11 Burst results for "club of Rome"
"club rome" Discussed on The Steve Czaban Show
"Own Get the drums. You! Get pipes and drums. You ever see the Scottish. Royal. Drum. Yeah Four. Josh no Gilgal it right now A. Unbelievable if you're a fantasy, if you're a fan of drumline, can take those awful cacophonous bagpipes down now. Just taken out yellow. Would, you, would you? Would you say Scottish Scottish Dash? drumline that textures help us out four and four, seven, nine, nine, one, nine, seven three. Amazing Drum Corps. If you're a fan of drum lines is of course I am an anyone with a progressive heart is. There arguably the best in the world. They have a like a festival every year. Forget what they call it and it's just basically the drum corps showing off, not just drumming, but also marching and doing stuff it's a it's a whole deal. It's pretty amazing. But the Ryder Cup. It's not we were facing the possibility that the PJ of America and the European PGA which run the event. They run the event and they make A. Lotta money, get her nose this as a still PJ professional. This is the annual budget times. Oh? Yeah, wanted this. This fills this funds everything in the organization that event that in the in the an actual PJ championship the to cash Calvin and so. I think what the possibility was. They might say well. Sorry Wisconsin! You're going to have to get kicked out a line. We're GONNA. Keep everything marching ahead. Next year will do Presidents Cup. which is wears it. Does anyone knows anyone Garrett's? And then we'll do twenty twenty two. We'll do twenty twenty two Ryder Cup which is scheduled for where I'd have to look that one up and we'll try to slip you in Wisconsin in quail hollow is going to be the next twelve Knowns Cup Presidents Cup Kuala about the next. Ryder Cup over in Europe and twenty twenty two was gonna be Rome. What Yep. Pick gave a writer company Italy Marco. Simone Golf and Country Club Rome Italy. Have you played? Yeah three times. It's good it's okay. And and we could, we could been put in line for the twenty forty Ryder Cup and that didn't happen. Thank you God right now. It sucks. We gotta wait a whole `nother year, but assuming that everything is more up and running. It'll be a proper event. And they'll be able to sell it out fully and make a ton of money imagining getter. The financial ramifications of holding a crippled Ryder Cup would have sucked. The majority of those tickets have been sold already, so you'd have to refund refund. Let's say half of it. Oh! Cutting the revenue in half would be worse than just waiting a year and telling everyone else Kerr. Kick it down the line now. They probably had to talk to all the other organizations like hey. PGA Tour because they're the ones that run the President's cup. You need to go ahead and punt years a year down the road, and they might have had to do some horse trading and say. Say. We'll give you. This will give you that et Cetera. There's Olympics now to factor in correct with the schedule so a lot of moving parts. They probably just had to work it out amongst themselves. This is thing, too is like with the accruing points now it's going to be over three seasons of accruing points while they shouldn't. They shouldn't count the third season. They should just move because. Otherwise, we're GONNA have a crappy team that includes. Brett wetterich well, Taylor again because they want a big event three years ago now the. They'll have they'll have. To PGA's to masters to US opens to an an an open championship and apart in the point. Now. And next July. Here's the downside. Does this. mean the masters. Is. In trouble now. Because I think it's the masters, and they will do it and it's November. It's November. Around that means nothing, virus plus influenza plus. So, you're GonNa tell me the Wu Han Green. You're going to tell me that they're going to have. A College football game at the University of Georgia. With fans and they're not gonNA fans at Augusta national just down the road. No chance, why would be known thinkable occurrence something? We wouldn't even dare contemplate, but one has to be ready for any eventualities. Now. I think you're right. I think the masters because they can write a check for anything like they're. They're like money. What's money we're just? We just influence things we don't care. We got so much money. We got infinity money as porno would say infinity money so because of that they don't have to worry about making their budget, so let's say the masters says okay. Still some virus rattling around. We're GONNA. We're GONNA. Cut Our admissions in half and we're going to set up extra screenings. Portals to get in. They'll do it because they're not reliant on getting a full house. The PG is reliant on getting all that revenue. They need to sell fifty thousand tickets and more. have all the corporate tent everything else. Yes, and because the merchandise and the merchandising because right now is when you gotTa Start Building the big iron, you gotta have trucks bringing in the big iron and landed down. Well into setting up the big iron by now, and they can't quite do it yet because they're still not sure, and then it's international. Travel is not up and running and is going to be fair to have the Europeans of the very little fancier. Say too bad off, but now do it next year. Proper gives us something to look forward to. We live that long. We'll make it to. Look based on. The payroll going down I'm probably not things day to day on your. four one four. Did you see? Did you guys see that? They now want the masters to change their name because of the racial con. Because of Racial Connotation WTO I have not seen that. Who's WHO's they well very mls, which is the home listing? Service has changed the name of master bedroom master bathroom, two primary bedroom. Rhyme Mary Bathroom. Okay I do not think the masters will change his there. One show. There was no. There was no racial connotation. Master slave, it was you were a master of the game of golf. Yes, these are the master craftsman Is that going to be allowed? Can you be a master craftsman? Now. Okay it's six. Oh, seven tears flowing here's Abe no, not because the postponed Ryder, Cup but because of those damn bagpipes playing amazing grace bringing back memories of Spock dying in wrath of pond. At his body, being launched from the enterprise in giant sunglasses case. That from Grady upgraded. He's right. He is right, all right, ted. Davis! Davis. Ted Day. Coming up next, we'll talk association. Some NBA players already opting out of the Orlando Restart. What does it mean and We Start Getting Ready. Let's go. That's going to be reporting week for NBA. Players were excited Ted. Davis is next plus we'll play breakers wish..
