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Danica Patrick: World-Renowned Retired Race Car Driver and Entrepreneur | #ThePlaybook 271

The Playbook

23:44 min | 4 months ago

Danica Patrick: World-Renowned Retired Race Car Driver and Entrepreneur | #ThePlaybook 271

"On this episode of the Playbook Have Danika Patrick World renowned retired race car. Driver and Moore, and we are going to talk about the purpose and the passion that make that perfect blend especially the new Danika Rosa wine, and how she continues to infuse that purpose into her business. Join me for all this and more on the playbook. This is entrepreneurs the playbook. Each week I bring you. Some of the greatest athletes celebrities and entrepreneurs to talk about their personal and professional playbook to success, and what made them champions on the field and in the boardroom. I'm your host David Meltzer this day melted with entrepreneurs, the playbook and I have the very first two time guests over four hundred episodes, and it has to be my favorite Danika Patrick. Who is the perfect blend? And now she has the perfect one denic Arosa. Welcome back to the playbook. I've never said that before. Thanks for coming on. Yeah, thank you. So the blend I wanNA talk about first goes one that you and I kind of shares this blend of intensity and allowance, and it's a new type of lifestyle for me to be super intense to get out of my own way or superintendent to clear the connection to this great source of light love and and lessons that I feel what have been some of the lessons that you've learned in order to make this transition in blending. You're one of the most intense leads that I've ever met into now. This peaceful I call you your ferocious Buddha. And how? Able I'll be able to blend that ferociousness with the Buddha sense of neutrality and peace. You know. Being able to have an acceptance that everything is kind of happening four you not to you and being able to be more of the observer of your life, instead of the critic and the judge and the victim is kind of saying. How did I bring this on? Or what can I learn from this or looking at the good moments as being? Wow, I'm I'm so grateful that The no the hard work is off. And how can I help people as well, and how can I use my platform for good, and so having as you well know having that deeper deeper layer of purpose in a company as opposed to just make money? It's like no is. It's a help people as it to. Express your creativity what is it so having that deeper layer of purpose or vote for company or Business or project as well as than being able to observe all of the highs and lows of it all to understand that it's trying to teach me something. It's giving me something back to the hard work, and that that what doesn't kill you makes you stronger, so a of people don't know that in the racing in this border raising how important your team is, and I know in the entrepreneurial world. It's quite obvious that you have to surround yourself with the right people and the right ideas. What are some of the people that you look for? To surround yourself with and more importantly either values ideas that are so important to you that you want to have on your team. Senior find people that are passionate and also people that I think somebody also look at a job as a nine to five is also a really good on someone someone that doesn't not respond just because it's nighttime or someone that doesn't doesn't respond to us because it's a weekend, but when you can find people. That are willing to do it because they love it and they do it. They do whatever it takes to get the job done i. think are really good signs as to the quality and the You know just the value that they're gonNA. Have for you and then beyond that it's just a connection, right? You just meet someone and you click and you have good conversation and it's easy and. Just like him. I think you I think when you you meet somebody that you work with you. Just I saw have to like them, and then see how they operate in the early stages of establishing some kind of relationship and and. Yeah, I think, then you're on track, and then at the end of the day. Sometimes somebody sometimes things start with somebody in you know. With all best intentions in betting out, someone is best as you possibly can, and it just doesn't work, and that's just business. In. Have you had to separate yourself from or fire? Anyone within either the racing team or your team now, yeah. And what what's I think for me? That was always the most difficult thing. Lieutenant. Fire friendly here. That I see fire friends now, which is really hard I literally I get a lot of shipboard from people. Because like what do you mean? Fire friends like if somebody bleeds me I literally I have to have people around me that feed me and I can. Literally they will bring me down. Maybe it's scars from my past, but I've learned I'm better off telling someone this is about me. I know this is all about me. This is about you, but I can't be around anymore. I don't break up with somebody this, isn't you the? But at the end of the day sometimes it is. I had to fire. Were my parents own by met your mom? She seems like she's okay with it. Yeah, it's all good, but there was a wave of rough pattern, and so I would say in fact, my advice would always be two people. If you can avoid working with your family, it's best. There's no other way. Again kind of like an early stage relationship with someone that you hire you think it's all going to be great, and so with from my specific situation, which I think is a lot of times, the situation for for young people, especially, probably in more athlete category are like that kind of world, where there's a natural break in the relationship, and there's also an understanding for the job that's being done because obviously they did it with you since you're a kid, but if you cannot work with families best, but but it really in especially in the world is four, I think sometimes it can be hard. Because who do you trust, right? Work go and so you know having those probably leads to the next, really most important element. I think with. Anyone that you work with is this immediate level of honesty and transparency so that there's no standard set where we don't have conflict You really you, you start off. You don't have her off there, but you know if there's something that bothers you from the beat very beginning, you mentioned right or they then you give them the comfort to mentioned it to you Just had like a little situation happened with mine near and dear or Die Hayley and she. You know this is our level transparency and I even thought early to ask for this, but she had an office on her on a reply for an email and you know goes for like ten days 'cause we're about to the weekend, and then we're taking a trip together. And then there's another weekend right after and I get it, but it just somehow rose the wrong way and so. I asked her if she would take it off. And she's been with me for way over a decade and so having that transparency entrust means that you know that someone's not GonNa fire you because of one little thing, because if you wait too long to critique or say something I think that can lead to Get to a place where it's kind of like if you don't remember someone's name, and you forget to ask too early in the in the beginning of knowing them, and then all the sudden like way down the line. You're like I can't ask now. Right off the Bat, those guys in industry, too, because I've been called coach more times like I know those guys at literally especially when I ran like Lee Steinberg or is moon's partner, and everybody knows lear Warren, so I was kind of like their guy, so they never listen to my name, so it'd be like Hey, coach, you know hit and you like come on Dude I've known you for eleven years, and you haven't even looked and I. It's not like I have a weird name. Right Davis. To hold his most biblical name there is. It does get difficult, also patients, wise and I think you're you're rider. Haley story is very indicative of people like you and I that we want fast and hard, and now we're willing. You're here the day before a holiday doing this, you know promoting your great wine and a lot of people want right. They would think they were above that and especially. If there was technical difficulties you had to call back in, you would definitely get Outta here. And we're trying to get into the fourth of July we are the holiday weekend. You know hopefully a couple of glasses while ready, the interview will be better. But how do we calm ourselves down on the patient side of not expecting others treating others better than we treat ourselves because I find I get in trouble with my employees, because I'm seven days a week right I. Don't believe in work I believe in activity I. I get paid for I. Love what I do and I just had to let a young lady go because she was invalid. You'll have to leave it for. She has another job and weekends were off limits, but she was a PR person like you're sending up speeches on the weekend for me I need I need you. And she was young and she didn't get it like well. You know that's a lot of hours. It. Doesn't have a clock for their job and it just the job is whatever it takes to get. It done is so important. What are your I? Mean when you look at someone would when you're trying to find people to work with for projects or hiring for something you look for the diversity is gratitude because gratitude gives if they're looking for the good stuff, the light, the love and the lessons and things I know I have somebody I can really work with and then I. Look for forgiving people so I'll ask him you know what's the worst thing someone's done to you and. And then ask them if they forgave them or Y, and then I also even more. POW is accountability. I'm sure you'll get this. You know being in your position would drives me nuts as people that go to blame same and justification, and so I'll ask an interview I'll say tell me the worst thing that's happened to you and who's accountable for it and bill if they go on and on and on about how this person screw them over there out if they're kind of blending it that why made some mistakes and they may I'm I'm fine with that, but if someone says. Hey I ask myself. What did I do to attract this to myself? But what am I supposed to learn from it? I'll literally hire on the spot so then the last one is, that must be what I can't be. I try to see in sports or their previous curricular 's or they're. They're just some people that must be what they can be so it's not even ask that they would be available you'll. You'll, it's the die. Haley's of the world who I know or even Kathy or PR. They're the people that you get emails at three in the morning, and it's like okay. We're on the same boat, and so those are the four things gratitude, forgiveness accountability, and that must be what we can be attitude, and it's harder and harder to find in younger people today off four of those things, but they're out there. It's always using. It's always you're always been hard to find her. Do you think it's harder now? I think it's always been the thing that makes it a little bit harder. Now as we went for thirteen years of really good economic growth, so we've spoiled. Entitlement in the helicopter. I don't buy into any of that man. There's some really hard hitting kids out there, but no matter what everyone's had that leverage. These young people thirty five, and under I'll just get another job, and now they're in a whole new boat, right? It's like you are grateful for any job that you can get things changed in a day for you and we went from. You know the best employment numbers ever into depression like employment numbers and I think that will change a lot of people's perspectives, really quickly someone that knows how to ride the storm out. Some knows someone has like like we've talked about many times. Someone that has that deeper meaning to why they are somewhere instead of just the money or you know something Prestige Your Attention, or something like that when they have like a deeper wholesome meaning to why they're doing a job. I think that's really important. That kind of feeds into this idea that you ride out a storm right, because then you know why you're still there, but if you only are there for money, and you think something's going wrong when you'd be like I, but when you're there because. Because you believe in a product or you believe in this person's goal in their values than you stay in your ride it out, and now you become a team now you come out the other side like look what we just did. We got through that we can get through anything and but unless they're invested like that then they don't know how red storm out. That's right in Indiana right now. It's Bobby Knight Lesson right when they ask them about when he got to championships. WHO's announce about how we got here that whole meaning and purpose behind it. What what do you see for? You is the meaning of Danika rose wine. For example you know what meaning and purpose have you given behind the company and you're bender your venture now into this. You know pretty crowded space, but. Yeah. I still I think we've got a leg up on a beautiful bottle I think that'll help in an incredible flavor, but yes, let me get to the All. It's I. Mean it's a great product and it always has to be that I remember when I interviewed John Hall Jewelry From Paul Mitchell and petroleum and other companies, and he said you need to be in the reordering business. That is the only business you should try and be in be involved in the re ordering. Now's like. Wow, that's great advice. So the product of Erupted because John Paul told me in the same sentence. I said so reordering as was the key to that he said owning the customer is that if you own the customer reorder and the really wise guys you know, but anyway go ahead. You were saying. An incredible guy I loved him he was. Obviously I was so grateful for you. To and you guys are like the top level like ones that when I'm in the conversation with you guys I'm enthralled like time is gone so but but the reordering business so. The, the product has the Stanford South, but then of course you, you know the core of it which I have to backtrack to why I started SOM-, which is my wind project that's been going on for eleven years and so I bought a property Napa back in two thousand nine and and planted a vineyard, and finally made some wine that was finally for sale in two thousand, seventeen over two, thousand, nine to two, thousand seventeen. It was still But it's it's my baby I mean it started from absolutely nothing at literally started from a dream I was like earn are an idea, a a dream scenario where I was. Looking down, look down the valley standing swirling glass of white wine at Contessa and was like ten in the morning. The fall was pulling back down into San Francisco I'm looking looking south and unlike. Man. I want to have something like this some day, and then I thought I don't have fifty million dollars yet. I literally thought yet my head. And then I realized that you didn't need to buy something that was already established in. You could buy landon than you could than you. Could custom crush it, so that's my process right now. but it was always. To the real reason, because if it was about making money. Item and gone a long time ago. Because I've spent so much money. It was because I believed in this lifestyle this This vibe this energy this this energy of creating something it being valuable and rare. Never GonNa make that vintage again. It's the effort that goes into each vintage, and then of course at the at the root of all of it, which is where it gets into all the people including myself is. Sitting there and enjoying that bottle of wine with you know friends, family loved ones out of party whatever it may be, and you know taking your device than getting rid of it and enjoying that that company that that Camaraderie that those stories in a in the old school way that we're used to actually talk to each other. We know how to communicate, but it's those moments. It's like I want the wind to facilitate those memories, those moments and memories that happen when you connect, and so for me. The wine is about 'cause I'm all. My brands always have this. Core of wellness like mental physical wellness, whether it's working out food or wine so for me. The wine has a lot to do with mental wellness. Connecting in you know I think that they talk about the blue zones even of the world being about people gathering together in having community, so it's about has generating that connection of community around you it so so that to me is the core purpose of all wine like it for myself to last night I'm sitting there, and I'm making him being artsy-craftsy, and so I said the Mama's like I'd want have some wine tonight. Do a some, so we sat there, and we just kind of you know. Craft a little bit together in hung out and drank some wine. It's like for me. That was just and then the conversation flows a little extra and. Wonderful. Lasting I always talk about finding the light love and the lessons and everything and I love. We've been enthralling member on the set. We did our first interview and we're both trying to kick us off to get started filming again. We're GONNA. Shut up, we're we're on route Loubier but this is the last. I look for light love and lessons in people as well and I would love to tell me if I have this right about you obviously very positive. You have this unbelievable powerful source within you, but the lesson that I keep hearing from the time. You were a little girl to that story about I'm standing contest I. Go now I can do this. Is that and I? Try to teach people this you cannot data. Patrick cannot out ask the universe like you're such a good. Good Askar US you. You think so big that there's nothing you know whether I hope. People realize you know you're some race car driver and you're sitting at Contessa, most people and there's millions that go through there and they love their. Why one of my favorites, but I've instead I asked big. Do the reverse, but I'd sit there going. Yeah, this is all me someday, and you manifested it, and it's so amazing. What does that mean to you? You can't out ask the universe. I think it's I'm going to hear that I think that's. The lesson in school about that like this is not something that we're taught. We're taught. Limits and boundaries were top fitting into boxes, and you know it's not productive for a potential human beings So you know for me, I would I I get excited and sad that that's such A. Foreign concept to people So I will say because I think people can understand that concept a little bit better now, but here's the here's the real magic in. Feeling like I want to have something like this someday. Is You need to really run down that peer. Visualize it you need to want it. You need to love it. You need to see it feel it tasted, but the it's the most important thing is that you feel like it's possible. Right, you feel it right because there's a lot of things you can save like I. Want this and you're like. That's not gonNA happen. Right Guy Think I wanna Doug, a basketball and I'm like that's not. GonNa Happen. And maybe that can't or maybe a can. You know what I mean. I really think all I really do believe that the universe can deliver you anything that you really really walk, but you know we've been programmed on so many levels in so many ways to. Have Boundaries and limits to what's possible and so. Maybe, I can dunk a basketball if I believe I don't believe it. People, can you say after you say? One of those dreams were? Make your big ass. Can you say with full sincerity? It's done it's done instead. I saw like in my mind. I don't go basketball. I can't really get to that point. People be happy. I can say it's done. Is I know exactly how to do that? And I know how to make tons of money, and you know I know that we haven't even seen your potential yet. I can't wait to get my first case. Denecker Rosaiah by the way I know I've ordered it. They said it's coming. Your address. The, yeah, that's the magic. The magic is like really feeling like whether it's a job or a person or Whatever it is, you have to feel like you can not only see visualize it, but like you deserve it and you hand, and so that like heart brain coke Herranz of like I get I, feel it is the magic. It's not just thinking it's thinking feeling it, and then in between for me is where I really visualize it, and then once you start visualizing it then. Like what would be called dream into it then all of a sudden you get excited about and when you start to get excited about something really wanted field tangible quality up, and then you can start to feel it. Happens in a completely different way than you think it will. Here's the thing. Here's the really crazy thing about the way that the universe works and delivers things to you is that it can be extremely fast. Like really fast, and it can also take decades. I'm. Prepared for the touch favor so rapid accurate manifestation, and I've manifested you somehow in my life and your great blessing before the holiday I know. Danika rose as going to be super successful anything. I can do as well please everyone, give it a try. You will not be disappointed just like you never are with Antica Patrick. Thank you so much. The legend Danika Patrick here with Dave meltzer entrepreneurs the playbook by hope. You enjoyed this week's episode of the playbook as much as me on a personal note, I just wanted to thank everyone for making the playbook such a success. Don't forget to continue it by sharing subscribing and listening to your favorite episodes, Dave Meltzer with the playbook.

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Danika Miller on a Special Photo and Other Signs She's Received from Her Brother

Signs From The Other Side with Fern Ronay

36:51 min | 1 year ago

Danika Miller on a Special Photo and Other Signs She's Received from Her Brother

"Welcome to signs from the other side with fern renee I'm your host burn roadway and this is the place to share stories of signs and messages received from the other side before we get to the show today just a quick and friendly reminder that if you would like to hear more episodes of sides from the other side please be sure to subscribe in Apple. Podcasts maybe also tell a friend thank you so much for listening onto the show two and a half weeks ago. Damage Miller shared a photo on twitter and said this is one of the very few pictures I have taken with both of my parents since my brother passed away seven years ago and look who decided to show up for the family photo. Can we all just believe that heaven is real in angels exist in the photo you can see Damacus? Mom Danika her dad and a light shine down as if to say. See this perfect spot right here. That's for me. That's where I'm standing. I'm still with you. I'm still part of this family. Tanaka's tweet was liked over. Eighty eight thousand times in re tweeted over forty seven hundred times and when I reached out to her to come on this podcast. She graciously agreed Danika. Hi How are you good? How are you thank you again so much for doing this? Absolutely I'm happy to your tweet touch so many people. I'm guessing you weren't expecting that. No not at all not at all I I really just shared it for. You know my friends and family that follow me and yeah it just blew up and I had no anticipation of that happening. It's an incredible photo. Did you notice the light right away? Yeah actually still when we were taking the picture like I said. I don't have many pictures with my mom and dad so we went to slippery rock homecoming. That's where both my brother and I went to college. And interestingly my brother actually played football for slippery rock The right before he passed so he started as a true freshman. And my family. And I've just always felt closer to him when we go there and he was older than me so I kind of followed in his footsteps after he passed and I ended up going to The Barack as well so we were there for the homecoming and I asked my friend. Can you take a picture of my parents than me? You know. We don't get pictures together? Often she was trying to take photo and as she was taking it she was like. There's a light in the picture. You guys moving down a little bit to get this laid out the picture and I was like. Yeah sure so. We actually moved and she was like it was the craziest thing it was like the light moved with. You was like y'all move down. She was like it just like followed along your dad's shoulder so Yeah so then afterwards. Yeah we took that picture and it was. Yeah it was just we looked at it and I was like I knew instantly I was just like it's like he's right there with us standing exactly where he's supposed to And just being in a place where you know we feel closer to him and we were watching his team play and they you know they always do a good job of making us feel so loved and included. It's kind of meant to be you know so I was telling you earlier that I was the I I do my research and you know you have to be a bit of an Internet Stalker so I was so far back on your instagram and I was like I'm like skinny. Show up on Thanksgiving to the family. 'cause I just love this family? Mom and dad seems to the way you write about them. It is so sweet. It's obvious that you're very close and it seems like you were so close with Derek instill a text from him one of your birthdays. That was so cute and showed your closeness. Were you very close growing up? How many years apart are you? We're three years apart but two grades Yeah so we yes. We were so close growing up. I mean I followed in his footsteps in everything that he did so like when it came to sports we were both athletes throughout our elementary junior high and high school so any sport than he would try. I would try to when his friends over. I always be running and trying to keep up with the boys you know the the most I would say. It's a blessing and a curse but we were definitely our closest right before he passed because he was twenty. I was seventeen. It was like we were getting older. We kind of grew out of that phase where you now have they buy a little bit and you know they got on each other's nerves and and my brother would constantly like play tricks on you play jokes on me and You know I was always so annoyed but yeah that was obviously like when we were in in high school and stuff but when he named away to college you know I would just like. Oh my gosh I missed him so much and he couldn't come home often because like I said he played football so Yeah but when I could see him and when he was home for that summer Right before he passed we were we were so close which is a blessing and a curse. It's such a blessing because you know either way like I got to spend that that special time with him and you know grow that bond even more before he passed but then it it almost makes it. You know even harder to have lost my best friend and brother all in one but signs have you received. I feel like I've received so many Though just like little things that you know I kind of a tribute to him would be like cardinals and stuff like that but but even like deeper than that I was on my birthday and I was. I was walking in our cafeteria getting my lunch and at slippery rock and there was nobody around me like no one around me and I felt a tap on my shoulder and I turned around and like I said there was nobody there. So what's wrong physical touch that like? I attribute it to him because there wasn't anyone around me at all. I felt the crap so strongly that I turned around to say like talking to me. He wants to say something and was going around me. It's so that it was on my birthday. Yeah exactly that's exactly what I was just GonNa say we always say on this show? You know something happens and you're like could it be and then there's always something to to validate it like it's a special date or it's it's always something like they come in twos to say like if incase. Uber wondering if is this is the confirmation. I'm wishing you a happy birthday. Yes exactly and you know. I've had dreams about him. That are just still real and I. I think I mentioned this. You know I had a lot of backlash on my tweet saying like you know. It's a ray of light it you know. It's just the glare from the camera and I'm like you know. I understand that people have their own beliefs. You know that may be different from mine but if this is what gives me peace and this is what gives me comfort. I'm going to believe it. You know it's it's how I got through and you know there's certain things that have happened to me as far as signs dreams that I don't even second guess it anymore. I'm like Oh that was him. That was definitely him. It's coral and though you know dreams that I've had of him where he just talked to me and had conversations with me about current things going on in my life and you know just letting me know that he's okay does Does it feel real like they say the difference between a dream and visit dreams kind of had that underwater feeling? And it's kind of like weird things happen and it feels like not tactile but if it's a visit it feels tactile like you could touch them. You could smell them. You could hear the yeah. Yeah and see that. I've had dreams where he wasn't speaking to me me almost like I read his mind like I knew exactly what he was telling me. Exactly what I'm saying the rather dreams where I could hear his voice fully I've given him hooks and they felt so real and so like solid and like it was no lifelike and they're just they're so comforting and I feel like in every dream. He has some kind of underlying message that he's telling me and it's just so special another thing that happened to me. This is probably one of the biggest things that had happened to. The this was two years ago I was. I woke up in the morning and was feeling very anxious about something that was going on in my life. I was sad I was missing my brother a lot and a lot of times when I'm going through something even when you know my brother was still alive. He used the person that I would talk to. 'cause WE WERE LIKE. I said Super Close and would share those things with each other so now that he's gone. I don't let that you know. Take Away I. I still talk to him when when I'm going through something and on that morning particularly I was talking to him out loud and I was like you know it's not fair that your God and I wish you were here. You know this hard for me what I was going through and I was just talking to him and letting him know that I loved him and Tim and I got him car. Probably two minutes after this and opened up my garage door and as I was backing out of my garage my sensor on my car started beeping. I looked in my rear view mirror and I saw him across the back of my car. It was seven in the morning so I saw that in my rear view mirror off. Yeah my sensor went off so I immediately looked at my backup camera and I saw a you know like a body walking past and I looked up in my rear view mirror and you know even the change of my eyes for my backup camera up to my rear view mirror. I still saw like the person so I backed the whole way out and once again there was nobody there and like I said it was seven in the morning like and nobody just walks through my front yard or to my house. You know just knowing knowing what I saw was him and I didn't see his his full face. I saw his side profile and he was like. I said he was walking. You know right past the back of my car His hands were in his pocket. He was wearing a maroon buddy gray sweatpants and he has a Maroon. Hoodie that we you know. We still have of his It works like that. Exact now has His hands were in his pocket. His hood was up and I could just see like part of his face and his hair was a little bit longer like it was when he was a junior in high school He had like longer shaggy hair. And what's weird is when I dream about him. He usually has that longer hair. Oh I mean right yeah But that's what he had was longer shaggy hair and I just knew the second that I saw him that it was him and like my heart. Just dropped my stomach and he was gone and yeah but it was just one of those things where like I didn't even second guess myself I was just like. Oh my gosh there. He is and I backed out and I was like looking for him and there is nothing else though. Yeah but that's another way of saying of him saying I'm here and I heard you and it. You know the way different signs. Come through the fact that your brother and sister and he kind of teased you growing up tap on the shoulder. This walking pass making the Sensor. Go off is these are kind of. They're kind of things brother would do to make himself known that I'm here with you. Absolutely I think another thing this is just you know. I'm not this one. I'm not so sure of but I just attributed to him. Was you know I was going through a difficult time and talking to him once again and on my drive? I saw cardinal and I was just like I was like Oh maybe maybe that same showing me as time. Because I've heard you know people Martin Luther butterflies just like attributes. These certain things but I was in such a negative mindset. That was just like you know that could have been him. But it's probably not and then I continued driving driving to the gym and when I got to the gym. I pulled up my instagram. And the first thing that popped up on my feed. Was this message. I it was from one of those like Are Drake or That rainbow salt girl. I don't know if you if you follow them. But they host these like racial close Lying it was like it was just. It was just like a written message that said like you know. I hope that you're you know you're living your life to the fullest and that you're happy I know what it's like to be sad Out My brother. I don't know if you who's gathered them from nanogram he. He passed away from suicide. So you know I know what it's like to be sad. You know I want you to be happy and live your life to the fullest like you're beautiful and like all of these things and it does. I know these words aren't coming from me. You know. I hope that you get the message type of thing and it was like. I wish I had the full like transcribed thing in front of me so that I could tell you but it was just like the timing the me being sad talking to him and it was. Just you know something that another source posted. But how it said Reich. I know these words are coming from me but I hope you received this message type. Yeah the perfect man and it was like the perfect message of like. I just want us to be happy and live your life to the fullest at a time that I was feeling very low so wa it correlated so it was me. And just like a little yeah. It's so interesting that again it was kind of two things happening like you were a huddle now. It could be couldn't be and then you got kind of this confirmation that that was speaking as if it was directly from him and I always say coins are kind of like falling in love like you just when you know you know you know that. That was him behind the car. And this message was the confirmation the cardinal speaking to you and want you to to just live. It's so interesting. After my cousin died my mom was talking to her. Kind of inner head. And she's like what he wants to do Jamie and she walked into work and there was a sign that said live. I think it said just relive that gives me chills while. Oh Yeah when you know you know when I do exactly yeah thinking. There's been many things that have you know have occurred to me over over the seventy there. Yeah these are signs Mean and now in addition to that like I've I've seen psychics. Some people believe in that some people don't and like I said I just kind of go for what gives me peace And and I feel like in that way I've received so many answers from him and Yeah because you know like I said He. He committed suicide but we didn't know he was depressed until two weeks before it happened Because he was. You know my Lee Happy. You know wants to make sure everybody else okay. Just a charming loving person And an athlete like you just never would see him not be strong and you know I feel like he put on this persona when he was struggling and my family didn't know like I said until like about two weeks before he passed that he was depressed and as soon as they found out they went and got him hope and he went on medication. And and you know from the the psychics that I've seen without giving them anything they bring up the medication They they mentioned about how you know. He says this is an accident. I didn't want to do this. You know Just not pages of things they you know they give you peace and others you know they can describe exactly how he is as a person without ever saying anything and it's just those people have such a guest can help her by other people. Peace and healing so yeah. I found the article about you from your area and it talks about how you were the recipient of the scholarship named after your brother and then they interviewed your friends. Your teammates your mom. Your Dad in everyone was quoted as saying how strong you were since your brother's passing. Did you get therapy right away? What help to be able to lift yourself because you were so young. Yeah I was so young I honestly like I just power prayer Just because I don't know how I don't know how we did it like I have no idea how I had the ability to be that strong I just knew I had to be I think that you know there were times where I had this weakness You know have my my had moments of weakness where but those are usually behind closed doors. I felt like I'm the only child now and I have to be strong for my parents and I think at the ages seventeen to I struggled with realizing that just because my parents my parents lost their son and I locked my brother and we lost the same person that losses still different for each of us because you know that their son and I didn't think I really. I don't think I realized that until I have done but you know I was just kind of forced I feel like I was forced to be strong. Not even force. No one made me just. I just felt the heated. Yeah I just felt the need to do that and I knew that that's what my brother needed from me to. Just be be Iraq. Now that he's gone and you know support my parents through that and I had friends I had friends and family who were supportive of me as well and I think that that's what helps so much. Was you know everyone lending their support? It just helps me to be strong and You know I had a lot of people sending me messages like it's okay to cry. It's okay to be weak. And you know you just never know how you're going to handle something like that. But Yeah. Like how different wacked. Yeah it is it is but I just for me you know. I never expected this to happen and I never had time to think. How am I going to act in this situation? It's it was like an autopilot. I'm GonNa be strong and what I have to do. So it was subconscious out of love for your parents almost like you had to absolutely. Yeah Yeah but I think it was to a point kind of you know strange in a way because yeah it was just like this. This odd strengths. That like you know this is still my brother and I still love him and you know and I think part of me being strong had to do with knowing how he passed not wanting to judge him for it. Yeah you know and and you even if I didn't understand it. It was just not wanting to make it look like I love them any less absolutely absolutely. It's so interesting. We don't judge people for getting cancer and and dying from that so if someone yeah like I say my father I was GONNA use my father's an example. But he has type two diabetes. No-one judges at choose to to have this issue. So no one should judge someone for yeah for for a disease of the brain and then I always say my father having type two diabetes doesn't make him acts differently but if he had a disease of the brain it would make act differently and you can by the same token you just can't judge a person for the disease that they've been unlucky enough to have inherited. Yes exactly exactly. Yeah and I heard People say that to me so many times and each time just like validates. The comfort of you know being understood because I think mental illness is such a it is there. There's such a stigma around it. That people don't like it said has such a negative connotation but like he's nuts just like cancer it's just like a heart disease diabetes. You know you can't help what you were given and tackle that it. Is You comfort when you when you think of it in that way? We've come so far but I feel like we still have so so much further to go understanding what you give to someone who loses a sibling. Because it's very different than other kinds of of loss. It is very different because I feel like some time. There's a there is something that people say about when he was a sibling. It's kind of like you're the one that's lost And the books because a lot of people focus on you know the parents losing a child and you know but as siblings you know we. We grew up. Those were our first best friends. Those were the people we you know we grew as we ran with our first friends in life and some advice that I would give and now it. It is difficult and you do have to adapt to this new normal of not having that person with you every single day and it is hard and it is challenging but I hate to say it but it really does get better and they're always with you and they're always with you Okay said there are times where I can just talk to my brother. And he'll show me that he's there and and that's what's so special and I know some people are skeptical that okay. You just have to do what you need to do for you. And not moment and find what gives you peace. And what's going to help you move forward because there's really no you know no going back. It's like this is your new reality that you have no choice but to stay said and it's so sad and it's so hard but you're gonNa make it through and just keeping memory alive keeping their you know doing what you can to honor them And always making them a part of your life like when I got married I had a seat for my brother at my wedding. And Yeah just we did all the same things we did for everybody else in our wedding and we just made sure that he had a place and I mean that was our ray honoring him and you know allowing welcoming him to be a part of it and As far as my life purpose goes I've kind of you know. My brother's passing has played such an impact on me that I'm actually going on to be a counselor for school children and mental health as well so yeah so that is like that for me is is my way of honoring him. But it's also something that I want to do. I want to be able to help people. How amazing it you know. It's interesting I look at their. You know social media so deceiving but I look at your instagram. And you've gone onto graduate college and and Mary. He seems like a great guy. He's adorable you're an adorable couple. Have Beautiful Baby. You seem to have a lot of friends you're living. You're living your best life and I feel like sometimes. When people lose a sibling they almost feel guilty having these milestones and living a good life. But I feel like you've inherently understand that that's what he wants for you yes see. I did struggle with that a lot in the beach interested. I struggled with that a lot in the beginning that you know I have to. I've been through so much since my brother has passed bars graduate in college. Getting engage getting married having a baby that has all happened for me and a man of seven years that he passed so all of those things when they happened. I know like you know when I found out I was pregnant. That was so hard on me that he's not going to be here for the men. Then I reversed the situation is. I'm not gonNA see him have a baby. I'm not going to be an aunt to his children. I'm not going to see him get married. And it is hard when you look at it that way but like you said he wouldn't want me to stop living my life because you can't and he's right there along with me. Mama journey so yeah And the thing was social media is it is so funny Social Media we definitely highlight our lives in mind. We want people to see it and I've read. I think I started struggling with image. And how am I going to carry myself because of social media after my brother passed away You know when he passed I gained so many followers on social media. People who were just curious kind of put wonder microscope of you know that's how I felt at least under a microscope of wonder how she's doing you know is she gonna be sad is she. Going to fail. Is She gonNA share this about her brother. I WanNa know you know a lot of that came and I'm not saying it didn't come from caring individual too and you just want to deport me but it could feel like. I gained a lot of attention based on that and Yeah like a semi small town and a lot of people know my family and they know my brother and my brother was like I said a well-known athlete and a popular kid and had a lot of friends and he passed all a lot of people kind of turned to me and wanted to see what my life was going to be like and I think kind of got lost in trying to uphold this image of perfect and yeah and then my other advice to you know other people who've lost siblings. You don't have to be our buddy if you don't have to be perfect and you don't have to uphold this perfect image. You know just because I went my one struggle of losing my brother. I have many more struggles than my life but sometimes social media. We just don't use to show them. Yeah our news. Yeah Yeah but social is such a great outlet though to to share about your loved ones and and you know remember them and Yes yes. See that support and feedback from from people as well so social media has also blessing and agree. I think so too I think so too. I think it helps a lot of people see like if if they lost like will. I ever be able to laugh again. Ever be able to have fun again and then they see you and like yes. It's okay to move on. I think it's I think it can give people a lot of comfort too. Yeah it has at the inbound absolutely and like you said like it it it can be a struggle. I think there were moments where I'm like. I feel so selfish for wanting to have fun especially after he passed like I. I can't laugh. I can't I can't go out with friends. It's things that you need unite laughter and it may feel audit. I because how can I last mile and such a difficult time but you need those things and you need your friends and you need your support system and you know you? Can't nobody knows how to grieve. It's so personal for everyone. I would never tell someone how to you know not to use gross examples. But this is like it's so personal. I would never tell someone how to go to the bathroom or how to have sex with their significant other. I reme- had agree. It's so personal. Exactly it is so personal and and it's a journey for everyone and some maybe longer some may take longer than others may not even choose to grieve. I know my mother asked me. You know today. New Therapy right away. No I didn't And I know my mom had said to me multiple times in those first years of like Danika unique to grief. You need degrees. You're just you're voiding. I feel like you're avoiding. You're avoiding your voiding. And she you know she hurt her then right she could have been right then. I was avoiding it. I but I don't feel like avoiding the right where it because I was still remember him and talk to him and feel him around me and you know I still cry about him behind closed doors but I think mom really felt like I wasn't grieving and you know there's been families in my area where I've seen lose their siblings and You know and I don't see them talk about their siblings and not okay like everyone has their way of dealing with it in different for everyone and yes. It's just some people's process is GonNa be longer than others and it's just about. Yeah facing and dealing with it I can though and it's interesting too that you know God forbid it. Was you know if roles were reversed? If you're on the other side in your brother were here. Don't you think you would say to him? Live your best life. I don't WanNa see you if you WANNA cry cry. Do what's right for you want you to have fun? I want you to laugh. Want you to live a great life. Yeah absolutely I I I think I can. I can tell that to anyone now. I think Having been through what I've been through and and like you said if I was on the other side of this that's what I would want as for everyone to live their best life and I feel like I've received goes messages from my brother about wanting me to live my best life and backs. That's kind of how I've been embodying. These last few years is that you know it is so important. We only get one life and you know. Hold ourselves back from anything from you know out of fear of. I don't know it's so vital for anything. Let's move forward. Live our best life and honor our loved ones as we do what I love about your tweet. In the responses there were so many people who were so it touched them and I always think God there's so many believers in the world and then there are people who don't believe someone will say you know it's just the light or whatever my response is it might be just the light. It might be the way the camera or you created it with scientifically. This is the reason that does that can exist. And it also be assigned from your brother like the two can exist and I agree with that. I agree with that because I had I had struggled so much. It's not so much but like oh my gosh I was like people can be so mean like would just miss yet is NC and there were so many nice people there and I. I loved reading every single comment. You know responding to them according me and it was so you know to feel supported until understood and and to have those people that you know even gain their own piece from seeing my photo young so you know it felt like there was a purpose for this. This was so nice but there are some people out there and and I think I did. I did struggle with not that other people believe different things like you said but you know this gives me peace. Then let me have my piece honestly and and I had mentioned it to my mom. My mom was so cute. She has a twitter but she stayed very under the radar and she was checking. She's checking like you know every hour and she would text me and be like your tweet is up to this ninety king and even though she was loving it but you know when she did see some of his negative comments like I felt so bad for them. I want them to enjoy this moment too. They're fun and they miss him and they want to. I don't want that to be taken away from them either but you know when he read some of those comments. She said the same thing that you said she was like. You know what might be true? It might be the Lens and it might be the way the lights reflecting from the camera but the way that it presented itself as a guest and you from my brother like maybe he made the sign in that way that would make the cameras the thing the cameras going to do and they're saying it's just the camera will it be yeah. Why can't it be a play? Yeah well we have that same conversation. Wow Yeah and you're I saw some of your responses to some of the people who were not as gracious in. You're still so gracious in so mature and it's attached to your character. I was like this is a good person. I can learn. Yeah it's it's hard action social media you WanNa just you know so hard to not lash out but yeah. It's so hard to not take things personally in your responses to. Everyone was so so perfect. Thank you yeah you know. I think it's just so important for us to understand a human that other people believe different things the nothing. That's okay yeah how it'll be that people believe different things from us or skeptical or you know but at the end of the day. It's what gives me peace and I can't let anyone take that from me because I'm the one who has to live this battle of losing my brother every emonet so you know what gives me and my family comfort. I can't let anyone take that away from me. So and he met Amen clearly. I know you're not. You're not on social media to to get followers if someone wanted to find you to. You WanNa give. But we don't have to be cut the snow this is this is. This is the part that I do appreciate and I do like because you know if there are people who you know want to reach out for support or just to know somebody who's gone through something similar or something. They're going through. I always want to be someone that you know they can. They can look to lean on for support. And you know I'm open if if anyone wants to talk to me about anything has any questions for me. I'm so open to that Well Yeah Okay so today. Reach out you twitter or instagram would be. I sell it to either way. And it's the underscore underscore Miller. Yes perfect. Thank you again so much and good luck in your career aspirations. I can tell that you're going to be fantastic. Thank you I appreciate you reaching out to me too. I really enjoy doing this. And and just so you know like talking about this and getting to share about. My brother always helps me to so many because seven years. Yeah seven years later. It's like some people it seems like they start to forget and to be able to to honor him seven years later and share about him so. I appreciate the opportunity. Thank you so much for listening to science from the other side. You can find me firm Rene on all social media at fern. Rene Ro and a Y. I love hearing from you and I love hearing your stories of signs and if you would like to hear more episodes of this show please be sure to subscribe in Apple podcasts. Thank you again and sweet dreams.

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WAR OF THE ROSES

Johnjay & Rich On Demand

14:33 min | Last week

WAR OF THE ROSES

"Breakfast guys let's go. I'm leaving for mcdonald's and five seconds. The breakfast emptied meal. It's only at mcdonald's where there's a meal for every morning and nothing says morning like a classic sausage mcmuffin with egg right. Now get this all time favorite for just two bucks on the one. Two three dollar menu price and participation may vary cannot be combined with any other offer combo meal vodka. You need to know if they're cheating. You deserve to know the truth right now. john rich. It's time for the roses. So you're in relationship to boyfriend or your husband could pechiney on you so you come to us like danika. Danika has come to us. We're gonna hear danika story. Kyle's go undercover. Call her boyfriend or husband telling me one a dozen red roses. Romantic red roses. We're gonna find out who he sends them to find out what he puts on. The card card is the key. Because that's where you're right. All the mucci stuff danika welcome to our show. Who do you think is cheating in your life for having me so. I think that my boyfriend might be cheating on me. I wanna find out is his name. Patrick patrick yes. Janika patrick annika and his name. Is patrick danika patrick. Those famous race car driver danika patrick. That is incredible. That should be all over social media right now. I know this would be like. He isn't cheating so that at one point you will have a wedding invitation. That is the dan patrick wedding. Oh yeah there. I wish that to your name is a famous. That's never happened was also danika from the wonder years. What's her name is famous static. Patrick yeah okay. So why do you think patrick's on you. Well you know. He's been acting kind of weird the last couple of weeks and then i didn't really think anything of it. I just thought maybe it was like work or something and the holidays are coming up but then you know i went onto his computer and like i needed to do something and i saw like some stuff on his instagram. And i think he might be today. Would you see on his instagram well. I saw that he was following this girl and she has a twenty four thousand followers or whatever she just like hair and makeup and stuff. And i was like this is super weird. Lies he looking at this. You know whatever the algorithm. But then i started kind of fishing a little bit more because i was curious and i saw that. He's watched like every single line of her videos and make up. Yes super weird and events and now the following are the models that this makeup artist is is working on like extra beautiful. I mean imagine if he follows her the videos would pop up on his feed so he would see all of that and like interacting with it like Are you talking. what's what's going on. I don't understand why he would be selling her that kind of attention. Do you guys live in. The same city. Is the makeup artist. I don't wanna put her on blast or anything like that. I'm not really sure where she is. Located. but all i know is that i don't have a good hearing about it and i'm like kind of freaking out so okay so is your fear that he's cheating with this particular makeup artist while okay lissa okay. You don't wanna put her on blast. But her name is eliza so we're gonna call him offer him a dozen red roses and we're gonna listen to see if he sends them to danika or sends them to elissa or somebody else but you think cheating because of that behavior nothing else. We're acting weird and secretly which is not his not his m. Oh so. I just want to know what's up. Okay that's enough. That's enough to share the feeling that you get. I think is more than the evidence at this point. I think but that gut feeling you're getting is important to listen to try to come up with this thing. Where like you say sentenced but the last word of the sentence it makes sense but it's used improperly. Like if i said to you the feeling that you get i mean it's tenfold doesn't make sense but if i said that and we just kept going one would think by the way i use it just the feeling you feeling you get the. How'd you said you sit goes to sent you said said the view that you get is more important than the evidence right so forget. That's a complete sense. I'm gonna go with that feeling again. His tenfold on. Did it make sense. But i think by the way i say it. It is acceptable. People just continue to move on. So that's a little side note. Dan patrick on the line la. Bring me back really quick. And we'll see we send the flowers to war of the roses continues next which jane rich in rich. We're in the middle of war of the roses. You've got danika and her boyfriend. Patrick has been together thirty years because neither one of you guys a race car drivers right. We're not race car drivers. Yeah okay you think. Patrick is gone you because you saw his instagram that he was commenting on a hair makeup artist tons and tons of comments. And you saw that. He watched commented on every single one of her videos so think she's most of them are most so now you didn't see. Is there any kind of any kind of Direct message going back and forth between her and him. Did you see that market. I saw okay so you might just be a superfan. Maybe like wants to learn how to make guys are wearing. Makeup now is trying to get her. Attention are identical recall. Patrick hello hi. There is patrick available Allow me to introduce myself patrick. So my name is neely and with. The new company were called in our flowers. Hopefully remember that because it's going to come back later on so you've been chosen to be part of a pretty exciting promotion. We want you to be our micro influencers so basically patrick what this means for you as you get. Descend our most romantic bouquet of red roses. There's a dozen of them and trust me. It is amazing. You can send it totally free to whoever you want and patrick. All we ask in return is that you share j. Are flowers on social media whichever platform you use the most hence the micro influencers thing I really have a lot of power. So that's okay honestly. I think they just wanted to give it a little bit of sizzle with that name Basically we are using. This is like a word of mouth marketing campaign so even if you told one friend about us and you know they end up saying oh that pure passion okay that you sent to whoever it was so amazing and you got the best response i wanna send it to than we get business out of it so like i said it is our passion case. So it's pretty sexy so thing especially when a surprise and take advantage because it's totally free all right and you don't need like a credit card or anything. No i don't really need any personal information from you other than you know however personal you wanna get on the card. Okay got it okay. And i actually had the card ready If you wanna get that started and we can get them. Sent out this morning all right. You want me to tell you what you want. You want to ride on the card. Yes so usually. We start with the message. Whatever you want to say. And and like i said you know some people get fun. Some people get flirty. Some people get like straight up x rated. So don't be shy of sort of seen at all whatever you want to write on their to personalize it. Okay let's do. I'm so fast with you. Know it's too creepy Maybe just do i love you. I don't know i love you. Okay either sweet. Very sweet Okay i love you obviously. Maybe we'll do a heart so it's not so redundant Hard to patrick. And then who am i addressing these two Earn name is danna. Come dini. nfl got it. Patrick the it's me. It's me babe you're actually on the phone with john jay and rich. And there's like no flowers really. Oh food going on now. I want to know what's going on to. And i was hoping that i was figuring it out this way but i'll just be real. Are you cheating on me or or why no. Why would you think that because they went on your computer the not to like snoop around because they need to use it and then i saw that you were stocking that lebed blogger. Eliza and her youtube page seven follow her on instagram liking. Ever stop and commenting budge. Way more than ever comment on any of my photos or anything. And i think it's super pigging weird and i wanna know of the calving affair with her or semi creepy at josh. I don't know what you're no. No that's not what is happening. Not okay so it's not what you think. And what is i mean. We really have to do right now. I mean why couldn't you just like ask me person well. You hadn't really approachable. And he's in kind of acting super weird which is also why. I think that you are cheating on me or something like are you hiding something. No hiding national thing no. She's just my mentor watcher. Stuff he your mentor. You work in a restaurant. Yeah i mean like i'm like a messenger because like you know i'd like her work. She's been helping me find programs guiding me because like i kinda wanna get into. You know a cosmetology school or acid in school. what are you talking about. Yeah i mean like. I don't know i mean i know you notice. I'm not really happy with my restaurant. Gig and i i just kind of want to open my own business and get started and like i just think this. Is you know this is a good place to start. I mean it's like a huge news right now and i don't know i think it'd be kind of cool to have like you know like a one. Stop kind of talk to micro pigmentation micro blading maybe even make You know there's like it's such a market for it and you know i mean. I'm really good at drawing. And i think i don't know. I think i can make a lot of money doing this mean. Why did you think that you made plotted. You think you could just tell me about this. You know like talking because other one in just like nervous about like what would you think about me trying to like potentially wanting to become a makeup artist. I just think. I don't know i wanted to get it off your dollar before i approach do with it. I think that i'll i'll get get some free makeup so that sounds be well. Patrick sounded the beginning. When you're going to send the flowers you said in a card. I'm obsessed with you and then you changed it and it does the salad that was gonna go like i'm obsessed with. He was gonna go to pat to danika right. Were you can send flowers to the makeup mentor. eliza alone. i'm it said something. I was going to write. You know. i thought that would be nice like a funny playful thing to say in the car. I didn't think it was. I wasn't about to write it to somebody else. Like i literally just talked to the lady for. I just asking for advice for you. Know for information and she's been really helpful but it's not it has nothing else happened. Okay guys believe him. Yeah yeah. I mean you know allocating with danika about all of that like. I think that will only help your relationship in instead of keeping her in the dark about while you're thinking about doing i'm i'll be honest with you. Guys like still kind of working on my communication skills. I mean we've been together for a little while. But i'm not that good sometimes communicating when i'm thinking and you know so here it is i don't know okay understandable. Alright so danika. You get it. So he's studying to be a hair and makeup artist. The new study under one of the best and he wants your support. So that's it okay. Well you to co- communicate danika coming us. Thank you for listening. Thank you going on here with this. Patrick gotta that's war of the roses john rich. Does anybody want breakfast guys. let's go. I'm leaving for mcdonald's in five seconds. The breakfast emptied meal. It's only at mcdonald's where there's a meal for every morning and nothing says morning like a classic sausage mcmuffin with egg right. Now get this all time. Favorite for just two bucks on the one one-two-three three dollar menu. Price and participation may vary cannot be combined with any other offer combo meal vodka.

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Compaq Computers: Rod Canion

How I Built This

41:30 min | 1 year ago

Compaq Computers: Rod Canion

"Support for this podcast and the following message come from Amazon web services, whether it's searching for life on other planets or helping enterprises reinvented. Their industries AWS helps technology scale to meet the challenge. More at AWS is how dot com slash podcast so back in the nineteen eighties. Rod canyon left Texas Instruments with one vision to create a better, portable computer. He had no idea his twenty eight pound invention would not only compete, but also be out computing, giant IBM. We I ran this episode in may of twenty seventeen and there is a lot of great stuff in here. Enjoy. Well, it's that if I b m Anderson market they take over and push everybody out in February of nineteen Eighty-four IBM introduces their own portable into the market. Ardor stopped because before it actually was introduced they were showing it to dealers and customers, and they just stopped ordering ours. That was that was a very very life threatening situation. We had this factory running full speed and no place to go. From NPR. It's how I built this show that innovators entrepreneurs idealists and stories behind the movements. They built. I'm guy Rosin today show Haradh canyons personal computer startup Compaq too on the biggest computer company in the world. And what? If you have a PC at home or at work, and you buy some software like word or turbo tax. It doesn't really matter. If you've Adele or a HP or Toshiba because if it's a piece of it will run PC's after and that makes perfect sense. Right. But believe it or not in the nineteen eighty s in the early days of personal computers. That is not how it worked. If your computer was say in IBM. Well, you needed software written for an IBM. An IBM was the biggest player by far. In fact, some people thought that IBM would eventually crush all the competition and become the only PC maker. But all that changed when rod Kenyon started Compaq now rot wasn't your typical. Restless entrepreneurial guy. In fact, he had a good stable job at Texas Instruments as an electrical engineer, and he was pretty happy there. But one day in nineteen. One. He's managers assigned him to work on a new project, and it was something that rod believed would not work. And so he started to get frustrated basically was being told to go spend the next two years of my life being Mahindra of all and end up in failure. So at that moment rod started to talk to to close colleagues at Texas Instruments, Jim Harris and Bill Mirko, and basically said Paik, maybe we should leave we met and talked about how we were going to go start a company, and there were a lot of startup companies in California and Silicon Valley one of the first things we realized is g these guys are having fun. They're making a ton of money, and you know, they're not any smarter than we are. They just they're just out doing it themselves. There was also this awareness that something really big is going on in the personal computer market when I beam entered the market in August of nineteen eighty one we realized that that market was going to explode. And then what happened is fall Comdex came along. We went out to the conference and saw all of the companies and all of the things going on. It was just that. Did we went back to Houston and talked about we're going to miss this. If we don't get going, so. Jim Harrison, I turned into resignation right away. Bill Myrtle waited because his wife was about to deliver their first child, and you had a family to write how many kids did you have three. Were you nervous at all about just quitting without any income coming in. I mean, were you worried at all about doing that? You know, I don't remember being worried about it. The three of us. None of us had any money to invest. So what we did was we saved up money. And the idea was we'll give ourselves a runway length of six months to come up with an idea and go get funding. You know, I think this was an adventure. Let's go see what we can do. So so when do the three view serve land on the idea that that eventually turned into Compaq? Well, the the idea came to me actually one morning. It was strange how you remember those pivotal points in your life. But I was thinking about the idea for a portable computer. There are a number of them that existed at the time probably, you know, just guess fifteen or twenty and what we're what we're a portable computers like at the time. Well, most people remember the Osborne, it was made out of cheap molding, and sort of strung together it had a five inch diameter screen and it had to. Floppies, but you could immediately see some ways to make it a lot better. You know, we we decided we could do a nine inch screen in about the same size box. And while that seems small turns out it's about the same size. As what the original ipad screen is. And we could make it rugged. So that when you carried it it was not damaged, but not worth really spending the time on unless we could get some software that already existed because I had learned that the key software like spreadsheets and were processors and others. Every different brand of computer had to have its own version of the popular software programs. So said, well, what if we could make this great portable run software that already existed and a new the IBM PC was relatively unprotected. It would be a challenge, but it could be reverse engineered legally, and we could make our computer run the same software. And that was the idea that Senate chill must buy while what's wrong with this idea. There has got to be something wrong with it. It's too good to be just hanging around here. And so at what point did you say, okay, we have an idea. Let's go look for money. So I called up Jim Harris. And then later got Bill Myrtle involve, and we thought about it and talked about it and decided you know, that that would be a great product if we can do that. Let's put together the business plan. And so that was the next thing. We did. I mean, it was very quick from the ninth of January two when the idea came up to the twenty second of January when we. Met with the venture capitalist. We basically put together a very short four page business plan and prepare to meet and discuss it with them. And and what did they say? When when they saw it. Well, they were coming into town for another meeting, and we put this business plan in front of them and begin to describe it. And then they started talking to each other. You know, one of them said, yeah, I had this idea, you know, like three months ago, and I said, well, if you think it's such a good idea warrant, you more excited about it. And they said, well, look we like the idea we like you guys, but we're new in this industry. So what you need to do is we need to send you out to Silicon Valley and go meet with Kleiner Perkins in if they'll invest, then we will. So we we basically flew out to. To Silicon Valley, and we went into meet with John door, and we spent a good morning probably three or four hours being questioned. And sure enough about a week later. We got a call that they were willing to invest in. So it was ago. Okay. So it's nine hundred eighty two I guess in and you've gotten your investors in in. What you do get to work building a prototype. Well, first thing we do is begin hiring people because at three of us were sort of the head of each area. But we need engineers mainly to go figure out how to reverse engineer, and how to design the thanks how so we hire three engineers and presumably they basically had to build something pretty similar to to IBM PC except pretty similar didn't cut it. And you had to be exactly the same in order to run the software from an internal standpoint. And so they they came to workforce right away and begin I reverse. Engineering the product and then designing our own. But were you convinced that you guys were going to succeed? You know, it never crossed my mind that we wouldn't succeed. And as I look back now, I think while that was such a long shot. Yeah. Our our expectations were very low. What is succeeding it? Didn't mean become the industry leader. It didn't even mean become one of the leading companies it meant build a company that doesn't go out of business that has a product that solves a a real need. And you don't lose money on. We felt like we knew how to do that. How long did it take for you from that point in against the first or know the early part of nineteen eighty-two until you had a working prototype. So we started the company February the sixteenth and from March until early June. We had our first prototype ready. The deadline was determined by the national computer conference, which just happened to be held in Houston that year. The only time I think it was ever in Houston to show to potential dealers potential computer store owners who would sell it to magazine writers who would write about it when it came out to get feedback and others basically to find out what people thought about this product say you come up with this prototype, and at that point where you even manufacturing these these computers. We built factory inside. A leased building north Houston. We heard manufacturing people. They put a production Lionheart, people trained them on how to build it and began to build the product, and we had a plan that basically allowed us to build probably going to say twenty twenty-five thousand computers by the end of Eighty-three. We didn't begin actually turning out finish units until January of eighty three just to be clear. I mean when you talk about a portable computer in one thousand nine hundred three you're talking about a a machine that weighed what are the way twenty eight pounds? When thi this is not even hand luggage on an airplane. Well, we did use it as hand luggage. But there was some skepticism about that not only that you had to plug it in. It was people began to call them transportable computers, which was more accurate. It was also very rugged one of our key engineering talents was to build it. So that it when you dropped it. It would survive. And of course, your portable would run any software written for the for the IBM, and none of the competition. Did that right? That's right. And basically late in eighty two as we had our first prototypes Bill Murray to-, and then I joined him because there were a lot of computer stores around the country. We would go out and make an appointment and go in and show, the computer store owner our product and showed him the computer. They liked the way it looked. And when we showed them how it worked. It was very nice. The screen was nice. But when we told them, okay, just pick a any of the IBM software off the shelf jenness rink rat box. And put it in the computer and see if it runs in when they did that, and it ran their eyes lit up. They got excited they thought about it a minute. And they wanted to order some right then. They would say something like, okay, I need five of these next week. Are I've got a give you an order for twenty five if you can ship them in the next month. Bill, and I got back to Houston, and compared notes it was like, wait a minute. Every one of these dealers said the same thing what we just stumbled onto is this pent up demand for a portable version of the IBM PC. Now, it seems subtle, but we'd never thought of our product that way. This is a portable computer fits a niche, and you have software because it runs all the software. But if you just step back and turn that over and say everybody out there has an IBM PC in their office. And what they need every one of them needs one or more of is a portable version of it. And we happen to have that product people were wanting to take these things home for the weekend or even overnight to to finish their work. They wanted to take them out to customers to show them their work. And so it was a much bigger market than anybody anticipated. Once we had all the ingredients together, we weren't weren't you worried in one thousand nine hundred eighty two when you were going to dealers and showing them your product that and saying, hey, you know, this is. Basically, this can do everything in IBM can do except it's portable worse. You you guys worry that IBM would come after you know, because we hadn't broken any laws. You know, we had reverse engineered the wrong following advice from top notch intellectual property lawyer. So we were very careful around that their product was not protected by patents in any other way. They had followed more or less the general industry direction. And so building a computer that was similar or close to. It was not a problem at all the fact that we took the time to figure out exactly how there's made the software work and made ours. Do the same thing. It was not illegal. But it sounds like you guys really launched this in a stealth way that IBM probably didn't even care about. You thought you were just probably just a flyspeck of a company that was making this product. And when you launched it in one thousand nine hundred three I don't know today. Even did even know who you were. Oh, no, no. They had no idea, and nor did they care. Yeah. I mean, even after we began to sort of get some positive results in getting into stores. Remember, we reportable they didn't have a portable so initially. It was very easy for them to ignore us because we were truly a a fly. In that first year nineteen eighty three out of the company. Do we sold one hundred and eleven million dollars worth of Compaq computers. Wow. How did you had? You must have been expanding. Like crazy. I mean, I'm assuming at the beginning of that year. You just had like a few hundred maybe like less than one hundred people working there. We had about about one hundred people at the end of the first year that's about right at about six hundred by the end of eighty three. So you can imagine how much hurrying we were doing and expanding. And now this was not a one thing at a time. This is a multitasking bringing on very competent people in every area. So they could here's what needs to be done and go get it done. How how much were you selling that? I portable computer for it was listed for twenty nine ninety five for a single floppy. Unbelievable. And who your customers was at businesses was it individuals. It was mostly. Businesses. But a surprising number of individuals could see the value in it. And if they're company wasn't buying it for them than they would. They would buy it for themselves. Okay. So so three thousand bucks for this computer and increase or selling tens of thousands of these. I have Masumi that at this point. I m is starting to notice. Oh, absolutely. They absolutely. They, you know, in February of nineteen Eighty-four IBM introduces their own portable into the market now are order stopped. Because before it actually was introduced they were showing it to dealers and customers they just stopped ordering ours. Let's assume that if I beam Intersil market they take over and push everybody out. So we had this factory running full speed and no place to go that was that was a very very life threatening situation. So you guys are freaking out. We're freaking out the industry's thinking out is like there goes Compaq. You know, they're they're they've had a good run. But it's over. 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Each rates curies LLC, member FINRA sl. Life kid is like that friend negoti with your toughest parenting moments. So my answer was do you believe Lucas? So Socratic wife kit for parents and audio guide from NPR and the experts at sesame workshop check it out in apple podcasts at NPR dot org slash life kit. Hey, welcome back to how I built this from NPR guy-roger, so nineteen Eighty-three was really good first year of sales for rod canyon. And compact, but to put it in perspective Compaq sold about fifty three thousand computers and that same year IBM they sold seven hundred and fifty thousand computers and so in nineteen Eighty-four when IBM decided to compete with Compaq head to head. Everyone knew it was a major threat. So rod called together the management team for an emergency meeting. You know, what do we think we ought to do? Well, the manufacturing people said we got a lot of temporary people we were hiring so fast. They came on his temporaries initially, and then we can lay all them off mmediately, and we can really cut back production cutback our cost, and it was it was after say a very Dr tone to the meeting. Everybody was like, you know, it's all over. Took all that. And and and it all up and realize, you know, if we're gonna come out of this with the happy ending, there's only one way that's going to occur. And that is let's assume for a minute that IBM's product is not better than ours. That maybe it's limited supply and the dealers once they see it begin to order our product. Again, we need to have product available to fill those orders. Yeah. So here's what we're gonna do. We're going to keep building these sayings. We're gonna store them. And wait for the orders to come at the orders. Never come. Yeah. We're in deep trouble. But you know, what we're in deep trouble. Anyway, if the orders, don't come. So that was the plan. I'm not sure everybody was you know, on board with it. But that's what we went off. And did we ended up storing these things in the in the trailers tractor trailers eighteen wheelers back gal and parking them at our parking lot. When that filled up we borrowed space in France parking lots around the town and by mid February. We we had about twenty of these trailers full of computer sitting around Houston. So what happened? How did you survive that? Well, what happened is IBM introduce the product the kick the tires. It's announced that it is in limited supply for a while. It was not a better product wouldn't a bad product. Did just wasn't better. And so just as we had hoped. Most the best possible situation is the orders came in. And we had the computers to fill them. It's like they had been holding them back. And so not only were they ordering normal. Right. They were sending all the orders that they had been holding everything fell into place just at the right time. And we took advantage of it. So what explains what explains the fact that that they didn't crush you? I mean, it sounds to me like it was one of two things it was either total luck. Or it was the IBM portable computer. Wasn't that good or maybe both? Well, anyway, you look at it was luck. I mean, there was a lot of luck involved. But what had happened is we had had a year to build great relationships with dealers the dealers actually liked having somebody other than B M because I B M was the, you know, the five hundred pound gorilla, and they knew it in any case we continued to sell like crazy and outsold the IBM portable throughout the year. By the end of the year. We were out selling it seven or eight to one end of eighty four by the end of eighty four and we tripled to three hundred twenty nine million in our second year. So by your second year, you're tripled sales. What was the first time? You remember Compaq becoming part of like a the mainstream conversation in America. Well, it depends on how big the mainstream is I think by the end of Eighty-three everybody in the industry knew about Compaq, and was sort of more willing it what was going on here. You know, this idea that people could use all the same for all the same things that were designed and built to run in BNP, see, whether it was software hardware would work on our computer IBM may be underestimated as they didn't really study what it made our product successful. They could've easily put us out of business if they had come out with a a real comparable product. Yeah. And once you guys showed that you could build an IBM clone. A lot of other companies realize that it was possible to do the same thing. Right. That's right. And the fact that we took off and set sales records main everybody else did it, including by the way, the the big guys HP TI deck, all finally followed suit. But by then we had really establish ourselves in the market. And you know, the thing that took us from six hundred million in eighty. Six to one point two billion in sales in eighty seven. We came out with our own desktop, which was essentially three times faster than IBM's desktop for about the same price and began to establish ourselves is not only the portable company, but also the half performance company. IBM trying to like kill off all the clones. When when they released the PS two in nineteen eighty seven which was this computer that was designed. So it could not be cloned, right? Yeah. That's right. That was an attempt to take this thing that gotten out of control mainly due to Compaq and bring it back under IBM's control. So I mean, I'm comes out with their new architecture and claims that this is the way to go that old architecture has run. Its course it's gonna run out of gas very soon. And so you don't wanna follow it to the end you wanna get on this new horse. And I b m has it. And so let's go, and that's where I b m marketing strategy got them in trouble. Because this thing not only didn't run all the software. It didn't run any of the software. We staffers I knew computer did not run IBM's own software didn't now they came out with new IBM software. So if you wanted to buy this new product, you could buy all new peripherals in all new software, and they would claim that it would outperform anything else in the market. So that time though, right? And you're saying that presumably companies many companies already had PC's and software IBM was saying by this new PS two. Oh, and you're also going to have to invest in new software. You make it sound crazy to them. It was normal. That's the way the industry had always worked, and they they still hadn't bought into this industry. Standard idea people believing that and understanding that it was important to be able to run your all software on a new computer. It never happened before Compaq pioneered. And then they wanted to get rid of it as quick as they could. Was there a moment where you were worried that that actually would succeed? Oh, yeah. No. There was never a question it they had good chance to succeed. Now, what kept us going and what I guess gave us. Confidence that we had a pretty good chance. Was we outperformed IBM's best products every step of the way. And so there was you know, significant part of the industry that looked at IBM's claims, you know, the magazines aren't afraid to write Compaq outperforms the IBM by fifty to one hundred percent. So it's spite of it being a VM. We've we're holding onto pretty solid position in the market because ours was always higher performing. I mean, it it seems like at any juncture in your first several years IBM had they just done something a little bit smarter strategically could have crushed you. There's no doubt I beam could have crushed us a number of different ways. And at that point in time. Okay. Right. So it's it's a five years from the time you launch to to the time you're doing a billion dollars in revenue, right? That's right. How did your life your own personal life change? Because all of a sudden you like, I'm assuming you're you become a rich guy. Yeah. You know, certainly compared to where I had been I was rich. But then again, we we knew that that was a fragile part of it. Did get a divorce in nineteen eighty seven. You know, it was just a sad part of of what happens in in that era. But I'm sure it had something to do with the stress associated with all the work. The time spent at work. So in nineteen eighty-seven, you're going through divorce and even simple divorces hard. And then IBM comes out with his new computer designed to basically put you guys out of business. So how did you deal with? How did you cope with all that happening? Looking back on it. I would say probably denial pretty effective tool. You know, not letting things impact you as much as they might in sort of other situations is something you have to do there. I felt like I was learning as I went and I was doing a good job. There was personal turmoil. If you wanna throw another layer on top of that radio shack tried to buy us in late eighty six and early eighty seven and so that was going on same time. All this was happening. So you were just here's your personal life. You were just kind of you compartmentalize that you were you just had to put that in a box and focus on the stuff and not let that depress you. Yeah. Now. Got three kids and they're getting to be teenagers and there's little league. And there's all of that. And and I'm trying very hard to get away at the right time. Go see a school play. That's where most of the stress came from trying to do at all if you could just cut off part of it and say, I'm not going to worry about that. It would be one thing. But trying to do it all and not drop any balls. That was pretty stressful or going home Leone, eating takeout Chinese food. I mean, what's what was happening? Once you've done with your day. Crashing usually. Yeah. No. I see pictures now of media carrying a fast food, a McDonald's bag or a Wendy's bag you just eight when you could that was sort of secondary getting everybody taking care of getting the meetings done getting decisions may. You look at my role as making decisions I wasn't making all the decisions. But all of the key ones. I had to be involved in so how and there were always a lot. I guess about like what ten years after you guys launched Compaq? You drafted the board of directors. They fire. You almost exactly ten years later in the Trump why what was going on. Well, there's several levels of looking at the dynamics there on the surface. It's a better of disagreement over how fast to move into the lower cost arena like like lower species. Yes. The chairman of the company been Rosen thought we ought to move very quickly and so quickly. That would fact we ought to go buy product from a Taiwanese or Japanese or Korean supplier and Margate was looked. It's not what it seems. We can get to market as fast as anybody with our own design. And I think at the board meeting the board decided to replace me with the number two guy with Eckerd Pfeiffer headed you. How'd you get that? News. Well, we had a board meeting were been proposed that idea, and I left the room and they deliberated for quite a while. And then made the decision to make the change. But it was clear that was the direction they were going. I knew that's what it was going to be. I was also somewhat burnt out. And I was of a strange mindset, you know, I kind of wanted to get out of that that pressure. It was it took me a while to really look back and understand that I was a big part of the problem of why it ended up going down that path. And and I regret that. But it is what happened, and I guess under the stress I was under and kind of gotten into this frame of mind where a need to get away the disagreement over the low cost speed to market was just the catalyst that that allowed it to happen almost guided it to the point where I was going to be far. So when you were at I mean, this is the company that you founded that you built. Yes. And then you were REM. Moved from that company. I think a lot of people hearing that would say God that sounds like fiction injustice because it's your idea you created it was your sweat, and then it was taken away from you. But but it sounds like from your perspective that was fine. You you were kind of your time was was over there. Let's be clear we're a fortune five hundred corporation. You know, we're a leader in a big industry. And just because you started the company doesn't give you any right to continue to run the company needs to be run by somebody that can make good decisions and can manage that complex and operation, which I think I was doing okay, or maybe even very well up to that point in time. So that's I don't see that. As the reason that I needed to leave. I think it had more to do with my frame of mind, and sort of burned out situation you were in your mid forties at that point. So still pretty pretty young guy. Accomplish a lot did you walk out of the company with, you know, financially secure where you set for life at that point? Yes. Absolutely. And of course, continue my life, actually, the home life became much less stressful. And then I got involved. Investing in and some startups and early stage companies and tried to help them succeed. Not all of them did. But then finally volved were really just like helping entrepreneurs start their company and try to help them avoid a lot of the mistakes new companies make he think about Compaq it was such a powerhouse in the eighties. A fortune five hundred company does billion dollars in revenue within five years. And then you think about all of the companies that that it was associated with that we competed against, you know, Apple IBM, Dow, Microsoft, Texas, Instruments, all of those companies still exists and compact doesn't exist anymore was folded into HP, and that brand is no longer here. In in a way, is is that a cautionary tale for some of these power houses, we see today like, Snapchat or Uber or Facebook companies. We can't even imagine not existing. You know, it really is. That's certainly something. Didn't envision when I left. I guess I just wasn't thinking that for down the road. And I of course, you never know the future in let the decision to merge with HP was a financial decision. But the end result of the way it happened. Is that Compaq no longer exists? And that is sad because it's got such a great history and played such a key role in actually forming the way the world works today. And yet most people you run into on the street. I've never heard of Compaq. It's crazy, isn't it? It is crazy. It's sad. But it's also life. You know, that's that's a, you know, we we started out to build a company that would last, and I think that's the case for the, you know, if you look at Dell or Microsoft or apple the leaders of those companies maintained enough control to make sure that it never got into the hands of somebody that looked at it just purely from a financial standpoint. If I had been there if I had been leading the company, we would never have sold. We would have figured out a way to to solve the problem. How much of your of your success at Compaq was because of just your hard work, and smarts and the hard work of Jim and Bill or a how much of it was it was like. If you'd asked me that in the eighties say the late eighties. I would probably have said it was ninety percent intelligence and insight and work and ten percent, look, but to tell you how perspective changes with time. I would say today it was the other way around. We did a lot of good things we came up with a good idea. But if you look back at any of the things that could have gone wrong and would have either slowed down or stopped us. I mean, there's endless list of those. So the fact that, you know, okay, we dealt with those issues as they came along. But the fact that was a successful path. Even bailable is pretty pretty doggone lucky. Canyon. He founded Compaq computers with Bill Mirko and Jim Harris in nineteen eighty two. Rod still lives in Houston, where he mainly invests in other people's startups, by the way, the story of compacts David and Goliath struggle against IBM was the subject of a very cool documentary. It's called silicon Cowboys kind of computer dis today. I'll use a MAC book air and pro go phone you started the PC revolution. Your Napa common Africa? And please do stick around. Because in just a moment. We're going to hear from you about the things your building. But first a quick message from one of our sponsors American Express, you want to build your business. They can help build your business with financing solutions. Eligible business customers the powerful backing of American Express don't do business without it. Terms apply. Visit American Express dot com slash business. Hey, thanks so much for sticking around. Because it's time now for how you built that. And today we're updating a story we ran about a year ago. Many MS danika Lauzi at live in Germantown Wisconsin and about sixteen years ago when danika was in college she loved to knit scarves for her friends to the point where at least started to say enough danika. No more scarves. So she thought. Okay. Hope branch out I'll you know, knit a hat. I made it and I finished it. I thought and looked at it. And there is a big weird hole in it. And I thought I made a mistake tested on the ground really disappointed. But it's a good thing that when she did that her dad happened to be in the room, my dad saw lane there, and he said, we'll put your nest through that. Yeah. Her nest that was her family's nickname for the curly massive hair on top of Denic is head. So just for fun. She put her hair through the whole in the hat. I don't know who that it. But. Member kind of a collaborative ly- the room looked lake. 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I think I could maybe be making just about you know, what I making here if I made more hat and right around this time danika started to notice there was competition. Other people were making hats for ponytails. So she innovated she made multiple openings to accommodate different hairdos, and she even figured out how to hide those openings. So you could wear the hat like any other hat when you wanted to an all the knitting took a lot of time. So danika started to get some help. I third getting a lot of emails from any factors in China had found my website, saying, hey, we can make these for you. I thought all right. I don't have a lot of options here. I'm gonna try that. So okay. She found a few people in China who could hand knit the hats. They are actually a lot of times made by people in their homes, but they were all turned out to be different sizes and a little bit different shape. And some of that was was just the nature of made. But. It couldn't go on danika realized she couldn't grow her business by knitting the hats by hand. So after asking a lot of different engineers, she found one guy in New Jersey to design her knitting machine that would put holes into hats. It can make a hat every eighteen minutes, and I have to stop the oil it about every six to seven hours. And so I can get about sixty Pat and a day. Company is called peekaboo ponytail hats since we last spoke with her danika has been thinking about marketing peekaboo hats in countries like New Zealand in Australia where it's winter from June to August. So she can keep selling her heads around and she's working on five new designs. If you want to find out more about danika Lasi or here. Previous episodes head to our podcast page. How I built this NPR dot org. Of course, if you wanna tell us your story, go to build NPR dot org, and thanks so much for listening to the show this week. You can subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. 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GSMC SciFi Podcast Episode 212: V Wars Season 1 Episode 3

