season last year is he gonna put up the same kind of numbers. So I'm with you of last year's playoff teams. They're the team right now with the most red flags you heard yesterday's podcast. Boop, Sean be talked about. The coverage of Chris Davis. And he mentioned that it felt a little out of context to to be throwing each of his at bats on live national television as he approaches record for most consecutive at bats with that hit it's up to forty nine. He didn't play yesterday. Wouldn't be surprised if he plays today. Boot feels like the coverage is a little bit mean, what do you think, you know? So that was my first thought that's a really good point. But then I kind of realized well, it's not to a non baseball fan. That's a pretty fascinating story. That's going on. I know we're so deep into the game. Right. Okay. Chris Davis wasn't good last year. This isn't a huge shock that. He's struggling like this. But to the casual sports fan or the one that's doesn't pay a lot of tension to baseball. You hear that? Yeah. Wow. Most hitless at bats ever. I can see why it sort of has picked up some steam, you know, in the sports world the agree with me that. Once he gets hit the oil should just turned the page and move on. Yeah. I mean what what was the last good year? He had you know, he was terrible last year. He wasn't good in two thousand seventeen. So. Yeah, it's time. You know, you got to flush, you know, the history of the the nice run they had there because those guys are gone that team doesn't exist. Yeah. It's time to let them go. Dave, thanks for doing this. All right BUSTER, we'll be speaking with Paul indicators. But I baseball tonight is sponsored by seeking the ticket industry hasn't changed in a long time. 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That's one of the biggest dates he in baseball history yet you think of that. Well, I think that him with a little groggy. We know he doesn't drink coffee. Maybe coughing would have benefited him that morning, but in my judgment, it is the most significant milestone in the history of American sports Aaron never hit fifty homers in a season as you well know, something twenty nine different players have done a total of forty five times. But he did hit twenty homers twenty different times. And that's a record that stands to this day and the raiders acknowledged his consistency. Both there he garnered MVP votes in a record nineteen different seasons. Remarkably and in doing some Hank Aaron research lately, I came across. The quote that I think best sums up his pursuit of the all time home run record. Amidst death threats in extraordinary scrutiny. He said, I don't want them to forget Ruth. I just want them to remember me. That was a great quote. I remember reading that for the first time, and I totally agree with you. I do think it's the most significant record in professional sports history in the United States just because of what it meant at that time. And boy there was just so much pressure on him going into that spring training is seven hundred thirteen after hitting a bunch in nineteen seventy three and then for him to get it out of the way the way that he did opening day tying the record. And then breaking it in that game on April eighth pretty amazing stuff. All right you and I are both obsessed with max free than how his first two starts. What do you think? Yes. The brace obviously, both they failings of talented young arms, but free has himself as the best and most polished in that group, and you've Tiffany off to two reasons why I he mixes velocity with extraordinary effectiveness freeze forcing fastball and curveball account for eighty six percent of his pitches. The average velocity of his four seamer is ninety four point four and his curveball averages seventy. Five point four that nineteen mile per hour difference ranks fifth among all stores that use both pitches. The average difference for context is thirteen point eight league wide. Secondly BUSTER he is wildly efficient and does not waste pitches. In two starts only twenty three of one hundred seventy eight pitches that's less than thirteen percent have registered as noncompetitive meeting eighteen or more inches from the center of the strike zone. The average rate league-wide is nearly seventeen percent. He's always had control. But he is quickly matured into a pitcher with outstanding command. Yeah. Hembo, Email me those stats because I'm gonna use them on Sunday night baseball. You got got him against shakeup to Graham. I know you get some thoughts on Chris Davis. So with when it comes to Chris Davis. We have talked all like for the last week or two about whether or not the, you know, the the Orioles should cut bait. But I'm of the opinion that especially considering how much money you're paying him and considering how much worse he's making your team at a time in which you are clearly not going for it that it actually benefits the Orioles. Keep on. The roster and put him in the lineup every single day. If the if the objective of the Orioles season, my God, I can't believe where you're going with this. I can't believe you go and is to obtain the first pick in the draft again, which look they're not fielding a competitive roster there he in the accounts for more than a quarter of their payroll. So clearly, they're not trying in any area other than him except for you know, a relatively small Alex Cobb contract. He he's helping them get there so long as he's not blocking any young players in my opinion. This is the sneaky way to stay as bad as you can possibly stand. So let me paraphrase what you just said about Chris Davis. Chris Davis tool of tanking tool of thanking and I'm going to stand by letting go for one hundred as far as I'm concerned. Oh my goodness. And I know you've been paying attention to the Tampa Bay rays. Yeah. I sure have the staff owns a two point zero six ERA a team through twelve games. The best Mark in the majors by more than half a run. And I've identified three reasons why that Steph has been so good in the early going. I BUSTER they pound the strike zone. The raise ranked fourth in the majors with straightening straight. Percentage after ranking fourteenth by that measure a year ago. And not surprisingly the on the second lowest walk rate after ranking fifteenth last season that's clearly an area that they've improved. Secondly, they don't throw anything straight only twenty eight percent of race bitches this season have been forcing fastballs. That's the third lowest rate in baseball. The league is slugging four ninety one on four seamers at highest Mark against any pitch type and and twelve percent higher than thinkers and cutters. Which the raise us far more frequently when the league's eggs, the raise zag and Thirdly, they're sequencing brilliantly. The raise use of the curveball more than any team in the league and set it up better too. So watch for this Tampa has thrown one hundred and thirty six curveballs directly after a four seamer sinker or cutter at the most in the majors and inet bats ending on those pitches BUSTER opposing hitters or five for forty eight with twenty-seven shouts. Well, I bet you our next guest. Mark Topkin Tampa Bay times will certainly be paying attention to those numbers before you go. You saw the Red Sox on twos. Day in their home opener. What on a scale of one to ten give me your level of concern about Chris sale and scale of one to ten your level of concern about the Red Sox? My level of concern when it comes to Chris sales is close to ten frankly. And when it comes to the Red Sox the team I would put it at five or six that they weren't in the American League east but Sinn fail. I put it at seven or eight the American League east. They have been ninety five games and still finished third in that division because we talked about the raise. And I think the Yankees are gonna hit once half. They're team comes off the injured list. But Chris sale is not himself. He cannot locate arm side and he threw a a lower percentage of his fastballs in the strike zone yesterday than in any start of his career, regardless of of velocity. His fastball keys is breaking stuff like most pitchers he especially and if he's going to be this Radic, especially the front and a huge contract. I would be really concerned about I was a Red Sox fan, especially throwing all that money at him. When you know that money should probably go in Mookie Betts direction. Eventually as Alexkor said he couldn't finish off hitters. Thanks for doing this hitter guys. Geico presents yet another. Voicemail from your roommate? Do about the kitchen turns out when there's a grease fire. You're not supposed to throw water on it wouldn't own right anyways. The fire department is here, and it's totally cool can call back when you get a chance. Geico insurance agency could help keep your personal property protected. Like if danger is your roommates middle name. Visit Geico dot com to see how easy it is to switch and save on renter's insurance. Each time for some inside heat on baseball tonight. Mark top Ken. It's covered the raise or the Devil Rays in every year of their existence for the Tampa Bay times and Mark because that context they wanted to have you on today and then same day when we're talking about all the Red Sox problems. If you look at the American League east, the raise earned first place there six games ahead of Boston already. Given the fact that you've seen the raise for so long. How would you compare the two thousand nineteen team to other versions including that one that made the World Series back in two thousand eight. Interesting question. I think the difference is that there's probably more younger unproven guys on this team. Even though some of the guys in the team, you know, longoria the exception, of course, being his rookie year. But some of those guys have been around they just had played on miserable teams like across Crawford like a BJ Upton. So you have some guys here that, you know, haven't had a full year in the belief yet. I think at the opening of the season they've made one or two roster moves since there were eleven of the twenty five players on the raise roster who had not spent a full season in the big leagues. So the youth is probably what sets it apart. But the comparisons would be it's a team first of all that believes in itself which the team eventually did as we saw. And it just got a lot of moving parts and in Kevin cash to this point. It's done a pretty masterful job of keeping, you know, this rotation of the fielders going using the pitching staff, obviously and their unique ways. So there's a lot of buying. There's a lot of exciting. There's a lot of confidence. And I think those comparisons are pretty. Valid. Yeah. In all winner when I would talk to Red Sox people. They'd always say watch the raise the raise a really good. And when I talked to Yankees people, they'd say watch the raise the raise a really good. I wouldn't blame Red Sox fans for not really noticing raise at the end of last season or the Yankees fans for that matter, but they're turnaround started midway through last year. Yes, it did. And in fact, the PR staff ran some numbers for us the other day, and it's actually pretty amazing since the all-star break the rays have the best record in the American League one tick behind the brewers. And since August, I which which really was the end of the cycle of of turning their roster over because that was the day they traded Archer they create a Wilson Rama's in the days before they traded evolved in met injuries. They're kinda restocking. They also picked up Tommy fan that day since August first the race have the best record in the major leagues. So I think that turnaround absolutely was rooted in last year. And and look BUSTER I I was out there in front of the people ripping them in February. When they were making these crazy moves they traded longoria going into spring training last year first week at spring training odor. Izzy Dickerson Sousa in may Kalemie Denard span in July, the trades. We just mentioned with what are they doing? Well, I think they kind of knew what they were doing. Yeah. And I was curious when snail signed his contract this spring what the impact was on the clubhouse because when all those deals went down in spring two thousand eighteen you had guys in the in the camp being critical of that guys outside of the camp, including Evan longoria. Being critical of what the the rays were doing and this spring. It was different. You know, the guy who is probably at the center of the franchise right now is locked down for years to come. What do you think the impact that was on the clubhouse? It was really an interesting dynamic because your first of all the raise learned a lesson last year that I think other teams would be wise to take heat up which was if holding out for an extra couple of weeks to get into spring training. Maybe gets you a little more. They thought in the trades. And it wasn't worth it cause disruption it caused make your moves before the players get to camp. But the the Snell thing unfolded if you remember he initially got renewed. And and you know, I wrote a few people wrote about that at and you know, how he got such a meagre raise and people were unhappy snow was unhappy other people are unhappy. So the race. To their credit did a really good job of flipping the script on that left in two weeks later, and it did it created a a sense of harmony in the clubhouse. I think you know, a little bit more of that buying. They had already signed. Brandon Lau a few days earlier to contract they they've reached out to a bunch of players. I mean, some of the younger players you had declined or said they didn't want to talk about it now. But this is clearly the next phase for the raise is locking up as many of these guys as they can and snow with each one. And we talked last week about how Snell probably in the conversation. Among the best three pitchers in baseball. I felt like a lot of the contracts that were signed this spring were driven by some of the anxiety over the free agent market. Maybe the momentum starts to build the industry where players like, wait. Where's mine? These guys are getting tens of millions of dollars. How much of that? Do you think factored into his decision to to sign a deal because it certainly sounds like in that first story? I remember reading from you when he talked about the renewal. It certainly sounded like he wasn't that interested it even close to two green to something like this. Now, he really wasn't. He wasn't BUSTER. And you know, the race had tried really on and off over the last three or four seasons since he I kinda got in the picture. We know they like to move early on some of these guys we met more with just a few days in one gory with just a few days of service when they made some of those deals they like to be aggressive with some of their younger players. Blake was interested in you're absolutely right. He told me, you know, going into that renewal that his eyes were on arbitration. That's where he was locked in on dead read with. His exact phrase of going arbitration. So in essence that I'm sure it wasn't exactly this way. But Blake's Dell said he told the race came back to him one more time. And he said he told them what it would take. He didn't want the option years. He would only let them by out one year of free agency. And he said, they agreed to his terms, and they made the deal very cook it helping happened in about three or four days. Jeez. Right after the trade deadline. I heard from folks with other teams who felt immediately that that trade that they made with Pittsburgh up. Chris Chris Archer to the pirates would turn out to be one of the best trades. We've seen in recent years. What do you think? Well, the initial returns are good. I mean, I know Chris Archer didn't have a great second half. Or, you know, the two months when he got to Pittsburgh, and he hit some injury issues as well. But the rays were very happy with Tyler glass. Now, they thought they'd give him the opportunity to pitch and their rotation. He had a miserable spring less than sixteen thousand seven hundred and fifty two and why spring training stats don't matter. He was oh and five with a Tenny RA, and he. Two oh with a zero point eight three I think right now this far into the season. But Austin meadows is the guy that you know, the raise really were betting on these twenty three years old. It was up and down last year with Pittsburgh. The raise kept him at triple eight probably for a little bit of you know, cost control. They're looking ahead. But basically told him coming in spring training, you're going to be on this team. We just want you to go out and play and relaxing shows which you can do and first couple of weeks in tremendous. Obviously the big game yesterday four hits. It was on base actually five times four B is and it's the mellow kid. But a five to a player and I asked glass now about him. He said the first time he saw him playing the minor league game in the Pittsburgh organization. I'm one of the backfield's in Bradenton. He said everybody stopped. He had a ball the gap in legged out of Tripoli everybody in the field. It's like, whoa. What do we got here? I I wanna get your take is again, you you've seen the raise to a lot of work through the years. A lot of it. Inventive. A lot of success successful in the early early years. Not so successful. I wanted to get your assessment of what the front office is done especially in the last year and a half or so with the team that they've put together decisions that they made because I I know this. It's folks with other teams think that their front office work might be the best that we see major league baseball in that time. Yeah. It's really been an impressive turnaround. And look the rave did tremendous things obviously under Andrew Friedman. And then the management on field of Joe Madden in that group. And when they both left, you know, shockingly stunningly after twenty fourteen the race had to regroup a little bit met Silverman initially took over, but he really was kinda running baseball ops until they were ready to kind of put their new team fully in place, which was to promote Eric Neander. And then Heim bloom both guys that started as interns. I mean for all the turns out there you can you can run a Beijing. Years. But there they wanted to rebuild the farm system. They knew the farm system had fallen way off it was bear. They knew the position player inventory was definitely in need of help. They made a lot of trades. And you look at some of those guys they got back in trades. And will you damage is certainly one that jumps out at you right away. And and some of the other moves they made they built that core and Jake Bowers was one and then they turned around and they flipped him. So I think it was a matter of being aggressive of being smart with what they did of being disciplined and sticking their plan. But also still being willing to take chances. I mean, again, the the day of the winter meetings when the Jake Bowers trade was announced I just kept thinking, what am I missing here? What what why did they give up on Jake Bowers and the race put five million dollars in that deal to get ya de they only have two players making more than five million dollars BUSTER, so. Wow. That for them as a huge investment, but they saw something and as and they thought it was worth it. So they're willing to still take some chances and and build this team as they go. They don't really have a closer. Alvarado's gonna get most of the safe chances. But he's pitching the seven thing a couple of times already this year. So they're just doing it their way obviously the opener system and using the reliever to start the game. They're they're doing it their way they're willing to take chances. But they're very smart and what they've done. And you touched on the guy. I wanted to ask you about you wanted to ask you about last Jose Alvarado when you look at his pure stuff to me when you rank the best relievers in baseball right now I'd have Josh hater number one. And I'd have him a number two. What have you seen? It just you know, nasty is probably the polite term. Sick a lot too. And you have to put that in the right context. But you're just the movement and the velocity you don't see that combination that often. Now, the thing with Jose Alvarado that that I think creates a little separation from Josh haters. I think Josh Hader has shown even not in much longer time, but you'll more consistency. Alvarado came in yesterday. He couldn't really find the strike zone necessarily. So you're still gonna have moments like that with him. But you look at some of the, you know, the frame the frames and the video put on Twitter and just watch the movement on a pitch. I mean, he throws a sinker a left handed thinker ninety nine miles an hour that has the movement of a right handers slider and think about that for a second. But it's true. I mean, it really is. And and, you know, there was a clip floating around on MLB Twitter the other day, and that that was literally everyone you showed it to said the same thing that looks like a right hander slider, and it was a left-hander sinker. So I it's a combination of youth movement, and he's still wants to get better too. So I think he is a guy. Who is going to emerge as a star level player? I appreciate a Mark of sure we'll be talking to you through the year because they certainly look like they have staying power. You got it. Anytime BUSTER always enjoy it. Bleacher tweets. All right. Let's get to the Bleacher tweets we have to tweets from the same tweeter. We'll do those first for counter of bratwurst at nice kayak kayaking Smith. I think is the name kayaking Smith looks right eater. Bratwurst? Love. It BUSTER fights are reported to solidify clubhouses how much of the two touchdowns that the reds put up on the Marlins should be attributed to David bell. And yes yelp. We should they just fight every other night. Now before answer this question. I think this is the same Bleacher tweeter, they kind of gave you a hard time right with the way that you read his name or was that Josh where it was like Josh read the name is K a king Smith. And I think I saw a tweet like, hey, dude kayak why hasn't me? But looking at the name, I could see how might screw that up. The kayaking actually came to me halfway through reading it. Probably checking. Awesome. I love the. Yeah. Have been Josh that you gave the hard time to. Yeah. I think the Marlins had more to do with the reds doing. Well. Then the fight they had on Sunday. I never really believed in the whole thing about fights pulling players together. I think that's a nice narrative. That sounds good after you win a couple of games after fight. Yeah. Reminds me of NBA coaches getting a technical foul to Mariah team. I don't think that's always the reason they get technicals. All right tweet. Number two from eater of bratwurst at kayaking Smith BUSTER what's going on in back bay losing to the Jays in their home opener to secure sole possession of last place. Sure, they're loaded but could Boston get off to such a bad start that they can't recover at. What point do they have to make some changes? I did think it's a concern. And I think everything we heard from Alex Cora reflects that concern he's not running from it. I as I mentioned, I am going to be curious to see if internally there started talking about sandy Leone a little bit who's playing in triple eight for them. He's accessible anytime they want, and we know that he struggled at the at the plate last year. We noted isn't throw that. Well, but he might be a comforting presence for the Red Sox bitching. Steph when they need it from Jason Emeco at Jason Emeco after Billy Hamilton's mad dash from second on sac fly on a sack fly yesterday versus Seattle who's the greatest based runner you've ever seen in. How would they have fared today? Also, why do some teams continue to run like the eighties cardinals? But most teams don't infrared disease. I know sabermetrics. Yep. That's exactly right to you answer Joan question there that teams that believes in analytics don't believe in giving up outs and the bases. The best base run of all time. There's no question about this. It's Ricky Henderson the that. He's got what like six hundred more stolen bases in any other player. And I love conversations with players today. And they talk about the numbers that Ricky put up as a guy stealing bases. And they can't believe that he physically held up all those years because of the way would slide how strong he was he was a. I know he wasn't like two hundred and forty pounds. But he was a solid in a solid two hundred Pounder going in head first every time, and he did it as whole career. It was amazing from drew Allen. The drew abides. Hey BUSTER on the Tuesday podcasts. You talked about the Astros hill that was unique to that stadium which current unique stadium quirk is your favorite. It's gotta be the green monster. I built a green monster growing up in Vermont when I was a kid out in our backyard. I think it was like four planks and some bird netting tacked up on top. What do you think standing ov impressed? I wish there was pictures of that. I know from Thomas house at Tom's we party. Hey buster. And Josh given the recent broke bullpen disaster. Which of these is more likely to happen. I Chris Davis gets a hit or the royals. Get a win. So Dan, do you think that it's mean if I even answered the question we're talking about Chris Davis? No, it's not. I mean, I understand boots point from yesterday. But I don't think it's me your dancer. This guy would agree with you. I think Chris Davis is going to get a hit before the the royals get a win. Okay. And you guys know the drill. If you want your voice heard on this podcast. Very simple. Send your tweets using the hashtag Bleacher tweets. That's it for today. My thanks to Mark Topkin to Paul in bikinis. Today Sean field into Daniel stands. It has been filling in for Josh macrey this week have a great day everybody. Thanks for listening. Thanks for listening to the baseball tonight podcast if you'll claim fantasy baseball tell forget to listen to the fantasy focus podcast checkout all podcasts at ESPN dot com slash pod sicker. Baseball night, the podcast.

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Raise An Orange Flag

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And they gave me a number, and I want to say it was seventy six and I was like under under what would be your over under number on your Blue Jays. Oh, I'm hammer in the under on seventy six. I'd put it more like seventy three and a half. I when I might be wrong. It might be that it was there. I see I think I think the number of wins for them. This year is going to start with the number six. I don't think there's any way around that. When you're in the same division is two superpowers. Baseball's got three superpowers Red Sox. Yankees Astros to them in there in the division plus the Tampa Bay rays. So you actually think they could win more than seventy games. Yeah. I don't I don't see why not what did they win last year. I'm gonna take a look right now. I think they had about seven they want Seventy-three last year. I mean, the Orioles one forty seven so that how chance I guess you get yet. Nineteen games against the Orioles will help your Blue Jays the hammer dander now, that's all I'm gonna say take hammer the under. I'm taping the podcast, by the way today in the lobby of our hotel in Seattle. So in case, you think you hear elevator music in the background. That's because it is elevator music. Some of the news and notes of the day Diamondbacks. Outfielder Steven Souza junior is out for the year after tearing up as knee. We'll be talking about that we call Ravitch in about the root cause of what happened in this. Crazy freak injury the Cup. Sign pitcher Kyle Hendricks to a four year extension. He's guaranteed sixty three million dollars through two thousand twenty three season. Kyle Hendricks sitting alongside THEO Epstein talking about the extension. First and foremost one thing Tom the rest of the Ricketts family for putting our faith in me. And then again, THEO. Oh jet, Scott, all work. You guys did getting to this point with me. I can't thank you enough for just knowing you're betting on me. Putting your faith in me. And you want me to be here. And I love everything about being Chicago Cubs. I love everything about the city about the fans and especially about my teammates in clubhouse. And that's where my focus is asked. So as much as I will rebel and be excited about this. Our focus one hundred percent is on Thursday and this season. That's why I told the guys in there. And I just want to be with them as long as I can. And hopefully, this starts a trend where this group can say together in large part, but just for me individually again, I'm I'm just so blessed to be able to to get this amount to build play a game. You know that I just loved growing up with kids. So at the end of day, again, just wanna turn the focus to the season and focus on task at hand to win the World Series Arab Bill was on the Michael case show as we get closer to started the Yankee season that'll be one o'clock on ESPN on Thursday, they faced the Baltimore Orioles. And he was asked the question are you better than last year? I think we all are. I mean, look I was sitting here last year thinking we were really good. And and obviously we were but I do feel like we're a deeper club. And you know, even with some of the injuries significant guys were talking about being down right now. I still feel like we're in a really good place and able to cover that maybe more so than we were this time last year hater form owner the Braves concluded spring training in style. So pay off bitch coming slow Amman and it high. Hi. Field. That's pretty deep Keanu and Gordon backtrack wall. It's a grand slam told you grades walk and do finish the spring at five hundred. Tell you what do Pedro almost past Ortega or space or take back attack. But what a way to end this, Greg. Pedro forum on with a walk off grand slam since the Braves to Philadelphia on the highest of high notes chip, Gary Jeff rancor with the call on the Braves television network. We will have the Braves and the Phillies on Sunday baseball this weekend. The Colorado Rockies apparently ready to go first baseman for the Rockies here this afternoon. At least at the start of the game. Center-field bucks to build back still going back and that ball is gone. Murphy with a two run home. And it's nothing Colorado. Good solid. Swing by Murphy. Stride by Murphy, just little bit of a weight shift, and he. Another tremendous season for Erin auto. I deep left field. Going back is resigned. Newsradio. And that ball is. Gone whole front for Nolan Aaron auto just over the wall. Just out of reserves does reach at it's three to nothing while Murphy more of a line drive type hitter Aron auto they expect this to happen on off his bat. Of course, the voices of dick Bremmer and burp lie Lebanon, the twins television network. Yeah. Danny Murphy, no-one are not going back to back. We might see that some during the course of the year match happen over the Oakland Athletics is arguably the best defensive player in baseball. And he showed some of that against the giants on Tuesday night. The long run for both Hundley and Chapman's going to get there. Checkmated pulled off one of those miracle plays that he seems to pull off once again. That's a great blood. That is a very very good play. It'll make your smile ubique like that. That's the big enough to. Join Kuyper micro on NBC sports bay area. Julio Arrhenius of the dodgers is ready to go. I get a pitching highlight given listen to to. Got. For the first out of the night. Get some swinging six up six down for Julio Maria some Twenty-one fitches, let's the one to fly now gets Borjas swinging. Just puppet a fastball ninety six that's I've right by. Breaking ball. It's Marsh swinging to a to down to the fourth. Symond spent a lot of that tonight about four four fix innings for Julio reassess on forty two pitches. Ajay's ready? He is ready. He was tremendous. Joe Dave's that call the dodgers television network in stands, you know, what I'm mum pitching highlights that I love that was one of the better ones because the top of the MIT was so unique you could hear it. You could feel it. Yes. Yes. I also got to give credit to Joe Davis. I think it's all about when it comes to pitching highlights. It's all about the play by play guy 'cause you can get caught up conversation and the television broadcast, but if you're actually still calling the pitches when there's two strikes, and you can get the strikeout call it helps for our cut ups. Absolutely. We talked in the podcast on Tuesday about the interesting situation with Padre superstar prospect for Nando tat tease junior and the question whether or not the Padres would have him on the roster to start the year, or if they would manipulate service time, while his father told reporters, he's son will beyond the big league team to start the year. Let's get to it. It's the Revie trick with Carl Ravitch. Corriveau Gorz the host the baseball tonight and play by play man for ESPN and Karl where are you going to be on Thursday? We're going to be in New York and unlike last year when I literally drove down there, I saw the goals on the stadium that said Yankee Stadium, and then they got an Email that said the game cancelled tomorrow will be sunny and around fifty five degrees. So we are we are locked and loaded and cannot wait to start the season on the little not disappointed. But I remember when we closed the podcast last week. I said next time you, and I talk in the podcast we will be one day into the regular season. And as a result, we switched here. So we have not really had any games played on the United States soil in in major league baseball season. So this is this is a little earlier than we thought. But I'm happy to go. I'll lead things off. I'm ready. Let's do it. Yeah. But let's start with this. I understand the forecast is for fifty five degrees. Can you? Call Tim Kirk enough to convince him that there might not be a snowstorm. So he doesn't have to go into the parking garage at three o'clock in the morning. Well, here's the great great part about this is I will see Tim tonight. We will be in New York, we will have dinner together. And I will drive him to the ballpark. We will be. Yeah. At eight thirty AM eastern time tomorrow, I told him we will leave the hotel at eight ten and that that sent him into a panic, and I will leave at seven. So we will be in a car together at seven AM. We will be at the ballpark around seven twenty three's for one hour and then warm up as we get set for a major league baseball game. We we cannot wait. This is this is right there BUSTER is you know, on great days of of the year opening day like this. Great great great day. Love it can't wait for it. We of course, outta here in Seattle. Have the Mariners and the Red Sox on Thursdays? Well in the seven o'clock, it think it starts eastern time. Four o'clock local time, let's get through some of the news and notes today. I'm going to give you some really strange analysis. The Padres decision with Fernando tetechies junior is a great blue for baseball Carl. No question about it. And within the current context. It's a bad baseball move because they will exhilarate his free agent clock. When a time when other teams are not it puts the Padres at a competitive disadvantage because they're not service time in emulating in the way that other teams are, but I love it. And I love the. Paddock under opening day roster. How about you? Yeah. I'm getting the sense that a lot of the things that are going on in baseball with regards to contracts and decision like this has to do with what they believe the future will be which will be two in some ways mitigate if not eliminate roster manipulation that the younger players will be eligible for free agency earlier, I think this is one I on we just committed three hundred million dollars to Manny Machado. We've got to convince all are vying public here that we are serious about winning now and with an eye towards we don't think that this sort of roster made up Yele shit is going to be as prevalent as it is now in the future. And if if we're going to take the cues from these signings of these young players now to longer term deals before they reach free agency. He feels. Was like one of those guys like it, Alex bregman and others that in two years or three years we will try to pay him anyway. And he'll never really or we will never have to or he will never have to worry about saving another year of free agency for the team. So I think it has to do with the president as well. As what I believe all major league baseball teams think the future will look like with regards to a CBS. That's that's my feeling about it. Yeah. With Sarah Langston out this no yesterday Nando tat. He's junior will be twenty years eighty five days old on opening day. The last player that young to play on opening day was Adrian trae in one thousand nine hundred nine at age nineteen three hundred and sixty three days old. And it's you you mentioned Karl it absolutely makes sense for the Padres to do this. After you push all that pilot chips on Machado into the middle of the table. They clear from ownership. They are trying to win. And if you're trying to win Chris paddock is one of your best starting pitchers. Your team is better off Fernando tat tease junior playing shortstop at the beginning of the year. It's right for the organization. It's right for the fans. It's right for the player. It has always been the right thing to do. I mean, if you are sincere about putting your best foot your best team forward. You put the best players on the field. He is one of the best players in major league baseball for a kid that age, let alone the Padre organization. It makes perfect sense. I'm excited for him. I think it helps the NL west great deals. I think it helps major league baseball a great deal when you have a young kid with all this talent. We should have seen it last year in Toronto. We should see it again in Toronto. So yeah, I I hope other teams take the cue. I again, I I don't think this is going to be something that we see down the road with a new CBA. This is the most backwards asinine way of thinking not putting your best player. On the field. It does it make sense. It's not good for the sport. And I talked on the podcast yesterday related. The story of Francisco indoor telling me how he was watching for Fernando TAT's. He's junior taken at bat. And he was so impressed with the adjustments that he made. So now we're going to get to see him in the big leagues and continue to make adjustments staying in the National League West even Sousa junior of the Diamondbacks. Terrible news. He will undergo season ending surgery to repair an ACL tear and tear, partial tear and stereo lateral capsule tear in his left knee. This announcement made by Tori Lavelle. Oh, the manager of the Diamondbacks in Carl. This is one of the strangest injuries I've ever seen where he's just running home. And there's not even a contested play. And he steps on home plate and his foots slips on the slick surface of home plate and his knees completely destroyed it obviously as a career altering injury, potentially. And look, I'm the captain of we need to change this. We need to fix. This and I over reacted with that stuff. We saw this happened with Bryce Harper a few years ago when he stepped on the surface of first base, and he got hurt. I really hope that baseball looks into the idea of let's look into whether or not we can make the surface of basis tacky to avoid situations. Like this to perhaps helpless situations like this because that injury made no sense. No. It didn't the the one base though, that you would assume that something like that wouldn't happen is home plate relative to the other basis bent raised and all that and you're making hard cuts home plate. You're not cutting. Usually you're sliding or you're just stepping on it. So that's the one that you wouldn't think. But yes, I mean technology allows us now when material gets wet that it actually becomes stickier as opposed to slippery or it would be nice to see though to to me. It would be nice to see the bag either moved in. Fallow territory at first anything to prevent an unnecessary injury. Where the integrity of the play is not going to be affected. And I and again, I do believe that the current crop of people that are running major league baseball at the very least agree or disagree with some of the things they do they do have the the best interests of the game. Which means the best players on the field. Which means the few were injuries that we can help eliminate. We will do we need to have our best players playing the game not getting hurt because they slipped on on a base, let alone home plate. I in Souza's case. This does feel very freakish. If this happened at first base or second or third I think the cries for what you're talking about would be greater. But this was a really weird one where you're stepping and sliding across home plate and your foot get. Stuck in the dirt? I I'm not sure I'm not sure what you would have done to prevent that. That that one just seems to be a little different than the the Harper play or other plays where ankle rolls or they slip off the base or or even they extend towards it. And their ankle gets jammed because it's two inches off the ground. This feels just terribly unfortunate almost like last year when he ripped tech muscle in spring training. It's it's it's a terrible break for him in the team. Yeah. And I'm sure you've got a chance to talk to him at one point or another. There are no degree baseball player who's a bigger bigger fan of baseball than Stevens junior. And you just devastated for him that this happened as you say just a freak injury before we go into some of the other notes I want to go back to yesterday. The Jacob degrom deal. I felt like that. Once the Mets decided not to take offers form last season. Once they hired Brodie van wagon to crumbs agent to be their general manager. They had no choice, but to get this deal done. And I mentioned in the podcast yesterday. Talked about on some of the shows yesterday morning before the news broke that in talking with agents and executives other teams. They were saying, yeah, they'll get any time because they have to they have no choice. What was your take on that deal? You know, the the reducing it to they had no choice to to me as an organization why you didn't have to do it. Now, you could have waited another year give it all that's going on giving who he is given the lack of injury given the person given the organization he's been with from the beginning. Like, I I don't look at it like they had to I think they should have all along got this deal done. And this was this natural conclusion, you know, a given what we've seen in major league baseball. And who this guy is again similar to the Padres. And the decision they made with techies if you're the Mets and Brodie van wagon is very serious about winning this. None only, you know, locks up one of the best pitchers in all of this ball. But it again, I the these messages to the organization. And the fan base are important. You could have waited you would've looked Kimsey. And they right now are fighting that reputation. Let's pay the guy of anybody on just team anyone on the team deserves a deal like this at has earned it. It's Jacob degrom. I I went out with Michael k yesterday and he and the Don McGregor. So they've been fighting with Mets fans and their point was they could Wade the year. And I just I didn't sure they could've I don't think that would have been the right thing to do and any player especially pitchers, but any player is subject to getting hurt. I'm not going to wait the year. See him win twenty games or get hurt and regret doing this decision minutes. This to me is literally no brain decision on. I would have done. It would have done it last year. That's how much I that's how strongly I feel about taking. And Carl I feel like that if they had waited let's say the Mets organization, the leadership decide, you know, what we're not gonna do that. There would have been a lot of ramifications. I think as what happened with John Lester and the cubs. This would've turned into with the Red Sox excuse me when the Red Sox low ball, John Lester, it became a competition in John Lester was pissed off. And he went forward, and it became a competition. And he wasn't going to resign there. I think it absolutely would have undercut the credibility of Brody entailing with this obvious conflict complicated issue. How would the players look at Brody moving forward in their eyes. You know, someone who used to represent us. Now, he's on the other side of fence. And I think it would have been cancerous in that clubhouse, and we've got a taste of that the other day, Noah Syndergaard. Yes, we did. And the other part of this. And I agree with what you just said. One hundred percent is the one thing that ground has done is gotten better. So if we are as an organization can lock up do that his showed he's getting better, and we don't and he goes out and wins twenty because our plan is to win a lot of games, and he wins twenty six with an area of one nine his strikeout. Numbers are great doesn't get hurt. We we may have also just cost ourselves like the cost benefit analysis of locking up. Jacob degrom seems to a really heavily in favor of locking him up as opposed to worrying about an injury. Or you know, this just dynamic of holy crap. I if he has a huge season it's going to call. Us. Millions more let let's do this now. Because as I said to you the last time, we're putting our cards in we believe strongly in Jacob degrom. This to us is a good bet. And we're making the bet and we're gonna ride to grow. We got word is the podcast was wrapping up yesterday. The major league baseball is suspending Larry Baer, the CEO the giants for a half season and Carl when this news first broke when that first videotape emerged I wondered what baseball would do if you remember the initial response was merely an acknowledgement of the incident without even mentioning him by name, and I thought oh boy Larry's a powerful person in baseball. It might be that he's not going to get the sort of discipline that perhaps a player would in a similar situation. But in the end, I think baseball did the right thing. I think baseball did exactly what it had to do because you can't have different standards for highly powerful people in baseball and the players, and I thought this was exactly the sort of thing sort of penalty the baseball had to come down with. How did you feel? Yeah. I think you actually can have different standards, and I think they showed different standards when you have a leader of an organization a front facing, you know, team president or Representative to major league baseball from what organization we actually are holding those people to end even higher standard, you know, Audrey go. There's this. There's this fascinating case going on with craft and the NFL, and it's gonna be interesting to see how that plays out. But in this case, the one thing that I you know, and I think most people have recognized and I wonder if you agree with this. But when when you're Commissioner his foundation is in the law. I have I have seen a fairly consistent pattern of meeting out penalties when some law in a sense, even if it's just a baseball law, but if it is a federal law or a local law has been broken violated. It doesn't matter who you are what the organization is what you've represented to the game. You literally now need to recognize you're going to serve time for your crime and similar to the Ray rice situation when there's video it's indisputable. I know Larry is embarrassed by what happened. It was a terrible thing to watch. So I think baseball has proven when it comes to violations of the law or a person or an assault. They're very very serious and seemed to be able to peel away of the name the face the organization the role and say you've done this. Here's the penalty for it. And and now we have precedent for executives. You're you're going to be punished a little steeper may be than players. I want to get three quick ones from you before we get to your prediction. So give me thirty seconds on each of these re topics. I Kyle Hendricks gets long-term deal with the cubs. I feel like at a time when the cubs they move forward questions about their starting pitching. What are they going to get out of Darvish? How will Lester age Kyle Hendricks is kind of like the plow horse that staff and love the deal for the team. Love the deal for him. What do you think? Yeah. See this one on the little I think he's gonna be really good. And this is where you get into your analytics, and I made the point yesterday on Chicago radio when you take a Chris sale or you take even Greg Maddux. Who was once they power pitcher? And you invest in them for four or five years. We've seen a lot of power pitchers. Become very good pitchers. I I would need to understand the on his ability to give you innings in a sense. What what new trick is Kyle Hendricks going to come up with the in year three four or five of this deal. That allows me to believe he's still going to be able to get guys out at at a more advanced age so three years. I would understand a longer one to not that that would be my question. And like, I said, I'm I'm that's my opinion. The cubs certainly know a hell of a lot more than I do about the the analytics and him as a person, but. Again that that's my that's my one reservation. This is not somebody who was going to have to recreate himself. And a lot of times the recreation from power guy works really, well, what is he going to come up with? It's going to allow him in year four and five to fool people. You know what I mean? Yeah. Oh without a doubt because he has less margin for error. It was the same question that hovered over Jamie Moyer free gear in years and years. How is he going to get people out throwing eighty one miles an hour. Carlos correa. It looks like it's going to miss opening day because of lingering next nip this this is a playroom back issues last year. Carl this concerns me. Yeah. No. I would I would put a an orange flag up. I wouldn't raise the red one. But I'm not gonna just go with yellow there. There's some great caution here, especially for somebody that young who's that impactful and that important in an organization to come off of a year in what you were banged up and now sturdy year with some lingering lingering bad word when it comes to injuries. If something lingers, it almost in a sense means that it never really cleared up where we haven't been able to figure out what's causing it anything that lingers generally is not a good thing. There's two adages BUSTER that nothing. Good happens after one AM and anything that lingers when your health isn't a good thing. Yeah. Right. Exactly. When they tell us lingering reminds me when teams say, well, he's got inflammation in his shoulder in his knee. No, you're what what's the source of the information. What's the source of the lingering? And this is where the departure Marlin Gonzalez becomes a challenge. The Astros because you know, lead misty as presumably will take on a greater role. Speaking of former Astros, Dallas kaikal still in signed reminded that doing a radio interview yesterday, and you're like elite he's still out there. My vice the Dallas kaikal be dude signed with the team get get started. Because the longer he stays out at his age. And then get more hurts. And what do you think? This is truly the one even beyond Craig kimbrel because he kind of came out down to demand. I don't understand this. Now, you know, whether the Yankees if Ceferino injury lingers or some other teams, the one commodity where you can be fairly certain teams will eventually need replacements, especially good ones is going to be on the mound. And they're they're clearly we'll be a market created likely in a market in which the team is trying to win as opposed to a team. That's not we just need to fill out a rotation. I don't get this. I I really this is one that. I don't understand. I think he's is he in a sense falls in the Hendrix mode. Like, you're gonna have Dallas or Karl Hendricks. It's the it's like in a sense, the San guys not overpowering you, but all he's ever done is wind. He's a phenomenal guy in a clubhouse. He's a lefty. Yup. He's a winner. I this is what I don't understand. But I do believe almost opposite of what you're saying. If you do wait just think of teams that are that are competitive or believe they can win the their. They can't you know, they have to go and make move to get somebody like that. If you just go around it Severino hurt, but David price gets hurt. Justin Verlander gets hurt who whoever the the organization Clayton Kershaw can't pitch. But one of those teams says we're all in well that was Keiko's out there. That's that's like the Manny Machado edition when Seger got her that he he will have to sign a deal. Some team will have to overpay to to make sure that they are going to remain relevant. I don't I don't get the Kyko when I don't get it at all. I don't. Well. I'd say this in this generation of Terminator general managers, the coal bloodless, general managers. I don't think they would they would necessarily overreact and get emotional. In dealing with an absence of a player in the way that they would have in the past. And I've heard that this spring where people now are beginning to weigh the fact that it's gonna take a long time for him to get cranked up and be major league ready. But what firms of what the officer? Would it be organizations told you that that have looked at him and said, no like what is it about him? Why him that they is it his contract demand? Is if his his aliens is it his what is it? It while at the beginning of the process, and this is going back to last December. Scott bores was telling he represents Kyko was telling people he's looking for six seven year deal for twenty five to thirty million dollars a year. And some of the teams had heard that, you know, pivoted to some of the other guys in the marketplace. And so that was the initial issue now where he stands I feel like it's best for his career. Take your best offer. Now get into a camp get pitching and set yourself up for free agency in the fall. So you want to win. All right. Let's I want a one year deal at this point. Because I don't think he's going to get the story deal. But he may be hope for last December. Right. Gimme your predictions Carl division by division and the wildcard teams I in the American League American League east. That's that's a tough stuff that really could be the Red Sox or Yankees. The other team will be the wild card. I don't have a doubt about that. Oh, come on. Come on step out on a limb. Also, I think I think the Yankees win the division. I think it's just natural that you take a step back. But I like the Red Sox pitching better than I do the Yankees starting pitching. I just don't like their bullpen. I think the Yankees win the Red Sox and rays win a wildcard I think the twins win the American League central and I think the house with the American League West, okay? Yeah. The twins. Certainly the injury concerns that a developer the Indians that nightmare shoe in the twins have gotten and the twins have gotten better who he got the National League. And I do think by the way the White Sox ticket step forward in the National League. I think the east is is just fantastic. I think the nationals are the best team in the National League. I think robe listen center field is great. I love the Corbin edition. I think a lot of those guys in that team. Wanna prove like we like having a guy here. But he's in Philadelphia will show you I think they're going to be. I think they're going to win more games this year than they have. I liked that. I liked the Phillies to win one of the wild card. Cards for sure I think the dodgers win the west. I think the Rockies or the second wildcard. And I I just think the NL central just beats the crap out of each other. And I think I think it prevents you know, a second or third teams from being a wildcard team there. I liked Pittsburgh. I like Saint Louis I like, Milwaukee, I think the cubs win the division. Yup. We agree in that point who's your World Series pick. The I think this is a I think that's the Washington nationals and the New York Yankees. I think we'd go north this year. I think we stick right in that corridor. I think the nationals and the AKIs get there. I think both teams are committed. I think both teams have money. I think both teams can make moves. They didn't spend money on Bryce Harper. They didn't spend money on Manny Machado. If Severino can kinda get a little rest here to start the season Kilby stronger during the months of August September October. You know, there are certain injuries that you worry about your like, we're dead. We're just gonna kill us. And there are other ones where if all these guys are coming back there were championship team. And we'll do the things they need to be a championship team. Yeah. And their schedule early on is a big factor. I think in being able to whether these injuries thirteen their first fifty games against the Orioles six of the person, I'd games against the Orioles and the other three against the Detroit Tigers. So they should get off the really good start. All right, Carl thanks for doing this have flown on Thursday and keep him, you know, just please try to reduce his anxiety level because we know it's already added nine on a scale one that you had to start. We can medicate we have medications for those things we can. They later have a good game. How they're Julie Foudy here. Yes. With silly enough to give me the green light on a podcast, and it's called laughter permitted. We talked to these awesome trailblazers in sports about the joy and chaos of life such as Kerri Walsh Jennings. 