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Circle Home Plus helps families control screen time & more

Techstination

01:59 min | 11 months ago

Circle Home Plus helps families control screen time & more

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46: Magic Life-Changing Advice, Expectations, and Where the Devil Likes to Live

Chrisley Confessions

47:36 min | 2 years ago

46: Magic Life-Changing Advice, Expectations, and Where the Devil Likes to Live

"Good Morning. I'm actually glad to have my partner back over here good morning. How are you good vantage great last week but you know glad to so you're back and a little bit better and I'm always proud that you know one of our kids can step in when when one of us cannot <hes> folks? I was not here last week because I was having so much pain from this broken fibula that happened about three weeks ago and surgery with the steel plate and these age screws and I mean the swelling and it just was like it's almost like my leg had its own heartbeat heat and so I just could not come into the podcast so my daughter Savannah our daughter Savannah stepping in and I'm glad because so many people loved hearing the two of you together some will try to make sure I'm here every week so she didn't take my job from me. Ha <hes> so with that being said <hes> I think we'll jump into calls today because we have so many people that are complaining that we're not answering their questions and we can only do so much in an hour so I'm going to limit everything that's going on in our family <hes> to just pray for US continue to lift us up and know that we're doing the same for everyone. That's around us and even for those that we don't know that's going through heartaches struggles so let's go the first caller hey joey. This is very <hes> from South Carolina. I got a question <hes> I was just listening to your podcast with how <hes> does he have in therapy that he goes to the help them with his bipolar understand mental health that I have to. I'll have to see I've a person having ninety and I go to counseling for it and I know the that by over different <hes> and another question is <hes> everybody out here has like a religion birthday and I mean I do believe in the Lord honey. He's best friend who talked to day in day out but I WANNA know. Is it okay hey. I don't have like a title getting like I'm not that I'm not I'm not Indian. I'm just me doesn't make me any different light not the have the you know what you think they are at. Hey Re from South Carolina. Tom Let you answer the first part and then I'll answer the second kyle does go to therapy <hes> and he is in a program onto where he's four days a week and that you know that that helps I can't tell you enough how much I believe that that counseling and therapy helps you and let's face it you no we live in overmedicated. Society and cow has never felt good on the medications so you know we have gone a holistic approach with him and he's in his you know he does his counseling like I said four days a week his therapy therapy and he's working and he's and he's doing well at the moment so and I hope that you will get into stay in your therapy are getting therapy and get into your faith deep dive deepen your faith and hand it to God lay his feet and asked for him to give you healing and to give you peace of mind Julie Yes ray and as for do you have to have a label no. I don't think it matters if you're if you're baptist if you're methodist if you're Wesleyan whatever you are as long as you have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. I think that's all that matters agree one hundred percent. I don't think that God really cares if we are. If we consider our self baptist or methodist I <hes> I believe that what God wants to know is that you know that he's your savior and that he died on the cross for you and that when he died on the cross for us you know that debt was paid our sands. That's what he died. Latte far so <hes> I think that you know don't don't search the title search search in the word and and just make sure that you know who your Lord and Savior is next caller place. I thought it jury has more go from cocoon. <hes> say how much I love your show but didn't question I did with my husband for eight years married for four. We have a beautiful daughter and a little boy on the way and <hes> my mom and my husband's relationship is not the best <hes> I lost my father about seven years ago. It was a pretty difficult time for my family and ever since then you know my husband never left my side yeah well. He's been there for me. You know <hes> but <hes> I just feel like my mom had has fractured she. She holds this Gretchen. I'm not really sure where it's coming from a grudge against awesome and every everything that happens it's the way they fall about everything. Every single thing that happens in my life is geared that his fall you know she just she thinks the worst about him and it just makes me so sad because because he is my best friend he's husband the father of my children and he does so much for me so I really just WanNa know y'alls opinion. You know <hes> he's not going anywhere. He's the love of my life and and you know at the end of the day you know me and my daughter and my husband go to see tabby. I just hope one day I can make my mom you know proud and so if you just let me know hope I get podcast and a lot of Yawn gover Melissa from Texas Melissa I. Let's just talk about the fact that you're having a little bowie congratulations that you already have a little girl and that you're in a a good strong solid marriage. I mean that is exactly the way that it's supposed to be and you know I think that your mother should respect your marriage enough and as a Christian I don't know where her faith is but as a Christian stian this is something that I posted about earlier this week about forgiveness on my instagram you know when I was younger I mean when I say younger I mean we're talking five years ago. I was still this way. I felt like that if you wronged me if you lied on me if you did something against me I was going to come at you ten times harder to prove to prove that you're ally and to out you for that and I have had to literally get into the scripture here in the last year and I had to realize that forgiveness you know is a requirement you know God tells us that we have to forgive and he doesn't say in the scripture that we have to be forgetful. He just says that we have to forgive and you know to love THY enemy. I'm still working on that Melissa but your marriage first off it should go and like a pyramid and I've learned that here in the last what Julie three weeks four weeks from our friend bb and you know it should go in a pyramid it should be God first and then you then your marriage and you know because if you're not right with with Christ than how's your marriage. Ridge going to flourish. It doesn't say Christ your your parents your marriage so I think that you need to sit down with your mother and you need to say listen. I know that this went down and this went down and I know why you're holding this grudge but for the sake of my relationship with you as your daughter and Macha children he is a good husband a good father a good provider and he has never left my side and you should be grateful for that. That God has put this man in my life just just because you've got this grudge at your carrying doesn't mean that he's a horrible human. Being it means that he did something at one point that you need to forgive him far so that we can all move on as a family together and then you have to lay it down at that that point it's up to her and if she chooses not to do that then your marriage has to come first Julie I totally agree so Melissa. Hope that that information helps you and please you know reach out to us again and let us know after you've spoken to your mother how that goes. I don't know about you guys but in our house it's always a struggle. It's a struggle to make sure that five more minutes doesn't end up being like five more hours circle was presented to me and I am so oh happy to be able to use it now because it sets limits and in the screen time debate with your kids once and for all I mean let's face it. Kids have a million online distractions for night the the the ultimate f word to snapchat and Instagram Youtube and the list goes on and on and circle makes it easy to take your kids offline when it's needed so they can focus actually focus on homework and chores and get get into bed at a decent hour and we have also battled this in the past of kids buying APPs that they shouldn't not that they shouldn't but they don't have permission to. It's absolutely crazy the things that they have to buy in order to play a video game with circle you can rest easy knowing that they're safe inside the guidelines that you sit is the easiest way to manage your family's online access across all they're connected devices inside and outside of your home. 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This is a limited time podcast exclusive offer. That's again again meet circle dot com slash C._C. and inner C. C. to save thirty dollars next caller place hi Julian Cod love your show. This is Jane. I do have a question I was adopted and I did twenty three and me and now ancestry and I found that I have five or four half sibling. What would you do to communicate with them? We do communicate via email my question would be would you guys actually set up a meeting. If you were in the situation but to hear back from you by had chain you know Jane. I think that if you know that these are your half siblings and they have a desire to reach out to you and to have a relationship then I don't see anything wrong with that. <hes> you know the the knowledge came to you so I mean we can only assume that from that that if God wants to have it it wouldn't have been sent to us and so you know listen if your dad didn't know he had these other children. Are Your mom or your well. Another Mama would know she had them right right right right but she was adopted. Okay Gotcha Gotcha where where the game got you so. If you know that they are you're you're genetically linked half siblings and you and you have questions and you WanNa talk to them then. Can you know listen. I don't see anything wrong with that. I mean you know just no. You don't know what you get. When you sign up for it? I mean you know you might be opening a door a whole lot of crazy or you might be opening the door to a whole lot of blessing exactly exactly the and I think if you if you go into it with an open mind knowing okay this could go really well or this could go not so great. I think you can't have unrealistic expectations because she's an adult. She didn't know she even had had these half siblings so I think the relationship has to be different. You can't go into it thinking this is going to be oh my gosh my long lost sister. You know it's GonNa be like we grew up together since day. One I mean it could happen and evolve to that but I think you have to have realistic expectations going into it I agree. I agree so I hope did let let us know what you decide though to do and call us back and give us an update on that thanks next caller place hi. My name is Jackie from California you guys because I really did need your advice. <hes> I really feel it's kind of hard to talk about it with my family. <hes> I am a single mom and I <hes> in the new relationship <hes> I've been in this relationship ever since my son was a newborn so my <hes> my partner my significant other <hes> she's been involved you know and I'm still going support <hes> he. He has to be emotionally financially so I very very thankful for him but I really feel that now as we're in a relationship and it setting you know connecting and we're getting a lot more serious. He's now. He's he's not he doesn't do the prize now. I make all the plan. I always planting if I have to take initiative and I'm tired. I you know I have I don. I have my job. It's so on the weekends I want. My partner would say you know what get your thirty minutes go someplace. He was like that will be the dating but now that we've been in a relationship. It's always been me so. Can you give me some advice. Should I talk to him about inside if I talk to him about it. It's been more than a couple of times I'm talking about. It shouldn't take initiative down Jackie Jackie Lison not to sound sexist here but gosh just don't think that way we should think more that way but I believe that you have always kind of organized what the family was doing well and again. I think it goes back to and I think expectations has to be the common topic today <hes>. A relationship is not always going to be a honeymoon. Hey Man you're not always gonNA have those spontaneous dates and that's just not real life. I mean real life gets in the way of that as a matter of fact but you you know what if it's important for you I think you sit down with him. And you say you know I was really attracted to the fact that you you know made plans and you put forth an effort for us to do things and be spontaneous and I miss stat. I know that you're busy. I know whatever and you say you know what I'll take on some of that responsibility but it'd be nice to have you do it every once in a while to think that you guys have to learn to step up to the plate they have to invest in the relationship relationship as much as the woman dies and you sound young so I mean he's got a lot to learn but you can learn it together and I think that you have to set the expectations now. Just like what Julie said I'm in June I had clear expectations when we started our marriage and we live by those today and they'll change and they'll ebb and flow but the consistency comes from your kind of what you know. The consistency comes in the communication so I think that if you get it comes in the fact of knowing that there's going to be times that one person's going to do more you know it's not it's not always fifty fifty and I've said that from day one and I continue to say that especially I feel like like the younger generation. They're very tit for tat and they want to. They want it to be straight down the Middle Hey hey used to do this and I'm going to do. This and I'm going to do this. He's going to do this. You can't keep tabs like that because if you do you run yourself self crazy exactly so and I hope that that gives you some insight Jack Ray checkout to assess no hot goes next caller place hi Julian Todd my name's Katie and I'm from Minnesota and I it's just listening to this podcast and this is crazy but like the other day some people that I know we're like being and like their army sat and like high not what which I don't understand it all and like they're saying how I don't do anything since I stopped playing sports but I'm going to yoga and like working out all the time. It's just crazy how like the Lord works from such rush weird ways that like I need to hear that cause. I was literally crying at work and I feel like I just really need to hear that to get through the week. Also I'm studying real estate at college and I feel like I'm making a big mistake like people they can go into real estate and just take that test and a couple of weeks but am I making a mistake by going to college for four years going into an insane amount of debt while doing the same job as they are like please no because I just need to help thank you guys podcast by Hey Katie from Minnesota. <hes> first of all you know I don't and will never be an advocate for bullying for making someone feel less than these are. Not your friends if they're talking about you but you Katie need to focus on yourself and it sounds like you're doing that. You're going into yoga as long as you are healthy. Someone else's opinion of you does not matter and that's what you need to tell yourself <hes> as far as your school. I am an advocate for getting that degree. I feel like it's going to open doors for you and it sounds like you're not real sure about what you WANNA do. You're studying the real estate which is great but having that college degree can open more doors and if you get into real estate and realize it's not something that you want. Oh you've got that degree to fall back on to go into other avenues of real estate so keep us updated. Let us know what you decide and best of luck next caller place. Hi Julian Todd My name's Joan I live Asheville North Carolina and my question to you is a dilemma <hes> my beautiful daughter Savannah is getting married next May <hes> in this year we've been dealing with a lot of health issues with her. which we haven't quite figured out yet we're working on many tests which were pointing fingers at <hes> either Christians disease or Hashimoto's but she completely has gained a lot of weight and within a short period of time is completely changed her books she completely as bloated and she's still beautiful but my question to you is the mother-in-law to be <hes> and I'm I'm from Canada originally so I'm really not understanding <hes> some some southern ways a lot the times but <hes> her remedy to my daughter was oh? Well go see a nutritionist. She's a nurse practitioner. She should know better. She should know that she's dealing with these things. I don't know if I should set aside and nicely say certain to her or just need alone and let the proof shows her. You know what's coming. <hes> I just WanNa get my my daughter better for her running. This been a long year stressful and very hurtful to watch and I just want to understand how a lot <hes> I don't want to you know the the mother is very dramatic and I don't want to create anyways with you know between the two of them. What should I say? I tell you know to to just not say anything my daughter just leave it alone or just step aside and leave it alone. <hes> so anyhow any hope would be great. I love you guys. We'll talk to you thank you. Hi Joan aren't for swollen. I WanNa say congratulations to your daughter Savannah on her engagement and upcoming wedding I would say as as a mother it is your job to help your daughter get better physically emotionally whatever whatever figuring out whatever's going on with her <hes> and as far as her future mother in law if she is coming at your daughter absolutely I feel like you know as to women as as the mother of the bride and the groom you know. I don't know what kind of relationship with you you have with her but maybe you just say you know what Savannah's working really hard and we're working really hard to figure out what medically is wrong with her so to make a statement like maybe you just need to see a nutritionist is not appropriate when we have so many more things going on <hes> so ultimately before your daughter walks down the aisle. My opinion is she needs to be good physically emotionally and ready to enter this new chapter of her life so good luck and I hope that you know you find some answers as to what what exactly is going on and then she can be on the road to recovery as quickly as possible now. I need you to help me understand something uptick because all that sounded so sweet is Joan asking about her future mother in law saying something to her daughter about her daughter being over way John Lewis and honey well no she said some. She said maybe she just needs to see a nutritionist and there's a way more going on. There's like medical conditions here that they're trying to figure out what is wrong with with her daughter. How does need to know what context that that statement was made because if someone said that to me about my? Savannah and I knew what was going on. I would say well with all due respect. You got more gray seventy ships. I don't mean one about mine so that's how to handle it but I'd need to know what the context was so if she was saying it as a future mother-in-law like you know listen. Maybe she just needs some encouragement. You know maybe get her with a nutritionist you if it said that way then that would have opened up for you John to say you know what I wish that I wish it was that easy I mean but we're dealing with this and this and they s then and you kind of go with it but if it was you know listen I mean maybe you need to get her nutritionist. Then I would have said No. I need to get a steak for you. I so that's you know I gotTA. I don't know the context of it so reach back out to us and let us know how that goes next caller place. Hey this is Beverley from Virginia <hes> a while ago. I'm sure you won't remember 'cause you get so many calls but I called in about my mother-in-law brother-in-law who was living in <hes> a house that was pretty dangerous for her and we were just having a really hard time trying to convince her to get out and we really had no help from my brother in law and sister sister-in-law well the great news I wanted to come back and share was that he suddenly said one day he was ready so we take into full gear and we got her into a senior apartment. It used to be assisted living and they just turned into senior apartments. Now it's perfect. It's ten minutes away from our home and <hes> it's just wonderful. She is happy as anything and she only had her house on the market or about <unk> out twenty four hours. He's already got a cash offer so I just wanted to <hes> share the news to let you know that <hes> you know the elderly they do come through when they're ready. They're ready so <hes> so keep it up guys you guys are awesome travels everybody by beverly in Virginia won't he do it. That was a great price report. I'm glad that you're mother-in-law's happy. You know. I think sometimes we don't think about how hard it is for as you get the older when you have to start thinking about moving out of your home and giving up a certain level of independence and so <hes> I think that is great that she's in that senior apartment and that she's happy so thank you so much for those positive words next scholar todd. This is nasty from the state of Washington. I'm eighteen on our nineteen hours curious that age what did you find was the most challenging about one in the independent improving improving to your parents that can be independent and that you're basically still trying to grow up. I get that I'm young but I still want to be able to do more and you know. Sometimes I find myself feeling easy are motivated motivated trying to find a job and I WANNA get out of that free. <hes> I love your show. You guys helped me with that and you know when I watched you guys I laugh because you know there's a reference to todd looking like Archie bunker from all in family just the way his face especially are like one episode where chased for homeless stiffer. Thank you Julie and I love. I love your cooking billy. So you have a good day Bye Matthew. I was on board with you and you tell me that I don't like Archie bunker or did he say my expression like art expression. I'M GONNA give I'm GonNa give you a halfway. Pass Asks Matthew. Let me tell you something I was eighteen. I was grown and gone I moved to L._A.. I worked two jobs. You know I was determined that I was going to be independent what I say to my children. Is that if you want independence there's there's a way to get it and that's getting job. You cannot lack motivation because if you lack motivation that tells me you're not committed to independence so I'm glad that you love the show. I'm glad that you you know that you get laughter. From It. Ended it brings you know some entertainment to you but if you're looking for independence and you're almost nineteen years old then the best way to gain independence is to get a plan put your plan together and put it in motion and that will start with a job so I hope that that information helps you and Matthew. I didn't hear anything about furthering your education so just as a mother I have to be to be a mother here and give you a little motherly advice. Find on what feeds your soul find what you are passionate about and whether that is a trade school or a college or some work experience whatever it is do something that makes you happy good luck next caller. Hi I watch I watch all of your shows and I listen to your podcast religiously. <hes> I have a question for you. Do you talk about <hes> business partner. That basically puts you in a financial strain and I just WANNA know how us is survived that and came out the other the other what the other side without totally crumbling. I have a family member that has pretty much destroyed by running a business under my name A. and doing things without my permission and major audits with money. They'll never have been able to pay 'cause I didn't do it and I just I feel like unjust from bling saying I don't know how to come out the other side and we had a family member that does it you have. How do you keep your face and what would be your advice on getting through something? Being disheartened dramatic was financially <hes> when someone close to you does something that pretty much does teach your little family unit you have knees. I appreciate it. Thank you <hes>. I'm so sorry that you're going through this. <hes> you know what I will say to you is is that I'm still going through man. I'm still going through and we're still finding out things and we've been going through this. Since two thousand twelve Juliana half <hes> <hes> and you know this individual did exactly what you're saying I mean he took out loans and you know and and set up companies and and got lines of credit and forged are named documents and you name it he did it. You know he would tell us one thing about how well the company was doing and then the company wasn't doing as well as what he was saying. He was creating false financials you name it he did it. That seems to be kind of what you're going through right. Now I struggle with it. Every day and I pray and Julia. Julia can tell you that it's caused me many sleepless nights and what you have to do is you have to lay it. At the feet of guide you know fear is crippling and God doesn't want us to be in fear. God didn't build us to be in fear. God wants says to have a prosperous life. He wants us to have a life that is filled with Joey and not paying and it's you know he god wants us to be happy people but we have to find our comforting guide when you come mm to God and you pray to him for him to make the wrongs right when you pray for the people that are coming against you have to pray for your enemy and you know I have learned that you know an and I live by description. I just posted it the other day. So do you know if you if you follow me on instagram saying it and if you don't you should you know the Scripture says that let the net that your enemy has cast for you be the same net that they get snared in and this family member it makes it even. And worse but you know what I mean this guy did this to us. I mean I loved him like a brother and a trusted ham and so having to deal with the betrayal was the first part of it I mean I think I went through the anger and I wanted to just punch his face in and then I started seeing the lies and the treachery and how many people had reached out to in the tentacles that he had and I know the frustration that you're having and then try to convince the people I guess on your side lied that you didn't do it. We're doing that right now. We're having to do the same thing right now. But what I do know is that I believe that God will deliver us he will he will allow the truth to be exposed and I pray for the people that have fallen for for this guy that worked for us that have fallen for his lies. I pray that God gives them clarity and he allows the truth to be told and I pray that for you but what I pray for you most is that you go to guide and that you don't waiver in your faith because your faith is the only thing that belongs to you. It's the thing that no one else can take away and the devil will try to do that. The devil will try to creep into your mind. That's where he loves to live. If Satan can get into your head that is where he thrives the most that's where he can spread the cancer because everything starts from our mind and goes through out the rest of our body so I would say to you that when you fill Satan coming in that you cast him away from you and you know you start praying to God because and say it verbally because you know Satan doesn't like to hear the words of priced so say it verbally and you know ask God to step in and know that this storm will pass. I mean Julian are going through. We've been going through the storm with our you know with this guy that did it to us since two thousand twelve and we're still going through it and for whatever reason you know God we know has not forsaken us but there have been moments that I've said Godoi. Why is this so long? Why can't the truth come out and then I turned it loose and then it came came back up so what I would say to you is document? Everything prove what you need to prove and you have no loyalty to this family member that is placed you in this situation because had they loved you the way you love them. They wouldn't have done this to you so you have to be able to go to the individual where this money has been borrowed from and you have to sit down and say this was fraud. This is what happened to me. This is what my family member did as much as I love them. You need to understand that I can't sacrifice my family for them and God would want you to do that so I hope that this helps you with what I've said. I hope that it will help you to move forward but I do want you to stay in touch with me and let me know how you're walt goes absolute next caller place taught and Julie this is Lou. I hope you're doing very well and <hes> I've been a fan since season more and I've actually <hes> tweeted several times with Todd Lindsey Savannah since you've you <hes> I'm recording artist musician and I was wondering on the music side. If there's ever been any talk of doing a record label I know y'all are in two different artists and music and you. How's your Christmas record you put out so I don't know if there's any planes or anything in the worst way they'll be crispy records or not just someone on projects so I can hear your answer? Thank you and I'll continue watching and listening. Hey Lou Anna who you are your profile pic. Has You playing the piano so I'm glad you called in and yes I do remember a lot of your tweets. <hes> you know listen. We Love Music. The entire Chris Family Loves Music <HES> and I'm friends with so many musicians and that are so talented and I love surrounding myself with people have talent because it makes me feel better you know over the fact that I don't have as much talent as what they do <hes>. I don't know what God has in store for us. There's no music on the horizon right now <hes> but you know we are focusing. All of us are focusing on very different projects and things that you know Jillian on chasing Savannah and Grayson <hes> <hes> and my mother you know we're all working on things that that's going to be collective as a family and <hes> you know I just stay back and watch and see how God chooses to use us I mean and that's all I can tell you and I'm glad that and grateful that you watched the show and that you continue to reach out on social media now here on the podcast good luck to you lay next call A. Place High Islands just calling because I was just listening to your episode about a young elite called in about how her daughters <hes> parents charges her to watch her own their own grandchild. I love your guy this response to it and my family. He does the same to me. I support my daughter one hundred percent by myself from day one I have full custody and <hes> he's recently started charging from the past year three hundred dollars to watch my daughter at work and I was very reoffended very hurt but there was nothing I could do about it and my daughter will be starting school soon <hes> but I did feel the same way you guys felt. That's your blood and as long as the parents are trying to provide and work. I think it's something you can do for your child but it's very nice to hear that you guys feel the same way because I was wrong for feeling that way when I should say thank you and I love your show that the podcast but you I don't get it. What am I missing here folks? I don't understand it either because she's raising your daughter one hundred percent on her own and she has to work I mean is it her inlaws. It's charging. Our parents gets her parents. Because she said blood okay well. Blood would be her in laws. It's not for a child. I don't get it at no time what I ever charged my child to leave my grandchild in our care player. I just feel like that. I don't think that's okay. I don't think that's okay. I mean you know as a parent. Our job doesn't end because our child has a child. Our job is apparent doesn't end until God calls US home. So you know my thing is that I believe we're supposed to help our children. I don't believe our children are supposed to take advantage of us but I believe that you know there's a child involved as a grandparent. If you're in a position to where your home can be a safe they've place for your grandchild eat and sleep and know that they're loved and nourished while their parents are out working to provide for that child and to provide a home then I don't. I think that we owe that to our child. Can't you feel this grandchild. I mean that to me is a blessing to be able to do that for your child and your grandchild so I agree I mean as long as it does not interfere with my botox and the the schedule that I wash I'm kidding folks. I'm kidding <hes> so I hope that answers your question. I do not think you're wrong and I believe that you have every right to feel hurt over someone over them charging you three hundred dollars to keep your child next caller place Kaden jewelry my name's Aaron I'm from Chicago. <hes> <hes> love you guys and love your show so I was calling to get some advice about my son who's fifteen he <hes> in and out of Rehab Program suffering with mental illness and drug use. And my husband and I are having tons of problems with them and we've sent him to multiple places and it's just seems to be getting worse. My question is how did you you <hes> with that. Then Love You love your show up to the family governor Aaron. God bless you first off. I'm sorry that you're going through this and I would love love to give you some advice. It's going to change your life and the whole dynamics of your situation but I can't clearly what I have done. In the past with my son Kyle did not work so what I can tell you you about all these rehabs and I do believe there's some good ones out there but what I will tell you about a rehab is that you're sending your child into a setting with other drug addicts and in our experience cow cow came back worse in new more from the Rehab of what he could get away with then what in you before he got to the Rehab you know. I don't believe that I'll rehabs created equal. I don't believe that I'll rehabs are there to help you. I believe that as long as they've got certification to insurance and then collect their check that is a large part of it so what I would advise you to do is to try to find a center that has a faith based element to it and you know t t to pray and to just wrap your arms around your son and say listen I'm holding on until until you don't need me to hold on anymore and that means. You're going to be with me every waking second that means we're going to be. We're GONNA do this therapy together. I'm going to be here when you get out and you need understand that I do not trust you. You're not having a door closed in my home. You're not going to be in a room by yourself to where you can stick a needle in your vein or take appeal or drunk consume alcohol whatever his drug of choice is when I tell you it was so bad and our home with Kyle that I would literally go and get into bed with him. I would literally get in the bed with him so that I would know if he tried to get up that way you have now as a parent become a hostage to the situation. The drug has now taken over your entire life. I don't encourage you to do that. I did it. It did not work for me. I failed miserably and cow is continuing to make progress. He just had a relapse. Well not really a relapse. I mean he got pulled over and was accused of having drugs but that charge was dismissed because it wasn't he is and it was empty and the other guy took ownership of it you know to my understanding because the charges were dismissed but I did not go beyond my Assan out I did not because I said you know I said years ago four and a half years ago I have done that the last time I'm going to and I'm not going to keep repeating the same cycle over and over again but he walked through that storm on his own he got <music> out and he's back on a job and he's doing what he needs to be doing. He's in therapy four days a week and this is therapy that he controls that he shows up for so you know I'm grateful for that and you know I hope and pray that your you and your son on and your husband the child can find peace because addiction is an epidemic in this country and I pray to God for each and every person struggling with it that God will deliver them from it. Please stay in touch with US and get back to us and let us know how your son's doing one scholar place. I saw hi Julie. This is Tracy from Toronto Canada. <hes> my question is I have one child is off at university. Z. is in his third year. I want to know how I can help or how I can let go. I feel I feel so sad when he leaves to go back to school after being home for the summer or holidays and I don't know how to pull myself out <hes>. I'm just really sign every time they leave. I don't want him to know onside twice. Try and just put on a brave face but honestly it is so difficult and I don't even think it's normal to be this difficult anyway. I got to give me I'd appreciate it. Thanks <music> Spike Tracy. It is normal. If it's your normal don't base your normal on how fifty other mothers are going to respond. I know that when Lindsay left our home to go to college I literally thought my a heart was going to explode the day she had her graduation. I was trying to shave and I could keep the shaving cream on my face for the tears that was that was following them because I knew she was leaving and you know it's hard. It's so hard and you know when chase and Savannah laughed. I cried when they laughed and I do miss them all when they you know when I'm not around them and you know but kids grow up and you know they they go out here and they build their own lives and if they don't choose to include you in their life then that's their choice you know you have to move on with your life. You know you have to believe that God created these children he gave them to you to be a good steward of you're gonNA make mistakes aches and raising them but if you were overall a good parent to your child hopefully they returned to that and if they don't then you've got you've got to hand it over to God and just drop your hands and say you know I give this child back to you but your child is going to college allege. He's going to further his education to become thirty years in his third year and you should be so proud of that and I know that that the P- being proud does it stop the ache in your heart for the you know for the absence but what I can tell oh you is that he knows that you miss him. He knows that you love him and he continues to come home continue to provide that home for him and let him know that you love him because I know that he loves you. There's no person that loves their child more than I love my children and I know that a child when their loved that much they that gives them security to go out and do what they need to do. Julie absolutely I agree. It doesn't ever get easier because they're going to always be. He's going to always be your baby but you have to. You have to let them go a hundred percent and I mean you know people. Ask me every day. What is your relationship with this child versus this child versus you know this child and my relationship is different with every child <hes> do? I love any of them more than I do the next no I I don't and I know that it's going to devastate you know Grayson Savannah but I don't I love all of my children. I love them all and would lay down and die for any of them right now. Do I like some better than I do others on certain days but I don't love any you have them any differently so we have to let go and we have to let guide and we have to hope that we've raised them well enough to where they want to come back home and it looks like your son's doing that folks on that note. We are out of time and do you have anything that should I say down. I'm just glad to be back with me and <hes> yeah hope. Everyone has a great rest of your week. Hope you're continuing to tune into Christly knows best Tuesday nights U._S._A.. 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Executive Coach Helen Dayen Interview. Ep 106

Best of Both Worlds Podcast

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Executive Coach Helen Dayen Interview. Ep 106

"Hi this is laura vander camp. I'm a mother of four an author journalist and speaker and this is sarah hart unger. I'm a mother of three practising interesting physician and blogger on the side. We are two working parents who love our careers and our families welcome to the best of both worlds here. We talk about how real women manage manage work family and time for fun from figuring out childcare to mapping out long term career goals. We want you to get the most out of life <music>. Welcome to the best of both worlds. This is laura. This is episode one. Oh six that is first airing august thirteenth two thousand nineteen today. We're gonna be talking in with our guest helen. Dan who is an executive coach a mother of three including eighteen month old twins and one of the reasons we're john to her story is that she was quite nervous about having twins as a business owner that she worried her her business disappear but it turned out it is possible to lean in with infant twins and she had her best year ever the year that her twins were born so excited for that story coming up <hes> but in the meantime i'm sarah <unk> as reporting this in late july terraced dealing with a bit of a childcare issue that <hes> has has been slightly stressing you out. I think it would be more stressful. If i had infant twins. That's true that is true. That would make it worse. Freeze infant twins gives me a little so yeah but no it's still been stressful so our nanny who we love and who you know generally covers almost all of my working hours and we've spoken before about how it is good to diversify and have other people but one thing that happens when you do have a very dedicated and reliable employees is that you sort of get used to it at a certain point and things happen even the very most steadfast and reliable person is going. They have true family. -mergency has come up and one has come up for hours so i'm completely understanding of that but it's still hard my head because because i generally have her do all the drop and pick up. She's really the one who's been with genevieve. The whole time and genevieve hasn't experienced a group care setting so so kind of scrambling to put her in something like that has been something that i just. I'm not sure it's worth at this juncture. We don't have a ton of alternative turned a baby sitters. We do have some <hes>. We've been lucky enough to find a really nice neighborhood babysitter that has had surprisingly some weekday availability at very short notice so that's that's been awesome but mostly it's been a lot of a scramble and i will admit that there is it made me realize how how much much her role makes me able to completely focus at work and not think or worry about the kids during the day because all the sudden without her sure i was finding myself having a lot of difficulty focusing and it's not like you know from a minute objective standpoint we've high. I hired a babysitter from like an agency. The and i'm sure she's fine but i don't know her and genevieve can't talk yet and i just wasn't. I don't know just didn't philip piece so we're still dealing with it and the emergency is not over and it's sort of unpredictable and it's also completely understandable so it's it's. There's no feelings of like you know. She doesn't like she needs time and i respect that but man. It's it's hard so you're doing so you. You put your kids in like before karen after carrot camp kids. It's i put in before care and aftercare and then for genevieve. I've hired an outside baby sitter to come although because again of the unpredictability our nannies been able to come back for a couple of days but i know that at any moment she may have to to go again and i totally have a plan in place for that yet. Although there is a backup nanny we've us just once before that may be available next week so depending on how things go timing wise that might be the answer but just all of it's been stressful and i spoke spoke on a previous episode how i was so excited for all these summer events coming up and josh and i had a couple's weekend that we really felt like we needed especially because you guys probably we remember the recently talked about our family vacation and how that wasn't exactly my favorite family not the world's most relaxing i spent exactly and i think we spent the second half of it just thinking well. At least we get to go to colorado in two weeks and relax together and sleep in and we've had to cancel about trip because you don't have coverage. We don't have coverage. Some people have asked you know if family could do it. We certainly have have wonderful family that if we were in an emergency is he situation and had no other options would help but it's not easy for either set of family so we don't feel like this is the right time to ask because because as you know excited we were about the weekend it's not any kind of emergency and we will take a weekend later in the year and our nanny has already told us no problem like of kirsh. Just pick another weekend so it's going to be fine but i'm not gonna lie. It's it's been a stressful couple of weeks but you know it's been much worse for her. So of course i yeah yeah now i mean that is the thing of having extremely reliable childcare's when it's when it's suddenly not for understandable reasons it's difficult because you don't have the backup in place whereas years ago like when when jasper was in daycare which of course he wound up missing like i swear like every other day eh for something <hes> you know had tons of backup we had like five different sitters with schedule availability that could cover any sort of our our because of that and and we don't have any now but we actually have an interesting you back up that my parents just moved from indiana out to new jersey and <hes> this. We've never had this sort of close living grandparents before they are about an hour away. They're not right next door. They probably didn't wanna live right next door but there is they're not gonna do like day to day stuff but certainly for they can now come for kit performances for instance or for a special sports thing or something and so if we we have a situation where we didn't have coverage in say i one of us needed to travel in the other needed to be somewhere else. We could probably call them to to cover that so it's kind of you know it's definitely a nice thing to have because even if you almost never use it. There's a peace of mind in knowing that it's there which which is really nice yeah. I think it's that peace of mind. You're talking about of having really reliable coverage that in a plan that plan you stop up thinking about it because it's like of course i can do this on our don't even in a think about like a <unk> which you know is is something as we talk about with our guests. You're building a business like you need to make sure you have that and one of the things that she talks about is having a fulltime childcare in place even as she he stepped away from her big quote unquote job to start her own business. You know a lot of people probably like oh well. I don't need as many hours of childcare. I don't only does much coverage. I'm not bringing any money. Yet will launching this business like we shouldn't be paying. She's like no no no no. If i don't pay for it we won't be able to start the business and i i saw it was an investment and it paid off as well here in the rest of the segment. I also will say that as kids get older. I think this becomes uh-huh less of an issue and i don't mean older like justice twelve. He could probably be at home for a while but even cameron and annabel. There's so many any different after care options around here and i'm sure a lot of other areas so it is kind of comforting to think this is a somewhat temporary problem like i feel like if this this same thing were to happen three years from now or even a couple years from now. I'd be like okay that's fine. It's just with genevieve still being a toddler and having she hasn't even started it at school yet so i if i- plonker in daycare where she doesn't know she may or may not have a good experience and then. I just feel like that could color her whole experience means of starting. I'm probably making it much. More complicated probably be okay but it's not an plus. It's also the question of calling on people because i think we have also discussed. Does that like if you were asking a friend or whatever to take annabelle and cameron who yeah they do it. It's my parents really like. That's more your in laws or something but it's it's. It's taking the toddler for the weekend. That's the real ask an and so that is is less that somebody's like. Oh you know like one of annabel's friends could just take them for the weekend or something like you know hundred percents <hes> so the little kids <hes> that is a complication that too it's temporary. They do grow up the <unk>. Let yet no it yeah. It's gotten different for us to the kids have gotten older. I mean partly even alex now. I can put him in front front of the computer and have a reasonable idea that he will stop like he won't stop doing that. I mean he might but i could take a phone. Call for instance whereas you know four years that was that was not an option at all so you know it's good yeah all right well. Let's go ahead and head on over to our interview with helen. Well sarah and i are pleased to welcome helen day into the podcast helen. Could you go all headed. Introduce yourself to our listeners sure hello everyone so. I'm an executive coach. I'm also probably more importantly a mom to three kids. I have a six and a half year old boy and i have boy girl twins that are one and a half and executive coaching is my second career made a big transition about five five and a half years ago from <hes> financial services into starting my own company <hes> and now i run an executive coaching practice. Yes what was is that transition like <hes> you're. You're doing bill sort of intense finance stuff and looking for a change. I think it started looking for a change. It's very early on in my career. In general i went straight out of school to wall street and it was very intense very competitive actually really loud that what i thrive in challenging situations which is probably why it was gifted with twins abide. I could tell right away that ten years from now. I didn't wanna be sitting in that seat so i was kind of always exploring in then i had an a hedge fund client of mine reach out to me and just share my role. All in finance was a sales role and i was on the phone with my clients all the time china sell them something but also hearing about their lives and their careers in their challenges and i realized that <hes> that first of all that was passionate and that was something that a lot of people were saying you should be a coach. You should be like what is this coach thing. You're talking about. I started started to research. It and i really started to help this. One hedge fund client <hes> as he was going through some really challenging things and i discovered that there's this whole amazing using world of executive coaching it could be a real career and it was kind of a combination of things the timing was i was kinda getting getting token in my career arrive in doing for a long time and i could see where things were going and how many years specifically yes. That's quite a a lot of experience so what a great basis burn. I got two years of experience in clients and it's hard to walk away from that right but it was you know i had already ready. Had my signing was about a year old. I was seeing him about forty minutes. A day of with mine old job and i didn't feel fulfilled at work and my mom was diagnosed with ovarian aaron cancer which put life into perspective. I think all that combined made me realize that i need to i need to do what feels the filling i need to do. It feels feels worthwhile and i never have that feeling like oh. I want to stay home with my son. I never wanted that but i did have an issue with being away from him for something. That didn't feel like me that didn't just felt like a paycheck even though it was a really nice peach there is on that but it wasn't enough for me. I think it's not enough for most people yes so so you're building this coaching business than you know. You're sort of getting your feet under you getting lots of clients and then you decide to go for baby number two and so how did that process shakeout so i'm going to be super super transparent with all my kids. I needed to go through fertility treatment and to all my doctors. I said whatever you do. I don't want doc twins. I i was very very clear. I think my kids are gonna listen to this in a few years ago. You didn't want us kids i wanted to do i wanted all of you but in that moment i did nothing i wanted to handle so i went through fertility treatment. Knowing there was arrested. I took us quite a while and during that time i'm just kind of plugging away. Okay you know taking care of my son and building my business so i just want to clarify that there was at no point. Did i take away the childcare that we had in place for my son. Even when i left wall street and took a head for a tour income so i walked away from wall street started arctic company and i saw keeping our nanny as an investment to the business i really thought about that way because otherwise it would have had so much guilt about it just gotten in the way i'm sorry would walk out. You know i kind of treated like like the old world where i would walk out of the house and i worked for certain number of hours and then after his his bedtime and the main difference was that you had more control over what those allies yes. I definitely have more flexibility on but i at first you know when i go off on your own. You don't have any structures so you kind of overdo it in both directions and then i realized okay. I'm just going to set boundaries and frameworks. It's an enormous creative formula for my life and for my day so at first i was single. I work so i can't take him to pre k. Not none of the days and then i was like well why like i'll take him to pre k. twice a week and get the fulfilment and then maybe later that those days or something like that <hes> secreting the boundaries is really helpful to me and small and okay so okay. Let's get to the store. I was gonna say that back. You know you're undergoing facility treatments eight minutes. You're building up your business and then what happens and then i get the call that the blood work came back and i'm pregnant super super excited and we go in far i kind of <hes> ultrasonogram monitoring with my husband and the doctors kind of you you know in there taking a log trying to find the heartbeat and i look at him and i say it's just one right and he says oh oh. I wish you hadn't said that saying that caused their conception seriously. I'm like getting chills feels. I can't that moment must have been unreal and i said what he said well. Here's one and here's two and i just remember in my husband was on one of those small stolz that wheel around and i just remember him wheeling all the way up against the wall just leaning for support and at that point i just started laughing but moments later when we left the the appointment that's when everything kicked in and there were months months of anxiety around. How am i gonna do this right so i don't know what version is more difficult. I don't now if having to its first is more difficult because you're learning everything your parents for the first time or my version where you're have one and you know all the things that go into it and so for me. I just knew i knew what you needed to do to nurse a child. I knew what you needed to do to change diaper. I knew what you needed to do to get around the city. I live in new york city so for me i was like how is it possible to do that with two so it was this intense feeling that i was gonna fail in every front i and i was really worried about my business because i had spent five years building it up and i really really wanted it to continue describe and succeed because i was really nice momentum and i was convinced that the year they were born the business of our we're gonna take a quick break so that in a moment we can hear the rest of that story. We'll be right back. Listeners were happy to bring back one of our favorite clothing sponsors answers in 'em lavar a great fit for our listeners because emma flers goal is to take the work out of getting dressed for work. We know you have better things to do than spending your time. I am sifting through garment racks at a crowded department store. I know laura has been wearing a muffler for a while now. 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E. t. c. i. r. c. l. l. e. dot com slash best of e._s._p. Thirty dollars off when you visit meet circle dot com slash best up inter best of at checkout. This is is a limited time podcast exclusive offer so please go check it out. Okay we're back. I am reminding you that we were about to hear what was about to happen with with your business helen. After the twins yes so i assume that everything was gonna fall apart and but it actually turned out very differently only so the kids were born about four weeks earlier than expected so that was obviously a challenge in itself and i i knew because i i had a child before because some women i've worked with working. Mom's learned a lot from as well that i needed to make sure that i was creating eating a really large support network around myself especially with twins so we really put a lot in place <hes> we had family help. Even though we had a nanny for our older they won. We had family help. We had help in the evenings because both my husband and i were working. One of the things i did that. I probably wouldn't recommend. I went back to work <music> at eight weeks. I wasn't full-time right. It was a part time on my own terms but it did go back to <hes> certain engagement certain assignments that i was working in at eight weeks more yeah now. I was going to ask you about how you even plan out the the maternity leave because when you work for yourself and i can say this from having tried to do it four times. It's difficult to take any sort of maternity leave because the business is you like. There's not somebody else brighten laura vander under camp staff when laura vanderkaay isn't available <hes> and same with you. Your business is helen coaching her clients and so if helen is not available there is no business so how how did you manage that with your clients in their expectations planning for that ahead of time sure so i hired somebody to help help me operationally get cleaned up. That was one of the first things they did months before i was due and do you mean like some kind of a likeness an executive assistant type of can operations project manager. He helped me with some of the technology to put things in place that could operate on their own to certain emails could be automatically adequately responded to i. I don't mean like out of office but some of the other things that were going through my website. Also i made sure that i kind of timed named a lot of the engagement i was working on so that they would kind of dwindle or weren't in the heat of the work so in executive coaching there are moments in an engagement engagement is usually three to six months long their moments in an engagement that they are kinda more intense at where you're doing assessments with the the person you're developing their goals. You really kicking things into gear to start to make changes for that executive. I made sure that none of my engagements were at that stage so i frontloaded a lot of that work and i tried to be a very hard but i kind of have to say now or not. Invite certain engagements instead. I knew we're gonna peak at in january. Which was when i was when i had the trance as so timing planning timing saying now i guess was was a part of which was very hard for me but i also with some people i was. I shared with them. My concerns there was a woman who was the head of leadership in development at a large bank was a client of mine and i said to her. I said i'm really worried that because i'm having kids because i'm expecting because i'm expecting twins that people are gonna write me off and not call me for executive coaching engagement because they're gonna assume that i'm not unable to handle and engagement like that when i'm dealing with three kids so that was a real vulnerability moment for me because with some people i didn't even tell him that i was expecting because they hadn't seen you all the time a lot of our conversations over the phone over email it in the people that were i'm talking talking about. Engagements not the clients clients. I see in persons. Those always see me but like the h._r. Context and i just wasn't i didn't if we didn't have engagement and i felt like i don't want them to have an assumption so that was an internal thing that i really had to deal with and then i realized well. This isn't going to serve me and i decided to be vulnerable. I'm uh-huh and i i read the book daring greatly firing brown which is really powerful ron really moved me and i realized that being vulnerable i can use as as almost like a a power move or minus those how i prepare the authentic about it but then as you're scaling back up you you said yes to a lot of things i think we you and i talked earlier about how you basically said yes to pretty much everything in order to assure people that you know you you are still in the game but <hes> yeah absolutely and so then i did the opposite right like in preparation i was starting to shift down and then when i came back i i started saying yes to things really early so that particular woman that i mentioned where i shared my bone ability with her at a month after having i think it was a month and a half after i had the twins she we he's shop to me saying. I realize it's early but i've got to engagements that i think you're perfect for. Would you be willing to come in and have a meeting and i said yes and i did not feel ready to say yes. I was like this is super transparent and may be gross to vote but i i was like topless all day. Long nursing twins like he's literally. You can't even put don't bother putting a shirt on when you're nursing twins. I just point is so an i'm. I'm getting this email like while. The kids are on me and i'm like yeah. I'm gonna have to go find something that fits and doesn't is leak proof but yes. I'll come in you know so i against everything and it was physically very hard but because it's such a strong support network in might might kids knew the people that that were taking care of them that was really helpful to me at mentally yeah and the good news with you know meeting about initial suffer engagements is there tends to be some sort of lag between like getting the putting in the proposal and it's starting so it's like if you hadn't done the early meetings. You wouldn't have been able to start up a couple of months later. I mean that's the the laura yeah exactly so that was that was something that i really knew that if i show up to this meeting i wasn't going to have the engagement the next week so i trusted. I trusted the process assessed that there was going to be a lag. I was just going to have to n._s. My style in general. I say yes to things not always feeling prepared and that's always worked for me and and i think i'm very honest like i'll have to develop this. I'll have to think through this but i jump into things. I don't think i could have started business having no allen d experience having no coaching experience if i didn't do that yeah so why don't we talk. Why don't we pivot from this to some of the exercises that you do with your clients because of course one of the reasons that we wanted to have you on. We've got a lot of you know executive material listeners <hes> who are trying to figure out how to put their best foot forward to his share their gifts with the world to be confident leaders and you've got some great exercises that you do so why don't you talk us through some some of your favorite sure so one of the topics that comes up very often in my coaching work. Some of the things that people want to work on is being more influential shaw and having more of a voice in their organization in their business with their clients so with that. I developed a model altima kalamata. It's at three step model. Oh a and i'll go through it <hes> but before i actually go through it. I want to use it in with an example zampa client. I worked with so this was a woman who had fifteen years of work experience. She worked at a very large global. Pharmaceutical company was at a relatively a senior leadership role and she went for the next odd leadership stabbed so she was applying to become the u._s. Asks head of her department and she was passed over so she was not chosen for the role and a gentleman. They used to work for her was pat was chosen for the role. It was rushing to hers you can imagine and the organization brought me in and i it took me a bit of time to figure out why are they bring me in and and then i realized that they really value her. They think that she's a massive asset to the organization but she's not ready for these leadership roles because she is a a head down type of individuals. She's brilliant. She's the statistical genius but she is now trying to step into these leadership roles roles and doesn't have that influence muslim muscle doesn't have that visibility muscle where she can navigate across countries or she can navigate across multiple cultures and work while with those people so that's what i was brought into as part of my executive coaching engagements payments i always do a three sixty where interview about ten people that this person works with and <hes> so i i had learnings and so oh this is where the moa comes in which is the model that we used with harm so the moa has three steps. The first step is m which is my objective so let's pretend you're going in and you wanna have a powerful conversation with somebody. Maybe you're anticipating. It's gonna be a difficult conversation or maybe you're anticipating waiting. You're gonna have to convince them something. They're not on board with so the first thing you need to consider me. Prepare from this conversation is what do you want. What's your objective. What are your goals and also what's going on with you kind of that soft awareness piece. Are you nervous. Are you anxious. Are you somebody that when you're nervous and anxious talk too much or too little whatever it is a kind of have that whole understanding of what do i want. What's my objective and what's going on with me at step one. The second step is super important. It is the other person so the l. a. stands for other person's perspective okay so so that is what's going on with them. What are their objective. What do they care about what their motivations and oftentimes when i walked people through this exercise is when we get to show they are thinking small. They're thinking in the scope of that particular conversation so i'll say okay you want <hes>. I don't know you wanna have five additional resources for your team. Five additional people and you are trying to convince the global head of the organization and that a person's gonna think about their needs within the scope of that and i go no stop. Don't go big go global. What does this person think about at night. What keeps them up at night. What do they think about on their most anxious moments. What did they think about what makes them happy right so we're not tapping into. What do they care about around around this one thing we're tapping into the bigger picture and that's when people go oh and usually i'll hear one of two things sometimes nice people say. I don't know this person well enough to know what they care about just common right. We don't always have those relationships with people and that's let me start tap well. If if you're in that seat what would you care about is that was you and so that really helps people. It had a sense and then the third third step is a which is a line so that's when you're aligning your jackson from the other person's perspective. It's vital that when you're communicating with people when you're positioning your proposal it is from their standpoint yeah because i mean i mean you know it. It can't just be like. I need five more people. It's like well. The global head is working within the context of everyone's payroll if we've got cost cutting going on how i do i do that taking five people from someone else. They're not how about that and so yeah you. You have to think about all that stuff and i love that because i feel like it works works at that very big level that you just described but it also could work even within a family conversation that you're having or with one of your children like you know you. May you want them to do something but you know what are their goals and can we look for that common ground and getting into their heads. I use it using my husband. All it doesn't always work because he knows my rights but but i do use it and when it's done genuinely and authentically which i think is really important piece of moa. It works really well totally cool well. I have two executive coaching quick questions number one. How does can you coach. Individuals are there because there may be listeners out there that are thinking. Do i need an executive coach so i'd love to know you know how could someone no if they would benefit and then number two. Who do you have any specific. I don't know take homes or or ideas about coaching for those specifically in the years that are in the thick of it with kids since that's that's so many of our listeners yeah as so. I'll answer your first question so executive. Coaching can be done a group format but more commonly. It's it's done one on one so i work with leaders. I work with business owners. I work sometimes people come to me directly not through their organization. Although most of my work is like i mentioned i'm brought in through the organization but some nice people come to me directly and say you know i think i wanna work on disability influence presents leadership whatever it is and i don't i don't dry can engage my company so sometimes they come to me that way as well but yes it's typically one on one and as i mentioned these are kind of face to face and work that we do on a regular basis. Usually people meet with me about twice a month for an hour to an hour and a half and you said over kind of a three to six month period yes yes three to six months and the assessments are a really powerful so there's different assessments. We can do like three sixty where we interview others or we could do. The likes of different personality assessment to figure out kind of water people's triggers occurs values and <hes> wrists but is it often in a situation like you described somebody has been passed over for promotion or in an organization like to keep people bowl but they have some real like problem that needs to get addressed or a personal ally conflict among curious. What usually triggers that. It's not always that bat sometimes i'm brought in because of this percent is really high potential and they're seeing as future leaders to. There's not really a problem. They're very competent but they wanted to develop their leadership skills. That's sometimes an opportunity and other times i for example and working with somebody who has a company that was relatively small in his now. They've decided they're taking the company to grow a lot quicker so this this person person is one of two partners of teak investment bank and he's always kinda been boots on the ground selling taking care of clients and now he's having manage people and that's just not something even though he's in he's in his forties. That's not something they've ever done right and that's not something that <hes> he's he's skilled in doing so that's where the leadership coaching comes in. I wonder what so our listeners love the day in the life of talking through the logistics ah what a what a day would look like for you with again the twins in the business which stress it one of the reasons. I i love your story. Is that that the year you had twenty said was your your business is best year ever say that that's <hes> that's right. I couldn't believe it in after being in business for five years in scaling nicely and again remember. I was convinced when i learn the news that i was having to answer it. That's it business can be half of what it was the year before <hes> when i was doing my taxes and looking at the numbers it ended up being my biggest year but it also wasn't just numbers biggest year. I was taking on engagements that i was really really proud of. I'm so there was kind of the two prong so yes. The biggest year in business was the year i have twins and it's really meaningful okay so day in the life and i'm like okay so not during the summer because during the summer my life is a little different but we'll get to that <hes> for laurie. You're dying for me to share that during the school year my morning i kinda split my week into two because i wanna have time with the twins in the morning and i also want to drop off with my older mind because i tend to find that that's remind listeners of how old the kids are at the so the older one is six and a half so he's going into second grade <hes> he's a young second grade is going to second grade next day in september temper so i kinda decided. I was gonna do three days a week. I would do drop off where we have to walk a little bit so it's nice and i get to see others on the baston. It's kind of the social aspect for me and then from there. I'll go to either the gym <hes> because his busters really early seven forty five something like that so i'll go to the gym which is by his and then i'll go straight to my office. One of the things i decided which was purely a cost it was very little benefit to me was to have an office that guy did. I decided not to work from home. I think there's there's people that can but remember. I'm in new york city in apartment. I've got twins at home and i actually made this decision before. I had the twins but i wanted to have an office separate from my home office. I'm so those was three days. I drop them off the bus. I go to the gym and then i go and i worked for my office and then i make sure i'm home for dinner by six o'clock. That's when we all have dinner as a family. I'm fortunate that my has been also comes from for dinner which is really nice and then we go through the intense evening evening of twin bed time older one bedtime or while twins are getting put to bed homework and then it's insane. I don't want to hear it. It's a long long much longer podcasts putting them to sleep and then that's usually when i am back on the computer to deal with certain emails because my day is with with my clients during the day. I'm a running around the city coaching people <hes> so i'm in my office <unk> oftentimes. I'm also running around gonna nece- violence so that's my day three days a week and then the other two days i stay in the morning and hang out with the twins for a little bit and then their nanny will do the ah bus drop off for my son breeding off getting i'm with each year i try to because i felt that i needed to feel like i was a a good mom to both in the evenings are just they're not that because just crazy evenings are hard if the evening so hard but but you're sever setup which we just taft here because this sounds so awesome which is it's a benefit of having having some extended around so yes as so so i will. I'll say that <hes> i saw okay. I let me tell the setup. The setup is that both my in laws and my parents have to separate small aw summer houses in the mountains so living in the city gets really hot. It gets really smelly and growth and can be very expensive to send kids to camp so instead what we do. Is we send our kids to be with her grandparents for four weeks two weeks at once one on family and to accept the other family my husband and i work throughout the week some monday through friday work and friday night we drive out to see them so we have saturday and sunday wither kit so we see them every week not like we don't see him for two for four weeks but during the week we have freedom like obama freedom that we haven't one had in years so we go out to dinner as we see our friends we take walks after dinner like which when your parent you know that you can't leave the house. Somebody's gotta watch them. Glorious does your does your nanny. Go there. You go. That's beautiful. They get this grandparent time. It's not super super stressful on the grandparents because they have extra help get this break. You went and they were sharing this but i'm very glad you did and i do. You think that a lot of people that say that to me their first responses. I wouldn't trust my in laws with my kids. Who really looks like you. Guys are okay with it but but some people will say that like oh. I don't think my in laws could do it or i don't think they wanna do it but i have found that. It's a bit you kind of build into it like yes. There is a bit of figuring it out and not being satisfied with the way things are done at first but i think if you use moa if you communicate often if you're clear about what you want and if you also try to understand you know you're mother-in-law's perspective. You can figure for it out and i'm super blessed. Both sets of parents are are willing and eager to help my only suggestion is. I think that you guys should do a couple of strip it for one of those weeks. Instead of just working the whole time here right maybe next summer we freedom is done we only. I have one more week left but it could be your love of the week. If you want. I mean i we we always do a segment where we do love of the week something. That's really exciting for us. Mine mine is a much shorter version kid free thing but i have been sometimes during the day i will go in the wall all by myself not like the fun little lunchtime break and and then to go swim without anybody needing to be watched or spraying me with a super soaker or otherwise messing with the relaxation that could what happened in a pool. That has my my love of the weeks there. How about you. My love the week going to be talking a little bit about a challenge. I'm going through her. Recently will not meet but anyway our nanny is definitely my love the week because she is so reliable and dependable and it's been so rare there that i've had to go to alternate means that i'm spoiled so i just feel like she deserves shout. She's awesome helen. How about you or or do you want to go with the <hes> the four week parent camp <hes> debt is definitely one and and with that all the grandparents nanny vetter there oh aw yeah i think it's hard to be for weeks of of freedom throughout the week day to be able to focus on growing the business business my friends working out every day. It's really it's really powerful on her photo cool. Well helen. Thank you so much for joining us. We really i appreciate it. Thank you for having the ahead of last this question. This week comes from a listener who wants to know about transitions she. He says i am reading. I know how she does. It and i'm doing it to just do my little book. Plug there all right. I'm reading like you read it laura. I i love your positive about the flexible work schedule friends who feel blessed and not have to bring work home with them and work after hours as i do but while i find my schedule exhausting sometimes also remind myself that from from four to six pm on one of those moms blowing bubbles in the park all right anyway onto her question. How do you handle transitions. It seems like you're constantly working on a multitude of projects. I have about seven clients and i tend to need to do work for four to seven clients in any given day. I'm great at meeting deadlines and prioritizing blocking my calendar to get the urgent urgent items done <hes> but once i get pressing tasks out of the way i find him never a structured or productive as i could be. Do you have any tips for transitioning from client client the project to project within a short amount of time our listener adds that most of the clients pay her hourly so making the mr per time literally means more money. This is such a well time question 'cause i wrote my answers and i'm going to read those but actually this was like my day yesterday because i had it was a day and i had a big thing. Do there's this like annual program evaluation form that we have to fill out which has like you know it's fifteen pages of data about your residents and what's going on and i was totally stressed about it because it's my the first one to do and so that was my main thing and i was so efficient got to work and i just like attacked. That thing finished at around ten fifty three a._m. And was like well. Well okay now what days over and i really did feel like you know what my capacity for doing. Super high energy energy high impact work was spent because it was like a very intense two and a half hours but that didn't mean that i had to throw the rest of the day away because i had many hours hours left that i needed to catch up on other things so i think this is kind of what our listener is getting at and i'll just the way i handled it yesterday and i feel pretty good about this is i i then made a list of things that were not as taxing but that would still move the needle forward in terms of kind of setting me up for the next week or sort of clearing the decks of things that had piled up while i was working on that project and then sort of the rudimentary getting started of some new stuff but without the intensity and i guess what i'm getting at is even though all i know time is money for this listener. We do have to accept that. We're probably not going to be able to turn out the most hardcore intense work that we possibly can for for the entire day. It's just not how our brains work is not how our energy levels work so. I think that sometimes when you do your urgent work and you've done a lot of it. Maybe the best thing to do would be to allow yourself to do less urgent work so i i wrote. Just you know making sure that you are balancing your mental energy in a realistic fashion and and i wrote in my more thought-through response and this is kind of what i did. Are there less mentally draining but still important tasks you can do in your more flexible time like things is that you have to read for your field clearing out your inbox which has to happen at some point or even planning your next week and making sure that when you do write your top priority list and that can be your urgent stuff but also your important stuff so maybe setting the groundwork for a future projects that it's not so urgent and stressful still counts but is sort of a different party or brain then and that urgent getting stuff done piece of that that might make the list but you write down your top party things and then when you've done them you do them and feel good about it rather than doing your wonders and thing and then seeing that there's three thousand other less important things and then feeling bad about yourself that there's a whole bunch of stuff left on your list so for me that really reduces friction and i'm able to accomplish more and feel better about myself so laura. What are your thoughts well. My first thought is sort of long term. Thing is as you probably don't wanna be billing hourly well because then there's no reward for being more efficient other than that you can take on more stuff long-term long-term <unk>. Raise your rates if they're happy with you but i think this also has that sense of the ticking clock constantly if you're if you're billing hourly and if you think about it like a vic of yourself as a movie star like movie star doesn't bill hourly like they get paid for the project so it's it's you're being paid probably for your expertise even if what that is is execution of a project so long term you might wanna transitioned more of a project based b <hes> because the do that. I'm assuming machines some kind of a consultant enter. I mean you you know how long it takes you so you can have an hourly rate but then you know it's it's less of a sense of i have to be doing this at x. Time just a does something to put out there but yeah keep the to do list short manageable dylan. You'll feel on top of the world because if you make long unreasonable you'll do the exact same amount as you would have but you feel bad and so there's no point doing that. I think are questions partly about lacking the energy after the urgent things to tackle the sort of long term priorities like marketing or dreaming up new ideas are things that she can pick her clients so in when you're budgeting your time. I actually suggest doing those things i like. Maybe use spe spend the first thirty to forty five minutes of your work day on this long-term speculative stuff or maybe it's two hours on monday morning. If that's more if that makes more sense for your schedule if the rest week more unpredictable but making sure that you have some time when you are fresh or are thinking about those long term important things you're gonna do the urgent stuff. I mean. That's what she said she always does. She meets her deadline. She does the stuff that's urgent. It's the other stuff she's not getting into <hes> and so i think by doing those things i as she'll she'll feel she's accomplishing them it though she'll she'll definitely still turn in stuff on time as for transitions like when i'm working through my to do list you know i put the stuff that requires most energy in the morning when i have the most energy same issue <hes> but i try to think of other work as sort of breaks so if i need to send an email about something that's <hes> you know semi important do that as a break between writing projects or i will record some podcast episodes and then make a phone call or something and and so by doing work as breaks you can shift back and forth at think of yourself as being a different space but you're still moving forward totally get that i think i did some patient notes as a break from it doesn't have to be a break break but it's fun your shift gear shift and sometimes they can be fun and sometimes you need the actual rest but when it comes to just sort of changing the mental so energy. You're using for different things. I get what you're saying. Yeah we'll great tips yup great all right well. This has been best of both worlds. We've been talking with helen. Dan about building her business with infant twins and we'll be back next week with more on making working life it together. Thanks for listening. You can find find me sarah at the shoebox dot com or at the underscores shoebox on instagram and you can find me laura at laura vander cam dot com. This has been the best of both worlds podcast. Please join us next time for more on making work and life work together <music>.