GSMC SciFi Podcast

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GSMC SciFi Podcast Episode 212: V Wars Season 1 Episode 3

"Golden state. Media concepts side. PODCAST. Together we dive into the World Sifi in science fiction from episode of Star Trek Star Walk to the. Resident in all the. Science fiction movie from the Bachelor Marvel or DC. Media concepts sets Sifi pub cats. You'll never get sized stations the same way again. Just Trains due to the end didn't GSM seaside podcast fraught Benji SMC podcast network. I'm your host Alex. Today we're GonNa talk about surprise viewers season one episode three. I really love this show I. Don't know if Y'all have given it a shot yet on Netflix. But I highly encourage it although this show has its problem areas just like any other show. It's a lot of fun and it also takes a really holistic indep approach to the issue of Vampires. It's not just taking and look at them. As fantasy characters are horror characters. But also as Sifi characters, they provide us with a scientific reasoning behind their being vampires. Which I very much enjoy overall. It's a refreshing take. And I recognize that this isn't the only show or sci-fi approach to Fan Pires, but it is overall one of my favorites so far. It has great sociocultural and political commentary, and is very evocative of many current events. We've spoken about the timeliness of this show in the past, but we will go ahead and cut short right now to cut to the chase. Today's episode that we're reviewing is called because I could not stop for death, which is a reference to an Emily Dickinson poem. Such a day, we are going to work through this episode with the recaps first then we're going to talk about the concept of brother against brother and in our final segment. If you stick around, WE'RE GONNA. Talk About Emily, Dickinson's poem and the cat in the cradle and the silver, spoon. Let's, recap this episode. So Inter last episode we really ended with Luther, just quietly watching Dez. Not knowing that they are being watched by knee close. So? That's a little disconcerting, and as Nice as Nikos was to swans face, we really get the sense that he is more of a villain than anything else and him watching over them all, but confirms it he is watching over them just about in the same manner as homeland watches over people in the boys. It's honestly more threatening and insidious than it is anywhere near being fatherly or helpful or protective. So with this episode we see a lot of blood everywhere and these six initial people are killed by a couple of vampires. We don't know how the two vampires were infected, but Luther did tell us in the previous episode that Priante can remain viable for weeks in an individual area, so there are a multitude of ways that Michael could have passed it on to other people. We already have seen that with his dentist and again with monster. Who was working on Michael's bike? And both became infected with a dentist, ultimately committing suicide. And the other person monster, seeming to have turned, but he is in a gang, and we're not precisely sure what he is going to do. As time goes on, we see a woman begin to succumb to the affects of the preowned infection. And we know that Michael has been out with her in the past. They've been on dates and seemed to be pretty familiar with each other. Her name is Danika and she seems to be some type of real estate agent or something like that. And she is. Going over the details of a new house, and what appears to be like a housewarming party win, she begins, says start having these new super sense symptoms. So, she speaks with her sister mental. And really says you know that they have a lot to talk about with their mom and how she is going. You get the sense that there's some kind of medical issue that is underlying all this like power of attorney. and. They seem to be very upset with each other. You can tell that one of them is a lot more involved with the care of their mother than the other, and the other is very carefree, and just not entirely responsible. You get this sense of like antigone and is many almost in a sense. or almost kind of like the two sisters in the taming of the shrew, with their sense of what needs to be done and their disdain for what should be done now. DANIKA is not overall super disdainful. She's more care free like antigone, although antigone does have this sense of justice and of right from wrong and morality, so it's not a true one to one comparison in that regard, but you get wearing coming from and that one of the sisters is a lot, more mature and responsible and attentive to the needs of their ailing mother, and the other is really just more out there to have a good time. So Danika the one who is mostly just seemingly out to have a good time is at some house event when she starts getting these symptoms, and so she ends up going over to her sister's house and she doesn't feel very well, but she still goes ahead, and does it and when she gets her sister starts giving her a hard time about their family, so meal is really just being like. Hey, I need you to sign this. This paperwork for mom finally I'm glad that you're here and it's just giving her a hard time when Danika really starts to get even more sick really, and she suddenly turns right then, so it's a little bit abrupt in the way that Dan ACI is being overcome with US opposed to how we've kind of seen it in the past, and it suggests she might be a little bit different than the other vampires. We've seen so far. But, we also see that the blood thirst is immense and just overwhelming. She goes ahead and rips her sister's throat out right there in her own home. And it's very grim, and seemingly without remorse, whereas Michael at least able to walk away later on from the lady who is blind at the bus station and he seems to feel upset in some type of way about having killed that woman in his apartment. Or her apartment. That he and Luther head covered up. So this is a little bit. Different Danika might regret it, but she almost two seems to relish in the blood lust. and. That's kind of how her personality was before. Michael was more of a kind loving down to earth person. Indiana Co was already selfish before super happy. This is also just magnifying parts of us that were already present before, or it's just expressing the bloodlust to different degrees based on whether people were more selfless or selfish before they are turned via epigenetics. So, we do see that this contagion is truly branching out quite quickly, and it makes you think a little of the contact tracing with Co bid nineteen, so Michael has I obtained this preowned disease and become a vampire, and he's been to his dentist, and his dentist has been also been turned, and he's giving it to Danika and then the person who was fixing. Fixing his bike gets the infection as well so it's just from respiratory droplets. He's not even actually bitten these people just like how he originally came across the pre on disease, and how Luther became a carrier for it and brought it. Home to jets is does going to turn at some point is clear O'Hagan or Nikos going to turn? We're not quite sure yet. It may be that with being a carrier. You have to actually exchange bodily fluid. Maybe he's not actively shedding cells. Mover that is Michael appears to be as even his dentist got sick, the person fixing his bike and one of the women, he an intimate relationship with before. So this contact. Tracing is about to get crazy complicated. We know that Michael was already infectious prior to the point at which he actually succumbed to the blood lost because he went to see his dentist. I remember because his teeth were sore so Danika may already spread this at that house warming event that she was at before she went over, and the bloodlust overcame her. Her sister meals house. We're not entirely sure. Did she stop at McDonald's or Pinera along the way I? Don't know. It makes the contact tracing infinitely more complex, and that's honestly how it works in real life, it's truly exponential to trace back whom all you've come in contact with, and then whom each of these other people have come into contact with. We're going to go on a quick break and when we come back, we're going to pick up with where we left off with Kaley. Stay tuned. What to find out what movies to go see then check out the GS AMC movie podcast. It's your ticket to the latest movies whether it's a new blockbuster event, romantic comedy or action flick. This show has got it all covered. They talk some what to go. See now. Don't bother what's hot on. Netflix and everything in between that GSM see podcasts Dot Com backslash movie dash podcast when it's all about the movies. It has to be this new show. Don't forget to like on facebook and follow them on twitter visit. M. C. PODCAST DOT COM for more INFO. Just. Brace. We were talking about Danas relationship with her sister. And how this new emergence of vampirism really shows us the difficulty of contact tracing and starts to give us an idea of how this disease is really spread so once we get more than just a handful of characters who have been overcome by the infection. Then we can start seeing some true patterns emerging again. That's the importance of having larger sample sizes. They make those patterns come up in stark relief, and they can also show you. What is a significant pattern and what is perhaps just chance? So in this case, we are seeing that these folks are turning perhaps more rapidly than they were before, and are immediately just being overcome, but that they may also be infecting folks prior to the bloodlust overcoming them, so does this also spread by bites? I guess we'll find out if it's bites or just respiratory droplets and other types of bodily fluids, but I would think that if it was spreading through bodily fluids like it did from Luther to his wife Jess that that's very likely also going to be transmitted via the bloodstream in other individuals. So. It stands to reason that if one of these vampires bite someone else that perhaps they will turn so far. We've mostly just seen. People die angry at their throats ripped out. Let's see what happens. Maybe this is going to be like vampire, diaries or something where you have to drink the vampire's blood I. We'll find out. Up next though we're GONNA, talk a little bit about what Keighley's been up to. I like Keighley's character. Well I like her as a character as a person, she can seem kind of obnoxious, but I do admire her dedication to the truth. So a lot of Kayla's dedication seems to be mostly impacted by money, and just a sense of reveling in chaos more than. Truly bringing out the truth because she thinks the people have a right to know, but there is some sense of. Real journalistic, Integrity I suppose earliest a journalistic approach when it comes to Keighley's work, and she's willing to risk a lot to get the answers Michael Very well could have killed her when she first went into go and meet him, and so she is perhaps not a great person, but she is a very dedicated journalist and I will give her that. So. She has been leaking this truth on her website called Reva leaks and she's leaked as much as she's known to be the truth, so she has been in losers house and has seen that. Jess has been killed in there and talk to her friend who works for the police station and seen a picture of Michael with, Luther in there. So since she knows that there's a connection between the two, she has now decided. She's going to use her journalistic experience to sort out some type of connection and get as much information as she can about Luther or Michael. So she reaches out to losers, ex wife Rachel who is desert, mom. Rachel is played by Nikki. Reed and you may remember. Her is playing Rosalie in the twilight saga. She an summer holder are actually married in real life, and I think that's pretty neat as a factor show and they both came from vampire shows. In their emergence as actors, so that's pretty neat, and I liked seeing both of them onscreen together, especially playing opposing sides. That's always fun. When married actors get to do that with each other. So, Is really seemingly estranged from both Luther, and as we know from the previous episode that Luther really did not want Dez handed off to Rachel's custody, and that does seemed a little bit alarmed about perhaps seeing his mother as well. Rachel does seem to have some issues. She's working through, but she. Love Dez very much. So. Katie goes in interviews Rachel and kind of pushes Rachel to say certain things by preying on Rachel's want to see her son. And then they put this interview online and dead sees it as well as luther who gets very upset reasonably so by this encounter. But Katie is kind of messed up and taking this approach, but we get it from her perspective. She doesn't understand exactly what's going on. She's not privy to a lot of the details, and so she's just putting two and two together the way that makes the most sense to her. She doesn't know that this is really just a virus. She does know that there is essentially a vampire out there murdering people, and perhaps more than one since luther also killed his wife Jess. In the meantime we have Michael out there, trying to escape, he's just trying to get out of the Seneca area and is still walking and or driving by stealing cars to get away from there. I'm not sure how big this area is because it's taking him a while to get out of there, but. Who knows I have lived in San Antonio and I've been to places like Houston wherein it can take you at least an hour to get across town to another part of Houston that's still technically considered to be Houston, but is nonetheless Super Far Away whereas from my hometown area. You can get all the way across town in about two minutes. Though it just depends. I'm not familiar with this place called Seneca. But I, digress, it's just taking Michael along time to get out of there. Luther in the meantime, though is also working on this cure with DNS. He's not even at the cure point though he still trying to examine what the heck is even going on. He has his hunches about the preowneds, but he's not entirely sure how they work by what mechanism they are impacting people why some folks are not seemingly affected by it, but can be a cinematic carriers while others definitely get it. He's getting this information as we are, and just using his expertise to put two and two together as he goes along from an epidemiological perspective, even as Kaley is doing it from the journalistic one and Michael is just figuring things out as he goes along as these events happen to him. So Luther decides to go and see Rachel. Because Dez really wants to go see his mom. He sees her on the television and he misses his mom. Even if she wasn't someone who was stable or safe for him to be round before. So Luther tells him that he'll think about it. And mixing up. At a local restaurant with Rachel to meet up with her. At which point he also tells her does is in the car and he wants to just talk to her first. But, while he's sitting there, he is gauging her reaction to things and Rachel is reacting really poorly, but you can tell that there's a lot of history there because she also already has a gut feeling that her ex husband did not bring their son with him at all, and it turns out that she's right, and she's very upset by that because it's also her son does her son, and she loves him, so she feels a bit bamboozled and is frustrated by the fact. That luther has lied to her about this and you get a sense that she hasn't seen does in a while. And regardless of whether or not luther is justified in that, you can understand also how that could be really upsetting to Rachel and her emotions are really beat up because of it. He got her hopes up for seeing her child. And now they have effectively been dashed now. She does kind of go off the rails a little bit, and they are fighting rather wildly in this restaurant, but right win. We are seeing that there are about maybe really into it. There is a guy who comes in from DNS and stops them and stops Rachel really from hurting luther at all and informs him that. Yeah, he's followed him over there and there just make sure everything goes fine. But we also know that Luther carries this infection and wow. We're fairly certain that he is transmitted it to jess via bodily fluids from when they had intercourse. We can't entirely be certain that that is the only way in which this virus spreads, so it's a little wacky that luther is allowed to leave at all to go and meet up with. Rachel let alone in a public place. That's like if you thought you were at risk for Covid nineteen or you would perhaps as symptomatically spread it to someone, and then they're like. Yeah, you can go ahead and meet up for visitation at your local restaurant. Go! Ahead and go to Denny's totally fine. That seems Super Weird to me. I'm not sure why they met indoors I'm sure Luther wanted it to be in public seeing as how Rachel reacts. However, it also seems to be kind of dicey is DNS. Hoping he's going to infect more people and they're watching him so that they can pay attention to the contact. Tracing was the guy who is watching out for him. was He in the parking lot before taking down people's license plate numbers for contact tracing later. Who knows that seems like something shady that the government would do, but you know that's going a little bit more on an X. files. Tangent DNS has shown us so far that they have the capability to be shady, but not that they're necessarily shady all around. The Guy. Watching out for Luther actually seems pretty legit, and so does Clare O'Hagan to a certain extent, so perhaps it's not all. Government conspiracies, but then again maybe it is. We see that a lot in the X. files to. Sometimes you're like wow, that guy is a good guy. Oh, no, he's! He's also a part of the problem. So we'll find out. Is this story goes along, but it is weird that they let Luther go do this even after they have blackmailed him into keeping his son there in this. Weird Room that they are living in and also having to go and work in this lab every day, so I don't know about all that or luther. Actually leaving does with these wackadoo people, but I digress that is something that happened. It just seemed really odd to me. You think as time we'll be dedicated to either staying with his son or your working on this project and granted like the links that Dns went to secure him working for them. It's super weird that they let him go at all I'm just saying. But now we also see that they're allowing luther to go with them on the hunt for Michael and they. are seeing that he's now kind of an Apex Predator. In a way, he's able to kill folks quite easily, and they've seen this firsthand. When he was at the hospital, so now someone has tracked him to the side of the road and two cops have gotten out of the car and chased him into the woods, and we're not entirely sure what happened to both of them. But on this hunt we do shortly thereafter. Find that one has been. Essentially staked up on a tree limb. And the other one is elsewhere, so he's able to vary brutally. Kill people and think about how sharp an object would have to be to completely pierce through someone's torso. And he did this with like essentially a blunt tree. So that's really hard core that was not meant to go ahead and go through somebody's body to begin with. It's not super sharp, and he still managed to do that with brute force, which kind of implies a lot about Michael's abilities, and perhaps the abilities of the other vampires. We don't know yet if he is going to have that sire factor that you see in a lot of vampire shows where he is the strongest, but this doesn't really seem to be correlated with age or anything like that it just seems to. To be that instead of the fanciful notion of the sire, and how you can kill the sire, and it will kill then entire lineage vampires that this is genetic in nature, and it doesn't seem to be logical that killing. Michael would turn off those genes in all of the other vampires, so I think that if you killed him, they would also all still stay vampires, and so he's probably not going to be stronger than the others just by virtue of being the first in this new emergence of an old prion disease. We're going to go on a quick break and when we come back, we're going to talk about this episode. As it relates to luther versus Michael and some questions, it gives us as well as the concept of brother fighting brother. Stay tuned. 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Come back before the break we were catching up with where Kaley and the others are in this episode including Luther meeting up with Rachel and lying to her about bringing their son does with them Rachel did not like this, and it was a very fraught situation, but a DNS agent who actually seems pretty chill goes ahead and bails him out and he's fine. However, some cops have called in that they have found. And then they disappeared somewhere in the woods, trying to look for him. So DNS weirdly allows luther to help hunt for Michael. And Michael has definitely gotten superstrong. We knew he was strong earlier when he broke that porcelain sink, but seeing that he's been able to impale someone on a blunt tree limb is pretty hardcore. And this episode does a lot in how it is approaching. The narrative of. The relationship between all of the characters. We see a lot in this. We see the interactions between Luther and Dez and Luther ex wife, and also Michael and Luther. And it just really is evocative of concept of brother against brother. And I mean that both in the civil war reference, and also in the biblical philosophical reference. So brother against brother is also. Often used as an allusion to the civil war, and that can be the civil war in the United States, or also these civil war from the avengers. It's a civil war where you're fighting against others from your own group. Essentially it's infighting and it's about obtaining rights for a group. We haven't really gotten that far into the story yet, but we do know that Michael and Luther are essentially brothers, maybe not by blood, but certainly by bond. And this is really bidding them against each other. And we see that in many ways where Michael isn't listening to Luther and he's putting Luther and a sketchy situation by asking him to help him cover up a crime, and then luther, even though he believes that Michael needs help, he is still going and reporting him to the cops to get him into custody so that they can try. Get Him some help although that is certainly misguided, but you can understand perhaps why. Luther took that approach a system that didn't seemingly give him any other emergency alternatives. It's not a great system. But Luther has really betrayed. His brother in his brother's is because it has led to him being arrested and being cuffed to his hospital table. As well. We also see that luther is not entirely trusted by Michael and Michael is really kind of scary in Luther. Opinion Right now. He feels that his brother won't really hurt him, but he knows he's very capable of hurting other people. However, Luther still knows that deep down Michael is still. Who He was before? He's still a good person. It's not. He's a bad person in any way is. Luther says he's just sick right now. So Luther goes on the hunt with them, and he ends up seeing the body of the COP. WHO's been put up on the tree and Luther gives him a call to give Michael. A heads up that thereafter him. Now we see that Luther is still on the side of Michael Right now. Luther is on the side of truth and of protecting people, and he doesn't think that killing Michael is going to solve this problem at all. And furthermore, he doesn't really want to see his brother harmed. He honestly does believe what he is telling Dns. I think it's a little bit weird. We didn't get to see Luther more upset or in morning about his wife's death is his current wife at the time jess. Especially considering, he had to kind of beat her to death with an iron. But I suppose he doesn't have a lot of time for grief right now. He's kind of living in a war zone, and he's under constant pressure from DNS and having to worry about how this is affecting his son, and whether he's going to be able to stop this before it becomes a true pandemic, and whether they're going to catch and kill his brother. So he is really going through. Quite a bit. So I guess that we have a lot going on this episode, we have monster turning into a vampire monster, and he's part of a motorcycle club or gang, which is kind of like a fraternity in the basic sense of the word that it's a group of brothers, so a lot of this is about brotherhood. It's about the difference between. Bonds through blood, and how kinship is not necessarily defined by blood, but how those kinship lines or those bonds can be realigned and changed almost like an Vin diagram way as people change over time. I firmly do believe that we can be many different people in our lives and I don't mean wholly different personalities or anything like that just that we are both nature and nurture. We are cultural animals, so we can take parts of who we were originally and. Based on our environment based on what happens to us. And we're taking this quite literally in v Wars oftentimes because epigenetics is a component of how your environment can act your gene expression how it's affecting who you are how you express yourself. You're phenotype, but that can happen culturally as well so it's not just that Michael is undergoing these changes on. A pheno typic- level, but also that he is having. This reckoning with his relationship with Luther, and what that is based on, and Luther is trying to still find the person in Michael who Michael was before, but sometimes parts of us do die along the way and loving someone is largely about learning to love them and accept them as they are now. That doesn't mean that you have to make excuses for toxic traits. People can be definitely toxic even in ourselves sometimes we can be the toxic individuals were the heroes in our own stories, but we are possibly the villains in people's stories or even just NPC's. So, we're seeing that Michael is taking a different approach here. I. Think that perhaps as time goes by, he may understand Luther perspective a little more, but he still in the early stages of being hurt by what Luther has done in turning him in. He thought that he could trust his brother above all else to help him out. Even when it came to covering up a crime, but we see that Luther while he cares deeply for his brother. Also has some deeply held beliefs that are really kind of messing with him and his personal integrity, regarding the situation that Michael is in right now. So it is kind of pitting brother against brother, and it's like the avengers civil war that way as well. We saw Captain America and Tony Stark Fighting, and indeed they were in many ways like brothers, not just in the relationship that they have is adults, but also in the way that Howard stark treated Tony and treated cap. And they both. Had, sincerely deeply held beliefs, regarding why they thought that superheroes should be registered or why they shouldn't be, and we see that happening with Luther and with Michael as time goes on as well and the Vampires wanting to be recognized as the creatures that they are because after all they haven't changed in their DNA at all. It's just the expression of DNA. That was already there based on an EPA genetic change, so they are. Perhaps still even the same species we're not sure if humans and Vampires in this story can breed together. Maybe they can, they are reproductively compatible based on her sexual organs, but I don't know if enough has changed to make them incompatible with this new EPA genetic component. I want to hypothesize that they technically could. Breed with each other vampires into humans, because these sections of DNA were already in their bodies. Remember epigenetics does not change the DNA itself doesn't change the genetic code. It just changes its expression. epigenetics turns jeans on and off, so this vampire gene was turned off in these folks until they came into this encounter with the Priante, whether that's through sexual relations, respiratory droplets or interactions with saliva. So, we know that that was there all along. So unless there's something on that section of the EPA genetics that have been turned on, that would also affect reproduction. Then you very well could have vampire, human hybrids in a show or vampire children born to other vampires. I'm kind of stoked to see where that goes, and I'm super tempted to pick up all of the graphic novels for this series. I love the concept of brotherhood this in the show. It's not just about vampires. It's not just about science and climate, change and EPA genetics and. SOCIOCULTURAL staff and socio politics which we get into more in the next few episodes, but it is largely about family dynamics. That's one of the things I love the most about. Korea Diet, and that's also one of my favorite things about the vampire diaries series, including the spin offs, the originals and legacies you start out thinking that it's like twilight and that it's about. A couple of vampires who are in love with a teenage girl, but it becomes so much more than not, and you realize later on that that show is also not about the girl at all. It's about the relationship between the brothers, and really her character is just meant to mediate that story between the two and to help develop the story further. Some of my favorite episodes in Vampire diaries do not feature Elena at all. Don't get me wrong Nina. Dobrev is a great actress and I loved her work to, but I really enjoyed that dynamic between the brothers, and that's also something that I enjoy in shows like supernatural and in the dynamics of the team. Team in Stargate st one. It's about family, and sometimes it's about found family and other times. It's about just fighting within your family when you have different beliefs or different approaches to the problem, and you see that in some parts of the Bible as well. I am not particularly religious at this point in my life, but I have read the Bible quite a bit growing up. Read the entire book quite familiar with it, so there is a part of it that this episode reminded me of where Jesus is speaking to a group of folks, and says that he is not there to bring peace, per se, but a sword and two pit brother against brother. Family members against family members a long list of different types of family members. And really it's about a path diverged and families being put at odds due to their specific beliefs or desires. And in the Bible and it's really meant to say hey. I'm just really here to bring you the truth a lot of times the truth is represented as a sword, and that includes both in a lot of video games. I like to play. And in the Bible there's one section and a Fijian's that talks. The helmet of salvation, and the sword of the spirit, which is defined in there as being the word of God or really the Bible which is also referred to as being the ultimate truth, so perhaps he is also referring to the concept that he is just bringing forth the truth and presenting it there and people are going to make their own decisions and value judgments based on their beliefs, and that perhaps the ties of family will not be strong enough in and of themselves to maintain those bons. And that's what we see really here where the truth is. That Michael is not any genetically different. He's only EPA genetically different. His DNA hasn't changed just as expression just as it did with Jess and Luther, his brother still loves him, but he also believes that Michael can't keep going around and killing people drinking their blood that that's not okay, so luther thinks that this is something that needs to be cured, and for folks like Michael Perhaps. This is just a natural result of evolution, and it's who he is as a person and he doesn't want that to be. Something that should be down or being sought to? Extinguish which is what DNS and the other seemed to be doing, and what Luther seems to be doing, so Michael is on the run from all of them. And as much as luther wants to help him, though, and as much as luther wants to make sure that Michael is treated, he's also not willing to put Michael in a situation to be killed. Now that he has understood his mistake in reporting Michael to the cops to begin with, so he does call his brother and give him a heads up that he needs to run while they are in the forest is dns going to find out about that I'm not entirely sure. It's going to be bad news bears if they do. and. It could really put luther son does at risk, but I'm sure that that is something that Luther is already aware of and this tie to his brother Michael is still important enough for him to take that chance. We're going to go on a quick break and when we come back, we're going to talk about this concept of Emily, Dickinson's because I could not stop for death. which is the title of this episode stay tuned? Watch TV has changed over time. Streaming has become the new norm. That's why golden state media concepts television podcast dives headfirst to the world of cord, cutting to be on the Blue Book. What's hot and Netflix or if it's not a preference original shows in Hulu? We've got you covered. Join us as we the blank and talk about movies to stream, and what show you should be vigilant. This is golden state media concepts television podcast. I! Combat moves for the break. We were talking about the concept of brother against brother. Allusions to the civil war both the American type and the marvel type, which is also American in its own way I suppose, and then the Bible verses that are related to the sword of Truth and. Putting brother against brother, which is really what this episode seems to be about in my personal opinion. There's a truth that has been presented to everyone, and that is that this EPA genetic change is something that's natural. It's already in. Human DNA is natural in the most literal sense of that word and nurture has impacted nature. And so this is viewed as a disease by some people that it needs to be exterminated or just removed from the body, so that they become regular humans again and for others who are living with this. It's not really an illness to them. And that reminds me somewhat of folks in the Deaf Community or folks who are living with different types of dwarfism. Some folks think that they should be working on trying to hear if they're deaf. They think that deaf folks should get cochlear implants or get hearing aids and a lot of hearing. People do not understand why folks in the deaf community might shun that why they might not want to be in the hearing community, but indeed many deaf individuals do not, and when we talk about the deaf community, we talk about deftness with a capital, D. because it is their community, so that does mean something different. And one of my friends is an ASL interpreter. And she has also spoken recently to me about how cove in nineteen is disproportionately impacting people who are in the deaf and hard of hearing community, because with all these masks, they can't read folks lips, and they also are not able to see some of the cues that go along with ASL. For the hearing community for those of us who aren't really familiar with ASL a lot of us think of it as primarily being hand and move ments, but there are very many facial expressions that also accompany the different signs for different words and the different things, so if you're out there, and you're wanting to make these face shields, the space masks for folks. Maybe consider making the kind that have the plastic shielding around the mouth that is translucent or transparent, so that folks in the deaf and hard of hearing communities can also understand what you're saying. I can only imagine how jarring may be to not be able to suddenly understand why anyone around you is saying in something that is truly about apocalyptic right now much as it is apocalyptic in V wars, so keep that in mind, and if you are making those masks, or you're purchasing one for yourself, even if you do not personally know anyone in the deaf or hard of hearing community I really encourage you to think about getting those. Those types of masks just to really be considerate of others around us after all. That's also the point of the masks. So while we're out there being considered about spreading germs, we might as well also be considerate about how we are communicating with the world around us, including those who are not necessarily just like us. We are only as safe or protected as the most vulnerable among us and I think that's important to keep in mind. Similarly in Communities Lake the dwarfism community. There are people out there who have different lives than we do, and it's not necessarily considered to be disability. Just as many folks in the deaf community do not consider deftness to be a disability. Their community is much like the hearing community, but it also has some really wonderful cultural differences. It's not about just being different from the hearing community. Its own community in and of itself, and it's valuable in its own right as is the dwarfism community, some types of deafness, just like dwarfism are genetic in their basis. So this is just some human variation that is encoded in our DNA. And, very similarly weaken view this type of vampirism in this specific instance of the wars as not being something unnatural. It's not disability. It's not an illness from where the people who are experiencing it stand and I think that's one of the largest values of Scifi. SCIFI provides allegories for understanding different communities or context in the world around us through representation in ways that might be more stark or so by making it vampirism, it takes some of the wind out of the sales of folks who might get their chests. A little puffed up with outrage win. You are saying that something like this is not a disability or an illness, but they're very many people out there in the world who undergo similar types of issues, not in that they are sucking the blood out of other people just that at the. The very base level, they have genetic or EPA genetic components that are different from people who don't have those genetic components or don't have those genes expressed, and just because you or jeans or expressing one way does not mean that the gene expression that is happening around you and other individuals is necessarily a disability or an illness, and that's really another strong point that I. Get out of this episode so. That's the big difference here is that it's almost offensive in a way that luther is viewing this as an illness to Michael, so Michael is kind of figuring out that this is who he is as a person, and after the initial onset of transitioning into vampirism, once those EPA genetic changes have already taken place he doesn't. To have as severe bloodlust, he's not having the headaches and stuff anymore, and he seems to have mastery over these super senses. So for him, this is becoming a normal way of life. Humans can adapt to anything that they can become accustomed to, and that is what is happening with Michael and the other vampires that have been exposed to these pre ons, and who's EPA. Genetic changes have responded in a way that has resulted in them expressing vampiric pheno typic- changes. This is their new normal much. The same as some folks in the real world today who become exposed to substantial amounts of air pollution and get their methold tags altered in their DNA. Scientists have found that that could increase a person's risk for neurodegenerative disease, but for many folks. What is one person's disease or disability or is another person's just flat out reality for people who don't live with these things day to day with these experiences and so on, it might be difficult to understand, but it's important that you seek to understand on your own. And if you're interested in that type of concept I, encourage you to check out shows like V wars because that's the crux of this episode at least in my opinion. If Michael just wanted to go through and kill tons of people he could, but he sits down and speaks with the lady who was blind at the bus. Stop about her life, and what? It's like for her to be sitting there at the bus, stop blind. He has super senses, and her senses are different from his. And he wants to understand it, and he takes the time to speak with her, and then he leaves without harming her, even though he very well could, he's not interested in harming the most vulnerable as he considers it around him. He is interested in eating to survive for the most part. But you have other characters like monster who is in the Motorcycle Club who's clearly turned in his willing to just kill anyone, but again much like how Danika was more selfish beforehand and Michael was more selfless beforehand, someone who already had a pinch. Sean towards violence very well may be extra violent after they have turned. So it makes a lot of sense as we are seeing this spectrum of vampirism expression, and how everyone is really reacting differently based on their initial pre vampiric personalities, but I think that all of us can change in our character and our personality as time goes on, and even if you are. A distasteful person at a certain time in your life, you can change your mind and do better because we are made up of the choices that we make every single day, and because of that that means that any time is a great time to begin making change. So if you did not have an understanding of. variances related to the dwarfism community or the deaf community before and how many folks don't consider those to be illnesses or disabilities? I encourage you to read more about that online or to reach out to websites like little people of America to learn on their website from folks who are living that experience to see what they want you to understand about their experience. You can also go to websites like national deaf. Deaf Center DOT ORG to get an introduction to the deaf community by the deaf community in a preformed way, that puts the emotional labor onus on you, and not on grilling people from these communities about information that is easily read about online I so this website will tell you about some of the unique features of deaf culture and little people of America will tell you about some unique features of fair culture. And you can also explore the wide range of variability in dentistry within these cultures, and how folks identify as not all deaf individuals identify with color in whole or in part. We're going to see that concept explored a lot more in V wars as we see more types of vampires be. Born activated I'm not exactly sure how to refer to it in this context, but as we see these EPA, genetic changes brought about by the preowneds. We're going to see how different folks respond to it. And how different folks who have this gene identify with? What may be considered to be the vampire culture as that is actively developing. I also really love the name of this episode because I could not stop for death. It is from an Emily Dickinson poem of the same name, and it's one of her most popular poems that was written around eighteen sixty three. And the whole concept of it is about immortality much like vampirism here so in the poem the speaker is talking about how she's visited by a gentlemanly representation of death who takes her for a ride in his carriage? And because he's so polite as he stops for her, even as she is too busy to slow down even for death, she decides to lay aside her life because he's been so civil. And she goes on this ride with him and sees. The past of her life, and the people who are still alive, the lives that are forming even as hers is ending. As. She says that we passed. The school were children's strove at recess in the ring. We pass the fields of gazing grain. We passed the setting sun or rather he passed us. And so she's describing this passage of time and space as she is entering in to death. And they arrive at her grave, which is described as a house that seemed a swelling of the ground. But then it continues. The arrival at her grave is not the end point of her trip, but rather it continues, and she says that, since then two centuries, and yet feel shorter than the day I've I surmise the horse's heads were toward eternity. So she is viewing this as An infinite afterlife, so in that she is entering towards the grave, but she is not scared of death in an of itself, because she is viewing it more as an approach towards immortality towards living eternally. And that is really how the vampires are seeing this that they have an increased healing factor, and they are looking at live in depth in more of a cyclical balance. They are also perhaps looking at humans as being part of the food chain of that cycle of which humans were the apex predators, and now perhaps the vampires are, but that when human life is extinguished as we know it and replaced with. The concept of Vampires this new life it's not necessarily a death of humanity, but perhaps a rebirth or a move towards eternal life, an evolutionary adaptation in both nature and culture. Thank. You for listening to the GMC Sifi. PODCAST brought to you by the GSM. See podcast network. I'd like to ask you. Please subscribe to the show and riding a nice review always really helps us also if you could please follow us on facebook, twitter and Instagram I'd appreciate it. Thank you kindly and have a good night. 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Fun with NASCAR Audio 06-05-2020

Woody & Wilcox

04:09 min | 6 months ago

Fun with NASCAR Audio 06-05-2020

"Off. The woody and Wilcox Show I. In this case, the audience that you got here means it's time for us to do around of fun with Nass. Car On you and you certainly don't have to be a huge NASCAR FAN to enjoy. It's really stuff this just taken out of the broadcast out of context, and then we pointing gig landed sounds dirty. They did make some There was more news the NASCAR all. STAR RACE WE'LL BE BACK IN CHARLOTTE on July the fifteenth. Still. Don't know if they'll be fans there, but will be able to watch it obviously on on the team the. Let's dig into some. We've got some new ones here. We got some old ones here a some that I think you haven't heard in a long time. Some are maybe ever fun with NASCAR clips. He's close enough to it that he could just rub it. He returned Dutch it. On best, that's Lewd Kiss. Touch. Social distancing. Lasky to the bottom. Expected in their. packing it into the bottom. Therefore you seven four Fez thirty two hundred. or go net bottom sticks. That knows get a little air. Guy. Wonder Danika Patrick. You Leaner back too much. You can have a problem in the rear end. Yeah up and down. Like I told you when you come on the bottom like that. Mister. Johnson says hello new player in town. For sure do it as Mr Johnson. Stewart all, but into the back of Paul Menard. Bush coming out Alex Bowman is coming. If everybody comes in. I can get out in front of might be able to hold them off. He said he had a vibration. You gotta come. Joy saying coming in. Love Mike. He has the greatest sort of. Elections and stuff Bush coming out Alex. Bowman is coming in. Well there, you know. They took this opportunity and they are blowing the whole race track. That's one way to get fans to come back and an opportunity. At Marcos Ambrose. Bitterly as well looks like he may have a software right there. got a really tight fire suit apparently. Tasted Kane and Paul minority going at each other, pretty hot here. He goes to the bottom chase. Elliott goes in a little easier, but gets a big run uses that bottom? But. To The exit I think you really run out of Room Phoenix Wide Open. Talk I want to hear about runs in the bottom. Down Llegado to the inside of. Johnson. Bliss! ooh, yeah, you could see. There's just no grip down there on the bottom. He tried it he didn't like. Coming. Just coming out Alex. Bowman is coming. Your Fun with Nascar Audio, and it will be up if you'd like to go back and grab it so to speak. That part of our podcasts all along on twitter, at what are your Wilcox, is one of the easy ways to grab audio course. Cool beans also makes that into a separate little segment that we tweet out as well so. Follow along. With his coming. Oil Cox.

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106: Activating Wonder & Fascination in Learning with Danica McKellar

Kwik Brain with Jim Kwik

14:58 min | 1 year ago

106: Activating Wonder & Fascination in Learning with Danica McKellar

"Welcome quick, brain bite-size, brain hacks for busy people who wanna learn faster and achieve more. I'm your coach Jim quick three. Listen. Listen, imagine if we could access one hundred percent about brains capacitation, I wasn't high was wired just clear I knew what I needed to do. And how to cook food? Showman. Welcome back, quick brain. So here's a question today. How do you add more wonder and fascination into your learning and into your life? He heard me say many times that all learning is state dependent that the state that you're in is so important when you listen to a podcast or you read a book or you go to a class or seminar because that information gets tagged in king really combined with that information. That emotion helps you to remember it and recall it, and I'm really excited about talking to you today because we're gonna talk about the power of wonder the power of play some really excited to have danika mckellar here. And we mentioned that name many of you automatically you think about wonder years, and I'm such a big fan when he Cooper and growing up in that time, and but many people don't know, she's a math whiz and my say math. Some people are like love math or some people not such big fans of math. And she's also New York Times bestselling author of a series of. Math books, which I'm really excited to be able to share with our community Tenneco, thanks for being here. Thank you. I thought you were going to mention the word wonder one more time in there. Just just to help prep people for what was coming with the wonder years for those of you watching on video has paid of wonder wonder. I just met Jim for the first time in person. And I'm looking at a shirt thinking. Yeah. I know. I know what that's about it is coming. But this is I think it's one of the most important conversations because I feel like when people have subjects that are interested in whether it's math or something else that if they don't have a deep interest in it or positive association to it, then they're not really going to engage in it. They're not going to learn it really well opposite of not having a positive engagement is actually actively having a negative association with. Jack and math. Unfortunately, has a really bad rap math has this reputation of being too hard to boring too scary offers of things, and that's actually what inspired me to. I write math books over ten years ago. Now with math doesn't suck. Because I couldn't believe after I got my degree in mathematics. How many people say we what why would you study math? You're an actress what are you doing with your life, which is kinda funny? And so I realized I was stunned especially women would balk at it. And tell me people like confess to me men and women confess, suddenly I couldn't do math where I was okay. At math while but then there's this one test or this one teacher this one experience. There was this one point in my life. Afterwards. I couldn't do it anymore. Now is it not to me? There's a coincidence that that story keeps happening again. And again and being told to me again, and again, and I believe that it is because of a preconception of the subject because if you tell yourself you're not going to be good at something and then doing fine during find your just waiting fat piece of evidence to put the nail in the coffin. You already had set up for yourself. So if somebody is optimism about something like math or anything difficult, then when you hit a stumbling block, you will tend to see it as temporary stumbling block. But if you believe that it wasn't meant for you. Then when you hit that stumbling block in math or anything if you have that one test that you failed or the one teacher that you couldn't understand or that one experience that one class that will instead of seeming like a temporary obstacle. It will feel like evidence of what you've known deep down all along. Which is that you don't belong in math. And I think this has plagued more women than men, but it plagues everyone because of the reputation that our society has created for math. We think of math is something. That's just for nerds. Just for boys just for people who don't have socialized and couldn't be farther from the truth. Which is why STAN from the rooftops any chance I get to talk about the benefits of matters. Anybody can we go to math? If you put your mind to it. So math is cool. It's sexy. V A can also be boring and horrible. It really depends on the way it's presented when I was in the seventh grade I had a mass teacher that I just didn't understand. I'll come home and cry. You're naturally good at math. I was in some ways. But I wasn't a genius people. Like to say that. I'm not sure why. But it's not true. I mean, I was a hard worker, and I love the good challenge. But in seventh grade, I had a teacher that I didn't understand it on. I thought it was me students and anyone listening who had a math teacher a math class that they felt really stupid and can probably relate you never as the student imagined that it's the teacher's fault. You assume it's your fault. You assume that you just don't get it why because MAC has this reputation of being so hard, and when your child teachers are an authority figure kind of. Like your parents when you're young enough. You think they know everything being apparent myself? I know that that's not true. But at the time, I didn't know that it was the teacher, midway through the Uber. Got a new teacher and suddenly the same exact topics that he completely confounded me may says, and we're fun. And you know, what she did she made it fun. Like you're talking about having an emotional attachments. It's like a fun emotion in your brain tags your experience with that emotion. Yes. She would talk about functions like they were sausage factories input into value for x and then the function does something to the sausage factory. I it will slice it up. And then it'll squish it together put it in Vining or whatever does. And depending on what ex- you put in you'll get a different sausage. But the factories doing the same thing. So she taught us functions that way, and it was so fun, and it gives you these associations in these pictures in your head. And so I took that same philosophy. And that's what I've written my entire mckellar math line about to help people. Not have that stigma attached to it to shake it off. You know, I use a lot of humor cartoons. Whatever I have two funny stories because I from firsthand know, the difference that the way math is presented will tell your brain how to view it. And how while you're going to absorb it. Because a good teacher makes a big difference can make all the difference. Hurry. We did an episode where I taught people how to memorize para table without realizing it using creative imagination stories. I love that. That's when you use more of that right brain devices road. Yeah. It's fun thing. Something visual something funny. All those things so do not open. This math book is one of my more reason bugs is for ages six to eight and you can tell from the title do not over this math book. I've got an eight year old, and I know that reverse psychology it works. So it's full of comic strips in funny things, and I teach place value, which is a really important concept for that age. And Mr. mouse is always giving my little danika hard time about things, and it's just a fun dynamic who doesn't wanna learn math from cartoon strips. You know, why didn't I get to learn math? I was going through your books. I was thinking why weren't these available in school, right? They've been teaching the same way sometimes over and over again through repetition and people don't have relevancy of how they could use it towards things which well, and look they did change math recently. But not in a way that most people seem to like very much. It's called common core. Common. Core. Math. And that's actually part of why I wrote Jen open this math book because I had parents telling me, I can't help my six and seven year old with their homework because I don't recognize it. What is going on? This is addition this is how could it be so different and they call everything different. They don't have the same names as not carrying and borrowing regrouping in grouping, and it's just different in the break things down. And I do see some benefit to common core. I really do. I just feel like maybe it was a little overdone. So I even have a new math translation guide for grownups in the back of this one because too much of it just looks different using different vocabulary. Let's try to make things fun for both the students, and the parents, you know, what? As a parent. I love being a parent. You wanna be your child's superhero you want to save the day? You want to have the answers for them and help them get to the next place. And so I'm really excited that has Sony. Parents told me that they love reading this book with their little ones in the cartoons together and making things clearer could highly recommend the books also for that inner child inside of us. He's a little bit of healing along the way we were traumatized because we had to go to as a kid to the blackboard with our chalk and all the problem, and we'd into a well, we have feared numbers ever since seventh grade class and the teacher that didn't make sense to me. I remember this test, and like it looked so foreign I studied so hard, and you feeling in the back of your neck when the hair is kind of glove on that you get a hot, and you just wanna die. You just don't wanna be there somewhere anywhere else. But right here right now when that Matt has handed you, and you don't feel when you're describing it all. And I know people are listening. Going back. Literally going back to that place. The first forgave gave remote math doesn't suck. That's the book that a lot of adults will literally go back and does us just to face those old demons percents, and it's decimals, and it's fractions things that come up into the real world, which also happens to be very practical. And I've had a lot of parents, Tommy and not just parents. But just adults who don't even have kids will say, you know, I got your book. And I feel so much better because I was surprised at bath. And I didn't want to take that to the grave, basically, we're we're talking about fascination and wonder and enthusiasm for things I tell people that these aren't things that you have these are things that we do. And so people wake up and say, oh, I hope I have motivation or have focused creativity today. But then we're on like defense, you know, hope is not a really great strategy. But if you take it and say that these are things you have these are things that you do like their verbs. You don't have focus. You do focus. You don't have creativity you do creativity. And even this conversation. We're having about wonder he don't have wonder you could actually do wonder you could add visualization. You could add stories you get out metaphors, and you can add games. And all the sudden, it becomes much more empowering, whether you're an adult or a child if you're a trainer, and you have a team of people, and you wanna make you more engaging and you want to get them into a literally wonder filled state. You could add these elements that are much more, immagination and creativity and trout. Deji that just make it fun when I wrote methods like which is free sixth grade is that I want it to feel like kindergarten because no matter how old you are. When you learn something you want it to feel like you sound like a game like something fun. I don't know. I'm not as well versed in parts of the rain. Is you are. But I noted engages a different part of your brain. When you feel like you're having fun while you're learning. It's just different the whole experience, it'd be more different. And yet you're still learning and you're motivated to do it also. And I think a lot of people forget the things that he learned in school because they learned it in a board state. If it's information times emotion become the long term memory if the motion level zero anything time zero becomes zero. And then you wonder why you forget the president's or the periodic table or all these things, but you're saying that even students even if the teacher's not teaching which would be wonderful. They taught the way you prefer to learn that they could use their imagination and creativity and turn things into a game and entertain themselves. These teachers are so overworked, and they don't have the time or the resources some people actually use my books for that. And so of any teachers listening tons of fun tips in little stories and things you can integrate into your classroom just to keep the kids awake alive. My mother's a school teacher, she became a schoolteacher because she didn't know what helped me with my during challenges, but we sent copies of your books to my nieces and my nephews. And so there are loving them. So. I played here. Here says exciting, so how do people find out more? We've had this conversation about wonder, and I think a great next step is for people to get the books. So they could get it on was on Amazon and Barnes novel dot com. And if you just want to see what all the books are in gonna mckellar math dot com, and you'll see the mother mckellar spelled with a are at the end basing challenge. Everybody to take screen shot at this video or this podcast episode antagonise both in it. And then one of the ways of learning things fasters teach to other people. So if you take us nap shot of it Taegu's, both and share and teach everybody in your community. Your big aha, like your big takeaway from this conversation as always I riposte some of my favorite, and actually maybe I'll be able to persuade you to sign these books, and maybe we could give away copies to some of our favorite posts. We've got books ages zero to sixteen so depending on your kids age amazing. For six years older. Sixty six years old math doesn't suck or kiss. My math or stew. Yeah. Thank you. Want to double your brain speed and memory power if you'd like to learn rapidly and get ahead faster. I'd like to give you my brand new quick brain exceleron program. You will discover exactly what I teach my clients to learn read and remember anything in half the time. There is no charge is my gift to you for being one of our subscribers. That's K W. I K brain dot com or simply text the word podcasts. Two nine one six eight to two seventy two forty six and we'll send you a directly nine one six. 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Puerto Rico's Earthquakes

Latino Rebels Radio

23:49 min | 11 months ago

Puerto Rico's Earthquakes

"In Latino rebels does Radio Latino rebels radio. Who here is Sunday January? Twelve twenty twenty. And you're listening to us on audio boom apple podcasts pitcher spotify Latino rebels DOT COM or wherever. You get your podcasts guys. I just had a phone conversation with Donny. Gut Call toll of the associated Associated Press. Donny got the peas Caribbean correspondent. She is basically what the Rico she does. Fantastic work. Latino rebels is an API member so we've been publishing shing a lot of Danika stories in the last year in places like what we go. Haiti the Bahamas but I wanted to get Donna. Gone the phone to talk about the earthquakes and Puerto Origo. So here is the phone conversation that I just had with Donga on Latino rebels radio. Hey Danika. Welcome to Latino rebels radio. Thank you so much. Thanks for taking times from all your reporting to talk to us. Thank you very much for having so We're talking on Sunday age. January twelfth is in local typical and o'clock eastern. As of right. Now I think What do we know how `bout What's his situation in terms of activity and and and and also about the people that are still displaced i? There's a lot of activity in terms of you know people on self driving southeast. She's caravans trump cars. You Know Churches Neighbors Burgers individual people and government officials all of them taking water food blankets ca to help those There's one in four thousand people in shelters across southwestern else whispered Rico so there's a lot of TV in terms of the short term. The big question is what's going to happen in the midterm and the long term Giving them more than four thousand people oh well not staying in their homes either because they're badly damaged collapse or simply fear out of returning home and having their home collapsed on them. The question is what's going to happen to these people where they're going to stay in the long term The public housing officials sense to that they have out just for people and that they've also moved nearly one hundred people bull in nursing homes up to the northern part of the island. But there's still a lot of need long-term need specifically They are sensitive. They're having a supply. Apply the food and water but the big question is housing as well as school There's a lot of inspectors hauling around schools government agencies punch show for their safety. But those that are found to be unsafe question is how soon can they find structures They've already delayed classes by two weeks and started classes classes like two weeks And then some clear what will happen to those students in pools that inspectors may have onstage so in your reporting being in talking to people. What's the general mood right now? But then our mood is a lot a lot of anxiety. remember the Rico and and is not that prone to earthquakes. Most of the quakes recorded everything. Years have occurred in the north and northwest part of the island and have been slightly. NFL elsewhere across three or so. There's a lot of people not used to the seismic activity. Even though we're in a region where there's a lot of seismic activity was Makina North American and Caribbean play. And she's just say island is being squeezed together. And this is constant release of energy that is unusual for this Part of the island so a lot of people are extremely fearful. They're terrified those who can afford to do so I've gone to the. US mainland on a temporary basis others. I have sought refuge with family and friends and other parts of the island away from the coastline and yet others have just taken fleas setting themselves up in public plazas and places just like some people were they just ten days In the public plazas pricing you know city officials who are not expecting that others have set up tents outside outside their homes on streets sidewalks and right now there's just a general feeling like sightsee. A lot of these people already went through hurricane money Many of them have lost their homes or the roofs just two years later. They're seeing the same type of damage even worse Because they say you know you can't anticipate there's so. They're not sure what's going to happen next. So you've been on this. I mean I know that When the first activity happened Around around December twenty eighth. And you're you know you're going Can you explain sort of how about because I think that's one of the things that I know people focused on what happened on three king saying on the seven spot. Was this feeling exotic happening. Students at twenty eight or I know there was. I know that your first story that we There wasn't a lot of like damage report as or but how is that sort of played out since the twentieth. Sure I mean it's exploded really Ever since I twenty East ground has been shaking and then with the latest wake which was five point. Nine nine magnitude which they say wasn't aftershocks from the six point four that really set people off in terms of they were sort of expecting aftershocks shopped. Keep diminishing and when the five point nine after shop chain and all of these have occurred at a relatively shallow levels so definitely still being Are I felt very strongly in the south. And that's what caused a lot of uncertainty. People were sort of expecting aftershocks and expecting them to decrease in frequency on CNN strength and then the five point nine one his and that sort of rate fears all over again and it's just that uncertainty of what's going to happen when and Especially when people are not used to these kind of events in that region It's just reading a lot of fear. Many people I've spoken with they that they talked to psychologists You you know some of them cry and psychologists having going door to door there. They've been visiting shelters. They've been playing music. They've been entertaining children. There's sort of trying to help how people get this off of their minds And it's just something that's sort of constant you know people are sitting you know sweeping trying to determine whether it's like shaking whether it's them in their mind you know making shaking off friends so you see a lot of a lot of fear that really wasn't person after hurricane mighty mighty out because like many other people I interviewed said we initiate that we prepare for it. We know what was going to happen. Once it was done it was done. You know I mean the aftermath was horrible but at least we knew that another storm wasn't coming and so the fact that another big earthquake could hit which is a very very small percentage that that might occur? It's still very present. People's might not know. A lot of people are also sharing a space photos. Photoshop pictures serves And that's raising here. And City officials on government. Officials are trying to battle this. They keep saying. Please show these pictures. Please follow official Information Asian and so it's the culture that sort of spread Not only thirty second right. And and what's the power situation as of that's Sunday at noon. I know I know there's report says but if I was saying about ninety seven percent But things have gone into now album with look. What have you been able to have? The power has come on pretty quickly for many people across island on thirty in the southwest. They're still being affected by these base. That you know have have said I'll outages but The fear is that even though people have power. There's there's no backup when I mean the the the plants that are operating right now are offering upper limits. They don't have a backup. It's not full capacity so so it's still remained stable and again I mean. The power grid is very much fragile from hurricane money out which destroyed much of the transmission and distribution so they haven't started strengthening the power where as a result the parking money up before the earthquake hit and now on top of that they have a lot of damage on the land. Which is the biggest against one that somebody's power plants inside of the service so severe Dimanche You know employees are not allowed back in as a result of life. I point nine aftershock So any little thing Could settle out of at this point and talk to me a little bit Because I know you've you brought up hurricane money a little bit you've covered perking. You've been on the island I mean. I think you're one of the reporters that are getting like literally leader. I know you've done work. You know covering eighty and other places in the Caribbean but talk to me about the difference. That feels to me that there is sort of a difference difference now because you know at the time was the entire island right in the mayors like communication issues Does it seem like at least the response by the government. The local government has been a little bit more of Noticeable or what. What's your take on the washed? Well I would say that. Many people agreed that the best and biggest response just Hurricane Maria and communities and nonprofit organizations. I mean these are neighbors booking for neighbors nonprofits responding and maybe the churches Going to shelters I was at one shelter in a church group right near the midnight and they brought coffee. They sandwiches long you know was ecstatic. She's like the meal finally coffee. You know so The community has responded again occurring as the first to respond You know federal officials have said that they're pleased with the way. The local government responded in contrast with her she. Yeah where he wasn't prepared didn't have enough suffice this around. They say it's been a seamless operation But again the at least in the beginning was a lot of NGOs a lot of churches Individuals Angels I have several Oneself chat groups and it's just me they were going down to one or two people where getting stuff together. Let's fight tenses by I and so it's just all these individual efforts you get you know the road when you're driving down caravans not only companies but just you know communities and churches Helping out so it's it's similar somebody in the sense that You know people helping other people at the beginning seen some there especially those in the mountainous town where there's not that much damage compared to South Rico. But they're still you know. Crossing the walls are still no power no water and places like hi Julia and doubtful. You know something so they didn't. They don't feel that the response from the local government has and what about the west side. I mean reports coming out of my yet lists and there was What what can what have you heard for? I've seen a reported on about anything from the western side of the island. There's not nearly as much in the western part of the island as a southwest Mesa nations. Like my story Gong. There's been some cracks reported but overall very little damage and a Lotta politics surrounding those animals. Normal stuff like that are saying you know she's come here. We have shelters. We have food. We have water there helping out there. Sending Emergency Rescue crews volunteers to help out shows that the most affected yeah and then The major disaster declaration was was announced by Governor Vasquez on Saturday. I believe it was what one hundred million an estimate about over a little bit around hundred ten million or in damages Have you got any word. I mean anyone talk awesome female I know you WANNA medial with him on Friday with me and others Is there any indication that that The federal government's GonNa be Declaring Lisa South. It's the decorations. Only the southbound at all but What can you share about that Sir if you come? Any indication declared natural disasters on everyone's kind of waiting some clear yet. Be Ema issued a statement saying that they receive. You know the declaration that Governor Wanted Alaska's thing And that's about it you know there's no word yet And many people people are resentful. You know that it's taking this song for her. Not only to sign up ratio but for president trump's comment You know since I reported before for what weighty about eighteen billion In federal funds for her. She might have occurred more than two years ago. So there's a whole you know these fun and even if they are going to quickly so and then I mean I have been on this like I said I mean how would you doing. I mean I hate to put the journalism there. Are you taking care of yourself. I mean because I worry about like my journalist colleagues who are out there around on the seems like you know you've if you've been you've been out putting so much in with But in terms of How do you get through this? I think she'd like why you but you know what I'm saying that I said you are even worse. If you're there you know and I just WanNa ask God sure I appreciate the question and You No it. I'm GonNa put the the answer more to the people. 'cause I mean you're listening job. You know it's really You know this is what we signed up for and our role you know is to To report on what's happening must not happening and Sh- to personally answer question. I mean what what helps me get through all of these other people. I mean it's amazing and this is a repeat of show off and but it's amazing how resilient you know what Are Not only for the reasons. But you know Reporting from natural disasters in the Bahamas and away by drink of people And and that's really I mean you know as a journalist Shorts very long hours very little free a lot of work. But you know you see people going through role. Based on their sense of humor does not appear their sense of Helping other people And just it really really amazes me. I mean it's been sort of one natural disaster disaster after another Korean for the past two years. Roughly and you know that doesn't mean I mean people's capacity for kindness You know for the ability to help others when they themselves are going through. You know the same thing or something worse That's that's really what what keeps me going and you know it may sound trite. But it's amazing to see that So many people affected so many people less you you know literally without their homes or lacking food or water worried about you know where the children going to school and and sort of. Put that aside and Gable to have that empathy with other people. They don't know and help them out. It's just It's really a fifty. You know sort of offense you know all the long hours and endlessly so my last question to you is what's wordings in terms of your coverage. What what are you gonna be looking at in the next couple of days? Obviously there's always the risk that you know. There could be another seismic event on Saturday. I'm sure you know I. It just happened right. I saw so you yesterday like in the morning. And then you're filing and you're getting more. Your birthday was yesterday is what's what's your what's in your mind as the journalists what what are you. What are you gonNA be looking in the next couple of days or even weeks out? I'm not sure we have an important story coming out on Monday Obviously I can't stay in the read read and I mean there's just so much to write about not right now You know swells all night politics. I've been doing a great job on anything man they say Jay Moyer You you know all of them and and the local reporters has won. I mean these people are not only referring the big story but their reporting you know those stories that they consider and local so Elbows paid off our Not Saying a lefty will I would look to them as well for stories but there's so many angles. I mean the the housing issue Where children going to go to school You know it's just he's GonNa set off on another based meal and what does that mean for the islands. I mean you know we're not there to your position There's still diamond I to recover from hurricane money so there's just so much to write about and report on and you know there's so many journalists locally and internationally that are doing this So it's just it's refreshing to see that you know this is still an important topic is still you know. Be viewed at the Bay Story. And they're still so again. A lot of unanswered questions. There's a lot of Discussion about whether the government will on federal whether the responses appropriate this around compared with Hurricane Mighty So a lot of stories to come in weeks and an upcoming months Danika. We're very proud to be a team member. Then we're very very proud to be publishing your work and your colleagues work I completely forgot that you cover the Bahamas as well and we we. We published short stories. I know you did a great job and Katie Eighty but also the palm is. Just thank you for doing. I mean you do such amazing work. I called you and adopted. I mean that's the bottom of my heart on sheer ESA. Ah You know what I mean. It's like it's just keep doing what you're doing because like I said there's a lot of people that respect an entire union in our circles but also in in our community two people have been Really appreciative of your reports. Especially that you've been filing and also have shut out here photo colleague juicy some ourself so does are just been just amazing so Thank you may are much. I appreciate the words I'm Carlos g gee also shoot videos well so he you know twenty four seven. Now he's amazing images guys are doing fantastic work and I would. Also we'll stay intouch. Thank you so much all right cal. I WanNa thank Donny again. For taking in time to give such a excellent summary an update. She's a pro very Accomplished journalist and I really appreciate it her time. follow her Danika Goto. Da An icy a CEO. Te'o on twitter also. We will continue to Publish her stories from Puerto Rico on Latino rebels dot com so be on the lookout for those stories guys. If you like what you heard please please rate and review US share this. 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Danica McKellar Returns