"club rome" Discussed on Drilled
"Year ago. We started the shell papers wherever we wanted to full year. Requests regarding about fifteen years of documents regarding communication between the Dutch government and Royal Dutch. Shell nor there see like structurally. What kind of cooperation exists between a shell and the Dutch states so we wanted to see like a what ways the Shell Influence Policy How did you kind of come upon the person who's at the center of your latest investigation yet? We we investigated Fits bitter a man who we didn't know actually before our investigation but Bichir is generally known or was known in the nineteen as one of the founders of the climate skeptic movements in the Netherlands and before that he was known as one of the founders of the club of Rome which was finally nineteen. Sixty eight weren't against the excessive economic growth with its famous report limits to growth in general a well known scientists Professor in Chemistry and he actually got involved in the climate debate. The nineties through his own articles and lectures. He appeared on television in the newspapers and radio interviews and yet he was one of the first known climate sceptics which in the first decade when when he became a hot issue in in global politics. So that interesting trajectory though from the club of Rome to climate skeptic always Was It seems a bit contradictory to to be. I group which weren't against too much excessive economic growth and then to be to seem to be on the other side of the debate a but there's an interesting history as well. It seems like what we know from people who actually know in from the Rome who have also written about his role in this club is that he within this glover or is informal network. He was also part of more conservative. Wing let's say the within this Within this network so it was not necessarily contradictory that within this copy already also took a position where he actually end of. Downplays the panic. That's followed the publication of the year of the first reports so especially within the Netherlands is clear for all had. A huge impact became like media hype in the words of Feeds mature and. He was annoyed by this. We see this also in his personal archive that he didn't like this. This panic and this was like the first time that he became an outspoken. Actually a critic of of the environmental movement which although he was part of the group he also who stands against the Environment Move Movement. Which used this report to call for a GOVERNMENT INTERFERENCE IN IN BUSINESS? He was grow markets. So he wanted businesses to choose to limit growth themselves. Some self restraint right most focused also in club Rome activities. His whole point was that there's no such thing as well. There is such a thing as depletion of resources but the problem is that we cannot access A lot of those. So we need to invest more -nology in order to reach Oil and gas or coal in places that are most far unreachable interesting. That's really interesting. Okay so did you get a sense of how he sort of got into the climate skeptic movement in the nineties? Yeah he actually wasn't involved or interested in the topic already. Since the end of the seventies seventy nine as I understand it was already an international conference about it and Some attention to it so he was interested in this debate from the beginning and this was still at a time when he combined his work as an academic with advisory work for royal but shells so he has always combined his during his career at the same time a professor and also bar time adviser afford of Royal Dutch. Shell regarding research their their research policy so he worked for Shell from Nineteen Fifty. Three to nineteen eighty. Three's so for more or less. And he was. He was familiar with You know the heads The the main CEO's. He considered them to be as personal friends. At the end of the seventies is there was a discussion about the greenhouse effect beginning so he got involved in immediately and also supported by. Shell already in ninety nine. The first sign off support from Royal. Shell to him regarding. The greenhouse effect is actually from nineteen seventy nine when show finance the small research of fits pitcher into the greenhouse effect to see what was right and what was wrong about this theory as he would always and this was actually already the first time when he started to develop his his skeptic arguments and ambition and we see from personal notes in his personal archive that he you know yet skeptic theory based on the theory of James Lovelock believing the self regulating powers of planet earth and were believing in the indie positive feedback effects but he was never a climate scientists. He was a was a professor in chemistry so but he started to read in the eighties. While the literature from American climate sceptics Richard Lindzen and already knew people like Fred Singer and other Eric Skeptics. Which you have talked about your cuss as well. He knew them from international policy circles like the OCD for which he was also a delegates so he was familiar with the American skeptics. He followed them but he didn't really became a vocal critic of the climate scientists until nineteen eighty nine more or less what we found to be his co two project as he called it. Like a big skeptic project which Which he ran for almost a decade in nineteen eighty nine interesting and the funding for that. Come from Shell as well. Yes yeah. That's a. It's our main discoveries so and the biggest surprise to us because we started this research just to investigate the right kind of like a background article about what is already known about shelves role in the debate. And we didn't. We didn't expect to find this kind of direct support to climate skeptics. Because in general Shell is known as as more like a unlike. Xm You know like a like a company which has bit of attention for the environment. And which isn't that aggressive in funding climate. Denial is that. Why didn't expect to find this kind of director for his Personal Archive Richie died in two thousand eight so he left his archive in the inner city of Harlem in in a small archive one hundred fifty six bucks ports of meetings and letters and personal nodes fascinating to reads butts. Yeah and the. The story that that.