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The Au Pair Perspective: Voices from the agency and an actual au pair! Ep 103

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The Au Pair Perspective: Voices from the agency and an actual au pair! Ep 103

"Hi this is Laura Vander Cam. I'm a mother of four an author journalist and Speaker and this is Sarah Hart Unger. I'm a mother of three practising physician and blogger on the side. We are two working parents who love our careers and our families welcome to the best of both worlds here we talk about how real women manage work family and time for fun from figuring out childcare to mapping out long term career goals. We want you to get the most out of life <music> welcome to both worlds. This is Laura this episode one. Oh three today we are going to be talking about the AU pair option and that is a child-care choice that a lot of families are curious about or have tried in the past so we're gonna be talking with someone who's a placement counselor at a appear agency and hopefully we're also talking to an AU pair as well so stay tuned for that <hes> we're going to be having fun with that one so just two quick update at neither Sarah era nor I have ever gone the AU pair route Sarah. What what's your current childcare sat up so we have the same nanny that we've had since two thousand thirteen who works <hes> approximately fifty hours per week <hes> we also so have a fairly regular date night babysitter for most Saturdays if we're not on call and currently we also have a very local sitter in her first year of college who is doing sporadic weekend mornings like maybe a shift on Saturday for four hours every other weekend or so yeah no? That's Great Vigo's got a couple of people on the Yes. I will add that our nanny will also sometimes work weekends if we both have called at the same time so she works a lot but she wants to yeah well. That's good that's good so when we went on the nanny market the last time which was in two thousand sixteen the way the schedule was set up that were hiring is actually one fulltime in one part time and we had the full time was eight two eight Monday to Thursday and and while that's a very long day Monday to Thursday that's forty eight hours and then the person would have a three day weekend and then we'd hire somebody eight to the evening on Friday as part time and then you know having to people you have different people who could potentially attention do weekends if that was required and the the Monday to Thursday higher because that was the hours. It's actually not that hard to stay overnight. If you are eight two eight <hes> she she usually winds up leaving before eight little little earlier than that but that that's what we we did I have the option yeah and in general like once you get over fifty hours. You probably want to be looking at more than one person because it is a long week unless the person's covering like a lot of hours where everyone is in school or something thing but you know it can it can wind up adding up so might be might be good to look back but one of the upsides of appears not that they can work sixty hours a week 'cause they absolutely cannot but there's there's more flexibility if for for instance a lot of kids are in school all day long <hes> we've heard from a lot of listeners that they are curious about this option so for instance if your kids are in school and you need help getting ready in the morning in the need someone there in the afternoon a lot of people who are sort of Professional Sean Nannies wouldn't WanNa only work in our two in the morning. Come back in the afternoon to work for three or four hours but if somebody's living with you and doing other things like taking classes during the day then that's a much more attractive for both of you. I'm some people also need weekend coverage so that's an option and then someone who lives with you can have slightly more flexibility in terms of starting stop times or last minute stuff <hes> versus somebody who would have to come to your house to do that. It can also be more affordable option as the AU pairs who sign up to do this are generally doing it as <unk> educational cultural exchange in only for a year or two so the the expectation is not the same as say older professional adult. Nanny who's looking to make a professional adult salary so we're very interested in hearing from amy about this and we will be back with more on that what we are very excited to welcome amy hall of a cultural care. She's GonNa talk a little bit about the whole concept in general then. We're GONNA hear from Felix who is an opere in the D._C.. Area so first amy can you go ahead and introduce yourself to our listeners sure <hes> my name's Amy Hall. I am a local childcare consultant with cultural hero pair vs T._N._t.. See Eye to cultural care for almost four years now the summer and been in D._C.. War figured out the other day. I really love working in coastal characterized studied abroad Kalani Collagen. I wished that I had someone like Merola el-sisi. That was there to support me during this year's in helped me understand English culture is very similar American culture but there's some differences though I love networking yeah and for what are the benefits of a no pair childcare solution. What are the upsides of looking at this option so you have an appearance GonNa be eighteen twenty six year old that lives with you for a year and you? The benefit of someone who's living in your house and just to know your family gets instinct with your family's needs are you're also getting the chance to exposure child to another culture. Another language broadens their worlds a Lotta families also stay in touch with their former or appears in go to visit them or weddings and funerals or just to see them. It's kind of global family the you're connected to and what what kind of families does this wind up working best for like. What is the ideal family for for hosting pair land? Your family is a family that's interested in the cultural exchange for inanimate and helping someone learn about American culture in one of my families are career. People fold that t-that forty hours chocolate is flexible not. They're not making charge an average fee if they're stuck in traffic in D._C.. So I don't think there's any real typical family. At how all kinds of different families AH entrepreneurs I have government workers families that need a little bit of flexibility in wants to expose <unk> culture in that this is a question for both view and perhaps our guests but had to find that different age kids are better fits. I mean I just have a little bit of trouble imagining you know like a young infant an eighteen year old although maybe there are eighteen year olds that are ready and excited to do that kind of thing <hes>. Does this work more with school age children or is there an ideal age setup. I don't think there's any ideal age that up. <hes> I have families that have one year old the night families are fourteen year olds so it's just a matter of finding the right up here for you and your family the one in year olds the families in any forty five hours of Karen. You need someone who's good events and for the department guidelines for the program and any place in the family that has a child under to have to have an infant qualified appear in that isn't okay the has two hundred hours of working the kids that are under two. You're going to have someone that's used to taking care of an infant. If you have a one year old on the other end of the SPEC around by was that have while thirteen fourteen year olds sampler accuracy activities he's in sports needs and things into they need some other can drive the fear around in the afternoon musk wall so I don't think there's any ideal that it works for work for all sorts mostly for the appear to feel comfortable as well. There are some more comfortable small. Children others are but with Ano- teenagers almost so I know usually pitztal yeah because as part of the process of placing people you you get to no both the families and the repairs right amy and figure out at what would match well in what kinds of people would work well together. How how does that process work? I heard a lot of things about skype interviews which I guess makes sense but I big match ups happen. So once family registers the puzzle Garo cared they get access to our will reveal pairs profiles. All the appears have screaming in their own countries they have two hundred hours of care childcare references of the equivalent of background check and they once the family's on the program they can with the appears profiles find some that are anticipating. They're interested in cynic. Next request ended up. Do A skype skype interview or was that for you I wouldn't recommend doing a couple of those interviews is horrible. I followed in your house for years. You WanNa make sure you are talking to them a lot and making sure that they're capable coming to your family as well. We need to know your family so so when you've done at least one snipe interview in you feel like you wanna Max with that appear loosen the knots request our office in Boston <hes> will confirm the O'hare that they wanted Matthew close up here we they administered also through this whole process and can guide them in the form of file types questions asked and the placement manager is the one that will confirm the mass care when the family feels like ready to okay so there's a lot of getting to know each other going on through the process okay and I mean other sort of families were this is generally not a good setup obviously families that would need more than forty five hours of care a week. That's probably <hes> one somewhere in a that would be a initial yet. That can be an issue. I do have families that will stack the care with other types of talk here in DC. We're really lucky in pre K. starts at three in it's free so lot of my family's have <music> an appearance in addition to that case. It's not in the morning getting the kids out the door and help us out. I would say it can be challenging for families any more than forty five hours other families if you're not really interested in getting to know someone or you have a lot of hangups about someone living in your household probably confirm for you. I think if you're not too if you want someone who's like an absolute professional and has. Is Years and years and years of childcare. Parents probably also not the right program for you. They are eighteen to twenty six rolls and fields are wonderfully responsible responsible an amazing somewhere on a little bit so yeah I mean what kind of recruiting pairs on <hes> from other countries to come here. What do you look for in terms of making sure somebody will have the the maturity to be able to go live away from home for a year <hes> and do okay with a situation like this yeah <hes> to close off near the of all have to have two hundred hours of love talk? Your experience do criminal background. Check we verify their education. We also do personality profile on all of our affairs in collect repairs long comrades belonging to them <hes> the color parent there we have overseas offices in all as you said we recruit from and the staff officers were interviewed eacho pair before their issues to our Martin Wall okay but I mean isn't ever at issue imagined so people do get sick and go home that it doesn't happen. Sometimes I think a lot of it is in the interviewing process of talking to the AU fair and it's also partly haltingly knowing what their personality is in their life at the amongst Arizona families that want to independent with hair is may be lived away on home for <hes> and that can just a rock and roll and other families like enough is a little more immature can feel more like a big brother other <unk> do more guidance on now. You're you can't send those kind of things so is is partly knowing yourself as family partly interviewing as they want. Your parents are here in the home. Sickness does happen in absolutely things where the S._e._C. is there to help introduce them to other appears in their area to the anything on their home cygnus long you you're right. I'm not the past homes again the first couple of weeks just because it's a whole new family you in a whole new country. It's a whole new Koch that you get to know the beginning a lot so then the only thing that you Hunkin you through the night to get to know people if you if you kind of make it feel at home here as well yeah yeah. So what did you do in your first few weeks Felix in order to get get used to the U._S. and feel L. here. While I'm at tons of pears I just try to get as comfortable of comedy as well as I could to make them feel as a new family as the what they are no pretty much yeah and then I get reading just very comfortable living disease as well so then just kind of doll. What's your favorite thing to do? They say I don't know just everything because you have so much to do here in fans all over just like hanging out with them. Yeah I know all you see is just it is a good town there. When I was twenty two and <hes> have fond memories of all the I mean it was just like free stuff to do and also you so a lot of good you know bar and restaurant scene and all that fun stuff like what what are some I mean? Do you have any particular activities that were really fun. You did with your family Felix while I mean we went to some beaches like kind of close by to some amusement parks. Oh what I just like <hes> small satellite just going to pull up some trans or something that's agent best part at a segment you do something with a camera you know and with recall yeah yeah well. Let's pause for a minute and take a word from our sponsors listeners. 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I'm amy I have a question because when you and I talked earlier about this I learned something which is that one of the biggest challenges and the things that can cause sort of the most <hes> difficulties for for families in pairs placements in general is driving which I wouldn't have thought was was going to be the issue but describe what what happens with with driving and why this can be a challenge whilst I think America's a very carson culture and not every other culture is and they're just different standards in different countries or what it requires to get your driver's license and so if he loses from Germany to get your driver's license from their requires hours and hours of practice there are other countries that are will more relaxed on the Dylan mean the appears from Columbia and Brazil aren't <unk> has lots of great. Oh here's from Brazil Viagra guy was is just that you'll want to think through the office of your immune affairs and asking questions are they driving their own harvey day or they barring friends Harlan's Evita practice have they have their license for years or two months to kind of get an assessment of the quality and he goes back to your temperament as a host family in in your frustration for that so I never recommend the seamless buy a new car an older car that you're not gonNA mind if you get something volant and then just remember that they are eighteen to twenty six they don't necessarily have no twenty years of driving experience like you do and sometimes will make the wrong button and call and it doesn't mean they're not a safe driver. Usually they are drivers. It's just like you know a tiny parking accident. On the first month. Thank the broken through the gas instead of the brake kind of thing so understanding the host family that they are. He's twenty six and sometimes they might make a different judgment. Call then you're the dumb logistics questions related up related to that. Do they have to take a driver's test of the U._S.. So it depends on the state and what the States require in D._c.. The appears just have to take their home country license essence <unk> the written examination and they can usually get a d._c.. Guard licence with just the written exam unless they fail written exam repents than they have to do the Rosedale says but there are other states <hes> like Virginia and in Maryland where the appears to have to do with skills tests and less in Virginia. I think French and German appears are exempted from the Roseville test very game meal that with as one of the things that S._e._T._i.. <unk> for how the rope care driver's license when they get here if that's something you wind up doing a lot of for your family Felix there you are you doing every morning. I drove him to school every I'm not pick them up driving to all the activities and all thought I emulate yeah yeah I can imagine that that's something that a lot of families with school aged children definitely need is it is a good driver so admirably <unk> logistics bent in space rooms young like is there a specific requirements of how much of their own space. Inheriting is the opposite of me bugging your ten year old but can they stay in a small room in the basement. Are there like you know <unk> best. The rate limiting thing for a lot of friends in college. Did I have is that they don't have a dedicated room so yes and that is you know I'm in D._C.. So a lot of people live in smaller homes so the suit apartment requires that the AU pair have their own room and it be private rim of the AU pairs used only during that year. You can't be getting it on AIRBNB while you guys aren't making or anything that has to be the room and there's no real limitation on the size. It does have to meet like fire. Safety codes is in a basement. Are there two ways to get out of it have a window on more a second door that it's in a different place ace but as long as it's a private ran for them you can see small. I have family that live in no nineteen thirty grow houses that have come small bedroom but you're also endorsed down so right. You know it's maybe not on my other appears that you're also really close walking distance other stuff yeah and generally. They need a car especially. If the whole thing is you're having them drive around. They would need a car available further use yes yes and that can be as your car again. He sees the stanleys will commute by like Metro bus or some other ways or by Enzo. The appear uses are more than I was in does as long as if you're having the drive you need preventative. They aren't as well yes of course <hes> and what's what's sort of the assumption is also that you're GonNa take them with you. On any sort of family weekend like because the whole point one is cultural exchange right that <hes> <hes> but but then they also are supposed to have certain time off as well so I'm curious how that works yet so they can work up to forty five dollars a week in the marlins nose day a- and then <hes> the day and a half off every week and will be enough every month okay because you're living with his family. There's kind of a gray area and I do usually recommended beginning with the first month or two while the appears getting committed to the U._S. that you buy them to any activities you're doing as a family for the first couple months <hes> n even passant in just being clear about when they're on duty versus off duty in situations feeling saying earlier about the party a lot of them really enjoy getting to meet other Americans in seeing whether American family does some of the characters on vacation with them and the really enjoy that because it's like did you but there are also families that like they're going to see grandma <unk> have spare bedroom that can be dedicated just to the AU pair and so as long as they're telling me Oh care in advance he in two or three months live travel plans stock video fierce week of vacation. Get two weeks vacation minimum every year also Felix I mean with the people listening to this are probably a lot of families who are considering having an AU pair at some point. What sort of advice do you have for host families <hes> that would would make the whole process go well? Well probably like first of all. They should treat the O._P._N.. I WanNa that little channels on children just because it is another hosting your house and you have to drag him or her in a nice way and the better you treat him her. They teach your kids as well because unhappy they tickets to be happy. I Dunno but that they have lives that they should enjoy this because that's what the country exchange ambitious enjoyed while and get to know your whole different in country and all and you're at the end of two years here right Felix. What's what's next for you? Why go on Metro monthly in about less than a month then you'll go to Germany and study? Okay go find a school then awesome. Do you feel like you've been able to impart some German culture on the family while I mean the party German so okay. It is quite easy ways yeah yeah do you do. Have you taught the kids some German on my other. I guess they're partly German anyway so the they already knew quite a bit Jimmy manege came mm to begin with but now they pretty I do like Hof kind of guy switch all the time in them all like okay this day. I'm only German the next day <unk> on thing so just that they I know that'd be kind of like some crumbles for the day or something and then it's only German so they practice that German the next day like Sunday where they can only taught English which they only want to do anyways. Sir Of course awesome well. Thank you guys so much. We always end with a love of the week <hes> so this is just something that's fun in your life right now. It can be a saying it can be a place is an event <hes> anything along those lines Sarah can go. I <hes> just so we can add these. Are these are sort of summer things we've been thinking of this <unk> will at Aaron Midsummer. I'm a big Fan. We just got back from a lake trip. I'm that are hosts had this giant float that was called a lily pad and it's like a very flat kind of float but it's big and so the kids are climbing on and off of it all the time and it kinda rolls over the waves <hes> and so you can imagine the the sort of fun that the kids have trying roll each other off of it and roll with the waves jumping on and off this thing so they they had a great time with it. How about you sorry I was thinking about lakes on her legs does on very cool? Maybe for giant Pool Mike case might all of the week is I got the kids meetings for many boats in state. They have cutest ones especially there Arash Dr Combo so if you're looking for some fun Ray high-quality you've patterns Kamini Godin can spin amy how about you. It's fun for you this week with one for me. Begin enjoying the Free D._C.. Public schools all derbies in D._C.. There's free daughter of screens. All around in Maryland in Virginia desert by love is very easy to be revolt in D._C.. In the far yeah yeah now there's so much frequently F._M.. In the museums and everything yeah an influence how about you what's what's awesome for you this week well. Since I'M GONNA leave soon I met tons of people that have to say goodbye to behead like pancake warnings funchess everything day and mental tons of movies and is room night twenty four seven pretty much. They've been pretty cool yeah ice cream twenty four seven and the way to do in American soccer foods though all right well. Thank you guys so much. We appreciate you taking the time to talk to us. Yes thank you thank you well that was fascinating and now we have our question from a blog reader of Sarah's she says I hope you're doing well. I'm a big fan of the blog and had an idea for hosted. I think some other people may also appreciate but hey we're doing it. As a podcast I'm <music> I'm trying to plan for my plan our next year and I'd love to get a deeper look at the Hogan Ichi US prior to them going on sale this fall what accessories you have. What do you think is necessary versus unnecessary for some context? I've been in a life planner since I finished Grad school five years ago and it's just not working for me anymore. I ended up with a few auxiliary notebooks. I still have to do list strewn on random pieces of paper. I know some people who use them for their personal. Life have separate planner for work but at this point. I can't really see that working for me either. The only other option really considering is the new EC Aaron Con Right on the go folio which is basically structured bullet journaling all right so what should our listener so. I was just super excited at someone's bringing up planner ideas in July and I'm assuming she's not on an academic year. Although maybe she is a planner maybe she's just planning a couple of months ahead versus six months ahead who knows but you know. I'm always excited to talk about them. I will say however that I am all for having everything in one place Jason I know Laura is to <hes> so finding something that works for both your work and personal life I think is essential. That may be the go folio. I haven't seen that product for me. I still love that <unk> <hes> touch oh cousin I do not earn a commission from them but maybe I should because the number of people told me they've gotten one because he is rising steeply but no all I use is that in a little notebook with very thin pages that they make that tucked inside that has about fifty pages and for me see that's been enough. Everything's in one place I have in terms of accessories. I mean I have a panic comes with. I have a cover that it comes with but I don't really use a bunch of fancy stickers or tapes or really anything that exciting. I will say I have it just added a very low tech accessory. It is currently the end of June and I'm already getting invites all kinds of events in early twenty twenty mostly work stuff but some other stuff too and so I my hope he does not have a great yearly layout that gives you not space to kind of future plan those things so I just went reload tech printed out <hes> one of those free p._D._F.. Calendars with one. I think I have two months on each page so the boxes are big enough to write in anti I talk in the back and I've already added the school calendar dates than any two holidays have worked meetings on there already so I think it'll be nice and seamless. When I go ahead and have to to my actual planner plus I should run into problems where you know? Twenty twenty seem so far away. Of course I have time in January. We'll actually don't already book something and I can see that so again. The phone or Google calendar would certainly work as well but if you are someone who likes to visually see things this trick has worked very nicely sounds awesome all right well. This has been best of both worlds. We've been talking about au-pairs as a childcare option and we'll be back next week with more on making work in life fit together. Thanks for listening you can find me Sarah at the shoebox dot com or at the underscores shoebox.

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Juicy Scoop - Ep 384 - Girl With No Job Claudia Oshry on Cancel Culture and Trolls

Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

1:15:36 hr | 1 year ago

Juicy Scoop - Ep 384 - Girl With No Job Claudia Oshry on Cancel Culture and Trolls

"Choose the no she talks calling when tales from real life bench naked serial data cereal you'll be a dead dead and McDonnell has got the shoe six on the on the go and then she and Cameron Diaz find out that he's cheating on them with another woman who was Kate Upton but you know they make Leslie man to be like this Dorky woman one was the other woman and I'm like you know what this is so annoying because it was about a a wife who finds out her husband's having an affair with Cameron Diaz and then Kate Upton the mistress is gorgeous and she's in a white bikini and then cameras they make it like she's not as hot as Kate Woodland Hills village celebrating my best friend lives birthday there were some stars there I ran into Damon waned junior but not before I got my car lost to the point where it was really scary I don't know if I was just tired I didn't pay meanwhile everyone in the parking structures hearing this alarm go off anyway just that I prayed to Jesus who knew I had to get my hair blown out all of a sudden I saw the staircase a few of Marlin who I just saw last week he called out to me and he's GonNa come on juicy scoop and he was there with his family and could not be cuter also there well they weren't TV shows they were radio shows but whatever trying to promote my shows this weekend in thousand Oaks Civic Plaza everybody better becoming people it's so she's in a wipe Akina too but because she's not as hot as Kate Upton they gave her a t shirt and then she goes like running after her but then she does that goofy fall and I'm like hello and welcome to juicy scoop well guys I ripped it last night I was three charge the wind out at Larson steakhouse in it's that looked familiar I went down it and there was my car flashing lights everywhere on the alarm I get in it I go to dry bar who do I see on the screen leslie the guys who are pretty hot by the way it's always fun do one of those Bachelor podcast just because everyone's so good looking and then I went over to the dry bar the alarm but you still can't detect where your car is and at a certain point unlike I'm GonNa Miss by Dr are -pointment which is very important Leslie Mann the actress Leslie Mann which I thought was very weird because I got my hair blown out don't mean to Brag I had some hours to kill and in between TV shows that Dan those dry bar movies you guys I know some of you love him Kelly loves him she's like give me a mid two thousand curl movie about someone regard what would I do how long do I give it the appointments at one o'clock to give up the hair do I get in car with the stranger and get killed you know he is the hot bay that was on the show he was on happy endings he's been in a bunch of movies he's tall he's cute he's away all the time I'm not afraid to give them away Bravo does nothing for me you know I'm not on watch what happens live but I'm willing to again get the AH show there at the beach he's completely covered up she's a big unattractive hat not one ounce of her skin is showing because she's a frumpy dump either she's a size zero if I don't find my car and I was like do I just waved down a stranger's car and be like hey could you just take me around if your ties because there wasn't like a big security long at dry bar let's let's start something you guys I think it's serious I really think they need to join forces I have great marketing ideas can't find love but are killing at their job of all four it this one I just thought it was funny because I saw leslie man at the bar later that night but this Oh my god Dr are why can't we watch anything else can drive art do a deal with Bravo or something if I could just watch bravo shows all day long when you get back you're like I don't know what level I was on my car is I depressed the alarm has anyone ever done this where you press the alarm throughout like four stories you can hear it she was just arrested this is very disgusting so I'm sorry to break it to you but I'm freaked out because it's in my neighborhood somewhat neighborhood where I live combined to do collapse that's my new business Kelly write it down oh my gosh I am off this was such disturbing news you guys this forty seven year old woman revenue up into a partnership between Dr are in them that's what I'd be doing is in the shark tank I'd be that's my show I'm creating brands that haven't thought oak park which is part of the girl West Lake area not too far from thousand oaks where I'm performing this Friday and Saturday that's not why I'm telling the story but yes it happens to be close to her here's another juicy story speaking of a bachelor former bachelor contestant Amanda Stettin who was here who's with two fourteen year old boys from Middle School that was her child's friends and she was known in the neighborhood for throwing drugs so cute she has been photographed having lunch with Brendon Fitzpatrick by TMZ and that is more forming she was arrested for having sexual relationships A. 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I don't know if it's blown sacks but definitely sex like oral and everything an alcohol fueled parties to lure the boys over and her mugshot she looks like Kim Azinger like fifteen years ago she's forty seven but she's had a lot of work done and it's Friday and Saturday and Chris is going to be there to hasn't been telling dot net for Tex anyway I'm like heather you have some time to kill between the two shows I just did this one with the I think this is so disgusting so awful I feel so sorry for her son I mean where's he going to go to school now I mean are you kidding me anyway that story I'm going to be following acce- he has a prominent nose which by the way I dated a guy with a prominent nose we only went on seven foot tall volleyball player I think I think she's like a little spinner I think he's having fun with her I think this could be an exciting it's really good and she's she's like the best looking child molester you've ever seen but she's a child molester and I hope she 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she's much younger than I am I feel like she is a pioneer in this industry no honestly you OUGHTTA Claudia grow with no job and of course Chin as we go into this parking structures and then you park and then you see like a staircase and then you go down the staircase then you're like oh there's an elevator and then go down the elevator and then an November I've got a couple more days coming up in two thousand twenty but that's pretty much going to be the end of it so please come see me live walked so everyone else could run like you did before it was cool and like Conan Index Shepherd Ron Johnson deal I'm really excited thank you for having me well the way I met you is a couple of years yeah and you don't have to pay for it it's free and it's like there's no like a server and someone blew me up on social media like I guess the girl who was working at the venue the Diet Coke not was like a toaster and she blew me up on social media for not tipping her and like it never occurred to me that you're supposed to tip from the green room because it's a table you don't get a check but now that I think about it like obviously like she waited on you but it never occurred to me as all of this was so new to me the only way I know that is because I went I opened for Chelsea in one of your favorites my favorite I did a post that you loved and you reached out and got me on it and I was so mad at myself because I got laid I didn't know what a big deal you guys were you never know you know it's like oh well I guess this is now you have the deal but yeah so that's unfortunate that they blew up Oh God and Chelsea had me open for her and then eventually I became a headliner on my own so I didn't go the feature out where you and neither did you really and if you had the and I and I didn't go up the traditional steps really either I was I was doing stand up for many years took a break from it just started doing it like half year before it got Chelsea lately lost in my phone was dead and I was like Shit and then later on I was like God I can't believe I didn't realize like experience because I thought it was so great you are so funny he did like a whole bit about how in magazine we talk we talk about this bit that you did all the time we talk about on the show is such a good point you to you're saying how like look at my gym I'm going to be in Boston and Washington DC in January and February and coming soon some more dates so those are great gifts if you wanna by someone tickets also new to me and like I was just like really figuring out as they went and I was in Philly doing a show and like I ordered Jake my room and you have to pay for green rooms Santa but I felt firmly like that there was a difference between being funny and being a comedian like some people are just conversational funny like a clown so once every magazine story like by journalists always noting how the you know the celebrity so nice to the waitress when it's like congrats everyone else does I wiped out a big deal worth noting right now that you said just it was horrifying like so marrying tonight that so you just had a show here in La yes until it was just you doing standup yes okay so how did you start morning toast you have no idea like this is such a big deal for me like I read your books and you'll never be ball in this town Mike God bless you and Chelsea lately you really are a podcasting pioneer lower yeah that's actually funny that you said that 'cause I fell into a little bit like not a scandal like 'cause in my life this is not considered a scandal but when I started doing shows in comedy clubs like it was got it is my little bit of fame keeps me from being the bitch I sometimes deserve to be a customer service feel like more people are watching I've seen that that how it works because I never knew that so I'd be in the Green Room and we did a COUPLA clubs mostly theaters but in the clubs yes you're expected to leave you know tally here was that like two thousand fourteen maybe I don't know it was so terrible and I did it in my apartment and didn't have the right equipment and I couldn't figure out how to edit and it was so terrible this is there was a girl that were Chelsea lately that all of a sudden was like I'm going to be a DJ and then she kept being like she kept posting things you know my career started taking off like on the Internet I was always branching out and doing different things so I would on attract DJ I launched my podcast which was like illusory podcast I did by myself I was felt awful I was so humiliated and ashamed I was just like first of all courses really offer her as someone who works at the clubs she shouldn't have done that yeah I mean but it was money and I got one Gig that actually made me on money that I spent on equipment classes so I felt like I broke even and honestly to Gig was horrifying did a terrible job I couldn't take to it I'm John some hard times she met some other guy. Dj Guy and you stole all of our equipment what she but it was like a learning lesson and I've always had this mentality it's like I'll try anything if it sticks I'll keep doing it and if it's terrible on the road again like nobody ever wanted me to their wedding so I stopped doing it all together and like I I love how did you think I I I don't know I I was one of those people that so embarrassed and I felt so bad if also stupid but it's like this was also nice and outlook that's never the reputation I wanna have you know one of my other great sayings is in you what is your adorable red headed sister Jackie yes and she is older than me Oh she's older by two years how old are you I'm Chubbier so like people just assume that doing stand up well I always wanted to do was never brave enough to do like in the way that most people come up like open mics a couple of minutes there have always been like funny berries salmon on a better green and keen Wa for lunch for dinner she has always a Yam or like those new purple potatoes it's a lot of work like transition in out of songs is not what you think it is like I respect paracels and so much more now like it was so hard it was a lot of pressure like everyone watching you 'cause like the music that Scratch Academy in La and then like word was like after the show ended we'd like to talk to people occasionally and sure enough and then then the other sister the youngest sister also works on your show she's RPA okay and she graduated from college number sister number one yourself so then how did the original show on verizon and how did you choose to pick your sister to be your co host we'll so my sister actually worked at verizon out I mean it was I I don't know how she's doing now I don't know if she's still like an end and that was the story of how Paris Hilton became no was our old producer and now she has a real job and why the dynasty of morning toes well she was our producer show was on verizon and they were basically paying her holders but actually she is like small and frail but she's older than me she's Rail Twenty Six I'm twenty five she eats nuts and like salad and I don't just a handful go downtown like near Nyu there was like it was called scratch Kademi a lot of lessons very expensive and then you went to get the equipment and it ended up being like causing me so much that's obsessed with bobby or something whatever yeah it's always like the new alternative potato I just like a regular potato potatoes who doesn't okay all forms so sources for right and they had so much like time money resources to throw at the wall and we'd always wanted to be morning show because I really feel like as a twenty five year old woman you know go-getter Self Starter entrepreneur so you kind of started this whole thing with doing your your funny instagram and you try to be a DJ had the sad podcast the B- The height of Dj Miss that I really blew up like ten years ago I was like how is this like a big deal like aren't you just putting the songs together and pressing play on alleged worked there for a long time and I had a meeting with the CEO who like really like loved what we were doing and they didn't really understand how social media works like anytime they found someone I was an internet is the the whole atmosphere at a club or a and it was too much pressure for me and I was bad at it and I was embarrassed and I didn't like it so after that one Gig I'd never did it again okay breath exercise good for her I think she's a good choice I love she like Middle America will love her she's and I was so impressed with you that you just you had way about you that was just so surreal to peaceful ask you gotta come out and a lot of like Oh my God when we work together on this little stupid film called et for people that might watch who are home at that Hour WanNa see big stars yeah that wanted to be positive I'm for one I like I aw she's real she's kind of entry yeah the Drew Barrymore I guess it'll be another one of my famous friends hugging and grabbing each other unlike hashtag juicy fruit gum juicy fruit gum to be sponsor it was very tricky and we're all going on and she went on and she you know I grew up with Oprah Oprah that I loved was when we like Oprah introduced us to hoarding Meth Ma right things that we had never seen let's wait I wanna go back a little bit and just get people up to speed so you're one of four sisters yes number three your number three and your co host that was twenty one there's no like daytime television for me like I don't watch I don't watch the talk like I don't even most people my age don't even have cable like and I don't feel like I relate to anyone on daytime television salary we couldn't match it on our show got cancelled because we had no money back then and so she stated the company and just evolved in she works at a new company but she's always been like a real yeah she's always eating an almond that's another thing in the magazines about seven like yes what what does she eat everyday handful of almonds handful through college and they found someone I had like a million followers the couldn't believe it so they brought me and they were just asking if there was anything I wanted to do or any opportunities that like I needed and like the audience was always impeccably dressed on the audience was attractive and then she'd have these juiciest stories yes she'd have Tom Cruise and you'd like jump on the couch right like the other stuff was just as good yeah like there was like this I'm I always I'm like I I was always praying that she would just come back and be like I went on for a while whatever twenty to forty dollars a night every to me there and I felt like an asshole and I learned a huge last night I now I don't leave the comedy club without giving everyone a million dollars like I think everyone's like no it's not you know it's like are all this kind of like crazy stuff to look with beats beats per minute or like a little DJ school yes end wonderfully I had a great time and it only positive things about it for the most so so with your sister now is she your closest one being that you're number two and number three isn't that true caught a talk show I'm like a Michael this is amazing was that really your reaction yes yeah work started one day we started on iphone podcasting was still very much like an underground thing but there's a lot of demand for us to just trans take audio and making a podcast so we did brilliant than it honestly a lot of the reason why we want to do it is because we thought of like a hilarious name in the morning breath and like half the motivation behind that we had a great name for it and so and it's really a mate like it's going to be a lot of that yeah you have a lot of positivity wasn't my first choice but I'm not necessarily mad about it and I think like she's the rite aid Costanza but we're all very close in the kind of dynamics have shifted over the years like when we were growing up Meena Libya were super tight because we're obsessed with on ESPN that's like ah no actually we're all I would say equally close my older sister Livia like she's on her honeymoon now Republicans start having kids soon so she's really like a little bit more mature than that's like she can't relate to us when we go to concerts on our numbers weren't that big but we were just kind of getting our footing and like learning how to talk for an hour everyday life and it was really like a good experience and even though it didn't it aw Kelly Clarkson she sings choice to hold her stomach when she's signaling she's still during that anyone's taking voice lessons I selling bread bread commercial so okay so you so you always want to have a morning show which is true and yeah I'm great unlike in any way so we were like you do realize is coming to daytime TV don't you but I love you when I heard the news yeah a little bit more budget from bribes and like I say he was like an iphone in a green room like they wouldn't even give us a proper studio and then we got studio time and then they moved us to the studio and treat and it was really cool always together every day she introduced me and there's a huge divide in my family because Jackie was very much like the leader of the actually poison lady was very much like an infant girl but the dynamics have changed over the years just give them take it back to the number one or three to live podcasts lucile halt panda McDonald he can which did you relate to the card ashes being that they were a tribe of sisters I just WanNa say I have been like on the Kardashian flow like since season one episode one right before that like now everyone is like so fake life experience and like we're right in our lives and when the timing was never really wanting to be on camera but she has always been a Christiana for us like a Mama Jer so when like bashing people on the Internet and she had literally taken verbatim like it was actual plagiarism and there was a bigger issue at hand my tweets but there is an issue that no one really discussed which is that she really played drives from during the show like read comments see what's going on maybe there's breaking news and I just couldn't focus we have these guests from this reality show on cmt and just like from reddit articles and go me threads word for word so they really did the legwork for her but I think she got all the credit because she works like an actual like institution and so it was so great like I just seen the night before I went to the first Countess cabaret show at Feinstein's fifty four and it was like the best thing in my life I was like wasted they were acting like I was Kim Kardashian like so much presents to and I really felt like if I got on stage like one I don't think I could be that brave like I don't know if I had done the third show like things would have been different but it was like the most popular thing when I was in high school at my dumbest and most ignorant so and I've had the same twitter it was a cloudy Australia and change it to grow with no job and I was like starting to use it for national purposes and the daily beast wrote this huge expose and like everything happened so basically one person that had it out for you yeah but then it got a blaze and I was like what's going on and I hadn't even gotten to post pictures of me and the wind yet because I was just like so drunk tonight before and it was just like such a way to wake up and I'm not I'm not that brave like I like to think I have skin but I don't think that I do and to like I was actually genuinely afraid like you never know people troll culture so interesting because some of my biggest trolls the second one hung out of a second one and went to dinner and so I woke up like showing over but I had the show that day and seven and my twitter was we know what they were doing there like I was so blocked out like I couldn't focus on anything else in the show's over and I rented my phone and like that whole day it just got bigger and bigger and bigger and like I literally never thought it was going to end it was just like the worst timing so I had a month before decided like I want to start doing stand up and he sold three shows at Caroline's to shows and it was awesome and I was like so ready for the third one and then like it's like I didn't know I was so popular I wasn't you know no one even cared about that was the articles written on buzzfeed and all those that was the first time anyone had ever written about me which is so crazy reporter and when I was reading the article I was like these sounds so familiar because there's been like you know if you ever search your name on red at like that's the worst thing you could do or like some of those forums that are dedicated to just I'd hadn't gotten to the place editor eventually got seven in the morning so I was like whatever like maybe it'll blow over like I had a pit in my stomach made to do the show that day and on the show like and we use our phones Ah yes I want to finish your your story about so when you guys did this show and for how long were you doing the morning breath almost a year like right when we got him I'd now I'm suddenly relevant and then I remember you had to cancel your show your stand up you're doing this stand up show and you're like I don't you to cancel because you didn't feel safe picked up one person went back yeah well actually went so how'd who was it who order who was patient zero right well you know it's so funny we're fans like they ask yes if someone you know it's like you don't tell Schreker you did she explains the evolution of a troll in the most brilliant cancelled it was canceled because somebody found a tweet you wrote when you were sixteen years old yes I've been on social media my whole life like I grew up and twitter as before the third one is when this whole debacle happened and I there was just like there was you know 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time offer of thirty dollars off of a circle L. me what did they find you they like your podcast eating your funding they may be read your book and that starts to grow and then they're like a huge fan the Kempton episode and then they suzy to save thirty dollars so do because I found it fascinating because I really never dealt with so I've had a couple of things happen not to level yours but where I wake up and it's a nightmare and you're like oh my God and and I think and all the vigor and energy put into supporting you they now put into destroying you so it actually makes a lot of sense that like a lot of the people who are the first person to call me that on instagram like they were much hate or anything on Chelsea lately and I was on twitter and an Instagram facebook during those times and it just so rare that someone would like the only thing that you won't ever said was she looks like the puppet billy in the movies saw I don't know the reference but it'd be weird face and I was like the resemblance is striking horrible and no one feels bad for you because in their mind it's like you are rich and famous and none of this will really impact you people don't really realize like this is our job happened recently no this was a while ago actually when I first started patriots and someone said get ready trolls are gonNA come after you and it was like but it's become recently like everything's become very apparent to me like I don't have the skin I thought to myself because they took a month off just was with my husband and my dog and like I just couldn't believe I'll I mean that day was one of my worst I was like and I'm always like Oh my God if I was rich I'd quit yet I was rich guy would quit I'm like I just want to crawl yeah the bed and you think it's like you're walking around a rouse no one knows but like when it's happening to you it really is so it's just a real symbol of how different times are and people are so quick like dance on your grave these days yes it's so terrible and that's why I know what Kevin Hart said was good and I fully understand that but sometimes I'm just so quick to defend the person being canceled because it's not always what you think like and I know that there are people who don't like me and I was like I don't think I'm probably ever gonNA come back one because I don't think it's physically possible to come back from something like this and to I think this whole situation has really proved industries offer me like I'm not I don't know how the Kardashians I mean it's crazy it was a tweet yeah I mean it was a few tweets and it's tweets that I don't defend to this day and I feel like I have now with very interesting perspective on cancel culture like I said those tweets but it isn't that what is supposed to be is that evolution that you've educated us and so we wouldn't write that today and so we're wrote it back then it's like this is my income and when my show got cancelled every single brand on the face of the earth to me as a client like I lost my income and I'm like okay like you can joke about me call me big Jim whatever in their hearts they believe they're doing the right thing in hating me like I don't think they're evil people I think that they really think I'm a bad person and I am trying to the KKK in my closet and like that's really but I still have to be in Iran where now I'm concerned in the same question was like when when it got so bad I was like this industry is out for me like I I've always thought I was like a tough person who had like the skin on our show we report Li Kevin Hart and the Oscars and what I say is not always popular but it's coming from my personal purview which is having had it happened to me before and I take full responsibile it also happened with the troll in my situation I was just so like I was a what is going on and I just civic yes I had a troll thing what they think and they think it's the social justice warrior mentality like we're there really feel like they are doing the right thing in hating me and they're so passionate and it's like that's that whole experience I thought it was hilarious and was like I could only be so lucky to be in a in a franchise that success rate the money yes so that was like nothing and then you don't watch a movie from ten years ago and you'll be blown away of like there's like full rape culture and my favorite example just recently watched the first season of entourage and the first really Tommy like what you see is not what you ever like you could read something in a magazine Yukos on instagram like you still know nothing about them right and then you know an and they they they they love to like it was just not an insult anymore and I hate that the I used to hate old jokes I remember jokes at Chelsea lately but someone being old I'm like don't we all and we're all going to age as you can't stay young forever anyway it was just so with that like yeah I'm GonNa Block you and I loved it I loved then screen-grabbed that like I blocked them in some other thing like what heather could you talk and heavily I just had to do recently because I had something happen whereas getting little bit sad because it was the most powering thing that you can do yeah I feel too as about the whole blocking and like responding trolls thing because it just depends on my mood sometimes I'm like the show and Oh my God by the way took her thirty minutes tell the story and it was like so long winded and it was just never-ending an- I called the radio station to say like this isn't true of miscommunicated with you and I'm sorry because I didn't even watch the whole thing but I felt bad that she felt back I didn't know that she would go on for two weeks and such mean things about your physical appearance but when we actually at the time of where my trolls really came after me we had to make sure that they weren't coming in the facebook group answer before then I hope there's a cure and you're still out here all these years you have kids and a husband that's still likes you you have that like what do you want the main thing right right to you know I don't know and I'm not going to and so then when it stopped I actually missed it wake up to go through and yeah and I was like because I don't need to ever you don't get to hear my fun jokes you're never going to buy tickets and then they get so mad but you need to read it seriously like you can say what you want about them but people say the most evil vile discussing things about them and it seems to not phase them at all so I was really shouldn't was at any point so every other word is the word for mental ray and I was so ship buy it and I was like damn like where where's the cancel culture for for ory you know like it's may manager and how did they tell you that they were dropping all over the phone thing link giggling laying I'm going to be you yeah hi go to my instagram go back a few photos that I talk with and then all of a sudden it stopped I block them all this I was like oh you go but I don't believe that a young girl like this would be spending her hate me this much I go I think it's someone more my age yeah that's like jealous and miserable I wanNA know who these people are as kind of and I remember I said and the women's like cou do you think that this troll is and will she says she when she goes to NYU like a lot of awful stuff happened wasn't a comedy club I watch everything I was fascinated from the girl in Atlanta it was in our facebook group and sincere podcast and then he watched and and the producer was like Interesting so I never was but then it never happened yet the troll was I was like when I get it monitoring a facebook group is full time job oh I'm people get so sensitive about that and so we looked into being on catfish because I was like every single brand then my agent which you know what actually happened the agents say it will so the agent at the time was one of my very close friends still is I wonder what they're like in relationships these people will work is saying odd because like if I ever left a comment on your photo like you are old and ugly people would reach out to me the old way I don't get that kind of humor was sewed what was once you turn a certain age you're not allowed to be outside no cameras allowed to perform I didn't believe I felt the photo looked like it was something that grabbed right cute girls a catfish could this cute girl like hate me this much like doesn't she have more aim rubber and you aglow I cannot engage with you and it's like you know what fuck that you're an asshole and common for you and I always regret coming for people and Kardashians picture being you are that ugly so how did they tell you that the show had to end through my agent and then right after that my agent drop may so it took a month off yeah and then is that when you said woke up one day well when you're going through it all you really see is the mean tweets and there are they say he was like yeah I got a call from upstairs like we got a we can't we can't technically represent you anymore I cried and I they don't know my manager draw me and that was probably that was what upset me the most because that's when I was like okay it's like I'm radioactivity and I couldn't believe it and Jackie was really Gung Ho on getting started and I was like so anxious she handled stuff a lot better and between the two of us like it all like by Julie that comment like are you okay like what's wrong with you you know and so it's obvious that people were publicly on their public profiles with pictures of them their dogs like who are leaving comments like that have no people around them that care about them because it would be embarrassed I will never work again like even my manager like their job isn't to make me money it's to kind of navigate this whole thing with me and when they dropped me I was just like they tell you they're on the phone right you know Oh yeah they cancelled the trump okay what yeah okay and that was the first thing that happened that day and then over the next three days it was I the show then that's where I draw the line like whoever's been you're saying I don't support women and you're like talking about that I'm older I hope you're alive when you're my age I hope you don't die of breast and we're both just crying like it was we love working together like we it was he his his bosses were making him and making him make the call which we were both just crying and it was sister Jackie says the most brilliant thing she's like okay for every ten nice messages you get you probably get one nasty using to respond to the nasty one it's like those aren't the people who deserve to have your DM's like it and things to do but I the classic of like turning how they turn on you and you almost like really it's almost like like a we really the people who support you in so I know that's a lot easier to say than to do but it's something I'm working on it's it's good you know and and it's and you can have fun with it and I think people are like realizing it can you to do it I don't even remember that time people ask me all the time like how do you compact from that shit storm honestly I'm like I don't know I don't remember I don't remember any of it I think your story is Mike refunds hair and makeup and we had a studio in Queens that was like a tiny room that we were paying all of our money for and we just really scarred from it but we got the shop and running but we had we had just lost literally over income so we had to put up the money for a show rent the studio at the equipment personnel I fell on my name like if you were to Google both of us it was about both of us it was heavier on me I I don't know why and so she is just a lot more level headed than I am and she can I like after their mom or grandma why did you leave that comment that's GonNa wear to view you know yeah they have nobody and it's almost sad if you think about it like about the amount of people that would reach out to either of you if you left a comment what am I supposed to do just not be entertaining anymore like not let anybody because of this then like thank God you guys stuck it out and now about us like from the scandal and they thought that like it was just kind of unfair and I feel like say that I'm a victim because I'm not like I today I made a joke that was so terrible and also not funny and offensive and I always try to cancel culture and the way it's like okay I couldn't really speak on what Kevin Hart said because I'm not awkward but it actually made sense it wasn't really that upset that my agent taught me like agents job is to make you money and there was absolutely no money to be made at that time yeah but I mean eh because the first time I ever got a google alert was this so even if it's like cloudy is amazing on the cover of Buzzfeed I'm like Oh fuck what are they saying you know like almost just been punish for something I said but cancelled so toxic because they kind of loop in people who have said bad things with people who have done bad things so I feel like they're putting the Kevin Hart's of the world in the same basket is like the Kevin Spacey Awesome Thank I love it so much because it was like you know in the cancer culture in the things that people your you know it's exactly everything but as long as you're willing and open to like understand why the word manpower is problematic that that's okay right totally and I remember when you talk about the R. Word there was a time when who support you but they're afraid to be as loud as the media because twitter is kind of platform that welcomes negativities so if you're wanting to come out and support say something that's not like necessarily unpopular really hard day what's up you know I was crying the whole day my voice was trembling like it was so embarrassing I would be oh I'm sorry it's so embarassing cry hey dave automatic actually gotten a discussion of why he chose to use it why he doesn't think it's a problem I was like that's enough for me black or gay but let's see if someone made a joke about Jewish people like how would I feel so if anyone ever came up to me like what you said on twitter like all those years ago still really affects me and I'm offended by like I was ignorant but as long as you're like you're learning and growing in your ignorance in knowing why and what you said was wrong you're you're winning your it's okay to not know everything that was a punchline for Joe of course a lot of things and I remember this guy walked up to me after a show and there was three other to other comics that we all together and he's like loved your act can I I really wish you wouldn't use that word this is my son and I was like never you're not feeling so brave on twitter more brave to be like okay you're on ugly con- you know yeah And so once the dust settled there were still a lot of people who missed the show and we did and I remember the first day everyone was like because our old studio was oh the best financing there like it was it was the best they had a million people bled more successful than ever you're making more money than you ever did before awesome we have such a bigger audience because of it and there's so many people who actually found out passage about how you still love and support me but you're just like wish I wouldn't say this word okay I can get behind that well I actually have the Alzheimer's what that's like but it's just explaining relating me and being your dumb bitch like that's not helpful that's going to help me grow it's going to help you grow but sending me a lovely the world when it's extremely different like yes there's a difference between saying something that was meant to be a joke that came off extremely offensive and somebody was hurt they were throwing up against a wall and rape right make jokes about things that make you sad and just because you are offended or hurt by what someone said like that doesn't mean that you have the right to just get it from the rooftops every now and then I'm just not going to use the right Pronoun- or the right things are every now and then the you can't really use the word manpower anymore because you know what I mean and it's like it's okay to not know watered down my stuff so yes but then there's also point where it's like move on with America people there was so much value in civil discourse in this climate like no one at my grandmother and my mom that had it think I'm a hoot and they actually came down from heaven and told me to keep it in my special then that your chair see past like the mean the negativity in the press but like any time I get a Google alert like my heart sinks even if it's good luck I just I almost host dramatic and exciting never need to say that anymore I I can come up with another word I can come up with other jokes you have so I think sometimes there is a point to being like as a comic no I'm not going to Alatorre so I'm not taking it out and I do make a reference to it and get ready for that tweet girl at the same time I feel very strongly that it's something that was like didn't make me feel good inside right hey and you're entitled feel that way but like let's stop treating people like having earned people like me like I literally murdered someone the what is your let's talk about some fun shows okay now Kardashians let's talk about the Kardashians a little bit so I watched it the other night and I watch it here can just like have a conversation like two people are allowed to disagree and that's the thing if you if someone came up to me and explained to me I used to joke all the time I have the worst memory and he's a joke that I have dementia on but in my special coming very triggering but you know what there is Alzheimer's and my family and I'll probably get it and you know and and I think who knows if it started already since I'm so old and changed to I have now which is less offensive job is still the same and I've never really been affected by Amnesia so I mean by by dementia so I didn't know what around and why aren't why aren't there more people working here today I know it's raining but like this one house the entire season and then you watch chuck and Joanna Gaines and dynamic duo like a chip and Joanna Gaines where he construction and she would do the interiors and then like she's so lazy and has no work ethic that they obviously never did it and it really made me realize that good I got member a couple of seasons ago where courtney she's always been the one who is very into interior design architectural digest claims that everyone copies her interiors and they were running around town they wanted to become like I thought that was like the first time as a person who's been married for a long time as finely you're showing like a real moment marriage and that and he's like okay make it opened up the living room to the dining room and boom this place is a pal concept into shocking his ideas I think it's a good idea Camila meal no okay she's on NBC show the good place which is really known for its like practive ISM and she just really explains how it's like it's okay to have said something so someone has been affected by Alzheimer's and they want to send you a message about how they hated what you said in the special but and I'll be like well I was affected too right coping with it yeah so and I and my I was just so annoyed with because with characters around him yes they were awful it was so fake and it was like sitting on this couch and then Walk Still Sam sorry like and I am sorry but at some point we have got to evolve like we've got to move on and that's why I Apologize Jamila instagram because she teaches me everything that I need to know what it's like you can be ignorant and the talk about in the last episode was when Konya then all of a sudden decided he didn't like that Kim was wearing such a sexy crazy and I'm like an taking one hundred thousand dollar house making it to fifty that's some real progress interesting yes so okay but in the but the I'm gonNA leave now but like at the same time I was like the next night they're out there having an okay that but also that's let's life she getting it done because like she really likes slowed him down and they could have been something great like I actually think if they had been like this dynamic duo because it's like everyone has their thing you know good American beauty cosmetics like outfit yeah to the to the ball and I like that she was like really dude like you're saying and this is in the eleventh hour that's so annoying in there okay what do you think about Scott this being a house flipper out and you know what how is him you help I mean if I can make a million dollars people who are really affected by that diseases triggering for them so after literate someone to see I mean they were like my my grandmother has mentioned it's been like so hard for me and just explaining why really upsets them his own show and he's doing real work like as much as it's so stupid like he's making his own money outside of being an extra on keeping up with the Kardashians yes I just found that show was one the flip in a million houses and they're like they're taking luck at old door and making it a headboard I'm clever shit like garage door making it like a French door pushes very new and very fake and and he doesn't really have a job so I think that if she had followed through with a couple years ago it could've helped turn Scott relationship and it could have been a huge thing but now Scott like I'm a true fan like I've been there since day one like I remember even watching this cease courses we can talk about that I want to get to the card ashes and we wanted to talk about I wanted you on it good what are your thoughts on him because people are now really upset with him commenting on what a women's wearing people are upset with him for you know it's kind of like victim blaming almost like you really can't comment on what a woman is wearing even if it is your wife are very tashin show naked women roars down and videos and everything but I like that she you're photos get fifteen percent off at Ara frames dot com slash juicy winning compression socks that I absolutely love they're all available right now flying can be comfortable thanks to turtle and right now you can save twenty percents marriage and stuff goes and and and all of that I think it's kind of it's interesting and I feel like he's now more open to being on the show at first he never wanted to be on it he wasn't even miked and he and he is looking at like wait a minute you know you're you're my wife your mother of four maybe we should move into like being a little more covered flexes to the support of Your Head and keeps you upright it's patented design fits any neck jaw and shoulder shape and it's proven to work and it does husband I think what he was saying which is interesting is that he is changing evolving and he has a found Jesus or our T. 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saying for years I'm like when people would rip on her I'm like I'm sorry like she made instagram profitable for millions of people I twitter and everything they were the first was on the East Hollywood story being quote experts and he wears Mike now in north is allowed on it sometimes think he's opening up to it I think it's really seeing how it can affect his business in a positive way yeah I it's like I can't stop staring at it and so that must be working to because it must be working because I find it really shocking that she's kept the ass over the over all these years and actually it's getting Sunday service I don't think would be as big as it is if they put it on Kardashians and the whole world connect brief you're invited would you go of course Jewish but it's all the same book the most part now remember north could only wear black nude and now she like wants to wear bright colours she slept show just yeah and at least they're not saying no you can't blend into the wall right right action prediction the ASS is going to be significantly smaller by May of I find with I mean we're covered I'm just sick of the biker shorts and the muted ugly sweatshirt go for four hundred dollars ripped color my God like is your kid ever and you want to be naked and it's still very much a part of how she pays her bills yes did you watch your your Hollywood story I know how I feel like you would have been one of the experts on it could just to like dupay pose yes and you know I mean but what you asked me do I think I okay for a man to comment on what a women's wearing even if that man is her she would get rid of it because it almost makes her body bigger but and she's so obsessed with being small she's always talking about her weight so you think she would have gotten rid of it by now here's being at the Waist Asri show yes I watch it I like freeze it and I'm like look at how skinny the legs are and I it necessary to defend them when it's like why is it so difficult for people just respect them like say we want about them but like it's six women running a billion dollar business and no one else can say that so I just can't stop looking bigger because if you watch her on the show being in shape and fit is so important and I think that you know she really struggled a lot with her weight and you would think that like illustrate ass I don't know why chloe and I made it so big according looks better than ever I mean chloe's is so bad so poorly done it's just like I don't under- Two Thousand and twenty why do you think that because I think any time she's gotta realize like I'm a lawyer I can't fit in this pencil skirt right right and says like it's becoming it's too much she's GonNa finally like really look at some photos and be like or or north is going to be like what's up with your bomb wise ah yeah I don't get it like I do get you know wanting a little something but again it was like when it's almost being like anorexic you don't see yeah of course of course of course so they go on a trade San Diego which is like an hour and a half dried from Newport and someone who lives in California was a train highly assery it's kind of a fun way to places I mean if you want to go and you can look at the shore but no I mean normally we'd take a bus right marriage start the party okay so so they go to some other restaurant and order a bunch of drinks and and they could take down me I don't want them to have a complex thing that they have to have as big of acids Ma right like at some point it's like now you're a role model would be and then look at Courtney's and be like it's rain made sense because the train they all made that Kelly had bed we're has done a train and on it you know genus still really really upset because how skinny you are more likely or like in My Day pee wee people were tanner wreck sick and they go they keep going to the tanning salon and they wouldn't realize how the screaming of episode that's horrifying between her and then they get so drunk and drinking on the train I can't believe that like someone died you know like the train and it's it's not that big of a deal it's just like the way these women in particular like they have in some cities like they know when ask so much bigger than every other moms opposite ned she'll be like you know what Dorothy and Chai you know it's hey guys we're the worst franchise we gotta do someone show your titties because we are we suck we don't have the snark of New York no we don't have the money hurt her daughter at the end of the day well let's bring up the fact that yeah that hurts daughter Kelly talking about being her pussy being pounded and having a jet Alexa Quila in Sarah Drinking Spices Kidding Margaritas and Bronwyn and emily just starts she they're all talking about Kelly and Kelly's like brothers sisters vaginas and it's so crazy and then they're always like so dumbed down like how could you say that that's the environment that they've created on that show I think they all know like Everley hills yeah everyone has sadder house every season on Osi everyone has like a worst wardrobe worst furniture it's like deteriorating it's like a a body like that's literally go to a giant jumping in the pool naked in front of the crew with that doesn't bother with Dr Deke and everyone says about Kelly it's like it's probably true and and then begging edvins comes perfectly tall skinny body and she's wearing like remember when Jaylo had that gene anyway guys Longley bottles pretty amazing okay she pairs it with a little Gucci Fanny Pack Conductors Hat Cute Okay and they're like oh she's back okay you know it's like emily set me up with her husband's cousin who had a girlfriend like how did you know that how do you how do you not help your friend out like a metal cheated on mm jumpsuit yes of course I think actually right now chloe's got it got good Americans back yeah hundred good American she's wearing you can buy your cousin that you're that Shane's cousin had a girlfriend or not they then get in a bus and go to a whole `nother location to have dinner and while they're getting drunk then Bronwyn Goes Bronwyn likes to have three some yeah and camera all her kids know that when they go to vegas another woman goes down like when you die it's like your corpse maggots like is it is the worst franchise and it's not getting better well I'll never stop watching never I'll never stop watching and I and I would securities this ugly top ought not to be a reality show detective yeah but after that fight which is about Gina and emily fighting about did you know that Lord at the second place and all these people had to be subjected to the loudest screaming talking drinking that they did a nine hundred forty two shots for everybody and they kept drinking and then this guy reveals that he has like what no good deed goes on so emily just like wow and she's crying and those are really good wow hand they were all right let's talk about real housewives of OC missed last night's episode traveling on Pacific Time and I don't know what's going on owner that ugly shirt lady is sitting there choosing to as a producer or something I mean she didn't look like our they got her and said do you want to come to the location so help me God I don't know how you drink on a moving train drake on that and half the women probably going backwards right here on the other side and Shannon get this is where I used to this author crying and I see this there's this woman they're like they're taking the video camera about three C. waiting to take a shed and and she's just like fuzz out her people say they're stop watching I'm like I don't know sex sells so last night there was a lot of sex so thinking really drunk then they go to the bathroom Gina Emily and begging go in the mom and dad's there to see it which I think is great for another seven yeah anyway but hey whatever you know and so she gets to be on TV and her daughter gets to have a fascist they were getting wet like hands down titties at the CIA yes that's what I'm saying I think the I think it's good for ratings I just opening God you're so hot Taryn they start talking and she's like when I when my husband went down on me last night I just think about other women and Tim goes me too and so then eh estimating I live for little detail I'll post those both photos and they even gave her like a moment where she gave like look because unlearn at the second place totally chopped in Beverly Hills you can't talk about money and you can talk about there's a there's a bar and they really never go beneath it but in OC that bar does not exist and they say the most evil vile things about each other's families gene is like Oh my God look what's going on she moves over and then the two of them just start making out and I don't mean I don't mean just a kiss I mean like founded when it comes to the drama she is so like such a pussy like she'll run to the front of the person crying like you're a housewife now you've got to sit there and take it and you gotta fight back like she and she has no stake in Fudge Shannon was born on this beach in San Diego my boyfriend used to serve my girlfriend and I we used to drink I drank and then we'd be like get it around on the ground and Vicky and her leopard worse and again the people the patrons their funding it and Shannon Madore by Brassy I would've kissed guys I wanted these lips are going to be on someone's face the last thing again it's a small story I don't want to hear you talk about it okay so she goes and there and so tearing her she goes well is now straddled her and her top is opened and do you think off camera or something she said on watch what happens live it stopped yeah where my daughter no she didn't say that last night but nobody types vicky shows the to everybody trying to say it lasts but it's just the only way I can do Kelly's yeah just say you hurt my daughter and she did that turns watching housewives I think she knows that she's like she knew to get up and also go to the bathroom yeah let me go see how she's doing Atac oak making edmonds already then they go next door to the bar and the drinking continues and the make out continues now Tamara's laying on the booth we I'm so shocked like I don't believe Whoa that's a great she's like now there's six people here I need to go where there's a three person seen so I can have more time on the camera right definitely definitely and and there But I did not know because I just had the tool Jeez Peggy and pay blonde peggy and Lineker the Johnson Herrmann and now you know what when I when I first saw her on the show Mike Okay she's not bad she's cute she's pretty she's an interesting life and then everyone can say I know what you're getting more disagree I think they're going to watch is also terrible and is one of the worst housewives ever such withing team's terrible you don't like her they're like oh they're loving it I mean I assume whatever it's exciting or they repaid or there are free or their fans or they knew about it so then and she was there to be like a possible like spice lesbian lover for Tamra so I'm like I didn't really I never saw this seems like a new so now Tamara's sort of revealing or has unlike you know the I guess she's down for that or for making out with girls or whatever I think it's sure and we will look like hey I'm going to reveal that I like to go down and women and women go down on me and dad's there to see guess what you're GonNa have some belly and they were pretty interesting but in that one they had mentioned that they had there was this one housewife that was like kind of a friend of that was like a lesbian and she was like Argentinean or something they're making out so hardcore and then camera falls off the thing the the chair and then Shannon goes down there and then there are the three Amigos arose order like her friends were there but her husband was in the husband ended up coming but not until after the shrimp mine my theory is they're coming up for stuff to do for the show yeah she I think it's a great chance great TV this sounds riveting. I hope that episode is as good as your recap sometimes the recaps are actually better than the actual episode and you don't need to watch it but I'm still going to the Queen and the queen of Cy was like anytime you want to do anything at our our hotel as we can do it whatever any any fight like she's I on Emily Gina silence she's too wishy washy like pick a side girl I think she wants to be well liked I think she is using I think she's not that she did for the father-in-law so did not obviously because it was incredibly fucking weird and just like the whole the whole thing was I don't know what was weird or like that the father in law was like a really fun cool person inside of her but she cannot let it out because her husband is holding her back her life is literally miserable and her one friend is like turn leaving her because now she's finally part of the cool girls like she's ended there so good and actually terrible franchises like the Orange County make you realize how good Potomac unlike in Atlanta like to underrated series are you know yeah so that's why things like Borse and she actually did not pass the bar did not know the toasters found that out they search like the attorney registered in his name was not on there and then but emily did confide believe she did on what trump's so she was like okay we'll I'll just do it and my girlfriend's will just come at least we get to film something there Barry Manilow which was so funny like I was hysterically laughing Kelly he's like I never had a job before now I finally do look yet she tries stealing your thunder so job now reality that is and then I think some producer that's been working on the show forever that was part of when Gretchen did pussycat said what about doing like a really but then she wants to be a good cast member she doesn't want to be difficult to edge doesn't want to upset Queen oversight who's going to get all this advertising met West Gate and she didn't WanNa be upsetting to the producers portion yeah like if I gained weight I would just be like a marshmallow on a piece of mind congregates and I feel like she she's got a waste Nice ass like hers I wish they had like nicer homes it's supposed to be an aspirational show I is not aspirations that I've talked about this a lot it's never coming back yeah rich people the OC will never join watch it because I need to see them making out I live here like emily okay so I am like an emily champion almost I feel like she's really misunderstood and I think I might be wrong but I think there's live so I really feel like there's a second emily behind her and every now and then we get like a little peek into like maybe emily is fun and I think she's just like so riddled with like after have made really wealthy people or anybody that has something possibly to lose or be exposed in business they're like no that's why people like Cameron West ought are so important to the franchise yes she is so rich and real rich old money highland park village writing she brings this kind of lead this show yeah in certain cities they're never you'll never get the rich people who are actually rich in New York all the housewives now like there the nice things that they own our because Bravo aw town called Montecito where Oprah lists and their my dad would take us to the Polo Lounge and the Polo club any played polo husband's family's not like so keen on having their ship blown up and and they let me do it and I'm such a big fan and she's just so happy to be doing it which is like exactly kind of like how it should be sorry in the universe I like Oh see because I love the OC aesthetically I like the ocean shots of course I like bars that serve tap ass- platform you have an instagram account with hundreds of thousands. I still don't know what you do yes what I what I like about Oh what someone just said they they saw cameron accelerate out and I think that the show is actually been really bad for mental health because like everyone acts like she's like morbidly obese when she's like very fine looking like I mean like no one to talk like maybe she could lose a couple pounds but she seems pretty George and she's leaving Tennessee and behind Emily Jesse you know so I actually what do you think's over their marriage her and Shane I don't fucking know and like on much she confirmed like everything's fine and they're not gonna be written peggy sue honey and no one hundred pounds I look if you had that Mitchell's podcasts no we'll be like you're lending your platform to people who don't know cowering dance or something what would you have come we'll have anniversary coming up so then she committed to doing it and then Shane was like fuck no not you could've sitting here older bottles and then there was something like Richard Rich and Dallas or something she'd bet on a bunch of other shows like in the last fifteen years glad it's make it so I show that we saw she married that husband and had it at the Brownstone or whatever yeah there's been a lot like that so it's like yeah in the beginning the high thought the whole sparkle dolphin was so fucking stupid like you can't just come on the show and launch brand do you know what I mean like you have to be on it for years slumming it with everyone else before you can use a platform to launch brand add the picture of her environmental let's say she was a fan of out it was great that's like there's some colleagues very funny franchises where it's like the little moments in detail goal to a show that knocking ranch I'm doing sparkle dog and I really think it's amazing because I came from on another show she and her husband it was like a chef show where someone had a challenge to to cook for a wealthy family in Highland Park I love when you see it just came on our show she was so beautiful and perfect I I like her a lot and you know what she admits I loved it housewives and it was like a big deal for me to be on it Cameron Adams Southern Charm was on real world Dina from real housewives of New Jersey was on like a Bridezilla or some kind of it's been and then liens totally honest about how many congeniality no she's been on like four other hushes failed Dallas reality highlights no like they they did see the light let me look I don't care what the Big Deal Isn Eddie in their gym like you know investigating her health like she's living on the brink of death like she's fine also she has the kind of body I love which is like I do think that carried Uber's not happy about that or I thought she's starting her own show about plastic surgery that's what she claims but there's no proof of that and I just feel like why would is not on the show I well I mean the only thing the only thing is like is getting another show too or do you want them to keep talking that your husband got his dick sucked product that's why I feel so weird about the entertainment it's like she can't get a business off the ground meanwhile she had a product the biggest show in the country and I don't even know the name of company she is the how it happened with that new girl carry on Dallas carried Uber they they suggest carried you suggested New Kerry and they actually end up replacing carried uber with new carry the friend that she suggested Allah Leeann Leeann now all she does is promote her you know her tour and Giovanni and her jewelry but before that she was slumming it like everyone else just being a house you can't just come on promoter doll dot net for all the dates and also patriots dot com slash juicy scoop noose coupon Friday every Friday and you gotta get your address in so you'd get a Christmas card all my Gosh Claudia really had a lot of fun I did could talk forever everybody there show is the morning toast follow her on instagram she's very funny Because you WANNA be a camera you want it to be laundry at one in the afternoon on a Tuesday oh my God I love it I know you have to go one o'clock why would she have walked away I I don't think she's that you know wealthy or that secure like she loved the show she was very much at the center of all the gossip for her first three seasons it makes no sense worst business owner ever all she does is talk about our company on one of the biggest shows ever probably the ideal consumer for whatever her products and I still don't know what business she did yeah it's youtube dot com slash heather McDonald also I'll see you in thousand oaks this Friday and Saturday seven thirty going to be such a fun show go to heaven go this weekend if you're around just added Ontario Tarrytown Verona Kansas City and a couple more than remember just Chicago Com awesome. 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You Are Not Broken, Youre Human | Jennifer Pastiloff

