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Fresh "cosby" from BMAN
"Get McGee had to work at a dairy farm. You would quit after 10 minutes. Yes, I would. If you don't eat real butter moved to a different I told you. I have to find it shows you because he knows that I can milk a cow on my forearm would never get's or have any skills. No job. No, Mister, don't point Are you in the pocket of big dairy or something like that? You were very Abed. We kind of are Did you, uh, drink any milk in your coffee this morning? So I have something this morning I went to go get some cream and he goes. We don't have the good stuff. We got regular milk, though. No grade he goes, got to support the cows. I heard that down the whole picture. I consider us in the pocket of the big dairy because they bring us shakes and grilled cheese over cheeseburger. Communist don't like cheeseburgers. No, no, no, no, no, no. No Americans like cheeseburgers. What turn of burgers. Some turn up in positive, So it's I better. I better finish the introductions. There's a SCE over their hands. He's the proprietor of these Cosby joke that a special Edition coming up in less than five minutes we're going to do and we're going to open up the show with an ace Cosby joke of the day. I'm very confident. Oh, by the way, we do have a great story involving both alligators and fireworks. And yes, and when, and it's in a police press release, and they literally in the press release go. We're not kidding, So we'll get to that coming up in the bizarre world of our world. Okay, there's Josh at the orange insoles dot com Sidekick desk. I Christie leads in a different room behind the glass, celebrating being by herself, not listening to us during the break Now that the party over there behind the glass over there, it's Willie Griswald happens to be my son happens to be a comedian based in Chicago. And let's see. We have Ah, Pat God. One around the corner where the fudge is made, Pat once again. Got no sleep last night. Tired? Yeah. And we'll be back. That's all the time we have to this break would be back with more while you and you, you and your little black coffee and you're not even drinking coffee. I know every morning I start off with green tea. Do you know you? You put you put on your little yoga pants? Karen. I like my coffee. Black. Yeah, I do, too. That's an old joke. You can't pack Gotta win. You've been awake for several hours since one, eh? One. I am the power went out. Ah, strangled by my CPAP and you wear the CPAP machine on your face, which I try to explain. It reminded me of the old pictures. What's the most contemporary? They just there where they're doing? Cruise? Yeah, they're doing a remake of that right top gun to supposed to come out every minute gun. Mallory was, I think was already supposed to be. Oh, yeah, They pushed it back to Christmas now. Really? Yes. So you've got this face mask you sleep in this thing? What kind of noises that make you just like that, And it's just pumping air into your face into your new your nose and mouth. Yeah, it's very pleasant. How do you exhale? It's very pleasant. You exhale. And there's a couple little slivers of holes appear that goes by the eyes. No, right right about. Oh, very can you can you? Ah, flavor if you will. The air you inhale, you know, but it goes through a humidifier. You put water in distilled water Every night is a great question. I wonder really like a vanilla banana nut muffin. I used L live in the old days. Are you No problem. No reason to go on. Is that really a thing? Can you get a flavor? You can bet you I don't know. Maybe you could get Gwyneth Paltrow on this my cpap like that. If you put a Glater like it's like a CPAP speaker going felt scared like J. J. Okay. I've never seen one of these. Does it strap on your head? My mom has one. What does she have the back? Your head has got magnets that click on either side. O, This is one of the chin. Well, there are some that just go in your nose too, don't they? Yes, there are Says You have to clean it every night. Do you clean it every night? You have to you, You know That's what Billy Schatz is She nearly that are you Rinse it yourself. Really? This is really complex. You put water in this thing every night Distilled water area. Are you a snore? Tom? Do you wake up? Tom gets fan mail from the airport. Are you kidding? I went on vacation with.
Fresh update on "cosby" discussed on Texas Fishing and Outdoors
"You know, particularly if you need some additional, maybe you need to be at a different level on math and you are. Then you test in a college to go and do that at a community college really mix great sense. It's not like colleges already did not have enough on their plate. Right now you're dealing with other social issues. We've already had some big donors for whom buildings or schools were named embarrassing schools. Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein. Princeton has renamed its Woodrow Wilson school because the Wilson was a leader and an international relations. He was an ardent segregation is too fired every black person he could in the federal government. How much Of taking this end our colleges and universities doing right now. Well, college isn't really a microcosm of what's going on in such society at large. So I think you'll see many of these issues on college campuses this fall. But college is also are an opportunity, tohave discussion and dialogue and talk about these issues, and that is absolutely critical to solving the challenges that we have in front of us. So you know, I think it's ah, It's been a long time for these conversations to be underway. Just today. I got an email from one of my daughters about the high school that she had attended, had always called their team. Their mascot was the Indians. I can tell you that they've been talking about changing that mascot name for 40 years, and today they made that decision. So you know these particular times that were in? I think what they're saying is that you know, there's just no tolerance for not making decisions. You know, we It's not a time to keep talking. It's a time for action. And I think you'll see those conversations on college campuses. This fault as the final thing we have black lives matter. We have me too. We have LGBT rights. How are these things? Changing campuses and the way we talking, teach history, language, literature, social studies and our people on all sides open to in open debate in these things actually find students to be extraordinarily open about about all of these kinds of social issues. When they come to campus, they accept the students that air there they accept their appears that air their inner they're very open about whether it's LGBT, or whether it's about political perspectives. Eso We don't worry about students. I know that they're going to talk about these issues, and they're gonna be very forthright about them. And that's the best thing that we can possibly dio. And then we've got history to look back on. We've always addressed challenging issues over time. There's great ways through literature you mentioned earlier that discussion about what should you major in? I mean what we're finding employers are saying that's most important for a college skills today is creativity. Problem solving, being being a good writer began to communicate effectively. Those are the Yes skills that students can take out of the college experience and into the workplace today, there's ah lot. As I said on the plate of college is this fall? Dr. Barbara Mystic is president of the National Association of Independent Colleges and Universities. Thank you so much for being with us. I thank you for your time. Thank you for your interest in what's happening on college.
Pennsylvania's Supreme Court to hear appeal of Bill Cosby's sexual assault conviction
"A new development in the case against Bill Cosby ABC's almost has more after two lower courts refused to overturn bill Cosby's conviction of indecent assault and battery the Pennsylvania Supreme Court announcing it will hear part of Cosby's appeal the court plans to examine whether the five women who accused him of earlier sexual assault should have been allowed to testify also in agreement with the former prosecutor in the case promising not to criminally prosecute Cosby and his wife Camille reacting I'm very very pleased with it's not a hundred percent but now I'm looking at something that is possible possible for vindication
Bill Cosby granted appeal in sexual assault case by Pennsylvania Supreme Court
"Pennsylvania's highest court has agreed to review bill Cosby's twenty eighteen conviction for drugging and sexually assaulting a woman at his home in two thousand four the appeals court will consider whether it was appropriate to allow evidence of assaults against other women into the trial involving Andrea Constand here's Cosby's wife Camille I'm very very pleased with it's not a hundred percent but now I'm looking at something that is possible possible for vindication that is the goal bill Cosby is less than two years and with three to ten year term at a prison outside
Pennsylvania's Supreme Court to hear appeal of Bill Cosby's sexual assault conviction
"Desk open so in your Supreme Court will review bill Cosby's twenty eighteen sexual assault conviction K. Y. W. suburban bureau chief Jim Bowers reports the sense opinion Supreme Court says it will take a look at two aspects of bill Cosby's twenty eighteen trial where he was convicted of aggravated indecent sexual assault the court says it will review what's called prior bad acts a judge's decision to allow five other accusers to testify at Cosby's trial will also look at whether there was an agreement in place from a previous district attorney that said Cosby would never be prosecuted if you agreed to sit for a deposition in the civil case Cosby lost his appeal in Superior Court now ask the Supreme Court to review the case earlier this year the eighty two year old about two years and with three to ten your sense of S. C. I. Phoenix in Montgomery County he was convicted in April twenty eighteen of drugging and molesting Andrea Constand at his Elkins park home in two thousand four and sent to prison in September twenty eighteen Cosby spokesman says they're grateful for the court for agreeing to the
Pennsylvania's Supreme Court to hear appeal of Bill Cosby's sexual assault conviction
"The Pennsylvania Supreme Court will review bill Cosby's twenty eighteen sexual assault conviction is K. Y. W. suburban bureau chief Jim bell worth that's opinion Supreme Court says it will take a look at two aspects of bill Cosby's twenty eighteen trial where he was convicted of aggravated indecent sexual assault the court says it will review what's called prior bad acts a judge's decision to allow five other accusers to testify at Cosby's trial will also look at whether there was an agreement in place from a previous district attorney that said Cosby would never be prosecuted if you agreed to sit for a deposition in the civil case Cosby lost his appeal in Superior Court now ask the Supreme Court to review the case earlier this year the eighty two year old about two years into a three to ten your sense of S. C. I. Phoenix in Montgomery County he was convicted in April twenty eighteen of drugging and molesting Andrea Constand at his Elkins park on the two thousand four and sent to prison in September twenty eighteen Cosby spokesman says they're grateful for the court for agreeing to the
Bill Cosby appeal will test scope of #MeToo prosecutions
"Pennsylvania Supreme Court says it will review some of the issues Bill Cosby has raised in connection with the sexual assault conviction but how might that affect other cases filed in the me too era at issue in bill Cosby's appeal or some key decisions many legal observers say had a big role in putting the comedian behind bars perhaps for the rest of his natural life Pennsylvania's High Court will review a trial decision to let five other accusers testified at Cosby's twenty eighteen sexual assault trial prosecutors won the right to put them on claiming the additional witnesses helped to establish a pattern of behavior to buttress the main victims claim houses lawyers have claimed that ruling tipped the scales of justice out of the comedians favored legal experts say the appellate review could clarify whether such prior bad acts testimony can be used in sex case crimes I'm Oscar wells Gabriel
Bill Cosby appeal will test scope of #MeToo prosecutions
"Hi Pennsylvania Mike Rossi Supreme Court reporting says it Major will review League Baseball some of the is issues opening Bill in late Cosby July has raised in connection Major League with the Baseball sexual has assault set a conviction sixty game but how pandemic might that delayed affect regular other cases season filed schedule in the me with too play era starting July twenty third at or issue July in bill twenty Cosby's fourth appeal in empty or ballparks some key decisions according to details many obtained legal by observers the Associated say had a Press big role the in owners putting and the comedian players association behind bars have perhaps agreed for the to rest expand of his natural the designated life hitter Pennsylvania's to National High League games Court will and review extra a trial innings decision will start with a runner to let on five second other base accusers each team testified will play ten at games Cosby's against twenty each of its eighteen four division sexual rivals assault trial and for games prosecutors against each won of the the right five to put teams them on in the corresponding claiming the additional division witnesses in the other helped leak to establish the number of a pattern playoff of teams behavior is set at ten to buttress but that still the main could victims change claim I might houses cross the lawyers have claimed that ruling tipped the scales of justice out of the comedians favored legal experts say the appellate review could clarify whether such prior bad acts testimony can be used in sex case crimes I'm Oscar wells Gabriel
Bill Cosby allowed to appeal sexual assault conviction before Pennsylvania Supreme Court
"The Pennsylvania Supreme Court is going to review bill Cosby's sexual assault conviction or suburban bureau chief they would abuse Jim Miller reports the Pennsylvania Supreme Court says it will take a look at two aspects of bill Cosby's twenty eighteen trial where he was convicted of aggravated indecent sexual assault the court says it will review what's called prior bad acts a judge's decision to allow five other accusers to testify at Cosby's trial will also look at whether there was an agreement in place from a previous district attorney that said Cosby would never be prosecuted if you agreed to sit for a deposition in the civil case Cosby lost his appeal in Superior Court now ask the Supreme Court to review the case earlier this year the eighty two year old about two years into a three to ten your sense of FCI Phoenix in Montgomery County he was convicted in April twenty eighteen of drugging and molesting Andrea Constand at his Elkins park home in two thousand four and sent to prison in September twenty eighteen Cosby spokesman says they're grateful for the court for agreeing to
Bill Cosby granted appeal in Pennsylvania sex assault case
"The Pennsylvania Supreme Court now agreeing to hear bill Cosby's appeal of a sexual assault convictions Commonwealth high court has agreed to hear two points of Cosby's appeal one is over the trial court's decision to allow additional accusers of Cosby's to testify and the decision to allow the jury to hear evidence that he had previously given drugs to women before sex the other issue is over what Cosby's attorneys say was in agreement with the previous Montgomery County prosecutor not to prosecute him but that the current district attorney says was non binding Cosby continues to serve his sentence at a prison outside of
Bill Cosby allowed to appeal sexual assault conviction before Pennsylvania Supreme Court
"The Pennsylvania Supreme Court will review bill Cosby's twenty eighteen sexual assault conviction or suburban bureau chief K. Y. WCML work reports the Pennsylvania Supreme Court says it will take a look at two aspects of bill Cosby's twenty eighteen trial where he was convicted of aggravated indecent sexual assault the court says it will review what's called prior bad acts a judge's decision to allow five other accusers to testify at Cosby's trial will also look at whether there was an agreement in place from a previous district attorney that said Cosby would never be prosecuted if you agreed to sit for a deposition in the civil case Cosby lost his appeal in Superior Court now ask the Supreme Court to review the case earlier this year the eighty two year old about two years and with three to ten your sense of FCI Phoenix in Montgomery County he was convicted in April twenty eighteen of drugging and molesting Andrea Constand at his Elkins park home in two thousand four and sent to prison in September twenty eighteen Cosby spokesman says they're grateful for the court for agreeing to the review at the suburban zero Gemma ward K. Y. W.