"club rome" Discussed on The Adam Buxton Podcast
"Men sixty six years old. Now this is. We're talking like fifty years ago. Yeah no I haven't. I think that was actually the last time I did. It says these days. Yeah I think you know what I bet you. That was the last time I sniff glue. Now I think of it because the whole thing was no was it moves was but it wasn't. I wasn't once I got into it and nothing really bad happened. I somehow made my way home. Everything was cool except the police there looking for me because my grandmother couldn't find me for a day or two wasn't nothing bad so it was like a rollercoaster. You know you're afraid but see it's not like a real coca. I didn't know Anything Vale is going to happen in the first place so I wasn't afraid so the fear thing never happened So I just said wow. That was fun and I probably associated Lsd With beautiful older girls in like they were cool. This is amazing and not only that but this music made sense to you. The music made so much sense. It was ridiculous I came home. Of course I had the doors whole album remembered but it was the the end that I particularly like but Of course light. My fire was on there and stuff but I remember the trucks wild thing that's so basic though but you still got something out of it. Oh Yeah in So you went a snob Bono. No I loved it. I had a blast. I mean how could you not you have all these beautiful older women around you and they're treating you like you're something special because you're such an oddity that you were like. Et or something like could we? We were nothing like the people in that room. We were so our embiid out. We're so silk suited and ruffled shirts and white shoes. We had that we used to call. I'd talion 's know we were totally different. You like celebrity guests exactly. It's like hey come on man the water's fine. That was the beginning of my sort of deep deep dive into Surf Music and psychedelic music. We went to the beach boys. At all of that point everybody liked the beach boys. They went weird yet. They weren't yeah. The beach boys were just regular American pop music but it was great. It was weird like America was a super singles driven market. So instead of saying I'm into stepping Wolfram into the Scorpions or it's like I'm into a song amid into ran an Anna Wayne and Air Air Narain Air Nanu Nair Incidents Pepe. The you know you just like songs so I would listen to the songs that we play you know all the cool surf music and like the ventures and you hear that Twangy Duane Eddy kind of guitar and stuff but still my junior high school was still in in the hood in the ghetto. So at the same time that I was listening to that we'd have our weekly dances where they were playing. You know the marvel. Let's and you know when the temptations and Chris Clark and Edwin Starr and so you. I had a very a very balanced. I in the orchestra. We played symphonic music and our program. Was you know deep with Prokofiev but Beethoven you know a lot of guard you know in cooler newer composers a lot of Russian composers. I said like Prokofiev Schakowsky and yeah we. We were cool. Yeah we'RE COOL. We're good orchestra. We're we're pretty good for junior high school band What was your first professional? Gig As a musician. Then first time I consider myself getting paid for making music of an panhandling on the street was I played flute on. No Jewish traditional song called body. Now it's like wow I'm a real musician. I got money for playing. This is cool but then I quickly switch from woodwinds to guitar. And I'm trying to remember the first time. I remember getting paid money to play guitar. I don't even know what the song was. I just remembered the situation and it was clear that the guys who are in control of the money with gangsters and it was clear that we were going to write a song and they were GonNa pay us and we'll just get kicked out of the studio and they were going to keep the publishing you know and say that they wrote the song But the other musicians on the date explained to me that that's just how music business was. And if you WanNa make a living you gotta do this all the time so I did a bunch of records where I would you know in today's world I would have been the CO writer But I got nothing right so I'm gonNA fast forward now to the eighties. You talk fondly in your book about the eighty s and of course a decade in which you worked with people like Madonna and the B fifty. Two's I didn't know that actually until I read it. That's Melvin that. I really love great. Al Cosmic thing is wonderful really is scraped. But that doesn't immediately say now Rogers to me. Do you know what I mean. I now now that I know it. It does but it's it's a lot of stuff that you do so think about this. The beef the two albums before cosmic thing love shack deadbeat club Rome I wish true to their sound but vocally. I'm not trying to take credit here on. Just give an example vocally. Don't you think they sound better singing on the cosmic thing album than they sound on earlier records? Yeah just quality of vocal sure. No it's altogether a more lush accessible. Exactly yeah and it was something that we slightly argued over in the beginning and I said just try. Just trust me and try it. I said this is an old rock and roll trick that people have been using since the beginning of time multi track recording. Try this and I try and and when you believe that it's just cindy singing. It sounds like it's just cindy singing but it's not and when you believe that well. Fred of courses completely undeniable. Yes and of course it look at how much I featured Fred on on that album because I thought that as a hype person like which became really popular in hip hop as a hype man. Fred was incredible and You know the the guy who's going in it well I. I was getting ready to doing Fred Toys. But in hip hop the person who's not necessarily the feature. Rapper has hype person going. Yoda's my man's always also he gonNA kick it tonight. Come and they're always the one doing the double the accent vocal They'll say something like hip hop who hosted so the hype man backing on low and so the lead guy is going. You know doing the main rap the hype man is like getting the crown hyped up and and typically before you go right go to a hip hop show. You'll see the hype person come out. I would've been views a great hype man public enemy flavor flavors like a great great great height man but he was also part of public enemy. Yeah so you turn so. I turned fred into the great hype. Man I thought he was because he sounded like a carnival Barker to. I've seen a gazillion movie. Sound like that'd be club. Yeah Yeah Right. I wanted to have him do that. Thing and most especially yes say painted sign outside around. Yeah that's exactly right. I love the idea of you going to parties at Anthony. Michael Hall's place with Durant Durant right. I mean how you can't really get more than that and yeah and that was easy. 'cause that was around the corner one block from my apartment that was super eighties It's funny because we're still sort of friends to this day. Even though we haven't seen each other for a long time I still have clothing in my closet that he gave me on those wonderful Coke Doubt Nights. Yeah Right so those were your coke. Still when when did you clean up? I got sober Exactly twenty four years ago. On August fifteenth and It was interesting because it was Madonna's birthday party. Madonna's birthday is August sixteenth. But her party was I guess. On a Saturday on the fifteenth. She decided throw on a Saturday. Or maybe a Friday night. I can't remember but I certainly remember the date. It was really horrible. 