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And you you like, I think all the commissioners were skeptical nervous hesitant whatever word one wants to attach. Here. We are a few months removed from that we've seen a little bit of how it's played out in other places and you have a season beginning, right? Where is your head now with regards to that we've opened up some revenue opportunities for us for the clubs principally in the sponsorship area? It's an area where you can control. What's going on? We have a new data agreement with some important partners. Where you provide the the kind of feed that's necessary for sports betting. So that there's integrity involved in that sports betting. But I think we're going to proceed with caution. Don't want the game to be swamped by all of the things that can surround sports betting. These sports talk show host in me will because Pete Rose has been my hottest button topic for thirty years. We'll have to say if legalized gambling becomes the norm. Will that have any impact whatsoever on Pete Rose, my view, and I think the right view is that being a player or anyone involved on the field or in the game in any way is a privilege with every privilege, there comes responsibility. So the fact that an ordinary citizen might be able to bet on baseball is irrelevant to whether anyone connected to the game can be involved in that activity in any way, that's one of the responsibilities that comes with the privilege of being involved in major league baseball. So I don't see the change in the gambling landscape. Is relevant to the question of Mr. roses sticks. Cow wanna talk about what I consider to be a major problem in sports. It is not unique to baseball basketball is struggling with it. Now, the best thing you can be in sports right now. Of course as a championship caliber team. The next best thing that you can be it is evolved into is to be a terrible team helped me what can we do in sports in general, not just yours to where we no longer incentivize losing. What is a better way? Well, look, I don't incentivize losing there's layers to that. I cannot do not buy into the notion that we have any team that is out there saying, you know, I'm gonna lose ninety five games this year. Okay. That is a painful undertaking for the owner the organization and the players. I think what they're thinking is baseball has always. Benny team game. And as a result of the fact that it's a team game. It's always gone through cycles. It's very hard to go out into the free agent market and fix a team. That's not very good. I think about it. Kansas City came off a rough patch had a great fourteen and fifteen won the World Series. The cubs in sixteen. Same story Houston in seventeen the same store. That's how you build a winner. I think the trick for us is to try to get that cycle that natural cycle that I've talked about to try to shorten it to the extent that you can. So it's a two or three years cycle not a four or five year cycle. So the fans have hope and the opportunity to root for a winner. That's then talk about young fans because that's always the conversation that comes up with baseball. Right. And I got some numbers that suggest that participation in little league right now is actually up and climbing. How did you do that? Well, investment we have. It made with the help of the players association. I I want to emphasize that we have been spending tens of millions of dollars annually trying to increase youth participation. Why the biggest determine of who's a fan of the game over the long haul over their lives is whether they place kids. So we feel like we're building our fan base by making that investment, we've particularly focused on underserved. Areas are RBI programs are youth academies, predominantly and underserved areas. And we seem great results as a result of that. I'll give you a great number twenty percent of our first round picks over the last five years have been African American. It's compared to eight percent of our big league workforce. Almost every one of those kids had some touch with RBI, a youth, academy, the elite development invitational and bureau beach. Some major league baseball program jumping into the numbers. Valuating millions of leases data in Lee playing the Avs Cincinnati by two hundred five word worthless. This is hembo knows hembo, courses. Paula bikinis the research free SPN the backbone of the show get up in that open. Hembo, is that your voice accelerated, you know, like the old fashioned turntable where you headed speed thirty three and you put it up to seventy seven and a third or whatever those numbers is. Absolutely not. Yeah. That we've established at last week his we're going through this absolute sue NAMI of contract extensions which we've been predicting for two months. I emailed you should hey, can you quantify and to put into context exactly how many extensions the arts these are and sort of where that ranks, and we're how is that cast against what we've seen in recent seasons. And those numbers are staggering this shooting hour, you really really hit the nail on the head and identifying this trend. I mean there have been twenty players now twenty players that have signed extensions since February tenth for total bus tour of one point six billion dollars. Okay. In the previous four years eight total of twenty one players combined. Did that for six hundred and sixty two million dollars during spring training? This has exploded. Unbelievable. That's incredible. I didn't realize that dollars up by two and a half times. That's absolutely made one of those players. You've got an extension. Jacob degrom. Who's one of your notes today? The Mets should have had to pay him twice as much given the way he was supported last season to Graham owned a point eight nine era in his wins. A one point six two in his no decisions and a two point seven one BUSTER in his loss as the era. He posted in his losses would have ranked fourth in the National League among qualifiers and his arm. Sped up as the season two grams average forcing fastball velocity BUSTER climbed from ninety four point four in March and April two ninety six point nine in September Noah Syndergaard with the only pitcher the only qualify pitcher to post the higher Mark in the final month of the season. Yeah. The spin was coming out of the Mets organization yesterday. I think that they didn't have to do this deal. You agree with me? They absolutely had to do it politically. Oh, yeah. I mean, they would have lost a fan base. If he was starting opening day with without a new contract. I can't I I read your column when I grew up with it entirely. Sure, there's very little precedent or context for things like this. He has to he had two more years of control. He's thirty years old. And because he because he debuted so late. But if he if he did not do this. This would been hanging over their their heads for the next two years. It would have gotten really ugly in New York. You've got to note an injured players and the luxury tax wrestled. Yeah. So a couple of weeks ago in the podcast Peres floated what I consider a fascinating idea to inject more spending into the game. And that was to make it so players on the injured list don't count towards the team's competitive balance balanced payroll, if I understood him correctly and four context the number of dollars spent an injured on the injured list has increased from five hundred and sixty million in two thousand sixteen to six hundred and fourteen in two thousand seventeen and seven hundred forty six million dollars last season busters seven hundred. Forty six million dollars represented about eighteen percent of total player salaries spent last season. So nearly one in five dollar spent was uninjured players while and a lot of that money, of course, teams get back through insurance policies in. So I made water saying I agree with you. That was fascinating. And it'll be interesting to see if the union brings it up in the next round of CBA talks. You have a note about how everyday catchers to becoming extinct show. So in basketball, the days of the back to basket center, playing forty minutes a night. There are thing of the past. And in baseball the equivalent to that might be the everyday catcher. So consider this last season only six catchers accrued enough plate appearances to qualify for the batting title and twenty seventeen the number was only four but BUSTER from two thousand to twenty sixteen the average number was nine and there are two performance observations of note. I catch your slash to thirty two three. Oh, four three seventy two in two thousand eighteen the worst batting line in a season in more than a decade. But conversely league-wide. Framing numbers measured by strikes looking above average registered the best number in the season in our data set so way, better defense way worse offense, the note that you have there is part of the reason why love with the nationals did during the off season because they didn't only just go out and get one catcher they went out and got John gums in Kerch is okay. What did you think? I agree that that the exact citation I would use because one of them hits like crazy Kurt Suzuki as rate over the last few seasons in relation to most catchers, and we know young can can frame and can throw better the most catcher. So you have two guys was such a a wide skillset variance, both of whom are proven professionals in veterans that you're not paying all that much money. That is a better formula than than sticking behind the plate for one hundred fifty games a year, I agree entirely before you go. What you World Series pick my World Series. Pick is the Yankees over the cardinals. I think this is the Yankees year. They're gonna win their division. Even though the Red Sox were juggernaut last year. I think Yankees might even be better than the Red Sox where year go the National League is wide open. The reason I like the cardinals is because of their off-season editions. But I also think the young pitch. The power pitchers on that staff. Should they remain healthy gives them the best staff in the National League? And I know that's not a popular opinion. But it's mine. Yeah. Jack, Larry looks like an absolute beasts, and I do think I wrote a column today about how during the summertime Madison. Bumgarner is going to be the most talked about pitcher in assuming that the cardinals will be in on that conversation about thanks for doing that later, boys. Bleacher tweets. All right BUSTER, we are on the eve of opening day. Let's get to some bleed your tweets. First one from one of our favorites. Rena at Rena banana BUSTER clinical isn't signed this week is his career over. If teams are hesitant to sign players who don't throw in spring training, wouldn't they be more hesitant to sign players who didn't throw it all for a whole season. It Raina Carl and I were talking about that. I have heard from teams that they increasingly have questions about players who aren't in spring training and about their preparation, which is why I think kaikal should sign as soon as possible and get into camp. Maybe as Carl mentioned he's going to wait and see if some injury develops and he would jump in. Now he'll pitch this year. I don't think he would sit out the whole year. It is possible if he waits until after the June draft then that would allow him to free himself up from draft pick compensation that would go away at maybe that's the strategy. They have at boy, I as as I said, I get into somebody's camps. Start pitching set yourself up for free agency in the fall from Neil Kelly at Neil k four BUSTER why is the day after opening day always often? And this is a common thing you see especially with teams in northern climates. It's because look the opening day crowds are typically. One of the best crowds of the year for teams, maybe even the best crowd of the year. And so teams want to make sure that they get that in. They don't want to have a postponement in the next days the second day of the season. And then the opening day crowd is deferred to later in the year. So they have an opening day. Like the Yankees do on Thursday, then they have the off day. So if they happen to have a rain out of snow out, or whatever they can just bump it back to the following day. That's why you always have that day off from Reggie deal at baseball nerd, oh seven BUSTER what day of the week? Do you prefer for opening day Thursday, the traditional Monday or the 2017 approach with Monday and three Sunday, openers why not go back to Monday and the extra games as Saturday divisional doubleheaders two per team in June. August. Yeah. Reggie unbiased. I'd like to open every season on Sunday night part of Sunday night baseball. I yeah. I think generally speaking if you're a traditional issue like to go back to Monday, but that's not how they're making the decisions. Now, it all comes down to the dates on the calendar. Right where they wanna play some games at the beginning of March. So you don't have it leak over and in November as much. So I, you know, I'm fine with the way they're doing it. They're just trying especially with in trying to honor the players requests for more days off during the course of the season. This is what you get at Thursday opener the way, we're having this year and now from Linden and Dussen road trip at Linden and Dusing BUSTER, my friend, and I are doing the great MLD stadium road trip. This summer, what's your favorite stadium? And why? I've said before I love Camden, Yards some bias because I covered the Orioles for a couple years their wish they hadn't built that Hilton view on left field because you can't see the Bromo seltzer tower anymore the way he could in the past. But cited for Thursday's stands it. Because I get to go to what used to be known as Safeco now t mobile park gonna go there today for some workouts. And they're gonna go to the team store going to buy a cap for our friend, Mr. macrey an old fashioned Mariners cap, I love that ballpark. I think that's incredibly underrated. I still think it look objectively the best ballpark is oracle park. Which what we used to know as AT and T Arkansas San Francisco, what do you think? What's funny is? I haven't been to many of the stadiums on the west coast. But I have heard similar things from the park and Seattle and San Francisco I've done a bunch of them probably about half in Camden Yards. I always thought was awesome. Awesome from Marc Sherman at shark Merman. Hey, josh. And BUSTER, what is more likely to happen in twenty nine thousand nine Mike tr? Out has a forty forty season or Aaron judge hit sixty home runs Mike trout steals basis, but he strategic he's not someone who's just going to compile basis just to build up numbers. You know, he's looking for game situations when maybe the angels are down around or maybe they're tied. So I don't think he's going to do forty forty. I think it's more likely. You're in hit sixty home runs and Mike goddess. He looked good this spring. He's changed his to strike approach. He's not striding anymore. He's so has such a great command of the strikes on. I think he's going to have a monster year. He was my pick to win the American League MVP for two thousand nineteen BUSTER, I'm interested. You said that Mike trout has actually hit forty home runs once and it scare he is stolen more than forty bases. Once in his career, Aaron judge, of course, has never hit sixty home runs in a. Yeah. Okay. So you're picking something that hasn't happened to happen. More likely to up. Okay. Yup. One hundred percent. And finally from James Demeo at Mo-jo is in six eighth. Three. That's a tricky one. Do you guys think guys like Fernando tat tees and Pete Alonzo are making opening day rosters because GM's anticipate super two guys getting the extra service time credit anyway in the next CBS? Yeah. The reason why they help players off the opening day roster was not because of arbitration it was because they wanted to defer free agency by your that's what happened with Kris Bryant, that's what would have happened with Fernando test each Tatt. He's junior the Padres held him out until April twentieth. I think Carl's, right. I think teams are in -ticipant changes with the new rules coming in. And so maybe they're willing to gamble with the way they're handling some of these young players and listeners don't forget tomorrow is opening day or opening day for most of the teams on American soil. I think it's Carl said so get those Bleacher tweets in for your season-long predictions. What you want Josh who will be back tomorrow and Buster's comment on tomorrow. Use the hashtag Bleacher tweets, Dan, thanks filling in for Josh again. What do you think do you think I should play some sort of a prank with the cap on getting get like a cap that's a little too small? So he was like, oh great. Where do you think? I should you know honor on our my what I told him. I was going to do maybe a little too big. I don't know. I. Nothing with joss he'll still put on and he'll film Twitter video in he'll get things going. You can't trick jive. No. And you know what? I I don't know if you can get a half it's too big for him. Right. I mean, he's got kind of a big he's kind of like the Bruce Bochy producers. I think how big is noggin is what do you think your words not mine BUSTER? I'm staying out of this. Oh, great job this week filling in for him. My thanks to Mike Greenberg to rob Manfred to Carl Ravitch into Paul indicates. Hembo, have a great day everybody last off day before the season. Get started. 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Football Postcast: UEFA Champions League Final: Spurs v Liverpool | UEL Reaction | UEFA Nations League

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Football Postcast: UEFA Champions League Final: Spurs v Liverpool | UEL Reaction | UEFA Nations League

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I'm Reese meetings, and, and I'm joined by a monk Langdon and in Wilkes and to taught them fans to preview Liverpool versus Tottenham in the big game of the season. We've also got from Patty power a Man United fans. So Liverpool fans I'm not quite sure how much confidence. They'll be in your boys as for them in the media, anyway. We, we, we re dressing the balance. But before we get onto what is sure to be. I now th- will turn game and also have a look ahead to next week's UEFA nations league semifinals. Let's look at first of all, we'll start with last night's Europa league final Chelsea for us. No, one it felt the Umbro cop or something like that. I I've got us I, I didn't have high hopes for it, but I thought that first half I sat down. This is dreadful issues apps. This is no, what European funds should feel that you couldn't see the crowd. There was not atmosphere at the worst camera angles since White Hart Lane closed. It was just height. It second of got quite interesting. But even then when the goes, we're going in it was like it was like a pre season friendly. It just didn't feel anything like is going to be so much better on Saturday. But friends at looking at football month. What did you make it? Yeah. I mean I didn't obviously didn't see full one coming off time locking up salute fifty-fifty game at half time. And, you know, you, you probably would have been backing penalties or at least extra time once Chelsea stepped up. They clearly talk. It's it the, the right side of, of awesome was defense. Mate knows, you know, isn't on suppose he could be a wingback. He better going forward, the knees defensively and the from free on those, it was picked up quite rightly some of the state. I mean I mean a bomb young Lakers. There are the two best players to keep his didn't do anything. I mean like I said be could have had a penalty. I'm not sure that it was, it was a it was a really poor second half performance from awesome given how much that game meant to them. Because you know you've seen in the papers of week about the budget if they go in champions e competitor, if they didn't. And now they know in very difficult to see how they can sort of be top for next season. Confident of top for next season opened in, in the second off and they, they did up chances arsenal. When he came on all those who. Yeah. I mean, I'm guess it's going to be big disappointment for awesome the way they performed in. Chelsea did the Joe is really good goal. The first of the they were really lifted by that jury go when I mean, the festival was always important in any football match it if such quality really gave me and then they struck. So Elliott afterwards than, you know, it was all over free. Now when you touched on my favorite moment, mar the penalty the possible penalty in the first and they went to pay to Walton's they always, but they went too early for me and seen in replace. So he was going. Yeah. And he's waiting for the replay to come genuinely mica refereeing. Exactly. The diode store by that pizza Wolfson Howie when he pumped up during the celebrations, someone was telling me that the guy who's in control of the controls BT for that night was a massive Spurs fan, and he just went bonkers. He was flicking switches, everywhere, a lot. There was a caned. Looked like he was trying to leave evacuate. It was it was a cat. Oh, it was just a. I'm told it was the Spurs found that just went absolutely phone. Is is. I mean I'm calling even be I call and say one hundred percent. True. But the person who told me seemed to know for sure. And that's what it looked locked in dates ridiculous. Anything from not much last night. Or maybe the last part the season for chosen arsenal. Gino gone opposite directions next season. Or do you think Chelsea's issues with transfers and having to replace as we saw with hazard last night? How might that plane, he's got the two issues got after dresses, the loss of their best player and what's happening with the managerial situation, I think, is a bit harsh. I'm just imagining what the reaction would be if Frank Lampard it go. Chelsea deferred in the league in one you write for Cup and. Saw getting a bit rancher you write for Cup. Yup. And get into the League Cup final offing everybody will be signed. Now, he's getting the freedom of Kensington and Chelsea wouldn't. He Roman is still second. Yeah. I think if I keep sorry, I think they could move into the right direction, decent investment. Obviously is going to be very difficult to replace a player if house quality but they play well as it same, then it. Well together. I think they could definitely definitely been talk for next year. Well, let's get show Peyton from Jason on the twenty nine twenty twenty Premier League. Yeah. You're a winner market. Yeah. Yes. A win market, obviously Muncie. We favorites there at the moment. It turning Liverpool. We have a thirteen fully Tottenham forty two one. Chelsea twenty two one Monday night. It's short at twenty two one arsenal. Then we have a thirty two one, then you're bigger places wolves hundred and fifty one Newcastle of sleeping in this week, two hundred one and one hundred fifty one and thoughtful four with open to appear. To appear. So top four of the say, I think one, the fifty we've Liverpool, but one twelve then you're looking at Tottenham want to we've Chalcedon next favorites four five. We Monday night eleven to ten you've arsenal, then best price attorney into ten, then you're looking at sixteen for LeicesteR seventeen for wolves and twenties forever. Is that you're taking the ultimate tablets Jason man United's price say, yeah? Well, you just have to factor in his whether, you know, you're going to let him and, you know, transfer news over the summer things change quite quickly for them. Both personally as United find you just be happy to see some kind of a study of the player or some kind of, of just long-term plan like Liverpool mass data season, Stephen, Jared, last Cam for years ago, the got at six one store rain Shawcross for saying restroom linked to relax and a half time six nettle. But look what Liverpool her word of gone to four years since like, you know, second Champions League final two years. So things can turn around for quite quickly, will you just like to see? Just just a plan next season. You know, to some kind of structure to the team, and also the few scenes over summer would have there's talk about delays, his the Ford Cortina ignoble casting is there's people saying on Twitter of the actually wants to come to you. Eat dinner wouldn't sane in parentheses decision. Makings awful. So, you know, it's the need to do a big overhaul of the squad for younger places a James swans along stuff at new car. So, you know, he's been linked with a few us seventy Jason that's more to do with limitations as in like no Champions League football manager who's unproven? Like, you know, if you're a top, top player, you're not necessarily going to go to, you know, it's a nice, it's money that striving and deletes agent is me. No, Royal so maybe maybe might have award. And he's air put him, you know, that's I think, you know, you'd have to look at those kind of players, just because of what's available in the market, and who you're competing against Satan Liverpool. Look to improve no Chelsea have bomb bamboo across Europe, the big players will like Real Madrid. Obviously going to be looking this summer with hazard and the ballot, you know, is a big player that United could possibly golfer, not exactly what the need like you know, he's, he's maybe a younger one. My he hasn't got pissed that you would need going forward, Harry Maguire again. You're talking maybe seventy million good aerial track. Good except pieces moisture. The defense might be between the scene and you'll be happy to get put him. Ascendancy for Harry Maguire. You don't have to pay a premium on, I think the gopher as well. And that's also looking to, to build as well on Brennan orders. And I think actually, you know arsenal Amri had a season saw always defense there, what she hasn't really done. Chelsea with the transfer ban hazard, obviously gone Saturday possibly to you. There was one to ten yesterday out to toot for, you know, after last natured so don't think Chelsea are going to be any better next year and it's hard to know what your night. So it's having look at LeicesteR maybe they're tough for, like says sixteen or I think maybe tens on them for top six Koby Rebecca. Yeah. I like less if they get Thielemans. But that's a bit of an if now Mark, if you had any of those prices at Jason read out there to Khwaja fencing, I would be looking at some rely less, or, I mean you have to if Everton can maybe improve if they showed signs who's into the scene getting their act together, as well wars have got the Europa league that starts in July of Weiser would say them. I think that, you know, that's a big handicap, the if you go far in Europe, in the US. It's almost a season. So I think that there's vulnerability there. Outside of the top two mentioned show sees potential transfer ban. I mean also needs so much surgery. And I think they're probably still another couple of years away from even being where Emory wants to. They could set when Ramsey walks out the door. Yeah. I mean, Ramsey goes you still. You know, I mean, there's an abundance in issue, there were the three best players up front, I if you play them to then the rest of the team's gonna be really good defensively and down go at very many defenders. I mean Tottenham I'm chino. He's making noises about walking wipe. I mean Jimmy mission. Season. There isn't it the new calf? I'm I'm also. No. I mean I appreciate him so whatever take it for granted the ease. And, you know some states they need to invest quite lucky to finish in four by the end. So they're all places available there. I don't think that there's this even wherever the point system said, I don't think there's a massive gap between unless star and awesome award or Tottenham, you know, so they could be room for somebody to get crushed that sought for. Yeah, we'll cut the very Tope. I must admit I'm slightly surprised the difference in price between sits in live, Roth bit closer. Yes, I've thought was I'm more. I don't know. I was I mean, I think I think Sydney City proved that they are the best team this year and they will be there will be scope for investment. But what about Liverpool is that he's even the wife playing and they've got the system. And that's that's the difference between the teams and people are awesome. When United is that, you know, they don't where they coming, this, nice philosophy and figure out, you know how a Guardia team's gonna play now close team's going to play. You know, our put your team six anymore, so Shaka, and the best speak to, and then a lot of others. Jason, let's look at the other end of the time because villa joined the elite welcome back to that, fine Birmingham club. They scrape type for the loan scraped. I've learning Dhabi. They got the job done, what price of villa to either style come back next year. Yes. So we have the much sixty four is as big as ninth four zero two difference. We have would probably be sent to stay up. We'll come down. I sorry. Sorry, relegation we'd hoped sixty four whereas we're clean. We'd have brightened Onoda clean a bracket. You're not we'd be ninety four brain which would be nearly best price. We think you know, Brighton with Parker men is a very shrewd managerial change for them, whereas Aston Villa Rizek upcoming up and Dean Smith stone fantastic, since he came in, and it was an unbelievable run to get there in the end puts, again, the time Abraham willa getting back on law next season for argument's sake. If, if Christian Erickson was the Spurs than sports route shorty comeback. Look at Jack relig- now with him back into primarily, there's no pressure on them to leave. Could easy stay there and develop for another season? But we just take it is still jump to combat copter primarily. There's a lot of lot of strong teams ahead headed them. So Aston Villa's stay up next season. We'll be a massive success, but we'd have them sixty four there at the moment. A few other relegation prices. I will run them out there. So we've Sheffield United at eleven. We've Norwich ten eleven than we'd be next on Billy at sixty four we to Burnley fifteen days. We'd be brightened in ninety four and then there's a bit of a gap them, we're out to ninety two so hunting, six to one palace turning to offer sixth one born. And then yet whatever it industry. Okay. Jason's view there is or the Patty purview. Jason view is that Brian are going to be Saif with Potter and going to be vulnerable. What did you think of those early prices on Asian? Version. I think we'll be okay. I, I don't see greenish going. I mean presuming he's finished drinking bother nothing being on the last show ever since Monday, I great play in could just easily top six. But I think he's connections of the club will mean he'll give them at least one year in the Premier League. Do need to invest in. There's been the suggestion that there's some, some financial fair place used handicapped, woes a little bit. But I think you can do some shrewd lone wolves did with him in that alone him. And then you do in place to sign him often, you'll be fine of the free that came up. I would have grave concerns often about Norwich. I they won the championship. But I, I'm not I wasn't that sold on them in a lot of their games. And I just feel what they've got a lot of players the championship level. And then maybe they will step out the fullbacks property Cam. But I'm just not sure about. Somebody like who key for instance, we've seen with them in the past. They, they know they'll be like West Brom. They know they're gonna come up. They know they're going to go down. And they know the cage, not go app. See below ballistic and do what Fulham difference. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, shift United of more unique way of playing the may just catch primarily teams out early. So if you want to bet now who would you back Norwich? They would be the ones for sure. What proc- boom with Jason were six to one bore mature at the moment, someone else for seven out of that. No. I'd I'd be interested enough in new call. So if the take over it doesn't happen, I mean Benitez hasn't saw in new contracts. I mean he's the only reason really why they're in a way where they also that would be to improbably chef regionality without, I wouldn't back them in the price. So you're against the cherries as well. I will. Wilson gun. Yeah. I'm an icon defend but Tuffy can they, they, they can see so many calls it can see more than sixty seventy goes a season for the law since came out, every year of back to them every August is well, because I think it just can't carry on and there, because so many Steve cook who's like the mainstay of their defense. I mean, it's the worst primarily player in the country, they just look terrible defending. And they just manage to square glowing by getting. I wins in fifteen matches and then after Christmas, I like Stein, not just carry on. So I'll Tiffany, I'll take a bit six to one about. You've been against Bouma through say's moan of a sudden you. Of. They, you know, they, you could argue it doesn't matter when you get your points and they go enough of them pretty comfortably. I, I mean it depends if Bruce, Fraser moose and go then you you're talking differently. But those from players have been good enough to keep them in the league before. Sorry. See reason why won't gain dot be muscle volume that Brian could be interesting to guard down. I mean learning just stayed up Potter. Look, very good at swollen Zeba. I mean you can never any managerial point has risk to it show Champions League next. Right. Ten seconds to promote potty power games. Putty, power games putty power games party power games advertising. It's easy, when you know how putty power enough of the nonsense eighteen plus become took. Okay. Eight PM on Saturday night is taught them versus live, poor, imagery for the Champions League funnel. One of the most eagerly-awaited football matches. I can ever remember marks about to head off to Madrid worker, I think, watching at home on very much Ason might not even be watching Man United. Man. United come bear it, but everyone else will be avidly tuned in, and they want to know where to put their hard-earned cash to a pleasure with a wager. So Jason takes us through the match odds, and also to lift the trophy. Yes. So Liverpool favorites attentive eleven in the ninety minute market. We've the draw twelve four and Tottenham sixteen five win ninety minutes to lift the cope thin. We've Liverpool best price at fifteen and we've Spurs sixty four okay by the way, they see as the greatest, I played for both clubs fixture of old time. We've got an actual team and subs in the right position. So I feel think about that, while the lead to give you the best bets and then we will culminate at Champions League preview with the revelation of the they played for both clubs eleven but first of all, Mark without further ado. How to mystic? Defined as more optimistic than so of the pumps offing, if you look at the, the numbers Liverpool of core. Quite a strong hold over Tottenham. I mean we, we eat what you spoke earlier on about. You know being a big two and then the rest. I mean, you know, supposedly nineteen matches in competitions disease, which is absolutely bonkers there is they're in a Champions League final defined in may thinks, well, this is the first time all year that everybody available and in a one of game, I think that they are as they showed in the second half against Liverpool Anfield. They are capable really pushing anybody lost both against to one in Las. Yeah. I mean much and it was well the first game at Wembley, Liverpool were I mean, the expected goals was was crazy little voices in certainly before Christmas, wasn't it? Yeah. I mean Liverpool destroyed them. I'm filled it was a closer. But then you have a look at like the goal-difference for instance, over Liverpool's games this season there, about plus one point four over their opponents taunting number about plus no point seven. So there's a new point seven supremacy difference de so I mean Liverpool dessert. Served to be the price that they are thinking, I also think for this season they deserve. It doesn't work on. But they deserve a trophy. Yeah. Yeah. No. That'd be magnificent. What will happen? I'm gonna go for in, in the double result market Liverpool. Halftime, Liverpool fulltime the basis, being taught him of starts so many big matches, slowly they were behind in both games against Liverpool in free of the four games. I played against man city. They conceded inside the I six minutes they were behind early in both games against Barcelona. They were behind early in both games against our acts and showed, you know recovery the end. But there's just this. So a nagging Dow about the attitude wise in terms of big matches in. They seem to start sloppily and then once the games lost then wake up and it's easier to play without that pressure and Liverpool, we know absolutely go for the jugular. Oh times. And. I don't think I think it'd be a good game. I don't think the Tottenham defensively, in the fullback areas can deal with my and Saleh. I'm plus the full box coming forward with robots exander on old. And if you fancy Liverpool, I think is a bad way you, you know, if they know ahead of time you start to get really nervous. So I'd RAV about them around about so inaccessible to one to do that than volumes. A winning ninety minutes. We'll we absolutely boiling hot apparent whether for thirty five degrees, even by. Well, yeah. I mean, could that affect things in terms of pressing styles, etc, etc? I mean when we talk about that, obviously, that's you talking about two to face teams in Europe and you're talking about they're going to the vet free weeks off. So they should be geared for that sort of thing. But I do believe he had the weather could play a bit of a party led a temperature. I'm I think he's going to be quite tight game draws a big runner I think it could be the game. We talked about the game at Wembley where I'm suppose we're outplayed Liverpool by followed at two one flat taught they school ride the end could have easily been free for now. But the guy infielders really tired, she's Oko at that great chance that you missed. And then I'm suppose contribute to the rundown for with ongo right the end. So I think I think we could be in front of a tight game to five draw is a big runner for me. I also like five to one either team to win on penalties. We've had I in games have gone to. I generally funds have gone to extra time since live poop and eighty four. An eleven of we're gonna penalty sunny, two of them have been settled in the extra fat in minutes. So I would suggest that, that could be the way to go forward. And then you could select up sheet by back in each team to win on penalties. Okay. Jason if you go strong with you on the game. And I think the match prices and to lift trophy. I think the gap in the prices won't necessarily be reflective of how competitive the game. We'll be uncertain nice. I tink, spores are a little bit value lifted trophy there, if you wanted to have a bet on them, and for me, I mean, more will be watching it. Unfortunately I'm just hoping for a creek game. Both teams score is clicked and seven at the last day at meetings between these two sides. So the do give us goals. That's about eight eleven and poor teams scores clicked in the last air chimes league phones, and we've had some great pointers recently with some Greg older seem bears, Boyce. Go kick. Last year months juke each year before an all you've lost the game just hoping to see some of, you know, sticking a highly. It real for years to come wetter. It's the Spurs are liberal, those, you do need a bit. Look to win the Champions League as well order ways, you know, say, we'll be winning. But that's why we love football if, if the best team on all the time, then there'd be no point in watching. I think spores have been lucky to get to the final, although you do make your own look too, at the same time but even going back to the groups. They're just we're lucky you know, owner messy in the last group game when Spurs needed a win. And we got the lake all true and again to kept going against reacts delake all true there as well and they have had been lock as well also again Toronto against Barcelona in that comeback. Put even not Li wasn't Martin's. Who's the Napoli striker? I listened last game, eight minutes in the group stage you can say the Capers closed them down. I think he's hit dry. I'm that close in the pool go at group group stage. So you do need a bit of look to win the Champions League NATs way. Man say you haven't wanted. All our will says they hope it's not something that's on lucky that, you know, the like carry us last season. I thought that was a sham what happened with him lorries. We know has a mistake in them. You had a mistake and work got away with it there, and even seen with Charlton than last week of fell dolphin when sooner I went one that would have been a terrible way for game like that should be the same. So I just hope it's a bit of magic that those on the night, who will give us the magic for me in the goal score. Markets untypical for menial for Liverpool if you want to back him six to one thirteen to two four score. Score club said he's fighting to play if you look at is primarily record this season. He's x g per ninety minutes is point four seven of a gold. Mine is only point four nine and Silas point six in silence. Few penalties thrown in there as well. So for menial at the bigger price, the frontier, I think, is a bet if you're a Spurs fan, I'd have to look at Ericsson meanwhile a player decide as being. Is only missed nine league games in the four seasons is being dairy scored twenty two goals in those league games as well. He's got tuned to Champions League this season. So you're a Spurs fan, forty one and Ericsson this Stephanie, where the big question Mark is can we have one the four for Cantu? Start. I'd love to know exactly how his injury is if it's one of those injuries where it's just much fitness than for me, a wouldn't start or just bring them on with twenty minutes left when needed maybe to change game. Give sports. Leftover goal behind where if it's one of those injuries where you could just break down at any moment. Denim forcing. Yeah, you would have to start the game and see how he goes from there. Let's go Madrid. Did it a few years ago with Diego cost? And I think costume to finally had to come off after fifteen twenty minutes. Order markets have you're looking for a few bits beano to be booked, and he's only played forty minutes can sports this season. Got in imports before those games, Barcelona, you know, of Liverpool are winning. He won't be showing, you know, make one of these professional folds. It needs to be with Spurs break crossed the halfway lane to get to one eleven to four for him to be booked if you're looking for the bigger prices a bit. Narrative Riga to start on the bench and scored a winning goal is twenty two to one or more scoring normal time would after the a fifth minute is thirty three to one so there's plenty of best the have there. But for me, I think there's a value in Spurs to win the trophy parties. Never won a trophy, but ordered it sorry until last night so be the narrative that we're looking at this week. So maybe Klopp will be a bridesmaid again in European point of putsch will great stuff. Jason I must say the one, the I'd take issue there is with Eric's. Don't the Eriksen in the big games performs? I, I wouldn't star am I don't I think, if, if he's gonna if he's going to accommodate Komitch. Looks like he will. It's a real can I think it's hard to I think it's hard because I would actually drop Eric's and, or alley. And I thing I've just seen Erickson, just for fingertips around question about ally, a month ago already said drop Halley, but because I'm the guy he played against I actually played in the more of a true position playing behind the front for was his best game either. Conus for this. I'm not sure Erickson does. He's a lovely plant. Don't get me wrong. I'm just not sure he's that effectiveness games you're gonna take Shimon. I just wouldn't play Lucas. I mean he's not as good as well. I mean, I know each scored a second-half trick against all acts, which is taken something to this position. But it's the Champions League. Following on you pick your best players and off in Lucas's, not as good as the other four he scored a second-half out. Tricky in sit down, which was amazing. He has just over ten percent of Schultz. We've he's left for he scored a hat trick of left-footed goes. I mean, it's just one of those, you know, bunkers things that you probably not going to repeat ever again. And he's life second in a month. Yeah. I mean, the one that gains how does field and go keep a Ben Hamer. I mean to come in an ostrich next to it. I just think play your best players and Lucas is a good option of the benches. Well if canes fit he just has to play play. You go any other derivatives specials Nolte's for small in, in terms of the, the goal scores all Monet fourteen and he's all sixteen and he's up against the worst planning something's team. Wherever it's trippy or orient right back. I don't know. But it will be a hope. It's Sewri but he didn't play against Everton. And I don't know why. Because he may be needed the game. And he played, you know. So I, I think I think he might go for trivia, it'd be doesn't, but whoever plays Daffy Monet's got the beat in them all day long and all night properly world-class. Yeah. Yeah. You down. Yeah. And he's bigger than solid solid on penalties of me on it doesn't play. But I think silence got more difficult task up against Danny rose than what Monet as go in terms of the bookings market. You mentioned the pressing earlier on offing that brings to midfield into play and soco sixteen for the first booking. I mean, he's, he's quite clumsy anyway and Henderson at Twinsies. That's where ought be be looking really. And they'll stone or merely. Oh, nafi. Oh, always. I've got both of them starting a no Jeannie went out. And really? Yeah. I mean million attendance to these big games. I mean OB Arthur might leave. No. At the end to sit in, I'm familiar, definitely. It's Milner when out my fingers. Think. Demand, more remote. I actually don't blame. As well. I mean but you, you, you pick your best players and worry about the rest of this aside coach for I called Wilco Elsevier Vigo for mine wounds base Iran, the same sort of thing really that we talked about the white frat from Liverpool, particularly offering, they're really gonna get whoever plays right back. Particularly trip here was at it very disappointing season. So I think the could be plenty of corners in this game Liverpool. They got an average of six and a half corn. Isn't that guy's Spurs average of five point while one, but while Liverpool I can see that free and free point free? Join a league matches. We'll see that takes into account teams coming to Liverpool Taran failed and not making much much of li- positive contribution so each team to get four more corners. Eleven to ten things quite nice and six or more Zeitz one, if you want a bit bit more than that I'm related to the white areas as well. Headache goes you two teams in the Premier League school morehead than anybody else. Nineteen for Liverpool last year. Fourteen for Spurs. Both teams to score head eleven to one. That's quite good, looking at the book ins old, I'm whoever puts Tina plus breath coming from Savina this. This league as being seen around that does quite a lot the champions, our fingers run as the five players who potentially going to play fullback for Spurs. Foyt oria rose Davis and trivia. I mean the the prices again it depends on who styles. Oviously offing, they'll be that we mount men to got for the cards and linked to that as well. The why we've talked about fullbacks the excellent Andy robots, an anytime assist four to one. Okay. Excellent stuff load on. Let's that's great. Right. And they played for both clubs. You've been beavering wellness smoke and I have. Yeah. Yeah. So, right. Clements go be Clements claiming Clem, clementine go back free. It's not the strongest back free, but they we go Stephen coca John Scales, and Neil Ruddock in the wingback areas price now, wingback areas, lean Alton, Illinois evens. Yeah. Laurent Christians IGA on the left you have by you could also have chess as well. Con- you. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think Z A definitely that definitely Trump's him. You got soon s holding the midfield. That's a glaring omission on that graphic. Yeah. I mean, we've got your you a Cup performance for spares. What one one game Spurs. I went for Jamie Redknapp as the pulsa emit yet. I mean he is. Who'd have bone be somebody that joins in the attack on often. Pushtu undergrad underwrite to play a stream those who played in the north. Manchester, and then crouching and keynote from we've you substitutes. I mean you mentioned read lingo, free yourself goalkeeper any Murphy. We've go anymore. Danny murphy. Nick Barmby Paul Walsh, poking chess ski have coming strip, actually young. He never never played for for, for Tottenham. He was on the on the bench. But yeah, I mean well, I mean, we go Burkinshaw played for Liverpool one guy, and manage Spurs on Doug, Livermore Z's assistant, who was joint manager at Tottenham appea- Shreeves unplayed for Liverpool. And then putting it all together is a sporting director Damian commodity fantastic. Molly. Did you have any more Jason we pretty much summed up? It was very horrible. Robbie keane. Get mentioned. Yeah. No definitely team soonest would have the armband Whitney. Okay. What is our nap of the Champions League one bet is will not be too. Fantastic game. Jason zillion market. Some pretty power dot com. If you could only bet on one, what would it, be for me again, for the reasons outlined earlier, it'd be going with Robbie for menial go Whitman Mindy anytime goal scorer market, there you get about ninety four on them? So he would okay? Mock Liverpool to win the game of is safe enough. Really live. Yeah. Winning on a minute. Four more kunas and eleven to ten or like that. Okay. The action remains in the IBM peninsula. We've got the UEFA nations league semi's. We'll do those next friends, or maybe more twenty create free bed for every friend who referred to potty power. Thanks to our friends with benefits program. Log into your potty power count and share your referral link to get started terms and conditions. Apply agent, plus become the word dot org. Welcome the racing post foot will post costumes, Bruce Millington monk Langdon in Wilkerson and Jason Murphy from Patty power. Okay. So off the excitement of the Champions League on Saturday night, the action heads west to Portugal because the season doesn't end it never ends. It's the first ever you I for nations league outright final. We've got semi's. I knows what we're gonna look at it because on Wednesday seven forty five. It's Portugal versus Switzerland, followed a day later, by the Netherlands, versus England Jason before we look at each individual game. What's the? The latest from petty Powell onto win this thing. Yeah, we've we've been in us favorites at MoMA turning to air. We've porticos fifteen s then we'd have netted UN's best price at treat one, and then we'd have Switzerland, six to one. Okay. Well, we'll do the first semi next week is Portugal, Switzerland. What's the nineteen minutes? Yes. We portico eight torty draw turn into for events, which land four to one. Okay. What will happen? Well, I mean, we're, we're getting very excited about the nation's. They I think perhaps people are getting a little bit to ask about it, because it really is. It's not a massive prize at the end of it is literally playing for cop rather than qualification or things like that. So I think can put go applying at home. But I think I could we could give him a decent game. They they were both in the same qualifying group for the World Cup. And they were nine out of ten games by teams. I'm portugal. No ingrate recent phone. The last four matches of journal and the loss for you have been at home to Portugal, Ukraine, and Serbia. They go. They, they, they if you remember, these were free team groups and yet to win the right for when they, they did the hardware by beating Italy, and then winning free to empower Roland. So they've been a little bit sticky. Go, first Wilco ran wall. I've been impressed with Swiss, then they've had some decent results that beat beat beat Belgium five two and I think they should Charleston Vancouver and say this guy. So you've got the double challenge Swiss system into Joe chance at eleven to ten or the free to one perfect Jason. What's your view this one degree a lot? We'll go said there on Portugal in those Coppola draws haven't been gripped forms as Syria squad on peppers lakes. Bernardo Silva, Diego, Georgia Cristiano Renaldo, Joe can settle fullbacks bent. Full box again. Unite are interested in him. It'd be grabbed got him Edris Joe Felix's well from Benfica as not capture and disappointed. 'cause back Portugal in the under twenty World Cup police in the squad with the seniors for this game. So be great. Mattress to watch next win since he'd a bit of quality on shore. But for me, I be saying wiggle. And what I do is I'd, I'd go for Switzerland in the ROY Radin like, you know, have to get result in the matched, and they'll go into the final, and be a lot shorter than your six to one device. The had very good World Cup. I taught the commode with tough group with Brazil, and Serbia and taught the word a pair team against Sweden and England, and I think they would have given them a better game in Sweden at had some good results stuff to win against Belgium as well shows a bit of character to and of a big player in ramo, frailer, and Atalanta playmaker is only only recently gotten to squad. He's kind of been sitting on the bench with Switzerland last two years. He's fully pace. He scored on these on these last time against Denmark. He likes to shop from outside. The box is twenty two one there for four scores scores. So if you think switching undergoing to get results that have look at him into goal score. Markets even have a look at, you know, to score from outside the box when it's price dope. Reema frailer Nomo pronunciation might be the best on that put, he's, he's had a great season. Obviously them getting into the football. He was a massive purdah. Excellent, Mark disagree. I think Portugal home voluntee-, Jen. I, I do agree is the I think the debate here is just back in the outright, because I mean it may take hundreds when you minutes. So. Penalties. But I think Portugal, obviously Cristiano Renaldo didn't play in the nation's league qualifying campaign quantum important player for them, but was coming off in the mazing year with my Justice itchy. I just wonder as well. Switzerland of see shakira's in Madrid at the moment with Liverpool. Jacka was in Azerbaijan last night. You know, chasing the Chelsea players around the pitch don't know when they're going to fully come together, and it's going to be quite late, and they are hugely throwing two players does to for Switzerland, Switzerland of upset, the odds acquired a number of times in recent years. They're thinking y'all. Stay just bring the being home in this nation's Lee, where you still don't entirely sure everybody's treat in the competition. I mean, if you're at home is probably the onus is on your little bit more. Okay. And then for the next Thursday, sim, forty five Netherlands, versus England, ninety minute bang. Jason, yes. So England would be favorites at twenty eight to ten to draw. Eleven to four even Holland two to one. And what's the bet? Hey Jason for me. I thinking are a bit short, maybe getting with netted UN's, obviously, when the alderman bundle, you'll be Champions League was England have few players as well. Baba's looked good for Fulham this season, the poised on well in France and obviously DAX boys had a very good run. The Champions League also recently been to world champions. France, two-nil and pull the gray result over the, by the way to Germany war two-nil down with five minutes left and got result as well to, to help them qualify for this whereas England, you can only be what's in front of you. And it is impressive to put, you know, score ten goals in two games against a check of Montenegro poor, I still think run at the world hope was lucky. I mean if candles and score against tune easy. It's completely different Sumer for everyone and I taught, you know, Croatia we're often in the group stage really that in, in the new game England away was terrible watching you f nations they the great results aware the span. But again looking at that game I think if it was to be played again, I think expand win at nine times over ten. So I just kind of England as favorites for this put Sam again. I'd have look deal. Ray Hollander treat one. And if you think you're going to get result in this game, which they might be looking to say England on just on, you know. It just feels a bit short. When you think of the, the players, you know, like Caine Henderson has being a key mine in the midfield for them. I mean that Champions League fine offing is difficult ones a call until we know how that goes really for this game because it is important. But I just think we've, we've Holland, obviously, you got dyke. They're back. She they've got quite good debt for in centreback positions with delay and to fry plays in Sierra as well. I don't think we're now is, you know, if you vanderbeek and Frankie diong, I don't think we're now them is going to be that much of a loss, if he can't start him. So I'd I'd be look into a posing, a lot both teams actually, but this as much between the maybe what the process suggests so them I suppose probably Netherlands, drawn, I bet would be the way I would go, I think he's going to be caught heart game. We'll see what you think. I mean, it's a difficult one isn't exit as monks says you want to say a Saturday night. Pens outrage difficult. Motivation as much as sky will bump this, obviously grew if I tune, while there's no no ROY on. And Consequently, I think England will be over bet because people will buy into this goaty. So I tried fee. We're gonna win and since nineteen sixty six away ever England, always don't. Whatever is there always off. Fumbling having said that I think, because Holland Devon qualify for the last two tournaments, they've got plenty to prove as well, when they wanna make them are just are just think England will be I bet there probably will go off to show, and then the value will be back in the Ranji. That's what you're gonna do. Is it? Okay. Excellent. I'm looking forward to that. I must say so incredible few days nemo, you'll gathering your pipe together. Are you about to start? What does it entitle in plenty of beer, it's going to Intel stray out of its black is when on about? So no, it free software for yourself, noon to get union, dad. Yeah. And then there's various Alva people don't all over Spain in Europe over the next day and a half. And then from Mallaig can have a danger of Benham it dean or millennials tomorrow, probably fund the rice and publish the oaks and everything you have lash tomorrow, then Saturday morning of monies to cancel the train via code of and get direct trains Madrid. So about knowing o'clock, Saturday morning Mallika in Madrid all day. And then you go to a couple of museums. Yes. And Gary straight to the Tottenham fans on where where everyone may congregates. We've got some guy from Ben and Dolman Seville in places like that. So told them find zone of go a nightclub area book to watch the game. You can go ticket. No, no, no. You just decided it wasn't even. Possibly could have got one photo really put my mind to it, but there's all the people going couldn't have got four five six or whatever. So that's fine. I'm not real. You know, I'm watching it in a pub old. I remained off in one of the people, he's going, sending lily white. I'm believe of the e a each said they talk of different nightclub now. So I'll end up in a club somewhere excited really excited. I'm the only if you know accelerate about is a coach journey back to Mallika seven AM on Sunday morning coaches of travel bands away on the race. Travel sickness tablet says, not too tight with our call, but the risk guy and hopefully I'll sleep for six the six hour journey back if not the worst case scenario is a wake-up boot sick down me and my because that's where the bus eventually up. I'm not exactly so and then Monday morning. Back home. You know how you're looking. Yeah. How flea is unclear European champion now. Well, it's not hope it goes. Well, my fantastic trick, Wilco your lifelong, Spurs fans will be what you're going to be doing what you. But they'll man, what should everybody our man? Yeah. Well, he was the one responsible type meet me. First game in nineteen seventy nine. So fortunate et griot really will be I think probably on the bist bright up up just about backing lying. Oh, I'll be having one or two, but not many, Jason Euell slightly lens excited about this weekend on your, we'll just come back from the French Open last night. So it mean for the stretch put him all illiberal funds have certainly booked off. So the office won't be it'll be it'll be bearable anymore. If approved do the business. People going over to Madrid ticketless Liverpool after about fifty thousand I absolutely like there'd be large would win jumping on the airplane tickets. Join that second-leg once who went to two there's people look now stop. Nope. I'm so. Yeah. There is a good few traveling over. I don't know regards, Twitter, how successful the would be would tickets or would open the editor be Big Mac, Norway, my son works in Melbourne. And one of his mates is Johnson, a planes, money on his own to go to Madrid asthma and God ticket all night. So I mean. Ace actually tell me about the USO French you went seven days to watch tennis, Jason sorry. We went for two as just got back late last night. Oh, I saw him in. No for the next day. Am cheeses, query? And enjoy this could see coupla grand slam winners. Stan were rank got seen dial the Portugal, Ostapenko plan doubles we've enjoyed a win for a few tennis exports is whether you're looking for pets and the rates. Yes, I am. Said TM, he's actually playing at the moment to one plus the second set on the toll breakway to went up at the moment. He was nine to one pre-match under. So we get through how law consumer prices and directing Serena's legs are gone, where she still has the power on the floor slower surface that is clear to reckon twenty two one. Serena, maybe could get. It was maybe still twenty two. Okay. Thanks. And wow, I didn't expect that and time now listen, Jason this your phone on postcards for us this season. I want to say thank you so much for your input. You've been out to see superb. You've helped me some very, very good. I got tips as well. So we need you back next season on the post cost, my friend, have a great summer. Mar a more co enjoy, so's on Saturday. No one's asked me where I'm watching the game muse you still gun, some you lost autumn, I booked, tickets to go and see MIR's okay on our thoughts soprano up at check when these now on alludes June the first so I should be with my daughter Olympic London stadium. What she muse on of written off the funnel. There's nothing to do about it. It's just one of those things I'm going to very much enjoy the concert on. I'd hope it's an absolute shit new nil. A new heights if the lobby Detroit and I'll be happy. It's the London stadium. I mean given the given the amount of west Devon finds cheering unlivable, and they'll probably be some kind of parade going on, on the what. What I think the vendor Graham, twin western fans. And watch it in the pubs anyway. 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#364: Correcting the Record

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#364: Correcting the Record