Bill Cosby granted appeal for 2018 sexual assault case in Pennsylvania Supreme Court
"Pennsylvania's highest court will review elements of the trial that led to bill Cosby's conviction on sexual assault charges Laurie Levinson is a professor of criminal law at Loyola law university and a former federal prosecutor the state Supreme Court is looking at the most significant issues in the case one related to whether it was alright for the judge to allow other women whose cases were not charged to testify as prior similar acts and the second is whether it's appropriate to use a civil deposition against Cosby when he had been told by the prior prosecutors that he wouldn't be prosecuted the eighty two year old is serving a three to ten year prison sentence after being convicted of drugging and sexually assaulting a
Bill Cosby granted appeal in sexual assault case by Pennsylvania Supreme Court
"The Pennsylvania Supreme Court he's going to review bill Cosby's twenty eighteen sexual assault conviction or suburban bureau chief K. Y. W. Jim Miller reports Transylvania's a print court says it will take a look at two aspects of bill Cosby's twenty eighteen trial where he was convicted of aggravated indecent sexual assault the court says it will review what's called prior bad acts a judge's decision to allow five other accusers to testify at Cosby's trial will also look at whether there was an agreement in place from a previous district attorney that said Cosby would never be prosecuted if he agreed to sit for a deposition in the civil case Cosby lost his appeal in Superior Court now ask the Supreme Court to review the case earlier this year the eighty two year old about two years into a three to ten your sense of S. C. I. Phoenix in Montgomery County he was convicted in April twenty eighteen of drugging and molesting Andrea Constand at his Elkins park home in two thousand four and sent to prison in September twenty eighteen Cosby spokesman says they're grateful for the court for agreeing to the
Bill Cosby granted appeal in Pennsylvania sex assault case
"Comedian Bill Cosby has won the right to fight his twenty eighteen sexual assault conviction in the Pennsylvania Supreme Court I marches are a letter with the latest a spokesman for Bill Cosby says he's extremely thankful that the Pennsylvania Supreme Court will review two aspects of his case Cosby was convicted of drugging and sexually assaulting a woman at his home in two thousand four the court will examine a judge's decision to let prosecutors call five other accusers it also will consider Cosby's argument that a former prosecutor agreed that Cosby would never be charged if he testified in the pews are civil lawsuit Cosby is serving a sentence of three to ten years in a prison outside Philadelphia
Bobby and Billy Dukes from Taste of Country
"Welcome to episode two forty nine, where at the end of this? Eddie Mighty and I will review the movie wall card. The Dewey Cox Story. It's an old movie, but it's a music movie. I never thought it'd be funny, so if you haven't seen the movie, you still might light. Listen to the review. Is We're we're kind of down? But if you haven't seen it and you WANNA watch, maybe go watch it. Then come back to the end of this podcast, but we're GONNA put it at the end. In case, there are spoilers to right Mike. Yeah a little bit. But that's not a movie doesn't matter if it's spoiled, it's not like some crazy indy. There's nothing you can really spoil it. Yeah, so check that out. CHECK THE MOVIE I! Also talked to Billy Dukes, coming out from taste of country on the top ten hottest artist, a twenty twenty kind of go through that bill, smart guy like him had a Montauk about that music headlines of the week. Live nation is trying to get artists to take pay cuts for concerts and festivals next year in a memo obtained by rolling stone live, nation sites, unprecedented times and quote the exponential release. Excuse me the exponential rise of certain costs as reasons for adjusting payment policies. That's interesting because they're going to have to pay a lot more. To make the make, sure things are safe and clean, yeah. Then they thought they would. Let me read more about this. Most of the new policies shift to financial burdens to the artist's. For example, the company wants to decrease the monetary guarantees promised to artists before and a bit twenty percent across the board. Live nation also says that if a concert is canceled due to poor ticket sales, it will give the artist twenty five percent of the guarantee. Well that's interesting. And I think I'll speak on this as also a performer I work with these promotion companies promoters all different ones I. think as long as books are shown. People can make wise decisions about business are doing together, and it's not that I don't trust live nation or an artist, but I would like to see if I'm someone that's has agreed to a tour or agreed to three or four shows even show I wanna see those costs, and why am I? GonNa take. Mine Down Twenty percent. The twenty five percent on the on the cancellation is great for an artist. Also, there's still get paid even if they don't sell tickets because people don't WanNa come. Twenty. They're guaranteed twenty bucks. They, probably a lower act would be guaranteed about ten to fifteen thousand. Unless it's a baby act on big tour there about five, five, thousand, seventy, five hundred. Lower. Ten to big acts are. Hundreds of thousands of dollars a night. So you're talking about. That's a nice little little. Give there. But that's interesting I never thought about the fact that it's going to cost more to put on shows. So I think as long as they show their books a little bit I don't know why artist would say no to that true. because. Everybody's GonNa lose some money here. Everybody, and no party, promoter or artist. Should benefit, and the other should suffer. You should kind of all being this together in a way. Interesting I didn't think about that some more. Maybe do a whole podcast on that that'd be the most boring podcasts ever open a book. Now the whole country is protesting. Rage against the machine is actually back on the charts. The band's self titled Debut. Album landed back on the billboard. It reached number eight on the I tunes top album charts as well. Yeah, do we have any rage I both them up? This is right in my gut from back in. High. School more so than college. I guess it was like ninth and tenth grade. I would have. Someone sent me a tape of the edge in Dallas. They'd hit record play and take an hour and the. An hour and I get a lot of rage and that. Was a big rage guy, but I didn't really know why I. Just like the sound I didn't really know. What they were protesting at the time by the time I started to know I started to get older and getting college, and they started to fall off a little bit. Do their own things. But now look back. Pretty cool. This is one of my favorites. What else do you have all right, so? We're limited in the range music. A CON has secured a six billion dollar contract to build a con city. A futuristic cryptocurrency theme city in Senegal. Along with having homes, malls and a power plant, a city all amenities. The city needs including schools in a police station pretty baller. Some people have buildings. Here's a whole city. Alex Super Futuristic. Does this ever actually happen. Though I don't know the guy who did smack that now has a city and see the king because he just. There's King Oh. Yeah, what because if he's not? He's still. The city is named after. And then if he does something really bad and his older life like commits a bad crime. That's a change the name of it because they don't want the name the city after so like you're not seeing any bill. cosby elementary schools still remaining in play. Now that he would do that, but I'm saying. You know. Commits. Fraud. Martha Stewart style. Do. You have to change the name of the city. Finally Dashboard confessional singer Chris. CARRABBA suffered severe injuries in a motorcycle accident. Luckily they weren't life threatening, and he expects to make a full recovery as watching the video of him in the hospital bed. You see it yet. Sad lookin'. Yeah, it looks pretty terrible. Motorcycles. Just never had the need to Yana on motorcycle. He's motorcycle guy though he looks cool riding motorcycle. Down Hilas here, oh! Oh, I've never seen him writing I just say like He. He's the kind of guy that will look cool. Riding motorcycles tattoos like the good face. We have those things tattoos in the face pretty good to go. But he's what happened to him. Do you know I don't know? He had a car car hit him. I don't even think that he hit anybody. I think he just fell rookie. Here's the one thing I've never acted motorcycle. Think. I've ever been on one driving me I. Never Motorcycle. Let's talk about new music before we get into this. I'm just really it's really weird about even building statues after people who are still alive. It's always a tricky thing because they do something. That's not so good they. Statue down. You want us to wait on your statue then. Yeah, okay. I personally don't, but like I wondered in my town. There's a sciences boy home. Bobby bonds if I do something bad and I go to jail. Do they rip that down I? Don't want that
"cosby" Discussed on Chasing Cosby
"Have lasting relationships as a result of it data. Excuse me I'd like to say also something huge was stolen from these women. This woman would have had a career building her career. She'd be Acting Today. She would be known to us and we would admire her work. Barbara Bowman if you look at her pictures as a child she was gorgeous she was world class. She had a chance at a career. The Weinstein victims. These girls had careers. The things that were stolen by these two individuals in particular are very very large and eat internal and other cosby survivor was also guest or on the cosby. Show talk twice and she was sexually assaulted by Bill Cosby in the studios. So which you would like to answer this question. If you could ask Cosby one question today what would it be not a thing? I wouldn't talk to him if my life time. Same better things to do. I have to say to that man nothing. I wouldn't ask him anything I know who he is he does deserve would have no answer for me. Well I actually want to follow up because you talked about justice and I wanNA come back to that because there was something said about remorse and I think you know to take to to kind of like not necessarily think about remorse into kind of put the ball in the survivors court. Finding peace is really really important and I think if you're sitting waiting for somebody to apologize show. Remorse have remorse. That may never come in. So I think at a certain point when you're if you want to have your own peace of mind from survivors standpoint. It's probably the best to have to forgive. Get support and find peace with that. 'cause I think you're going to be kind of grasping at straws and struggling. Always wanting that apology in and always defining your life excite him right well so it's kind of like to take that into the power back in not necessarily looking for remorse or an apology. It doesn't it doesn't matter their remorse is is maybe better for the perpetrators lifer Karma but it doesn't matter like you can still thrive in. You're not going to get into that power anymore tackling. I think of the rebuke that was issued to Elizabeth Warren. When she talked to long still she persisted. And I think of all of you and how remarkably you have persisted in all of this and all of you survivors out here in the audience and I'll I'll wrap up with Nikki and ask you what's next for us. What more will we hear about bill? Cosby? Have we heard the last of Bill Cosby from you for me. Oh well we'll have to see what happens. I mean still would hope we could do some kind of Docu series. I think there's been no real definitive story on Bill Cosby jet from the survivors. Points of view. I think what the one thing that podcast showed is how powerful these survivor stories are when people hear them they believe them We got to tell their stories. At length in the podcast. Where other shows have just done dribs and drabs and pieces here and there? But you hear these women tell their stories at length and it's very powerful and when people hear that they believe it. I mean the podcast has done extremely well so I just hope that we could get it to a large audience because cosby still controls. The microphone a lot. You know he does anything and it makes news and their stores. We saw with the remarks just from his spokesman about Harvey Weinstein Right. And he says he's never going to express remorse because he did nothing wrong. And it's consensual and he's gets headlines every time he says something like that and I just think there needs to be some balance out there because as I say like everybody thinks they basis their opinion on this case on emotion. Not Facts you know. And so I think once people have read my book or listen to the PODCAST. They believe it and they don't want to their cosby supporters. Who are writing comments going? I didn't believe these women when they came forward but now now I believe them but I would encourage people to seek out facts to instead of just basing their decisions on emotions so you should follow the chasing Cosby podcast on Apple. You should follow and foundation when it comes online and read your women. We need therapy and they need support and they need help otherwise what happened to them will affect them for the rest of their lives. Yeah and and their families yes. It's down collateral damage absolutely. Andrew's going say. Yeah and I really think with where we're going. I think we're we're we're getting somewhere and I think to bring technology up to date with with this moment. I I think I think it's going to transform a lot of how survivors access have instant access. Which today as you know? We live in an APP world and to be able to literally download an APP and start in each conversation with the lawyers pretty powerful game changer. Safe APP so let's thank first of all we'll get the audience the survivors the L. A. Times staff Kate Kelton or a paintings out in the lobby but mostly this extraordinary panel tonight so enlightening filling I for joining us and we sell next need at the parole hearing..