'cause I don't think just being carried out a Madonna's house back to my hotel would have gotten me sober but what got me. Sober was that earlier that day. I had performed with a really brilliant Cuban musician named nil Lara. And this guy's a genius. He's a super super genius and I was going down to record him for the Jazz Label Blue Note and and he asked me if I wanted to jam with him I was like of course you kidding me. Get the play with nil. Lara live and started playing and I knew that he was sort of real. Cuban hero in Miami beach so I had to do something more than just play cool guitar so I was pretty high and I started doing the Hendrix. Tricked PLAYING GUITAR BEHIND MY HEAD. My back in the whole bit and showing all yeahs like Levin a little silly and the crowd was going crazy I was like oh I'm killing it and the next day I went to Nils House to work on the record and he said hey menu he would. She played last night. I said sure. And he played it back for me and it was pretty dreadful Now probably wasn't nearly as bad as I think but the fact is is that it wasn't as good as I remembered and that made me believe in one instant that I was going crazy because my memory was like wow hours killing it but the tape doesn't lie and tape said no you were not killing it. You were at best average so that was the that was all. It took that that was it. I called Some friends of mine and I told him to come down to Miami beach because I was hallucinating. I I knew about hallucination because I was the acid head when I was younger. But now I hadn't taken LSD. And I was actually suffering from my very first my one and only bout of cocaine psychosis I. The mob was out to kill me. I call some friends of mine. Who Were Detectives Homicide Detectives and said? Look I'll pay for the private jet for you to come on. Now come down get me. Get me out of his hotel. We'll go back to the airport. Fly Back to New York and it was all in my head. So what year would that have been? That would have been ninety four. So that's good Eleven years after you met and worked with Bowie right. Who'd of course Bain threw himself? Did you ever use to exchange cocaine psychosis stories with him? No No? He was all cleaned up by that he was. He was clean when we were doing. Let's dance. He was cleaning eighty two. He had the serenity prayer in Japanese tattooed on his leg. I even ask him what that was when I saw it. So wow that's cool. What does that Kanji he says? That's the serenity prayer in Japanese. What's the prayer? And then he told me it's like oh uh-huh and was there ever a discussion about like David's clean now so you can't be doing anything around him and or was that is just a sign of respect. Yeah I didn't write. And what was the initial approach? Then how did he he got in touch with? You just thought well. I want to work with this guy. I met him in an after hours club. I walked in with billy idol. He and I used to go out a lot together. Billy still a wonderful guy. Just saw him. We just play Coachella and I saw. Billy is great. I love the dude But we go out together all the time we really party buddies and And when we walked into this new club called a continental billy and I were walking in together and he looked me with as David fucking bow and when he said by we he barked back. David Bow Anyway. Hello billions of cool dude in the world man. He's like so awesome. Didn't even like break a step really proper view John. Yup but the thing is that because Iranian bar fight it and slow down or anything like that and I was already over talking to Bowie like right away. I saw him. I was just like we stuck together like glue. I introduced myself said that. Hey man you live in the same building with all my friends that I grew up with which all young Americans Luther Vandross and Carlos Alamar and Carlos. His wife Robin who sang on every chic record in the beginning as did luther so I was like yeah. You know. We're sort of like family and don't realize it yet but anyway we started chatting next thing you know we were talking about jazz all night and I was so impressed with his indepth knowledge of jazz from like the most straight ahead to the most avant garde I was like this. The real dude man. He's like he wasn't like just out stuff. That people knew like that was sort of popular in the hippie set like Sun. Raw Sunrise was out there so people dug him but he knew like the deep stuff. He knew Eric Palffy. He'd Taylor he was into it. I mean he didn't just know it he was into it he could sing the heads and all that sort of stuff because he played Sax. I I didn't really know that about him so he was fascinated because he didn't realize that I knew that and he didn't realize that I orchestrated and did all the sheikh records who like. Wow you do that yourself of course is is. There's never been a record. I've done that. Anyone has ever stood on the conductor's podium except for me. I mean never i. I don't just do your arrangements. Sit Back and let somebody else conduct. I do derangement. Then I'm in the room with all the musicians. Wow it's amazing so Yes and that was a whole element that you added to to well to the genre though you orchestrated those right brought something totally new cinematic and exciting and it just suddenly you got something. Different From Chart Record. Write that transported you somewhere else because I never treated the sweetening like they weren't part of the ban. See that's the difference between my style of orchestration. Is that a lot of people who orchestrated. They wanted the orchestration to sort of. Stand out in a weird way my style. You know you listen to a song light modern love and you know those horns part of the band or even let's dance. Let's dance. Who Reggie Dan do? Bamboo Babylon let through the radio. And they're part of the thing you know so to me. It was critical to orchestrate Bowie..
"club rome" Discussed on Urban Futures Podcast
"The president of the nazis foundation in a full member of the club rome. He's speaking with us today to share knowledge on complexity theory in paradigm. I am chips and give his perspective on the future of civilisation carla. Why don't we begin by talking about your personal story in what he has been for. You took off from engineering to become in so interested in the fisher of our world while <hes> it's the answer to that is very very personal of course it's it's complex as i think it is every body but it's it's really personal and and macho earlier than <music> i became an engineer <hes> it started probably when i was ten years old or something like that because what happened is that my like mother was a fan of the club of road very early fan of the club wrote so and and when the when the club emerged and started to launch a report and especially the limits to growth the report <hes> i started listening listening to talking about that and <hes> and i think she transmitted to be not only to the family but body or to me <hes> these sailing that something was not right that something was wrong with our <hes> the model of for development that we we were using in the world and that got deep into me. The funny thing is that after that i didn't take bath all the addressing environmental challenges from the very beginning but what happens that was good in math and all the sciences but especially in math and i think in my mind i don't know how but my mind was in east framed pretty much to who white not too early to systemic thinking and <hes> so i i chose to be an engineer i using because of that because of this combination of systems thinking and and mathematics and i when i beat not far away but <hes> i didn't develop my proficient carrier. I mainly with environmental issues. I was for a time researcher lecturer in mathematics matic's at the polytechnic university in and through that i i developed more thinking about about systems and i i got exposed to the perspectives of complexity from the side of natural sciences and in particular from the works off the elliott who was a nobel prize in chemistry and that's the i i stopped writing about route complexity and uncertainty and the how <hes> conventional science had limitations comes to deal with real systems because real systems are complex and not so long ago. I would say eight or ten years ago to point. I decided this is important. I can escape addressing vase with this combination of the message from the club of rome the original message the joke of from the club of rome and the perspective of complex systems thinking and there is a new initiative babic lebron called the emerging arjun new civilizations initiative n._c._i. You're actually part of it and you're working on a paper that you'll be publishing in the coming fall list list the body initiative. Why is it important in. What is the context yes well. I definitely think it's a crucial crucial and i am biased because i'm one of those who are pushing for these <hes>. The context is that <hes> we have the the fifty s the fiftieth anniversary of the club of rome last