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Airbnb cancels and blocks inauguration week reservations
"Airbnb announced they will block and cancel all reservations and the washington. Dc area during inauguration week in light of officials requesting people travel to the capital
U.S. Justice Department investigating more than 170 people over Washington, DC riots
"Six days after the violent attack on the us capital law enforcement finally help the first federal press briefing about what happened. That is an acting attorney. General united states the podium or the director of the fbi not just the local guys acting us attorney the district kumble columbia and the assistant director in charge of the fbi. Washington field office to talk to the country on camera for the first time about the attempted insurrection against the us government at the capitol. And what they are doing to bring the rioters to justice. We have already opened one hundred and seventy more than one hundred seventy subject files meaning. These individuals have been identified as potential persons that committed crimes on the capitol grounds inside and outside so of those one hundred and seventy cases that have already been opened in. I anticipate that's going to grow to the hundreds in the next coming weeks we've already charged over seventy cases just yesterday. Our office organizers strikeforce of very senior national security prosecutors and public corruption prosecutors. they're only marching. Orders from me are to build seditious and charges related to the most heinous acts that occurred in the capital some encouraging actions. There is still feels like things are not quite moving that quickly given the scope and stakes of what is at issue here and more importantly the impending threat of further armed assault politicos national security correspondent in touch with virtual joins. Me now natasha. I what what did you. What was your takeaway from the briefing today. Well it was clear that the fbi first of all was trying to do some cleanup on its own behalf. So the fbi official their emphasized that the warnings that they received were in fact shared with their state and local partners so they did share them with local law enforcement officials according to official. And that was i. Think an attempt to say look. We did our part of the job and it was up to say capital. Police are the members of the joint terrorism task force in washington. Dc to kind of put together. The security measures that were necessary in order to respond to the kind of violence threats and intelligence that they were that they were receiving. So i think this was part of what we've seen in the last week as a continuation of the fbi's attempt to say we did our job. Now the rest is up to you and then with regard to the attorney's office which michael sherwin was talking about. They want to say look. We are taking this seriously with regards to pursuing further charges. But take aways obviously is. We're not seeing the fbi director on stage not seeing briefings directly from the head of the fbi and from senior officials who might indicate to the rest of the country and to potential violent rioters. Who might come back to the capital that this is something that has gone to the highest highest levels of government that will not be tolerated. And i think that that is something that is also concerning some folks tonight. I mean it's a week after it happened six days and no i mean i don't know who runs the h s. Now chad wolf gone. Lord knows who's running that place. Fbi director chris. Wray the acting attorney. General jeffrey rosen image. Just it is shocking to me shocking. Inexcusable that we have not had a briefing. It's remarkable and national security officials who have spoken to have also said. Look you know one of the reasons why we might not be. Seeing them is because they might be afraid that they could get fired. You know in the week. That's left of this administration that speaking truth about this and the reasons why it was incited the realities of why these protesters came in and the capital would force them to lose their jobs and that you know take it at face value. Which is that. The president has never accepted his own officials. Speaking the truth about and and speaking In criticizing him anyway. So i think that's part of it.