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All right. Good. Nice. How's your bank the weekend? Get any think nothing special. We were was it Franken we can meant to be con- weekend right so of course, there was no carnival. Judah covid. which is a bit of a freak. Incidents. I guess 'cause you know kind of I, don't think combos ever been canceled due to something happening in the world. So blessed me. Yet even compass urban canceled a doubt. If I've been postponed. which which ethnic say's Nabi Hasim Stripping Council. But it might have been postponed about being pushed by a couple of days by biphenyls. Oh Jesus. I'm like a judge. Apologies. The kinda was never been canceled. I don't think for the most. So Berber freak incident and tried to do one of those them. livestream show things were to get people hyped on carnival I didn't which of course goes you know? No one I I don't know. I don't mind watching like a livestream of somebody talking on a podcast or like lifetime of a panel discussion or something. But when someone tries to give me the soul like manufactured fun and tries to make a poly. LIVESTREAM APO-. He just doesn't work out I had to think Asham about a finger I was thinking to myself. You know what? When clubs reopen I, wonder if there'll be a segment of deejays who will start streaming two sets depending on if the pro club permits right some clubs allow you I'm looking at most of the places there but finicky about cameras and phones. Able to go somewhere and just just even maybe recall the audio track at any deaths have the video because maybe that's intrusive. Right? Just have the Ohio streamed via wherever platform using twitter youtube whatever. And Walter Clubs reopened the outcome should it's going to be a segment of the population you're going to be like you know what? I'm comfortable going out just yet and they're gonNA stay indoors but it also gonNA, WanNa, know and kind of be Ab-. They're going to be a bit voyeuristic, right? They're gonNA WANNA kind of have an idea what's going on out there and kind of fuel at their they're one and not there. Of The opposite firm because you get access to one, if that'd be a finger Ford I can imagine it being a thing. I can imagine a couple of trialing it because if you built a ver streaming infrastructure. Now to kind of keep your head above water. Why not just kind of roll out for everybody else that wants to use it right? Especially, if you're a DJ dope mind and you have like a better social media presence and you're plugged them that way, it could be a pretty good option to go forward in it. You could also may be I don't know. Douche Nakata's but you could also. Use his opportunity to maybe give people underground artists. An idea of how Choon. Kind of works in the club maybe there's a way would be some. It'll be a good way to kind of get some feedback on how you're tune work abuse and a Promo Demo to. And then they're playing it live here you clipping point your feed. US As content I duNno I I wonder if that'd be a finger Ford oil who just be like as soon as club up and dashes that go prisoner been and just Australian because of course, you know the last thing you WanNa. Do when you're in a club is for behavior, corporation to ahead in it because you're going to begin to all sorts of nonsense. So I don't know maybe that's the thing may be my lobbying out curious to see what's going to happen before but yeah. No carnival. They did a little lashing thing I didn't listen I didn't check album show some people did. Wonder things. You just have to experience it. You know you can't really couples way because in UK because even when they have these big sponsors I think for a longest time in the UK pov the kind of the in ticket before I kinda plugged in because I came to carnival late in life really a must put most most of the reason why because you know my parents let me go at the time when I was younger said a time when I kind of got a bit older and a my man quote unquote I was finally allowed to go to nine O'CONNELL and when I first introduced to go you stiff via the whole. streetwear fashion crew and they have a very weird way of enjoying themselves right I. Think if we've ever been around people that are involved in fashion effing any kind of subculture the sue any kind of subculture I is when you get involved in the people especially when you're friends with people who are kind of quote unquote. Who acquire quite the taste makers who are. The ones who are not working ministry right eye anyone. Schumer savoring engineering field right. The moment you kinda cross over from being a fan of these people and you start hanging out with the people that are actually making these engine, these products that you're infatuated by engineering field. They sense a fine different. You'll sensor finance right? They tend to be a little bit more like you know there's talk about what's going on to provide. He said this deposition did that finger just dead vibe and even a you get flown out to different places and you get a press pause and get industry events turbo sterile right? Because they've mostly just occasions of network of people to show off. New features to bus about promotions. snus is not necessarily a fan thing is kind of my whole adage where say like you know people obsessed into festivals and stemming side and watching people I finesse dead experiencing if either backstage pass must reason why I'd like to get one. So I can maybe bump into somebody like behind the stage right quick backstage and talking but then most funneled have is just being in a crowd or having a section of the front of the stage where we can maybe marshawn your own have step ammonia trainers but pod is one this actually see to say and I think tyler was the only kind of kind of changed. Right when he goes to festivals, he definitely tries to stand in the photographers are is to stage rebel styles, which they think enough is being cool but. Be Interested Carnival way via of fashion crew you tend to kind of want the hot ticket. Finger entry, which is going to read Bul a stage right way they have this red bull section where essentially free drinks. At one time I went it was free food as well, but it's a very corporate version of Mono, don't get me wrong pretty good is still pretty good Dj's in Still, a better five because you have to kind of fruit actual carnival to get to the red bull section is still is still a thing right It's still finding what it is best carnival and it doesn't really do anything right? It's not really what you want to go there for and in one year when I stayed at home and try to watch via boiler room, it was still. Fun. broncos. Welcome to the great job covering some great camera angles. Everyone will showing out and I think biolog- UK crowded when it comes to carnival time just you know DVD let loose comfortable cameras up you know they kinda shown that new does move new Al Fist gain vide- on it and just prize a fun viewing for years of you in public but again, it's not the same as going. So to try and string. This is actually during this time especially with the current climate people thinking, Hey, this virus thing is affecting her black and Brown people disproportionately. It just doesn't seem like the best thing to do but again I, understand you know you need to. Okay. Maybe it was time into people maybe take people's mind away from what's going on but. I just didn't think it was maybe the smile is finger the best way to kind of Not to remind people miss it. Just it just didn't seem like a thing that WanNa what really Germany? It'd make me. It'd make me miss kind of more than actually do miss it goes. You know I haven't been for what? Maybe? Two to three years. I. Haven't been and. Mostly because you know you just kind of go over it is a young man's game kind of when you in general especially, let you go on a Sunday or something but. I'm never really that. I mean, and then watching that will just think God damn at all actually just going through as may be you know what? Odors, things I'm kind of like over on Snowy Baron you know I'm happy to theon got anymore now suddenly as soon stuff opens up again I'm dead I mean net wherever it's like a NEF Nyack Coco's or some dead out grave someone and middle of I'm going Jemmy soon stuff opening up just to be like you know what I did it. I. Did it once opened up his a think stuff was opened took for granted I think way my experience. Anyway I did every time for granted a Amasho by you guys if ever admit that by no I. Did I, know I did beer thousand eight many my weekend him did a rendering. Did login work state infamous pot wash. A couple of movies will do watch a mentioned grab before what I wish to begin those memorable I washed unreasonable taken. That was good before Ashley when I was again. I didn't take into us. There's a spacefaring grabbed the OH. Oh, I every watch season one of fog. Excellent TV. Again, it just goes to show you just how far that show fell off as an who's to blame. Some is if it's a show runners. Sherman is right is if it's the production company if it just you know you just run out of inspiration but that show was incredible. Man Sees of Fogle was so bloody good. So many performances Probably. One of the best villains on TV. As Germany season one like I. Really recommend you check that out and that was eight man. So it must have more time indoors nothing else was going on really. Same Old Same Old. Violin. What can you do? But anyway hope because a well wherever you are as a usual grab your favorite drink. Some to eat shop on an jam packed show low's of interest in bits and pieces to cover the happened during the weekend I guess across the Internet loads of in new developments. Action packed show to cover. So get on in tune in less go. News number one finding news supposedly some kid in Taiwan tangled up in the kite. go swung around it looks like via his neck a sure. If it was actually NICB away reveries wherever policies body is you must be frankly has that that part of his body that policies? That attached buddy. He should be frank for because Jesus Look Scary It looks scary. It's also very questionable as to why all the adults in the vicinity I just video recording thing and not offering any kind of assistance. Now don't get me wrong. It is a kid stuck in a kite. There's not much more you can do right you kind of have to hope you just comes down eventually but the amount of really recovers just like you know marveling at the side of this little just being you know swung from pillar to post quite literally is really really hilarious and play if you know. Might See. Now. I'm not sure if it's gone. A merger attached neck feels attached tweets arm. Mention my arm by doing things his arm. Ages ago, but it's definitely neck and it's just God Almighty. I guess the good thing is most likely. You know there's going to be somebody in the that vicinity especially in the Far East countries on be somebody does you know has some sort of a Medical experience that can render some help because it does anywhere else. You know maybe a little a place, maybe less affluent be some Republicans. Kids are madness in right. Kids are madness. You take your often for one second suddenly literally. that. Ten, fifteen feet. Gained swung around by a kite on a day out like you can't really blame. The parents are don't think that is, can you can you the parents but they do wrong? I. Don't see what it figures literally, he could have just been. candyfloss to the mountains for one second to say I to on Jane across the way and then turn back around the kids. The kids fee up in the air. Absolutely. That is insane. Makes me love the screen's always made me laugh in this loafing here women screaming in the back a natural reaction. So when we just a scream as if that's going to somehow kind of you know. Do anything that's going to cut some resolve. The situation is those screams. High Pichler patient have like if he saw swinging loaded scream moisture, they're screaming. Lowest, some very bizarre wits deal with the situation this again, what can you do it? You can't get some kid to just walk cloud victory in Acrobat put him down to the ground that's not gonNa work either. You know kind of reminds me of video the old. Lady I was trekking somewhere in the middle of the desert as she gets into somehow helicopter concentrate and pick her up they. They own those bad things to kind of place that an hospital you know to take some momentum attention and somehow she starts spinning out and I think she pauses I like seven or eight times or something gruesome because you find that the ladies I. You know she's probably an old age pensioner maybe of sixty and she's already injured. You know for the first place and she just saw spinning and Lucky doesn't happen to escape because I think you know if you were spun anymore definitely will go down at the video if it's actually been a pastries. Is Neck of his arm. That is nuts. Absolutely. been swung around like. That kind of reminds. The first time you're gonNA rollercoaster and you have that memory just I is kind of back to you Rebecca Joe Skull and Suffolk. I'm GonNa Faint in and boom. You're out you up again and you at. The end of the rollercoaster and again did happen to me, but it does happen to some people. So scary man. Cable, just casually walking up his job as well. So you know what? It's also nice to see that some countries are reopened. Worthy of actually had the possibility to have kids get you know dragged from pillar persaude casino. Countries like. The ones I made at the moment. That's not s never going to happen and I think there's a final angle of this. This is what I think. This shows at the start of it may be. So, this guy is pretty big supreme big sky is on the Windy Day a machine they plan for this, right? Windy. Day in Taiwan Gilda, kites out get family out day family day I would say shit. This is maybe equivalent like is irresponsible levels is equivalent taking your kid to a fireworks exhibition. Like a local in the park club is cool for kids to see. But it's also the you know the possibility that they could get hidden ahead. You know the I could get blown out effort blown out of their face via watching a couple of rockets local park. But I'm sure there's this is a confetti professional preparation. Just goes flyer look a high is Oddly enough to kids our age he dropped would you have really broken anything probably to a couple of bruises kids our age I'll just you know they're made a rubber in it, but still this horrifying but just imagine the parents. Let you turn your back for. Common saying that you can't turn your back on kids for two seconds. Dis is proof of it. This video of that kid that climbed out of his. Window was on the balcony hanging off of it. Is Insane. Insane. Home. My High. I'm sure someone's control. Why couldn't they just bring him Dan quicker but Shumita you can control the front bit and in the web the tail section is that's just the one that makes the. That's Kind of. That's the entertainment section on machine of the Cairo. The bit that people controlling embiid. So it's hard to baby steer to the ground I'm assuming. We'll reaching a hand up. My. Phones the phones at the phones. Look at the phone just staring at this kid look the funds look at them. Oh. This is going to die. tyskie going to die did that just look at staring? Spacemen aliens or finger on the side. This Hotel. This is maybe the reason why people like hotel because of stuff like this, you just don't WanNa, take the chance. Blood Yeoman. Shocking stab face. Yeah. But get into that kid frears zones and I'm sure he's gained a lava chest hairs go through day experience because say that say at least and in another. Pretty hilarious video eyebrow or something that has kind of re struck a nerve with me. Because I guess I come from the service industry right of my most experiential most. The time in my life I guess working wise that really benefit the most working service Industry Pacific in retail right that's where I kind of grew up. I saw made a lot of friends I. saw of appreciate I. Saw I saw got the respectful what known appreciate? Yeah. Gained a deeper respect. What rule hard work is all about again, understanding of how to treat humans or high went to be treated and just generally gained a different appreciation for just Living, existing and pointed roof of your head and because I think when you're younger especially for me coming from that kind of creative industry wit people can be entitled in it. It can feel as if like the world kind of Os and things some independent where you go but know for me what I went to Saint Mine's people like that. There's of entitlement like you feel as owed issue owed debt because you started here and because your friend is that person because you into this part you and really in life. Yoni Galvin what you really into it right Of Life Hot. With Yoga willing to commit and really for the most part of people that are the most talented. Usually on the ones that go to service issues, you was ido get diarrhea able to kind of synthetic for something everybody committed learning about it inside and out and just walk the hours and and do to work with any sort of. Recognition Pass on the back and just kinda slow go away and eventually to give give an opportunity to show out So whenever I encountered somebody working environments who assist painted Niaz on APPs addicted a win out of their way to be rude or didn't. Try to be at to understanding or try to kind of you know big time you or make you seem as if you're irrelevant or that you're insignificant because you working in this kind of lowly position wherever you may be everybody showed me about the person and I think is a common thing. You hear especially amongst women sometimes they'll say, Oh, if you're in a first date with somebody, take him to a very public place where you're going to be. Surrounded by the Pacific every busy restaurant somewhere like a tgi Friday's or something and see how they act to see how they kind of maneuver see how they come interact with people, and I'll tell you by the person that's true up in. That can be said for even your friends you know the way your friends treat Ah, prime RETO system will say law about how? A, person and I don't have any patients with people who grew to service people especially when it comes to working in big faceless corporations or to starbucks right Where don't get me wrong I thomas the most has a pretty good reputation on like some companies full. Work treatment. I think most people go in day knowing exactly what they do is they know what? What the kind of level of work especially to do Deputations are quite clear You know we have to do. So you kind of bring you a game we do the work and you just leaving it right there's nothing more expected of you not regard, but it gives for the customer sake of it. You have to kind of understand as well for the most Paulo people working those kind of places are transient workers at different show period of time, pick up a check posts a Munyaneza pocket. Support for college whatever may be right there but it's rarely do you mean there's not a lot people especially in terms. Even, in shops and some pretty popular brands, there's a very small percentage. I'll say maybe twenty percent of the people that there who actually go in there wanting to kind of used as a way to kind of what the way up to company. Like I, WanNa be area manager I WANNA be a marketing something usually people just what those jobs because you know it pays menace waiting to get the time it doesn't require much experience. Right does require much brainpower either so can kind of do it working out? So there should be understanding that hey, you know this is the thing. Height help. And also, I don't enforce the rules right when you walk in those places, you don't you don't. You don't you don't kind of lay out the the refund policy right is set in stone and kind of pasta and you just enacted. You're basically like a soldier right? You just kind of follow orders you have no say whatsoever, you might be able to kind of run things up the chain and Kinda report back to your leader was still. Even your manager in your store there the day report into somebody else who has more forty and Mazda in what you'll shop does especially, if you compare starbucks WanNa to be like this of this guy who puppy went into a starbucks. Knowing full well that he campaigned by cash to pay by Card and trying to make some Stan as if like you know, I will not allow these Cooper company to dictate to me how I pay for things. Right I don't know if he's one of the people pay by Card. They can attract me and they're gonNA have data and data to knowing, and it's just a purposeful wind up your privacy to store to piss somebody off together and last nerves to make them agitated and just to cause them a whole above because ended a. Video, he doesn't end up paying for it because the the the the cash econ except for payment because they're accepting card a actively stealing a body Panini in starbucks, right? And causing the employees a whole world above especially when this video goes viral and corporate season, and that's a West things what can. You hardly any support from head office especially. If the response 'cause usually the response on social media is like you know what it's like. It's like nothing can right? It's probably five or six people complaining. But for the most part, most people go to that store will know what the rules on just comply. Right it's no big issue. It's just a it's a noisy minority that make a stink and unfortunately most. Corporate companies were consoles, service industry. They just react to end. They don't want any trouble when he has also derogatory hey, get a refund or Asian apology or get them around Poucher. Benny as soon as they can ri- always kind of they kind of believed that mantra. Or they die on metro all the customer's always right. So usually depending on what the crime is, sometimes, it can come in by unions right. You can stand your ground and think that you're kind of maintaining standards or you're going by the letter of the law or you're going to according to Compassi really no company policy isn't that can't be that you don't. Want, they don't want people in the store is going to keep us. They don't have I remember the don't be embarrassed Ebola anything that's going to affect essentially bomb dollar in the stock market, and this is kind of one example of somebody kind of explain that every second person it just driving woman hate people that this I think is really terrorize you to have. Cash cashless payment says Hugh Eagle. Donkeys already go one does kind of head comes on knowing always into. Your home and she's Benita. Can you possibly scanner and you can come us? No I don't need to give you my name to buy. Of course. Something on name already is being a obtuseness like you don't need to be. So confrontation, she just going through the checkless of. Realize when you wake and retail. Industry job you know compensation should these are just kind of actions that you do to know to complete a transaction. Sometimes it's just it's just an automatic you run down you know how can I help you welcome to the CAN. Help you. About blow will get you order. It's just a random self commodities running through unto the point where you have to kind of exchange money. This isn't like conversation Hake I. Take Her name Oh. I love you had this conversation should just pause the or the other of the kind of. The Dante have to do in order to kind of compete your transaction. Most customers are worth this right there where just keeping maybe how young good no problem. You don't just go how you like Oh, I should have had a poor way just got fired him governed dumped me. Now you know what the game you just say I'm good fine. Thank you. Hope you're good city. I'm good on a problem and just keep it moving. That's what you usually do but this doesn't when I'm just looking me and I'm looking at walkout. Confrontational Sita's cash podlike. There's Kosh legal panel your. Friend I'M SO These coins he'll. And anyone. WHO's you my friend? My brother is where he's going to be some patronizing dickhead. Legal, tender is a private business if they don't WANNA take cash to take cash. And he's going to cause a stir to what gear moment posts don't want these. Stupid. CHICA-. Libertarian flipping facebook groups. As you can see there is. Legal tender. Scott. Social Line Code. So I'm GONNA leave payment. Okay. LESS THAN POW I'M GONNA leave you pay and I. Even left. Left your. For your pain and your service to say, thank you. To payment. Thank you for the. Good by. Lesson my friend. Listening, but that is my payment Anita. TASHA's question. Okay. Muffin. Also. CARE. Fisher. Respect is ashes even pointing out to them if you want. Bad. You want to pay cash go to TESCO's. He's and this is the issue. Same people go into shops in America and they WANNA know where a mosque right I don't want to wear masks annoying is a hassle to way uncomfortable. It makes your life a living nightmare I get it but just go to a place where it doesn't that lets you masks find one that does it all if what normal adults do suck it up? Put It on get shopping and leave and take away like that's why I'm doing a moment. You're not likely to catch coronavirus walking the streets right but you must you're going to catch it being endorsed somewhere. There's put on February period of time like this guy just set. The rules are what they I just such a bizarre. I had the same issue of people who go to base this. And imagine if you like you know for instance, you can obviously take your laptop. Have a coffee unusual, use the Internet but you're going to look up there with your desktop computer plugging by any coffee. Cup of employees tell you hey, you have to yet to you have the you have to. Pay For pay for some food or drink not using service. That's the same liberal annoyance Gustaf is because it just you you're Pepsi being of choose your Pepsi being obnoxious your Percy being a Dick and essentially making this. Innocent. Sales assistant or cashier or Barista wherever they. To starbucks life a living nightmare and again caused them extra stress and a job. They already WanNa do McCain from experience I've had multiple workings. Positions are transit workers. People are just coming in to pay their bills and keep it movin. There was not people twenty five percent of people who are using it as a way to kind of get into the company fruited backdoor at what they up to go into upper management. Cool. Blisters Zippy to fight him quite quickly. Why to see even management in no to pick Geico this cowgill knows what they're doing. I'm GonNa make manager I mean. No one makes the blood weekend worker as eighteen just working to buy to have money to buy video games, you don't make that personal quixote 'cause reliability. You might the person's actually turning up on time his being kind of. Proactive who's maybe showing some leadership potential you gift Hurson the keys. It's just annoying. But again, most people are there to work a job and look at the hassle you closeness person look at the hassle out of spending. Less than other he. Him Out starbucks but the Panini aimed at gray. Slip that. Great. It's not worth this. It really is A. Less Fan I'm going to say okay. You have. To say. What legal? It's the government who decided sex. Okay. Listen. One question. Okay. Because I am not running away I am not stealing from you guys. Okay. All listen I'm asking the question. Can you just tell me? Yes, I'M GONNA please. I'M GONNA walk out here just now. Okay. Are you going to form the less than? Can you say? Yes, not are you going to form the police when I leave payment because if you are I run a week I will wait here for the piece but it is the payment Imagined the entitlement of a guy that wants to walk into starbucks. Refuse. To pay to payment method today exception. Get the person in as working they're doing. He's you know transaction in trouble and it also is willing. To wait for the police to come so you're taking the police away from dealing with actual crime preventing mud's solving murders, preventing people getting raped kids getting kidnapped. Right. A violent abuse whatever's going on around in the world you take away from that just so addicted dress your Panini gay situation, and again opinion hasn't even been toasted. He's that much of a wally. They walk into starbucks to Gab a shelf temperature Panini. and. That's he's Kinda stand politic. That's his political stance. Yeah. Bad Boy. What an idiot. Case and I'M GONNA leave. Does not payment listen as my payment and I am leaving. Thank. You got him up. Listen. My thing. Accusing me of stealing. Money on your. Lesson I am not stealing from you. Cayman Vadis for you for your payment you said. Thank you very much. I bet this guy's a hell of a hell of a hang to hang out with in. You know for sure this guy's the was pessimistic or holiday the worst person to go out on a drink after work right the kind of person that's going to be counting the amount of things they ordering a mill in on the menu because a restaurant right deducting the amount that they pay via in terms of tips on you go a couple of star is Blah Blah Blah Blah. Blah running away when his day around and going to toilet not a pleasant so they don't have to buy the is. Saying they don't want to buy certain things and in one think arrives intern take sentencing from if you know what I mean, you know this guy's like this is a law by somebody if you WanNa win this for sure there's people in your life who cared for you say you know what? He's not the best hang. He's not the best company going out for show he's the best colleague, right? Just painful painful to see. Get I don't know man maybe it's covert. Angry bitter just sad to see us kind of Reducing ourselves citizen that we should just be of kind of rallying around each other if anything right. You should be going into a place like starbucks and maybe being a little bit. More Compassionate for the people that are working behind the till because you know damn and you have no way of working from, you have to be here. So I wanNA make your life as humic as painless and pain-free a stretch me as I can because I know is probably freaking you out just being here Ryan seeing these many this many strangers coming in front of you, and then you know listening to twenty four hour news cycle telling you that you're GonNa die you're GonNa die you're GonNa die not want WanNa do is remind you of that right I wanna make your experience as effortless as I can as painless as I can. You go into and you just you like a Ninja Finger Duck you don't accuse him any grief but no some people why she went to up the ante and kind of you know really closely, whatever endings a nervous breakdown. That will what a piece of shit. Really what he's a Shampoo Hagan what can you do man? The world is made up of different individuals in that we all kind of our planet to at some kind of legacy behavior. Can You? Under from. Mentioned it my club I. Love Dearly, have finally agreed a fee to sign a player of notoriety to add to our. Squad and team full of woke class plays not. But yeah, we finally signed somebody. We finally decided to put our finger out and address a glaring Cole scored not don't get me wrong. It's the signing I would've wanted right now it probably isn't going to be enough this sign. We have base a good step in the right direction but this has been some interesting blowback or feedback and just compensation around the signing potential signing up of. Donna Vanderbeek from I xe might not have agreed a faith five point seven, million fee for him and reaction from the fan base of United's very strange where really odd fan base for a big club. Doesn't seem to be a coherent narrative or coherent kind of A. Coherent. Doesn't seem to like a collective view on wed rule our in our team all Huda kind of corporate off oil out current demise all who's to blame all yet is it it just seems to change depending on who people of favor the motion he saw team or in our team specifically, which is very strange. I never seen that before a mature if it's a consequence of being so. Crap over the last decade or so. This always been day or I'm not sure if this is A. Natural reaction to so much success in the beginning regardless is very odyssey as kind of devolve in a way where some people are questioning the validity of signing somebody compared to some people are saying that he's not necessary in scores of saying that. Star was the point some people are saying that he's going to replace Pug Bush very, very odd depressions, ray opinions from fan base of people that you'd expect a bit better from especially considering the levellers place you've been used to seeing and level of winning we've been using to behave oh, can you do? So let's go from the guidance as mentioned I of agreed if I if I point five, seven, million, five, point five, point, seven, million fees and Tony Bennett be from x says mentioned night. Every agreement From I. Don't Vanderbeek. The fees thirty, five point seven. Mil, which is forty million euros plus add-ons with pestle terms. Agreement Neville has been filled on the deal until twenty, twenty, five of course, big up for peace. Romano he booked story and audio her English journeys jumped on a disguise spoils muppets started to act like into now not. Van Because attracted interest from several European top clubs in could indeed. Having exited side of a depository seasons we roll Madrid and Barcelona among those who have linked. With Attorney Free Euro Diese Mumps. United however beaten the Spanish clubs to the player having been in touch with his agent and maintaining strong links at every division club. Thanks a former go committed by the saw who is chief executive. The transfer should be completed this week round the beaks. Scored forty one goals in one just. Because I team having joined the eleven year old and having been tracked by Tottenham Darren developments that keep him out of the section dykes manager Eric. Ten Hawk said, we will see what happens will make an announcement soon as there's more clarity, the fact that he did not play, there's an indicator under Chris, to not lame play competition for one side, we do that to give a agreements have been made about possible transfer, and if that's possibly arises, you must also cooperate. And contains the signing of vanderbeek would be creek for my an illegal social you want to show me options before you season and took over potential signing of Jeff Stolman I've to be resolved while that's also market for new centreback so. I guess on one side of it. You could be happy if you're night fan for myself I am happy. I think we needed to replace under Herrero who I think the even the biggest puzzle you're going to fill that position because I think he's versus how insanely way hundred was probably has a lot more technical ability and maybe more skillful plan or maybe more talented than the Harare. But that position of under hero was very vital I wasn't for himself. I wasn't. I wasn't on the people that were happy when we saw them in the first place I fully should have gone above and beyond to try and keep the club after we made a last bid contract Renewal to try and get to stay but he didn't think of contract was matched kind of own impression of of himself. So he kind of went over the PSG and of course you know we saw him played in the Champions League point previous performs for somebody everyone thinks his shit Bob Adam briefing to I. Think he's GonNa Strips and I think when used well, he's a great nation to a squad regardless he goes sold and I think we were missing that player because you know Scott, McDonnell blesses effort heart and identification, but he's not anywhere near the level of Harare and he's not even come to full potential of his own playing style every day is himself anyway so. I. Still Think we needed a first team senior player to come in who would be a viable option to deputise for the likes of Paul Pogba Bruno whenever they get injured or suspended or just to add a bevy tation to site. If you're GONNA mix things up even play as a deep lining playmaker number six all Matija. Benfica's shrimp produce him was a box of. Books play who is deputy for the likes of POGBA and Bruno, but I could definitely see social acted deciding to put him as number six, suffolk heaven worship few videos of his him playing. You've seen him more the number six you seen him way to number eight number ten is assuming that versatility is what probably peaked social interest, but then on top of that. An issue I have with is that I still think there's some other issues of areas of the pitch where we need to address left still need a viable option. There are the I'm not a believer Lou short and he's been at the club enough for me to come to the conclusion is never going to be good enough to play for my night I. Don't think he's good nothing to play for another top site talk for side often keys time has been in gone L. Brennan. Williams's option is the answer evolving could copy. Is Young he's oversee col potential. But at the moment we need a senior member of our squad to fill that position. What's Kinda, give us an outlet at the flanks or at fullback because if we decide that we're going to stick with I don't remember cycle long-term who isn't the best on the bull by is popular the defenders in the League in a position after we need to have on the other side and out fool by who can attack that flank. An provide some support for tekken four's especially on the counter. And we also need a centreback will see wasted. Money or higher maguire inquires an eighteen million. Pound defender an under any circumstances, but we have to pay the English tax and. It, it goes to show because we now have to look for another centreback to compliment him thinking another top side if you're playing for. Let's say even if you pay Man City I think Maguire position will be questioned if you pay for man. City. Because performances have been very questionable He's ton of paces not they're all. He's turning circles there and he's a little slower than my wife imagined him to be actually. Play less maybe less I had a different way of playing that may be more compact. So he didn't really see deficiencies in pace, but I didn't think it was that slope anyway. Regardless we need a partner for Harry Maguire we also need a number of a person to fill in for Matych especially snap position as especially diem who can deputise maybe a setback, one of our cinemax injured and has that kind of defensive knowledge or defensive kind of mindset on what kind of stay home whenever is attacking adopting Option. Still Genius specialists and then we also need somebody in my opinion who's going to push maybe compete with Rashford on the right hand side flank, which is if wherever that's essential or somebody else. That's maybe not. As signing, we definitely need somebody the right hand side that can kind of you know we can rotate around because as bad as Daniel James has kind of played in last since the restart I still paint as a place for him. Especially function inside. You can still put in New James and maybe with about coaching with the next manager at this current manager, you could maybe get out than Jane's but I think in a current system when you deputise. James. When he when you take off Rashford, important James D dropping qualities to low is too much. I think if you have somebody else to fill the flanks who's not performing as well or maybe you know, sorry isn't maybe as a big name but can perform to that level I. think that will go a long way to kind of push older place not hey, you're is up for grabs and also provides infants will options go forth. So those two positions I think needs to be addressed more Tony Brown beak but I get it. As a player of his of his quality cons market he's versatile. You'RE GONNA have to stop him. Oh, you're going to have to buy. It may compete sense and definitely does Kinda fit allowed gaps that we have going forward in our team Then the issue comes that people are saying that he's going to replace Poulsbo Bruno just funny because Brinda the moment is like the May night. So back lovechild for for just reasons I think he did come in and had that sort of cancer Norfolk in terms of he's such a quality piece such a step above what we already have that he was bound to call some kind of reaction, but we didn't. I don't think anyone can on US getting. That liberal amount of penalties and converted them. So well, you've had such a good impact in the final word and always kind of looking for the adventures bull even though you kind of wasted position. I think that obviously was a good signing in terms of you know that whole coach will reset. They keep talking about right. That's spending. Keep given us a good is a good reputation of it. He was a coach Reza because he. Raised a petition again. People inside to kind of talk about, Hey, we need to actually start wing wingtip gopher trophies we combat before because we had a Bruno Fernandes, and it wasn't willing Pogba, and in some of some friends located on the program because Bruno. Of course, in as many places, you can get hold of and published a once in a generation play to setting pope and trying to replace him I don't trust our board trust Scott in department to do that in competent waste rubber, keep hold of public and I still think is one of our most important plays in your regardless complement each other really well, and if you add enough Defensive midfielder may be to kind of deputize for Madij when he's injured when he needs rotation, you got pretty solid midfield. Now, defense is a bit shaky but I think if you get the midfield soy doubt and allow us to kind of create and hold the boo a bit more because I'm not really a fan of the counter attacking football playing in the normal is still seen as bit myth among fan of that way of playing because I. Think you know as soon as somebody defense against US alot block we kind of another fide. Once we have ball playing midfielders in midfield and we have competent and ready deadly strikes playing affront we can probably offset the amount of goes. He might leak with our lack of pace at the back all with our lack of commanding setbacks and wherever they may be Again happy with signing I'm looking happy race any signing that comes through we need a lot more place to kind of step in in the senior mentor and kind of take the reins. But you know it's a good sign going Ford again it's. It's funny. Spin from unites US usual just went the precious. Album you sing comes at Chelsea signing. Every played, they need in a petition that's necessary that it into the first team or they go on the bench a think of course, the board saw all the negative press that they were going to generate. So the decided to kind of Polo. About the hat and Kinda give us find a peak but this isn't enough we need more and hopefully we see that in the next couple of weeks. Oh Yeah. The season sooners also in Cedar Pretty Soon Pre sharpish and of course you've got. Another example of white people stop watching or listening to curb make mainstream sport show just sky sports and listened stuff like, Tokyo. Which is actually listened to backing there before franchise worshiping. Is. To. The time I even had. The kind of digital radio wherever application on my phone. So you can listen to Taku Day since I a colon and ran about stuff and navigate on right you go to a point where I was really angry about something and muffing. But that one they said Hey wall strongly do in it. Then he doesn't you know they're doing some purpose they pepsi make you WanNa call in they basically just you know day essentially troll you before I even you're trolling was right or they had the shock jocks on there I who Kind of puppy say the most insane things give to cool up and responded all your mind. It's just a complete failure but sometimes, they also people under who generally have really dumb full opinions and I guess fan channels of basic expose because Francesa's have shown especially, if you watch people inventions who are bit reasonable route say like you know, grumpy ricky from the United Center example maybe Adam McCullough from chef padded housing can be a little bit. You know he can. He can be a little bit weird sometimes but that's Fine channels who you look. Okay. This guys are reasonable fan pre rational one who kind of give a very, well balanced view on his team pros and cons. Right is not kind of you know widdly have you know roasts in specs on if it comes through the team? And they can give some really interesting points of view and missing. Trip because this sounds on talksport play for flocking fallen for seventeen million times doesn't make their opinion any more valid in a fan baggers the game or of just what extremes on the Internet. Right were all fans of football were most of US anyway, which you have to question somebody on this station at our finger she fanciful buffing they just enough just get paid to talk about us what they do but some of the opinions complete Gabriela Francis Danny Murphy. Says supposedly because we signed Vanderbeek now polk was going to be going. It's like Whoa. To get into bunks go, we've seen he's technically good and he he's an around kind of energetic midfielder box to box type. Playing with fanaticism. POLKA. You really think that general. I. Think I think the public will bill. that. Signs says POGBA OFF WHY WOULD YOU buy? A player WHO's an agreement To attacking me food as ECON Priam? Oh. Is is idiotic doesn't even need a statement but I suppose livable while Liverpool be linked to geography and a half Beena could you compli buffet? A missing time is the same logic. It's just so brained it Most top teams have top players to deputise for the top players Mike injured. You always need quality. That's the main pieces happening now with Antony Cantera. Inter Milan right. He wants a key wants a sign better place get them over chance to be able to win this area by the owners like Hey we've already signed eleven. How many more do you need as I look I need more anymore anymore anymore An idea that somehow Paul was going to leave because then event beat came in is insane because unions look at a transfer market at the moment to knew that the plays of Pope was level aunt moving the way they were moving in a pass because there's no of teams out that can pay their wages or justify the transfer fee goods import name. Oh. Yes. He'd missed out on the Champions League. Riot away realistic. He could he go. If he leaves peer she doesn't many places that could afford these wages. So yes, estate until the market may be improved until covert cells and people back stadiums or comes can generate a cash award support a transfer, but he's not going anywhere. Gareth Bale is still sitting on the stands in rummage. It's on my letting he's seven hundred wherever M.'s weeks I mean found his a week Kushner. Now there's another good option is what if it does do? End Up not winning too busy for a second season as our events where else can legitimately go there's no place. There's all PLO place that he plays Kengo and POGBA. Eighty nine I'm going to be domino's Leeann go for less than what they paid. So you're going to have a club coming to pay one, hundred, million M.'s for player. Post covert right not much revenue generated for most of these teams and with the maybe extra scrutiny of financial fair play. There's not going to do it again we united we already suffering already. You know prior to Bruno coming people saying that we needed to sign eleven plays Elvis Center we signed to and we don't need puggle anymore. It's like what? and. Again, people get paid to have these opinions. But again, I'm a big believer in most people especially. especially. Some of the pundits token has any sport shows most vicious bonar business. If you know, they were around when football was like Gina. What was there will probably let's say is it could you say could get then Danny Murphy and stuff they were playing era when? It was probably harder to make. It may be to be successful in. The whole of talent playing around, there's a talent in the premier league or in Europe by and large Anthony. Murphy was. An is pump and play of the quality nowadays would be on easy eight eight maybe depend if you pay for my in my night, any would definitely be one hundred grand if to Jones can get north of that. Then for short any murphy be an underground weeks. So there's definitely bear jealousy. In the idea that you know they were kind of boy in the wrong era and the these young players who have kind of achieved an inch of what the name of his achieve again paid way more than he is and a commanding such. Such high transfer fees, but some of the opinions when it comes to footage. So baffling man really baffling and I don't know maybe it's a it's the thing that we should just be currently aware of behaviors. What is then. There was this really funny news about him and it's kind of fun up. So this guy go to a quote Mike Sinton who's what what is he? He is a senior executive at the NBC Universal and Hollywood's ultimate insider supposedly leads some news out going to be a new proposed law in the UK that would make celebrities label as edited celebrities with. Labor as photos personal instagram. I felt members of parliament said Eddie photos instagram are fueling a mental health crisis because they're creating a whoop sense of beauty which is. Equity Right. Not True. It's a very interesting field again, not being a woman I. Don't really know what this is about, but is very interesting that. For the most part from my experience, most women are aware of the women who are public, who kind of have had worked done. It's just a common thing laughing around the social media water cooler most women know who's GonNa work who has had welcome this pre evidence to see the telltale signs they can see someone goes dockland social a bit doesn't posting pictures of themselves. Maybe they're post-surgery maybe they're purse what mood noninvasive in whatever is they have these little tells I haven't found that there's a tell to find somebody Leiper as he. So to have on the side of their waste or something, he can tell somebody got bad leipold under the. So there's things that you can tell. So I'm always surprised me when people especially uses image of suffering. That's the kind of controversy. was that these Hughes, the image of clinical news kind of been the face of this. Edited Pictures. Online. where she kind of is a picture so much that you don't even recognize her especially even more sad I guess for is guesses. This is a sad state of affairs because most people would refer to. Kurkish. Being an attractive woman surf to see somebody of her level of attractiveness resort re. Reduce themselves to edit pitches this much makes you feel a bit you know. Whatever she's going through now head must be horrible right? But we know what the deal is. Just come out and say, Hey, this is me I did this I did that work and just keep moving this idea that women have to kind of pretend like they didn't edited pictures or Hucknall. Is Very strange and Wednesday happening is that when they get out didn't of resort saying the the victim and say ham being bullied this is why don't say nothing I really with cyclical thing. But. The soon, most women know what the issue is in and then he followed up and said Hey I went to test Takata should've using her furhter as example in this week, it was a random choice I could've used any thousands of people how I quit even use my own wishes. I. Guess they got they got reached out and talked to kind of take that down but she's a she's a big corporate when it comes this kind of thing, and again it's is sending the wrong message kids but other for kids that naive I don't think teenagers attorney. I think most teenage girls know that she pitchers and she fashions and does whatever she does and I think multiply eager to. CNN example regardless or just see as a woman who's GonNa love kind of body and self image issues which you know is again, a consequence of work social media Ryan, posting yourself online every single day seeking your approval of strangers is definitely, GonNa you to do some break questionable things and again it's just it's bizarre because it's not like you know the pitch on a leftist her. Looking like an Oga right? She still looks very attractive and very appealing to most men in the right. It's just another lady to it's just whatever your taste is not like one is more attracted than you're out say I duNno outside point of view. But it's just interesting to see members of parliament get involved in trying to inet law as if. Social media is built primarily on the idea of faking your lifestyle somewhere shape or form. What next are they going to? Require people to keep to post their holiday pitchers one holiday. That, some people, Papacy. pitchers went on holiday bank them or kind of stretched out of a longer period of time than they wonder actually out they even tagging location. So they come back from ib and he just started posting a series of pitches for a period of two weeks. Making seems if they're away somewhere else when there was some awesome what they are, hey, you stood out there they won't reply to the message just keep the Pepsi be mysterious and Aloof people do that all the time we going to you're going to you're going to write into law that people should be posted pictures on the data they're on holiday, right? My this is insane like let people if they want people onto present themselves in another light. They WANNA Pepsi alternate face to face their body. Everyone knew on social media. There are no rules. It is what it is an act. Most people are aware that what you see on social isn't always true, right? Especially, some of these characters are a good example, right? No Carolina, not current encounter accounting counter some encounters. Hey. That person was being vivid day can just because somebody said something in public doesn't make them Omega Karen. Some of the police canvassing in the states are another important right because you also, she doesn't necessarily tell you the whole entire story. So we know that is a doctorate platform. We know is a platform that kind of. Tap into people's insecurities your and essentially kind of does damage especially young women a lot but Ryan this into law is just insane and again using the corrections as examples Sasha easy such a such. An easy target is low-hanging fruit address anything ready because again, if she wants to tune her face up, she wants to alter way she looks come to make us feel more comfortable. Who say anything about it let's go live in it is. What is we know we? We know what actually look cycle juicy Pitas of. At the moment Yukon. Facing you videos to the same level. You can't pictures but trust me when they do y'all is going to continue as well. There's a reason why people catfish because it fills good right Good to be like, Hey, I'm getting a sense of violation people that I didn't think I could get myself because I've altered the way that I look Auto Pepsi Metalitz people is what it is and this is another version of catfish. It's not as bad as pretending you're mix race when you're while something part, you know it's the same level is kind of innocent ballpark and it is what is Yeah one that one radioed by. Politicians always not to use that time wisely. Not. and. I went to update. This is a very interesting know interesting. It's very funny funny. Update. Regarding. The Kyle Rittenhouse situation. Yemen my my my video. I posted about it reacted to news love interesting feedback and for the most part absolutely Dan votes hell. No He. was farms onto how right people don't smashed like they smashed the opposite of the like on video but regardless of that comets were really constructive, which was nice to see people kind of I think. So kind of understood via my first video regarding the corporate situation, Dow's only reacting based on the information I had at that time and mostly based on the information I was given or that I listened to via dementia media unfortunately, I kind of looked into that and. Kind of go sucked into that orb and really lead up what was going on and really kind of delving deeply into it and once I did man oh man did I get it wrong man oh, man did I get it wrong and this is a retraction or correction is just most of an to say that, hey, I got the first bit I got the first video completely wrong this idea that somehow he was this neo Nazi that went down to. This area in Kenosha to go and you know set the black people stray in. Dallas indiscriminately enter crowds and kill men people wasn't sure He obviously went there with some good intentions and unfortunately as does happen in these riots. Finger Spa Control and before he knew he was having to defend himself against a mob. So wherever the narrative though trying to spin on the mainstream media to try and make him seem one way isn't necessarily true and what makes really difficult as well to kind of. To kind of digest is that it seems like. Looking especially from my my experience of dealing with this online and just reading the story. It seems finance. I look in shaping a UK guy it seems that the media and the US purposely causing division amongst the population they're purposes stoking this fire they purposely making it an sp dem situation, right? which is really bad because you can. You think especially now with covid that it'd be a little more of a collective spirit right above like, Hey, let's listen stop pointing fingers HIV to stop trying to blame our neighbors for our ills. They're stopped trying to turn this into a race war and maybe try unite right so that we can come out of the side right because they don't. Have, healthcare the US right people having to pay our focus will so so ready lows of issues I saw videos of people in certain states, queuing up foodbanks, people that had people that weren't necessarily desolate on I have to go to to kind of feed their children. Stimulus checks are running out people aba to get benefits like people haven't paid rent in mumps I is a really Really, really bleak situation in America from us. All right people suffering suffering for real sorta come to to be in that position and have the media Pepsi amid some some piece of the story in order to kind of service narrative in order to get people angry in order to cause division is just heinous beyond belief and. The solutions and I don't know what they're trying to do because this is if this was their optus, was their way trying to get people to wake up to vote for trump is gonNA have the opposite effect offering I think if anything this these riots and and this vigilantism people going, you know ominous themselves to protect their local community 'cause I feel like they have novel option is definitely going to. Afghan, to make trump a more viable candidate for reelection as opposed the opposite I, think right for the most part most sensible people would be like you know what the players already on fire. Last thing we need is entire new regime to come in. We have to stick with this guy for the most part and let him Rian. Him kind of reinstate law and order as heaps right in on. Again. Trump's dealing with right I think he is kind of this hands off approach where he's kind allowing the country to burn isn't allowed to go about it. Yes. Maybe the governor's got to blame in the perspective states but Jesus Christ me you're not helping the situation helping they purposely made this house look like some white nationalist right that went there to pepsico and caused damage when that was on the fact all and Covington House lawyers restatement basically talking about such basically outlining exactly what happened I read it you know. So, says from the National Review Carbon US luxury statement it says off the confidence she's worked as a community lifeguard in Kenosha. He is ready right away. So they made it seem like you cross state lines you. He's already there he went to help clean up some old damaged some damage. So he a friend went to public high school to remove graffiti by writers later in a data received information about a call. For help from local business owner whose downtown, Kenosha auto dealership with destroyed by move. Videos right. Call. Completely engulfed in flames. Next Day era think is you know a shot and burned to the ground and it just ran off completely right like people's businesses like the life you know the blood sweat and tears or something that they've kind of brought especially during these times imagine isn't sold that many caused during covert and you completely burning is just not on events need help to protect his what he what he had left of his life work including to nearby mechanic shop cow and a friend on themselves rifles due to the deadly violence gripping Kenosha Emini of cities. Business permissive weapons in Wisconsin and never cross state lines again, something didn't point that in the meteorite they made it seem like, Oh, you cross state lines. He wasn't even from day. He was there with a friend is a local is no community friend lives there much your community as is his. Anything I'm guessing they're going to be able to charge him on or to get. They're going to be picky about maybe the misdemeanor of him being a under eighteen and having rifle right that might be something that he probably going to get caught up on. But his idea that he went there to go and murder black labs malpractices ridiculous. If you actually look why she happened upon them arrival of stood God at the mechanic shop across the auto shop dealer shitter rent for the damage of destruction late at night subsequent Essentially substantially of the city's eight PM curfew expired about consequence police finally, style attempt to disperse a crowd, a group of writers and doing. So maneuvered a mess of individuals down the street toward iota shops, colony avas on the premises ver- verbally threatened and taunted more Protons Rises Post by the Collin activities intent was not to incite violence, but to simply deterred the property damage after the crowd Pasta premises called believed Fred violence had pause he became increasingly concerned. The injured participation Bison is engaged in nearby gas station with media access to medical assistance to help learn for car headed in that direction with first aid kit. Right to help them out and I think there's video that shaped basically alleges that the violent side because the purchasers came by the auto body shop and I, guess, they were trying to push a been. On fire will do by should lie up I'm guessing and he added if I extinguish the fire and I, guess that sourced idea or supposedly. Shoot. call. So he sold out two inch. He saw he saw injured persons rented aid and try to guy people to others who could assist who sent. He could amid kills but the final time car returned to gas station and confirmed those normal