year so <hes>. It's you know it's a symbolic moment. <hes> the symbol is more of a round numbers. You know it's <hes> it was a symbolic moment to make an assessment in away on assessment of the past but especially <hes> questioning about the future not not only the future of humanity but also the future of the club itself itself and the role it wants to play and in that context <hes> i mean do can you can make you can make different ratings of what the club has achieved in needs i fifty years <hes> but at least i think <hes> it played a very important role in raising the awareness and the concerns of humanity about our relationship with the biosphere and about <hes> the unsustainability aw development models and from that point of view. I think the missions nations is very much accomplished but of course for the future we felt we couldn't stay in saying <hes> adjudged dot a we were right. We were writing the origins of clive were right when published limits to growth and <music> because the world although although aware awareness raised <hes> as being raised a lot about these issues we didn't change the course of the of the world we have been following and there are some studies saudis we show that that we have been more or less following the business as usual pass since <hes> nine hundred sixty eight and therefore approaching two to collapse and in my view on the view of all those i mean at the very least if you look at what we have to do due to deal with with climate emergency that starts with a changing our sources of energy from fossil fuels to renewable also human civilizations show that <hes> only that changing your sources softened now changing the basic matab ben tabbies of society is already means already a changing civilization. That's that's that's already the foundations the material from beijing are so different that i'm quite convinced that we will not achieve achieve that without changing also many other things and without changing at all levels. The outlook for humanity is about moving moving the the shift we are talking is nothing less than challenging the foundation of our civilization's towards it's something quite different. It is not only about using a renewable awesome and instead of fossil fuels. It's about <hes> <hes> wellbeing making human wellbeing compatible with <hes> with a healthy biosphere and and that's how that's how we started the these initiatives emerging new civilization he had <hes> started in october last year and we are working on it. We're having a very good discussions among members of the club <hes> in a way connecting reconnecting reconnecting or developing <hes> what was the original message out of the club which was to have to think in analyst fixes stomach way and for the whole of humanity and and the planet so that's the origin of <hes> n._c._i. And also the point of saying emerging. You'll sedation these because we believe that's from situation. Solve <hes> emergency tential situations of collapse <hes> there are different paths is to go out of them and something new can emerge dot something related to leave new and to a certain point. I think it's already a merging in myriad of initiative's <hes> round the world so this is also the more optimistic perspective active. That's something new. More positive can emerge carlos. Can you tell us why renaissance was so important in bringing up these new ideas and bringing us too close to the modern word because i think that type of the transformation tells a lot about the ways that we need to be looking at our current transformation. That's a very good question. I because it's a question about what kind of shifts did we have. In the past at the macro level will the analysis the usual analyses is that we had only <hes> <hes> a couple of them and you know in the in the history of humanity so the first one being the agricultural revolution but those shift saw a a micro and the and mainly related to the material conditions of our lives on of the lives of newman society's. Sorry crucial aspect of these emerging new civilization eating is that we have to think in the systemic way and holding complexity without <hes> simplifying <hes> simplifying the the nature of reality which means that we have to consider not only the material conditions and not only for instance technological innovation as is the foundation of <hes> of something new but especially the world views you use that <hes> that term and i think it's most the appropriate what our views are a._b. St malo gee how do we conceive our relationship our relationship to the world and from that point of view it's a very interesting and in difficult challenge because <hes> the dominant worldview in which we are comes from <hes> certain diaper thinking which was especially successful <hes> after the industrial revolution which is to to summarize reductionism and mechanics 's and <hes> and that has been very useful and very effective in in providing ideals to develop <hes> the technologies we have the artifacts that we have and making successful the industrial the industrial revolution but that way of thinking in he's not appropriate to consider <hes> <hes> complexity as a whole to consider are very deep and complex again relationship with the environment. We've made sure we the biopsy. Where does this shift cam from from a combination of. I would say something <hes> <hes> relatively new <hes> we cheese the question enough mcadoo and ridiculous questions things from other perspectives perspective of complexity sciences from the perspective of cybernetics in the in the original sense the german in the in the sense of the term of the discipline also from evolution of biology and and life sciences and and in psychology the etc so a number of disciplines have been in bal evolving am some people inside each discipline of found that oh my gov <hes> we can is the word in in separate disciplines. There are commonalities among the all complex systems. This leads us to a scientific paradigm which is quite different from the make any system. That's one thread the other one is as old as humanity and you can see that in a very vibrant way in indigenous people and their relationship you too nature that we are <hes> rediscovering in a way. Are we realizing now that we face concrete. Complete manifestations of the limitations of our industrial revolution are some of the outcomes of our industrial relations manifestations of pollution the destruction of bio-diversity the destruction of natural habitats and environment and and and these two threads one which is modern but actually connect with unseen wisdom which has all ways been there that we are part of the whole and <hes> there is a fundamental unity in life and and that's we i've been <hes> at least partially destroying that unity and these new perspectives on i'd be stay malla g._m. <hes> uh-huh realization that will make any season is good to build machines but it doesn't explain the whole world and i want to say that the formulation of this shift it's also quite <hes> heavily <hes> based on the interdependence <hes>. I think we could say that <hes> so interdependence this way the base. What are they gridlocks inkata's well we don't we don't recognize <hes> exactly i mean what you said is is <hes> i think maybe it's the single piece of <hes> truth. We have to be the most important single piece of true that we have have to build upon <hes> interdependencies and the and and how because our worldviews are not build on that in our view worldviews are built for now the dominant i mean the dominant worldviews we have are built on the idea that we individuals <hes> that societies are collections self <hes> individuals and then we know that of course individuals needle are not completely isolated and that we have friends families a and we are part of collectives and we have nations cities kc but provided that the central concept from which we build build our institutions is the individual individual that separation getting the individual our feel of <hes> ease or her context and that's reductionism and the the the exercise we have to to make is to put interdependencies at the core so interdependency doesn't mean that we forget that we of course we are individuals. We don't have to forget that but that's a completely different approach because if so i started thinking.