ID10T with Chris Hardwick

1:25:27 hr | 1 year ago

Danica McKellar Returns

"Walk into the podcast number nine eighty four. If you're going to be in brea, California at the end of February the twenty second and twenty third I'll be at the Bray improv and then March through June various dates at the American comedy company in San Diego, helium and Portland. Stand up live in Phoenix levity live Levin. Oxnard zanies Nashville and wiseguys in Salt Lake City, Google that stuff. It's going to be on the new website real soon. I promise they keep promising. It's gonna happen. I sweaty is. Let's go to the cork board though and talk about what you are doing out there in the ten t community few have thing that you've made or something you want to promote for yourself or someone close to you you or you don't even have to know the person, you know, how it works just send it to events at ten T dot com. The first one is Shanna who writes, I lost my closest friend Erica to mental illness and early January of this year. Unfortunately, she left behind two beautiful children, one of whom is Jacob a very loving boy who has special needs Jacob is non verbal and autistic requires a variety of therapies and specialized treatments. Unfortunately insurance doesn't cover everything he needs right now. Not to mention that as he grows older, he'll need additional support to get the long term care that he will need erica's friends family. Have started a gofundme to create a trust for Jacobs care if anyone would like to help Jacob you can find out more at. The link that was sent is tiny dot CC slash four. Jacob f r and then J aka OB, tiny dot c slash four. Jacob losing Eric has been very difficult for all of us. Please help make a very bad situation a tiny bit better by hoping Jacob get the support. He needs to thrive now as he grows older. I'm really sorry to hear that Shanna and thank you for sharing. And and I hope that this is able to amplify that signal and help out you and Jacob as well also Dom rights I wanted to share my brother's YouTube show, we can't cook a weekly show where two people with zero cooking baking experience attempt to create famous dishes without recipes. I mean, how could that go wrong? My brother, Matthew, Provenzano and co-star Andrew nor I'm gonna say Venar, but it could be von ori- have worked super hard on this over the past six months and all of season one is on YouTube. Job for your viewing enjoyment. So go watch we can't cook on YouTube. Thank you so much dumb. This episode is danika mckellar who is very very very legitimately close friend of mine, and she's the best danika. First of all, let's just talk about changing young lives through math. And then also transitive ly- the parents lives to who maybe didn't wanna have to figure out how to teach math to their kids or held them out with their math homework. She has a ton of math books. Available for children of all ages. If you go to mckellar, math dot com, M little C capital. K E L L A R, math dot com. Mckellar math dot com. Her latest book is called do not open. This math book, and is available now on Amazon and anywhere books are sold support this support which he is doing she is a math genius. And she is go. To help you and and your kids out, and if you're a fan of the hallmark movies. She just had a new one over the holidays Christmas grand valley. So I don't know if that's still syllable, you should watch it just support everything. She does. I just think the world of thinking danika for hanging out and catching up, and and then letting us record it stick around. There is a very special. You know, I think at the end I'd been calling it ending word salad. And I got a I got a message on read it for Reddit user Colt. Smith with a why who just wrote three words word salad wrap? WR AP works on a lot of levels. So I think maybe it could be word salad wrap that to be confused with word salad wrap. Just our AP which would have been in a bad eighties movie. Someone would rapped about salad and words, and maybe I can justify through nostalgia doing that at some point. But not today. So stick around for. I guess the newly named word salad rap or just salad rap. I don't know. I really should figure this out before making use it threw me figuring it out. So here's the ten podcasts. Number nine eighty four with the wonderful, stupendous. And brilliant Denic mckellar. Initiating entity protocol. I mean, Dan, Kelly your pillar productivity because you were just saying about how you around the city because you just work in the back of the car while you're driving, and how do you do that? Without getting horribly motion. Sick. Thank goodness knock on wood right now. I just it's so true. I take it for granted. But I'm working on two books right now. And one of them needs all these approval notes in for some sketches on the book that comes out this year, which they don't like me revealing the titles. I'm not sure why it's a little kid math book. I. The three year olds are gonna tell each other and route. Exactly, yes, exactly. So it's it's it's fun. And I need to squeeze it all in 'cause I'm a very involved mom too. I home school my son. I share custody with his dad and so fifty percent of the time I have them, and we have so much fun. And we do all sorts of things that aren't like quote productive. And then one of the days. I don't have them. That's it. I'm gonna productivity machine. Just get it all done. We are productive teaching your son had to be progressive. Of course. Yes, we homes I home school him. And so we're going and field trips and we're doing math lessons, which okay? So I've been writing math books for like twelve years now. And my first book was called math doesn't suck is for ages nine to eleven I remember this because it's been maybe six years since you were on the podcast, although we talk pretty regularly. Yes. So personally, I feel dumb that you've not been on like there's no excuse that it's been this long juvenile on. But I feel like well, we talk all the time. We just don't record those conversations. It's too. Shoe? Well, we could we could just go to lunch every conversation. That'd be some. There's good to have some stuff. That's just your own just for friends. I'm just going to say that I believe in God. Crazy in our social media obsessed world, you mean, there's stuff that can just exist in the in the world without being broadcast. Anyway. Right. So math doesn't suck my first book and ages nine eleven and my son's eight. But of course, he's a little bit in math. Because of me, of course. And we're using that book now, so I'm teaching him out of my first book, and it's so cool. It's just like so crazy and fun. And he has of course, no perspective that most moms don't have their math books that they're teaching kids, method course. But it's it's just so great. And we have a great time. And he's doing so. Well, we're we're adding and subtracting fractions. He's finding common denominators. Now. We've done all that stuff and everything you're glazing glazing. No, I'm not gonna I'm just thinking, my brain just went to this weird place of like, okay. So when he's like sixteen or seventeen is his homecoming dance like literally just coming home and dancing with someone in your living room. You know, what they have? There's so much stuff. First of all he does sports. There's tons of leagues and things we don't have to be associated with mckellar Mustangs. Now, what does the great thing? It'd be killer math is sending that Los Angeles. And a lot of cities. There's so there is such a big home schooling community to so many people don't want to do the normal thing. It's so true. And I don't know if I think it's a widespread thing across the country, but it's a huge community here in LA. There are actually homecoming dances for home schooling. Kids, we go to a place for home schooling classes on just on Fridays. He takes who's taking chests for awhile and robotics. Now, these taking what does he taking now he's in physiology and game design, so but like board games, I had designed board games. And it's just it's like like a community college. We get to decide pick and choose your own courses because at home, we're doing math, and we're doing English and grammar and and science experiments, we just built a circuit the other day from this kit that you can get online. Everything's online. You have all the resources that your fingertips if you want to home school your Joe us from like when we were kids, and it's like you had to go to fuck radio shack. I'll be a circuit. Can't like, oh, look this this wet potato is a battery. Now, you could just get anything you want to line, and you still get any still gets to go to a home schooling. Dan, I need to do that potato thing. This is cool though. I like that old school stuff. I liked like they get down to the nuts and bolts really happening. It doesn't have to be complicated or new agey in VR. It's just this is here's a battery. And here are some wired you hook them up, and here's a circuit. And he that's why the lights going on. And let's make a little switch, and that's we're closing a circuit and the light goes on. And I I just love that. I mean, listen. Here. Here's a million times before, but it's it's kind of about the decision to home school. And also, you know, I think it's incredible that you're so engaged with with him and his development, and it's like a lot of people don't or either can't because they they don't work from home, I know enforcement, so oddly enough, my divorce has made this easier because I have that deliniation. Here's here the days that it's me and my kid and hear the days, I'm on my own. And so I it's easier for me, I think to organize my time that way because I know what I'm doing on these days the day that I've Drako. What's your Mondays? Tuesdays and Fridays never weekend. We're doing stuff, you know. We're going out. We're we're going skiing. We're having adventures we're going to field trips. We're going to museums were were learning math at home. You know, we're we're playing baseball in the back. We just do stuff. Did you have to get accredited in some way to home school? How does that were like so how does he? So what kind of a diploma does he get like, what's the process? And I mean, I guess I could make up a diploma. They're not really like legal documents. I don't think I I don't really know to be honest. But what I do know is that at least in the state of California. And I think it's different state to state. You don't have to have any credentials at all. In fact, you can have a farm and had your kid working on your farm and give them no education whatsoever. And that's not illegal. So for better for a worse that is the situation wherein when you decide to home school you have to though you had to report it. So you report it with the state, you file an affidavit, and you can either file an affidavit as a charter school a public treasure school or private charter school, if you're public that means you're taking money from the state, and then they you your kid has to do regular testing and everything if you do private which is what I opted for because I like my privacy because he also have to give them all sorts of data is like huge data mining. Then you don't take money from the state, and you're saving the state mining this cool, that's pretty much it who's wonder if like everything that we learned it's kids like most of your adulthood is basically going back into on learning. Not only just like the stuff they taught us in history. Or, you know, but also ju just the things that were insecure about are the are things that when we were kid that, you know, if we we're upset about something, for example. Yeah. Right. I mean, this is huge. I remember being bullied as a kid, but you need it wasn't look at hot topic. And there's no support for you went home and cried to your parents. And then they try to make you feel better. But now there's like a whole it's like it's got a label. Now, we get to grow up and get bullied on. We'll get you. So true nobody I mean, there's so much. There's so much more social awareness, and there's so many improvements in general. Like some sort of an app where you could just like sort of like task grab it like, you know, bully pulpit where you just can summon a bully to your home school kid like, well, he's kinda learn you know, how to like how to handle bullies how to fight back. How to not take anything personally? So just like some dip shit kid just shows up and just like your shirts dumb. You know? It's like, okay. Well know how you gonna do. Since hilarious. Great. Yeah. That was going at because I remember being both schooling employee bullied in school. And I wouldn't wish it upon anyone else. But it also there are parts of it that gave me some skills and some armory learning how to kinda. But then other parts of it, you know, just crushed my self esteem, but you don't like, no right leg, especially in anything as a parent. How much do you want your kid to suffer through it? How much is great. Of course. Of course, you're not supposed to do everything for your kid because then they grow up not knowing how to do anything for themselves. But like there's that balance that you're constantly looking for of how much do I want my child to have to suffer this feeling of loss for whatever it is? And how much do I want to save them from it? I think there's I think the acceptable amount of adversity is probably is probably what I call HGTV adversity. Which is just like you watch those shows and things go wrong the home renovation shows. But it's never any. It's like an old works out in the end. It's like, well, here's the thing. So okay. So he lost a little toy a little like a hot chili pepper toys thing. It was actually plans for zombies of the pepper. So we just like the whole room. Yes. Yes. So we use obsessive plans for zombies appear is back, and he had all these toys, and we were playing with them, you know, at the beach, and I'm like, look, you know, be careful because we could lose them. He's like fine. So because often buries them, and he'll and we never found the pepper. We never found the pepper toy. And he was devastated. But then after a few days who's kind of okay about it? And I I just thought okay. I'm not gonna work 'cause you have to order a whole set. I was like, okay. You know, I think he's okay. But you always remembered that less not bearing a little guy in the sand. Now on the other side of things recently, you hoops and yoyo he looks like all these old school. Things hopes hoops knew it was a hallmark cards instead of care years ago. Oh my God. They're hilarious. Go look up hoops in. Yo they have the funniest cutest e cards, and this is like twenty years ago now, but Drake really likes them. And there's a little character named piddles as little blue stuffed bear, so cute. He loves this thing. And he's like this tough cute little Kip. Yeltsin has really soft heart, and you can tell by how much she loves piddles. So we piddles disappeared one day and couldn't find him. And I don't know maybe like the dog got him or something. I'm not sure, and we always talk about being responsible and putting things away in in not losing stuff. But after about a month of looking I got him another one, I ordered. You gotta remember do you like I found it known. I told them I told him. So so again in parenting, there are no there's no rule book. You don't know. But I just try to judge a case by case. And you know, when you lose something where you're being responsible unusual. Learn the lesson or maybe maybe you don't wanna learn the lesson too harshly. We'll give it some time. Then. Listen from losing the red pepper from plans versus ambi- gotta plan more sunflowers to get more fun. And these just got to wait until the melon launcher pops up. Right. That's that's what you learn from that. Yes. That's what you learn from that. And you learn that vegetables can kill somebody's is the other thing that you learn. Play that game. It's so great. And those like that was one of the. Between that and like angry. There's there was like a handful of games that when the mobile game revolution. Really? I started popping like the female like telephone mobile game. Those are the ones I mean. Now, there's millions and millions of things, but but I I gave so many hours to plants zombies or like. There was another one that was. It was another tower defense game. But those fucking tower defense games are crazy. Does he play a lot? Do you? Let him play a lot of you know, what he's really into super. Mario maker. Oh, yeah. So he's got the wheel and he loves making these levels. And he's because he's creating so so usually it's one hour a day video games. And that's it around Christmas time two hours a day because come on it's Christmas and his home school. So he has to feel the difference between school and non school. Right. But but with Mario maker, I let him I let him have two hours a day because he's creating you know, he's building something. And he's testing it out to me that feels like it's not just video games. Video games are bad. But I don't want to judge just doing. Yeah. I want him. I want him to to not be looking at a screen all the time. But if he is looking at screen may screen, maybe he's creating something and building something and testing it out like it's a very scientific kind of thing to do, you know, really building learning. So we just because I didn't I danced around a little bit. What what was the decision to home school? Oh, gosh. I mean, his dad, and I decided that when he was in preschool because we had him at one preschool. So first of all in LA like sending your kid to the right pre. Schools to get into the right kindergarten. It starts then. It's ridiculous. So is already angry. I can't believe I'm consider wasting my time on but a good friend of mine. She's like, oh my gosh. Name the name of the school. I'll call the blanket of length school has Zoli one more day to enroll for preschool. And I and I told them about Drako, and they're they're interested in his application. I'm like, oh my God. And suddenly, I got panicking. Okay. She's look you don't have to go. But you should just apply. Like, all right. We apply and then he got in. And then my ego joked like, oh, he got into playing preschool. This is pretty awesome. Everybody sends their kids to preschool. Okay. So we got in and we start going, and it's fine. It's like a, mommy and me thing. I don't know why paying so much money to like go with my. Get a couple of hours a few days a week. But whatever, and then they have the next step up like after a year of that. That's where you drop them off. So he's three years old or something at this point. Okay. So young the Jimmy. I don't I never left the house until I was like five, you know, you didn't go to school of any kind of you're like five at least for me. I guess I'm dating myself. But anyway, he's three years old. And now the drop off version, and you know, I'm ready wondering what I, but I'm so I'm sucked in I ready. It was that easy to suck me into the whole process and he's miserable. She hates being dropped off there. And I said we'll. I picked him up after like the fourth in there like saying, no, no. He loves it, you leave and he stopped crying these starts playing so komax hasman Mike, Mike, go spot. I have I have grown meeting. Egon spy on him is see what's going on over there. And he goes back, and you said we'll Jake like sitting in a corner kind of playing with a toy by himself. He wasn't crying. But he wasn't doing. I'm like, this is horrible. What are we doing? So I picked him up from school at the end of the day and healty me panicked. He goes, no. I she goes. I don't I don't wanna have to paint anymore. I'm like, okay. What do we do at noon because many helix panicle to face, and I happen to catch and they review miracles? I like it there. It'd Blanco Bank school creepy. Mike. What did you say? I like it there at blinky lights school. Did they ask you to say that? Yes, he's rush. Crying in my vantage. Forget this those creeping horrible. I'm like, okay. That's it. Forget that enrollment another preschool that was like at someone's house, super low key. This is not a place, you send your kids this just just hang out and play, and he was so bored. It's like I teach him this. What's going on? So I started doing it. And my ex-husband was totally supportive. He was like, yeah. Let's definitely do this. My ex is an amazing Pano player and composer and can do anything on a computer and visual effects and graphics and everything obviously, I love math. I write math books, and we just like, you know, we got this. We got this. We both have flexible job. He's a composer. I'm an actress in a writer were home in those must've. We're doing some superintendent job in which case the other one has kin it works out. So well, does he ever is there ever any? Thing that you land upon that. He asked about where you go. I don't know this or do you just I don't know something I just go to the internet. I don't know. Let's find out. I remember one time we news pretty on. You said, mommy, because we're looking at a book of animals, and he really he really fixated upon these these little baby, snakes, snakes, they were hatching on vacation. He goes home. It can we see snakes hashing. But. Yeah. In about ten seconds. We can watch snakes hatching for makes watches. Click. Click click, and he was obsessed with this video to snake farm in your garage. That was going. Maintained his interest for long. We don't species a friend of a good friend of mine sent his kid to blankety blanks. Not that I don't know if it was that one, but to another blanketing a blotted he blast school and same thing real real insane to get in real competitive, and they get in. And he goes, it's fucking crazy. Because like every time they have an event they ask us to donate money already really expenses. Yes. I didn't even bring up that part. And they make you work they labor. He'll you. It's a scam. Because they basically use your kids as leverage, they're like, you know. I mean, if you care about your kids future, you'll donate more money. And then they have renovated kitchen. You're like. Wow. That's nice. I'm not kidding. I'm not getting Jimmy principle. Be driving a Maserati. I feel weird about this. It was super expensive. You had to go to this gala every year, there's really expensive to buy replica gets on top of the gala tickets the and then you had to work for the school. But it kind of have you over a barrel kind. It's your kid because you're going to want the best thing crater kid. And then I realized the best thing for my kid is me and his dad and all the sports and activities. Martial arts and stuff, we have involved in in these extra classes with other home school kids. He has a rich interesting life. When we go skiing, we go on a Tuesday and Wednesday, and there's no one on the slopes, so many good things about it. I highly recommend it. But I mean, look, I realized that I write math books, and so for me, I know a lot of parents are afraid of the math thing. And for me, I've got that covered. But I still I still highly recommend it. And I realized if drink wants to learn Japanese or something we just talked about a little bit. We're learning Spanish, by the way, right now, the two of us together, very fun. We went out, and and so I'll higher Japanese tutor. I'm already going to be saving so much money. Oh, yeah. Of course, everybody puts their kids in tutoring after school. Anyway, if you you know, because this public school in or you could use dueling go, you could use stone. Yes. He knows that too. I use both for Italian and I've been digging around with. Yeah. Yeah. I use use dueling go for a talian and Rosetta because they both are differently both. They're both different and dueling. Go is more dueling go occasionally, we'll throw graphic stuff at you. But Rosetta is very picture oriented, and so they just both have slightly different. And then and then like a couple times a month. I actually have a conversational tutor come in because you can learn all you can from an app, right? But then when someone starts talking to you and your brain provides, it's a whole different muscle. Right. Hold on. There's also they're also I guess like cartoons are shows you can watch because I've been looking into it where like easy Spanish, but we some show there's like maybe for preschools school or whatever in Spanish, and then you can watch that and start to or the podcast. Like, there's literally no reason you wanna learn anything. Right. You cannot learn. But I I was screwing around a little bit with Japanese onto a lingo. And and it just because I thought like if I was going to learn two languages at the same time, a romance language and Sunday ticket an Asian language. They're so different that there's no way to confuse them. Right. But Japanese is you're learning several alphabets, and it's it's. I wanna learn it so bad. But I also like, okay. Do you really do need to be able to read it or do you want to just be able to speak Japanese? I should learn to read I feel like I should learn at least some rudimentary to understand the character system understand the different character sets, I dated a Japanese guy longtime ago man learned a little bit Japanese. I'm like when we went to Japan for our honeymoon. And I love the language so much because it it's very it makes sense to me, you know, like, our languages, so colloquial Japanese does not seem to be very colloquial at all it just it has a distinct set of rules, and it follows them how make sense it makes sense. It makes sense all she went. So if there's a question anymore mathematical somehow, yes, there are certain their little there's a phrase that you put a thing as a question in the subject goes here, and this is the verb. And this is this, and this taxonomy is like it really makes sense. So it's really just kind of about learning the vocab. Yeah. Jerry. And I love it. I really love it. And it's also your you don't really speak Japanese with a lot of intonation. I think really much of an attendant intonation at all and Italian and is a solid nation. An English is so much intonation, and there's cultural intonation, there's dialect, and there's an so, you know, it's I mean English is not your English is a dramatic language, but it's a dramatic language. It's really English is Germanic language that has about fifty four percent of its roots in Latin which is a romancing. So, but it like, I would think English is probably the hardest language to learn because every there's so many dialects, and we make up rules constantly, and you know, because we're American, you know, like, we all kind of have our own version of language, and we invent colloquialisms and their slang. And and it just it's like, how do you Sperling? Like, we're learning Spanish there's only one way to pronounce each vowel in span. Which is incredible. Because we have so many different pronunciations for any number. We've got dip thongs. We've got all sorts of crazy stuff going on. And you can't tell from looking at a word how to pronounce it. Off though, I know the so how but I I took Latin for four years in high school, and it is I mean, it's technically a deadline guage. But it also it's life is in the fact that again so much of our root system is based in Latin and once you understand Latin not only can you learn, you know, the other four romance languages pretty easily or at least easier, but it really teaches you like you learn English, but you don't really underst-. You just don't really learn why we say things and so learning foundational language like Lenten sort of teaches you like the subjunctive K like what is subjunctive and what's imperfect and what's plu perfect. I mean, I learned that in French. Oh, yeah. The printing French I'd same thing all the different contributions and realizing, and I remember my French teacher telling me that French is difficult to learn. But it's always the same that live level of difficulty. Whereas English is very easy in very beginning. And then it gets super hard like tomorrow, I will have had three days of shopping. About the pronunciation. Okay. The difficult thing about French is that you hardly pronounce any of the letters. You're looking at was all was all is I say bird. That's oh, I s e a X anywhere was oh what a lot of extra letters. Don't look like the way they sound than has an old bit of Muniz stand up about French Reuss like know someone's trying to speak French lick middle school. Whatever would happen. He spoke French, right, boom. I'll never forget my French teacher had a sore throat one day. She could not talk squeaking because everything comes from the back of. It's a cooling. It's a few. But it's you know. But but yeah, learning which is teaches you so much about that you're on language. It's like you cannot understand the meaning of lightness without dark, whatever like you need the opposite. You need the comparison. I feel dumb for not learning which is way better quote. The quote is a blind person will never know the meaning of darkness, right? Okay. But I feel dumb for nut learning Spanish and living in Los Angeles. Yours Spanish would be very I would love this full. Yes. I would love to be able to speak Spanish, and I love I love the language. But for some reason, you know, my mom's family is a talian. And I I took a talion in college. You know, like Spanish we so much more useful. Right. But, but I guess just because of my ancestry like Italian you feel I feel. To learn a Tony that's very similar to Spanish. So that'd be. I I learned French in school drako's dad is a Taliban and knows a little Italian and his parents speak Italian his parents actually have dual citizenship in Italy. Now, they like petition for it. And they got it. So he was pushing for Drake Italian. I was thinking should be French. And then it was like, you know, what I'm saying teaching Spanish, nobody can stop me. And. The headmaster my own school. You know, when he's with me on the days of me. He's gonna learn Spanish, and you can do like the big alphabet letters all across the walls of your house. We used to or YouTube, and I do have the multiplication shot up and fractions up. Yeah. Absolutely. When he was when he was like two and three we had the alphabet. Oh, it's so fun to see I always liked school. So I like having that probably will y okay. Speaking of me, reading math books. I brought you latest want. And this book is it says do not open this map book. So am I supposed to if you dare? No, it's. Yeah. Brooklyn for six to eight year olds. And if you've ever been around a six to eight year old or remember being sixty eight year old you'd like to do stuff, you're told not to do. So that's why it's called do not open. This math book, and it's super fun, Mr. malice in there is a great little character. Mister, mouse's your frayed of math, the one telling you not to open the book, and there's yeah there comic strips cartoons. Mr. mouse, go to be a dick about it. Weren't you? Were you not set schooled working on wonder years? He both. I actually went to Harvard Westlake. Oh, you do. Yeah. The planet back and forth and banged worth. Yeah. No. But, but I, you know, I love look I've been an entertainer and actress my whole life. I love entertainment. I love math. I love making math entertaining, as you know. And so this is the latest this is for this is teaching addition and subtraction an earlier in the podcast. We were talking about how education is different now. One of the ways in which is different is this common core math. And if you've heard about it, but they do everything is all all different confusing. If you learn the math that we learned. Yes. I actually have a thing in the back of his book called the new math. Translation guide for grownups because I've had so many parents tell me that they don't understand their six year olds math homework. They're like houses possible. I was worried about middle school. But here I am in my six and seven year old are coming home. And I don't even understand the vocabulary Thome we're so new math. Yes. I mean, it's from the sickest Dallas the old new. It was the old breath. It's. Finan? I mean, he's brilliant. And it's really funny. And so there's a new new math math. And it's a similar similar ideas that they want kids to understand how things work more than just how just one memory. Yeah. So it's not as well. It's not just about memorizing versus understanding. It's about breaking stuff down and looking at the nuts and bolts of it and understanding that look, for example, we say, caring, right? If you're adding a couple of digit numbers, right? We're not. I mean, you're regrouping technically, you're taking the ones and adding them to the tens column or whatever. And that's you know, that's your e grouping them. So there's a little more intuitive kind of having. Right. Change barring drunk. You're not gonna go back, right? Regrouping? I everyone is resistant to change as a my. And I do believe in my own humble opinion that common core has gone a little far, I think it's a little much. I think it's a real burden on teachers because it's so different. So suddenly, but but you know parents too because they wanna be able to help their kid. It's some hot button topic that we stumbled upon actually, but that's why I wrote this book that's why I wrote do not open this map book, it's for kids, and parents and teachers and I get the best tweet. Somebody just tweeted me the other day saying that their tutors a seven year old and suddenly he's like turn this corner because of this book, so that's always that's just makes me feel really good. And you know, and I when I was writing this book, I'm testing on all the little fun things on Drako. And and I've got my little test subject the most important question. I think people listening need to know is is your son slithering. Ser funny. Okay. So drako's named Africa the constellation Drako, which means dragon from Aniko draconian. Sure that's true and Mike his dad had the named Drako before Harry Potter came out. So when Mike and our first dating he said, hey, so. Just sounded like to name him Drako. And I'm thinking we've been like on three dates. And then surely after surely afterwards, Harry Potter came out and. Thing. And surely after I got pregnant, and I was like, okay. No your nose like eight years later when I get so. And then and then at some point I was like, okay. Drako's the bad guy, and Harry Potter. We can't name if we have a boy we can't name Drake owns like. No, no, no. It's a passing phase. It's not gonna. No one's gonna know. The name Jacob timing. Born. We lower by the time he's old enough. And of course, he is a huge Harry Potter fan himself. It's a coolest name, but it is a cool. And you know, what else he identified was Darth Vader as a small child. So I think he's going to be fine. He's definitely always. Yes. He always wanted to play Darth Vader. He didn't want to be. So that's and he first song. He learned to play the piano is the imperial March. You're basically training your child to be an evil genius. I think maybe. All the tools. He needs to be the best evil genius. By job is is a grouping instead of bar winning. Exactly exactly the best anymore genius villain that you possibly can. Can you? Remember that movie parenthood? Of course, one of the best movie. I love movies Martin when his in his nightmare dream when he has sons up there shooting everyone. He's like he's at the top of the clock tower new. He's shooting down people before this is happening in the country. Okay. And he goes nine shot. Katie goes, it's important being cruising. Parents. Because he's he's having these horrible. He's having these really horrible anxieties about like this nine year old is like strategy on your nine year olds having emotional problems. He had emotional problems. They're doing everything. They can. I'm sure a lot of parents feel like I don't know what else to do. You know, can't you know, you can't control everything as a parent. And I'm sure that's like the the skill that you have to learn is to be able to let go but still support your kid, but not micromanage them. And you know, I know, and I swear I think the answer truly is simple and age old and just love your kid just listened to your kid and love your kid. And this is so far this is working out for me. When throwing a tantrum and everything. Yeah, you can yell. You can yell back. Yeah. And I've done that for sure or you can also be like, okay. Let's sit down for a second. Tell me what's going on. And just listen. And you know, what that's actually way more powerful than you think I want to any works when we have kids I kind of want to just like talk to him like. People because I feel because I have a friend who has a kid in this kid's fair like eight or nine years old and this kid for whatever reason just loves the wall loves it loves the show this game show up. Just fucking loves it every time I see him. He's like, hey, maybe he winter more episodes of the wall. And so, you know, like rather than say like, oh, hey, buddy. So you just go on here. That's coming out sometime this year, and I'll tell him about it like your dad should come. If we take more calm, and I'll kind of explain how it's so. Yeah. It's the ball drops down the thing. And it goes kind of explain it to them. But not in a not in a differential way. Not an not an condescending way. If I because when I was a kid, I didn't like I could tell when adults were doing and fucking pissed me off talking like that. You don't look I'm not a cat right to me. Like a person is the key just like just like socializing your kids like they're people or or does is it important to kind of have a delineation of like your kid. I'm an adults. That's out this works yet. No, no, okay. Yes. I mean, this is a huge big discussion. And I cannot. When your kid is very small. There's like this. They have the lizard part of the brain MacDill is at the MacDill. No, I think that but whatever it is. It's from ROY sorry rate book called the the whole brainchild. And they talk about the upstairs and downstairs brain and the downstairs brain is the lizard and the lizard brain. And that's the the emotional reactive part of the brain not the part that can really reason until your child is four years old. There really is only the downstairs of brain. You can't expect you to talk to your three old like a person is probably a waste time. Stop reading clause. Honey, that's what they do. They're lizard. Yeah. Stay sunning himself on the rock. It'll be fine. Fine. Right. So anyway, yes, it's kids are great. They don't have the ability to reason with you. So you can try to like you can pull your hair trying to reason with them. And it just doesn't really work. But around the as you four then you can start talking like a person, and you can start you can start saying, look if you do this. Here's the consequence. And if you do that there's the consequence which do you want to make a big like buzz-phrase for parents is let's make a different choice. Honey. Find into Larry's. But it's true. And it does work, and it's very non-confrontational non judgmental way to show the kid that they have power nice to talk about this is this to my son all the time, and I still do drink. A you have power right now, you can choose right now when this person talks to you can either blow them off, and you can shoot and that will make them feel upset or you can choose tilt them in the eye and say, thank you, whatever it was and you will make that person's day. That's how much charm you have an image power you have. And likewise right now, you have the power to get a few more minutes and video game time. If you're super polite, and you've finished your breakfast, or whatever it is. I'm going to give you five extra or you can lose ten minutes if you mess around like this is your choice. This is the power that you have sort of phrase it in in the way of of empowering them to to learn empathy and just till like, well, there's that Jim, but whatever the lushness whether it's for their own selfish desires for having more video game time because that's a great bartering toll. It's so great doing. Yeah. If somebody can partner with oh my gosh. My mom used to use that for me to know video games. If you don't do this great. And I don't know if it's if it's a cheat or not cheat code, but it, but it's great. And then or for something that's more meaningful. Like, hey, this is the person that this is a this is your great aunts. And she loves she thinks that the sun rises with you. So why don't you take a moment? And really explain him to you know, the right now, you can make her feel so good in her heart right now just by going on giving her hug or or giving her a high five we're just saying, hi, how are you? That's how you can make her feel the power that you have I stole member. When because you know, Drako because drako's Dadan are not together. And he was about usable. He was almost two years old when we split somewhere around the age of four is when it hit Drako that I was sad when he left, and I made I made some reference to it. It's like, but I can't sleep. I'm gonna miss you. And he goes, wait. Mommy. Are you sad when I leave, and he's is filled with tears. And I was like oh my gosh. Yes. But I'm okay. And it's okay to be sad. Sometimes it's like and just sort of realizing that that they don't realize the impact that they have. So these are all very grown up things. But. But again, you could just be teaching him how to manipulate other humans as he becomes a villi interesting about that is that having. That's actually really funny that you say that because that Christie from time to time. I I still believe I still believe that he's a good person. And that would knowledge is power. And I think he's gonna use the power wisely. But I talked to him about that to save parent. You can choose to use it for for good or evil. Yeah. You could end up to ten years now tenure challenge. How's he ended up being Ben solo? You know, like, you don't know or he could he could be a he could be a, Luke. It's just it's so hard. It's so hard to tell. But I think kids they're just inherently really opportunistic because that's survival. If you love them, and you show them good values, and you show and your good example. I think you're going to have great kid. Now, you were thinking about having kids like soon Asia's this. Why this is I mean, I don't know. Just extra interesting soon ish. But but yeah, I mean at some point it's rate. It's so great. I love it. I just asked me later when his old the no, okay. Because you're a guy you can get away with it. You can and your gold. Anyway. I mean, he's nice of you to say, but. This old this old love it. You know what? Honestly, I think that being because I was thirty five when I hit Drako I think that being an older parent like they called it a mature pregnancy is stop saying that. I was thirty four when I got to turn thirty five if you're pregnant when you're thirty five you're you're considered at mature pregnancy as like I was three or four when I got pregnant again that you're gonna have him when you're thirty five. But but. Technicality seems to your intimate. Sure pregnancy the suit we're gonna have to do with like, oh my gosh. You guys. Sure, you're not sixty. No senior citizen pregnant. Yeah. Nobody. But, but I think it's great having have any kid after you've had like kind of a full life already once established you have the lessons to offer. Here's something that I think we've completely lost in this society. I think at one point when we all live together. More multi generational, the grandparents are the ones I think who raise the kids, and I should do more looking into this. But I think is true. I think the parents are exhausted. They're having their kids through the grandparents know, everything they teach him. The parents watched the grandparents raise the kids, and then when their kids had kids they helped to raise them because they knew what they were doing because they watch someone else do it. And now we're on our own. And so we're on our own a lot of people in our twenties doing this. Once you're in your thirties and forties, then you know, stuff, they at least know something. And I think it makes so much more sense to be apparent at this age. Even though it's not how used to be done. I think they had. There was a distinct advantage of having grandparents around who by the way, the grand. Parents were forty you know, what I mean? So that's what you had see benefits to both see benefits with having kids young. So that by the time, you're in your forties. It's out of the way the kids are out of the house. Yep. Mcbain you get to start living your life. Then word like you. And I had already had full careers that we did. That's true when we're full of energy and I'll go kill on hour. We're going to go back and have a career and kids give you energy. We do guess I mean, I they drain all of your energy. And then they give you energy. Here's it's like, you never realize you could do so much and feel so good on. So little sleep foot that way we'll. I mean, it's like I think you're a good role model for Drako because you do. I mean anyone who is in the business. Obviously acting you can't control each like you do the best. You can you get parts or you don't you just you can't control that? But what you do have control over is you can write books and. Yeah. And create stuff, and you can inspire people and you can educate people. And and so it's it really is kind of the best of both worlds dot com. Yes. Because you you do that. And you you try to enlighten people. And then you also get to go have fun and shoot these hallmark movies. Yeah. I love it. I really love it. I love I love the duality. I feel so grateful to be able to write these math books. And I now have that eight eight books out I think on mckellar math dot com like ages zero to sixteen because the movies. Do you get you've celebrated a lifetime of Christmases Christmases and weddings? At a very young age. I guess I'm done. Well, I have to finish raising Drako. Yeah. I know it's been really really great. And but I love acting, but I do feel like I was sort of put on this planet to to help with math because I genuinely love math so much, and I genuinely love making it fun for them. And so to get to put that out in the world. Oh, okay. So Dolly Parton, I'm not sure if you know about this, she's known not just for certain things, but she's also has this wonderful organization called imagination library, and a lot of people don't know what they only think of rigid performer, but she has this charity that over the last twenty three years has given away books to kids underprivileged kids age zero to five over one hundred million copies of books. So she has a program where if you are a low income, I'm just curious be read to them. You're you're you just read to them. This is all that reading to your kids and helping them learn how to read all about learning how to read. Yeah. Yeah. That we're in peace. So so so anyway, it's just amazing what they've done. So these kids you can if you live in an area that has it is imagination library dot com. You go to the website, you can enroll and when your child is between the ages of zero to five they get a book every month until they turned five and to help them one hundred and my very my youngest books called good night numbers. Yes. A play on goodnight moon. But it's showing numbers in real in the real world was like four legs on a CAD five points star six size to a block. So it's not like a regular counting gonna actually shows math in real life and very proud of it and imagination Lavery. It shows it for one of their twenty eight teen books. So like two hundred and fifty thousand kids got sent a copy of all my. Yeah. And they do they do like a low low quality. But like a lower quality printing of it. And it's really super inexpensive. We basically don't make any money on it. But I could care less this. This is why I'm doing this. So they just renewed it for twenty nine hundred thousand. Again. So now, it's going to be an half a million little kids hands by the end of the year. And I mean, I just find that just so beautiful and you've change people's lives and changing people's lives foundational, that's really troubling helping them to learn how to read and count and understand that numbers are part of their world. Because to me that super important a lot of kids think ole Mathisen separate subject, like, no, no, no. It's part of it's part of your world, and it's relevant. And so teaching them from the youngest age to get that is just makes me so happy and I just found out yesterday. They just emailed to say, hey, my publisher was so excited because twenty nine hundred and they're doing it again. And they usually do that or not. But I just I'm just thrilled. A few years trickle start figuring out how to sneak subliminal messages into your. That he can become the unquestioned ruler of mankind's. Unlike ten years ten to fifteen years seventeen years check in later for that. What does he into like what have you noticed that? He's like is he into into super? Mario maker right now. That's he's all about Super Mario maker. And we and okay. Do you have fused speeds are okay fused speeds. It's it's an art project is an arts and crafts thing. So there's a picture a plastic plate with little nubs on it in a grid pattern, and you can take little beads and stick them on top of the nubs to make a pattern. Then once you've done with that. You put partial paper over it any iron it, and you've created some little toy for yourself two-dimensional toy. So because for Mario brothers, especially the original is eight bit. Basically we've been able to make characters the okay exactly like these super. Mario brothers characters. New original game. That's enough diversion of light bright. It's yes, it is. But it's permanent because you can earn it. And you have it. So we have a huge bag full these things we've made over the last several months, he loves it. So we love fews bees. And he loves Super Mario maker, and he loves martial arts, and baseball and basketball, and he's just a little dynamo. He's like a little has Manian devil. He will run around the house, and I just came from sports like free plays for us for an hour. And you had so much energy still how what is happening, and they'll just he'll wear his Super Mario brothers robe. And I had this funny picture of him where he like he just took off the top of the road, and he just flexed his muscles. They randomly. I mean, he has me like rolling on the floor fun. You know, he said to use those muscles to keep the Griffin doors down. I know because they pop off every once in a while you gotta keep going to keep those Griffin doors in their place. I've realized that I am. That I'm of a certain financial status now where there's no reason why I could not just have a light bright wall in my house. Just a wall. You should. I mean, this house is just the most fun house ever. You've got everything they like bright wall. He should do. Because all you really need is like you just need a light box. And then you need the black paper. Right. And just the little the little holes. Like if you just had all the holes. Then every so often you could just like whip the paper off rip it off put in a new piece of paper. And then just put the little pegs it again and light it up. You could do all sorts of eight bit. Why are you doing this evening? I'm sure someone will do it for NC, right, Johnny. Yeah. Signs. There's a science museum in Winnipeg. Whatever I saw these movies for hallmark in Canada and Drake on my mom come out and visit. And so I always find on the weekends. We we do some cool thing. There's always a science museum somewhere and one of them. I think it was going to peg had a light bright wall. So it's been it's been done before it can be done again. I mean, there's no there's no. Shortage of creative ways that you can engage people truly kids you can order anything. I mean, it's did you when you were growing up. Did you have one of those fucked up chemistry's kits? Did you? A makeup chemistry kits record like make my own makeup. This is called fresh and fancy, and it was what I wanted for. I wanted this. I think I know I was five or six years old. And I wanted it for Christmas Christmas so badly so badly that every day was like, mommy data. Really what if I don't get? What if I don't get fresh and fancy, and they seem so confident that I would I was like, but what if Santa doesn't see my letter of doing no, no you'll get in the cabin. I know how could I possibly know? And then I got it. I've never I mean, I was like it was gooky mess, but I was in hog heaven. I was just thinking about how I had a chemistry. I feel like I talked about this with someone recently. But I had a chemistry said as a kid. I mean, like volcanoes erupt and stuff like that. There was legitimate caustic deadly chemicals that came in there. And it basically it was just like, good luck. You know, there was like a skull and crossbones on it. And I was like, okay. Well, don't drink this thirteen and above. Here we go eight year old. You're exactly exactly exactly. Like, I burn my fingers a couple times. And I learned I learned what not to do, thankfully. I just I didn't eat mutate or anything that I'm aware of. Okay. Speaking of that. So young Justice is the cartoon series that I did for year. Why did it for two years back in two thousand ten is all about mutant since? So we came back for season three after how many years has it been? I mean, like eight years we were on Cartoon Network. I play miss Martian on it also known as Megan Morse or Mcgann, and we were on for two years on Cartoon Network one of the highest rated series they had, but we didn't sell toys and the canceled us. The fans went crazy. They want it back. They'll finally net. Netflix picked it up. I I want to say three years ago and people binged it so much the neck looks went to Warner Brothers and said, you know, what why don't we do a third season? And was like, wow, this really has done. Well, not. Okay. We'll keep it. Thanks. And so on DC streaming service. They took it away from the flicks. That's been photo. You don't look engine. And it's dropping this month. This is January fourth ten at fourth eleventh eighteenth fifth and then that's the first half of season. Three in the second half of the season three drops in June. And it's really exciting to see the fan response. They actually crashed the service the server on the. The first day by driven so lucky his mom's a math whiz, and a superhero I hear I know miss Martian got it people. Do forget that a lot of children's cartoons were crafted to sell toys. I mean, I remember working on Colombian show for a couple of years. And they were like, yeah. I don't think WalMart if I remember correctly. If I remember this is I'm pulling from memory, this was a long time ago. But if I remember correctly, I heard some conversation about like, well, WalMart suck going to carry the toys. So the future of the shows look good. And it's like, oh, yeah. That's right. These are just commercials for toys. He has kids cartoons are commercials for toys. It's really a toy business. They mean like with a streaming service since you pay for the streaming service. That is the best business toys and young Justice. I mean, it started off as kind of like more for younger kids, and it's grown up with the fans. They're like, Harry Potter speaking of Drako, it's more mature. Now, it's not for kids. I mean, they do stuff in the streaming service that you don't really do on TV people's faces get blown off and. Space get blown off. It's really dark stuff. Like this children's hospital and the bad guys are stealing kids Mitchell just hospital, and they're like, the doctors, I guess are your your your sister didn't didn't make it and really they're taking them into labs and change them into these meta humans like giving them superpowers and remember deadpool. Yes. Same kind of thing. It's just it's and it deals with human trafficking issues. And but it's really well done in creepy and cool and miss Martian in the first season was like this green skin cute little alien who who fashioned yourself after a cheerleader. She's a shape Shifter. So she can look, however, she wants, and then she's gotten more mature over over this seasons. And now, she's like this bad ass, cool grey skinned alien, really more for true form and she's leading the team, and it's just a really well-made show. So for like for grownups bucks for mastic. It's really cool. Yeah. It's really great. It's I'm thrilled about it. And I'm just we started recording the episodes of beginning of two thousand seventeen and. We weren't allowed to say anything about it. And I so I took pictures of I, hey, you know, in the recording studio like, yeah. Yeah. Sorry. You can't post that. Okay. No. Posting two years two years. It's been and it's to the point where I almost like a we shot, the twenty six episodes or whatever. And I was like almost over at my gosh. I mean, this is ever going to come out. Companies that like what are they going to happen? If someone says we're doing Justice what now. What? Comecon, but they didn't want announce my character because my character has such a different look season with this grey skin things. She's the leader of the team. So I wasn't allowed to say anything. So finally said fun dog about it. Yes. And it's a really great job. But again, not for kids, not the hallmark audience. I do that caveat because I've got so many, followers and fans who are either fans of the wonder years hallmark movies are math books. And so the the demographic is a little more innocent things, and you had a lot of things. So I love is mature mature pregnancy. Sure. Show. When mature thirty five so. Pretty five is so mature. I mean, it was like one hundred years ago thirty five well. Well, rewind in this down by thirty nine. But now, you know, it's like we live longer thirty five's not that old totally. We're not old never not all I just turned forty four. But I think that forty four here's the new twenty to go with let's do that. I love how. Positively. I wouldn't be twenty two. If you paid me again. No, we wouldn't want to go back and be like and like basically regress all of your wisdom, some eight. Oh, it was. So. And he hit delete delete delete to get back there. I would enjoy having the sort of the wolverine healing capabilities of the twenty two year old by I realized I'll never ski again the rest of my life because I skied a lot as I lived in Denver for most of high school in skied a lot in high school. We'd go to Vail or beaver creek, or you know, just different places in Denver outside of Denver. And. You know, you'd fall, and you still think about it and you get back up. Now, I realize like my knee gets fucked up. If I just if I just drive to mung. You know? It's like, oh, my knees. All tight I can't imagine just falling down and being like, well, there's seven months of my life gone for the next seven months. Like, just I missed the wolverine healing ability. So I so I take Drako skiing, and I I'm not far behind you, age wise. But I so we're done skiing for the day, and my knees do kind of bother me, you know, what I do. I kneel in the snow and so the ice of the snow like in Drake just plays. And they're just calling hang out there for a few registered, Christmas and Untung you feel so much better. We'll is is is is a miracle. It's not so much. It's not that the knee itself is fucked up. It's just all the muscles around it. Yes. So you gotta like because everything's connected on snow. I know you can have like if your back is tweaking on one side that can fuck up your knee, and the other side, everything overcompensating and stuff. So you gotta like all that. But I was going to say I love that you are so positive and social media. Oh, thank you. And I know that we've had this conversation. I didn't know when we've had this conversation before where it's important to you. Because you know, that there there's so much talk city in the world, and particularly social media can be a very toxic place. And you've it like I want. People who follow me to feel happy and supported into feel good. And I can't tell you how important I think that is because it's so easy to just think that the full scope of the world is just this toxic little bubble. And it's like guests there is that. But there's so much more. And it's so important to you know, we have to make efforts to put that in the world that we have to make efforts to seek out and consume that and like just sort of put that Sav on our brains as well, we live in a time where we have so much coming at us. So much information so many perspectives. I mean, we are inundated with information and opinions, and we have to make choices we have to be active in the choices that we make for what we are putting ourselves in front of because that will absolutely affect our mood and our our ability to be productive human being. I just went on a three week social media break at no social media for three weeks, and it's a good cleanser. And it's a good reminder that I don't have to go through my Twitter feed like see every single. A person who's complaining about politics. I mean, oh my gosh. I can't I may as just like people yelling and screaming at each other. It's in there. Then there yelling and screaming in your head. And whatever you were about to do just gets sidelined. It's the wait a minute. Wait. Let's be positive. Let's follow the people that make us feel good about themselves. And let's be person who when someone follows you knew make them feel about themselves to and show them. Not just not not just to make them feel good about themselves and what they're doing. But also to inspire them to be their best selves because that's what I want. What I want to follow. And really something when I was in Canada. I did a post, and I'm not going to go into the details because a little to private, but I wouldn't I did a post where I just took a picture myself. Like, oh, I'm look cute near mega right now. And took a picture like I wonder what that expression looks like what what should this message be? And I wrote, and I just was felt inspired nece. And you guys, you know, whatever the thing is getting you down. It's okay to it's really okay to forgive. And you know, you've got this. And then something happened in my I posted it in the morning that evening something happened, those kind of big in my life, and I needed to see that toast. And it was there for me. And it was stunning to me like how impactful was. And there are other people like during the day that were writing on my gosh, it really needed to hear this today. Thank you so much, and I became that person who needed to hear it, and it, and it was so impactful and so powerful to me. I was like oh my gosh. This is this is why I'm doing this. This is why just spit on your microphone. I I'm this is why this is having a public forum like this and having people follow me and trust me on Instagram or Twitter or Facebook, or whatever it's it's an honor. And I want to do good by that do right by that. I want to I want to fulfil that that beautiful really responsibility. I've been given and help people to live their best lives and to feel validated. In know, I'm a parent to one person. And I'm trying to do my best. I can with Drako and to give him lots of reasons to believe in himself and to to motivate him to seek out what he was put on this planet to do. And why and to show him and he has tools to drill store on the death star. He has tools to change his mood, for example. You know, I do every Monday do McCallum motivational Monday. And it's a live broadcast, and I do on periscope, which some people still do I go. We're just kind of on Twitter now and Facebook live Instagram live in it's usually some inspirational fun thing to motivate people to either best seltzer to have a good week. Whatever it is. And that is just so fun for me to to to to know that I, you know, whether I'm telling Drako, you've got choices in your life, or I'm having a discussion with all my awesome followers. We have choices in our lives to how are we going to react to this. You know, our I thought that we have and some of the stuff. I mean, I don't I don't think you remember when you got sober. If you did a or not, but I went to alanon many moons ago because of a boyfriend at the time who was a, and it was so there was so many great tools that I learned there that that I've applied my whole life. You know, whether it's one day to time, or it's it's, you know. Knowing what we have control over. Which isn't what we think it is. It's just us. And it's only just part of us. We don't have control over much down. That's really scary. It can be really scary. And it's also is liberating because especially in Alan is all about like, we're trying to control the people around us for having problems, and we end up losing yourselves completely. So the idea that we'd try to control other people that's not gonna work new and this then it plays the social media as well. It's a huge expenditure of energy and time and life force where if we just read your that to ourselves Michael Jackson the man in the mirror. You know, you wanna make a change start with yourself. And that message is right is like you so universal and important. I think deserves reminding deserved. So true, though, stick south, no wives. Real good. One of many new, right? I don't know if that was that was I think it is. It's pretty close. Yes. So anyway, this is what I tried to myself. How many after it's great because you get good at whatever you focus on and that can be negatively that can be positively. And even if you're positive ISM, and you have to ignore that. There are bad things going on in the world. But you just can't live in that negative can't live in. That's basically, you don't know, blah, blah, buck and poisons is just poison and then you carry it. And then that obviously there's a conservation of energy that energy is not created or destroyed it's transferred. So if you are feeling are, you know, and then you can come home, and it's like your family gets that rar, and maybe they have their own or they were feeling good. And then they're like are. And then they get into just like you're carrying why in power other people to put that on you and transfer their shitty. Like, it's gotta stop you. Gotta figure out how to make it stop. And we all have we all have that power. We can stop. And we can we can change the story. You know, we don't have to repeat the stories of our parents that we don't want to or people that you know, we get to make our own stories. We every single moment we get to make our own story. I mean, I think I think recognizing. That if you could of course, it's very hard. This is oversimplifying. But if you really if you could control your, you know, how you react to any situation. That is I think as powerful as if you could control the world because you always because you if you're able to learn from something and work through something. And you know, like, I said if you podcast ago with. With my friend. Ryan who was on? If if the obstacle becomes the way like if you could figure out how to figure out how to do that. Then that is a liberating. And that's the most empowering thing in the world because it meant it would mean that virtually anything that happened to you you could figure out how to navigate through. And I think that's the steps the secret to stuff not figuring out how to get people to you know, to like you or you know, to do what you want or give you this to give you that. It's like seeking validation from an external reference points like how do you how do you make that internal right? And that's what you're trying to show Drako. And so how like what's one tool that you just for people who are listening for themselves for their own kids? Like, what's an important tool that you've learned to do that with him? TD make his own internal reference point us as funny because at this age, he doesn't care what other people think. I haven't heard of that part yet. So he's he's like people are giving him shit in school. I was just not happening. Yeah. Know, it's really for me. It's a matter of showing him the power that he has and that's going to apply to to when he's feeling like other when he's wanting to gain approval from someone else right now, the only approval he's really seeking is for me as dad, so I'm not going to like, hey, in my opinion, doesn't matter. Right. Right. Right. Right. There. Quite there yet. But you're always there to support him. So you're not. The ways of the force. The raise the forest with the good side of the fours. Force. And then whatever he does with that is up to him. But, but you know, it's look it's about it's about realizing the power that we actually have and the power that we don't have that. We think we have when we when we want to have that we waste time trying to get the we'll never get. That's all that's really what it comes down. We've got power over ourselves, Drake. We've got power over how you react to situation. You don't have power over the external stuff you have power over what you do. And at some point that will apply to other people's opinions. You can't control their opinion of you either. You can do your thing. And if they're not if they're not Dana, then you're not meant to be interacting with them. It's look it's all in there somewhere. I don't know. I don't know what the answer is or how life really works. But there's something to that that we give so much power to especially people online that you don't know anything about, you know, actually, Drake. His dad says something interesting to Drako, and I don't think necessarily needs yet. But I found it really useful. You said when somebody. If somebody gives an opinion 'cause and Mike and I both do this. We say, look, we talk out loud about, you know, we share our thought processes when we're dealing with something and making a decision about something just to kind of show them what's going on Drako and somebody gives you an opinion about something. You have to ask yourself one. How do you know this person and to do actually value their opinion? Do you trust the stores? Yeah. And if if those answers are no not really then completely. You can completely disregard this. Well, enough to trust their opinion. You don't know if someone's shitting on you can take a look and say, well, it's interesting I'll take in consideration. Maybe that's as far as it can ever go. If someone's saying something horrible to you online. You don't know if they're typing with one hand while they have a banana peel on their head with a pilot dog shit in their left hand. Like, you have no idea where they are. They are with their circumstances. What it's like. And yet somehow we give everyone this equal amount of power over us. And you know, probably a lot of it has to do with the fact that sometimes people poke it insecurities that we already have like they've gotta be poking at something real, otherwise, it's just ridiculous, and you and you can laugh it off. But it's like they say it's easier to to believe the bad stuff from the good stuff. And why is that somebody says something really nice to you? And somebody says something mean to you. What are you gonna spend your day thinking about you're right? We're going to obsess over the thing that wasn't nice because because of insecurities I guess university to see what drako's jets you've purple. Head. You're like, okay. Well that. Doesn't that's not relevant to my life? Purples? Very nice color. I sure why not Billick whatever it is you if it's completely ridiculous. And it doesn't hit a nerve at all. It's not going to have an effect on you. You're exactly right. Yeah. I see. I see exactly what you mean. But it'll be interesting to finally my purple head analogy made some sense. So you're look at you're like if I go God happening. What Drake was generation does with social media? Yeah. Or what social media even looks like to to jen's e until they come up with a better name or whatever when Drako takes over mankind. Whatever he names us. Would it be? But but that like will they be as obsessed with social media will that always be thing if you manage or is that just a sliver of gen Xers and millennials and people are going to be obsessed with talking on the telephone once it hit you never gonna like turn back from it. It becomes a tool part of every life. But then there's other stuff to gonna be become obsessed with texting, but we can do much more than texting. Now, we can do FaceTime, whatever. But like we still do that. And that's my feeling is the social media is not going to go away. It's going to evolve at evolve, and it'll still be a big part of people's lives because that's just it connects people think anything that connects people is going to keep going, right? Yeah. I mean, I would imagine. Although as much as it connects, everyone, I also feel it's very isolating, but it's very isolating because of the way that we interface with it, you know, machines forces interface like machines were hunched over, you know, like they force us to constantly telling Jacob better bring your shopping based on your shoulder. God I had to correct I start correcting my posture like ten years ago, and it's still not great posture. Very important. Okay. There's something popped up on my phone two days. You'll feel better when you're yeah. And it said it was like a posture thing you put in your back, Mike. My phone's listening to me again like that happens. Right. If the back, and you put in your back, and you're supposed to I guess it beeps if you hunch over on, that's my guess because it says guaranteed to give you better posher next time, you're gonna open your phone. It's going to give you like you're going to be like buying purple head. Exactly exactly where it's going to start to settle your your rhyme. Oh, it already does. But even. Math education for you. I think I got this one. But here's the thing. Like, I just bought bought something a Christmas present from my husband on Neiman, Marcus. And I could ads for new markets for the same. I that. I got him all the time. I'm like, oh my God. I bought this ready. And I'm thinking you can I control like the ads the come up. I mean, if I were this kind of person, I would like just pretend to buy a male swimsuit. Right. And then just like Stacy like hot guys all the time. It was just thinking like this is ridiculous. How obnoxious these ads are I want to control what the ads actually are at the something kind of pleasant to look maybe I should look like a dream vacation, you know, Hawaii or something and just have nice images because it's been Barnes. You. Game the system a little to game the system a little bit, and you to sometimes you gotta buy things Amazon that you don't want to see you get better results results on things. You know, what I mean, this is like you go to the grocery store, and you come home and some asshole doesn't knock on your door five hours later. Like, hey, you want another head of lettuce like every fucking bought this? I know alone say you show, you show you what let us stop it. Right. I bought it. I don't need. Let us all the time. We got a coupon code for you. Okay. Thanks visiting late. Now, I'm going to bed relationship with Google. Stop bringing me stuff. I don't need this past come on. Just bring me things I want when I want them not all the time. So what's coming up next view working on a book? Now that you can't say what the title illegi ruin it for toddlers everywhere. But at least you're all those toddler message boards, the top read it would explode. So so my latest book is do not open. This math book that's for sixty eight year olds that came out a few months ago. I've got this new mystery book coming out in I think November. That I'm just working on. And I'll be continuing to work on Russia. Remover? Well, no, it's. History. Although I am working on mystery series. That isn't a mystery for homework, movies and mysteries. But up until two twenty s we're just seems a little premature to talk about it. But it's called the matchmaker mysteries. And it's going to be like a series of these movies that are mysteries play matchmaker. It's loosely based on millionaire matchmaker. She is an executive producer on it. We're still figuring out what my character's name is going to be. It's not gonna be Patty her name's Patty Stanger, but I'm going to be this. It's it's going to be so much probably solving murder mysteries. And the first the first episode will likely be that I've made this match, and then and then she is killed and he the guy is the prime suspect on like, no, no. I know this guy. I I did all my research. He's not the killer. And so I get involved romance. She wrote exactly exactly. So then at that point. That's actually a good episode. Name gonna pitch that. So then then it goes on and she so she becomes known for being good at solving mysteries. And that's and may potentially her dad's going to be a retired cop. And so she image. It gets involved with a cop kind of maybe an moonlighting kind of way. Mobile this now because I'm going to tell you about it. She's going to be like fuck, I wanna watch that. We watched that for a year year and a half. Right. I know. I love how you've just carved out all these really great pads for yourself. And I think you're a phenomenal role model in such a great human being and drako's lucky to have you. And I really hope that because of our friendship when he builds a death star is on the on the guy that will be. I'll be yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Just put in a good word for me. You know, what you know? What actually bring them over here and having see the Tartus 'cause you've got kind of turned his situation. He loves the Tartus. Yeah. Please. You'll have me like look up. The sounds and we'll just listen to the target. It's gotta rules control like lights up. It sounds and south at some point. He's telling her mom wanted to meet him. My mom wanted me Drako. Yeah. A little love. Love loves happen. Here moves you and my mom's very maternal. And so she'll be like I babysit for your anything. Because you know, we don't like she's been she's dying Kidby. No kind of had like take it down on can't. You know? What though I think I think it's time nobody, but there's nothing what you don't want is. When you're in a sexy moment to think like, my mom really wants us to do you just like you don't like a kind of takes you out a little bit. When there's pressure from the family. You don't not you just don't try not to have kids did. Oh, my my wife has good advice like has advice that she gives her friends with like we were trying to get pregnant been trying to get pregnant and you act like medically there isn't anything wrong. It's just not happening. And she's like you just need to like stop stressing and just have sex with your partner. Like, don't exactly like just take all the stress away because that's hurting you. So just forget about like just forget about it. You know? And then she gets people just getting about people get, and then you know, like. Like a good percentage of time. They'll just get pregnant 'cause they're not stressed or thinking about it. So that's why we don't really like. That's why we're case. It'll happen. What's going to happen? When it's going to happen perfect. Yeah. But I'm, but I mean, like, I'm ready whenever she wants whenever she is ready. You know, as I recall when we went to dinner last she was saying that a newer there for this. She was saying that she's not going to tell you. That's what I mean. I'm not gonna tell you. What's going to happen at some? Well, okay. Well, I'm not crazy. I know. So the plan. So this was planned for the longest time. She was like one day, you're gonna come home, and I'm going to have a puppy in one hand and an announcement. And so like, a puppy, and and then she, and then she said, okay, I found out that it's probably better for us to get a dog after a kid is born. So that the dog doesn't get weird and competitive with the so now, I don't know if there's going to be a puppy. And so I don't know. I don't know when it's going to happen. But. Drives me crazy. When people are like are, you, you know, if she says like, hey, I haven't announcement like if she's working on a show. I haven't asked me really you pregnant. She was like stop pressure is like it'll happen when it's going to happen. I tell you guys you're in that you've been married for couple of years now. So people are busy. This is true and a half years. I mean, it's not crazy that we would. But you know, she just had some other things like she has some stuff she's working on this year. And then then we'll when it happens when we perfect timing. So and I and I'll be there for your paper New York child's ends up being an east in evil mastermind as well. I'll be have been there. I and I can help guide you through the problem. Really? Appreciate the. Yeah. Well, because Lydia is a house like this. He's he or she is going to have our is going to be a science scientists. Yes, we use a slither in for. Sure. Oh, yeah. For sure, and I'm raven claw. So who knows what's gonna happen? The kid can be evil or just be like a comedy nerd, I I don't know. So the hallmark movies and the math books and. Dot com. You can find all the books like big big slider button. And I'm very proud of because you can slide the by and it'll based on your kids age, they'll tell you the right book grew I was obsessed with this idea when I was creating to website, I'm like, okay. And there's going to be a big slider button. On the Snyder by people can click slide on it. And then can show seal the books because it's just like when the list is long enough like okay already. How are you gonna keep trying to grow people filter through that stuff? With a big flyer. Buds will you're brilliant dynamo. And I appreciate everything that you do for mankind in our culture and for kids in education. And you know, we gotta go dinner. We all have to get to dinner against fun. Now, we definitely will. Yeah. It's great. And Chris I just love. I'm glad to be here. And we'll do it again. I hope so not six years and your husband was on singled out. He was. My husband when he was in college. He dabbled in acting and modeling and his publicist, but he is he is in. They're like, hey, you should go on single that. And so he went on here. It had a girlfriend who is just doing it for publicity. Yes. You guys met many many years ago offer here doodo twenty two year olds or whatever it was. All right. Thank you so much for being here. Danika mckellar the end you've just listened to the Denic mckellar episode of the podcast. So I thought I thought this would be a nice special word salad wrap. A musical words. I would wrap which is we can't not end with Tom Lehrer. Genius Tom Lehrer? One of my huge influences in comedy, Tom Lehrer, brilliant, writer, performer, mathematician, musician, his piano, playing is unbelievable. And the man does not waste one word one breath in any of his comedy any of the songs and pretty much just quit performing after the sixties. Quit performing live. And he did a lot of the songs may electric company like the song, and he did did some of the grammer songs, but this song new math came from an American version of a British show called that was the week that was and this was in nineteen sixty four nineteen sixty five I'm fairly certain David Frost hosted both editions of the show. But it was just like a weekly political satire news kind of a comedy show. And Tom wrote a ton of stuff for he was kind of the resident. Musical guy on the show and this song. New math came out of that. I haven't on the album the remains of Tom layer, which is a multi disc collection of his work, which a highly recommend. And if you're just discovering Tom Lehrer right now. Good for you. I envy the journey as you go down the Tom Lehrer rabbit hole because it is wonderful. So here we go. Tom Lehrer word salad wrap. New math who have small children may have perhaps been put in the embarrassing position of being unable to do your child's arithmetic homework because of the current revolution in mathematics, teaching known as the new math. So as a public service here tonight, I thought I would offer brief lesson in the new math tonight. We're going to cover subtraction. This is the first room I've worked for a while didn't have a blackboard. So we will have to make do with more primitive visual aids. As they say in the ad is. Consider the following. Subtraction problem travel put up here. Three hundred and forty two minus one hundred and seventy three. Now, remember how we used to do that? Three from two is nine carry the one. And if you're under thirty five I went to a private school. You say seven from three is six, but if you're over thirty five and went to a public school you say eight from four six. Carry the ones we have one hundred and sixty nine but in the new approach has, you know, the important thing is to understand what you're doing rather than to get the right answer. Here's how they do it. Now, you can't take three from two to is less than three. So you look at the four in the tens place. Now, that's really four ten. So you make it three times regroup and you change attend to ten ones, and you have to the two and got twelve and you take away three that's nine as I player. Now instead of four in the tens place you've got three because you added one that is to say tend to the tube. But you can't take seven from three. So you look in the hundreds place from the three then use one to make ten ones. And you know, why four plus minus one plus ten is fourteen minus one addition is commuted right until you got thirteen tenths and you take away seven and that leaves five. Well, six actually. The idea is the important thing. Now, though back to the hundreds place you left with two when you take away one from to and that leaves everybody get one. Not bad for the first day. For math. Do you bit of good to read you math in social symbol zone? Very simple that only child can do. Now that actually is not the answer that I had in mind because the book that I got this problem out of wants you to do it in base eight. But don't panic. Base. Eight is just like base ten really if were missing two fingers. So we have a go at it. Hang on. You can't take three from two is less than three. So you look at the four and the aids place now that's really four eight. So you make it three eight three group and you change eight ones, and you had to get one to base eight which is ten based ten then you take away three seven okay now instead of four H place, you've got three 'cause he added one that is to say aid to the two, but you can't take seven from three. So you look at the sixty four's sixty four how did sixty four get into it. I hear you cry. Well, sixty four is eight square. Don't you see? I ask a silly question. You gotta silly answer from the three you then use one to make eight ones. Yeah. Those wants to the three and you get one free base. Eight on. In other words in bays ten you have eleven you take away seven and seven eleven is four now. Go back to the sixty four's you left with two when you take away one from to and that leaves. Now, let's not always see the same hands. One. That's right. Whoever got one can stay after the show and clean the erasers. New man, whom that hit won't do you? Good to read view math. It's so simple. So vary sample that only child can do. Come back tomorrow night. We're going to do fractions. I've often thought I'd like to write a mathematics textbook Sunday. Because I have a title that. I know will sell a million copies. I'm gonna call it tropic of calculus. I tend gaining complete and enjoy overrated. Oh.

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Hour 2 - Danica Patrick (11-06-19)

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Hour 2 - Danica Patrick (11-06-19)

"Thank you for listening to this. podcast one sports net production available on Apple podcasts. And podcast one. Everybody's got it to do this. I get one for my wife. Drop off the dry cleaning pick-up some milk figure out something to get out of the house. So I can relax. Here's an idea. Let's add save hundreds dollars on car insurance. The good thing you don't have to drop off or pick up anything all you have to do is go to GEICO DOT COM fifteen minutes. You could be saving fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Do you like extra money in your pocket. Do you like not having to drive somewhere to pick something up. This is a way to do it. It just may be the most rewarding thing on your to do list today. Hey that's GEICO DOT com broadcasting from the Mercedes Ma'am this is Dan. Patrick Tower two on this Wednesday. Dan and the Danettes Finance Dan. Patrick Show here in New York City football weather obese. There's no football teams in New York but there is some football whether I got the cords on today. That's a cold weather. Tell I went corduroy. Today I went hoodie today. I wanted to look Nice for Danika Patrick by the way people think that we're related. She could be my daughter now at my age and her age she could be my daughter. Were not related. But we'll share the stage here coming up in about fifteen minutes from now. Dan Patrick will join us in studio and I need to tell her about what Aaron Rodgers wrote on our super bowl poster back in Minnesota where Aaron earn Rogers signed a poster to the show to my second favourite deep. Patrick and all right. I'm in the top two there among Patrick's and I don't know if I was ever number one and then all of a sudden she kind of knocked me out of that maybe a decade ago. Maybe maybe but And I'm happy for her if she's happy happy that I'm happy so she'll join US coming up. Tony Dungee will join US coming up a little bit later on. It's Ohio state. Lsu Alabama Penn State. Clemson Georgia let the arguing continue. Oh or start. That's exactly what college football needs. They want somebody to be upset about this talking about this. Now that you have clemson now five. Oh my gosh you gotta be upset all right. I think Ohio State is probably the best team right now in college football but I have no problem if Lsu was one Alabama. I don't think deserves to be one or two right now but if you win I mean that's all it is it comes down to if you win. It doesn't matter you'll you'll move up and you shut everybody else. Up Penn State are they the fourth best team in the country on a couple of weeks. We'll find out just how good they are in Ohio state. I guess when they go toe to toe it plays out this is a made for TV event last night by ESPN. They do a great job. They roll it out and then everybody starts discussing college football because prior into this. What are we talking about? been very quiet. We we can't even really zero in on a front runner for the heisman trophy. I mean are you sold on Joe Bureau. Put up great numbers. We're GONNA find. Just how good he is coming up this weekend. LSU In Alabama Cam. Newton's done for the season Nick foles is back for the JAGS. Peter King joined us last hour. And here's Cam at age thirty. He's whatever he is whenever he he comes back he's going to be more of a pocket passer. I don't know if he's capable of doing that at an elite level because he's not going to be able to use his legs as he wants to but he's done for the season if if I'm Carolina I move on I get out maybe CAM latches on with Tampa Chicago. But he's if you're expensive in your injured that's not what I want to bring in right now and you know you have the shoulder and then you have the foot injury. If I'M CAROLINA I move on. You've got something nicer with Kyle. Ellen you got will greer there so maybe you have your future there but if you can move on from a big ticket item like Cam Newton at that age that position I would. Yes mclovin when you be excited. If you're a young fan another city that could get Cam Newton. I I know what you're saying. I feel like he brings a lot of star power to a new team. Well no when he's healthy he's he's tackler and there's there's that star power that's there I just don't know if he can be Cam Newton Newton. He can't be superman again but it wouldn't be upgraded place like Chicago and you said Tampa Bay Tennessee. Those teams I. Would I think in the first block should be really exciting waiting to get him. He's never been a great passer. And if you're going to put him in Chicago. Is he going to be an upgrade over Mitchell. Trubisky now you would say of courses. Corsey is well when trubisky was playing well last year. Is that well enough. If you're bears fan you would you would take that. Now he's regressing Sam Darnold regressing Baker Mayfield is regressing. What is happening with these young quarterbacks here and then trying to figure out okay do we go in? I didn't get another quarterback if the bears can't okay you have you trade up and you get Mitchell trubisky and it looks like you screwed it up right now. You'RE GONNA trust the same people to go in and get another quarterback. I if I'm Chicago I would get Andy Dalton in a second because Andy Dalton or teddy bridgewater gives me a chance right now and they would upgrade. I have a great your window of opportunity was Chicago is going to close. And you're going to go. What could have been? It's like. The giants was Saquon Barkley. Better get your act together because you're going to waste Saquon Barclays Great Years but the bears if you try to drag you don't have draft picks you know you got Khalil Mack. So you don't even have traffic's here you have to bring being in a free agent there. I'd bring Andy Dalton or Teddy Bridgewater. Yep You know in the past mclovin always said that second year quarterback natural dip when they figure out tape on you Cam Newton first year unbelievable second year like a C.. Plus than the zoomed backup but doesn't seem like there's patients anymore like trubisky. I don't think there's going to be patients in Chicago. It seems like Baker Acre Mayfield has earned patients and because of his first year it was pretty high end as last eight games. Yeah but what happens in these last eight games. If he doesn't put up really good numbers. It feels it's like Freddie. Kitchens is coaching for his job. Because if your success is tied to Baker Mayfield and Baker Mayfield's not getting better. Why am I keeping you? Yeah there's there's no reason to keep pretty kitchens and also Adam gays if I brought you in because you're supposed to be an offensive minded guy quarterback whisper but the quarterback is regressing regressing. Why am I keeping you? So I don't know if our trigger is a little quicker with quarterbacks or coaches now and maybe they're intertwined eight seven seven three. DP show email address DP. Dan Patrick Dot com twitter handle with DP show. The chargers owner Dean Spanos says the team is not moving to London. This is how he responded yesterday to that question. It's total okay. We're not going to London. We're not going anywhere. I playing Los Angeles. Bizarre home is planning to be for a long period. All right. I'm good good with that. I mean I think it makes sense to be that declarative because of the fans I do have. I don't want to alienate them. Because we're taking all Al- stragglers there you know it's it's like those When they do these baseball movies and they put up fake fans in the stands to make it look like they you know? The the outfield field is full. And I mean that's probably next for them they're GONNA put out cardboard cutouts there and you don't want to leave it out there where there's the possibility that you could be going to lend but now business wise you may say. Does that. Make more sense. If I'm the chargers this is all about Pr. You know I got. I got to satisfy my local local fan base here and that's why when the story came out I said man. There's so much going on that it would be really really hard. I could see a player revolt where they go. We're not going to London and you've already got already signed up to be in this new stadium in Inglewood like how do you get out of that lease do the rams once you you WanNa that lease so the story came out. Peter King joins US last hour and he said No. There's there was never any truth to that but somebody said it and then it got reported and then all of a sudden we started to speculate. We don't stop to go. Maybe we should ask if this is real like no no no. That's that's not any the fun we love to speculate. Hey Do you think this is real. Who Cares let's talk about it? We spent a whole morning on it. Yeah Paulie you know how some phrases could be read a two different ways. I saw a headline yesterday. chargers owner says this team is going nowhere. Okay yes in more ways than one as well or ways wasn't the devil and Tonge. Tony Dungee will join US next hour. Tony Dungy has been on fire on twitter. Tony Dungy the esteem. Tony Dungy Hall of Famer please. NFL fell due to favor. And don't let coach's challenge anymore pass interference calls. You're causing teams to lose timeouts making your officiating department looking out and making us fans feel stupid like we don't know the meaning of clear obvious and significant exclamation point Andrew Sicilia no tweets out the following following pass interference challenges initiated by. NFL coaches through nine weeks. Fifty three calls. How many do you think were overturned out out of those fifty three? If you said five you were right ninety percent of the calls upheld. This is because of an inept officiating crew in New Orleans that we've made a mockery of pass interference. Now here's my question. Do you admit your mistake. And then and go back to what it once was and the reason why you can't do. It is because you have to ensure that you won't screw it up with a game on the line in the postseason. Maybe they should just bring it back for the postseason not the regular season because really. That's what this is. How they just use it for Saints Games? That's it saints whenever the Saints and Rams get together then we can challenge pass interference because it silly like that. I'm watching you. You know the game with the giants and cowboys and I go that that has to be overturned that that's past interference it and then it's not okay I I I wouldn't challenge a pass. Interference call anymore. I'm a coach because it's clear the. NFL does not want to embarrass their officials anymore anymore than these officials are embarrassing themselves. So you've done them a disservice here Yoko. I was watching a game this weekend and I don't know who the play by play man was but he had a rules official either on the liner in the booth he goes. What do you think that interference? Because it wasn't really interference use the word really like yes or no. He's like well. It wasn't really interference. Like extreme interfere. Interfere it either isn't you can't be sort of pregnant. Yeah yes he but the whole game is sort of pregnant but there's almost most everything in the game that you're sort of like well there's contact but his interference. The whole game is is gray area. was that holding or wasn't it is it catcher. I don't know the ball move. I don't really know okay but you might have gray area and other parts of the game but when it comes to pass interference and and you can challenge. I'm not challenging holding. I'm not challenging any that. I'm challenging pass interference and ninety percent of the time. The people who who I'm paying to look at this in replay to then tell me buzz down to me ninety percent of the time they're wrong. It's horrible. It's embarrassing Canton. You don't want to embarrass the officials but then even worse you're embarrassing the league because we're all watching at home and we're seeing the replay that they're taking several minutes to figure out and we can blatantly see someone got pushed in the back before the ball touched receiver and the saying of just leave. It alone is not passing parents. You would think if Tony Dungy is is going to come out and say this is a hall of fame coach that that would resonate with the Home Office right. I mean Tony doesn't get too angry. Animated excited about too many things but but this has been something that he has been railing on and I said at the time and I still believe. It was an overreaction by the League you made a mistake took you forever to apologize Johnson. Admit you made the mistake. How about you have the anonymous eye in the sky at every stadium? We don't know who it is but there is a person there who is just going and get help you with extreme mistakes. He's the extreme mistakes official and then he just says there's no challenge. There's no challenge involved in this. It's just somebody who. Who is there a big brother who's able to look over your shoulder to say that's not the right answer to the test you guys hey regroup guys regroup and then all that is is? You're just helping them if we have the technology. Why aren't we using it correctly into? That's why I'd say and I've said this for a while get rid of you an instant. Replay get rid of it if you're not gonNA use it and use it smartly wisely to make your game better than don't don't use it. Oh we don't want to embarrassed the officials you're embarrassing officials in your embarrassing yourself. So just get rid of you. Don't want to get rid of. I'm fine with mclovin poll question you got today so I still have the WHO would you invest in Zion. trae or Luca Danni and it's a runaway. Luca Danni I mean maybe not fair design. It hurt we could go back to college football if we want to get some tweets a lot of LSU fans are twitter yelling at Ohio state being being number one over. That would harder schedule. Is that fair. But it goes back to what I said to start the show if you WANNA treat it as a business and it is a business then just get the elite teams. Put them together. You can have relegation so you can play your way back in. But how the top fifty or sixty teams and out of that you you have sixteen teams that will make the playoffs just like the NFC AFC just like Nhl the NBA have sixteen in schools. Make the playoffs and then they face one another but you have the TV entities. Create the schedule. So you're not playing paying wofford or ut Chattanooga it's big business it's each weekend marquee matchups treat it like it's the NFL. Yes mclovin then you gotta start paying these guys real money if you're GONNA make it have pro sport than Baker Person. But I'm fine if we organize it that way and you're part of those fifty schools schools. Then you get this yes he lies it more pro if you reorganize it versus like they're in conferences now. They're grouped together now. It's just damaging the way they're aligned. Yeah but you have teams. That shouldn't be in these conferences. Yeah Yeah like vanderbilt. Shouldn't yeah but it's like if you get rid of the teams that shouldn't be there. It's not like all of a sudden. They'RE IT professionals. Okay that's the exact same games the exact same thing. There's just less bad team. Yeah but if I take away the bad teams now. If you're a good team then you're paid for being a good team so you're primetime it's like paying an actor you know I'm GonNa pay you because you're one of the stars if it's vanderbilt or it's You know throw out some of these other. Oh programs that they're not worthy of this then you don't get paid you know rutgers you don't get paid you're not invited Maryland. You're not invited. Now see but those schools it seems like it's more okay than your payment would be a scholarship. You're not like that kind of school like say rutgers. It makes sense to me that right. You're being rewarded are not rewarded but your your payment is a fruitless free college tuition in order to play football but there's other teams that these kids are clearly professional football. Yes yes they should be paid money. Yeah but that's that I'm in. I'm including the sixty debt programs that will be Alabama and Penn state and Clemson in Lsu in Georgia all of those schools. And then you can get into that top fifty. There's relegation their promotion and relegation in their eight. I don't know it'd be far more interesting with college football because it's it's not it now we're down to the final four now if you want to have sixteen now now we know exactly what it takes to get into the sixteenth so the top sixteen schools therefore every single regular season game will matter in the seating. Are you gonNA host a game. Do you host two games. Then you get to the bowl games. I don't know maybe I'm shouting into the night here but I just I'm trying to protect college football. It took me six years to get them to change the BCS or at least yellow about it. Maybe even longer I kept going. Is this about money money. Oh it is okay. Here's a way to make more money. And then all of a sudden these sycophants who were all the BC ESCO. We're going to change for the Fourteen playoff in new team. TV deal and everybody's GonNa make more money here. Well everybody but the players you can be super duper saucy Alabama's the third right now. which is kind of unfair to Alabama tradition to be third whilst undefeated but if Alabama has like a ugly loss to LSU Saint Louis by a couple of touchdown then they dropped down if Alabama does not? I know there's a long way to go preface and know that if Alabama doesn't finish in the top four with one loss that's how we get to eight a fan base like this gets shut out. That's the extreme version of a five new somehow Alabama. His five at the end of the season prepare for or an off season of we want we want well. I think that people already want that that that nobody wanted it now. They saw it now. They want more because we don't want to get left out. And now if you have that and look if you want to expand to sixteen then fine now I sort of go and kicking and screaming with that but if you say this says the new college football model and that we're going to have you know cupcakes here and and and make it so you're playing ten regular season Games are eleven regular season games and and then you're going to get to the playoffs here but let let's not fool people here. This is big business here absolutely anything else. said I need to mention here Tony Jones next hour and Danika. Patrick will stop by anything else. That on the menu that I've forgotten about your calendar. Pictures Tomorrow All. Yeah yeah the calendar is out we We sold a thousand yesterday. We just showed you some of the pictures there the next three months each day. We're going to have a roll out with a the three more months and We just showed three and they pretty pretty incredible. That's a great calendar and you can order it online. 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The retired professional racing drive me retired. Yeah happily blast what I do. I'm like go on vacations. When's the last time you drove over a hundred miles? Inner well accidentally almost go that fast in Green Bay because there's like five lanes and no cars so I I go fast there but I did some ride alongs. I did some two seater rights at Cinema About a month or two ago and actually fun. Did you ever make somebody it crime or throw up in the corner on the right along yes I remember the first time I remember that was back in. South Carolina was at like a BMW M. School school and this is back when I drove for them which was a long long time ago and I was doing some schools and so part of it was a road course in sort of there was some slalom in it and there was a dad my son in the dad. The Dad went through A. I'll think there was one other time I drove a rich billionaire. Around for his. Birthday's yeah yeah. It was a rich Russian billionaire that was having his forty second birthday and I was asked to drive him around Laguna and and I drove around Laguna and I thought after lap one he was like yeah so much fun he was tapping out but we did another lap. And I think he threw up after that. What attract you think you could make me throw up or scared any of them? Oh really yeah road courses more so I would think but people have a a real discomfort for driving next to the wall so if I drove next to the wall somewhere. You'd probably get a little uncomfortable right. Let me give you the Las Vegas. I get a little nervous service. They're probably okay. That's just 'cause you're hung over a Dan. Patrick has launched her podcast pretty intense. That's the name of it where she speaks with some of the biggest names in food nutrition business science and entertainment. So now you're on the other side of the microphone. They're asking questions is being curious listening. Who Do you most want to interview that? You haven't oprah okay. Have you made inroads with Oprah. I mean we've had we've touched base with Oprah's crew about a couple of different things but I don't have herself so okay. But what what is it that you're curious about with Oprah Her Spiritual Journey One of the things that really got me on deeper into the spiritual journey the internal looking internally is super bowl Sunday. Have you ever seen that. No No On own and then she interviews people like Don Miguel Ruiz Gomez and Brent Brown and people that are really insightful site full spiritual healing people so yeah I just would love to know how that began for her. I'm curious how hallel racing began for you because normally you don't have. I have three daughters. I would be shocked if one at age eight goes you know I think I want to be a professional driver. What age do you say to your parents? This is what I WANNA do. Well I was ten and before I want to be a driver. I wanted it to be a veterinarian singer and a secretary wait all at the same time or in that order like those are all drains before I was ten okay. What was your fault if you didn't race course I never had to think about that I mean at sixteen. I left high school to go race in England so at that that point in time my junior year. That's usually when you're thinking about what they're gonNA do next. What College am I gonNa go to and I was going to college in England for racing so like I was pursuing suing it? When I came back I didn't have a job and at that point in time I could have thought to myself Geez this? GED My not serving me. So well. I did get it I did fail the first time should be known that I failed the ged the first time because of the constitution test. I passed everything else. No problem but the constitution test. You had to get thirty out of sixty right and obviously that means. I didn't get thirty out of sixty right so I had to retake that part of it But yeah that that point point I didn't have a ride for you know two years really and so I could have thought to myself at that point but I had just so much blind faith that it was going to work out. Yeah but how do you know or how does somebody know you're good while your lap time is fast. But that's it. Yes so if I know if you have a quick lap time then I know that you have the potential. That's that's the first thing I'm looking for. Yeah good lap time. Good feedback honesty. You don't crash the car you're on time. How professional who tried to talk you out of it driving? ooh No one really no one parents. My Dad loved. My Dad loves racing more than I do so so he definitely wasn't talking the out of it. My Mom and dad met on a blind date at a race. So she's clearly into it and then my sister started when I started. We did when we were kids. I mean she she was. She was there in the beginning. So how do you satisfy that competitiveness like. What do you do now to kind of? Fill the board other than mystery of Green Bay High I mean the all the all the things that I do now with whether it's the podcast and learning how to get better at that I mean every time I do a show in every sustaining in the room afterwards they go. If there's anything you see either new different just tell me. I'm coach -able I wanna no. I'm not offended So the competitiveness in me comes out with other jobs my winds insomnia Growing that and selling more wine so it's not so it's not quite as much instant gratification As you get get with a lap time or a Finnish result So yeah I do miss a little bit of that part of it because it was so easy to quantify you you qualify on the pole you qualify thirtieth. You know. Those are pretty different. Did you enjoy the experience racing. Yeah went by pretty quick. It feels like Sometimes we don't like it seems like just yesterday Dan. We were doing center commercial. where I parked in your parking spot? Patrick Patrick Patrick there but it was crazy even then for you because I think you were flying. You had to be done at a certain time because you were flying by helicopter to Letterman. Does that that sound right. Yeah that might be right. Actually teaser right now. So it's but it's like you you Kinda look back and and even my guys who've been around me for seventeen years they'll go juve. Remember when we did and I don't remember those things because you kind of keep moving constantly moving you're constantly trying to prove yourself or prove yourself you know to your own self or to other people and all of that and then you kind of look back and you knew you wake up and you got it. What happened or it's over? Do you ever think to yourself. I still need to prove everyday really. Oh absolutely there are. What are some markers that would tell you just me? It's just me some but like some big moments where you're like okay. Yeah you know. That's that's pretty cool. It is but I can. I have a problem of looking back. Even when I hosted the Olympics could have done better. That would have been a marker in time you could have gone. That was pretty cool. Accomplished some great things handing out the super bowl trophy not to your boyfriend But handing out the Super Bowl trophy and this here yeah. I'm not doing it anymore but I still look back and I know I could have been better better. I still beat myself up over. Not Asking Nick foles question about his daughter on the podium when I'm handing him the Super Bowl trophy because he had it is one year old there with her headphones on and I I was going to say. What are you going to tell her about this moment? Like I still beats reach me up so I like what you're great though is because I feel like in greatness you can still I mean as an example you know. Aaron has fantastic asked game the other night not the perfect game and I said good job and there's still that little moment of like well I think it kind of felt effortless in some way and it's like yeah well you know. I'm sure there's plenty other games where you feel like you know things were in your favor and whether the defense wasn't you so finding a way to get to you or whatever it was and it was a F- more effort list game and you have a few of those a year and do you have perfect for games every time so like Aaron greatness you greatness like you're always looking back and thinking what could I have done differently or being not dismissive dismissive but somewhat like How you think just you always think about what you could have done and how to improve? But that's how you improve but when you having having been an athlete how does that help you. Does it help you when you watch him. Play a sport like you were in dangerous sport. He plays a dangerous sport. I don't no no do you take it. Do you have a different process than somebody who was not in a professional mike. You were in watching your your boyfriend. Well I'M GONNA say Husband Watch you watch your boyfriend yeah. Is there a process. It's different for me watching it. You think it's different for me because I've well I can only tell you how I feel and that's when I watch. I'm not nervous because the nerves I felt like when I was nervous. It was because at things I had to do like there was a responsibility. Don't crush his car. Be Smart on restarts Miss Accidents Past that car if feel the car pushed to the limit try new line. There's all kinds of things I had to do so. I was nervous for like the things that I had to do. There's nothing I have to do when he's playing football so not really nervous but I tell you when he's still hold onto the Boston. Yeah after a few seconds and I can you know like I mean. Obviously he's great out of the pocket but any escapes. Many many many people trying to tackle him. I do get a little tense but watching the charge. Get along I kiss that okay. Okay okay okay okay. Okay but watching the charger guests. Yeah was under duress there. You got tackled a couple times early and that's not fun at the game now. Okay what what do you like to watch the game with at home. What do I like to watch? What are what are you like? Oh like if I'm with you. Oh are are you standing up. You buy it focused and I jump up when things get good. Like if there's a touchdown or something I just jumped look. It's like many many workout that for me but I focus. I watched the whole thing and I've always felt that way about sports whether you're watching racing or football or whatever your passion is If you don't pay attention to the EBB and flow of the of the game. It's really hard to get a feel for the game like just watching an individual play. He is not. That is not always that interesting. I mean there's always a couple of amazing plays in a game but most aren't right. It's you know five years rushing up the middle and they fall down on. You're like okay. But if you know the ABN flow of the game and you know who has momentum and who doesn't and then when you see a breakthrough play you've realized oh boy. The tides have shifted shifted right so I watched very attentively. We're talking to Dan Patrick and she has a new podcast pretty intense. How do people get your podcast? Rushed anywhere. You listen to podcasts. Because I'm on podcast one. I don't I don't know well I mean it's on Apple podcasts certify where wherever you get your podcast wanted to be professional here and make sure that I let people know find pretty intense where she speaks to the biggest names in food nutrition business. It's new science and entertainment. Does Aaron let you drive. Oh yeah and I know for sure is any good. He's actually great driver. He is he even knows how to set up a corner naturally. Wait what does that mean. Well there's a turn in Apex Exit and she'll be angled one one driver in the house. Yeah Paulie turn an apex exit and so he knows how to set it up and he knows that apex the corner and Yeah he's he's a good driver the driver though like you don't critique I mean a little a little like oh you had. It could've gone. That's usually the most common time. People don't calculate things right. Is there there holes and gaps where they could turn in or whatever is. See those like. I'm visually so attuned to the closing rates than to how much space I have I also pretty tuned into having small spaces and and finding finding away. So that's about it but he's right driver If you were going to help Nascar now and you can make one change. Would you miss g see that. Roger Penske bought indycar series I m s productions and the Indianapolis Motor speedway. You've got a lot of money. Wow I we were trying to talk about how much they're coming back. No God I just thought that was fascinating you know. Jewish families owned those for you. Know Seventy seventy plus years so it's yeah forever so it's it's just it was just a big news But you're asking about NASCAR. What would I do make take all the radios live? So you can hear all the dialogue at all times are they. Can you listen to all everybody. Every radio polling used to be able to on serious they used to have the driver pass where you could hear it but it was also censored so if there's any swearing there wasn't censored exciting. I always made the hit list after the weekend because because I swore a bit so that was normal. Though you're in the heat of the moment it'd be like wouldn't you love to hear what was going on at during any any game with the athletes talking. Wouldn't you want to know here that we wanna hear literally what's being said on the line and football game when she wanna hear what's it's being set out there on a hockey game with those guys with no teeth. I'm in fantastic so I think that's interesting but fundamentally I mean there's just so so it's just so many grey areas in Nascar to push the envelope and I mean that exists everywhere but I don't know if it was was that easy we'd do it right if there was one easy. We're missing something with NASCAR are we. Yes what do you. What don't do the what? What is it missing this? They're they're not stars. They're not stars the way they they can be better drivers more complex drivers but we're missing. We're missing Stewart. You Got Earnhardt. Not There Gordon Gordon. Not There you're not there and the you were not you were more than just a nascar driver. Okay so that would probably come down to a little bit more of sponsorship you know when a big driver you know doesn't have a sponsor they go away right that happened in Indycar to Big drivers wouldn't have sponsors. There's and then money would come in. And they would get the job and they might be from another country they might be someone unknown and that doesn't develop the personalities of a sport fort if you don't have consistent names so I mean that that that's a big part of it like Denny Hamlin has a personality and he's not afraid and then you'll have these dust ups there and then you get like Joey Lagaan like you'll get attention for that. I love those fights. Don't you love the Feis. Those are always good for him. But who did you. Who did you almost hit of like there was a there was like a side by side with denny of like? Were you more scared of Joey or more scared to Danika. Because I was like I grabbed onto his suit because he took me out twice the Daytona. But did you WANNA punch you. Did you come close. ooh I grabbed a suit though. This prophet borderline okay but But I I was Yeah it was fired up and you could take Casey Kane. Yeah he doesn't race anymore either but you could have taken yeah. He's pretty He he's just too nice. We won't talk about. He's fit but I think he's like endurance fit. Yeah he's a tiny guy you could take. I wish you the best with your podcast and you come on down. I would love to absolutely. I'd be honored and if I could help you in any way with this whole goofy medium that we have now that you're in be more than happy to help you a landscape of media so much different different. What is your favorite? What is your favorite new element of media? I don't think I haven't seen this simulcast. I love because what I tried to to do with the simulcast is create movement where you have TV cameras. But then I put a basketball gym in golf simulator. We move around. I wanted to give you behind the scenes. Not just one camera that you'll see on a simulcast. I want you to see us when we're not on radio on TV behind the scenes and that to me it was fascinating that that's what I wanted to give the audience in almost like voyeuristic. You get to watch us without us really acknowledging you so that's something that that's interesting for coming. You aren't afraid you do say Oh yeah we do it. I mean we've had but crack shown we've had a partial nudity. We've had language but that but that's real real so I'm you know who doesn't want a little nudity and the person we'll take a break here. Danika Patrick and the podcast. Outcast is pretty intense. Thanks for joining us. All right. We'll be back after this if you're like me and you WanNa play sports until you're really old. You WanNA play basketball every Saturday morning. Then let me tell you about Thera gun to hand. 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DP show again had their gun dot com slash DP show. You'll love it. Hey listeners just wanted to take a minute to thank all our great sponsors and all of you great listeners for supporting this podcast. We certainly couldn't do without either of you. And I wanted to remind you that you can support our sponsors by going to our show page at podcast. One DOT COM clicking on the support this podcast button and now you will see all our wonderful sponsors that helped make this show possible. Thank you for downloading subscribing at of course supporting and now back to the show. What the heck is going on over there Paulie so Dan Patrick's getting ready to leave the gloves? Can you give me some tips on parallel parking Brooklyn India Nascar translate to parallel park. She goes. I'm actually really great. Parallel parking of mclovin is asking for driving arriving advice in the city. DANIKA GET OUTTA here. Don't don't don't listen to mclovin. Oh my God yes yes. Yes mclovin on the Steve Levy Asif. Aaron Rodgers was a good parallel park after data instead he was a great driver. Who here is the best parallel Parker of the five of us? I I know I know it's not I know him better than Todd. discography and a city. He should have the advantage but I don't think he drove. Yeah I think that would be a disadvantage. Todd can parallel park not. Well okay. I could eventually Angelique get it to where it needs to be your fifty two very little parallel parking says in the suburbs in Connecticut. My first shot. It's rarely does it. Go smoothly yeah. She's good I. I've always enjoyed her and probably a bit around Danika for twelve fourteen years and You know when you when you. She's thirty seven I think. And then you go okay now. What is my life and she's involved in a lot of different projects? It's just how would you uh when I take when I leave this job. I don't know how I would ever fill that void of what it's like to have somebody on live radio and TV and you're sitting down. You're you're discussing something or interviewing something you can't. You can't replicate that and that would be really difficult for me. That'll probably be the one thing that'll be really hard to To fill that void of Yup. But don't you think there's a day where for all people that you would anyone who were won't bother you and that's when you know it's the data retire like right now. You can't picture retirement because you enjoy doing this radio show enjoy talking to people and you're you're curious guy that hasn't faded but won't there be a day way down the road whenever maybe there you know I. I don't want to do a week of radio shows. I don't want to do it for a month like Bob Lee probably had as good of a job in the media's has anyone could have. He took six months as sabbatical and they said Combat Mamba come back. He's like I think I'm good and Bob you inside us he was. I was surprised that I was okay. With it yeah but we do three hours of live radio and TV. He's doing an an a half hour show. Big Difference. This is this is live. There's no net. What you say can come back and haunt you the questions you ask people what their responses are I? I won't miss doing three hours of live radio and TV everyday but I'll miss the curiosity of somebody you get to just sit down and interview and that might be something I do in a long form. You know when I'm done with this but you know I'm still I love when we have people in and you're able to you ask them those questions and just the curiosity factor and I applaud Danika for doing this podcast because a lot