incident vigils who need assistance please had advanced formation and block what would have been his pop accident mechanic shop called then comply with police instructions not to go back their car attentive gas station. So you kind of which I guess weapon he kind of go slow from his group basically due to the police incompetence car retentive gestation until he learned. He learned of Anita help protect a second mechanic shop down the street where poverty instruction was imminent. We've no police nearby as car proceeds was sick a mechanic shop. He was accosted by multiple writers recognize that he had been attempted to protect a mob one to destroy. Raised he just outraged the writers and create a mob now determined to her cow, they began chasing him down car tempted to get away. He could not do so quickly upon the sound of the gunshot behind him cartoon and was immediately faced with an attack lunging towards reaching for his wife will you get it instantly and justifiably weapon, but to protect yourself firing and Shrek the attacker caused stop to ensure care to win the Cup face it grew mob justin was emmy realize he needed to flee for safety? Any survive one of tech shut call from behind as he fled on the street called Tana's more press in efforts grant when attack a Kit Cowan aground while he was on the ground. Never a Basham of ahead of escape several right to try to disarm cow in his life and concerned with the crowd would even continue to shoot him all uses weapon against him at Notre but the five mortar rounds, tekkers tekkers. Into including one on the second resident what begins his burst upon hearing additional gunshot so That paints, a completely different pitches to what you heard the media and especially wire reactor tuna first video. and. It makes. You wonder why they decided to charge him with murder in the first place when it was clear self defense I think they've changed the the actual charges. I'm sure it's not first degree murder, but do it all trying to paint an immediate was that it was a style right? He was alone he was kind of your college shooter right gone rogue right you Kinda went to go and put these black lives matter. He's black lives matter protesters straight that wasn't the case. He was obviously, he will. He went there to go and help right local community. that. Kind of have a problem with that. I think you should obviously lead that that kind of policing of the neighborhood to Daschle police I think, of course in certain states. Depending on what? They lean. Depending on the political spectrum. Is seems like they using this opportunity as a way to kind of put them after trump if you're a blue state, you kind of want to take your kind of fall off the pedal and not have the police related law everybody kind of maintain law and order and stop anybody from looting processing is fine but the looting is was kind of destroying. These neighborhood on these communities and the magic think it's just A. It's just unfortunate situation because regardless what happens describes life is effectively being Bruno I don't think you can kind of I duNno. If a kid that's never killed somebody's finally going to be okay because self defense right in a missive Araya. Along with your Kind of recounting the situation you're gonNA. Regret. Somebody action to some respects again, easily protecting himself I'm sure of that but. Grew into families of. People, pass the gas what you think of what they did. Nothing people's are now labeling them as you know, CIA molesters wherever you may be just a poss- crimes but. It's just unfortunate that losing lives in disturbances. Again, it's just gonNA cause more and more division as we've seen with the other story we in Portland with somebody else shooting US oppose a trump supporter that's not really been on the news too much. Keep an eye on it, but you already see anybody kind of labeling that person as A. Pro As anti-trump person because the person who died was a pro-trump person, it's just really ready, divisive and kind of. Bad Time I guess in America because the media and helping things the guy in the White House ain't hoping is trump because he sees opportunity maybe to kind of. I wouldn't say. Guarantee reelection but definitely give the elect people voting to pose a question. Really Right. What do you want? Do you really want Kamata? Harrison Joe. Biden's stepping in the midst of all this going on. Can you really trust administration to kind of? Put this kind of deal with this. The right way maybe Kamata Harris maybe. Considering with she's locked up her time but I don't know you If you're if you're a conservative, can you trust the Democrats really deal with this in a good way I don't think you can. Again I don't think you can. Categorize it, and say car racing house wasn't defending himself because he clearly was you see the original video and you see. Again I don't know what the lorries in America just because you call gun in your hand, somebody tries to punch you can shoot him since weird again, he wasn't trying to shoot him to go sean luxury is gone and she of the head with plastic bag. The backup bricks and ebba the kind of self defense show what you know what they can kind of pick apart there but he did it cross state. Lines. The Gum was his friends. He was obviously there because the video of him cleaning up graffiti. So he was obviously difficult and help out the community and unfortunately you know as is writes things squire hand, which is why I think biolog-. Shouldn't be going to regardless if your friend lives zone, no, you shouldn't be going. To go protect your local businesses unless your business, you should only go protect what is actually yours. I think going out there and trying to rent a support to other businesses communities only going to end this way whether it's GonNa end you fatally moving somebody who fatally wounded yourself because you know both sides both sides have guns off shore most services will have guns more so because you know debris more pro guns. In general putting yourself in harm's way for somebody else's business just isn't worth. It really isn't. You know everyone's life is ruined just what because of what? Because of a bloody dumpster fire or something avenue style the whole? Place is just so it was just so avoidable woman it really was bike in the narrative. To sell his car in house sky isn't Truman isn't true ever now the leaking people leaking videos of this kid gain to find school and in Gill what what does that mean does that is the same way that you can't say the kill the guy that he killed in the Petro Station who might have been a you know might have had some dubious crimes of his paws. Somebody justifies him dying at the hands of its teenager in a riot that doesn't justify either same what you say you. should be in jail because he punched in the back of our head one time during high school that isn't fair either. I just wish you could do these things fairly and kind of judge them as they are which woodley the the climate a moment is know what is. Your let me know you think men like. Again this is the right car in houses lawyers statement. Whether or not that is actually what happened. You believe the story do you think is going to get strung up? The charges change, and if you walk what happens, then will there be a foreword. They had never riot because he ends up walking because they tried to charge them something. They actually didn't do that. She didn't legitimately was defending himself. If you actually look at the breakdown of the video see she led up to the actual altercation it had like his defending himself right? You know everyone involved in the altercation with him we'll shannon retreats, gone one person even had a gun themselves. So what is he meant to do? We see enough videos of people getting kicks in the head and you know completely unconscious and stumped underground. I'm sure somebody holding a gun and looking at car in houses does there was no way that was going to end well, anyway if he didn't shoot them back and try to fight them that one's GonNa End Welfare you've definitely GonNa get cubs domes and knocks unconscious and maybe even being deaf Jeremy does no knowing how far I would have gone because yet gun you're preserving the left hates. Yeah. Unfortunate situation regards. Let me know thinking commencement. Let me think about four provide update and don't be afraid to let me know your force and opinions I'm that fast if he gets download stuff I'd rather be wrong incorrect my opinion as it goes on. I'm just learning this stuff again, I'm UK anything goes on US Amani, listening and reading why incident that happened to piece together. And try and come to some of. Rational. View. View, about what's actually going on there being a little bit Tunisia, and reacted to soft the. The. lanktree meteors putting out for lack of a bad times limited on below waving that updates. What else is going on here? So we talked about crying. To something else here above Bah. Let's look better phone I. Love this man celebrities always ruined everything can celebrities ruined everything? It's just what they do. So I'm sure you guys are aware of the over the weekend Ben Affleck supposedly broke the record on early fans but when she nausea events account And made out of over two million dollars and essentially. Cause a complete opera of into sex worker community, which then led to only finds changing their policy around how they cash our our limits are basically she ruined only fans for actual Jim a sex workers. And just to highlight you know. What happens when you have celebrities? Get involved on platforms or in industries that are predominantly into service the I wouldn't say the lowly types but the people who generally have no option but to work because that's the thing that's really interesting to me with the whole not legitimization or it kind of legitimization of sex work at the moment in this society, right? You looked at porn and those kind of degenerate activities as places where degenerates existence, right? It wasn't an avenue for like your local next door mum to kind of go online and make a couple of grand because she's selling feet. Right? It was. You know mostly. Left to the absolute lowlifes this walled, right if you went to meet some freaks, you went to the point industry and they kind of a way to kind of keep themselves up of Keith ahead of of OUGHTA. Make. Do what they can. Exploit technology in really quite interesting ways and just generally go about things in the right correct way and then kind of handle stuff in house whoever may be? and. Then, somehow turn into this weird feminist arm where some women who one from that sex worker community Oh, who had all the opportunity in life to go any other way apart from sex work or? Working in the industry has suddenly Kinda used it as a way to kind of propel de Feminist stance right taking ownership of their body agency and what they do all this stuff nor could tell me why can do I can wear white one I can suck I. mean this is. 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78: Where Have All The Cow Parts Gone? With Filmmaker Chris Cantwell

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78: Where Have All The Cow Parts Gone? With Filmmaker Chris Cantwell

"I'm erin minke creator and host of on obscured season one was a deep dive into the salem witch trials in this season of on obscured we'll trace the path of the spiritualist list to follow the voice of andrew jackson davis over the course of the nineteenth century spiritualism became a kaleidoscope of novel beliefs courageous people and world shaking invents the second season of unexcused premiers october second listen to one obscured on the iheartradio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts welcome to night call a production of our heart radio it's eleven twenty two pm and a cattle farm outside pendleton oregon and you're listening tonight call hello and welcome to night call podcast for your strange days and lonely nights my name is emily ashida i'm here in los angeles and with me in the a studio as always our test lynch and molly lambert and it's been interesting newsweek like in real life but i feel like we've also got the left field news stories sent to us when last slip through the cracks yeah we're there to pick them up where there to pick them up i mean it's it's a distraction mechanism y'all are paying attention to the impeachment but meanwhile meanwhile guerrillas masquerading as a six year old well yes so if you happen happened to be searching about ukrainian news this week you might have actually managed to miss a really crazy article from the daily mail they ran dan an exclusive about it's the case of an indiana couple who adopted a girl with dwarfism named natalia from the ukraine except according to the couple she was actually an adult and now they were all trapped in a plot that was kind of like the movie orphan was actually pretty much exactly like the movie question that does this spoil orphan for me i don't think so because it's there's the specifics are kind of like the meat of this story read it as a suspense movie you know when will they realize when will they realize so they adopted this girl they had a couple of other children and this girl like kind of failed to like a simile me into the family and then just started trying to pour bleach in their coffee she tried to drown them in the ocean she was smearing blood on mirrors she was drawing pictures of her murdering her family family and eventually the couple fled to canada with their other children and laughter in an apartment at home here's the deal is so sh they thought she was a six but then they noticed that you know while they were giving her a bath and stuff they were like she doesn't look six so there are these two conflicting reports the the family says that she is an adult woman who was posing as a six year old girl and her defense attorneys are like no the couple is crazy she's clearly a child and neither side has been proven to be lying or telling the truth yet but they fled they left her in an apartment by herself the communion and then and i guess they were brought up on charges for child endangerment cow it became a store john became a story and then they went on the news and they were like she's not a child and she was like so you know i guess like had a GED or they were trying to hook up with pause matala jobs they were trying to lake transition her away but it's a it's a really really really intense read and i recommend it it's also just like it's weird because it's daily meals story like daily mail burke this and it's like i want to know more about the ukraine right now exactly yeah i learned that the president of the ukraine is a comedian so this is a weird thing where people i saw people being like is this so well known that no one's talked about it happened it was just revealed he played a t he's like okay so he's he's like the adam sandler of the ukraine he's famous for a movie called eight i dates that is a rip off of fifty first dates and he was like holy mostly rom coms uh-huh they all have names like big little city like middle of the road rom coms and then he did like a well received basically like premium streaming cable ukrainian ukrainian show it sounds like that was about a hapless populist who becomes the president of the ukraine on an anti corruption platform and then he ran under the fake party from the show and one i think what we're saying is if you wanna get out of the ukraine right now and your option then is to masquerade as a six year old child to get adopted by american parents i mean why not i don't know it now a great time to actually not a terrible platform is actually a really good he i'm sure he the milkshake doc in some way because he's politician but he ran on like pro-abortion right legalizing marijuana yeah anti-guns all things where i was like should we be discussing our sold six year old to go to the ukraine yes that's not about exchange program yeah guys i wanted to do a quick recommendation because in addition to terrorists house and succession the only television shows i watch right now i've been kind of doing a slow burn of burns to speak of ken burns's country music it's an eight part only do a slow yeah yeah i mean you can't binge a ken burns don't put it on like five times speed maybe maybe do that for maybe the vietnam one nine inch track really want to watch that when right exactly each of the installments is like a feature each and the vietnam when you're like when will i wanna feel so depressed i mean country music because at least like kind of fun like there are some very not fun parts about it too especially in the first couple episodes because it's just like how much country music came out of like the minstrel snitch control read tradition i don't actually know how to say that word out out loud i guess but i mean it's it's it's it's it's got enough like i think people are to say and it should be harder to do right right it should be harder to do than to say the pacing of these documentaries though i have to say the best thing to do while watching one is just to have your our laptops so that when something interesting happens you can take like a deep dive detour will the nice thing also is that if you do have your laptop and you're not watching constantly an image will be on the screen for approximately five minutes either you have time to look up and see what you're supposed to be looking at but i mean it's very easy to make fun of ken nobody almost a podcast may yeah we could do a slide show under three thousand dollars patriotic have already said i want her three thousand patriarchal to be that we have to do a jam session emily you do play the fiddle molly you play the guitar car yeah and we're country you could play the drums and i don't know how to play the drums you could say like shaker somebody has to learn how to play the banjo though i mean maybe that's something we can work on but i so i'm three parts in eight parts it's and right now i'm kind of like i just watched like the one that has a lot of hank williams in it and basically how look career and death of hank williams but there was an i think it was in the second episode where they start to talk about like singing cowboys and like movie cowboys and stuff which is very near and dear to my heart i love seeing cowboys do you love the gene autry museum museum i've never been to my dad it litter now i need to but this is about gene and literally has a section that's like real cowboys singing cow well i love like there's a whole part about like nudie suits and i'm just like my eyes are just like made of stars and like they want so that might be something that is in the hall hall of fame nudie CAD we're pro pro nuclear bingo his name is his real name was i think it was new cultural ranko he's like i i i forget where he was eastern european but he like people couldn't say his name he started working in brooklyn and so they started climbing nudie another nudie suits but but there's an amazing section which i think is like a future night call viewing assignment for us of a the first feature film that gene autry was the star love that was like a gene autry vehicle it was actually started as a serial and then became they edited into one feature film the came out in nineteen forty called the phantom empire which is a hybrid western and science fiction movie about gene autry plays a radio cowboy who lives on a ranch and his ranch is threatened by like underground dwelling welling aliens basically from las continent of mu want to take over his land anybody always has to like make make it back in time to like get on his radio show it looks so amazing and apparently the script was written or at least was conceived while the writer was i think under sedatives for tooth extraction i wanna say cereals are very good and i like enjoy them star wars has ruined them for me like a little bit but something like that especially singing cowboys oh yeah singing cowboys versus the loss conscience yeah so i want to watch that and maybe i'll report back 'cause sounds amazing i wanted to recommend on a similar topic ecocide topic from country music the richest gemstones on HBO is my favorite show i think it's the funniest mileage molly's eggs while all the rest everybody z. first of all they're like both on HBO i'm talking about succession everybody is not as much gemstones discourse on the internet as if there is a succession discourse which i credit of course to the east coast media bias against things from anywhere else because to me mega churches are like so much more interesting than the inner workings of you know media which is something i know about already to a fault i'm going to try they took recommit to the righteous gemstones my issue is that i don't think it's that funny that's what i heard about it like it's it's you want your wanting owning too like laugh because i mean obviously eastbound and down we were all huge fans love and i my expectations were really high and i did that thing where i just started laughing nothing at intervals like regardless of what's happening i think some of the weird random like it's not like super joke heavy maybe but just the whole vibe you you know to enjoy a show i wanna be in that place a little bit yeah i love the world of it a lot i'm can i really quick go back to singing cowboys because they had to do research for a second but i don't say that gene autry head i guess had not any longer an estate in framing canyon in studio oh city called the flying a that is like amazing there were some time capsule photos from it on anything curbed while ago but it is incredible and then i heard that for a time maybe not any longer jeff probst from survivor was living there oh my god i was like wow that's my two interests colliding the roy rogers museum used to be in victor velvet it moved moved to somewhere else moved to move to i went to it when it was in victorville when i was a tiny baby because so you saw trigger oh yeah eh branson now i've been to both the branson horse yeah i know all about your love triggers so much guys do you want to hear the cutest thing that i ever did in my life yes i invited bill evans to my sixth birthday hard i wrote her a letter and she wrote robak actually and said sorry can't make your birthday party but i hope you're happy birthday honours such such i wanted to be a cowboy so that's maybe again what we all want to go on a trailer five thousand dollar right i'm allergic to the horses so it'll have to be a high take away and i'm allergic to hay and once i was back riding and i fainted because i had an asthma got right back on campus you make me look so the american spirit right that's what i mean i will hide in the barn the rest of the the girl scouts are done with their horsera- barnes the worst place to be if you have allergies totally roof keeps it in man well we had one other news news story that's the range this was sent us i think on every single platform that people really wanted us to investigate again this apparently in oregon right now cows are just mysteriously getting kidnapped and murdered in a very disconcertingly disconcertingly clean way it's sort of it's a little bit ice ice truck killer from dexter but for cows also a little bit under the skin because the cows are being unfound like they have some organs that are just cleanly removed and some of their internal organs so they look kind of like deflated it's very weird nobody knows why it's happening there's a story about this on oregon public radio oregon public broadcasting which will link to in the show notes but yeah guys got any theory we so we're just we're bringing this up now because we're going to formulate a plan right right right but we need tips tips so if you live in oregon if you wouldn't mind creeping around some cattle farms and giving us a call to let us know what you think is going on we'd appreciate it but so basically the the strange things are no blood at the crime scenes some organs like sex organs and others and maybe at tongue have been removed it looks like with a knife or razor so it's not an animal attack it seems like it's a human but apparently the FBI like won't confirm or deny that it's working on on this but the sheriff said that locals are calling in with their theories and and some of those theories involve aliens radiation and a foreign i believe it was north vietnamese army which i'm not sure like how that lines up but that is a theory that exists what do you guys think i wanna shout there's a picture of the it's a whiteboard apparently that they're keeping the sheriff's office with all the called in theories home so you also have poison's flesh darts devil-worshippers vegans i don't know about that i love this so much and justed creature feature which was about bats and we talked at length about vampire bats and why they have a bad reputation and it's because in dracula there's a part about the first thing they see is a uncowed that's been drained of all blood left field but that's also because dracula can like trans more like transmogrify into into bats you know so he's him draining all the blood not the bat fats aren't very hungry little guys right that's what k- the costa saying she was like why not leeches or something like other things also sucked blood why bats because they're so clueless puppy basis well yeah this this is happening so the cow the cow incidents are happy and multiple different places around oregon one of them the woman who were owns the ranch she was saying that this had it also happened in the eighties there was like a similar case that happened before he went around taking their catalytic converters out it was is a yeah i'm i'm jay okay it has to be aliens right this is the number one classic sign of aliens it could be a classic sign of aliens but it also does remind me that a few hugh years ago there were i think they were disemboweled animals found in some parts in los angeles and that was like either a santeria or a devil worship remember that well yeah i was plugging blood involved with that that's true i mean yeah i mean that's the weirdest part is that like even it they would have to like take the cattle bring them to a van or something like kill the cattle do whatever but it's also like these alert two thousand pounds they're mostly bulls correct so they're young bull there's one like mother cow who was like her others were removed rightly only cut off that one makes the black dahlia of caveat it's going around lia plant fungus wildcard plant fungus could surgically remove and utter fungus that grows to be able to like take out the blood and organs term macau i highly recommend looking up this article just because it has a picture picture of how it looks like a deflated balloon it's really scary it's really scary and like a sock puppet or another classic theory chew copra yeah you could go with that you picabo shoe kabre i think qualifies all the criteria suck the blood clean i feel like it's it's some kind of ritual i don't think it's aliens because i can't really formulate why the aliens would just take certain parts of the cow do anything i mean that's the truth is that was i why should we see ad astra maybe we should see australia's i shan't see at us strasheim i wanna have another argument about space movies and how i hate when they're about god or your parents want them to be about the vast no ability of space only not i know it a no ability of your parents because i'd like we're going to take a quick break and when we come back one more night call i believe there's power especially for young women in talking about money how much we make how much we spend on how money impacts our identities under relationships i'm samantha bari the editor chief of glamour in our new podcast she makes money moves you'll hear women from across the country sharing their personal stories about salaries financial struggles and successes and the lessons they've learned along the way i made about thirty thousand dollars eventually my credit cards just got maxed out so you mean to tell me our mortgage was not paid and you went shopping you'll also hear from experts helping guide these women and women everywhere toward a better financial future it is your younger longer selfs job to look after your older south we're more comfortable getting physically naked with somebody then financially naked she makes money moves is a production of glamour an iheartradio listen and subscribe at apple podcast iheartradio app or wherever you listen to podcasts welcome back today we have our friend chris can't well the filmmaker chris can't well not the neo nazi who shares his name just how to always disclaim he's he's joining us in the studio to discuss his new movie the parts you lose chris we've known online for a long time in mali actually had him on one of her old podcasts he was the co creator creator ep and show runner of the excellent AMC tv series halt and catch fire this is halt and catch fire five right here this is so you probably already know ran for four seasons and is now available available to view on netflix he's also the writer and co creator of the comic books she could fly and everything anything for burger books and darkhorse writer of the mask also for dr chorus and the writer of the new doctor doom series for marvel comics dan yes hi chris hi i title for having me the mask dark again i did yeah i read the remember the original comic i just learned about i learned all the mask mythology recently watched the movie for the first time and was like oh about how this happened and also just people adapting darcom from x. before comic book movies were like they are now yeah it's so good yes the original comic book very disturbing i got it when i was in i don't know probably like right before middle school because the movie had come out and i convinced my mom to buy it at the store and she didn't open and when i did on a road trip to saint louis it was profoundly disturbing damascus so disturbing it's so disturbing and the comic is really destroy israel is more disturbing disturbing for different reasons but the comic book is violent i couldn't get through it because it's so it's so dark and it's like pretty punishing roy just makes him a sociopath so every other like eighties because it's so funny i need to think about all the revisions studios it went through to get to reich and then he does a dance right yeah whereas and then he's funny and sweet and it takes place in like komo ame that's kind of in the fifties but also the swing revival was happening just a lot of stuff was happening yeah it's really strange to exist in chris it's a mildly the parts you lose we were lucky enough to be able to see that's coming out on october fourth in theaters and on VOD tell tell us this is one of the wintry movies i've ever it was a very winter minded shoot winnipeg yeah we shot in winnipeg which is a city that has kind of a weird reputation in canada really it's it's the murder capital of canada really the murder the candidate even would have murder i wonder how they would but this one person a year gets murdered it's like it's yeah i think it's actually extraordinarily narrowly low compared to most places in the united states but it's really looked down upon by canadians i would tell people who i knew from canada that i was going to winnipeg and they would be like really and they had never been really a lot of canadians have never been to winnipeg but they just have there's a snotty about it i think so because i went and i actually kind of loved it we provinces it in manitoba okay so it's like it's like the sticks compare prairies yeah i guess i i was gonna say i guess murder means that it didn't happen accident but i think there's sherri people always drown in the same lake or something it was it's interesting 'cause winnipeg is so it looks very set in north dakota and it looks extremely north dakota but i was also wondering about the experience so this is a thriller her and it but it's a thriller but it's also mostly like kind of an emotional thriller yeah it's like a little chamber piece yes yeah the actor who plays wesley is a british actor named danny murphy one of the really interesting things watching his performance was he has this lake ability the the way that he liked portrays this kind of interior already is so striking and then the way that it's shot shot is like the whole thing is definitely feels like it's from his perspective which is it can be kind of like it's just it's very striking t to see how his perception perception of what's going on because he can't here is so different from everything else that's going on and that's really gripping but i was also curious about the process of shooting a dark film film in the winter and like how that was it was miserable for me i'd say like yeah it was my first feature to direct and i got a call from from the producers who produced hong catch fire and they said do you wanna do movie and i went over to their office read the script and then i said so we go prep open like like over thanksgiving or something because it was around september and they said we leave in ten days and i had just elizabeth and i had just had had our second kid and i told her because hall had just finished and i was like oh we're it'll be fine like i'm gonna be home and it'll be great and i and yet when i go to canada for four and not even like canada like dark scary sad canada for four months it was a tough commerce and it's also such a i mean it's this kid has to go through quite a lot he's bullied at school home life kind of tough and then he ends up forming a close relationship with a fugitive and i as a parent watching it i was like this is really intense like a reminded me when my assigned was turned on the news and it was like an anchor who was just like tonight a three year old boy and i turned it off days don't even know what happened the three year old boy why did you go full apocalypse now in the tundra i you know i will i started with i mean like it was some bucks yeah i i'll bring some stuff i brought some books to keep more i brought an brought a nutribullet sure bullet and then by the end i had a hurricane her hurricane lantern in my apartment that i would just light and and put a wool blanket around myself and it was dark with came up right at the end because it was getting pretty pretty like we are like what do we do oh we just stare at the neutral i always wonder when i hear about people who've like either for shows for films who just have to like go in bed somewhere usually it's like vancouver over or whatever but even then it's like you're living in a place that is not your home for like a pretty long time but not quite in a way where you're like i'm moving there i i live there now but like you do have to call it a habit or like take on the psychology of whatever place the ear yeah in winnipeg is really strange that way because it it is totally stuck in like nineteen seventy-eight it hasn't changed it looks i think it looks exactly like it did in nineteen seventy eight with a few new places because does it just seems too cold too often to build new stuff yeah so they just leave it and they're like this is it this is what we built for really great landscapes gapes in the movie yeah i mean you go outside and manitoba and like the farmland is crazy and we we didn't film in this barn but there was one barn where we went to the family family that owned the farm and we were like this barn is really cool what's the history of this barn and they said well i think it's it's over one hundred years old and we said well how long is the farm it in your family and they said well our grandparents parents started this farm and we said oh so they built the bar and they said no it was here when thank god here at the barn was just there and kind of like retrofitted it in nineteen nineteen eighteen how'd you ever spent that long in anywhere that cold no was crazy because texas and california yeah make you a soft asaf off to blood it's hard to go in that direction it's yeah it was really intense i i showed up with jacket that i thought would be fine and then by the end i had the full for the full coveralls like the oil derrick coverall carl hart yes i got i got canada goose yeah and then the full canada goa's jacket that's so heavy that my shoulders would be sore day i'll have a cute jacket and you're like i will wrap around my body soon boots yeah it was it was intense speaking of real estate of mysterious providence we hear that you live in a haunted house else possibly allegedly yeah allegedly lived there okay well there's a couple of things so we moved to claremont california which is a college town down about fifty miles from LA the mountain also very nineteen seventy-eight yes very and but then you go in the village and it's like nineteen hundred it's like very east coast one thousand nine hundred but we live in one of the first developments that that they shut down the orange groves and they said okay we're gonna turn these into you you know residential areas and we live in one of the first of those and it's a normal house is not anything crazy but it was built in nineteen sixty one which is later than some of the houses we lived in LA but it has a very strange electrical system where the certain light bulbs we'll go on and off at random times and the weirdest thing i i've never personally had like a any kind of experience it's like supernatural experience at all i'm very fascinated by them and countless people i've met have had them but the other day i was taking a nap because i'm in between jobs and i was i was laying just taking a nap ashamed of naps sir weird yeah if if i've woken up from a nap and elizabeth isn't home i will rush and make it look like i haven't taken a nap you have to put the throw pillows back and i'm like hey working too deep is the yeah which is this is going on i think yeah i i think i'm addicted to naps but anyway so i was laying down but i wasn't asleep yet and sometimes elizabeth will come in like when i'm kind of in the middle of sleep and like she'll wake me up you'll always start by putting your hand on my shoulder if i'm turned turned away from her and it'll slide down and that'll wake me up and that's how it's been for like years and i literally i felt that to the point where it was so real where i turned around and said hey and she wasn't there and i actually heard the fabric move on my body and i it it felt like there was a hand on my shoulder and it slid down my shoulder toward my chest just like elizabeth does and i heard it and i turned around and said hey there was no one there then the light bulb started blinking off and then it happened again like forty five minutes late really yeah oh my god i was laying there and i was not really able to sleep and then i felt it again and turned around and i heard it i i heard the fabric move and i didn't move for second because i was like is that the same thing and then i felt it moved down and then i turned around and then there was nobody there and so the second time like you were kind of half half up from the nap the first time i like fully awake i was awake the first two i hadn't fallen asleep yet and then i was like oh she came in without me paying i was like you know ought never never land and she walked in and i do you have any pets i do i have a dog did they have large the joe with the be really graceful beautiful female and on my corgi pomeranian that would only be a borzoi well i mean poltergeist alter guys has taught me that all cool married couples poltergeists yeah you would think so i mean like i it would be cool to have one i think elizabeth wants one more than there might actually be one we did leave we live in a house we lived in a house in echo park but was the last place we moved we lived in before we moved to clermont and it was one hundred heard something year old house and i was put a garden in and i dug up a horse hitch like the old horse hitch how people would get up hill on on erin street and glendale before cars and then we researched it ahead of pathway films which would rent all the cameras out to the silent film people like mack mack sennett lived in our house with his wife who was the lead actress in the first narrative film squaw man the d w griffith film and her name is princess red wing and so just that alone was freaky the house you would have more expected it to be haunted yeah i mean our son when he was a baby would like sit and laugh at nothing that he was looking at in the corner of the nutribullet the new travolta nutribullet i love neutral bullets so much i feel like i've talked about them on this show many times well how do you feel about the ninja i really don't like the name it looks to me the nutribullet is like is like you don't expect much from the nutribullet when you look at it and then you realize it solve every single problem you've ever had your kitchen the the ninjas like to the ninja looks like oh you wanna vitamix but it's too expensive but you want to overcompensate by making it look like really aggro then that's not the case though with almost every alternative to the vitamix vitamix fit it's too expensive i do go to who goes teke on york really great juice very cheap i heard the juice boom boom is over guys that was a headline today it was like his over maybe all the like things people spend with their extra extra money might be going out of fashion soon potentially i have to say i'm in the market for a new blender so if nutribullet one missile really visit the name of the product system we need to have some commission i bought one i bought one with with my own money for our last writer's room because i needed to yes yes it was very bad news for me i needed the g i wanted the juice i would make a smoothie lunch but yeah the ninja was very problematic and that's actually what i brought to canada not the nutribullet because i need a it's brought a negative yeah and it's really tough like sizing it up is how it is and feared and i think i tried to i tried to use it when i was back home right after i got back from canada and i was kind of in a weird place and i don't even know if elizabeth knows this but i tried to blend blend something in the ninja and it like the the dryer stuff got stuck in the top and i couldn't shake it loose to get down into the blades and i got so angry agree that i just i took the ninja into the garage and i destroyed really just remembering that literally physically destroyed the ninja with your yeah i think i threw it down by the cord to leverage yeah i was like what happened to my what happened to my ninja oh i destroyed certainly weird because the reason i don't have a blender is because like two and a half months ago i was getting the blender my kids were being super annoying and i was on a stool and i got the base of the blender and then the top part of the blender fell and hit me on the head and shot like cracked on my head and fell to the ground is plastic but shattered erred and i was like i don't know if i need another blander after this but then of course you're like well i need a smoothie yeah you want to spend the only human less let's clean up in the neutral you blend in the cup and then you drink it like clock carrying that cup around it's starting to get a smaller all around the handle is data every single morning well you bring it so i can see the cop because i'm i believe the rumor that our friend alex pasadena through a computer across the room once after we all found out we were losing jobs and then i asked him about it and he was like no i just kinda closed it that makes me so sad i believe well i've wanted to just i wanted to destroy machines all the time so that sounds so satisfied it was also kind of sad because then it's gone and you realize you spent the money on it if if it's again like i wanna hit a TV with a baseball bat like an eighties music video yeah really well what would be the equivalent now just like i was just in florida is kip through my phone into the ocean fantasize about timing yeah i mean i can't i don't wish that on the ocean you know yeah that would be bad although it so far gone at this point that it's like what's another phone own while we have you chris we have a night call that we wanted to put on a on on this one night call comes from zach hi night call after cokie roberts 's death earlier this week i read that her father hale boggs vanished when the plane carrying him disappeared over alaska in one thousand nine hundred seventy two it was never found he was house majority leader at the time and seems to have doubted the standard narrative of events surrounding the kennedy assassination seems fishy to me i was blown away that i hadn't heard of this until now i'm wondering if you've heard of this conspiracy theory and if there are any other under the radar american political conspiracies you've been following recently abstained stephen theories under the radar one saying there is no under the radar conspiracies anymore they're all they're just out in the open open open we did this yeah but that is fascinating i did not know that story so they guy was the house majority at this says house majority leader the equivalent of like nancy pelosi disappearing in a plane yeah a lot of people that turns out get disappeared on planes and boats it seems i heard that kevin o'leary's wife or ex wife did you hear about kevin o'leary his wife just killed somebody with a thousand accident on boat she was like at niwa steering a boat in any lights on it people and then they got real chappaquiddick you about it the narrative can say who was driving okay well he disappeared in nineteen seventy two so quite a while after the actual i don't know that it was then but but it was before it would be before the investigation into the what was it called the the nineteen seventy six committee on the presidential conspiracy that reinvestigated the investigator that we have chris can you explain your credentials to be answering okay so i'm from dallas i've been to the ah schoolbook depository museum multiple times this is your manson murder i think it is like wrote a screenplay with my partner chris rogers who i created hot with that i gripped on the blacklist about it and we researched all of the different kind of conspiracy theories that were out there and we tried to assemble what would be a plausible conspiracy witnessed on the ground from the point of view of a dallas patrol officer in those first forty eight hours but there are things he's like do you guys know about badge man i don't know anything about badge man okay so the only photos taken from the other side of the motorcade if you zoom mitt so from the middle part of the grassy knoll looking towards zapruder says a pruder's in the photo but the the resolutions very low because it's black and white film some people claim that if you continue to look further into that photo where the fence is the fence line behind the grassy knoll where people say they heard shots you can make the outline of someone firing a rifle who looks like they're wearing a dallas police officers i uniform and there's a reflection in the in the photo that looks like a badge hence the name badge man but it's not the the theory is not that it's an actual police officer i don't know they're the theories are that it's one of two people that it's an assassin from corsica or another french algerian assassin who was documented to be in the north texas area between november twentieth nineteenth through through november twenty four th when he was arrested and then immediately deported back to wherever he was coming from i'm trying to search JFK badge man right now and the internet is failing i think that somebody doesn't want us to know there should be a PDF i it's just like the internet internet went out because the poltergeist heard we were talking about on ear shoulder right so the poltergeist is the badge man trying to find much yeah it's once you start to go down the hall to it's like you just can't ever get out once you start asking it's impossible i mean i've read books you know there's there's the osce book about how it was just oswald and it's very compelling and very convincing also case closed by gerald posner very convincing there's also this new book that's all about help is a con man right that i was fighting with my boyfriend about because he was like it's a theory about the manson murders being staged by the cia i was like no that's too crazy ah why is that the rich to elizabeth used to work for this CIA why last night say that yes yeah last night she tried to tell me and i thought this was very strange the whistle blower incredible we were going to dinner and she said i i totally believe that the whistle blower was a CIA person because as far as i'm concerned c. i. a. operatives agents are the most i a political and neutral and morally upright people i know in the government and i was like are you serious precedent accident for that is completely contradictory to what you just said but yeah i mean and she was like but they hated george w bush they didn't want to go to iraq and i was like that's one right but they also overthrew several governments across the world yeah i think once you also start reading about all that stuff it just sort of started undermine everything you feel not true anything i do believe that like a operatives are pretty like neutral it's just sit there like willing to just do whatever they're asked to do like take that that seems plausible put on this dallas policeman's uniform why did they want to kill the president well there's different theories about this there's there's there's the union theory there's jimmy hoffa theory which i believe will be explored in the film the irishman irishman is about it's about a guy who claims to have the inside knowledge which is a real man has inside knowledge of the kennedy assassination accidentally became timely we've found he always was i thought he was about like i i know what i thought it was about there's also the most plausible thing that chris and i came across warrick a conspiracy was that it was a rogue group or sect of c. i. a. operatives who were pissed off about the bay of picks and their friends dying there and that they were doing it as a small isolated contain cell without out the CIA as knowledge and kill the president and if you were to go one step further that the CIA became aware of this operation and tacitly would and didn't do anything just letting loyalty no just didn't let they didn't they they were like that's fine because their agenda did not line up with kennedy in terms of what their agenda was for intelligence then we're just doing it like for revenge after the bay were they just they were angry and they were just yet they wanted to change the policy towards active active communist aggression so like aggression towards communism they were like we need to actually go after these people as opposed to just sit back yeah i mean by that right i mean yeah and then you read the stuff about lee harvey oswald and you're like okay but there are two things things that stick out to me that chris and i were never able to shake despite us believing that it was one guy okay so there's a dallas patrolman not badge man real guy who went up to the sixth floor when they found the weapon in the immediate aftermath of the crime scene and the the chief of police holds up the gun and this guy who's a hunter said oh it's a mouser it was not a mouser it was a man liquor carcano italian rifle bolt action rifle from corsica awesome and they came out with the official report and said it was this type of guy and this officer said no it was a mouser like member we were there we saw was a models houser that was never changes opinion he just had it was a mouser i saw it three separate instances couple years later he's driving down the freeway not on patrol i think and someone takes wild shot at him on a dallas street and hits his car a couple years later there's a knock at his door and he answers the door of his house and someone shoots point blank with a shotgun in the chest chest he'd lives what a couple years later he's coming home from work his dad is out front mowing his lawn on and he's like hey dad dad's like hey what's up and he's like i'm just gonna go inside and change something like less than thirty seconds later the dad hears a gunshot in the house and he comes comes in and his son has apparently committed suicide that is you fishy and razi i know that's that's one that scares me and then rain to or it's all random yahoo there's no connection whatsoever i just desire patterns yeah a- and which is funny to especially when you're looking into like the cia and stuff it's like it's like you got dosed yeah just i'm just there and then the the the house select coming like my movie comes out october fourth the house select committee on assassinations nineteen seventy six we're we're all a glowing elizabeth they'll be like christ you went into the kennedy center we want some weight so there's this guy named george the more insult if you guys are gonna watch JFK soon you he's character in the film he be fr- wealthy german dude i think german spoke russian ryan befriends the oswald when they returned from russia and they settle in texas their report he's kind of this aristocrat iraq guy in dallas kind of takes lee under his wing this is all true lee apparently takes the photo of himself with a rifle and the newspaper to give to george and he there's a copy in georgia's house that the warren commission finds later he hands over it says like something something like off fighting fighting fascists lee sign leaf yeah l. h. o. george is brought before the warren commission they asked him if he has ties the CIA says no he does except the CIA they realize this later he had business ties to the CIA because he did a lot of business overseas the day so he gets a summons to testify i five before the house select committee on asan nations the day he gets that summons the day he blows himself with a shotgun yeah which is very strange what does it mean no does it means very strange what made you initially so fascinated like why is this your under the silver lake is it like yeah the little alice yeah dallas dallas is very strange in that way this is a weird place in general general yeah weird kind of scar on it where it's it's a cool place and then also kind of not cool place and then it has this weird place in world history and i think it all stems from my dad took me to see JFK when i was eight eight yeah see that was bad he was like let's go see this movie and we walked in and he was like now before we watched this movie like just no they proved it was one guy this is a movie is a story and then i sat through three and a half hours of like men painted gold like beating each other with change and doing aimal aimal and we we walked out of the theater and i remember driving home and he was sitting next to my mom in the car and i was in the backseat and he was like they did it they fucking killed him they fussing and so i think that just stuck with me forever that's incredible it's also you just can't ever go at the bottom of it right yeah it's one of the zodiac continue to dig into the more impossible it becomes more things you start it to rope in from like farther away connected to but then again not to bring it back to obscene but easy riders meeting in the movie you got a lot of stuff to say about that i'm almost done i mean once you do sort of accept like oh like sometimes people with a lot of money super immoral and illegal things or a lot of power and get away with it because it sounds so insane yeah yeah then you just feel gas let forever yeah were you have no idea what and you hear it from a credible source or it's not it's not like the guy handing out photos of the autopsy in front of the grassy knoll yeah it's like you're going deep into the primary sources or like the head of a studio retires and before he dies he's is like here's why the manson girls actually killed those people and he tells you that story and then you're like whoa and then to to you that's the story forever really and the guy who wrote the book that i was arguing with my boyfriend about neither one of us have read the book we read that we ran to it was also like we get in these uh-huh arguments on road trips are long drive it's just for fun team to team but yeah it was totally a lot of it is like oh this person wouldn't talk talk to me therefore they must be hiding something or they don't want to rehash murder from fifty years ago but they've thought about in bed haunted by their whole life but then he he would be like see clearly like because they don't want to talk to me it means that they know something right i'm arianna huffington and i'm so excited for the new season of the thrive global podcast we'd be sitting down with everyone from the broad city creators ilana glazer bob jacobson do michel fan and sophia bush as we explore how they go awesome surviving to thriving and how you can too i find this to be like screaming typical dudes where we didn't really like hash it out we never got into like big fights i think we met in the middle so much creatively like and found that that was where the prieto boyce was we made the show because we couldn't perform it you see so it's a different yeah we made it because of failure listen to thrive global on apple podcasts the iheartradio app or wherever you listen to podcasts i think that's the big problem with the JFK's assassination is because there was such expediency with the warren commission that they were ordered basically to wrap this up as fast as possible so they would interview witnesses and they'd be like also like we don't care about that like just keep telling us the thing about so that they could prove it was oswald which it probably was cavanaugh thing they needed let's let's wrap this up as fast as possible when you're dealing with things that are like once you've layered because they didn't want it to feel like a communist conspiracy upset the world balance making a murderer or in like the o. j. you know stuff also it's like sometimes also the cops fuck up right and that's another layer of it is like somebody did a crime and also the cops covered it up right these these people were terrible and unreliable and they were involved in everyone who is supposed to do their job did the worst possible job and then you uncover it but it does also i feel like there's this thing now with like alex jones type software it's like then there's like the sandy hook conspiracy people right like no other latently false and how do i live in a world world where like i acknowledge that i believe in kennedy conspiracies but then some of the conspiracies i'm like no this is clearly socially acceptable like once you start saying saying like what if that's not true i got like a conversation with flat earthers guy on hollywood boulevard about it because yeah he was like what about the moon landing and i was thinking well like we took all the nazi scientists to go to the moon which is like isn't that more fucked up man yeah actually you're right yeah it doesn't go doing doing nazi scientists to figure out how to shoot the moon on a sound stage i don't believe that kubrick would've worked with all those nazi scientists believe it or maybe the nazi scientists just whiffed we gotta do something rabbit out of here to hollywood the space this race where it's like everybody was lying about having the technology to go to the moon so they all just got in an arms race to do things that did happen in history seem really stupid and sometimes as well the real story on the record is plenty dumb like is that it okay that's the hard thing to grapple with with where it's like you're like oh this is twenty six year old guy who is loser was like i'm gonna go make a name for myself and it worked yeah and everybody like that's the thing that just just makes people have a nervous breakdown right yeah right and sometimes when it's like the thing that people are really apologizing for us just like well like people can go get firearms is really what the fucked up conspiracy is here yes otherwise we'd have a winnipeg like murdering winnipeg is now l. like entered our consciousness that's something we will probably reference i wanna go there it's really great i feel like it because it's like it's like if david lynch made a canadian the answer that's really what it's like advertisement passion of canada you have to have a whole if you want to have a bar outside the proper city limits you have to have a hotel so it has to be hotel so there are some bars that their full bars and then they have one room you can rent upstairs super scary to me yeah most of them are like hotels or you just don't wanna stay of course not we'll everyone please go see the parts you lose it's fantastic on VOD now it's gonna be on the odi and in theaters october fourth i think i can say confidently it will be less disturbing than the joker so you should make around one hundred percent more scoot mcnairy yes oh go it was great to see scoot mcnairy back he's so amazing we had a lot of fun on that we have more fun with each other than we did on hall because there was no pressure yeah yeah yeah well yeah in this dark scoot in this it is various the kid like we like he came in and did the thing where he wouldn't talk methods yeah until until like halfway through the shoe i'm just being the asshole so then he would tell over like hanging out with the kid but like by that point we got most of the footage he can play the badge man it's gonna be so good in the movie now right he's from dallas he's such a guy who could be in a photograph and you notice him forty years later yeah we just gave you a