Good Life Project

1:11:30 hr | 2 years ago

You Are Not Broken, Youre Human | Jennifer Pastiloff

"And and and my guest today jennifer pass left pretty much spent the better part of her adult life believing she was a bad person because every single sentence that came out of her mouth when she was eight years old and what unfolded shortly after that she navigated the next chunk of years moving in and out of deep depression anxiety trying to control what happened in her life through her eating and at the same same time without letting anyone know will slowly losing her hearing and interacting with the world in a very different way that led her eventually to a series of moments that she described as a real being dropped into a well that allowed her to climb back up and try to be human to reclaim her own humanity to redefine her life and to explore what it means to be human to be alive as she was doing that she began to write about what she was experiencing in a very real and vulnerable way and share it publicly and realize that other people felt the same way and that and built is substantial she would not love the word following but a lot of people resonated profoundly what she was writing and sharing the journey she was on she began teaching she began working with people leaving retreats called on being human and that has led to a new memoir called on being human is well which is hugely written that details a lot of this journey in today's conversation we drop into some of the big moments of awakening the points of departure an inquiry along the way and how she is still very much in this adventure of trying to figure out what it means to be human and share it with others and help others along the way so excited to share this conversation i'm jonathan fields and this is good life project so you're ready to downsize will chase they get it you've had the garage sale you ship the last kids off to college you even soldier old house wait you sold your house where you're gonna lip relax chase has you're back as a chase customer you're guaranteed closed on your next 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it all kind of began remember walking in it was just like this multi sensory smile and they've got these warm and fuzzy memories attached to it then we challenge of course with ben and jerry's is keeping it in the house i confess to occasionally stashing pint of ben and jerry's ice cream in the way back of the freezer just to be sure it doesn't get devoured while i'm out of the house treat yourself to your favorite flavor anywhere ice cream is sold or find a new favorite at ben jerry three dot com that's b e n j e r r y dot com boom boom boom boom so it's so good to be sitting here with you today this is the we're recording this right after your i guess kind launch party launch event yeah you're on fox which it sounds like it was just incredible it was an i'm i'm on antidepressants and i don't cry as easily and last night was getting all choked up so i was like oh my god mets don't work but i'm really emotional it was so beautiful captors like two hundred people to my ass meant an i got the mall the step up and sing don't stop believing 'cause they have this philosophy of dorking it out and there were people there from my whole life from n y you professors and it was like i said when i walked out of my twentyone nineteen year old south could've would've never believe that or or if i believe that i would have thought oh that'll be when i'm like twenty by twenty eight you know and it's just i love it really magic yeah i mean it's amazing to come back in and we're gonna take a big step back in time also because 'em you you have spent time in new york in in the northeast before this but it must have been incredible just sort of 'em she people from all different sort of parts of your life who who play different roles in who you are in that one space together sort of like around the same idea i was i was really nervous yeah weirdly a nervous it was really weird and i went to dinner with my friend after after who is an actor whose names homa colony and he's on a show called mind hunter on netflix and he's known me for tony got it over twenty years and he's never seen me though in that way and there were some people there who knew me from my waitressing years on my years when i was like in the throes of depression and so you know a lot of times we have agreements with people like to you are in the world and so to be up there and just be utterly myself without out like worrying about well this is what this person thinks the mayor this is how they know me or or how it used to be and have it all come together was surreal surreal and all the different people from childhood from and why you like random you know people that follow me superfan of is really something to behold that how weird is if you to just say quote super fans and listeners listeners i put air quotes that writes that wasn't the only thing where you put close up their phone kill because i would that did auction my superfan a it's like saying followers makes me like gaggle it'll it's like moses you know 'em it it's weird because it's never about it's not like they're like my fans because of the when i'm wearing or anything superficial it's really like something i'm saying or something i've i've topped inside of them so it always feels actually really organic you know it but yeah it's always weird to to have someone come see you and it's also amazing and then no you yeah and that's also tricky because at the end of the day you know they don't you know part of me the part that i've specifically chosen to share and also i'm i'm just a person just like anyone you know everyone poops it's like so i don't ever wanna be a on any kind of obvious gonna say platitude that pedestal but yeah it's weird weird it's it's kind of interesting that the word platitude puking to remind also because that's it's almost be opposite of what you become known for a yeah you know it's sort of like is what you tend to see sort of in the social conversation these days is a whole a whole lot of that a whole lot of platitude a whole lot of sugar coating and and one liners and feel good stuff 'em whereas it it does feel like you have the people who show up for you because you're doing the exact opposite you're sort saying 'em i'm not ahead of you i'm not above you i'm beside you and a world humic we just shutting this experience together yeah and it's messed up a lot of times exactly what's really funny is on friday i did this interview on tv 'em in portland and on the tv when they described mean they called me yoga guru and i towels they introduced me as at an eye speechless please don't ever go through and what's funny is in my book when eight dome denver blurb didn't she called me anticorruption but yeah it's it's just sharing be the journey of being human you know i talk about the inter asshole and it's like it never goes away from me just gets quiet and some days us louder and maybe one day it's not there but then the next day it's back again and i talk about that how i can be successful right now and even in the middle of a book launch is still feel depressed or you know and and i think people appreciate that yeah i think you're right so as we sit here this is you know you've recently launched this some beautiful new book let's take a step back in time 'cause i wanna fill in some gaps it out yeah how you got here when you're very early years on out in a southern california will be born in philly right south valley and then we moved out of south jersey over the bridge and then my father's day it and my mom the best california that start start at east coast wings and back again right and i know it's funny 'cause i've i've heard you describe yourself when you're a lot younger 'em two different words connector and also worry wart he talked to me more that's exactly still me i have not taken 'cause that was one of the other is that still use of ice i swear i am it's it's amazing that i'm not a movie producer because i am in you know i meet someone and i'll you gotta know them and i always put people together and i it's just this like thing i have i love connecting people and i also stay connected with people really well so many of my friends have happened thirty five years and the worry wart thing a it drives me bananas and i i that's my international so i try not to listen to it too much but i story alive and that's a i don't i don't know if it's someone my the trauma and when my dad died suddenly ono's eight and then i have the constant worry about something bad is going to happen probably you know so like when my sister when the phone rings on my sister and my mom called immediately get that feeling in my stomach and it's just like the physiological programming and i have to really work tort just brave yeah do do you recall feeling that way at all before you're dead us i can't remember his so young right 'cause you re right yeah but i will say i i was very serious as a child and i was treated like an adult which is tricky and complicated and so i think i i i think i probably did and then it was just exacerbated by my dad's death but i was you know i like never easy photograph some even as a kid i would never smiling i wasn't serious which cracked me up now when people call me a happiness coach or whatever it's like the irony is so great it's like if you only knew you're i mean there's no sense every morning my life then you should smile more you're too serious you look so sad even from the earliest years earlier yeah yeah so when you're that passe i i know you also a part of you're last conversation with him it sounds like was also some of the things that potentially seated a lot of a lot of struggles came after yeah so my dad and i were really really really close 'em i don't i don't have adequate words to describe how close and she smoked four packs of cigarettes a day which is insane cools which are menthol and it's just gonna be hard to believe her listeners but back in the day you could send you're eight year old across the street to go get me a pack of cigarettes hardback cools in a pound of american cheese then lee sliced and i said you promise you're gonna stop smoking and he said stopping bad you're making me feel good and i said you always make promises i hate you that's what i said i said to him so i had this core belief that was a bad person and i talked about in the book and in my life a lot you're montrose you're you're mind do you walk around where and that was mind just tattooed in my mind my heart my psyche it i knew it i was a bad person to the core in france was week ice i messed up when i'm speaking instead montrose i said monstrous and i thought oh my god just struggled because you're a monster is the one that you're an asshole brings you to montrose monster i was i'm a bad person and i i really do think it came from that is eight right so it felt like in my mind i killed him and it was my fault did you when you were young did you share what what's going on with anybody no no so just sort of keeps growing building inside exactly all i did was lock it in i clinch my jaw and literally missing teeth have ice issues it's a it's it's a major problem but no i did not an i my mom took me to therapy i refused to talk i said i'm fine i'm fine i was so angry even as you said it right there you said it plans to yeah it's just like i'm fine i don't care leave me alone yeah and you know my mom was thirty four years old did the best she could do i wish she would have no you're not in and yes but that's not what happened so i was really right after that then that the you know like you you're on her sister picked up and moved to california yes so it's funny my mom right the galley that she got really upset because she's she said jennifer the timeline is you say we right after daddy die like a month later we went on vacation we actually did not but you know time didn't exist for me then so it was like after they unveiling it was nine months later but i think it was maybe nine months or a year later we moved in my mind like the next day but but yeah right i tell you that compressed my mom she was we're gonna start over let's do it picked us up moved us to santa monica california which ironically is where i live now so what's that i mean you're you've just been through this absolutely devastating experience you're family basically picks up in moves cross country in drops into a whole new place where you've got to essentially start over mhm what is at next year's electric magic yeah yes i might in fact my front of staying with around the corner that's my friend from when i was ten then yeah i started over i you know and i talk about in the book this this on knowing this this pretending that you know this i don't feel anything so i just put that behind me my dad died okay and ice i mean all these friends i started acting in in claes when i was in the seminal quedo is on punky brewster which i just read is getting a reboot it was the best you could imagine than right when i finished seventh grade my mother said we are moving back new jersey i literally wanted to kill myself and that's not an exaggeration i felt so betrayed because that was so wonderful for me it was far away from death and dying in new jersey and memories and and then i was back in jersey cherry hill yeah i mean it's interesting because not only do you sort of psychologically and emotionally compartmentalize this thing but geographically to right and it's like simply stepping back into the shows when you say that it's absolutely jazz it's like the setting just triggers so i i've seen this happened with me i've seen so many people something happens that's deeply emotional that stays with you and you're like you kind of move away from it and rebuild but even if you don't go back to that place if there's something that is similar enough to the setting where it all unfolded that you just it hits you in a certain way all my god back there oh my god or smell right a smile and my dad were polo laugh ralph lauren clone or but yeah you know to me my co hosts were in southern new jersey and philadelphia and it was really hard to go back there i was so depressed an eighth grade if you couldn't remember that if you haven't yet how is that right yeah because everyone has their friends timmy middle school is like a level of how she go i went eighth grade i had no friends they made their friends on the seventh grade year before and it was a it was tough that first year yeah what was it that made you might wanna go back to talk about in the book and i was so angry at her even until recently really not and it's not the right word because she she says it's complicated which i now understand life is but looking back at the time i thought it was for a man she fell in love with her high school boyfriend again and we moved back and so i judged her moving back for man and you know she i think it was a a myriad of things and she missed i dunno she wanted her roots back and she lives in love and i dunno now now anders now i i really i really don't judge a decision anymore and also i'm grateful for exactly everything that happened i wasn't then but i look back now and it's you know all roads have led me here so so i guess right around then also 'em 'cause you step back there like you said you were depressed 'em but when you say i was depressed it wasn't like you're averaging like you probably a lot of you know sort of like typical middle school is like oh i'm so depressed i'm dark and gloomy and we all go through ring this is different yeah and also looking back depress from i can remember 'em kindergarten crying and everyone just good a school feeling sad all the time i i can't remember not feeling shot i wish i had gone antidepressants a way earlier than i did but no so the depression i already had was then amplified by not only in like the grief that i never dealt with it but then moving back i felt so alone certified by the way by the time when in high school and yeah i just never dealt with the grief and all the things i felt yeah i mean it sounds like also 'em sort of like going back and forth between the two places there is when you step back in like back to new jersey there's a certain amount of isolation that goes around did your mom you know certainly earlier you were in charlotte what's going on inside of you were you still keeping at all to yourself at that point yeah yeah i mean now i'm a master communicator you know what i do for a living but it's still hard my family though and i think it's were still any of us right in right patterns that are just they're so when which goes back to what we were talking about what the people in the audience last night there's those patterns and in agreements we have what people are so it's like it's it's very hard to break the no i was not talking about anything and you know eventually as i got a little bit older it manifested into anorexia and and whatnot i found a way not necessarily express myself put to deal with things i was feeling and be able to control it or so i thought the so that was like the one place where you could say like yet this and i guess that's sort one of the underlying drivers for eating disorders so many people is a sense of lack of control and so many other parts of life you know there's this one thing i did one play yeah and i think if i i couldn't do it life unless i was empty and it made me feel like strong in what it did is it made me from nothing it just was numb and now he's truly killing myself i get my period for years the and all the while again this is something you're not cherry well yeah i mean it's funny i and i'm i've always been very self aware you're right so if i went to a therapist i'd be able to shay like like diagnosed my top of whatever it was but that just because you say what it is doesn't mean shit sometimes but what you gonna do about it so i knew i had a problem in no way shape or form did i wanna let go of that problem though yeah so i wasn't no i wasn't in therapy my mom begged me people my friends you know and i i didn't care and i also i i never you know my dad died at thirty eight and it wasn't any 'em conscious thing but i just thought life ended then i never could visualize the future for myself so it's almost like why bother him taking care of myself are planning on them because that's exactly yeah like life is short breaks my heart i think about that now yeah 'em at the same time in the background of all of this you're starting to experience problems with hearing when is that all store so you know again i talked about this in the book but i had this habit when i was coloring a writing are drying when i was very young seven a six four my dad died where i would make this droning this awful milley's and people made fun of me why do you do that stopped doing that jennifer a bearish and i did i stopped it wasn't until maybe ten years ago audiologist it dawned oh i've always had tonight us and it made me cry of always had tomato so when i was young the reason i'm doing this show is mimicking the sound in my head but i've just got used to it i thought everyone heard this i've i've never heard silence their hearing loss has gotten progressively worse as i've gotten older by far in the last twenty years in the last five if i can't hear anymore without my hearing it when i was young it wasn't that bad looking back it was there because although he's ever told was you need to pay attention pay attention here space could no i just can't i just had a hearing loss chronic infections i don't remember ever not having an ear infection of being on antibiotics but it's progressively gotten worst and there wasn't a lot of denial about it i was ashamed i felt broken and embarrassed and scared that if i admitted it it was true show i ignored it my friends had an intervention with me in my twenties jen you have to go audiologist you cannot hear i cried i cried did i go no it's maybe been maybe now ten years i've had hearing aids and by the time i was not ashamed anymore or i couldn't afford hearing how expensive they are identical crowdfunding to get well the first para donate it but yeah it them it was always there it just got worse and worse and worse and miserable have you ever glance down at your phone and told yourself five minutes is all you would do and you're phone and then an hour and a half later you're still looking at your phone i'm guilty raised my hand up done this and even though my daughter is older i remember trying to limit her screen time when she was younger it's really hard that's why i'm loving circle circle is the easiest way to manage your and your family's online time across all of the connected devices inside and outside your home so with the circle home plus and the circle at parents instilled their content is allowed set limits screen time and monitor history and usage and you can keep track across every connected device from laptops phones 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loud sound in my head and my experience you know going from experiencing silence all the time to never experiencing it again hoping for window of time we go by and then realize you never would was devastating was absolutely devastating to me until i finally just started accepting it and then doing the work to try to accelerate my brain's ability to habitually to it now is always there but i'm okay with it and i don't notice it in in less i look for or if i'm you know i'm in new york city also so there's a ton of yeah you know as a kind of mascot but if i go to the country you know and it's really quiet then it'll presented as well but my brain doesn't respond to it the same way you know but it was this sort of it was beautiful though i mean what a metaphor for life completely right so this is what happens when you like you if there's a circumstance that's changeable you do what you can't change it you know if it comes to a point where you realize this is what it is like how can i get as okay as i can if this is me for life everything changes you know it's not easy and it takes time and but that was the turning point for me so is interesting the heretofore it's really it's really moving in beautiful what i hear you say that because i feel the same exact way that's not to say some days i don't have really shitty days wagon so frustrated because the sound of my head is so loud all i want is forced to go away i mean it's it's debilitating but like i always say you have two options keep going i shut down and there's a nuanced options but they keep going you know it doesn't mean it's not frustrating right yeah it's a it's a really interesting thing yeah i i had a similar early reaction to you also in that i didn't wanna tell anybody not because of shame not because embarrassment not because of concern but because to me as long as it were still in my head and you could hear it maybe it wasn't real maybe it wasn't there forever but as soon as i started talking about it that made it real that's like we have with my whole life and i'm so tired of it now it's a mess i don't talk about my dad dying it didn't happen if i don't talk about my pain it's not there if i ignore my to sake it'll go away bullshit i'm missing a tuesday in my head if i had no am i hearing loss let me tell you all it only got worse right to every single thing where if i don't say it out loud doesn't exist it's not true and i feel like that's the work on my life right is like end your irs it's so important to talk about things and share them in whatever way that is whatever that looks like for you i mean yeah now so agree 'em so you get to a point where you eventually end up in a while you know you're there for three years right studying poetry jack three years and and then i was a scholar finished junior year you know took a air quotes semester off but that wasn't to be sort of like the finishing in while you and going out into the world is a poet slash schreider was not the death of my fantasy yeah then i get an honorary degree from in while you the weirdest fantasy but like it's got one right out of the question i have a boring it really rich coming back to new york and then i go back either way both what listen about poetry that tree i still love it i still poetry is my religion that sounds so corny lenny kravitz augurs but 'em i don't know i i you know what am i favor poets in the world is naomi she had nine and she's a dear friend of mine and the way that she looks like the world is like what this childlike wonder and there's something about poetry that makes me feel that 'em like i'm rediscovering something or it makes me feel alive in a way that maybe music as well but there's just something about poetry it makes my heart beat faster and i absolutely love it it's my first love of it makes me excited limit was poetry something that you sort of escaped into when you were younger no i i wrote all the time and i always root stories and i always thought i'm going to be a short story writer a monday why you and there was this professor there named tim tomlinson and he was actually at the rating last night was really moving in he introduced me to a poet named on emma seaney and i wrote my first problem an i fell in love and i read some of her stuff and i thought oh this is what pong candy no idea it was it was narrative it was like pose it wow home could be anything so i just started finding poetry everywhere and in new york it's so easy 'em restarted funny and people's faces i started going meetings and just being inspired in being able to i mean of course every home about my father my book is it took my father's never going away but it was definitely not something i never until i was eighteen and i always thought home had a rough time and you know this chilly notions i discovered a whole new world yeah so what ends up taking you from that then backout i stopped writing i dropped out of school essentially even though it was an accident and i thought it was gonna be a semester i started waiting tables and 'em every once in a while i wrote a palm but i just i wasn't doing anything creative i wasn't making art i was i felt like i was dead inside an i see one more little more than ten years ago i started writing blogs and then essays personal essays and i started to find my com and find and kind of put them in and i realized that i could create a hybrid of the to show i mean even as i think on my book i don't dare say i'm a poet i don't i don't really read poetry anymore but i i feel like my book is is poetic in a way it you're right musically you're right lyrically thing it's like the biggest compliment so i decided hey i could do whatever i want and lady oaken a really really taught me you could do whatever you want and so i just kind of sort of mixing poetry with pros and i'm sticking to it but me while you're doing this now so you end up back out in california at a restaurant which it's supposed to be a short term gig oh yeah i know where they're almost fourteen years the same place the newsroom kaffir which was we end all be all right a time in hollywood west hollywood so you're kind of whatever writing you're doing you're kind of doing on the side of barely when when home a year maybe just you know that stay up all night on my team guy mac and 'em but yeah so as you're you're at the rest of offer for the better part of fourteen years 'em exploring acting 'em that whole industry which is interesting well let me let me clarify reacting what i mean by that is i waited for someone to discover me spoiler alert it did not happen i mean i you know i took smacked in cautious but i wasn't wasn't by no means i like hitting the pavement you know pursuing a career i really i waited around just someone come find me come see me never happened mhm i mean it's so interesting also says so you you chose a job which is very social very forward in a loud environment meanwhile your hearing you're you're struggling with their hearing more and more every year and seems like also really succeeding in that particular career how did you flourish environments great question well that's where i learned how to read lips so well and also so i have a certain personality that my friend jokes last night she said she met me in two days later i invited in my wedding and she said well that's jim passed a law but as you know very well i don't know i don't know how to describe it but just like sweat sweat down just and i realize now it was like reader let when you're a customer but i was friendly with everyone intimate an eye because of these crew sticks and it was so bad i always attributed it to oh it's just really loud in here but when i got so good at leading that's so good and that's ups and i had a getting close and it which is why one of the places i really learned how to begin the listen 'cause i worked so hard end my hearing loss so it's nowhere near as bad as it is now and nowhere near as bad yeah i wonder if at all so i mean was that 'cause i know you sort of describe told buddy listening 'em when you're especially especially when you're job depends upon you know like understanding and hearing in in at at at a fast pace noisy kinetic setting developing the skill of both rigging lips but also really just understanding what's happening with somebody's his body one of the expression where the true needs you feel like the restaurant was a really powerful laboratory for that whole suite of things yes and i got the chills again yes and in fact i feel like i'm having on these piff unease sitting here and you're beautiful apartment because i never quite realize that before but yeah 'em and also i could never do it again now not because not because of ego or anything but because of my hearing is just way too bad now it's it's the reason my workshops works so well is because i'm in control it's my room so i come i walk over and i i sit down and you're yoga mat practically on your lap and i could get in your face and it's so when i'm not when it's not my room or whatever it may be i don't i usually just suffer in silence they can't hear an end with the waiting tables it just wouldn't be able to my hearing just too bad not would not be able to get every order and get upset and frustrated and customers would and but yeah that place and looking back now it was a gift and it taught me almost everything i know that i mean in addition to that it's almost like being being in the restaurant world and it teaches you so much about human interaction social dynamics what do you think there'll be an asshole comes out every person who has ever waited tables or bust in the history of rest all so what happened is that moves you added this day and also i guess 'em are you 'cause you're still at that point you're still living in struggling with i don't know if the word is struggling with but you're living with a certain amount of persistent depression and anxiety layered on top of everything else that's going on yeah i still a anorexia at that point well it is yes but it wasn't a skinny like so i gained a bunch of weight and i never looked like i did before him and still abusing myself and radio i would you know starting myself all day and then meet in the middle of the night and disordered you know but it wasn't like a you know it just changed the change the way it looks exercising looking for our it was over to us but when you said the thing about it really moved me about about you're tonight us and kind of like if i didn't say it out loud it didn't exist i would mind depression anxiety i just first of all i thought how i feel this is what i deserve some of that person and going all the way back to eight years old oh yeah i still struggle with that the it's my international most days i don't listen nope nope you're not gonna be the boss of me but i thought it was only deserved also i thought if i don't if i don't if i ignore it'll go away all these men and it wasn't until i finally i went on antidepressants i can't remember maybe i was thirty four and one great wishing my life i done it sooner it wasn't like a magic pill that made me feel happy but all of a sudden only way i haven't been able to describe it appeals astute is i wasn't a well or pet and someone threw down a rope and i start to climb out and i saw tiny bit of light and then i just kept going to it it it was hope i guess but i didn't is the first time i thought i could possibly get out of the restaurant i never thought i would die they're really just like well this is it for me what changed in you that made you say yes to china real i'm guessing that had been presented you along the way earlier it had but i i went to a therapist who was not very good at all and i went in the very first session he goes you're depressed i was like no shit right and he said you need antidepressants and i'm offended i thought everyone just on medicaid everyone and i am and i left and i called a bunch of my friends and i barely got the words out of my mouth and they were like well of course you do we've always thought that and we should prize with us in the no end in some of the reasons i had for not going on medication worst are you ready who's afraid gain weight so so silly and so i i thought all right well i took a poll of my friends and everyone across the board banking please listen to this man please so i thought okay i'll try it for like a week or two in about two weeks in i felt the front end maybe i will do a yoga teacher training it wasn't because then when it'd be a yoga teacher i just wanted a way out of the restaurant until that happens from the time you were eight until then did you have the sense that it was possible to feel different no no i did not think i it was possible i did not think i deserve that if this is the way i would always say this is my baseline one of my favorite quotes when i've heard wayne dyer who i love say was i believe it's mark twain it's not what you don't know it gets you in trouble is what you think you know if a short adjusting so i knew for sure and so once you start to climb out once the rope is dropped game over the reds this seems like so many shifts up start happened so quickly from the mullahs report any debt and that's why i forever i'm so grateful for the antidepressants i do not think they saved my life i saved my life but they allowed me to take that first step you know what i mean that's kinda get out of bed metaphorically and literally but yes yes one thing led to another you'll goes away in my husband who had actually met ten years prior my mom had tried to success up and i was not interested in ten years later he came in the restaurant and i recognized some weird no you and we went out and i just timing and i knew that night i would marry him which sounds like the cornea thing in the world it's the truest thing in the world and my husband actually there's all these things came into place at once so he wasn't my husband yet but he just gave me this freedom in this shifty in the world that i was able to like fly and i never had that before i never felt safe before in for me that's the biggest thing that feeling of like it's gonna be okay oh feeling safe you gave that to me i'm yours from life it's so interesting right because of that same experience of safety it it seems like that has become a central part of what you have then committed herself to cultivating for others now i mean are you sure you're right in the audience last night because somebody asked me actually lara donnelly who was i was in conversation when she asked me what what did you want i forget how shorted about maybe it was what did you want someone to feel or after radio book and i said that i i wanted them to have the feeling of like it's gonna be okay and that's who wanna be in the world that i got you a feeling of safety and it's exactly why you pick up on that is because there's nothing more important to me and so 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one inch created that other people while you were experimenting well yeah i feel like you weren't there yet but you know some still said no i still wanna actually season and that's why my books called on being human the absolutely that's why i'm like clear don't call me grew hey i'm just figuring it out to let's talk about it it's really the truth telling but absolutely in in there's another question that she asks us men about when i really started to wake up and it's part of the subtitle my book and a lot of it was was when i started you know getting deep into these workshops because i realized i wanna walk the talk i wanna be a congress person you know these people come and be struggling with heating themselves were starving them jobs or whatever this can't be pulling that shit doesn't mean i'm i'm perfect and i don't have bad days sometimes but i really want to be who i say i am i am figuring it out as i go along and i'm really open about that and i think we are you know i mean do you haven't figured out a i have not met the person yet who says they do who i trust exactly i mean sort of feeling a little bit of of the the gap here you start to practice yoga you eventually that becomes a big part of your life you know every game urbicide i'm trained mom and start it seems like kind of unwittingly actually teaching in one of the writer i mean it who's doing yoga other time all the time all the time all the time and my friends all said you should become a yoga teacher why don't you do that instead of waiting tables and i i would like i'd rather you you poke mimi ice no but then i took the mets and all of a sudden a lightbulb went up to a training you never know and i did it and i still didn't wanna be a yoga teacher but my a leather shabby jewish mother figured out how to make a website built me a website and somehow people started finding me on it and i taught one class and then i taught another and i discovered i'm really good at and lo and behold there was a way out of the restaurant the end and pretty soon after that like as she found herself in a retreat said oh yeah and then i sort of leading retreats and workshops and it didn't start is what it is now start it is you know yoga and then i started getting more confident 'cause i never want to be a yoga teacher that wasn't it wasn't accident and i start just combined all the things the writing and then the people skills in the restaurant and the the way i learned a listing putting it all together and making this weird wacky workshop thing but i do in it's kind of work working hell like what is that look like like i'd say a somehow i i came to philly visiting home and i said it when i went to take a yoga class there and they said it like the coming teacher worshipped here and they said okay anna emit people were showing up and then word of mouth started spreading and then i started writing more personal essays and at the bottom i'd have like a little tagline like shoe next week in new york york i had arranged for workshop newark and they started coming from my writing and then more people started coming and i started getting more bold with what i was doing which meant less yoga because i didn't know how to get people people in the room especially in a yoga studio and then tricks yeah so there's a little but nowadays when you come to my workshop i say how many how many who have never done yoga most of the people raise their hand it's not even it's not yoga people anymore but 'em yeah it's hard work and i started to see people opening up people who'd never share their stories people who kept coming back telling their friends following me around the world you know yeah i mean it's interesting to silom we have some kind of weird overlaps as she audio the city until yoga and the city for seven years really and when i left you're the ceo is still there so the studio more than a decade ago now a lot of people were really surprised and to this day occasionally people less like does it do you miss teaching yoga and in a weird way my answer is i don't feel like ever stopped don't teach awesome anymore you keep saying things that make my arm it seems like the same thing for you it's like show like maybe it's not the much of the matched up but fundamentally the richer part of the tradition has always been you know if you look at it when past us on the one that made you know and the physical practices were always ready they were to prepare you for the deeper personally corey but it's all part of the same thing that's exactly how i feel i wrote that introduction of the show although it's not and there is some us and i sometimes i never know depends who's in the room you all the all the things but absolutely i mean sitting here now being you know deeply connected to you that yoga me it's my friend one of my best friend is in a band called snow patrol and watching them on stage oh that's yoga you when you're watching someone who is so connected to what they're doing is doing what they were born to do so i absolutely think you're right i think that's such a brilliant answer yeah i mean i remember seeing bruce springsteen concert and late safeties he played for hours and the whole time i'm like he's doing yoga i literally he was he was there is no separation between the ban them using the crowd it was just hyper presents an expression like in real time at all like oh that's it i i love that you say that in an i've also gotten more confident in being with that so i don't call retreats yoga retreat some people do i'm going only yoga retreat italy which and passionate but i never say that i ever knowing it is but i've gotten more confident and being like this is the yoga this bearing witness just not looking away this paying attention the skating quiet this is the yoga and whether we do some down dogs are not that you mentioned also that a part of the reason we the people were finding you was through you're writing some point you step back into more publicly say okay so this is a part of me to yes so when i started teaching yoga i became a slur i never did this with acting or anything but all of a sudden i said to myself this is it sink or swim maybe so maybe it's a business card i started dropping off with checks at the table i mean how how it gets hired got a lot of clients that way though but i i and i start teaching publicly and i realized i could use facebook there's a tool it says you know back when facebook was so popular and i started posting on facebook and i thought when i released first out of blogging wasn't even it was really a thought is a way to get people coming in my classes and then people started like in my blogs and i thought i think particularly enjoy writing in this this oh i don't know i i was reading in a way that i thought people would like or share and then i thought what if i tell the truth what if i just right how i wanna write like i did when i wrote poetry rather than ten ways to be happy or write an eye test and i just started to put myself out there little and then a little more and then a little more yeah what did it feel like when do you recall the first time that you sort of said okay i'm gonna drop the list a goal what i think is gonna be poplar approach and just share what genuinely in me in my words not just you're experienced not fisher thoughts but you're voice like your distinct writing voice like when you put that out there and you hit publish on the very first time around on my mouth right like memorize well bernie brown closet of owner ability hangover now back then i hadn't heard her say that yet so when i heard when i say that oh i mean there's no more apt description to what i felt back then oh i felt so expose and back then let's cut ten years ago you know and i was teaching yoga and in talking about depression this now it's different nobody was doing that the end though is like any cars and i drank you know and i struggle go with this and people were like you just a human 'em but it was exciting and terrifying and i thought oh i could possibly jeopardize my job up because i'm about you good person you know but it didn't quite the opposite of terrifying yeah unexciting what was it like when you realize people love that and what a more it's a good question i think what was it like it's sometimes it's dangerous because it's easy to get addicted to that feeling you know and i do i have to be careful with that so in the beginning you know that served something i kept me going but now i try not to like my what they're responding to what they're not doesn't matter you know it was really exciting because i thought and again i say this in the book but i thought oh wow oh i just be myself this is amazing last night in the in the cab after my friend tournament again he's known me since i was twenty twentyone he said amazing chinese this career just out of an annuity is gonna say goes just being yourself and we all can do that no i'm not seeing everyone go out and do what i'm doing do what you're doing but like there is no other jonathan there's no other jennifer and i just started sharing who i was and people responded so then i thought well you share who you are and i get to see that's fallen lovable it was the biggest revelation of my life all the things and i had spent my whole life hiding i stopped dining and it changed everything everything and now that's what you wanna create for others yes yeah there's a phrase that own views that she is in the early part of your book beauty hunting tell me more about this i mean i just hide it just now he's telling you downstairs getting water at the deli the demand that was bringing me up those two men i think maybe it was the father and he looked at me goes you're going all the right things are all the good things things he said i said i said i'm doing some of them but like it's shaking out open arising seeking out the beauty right now not in your whole life not like oh you know it was when my son was no right now the five most beautiful things on the way on the walk over here and there were hundreds more but it is a tool i found caused me to pay attention to get out of my own had to to look for beauty instead of things to be offended by stressed out by or pissed off about and sometimes it's hard when you're in pain of grief or the political environment right now but it's always there you know opening bringing a i is finding and and to me it's it's poetry pay attention find the beauty in you know some days it's easier just means you gotta dig for it but i can you know i'm have really trained myself to to just find it all the time i get so tickled by things and people and it's one of the reasons i love elizabeth gilbert so much if i look at her and that's how i feel she lives her life she's a beauty hunter yeah that have to be with you there right i you know with people with just nature whatever it is beautiful glass subpoenaing the law you jeez in france italy seriously it's like oh wow look at this and so in every a workshop at the retreat you know in france there were two a day right before we walk out of the room i give him a sticky note i write down the by most beautiful things from this morning until now and then we should i put him all over the wall so by the time with the treat the walls are covered with beautiful things really it really make it makes you pay attention yeah i mean it's interesting is sort of like a a play on the classic gratitude journal you like what you people have told at the end of the day right down the three things you're grateful for but it was born of something yeah it was 'em there frankel i think wayne dyer again but saying how the franco when he was in a concentration camp they would give them names disgusting dirty bowls of water with a dead fish i didn't end viktor frankl said and this could be mess but it changed my life he said i found the beauty in the dead fish had z only way i survived and i saw and i saw and i thought well i'm an asshole i mean wow i gotta start looking for my fish like all the time every day every second of every day and so that's really where it came from i certainly did not invent looking for beauty but i did buy you are out along with a couple of others my there yeah i mean it's interesting because it's a win as zoom lens out and i sort of look at the body of work that you've built over the last decade or so and the impact that you're having people's lies by simply showing up and being you and inviting other people show up and be them on the on the one hand it's revolutionary on the other hand it's completely not isn't it amazing you know it's it's almost like an and i don't i would imagine that you're not in love with with somebody saying where you're giving people permission to do this kind of role you know but it's creating just see opportunity imitations to so yeah and i had some process i understand what they mean when they say that but yeah that's again that's the good thing that people do you know where there's so much gene in the world and so when when someone one talk openly about hey you know what i struggle with depression and i still do or mental illness or talking about my invisible disability you know and and they go oh maybe i could talk about that without shame i love that so however they want a phrase it like well you're giving me permission i just love the fact that there's a dialogue being created and that where now holding so much in the i know you work so deeply with so many people right now i'm curious and the word shame keeps coming up in the conversation of the word wet shame shame is that some i would imagine you see a lot of patterns that become common sources of profound pain as you work with so many people shame one of the big ones that you see probably the biggest mhm in the biggest thing i see across the board all ages is the core belief of i'm not enough and so many of us are so concerned with what they think right i think so much of the shame comes from that and so you know especially with the way i share things and by all means there's much i did not share although one might not believe that but i decided to let go of it up there shame surrounding level they think you know also i won't go seeking out bad reviews or you know people that are gonna cause there's always gonna be someone to say something i think again grenade brown and again it could be like completely misquoting it but the idea is she says you know what would she say shame is guild is i did something bad in shame is i am that something like that cyber knife i got it wrong but 'em my whole life i thought i'm a bad person right and so dismantling shame from is is at the top of the list for everything i do and i recognize it because it's like looking at amir because i carry that in my body for so long and still battle with sometimes that i i can see and others and it just doesn't serve any purpose in your life 'em what happened just send you back the water the triggers it's rated question when i'm really tired or stressed out i go to like an old snaps in the brain and so go to that or i go i'm fat or you know body stuff and i and i am able i have tools not most days or call a friend i really have a good people a but this is why to me self care is so important 'em when i feel like a messed up with my son or done something wrong when something happens in life whatever it is i struggle because of the thing that happened my father and it was my fault with thinking everything's my fault and so that brings on that feeling of shame i did it again it's my fault i messed up you know all these bullshit stories and legacy the side of that is for ingrained is not universal for everyone but one of the things that really pull you out of that quickly or as quickly as possible smells like one of them is having really good people yeah so when you're feeling but also as i wonder if a a big part of the struggle for many people is actually do you wear nist and know that you're either heading into that space or that you're there yet but again that's why that's why they other people come in i say like you know find those people that will gently you shake her shoulders lovingly and not let you carrier bullshit story anymore you know lovingly that's the key word is not just any schmo in the street you know but like lovingly like hey that's just not true moving my body i am the queen of a watching netflix on able to go but it really whether it's walking i i it's it's you know exercise although i abused it really helps me with depression anxiety in in feeling rotten about myself 'em getting quiet and creating a new mindset to among try and so you know my my most common ones i'm safe i'm here i'm in my buddy i'm enough and really working on a recognizing like okay that's that's a bullshit story again how do you sometimes it's hard to recognize when it's bullshit story so i hope that we'll find people whether it's in my life on line one person someone to remind you who you really are and exercise i do in my workshop shop called on the voice of someone who loves you have you write a letter in the voice of someone who loves you and i and the prompt you know the start it off with if you could see what i see you know sometimes i'll do that in the morning all right you know you carry that with you when you zoom lens out 'em you got this beautiful new book you're running retreats and workshops in speaking in facilitating still attaining in working with clients i'm around the world all around this idea of being more human becoming more human being human right that's the name of your saying 'em when you look at this broad body of work when you look at all energy that you're putting into it right now do you have sort of a greater intention for all of it mhm when i get to the end of my life and ask one final what have i done the man to be i've done enough i don't know what that looks like a so right now it looks like the book it looks like my website it looks like my son sitting here with you sharing i just went that they keep expanding whatever that looks like i mean when i would love to do is keep doing what i'm doing like the retreats but on a smaller scale so that i don't hustle so much and that's my whole livelihood i wanna do my public speaking it's reach greater amounts of people but still be able to do the work i do and do more work for free so pay more maybe public speaking and be able to give give back more people that can't but ultimately i have no idea what it's gonna look like i just know that i i i want is at the end of every day i wanna say i've done love i've done love so that's why i can't say what my workshops there's gonna be a lot of yoga and this weiner what it's gonna be like all i know is my intention is to do love so that feels like good place for us to come full circle to in the wonder of but you just offer is also the answer to the question i always ask everyone at the end which is if i offer up the phrase deliver good life what comes up that you know doing of mary oliver is poelman death comes the last line she says i don't wanna end up simply having visited this world and so it's become my life's work to not just be a visitor to release fully be here living a good life is yeah listening telling the truth not looking away beauty hunting all that means is doing love you it's a verb thank you think you know mountain boom boom boom boom thank you so much for listening and thanks also to our fantastic sponsors who help make this show possible you can check them out in the links we have included intraday show notes and while you're at it if you've ever ask yourself what should i do with my life we have created a release cool online assessment that will help you discover the source code for for the work that you're here to do you can find it at spark type dot com that's s p a r k e t y p dot com for just click the link in the show notes and of 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Ep. 888 - Impeach Or Go Home

The Ben Shapiro Show

57:23 min | 1 year ago

Ep. 888 - Impeach Or Go Home

"Democrats vote to establish impeachment ground rules we may have learned the identity of the original was a Weller Nancy the Ben Shapiro show is sponsored by Express VPN protect your online privacy today Republicans have been saying for a while that all this was illegitimate because Democrats had not held an official vote. You're saying a thing it's the equivalent of Michael Scott declaring bankruptcy in the office by standing in the middle of the office behind closed doors so how are we supposed to take seriously well the Democrats only the Democrats said that within a month like Halloween they were already going to be voting unimpeachable why interviews behind closed doors vote for impeachment done and then the Senate presumably acquit the president theriault to at least damage president trump unless we straight about this in order for Republicans in the Senate to on his intent level was he intending to militarize a foreign government by using only sixteen investigation not as part of Broader Anti Ukrainian agenda. As part of a I transcript didn't clear that up none of the testimony so far has cleared that up I've been saying this for weeks now the president's intense let's say it's a skittish thing intends to move around a lot president time I think that this whole phone call with Ukrainians his whole Ukrainian policy here is basically Giuliani was doing yes the president should have should have not taken Guiliani so seriously Giuliani was one every single topic every topic the president of the United States has sort of this file oh Chinese hoax spend too much money it's just a bunch of ideas that come in response to a stimulus he's thinking this thing I thought right this has been my entire contention now does that mean he did something smart imaging material on trump that now they're going to move forward with the formal impeachment inquiry and call the Republican business hiring can be pretty challenging here at the daily wire we hire on regular basis we're constantly trying cruel dot com to make our business better your daily wire and it's not just not just daily wire depends on candidates finding you it finds them for you it's technology identifies people with the right experience results like that it's no wonder that four out of five employers who post on Ziprecruiter get a quality candidate dot com slash da l. y. w. Ira Ziprecruiter dot com slash daily Wire Ziprecruiter who Democrats voted against only one Republican voted in favour that'd be just in a Maggio's recently registered setting a blueprint for the fourth presidential impeachment investigation in American history the two thirty two voted yes on the measure though the move according to the Wall Street Journal will make the investigation more public including more power to Republicans including the right to call their own witnesses. Those subjects are those requests are can publicans were acting outraged at the fact that the Democrats are going to veto wants this moves into the Judiciary Committee of becomes incredibly public so the basic democratic plan is have schiff an actual pup tents outside the Green Room at CNN he just spends his days over there like you'll bring a thermos this thing yes it will still be behind closed doors they have the author or the authority to release transcript as well just elect a president and go home she moved away gop complained saying these rules are fairer than anything circa twenty sixteen Republicans have said that this this investigation breath trying to suggest that all of these swing Democrats are in serious trouble Democrats are enough evidence to go after trump and impeach him now which is probably why the Democrats are looking for the televised the Democrats are saying well how'd you like you spilled it all out in public this is a demonstration of eighty hearings cross examine witnesses and make closing presentations Republicans in the really were not information gathering stage now here's the problem once you say the open the impeachment inquiry were to do all of that wants to officially open the impeachment inquiry then it's pretty obvious what you're talking waited here so the question becomes whether this is really still a sham process at that point it becomes public at that point trump can have a representative question witnesses but if you're representatives as it turns out White House spokeswoman Stephanie Grisham slammed Democrats after the vote there can be some open questions that travel should be asked about from behavior with Ukraine he was elected and they continued to impeach trump and so when they stand there and say Word The Wall Street Journal that the House has already conducted Republicans and Democrats on the three committees of jurisdiction look into and Democrats well not impeachment increase under GOP leadership but the Senate and House intelligence say that would make sense and once you've declared this about impeachment at that point we all know what this whole thing is at that point scent of Your Waking Life Right you're at work and you're looking at a computer or you're on your phone scrolling through the news all the eleven hours every day whether you're watching Netflix whether you're an Amazon prime or whether watching this both nonprescription an prescription really really cool looking Felix Greg glasses filter ninety headed into the Lens as opposed to one of the coatings that tends to scratch your chip overtime like engineered steel don't go another day booking screens without the help of some field grays can really gray glasses dot com slash men so republicans are really sure sure so back in March House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said that you'd and Pelosi claimed historically the not for impeachment this all back in March right so we're not talking about well weird because she doesn't care anymore very very where by the way back in nineteen ninety is very serious I think it has dramatic impact on the confidence frivolous and how we go forward and punishing president who's politics we don't approve of well buttocks cheeks th this crocodile tears obviously she's nobody nobody the every major Democratic presidential candidate has said they want trump impeached so nobody comes to Congress nobody comes to Congress to impeach the president of the United States no one she can't Ed Nancy Pelosi and then Adam Schiff does the same routine Adam Schiff who spent his entire waking life now you got Adam Schiff also doing me more in sadness than anger routine I'm Adam twenty four hours a day even in his dreams is thinking about how he gets rid of trump and then stands on on this road and proceed with the impeachment inquiry but neither do we shrink again I don't think that most Americans truly believe that the Democrats are doing this in good faith so out of hand that's not the job of the American people the American people should keep their minds open to new information and we want to wait and see all the information the should be the new slogan of the show right you've got Washington Post here let's wait for the information all I'm saying is that if you actually believe the Democrats are not partisan asper school of acting because they're just bad eric swallow who spends love Eric Swallow who constantly talk about getting rid of trump says this is a very solemn day it so you know today was a solemn day it's one that none of us you know really look forward to but you're right them to get serious about what is alleged he so happy I mean he can barely hold back the smiles hear about the constitution of the United States as we'll see in a little while the Democrats are not particularly awesomely defending Katie Hill who is shipping nearly every member of her congressional staff male and investigation and had to resign because she was under ethics investigation and calling it sexist that she had resigned because she was under defending yourself it's not like the movies roughly eighty percents shots fired in self-defence will miss their targets concrete self-defense place self-defence plan in place and number two you have to practice number three industry-leading self defence education training and legal protection the thousands of hours of the second amendment you should own a gun but hurry this offer ends Thursday October thirty first text win seven to to to Asia during the anyway the do an awful lot of great stuff go check them out right in despising corruption it's not so true when it's Katie Hill so Katie Hill this this Democrats on her way out the door she ripped shameless Republicans and gutter operators here. You're all be that no you won't you're done sorry not nobody's nobody's looking forward to electing you of that I'm very much amused by the idea that Katie Hill is being targeted because she is because she's a woman would not be forced to step down do you really believe that or with this thing have been so much worse there'd be the same thing that with the same people then it would be look at this piece of crap this piece of crap passed the House is controlled by Democrats right now if you wished to stick around you could you could try your luck used by shameless operatives for the dirtiest Gutter Politics that I've ever seen and eighteen months of millions okay well I don't know when those photos were taken according to Meteo reports some of that is her problem also her problem don't f you're staffers okay like much worse for you hey but Nancy Pelosi was out there defending Katie Hill don't at the same time then Nancy Pelosi the same Nancy Pelosi is like more in sadness than an it's not partisan resign is her decision to resign it is she's an absolutely in the Congress for the work that she does here she made her decision timing she stepped down I wish you would stick around sure do Nancy sure you had nothing to do with you going to Katie really so when I say that I have trust issues with the Democrats again when there's an ethics investigation into a sitting congresswoman who was apparently as an trump imagine president trump were having an affair I know this is where with one of his male staffers and one of his female I know one of the things you WanNa make sure that your kids never see are the actual pictures of Katie Hill that something that you don't sure that your kids are not seeing stuff they really shouldn't being guarding the innocence of your kids you should be using circle circle helps I'm with circle home plus and the circle APP parents can filter what content is allowed set limits for screen time Knbr has a profile is fully customizable to their needs age and maturity which is great you know your three year olds treating the Internet whereas get thirty bucks off of a circle home plus when you visit meet circle dot com slash Ben and enter dollars I have young kids I'm deeply concerned about what their life is going to be like as they deal with the online world I am definitely okay well as I say the media reaction to Katie Hill let's just say it's a little oh the media morning and it's because she's victim she's a she's a victim jozy now right she is a victim of people who are doing that to her also she's involved and morning Katie Hill Katie Hill again imagine she remained for half a second not even Republican back in two thousand seventeen entire tweet list of men who are sexual who the the people over the Washington free beacon put together the supercup of the medium morning it's unfortunate because she was a rising star first term representative considered a rising star she acacia such an up and rising great harsh really was left her district from she rations quite unfortunate I don't feel it was the right move I feel that there is is one here it's over simplify okay so pretty pretty amazing the bad guys one here let's just say that they do not have tons of credibility when it comes to we are the corruption that was that was pushed out there yesterday and the media jumps all over it this was testimony testimony the Democrats were the media were because they were suggesting that he was deeply worried about phone call but in that the whole thing in that the whole thing like trump does stuff that's uncomfortable not difficult we all know this this'll baked into the cake okay no surprises here the question is did he do something is that after the call betweens Alinsky and place Morrison directed that the transcript of it be put on a secret the ellipses in the transcript of the call revealed the part where trump offers to sign a personal checks from matic reading okay the latest news that president trump is so confident in the perfect phone call bad idea bad ideas Mr press he wasn't a dramatic conversation with Vladimir's Alinsky was good call that he might read it aloud to Americans so they can see they will read the transcript of the call because people have to hear it when you read it it's a straight call how's that you wanted to create campaigns Democrats I can't think of a much better way to do that like what in the world this is why Republicans shouldn't in Congress and elsewhere do like just take take take a break take valium and think to yourself I have a three year old he always wants to eat sweets I can give them sweets he's going to be fat and he'll diabetes God somebody steps in with him and says no don't do that because again the Democrats have to prove something but Democrats actually have to prove this stuff he so as I say the media and only one of those things actually helps Democrats the others do maybe because every single time from says anything it gets leaked to the media so he's been putting it on legal behavior he said that the president did not engage any legal behavior and the transcript is complete Taylor official Morrison confirmed testimony Lincoln trump to quid pro quo. Listen the time you know it's a quid pro quo Joe Biden saying explicitly he was going to link foreign aid to Ukraine to them cleaning bribery or or attempt to influence the election from outside or anything like that now one second I you're going to have to go over daily wire dot com subscribe nine nine hundred a month subscription to daily wire Dell's shows and more straight from the APP all access subscribers get our new exclusive discussion features please go check that out right now for nine bucks a year obviously as you know you get the greatest and Um sperry yesterday a real clear investigations talking about who this whistle blower is according to sure Democrat held over from the Obama White House he previously worked VP Joe Biden he previously worked has since been returned to CIO headquarters in Langley Virginia according to a former NFC official according to Pulse Berry you have a lot of trust issues with this particular impeachment inquiry the whistle blower who apparently created the thing it's an area of Adam Schiff leading up impeachment inquiry that does not have proper evidence and so she said there was a vast right wing conspiracy the line on the right is going to be that this was a democratic looking for an excuse to impeach Liz Cheney who is the third ranking member of the House security there is no one who has done that the way that Nancy Pelosi Kevin McCarthy who is the House Minority leader he said something very similar he said look this is obviously it's about Ukraine thing but what McCarthy says True Democrats are trying to impeach the president all that has offered impeachment three different times this impeachment is not the next election the media are cheering wildly as twitter decided they're going to ban political ads you see trump actual add what they want is for you not to see that ad they don't want it to pop up in your alrighty ran one ad they ran ads during the world series the ad is actually during jobs cutting illegal immigration in half obliterating isis their stopping donald trump. He's no mister nice guy but sometimes it takes a donald trump to Kim but you need him right you don't like him but you need them on that wall and that is trump's best pitch yeah on his record keyed win right to the ad campaign is going to be that so what you're going to see is an is their critique of the ad if you can't directly access the ad by going onto facebook or twitter and they said they're going to do this because they can't they don't have the resources to fact check the ads well they don't have the resources Republican campaigns to reach you because they know full well that democratic campaigns will reach you through the editorial and directly address the American people he does it all the time that's what his twitter account is really good for for him he's constantly and that's why they're attacking Mark Zuckerberg right there is what you're seeing over the New York Times every single day they're trying to browbeat unplanned. Parenthood wants to run an ad why is it politician should not be able to run an ad but planned parenthood should be able to run the yesterday Kara Swisher who's just a god awful columnist at the New York Times she suggested that much of a you know how much of the gross revenue facebook is like direct political ads from campaigns. It's a minute behavior I promise you that facebook is not making five billion dollars from political advertising dumbest column of the day along these lines comes courtesy of Aaron Sorkin who frankly sounds like he's back you protested that the film was inaccurate and that Hollywood didn't understand that some people build things just for the sake of building them a studio lawyers with one client and one goal don't get sued by Mark Zuckerberg okay so first of all a particular standard you have to be with malice a malicious attempt on your public accusation that the movie was alive it was hard not to feel the irony while I was reading excerpts from your recent speech I had the First Amendment more important it's a bedrock of our democracy and it needs to be kept strong but this can't and our lives and our children's lies don't say Larry Flint's not even Larry Flint would say Larry Flint News source or you could decide to make facebook reliable source of public information the tagline right now under website is an ad claiming that Joe Biden gave Ukrainian attorney general a billion dollars not to investigate the AD is a little bit more oblique than that to be fair to the ad but with that said that is the goal it's Sorkin the this columns in absurdity he says the movie we arranged a private screening of an early cut your chief operating officer Sheryl Sandberg Miss Stood it says how can we do this to tens of millions of kids are we really going to run an ad that claims Kamla old is he even talking about what what in the actual hell on misinformation is good information it is not a shutdown from people who supposedly know better by the actual quote from the American President in which in which the advanced citizenship you got to want it bad because it's GONNA put up a fight it's GonNa say you want free speech lets you acknowledge lag the symbol also has to be one of its citizens exercising his right to burn that flag in protest show shut down the the the flow of information that is the goal to shut down the flow of information