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NPR News: 01-20-2020 2AM ET

NPR News Now

04:39 min | 11 months ago

NPR News: 01-20-2020 2AM ET

"Live from NPR news in Washington. I'm Nora Raum. Thousands of gun rights supporters are expected to rally at the Virginia State capital Monday armed militia groups including white supremacists have also said they'll attend Craig carper from member station. VPN reports for most lawmakers. It will be a regular Taylor workday. A small number of lawmakers have said they won't attend for fear of violence though Republican delegate Glenn Davis believes the majority of protesters will peacefully rally in support of their right to bear arms. These are average people in our communities. They're coming up here to lobby for the protection of the rights to build to protect their families and their loved ones before the rally democratic delegate Danika Rome will make history when she becomes the First Trans Woman ever in Virginia to gavel in a House subcommittee saw narrowly thinking much. It's about outside capital governor. Ralph nor them has declared a state of emergency banning guns and other weapons within capitol grounds though thousands of armed protesters are expected surround the perimeter for NPR news. I'm Craig Corpor- in Richmond. The trial of president trump resumes in the Senate. Tuesday senators are to determine if the president should be removed from office because of his dealings with Ukraine and his response to the House investigation. The lead house impeachment manager is Adam. Schiff the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee he told. ABC's this week intelligence agencies may be holding back relevant documents. We're counting on the intelligence community. Not only only the speak truth to power but to To resist pressure from the administration to withhold information from Congress because the administration fears. Here's at bay incriminate. Them a spokeswoman says the intelligence community is working in good faith with Congress Democratic Hopefuls Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth. Warren have been trying to move beyond a dispute over whether he told her a woman could not beat president trump. NPR's Scott detrow reports. Sanders addressed the subject in a New Hampshire Public Radio Interviews Sunday Warren Sanders told her in two thousand eighteen. A woman couldn't beat trump. Sanders says he never said that and after the last debate both were hurt accusing the other of calling them a liar but asked by HP our weather gender is still an obstacle for candidates. Sanders said. And I think the answer is yes but I think everybody has has thrown sets of problems are up seventy years of age. That's the problem in Iowa. Warren refused to respond. I have no further comment on this. I have no further comment on this dispute it matters because so many Democrats have said that electability that is who they think can beat. Trump is their most important voting and caucusing issue Scott detro- NPR news. Damone Iowa. The New York Times is endorsing to women for the Democratic Nomination for President Warren. And Senator Amy Klobuchar saying they're the most affective advocates for the progressive end moderate size of the party. It said may the best woman win this is NPR news from Washington. Public health officials in China's. Say they've confirmed more cases of a new form of viral. Pneumonia bringing the total to about one hundred eighty. A third death has has been reported for the first time cases are being reported beyond one southern city in China officials are concerned about the spread of the disease as China gears. There's up for the Lunar New Year holidays later this week. When hundreds of millions of Chinese travel domestically and abroad South Korea has now reported its first confirmed case? Ace of the virus. An American jazz master has died at the age of ninety three is NPR's Neda ulaby reports. Jimmy Heath died Sunday at his home in Georgia Georgia. Somewhere right now Jimmy. Heath may be playing with former bandmates including John Coltrane Miles Davis Dizzy. Gillespie and Percy Heath. The heath brothers were one of the great families of John's Jimmy Heath played tenor sax as a young man who was on the fast track to just start a before a heroin bust in nineteen fifty five. He kicked the habitant prison and soon became known for superb arrangements and compositions like this one and his talents as an educator. Jimmy Heath was nicknamed Little Bird because his playing reminded fans of Charlie Parker and because he was only five foot three known for his humor to me he titled His Memoir. I walked with giants Netto. NPR News The San Francisco. Forty niners beat the Green Bay packers thirty seven to twenty Sunday. They advance to the Super Bowl. We'll face the Kansas city chiefs. Who beat the Tennessee? Titans thirty five to twenty four earlier in the day. The Super Bowl will be played on February. Second I'm Nora Raum N._P._R.. News in Washington.

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Greedy Cell phones compaines and the Global Antichrist

Leiaira.rocks

08:42 min | 5 months ago

Greedy Cell phones compaines and the Global Antichrist

"Morning this is as tomorrow chaos known as DNA League in Wolfson. Or Angelina de Morte. I this morning's podcast is about telephone companies and the Anti Christ. Gary Cody Jones in his desire to keep. His. Followers his girlfriend. In a phone, use my name and keeps me from being identified, which I would like to lobby against a phone being a divisive identity. Verizon. Wireless was paid over seventy five dollars on a prepaid account today with a auto enroll. And I wake up at midnight, and my phone is all in my money's taken off my card. And they're wanting more money. The corporate greed. In phone companies is bizarre. They think that the Anna which is the root of the Internet is reason they're still in Monday, which I could care less about it does not mean anything to me other than just being a root server. Open, Internet free access on. Do not. I am not allowed. Cody takes my wife. I off my phone my FM signal and claims Morrison and Linda and Melissa are the FM towers. Alien. They can't even communicate with selectively is fucking insane. But back to variety I spent an hour on on hold telling them about the post paid account. My phone is also somehow reg tape because cody's clone in him. Well, I spent an hour and thirty minutes on the phone in. Gist. When she picked up, we can't help you. We have to change you to another number to another representative in their department. So that. Frustrated me in hung up only to get up this morning and my phone disconnected. These fucking people or the epitome of children. All they do is spoke with phones in passwords. That's all they can do i. q is so low including cody Jones's that they spend all their time. Claiming that they have the life that I've always wanted no, they don't nobody wants to be a parish that nobody wants not mean anyway. I've got the LAV I wanted spiritually I might not have lot physically right now. But. I'm not being abused behind closed doors I'm only being abused by Cody Jones threatening May and Cody Jones breaking in and cody. Jones. Stock in May and all his little fucking nigger horrors. Claiming to be me I got a police report yesterday because of the pills they still. And my idea that they stole any head three DNA. Lay Hands on it. One. In, Monroe. All the same spelling. All the same birthday and one them actually has the balls to be living the parliament in my former subsidize Hud. Voucher. Am Not on welfare eating more but they're still in Aden apartment with the help of Bobby Thomas von. Donate anybody rent from the Bond House bashed to police the NFL shady's motherfuckers you can ever and possibly imagine. They leased me an apartment with my identity and my idea to pitcher but they got someone name Larussa Lane living there and Department one eleven. That's Nationale or ethnicity is labeled as IAN which means Negro. US. former Texas driver's licenses been expired and deleted from the database. If you want to look that up on public data, it's one, four, two, six, four, nine, seven, nine. It was expired in two thousand thirteen. The Cody Jones is such asshole about making fake ID's all the time. It's why his song fake ID's John Rich, he just thinks is the number one hit. Anybody has to use someone else's name or losers. They're not happy with the skin there, and they're not happy with their own life and they wanted bring others down. By fucking with phones all the time. BRIAN AT and T. boost mobile sprint all the same fucking company and Cody Jones clones every site. Steals y'all's money. And then they're left want where's our customers? He when he gets a credit card information on strop anywhere else he steals it and he deletes funds from accounts. He's a thief. Buchan Satan is his name. Yeah. Cody Jones is the real Satan also known as John Rich, the murder of Danika Rainn Wilson and goes around practicing believes in black. Magic. But don't believe in Christianity or the fact is someone hung on a crossing died. Burr. Creating Sin. He loves since Oh, God damn much giddy fell from grace. And yet, he is a fallen angel, but he's got all his little monkey horrors going around claiming there angels. They don't even have the image of God which is full image. From head to toe. I found letter online from my grandfather he angry Williams Talking about who the Anti Christ is and cellphones in the future which was dated back in the nineteen hundred early nineteen hundreds. and. Initials D. C.. Gary Cody. The antichrist's. The time is the apocalypse I'm living in apocalypse parishes nicknamed it. And believe me between two Tonia and assholes and no ball and a the sits there and pushed three different addresses of DNA Leeann Wilson with three same birthdays. And don't do anything about it. It's time to call the FBI is to call the time to call someone other than this place. In Louisiana, they had no law. They're all behind the Linda Lane Jumping Jack flee claims. She's a soul swap over. Yet. She's about the size of fleets she thinks she's the baddest motherfucker in the world. Sees the one had to do something with my phone is more evidently. and. I pray that she don't have one at all. And upgraded she can't even fucking jump anymore and her jumping jack flee image. I hope her legs bouncer breaks. For me having to walk to get that phone the other day among woke up paralysed for two hours because my hit. Yes I'm having health problems with my hit. My sacral joint is spreading and I can't if that's what holds must bind in this place. I get up and go each day. How much Roofer I'm a warrior. I declared extraterritorial pro a law eight hundred old role tradition when there's been no law, it's about the. That it can start. Hi Do. And they're trying to claim their that. So I'm German Russian to the core and I would love to be there instead of Ignace place this unholy place called. Bastard. I think declaring extra satour aerial that There's no law here. and. I'm Austrian. It's Australian. Land. German. Land that's my heritage. Schleswig-holstein. From. Diana is. It's a tribe. Of Angels. Read about it on Kapadia. This is Angelina Damore Tayo also known as Edgewood Morte Indiana late and Wilson. sign off had had a good night and thanks for listening to my podcast.

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National Holiday: 'Vanderpump' Pride Weekend | Bachelor Party B-Side

Bachelor Party

49:41 min | 10 months ago

National Holiday: 'Vanderpump' Pride Weekend | Bachelor Party B-Side

"Today's episode of Bachelor Party is brought to you by state farm state farm agents know that in life. Anything can happen. You might buyer dream car on impulse or come to a broken in apartment. Maybe say Yes to a proposal from your significant other started family or find yourself in a fender bender. When you least expect it whatever happens when it comes to home auto insurance state farm agents are there to help with over ninety thousand agents neighborhoods across the US. There could be one just around the corner so contact an agent today because no matter what neighborhood you're from or whatever stage of life you're in checkout state farm dot com today to find an agent in your neighborhood state farm talk to an agent today Come to the right reasons. I'm Juliet led the now David Jacoby. Hey Mr last week you know what we tried to make it at the time scheduling in workout. I was very busy very busy. I was traveling three children. It's cool and I just live my life being busy. You know I may not may not have three heads but say welcome to the right reasons. Yes I did. Oh Okay 'cause this is like Bachelor party to check. It's the B sad but we also actually we. Did we did a bonus batch. Yesterday we did batches this week. So it's good. We're here beside chick anytime exactly exactly so. We didn't miss an episode last week. It was the culmination of the Miami trip was a whole lot of nothing kinda except for the draft this a week. If you're going to miss a week vendor pump. That was the one to miss. Yeah I agree everything that was going to happen in. Miami happened in Miami so it was more just like the residual aftershock of the fights. Which wasn't that big a deal. We got a good scene. I feel like they know when they're dressed up in drag dressed up as old people as they were in this episode for those of you. That are listening. The didn't watch it weird but They stage a fight every time. Because it's fun to watch e. Yeah Yeah I agree and I do think the fall the fallout and the ongoing Fox and Kristen and the other witches of we hose. But they've definitely for the cameras because like no one. No one likes going to a sit down dinner and like having the person next to them. Not even me and I like awkwardness and I like fighting. Sometimes not even myself from the table. And let's just do this somewhere else outside one hundred and I also think that the the Tom Tom late night drunken dressed up as old people conversation was there's rooted in reality share. It's rooted in reality. I feel like Tom. Sandoval does carry. Most of the tom-tom. Wait at Tom Tom. However I believe the amount of weight out of if there's if there's a hundred points of wait to make Tom Happened. How much of that lives on the shoulders? Schwartz insatiable I mean like I can total seven percents like not that much. I think centrally marketing. You know what I mean. That's really what they are. They're like they're like marketing there because people are there because they wanna take instagram stories of them being there with them. Yes I totally there. The marketing budget has value. That has a lot of value. I'M NOT SAYING THAT IS NOT HAVE I. I drove by Tom this week in Los Angeles and I was like too bad. They're close. I would love to go in there. And if I've passed a lot of bars driving Angeles did not feel that way about any of them. Jump Facet earlier this week too and I was just like yeah. That's the spot. That's that's the Mecca of West Hollywood. Now it's cool it really is it is but I also just think Thompson of one of those people who is really noisy about how hard they're working and I don't care for those kinds of people. I'm like Tisco shed. When there's a problem let me know like the best kind of person. WanNa just take handles it and gets a diet and doesn't show you how they're sweating life lesson for everyone listening to this. That works in a real place not Tom Tom Being the annoying sandoval look how hard I'm working. This is so hard actually. Gets you farther in your career? Which is one of the most annoying training in America? It really is is very much A. Don't let them see you sweat person you remember. All the years we worked at GRANTLAND. I held the video and audio department together and try to make Lee look easy totally. You are the definition of A. Don't let them see us that. Don't let them see you. Sweat Kinda Guy. Yes your approach in a work environment in a work environment. Basketball Environment Very sweaty. Tell Your Dad that was well. I got this. Here's what we're doing today. But I completed my wife all the time about it. I with you on the ferry. It's not the way Tom Sandoval Rolls. Though suitable roles the weirdest and like Mos Vandross sang about last week's episode which they showed in the teaser or the last time on this week was the dress up. I mean the old guy dress up was so absurd like I spent a lot of money on that and then I would never apply anything to my face that I couldn't take off. Well I mean that was actually one of the more interesting storylines was I did notice in Tomonori on his room. They had like big shipping boxes. From you haul. Yeah and they had. I think they'd packing slips on the music. Oh all of this stuff the outfits and the and the the The wigs and everything was shipped there in a box by like a true Hollywood costume department at believe they're also flown out there and then they I remember. I think he name is violet. The makeup artist. Like when you come home call me. 'cause I'm staying in this hotel and I will remove this for. Yeah people care about their skin. The way that Jackson Tom Tom I'm shocked. They did not use violet at the end of the night. I have to say. I think they're aging well. Given how much they drank. Oh sure give me how much they drink but also. I think that Tom Sandoval cares more about his skin than I would say. I mean he's not if not top one percent. He is top zero zero zero point. One percent shaves his head. Yeah we've seen it in their face routines before they go to bed like my wife does. Yeah sure it's smart. I need to get into a good face routine. I don't have do not have a face routine. I do now so ever me neither I need to. I will splash cold water on it. Because that makes them feel good and then wipe it off the go to sleep. It sounds like a great night. The has not been washed for two months. That's mess. That's so gross. Jacoby God save space with but many people listening like ten of them Anyway they just came home. Kinda like Miami trip trip ended with a whimper. Whatever they're back it's fine. It's pride and then this was read so just a little bit. I was shocked when James Kennedy referenced. The terrible terrible things he said about Katie and said and that was just a year ago. In real time I was happy they played back. What happened because it was actually meaner than I recalled. It was like. Oh Yeah I remember being mean it was really mean I really felt for Katie and a lot of people hate Katie. I think out there but I don't and we I think yeah people don't like Katie. I mean she's she's not the most vibrant personality on the show like I don't know I think if you're drafting them to pick up game. Kitty wouldn't go first. But there's not that much negative about Katie. I think she is just like not that Nice. She's particularly mean to kristen and I don't know but I I like I've never had a problem with her but a lot of people don't like her. I like her but it was really mean. Dj James Kennedy is really me? It's but on the other hand it's really hard to genuinely dislikes. Who has the fucking gall to wear a white bathrobe? Oh it was such a thing about that bathrobe. It's not an LA bathroom. That's very much. East Coast Bathrobe. It's very thick very very thick and absorbent and blue and just like you could tell he wasn't comfortable because if you remember privates really hot that day. What time of the year is probably the only like late July? Yeah they'll look mid-july Los Angeles in La is dry heat. It's a very comfortable city to live in. That'd be the the weather has been well documented as being some of the best of the planet and yet and yet you can bake you. You always say. The weather still underrated here underrated. It'll change everything and that was one of those days whereas a car that feels that must feel great out there. The Palm Springs is too hot. I hell is not too hot. Absolutely hate palms wrong. Take we can have that debate on a different podcast absolutely incorrect wrong. It was a very hot day so you know he's like I have to wear my white Khania bathroom because this season that they're gonNa try to cut me out of it and they haven't done a lot of shots la shoots in my home so this is the only once I get my way on your embroidered. And if you didn't see the episode is a is a royal blue because he's a king. It is a very very thick and yellow embroidered white. Kanye so fun I think you know. I love a personal monogram. I've no problem for myself Question did James by that for himself or was it a gift from Rockefeller someone else. Raquel doesn't know how to Spokane Yankee. So she's off and it is definitely one hundred percent positively James Kennedy. I don't think anyone else has called James Kennedy White Connie besides white. I forgot that he was Kinda had to be honest. But you did never forgot forgotten. I ever studio session. It's just like so funny every studio session. He has wakon. Yeah I love it. It's so it's so good anyway James. Back because he has to. Dj at tom-tom for Pride and James Dean back was wonderful because it meant that my favorite thing. That's ever happened in the Van Pool. Cinematic universe was brought up. Which is James and law had to address the Fossey situation with Randall? Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. I'm so I'm so happy before we get into which is a perfect. The best thing that happened in two thousand nineteen one of my office friends. Because you know I'm always best friends with the people that are next to me in the office yourself included she. We talked about various roles so much or at least I do that. She is starting again from episode. One season one. Oh Wow some getting to like live it again. There's so many people and things you forget like Miami girl in like in this other girl Jackson's dating early on and she's like season two. She's like I just met James Kennedy Season Three. Maybe she just met James Kennedy. He got fired from Sir in the back of my head. I'm like that's GONNA have first time every other episode. Yes I think he's going to get fired from Sir so many times in fact last week he was fired from Sir in twenty twenty so he is back but continued because we need to talk on fifty it. Just it's so good so basically. What happened was back in April of last year at the end of two thousand. Nineteen fifty cent posted all these tax on on instagram. Between him and Rand Lalas man and He posted all them and it was not flattering full at all for for rand. Basically hold on. I have to interject. Here don't follow fifty cents on Instagram. Do you now see I do this. Is He went through a phase first of all he has an excellent excellent social media. Mastermind like he uses social media. Innately like he didn't go to college for this. He just has a real feel for what's going to work. And he went to this phase of collecting debts so he would just whatever sort of person would whether any level of famer. They're a huge rapper. Or Randall. Who you need to Google and like go to page three to figure out anything about the man you. He was just collecting his debts on Insta- and he wants turned his attention to rand. Who I believe is some sort of tertiary producer on power right. Yeah he I think. The implication thank God Machala Power and out now know rand. Works is actually like a quasi successful producer. We've worked on the Irish man. He was he in lower sitting Jason's Meryl Streep at the Sag Awards that went to the Oscars. All that and hear some of the tax. I mean they were iconic the most famous one is. I'm sorry fifty. I'm heading to the emergency room. I'm not doing well. Please don't text me anymore. I'm sorry for everything. This is too much for me. I'm so hurt and not feeling well. It just became a name and it was so fucking funny Fathi. He started re referencing himself as in conversations. That had nothing to do with rand later on like he just took that on as a new moniker like rapper. Says add monitors took on. And here's the thing he made it. I'm sorry five. T T shirt that he sold. They should they should have sold more. Here's a limited run of ten thousand like Nike puts out sneakers. And here's another thing is if fifty cent. Curtis Jackson Jokingly text to you semi series about money. Om You get to the point. Where that shakes you to your core that you go to the emergency room and you're not doing well. I don't WanNa work with that person. You know like Isaac is producing this producing this podcast at the levels. Get a little squirrelly in the middle of podcast and the Tom Schwartz making a cranberry vodka. He just runs out of the room. She was like you know what maybe this isn't for you like Rand Hollywood's GonNa get a lot weirder than this and you're going to put pressure on you a lot more than fifty cents posting about you owing you know twenty thousand dollars like maybe this is an emergency room where the stuff just throwing that out there in no disrespect self-funding and also known believed it. It's just it was an incredible incredible situation and overtime. I began to believe they were playing it up just for the attention but at the moment it was great and then it seemed like Lalla really validated that. It was embarrassing for her. And Randall. Because what happened was she had just unblock James that we saw them in the music studio and then she had to reblock him because James like joined in on the fun posted on social media like making fun of Randolph. So Lala blocked him again and that validates this whole affair to me so I appreciate knowing about it. I disagree with you about a few things number. One rental and fifty cent were not in cahoots with each other in that. That was very much a private conversation that became public. That reynolds scrambled into every had to do to pay fifty and then maybe they might have sort of like tons and tons of tongue in cheek. Like okay I agree because this was bad for Randall. And Randall was legitimately shook when Curtis fifty cent Jackson not doing well. He's heading to the hospital right right. Was He really a complete look up medical residency? I do not believe that he ever to the emergency room. And if you go to that window or whatever like so what's going on? And he was like listen. She trying to shake me down for forty grand like. I'm having a panic attack like dude. Here's this annex away. Yeah seriously that Molly Molly Turkistan. Exactly yeah I I agree with that but I just think over time that they all leaned into it and became like a bit they were into but at the athletic I started. It was real. It was real fifty cent. Was airing out Randall's dirty laundry and I have a lot to say about this topic. So buckle up. I'm ready hit me number one. I have a lot of life philosophies mottos just sort of like you know just sort of like a the Ten Commandments. David Jacoby and I think the mother is about we get along you know one of the many one of the many. You're about to say I love you and you and I cut you off L. I don't like to get close to people crack that's not true interesting things One of my commitments is. You can be mean if you're funny right like you can be mean if it's worth it for the joke. But James Kennedy's posts was terrible. Terrible wasn't funny. He's I think he's been the showed it quickly. I never really saw in real time. I think he's holding up a shoot to his ear like a phone right in asking for one of his friends for money via caption quote. Emma wrong that's correct. That's the joke. Yeah that's the whole bit. I'm a hold a shoe up to my ear and pretend it's a phone and then ask for money from stranger hard to believe. James is not funny. Who would have seen that comment? He's funny when he's me he when he's drunk though it was definitely a sober joke and so it didn't work out. Did Not play did not play and he didn't really have an excuse for it. You know he's like. I'm sorry he didn't even try to play it off in a smart way. Though he it was just a total with he didn't really was it was he didn't know what he was doing it was. I just enjoyed that. Lalla blocked him again as a result of that absolutely and then we have sober James Right. Yeah and he's got this Gig at tom-tom pride it's his set and people that are deejays. I'm not a DJ. But they're set is very important to them. You know what I mean. That's that's the that's the now that they use. But did you see my set comes down? I set my set went pretty well. My set didn't go that good. He during his set he supposed to be sober. Lisa under the conditions under with James Kennedy could go. Dj there one of which that may not have a drink. Yeah Julia it did not pan out. He didn't even really try to hide it. No but I. If you're going to get a sneaky drink on the side Max gotta ask of course Max. Mack doesn't give a shit and actually doing everyone man. He's IT WAS. Toyota's care the way he asked. He's like hey man in the middle of the set he's got this like listening to the beat rock back and forth while he talks thing he's like yeah. I need a drink like Some soda water with Lime and something a little something. We know what that is. It's called a Vodka Soda Dude in the box. Front for reason not call it a Soda Lion Vodka Soda Lime Buck is like no dude Azra Vodka Soda in London. They may call it a soda lime vodka or something like that. Maybe by the way did you know that really close up shot on the Casa Migas Cup. Of course okay everybody. Let's get paid with this placement. George Clooney's making somebody Clooney's mall is making some money off of off of non Cindy are eating said together. Raising a glass of CASA migos to James Kennedy breaking his over at like before noon on Friday so so rough and then La district calls him out on it and she was just like what you WANNA taste. My drink tastes. Yours is just not. It's not fair to have sober Lalla in this college last year. It's not fair. Yeah SOBER LA. La Is really hard to keep up with. I mean she has. She has the moral superiority pretty much all the time. Oh she's on moral high ground at all points like during that weird dinner table fight from the previous episode. Lois has got this look on her face. Like what are you doing? If you're in a morality fight just find Lila because then you'll be on the higher ground just and she was also the remember. Britney like I don't WanNa go back to the previous ability. Britney got involved some people taking shots. Brennan what are you guys doing Bachelorette party and she's Brittany Lake now? What are we met her for your right? It's like it's almost like she's wearing like a judge's gown in a courtroom we all just look to her and she has a gavel and like. You can squabble amongst yourselves. But if she hits that Gal to the table everyone has to listen like e F Hutton. We found our new go-to drink for enjoying this bachelor and bander pump sees bud. Light Seltzer five percent. Alcohol one hundred calories and comes in four flavors people are loving this black cherry. I heard it's one of the best in class and most importantly tastes good. It sure does variety pack. And try it for yourself when you say how much you love. Someone at hallmark card just feels different like taking that every day reminder and turning it into the kind of love they can hold onto you so. 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And he's like where the fuck are you what what's wrong with you and like that's in media break-up like even sober even if you're drunk that's the kind of thing you politics talk show. He Jacoby that way. You'll be shocked to hear this. I do not talk to Joe Jacobi this way whatsoever. I think I've got it what he says like. Oh yeah he he's says. Go F yourself thank yourself and it's like that's your girlfriend. Also just just some context if you didn't see the episode again weird like there's a the main stars stars of anti-trump rules are on the in the parade. Is The pride parade so you don't you don't try out the barbeques you know what I mean. They could try out the people that are on the show so the the restaurants are staffed. It's all planned in Kells on the parade. Do you parades are. You're in a car but you're going very slowly. I cars moving at a glacier you. You're not zooming through the streets of Hollywood. You know what I mean. Raquel can't control when she gets there or not but also time management not strong definitely. Not but like James like you're a bad person. How are you comfortable being this kind of junk in the world? Sometimes I get drunk and the next day. I have so much anxiety about like regretting my drunk behavior. I would never do like one sixteenth of the Shit that James Does. I'm just worried about being annoying. He's telling his girlfriend to go fuck herself. And he's like not reevaluating everything in his life. That's a serious problem. I don't think it's an alcohol related. Oh that's not true. I don't think it's purely alcohol driven thing. I think that he's got psychological issues. Childhood trauma things going on then. He used alcohol to know. I think he I think he had a few drinks. Like I don't think he was slammed. Like coked up James. I just think that like after a few and he starts get loose it unlocks it activates like some of this part of his personality where he will literally like the only person that was stand by him on the planet like literally that person he says. Go Fuck Yourself. Because he's not there to what? Listen to your. Dj set my guy and object bar like you want me to listen to you transition from like some other producer to another good. Dj's track to another good track. Put my hands up in the air. Like I don't care like that's not. It's not exactly like you're you're having surgery drive you home. Like isn't real life support. It's me listening to you. Play other people's music and then talking to the microphone about how dope you are White Konya. Come on. Yeah I I. It doesn't make any sense and he's just he's a deck. I jame sucks like he's kind of entertaining on TV but like you know it's important to remember this dudes and astle. He's got issues. Nothing's Caldo why does she get back together with him soak? That's at least like a one week time out. If you're if you're not gonNA go full break up. I I don't get it. Oh so how does she reacts? We don't even see them making up. They don't even show that yeah. She rushes over. We don't see the apology. We just see them like being okay and her and her explaining it away. It's really bad. It's a toxic relationship. And then we see James James Jack. Don't go over to Lisa's table Guy. He's an Zuid. Don't do at least got the prime table at Tom Tom by the window. It's very hot out but you can still keep your eye on the festivities outside in line and feel like you're part of the outside party and part of the inside party great table Kens there. You can't such a sport from wearing this ridiculous stuff that he wears. Gygi some ridiculous stuff. It's time out time out time out. That wasn't Gygi girl was it does puffy. Oh my God. I don't think Gypsies coming up the House. I have dog face blindness genius coming out of the House. I think okay. Puffy looks a lot. Like you know what? How do I explain this face blindness? Oh I don't know I. I'm not an authority on this It's like it's like when the chiefs had Alex Smith and they're like Patrick. Mahomes sit out this season but like it just to come in because that's what Puffy is to. Gygi like puffy looks at Gigi Looks Puffy and they both know how this is going to pan out over time. Alex Smith for sorry. Yeah I'm sure you've got a long career ahead of you in the XFL. Maybe it's just. The whole thing was ridiculous. But I'm glad you rob Lisa her role with these people as a leader. Because I want to talk about this situation. This was the weirdest part of the episode which I did not care for and breaks a lot of my roles personal code of reality. Tv Reality TV and talking about it for like I don't have reality TV code but doing this. Podcast I'm like. Oh discuss this. I'm GONNA give you the floor. I'm ready I'm ready. So Arianna says that. She's depressed and she tells Lisa that she had she. She basically say that she needs to find some reasons to get out of bed in the morning and put on makeup and brush her hair and like feel good so our seems like she's struggling with depression and that's really serious. I feel for her and I think it's something that I I hope. She is working through. Currently I don't know on her current state but it's come up a couple of times as episode this season so far and we've seen her consistently go to Lisa these problems which and to say. The problem is also just almost too dismissive. I it's I don't want to be dismissive at all. I think it's really serious condition. It's a condition and it's a struggle and I feel for her however I don't think going to Lisa is the answer and I don't think using these like setup sit downs with Lisa or picking up more shifts at Sir is the answer like I'd prefer to see Arianna. Doing something off camera said it. Preferred not see it at all where. She's getting the help that she really needs. Which is seeing it there or maybe going to group therapy or just getting resources on strategies to feel better. Maybe even includes medication. Like I don't know because I'm not. I'm not a psychologist or a psychiatrist. And neither is Lisa. And as far as I know none of the neither the producers of the show and so it's pretty uncomfortable and irresponsible to be navigating. Rem is depression. This way. And it's irresponsible I think for her. It's because I'm worried. She's not going to help the G. needs and also irresponsible to suggest that like your boss could be the the solved there. That's actually not a good solution and I find it uncomfortable to watch. It reminds me of like all the Times on MTV. When Dr drew was trying to help the team moms and it's like dude you're always TV special talking for ten minutes in public like not the answer and this is a very serious thing into depression. Effects like a huge a huge percentage of the population. And I think that to address it is one thing but to address it in this manner and to suggest that like picking up a couple shifts a week it sir is going to be like the solve and also think that you have to look at it from a producer standpoint. I think they're trying to bring a little at Gravitas and wait to the program and show that these people are just like you have real lives and that's fine but if you're producer you're saying if I'm a depressed person watching this right am i. Am I helping them by saying it? It's good to discuss it by the way that Sh- that she discusses it and tries to solve. It just seems counterintuitive to how I would want someone suffering from this condition to do so. Yeah and I just think like reality. Tv's not is not really a good forum for working through depression so honestly Arianna. I really hope you're feeling better. Hope things are getting better. Hope that you're getting the treatment that you need and I hope we don't have to continue watching us on the show. This season is not appropriate. Then also think that maybe she is battling with depression. But at some point you have a conversation with the producers and the producer's like okay like we're gonNA use it as a story on the show because you can help people in. I think everyone's intentions are in the right place. Yeah but like even if she threw it Kinda has to like. There is an element to everything they say and do that is fake right. Everything every single thing I think the fights are somewhat based in reality but not one hundred percent so it somewhat fake and I feel like this is an issue that serious enough that I don't want to bring the fakeness acting part of reality into it. I agree and I do think there's a lot of value in her acknowledging that she has depression and I think there's a lot of value in acknowledging it like you can see them like you like this glitzy. Glamorous still feel really feel and still be prone to depression like that actually is definitely valuable. Money Fame yes relationship that she's checking all of the life boxes but yet she still doesn't feel like herself and I think that is an important message. It's a nice message to put out there but this show this way this environment. These two people. It doesn't it doesn't feel appropriate completely. Agree on the flip side. One thing. That happened Arianna this week. Which kind of like went under the radar but I was like. Oh that's new and that's cool. I don't think Arianna has ever said on the show before I'm bisexual and and I you know it was kind of like implied. Also doesn't really need to be discussed. Whatever it's up to Hershey obviously in the car with Santhal Driving. But she was like. I'm bisexual. This is my first pride as a B and I thought that was cool. Good Job Arianna to. I don't want to say good job. Like she accomplish something but like it's just cool that it was just a pretty minor part of the episode. She just kind of set it. We all moved on but I just wanted to acknowledge it because I thought it was like. I thought it was a nice moment. She she actually related to the wind. She did so by being like every year. I'm this thing being pride. And she's kind of in the closet. I think pride of all environment is the place where the payment were accepting of like totally. You don't have to be fully down the middle by you. Know what I mean but there's a party that you feel it and like just be you and that's you to use your term sexy flexi flush sex flexi sexy flexing sexy. She's very much flexi sexy. It's called I will say like there's so much to make fun of about these people and like so. Obviously that's what we do. I have to say this kind of made me remind me that like Oh these are only pretty like generally open minded people and was like. That's nice although next week when we have to leak Warren Jackson Pastor there at the end of this but like I do WanNa make a hard transition to something. That was really fun. Rebels time management. Oh my God. She's on the parade she's late to go see. Dj James Kennedy Set. She gets a. Wake is DJ. Wait Kennedy set and she gets there and then wait kind. He goes over to talk to Lisa. And Lisa's where's Raquel? He's like Oh she's over there and they said well. Why isn't she sir? Like she doesn't have to work at Sir and it's just he's a dig himself in his whole she's like I know who has to work at surfers. What these you barely know your own shoot scheduled for your four TV shows and then and then he lies right to Lisa's face for just a straight line right sewer face like no. She's not back there like my guy. You just set us back to twenty seconds ago unless she like S- climbed out of an air vent. You're lying okay. And then gets to sir. Yes she'd US and Peter was like. We needed you three hours ago. Not Right now in the sit down where he can barely keep a straight face that so so fake peters not the the best as being out there now he's not then she was like is it doesn't make a difference. I work right now. He just doesn't response. We're slammed in its pride in this whole the whole. Show all complain about how understaffed they are. Here's someone who literally works at the restaurant being like. Do you want me to work now. We're good it's like wait a second. Wait a second. You're telling me you don't want her in there right now. First of all in real life. The second she sews up. He's like get your uniform on. Get out here. That's how real life works. You have the conversation after the shift is over Lou like the next day. You don't go to the back to like have a sit down. Yeah it's like Peter. You shouldn't have time to be like yelling. You out of your employees. Right Allie. Just deal with it later. There is no busy day at that restaurant in limbo. That's harsh punishment is to make them scared. Yes very much so peers. That's a really good management technique. Those like you know I'm mad at you but we're not gonNA talk about it. You'RE GONNA suffer for like a day you're mad. We'll discuss it tomorrow at sucks it really does. Oh my God. We're CAL cal. I just have no interest. She's not even fun. She just likes ridiculous ridiculous Let's talk about Sheena versus Dana? The fight that carries on a pace and SHEENA crying about not being jealous so okay a couple of things. First of all the beginning of the episode Sheena and Danika and a Brat and a couple of Lisa's home Villarosa to make signs for pride. It's like they're going over to their camp counselor like bunk and they bring the markers to like work on the sides. Y What I do is I always get my car in. La Traffic and drive ninety minutes to some remote hilly location to like make a sign for party tomorrow. Remember that time that we all went to bill's house to make some signs wait. We would never do that. Let's insane it's insane but they're obviously doing it for the show and part of it is least confronting Sheena about her treatment of Dana. And I gotTA say some. Yeah I think. I Love Dana detail. Gina so Dana notably doesn't like to wear bras but she looked really great and that Pink bra-top so Dana. Maybe we can just do it. Well she's like. I don't wear bras in lettuce share. Yeah I'm only wearing a bra. Yeah but I think data's like she's direct. She's sexy she's funny. She's got a great speaking voice. Yes she's SMART. Nice is like yeah. She's great I kinda like Dana. Okay she said she had a day job. What is her date of? I thank you for bringing that up because I was a hold up. Wait a second. They didn't edit that out. I know you have to edit that out that you would do not use that bite. Do not use that bite. No I want to suspend disbelief. I want to believe Dana. Eat Sleeps and breathes her job at Sir and she wants to be a lifer like Jack's like that is what I want to believe the idea that she is like an assistant at a production studio in Santa Monica all day long and then the twice a week is no. That's not what I want to believe. I know I just. What is she doing that? Like what are what are the other things we know? She's a stand up comedian. That is definitely not during the day job. That's the evening one hundred percent. That's a once a month. You have to bring five friends. No Yeah I'm just like what? What is her job? Is it like an audrey situation where she does? That was what I was modeling that entire thing after but coach studios or whatever and like says hello to people that come in exactly the great the great job from the hills. I mean I have a lot of questions about it but that was really weird to me and I was like okay. They're really have a hard time. Threading the needle between creating the the real world of of the show and the real world of outside of the show. Yeah because if we'RE GONNA if we're going to sort of like that's not the Fourth Baltimore just like the doggy door to the fourth wall. If we're GONNA open up the doggy door the fourth wall like let me in you know what I mean. What else is going on in these people's lives like what is her day job. Do a one shoot. There live round out her personality. Does she have friends? Where did she grow up where it's going to college like college? If we're GONNA WELL WE KNOW. We know dented. But if we like if if you're going to do this producers and editors you can't just kind of slip it in there you know what I mean. It's like being like on the eighth day. And they're like yeah. I was married for a while but no not anymore. But anyways it's gone it's just like what like what I'll along these lines and other things. It's become really clear. Is that Brat who sheena hooked up with allegedly works at Sir Tom? Tom Account Remember. It's usually says trainer. And she was like put him on the show because every time they grow every time I talk about Brat at Lisa's trainer and then he he's just her trainer. I guess he's attractive. I wanted to put on the show for that reason. I don't know but he's not. He's not a real hospitality services guy. I think what's happening is Brett. And Max is previous. Tweets have had them revisit. The edits and I believe that Max could not remove right. But right yeah. I feel like they've just like let's just take as much brent out of this as possible. I haven't seen Brett's previous tweets. I don't feel like fully comfortable speaking to a microphone Dot Com but I've just heard that they are equal if if not worse than Max's previous tweets and like just google it because I don't WanNa get into it but like I think that there is a part of the production had to like you know go to Audrey Studio in the reopen all the finished the finished episodes and sort of reimagined them with his little. Max Bread is possible right. That's a good point and they definitely like downward importance to the restaurants. Yes because I think I didn't think about that. That's a good point. 'cause like clearly clearly just leads trainer and I think that those are the things you can't edit him out of you know what I mean like we to Lisa during the parade like Kelly. Shoot around that totally. There is with stackable. Extra Seating Sofa beds extend tables and multipurpose poofs Argo selection. Stylish furniture has exactly what you'd be. 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Discount will be automatically applied at checkout. That's our little dot com slash bachelor to get fifty dollars off your first purchase of one hundred dollars or more also some more New People Danika. Let's talk about her. Loved loved her pride outfit. It was like me too. Skimpy Pink Bikini underneath a hot green fish nationality said there was a thong. Look if she was in the locker room of a strip club. The girls would be like okay. I'll go for it but again like as she told us she just graduated college twenty minutes ago so I want to have that for a second which leads the her. She's clearly young 'cause she literally said in an interview because twenty minutes go yet. They're making me the manager of the restaurant. Which tells you a lot a lot which tells you not just about the restaurant but of the show like I feel like there is an entire infrastructure that actually runs these restaurants that do not appear on the television show but occasionally we see the partners. That actually do a lot of the work. But there's like a whole like this. The Peters not really running the show. There's a whole staff. There's a whole managerial staff lick when they have their off site senior management meeting. There's twelve people. There in two of them are on the show but to that point. Lisa was like listen. Peter is going to be on the on the float. You'RE GONNA have to run the show during pride and she says I literally Graduated College. Twenty minutes ago and they're putting me in control of VP's restaurant in the second biggest city during the busiest day which is insane. But then I was thinking to myself you could tell just graduate. 'cause my musical 'cause that's a hard outfit to pull off. Yes really. I mean. That's a hard outfit to pull off. And she did you do it while you can. We Danika yes. I support you the window. A small on that one. You gotta go. I considered positive angles. Judge me judge me not for what I think about doing but for what I do. I'm glad to hear it. I'm glad to hear it a lot on her instagram. There's a lot of her with the other new old Brett. Which is her boyfriend who Yeah that that's real. At least I suspect that's how she ended up on the show. Her boyfriend probably already worked there and so they are like more more. You probably know more than the instagram. But the first thing she said when she was like I graduated twenty minutes ago. Mkx What College you. I'M GONNA write down my answer. No one's looking at me but I'm just GonNa just say you trust me. I don't know but I have a feeling we're going to have the same guests without saying we'RE NOT GONNA. We're not gonNA have the same guest. We're not at all okay ready. Let's say it on three one two three airs. I want Western vibes like big. Ten goes to football games and stuff like she's got no accidents Acre all to me. She's like she's got no accent. I know but that's a perfect Arizona. It's hard to maintain that body in the mid West too yeah absolutely Arizona state like what about San Diego State as tech. You know what I mean. I could see some like definitely like warm region. Yes she's A. She's a warm weather girls where she learned how to wear all those outfits you know I do. I do have to say this though is I. Do Find Danika Dana and Charlie kind of attractive and a lot of that is is because they're new. You know what I mean. I Dane Israel attractive. I think she hurt her and Arianna or like in a different class of normal looking very pretty people on the show again. This happens all the time to me is like there's like two levels of attraction. There's like I look at you for the first time like literally a picture in a magazine. Feel like Arianna definitely. Check that box with Dan. It's more like once. I understand your personality a little bit better. You get more attractive to me. You see what I'm saying. Yes happens for females. Do this can't be gender-specific so it's like so. I think that like knowing what I know about Arianna. She's been in my life for nine years. So it's like it's like I'm over her attractiveness but data's new so exchange student. That comes cheat yes basically because you see someone new and you're like. Oh interesting. Okay I'm in I'm interested in you. Know I kind of like the New People I also. I find that like the forcing of some of this stuff to be getting annoying so I would rather just I would just rather they find a new group of crazy people and keep she who's also crazy and that's why like she not Danika in Dana are the are the more interesting part of the show or more entertaining I think they were relying on maximum breadth for a lot more. They just didn't go through their old twitter. Yeah have you ever gone through your old twitter layers i? I don't think I've never done it. I don't think there's anything out there like I remember. I started the two thousand seven. So I'm like twenty nine like I'm I'm kind of past the dune super stuff. You're twenty nine two thousand seven Yeah since I met you like you were like I don't know thirty three. I guess I feel like that's when your life started like I. I know a lot about your life. It's hard for me to think about like what you were out doing out in the world before we you know zero for us. Jesus exactly this two. There's two distinct areas of time before Julia and after Juliet. Yeah there was the guy who talked to my favorite podcast Arrow about Jersey shore and basketball lives. And then there was my buddy Jacoby. You know. I think I've built my entire career. The entire Jacoby Empire is been built on like one good appearance about Jersey Shore. Honestly you guys were really early to it but so a guy I had already seen it and I was like yes. They're talking about it and it like it was in. It was in December two thousand nine. Let's START I vividly remember it. I didn't know here's later with. I'm doing the same thing. That's the everyday man pump dream. Espn two or to Jalen and Jacoby. He got listen to the podcast subscribe. Exactly that's how you that's how you promote podcast. And other podcast. Talk about them subscriber. You have to listen to subscribe to get the numbers data. Just click on it and subscribe doesn't take any date in your phone. No downside so does searched jalen Jacoby push subscribe and then screen shot and tweet to me and all respondents it. Thanks man a couple of final notes before we got here. I just want to say I'm still. I know it to be true but I'm still going away. When confronted with the fact of how much thompson edible loves to dress up. I don't think I I'm a personally passions. I don't love anything as much as he loves to dress up. He's so good at it. Though you know. What the ORCA RESPECT. I have for Tom Sandoval. It's going up. He's trending up when he's like. I'm laser focused detail oriented laugh at that but someone had to get those suits fitted. Someone had to imagine of the chest plates with the B the Rainbow Beads someone in the world. Put the the graphic on the back end so tells me that that was him. Yeah I great staff. It's he's a he's really good addressing. Those suits were fire. I did have one concern though. Okay white dirty no no not at all sandoval. Put the helmet down dude. Who you mouse. Garret the helmet down. You don't leave it with the motorcycle. Your you need two hands in order to effectively poor to stand on the bar to get up to the bar you need to enhance deport liquor bottles into you. Know girls from from Arizona's mouth while they're sitting there like you need two hands you carrying. The helmet around was not helping you look whatsoever. I think when you're pouring out one of those bottles it's like a mixed thing it's not as hardcore that seems no not at all. Oh yeah totally ribbon. Shots of grey goose. It's it's sorta line vodka otherwise known as the White Con- you definitely have when I open up our name. I'm going to name a drink. The white kind of Kosova the white card. Yeah remember who tried to at least drink? I know you're excited and it's like it's like a high energy environment. Let's Lisa Vanderbilt for the camera and doing that. Yeah I totally agree that next time on next time on. Yeah what happened next time on? Oh it's the pastor the pastor yes I'm more interested in the behind the scenes at the wedding that anything else that we're going to the season so I I can't wait but you don't know anything about the winning right like you just completely stay blind. You have no idea of any. No I think I actually went to it and I'm confused. What's real what's not as it relates to instagram. Not share anything. Did you know about pastor gate already? Read something about it. I read something about it. Came across my desk desk my feeble and pooping and I do. I do think that this was brought up in Wisconsin version. I totally get it. But like I don't know man Great question they ended up Atlanta Bass Marrying them so that's how about it. He doesn't pass doesn't get the call up he gets. He does yes because he was going to be. My question is like how much of acceptance is accepting people's acceptance like as part of acceptance accepting intolerance essentially. That's an interesting question. And I'm like no no definitely not. Let's best is GonNa get you more clicks so might as well with that. It's not what it's now at least a stance for at all but I'm excited to see it play out. I don't think the Brittany's family loved that call. You know what I mean like guy that you've been going to church every Sunday since you were born. Yeah we're replacing him from an insect. Actually you know in insane. Come on we're chasing with someone from doing older than you. I know I know it's fine. I'll sleep boy bands or my passion passions. It really before we go I wrote. It really bothered me. They didn't remove the makeup. It's just really bothered me. It's just like sleeping and being in the hot and humid in Miami like waking up with that kicked on your face like absolute disgusting. Just take it off before bed. Jakob's you're GonNa Watch survivor this season. Have you heard? Oh Ooh I think you should consider it. It's war it's war of the Winter War I saw Austin Robertson. There and bus rob gained a couple. He did but you. He was dominant last night. It was it was awesome. I owed recommended episode one. Yes it was to our joey in order for me to watch. Joel Yes to watch okay. And like my. I was obsessed with your quantity dozen six. My brother and I and our friend. Kurt were Jewish. Other Kurt obsessed ran out so happy to see him back and it was good. I recommend that get back into it. Okay a text forthcoming. Thank you all for listening. And of course thank you today sponsors. 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Bachelorette Twist, Rob Kardashian Dinner Date & Highest Paid Star Per Word - Nightly Pop 08/04/2020

Nightly Pop

21:37 min | 4 months ago

Bachelorette Twist, Rob Kardashian Dinner Date & Highest Paid Star Per Word - Nightly Pop 08/04/2020

"Hey. Guys Justin Sylvester from news here looking for a new way to stream will meet peacock the free streaming service from NBC universal with tons of movies and shows plus a daily dose of news sports and pop culture. There's something for everybody and best of all, you can watch for free or upgrade for more who doesn't like that. So go to Picot TV DOT COM and start streaming now. Personally, I, can't wait to get into that law and order Svu vote you know I'm Athene for. Welcome to nightly POB Morgan and are both op tonight. But VIVICA A Fox's back and roxy the host of cannonball on USA is joining us as well. Hello, ladies. Leading tonight. So, honored to be surrounded by such glorious women we have. To replace Morgan, Anina is not easy in an episode, but I feel like we got pretty damn close with the greatness of Youtube. So I'm looking forward to it me too darn. Let's get into it. We've got to start with our favorite subjects on nightly pop the Bachelorette and that is. A Lot. Clearer actually met somebody in the off season and is being replaced. She is passing the torch to twenty nine year old tastes Adams from Colton season. The question is, are we buying this story or did Bachelorette do this somehow to just get those viewers because people were not so sure about clear What do you guys think I definitely think that that's a ratings grab. To be very honest with you. But it's good to see that this year they're going to have. Some chocolate in the mix you know the bachelor. Is Brother and it looks like the grocery she got so much going on to yes it's. It's a good change I. Think for the entire network I think everybody's about that Roxy. First and foremost finding. Love good for her. You know Kudos to you being able to a month. But come on C. bringing a lot of flavor. Okay. Younger. Not that that really needs anything because I know that they were saying something about like, Oh, the older crew isn't going to be as exciting as a young one I have the network. No. If you come to one of my backyard parties listen COUPLA flowing. You're going to see some excitement there. Okay. But I think that she's going to bring a lot of flavor an emit. Yeah. That's the thing with guys. It doesn't matter what age guy is. He's GonNa look like an idiot on TV trying to find love. So I think. It'll be good. No matter what. But I think we're all excited about patient. So we're a lot of the bachelor stars the previous ones. So this is this is fine moving on Tom Cruise this top yet another list in Hollywood according to a new study Tom has made seven thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, one dollars per spoken word and films over the course of his career and Jaylo is on the bottom of that list twenty person list by the way earning a measly eleven hundred, ninety, two dollars for a spoken word that sounds like a crazy difference but that is still so much money per word. Are you shocked by this or did you expect it? I'm? That first of all. Yeah. Yeah that. would be at the bottom of the list. There was also some interesting people on that list. Sigourney weaver is on that list like eighteen or nineteen, and then Kurt Russell is number two earning five, thousand, six, hundred, eighty, two dollars per word. So I don't know what this list translates to except for maybe Tom Cruise just in a movie with a lot of explosions not saying a lot which I think is how he got so high on the list. Hunter to be honest with you because you know also on this list, we saw that Cameron Diaz who hasn't made films in a while that she's on the list as well to she's earned four, thousand, six, hundred, thirty, seven dollars per word and we answer the item really remember last film that I've seen her lately. So this list is really surprising. All right. Well, latest good news looks like Rob Kardashian is back on the dating scene time to pull his clerk. He's now being linked to surround model I lean Giselle. She posted a video of Robert Dinner and she even including the hard filter. It's really later. She posted herself rocking his Arthur George socks lawyers dating and instagram model the best trajectory for rob. What do we think I don't care who it is what it is. Let Robbie Happy 'cause Rob deserves all the happiness in the world. He's got his. Body revenge body back right now for everybody looks good. She's a beautiful girl who when I saw this last night on my instagram freeze hours like yes rob. Yes. Fall in love right away. No Rob have fun right now. Best Buy. Yes I completely disagree. Really She looks hosted the addicts in life. You know we all have to learn to stop dating bodyguards and the same person over and over again. So I disagree I would've loved to see me. With someone who's not doing the instagram model thing you know it's time for him to go on. A different day in my opinion I just don't want to see rob repeating the same matter and getting the same results. He deserves better he's looking good. He looks like he's ready to try a new chapter. Don't go back to the same jake in a different body. I'm wearing until until he finds himself. Chemistry. Major. Getting. I think it's good that he's getting back to the dating pool whatever he can do right now dating advice is just you know. SOCK game she seems to like it. So it's all got. Send you some new candidates row K. we'll have some new candidates Latin. Well, speaking of Relationships Danika Patrick is focusing on herself after a breakup with Aaron Rodgers. She posted about a new workout she's been doing. Called the class and she says, it's like emotional therapy for her during the workouts can help with the heart and mind clearing release that builds a strong resilient body Roxie. What's your go to therapy when you go through a break-up? Our data alcohol what else do they? See. Let's. I'm all give them out hall get some of my best friends I'm GonNa do it for the Graham on. And I'm going to making you gonNA. Miss me a lot and then I might so. Homeboy try to get with me during the whole guy epoxy that sounds horrible to have to see on instagram. Years is also years is also a little alcohol therapy. I, like that my goodness absolutely a nice glass of Vino or ramps bottle totally works for me. You know and then I'm really good at at making sure that I do the whole block being. Like okay. I don't WanNa. Be tempted to one type drought that whole bottle of wine to then start drunk texting you in my. House. So I make sure the lifelock. And then I get around all of my girlfriends and we go spend some money and have fun, and then make sure you put a big. An owed by it so that even if you go and say like you have had some drinks and you go to text the there to remind you to don't do it don't. Know the that's Akilah in the bypasses that no, and I just go on and tell you about Ohio plant. Really Great. Sweet Texas is more. It's it's. Worse. Well we know we know how you guys would end a relationship, but let's talk about a previous relationship for one of YOU VIVICA I hate to call you out. But some people saw some some stuff online and you might have some jealousy issues. Why don't you explain to us what's going on in this? White. This floor with Hugh. Tonight hanging all over daddy likes some cheat. Slut Story Jackson, you always will be. God's. Don't be messing with men I'm Alexa know that now see that's a different thing about breaking up and then somebody stepping on your territory. You know then I have to holiday girl but I will let you guys know that. We that. That fight scene in like one big take it was choreographed so wonderfully. Jon Allen who did that seeing what? It's literally become a classic. For it because let me tell you want the if I know something about my girls ever and I want her to have my back. It comes time to take your off with a model because. We'll scratch. So I feel like I was art imitating life and a little bit of a sense. Okay, my favorite part was seeing vivica mouth all the words because she still knew them. So you guys watched that clip it assigned Polish those resumes. We're finding out with VIVICA and roxy look for an assistant plus which one of US would look more seductive slow dancing with a Clydesdale giddy up. We'll be right back. All right. Welcome back if you're hoping to see a big movie in theaters this summer well I really bad news for you. Know about the spend Kerala. But whatever anyway, we're going to look back at some of the most famous blockbusters and ask ourselves and each of these scenes what would nightly pop do? So let's start with screen which is back in the News Courtney Cox and David Arquette have signed up for part five but this iconic scene has us asking if a creepy person calls you out of nowhere at what point do you hang up? Hello. Yes. This. Trying to reach. This what number you trying to reach I don't know I think you have the wrong number. It happens hello. Sorry I I dialed the wrong number. So why did you dial with again to apologize? You're forgiven by now. Don't hang up. Talk to you for a second why don't you WanNa talk to me. Who is this? Tell you. I don't think. So look I, gotTa. Thought we were going to go out. I. Think so This is creepy as hell, Vivica Woah. To you. A. The reason why they don't be CANTU black people in the movies, right can scare. Will be going. You know what I'm saying and then that. Skill it real real like come on. And this move we go into a whole different I'm just say. Fine who doesn't have caller ID and who doesn't have block so Pretend. To do that nowadays, it's not that the aggravating faith time. After different sides. A bridesmaids taught important life lessons like do not go get food poisoning before try on a wedding dress one most painful scenes in the world to watch. But we want to know if you spent the night with someone and they did this, how would you react? He slept on. It. Against that. I'm kidding Oh. This is so awkward. I really want you to leave I. Don't know how to say something. Vivica we have to ask what would pop duo do. Best. would be really. Especially because he gave her a kiss in. Canada Betcha, it was like all of these mixed signals happening. So that would probably be the last time that he got some. Eddie Murphy one where I did one of these out of the. The Hook, the classics sneak away. We're GONNA have to bat and post that. Yeah Roxy. What about you? Very quick to be like I got a morning meeting. Early you know hair makeup is come into the robot five in the morning so you don't want them to see you. Even get a chance offense is happening because I always blame on work always. And last, we have the Julia Roberts fan favorite runaway bride, and the clip and title speaks for itself. Would you forgive someone if they did this? We are gathered here today. Please no cameras now could we hold off photos until the end of the ceremony thank you. We are gathered here. Where she going, Dalton? Hi did not see this movie. So I have no idea what's going on but. If they do at the altar absolutely not do you know how much planning that money goes into for a wedding dress the hair makeup The food organizing the seat, new Margaritas running out on me. Are you kidding me you? Forgiven for that. Roxy. I forgiven Lenny Kravitz for leaving me on hold many many years and if he were to leave alker. Forget might actually be Julia Roberts. If she did that I'd be like one or two more chances Julia and they can't. Fanatic Washington movie. How do you watch that movie hunter? That is classic movie You Watch Runaway Bride. got. Roxy not don't roll your eyes, 'cause. All right. It's time to take a quick break. We'll be right back. Welcome back now, if you love dancing with the stars, how about dancing with horses deadline reports that a British company shot a pilot dancing with the stars but your partner is a horse. Roxy is this the worst reality show ever or the absolute? Best We are running out of content and I didn't think that was something we were. All what if the horse steps on you know what if the Lord Stumbles? It gets you have you are horse try to do salsa I don't think so about what about a horse even trying to work like? It's not going to happen. That's the it's not. Work. Really car. What do you think? I don't get. It even you know got a pitch meeting to be honest with you. This is to me. We can cell that is dancing with women that look like down from the back and you know have a so like that. Already in a world. That's already a thing. That's David Time. All right. I will go ahead and invest in that show. Getting Brazzi. Systems on a Saturday you do somebody George. Nelson I can't talk but I could scan there you know. Speaking of reality shows the lost resort is only two episodes and viewers already hooked. Basically it's a moon retreat to fix up relationships but Christine and her mom robin have some serious issues that I don't even know if this resort could fix and this Clegg's mony definitely isn't helping. Someone wants attention. Mom Is this real are you actually having this moment? Or are you trying to have a moment because I had a moment earlier? I I'm speechless which is rare. Yeah. I don't know if I'd ever opened up like that. Even I was on a show meant for that. But do you think you could like let's say you were on a show like this. Do you think you'd be the person WHO's crying? Do you think the person doing the interviews being like what? The. What the? Having this temper tantrum crying on the floor and we We will be like look here chipper can't Tammy if you don't get. And learn to communicate with somebody better. I'll. I mean, how do they recover after that? Do you have that family member? Can you think of the person that might go on this trip with you and be that woman? Can you think of WHO that is? them say no names and get in trouble but. Yeah I've got a friend that would give you all those theatrics and I would be like the other girl like you're trying to win an Oscar. What are we doing my house holiday? In throwing at that. So have you lost that moved around. By The the conversation is over in Bob and we squad beat. Never heard of that verb before. Could. What did you grow up? Blue. Shoe would come flat screen. Yeah. See. If your mom had one of these you want. I'm just saying. Are Moving on to our favorite moment of the night. Absolute fool to quit what they're doing. It's time for nightly stop this. Thanks to twitter. We know she's a very demanding well-known celebrity influence who's looking for personal assistant, and in the now deleted job at which went viral, she has a long list of ridiculous requirements which include cooking cleaning waking the client each morning remaining quiet at all times all personal day-to-day tasks being on call twenty, four seven, and they also need to have the ability to compartmentalize emotion. Is this unreasonable Roxie, are you looking for similar assistance? What's going on? Pay Nobody. Anything that I know how to Paul Merson formal. Notes that that's just crazy and as it sounds like she wants somebody that doesn't everyone about and be her. So make sure that you have your priorities and check about me and only me and death me and met, Magnum. Understood. Easy, and then it got really specific to me seem like she was looking for like three different jobs looking for robot somebody who didn't have any motion and made to clean up. And then what's the pay scale because that's about to three different jobs and what was she Bain Oh base twenty, five, thirty dollars an hour girl not and it's also twenty four seven on call. So let's just say that thirty dollars one hundred hours a week that's going to be three thousand dollars a week times fifty. About one hundred, thousand dollars a year and he's going GonNa do it And be like, yes. Yes. Now for some of it, but I think that bad money but. I haven't assisted and. One be on call twenty, four, seven to me just seems like an unreasonable demand in my opinion that's also an influence or so it's not going to be a fun job. Anyway, we are out of time but remainder you guys can sat into bed with us, Mondays through Thursdays at eleven thirty PM and don't forget to set your dvr. So you can wake up with us as well. News one of Rock's toothbrushes, Vivica tomorrow Roxy Fans we can see you on cannonball, right. Right he episodes everything. You say that word. Thank you, guys.