Stabenow Is Among Senators Calling For Trump's Removal
"Democratic senator debbie stab of michigan called for trump to be removed from office following last week's attack on the capital and she joins me. Now senator. first. Your reaction to the news about mitch mcconnell which. I think some are surprised by well first of all. I'm not surprised that he knows that. Down trump committed impeachable acts. He knows that is a bright man. The question will be whether or not he's gonna stand with senator schumer who has asked him to use the powers that they have under two thousand four senate resolution to bring us back in an emergency to the senate to be able to act so after the house acts you know if he really means it than he will join chuck schumer. We will come back into session and we will have the trial and we will get this done. And he'll join us doing that to me. That would be the as to whether or not he means that. That's a good point. So so you believe he has under his power to bring you back and start this trial should should the president be impeached. Tomorrow's we expect under this one article that has been offered for his incitement of this mob in pursuit of this project overturning a democratic election. You think the senate should come back. Mitch mcconnell series about this. You should be back in the next few days and do it before. The president leaves office absolutely. I mean there's a two thousand four senate resolution is passed. Senator schumer has reached out to mitch mcconnell and said let's say it's -mergency powers. This certainly isn't emergency all the pictures we've been saying you've been showing tonight and we have been seeing constantly the experiences that we had this is an emergency and they could together. Bring us back into session and we could get this done. That will be the real thing that that matters. I mean is he going to actually act on this. We just seen too much of this enabling for four years. And i was thinking. Oh chris that a year ago we were actually in a trial in the senate right now. We were in a trial. And if the republicans have mitch mcconnell had joined with us then we would have not had the way that the krona virus has handled that has caused almost three hundred and eighty thousand desk. We wouldn't have what happened last week. We wouldn't have had those five deaths so that was just a year ago that they could have acted well now if he really believes that there were impeachable acts which of course there were than. He's step up. He's a step up in show some leadership. What do you think about the members of congress both houses who have supported who have given kind of even conference the president's big lie on this on this score the they've done it in this very kind of too cute by half way on seeking now josh hawley. Ted cruz of a lot of people feel this way and we're just asking questions and we should have a commission but when all said and done they voted not to seat the electors who were rightfully elected by the people as part of our democratic system. What do you think of those colleagues in both houses. I think shameful. I think in some way. They should be held accountable. I know that there are requests for ethics committee. Investigations am i i. I'm supportive of holding them accountable. In some way i mean. We can't will von and have healing without accountability in without justice. And by the way. Chris we do need to move and we have a president and a vice president being sworn in on january twentieth. We also need to be confirming a secretary of defense secretary of homeland security secretary of the treasury all of these important positions with donald trump. We actually came in the twentieth to put the secretary of defense in place immediately. I want to know if our republican colleagues of mitch mcconnell Going to join with us in that endeavor as well. That's part of the responsibility here. The put in place the responsible team the competent team. That's going to be able to make decisions to keep us safe going forward. So there's a lot at stake here and we wanna move forward and we we as democrats. No we have to work across the be by parsing gets things done but we also know that at this moment what was done here was an insurrection. There has to be accountability. There has to be justice in order for us to be able to really move on in a sincere way. Senator debbie seven out of michigan so much joining us tonight
Congresswoman tests positive for COVID-19 after Capitol attack
"Democratic congresswoman bonnie watson coleman seventy five year old cancer survivor who underwent chemotherapy. Three years ago said she had tested positive as experiencing mild state symptoms in a statement. Her office said quote. She believes she was exposed during protective isolation in the us capitol building as a result of the insurrectionist
Democrats take control of US Senate
"Forgiven if you don't remember it now. But the week began with the revelation that trump had called georgia's secretary state and pressured him over an hour to just recalculate the presidential vote in his favor to find the votes. Just one more than the margin to flip the state and on tuesday we had the georgia senate runoff which resulted in the improbable. Victories by democrat. Jon ossoff n raphael warnock today. Republican produce actually conceded the closer those two races and congratulated also on his. The two wins in georgia. Mean that senator mitch. Mcconnell will lose his job as majority leader because the senate will be split fifty fifty an incoming president kamala harris will hold the tiebreaker. So that's a bummer. For mitch. now there's a pretty urging question given the possibility of a second impeachment trial and generally about the agenda for the biden administration confirming cabinet members as well of when warnock ossoff. We'll be seated. After all the point of impeaching. The president isn't just impeachment. Second time to get him out of office requires two thirds of the senate to vote to convict which is tall order. Dangle thinks they wouldn't even take it up but