"cosby" Discussed on Chasing Cosby
"I was spent four and the reason I know that is. I looked in the mirror and saw what was happening and so that's why I didn't forget it. I saw what was happening to me. And it wasn't good when that deposition email. I was shocked and to raise their news. Come on now I want to ask Lily I though because about a third of the victims the survivors were women lack black because there are more who are Asian one up and we've seen it even recently with when obituary written of Kobe Bryant when Gayle King asked about his death and the sexual assault accusations she got threatened because she was accused of bringing down a powerful black man. The same thing happened here with the cosby case right. Can you talk about that? And how the pressure kind of pressure that you saw and felt for saying what you said. You're talking about Snoop Dogg. Yes right. Who is mother eventually told him to back off and an ambassador. Susan Rice said. You'd Better Watch out because you're coming after an army and That's what bill cosby finally realized that it's an Army of women who've come up and spoke out against him but absolutely as a black woman and we carry an extra burden we're accused by our black community and particularly black men is being co conspirators of this justice system that disproportionately incarcerates black men. And that's totally absurd Jewel Allison are cosby. Survivors wrote a couple of wonderful articles about this. She said it's not about race is about rape Did you get the same kind of personal vitriolic? Do I owed still using the present tense. I have been attacked physically in person by strangers. I'm very sad to say this. A majority of the people who do attack me for having spoken out against the beloved bill cosby are black men and it's very painful. It's extremely painful. Yeah I get attacked a Nikki. Was this a surprise element when you were starting to your reporting this because this again was maybe sort of new. Yeah I mean it was. I didn't expect it to turn on race because Bill Cosby is not your typical African American. Defendant he had seven private criminal tourneys at his second trial. I've done stories that have freed African American men who wrongfully convicted and to a one they had public defenders who are overwhelmed and didn't do their jobs in this case is not about race. It's about power wealth and privilege and how that shielded him from justice for four decades so it did surprise me because I think it's absurd and it's an insult to the African American defendants who are wrongfully accused and wrongfully incarcerated. And it is. It is astonishingly. He still tries to pull that and to raise for you to come into this. After you know your years of suffering in silence and say one thing remarkable and stuck it struck me as it came to me was how many of the women who were survivors actually told their friends their parents contemporaneously. This wasn't something that came up out of whole claw twenty years later and the fact that they did confide in people made it so much more powerful and their stories. I would think more credible but theresa. How did you come to terms with not only what happened to you but how you decided to tell your story well? When my incident happened it was in the seventies in times. Were totally different. There wasn't even a word date rape person that you know Ray. There was no no. None of those words were available and times were so different so even though. I told my mother later I told my sister she told me. I better not tau because she worked at the Hilton Hotel and she would lose her job and she also said don't tell because they find people dead in the desert all the time so there were fears about what might happen to you if you came forward and they were very real because at the same time they were finding young girls in the desert So years went by and when I heard Andrea story I I wanted to tell. I was angry that this man was still doing this and I had to live my whole life. He seeing those books. America's Dad watching that show. My son even watched the cosby show that everybody loved that one for kids picture pages and I remember hearing that now. I didn't make him turn it off because I knew this was something I just had. The live with was a secret and so it it was just the way it was for women and so by the time I saw Andrea Story. I was really angry about what happens to us and I wanted to tell and I called up the police department and faxed in a paper told what happened but then we know it. It'd get buried again. He was able to bay area and he buried it for nine more years. So after I tried to tell again and it was buried. I had to just try to forget about it. Which was what I was trying to do. And what we all did for all of our lives by the time two thousand fourteen came out. I don't think I had cable or whatever but I had some Internet and I was on vacation of working or something and I came back and I heard her. It was out again and Mike. Oh my God. I've got hurry up and tell before it disappears again. 'cause I thought they'll just bury it again and this time it stuck and it was almost like a miracle because by by the time I gave an interview I just I just spilled everything I could think about the people that were interviewing me. Because I thought it's my only chance and then it's probably going to disappear again. And meanwhile that's a whole lifetime of differences in the way the world works for women and now we are totally in a different place in the world. And it's not like we're Victorian Valentino and sunny wells and maybe I am a little later than them were but it's a different world now and we have to push forward changing but it does cause you a lot of Changing of your thought process. Now we can speak before was like we all had duct tape banner mouth and we didn't matter so I say we matter now I'm GonNa get things happened. That really almost serendipitous changed. The course of this case one of them was the accidental release of Bill Cosby's deposition and you wonder how far the case would have gone. Had that not happened. That was a thunderclap. Wasn't it right well? The AP had petitioned in God and was trying to get unsealed some oceans from Andreas case. Where excerpts of the deposition were attached and even what was? That was pretty astonishing. It was the admission about drugging giving leads to therese. But yes then. The court reporter thought the whole deposition have been released. A couple of news organizations got copies of it and that's what really made it explode. Because here's Mr. He done an album in the early seventies. Kids say no to drugs. You know he had been you know. I don't drink because I took two sips of a beer. I teams and I didn't like the loss of control so I don't drink. He was Mr squeaky clean and here. He is admitting to give and drugs to women he wanted to have. Sex with so yeah. It was astonishing. And that's would help. Spur the reopening of injury case which. I was completely shocked by of all the things I thought would come out of the all fifty other women coming forward. By this point Andrea case being reopened was not something I thought was going to happen. I just didn't I didn't astonishing. And your case Andrew squeaked squeaked under the statute of limitations for Yes it did when it was reopened in In Twenty Six getting twenty lily. The other thing that seemed to move this forward was the fact that paradoxically there were two men who had something to say about this and one of them attainable. Burs was a black comedian. Who went on stage was talking about Bill Cosby as a rapist? And then there was a reporter in the audience and all of a sudden it got new and maybe a little more serious attention. Yeah that's striking and I just think it lends to the fact that at the core of all of this is a real visceral hatred for women and devalue is devaluation of our voices and it did. It did take a man for the floodgates of our voices to open. So that's just like another marker of Misogyny. Yeah well God bless him opening the gates. Whoever it is it opened the gates. They did it for us and they did well and we're glad to be here. The other one was a ninety year. Old Man named Frank. Scotty who'd worked with Bill Cosby. Who had money orders? That cosby had had draft. I guess to pay young women over the years and this ninety year old guy who was like many of the survivors accused of trying to get his fifteen minutes of fame by realized he was trying to clear his conscience. These money orders had his name on them not cosby's but cosby had him do that for years. And William Morris was doing the same thing and Andrea was offered an educational trust after. She went to police which she did. Not Take him up on and I certainly don't blame any woman who did take an educational trust from him but I wonder how many there are out there. Who took them and bought their silence. Louis so often. We see that changes in society happened because of things that occur to famous people because they become the benchmark that if it happens to X. This becomes possible so many women who've survived this hard on themselves were critical of themselves. Damage themselves away blaming themselves and isolating themselves. Tamra talk about. Do you think we're at the point or near the point where society will stop penalizing women for this because so many women's career suffered so many blocks put in their way in some cases. I gathered from the podcast. Mr.
"cosby" Discussed on Chasing Cosby
"Been accused of sexual drugging and sexually assaulting a woman in Pennsylvania and at first. I was astounded because I started to try to counter. How old is he now and I thought really at his age. He's still doing that. And then I had a sense of satisfaction thinking. Well they'll go get him when Tamara Green Call me and I found out she was going. Give me an exclusive interview being the second accuser to come forward against bill cosby. I was in shock after my story about Tamara. Green on the cover of the Daily News. We got inundated with phone calls. People trying to reach our next Morris since you component you've taken a lot of heat and some things in your back and come out a dui and some of the things with the with the Bar Association and Bill Cosby has also come out and said that you're lying. I want to read a statement if I go. This is from Bill. Cosby's lawyer responding to the allegations. It says quote. Miss Green is peddling a highly defamatory fictional story about something. She claims occurred with Mr Cosby three decades ago. We further says her claims are false fabricated and defamatory. Mr Cosby denies her assertions. What you say to that. Well what do you expect him to say? He really has no choice but to say that tomorrow tomorrow. Can you pull the mic up and toward your little bit? You can lift it up a little. You just move it just swing it around on the boom arm. There we go. Hello we can lift it up a little there. We are testing. Okay thank you. Thanks for being. I guess I was watching this before. When before we came on stage I was so shocked to see the word groped and I thought groped really reporter colleague of Mindset in the fifties and sixties as wouldn't even use the word raped and print. They said harm and so. The idea of these euphemisms that let people slide away or a little bit shocking. So so you're you're encounter with. Bill Cosby was a long time ago. But when you were describing that moment there that you saw in a sense the keystone being pulled away that the stories were starting to come out your responses were. I'm sure very complex. And how would you characterize those will for many years? I had compartmentalized the information. The entire story of what had happened to me intact. It away someplace very very deep. It's funny because now that the battle is over and things come out and I speak a bit. It's much more emotional now than it was then then it was a battle that was a fight and you stand up and you do it but when I speak of it now in danger of go into pieces you know but I thought yeah well finally. They're going to get him. I hadn't thought that he was actually continuing to do it. I thought that I was the only one in each of us. Thought we were the only one and it was a big surprise when when things broke loose but when I heard that Andrea had been attacked and I thought as I said on the tape I. They're going to get him now. Somebody will get him. And that's how he has coming. And then I started hearing the district attorney in Pennsylvania do this. Da Speak for. They're not gonNA charger. They're not going to charge him. I could tell the attenuation of the information. The sort of distance that he put between himself not relating and telling people that his father Bruce cancers father was bill cosby's real estate agent sold the House that he lived in they were socially connected. There's a fabric of society in that county and I just I kind of lost it. I started calling. I called Bruce Castor. I called the assistant. Da I called the watch captain on the police force. I called the crime lab. I called the detector taught. I called the mayor thing. No I was on the phone. I was on the phone and nobody finally recent. What's her last name reaffirm? Who was his assistant? Who has since become a judge and who in fact reopened the case later she actually called me back and interviewed me and I hope and I believe that that interview with me led her to believe because she had prosecuted a lot of sex sexual tatt cases that that that I was believed by her and that that was an influence later when she reopened the case. And did you get in touch? With some of the other survivors. Did you share stories and and kind of reinforce your own conviction that now you see makes his surprise. I'm sorry to interrupt you pat. What surprises people as I did not meet Andrea Constand until the day? That Bill Cosby was sentenced in fourteen years of time that it took to put him in jail. We never met. I never spoke to her. I never spoke to anybody else. Briefly Barbara Bowman. I spoke to Barbara once. Our civil suit began. We were together but we never met and I cautioned people outright and publicly to say. Let us not cross pollinate. Our stories let our stories be our stories because otherwise people are going to say well. We just mixed it up. Put it all together and created something out of whole cloth and that wasn't true. This is why you became a lawyer. You think now I remember. I became allergic to have a big mouth and I'm not qualified to serve anybody. I would go what you want to eat what. Now don't be ridiculous. I flew for TWA as a stewardess for about an hour. I was fired for so I didn't have a lot of time choices for a second career so actually law school was great. It's like reading trashy magazines it's gossip its each case is only about ten pages long and any book and it's every horrible thing anybody's ever done to anybody else in fourteen areas of law so it was like really. I was like and then there's a quiz at the end. They call it the state learn like that's what. I did when when when you step forward when you made the decision to be there in public in Andrew's case. That decision was made for her. But did you have the opportunity to make that decision yourself whether or not you would step forward and be identified with this and take part. Well I did when I went on my telephone rampage. I I ended up calling Andrea's lawyers because I still felt the penny finally dropped and I thought well what I call somebody who's actually involved so I called her lawyers and Dolores said to me. Will you speak publicly and I said sure you know not having a clue what was going to happen and then they she said to me this fateful thing she said. We'll use your name and I went. Oh sure what did I know? Oh my so you know what you're in for. Well you know I did. I'd had other sort of fat cases and I'd been in the papers quoted but I was pretty much full of myself. I was at the top of my legal game. I was a good trial. Or if I don't say so myself and I was not publicly shy and you can tell. I'm not trembling because I'm nervous. I Have Parkinson's but and so I get a little jittery but it doesn't hurt not to worry you know. I just came forward so I contacted. Nikki. I believe and the two of US had this long interview and then my face was on the cover of this magazine and she sent it to me. Hard copy in the mail in an envelope went opened the envelope. I tell you oh like the whole thing is my face and I thought Oh dear might have gotten a little carried away for for you because you said you compartmentalized this. Did you ever have any expectation that he would be called to account but he would come to know and I said to him? After the event sometime I bumped into him because I was not able to reach him because I did my telephone rampage then too but nobody would take my call and I said to him. You know I'm going to tell every person who will hold still long enough what you did to me. I'm going to say it every day all the time and it's funny because in the November before I actually spoke out I had sold a pickup truck to a fella and he was stuck in the cab with me as we're driving around and I told him this story. God I have to buy this check at this woman out of here you know and people. Nobody wanted to believe it and I grew up overseas. My parents were civilians attached to the military. So I didn't have the same kind of I wasn't imbued with this sort of cosby mythology at all. I hadn't really seen his show. I didn't know a lot about him. Though when I was in college I spy was hot stuff. We watch man from uncle. So that's how we did that. And so I didn't have the same kind of hesitation about him to me he was a villain and I didn't want this person to be in the world by herself up against that so good. She's a much better person than I am. She she is she's very she's wonderful and she's pure and she was just. GonNa take a beating because I've been a lawyer for quite a while by then I thought. Oh my God they're gonNa kill her and I just decided I had to. I just had to step up and I did. I don't regret it. If I had it to do again. I would do it again. Let's bring on a couple of other people and I look at a couple of videos. Owed Them I. Louis Bernard and then Therese Sarah Knees. Bill Cosby was using the race car to try to solicit pity for him more than a third of us. Bill cosby survivors are black women and we have an extra burden in speaking out against him because the black public attacks us for having brought the black man down for having spoil the legacy that's BS. You know bill cosby destroyed his own legacy his hand and there was too large white pills.