great idea it was like an ageless demon travelling through time also on film i believe i will add this one thing that when i saw once upon a time in hollywood which you guys have talked about on here they talk about how it's how rick dalton is the heavy right where he's the guy from the TV show who then goes into the movie too so he can get his ass kicked then who shows up in once upon a time in hollywood but the guy from my tv show from an scoot who's an incredible actor shows up for the one team and just gets just take these great cheering in the theaters like in his own he needs his own show movies we agree right he's he's always doing something i keep running i ran into him for like a six month period at the grocery store and i was like there's scoot mcnairy alley think he's got kids to write he seemed like in the same head space says me of like grocery shopping kids are just took my nap and yeah best well thank you so much for 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Baseball tonight, the podcast. Visit the baseball tonight podcasts Thursday, March twenty eight two thousand nineteen BUSTER Olea producer most days is Josh macrey Josh back, and I you were gonna join us for opening day. Dan, Dan, Stanisic did a great job filling in for you. But you were going to be back for this particular day. Your Red Sox starting the journey trying to defend their world championship three. I was going to be here come hell or high water. The last time I was on though, you said you weren't gonna talk smack about me missing any days. It was the lion. Smack the line at the beginning there, our producer most days does that count a smack talk. I'm not sure I thought that was just a fact, right? I mean most days. Yeah. I was I was trying to read, you know, the the sound of your voice was there a little something in there. But now, you're right. You're right. I guess not know is no there was no something in there. Just like there isn't when I affirm something that my kids saying, I look at them and say. Right. In the same vein. That's right. That's right fair enough fair enough. I bought it. So what are your opening day traditions to come in and work with you, really? You don't have anything where I mean, you made a point. Did you make a point today to wear Red Sox jersey? I know you did. And you. Yeah. I actually put on a collared shirt and dressed up like a professional to come into work. Okay. You know, we we've talked a lot on the podcast about my superstitions. Mainly the the light situation in whatever room. I'm watching a game in lights on or off. That's just a superstition that I have for every game. I don't necessarily have an opening day tradition per se. I honestly try and watch the game. If it's a daytime game back in the day. You know, I try and sneak away from school or class in college wherever I was to try and catch them. But I know one of these guys, you know, would make sure I took a whole day off kind of thing to watch opening day. Yeah. And now, you know, the biggest thing is I always found it interesting that baseball players there is that extra handshake you walk into a clubhouse. Hey, happy opening day. Or you get a hug from somebody. Or hey have a great season that sort of thing growing up as a kid. My thing was just to make sure that I was in place, even if I I shouldn't say skip school. But I I know putting game. So I can listen to the first pitch on on the radio. There you go now. So it's a big day. And certainly got a feel for that. When I was out at the ballpark yesterday t mobile park, formerly known as Safeco field are now Safeco Safeco and just talking with players, and you could see like their they are so done with spring training there. So ready to get going? So all the Red Sox all the Mariners. They're ready to go today. We'll hear part two of Greenies interview of Commissioner with Commissioner. Rob manfred. Just does it went on a tour with Jackie, Bradley, jR. Dee Gordon told us about a really cool thing that he did on or each row, and we'll be able to see that later today. Sarah Lang's, we'll be here with a numbers game. Keith law. We'll talk to us about a possible shift in the practice of service time in relation. But first news notes of the day Indian shortstop Francisco indoor out indefinitely yard had a cap injury. But he was playing a minor league game. He rolled his ankle. The Indians told reporters that he sustained in cute ankle sprain. What I've told is that it's more of a mild injury will see how long is that. It's obviously a big deal in an increasingly competitive American League central Oakland acquired candy Morales from the Toronto. Blue Jays who kicked in ten million to offset most of his twelve million dollars salary in order to make this happen. Jacob degrom deal with the Mets was announced by the team on Wednesday. Here's Jacob degrom saying he wants to finish his career with the Mets signing as a shortstop slash pitcher. Whatever you wanna call it and from day one you guys taking a chance on me. And then seeing me as part of this team's future means a lot. I've said it before that I love my time. I've loved my time here and wanted to be a part of this team's future. And you guys made that come true. And I can't thank you guys enough for that the fans have been great to me. I look forward to being here for a long time. Hopefully, lifelong met and bringing championship to New York. And that deal came out of a marathon negotiating session on Monday. Jeff wilpon the Mets C O talked about that a long day. We started whatever nine thirty in the morning, and I wasn't going to let the plane take off until we were done with this deal. So we were holding them house that she was getting Syracuse or New York with me somehow. And I think he's agents than want him to get on that plane until we had a handshake. On EBay this season. Richard Justice, MLB dot com columnist was on with Spain and fits talking about contracts. They are been very reluctant to give players a big money through age thirty two thirty three thirty four thirty five seasons. And what it means is that the compensation system has to pay players in the second half of the career the owners, and the players are going to have to have some very tough discussions about changing the speed to arbitration free agency. And all of that of the owners have said, we're willing to talk. If you wanna redistribute how the fifty year fifty percent of the revenue is allocated the winners of the winter without question. The Philadelphia Phillies with all their editions and Ryan Dempster of the MLB network was on Spain and Fitz talking about how they added more than just Bryce Harper before they ever got rice Harper. I think they quietly got themselves very much better. Like you. You look at between getting the trade for JT realm. Go getting Andrew mccutchen. I know mccutchen is not necessarily MVP player. But he's still. A very solid major league player and at times plays like an MVP to go there and get you know, Roberson in the bullpen and to do the things they did, gene sicker. They really tightened their team up. And then you go at star power and a guy middle lineup. I think they're going to be a tremendous team. The best move of this off season. Forget harper. Forget Manny Machado ESPN bringing back Doug Glanville. And of course, Josh we're going to bring him back with us at some point. No question on fired up about this. He is the man while he was on sports with Keith Olbermann. Talking about the Linda injury. It's terrible. And when you think about what he contributes to the Cleveland Indians. This is a player that works at excellent levels on both sides of the ball. I mean, it's not just the fact that offensively is a warrior out there every single day led the league and played appearances. And at bats two years running. He's a defensive mad magician out there gold glove award winner two-way athlete when you talk about switch hitting hitting both sides of the plate. And he contributes in those intangibles talking about Mr. small his ability to energize his team. So you have a power hitting shortstop. That's a silver slugger a winner that's be able to do power and speed. Doug. If there was one division. It looked like it was a runaway would have been the AL central but his Cleveland suddenly vulnerable in the AL central. And if so to whom while the definitely got weaker with Linda injury, but you look at the Minnesota Twins. That's the team I'm watching out for because you have young talent. That's now gain more experience. So we have a Rocco ball deli. A new manager first year we've seen the success of the Yankees. And the Red Sox have young managers that are able to be successful. And Doug was asked. She's he picking the Yankees or the Red Sox to win the American League east with the Yankees in part because of the bullpen. And when you look at the fact that Craig Kimball exited all of a sudden now that anchor that the Red Sox had last season has changed the Yankees. Now have an extremely long bullpen that for all intensive purposes. You could have a guy go four innings, and they have the capability to bridge their way to closing that game out if so much depth than that bullpen, and they've just added more pieces that. I'm not sure where you go. If you don't get to the Yankees early and often it's opening day. Lots to talk about let's get to it. It's more just a conversation. It's the weekly dish with Keith law on baseball tonight. Keep boss gas free S Pani, right? Three SPN. He's television for ESPN Keith. We were just talking about opening day superstitions traditions with Josh macrey. You don't strike me. Like, I'm not as someone who's got like this is my set routine on opening day. I'm wearing this set of clothes doing that sort of thing. There's no chance you're doing that kind of stuff. Oh my God. Now. No, no, no, no not. I'm not superstitious at all in any aspect of life. Particularly not for opening days is great. I enjoy opening day. But it's Also Thursday, I got up. I got my daughter's school. I'm drinking my coffee, like nothing's really all that different. Except I get to watch more baseball. There you go. And what game give me one game? You're looking forward to. I think the Mets nationals game just because the pitching matchup Graham shirts, or I mean, obviously degrom in the news. We'll talk about him. But even aside from that, maybe the best to pitchers in the National League lining up nationals. I opening day without Bryce Harper on the roster. Let's seven years seven or eight years. Yup. I take seven years now. So I still think they'll be good actually still pick them to win the division. But it's different. It's just going to be a very different look for that team. And obviously the Mets have turned a lot of the roster over Peter Alonzo makes the opening day roster could for them another team saying forget service time, we're just going to try to feel the best twenty-five we can so both those clubs are going to look different. And I am very much a sucker for a great pitching matchup. Those tend to be my favorite games to watch on TV or to attend as a fan. And I love this in the American League Blake snail going up against the Astros and Justin Verlander liason out this note. I'm sure you saw it will Thursday will Mark the first opening day major league history which both of the defending Cy Young award winner square off against fellow Cy Young award winners who finished second in the voting in the previous season. Look, I feel like that. When we watched a gronk today. Like, his context is now totally changed where it's not like, well, they had conversations in the spring, and it didn't work out and Noah Syndergaard expressed unhappiness, and we don't know what's going to happen. Will they put around the trade market during the summer is he gonna stay with the team now that he's agreed to this deal. It's all settled. It's all good. Yes. Yes. Well, that's I feel like it ends one conversation and starts another. So then it's all right. Well, they can extend Syndergaard. Do they trade? Syndergaard. I was told more than once this off season that the Mets were the ones calling around on. Syndergaard not the. Around not teams inquire hundred percent. But right. So that's interesting. Because if I'm a team like the San Diego where I'm getting, and I know -sego was one of the teams that at least kicked the tires. You know, you're getting close to real contender status. You've got strengthen the farm system. The one thing you probably don't have in the short term is a top of the rotation starter candidate. And obviously he does that not just saying the guy could see a few other teams the White Sox or another one who could fit that can be contender. Soon could use the top of the rotation guy does signing degrom meaning that syndergaards gonna get traded at some point do they just ride it out hoping to make the playoffs this season. I don't know. I just feel like we've now shifted the conversation from to you. What are they going to do with these two players to will they signed one does that make it that much more likely they trade the other? And I feel like there's no chance that syndergaards going to get the same type of deal that the ground did not based off any information other than the Mets history. Like, I don't see them paying another pitcher in the same way. What do you think? No. And he's not an I love Syndergaard. I have talked about him is somebody I think could win a young award at some point. But he hasn't done it. He has not had the track record of performance production or durability of degrom. And so as much things Syndergaard is has the potential to be great. I could not craft an argument for him. If I were his agent that he deserves something close to the ground contract. Maybe he gets that links that he doesn't get that eighty. We've talked during the week about the degrom extension. The more that I've thought about it. I it basically comes down to this. Once you made that decision last summer to not entertain trade offers for him, then you had to sign him and Scott, especially with how they went all in this year. They could not let this evolve into cancer situation, which it was going to become and I felt all along to that for Brody van wagon in this situation was incredibly risky that. Because if if Jacob degrom produce former client didn't get a long-term Beal, I thought within the clubhouse brody's credibility would have been completely undercut. What do you think? Guests and he's had a bit of a rough go here the debt. Rocco I think that's just a colossal error by the front office the way they've handled Missouri Akot so far. Two at pile on top of that say a situation where they don't give an extension to the reigning Cy Young award winner. Best price. Best pitcher on the team essential to their chances to contend not just in this year bening future years and a former client of an wagons thinks this was fraught with peril for four Brody. And I'm not saying he's out of it entirely. But I do think getting this one done, sir. Checking this box off does help him a little bit and just helps his credibility within the industry, which frankly is that high because everyone's looking at him saying that's the former agent playing GM, and that's that is not his credit. And I don't think he's seen the way that the other twenty nine GM's or seeing walk us through the mezro situation that you've made reference to so it appears you may know, a little more of the background than I do. But it appears that MS Rocco was under the impression when he signed with the Mets that he was going to make the club. That there was at least a backup job there waiting for him. And they instead chose to go in a different direction and asked him to go to AAA. And he said no again feeling like he'd be. And I'm not I don't know. What exactly he was told? I've saying he feels like he was misled about the situation told them that said if you send me to play I'm not going to report they chose to do. So anyway, he didn't report. And I believe he's been placed on the restricted list. He must be by now since its opening day. So they had to do something with you. And so now he's in limbo. He can't go anywhere else wanted them to release him if they weren't going to keep them on the major league roster. They could easily have done so at very little cost to themselves and yet chose not to do so chose to retain his rights. I guess just keeping him around as a backup option, but he's not reporting. He's obviously furious at this point. I don't really see the benefit of sir shifting to Pinon here. But I don't really see the benefit in creating this situation over player who is this. Your third string catcher your backup. In case. Your backup gets her. I at that point just released the guy teams do that all the time at the other spring training. I don't understand their motivation in picking a fight over something that looks to me on the outside to be fairly trivial. And by the way, this gesture that MS Rocco was told that he was going to be on the team came from BB Abbott his agent who was quoted along those lines. And you went back me up on this baby is one of the most respected agents in the game of that time. Larry solid. Yeah. Yup. And I have a hard time believing. He would come out publicly and say something like that. Even fact that wasn't the case. So I I agree with you. That was a that was a weird situation with the way they played out. Let's talk about the Lind door injury. What I was told was is that the they think he'll be fine. It was more of a mild type sprain. But wow for the Indians. It feels like just one weird thing after another Jose Ramirez gets hurt failing. Of all of his leg. And it looks like he's going to be okay to start the year if not on opening day, you know, he'll be back in the line of soon enough. But you, and I know a lot of times these things can linger, and then you have indoor with a cap injury before spring training, and he was going to come back and return to the plan was for him to return to the to the lineup and the roster on April ninth after they played some games in the cold. Well, now that's backed up, and I don't have time for your mind. My guess is with an ankle sprain. You're looking at least a month guessing, it's going to be some time in early may. I still think the Indians because of that rotation there the class of the American League central, but they're certainly more vulnerable than they've been. Yes, I agree. I've been saying all along I think the twins are are a legitimate. Do you want to call them dark horse? Maybe that's not even the appropriate expression. Because I think there are a little better than that. There at least a legitimate threat to take that division. I thought they were before this injury. I'd had I actually had Francisco indoor I wrote his I in my predictions column. I said he was my ale. MVP pick non Mike trout division. We sort of accept my Trump's going to be the most valuable player in the league. You gotta pick somebody else because it's just not interesting to say trout and when door easily one of the five best players in the league going to play for a contender going to put up great numbers. And now he's out for at least a month and two separate leg injuries. Who knows if he comes back on time if he comes back at one hundred percent, and I think this Ramirez Inder injury underscore the problem with Cleveland's off season. Which is that I think they looked at the division and said we've probably got this and didn't do really didn't do anything to improve the major league roster. They made it looks to me like an active choice. They really didn't do anything to especially address their outfield situation. Which is I think easily the weakest outfield of any contending team. And chose to ride it out. They may play Oscar Mocatta one of their top prospects at least for a good chunk of the season, which I think would be a good move. But they could have picked up a corner outfield option somewhere in free agency allow those guys were getting next to nothing in free agency. Because right now, again, that's that's I think a pretty significant weak spot for them, especially offensively. And now they're looking at losing potentially losing their two best offensive players for the first month plus the season. Maybe and it makes that decision look worse in hindsight. The decision not to try to add some thump in their corner outfield. Spot. Definitely looks worse today than it did a month ago. Yeah. And they have to hope that Carlos Gonzales hits right away. An open question at this point in stationed his career. Go ahead. I was just gonna say if you look at him in Colorado. He was one of the players. I think particularly benefited from playing the course where at least a way from course field. He really had trouble hitting off speed stuff. Had trouble moving really the more pitch moved the harder. The bigger difficulty. He had with it. That was a trait. He had before he went to Colorado got to Colorado and had those handful of real peak years, but he was this isn't a Nolan aeronautic Gonzales was clearly helped by playing in. No, I don't think you can Bank on a lot of offense out of him. Now that he's no longer playing at altitude. All right. Let's run through your predictions. I will start in the National League division by division. Okay. So I'll start with the National League east said already. I have the nationals winning. But I have it fairly close. Just two games over the Phillies. Also at the Phillies making the playoffs. Atlanta. Third Mets fourth game separating the two the Marlins clearly insists I could make cases for Atlanta or for the Mets getting into the playoffs here. I just think they're short of the two teams. I have at the top. I think those two teams have. A better baseline, and and a little bit more upside depending on how certain players perform if the Phillies get an MVP caliber year out of Bryce Harper, which we know he's capable of. But he's really only done at once in his career that could make turn them for being a ninety one team into a ninety three ninety four win team. And then they they do win the division. But I feel like those two in some order ended up advancing to the play offs. Nationally central. So tell me if you just agree. But I think that's the best division in baseball top to bottom. As a result. So I had the Burs winning division, but only with eighty eight wins, which is not so much saying that I don't think the brewers are that good. But I think these five teams are going to beat the heck out of each other. It's appropriate that bias cat is weighing in here now 'cause I'm talking about the cups. The brewers winning division the cartels and second by game. The cubs at. At the I had the cubs winning just eighty four games in third place and cubs there were there were angry cubs. Cubs tunes were very mad online yesterday. Even though I keep saying by predictions mean absolutely nothing. I have issues with the cubs bullpen in particular. I have issues with how they've deployed some of their personnel. I thought sending you and half to AAA was very strange decision. And the other thing is the cubs now after years of having a very strong deep farm system that they could use for trades or they could use tobacco the major league roster. They don't have that. Whereas the brewers absolutely do. Most of those guys are going to be on the big league roster and the cardinals continue to produce a lot of mid to second tier players tilt their big league roster. One thing I was factor into these predictions is what happens if guys get hurt because guys do get her all the time. And what do you do if you lose your third starter? What do you do if you lose one of your corner outfielders, you have guys and your system who can step in and supplement or you could flip in July in a significant trade? And I think this is the point where the cubs the decline of the cubs farm system finally catches up with them. Yeah. And I agree with you. We talked about that a little bit on the podcast yesterday. When if a Bumgarner is put out there than and teams are vying for trades. The cubs are not in a good position to compete with the Broers or the cardinals or any number of other teams for some of the best guys. It does apprise me though. Because I thought you know, and I think you, and I I mean, we we we are asked to give these predictions in early March and things change in one thing that changed lately. Of course, the brewers with their bullpen situation court Canaveral. Jeremy Jeffress, we don't know, exactly. Who's going to be around Josh hater? But that doesn't deter you know, I think it's the one because they have some pitching depths. Right. The way that they particularly you saw what they did. We've have spurted candidates burns and Woodruff we will roll those guys into the bullpen and break them in in that fashion. I think I mentioned Zac Brown who's at the back of my top one hundred prospects. When I did that in January said he could be a candidate to do the same thing. I think he's a starter in the long run, but they could break him in in a long relief role. They're doing the early ver- plan from the late nineteen seventies. Which I didn't know if I was going to see again in my lifetime. And they're doing it as if nothing's changed. Actually, I think it's brilliant. I think it's a great way to break in young starters. That's a great way to better utilize talent you already having your system as opposed to going out and paying for second tier relievers. Who are not just frankly, not a great bet if you're trying to project value over the short term. Yeah. I agree with you. I'd love the what how the brewers are building things. I did pick the cubs. I agree with you. And I think Tim Kirk chin framed it the best when he said, you know, the biggest question the National League central is not who's going to finish I but who's going to finish fifth. That's how how much depth there is in this division. It's the only division baseball. We're all five teams are going for it. You know, every division. It seems has one or two teams or three. The American League central where they're not really in contention. But this is divisions different who got winning the National League West. I mean, the the dodgers I said the dodgers for the I think the second easiest pass to the playoffs after Cleveland just to they don't think there's another team that close to them even with Clayton Kershaw probably showing he's mogul this year. And the dodgers are so much better than anyone else in the division. I think the thing that surprised some people just based on feedback. I got from readers yesterday was that the Rockies and the Padres tied for second in eighty two wins. It's probably a little pessimistic on the Rockies, but I'm fearing some regression from some of their starting pitching and probably a bit optimistic on the Padres. But I am optimistic on the Padres. I love what they did this off season. I love the fact that Chris paddock. And for instance, gonna be he and especially for Nando to teach junior on the major league roster. They'll get Louis odor. Yes. Back in a couple of weeks. I think by mid may or June or so may not be the strongest lineup and the strongest roster in the National League West. They will be by far the most interesting, and I do think they're the type of team will have a strong enough second half to push themselves to somewhere around that five hundred Mark. So who are you to wildcard teams in the National League? So that made it the Phillies and the cardinals until he's hosting matters. Ninety wins for the Phillies and eighty seven for the cardinals. So on Twitter yesterday posted my picks at some point in the last week game. Remember exactly what it was. But I got some immediate feedback about my miracle league picks. You only pick the favorites. It was a criticism. Like it was boring. And I'm like, well who else are you going to pick 'cause seem very latest so top heavy. You know? I mean, it really comes down the only real questions are who do you have winning division Red Sox or Yankees, Keith? Which one of those teams you got. Yup. I take the Red Sox. Okay. And that means you got probably the Anki in the wild card. I think there's a decent chance of the raises the wildcard. Yes. Bingo. Those are my two wildcard teams right there. And the central is Cleveland now, I had them closer to than probably other people. That's that's about it. The twins are another team that I'm just like I love what they did. I think they're sort of quietly. Good. I how hard time seeing that catching Cleveland. And in the west you pick the Houston Astros. Yes. How'd you guess? Exactly. And it's not really a big mystery. What happens in the American League? That's for sure I think, and would you agree with the general count that eight teams probably are in contention for those five spots. No more than eight teams. Yes. Would you count? The angels is one of those. I think so you know, what? I mean, if they do I kind of look at them as I kind of look at them as a way that I do the Mets where if you told me the Mets won the division. I'd say that's probably because degrom syndergaards Zack Wheeler made ninety five to one hundred starts. Yeah. They possibly could win that division. I feel like and I don't know of the angels could win the division. But I could see the making the playoffs if everything goes, right? Yeah. That's exactly how I feel about them. I have the missing the playoffs. I think about four games, which is not that much. I mean, these these are. My predictions are far from scientific, but I'm saying I think they're within shouting distance of a playoff spot, and it would require something similar to what you said. You know, if Skaggs he ne- stay healthy for most of the season and pitch like they pitch last year. Even a tick better is they get pretty good season out of Matt Harvey where news bad is I out Hewlett's a little better as last couple times out in the cactus league, just stuff. Wise seem to be better. Yeah. I could taint that scenario for you. And you never really want entirely count at a team with a ten win player in center field. I could I could see that scenario. And I think they're helped by the fact that the rest of the divisions week Oakland has has just gotten worse a lot because of injury, and because some of those guys going to repeat, but they did last year in Texas is still kind of building and Seattle deliberately took a step back. I think they needed to take. But they're going to be much worse. This year. Yeah. I was watching him yesterday through their workout. And they do have some players evalu-. I think they're going to be trading guys during the year. But that is a terrible defensive team. Yes. It is. And and it's pointed out to me yesterday. It's terrible defensive team. And they have a lot of salt throwers who need good defensive players. So yeah, I feel bad for Mark Hollis who is their opening day starter by the way, but he doesn't he's an upper eighties guy, usually they may be low nineties and he needs a good defense fine. He told us we met with Mark yesterday. Because we're in advance of today's game. He told us a really interesting story about how his dad's Frank who is now pitching coach in the Rockies farm system. He said that when he was teaching him command when he was a kid. What is dad would do is? He would bend down to catch crotch to catch. And he if Marco threw a pitch that was in his body in other words within his daddy's. He would catch the ball. But it was off he wouldn't even extend his arm for the ball would go go on down a hill behind him. And that was Marco's less than if you go to target. You gotta chase the ball. Down the hill. Marco was laughing as he told us his dad, also, by the way, put a change of grip in his hand. And he still uses today when he was nine years old. So there was some there being. Yeah. Oh, sorry. It'd be to cut you off because it's funny. You say that too because I saw I saw Marco as an amateur twice team USA and then the following spring in Arizona came down to Arizona, and you don't left with a decent breaking ball expectations. A soft toss left. He'll be curveball guy and the the absolute consensus at the time was nice breaking ball plus change. But really good change up. It's just teasing bit. That's the nine year grip. He's had since he was nine and it became I think it's still his best pitch. I mean, you could the fastball plays up because of the command. But he's a great athlete. He can really swing the bat actually for a pitcher or at least could as an amateur and he's a change up lefty. We don't see a lot of those guys. I think there's some industry bias against those guys. But he to me is one of the best examples of a guy who left you who shows that you can really succeed as a lefty with your change up as your primary outpitched. Yeah. You should have seen him yesterday describing his how the ball rolls off. There's he has a great feel for that pitch. Not surprisingly as you said since it's been throwing at such a young age quick Bleacher tweets for you before you go first, we got this from sterling at stir rights Seventy-three. He said forget vitamin vitamin GRA junior service time is no longer consideration. Do you think Boba Shet would be starting the season with Jay's case, I don't think? So and I am a huge guy. Top fifteen prospect for me, he did not dominate doubling the way some of these other prospects were talking about did. And I do think there's still some question about what his ultimate position is going to be. So there are justified reasons for sending him down to AAA for part of the season. An atom wolf asked. Now that the Padres have decided to add tat tees and Chris paddock to the major league roster doesn't make sense for them to add Dallas kaikal now more than ever. What do you think? Debatable. Like, that's a maybe. And I'm not trying to avoid the question. But I I don't know what looking for at this point. Yeah to right. It just depends. If he's also if does adding kaikal on a one year deal makes Padres a playoff team. I don't think. So I don't know what you think, but I know makes them better. But I don't think it puts them into the playoffs. And then do you wanna give kaikal three four years? Well, you'd love to have kaikal rotation for twenty twenty but you don't want to overcommit because he's had some injuries and he's on the older sides. Yeah. I feel very sort of lukewarm. And but I wouldn't say no either I think it like you said it just comes down to the price both the salary and the number of years required to get him to socking. From what I understand when they were conversations between kaikal and the Astros earlier this month or the Astros offer was one year for fifteen or two years for twenty four. If I were a friend of Dallas kaikal am today. Look, whatever your best offer is wherever you want to sign whatever you feel like is the best thing on the table right now, you need to take it. Nasty take it and need to go back and you need to pitch. And if you are sort of designing a way back into the free market next fall, that's fine. But just start pitching he depit ski does he needs to. I totally agree. And it's gonna take him a couple of weeks get ramped up. So if he signs today, maybe he doesn't debut until may first or so, but then he comes out next twenty three or twenty four starts. But if he pitches like does that could just like good Dallas kaikal he'll be in good position next. Winter's free agent market, which again is not particularly strong, and he would be one of the best starting pitchers available. He thanks for doing. This have fun today. Yup. My pleasure. You to let me tell you about Pete who loved hockey and always wanted to play in the NHL Pete played since he was three and begged his mom to let them stay on the ice by some nights. He even slept in its hockey skates. Pete practiced and practiced until one day when he was forty seven peak realized he just wasn't that good. So he threw his skates in the trash. But then you heard how DIKO proud partner of the NHL good save money on car insurance. So he switched and saved a bunch. So it all worked out numbers game. Jerry Lang is a producer a reporter for Melby dot com. Sarah, we know we know that you're locked into today to that matchup between Jacob degrom. And max sherzer besides that game. What give me a game? You looking forward to the most today on opening day. Oh my gosh. I'm looking forward to absolutely everything. I can't even I'm so excited to see Madison. Bumgarner pitch on opening day. Again, you know, we were looking forward to it last year. And he got hurt in his last spring starts. So, you know, I'm assuming he'll hit three home runs because he hit two last time you start on opening day. But I'm only going to knock do they start planning. So the really looking forward to. Yes, syria. You're one of the people who in this kind of drives me crazy the end of the World Series. You're like the first person to go one hundred twenty six days till spring training. And I'm just like when I read that. I'm like, no. At the end of the travel of the postseason, but it feels like every day you're counting down in following your your Twitter feed. All right. Let's play the game number three. Number three's twenty. That's how old Fernando to teach junior is today twenty years and eighty five days old to be exact. So if he starts today he'll be the youngest player to start on opening day since Adrian beltway in nineteen ninety nine at nineteen years. Three hundred sixty three days old to tease was born in January of nineteen ninety nine. And there's a lot of people pointed out when I tweeted this out the other day nine hundred ninety nine was the year that Tateishi his father hit two grand slams in inning for the cardinals against the dodgers who had beltway playing third base. So everything comes full circle. And if to tease homers today, he would be the second youngest player to Homer on opening day older than only Robin yount, and he'd be the ninth youngest overall to Homer in his major league debut, according to allies number two. Number two is eight. The Orioles have won eight straight opening day games. If they win today, they'd be tied for the second longest opening day win streak in MLB history. According to allies the beans, which are now the Braves won ten straight from eighteen eighty seven through eighteen ninety six and when allies told me that I was thinking those opening days could have been in October for all we know based on the beginnings of baseball history. And then of course, the Browns Orioles franchise one nine straight as did the Mets the reds and most recently the Mariners from seven through two thousand fifteen number one. Number one is ten the Rockies have hit a home run in each of their last ten opening day games. That's tied with the nineteen sixty three seventy two reds for the longest streak in NL history. According to Elias, and it's type of the third longest such streak. Overall. The Yankees homered in fourteenth straight opening day games from nine hundred ninety nine through two thousand twelve and the Rangers did so an eleven straight from two thousand two also through twenty twelve. All right. So I want to see if you agree with me on this. The two candidates for overreaction second day the highest overreaction to opening day results. One. If the Yankees lose to the Orioles and struggles did evening last year. The papers New York will go absolutely crazy because the Orioles are God awful and the second. I think candidate the Red Sox if their bullpen has an issue and they lose the game to Seattle. That's one you're going to see a lot of the writers going on. What do you think? Yeah. I think definitely I think those are storylines that we've already seen, but you know, the those Yankees fans and whoever else should remember that they did not start too. Well last year and look how great of a season they had. But I agree. I think that those are the markets and everything for those kinds of overreactions. But you know, I'm interested to see what the reaction to Bryce Harper is if you were to go over four, I mean, we know what happened last year with Abe Kappler that teams in a different spot now. But this is a home game. He's facing Tehran who he? Ashes against so if he were to go for four which happens, by the way, plenty and could happen on July third, and it would be less of a big deal. We'll see what happens there. And and if he goes over four with three punch outs, and they lose he gets booed. He here's his first booze in Philly. I think just tradition. Yes. Yeah. Opening day. It's like Christmas, right? There's lots of lots of things involved there. Open. All right. Sarah, thanks for doing this. And I'll talk to you next week. Thanks for having me investor. So Mendoza lie with Sunday night. Baseball's Jessica and does. Just as you, and I are talking run the in the visiting dugout at T mobile field. We have to get that right to mobile. Of course. Right. Exactly. But you got earlier today day before opening day you spend time on a tower with Jackie Bradley, jR. Oh my gosh. So we took off at like eight AM when I what were you doing on a private jet? We were doing volcano tour. And so it was just Jackie Bradley, jR, myself and the Red Sox production team, and we got to go see mount rainier and mount Saint Helens and it was like a two hour tour flying. It was a beautiful morning to BUSTER like to be able to see the clarity of mount rainier. I mean going to school in the Pac twelve and playing it you dub and always having that as a backdrop I've always wanted to go up close. But to be honest like mount Saint Helen's, I think was the one where flying over it. And it was cool sitting there next to Jackie, and he was like a ten year old dislike looking on my gosh. This wants to blown-up so crazy look like this beyond giant massive hole in the top of it. And of course, like history both of us like learning as much as possible about both of the mountains and. Kind of picturing what it would have been like. But anyway, it's just cool to see. I love it. And I was even talking to the production team to humanize these guys and seeing them like I mentioned Jackie being almost like a ten year old and wanting to go to Seattle and see what there is to see here. Yes. Since opening day. And yes, the Red Sox won the championship in his brain. He's like what he wanted to go. See orca whales. I that got shot down because it's like a six hour day. But to be able to go on this volcano tour, and I know he's going to be doing a couple of other things while he's here, museums and aviation place. He really does take advantage of the places he travels to and that table was shit when we were doing the broadcast on March six and he said when he was wearing microphone had might go some sort of a whale watch. But as you say that just didn't work out. But it's cool that you got to do that. By the way, I asked you could do that too. He said he had other plans. So thanks. No. I'm not kidding. That's one hundred percent true. He said he's working at something else. So you, you know, I was going to go on that flight to but never mind. It didn't work out for me. All right. So what are you looking at on top of the plane that would have been on? So what are you looking forward to for opening day? Mariners Red Sox. I'm excited to see Chris sale. The starting pitching I mean as much as I love all of the stars. That will be the defending champs exciting players that there are within the Mariners organization. I look forward to seeing Chris sale and Marco Gonzales, which diving into him where you get to speak to him a little bit today. But he's he's someone that's very intriguing to me what he's done to develop himself. Not a big walk guy. Very few super nerdy on all his numbers. But someone that you know, like, many doesn't throw a lot of fast balls anymore is very much a secondary guy yet only he averages one point seven pitches per plate appearance, which is super unusual. And it's one of the lowest in all of major league baseball, the someone that's really going to tack batters. Which I like in the TV industry is like, yes, we get more players that are like this. But yeah, I think Yellen opening day, which is like a national holiday you get very excited for that. But I'm looking. Forward most to the pitching matchup. And I think we'll all be watching Chris sales velocity. Like, we are you know, since what he went through last fall. And we'll all be looking for that bullpen situation for the Red Sox. Alex Cora has. As he should is manager. The Red Sox spoken very dismissively about the concerns about their bullpen will be fine. We'll find solutions here. I think that's how Alex thanks. And I also think if you have managed to the Red Sox, that's what you should say. I was gonna say is that when he thinks there's what he has to say. I know Alex is someone to totally be s by any means. But I mean, what's he gonna say like Buchen is nowhere near where it needs to be. And we need some help. I don't think that they even something that he he could convey, but it is absolutely the truth in my opinion. They do need help. There's no way. I mean, even coming to the policies, you remember that was the biggest storyline and biggest weakness. So would they do it wasn't. Yes. They got some guys step up for the most part of the us their stars. I mean it was their starting pitching. That really was was the advantage after winning seven to be able to come in and pitch a lot of those innings. Rick Portillo at Rodriguez, Nick Nathan evolved, e even Chris sale. I mean, that's what helped them. It wasn't that. They had these shining closers in Craig kimbrel even struggled so much. So I know they don't have. Him this year? But their bullpen has to get an upgrade in my opinion. Let someone comes through the minors or they get another couple of rising rising players, and I heard about today from Dee Gordon he is taken out a full page ad to thank each row. Of course was his teammate with the Marlins teammate with the Mariners of full-page ad that he's paying for in the Seattle times. We don't know what he wrote. But he told us about waking up at four o'clock in the morning and pending this tribute to his friend and his teammate has his basically, his fiancee mentioned, you know, you just posted anything on Instagram Reich is BUSTER nothing is official unless you actually put it out on social media, and to discredit he's like, I just felt like this was so deep that it was more than just an Instagram posts that I should write about each your own what he's meant to me. And so yeah, he woke up four o'clock in the morning and wrote this letter to each row, and I love that he paid which by the way is not cheap at all. And he said, I mean think about. He could call the Seattle times it would easily put that in. But it wouldn't have editorial control. So he decided to run this ad for each euro. And write it in his words the way he wanted to say it, obviously publicly through a letter which I feel like it's so old school. And so de Gordon, and I got a chance to talk to him about that moment. And you'll remember each rose last game. He gets taken out of the game. And he indeed bowed to each other and the D returns to his position, and he's weeping. And he told me some really interesting details about it. Somebody said look you can't ever write this off the record. But he talked about. Exchanging that way, you know, having that exchange with each row, and then just being sort of overcome by the moment. And that's where he wasn't his position at second base. That was really neat in your time. With Jackie, I'm curious if you guys had any conversations about all these contracts extensions you know, Paulin bikinis detail that force on Wednesdays podcast twenty players since February tenth getting a contract extension guys who weren't going to be free agents or didn't weren't free agents, which is fivefold what we normally see in spring training. Yeah. It was it was interesting. 'cause I we're writing back from the trip this morning, and I had my phone out. And I saw Jacob degrom on Instagram signing his deal. And what do you think you sitting next to me? I'm like this is crazy time right now. I mean, I've never seen anything like it. The amount of extensions and it was funny because then everyone in the car kind of like pas the kind of like, what is his reaction to all this. And he he kind of haunts for a little bit. And his thing was like, you know, I think it's it can be really awesome for the game. And for those players, but you know, it does need to be, you know, across the board to you know, you look at like the players that. Have you know, not a lot of big money contracts? And that everyone talks about like, the big huge contracts that no one wants to paint anymore because of these examples of these huge ridiculous deals and a good point that he made was like what about the Christian yelich? What about the Jose Ramirez? I you have these two guys that are MVP caliber ridiculous players, and you look at their contracts, and what they're getting paid. No one ever talks about that. And to me, I thought that was such a great point. Because when you hear about his whole, sir. Josh Hamilton, my trout. Yes. Miguel Cabrera like, you know, the past obviously. Now, you know, the Chris sales and all these extensions. But, you know, he he, you know, his point was, you know, obviously, like everyone there has to be something that needs to be changed. So that's across the board. And I just thought it was interesting that he did point out all the players that, you know, are deserving of huge contracts that don't have them. But that's not what he tension goes. Everyone wants to talk about how great the game is look at all the money that's going to the ten percent of players. You know that are getting ninety percent of the money. And we've been talking on the podcast how I mean, you know, how these jams are they are absolutely cold-blooded terminators, and they're not making these deals unless they make sense. But the team in most cases, and that's why big picture I agree with Jackie that it feels like a win for the owners again for a lot of these contracts that they can lock up players like Luis Severino. Aaron Nola Blake Snell to really team friendly deals. Jackie comes from an interesting place one I've had conversations with them in the past about contracts. He loves numbers, and he's a Scott Boras clients. Yes, exactly. And that's how this came up in the first place to is. He was he memorized numbers. He was talking about how he got in the night before. He's unlike what time did you get into Seattle last night. And he was like eight oh two. Oh, really? And he's like, yeah. Took us twenty twenty. He had it down to the exact minute. And I was like a numbers guy. I just remember this stuff, but it is interesting with with Boris as his agent, you know, where? He ends up. And I felt like that was kind of the elephant in the car. If you will of like what Jackie deserves and Scott's coins do not sign. These team friendly extensions before they had free agency ninety five percent of Scots clients go into free agency. Yeah. I mean that was brought up and he brought up Stephen Strasburg and Jose altuve immediately. So I know that he's had that conversation and that I don't wanna say defensiveness. But definitely that like, okay, you know. That is the reputation, but I believe that he has got worse has had clients that if you want it you tell him this demand. This is you're present me. And this is what I absolutely want. Jackie going to be that guy. I don't know. But you're right. The numbers definitely show that extensions aren't usually a Boris. Everyone's wondering Williamson he ran dome. Yes. Be the Boris client who says no I want to stay here. But that's been Anthony Rendon things. He said he works for me, which I love that. Like, I love hearing that because in so many ways of these big name agents, you feel like it's the other way around, you know, someone myself who has an agent lotta times, you get caught up in like their advice versus you sit literally putting your foot down and saying he's for such a small level. But saying look, I I actually pay you to do what's best for me. And I get that. I will take your advice, and you will give me what you think. But then of the day with Scott Boris. I do believe that it is a players job to say, look, Scott. An actually in a lot of ways. I'm sure Bryce Harper. Did that to his saying I want this huge on a long time to be there? I want thirteen years. I don't want an object. I don't wanna trade. I don't want anything. I want to know that I sign this contract. And this is what I'm going to get just links see at the ballpark. Thanks buster. Mike Greenberg sat down and Commissioner. Rob manfred. Here's port two of that interview. It feels to me as I watched this. But of a distance as though you're engaged in a little bit of a battle over the soul of the game. Like baseball is so important in so many ways to people, and it feels like there are so many people out there who were saying the beauty of this game has always been the fact that it's pace is what it is that it is not hurried that there is no clock. What is your interpretation over the battle? If that's the right word that you are in over that. Yeah. I think of it as managing change in the game in two respects, you say keep it the way it's always been well the pace of our game was not always a three hour and five minute game. The pace of our game was not always thirteen strikeouts. A bunch of relief pitchers and a couple of home runs. So I think the. About it as the game is changing organically, and we have an obligation to manage that change. So that we keep the sport as popular. It's always bad. I'm not looking at change the game. We're going to have nine innings. You know, we're gonna have four balls three strikes. Three outs. But I think it's important to think about what was the game, historically, how what what made it so appealing to people and has the organic change in the game allowed us to drift away from those things that people love so much. Let's talk about contracts. So it was sort of a circuitous route to get there. Right. This off season. But in the end, Manny Machado, gotta deal that three hundred million dollars Bryce Harper got a deal that was more than that. And then after that, Mike trout gotta deal that's over four hundred million dollars. Right. And for those there were a whole bunch of players they wound up getting one year deals that I think expected better. So the question is when we take all of that. What does it all say about the state of? The game economically right now. Look, I think it's the market operating. The MVP as done a phenomenal job. They've always wanted a free market. They have the freest free agency in professional sports. No salary cap. No rights of first refusal. No franchise tags players go out into that market. And the market speaks as to value. The markets spoke, Mike trout, probably the greatest player in our game today, and he got paid in a way that would suggest he's the best player and that should happen. Oh, you know. It's perfect. That's what the, you know. That's what the system produced. Conversely, you know, when you have players that, you know, take a stat, you know, there one war players it shouldn't be a surprise to anybody that those players got a one year deal. It also feels like it's a little different than it was recently as you have come out of what people will describe as the steroid era your beyond that now. So it feels like there's a little more normalcy in the life expectancy of these. Players. And so were they were getting ten year contracts at the age of thirty that doesn't make much sense anymore. Is there where does that leave us when we look at the future of long-term contra? Well, I think you're seeing it out there. I mean, if you look at the productivity that's producing the industry as a whole, it's moved down in the age service group, right? And so because clubs recognize this what you're seeing are these extensions out there? Everybody's writing know. You know, there's extensions going on because players don't wanna go to free agency. I don't really see it that way the way I see it is there's extensions going on because plugs are paying players at the point in time in their career that the most productive, and that's a good thing. Leisure tweets. I was gonna say I one of the day BUSTER, but it's not it's actually the third because we've got to those two with Keith Sodhi third Bleacher. Tweet of the day comes to us from James Demeo at Mojo rise in at six eighty three James says, which comeback player are you most excited to watch this season to Lewinsky, but Draa Seeger or other. I think the draw I had a conversation with him the other day, and he seems really confident like he's in a good place. He's trying to it's Red Sox that he's fine. The sort of the last year it'll for him is to show in these minor league games that he can play in back to back days. And I think he's going to be an upgrade it least defensively over what they had last year. I got it. I'm skeptical about Tila, wet ski and you hope for the best. But I just in watching spring training. He was struggling with high velocity. And that's what sport is about. Now, a bunch of high velocity. We'll see how he does. What about Seager? He was actually my pick. They'll be fine. Cousin? Come on husband. Corey is fine. Okay. And that's why I'm most excited to watch him because he's the one that I think can actually contribute. Most this season. I'm happy to hear your optimism on Padro. I don't necessarily share it with you when I think Segers Gabby fine. Which is why I think he's going to be the most exciting to watch this season. Regina Wilson is next at Margarita Noi. Regina says when I was a kid. My dad used to lament the bygone era of players spending their entire career with one team with the current trend of contract extensions or we entering a new era of that phenomenon. Regina, love your question. I love your observation to the point just clip this one off we're gonna use it as the weekly watched it on ESPN radio. Okay. Okay. I mean Nolan are Nado, Mike trout. Jacob degrom. These are superstar players who appear to be locked into play for one team for their whole careers. I that's really cool. And maybe all these extensions will help in that trend. But yeah, absolutely. Wait it way to recognize that in the weekly watch you can catch that in the pre game show leading up to tonight's game on ESPN radio if you'd like to hear that answer again Kyle Benning at Kyle underscore bending says BUSTER, we all know that spring training standings don't matter one bit. But looking at the standings coming out of spring training, which playoff hopeful teams sub five hundred performance is. Is the most alarming and could be cause for concern this season. The cardinals Mets Red Sox, dodgers or Rockies. Among those teams. I'd never heard any sort of five alarm concerns from folks with other teams because one of the things that I like to do in midway through spring training and into spring training alas people with the team may, hey, what have you seen in spring training among other teams? And in most years, you'll get back. Wow. That team looks great. Or that team looks absolutely awful. I never heard any five alarm concerns about any of those five teams that are mentioned cards Mets Red Sox dodgers Rockies. I am curious Josh. And I want to know if you agree with what I was saying about the over reaction potential to the Red Sox bullpen like it. Feels like we're going to go into the year. Alex Cora has not defined who's going to do. Exactly. What is bullpen? I'm sure he has some ideas in mind. But if they lose a game or two early in the year with that bullpen, there's going to be a lot. Written and said about it. Yeah. There's going to be a lot of panic. And I think rightfully so. Because they were it was a concern last year as well. They were able to manage and get their way through it. But as I've said a couple times on the podcast everything went right for the Red Sox last year, and they are able to weather a lot of storms. It's unusual water find its level kind of thing. It's the law of averages. And so if things go the opposite way, especially early this season, I think a lot of people are gonna hit the panic button early. Absolutely. Finally, Brian Simpson at be simp- twelve o two seventy four BUSTER is it possible that you're underestimating the Rockies they have great starting pitching powerful lineup. And a great manager. It seems like too many people are gift wrapping the NFL west of the dodgers right now. And they have some serious concerns with their starting pitching. Yeah. Brian. I might be overlooking the Rockies I think the big thing is they didn't make a lot of additions during the winter. They had Danny Murphy. I think will be good for their lineup. But they didn't address some of the other holes. I think it comes down to those two guys at the front end of the rotation if they're effective then. Yeah, you could see the Rockies back in playoff position the Bleacher tweets today. It's a great day. It's opening day. The marathon starts today while it started last week. But it starts for everybody else today. So we're going to need those Bleacher glance all year long. Exactly use the hashtag Bleacher tweets. That's it for today. My thanks to Mike Greenberg to rob Manfred, Sarah Lang's to Keith law. Jessica Mendoza and Josh macrey who produces here. Most days have a great day everybody and joy opening day. For listening to the baseball tonight podcast if you claim fantasy baseball don't forget to listen to the fettuccine, focus podcast checkout, all podcasts at ESPN dot com slash pod. Separate baseball tonight. The podcast.