two democratic senators were certainly helped the cause georgia counties until january fifteenth. One week from today to certify the election results after that the sector state. Brad robbins burger has another week until the twenty second to certify statewide and then finally the two incoming democratic centers can be sworn it now robbins. Berger says he's aiming to have the certified by joe biden's inauguration on january twentieth. That's no short thing. No matter what happens. Democrats will not have the senate majority in the senate until after the inauguration because again the vice president holds a tiebreaker. For what it's worth. If mike pence somehow becomes president in the next days he gets to choose new. Vp that spot does not automatically go to nancy. Pelosi or anyone else now. House democrats are looking to vote on articles of impeachment next week. If they passed by majority they would then good senate remember. Trump's last senate impeachment. Trial lasted four weeks so it seems unlikely we would see a senate vote anyway before january twentieth. There is a twist here. Which is that trump could potentially still be. Impeached leaves office. There's some legal debate on that question. Impeachment conviction doesn't just remove a president could also bar him from holding office in the future. What duke reports. Democrats believe that possibility could senate republicans some of whom are eyeing a twenty twenty four bid themselves matter what happens. The reality is that as bad as the week has been for the country and it's been one of the worst i've seen. We lost another almost four thousand people to the coronavirus. Today it's also been a disastrous week for the republican party. The dust clears democrats are about to take full control. The government house senate presidency and they have their work cut out for them
Victims' families in Iraq furious over Trump's Blackwater pardons
"Second time. In today's donald trump has dropped a batch of pardons for people mostly comprised of his political cronies and allies among the partners. That were last night. We're four blackwater contractors Former service members who opened fire on unarmed iraqi civilians in this source square into thousand seven at least fourteen people were killed. Seventeen wounded took years to bring those shooters to justice. Three of them were sentenced to thirty years in prison one of them. The sniper who first opened fire was given life without parole now. All four of them have been fully pardoned by president. Donald trump. paul dickenson is a lawyer. Represented the families of several victims in the two thousand seventy source square massacre in civilization. And paul dickson joins me now. I'm paul thank you so much for making time. I wonder if we can just start with your description of what happened in this source square back in two thousand seven and and what it did to the to the families that you represent. Thank you chris. What happened on that day was a traffic circle And traffic going through an ordinary day. Why client ali kanani and his family were an suv. Mohammed was driving through with other family members through the traffic circle. For armored vehicles. Tan-colored armored vehicles were entering. The traffic circle held up their hands and on a stop sign to have the traffic stop muhammed. Who was ali's father thought. Nothing of it because it's frequent especially this close to the green zone where they were the tower. You say there is a blocked from the entrance to the greens on Thought that someone important with either leaving or entering the green zone He looked to his right. Saw the person that's in one of the white vehicles in this video. Say that somebody in rome had just been shot at about that time. Bullets started to rain down his suv. He ducks for cover. Hold his sister. Who's sitting in the front seat down. Ali his son and his two cousins or in the backseat as the bullets rained on muhammed peaks. Up trying to see what's going on sees victims being shot killed machine go viral. All over is if ub as riddled with bullets As soon as it started at stopped He thought everybody was ok. That they had lived through a miracle When one of the cousins in the backseat said that ali was her Mohammed got out of the car opened. The door went to the back seat. Saw blood on the inside of the window and ali slumped over against the glass. He opened the door. And this is a bit graphic but what happened was ali slump towards muhammad is. Skull was open. Portion of his brain fell out onto the pavement in its sort square in fact. There's an image of that in that video that you were showing which i presume that you are not showing on tv. Mohammed cold pushed his son back in. The car turned his vehicle around On flat tires and a shutout windshield and drove to a hospital with only a few blocks behind them behind the source square when they arrive. Ali was doing everything he could for his son but knew that he probably had a fatal injury. Ali was still alive at the hospital. He had doctors look at ali He wanted to get treatment for his son. They told him they could not treat ended. The hospital was like a war zone. There were people in the hallways pickup trucks were bit bringing victims into the hospital. They had an ambulance dispatch for muhammed and ali to neurologic hospital across town. They had to actually go back through new source square to get there during the ride ali convulsed as muhammad held his hand and he died. I was contacted to represent them and others in a civil lawsuit against blackwater Eric prints and other of the people that were convicted of these murders and manslaughter charges. We proceeded with a civil lawsuit in north carolina against blackwater in the men. The shooter's that case was removed from state court to federal court. We fought to have it back and say it was in a court of appeal. The four circuit court of appeals in richmond virginia And we eventually resolved the case favorably for all parties without the necessity of trial. And i represent him a kanani family and several others.