"cosby" Discussed on Chasing Cosby
"Coalitions and rape crisis centers in counselors. Good well before we bring our our next guest on. I want to ask Nikki about how you perceive we're talking about this foundation the new resources. The new attitudes that are available. How is this changing culture? How's it moving the needle on understanding this kind of criminal? This kind of offence. Oh well I don't think it's a coincidence. That the month a month after bill cosby was convicted Harvey Weinstein was criminally charged. They had been toying with that case for months. And there were these detectives who had made these disparaging comments about the victims. They had to teach prosecutors of a sudden. Bill Cosby gets convicted. And the next month Harvey Weinstein is charged. And I think that cosby survivors were the precursors to the whole metoo movement. Early enough credit for that. Maybe because as I said maybe it's because none of the Harvey Weinstein. Accusers were all celebrities. They're all household names. And maybe that's the reason and maybe it's because you know in Bill Cosby's case. He was a celebrity himself. And people. Just don't WanNa Hollywood. Had A lot to do with enabling him. For many many years there are a lot of people who knew what he was doing and Hollywood and did nothing and I don't think that they want to acknowledge their own culpability in this. So it's easier for people to believe that a Harvey Weinstein did something because nobody heard of him before. The scandal broke and a lot of people knew who bill cosby was and a lot of people knew what? Bill Cosby was doing. So I still think there's a lot of protecting of him going on in Hollywood. So let's bring on next guest but before she comes on stage. I want you to watch video. This is Tamara Green. Who was also survivor of these predations? And this is how she reacted. When she heard the news about Andrea I heard about address constants allegations against Bill Cosby when I was standing in my kitchen. Ready to go for the start of my day and I heard a news.
Author Michael Murphy on 'Golf in the Kingdom'
"This is Alan ship. I am delighted to be joined by Michael Murphy author of Golf in the Kingdom still going strong eighty nine Michael. Thank you for doing this well. It's a pleasure. You have such a unique place in the game Euro Golfing Kindo as in your early forties. I'M NOT GONNA say it was a Lark but it was a you're not you're not a Gulf writer. You're not a novelist it just emerged from you in ever. Since you've been this Oracle you've been this grand old man of letters in the game you you tell shape how think about it. So are you still tickled that all these years later people are still finding this novel enjoying it? Well I I love it. I could say channel that because it was not only the first book I wrote the First Book I never tried to ride and I started it as I was turning forty and it was published in one thousand nine hundred ninety two forty seven years ago so when I was forty one so here we are now forty eight years later and it has. His Life Taught Me. I could ride so that in itself was an enormous pleasure and a big force to shape by subsequent life. I never thought of myself as a writer. My brother Was the designated writer in our family might and he had been a successful novelist and my grandfather had delivered John. Steinbeck and Salinas or you and I were both born and You know rules can get us. Signed the kids growing up and I was supposed to be a doctor and Than the more for me Thought I'd be a psychiatrist. And then got to Stanford and found myself in class on comparative religions of that led me to the philosophy and the way of life that shaped me ever since when I was nineteen and twenty but never along the way there was thought. Start writing books so anyway. When I sat down to write this book really did come in a flood. And it's Been living in me ever since I've written eight books now but that one If it were to be one of my children Children it would be among my books. It was my first child by far the most successful and I would say influential. Books are mysterious things. I like to say sometimes. Ufo's identified writing objects you W os or you are os. Son identified reading objects that can open worlds to people. And that's what's actually happened with this book with golf in the Kingdom one of the things about our shared hometown of Salinas which is just a dusty little farming community in the Central Valley known to John. Steinbeck doesn't have that much else to recommend it. It's not that far from pebble. Beach Golf links which figures prominently in my life story and and was important part of Gulf education. So tell us about your early days of playing pebble with with your brother and of course guys would haunt the Cosby Klanbake back. When he was really a big deal with Hogan snead Nelson and Bing crosby's the star in the world so is important from Stamford but it starts with your golf education before that while. That's right I mean we've had very fortunate childhoods you and I and my brother and Yes we would there be there at the crosby so I get to follow Ben Hogan around and watched him up close and personal before and after his accident. Which was in I guess January of Nineteen forty-nine so he missed that whole year in the hospital but he used to partner with Bing crosby and that was fun and Johnny Weissmuller who was the Great Olympic champion of became Tarzan. And the movies anyway. It was those great events and of course plane pebble which to this day remains by far my favorite course and it has to be. I mean there's of course in the world I think more beautiful than pebble. There are others that when you look at them would be beautiful. But to match the incredible range of moods it gets into with the shifting light the shifting fog the filaments of fog that cut across the fairways and all but anyway quyen pebble seen Some of the players in particular Hogan up close definitely was an influence on on golfing. The King wrote about it will hoge himself makes a handful of cameos in the text. Including what was it? The moved you so much about him well his magnetism on the course then he won eight out of eleven majors. He played over that period from forty eight to fifty through fifty three and he After the accident he paid just eighteen tournaments through fifty-three thickening one ten of them. He won virtually every major so he was the top of the game. He was to golf then way. Tiger Woods has been also the quality of his presence and when he would crack this out Just by the second hole at pebble for those who have been developed. Now it's then built up but there was a big field of practice in the pros as well as the onlookers. Got To sit down and watch him. Maybe there'd be hundred. Fifty people big big arena there watching him practice and it was a sight to behold because he had an immense repertoire of shots to fade to draw low high and the silence and that meant a huge impression on me and. I'm sure that as I sat down to write though I didn't plot the book or shape the book deliberately around him that influence. I'm sure was like an acorn growing into this conscious. Us of what the game could be as a kind of If you WANNA call it Yogi you can call it contemporary. You can call Chamonix even exercise golf itself is what in the eastern martial arts. Would you could call a Kata which is a series of movements. That trigger it is said are esoteric anatomy that is the complete person we are both in the flesh and in our soul are in the consciousness itself and golf swing. You could argue is an unnatural. Act It's not like running or throwing which are species learn to do and could do To survive. But you don't take a tee up a ball and hit it at the on charging tiger you know as a member of the tribe so it's an acquired skill that requires the most gypsum concentration and commitment to play it. Well and for this reason he and other reasons it evokes corresponding states of mind which can be interfered with with strong emotions whether rage or grief or sorrow which can produce by this fiendish challenge to get this small ball into this tiny hole and to go after four five hours over the course of four miles. You know. It's on the face of an absurdity. A why are we doing this? And that can occur to while playing. Why am I doing this but you do it? And you have these incredible pleasures and experiences and then as I've discovered through Responding to the book experience you have to call super-normal Mr Cool or cold. In other words the game can do that and It helps to be in a beautiful place like Pebble Beach. The you bring to this conversation. Just leaps off the page. I mean that's I think why the book is in bird because as you say it's this pursuit of ours is is maddening. It makes no sense but we do it anyway. And we were able to put a voice to having a correspondent. Brad faxon about the book and he said what I love about it is it made it okay to to speak of these things and you gave us in vocabulary to this experience at the golfers of had. But I you can get those tools so you matriculate to Stanford and as a fellow Salinas Person. I know it's not the most open minded place to Nag towns little conservative. But you have sort of a life altering experience stafford and what exactly happened well. I was so inspired by this professor. Frederic Spiegelberg he them a born and raised in Germany and Taught was teaching Stanford Comparative Religions so I got exposed to eastern philosophy and meditation contemplation than and particularly the world view of Indian philosopher. A named Sheera window who had been educated in England very elite education. His family had instructed his patrons in England never to let him speak any Indian language so he wanted to English but he was a philosopher and writer kind of a renaissance figure and developed a worldview. That's been the most basic influence on me. There are many influences of prompted me to do what I've done and of course the mystery is. Why chose this story? I could have gotten so many other directions but I consider myself very lucky. A Norman Mailer. The writer argued that every aspiring writer is given one free one by God and that was my free one and it was the first one and it in turn golf in the kingdom has shown me that this birth of new capacities is much more common than most people realize because immediately upon publication people started letting me know about their mystical experiences called experiences on golf courses. I wrote the book on some inspiration but I if you had asked me then that people would be having experiences you know immediately lawyer. New York wrote to me and was just couldn't get over this book. It helped him understand that. How on this particular occasion he'd been standing on the T. of four hundred yard and there were no players between him and his forces have been the green said he could see clear. A ball marker the size of a dime on this whole quarter of a mile away. Two of his playing partner couldn't even see the green. I got it was there. So he wondered. Is this the sort of thing you're talking about or a woman rights to me right away and says the yearbook helped me in? Because not long ago I was playing the eighteenth hole of at my Country Club as the sun was setting and when we got to the green the sun had set but it was still shining through the green and I felt that maybe this was some after glow on my is some retinal shock or something but when they went into the clubhouse who shining through the walls and it shown like that for three days and I was in an exaltation and thank you for writing the book because I found author who bite understand this experience so when you then I started getting these things. It pushed me in the direction of seeing the genius of sport to elicit this experience but not reported by sportswriters very often. You know there've been a few writers who have glimpsed this John Updike. He recognized this and Bernard Darwin. You know the great writer grandson. Charles Darwin he read the links of either down one of his short stories. I mean he certainly could see it. The mystery of golf by Arnold Hall Taint. So there's been a vein of golf writing that shows this power of the game not only to enchant but to reveal these capacities so that in turn has led me into other sports. And so I've been out to meet with coaches and players of ever since about what you would call the inner game of Sport and that Inter has led me to appreciate how prevalent it is in everyday life but not commonly discussed and recognized until recently. Thank you God for giving me go for the Kingdom as my first book.