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Danica Patrick: I am coachable. Whatever it is, tell me. Because I want to do better.

Skimm'd from The Couch

31:58 min | 1 year ago

Danica Patrick: I am coachable. Whatever it is, tell me. Because I want to do better.

"Today's skin from the couch is presented by John Hancock. We are partnering with them to help you face the future more on that later but for now let's get into the episode. You're able whatever it is like. Tell me because I want to do better her. I'm Carly's Aken. I'm Danielle Weisberg. Welcome to skim from the couch. This podcast is where we go deep on career advice from women who have lifted from the good stuff like hiring and growing a team to the rough stuff like negotiating your salary and giving or getting hard feedback. We started the skin from a couch. So what better replaced to talk it all out than where it began on a couch. Buckle up skim listeners. I love that I say that today. Danika Patrick is one of the most recognizable professional female athletes in the world. She succeeded in the male dominated. Industry of professional motor. Sports broke the record for the most top ten finishes of any female in the NASCAR. Actually she almost has too many first female to titles to count. She's been named Time's one hundred. Most influential people list appeared in fourteen Super Bowl ads and grace the cover of sports illustrated. She may have retired from racing. But it's far from slowing down. Danika is also a winemaker clothing designer author and most recently a podcast host. We are so excited to have you Danika. Welcome to the couch. Thanks I'm on a chair. Technically you're we are on the couch. You're on the chair to the chair. Dang it okay edit it is take that as a lawyer would say so they ride it for us to talk to you one of the most celebrated drivers of all time because you were talking to people that are the worst drivers of all time so it just feels like this is a big moment for us. Yeah do you guys have cars. No I had to get better at driving licences which is scary that we were given honestly. I remember when I got my license. I got my license. The day I turned sixteen. You can take classes in school drivers identifiable or or drive right as I believe it was called when I was growing up which is out of school so that you can time it right to get it on your birthday as opposed to waiting till the end of the semester stor anyway so I get my license and I think that I scared my driving instructor because I usually didn't slow down until the car in front mm-hmm backed up as in like I saw tail lights but until they are actually closing the distance between my front bumper and his rear bumper. I didn't break and I freaked him out. Okay I want to get into your background. Just Skim your resume for us. I grew up in Northern Illinois. I was actually born in Wisconsin. Born in beloit late Wisconsin grew up in south boy and I started racing. Go karts when I was ten. My Mom and dad met on a blind date at a race. Some like my mom has been going to the racetrack and my dad has been racing racing since he was a kid. I came along not far after My parents Probably I think they got married in nineteen eighty. There were twenty one. I came along about twenty two years old old and then I started racing at ten and at sixteen I moved to England lived there for three years racing. I left highschool my junior year and got my ged. My good enough diploma And at that point in time thought man I better make this racing thing work and came back to the states. Didn't have a job for a couple of years. But then got taken in by Bobby Ray Hall Hall. Who is a guy who used to race indy cars and had an Indycar team and he started a lower level team for me and that went well and then two years of that and I was racing? Indy cars ours and then I did any cars for seven years and then I RACE NASCAR. For about seven years. There was a little overlap in them but I did each of them for about that long and retired tired in two thousand eighteen super easy. So that's great. I WanNa talk about all this. I have so many questions for you before we kind of dive into how a passion and a hobby became not only your career but really a historic moment for female athletes. What is not on in your wicked pedia or website that we should know about you? I don't know what's on my wikipedia at one point in time on my wikipedia. I went to college. So that's sure as Hell L. Notch as I only have. Ged Did you ever think about going to college. Now Well when I was a kid when I was ten when I started racing I thought I would go to college for engineering so I could learn how to work on my car Because I want to be a race car driver but that was ten and then probably by eleven. I stopped thinking about that. You you had other things now. What do you consider your driving force Pun intended my dreams? I'm just kind of a dreamer so I like to do things. At their furthest extent goals that go beyond something. I think it's important to have goals that. Go beyond the obvious What's the pride of the simplest example is my winery so I make a wine? The name of the wine is SOM- NEOM which mainstream in Latin and if my goal Oh was to make money which I haven't done yet and it's been ten years I would have sold it a long time ago right because that's dumb business but my the goal is not to make money. I believe it will when I- -CCOMPLISH my other goal which is to help people come together from wine To to share and put their phones away and connect like we just don't do so well anymore To go to the valley and Experience Napa Valley and experience since how wonderful it is to just be nature and understand the farming and understand the details of everything the romance of popping the Cork like just the whole thing so so I want to share. That experience helped people. Just feel that. And that's what made me fall in love with it and why I wanted to winery. So that's really my ultimate goal. If it my goal was to make money I would have sold it right so you know. Just have a goal that goes beyond. Let's say another example be fitness if my goal was to lose weight well. What do you do once you've done that? My goal is is to challenge my mind so it keeps me going back into the gym to make up new workout. See what else I can do. See how far or I can push myself Create new challenges new goals like I love the mental challenge of it but if my goal was to be fit well I'm fit now what you're done done. It's like weight. Loss with eating. My goal is to feel good so if my goal is just to lose weight through eating and I do that. Then what you'll never not wanna feel-good I'd eat to feel good. That never ends so. It's about creating a goal that goes beyond something either obvious or more shortsighted. So as we've mentioned were partnering with John Hancock for our face. The future Our series power for that. You're welcome John. Hancock it's all about helping skimmers take the guesswork out of their biggest money. Any moves like buying your first home growing your family or thinking about retirements sounds lovely. One day it got us thinking about the kinds of money decisions and making as we were trying to grow the Skim and there are many many many decisions that we were trying to make and trying to Avoi- While we've been growing the business one question we get asked a a lot. All the time is when did you start paying yourself. When you're starting a business thinking about one do take a salary from that? Where does that money go first? We get a big financial decisions. are hard to navigate. We've been there. We're also going through it and we break them down all on our face the future page. Check it out at the skim dot com slash feature. Do you WanNa do a sound effect. The future you can also head over John Hancock to speak with a financial planner. Who can help you navigate the future? Whatever that looks like Frio? I WanNa go back what I always find interesting when we interview people who knew from a very young age they wanted to do you are ten was there an a Ha moment that you were like. Oh this is what I WANNA do is. Is there anything else that was interesting to you or was this always driving your passion in the beginning before I wanted to do that at ten. I think the first thing I wanted to be was a veterinarian because I love animals still do and then I wanted to be a singer. But don't ask me to sing and I wanted to be a secretary actually think that was the first thing because my sister and I would pretend secretary with like old calendars. Your phone was plugged in. Yeah Yeah Yeah so my sister and I would do that so I'm going to be secretary then actually might have got him completely backwards secretary singer than veterinarian and then racecar driver. Once I started I just thought well I want to be racecar driver. Kids will say singer. And you're like Oh yes you are like good luck with and then they grow garage that how did you figure out. This was something that your family is GonNa Invest Time and money in for you to be able to do this and then also that you're really good at it Um We tend to like to things that we're good at right. I don't think anybody really likes to do things that are terrible at so it's about finding that which I always say as part of the battle rate it is finding things that you're really good at. I probably wasn't going to be a basketball player. I'm five foot one So that wasn't really going to be very realistic nick for me like you said that kids go. I WanNa be this when I grow will then you have to actually start doing it right so I mean we raced where if I wanted to be the veterenarian I needed to start working at the local local shelter or right. You've actually start doing something. It's just like self care or self help like if you're trying to retrain your brain and think new thoughts and create new patterns. It's great to have an idea but if you don't actually implement something thing that takes steps in making that a reality and practicing it you're never gonNa do it. We went to the tracks so I was like. Oh here we are. We're there a lot of other kids at your age at the track and other girls series at the track. All there weren't other girls really. My sister did try it. I too But Yeah Oh yeah I mean I was in there's age category so I wasn't just wasn't all for one out there from you. Know eight to fifty. It was the eight to twelve twelve to fifteen. What did your parents here about? What made you stand out at ten? What was the skill set that you had that started to get noticed? I heard this way later. Way later. but it was that I wanted to keep going back to the track. I kept asking to go to the track. I don't remember that at at all. I think instant gratification is something rare to come by and with racing. You get that because it's time so I'd come in and I'd be like what what was the lap time you know so I love that process of making it handle better going faster. You know pushing a little further so for me. There was some instant gratification -cation rewards with it but I guess I just kept asking to go and also I am coach -able so I think that's another thing too is is that not. Everyone is comfortable and tell anyone that like I mean. Hey if when you hear me doing a podcast I should ask something else or I'm interrupting too much. Whatever for it is like tell me because I want to do better? You take the feedback. Yeah Yeah I am really curious about your family and how you grew up so you left high school during your junior year to race on the European circuit. And then you move to a on your own and this was all while you were a teenager cracked and we've known you for about nineteen minutes looking at the timer but you seem pretty grounded normal. How did that happen? I don't think that if I had been left to my own devices or had success early on when I was even a late teenager. I don't know high what it turned out. How did how did you get? Yeah well with racing. It's a little interesting because there isn't that Markan time where you aren't with your family anymore. Now yes I did move to England. I was sixteen. I was there for three years pretty much on my own but I he came home and moved back in with my family. You know there was that break like you see in college where somebody goes to college and then they move away and they go play for team they get drafted apted and start to make millions of dollars or hundreds of thousands of dollars in professional sports at the age of twenty one and that just is not how it goes does and racing so much so I think that's part of it being around your family and the norm that you grew up with you know having good values and being undisciplined. Your parents seemed like they were obviously insanely supportive of you and this journey. How did they handle saying daughter? Grow into such a success. Asa a young age I mean I know they were proud like obviously they tell me that a lot on my dad for sure loved racing more than me. I mean it was definitely his thing so I think at times he would kind of project his own feelings onto the situation which wasn't always the best. It wasn't all just like roses but I think accounted They couldn't imagine if I didn't have the opportunity especially with going to England. They're like it's hard but I couldn't imagine that she didn't have the opportunity that'd be even worse. They're they're really supportive and yeah. They weren't scared to let me try either. Sometimes I think parents can project onto their own fear of things. That's one thing being that they didn't have didn't do right. I mean you could be afraid that your child would be endanger. You could be afraid that your child would fail and you're trying to protect them from that but really most all the time. Whatever you're feeling and projecting onto someone else has so much more to do do you than it does with them do you everything about the danger much more when I was done I was part of the broadcast for the indy? Five hundred this This this year after finishing up with that race last year and I felt the weight of like Whoa. These people are crazy. They can climb a wheel and launch into the stands pretty easily. You Know I. I was able to reflect on that when I was done but during it was an awareness but but not a real long thought process. Because it didn't serve me if you had to wait how competitive you are with yourself versus with others. How do you kind of think about how that works out I'm probably more competitive with myself. I guess holding myself to a high standard. I'm more hard on myself than I am with the other scenarios just to kind of scituate. That's in terms of timeline. You spent time in Europe. You come back. You're with your family and then you start with indie kind of a few years. I was nineteen eighteen and I came home and of Nineteen beginning being twenty years old at another ride when I was twenty. Three rows racing indycars. A what Moammar wet part in this kind of trajectory did you realize not only like. Are you getting a lot of attention because you're really good at what you're doing but also because you're really breaking ground for women when I was fourteen. Yeah Yeah Way earlier I was a freshman in high school. I think and I wasn't a very many years so probably was a couple of really wasn't even there my junior year So freshman high school and I had two different shows that came to my high school and filmed me One was ABC The network they were running a Sunday special called passenger. Play making a champion and the three girls Were Myself Alf. Tara Lipinski Annakournakova and we were all fourteen and so we were featured in that and then the other one was MTV. When MTV was really cool when they played the full music video loved it? When it wasn't just shows how did you make friends like being on the track where other people you're erasing visit other athletes in? Yeah Yeah I mean a lot of friends. I'm like don't I friendly west. Of course I'm friendly. I am too. You're from the Midwest I'm from Chicago. Oh yeah yeah well. Then I grew up near Rockford. Roscoe's those right on the state line. You make friends who kind of vibe with right like sometimes your teammates you love. Sometimes you hate them. Sometimes someone else you know. It's like everything else. You find your little spot lot with people because they are like you. I was reading about you. I was sort of struck that there was a moment in your career. Where you were having trouble getting funding and your dad add helped underwrite your career and you got a lot of criticism around how you were living your life and how you're spending money and what kind kind of came out with A? You're doing nothing different than how a male driver would be spending their time. But you were the one that came under fire and I am curious when you started to realize that you're getting judged differently. My parents were paying for me while I was racing in England for a big portion of that and my managers had caught wind in that I was going out too much and I mean I was going out I mean I was. I was living alone and I was You know I was probably seventeen at that point in time time so pretty much anything goes over there. Yeah and But yes I wasn't doing anything more than anyone else. So this wasn't as far as this was public criticism schism. I wasn't well known at all but this was more of a scenario internally about whether or not my managers we're GonNa continue to hell and so my parents thought well if you're not not really serious why are we doing this. What was I therefore So I think we all have these moments in our life or like. Yeah you're probably right you know. L. Human Nature is to kind of do the minimum and everybody's minimum is different but my minimum was different now. Because I was like I can't do any of these things anymore so I had some new rules going back If I was going to be supported I mean it was a little miserable but it was part of the growing. They're called growing pains for for reason. Because it's not that fun. What's Poon the race or the competition? That's meant the most you that you've done. Well I one. In Japan that was my indycar erased. I one and there was a big relief but I would say that the most pivotal thing for me was my very first indy. Five hundred just about qualified on the pole and I bought one the race Qualified Fourth I finished fourth. I almost spun in turn one on my lap of qualifying but still qualified fourth. which is kind of amazing? Because you know you have one little lift often you could drop a bunch of spots but still qualified really well and then it was really close and You know fuel was a little bit issue so that was the one that put mean on the map to stay away so I'm from Chicago. 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Dot com slash. Skim Quip. The Good Habits Company when you think about not being just an athlete but also an icon to a lot of women who are girls else that are considering racing or just I think any young girl growing up and seeing that this is something you can do. Is that heavy to you is. Is that something that you've ever actively think about while you were racing or has that come after more after the men. That kind of leads leads into why I have my own. podcast now is because when I was finishing up the last few years I did recognize that just is being out. There was enough for some people which you know. I think the reason why had such success along the way was because that was never enough for me to just be participant so I wanted to have that ability to inspire and help people grow and help people believe in themselves after my career And I was actually allows promoting my book pretty intense last year at the very beginning of the year. And I don't a few podcasts. I went on Joe Rogan. I went on rich role I went on John. Lewis houses show and I hadn't even grasped the podcast thing for me. I mean I know it's been around for years but I just not that actually I remember going on an atom corollas way way back in the first ever podcast ever existed back in his garage. Probably remember remember that and I was like what is this pot I mean so. It's not that I didn't know the word but I just didn't listen to him Watch clips on Youtube or something like that like people that posted it on Youtube. That was much more of my source and so I was like. How long is this interview like? Well take forty five minutes or I'm like what. Oh God how many and I did on but I felt such an energy from it and a rush of just like excitement and connection and you were able to go so much deeper and my life was twenty plus years of yeah way more thirty years of five to seven minute interviews right. That's all I knew. And this whole format Matt of podcast was so much different. But I felt energized by an hour of talking to someone deeply versus the drain of of a five minute interview or a couple of five minute interviews. So that was what really gave me the idea to have my own podcast. Who are your mentors when you're coming always an interesting question Because I just didn't have them I talk about being the person for other people but then on the other hand I also say they're like I wanNA grow up and be like you'll make you should want to grow up and be better than me like you shouldn't be like me. You should want to be yourself and I should maybe be some kind of inspiration to think big and not be afraid to do what you want. But it shouldn't just WanNa be like me right because you could never be like me and also I could never be like you. I can only do me right and you could only do great so I just didn't have them. Yeah I never wanted to be like anyone else. Was it lonely being on the circuit. No no I do think that the part that maybe made it the hardest was that karate because of a big office here and lots of people and you know camaraderie goes a long way in that environment that you work in the connection action and people working hard for each other and so it didn't dawn on me until the end of my career when I realized why I don't WanNa go to the shop and hang out and why don't like like get really into that side of things of team building. I'm a girl it was like. I had the thought of if the whole team was made up of girls I probably really the friends combat. I'd probably hang out all the time. But they're not and so either I don't relate to them at all or then you run that other different scenario of it's not appropriate appropriate Going to dinner with one of the guys on the team. I've thought we've had this coming up with work a lot for us. It's been obviously well documented. Most sources of funding come from men and part of how you start develop relationships with the investors is like you need to socialize with really closely with them and we're lucky that there's always usually two of us but there have been instances we had One of our male advisors now we laugh about it but there was supposed to be a dinner where it was gonna GonNa be the two of us in him going and she had to cancel and it was just me and him we kinda afterwards. Todd we both were hoping the other was gonNA cancel because we felt uncomfortable being spotted spotted. Friday night Jenner. And we laugh about it. Now get so stupid but you had to think that way and it obviously at times can limit access to mentorship it can limit access now. It's comforting to sort of hear that you experience that yeah you to commit. That was my whole existence was with all guys and so it makes sense. That's why it was harder for me to develop the personal relationships and Camaraderie within because I either didn't relate. It wasn't appropriate so so now you've got books you've got the clothing line. You've got the wine company. What did you learn about business from the years on the circuit or do you feel like you were starting from square one in starting all of these different business ventures? There was a lot of a feeling of square one. uh-huh running businesses versus being an element of business because with racing. I wasn't calling a ton of shots like I wasn't hiring. My engineer was an hiring. My crew wasn't hiring. My who's endowed by the team. Does that okay. So the sponsor comes in and pays a chunk of money and and I give them x amount of days of my services of appearances and photo shoots and whatever else and then I go drive the car. So so there's like so much that's out of your control So there's less to do. I find that so interesting because part of what I imagine you love about racing is that you are in control and then when so much of your existence then is not in your control. Well that's what I learned a NASCAR. The car was so critical to performing. And so if they didn't believe in you And they didn't put the time and effort into developing Matt car and massaging on it as they would say and taking care of the details than the difference between good and average was big as you go into these other ventures and really kind of solidify your role as a business woman. What are you scared of? I mean I just don't want him to fail. I was the same in Racing Mon asked me what was my biggest fear. I'd say failing that's the same thing. What is one venture in your growing business empire? You haven't taken on yet that you want to Probably something in in the space of cooking. I mean. My Book has recipes that I wrote but I really love cooking. Actually somebody asked me recently. What do I do that I love to do that? The result doesn't matter you know 'cause I'm pretty result yeah oriented And I just like to be good at things so I just don't really like to do them so so but cooking and mind you. I'm good at cooking. But the result isn't so critical. Yeah a guy just enjoy the process and something that I really just just enjoy doing casually I love to entertain. I love to cook for myself. I mean I can make my plate for one at home if I'm alone. Look beautiful just because I enjoy the art of it and we with our eyes and it's part of the process and it's just something creative so whether it's for a lot of people are just myself self just a process I enjoy so that's probably one thing that hasn't been realized in a business sense Other than the recipes in the book. We're GONNA move to our favorite segment. Okay the lightning around. You should be good at this fast paced expectations first job job. I worked at the limited to worst loved limited to to to. I wasn't a very employees. Though last book your at I'm I'm in the midst of reading mindset but I finished meet your soul by at least Romeo. I reread that Not a pun intended this time but What drives you now now Doing things that energize me whereas professional mistake you've made ours at the indy five hundred and I qualified really well every year until this year and I got out of the car and I said it wasn't my fault and I heard that for for the rest of my career for quite a while. Anyway for years I'd qualified in the top ten or eleven every year and this time was really bad and it was scary as hell out there and that was pretty dumb to say. First call when you get good news. Also probably Hayley Erin. WHO's the first is calling? You got bad news. It's either Haley. My best friend business manager assistant do all. I can't even call you anything because you just do too many jobs but or my boyfriend Aaron. When was the last time you negotiated for yourself? That's what I have to do. More all the time with businesses as in coming to New York here and doing podcasts shows I have a booker. And she's been helping but sitting down with my boyfriend and he's he's like you need to reach out to people you can just send a message to create relationships. Unlike you're right like I am so used to everybody doing everything for me down to opening the door I I mean years ago I realized I walk through I all the time. I'm like I gotta let people walk through the door. I I'd they have to be like that and so I am so autopilot to just giving someone the job of doing something. So that's probably the most recent thing that I'm like. Yeah you're right right. I have time critic relationships and talk to the people. You WanNa talk to. Instead of just someone that had talent booker you know finds in their rolodex. WHO's your dream? PODCAST GUEST OPRAH same. Do you WanNa teach me on a drive if you want me to okay. Thanks Shameless Plug podcast pretty intense. PODCAST by Danika Craig. 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Tinder Matches and Trampolines with Danika Maia

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Tinder Matches and Trampolines with Danika Maia

"You're listening to Fox given the one with. Dinakar. Maya. Hello. Curious fuckers I'm read on dime Florence and together where come curious when we're not just fucking around on Youtube instagram. Every Thursday, we invite new guest onto Fox gibbons talk about that best box were spot clan, the Fox that made them. We also answer your sex questions read out your sex stories. So stay tuned, we divulge all the delicious details. Hello Welcome. Be here. Thank you so much for having me. Thanks for joining us. It's good to get to see that we were just talking about not being able to see each other and then you did the little like, Hey, symbo the don't even. The Tang Lou the little finger. Cooled Hung Lee this. Yeah. I never. Hang loose I feel like we're looking. Gu's hanging hanging abused testicles joining us all the way from Copenhagen today I am I have been in Copenhagen since the start of Covid, I had a a a random move from. US So. I mean especially Demarcus, well that that's such A. Choice choice of people to go to. Now. Actually have dual citizenship lives here my grandparents. So could you how curious buckets and about yourself? Yes. I am a cam girl and I. in only fans Creator and I also write and do a little bit of acting and producing and have a website where you can host a workshop like a paid workshop. Called Money Mama Club. Amazed. Usually, you founded that whole that whole company and it's all about women empowering the women right and like. So using a talent skills to teach the people and also to unload morbid income as well. Exactly I founded it during the start of covid and the pandemics go as a place for women. All women including sex workers to turn their skills or talents into a digital product and I have a it's free to join and I have a free workshop on there that helps you get started in like processing. How exactly do you turn what you know in your brain into a products that you can sell. Online at and yeah. So just doing a lot of promo for that. Now it's it's slow but. I think it has. Potential for. Donate. I think also like you don't share the perfect times is when Melissa obliged they've got a little bit more time to learn. They do courses online and everything's online at the moment the pandemic not really going anywhere anytime soon. How have you been finding coming and only fans during lockdown and all of us or pandemic locks in our houses times. It's been an interesting at ups and downs because while I can technically work from anywhere as a cam girl I have been quarantined with my dad. For the first. Three months. Or four months even so actually my entire incomes switched to fans only because then I could manage you know when he was out of the House Grocery shopping or whatever taking photos and making videos and my live streaming income pretty much went down to nothing and that kind of inspired the whole money Mama idea because the way that the business model for only fans works basically that. You make one piece of content, a photo or a video, and then it's like how many people can I get to look at this so that compared to live streaming was super fascinating to me. I was like, wow. Then it's just two minutes doing the new stuff and then like all the rest of the time marketing, which is what I went to college for it's what I used to. Working before I quit for a online sex work and. Like the pandemic, really flashed that Lightbulb for me. When was like I'm I'm just trading time for money. So that's what we've been working towards this growing my ranking on Only fans but now I have my own place again ranking. I am in the top four point five percent right now. Let's get into the juicy, stop. What number one? The last, fuck. My last fuck at my last walk was a tinder match who lives. Four hours away you lives in a different city and it was Like. Two and a half weeks ago two or three weeks ago when he was coming to visit and he's coming back. You. Doing back this weekend. So I'm excited. Ready for your next Fox. Our second. I'm really excited that you having stuck. What made it become a second? we really good i. mean it was a very like comfortable and safe feeling first time like we chatted before meeting. A couple of weeks, and then we immediately. Per My request I was straight up like I would like to make out now. Let's. We've had two glasses of wine. Let us commence. I think people build up to this idea of the Shang and that becomes like so sort of pressure and terrifying from the people I think people should faulk us and then do what the rest off towards if you willing to like give a piece of yourself like that away depending on your thoughts about sex. I wouldn't be giving a peace away people that would be. Yeah I guess it's that whole argument of don't fuck on the first day or like if you folks right away, it's GonNa work mean that they're not going to be as interested unlike it's kind of odd I I kind of like agree and disagree with it because I think in some circumstances and it depends who is I think it really doesn't matter if you folks straight away or whatever like it really doesn't because you're not interested in. Then, they're going to be interested in you nonstop but sometimes I think it depends on the way the past and has kind of been brought up or like the way that they interact days. And then so. Then might actually 'cause I don't know the difference. Honestly just NAR is like one of those is kind of a myth, but then is a it's it's confirmation bias. That's my opinion that we like because my thinking was that he lives for hours away. He's just visiting for a week. So I didn't care. Yeah I would like I don't care if we have sex on the first meeting because I think your fun. You know hot and I want this. So I wasn't expecting like the conversation to continue so much. And really the band turned to be good and then he'll come back and I was like what? You show. You'RE GONNA disappear that's weird. So you actually expecting him because you've talked on the first date tonight Connolly's interest more because he lives so far away not like I wasn't thinking about fucking on the first date or not because I was like he lives far away and so who cares, yeah yeah it. Could pressure unlike the acting of expecting more probably made made them. WanNa see you made you want to see him again because there was no sort of like a while we're gonNA like be boyfriend girlfriend and settle down and get married and have kids it was Oh, just like we just fucking and that's it. Yeah. All we're to hang out like three times a week and all your free time is with we. Had, of course. So many of the of the opposite experience where might. There's potential here, but the potential is totally freaking me out and so I don't WanNa, have sex and I don't WANNA and Weird and if we do have sites I'm GonNa be like. Angry that at myself if it doesn't work out Yeah. So much mental assure I think that's the thing is it can be quite talks and because people can tell right if you will. If you really stop person and it's almost like I don't WanNa have sex in case I. Ruin this situation people can pick up on and then it's not comfortable and people just don't feel comfortable and it wouldn't add to be easy and we sometimes so sabotage ourselves making it complicated because we we allow feelings to get in the way there's nothing wrong with that warning human. But it's just like an before you know it. You've already ruined something that could be the. Acceptable they've ruined even because they were too nervous or Yeah. Put too much like strain on the whole thing or I guess let just goes into like putting too much pressure onto dating an online meeting people regardless that you should never ready go into a situation like thinking it's going to go somewhere oil like putting the pressure on it it should always. Be. Just like see how it goes If you end up fucking you talk if you daren't you dire like if it moves somewhere else that moves what else like it shouldn't you should never put the pressure on the fast pace because that is when do you mess up and you've got to have that open communication from the saw I guess official is. We've all done it. We've all been hard I know. One Program to overthink a plan stuff. We just we get carried away with ourselves and we start fantasizing about this potential relationship that we might have. Just stink majority of the generally speaking men do the men just go with the flow a post the. Rule and. Some people will. fantasize an will just go the phone just trying to get inside line. Own. Just do whatever man be ready cool about it. If I saw saying someone automatically just think about what our kids look like. A wedding with be like with the proposal be like how many children will be hadn't like fuck off. We haven't even folks yet. Leave me alone. Exactly and I tell myself to fuck off like three times a day at least shot. Where even talking about, you don't even know this I. Checked bring us from. Back to. The I fuck. My first time was not good. It was at I was fifteen and it was with a like. Like the lead singer of the band that all of my friends had also hooked up way if not with as well it was like. Yeah just a really. Cliche like Super Hot Band Guy. Lead. Singer. Before I don't know I don't like anyone in a band now hold on. I want you to have. Play sports I like is place Hornets now? Yeah But we so it was at a party. Everybody was you know hanging out and I was spending the night and then we ended up just going off to a bathroom and I did it on a bathroom counter for my time. He's look it's okay Can enjoy themselves. It's mollica experience faulk in a public three people. I was lying about my age I'm sure said I was like seventeen. I was only fifteen minutes that I was like seventeen, USC. Stigma. Around people have virginity, it's supposed to be this like really horrible could and lives, and so we end up yet lying to protect ourselves and protect that like the shame that we're still a virgin, which is just so damaging. You know just be open just about young virgin like that's just the way it is. I'm cool without you should be cool with that too. I feel like people should know. So they can have sex in a different way potentially yeah and we grow up and it's like, Oh, now all of a sudden, it's a great thing that your number low. Pollution. I ha what you're. You're a so proclaimed slot you've had sex with this many people what whoa no, no pays. Bridging that so complicated is sorry. His. Stupid. But I guess like. That must have been quite awkward in a bathroom as well like with. Did it hot? Was it like? Does her thus game. Wasn't pleasurable, but it's her. Ask. Wasn't pleasureable. Kissing was good. He was a good Kisser I. Remember you know the sex itself was not good. How did you feel like? Like no enjoying your time. I stayed the night and they ended up sleeping together again on the cow. I felt a little bit better that one was actually I thought good and pleasurable. But yeah, in in hindsight I'm always kind of like I. Guess it's just become more of like a funny story about Reifer signed by Yeah have like love sex for like four years after losing my virginity I was. Not Have boyfriends though the contrast that must have been exponential like, Oh, my goodness what why not been having sex with love being in love the how Exactly. Yeah and it just changed it completely now I like. Once, in a while a casual, this fine. Yeah I mean the connect like having sex having connection is a completely different game. Oh God I mean, even a little bit of chemistry like. When I was first starting to have sex, I didn't need anything didn't need anything except. Heh. Yeah. I think I. Also just like those. Are like guess casual sex can be really fun but it can just be just like Oh. Why? Like? Why did I do that? Especially when you're doing in ready random places like bathrooms I remember once when I had I had sex in a ball from our hostile once and he bent over the twitter and I was just like this is like. Awesome visit thousand feel-good I'm literally looking into twitter that's. How I love that Shit. So noisy you like a while I can still see skid marks in the Toyota unfought. I think, maybe the toilet seat was down sway didn't like White C.. K. Are. Boss still was just like garate little hostile room and ought to it's I felt like. Radio. And then I crawled into bed with left this guy's hostile over and went back to my old one and crew into bed with a guy that was in my hostile room and I was just like. Can you cuddle me? please. Thirty Kadhamy cuddle the stent. Joe. I know I didn't like worser anything. Just trading need to cut right anything to get out here Santana. Yeah. But I guess Osteo toilet experience you. Did you just like go on and like go bought the house policy? Yeah and that was the thing to we did the walk of shame out of the bathroom gladly. The new. Nee. New Yeah and then I mean, yeah and then we partied and then when everybody fell asleep I dislike crawled on top of him. On the couch and then I. Had My second I. I feel like the second best time is just a little bit better because you're feeling like. Like Niko little bit of confidence and you've just like, okay. Now now I can have sex I've had six nine now I know how it goes I know what to do. I got on talk. I? Really. Body the second time around. I had my second time was shower setbacks as well as like what we really agree i. I did want to mention I did recently have sex, but without a connection and it was really good sex. So I think that you can possibly do it. You can't have good sex wet you just you meet someone I mean we talked within two hours of me. Each other bellied spoken word hadn't followed each other social media would try to each other and yeah, we we just ended up having really really great sex it was a key in my. Own. Said communicative on his eyes yeah. Wow away those on. Just transaction. Yeah. I definitely that you can have good sex without a connection as well. But like it's just a different, it's just a different thing is like it's a different type of sucks. Mustard when you when you're not only. Yeah they all things sometimes, you can literally just be set off by the tiniest movement and other times it takes fucking. Our is to be able to reach orgasm like I'm just as well. Give up fuck this. I'm David Rudolph and I'm Sonya pfeiffer and we are the hosts of abuse of power. We have dedicated our careers to writing wrongs by the justice system, but here's a company that is doing things right Adam and Eve Adam and eve has thousands of sex toy products to make you glad you're staying at home shop online at Adam and Eve dot com or almost any one item at fifty percent off and get ten free gifts gifts for him for her and ones you'll both enjoy plus six free movies and free shipping use code a free at checkout that's code eighty free at Adam and Eve dot com. Fuck three. The Best Faulk It was when I was twenty two. When it first started dating my most serious. Boyfriend Mike. The longest I dated someone for five years and we broke up in two thousand seventeen. So this was like one of the very first time we had. Slept together, and we were like having a movie night where we were on his bed and then I had a friend. Over, and he had a friend over and they like everybody was in the room and it was dark and we were watching a movie and we had just been fooling around the whole time but might not having sex, but just fooling around the entire movie finally, the movie ended and everybody got up to go to the bathroom or get a snack or whatever, and we just fucked so quickly. But so like explosively, we both came at the same time. You know just like minutes like as soon as everybody left the room, it was like instant both just came within minutes, which I love like the sooner. I can get a really don't like marathon bangs I'm lazy. Without. Fine. I. going. By. Time shouldn't be. Short. fucking. Was this the first time that you had slept together as well. Now, it wasn't our first time, but it was in like it was maybe you know second or third in that really likes I I you can't keep your hands off era. fucking hilarious as well. The five you in a room for the people and they probably need that you fooling around Spurs league by the movies over like Faulk of leaving of getting out. Having sex. Thanks to me. They they didn't know. They know they know that was happening. With that I mean my mind girlfriend who who was over I'm still friends with her. We've never ever ever spoken about it. Maybe I. The. Thought this was like eight years ago I. Seven or eight years ago and and I just saw her yet the other day. The day went out should wait they went out to the in the room when you sex now they were they left the room. Making out the whole movie and like I was GonNa say you can tell when people are like like. Sloping hands going everywhere in wrestling of covers even if you're under the covers people. Slur cute. What made thought fuck the best fog. So like the secret for playing like I definitely have a thing for like you know we're not supposed to be hooking up right now and. And be quiet and like that whole vibe is really sexy to me so. Already like my my fantasy. In real life kind of and then also like. The nostalgia of it being you know the person that I ended up spending most of my adult. Romantic experiences. And it's Yeah and just I mean he just had really take. Half. Was Puffing. Fit Your Lock. Yeah. Exactly. What about the size when? I've at the size now who really really really isn't I have fallen in love with all sizes expand China's so it's really not about the Dick size at all. It does it actually doesn't know because it is. It's just about the fit with you and like everyone has completely different genitals and different shapes just what for different people? I. Guess People will always all seem that question does size matter and I. It's quite hard. I guess it's probably quite hard for. People with penises to think that it doesn't because it does quite ultimately it does come up in conversation quite a lot about like we are pressured. By. A large Pena. But it is just the person using it ready. We it really is. Yeah. I think if the pain is I had the day was pig out I wouldn't I probably wouldn't have enjoyed it so much. You're going to be Venus lab the other day just. Every section I'm trying to think about it relatively aid is in from experience. It's hard because obviously I've had Thomas's penis for so long and if I think that's like the politics Pena's but it's not always sometimes it hurts sometimes it like doesn't hit the sides but then sometimes it's too big. It's also depends on like we are cycle ism what your vagina saying. Buck number four. The worst. The worst time I think it was also around the beginning. The Dawn of sex. In the dawn of sex in my life, am there was a guy from a different high school. We didn't go to the same high school, but we went to the same parties and it was like at a House party on trampolines. Praise. As sex on a trampoline is really difficult and uncomfortable and it was dark and we didn't know we were doing and. Yeah, it was so bad and people were like kind of noticing that we. Rolling around on the trampoline. Oh Fog I feel like people might think that would be a good idea because you'd get more like momentum shot. Spring. You can't. There's no way because when it goes. Down like bounces back all my God. Shit. So never have sex trumpeting guy is a lesson we hit. Quite hard surfaces as well. So it's not. About the soft comfort. The knees go into the bed and you kind of meet each other more in the middle website eaten Siphon. I'd love to focus. On your like a worm. Lena like. My friend used to have a trampoline younger, and also once you get on a trampoline you just you can't really stay where you are like it's hard to zip amply it's hard to like wool trampoline alone actually fuck on it because you just have kind of no control of your own gravity. See I guess. You'll be I don't know because it's such a flat thin surface, which is bending every time. You put like a little bit of weight and you also have like frost like I. Don't know the balance is completely off I can imagine getting like sick almost from functions. that. It, it really wasn't good. Just. momentum of it was it the past as well like was lack of communication or was it just not fun? As would I mean? Lack of communication awkward positioning. Or? Circumstances because it wasn't. It wasn't private and like walking around kind of questioning what was happening. Yeah not not a total random like a somewhat boyfriend, but still not not a love not a love for Sharon God like having sex in awkward places is just the one said now I feel sorry for fifteen year. Old Me I'm like Oh my God, why do that? I bet just so comfortable that's what I wanNA fuck modest this where I in base it is. It is just comfortability and of course, if you'll couch I really like. Cow. Is a lot to lean over. The SOFA. Is My like second favorite I also kind of like. Counter Fox. Like when you also of like your sitting on the edge of the county on this fucking you your legs like wide open and like thoughts. Quiet. It sounds hard but then you have to make sure the kitchen high is the same height as their legs. Otherwise they're up on their tippy toes or the to show. That is true. Maybe only works if you're the perfect height for. Me Talk About Shower Fox when we think that the really hot and CPA poor could in one person's like on the the other person's like crouching and it's just really hard on your legs. I. Think I've ever had a good shower, fuck. That weighs like it's kind of like a cool having excite. This is nice like, but it's never like this is the best faulk or now never like crazy pleasurable. Not Show like how often I've ever all Gaza? MD. In shower but for some reason. I don't stop trying to do it. Affect is the puppet pace. If you're both in the shower together, 'cause you're with these other naked and you end up old semantically like going to sex even though you know it's GonNa. Be. Shit. Why do I keep doing gay? Next. On things at the time and you let. The optima read have you ever fucked anywhere like Super Super Awkward you'll get a show me bring up again but the laws fought that I had. This is amazing. position our. Position So we talked three times in a row in in the in the in the session and we went to go get my alcohol and we ended up I was like you WanNa fuck outdoors like I haven't had the opportunity. So we went into some bushes and I was like it's still not covid up enough we conduct a wool. Fuck between these two trees outside. This is like not last night the night before was it's like super fresh. It was so uncomfortable on the pitch black floor, the twigs and stones everywhere how Big. Like. I was constantly thinking about will the spy knows Wolf Spider Season House by the season. So I just kept imagining I was crushingly poll fucking spiders and insects and because it's on the floor as well you don't have that like a position you can't meet each other. So his hit was riding to my high so badly We're GONNA have to stop because I'm not enjoying this. This isn't pleasurable from it's an exciting experience and I enjoyed the experiences fun I was at like China was like Nah Nah the same comfortable. As we walked out, we realized we were at the firefighters station in the Garden House, like we go and see TV. Shows. You See. Not fucking just walking out together. Shit. Though if you outside and retrieves about like you adjust. Ike. A standing fuck, which is didn't even think to do. We just went on the floor assigned. Number five. The fuck. That made me. I was thinking about this before I got on and I guess it was a so the same guy that I lost my virginity to I think maybe a year later I think I was like sixteen or something. We. We slept together again and he had gotten like a motel room because he I don't remember if he i. Didn't like his roommates or he got kicked out or he was homeless I get on you WanNa know guys. Like I don't know he got a motel whatever. Went over and. I we had sex, and I came for the first time I like I discovered the competence to actually just like take rubbing into my own hands for the first time her like, yeah I had been having sex for about a year. And we were in we're doing it Doggie and I just decided I was like this doesn't. SEX IS NOT IT SEX SAVE IT I. To do what I do at home when I. How I know how to come and then I came in I was like, oh. My God. I. Ended the crush on the guy like. Idiot like I barely need you. You know like Oh, my. Fascinated with it. Yeah. Yeah. Soon as I came out like. You're a moron like I don't. Need. I could be anyone I have the choice like. Like we have to. Sympathize with him. He probably just didn't have the right sex education like he probably just had no idea. No idea what he was doing it wasn't given. I nor like it's always, the thing isn't oversee. We all need the sex education, but we all need to like. Also just Like we all need to be like perceptive and like enjoy other people's pleasure 'cause I think when it comes down to when I think of the time, it comes down to people literally not Brady giving a shit about other people's pleasure in just being selfish. But it depends on the age I feel like really does feel at once you'll pass the agency's Zebedee then it's like you need to start doing your research not just looking at porn and thinking that that's like the sex education you're GONNA get like look good informational sites look like actual reputable sources just can google. You know you can see what's bullshit and what will actually make sense Reebok WanNa. Look at Lee. Is Not to you know, yeah, I, think also going back to the actual fuck I think it's so important to arm actually get confidence to be able to pass yourself during as well. Like stall rubbing that clip because what why wouldn't you when it's GonNa. Make the sex like ten times better and his in doggy like position. That's like. I find the perfect position to at least get my hands or a sex toy involved and like going really just pushes it like over the edge. For This week's let's question is I'm seventeen on female and I have just ended a one plus year relationship my boyfriend as I'm going away next year and I don't want a serious relationship right now ended on great times we still talk regularly. We were just we were talking about how the other day we both just wanted sex and he suggested that we should meet up on Faulk I really want to. But is it a good idea as Ernie Berkoff a couple of weeks ago I feel like I'm completely over him but I don't know if it's the same for him. However, he's the one who suggested we fought and he said that be no feelings involved. Is it west trying but risking all friendship? He's help. So tricky I mean I i. think if you're getting the vibe from him thought it might be more than a fox to him. It's probably better to play it safe. We can get so caught up with our axes and bit especially because like Ooh, especially if the sexist good I feel like you might just need to. I. Mean of course you can risk in a he needs to learn himself because maybe in his mind he does think it's going to be okay and then when you fuck, he might actually realize like he doesn't want to. But I will also need to take that responsibility in go like this actually might be an issue for them even though I'm cool with her and it might turn into something more market complicated or someone's speeding's cricket her yeah, and also she doesn't know if she's completely over him either. The state territory thing it's just. I think fucking exits is always just GonNa be complicated yeah. If you communique everything that you said to offer to him then maybe like maybe you could do it because I mean our friend Alani, she's being fucking her ex like sin? Saber. aqap night they still have great sets Thank. Goodness you're. Not Friends with any of my exes definitely not backing them. I don't do I. Don't do friends with my ex Nicole you. Some cases in some instances, you can do it, but I think it's so rare and I think it's New Dead to me. How Does this anymore. I think I think the fucking bit is dangerous. I think being friends with X is definitely durable and possibly you have great friendships but You get Sykes back involved. It does complicate things suggests have radio thing in two about it beforehand if you gonna go ahead with it. So it's time for us to off now done again. Thank you so much show. It was not good sorry about all the technical issues, this episode, obsolete nightmare of mice in your idea better about my it makes me feel better about my fuck ups. I'm so. Curious focus find you. You can follow me on Instagram at Danika with a K., Maya with an I at Danika Maya, and you should join money Mama and it's Dot Money Mama Club Dot com. On so the people that live. and. The in my only fans is that the same Danika my as my instagram only fans dot com slash Dan Maya and I have a link tree in my instagram profile that has all of the All of the links. INSTAGRAM is so hot. I love that. Awesome. Thank you. I put a lot of work it. I have some fire coming out right now so We have an amazing shy. God. AND WITH TIME In his cross? No Joy. Out It. would be just eh offline. And hopefully things on communicate communicate everything, and thank you so much for listening to this wonderful episode. Of Fox given. 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Ep. 221 - Codependency, Addiction + Conscious Uncoupling with Danika Brysha and Billy Haley

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Ep. 221 - Codependency, Addiction + Conscious Uncoupling with Danika Brysha and Billy Haley