"club rome" Discussed on Sports Talk 1050 WTKA
"Talk some baseball collusion in a minute. I this guy writes Rome, I'm sitting at my desk crying, laughing right now on your far in the car, take it makes it that much funnier than it's one of my favorite trickster, Paul nothing more satisfying than having all your broS have to stick their heads out the window and gasp for air. Welcome to the victim. Club Rome signed Aaron in Omaha war, Janet carrying around barf bags every time Rome gets valet parking. I'm not saying that it doesn't happen. I'm not saying it doesn't happen to me. Me. Of course, it happens with you and your boys. I didn't think that it would happen on a freezing cold night in the dead of winter at a restaurant that I was one of the investors in a thought I was safe at night. Mature could happen to anybody at any time. You could happen to me at any restaurant. I just didn't think would happen to me that night at that restaurant. Why? Because that was one of the owners of the restaurant I thought I was safe. And we know that'd be like that'd be like me finishing up the show and hawks saying to me. Hey, boss, a warmed up your car for you? He hawk that's totally unnecessary. Why would you do that? When in reality. He got in the car. Crop dusted. It. It's the same thing. Right. Of course, you could happen to me. I'm not above it better than that. Hell I probably deserve it. Right. I just didn't think it would happen to me at a restaurant where I had an ownership stake. I thought it was fun that night and that point about having your bro- stick their heads out the window. That was part of the problem man was freezing. What a was thirty is cold for us in California. If you're Californian native, if you're from Los Angeles the way, I am would it drops into the thirties. That's really freaking cold. We're not driving with our windows open except Janet, and I were like dogs with our heads hanging out the window as we were crying and throwing up. Again. I don't wanna spend a lot of time on this because I'm not twelve but you gotta work pretty hard. You know? The time the time it took for that guy to get in the car and drive it from where it was to me was maybe one second. You gotta work pretty hard at time that crop does the way he did. I guarantee these guys were set it up from the second. I pulled in there for an eight o'clock reservation the next two hours. You're like, hey, man. Hey, man. Let me know when Rome's coming out the Minoan roms coming out. I have to kind of set it up. And there's probably that one guy in the valley team that could always set it up set like his bodily excretion up for it. These guys are probably like tweeting each texting each other. All right. All right. Target on the move here. They come here. They come or they got the check. They got the check they tipped. She's going to the bathroom. He's looking at his phone. All right there on the move there on the move. They're coming. They're coming. Hey, Mr. Rome. How was your dinner grape role? Great great. Thanks a lot, man. Your car will be right out. Nightcap in the car for you, Rome. I got your nightcap. Jim nightcap, sir. No. You're about to get one. Oh, man. They're never mind setting it up that night. They probably would come in every single night. Look at the reservation. Roster is Roman tonight is Roman tonight. No damn when is that guy coming back? When is that guy? Coming back is he is he is. He is he yes. Yes. He's here. Bang bang. He's in the restaurant. What Cardi bring? Oh, hell, yes. Chris tweets, the crop dusting. Valet driver was Mark in Hollywood's. Best role was not Mark. Jungle gym as a former tour caddy for eighteen years. I cannot thank you enough for shedding light on this subject. He deserves the torching wake up tour players you have it. Good karma is a bitch. Bruce and riverside, three reasons why Matt Kuchar in. Did you think I did that guy wrong? Believe me the best thing ever happened to couture. As me telling me that valley or me telling that valet story afterwards and running that misdirection forum could actually picking them up. Three things about Kucher one do the right thing. He didn't do that. Number two. It is karma. Wouldn't you do that for purposes of karma? If not the right thing, then karma because you jerk with the universe. It's gonna come back and jerk with you. And number three. If you don't care about doing the right thing. You don't care about karma. We don't believe in karma number three. What if it gets out? What if that story gets out? And it did. So now, he's got all three strikes against he did the wrong thing. He jerked with karma. And it got out. Fifty grand and make all that. Go away would have been the best money. He ever spent Rome. Kuch played a perfect no nonsense career loved by everyone never caused drama. Definitely a crowd favourite on the tracks. That is cheap ass tips. His caddy less than one percent after his first win in four years. What a bag. Demoss you in Albuquerque way less than one percent way less this guy. Just gave me point number four. Number one, do the right thing. Number two. Don't jerk a karma number three. What if it gets out and number four scowls beloved, this guy was beloved fan favorite? Everybody. Loved him. Wrecked reputation. See it's starting already. A former Torquay at EBay teen years said, thanks for pointing that out. Stuck nuts in if your name rhymes with rat? You better not be one..