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Ep 117 - Boogie Bomb

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Ep 117 - Boogie Bomb

"Boyce this place looks nice up here gorgeous right. What's out? This is not only in his past sombor notes. Practical you're ripping the tape scientific data. What's up for murder? SOMEBODY KIDNAPS EH kid deficit. No crime scenes the crime scenes. I'm C. C.. You could put a hot dogs on type person after a while. You just become best friends with the kidnapper. That's called Stockholm Syndrome stock homes. I think they would Stockholm Syndrome toward Hindu. Instead of like they would just get so sick that they would let him go. That's what I think he would become like a pet. We're brutally murdered at wall. I don't think he'd be brutally murdered. I don't think anybody could do that to you. They call it go specialist kid as they examine the corner. Get Him to stop talking. The Sylla's I've thought about being like I was getting at before although I was going to happen to me before and I was like this is going to be an interesting. You know I think a moment of clarity like two minutes before before I thought I was GONNA get kidnapped. There was like five people walking behind me in this alley. Mexico knows it New York when I was heading to work at like five thirty and I was like man. I'm only only person around right now. Why are these people walk? There's nobody on the street why these people walking like six feet behind me like it's an awkward close. Well all right. I'm going to get kidnapped in New York City. It's going to be awesome. The house like wondering like if digs was in some gambling debt. We're GONNA take your fucking friend. We'll take him back if he's legs Alexa. What's your first move so five around? You always keep a wall next year. That's all I've always said. Can you can bounce off of it. It's not like wrestling ropes. Though like Superman Punch you're gonNA use your Olympic like rap. You use that wall loss. Yeah or you put that against Ah yourself over because if you have against. You won't be able to do anything unless gay people away from you. Don't believe they wrap you kick their friend and then the friend goes flying and then you Ugo flying into the wall but the guys got you wrap so he hits himself he gets knocked out of media. And you're GONNA backflips right. I used to be able to do a standing backflip. You so you can do it back over wall. Yeah Yeah but that those days are long long ago but if you're endanger though come right back Drennan. They're traveling one step up. Hit The wall off your flight. That was my coolest part of jokes by the way. Just fucking stand there and doing a back door very drunk and always plays always then I did one time too drunk and it was like probably should end this little fucking by the way if I if I'm ever kidnapped or whatever do whatever yeah let them kill me. It's fine. No no I mean we want to have conversations with record those all book at. Yeah for your story. We're talking to his captors The night they killed him they said this dude has not told us that he was a Beta enough and we could do whatever we just talked shit on. You take whatever you like. You make a video. Because that's what they always have news. They make video right to send a ransom in. That always happens what. What a terrible situation? Though todd you ever worked kidnapping case. Yeah good one. What do you mean a good one? Like a real like they were going to kill the lady. We literally bars into the hotel. The room was there okay. Hey yeah they. They thought it was stage. The first because it came across as we'll have observed this wealthy man the Annapolis on fire. Yeah had a daughter Autre who had a drug problem. A little crack problem or K.. Anthony Okay Mark. Yeah he was the Mark Anthony type figure except he had a daughter who wasn't five adorable. He had a daughter who's grown crack a little different story. But that guy was really good friends with the guy the lieutenant of the drug section for the state police so he contacted him directly because his daughter had called and said these guys have me and they want money so initially tapes out worked out today so mmediately all drug guys like like you've had this case a million times. She wants money to buy drugs so she. Oh this is norm so normal you call your parents say you're being held against your. Will you need to send money and then you really kidnapped shelf right fucking matures but then cell. He started working at anyway. Because he's friends with the I sell they bring in a guy. One of our guys could track With the phone company to track payphone calls back in the day. payphones don't so it's a little delay. Those only problem so they got everybody and their brother. They could've had like an unmarked car. Got Us all up there and when they would get a location on ransom call from the kidnapper. We've tried to run to that area. Yep while there's such a delay we just kept getting there would be nobody there. Finally at one point join This uniform officer says hey I think I got a car that that looks good for this. so He's falling it. I get get behind him immediately and he stops the car and we stop. It is four blackbirds in. It would get him out for a second and start like cursory inspection of the car. We see pepper spray. Because the story she told was that they pepper sprayed the dog walk when they went in there like. Oh that's kind of interesting saw Samoa stuff started to add up one point. Handcuffed him all my buddy and I are going through the car and we find a hotel room key. It's like do we need to send everybody in the brother to this hotel and check it out. They get their kick it in and she was duct taped. She's all up in the bathroom and being held at gunpoint by this dude and he ended up admitting to me see that he is instructions. Where that if they didn't return the next hour that he was supposed to kill her because she knew she did buy drugs off of him she knew him before for him but they really took her captive? They realize that her dad was rich. Yeah won like three hundred grand a big ransom so not not in a crack. Problem won't over things you can't have no kid have it. I mean it does give you a lot of money spin on crack eventually scrupulous dealer is going to say well. I ain't get a lot more money. Awesome yeah it turned out pretty. Yeah we were like out there for. I mean it was a long process and it was pretty cool the first time I'd experienced them tracking phones of any kind so it's like yeah kind of ensure that was working in 'cause we had so many misses right and then boom it worked hale. Yeah bad ones or the person did the girl thank you. Oh Yeah Yeah and the DAD. Dad bought us all these gifts and then the state police were like. Ou can't take gifts. Yeah but the cheese. Thank you no good. I never met in person. Crack girl has been Not Crack Girls. No now the sexual favors from what I've heard. That's a crazy life. You lived odd. Yeah Yeah it was a that was a pretty good one. That's the one one of the cases like that. I think all the guys I worked with like we're most products isn't very often actually saves the body from getting murdered by yourself to poor car over all right. I didn't enter the hotel room. By the way was her Chrissy. I was in charge. I grabbed the guys up because I had interviewed them to get information in case they didn't find through there. You're good at picking apart during conversation. That sounds like bullshit to macer and I ended up being like the lead investigator. The guy filed all the charges so hi to keep track of all the evidence that was coming in own. Don't I don't think I've ever seen that shillue deserve the undefeated. DNC KNOWS DRAMA FOR BEING ON ON USA USA. Also no that's your channel shows burn notice. 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You can leave your wives girlfriends. Whatever eight years come back and they used to so much fucking that kids just pop in coming back back for more? Sex is good sex. I heard round the beds. I would guess I would guess I would assume so but I saw I saw. There's some I g influence or who wants Schools stopped teaching about World War Two because it's too intense. ooh tough that's GonNa talk off God the damage that's succession. What about intense moments in life late when you're on a bird studer you're going a little bit sideway? It's like you have to learn about intensive moments if not was no now I didn't mean you I could possibly in reference to about a seven a million other people that are very through. There's intensive moments that happen in life in that just so happens to be one. I think it's pretty doctors if you don't teach intense moments. Yeah what are we going. It's going to pass out every time he opens up a heart. I concur by the way I don't like seeing blood you don't you're out on it. I don't know Why my autumn okay. Yeah it's UH somebody else's I agree with that. What about movies? Can you see like violence. Stuff on. Screen I think so. Yeah I don't like the awkward stuff that we're looks like it hurts like there's videos videos at Internet where people like fuck kilt like really trumped themselves up to it. Yeah there it hurts me. I'm like Oh my God my Shin. Why did he do that? Like it hurts me where it's at. Just the thought arms twisted he said Nick those type of videos and I fucking love it. And he's like I know you love it but it's just not just can't do it. We can't do it they. It's terrible I I mean people love it though those things move the needle eight four. Yeah got a whole fucking twitter. Yeah he lives jobs on it a lot. More charges than block see Puke. I don't love the Buke I think is a sound more smell smell. You can't I can't smell the PUKE Don't please no have you seen someone who's been serial puking and all time Jews you know it's four times I've seen things on PD so they walk up to my car and they puke. Oh my God Malcolm so for people that don't work in this the office everyone who listens to this you walk out to your car. Every day. You See Puke by your car while you're talking about exactly never annoying. Yesterday there was a fucking fresh. Yes happening walgreens. It's having the mall. It's happened here is what is your car. It's following you. Maybe yeah almost our parking across the street different spot movie but they keep falling on your parked in a parking lot. Go straight yeah so we have five spots over there and then there's two random like possible ones in those spots are always taken by somebody in your saying that. Somebody's finding your car directly. bucase possible that it's getting close enough. They're smelling your feet from rowing up. Immediately I hope not yes. I know this was happening this morning in Tim McAfee was the only person that was here here. His car was in there and I said Tim you sick this morning. There's a fresh fresh pile right at the driver's side door of his car is no when I got there. I saw it to see what is going on everywhere. Here's a couple of bums and sit on my motives. You really came in well. Two the days ago yes. I came in to watch the football games on Sunday in front of the building. Here's what up on the road and I parked and I had shelby out the first time I drove her in longtime is pretty good at I park because the truck was that Say's hanger so I'd cars all over the place. I go to get it so I drove shelby abby and as soon as I parked there's these three bums and they're talking. They were scheming something. It was like a huddle of bums on the sidewalk. Suzanne Park it they go. Oh Damn that's what. They said what I opened. The thing tweeted a photo with this house again. Put cellphones mismanaging your money. The in as I'm walking away to walk in there like we sit on the hood for the photo and I was like no like I. Just do it and don't ask me like that's the problem because make bad decisions done that and not as me but I mean very nice to get my but obviously I'm gonNA say they now they're like okay so we should wait. Go inside go inside. Yeah so I think you're you're bum bum bum juice all my uh-huh photo to flex and whatever on what are some of our people that were friends with on facebook or they just bums just posted on cellphones will live on your lucky that it You're here because otherwise they would've throw a brick through that in. Just grab whatever chains you had probably put on their bubble has it classic Bombo because it's a homeless bull non. How long we have the Indianapolis Awhile City? Lot of bombs uh-huh uh-huh yeah we have some bumps good amount. I argue cluster together to like you never see him. Like one of them will be like what I'm GonNa go with Nice neighborhood and sustained around. Yeah they're always like one of the state in the worst neighborhood. Maybe if you're free you got your no rules. Wonder Hang L. IN CARMEL INDIANA. It's real nice. Get Spit on a bunch of cliquey though here hang hang around the CVS walgreens that's a little that's turf war really either with Walgreens or CVS. It's battle would you be with if you're a bomb which one gives free The arm pressure things. CVS tobacco anymore. Walgreens Walgreens your bomb. You're picking that that's probably yeah. I got no shot earlier. CVS sounds backing on his bulbs. They'RE GONNA lose the bowmore and they don't care about any blood pressure there over that by the way. You're only doing something to do if you're bum. You're nobody actually does that anymore. And you don't want time that you've done but if you're a bomb it's like remember the three o'clock we're doing that I love that hurts so bad month ago so bad I haven't done it so long. You get the needles in your handwrite. quick-fix what was the one where you would squeezer and it would tell you. Yeah Yeah Bullshit as the best yeah. GNC is thing. We'll tell you how much you pay like. Six Bucks in quarters tell you how convince the people that make that the people that make those true love meters that both people grabbed you sat. Everyone's those things you'll get those ones that shock you mhm. I mean that's pretty. Good a little buzz. Other Spurs haven't caught a lawsuit. I mean I think that you didn't bars take out the US you ever see those breathing free then contest. Whoever get close to one point do those are my read about? We had a friend that had one in writing in a bar. You put a quarter and then they give you a straw and you put inside a thing you blow never seen it in a bar for driving right. This is like in bars. But now they're not zero tolerance basically everywhere Well and also because meat heads really org. That's probably my score. The very presence invites a challenge. Yeah the boxing thing can Dan those things. How many battles did that thing start across the country lots? You knew what you were getting to go ahead and pop. UFC pay-per-view on their it might as well have your head on a swivel shit is going in there you have ca a muscle dude. He's a real he's. He's the best trash talkers ever been natural trash. Yeah he's better than McGregor hammers to you can strike. And he's in that hungry angry states like we always talk about. He's still hungry yes. He'll fuck and take off. Dana won't sign that fight. I'll fucking kill that dude. So naturally they just natural trash talk that will sell fight for sure sign off on a murder by connor. McGregor has to fight him right. Yeah especially after that. I mean b. m. f. belts online McGregor's gotTA show up. Is that rocks official belt. By the way he got quite a pop when he showed up Berman the Rock and do whatever the fuck. The Raucous Nate Diaz wasn't a fan of. It's not at all fucked Iraq. He's he he he's cool to fucking get to. They say that he did. Bill is don't give a fuck fuck a people's elbow stockins left though they do call that that's what he did to Connor McGregor time. They slaps on the ring. They call it a stockton slap and that was in. That was in a tweet read. How do you know this you have Ceesay? Yeah I'm a big Guy I like I like the I like that. The fight there I like both of them. Their taught the thought that he was fighting. Kimba slices backyard and now he's just knock motherfuckers. Those videos are what twenty years old. I wouldn't say twenty twenty tenure. So he was like fifteen right. Yeah I remember those kimball videos from the longtime. That's what I'm saying. Yeah like dial up but but this is why he was fighting the ones when after Kimba wasn't fighting anymore go back and put on the fight referee. Cambodia's thirty four. He's that's I mean. I feel like that's pretty. It's pretty over fighter but experienced knowledgeable ready to throw these ads. They're always old old who fighters probably by the time. You see him running for it. Yeah it takes years ago some of them not an easy life now in that training is the worst. I don't that's a different human man. They would they were meant to be gladiators. Look back in the day. The gladiator curse lytle is still doing that training. Yeah asking how sick are you. Bali don't accidentally blew up on Chris. Lytle you will fucking catch a fifty piece before you even say what's going on. It's so weird that do walking around some due to into southport high school in Indianapolis one of the Battisti's on the planet the toughest guy. 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Oh yeah there's like a dog that was at a shelter there an animal shelter and they had a baby Cheetah Cheetah that was the only survivor of its family in the Cheetah and the dog of become friends. And they're like so who cheated the era and stuff like that but all it's going to take what is one little little rough up in one right. Hook Cheetah Stockton slap. Oh Yeah Right. Yeah because you know how your dog's like one I'll just get pissed and snap at the other one real quick cheated us like any takes your throat. Yeah sues it up in my head though I it will pick up the dog qualities and forget it's cheaper qualities. I think until ears so so right now he just thinks it's true. The Cheetah thinks it's just a different shaped one. Yeah Yeah I mean that. They said it's my cat's meow. Because humans make noise data Cata Zito. Pigs will bark like a dog if they're around other dogs out today. What do you mean they? Just don't sweat so other so fat I guess looking back. 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It is going to take quite a bit of time to and fucking what's up. What's a stroke? Thus what's going. What goes on there I like? She put her finger out in front of my eyes and I just had to follow it and then she put her arms on my shoulders they touched for Dui seriously joke joke fiscal basically those my old job a sport that They would do a video conference. The DOC would sit there at a computer all doctors again lazy. Well Yeah and the patient would sit there on the other end and they make you fall their finger. It's really interesting. Got Some blood work. Done still haven't heard back on that so you know it's Kinda just a waiting game and then you know what's great is if you do want to make an appointment elsewhere you gotta pay right at the time and I don't really know what I'm GonNa get or anything like that so this lady was like okay. Well since you are self pay it's going to be fifteen hundred dollars to run. That right now is like well. I'm not fucking weird kind of a little bit of a conundrum. I'd say I'm nervous. We're not having on a plane. No last week I was fine. We went to New York so it was literally that that plane that we had never been before and for whatever reason I think like the cabin pressure sure was different and had to do something with like my thought. There's probably a leak in the plane. I don't know because I haven't had that issue on any other. Flights faces like a canary in the tunnels. All right we're GONNA pressure pressure provident. A Cabinet UH racy give the fucking mass broadly face it. Why why would that happen though? Like something that means. Something probably had to be bad right not good well no because I told him to. My left ear never hurts when we fly or anything and it doesn't not really pop. It's fine but my right ear. Like fucking kill sometimes for whatever reason so I think there's just something wonky on up there that's scary and then crazy to sell sudden done some stupid like it happens. Jesus Christ it was CIA and I was trying to like spit. And I literally couldn't spitting all over my sweatshirt because I couldn't drink I go to take a drink of water and it would just run all down my face and like it was pretty fucked up but it went away like you know after fifteen minutes or so so I mean it has to be somebody listening some sort of knowledge. What is big knowledge fucking armchair doctors Out there too though who big. Oh actually a though and you can get me in stat. That'd be awesome insurance though because what you after. I got a clean bill hill. Don't drink tobacco. Nothing like Memphis. Pretty good city yeah. It's out of it. You Know Memphis is pretty great. I mean I didn't I didn't get it if I would have much rather have my throat slashed and not be able to use the right side of my face. Jason was incredible it looked. Was it a much better experience. The second time I think all of Memphis was there. It was awesome. They left the bars. I think. Open all night so people got in their very early when they do on streets like that like instead of most of the time they on campus. It's like some big open grass. I watched that one. And then the last year they went to North Dakota instead of South Dakota Fargo. Yeah and it was right on the street like that always very very cool so does college game day ever ever have like Shit. Go down in the crowd like cops after his around. It's a very positive environment. It's like a festival it's like a party. Everybody is very positive. And even the fans of the other team and they're getting treated pretty good by the saloon like afraid to fuck it up because I'll never get college game day back probably. It's a festival that comes to town. It's awesome it's it's a very very this gets utilized. It isn't electric advisory is fucking awesome is this is kind of weird to think about because there's always at one group the fucks up with everybody that that's never people normally though this calcium fire people normally. Aren't that angry that early in the day. No it has nothing to do angry agree. That group of guys is always like I'm going to be the center of attention right now. Also your phone big schools like the people who are really going hard tailgate and getting fucked looked up like they're doing that at their own tailgates. They're not taking time out of their day to go. Stand it because they don't let me. I don't think you can have open containers there anymore. Can you have no idea. Because it's like sponsored by coke coke now and stuff like that. I don't think it it's like it used to be where you could you know. Theoretically going there just bombed also banned affliction shirt. So that's the first step. I avoiding the police being called for sure pretty early to Newburgh. Yeah if you if you really want to get a good despite you gotta be there. What like five? Am Yeah four thirty four. Yeah let's crack. Don It was early man. There was some people that ready to go. Though it was awesome. I mean it was awesome. Probably can't get much better than having it right smack in the Middle Bill Street. I don't like Nashville. The draft draft Bourbon Street would be like those three places. Probably the only thing about Bourbon Those you don't know if it's his fans in the school right like trainers in New Orleans ever gets good. They could go there but it seemed like there was a Lotta Tiger fans there. It was really really cool. It was hard to get from one place to the other though so like the Octagon John where I did a penny hardaway thing was like half a block up. You got their stores right through bars. Yeah back alleys and then through bars and then we're out the other side because getting through the people as just like a It was it was like he's caused. It was like ace Ventura bouncing cool like just like you see people. Everybody was positive. That's the thing early in the morning. I think they keep the music. Positive is a lot of good stuff so I think it can be lost yet exactly. Everybody's it's got hope. ENTER SPAM leaser too. It's both it's a mixture on. Yeah it's an awesome. I can't believe I'm invited to that stuff. Those awesome the Penny Hardaway interview. They gave me zero guidance on what I can and can't talk about nothing. There's go ahead your stay here. You got another segment right up here in in Five minutes under like you're interviewing penny. Hardaway I was like Manny Story. He's then he playing blue chips. Oh Yeah Yeah. Let's McRae cool by. I said to him. I said you've had a barber shop here. He's like seven years now like item. Ask You about that and then you can do your thing. He's like I'll get to people going aren't my man. That's what we're looking forward. Manny is a very good basketball player. He was good speaker too man he did very well in the little penny series was sprite was stuff about. He was good when he wanted a bit like. I like big like overly tall point guys. Yeah compared compared him to like magic. Johnson Yeah you just got. He was hurt right and if it turns around that team he's going to be. I mean I know the king from the king of them as you should be at school. Everyone's very nice to us. Thank you for that I I acquired the the travel flu flu. I believe is bound to happen. I'M GONNA go check emergency. Even though Nick told me it was a placebo stopped. Working your body. We can only absorb vitamin C.. So it's better than nothing not gonNA hurt. You know that and I it does seem like it works for me. It worked for me the DAYQUIL. That's what I used earlier this Sharon. 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Yes I believe damage. WHO ELSE IS IT I? I saw the commercial the show guy from hot tub time machine Guy Guy. So let's get people in one of the girls in. It's really good too but I don't see how anything's CBS. The writing just always socks corneas ship. Engineers Watch criminal minds. There hasn't been a good show on. CBS since the mental EST wanted by the way. What show is Patrick? Jade it can make keyboard to say married with children but not married with children per family wasn't of interest. ABC ABC be so modern family made it. CVS is one of the better shows of all time. Just not you talk about Asia aired Hoffner yet. That wasn't worth shit wants Mandy Patinkin left. Yeah you're right you're right. They tried to replace him with that bag of bones. Rossi or Joe Montanier Montaigne you. That guy fucking stinks like greatest. CBS shows of all time. Please okay NCIS. Yeah which. Which one do you offer them? A Wife I five I love Lucy survivor. 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People I think Martin Lawrence Eddie Murphy Sidekick and I mean Yeah both both. We're sidekicks Danny Murphy. Right yeah so those two guys would not have a career. I don't think if it was for eighty Murphy Hall a good standup Ah Martin. Lawrence stand up is actually pretty fucking. He was pretty good. TV Show Martin back in the day street because it can happen. No no Arsenio definitely career your thank you you say it every time that we were movie instead of you. Don't ask for the name I don't know if it's because of you but I I can't even see will Smith's face face. Now without getting a infuriate he got in really good shape for that movie. Yeah not areas that out of shape but he looks looks exact. Same these ever been the looked fast like fifty five years old. Medics a Does anyone miss senior. We go over under fifty five todd over definitely going over fifty. I'm going under fifty five. Gabby fresh fruits on he was like twenty something children usually one pretty good. 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Some say killing pro quarterback to it was really a quarterback go with quarterback quarterback. He's basically a navy seal. I mean this point then through all the training. He's a Kung Fu expert. Yeah 'cause the Matrix the forty forty years he spent making those. Yeah all. These points are leaning towards like he could have someone else are they making a sequel to the Matrix two. Aren't they really excel please. I think that was so now. He's awesome I will say this. Thank you will Smith for turning down Corolla Matrix. That is the one positive thing he's done for us lately. Aw Yeah I'll even admit it wouldn't have been there'd be no need to make a second one if it was will but he would be pushing short. Oh they still it. Don't get me wrong. There would have been seven of them probably but yeah no one else can play that role. I don't think no way nobody kinky weird all those movies you look at. You can't imagine anybody else play like imagining by Harrison Ford playing on Solo back in the day William but they had like twenty great actors actors on his jacket. See Tom Cruise Plan Matrix really. Yep Ninety two short I think he's too I don't know he's too like What do you call it? Weird to stereotypically the hero type guy to save your he has no vulnerability But then you watch like something like collateral he was really gawking. Incredible and collateral. The new Matrix is apparently rumored to be focused on a young morpheus. It's got Michael B Jordan. So it's not going to be anything that's going to change so story or anything like before the matrix equal. Ah Prefix Matrix call. It the prefix book that I'll say for sure Kudos crispy Kareem. They're all over that. Dude you sit. They basically going to cancel that guy. He was a college student and Minnesota and he came up with his his own little side Hustle while he was in college where he would trip to. Because you know short drive over to Ottawa to go to the store in Iowa crispy cream store and he will load up his car with Fox's Fox's crispy creams and we go back to the twin cities and he basically like he's door dash thing people were with him now and you know crispy cream a UH stop selling a lot of areas. Yeah so but they're still stores in Iowa. Yes good for Iowa by the way those care what you say it was the best God damn right so give FRY crispy cream. But then I guess they finally they. I just got the fucking destroyed by people who are killing this college kids side. I saw like. Oh Yeah. We're GONNA lame do it. So he's like the only like reseller Zeller making good money. I mean if he's driving all over the place you'd be must be bringing in some sort of change you know you have it if he's driving. I'm from Minnesota to Iowa to get it and if he's going back to the twin cities I mean that's not crazy. That's still like an hour drive. You're chewing up gas doing that. He's got to be turning in a prophet maybe day trip. You're talking two hundred bucks a day. Maybe maybe how many boxes is he getting. I'm picturing hundred boxes but I can't really picture was like a station wagon with maybe eighty bucks back station wagons Goslin uh-huh what's what's what's a twenty four points. A dozen donuts. Three Ninety nine surcharge lays twenty Claes near we talking just regular glazed or people paying top dollar Minnesota for this has traveled with this heat around all to keep them warm to go see. That's why. Seat warmers though not a station wagon. I would put some sun lamps in their recent. It doesn't of original glazed crispy cream typically costs around eight dollars. Yeah so yes we sell the book. Eighteen or twenty has to be twenty four with these fifteen. You got double. Yeah or can you go dollar donut. See I think you can get by with a dollar. Don't good margins urgence. Cheaper though right got eighty bucks four hours of boxes making. What's Emma? Jeez I'm Ben with twenty dollars a day. That's not a bad little archway dollars. A day guys fulltime job for him to drop out of school. He's good deal. DONUTS Majali Engineering Program to make it three twenty a day. But if he's doing it I got an idea. Three sixty five three hundred sixty five days a year. He's making one hundred hundred sixteen thousand dollars not bad for re-selling donuts firetrucks. Can he go to someone's dead. You missed it. The other last episode a the war was going artillery barrage get shelled artillery outlawed blank artillery rounds. Right next door. Some v some Veterans Day. A celebration thing or whatever. And then they're doing flyovers jets awesome fucking call of duty soundtrack. Get to the job. Say the pope is going to have to stop doing their thing. Get stabbed the dies on nationals else. Spicy Chicken Day chicken sandwich so we can't have nice things. Yeah all I've been seeing those people whip in the crap out of each other so chicken sandwiches I haven't had on you so I think Knicks the on the Tad easy. Good I someone cut line the Diet. Got fucking shanked. Yeah you can't do that. You're on the wrong neighborhood. I mean what do you think in which is every Popeye's it'll put them in in good neighborhoods fall on eye for an eye you cut in line you get cut cut cut shit up who's willing Jail for the rest of their life for a fucking four dollars way where the they melt in your mouth. Still don't care. Everyone says that author everyone. I've asked the better than Chick-fil-a chick-fil-a but chick-fil-a was never threatened. Now back on the throne grown. They're gonNA start killing each other to wait it out. No I mean like there's entire. I've seen this not exaggeration. Eighteen videos of people behind the counter fighting Popeye's employees. Yeah Yeah I've seen employees employees fighting other employees. Everyone I I saw riot shields at one point and then there was like two different instances of someone driving the car to the side of a pop up loading up and taking off fucking cracked. It jeeze put crack but it's it's also every race. It's like every there's been videos of every race of people every walk of life people just beaten the absolutely yeah definitely not culturally culturally specific thing. Now it's crazy so we'd like the it's almost like the old I don't know that happens much anymore. But they'll black Friday days of sales and like with the cabbage patch. Staw- I came out and there'd be the videos with the MOMS beating the fuck out of each other walmarts. Exactly say any exclusively to anything people lose their fucking mind but there isn't exclusively with the now they they brought it back forever right or they're supposed to be aired out. Yeah didn't WanNa lose the FAD whether we rolling release six in the Church of something shirts five at a time. ASK BE RANDOM when they come out of the you got a fabric black Friday. Have you guys been any of the Walmart's around here recently. They've all been putting up like turnstiles. So they're corralling people at the entrances or as I should start getting ready for down the doors anymore pop over that or if I know shoppers they will get past that. It's like a New York subway. Oh boy things like easily if you just put a little bit fuck tapping your step. You're going right over. Three hundred there are still people and it's not even just old people they're still like it's a hipster kind of thing where there's people that will still put stuff in layaway mostly boomer so mostly boomers but even so much like if you talk to people at Walmart. There's a whole hipster movement on layaway like they've got a second life of late with they had done away with for a while and then the younger generation and came out and made this trendy little thing and so they started doing it again. I mean my whole life work our credit cards based on. Just say no stores stores actually have layaway besides like K.. Mart right I think Walmart actually brought back layaway. Can you explain what it is because I bet you know idea what what the grill as where you put a little bit of money down and they hold the item in the back for you and then you come back more toward Christmas time or whenever it is and you buy pay the rest of the amount so this was eighty table of my childhood. Because you you'd go into the aisles like hills or aims Dr early stores that don't exist anymore and he'd want the latest teenage mutant turtle figure or whatever. It was like well wrongly away and if you're a month or two cold there's a real thing you know parents actually putting layaway and just never like it's announce kind of pre- pre purchasing and preserving same. Do the movies the video store in the store. You could leave with it. You WanNa do. It's weird it's a weird concept. I don't know no why it's still alive. It makes no sense to me but I also don't know why hipsters are into other things. Yeah it makes sense before like everyone had a credit card But nowadays is I don't see the useful. Yeah no and I don't still know why people are going to stores. I mean that's very cyber. Monday is coming around. What are you thinking? Black Friday is built for it. Just the cheapest fuckers on the planet and also like families who can't stand each other anymore and need to get the fuck out of the house was the only two subsets of people that come out on black Friday. You're right I mean if you're physically going to store to your Christmas shopping I probably don't want to know you a lot of times. It's like like it's not like crazy deals. You think it's like Oh this. TV is twenty dollars off today. It's a hot ticket item. And all these fucking Bozos. I was just flooding there. Like it's you know the holy grail morons off. Yeah Fuck you God Damn uh-huh That's one thing I've never bought online is a TV. I don't know I got to see store. Yeah I think I wanNA turn it on. I don't WanNa go through this year because all the specs are always the exact same and it's interesting. Why is this Samsung One? Nine hundred dollars more than this high sense one but they do all the same things. Sting like the exact same technology and sometimes like the cheaper looked better. It just physically looked better when it's in the SNORE. So I I don't I don't buy those online. They also like I know best buy A. They would use to do like if they were really trying to get rid of like certain. TV's IT boost up the brightness and then turn it down a bunch of TV's next to it so it's like I mean you can see you can see the picture on this one. It's cheaper but it looks a lot better like you know. I mean they definitely got me. Yeah exactly just explained the constituent for but looks amazing. Hey they've gotten me black and white but then they would. Do you know they do that on the inverse to six thousand dollars. TV they'll put it next one. That's like twenty five hundred same thing. They put the program on that. You'll never be able to get home ever and you see this thing I is done your Christmas shopping. Start this early. Oh I don't think I've ever actually done Christmas around billiard where you don't like your finally starting to get into the point now where you actually have exactly. I'm in the transition phase but I've never done it and I know you say I have to do it. I don't really plan on doing so. I if I get you gifts you know. That's just one gift I could've got for myself. What do we now I get it? I get Christmas auto giving but you know if someone who watches the Tim and Eric Awesome show. I also celebrate Christmas. Christmas is all about receiving. So you know. It's a different holiday but same concept. 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I don't get us anything but then I feel like that's why I never do it too. I WANNA leave anybody out to you. Leave everybody up. Yeah exactly the same better. Do that coach always gets a case of coors light every single. Yes it's a good one and then whatever for yeah some work for the gallery start shopping until probably like December twelve just like Amazon. It's probably the week of now that we got as long as I can still see that it will come in by December twenty second or third. I that's that's why it's like watching your gas gas gauge last year. Todd bought me like three or four things that never came in. Never got to the fucking house. It's Christmas he's like stop at Walmart. I got picked up a couple of games. What was that What a backpack in jacket? Yeah totally ripped off. Where did you buy it from you? Know what's the military's five one or whatever it is five eleven five. Yeah fucking never got it. You know. He's not in high school anymore. Getting a backpack and a Jack Navy seal back grown ass man. Hey they do have good jackets. Oh yeah that's the way. It's a good tactical store and it's it's possible. Maybe I've tried to get some five eleven gear on Maybe a site it was Japanese. That's possible to saving. Never do that. Again I bought myself Christmas. Basically I think last night old skier got on there. So I'm just gonNa tell Marnie you can just been moment for that. Christmas is spent like two hundred bucks sell. I don't know I was looking at. It was just like Oh look at one. I was going to get one Colt. Getting new call center like my other cults and allies on there and like. Oh Fuck Look Hoodie. This look at that site before I know him. Two hundred dollars deep fifteen percent though right now coming a couple of back games and the whole site goes on sale right loose. The steelers once steelers every year always yup all as and it's usually and asking to usually we start. Yeah even we've had good teams and we played them. We get our asses nice his moral victory though you played hard. I'll come on. Are you got hurt defending taught we heard it all best quarterback the guys were only without Rothlisberger Pittsburgh's defense. It's it's really impressive. Really pro football man. That's a new curtain. Was that curtain. Yeah yeah that's Russia still steelers still off similar steel missiles just questions. We'll be listener question. Yup good wants to bomb talk shit pieces on the ground. Signed up to explain what Jeff One zero bought a grenade in Texas and it plays music when you pull pin boogie by. They had already started. Okay this is a good time to point out. We're back on Youtube if you want to see that wholesale real realistic questions you guys within a great job of that continued to d m them to the heartland radio counts either in twitter or instagram. Tell people to follow the instagram couch. Trying to get that back up to where it was before we lost the account Not Not next fault. Rex Chapman fall started a trend. Damn Iraq's somehow always get in trouble Walked let's see instance really remember. There are no stupid questions just stupid you but people excuse me I like to as you a few questions you want answers. I think I'm entitled to prove you can't handle the a true plus number one digs tied. This comes from Smiley fifty two. I might do to how the I and Smiley is. Actually actually one change. I don't know if I did What is your favorite redneck slaying slash analogy mine line? As an example. He was shaking worse than a Gerbil in a key. West pet store. Yeah never heard that. That's a rider. My my favorite one though is the dumber than two French horns fucking a garden. Mouse is a good one. That's yours or that was his. That's yours that's a real good. I'M GONNA use it against dumber than two French horns fucking guard mouse. Definitely using that. It made up myself the PEOP- you made that up. Jeez that's a good one. What is the most ridiculous thing but I can say right now? That's what they doing the southway but they're they're almost like Poets Man Weddig the way they came up with these go with enjoy the hotter and goats ass in pepper patch. Go to scratch my back with a hacksaw I like I'm happier than a pig in shit. That's a good one. Yeah I don't really have one. I haven't hung around too many rednecks. I do when people say I should have. Did that or should have done. Did that out. Just when you kind of sound like a Moron you have tenuous grasp ah shade or get off the pot because you know that that stemmed from like Kentucky family had about eight kids screaming each other all the time and now it's worked its way into culture. You get off then. He used to work at the office. Is Kid working offices. Zita ed the Cable Guy. I like it you may be read. I think my favorite one is He got enough money to burn a wet meal like that one. I don't know why. Let us special. They don't understand like how money works. You know what it is to have a lot of money enough money. Burn away meal the most money ever have I. I do like the Bush Bush your heart. Have you heard that. Aw that's the most. It's the best southern expression ever because it can be used in two different ways. Like if I give if I do something really sweet like like I give your Mama Gift. She's a southern lady. She'd like Oh bless your heart and they also like if you have something wrong with you say something zito. Hello Hello Oh bless your heart. You know what I mean. You can't help yourself burgers. I guess is is Bagger. Dadgum it yeah. That's mine anytime you hear some old southern Fried Hick say okay. Well that's usually pretty good. Bless your heart a lot. Yeah that's a good Catholic. It's real awesome. I have one more than my buddy. I used to work with. All the time and ex partners he would always say Yeah he's slower pawn water. Yeah of course number two course ever to this comes from Kurt. Dot are one Kurt. Fewer part of a special OPS team of four like the one who took out the leader of Isis. He died like a dog. Ah What actor athletes and historic figure would be on your team. This is a good question. The character question my actors Mark Wahlberg who pick My athlete is Ryan Fitzpatrick. Smart Smart and a great beard because you need a great beard. If you're going to be on a special OPS could also be shot a thousand times die correct absolutely and then my Historical figure Leif Eriksson. Oh I was GONNA go Magellan but leaf is basically Magellan Gelin but with a beard. Yeah not bad. I think I don't know if leave. Erickson had a beard or not but it seems like he said he was a viking. That's always go with person team is pretty. That's pretty red one because you can't tell if they have blood on their bearded. I'll go stoorikhel figure. I had to go. Abe Lincoln Vampire Hunter. Of course obviously roasts go ahead fight any presence of the athlete Jeannie Bouchard Beautiful female tennis player. She would be smacking grenades around like tennis balls and then just figure for her INC tennis playing into AH strike. Are you talking about rocket short. He was he was good but And then Zillow one actor actor Walton Gardens. Aw Surly for comedic relief keep things loose you know because those are relations love. I could see him going anywhere. Oh Yeah I could see him. Going out there as a distraction with a a piece of lettuce his asshole. I know that was not him. That did that so it would be that by the way MMA gruber one of the best comedy of all time boss. Yeah for actor. I'm going vin diesel. He's driving the shipping. I'll be real here For the athlete I'm going Kendrick Perkins a much larger figure. NBA used to play for the Celtics. You know for some reason whenever I think Kendrick Perkins I think back Alley. You're in a brawl with a couple of people you need one guy. Perk comes to mind okay And then lastly historical figure Theodore Roosevelt on the rough riders a sword and just watch him go to work walk. Are you worried about the sun off of Franklin vins head no because I figure my especially obscene mobile twinkle in the desert. It's been we work in the night. We work in the Nicer Flashbang angles at the right way. Blinds Everyone Z.. The city the decision Jerry just as motivational krispies across. You put those spikes on the role pushing title. Paul Giamati is actor. He will leave. Levi's bandelier with CIA on it could stay hydrated and not stressed out. Historical figure with the Polian short. Little Fucker was pretty good until the battle of Waterloo ruthless to get a chip on his show. And if we need someone to sacrifice guess what we'll send them out there and you just lobbing grenades light mortars miles were. Actually that would be my job. I would just like seventy five. NASA's attached to my watching those left and right don't need a gun a grenade with a baseball bat. You'd be fine just asking for a friend friend a grenade with a baseball bat so pull the pull the pin. Throw it up like you're hitting BP hope you hit it the first time a little actually happens opens in the punisher with Thomas. Jane Wright does all big Jane. Yea Kevin Nash actually throw them into a bathroom and tossed a grenade. Mary hits it with a baseball fallback back into the bathroom. Greater one of the better greater one of the better fight scenes and I agree for sure. Watch hung yes great show. That was a great series. I forgot all about then. That was really good. That's what we're talking about Tom. She also had a big Dick Gigolo. Yeah stick Bailey. I'm GONNA take John. Kuczynski is my Intel man on the ground you're incur currently watching started watching Jack Ryan. I'm I'm going to have Christian. McCaffrey as point. Man Get a storm in rooms as run through people pick. And then I'm GONNA have. William Wallace is Mike Off Strong strong leader of men Willie Wall so real guy dude. Strong Wall Scott's got some free documentary can shot thunderbolts out of his Arse student realizes documentary Zita. Yup Mine I have Genghis Genghis Khan Bruce Lee and Jackie Robinson those are legendary picks It should be noted for the people that aren't watching on Youtube that you have that written down on the sticky side side of duct tape paper over here and my water bottle Iran Room. My water bottle right outside side. So Bruce Lee is is your actor. Genghis Khan is the historical figure in the Jackie Robinson. Sport Guy Sports Guy and then I was thinking about the grenade thing with the bat because yeah I like very good strategy weapon. I'll probably this chef hotdogs up up guys it's GonNa be a tough. Here's a fucking guy in Black Hawk. Down has always making the coffee zito's dream job. Is that White House chef that went viral around a year ago it was just combat. Half my act is going to be counter reeves. Because he basically is a navy. Seal backups Donnie. Wahlberg way rather have him Mister obviously Athletes going to be Aaron Rodgers. Strictly for throwing grenades and my figure is going to be Spartacus. ooh It's pretty close close combat situations. We're going to Sparta kissing his sorties. Mace thing that he swings around undefeated. And I'm probably GONNA I think I'm going to have a fifty caliber sniper rifle into Colt. Forty five skull play with him for the kill elephants. Tuck all came into the office a couple of days ago and told us what it was like to actually throw a rail like military issue grenade and now the entire office has been infatuated by it for three or four. We all you can get the ones that they take the core out in the same way literally almost the same way we should get those and have a grenade throwing contest throwing out here and Soohoo dive on it. I would probably would if anyone in this room where to do it. Come on see. I think it'd be the only one that could handle the blast. Oh I'm ten pounds of it's not that bad it's spicy spicy question number. Three third and final from Ryan Log. Ary Oh the baby rhinos donohoe you said it last bright law-free love three. So you buddy. So it's not long. Maybe Change Your Life if you're a billionaire and got to create the next. NFL expansion team. What city are you putting it in? What's the mascot God of the team? And who is your franchise quarterback who also love this question. Okay forget the pit quarterback you guys go. I'll go so you off A Moon A team up Toronto. Feel like it's time candidate serves a professional. NFL football team. They're going to be based off a former mayor. Rob Ford. They're going to call Toronto base. Their mascot is going to be a pudgy. Cracked out man in a suit and quarterbacks can be Marcus Vick all as big nick Big Correcting my team is going to be in Sioux Falls Believe at South Dakota. Ah North Dakota South Dakota. They're going to be spotted. Cows and my franchise quarterback is going to be duck. Hodges because he just you know he just fits it up there I mean he. He likes glove he will be out. They're hunting ducks after practice. Every single day he'll just be one of the people of that city the spotted cow. What is so very popular beer in Wisconsin taught you picked so good luck getting that pass then who? I didn't know that the toy I didn't want them to be just a house so I figured I enjoy the spotted cow versus the the other type of cows. They're prettier. They are pretty slim with great danes like the spot opens better yeah majestic royalty actually. Yeah they are. They're up the dogs. Roy like the general in the Patriot Cornwallis General Cornwallis Jupiter Mars. Not a winner. But oh I think one was pluto. Pull Nick might have employed but they were definitely naming planets planets Pluto's no longer planet so stupid point letting people are stupid that Connor. Yeah I'm moving my NFL expansion team to Dublin Dublin. I WanNa talk about London up. I think the failed in Ireland might appreciate a little more The masculine going to be the demon or for the Dublin Demons. Yeah But Yeah I figure I'd sneak putting decoupertain we're you know fucked deacons and then My Franchise Sub Zion Williamson. He makes switch baby. He's coming over to play for the demons. He's throwing out these throwaways basketball shoes. Trade him in for a little cleats. And Yeah we're GONNA win the Nfl Championship play two games a year before breaks tie what about you the Des Moines detached lers Beautiful City Beautiful City the task. I mean that'd be that'd be a pretty good look I watched it one time and I saw Zero where the task on his nipples you not tassell. And then for the franchise quarterback whoever's available we're going to reach out to both Steve Beuerlein and Jake the whoever we can get whoever awake you there too well. He might be the coach the area but I got the bad asses. Lee Montana are mask going to have to be cartoon render of John Rambo ooh and then the franchise he's going to be evil knievel butte resident. He's going to be jumping over lines with a motorcycle. I still think that's in the rule book. Well well things are going to be different than isn't he dead. Well the reanimated corporate ladder dig up his body. Stick him on a bike. The speaking of quarterbacks Zt whoa ought not always but I'm going to have to pick Cuba team team name slash mascot will be the cigars after the win. They'll go close but no