"Make sure you have a strong enough own Dacian in your own desires to come back yourself. No matter what information comes in Hugh, and make a judgment call based on what you really what feels right to you. Because if I had followed the should in my life that all the things I thought I should do, I would never have this incredible man. He has grown me in ways that I can't even articulate. You're listening to the almost thirty podcast hosted by Christopher Williams and Lindsay Simsek almost thirty started as a conversation about the transition from our twenties toward thirties. But then we realized life is full of transitions. So be expanded our mission. We are an intuition, led wellness focused lifestyle podcast, that promises to deliver authentic conversations diverse points of view. An insights rooted in optimism, growth and intention. 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So it'll be an intimate beautiful nourishing retreat that we hope you can come to. So spots for that are available now on our website. So take a look and almost thirty podcasts dot com under be main menu. Just click on retreat to us nineteen. Yeah. I wanted to talk about this because I was listening to today. So I took a walk today in the park, and I listened to ritual which I haven't rituals, one of my oh, jeez. The rich podcast when I first started listening to podcast years and years ago, he was one of my first and I really admire his how humble he is his vocabulary the diversity of his guests today. He had on a woman named Lisa day more. So it's D A M O U R. She's a PHD and she actually studies. Teenage children's have teenage girls and teenage boys. And what I really loved is the conversation around, how to be a better parent to those teenage girls and boys, especially in the day of social media in the day of phones in the day of things that are going on in the world that, you know, we didn't experience related to bullying and all of these things. And she was talking about something that was really interesting related to girls and boys when they're growing up that biologically there is no difference between, you know, males and females in the sense that when teenage girls, go to high school, and they develop these deep relationships with other females that are very open and conversation airy, and you're sharing all these things, you know, in high school and middle school. You probably had really deep relationships where you told them everything. Whereas men in this case, don't necessarily turn to other men. They more turn to distract. So the women seek community with other women. And in this case, they may get hurt you know, it may be hard because they're experiencing drama because they've shared things because they've gotten deep but men on the other hand seek to distract. So that is why they're playing video games. You know, they may go to pornography. They may go to isolation but it just really spoke to the fact that all of these things that an idea all of these ideas that we have related to teenage boys and teenage girls are all socialized, so we could socialize men on the other hand to be more open to be more vulnerable to communicate more to lean on other men, their age more. And then on the other hand, we could communicate to women to be more independent, you know, be more free thinking all of these things, but it really struck me because the relationship of women or the win. Women in seventh and eighth grade. And even in high school, it is such a pivotal time for those deep friendships, and how you can get really hurt by them, you know, 'cause you are exposing yourself, so much in sharing so much, and I do remember, never seeing men on the other hand really having those deep friendships. You know, I definitely think that they had super deep meaningful friendships that still stand today. Most of the men that I've dated in my life, have had very long standing friendships since high school in middle school, and all this, those things, but never felt like as deep as the ones that the women were having, and it was nice to really hear that brought to light and discussed. Yeah, well, it's interesting to think about like how that time is so pivotal. And, you know, if it goes awry at one point, or another, like, how, like for me, I sought refuge in the, the way in which boys kind of didn't have those deep to good relationships because, you know, then I wouldn't get hurt you know, like it was then. Yeah. It was it was interesting. Because now I'm having to do some reprogramming around like how I show up to friendships because for me, I yes, I had I have an had some incredibly deep beautiful friendships. But I do think that time in middle school early high school was like a bit fucked up, and like kind of trained me to not go as deep or show up fully because of the hurt that I did that. And then there is hurt their and then now I feel unsafe to do that. So that's still in my body, and I'm kind of trying to, you know, re sensitize myself to all of that. But that's so interesting. Yeah, I think about lake how our schools playing a part in that, like our schools, creating an environment where, you know, instead of fucking free period, or whatever the hell or like some weird class like maybe it's like a share. Airing circle. Maybe it's like almost almost like therapy like group therapy in school. You know, I don't know if that's legal. But, like, just like creating an environment where both men and women feel like fake. I would assume it would have to be separated. So females are with females males with males but like where they can feel comfortable enough to share and hopefully that would translate at home. They would share more at home, and hopefully that would translate into the next relationship, they hod, and so on, and so forth. But yeah, I think there's a responsibility in the schools, if that's where they are for a majority of the time. Yeah. And it was interesting too, because a lot of the data speaks to the fact that this is the best behaved generation yet, so less kids are getting in trouble less. Kids are having sex less kids are doing drugs, less kids are binge drinking, which is interesting because it speaks a lot to, you know, the media's perception of things. And I remember when we were in Costa Rica. They talked about that. How this day and age is less violent. There's less war. There's less death due to sickness. So there's less of these things happening. But if you turn on the media, and you are part of the media cycle, you may not believe that new Nazi, that, so it was interesting, too, because a lot of that is attributed to technology and cell phone use, so on the one hand where technology has provided you know, a disconnection toddlers to community to your body, all of these things that, you know, we very well know or negative the impacts the social media are mostly negative on growing children are growing boys and girls. But there is a lot of it that speaks to the fact that it is positive. You know, if teens are having less unsafe or on sex in that way. It's interesting or doing less binge drinking or doing less, you know, opioids or different types of drugs. So. It's just such a fine line. But that podcast was really good. It was on ritual and it was interesting to hear her talk about how to have these conversations with their kids and a lot of it is the demonstration. And a lot of it is the vulnerability in the clarity around while you're doing what you're doing. And the one thing she did say is stink. Consistent is staying consistent with your messaging staying consistent with your values stink consistent with your methods of punishment. Yeah. Know in quotes, whatever that is. But it just reminded me again, that I have such hope in the next generation, I have such hope that the growing consciousness that were all seeing, you know, really is magnified with them and what they're doing. And that we now have the tools and the ability to kind of see over time how these trends with boys and girls work, and then maybe to work against them so that they can have a better chance. You know, maybe them we did, and maybe definitely went our parents did. And the parents. Sure. Yeah. And I have hoped for, like our generation becoming parents, like if we're lucky enough to become parents and to be able to be as honest in our processes, and also as consistent in our, in our ways in which we teach, as you know, as best we can. Yeah. The consistency is an interesting thing because I can imagine that kids, you know, are always thinking we'll why because as as little little toddlers, the question was, but why, but why, but why and that just like translates, as you get older, and they're kind of trying to track like, but that doesn't make sense like the inconsistency, confuses them frustrates them. And then they act out. So whether it's lying or, you know, doing whatever it's an interesting thing to track. But if you're just honest with them, they understand exactly why are doing this, you know, in response to what they did, then they can just connect the dots a bit easier and get less frustrated because sometimes they don't know why they're frustrated. They just know that like this is making sense. You know, I must be stupid, and then they revert to whatever behavior, but I think that's a really good point. And I think you don't want to stop the but y you know, I say hopefully, thought whites everything today, totally and that's one of my, you know, one of my favorite things about living, but it's a conversation, it's like why an you tell them why? And you told them it's not like, don't ask me. Why just do it? It's but why tell them? Yeah. You know. Yep. Totally so that one was good ritual. You can listen to that. Maybe we'll have around the podcast, just because I really, you know, and that's something I don't think about, you know, I don't have kids right now. I don't have a teenager, but I just like to learn about everything like that because it does also help you understand yourself. Yeah. Of course. And that's the goal for most people understand themselves. So in these conversations about parenting, about raising kids about raising teenagers as you're listening, and you're female, you probably have been a teenager once. So it helps you understand a lot about what you were doing better. Yeah. And the there's a still. L a teenager inside of you like I sure. Yeah. Pissed just prey. Oh, she's listening to labral Levin, and she's in her granite or pillow. Honestly phone is hurting her ear. Oh my God. Remember those days? Your boyfriend on the phone, you believe they're crying or laughing and then you just like fall asleep and it'd be like beep. Beep. Let me switch gears needs to have the cell phones from limited though, like see through. Oh, jesus. Yeah. Because we're sick so many I am the blow up chairs and like everything was see through everything was see through with glitter totally like. All right. My mom's lagging sure this is ugly. But sure. Yeah. But same with, you know, the conversation, we have, you know, today for you all with Denic Brayshaw. And Billy Haley makes me think about that too, where, you know, this might not apply directly to you. But the way in which, you know, they have found the honesty and the relationship ways to create space, in the relationship, you know, even the infidelity part, just thinking more about, you know, the gut instincts, that danika had around that behavior. I do think there's going to be things that all of you can take away. Yeah. It was it's really beautiful. You know, and I feel really thankful that Dannon chose almost thirty to be the first place that she is having the open conversation about her relationship with Billy and the status that they have. Now, if you guys remember when we first talked to her, she wasn't with him. So if you go back very far she wasn't with him. But in between that time she did a tour of the United States to sixty six stops for her brunch. Sear. Series and within that her, and Billy had an RV. They cooked all these beautiful homes. They helped women with their self care routines. They grew very close. They fell in love at the end of it. You know, they decided to do conscious uncoupling and to take a break and within that time, you know, things changed. And Billy had issues with relapse. He's been a very open and honest, addict throughout their entire relationship and even at the beginning and through the brunch series tour. So he had issues with that at the end, and they are able to continue on their relationship in the way that works for them in an open way where they are communicating very, honestly where they are not hiding anything where they are still in each other's lives, and they're still supporting each other and seeing each other grow, and it is an amazing thing. So this conversation happens during the process. This is at the end this isn't a happy ending. This isn't a sad ending. It is during in the middle of a process. So if you're in. Ship. If you're with someone who's not if you're in a situation where you love someone, but you don't know if it's best to be together, and you're trying to explore it or you're in love with someone. And you think it's best to be together. But you just don't know how this conversation's perfect for you. If you are identical Brayshaw fan, this conversation is extra perfect for you. We are huge fans of hers. And we are happy to have this honest, and raw conversation with her and Billy and share with you. Yeah. Totally there was also a piece that was intriguing to me, because, anytime things happen within a romantic relationship. You know, there is repercussions with family and friends as to like, maybe judgment. They care about you. So it just kind of adds a layer of, like, you know, discomfort, or something, you have to think about, you know. So that was really interesting to talk to her about, but yeah, and I just think of this, as, you know, your relationships in your life are one of the biggest pieces of yourself care. So creating the boundaries in relationship. Really having that open and honest communication with that person. And it does affect your health, you know, like overall it definitely affects your health. So this is something that I think is really important for all of you to hear it's in real time and super super honest enroll. So thank you, again, to Denka and Billy for being so honest, and sharing your story and we love you. So listen to this episode if you love it, it resonates with you, or if you want to share it with someone you can share on Instagram, Texas to a friend. Whatever it is. We always appreciate it, and turn the secret Facebook group. We'll talk more about it in there. On tour way love you. I love you. Enjoy. So did you start for did you guys meet? And then you guys were like let's do tour, a definitely swipe right? But he. But he. Did you guys met and then you're like let's go on a tour or did you say, I want to go there, and then you tender? And I said, let's go into tour. No. Do you want to go get it? Okay. So. We met on Tinder in November. I remember seen this lifetime. Yeah. Yes. Let's beat I was living in my parent's garage. Billy was in sober living. A lot going for us at the time data over living. Yeah. I mean it's not recommended because you should focus on yourself there here we are. The window for her with anyone. Oh, that's nice. Okay. So yeah, we, we were dating for quite some time. And Billy's been a chef for fifteen years and thought and I have used a lot of self care tools to transform my life, manifesting, and all that sort of stuff. And I thought I really wanted to share that with people. And so we thought, well, we'd love the idea of working together, and having sort of a little more freedom to our work life, rather Billy working at a restaurant and crazy hours or what up, you know. And just so we decided to put a little event together and hosted in our yard and in all fairness, like I, I watched her like cultivate, this idea over three days on a weekend, a little computer and she just visualize from start to finish and we walked into the weekend just kind of like oh, let's have a good weekend together and we walked out with a tour. And she did this all on three days start to finish in conceptualize it in put it all together. And it was like it's pretty amazing to see somebody like big picture, I meant go get it. Sure it was. Yeah. So we just we did a few events in January at our will the first one sold out in, like six hours that was in. Yes. We did him in southern California. We did three in January six and February five in March, and we saw a lot of people flying out or driving out every month for the events. And we had thought about more of like a minimalistic nomadic lifestyle. And thought we wanted to give it a try. And so it was going to be a two month tour. And we put something out to see if people wanted to host one of our events at their home, and we had one hundred sixty people to them at their homes. We were like, oh, okay. Cool. Wow. You guys getting ideas for venue tour. Then it's pressure. And then I come to their house, and I'm like can we turn up the lights a little bit? And can we put onto diffuser and can we Frankenheimer flowers over here? This is my house. If we bring our two hundred and twenty pound dog. Yeah. Cody, but so we, we were just blown away by with the amount of people who were generous enough to welcome us for something like that. And we plotted at all out and realize that if we were going to do a tour with any sense of self care and wellness that it was going to be a lot longer than two months, ended up being eight and a half months. Total in twenty eighteen we did sixty six events. I can't believe. On that. Yeah. Like do do a couple event. So sixty six cities, sixty six events videos were one events as we do too. So, like a bigger city, we'd do Saturday Sunday. How would you so you, you had an RV? We didn't start with an RV no. And, and I can quit material. It was way too. Heavy from Jeep didn't do that kind of racist. Stay in hotels, Airbnb. Okay. It's hard to find what the two hundred and twenty pound dog. Wow. I haven't even thought about that. Yeah. And, and we stayed, and then eventually we, we just got tired of moving our stuff, not just in and out of people's houses for these events and out of different Airbnb is all the time. It was just the, the level of grounded. Nece was. We had a sense of a home, you know, like our little spot. We always had to set up our spot in somebody else's place, and then break it down clean it up. And then dope, packing event set up an event break and nothing was hours. And that's not to have a sense of home for like someone in recovery. Was that nomadic lifestyle helpful for you to be so busy to be so on the go, or was it like stressful where you are, like, what was that? Like for you. Mentally. I mean, the the place I was in, like I made danika Emma higher power. Right. So she keeping her and what she wanted to do in her life in that spot secured my my safety, like my my security. My everything was her all of a sudden, and I thought that was okay. And so, I mean it was hard, you, you go from being super connected Roman, the have accountability, and you have a circle and you have this process and you have a routine, and then just to essentially, I gotta resentment, and then I said, you know, screw it. I'm going to go with her. And she became a higher power into the so she was my program. What's the resentment? Resentment. I don't know how to really define it other than like I'm upset or angry at somebody for something, you know. So I said, you know, scream out in never having to look at myself for that, you know, it's your fault not mine. Right. And escape. Yeah. Resentment. How did that feel for you? Did you feel that he kind of put you there as that higher power? So all of this, we've mentioned moved into the an RV we've got an RV, and then we spent the, the next seven months living in RV together, which we actually loved. I mean, I think we do really well close to each other, a lot of realizations about our dynamic, and the codependency coming from both sides, and all that came from these last few months since we've been back mentor. So, I don't think at the time I realized that I was just like dude, this guy is all about serving me across the board. And he is just like what, you know, you see him as this man and man, who is so helpful, and so caring and loving and vulnerable, and, you know, for me the damn I've never been in a super serious relationship before. And so I didn't know any different. So the way that he served me, I thought that was just like a really beautiful partnership. And for me as an entrepreneur, I thought, okay? This is like that foulland. You know what I mean? It's, it's. You need. Sometimes you need it. And Billy doesn't always say is Billy took on the role of doing so many of the thankless things that I got a lot of credit for. And so I'm on the front people. See, oh, you're doing all of these things, but they didn't see necessarily how he holds me emotionally every single night when I'm stressed out are burnt out Orie, does the dishes and takes care of the dog in cleans, you know, even. Yes. So. I didn't realize until probably after a billion tell you kind of a little more of this how we got where we are now in as it relates to him. But I didn't realize until we both sort of jumped back into recovery, and back into these conscious conversations when we got back from the tour and life, she actually made space thing rather than being in the hamster wheel of time when you're busy all this time, there's no reflection. There's no pause. There's no introspection you're just doing doing doing. And there's no space for being not this kind of what the tour was. So I think things had we've been going slower, maybe we could have slowed down and realize that things were maybe a little stickier or not so consistent or routines were suffering. But we didn't realize until we got back. You don't know what, you know, your, your normal is your normal until gift to remove yourself from that, and go. Oh, that's why. No, I get it now. But you know it takes a lot. Yeah. What was the co-dependency? Like where did you? Discover that. That's what that was an can you? Fine it for audience. Well, do you want to share sort of this path of? Well, I guess, with code. It's pretty new like, honestly the last couple of months is just when we started looking back at everything going. Oh, now this makes sense you know, I was kinda wasn't forced to get sober again. But I definitely relapse when I first met danika briefly in the net through the tour like that was, you know, every now and again, and it just grew. I'm an addict. So it makes me feel better. It makes me not feel I want more of it, and different made those mistakes. But a lot of the behavior in our relationship came from my addiction. And then her are dynamics were shaped by that. Right. And so everything I was doing was don't look at the real me. I don't wanna lose you because if you see the real may, you're gonna leave, right. And so here let me put this on. But now and that's that's the hard part. And then, so she got used to that dynamic. This is how we were right? I was this way. She was this way. And then coming back in, you know, a couple months, clean sober. We're talking about a relationship, and it's different. What do you mean? It's different you. I'm used to you being like this semester. You give me this used to give me. Well, that's not healthy for me. Right. So what is that? And then we had to look at this is where we co dependent. What's going on our dynamic had totally shifted, because a healthy version of me puts me I you know, without me being put I, I don't get her, but we can interact the same way because a lot of that dynamic is, is co dependence, depend, I depend on her to feel okay inside. She depends on me to feel okay inside. And that's not healthy, right? Anything you need on the outside of you to be put inside to feel K. That's not okay. You know. So this board codependency became it's totally new for me. Because in my head, I'm like, I'm a financial independent business woman. And and and you know what? What kind of happens over the course of the two, you know, we've been together now two and a half years right off the bat. Billy said this is me and that was the thing that I was so attracted he said, I'm you know, I'm in recovery. I'm a drug addict. I'm in this in this in this, I've had these felonies. I've had he shared all of himself and for me that was the most attractive thing to see a man be vulnerable. This man be honest and, and we built a trust. And so over the course of our relationship, there were a couple slip-ups where, you know, he smoked pot. Right. Or and head bowed or something. Or there was some, you know, just just couple of these different kinds of ups and trust started getting diluted because I lost my trust then. Okay. And then I lost my trust again, and our trust dot lower and lower and lower until it kind of created a really unhealthy balanced, so by the end of the tour because my gut instincts were going off all the time and it doesn't mean they were right every single time but were a lot. But it really did a number on our trust. And we just finally were like we need space. We, we need some space and went to Mexico and it just ended up being Mike. No, the phone true. Classic. One where they sell drugs over the counter. Yeah. So anyway, you know, we've been navigating this may live pretty publicly. We've been in the public eye, and it's just one of those things that you can't you have to give yourself space and it's changed a lot of dynamics for that piece of I know for me for my career, but it's been one of those beautiful things. So the trust sort of went away, and eventually, we got back, and it came home, this kind of head where he was like, I'm detoxing. And I was under the impression that he was detoxing from, like, not hard drugs. I didn't know until four month three months ago that he had actually relapsed on heroin and. Yeah, that's always been opiates for me. I drink a long time that, that was the thing for me that a lobby not to feel. Never go back. What's hard because I think it's true. I think a lot of people associate the feeling of opiates with love. It's very, very similar, and I it's also consistent, you know. So if you don't have love and you don't have consistency in your life, that I know how that makes me feel and it never fails until it does, you know. So was it on tour that you are slipping up finding before then I mean, like first of all, if you if you're if you're an addict or Nakahara like, like, doesn't, you can put us in any city in the world and NFL and I'll find what I need just how that's I'm a I in the tune that way, I seek, what I want. You know that's why I'm here with her. So, but yeah, I mean it's anywhere, you know, and you can only try to control it far because I keep up this front for her, right? She can't see how broken IM. She can't see how much pain I'm in. Right. Because then she'll leave me she leaves me. Then what what does that make me? Right. So I mean just trying to keep hustle on top of doing a tour on top of trying to. Keep up this personality that when she met me, like I was this person. And I was that person. And then I stopped being that person that I had to fake it, that's always really hard. You know. Think addiction looks buried addiction seems very different until you're in it people like, how do you not know Billy's someone? It's not like when he was using he wasn't showing up. It's not like he wasn't doing his job. And like wasn't laying around all day wasn't. He would. You know, maybe my instincts went off a little bit. But other than that. It was monks who is doing what he said he was going to do across the board except for using, you know. So, so it, it looks very different when you're in it, then when you're then what you think it might not like look like and I've been going alanon now and it has, which is a program for people who've friends in our loved ones family in recovery, and learning so much. And I'm in this new space where this word co-dependency and ego and what you realize what alanon is, is this actually a program for us for me? It's not about in the qualifier. You know thought about the person that got you in there. It's about looking at your own world. Because in my perspective for most of the time, I thought, oh, Billy's using that's him. It's all his faults. That's all him. I have nothing to do with that. Some people in those relationships do blame themselves. It's all everyone's situation's different. But for me I I just saw. He's broken. I want to help them. I want to help fix them, but I can't and I also don't want to get dragged down with it. So how do I create healthy distance? Which is why for a while we had we were trying to navigate this space and this grey area. But we're so in love. So it was the sort of a very confusing space to be in. Was there ever any time because you have your brand panic Prussia? And then there's model meals, and I'm just wondering, like were you ever resentful for, like, kind of what was going on as it relates to your business because I think, like, you know, we, we are in our masculine, so often just like running the business making sure everything is running smoothly so to have that compassion and slip into that feminine. I don't know how easy that is. So what was that, like, you know, we have separated in terms of bottle meals? That's we've kept that separate intentionally my business partner, and I had a conversation when I met Billy because I love him and he's an incredible chef. So we cut that separate. So it's been that's been separate. But I think what's what's hard is what was hard, as I'm so used to share. Ring my life and not because I feel like I have to just because it's natural and it feels good to me. And I connect, but when someone else is involved, you also you have to be really cautious of their own of giving them privacy in space, because it's not all mine to fair me sharing how I'm feeling would out him. And it's not my, my I can't tell I can't do that. That's not fair. You know. And so what I will say is. Billy is incredibly conscious man. The the way that he can talk about feelings emotions and consciousness and these, and so never it always in our relationship. He is the, the addict is has enough. Shame. And they're beating themselves up enough. Like they don't need other people doing it there already. I mean and you can speak to this more than I can. But he's so conscious and he it's so beautiful. And so what it turned into this beautiful lesson for me of, of keeping things of going through things on my own, and the truth is it's pulled me away from social media a lot. But it's exactly where I needed to be. Yeah. Because I was thinking about. It's like your perception of the situation isn't his truth, right? How you perceive whatever things going on is in the actual his truth of what he's experiencing. And it's interesting about the Al-Anon. That you brought up as I remember when we had a D Jeffy and Sophie Jaffe on their amazing, the best number one, and they talked a lot about, she talked a lot about her role and her active participation in his sex. Addict in him being a sect Dodig em him being a former addict, and how when she finally took responsibility necessarily, but a look at herself in the mirror, and how she was participating in the situation like everything changed everything changed for her. Everything changed for him. I'm curious about a time when you had an intuitive hit about something going on and it was confirmed, right? Which one? That's what I'm thinking, which I guess on the list. With her intuition, where you like. No, that's not true. Like because sometimes you know, the immediate reaction for someone if they're used to deny no matter what you did this, you know, if it's true in a minute, later like yacht is true. Your immediate reaction is to defense. Did you deny every time and you're like no, no no or hose? Absolutely not. I'm always on the defensive because I'm always in the wrong like I'm never transparent about my behavior. My activities aren't for sure. But, you know, this, this is the funny thing with danika is, you know, we had this conversation month month or two ago and she had said, if, if you wanted to use you can use just you should've told me about it, it, you're an adult you can do what you wanna do. You know, and she would have more accepted that honesty than me lying about it. So I could came to her and said, you know, a really over the sobriety shit. I just wanna get high right now but I want you to know what I'm doing. And this is what I'm gonna do, and that she could accept that. And then decide how she feels about that. And but that the actions can have consequences. You know, I thought if she saw the fact that I, I wanted to do that or at one is not feel that she was going to judge me, I'll stick, and see how broken she's gonna leave anyway. So amounts of not tell anybody and save, you know, the whole shame and guilt over it, because I know it's wrong action in oh and but I, I never had anybody to trust them. I mean I I she has the most trust. I haven't an in anybody in this world. And even then it's still everything suspect makes I can't believe that you actually give shit about me, right? You really don't. Because the world's that way, but she does. And so, yeah, you know it's. I think the moment, but you're asking the moment that came to my mind is when MRs probably about three months ago, it was right before you got sober when he stayed over at my house, we, so we had taken like a month, where student day where we where we didn't talk. We came back. We went to Mexico and I went to Mexico and Mike. My intention was I wanted to face, I won't clarity on what I want to do next to my career next life. Right. And the clarity, I got was that we really needed some space, because things weren't working the way that we were doing things and so that became this entire trip was this conversation and I'm so grateful because I had planned to get off social media for week and do all that. So it really gave us this week to actually be an cry, and I got sick because obviously, eight cheesecake off street and, you know, a bunch of other stuff, but then we came back and we decided we make him back. Let's take a month and just not really talk for each other and see how that goes, and wouldn't, you know, well, and then, so after that time, really, let's get together and talk about things. And as one does when you love each other we at first, it was offered for like ten minutes, and then it was like I wanna touch you. And then. Here we are, but, but eventually, you know, we can re reconnected, and he was in a spent then he started going to meetings, and you'd gonna sponsor and what are you did it? Maybe he did it. That's the face of I should have told you the truth into I'm sorry. No, I high attempted it. But like you said those things because I wanted you to think. Because I was please love me again, please do it again. Again. You don't know what I'm I want to do these things. But it didn't. Yeah. And so he stayed over one night and I was in my bed, and I had this gut feeling up less, and he was in the bathroom, which is kind of like a us turn bed. So I couldn't see it and I was and I was like, what are you doing there? He use accounting come in the doors open. It's like come in here. Nothing. And so I was. My gut. One of knows I'm gonna fucking go in there, and so and okay with me down. It's fun. And there was like a needle in his pocket as what is that? And he had forgotten put it there. And he told me with steroids time, so we had a conversation about steroids. Why are you doing Sarah? I love you. Exactly, as you are, like this whole. Yeah. More pay what arguments going to be? At art for sure. Because in this, this and that, that's what we do. I what, what what's damage control? My whole life is damaged control. It's going to cause the least amount of, of shame guilt, frustration. And like, you know, might be able to get out of it right here. At that point. I was like. I wasn't almost wasn't even mad because it wasn't surprising anymore, and I sort of weird sort of broken up, like we were sort of navigating this new space, and I was like, okay, this is not, what am I going to whatever, you know, those kind of along the lines of unique to figure yourself out? And so he apparently talked with sponsor that night, I got rid of things, and I don't know how soon after that. But you eventually kind of when you share. Oh, that was kind of like the beginning. Demise of it. You know, if you're not, like I am, like I can't keep it going for very long things get really bad for me really fast because progressive illness, right on, I don't start where I left on. I mean I don't start the beginning. I start where I left off and shortly after that, I remember I leaving there and I don't know how long ago I was mainly staying in my car at this moment that, but she didn't know that, like you have to have everything together. So my friend called me. And he said, hey, easing as an alcoholic he's expedition, and he's really close to me helped me through a hard time couple years ago when we're going through treatment and use. Hey, you know, I don't want to be alone. We come hang out with me. And yes, please I need a break need a place where I could actually be honest, I don't have to hide things. I could just be me which is never in life. And you know, we're is in the hotel room in Huntington, and we go hang out in, like I remember the first time like this feeling of being relaxed I finally could sit down and I didn't have to pretend anymore. I could put me out in this is. What it is. I can don't be secret that could just be me and it was great. And then I went to the rest use the restroom. And as I came back out he had done some of my drugs on the table. And I remember looking at his eyes in and I watched him fallout. Stop breathing. Stop breathing in front of my face. And I remember going over to him trying to keep them alive screaming for help. We're in the lock we'll tell room and I'm trying to scream for help might doing chest compressions on him. And I don't know what I'm doing really. I'm screaming. And then like this is real now. Like Israel fuck. I can't even get five minutes of, of any kind of peace and while I'm while this is all going on. I remember I thought three things I thought one. What does he get this break? Right. I was using I wanted to break from lane like this never happens to me. So how come you? How come he gets it? He doesn't deserve it. I do. Right to, I also I love this person. I know who he is intimately like, I know his family and his kids, and I realized that if he dies, I'm never going to be the same already taken off toxic ownership over my life as it is. And if he had his death into it is the rap I MAs would just bucket and just keep going. Don't look back. And then one of the best things that have happened to me. Also said because I'm typically a us alone, I don't use with people. I'm not around people. I'm always by myself, and I said, I always used to say, well, if this happens to me, and I remember specifically saying, you know, when this happens to me might if became a win, and I knew I was going to die if I continuing when this happens to me, I'm going to be alone. No one's going to be here to save me a scared me because I don't want to die and that, that was the. I'm like it's not a game anymore. Guys like the party's done like it. Luckily he survived went to the hospital, but that was the last night. I used I wouldn't call them a good friend of mine that works for treehouse sedan, he'd helped me, I don't know what I'm doing anymore, and that started this journey, and that was really only almost ninety days ago. Tomorrow. Yeah. Is heavy heavy situation. But that's the kind of added, I am you know, I, I need massive events to happen before I can stop. Once I started that simple thing. 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I think it's a free person, but for me exempt like my mother is really the only family, I mean I have extended family, but my mom's really only one that's been there for me and. My pain that I experienced from my past, and how I grew up in and all that overwhelms that, like I don't wanna feel it anymore. The shame and the guilt and, and all the traumas I don't wanna feel it any more. So in my brain, I would sacrifice everything not to feel not to remember not to feel. I don't really care how much you love me like that doesn't stop the pain. Right. So my whole goal is I, I wanna not hurt. That's it. And so that, that overwhelms any kind of love that anyone can give you, you know, and that's first and foremost, because if I don't get that I feel like I'm gonna die. Yeah. So I mean that, that's for most people drowns all that out that pain and that shaming the go, it overwhelms everything. So thankful like I just love you both so much. And I'm so thankful you're sharing and being so honest, and, you know, it's interesting when you're talking about, like using alone, it's like shame loves to get you allow shame loves when you're alone and being in situations like this, where you're surrounded by people, and you're being very honest. Even just saying that one lie that, you know, came up is so important, and not small and not that it matters, what I say, but when you do think about shame in situations where any of us have felt shame it loves when you're alone. And that's the moving away from lake where we are, as humanity in consciousness expansion, which we've talked about yesterday and fear is aloneness. And that's digital be alone. Yeah. It also can't survive. Yeah. Exactly. So your friend. So when he got when the, the hospital came and everything like that, or the, the he was able to go to the hospital. What happens in that situation? Like do you get someone getting like trouble or the basic? I mean he was resuscitate did obviously in usually well, in California, you have what's called the good Samaritan law. Because people were dying because no one would call on overdoses. So if you call on an overdose whoever's at the scene, you don't get questioned. You don't get you just get your name and then they let you go, no matter what's found, you know, but as soon as you leave the property where you're at then that's different story. But, you know that's because people were not saving anybody your Odeon I'm gonna get in trouble. So it's mere you, you gotta go and that's not okay. And that's one of the things I thought of in the moment is I got I don't care if I'm in trouble like I just want him to live, you know, and because it just. I care about them so that I've seen a lot of people overdose in my lifetime. Absolutely. But nobody cared about. So that was an experience to help you. If you OD like that's one thing. But like I care about this person, I don't want him to die, which is the I've never had that feeling before. And it's been an ongoing process like any other day called him crying. I just Google Fenton all in don't Google Fenton all and, you know, through this process, I've been very open about within the people close to me about sort of being the partner to someone in an and a lot of people who don't understand the diction are gonna tell they want you to stay safe. I get it. Like I get went for my loved ones say, what are you doing in that? And so these last few months have been this conversation internal conversation with me and my coach and my friends, and like, whoever and you really have to just like a little word of wisdom really need to be careful with who you seek advice from and, and obviously the people that love you. But just keep in like, if nothing else, make sure you have a strong enough foundation in your own desires to come back to yourself. No matter what information comes into and make judgment called based on. What you really what feels right to you, because if I had followed the sheds in my life, but all the things I thought I should do, I would never have this incredible man. He has grown me in ways that I can't even articulate and, and he the things that he brings to the table are so different, you know, so much in my life. I'm like I need this like a successful entrepreneur, who's jetting around the country and do all the things and it's like fun, though. I'm gonna give you exactly what you need. And it was this love. I'm Billy is someone who makes me feel orcas me opportunity to be exactly. Who I am? You know. And so through this conversation, it's been it's been for me internally, do I close the store and move on. And then maybe we reconnect one day down the road and things work, but I also can't hold onto that. So it was that, and then the other side was, or do I stay in this and put in the work and, and see what happens. And in the beginning, it was, I was like I'm out. I was so hurt. And then eventually, I got really clear. And I took a lot of the space that I need. I haven't taken on any work stuff like I literally have said, no to everything this year because I needed that space. And I finally realized that, regardless of if this works out between us or not this process will grow me. You know, and I'll, I'll be able to help other people and more than anything he's worth fighting for. He is the most incredible sweet. He really is one of the most incredible beautiful souls is such a light. He's so and, and he says sensitive at which is probably what, what has driven you to use a lot of the time is, you have such beautiful sensitive, and, and he's worth it. And I know that we together were given this experience because we're going to speak out about it, and we're going to be able to help a lot of you. And so the truth is, we're going through right now, like this is the first time and that's why I you know, when we were talking about this pockets, I was, like you, two are the ones who I would have this conversation with, and let me talk to billions, if it's something that he wants to do. You know, it's his story to tell to. And so I'm just so grateful that we're in the space on, I hope we can return down the road and say, okay, this is what we learn. Because we're in it right now. But it has brought it has been some of the most growth provoking conscious conversations about our dynamic, and how we worked together and how we support each other and how we and what it comes back to. And I know you will agree. On this is what it comes back to is focused on yourself. Yes. If I'm gonna heal him or I'm going to help him. It's only by me continuing to do the work on myself in setting boundaries in, like one of the thing is if we're going to be together like you have to work it out on program like you have to speak the same language because I'm just learning to speak this languages. Sophie, and it's the first time I've been, I've been around recovery for a long time, and I can honestly say the first time I feel like I'm in it might like I I'm invested in fully invested and you let's realizing that I don't have all the answers, and I'm not your solution. But, but I want to find an answer with you for sure. And it's brought up for me. I can pretty open about my experiences with food addiction, and disordered eating, and I spent time in overeaters anonymous and just recently, it made me realize from the co my codependency was in, he became this emotional supports me. He was what instead I used to use food to take the edge off and for love and comfort and all this stuff and he kind of stepped in and. The foods role. So I was like cool. The food is like Mallow. Realize this lightbulb just recently. Oh Billy's, a new food. And I mean you, you guys are looking at me. He's a snack, right? But, but, you know. So it's really cool because his this experience Bill. Billy is someone who has no ego. And he is will he is one of the most humble guys of one of the most he's just wants to serve, and he just wants to help, and he is willing to do the work on himself. He is like in a conversation to hear a man's always. He will he will see his role in it. You want accuse me, he just says, maybe I didn't see it this way. Or maybe I missed something here. You know, just to from for to see a man, and I think that's why this conversation mindfulness community entity is so important as well to see a man feel like speak about their feelings and be vulnerable is so important. Yeah. And so, yeah, through through this experience, led me back into the overeaters anonymous program, which has been incredible and into alanon. And like we said this shame thrives in being so low. And so what a beautiful thing to find these, these are recovery. It's, it's based on community and it doesn't mean that this. The solution for everyone. But for us, it's been really helpful. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, we're equally as grateful to hold space for a conversation like this, and that you trust us, like I do you know, we don't take that lightly, subpoenaed, you, but I find it so interesting within like just in, like the micro of our community. And when they sometimes they'll ask us like, no post the secret Facebook group like I really wanna see expanders for like this type of relationship like show me this and it's so funny. How we I've done this to where I'm like, I really wanna see, like the ideal like show me that really what is more productive and deeply kind of encoding like in our body, and be able to receive is, is seeing the real so like listening to a conversation like this, and understanding the highs and the lows in the dynamics of, of growth, and expansion and then. You know, relapse and recovery and, and dependency, and then being independent within relationship like I need to see that, you know what I mean. Because we all are we all have those aspects within our relationships or will will have those aspects was within our relationship. So where was I going with that? But I just I of want to highlight that this is real and this is what we should be seeking in, like the ideal model of that. Yeah. I mean we're merest each other. Yeah, I look at Billy and what we've learned in the last I mean for me ego rights service like the way he lives, his life. It's the opposite of, you know, not that I we just we, he teaches me so much, and I think the most what happened with the codependency peace and what he was saying is he learned to serve me because I represented security. So what happened was he ended up fearing saying anything or doing anything could potentially push me away? So as a result, I wasn't challenged, you know, if no one if. Your partner should be there to give you feedback with love with love being the core. But feedback is so important in a relationship because I love growth and, and because he didn't it was too vulnerable for him to say, hey, European fucking selfish. When you do that, or like you need to, like, look at this thing he couldn't he didn't want to say that because it would. And so our dynamic got really. A lot of it stems from the, you know, not being able to live my truth. Right. First of all, I didn't know much Ruth. I mean I, I kind of different versions of it for everybody. But, like if I told her the truth on things she would leave or she wouldn't be worth it. And if she goes cured, he's gone, and, like, don't leave me. I just I remember saying we were getting in an argument on the bus, and I remember just tone of go look at. We're. We've got an argument and I was like he just she felt that she was making me feel like I wasn't doing enough. I didn't have an online business. I wasn't starting my I all it was doing was the tour and for me. That was a lot. I remember saying you know what? Like I have a dog I have a girlfriend, I love I have for the first time I have money in the Bank. I don't have to struggle kind just enjoy this without having to push me anywhere because it's going to go the me enjoy before leaves. Right. So that was like my initial like I in and everything I did was just a expected it to go because if you're going to see the room eventually, so I just want to try to piece everything together. So you were just just happy. Keep everything. All right. And I was projecting mind, not enough nece onto him. You know, like my self worth for very long time was attached to achievement. I'm gonna have all these businesses and I'm going to go on tour and I'm gonna be this on Instagram and whatever it is. And so much of my self worth was bad. Right. And so I was value him in that way. And those were. Things that he was valuing. He was valuing his serenity in peace. And, and, and the thing is with what Bill is saying is like, we get so afraid for someone to see who we really are put on these masks, we wear these different. No personalities. When the reality is all we wanna do is see that, that real self. You know, I see it. It's like those glimpses. It's when you can love. It's why you love someone over and over. No matter what happens. You're like it's cut. I see you like you're in there when you said to me, like, I, I see that I see what you get your potential ic- issue. She's I see that word potential anymore known as though. She used to say, like I, I, I see, you know, you don't like yeah. I, I don't like me enough to look at me. You know that she could see pass all that stuff, which I'm so grateful. She did because that was like a little bit of hope that maybe I was missing something in my subjective. Reality wasn't actually fact in that was a huge, huge. On our tour Bill. There was a part of our tour would really came out and spoke and the women, like I would read their posts in the insert math, and they'd be like, in the best part was like Billy came out, and he told you the story. Really his story and that moment when they got to hear him speak, and they saw his light like everyone else can see it said, that's why that's why you hurt so many people is because you're very lovable and they seed your light. And so it hurt like you should be you should understand that, that you have worth solely even based on the fat, obviously, just because you're here, but solely on the fact that you can even hurt people if you didn't matter then you wouldn't hurt people. Like your behaviors actions went hurt people. I mean I get that now but you realize I'm fighting we fight for me. Thirty five years of conditioning bike, you know, Paloma therapists is like I decide what the world is between the cats and Billy buttons, and between that time for me was very traumatic and I believed life to be a certain way. So I opted on that, that motive like this. I have to protect me from the world. I'm really not worth it. I'm not worth loving. I'm neither is all these things were built in. And then now you know, I live my life to, to not suffer from things. I did you know, so it's hard he realizes mindful masculinity. Like what does that mean to you guys? She's, she's Boorda masculine one in the religion. My limits me means, just I think more than they think men and it doesn't just have to be men. But I guess speaking to men directly would be to be in touch with their emotions like tap into this, this fem that, like, what, how the feminine tons tap into intuition? We try tend to lead a life from feeling. I spent most of my life, not feeling my feelings, and shoveling down them down with food. I was never vulnerable. I never it just wasn't the conversation that I was having. And when I learned to feel my feelings, and stay my body. I realized I had this compass. It talked told me everything I needed to know rather than you know, reasoning something out in your head. All the should I actually could trust how I felt my body and Bala that. And so I think for men to be able to actually be feelings base in some ways and to fall, their motions and, and to talk about them be vulnerable. I can't imagine the pressure that men have on them to be. A certain way and said, be strong and to be manly, and to not be sensitive and cry. Like god. I don't have any of that. I was never raised that way. I didn't have like a strong masculine figure in my life is raised by my mother and my grandmother. Right. So it's a very feminine. I fill out of energy like I know the golden girls by name I guy I enjoy cooking and cleaning and loving and caring nurturing like these are all things that I enjoy, I don't really care about sports. I don't I don't care how tough I am. I don't need to prove how much auto like I don't care. You can do all that, you know, weight, which is, you know, I think for me like the mindful masculinity. I just kind of combined what? The women around me showed me, plus, with my own innate masculine, the energy. So it's just like it's a nice combination of both know I don't have to be tough. But I don't have to know everything, but, you know, I judge the world on by on on your actions. You know, like do you love enough? You know, you can't take any of this stuff with you. How are you treat? The Philip man next to, you know, like or woman next few people in general. I don't know. But it's just not having to be, what society, thinks a man should be, you know, I think it's I live most of my life trying to fit into this box that people told me I had to do you know what I didn't realize I didn't have to anymore. What do you do on days? When you're like, what are you tell yourself when you're like this is hard and, like the days where he's relapsed? And like it's been like what is that? Then like your inner conversation for. Yeah. So, so I've been doing Ray. He and hypnotherapy recently and I always have meditated for years. And I worked with. A coach really closely which are eminent. I acknowledged those are major luxuries and privileges and not necessary either. There's a lot of these e waste that sort of stuff free recordings for him. No therapy. That's the thing. But what I was doing when I found out, I was really angry. And there was the woman who reached outs me on Instagram during billion is I'm of gray the gray area. She reached out and said that she had been with him and. It was it slapped me across the face. My ego did not like that, course and it wasn't outside. I mean it was I was on a dating app. Like I wasn't you know, it was a gray area. I was it was a gray area. So we were kind of together, but, but, you know, do you know the power of women look. Yes. You know and reached out and said, you know, I've been through something like this, and I don't want, you know, just was really beautiful. And, and that was like a real, because because that I took personally the addiction, I never took personally, I didn't think it was my fault. And so it was kind of easy to say, I just wanna come out this from love, but I have to like set boundaries. Like, how do we navigate this, but the other one that hit me and so there were five and I was angry. And I talked to you like never talk to before we're usually very conscious communicators, I will say, not fun. I was mad. And I didn't talk to him for five days, which was five miserable days when you are used to talking to your best friend and sharing life with someone wrote letters during that time them because I had to get the emotions out like the feel and eventually, what happens in is, as we navigated this experience in as part of this recovery is Lee effector hearts, open and through. Achey and three hypnotherapy like one of the things that kept coming to me, it was open your heart open, your heart, and I'm like, oh, I feel my heart's open, and, and something clicked was on a walk with my our dog and, and my heart just like solid from what it really was. And I saw him as the light filled being he is an understood why he might make those choices. And he did a really good job of articulating why, you know, and, and it was just really beautiful to understa like step back and say, and be able to feel like I could see everything from love and what it did was it lead. This conversation between us about ego about codependency about, like we started like learning about is the first honest conversation, we've we've, we've had since I've, I met, you know, holds bar. This is what like this is what it is regardless of how about to say. This is how it is. Yeah, this is the truth. Start to finish. This is it. Yeah. And she put her truth out there and we saw with the truth matched him. Like, okay that's real. Because both are. The Bill and then where it didn't we talk more issues, hugely powerful, and that for someone going through through being with recovery. There are endless amounts of resources. So for me journaling helps me really get stuff out of my mind. There's a lot of literature, there's podcasts. But the meetings if if that appeals to go, go few times, don't make a decision off the first time but community is really powerful because we tend to think we're alone in everything and no-one. And I, I still struggle with that, that person can't relate relate to my lifestyle and that person, you know, and, and you realize more and more as you go, and you're in these communities that you hear the things you need to hear. So there's so many free resources. That's a beautiful thing. There's so many things out there to support. I'm curious how you guys have been able to create those boundaries or be more independent within the relationship to support recovery just to support like you both in a relationship as a couple. So what does that look like? And has it been challenging? We're still figuring that out right now. We the first time I've ever approached it like this for me. I, I know that we both have to work, our own programs. Like one of the things issues with us is that she's still filled with resentment in distrust in anger. I in barris -ment all these things like I can't hang out with her family all the time in, in her friends, they, there's, there's all these issues, right? And then I felt like she would look to me. Like what are we? What are you going to do about this? What are we gonna talk about this? Well, I can't solve that for you. You have to figure out how to solve the on your own and that path is different than my path. I'm figuring out my stuff with that in so I can come to an even playing field with you. And then over time we work on the trust. Right. That's consistency over a long period of time. Can we be transparent with each other? Can we tell each other? Honestly that led to a really good bunch of conversations about like, you know, do we wanna see the people doing not do you want to live openly? Do we not like I you know intent? Standing that the. It's just the, the thing that was the most attractive part about that is just the honesty that comes with it. And that's what we we're talking about here. Quickly. But you can you can we be on it. Can we just practice being honest and transparent? Let's start there. Right. And whatever that brings we'll go to the next step. But let's just see if we can be honest, which other about everything we do all the time. Even if it's like I really don't wanna see you tonight. I want to go and I'm going over here, and I need a break from all this. Can I just say that because usually I'm known at all break my boundaries because I want her to be happy and so for that lies and that that's been really difficult to navigate reminding myself that we don't have a relationship if there's, if he doesn't have his recovery both of them, don't really, you know? So, so I have to come second and what I had, you know, working with my coach when we were going through this. I realized that what I had to do is be strong enough to break the codependency. I had on the emotional comforts, he provided for me, but I had to be strong enough to give him permission to not take care of me or my feelings right now. And are we doing the best job in it probably not? But you to give him permission to say your, your recovery comes first. So if there's not time for me at the end of the day, then there's time, we'll figure it out. But I'll put my recovery. I in you put yours I. Yeah. Right. So no one's coming in second. Really in in your first time I when, when that said and done, then whatever time we have left we connect, and share about that experience in walk the same path going the same direction rather as opposed to me trying to carry her her trying to carry me. What, what he you know, these folks are no joke. This is not like I mean, you know, not to lessen what I struggle with, with food, but it's just not as life risking immediately. You know, it is long-term, of course, but, but if we don't pyro ties we, we don't provide ties that there's no us he will die. He's not like he's always says he's like I've had enough. I'll WADA chances and what's that thing. They say you either end up in institution or Joe's. It's does it do in institutions that ago two to three right now. So, right. Trying to say the third one. Yeah. It's interesting to the time I had, like a situation where I had like infidelity and it was a great during gray area, guys. Love grey areas. That was one thing I learned is never fucking big integrated area. But also to allowed us to really break down enough to rebuild, where there was Boehner ability, there was authenticity. There was like an openness there was like an emotional connection enough for me to like, for us to rebuild, and it really was the beginning of our relationship together really crazy thing. And that's why I think completely differently about those situations now to this day, you know, I have no judgment against either party. And I just see them from such different light in perspective. How is the rake in hypnotherapy helped you like what is that? The Mike great question. The Ricky is kind of just, I'm not doing it formally. I used to work with Kelsey Patel, who's amazing. She did it for me like five years ago, and she's just phenomenal. She's here in L A has a lot of resources. But I actually during the depths of some of our challenging times, I was on a photo shoot Cy model as well. And I was on photo shoot in Boston and my makeup artists, and my Silas, were both reheat. Teachers. Wow. And I was like, in this really dark like lays, and they both did rake, Yaman, yet me. And I really they, they sort of they did it separately. Came to me with the same message about opening my heart like they felt that individually and then the hypnotherapy do guided with a friend of mine, who is does it just virtually and same thing, a lot of like heart opening Sussman really powerful? I'm just really open to whatever is out there. I, I think what's been hard is. I'm really into self care. It's something that I that I you know, have made sort of part of my living and I do the things for the most part, not perfect. But I pretty much meditate every day, and I was feeling every day, and I was reading I was doing all the things in working out most of the time and eaten healthy while we were going through a lot of this, and, and it was and I was like I'm doing all the things and it's not working. And my coach actually said she said, you're so used to being able to figure things out and put things in boxes at this gray area is going to be the absolute best place for you to be. Because if you can get comfortable in this gray area where something doesn't. Fit in the box, and you can't define it, and you don't know what's going on. But you still have to exist throughout it. That's going to be really freeing. I've been trying. Yeah. Wow. How have you talked to your family? Oh, I mean it it through sleep. Yeah. I mean I get defensive Billy a lot and not to because. Yeah, the thing with relationships than whenever my friends asked me for relationship advice. I say, I tend to not give it I, I don't want to get it because I'm not in your relationship, and as a friend, or oftentimes seeing the bad stuff. Because when it's good there with the partner in their enjoying it together. And then when it's bad, they can't go to that person that's closest to them because it has to do with that person. And so they go to you. And so you're going to hear that, like negative and argument and all that for a lot most of your friends relationships Zolotas time. Right. Loves them lemons, relationships. So what it comes down to is seeking advice when people you trust who are living, the kind of lifestyle or thinking in the same way you are. But, you know, my coach the best that she doesn't give me advice. That's the truth. She just asked me questions, questions and you know she's incredible. And so she really her job is to help me, get clear on what I really. We want. And so, yeah, it's just it's been. And then with family, we haven't navigated yet. The truth is addiction comes with a lot of stigma, and it comes with a lot of misunderstanding, and if, if you didn't know someone who. If you saw belly and you would never think this guy is shooting drugs on his arm secretly. Right. And, and, and then and so your idea is what you see, driving downtown LA, or whatever it the addicts and whatever. But these addiction problems are helped happening in some of the wealthiest communities than in high schools like this these like wealthy, you know, would like a fluent educated. Frivolous communities are dealing with us in some of the biggest ways. And so I think that Billy story these opportunities to shares is opportunity to change the stigmas around the diction. And so for me with, with, with family with friends, I just. I have to I it's, it's been tough, and they go back and forth. But I'd have some I have incredible friends in for the most part. They just love me in, they listen. They don't tell me what to do. They just say we just want you to be happy. And so that's that I guess. Wilson. Yeah. That's always so hard. I have a guy friend to list is like on a small, very small scale but has a girl, and they've been through some stuff he would express it to friends and other friends have that idea. But grind. And they don't see the laughing and giggling, in bed at night, or you know, making pancakes in the morning. And I remember that even through high school and college that was like the way girls operated, you, would, you know, come together on these negative parts of your relationship express them, and then two weeks later he'd be like. I wanna tell them you're like, oh, and then it pushed here, because it pushes your friendship angry, because it puts them in a position where now you're kind of resenting them when author doing is being loving in trying to help, you know, like you have to be really cautious. But I'm great ball lucky that, you know, most of my friends are very conscious and having an understanding, but it's just something that we've had to navigate and again, like I said before we're in the beginning of it. I am. I am fresh to this alanon world. I am fresh, it's just it's fresh, you know, it's new, and so I think it's important to just share when you're in that point to and say, like I don't really know when I'm learning and Alan is like not to check up on him all the time like all at times, where I'm like, what are you doing? You know what's going on not to check up? I'm learning. Not too, like they say, like don't dump the alcohol down the drain just causes more like shame and issue like, you know the there's some learning a lot with how to deal with it and how to focus on me. You know, and I'm not perfect, but I'm learning a lot and I'm so grateful. I feel really grateful to how to for my life to have gone in this addiction arena, because I feel like the tools that are learned and taught through that program, the self awareness through any sort of recovery programs are so powerful universal their universal their power in the addiction. And I'm reading this book codependent, no more right now by melody beady really famous book on codependency. And, and I'm reading this list of the things that identifies cut it. I'm like, okay, so literally everyone, I don't know anyone who could read through this less than not highlight ten of these things. And so I think it's actually our culture that builds relationships based on you complete me your. My other half versus to individual whole beings that then come together to experience a sort of third identity that that is even brighter together. Right. But their individual their whole on their own. I think I like addiction, the most of everything. Because it's a very easy way to see your malady in what you need to work on a lot of people go their whole life struggling with this. They don't know how to put a name to it with food sex more, whatever it is be. It could be depending your whole life in your life would be not as flourishing, if you didn't get a chance to work on this stuff. Like I do. I'm in it every day. And because of my actions so glaring in my face I can see it very clear. Right. And, and I get a chance to work on a lot of people go through the whole life. Never you to work on any of this, or looking at this parts themselves or sharing this to the vulnerability in the truth, and being set frying, a lot of people, I know my family that are very there's, they don't know another way to live in. I know what that's like that's miserable. You know, you're not is free in his connected as you could be in. That's what that's I'm, like, really grateful for being in this arena as well. The, the parts of recovery are applicable to everyone in life. Can you talk about a few things? Oh, the twelfth sets of, of any anonymous program 'cause since from outgo alcoholics anonymous, but those steps to reply to everybody. Right. Okay. So like your your, your life can become unmanageable, right? With anything. We could eat it with, like I said, sex drugs, rock and roll women doesn't matter how it affects your life. I I love how Russell brand like his interpretation of the steps like I'm fucked. I'm not gonna fuck myself, but I'm willing to be invoked by those the first three steps that the best part about it in like the ability that I'm not God. And I don't have to be. But there's something out there bigger than me. Right. And there's bigger purpose. I think a lot of people, the fourth step is great because it does it like a inventory, resentments, everybody feels that I am wrong because of this, you know, and it's your fault. But if you break that down you can go through all the steps in every situation, you realize ooh ahead apartment. Department. I played Martin mostly everything. Very few exceptions in life. Did you not play a part in something? And even then your part in it is to maybe be vocal about it, or, you know, share your story it so you can help somebody else in. That's your partner. If you don't wanna do that, then story. But, but yeah, so to that applies to everybody. Right. Being able to make a list of people, you've harmed and be become willing to make immense them all except when to do. So would injure them or others rights or certain ones you can't make because might might hurt somebody else in, in the course of it, but may commence feud and it not just say, I'm sorry. But make amends go to somebody and say, hey, how can I make this? Right. I'm sorry. I wrong to you. And this is what I did. And this is how it hurts you. How can I make it right? And then do whatever is asked of you to do that. That's powerful. Right. Then you can actually walk through life with your head. Hi, everybody. Looks down. And they, they do things to people wanna talk about silly avoid people in this, and that, and that adds up after a while, you know, and so deliver clean in clearing ticket tents that everyday, so, at the end of my day I where have I. Gone wrong with whoever harmed, what have I said doing? They make an immense for something. Do need approach somebody in clear day, so you can go to you can go to sleep with your head empty and just full love? And then pray meditate for how can I carry this message of recovery in love anybody? Yeah. Everyone does that. And you should you know, to everybody and then, like the little principles within the program, you know, easy does it slowdown. You know, be have patients with yourself. You know. So I think those are those applied everybody if everyone could do the twelve steps to guarantee their life would be a lot easier. True. 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He mentioned God and I am curious about, like your relationship with God or source and how that has changed in recovery. And what's you see in yourself as that relationship? Strengthens. I think for me most of my life, I was if there was God I was mad at him. And I didn't appreciate I didn't understand. So I, I used to not believe in God. You know, you can't tell me this is all bite happens. This is all this is all your plan cer-, we you fucked up because this is not good. That was my initial reaction. And so I was talking to my sponsor about it. We are on step three and we were talking about journal, I will in my life over to care of goddess. I understood him in. Motto understand him in the started because of the fact that I knew that if I don't do this thing, right? I'm going to die. So I have the gift of desperation rights. Okay. Now it's real for me case me really look at what has God means to me. And he said something that was really profound to me. He said, well, you could just make it a group of drunks geo D group of drunks when you're in alcoholics anonymous when you're I make better decisions when I'm vulnerable with that relationship. But it takes a two way street. So I gotta tell everyone how I'm doing. I gotta be vulnerable. I got put the work, you gotta show up, you know, have to communicate and take advice in, when I'm in that source like my way, better decisions and my life gets better, you know. And so for me in the beginning as right group trunks, was all I needed. Good orderly direction that was tangible for me, because God's not really centrally tangible yet, for me that made it real. So I can put my faith that this worked for them when I'm here I make better decisions. That's a higher power than me. Good enough. To get started. Idea of God is a man and fell. Oh, and I, I hate how like, first of all, even if you know what God is. Which you don't doesn't have a gender, like, why would God have gender by religions? I think the only way man can make God tangible, but there's no gender. It's bigger than you realize if you know what happens when you die your liar. Right. If you know what God really is your lower. You have maybe your own personal conception of him. But you don't know nobody knows it's bigger than that. And you know, so that always a helped me to just focus on what's in front of me, and let the seed grow. A white man. Yeah. You might think of God is like this man with a white beard or something. It was like I don't like men. If you live with men, I him, he was, like, no, thanks. No less than one was another man to let me down, right? This os. No, no good for me. But it ended it's not. Yeah. In the nostril tradition. It's so FIA. Timers sophia. Petroleo Yash amazing actually is really really powerful. And then what? So as always wanted of the last thing, the ego thing you with ego. Yeah. Like, what is what have you realized as it relates to that? And how are you? And what does processing mean to you? So this ego concept is so new office. They have known what ego was, but it's not just ego. Like, you know, I look at the social media space, I'm like, oh, my God. Let me have it national or a world crisis around ego. And so what I had to start doing was paying attention to my intentions, when I did everything literally everything. And I will tell you, I am you know that feeling where you're like, oh, this is a new concept. I have so much to earn. Yeah. That's how I feel right now. So I was mine toes anything in the ego sands and a rod or whatever, like I have like one toe in maybe. And I know there's so much more for me. It's awareness. So the first thing I have to do is just develop awareness, every single time I have thought that says I am doing this because of. Wanting to be seen. I hope someone sees me in this car. I hope that I want someone to know that I own a business or that I have this Instagram account or that I did this or that it's like every choice I make where is it coming from? And how do I bring it back to service? And so Billy is taught me service is such a big part of his life. And so for me it's, it's bringing it back checking my intentions with every single thing, I do, and reprogramming, total rewiring the way I live my life to be of service. It was the when I say that I think of the argument, we got in before the about, you mean posting about her relationship, Instagram. So this is what this is one of those intuitive. Thanks like you what you're asking before, is if I had this really weird gut feeling this one day it was odd it had been probably like, Billy was in was covered for about two months, then two and a half months, and I had been with him sort of that whole journey. We've been. We were seeing each other day. I was supporting him through that. I was keeping him off my social media. So a lot of people I assume probably a not thinking about us at all. But be as if no one thinking about it as much as we think they are. But be, you know, assuming that we weren't seeing each other whatever we just wanted to keep space. We weren't on social media with our relationship. I wanted to make sure that that was sacred. And but I had this weird feeling that it looked like from the outside, as I started sharing like Billy occasionally on mine, and him recovering. And he was he started like doing like being on social media, but I was I was like never heard of it. I was not shown I was not visible. I was and I've and I started my egos started saying people are gonna think that I just did like took this guy on the tour used him do the tour and, and ditched him at the end like that was where my ego went, and, and I brought it up because I'm so grateful that we can have those conversations I can say anything to him, and we can have that conversation where usually you want. It's only one of. Thinking that, but it's true, and I'm telling everyone here, but and we talked about it, and, and it was conversation and it's just not. That's not how he lives his life. And I told him I was like it was not about you posting something about me, it's like trying to navigate this, but that night was when I got the message from the girl that said that L basically this girl who would the story earlier. The woman that Billy had been with her friend respondents like one of my quotes of the day and said, you can't be it. The quote was like you can't g everything to everyone and nothing Pearsall or something. She wrote like him be everything to him when he tells the world, you're nothing with true. That's an interesting. You're like you. Well. That was just some more handle more on the story. More of the story. She was just being defensive of her friend who also got her through this process, and who's a wonderful person. And I just I responded in kind of eventually, she said, I want you to know something, but I don't want my friend doesn't want there to be drama around this. And listen, I'm not the kinda girl this to be like, the other the it's her fun like it's Billy's fault noodle and technically, we're not. We weren't together. So like where can I get mad? I'm just going to get mad. And I'm not gonna see I'm gonna totally throw under the rug. And not tell anyone that I was on a dating app at the time, like I did nothing wrong. And, and so anyway, it went into this, this, this situation, and my point in saying, this is the ego conversation came from that because the truth is like. It was I took it, personally, it had nothing to do with me. It had nothing to do with me. And it's like it personally. Yeah. So I'm paying attention. It's about right now. He's just about awareness anytime e steps center, I take action from ego. I thought from ego and it's way bigger than I can comprehend right now. So I'm just trying to grasp onto anything I can comprehend. I think it'd be realizing at the end of all this, all the drama that we went through all the ups and downs like there's a reason for attention. Why these are happening and to be honest to communicate like this is why this happened. This is why it's so how do we correct it in the future? And then, like, that's how life is going to be. It's constantly going to have this cycle of things happening, and then nothing's perfect. Life's life. How we react into it. Are we going to react together with it? Are we going to be transparent with it? Are we going to learn lessons of life, pendulum or just gonna keep feeling? It go back and forth. Oh my gosh. Yeah. But my with that is that doesn't seem ego to me, it seems like an intuitive hit the company energy shifted online and you were going to hear something. No number I was speaking to tuition and it, and I told him later, I said that conversation about posting sharing that I've been part of this recovery rate, that was my that was me trying to articulate a feeling. I was having I did it in a really bad way like that was just the way you described as me was very much. How come you to hug me till the world that I'm doing this alert it, yes? Very strange, but turn to could come saying. Yeah. I mean, it's been one of the most probably growth, bro, provoking conversations in our relationship to do is just be honest. Yeah. And here's the thing if you want to hook up with someone else like let's talk about it, maybe all want into like, maybe we can play around. This conversation long meeting right now. Big comeback Wednesday Martin. Okay. But remarka- says girlfriend Whitney had been talking about it. They speak pretty open about, so, but, but what they say about these open relationships is first of all, they're not like out there saying, everyone should do. But they say is you don't do it for the sex, you do it, because it challenges every bit of ego and personal, like feel like it just challenges all of that. And you and you grow and Secondly. Okay can get it. But we've kind of come, we've had so many conversations about it, which has been one. I think it's been so there's so much growth and we've kind of come round said. I don't think that's really what we want. But I'm really glad that we have been conversation because what it did is it gave each of us permission to if that comes up did know that we can say the speech other and not freak out, and it doesn't it's not this huge thing comes down to the honesty was the most attractive part of it. Can we be honest with each other? But you wanna be with somebody else, I know it's not because you don't love me right? Then that's it's purely physical point because there's only one person I'm connected to in life. And that's her everything else is just fiscal. We our connection. I think feels like it goes deeper than that. And that's what I keep sacred. And then but to be able to talk about these have conversations like do you like that do not like this, but his Donna see for me that was the most. For a lot of men, too. It's probably, especially with other women and females in being attracted to women. And, you know, potentially having relationship or poly-amorous relationship. It's probably so refreshing to be honest about that. You know, I know what Justin I like it's probably been the last year. Maybe two years where we've been, I've been able to be like, wow, she's like fine. He'd not. He doesn't say anything, but he's able to nod without fear. And agree. And we could be honest about, you know, being attracted to other women or, or whatever it is. And it's probably such a mask off and like such a breath of fresh air for a man. Absolutely. I mean, the most people in life, I think they stepped on relationships or look, if they do all these things because they can feel that they have the ability to express, high really film, really into this, or I really liked that, or you stuck in this, like a half to play this part. I can't like that. Everyone can look at me different. You're gonna think I'm weird for wanting it but one experience with you. But I'll explain was with her because she proves it. You don't like I've never talked to about the whole conversation. Brad whole happens women, the untrue. It's talks all about women. Sex drive's in this sort of basically everything that we've been told about. Sex, and our our like all of that stuff is Don not true. Exactly, like a more feminine sort of approach, and so, yeah, it's just really interesting because I think it oftentimes, it's women who wanted to and, and what happens is all that happens is we get shame and lies come up. And so if we could just create spaces in our relationships, whether it's monogamous, or in central non monogamy, or whatever it is just to have space to have honest, conversations, do know that I know that if I could tell Billy anything and it doesn't mean he might not have like be really angry upset right. When a here's Ed or something like that. But for the I, I really feel like I could tell you anything and. We could have a mind conversation, and it was like no Dern on. Oh my gosh. No hot. It's like when when you bring up things that might be detrimental to other relationships, but within your relationship, you can communicate like your understanding of them, deepens, and therefore, you're more attracted to them and Morton latest. It seems counterintuitive to a lot of people who haven't had these conversations that would destroy, like, he would think this me or whatever. But like to have those conversations I mean anytime guys really honest with me. I'm like. I'll tell you what we didn't talk for a while. And after the girl thing took about a couple of days off. And then we're like fuck, you know, we're gonna talk. Right. So we had a real honest conversation, she was mad. I was mad this, this the transparent a mud. It was the most raw competition ever. And I tell you the best sex ever, like. We went from being hate you. This is this dumb not dating to, like, oh my God work connected. Again. It was very raw. But that's honest. And there was no more barrier between us just like a magic, but I still want like broke up and she's like, we just had the past you've ever had because we were honest and, you know, you're not holding back and it's changed so much, we've all like we've always been quite honest. I think outside of his recovery in addiction. I think I don't think he's ever really given me any reason not to trust him ever. So it's hard to explain. It's sort of compartmentalized for me. Is he if he says, it's going to call it calls says it's going to show up shows up he does? He's he is so reliable. And you've been like that since day one with the diction because the shames attached you're like he's, he's hidden those things. Right. So we've always been like that. But these sorts of layers, these challenges that come into our life, like this, where it's so painful, like I was, I was modeling for old navy. And every time I went into my dressing, NBA change outfits, it was like during those five days weren't talking. I was like, I am going to our mauling all of this was going on. And I have. To go out there. And so, but it has been the most grow. It is just been one of those powerful like seasons or us and the truth is, we're not together right now. We don't have a title on us about to Asia for two or three months on my own. And we decided when we come back when I come back, we'll maybe try and figure something out put it's like let's slow motion we have to go motion. I just enjoyed being closer food for the road for first time like really closer now. There's nothing between us at all. No lies, no no secrets. There's just nothing and that is like I don't need a label. I have you like a regardless. No matter what happens if she chooses to be with somebody else, and that makes her happy genuinely and honestly I support that one hundred percent like I just wanna see her thrive. And the only way I can do that as if I make myself rive. And then hopefully we can decide to go together, but matter what happens like she's never not going to be my life on some level. So with that cares. What else happens everything else happens occurs? Beautiful. Yeah. Follow you where deal. So I'm at danika show on pretty much everything. So just my name and the my businesses model meals, which is bomb. Thanks guys. The meals they're not remodel that for human being. And who's your biggest fan Luke story? I love him. He's a dream rep so hard doesn't man. Ordering his model. Hold on. We are five minutes late because of me, and he's like, oh, God. I can't is, I'm so glad you guys are late. You could've been later. He's a north. It's so rude when people are in time. We were like five minutes. Forty five minutes. Billy. Great. Soon to be starting a new bachelorette party business. Okay. Can we just real quick? 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Episode 476 - A Bunch of Dads (2018) - 11/22/18

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Episode 476 - A Bunch of Dads (2018) - 11/22/18