"club rome" Discussed on Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM
"Talk some baseball collusion in a minute. I this guy writes Rome, I'm sitting at my desk crying, laughing right now on your far in the car, take it makes it that much funnier that it's one of my favorite trickster, Paul nothing more satisfying than having all your broS have to stick their heads out the window and gasp for air. Welcome to the victim. Club Rome signed Aaron in Omaha were Janet carrying around barf bags every time Rome gets valet parking. I'm not saying that it doesn't happen. I'm not saying it doesn't happen to me. Of course, it happens with you and your boys. I didn't think that it would happen on a freezing cold night in the dead of winter at a restaurant that I was one of the investors in a thought I was safe that night. Mature could happen to anybody at any time. It could happen to me at any restaurant. I just didn't think would happen to me that night at that restaurant. Why? Because that was one of the owners of the restaurant, I thought it was safe. Know that'd be like that'd be like me finishing up the show and hawk saying to me. Hey, boss, a warmed up your car for you? He hawked, that's totally unnecessary. Why would you do that? When in reality. He got in the car in crop dusted. It. It's the same thing. Right. Of course could happen to me. I'm not above it. I'm not better than that. Hell I probably deserve it. Right. I just didn't think it would happen to me at a restaurant where I had an ownership stake. I thought it was fun that night. And that point about having your bro- stick their heads out the window. That was part of the problem man was freezing. What a was thirty is cold for us in California. If you're Californian native if you're from Los Angeles to why I am would it drops into the thirties. That's really freaking cold. We're not driving with our windows open except Janet, and I were like dogs with our heads hanging out the window as we were crying and throwing up. Again. I don't wanna spend a lot of time on this because I'm not twelve but you gotta to work pretty hard. The time the time it took for that guy to get in the car and drive it from where it was to me. It was maybe one second. You got to work pretty hard at time that crop dust the way he did. I guarantee these for set it up from the second. I pulled in there for an eight o'clock reservation for the next two hours. You're like, hey, man. Hey, man. Let me know when Rome's coming out the Minoan roms coming out after kinda set it up, and there's probably a one guy in the valley team that could always set it up set like his bodily excretion up for it. These guys are probably like tweeting each texting each other. All right. All right. Target on the move here. They come here. They come. They got the check. They got the check they tipped. She's going to the bathroom. He's looking at his phone. All right there on the move through on the move. They're coming. They're coming. Hey, Mr. Rome. How was your dinner grape row? Great. Great. Thanks a lot, man. Your car will be right out. Nightcap in the car for you, Rome. I get your nightcap. Jim nightcap, sir. No. You're about to get one. Set that thing man, the never mind setting it up that night, they probably would come in every single night. And look at the reservation roster is Romans tonight is Roman tonight. No damn when is that guy coming back? When is that guy? Coming back is he is he is. He is he yes. Yes. He's here. Bang bang. He's in the restaurant. What Cardi bring? Oh, hell, yes. Chris tweets, the crop dusting. Valet driver was Mark in Hollywood's. Best role was not Mark. Jungle gym as a former tore caddy for eighteen years. I cannot thank you enough for shedding light on this subject. He deserves the torching wake up toward players. You have it. Good karma is a bitch. Bruce and riverside, three reasons why Matt Kuchar in. Did you think I did that guy wrong? Believe me the best thing ever happened at couture. As me telling me that valley or me telling that valley story afterwards in running that misdirection for him could actually picking them up. Three things about Kucher one do the right thing. He didn't do that. Number two. It is karma. Wouldn't you do that for purposes of karma? If not the right thing, then karma because you jerk with the universe. It's gonna come back and jerk with you. And number three. If you don't care about doing the right thing. You don't care about karma. We don't believe in karma number three. What if it gets out? What if that story gets out and it did? So now, he's got all three strikes against he did the wrong thing. He jerked with karma. And it got out. Fifty grand and make all that. Go away would have been the best money. He ever spent Rome. Kuch played a perfect no nonsense career loved by everyone never caused drama. Definitely a crowd favorite on the tracks. Then is cheap ass tips. His caddy less than one percent after his first win in four years. What a bag. Damasio in Albuquerque way, less than one percent way less this guy. Just gave me point number four. Number one, do the right thing. Number two. Don't jerk karma number three. What if it gets out and number four scale beloved, this guy was TD fan favorite? Everybody. Loved him. Rectors reputation. See it's starting already. A former Torquay at EBay eighteen years said thanks for pointing that out. Stuck in if your name rhymes with rat. You better not be one. Matha rat. It's starting already Matt the rat Kuch the douche. Rebel tweets. How dare that kept guy be cheap signing grant? In Tulsa, what's up grant, you're on the air? Hey. Number one gonna buy a house in Long Beach because I don't want him in Tulsa. I afraid afraid. Culture that.
"club rome" Discussed on Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM
"Four to seven on extra sports thirteen hundred. So it's always good to make new connections. Mike, Don, South Dakota state. Great interview in our number one, always good to get caught up with some old friends. Kevin Milwaukee hall of Famer and Mark Turgeon has always been extremely good. At the jungle always been pro jungle always been available and accessible. Long enough. That's how that goes always going to get caught up no podcast this week. And I want to explain to you why that is. But at the same time, I wanna give you something in exchange. Trey deadline now about forty minutes out little bit less. This Email says even we think the pelicans got ruthless revenge on the Lakers signed the guys who killed Jon wicks dog. Steve. War Harrison, Barnes checking watches timeline during all future timeouts. So big John wake house love, John wick. Dear Jim now. The Lakers don't how we feel signed fat ugly. Dudes had a club Casey, New Hampshire. His subject is Lakers too, ugly. Well, the guy talking to the pretty girl while she looks around everybody but him. Now, the Lakers know how we feel signed fat ugly dudes at a club. Rome. Is a ladder. Did I need to climb? Somebody get me a freaking ladder yours baby. Jessica. Aaron in Omaha. Aaron I never block anybody. Go on Twitter Twitter feed. Nobody's blocked. Nobody's blocked. Eight million a horse coming at me everyday on Twitter. Nobody's blocked you. Erin are blocked. Right. So Baker Mayfield did not win the NFL rookie of the year award. And if you think that he did not notice that then you don't know Baker Mayfield. If you think that he did not notice that think again because you do not know this guy uses motivation, but.