Biden warns "darkest days" of pandemic are still ahead
"Joe biden giving address today where he talked about. He talked about crony virus and about this sort of transition stressing that we have the darkest days ahead of us. We lost thirty. One hundred americans just today. What is the biden. World's understanding of what they're going to inherit in this very complex logistical undertake a little bit of resetting expectations there. Chris and that's because according to the biden advisers that i've spoken with. They know that we don't have our plan together. Starting with the fact that we don't have enough supply. This is despite the fact that we are actively in negotiations. We meeting the trump administration with phaser for another one hundred million doses. Maybe they can get seventy million out of it even under the most optimistic scenario chris. The bottom line is other countries. Got in line ahead of us and that's not going to be enough to get us to herd immunity by july one. Which is the goal. That's been set out. We've been made even rosier predictions saying that. You know we could do this. In the springtime so the biden administration has had the incoming biden administration has had a look under the hood. And what they tell me is that we're going to be at a critical crossroads in january no regardless of what happens with this pfizer purchase and that's because we have at least two additional vaccines the trial data coming in for that right around the time. That biden is inaugurated and at that point. We're going to have to make some decisions potentially on how to help these companies scale up. This is where i'm told. The incoming biden administration is looking at this defense production act. Which is the korean war. Era law that would allow them to basically command certain industries to produce things in the national interest. There's many different ways. They could use it chris. All of it depends on how successful these other. Vaccines are johnson. Johnson's looking at one. That could be a one shot They're looking at lots of different things. Okay about how they could help these companies but they're they're nervous about it. A lot of it depends on what these companies come up with an and it's not going to be enough to underscore not going to be enough with this. Additional pfizer purchased to get us to hurt immunity. Which is so critical. Now with this new information coming out about the back the the the virus
Max Rose On Defeat in New York's 11th Congressional District
"Today a rare sequel. Which is the congressman from the eleventh district new york which is all of staten island and parts of brooklyn. A guy by the name of max rose. He was on our program before is he's got a fascinating story in history. You're a very very good race in two thousand eighteen and defeated a republican incumbent in that race and then lost this time around in a district. That was a difficult district. Everyone knew it would be a frontline district and so as with. Deb mukherjee powell. I thought rather than going to the pundits or looking at big aggregate polling data one of the best ways to find out what was happening on the ground in this election in various different places to go to people that ran those races. And so it's a great pleasure to have congressman. Max rose back in the program. How you doing I i should note Out the top that you've announced an exploratory committee to run for mayor. And i just want to sort of enter that evidence and put that to the side because we agreed to do this You know before that. That news was broken I think the new york mayoral race can be fascinating. And i think my last check. There's one hundred and seventy three candidates so your brother hasn't signed up for any of that true. Actually here her you right about that. We'll be a determining factor who wins. Well i'm sure he'll appreciate that. So so congressman. Tell me you know. let's let's go back. I just tell me a little bit about your district if if folks did not hear that first episode will you know where your district it's politics are like absolutely and pleased for the duration of this conversation and our whole going forward. Just call me max out your max as of january we just did maximum so you know although thanks for for for searing in so eleven. Congressional district comprising staten island in south brooklyn is the only traditionally republican conservative congressional district in new york city. And it's also a district on the highest rate of unionization in the country. Town of city workers state workers. Some federal workers alive retirees middle-class. But i definitely a district that i described as extraordinarily patriotic not republican or democrat though at the federal level has traditionally voted republican. That's the only district in the country that went for mccain in a way that obama in twelve trump and sixteen by more than the state of texas Twenty twenty voted for donald trump at an even higher marching than twenty sixteen Eleven points this time around. And i'll sure we'll get into the details of what actually went down. But it remains a district that i am a deeply fond of in place that i call home practical home and i'll continue to call. Actually what my wife and i closed on an apartment the day after day bottled blonde apartment. And i'm sitting there and signing the mortgage. I'm thinking you guys a