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We have to original this only test co host on the show this an OG cast. Also, he original. Yeah. Came in episode five he came. Well, if you're called will, of course is on you wouldn't know it ends dub step. I listen to the episode that you did with Jeremy and can shore. And it's okay. I'm frankly insult I expected better view, norm. I like that you guys thought that you thought that was the theme the whole time the dubs scheme. It wasn't special for you know, I knew that that was special for you. But then the other thing that Jerry played this mad new madness. Yeah. Yeah. That's not the theme. That's the new thing. We like the same. That's a good thing. And we have Gary everywhere. Hi, welcome back. You you were on like two weeks ago on a few weeks ago. Yeah. With. Jeremy, you know, that was here to you. Both were here that was the week of the apple vent. And I listened that podcast in the hospital and good use of your time. Well, we're labor Las long time. And. Hey, Honey was your area. When we listen to this. Listen to that podcast and listening to you guys talk about the apple new. So bad. You guys were googling different about the MAC books and. I think I mentioned at one point this is the least informed well podcast. I've ever even heard loan bean on you might have really saying something recorded. I think the day after the event so people are still jesting the news and to be fair. The event was a little confusing. Is there was there was some some things that are confusing. There were some there were a lot of weird product now sements from. That was cheaper than the Matt book. Yeah. And we're that lines up how they're different expensive for one of seemed, right? So. I think it was a sign of good podcast. That was my point. Because all I wanna do listening to it was engaged. I wanted to chime in your screaming at the radio screaming after correctly replicated, the confusion that consumers a feeling right? All right. Here's the interesting thing about this year's apple. And this is I think the first time in probably a decade since the iphone three three g came out that I didn't give apple any money this year. Like I haven't bought any apple harbor that didn't by phone probably not gonna buy an ipad, maybe next year. But not right now. No, new laptop no watch. No air pods last year. I'm good. They're like they're getting none of my money this year. I was on that same train until I bought the new ipad. Pro I've had pros. And that was maybe a moment of weakness because I was in the hospital, and I was looking at the fancy new stuff. And again, there's there's a lot of nothing do where you got that. And then kind of delivered to the hospital. No, I I went home to pick it up. I need to get some fresh air. Labor's it was right off. Right. After the baby was born. And maybe it was moaning weakness. But there was nice, and shiny, and my parents both got I've had pros. Well, my mom's on actually shoes, you know, her ipad. She's on. She's on the first retina one had three. That's what Gina has an unusable useable. So that would actually be a good upgrade upgrade. But that the pro isn't for normal people know, the pro I mean, they have. It's a pro. She's probably listening. She's a professional all computing, computer user, perfect for the screen. The screens. Nice really nice. The same gamut and stuff as the I ten right? Yes. It is. And it has a true tone and has won twenty hurts. Smooth scrolling. I think that really really, and you know, the the way that might use computers, ipads, leave like all the tabs open the open safari on the on the computers, tablets, and it's every tablet ever opened is there. And so the medium memory management is better close all tabs trick. I just found this out the other day, and it's fucking magic. If you press in. If you press in hold the tab button. Yes, affari then it says close this tab close all twenty three tabs new. That's it. That's I. On tablets mobile devices uses the versus on desktop tabs done differently because on your mobile device. The taps aren't actually using memory in real time. It's just cash it's like a bookmark. Yeah. People use them like bookmarks on your desktop chrome. If you have thirty tabs open. That's why Chroma sucks then your computers running a crawl do better with that. Now, they unload stuff that's on close tabs and has an unusual. But it's still each one is a process which was a that was a selling point when they launch chrome. They're look if one tab crashes talking to crush your whole browser there's going to be great thirty two gigs of memory later. Yeah. I must be on the podcast guys. I'm talking and talking without a podcast, if you'd have a podcast, you're nobody these days, so it works. Yeah. It was it was a glimpse on the other side. How both of you guys. Stop doing this podcast. Great. I was fine. I didn't have to start. I stop reading tech news. It was terrific. Kind of funny gig now. So yes me that keeps me into public fear. You want to talk about all informed podcasts. You should listen to great on kind of funny sometimes 'cause I didn't know anything. I have no idea what I'm talking about. And you're not even kind of funny. You're like moderately funny. Even kinda and I don't study or learn about anything that's happening in the news. They must go co present the news show. Yeah. Like set you up when you when you go in for the teleprompter give you a hand here. You're here. You're ten topics talk about this week and an intern type three second briefs or three cents per I show up giving a piece of paper that has the day's news on it. Right. And then five minutes later, I'm sitting down reading the news critical zingers hits like LeBron Mott's you can drop in there to come up with all those right that your cell phone. That's twice a lawn. Twins. They have a really neat screen behind their. They have very nice. It has. Getting combined behind mom waters. And they still have quite a love that. Hey, will you talk about when Gary Gary remember your first time being a regular on this podcast was with an apple product. He was with the iphone four four. Yeah. It was the iphone four because you got it was when apple actually shipped them out early. Yes. Talking about like. That was the former cover cast the first thing I've had I've had was the first thing we had life would have been in that fall. I had was the first thing we had, but Gary you did get the iphone four early. And we had you come in. Because you're the only one we knew who had the iphone wearing overcast a retina display and then came during the show, I barely remember this. Well, of course, you have a kid. Percent of your to lose memory points dated by day over the eight years of podcast. All three of us have children. Yeah. And that's barely because our top story this week is congratulations, dad. Oh, I thought it was gonna be thanksgiving. Oh, well, happy thanksgiving. Happy thanksgiving. This. On on thanksgiving days should begin on thanksgiving and back when American thanksgiving. Yes. Canadian thanks sometime else. Some of the Jews maybe some ridiculous feel like September October. I remember telling you happy thanksgiving maybe three weeks ago month ago. I dunno Gary you had your kid. I. Yes. It's true. Six months before. I was the first one. Yeah group. I gotta go back and listen to podcasts because I'm really curious. He was already showing up for this podcast by then when when you're just go back to July two thousand twelve and then about January, February twenty thirteen January twenty thirteen. Yeah. Was when you had your kids. Yeah. Or your wife had your kid? Had a I mean, if you're looking for pointers or advice, my vices don't do that. Anything of value from either of us. I'm still speak. Really funny of the dad cast. I get a lot of emails a bunch of will you bring a bunch of dad's back. I want the this. Let's let's bring them back. Right now. Here's what I've been thinking about bunch of dad's. Yeah, I think we should bring them back as acuity show to people because the panel was too many people to get together like getting four five busy people together way too hard. And I think you talked about it as having one person they're potentially not being a dad or impending dad and scaring them with all the it's neither of new dad. You won't have a new you'd have a medium you to have an old. Okay. Yeah. What we've got. Yeah. We're both the same essentially mediums or feel so old though. I mean, you look it's been does you're gonna you wouldn't you know into into dad stroke presidential years. Yeah. Like six years. I think you perfectly set up for the grey headed come in here. Harian white in the chin of gear gets plucking. Yeah. Just going to be it's going to become unplug. -able? No, don't tell me. You won't be able to pluck big bald spots are going to be. But the five years since five and six years since you guys had your kids. Yeah. I don't think I fully appreciated. No fucks you up, man. What it was like 'cause I would hear your stories. Yeah. Think intellectually will extra tired this morning or will wills forgetting ten fifteen percent of his brain is really stupid. All of a sudden now is this happens with age didn't get it until and I've had it for two weeks. Now, this is and particularly the exiled in distress in the exhaustion that comes with it is like the matrix. No, one can be told what it is. You have to see it for yourself. Brennan frazier. Learn baseball in Boston the past. So there was a moment when our kid was maybe three months old when Gina looked at me. And she's like we're never going to catch up on sleep. Again, are we 'cause like when you're when you're when you don't have a kid, you think oh, man, I totally work without sleep for a long time. I can work I can sleep. I'm gonna stay up and play red dead too until three o'clock in the morning. I'm gonna get up on a roll into work. I'm going to be a zombie all day and go to bed at six o'clock tomorrow night, and I'll be good. You can do that. When you're young. You could never do that. When you have a kid because the kid gets whatever the fucking kid gets up. This is the thing that I was not prepared. No, I told you I was I could do the first like three nights. No problem like two or three hours of sleep. And it just felt like a late then you leave the hospital. And then there was moment. I think over maybe this past weekend when I look at the other. And it's like, yeah. We've got this. We got this. But then you realize you don't get catch up day. Well, I mean you can. But some of the other one is going to take the hit for it like you have to trade off and she's bone because she's responsible for food right now. It's she can't sleep. So it's much worse for your wife because slow burn. Ads on builds up and builds up, and do you remember the first trip we took after my daughter was born when we got to Houston with Dave Chang, and trade you've done. Yep. And we got there and you enjoy like, hey, let's go out. And we're going to go out and get some beers. I was like guys later I'm going to sleep at five o'clock in the number that which was really two o'clock our time, I'm really looking forward to going on Trump. Yeah. You need to find. It took a trip fast, man. Don't don't listen. If you're listening to this. I'm so sorry. So it's hard. Give a little bit of a primer on our birth story. I guess that's what people call it. Right. What happened? Yeah. It's the thing to hear about. Well, it's what I lifted. This is. Thing. But yeah, so audience wants to hear this. No, no, some did you build a scoop to catch? No. Well, the baby was due October thirty first Halloween. We really wanted a Halloween baby. Yeah. And so be cool because down the road when you go out trick or treating the both exactly. And actually, my housemate. His birthday is on Halloween. We had first hand experience. And he's enjoyed it. Okay. We know some people who they say, it sucks share birth the other people, but then you're forced address up for your birthday, and we really liked the idea. And if you're watching that Sabrina show athletes. Athletes birthdays on Halloween girl from max, madman madman. It is Mad Max from. Edmund sally. Draper, draper. Yeah. She's awesome. And and so we were all planning for a Halloween birthday. That was our forty weeks. I started taking time off about like half a week before that there's a bold choice, by the way. Well, I want to be prepared. Yeah. You have known. I mean, I know that you had a pretty good. Expectations. It was going to be on that day. But at the same time, it's very read the baby comes on the actual days expected. Percent five babies arrive on their day, and they can track track the size of the belly. They track all sorts of medical things at the obese do and our baby was actually tracking early. So we were freaked out like a week and half before we were like. No, October hold hold it till the whole the till Halloween. And so we were doing things to try to be active. See a ton of movies. Maxed out our our AMC MC pass, which so many movies that we leading up to Halloween and then as we crept closer Halloween. Nothing's happening. There were no signs of labor. No, no, water breaking. And we had a doctor's appointment Monday before Halloween while he was on a Wednesday. And the doctor told us you're not gonna get Halloween. And so can we discussed could we do that Apollo thirteen moment like the doctor's like well, norm? Danika we have a problem. They they lost. We've lost the thing on the on the stuff on the table and say, how do you baby through here this shape? So we had the resign ourselves. The fact that you know, we would probably the wait for after hauling and that week waiting from forty weeks forty one weeks was was probably the toughest part because the uncertainty of like baby could come any minute on Denic. Horrifically uncomfortable so uncomfortable. I can't even imagine what it's like to have the extra the way in front of you balance being stressed out. And we're ever go to bed, and like worry that we'd have to wake up to 'em and water break or something where the hospital because we she makes garbage bag or anything. No, no. Okay. Nice. But we're worried that it would be we'd be caught off guard. Yeah. Sensually we were on edge for a whole week. It's edging. And it's pretty extreme. It got to the next week. We had another doctor appointment and at that point. It was November fourth and we're like, no, we don't we want this baby. Now, we don't wanna wait in longer. So we we induced and the baby came out November sixth. Which is thirty our labor. Yes. When you induce this. They they give you medication oral medication. And then something through an issue that just which is just the the the hormone that. It's the brand name for oxytocin and your body's naturally generate oxytocin with hugs and stuff. So didn't hug your wife enough is what we were saying when we thought the baby was coming out early. I'll can't hug we get. No oxytocin. I don't know where else would come early. So the the give you Potosi they give you some other all medication, and that's supposed to induce labor ads like twelve hours, so the whole process, and so even if we had induced on October thirtieth it could have been November first baby like, there's no guaranteed, and sometimes even worse, the go home, and and wait it out because the baby's ready. After the after the fact when the baby is born is you don't really care. What day it was just happy to have the bo-? Yeah. Fingers and ten toes, man. Yeah. And so the whole process got the medication was it was in the hospital for over a day. And we ended up having a C section and that happened because I think I was texting with you guys keeping you guys up date with what was going on. And that happened fairy quickly. It went from you know, Labor's start. And now the the pushing will begin to doctor saying we should have a C section. And then I you guys see sections happening. Fifteen minutes later was born and that was insane. Well, once the actually get into the business of doing C-section, there's no messing around in high gear and the taking operating room put on the scrubs. You're not supposed to touch anything. Anesthesiologists Evelyn damn freaking out, of course. And there's a bunch of people. In their bunch of people, nurses in there and becomes out baby gets handed over to like team of three, nurses, and they. A pit crew this I had video I have the video of the nurses, basically flipping the baby around the super. Hear the cry cry cry was the best I've ever heard because the cry longer than I felt like it should take and we were natural Abadula birth. Right. But it was it was like, it was probably thirty seconds. Yeah. But it was the longest thirty seconds of my life. Right. What were you guys thinking? When you first saw your your baby will really curious. So so for me, honestly, I was thinking we were induced because gene ahead blood pressure issues, and they were worried about it. So they induced her and we went to Saint time you'd have done o'clock the night before she was born. And they started the oral medicine they started the petition drip about two o'clock in the morning. And then the baby was there ten o'clock and all I was thinking holy shit. There's only one nurse and the doctor in here because that's that's the doctor barely made. It we yell. He hauled across down to get there and dime, and he came in and looked was like, oh, I gotta put my clothes on and he just pulled a gun on right over top of what he was wearing and jumped right in and the. Whole time. I was thinking it was us and Roxanne the delivery nurse who like she scooped up the doctor handed me the baby headed the baby Gina and then like ten seconds later. She grabbed the baby I cut the cord. They went over to the scrub in the weighing and all I mean, it was more than ten seconds seem really fast. All I was thinking was holy. I can't believe people in here that are that know what they're doing. That's the whole system in Gary, Hoppy? How did I feel the moment? You saw your baby for really longtime fifty two I always has tight to say we because I mean, I was there as well. But Leah did ninety nine point nine percent of the of the work. Fifty two hours of labor and then a c section serves rough. And you know, the the epidurals didn't take so Lia was in a lot of discomfort use that to very mildly for a lot of it. And it was rough like the babies the baby's head was like so close to two coming out. And it just we had a similar situation to you that every time it was close the baby's right would drop that. And they would say, oh, we don't like that. Either. I actually learned to cut a read the heart rate monitor. I could tell when it was normal. And when something was was not quite right and. And for a long time. I was very nervous about that. And then they around midnight or rent 'em on. I guess what would have been now the third dykes fifty two hours in they said, well, we can try a couple of things you could try we could try forceps delivery. They literally grab the baby's head with a with a Clarence hongs. Yeah. Janki out, but we don't like to do that. Troy can go for a scheduled like a c section now, and you can go in and and dad can be in there as well. All you can try pushing again. But if you push again, it doesn't go great. We have to rush you intra section and then Dad Khan come in. So we decided that we would just do the C-section wasn't. You know, wasn't anyone's first choice three hours. I mean, some people do decide to have C-section schedule it, but that wasn't what we had planned to me, we were hung birth. We we plan to be a homeboy and ended up in the most surgical from the least hospital type situation to the most hospital clubs from one to the other. And to you question is funny. Because when we'll said he cut the cord, my I was did I I think I did. Yeah. Okay. If I said, I did that. I did it's truly chewy the point the point being that I my memory of is very hazy because you know, what I am knowledge is it to there's a great book called into thin air written by Joan crack, our about people climb Everest. And it was about people that died climbing Everest, and he actually did get to the summit and climbed it and people say to you know, what he says he climbed Everest. It must be so amazing like the feeling of standing top. Everest must be like the most amazing feeling of triumph into wood. And he's like, no, it's really not because you're so exhausted and you walk surgeon deprived because there's no oxygen there. And you also have to worry about getting back down a lot of people on the way back down that you that you can only you're only there for a few moments. You don't have long to go her Ray. We did it. Exhausted any way that you don't really get you just like. You don't get up there and crack a cold one. Was just so anxious personal memoria for fifty two hours fifty two hours. No sleep everyone's exhausted. When the baby finally came out, I remember it was really just a feeling of relief more than anything the babies out. You know, thank God. Because it was did not want to come out. Operating room and how he like all remember in the operating room from before the baby came out was peeking over the curtain. I didn't wanna look at the the incision. But all remember seeing a big trays of knives. Essentially, scissors big trays of fill dozens of those. I'm like, this is serious. I remember them telling when you go into the room, you know, because you have to scrub up just like a real doctor, and they put the the the what do they call? It happened down the cap and gown on you graduate, the scrubs the scrubs on you and the and they say once you're in there. Just don't touch anything that's blue because anything that's blue has been sterilized, and you touch it. And you go in there and everything's blue and they yelled out immediately forgot it immediately. Because where am I supposed to be where am I supposed to be in when we were preparing for the natural birth? Well, I brought my Solaar bought like three D camera three sixty cameras had the room all wants out of three sixty camera. And then. Once the C-section decision was having all your plants. With the mercy, let the let the nurses tell me exactly what it'd be where to stand and thinking, this is my phone in my pocket underneath the scrubs. So I could take some pictures of the baby and video as the baby was coming out. 'cause I can't even imagine from like danika s- perspective. She can't see a thing because there's a Shiels doped up up just like in pain freaking out, and she she would have to sit up and lean. Muscle. Cut open. Hi, says like like like a magician assistant being cut Nath except for like, right? And I can't even imagine all your plans, go out the window. And you're trusting the doctors also found out is that like the doctors and the nurses in the hospital. They don't always agree with each other and the nurses have their own way of doing things and the doctors they throw constant shaded each other like when we were waiting into labor, and I was looking at the heartbeat monitor. That thing's amazing. We saved the papers to lines one for the contractions and one for the baby's heart rate, and is like the only tangible thing you have of that experience. Right. Like, your baby could feel the you kill you. The labor papers kind of cool, but the baby goes from this like Bolger the uterus valley to kicks it's kind of still like distance thing. But you have when you see the heartbe you have this real. Timeline of labor of what it's like. Will you guys about that ultrasound thing? Let's you hear the heartbeat. We one of those home ultrasound. And we borrowed it for a little bit toward the end there. And it was like it was one of the things that like at the end of the day. You put it on. You're listening to the sounds good. It's still it's the trickiest thing for me. Even now almost two weeks later looking at the baby looking at him when saying two weeks ago, he was on the other side of this this person, he was inside her alien, and he was as almost fully developed and could hear many things he's hearing out for the last month and a half and been okay. I remember I got in trouble for peaking over that cut in too many times the trust me to sit down because I was so fast. I remember being on the one hand because I don't like viscera and gore and stuff like that. I'm quite squeamish. I've a low tolerance for that. But something about it being my wife. And my baby. A switch that flips. And you just kind of get on with it. You just deal with it. I was I was like up close to all the blood and guts, and gore and was. To Hobbs of me. There was the half of me that was anxious and worried and Novus and empathizing with Leo and everything she was going through and moat, but mostly just anxious and nervous, and I really really hope this works out. Okay. The babies out in health that you just you know us. But then there was another part of me that was just kind of intellectually fascinated by it all. And that kind of the two pots bifurcated, and I remember thinking. This is amazing like that. We can do these things like just for these doctors, nurses, doing several of these a day this this is completely routine. But for years once in a lifetime experience that was the other thing that tough to reconcile because after spending four days of the hospital, you have a rotation of nurses, and for you. It's the most important moment for me most of our lives, right? And everything says, we're like we're hang on by threatened ever paid attention. Exactly. Yeah. And the day were checked out. They'd even say goodbye. It's. Five eight five new babies every day more. Another another satisfied customer number seven one six three. The thing that so if you're about to have a kid, and you're listening to this fast forward to minutes 'cause I'm gonna fight you. Fai you there were two things that I realized when we were driving like to the to the to the deuce birth. I told you this the other day, but I as I was driving my wife sitting next me everything's fine like pressure slope. But it wasn't dangerous up just enough that they didn't want to keep the baby anymore. I was thinking, oh, this is one of the as a as a modern human. That's not faced with the threat of predators, or or anything like this is what of you when you say predators. Do you mean like animals, I thought you meant like the predator? Also the predator. I mean that would be if we had predators. Chase played the if Danny Glover's LA and the predators hanging out and this has been hot lately with these five is true. Okay. So predator aside, we aren't faced with the threat of death on a daily basis. I mean, we are in an effort when you get into car when you cross the street every time you cross the street. Yeah. But but but that's. That's not something that's scheduled a higher than normal. I guess the point is it's not often you get in the car and drive to something that might kill you good at getting the car and driving might kill you. But like going and having a kid is a dangerous thing like Tivoli causing danger. And and and that was at the other thing that somebody told me that was really helpful one of one of our friends who is a dad said, look, I 'cause I asked him a question about the birth plan. And he was like, look here's the deal with the birth plan. This is all shit you do to make you feel better going into it. Make you feel like you have some control over situation where you have absolutely no control. And the moment you're in the room, and the doctor nurse says, okay, we need to do this because the baby or your wife's health is in is in jeopardy. You're going to say yes, fuck the birth plan. Here's what we're going to do. And that's the right thing to do every single time. Not on fifty two. I remember the one thing. I do remember that fifty to our conversation. A little the doctors we're kind of in the room with us. And we tried every pushing scenario that we that we could try and nothing worked and. Remember the tone in the room being not not grave, but very serious. They weren't kidding around anymore. They will let you have a decision to make. And you know, the baby the baby was gonna come out one way or another. But you know, we go to figure this out. And like it wasn't. It wasn't fun or joyous at that point. It was just like please let this baby come out alive and my wife stay alive as well. Everybody needs to live, please. That's you know, after fifty two hours and still not going, right? Well, you're. If you're an actress warrior like me, I I was worried I remember Liam wanted to have a home birth. Remember this and she and we watched this movie called the business of being born about how hospital is a racket. It's a scam. And how there's a growing movement towards home birth because it's more natural, and blah, blah, blah. You still feel this way? No, I never I was always skeptical about it. Yeah. I mean, they have they have some compelling numbers about the number. They want you to have a C section because there's more profit, and blah, blah, it sounded very cynical to me, not the the racket Paul. But the point of view of the of the documentarian seemed to be that they convinced that it was a racket and it was a scam. And they show you all these wonderful videos of. Perfect home bus because they don't show you the one that goes wrong. Look in the morning, they show you the ones that are perfect and lovely and soft focus and stuff, and we had a douleur in amid wife and all this kind of stuff. And I remember saying what what's the percentage of of home births that have to end up transferring to the hospital, and then end up being a C section, and will, oh, it's very very ram. Congratulations, very rare. You don't have to worry about that. Don't worry. And of course, it's exactly what happened to ask. And I don't feel like the doctor definitely I totally understand where that documentary coming from terms of doctors maybe pushing toward see sections. I don't think it's for the money. It's for like the success rate. They know that there's section is basically going to work. It's gonna literally cutting a hole in the belly just yank the baby variables are limited. Yeah. If there's any kind of complication there's cords in a weird spot or the babies upside down, or whatever whatever the problem, you can't diagnose yourself from the outside the C-section. Let's see what the. A problem isn't fixed. And every key. You have doesn't work. You can always just blow a hole in the door. That's going to work. Yeah. But, but I mean, the the thing for me for us because we had that conversation with you guys because we were like, my my wife, we were six months behind Joe. So we were we were starting as you. We were a little bit ahead as early access period was very helpful. But but we don't talk about that kind of stuff. And like there is a compelling to not be in the sterile terrifying. Hospital environment. But on the other hand, you're like, okay, the risk assessment here is that this is a safer. See I sterile to me is not a bad thing. It means things clean. Oh, being no one. No one likes being in a hospital because it generally means something's going wrong in your life. Let someone you someone that you know, is sick or injured. Yeah. Right. So that's not good. They're like, you even have even have that thing like the smell of hospitals as soon as you you associated with a bad feeling because something's not right in your life. Something bad has happened, except when you having a baby that's the that's the one good reason you can go to a hospital. And so I felt like I felt more comfortable. I was really really nervous the whole time that the home both of the of the of the process was happening. Once we got to the hospital though ended. Up then being really still a really long time. When I was very nervous. I felt better. Because at least I knew the this is the best place to be surrounded by doctors and experts people do this all the time. I mean, it's it's like if you're having if you're having a panic attack, and you think you're having a stroke or something you go to the hospital soon as you're sitting in the waiting room at the emergency room, we feel better because at least if you're going to have the stroke. This is the place that you wanna do it in the waiting room at the emergency room laws. But I've literally is I'm such a warrior. I've literally had that we're what I'm lucky at the hospital for no good reason for no particular reason, I might be visiting someone. I remember thinking like if I'm gonna have a heart attack must we'll have. I mean, the best place they can they can get. Preregister and have all your info on the forms. So okay. So the baby's born you guys the other big difference. The other thing going for us in the hospital birth the birth the place of the norm. Norman I had the kid. They give you a steak on the night before you, check steak dinner. Get can stay went to the public. Went to the steak dinner. Now, very one of my friends, some shade on this and said, it was not a good steak, and I didn't expect a hospital states would be great not it's not like a prime rib. It's not it's not your it's better airplane, food and better than all the other food. We had there. They put some real effort into it. And at the end. Dame's stike delightful fell special treatment, the most expensive steak dinner you've ever had. Well. That free Jack and coke the blackjack table is actually the most Jack and coke watered down. Show. Long story short for thanksgiving, very thankful that. Everyone's oh, yes. Have to be thanking. Yeah. That danika and the baby or healthy and thankful for you guys for all your support that you and your families have been hadn't given us in guiding us than tire way. How you feeling like now today? Oh, you feeling sleep deprived or you feel areas? Maybe that's a conversation for another time because we can do a whole other podcasts poop because I've seen things. I've. Stories of poops placentas and stuff like that. But again, you just get on with it. Don't you do you just have to do it because no one else including who's going to do it in the morning? Yep. Only person that's going to do it as you saw on the baby. And that baby poop that Makoni umn that is some gross shit pass Makoni. I mean, it's like it's like chocolate flavored Gumy's, it's it was just like I took a picture. We're at the phase now where it's like, you have a giant VAT of French's muster. That hasn't been used in three weeks old watery part goes hop Cam push it so settled. Yeah. And then someone's hit that the Spencer real I've seen the poop. Come right out of the? But while looking at the, but yeah, don't shake it. Oh, I didn't get that. Quite good as well. That you went to the wrong hospital. We went to UCS penny office the one of the best children's trae. They give you a steak. No. Yeah. You got fucked. You. You know, what I'm gonna do six years later. I'm gonna go to the store today. I'm going to buy a stake. I'm going to have that fucking state. There you go. It's not gonna be the same. You didn't earn? It. The hard way. I did. I did just getting the benefit and to sixty. There's a picture I've been waiting to show norm show this when it might be too much. Okay. Never mind. What was that show? I was gonna show the placenta picture, but it's a little revealing. I told you this six years ago. Showed you picture of and you through. See the placenta. No. I did not see the placenta. Why not we didn't keep any of it? The only thing that we kept was the bell cord the six out of the baby's belly button. Yeah. And not just fell off. So we have that in a little vial. Yeah. So that's reliquary. Yeah. Exactly. Dr come over after the baby had been cleaned up and everything and cut the cold. And then they rushed the baby off to the nursery Lee gets to see it briefly. But then you know, it goes off, and then the doctors called me over to the table where the baby had been and said you should come over here. And look at this. What's that? Look, it's really interesting. This is what happens when you pique over the curtain to knows that. You're come look. And it was the placenta the placenta was bifurcated. It was basically to you could see how there would there had been placentas at one point. But they were kind of fused into one on what set all about. And they said, well, we think that one point that might have been twins. But one didn't make it all. Or eaten by the other ones? Here is who knows. I don't know if the davita schwarzen- have some real hill house stuff. Yeah. Wow. Okay. And we think that we think that what you see here is the leftover of what might have been the second placenta. So that was pictures of that as well. Pretty good. I showed it to try and freaky. I did. Not wanna see the sensitive selective entirely. You've been you've been doing good you've been okay? I mean up to the toss every day is different. And I think we'll revisit this topic. 'cause it's only two weeks. How how many times are you up in the night to two times a night hours four thousand six hours? How many times how many times you have to get up in the night two times about an hour each time? Okay. That's not so bad. That's not so bad. How did the first bath go at home Gina, and I had the biggest fight of our marriage during the first bath. I mean, very gently my advice as your attorney is in this goes for you at home too is when you're going to do something like a first bath converse about the strategy for that before you just jump into it like have a game plan that everybody agrees on. 'cause I jumped into the first bath in the same way that the nurse did. Right. After our daughter was born lots of scrub fast, get her get her in get her out January. It's cold, drafty oust. I was trying to get in and out as we could. And that was not that we had a really core disagreement about the speed and and intensity, which we should we should handle the bath. The be the baby's atomic Sherie. Now, there's there's only four states of being right? There's sleeping there's. There's eating. Sleeping, hungry, pooping or casts. Yeah. And those are the four signs and so right now, it's just deciphering. Are you tired retire swallow? Your sleep are you hungry gas and a different cries you? Can you can differentiate we've learned that the feeder moving it's gas A hands are moving a lot arms are moving hungry. Your baby does a good rooting face to those. We're figuring out right now a lot of baby talk, and I'm sure they'll be more of it. But one of the things I did in that week leading up to baby being born while waiting played a fuck ton of read-end thing. Everybody should do right before the baby's all my God. If you want to do something really boring gonna prepare you for days and days of not sleeping read that will get you sleepy. And ready. I haven't been we'll talk to anyone about redemption to I hear you both been playing it a little bit. Let's talk about red dead. Okay. That's one opinion. I love this game. Okay. Why do you love the game? Well, one I love I went to the game loving the Westworld TV show. Okay. Is that your first entree to westerns, really? Or did you earned? I've seen seen him. But like anything play the first. That's probably best. It like is. It was a good game at the time. It has not age. Well, and I went to the game knowing that I wanted something like a Westworld experience where you were put into this kind of open world western and you could engage and pick up a very adventure game. But very RPG light in terms of like meeting people and going into a couple of bars. And I'm getting that more are you role playing like your guy who went to us world to go on vacation. No because that would be killing everyone. And you can't you can't you don't have that amount of freedom. You can kill everyone. You can be hard work. Yeah. Yeah. The game is massive. And I just not a space landscape, which is gorgeous playing on the Xbox One. X four K with HD arts was beautiful games. I've ever seen and I know people complain about how slow this really like how slowed is mind. The speed the number one tip. I got from reading a review was turning off the mini map. And I just use the compass, and listen the people tell me and trying to remember where when I wanna have the mini map on the bottom left him corner. It's almost GPS, and I'm looking I'm looking that more than I'm looking at the landscape. Well, even if you have them any always hit down or up on the. And the compass actually has your path and has tells you what direction you're supposed move into your minimal option, or is very minimal the one that I do and so walk in and it's taking listening. What people are saying reading the road signs and take my time getting I actually want the world be bigger. I want to take longer because it still feels like a rock star game where everything's low compressed because it's the game world. So when you're traveling from the furthest west west city to the first east easternmost city, it's only fifteen minutes of horseback riding when you're supposed to be traveling across United States that point. I can't get enough. So I there's there've been moments that I feel like I'm playing a movie, but also I'm watching a movie, but also have agency is the main character which are magic like really, really good. There's a there's a scene where you get dry. You have to go to town and get really loaded and stuff happens. And like, those some of those missions are amazing some of the Royal missions are really good where you go out, and you go somebody goes on teaches you how to fish short. How to hunt or whatever. And honestly that whole opening sequence in the snow the hateful eight that is is standing it's really really neat for me. It's the parts where the game gets real rock story where like I had to make a bunch of changes to the controls to make the shooting work to make the steering and shooting stuff work really found out turn off celebration on the sticks. That helps a ton floaty so easy, but I'm talking about stuff like steering your horse. Yeah. I've run into trees a lot. Like, I've I killed a horse by running into a tree that was in great. I ran I jumped off I was bending over to going to pick something up that was on the edge of a cliff, and I just ran off the cliff like I feel like that happens once or twice it's maybe on me. But when it's consistently happening, and I'm not touching anything that seems like kind of bad design. I, and then the thing that makes me crazy is the narrow chutes on some of the story missions where like if you get ten feet off the trail to the right or the left, and it just fails you out and have to start the whole damn thing over again. This is bad. Yeah. Gorgeous gets you far behind someone or like their main story missions there is this big store that takes longtime just rush the story. You could do it in twenty thirty hours. Yeah. I'm finding myself joining the stranger encounters there are over one hundred random encounters that can happen. And these like the guy under the horse or something like that. Donald side of the road. Someone yelling at you. And I love though, that's the stuff that feels the most Westworld about it when I'm watching. Long country and side quests pop up you hear someone young distance where you see stranger exactly or plu smoke. A then distance such thing the plume of smoke, and you need you've had on a camp of bandits or house of an every one of those counters is designed to have a full story, and you can you can approach them. However you want and they're inconsequential because was strange. I mean, the thing that they did that's really need is they made a game that feels like a pathetic game pathetic RPG like your fallout. Remember, whatever without having the massive. Of game state, like Bethesda games, the reason because games are often buggies that they have essentially infinite game state, right? Like if somebody wants to they can go collect one of the three hundred thousand wheels of cheese and sky, REM and pile them all up in one building. And the game has to know how to deal with that. That's really hard to do. And in that sense. This is more like Westworld because I can go into town. I can kill everyone in this room. But if I come back half hourly repopulated because the loops will just recycle. I mean, that's one of the things. Like, one of the first things I did was shoot one of the shopkeepers in the head just to see what would happen, then I made the bounty. And when I came back to town the next time he was there, but he had ipad and abandon overs. I where I where popped him. And that's that's magic. That's amazing things. One bit of not even really spoilt one thing that the first town you go to there's a. Time in Valentine day. There's a shopkeeper I think it's the doctor, but there's one shop if you walk around because you're trying to buildings you can enter and one of the things always frustrated me about GTE is that when you have city like New York City looks crate, but everything's facades. Are you condemn anything? Now, there are plenty of billions you can't enter in red yet. But because it's the wild west because it's open world because fewer buildings are many buildings that have interiors that you can enter and you can actually see through windows peek inside so one of the buildings in the main town the first town, you go look in the back of the window, and there's a guy counting money and locked door. And you realize the shopkeepers running some Lissette operation the back, and then because you spot of that you can go in the front, and you can hold them up and open backdoor, you can rob them in the back so uncovered things like that. You pull back the veil between and people have these back stories that you can you can uncover. Yeah, they've done an amazing amount of well building. And I would say, you know. As an exercise will building it's a tremendous achievement. I don't know if it's an I'm not gonna say if it's a good game or bad game. Because that's gonna very subject from my point of view. I have struggled to enjoy the game of struggle to enjoy as a game the sluggish pace of it. And that's a deliberate choice that they made. They don't wanna they don't wanna make an assassin's creed game where you're running around, and you can scale buildings you can do whatever you wear superpowers. You basically have superpowers or even GTI where there's a lot of running around and craziness this is there's a lot of kind of even the sprint is relatively slow. When you in the camp, slow down, even more. And there is it feels like you're moving through molasses a lot of the time and movement is slow and everything in the game. I think it was. The click or someone vice way point who said the the best word to describe the game as friction there's a lot of free games constantly pushing back and giving you a lot of friction anything you want to do that you need to do is hard. Even even somebody like this fos, traveling the game, you even go to earn that let you go to go to the train station and buy ticket. It's not just I'm gonna press extra FOSS travel. So everything it makes you work for everything. And I think if you're willing to meet the game on its own terms and play it that way, you can find real satisfaction. Because it really does feel it west vote. It really does for you'll living in that world. I didn't encounter a couple of nights ago where I saw a campfire I was just Mosey and down the trail one one evening on my horse. And there was a little campfire off in the distance. I'll go see what that lights all about. You know, maybe for me to do over there. Sometimes you go up to camps, and they just tell you to fuck off. Yeah. Let's just get out of here. This is camp. And there's nothing for me to do here. And you just you could kill him. I suppose kill them rob him. But I just decided to leave. Malone. And then there was one. There was a guy sitting there, and he's he's drunk. He's just sit next to be stranger. All tell your story. And you sit down extra many tells us. You have a choice to give me give me some whiskey, and I'll tell you about my troubles. And you have a choice to give him to wisco- gave a bunch of whiskey. So I gave him some some of my bourbon, and he goes on to the whole story about how he used to do this for the government like clearing Indian Cam Indian reservations about how then government boys, they pay well, but the money runs out, but the regrets remain this kind of stuff, and it's sad story. He tells you and then he passes out. So rubbed him alluded to lose your money back. He fell asleep. He just collapsed over and he's chase. So I took his money and left, and that was that was just something that was just like an incidental moment that happened in the game. When the game is doing that. So thing it feels really really good. Those are the best moment like foreign those are the joy joy, those moments better than the actual mission saying those random stranger encounters, those random counters, those are the things I remember the most and your character a has a journal and all those encounters. Yeah, they all go. And the order in which you do them. So really the game. He writes down in that journal. It's your experience is right in his penny. Penny penny book. Yeah. And he he draws crimes if he ever gets caught unfortunate. Sketches to cause a little bit of an artist. Yeah, he draws. Sometimes I found myself just going through the journal and reliving what I've done in the game. Because everything's I've done that really feel like they were years every few encounters. Every few encounters. I review the via the journal and it's like memories and the deliberateness of the game the slow pacing if it wasn't populated with those encounters of there are those that it does feel very plotting. When it's when it's an experience. It's great when it's a game. That's when I feel like it's lacking the gun play is not brilliant the controls. Great. And again, it's just so I think part of the reason why I've struggled with it. Because I've had this point of comparison along my wife has been playing assassin's creed odyssey and now she's on origins. He's been playing the assassin's creed guys similar games on a base level. I guess you know, you walk you. Go around towns this side quests you wish for your whole. She holds comes gets comes and gets you. But in a sessions creed everything is pretty easy. It's gay me. And it's and it's catch in the world of game systems. Like, if you wanted, for example, bound in odyssey, I'll give it a couple of examples in sessions creed odyssey. You have bounty hunters that come off to you. And that's true in red dead as well to pay off your bounds, and you can pay off your balance to get them off your back in both games to pay off the bouncy in ashes creed odyssey. You go to the map screen hit X to pay off the bouncy to go to pay off the bounty in red dead. You have to ride to the nearest post office probably through territory where you're wanted by bounty hunters, and then you pay off once you get to the postmaster station. So that's like an. Stra chore that you've got to do. It's just a button press when you whistle for your horse in assassin's creed odyssey. It just immediately shows up, and it's all your sod when you wish for you hoes in red dead is, you know. Maybe it's a round, someway, maybe it's fucked off somewhere, and it takes over it the Mosey on Bank to you. Now, you go get it. There was a mission. I did this deliberately and again, I think they wanted to experience the world of the game. I stole a stage. Coach I wrote out to the middle of no way where I had to leave the stage coach to stage it for Aleida train robbery. I was gonna do. And then of course, I don't have my horse. I tried Wesley HOGAN says your horse his out of whistling range. That's the breath of the Wild Thing breath. So the so the horse is not coming and it says returned to the Kemp. Yup. I am miles from the camp. Well. Take. You'll hor they'll get a horse. Yeah. So I wonder wonder up to some horses, and they they they scatter. You could always rob someone you can always had to do. I had to stand on in the road white for some pool. Boss to come on a whole shot him and took in GT, you'd have no problem yanking someone out of their car and taking their you don't even think twice about the fact that you're thinking the fact that you feel for these NPC's down the trail, these you say hi to them every time. Yeah. That that's immersion. I was gonna say I have a hard time playing like plunge EJ five Trevor Phillips. I have no problem murdering everybody. Yeah. I mean, it doesn't care but even even like Michael's ship. I can't remember the kid's name. But the the kid was the good guy in dry five. I still didn't have any compunction about murdering people with reckless abandon that. Because there's a lot of them would this when they all feel much more realize I didn't want I didn't wanna shoot some of the horse. So he buddy choice him off just dragging buying. This is another example where rockstar doesn't Ukraine job telling you what you can or can't do because sometimes if you have no horse, you could stand edge a road, and you could kinda hitchhike and get a stagecoach to take you nearest town. But they don't tell you that because there's no to'real because that's how rockstar designed if you if you're standing there on the side of the road, a hit straight who come by. You could just take a stagecoach stagecoach. A lot of the somebody somebody. Put it this out on Twitter that was a good distance. And they said Brooks dot tells you how to play the game they tell you the controls, but they don't teach the control they show you they show you how you can play the game discovering. I mean, it's one of the it's one of those games that like many many hours in you still doing Tourelles because it's so much the game to show you like when it was the second chapter. There's still tutorials the third chapter. And we did we did in the third chapter. You learn how to fish on a boat. Oh, wow. I haven't done that. Oh, yeah. You'll you'll you'll go out in Dutch. We'll take you out on a fishing trip on about some of my favorite moments are like the poker. I played poker for two hours the other day and the poker game. I like it the poker. Unlike most video game poker games. It's actually a good poker engine like NBC's, play smart. They don't bluff like with reckless abandon well to the most part. They have tells super because they have avatars in better than any IOS phone poker game because they're a little bit of stakes two dollars out of your. Whatever your cash is you feel like you can actually lose money, you can gain money. You feel like if you clear out a table you've done even though took four hours and you can play play the game with the with the knife. Yes. On a play some dominos. Yeah. The the hunting stuff like the hunting big game, those little side missions are are really tencent. Compelling because you know, you're gonna die. You're gonna lose something. It's a pain in the butt. It's interesting is is what I'm doing the missions at the game shows the most game and the most rockstar. It's okay chases. This guy's run running away. You got to chase them. Now, I get now code him. Now going to bring him back to cabinet just feel very much. Like these chores you've got to do. It's when you decided I used to do this. I remember I used to do yoga GTA, and I would just it wasn't. I enjoyed doing the yoga of the game. Let me do anything. I wanted. Right. And I can just do whatever. It wants you decide today. I'm going to do this mission. White for me, you know, it's not going anyway stories don't going to progress without me today. Today's play session instead of doing a mission. I'm gonna go hunting or I'm gonna go fishing gonna go just wonder facade quests. I mean, honestly, if the if the part of a vast majority of my problem with the game the challenge of the game is that it uses the control scheme, which if feels arbitrary and incoherent in this twenty eighteen when we have a million really really tight control schemes. And like, we know what a well. What a what a what a tight game control feels like we don't. Yeah. That that's a game that controls. Well. The cameras responsive the character stops on it. I mean, he is Spiderman so he's fast. Like, this doesn't feel it doesn't it? What I was paying Spiderman, and I'm fighting tombstone, and I'm swinging around the rafters, and I'm and I'm like, I feel like Spiderman it feels so good to swing around him and yell at me and be like come down from there. I'm going to need to punch you. And then you come down to you punch in the back swing away. Again, you feel like Spiderman in a way that video games are doing something amazing. I feel like a degenerate in the west country. You are degenerate in the west, but I don't feel like I'm really good at shooting. Like, I feel like if you're if you've been a game if you've been a outlaw gang for twenty years, you should be fucking good at shooting people pretty good shooting. Okay. Yes. But you ought to all that. I just feel like it's not it's it's I do think it suffered going from Spiderman was the last game. I played all the way through to completion. I played it for many many hours, and then I didn't play anything else for a bit. And then I played red dead. And I think it suffered coming up the Becca Spiderman because they really are very very different game Spider-Man, sir responsive and so fast and easy to get into play and red dead is none of those things and they're both open world game, some extent and spider-man's Manhattan is massive, but I got bored because of how fast I could move around and just took the train after a while. It's interesting going from, you know, going from midtown up to up to the Bronx. None of that felt interesting in red dead. When I go from the city that I haven't been in a week of play Valentine or strawberry from to a new really feels like trekking back and going back to an old place. Like, I'm making more memories in this game than than I didn't Spiderman. I mean, I feel like Spiderman they tried. To fill those by adding a bunch of collectibles and stuff to do along the way the black hat missions. And the and the fighting the the checkpoints and all that stuff photos and taking photos all all that stuff is the solution to that problem. I agree. It's not as compelling solutions actually making the world. Really interesting phone into the game. I'm in chapter four. Two three judges showed up in Rhode Newtown. You'll love that one the store. Emissions are really good. A lot of personality of say d say decides to come to the fore. That's I think this is the aspect of the game. That's maybe I feel like Ciller underdeveloped twenty two other people in your camp that you travel with each -sposed overtime reveal the personalities, and yes, I know, I know Lenny, I know Zia, and I know Dutch, of course, but like when they were promoting this game. And when they were promoting this game there, they had these like big like, you know, these these character cards telling you all the personalities of these people you'd be living with your family, and it really takes a long time before you really start getting some affinity for some of the characters you don't interact with the lobby should like you've been living with these people for twenty years some of them, you should know them, and it shouldn't like. But like I don't care about MRs Grimshaw in the first two chapters three chapters of the game on till chapter four when stuff happens everyone has their day in that something hopefully by the end of the game really feel a connection to all these. So the parallel for me on that is I don't know if you've watched orange is the new black, but in order, the new black each of the episodes and larger seasons kind of has an arc around one of the characters and each of the episodes usually reveal some back story lost yet. Why this person is here and what what happened to them previously and all that. And and I feel like each of the missions going with one of those people gives you those hints, but with twenty of them it takes a while. Yeah. Yeah. I could talk about red dead for days. It's what I've been playing when the baby goes to bed at night. Sleep. I should probably go to sleep. You should really be catching up. Yeah. Your job your job now is to keep your wife and your child alive. That's all you have to do read that can wait. It'll still be there. Murder people on your own time later. All right. I wanna before move on the next segment, we're talking about some pop culture news. I want to other sponsor makes this episode possible. And that's lutron, Caserta smart lighting system. 'cause Saito by lutron takes your smart speaker like Alexa, cool home your apple home pod. 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Now, it's about babies and video games and popular coach. It turns out. That's stuff that excites. Us more, right? Podcast your true crime bullshit. So over this past weekend. Disney and Disneyland released a first behind the scenes video of the upcoming stores land. I know they're not calling that galaxy's edge. Is that what it's called the Bill something that they're building in Disneyland parks right now. And it shows a lot of the stuff under construction time lapses of walkers being built, and it's all set to the new score the John Williams made for this land have yet seen the video. No, look so both Disneyland on he has never been what never been to Disneyland. Wow. Yeah. Clinton going. You're you've some point your kid. No about Disneyland. Look, man. If you let them watch any. Here's a pro from somebody who made the wrong choice like four years ago. Don't put the Disney app on your TV don't put an ipad don't have anywhere near it. Because a lot of ads for Disneyland's ads for toys or anything usually but ads for Disneyland. Hey, look, you can two hundred fifty bucks a person today. You know, a lot of money to Disneyland and she loved it. You should definitely do it. We should. I'm really curious. Is this new store sleep land gonna be for kids? There was more for you. And me for us. I think it's kids don't like Star Wars kids like Sarah, the things they like about Star Wars or maybe more droids jars of of the of the kids of the five year olds that I know like Minecraft more night. Night land for Nightline Goto that would be three next year. Right. The. All the Princess stuff. Obviously, the the your PJ masks, very popular with the kids these days, the incredible very popular with kids. Yeah. It's going to be a good after they opened this thing before I go because lines crazy. It's going to be it's going to be suffocatingly miserable. When they first open it. I mean, it's just like when the open cars land hole about one member. Terry Potter land was universal. Yeah. And it was it was like a mush pit still still rough. Yeah. Well, I'm really curious because this video doesn't reveal any of the interesting new like Imagineering technologies that filter. We've heard rumblings of all the droid stuff. You'll tournaments and how they're going to get people through millennium. Falcon ride, right. How are you going to put thousands of people through this every hour? Robinson tree house since they got rid of to put in there. No, it's gonna be a ride over to star tours. But in the falcon, how are they gonna do that? Nobody gets their own cockpit. They'll shove that would in the in the cockpit of the falcon what if they do it like the up cot rides where they have the four four seats in the falcon cockpit. I don't know. Get aboard the next and okay. Yeah. Really looking forward to that. But in addition to that dizzy announces the plus that's the name of their new subscription service. That's coming out next year. It's gonna cost less than net flicks. Bob's costs club books. Do you know how much looks? It depends on the tier if you have the if you have the four K, I think it's like twelve twelve four K, I know flexes planning to experiment in a mobile only to your who uses mobile only necklace. Enzi five dollars or six seven dollars a mobile only, if you want that's not a way to watch if they're spending hundreds of millions on blockbuster movies, outlaw, king and belt of BUSTER Scruggs. Like, that's do you watch on your phone. You remember do you? Remember the old man complaint ozone? What would it be video on the quality is really bad YouTube sucks is bad? The on the job. Yeah. Yeah. That's all you'll see Chris Nolan. Sign up for Netflix exclusive watch movies in theaters he wants film, but Disney plus come in actually, I know they've confirmed LOKI TV show for for LOKI with Tom hilson and on the store side. They have this winter soldier falcons. That's right. That's right. A buddy buddy thing. So as to show up in there. For stores. You have the mental orien- for sending out casting for mental orien-. This is after they killed the Boba fett movie. Yes. What partly it was. This is the John Falvo thing that's been involvement sent okay before concurrently. I don't know is this set in real is a prequel is this old the old Republic Reno anything about it. 'cause it's after rebels. I think after ten of the jet. I okay, I thought so in the old. The no longer counts. I think the man delorean's were mostly wiped out right at some point in the past. The there's some sort of big war between like old Republican the core era and the coach ROY area. Going back thousands of years. Because the meddlers were big were there was a lot of Mandal or business. Plo noise or style was rebels. There's a lot of mandatory and storylines a lot of Mandal law like that. I would I would have gone with men Lawrence Mandola law Pedro, PASCAL whose in game of thrones. And he was also in the Kingsman sequel, he's play them into Laurean. I think it's a good choices been sequel. He he was the guy at the whip Hugh was one one of one that wasn't Channing in a commercial for socks and he was doing a Fred Astaire dance routine. It was pretty good. It's pretty good somebody who can dance good variety. And they also I think I don't know if this official announcements on BB page Gina carano who is she was. She was in haywire. Right. Yes wire and she was in the fast fast six I wanna say fast six she was she was the one who end up being bad won't the airplane forty mile long runway. She. The enemy fighter over was American gladiator and is now TV star movie star. So so hold on. But they're doing they're doing the the Kassian Star Wars also announced that there will be a Kassian and door series. That's exciting. So presumably it's going to be a prequel to rogue one. I mean, you couldn't really do anything after they could. But it would maybe be a little unknown. What do you think? Gary. What do you think should be in a casting and door story? I've got no idea. I honestly have no thoughts on the matter. I, you know, here's the thing. I spent five years working inside the style was universe. I won't roquan. Install was rebels. I worked on some of the books, and I worked on the last Jedi coming at it. So that's all right. That's all out. Really good. I enjoyed are their character bibles for these characters going into those or even for a show like rebels, right? I mean, yeah. I mean. Not necessarily written down. But like right is. No, you know, who the characters when we when we would sit in the rebels, right? As we do a story on like saw Guerrero, or whatever we would know who that character was because he'd already been established in rogue one or some of the man Laurean characters, but a love enough -ly left open ended. So that a lot of the stuff could be filled in for presumably things like this. Yeah. Yeah. I'm excited about it. You know as someone who worked on rogue one. I'm intrigue I thought Kassian was a cool character. So I'm interested to see what they do with it. My hope that Ketu is in there as well. As an opportunity for them to show. How them came together that has been told I believe in comic books and things that whether or not they'll differentiate from the I don't know that's a really interesting thing. But it's, you know, the idea of show about rebel spies is perfectly. Tailored for television. I mean, do different missions each week and so forth. I have no idea. I guess my point is this having. My time install is as far as I know. Let's call me for something else. At some point down. The road is done. I'm back to being a consumer. And the last the last projects that I had any kind of inside track on you've seen them. All so episode nine manned Laurean. You know, cashier, and or and things like that. I know little teeny tiny bits and pieces, but I'm really no more educated or I don't have any more than the next person. I'm back to being just a consumer again. So I'm excited. Definitely subscribe to Disney. Plus, I'm going to be interested to see on the wide level. What Disney plus is. I hope it's not just all this new stuff. I really hope that they put all the Disney vote in their bed. Broomsticks steamboat Willie in every short. They have made his knee. I don't think it is. Yes. Stark agency. I want. I want the nineties cartoons dark wing duck. Yeah. I will. If they wanted to do different tea is I would pay whatever the top tier is to have access to like the full Disney vault. See? Yeah. I think they're going to do like Netflix because they know that people will subscribe to services, even if you don't want everything on demand all once they do season over leases, and those Netflix think the thing to think about is the Disney has of st- vast library of content when you think about de live action kid stuff every that's been on ABC ABC owns. Yeah. Full house all of all family matters. Yeah. They never know who owns it because it could have been production company. But even just the stuff that's under the Disney brand Disney family channel. I don't think all became. And I think on Tanner and everyone of those shows they put the entire run of those shows on Disney, and they should not in initially. I think it's gonna be a roll out. I think they're going to do their market research. No that noth- people. Subscribe in the first wave for these new shows, maybe for all the marvel movies. Maybe we're all the Pixar movies, and then they can say coming twenty thousand nine now, we've process it all Disney. Plus now, you have all your hand Montana and get another wave right scribe. Honestly, the thing that would make me I'm gonna sign up regardless because every kid, but I feel like the thing that I would like to have more than anything else is all like all the shorts because all the Mickey Mouse shorts. All the Don electrodes all the Chippendale shorts all the Pluto shorts. You can't get them. They're not available to watch. And it'd been stuff that was more episodic like more game shows stuff. You know, Nickelodeon launch. There's and I was trying to find old old legends hidden temple YouTube. None of it's because only on this loaning service. And jeopardy was just pro Netflix and people are binging the fairly. I think they'll do different tees, and I think that, you know, you'll get your main to you'll get you manned Laurean, and you'll get your winning soldier show and all of the kind of band pieces of content, but I would pay an extra tier to get full access to the vote and chip and Dale rescue Rangers and had a Montana, and you know, and that's how. Syria, and Mickey Mouse, clubhouse, everything they've ever done. I don't think they have the right? That's that's that's twentieth. Century sauce, the rights in that stuff? I don't think twenty cents FOX is under the Disney umbrella. That's how they'll get you. Because if you'll pay the extra tier you'll pay an extra five dollars you'll bench stuff in the first couple of months, but you'll probably not cancel and you'll probably pay over lifetime. Dizzy plus subscription. You'll pay fifty percent more than you would have paid as well. The real Disney collectors, the Twenty-three, Diane's, mother fuckers. You see him at Disneyland that covered with all the pins and everything, and they know every Disney trivia and the bench ac-, every Disney movie fifty times spectacle, people they I mean falling people falling to on Twitter. If you've come those are the people, I mean, they've already collected them as well. But a lot of things you're talking about the only get them at Disneyland kind of medal those collectors tens of the black and white shorts and things like that. And things that are very very hard to find the on YouTube. Disney is keeps them in the not on Netflix. You can't you can't buy you can't buy DVD or Blu Ray collection of a lot of that stuff. Like get. Get. For them to make available some kind of premium tier I think that I think that the collect the collector diodes de Twenty-three crowd would be totally into that. Look the other way to look at this is that right now like we have YouTube. So we can get Disney now. Right. We have we have Hulu. So we can get Disney. Now, remember when you went, but wonderful world of Disney. They have that. Yes. Yeah. That was great. Saturday night. Michael Eisner, hosted Walt Disney originally hosted like collection of entertainment. Oh, yeah, brilliant. Yeah. Yeah. We there was a science fiction thing on when I was a kid that they did a generation ship that was going to a nearby star as an arc situation, and they screwed it with one adult and a bunch of teenagers. It was an amazing thing. I don't remember. It was called berries for the adult. Yeah. I mean, it was I'm sure it was awful with a bunch of hormonal teens. But if you know what that's called. I'd love him. It was like post battle star problems. So it sounds like we're all on board a subscribing his name. Plus the question of what's your limit? How many of these services we subscribe to is there a hard number or all out? Oh singing about this the other day, how many different if you if you look at my apple TV that has a more laid out in a gallery. So let's think about it. So I subscribe to net flix saying I was on prime, although that's a broad. Amazon's Trojan horse getting you to pay for it amortizing within prime. Yeah. Prime even before they added the video now, nevertheless, it's a service. I probably okay Netflix Amazon prime Hulu HBO now. Brit box. Okay. Gotta what's shudder shudder old Hora. Yeah. Okay. Fantastic. Okay. Ninety nine a month for all the horror. You can imagine that's more than I need. Hallmark movies nail. All my my home Christmas movies WWE. No, don't pay for WWE. Okay. And I'll pay for this criterion channel when that shows up. Did you pay for film struck in a manner of speaking? What I don't understand. I have access to film struck. Okay. I'm part of the problem. Okay. I love films films struck his great. So so I do Netflix. We have Hulu and Hulu TV. So that's that's where our cable channels come from. Yes. And I think we pay for HBO now here. Let me rephrase flushing s what would you cut? I have a hierarchy of CBA access all goes immediately. Wow. Well, wasn't that Picacho right up up by tunes? So you have the discipline to subscribe for three months while new shows out, and then cancel this is the beautiful thing about subscribing through I tunes through a web interface is if you subscribe through tunes or Google play. You just mash the button that says don't renew this and it works out. You don't have to talk to anybody or any bullshit like that. I shouldn't forget because it's actually the most expensive one YouTube TV because that's how I get my TV cut the cable. That's how I get my TV. I have a hierarchy, and I think Amazon's on the bottom of the list, but I don't think I can cancel that. Because I prime. Yeah. Because you're gonna there's gonna be a mobile your shit. We only have three you say that's the one that you kinda spend the least time watching. Yeah. If we're paying for half a dozen these services dizzy, plus comes along we're probably going to add it on at some point. We're going to reach the point where you're paying whatever your Comcast. So you gotta you gotta rank them. So what use the most? So would you do if you could only have one net flicks. I. Well, I didn't even counts you Norma's. It's another Alacon. Does the thing that Amazon does really well is kids stuff. They have like Daniel tiger and Sesame Street kids really into Pete. The cat cats. Good. Yeah. The cat fancy Nancy. Pretty good too. Okay. There's another one that she really likes to watch dot. Yeah. But Amazon on Netflix is the best Hilda's my daughter bounce on that. But I really loved it. Yeah. So you this earlier, but everyone's very sad that films truck scoring away. There's a lot of. And a lot of Simeon's from from filmmakers, even who want to make sure that film. I think what one hundred thousand subscribers if that, but one sustainable from their perspective, but criterion channel which was a partner had film struck. He had access to the criterion collection which used to be on Hulu just to be clear used to be on Hulu. Yeah. Criterion. Channels gonna launch their own streaming service in two thousand nineteen and this will be in partnership with Warner media. So hopefully, we'll have if not all of much of at least all the credit. Armageddon. Successfully film struck wasn't because it's the same thing, isn't it. I think that. Film. She'll spend a lot of extra money on additional programming that they thought very cute one of the things I liked films truckers. It's very curated. It was like. The maker of the month. It's John Wayne weeks as much John Wayne movies, and they have behind the scenes content criterion criterion. Did do that thing where even though they had the rights to the huge library movies? They would window them. You'd have a certain, you know, certain months certain movies would be on this on film truck, and then certain months they would fade away. So you'd have to have tune in regularly to get the programming. I think that's one of the ways that they're gonna get around having pay a lot of money for the licensing is doing these windows, which makes sense, which which makes sense, and I'm happy to pay for it. If it's costs as film truck. I I want Ryan Johnson Krino along just to do a like, hey, here's what you should watch this week. Just that's all I need a channel. It's one movie a week. And just like, here's here's the thing. You should watch. This is going to teach you about film history. And you're gonna learn some new shit because the list of movies that like Ryan Johnson had folks watch it Lucasfilm before episode eight I guess, yeah. I remember I remember watching them is standing and is in. Yeah. Introduced through that by my favorite one of that was twelve o'clock high. That's that's the the Greg grand peck in the two bombers on Netflix. And it's fantastic. The best movies I've ever seen. It's like I never for some reason. I'd never seen it. And I was blown away by it. I know we don't count Utah. As part of this service, isn't there's no one better the but YouTube did have their own pay to watch stuff on YouTube red was called really, and now YouTube is on a roll out some movies, and based movies because a lot of people just watch wanna watch movies on YouTube YouTube is what they have on their phones, you're in the they're in the system. Great made for you in like and YouTube star role. I think starting with the Terminator you can watch full length movies on YouTube with adv breaks great on without any monthly cost just like TV. But now it's on the internet the quietly rolled it out last month. But they're gonna see if they'll be advertisers sponsor films, like Johnson Johnson wants a sponsor three. He's talking. Right. So the fifties. Then then they can sponsor for everyone who wants to stream thou get all Johnson Johnson ads. It's smart to make money, and I know a lot of people on YouTube don't wanna do subscriptions. So they can just watch the ads like I've subscribed to YouTube red for a month about two years ago whenever they rolled it out. And now every time I log into YouTube it, basically like, hey, man, you're watching right now. But you didn't have to watch what you could watch this pay us, and we'll give you three months free. You can try I think eventually they'll get twenty four month free trial. If I keep waiting to to take the offer Google needs. They have so much money. They got. That cash. Yeah. These services Bank on TV shows original programming as as their hooks, right Disney. Obviously. Yeah, netflix. It's only the only one really the only one that's investing in movies. Trying to bring that tune half hour cinema experience at home to get you on Friday night to watch Netflix as opposed to go to movie theaters. And I think they've not had a lot of success. Obviously, they had a lot of things it feels like the the junk pow cycling pile for studios. They couldn't put in theaters put Cloverfield paradox on Netflix got much money to pay for the cost. Like did you guys like bright? They're big. I didn't watch bright because Wilson, but. Okay. I like mutilate the Duncan Duncan Jones his fourth movie, I guess after war. We thought it was. I thought it was charming and interesting and thoughtful, top provoking, none of these movies have been really critically acclaimed there on Netflix. That's the problem the association, I think the first one actually to translate to movies though, because on television, they do great. They won more Emmys than any other any other place. Expectation. I think the type of storytelling you doing two hour movie like with bright, you had all AAA casts. Great director, and for one reason or other maybe movie would have done well in theaters, but on Netflix, the hell them to different standard. So I think clover to that are bad that that I'm gonna give annihilated his one everywhere, but the United States that was a Netflix release initially. And then was not maybe simultaneously, Admiral. Here they did a theatrical release in the staggered by six months before hitting that flex and that movies fantastic. Yup. It's really good. And that movie was really made the director. Garden island garland wanted that to be seen in theaters. Yeah. Like, a huge climactic gorgeous gorgeous film, like I imagine better in theaters. I saw it on Netflix. The other one is I think Cloverfield paradox is is the kind of John reform that often doesn't get made anymore. Right. Like, it's it's it's I thought I I quite enjoyed it. I like the hill movies. I loved the one with the bunker, and John Goodman, and and. Oh god. What's her name from Scott pilgrim? Ten Cloverfield lane yet ten covert real. Yeah. Winstar? Thank you. Yeah. I mean, I think I think that this. If you look at those Cloverfield movies. The first one was found was supposed to be a found footage movie. Right. The second one was a found footage movie where Jj Abrams went out and found a movie that was maybe could get jammed into the Cloverfield universe and then dead and this game. Yeah. I love that conceptually. It's such a fucking awesome weird high-concept thing. Yeah. I I'm really on the overlord is in Cloverfield movie. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Over there. Yeah. Banging amount today. Man, this free ideas. You shouldn't be dropping these simple. Patch Email to yourself real quick to movies out this week on that flicks. I think when maybe elevate the original movie programs level once outlaw king. This is the Chris pine brave things about that. The had a long cut did read about screen at Tribeca screened film festival. It was well received because it was it was considered to be too long and too much fat. Is this Robert the Bruce is that the Robert the Bruce Chris pine playing at the Bruce? So this is in if you only know the story through not history books, but through Braveheart, this is the guy that betrayed William Wallace at the end, then turn and he's the one who leads a rebellion at the end. So they had a they had a really interesting piece much long cut. It showed it at a film festival. A lukewarm response. The direct to said let me go back in and fix it. And I think about twenty thirty minutes out of it. And that's the version that you'll now. See on Netflix, which is which is the editor down supposedly much better version. Yeah. I mean, Trey good. Oh, watch Chris movie. I would've seen in theaters. And I'm just glad it's part of the Netflix. I was gonna say is this is this a situation like all the president's men and the post where they're like spiritual successors teach other. Yes. So like watch Braveheart and then go watch the Bruce EMMY, historically. They are chronologically. Okay. One after the other. There was a scene in the early cut of outlaw king where the Bruce and William Wallace met scene. Netflix. They don't they actually didn't paint their faces blue. And you have seen ballot. A bus to the other movie that one this is I think is the movie can win net flicks. Maybe movie award. Like is paying. So it is an Thalji movie, which I don't think those typically do. Well, in theaters specially original stories theology film rooms like eight people saw that in the theater. So this is six stories we'll put room exactly it's a western. It's stylistically very different. Every story is different. I think they get better as you get to the end of rate casts from. Very much red Dennis. We gotta wait for hours to get to the good part. And you know, what playing read debt, and then watching movie go, really great hidden hand. Okay. I won't spoil the stories both the framing mechanism is that a book the open a book about of BUSTER swags and just like an old Tommy books. You would get color plates. Every every so page, you get a painting. Right. And so they opened up every story with a painting from the story with a caption the bottom, but you'd have no idea what it means until you watch the story. And then that painting has extra meaning big fish does that too right? Or is it just the guy telling the story? I'll have to check that out. I love the coins Weston's a western mood frame of mind right now because red dead. Yeah. And I like short story. So it's. Perfectly tailored for me. And they've been a lot of westerns where they've been from true grit. No countries, I guess, a western and. Oh, brother where Brian kind of send the south felt like western exactly this has a mixture of Tonelli of all of them. Totally. It's like it's little little bit of the wacky little the the black humor lot of the bleak. So if you're prepared to be hit hard with some of these check in one of the things I've enjoyed about red data's. Finding fight noticing the references like obviously opens with with a hateful eight type situation. I haven't seen a liberty Valance setup yet this kind of story where this isn't riffing on anything else. This is these are stories that will get riffed on in in red. A+? Yeah. And finally Wilno even playing hitman tell us about the play into which is the sequel to hitmen, I think twenty sixteen maybe I can't remember it came out a few years ago is an episode of games. It's actually like the fifteenth hitman. It's it's the second one in the current lineage. I think the last one petered out with blood money, which was maybe three sixty game. This one is is a new engine the hitman one missions. They released epizotic Lii. And it was the first one the kind of treat it as a live game. So in addition to rolling out a new episode every month or two a New York New mission. They would also roll out contracts and esscalation and things to do in between. So basically the difference here is that on the old games. You could play them like any other game where you like sneak around with a knife and jab people the back of the skull and kill them died their bodies. But the secret of the hitman games is always something doing something ridicu-. Listened and absurd in this otherwise serious world. So you're this assassin guy you can creep around. Unlike most other stealth games like dishonored, or you're the cer- whatever you can change clothes. So your your stealth is not like creeping crawling in the shadows. It's just pretending pretending to be a waiter to get in the position you need to do the things. So for example, so hitman to continues the story from hitman one, which is the least important part of the game. If you have hitman one on the platform by hitman to play all the old missions in the new engine with all sorts of new mechanics that they added into kinda round out the first go round, which is what I've been doing even played I played a little bit of one of the new missions, so far, but there's there's a mastery levels for each of the world's so in order to get the whole mastery level unlock all the weapons and gadgets, and the cool things that you want the noisemakers, and the remote that nation bombs in the remote donation rubber Duckie's, and all that stuff you have to kind of engage with the world in in in the way that it's designed to be engaged with. So instead of just Niki around stabbing in the back of the head. You have to figure out how to trigger the fire alarm and get the two people that you need to kill in the right place. You can drop chandelier on them get the two people to be standing in the right location. So that you can sneak up on the balcony and push one of them over the edge. And that person falls on the other person three stories down and kills both of them or so they should. Guys, bolster right place costuming systems AI systems. It's and just thought out all the myriad possibilities that you could kill someone as early in the mission as possible or as lane mish. So it's it's it's not about speed often. It's pretty it's. Yeah. It's much more like they build a clockwork world and their triggers that cause events to happen. So in one of the this is a spoiler for him and one, but in one of the missions, you have you have to you have to kill people who are scientists working on a bio weapon and destroy the sample of the bio weapon, right? It's it's one of the best video game levels of all time. I think and as you explore the world you find out things about the characters. So you find out that the guy who's the mad scientists developing this bioweapon has real mommy issues and his mom recently died she lived with him in the house. He doesn't like leaving the house because it's where he grew up in a he is a great attachment to it, and you can put the sequence of events in place. That makes him think his dead mother is still alive and dry. Him over the edge. So that then you can get it in position to Chuck him into a mulcher, right and and bleak. Yeah. It's it's it's it is. The new one in the previous that's from the previous. Okay. If you're going to do if you buy it, and you don't have the old one I would strongly recommend this pain, the fifteen bucks, twenty bucks. Whatever it is to get all the new levels in the in the new game. You can do the mastery progressions which unlocks like, I said new weapons new costumes new starting locations in the levels and stuff like that. And as you get further along you'll like you'll go from one of them is a fashion show, and you start with as a as a guest the fashion show, you'll eventually get to the point that you can be a security guy on the top floor of the fashion show. So you already have access to a lot of the areas. And a lot of the game is figuring out. How how do I get into this area without without trespassing or whatever if you haven't played these before your cares about a giant bomb thing? The for the game of the year the year that they the lash ever came out, which I think was twenty sixteen called hits Mus H I T S AS and just watch a couple of videos and you'll see the magic of these games is figuring out how to do the absurd. Not not playing them like a like a traditional self game where you're sneaking around and the game having somebody having the foresight. Let you do those things. So the difference between this hitman the this generation of men in the previous ones is before you. You may be figured that out the game didn't kind of lead you to it to your to do it. Now, they have things called mission stories, which are explicitly pop up. You I elements strike, hey, you just had a mission story. Do you wanna see what this is? And you menu and says. Bob's Bob has mommy issues that it's it's good for when you're starting. So you know, what to listen for got it. But like read you have to listen to the incidental dialogue, and you have to like you'll find out. Oh, he has a lot of videotape old VHS tapes. He wanted them all destroyed. I must have forgotten one. There was one up in the observatory or whatever it's a little bit of hand holding for people who don't listen it's breadcrumbs to get people started looking in the right direction if you play like a traditional sulky. And you're going to be born all right man to already that's for pop culture. Let's move on some tech news. I don't have any music insurance. I want to give a quick shout out to tetris effect. Oh, yes. Goodness. Now. It's divisive in my household what? Because maybe doesn't like it. The screen right now danika is not a fan of tetris burning man. Which she's call, and it just want straight up tetris the colors on the blocks, the standard colors, and it's also kind of expensive. It's forty dollars for tetris game two really good tetris. You've you could buy tetris on is not on putt forms. Get. Touch switch and you get the Tetra experience. Here really your what you get more. Is that you get the music, and you get design that lets you. Amp amused because you play if your wife doesn't like games by MS I don't know if we could be friends anymore. That's it's the it's the MS factor. Res- you're not gonna like first of all I understand people that say, well, it still just tetris saying it's still it's still just moats up or or which is great. But I've bought Moser couple times before the London philharmonic of the NFL hallmark does the best one is I would say I've been playing tetris games. Now for almost thirty years. I I experienced purchase tetris in nine hundred ninety nine when it came on the game. Boy, Nintendo Game Boy. And I still have that that cartridge in that game. Boy, I the number of hours I put into that thing the serial play and everything got at some point. Well, just been tetris machine. I've ever was that contres practically fused into the game. I never put another cartridge in. It was just a GameBoy head. It was just a tetris hand held probably tetris. Ah dozen times since then tetris splash on the XBox three sixty tetris ultimate on the Xbox One. Pull you tetris on Nintendo. Switch many many times over the years. I would say that centers is the best version of I've I've played. Even without a multiplayer component, which on a normal circumstances unforgivable. So I feel like it's the best ones that saying the T spin. I still like the snus version best. I think do you bullshit do use the technical term is. But the saving the peace on the corner. The whole hold okay? Holds vital. I in the Nintendo sixty four version. I believe. Version because it was any recent tetris township in ships gym. But it wasn't in the hardcore touches players is there's a bit of a division about whether or not holding a piece is considered like tetris when that was first brought in some high level touches plays sneered as kind of like, you know, to tetris for babies, but it's, but it's been it's been popular. And it stuck around the hold pace. I love the windows ninety five or ninety eight version tetris that's a pretty good one. It's a game. That's exclusive right now to PS four. And of course, works PS VR, JIRA talk more later, pretty good and B E R. And it's one wish was on a device Oculus goal on mobile VR game bed. I do have to try. No. But I have to get a game pad bluetooth influence, even the XBox. Really? Okay. Yeah. So hopefully, it's not it's just a time exclusive, and hopefully we'll be on other platforms because it's a game that I wish I could just it's a perfect five minute game. It's game. While you're better tetris. It's like thirty five forty for me. Too much. I feel that you playing some playing the scores many points you can in three minutes. Great mode. I it's unclear how much Sony paid for that. So it may be forever exclusive. We'll see all right res- infant never came on XBox. Yes. Really count. Five. Well, that's true. Quickly. Tek news. Black Friday will include that cyber Monday. Are you guys looking to buy anything? I'm not in the market. But you never know what my pop-up I just replaced. A TV or anything. I mean is there any early would on on deals with field? Started sorely now. Black Friday starts in the beginning of November. And so really the whole event on Friday, especially going to a store who does that anymore. Many people don't some people Singley on the phones, and I will be on my phone come Thursday night or Friday looking for things. But nothing I'm not in the market for keep an eye on my Twitter feed for whatever. Article pops up here the ten best, you know, cyber Monday deals or whatever. But I'm not I remember a few years ago. It wasn't again. I wasn't in the market. But there was a deal on some really good headphones, and I could use some headphones, and he was super cheap. I love those headphones noise canceling headphones, I may be in the market for those because I got a tip that using noise cancelling headphones. Middle night really helps when changing a baby's diaper. You cross. You don't wake up or you? Don't doesn't hit that point word crazy. Morio sixty four on Twitter is good for game and tech deals. Black Friday or ceremony. It's always a great time to buy last year's. Hi in products years TV, if you wanna get TV we saw big fans of the g the b six series of the or b seven c seven those are fantastic. I don't think you need or the eight series ones or last year's laptop surface Proser going really, cheap pro six. Great computer updates this year. That's a big lab. Great laptop dive recommend black Friday. Gary. Did you talk about the your model model X time you're here? I don't remember using it differently this week because handy this week because I paid extra for the premium package which included something called bio has a defense mode again. Sounds like a ridiculous Elon Musk silly Easter egg type thing it came as part of it was the premium package includes a better sound system. And I really liked to listen to music in the call, of course. So I paid for a better sound system. But it also included this thing by as defense mode, which is essentially fill to an F L to the it's supposed to be able to protect you in the event of nuclear will maybe not nuclear biological. And one hundred very high end filter and with the equality being as poor as it has been lately, we've actually used it quite a bit as we've been driving around. Chris Chris the button, and it blasts, the the AC, and yeah, you're breathing very very clean fresh type air, which is anyone else particularly in northern California right now, we'll know just how bad the the lives feels like you're living in the middle of a massive bonfire. What happens when you open the door? Does it like cranking up really high deposit pressure, your anything or get the bad air back in you, just get the bad it back in? Oh, I mean, really opened the door. That's when hominid exit the call. But yeah, it's been you know. It's one of those features. I never thought I would have any seemed like, oh, yeah. How silly throw Nissen just for lock autopilot haw, but it's actually autopilots good. Well, we talked about this while you weren't here. But yeah, the if you don't have it doesn't matter if have tesla tesla, but if you're in California, you should drive with the recycled air setting on. Yeah. Definitely. We always have that. And don't take the outside. Aaron if you run max fan recycled air, you'll run the air through filters, and that will be significant difference. The thing in quality. I mean, the the interesting thing about the fires. California's department of air quality posted a thing a couple of days ago. It was like, hey, if you wanna use a mask to not breathe bad air needs to be the kind with two straps and probably respirator. It has to be an an ninety five or better higher numbers are better. And yeah, it's if you're if you're wearing the kind that looks like a surgical mask with the flaps around the cheeks and not doing anything. Yep. Yep. That doesn't actually filter anything. Will you came in today with an your Android phone and showed us nightmare on your Android? Night-sight nightsights night-sight and your experience with it works. Really? Well, this is Google's new got. It lets you. They finally released it for pixel phones it let's use machine learning to combine. Multiple exposures information for multiple exposures to get a what I would describe as a shockingly clear image in. What would you say practically? No, we're you able to see my face when that picture with my I it's practically very low light practically black not quite black like Gina, and I took a picture of Gina on the front porch of the house earlier this week. And the only light that we were getting was like reflected from across the across the street off of a street light. And like a couple of twinkly lights. Somebody bushes. Flash. Which gives you the list. I think I've taken a flash photograph in years. I don't know why they even bothering cluding on the on the phones flashlight. That's the only reason you use it. Now, you don't use it for flash photography 'cause it sucks wish. It's a flashlight they can change a temperature on especially on those phones with two different color LED's. Yeah. Well, this one this one I couldn't see her face at all. And I got a picture that was. Yeah. Grainy, but but usable useable online, you're not going to print it out. But it's better than much nothing. Like if it's like a birthday party. It's blowing out the candles or your kid's birthday. You might use it on. I can see I can see that being good. Yeah. Old still might my need have your child. Hold still. Well, an interesting thing is if you put on a tripod or rest, your hands not moving so use accelerometer and gyroscope to if you're if you're hands not moving it changes the exposure times dramatically, and it seems like it uses one or two pictures to get the edges and then fills in color information over the multiple exposures and uses the machine learning to figure out how to combine them. It's really neat. Alexa devices Amazon devices. Yeah. I have the corporate spy in my house. If you have Skype Microsoft's ailing Skype calls on Ray says just wanted more Skype in my life. Nothing better than Scott of people use Skype pay wanna use Skype you need to update it. Yeah. Sign back in and then it's never gonna sign out or never turn off when you want it to turn off Skype Skype, so many people use it and let me know when it uses zoom. What's that, man? What's get that get that next gen propaganda channel. Yeah. Apple sales will rumors venture beat as a story. Actually, Wall Street Journal story that apple is cutting orders on all their three new iphones with the ten are up to half of its production thirty percent of the Prussian cut from because of lower-than-expected sales. So they consider making the phones better. While they did make them better. Well, then better we mean as good as they had been charging them. Here's a thousand dollar phone last year. And I didn't regret it at all. It was very good. This one did not look better enough to spend another thousand dollars. So I'm happy keeping the thousand dollar phone from last year, you read these apple poll, just blogs. Let's say yes, the phone is thirty percent more expensive last year. When charge searching thousand over six hundred but it's more than thirty percent better. Will we had been expecting that your year for the same price? That's why they're new phones every year or don't release a new phone this year. The apple the iphone four was thirty percent better than three g in the five was over thirty percent better on the four, but they kept at the same price. That's how new products are supposed to work, right? And the point of the ten was, hey, we're going to put some new technology and here, it's more expensive. And we can't scale as much as we want. But then they sold a billion of the iphone tens and they kept a price high. That's an interesting model. It turns out that they've that price. Elasticity is a problem for them that people are really willing. To pay this much because commune Weller because a lot of money out there. But also hurt the ten are which in many ways a lot like five scene. It's better than the foot. The five c was because they didn't skip out on the processor has their best eight processors, just though right? And it's just the one camera, but how they have cortra- mode with one camera, and they have the LCD versus the older, you know, it's a different size for slightly different form factor. Bigger bustles, whatever. But looks good all review says this is probably the best iphone bang for buck during a get and yet people care. No, one cares because they just want the most expensive thing and apples trapped in that market were a lot of the consumers just want procedure. Having the latest and greatest that has offer. I mean part of their magic for a long time was that, you know, you go to the car dealer, you go to BMW by car, and they have the thirty thousand dollar the car with one number on it. And then they have a two hundred and fifty thousand dollar supercar. And if you look at the difference between those two you can tell this is the this is the bad one in this is the good one with the iphone. If you buy the the sixteen gig iphone ten making sixteen guys ten, but if you bought the sixteen gig iphone five five as then you still had a phone that looked like the sixteen. Looks like the expensive ass five. Not like they were visually identical. So you were getting the nice phone where you bought the five hundred dollar one or the thousand dollar one. Yup. And now they've jacked up and the ten hours the only one that you get the good capacity without paying too much for the hundred twenty gigs. You don't have to pay. It's eleven hundred bucks for the ton or twenty gig. For the tennis tennis tennis. There's only to sixty from sixty four they screw you. And they they. Yeah. Okay. That's unfortunate. Yup. So it just shows that the thing that help them last year in terms of people willing to pay a thousand dollars for phone is also hurting them this year because people don't wanna pay less for something that seems in fear. I mean, the other thing about this gear you actually bought one, right? Well, I'm on the upgrade plan. Okay. So. Yes. But you know, we just pay the same fifty bucks pain before. Yeah. Basically. So you send the phone back to apple? Yeah. So so I mean, the thing to me is that up until this point. There's been a compelling reason to upgrade more or less every year like had I not been working at tested. I probably wouldn't have gotten success, right? I would've kept the six plus and been happy with it. I wouldn't have gotten the five the four s for sure this eerie one 'cause who fucking cares about Siri. But but at the same time, most of the rest of the upgrades provided a compelling reason. Either cameras been markedly better the the battery life is better something changes and makes the phone better. And this one seems like it's kinda Matt to worse. The worst. It's been the worst s perhaps the worst year on year upgrade they've done. I mean, again if I were on the upgrade plan. There's no way I would have done it. So speed three g or three GS s. Right speed Serey. And the camera was way better on the three s than speeding speeding camera. Great, great, upgrade, Syria. I think it was questionable upgrade. Yeah. As an S. Yeah. Battery life was better on that one though the five five touch touch ID that was a great upgrade six s for press tactic feedback which really touch a bit is the biggest waste of an upgrade. The other thing. That's interesting is having the face ID phone and then going back to the pixel two with the fingerprint sensor when you wearing a mask all the time. Face ide-, turns out his useless. Sure. I'm typing my code in. And that delay between when face ID tries to do its thing. And then realize it's gonna fail real bummer with the mask on. I mean, this is a problem for three weeks year like small part of the. Country. But it's an annoyance. If you're wearing a scarf in the winter in Chicago. I'm sure. I think that does it for this. We've gone really long and thank you both for coming in thanksgiving plans making thanksgiving. He's coming nice. I'm sorry. If people who. Tentative plan. I think. Okay. Yeah. We'll we'll we'll do something. People wanna see the baby you won't be left out to hang out at home. We'll just put up on Skype on the TV the red dead. I don't think that's true. I think if you're in red dead, you're going to have probably spousal problems. You spent? Tell them my family, family Dutch, and. Twenty of autumn. Never name for joining this week. Hope you up there have a great thanksgiving, and we'll be back next week. When other episode, I don't have any Tra music, maybe put something in in the post editing until men will see next time. All right.

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707: Grow Your Revenue through Customer Success, with Emilia DAnzica

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707: Grow Your Revenue through Customer Success, with Emilia DAnzica

"It's time to accelerate. Hey, friends. This is Andy Walker episode seven zero seven seven hundred seven of accelerate the sales podcast of record. I have another great his lineup free today. Join me as my guest today is immediate danika Amelia's partner for customer success account management at winning by design and today, millionaire gonna talk about customer success. How CS known has become a driving force in revenue growth in the SAS industry. Now, this model will be soon become applicable to many other industries and businesses as well. We'll get into the volving role of customer success how it's structured where reports and how success is measured for customer success now before we get to Melia. One quick second talked about the sales house the sales accelerator community for B two B sellers. As sellers. We don't have a ton of control over a lot of the things that have an impact on our our job. We don't can't control products pricing features customers and so on, but what we can control is how we as individuals conduct ourselves in front of our buyers, all those other factors Palin importance to how we connect how we build rapport how engage the interest. If our buyers how we build trust. And how we deliver the value that inspires them to want to do business with us, and that's the focus at the sales house to enable sellers. Just like you with all the knowledge skills confidence and Accu men to become the very best version of you. I've been sales for more than four decades. And like you have seen plenty of people pushing empty promises what how to get better. But if you just invest ten minutes a day of your time in the sales for an entire year. I guarantee you'll never have to worry about hitting quota ever. Again, you get unlimited. Thus two courses coaching content and community of motivated peers who know that to learn more means to earn more. So come be the best version of you at the sales house. Visit the sales house dot com. That is the sales house dot com slash join look forward to seeing there. All right. Let's jump into it. My guest today. Imia danika Emili doing I'm well. Thank you her. You Andy, I'm doing great. I'm doing well. So as a record this we're both taking shelter from the huge storm setting California you on the northern side on the southern side. And so if people here in the background here drops of rain counting against the window. Has nothing to do about it. So bear with us. So we're gonna talk about customer success today. And this is this is a topic. But. Rehears about and and but it certainly within the SAS business software business at sits really taken off as a driving force of revenue growth within the company's perhaps less. Oh, and other companies. But it's something that I think company should learn about because it's applicable. I think more broadly than many many firms think about so and co said could be a good tool for driving revenue growth for them. So. Tells what's what's the mission of customer success customer success? I believe as a mission is to continue growth loop for sales. So it isn't an extension, but rather a partner of the sales team they work hand in hand to continue to grow dot customer relationship. I don't think one is more important than the other. I I don't believe that customer success should necessarily report into sales, but I can understand in some organizations that is the way it is. But really at the end of the day few really down to the basics the mission of customer success is to enable a customer and for that partnership with the customer to grow. So it's really a growth loop. If you think of a customer journey. Yeah. When you talk about enabling the customer to grow it so K once once they have your product or service your software. On board in the company. That's just the beginning of the journey. And if they don't get the value out of it, then they don't stay a customer. I pretty simple from a software standpoint in the barriers to change are much lower than they used to be in SAS world, certainly in a licensed hosted environment. So. Really paying attention that people are using it and using proteome productively excuse me is really essential loss. And I believe that customer success is so relevant and important that it's no longer a SAS term COs e think of we work, for example, while they service tech companies non tech companies. They now have a vice president of customer success, and they realize the value of it. So the woman who's heading up the organization is hiring an entire team globally because we were has recognized the value of customer, success and servicing the the people who are leveraging our offices. And that's really the point. Is we make before us? This is not something just I mean, certainly, I shy Donal probably get into later. I'd spent two or three years on a customer successful. It wasn't called that at the time. But that's exactly what. Was. Yeah. Wasn't tech business. But but it was such a central role in the company that. It really had outsized importance. And I think that's something that that companies are serve don't spend enough time thinking about is. I think yes, we sell it at sort of it. Right. And maybe they'll give us a referral. And if we're lucky, but not enough energy are spent on. Yeah. Somebody really getting the value out of this that the expected the meeting expectations when they purchased. The bronze. And I would argue and the research that winning by design has done shows that if you are able to onboard have a successful handoff do the on boarding, well and really grow the customer the lifetime. Value of the customer is really asked her the opportunity is closed. It's not a closed sale. But rather a commitment. And if you look at that commitment, the growth can be seventy five to ninety two percent of the lifetime value. If you think dollars Bill there was value live initial contract. Yes. Yes. So if you think of that that's significant for companies, and when you're trying to seek venture funding, for example, you definitely need to be able to show that you have a product that one the market is ready for into that you're able to renew in those customers. All right. We'll we'll get into the the growth aspect of it and a bit. So let's get back to out structure because you raise the point that a lot of people initially gravitate towards like it doesn't report to sales. What are you talking about? So one of the pros and cons of where customer success report. You know, I've seen it where I recently worked with a client last week and the customer success organization did report into sales, and I talked to the head of customer success. She's thrilled that she's reporting into sales because this sales leader has so much influence over the organization able to leverage part of the budget for customer success kickoff. That's where winning by design team in spent today with the team, and they're able to show the organization customers dot sales in CS through lined, and that's really powerful. So I see that. Why wouldn't they be? I mean, given the given. If you look at the two primary functions of business. This is not my words learned from somebody else by says, that's. To to get them and keep them. Right. Get customers. Keep customers. Get them. Why would that be? Why wouldn't they be on the lines and alignment? Yeah. You know, what I I asked myself the same question if you look at the average salary of Sierra's versus the chief customer officers. I would argue that Cero's are more highly compensated, they have more stock options, and they go to the president's club in Hawaii it rear. It's not generate a quarter of the mortars being generated through customer success. Exactly. So few look at the stats. I know Michael blitz. Stale is putting together right now a servant is going to release this research. I just can't wait for it to come out to really see and be able to prove these type of metrics. It's it's just evident how organizations are structured, and when companies put aside a budget for how many sales people they hire versus. Customer success? I would argue that there's always more money for sales more money for the sales jenner's more money for the offsites kickoffs. That now move it's changing for in the past two weeks. I've been to three sales in customer success kickoffs. Where winning by design was was part of the program, and that's really encouraging to me. So I do believe that that's changing. But if you look at the traditional even companies like slack who does customer success report into it sales. What does that tell me? It tells me that for some reason stales is more important than customer success perceived on more important by refunding with session. Right. Exactly. Yeah. It to your point. You can ask the question is sales disproportionately compensated compared to customer success and. It says someone who who's been in that customer successful yet the time I certainly have argued. Yes. Though interesting at that time in the Roy's in my competition wasn't a whole lot different than the salespeople in the way, the company was structured because it really was a team a team approach, right? Success played a role in the pre sale as well as postal because part of such where sling major account opportunities is you had to have customer success involved in the pre-sale are to lay out what expectations are going to be for once you had the order and once you start implementing wore. And again there there's the line minutes. It's fantastic. If you're able if you can afford to bring the customer success manager before the relationship is solidified in onboard being the handoff starts that. That tells me that the companies invested in customer success. So let's look at the capabilities of individuals customer success success managers. How do they really differ from bad of a salesperson? I mean, again, I I went into customer success. We caught a program management at the time when you're running these large programmes that their customer success pro customer success are ten speaking today, but I came into it from sales ended up going back into sales, and I start came of the pin away from that was like, you know, this part of the career track for sales as they should have to spend a east after spend social enterprise arm shaft spent some portion of their time going through customer success seeing how the product is us making the customer successful because when the comeback another side much better prepared offer the presale Bill to help the customers make decision. And I I love that story that you just shared because I'll I'll I'll share an opposite one traditionally in on boarding of customer success managers. They don't typically spend a lot of time in the sales process or learning. What is the sales journey? How does how does the customer go through awareness, and then become a customer, and if companies take the time and in best in customer success managers to learn about the sales journey. I believe they will be better jobs. They will understand where the customers coming from. How did they become aware of the product? What were their paying points at hence the importance of the the handoff in training? It's critical that you learn those skills, or at least understand the sales perspective. How did this customer come to you as now a paint customer, and what's so interesting? I am coaching someone who desperately wants to be in customer success. He has been rejected so many times by companies because and this is this may be the excuse. I think he's fantastic. But they said we've never had customer success experience. Here's your sales person, and he's very successful in sales and so I- baffled by this. Because when I was at walk me, some of the best CSM's that I hired were sales managers before they understand understood the entire journey. So I would argue that people in sales are of ready acquit to become customer success managers in. I think if I have to hire from a pool, I would I would start with sales. I wonder if in the instances you're talking about where they're resisting hiring salespeople into customer success. I wonder if. That's part of the the issue is just the perception of what customer success is doing. So it gets a little fixated this idea of land and expand, and which I think is is somewhat of a flawed metaphor for what what's really happening because to me than petition of land. And expand is yeah, we're gonna get a few customers, and we're just going to have more seats, sir. Doing the exact same thing. Fine. That's that's one way to grow in count. But for me in the business that I was in for for years. That was okay. But what we really wanted. We wanted the next big thing. The customer was gonna do. Right. We just got the order on this big initiative. Let's call initiative a we really wanted to get initiative being and. For me that was that was the role. I took on us broker manager is a customer success manager. I was leading the charge on helping the customer. Discover their needs if through another sales process, exactly. You know, for me, it seems strange that they wouldn't wanna hire salesperson job fundamentally is the same in many respects are aspects that are different in terms of managing relationship. But when looks at going to get us these big opportunity. You're doing sales job. I agree. And I think it's down Steinman who recently said this law quote him, but the sale never ends. Right. Just because in Salesforce, it says opportunity closed doesn't mean anything. It means. There's a commitment. There's a partnership now the growth the growth opportunity is there if you are a shoe onboard them in orchestrate a successful adoption of your platform. I think the first I've, you know, I've said that the quote good Andy is that the first call customer success, call you have with you have a customer after the order assign is the first sales call for the next big order, and you really have to have that perspective. Right. I mean. Yeah, we're there to serve the customer will do right by the customer of them to get the value out of it. But you know, not doing that through a sense of altruism. We do have an agenda the Genda will make you fabulous successful. So the next thing you need to order your from us. Exactly. Yes. I agree key moments. Those critical events where you are looking at the different pain points. They have asking the right questions, and then alleviating them first before really diving really deep in your product because they may not need all of it at the beginning. Let's ensure their pain points are Leded. I yeah. And that's why I use a different term. That's not when I originally. But it's you know, there are other strategy sites planned expand. I mean, one by worked on a lot is fit in and stand out. And the reason I think the section may be more apt LA Times is that when you bring a product into organization you have to fit into what they're doing. I mean. Yeah, you're you may be disrupting to some degree. Their third system processes, but you also need to integrate with existing processes you do need to fit in. And then show that by fitting in and using your capabilities you've stood out. Right. You've made things you've elevated everything. If I the thing about doing, adding adding seats. I think you're motivations are are not headed in the right direction. I I completely agree. The minute you sound like you're selling to them. They're turned off that Yana. There's the silence in the relationship. Yeah. Surrounding this month. Exactly. Those days are gone. You'd think but they're not. I mean, I've five sat in went to modern sales pro salon in New York and aside a table with SDR managers and sales managers nother talking about that all the time right close this month. How may get some more of this month where the discounts we're going to give I'm like, I listening to yourself. I mean pattern of behavior that had given no thought to does this help us reach our long-term objective. And what are we doing to the relationship? In the meantime. Hey, I'm gonna give you a two percent discount. Two additional seats this month like ROY. I I would argue you don't need to give discounts. Not why not trade. Trades. What? Well, it depends on what is really important to your company at the time. So if you're a series a company, and you don't have customer references or studies videos, why not do a trade if they want to have the same prices last year sure will extend it for another year. But within the first sixty days of of us, renewing we would like to be able to video in case study more if we keep this price than we would like three introductions to call past colleagues or people, you know, that can benefit from our product that can be a far better conversation when it comes to the renewal than just giving a discount. Don't agree. I grant percent companies tend not to think about that so much. You said something that trigger thought is. So how are companies measuring both at the group level and individual level customer success? I do believe that the renewables and expansion are the most important metrics that companies are looking at after all if you count renewed than do you do you need to go back to your product. And look at is it something related to products where they bad fit customers. What happened in the customer journey why're you now only realizing at at ton of renewal. So it's a fundamental problem. There. But I also do believe that more and more things like references introductions to other potential customers. Speaking at conferences on your company's behalf videos. Those kind of things are now also being looked out as motivational. Targets are or metrics foresee fans to look at so for example, gain site, they every quarter every CF some as part of their bonus program is to have at least one case study. So every company does it differently. That's on an individual level. Walk me. For example, the sea of SAM's were motivated and incentivized by pods. So as groups and I love that philosophy. Because if you think about it if there's someone we on your team you want to help them you want to elevate them. And as a group you get stronger instead of just having these key stars on your team. You can't grow a company as quickly with just a few strong sales people or a few strong CEA says you need to elevate the entire. Organize to scale faster. We'll get back to a point you obey before you talked about are being surprised whether the renew or not renew. So what are the, you know, our interim metrics that should look at the say, okay? Are we on track to renew? Right. What's what's going on? And and a little more difficult sometimes to assess I'm wondering what what you see companies doing that regard. What I have found is highly effective is having decision maker the executive champion on the kickoff. Call and really understanding their goals for why they purchased your your product. And then having them on the executive check in after they go live showing them what's been completed and understanding their goals for the next quarter and doing that on a regular basis. It doesn't have to be quarterly. I I recognize that these executives are hard to get on the phone, and it doesn't have to be announcer. Call it can be let's have a thirty minute executive check in and we'd like your executive to be on for the first fifteen minutes to show them where we've been and where we're headed. And if we're able to do that and constantly understand the. Company's goals, and what they care about asking the right questions than we can be a partner in help them leverage. Our products or are platforms in a way that will benefit their company. You always wanna make sure that the cut the customer is the hero in this. Absolutely. I think that's one of the ways that's really important if you just bring the executive in for the renewal call you have totally miss the Mark in the customer journey, and I've seen this happen at a six months check in where the executive was invited and said this is not what I purchase. This is not what I wanted. I will pay for the product until the end of the year, but affective immediately we are not using spot any longer. He was so upset about how the product had been implemented in felt that we did not hear him and what he wanted. And it's because the project manager didn't understand the goals project manager was not part of the sales discussion with implementing something that he wanted or thought was valuable, but no one thought about checking with the exact executive, and that's the really powerful lesson. So making. Sure that your executives are part of the journey at least during critical of ants. Yeah. In that case Lynn since you're giving there. Blame to be associated with the people who worked for that executive because they had no idea what is expected were. So I mean, if also flowed back to customer success in sales because clearly they had misaligned, and I agree that that initial kickoff. Call is is really important. And not not given enough attention real life. I serve interesting has in my career in working in that role developed this the step where I would do when we had a big contract signed and sullen his first call was to sit down and go through with the decision maker. Let's go through the process, right? This is what you start off. This is what you wanted. This is what you specked whatever. This is what we proposed because of what you spec. This is why you decided to buy. Yes. Because of these capabilities, this is what we're delivering. And this is what you should expect a half happen and certain timeframes because one of the things that's I think people overlook is especially competitive environments is that your decision makers have taken our cherry pick the best of what they've heard from everybody. When I think that's what they're getting. Right. So if they're talking to four vendors in their mind what they think they bought from. You is really at the best of what all four companies are talking about. And if you don't reset expectations right at the time of right after the time this season's been made about when you're beginning petition to your point. Precisely you're gonna have this misalignment just as fatal s an I've been on the other end where I've had buyer's remorse. I networked for companies where they purchased. A plot form rolled it across the company, and then had such buyer's remorse because of so much backlash about the product that it was pulled out to really wanna make sure that there's that alignment early on. Expectations on the huge part of the role. So, but I still get back decision before it seems like for me if our managing customer success team, and I had some down to look at what's happening with the big customer along the way. I don't want to be waiting to month. Tens are look at this. Seems like whether it's usage or whether doing customer satisfaction surveys. Or what are the what are those key metrics that are on my dashboard that I'm looking at for these big accounts NPS is widely talked about and idea believe that it's promoter score for people net. Exactly net promoter score customer satisfaction scores after support interaction. Those are all very important. If your company does something with the data. So I worked on a large project fortune fifty company hired need to do NPS projects with them across fifty six thousand customers I called one hundred of them globally, and I presented the data to the executives as they were deciding what to do with the product and the customer experience twenty nineteen and I told them as critical key findings. Hear the voice of the customers. If you don't do something with the state out that it was a waste of money and time, right? So you actually have to do something with it. If you're actually doing something with the NPS scores in listening to the voice of the customer. Then those metrics makes sense. The other one is time to value time to I bel- you incredibly important. And if you don't have a good kickoff. Call and understand will white is value for them. How can you measure it? So but measure being something quantifiable measure being you know in cyber tangible -solutely quantifiable. So the back the pushback, I get is what we've never measured this before. That's why we purchase your product. And I tell them. All right. Will let's make an estimate or are we able to look in your database, for example, and see how many support interactions you had. Over the past ninety days. Let's use that as the foundation. So that we can start tracking in ninety days in six months in nine months to see is the redress up in support tickets. If this is something that is really important to you or a pain point any able to show those first values, I believe that's really important for showing that return on investment. So that's another one being able to identify what's really important to them. And then measuring against that. So what do you see in terms because I've done experienced us quite a bit. As is a disconnect between the decision-makers when they make the decision on the front side. And then you put it in the hands of the people who are the day to day users and completely are on to each other and transact speculations on what they hope to get out of it. Yes. Customer success? How do you? How do you reconcile that? Because that's that's that's hard to do oftentimes before the sale. And but you know, suddenly some is using tools like why I don't use. This doesn't my job and I'm being managed on doing X Y Z and are being measured undoing XYZ. And this helps with ABC while using it, right? Well, I will say that their ways to make sure that you're always in front of the executive if they are not on the calls, and there's a way to to get a pulse. So companies do this, for example, if you are an administrator of slack. You get a monthly Email, whether they're four executives are not sure I don't see a call to action, but they're on the right pass same with ground early. They're constantly every month. Telling me, how many unique words I used. They're comparing me to benchmarks of other users. That's fantastic. But what do you want me to do with the Stato though? It's important. If you're going to be reaching these executives expecting them to open up, the emails, and and tell them then you need to tell them why they should care. Why should they open that Email, and what what should I be carrying about by me purchasing your product? So if you're able to tell me that the things I care about are happening, like reduced support time increased usage of the products. For example, zen dots important, then send me by on. He'd send me the Email. But if it's just to tell me that fifty new people signed up, or we had three thousand interactions who cares that impact my business. So that's why really think that's important. That's just one example because I. Laugh about it. When I get these emails every months, I'm like who cares? Right. And it's so party says when you talk about that, those examples in particular, it's like, well, why if I'm a slack user? Let's say I've got big implementation. I should we're getting that data from my internal people. Why why am I reading this Email? I should have the same metrics, right? Shouldn't my term people who saying we've had x number of people to slack. And we're doing these things with it as flows diving slack. Tell me that we had three thousand interactions more deal ten thousand messages pass through or whatever. Right. Well, you know, I think sometimes if you're relying on your day-to-day users to get this data in the right hands. You may not necessarily get the data to the people that really matter that should be seen this. And that's why in courage companies to invite the executives on those critical of bands, check ins, for example, or to send meaningful communication that they care about. So like, you know, future trends, how will it impact their business future things they should be thinking about or new product coming out while how's it going to impact my business? I should I care. I think if you're able to communicate with them whether it's right in product or through an Email that's quick to read. I don't want three reports. I don't wanna have to go somewhere else in click. Elsewhere show me in a very quick video foreign content that I can easily. Read on my mobile. I think that's that's critical in decision makers interesting. Yeah. I start thinking about that. Because it's it's my my goals. Always is. To enable the the people I can sort of the key movers mobilisers internally three able to present that information accurately to the to the executives on their side. Because quite frankly, the had more credible about it. And to me it's like are the red flag. If I thought the executive thought, I had more credibility than his beer, his internal people. On these issues, and that self would be said pro very problematic. I will say the way that I've been successful in getting executives to come to a meeting is to explain my date to my day-to-day user. I here here's what the meeting is going to be about. And I want to make sure that your executive understands what we're doing together why this partnership matters. And during that meeting making sure that your day-to-day user is the hero in the story. Right. So if you make it about them in new makes them, look good and show the impact on the business. It's very compelling for that person to bring their executive to the table. I grew agree. Great point. We're gonna wrap up on the point. Hey here, but we could do another up just more customer success. Just all of the questions. I had to ask you. So we'll we'll do that at some point. But and meantime, tell people how. They can learn more about you mature doing sure. So I am partner winning by design, and I focus on customer success and account management assessments designs and executive coaching, and you can reach me by my first name Amelia winning by design dot com. Okay. That's much of a music. It's E M I L A winning by design dot com. All right. Well, mealy it's been great to meet you and look for doing this again. Thank you so much for having the Andy, it's been pleasure. Okay. Friends that was excelling for this week. First of all as always I want to. Thank you for joining me. And I want like guest Melia danza Cup during the next week is my guest will be Juliana Stankowski Yano, she's CEO of oxygen and author title radical outcomes. How to create extraordinary teams that can tangible results Julianne on. I are gonna be talking about the role of education versus training and building and enabling the sales teams of the future. So be sure to join us then and along those same lines before you go don't forget to check out the sales house. It is your own sales growth education for to sellers. Just like you. Visit the sales house dot com. Thanks again for joining me until next week. I'm your host Andy Paul good selling everyone.