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Ep. 133 - Trump is going to be impeached

The Breakdown with Shaun King

26:05 min | 1 year ago

Ep. 133 - Trump is going to be impeached

"If you've ever listened to the breakdown you've heard me say that it's hard to understand a moment in history when you're in it. I don't think a better moment illustrates that point and the moment we are in right. Now forget what you think about him. Forget how tired tired you are of him. We're in a moment a historic moment where the president of the United States is currently in the process of being impeached. I think yesterday may have very well been the lowest moment of Donald Trump presidency and the smartest most host profound moment for Democrats in the impeachment process. Have something I'm GonNa play for you unpack and explain where we are and where we're going. This is Shaun King. You're listening to the the break down the breakdown of a breakdown camera. There's so much going on in the world not only with both the Democratic primaries for president not only with our campaign to stop the execution of Rodney read there continues to be so much injustice and so much going on such noise coming at us from every angle that I think this impeachment process. which is the first impeachment impeachment process to happen in the age of social media in some ways? I see it being hyper shared across twitter but almost just not shared at all on instagram and very little on facebook that the younger generation of people all are not watching CNN and MSNBC. I talked to my teenage daughter. Kim Do seventeen senior high school. And she's he's super politically astute and aware and follows current affairs and news and she said dad like you know all students. We're not watching it. We're not we're not into it and it's not that they don't support the impeachment of Donald Trump. They loathe him. But somehow this this process feels deeply disconnected from them and I I think the process also trump has has made so many mistakes and has been under so much scrutiny every single day for those mistakes that this process access kind of blurs in with the past three years it seems like the Muller hearings it seems like the Muller report like it all blends in but what happened. Yesterday I thought was not only a low moment in the presidency of Donald Trump. I I I thought it was a masterful profound day for Democrats. If you're not watching the impeachment hearings there to clips that that I won't play for you and then I'll come back and explain them in just a minute. The first is where a man named Daniel Goldman who is serving as legal counsel for the Democrats in the House. Who I have to say is one of the single most masterful attorneys I've ever seen I mean I mean all I can say is he's brilliant. The guy is practically flawless flawless. In the work that he's doing he probes every witness without seeing pushy. He asked the smartest questions. He frames them in a way. That doesn't allow any wiggle room. The witnesses seem to be completely comfortable with with him and his questions but he's ask East throwing fastballs over and over and over again Just the smartest choice ever to have him in. And if you're not watching instead of all of the witnesses just simply we being questioned by A variety of members of Congress the primary person they are questioned by is a an attorney for the democratic members of the house in an attorney for the Republican members of the house. Who is a bum by? By the way I mean is night and day in terms of the quality and yesterday they had a man named Timothy. th-y Morrison testify. And he was the National Security Council member for the United States. He was the Russian in director for the National Security Council and he was deeply involved In the trump administration with with their policies on Ukraine and as you may know the open not just accusation but the the open evidence is that Donald trump illegally withheld funding. That had already been approved. By by the United States Congress the Democrats and Senate in Congress had already been signed off on and was ready to go foreign aid. For Ukraine trump was withholding that foreign aid and demanding that they not only begin an investigation into to Joe Biden but that the president of Ukraine Alinsky hold a press conference and announce that the investigation instigation was underway in order for him to get the foreign aid that he desperately needed and Daniel Goldman the Democratic Council for for The Democrats in the House and the impeachment process ask Timothy Morrison to explain it and in nineteen eighteen seconds. What you hear is ironclad evidence of what is called a quid pro quo this idea that donald trump said? I will only give you a if you give me and here. We are GONNA play the clip for you. It's a short clip. I think it's the single most essential clip of the day. Let me play Ambassador Sunland Sadie. Tell you that he told Mr Earmark that the Ukrainians would have to have the prosecutor general Make a statement with perspective investigations as a condition of having the lifted. That's it that is you could shut the impeachment hearings down. Functionally Timothy Morrison provided sworn testimony under the threat of perjury and prison that Donald Trump openly communicate it to staff that he was not going to release the aid to Ukraine and to there was a press conference from the president of Ukraine saying they were investigating Joe Biden and the Joe Biden family. That is evidence of of bribery Marie of corruption and of abuse of power and it was a damaging moment I will. We'll try to put this on social media. I have it on my twitter page right now so you can see it. It's a profound problematic moment for the president. The entire day was that and I think at the end of the day. There was a moment from congressman. Espn Adam Schiff. Who is the chair of the intelligence committee overseeing this process? Adam shift is a former prosecutor and Just a couch how I feel about this moment. I'm not a super big fan of Adam. Shift I just WANNA I just WANNA put that out there He's he's not as progressive on many of the issues that I care about deeply deeply particularly around reforming and changing our justice system I have not found him to be a friend of that. Process I don't agree with a lot of his views on On issues of war and peace and the military and even the intelligence community itself. Well he's the chairperson of this entire hearing and at the end of the hearing yesterday which went on maybe for ten hours with multiple witnesses. He gave a closing statement that I was so deeply moved by it was extraordinary. It was masterful it was it. It was a revelation revelation for me of not just his intelligence but his brilliance on this issue and while he is doing this he is looking at the witnesses who are right there before him who gnawed their heads in agreement all throughout throughout this entire closing speech. That Adam Schiff gives I want you to listen to it all because I think in these. It's seven minutes and forty one seconds. I think Adam Schiff not only makes the case for impeachment but has the witnesses nodding in agreement with him. These are former members or members of the trump administration. who now how have testified that what was going on was deeply problematic? Just listen to it listen to it. All it's a historic moment moment and I. I think it rivals. Those twenty seconds with Morrison saying yes. This was a quid pro. Quo It rivals rivals that as the most important moment of the day but it has to be I think one of the highlights of the career Adam Schiff not because it was rousing political speech but I think he rose to the history of the moment checking. I thank the gentleman and thank you both testimony. Today I would highlight a couple of things about what we've heard this afternoon. I Master Volker your written testimony in which you say in hindsight. I now understand that. Others saw the idea of investigating possible corruption involving Ukrainian company Barack Obama as equivalent to investigating former Vice President Biden. I saw them is very different. The former being appropriate and unremarkable the latter being unacceptable. In retrospect you said I should have seen that connection indifferently. And had I done so I would have raised my own objections ambassador. We appreciate Your Willingness S. to amend earlier testimony in light of what you now know and I think you've made it very clear that knowing what you do today that in fact the president sought an investigation of his political rival Vice President Biden. You would not have countenanced. Any effort to encourage the Ukrainians Unions to engage in such conduct. I appreciate also that you were able. To debunk I hope for the last time. The idea that Joe Biden did something wrong when he accords with. US policy sought to replace a corrupt prosecutor. Something that not only the. US State Department wanted not only the European Union wanted and not only the IMF wanted but was the consensus position of the United States national security infrastructure. You didn't get a lot of questions about that today. As other witnesses did because I think you effectively said that was all nonsense. We appreciate your candor about that Marcin. I think what is most remarkable about your testimony is the acknowledgement that immediately. After the vice president met with presence. Alinsky in Warsaw. You witnessed Gordon Sunland meeting with Andre Earmark top advisor to presidents presents Alinsky and then immediately thereafter Sauna told you he had informed the Ukrainians that if they wanted that four hundred million in military aid they were going to have to do those investigations that the president wanted. And you were later informed and this is also significant as you've testified here today that the ambassador song and had a subsequent conversation with President Trump and informed you that it wasn't going to be enough for the Ukrainian Prosecutor General Zero to announce the investigations. The president wanted presidents. Alinsky had to do it himself if he wanted to get that a let alone the meeting in the White House now you've been asked to a pine on the meaning of the term bribery. Although you weren't asked to pine on the meeting of the terms high crimes and misdemeanors but bribery burry for those watching at home is the conditioning of official acts in exchange for something of personal value official. Oh acts we're talking about here. Are White House meeting. The president's Alinsky desperately sought and as you have acknowledged ambassador. Volker was deeply important to this country at war with Russia to show the United States. Had this new president's back that meeting was important important. That meeting is an official act. The military assistance is even more significant because Ukrainians are dying thing every day in their war with Russia and so the withholding a military assistance to get these investigations which you now have acknowledged master. Volcker was wrong for the president to request the idea of withholding that military aid to get these political investigations should be anathema to repugnant. To every American because it means the sacrifice not just of Ukrainian national security but American national so security for the interest of the president personally and politically now my republican colleagues all. They seem to be upset about out with this is not that. The president sought an investigation of his political rival not that he withheld a White House meeting and four hundred million dollars in aid. We all passed on a bipartisan partisan basis to pressure Ukraine to those investigations. Their objection is he got caught. There objection is that someone blew the whistle and they would would like this whistleblower identified and the president wants US whistleblower punished. That's their objection. Not that the president gauged in this conduct but then he got caught their defenses. Well we end up releasing the guess after he got caught. That doesn't make this any less odious. Oh yes Americans may be watching this and asking. Why should the United States care about Ukraine? Why should we care about Ukraine? And this was the import I think of the conversation. The now infamous conversation that Kiev restaurant with Gordon saw on holding the phone away from his head because the president was talking talking so loud. What is the president asking that? Call the day after the now infamous Dolinsky. What is he asking that cell phone call not not whether the rata had passed new anti corruption reform? Now they're gonNA do the investigation meaning into by UH and silence. Answer is they're going to do it. They'll do essentially anything the president wants. But what's more telling is the conversation. I think that Song Song has with the Foreign Service officer homes afterwards in which the President says basically Donald Trump doesn't give a expletive tip about Ukraine. He cares about the big things. and Mr Home says well Ukraine's at war with the Russians. That's kind of a big thing and and silence answer is no doubt he cares about big things that affect his personal interests. This is why Americans should care about this. Americans should care about what happens to our allies. Were dying but Americans should care about their own national security and and their own president and their own constitution and they will need to ask themselves as we will have to ask ourselves in Congress. Are we prepared to accept that. A President I'd States can leverage official acts military assistance White House meetings to get an investigation of a political rival rival. We prepared to say well you know I guess that's just what we should expect it to present the United States. I don't think we want to go there there. I don't think our founding fathers would have wanted us to go there indeed. I think when the founding fathers provided a remedy that remedy being impeachment they had the very concerned that the United States may betray the national security interests of the country for personal interests. They put that remedy in the constitution. Not because they wanted to Willy Nilly overturn elections no because they wanted a powerful anti-corruption eruption mechanism when that corruption came from the highest office in the land marriage earned I'll be right back with today's action steps but I I wanNa tell you about a program called circle. It's the most amazing effective secure way for my family to manage and monitor and limit the internet usage in our house. And here's the thing and I found I got on the Internet on the WIFI system. We have at the house. I found that we have over twenty different devices pulling from the Wi fi at any he given point in time from iphones and androids and laptops and desktops and video game systems and TV boxes. 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I think they are afraid of being attacked by him and listen. He raises money for them he he. He encourages them and people who've curried favor with him They they don't WanNa lose that favor. These people are deeply retied to trump's success and failure and they're going to defend them at all costs because they know that if Donald Trump is impeached and say removed from office that they'll be connected to that for the rest of their lives. They're going to be connected to him no matter what is what they don't fully appreciate but the the real showdown is going to come in the Senate and I have to action steps that I wanNA share with you today and I'm going to be turning a lot of my attention and focus to both of these things in the days and weeks ahead. The first thing that I want you to do is go to how we flip the Senate dot dot com. And if you haven't been there before we've started a an amazing action called flip the Senate and I am supporting it and I want I want your help. I am concerned that I'm concerned on two levels. First that for all of the attention and energy energy that's going into impeachment and all the energy and attention that's going into the Democratic presidential primaries and in the presidential race there is so little attention being given to all of the brave courageous candidates that are running for Senate all over the country that they're not getting the financial support they need. They're not getting the volunteer support they need and we are about to serously seriously. Ramp up our efforts to give them both. And I want you to look at some of the candidates that we've endorsed and we are about to roll out several new endorsements and the days and weeks ahead. I think we'll end up being in twenty different states all over the country. 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Ep 185 | An Unlikely Impeachment

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey

34:39 min | 1 year ago

Ep 185 | An Unlikely Impeachment

"Hey guys welcome to relatable happy Wednesday. Hope everyone has had a great week so far. It is cold where I am. We have gotten like our first real winter. A cold front. I'm not dealing with that. I was in Florida earlier this week and it was beautiful and I wish I could have stayed for a little bit longer but I was just there for a few hours for a speaking speaking engagement. Back home it is cold but as I talked about on instagram. It's also kind of inspired me to decorate for Christmas Smith's earlier this year. I am typically a day after Thanksgiving person like everything needs to have its own season but this year. I don't know if it's too cold weather. It's having a child. I'm just more excited about the holiday season of always liked Christmas. But I don't know I have a little bit more anticipation for it so I've kind of started to put some mm stuff up. That'll happen at after this week. This week has been an is a crazy week for work for travel for all of that after. That's done I'll have a little bit more time to be able to sit back and Relax Inn start enjoying the holiday season with our little baby girl. Okay today we are going to talk a a little bit about impeachment. What is going on there that something that some of you have been asking me about? It's also something I've kind of avoided a little bit because I just I just don't find it quite as important as some of their cultural social political changes that are going on that. I think speak more more to the grand scheme of things than this impeachment query and this entire saga. But it is obviously very important it's been at the forefront of the news recycle for a while now about six weeks or probably probably six or so weeks. Yeah so we're going to get into that today because some of you have no idea what's going wait on it and God bless you. You know you haven't been spending time watching. The news is scrolling through twitter all day and you have better things to do. I fully appreciate an honor that but I am going to try to give you a very basic and pretty short rundown of the things that are going on so at least you have kind of like a cursory understanding of the happenings. Because it's all you're going to be hearing about if you turn on the news probably for at least the next couple few weeks who knows maybe for the next few months. Maybe they'll keep on trying to impeach him until The twenty twenty election. We're also going to talk about the death penalty. This is something a lot of you have asked asked me to cover. I actually have talked about it before. I don't know maybe it was an episode about social justice or Biblical justice. I I'm not sure but a lot of you have asked me to to do an entire episode on as I'm going to try to remember that. This is an episode that I can send people back to when they message me and asked me to talk about the death penalty. We're going to talk about how I personally feel about it. Just my opinion about it. From a biblical perspective there are differences in opinion on that from a biblical perspective. But I'll give you my take on it specifically early in relation to the case of Rodney Reed. He is a man that was found guilty of murdering a young woman named Stacy States in one thousand nine hundred eighty six. We're going to talk about this case case and the and the death penalty in relation to him and in general. Before we get into all of that I want to tell you guys about circle so if you're struggling to make sure that five more minutes with your kids on technology doesn't end up being five more hours you need circle. Circle is is the easiest way to manage your family's online time across all of their connected devices inside and outside your home I with circle home. Plus into the circle. Appearance can filter what content wanted is allowed set limits for screen time and monitor history and usage. That is huge. I know a lot of you with kids. 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If if you miss what I've realized in this happens to me all of the time it's not just people that are outside of the media. I guess I would consider myself somewhat inside the media although it's not you know obviously not your standard journalists or anything like that but what I've noticed whether you're in or outside of the Daily News cycle if you miss this the initial story the initial breaking news and you don't follow every detail every step of the way by the time you look back at something and you read this summary of it in really any major outlet. You're going to be missing a lot of details and you're going to have a lot of questions about things that have happened. That's true of The impeachment query that is true of the Epstein case. And so. I'm going to try my best going to try my best to fill in all of those details in answer at least just your basic basic questions about all of this We know why the Democrats want to impeach trump. They don't like him. They don't want to run against him because even though they don't like him they've probably gained the awareness just a little bit that at least half of the country likes him and I think they also realize that they don't really have a candidate on the democratic site that they're excited about becoming the nominee. They don't really have a candidate that they are absolutely confident. Could beat Donald Trump. That's why they're even talking about Hillary Clinton re entering the race. That is a third presidential run because out of their vast vast array of candidates. They don't have one candidate candidate that they feel like they can put all of their energy and all of support all of their support behind there was a recent fivethirtyeight poll. Five thirty is the blog may nate silver. Everyone follows for probabilities. And things like that when it comes to elections That said the number one. The number one issue for Democratic voters going into twenty twenty is not healthcare immigration nations guns anything like that it is the ability to be Donald Trump. So that is what the Democrats care most about. That has a lot to do with. Why this impeachment thing is going on? Of course that's not what they're saying they're saying they're substance to it in all that you decide that I'll give you my opinion on what you decide that but I want to give you the detail so so at least you know the case. That is that they are attempting to make so all of this revolves around a phone. Call that the president of the United States had with the president of Ukraine July July where the president asked the president of Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden now around the same time the United States withheld about a billion dollars. I believe it was in aid with Ukraine. This was all brought to our attention by a whistle. Blower you've probably heard the term whistleblower about a million times over the past few weeks other released. Transcript of the call. Does it show direct quid pro quo but possibly the suggestion of a believing going into all of that and whether or not that even matters here are the allegations against Biden that the president of the United States wanted Ukraine. To look into. This is why this is part of this so-called this alleged quid WPRO quote so Joe Biden presided over dealing between the United States and Ukraine during his tenure as vice president and simultaneously at the same time his son hunter. It just happened to be appointed to the board of Ukrainian Natural Gas Company making fifty thousand dollars a month so this is a company that according to CBS. CBS had connection with Ukrainian all guards. And it's also important to know that Hunter Biden is far as we know has no experience in the natural gas industry to speak of and he is even said you know. I probably wouldn't have gotten this job if my last name was it Biden. That in itself is at anything illegal. We might roll. Our eyes is at it. Whatever but that in of itself doesn't necessarily point to corruption to Joe Biden? So we have to keep going into the story. There was a prosecutor in Ukraine at the time named Victor showed it while Biden was vice president That was investigating the company that hunter binding was on the board of Biden was instrumental instrumental in getting this getting Ukrainian authorities to investigate an ultimately takedown shokhin this prosecutor for allegations of corruption against him according to the hill in two thousand fourteen the US threatened to withhold. Roughly one billion dollars in loan guarantees if Shokhin was not replace his prosecutor general a message. Joe Biden delivered to officials in Kiev while serving as vice president and recounted during the two thousand Eighteen Council on Foreign Relations Conference. So trump is same That that was a quid. Pro Quo led by Joe Biden to protect his son from a prosecutor who is investigating the company of which he his son served on the board. Joe Biden denies this. Of course he says that he has never discussed any kind of business dealings whatsoever with his sons. It's all just coincidental that it was happening. It at the same time wasn't in connection at all. That's a little bit sketchy as you can imagine you're probably putting the pieces together and say that really sound like a coincidence. It's the interesting part is that you really have to dig. You really have to dig. If you're reading stories about this to even find these allegations against Joe Biden. If you read the New York Times for example they have a recent story on all of this and it's titled Trump Ukraine and impeachment. The inside story of how we got here they don't at all. I outlined allegations against bite. And they say it like this they ask the Ukrainians to investigate a trump administration asked the Ukrainians into investigate unfounded allegations about former vice president. Joseph R Biden junior a one of Mr Trump's leading democratic rivals. So so they don't even say what the allegations are same with CNN. If you look at the timeline the timeline that they have for this impeachment saga you really have have to keep on clicking on links over and over again or just start a whole new google. Search if you want to know what. The accusations are against Joe Biden and they've even said that we've heard member to the media. Say actually I think it was cory booker's and not a member of the media presidential candidate He has he's dead. Why are we even talking about Joe Biden right in its offensive that the media is even talking about Joe Biden I? We shouldn't even be going into this at all. We need to ignore anything. That's going on with the Biden's and focus on president trump. That's obviously obviously with the media is trying to do so if you don't know what's going on and you're just the average person trying to figure things out you would have no idea you have no idea the accusations over the dealings between hundred Biden. Joe Biden and Ukraine Biden is potentially guilty of bribery and extortion. If a quid pro quo a could to be proven he potentially a withheld American aid for his family's personal benefit. Trump is being accused basically of doing the same thing and for the sake of his election withholding aid for an investigation into bite in which could benefit trump and the election. It's not the quid pro quo. That's the problem here that it's in and of itself is not illegal. A quid pro. Quo was pretty par for the course in foreign policy. The question is whether or not trump is using or withholding mm-hmm US resources to directly benefit him and his campaign which would qualify as an illegal foreign campaign contribution right now that is impossible to prove why because Biden is not the nominee he might be the nominee but he's not the nominee right now. We have no idea if he's going to be the nominee. It's looking good but there's no way for trump to know that Elizabeth Warren could very well be the nominee and so this investigation against Biden would have no benefit in that case to Donald Trump. So it is very difficult to prove that this kind of quid pro quo isn't just about Biden's corruption but is actually indirect relation Russian A to Donald Trump and his campaign which are going to see the New York Times and a lot of left leaning outlets they are going to continue to call. Joe Biden a political rival. That might be true group. That's actually not provable. True right now. He's not Donald Trump's political rival. He's not the nominee. He is a presidential candidate among a lot of presidential candidates. And we've got a a long way to go in the primaries. We don't know what's going to happen to. It's very difficult to prove that. He is doing this in order to benefit his own campaign. It just can't be proven right now. It can't be quantified. Here's how Robert Ray of Time magazine online puts it The problem for those pushing impeachment is that there there appears to be insufficient evidence to prove that trump committed a crime unlawful quid pro. Quo Is Limited to those arrangements that are corrupt that is to say the only those that are clearly unmistakably improper and therefore illegal but in the eyes of the law the specific measurable benefit that an investigation against the vitamins might bring a trump is nebulous. There is a serious question as to whether it could constitute a criminally illegal foreign campaign contribution of personal personal benefit to president trump. Indeed the office of Legal Counsel in the Criminal Division at the Justice Department apparently have already concluded that it could it just as important important the US Supreme Court and Lower Federal Courts have struggled since at least the early nineteen nineties with application of federal anti-corruption laws to situations like this wherein in-kind benefit in the form of campaign interference or assistant is alleged to be illegal Robert Ray goes onto say instead instead of president trump saying to his counterpart in Ukraine in words or substance. Do me a favor. He would have had he would have have to have said. Here's the deal and followed up by explicitly linking an investigation of the buy ins to the provision of US military assistance. None of that. Of course courses we saw in the transcript is what was set. He ends with this. It will be left instead to the. US Senate sitting as a court of impeachment with the requisite neutrality neutrality and the nation's best interests in mind to render judgment and put a stop to what is an undeniably all but exclusively partisan effort to remove the president from Office Time magazine obviously is not a conservative publication. So is there reason to impeach the impeach impeach the president. I don't think so. I don't think there's a case to be made for it. Not In my opinion impeachment hearings are going forth obviously Salihi. It is not going to go anywhere. I just don't think it's going to. I don't think that they have a good case to be made. I think that they're hoping to come upon more things So that they will be able to bolster enough support for this. I just don't think it's going to happen. So that's my take on all of that. I hope that answered at least your basic questions. We'll see what happens this week. It's going going to be a clown show as it always okay. Let's move on to Rodney. Read his execution is set for November twentieth. So that's about a week away but the innocence project and other criminal justice organizations claim that they have found evidence that proves read is not guilty or at least brings into serious question his guilt so they along with the star power of Hollywood even the Texas legislature are trying to stay his execution Russian. I'm going to give you a warning. Now what about talk about should should come with the trigger warning like it is disturbing. I would not recommend listening to this with kids. It's in the car or if you yourself don't want to hear the details of his crimes it is. You shouldn't feel bad for that. There is a lot of graphic detail detail on this that you might not necessarily want to listen to. And that's okay so Rodney. Reid is a black man convicted of murdering a white woman. I hate to even have to give those details. Unfortunately they have been made pertinent the the celebrities and the people that are advocating for this have made the racial component the racial component of this case. A very big deal. It's important to know that. A lot of support for Rodney. Reid is on the basis of current conversations conversations about racial politics not on the basis of what actually happened twenty three years ago. So that's just important for us to know when it comes to context so stacey states the victim was found to have been vaginal he raped and strangled to death by her own belt while being ainley raped odd the DNA from the Semen Eamon found in states matched that of Rodney reet. According to the daily wire the effort to stay the execution is primarily due to read advocates and and his legal team claiming a proper examination of forensic evidence shows that states was killed hours before she can read could have crossed paths. The Statesman reported in July. That of course up for debate which is why this is being discussed right now on social media and in the Texas legislature it reads. DNA has been founded connection to not just status rape and murder in connection to five different violent rapes. All of them white women one of whom was a twelve year old girl so he is a serial rapist and child rapist. That doesn't prove that he committed this particular crime but he is a serial rapist. We know that much. According to court documents this is again in an article on the daily wire by Amanda Prestigiacomo I read began dating. Caroline rebus an intellectually disabled woman. Court documents revealed reverses. caseworker noticed bruises on his body. And when asked about them mm-hmm revisit admitted that read would hurt her if she would not have sex with a sex with him later reverses caseworker. Notice that rebus was walking oddly and sat down gingerly the the response to the Supreme Court petition said revisit admitted that Reid had prior evening hit her called her vulgar names in Ainley raped her the samples apples from reverses rape kit provided the link to states's murder are read has been connected to the rapes of five other females including a twelve year old girl. According to the court documents the victim only identified publicly as a w says she was blindfolded gagged beaten orally and finally Ainley raped while all she was home alone the foreign DNA from aws rape kit was compared to read read was not excluded and only one in five point. Five billion people would have the same foreign four Indian a profile from a WS rape. Kit As noted by Breitbart news is Brandon. Darby read has not been exonerated from the rape of the twelve year old and a number of other women but such cases were likely not pursued because read was served a with the death penalty. So you have a lot of defenders of read same while those those cases were never they were never pursued to. They're not proven we'll no that's not true. The reason why they weren't fully pursued is because he was already convicted with murder order and he got the death penalty. There's really no point The mother of reads children claimed that he constantly physically abused her even while pregnant and that he raped her frequently even in front of their children. He is also accused of the rape of a nineteen year old Linda Schlueter. According to court documents he took her home one night and tried to force her to give him him a blow job when she refused. He said I'm going to have to kill you them but a car drove by and apparently she was able to get away. He was accused of rape by another nineteen eighteen year old named Connie York. He denied knowing her then later. Claimed yeah. I had sex with her. She wanted it so stand up guy. There is another point to consider so there is another part of of this that people are examining a states was engaged to a police officer at the time named Jimmy Fennel and she what. There's a theory that she was seeing. Rodney Rodney Reed behind his back. Fennel was leader also found guilty of sexual assault and rape of another woman and this theory that States was was actually having an affair with Rodney. Read while she was engaged to fennel is something that his defense has used. The innocence project has also used on. But it's a theory. Read that states stone. Sister says is untrue. She does not believe that her sister stacy was killed by her fiance fiddle. It isn't project and other reporters are going off of also so a testimony of a gang member and fellow inmate of Jimmy Kimmel so he was like I said he was convicted of sexual abuse and he was put into jail for ten years so a fellow inmate of Jimmy Kimmel who claimed fennel bragged about killing his inward loving fiancee. Innocence project is using that testimony. He is part of their defensive. Rodney read this theory of an affair between states and read has been rejected. Not only people that know states but also by the jury in sixteen court without dissent so this whole story that is honestly just kind of as far as we can tell pulled out of thin air that states in and read or together and having consensual sex behind her fiancee's back it has been rejected. It's been rejected by the jury. It's been rejected by sixteen without dissent. And yes and and yet it is being used as the alternative story to her murder by read. That isn't project has also claimed or has also used Jim Clampett Clampett a former sheriff's deputy who said that status fiance said at her funeral that she got what she deserved. We of course don't know that that's true. It clearly early seems like Jimmy. Kimmel wasn't a great guy considering that he was charged that he was convicted with sexual abuse served ten years for that. Apparently there other been been other women who have come out and said that he has been abusive towards them so also not a great guy now of course neither read nor fiddles backgrounds. Make them guilty of of this crime. But I don't see I don't see how the evidence of read salmon in her abused and murdered body aren't evidence enough and and yes. It does matter that he was founded connection to multiple cases of abuse and rape. Of course that matters. He wasn't charged on those things. Because as we already said he was given the death penalty for his murder but the DNA matched so the question remains a matter which side you land on. His is innocent or his guilt. The question remains should we be okay with the death penalty regardless of whether or not someone is innocent or guilty and I can speak from a Christian perspective. Respective there is a libertarian perspective. Says that it's too expensive for us to execute criminals. I guess the argument is that we should just let let them A live and die in prison for fifty plus years but the Christian perspective on the death penalty is that yes. There were instances this in which the death penalty was not just recommended but actually commanded in the Old Testament and one of those instances was murdered. If you murdered a man in in cold blood if you earn a murdered an innocent man. There's a difference even in the Bible between manslaughter and murder Then you deserve the death penalty and a lot of people say well that's not compassionate. We're supposed to be pro-life from the womb to the tomb you can be pro-life from the womb to the tomb in still say. Hey death penalty is is the the just punishment for certain crimes and I think it's wrong to look at the death penalty especially one that is condoned by God in the Old Testament estimate as a degradation of human life that we don't believe that image bearers of God has value. That's not the case. That's not the case at all. Well actually how we should look at. It is that God cares about life so much he cares about innocent life so much that only just cost for for killing an innocent life is your own life. That's how much God cares about the innocent. That's how much God cares about human beings. That's how much God cares about out. Murder is that he says this is the only way to make up for this with your own life. That is not just God of justice. It's God of mercy and compassion Goshen a defender in an advocate of the innocent. We should look at the intensity of the punishment for a crime like murder. That God prescribes prescribes and say. Wow God really cares got really cares about innocent life. He really hates murder if he is willing. If he is able to say that this. This is the only just punishment the taking of someone else's life who took another person's life In this person's life than we know that he really hates he hates the saint of murder in the crime of murder and he takes it very seriously now of course there are some caveats to that. Christians should always care about truth we should always always care about innocence. We should always want to do further digging and if it came up it really is a really is believable that redon not commit this crime name then we should care about that and we should try to stay his execution. I personally am not so sure. That the evidence points to him being innocent at this point especially with the connection of the DNA but if further evidence does come up and it looks like okay. This guy didn't actually commit this crime. It doesn't matter if he committed the crimes he didn't commit. This crime signed that he got the death penalty for Christians. Of course we should care about that. We care about truth. We care about the defensive the innocent and just like God does and so we should always be hesitant hesitant and to be. We should always be careful. We should always be cautious when it comes to prescribing the death penalty. Because that's a really big deal to kill someone who didn't commit the crime. They were actually convicted for in so we should be hesitant. I think we should be hesitant to give that To to give that as has the just punishment to give the death penalty as the payment for the crime that they committed. Because we don't want to make that mistake human life is valuable and we should be slow to kill an image bearer of God. I think it all depends on whether or not we can beyond a shadow of doubt proves is this person committed the crime that is actually worthy of the death penalty. Now I do understand the arguments. I understand the argument of being against the death penalty. That's okay I think that there's an argument argument made for that. I think this is like a salvation issue that if Christians disagree on this That one of them is more cushion than the other. I don't think that at all. What are you meant that does really bother me is when I hear that? You can't be pro-life if you're a pro death penalty will. There's no hypocrisy in that at all. Of course you can believe that the I acts of someone who murdered someone else is righteous with Al.. Believe that the death penalty for an innocent baby is rate. Of course you can be four justice for murders and still be for the preservation and the protection of innocent babies Abe's inside the womb. Of course that doesn't make any sense. Now it is hypocritical to be against the death penalty for murderers but before the death penalty for unborn children. That is hypocritical critical but the other way round is not hypocritical. Again I think within the Christian community we can have conversations about the death penalty and what it should look like from a Christian chimp perspective. I don't think that there's a good argument against it. I don't think that you can say outright that. The Bible says that we shouldn't have a death penalty for murderers we can maybe have a nuance conversation about it. But I think it's difficult to find the biblical support for that to say that everyone no matter or what needs to be against the death penalty in order to be a good Christian. There is also this infatuation there seems to be and it happens mostly mostly I would say on the left side of the aisle this infatuation with criminals now like I said Christians should care about justice. We should care about truth but I don't I don't know I don't know that we always need to that. We always need to jump into these media firestorms as soon as they happened in about someone's alleged innocence just because it happens to be trendy right now. I think that we do need to take a step back and say okay. What actually happened? What to the court documents actually actually say Brandon Darby who writes Breitbart? He tweeted the court documents. You can go to his twitter page and you can read all of those for yourself and you can come to your own conclusions Asians but I do think that we should be very hesitant. We should take a step back and say okay. What's really true here and we should always try to be on the side of truth? We to shouldn't be on. It shouldn't be making us about current political or racial conversations. We should base it on what is true and therefore what is just okay. I do just want to touch on the Epstein Thing Inc really quickly so everyone knows Epstein grow sky physically traffic young girls and he had all of these important people over to his house to have these sexcapades Kapadia these orgies. Basically with these teenage girls. He was a serial abuser. Rapist pedophile disgusting guy and really people. Have I've known about this for a long time. He's imported he's billionaire in so it's kind of just been pushed under the rug and actually there was a reporter. ABC ABC who had this story three years ago and she had an interview and she was caught on a hot mike saying that. ABC wouldn't let her release Lisa Story. So I'm GonNa let you listen to that now story. Three years of had this interview with Virginia Roberts we would not put it on the air. I always told WHO's Jeffrey every afternoon. No one knows who that is. This is stupid story than the palace found out that we had her allegations of a Prince Andrew and threatened us a million different ways of framing meal. It Interview Kate that we've got also washed the story and then on an Alan Dershowitz was also implicated because of the planes. She told me everything. She had pictures she everything. She's in hiding for twelve years. We convinced her to come out. Convince her to talk to us It was unbelievable. We'll be at Clinton we everything I tried for three years to get on you too. No avail and now it's all coming out and it's like these new real revelations and breaking handle all of it. I so pissed right now. Every day I get were pissed. Because I'm just like what what we had was unreal. So that was released by Project Veritas and it has caused quite to the reaction as you can imagine why. ABC would push something like this down and they actually extract down who they think released this hot mike film or this hot Mike Footage and they found out that the person and who they thought released the footage now works. CBS They told CBS and CBS. Fired this poor girl on the poor girl says look. I wasn't even the one who released the footage wjr. But even if she were when she considered a whistle blower that they should protect that they should. CBS especially should be proud of no. That's not how it worked. Because they have to protect their own in so that's kind of what's going on with that is why did. ABC pushed down this story. Why did CBS agree to fire? This girl I mean it's pretty crazy and we're GONNA talk more about Project Veritas and everything. They found pretty soon but Also there's the whole thing about Jeffrey Epstein. Not Actually killing himself. It was reported a few weeks ago that he had killed himself in his cell and everyone was like how is that. How is that possible? This is a high security purity prison. How is it even feasible? That he could get away with hanging himself. He was on Suicide Watch. So how did this happen to the whole theory has been that he. He was actually murdered that he was killed by someone connected to one of the high powered men that he had allowed to sleep with all of these girls that he had in in his mansion in Florida because they didn't want him to testify out them and so that's the theory people are still trying to get to the bottom of that. I don't know. Apparently the autopsy does not point to him killing himself. There is like a legitimate. There's a legitimate reason to believe that he actually didn't commit suicide which crazy it's crazy. It's crazy I mean. Obviously it's better off. That he is dead unless he repented and came to Christ. We know exactly where he is. He is getting what he deserves and end that that in that sense we can be glad that justice is served. But I do think we should get to the bottom of it because a lot of people in connection to this that need to be held accountable. Okay that's all I have for today. I hope you guys enjoyed this episode. I hope I gave you a good understanding about some of the hottest topics that are going on and I will be back here on Friday with a really exciting interview. And I'll see you guys.

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Rice vs Noodles

Smash Boom Best

38:57 min | 2 years ago

Rice vs Noodles

"From the brains behind brains on its smash boom best the show for people with big opinions. I'm molly bloom and this is smash boom. Best the show where we take two things smash them together and ask you to decide which one is best. Two of the world's most beloved loved starches are taking the stage today on one side. We have mighty multicolored rice and on the other we have slippery slurp -able noodles. We we know they're both yummy. But which one do you think is cooler. I eat a lot of pasta. I like rice. I can just eat a whole thing of like playing takeout rice with some soy sauce prices all right. It's like a base for other flavors. Though noodles are just good on their own you can put your phone in rice if you drop it in the toilet. Just noodles like come on. It's a tricky choice but luckily christian is here to help us make this delicious decision high christian high so christian. I want to start by asking you do you. You get into debates with your friends or family. Sometimes the pendulum is like which channel to watch food to eat or go watch to which restaurants so to our debate of the day rice versus noodles. Do you like rice. Is i do like dry ice because it can go mostly mostly with anything and also up all the flavor. So how do you usually prepare the race. <hes> i adequate the rice and then like the meat on top for the rice can soak up the juice excellent roundabout noodles do like noodles yes very much. What is your favorite type of noodle all of them delicious to me you. Do you think one of them is cooler already ago noodles okay. Why do you think you come in with this noodle bias potentially because they have a bunch of flavor in it could mostly go with like the vegetables yeah i e so it's kinda gain healthy for you very interesting well i. I know we have one debater here today. Who wants to change your mind but do you think you can put that by society and look at this in an impartial way today okay well. I'm getting hungry so let's meet our debaters here to represent the glorious grain. We call rice. It's joy dolo hi joy high the crowd goes. You guys cool. You have to do this debate and everybody big crowd crowd behind me that just loves them in the studio so joint one ascendance wise rice the smash boo best. Oh one sentence sentence if only is versatile one. It's delicious and it's tiny but it's so mighty rice smash smashed christian. I think you've got her fired up by saying you like noodles excited wrong in a very nice way uh-huh adhere to represent national noodles. It's megan mccarthy carino meghan hello. I hope you're ready for a roche's roche's argument. Oh makes only take thank you there so megan in one sentence why are noodles the cooler carbohydrate. Well noodles have a lot more variety. You can put a lot of different ingredients into noodles. You can put ingredients on top of noodles. Noodles can go in soups. Noodles can go inside his things can go inside of noodles like dumplings. Noodles are better well. We have a yummy conundrum on our hands but before we dive in let's review each each round of debate i up. We've got the declaration of greatness in this round. Each debater uses facts history and lore to make a case for why their side is the coolest i after each declaration. The other side has thirty seconds to rebut their opponents statement then. We have the micro around in this round. Each team has prepared. A response wants to a funny prompt and it's their job to do with their imaginative skills. The third round is thus sneak attack. This is when we surprise debaters with a prompt they have to respond fund to on the spot and finally we've got the final six where each debater has to seal the deal with six words about their side and if it's a tie we go <music> sudden-death after each round christian will award a point to either rice or noodles listeners at home. We want you to judge to so find something to write with and keep track of those points when the show is over go to smash boom dot org and vote for the team you think deserves the title of smash boom best all right debaters. Are you ready islas born ready. I am so ready. I'm at my boiling me again. Well let this food fight. Begin declaration of great all right we flipped a coin and ajoy is up first. Let's hear your declaration of greatness for rice well. I have a confession to make. I actually really like noodles titles. I have pasta regularly and my husband is a master's zoodles maker sakina noodles but when it comes to champion the greatest of all time time the king of the mountain it has to be rice rice is so delicious so nutritious so superior career to all other foods that in some ancient myths it came from the heavens above like this legend from the meow people of southern china. It stars an unlikely hero. That's right a devoted dougie. According to legend this dog had nine tails tells his humans were often hungry so he decided to get them a new food they could grow he snuck into the heavens to steal from the gods rice stores but but the divine guards caught our heroic poach red pod before he could escape they cut off eight of his tales but when the dog returned to earth as humans discovered. It's something the dog it's back and what's that in its one remaining tale. It's rice scrim katie. <music> dogs are a new best friend. Yeah dogs and rice makes sense that are most beloved foods would come from our most beloved pets <music>. What's that timmy felony well. Oh no oh oh outside p._d. The racist better than noodles that makes more sense scientists believe that rice first appeared near the yangtze river in china over eight thousand jose years ago the people that lived in the area started trading rice and before long it was growing throughout southern china then rice spread from china to sri lanka concha to india the mediterranean north africa and europe and from europe it was brought over to what was known back then as the new world old and people realized they could grow rice pretty much everywhere in the tropics. The wetlands probably even in your sock drawer and recently elite group of chinese scientists successfully grew rice in the desert to there are tons of varieties of rice all over the world. There's the familiar brown and white rice but have you ever heard of black rice also known as forbidden rice. It was reserved for emperors royalty the and ancient china. There's tied jasmine rice. That has a floral smell. There's a bus mahdi rice from pakistan and india which is aged for a whole year and and italian auto boreal rice that's used in risotto's the list goes on and on because there are thousands of different varieties of rice and not to make this weird but they're even rice noodles so awkward but rice can defend against more than hunger it can defend against a tax to feel my wrath tape that you just throw rice at me. Okay not just rice allow. Let me to explain around six hundred years ago. China had a big problem their neighbors to the north what is now mongolia. Were not not so friendly. They were constantly. Attacking chinese villages at the northern border and people were over it so the chinese government. I decided to build some defense. They wanted to build a wall to protect them but not just any wall. A rice fortified wall. They used a paste of sticky. Rice flour mixed with a form of limestone to hold the bricks together. Try to feed us now. You'll never break through our great rice wall aw and that rice and brick concoction is sort of famous. It's a section of a little thing called. The great wall of china aw that's right. Rice is a part of one of the seven wonders of the world. It's bound so tightly that to this day weeds cannot grow through the bricks in some places because of noodles just kidding because of rice. Finally i find rice nostalgic because i grew up eating my mom's favorite favorite rice dishes and my mom is definitely team. Rice our bond. My family is from liberia and west africa and and we eat rice as often as most people eat bread and don michael somewhere rice rice rice. My mom loves to cook liberian rice dishes like jal of rice this hot pepper soup and rice or my personal favorite cassava leaves and rice with palm butter. Ya ma and my mom is hands down the the best cook anywhere in the world which is why i trust her when she says right is number one and when you have to make a choice you have to save rice. Vice rice is number one because it's delicious it's versatile. It has a rich history and most of all because my mom said so so thanks i'll be here all week and that was a rousing declaration of greatness for rice and special special cameo from mama dolo the part where she talked about a race wall that they couldn't. They have just eat in the way through in the limestone might not be so delicious but okay megan. I'm guessing you have a lot have to say so. You've got thirty seconds for your rice rebuttal and your time starts now all right. We'll it's funny. You should say that you like noodles still because i really like race race to it makes maybe the second best ingredient for noodles after we'd and in front of a bunch of other things that you can put into noodles also dogs and noodles roles dogs are cool really say rice is kind of like more like a cat because it's like there might be a lot of variety but of all the house cats. They all just kind of look like cats cats whereas noodles are like dogs noodles lino they can be long or short or big or small time yeah you. That's that's a really good all right meghan. It is time for your declaration of greatness for noodles and go picture your favorite noodles okay. I know it's impossible to choose right because there there are so many amazing noodles he got saucy. Noodles like spaghetti or chow main noodle soups like rahman are fun stuff. The noodles like ravioli or dumplings blat noodles like lasagna noodles. You probably didn't even know or noodles. If you think of oba you know it's kind of round noodle that goes into t it is. It's a noodle <hes> at those little black balls at the bottom of bubble. Tea are noodles mind blow right. Can obama is an historian at the university of the pacific who is rightly obsessed with noodles which he says are any food made from a dough that combines starchy flour with the liquid that is then formed into shapes so boba tapioca flour mixed with water. Most italian and chinese noodles are made from wheat. Fund noodles are made from rice. There's noodles made from yams and seaweed and roots. The ingredients for noodles can be grown anywhere so you have a greater diffusion of local noodles and many more types of noodles than you would rise and they can be made into practically any shape shape you can imagine is an ancient chinese texts called the tubing that mentions puppies tongues and pigs noses. There's so many so many very silly shapes radiators or little ears. I mean they're all kind of silly and funny. There's even noodles that are shaped like rice. Yeah you can have noodles made from rice and shaped like rice but which still have all the awesome delicious qualities of noodles and none of the boringness of rice win win but noodles can also be enormous in china. There are master noodle polars who make very very very very long noodles. The record for the longest noodle ever made is ten thousand feet long two miles so where air to these magical coils of coolness come from well. There's a lot of legends and disagreements but we do know that the oldest noodles ever discovered were found in northwest china at an archaeological site called lajja and they date back four thousand years that was just about five hundred years after after the pyramids of giza were built in egypt in what was known as the bronze age when humans were just figuring out how to make tools out of bronze and apparently noodles. I'll just mix this with a little water. <hes> delicious millet noodles okay. We don't know how delicious they were but we do know that before these early noodle leaders got to finish their beautiful steaming bowls. Oh boy a noodle dinner just for me something something terrible happened. Archaeologists think an earthquake struck triggering a massive mudslide buried the village and the noodles in the rubble double. We don't know what happened to these. Ancient noodle lovers but archaeologists found their dinner preserved under the debris thousands of years later or making them the oldest known noodles today. Most noodles are made by machine but not all besides being something. That's really delicious. I eat. I think that making noodles is by hand is just a wonderful thing to do. Sonoko sakai is cooking teacher who grew up in japan her favourite noodles to make our soba noodles which are made from buckwheat dough and cut into very thin square-shaped strips anything that you do with doe i think takes a lot of practice and good instincts because you have to feel the the hydration asian field temperature and talk to your adult like how are you feeling you know just a little needy you get a meeting but when you're done comes the absolutely best most wonderful part eating the noodles. There's a lot of rituals that we practice when you slurp noodles and you are allowed to make noise and i used to get goose pimples as a child just walking by a noodle shop in here. All these people slurping in the morning. Eh noodles can be made with almost any ingredient in any part of the world shaped into thousands of different silly shapes stretched two miles long put in soups sauces casseroles and even bubble tea. They make a fantastic last meal. During a natural disaster they can be preserved intact for four thousand years. The best one's required the skilled artistry of noodle master and they make the most beautiful satisfying tantalizing sound. Try doing nat with rice. Actually don't you might get hurt noodles for the win. Mary pursuasive declaration for noodles christian. What stood out to you about megan's tribute to noodles. The part understood off me is <hes> when she said that you can shave noodles into whatever you want seventy thinking that can't you shave noodles into a bowl and then put noodles in that you could just next level christian all right well joy. I'm guessing you have some thoughts. Let's to share just one or so you have thirty seconds for your noodle negation and your time starts now okay so the longest longest noodles two miles. The longest rice wall was the great wall which is a little more than two miles and it's cool that you know like you can make dough to make noodles but but rice is grown. It's all natural. It comes from the earth and isn't that what we want as people and citizens of this great earth that we live on also four thousand housing years ago is when they found the first noodles rice was over eight thousand years ago literally double the amount also related to any of these little masters because my mom at the time colin mom in oh okay i it's time it's time to lord up point. Which is cooler rice or noodles. Don't tell us but mark it down on your scoresheet. I want to hear your slurping outta you meghan. Have you made a decision yeah uh-huh he did. He made a decision and listeners. How about you. Have you decided if you want to send us a message about today's debate head to smash boom dot org and send us a note okay debaters. We're going to give you a moment to ref-. You'll have a sushi roll or a bowl of spaghetti because you're going to need that energy for the next three rounds but don't go too far movie right back with some more smash boom best. You're watching state of debate owned her rage in rhetoric and all firing argumentation till douglas here with thirteen time debate champ taylor lincoln yep and today were rolling over to a shoe store in toronto. Oh canada were too young. Women are arguing over which us they should buy rubber. Doodles rose sounds like a toughie lace up walkout roll tape. I've never seen these rubber doodle shoes before. They're pretty cool. You shade don't get rubber doodles. Get a pair of copper roots <music> everyone's buying so they must be the best right choubey dooby doo what a pooh an argument p. u. Vanessa's peer pressuring jade into buying klopp larussa. He's using a logical fallacy called the bandwagon effect. Much fallacies are debate mistakes that make it easier ear for your opponent to tear your argument apart and the bandwagon effect is when you argue that something must be true because everyone else thinks so. Let's hear it again everyone's buying so they must be the best right uh wrong just because something is popular doesn't mean it's cool. Let's see if vanessa can come up with a more persuasive angle fashion forward gut tape but i don't wanna look like everyone else else but jade. You can get them in any color. You want pick a color. No one else had <hes> that's true and remember in club ruse. You can klopp eru in your own special. Hugh did only shoe for you. I want to cop andrew do and you know why because vanessa gave jade good reasons to get proper colorful fun. She explained why they're popular. The bandwagon effect is when you just say they're popular so they're the best. That's what people say about todd because i'm funny gainfully employed and good book see i supplied evidence. Okay well nice dave. We'll catch you. 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That's learned with homer dot com slash boom <unk> pass nash <music> <unk> smash. This is smash boom best show boat showdown. Have you ever thought about who would win. This battle might might abate ideas fire versus ice that debate idea was sent to us by zeke from arroyo grande <unk> california. We'll give him a call at the end of the show to see who he thinks would win. Now i know your tummy's might be rumbling so let's get back to it. It's time for around to the micro. Round are micro grow around is smash boom superhero. We asked joy and meghan to write a movie trailer for a superhero movies starring. Their side joy went i last time so meghan europe. Let's hear your super noodle movie trailer. A long long long long noodling away in a world journ slurp free the evil lord right citron has captured the high throne of planet stover's plotting to take go over the galaxy haha about down to your galactic green overlord and unite the warring factions of the cook planetary systems behind signed him by infecting their bodies with brain eating aliens joining the warriors into mind-numbed zombies who desire only only a single boring food in a choice of just one shape and two flavors white or brown <hes> <music> rice so plane so boring. The riser drawn takeover was near but he forgot just one thing hey rice zombies chew on this tomb noodle stretching through time shape shifting through universes. I'm a string. I'm a spiral. I'm a cheese pack pillow of power little free. If need be this slippery hero is here to bring justice an endless delicious variety continental yours so tough no ma'am. I'm just out dented coming soon to a bowl <music> near you all right joy. It's your turn. Let's hear your take on a superhero trailer four vice world wherever hungry i sorry i'm so hungry an impossible situation. How am i gonna get this house of cards to stick together. Get against someone one grain of rice. Do you understand feeding people's in my past. I'm just a single grain of race. What could could i do to rule them. All i'm going at water a whole lot of what one grain will absorb the courage courage to find to satisfy hunger and to kick butt a burrito buzzer mati forbidden and jasmine star in rice bryce revenge the pot run over a trilogy coming to a rice cooker near you win twenty to twenty five minutes <music> man. I would go see both of those movies the three d. We get the home version i would watch it over and over okay christian. It's time to award. A point ain't for one of these starch amazing foods. Have you given a point. Yes was it a tough decision. Kind've easier not supposes round well that brings us to our third round the sneak attack. You guys ready. I think so don't push ups. Your sneak. Attack is superfan. Imagine your side has a sports team and you you. Are there number one fan. We want you to make up a team chant. That's four lines long about why your side is the best got it or okay. Okay got it all right. We will give you a few minutes to write q. The hold music please sticky laco starchy staple people of delights rice rice yum. I like rice be come. Pekin slurp slurp gobelins green butter pesto up radio <music> okay. We are ready for some chance joy europe first. Let's hear your cheer for team rice okay. I need some help from patty audience. When i say rice you gotta say rice so if i for example i'll go rice rice rice rice. I need to hear everybody you guys. I'm not gonna say it but also the people at home. Okay right nice rice right more than embrace rice. They will suffice race is better that new oh man anna oh back back back with confetti fireworks firework war. There's didn't say anything about it added vocal sound. Oh my gosh i i am speechless. That would make me a fan of team rice for sure but let's hear what team noodle has meghan. Let's hear your noodle rallying and cry all right. I think i'm gonna add a little pounding into mind excellent all right all right. I believe that we are long. I believe that we are around and we can do really shape. You can imagine including some very silly and very cool was not oh man based on belief noodles. Come from the power of my mind. If you believe in noodles clap okay christian who is going to be a tough decision uh-huh. I know it's hard to choose but you have to award a point for just one of them okay. Have you decided christian. Yes wonderful now. It's time mm for our last round. The final six meghan europe convinced that noodles are the coolest in just six words all right slurp rainbow of delicious dough art <hes> and who done okay joy. Let's hear your final six on rice. Noodles are fine. Rice is it's better. That's three from wikipedia. You went in and edited edited p._d. Article well team writes in team. Noodles both did an amazing job but it's time to award the final point and pick a winner christian. Have you decided your final point. Yes alright tally up the score drum roll please suit and the winner is the thai danny in a joint meghan very evenly matched so it all comes down to this in your sudden death. Challenge is abracadabra aw imagine that your side either a noodle or a grain of rice is a famous magician. What kind of magic tricks would they perform. Do they have a stage stage name. Maybe an assistant will give you a minute to do some brainstorming and use your noodle the christian okay time to hear your abracadabra. Magic acts so megan when i last round so joy. You're up this fall. Come experience rice angel magnificence all the way from the heart of china to soak up your attention in this show we will drop one single grain of rice into the ocean shen and watch the water disappear see the death defying rice enter into boiling water and come out even more flavorful lever watch the beautiful mrs pork chop layout arrays pollini and magnificence and watch the deliciousness takeover this fall absorb. The experience taught all right man. You're up here about your magic act okay. Let's hear it for the amazing seizing stretch and her handsome sausage sidekick meet bomb as ing feats of expertly turning lumps of boring wearing rice or other dough into so many wonderful delicious exciting shapes and flavours slinging her stretchy body around around the room recchia loops that will make your hunger disappear excellent nicely done. Oh both magic shows sound captivating but christian. You have to pick one to award appoint to okay. I am drenched in sweat. Whoa <laughter> just ran a marathon debates. Take it all right christian. The judging criteria is up to you. Which magic show would you like to see. Who made you laugh more. What was more captivating creative who has gotten your final point. Go with rice aw man and i love well well christian. I think you chose right but you know if i can just make a small statement. You know it's not really about winning. You know it's really about the journey and as i you said before thank you know hold your applause as i said noodles are delicious. I like them. They're all right but the greatest of all time there's got to be all right anybody hungry uh-huh. I am so christian yet. What about joys magic act put it over the top for you like the part where she was talking about. The where watch the rice do death defying trick <hes> putting boiling water and why don't you come on more tasteful you like those high stakes magic acts like it. You know megan like i said you know. Noodles are delicious. They're good you know. I actually have fought like regularly. I really enjoy that and and i think you have a very nice speaking voice as well. I've had a really rice time just been really nice to be able to just revel in the carbs with you. Well christian christian thinks race one but listeners how about you head to our website smash boom dot org and vote. I'm pretty sure i'm right but we'd love to know what you routing and that's it for. This debate battle smash boom best is a creation of the people at brains on and american public media. It's produced by mark sanchez santa totten in maui bloom illicit dudley and rosie dupont. We had engineering help from johnny evans and j. c. bowl and we had production help from maine akot wilhelm christina lopez and laura indeed. We want to give special. Thanks to justin coup austin cross taylor kaufman. Josh holt lindsay davis chip walton melanie tracy mumford eric langham takas then brandin santos chrissy peas and john miller joy. Is there anyone you wanna think today. I really want to thank my mom <hes> for you know bringing me into the world uh-huh making all that rice and showing me the way of the cassava leaves and like pulled out the big guns bringing your mom in oh yeah she'll be in mexico uh-huh and what about you meghan anyone wanna think today i would like to thank my husband who with his undying muddled race has galvanized me for noodles forever and how about you christian. Do you have any special shoutouts today. Dry family for are you in here in harvard is excellent and before we go. Let's call up zeke. He's the listener who suggested the fire versus ice debate. I think the ice would win because i sent its multi ormuz water which can extinguish fire excellent point seek the listeners. Do you have an idea for an epic showdown head to smash boom dot org and tell us all about it. That's it for this episode of smash boom best. We'll be back soon with another debate battle. 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Ep. 145 - What does it mean to be a modern day abolitionist? Part 2.

The Breakdown with Shaun King

17:38 min | 1 year ago

Ep. 145 - What does it mean to be a modern day abolitionist? Part 2.