what did you watch the news last night or did thankfully it went through. That would have been cold if the banker and the next day was like sorry. We were watching new york one and We're not sure revenue stream here. It would have been cold blooded but also quintessentially new york. Sorry for the l. But this ain't gonna go through. They have some confidence. It'll be able to find some gainful employment confidence do well. So so let's start on that. One thing that i think is is really interesting is just that there were districts that swung trump in two thousand sixteen. And then you know. The nation as a whole in the aggregate probably swung About two and two and a half points away from trump right Now there are some places like the joe. The atlanta suburbs. That swung way more than that. And there's You know there are some places that swung even more towards trump your district and particularly. Let's let sort of distinguish between the brooklyn part of the district. Which i'm gonna put aside and just talk about. Staten island even though your district is both but staten island is a really distinct part of new york city. And you're saying that that that's one towards trump and twenty sixteen and then even more towards trump in two twenty twenty. No that's not what happened to note that staten island voted for donald trump. By less out fascinating brooklyn swung extraordinarily towards donald trump. So it's it's really really important that we not try to say old slice of the electorate to the point where we are overlooking where trump voters are in actually all four the four boroughs beside staten island all shifted towards donald trump by five to twelve percentage points.
Michigan State House, Senate close over 'threats of violence' during Electoral College meeting
"Looked for a time earlier today. Like things could get ugly in michigan. The state closed its house and senate office buildings over what they said were credible threats of violence during today's electoral college meeting and then republican state representative gary isan suggested he and other republicans would disrupt the electoral college vote. He also predicted there. Would be violence prompting this. Can you assure me that this is going to be a safe day in in lansing. Nobody's gonna get hurt no. I don't know what we're doing. Today is chartered. Here's it been done after. Gary isan made those comments michigan. Republican legislative leaders pulled him from his committee assignments. Meanwhile the scene in lansing was thankfully ultimately cau- just a dozen or so pro-trump protesters showing up outside the capitol a chilly day and when he grow group of republican electors tried to enter that building michigan state. Police turn them away. Half of those call was much an often from holding or ignore taking part of your process. Anybody else thank ben check in inside the democratic electors about the people's business where they elected joe biden. Starting barnes. has the tally been completed. Yes lieutenant governor. The elected unanimously cast. Sixteen votes for joseph r biden. I'm joined now by michigan's democratic secretary of state johnson benson earlier. This month had her home surrounded by angry trump supporters. Some of them harmed who falsely accused her of allowing the election to be stolen. But start secretary of state with your your top line on. Today i was. I was a bit worried when i saw the news about closing the house and the senate but it seemed like things went smoothly. How do you feel went today. I think it was a great day for democracy. Chris was really a reflection of all the work that went into this election to ensure that we were able to have a high turnout election In the midst of the pandemic all the work that's happened. Since the polls closed on november third to ensure the votes were counted accurately it securely and really this was the the end result of a long and winding road that every step of the way we work to make sure that the voters well was heard and democracy was protected. We have seen now. Obviously there were arrests of a number of individuals who have been charged with allegedly plotting the kidnapping or execution of the democratic governor. Gretchen whitmer You had people outside of your house Some of them armed a protesting. There were concerned today in arizona. As i understand it where the leading of the electors was moved to an undisclosed location. What does it do to democratic governance and democracy when this sort of threat of violence hangs over the activities of folks. What you know. I started my career in the south investigating and hate crimes all around the country and was really instilled there with the strong sense in an acute awareness of just how much oftentimes does have to be preserved in the potential for violence that that could engender to ensure that democracy does prevail. And so that's never been lost on me and many of us including my friends secretary hobson in arizona. And it's something that we're actually acutely aware rows and willing to with to endure in order to ensure that our democracy is protected. A lot of people have said to me this year. Did you really sign up for this and my response is absolutely. I absolutely signed up to put everything on the line to protect the will of the people to protect our democracy. None of us of course predicted all of the turns of events that have