Philadelphia: Maryland Man Sentenced To 32 Months For Phony Document In Bill Cosby-Linked Case
"A Maryland man was sentenced today to thirty two months in prison for filing a phony document in a lawsuit link to the Bill Cosby sex assault case federal investigators said the forty eight year old man was identified as Joseph Johnson he had a phony court documents filed in support of Cosby's M. was reportedly signed by a lawyer for accuser Andrea Constand the instigators tracked the filing to Johnson and said that he had searched for the two words Cosby and Constand online over ten thousand times a jury convicted him of identity theft and making false statements to his lawyer has not returned calls
Weinstein case could influence other sex crime prosecutions
"Are talking this hour about the verdict handed down yesterday in the case against Harvey Weinstein. And what if any work remains to be done in the metoo movement and whether or not yesterday's verdict was a watershed moment in the metoo movement? I'm joined by a team. Goss graves. She's president and CEO of the National Women's Law Center and co-founder of Times Up Legal Defense Fund and joining us. Now from New York is Jodi Kantor. Jody along with her colleague. Megan twohey both from the New York. Times they are Pulitzer Prize winning investigative reporters who first broke the story about Harvey Weinstein and his sexual harassment behavior to say the least Jodie and Megan are co authors of the two thousand eighteen book. She said breaking the sexual harassment story. That helped ignite a movement. Jodi Kantor welcome to on point. Glad to be with you so first of all I. Have you been in touch with many of the women who even speaking to over the years in the in the wake of the Weinstein verdict yesterday and if so what have they told you I had? I actually delivered the news. Tash Lee Judd. Yesterday I called her Emmy told her. I just really a few minutes after the guilty verdict. What had happened and she took a second and he just said this is the way it's supposed to be. This is the way it's supposed to be. And then what did? What did she mean by that? What more does she tell you? I think what team anticipated. Harvey Weinstein signature is lack of accountability. This is a man who manipulated people. Who PRESSURED THEM TO SIGN? Nondisclosure AGREEMENTS PAID PEOPLE OFF Often intimidated and threatened people according to numerous sources and former employees and the idea that he is finally facing accountability. I think meant a tremendous amount to different people. Some people felt closer people. Some people felt Satisfaction. But I think when you look at the power of me too. It's really accountability. That's driven the whole thing. The idea that there are consequences for this kind of behavior is what caused other people to come forward in the first place. Jodi you've been following this story for so long now. I wonder what you make. Of the fact that he was found guilty on those on those two counts against him but but not but not all of them. What's what is the the the implications of that. It was a mixed verdict. Which I think is actually pretty symbolic of me to that. It is very hard to resolve these issues in society and remember that the jury was charged with interpreting a lot of complicated questions about consent. This was by no means You know a sort of Straightforward set of allegations. And so. I think I think we as the Society of the lot of these jurors we ask them to go into a room and resolve things that the rest of us have not really worked out And the U. and Megan wrote a story just yesterday for the Times Following the the the verdict. And it you point out your remind us of the two thousand eighteen verdict against bill cosby the Cosby and the Weinstein verdicts taken together. Do you think that we're we're seeing a change in terms of as you're making put it end of story people's acceptance of the quote messy -ness of these kinds of cases and what it takes to prove? What happened in a court of law? That's the question I mean either. To very high profile cases but especially in the Weinstein trial part of the significance of the verdict comes from the fact that this was a really long shot case in a lot of ways. It was risky for the prosecutors. Some fellow prosecutors didn't even think the New York Attorney New York. Da was right to miss soured And so then the fact that they won this victory means that they may have done something to shift andries of sex crimes prosecutions and whose stories get hurt annoy only heavy for another minute or two more. Jodi because I imagine you're still very busy but there is no problem. I just WanNa ask you one last question. I mean as I'm just wondering if I could ask you to step just a hair outside your role as a as a reporter for a moment and just reflect with me on what this moment meant to you and to Megan in terms of all the work that you put in to do the investigations that drove this issue into the public mind. What does the verdict mean to you? Well thank you for asking. That mean when I would say is that the meaning of this work was clear to me from within the very first phone calls to the very first braves women who told us their stories and we did this work without knowing what we would find what we are others would uncover. What the extent of the allegations are now we can see crimes would turn out to be and we hit the way. Yeah whether Weinstein would be prosecuted or not and and and what would result from that prosecution? You do the story just to find the truth. Knowing the journalism may be the only form of count ability that he faces or knowing that it could lead to something more we'll Jodi cantor is the Pulitzer Prize winning investigative reporter for The New York Times Co author with Megan. Twohey of she said breaking the sexual harassment story. That helped ignite a movement. Jodi thank you very much. Thank you take care.
"Beetlejuice able juice could use. Try Our weekly facts based journey through the cosby help. You understand not only what we know but how we know what we know. I'm Fraser. Cain publisher of University with me as always Pamela. Gay a senior scientist for the Planetary Science Institute and the Director of Cosmic West. Hey Pamela I'm doing well. How are you doing fraser? I'm doing great and I mentioned this in the preamble but I just wanted to say this again. Which is a huge congratulations to our good friend. Dr E-e-e-e-no Neil who just announced that he's going to be working at NASA jet propulsion lab in their media department in is terrific science journalist. One of the best in the business and it's a pretty good fit that he's now working over at NASA he was the editor for the Astronomical Society of the Pacific's Mercury He has been a columnist for discovery and seeker. He did work with us at Universe today. And and this is great. Congratulations Ian Android. GonNa take the next two weeks off. I'M GONNA call it spring break. I'm not going anywhere. I'm just going to be writing software but you sir are going on a grand adventure. Yeah I'm going to Japan with my son and there is. This is not work. This is literally just him. I said where do you WanNa go and he goes? I want to go to Japan and then I waited for cheap tickets to come around and he did and so we're off to Japan of course rough Japan when there's a corona virus of but you know we'll take precautions and it doesn't look like it's that bad they're currently so And I can't wait to see this place. I've wanted to go to Japan all my life and to be able to do. This is going to be a lot of fun. Definitely take pictures. Might Visit a few spacey. Things like the Japanese space agency but this is about. This is about his trip. Not You know now. My trip are able see. You might be surprised to hear that we've never done episode of astronomy cast featuring beetlejuice. Were good news. This is that episode. Let's talk about the Star. Why it might be dimming. And what could happen if it explodes as Super Noah I? I've had to do a search for I actually You know wrote on my intro and I think we suggest that wanted to pursue put on the calendar and like all of this time. We've talked about a Ryan. We've talked about the way stars die and we've obviously mentioned bill many times as a candidate for new supernova but had never actually spent a whole episode on this one specific star. Well obviously good timing on our part because it's so interesting right now So what does beetlejuice? It is a red supergiant star that is visible to both the northern and Southern Hemisphere. We have no hemispheric bias. In choosing this star it has evolved off the main sequence which means it is no longer burning hydrogen in its very core and it probably did this only about a million years ago and now it is systematically burning through heavier and heavier shells of elements deep in its well. Many many solar mass self as it hangs out shining bright in the northern winter and the southern summer and it is. It is a Ryan's right shoulder. I mean when you look at it. Looks like it's on the left but if you were a Ryan and you were facing towards us than it would be his right shoulder and there's some fascinating history on its name and I have to admit I went down a little bit of a rabbit hole. Prepping for this episode. It's it's name is Arabic and yes over. The years has probably been missed. Transcribed so that there are those who believe that it translates as a Ryan's armpit right and this can be caused by dropping a little dot under one of the characters at wrong moment in time It probably has a much better name than a Ryan's armpit. This is still up for a fair amount of discussion. We'll actually one of our one of our viewers Rami amid who speaks Arabic. He's saying that it is the name comes from the Arabic Abbott L. Josiah which literally means the armpit of the mighty hunter so that sounds better than Orion armpit. It's of the mighty hunter it's true. It's yeah true and we. We're going to mispronounce it and of course. The hilarious thing is is how people give us such a hard time. Because they're expecting that it should be beetlejuice. Yes but and we tend to say bail juice and that is. That's a little bit of a holdover from. I think the way they used to describe it before the movie came out. Seattle has has shifted it to Beatlemania. Even that isn't correct so so maybe we can after. The fact may be get Susie to get maybe Romney or someone to do the proper Arabic pronunciation in the show and then you know then that conserve as the as sort of the standby and I've heard a lot of people like even the German say people are say that well. Actually it's a German word but it's not no near Bec- yes it comes from. Yeah it's has an Arabic root so anyway. Yeah so we're going to say bill. And maybe even shifted beetlejuice every now and then Please just just bear with us and however you choose to pronounce it. This isn't an object that was strictly noted and observed by a people living around the Mediterranean Ocean. This is an object that it's variable in its brightness as all of us can currently go out and see and this variability appears to have. I been noted by the aborigines of Australia. It it is a star crops up in the Lore of society after sisters after society but the science the awesome saw. Science is why we're here today because when you ask which objects in the sky are most likely to go boom. This is one of the two ADA crane has the other it is strictly southern hemisphere. Cirilli beetlejuice is the one we want so that all of us can enjoy the experience. And the problem is we don't know when this is going to occur but scientifically reproduced sure. It's not now right but you can hope to be wrong. Yes yes so. It's it's a random event. We'll talk about this a little bit about what's going on and how we might know but So I wanNA talk a bit about just what stage it is kind of star. It is compared to say a star like our Sun. So so how does this star compare to to our son? I radically different. Our our son is because it is ours. It is used as the measuring stick by which we well measure everything outright. It weighs one the Sun. Exactly yeah exactly one. The Sun Beetlejuice is estimated that when it was in the same of illusionary stages that our son when it was on the main sequence burning hydrogen in its core. It's estimated to have been just under twenty solar masses if we had seen it during that stage it would've been one of those bright blue o type stars like we love to enjoy in the Orion Nebula Orion is a massive star forming region. That entire swath of the sky is rich in all the things needed to make stars and there's lots of young stars in that direction well beetlejuice isn't necessarily young. It finished burning all of that hydrogen. But because it's so massive as it evolved off of the main sequence as it expanded out it didn't go through this massive flash that we see in smaller stars where it suddenly was like boom. I'M GONNA burn helium in my core instead because it was so massive it was able to gradually transition into doing this and as it did it just basically migrated sideways across the color magnitude diagram. That hurts been Russel Diagram ending up in the top center of that diagram being cool red and kind of unable to hold onto all of its atmosphere.