"Earlier this week I started a two part series on what it means to be an abolitionist in the modern context. What does that really mean practically experiential? How do we become abolitionist? What do our actions look like the day? I WANNA conclude that series and talk a little little bit more. Be Super Practical about how all of us can join this. Modern Day abolitionist movement dock include that series and also have a very very important update on the impeachment of Donald Trump. This is Shaun King and you're listening to the the the break down the the breakdown of a breakdown Salat to call yourself an abolition right. It's it's no small thing like even I think to call yourself a freedom fighter. I think today the words activist and organizer are thrown around very lightly for people who aren't necessarily that active or very organized. A lot of words are thrown out there and I think the word abolitionist in particular is so serious and has such historical grounding in routes that none of us myself included should be it quick to call ourselves abolitionist. If we don't quite know what that means and today I want to continue the second part of a series on what it means to be an abolitionist. I let me start there. It's it's based on your actions and it's based on your world view. It's it's based on how you see the world and what you do about the world you acknowledge exist. Are you understanding me that before before you can ever really act to be an abolitionist. You have to have a world view that there are systems and structures that need to be abolished and it took me a while to to get to that point in my life. Not that I was questioning the systems and structures sure so much as I just didn't understand how vital it is to have a world view that is the foundation nation of the actions that you go and do a lot of times in Contemporary Society in particular. I I think we mimic and parrot. I don't I don't even mean this as a disc I think it's just an observation and I have done this before that we we mimic what we see going on around us be it. We we mimic the tweets of people. We admire our instagram post to facebook post of people. We Admire Meyer. We we march in protest and demonstrate because we saw people from previous generations. Do that very thing. And so we mimic those actions but if we're writing the post if we're marching and protesting and demonstrating but don't have the fundamental worldview you that there are racist. White supremacist unjust systems. That run this country and run the world if we don't understand their their fuel their passion for greed for wealth there that they are fundamentally fueled by Capitalism at its added utter. Worst that if we don't accept the the nature of the systems systems that we live in and sometimes unknowingly and unwittingly participate in. If we don't fundamentally agree that they are unjust corrupt racist bigoted greedy systems. That run. This this country run this culture. We don't accept that then whatever action you do in. I'm sorry if this steps on your toes does whatever actions you're doing. I don't know that they are abolitionist. Actions we could. We could come at it from another angle and say ah yes. You can take abolitionist actions. But not be an abolitionist. Do you know what I'm saying. Like it'd be like the argument to say. Hey that you told a lie but you're not a liar. I guess that is to say that. You don't lie in principle like you don't lie as a habit as a lifestyle but every now and then you tell you tell a few and and so maybe maybe. There's a way for us to have abolitionist. Delicious Actions abolitionist action steps. If you will without you calling yourself an abolitionist but being an abolitionist. ABOLITIONIST is about seeing the unjust systems of the world and knowing that they fundamentally need to be torn down and then being an abolitionist means having that world view that the systems and structures there's of the world are cruel and unjust. Fueled by all manner of discrimination and should be torn down and then you Act On that worldview. Now I fundamentally hope that I fit that definition and and I think for those of you who are listening. Let me say it's aspirational for all of us. It's not a one time thing. Being an abolitionist honest is not. Just how you see the world because I I see a lot of people who do call themselves abolitionist. But they're mainly they are philosophers offers of of a certain worldview but not practitioners of that world view. So it's not enough to be an abolitionist just philosopher that you advocate the philosophy but never take the actions at the core at the root of being. An abolitionist list is acting on it. Who are you setting free? What are you abolishing and listen? I'm not saying that. Inside of an abolitionist abolitionist movement. We don't have philosophers we don't have thinkers we don't think tanks We don't have writers in journalist list. Of course of course we need all of that but all of us should have actions that tilt toward justice and results and for many of us you know in may be the case that your your primary contribution may be some form of philosophy the or- writing or journalism. But we need to see at least secondarily you fighting for freedom for justice in in a way that gets to the root of the unjust systems. We aim to abolish. Are you with me. Are you following me. What does it mean to be an abolitionist? How do you live it? And I've I've mentioned this just once before. I think there's one fundamental a disagreement that I have with people. That are abolitionist. Many abolitionist operate berate under an an all or nothing philosophy that either we commit to tearing it all down in one fail swoop or anything else's is selling out and again i. I have to fundamentally mentally disagree with that as you've heard me say on this podcast many times if the unjust system in part that we're talking about if part of that unjust system is is the system of mass incarceration systems of mass incarceration. You've heard heard me say that there's not a system. But there are thirty thousand micro systems and all thirty thousand of them cannot be torn down down all at the same time. It's literally impossible. And in fact even the microsystems have to be torn down policy by policy law by law one at a time and so I understand the desire to tear tear it all down in one fell swoop. But that's just not how it works is just not realistic and and it. It reveals a a fundamental misunderstanding of what this system is. It's not one system it's thirty thousand microsystems with millions of laws and implications that have to be addressed and as much as I would love to see it all torn down at once in one fell swoop. That's just not how this system is ever going to be torn down. And so no. You're not selling out if you do it. One Policy One person one system when structure at a time not at at all but in indeed quite the contrary if you are fighting to tear down the system policy by policy and you do so because you're a world view is that this system is fundamentally unjust your novelist so that's what I want you to be all of you. Who are listening sending to this podcast? Who who really are a part of the breakdown family? I want each of you to become abolitionist. I want you to adopt the world view you that. These systems and structures are unjust at their root in their origin that the these systems really are just direct descendants of slavery which we all know was horrible in nothing but unjust and so these systems built on top of those structures are also deeply corrupt and unjust and should be torn down and replaced with something much better in some cases cases replaced with nothing at all. And so I want you to have that world view and I want you to continue as many as you as many of you have already done once you to continue. Can you taking real action so that you can proudly boldly call yourself an abolitionist and no that is true. Listen I have a quick word from one of our sponsors today and after that I have some very big news about the impeachment of Donald Trump Today's episode of the breakdown is brought to you by circle. 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Deport talk about the play a clip for you of the Judiciary Chairman Nadler approving moving the articles of impeachment. Let me play. It's thirty second clip. That is going to sound super basic. But it's actually really a deeply historic. Moment just happened minutes ago. Mister Chairman there are twenty three is and seventeen knows articles agreed to the resolution as amended is ordered reported the favorably to the House members today system it views resolution will be reported as a single amendment in the nature was substitute without objection. Staff is authorized to make technical into into forming changes that objections to Jersey chairman purpose. Does the gentleman seek recognition for Santa Claus to Ella rule eleven. I give notice of intent to file dissenting Notices heard without objection. The committee is adjourned and liked that. The articles of impeachment have been approved by Congress. It's now my best. Guess that unless they continue to work through the weekend which is highly unlikely that we are going going to see the impeachment of Donald Trump in full next week and that he will obviously be impeached by the House so representatives making him only the third president in the history of the United States to be impeached. Of course that means it will then go to the Senate for trial while Republicans fully control the Senate in every way and unless something wild comes out I doubt out that they will uphold the impeachment and have trump removed from office. But let me let me tell you the trick. They're about to play Republicans. Republicans don't want a trial. They can't have a trial because they know if they put literally if they put trump on the stand if they put any of his administration on the stand if they put all the people who refused to testify before the house illegally ignoring the subpoenas if they put them on the stand rudy. Giuliani on the stand. Others They know that it will reveal that not only. was there a quid. It pro quo with Ukraine but that they are deeply dishonest. People trump who has now told according to the Washington Post lied tracker. Nearly fifteen thousand lies. I can hardly fathom just since he's been in office. He is literally the the most dishonest person ever measured and And many experts historians believe trump may very well be the most dishonest public figure in the history of the world. That's how fundamentally dishonest he is and so he can't testify Fi. He couldn't get through an hour of hard questions because they know that it would be deeply problematic and so the articles of impeachment have been approved. It will go to a full vote before the house probably early next week. I don't think it'll happen today or tomorrow over the weekend. It's probably going to happen next week. And my guess is that almost every Democrat will vote for impeachment Schmidt and I believe every Republican will vote against bring bring bring bring bring this. I've gotTA RUN ON. You want to tell you that. We are working behind the scenes on so many things a brand new website for the Northstar brand new the phone APP a brand new android APP. My wife Ray and I are working on a brand new podcast called marriage movement will working on multiple additional podcast We're working on a video news show as well and we just have so many great things in the works. We'll take a quick moment force to thank all of you for your support. Support this podcast please. If you have not already done so please leave a review. Please subscribe keep listening. Keep sharing our audience continues to grow. And we're so so grateful for your support and before thank you. So much to our associate producer and Sandra and our senior producer Willis for their hard work on this and every every episode

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San Diego Chaos and Oh Yeah the Reunion!!!

Brandi Glanville Unfiltered

27:36 min | 2 years ago

San Diego Chaos and Oh Yeah the Reunion!!!

"Strut Media Hey guys so today's pod is going to be a little bit short because we had a guest cancel and I- legit know that she six so yes I'm okay with that. She will come back but so so what are we going to do and we scrambled this together. Just a little some some something from Straw media this rain Glenn Bill on take love to bring unfiltered. I'm here with my friend kissed by Nicholas. Hey Girl Hey. Hey how was your weekend. Mine was good. I'm just in the middle of moving and now you're moving to I I don't like because you're leaving me. I make a bad name for it like I have at Cala Bastard and chats worthless so I came up one and with Renfrew Burbank Okay Burbank burp. I Love Burbank. 'cause you're leaving well. I have to move because I feel like I'm living in an apartment that I lived in with my ex so oh there's too many memories. You need it to create rush star changing the conversation yes and a fresh start. That's good you know what I I. I wasn't able to move right away. Painted walls took pictures down and move the furniture just to create the new environment you yeah there's others every single thing remind you of your ax. You don't WanNa sleep in a bed. He slept in with someone for four years. It's just a weird speaking of that. <hes> the devil came by this morning to get his dad's beads and I wasn't here to explain who the devil is. We talked about him before so he's my fuck boy that like for three years I I love him but I can't have a third child because like I can't take care of grown now so I had to let him go oh but he left me his dad's beads like I'll be back. It's kind of romantic but they were annoying me in my bedroom a right as I put them in the kitchen and I showed Mason. I don't even know why I showed Mason. I'm like randomly showed him where he put the beads needs and he this today. Oh Yeah Debra came by and I'm like why it's like to get his beat them like you didn't you didn't get you. Don't get your and give them to write. He's like yeah you shared me and then it was eleven eleven and I have an issue with the levins and I was like everything happens for signed because you did show him. I know every day show him he would have come in and said where my beads and what if I was here and then we would have we would have sex. That's the problem so it was meant to be that you did not exactly that sort of thinking so like I wasn't here. I was in traffic for two and a half hours and then I decided to have been a bad last sex or maybe just trying to put things into the he's got a good nick. <hes> you know good Dick Man isn't that that's not a song but we should make one. He's a good man earn. I'm okay so you want to hear about my weekend. Yes what did you in San Diego with von Parague dog with James Okay so I I feel like we might have scarred him for life because I stopped at his place and my best friend and her husband came over and we got violin like turn are at a twenty bottles of Tequila. We don't have drinker no not really so. He's like he was like we were all turned up but the next day it was like he was supposed to. We're going to hang out. WE'RE GONNA go to branch and he was hurting excellent professional. I could hurt anymore. Go all week and then we were going to go to this thing together on Monday. He was going to be my date and he counselled that so I don't know if he hates me or if you just like I can't hang but it was a beautiful home and on I like very serene and gorgeous and he has like a second job as a landscape artist. Now he's like he knows the name of every plant and I liked it but something only rich people know so he the plan. I don't know anything either really well. I mean I know I don't know like a firm. I know what a first name Oh now R._I._p.. For my grandma still alive hi Hazel Lobue was a bad bitch. So I am Hazel her. You have no idea to black Irish and she will fuck you up all right so yes San Diego. I we ruined pretty much James James's life life Yup. I'm still in recovery first and then the second day we just like we chilled and like we did branch in for like fun days Sunday. Whatever an a Monday we went to the opening of this restaurant <hes> with the media group with Zaida <hes> Curry and friends and we all just kind of met my friends from San Jose came in San Jose that hate when I say San Jose from <hes> Half Moon Bay San Jose or half Moon Bay yeah well sounds rich exactly so yeah so they came and we we all got lost our minds? I had a boyfriend on the dance floor for a minute and then I don't know what happened. I think I you know <unk>. I lost a little bit too drunk by Masonry doing but yeah. No I had a great it was great. I just feel like I'm I'm worried for. Jane's and I hope that we're still friends. You should text him. I'm scared you. Oh Hey giants for baby. Are That's Mason. He's just walking through burn the podcast food. I just got groceries. There's tons of food right there and you just brought down food right right. A growing just went out and waited off this guy growing. I just gave him a whole breakfast bowl and he's just growing five minutes. I didn't need to bring it down. I just love you. I love you. I worry about you. I want to make sure you're getting enough. Food needs a lot of food how much food these people eat like I'm talking between him and Jake. I spend I'm probably a thousand dollars a week on food as a hundred on myself because you eat at Jack in the box deal baby dollar ninety nine. I'm not mad at it. I'm just saying like if it was just me I would probably just eat out because I don't like to cook for myself. One person I love for one person and so I would probably be like I mean I like fancier places but I also like I always say bipolar. You Know Jack in the box. The last time I saw you went to Casey after after our SPA Day you went to k._f._C. so yeah made that popcorn chicken American is oh and Florida in the fridge after you buy. It gets even crispier the next day when it's cold. I love that hack you can also take home and bake it. Why would you do that to somebody? Get a little crispier now. What if you ask them to do it? Well done perfect the way it is. I just like the next at the two equally I like them. I like that both in two largest and one large Coleslaw and that's it and I'm good for the whole day yeah. That's what I do Jack in the box. Two tacos might chicken sandwich fries. Yeah you're pig and yes look that and eat like that. I just got two tacos and you went for it. I know well the little girl she's she's a star that line wow she's stupidly pretty was interrupted by a nine to ten. Maybe seven kids yeah. She just came in. She got the ranch she took your fries. Drink off my my soda with the Straw Trauma. I don't really feel that great. She was a little star. She ran US yeah. We were bitches on her son. Yeah like you're in trouble to her mom so yeah and she's like I know so I'm just so glad. I don't have girls because she's so pretty. It's just it's scary for me. No no no yeah Kelsey when she gets in high school no okay so we have another issue to talk about and that is that my son is going to basketball camp nine to three everyday and it's and we're in the ghetto. There's a drive-by happening right now in run hitting right well hopefully. I don't think that they the sirens out for a hit and run. I have no idea well if someone gets hit by a car per. Like I just a car while that's aggressive a very dry by hopefully not. I don't want anyone to be hurt but that was just I haven't heard sirens like that but there is a fire station down the street so I guess are you go <hes> what was Oh so he's at basketball camp. You know every day right and we he signed up because it's Kobe Bryant Basketball Camp Right. This is his third week. He hasn't fucking seeing Kobe. Could we were the fuck are are you if you're good at basketball. Camp called Kobe Bryant's basketball camp. You should go there social because it's probably a lot of money but there's a lot of money and there's a lot of kids teaching teaching my kids like they're growing like high school kids teaching my son but he wanted to go because because Kobe Bryant was going to be there if you're gonNA pay for Kobe Bryant camp. Maybe they're exactly I WANNA ball signed it yeah and so I have an issue is coby. So how long is it the issue the whole camp camp that my issue is your list of issues. We don't have time for it is too weren't this week and then next week but if Kobe for the baby there on the last you better be there if I'm about to go off on social media about attack your ass Nar would not do that but I in the past. I've been known to do that. I've I've grown. I don't do twitter Roy's anymore really no. I haven't seen one in Woah. No maybe it's time today. I know I've I'm my brain is so much more at peace not being on social media so much and I know I need to do more on Instagram but I've yet twenty five <hes> the twitter I is Super Eve. I was just talking about one of my friends and it really is. It's the the ground zero for haters. It's just like hatred nation is it's so bad we'll see I feel like you could be a little more interactive on instagram without seeing seeing all about how you could because you don't really have to read the messages you could just post what you post but I feel like on twitter like after your post you can kind of see everything I don't read yeah using. I was like wait what conversation on my end. I'm confused so it wasn't good all right. We're GONNA take a break be right. 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If someone cheated on your Bachelor Party like most men do yeah no yeah which is pretty fucking scary. I got like the four one line about what happened on my ex's bachelor party and it wasn't good but I got after. I got a divorce so it's fine but I just I don't believe in Bachelor parties. I think that they are wrong in every way that they kind of encourage you to cheat. They encourage you to go out and get wasted and exactly and be around women because it's your last time as a single man and I just feel like it's just a dated idea and I feel like it's just not right and if you WANNA have a party together because you are getting married like if if my husband went are the guy's GonNa marry went to Miami and shagged add some chick I would not marry him would like. I'm sorry it was just a kiss you well. I would not marry him now. Not Ever it's just I just think it's old fashioned and I think it's lame thing yeah. I kind of feel like I still would marry them just because so maybe because I am a guy I think guys think of sex a little less emotional and I think most guys it's like if you have to commit to someone for the rest of your life. Guys always think like you had if what if what you're choosing your right true but I think guys always think like what if what if what if and let's declare marriages don't last forever no in the success rate is pretty fucking low so not so maybe on years do mine probably wouldn't I don't know. I don't know if I really believe in marriage anyways. I don't really so our bachelor parties. No Brian is our producers age. Why are you having a Bachelor Party? Okay proper pricing. I Dunno if someone told me I think I would maybe give a pass. Maybe just because I think it's like their one last. I don't know I'm not very emotional could listen you wouldn't like obsess on it would be like how'd you meet her and just go over and over and over over in my head because I go I go to criticize maybe if there was communication about it like if they first of all I would want the person to be less hot than me. That would make a huge difference if the person withdrawal if the person was hotter. I don't know that might be more of an issue which is just the obviously fucked up way of thinking of it but I just I think that you're young and dumb dumb and full of yes exactly <hes> no. I think you're naive not dumb. Obviously you're not done. <hes> I just think that you know your relationship person and also a lot of my friends that are gay. They have more of an open relationship number Hud. Though most of my friends are couples they have that because you know men are known to be more promiscuous and there's two men so it is what it is actually much us on. It's a lot because I think we don't think of we just don't think of sex that way like it's not an emotion guys can do it. How girls more on the other hand will some girls can do it without carrying two more girls? It's hard for them to not have an emotional attachment. I sure I mean guys. It's like but if you flipped it if a girl cheated on the Bachelor Party a guy would they would not know guy. I don't think would marry the girl still unless the girl was absolutely like the hottest person ever and he was like not or something yeah guys are very territorial and job. I would never be able to get that out of their mind. No no nothing could roll most women would be more forgiving living and I think a lot of girls. I know nope what maybe not you know. Would I don't know I think you're our W.. R. O. N. G. At his maybe now maybe not so much. Maybe I feel girls. Maybe are now having more of like say with men I think before like women would have like I think of family members and stuff and I think barefoot and pregnant right now but now women are like no they need to know I think a woman I personally because guys perspective. I think I would probably stay because I'm dating a guy and I just know that men don't but if I was a woman I don't think I would say I don't know I definitely wouldn't be staying at all. If if I knew what I knew like now that I know what went down and I know some of the friends husbands that also cheated the I will never say and they're not friends anymore so it's fine <hes> but it is the fog to it's cheating. I would never be okay with it but a lot of guys do it. That's why it's so crazy 'cause vary but it's encouraged the Bachelor Party. What do you do just say like no Bachelor Party for you yeah? I said I mean listen. I fought with about it so I don't know. Did he go out of state. They went to Vegas <hes> Yup Yup. 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Porfirio Rubirosa (Entry 1087.1K1210)

Omnibus! With Ken Jennings and John Roderick

59:10 min | 1 year ago

Porfirio Rubirosa (Entry 1087.1K1210)

"This yeah we are Jennings and John Rodrick we speak to you from our present which we can only assume as your distant past the turbulent time that was the early twenty I singer during the great cataclysm that will surely befall our civilization we began this monumental reference of strange obscure human knowledge. These recordings represent our or attempt to compile and preserve wonders esoterica. That would otherwise be lost. So whether you're listening from an advanced civilization or have just reinvented the technology to decrypt our transmissions. This is our legacy to you. This is our time capsule. This is the on the bus. You have accessed entry. One zero eight seven dot one K.. One two one zero certificate number four one zero zero three ferial Rubio's. His legend precedes him. The way lightning proceeds thunder. He is the most interesting man in the world. Robotics very nice. I'm sure trial real very good. But I can't can't say you can't say something like that without. Yeah not doing it like an Antonio Bandera. If you just want to sit there and be like Roosa- roosa- Porfirio Rube arrose. I always think of what does that. From oh Richard. Mark in the old murder on the Orient Express never says never tried to save poirots name right. He's always like Mister Perot. Ross Perot Mister Perot. I need you to guard my train Kinda like that. You're going to turn into why guy that doesn't try to. Let's say for the opposite of that I know. Do you remember last year when Quincy Jones. Music Legend Quincy Jones started given those weird interviews to everybody. Yes super crazy takedown interviews. Where he was like Michael Jackson was a fraud? He said things like I know who killed Kennedy. He he said I was there. When Marlon Brando had sex with Richard Pryor Talked about how the Beatles I need to go back and read these interviews. uh-huh I'm intrigue. He's sort of a role model for me. Well he said the Beatles were all bad musicians right. I remember that might be a deal killer for you. Know th th there. There are differing opinions on that. I think he's very super duper wrong. But he's Quincy Jones. He's entitled to. I know exactly it does it. Your Quincy Jones. Eighty the governor's off the mouth. Right you can say whatever and you've got stories in particular. I mean they're all kinds of if you go on the guitar player forums. There are so many people that are like Kurt. COBAIN was terrible musician. It's like yeah. Okay Steve vise a good musician but who would rather like actually drove spend a weekend with absolutely Steve Vai but well especially today true flood. It's too dark couch. Unless you're P towns leaving those comments I think you should leave well enough alone you know. Yeah you know one name that dropped in those interviews that the probably did not make the headlines was the man that Quincy Jones were rumored as the king of the playboys. He remembered his time. I spent nightclub hopping with dawn portfolio. Ruby Raw. He's the world's most interesting man. He is in effect the most interesting a man in the world. There's there's ever been a real life analog of the kind of Suave Latino Guy we've seen commercials who has seen it done everything it would be in the Mid Twentieth Century Playboy man about town Porfirio Rubio saw quite sounds like my kind of guy I think you you guys have a lot in common Quincy Jones remembered him in the interview this is this is the eighth word summer he gives in the interview. Amazing man what a guy eleven inch. Well it's about time we did a show like this. You don't want to be too delicate because I know the future. Lynx may have they may be theory may be sentient. I my guess they would have little patience for our obsession with like flesh. Lee matters like there there are a higher sort of see what you're saying. And perhaps they're listening with their the`real a UH be children sure they're gonNA have to cover their their gases right but we I mean we're famously A show that doesn't do very many any swears. But we do talk about matters of the flesh when they're unavoidably attached to history as they often are right and it's really. It's really hard to divorce. How many kinds three or four primal urges humankind why not sure from from although the wars and treaties and social movements and trends? Is that followed right. If you like our cereal like progeny. Are they probably laugh at all of our endeavors because all we do is make war and Rut and every once in a while. Somebody Co writes a good melody. I mean they probably just think of Porfirio Rivera the way we do. And we like the way we snicker when we hear some scientists theory about how dinosaurs did it right they did. Yeah you know what. I'm what I'm GonNa love about this episode. Most is all hearing all of your Mormon euphemisms for sex. I'm a freelancer. We did not invent did did it. Nobody ever said doing it before the Mormons were like. But I haven't heard Hamson pork boiling. See why are they come. The eighteen comedies. These are these are not from sort out. From Sundays I hate to the quincy. Jones's memories of Porfirio appear to be They were no secret at the time. I guess like his his his fantastic physical attributes were were well known at the time. Milton Berle exactly famously endowed. Yeah and didn't mind showing pretty much much all the things that. Although depraved things that Middle America thought were happening in the entertainment industry. Were actually happening. Isn't that amazing. During this time when everybody else was I was going to church and had to like you know you couldn't say a piano had legs because that would be to say stilts or something like people on the Coast Milton Berle really it was just unzipping at Sardis. Yeah showing everybody. You know my mom when I talked. Because she was so contemporary of of that whole time and when I talked to her about the rat pack and that Vegas seen the show business at the time she says like Nice. People didn't like that music. That was that that's culture. That now seems to stand in for your early sixty S. She's like those were gangsters and they were that was gangster stir culture. And if you liked it you were it was. It was low brow. That is so funny it plays now. Is this like swath of pretty much scooby. Dooby Doo is that even even true wants Kennedy isn't the White House and like all. These people are actively American diplomatic. Yeah it was really. I mean as far as she was concerned it was a day classic culture and Kennedy was slumming for reasons of his own but she was like all of them. You know. Even Sammy Davis. She was like he's a gangster. They're they're they're performing for gangsters lose its gangster money and it's it's it's it's gangster music which obviously has a little bit of like anti Italian talion overtones to her ideas right or her cultural ideas. Italians want us to make Nigga stop telling gangster jokes. I need to stop hearing the Godfather theme. Every time I go into a pizza like every time I go some place to eat Tortellini. I'm going to here then. I the Italian anti-defamation League cannot say it. It's funny though when she describes growing up in Ohio in the thirties yes she said you know we didn't really have there. Were no black people in her part of Ohio Western. Ohio and there were no Jews so all of our racism was directed. Catholics Right Catholic relief on Sammy Davis first appeared on the scene. Could broaden her scope. Well she was she. She was liberally minded but But yeah interesting to think that there was even in the late sixties there still would have been an intact Italian or Latin culture. I I don't know if bureaucracy was intact. Sorry I'm just a little boy. History is killer does not relate kicks to the spleen. These remarks Sinatra did hang Hang out with Sinatra and the rat pack guys. He apparently taught. Sammy Davis how to kiss a woman's hand in his patented Latin manner was he was. He An aristocrat kind of but look. Let's let's get into his origin story. Sinatra this story about Sinatra's Sinatra asking him Ruby. Everybody called him Ruby really. Why don't you have a job like what are you? What do you do for a living? And he said women are living he. He considered romancing the best and the brightest of the Western Hemisphere His full-time job and Quincy Jones's memories. Stories of his anatomy are backed up by trimming capote of all people in his memoirs and His nickname in Paris apparently was to choose your pret- always always ready the motto of the Coast Guard. You can interpret that as literally as you want. But he was. He was good to go under. Under any circumstances Arkham stances leave on women on my leaving and the women can the women the list of the women pretty much is the list the list you would making your head. Ava Gardner Jayne Mansfield old for Annika Lake Marilyn Monroe Rita Hayworth Joan Crawford. Judy Garland if there was any garland. I just walked the Judy Bio uh-huh pick and it's all about her last marriage to this kind of twenty eight year. Old Sketchy Entrepreneur Guy but the funny thing is the movies very Shaya about it like it really doesn't want us to imagine older woman and a younger man even now after fifty years of of movies of you know seventy year old men with Catherine Zeta Jones right like it really thinks we're going to be a little squeamish. Different Izzo Egger and are a little too passionate in their hotel room anyway. I Judy Garland had no problem with with a younger trade. Younger Classic Guy and Ruby was just apparently a genius. Josh Gabor would come back and find her Hotels filled with flowers. And a note that said you are the most beautiful woman in the world you know signed signed signed portfolios minister plenipotentiary of the Dominican Republic. Oh so he was a Dominican diplomatic. He was he was a macho. He kind of created the Macho archetype of the swamp. Latin man that has persisted to this day. Did he talk. Like Antonio Antonio Banderas are we. Are we going to do his voice as Antonio Bandera absolutely going to do is just kind of doing Ricardo Montalban okay. That's a good one but I'm GonNa absolutely say Yes he did. Are we okay with that. He was apparently not like the hottest young guy on the dance floor but he was just very gallant. Always had one red rose. You know we dance with the same woman all night just looking into her eyes like she was the entire universe right right and he just had the knack and as his he was not lying on his on his business cards. He was a diplomat career but it was really just a way to hang out in Paris. He didn't actually do any diplomacy it turns out so how did he. How did he rise is to this station? Is this a story where he was born born in rags and and this is all a sham or does he come from a To see come from Spanish as some Spanish line of very important piece. He was middle class in the Dominican Republic and is line to power goes through a rough ultra hero oh the feared and fearsome dictator of the Dominican Republic from the thirties. All the way into the early sixties Steve probably one of the worst people on the planet at the time. Right and we'll we'll get into that a little later but it's entree into European society. It's amazing how much a dictator dictator can level a class system. And just sort of. You're the guy that didn't pick up the phone administered minister to Berlin relations. No that is absolutely what happened with with With kind of a sexual overtone that we will see in a moment. I liked him. He as you would not be surprised to hear Ruby kind of slept his way to the bottom down the middle then the top was he bisexual. I don't think there's any any evidence of that although we're recording this the same week Scotty. bowers died kind of the legendary Hollywood. I don't even know what this job is called hauled. I don't WanNa say pimp philosopher the guy the guy you would call if you were Spencer Tracy and cary grant. I wanted everyone to think straight but wanted to meet nice discreet. Young men man. Oh I see but you don't WanNa say pimp. No because he was just he was a broke. You're putting people together here. What do you call somebody who makes relationships like that? He was a Maven a mentor. Yes West Hollywood. That's exactly actually right. And Not strictly for the game although that's although those are all the most scandalous stuff in the memoirs so You know at this time. All the most dapper masculine men on the planet had no no problem experimenting on the side. Apparently Middle America was right about that. It wasn't just Marlon Brando and James Baldwin and Richard Pryor in a threesome or or whatever but most of his attention appeared to be on the ladies as a he After a brief falling out with Trujillo he wound up kinda stuck in Paris with no source of income. And that's when he can't go home. The worst we're staying about being a playboy is to end up somewhere with no source of in. There really appears to have been very formative for him because he really shapes what he spends the next decade of his life to during the period kind of around the beginning of World War Two because he had no source of income he would sell Dominican. Visas has to Jews trying to get out of Europe. So he's like basically what if Oscar Schindler just wanted to drink and play Polo all day. You Know Oh right so so it was. There was a profit motive. He found a market. That was that was like not being exploited right and and and he. He wasn't fussy about whose visas stamped. And was that did that result in a in a Jewish community in the data. Must I wonder if I assume that was just a stopping onto their. They were all in Miami by the end of the week on her her or heaven or something. I don't know it would be interesting if there is still some lively synagogue in Santo Domingo from the early trio but I don't think so or to trace to trace some expatriate population that that remained somewhat intact. Yeah all came through this one fixer Ruby Rosa's list imagine imagine all these all these elderly Jewish folks and their multi generational descendants standing in front of some you no grave at Peres with picture of a Ferrari on it when it comes to meet. Quality makes a huge difference Brinson texture and taste and even though it might be better for you and the environment a lot of the higher quality meat you find at. The grocery store is just too expensive for most the people's budget thankfully there's butcher box which are box believes everyone deserves access to high-quality humanely sourced. Meet at an affordable price. That's why each month which are box ships. A curated selection of the finest cuts right to your home. 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The Spaniard wanted to make sure his jewels came with him. And so Rubio says Porfirio said go to Madrid and check it out and he comes back and says he APP sorry. You're you're store was ransacked. I got shot out. The jewels are all gone. The really they were they were all safely. There you got shot at your car seems fine. Yeah see I'm going. What are you going to do he would he just runs back to the shop? took hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of jewels a burglar to finance. Yes he's a burglar. During the war he marries in fact Francis biggest movie star. This kind of his social climbing begins. Danielle Dr You. She was a Nazi sympathizer. Okay it turned out. She was super excited about the invasion charter and As a result she was like Shiva and all these other people that agreed to perform. I'm for the occupiers. During the war played Sun City. Yes exactly they played the stage to Sola so he had to get it out of Paris fraud but he spent most of the gentleman farmer on Danielle Dr Use estate outside of Paris but he liked the idol life and when the war ended he decided he wanted as much as possible Wouldn't you pretty formative experience right laying around in a movie stars. Collaboration L- Movie Movie Stars House. So after the fair with Dr you goes wrong. `rational what am I talking about good. That's I'm sure that's the word cake all these collaboration natinalists with their collaboration list ism he after the war. He doesn't seem to stay with these women for that long the the appeal of him as a lover. Apparently Paul's at some point sure. I mean not to not to reveal too much knowledge but and if we are going with the measurement here of an of an eleven inch member as we say endowment I I feel like That seems impressive. Like at at first blush like Wow holy Somalians but famous express. I bet it it. It gets Kinda tiresome pretty fast because it's because that would that would be a be abnormally large. It would not be probably like especially useful foil. Paul Yeah I can only imagine. It's a novelty rather than a rather than practical instruments when we bought our house. Our House is kind of a a lovely view of the cascade. Mountains many homes in the Seattle area do and I just thought I will just stare at this all day. Like this is like nothing I've ever seen before what A delight this will be in my life to have this beautiful mountain panorama. But guess what every time you open the curtains. It looks exactly the same and eventually it's just not as exciting as it was the first time it really just kind of blends into the background. This is part of the house. There's mountains outside it you're brilliant. Million Dollar view of the mountains is the eleven inch of this analogy. The listing certainly see. That's what I that's what I that's what I put in listening. Oh of course right if you're going to sell the house it's the first thing you say about it right but but you don't WanNa tell the people right you're not going to sit and stare because it looks. It looks the same every every night did you get. Did you get the sense. That rubel Rosa left all of his paramore's happy or did he were was there bitterness in in in his trail there appears to be a little bit of both. He apparently hit Josh Gabor like she would show up with a I patrick dark glasses or something. So he's he's he's the the fiery awful misogynist of his time but and yet she spoke very fondly of him like everybody remembers their time with him very well. But here's what's remarkable about his womanizing in the in the late forties early fifties. He Mary's in a row the two richest women in the world to either billionaires or future billionaires billionaire asus Sure the I hate to gender. I HATE TO GENDER BILLIONAIRE billionaire. Who is well? We'll go if billionaire asus is a nice is a nice coinage in nineteen forty seven. He married Doris Duke. Luke sure the heir to the Duke Tobacco Fortune Duke University Bears the name of the Lucky Strike Fortune and she was at the time. I'm the richest woman in the world. She was and Cure Walmart though the walmart daughter right before before for Sam Walton split all his money and made made eight women. The one three eight richest people on the planet like apparently at the time the Doris Duke died in nineteen ninety any three. There were only two photos by her bedside and one of them was Porfirio Rubio Sir like she still had fond memories of her years with Ruby and the other one was Bert from sesame street. It was so weird birds. Why did you never love me? I don't know she from the Carolinas so so they spend most of their years together. He was posted to Argentina and But you know but he. He goes to Argentina to see what's up with the centre-right dictatorship there and of course ends up sleeping with Eva Peron and the whole time so he doesn't seem like a great guy to be married to. He's a real gump Dorsey kind of a pretty society girl at the time but you know it. It was commented on at the time that he was marrying kind of you know she. She wasn't Ava Gardner Rita Hayworth like but he was just delighted that she had had a billion dollars and I mean and there's no place. More like mid-century glamorous than Bouynzahra Buenos sure glamorous in a way that it's still pretty mid-century Glamorous Hawaiian boulevards and I guess he was not in love with despite the attractions of Evita he would just spend much time in. He'd get posted to Havana or wherever he would just spend as much time as he could in Paris where he knew he knew all the night clubs and he knew everybody. The marriage to doors only lasted a few years. She made him sign a pre-nup but even once they split up he got all the stuff he got the Polo ponies and the the the Peloponnese and the the three story Hohmann Peres planes and whatnot so she must have had some fond memories. Sure she you know. She kicked him down. Two percent. The of the interest payments on her on her property in Nineteen fifty-three he married his second. Richest woman in the World Barbara Hutton. air has she. She come up. I believe she's coming up for air to the Woolworth and You know famously. We should do a show on these poor little rituals of the Mid Twentieth Century. You might great uncle all married. The heiress of the Buster Brown Shoe Fortune in the nineteen twenty s nineteen thirties and lived in a giant House on in Connecticut on the water That was like the Buster Brown House. And how's the buster ester built and. He sat there in a giant chair as though he had made all that money and sent really really preachy letters to my grandmother telling her she was I screwing up Barbara. Hutton had been a beautiful woman. She was married to Kari Grant but she was. Now I think in our forties well that's a death knell. Nell gave orders. Well she had already been married to Kari grant and three European nobleman named Ebor or something as well as the style Sir as you would expect. She flitted from husband was when she was kind of the sadder but wiser girl pornography apparent. You know she had such a great time dancing etc within that she just said you married Doris us now. It's my turn. Oh wow she was happy to inherit him and at this her fifth wedding she wore a black wedding dress. Got Married at the Dominican Embassy. She she was holding a Scotch and soda as she walked down. The aisle which to me is the ultimate come on our moves. curdle is fire. And you know this marriage really didn't last any any longer but it was. It was the same kind of thing where you know. He left it with. He inherited yet another airplane from her. He winds up with two B twenty five bomber. That's genius one from each marriage marriage. That's genius that have been kitted out as like limousine. Have you never thought of marrying a woman for her. Be Twenty Five. The number of heiresses who have be twenty I. Five is a lot lower now than it was in nineteen fifty two. I'm betting you have to wait for the first crop of Seattle billionaires to have a little rich girl autres if If Paul Allen had had any children they would be they would have plenty of World War Two vintage aircraft at their disposal but he fortunately or unfortunately died without Siro. Speaking of what's Ruby was sterile as well which was another big perk really need pre free birth control era. Yes how did how is that determined just by me reading an article about it. I mean I guess I I. I always assume in a in a period like that that someone's sterility would be established by them attempting to have children with their spouse over the course of many years and then going into the doctor and say what's wrong with me whereas someone who's just playboy gallivanting from place to place he has no idea how many the trail of abortions he's leaving in his wake. Yeah for the forty fifth president of the United States it never occurs to him to It never occurs to go to the doctor and go you know I should have got at least one of these girls pregnant. It may have been knowledge from his first marriage which we'll get to in a moment kind of glided over for dramatic purposes but And they have also just been literally the thousands thousands of women that he was sleeping with kind of he. Figured it out Interesting maybe it was a hemingway esque or injury to imagine that yeah. Let's say well I don't know did. He doesn't sound like he experienced against any war injuries. He did experience very little war. But he wasn't adventurer Harold Robbins based on a kind of Latin adventure lethargic character as on him. Apparently there's a school of thought that he may have been a very close inspiration for James Bond. Really Ian Fleming's Carribean connection. You know spending all his time on Jamaica Right Golden Jamaica. Yeah I think so You meant he hung out with all these people who would have been in Ruby Circle Aero Flan and Noel Coward and and And Ruby was very much a bond Ian figure you know hanging out you know he would get up every day and play Polo Israel passionate in the morning but then as soon as polo while I was over it was just scotch for the rest of the day and scotching gambling. was there any sense that he was in espionage. Did he do like. was there. Tradecraft in store there is going to be the hint of trade crown. Coming up exciting So I don't know if that's what inspired those rumors were out there so that may any of inspired Fleming. But we're talking about like white flannel adventuring. We're not talking about. He didn't go into the jungle on. Discover a new kind of butterfly. He searched for sunken treasure in the Caribbean in nineteen fifty two. He had the two fifty two bomber. It'd be twenty-five bombers. Obviously I am dyslexic about these bombers by Pilot he turned the this is adventuring. At home he turned the third floor of the house he had inherited from Doris. Duke he got rid of the servant's quarters and put in a full bar in a boxing ring. A boxing matches at night after the after. Jimmy Cisco closed Does seem pretty pretty continental he raced Ferraris Ariz at lemond twice. He was he was on the twenty four hour as Lamont twice. He was a fast and dangerous driver. which will also plan to historic? So I think Fleming maybe responding rounding more to his just glamorous womanizing devil-may-care lifestyle than anything else. Do you in in in following a story worry like this in meeting someone like Like poor few furio portfolio don portfolio on video. Does it cause you to question question your own life and how few times you've been to Paris and how how how little of this kind of wanton adventure you've had because I've never played polo in the morning. Once not a single time I just feel L. Like I would be a bad fit for the idleness of it. Refer the hanging out with no clear purpose. Yeah I mean. I have fond memories of doing that in in college. Long Nights of risk or Mario Kart or pizza or whatever and just shooting the bull which nobody you've got to get get up in and do some work right. Like and I guess he did have a schedule Polo then Scotch. And then he would say around in the mid afternoon he would start to feel what he what he called. The Petit Cross shown the little pig it is brain would start to wake up when you know like he would feel he would start to feel the urge drawing him to to the nightlife. But I just feel like I feel guilty. I feel kind of guilty when I go to a movie. During the day I feel like Close to don draper. I ever get like do you think you could do it to be an international playboy like you said you sit in bathtubs a lot. Yeah I think think I would be. I think that'd be pretty good at it. You know I've always felt like my dad acted like Like he was was the sign of a wealthy and fallen sort of family of former aristocrats. Who whose name was still still? The name still was the passport. Although there wasn't any money behind it by the time that mentality got to me I no longer even felt like the name had any CACHET but I still you know I walk into a room in assume always that I'm welcome and I. I have friends that comment on the first thing I noticed about you that I that I seem in any room. You're just just like hey and that so I've always felt like I belonged in this somewhat this life but I also believe that if I had at had access to it and I would have been a bad person and I don't you know we could. We could look at Porfirio and and judge whether or not we think he's a good person person but I feel like it would have would have made my heart different thing if I had if I had had the wealth to to go through life with no consequences think about those John. Those stories John Mullany tells about watching Mick Jagger at SNL and how he's just a guy who for fifty years has been able to say eh diet coke and a diet coke appears in his hand he just says it to the room. He doesn't direct anyone and a diet. Coke will just appear and he knows that will happen. Imagine what that would do to your your soul. I heard a story about Keith Richards that he was at somebody's you know. He was invited to someone's beautiful home in somewhere in the Carolinas. For for whatever whatever reason I don't remember what it was and he just through he was to walk into the house like Nice Nautilus and took a drag a cigarette and just threw it on the carpet. GIVE WALK CASINOS NO I. It was just like nobody will tell me no and then at some point it's just like he doesn't even think no one has ever told me no it doesn't even matter. Yes it's it's just the corrosive effect of money and cocooning like that. I Guess Yeah So. Let's let's here. I want to hear his his fall fall here so I was thinking if I was in international playboy I would be. I would be the kind that's using it as cover. Yeah well that's the super busy being Bruce Wayne if you were if you were up to something right if you were carrying diplomatic pouches or you were working on behalf of a shadowy agency than if I'm repatriating stolen colon antiquities. Yeah exactly you can do all this James Bond stuff and feel like you're year doing good in the world but it's not right to have sex AVA Gardner. I'm sorry sorry. Look I don't want this. I had to establish my cover. It was had to do and I felt bad about it and that there's some suggestion that this may may have been true of a Rubia Rosa as well. his connection with Trujillo Trujillo took power in Round one thousand nine hundred thirty. Some ineffectual Dominican President got pushed out of the way for Trujillo who who had been trained by with and by. US Marines is ironically her. That's how that's how it works. We don't usually have too many scruples about that kind of thing he didn't seem like a Marxist so yeah let him do whatever he he wants and he was awful he was a Caesar of the Caribbean Andrea was his and and he chose Rubio says a protege it just kind of picked him out of the military and and what soured their relationship briefly it was the Rubio so just was unable to control himself and wound up an affair affair with Trujillo's daughter. Oh Florida auto flower of Golden Flower and so for a while through this unforgivable things for here it was gonna be the guy killed and finally maybe floor throws herself at her father's feet. No Papa Papa. They they all speak English with one another accents. And he ends up reconciling with underhill sends them to well he sends the couple to Hitler's Berlin. I post and from their parents which you know where Rubio versus like a coach shown in in maared but Trujillo kind of comes around on him at one point. Trujillo visits Paris and Ruby shows a good time takes into the Eiffel Tower. He apparently like beds somewhere in the restaurant of the Eiffel Tower or something enter enter heels. Like oh you're not wrong Peres. Great and he decides that that the bureau is his guy he says. He's an excellent diplomat because women like him and because he's a liar and the other thing that saves him is his friendship with Trujillo son and eventual successor rumpus trio. Who if it's possible to be more of a psychopath and his father? It's always true right if you're raised by somebody like Keith Richards or Rafael Trujillo or donald trump. Or whatever like you're just going to via a bad clone of it right a bad clone just you hope that That the sociopath passes on his his worst genes means like in the case of the trump sons. You get the feeling that that their combined intelligence wouldn't allow them to get out of of a of love puzzle room the Fifth Generation Michael Keaton multiplicity copies. Just getting worse and worse But a rump Easter heroes legitimately terrible like the F. B. I.. File on file on says that as a kid he would just cut off chickens heads for shoot rifle. Shoot guns chickens heads for fun advocate chickens with a revolver typical trait of serial killer stuff and so like by the time of adolescence. He's he's just. I gang raping everything as far as I can see. And then later when he's given some power Even worse if that's possible he kind of heads up all the torture and murder that follows the unsuccessful fifty-nine uprising and his dad and then once he takes once Trujillo falls out of favor and is eventually killed in sixty. He won He again tortures and murders just literally thousands of people to try to consolidate power. So he's awful but he's also a playboy. He's he's also flying around the world bedding Kim Novak and driving fast cars and so he and ruby become fast friends and that's kind of what saves saves Re Rosa with trio after the marriage to floor ends and he starts marrying movie stars and heiresses. Oh so he didn't lose somehow flora stayed on his. He stayed on her good side or because he was friends with her brother. It didn't no matter whether she was happier. I think I think both I think she. I guess everybody forgives the Sky Weirdest things about his story. He's a liar he's Lumina love him and he's a liar. The thing about the Trujillo regime is that they were not shy about committing crimes and atrocities not just on the island of Hispaniola. Daniela would love to just the killing. Ten Thousand Haitians was nothing to them but they would also do crimes on foreign soil. Trujillo tried to kill the president of Venezuela at one point the most famous case in nineteen fifty six. There was a Basque international law. Professor named Hey Seuss Galindo's who has written extensively on Trujillo's crimes and atrocities and he just disappeared from a subway station of fifty seventh street in New York while he was teaching her Columbia. The Guy Just Trujillo just had a guy disappeared from midtown basically Jimmy Hoffa story all over again basically. Except he's sending foreign agents to do it And End Ruby was always rumored in the tabloids to have connections to these awful exploits the tabloid said things about him one because he's a he was always described his nut brown. He's a dusky creole type from the racially. Indeterminate Caribbean. They said one of the worst things you could say about a an upper class person at the time which is what. If he's black sure Brown right they would have said colored or Negro but the implication would have been mixed ladies. You think this guy swamp love but what if instead of the best thing sex with a Spanish man the scariest thing to white people. What if it's a black guy you know so there would be a lot of these headlines but the other scandals ones were his connection to Trujillo's international where she him of murder which is to me on a whole different level? uh-huh can what do you do about Caitlyn and Dylan on the Internet. Do you just let them have unfettered access to the web. When they were littler? That was not a problem. It was cute that they were on club penguin or Webcams all the time. Right now I literally spend ninety percent of my waking hours thinking what are are my children getting up to online and you've talked about trying to to limit a their their access and then you find that Dylan's got some burner phone under his bed and he's in there. This literally happened like with both my kids. I've had issues where we thought. We had smart rules about screens and devices and nature finds ends away. Do you have policies for your daughter will know because I'm still in that stage where her interest in the Internet is just like can we watch lady and the tramp again. I'm like no it's problematic. Those were the does so I have often wondered. Like how do you solve this like there. Should you should be able to enforce whatever your our family philosophy. Your household rules are around screens and devices and I've wished that there was a way to do it. Well there is a way and it's called old circle. Circle is basically a way to manage your family's online time across all they're connected devices inside inside and outside your home. I've been trying this out. They sent they sent me a circle home plus a little circle up and it really does all the things I was looking for filtering. 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That's thirty dollars off. When you visit meet circle DOT COM plus omnibus and enter omnibus us at checkout meet certain dot com slash Omnibus Inter Omnibus to save thirty dollars in nineteen thirty five a Trujillo enemy enemy named Sarah? Yo Ben COSMI was killed in New York and rubies cousin was fingered as the guy and it was always suspected expected that Rivera had a connection to that killing and then subsequent other acts of violence for the regime as he traveled around the world racing fast cars flying flying bombers getting nearly shipwrecked in the Caribbean looking for gold treasure. As he's having all these adventures like what if he's also enforcing the iron will of his former father in law did his and did his wealth. Did he use his wealth to lift the rest of his family up in their in their station. Or was he someone that was always going from from a rich woman's bed too rich woman's bed as a way because he didn't actually maintain any money of his own. A D did he did he did. He try to establish a dynasty or did he just spend every nickel was family was upper middle class military types. Who are on the right side of the Trujillo? WPRO uprising So I think his family was okay but he was no chance to your question. He was not great with money In nineteen sixty one dollars. I believe a coup removed trio from power and Ruby because of his connections to the rat. Pack Jack and Peter Lawford and by extension the with immediately dispatched to Hyannis Port to get on a yacht and to try to get diplomatic recognition for trio Sonnen John and to lift the embargo that the US and the Organization of American States had put in place after the attempt on the president of Venezuela. So he was really supposed to work Kennedy's ear and he so this is like some high level diplomatic entry. Yes and I think the as I understand it ruby could have got it done but he got back to Santo Domingo only to find the Rumford Trujillo had who instead of consolidating power. Dad's way had realized how much the citizens dozens of the Dominican Republic hated the trio's and it just absconded to Spain with two hundred million dollars. Oh Wow so really thought he could get it done but But that effectively ends his political career right then and this is a guy with what Oleg Cassini estimated to be a two million dollar a year lifestyle two million alien nine hundred sixty one dollars. I assume right jetting between Santry pay. And Deauville and Palm Beach and dot and you know this guy lived it up so so he has no home base now and presumably no money. He kept place in Paris but yeah he this is a guy with no income. And there's there's some consideration of doing what he does and maybe marrying. Peter Lawford acts or some other some other beautiful heiress from his circles but for whatever reason he never does it he he kind of has to downscale and he lives the the early sixties not in the status to which he had become Accustomed he has a he tries to sell perfume at one point with his. You know ruby perfume middle. You'll be hit with the ladies or Cologne. And at one point he markets pig o Paulo a an aphrodisiac. Supposedly you know you take a few drops from your vile of pig. Apollo sure which I think are two words meaning wooden stick. Maybe so it's not it's not a subtle reference but it's from some kind of Dominican herbs and Tree Bark that will give you the potency of of Portfolio Ruby Rosa right reach Carinthian BIOGRA-. It's a Spanish fly. Yeah exactly going back to the Spanish fly episode so You know so. That's what he's reduced to in the early sixties and historian sadly nineteen sixty five his. His Polo team wins the coupe DeFrantz. It's a big Polo Cup. That's not sad. Sounds like a little bit of a comeback. But it's by far the best thing that happens that day because he and his sat Sat are partying the night away. At Jimmy's his favorite disco in Paris and at eight. AM They switched to a different club to get the Ham sandwiches. I guess Timmy's Ham sandwiches. They liked hormone and heading back for fighting back to Jimmy's after his own his his late snag around eight. AM His Ferrari jumps a curb in the bought a Bologna and Ruby plows right into one of the huge horse chestnut trees. ooh In western Paris and his. It's a race car with a wooden steering wheel and it just plows. Right into his midsection. He gets essentially cut in half. I wouldn't steering wheel and and actually register died in a similar fiery car crash. I think maybe just a couple of years later around the same time so his life ends it exactly the manner you'd expect behind the wheel of a Ferrari between nightclubs right. No Grace Kelly type at his side I guess but but thus ends the the sad story of Die Young and leave a beautiful corpse. People still remember though you know. Apparently apparently if you go to any of these old school restaurants in New York City or Paris where there's enough institutional memory for the time when this guy was yes the king of the playboys the most interesting man in the world the original Latin lover. The creator of Macho married to the tube richest women in the world any place. That'll have memory of that. If you want pepper ground on your salad and bring out the big wooden thick foot long pepper grinder table. They will call it. The bureau's Russia and that Concludes Video Rubio's entry one zero eight seven dot one K.. One two one zero certificate number four one zero zero three in the unabomber links in the unlikely event that social media is still exists in your era. facebook twitter and instagram are archived at at Omnibus Project. 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Liftoff 104: A Beautiful Rocket Butterfly