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"Listen up fellas DAX cells built for big and tall guys. Okay. Which means they've got closed built for style built for comfort and festival. Bill, three you get this DSL spent years developing their own sizing patterns, to deliver a great fit every time and every size. And with over one hundred brands DSL, have you looked in great? So head to excel dot com, and check out a store near you, d excel big and tall built three you at DSL dot com. These baseball tonight the podcast. This is the baseball tonight podcast for Friday may twenty four two thousand nineteen BUSTER only producer day is Josh macaroni, Josh, you and I have some business to settle. I agree with you BUSTER. Let's get to it, please. All right. So earlier in may. I made a statement that the Milwaukee Bucks would win the NBA championship. You said the Golden State Warriors are win the championship. Now, let's face it doesn't look good for the box adults. They lost game five last night to the Toronto Raptors but we never really settled on a couple of things one what happens if the raptors advanced and the bucks, don't advance and then the warriors beat the raptors what is the result of that, because I think our that was implied that it was more of, of warriors versus raptors. Here's the other question. Now, if the raptors advance and the bucks are not out, and then the warriors lose to the raptors who wins. That, that I asked this really is a series open question. How do we resolve those things? Well, logic would suggest BUSTER, that if you're bucks, don't even make the finals that I win the bet now because I'm a good person and because I liked to do things fairly alcohol you that regardless of the Eastern Conference opponent. The warriors will still have to win now. I'm not telling you that, if the raptors end up beating the warriors that you suddenly have won the bet because you have not. But I'm yeah. But I'm still saying that the warriors will win the title, regardless of opponent. But once the bucks lose to the raptors in either game six or game seven which they will you are eliminated from contention. I'm eliminated from the possibility of winning rides what you're telling correct. But the warriors have to win the title in order to for you to win the bat that is accurate. Okay. And we need. Folks on Twitter to weigh in on this question. What, what is the all the Gatien, and I'm asking this question, earnestly, I'm not trying to get out of it. I basically want to take some direction and Josh you and I agreed on the Milwaukee Brewers cap being a payoff for you. If in fact, the warriors were to win the title, did you see the picture of the London Yankee Red Sox hats? I did. And I think they are glorious looking BUSTER. I think they look really are you going to you're going to have one of those caps, maybe replace the brewers cap or what? Well, no. I, I don't want I already have a brewers hat. I, I don't need a brewers hat. Okay. But yeah, I would certainly take one of those Union Jack Red Sox ads. Yeah. Those are those are sweet. They really I emailed you last night saying, I don't wear Yankees. Red sock cap. I never have since I was a kid. I hated the Yankees as a kid because they beat up on my dodgers in the World Series. And just, you know, the whole Red Sox Yankees vortex. You wanna stay out of that. I don't have a Yankees cap. I don't have a Red Sox cap. Those ones are sweet. They really Don. Seriously thinking about getting those go over to know they really are. And obviously, it's been established on the podcast that I am a Red Sox fan. So I wouldn't wear the Yankees version. But I must say, yeah, I think the Yankees one actually looks better. I think it looks more balanced with the Union Jack in the interlocking N Y. Okay. Would you ask your wife to wear? No. What would you think about your wife, wearing it? I would hate it. I think possibly could be grounds for divorce. Maybe even deployed. Well, we don't want to go down that road. Oh my goodness. All right. Let's gives us a baseball. Let's start with this. Look as g Lido he was the man against the Astros. Two and two. G Alito Lucas has strike out number nine and he's one out away from a complete game. Shutout April fifteenth two thousand sixteen as the last socks complete game shutout. This is in the air, third base side on Cada is underneath and doughnuts on Lucas four nothing. Socks complete game shutout but transformed Lucas jail Lido that voice, of course, Jason Bonetti, NBC sports, Chicago man, a Yuqin shut out the Houston Astros. Would with way that they're rolling that tells you something, by the way, Lucas, g Lido a high school teammate of max freed and Jack flaring of the Saint Louis cardinals. I know this because we got Jack Flaherty on Sunday night baseball when the Atlanta Braves and max. Face off against declaration, the cardinals just to be clear, max rate is not going to pitch. But that, that school those three guys were high school teammates out in California, the Phillies played the cubs and early JT real Mutel got everybody's attention. It'll be struck out his first time that one to well Dato left field for Caterpillar. To the trees water, shut by Jake's real Mutoko, other Phillies, take a four nothing lead on the way to a nine seven victory that the voice of Tom McCarthy on NBC sports, Philadelphia, the raised Indians, one of the most exciting plays in baseball happened in this game two one swing and a fly ball of the cabin. Let's center-field Jason his Martine, and they can't get him or keto come together. And they are down the ball skiffs away to let field care, my around second. He's his way to third. He's gonna be Wave Home. It's going to be an inside the park over a three run Homer and the raise of a six nothing lead. Yeah. From day will six twenty w DA the twins play the angels and the twins. Did what they always do. And that is hit a lot of home runs. Matt Harvey was on the mound early for the angels at second Beguel at Peru's one nothing twins. One out top two and the pitch of last to let feel deep Beckett goes deep it goes gone long. Home run for Jonathon snow, way up into the seats in left travel beyond bold bullpens, and it's wins handled four nothing lead in the second grade. Provost Treasure Island baseball network and the twins just kept on getting home runs even after Matt Harvey was out of the game. Swinging to blast in the center field. That's it. Well goodwin. Going back good. When racing at the wall that is gone. And it's wins Homer again any resort to the trees to the right of dead center field. Fifteen to, to the eight home. Run the eighth home run. That's wins if it today as Eddie homers for the fourteenth time as I may eight final score. They're sixteen to seven after the game, Matt Harvey with a seven point five year a talked about his performance probably one of my worst innings ever. One of my worst starts ever. You know it's, it's frustrating and there's. A lot of this team. And, and the organization is one me to do. And I just haven't been able to do that. And especially today, that was those pretty embarrassing for me. So it was it was a rough one. We'll be talking about Matt Harvey coming up, and what his future looks like the Marlins playing the Tigers in my goodness, right now with the Marlins, you can't stop them. You can only hope to contain them. Here's the pitch. Swing here and a ball drill down that left field line is this, fair or foul, it is going to be up up and away. It is a grand slam for Cooper. How about this show the Marlins put on here in the ninth inning? Dave an hor nine forty WINZ the Marlins win five to two Josh a sentence. I never thought it would have uttered in two thousand nineteen the Marlins have won six straight games. I'll be curious to see where they land in next week's power ten BUSTER, man. They have a chance to pass the nationals in the nationally standings this weekend. Speaking of the National League as the Mets and the nationals play the final game of their four game set on Thursday before the game. The Mets announced the UN assess what is had surgery. He's likely out for the season he broke his ankle in incident that the Mets haven't fully described yet. The Mets also lost Robinson canot to a quad injury. Jeff McNeil to a hamstring injury. They're both on the injured list. Now is this game played out the national head the leads, and then the nationals bullpen came into play? And this happened, here's the pitch. Swing and a drive deep to left center going back a way back. Do you like that? Scopus goes, Steve and the midst with four eight fitting magic have taken a six to four lead. And they win this game six two four how he rose on WCBS. They sweep before game series. We'll be talking about the future of Dave Martinez. The nationals manager coming up with Carl Ravitch the Yankees played the Orioles game as a back and forth affair. The Zadie lead the Orioles came back, and then in the night dinning, the keys loaded the bases because Michael Gibbons the best reliever in the Orioles, have lost the plate and this pick. The Yankees take the lead six to five. And they would win six to five that Ken singleton on the yes network Satterfield team. The day. The game of the day was out in San Francisco. The Atlanta Braves playing the San Francisco, Giants and Austin Riley has greatly improved the Braves since he was called up from the minor leagues about ten days ago, spend doing it. Well in the field and left field. Not his natural position. This one's off his knuckles into left. Riley still come looking for help diving try and he came up with what a catch by Riley, scooped it off the turf that was chip. Gary Fox Sports southeast. The Braves are losing forty two top of the eighth inning. Who's at the plate that guy. Austin riley. Hi fly. Ball launch deep lifts centerfield Riley has taken a deep. Love home run for Riley. That again ship Carey so is four two four. The two teams played in extra innings. This is what happened in the top of the thirteenth, use the to pitch to Riley line base. Right field line chasing it down as the quarter into scores swamps in and the drought has ended on a rocket down the right field line by Austin, Riley. What a to strike approach with, with the pitch barreled and got the Braves in front five to four. The thirteenth Jim pal. Six eighty the fan, the life of Reilly continues, he has transformed the Atlanta lineup. He's been terrific as mentioned. We're going to be doing a lot with the Braves on Sunday baseball. When they play the Saint Louis cardinals talking a lot about Austin, Riley, who after that great performance on Thursday, spoke with Fox Sports, south. Means a lot. I mean you know to, to do that, especially with, you know, some of the, the Braves have come through here, Chipper Jones, all those guys, you know, it just, you know, special, and, you know, tribes soak it all in face them, two nights ago. I believe and started me out. I think it went three sliders in a row. Then come back with the fast ball. I just told myself, you know, not going to be laid on the fast ball, you got down to found off a slider. And then, you know, was able to catch up ninety seven in, you know got you know, I was telling myself because I was sitting on a pitch. I was I even backed off the plane, and I was like I can't hit it. And sites are was looking at some video, and he said, I'm just swinging over the top of China. Honestly, uppercut it and, you know is able to the actually through fastened. My hit was a fast ball sized kinda thankfully through through festival along gaming Rondo talking about man were tired. But you know bullpen was outstanding. You know, every everyone they relied out and, you know, it's expected of them because the arms are there and they're that good. Coming up a great conversation with Bob Kendrick, the president of the negro leagues museum about the great outpouring of response that happened after a case of vandalism at his museum last June. We're also be talking with Jake Kaplan athletic about the best team in baseball. Let's get you it. It's the Rabbie tray with Carl Ravitch. Colorado. So's the baseball tonight, play by play man for ESPN joins us via the shell Pennzoil performance line. Where's the Rabbie train going this weekend? Carl grabby crave. Busy Memorial Day weekend. We got a graduation, that barest which were all excited about on Saturday, Sunday a little studio baseball tonight leading into your game. Monday Fenway park for eastern time. The Morial day, the train is rolling the big time on one of the great one of the great holidays for what it represents, as well as the symbolic kicking off of summer. We, we have played so many baseball games had called so many games BUSTER, that felt like it was the middle of November that I'm excited about having some warmer weather than, of course, celebrating our heroes on this Memorial Day. It's a good weekend in no question about it looks like we're gonna have great weather, and I thought that the other day when you had the the cubs game. And it looked like it was about thirty degrees. And I was thinking that you needed to put ten. Kirk tin inside the heater. Right. I mean, sometimes you put blankets on it, but the other day when it was that cold in Chicago and looking at the play I thought, Mike, Tim must be miserable. He wasn't pleased. But I will say this to the credit of our great crew, and we have a great crew, because part of it is like babysitting for us, especially Tim. They had a heater underneath the the table there. So it was relatively warm in the bizarre part of that game was the next day. It was eighty one degrees. So we went from two eighty one. Welcome to may in northeast and the midwest. All right. So I think you'll appreciate this player. Superstition is always a concern for people who do interviews like yourself like me yesterday. We interviewed Josh bell at ten fifteen in the morning. Okay. And the pirates scheduled for twelve thirty start ginger damage to the pirates squeezes in a week in which Josh bell is getting a lot of attention. And as you know, when you do that sort of situation, you don't necessarily root for a team. But Mandy root for players. I was saying, I really hope Josh bell has a good day, and this is what happened in their game yesterday. Okay. The Senator Kerry. Jim. Homers again. Even count, unless he hits it like out of the ballpark, that AT and T sports that the pirates television network. Yeah. So the next time it request comes in for Josh bell become on the podcast. I don't know means superstitious or not Karl in the back of his mind. Is gonna think yeah. The last time I talked to BUSTER I hit a home run afterwards. So that increases our chances. We talked yesterday Carl onto pod with him about the homerun derby. And he was very respectful of the process. He talked about how he's focused on yesterday's game, but he also said, you know, that, that sounds interesting. And this year you'll be the host of the homerun derby, again. And I think we're reached that time of the calendar, where we start to think about that. Josh bell? Absolutely would have to be one of the guys get an invite. Yes. Yeah. You know the grid part of the call. The guy had there on the radio was the idea that it was hit. And he said, okay. And then he's like, carrying carrying and bell has that extra Kerry. It's unlike the pitcher that, that people say, well, the perception, is it picks up speed when it gets the home Nells homers keep flying, and they sort of added another thirty to forty feet of what you'd expect it off the bat. I think Josh bell would be great candidate. I think people like Josh bell and Michael Chavis. You know, to me, the homerun derby, has relied press wise me, so on the stab names, but I think the homeland derby would benefit by a real good mix. And I think Bill, given that he plays in Pittsburgh, given the year these other would be an ideal candidate to go along with one or two or three of the established guys. But this game is so young now I'd love to see some of the young budding superstars in the in the homerun derby, I think it would be great. And belt. He you know, his he hits the majestic homers, he hits the high, you know, the far will add, he'll get the bonus time. Yeah. I think he'd be a great cat of it. But I also I lost her because of what you did yesterday. Josh bell may call you every day. Now you made. There you go. I'll give you some names. And see if we're thinking along the same lines about the potential homerun derby field. I think automatic invites go out to guys like might tragedy. Martinez Nolan are not. Oh. And in all likelihood, those guys will turn it down because that's kind of what they've done in the past. I think he'd be creek if you if you're if you have to be, but you gotta have Aaron judge on the list. I know he's I it's never to happen, but he needs to at least invited to every every homerun derby. Right, exactly. As John Carlos Stanton the same thing, you invite him to everyone, you invite Brice Horford, everyone is going to turn it down as well, Christian yelich, he has to get invite this year. I would hope that he would accept how cool would that be after the conversation you had, and I had with him a few years ago in Marlins camp when he was talking about twenty home runs like it was the most unreachable thing ever. And now he's one of baseball's best home run hitters, George Springer. The Astros would be a great one Cody Bellinger, obviously with this, first half, you'd be terrific. And you you mentioned some of the young guys. Let me throw. Some other names that you sort of off the beaten path Pete Alonso, the midst, he would be a blast in a homerun derby. Great Ronald the Kuni junior of the Braves. He'd be the little guy with a huge power that everyone would be excited to watch Joey Gallo, look, we've been talking about him forever. He would be a lot of fun. And how about Austin Riley, like coming into the big leagues right away reminding everybody of Troy gloss, glosses, big hulking, eventually, it'll be third baseman for them. He's been playing left field later but this guy hits the ball so far. He's already got five home runs in the big leagues. You like my list. I love your list. I again, I would put Michael shavers on it. Yeah. We see the Mets Yankees and Red Sox every night. All he does is really hit homers. He's got a tailor-made swing for a homerun derby. He'd be another name to go with those. I think you're right about Alonzo, and how much he would embrace it all you remember that conversation, by the way. It Marlins camp about yellow because that was when Stanton was there and Dee Gordon was there and Stanton. And Dee Gordon stood next to each other and one will look like a match like live like the match thing you used to use to delay candle. And the, the other one looked like the Eiffel tower and yell, it's sort of like closer to the match than he was the Eiffel tower. And he's always got that, that attitude in that look about. He just woke up. He always says the just woke up look about them. And yet, he, he is turned into an absolute terrific power hitter. So, yeah, that's it's a very, it's a very good list that you have and Gallo name has come up, historically forever. I think we have Joey Galloway assumption is if he's healthy either Santana or Ramirez. We'll do it from Cleveland. I'd love to see Linda do it, but I doubt that they'll let him do it, depending on where they are. And I think this season. You have to have one of the twins in there. You know. And I I'm not sure which one of the twins but they all hit homers two now and I think you probably need a twin in there. Yeah. It's funny you say that because I actually went through the list of twins, you know, potentially CJ krone might be a guy that you would take a look at maybe Eddie resort area would be taken guy guy. You take a look at Nelson Cruz potentially mighty mad. Yeah. And you're right. Because the twins are absolutely killing it. And I think to you. He just want guys who you know, are going to have fun with it. Which is why Pete Alonso. You know he'd be like a ten year old and a wiffle ball game. Just bouncing around getting fired up. Oh, Christian yelich would have a great sense. George Springer whatever great time with that. I think Cody Bellinger, I kind of wonder what his his attitude would beat toward that given how he's done so well in the first half staying with his approach that might be a case, where the player said, you know what I'm going good. I'll just I'll stay with four any guests four and he, he didn't have a great deal of success. I the the beauty of the Springer is that you then bring all the other Astros, because all that they interact with each other into it. So that means bregman involved with it. Vern Lander Astros. Yeah. That, that, that's a big part of it is their level of Volvo with all right. Josh before it gets to one other name. I wanted to bring up, you get any other names. You wanna throw in there, too. I think you guys have covered it. Josh bell, obviously, is is a man for me. Yup. Yeah. Especially with all the home runs hit into the Allegheny. His biggest problem would be home runs. Go so high and so far that he would lose time on the clock. Waiting for them to come down. Okay. So a few years ago, the hot and heavy conversation about the derby, was whether or not to have a pitchers derby, you and I would agree. That's never going to happen there, probably know pitcher would ever have it. But yesterday I was listening to the Braves game on radio Jim pal and Joe Simpson. We're talking about how before the game Madison. Bumgarner was out there taking batting practice and they said he was just killing it. And look over the next two months Madison Bumgarner is going to be one of the most talked about players in baseball because he's going to be traded before the July thirty first deadline. I think that's pretty clear and he's said into free agency and again, I always get back to why not it would be something that we would all be interested to see he would be really into it. I, I strongly suspect that if the giants had reservations before about letting them participate now for hand would say. Say Zaidi, who's head of baseball ops would probably say white. My number one trade chip is going to be in the home run dirty or wants to be in home. And every forget it I still love to see it Carl. Yeah. I hear ya. I'd love to see. It's funny because I before you before you ran off on medicine Bumgarner dialogue here. I was going to cut you off and say every year you fall in the Madison Bumgarner sword. But you haven't brought him up and I figured just out of deference to his inquiry on it had gotten off that train but, but you feel right back on that sort, again, Bumgarner would be cool just see yesterday. The Joe Madden pinch Tyler chat wouldn't today, basically after the game said he, he might continue to do that because he takes legitimate swings to me. That's a separate kind of competition, the pitchers involved in a homerun derby, but yeah. And Bumgarner is just so big, and so strong. It'd be fun to watch all the time. Yeah. And we got this great tweet when I sent out the question about the derby this morning. Excuse me. I've mispronounce his name show. Sh others Kleinman tweeted at us and said he nominates the Orioles pitching staff to be on the other side of this. What do you think for the homerun derby? That that was. All right. I'm sure you, did you watch some of the yes, you're is you watch some of the outfielders for the Orioles after a ball when over the center field wall. They just would collapse against the wall as if to suggest, you know, uncle can we just stop the madness here? This is depressing. Yeah. It's depressing. And we only have four more months ago on maybe three years after that, as long as we're going negative. Let's talk about the nationals day Martinez. Yesterday's the nationals bullpen blew another game. This is what happened give a listen after how Kendrick argued about a check swing. He was elected from the game. The day Martinez came out of the nationals dugout. And there goes the skipper. Get your money's worth now Davey. There goes tap after kicks dirt on home plate. And he pursues, Bruce Dreckman. Just ask for help. It's always asking is ask for some help down there. Gucci Palumbo coming down the line. A lot of frustration right there in the NAT skip reconsidered understandably. Yeah. So that was Bob carpenter. Santangelo describing day Martinez. He covered up home plate. Kick dirt on own played. He threw his hat the whole thing. Curl. I was watching this live. And I thought he came out of the dugout with the way, the nationals are going, you know they get swept by the Mets and a four game series. I thought for sure he was going to get a jetted. It was going to be like, you know what? I'm just going to let them have it. And Dave Martinez is you. And I know is probably the most positive person you ever want to meet in your life. But even for him at this point, it's got to be like, are you kidding me? And there's all this conversation about whether or not, he's going to get fired Thomas Boswell, the columnist for the Washington Post wrote the other day that, you know what he's a terrific person. But he really shouldn't be a manager in, in Tom's opinion. I don't know what that would solve. I get it. I get it. It's kind like with Mickey Callaway yours. Yeah. Let's do managers bringing creek Kimber with them in a variety of other bullpen arms, not a manager issue. I mean they historically loss games here with the bullpen construction that they have and to his credit to his dying credit. He continues to say I think we have the people here. We just gotta find the right ones. But yeah, it, it clearly is, is apparent that he's not going to be one of the right ones to make those decisions. And to me, the question, then becomes, you know, whether it's just him that goes, or is the ownership group willing to knowledge that as, as Mike Rizzo has built this team into the power that they are. They've, they've not been able to take that next step. And here's another season in which I think today, you can say feels like they ain't gonna take that next step again. And you know, that's really to me where this conversation goes, because I think everybody acknowledges, this is not a managerial alone issue. No. And you. Reference, the bullpen Paulin bikinis Ford this number from the last sports bureau. The nationals ERA for the rotation to this point is three point eight nine. They're both penny area seven point zero two, which would be the second worst since nineteen twenty that difference between the rotation area and the bullpen area of three point one three is the largest fifty games since the nineteen fifty to Philadelphia Lennox. That's how bad this bullpen is. And as you say, that's, that's not a day, Martinez thing. But we've reached the stage where I think you and I would agree, whatever happens. We wouldn't be surprised if there was a change of some kind today, we wouldn't be surprised not at all Finn. Look, you know, the ironic part is gut through them. They played the Mets in the midst, of course, we're in a situation where it felt like prior to Brody coming out and saying, you know, Mickey's our guy that one of those two managers were going to go, and now it's the Marlins that they get and you look at the Marlins JIRA. It all of a sudden they're playing well, so Mattingly, this is not another one of those will at some point, both managers are going to be on a real hot seat. That's the division that those guys are in. It's ironic that those two Calloway and Davey were the ones whose were sort of circling around there as who's going to get fired. I and now it appears as if Calloway is, is very safe. And we haven't seen that type of public approval for Martinez from the nuts. It is long as you're going down the negative path. Let's talk about Matt Harvey after historic yesterday in which the twins. Absolutely hammered, and Brad offices manager was asking answering questions about whether or not he's going to stay in the rotation. He's got a seven point five O E, R A in ten starts. He's got a whip of one point five two hembo set along these numbers about how he just absolutely lacks a put away pitch this year in two strike counts. Coral in two thousand in nineteen opponents have to seventy seven batting average a nine forty nine Opie s that's more than double the opium against Matt Harvey in the first seven years of his career, four fifty four and two strikes situations because he used to be the guy who when you got the two strikes. You're dead, Matt Harvey would finish hitters better than any other pitcher. And he's thirty years old Carl, and you're sitting there asking the question is this it like is he done and you and I talked this spring a couple times about these, these contracts that young players are taking. Because they wanna make sure they get paid in some way. Well, Matt Harvey's a cautionary tale because five years ago he was the guy everybody wanted. And now we're wondering if he is a role in major league baseball and move forward. Very fair very, very fair and look, we operate in a results oriented business. If if the numbers say one thing and the results say another, you can have a discussion in his case the results and the numbers both tell you that things have the arrow pointing down and, and he's not alone. I mean there are a bunch of teams that are questioning whether their starting pitchers should stay in rotations. He's, he's the headliner on a team that's probably played a little bit above. It's skis. And I think that's that adds to the, the frustration with, you know, his inability to, to perform, so, yeah, I you know, I it just doesn't feel like I think the difference is when you have these young guys they can either be sent down to work on things or you give them the benefit of the doubt. When you're. Matt Harvey's age the experience. He has, it's, it's very difficult to come up with a new trick. You know. So it's very hard to turn the page on consistently bad performances with regards to the numbers, you're putting up. I would agree unfortunately because I he was when he was good as fun to watch as any pitcher in baseball. No doubt about it. And, you know, every winter, a deal goes down where you get a bunch of text from executives who are not involved saying, what, what were, they thinking a couple of winters ago with the winter meetings when the Rockies gave in Desmond five years, and seventy million dollars. That was the response when the Mets made that huge Robinson canot trade and gave up to top one hundred prospects got a lot of what were they thinking, and I gotta tell you when the angels gave Matt Harvey that eleven million dollars in one year. I got a lot of sex people saying what in the world were. They thinking Carl have a great weekend. Thank you very much. We'll talk to you Sunday night. That conversation was brought to you by Pennzoil. The first synthetic motor oil made from natural gas. The proof is in the Pennzoil. 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E R, ZipRecruiter dot com slash BUSTER. Ziprecruiter, the smartest way to hire. It's time for some inside heat on baseball tonight. Jake Kaplan covers the Houston Astros for the athletic and Jake. Let's start with this, or get the question of whether this year's team will win the title, a separate question in terms of affected this in your eyes to date or the two thousand nine nineteen Astros better than the team that won the World Series in two thousand seventeen. I think so. You know, the offense you know to, to, to think that it could be better than twenty seventeen is seems like a stretch, but it might be I think Michael Brantley hot that big of an impact on in the middle of their lineup. Yeah. I think there's a there's a, there's a decent chance. It is. I mean, I think last year's team was was probably better overall based on the rotation strength even though their offense regress. So right now, I would say, yes, and then they're certainly on a pace to win more games than they didn't twenty seventeen. And it seems like a part of that is the fact that Carlos Correa moving a lot better than he did last year. Do you see the same thing? Yeah, his swing looks a lot better. You know, he's, he's already hit as many if not more balls a hundred and ten miles an hour off the bat, then he did all last year. The back issue obviously sapped a lot of his his rotational ability and strength last year. And he's he looks back to being the player that you saw the first top twenty seventeen before he he, he suffered the injury that year. So haven't him in the fourth and fifth hole right behind Brownlee has been a big win for them as well. So what are the ways that you feel like Brantley has helped the team? Well on the field, obviously having the left handed bat in there. They, they got really right handed last year in their lineup. Especially when Josh Radic regressed and Brian McCann regressed and got injured so having that left handed badges, you know, makes it that much more balanced than you have Alex bregman and Michael Bramley back to back to the best contacted or is in the game back to back up. That's really difficult for the opposing pitcher. And in the clubhouse, it seems like he's fit right in, especially with, you know, helping out George Springer in terms of funding routine, and the day to day stuff, sprinters talked a lot about how much friendlies already helped him in that respect. So, you know, he's been a I don't know. It's underrated because everyone seems to recognize it, but he's been a huge addition for this team. So we've seen the last couple of summers. Jeff Luneau has been a big game hunter. Her when it comes to trade market. And we're coming up on that conversation as we get into June and July a couple years ago, the Astros, and I understand it's not only Jeff, it's also owner Jim crane, and other folks in the organization volved that conversation about Justin Burland or last year. They talked about possibly Quiring Bryce Harper before the nationals pulled back on that conversation from the outside looking in it feels like that the area potential area of need the most and this could change with injuries would be starting pitching. Do you see them again going after, you know, a big name one of the best guys in the marketplace? Yeah, if there's one of elible, I do agree with you. I think starting pitching is the biggest area they could stand up great as they kind of look to improve the roster for a potential playoff series. If you got us number three starter there behind Justin Verlinsky, Garrett Cole push Wade Miley. Or Brad peacock that four spot and the other other guys the bullpen. I think that's the biggest where they could strengthen the roster. I it's just a matter of who and I'm not sure, you know, if that caliber of, of Justin Verlander, guys out there this trade season but you know, they have plenty of ammo in their farm system to trade from, and I expect that, they'd explore, you know, all those possibilities as they emerge, and probably the most intriguing possibility would be if the Astros are the team to make a deal with the Cleveland Indians for Trevor power because of all the history that you have there. Do you. I mean look we saw last year. Jeff did not shy away from adding Roberto as soon a- it at time when no other teams were willing to take them on. Would he actually think consider adding Trevor Bowers too much there? I don't know that can interesting one. You know, I think that at least consider it right? I mean he's back good of a picture, and actually Brent Strom. The actress pitching coach is known Bauer for a long time back from their days at the Texas baseball ranch. So be an interesting possibility if, if it was viable there might there might be too much there in the in the back of background. But I don't know that that's an interesting hypothetical. All right. Forty five seconds left eye earlier in the year when I was around the dodgers, it's clear that team has a big chip on a shoulder losing the World Series two thousand seventeen two thousand eighteen and there is a lot of motivation in that clubhouse. What's your sense of that with the Astros after they weren't able to go back to back last year? Yeah. I think even last year it was still there. You know, I think part of it is they, they have a bunch of guys who weren't on that twenty seven team who were core parts of this team like Garrett Cole and Michael Brantley those guys have never won World Series. So I think that, that helps kind of keep that fire going, and these and these players also just, you know, they they've felt that sensation. Once they, they wanna win again last year. I think it was the injuries just mounted on them, and they they their offense regressed they, they didn't have the same offense at that your before, but this year, especially if they add a another starter trade deadline, I think they seem they seem plenty hungry to get back there. Well, as you know, Jake is you get asked the same question. I do who do you root for. I always say roof for interesting stories, and the most interesting outcome at the trade deadline would be Trevor Bauer to the Astros. That's what I'm rooting for. I don't know about you. Thanks for doing this. Thanks buster. Are you a big guy fed up with clothes that don't fit? Here's a tip head to d- XL, anyone can make a bigger shirt, but DSL makes clothes that actually fit. It's all they do want to know their secret. Okay. They've spent years developing their own sizing patterns to make sure it's a comfortable fit every time and every size. Good luck finding that anywhere else. So head to d- XL dot com and check out a store near you, d excelled big and tall built for you at DSL dot com. Baseball tonight weekend warrior. Bob Kendrick is the president of the negro leagues. Baseball museum in Kansas City, Bob, how you doing today? Booked up to a great man. Thanks so much for having me on the show. Absolutely always love talking with you. All right. I wanted to get John because we're, we're coming up to the to the one year anniversary of the negro leagues museum being a target of vandalism that happened on June twenty second two thousand eighteen take us back to that day, if he can about how you heard the news. And, and what exactly the damage was. God to play at an early morning around of golf and was that one of my favorite breakfast by eating some breakfast with my coupley, Dr Raymond dies will come and say, man, you gotta get down here in a hurry. The buckle. Neil center is flooding and BUSTER, that time we didn't know exactly what was going on. We just knew that, that was what all over the place. And so, by the time I got there, it was the aftermath, and so they had called a fire department in and you know kudos to the fire department who came in and found a water shut off valve and turn it off, and then they were literally in they're trying to squeeze you all of this massive amount of water that had guiding into the building. And the building that was speaking of is the former Pacelle YMCA, which we've designated as the home of the buckle Neil education and research center, and for those who will be listening, the YMCA Priscilla, why MTA is the birthplace of the negro leagues. That's where the leaks were formed in nineteen twenty we started restoring that. Abandoned building historic landmark, and so when I get there is the after man. And it was really only until we started to explore the building that we finally realized that this wasn't just flooding that the building had been vandalized that someone that very Stephanie got into the building cut a main line waterpipe turned the water off, then cut the pie turned water back on and intentionally flooded to building. And so I think at that point my heart just sank into my stomach. You know, I tell people all the time had it been just an accident. We would have had the same amount of damage that we occurred, but knowing that it was done very maliciously and deliberately hurt even more. And at that point buck the United way to white flag, man. You read to give up old people, and, you know, you can't give up old people if anything that I ever learned being around buckle Neil for so many years. You can't give up on people. But at that point in time, I read the weighted right? Flank, you know, you're just saying that people will do some despicable things who in the world would want wanna hurt this building that the community was so excited about the effort that the museum put into it to save it. And so, and that's when we saw this incredible outpouring star to occur. And so, and I want to get to that in a moment. I wanna ask you first off what have we learned about possibly the person or persons responsible for this not only for this, but that happened the vandalism at the museum happened just a month after. A police believe that there was a fire set intentionally at the homosexual page. Yeah. People, I think, if an eerie coincidence, 'cause I don't think that you had anything connected, but it is just that a very Erie coincidence, that two of the most renowned names and black baseball, and particularly at release to Kansas City black baseball history. Both had something with the names associated to it vandalize in this case Arsim at the former home of the legendary LeRoy satchel page. And then the flooding damage to the buckle Neil education and research center. And again, I don't think that they were connected. But again very Irie coincidence, and to this point, we've not learned very much about either. I'm not sure we gonna have a find out who did these despicable things to those two historic landmarks, and truthfully bus, I've kind of moved away from trying to figure out who did it and why they did it to just trying to get into a mode of resolution. Let's get it fixed and move on because I think what we have to do. And this is something that you kinda. Of hopefully embraces that you cannot allow the hater to win. And I think that's the spirit in which we've kind of kind of looked at this, and the resolve that we have, and I think giving us even greater resolve to make sure that we get this building finished, and that buckle Neal's dream will certainly be fulfill, and that was the most important thing to him outside of building the current negro leagues baseball museum where we are. He wanted to have that education research center built in his memory because education was always at the forefront of his coexistence. And so we're determined even more. So now to make sure that hits his dream becomes a reality. I thought of you and I thought of that, vandalism actually when we saw the fire in France, with, with Notre Dom recently. Because you mentioned that sick feeling in your stomach of all my God, because no matter to some degree, no matter what you do. They're going to be things that are lost that you're not going to be able to get back. What were some of those things at that time for you? Fortunately, fortunately, FIS very fortunately FIS, the buck O'Neil Senate where they still developing center, so beyond just some of the infrastructure that was no artifacts memorabilia, anything like that. And the building, thank goodness. So we didn't have any of those kinds of laws. It was just more structural laws. But we had taken, and if you're familiar with ole YMCA's, they all had the gymnasium in, and then they had to track that ran around the top of the gymnasium as a matter of fact, you couldn't shoot a jump shot from the corner, because the track was through lower overhead, forget, everything straight away. Well, we had taken that. Oh, gymnasium BUSTER and turn it into one of the most elegant events basis anywhere in the city and, and for all of that word was destroyed. I mean, we're talking about this beautiful custom parquet flooring would have imagined the Boston Garden where you walked in just absolutely gorgeous. And as negative can say when. I walked in that building and seeing all that water on that custom parking. Oh my goodness. One of the one of the reporters say, well, you know, you taking it pretty good. I say you don't understand. I've crying on his side. I'm. Smiling outwardly. Keeping his optimistic outlook on his side, I cry because I knew that custom floor was going to be destroyed. Any was. And so we got a care of everything that was had been done and redo it again. And so that always, you know that, that hurts. But again, the pain has been lessened by, again, to support of so many people that from across the country, who heard about this, and wanted to try and eat a little bit of that pain and angst for us here at the movies baseball museum. Yeah. Let's get to that good stuff. Okay. Tell me about that response. And if you can't because as a lot of times donors, they'll give things they don't want people to know. Some, some people, I'm hoping to do give you things that you're able to talk about specifically about the donations in the aftermath of this. Yeah, it was incredible. Because as I was probably it was probably one of the lowest point in both my professional impersonal career here at the negro leagues baseball museum. I don't know if I felt anywheres perhaps outside the date at my different buckle. Neil did not get voted into the national baseball hall of fame. It was a similar kind of Philly. And when you fill your lowest, and as I said, you're ready to give up on people what happens people step up to the plate, and they stepped up in wage, which just renewed spirit in mankind, because all of these people, very Seth Asli from around the country started an outpouring of donations to the museum. And you know what BUSTER, it didn't even mad at what the amount of money was because what we were literally kids raising funds to send to the museum and you had individuals who just felt so compelled and at that point in time we weren't even asking. For the support because we're still trying to wrap our arms around everything that happened. But people felt so compelled by this that they just started sending in contributions, and, like I say, even more than the amount of money, and we're talking several hundred thousand dollars that were raised by the time you factor in the support of major league baseball who is so very generous and the players association of entities around the country. We're talking several hundred thousand dollars that were raised to help offset the damage to this building. It just renewed your spirit in people, and your belief in people, and it was something that we are ready new deliberate. Buckle Neal was so beautifully and elegantly say that people will do bad things, and good people will fix them. And the good people snapped up to help fix them. But even more importantly, for me lifted not only master, but I think in the spirit of entire group of us who apart of this organization and, like, I say it. It's made a big, and even deeper. Now to resolve so great to make sure again at the hater does not get the last word this building will be done in the spirit of buckle. Neil, and so many others will benefit from it as a result of, but it does not happen without the good wheel of so many people the majority of them, we've never met before, many of them have never stepped foot inside as museum. They just understand how important these things are so that we can continue to help educate people about the richness and the history of the negro leagues and what it meant both on and off the field. And so it was just overwhelming the support was overwhelming. I'm still overwhelmed by the outpouring of love that we got from so many people around the country. If our listeners one some of our listeners wanted to, to help out how would they do that? No, they could go online to it. L B, M dot com. They will baseball him dot com. There are places that you can donate, if you're so inclined and certainly those contributions are always welcome and needed, as we are now in that cleanup phase for the building. We have a goal to have that building open by February thirteenth twenty twenty and that Busta will mock the actual one hundred anniversary of the founding of the negro leagues in that very building. How poetic would that be? Wow. Have a ceremonial circumstance in the very building which rube foster formed, amigo leave here in Kansas City in nineteen twenty on that actual date to have the buckle meal education and research center, opened in some capacity and a ceremonial event there one hundred years later and that's our goal. And we're working. Diligently to, to make that happen. And thanks to so many who have supported this, and others who may consider supporting this, and our friends at major league Baseball Players Association and the city of Kansas City, Missouri, who have been tremendous partners through this entire ordeal. Let's make that happen. Bob, I've really appreciate your time. And I'm so glad that, you know, I mean buck O'Neil resonates his words, resonate even after something awful like that happened. Yeah. No dispute of buckets deal very much alive and well and, you know, I know you had not notebook and for those who didn't get kids book, you know, his spirit is still playing here. The legacy of buckle Neal is alive and well here at the Middle East baseball museum. He's one of the most incredible people ever had an opportunity to make great baseball player. But an even greater human being fully cheer tweets. All right. Bus your let's go into the holiday weekend with some good Bleacher tweets. We got this one from cross fit school of sweat. He's at school of sweat says, if things progress as they have to this point, who's going to win American League rookie of the year will Vladimir Guerrero junior. Get the votes based on all the high peace add over the past couple of seasons or will Michael Chaveas get the credit that he's earned. Well, Michael J is certainly going to get the credit that he's earned. But in the end, it'll be bled junior last nine games hitting three oh, six three fifty nine base percentage, five homers and thirty nine plate appearances. Now, e you wonder sort of the impact of playing on a bad team. And that's what the Blue Jays or this year. There's actually good and bad to that on a daily basis. I think there's more energy, if you plan on a good team. But Josh I've seen this place before where a good hitter on a bad team that's getting blown out day after day, the opposing pitcher and manager like just Rama heater. Yeah. Like just Roma fastball. He and because of that you see the players get opportunities to do damage in one-sided games. And I think the Blue Jays are going to be in a few those and Vlad junior will do damage. That's interesting. And you mentioned the bad team versus good team. Dilemma, I feel like in terms of perception when it comes to voting on stuff like this, a lot of times we've seen with the trout argument is he really the MVP, if the angel stink, I feel like that's less of a factor for rookie of the year. Than it is for 'em. VP. Would you agree? Yeah. I would agree with that, for sure. No, no no doubt about it. I think it's an open editing. And in fact, I don't think raiders really care that much about it. All it can be like an extra Chit like if you had a young ace pitcher, leading a staff that makes the playoffs that could be a plus. But I agree with the generally. It doesn't apply Rena at Rena banana says out of the teams that are likely not in playoff contention, which one is your favorite to watch and why angels trout like all every night. I'll spend the spend two and angels game on television to see trout's at bats because he's fun to watch best one to follow those the Mets because of the soap opera. I mean it's you can't take your eyes off it Brock Hoover, at smooth who've says are the royals along just a little bit of pitching away from being a playoff contender. Or am I just a salty cardinal fan after watching a couple of games with the D H Brock? I did think they're putting some stuff together. When you look at the guys in the top five. Spots are likely that, you know, that, that looks like a core of guys kind of, like, what when they put the Ha's Moore's Staka says, and those guys together you could see that coming together for the royals, but they need a lot of pitching, not a little bit. Yeah. David Cooper, at D underscored coops underscore seven says the Rockies are struggling in a similar way to the Mets with veterans such as Chris, I Etta, hitting about two forty five in Desmond around two thirty, Mark Reynolds right around the Mendoza line of two hundred and Daniel Murphy below that at about one ninety with these results. Will we see the end of contenders? Acquiring veterans know we're going to see a lot of good veterans on the move before the July thirty first deadline. But you're right about the Rockies with some of the guys that they invested not pay off. And we set it. I remember that the moment that he and Desmond when you heard about that deal, five year, seventy million dollars. People were texting me with other teams going. What are they thinking? They were just surprised. And that's deal hasn't worked out Danny Murphy was hurt early this year. So. You give that more time. And you hope that he bounces back. More Reynolds is kind of a hot and cold guy, and remember, they're not paying him a lot of money. But to this point you right. The Rockies have not gotten the production, they may have been -ticipant and finally, this from Tyler Greenall at Greenall Tyler we got into it with Carl about the nationals, and Dave Martinez. But Tyler says it even fair for the nets to fire Davey. It's not like he put this joke of a bullpen together. Now, it's not fair. But what did they say about what life is not fair BUSTER? You took the words right out of my mouth. That's what I was going to say that, that, that's exactly right. Life is not fair. And it's, it's the way of the world. Also the way of the world to have a long weekend here BUSTER. We will talk to you again on Tuesday. And when we do, so we will need your Bleacher tweets. So get them in using the hashtag Bleacher tweets. Yeah. Memorial Day for me. I'm my son is going to be a band in a Memorial Day parade. Something that was really important to my mom is a kids go out and put flags in front of headstones and cemetery just. It's an important day to think about people who lost their lives in the service of this country. And that's awesome. Not all kidding aside. Hats off. That's that's really cool. That, that you guys are doing that. Yeah. So that the definitely lined up for Monday when I get back from Saint Louis, and what about you just taking a long weekend and doing some stuff. But obviously in my mind going to be thinking about what the holiday is really about in. It's not just about picnics and barbecues, there's some real meaning to it as well. And going to keep that in mind, and I think about Jerry Coleman every time the former Padres broadcaster, he's one of two major leaguers, who served as a flyer in both wars, the other was Ted Williams. And, and I was around Jerry so many times when people would come up to him and said, it would tell him, you know, thanks for being a hero. And he would always say time and time and time again. I'm not the hero. The heroes of the, those poor guys, this poor people who lost their lives in service of the country having great weekend. Thanks for listening. Thanks for listening to the baseball tonight podcast. If you're playing fantasy baseball tell forget to listen to the fantasy focus podcast checkout, all podcasts at ESPN dot com slash pod center. Baseball tonight, the podcast.