Dr. Lydiana Garcia Discusses Teen Sexual Abuse
"Have Dr Louisiana Garcia here for Tell us where you're from again. What city of practicing. I am originally from Puerto Rico. But I'm practicing in West. La So thank you so much for being here. We're GONNA be talking about a heavy topic today so I'm going to go ahead again and give a trigger warning. This episode is going to be about sexual abuse in teens. And we're going to talk about the impact that that has in the family because we can't avoid it. There is going to be effective at the family. Has Dr Liana Garcia? Can you tell us what defines sexual abuse? Yes so there's many different ways of defining Ed but in general is any unwanted on unsolicited. Any kind of sexual interaction. It could be a touching cosby of exposing themselves. It could be on want to touch. It could be all the way to a penetration or any of that kind of sword but in general is that unwanted unsolicited nonconsensual touch and specifically with sexual abuse. Because from my understanding sexual abuse is in regards to children and sexual assault is in regards to adults. Is that correct? Well I guess it's also depending on what kind of Big comes up and it can go so many different ways and yeah but in general child abuse from how it's define is anything related including pornography. That's why I mentioned the whole part of on wanted exposure and with sexual abuse there was one parent that had asked this in social media. Can children sexually abused one another as well? Because the conception is that adults abused children but can it be the other way around I believe so yes and Independent on the stage with the law becomes tricky about the ages but definitely if one byner is showing any force any unwanted unsolicited nonconsensual way of demonstrating sexual behavior than it could be considered on the the rooms. Okay and we'll touch more about this in a little bit. Do you have any statistics about teens? That have been sexually abused. Yes this is based on the R. A. I N. Dot Org Wayne in. It's about sixty percent of twelve to seventeen year olds are victims of sexual abuse and thirty four percent on the age of twelve. So is really high and they have this kind of visuals that are it can be very intense because they like every eleven minutes a child protective certain service substantiates finds evidence of a claim of sexual child sexual abuse and in terms of girls. It's about every four to every five girls are being sexually abused. So and females ages sixteen to nineteen hundred four times more likely than the general population to be victims of rape attempt rate or sexual assaults. Yeah and these are statistics that they have from those that have reported it but there are still so so many more that go unreported as yes in also depending. But I've seen a lot in the Latino culture as well 'cause we don't we don't talk about it and then a lot of the times most of the cases the perpetrator. It's someone in the finals of that is some good than have a lot of back in the funniest well. Yeah that statistic is actually high. It's more commonly to be abused by someone in your family versus than by a stranger which is contrary to what we're taught stranger danger. Yeah and that's why right now you should. It's more about teaching children since their shoulder. Not Wait till they're adolescent to start recognizing besides the basic of not here not touched there by anyone but also to start recognizing very kind of instinct and whenever they feel like. Something's not o k into also not promote secrets because you should lead the perpetrator someone in the family or someone that defending knows includes a lot of secret like we don't tell this don't tell anyone etc etc yeah and bribing as well to maintain that secret so it's always important to just be in communication with your child regardless of age even if they're a teen as tougher. But what are the common signs that your team is being abused? Yeah so they were usually see our drastic changes or it could be very slow. Changes INCREMENT CHANGES IN THEIR DAILY FUNCTIONING. For example in sleep patterns may be right now. They're sleeping more or sleeping lies and any kind of saying that they're having nightmares or difficulty falling asleep new fears of not wanting to go somewhere sometimes issues with eating in their school. They might have some their grades might go down or they might not want to go to school or they might not want to be somewhere. If it's someone in the family day suddenly the WanNa go to a place that they're used to going. They can have mood swings they can have ability. They can become sometimes violent or express anger in that way but usually like any kind of sudden changes in a lot of clients also changes in their appearance. A lot of times. There's a great movie. I will not remember the name probably that I love it speak. That's the name he has in. It's a beautiful movie. I mean I work with this but is a great movie to display that whole house. She changed as a result of the in that case it was the rape in her appearance. She started to wear hoodies and wanted to go outside in in their disabled and her hair was messy and Baggy clothing. And all those not wanting to be with her friends stuff. Like what yeah. I've often also heard of people that also eat more to gain weight to appear less quote unquote attractive as a defense mechanism. Where the other way around as well. Because if they don't need the Loser Meneses of that kind of stuff. You can go to another year. Any of these signs that you have mentioned can also can also be considered as the same signs to be able to notice if your teen has been sexually abused in the past or is being sexually abused. Guess I would say yes. And if it's something that has been going for a while and the team does not feel comfortable with the parent. It might be a little harder for a minor to kind of express themselves to the parents or try to hide it but a lot of times parents start noticing changes. Even if it's subtle and I would always tell the moms in the pairs that come to my practice is alarms. They know that something is wrong. They might not know what it is but they know something's wrong. I often hear that it's drugs in our culture or their friends there with the wrong crowd and all those who wished that could happen as well as drug could be a coping mechanism. Yes it can but typically if your child has not been engaging in that and there isn't any sign of that and your child has disclosed sexual abuse we cannot invalidate that an go towards another extreme. The let's talk about the best way of handling that so if you're team discloses that they have been abused than what is the best way to handle this. I always recommend to not go against it. Like to not say that did not happen to really. Just listen to them and believe them from the get-go the more than the parents resisted. Then it becomes this horrible dynamic fighting of. Who's right or WHO's wrong. Any could be so detrimental in the teens kind of health journey if they feel that the parents believed them as opposed to not believe in
"cosby" Discussed on Chasing Cosby
"Mean she was able to rumors times. Look right at the jury and talk with the jury share with jury that she suffered at the hands of Mr Hostile and how Mr Cosby put her in. This no-win position and why she ultimately they could no longer work hours next Andrea Constand takes the stand and this was the testimony everyone had been waiting for and the courtroom so quiet you can hear a pin drop. Andreas forty four years old. Now her hair short and she's all business. Uh she no longer has her long red curls or the carefree smile from the photo widely circulated of her back in two thousand five by had one job in. My job was to tell the truth. Despite feeling uncomfortable feeling overwhelmed feeling all the stress in the courtroom and the jury the in the journalists. I did the best that I could and got up. There cosby swivels. His chair to face her. The comedian recipes Chen on the palm of his hand hand thoughtful expression on his face. I tried to be as relaxed as possible. But it's very uncomfortable for any person who's a sexual assault victim in a trial to get up and recount and rehash everything that happened and to be face to face with the person in who wrong you in the court. The lawyers it was not a comfortable scenario. Andrea begins her story how she first needs Cosby How he starts reaching out to help the temple women's basketball team slowly? They build a mentor ship. A Friendship Andrea recounts one visit at his Elkins Park home in which cosby places a hand on her thigh. Another visit a few months later Andrea says cosby touch her again. This time reaching toward the Zipper of her hands. She pushes his hand away and says I'm not here for that. I don't want that cosby tells it differently. Here's what he says in his deposition position. I don't hear her say anything and I don't feel her saying anything so I continue and I go into the area. That is somewhere between permission and rejection I am not stopped. No meant no. You have a right to say whether you want. Somebody's hand off. Your I mean this is a conversation that is really starting into happen. In in a very big way now then Andrea walks the jury through the details of the January. Two thousand four saw the one that we told you about the first episode of this podcast which Cosby said was consensual after that night because cosby was on temples. Board of trustees than an Andrea was working for the women's basketball team. She tried to keep things Professional Andrea testifies that one day desperate for answers she drives to his house and ask the comedian. The and what did you give me two which cosby replies. I thought you had an orgasm didn't you. I did not injury says after the Andrea finishes our story. Cosby's attorney cross examined her for seven hours. Why did you hire a lawyer before reporting the assault to the police? Why did you call cosby fifty three times after the assault? Why did you go to cosby shows with your parents after the assault and on and on and on here's prosecutor Kristen? Federal Andre did a tremendous job on this and she maintained her composure. And you always hope that when you close out a case that your victim or witness that they're honesty shines through all of those attacks injury. MOM takes the witness stand next. It's an emotional testimony testimony and at one point John Constand breaks into tears still plays a key piece of evidence for the jury. The recorded. Phone call of Jonah Questioning cosby about what happened that night in January two thousand four cosby doesn't react. I tried to just concentrate on what I had to say. Okay and I did feel his vibes but I didn't really look. I tried to avoid looking at him. The lawyers make their closing arguments. And the the jury begins its deliberations we leave the courtroom to await a verdict for six days. The Jerry debates the arguments presented in the case ace later learned from press coverage that things got extremely heated one juror punched another started smoking again. Many tears were Chad finally on a gloomy Saturday morning judge Steven. O'Neill cost everyone back to the courtroom. The jury deliberated for more than fifty two hours over six days. But this morning they told the judge they could not reach a unanimous verdict on any of the three counts of aggravated. Aided indecent assault mistrial was declared today the sexual assault case against Bill Cosby..
"cosby" Discussed on Chasing Cosby
"After she wraps up a role lily tells cosby she's going to report port him to the police. He said he's GonNa ruin my career. I did tell people whom I trust it until my agent. My agent tried so hard to convince me to go to the police in the end. Lily couldn't couldn't bring herself to go to the cops. She was too afraid of what cosby might do. But that threat was still undermined. Twenty three years later when Lilly was struggling with whether or not ought to go public with her story. We should say here that we sent an email to cosby spokesman asking for a response to the details on lily story but he declined to comment it. I was afraid of the retaliation that would endure from bill cosby and the disbelief. And then there's a whole level of being a black woman right more than a third of us. Bill cosby survivors are black women. We have an extra burden in speaking out against him because the black public attacks us for having brought the the black man down mm-hmm and so one of my celebrity friends came to my house and said you're GONNA be okay. A lot of the industry knows lily. Bernard finally does decide to take her story to the police and to the public in May two thousand fifteen lily. Final question to you sixty seconds. How would you respond to the defenders? Bill cosby speed. If and when I'm called to testify under oath I will present all the details along with evidence. Finally the allegations begin to catch up with bill cosby mark. Whitaker the author of a new bill cosby. biography is apologizing for not pursuing allegations that the comedian had brought in sexually assaulted numerous women NBC ditches. It's planned and bring bill cosby back to prime time. This after Netflix postponed the cosby special indefinitely to have caused these appearances on talk. Shows have been canceled. TV Land stopped airing reruns of the cosby show Coming up in the next episode of chasing a new firestorm surrounds bill cosby. This time is because of his own words original not the accusations about when that deposition came out I was shocked. He said what he did. He admitted what he did. He specifically we mentioned my name. I couldn't believe the way he made light of. It felt like dirty. I gotta say all of the Information Mashed. That's out there kinda points to Gilles. Jason Cosby reported hosted by me Nikki. Weisensee being in the Los Angeles Times podcast and a production of La Times studios and hers Aachen Company. Our producer is Alexandra. Zaslov our audio engineers are Angus spottiswoode pizza arto Brett whitlow by Kathleen and Eric. Montgomery production help from page Heinsohn Erin Sands Hands and Robert Glenn Smith the original music you heard in this podcast was composed by allison. Leyton Brown are sound designed by snap. Sound thanks to everyone who granted us access to their archives. You can find the list at La Times dot com slash chasing cosby. Jason Cosby is executive produced by fight Abby Venture Swanson for the Los Angeles Times Mark Herzog and ending Beckerman for Hers Organ Company and Me Nikki. Weisensee Egan if you're the victim of sexual the assault or know someone who is you can get helped by calling the national sexual assault hotline at one eight hundred six five six four six seven three.