"<music> to lift off your friends and <hes> relay F._M.. Is brought to you this week by Express V._P._N.. And Circle Liftoff is a fortnightly show where you don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand the latest news about space and related subjects. My Name's Jason Snell and joined as always by my co host Stephen Hackett. I Stephen a Jason. How are you pretty good? How are you I'm good? I am in between trips. I was just on a vacation and I'm going to see you and just a couple days. Yeah it's true there is a liftoff happening happening soon <music> as we record this very very soon. We're going to Houston we are so you've are on some sort of baseball vision quest this summer summer yet the there's no there's no vision no question but I am going to visit a couple of <hes> of of ballparks in the state of Texas one of which is in Houston which she gave me the idea that perhaps at the end of that trip I should <hes> go to the space center and then I suggested that you come along because you practically lake on the outskirts Houston in Memphis right. That's how that's how geography works really how the South Works for sure. I mean whatever it seems like it's all right there and so <hes> <hes> so you're coming over and we're GONNA go to the Space Center in Houston Yep. I'm super excited. I've never been to Johnson. I've been to Kennedy but not Johnson's is another went off the yield a bucket list Yep Yep another thing name for a president and people whenever we say we're going to be somewhere people. Ask Oh or you're going to have a meet going to do an event. Is there's something going on. I think the answer is we will. We're going to be there Sunday and Monday and so Sunday Sunday night August fourth. If you're in the Houston area watch the liftoff podcast twitter account to see and we'll post something there because because we don't know where we're going to be but we're GONNA try to go somewhere. I think on Sunday night and hang out and say hi to people if people want to come by who our listeners to this podcast so I guess watch the twitter account for for that announcement because we have to figure out where we're going to go and we don't know anything about Houston. I guess if you have a suggestion someplace near the space center that we could go in and meet people <hes> we could do that to like. It's going to be like a bar or something so people can like have a drink and say hi but we'll we'll we'll. We'll figure that one out <music> sometime in the next few days yeah sounds good. We will <hes> looking forward to it. I really am yeah yeah. It's GonNa be great and then our next episode will be our report back about <hes> everything we saw in Houston at the center and that's how you make it work trying to be in that mission control. I want to be in that mission control room that that's going to be one of those people who says Hey I funded this with my ten dollars on kickstarter or whatever that's right yeah. That'd be really cool so keep an eye out for that and hopefully Houston we you will see you this weekend. Yes so we need to get to some preflight checklist items and I wanted to start with these star hopper if we could this this is spacex as testbed for the raptor engine. This will grow up one day. It's a caterpillar now but one day it'll be a beautiful title butterfly rocket. Is that how it works <hes>. I don't think that's how rockets worked but you never know there's always something new under the sun that go into a cocoon and they come out of rocket. This is is <hes> you know. We've we've seen pictures of this the vehicle that toppled over so now they're just using the bottom half. It's a test vehicle. It's a prototype and after a the <hes> scrub earlier last week less Thursday they finally got its first flight about twenty meters sixty five feet or so so off the ground it is tethered. This is just a your lighting the motors and giving them a little bit of low to deal with it's not a a particularly exciting test if you can watch the GIF and it sort of scares around on the launch pad and you can see kind of rise from what is a very fiery smoke ball situation on the pad there but yeah it's a it's a step in the right direction. Yeah I love that video. There's on twitter bulow like Oh. There's a video I don't see any star hopper here and somebody pointed out that if you peak right above the flames you can see this little thing. Go poop there. It is boop. There goes just popped out a a little bit but it did move and that's the point in there. This is how we test new. Things like new rocket engines. This is one of the things that happens and it's kind of cool to have it happen. <hes> on in a in a place where we can actually see it happen on on camera. It's kind of fun you tell us about a near miss with an astro all right so yeah an asteroid came to visit we didn't get anything passed on by 'cause so ungrateful the Earth Dummies. It's called Twenty nineteen okay. It's not okay not okay it was between one hundred and eighty seven and four hundred and twenty seven feet long. It's fifty seven between fifty seven hundred thirty meters for those who are metric thinking Michigan in in diameter and if it had hit the earth it would have been pretty bad. I don't want to overstate it. This is not like one of those movies where there's a giant asteroid and it hits us in the whole earth is destroyed is more like the size of whatever her hit the Earth's atmosphere over to go ska in Russia in the Early Twentieth Century which if you've ever read anything about the Tin Goose event which I did after <hes> after this near Miss Happened <hes> it's fascinating because like that was that was a large object like this that basically bursted. It's small enough that it didn't even really hit the ground it just Kinda came apart and exploded in the atmosphere but the if you remember anything about the <hes> what you read about the Tunguska it's like the <hes> trees all knock down in Siberia in the forest in a in a big circle around for miles and miles and miles around the center of the blast and the reports suggest that nobody was killed. There's animals were killed but no people were killed because it was in in such a remote area and that's something to remember when a small objects hitting the earth is that most of the earth doesn't have people on it. It's water or it's desert or it's <hes> forest and there's nobody around. If it hit over a city it would be really bad but to go the thing that I didn't realize <hes> which is really really funny is that it's in the remotest part of Siberia. Basically it's nineteen zero nine. I want to say and this happens and people are like Oh wow that was weird and nobody really even investigated it for like ten or twenty years afterward where they finally went there and found all of these <hes> trees knocked down and then in the center of the trees were still standing kind of just like telephone poles and because the force it comes straight down but it took years and years before anybody really even investigated what happened it was so remote in that in that Era Anyway <hes> twenty nine thousand nine okay okay did not hit us but it did come very close you know between the Earth and the moon distance kind of you know it was it was close and scientists. I just think that maybe every three hundred years or so on average something this size. It's the earth so just something to keep in mind. There's a lot of garbage floating around in the solar system. You never know what might happen <hes> and it it's small and it came out of the sun and nobody saw it so <hes> another reminder that we may want to continue to step up our our <hes> efforts to patrol the space around us and so we can eventually avoid getting hit by stuff like this right and of course the bigger and asteroid is the easier it as it is for us to see it through the the near Earth object office NASA. They're tracking taking a whole bunch of stuff but it was big but there are much bigger scarier rocks out there and those are easier to track <hes> in fact out of the near Earth objects that are larger that kilometer across NASA believes after more than ninety percent of them so we know where they are and where they're going and if you go bigger than that so you go ten kilometers across that would basically wipe out life on Earth Arthur almost all of it those. Are we know where they are. They're in stable orbits. They're not sort of zipping through on these crazy trajectories. We have something like like twenty nineteen. Okay it's below that threshold and it's something that hopefully is a science technology gets better and we continue to fund this work. We find more more and more of them. Yeah I saw there's that cool graph that basically is like as the as the size of the object gets more. It's like what will kill you what will kill people and that's like the tsunami and the wind and then eventually it's like and then the thermal if it if it's really if it reaches the crown and it's really hot then that alone will do it but there's lots of different ways that big rocks and space can kill you if you let them so. Don't let them is what I say. Is it uplifting topic anyway twenty nine thousand nine okay okay not okay not okay. Okay now. Not Okay you went about sponsor all right. This episode of lift-off is brought to you by Express V._p._N.. You May I think that nobody wants your online data. 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For supporting lift off and all of relay F._M.. Do you know what time it is. I'm hoping it's for my favorite favorite segment who it is indeed time for S._O._S.. Segment Space Launch System Segment explained geopolitics mechanical systems engineering achievements news and Trivia via as L._S. Segman. We've spoken several times about the green run just to recap what this is. It is a full length full power test test of the four R. S. twenty-five engine so has this four shuttle engines the core stage and this puts them all altogether on a test stand and basically runs them full tilt for the full length of the launchers about eight minutes in length. It's two million pounds pounds of thrust there had been discussion. This test may have been on the chopping block because S._O._S. and now artists. There's a deadline of twenty twenty four and to do this test takes months. You have to get all of the engines to stint space. Center Mississippi got to Hook it all up up. You got to do the test you have to do all this analysis and there was a segment of people a group of people who thought that maybe this could be skipped and we could save some time on that schedule and this comes from Jim Breitenstein NASA administrator saying that the green run will move forward board so he had this tweet and there's a link in the show notes to a page on NASA's website as well basically giving reasons that astronaut safety is the number one priority in the green run increases the probability of a successful moon landing and it is important to discover issues with the rocket earlier rather than later which are basically the three things we discussed when the story broke that the green run could be on the out so I for one am glad that is has been stuck back into the schedule. The twenty twenty four deadline is is unlikely the to cut corners to try to hit it especially when we're talking about safety. Just that never made sense to me. I don't think it made sense to most people so <hes> the green run has got the thumbs up. Forgive me for making a guess about what happened here but I've seen this enough that it's generally a new person comes in in and says oh come on. Why are you doing these things we could do better and then they say in this case we can do better? Maybe we won't do this thing and then they learn what they need to learn Next year or mid twenty twenty one so this will be before that okay again. That was a statement of dates regarding the L._S.. So you can just edit that out with like Blah Blah Blah and like those dates I heard him they. Those are the words they represent time mm-hmm. Apparently there's no time in the segment Stephen it could go on forever who knows it's really true. We knock knock Elon Musk for that but <hes> it happens to all sorts all sorts of organizations really there. Is You know let's just be honest. Just the segment it's kind of a Downer sometimes right we talk about budgets and schedules and so far there's not been a lot of and but not under budget and ahead of schedule by that that's not no opposite of what we talked about so far not been a lot of big milestones that we've covered in this segment but that we we now have one been some little ones but this one feels pretty big so during the Apollo eleven media blitz that we all all just survived during some of that at Kennedy Vice President Mike Pence he gave remarks at the Neil Armstrong operations at checkout building and in that he announced that the Orion vehicle for the artists one mission is complete and is basically beginning preparations for flight. He called it. The Orion crew vehicle optimists one of course not crude something else by the way if you remember Jason was also so discuss that maybe we just put crew on the first one not not a good no that was also not they did it with the shuttle and they got lucky and so I don't want to do that again but <hes> this this Orion vehicle is is not a crew vehicle but it's also not quite like the Apollo hollow the block one remember. We talked about that in the early Apollo missions how they had sort of versions of the command module that they're really the stuff keep humans in there wasn't there it was basically mostly for testing and outfitting and syncing the things that command module would go through this Orion is closer to that so it it has the shape in most of the components but it's really designed designed for testing so artists one is going to take this Orion capsule on the S. L. S. basically around the Moon Apollo eight style to test it system. Do Re entry with it and make sure that all of that is good to go so it's an important mission but it is when the data is again. Is You know hand wavy yeah but it's good that we've got we've got the <hes> this capsule that has been has been completed and the service module which was completed already and and so they get to put those two kids together in one configuration and they can do some testing and stuff but it's like here are the the vehicles that are going to get put on top of the LS and launched its a good milestone. We're still waiting for the rocket but yeah absolutely so the service module was provided by the European Space Agency and partners. It's been done since the end of last year. It's at Kennedy it's like you said they're going to join them at Kennedy and and then they'll be flown in the guppy that big airplane they put spacecraft and rocket parts in and it will be flown to the Glenn Research Center in Ohio. The Glenn Research Center is home of I think now maybe my favorite NASA facility the Plum Brook Station of a page of this in the show notes if you haven't ever ever come across this and it is in Ohio and it is home of these tests facilities to who basically stress out spacecraft so they have a huge vacuum chamber it's one hundred feet diameter one hundred and twenty two feet high so they can put these spacecraft as craft in a huge vacuum chamber and make sure that they stay pressurized the way they're supposed to have any issues and then they also have the reverberate acoustic test test facility which they mount the spacecraft to you and it basically simulates the noise and vibe and vibrations in the mechanical vibration MM facility of a launch so we talk about all the violence of this out and five. We'll have all of that as well and you WanNa make sure that nothing shakes loose that there's no issues with acoustics is an issue with the vibration and it gets done in Ohio so it's it's a pretty neat facility in my book yeah. I didn't know all these details. I thought dot think that's pretty cool. I'm impressed that they don't refer to the reverberate acoustic test facility as rat F. because it's right there it is just more just or as rat the rat. Maybe they just call it the rat that's cool anyway. If you've seen a picture of the reverberate Acoustic Test Facility facility it's like a white room with a wall that is filled with a million different giant speaker things that look like Kinda like speakers but they're actually tunnels. It's wild stuff but we got time. We're GONNA shake and blast this thing and make sure that it doesn't fall apart because because you know that would be bad and it'll be a waste of rocket launch. It'd be a raised a real waste of a billion dollar L._S. rocket launch. If it turned out that some of the stuff like shake off during flight light right you got to <hes> get that lockdown for just to round out the plumber station talk for a second they also have the end space propulsion facility which they do have rebate I._S._p.. Internet from there yeah Internet and vacuum company all in one. Oh sorry boy Jason Taken back. I give up all the Rubio would be an awesome acronym for something. I wonder what it would be on. That aisle worked that one yeah back in that thing up so in this facility they test for sage launch vehicles and rocket engines under high altitude conditions are simulated conditions so if you think about you know we've all seen the SPACEX launches where the the lower stage falls away and they use the Merlin vacuum engine to push the second stage whoever whatever whatever deploying wherever they're deploying it the I._S._P.'s designed to test that sort of thing so they can have a a motor vehicle exposed too low ambient pressure actually indefinitely which is pretty interesting they can cool it off so it's really cold they can do dynamic heating to simulate orbital paths where you're in and out of sunlight all this is done at the plum plum brook station and I'm totally on board. I'm team plum brook. I gotta say it team Bloomberg all right. Maybe we'll visit there sometime could Ohio go into a room full of speakers and then run away before we're shaken into little pieces yeah. It's not a place you want to be. You know you don't want to be in that room when they're using it. That's for sure you're definitely not vibrant DISA- death <hes> probably messy you don't do you don't WanNa go that way because the radiation overlapping overlay monitoring in in all right I'm still working on. I'll get okay all right well. I'll follow up with you on that okay. Maybe you can get there. I wanted to follow up a little bit about the Lunar Gateway. This is like a half step out of the but the there's some news <music> and the news is that northop grumman a name very familiar to anyone following along with all the oppo the Apollo stuff they have been selected elected to they have a contract to build the minimal or skinny gateway part of at least they're building the habitation module it we'll be joined eventually with the propulsion energy module being built by mack czar but this is this is not the international space station so we think about the isis it's enormous the size of football field lots of modules solar panels everywhere lunar gateway at least at the beginning is going to be extremely minimal really just to have a couple of astronauts be able to go park the Orion there get aboard the station. Get on a Lunar Lander. We're going to talk about in a second. Let me go down to the moon so this is not a long term habitation station at this point. It is basically what I've come to think of as a floating locker room in the sky go in you get change. Take care of the car out so in fact. It's not so it's it's interesting testing in that they've basically caught bypass. They were going to do a whole bid process and and the Nasdaq basically said in the interest of speed. We're GONNA just give this one to northrop Grumman <hes> <hes> based on an existing ship an existing cargo ship design that they've got so they're modifying kind of their own cargo design. As far as I can tell it's not doc you're going to even have a life support of its own so the idea there. Is You know bring your own astronauts bringing own oxygen. It's not it's not meant to do any of that. It's really meant to be kind of a docking area where you can you can park stuff and transfer from one vehicle to another and the apparently one of the bidders for this was bigelow aerospace my buddies who with their inflatable modules and they're they're president put out and founder put out a sort of a sad blog post about it although it was sort of like trying to cheer themselves up because their whole thing is that they they can create a lot with an inflatable modulate logitech and create a large space for less because it's not rigid and they're still hopeful. They said that that at some point down on the road <hes> NASA may decide to make gateway a little bit more homey and <hes> a an inflatable module might be able to let them do that but in the in this initial configuration figuration it really is just sort of a transfer block with some parts. It's like an adapter flying around the moon extremely minimal <hes> it's based on the cygnus cygnus spacecraft which we have talked about before because that's the one they set the fires and sometimes leaving the space station to study fire in space yeah multi-use. This makes sense to me. I think if you are under this pressure to get this done moving to a company that already has a platform you can use just mcclay. That's the way to go and I think <hes> bigalow and there's definitely get their shot. This later on. I think there are there are plans to expand lindor gateway is but for this twenty twenty four deadline we're talking. What is the the minimum that we need? You know you don't you don't need things if you're only there for a few hours that you would need if you're there for days or weeks or months and and they will expand upon that time goes on so Leonard Gateway. It's a it's a thing but very minimal thing moving forward. Yeah absolutely really we. 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That's lift off and the code liftoff to save thirty bucks. You're always always going to worry about your kids but with circle you can make sure they have a healthy relationship with their technology so you have one less thing to worry about our thanks to circle for their support of lift-off doff and relay F._M.. All right we talk about Lunar Partners Yeah Lander drama <hes>. There's a lot of stuff here scrambling blend going on because there's this this deadline that they're not gonNa meet for somebody on the moon so there's a lot of activity happening. You got to do it all at once. You know. These are all parallel task you have S._O._S.. You Have Ryan you have Leonard Gateway and of course you have the lander so we're going to start with talking about some mm partnerships that NASA has announced some of these are sort of lunar in focus but others are with a with an and I cut towards Mars because you know all this is still sort of under the moon to Mars branding. I guess if you will you know they just don't get into that today but it's <hes> these partnerships are designed to move the ball forward and a bunch of different ways so spacex is listed as you would assume that's the one that sort of gotten the headlines NASA and SPACEX work together to advance technology to vertically land large Mall and very lightweight by design and by necessity and SPACEX is building a giant rocket that one day will hop beyond just a test bed and they're going to work with NASA on how to do that on the moon part of this is advancing our understanding of the the exhaust from rocket motors and what it does to lunar surface and the soil on the lunar surface home and we're GonNa talk about this later Apollo missions but are there there were some studies in the Apollo timeframe where they sent a lander and then basically brought down can crew like robotic lander and then brought down the Lunar Orlando near it and part of that was to see if we land this close to it in lunar dust is is it's not eroded and smooth things are here. It's it's jagged jagged sharp and can really cause damage to nearby structures and with no atmosphere it wants. It's airborne so so little gravity it can really start moving and be in movement for a long time and if you think about combining that with a big rocket you don't want to be in a situation nation where you are basically sandblasting everything around it and if you think really long term if you think about extended lunar missions or even permit habitats on the lunar surface at some point you're going to want to vehicle somewhat close to structures that need to be there for a long time is this is the beginning of the work of understanding that relationship right this is one of those things where I read a story the other week about this that that is probably the one that you're also thinking of where where large items large rocks could basically get blasted busted and with such force and Moon's gravity so light that they could go like around the moon basically and then at at high speed lead and essentially what I took away from that was pretty quickly. If we're going to put people on a on a moon base we're going to have to figure out how to make a a concrete basically something like that and create a landing pad for Luna Landers because otherwise the debris is going to be a a severe problem every time you take off and land on the lunar surface spacex and NASA will also be working on transferring propellant in orbit or even beyond low orbit if you think about mission to Mars and a spaceship as large as the <hes> the space x starship starship or even things past that you're going to need to refuel and NASA spacex is sort of shown that and concept videos before NASA has done work studying these things you have liquid oxygen and hydrogen methane. They're difficult to work with here on earth but in the Envir- harsh environment of space it becomes much more difficult in my reading and even seems like hydrogen atoms can migrate through some types of metal fuel tanks which it seems bad extremely complicated problem so NASA and spacex are also going to be putting engineers together to work on this under this new this new program Graham. There's an article over on ars Technica `bout this goes into some more detail about the technical issues this his a quote here from a former chief technologist and NASA Bobby Brown. He says basically every every study that's been done about long-term space base expiration in space refueling is always like an item on those listed always comes up and so this is something that we need to master if we want to <hes> put big spacecraft on Mars or crewed spacecraft even beyond we're talking about small robotic missions like New Horizons for instance those things things are in it on their way to their destinations for a really long time and we use things like the sun and other planets to slingshot got them using gravity to accelerate them and it's okay if a robotic spacecraft takes nine years to get to an outer outer planet but if you're talking about crewed missions that's a really long time. That's a significant time away from home far beyond what we're able to do now and so you've got to use propellant gotta use more propellant in these smaller vehicles or using and so this is going to be an issue yeah also this sort of tangentially intially related but one of the things that they talk about about going to the moon is the possibility that you could mine resources on the moon so like like water is at the South Pole of the moon. That's hydrogen oxygen. You could potentially generate fuel out of that and getting that stuff off of the lunar surface surface is a lot easier in terms of gravity than off of the surface of the earth and that way you had access to materials that are <unk> are cheaper fundamentally so there's lots of different angles to this potential for having spacecraft that could be refueled also you you know you you create a supply chain where you've got a fuel depot and so you can get something up fairly cheaply and then and then top it off and send it on its way hey instead of having to have it carry all of its propellant with it. <hes> you know this is one of those things that it seems science fictional in in one way but it it it really is something that you have to deal with if you're thinking of long range use an exploration of the solar system so Eric Berger who wrote that straight ars Technica Nicole it seems like a very technical point and what Burger said was this is huge this is this is a big deal because this is NASA and spacex x starting this process of saying. Let's get serious about refueling rockets and space pretty <hes> pretty wild stuff. There are a bunch of other companies. Let's sit in this document. I also WanNa talk about Sierra Nevada our favorite tiny space shuttle company any that's dismissing them a little bit but they're working on that. It's adorable. I love the tiny space shuttle it is durable. They're also working with NASA asa onto entry descent and landing projects they they're tiny shuttles the dream chaser of course and they're going to work with Langley actually capture infrared images of it as it reenters the atmosphere to understand how that descent and the Heat Shield and all that stuff they using thermal tiles system like the shuttle shuttle to have a better understanding of that and they're also going to work to to mature method of recovery of upper stage stage rockets using basically a decelerating they could deploy right now upper stage vehicles are they're basically left left there or shoved off into some of their orbit or they eventually come down and burn up. We talk about reusable rockets. Were really talking about the lower stages and so- Sierra Nevada the corporation is going to be working on that problem which is pretty exciting the more we can reuse the better of course we also have blue origin jeff basis company. They are going to work on high temperature materials for liquid rocket engine nozzles blue origin. We we talk about them a good bit but they really we have become sort of a an engineering powerhouse that people we I think it's easy to view blue origin through Jeff bazars vision of of space tourism stuff but we WANNA become basically the railroad for space commerce and Building Infrastructure and they may get there but the their engineering so far has been really impressive to watch and this is another step in that direction they're also going to work on fuel cell power systems for the Blue Moon Lander which bays US unveiled in about a month ago a Lunar Lander concept and this this system would be designed to provide power during the lunar night which could last as much as two weeks depending on on where you are on the moon and so this this fuel cell would need to generate quite a bit of power to keep not only the land itself but of course it's occupants warm to keep keep them with all their life support systems running so very important critical piece is we look maybe not at twenty twenty four but with beyond that initial landing Nasr's talking about these longer longer duration missions and even the later Apollo missions weren't on the moon all that long and if you want to extend your stay there you need systems like fuel cells that can keep your craft energized for days or even weeks on end so blue origin is going to be working working on that drought this list we have Lockheed Martin working out systems to grow plants in space. Some of that happens on the space station. I know on my first first NASA social trip at Kennedy we were briefed on some of the <hes> the technology used on the space station to to grow lettuce and other <unk> things Lockheed Martin is looking to propel that research again longer origin flights to the to the mood. Let alone Mars. You're going to need to grow grow things on that mission you can't everything with you and so they're gonna be working on that and also working on new techniques with working and forming metal and metal alloys for for lunar hardware so a bunch of these companies partying with NASA sort of attack different problems again all in parallel the further we get into arguments the more we're we're realizing how many things have to move forward all at the same time yeah now meanwhile the existing Lunar Lander program has had some some drama or some issues. I guess yes you could say or they're playing a game of survivor and somebody was kicked out of the tribe basically back in May announce that robotic landers for just to bring stuff to the surface because again. It's been awhile since we've landed landers on the surface. There are not that many China's got something there but the U._S. is not doing so much so they made this deal. Robotic landers are going to be built by three different companies orbit beyond Astra biotic and intuitive machines would fly missions to the moon by this program called Commercial Lunar Payload Services C. L. P. S. clips claps. I Dunno clips. I'M GONNA go with clips. Okay new jersey-based orbit beyond was scheduled the first of these missions with its Z.. O. One lander in September twenty twenty however or beyond realized it was not going to be able to hit the deadline that was a a part of their agreement with NASA and basically asked to be removed from the program which is interesting sort of put their hands at a weekend do this so the other two vendors Astra biotic and intuitive machines are still working on. There's NASA says it's still on track to have science payloads delivered to the lunar surface in twenty twenty one Astra Biotic Atticus proposed to fly as many as fourteen different payloads to a large crater on the near side of the Moon lactose Mortis by July twenty twenty one intuitive machines is proposed to fly as many as five payloads for NASA to proce alarm a scientifically intriguing dark spot on the moon by July twenty twenty one so so there's still a lot of activity here for the next couple of years but one of the three partners has sort of opted out and been released from its responsibilities by NASA better now than later Yep yeah yeah. I actually kind of appreciate that that the contractors like no we can't do this. It's not GonNa Happen and <hes> we. I wonder what miscalculation they made. They it felt confident. They could do it and it turns out that they couldn't but anyway there's a lot of moon activity happening <hes> including the unproved variety at this point so there's a lot going on there. Hey Steven before we close. I had a couple of a couple tiny space craft notes. Okay are the notes tiny or the spacecraft tiny both ooh we didn't mention this the preflight checklists but I wanted to throw it in just because there's so much going on space stuff right now that we wait a couple of weeks and things happen and and we just blow right past them so I want to mention the Planetary Society deployed light sale to which is a cube sat with a solar sail fail and the idea is they want to they want to show the power of a solar sail the idea there is you've got a big kind of uh-huh mylar sail and the solar wind hits it and it can affect a spacecraft and the idea here is that the solar wind we talked about propulsion and and having and fuel depots which is important for crewed missions but for crewed missions for robot missions one of the <hes> power sources in the solar system is free and it's the solar wind. If you could build a big solar sail you could potentially drive spacecraft at fairly high speeds eventually eventually you know because you're you have to pick up speed gradually through the solar system which is a great idea but it's never really been put into a lot of practice says it's sort of just been a a science fiction idea and a little tiny tests here and there so with light sale to what the Planetary Society is trying to do is actually use the the <hes> solar sail to deform the orbit of light sale too so that on on the sunny side of the earth it will raise its orbit a bit which will actually cause it to have a lower orbit on the other side and that's sort of the point is they want to see how much they can change the orbit a bit of light sale to ultimately to the point where it burns up in the atmosphere but that's that's kind of what they're trying to do with the experiment is just show practically in space what what a solar sail can do which is pretty good so it's it's it's out there. The the the sale is is raised and I thought that was a pretty cool little mini satellite story story very cool and my other mini-satellite story is about a company called maiden space which is a startup in California California and they want to do a cube set that has a three D. Printer on board and the idea there. is they want onto. They want to create technology that lets it three D print items in space Is it makes it easier to carry materials in a three D.. Printer is the idea then to have to fold up parts of the spacecraft so the idea here is that main space wants to create a cube sat that will print its own solar panels when it's in space which is just a cool idea school. Of course we talked about the fuel depots three D.. Printing in space is also a big thing because again. If you have raw materials you could make materials in space or on the moon moon where it's going to be easier to get the materials out there then to carry them all the way from Earth but in this case the idea is you've got obviously to have a raw materials come from the earth but then you don't have have to worry about the physics of packing them all into a small space like the light sail having its unfurled thin mylar solar sail you end up with a very small packed spacecraft getting off of the Earth surface but then it's able to become much more functional spacecraft once it's in space and you can take advantage of the fact that it can grow to whatever size it needs to grow so it's a cool idea. I love it yeah. Three D. printed solar arrays in space. That's a that's a fun idea too so that's my so two stories about tiny spacecraft that will have very thin things extended from them uncommon Tom. There's a there's a picture of the Maintenance Space C._E._O.. Andy rush standing next to one of the three D. printed solar rays and it's three or four times longer than he is tall so this this is a a good sized solar ray. I love the idea we wanted to wrap up this week. <unk> by marking the death of Chris Craft who just quite simply is legendary in NASA history. He died died on July twenty second at the age of ninety five and I have not read his book. There'll be a link to it in the show notes though but it is now on my list best but I want to talk a little bit about just how influential Chris Craft was not only on Mercury Jim Ni- Apollo Solo but really I think still in the way that space travel both crude and crew is still managed today. Chris Craft was NASA's first flight director but he kind of invented the job and the way that something like mission control operates so he started in flight research actually turning down a job at Neka which would become NASA in nineteen fifty eight <hes> but when NASA was formed formed he was invited to come help put an American into orbit <hes> big and became one of the original thirty five engineers assigned to what would become project jake mercury so ground floored day one type stuff here and I guess when you have thirty five engineers and you're on day one you just look at somebody and say hey we need an example mission plan and Chris Craft. Thankfully was the guy that that task was given to you and it turned turned out. He was perfectly suited for the job. This is before Mercury had communication ground support. This is basically a blank page right. That's very early very early on and he came up with the the mission control concept that we all know from not only the Apollo days but that continues today with the International Space Station was used in the shuttle program program the European Space Agency and Russia everyone uses this template and it came from Chris Craft and the <hes> the idea of course as we know it well is that you would have a team of engineers and system experts in the room monitoring monitoring and gathering data and feeding that data up to the flight director when called upon and of course it's a pyramid triangle type structure. We had had the flight director at the top blow him. You have the the engineers in the room and they all have their back rooms full of people who are monitoring between things and feeding information to them so the data is coming up organically through the structure up to the flight director and that puts one person in charge of making wrong decisions but they have they are armed with all the knowledge of these this wider and wider base of people below them and the chain of decision making is actually clear if you listen especially during the Apollo eleven festivities there are a lot of places where they're playing the different flight loops and they talk about it in great detail on thirteen minutes to the Moon Muna Great B._B._C. podcast about Apollo eleven and I was struck and listening to it about how it really is this. It's it's not just a technical detail. Of How do you manage a large group of flight controllers. It's a management strategy and Chris Craft invented in the idea there where is that while the flight director is in charge and has ultimate authority the distribution of authority is powerful and so and you hear it in these people who are in their early twenties a lot of them who are in charge of various things they've got their back rooms that they're talking to it bubbles up to them and you hear it in those moments moments where he says let's go around the horn like gene Kranz did that for Apollo eleven but it's like again invented by Chris Craft the idea that he goes through every single <hes> every single person every department with a go no go and when they say go you know they are making a management decision and it ultimately the flight director could say no go but he's empowering his people to say go and it's just it's it's a it's a really remarkable all system that that obviously didn't have to be invented this way but this is how people use it to this day so it's a giant in the field and for for lots of reasons but the whole creation of what we think of as mission control comes from Chris Craft and his plan was proven to work during the Mercury or mercury three Alice five launched in nineteen sixty one crude with a chimpanzee it had to be de orbited early following a failure of the attitude control system. The space craft and craft was in this fight director role and made the decision. Hey we're going to Deorbit it. We're going to do in a way we can bring <hes> the chimp backs at an early example of a single person making this decision he made the call twelve seconds before it would have been <hes> problematic and difficult to bring the back to Earth. That's kind of wild mission should have read about but that his his services fighter carried forward for all six crude mercury missions one he split the duties with somebody else's due to the time it would take to be in the room room and then he served as the head of mission operations for Jim Ni- seeing a overseeing a team flight director of course Jimmy. The missions got longer and longer longer so no one person could do the job and you get to Jim Nine Apollo and you have different teams of people people working on this console is different flight directors yeah the creative different by color teams any green team and every every flight director had their color and when that flight director was no longer a flight director that color was retired which is really interesting little little little tidbit but he was always there. You know he was after German I seven he was planning Apollo missions. He would have probably served as a flight director for Apollo Ella one but after the fire he really sort of stepped into a more managerial role which is probably the right thing to do right like they needed somebody to be more of a supervisor there air and so he was bringing in his flight directors and he was sort of the the parent of the flight director is he reworked the time line as the as the limb fell behind schedule this led to Apollo way taking the command service module around the Moon of course and during Paul Thirteen he was actually called back into mission control to help out is like all hands on deck to to to solve that so he was definitely the mother hen of Mission Control and then ultimately in seventy two was named director of what we now think of as Johnson space the manned spacecraft center in Houston where we will be soon who've either just a few days during that what time is like a ten year timeframe where he is director of M._S._n.. Now Johnson you think about that timeframe that is the beginning days as of the shuttle program so you have that being under development so not a lot of active crewed missions. There was a gap there but he's getting the building blocks in order for the show just as he had for Mercury Gemini and Apollo but he ended up retiring in nineteen eighty two you in the wake of S._D._S. to second shuttle launch S. S. two is a story for a different time so I've tried to like compile this and of the shortest explanation I could after reading a bunch of stuff. It was supposed to be a five day. Mission was cut short when one of the three fuel cells Columbia malfunctioned one thing the crew was supposed to do in the later days was to test Canada arm which was attached to the Bay of the shuttle of course would be US later to WHO <hes> pluck things out of orbit but things back into orbit <hes>. There's GonNa be a verse of this at Lunar Gateway eventually very a very important piece piece of hardware and the crew of Joe Engle Richer truly they were actually like pretty unhappy that they had to scrub that that testing they viewed the work as really important they wanted to do the work and so they skipped asleep period and worked during the loss of signal periods as the shuttle was orbiting the earth. You know they would lose radio contact different times so mission control was unaware that they actually went forward with that test without ground support port both of these men flew later shuttle missions and truly be actually what became a director at NASA later on so didn't kill their careers which I found surprising but needless to say it created quite the rift between for awhile between the Astronaut Corps Mission Control and NASA administration during the after this time <hes> craft kind of think viewed it as a sign that it was it was time to retire from his position and <hes> and he did and I think it for someone who had been at NASA this point since its beginning in fifty eight and really kind of their before NASA was NASA obviously a huge change to the organization but the str- to his credit the structure he had built <hes> was maintained throughout the shuttle program and again <hes> I assassin it'll be this type of organization will be what supports artists. It's really his legacy despite sort of going out during this this bumpiness around S._T._S. too yep and then so post NASA consultant. I feel like every time we talk about. Everybody's post NASA careers. It's a very similar story on corporate boards where he was a consultant for several companies in the mid nineties he was appointed the chairman of the Space Shuttle Management Independent Review team which was tasked with investigating ways the shuttle program could be more cost effective in the end. The craft report recommended that the space shuttle should probably just be outsourced to a private have a contractor and privatize the space shuttle which obviously didn't happen but you know he was viewing already that the space shuttle sort of didn't make sense in a lot ottaway financially and people didn't like it the Columbia Accident Investigation Board quoted as a factor in NASA so having relaxed its safety standards in the lead up to the accident too so that's you know the space shuttle is also a topic for another time to talk about again. I suppose yeah but <hes> yeah there's a whole mess there but suffice it to say as we said Chris Craft was a huge person in in the Field Johnson Space Center's Mission Control Center is now the Christopher C Kraft Junior Mission Control Center in his honor. He was inducted into the National Aviation Hall of Fame In two twenty sixteen and I would say it's no coincidence you hear about people hanging on when they're very ill when they're dying thing to hit some sort of milestone. I think it's very clear that Chris Craft wanted to live to see the fiftieth anniversary of Apollo Eleven and then died shortly thereafter but what a life and what a legacy for him absolutely another just giant in space history <hes> we've lost and Eric makes this point in his article about it that there are dozens of people of like the four hundred thousand who worked on Apollo <hes> you know we're losing these people faster and faster and this is definitely a big blow. I think that does it though I think that's a good place to wind it down if you want if you want to read more about the <hes> topics we talked about their over on the website relay dot F._m.. Slash liftoff slash one. Oh four if you are in Houston then and you have a desire to meet up or some suggestions where we could do so please let us know on twitter. The show is at liftoff podcast you can find Jason on twitter under as J Snell and you can find me as h we of course link stories and videos and stuff in between episodes over on our blog Jason. Could you give us a beautiful rendition of that you will well sure it's liftoff podcast dot space perfect our next episode. We're going to talk about <unk> out our time at Johnson Space Center so we're doing some tour stuff. It's going to be fun to share share

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Ep 53 | Jases Free-Falling Plane, Als Romantic Honeymoon, and Phil Gets Crop-Dusted

Unashamed with Phil Robertson

56:31 min | 1 year ago

Ep 53 | Jases Free-Falling Plane, Als Romantic Honeymoon, and Phil Gets Crop-Dusted

"On a chain. Uh what about you. The name I've never heard let me just get into I can give you my less. You got a lot of stuff. I'll get to Eh Jason. He's itching to go. Yeah a lot of photo shooting and that was ahead about I my wife. She's like hey you're going metal detecting today because because I had been out of town because I did my first event of the year you know take duck season all and enjoy that. That's over and so then I start doing my events. I loaded up on February and March announced that as artist. I was in Cape Girardeau Missouri and I didn't know anything from Cape Girardeau except for when we used to sell duck calls are remember that have all the Walmart stores stores listed. And you would look at you know who's number one. I mean wears are Ductile Salem. We'll Cape Girardeau. Missouri was frequently number one and it was always in the top ten so when the event request Cain you know my assistant she processes all these events. I saw that Cape Dorset. I'm in but it was really hard hard to get to. It's kind of like Monroe visits right there with Mississippi River. You're referring to the speech you just gay. I gave it a Friday night. I got you So the preacher calls and says hey I got a plane. You know that'll help with your schedule. I'll come down and get you always like counter on par. I love up here that well. He pulled up out there and I'll let them because my first thought was crop duster and you know and it's pretty good ways to Cape Girardeau I get a little worried about. Is Ken to crop dust. Yeah I looked at my assistant. Her is just got big. They said well. We seeks six to see where you faith is. Because we're going to do. The Lord had an enclosed canopy. Wasn't I can't sit down you can't move. It was one those are just from the the the way the semantics of the aircraft aircraft. It is about like that rig we went in with at this Americans Peres. Remember that one up in Alaska sometimes as it takes faith even to get on this or not just what. I was thinking in fact fact the last time I was on this type of plane. You know you. You were earphones. Could you do it because if you don't those the sound is so loud hold. My head has been ringing for a couple of days since I got off the thing but anyway. Where's the preacher driving plane or did yeah well? He said he drove on the way down here. He he said but to help calm our fears he had a he thinks that would be any fear. Involved a bone. UC maybe ride three hours in a crop duster. Ah Basically what it was. But he had acquired A veteran and the Air Force military. WHO's a believer? He said I got him to help. Overcome your fears and I thought well that's working for the good news. Most of the time you could land add on just a just a dirt trail down beside a field. You going in there. You know what I found fascinating about that plane as a because he looked up because I was trying to get in. I mean this is the kind you get on the plane and until the the the Wing to get in or you know what I mean by the way while. You're there taste good story when I was about twelve fourteen years old I went out there and I I was walking across a cotton patch. You know they all kind of pesticide. No wonder we are kind of funny but this this this plane started Cardi spraying that feel about the time I got middle at it. Oh here's one lone little boy walking across his field spraying and he's spraying spraying it. Look I heard the thank per pump. I heard it Kinda Belch a little bit when he when he came down and came up only he was missing Kirkwood okay. I'm I'm standing at thirteen year old. That's all that smoke coming out of it. And look he just comes right down beside the field on the turn row and he thought he was crashing. I said well he's going down. I'll go the rent's have fire. I'll try to pull him out there so I'm kind of running over. I told him when he's going down well he bounces about three he times on the on the turn row and shuts it down. This dude gets out. You know he gets you know had credit range is an he he fumble around a little bit. Come out with a reach. Did he see or yeah. I was standing watching and he looked around. He didn't in order to play in this stuff that I'm spraying. Well what I'm maybe. They'll anyway Chris reach in his hand and he gets up on it that thing upon upon where the propeller and heat messed around about few minutes and stand overlooking look he fired the thing back and he chong who took her out and I went across the field I looked around. He just went back to spray back. So what I'm saying is I mean. Probably a believer Dan Le Down gets arranged. That goes up under gets back in it. Fires it up and takes off again so you know. I like to wear hats. I used to wear a hat on the pike as because I use a hat so lisa claims because I got a little ball in spot in the middle she has is a theory. And there's nothing there's she's not a doctor you know so. She doesn't have any training but she has a theory that hats make you lose your hair no it what will here's why so here's house. She says she proves because every time a golfer who golfers were hat's almost you know all of them do that. She says they pull out their hands. They're young men are. They're almost always balder losing. I'm wearing a hat and a whole lot. Well which is what I would say. There's a hat is a hairnet to me. That's what she would call a hairnet. Because if I don't have this hat on I can't see anything I have. Rick well you do have a sort of a captain caveman thing going one on there with all the hair and the have you ever thought of just like trimming back a little on the front side Saturday at the same time saving money. I mean that's basically burning. I mean look like that at least kind of goes to the side. I'm going through the woods and I WANNA get real close to any animal. I take my hat off just too easy. Usually they're just like just a Brescia uh-huh animals animals have learned. They the thing they're afraid of the most is of human beings face. Yeah Man our animal. That's how you spot him way off you look you their faces standout. That's why the bald spot from the Air Russian collusion thing about dogs flying. He could see that Baltic bought from the Moon. But but that's why by the not coming in our case this is their stands out in the brush. So I guess you're right. So so here's the deal we got. We got a company called keeps because because they want to help episode especially for those early in their hair loss to be able to keep as much hair as possible so they basically done some studies They've come up they they they realize it's a lack of hormone. There is some genetics. There's a lack of hormone involved is what can help you grow some hair. They've had like sixty six percent Success rates that's pretty good two out of every three guys that tries to especially when you're first losing your hair keeps and so the way you do this. is you'll go to their website which is is keeps dot com keeps dot com slash door. And then they're going to have a medical console and all the ways you can check this out to figure out this helps you to not lose your hair because we don't want to flare ducks from the moon apparently so keeps dot com slash door. Get your fifty percent off your first first order Check it out keeps com slash door And you can look light jazz. You can just like have flowing hair. Maybe so they won't that that makes me thank you know you might be a redneck if you're stopping. You're playing to adjust it with Chris to get it back. Gory my never standing out in the field. Being sprayed my way pre cell phone pre about all could add walkie-talkie so unlike I call in Battle of field. I'm GonNa take a wild guess and they probably walkie-talkie wait for last one mike preached he got up there and he I think he was trying to be funny and he was telling this story preacher joke yeah but he was telling a story about on his honeymoon he went to six flags and I thought you might be redden. I if you went to six flags on your honeymoon and why are you telling me that now because I'm feeling really uncomfortable decisions connection. Yeah you're GonNa talk to me about life and you take your wife. Thanks started out the story though. And he's a north Argyle's of you know take a boy's where that he's he tells the a story that I stopped report. He didn't know what a hotel reservation was. He's you know he's a Anita Room. They're like well we're full so he's guys brad out there in the car. Where's where's he from? He's from my Pocahontas. Arkansas Oklahoma and Arkansas so you know trying to find a bed but can't come up with a right so he he didn't want to spend his whole dough on the homeless Benson Hotel so he had to. When I can't say I can't say anything? I took my wife on our honeymoon to Hawaii and I had six hundred bucks folks. We've been Hawaii through the first day. Don't that got me through the first hour. We had a money along with any welcome to marriage. Get strep throat. I have no money comes and you were too young to rent a car. So he's like he had to wait was five days till he turned twenty one as the longer Utah more. I'm beginning to understand. Wow the left wingers are calling us the deplorable it just a little Outside and no one hundred hours away. I had one hundred dollars that Paul gave me a hundred dollar bill and then we were in shreveport for the weekend and add to pay for the room. That foods away at Popeye's and McDonald's for every meal the rest of course would never left the room he's kind of the centerpiece. Because you know instead of make America great again out at the I L has a red trump like hat on that says make marriage rate. Your work are cut out for. Yeah y'all need dis. DIS is really. This is my wife share for what she does and the Little Hash Ashley. She put that so she wouldn't wear into we all do we all do. Yeah love the last time my God on one of these planes the last time. That was the exact plane. I had the earphones on. And so I'm listening to the you know the air traffic traffic control. They're like 'cause you're you're hearing all the the banter back and forth so it's kind of interesting it's just non donald clear for takeoff sir. Good to go right now. So they're doing all that. Well then I heard all of a sudden somebody say something about an emergency landing said that's and I'm like well all this is Co.. I'm listening to somebody having emergency landing. You know when I looked over at my young polit. Who is about twenty five in? He had he had turned five times wider than he started. And I thought Oh. We're having the emergency landing because we had just take. That was his voice. Say that we alanine emergency landing. Because I felt the plane go what happened. The fuel pump had gone out which I didn't know what him so low we use was the other day. No this this is this earlier me thank of the last time I got. I wanted these guys and so at that moment your and you got another one that I mean. Well I'm I'm getting to the end of this story joy. We're by the time the fight gears. It'd be done so I look back at missy. Because she was women but she didn't have the earphones on and she's you know oh she's smiling and side is though well. I don't want to break this to her. You know 'cause I met because I was GonNa have light my final words but I thought she's all happy view. No Houston so I went there and then I just thought I how do I feel about this and I thought okay. I'm ready. I feel fine. You know I I. It wasn't I wasn't terrified but I could tell that pilot. He was terrified. His hands were shaking. And so we just made a little loop Liu and we literally just like you know like the what. I- pitcher was you. Don't WanNa get while makes his mind He's come in and rate down. We went straight now. I literally felt something you know. Leave my my chest. It just straight down while at the medicine now. She's living La what do we do. We just took off the black yet. What was leaving your chest Son was you wasn't the Holy Spirit. Need data yeah we just Kinda went so and then he pulled it up a little bit and we just landed there was no coming in. He was landed. Ended without injury. Rob You didn't you didn't roll to a halt was a halt when you got it was it was a drop a check and then it was a bounce amount. We bounced about three or four times and he grant and I was like well. That was fun because it was over. We made it. WHOA that was actually perfect because then we had to get home and we wound up written a car? This guy wasn't a believer will after that wearing no wonder he's it. Got Five hours of explaining why I was so calm it was awesome but anyway use can can convert people right after an incident like hearts more open. Well he had questioned in you know and how the light you know what the biggest changes are Ryan live. I could tell he was like you know. I like your approach better than willies. Because any time I get a small plane with Willis's all right boys just so you know this thing goes down and we all die. Ah here's the way it's going to go down Willie. Robertson from Duck Dynasty was killed today and six others. There's just no where you stay. Go will say that you know this is my brother. Totally out there willy. All said I don't know how you got in that door hands gotten NBA. He just looked so we get You get to where you're going and you gave the speech. Yeah we get up and you know what actually getting us back on entree. It was a smooth ride. I give the speech and then I ran off with the Marshall Boys because they acquired a bunch of dot cotton property we go out in the middle of nowhere. You saw this the place where they. Oh Yeah I went. We've so was your what were you think. Oh it hot. Oh you know I I realized why Cape Eight Drago. It's in the middle of the Mississippi River Ohio River. The Ohio River were was where he was at but but it's right there close to the Mississippi River and I just the whole place on your water. We his camp on a no. And you're looking for miles. You're surrounded by water. The water is up by now by the way. Yeah well it's coming up Zemun and so anyway. We stayed up half night you know and then I got back on the plane comeback and no no problem but idea I did realize when you're because now I'm so into worship music that you know one of my fierce as a kid was heights. You know abrupt six flags. The first time I went because I thought it was gonNA be fun the first time I go coaster. I'm out on this. I didn't realize I was scared of heights on six flags on my own on picket heights. But what got me over. My fear of flying was that I uh Sloan is four when it says. We don't agree with wrist. I men have no hope and it goes through that scenario we bleed use dials rose again and we're GonNa meet the Lord in the air and I remember reading that thanking. I'M GONNA have to get over my fear of line and because this is everything my faith relies on me actually flying so no. I just made a decision right there. I thought I'm not going to be scared to fly. I if I'm going to share Jesus and by the way that was twelve hundred men. It was a men's event in Cape Girardeau. I didn't even know there. The population was that Twelve hundred men sold out so I shared Jesus and yeah I thought you know if I go down sure Jesus it's something like this. I mean lords and controllers is really not. It's worse it's really not a fear of flying as A. Yeah and I mean the only reason you have no when I get how I feel lose. No No I hate it. I hate to fly people say oh I love this I hate it but I don't have a fear of death and I'm like you so what happens is with me I say you know what if I'm on my way to speak to people about Jesus that's the ultimate place to go. If you DIS has like I'm a martyr they're gonna say what was he doing. You know going to a party. No he was going away. I know this is a crazy question. Yeah but I have some earphones on here. Yeah but but I'm hearing what you're saying without these own. Yeah so wild. I'll put these on just to hear your volume here if you're too loud or too soft. That's that's wow when people listen are pike as they say. Something's wrong with the sound. There's another on the sound hit. Because you're so far away from the MIC. Then you give back to it you say hey yeah see. This is not bring me any closer to the microphone. I know so this is now talk with the mown. Now Talk to three mccollough sound if you move back then you can't hear as well so that's telling you move closer to the Mike. I'm glad we're having this conversation. I I love. They were having it on. quit sending me emails saying would you tell your dad to get close. You Remember I. I usually back away as if it were or a cotton mouth. HI-TECH GADGETRY I'm dubious. Don't know we've noticed that some people fear flying. Some people feared high tech gadgets. So one of the things we talked about Another thing with the Internet is it is a dangerous place for our children. There's so so much stuff out there. This bad predators. There's even even the social networking concept is jase found out in his own family can turn into a bad deal. Because you know it's not they're just not mature enough to handle it. It will be like taking. You know you're the young kid and send them to a college university better than early age not not necessarily for the education but just the experience. Let's of everything going with her. Just not old enough mature enough to make good decisions so you you are illuminating. The fact that why don't I never fou- correct and so he had just looked at it and said I just don't here's what happens dad so you didn't have a problem home with with our generation because it wasn't available yet. The problem is with Jason. I for me is my grandkids. They know way more about this stuff than I know that to Jason's credit he's found out what you need to know because he's got teenage kids. I'm telling a adult children. You GotTa know this because your kids are come on so we need help. 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Meet Circle like you're you're advising people to do our take the thing and throw it in the river and you down with. That's an option ago. Yeah there's ops. There's your options though Amal and the river to begin with so I'm not. I don't have to worry about this but so most people do with it. So you need to meet circle and Protection Ortho all your devices in the river so you decide beside the let me finish much noise so we'll wind up getting by but I don't sleep podcast. Get back Saturday at two o'clock. Why lie immediately go to sleep? I hadn't slept or eaten in over twenty four hours and so I sleep half the day. Well then I can't sleep Saturday night. So that wound up study Indian Dumas lesson for our worship class. I went to bed at like five thirty. Got Up at seven and so then my wife is like why don't you go metal tech's and you've been on the road you know and I'm like why. Why does she won't meet ago metal detecting but she wanted me to go out to our our Plantation and take pictures. Yeah the alterior motive. So I thought that was weird. Are you go metal detecting today was like while it didn't plan on it. I think you should. Oh and why while you're out there let's take some pitches. What does the one? Oh one there that's the Almeida give Give the lesson I gave. I won't talk about John. I really wanted. How about this? We get another podcast to do. But I will say this as a tab the other thing just when you were talking about getting on that plane as I've gotten older. I've got like super claustrophobic. So when you were just saying that I mean I was like fell my assistant. She was which is good? I got a small one game in which is family. She's missing San. I didn't want people think I'm gallivanting across the country with another woman I am but she's family. Yeah that's what she said she said. I feel so closed off but I was like I gotta get home. This worship music. Ah Yes actually exhilarating to do something that you used to fear. But now you're overcoming it because you believe in the resurrection. You'RE GONNA fly in the air to meet Jesus in new put on some of these songs in your. It's actually I said that's why I'm so giddy and plus they couldn't hear me so I was singing. Look as loud as a coup which turned out to be silly silly because by the time I got to the event I almost lost my voice voice over and she said well you were singing at the top of your long while. We're on the plane. Because you know my inner man. Dan was a little still frightful. You know so. I'm singing these worship songs but anyway for my class. What we're doing? I thought this was a this was encouraging 'cause yesterday let's roar class. Yeah we have class because my wife and I formed a A team I guess. We're we're the worship leaders now. I guess that's the correct term or praise leader versa. So we have a class called the holy oral. We had a visiting group that they do the same thing and Eldorado Arkansas and they visited our church because they had heard about it on podcast and they want to see what was going on. I love it. They were way better than us. And our class practice. I mean they sound like this majestic and we were learning this Nissan. No wonder you over so good way maker which is a real popular song. You get these folks up to sing. Well they saying with us we were in the class. I'll give a lesson and I do something along with Dan L. stages they said no no. They weren't so we sang a song. Yesterday what we do. Is we learn a new song. We sang redeemed by the blood yesterday. With all the people are into worship. It's I think they're called people in songs. Pretty simple and so then once we do a song together part of the team we then we did one that a day you came in preach you remember when we all got up and saying so we do a new one about every six or seven weeks very good and we practice in the meantime course. We're boldly going where no churches gone before. We're actually taking cappella music because our first services ach -veloping more we're taking contemporary songs and transforming them into something. You can do acapella where it's not cheesy. It's actually cool. It takes a lot of work takes a lot of talent and it takes a lot of people that's why we have the worship class and the energy that comes from there will. I'll give the lesson everybody's got another row. I kind of share exciting stuff with a focus on Jesus get everybody fired up and then we practice our songs. You know. It's it's it's a good little system we got going but yesterday before so that we had those visiting what we I also. This is weird at eight o'clock practicing. Could we practice for an hour. If we're going to you know before we get up well there was a guy that came up and I'm I knew he wasn't part of the team. You know big muscle up on tattoos on the arm but he was coming torment. I thought well there's no security there at eight which sounds horrible but with you know at our church we have security and they got you know we have a lot of people show up. Just you know from the show and fans and we've had a few that you know then have get intention so I'm looking around like who is this guy. And he stuck his hand. He's like you know I'm I'm Dylan. And I'm from South Alabama. I said well. What are you doing here? At eight o'clock he said well I don't want you to think I'm some weird crazy dynasty fan and and what I've noticed is when somebody says that usually they're a weird eared crazy dynasty. He said but I came over yesterday and went out to size house. I said well let me just interrupt you if you drove. Oh from Alabama and you wind up its size. House uninvited. Euro Weirdo told him. Well that is weird. The main watch a reality show and three years after it's over. I go up and the craziest one I go figure out where his house is not pull up in his yard and he said well no but it's good it's good hanging out. It was good and he said well. I listen to AL's podcast and I realized you know my life was just not where it needs to be. He's a police officer in Alabama and He said I just thought I'd come over here and try to get my life right now like that. You know even though you're right. They're energetic this because because you don't know this probably I. He came out here and of course you know. There's a gate up here. The kind of box a can't get to mom and dad's house so he winds up driving over to the lair and stone. My son in law is in the layer with Dan. And they're working on a tire one of the you know Sabbath Stone. He's military vet it or not veteran. He's a HE'S A. How would you describe him? He's he's not the Kinda guy feel like that he wants someone to like. Try got a break in his house so he can show you. That was a bad idea. He's the Kinda guy that it takes time to win his trust exactly. Yeah so so dillon. They found this out yesterday. Stone he comes up to the thing and they're in their work and so he's just all right outside the bay doors standing there like when you saw so so sees him over. But I didn't know this but yeah I know you didn't know that's why I wanted to tell it because this makes it even funnier and And they'll be wiped. I'm sure so you can appreciate it. So he's standing there outside. The Bay installing looks over and sees them and he says. Can I help you with something you know in Classic Stone Face Stone and he was. I cannot come in there you know. He didn't want to just walk in. He's police how sleep by and stones did well. It depends and he said what he said. What your intentions are? So this is this is I was like well. They're good I. I was just trying to get to feel and style Wahine here. He come in here. He's just basically running him off and so finally he comes in and he says you can come in so he tells them kind of what he was bored as to why. I don't know what today I don't know where. So then he leaves their. And that's I guess when he wound up at size now he went into cise current. This is a great story other way while you're there I don't really know where I think it would be behoove us all and the twist and turns of live the current situation where there are a up people just coming into houses of worship and shooting up the place right. Yeah everyone as understand but it makes one and remember the Jesus the most off said thing they ever said. Don't fear right. Don't don't fear and let let me you say this getting on an airplane. You're there some guy comes to the it's a difference between being paranoid right and prepare limited. Arnie is that he was a police officer. I know let me say this though. If because somebody else may have an idea just gonNA show up if you will send me an email al at duck commander dot com Prodi's remember OUT AT DUCK COMMANDER DOT com. We would love to have you come. I mean to know you're coming in and to set it up but it's better if you let me know because this is what happens if you just show up because we have had some instable right when you declare Jesus as Lord in a public way you will be persecuted there are there will people threaten and not only that they will do the more than threatened they will show up with evil Italian remember there there will always be enemies of the cross and if you look carefully at the first first century the era where now discussing every week and before the end if you go back two thousand years during the Roman Empire Days I mean most of these people who who spoke out for Jesus mouth as these people most of them were killed. Yeah Oh yeah yeah I mean that. was their reward member when when Jesus told Peter Look when you were young Jewish yourself and go where you wanted to. He's a Peter later by the way. This is the last part of the book John He said but There come a time when you get old and somebody else will dress you and take you where you don't Wanna go. Well Dan. John says he he was the reason. He said that he was showing Peter. What kind of death? He would undergo to glorify God other words their deaths for the calls were considered a Gore fixation of God. You died art history. Did well history not the Bible but there are some historical documentation that leads you to believe that when they did crucify Peter. He requested that he be crucified upside down because he didn't want to do the same thing as Jesus he wasn't worthy even die because so dad and I saw the spot. Supposedly you know inside the Vatican area where that actually happened you know. They haven't marked. I don't know if it was a wood so let me finish the bills. You know when a guy knocks on his door side kind of had the first response like j what are you. What are you doing here you know and The guy was like well you know. I'm just WANNA meet Y'all big family. I want to get my life. Right will saw shares Jesus with and so. That's why he showed up at eight o'clock doc. The morning he said. I didn't even know what time y'all started inside. And no which I thought was weird. Goes there but But cy wouldn't knows because he asked me so so that that mournful we're practice and he said I was just GonNa see if somebody baptize me. You know for. I go back to Alabama because I you know I I made a commitment to the Jesus said also also old. I said they'll have an invitation so you won't you think about it because I'm always like when somebody's ready I I kind of like almost are talk about of it just to make sure they're ready you know and so I went through it again. And he's like. Oh Yeah same thing you know I went over. I was like awesome so he did. He ended up responding. I felt bad yesterday because one of the pastors came up to me. And they said we'll just go and taking back there you know like he whispered in my here but I thought it was such a cool story I wanted to share but I should've. I should've submitted to what he was saying. What happened? I told him well I got him up and I told the story which I thought was also but then here comes. I'm like Oh boy oh boy. He's all fired. Well then cy like when I took him back actor where he grabs the microphone out of my hand and then I thought this is bad. I'm glad I'm getting out of here because we had to go. I hear side dish ranting. Eighteen hours listen to hash. Go back there. Baptized canalside has the MIC. So finally we wrestle the microwave from Cy Easy Allen L. and it's incoherent but he's just excited and and the churches laughing everybody knows So is funny. So then Jay's baptism after we have a couple other responses Jay's baptize again everybody's cheering and clapping I did a sigh is on. He sat down there on the front row. He's just yellen. Could you hear you know. Everybody was clapping. He's just I hate. He's my name rather he just went. Well they asked me about my brother. Side After the so the audience will understand. Everyone was being filmed in our family. And all the way down amount from me side to my sons daughters wives Miss Kay. Everybody and the conclusion reached after four or five years of the show that there was one man that actually had the talent to be on a reality show and they said Sarah version. They pointed to him. They said because we when most people will stop at a certain point and not step over that line and make a complete fool of himself. Take your brother will go home step across the line. What do you think about that? I said well stupidity maybe and I said you know not he said No. That's that's what you call in Hollywood talent. I said I have learned the difference between y'All's view of talent and man but they said it's actually talent Taleh when a guy will go and run up to the line. It's didn't stepping over and acted like a food. He'll do it. I've asked the question all over America. Who's your favorite personal as D.? The inanity presented the Damn Alkali Star of the show. And we'll look so I go in a martial class. I did because I stayed up all night studying this cause and I shared this south one of the recent podcasts About here and that that Simon from the water to the wilderness which was a focus on. Jesus's baptism what happened. You Know God says this is my son whom Allah with a memorial pleased. The spirit descends on him this before is ministry. Then the Holy Spirit then takes him to the wilderness. He's tempted by the evil and he gets down at the end. There were no miracles up to that point pericles at that point. I'm making that point because God was saying that and it was before his awesome performance went in and I was raveling that to win. We're baptize I think. The same thing happened. You know the spirit you get the end of the Holy Spirit. I believe you've just like what happened with. Jesus God is declaring those things. This is my son or daughter if somewhat whom I love and this pleases if someone had told me you're going down. And the new birth coming to fruition with your faith and the death burial resurrection senator. Jesus your reenacted at a pool of water God gives you a spirit if someone told me By the way feel from that point on you will reach thousands thousands of people. I would have said you you talking to me to rank heathen and I said you won't be waving a Bible around. How are you nuts? It never occurred to me what was fixing to transpire. Yeah I was stunned. HIS HIS ACT BE. I'm like Whoa in front of me here today. And board. If you told me back in my heathen days this is habit up out of said impossible no way let me give this lesson so yes to add Marsha Plaza. I went to Colossians one and I just did a real quick summary of Colossians and you know who Jesus is clashes one fifty and he's the image in the visible God and then chapter. Two nights is in Christ all the fullness of the deities basically a mirror collages one and two of John Wine which we all the all the dot lives in bodily form you know God dis the Holy Spirit in in Jesus which are then went back to the baptism because you had those three parties there again. Yeah Jesus our Lord God speaking the father and the Holy Spirit coming on him And then you had the baptism here their NFL Colossians two Verse Twelve you know having been buried with him in baptism leftism raised with him through your faith And the council. He cancelled the code. You know freedom whatever so you get to Colossians three and it says since just then you have been raised with Christ set your hearts on things. Above which when you think about what we do when we sing together. That's what we're doing together. Now we do it in our in our normal life and he goes on to say set your mind on things above not worsely things for you died in your life is now hidden in Christ. He then goes back over the same ground put to death. Whatever belongs your sinful nature and then he gets to verse twelve and thirteen and he talks about the fruits of the spirit at once again? Clothe yourselves with compassion kindness humility gentleness and patience. So I said all that to say this It then says your members of the same anybody in Verse Fifteen. Let the piece of Chrysler in your heart centers members of one body. You were called peace. So we're all united in Jesus as one body and then it says this you so what's do a singing and praising let the word of Christ dwell in you richly as you teach and admonish one another with all wisdom as you sing psalms hymns and spiritual all songs with gratitude in your hearts to God so what I did was I went back with this idea of the water in the Wilderness. You're like this. I went back to the example of the Israelites when God led them through the Red Sea to me. That was the water moment if you look at compared to Jesus's baptism because you know what happened. After that moment right they went into the Wilderness for forty years. So but that moment which is captured in exodus. Fifteen only have two more passages and then I'll see what y'all think. I went to exit his fifteen. And because what happened after can you imagine I mean here. You're being chased. This is a situation where the dead. And you're being chased by an army your fixed be slaughtered and then all of a sudden God literally opens up to see and you walk on dry land than the army's come in and then the waters crashed while what happened. What was their response? What happened was in Exodus Fifteen? You had the Song Moses and Maryland. They began to sing because they were so excited. And the the guy was on their side it triggered that so I was using this worship classes. We that's what we use singing together. We're excited about what we have in. Jesus he's the time to sing. Yeah time to sing and look that prepares us for going out into the Wilderness. The rest of the week. I was making that comparison so well I read a little bit of the song that Moses read in Exodus fifteen it says I'll I will sing the Lord free as might a highly exalted the Horse Horse and its rider he is hurled into the sea. I mean because that's what just happened. The Lord is my strength and my song he has become a salvation. Of course I'm reading. They were seeing He is my God and I will praise Him Fathers God and I will exalt him and then I love this verse three the Songs Long Long but I just wanted to get this verse three says the Lord is a warrior the Lord is his name. Nulla you get down to verse twenty. And here's Miriam. Which is Moses sister? Look then Miriam the prophetess Aza define that profit is is one who teaches and declares uh-huh Aaron sister she took a tambourine on her hand and all the women followed her with tambourines and dancing. Maryam signed to them seem to the Lord for he is highly exalted so she leads all the women. The now the reason I bring that up is because in numbers this. This is the only less than I ever did where I went to numbers but in numbers chapter twelve we had a situation. And I'm Oh I'M GONNA get to my point. I'm giving avenue. Melissa did in the Worship Class but in numbers twelve Moses had married a woman from its said she was a cush. And Miriam didn't didn't like that. And when you you know if you Google this you'll see where all the controversy comes in on this because when you Google Kusei will. It was a tribe in Ethiopia Africa. So you start putting two and two together and say what she didn't like this yes 'cause either she was a stranger she wasn't from here or maybe because she was black. You know I mean. That's the kind of things start going through your mind. But in essence she didn't like it and I want to read t what happened and the reason I read that first part is 'cause she was a leader she was her and Erin and you can do your own research. They were basically the worship worship praise leaders in the whole Israel movement. You Know Moses was the spokesman and they were you know leading them in songs and different thing which is bad design because Moses. Roses didn't feel like he had that in him member. He didn't even WanNa do it right. Couldn't speak with so look what happens. So she didn't like it and it says has the Lord spoken only this is numbers twelve to has the Lord spoken only through Moses. They asked hasn't he also spoken through us. Look the Lord heard this. 'cause she's out there Downing Moses about Marian this woman that God had approved you get that real quickly now verse three it says. No Moses was a very humble man more humble than anyone else on the face of the earth what a statement. That's his time in verse. Four at once. The Lord said to Moses Aaron and Miriam Y'all come up to the ten of meeting all three of you so the three of them came out then. The Lord came down pillar of cloud. He stood at the interest interest of the tent and summoned Aaron. And Miriam. Oh you never wanna be summoned by the Lord that good when both of them step forward he said. Listen to my my words when a prophet of the Lord is among you. I reveal myself to him envisions. I speak to him in dreams. But this is not true of my servant Moses. So I think at this point they think oh so. He's done like this either and then watch this next statement with him. I speak face to face clearly and not in riddles. He sees the form of the Lord. Why then were you not afraid to speak against my servant Moses? This is in a moment. He said you you shouldn't have been speaking against him. Then the anger of the Lord Barnard against them and he left them when the cloud lifted from above the tent there stood. Miriam leprous like snow. Aaron turn toward her and saw that she had leprosy any eventually eventually to finish the story he prayed and the Lord made it last seven days but here we are look. She has a problem with where this woman is from. And maybe what color skin is and so the lower and she's running her mouth about it to other people into the Lord Structure Down with the condition that affects the skin. I I just think that that's a little much for coincidence. But my point is and you. So why am I reading this. And why. What's the point of all this because when I read all that in Colossians net review before we sing together there was one key phrase that now it is highlighted in my mind? It says let the peace of Christ Colossians three fifteen ruling your hearts since as members members of one body you were called to peace and be thankful let the word of Christ dwell in you richly as you teach teach and admonish one. Another with all wisdom in Psalms Hymns and spiritual songs. We usually don't think of teaching each other through Song Song but here was a point where here's a woman who is leading songs for God but she had violated a fundamental pillar of who we are as sons and daughters of God that were all made in the image of God want one race where one. That's exactly right our human race. God chastised her and he You know gave her a reminder that we're all one doesn't doesn't matter on skin INCO- Shabbat brought that up to say that I think singing is is medicine for the soul all to mentally it leads us to the healer. which is Jesus what we have in Christ and that was the point in collage? And that's where we're leading people toward because a lot of people can sing and their mom their hearts can be a million miles is way from Jesus but when you're singing with that as your focus and we're doing it together as the human race as far as forgiven you know one one color. The Red Blood of Jesus girls that woolmer teaching into monitoring each other to the big pitcher so that was the Gist Malla. And I'd say I would expand on that and say part of the problem was the another reason God punished. Her is in. We'd have the same problem with Aaron back at the Golden Golden Calf. Is that because you know they are. Moses was gone and so you know where he's GonNa be coming back. So Moses Aaron winds up leading leading the people to do this golden calf that they all bow down to which got a lot of people killed so the another problem within that family unit was dishonesty and not trusting so part of the problem was I mean I think you're right some of the The since he obviously is tells us about this probably racism deal but it was also just idea that they would just throw Moses under the bus pretty easily Hilas so problem there. They've they were talking about him behind the but what's looking N which I. It's hard to the leadership right. You can't problem you go to them and tell you by the way by the way someone walked up to me a couple of weeks ago. Oh and said You know Dwayne back there and I looked back toward the back. They pointed big African American guy. He it has no home. He just sleeps under bridges he had been with us about a year and every once in a while someone will come up and bring Dewayne up you know because the laws of arrested him for whatever you know so we we work in with him you know will let him know. We loved him after about a year. He sends somebody down at a Tammy said Till brother field. I want him to baptize me today. So look this says guy who is does not have access to a whole lot of soap soap and water sleeping under a bridge. It is very much. So so. Here's a guy who does not smell good. He's been sleeping under bridges but he says with with determination when I said WHO's going to be the Lord of your laughed away from this step further. I have him in the the pool of water in fixing to baptize you and so he confessed. Jesus in front of all the brothers air and I. I did note that they all broke out. One are baptized him. They all broke out in sound gays. they started singing a song. Wow you know you know way myself. They style started seeing it on behind but a year earlier it would have been easy to say. Well he just coming in here for the food y'all have and really. He's you see what I'm saying. They begin to say his motives. Motives may not sincere. y'All got a big meal plan and it's for everybody out okay with sleeping on top of the bridge hundred said but we gotta meal here. It's you know Fried Fried Chicken in the morning. You know doughnuts so there's an easy to dismiss people like that but you'd think about it you say The the the water without any soap at all and he came out clenched. I said you know what I'm saying. I said Ed. At that event the other night at Cape Girardeau. They had two guys they were Kinda Mathu man band and they were saying and spiritual songs for they were my intro but I notice those twelve hundred guys is out there. I noticed that probably half the people weren't singing. I have the guy's an Othello Because it wasn't like I mean they were seeing I'll fly away you know Modern Song so I got the first thing I said. I said I noticed. Half of you weren't singing. I said now I hope by the end of what I got to say. That your love for Jesus Christ will far outweigh putting songs on your embarrassment of singing out loud now. I said because I'm at a point in my lot. Not that I'm better than anybody. Because we're all centers. They all amen that. I said but I'm at a point where I just can't help open the I'm so excited about what we have in. Jesus oh I just can't help it even though I can't technically saying oh I'm melting in and out and that's when I tell the story about the crop duster on the way up there so victorious people say two things we got to run but two things I don't know about that one is that it's you're the perfect one to baptism either smells because you can't smell anything. So the Almighty knew that number one number two that plus I go on four or five day Australia. Yeah we got thing is I love it that the Church that dad is is is the plant that he's working with every weekend mom. It's amazing what they do is that they baptize the people. That when you're getting out said hey stay in their mental Bibarsov while you're in there. But but the idea that the untouchables troubles in the unlovable. So the people that come in. And that's what Jesus did so. That's a great example of of why we do what we do so Good stuff today. Man That was was what the journey that started out from airplanes to to where we wound up a homeless man with no place to go and not knowing where his next meal is GonNa come from now becomes a son of God member of the Kingdom all brother thank the Lord touches and they just turned themselves in like the guy from Alabama liked liked fellow. It's a beautiful thing. Most of the time we got to go to them. So we gotta go from the water to the Wilderness. You'll recall this podcast. The water to the WOOLMER's. Today's I'm preaching then into we good. Oh that's when you're going away live you've asked about it so I'm preaching this Sunday's undies. Some of you livestream. We do it if you're not from around. Here is Debbie if our church Dot Org Jason up the week after that so it kind of goes in with that. I had a lot of people some visit their their yesterday. I said man I love the podcast I watch you guys. And then some of them are close enough they had a deal might end up for the having. This many proclaim irs Willie japs what he's doing out of one family group pretty amazing. It's now that I think it was in the got ago connects down. We are so glad you're watching and listening to the unashamed. PODCAST be sure to like us on facebook. Subscribe on Youtube. You've been at tunes that's GonNa keep up today with all the new episodes and also let other people find out about our podcast. 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Smash Boom Best