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PumpRules: Anti Jaxxers

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"Take. Off. So. Much. Well Hello and welcome to watch Rod-. The podcast for all that crap. We'd love to talk about on E. broths me. Ronnie Ronnie Karen High and that's been over there being hi, how's it going good? How are you doing today? Just fabulous just fabulous over here for a vendor print rules reunion recap. It's the final episode of what we know has vander pump rules. That will never ever be like this again. Cake I will never ever be the same I, mean who knows even coming back I mean a lot of people are saying a sticker fork in it. It's over a lot of people are saying it's going to be fully revamped. Who knows who knows what the future has? If I had some of that spooky slow Mo version of the theme song to play right now I would. besties of our. As, Trixie monocle slowly drowns in the pool. Yes, well, everybody here. We are with reunion part three before we get started. Let's shout out. Some black black owned businesses, shall we? I will start. There is Compton Vegan there. A food delivery service and their food looks delicious. I'm looking at their instagram right now. They're instant. Is Compton Vegan K. comp Vegan both those artists together. you can also find them at a better plant based future dot com, so go check them out Compton Vegan Wow, I would order from them, but there a little too far away. Okay. You got today well. One of our all time favorite listeners lauren. Commons says I just want to give you a shout out to a pair of hair. Geniuses at Salon Obsessions in Silver Spring, Maryland Berry and Kim Connell are amazing. You keep your edges. There's no shifting and your hair is laid for the Gods Unisex hair at its best. The website is W. W. Dot Salon. Obsessions dot com, so yes, go go go there for sure. Get your hair done because by the way. Here is a major issue right now for first of all of us during the spent look, adorable bins and a headband, you could see it because we're on captains on demand today, so hi, everybody, watching you can see these patriotic dot com just go to Patriot and look for the command section of the sign up for that. Ben Is wearing a headband. Today's here's very very long. I'm very jealous. My hair is. Is Long. I was actually in to try to Give it a Brett tendrils because my hair is also very greasy right now, because honestly, I have not shower today, so my hair is greasy and I was like this is like a per. It's almost like Brent length so I, mean I could try to make tendrils shall I try to make a tangible live on the show here I'm GonNa pull out a piece. And drop it down. No, it's not really. Really have to do to it. Oh, that's really not a good. That's not now. It's like. Making us something you have to practice, you have to watch You have to watch like a lot of Tito's on Youtube to learn how to groom like you're supposed I've been watching this lady who tells murder. She tells you about murders while she doesn't make up Torio. It's so good, and she just starts to blink faced, and then she's like. Wow, then there was this girl you know. She was so in love with this guy and she collected dlrs. Dlrs might have recognized her from the door the door so on TLC, and she fell in love with the wrong guy. Let me tell you and she just you sit there and watch her. Put on makeup for a good twenty minutes, and she just tells you all about a murder fascinating staff. Do you ever feel like she just making up the story, she's going with it. No, you. You can google all that Shit. Trust me. I go because you know. I'm very late on the fascination with a murder that everybody everybody's been on for the past decade or so I mean I've always I was raised on that kind of stuff, so I guess I was never that fascinated, but who knew you just have a have a ladies sitting there putting on makeup and telling it to you in a way, I mean it changed my life. I man. We've been I. Think we've actually been low key on their murder trend for quite a long time. Someone actually tweeted at us that apparently we had a whole bit about Countess. Luanne Blake marrying, Steven Avery from murderer back in like episodes, three hundred and something so I mean we're that was that's. That's like nine hundred episodes ago on this show so I mean. We've been on the murder beat for quite a while well being of death. Yeah, speaking of death this entire cast. So speaking of your still predict Jacksonville, murder, somebody waiting for that to come true just want that reminder out there in every episode also this speaking of things changing very quickly. This show I mean just every week, something new and crazy Stasi in those guys. All got fired last week and this week Oh and then we got. Apology from der, Pro Vander prompt will go into during the show a little bit 'cause. It's like a Lotta Horseshoe. Has I'm sure you guys have read, but we'll go into that a little bit throughout the show, and then Stasi Fulda Roxie Hart from Chicago and right with things started to go bad, but I'm pregnant and everyone went. So by the way, so I had very mixed feelings about this pregnancy is because on the one hand. I'm just so glad that we don't have to watch a pregnancy storyline on this show, but on the other hand I am so furious that we don't get STOSKOPF pregnant on vanderbilt rules only because it would piss Jackson Britney off so badly because they wanted to be. Yes, the first ones to have a baby and vanapope rules. They've been trying to push that we. We just want start a family because they're rebranding themselves as just like good Americans you WanNa family, and so the fact that like a star, though because them to the baby storyline was like so deeply satisfying to me, just like that it was anyone that beat them. I mean there would have been the best would have been, if honestly was Tom area not that I want them to have a baby, but like it just would have pissed off. Jackson Britney's so much. 'cause Arianna as always had that story of like. People need to stop asking me when I'm going to have a fucking baby. Yeah It's crazy. It's a crazy time to not be able to drink. That's for sure. but wow, you know so things just keep on changing and now the anti-jackson movement. anti-jackson are out in full force, trying to get rid of Jack. Switch on my God. I hope that happens. That'd be very. Object, just start over okay. I think it's going to be a little harder. Though because Stasi like with Saas in Kristen, all their stuff with faith, they like talked about it. They were like it was on her podcast. It was just like full on documented and undeniable whereas. That please please please correct me if I'm wrong because I just, I'm not fully up on all the stuff. Oh my God. Is there documented stuff I'm. There's a whole game around fire Jacks or canceled Jack or something I had not been following. Look at all the evidence right there i. mean it's all was because I know that there was people. There was the stuff we talked about last week that there was rumors that Bernie. Said some racially insensitive at the the kind way to put it things about faith, but that was just sort of like. I I'm not saying that she didn't say it, but like I I. Right wasn't. but yeah, Jackson let me just go through Jackson twitter. It's a fucking horror show and a lady from ninety. Day, fiance came out and posted some comments that he had left on her thing COSC- he says something like your boyfriend's knows is huge like he needs to know star something like what you can't say to a personal like stupid jacks idiot, and that was obviously racist at which brings us to our next. That's just one of many, but that is what's bringing us to our next topic, which is Lance Bass so lance vastest week went on his podcast, and it was like what Jackson I mean. We just had what Jacks I mean. We knew that he was an asshole. But you know I called to tell Jackson I I didn't agree with it and I've seen that ninety day fiance post and said you just can't say that, and he said. What's the big deal was saying? People's noses are big. I mean Jewish. People have big noses to. Oh, Geez. Oh, see I, didn't know any of this. mean. Funny I'm laughing because search a cluster fight. Yeah, that's. Would someone is such an idiot, and you're like. Wow, the depths like like there is a very dark comedy, and all those like that someone can be such a supreme idiot, and so awful like that's actually kind of wiry laugh at so many of these shows 'cause like she's just like. How can someone be so terrible? You also what I. What I did see as I saw that Lance's husband. People come Turkey because. Turkey or Turkish or Turco, Toco or people Turkey I think or maybe. A Tarzan. That's how he wants to introduce I think. Tarzan his name stars I don't know. His husband basically tweeted out and it was like. Listen we always knew he was an asshole and we were just like really hoping that he wouldn't be an asshole and. And lands basically said. If we're going to go into business together, you have to like. Be asshole any to see some real growth, and we didn't even want to officiate the wedding, but that Jackson Lisa were begging, begging and begging, and since he was already going, he's like okay fine. I'll do it. Blah! Blah! Blah! Blah, so that's another another voice that just went on and on because people were giving him shit like why is it okay? You guys were just officiating his wedding and now to save your own ass. You're out there like Oh. We don't agree won't down with Jackson. He's like no, no, we always knew it. We didn't know all this stuff. Very Least Savannah? Like Dea every woman, the World Das, poor people. It's me Vanda pump sitting on tiny center lear, which is inside the biggest Antalya, which is inside an even biggest. Now listen. It's come to my attention that people who once worked for me might have done something bad. Which I knew nothing about it I. Know I did it's like Lisa. You gave starchy your lawyers to use against faith. What are you talking about Sean just Barra. My lawyers on the way out darling for that thing I know nothing. Kidding I own civil restaurants where the meal may not be occasional magic trick, but boom on right behind you now, but I'm still apologizing and here's what I had to say. We have many restaurants with many employees, and there are many many diverse people. There are some people who watch some people are. A little bit less wide, and some people have records, but the point is this. We have many people of many different colors at restaurants, and what you're seeing juice to fraction of our employees, so what I'm saying is we only want why people on my show? Pretty Right I. Mean that's pretty much our. It was. It was very ridiculous. It's like well I only just found out. That Jack's even working in my restaurants. That kind of bullshit apology so that that happened. Then Lance You know a few days or a couple of days. I don't even know when this interview happened really I. Find All my news at the best news source facebook groups. He he came out and said Oh. Yeah, we've I guess on the PODCAST. He said we've gotten rid of Jack's. He's no longer part of the company stepped down which I'm sure that everybody was really worried about your just add jacks or whatever the fuck. Businesses. Wasn't repacked sale Seattle's just dying to know what's going to happen to just add X.. Yes, all all. Their sales went from seven to four, so they really had changed things up. Yes, and so he said we got rid of him. And then Jacks comes out on e. the next day em line, and he's like what no. I'm still part of the company I. Don't know what they're talking about, so I thought that Jack's news to me. I thought Jackson, said no I volunteer. Step down because of all the attention. Sorry, I'm trying to fix all my like strange Brett tendrils that I like summoned by mentioning my hair in the back of like fully carrying out, but. I thought Jackson and Lance Bass was saying something like we told him Yes to go away, and then Jacks Jackson take on, it was more of. Like a heroic martyr of like well with everything, going on I thought I would just step away because I. Don't WanNa, hurt the business, Yada Yada Yada which of course jacks would would give himself that kind of. That kind of edit if that makes sense, yes, and no one has asked about beer cheese yet. Which is really what I'm talking about where you're always people who've asked about your cheese have been us. We're the only two people ask about the beer cheese, and that was the one question when he crashed our show. It's out by south, West that was the one question that got him mad. When I think I, think said like. I said like what's going on with. The beer. Cheese is like man like why guys always out trying to get me. People always trying to get think you said you're making beer cheese and I want to know where the beer cheese is. He also got mad when we made fun of his hockey. Maybe. That's got a man. Maybe that's what it was. Not the beer cheese. Well, the point is this tax is terrible and by the way, if just in case, you know you listen. Bid Up up. Rules isn't the only place you have to go to. If you want to see a little bit of racism, you can also go to blow. Deck Med breaking news my hours ago. Peter From Below Deck Med. Fire. Unit. He's barely even been bravo. He got fired for posting something extraordinarily racist it's actually horrifying I. I actually I was like what did he posed? What this idiot post and I saw it actually like sickened me on his story, so this wasn't even something that was on earth eight years ago. As far as I can tell, it looked like something posted to a story, it was so terrible. It's not even worth even bearing where it was, it was a stupid mean that he posted and Just getting so. was, giving him shit about an on twitter. Like what the FUCK DUDE! Why would you post something like that? And he's like would I've is bondage, you know. People of many races Le are into bondage and sexual and trust me. I get very sexual with every race. Oh, you fucking! Thing So Bravo basically said We are going to be re editing. The second half of a below deck mad to like minimize his appearance, and they are so like on behalf of the editors also. Well mostly like the racism is terrible, but then like these poor editors now have to like fuck in work overtime to fix all this shit. The all the story lines are probably GONNA. Give me up because dumb ass and you know I mean I'm. I'm acting like this is the worst part of this this whole thing, but like fuck you unit about that. Let's just say that just disgusting. There's GonNa. Be a lot of brief flair for sale I'll tell you that they're going to need a lot of ex. Working Editors going to be a lot of flair on these shows just briefly share. We need that brief flare to come on, and so I think that's. Pretty much all racist and problematic stuff in the Bravo universe. For today. John Luther. It actually doesn't even, but you know what we'll just leave it at there is there more. Are there more people? Oh, now now there's rumors that brandy from real housewives. The Dallas got fired. She got fired there. There's rumors that Kelly's gotten fired. She says. But we we'll see. Camera Barney's I guess at fire hat back ads. And so we'll see it's. Everybody's on the chopping block at the moment over there. It's a it's a bloodbath America. Kids over there Bravo I'll tell you that much. Rob You're out, fix along. Loop seal well. Now, we have you know. Benefit rules out three vander pump rules. The end of Andhra pump rules as we know so here we are for reunion part three Everybody's coming back from being at least doing a me. Up and and he's like is why is Tom Sandovol not here? We too many minutes to. Look. So some finally Tom Comes back from his break and. And Hey all summer long stuff is cars and Bush to get engaged, although sent bow to an early grave. Get it 'cause grave sort of runs with engage you think about there's both a long a grave. That he gave himself that proud mob. Proud cockeyed smile and the odds like wow, you got the as sound in two words congratulate. Look, so then we saw a montage of Sassy nagging Bo for a ring so really one of the more insufferable sausage montages. We've seen a best thing about this. Whole Montage was the Dixon zoomed format? So we saw so many people stay watching it and Britney is just furious if hilarious like. Notice, it need just sitting there like. Just so mad about smiling. Glimpse Act She mad because stathis engagement storyline like infringed on her. Now wait until I. Really got short shrift was Lala. Her engagement is like barely acknowledged except for when she says my fiancee, but like she's not getting any sort of. Wedding fiance kind of loved ones from the producers, and by the way I say, thank you, thank you very much. Yeah good. So everyone's laughing and stuff like Oh. My God this is like a Sal. Area seeing. And she's like I. will say this. She does her karate chop in the camera. I will say this. She met or women wanting to get engaged. Not Make the person engine hot. Try to surprise them out. Karate the camera all you do not give a fuck about people getting engaged case, stop it. Stop putting it on television I'm offended. Yeah, literally do not care if you are like if like wanting to get engaged, is not a personality. Okay, so like I'm not I'm like I. Don't care if you're waiting. If you're sitting there waiting for the ring I'm like. Does, it literally is I would rather watch badger juvenile. During an aerial yoga class watt all surrounded by. Riot hard. Like I literally do not care if the question is not been pop to you yet, like literally just like. Tell me when it's happened. I'll be there. I'll be there for the for the moment. I'm okay if you say I hope we get engaged. I hope he pops the question and I'm even I'm even there for you. I'm even okay with a story line. That's like. Should I stay or leave. Because what's the point of me? Putting in at this person's already, but I don't care about is. Are you gonNA, pose are propose when you GONNA propose. Where's my ring? Whereas my rank, whereas my ring like I, don't care about any of it. Okay, none of it, I don't these are just basic things we all do. It's like people who have weeklong birthdays. Fuck that fuck you. It's like people who are like. Hey, guess what it's quarantine time, but my kids graduating from high school, so let's all drive around the house for two hours, so we can say hi in a fun way that only we're going to give you your arm germs. Okay, it's like I. I. Just want to pass by with empty diet coke cans and throw with the kids like me. So then we get another montage of SAUCIER MBO fighting about. Getting engaged because they get the first montage was wears the ring and the second one was. Are, you going to pop the question and so so Andy's asking why saucy was crying so much that one? There was like that one dinner that we were supposed to care about where they went out to dinner and she thought she. She thought that boat was gonNA propose, and then he didn't and so. She like lost her mind. The Wall it's because he had a mike pack in his pocket, and just like a ring box Mike Packs. Do not look like ring boxes. Okay now you're just seeing things wherever you go. Yeah, but that's just pure lunacy. Is Rectangular as well. Did you think that was a ring? Picking any kind of rectangle or thing. I went to the supermarket, and there was an entire sack of wedding rings like those were sardine-tin. This now I'm pretty sure wedding rings. So Tom Schwartz is like. Oh, so what sexier appeanas bowls or ring bulls well? Tom You live at urine, Must Hollywood. You should know that sometimes. A ring bulge can be a penis bulge. Warren Jackson case it was. I really have his ring in his penis as we saw. So, and it's like Christie. And Carter said Carter told Bo that he needed to thank you for setting them up. You agree and she's like Oh my God. No I. DON'T AGREE WITH CARTER Like resent every seen after that. was you cheering on Carter and being like yes, Carter? Stopped trying to kiss their ass. They don't want to be your just stop. Okay, got exactly losses, your pathetic point and sauces like but you were defending him in every interview did up to this moment, but I do appreciate you saying no right now sell Chris. Always was that he was defending me and like I, don't respect. And she tries to say something and Lollygag. Now just leave it at you. Don't support Carter just like Noah. I. Don't I don't even know. I stand on the stupidest. You but I do know one thing. I don't want to hear your voice on it like I really don't care what you have to say. Right now I am out. Suppliday went off about crop tops while she was wearing a crop top dress. La La I feel betrayed by you because you were supposed to be our hero and you've turned into this. For you, we were all rooting for you so any like well lead the you share had your share of unruly bartenders and defiant waitresses, and by unruly defiant. I Made Racist. This year was here. Turn managed the managers themselves So, then we see a montage of Max and Danika. and Andy's like lease. Love sure you wouldn't continue to employ Max Danika if they weren't good at their jobs, so we'll take some good managers. Andy just won't do say I. Only just found out we had managers, and if I'd realized this I would've Ottoman long time ago. I had no idea that was a thing. Cold Sexual Harassment Anti. Bloom my. Aimed when I. Came out and I want to assume every dog in the world I will not let one of my managers try and stick his stinky inside of youth. Thank you. I thought Danika was the name of new blend thought it was a brand names when they said data is acting up. I said, get a new blend. We can't go another night without pureed. Beat seep, and then she but for real guys. She's the thing that makes special, is it? He puts him serve many hours now. Would I prefer that he wasn't banking staff of rules, but with Danika, the thing is he needs to grow up and soft and opposite. Just get so black and white, and being just gets it wrong over there. You know I mean. You're yelling at Danika Max's the one fucking everybody into restaurant causing appro. How's that? Okay? Yeah, it is! You don't have a central HR unit there but. no, it's totally fucked up because first of all when she's like well, he's the reason why he's such. A good manager is because he puts in so many hours, and he's also a great bartender. Who can step in whenever? Wow I. Wonder like is that like Those rare skills in l., A. Mac, the only one who is capable of putting an hours and mixing A. It just feels like such a cop out. She's with the staff loves him okay I'll give a little bit of that, but of course it seemed like the staff is like also sleeps with him and by the scenes with him. To the staff and when she's like now, when do I wish he wouldn't sleep with the staff? Yes. You are the boss you say. Do Not Sleep with the staff. It's as simple as that you write a memo and say there shall be no sleeping with the staff. These are your employees, and you are opening us up to liabilities by sleeping with the staff. Let alone the fact that it's also just like fucked up. I mean that is basically sexual harassment well not. Even with two ending adults, it's just it's fucked up because that's a workplace and it always ends badly. Yeah and this show. It's a little weird, because everybody fucks each other on the show. That's what shows about, but they're not working with each other now I. Guess You could make the argument that peters hooked up with people before or whatever but. I mean the thing is this I mean it's sort of? It's sort of also an unfair question in a weird way at Ashley. Because basically Max is, they are not because he's a great manager. He's there because he's a character shown seats with everyone, and so it's basically A. it's like a soap opera, right? So now Lisa has to pretend like there's a real like administrative reason why he's there, which is like though she probably is like because he's people, find him good looking. Then he sleeps with people in grits. Drama like that's really what the answer is. Getting on him, she's like getting on him and you know okay. The reason is like causes drama and he's supposed to do that, but then it's a problem with Danika. Every time problem with the guy. She attacks the woman. You know we're used to seeing that sadly enough for men all the time, but when it's the woman, it's like come on Lisa every single time. You're going to take the guy's side every single time this whole. FUCKING WELL EPISODE Yeah exactly I mean the issue of Danika is that she she messed up an order, but that table one time and she pushed Brett Willis. She hands on bread, wheelies and UM. Basically she said that Bradley Savannah Pump had bought for each other. That's really the problem for release. That's where she goes next. She's like 'cause raquel sticks up. I? She's like. Is All said it manager in the world. She knows table numbers and leases like listen I think she's been downright rude and look I hate to make this personal, but I do have a personal issue when she's going on national television saying I'm having an affair with Brad. Now that pisses me off. Your the one joking about fucking Brat in every episode that you see him. You're the one about the joke that he's so hot and you WANNA Fuck Brat. He wants to fuck you. What are you even talking about? So then? We see the clip of Danika doing this on the after show and she did not say that they. Say They were having an affair? She said like she's grossed out by the fact that they're trying to do this I'm like mother, son kind of thing because they're both hot and both probably fantasize about each other, which is a very different thing. It's actually A. Cheeky comment that sort of cheek comment at least Vanderbilt makes left and right about everyone and everything under the sun, but it clearly hit a nerve by the way because Leeza has never been bothered by. I have children I have a husband. Bouffy Slough Cheeky Diamonds Roseanne. Hanky panky cotton on. Ballerina raccoons! We're very hurt by watching Vata. We I also have Richardson that is a reference to someone who was not why two is sort of on the show a little bit once every three seasons so Chris like Donegal oh. You're lucky that you have a job. Because like all I was manager Cadet Oh. By the way I'm just like imagining right now i. just had this vision of Pandora watching Dana's interview and being like. Me You're having an affair with Pratt mummy. Just like it'll cloak little lantern, coming into the just comes into the room with a little lantern through the fog. I had something to other mummy. Dora, she's like Yeah, all I did was one manager to second Dick and then Jackson. Jackson is trying to pipe it and like. I got married. And, 'cause like I'm Lisa I'm lying. Sorry like that. But, like obviously, I know you're not my fucking. Brat but like surf that came out the wrong way I. Guess I'm also my nose. My muscles are completely collapsing during the course of this WHO. Really came out the wrong way. Knows Holzer her like this by this point. Completely collapsed okay, this is why people start injecting things. Are even breathing. Structural integrity ever nostrils has come under review. So at least has. Definitely came out the wrong way. Thank you very much I've been married for thirty seven years. I have two children. One really another. That's a busboy. Why took under my wing? And then there's also cedric who was my child at one point, but anyway I don't need to hear that. Spoof E. G.. O.! Diamonds Rouge. Ted Demand Camp she'd been made me. It's time for commercial. It's time for CRAP INS comedy show. 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I, Apologize Lisa in Tom but like like I just like I felt backs out because like I mean I didn't know like I. I didn't know why you didn't Mike Meals. A sudden like you're like always like hooking me up with your friends I was like who what exit signing you're looking at right now. There's literally nobody in your house dude he was like. Hat's just looking around like thing. Yet. That's why he was mad Danika. Because, you were like hooking me up with your friends. I just thought I, felt backstabbers, Brett, and Max. Do, a really good job of just painting themselves as these poor guys who've just been the victim of women because down 'cause like Ya know I'm annoyed because what happens. Is You fucked these girls? And then I'm working with them. And then they are complaining the entire time, and like it's like annoying we now, and he's like I'm still talk to them this to this day. Well not so much talk to them, but we like follow each other instagram, which is the same talking so i? Don't see your point. Yeah, she's like. Well, she says that and he's like well. That's not true and like you're the one like hooks me up with girls, and then like you get out of me like it's like going to the bar, and then getting me saw mean like Brett. Do you want a shot and then I take the shot, and then you call me an alcoholic because I took the shot. But guess what. If you're alcoholic and you took the shot somebody offered you. You're still in alcoholics like you're not magically not an alcoholic for that shot, yeah! Exactly it's called. Use judgment like you can have standards for yourself. You can say you know this. Is Robin a good idea for me to sleep with this girl? Because there are a million girls in Los Angeles, a million outside of Sir and the the whole vander pump empire and then. You know who's been standing up for Jackson hole time so I guess we shouldn't really be surprised by this answer. She goes dental, or do you have a problem? Because like I? Think that you wanna Fuck Max and that's all I. Hear from you right now as you want. To be fair, I also hear a bird version of Morrissey seminal hit the more you ignore me for call. Kakaako call Cuckoo Cuckoo, call anyone else no. uh-huh, getting pretty dramatic in here. Call Kakaako! Call Call Call Call Call! Call, call, call call. Cow. Fickle coca-coca could talk car. Cook. Could call. Sorry. That was my weird version of electric slide by a bird Gog. Gaga all right. Now Stop. coca-cola Cook Cook. Cook Coca coca-cola Cook Hey Nervosa. macaca mccaw. A little bit of Cocco on the side, a little bit of Cock Oma mud a little bit of cock. Is that he wants to listening to me. You Cook on number five, so the dogs are barking of course because it's Jackson Britney Morons don't know how to put their dogs in the bathroom like everybody else K.. Tax You guys chill. And Bogus guys. Why don't you just like the dogs in a room and Brittany's? Can here you? God they are like this is actually the thing that may have piss me off the most about them. Over the overall three episodes was indignant like behavior attitude over the handling the dogs, because clearly they've all been told to get. To like to put there to take care of their dogs and the fact that they won't and that they are like now matt other people. I'm like this represents everything with them brings like. Yeah, we can hair you and Jackson. It's just going to happen when you have dogs. Just GonNa happen like. Put Your dogs in a cage in a room anywhere in a basement and the not in the car, but like somewhere and their long they are. It's like if you start to McDonald's monopoly board. supersize every day. What are you GonNa? Do just let your does your board. Well and then Brittany Goes I. Don't understand what this meant. She goes well. The equipment is going bad. The equipment's going bad what I don't know. It's like well. Listen, we do have dogs. Okay, and we're supposed to get a babysitter and say we'll. There's also a pandemic going on and I don't want my dog. Actually like people just don't want. To ask. Please I'm feeling I feel Jackson as the first person I. If you go through Jackson Social Media I'm sure he has tweets about. Let's open up this country. Let's country he'd be the first one 'til like us. An excuse you. Finally, he acted. He had a tweet. It was like Oh, after he was trying to be LMS for like two days or whatever he had a tweet that was like Oh, so we all have to stay in, but it's okay to protest. I guess that's the number told me about that. So and he's like well. Listen guys guys I'd love to fight about your dog some more, but I really love to pave it to slash aiming senile cake. Absolutely Fun All right. Let's just music video, James. You're no stranger to terrible youtube. Youtube produced music videos. So think about that and he's like well honestly and they thought it was pretty own. Pretty, Raunchy and the. Monks on man. A really needed on rig needed more blue paint being thrown on her face. Okay, how about just like big streams of pain just falling on her boy? That's how you do a music video unday Mino fucking James over there shooting music videos with La. La. WHO'S GONNA tone? So Andy like Brad you said that Shema violated you. Let's go with the she shoe again because I was fun discussion and he's like Okay I. Get it. That was dramatic. It's what I actually meant to say. was and she accustomed off and. On your. Arm! You don't want to. Explain our guy stopping such a better. No probably. Probably, not the best up tactic to take. I think one thing that we're learning is that we're not blaming the quote. Unquote victims wherever we're not saying you should've spoken up. As much is a victim. Address say! I'm not saying that bread is a victim, but I'm just saying. She knows correct. Take I think she should just. I think you just lean to the fact? That bread is TV it's because he is. He is fully to face. And Jackson's like. I came downstairs and I heard something about a blowjob La. She offered a blowjob and he said. Who Does that? Who does that I mean whenever I go. Whenever I go to orange theory I mean like I know I never get blow jobs at the gym. Never ever ever so Anyway, go on question. Yuccas Atkins Jackson's thing is that he never watches the show, which is such a lie because you know that he watches that said like twenty times an episode. Yay Twenty up. He watches every episode Twenty Times so anyway. She knows like Air Wise. I jaw okay. La La makes those jokes like what she's really going to give him a blow job for a Range Rover yes. Yes? She's given so many fucking blowjobs. She's in a mansion right now in the hills. Yes, he. Gave a blow job for a ranger over. That wasn't a joke. This is not a good argument. This. Do you see where she is broadcasting from? Okay? Do you see it this? You want to use la La as corroborating witnesses in Okay Sina. Yeah never never never tried to emulate Lalas behavior. Okay? How about that? Well so I was just trying to be plenty I'm thinking like how am I going to pay you money? Okay, like a girlfriend status or money or like I. Don't know like. Maybe we'll get married sometime because he's connection or money. You know something like that, but she. You did like bread to do thought that. You could get together well I mean. I'm just saying that we might clip. Actor now and then we see a clip of Sina starting to cry where she's like, but matter Bob I don't want to be made him I. Really don't. Don't like sure he's nice and everything I really like him like he's great, my. Horse stable like I opted not worse than like Seriously I don't want Arou-. She's like. Just, like wanted him to be like a friend and like I'm like a floaty person. I'm single and like anyone who knows me knows that I'm also like good comedy, and so one of my favorite bits is the be like I'm GonNa, blow, job or money or something, which is like a classic, so it's just like a law is like a lot right now and breath. See Oh. The camera winking himself Andy Es. Charlie's like so jolly just so quickly on your date with Bradlow that allow and she's like a and jacks goes because he doesn't belong to sugar. DADDY DOT COM. That's why. You're the one who's friends Lala. You're the one I was like rumored to literally have been. A horde acts like. Give me a break I like. Are you seriously gonNA come after somebody jerk? Charlie's basically like i. just felt like weird, because like the whole sheet I knew about the situation. She knows like one of the few people who would like my to me so. When I like went on that brand I just like too much, so I took myself out of that situation. He starts shit talking Sheena. Like that's what Brett did on that day all he wanted was like trying seen in trouble. He always does that, so Brett's like well. This is what and then the line of saying this is. Why can't have friends that are girls? Because you? You guys like you take you take things to another level day. I realized that Brett shares a lot of. DNA with Carl from Summer House like that like that very like trying to himself as this Nice Guy, who's just being honest. And sounds like the victim to these crazy women, who toy with his heart and emotions, when he just trying to bare his soul to them, you know he's like trying to get people like he flirts with people to try and get them to like him, and then he acts like they're crazy for. He's asked leaving them basically now he's trying to make. That yes, that is an amazing term. So. Charlie I can just go home and writing in your diary then whatever? I mean Charlie is amazing, so then where she Brennan now well up until I saw the last three episodes. He's at darn quarrel. I'm going to be so for up. Your astronaut arena apology. That, you're going to be like so happy like when I take back everything I sad so I'm just sort of like sitting. Here are still waiting. I don't know do I. Have to give them like a job or something for him to say at this job. So, he laughs. He's like. He loves in away like Oh senior. You're so full of Shit, but then he goes. Yes I. Did say that because in the moment I felt bad, but you know like it doesn't just because I'm not saying that now. It doesn't mean that I felt that way in the moment and Malo clowns all palms. which is not necessarily wrong, but the fact that she indeed herself looks like a circus clown at this moment doesn't help, but she. Just Had trying to. Not Trying to genetic shame her just the fillers. She has cloud fillers clouds if clowns were to get fillers. Clowns were to get fillers. They would look like that. They're getting bigger by the second I'm telling you. They're growing during this reunion by going to have to clown feet. You know those like she's Redfin. She's going to be sending red balloons. All these people in the Cath and we'll be careful so. You. Look Down Storm Gutter and there's Lalla. Hey, she shoe! Ah! DIST- ruin your life with Innuendo changes. Really it really does so. Brat is like Oh senior okay I'm sorry for making you think that I wanted something even when I made it as clear as possible to anyone who would listen that I didn't which? Is Brad. It's not how bad he's. He's making every article I'm sorry you're so in love with me okay. Yeah. Sorry! Sorry that I misled you. Even though any idiot could tell. I was being perfectly clear and not misleading. It was so you're not apologizing and you're framing yourself to somehow be this like this guy who so valiant and noble who people can't help, but like misunderstand. When you did say to her that you were going to apologize left and right, and now you're walking it back, but somehow to saying like sorry. For misleading, not apologizing for being dishonest, and she's like, but here's the thing I want you to apologize for his. You're saying one thing to my face and then behind my back. You're saying all this other stuff and he's like Oh. Okay? We'll look I'm sorry if I. Gave You the wrong impression, and do you live to only fuck me? Okay? I'm sorry about hot I'm sorry. Dick Mataya. And, he also says you're you're you're so defensive about it? which is like like major major sliding right there? Yeah, so Areana. Who's still the drunk queen on a bar with a Martini you know like host and carry. Hair. Life She's like Oh. Really well listen. It's not sorry for the wrong impression. Say sorry for say one thing to her face, and then something else on her back, and he's like, but I don't believe I did that area. She's all right then. You'RE NOT GONNA. Apologizing that's that. Van Orient I I apologize I apologize. That sheena misled you to believe that I was being to face. So you know even though I clearly wasn't being that way. Yeah, so then we asked Gary on about her depression and she's like I'm going to. But y'all still sucks. Depression side in custody Christian space and she's doing prayer hands I noticed that, too. She's like supporting your hand over. A hand Maggi pray hand emoji. seriously. She's like. I'm feeling fear depression also Hashtag blessed. That's it. Actually the real news year is that I caught a fly between my hands, and I'm just waiting for the right moment to let it free, so you guys can all see it as a moment of my blossoming person personality. All the flies free. So next stop Andy is like wow Britain jacks might of Anna Fairytale wedding. But when they came home, she realized Zach left dollars very persona back at verse sales. You're that right brewers sales. OUCH, Ouch! Wow, that's an embarrassing name for a castle. All just mentioned enver sales you got married in a fake castle with mispronounce names, so your from here in the clips of Jackson. Just being a fucking monster rage texting. texting everybody you know slut shaming kristen for having a sex video and trying to bring that on camera when he's the innocent one is like. How could you try and make me look bad on camera? I mean just hypocrite. Hypocrites sought after Hypocrite Jackson. Basically yeah, we get the shot. That was my favorite of Brittany's through the season. Because I've just wanted her to admit this this entire time when she said well. Know when he was that person, so they'll have to deal with it. That's right. You fucking do am I. Hope he just listened to that clip over and over 'cause the feelings are if you ain't gonNA happen sister. And during this entire montage of Jackson's being terrible, Britney's try to. Laugh like crazy. Look at all those antics of Jack's well America sweep couple well, what could be a well on my goodness? Gracious? Yoga your guy. You're cool guy. And then the clip of him being like. My brain. It's like sprained. Like I've got US rain rain, okay like. Problems like he can't be mean to. People have mental problems. Like. How am I supposed to stay? Stay with my wife when I'm just going crazy, just crazy. And comes back and bring us shoe. She, you and Andy. Jacks seemed to spiral at the end of every summer, and he's like well. Good now I'm good now you know the the the downfall at the end of the summer Andy! Like incredibly working on myself, Andy and he's like how how are you working on yourself and he goes. Well. You know like I work on it. You know like wings. and Coke and random holes in the general vicinity of the gym that. Helping I'm working out and we're. Just trying to be a better person. That's all just trying to just trying to be a better person, which is like so like vague. Unspecific easy rhetoric to throw it someone to deflect away and Ariana's like Can we move onto a different subjects? We don't spend the last forty five minutes. Does reunion on the stupid thing brings like? Even though Jack, and then, of course, the other thing that happens a lot is that Britney will start saying something, and then jacks like jumps on socially I live yeah. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Don't be. Rude, yeah there. That's a terrible couple at a kid sports game. There's always that terrible couple. WHO's like the other team? Know, they're the couple were like the rules. Don't apply to them. Which is why their dogs were our everyone else in the cast like this has a dogs. By the way in case you didn't notice lease of anti-trump literally has the entire population of Idaho's dogs in her living room, and she. Even she found ways. She's rich. She could start more pretty easily. I mean so somewhere. In the basement with a sea of dogs, just trying to like keep them all quiet, but but the point is as everyone found a way to keep the dogs quiet except for them, right, it's like oh well, we just can't you know the rules? Don't apply to them, and it's probably Jack leading that charge then. Brittany just is like a blind defender to his bad behavior despite what she said so. My Dogs I love it. I am so no because. I get really triggered by sanctimonious dog owners I'm sorry, everyone. We all know it doesn't mean that dogs are bad. It doesn't mean that dog owners are Bat I'm saying sanctimonious dog owners, the ones who were like well I know my dog is good, so it doesn't have to be on a leash I know my dog would never do. This is not a problem. I've told the story many times many many times that one time I went to a dinner party, and this guy was talking about his dog, and I just ask theoretically like. I was curious. If your dog over tax them on. What would what would happen well? My dog would never attack anyone I was like. No, I'm just saying like directly. What would you have to do and he goes well? My dog wouldn't attack anyone, so it's not even an issue. Well. What sort of dog do he goes? He goes half pit, bull, half, Wolf, and I was like I'm done I'm done I'm not gonNA. I'M NOT GONNA deal with this. So that's what they they remind you that like that. Of. People who think the rules don't apply to them and then get mad at everyone else for being like annoyed at them. We'll have been makes you feel better. People like that. Get a lot better when they have children. Children a well, that's true. We I think we all know that chiltern fix everything's yeah. They fixed. Guys get my parents. They're just thrilled to be alive and together so anyway. Ariana's like. Yeah, this is the same shit. Carry on. It's in a different place today I've just thrilling up, you know. Martini in my mind like this is just the same shit as every other reunion like work in progress work in progress. Blah Blah Blah. And then we get some good briefly are here I? Don't know I. Don't whichever editor did this? If bree if this was your parting gift to Vanda pump rules God, bless, because then we get a montage of every single banner pump reunion of Jack's declaring that he's a work in progress every single one so good and taxes so Mavin. That clip is shown. He's like well. Look, I'm going to be a work in progress to my life. Like when he want. I'm Working Progress GEICO FAIRFAX AND Braille you literally contradicted yourself. I'd like to show you. How much in this trumpet sell us a calm down the trumpet? I will tell you how much you contradict yourself right after I'm done going to bother him by. So Jackson's like listen I was around with you. Guys didn't get along. I mean come on, come on Tom. Your friends would come to my house from Saint Louis and stay with me, 'cause you guys didn't get along and he's like. Well not. Criminal Vouch for me. The one I called a compulsive liar in the clip. We just watched. My witness. She's like your actor witness. You know the one about having sex with me for months and areas liaise. For me. seriously then Ariana gets out of a chair and like Jackson's father Jackson. Jackson or she starts doing his dance. She's like I. AM drunk I don't Care Jackson's bother. Folk you you're cool Raquel. Fuck you, so you want to have a real conversation, 'cause you're act like a child. CONGRATS good for you. Suddenly, I like so angry right now like like. I am just like at level fourteen out of ten pretty much because the dog shit so when Bernard. Shaw you act like a child I'll tell you acting like a child your husband at all times. Okay and I. Don't care when she says. I have to take my husband I yell at him on since. The amount I don't believe it I do not believe it. I I believe. Do some token yelling. Somebody can say you yelled, but I do the way that Brittany yells at the other people, but but really gives a pass to Jack's itis something. nope, Nope, nope, I don't care if you yell at him behind the scenes. Who Cares I, don't I? He's an asshole period. The fact that you tied yourself to that you did the. Issues, then Tom is like what you say, you want to be person, but then you start tweeting and tweeting all these fucking lies lies lies on. Everybody's cracking up because Jackson's. Stand on this you know and Ariana. Still like you still want this the last topic the reunion to be around Jackson. He's like Oh because you were so awesome. Just so you're so perfect. You Never Mirror. A. Perfect. Kuka. and Ariana goes. I'm carpet and she starts yelling. Cameron clapping at them like I'm a garbage per se. That's why I'm on this show. This kind of One of the most brutally honest moments in the history of Bravo. So so. How garbage or do you WANNA talk about yourself being garbage. That's fine, but I don't want to hear this hero Shit. You know and he's like. Oh well. This wasn't a few you area on I got married I married now so awful, so hey, Jack! Why are you still pissed at Max's beach? Cleanup Day and Jackson. Andy I woke up and I just wasn't. I would just like in a bad mood and I just didn't feel like driving to Malibu when they're three park right here. That are full of trash full of trash. I'm like just say he didn't WanNA. Go, which is actually. He does ultimately say that. I will give a reluctant to Jack's. He's like this. I DIDN'T WANNA. Go which I. Think is totally fair, but but he's a tra-. twenty-five cars to save the world I mean these perks are full of trash. I'm like okay. Don't act like you have some alternate environmental cause to go along with. You didn't WANNA go. You want to stay home and jerk off and play with Kinsley. On everybody's giving him. Sit about that like come on, Jackson Brittany's like what is the truth? And Crystal. Don't say for the environment I mean. Give me a break and a as well. And I had a good time to. The Blah Blah Blah and she starts like going off on them. It's accessing. Let her he's like it wasn't a bad hand. It wasn't even about Max. Look I I apologize this time. I apologize like five hours after it happened was like a record for me. The might give the fake apology out I. Mean you see it takes like until the reunion? So you're welcome your? And then they cut to footage of like five hours afterwards and just him rage texting everyone again. Don't part of your all disinvited y'all disinvited. Did they even get into. They even get the reunion. Even touch on the rival parties pool parties. I don't think it did no. Oh. Yeah, and yet it didn't end weeks ago. Yeah, I can't even remember and today even owing to talk a little bit about that police prank, but yeah, anyway, so Jackson Jackson Jackson. It's like listen. Listen I. Mean Come on. I'm very good at apologizing. Always apologized like I'm really good at it. He's like. I don't think you really good in apologizing because I've seen you apologize over and over again at reunions and not mean it well I meant it this time. He just gives Andy that evil like I'm GonNa Spank you. If you don't put down the Goddamn boxer fruity pebbles in the store and he said No. Yeah and Jackson's like Andy I mean. Haven't you just like apologized people and just like not meant it just to get by and is like. Not Really. Wasn't that. Jack summed up in one small question. I mean there you go everybody like Jackson James. Yeah. How could he say well this apology? I really meant and NC. Haven't you ever just apologized? Just you can move on like okay so. Thirty! So he's like come on, and the adult believe that and then Brittany's like you know, Oh, points things guy i. don't know what I wrote there I don't know. When, in doubt, just he's a cool guy gu-guy. Right now looks like to apologize, but maybe put some sunglasses on. You'd see your real cool. So Andy has one of his best questions of all time because Britney. Is it daunting to realise you'll have to apologize for Jackson behavior for the rest of your life and she's like it's hard. Listen you can't. The first free Fredonia Frito. Pie. He's already Saudi free, though and he's going to be tough and taxes like listen. Why are you pigeonholing me to be the rest of my life like I mean come on out. No one's perfect, NO BURP! He loves doing that Deflection, but it doesn't even make sense why you pigeonholing meet the rest of my life. I don't think that's the proper use of pigeonholes. Also afraid of all the pigeons whose holds you're going to try to find so andy is like listen. I'm not trying to be an asshole Our eighth reunion and it's the same conversation with just some different people I mean like I don't even have to ask if anyone's had a boob job anymore, because it's just the same shit over and over again. And Jackson like well. You know we're tight group, Abby. Goes Yeah Right. Brittany's like. We just gotta own up for stuff he shouldn't have. Just own up to Jacks and area I'm a work in progress. Around The. Ladies who launch. Jackson I thought I was doing better. Okay, like of course. I'M GONNA. Have some bad days, and then Stacey tries to explain like you are instilling fear in our house and bring me is making a scared of hurting her feelings, so we can't say anything to Brittany and we have to be honest with you. Okay and taxes like well when it comes from you, it's fine and areas like Oh, when it comes from Stasi. It's fine, but anyone else. Yeah. Exactly and by the way like this is another example of. Would anyone be friends with this couple? At this point right? Because he, he operates on a like, his whole Mo is if you say anything against me lead. We're not like like I'm. Like. Reign of terror is gonNA come from me. And then with her. If you say anything against Jacks, it's GonNa be a whole SOB story. I've friends, so you can't like. The point is this. You really shouldn't be in a situation with with two friends. Where are hard truths to say? Like that that you can't say like how about friends class. In, and they do it over and over again and the rest of this reunion, which is hilarious and I love that she spelled it out so clearly ev literally like in the next five minutes. Brittany like turns her head. Decry them and. Turning. Literally, but how about you be friends with people that you don't even have to bother saying mean like saying hard truths to right. How about you just be friends with people who are like nice and cool who you don't have to worry about like how they're going to take your your kind criticism, right? With them I guess, but then the other part of that is like. If you have to be friends, the because you're on TV okay I get that, but don't stand up for him every fucking. You. Know like this reunion. was them like you can't talk like that Charlie. How dare you speak Jack that way, have the. But then they drained like act like they're taking a strong stance later when they're not and they never. Do you know just so hypocritical? I agree so so what was? His reaction to Jack, he has mental problems and he's like well. He obviously does he know he. He got up and down up and down. I mean it's like it's not a fucking last, so please. Let let me hear what you have to say. Please and she. was like well. He probably does have issues and like my best advice to him. Is like find a therapist? Because that's what you do, okay and sandoval like yeah. Well and and he's like well. Listen La La that ran recommended a good double fried chicken sandwich. Tell me where. I heard that ran found. A great therapist named Colonel Sanders. and was like Andy Haden just record. He actually paid for that. La La. I'm having trouble. Hearing you. Your lips are so big. It looks like you're just a little girl in a well at this point, could you? Ask. Those balloons around your lips. Flat and you're actually hovering near a ceiling fan. We want to make sure you're safe, so come on down. Yeah, he didn't struggle. Mama Andy He paid for that, so shunned Jackson. Even show up and Jackson. No, you're my boy jobs. You know you're my boy. Yeah, oh by way there's also talk that Randall stopped following Jack's on Instagram I. Don't know if Oh, yeah, we'll Lila. This is typical to you. Know while it comes an act so nice, but always seen of La La is she will be friends with the most popular person you know. The second th-this people got in trouble. She totally did everybody and it was like I'm calling faith you. You know when the rumor was. She pulled a knife on faith and was saying that she was hiding all this stuff around her house to see if eighth was gonNA. Steal it all of this stuff. When all this shit went down, she immediately called faith in the stops, being friends with everybody Salah. You know she, doesn't she? She's done it all season. That was sort of thing with James. She made up with James and the. She couldn't be nice to James because the girls wouldn't let her, so, she had to like James again you know. Yeah I also feel like if it had been someone else who had like five way for people who didn't actually watch the show what happened was that Randall found a really good therapists allegedly and set up not only set up an appointment for Jacks, but also paid for, and then Jackson show up. Now and then Lalla just like you know you're my boy. You're my boy and I. Love You so much, but like other peop-. What I hate is that lake? She was really rude to someone like Arianna all season long who has always been Ariana and Tom have really been in las corner for like years when people other people weren't. And but now she has put her she's. She's now like a not faith, but she's. She's really gotten behind the Jackson and and for what look. He's an asshole like you. Did something really nice. Randall did something really really nice, believe it or not, but when Jack. fucking, Jackson therapy. He's the highest paid. They shouldn't have to accept the point. Is this like her like her judgment is terrible. Terrible, so see Sandoval is like yeah, 'cause. He doesn't WanNa do shit about it. That's why and he doesn't care and Jackson like. What is Pick Jack Session. I classic and then Britney Justice Dossey told them they were doing and then Brandon I. Don't even love. Their big goal betty okay. Your dime your friends spent like forty five thousand dollars on your ten event wedding. Okay, I think they like you. Love. Lou Economic. Jackson. Must Nice, but like it's my meemaw cocaine me. Mom going to take you. We're GONNA. Go shopping now. GonNa see you. Long. Even live. Living with my. I guess our friends, though even love what part of Randall buying a therapy session for Jackson's not showing love to you. Come on, Joe, maybe take a randall. So. Lalas likes turns red. Turn. Brian Jacks guys are people I Ryder dive. A Brittany like. Puts up like a hair wall. She liked looks away. It's. Like if you if fantastic SAMs models were three d. you know those pictures when you go, get your haircut it a cheap place. Bad highlights like to the side. You know I'm Su-. Want so we're face and she's like. Mom. And Say I. Try not to cry because I like the nothing to Y'all I've done nothing to Ya'll. Guy. Oh God. It's so sandoval. Senegal starts now getting mad, because because Jackson's saying that everyone's make it was dixit me. This is what everyone does making digs to know. It's always at the at the end of the at the end of the at the end of seasons always day. Jack Sticking Oh, man, like we just want to help you. Do you see I'm not even talking about you Tom? I'm talking about like everyone else. Go Oh. It's not Utah Insignificant Okay. IT'S NOT UTAH. You're just a bad friend. Okay, my Tom! Tom! So then Brennan. Does this whole thing the end of the day? That's my husband I'm GonNa. Take up for him and no one notices that they do the same shit sometimes. I'm like you know I think you want to feel like you're taking your some noble cause like you attack you created that noble cause for yourself. It's like me finding a piece of shit on the street. And then someone comes to clean it up and saying listen. No, no, you can't clear way that shit because this is my shit and I have to take up for it. I have to take up for it. It's like. Ben Take up for a different 'cause, not that piece of Shit Industry and also stopped sitting in the streets then. I'm sorry it was Kingsley do all the same things to. Bake and COLLINA. Park rind a pig andy. Mother in. An. Gout a therapy guy. And therapy. I`Ma go person. I'm a garbage person. A person garbage do out the garbage wants me to do. Do you want to hear the coffers of that because I'm got one. Claw Cocoa Cocoa. Cool Cocoa Cocoa Mariposa. Jack. We started therapy last week. which I'm so sir so. Letting macaroni and cheese councils therapy well, not that kind of therapy. It doesn't this house. Watch your mouth. What your dirt! Therapy, not that kind of therapy. So Britney's well I. Do want to execute better a work on it all the time like it's like a piano class. You know maybe just keep. Like I'm always yelling at them and. Goes I hate that for you I hate. I hate that for you. So then. Jackson like Oh, come on like who were Tom area anyway like who cares what town airing thing like? Saddam Schwartz of all people is a little bit of a voice. Of Reason. He's like no jacks. No, this is a good thing It's a good thing like the time I I brought skittles for Baba. So like you've talked about having mental health issues, and we're saying just be more proactive instead of saying instead of doing the same thing over and over again and expecting the same results be proactive I mean I don't know a proactive really means, but I hear it's really cool. It. I'm pro actors. You know I always really like actors. You know what I do when I. Have Problems is I. Start taking walk on the beach and then don't remember what happened for the next twelve hours works every time right papa. which point now? Tom has like three beans at a burst. Identify their entire rooms, just like bloody SPS, you say. Something man, it's exhausting A. I'm I'm racking my brain trying to help you tags. I'm racking my brain and jacks goes I. Don't need any help. I don't even mean. By just had mental issues, okay? On my mental issues, you guys just need help. Two million, so the yelling at each other in that segment, and and then and he's like okay. No one get up and then everybody just gets up. Yeah. So Jackson. I feel like Andy always has something against me I. Don't know what it is. It's like Oh the nurses. The Narcissism Complex rears had yet again and he goes oh Lee. Against you. I got the skin, but is wearing down over the years Ami. Yeah, it's called too much micro derm abrasion from groupon jacks okay. You look like you look like a piece of chicken. This being wrapped up to go okay. Like Stop Stop. So. Kuku I'm sorry, would you say? This is the remnants of Kuku. Yeah, so and he's like my job is a call people out music but I'm the best. I've ever been on the best I've ever been, and then what I have three bad day as three bad days come. I love how he can't keep his story straight like his those the story leading up the wedding is that he's a changed man, and everything is great and I'm the best of the best of me is the best of Jacks, but then his story after the wedding was I'm losing my mind. I can't think I. Want Her people I. Don't know what I'm doing I'm unraveling. Which one is it jacks? Which one is this the best of you or is this? The like I need help. I need to have a work in progress. Andy tells them but I think. The problem is is that you don't watch the show Jackson okay, because there's a disconnect because you don't see what we're seeing and I'm responding to shed. Tapping on the show, you know, what am I supposed to do and he's like. Oh, well if I slip up just a little bit. It's all we talk about. He's like were watched the show. Okay? Yeah, and he's like. Did you see what happened to start seeing Kristen last week? Okay, it's not just you okay. We grill all of you. Sort of well just fired the girls, but not you. He'll get in. That's my boy of saying that Jack Acts like he's the only one who gets shit on this show. Know Y'all get a lot of shit, so stop acting. Jackson already been fired. There is no fucking way. Jacks is coming back to this show. He will be fired right. I think he will be at this point because the the the. I think the momentum online is getting pretty strong. I mean who knows what the shows even coming back. Who knows so andy like? They'll just revamp. Though just have on the. Andrew Pump. So? Yeah so and Islam. Yeah you gotTA. Do you gotTA. Watch it. He's like this is the worst reunion. Ever I'm working progress working progress. So then we have oddly enough as it starts to like. Come into we as we come towards the final stretch we we go to some smaller story things, so we have. Now we talk about Sheena, getting that psychic for Dana for her birthday, when Dan was not emotionally prepared for it at all, and she was like well. As a lot of other people on the show have been on. Hollywood. Miriam having that experience film room was like Song Credible and like I found out like my. Crop tops to and I was like on my vying, and so like I feel like is like sort of selfish in that moment for me, because I was just like assuming that because I had a really amazing spirits that also have amazing experience to, and like we could maybe share like an emotional op together. You know what I'm saying and I liked it dame, actually sick, 'cause my problem with this whole thing was like she knows trying to be nice like she. Still Sina and it was stupid, but an insensitive, but I think that she was coming from a good place, and I didn't like the daynet kind of turned it. You know and using it against her. But I liked this well. First of all data's crying, which when people cry like I'm such a big sucker for that, but also you know her mom has story and wanted so fucking sad but I like that. She said like look honestly I know she meant it in a good way, but it just really put me on the spot. Because I've still really hurt by my mom dying and like I've had to take care of myself. My whole life because my dad is relationship didn't work out so I've been like on my own, and like people think I'm a bitch. Because I've resting bitch face, but it's like active bitch vase like it's all the time you know like it sucks. Being tough as like my only option average pointed spend. Oh. Yeah do I. He has something at the doors. That little delicate rap of A. UVA other broken birdie coming here. I'd like you to meet the rest of your family. G Gish wiki SP- Lou fee, poofy times, Rusi, Koon and cotton. In. Bandy meet your new system. At last. You finally have a sibling. What about Me Ma'am Oh? Yes, Max, do yes. So. It's a sad segment and. An Jacks tries to hijack it. He's like I. Don't know of anyone can see me grind up here, but I'm grind to listen to. This is the only season I got married, but also I lost both my parents like within the span of five minutes. Both my parents! Both, my parents! Know you while you lost one of your parents, which tragic, but you then iced out the other one that was gusting. He is a disgusting monster human, being my God, so kristen I lie Christy, going wish we could argue. I wish like because if we could hug you, we will all be around July one big circle. It would like this. Oh Oh oh! Jackson like listen. You know what lost my parents at the same time. You know it was car accident. Unfortunately, Dodge Challenger. Don't know if any of you heard of that, but a fallen insurance claim on that but you guys. You don't understand the paying guys. No one else understands and and he's like well. I'm curious talking to people about this. Makes you regret all the staff? Your Mom Jacks and Losing time with your mom right now. Don't you realize that basically Yeah Jack? Like yeah, especially now with the virus like I, have no idea on. My mom is like she could be dead in the entry for all Jack's. He's our people not allowed to talk on the phone or email or text. Often an Igloo up in the Arctic circle like like she up and abandoned them, and they're like. Where's mom a wonder? What's happening with mom? She's exactly where you left her like. Don't Alex House my mom doing. I mean it's just a shame that I stopped talking to her like no, you created this situation Jacks. Deal with that. Then you went on national TV in trashed or ask honest and one that will. Mysteries to me on this show, the one of the great cooled cases that I hope we find out about one day is what happened there because I just don't? I've never believed that he's just like she didn't tell me about my dad. Being a sick as he was just doesn't sound right because he wasn't interviews before that saying like his dad was at stage, a high stage or just none of it really i WanNa know what the real fight is because I. think it was about money or some shit you. You know that he didn't get what he wanted and stormed out of there and obviously I don't know but I want to know I wanNA. Know I think it's probably a lot of projected guilt. I would not be surprised if his situation I mean there's I'm sure she's not great. either. By the way she did rear this monster. You know yeah, but mortified by it. Because when we saw her on the show like was like Oh. God Jax, you know. At least it's like. Aren't you embarrassed and she's like us. But that, but that being said I would not be surprised if he was like if he called her, and it was like actually come visit dad public. If you want to you, can whatever data I wouldn't be surprised. If like she did not, if she did not say, you must right now, let's say and then he didn't go and so now he feels really guilty that he didn't go and and he's now blaming her, and it's like You can't blame like your mom for that. Necessarily I just feel like there's is not the story that Jack's telling us there's. Back to one another railway. So and he's like well. That was switchgears gears right Ariana. How did you feel when you saw? Was La la talking about your house, and not Stasi after all of that, and that was. Thank God he. I'm thank, God. That's all I needed, but I didn't need that question answered so I'm glad yeah. Yeah Saas like I have a bone to fucking pick with everyone in this situation Sheena. How could you be so messy? I guess that's on brand for you also. And she's like well. I direct quota the wrong person and I swear you chimed, but I'm so sorry Stasi Brett's like hey. I just want to apologize for misleading Sheena into giving the wrong quote like even though I told her the right quote words, but she's just like in love with me so I apologize for making your fall in love with me and I'm married. And stuff like yeah, well, you can say I'm Regina George. That's true and you can say that I'm bad credits doc- because that's been true as well but to say it so easily. It's like you're just like waiting to get it out like I like you. What is it? How many years is it going to take for you to understand that I like you? starseed's ongoing desire for areas. Approval is the gift that keeps on giving, or was it that kept on giving loops so around has like. I lost it I sound I. sounded like a psycho I get it, but also garbage person. That's what I am. Thin Gimme a G. Give me an don't anymore. Letters because I just wanted to get. She's still doesn't get put on the spot about it. Yes, she doesn't really bothered me, yeah! Yeah. But. Then we go to Senegal group taxed everybody like a ranch joke about marrying rants, setup, O or whatever. And Jacks. Like what does it say? What does it say like? You can't look at this because you refused to group? Fuck you. You don't know what it is. Yeah, and so now we start talking about the Dana Maximum Brad triangles like. Are we really ending this reunion? On this note? Maybe they thought. They would end on this note 'cause they're going to pivot towards them next season. I don't know about two three of the trailer gone so so chain hard. Yes, so, why does Max view like? He has a say in Dana, hooks up with Max like. Well at the time like Britain terrible like he was becoming the Sandovol to my Schwartz like. Oh man, you willingly give Schwartz. That's sad. That is sad and it's also really try hard to be like. We're the next time and Tom like no, you're not. Virat fired yes. Fired and fired both like but Max. You didn't even seem to be fully into the relationship anyway Denka. And the way that you talked about it like Oh if I fuck her, would you be mad if I par like honey? This is dual partnership so if she chooses to have sex with you. Okay, that's what it's all about. Okay, all about mine. Nationals have their inverted. Okay, Hey, adverted. So. Yeah, Brett Cyclo. Listen I was just I had to consider. My feelings are I and I think Max Branch. Day, and Lisa says cheers to that. Brett's like breath. I asked Max I asked maximum. But you weren't Iraq that was the thing you weren't direct. which is so true like and that's breads whole thing that he never he always acts like he's being super honest. He's actually never upfront with how he feels or what he thinks what he says. So. So there I know. I'm so sorry. I'm like totally bowing out of the section I think it's just such crap. This all such a lie and Dana Basically Brent the Andy asked about Brian, Donna's relationship breath like well. We were together, but then I realized like Dina's. She was just a little, too in the meander moving a little. Too fast. I didn't need to shoot with her anymore. You know so Dana. That's bullshit. I dumped you because you said that, and it was ridiculous like we were seeing each other like a couple of times a week, and then I was like WanNa. Go to a movie, and then you're like well. This is moving too fast, so I bumped you. Yeah! He goes so I was being honest with you. I was being honest. Oh shut up. You weren't being honest because if you were if you had been honest all along then. You like you wouldn't have made her. Like. If you've been honest all along. She would have no exactly the sort of pace that you allegedly wanted to be at and probably would not have even bother, but you wanted to get some action, so you supper there a few times and then when she wanted to. See a movie instead of sleeping with asthma, it's gone too fast fast. Lame, so then we get to the finale party where Danika got in a fight and got kicked out. Over thirsty, thirsty, little SHEENA, twin, and everybody's basically cheering her on except van trump, of course who has nothing to say about anything else that just happened is just when it comes back to Danika sick, but lack Ford someone on the floors explosive as you are. Going to have to talk about that going forward, missy. Yes, she's like when your in hospitality Danika. You really going to check yourself because I cannot have a loose cannon on the floor I might. Did you not see La last season? Who Cursed? Outpour Raquel called the seaward, and like honestly, if if they were still maintaining the is that Lala did not have a sugar, daddy was not living in the hills. You would be a hostess again this season come on and I wish they would have asked Annika. Getting kicked out of the season Premiere Party because she got kicked out of that to you. Didn't see the I think. I think there were police there with her. That got kicked Oh yeah I heard about that. I think she got arrested or something at the season. Premiere Party so I. Don't know I'm not sure if that happens to don't sue me. Okay, it's just stuff i. read on the Internet. Okay, so then we move onto James's apology to Fatman. Fat Mine Fatman. Fact. He's a big man. He's A. Mom with. Face in the fat body because he's thought man yeah good. I just love it. They're like James Let's watch your apology clip. His mom, that's why. Say, so how's your relationship with Randall? been he's. It's been really great. I mean ever since apologize about thought man. He's been really treated me like a skinny man me really wonderful. I don't see any evidence of him being fatman anymore physically. You know what I'm sayin I. Don't call them Fatman anymore and now it's called mime. Really, push, La back into my life, so we have to be thankful for that and lawless, like I thought it was just like amazing Justice James Growth and my fiance's just like the most amazing man of ever met in my life. What a waste of Space Jesus Christ so final where it's kristen to miss your friendship. Does anybody still care and then kristen polls are like Oh. Of course I am a monumental moment. About America all Ooh. Do I wish I could have shared relationship with Alex with him? Yes, do I wish I could have shared my house with him. Yes, do I wish I could have shown them that time. That I got some peanut butter and it was crunchy. Creamy I was like Oh. Yes. And Creek Katie's just so bored Katie has not. This is like the best reunion episode with Katie never saying one thing, and this is like my favorite thing, not one damn word came advocating. Taking my notes so then Andrew Punk is a speech about how we've been through so much as in the world as a country, and she really wants people to have the same co he's in. We had going into this. I have to say I only recently found out that there was a pandemic. No one told me, but now that I know I would say it's unacceptable and we have to spend our time appreciating each other. And acts like yeah. I'm good with how things are you? Whatever I'm good without things are. Actually open if Jackson Tom Hung out together, both be good, but the had talked is whole time Andy. Here's It's all your say what are you? What are you watching the good wife in quarantine? Gang. I've been watching. Perry Mason so she's like. Jacks have this quiet moment where she's like she's like. Don't get so angry at me. Josh Excellent Guitar. Contract, these people don't contradict me. which is that fucked up bullshit? We've been talking about for like three seasons now about how like Jackson's circling the wagons around their relationship, which is totally manipulative thing to keep like the woman under his thumb like an in control. It's just like A. To me. It's a sign of terrible. Terrible things so Lisa's like. She's like what I want to see. All these people is a concerted effort for all of them to put it all back together. This is not good. We all have to come together as a terrible team of. People who do problematic things all the time, but still some however job at my restaurant. Yes, I just want to get back to failing upwards. Can we do that? You. So then Andy brings on all the men. Will some of the man? Thought Peter. Peter's moment to come back right. This is when he comes onstage. There's little shots CDO and they do that, but there was no, they didn't even. They didn't even ask Peter to make Zoom Square. Peter so lame so. Basically we see all the guys and Andy's like Randall for years. You were reluctant to be on the show. She wouldn't even say your name. About some salad. That's pretty much it. So what do you have to say about that? Now that we've got gotta face to the beautiful tossed salad image. We say about that. Well I was petrified for years to come onto the show. You know, but then you know once the divorce was finally. I got rid of a few mistresses than I was like okay. I can do this all right so I came on here and you know what the end of the day family and I just wanted to support you and everyone made it fun. Easy plus production offered me. Me to to Fried Chicken patties per day per they don of per diem. Who is more particularly him and couldn't turn that down so then we seabrook still hot and here he says a lot of things, but just hot and she's like well. They're like well. Hey, does be in quarantine Machina. Make you digger even more because only I've leaned handle, and she's a good p seen in. Such good friends. That the end of it like you all of each other. She has a big heart and Australian. Didgeridoo, thank you and then seen as like Kesse me. Did you notice academy and he kisses her keeps looking at the camera. Is I did not notice that. Like he does on. Camera time there God forbid. All just won't take these moment on television to announce that Moro, we will be having blueberries in the pancakes. Always blueberries. It is laver's pancakes moral, and that's pretty much it. retinas like I love you guys, even though we schooner each other Andy Goes. Wow, will I can't wait to see you all in person. Sue and sausages. Thank you, Andy, which was sort of a hilarious bit of irony there. Well there we go, it's over, so get the. To. See what the Hell is going to happen now. On vanda pump rules who knows who knows big question marks but in the meantime I'll tell you what's happening in the world of watch. Crap ends so. It's going to be I. believe that's our next episode, right? 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