"cosby" Discussed on Chasing Cosby
"He just raped me and this is what he's sending me. I was beyond beyond myself. I was hysterical. He doesn't know what to do after the assault. She starts telling her supervisor and she said to me. Well you know that hefner's best friend right. I said I nobody raped me to run me. I don't know what he gave me. She said if you want your job I suggest you shut your mouth a day or two later she confides in a high school friend who confirms. PJ was extremely distraught. One person is raped. Your Body audio raped but your soul and your spirit is raped you can never get back skull. I'm not had an intimate relationships szucs since I don't trust anybody we sent an email to cosby spokesman asking for a response to the details and PJ story but he declined to comment. PJ still has the note cosby center. Mary Ellen O'Toole says icon. Intimidation keeps victims of sexual assault from coming forward when they're attacked by someone toll is a retired. FBI profiler an icon is someone who has more power or influence than their victims. It's someone the victim possibly reveres respects and wants to have a reciprocal liking return. O'Toole says icons can be priests rabbis boy scout leaders or celebrities basically anyone with more power and influence than his or her victim carefully honed. Public Image is not only help them attract their prey but also service their cover the icon can build upon that trust with the victim by showering attention on him or her and at times even their families but they want something happens like perhaps been drugged or sexually assaulted. They blame themselves. They might even ask themselves. What did I do wrong? And if a perpetrator traitor likes to drugs his victims before he sexually assaulted them. That could be part of his. Mo something that you do over and over so you don't get caught an icon has the power stature to sway the public law enforcement and of course his or her victim. PJ TOLD HER STORY TO CNN. The The New York Daily News and New York magazine and she was just one of many women starting to open up. Here's Andrea Constand. It was very eye-opening beyond my wildest wildest imagination. I never thought that in two thousand fourteen that I would be witnessing more women coming forward. I had really come a long way for so many years moving on with my life and it was the opening again of a wound that I had tried so desperately to patch up. I'm Lily Bernard and I survived being drugged and sexually assaulted by bill. Cosby Lily Renard is a striking cuban-american actor artist awesome. She played Mrs Minniefield Zany enormously. Pregnant patient of Dr Huxtables on the Cosby show. Let's rewind to Nineteen Ninety when she was twenty six years old lily. I got to know Bill Cosby at an open. Casting call for the show part of the grooming was that he interrogated me with so so many questions. He told me that he needed to know everything about me. In order to better be able to help me. Bill cosby spoke to my mom on the phone own and he told both my dad in person. And I'm on the phone. How much he loved me as if I were his daughter because bill cosby often said I love you? As if you were my daughter I care about you as if you were my child. I have recordings of him saying saying to me. You know you're one of my kids Bernard and he told my parents and he was taking care of me as if I were. One of. His kids begin rehearsing scenes together. Cosby promises Lily. Really a big role on his show and says he'll do everything in his power to help her acting career. One day cosby invites lily to the Taj Mahal hotel in Atlantic City ready to discuss her future. Now we're up in the sweet this palatial suite and bill cosby brings me this drink and it's Brown and he's very enthusiastic and and bubbly and choking and and told me that I had to drink it. It tasted to me horrible because I didn't drink alcohol as MR C. I don't drink alcohol. He kind of nervously went back to the kitchen area and came back with another drink and it was still brown and this time it was sweet. Like maybe he put coca-cola in it or something but it tasted horrible. I didn't have any reason not to trust him. And within just a few minutes all of a sudden the room started spinning and I felt really dizzy and I felt like I had Tom. I remember covering my mouth and thinking that I'm going to explode projectile vomit. Now I did not think that he had drugged me. I thought tank it. Food poisoning from the lobster.
"cosby" Discussed on Chasing Cosby
"From the Los Angeles Times. I'm Nikki Aqui. Weisensee Egan and this is chasing cosby episode. Three fold them again. As I mentioned at the end of our last episode I packed up my cosby files. In two thousand six. After Andrea Constand settled her lawsuit with him things had been relatively quiet since then. His name is Mark Whitaker Right. He's written a new book called Cosby his life and times. Good Morning Mark. Whitaker morning in two thousand fourteen former Newsweek editor Mark Whitaker published a biography about Cosby cosby. There's no mention of sexual assault in the book. It climbs the bestseller lists. Meanwhile cosby has a new television show in the works cosby Osborne returning to NBC for a new Sitcom. We're told he'll play the patriarch of a Multi Generational family new show brings the seventy six year. Old Comedian back to the the same network that helped him launch his groundbreaking cosby show series. That ran for eight years after Hannibal Birth Cosby out at the chocolate darrow. COSBY does cancel. Gansler postponed a few appearances. One on the late show with David Letterman and one on the Queen Latifah show but cosby still seem untouchable. There's no sense. His image is being tarnished by the allegations of sexual assault in November. Two thousand fourteen. He and his wife Camille make time to talk about sixty two pieces of art. They're learning to the Smithsonian. Here's an interview with the Associated Press. I have to ask about your name coming up in the news recently regarding comedian. No we don't answer in that. Okay I just wanted to ask if you wanted to on at all about whether any of that was true. That's no response and I asked you if the persona that people know about bill cosby should they believe anything differently about what areas no comment. I meant about that and I tell you why I thank you. We're told now. Can I get something from you that none of that will be shown and I would appreciate it if it was scuttled. I hear you I I will tell my editors and I think if you WANNA consider yourself to be serious that it will not appear anywhere then. New York Daily News reporter Chelsea arose. Marc's gets an assignment to die for. I was driving around Manhattan and I get a call from my editor and she says you know High Chelsea I you know we got a phone call a few minutes ago. From a man who says he was someone that worked at NBC and he said that he knows things about cosby from having worked with him directly. Her editor tells her to go interview him so drives to an assisted living facility Elodie in Lakewood New Jersey. She meets with a ninety year. Old Man there named Frank Scott Eastern with gray hair enlarge silver frame glasses in his room home. The first thing Chelsea notices is all the photographs of frank and Bill Cosby. There was one that was of him and bill. That was obviously a portrait trick of the two that had been professionally done. And they're you know smiling standing close to each other and right below that there was another picture of Franken in cooking a big Italian meal for Bill Cosby and a lot of people. There was another Picture of Cosby Black White and bill cosby had signed signed the photograph to Frank. Scotty my friend just starts firing off her questions. Why do you WanNa talk about bill cosby? Now what do you know in. Why do you WanNa talk about now? He goes. I can't die with knowing what I know and not having told the story. My name is Frank Scotty. I Bet Mr Cosby the coffee shop in Greenwich Village. And this isn't about nineteen sixty five. You didn't have any money so I gave him up with Chaney which coffee that he loves cosby would often come. I'm in say hello to Frank. How're you and frank would remember him for? The neighborhood Cosby went out to California to do. I spy spy was the assignment who was head on a bladder. I think I can rain that fast. Forward about fifteen years in the eighties when the cosby show was was airing cosby and frank meet again when frank is now a facility manager at NBC cosby remembered him and said you know. I really want you to be my right hand. Man Man Frank had so much to do with Set Design on the cosby show. Who came in who came out? He told me the president of the United States could could call and cosby would have said. Oh talk to frank. He often stood in front of addressing room. Where cosby would ask to see a model title? Would I wanNA talk about talk about money orders that I have that sent the women all United States and Europe. Why would every every sending some women two thousand dollars suspicious? It's almost as if he knew when the time was right he was going to maybe shared this story three and I think as the accusations mounted there was this sort of pressure upon him that he felt inside of him that he had to come forward. I I felt dirty. I just felt you know. He's not the person I thought he was. The article runs in the New York. Daily News and NBC. News Interview Scotty. To both outlets run photos of the money orders the money orders have scotties name on them but Scotty says the money he came from cosby and was money cosby directed. He Pay Women Chelsea S. Y.. Scotty kept the money orders all these years because well. I didn't know what I was going to do with them but I felt like they might become useful at some Scotty dies five months after the story runs. Perhaps a little more peace since unburdening himself in response to Scotties accusations Cosby's attorneys tell NBC News. It appears that his story is pure speculation so that he can and get his fifteen minutes of fame. Some of the women mentioned in the Daily News story later denied the payments were improper nonetheless. Scotty story made an impact For the first time a cosby insider has broken ranks. A man who says he now believes he helped bill cosby victimize women. We hope you're enjoying chasing cosby. A podcast rooted in investigative journalism brought to you by the Los Angeles Times in an effort to bring you all sides of the story. Let's take a moment to look at this podcast itself and how it got made. Our journalists writers editors producers sound engineers and composers each played an important role in bringing this podcast to life. But you played a role too if you're a subscriber to the Los Angeles Times your individual subscription helped helped us fund and create chasing Cosby if you're enjoying our podcast but don't already have a subscription to the Los Angeles Times please sign up just go to la times dot com slash subscribe because every single subscription helps us to keep making the programming. You already love. They re more. Bill cosby accusers are coming forward. The women held a press conference in Los Angeles.
"cosby" Discussed on Chasing Cosby
"When Tamara contacted me in two thousand five and told me this story I was stunned. There are now two women saying cosby did this to them. It's one of those moments as a reporter. You know your member for the rest of your life I do a background check on Tamara and confirm that she told the details of her story to her cousin. Close friend and ex husband years before I also also reach out to Cosby for comment. His lawyer tells me Cosby doesn't recognize tomorrow's name and that this incident never happened in the years since Cosby's maintain this position and when I reached out to him recently. His spokesman declined to comment on this podcast between hitting the gym eating cleaner or learning a new skill. There are a lot of ways we can better ourselves in the new year yet. I can't think of one resolution. That's it's more important than tackling high interest credit card debt but taking charge of your finances consumed daunting and unmanageable making it. Impossible to know where to begin. That's where upstart dot com comes in. Upstart is the revolutionary lending platform that offers smarter rates to help you pay off high interest credit card. Debt upstart goes beyond the traditional personal credit score when assessing your credit worthiness they make it fast simple and easy to check your rate and since it's just a soft poll it won't even affect your credit score. Upstart is so easy. That over four hundred thousand people have used the platform to pay off credit cards and meet their financial goals. See for yourself. Why upstart is ranked number one in their category with over three hundred businesses on trust pilot and hurry to upstart dot com slash cosby to find out how low your upstart rate can be checking? Your rate only takes a few minutes so go to upstart dot com slash cosby to get started today as we prepare to run. Tamara story in the Philadelphia. Daily News back in two thousand some five cosby's lawyers threatened to sue but that doesn't stop us when it's published. The headline on the cover of the paper reads my cosby story. When I got a copy of the Philadelphia Daily News and saw the whole front page was my face I can tell you gave gave me a start? The phone began to ring off the hook. And I did give permission for people to reach me because you know in for a penny in in for a pound. Whoever asked me for an interview during that period of time I gave them an interview Here's tomorrow on the Greta van. Susteren show him from Dayton Ohio. Hi was sent an email Tomorrow maybe maybe you can ask those force it says Greta Tamar Green sounds credible. But please ask her how she could grab a lamp to throw. If for motor skills were so impaired. How do you answer that tomorrow? You put your arm out and you grab the first thing that you can reach. Because that's the only thing you can do the following morning morning. Tomorrow's interview with Matt Lauer on the Today Show is one of America's most respected entertainers and philanthropist. Hiding dark secret or is he a convenient target in a game of he said she said I had an interview with Matt. Lauer who was very imperious about the whole thing on Wednesday talked to green and asked her why she waited thirty years. Here's why didn't you call the police after the medication wore off while you know because First of all I was very ill the reason I took the MED medication. Because I have some vile flew a week later. What about days later? Well let me tell you the thing is and I understand this about the current victim victim. The first thing you feel is stupid and then you feel that no one will believe you. This is the Great Bill Cosby. I know what happened. And he knows what happened. And and if I am the only other victims besides the president victim. That's too too many then that evening. She's on the Abrams report on. MSNBC you know women did not just go running off to the police station when they were wide little fair enough but it has been a great move thirty years. I mean you've had thirty years of opportunities since then to to come forward I wouldn't say so I mean the girl who's being charged in Philadelphia waited eleven months and everybody's sticking up there no saying that she waited too long. Everybody has an idea about how you're supposed to react to what you're supposed to do what you woulda Coulda Shoulda done. But they've never been there they haven't been molested Daytona mm-hmm next up tomorrow on the big story on Fox News. I want to read a statement from Bill. COSBY's lawyer responding to the allegations that says quote. Ms Screen screen is peddling a highly defamatory fictional story about something she claims occurred with Mr Cosby three decades ago. Further says her claims are false fabricated undefended Matori. Mr Cosby denies her assertions. What do you say to that? Well what do you expect him to say. Tamara defends her story again. And again. Tomorrow since you've come forward you've taken a lot of heat Some things in your back or not come out of Dui and some of the things with the Bar Association and you know. I expected that you know my my life is not perfect but my life is pretty clean. Victims are always blamed. Dr Barbara is it is a forensic psychiatrist in Pennsylvania. There blamed for their appearance for their behavior. Their blamed for their subsequent behavior there blamed for for their behavior. Prior to the sexual assault which is a powerful disincentive for anybody to come forward with sexual assault kind. Tomorrow wasn't the only one making the rounds. A news and talk shows joining me. Now is Philadelphia Daily News reporter Nicole Watson Siegen Siegen and who interviewed the second woman to come forward and accuse bill cosby. I gladly took the press opportunities to defend my reporting and to defend Tamara. A story and of course Andrea Story because team is basically you know they seem to be chastising the paper for going forward with the story even after they denied it. What do you make of that? Typical strong handed tactics by them. They want to try to clamp down on anything that might possibly put the people that the person they work for in a bad light. I mean there's a lot of intimidation going on frankly. One of the issues that kept coming up was whether or not tomorrow would be allowed to testify should be charged with entry of sexual assault. While I think certainly when someone comes out and makes an allegation that is a similar m o to the president allegation any prosecutors cuter. Antennas go up but make no mistake about this. As everyone on the panel knows this having happened thirty years ago was in no way admissible in a criminal court Aw that's even the issue. Go ahead Nicole. I want to correct something that your guests just said. It is possibly admissible in Pennsylvania core this woman's testimony money today and now a judge to rule on this but it has been ruled admissible in other cases. First of all you is she an attorney. Meanwhile cosby's attorney Marty Singer kept calling trying to get me to back off the story and threatening to sue the daily news producers told. Let me Cosby's team was trying to keep me from appearing on TV to talk about my reporting. This is one. I learned the phrase trading up which is giving up one story to get a better one. I keep digging to see what I can find and in the days and weeks ahead I will learn the assaults reported by Tamara Green and Andrea Constand. We're just the tip of the iceberg following in the footsteps of Andrian Tamara. Twelve more women come forward with stories connecting in Cosby to drugs and assault. They're willing to testify in a criminal trial and eventually become Jane does one through twelve and a civil suit Andrea would later file against cosby. One of them is Becky Cooper. I was drugged and assaulted by bill. Cosby in one thousand nine hundred eighty two. Becky is a twenty twenty-eight-year-old massage therapist at Tennyson Health Club in Las Vegas. That's where she needs. Bill Cosby I've saw just about every day. He was very friendly in. We became friends. I thought he was building trust. One day he came up to me and said that he had a hurt shoulder from playing tennis so oh I told him that I could work on him. So let's go out by the pool. Just a co Ed area and And he said no no no come to my show get a bite to eat and then you can work on me after the show Becky's already seen cosby show but thanks okay. Why not so? She watches him perform at the Las Vegas Hilton. That Friday night then goes to dinner with him at the hotel. Restaurant cosby leads becky to his regular booth. He said I'll get you a drink and without even ordering a drink. One of his guys. It came down and said it in front of me and it was a shot of stolley. Schnee I remember because Stolley Sny had just gotten popular becky takes one. SIP cosby encourages her to drink the shot all at once so she does and He said okay. We've got to go and I said we haven't eaten dinner yet. That and he said we don't have time now and when I stood up I could feel that something was wrong.