42:32 min | 2 years ago

Venus vs Jupiter

"From the brains behind brains on its smash boom best the show for people with big opinions. I'm molly bloom and this is smashed boom best the show where we take take two things smash them together and ask you to decide which is best today we're blasting off leaving Earth's orbit and grabbing front row seats to a completely out of this world interplanetary smackdown grab some popcorn and make sure your spacesuit is fully depressurized. It's Venus Verses Jupiter. I definitely think that Venus would win. If you wouldn't get burned up by the glasses you could probably jump into the top of Jupiter unlike fallout like the bottom part you know Venus the goddess of love so I'd have to say Venus definitely like when you see Jupiter you can like very quickly say oh that's Jupiter only planet named after a woman I love it is beautiful. I'M GONNA have to give that one to Jupiter. Just 'cause I mean it's the biggest planet in the solar system. which is I mean? That's just cool by itself. Which Planet will the crown the smash boom bust will it be the volcanic planet next door Venus or larger than Life Jupiter with its trademark red spot? Thankfully we have a very qualified judge today to help us decide. Hello Ana Hi thank. He's a much for having me. Thank you for being here so we thought that you would be the perfect judge for today's debate because you spent a lot of time thinking about planets yes I do. I've been philosophy years been doing a research on exoplanets which are planets orbit other stars and I've been trying to figure out whether we might be missing any planets by seeing if we can squeeze anymore in between the ones that we've already found that is amazing. So how do you do that. Yes so you know gravity's the thing same thing that pulls us out down on earth is also also the thing that keeps planets orbiting around their stars and I did was see if you added more planets in between ones that we'd already found so for example analyzing our system one between us and Mars then I wanted to see that if you put a plant right there whether the gravity of between the planet to be so strong that it would change the orbits or the past the planets take or that you could put in another planet sort of without noticing any differences and that's how I was trying to find whether or not we might be missing planets. Oh my my goodness that is very impressive and you. You won a prize for this work right. Yes I just won the regeneration science talent search <hes> formerly known as the Westinghouse Science talent search congratulations that is a very very big deal and I just WanNa know. How did you get interested interested in space well? I really loved solving problems especially ones that are really big and really interesting and space is full of them and I particularly got interested in planets when I learned about <hes> predicted planet nine in our own slur system so these were researchers at Caltech that we're finding planets are predicting planets with math and I was so interested in that I wanted to know whether that will be possible in other solar systems that is amazing well today today we are sticking to our solar system for the debate and I want to check in with you just before we get started. Do you have strong feelings about Jupiter or Venus already. I have some feelings about Jupiter mostly because of inexperience I had with my own research my first inauguration of my research I was trying to view it with basically practicing with our own solar system and let's say I'd I sort of forgot to include Jupiter and my research some interesting results that did not catch until the very end <hes> but you know it's become a positive thing for me. I think you know it's it's very balanced and I think I'll be able to be impartial for this debate excellent. I'm sure our debaters will be very happy to hear that. So do you ever get into debates with your friends or family. Yeah we definitely get into a debate. You know it's good to share your ideas and practice testing them out against other people's so when you do have debates with your friends or family what is your strategy for winning. I always try to make sure that my arguments are fact-based as a scientist. I like having a lot of data so that I can see the trends see the impacts and I'd like to have in a lot of data and facts to back up my arguments all right well. Let's meet our stellar debaters here to rep that gase a giant Jupiter. It's Kasha Patel Hello Kasha in just one sentence. Why is Jupiter the planet Earth Leans should root for because it's the biggest planet out there that we know of inner solar system and now arguing are too hot to inhabit but next door neighbor Venus? It's Tommy McNamara Aloma excited to be here Tommy. Why is Venus the coolest? It's bright. It's hard it's full of volcanoes. What's not to love excellent before we fire up our engines for liftoff? Let's review the four rounds rounds of debate I up. It's the declaration of greatness. It's the debaters chance to present all the coolest facts about their side round. Two is the micro round. It's a creative challenge that the debaters prepared for in advance then it's the sneak attack jack a different surprise challenge every episode and the last round is the final six when both teams have to sum up all the things that make their side great in just six words after each round on will award a point to the debater that she thinks the best and she won't reveal a winter until the very end but hey you might have a different opinion so keep track of your points while you're listening you can download a custom scorecard now and cast your vote after the episode all at Smash Boom Dot Org all right Ana. Are you ready to decide which is cooler Venus or Jupiter. Yes I'm ready and how about you debaters. Are you feeling confident and ready. Yes very confident. Yes very excited very very good because it's time for our first round declaration of greatness both debaters have done their homework and they're about to drop some deep space knowledge on us. We flipped a coin and Tommy you're up first. Let's hear your declaration of Greatness for team. Venus esteemed judge I stand before you today with a simple argument. Not only Venus a better planet than Jupiter Venus is the greatest planet and the entire solar system first of all. Let's talk looks. Venus is the most beautiful planet so beautiful that was named after the Roman Goddess of love and beauty Venus is so beautiful that all the way back in the seventeenth century B._C.. Babylonian Bolognaise started charting its movements which is basically the ancient astronomer equivalent of following it on instagram. Did you see what Venus is doing in the sky. You mean looking amazing all the time yeah. Is it possible to be in. I love with a planet Venus than yes a very much. Yes the reason it's so visually appealing is that it's the brightest object in our solar system after the Sun and the moon the clouds of Venus reflect seventy percent of the sunlight that reaches it. More than any other planet it's so bright that many people have confused it for a star earning it the nicknames Morning Star and evening star Venus has real starpower earth has a special connection with Venus in fact Venus's often referred to as earth sister planet because the to have a ton in common both are terrestrial planets which means that they're made of hard rock and medals both are similar in size both like taking taking long walks on the beach scientists believed that billions of years ago earth and Venus had similar climates but let's just say the two planets grew up to form their own identities. How well I'll let them explain it? I'm Venus and I'm earth. We have a lot in common in fact sometimes we even finish each other's solar systems or total twinsies. We have similar mass and density in Ra both close to the sun but I'm like really close to the sun so I'm hot. Stop bragging no like really hot. I'm talking over eight hundred degrees Fahrenheit O._M._G.. How okay so first of all I get much closer to the sun in my rotation during Earth's earth's rotation? It's an average of ninety two point nine six million miles from the sun but during my rotation the average is only sixty seven point two four million these numbers are giving me brain freeze. I could use some of that. My atmosphere fear is mostly made up of carbon dioxide also known as C O two which causes a greenhouse effect basically my atmosphere traps heat and light from the sun and that's why our climates are so different plus. I'm covered in sulfuric clouds which make it hard to see my surface hot and mysterious. You're right Venus. We are different. Does this mean we're not twinsies. Let's just say we're fraternal. The climate isn't the only thing that makes Venus unique Venus rotates counterclockwise unlike every other planet in the solar system it also rotates very slowly like rush hour traffic on a holiday weekend slow each trip around the sun takes Venus two hundred twenty five birthdays another thing that sets us apart is that it doesn't have any moons and rings. It doesn't need the extra flare what Venus does have is. Volcanoes Venus has more volcanoes than any other our planet in the solar system volcanoes Venus would starbucks to Earth <hes> yeah. Could I get a double venti volcano with extra magma coming right up. It may sound like nothing could ever survive on Venus but some scientists have a different idea last year an international group of scientists published a study saying they believe the lower cloud layer of Venus could have favorable conditions for microbial life. What I'm saying here is some scientists believe Venus could have cloud aliens since Venus used to have a climate similar to earth the scientists hypothesize that life could have began on the surface of Venus then migrated up to the clouds about thirty miles up in the atmosphere? Are you freaking out. I'm freaking out. I'm not the only one who loves Venus. Venus has been admired and depicted and cultures for Millennia Nia and not just in science fiction Venus is actually one of the items in the sky and the painting starry night by Vincent Van Gogh. You may not know it by name you can picture a dreamy swirly oil painting of a city at nighttime under the light of the stars. Let me say that again for the folks with a one year. Venus is in Van Gogh Venus was also written about by some of the best poets of All Time Robert Frost Alfred Lord Tennyson homer Virgil but hey famous poets aren't the only ones who gets arrambide Venus in fact. I'm an aspiring poet myself. So here's a poem I wrote about Venus that I am debuting on the show today Venus in the sky you shine so bright temperature day is same as night thousands of volcano span. You're beautiful mass and you're terrestrial unlike Jupiter which is just a bunch of gas your family to Earth we call you are sister. Even though you're atmospheric pressure would crush US humans like a blister and sure your clouds rain sulfuric toxic acids down but you're our goddess our queen you wear the Crown Venus you shine Mike Our son and our moon. We hope to hang out with your cloud aliens. Please snap the facts history original poetry Venus may be small but this planet knows how to pack a punch so Ana. What did you think what part of Tommy's declaration of greatness impressed you the most yeah what was actually really interesting to learn that it's part of starry night <hes> my mother's actually an art teacher and so I've been looking at starring since I was a little kid so to learn that when my favorite paintings also has Venus and that's you know that's pretty cool but is very cool and the phrase cloud aliens Hans is going to be stuck in my head forever all right now? We're going to give team Jupiter a chance to respond Kasha. You have thirty seconds for your rebuttal starting now Venus's lame. I just WANNA say as twenty-first-century three seven Est.. There's more to life than looks. It's not just all about how beautiful you are. Also you said it moves really slow in counterclockwise. That's not cool. You're just confused. That's like a bunch of ballerinas in harmony onstage but you have one over there. Just going the wrong lane messing up for everybody else. You also talk about how cool the volcanoes are volcanoes lender active are dangerous and if they're not active. They just look like a bunch of rocks. That's super boring you also time Kasha Asia is now your turn to deliver a declaration of greatness convince us that Jupiter is the solar systems smash boom best welcome boys and girls to one of the most anticipated out of this world matchups of this podcast cast season first contender around eleven times larger than its opponent and the largest in gaseous planet in our solar system nicknamed the gas giant Joepat. Our second contender is weight. This can't be right. Jupiter is going up against this puny planet okay. Our second contender is much less notable but we needed to fill time. It's Venus. Gino's let's get ready to rumble so this matchup is almost not fair. How can you compare the most powerful planet in our solar system to a planet that most people forget exists just by sheer side Jupiter wins? If you added up the mass of all the other planets in our solar system Jupiter is still more than twice as large it weighs about about three hundred and nine hundred times more than Venus. That's like comparing an elephant to a raccoon and to be clear. Venus is the trash eating radio carrying Raccoon Jupiter is also one of the reasons that Venus and earth Earth Mercury and Mars for that matter exists. Don't believe me let me tell you a story it all started four point six billion years ago when our solar system was just a swirling cloud of dust and gas as these materials crashed into each other they'd form clumps eventually these clumps combined to form bigger and bigger clumps. This is how our son started to form when the sun was almost fully formed. It's still had had leftover material and decided to be a kind friend to other potential planets. The Sun said I have a lot of dust and gas that I didn't need for my formation. I'll just leave it out here. In case anyone else wants to use it any takers and and there was one taker jest in the same way the sun was formed this gas and dust material started to condense and become a gas planet. The Planet said all use this to become the biggest planet in the solar system and in so Jupiter was created from the sun leftover gas and dust Jupiter was ecstatic in ventured out into our solar system but it was so big that it destroyed other new planets forming in its path that may sound terrible but the debris breed from those destroyed baby planets were actually some of the construction materials used to create Venus. Wow you mean I oh my existence to Jupiter. Thanks Jupiter these construction materials girls were also helpful informing Earth Mercury and Mars without Jupiter those planets might never have existed and the cool thing about Jupiter is it keeps looking after us. Jupiter's gravity acts like a bodyguard hard for earth remember gravity. It's the force that planets us to draw objects towards their centers like if you drop an apple on earth it falls to the ground that's because gravity is pulling it down well. Jupiter's gravity is much stronger than Earth's is like two and a half times stronger. It's gravity actually pulls objects like asteroids or comets away from Earth and can even tear them into shreds or sometimes Jupiter will just let the comet hit it. It's big enough and can take it if it weren't worked for Jupiter Earth would get hit much more frequently by things in space jubilee goes in for the punch and pounds that come into dust this gas giant is large and in charge Jupiter also helps satellites explorer solar system remember when we sent a satellite mission all the way to Pluto a few years ago while the satellite actually stopped by Jupiter to get a speed boost imagine jupiter like a friend who is picking you up and throwing you farther into space scientists call this boost a gravity assist as a spacecraft approaches Jupiter and enters the planet's gravitational field the spacecraft essentially steals some of Jupiter's momentum and gains a boost of energy the help shoot it forward Lord these speed boosters help reduce the duration of a satellite mission and the amount of fuel needed which saves a lot of money Jupiter has donated energy to at least ten different space vehicles in the last three decades and and last but not least Jupiter's the coolest planet because it might just be our greatest chance for finding alien life and maybe one day in the far far future a second home for earthlings. No we can't live on Jupiter in fact we can't even stand on it. It's a big ball of gas so we would sink right through and then be crushed by the intense pressure from inside the planet but Jupiter has more than seventy five moons in some of those might support life. Europa is one of them scientists think this ice covered moon could have the three necessary ingredients for Life Water Chemistry and energy scientists have been able to study your roof already but NASA and the European Space Agency are planning additional missions to study this moon in the next few years. Picking Jupiter is a no brainer. It's been around for a long time protecting earthlings and helping US explore the outer reaches of our solar system and one day might even provide us a new home. I'm not sure how Venus is going to recover from this peak down. This seems like a knockout big talk from big planet. What did you you think on any memorable moments in there well? I think the gravity assist part is really important because if we're going to go explore planets out on the edge of our solar system having something to slingshot ours are spacecraft's further into space is going to be re is really unhelpful and is going to continue to be really helpful so that was very interesting. That's right she gets it. Well don't worry team Venus. We're going to give you a chance to respond you have thirty seconds for a comeback in your rebuttal starts now okay first of all you said that Venus was forgettable on a literally forgot about Jupiter in her research project so I think I win that one and okay. This just confirmed everything I think about you but it's just a big mean bully and it's just picking on everyone at seventy five moons. That's too much. That's greed gluttony. I don't appreciate it and I think it's and also okay. Here's something to say you said <hes> you said. The Venus is a is a raccoon. First of all raccoons are cool and second of all. You're the one who was basically we made up songs bomb fired up now son's vomit for scientific term Yeah uh-huh Oh man well that is the end of our first fierce round which means it's time to award point so ana. I want you to take a minute to reflect on everything you heard think about which side presented the best facts which side was the most persuasive if but above all which debater convinced you their planet is the coolest listeners at home you mull it over to and once you've decided markdown appoint for this round but on a don't say out loud okay. I'll keep it secret. Did you decide ANA. I did was it a hard decision. It was tough but I think I landed on the right decision. Okay we are going to give our debaters quick break while we flex our logical thinking skills don't go anywhere because does smashed room best. We'll be right back your watching date of debate home to rage in rhetoric and all firing argumentation Todd Douglass here ah ten time debate champ along with my co-host Taylor Lincoln who is a eleven eleven time debate champ. What can I say my arguments sleigh wealth? Let's get down to it today. We're following a mind bending debate in Strawberry Aubrey Point Iowa between a pigeon named Linda and a chicken named sue. They are debating an age old question. Listen Linda. I just read a peer reviewed academic paper that supports my argument. The egg came first and then the chicken. I'll email it to you. That just doesn't make sense. How can an egg them? I when you need a chicken to make one evolutionary biologists explain it like this at some point to pro chickens made it then the agde made contain the first modern chicken so the chicken egg came before the chicken nonsense. I guess I shouldn't expect someone who can't even flied understand things like this. Holy smokes that was a big big old glaring sunnyside perennial hate that we get it a big old logical fallacy right you are a logical fallacies or common mistakes. People make when debating mistakes that make it easier for your opponent to win indeed todd there are many different types types of logical fallacies and the one we just heard from Linda. The pigeon is called an ad hominem fallacy which is when you insult your opponent instead of addressing their argument Correctomundo. Let's hear that Ad Hominem fallacy again. I guess I shouldn't expect someone who can't even flied understand things like this. Linda tried to distract from sue solid argument by insulting Yeesh no class at all. Let's He Alsu will respond and that is the very thing to say besides being completely irrelevant to this debate. Let's get back on topic. How do you respond to biologist to say that the ED coming? I makes evolutionary sense. Do you have any scientific. Studies is our expert opinions to support your claim I hold on. I just need a google. Something you see what I'm trying to say. Well there. You have it folks Ad Hominem thousands don't win the bait to true Taylor better to come armed with facts and figures than personal insults. We'll catch you next time on the debate. Today's episode is sponsored by Circle Struggling to make sure five more minutes doesn't end up being scene five more hours you circle to set limits and end the screen time debate with your kids once and for all circle is the easiest way to manage your family's online time across all they're connected devices inside and outside your home with circle home plus and the circle APP parents can filter what content is allowed set limits for screen time and monitor history and usage each family member has a profile. That's a fully customizable to their needs age and maturity right now. 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My daughter loves to help in the kitchen and these kids are a great excuse for her to do just that joined the community of thousands who are committed to learning about where our food comes from and how to cook from scratch all while becoming more confident in the kitchen and in life visit radish kids dot com slash boom for more information that's our A._D.. D I S H kids dot com slash boom and use the coupon code boom at checkout to save fifteen dollars off a six month membership membership man. I'm molly bloom and this is smashed boom best a show about showdowns emery from Denver Colorado sent us this fantastic debate idea by did they is lettuce versus spinach. We'll hear from emory again at the end of the show to hear who everything should win and if you haven't epic debate idea we want to hear it. You Can Envisat Smash Boom Dot O._R._G.. To share now it's time to get back to our celestial showdown Venus versus Jupiter Yup. Our debaters really brought the heat in round one. Are you ready for your next about Tommy. Kasha Yeah Danuta all right three to one micro round. We sent our debaters this challenge in advance. It's called the ultimate getaway. We asked Tommy and Kasha to sell us on the idea idea of a vacation to their planet. What are the amenities? How about the must see sites local cuisine to get a point? They'll need to convince ANA that an excursion to their planet is the trip of a lifetime. Tommy went I in round one so Kasha Europe up get US jazzed about jetting off to Jupiter gladly. Are you looking for a place to escape all your homework house chores and podcast listening. Don't just pick any old planet to vacation on Hick the one that will make all of your friends Jealous Jupiter with its mix of Red Orange and Yellow Jupiter provides the most beautiful landscape you'll ever see in person depending on the weather. The colors will change so every picture you take could look different. You'll see white spots awesome. They're cool storms brown spots if they're warm ones and red spots if they're really hot storms. It's like a planet sized Mood Ring Oh M._g.. This lighting is amazed. Let me take a Selfie in this storm as you fly. Fly over the planet. You'll also see the famous great red spot. A swirling hot storm on the surface of Jupiter is more than twice the size of earth and has been raging for at least four hundred years. The iconic great red spot is like the Grand Canyon of outerspace. Everyone instantly recognizes it. Oh there it is so great so it's like a beauty mark but for plan and when you're ready to go into adventure mode take a ride on the rollercoaster called gravity assists as you approach to Jupiter their space craft will start to speed up and then you'll be catapulted into outer space where you asleep on one of the planet's many moons you can stay on the ice covered moon known as Europa where you'll have water may be able to breathe and have the alternate vacation getaway of your lifetime. That sounds like a pretty good time on did cautious so you on Jupiter that lighting does sound pretty great for this instagram photos. Go check out all right. It is Tommy's turn to sell on the newest vacation hot sought. Let's hear what Venus has to offer. Okay kids. Don't forget your sweaters your winter coats your electric blankets your hand warmers this unfamiliar to you this spring break why why not try something different like what Hawaii close this year. Take your family to Venus on beautiful Venus. The temperature never dips below eight hundred eighty degrees so that means every day is a beach day plus. The temperature never changes day or night so all you need to pack. Is your swimsuit. Wow that's right and Venus rotates so slowly that day on Venus lesson entire year which can provide you some much needed rest in relapse examination. That sounds good to me. I've been under a lot of pressure at work. No need to worry about that here. On Venus the only pressure you'll be under is the crushing atmospheric pressure. That's right folks head on down to Venus Venus where it's hot hot hot and the only thing lower than our prices is the amount of hydrogen in our atmosphere paid for by the tours and boy for Venus. I'll tickets non-refundable. What do you think on? Are you ready to venture to Venus well. It would be nice not to have to pack for all the weather changes that certainly would make our our suitcases a lot lighter so it's a good thing to consider definitely so now you've heard both sides and it's time to avoid a point to it just one of them so think about everything you've heard listeners. You can always pause if you need more time to deliberate. Did you decide which vacation package. You're going with. Yes I did make my decision. I'm ready to pack my bags and get going okay a an excellent brace yourselves everybody. The next round is coming in at warp speed meek attack. Our third round is a complete surprise for our debaters. Are you to ready to hear your sneak attack challenge yes E._S.. Your sneak attack is Alpha Fax. Come up with as many facts as you can about your side for each letter of the alphabet. Oh God you'll have thirty seconds to rattle them off so this is a tough one. You're just GonNa do it off the top of your head so if my side or smash boom best here's how I would do it. A is for attacking opponents is a bad idea. B. Is for better. Do your research see is for creativity is key. The is for debate rules. E is for excite. Your audience F is for fact checking is important. We're going to give our debaters a minute to brainstorm while we take a dance break sister Venus burning brides rides acid clouds dagan cloudy neighbor Darling Mornings Jupiter big spot many many moons core that super bright planet from us. Are you both ready. Yes yes okay. Tommy Kasha went I last time so you're up. I I will time you and cut you off when you reach thirty seconds. Let's hear those Alfa facs starting now. Astronomers love it. They've been charting it since be Babylonian times and it's also be bright and its atmosphere is full of see see carbon dioxide. E earth is it's F- friend even though it's full of g greenhouse gases h how can I keep talking <hes> with all these facts I've thought about I don't know <hes> and time you really squeeze a lot into those thirty seconds Akasha to see how many you can get in in just thirty seconds since your time starts now. A apple colored spot be big C colossal de daunting personality exquisite colors F- flinging satellite missions into space gee gigantic Ganic Gas Planet Hala Jupiter was here to create the puny Venus. I incredible scenery. J. Jupiter is obviously much much better than Venus K. cautious so cool for picking. I'm not actually L. is for leave me alone. Well that was very impressive. Both of you you manage to cram a a lot of good arguments for both planets in just thirty seconds but now it's time for you to award a point and the judging criteria is totally up to you. Creativity facts style totally subjective totally up to you honesty this is this is a hard decision. Those are both really great especially given how quickly is had to be so ANA. Have you awarded a point for that. Sneak attack round. I have that uh-huh took some deliberation excellent good. I'm glad you're being very thoughtful about this important decision and ready or not the end is near the final six. Are debaters have one last chance chance to persuade ANA that their planet is the coolest thing since the Big Bang Kasha your first this time please present us with your six word closing statement on Jupiter our creator protector and future home very nicely done one okay Tommy. Let's hear your six word tribute to Venus cloudy Aliens Need. I say more on there you have it. We've heard four rounds of astronomical arguments for Venus. Miss and Jupiter now all eyes are on our judge ANA. She's taking it all in reflecting on the facts figures and smacktalk. She's heard in steeling herself to make a very hard decision ANA. Have you marked down your last point joint. I have excellent listeners mark down your point for the final six two so ana tally up your points and tell us who are you crowning the smash boom best. It's tied right. I know money we have a tiebreaker round the just for these occasions it's our sudden death round and this one is called animal essence Okasha and Tommy you have to answer this question and Ana is going decide who gets a point. If your side was an animal what would it be described the animal and why it's so similar to your planet I mean I already picked the animal for Venus earlier and I stand by that. It's a release carrying raccoon okay. You don't speak for all right. Do you both have an animal in mind. Yes yes Tommy Europe. First Venus is a lioness beautiful regal may not be the biggest animal but it's fierce and it's unlike the lion king Venus is a Lion Queen. Oh I'm sorry Kasha. What is your animal? I think Jupiter is like a wail not just because of its size because it helps regulate the food chain just like Jupiter helped regulate all the other planets when it was first being created and you never look at a whale and not think that's amazing. That's exactly like Jupiter and it's very majestic. Every every wail I've ever seen is always beautiful all right so ana you have to choose between the fierce lioness of Venus and the Majestic Wail of Jupiter you think about it for a second an award your point definitely need some time to think about this. What do you feel captured the essence of their planet who gets the final point? I feel like we need a drummer or something here. The winner of today's debate in the Venus versus Jupiter Debate is Jupiter. I have to say the will debate did definitely seal the deal. Will you know Jupiter's definitely a majestic plan it just like the whale and is once again the the largest planet in our solar system just like a Wales the largest organism in the ocean so appreciate the parallels there but it was very very close hard-fought hard-fought. I mean it went to a tiebreaker. Tell us a little bit about your thinking on the other rounds like where the different sides won you over yes so for the declaration of greatness. I really loved the discussion of this formation of our solar our system because that's something that's really interesting to me because it's one of the places where gravity plays a really important role in what the solar system looks like today and I think that <hes> you know I'm just sort of gravity nerd. I love thinking about the big things interact so <hes> those gravity facts both formation and with the gravity assist those sort of won me over for that round but I have to say the arguments ravinus were very creative. I appreciated the you the micro round with the travel ad for Venus. I'm ready to pack my bags and Co and the way that those alphabets flowed into each other those alphabet facts that was very impressive. Yeah the alphabet facts were pretty good. I'll give you that Tommy I would just humble in victory. If I know in all seriousness I didn't actually know that much about Venus and I didn't know the starry night bit which was actually very interesting and the volcanoes on Venus are pretty cool. You Admit Jupiter may have one gravity nerd ana over but maybe Venus persuaded you instead. Go cast your vote for Thirteen Jupiter or team Venus as Smash Boom Dot O._R._G.. And you can see who other listeners voted for two. That's all for this cosmic clash smash boom best is brought to you by brains on an American public media. It's produced by Mark Sanchez Sandon totten Molly Bloom Eliza Dudley and Rosie Dupont we had engineering help from Veronica Rodriguez Robert Frasure and Dan Powell and we had production help from manigault Wilhelm Christina Lopez and Lauren Deep Fry Iverson is the voice of our hold music and Dan Announcer is Marley for your worker auto. We want to give a special thanks to Justin coup Taylor Kaufman Austin Cross Noah Gregory and a wiggle Alex Bomb Heart Chrissy peas will lager Yana esters Melanie Ellsworth Josh Bell Taco then and Jeffrey Soy Kasha. Is there anyone we wanNA thank today. I would like to thank all of the space nerds out there who are listening to this right now. I would like to thank ANA. I would like to thank her mentor at NASA Goddard and I would like to think Tommy and everyone no one else involved in this podcast and I'd like to think myself. What about you Tommy anyone you WanNa thank I would like to thank my eighth grade science teacher Mr Vans one of my favorite teachers on? Do you WanNa to give a special shout out to anybody. I'd like to thank my science teachers. Especially my science research teacher shot low and mine mentors <hes> and everyone who has helped me with my research the many many last few years so yes awesome before we sign off. Let's hear some more from emory. That's the listener that had the idea for a lettuce versus spinach debate. Here's who emory things would win. I think lettuce would win because it's good. It's Yummy very healthy in crunchy. I like a good crunch. You can send us all your most epic matchups at Smash Boom Dot Org who knows your idea could end up on the show. Check back next week for another debate battle site and.

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Ep 181 | Is Kanye West A Christian Now?

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Use Promo the need that you need shouldn't take all of your time that's cabbage created a simple modern way for businesses to access up to two hundred fifty thousand dollars of credit well I used to watch I don't follow them really anymore but I used to see snippets on instagram from Kim Kardashian of their Sunday services when they had it seemed like a thousand people dressed all white singing gospel songs it sounded amazing but guys I'm just going to let you know I was always skeptical of that it's easy and off base theology coming from Hollywood because their beliefs in general just typically are not correct about anything spiritually or morally and probably wise to be skeptical at least initially of celebrity Christianity because we see so much new age ideology enables do it on Monday but we had to talk about the decline of Christianity which is imminent in all of the implications of that which is also kind of a big deal but second big deal that's going on analyzing himself sound like a regenerated man sound like someone who has been swayed by the Holy Spirit who has become a new creation and who the one to call that's cabbage with a k. you can go to cabbage dot com and use alley that A. 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DOT com west himself has come out and said I thought that I was a Christian he said life of Pablo I think that was one of his previous albums in the past few years he said he thought that was a gospel album and right now is that con- Yay West has actually delivered a Gospel album and I'm just GonNa let you guys know I've been watching through it's probably just this kind of like feel good new e g type thing so I'll let you know I was skeptical about this and then I started to hear rumblings that Kanye West has become a has sung the the words that he has wrapped you know that this is different and sure we can sit back and be cynical and skeptical so I was skeptical about this it was surely this is not a theologically sound gathering surely the Gospel isn't really pre surely tug about sit insulation and Jesus and all of that who I think is six years old wearing makeup he apparently reportedly asked his team who worked on this album to stop having premarital sex and to pray Christian now he says I'm a Christian everything now the things that are coming out of his mouth Kanye West mouth sounds like no one knows say is this real is this valid I mean this is the same guy his wraps things that I would never let my child here he his own added left out how that is just enslaved his mind for his entire life how he is now freed from that he talks publicly or he talked on keeping talking about the damage that porn his hat on his soul his addiction deport how it started when he was just five years old when he saw a playboy magazine that a dad that his dad as bipolar he's crazy he has a mental problem so this is a real as if God can't save people who have some sort of mental deficit he he ever cared about himself he is some people I've even heard people say this which I think is completely insensitive and disrespectful in wrong but some people have even said Oh well he the Kardashians to Kim I saw an article on this telling her that yes what you wear is hot hot for who talks about how what she we into fast while they were working on the album I mean that's pretty crazy that's pretty crazy if you know anything about Kanye West if you know anything about his lyrics the songs that he made alive he has been raised from death to life that he has received this gift of salvation about which no one can boast because it is into us in the graciousness of God that's an amazing transformation if so and so we can sit back and be skeptical just as an outsider looking in someone who doesn't know him personally seen his walk first hand it seems like it seems like he has been into personally think it is but whether or not this is real that the name of Jesus is being glorified just those three words the name of the album art from Christ and in Christ alone we are made alive in him by grace through faith so that no one could boast this is what the gift of eternal life is it seems like is starting a life of self denial rather than self glorification in self promotion the thing that he has been known for for so long that's what it sounds like I mean this guy is publicly here's obviously she's known for flaunting her body what she wears actually hurts his soul and he has a problem with that he has a probably a sad with their daughter Jesusa kink have been googled millions of times his album is number one on spot is a spotify all of the songs on the album are in the is an I am going to review some of those lyrics because I happen to think that they are very power and Jesus you have my soul Sunday service on a roll all my idol let him go all the demons let him know this is a mission not a show this is my eternal soul and he goes on for we want to weaken question it because of who he was or who he is or because he's a celebrity because he's rich because he's married to Kim Kardashian but I why is that the Gospel is being preached probably to people who have either never heard it never understood it and never expected to hear it from someone they admire like certainly saves people to have moral deficits those are the only people he saves because we all have moral deficits and we all have our bad habits in hangups and we are all dead inside or through pastor the name of God is being glorified God can use anyone in right now what we cannot deny whether or not we know Connie's heart what we can't charts of spotify people are listening to the name of Christ bean proclaimed in God is being glorified through I don't care if it's through west or it had an inappropriate picture of a woman on it and he's the one who is saying he thought he was saved in but he's really saved now and he does everything for God he's been asking the interview are you I don't know it was hard I certainly haven't spent time within the things that are coming out of the West mouth now the same guy who has become famous for worshiping himself in he has in store from the rich to the poor all are welcome through the door I feel like a beat poet right now you will ever be the same when you call Jesus name listen to the words I'm saying Jesus saved could it is far more freedom far more glorified for us to celebrate the fact that no matter what whether or not this is real which I happen he expresses the desire to share the gospel that is a that is an indication of a regenerated a renewed a new heart gospel he says that's what happens when you become saved when Jesus Christ takes hold of your life when he becomes your Lord your matter your savior when you realize what he did. This ain't about a blink religion Jesus broader revolution all the captives are forgiven time to break down all the prisons every man every woman there's freedom from addiction a little bit more says that's what God is I think those lyrics are so powerful indicative of a changed heart that is what the Holy Spirit dies he and I'm sure that right now Connie's theology isn't perfect in fact I know that it's not I've heard some interviews to where it kind of seems like this praise the Lord Worship Christ with the best of your portions I know I won't forget all he's done he's the strength in this race that I run every time I look up I see God's faithfulness and it shows just are you things change everything changes so when we hear him talking about the damage of pornography or premarital sex or immodesty we now I'm saying and I know I know God is the force that picked me up I know Christ is the fountain that Fill my cup I know God is alive is opened my vision given me a revelation is one part of world religiosity that can be good and can be helpful but God is it really care about what we do I mean I was consuming I pulled by people who preach the Social Justice Gospel he is going to be pulled by the people who preach this Self Love Gospel that God just wants you to be happy believer that he has really been saved now I have friends who have been fans of culinary West for a long time who have been saying for years is a Christian he's a Christian he's a Christian but con- yeah influence of every single teacher that wants to ride on his coattails a once their name to be attached to his he is going to be changes our affections and when we love something we want to talk about it we WANNA sing about he says apparently that he's going on tour very quickly he wants to share the prayers go up blessings come down just just a little bit but we can give him Greeks and he's a baby Christian he's just learning theology I can tell you some of the things this story will play out I feel I feel a lot for him because he is in the public eye he is going to have the new creation and it's amazing to see I praise God for this I praise God for this no we don't know we don't know what's going to happen we don't know how of those popular books at the time that probably limited to a really bad theological framework and I think hopefully by the grace of God it's turned out okay and I'm still learning we're learning our entire fault everything that I felt praise the Lord I could sing this because I know the tune of listened to this so many times but I'm going to spare you I'm good to spare you that it says everything that I felt rob bell who came out as a universalist years later I read all of these books that back then basically saying yet Christianity is the Lord that I look back and I'm like how could I possibly have thought that I mean when I was first coming into the faith I read blue leg jazz I read the shack I read how much he is miraculous I can't keep it to myself I sit here and be still everybody I will tell to the whole world is healed king of Kings Lord of Lords all the things e or wanting to take care of and protect his daughter says children wanting to be a Christian everything have Craig's define what he does Christians as long as they don't actually believe they're okay with the Christians who say Oh yeah Jesus love great tolerance cool had God keeps him that he has discernment that he has wisdom that he keeps his eyes locked on Christ on the Cross and that he I put an air quotes if you are not washing this that the world accepts but actual Christianity Christianity that exist biblical Christianity that says that you were dead in your city stolid apparently those are the people that are helping shape him and pushing him towards to Lord and that's good that's good thing he is under the West my favorite song on the album of course of course it happens to be a the only song with a cuss word but my favorite song on the album is God the world does not like doesn't like it hates it why because the world's the mainstream culture the secular world is only okay with holiness in separation from the world in righteousness and sanctification and the belief in an absolute truth from other creator of the charity but not personal charity the government should redistribute wealth that's compassion open borders Yada Yada Yada that's the kind of so called Christianity I thought to be theologically true actually I can't remember them right now but I know that there are things that I thought to be theologically true when I was first becoming a believer in learning lasting and you are able to be steadfast through your trials here on earth that Christianity that demands of us who the power of the Holy Spirit is not pulled in the direction of false teaching that he is not made to feel guilty by the world that he is not coerced or bullied by the pasturing him the church that he is a part of that is actually apparently a part of master seminary which is John MacArthur seminary as you know I believe John Macarthur to be extremely eh pulled in every direction of false gospel he is going to be pulled by those who preach the Prosperity Gospel he is going to be there's a god who created the world and he has a purpose for how things are supposed to go he has an order and he by His grace his unto die for us that we should be reconciled attic transformation and it is a public evidence it he's very compelling evidence of what the Holy Spirit can do contain thing as it is right now but he is being preached by people who know the word and my prayer for him as someone who is in the public eye and we'll be pulled in every direction my prayer for him is that formed theology and I know for different people that can mean different things but he is being preached the Gospel he is being told the True Gospel that doesn't mean that he understands every your lives is we're sanctified and we grow up in a knowledge of the truth and that's what I hope for I have it on good authority that the people who are disabling him the people who are Pinton by the way that's what Jesus says in the Gospels they're they're not rejoicing any more for Konya West than they are for any other so that is that why we're talking about this but of course according to God and in the angels of Heaven who rejoice when a sinner comes to re hint and have the opportunity to privilege the joy to be able to spend forever with him and to give him glory here on earth and forevermore as Christians someone who seems very unlikely who we never would have guessed would come to Christ in produce a gospel album on who has apparently done so apart from Christ and destined for Hell and the only way to be reconciled to holy perfect God is through belief in Jesus Christ then you get to spend eternity with him and you get joy ever here is a less theological statement in a more political statement that he made in an interview with big boy TV re brainwashed out here Bro people who don't agree with him or saying that he's a big now or that he's crazy for actually believing in the Bible because the kind of faith that apparently from what we see that conyers Emilee pissed that we should be doing this for all new Christians the only reason why we're talking about this more than we talk about someone who is not in the media and WHO's not that Christianity again the only Christianity that actually exists biblical Christianity the world hates the world hates because we're not down with moral relativism we're going to see role of your life and you get to be yourself you could do you determine your own truth and do what feels good to you so the world doesn't like it when someone comes in and says actually it is not known wasn't sold millions of albums who's just become a Christian is simply because it's being covered because it is also a dramatic what if we are not in Christ we are dead Enersen or we are alive in Christ in France with God those are the two categories of every single human that dichotomy because it seems bigoted and judgmental so like I said I've listened to sell visit interviews I've read the articles all the things that he's been talking about Kanye West Lake we're talking gold digger person we're talking married to Kim Kardashian we're talking about the guy who just a few months ago or maybe we're who repents incomes to Christ he is not special to God or special in heaven because he is famous here on earth no that's not they don't the world isn't like that so kind of he's going to be bullied no doubt and I just pray just pray that the Lord keeps him protects him and by the way I do want to note I for the conservative towards the conservative end when you come to know God you start to love the things that God loves and you start to hate the things that God hates that doesn't on earth and and that is that is the dichotomy through which we have to view the world in the world certainly doesn't something is wrong and something is right based on what the Bible tells us the world doesn't like that why because the world worships the God of self in the God of self the only thing that matters is that you have McHugh as I've said many times at least nine times out of ten at least nine times out of ten maybe like nine point eight nine point nine true at all God view us as dead in our sin Ak enemies of him that's what the Bible says we have in in Miyuki to really hard work to say enmity with God what are you talking about guns in the eighties taken a father's out the home plan B. Lauren votes making us our board our children gosh okay probably almost ten out of ten win someone's theological views change for the better their political views tend to change come on man it's the Freeman Talking Democrats Vote Democrats food stamps for years bro not necessarily that you agree on every single Republican talking point I'm certainly not saying that or that you love every Republican politician absolutely not there's corruption on both sides I but when people come to Christ which it seems like this has been a journey that's been happening for him for a while you tend to see the insanity sir you start to see the damage the damaging effects of leftism and I'm not saying that Kanye West is like a bona fide conservative or that we should look to him as like Christian who is out there and who is influenced by so many people who are against ten and who might I don't know Austin twos confusion ensues tyranny ensues and suffering ensues and so that's so often why why when people become Christians who might even be opposed to his own family's beliefs it doesn't seem to me I don't I don't know for sure but it doesn't seem to me like Kim shares the same it's kind of changed it's just interesting interesting example number seven hundred million thousand Gillian of when someone has a battle ahead of them if he sees the world in modesty and sacks in all of that differently than Kim does the Kardashians who also support planned parenthood publicly uh-huh Christian their political views tend to change as well it just doesn't happen to be toward communism I'm like I've said many times Russian and shares the same faith doesn't seem like that at all some people are saying Oh yeah she just got baptized in her home country that on conservative hero or that he should help shape our political views. I'm not saying that I just think it's interesting that on a few issues as Konya has that's not that's not a proclamation of belief in the Gospel it's just not we don't know we don't know I hope that your knee of authorities outside of God's realm which happened to be the government who tries itself to be God when the government tries to usurp God chaos reading the Bible and praying for a conviction of the heart You start to see the godless snus when you come to Christ you start to see the godless nece in the we don't know I we can't we can't really judge what's going on there we can discern the fruit right now the this come to Christ he has probably changed I have no doubt that at one point he was pro choice I've no doubt about that he actually talks about that it interview how he used to be politically one way for her I literally pray that for people with so much influence it would be awesome if Christ a one all of the crash hearts but that to say Connie looks good and what I hope for him and I meant to say this earlier and I kind of got off track what I hope for him what I wish that he would do because I heard that he's going on tour what I wish heart then Connie is going to start hating abortion to and if you don't hate abortion while you've got some you've got some theological deficits that you might need to catch up on by in your community steady God's Word Pray Serve Your family be with your wife Talk to her about her faith helped shape her heart lead early that's going to be an issue I just hope this is totally dis- mice objective opinion so take that for what it's worth I just hope wish that he sees that they have been brainwashed and that they're aborting their children ya that's because God hates abortion and if God has truly given Connie your family spiritually really get a grounding in the word because I just I fear and I know that God keeps people that he is going to keep would step out of the limelight step out of the public I I don't know maybe not go on tour and just be at home go to church or you can be a Christian and be accepted by leftism that's what I need to start saying and so for for Canyon to say that he logical teacher he is a baby Christian we should be praying for him and we should hope I use in championed the Gospel in Christianity that's awesome like I if that is God's Will God is going to use him and that's going to be wonderful to see I just worry about any baby we believe is a gift that we are entitled to have Kanye West Christian album so that's my that's my take on that I wanNA share with you a verse that reminds me of all of this back and forth between Christian saying Oh we should we should celebrate this it's still there still pagan people that are produced helping produce he would do is how does the public guy that's what I want that's just my personal opinion I understand that we want him to kind of be someone who is championing these this album and this has Konya West he said Xyz two years ago here's Philippians one eighteen what then only that in every way whether in pre tax the people that he's going to protect but I just kind of want I don't know I just want him to be protected and I want him to be insulated from all of the people who are going to try to pull him down because I care so much more about his his salvation his sink to vacation his regeneration then him going on tour all getting this what so many people are not living in our social media media bubble that you and I are so familiar with it's a little bit comforting actually even though sometimes my mind is blown white you can absolutely celebrate okay that is that's all my conny take I think I've had a lot of thoughts about this I've been like pretty fired up about it my husband they've been talking about it at a time we actually brought it up in Sunday school the other day because another couple hadn't even heard that this story happened which just reminds me sometimes get on podcasts and things like that and that's a good thing I never shame people or want to make people feel embarrassed for not knowing something that's going on in Hollywood that he and all of his family come close to the Lord and are protected and we should rejoice at the fact that no matter what no matter what the Gospel is being proclaimed and that is something that we especially but also the news on Capitol Hill now issues that actually effect your life of course you should know about it's important that we're educated but if you don't know every single with the terrorist who was killed so I want to give you an update on the Texas case involving James Younger whose moms full custody so she hands or in truth Christ is proclaimed in in that I rejoice no we shouldn't idolize him no we're not looking to him as our pastor or two ashamed you one bit you've got a lot going on you've got things that affect your life way more than this so that's why I'm here but it's comforting to know that the people have higher higher priorities than that in we too can have higher priorities than these thanks okay speaking of priorities this is very important I want to get to this and then and look at some of the posts on there from a mother of James and his twin brother Jude's best friends and talk about it talks about and shows good I have a feeling this battle is not over this mother does it seem at all mentally stable so it breaks my heart that this boy has to at all being as as I've said involving seven year old James Younger caught in the custody battle between his divorced parents you'll remember that the boy's mother insists that he mm castration thankfully the judge actually ruled to give the parents joint custody so his father will have equal say in whether or not they pursue hormone therapy think we'll get to the all Baghdadi thing because that's short but I wanna get to this I have a pretty good set of commentary that I want to give on this particular subject and so we'll probably end so mentally disturbed in so confused and feeling like he was treated like a piece of property by his mother who has this weird sick fantasy every other instance with his dad with his friends he dresses like a boy he talks like a boy he says he's a boy you should go to the facebook page save James is a girl and goes by the name of Luna Wind his mother is with him when his mother takes him to the counselor or when his mother has him at home in close to him helps him see truth Howson to discern good from evil at a young age I feel for James Younger I feel for him able to go forward with hormone therapy and puberty blockers which he was planning to do before he actually reached the age of eight so within the next year that is also known as a my mind is blown by the things that people don't know were going on I'm like you know what there's a lot that goes on there's a lot that goes on in people's lives besides what's going on on TV what a boy he is just a normal seven year old boy who was probably confused because he's been abused by his mother so what happened in this we were afraid that the mother was going to get sole custody and better cared for better adjusted than those who are not this could be why this article argues why the mother is more willing to send her child exciting asked us to pray for this and so we've literally before this was even in the news I couldn't believe this was happening we've been praying for this for a long time this is Texas hands of his mother he is going to look back more than likely in hate his mother that that is probably what's going to happen because he is going to be in a few years if this goes on get transition him as we sat into a girl without his father's consent this has been going on for a long time I've actually I heard about it last year someone in our Sunday school knew this family or knew the dad into the arms of a doctor who has a no interest in this child's future well-being whatsoever who was willing to harm this child physically and irreparably for the rest of his life now let me just say let me give a caveat to this this is not in any way shape or form a knock on adoptive parents or foster parents there was this interesting article in the federalist titled Why it's probably not a coincidence that the mother trans ing her seven-year-old son isn't biologically treated etc certainly a child having some form of stability some form of a family who loves them is better than them having none at all unharmed now my prayer my earnest prayer is that that is not the case and that God saves him got has grease on his life God gives them mercy to him draws him a biological parents that would be a mon- and Adad by the way even if the home is not perfect they are statistically and in general better off for example about the health and wellbeing of kids who live with their biological parents versus those who live with step parents foster parents and adoptive parents a kid to live with both there of having a seven year old daughter named Luna even though she has a boy he will be so disturbed by all of that that he might be irrevocable irrevocable what's going on with the impeachment inquiry or impeachment talks of impeachment or everything that's going on with the twenty twenty election everything that's going on West and Kim Kardashian I reason why the psychologically seemingly unstable mother is less willing to protect her child from something that is going to be so traumatic physically harmful for him for the rest of us or step parents most of whom I know have saved a child from a situation in which they were neglected which they were abandoned abused related because this is not his biological mother actually paid for an egg donor who is a stranger other article is really intriguing it goes through unbiased statistics from Princeton maybe not be perfect there is an innate instinct for us parents to care for that which came for us God made us that way and again that doesn't mean that you're being a victim of or property of the state adoption is a beautiful thing it is reflective of the Gospel is God adopted us to be his sons for Millennia is going to have a negative effect on society is it that may be a possibility that we should consider before rearranging the entire family redefined the fact that studies show that the ideal situation the ideal situation for children is to be raised by their biological parents even when their home life other and mother and the two shall become one flesh to hold fast to his wife and the two shall become one flesh and will from then Lord Willing be able to consequently good for adults and consequently good for society was just happenstance and do you think that maybe can't allow us to love or adoptive in step in foster children of course of course we love them so much but God made the nuclear biological family vises a girl goes by the name of Luna even the father infringed the family and even the gender affirming counselor the mothers take to say that he really only identifies aiming sexuality and gender the episode that I did a while back titled Biblical Marriage Goes Into Y biblically marriage is meant to be between one man and one gods definition of marriage is rooted in creation we say this alliteration a lot rooted in creation reiterated in the New Testament represented in the picture ladies as he did you think it's just a coincidence or purposeless that God into beginning made us male and female and he said a man will leave his possibly just consider this at rearranging the traditional family that got ordained specifically in his word it has helped create healthy communities and nations Harry and neither is gender which whether you want to believe it or not is the same as sex I know God made it this way chance in also say that they are on the left or Christians who are pro LGBTQ do you think that God made us arbitrarily like your own subjective feeling to determine morality which is how we get to a place to where someone is able to quote decide their gender because feelings rule this is which means when we wander outside of his balance this is true about everything we are choosing self worship in south worship always ends in chaos and confusion life and this is one thing I know we talked about this a lot but I just think about this so often this is one of the things I don't understand about those who say that they are the operations or procedures or therapy he goes through he will always be a boy his DNA is a boy that is reality that is science and for a reason for purpose there are instincts inside all of us to fight for our own to protect our reels of this article argues that that could be part of the in pain and suffering why because if we are all our own gods then who is to say what's right and wrong good and bad that ends in anarchy which is the fruitful and multiply do you really think that that didn't matter that had no lasting implications at that had no real purpose that got just did that coincidentally four 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State v. Joseph Webster - Episode 3 Maybe