"club rome" Discussed on Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM
"Not doing everything he can to help Lamar Jackson because he wants his job back because he wants to play because he knows that if Lamar Jackson continues to play well as he is right now he's going to see the field again for the ravens. I'm not saying, it's right. But this guy is not the first inaugural. He'd be the last not to help out another guy the classiest move. But then again, I'm not there. I'm mark. I'm not in the quarterback room. I'm not gonna say what this guy's doing and not doing it wouldn't be fair for me to say it. Yeah. He would not be the last vet who want to get back on the field and knew that if the young guy in front of him continues to play the way he is that he's not going to see the field again. Did he may have played his last down with them. So in Saint Paul tweets Ron full of rage. Dude was wron full of lame at least when Emilio text as went from the text to the phones. He got run from Detroit ET what's up day to day. I wanna be putting the sapphire club Rome. And I got a couple of reasons why first and foremost, we all know, my tech panel based on the actor Amelia, lots a called Winston's Romi. Well, what's his name those money ducks movies? It was. Oh, yeah. Coach Gordon bomb bay. But let the record speaks for itself. As soon as I can't believe there's some you. It was a big big thing back in the day the tax contest. But some of your recall is incredible. Sky guys going deep with the. Yeah. But Emilio Estevez not only do I remember him. I remember when he went from the text to the phones, and then he got run. Clones, don't forget anything. You. Don't unimpressed really impressed. Right. We tried really hard to find Deontay wilder. We were unable to turn that around. When we come back. We are scheduled to be joined in studio by CBS sports NFL analyst, Amy Trask that's coming up next. Meantime, I got a sports update for you at the bottom of the hour. Like, I do every single hour here. It is rich.
"club rome" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"In the hallways then checking me he also found his uh second or third victim as he was giving a citic's lecture in her high school classroom so it's very disturbing to me that many of these young people we have seen him as a mentor austerity figaro in addition to their parents moved to how many catholic young people would have seen a priest as the person to turn to trust and therefore feel intimidated uh w reporting should they take an inappropriate actions towards them so that's the case so we close the 14yearold uh the story that she told the washington post as i guess you know door is in a lake even worse in the um her contact with more was more was this assistant district attorney who was there at the courthouse wall lee's mother was going in for a custody hearing sacree and more volunteered to watch lee the girl so that she didn't have to go into the club rome and here ugly things in a in a custody hearing and what's left and you know what's a mess even more seen um natshe ita shins towards her and it's striking to me that he stated that he would never data girl without getting the moms permission maybe in his mind telling the mom that he'll watch her daughter wasn't away in his twisted mind getting permission i just find the whole seeing so much more sinister given his role in society in their society at that time and that he may have used his position to stock young people in there may be more girls out there and one of the pieces of cooperation in the washington post story is that they looked at the records and sure enough recourse things mother um was involved in a custody hearing at the courthouse in february nineteen seventy nine exactly said it was early seventy nine and the moore's office was right there at the courthouse door thank you very much molly in west chester yang wnyc hi molly do they know you know they were going to have the vote already and then do we know that they have the votes corker was against it sounded like mccain was again and so i'm just wondering if they go forward and pasta he's a little bit tough to tell at this point it seems like they have the.
"club rome" Discussed on KGAB
"That and then we'll put us is huge that became an industrious made a lot of money in the world business but they his social or come kept coming through and of became a member of the club overall and the club will and if living in the same pillar what's been going on because what's interesting is there two global wanting are climate change to los over population and they they are get the puck overall argued that the world is open populated and it's him courses out a late that is simply not sustainable and of course that would based upon the old male penis _c_m thomas mathis is idea that the wool populated without role of the supply well the called the wrong believe that before population without grew all of their resources and the in in conjunction with the club rome decided got not only workhorse a population growing and using to but he resources but the industrial rise nation's worthy of media problem because they were using rooney gorgeous after late than all the other countries so yeah polo in the early studies they didn't practice at the end of the second woodward us with six percent of the the world population but you think about forty two percent of all the reverse is in the world and and so murray in an interview with they'll ain't you're in a book called cloaking green because he said well you know what what's the problem and he said with a problem for the planet are the industrial i and it ended our responsibility to get rid of them and of course one of the things about people that have huge global influences you know you like pure we have ideas but the number of ideas that we actually put into practice if you know are the number of ideas that ever get put into practice it in option but when i think about people like murray strong if they're able to manipulate the world and hit the hey dating thing about how famous people.
"club rome" Discussed on KJJQ The Ranch AM 910
"Job of helping to improve wildlife have a timeout throughout the area just about every far there somewhere where that kind of marginal and that probably we'd be better grab done as does an arm the surprise is that are paid now for some of that he was pretty darn good if you go and order but then he got up the ground he really a lot of money off but it might be better off put that marshall not a program that he can't again you can learn a lot more about fall hunting prospects in south dakota during that info lunch it's a week from today friday september second twelve noon at the high be club rome that's opened the everyone and the local thursday morning bowling leake held their season organizational meeting yesterday and brought games they're getting ready for the fall season of bowling and they invite folks to come in join them ellen her bolted secretary treasurer for the group and we will be certain only on september first nine am aj april and then we do have been the ladies well for the winter and stuff so that way then we really amateur record of two six kind of him one when they are gone she says they are looking for interested female ballers to come and join them in haven't fun enhance whenever we had the higher we've talked about it but never gone too far they've and we kind of opened up but it i don't need some time to might change areas in the league it's a membership but with moore out of the glove of the cut them or competitively youth you'd like to learn more if you get out to me my hall number is six nine three three five six seven four the thirty multiple were down again that number is six nine three three five six seven and the local thursday morning bowling league will start their bowling for the season september first kane's blocking shots.