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"To start so the folks there matter and boy did they have opinions bill cosby used about dude terresa smith had a lot to say she invited me in and told me how disappointed she was i feel though that bill cosby is so guilty apples doe that bill cosby took a vantage of these young girls debt was coming up and i think that bill light did the power of it and i think that regardless if he's eighty years old and that that dead man's should go to jail not everybody in cosby's onate hood agrees mike stephen says that the prosecution's been on a witch hunt this man is something special in life to all his achievements and like eighty years old you wanna send him the jail behinds some of these allegations them very well may be been false i don't believe you should be in jail and this should be not guilty richard long saw justice in the verdict will i think he guilty a lot of people have been getting away with a lot of things for a long time and it finally caught up richard that's all he no he guilty he you know he but long doesn't think justice means putting the eighty year old in jail and he's not the only one there's a whole host of ways that victims can heal from crimes and it doesn't always mean locking someone up behind bars retu lopez is a law professor at drexel university her work focuses on restorative justice she says harsh punishment is not always what victims want or need some victims find trials healing but there's some that actually don't they find it really traumatizing and sometimes revictimizes survivors and so i think that we as a society as on the whole need to think of alternative or sort of complementary ways of dealing with society's ills cosby has dozens of accusers but his conviction applies to only one victim andrea constant this time around a handful of witnesses were allowed to testify in court lopez says that giving other victims chance to confront cosby can also be kind of justice it could also be something similar to happen in the nassar sentencing hearing where.
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"From whyy in philadelphia this is cosby unraveled i'm your host and net john hall andrea constant was an asked if she wanted any t when she arrived at bill cosby's house for career advice in january of two thousand four cosby gave her three pills friends he called them and a glass of wine that he said would take the edge off constant took the pills she said she thought they were herbal and says she soon lustre strength and a woke cosby sexually assaulting her he said he didn't hear her say no she said she was too out of it in consejo anything it was somewhere between permission and rejection that's how cosby described the sexual encounter in two thousand five deposition that she agreed to take the pills is not up for dispute what this case boils down to is whether or not she agreed to sex in this type of case it's so much a he said she said situation and so the question of consent is hard to prove because they have to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt that's the criminal standard dr jill huntley taylor is a trial consultant who prepares witnesses and advises attorneys on jury selection consent is the same issue the jury had to deal with in the first trial which ended in a mistrial himself thing goes in two thousand five position when they're asking them when you use the word consent he said opening yourself word bobby dugan was on the first jury he told dateline nbc that cosby's refusal to use the word consent convinced him to convict he said one key element could have made a big difference in the case evidence.
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"Knowing full well bill cosby had raped me the previous evening and his semen was in between my legs why vagina and my rectum cosby denies the allegations against him typically we don't identify victims of sexual assault but dickinson along with four other witnesses have shared their stories publicly and appeared on the cover of new york magazine back in twenty fifteen i'm lisa lot lou blend when i was chalan lhasa my name is heidi thomas i'm janice baker kenny the details of their accounts are strikingly similar i was called to meet with bill cosby as a model in las vegas and he drugged me and i believe he sexually assaulted me i know i woke up naked i know i have seen it on my body i was sexually assaulted drugged and raped by i met bill cosby at the age of twenty four and i was flown to reno nevada and sexually assaulted when i thought i was going for acting coaching i was twenty four years old as attender at harrison reno where mr cosby was performing i was invited to a party where i accept it drugs from him and was sexually assaulted all of the stories involve women being drugged and sexually assaulted that seems to support plane of andrea constant who says cosby gave her pills that left her feeling paralyze then violated her at his suburban philadelphia home kospi doesn't deny he gave her the pills but he says it was consensual and if you heard our last episode cosby had a few things to say about drugging women.
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"I sat alone and watch the show and i never saw any sign of his family we reached out to cosby through a spokesperson andrew wyatt he didn't return our calls in a sworn deposition back in two thousand five cosby admitted to giving women prescription quaid lutes before sex he says it was all consensual still one question that we hear repeatedly is why in the world would a successful wealthy celebrity icon like bill cosby who could have anybody he wanted need to drug women for sex it's power combined with sexual deviancy and predatory behavior mary ellen tool is a former fbi profiler and director of the forensic science program at george mason university she wouldn't comment directly on cosby's case because the trial is ongoing but she did offer insights into types of behaviors she seeing in her nearly thirty years years with the fbi i've seen cases before where the offender gave some kind of drugs to the victim not only to fog her memory after the fact but also because of the things that that he wanted to do to her the offender wants to make the victim hazy so she forgets about the crime or he wants to perform acts that the woman would object to so he makes her unconscious but is that the only reason i don't think we've asked the right question i think the the larger question is is why exactly did he drug them dr brandy stewardess a psychologist at the joseph j peters institute in philadelphia she works with victims of abuse and sex offenders.
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"Think about the metoo movement they heard about it david rudolph ski is a civil rights attorney and philadelphia he says both the defense and the prosecution need to address me too especially when choosing a jury they'd been affected by it probably in one way or the other the question is how deep that impact is but doskiyev warns the prosecution of relying too much on me to four guilty verdict he says a recent criminal case of a yale student accused of rape might be a cautionary tale they were friends there was some contact between them she eventually says it was forcible sex he says it wasn't on a lot of people thought well with the metoo movement and everything else it's going to be hard case for that defendant the jury acquitted who adopt ski says it really comes down to those twelve individual jurors a couple of jurors afterwards said we're aware of the metoo movement were also wear that you know that things aren't always you know night and day it's not always that clear what happens and thought the prosecution had proved the case the evidence and the facts in this new trial are pretty much insane andrea constant comes to bill cosby suburban philadelphia home he gives her three pills that she says left her paralysed she alleges that's when he assaults her according to kospi whatever happened that night with andrea constant was consensual and constant story is unlikely to change.
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"Be like oh i love louis c k and you might you might not have heard i talk about a once a new accuser comes up we actually said a ham house asian about who's conversation being had on this level and this scale is long overdue let the question me names how will the metoo conversation seep into our criminal justice system and the cosby retrial there's been a power dynamic shift gloria allred is a civil rights attorney who's worked on women's issues for over forty years she's featured in the netflix documentary seen allred women who have had the courage to speak out rich famous powerful men have to understand there are rules there are boundaries they must represent some of cosby's accusers now the persons who have been silenced to have feared victim shaming victim blaming now they're speaking out and now the accused her the ones who are afraid of being blamed and being shamed so we're living in a new age all can't predict how the metoo movement will affect the trial but the court will allow five additional women to testify this time around along with plaintiff andrea constant these women will likely testify about being drugged and sexually assaulted by cosby it is very important to the prosecution to be able to call these other witnesses so it's not a matter of the alleged victim andrea constants testimony versus mr cosby's denial we don't even know if he'll take the witness stand i doubt it cosby has maintained his innocence his lawyers fought the introduction of other accusers and they argue that cosby's going to have a hard time getting a fair trial because of metoo you gotta meet that hit on you can't put your head in the sand and say will i hope these trope jurors don't order.
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"Subject just in cases kissing even damning tape of candidate donald trump didn't stop his rise to president trump you can do anything grabbing by the pussy do anything zero consequences but something was happening anger is building and building and then there's the story about harvey weinstein and in that case that was the thing that cracked open the window sexual harassment allegations movie mogul harvey weinstein has been forced out of his own company and then all of it has come pouring out like a volcano today i am announcing that in the coming weeks i will be resigning as member of the united states senate breaking news overnight matt lauer has been terminated from nbc news longtime newsman charlie rose fired from cbs news louis c k has spoken out about the sexual misconduct allegations against him saying the claims are true accusations against weinstein created a domino effect we've been forced to have a national conversation about why it is that women's versions of stories haven't been believed we're at the point where meat to pass change the culture everyone is talking about consent and sexual harassment i talk about it all the time with my partner i remember seeing relatives posting me two stories that i never knew about like close roses people my wife and i have talked about it and i was curious i asked her like had this happen to you at work in bars in relationships with friends levers parents it's on the tip of everyone's tongue we're making jokes out of it now so now we're always going well me too enrolling our is people are terrified to talk about appearance too many backlashes had said to like not everybody has two story and i was at dinner with a group of women and they were all know every woman has a story there have been many conversations will somebody who.
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"Laura mcchrystal didn't make any assumptions about what the actor and comedian may have meant by that comment but whether he likes it or not bill cosby is in me to in june twenty seventeen when the sexual assault trial of bill cosby ended in a mistrial most of us had never heard of the hashtag me metoo by name is toronto burke i'm gonna founder of the metoo movement burke a victim of sexual assault herself started the work to give women and girls of color who experienced sexual violence a way to be heard the message of me to the same message across the board sexual violence knows no race no color no gender or class but the response to sexual violence does even though she created the slogan about ten years ago while working with marginalized girls in alabama it didn't get the notice it deserved until hollywood got a hold of it ashley judd telling her story it's her first television interview exploded harvey wines and every weinstein is facing a new bombshell allegation of his own it comes from actress salma hayek valves all through bit younger share in her disturbing story she suddenly scores of women are speaking out against powerful men and they're being believed that's the big difference between the first cosby trial and where we are today what happened with bill cosby was a preview of what's happened on a broader national scale rebecca trae stir is an author and journalist covering feminist issues for new york magazine for years there were these allegations against cosby that had been made public but that nobody really seemed to care about right people knew about them but nobody really wanted to consider what they meant nobody really wanted to reckon with them more than sixty women came forward to accuse cosby of sexual assault on incidents going back decades.