"Farmers insurance knows that when you're in the car and that song comes on no not that one now yes that's the one you have no oh choice but to pull out your imaginary drumsticks and smash those symbols and stop on that kick pedal which unfortunately is also known as the accelerator pedal and we covered it at farmers. We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two click for more we are arborist under my farmer's truck insurance exchange and affiliates products unavailable in every state. There's a story that goes back at least two thousand years. It's the parable of the chinese farmer which comes from taoism. Here's alan watts telling this story. Once upon a time was a chinese farmer who lost horse runaway and all the neighbors came round that evening and said that's too bad and he said maybe the next day the hawks came back and brought seven wild horses with it and all the neighbors came around and said wow that's great isn't it and he said maybe the next day his son was attempting to who pay one of these horses was riding on the phone broke his leg and all the neighbors came round evening and said well. That's too bad. Isn't it said maybe the next day the conscription officers came around looking for people the army and they rejected his son because he had had a broken leg and all the navy's came around that evening that isn't that wonderful and he said maybe the meaning of the parable is never to get to high after perceived victory or too low after perceived loss because because you never know what will be the consequences of misfortune aw you never know what will be the consequences of good fortune. This parable seems especially applicable to clean be wrongfully convicted. Vic did like non said that might be ordered a new trial only to have that ruling reversing appeal or like terrence lewis they might give up on that appeals they can be resentenced sentenced only to have the judge surprisingly find them actually innocent and they might learn years after their conviction that a dna profile has been recovered from the murder weapon curve. You've innocence projects cases over five year period found that post conviction dna testing was essentially a coin flip in forty three percent of cases such testing prove innocence nissen's in forty two percent of cases dna testing confirmed guilt and in fifteen percent of cases. That testing is inconclusive in january twenty eighteen gene d._n._a. Testing was done in the cinder block that was used to kill arroyo and would that testing proved joseph webster innocence confirm his guilt or leave him eagle them though <music> <music> <music> dan hi and welcome to undisclosed this episode is maybe the third and final episode in our undisclosed series estate versus joseph webster but a nashville man prison for the nineteen ninety eight murder of lora owens. My name is robert <unk>. I'm an attorney author of the new york times bestseller a non story and has always i'm joined by my co host susan simpson and colin miller hi. I'm susan simpson. I'm an attorney washington d._c. And i blog at the l. to hi. This is colin miller. I'm an associate dean him professor at the university of south carolina scofflaw nab blogging evidence profit block <music> <music> <music> <music> <music> <music> <music> <music> before getting to that d._n._a. Testing let's track joseph webster's appeals over the years us as we noted an episode one while roy owens was killed in nineteen ninety eight. Joseph webster wasn't arrested for that murder until two thousand and five and his trial wasn't held until two thousand six despite no evidence collected after nineteen ninety eight actually been presented at the trial at this point. If you're familiar with the bill of rights it's you might be wondering about the right to a speedy trial enshrined in the sixth amendment the most famous supreme court case on this right as barker versus winco in which the supreme court it had to consider whether to apply something known as the demand rule under this rule. The clock on the right to a speedy trial didn't start ticking until the defendant demanded a trial your honor in the present case. There's contended that the demand rule has such chills his right to a speedy trial. We had a man here who is indicted indited for willful murder now his accomplice it twice received the death penalty. This put him in the position of if he asked to mantra. I'm trying to protect his right to a speedy trial. He is possibly asking himself asking the prosecution to give in the electric chair the result if he is successful as death. This is a grisly choice push. This court condemned and favors. You're saying that he i can't be required to come in and ask for what he will later content. He should have been given automatically. I don't see that there's any <hes> the burden of when you're dealing exactly with the thing that you're requesting but the court ultimately did find a chilling effect the demand rule and instead decided to assess whether there was a violation of the right to a speedy trial by looking not only at whether the defendant made a demand man for a speedy trial but also the length of the delay the reason for the delay and the prejudice caused by the delay applying the standard the supreme court found that a five year delay between arrest and trial was extraordinary but did not prejudiced the defendant and found no constitutional violation of course there was a seven year delay in joseph webster's case between the crime and the trial but there was no arrest in nineteen ninety eight so where does that leave webster it leaves him out of luck under the right to speedy trial which usually requires an arrest to start the clock ticking but many courts including the supreme court of tennessee. We have found that an unreasonable delay between the crime and the defense arrest convinced the right to due process in the case of harold grey. The supreme court of tennessee found that essentially the same test applies to these claims as claims that there was a violation of the right to speedy trial we look at the length of the delay the reason for the delay and the prejudice to the defendant and in harold grades case with the delay was forty two years. The case has to be dismissed <music>. Joseph webster's trout council made similar arguments before his trial. There was a delay of seven years and the state gave no explanation for that delay this. This seems to be a pretty compelling argument but trial council failed to explain how joseph webster prejudiced from this delay and this was a pretty shocking omission given how easy would have been to show oh that several forms of prejudice had happened like within his perry the past time between the crime and the rest would make it really difficult to establish an alibi and and if joseph was arrested back in nineteen ninety eight it would been fairly easy for him to establish that he didn't own station wagon this task became much harder however seven years later on and so while there was a solid argument that the charges against joseph should have been dropped the trop proceeded and he was convicted after his convicted joseph algebra appeal and as we noted episode one the basis for this claim was that his brother kenny. I neil had confessed the crime to different people including their mother. Marie burns and kenny actually admitted that he committed the crime to you <music> games they joke but they need burns testify that not only had kenny confessed the murder but also they can own white station wagon at the time of the murder. Do you remember kenny having a white station wagon back in nineteen ninety eight in december anything about that station wagon draft kennison anisa joseph's wife katrina and his brother arthur gordon also testified that kenny had confessed to them and kenny was also called as a witness as the court held in his opinion. He denied that he owned a white station wagon. In nineteen ninety eight. He admitted that his mother questioned him about the murder you're but claimed that he walked out of the door instead of talking to her about the murder when asked why he did not specifically deny committing the murder. Mr neil responded quote. I didn't have have a reason to say anything about it. The court of criminal appeals of tennessee ultimately denied joseph relief not because it found can you'll credible or that witnesses were not credible but based on timing according to the court quote the evidence was available prior petitioners trial and petitioner has failed to show he used reasonable diligence and seeking newly discovered evidence burns would probably agree with us reasoning but not the result on that's midwest cracks. You knew that from the job of we kept telling you need into telling you to good islam stage and you said you know ashes and you said no. Why do you think you didn't put you on the stand and the laughs and what did he say stuff. 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One was that trial counsel cancelled failed him based upon failing to argue is prejudice based upon the seven year delay between crime and trial at the hearing the petition trial counsel claimed he didn't remember the specifics the motion because it has been argued by co-counsel although i guess that there was insufficient evidence of prejudice to grant relief this was good enough for the court a second grand relief claimed by joseph with the child council cross examination of tammy nelson regarding inconsistent statements and is gold teeth as noted last episode through many inconsistencies consistencies in tammy. No since police statements including not mentioning the perpetrators gave her a pager number to contact them into third police statement. I'll try touched upon on these. He didn't explore them in depth. The court of criminal appeals tennessee rejected this argument concluding that child council did not recall specific things about which he cross-examined miss nelson awesome trial but explained that he did not feel like he was getting anywhere because she was such a good witness and his strategy was tobacco off but what about the gold teeth. I recently talked about its initial decision to get those gold teeth and how notable they are. Well enter turn my younger going up eighteen serpentine eighteen nineteen that was that was a lot of my peers. That's what they will go and i i wanna go right and the reason you go teeth. Is you want people to see the gold teeth right and how often do people comment about your gold teeth talk to you is very alley. Vegetate twelve them surprisingly surprisingly the court of criminal peals of tennessee didn't directly address this issue in its opinion. Now i guess you could say that the court did address the failure to question tammy nelson also in about the gold teeth when it affirmed trial counsel decision to back off of nelson because she was coming off as a good witness but that explanation wouldn't seem to make sense lance. It seems defensible for an attorney to claim that he stopped picking it. Inconsistencies witnesses prior statements because she was coming off as a good witness but there were no inconsistencies regarding the gold teeth tammy nelson didn't mention them in her first statement her second police statement or her third police statement. All the trial counsel had to do was asked tammy nelson whether she ever mentioned the perpetrator had gold teeth and then have joseph webster display his full mouth of gold teeth to the jury but he didn't and the court never explained why this should not be grounds for a new trial of course this wasn't the only issue related tammy nelson the petition for post conviction relief as we noted in episode one. There's the fact that nelson recanted identified as joe webster on several occasions post trial and even named his brother kenny neal as the perpetrator colin recently talked to marie burns but how all this came about the tammy nelson an came and talked to after trial right. It's my son as it were. You pleased threes. Take me to your mama. Polycom san antonio mom around us but i got to the truth. I got to tell the truth to her and mattress dot com as a jam south to you as don't put out of my house. He's a mom this into what she has to say and i said well okay the so he bravo. She came to the kids in the kitchen. She was glad she said miss marie. I'm sorry for what i did. She said joe won the won they would show of they want to be honest with you and i wanna go back to court a maverick and we did have dame's than our this when beg the colon they this takes us back to the parable. The chinese farmer marie burns didn't want to hear from the woman who said our son to prison thinking you would only rub salt in the wound but nelson also ended up delivering news that might lead any reasonable mother to believe that her son would soon be set free but then as in so many similar cases what seems to be good. The news turns out to be bad news. We're okay what school when you when she was chesa mattie and say he was long. You know school indiana back into the troops. Yeah i want to believe you know for me twice and so finding that tammy nelson's recantations where reliable joseph webster was again denied a new trial with little reason to believe that he would ever be given relief then then in december of two thousand sixteen another door opened that year davidson county which covers nashville decided to create a conviction review unit are cr are you. Here's a news channel five piece on that cr you the district attorney's office conviction review unit is designed to make sure no one person is in prison resin wrongfully convicted. These channel five's kelsey gibbs takes us through this process if somebody's imprisoned they don't need to do a day in prison. If they're innocent awesome. The national registry of wrongful conviction show that the state of tennessee has exonerated just over twenty five inmates since nineteen eighty nine. That's a loss of more than two hundred thirty years. The court system is is is designed to address it to a certain extent where mistakes are made but <hes> sometimes when there's a claim of innocence <hes> we need to go a step further assistant district attorney. Robert jones is leading a unit at the nashville d._a.'s office to review convictions out of three thousand district attorney offices nationwide. There's just about thirty five conviction review units. Jones says the units units aren't designed to second guess at juries decision or court but instead to be an extra set of eyes when new evidence is presented. We need to be able to look at old cases especially where someone is claiming that they were wrongfully convicted. Um hum. Yesterday was international cat day and you can bet i tweeted about it because i miss my cats a lot right now. I am traveling. I have been traveling for the last week. 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That's pretty litter dot com promo code undisclosed for twenty percent off pretty letter dot com promo code undisclosed the first conviction review unit or conviction integrity unit as sometimes called was created by craig watkins and dallas county the soon after he was elected in two thousand six here watkins describes the status quo that he felt he had a change upon election before became d._a. Yea and i didn't see i didn't become d._a. Until two thousand six <hes> there are about four hundred claims of innocence and four hundred request best that the those cases be looked at and at the time the current d._a. Felt that it wasn't necessary to look at those cases so he did not everyone of those individuals who had claimed innocent well. I came in and actually my second day an office. There was an individual that had been waiting for five years <hes> to be exonerated and because of the election year and the the person that i was running against he was part of the old administration they wanted to wait until after the election. 'til all this person to be exonerated for something. He didn't a new one fortunately for my opponent he lost and <hes> this person was exonerated and i went downstairs. <hes> which the media thought was somewhat unusual to apologize to the individual for his raw for convicted conviction for the time that he spent in prison for a crime crime he didn't commit and then there was a frenzy. There was a media frenzy after that they thought wow that is somewhat unusual for elected d._a. To go down and apologize for the system that failed them nowadays the idea of a district attorney apologizing to a wrongfully convicted visual isn't isn't a shocking indeed in the case of chester home in the third that we covered on our podcast patricia cummings from the d._a.'s office and see you in philadelphia said quote. I apologize apologized chester holman. I apologize because he was failed and failing him. We fail the victim and failed the community of the city of philadelphia after the across took office as the d._a. In philly he poached cummings who had previously led the dallas county cr you under watkins as walk ins notes see i use served distinct functions from from innocence projects <hes> the innocence project is a group of individuals that represent folks. They claim that they're innocent. <hes> their responsibility is to represent their client and so our responsibility as prosecuted somewhat very different than what the innocence project does the innocence project. They will have a client and they have to represent. What's in their best interest as a d._a. As a prosecutor my responsibility is to represent the citizens of dallas county and so if a person's innocent or guilty the innocence project will advocate that they're innocent. Their goal is to get their client out of jail so as a d._a. Margolis justice to make sure that if a person is claiming that they're innocent and it is proven to be true that the person's let out jail if they also claim that they're innocent and it turns out that they are not then they stay in jail and so my role is very different than the innocence project check so we created an organization within the d._a.'s office is called the conviction integrity unit whereby we actually proactively look at these claims names of innocence <music> watkins's goal was broader than just proving guilt or innocence innocence an individual cases like the federal aviation administration does with plane crashes he wanted to determine the wrongful convictions were aberrations or the result of assistant failures in the criminal justice system bryan stevenson to the equal justice initiative has given a similar rationale for him moratorium on the death penalty the other way of thinking thinking about it is not do people deserve to die for the crimes they commit but do we deserve to kill fascinating death. Penalty in america is defined by error for every nine people who've been executed. We've actually identified one innocent person who's been exonerated and released from death row kind of astonishing error rate one out of nine people innocent. I mean it's fascinating and aviation. We would never let people fly on airplanes if for every nine planes that took off one the crash but somehow we can insulate ourselves from this problem. It's not our problem. It's not our burden. It's not our struggle <hes> and so walk ins and his team put in the work and reached a determination that is now commonly accepted the i witness mis identification is the leading cause of wrongful convictions and that partial remedies exists i wouldn't vacations double-blind and so we advocate it with <hes> different police departments throughout <hes> dallas county to change the process and how they did lineups. If any of you you have ever taken a class in medicine you know they do. What's called a double blind test. They give you a placebo and then they give you the real drug to make could determination if the real drug is working but the person that gets the placebo or the real drug they don't know if they got the real drug and so we advocated that when we're doing dealing with lineups that we go to the double blind system that they use and medicines because it's proven to have worked <hes> mhm given the joseph webster was convicted basil a non double-blind eyewitness identification by a witness who has since recanted. You might be this case. I used to be a good candidate for sierra relief but it's patricia cummings explains. There are two types of sierra's. Tom hallway who works are turned center. Who's actually studied eviction <unk> units as sad that there appears to be two types of units throughout the country and mail were upwards of about forty of them in one is the real unit who actually spends the time taking cases in taking cases through pretty white funnel in other words looking at a lot of cases and then investigating getting them to figure out if in fact something that's real conditioning segregated on the other hand john hallway refers to what it calls a klina right now and <hes> stands for conviction review in name only nattiest just the reality of how politically savvy some elected district attorney's <unk> throughout the country. Look we understand as a nation. Were talking about wrongful convictions in how actual actually innocent people get convicted and so we get it it's part of our culture now and we should be doing something about it and so some district attorney attorneys have said okay. I'm going to create the unit that they do so to speak in mali where there's not really decriminalize to looking at the cases investigating them and actually trying to figure out if in fact the system made a mistake and we need to erect something that is a big wrong i mean i think we all agree as a society or the worse things our criminal justice systems in do is convict the numbers back this up there are thirty three conviction fiction review units in the country but twelve have never exonerated a single person and five only exonerated one so which we will the davidson county conviction review and go <music> <music> <music> <music> before getting to that it's now time to note that the cr you has one an additional piece of information in the joseph webster case you might recall the fred. Mclean said that the killer in this case struck la- roy owens several times in the head from cinderblock outside a barbeque restaurant back in nineteen ninety eight. That's inner block was not tested for d._n._a. Nor was attested in two thousand five. When joseph webster was arrested or two thousand six when he was prosecuted it also wasn't tested over the ensuing decade but then in two thousand eighteen and daniel horowitz was able to get the national innocence project involved the innocence project was able to coordinate d._n._a. Testing of the center block with bodey cellmark forensics the samples were obtained from six different locations on the cinderblock to interior corners of the cinderblock and four exterior corners. All on the opposite side from the side lied with roy owens blood. Here's a farrier files. Discussing the results towards his case was so strong. The innocence project agreed to test the murder weapon for d._n._a. D._n._a. The cinderblock had never been tested before and maybe just maybe there was the d._n._a. Of the killer on the brick a twenty six thousand dollars test at one of the country's premiere labs showed d. n. a. Fortunately there was a match we tested multiple places on that block where it would have been handled by by the person who was <hes> using it to kill the victim <hes> each one of the places that we tested <hes> resulted in a <hes> testable male d._n._a. Sample at that sample was tested against just webster provided a cheek swab <hes> and he is excluded as a contributor. I spoke with gary hammer that she forensics religious the serological research institute about the testing in this case and so what's the type of dna testing they did in this case the these are short ten repeats s._t._r.'s and their autosomal <hes> which autosomal means that for each. There's only one spot and the d._n._a. And the genome contains at mar so there's one location on each you know each person has two pairs of chromosomes <hes> so for example apple. If you look at the table one you'll see locus. There's the location three s. thirteen fifty eight mark. The regular chromosomes unscheduled m._d. <hes> and then <hes> regular grimsson is on the third chromosome threes and then number three chromosome s._p._n. Somatic which means only once in that one location on that chromosome but of course everybody has two or three chromosomes so asked me somatic. It'll inkers wants at thirteen fifty inches to number and order of discovering that they give it <hes> so that's the handles for that particular location on the on the d._n._a. So the evidence is fifteen sixty. One of the chromosomes type fifteen repair fifteen repeats and the other one is sixteen repeats so that's the times arrived in as armor says the d._a. Profile from the six different locations on the cinder block swabbed all had the same markers at various points and they were consistent on every point conversely the sample of from joseph webster show that he's today profile was not consistent with democracy and they were tested recovered from these under block. So what does it mean for. Example evidences fifteen sixteen and joseph webster's sixteen seventeen eliminate winter right. I'm you say eliminates. That's to what degree of certainty under present guy detected now. Maybe d._a.'s air and it just didn't get detected but we can only go with what we see and these limits. That's why you see these numbers with the dishes after it. They were the analysts ensure whether the missed or were twenty eight twenty eight for example or whether they are twenty something else of course this takes us to the question of whether the murderer in this case likely would have left behind d._n._a. Evidence on the cinderblock that he used to kill roy owens the suspect center block you kind of expect to see some bird roof service unless us workloads okay when you say it. It's like he would left d._n._a. Because there's a rough surface can you explain that a little bit. If you're stuck on a house or <hes> <hes> a brick <hes> it's rough enough flex sandpaper crew more closer to actually pull some skins cells on <hes> and scrape your hands or fingers. Even if it's just skin there's still some deedee and their skin on the surface of the skin as well as in the skin so the dermal layer is dead and there's not much in that but on the outside shut your mouth and your ears scratch your head you get email over your ends old all day along minneapolis. You wash could have a lot of money in your hands for transferred to the cinderblock hitting something the cinderblocks heavy number one and number two. You gotta do several times. Probably there was slept and stuff scraping with remove sample from your hand <music>. This takes us back to the significance of the new witness richard henderson that we previewed at the end the episode to when tammy nelson testified at trial. She claimed that one of the perpetrators was wearing gloves when he struck leroy owens with the stick so she's correct about that and the perpetrator was still wearing gloves when he struck owens with a cinderblock. They're likely wouldn't be transferred but remember what an eyewitness to to. The murder richard henderson said when he was recently contacted by a private investigator. He said that neither of the perpetrators was wearing gloves. This makes it very likely the killer what had left d._n._a. Of us behind center block and the absence of joseph webster c._n._a. is highly exculpatory but with the davidson county conviction review unit you at the same way or what they do at the same way they had tammy nelson's recantations the evidence of candles guilt and i witness anthony boy says new statement that the killer was at least six feet tall and with a skinny build we i are looking at this case is an open question with a cr you still considering it by the sea are you hadn't gotten on off to a great start. Here's the beginning of a piece by w._p._n. The nashville district attorney's office has especially with a noble goal to reopen old cases says figure out if someone was wrongfully convicted and get innocent people out of prison but two years into its creation the conviction review unit has yet to reopen a case <music> and win w. p. l. n. says the sierra you had yet reopen a case. They're not just talking about the lack of an exoneration instead as of january twenty nineteen and the cr you had yet to even reopen a case to determine whether or not there should be an exoneration in other words. The david county are you was in serious danger of becoming a conviction actioner unit in name only and the joseph webster case what ben exhibit a that's because the cr you decided not to reopen his case unlike the courts found the timing nells recantations were unreliable. All while anthony boy said the kill was at least six feet tall with thin build the cr. You concluded that he did not quote provide any information. That leads to see are you. Pamela handled complained that anyone other mr webster come in at the offense but what about the family members who said kenny neal confessed to the crime the sierra you founded that this is already litigated by the courts. What about <unk> wanna norman who set kenny neill park has white station wagon her place and confessed to the crime likely on the the same day of the murder according to the cr you this quote whiteness offered opinions and innuendo. She did not provide any information that leads to see. Are you panel to a conclusion. No question that anyone other than mr webster committed the offense and then finally we have the d._n._a. Here is holding thing d._n._a. Mr webster requested d._n._a. Testing and see are you helped of celtic testing on completion. This testing did not lead to other suspects and that was it case closed. No maybe about it. This was a bad add result with no seeming remedy but joseph webster's attorney. Daniel horowitz did not take this result sitting down. He followed up with a cr. You noted the significance diffi- of the new evidence pointed out their ability to interview new witnesses kita smith who claim to be with tammy nelson when the perpetrators attack la- roy owens and and he railed against the quote too many cooks in the kitchen procedure of having seven prosecutors decide whether to reopen a case finally on january twenty fifth this year. The webster case caused the cr you to change things up. Here's holy outta martinelli reporting for w._p._n. Still d- original denial of webster's application application lead to some soul searching. This is the first one that we've got to this point so it brought to light changes that we needed to be made. That's what's robert jones who leads the conviction review unit after months of inquiries from w._p._n. Regarding the board's decision to deny webster's petition he says the d._a. Is scrapping original seven person unit calling it unnecessarily cumbersome as of today only jones will decide if a case is recommended for reinvestigation the final decisions nations still respite district attorney glenn i recently got to speak with robert jones who is not able to go on the record about joseph webster case but it was able to tell me that they had consulted the quattro in central port that was referenced earlier in reformulating their sierra you he also said he had spoken to patricia patricia cummings at the philadelphia sky who's able to inform of undisclosed work with them and give advice about how to operate their sierre. You of course davidson county reform-minded. It's sierra you did not automatically mean they would reopen joseph webster's case but on february eighth they did just that for the first time ever the davidson county prosecutor's peter's office is looking into potential wrongful conviction late friday a conviction review unit announced it would take another look at the case of joseph webster nashville man serving serving a life sentence for murder w._p._n. Contributor julia to martinelli reports on what's next now that joseph webster's case clear the first hurdle the d._a.'s office will assign signing investigator to track down leads interview witnesses and follow up on the new evidence provided by webster's legal team. We've been waiting for this for about two and a half years <hes> <hes> and just to get here. Who's been extremely patient. <hes> always remained optimistic that <hes> that we would get a fair shake on. That's one attorney daniel horowitz. It says it's unclear how long the investigation will take because he and his client who has already spent thirteen years behind bars. Don't want it to be rushed. This is a case where every every single new lead that we followed up on has revealed more and more and more excretory evidence every everything that that gets investigated will be good for him. What says it was webster's. Brother who committed the crime more than twenty years ago. When you investigation is complete district attorney glenn funk and his top deputies will review the the findings and the and it will be up to funk alone to decide on recommending webster to be free <music> and so when initially look terrible news this year you rejected joseph's case might have ended up leading to a better and fairer sierra you that competes relief. It's not just for joseph for for others in nashville plausible innocence claims or maybe not the d._n._a. And the cinderblock might end up being a match for the royal wen's kenny neal oh philip cotton or some with known connections to the case all of which produce different results and the keita smith could end up exonerating joseph webster or muddying the waters. There's even more in either then. We should have an answer soon. When i spoke with rob jones recently he said there should be decision. Joseph's case in the next couple of months and when there there is he'll be able to go on the record about the decision which will cover on the podcast in the meantime. Joseph webster remains in prison. Re has been for the past past fourteen years waiting to hear whether it'd be good news or bad news but neither event the result would be the same for him. He will never give up and what would it mean for you if you were to be released from prison after them waiting on. I'm waiting on the day amid waiting on the day. I want to try because i am innocent inamine the world so i don't allows family members i missed. I missed a tear my kids. They're gonna. I miss them playing football. I miss them. I'll go neck school of islam. She's getting sick. <hes> you know like in prison. Everyday you go and you're gonna do if like one day seems like he's twenty pointed as so it's been it's been it's been a very tough breath and then when people deny you of your quotes it makes it even worse and put frustration. You know manage it. You did a lot to deal with a lot to deal with breath. I know anything so. I'm not gonna stop giving yeah. I know it's a tough question after he'd been in prison for so many years but what would you wanna do when you get out our i would want to be a motivated. Speak until people tell people my store. I know that you may get nice can affect your life mm-hmm. I wanna give vague. I wanna i wanna get back from my family and my kids 'cause they. 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Invisibility vs Flying

Smash Boom Best

36:07 min | 2 years ago

Invisibility vs Flying

"From the brains behind the brains on its smash boom best the chauffeur people with big opinion i'm molly bloom and this is smash boom the show where we take using smack them together an ask you decide which one is best today we thought a superpower showdown on are hands in visibility vs applying deep ultimate disguise versus the freedom of this guy's flying is better because you kind of get away from everything thank you couldn't fly all the time now in this new age of technology in visibility is something that we haven't quite been able to do and therefore it's just cool and i would have to say flying 'cause i just went visible my parents would be looking for me like i wouldn't people don't get away with being invisible furlong i gotta give that one the flying just because because you can go anywhere you want without having to pay is could be kind then i wouldn't have to do my homework because you wouldn't be able to sing we've got rhone accurate help us decide which super skill is the coolest hi ron i'm only so rhonette what are your thoughts about invisibility versus flying right off the bat have you thought about which of these superpowers you'd rather have a yeah i probably spent in unhealthy amount of time thinking about i mean for me honestly the tours surprisingly related since if you think about it anywhere you can get with flying you could just get with walking invisibly and vice versa i think obviously being invisible would be helpful lot of the time since you know you could you know obviously making sure do perfectly legal things but you know you can go figure out things you need to know about the same time flying is just you know cool and you know rather impressive especially if you think of a superman type situation so what'd you say that you have maybe a biased towards one do you see the pros of both right now yeah right now i'm i think i'm undecided there's definitely posta both i can't really think of any consta iser so would you say you feel about debates in general do you get into debates with their friends and family often a yeah unfortunately i am one of those people who is ultra ready to start debating in a very obviously reserve manner about you know anything from something serious does something silly like the definition stew porous sandwich i don't know if i'd say i'm particularly good at it but you know it happens so advice you have for debaters today i think people are much more willing to accept your argument or what you believe if they can relate do it personally or if they're you know laughing about off excellent so rhonette when you're not judging debates you are really into science and i know you were recently a finalist for a science talent contest you tell us a little about that yeah so this past year i was such is one of the top forty finalist in general and science talent search so we got invited to washington dc the showcase their projects and also you know learn a lot about the city end about science and engineering i developed eight portable and lowcost replacement for the device used to prescribe eyeglasses so how did you come up with that idea 'em yes so i've been wearing glasses ever since i was like eight years old 'em so i've had to go through the process anyone who wears gosar contacts knows of every year going back to be optometrist get a new prescription and i thought maybe i could improve that process that's awesome i bet that would be super useful if he lives somewhere like not near an eye doctor something yeah that's the idea to be used in areas that like you said don't have access to technology or or human resources to get that done so cool as someone who's also been wearing glasses since the age eight thank you for your research absolutely now without further ado it's time to introduce are debaters please welcome are veiled vixen of invisibility queen of unseen katie mcvay you can't see me but you can hear me hi katie in one sentence why do you think invisibility is cooler then flying well you never have to make small talk with boring people again thank you katie and now and now for are soaring star of flight it's a bird it's a plane it's brandy brown hello am brand name in just one sentence why is fine the coolest it's great because you couldn't zip through this guy's doing all sorts of new tricks all right before we get started let's run through the rules of the game round one is the declaration of greatness a passionate presentation from each side full of facts history ambler round two is the micro around are debaters have prepared response to a creative prompt the funniest most inspiring or moving response wins round three is a sneak attack it's a surprise challenge designed designed to test a debaters ability to improvise andrew round four is the final six where each debater gets just six more words to convince us their side is a smash boom best and got it everybody yup yup so little boy and awesome let the games begin it's time for our first round declaration of great we flip the coin and katie is up first all right katie let's hear it why is in visibility the coolest coolest we've all felt invisible at times i know in fifth grade when the teacher in calling me despite my rapidly waving hand i felt invisible which stinks or does it what if you got to decide when you were saying that's the true power and visibility when most thinking visibility we think magic be ancient greek philosopher plato is one of the first we know of to write about this kind of visibility in his story a shepherd named he is signed a magical rank that allows him to seemingly disappear invisible wonder what i can do this well he doesn't exactly do great he travels to the palace and overthrow the king illustrating plato's point that all people will do do bad things if they think they can get away with them well what do you do in literature invisibility often brings up interesting moral questions about right and wrong but sometimes it's just fun in harry potter harry's is his father's magical invisibility cloak to sneak down to the village hogs meat and have a relaxing day out by himself and sometimes in visibility is even a force for good like in comic books sue storm akkad invisible woman is a member of the fantastic four she could make herself and other objects totally invisible which is a pretty nifty power she can rescue someone without being seen she could easily trip henchman with an invisible foot plus she's the perfect by just in my lab the best time reliever adam top secret easel plans all those thank goodness i'm invisible no off to save the world in nature camouflage house all kinds of animals and insects blend into their surroundings essentially making them invisible ever heard of v octopus octopus those are great at hiding making change the color and even the texture of their skin to blend in with underwater plants but wait until you hear about the mic off the bus or the octopus mimic as i am a master of disguise sometimes i don't even recognize myself it could figure out what to impersonate based on animal attacking at so let's say mimic octopus she's a dancer fish damsel fetch will go after any animal and its territory but the dance is also super afraid of snakes well the ones you snake coming later boom the minute octopus changes color in waves says arms to make the fish tank it's actually to see snakes yes okay okay i hear you maybe ability the shift you're skin isn't exciting enough not thrilling enough now magical enough frio well don't don't worry because scientists are already working on real life closest we get the magic invisibility first let's talk about ice so they had seen object light from that thing needs to bounce off of it and enter you're i then you're i ingrained work together to process that light into and image for example when i look at my dog light bounces off my dog into my eyes and then my brain processes it all just say that's not good boy in order for something to be invisible scientists need to redirect okay maybe not that dramatic imagine a table in front of you on a table or two objects directly in front of you is a shiny red apple end a few feet behind that is in orange to make they apple and visible light would need to bounce off orange then bent around me apple missing it entirely in haiti arise in that way you'd cd orange but not be apple so this'll be university of rochester were actually able to do this they place for lenses across the table at varying lang these lenses were able to redirect live so long as you were staring straight through them and render what was in the middle of the table invisible if we did that experiment you'd be able the cd orange and not be apple don't move as long as you don't move against you say they're currently testing something we call mehta materials which they believe can redirect light and even cooler always the theory is the these materials will be wrapped around i'm moving objects and redirect light around them so that you can't see them were still a ways off from being able to hide large objects things in motion but invisibility is cool because it is challenging are minds is so boring we figured that out decades ago personally if i could be invisible i know exactly what i do i'd hide from people i don't wanna talk to you on the subway wasn't katie just here i pretend to be a ghost and scare my boyfriend on halloween end i totally sneak into museums at night not steal anything but just conceal the great art without any alliance shirt flying is flashy but in visibility is just plain cooler it's a harder scientific question a more important moral concept and if it became possible i'm definitely looking at tickets to see the mona lisa after dark some excellent arguments friend visibility there so mac what are what are two things in katie's declaration of greatness that really stuck out to you yeah i thought the dia the moral considerations the beginning where were interesting take on it and also being a massive nerd myself i really liked i liked hearing about all the all the cool things at scientists are working on taxi accomplishing visibility and met immaterial seem like awesome yes that would be very handy have available so brandy i know you're itching to respond so you've got thirty seconds to respond katie's love letter to in visibility in your time starts now okay first of all katie talks about invisible woman i just wanna let you know that's basically only superhero i will get to that later on she also talks about you could rescue people that only matters if it did the danger kunsi you and if it's easier you'll get in trouble but if a forest fire happened then you're invisible you're still gonna die if you're gonna fly away you'll be okay and her cell at the end was let's look at different fruit disappear katie that's amazing that's next time on like a true woman who is never once they convince her parents said she ater brussels sprouts katie what is it i heard i found a lot of things frightening including in certain vegetables which i find now it'd be leafy delicious nutritious okay brandy it is time before flying to take center stage let's hear it imagine you're helping your friend move to and apartment on the tenth floor now imagine the elevators broken so you take the stairs you carry fox's shares a tv somebody in your legs are destroyed from all the steps you're hungry so you order a pizza then you realize you have to walk all the way down the stairs to get to the pizza and then all the way up again you're tired legs if you had the power of flight you could have flown down grabbed the pie and and flown right back up to the apartment saving so much time and energy how being invisible help you get pizza faster oh right it wouldn't this is based on a true story from my own life and it's an excellent example why having flight would be super helpful but fight is great for a lot more than picking up pizzas flight has got international travel from days and weeks just hours an it could also save live helicopters make daring mountaintop rescues large planes drop water an out of control forest fires flight makes so many rescues possible plus it's the fastest way to escape danger if you're lost in the woods you could fly and get your bearings in fact flight is so useful nature is made it in a central feature for many many creatures als wings don't make noise when they fly making hunting way easier common swish a type of bird could spend up to ten months in the air without landing monarch butterflies migrate three thousand miles to mexico from canada and the northern united states end according to the new york times a bird called the arctic turn to migrate almost fifty thousand miles each year that's like circling be earth at the equator twice impressive right you should see the frequent flyer miles all wrapped up fine it's so much cooler then camouflaged nature's invisibility given all that it's no wonder humans have jumped a flight freon tales of flying creatures people and god's can be found in cultures around the world rick mythology gave us the tales the pegasus a majestic flying horse an occurrence a man who flew too close to the sun with wings his father made from waxing feathers many cultures have tales of magical plan carpet there's the story of king solomon of israel's using the win kerry him on a carpet and in a russian folk tale item the full receives a flying carpet to explore beyond his kingdom there's so many superhero to fly captain marvel silverman storm batman doesn't even fly but his name from flying creature she wishes he had that power being invisible on the other hand can bring out the worst in a person without being seen they might want to steal things were sneaking places do bad stuff but flight typically brings out the best in us it inspires us and others in fact when you fly you usually want to be seen one of my favorite examples is the tale of bessie coleman bessie coleman with a black woman born in atlanta georgia in eighteen ninety two she became interested in flying after hearing stories from pilots returning home from world war one one day i'm gonna fly one of those in fact i'm gonna be the best pilot in the world but when bessie coleman tried doing role in american flight schools she was turned away either because of racism sexism or both if you think that's gonna stop me think again bessie learn french and moved to france where she enrolled in a pilot's school in nineteen twenty tony one she received her international pilot's license and return to the uss making her the first black woman in america to receive a pilot's license for five years bessie stock pilot who travel the country showing offer impressive skills gap herod horthy most spectacular air show you ever seen a new crash turned wide by extraordinary bessie coleman who will receive all these who is in up in her new show checkout the finale building he also gave speeches about flying and raise funds to create a school the train black pilots in nineteen twentysix she died tragically during a flight but her legacy lives on today schools libraries and airport roads have all been named for her she received a postage stamp and was inducted into the national aviation hall of fame the power of white inspired the young woman to break down barriers and paved the way for generations of pilots flying thank you wow grown acc what did you think of brandies case were flying she made some good points about the practical nature of flying and all the things that humans do without flight that we maybe not might be able to do with invisibility end 'em i think the the story about you know about people and their journeys through flight is also pretty powerful very troops okay well katie i know you have some things to say so you've got thirty seconds to respond to brandies heartfelt tribute to fight in your time starts now i think it's very interesting that brandy they began her argument by suggesting we all let her legs atrophies we could fly get pizzas and help her friends move something i'm always trying to get out of why would i wanna get a power that helps me my friends move a couch i don't want it no thank you next point flying is basic i hate it everybody's doing it boring snooze police i hate it and then also yeah maybe flying with majestic back in the day when all the magical carpets or whatever but i've lived okay here's i point out that katie wants to get out of helping her friends you wanna give someone like that invisibility absolutely not bad that's there's nothing that's gonna help me get out of helping my friends more than hiding through my invisible power why waste somewhere else where they say oh i'm i'm in town jolly brandy that's so shall we when i slink away from my friends i wanna do it silently all right rhone acc you've listened to both sides which argument did you think was more persuasive don't tell us out loud but it's time to award a point who tough it's very hard i think i have my point great listeners at home you should award a point to add if you need more time to think about it just press pause an if the idea comes to you while you're deliberating head to smash boom dot org and tell us all about it who knows we may use your suggestion to spark a debate down the line alright debaters you're gonna take a break lake rest you're wings and ease off that and visibility cloak because it's time for the state of debate we'll be back in a moment with more smash boom best your washing of debate whole region rhetoric firing argumentation todd douglas here with daytime debate jim taylor lincoln let's get right to it became a cat and today we've got a matchup it features an epic failure of a larger that's right it's an argument between a mother and a child classic she's trying to convince him to eat a cheeseburger not having it oh yeah ander vampires totally vampires sundown roll tape lot just taste the cheeseburger we're vampires mom we don't eat human food we eat humans but we came to florida to experience new themes that would you stop taking selfies he's then don't show up in pictures put away and just take by to deny before it gets cold listen it all starts with one by one the first of the grave cheeseburgers and i lose my for blood what is only burgers and become the laughing stunk up the international community a k freeze right there that is terrified i know the horror that could vampire meter frightening logical fallacy logical fallacy there when there's a big old aaron you're it's not to make it easier to poke holes in your argument that's right in this case the phone used a slippery slope fallacy gives me chills just thinking about it very slow but when you say that one action like eating cheeseburger will start a chain of events that leads to a big outcome one that's happened in the first place let's hear it again what the first off the grid cheeseburgers and i lose my taste for blood what if i only eat burgers and become the laughing stock of the international community a little it's even worse the second time sure is because any debater would know that there are lots of other possible outcomes besides becoming an international laughingstock detritus scare his mom and giving up but unfortunately for him moms don't scare easy specially vampire moms that he's not going to happen lab and you know what i tried my enjoyed it and steed a blood lover you have nothing to lose besides i already paid for it fine looking at the weather after shore but wait until he brings my fries first she was not having that slippery slow just goes to show you week arguments never win keep that in mind will catch you next time on today's episode is sponsored by circle where you're kids buying apps they shouldn't signing up for social networks they're too young for the circle you can rest easy knowing that they're safe inside the guidelines you said with circle home plus in the circle app parents can filter 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of you but here's the deal the only way to hear this bonus episode is to joined the debate club dream season to donate today to join the club and get this special bonus episode and the cool thing is you can't give any amount and be included in the debate club had just smash boom dot org slash debate club to join thank you so so much this is smash boom best this show about show atm's andy rely on are listener's support debate and suggestions for example slim come from when the gap pennsylvania sent us this great debate idea yes is just give them a call at the end of the show to see who they think would win all right let's get back to are smash boom battle of the day invisibility vs flying are elusive enigma and wing to wander are back for the micro round this week the micro around challenge is amusement park usa we asked brandy in katie to vision the rides the food and the fun to be had at an amusement park inspired by their side katie went first last time so brandy europe give us a story in tour of you're flying funds zone kids are you tired of birds having all the fun parents are you tired of parents burn children having all the fun well you'll love soren glide the first amusement park for those who want to fly penny penguin growing up in an article i trump just slapping flippers and taking to the sky and while it's still just a dream soren god gave me a taste of what did feel like when i first waddled in the park i visited outfitter like everyone else i received a special jumpsuit with plenty of zippered pockets it's so i didn't lose my wallet her keys i wasn't ready for flight and if you use a wheelchair or other system device don't worry there special three wheelchairs that allow you to take off and land from any of are attractions so let's get the fun stuff to experience what it's like to skydive without having to find a plane or be high off the ground tunnel fans will air straight up a pattern column duke and just float in miguel and do all sorts of cool tricks sweet flipping thinks it relaxing sightseeing is more you're speed try a blip tour above the city but if you want action go to this superhero to it's a virtual reality flight simulator style style of flying you like you could be soaring sixty miles per hour above the ground apparently felton cool zipping through or run at seventeen thousand five hundred miles per hour just like the international space station but what about when you're hungry hurry prior food court where you could actually diamond grab you're like a bird when i want fresh seafood i usually dive into the sea from the lander ice but something about diving through their it really does make it taste better last only a few share with your sister this is only a fraction of the fun you'll have it soren glide the park or flightless birds people get to be above it all soren glide making your find dreams come true rhone acc sound like a place you'd wanna visit yeah it's making making all my all my childhood memories of pretending to be a superhero flounder oh man let's go all right katie let's hear your vision fern amusement park where invisibility rains right after step right up to invincibility oh you can't see let me turn visible for a second that we go see a fantastic ride like invisible brother the right when you turn invisible and play pranks sudden you're the best friend you could have without getting grounded and over here we have invisible ice cream trying not to drip it on your shirt it'll be such a gift see a little over here coaster where you're taking on a ride of your own memories but get the darn invisible journey embarrassing one tripped in front of your entire classroom ninety along i know you're invisible now boy will be careful every ride and rider invisible so it's likely made trip over one to attend and over here is i ride called us see you're most overbearing relative is chasing you with a camera you must turn invisible to escape bad holiday sweater committed the film pack you could win morally ambiguous superpower oh and visibility park sounds like a great place for introverts so rhone acc what do you think would you like to visit invisibility park yeah that sounds like a like a mind mind bending interesting experience for sure all right well rhone acc it's time to award a point for this micro around to incredibly fun so doesn't barks heavy markdown you're point i have excellent now it's time for sneak attack brandy and katie have no idea what the sneak attack is going to be are you ready to improvise today yup oh you see sam excellent well today sneak attack challenge is a haiku for you haiku who is a traditional japanese palm that is seventeen syllables long for those of you that need a reminder syllables are the number of beats in a word so for example apple has two syllables a poll an honor mata pia on moscow so pedia has six high coups have three lines with five syllables in the first line seven in the second and five in the third aunt the lines don't usually rhyme here's an example smash boom best is rad judge creative debating the learn some new things katie and brandy please take a moment to write a haiku about how great your site is add another one about how terrible the other side is and i mean did did they beat the bulls you can be voted on one you know why do then planes in the guy my dreams are that don't you agree all right katie you're up first let's hear you're high coups okay here's my pro invisibility heiko sade yourself away invisibility k natta zip zilch oh and here's my antifa flying go soaring high flashy you will be hit in the face by a gross bird coach excellent katie brennan you it is it's your turn explore far and wide the limit the universe fly fast superpower very nice very nice and this is my antifa invisibility one can't see katie now it is not that cool amusement park sad all right roadwork you've heard the haiku heat brought by are to debaters it's time to board a point i think i got it excellent the showdown is almost over but we still have one more round left the final sixteen brandy and katie each have six final words to persuade swayed row neck that your side is the smash boom best brandy europe flying many ways to be cooler so thanks to the point katie your turn invisibility the thinking man's superpower that one's a thinker all right rhone akot it's time to aboard air final point yeah i feel like these both just be campaigns sue disrespect a seat on like a bumper soon have you decided who the winner is indeed a have a right so it's kinda tally up those points the moment we've all been waiting for rhonette please tell us who won this ethic debate battle a so the winner was katie wasn't visibility goes you know she's she's she brett brown this storm each round well run that could you tell us what were the deciding factors 'em so yeah the deciding factor is from me were 'em kind of along the lines of the fact that you know and visibility with something something that you know we don't have readily and it's kind of mysterious in a way and i'm i'm definitely i'm attracted by that and i got i love the the bumper sticker and visibility the thinking man's do that's good that's good i loved hearing about bessie eagle and then yeah that was that was a fun story defined i did not know about it they still a black pilots to fly over of her grave in chicago every year i think in november that's really cool i mean i i'm looking at oranges to so rochester pretty exciting well rona thanks invisibility one but what do you think we want no had to smash boom dot org andy vote you'll see what other listeners think an whether they agree what's next decision i'm confident my decision but i'd be really curious and no other people think that's it for this debate smash boom best is the creation of the people have brains on end american public media producer mark sanchez sand and tighten molly bloom elicit the deadly and rosie dupont read engineering help from veronica rodriguez donald pass and dave drexler and we have production help from mantica will how christina love that and laurenti brother is the voice of are hold music aunt are announcer is marley foyer worker auto we wanna give a special thanks to just include tanner kaufman austin cross sam to noah gregory eric bring in michael jeffrey be so on esters in peter egland brandy is there anyone you wanna think today yes i'd like to thank my mom alice brown and my cat cookie lion and what about you katie i'd like to thank my boyfriend match you go to that shot up at my dog that's a shame good an de new yorker writer kathryn schultz who wrote a great article and instability in how about you rhonette any special shout outs yeah i'd like to think there were general science talent search dia awesome program that i was able to find out about this really cool podcast awesome end before we go let's call up a limb and malcolm their listeners who suggested the ten vs pencil debate i think pailin no initiation penciled wins this is a generational you have to worry about running out of his brothers on either side of the debate who do you think would win if you have an idea effort ethic debate battle had to smash boom dot org and tell us all about it that's it for this episode of smash boom best will be back soon with another debate battle pizza invisible man in a magical a pattern and the magic man

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Johnny Appleseed (Entry 060.SS0203)

Omnibus! With Ken Jennings and John Roderick

49:47 min | 1 year ago

Johnny Appleseed (Entry 060.SS0203)

"In Yemen surge we are Jennings and John Rodrick we speak to you from our present which we can only assume as your distant past the turbulent time that was the early you have access entry zero six zero dot s s zero two zero three or attempt to compile and preserve wonders esoterica that would otherwise be lost so whether you're listening in from an advanced civilization or just reinvented the technology to decrypt certificate number three six six nine two Johnny appleseed well every time I see Rossum Scott you've niles in the far future but do kids today even get all the time in elementary school we had to spend on tall tales and American hero our transmissions this is our legacy to you this is our time capsule this is the bus rabble as as Gargantuan protagoras a satire about these big lusty giants doing big lusty giant things and I guess Greek mythology is the same way and that's how we yeah like a half of elementary school as tall tale a genre that really doesn't exist you know my daughter has almost she has never referred to a person with a Pumpkin for a head I I think Johnny appleseed of course them clouds up our dean really clouds at all no sir by shucks there wouldn't be no apple blossom sky but warned for the fact that Johnny now hold on here guess I better start back to the beginning I don't even know about taken out of the Raj and turned into this American sort of dam builder I mean there's certainly a tradition going back ages of these kind of bigger than life rabbis that feels like I spent half half of a second grade thinking it's so important to know this horse Paco's bill could Larry a tornado the island of Rhodes around whatever that's how all those stores end the same way that's where the streets of neck and neck from a good I was wondering the elephant got it spot but there's only one of these folk years you have a favorite by the way your favorite American folk here Oh wow you know homer what were my favorite I mean the headless horseman did scare the the the Dickens Outta me I think there there are so many aircon kids getting their butts kicked on jeopardy by computers and whatnot you gotTa Admire John Henry just going to his grave trying to humiliate the giant statues yes and if people if these survive in the upper midwest surely the only thing that survived every tiny liked Dakota Minnesota town has these two I think Bunyan couldn't butter up a grill with butter the size of a mattress how are you going to how are we gonna dig that that tunnel across the rockies to build the train it's almost like a kind of crazy sir you could just sense there's something authentic about it But because he like he he beat a machine in our in our age of growing automation and good evolved from Santa Claus Twentieth Century but you know if you go to the state of Washington website there's only one American folk you're who gets his own page on the Russian as to WHO and I've heard that about John Henry as well like these stories really started with one of these three guys named John maybe this is all people ready they feel a lot closer than that horseman could be something from the Dutch or fourteen hundred but but John Henry I think we should do Paul I kind of like John Henry not just because he's African American although it does make me seem super woke that John Henry better than you always did oh person whereas Paul Bunyan was not right apparently a lot of these have real life antecedents Casey Jones I think is based on a real train guy although there yeah that was the Grand Canyon intelligent design but it's a giant lumberjack is our God well it's like kipling just so stories except uh-huh steam drill that's a little newer than him well and the fact that these American foundation legends a lot of them are nineteenth century so they feel the plain white t's had there was a real delight and she was annoyed when they wrote the song so like if the president is any guide or Ellen it's like Alan interesting it's too whiny that that gives you that gives you something to purchase write a song called Ellen but it's about it's about state of Washington webs even though he died decades before Washington was a state and that's johnny appleseed now Johnny appleseed was a real dissertations after the fact and they're getting it wrong but Johnny appleseed is very much somebody that in his time contemporaries would have thought of as a as a fun legendary folk hero let in Song Right I think some of those folk songs are as as their as ingrained in me as anything I could sing those songs the daytime talk show that you love yeah you never eager another one called the People's Court wapner you didn't get to the fact that some of these are surprisingly recent like some of them are kind of like Slick magazine inventions right well it's just like Santa Claus or just like our sent Santa Claus so did Johnny appleseed like four for future apple trees listening to the program sentient apple trees who are you come here or come from here no like Johnny appleseed did spread apple trees all say syphilis he did read syphilis you can hand me a banjo right now and I'd be able to play them today there's interviews and you'll hear the band being like Yeah Sharon actually was poultry throughout the North West but it was the north west of the time which is Indiana Yeah Ohio Ohio Pennsylvania Pennsylvania that's the Luo Johnny appleseed but but Washington celebrates him because just because we're in apple producing face or did he one thing that the church records do make clear that his mother did die in July seventeen seventy six oh so she probably got enjoy America for like a week she got there though she got for most of the the week that America existed maybe word wouldn't even have got to to wilkes bar or wherever she was living so johnny contemporaries with if they ran across it was there a Dinah oh someone's in the kitchen with Dinah was there was there a Susannah our yeah babe the blue ox was always have you you've driven down through Oregon and seen Paul Bunyan Babe the blue ox who to God this guy is like they had scripture probably about this guy wandering I there was one apple tree and then then LCD mythos let's see the way he's portrayed to me in nineteen seventies elementary school was that he was part of the doesn't have a song that a name that ends with a with a with a vowel right like Susanna I thought you were just taking care of her privacy that you're just nagging her name Ah Cohen Brothers have led me to believe should do an omnibus on Paul Bunyan statue right okay we'll say that but yeah let's see a great fruition of America we tainting the yeah we we'd cleared the forests the great hardwood forests of the upper midwest which would the WHO's the guy that sat under the tree and woke up fifty years later yeah that's another Washington Irving you're just you're just a head that's the thing I do like Washington now actually he was he was very chaste are isn't that a relief to you who thank goodness only spreading one cat AC- if you don't have to cancel Johnny Southern Ontario there what do you what's your impression of him from just kind of vague twentieth century out there in the ether johnny before Apple's all became like wax that's the one st website is like don't you love biting into a great apple well well so did Johnny Apples Mola Navy what if it's July third she was still probably laying in state on somebody's copy tape that's true but she was also probably ailing of whooping cough fruit trees in what is today Ontario I mean there are regions of what is now Ontario that were Johnny appleseed nurseries he was kind of in trying thank them still in small pockets that were being cleared but she she talks about them with the service reverend law but then he was coming along and when I say that President I mean the early nineteen eighties an actor in my Song Nora is really about a girl named Ellen you change the name Yeah because I'll ellen Daniel Boone or was Daniel Boone even later day will be the only a little later they they I think they would have overlapped by a few decades that's my sense in my head without looking at cross paths Serena and I think that's true she knows real estate in Reseda California or something then it and the plain white can't beat it and now the food that's the only thing that future knows about Daniel Boone. So he's he may have met Johnny. appleseed Johnny appleseed never went as far south as the Cumberland gap like there are need to get a twentieth century idea of the Johnny appleseed I watched the one thousand four hundred eight Disney cartoon of Johnny appleseed I think John Henry waiter once you could have black people in movies they did I think there's a Paco's Bill I'm picture Regina Narva he was a Yankee yeah it before almost before that was a distinction but yeah he never went south western West Virginia but you're right Illinois Indiana cartoon yeah it was a segment of one of these movies they did right after the war they didn't have the budget to do kind of a lush a snow white kind of a thing so they did kind of mini fantasia were a bunch of little music where I got a some real insight into migrant farm labor yeah because I was out in the field and I and my co workers and friends were all a my you know my mom grew up in Ohio and she had she talks about the last vestiges of those great hardwood forests that were just and seeding the new empire with APP apples were away were a cheap source of of food and money like here for you know what I discovered was picking apples is a skill this is one of those this is one of those instances Rian Gay that's how Janis spent all his day says the narrator it's one of these things with a lot of whistling he's just jumping around clicking his heels together he's actually like the and they and everyone loves an apple I mean you hear the Johnny appleseed story along and it's always presented with a picture of kid kind of biting into juicy red delicious shorts how would be placed together and narrated by Bing crosby or I've seen it just it all jumbles together any love that kind of like they did a Paul Bunyan they did migrant laborers who came through picked orchard and then moved on to the next orchard and then when Apple Season was done they moved on somewhere else where there was more harvesting to do but you were just a Dilettante is there social security number or something like that and the five guys ahead of me on the list all had written the same social security number but then we got out into the Orchard Hey by the Bushel go knock yourself out and there was a sign in sheet where you at at the start of the day you write your name and then your address children getting up to online and you've talked about trying to limit their their access and then you find that Dylan's got some burner phone under his bed and I would put my ladder down and I'd climb up and I'd reach out and pick an apple and I'd look over and the guy on the tree next to me had filled the Bush that was not a problem it was cute that they were on club penguin or Webcams all the time right now I literally spend ninety percent of my waking hours thinking what are my is in there this literally happened like with both my kids I've had issues where we thought we had smart rules about screens and devices and nature finds a way as a nerd he lives in Pittsburgh town he's he's a nurseryman which I think was true he had some training and Orchard Rear that a word surgery work in singing circle circle is basically a way to manage your family's online time across all they're connected devices inside a imagine show up sometimes there's all these little kids with like tin pots on their head like a Hole Jenner Asia Yeah no it's he did spread never ever come Mitch we're probably sight to behold that's not true one hundred years after the event whatever it is beautiful hardwood forest we'll be back in time square so and Johnny appleseed as a gangly kind of starkey crotchety covad crane so is that how they depict him yeah he's in the Disney version it's very much foreground awesome for your household rules are around screens and devices and I've wished that there was a way to do it well there is a way and it's called I'm like no it's problematic those were the does so I have often wondered like how do you solve this like there should you should be able to enforce whatever your family up branches and he slides down the branch in such a way that all the apples come off and go ball landed his landon is wheelbarrow picked apples in Yakima one season is it can what do you do about Caitlin Dylan on the Internet do you just let them have unfettered access to the web when they were little check out meet circle dot com slash omnibus interim nervous to save thirty dollars in the Disney version Johnny C's the wagon trains heading west because he's very early interestingly Johnny appleseed we don't know his early history is very sketchy John Chapman the man who would be Johnny appleseed being again western Pennsylvania never untamed if he's from Pittsburgh town he's in western Pennsylvania so they're headed out Ohio it could be local white Guy Finding himself yeah oh meal I I was seventeen and needed a job and was like hey Mr can I have a job and he was like yeah it was like hey wow and they're laughing at me and just like really enjoying what an incompetent I I didn't fill a box of course of a whole day I got paid five dollars the home plus when you visit meet circle dot com slash omnibus and enter the code omnibus at checkout if this is an issue in your Berg town holding nothing but a Bible in a bag of appleseed and tinpot on his head see that's the great thing about about Culture American culture from the fifties that we watched in and how God has blessed his apples and in the in the cartoon at the time is his religion portrayed as a as a ver pomez it is in ours in your era as it is in mine I encourage you to check this out again that's thirty dollars off when you visit meet circle dot com and enter omnibus at the appleseed did carry a Bible John Chapman did carry a Bible but not because he was just kind of vaguely religious benevolent guy he was a proselytizer and outside your home trying this out they sent they sent me a circle home plus a little circle up and it really does all the things I was looking for filtering who can go to what sites like horsing time limits on when it's okay to be surfing and when it's not like which things do you not want your kids signing up for a profile for each person on their its customer needs to worry about with your kids but like with circle there's one less thing to worry about well right now our listeners which is to say the future lease get thirty dollars off of a circle devout proselytizing Swedenborg ine so the apples were just cover story no that was his day job I see what is circle home plus so the only thing he can do now is go out to the parking lot of a supermarket with his friends and look at their phones yes I mean there's there's always going to be shoe or is it portrayed as a thing that that increases his nerdy no it's absolutely unquestioned virtue I mean maybe he's a little squeaky clean he's he literally leaves Org hs ideas were very odd by the kind of strict Scandinavian standards of his upbringing like he goes to hell and there's not a lot of torment other alternatives that are appealing and often led by more recent charismatic figures your Mary Baker Eddy Your Joe Smith Your Emmanuel Swedenborg and it's Burgum do you know the work of Swedenborg Eighteenth Century Swedish Mystic Emmanuel Swedenborg no I'm kind of ashamed seventies which was that he's got a Bible he's awesome he was super unquestioning about like well Christianity at least everything else is going to hell but this gap in my knowledge I kind of tend I had to look it up I kind of lumped it in with the and all these kind of later quasi cult things and it turned out later there was quite a bit of over gangling Kabad cranked up why do I have to offer and he he's very in the cartoons very religious he's he's singing a song about the sun and the rain and the appleseed I recruit seeks of Swedenborg are are trying to dissuade converts from joining because it was not unlike adventist or the Mormon movement or these kind of new branches but he was just a Lutheran mystic who started having visions where he would go to heaven and go to hell and like go to Jupiter and Saturn and chat with there's people just doing the same kind of debauchery they were doing here and so obviously that's something that sounds pretty good right what's the where's the catch so a lot of in this day Sweden Morgan's kind of revere him some kind of profit prophetic revelatory they're still Swedenborg you yeah it was called the new is a book and it's every device on your network so my son's little burner phone workaround from season four of the wire would not work anymore he's he cannot outwit the and he's jealous of their their obvious kind of strength and fortitude because he's kind of they're kind of rough he man and he's he's like you said Ha you have policies for your daughter well no because I'm still in that stage where her interest in the Internet is just like can we watch lady and the tramp again church because in their in their mind this is one of the weirder and to Protestant is more heretical things about them is that the last judgment has already happened accounting and the books balanced and he's like all right here we go it's fiscal judgment three wow okay I'm more and more convinced by this of of of Christianity popping up scaring the Protestants right they have they have some some monopoly and now there are some they would have a the differences would seem very small to anyone who's not super religious he thinks that you have to do good things to save your soul was just an administrative last judgement fiscal year somebody stamped piece of paper and put it in a file and it was like well done yeah the great flood happens in God has given the funny thing is like the even in the seventeen eighty s or whatever this would've seven later eight seven thousand nine hundred hundred the the reality would have been a lot more complicated whole motorists trip those motorists have nothing to say to me and the fact that people were having fun in Hell of course it's a problem because they were splits hairs and a wrong way instead of thinking that God is triune you know three and one thing that the the God's son like you know we looked at that Hieronymus Bosch painting a different entry and it was very baroque uncomplicated his imagination the Bible is just like there's a lake and it's on fire and you know getting up on a stump and waving his Swedenborg Ian Flyers around and handing out literature and do you get an apple tree if you listen to their son and Holy Ghost are actually just divine manifestations of the same one thing right you and I that might sound the same but if you're if you're a sufficient was there nothing outwardly his mystical visions have told him that seven hundred fifty seven judgement and now there's a new dawn for Christianity that needs a leader like him sports play off the great flood that was the final judgment for those guys'll it's a final four situation we are right it's like it's your era has its own the apple trees were to pay the rent so he again he's not just scattering see by the roadside like in the popular imagination he would actually he was he was smarter than that he would. And that's not Luther airy Catholics the whole reason lutheranism came around right and and his version of the trinity apparently so you converted mystic we Johnny appleseed there's a lot there's a lot more I need to know so you know Protestant one weird Trick Protestants hate him create fenced in nurseries where he would plant the appleseed that he had brought from back east and although he was in the thing and in Sweden Borg's mind the final the final judgment had happened in seventeen fifty seven when what happened in seventeen fifty seven the final judgment I singer during the great cataclysm that will surely befall our civilization we began this monumental reference of strange obscure human knowledge these recordings represent good receive their reward in heaven it's pretty specific about how the bad received their house kind of the same few tropes if you're actually read the movie he surrounded by woodland creatures because he's forty s Disney character like the squirrels all love him and the skunks don't spray on him from the Birds Little Bluebirds tweet around his head the good is still being good and the bad that's you know Christianity is very vague about the afterlife and we like it like that yeah well it's about how about how rabbit is there and the in the in the movie like it's really pointed out that he's some early echo guy the first tecom without a knife without a gun to sell rhymes of course this being Disney in the forties and in real life that's true that he the Swedenborg Ian belief does say that all life is sacred so it's not just these past in a few like the last judgement comes in ages it's like a you know it's like I don't know integral and you want to have that one hundred rebel loves a comeback you wouldn't call me on it Lee doctrinarian Protestant you would recognize Swedenborg Harrison has modal ISM a real bugaboo for you know no I don't I don't follow that everybody there start religion but he was but he was living in hoops solid or something so he did not have the chemical AIDS that you might have had like he he he's coming by this honestly I don't I don't think of Lutheranism as being a religion that has a lot of and this leads to some conflict because Sweden it's good anyway so John Chapman would actually you know we picture him scattering his by the side of the rubber really he's shown up in town giving sermons and baddest as Mohammedan like it was too Muslim oh too many wives in hell I'd like to have to have versions of Heaven and hell they're just like earth but like people are supposedly you're going to be like ooh wow that's on fire I like lakes that are on on isn't Ohio in the seventy s officed he's actually he wouldn't clear an acre he was vegetarian I know that I think he was I think he was against you know other other settlers of course we're clearing the land so there was plenty of places where he can say hey buddy wanna he can be the accident sit on the stump and not have the the sap on his hands but there's lots of yeah it never occurred to me that within the within the nurseryman person nursery persons that that there would be like varying ethics about grafting which seemed like it was like grafting estate but but that was the rain that he traveled over his long life and he was I think like we see in the stories just on ends up being a medium sized golden long eared coyote and I assume that's what it is right. It's a little little tiny mutations that actually separate Johnny appleseed unusual is that he was because he did not you know pete an apple even grafting grafting is the way you get a fruit tree to keep producing good fruit double thing that's that's dedication you know And at the end of the Disney movie they talk about how he had a hundred thousand square miles of of apple trees a- as we'll see we'll come back to this but you know people on the mayflower had been bringing grafted branches you know as far back as the PURITANS had brought grafted apple trees from Europe apples apple from a bad one and you can't count on the next litter of your of your of your Mutt puppies all having the cute golden retriever ears or whatever and that actually is more or less the extent of his reach obviously that's not one huge apple orchard the size of one hundred thousand square miles that's huge that's gotta be a three Oh because that would be some kind of Frankenstein thing that would require the death of a branch or the death of the tree he took the brands from I guess whoa originally I domesticated in Kazakhstan and then got Swiss yeah isn't that were kind of cool and then got sweeter and better as they moved across Europe through the Greeks and the Romans yrant figure that would show up with a Tin Pot on his head he would use his cooking pot as a hat for keep the rain out of his eyes and he would wear kind of burlap coffee sacks essentially the underwear of his of his because I guess you cannot just throw a golden delicious apple seed in the ground it doesn't get golden delicious thousand grow it comes back at as some it's like the dog it always and the kind of central Asian traffic that started to happen but he would not do it he would he would not he would not do it because it was an nation before God that's right a a pot on the head is not as comfortable as it sounds I don't even think it sounds confidence right was less comfortable than that it doesn't have any kind of I the I share was an incredible technology and ancient one with the that makes good fruit trees rather than just eating pie chart from what I understand this is actually what made John Right is slice off the ears it put them on a new dock they returned to their to their native sourness and it's like just like me yeah and the and eight or anything big handle put the handle out front but a pot is circular and your head is oval shaped that's exactly right yeah do you think he had a weird Turn of the century bug Zapper basically and he feel so bad about this douse campfire 'cause he's like a genus of the people apple trees and that's now his orchard and he can sell it to some local guy and then leave with the money at the time of his death he he was a land shaped pot the size of his head like the way people that time would have death masks may maybe Charlie Brown head although that would look really weird ache about grain body exactly maybe he had a Pumpkin the idea may have given to you of him as Kinda vow of poverty kind of guy is he was very canny traveler the the laws at the time said that if you plant trees that's a homestead uh-huh so but but these stories maybe maybe try and the thing that he would not do because of his Swedenborg in beliefs about the sacredness of life is he would not graft an apple on what a savvy guy forget that a lot of the a lot of the great sort of Protestant the pious Protestant uh-huh he's gaming the homestead act he is working the system so he won't very cleverly fence off a nursery plant fifty and he still owned twelve hundred acres that he had not turned over boo so he was flipping houses basically but apple tree version come on Kasan twitter all the time if you're like banks and S G W so social johnny wonder of of northeastern America were also super capitalists right the puritans were all very business oriented and this seems like it up and they were from that particular area that where where puritan strains of religion got a toehold so yeah I think that's like a like a little sneaky but also like really savvy I assume they brought it with them because part of the from that part of England right the southeast for head like like the other Washington characters of the time the thing we don't say about Johnny appleseed is that he was actually despite the into my very devout minimalist God I imagine that if you're a member of an ascendant mercantile class you're maybe some of the first old and you know there must have been some level of my family can get ahead it's not just I'm willing to sacrifice it all so I can pray in poverty be cool with that but in some part of their mind they must have also been oh and it's a wide frontier frontier where land is free and the Spaniards say there's that's pretty document I mean I know a lot of the early settlers came for sincere religious reasons you know they were dissenters they were dissenters of some kind that did not think the king was going to east where I wasn't going to be racist about about okay well you know the English had had had that was the merchandise mercantile class that he'd evolved the people that that ever ever occurred to them that there was social mobility yeah like my life could be better than my parents like they had this little thatched cottage but wait both mom and dad's sixteen forty ancestors are all in Virginia colony. So I don't have any puritan I don't have any of that good American Yankee Bowl of course immediately we're like there's gotta be a one of us has to be the governor I'll do that that should be me you come from political if I go to Massachusetts Bay colony thanking the money and the others timber as far as the I can see in the streets are paved with salmon or whatever and you come from the type a Alpha males among them we're like I feel like I should run this colony when you think about four unfortunately they were both Virginia and then either through Kentucky or through Ohio I was just having dinner on Friday with a friend of mine who met you at a Christmas party or something at our place and said Oh family's kind of you know Politiken Yeah Yeah Walk into a room and know who to talk to kind of came from that it came from it came from awesome you know the Welsh side of my family got here La later I have I have on my father's side yeah people that were here in sixteen Yeah that John Guy like he had actually looked up some of your music online and heads common experience of meeting me idiot converted just need to spend all night just finding more about this guy he's a rookie in now he believes the final judgment happened a day before he saw your Elliott Smith cover on Youtube become up within that you and your Teachers Walt Disney were four grounding which is like how important it was to have delicious apples on the on the frontier in your neighborhood you enslave all the guests at my Christmas party and make them pick tobacco it's different it's it's the new slavery it's mind slips social flavor I feel like of all the misconceptions I have debunked about Johnny appleseed for the future who knows them more unclouded view of John Chapman the biggest one is the one often talking to somebody and that was his first impression of you and now I know it comes from your slaveholding give you an apple tree and and then also end up planning fifty three it's all about how it's kind of like when forrest gump's friend is like Krill Shrimp Tramp Butterfly Shrimp tramp Eh Betelnut so the the narrator is really sold on this idea that all the pioneers would have died if they had just had jars and jars full of apple butter right apples were not delicious edible apples their crab apples they're awful apples because he's he's using seat right he's not using delicious grafted pickles they may or may not exist apple pickles. I'm not even sure apples apples do keep in the root cellar for a while it is a fruit you can eat all winter like that but they're doing it with the narrators like apple pickles apple tarts apple dumplings I can remember actually apple the whole song in the Disney version about all the recipes you can make with apples insider as well that's the that's the rub the Disney version really downplays the cider better will a lunchtime snack or delicious pie they they went into to drink so johnny appleseed was basically the weed dealer other early was this was the most profitable use right up until prohibition almost every apple grown in America I mean the vast majority of apples grown in America did not turn water is not super potable you need a mile alcoholic drink beer or cider I think to this day judging by my experience Major League Baseball game in most states beer and cider bidders at the time I assume because you take a bite and you're like that apple sucks I'm not making delicious dumplings out of this but those are great cider apple are cider a he literally was delivering to the people what they wanted which was hard cider right back then when we've talked about this before and cultures you know tobacco growing slavonic just the just the worst but the best to the worst but is that where you got your act yeah I think I think it it functions as a again right between beer and wine you can make really hard cider that is like moonshine in rural America isn't that weird space between beer and wine where it I it depends on Kenya where you are in some in some situations it feel slightly more he's from his from his wilkes bar nurseries he's just he's just throwing seized by the side of the road this is great so all the trees are just growing what they would have called lied Disney does not really foreground this in their version well what's what's Hilarious is that as you absolutely have to sir well he just like it just seems like you know he he just has that vibe where you know he's just always going to like walk into a room and feel wine it was every social situation you would have your cider applejack or Apple Sass or or whatever they called it and that was true until prohibition regulated the same way they're kind of the the slightly less alcoholic but socially acceptable thing that a guy with a thing around his neck can just toss you cider expect right now there's an incredible resurgence in the craft brew culture does this include Craft cider of cider looking for old homesteads and burned down farms that are covered over with vines and they go bushwack back in there and find these old and so what do yeah so Johnny appleseed was supplying the west with cheap alcohol despite his kind of Prim religious beliefs and you can see in Washington now looking for cider apples to make his own his own label of of like super vintage of Of like lost time cider apple varietals that I think are varieties that are old cider apple trees that were planted in the eighteen hundred I love this is this is like the boys in Berry entry and they take cuttings of them and then and there's this whole market now insider I'm like how many how many kegs of cider do you need to make to make more money

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