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"Welcome. To painting corners, your weekly podcast or all things baseball. Now. Here are your host Austin Hartsfield, and Dave quit cow. Welcome episode nine a painting corners, my name's Austin Hartsfield. Dave quick hausky is here with me as always table. What is the number of the highest paid free agent at the end of the winner at the end of the winner. Josh Donaldson was the highest paid guy going into free agency. He made twenty three million last year. He's not going to be twenty three million this year. No, he's not he might make twenty though you might make twenty might get lucky. We're going to give you a breakdown of everybody from the end of two thousand eighteen what their salary was the big time for agents, and we're going to try and give you our best guess of where they're going to end up. And there's some guys on the list are retired or contemplating retirement or are just trash and should retire. So we'll we'll sprinkle them in there too. We'll give you ideal spots of where we think these people are going to go round the contract numbers as well. You wanna start out with the big dogs? Yeah. Let's let's start out with to start out with the guy. We just mentioned Josh Donaldson. I think he ended up on a contender. I wouldn't be surprised if he ended right back up on Cleveland to be honest Cleveland. I'm for some reason, I'm kind of set on Saint Louis. You are. I Don I think there's lot of people are saying Louis right now, I think there's another third baseman shortstop backing to end up in Saint Louis. I think maybe even Houston could use your Josh Donaldson at that. They're gonna lose a Marlin Gonzales. They're gonna lose an extra utility type of guy someone to DA ch-, someone's always hurt and Houston, and and I could see him ended up there in a lost episode that we have infamously now. Frank tank mention Josh Donaldson is the perfect met is the perfect met. He's a to overpay Johnson could be serviceable somewhere. I don't think. So really? But if he gets healthy he could be serviceable for cheap number. But this is a typical Mets give them fifteen million dollars. You know, two year thirty million Calica. Jay, Bruce Essop has type deal where they completely blow up over a formerly good player. How many years how much money I'm going one for twenty go one between ten and fifteen. I think he just signed a one year not approve it deal by any means because he's still does have things left in the tank. It's more like an earned it deal. Basically, it is he earned it over the years. He'll hit home runs. I think I think he will. I don't know if he won't hit for average. But he might pop some home runs here and there and and be a good deal. I think he stays in the American League though. So cleveland. Yeah. We'll go. We'll go Cleveland. We'll go dark horse. We'll go. We'll go the Astros. I'm gonna go Saint Louis. Like, I said before the next guy on that list, though, definitely not retired. Now, it's it's only twenty six years old coming off a twenty one point seven to five million dollar arbitration deal. I believe it was the highest arbitration deal in history. It was right. I was going to stay. I'm sure Chris Brown is going to break it this year. But Bryce Harper hundred RBI's for the first time his career thirty four home runs didn't bat the best with average Batu forty nine turn that on late. Where's he going? How much is it? And is it going to break records? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's going to be three hundred. Plus, I think we know that that's yeah. It's not even a question. It's no remorse for Senate already. He he needs to get close to stand or better. It's it's more likely that he winds up closer to four than he does three because Stanton's was. What? Ten knows like fourteen right or ten or fourteen. What was the length on the contract? I think it was thirteen years at three hundred twenty five million off top my head that I think I think Harper's getting eight to ten years in probably sitting around the thirty four to thirty two million dollar range. Yeah. I agree. I think you'll get eight years eight to ten years between three twenty five and three fifty right? If I had to put a number on it. I'd say ten years at three fifty with ops opt-outs after the fourth year a lot of opt-outs every year every single year, and that is huge. Now. That's whatever wants now. It barely used to be thing. Like if you got an opt-out you were just like, oh, that's that's a nice perk. Excessively? Yeah. It was a throw throwing before. Now. It's a dealbreaker in the nationals offer them ten by three hundred with no opt-outs for that. And he scoffed thought he laughed at it. You know, I think he's aiming for more eight years. So he could get that extra two years, but ten years with the opt-outs equals the same thing. He could opt out at age forty. I mean, I'm sorry h thirty then 'cause he's twenty six now twenty seven you usually what four or five years for an opt-out on a big contract like that halfway through. So he could opt out with thirty. And that could be a big golden ticket for him. He could stay where he is. It all depends. But where's he going to go though? That's the big question as money. I've stamped my flag on this past two years. And I've had people laugh at me, the laughing has gone silent here in the past couple of months, though. I still think he's going to be Philadelphia Philly, and I think that outfield of Hoskins Harper and Harare is going to be pretty damn good. Yeah. I didn't think it was gonna be the film. For a while. Because that ended they're going to contend not because I didn't think he would go there. But because I figured by trout was going to end up there in a couple of years when his free agencies up hometown kid hometown team. Tired of losing in L A in Philly was going to be good. By then Phillies already. Good philly. Got gotta be number one. And number two in the list. I'm gonna go to be a little different though. I'm gonna go Chicago White Sox. So. Shot white talks, Dave, and I'm gonna put the Phillies right behind it. I think it's I think it's honestly a toss up between those two I don't even have a dark horse for them darkhorse Atlanta, Atlanta's the dark horse. Yeah. That's the one that if you got an old to three hundred seventy five million dollars over ten years, something like that. But I think it's going to be the White Sox were Phillies for sure I think it's ten for around three sixty. Yeah. I'll go ten three fifty another one of the best of his generation, Brian McCann. Where does he play next year me and the guy made what seventeen million dollars last year playing for Houston could possi- he might be a brave and honestly for being completely honest. Yeah. It depends. What he wants to do if he's gonna cash out he'll go somewhere random. But I think he ends up in the American League. I think he ends up back in Houston again. Or I think he might end up in Cleveland Cleveland could use a little help young gums. I don't know how long much longer. He's going to be there for they traded with a number one catching prospects, and in the more basically prospect in here to San Diego for Brad hand. So now much coming up in the system and the catching department they have some younger pitchers on that squad. They're moving away from kluber caracal it looks like so guys like Pupo and club injure and Trevor Bauer are gonna need a veteran catcher in there. I think he workout while they're maybe Toronto. Toronto could use a guy. I mean, they're going to get another version of what's his name. The Russell Martin. I mean McCann's not gonna play every day. He's not your everyday guy. He's going to be your platoon guy. I think at this point his career to three games a week. You know, something like that give a guy a break, you good injury guy locker room guy, and he kind of fits the the Francona model, I feel so I think he goes to Cleveland as a backup getting paid basically nothing also twenty six years old as better career war numbers than Bryce Harper is noted douchebag. Yup. But they always get paid. They do and he's gonna get paid. I think Manny Machado is a better baseball player than Bryce Harper. I don't know if that's a hot take hot. That's hot. Okay. Then then that will be one of the tweets on this. Yeah. I mean, you just look at his numbers. He's a better fielder. And I know he had a really abysmal year either this year last year shortstop when he was like negative forty defensive run save whatever it was he didn't give a shit then when he cared. He was a force. You saw in the playoffs this year when he cared and he came over. He was he was really great in the field. Again. He's a great fielder. He hit for average. And he hits reporter Bryce Harper's never gonna hit for average. He's gonna try and hit for launch angle in home runs. I think Manny Machado will at the end of the day have better numbers than Bryce Harper at the end of his career. Harper may end up with more home runs. But I don't think he'll be by much. And I think that manny's career batting average is going to be fooling around three hundred where I think Harper's would be around seventy to eighty but the baseball. The world is still looking at price. Harper's name. There's looking at that number one overall pick. They're still looking at that home run. He hit in Las Vegas, and they're still looking at the home run derby, and what he's done with the power bat deservedly, so many he's not going to get paid. What what Harper was gonna make? He also lost money this postseason with anyone screamed New York Yankee like Manny Machado. Oh, not since a-rod, and they wrote a straight. So it's just like an era and a-rod was. Yeah traded. And then you know, he was supposed to be Red Sox and all that stuff. But yeah. Now, he's going. He's going to New York. He's going to go play shortstop slash third base in New York. I don't think end to harness Ziming booth the first base because I think he'll be fine defensively. The older play short just because of the fact that DVD's out until what chill. I I mean Cashman saying is gonna play chunk of the Boone said he's gonna play chunk of the year. But he's just lying guys going to be off on time. And he's not going to be a hundred percent when he comes back either. So yeah, he'll push shortstop this year. I met in the future, but they're gonna they're gonna move on from DD. I think Manny goes there. I think they do exactly what Ellie did in they lost Cory Seager? So they place them with a better, Cory Seager. They're gonna lose DeeDee DeeDee is gonna want a lot of money anyway agency, he's gonna come close to twenty million here, you might as well play Machado a little bit extra to happen. Yeah. I mean, if you if you pay them as for commodity better, you better play them, basically. Yeah. Exactly. Now, do I want Manny Machado on my team as in the Boston Red Sox. No, I don't I don't think his attitude work here. I think. I think he'd be called Crawford to point out in Boston or or somebody or Adrian cause any anyone in that trait and that Seth Lula trade. Yeah. You know, I think that's where he would end up, but he's gonna get paid. I think it's their darkhorse. Chicago White Sox. I think the White Sox are gonna open the checkbook for Harper amateur hope to get one. I mean, they technically both. They're going to be bottled abou- payroll. Nobody on that team needs to deal anytime soon that's going to want close to twenty five million. Plus, I think Machado ends up with eight years two hundred thirty two two hundred forty million dollars. So you think he's making that much less than Harper? Yes. And I think before the playoffs and before that nonsense. He would have got paid to sixty five. I think they're gonna pay Harper for his name and because his agents going to demand the Stanton deal. And I think man he's going to be I think name Shaw is going to be really smart here and say you wanna give me how much money to to play baseball. I'll take that. And on top of that he's not going to perform. I don't think I think he's going to just stop caring. I think that's another reason why wouldn't on the team on my team. I think he's gonna turn into a Bobby Bellina. He's gonna turn into assessment as where he takes a lot of time off dogs it up the line care factors. Not there yet he'll help. But I don't think I don't think that it's a good investment for personality wise in the future you've kind of convinced him to go nine nine for two seventy. I still think he's getting thirty million dollars a year. That's great. Yeah. I mean, I think before the playoffs he would've right lowered it a little bit. And I think I think the market in general is going to not going to be as crazy as people thought. I don't think Harper's going to get four hundred fifty. I think it will be a huge step up from last year to where it will be under disappointment. Yeah. And I think the towns better this year too. I mean, you just look at the names on this list. I mean, half of them retired. Donaldson got hurt. But still I mean, you still have Harper. You still have Machado. You still have Dallas kaikal. He's still Daniel Murphy and some more we'll get to but Machado's the other big fish for sure position player wise. There are a few pitchers that are all of a sudden going to be big fish as well. Right. Let's let's jump to one of the more. Interesting aims. I'm going to jump a couple of people on this list. Because I mean, nobody really cares where they go for being honest. No, no, one cares where Thirty-seven-year-old Ian, kin known for Adam dirty. Adam Jones, I'm interested to see where he goes only. Pose? I don't think Cleveland, I think he's gonna wanna cash out moneywise. So I don't think he I don't think Cleveland pays them. I think he goes to a National League team. Like why I think he goes to a team like a washing team. That's going to be rebuilding trying quickly a Washington, a San Diego would be another place. I could see him. Seattle. I could see him in Seattle. I know, you know, we came back, but yet back and Seattle I seem somewhere like that. I don't think he goes to a legitimate contender. And I don't think he goes to a, you know, a a money. I don't think he goes to Oakland, Tampa, Cleveland, right and Washington he wouldn't have to move, basically. Yeah. Yeah. So I I think he ends up over there somewhere kind of like how Ian Desmond signed a similar deal out in Colorado. I think he's gonna end up in one of those. That was five one ten. I think right is he's good. Yeah. Yeah. It's a one year like five to ten million probably for Adam Jones. If that are they gonna join makes ten million a year, and he's probably signs like a three or four million. I think he sounds like three or four years anywhere from thirty to fifty million ten million a year, go play somewhere and make a little money. And and he doesn't really care or unless you know, Baltimore wants to give him the same money happens day there. I think they're kinda dumb with them. And they're moving on from that type of money. So I don't think he goes and gets eighty ninety million. But I think you'll get a decent change the thing about Nelson Cruz real quick. This is just a really interesting one for me. Just he didn't have a bad year last year thirty seven hundred ninety seven hundred still about two fifty. Yep. So and doesn't play the field. Rangers fans knows that know how that ends, but. Yup. Just where does he go is that like a Minnesota because he's not going to go to a contender? Right. No. I don't think he goes to contend there unless he wants take a big pay cut. If he took a big pay cut. He he'd be the perfect Cleveland guy. Yeah. Because they want try move on from. Encarnacion and they got their own issues going on. I don't think he's going to take a huge pay cut though. I don't think he's going to be like, I'll take three million. Like, I still think he makes like eight to ten million next year. He made fourteen million this year. He was almost worth every penny realistically. So I mean, why why I think I think he signed a one year two to year deal anywhere from ten to fifteen million. Again, I think he gets close to what he got. And you could see him back in Texas. You could see him in Minnesota a new manager there, you know, in Rockwall deli. And you know, they could use a little veteran leadership there. They kind of lost a little bit. You know, maybe some guy that can you know, sununu can kind of help them out or say, no, I would say that dude's name kind of help him out a little bit. Oakland would be a good place for him to if you want. He'll take pay-cut. Yeah. I think they give them ten million for a year though, one year deal. I think they would it's interesting Nelson. Cruz has a lot more less than a tank than Adam Jones in Ian Kinzler. Yeah. So I mean, I think it's Minnesota. And I think that's like the perfect fit for him. Just because the fact is they're not contenders. But they still need bodies. Yeah. I agree. I I think it's going to be Minnesota dark horses, Texas because he takes a boatload of money to go back there. Yeah. So it wouldn't surprise me. Especially if beltway spontaneously retires and texts solves neither D H. Exactly. And that would be perfect for everybody involved. All right. Let's go to Dallas kaikal. Yeah. Another big fish year. Probably biggest quote unquote fish for pitchers just because of his name. I don't think he's the best free agent pitcher, no market. That's patrick. I think that's Patrick Corbin and darkhorse Nathan of all de behind them. What? Dow's Kyko not going back to Houston. Not going back to Houston. Not going to take a pay cut. Or you wanna ring? I don't see him going to a legitimate contender. Yeah. This could wind up being like one of those Ha's Moore deals. Yeah. And I think that's exactly what's going to be. I could he's gonna make more he made thirteen and a half million thirteen point two million. He's gonna make north of twenty around that number. And I think he goes to one of those teams, I think he goes to a team that needs some innings, but also needs a guy because he still, you know, going to be he's still going to be three to three basically. Yeah, he's not an ace that Houston media wants you to think he is or baseball writers want you to think he is. He's just not that. You can't be an ace with the three seven can't be an ace with like a two eighty four opponents. Batting average. Yeah. They left these an righties hit them your stuff's not moving anymore. Now. It's not and he's getting older he's going to be thirty two next year. And now you get into David price star, Tori with do you sign the guy that's thirty one thirty two years old to what are you sign them to? I think he makes eighteen to twenty million dollars a year. That's a number. He's in a make. I think he's. Going to sign a four five year deal. I think. New York Yankees. A very good possibility though. Yep. New Yorkers one. He's beating up on New York in the past. So they could want say, hey, can't beat them. Join them situation, we need arms. They need arms badly money. He might be the perfect met. He also could be the perfect met. I think he goes one way or the other. I think it's very pretty car job at this. He's either going to go to a team like New York or team like the dodgers and get paid eighteen to twenty million or team like the cubs not the cubs specifically. But but that mold basically in that mold that is wind now hog, oh, Saint Louis people. Yeah. Saint louis. Those wind now teams that are quote unquote, one guy away, or is it gonna take his money and not care about winning a ring anymore because every one one and go to a San Diego go to a. Seattle go to a. Traffic just the ball team out there trying to like its nationals. Yeah. It'll be a relentlessly for him. I my head. I could already see it. Yeah. So here you're teams if he signs the American League he's going to be a New York Yankee if he's on the nationally. He's gonna sign quote on air quotes big money in Washington with the Washington what I think Washington because. They would actually have a good pitching staff on paper. No, it's too. It's too horses and yet Geos gone now. So, but I mean, you're going on paper if I said this year that the top three is going to be shorter Strasbourg kaikal in the National League. Yeah. Pretty good in the problem is to to good pitchers, right? Isn't enough anymore. It's an arms race you have to have three or four good arms in euro tation in order to compete, you do and you have to have a manager. It's not what a Matic seven eight innings was startling one figured out anymore. It's okay. It's four innings and he's pitching good. But we got a four run lead. I can pitch him in three days, and I got a nasty bullpens pencil. What do I do? Or if you're in the stupid National League, I'm up by two. It's the fourth inning. We got guys on. We got the bases loaded with with one out. Do I pinch it form in the fourth inning? Right. So that's when the managers come into play now as well. It's not just simply have David price. Chris sale and you're gonna win. Andrea. Ten games. It's not it's not simple anymore. Like that. With a I think it's like three for sixty. And I think he's gonna wind up the Yankee, honestly. Yeah. I think he's gonna make eighteen to twenty three or four years around that you know, that ballpark New York if he stays in the American League nationals if he goes to the National League, that's that's a good one. For some reason. I see him in a cardinal uniform to just because they're so desperate for pitching. At this point. That's not bad one. That's good dark horse. I love I love more than just about anybody. And I'm a big Martinez guy. Vence de Leon was excellent in the few times that he got start. But that doesn't scream I'm gonna win the pennant. No, I'm a big Carlos Martinez guys. Well, if the Red Sox ever get his hand on that guy be thrilled. But no that that'd be good darkhorse team for sure the other probably biggest fish for free agency for pitchers is Patrick Corbin. We're going up around a little bit. But since Randy in the category talking about him. Patrick Corcoran had another good year. And he's kind of quiet don't hear much about him. But if. Where you are. It's exactly because I hear so much about Patrick Corbin. Just because like where I'm based. I guess yeah. You're you're in you're in the central. I mean, you're right there and he plays in Arizona. Patrick corporate only made seven point five million this year in my view. The best pitcher on the market. I think I think he is the best pitcher in the mar. Well, actually, how about this. I think he's the most proven pitcher on the market. Yes. I think the best pitcher in the market is Nathan ability because of what he showed this post-season and what he showed when he's finally healthy. But he hasn't done it his whole career corbin's room. Really good. He's thirty on the dot. He only made seven point five million next year. You're going to put a one front of that right away. He's gonna make at least seventeen and a half million next year. New York Yankee. Yep. And I think that's and I think if they don't go the kaikal route, which they shouldn't if on the Yankees, I don't I don't do any with kaikal. I go call Patrick Corbin and say here's four years eighty million dollars compared to New York City. Yeah. Because I think he's worth it. And he'd be oh God. What do you mean? Like is that somebody that deal would look at it and think you know, what God. Yeah. One hundred percent, but he just doesn't have the the cap space right now. Yes. That's what I was about say. Like if you had the space. That's that's the THEO guy through in through. Oh, that's him Darvish she's paying Lester. He's playing paying in Tana. It's just a whole mess. It hayward. I mean, these people so corbin's twenty nine but he's turning thirty for free agency. So it'll be thirty and market value for him his five years at twenty million a year. So we're pretty close. I don't know if he's gonna get that fifth year that's kind of dangerous because we thirty five at the end of that. But. Yeah. Four or five years for twenty million. Absolutely. I mean that's similar to. I mean, tell me these pitchers if he's better than Arrietta, probably not but area. He's yeah. He's close Zimmerman Darvish Portillo leak better than all. I think he's better than all of them. Besides maybe area. And they're all around the same age when they signed they all sign for the same money. Patrick orphans gonna make twenty million dollars a year. I think he ends up in New York City. I think that that's the hands down favor. Yeah. I think it has to be and I can't think of another team. I can I can think. Let's see actually, Los Angeles Dodgers. Yup. Yeah. Just because and actually I think the white socks just because they have so much money. And when you get somebody whose it's their first real contract. Right. Yup. Money makes all the difference. Yep. So I don't think he goes the White Sox because I don't think if I'm Patrick Corbin. Right, right. I'm thirty years old. If I want to win exactly and if it's like ten million dollars twenty million dollars difference. It's a lot of money to me in you. He's gonna make that money in endorsements. He's gonna make that money in bonuses. He's gonna make money. He's gonna make that money on his second contract after this. When he signs like a two year thirty million dollar deal that money will come if I'm him. I'm going to contender. I'm going to the New York Yankees. If not the New York Yankees if he goes National League's datura Saint Louis cardinal pitcher at there. He will be in that will be four by eighty or five hundred one of the two it just depends, basically if they can get to six one twenty honestly if there's opt outs in there is opt out that there's a bidding war. Yeah. If if the Yankees come out and say for eighty in the cardinals come back and say five ten five hundred then the key is going to be six, whatever. So the they'll get it. He'll get his money. Definitely the most proven pitcher in probably the best overall picture on the market for sure though, let's talk about his teammate. And a guy who I almost owned a jersey for just because I I love watching him play so much when he's healthy. AJ pollick? Is going now close. Oh, we're oh. We're not oh cut that. AJ aged Pollick? He's good. He's good at baseball. Yeah. He's phenomenal. And he plays good. He plays. Good enough defense and center field. I think he's more of a left or right fielder depending on the ballpark. There's a couple of places that I think he could go. He could be met which would be very interesting. He could be he played center centerfield for the cardinals. We keep saying the same names over and over again. But these teams that we think that will spend money. Yeah. And that need them. Now don't be surprised if he stays there or if he becomes giant. Now, he's still young giants. The giants like thirty five plus year old the he's too young. I think I think he could end up honestly in Arizona, still his market value is only eleven million a year. Kilo? So you know, you know, he's going to get more than that. Yup. You know, as you have one that. So well. Not necessarily, theoretically, basically he could be looking for years. He could fit in Cleveland, really. Well, if it in Cleveland, really, well and three by thirty three is what is market value is not a bad deal. Really, not a bad deal. And it's not a lot of money. And I was just thinking about their they're like California made too though. All the to be a piece. Really believes in it. He Padre Padre. I think that would be very very interesting, actually, especially if they go out and get somebody else because they have a crap ton of money. The only problem is the hosmer contract looks really bad. So they're going to have to make up for it. Pieces of their you cut out there. Now, your pieces are there. The hosmer deal is basically just what I what I said. That's the only thing that would probably deter them. Yeah. What else though who else? Pittsburgh question. Mark. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think Pittsburgh Martin Polanco and Pollock. Yeah. I think I think Pittsburgh's a good a good chance. I think he stays in the National League to be honest, though, you wanna hear somebody nNcholas I think one of these. I think one of these top twenty winds up in Cincinnati. Is that sound crazy that does sound crazy? Yeah. That sounds really crazy. I don't know if they got nothing literally have nothing, but they're going to pay somebody. Yeah. They might. I think I'm going to go Pollock. I think he's gonna get three or four years at ten or eleven million con around market value. I think he stays in Arizona or he just jumps to ship and goes to Pittsburgh. I think he'd be a good corner outfield, and one of those places I think he's a good good teammate is a solid baseball player, and he could really help out a lineup like Pittsburgh or just stay in Arizona where you know, they were only a few games away from not the vision. They lost the division by nine and a half. But they'd injuries and individuals close all year. I think he is three years eighteen million. And I think he plays for the Colorado Rockies. Wow. That is a hot take. 'cause I just don't see them spending money anymore. I don't either. But I think that it's legit possibility. Can you imagine the number the power numbers from that lineup of that God? Yeah. The balls would. I mean, they already fly out of that. You wanna talk about closers? Yeah. Talk about some closers all over the qualifying offer. If they got it. Do you want to start out with kimbrough, you must sort out with Britain? Let's just start out the big guy. Thirty one years old. Gotta be thirty one years old for his free agency. I think as market values what close twenty million dollars. Yeah. To say how ridiculous ridiculous. It is that they people pay this much for closers in my opinion in today's baseball. Yeah. Yeah. It's wild kimbrough's agent is going full like, you know, balls to the wall here. He said Crin kimbrel deserves money because he's the best closer ball time. He's not even the best closer ever played for San Diego. Like. Yeah. Yeah. You know, if you go by the regular season numbers. He's like the fastest three hundred win three hundred saves in his career. His strikeout numbers are very good. He's on pace to to break saves records and stuff like that. I see what he's reaching four. And you have to say that. Honestly, if you're I mean, you have and with his career you look at it. And you're like well damn like, he got the three hundred stays really fast. But you look at the not what he did for you. But what are you doing now? And he's not pitching one the playoffs. He's tipping his pitches. And he's losing control of his boss of everything fastball. His knuckle curve, he'll be very very good regular season pitcher for you. His arm gets tired. He's a mental case. And he is not proved it in the playoffs once David price finally proved it in the playoffs for you. He did it even Chris sale hurt pitch. Well in the playoffs this year. Not amazing. But good enough. Craig Kimble's had how many years now in the playoffs. Forever forever. Still hasn't proved it still not pitching. Well. Still a little bit of mental case he's with all that everything from wild card games to the almost blowing LDS games. And every time he comes in. You have almost. Yes. Yeah. Heart attack, cried with all that being said Craig Kimble's gonna get twenty million dollars a year and go right back home to Atlanta. We've firm on this one for a while. Yep. There's no other ways going it's four by eighty. He'll get twenty million on the dot. I'd be surprised if you got eighteen or nineteen while not surprised I'm assuming he's agents gonna push for that they have the time and the money down. There will be more wouldn't surprise me. If you've got more, but I think four eighty he's going to Atlanta. I can't think of. Another team we pay him besides the Mets because he's a perfect met. Yeah. I think cardinals pay him too. For some reason they need bullpen help to then you've open up to. But they're not that dumb. No. We think we think we think we think? Yeah. I think Atlanta, though, I think they see I think they're going to the sip on the juice. Gatorade the Kool aid. And they're going to say, well, he was great for us. Look at these regular season numbers are bullpen was atrocious. Probably the reason they lost. They lost. You know, you know, lost out that was that week is part of the lineup. So how they fix it. While you go fix up the nine hole in theoretically tonight, the ninth inning, it Bush's everybody backed by one and you have somebody set there where you say, okay. We just need one lucky arm. You need one Brian brazier. You're one of all you need one Joe Kelley to kind of figure it out as okay now, we will wilpon. All right. So three for sixty for Atlanta for kimbrel. Four for eighty four for eighty. Yup. I think he's getting for years. We've like I said we've been firm on that one basically since what the beginning of the year. Yeah. I. Ever since we've been doing shows together, we've known what was going to happen. How the story basically. Yup. The writings been the law for that regardless if we won the World Series or swept in three by the Yankees it. It didn't matter for that. Another interesting closer Zach Britton. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, former I have a pretty good idea of where I think he's going. Let's hear I don't have to. I don't have to say the accolades for for free. You don't want the MVP. How good of an eighth inning guy. Would he be to get to us? For houston. He'd be. Yeah. He'd be really good. Now, just depends. Whether he wants to be an eighth inning guy or he wants to be dominant. You know, he was an eighth inning guy for the this year in did enough. I guess, but I don't know if he particularly likes the eighth inning. Right. It seems to me that likes to be closer more, but money talks, and you may twelve million dollars this year. Do you think he makes more or less? I think he makes more because I think he's gonna make fifteen sixteen. I think he is too. The only way I don't see it happening is if nobody if he comes out of the gate swing swinging like I want four years eighty million like kimbrel something ridiculous. If he if he moves stocks, basically. Yes. And basically the Yankees or another contender even the Astros say, you kind of had you heard an okay year you completely like ripped up your body. How about one year ten million? Prove it to me. Yeah. We'll give you a little a little faith. We'll give you something. But I'm not giving you three years thirty million yet because he's he's not gonna take little money though. He's not going to Atlanta. He's not. Oh, no. No, he's. Yeah. He's spending that he'll take minimum ten like no minimum twelve million like what he just made this year. Yeah. I think that's the floor. That's the floor. Yeah. One year twelve million dollars on Houston to prove it would be very very reasonable my mind. But I think he does sign. For actual money in in years. You know, he's a Boris guy. So you gotta deal with that his market values weird. Wow. Eight and a half million sorry sticker. Just one manager of the year. Who the Braves manager? Are are you of the NO? Yeah. Craig counsel got robbed. Yeah. I think he did. That's the core went I'm I'm pretty sure he's gonna win. He's he's around two. Very good candidates though. He is he is it was it was a good year for the AL managers the market value for Britain because of his injuries are three years twenty five million to eight and a half million a year. I think he gets a little bit more than that to be honest. And I think he gets ten million a year three by thirty. I think he goes to one of three places you ready for him. Yeah. Houston, really good. The nationals. Yeah. Then because just because they need pitching the powerful bond all over again. Yeah. Probably. Or the Mets. Yeah. We keep saying that. We're not kidding the Mets. So the stupid the Mets the Mets are going to get somebody. But now realistically, I think the I think the nationals really use them. But honestly, a team that absolutely. Could use them is the dodgers. And I think that I think he's going to go either to LA or the nationals those two teams. I think he goes out of the American League. I think he goes over there. I think it's three by thirty to go be the setup man for Janssen or he goes and be the closer slash setup. For would do little. Yeah. I mean, and the funny thing is I think he could be a Philly too. If they if they don't have faith in Anthony Dominquez that. Yeah. I'd like him though. Yeah. And as they should kids good. Yeah. But that's a small bullying. Yeah. Only like ten million is not that bad in three years is fine for them. So I could see that too. I think he ends up going to LA or Washington Adele because both teams are in win now mode and both teams delirious. So the dodgers don't care what they spent for money in the nationals think they're better than they are the nationals are like in their head like we're only one player way. Like, we're fine. They've been that way. Forever rizzo's? Yeah. Pretty much. So that's where I think he goes. Yeah. I think you're right. I mean, we agree on that one. Yeah. I think one of those teams I wanna talk about something. It's a little of a big fan favorite of mine in yours. I think this second baseman DJ lament you. He's like the perfect player in my opinion. He he is. In my opinion, a perfect second baseman. Just I don't need second basements to hit thirty home runs. I really don't. I don't need. I don't want. My second base in hit thirty home runs because then they wind up blood group meadow door. Yeah, I want my second baseman to hits close to three hundred play Gogol defense and pop ten to twenty home runs. And he's a guy though that you can't look at it and go, oh course, no. He's not of course, because he's not launching that is not a home run guy. It's not who he is. He's been he's a second round pick former second round pick. He's gonna be thirty years old with this free agency. His market value is not a lot of money, and he's gonna make a team very very happy his market value, his market values four years fifty million, and I would pay in that in a heartbeat. Oh, yeah. That's a deal. Like he's going to be thirty four at the end of that you got to really good years out of them. Probably third really good year. Honestly, I think I think three years that fourth year, maybe he falls off. But. You look at some of the comparible contracts of his Benz over. I think he's better than zobrist is veterans over. I mean, I'm Scott paid off a playoff success. Yes. He did. And he was thirty four years old when he's on that jed Lowrie little inconsistent. I feel Larry is. Yeah. You just can't stay healthy. Exactly. Daniel murphy. Really good. Yeah. But I, but I think deejays just as good and then Cabrera whose as drubel mean got paid basically for the lack of talent it's base. Exactly. And the Mets. Yeah. So they go he's gonna make someone very happy. I think he might just thank course. Feels to be honest. Yeah. That wouldn't surprise me. At all. I go something very similar to like anywhere from twelve to fifteen million a year that range because at the end of the day doesn't matter if you get fourteen million thirteen million fifteen million once you're in that ballpark. The couple of hundred thousand the the the one and a half million dollar difference. Isn't a huge deal. I think he's going to be a dodger. I mean, I could see it fits losing. Does your do? You really want geeky Hernandez playing every day. Yeah. I mean Corey is gonna come back and play second which I don't think he's going to. I think he should. It'd be good for his health. But he yeah. He's staying shortstop. He's an all star. He's an all star shortstop. Why would you move? Now. Why would you even bother with that? But does does Atlanta need a second baseman? No, always. Here's a good one. The brew crew. Yeah. Who played second base this year. Travis shaw. That's right. That's right. They moved him over. I don't think they're gonna keep Dhaka's. Nah. I don't think. So either I think I try to get paid after his with last year. Yeah. I think so too. So moves Dhaka's leaves you move back to third you put DJ net lineup and that infield. You actually add a little defense into the infield and him in on the top of that lineup with Kane and Galar Shaw. Yelich? That's that's nasty. Yeah. They could use them. I think I think he ends up either staying in Colorado because I I honestly think he just end up there if not Colorado, I think he goes to a team like a big win it now team a Milwaukee. You know, the cubs would be a team like that that same kind of model but Colorado's right there. You know, they easily could have made a run this year. They just didn't get hot at the right time. So they Colorado or or Milwaukee where he goes, I think he stays in National League though. I think I think he's a better National League player than American League. And look at the American League not a lot of people need second basements. That are contenders navy. Minnesota goes with that because they need a second baseman. They need a second baseman. And I think that I think that they're gonna lay off a lit