occurred since the polls closed But that said we're ready and will continue to be ready. We'll continue to stay safe to ensure that our democracy and turn is also safe. Something i've seen a in many states across the nation in reaction is a real circular logic from republicans in which after touting or tolerating or even endorsing these blue to chris conspiracy theories now pointing and saying well people. Are you know. There's a lot of concern and using that as a predicate for restrictions on voting. Well we're gonna have to shutdown mail in voting. Well we're gonna have to take another look at this. Well we're gonna have to do voter. Id and signature matching all these things. How much you seen that michigan. Do you think there's going to be a battle now about ballot access. The uses these conspiracies as a kind of weaponized tool. Yeah sure it again. That's also what we've seen. Throughout the history of our democracy people create a fire and then create an idea of what needs to put that fire out and often times. Election administrators are stuck in the middle and that voters are are stuck in the middle. When i believe needs to happen is we need to one come together and actually listen to each other and try to heal this. Divide right now but to do so. On the basis of facts and data and truth we all have to be working from the same set of facts here. Facts and truth have actually been unequivocal undeniable throughout this entire process. We had a high turnout election michigan. Five point five million people voted in the midst of the pandemic. It was secure. The results were accurate. So we can start from there. We can find ways to improve the process moving forward making data driven decisions but we also have to do is acknowledge the impact of the conspiracy theories in false information that has been spread by many actors throughout this process and correct that before trying to solve for any potential issues. Moving forward right michigan secretary of state jocelyn benson. Thank you so much for being with me.
White House coronavirus task force addresses public for first time in months
"White house. Coronavirus task force appeared before the american people today for the first time since july over four months ago in that time we have lost. Nearly one hundred twenty thousand people did. He was also the first time since june that we saw dr rao behind the podium with the task force is he briefed the nation about what he called extraordinarily impressive results from the pfizer and moderna vaccine trials vice president mike pence of the task force painted a fairly rosy picture saying he thinks we will soon be putting the coronavirus in the past right before. Dr deborah burke showed this slide that blue arrow demonstrating the dramatic spike in cases. Where you're seeing across the country right now. The death toll in the united states is now over. A quarter of a million two hundred and fifty thousand lives lost today states recorded records in cases. One hundred eighty thousand new cases just today eighty one thousand people in the hospital just tonight a record and there were one thousand nine hundred seventy one almost two thousand deaths day. That's the highest since may seventh and look at where those lines are all going. Where do you think that's going to end up with thanksgiving just one week away. The centers for disease control recommended today. Americans not travel for the holiday. Strangely the word thanksgiving did not come up even once in the nearly hour. Long tasks worse briefing. Although the members the task force did seem pretty unrestrained like they were finally free to speak about the reality the dire and horrific reality in this country as we head into this worst winter relies.
States are imposing more COVID restrictions despite pre-election predictions
"You know from the beginning of this pandemic all the way back in in january and february has been painfully clear that for donald trump and most of the congressional republican leadership that cova was primarily a political problem. That had to be managed because of the election not a health problem. A political problem with is on november and one of the biggest giveaways of their possession of their position is what they projected onto their political opponents. They couldn't believe that the steps that some governors mayors we're taking a combat. The virus were driven by serious concerns. That cova was deadly and needed to be combated. Instead they suggested it was awesome elaborate conspiracy to politically kneecap donald trump. If it ends up that biden wins in november. I hope he does. And i don't think he will. But if he does. I guarantee you the week after the election. Suddenly all those democratic governors all those democratic mayors will say. Everything's magically better. go back to work. Go back to school. Suddenly the problems are solved. Won't even have to wait for biden to be sworn in i guarantee you. That's ted cruz guarantee a week after the election. I guarantee you that all those democratic governors and mayors will say the problem solved no more cova restrictions. They'll take them all away. It was all just to her trump. Well guess what the election's over and what's happening in the opposite of what ted cruz cruz. Guaranteed in fact democratic. Governors like gretchen whitmer of michigan and kate brown of oregon who impose restrictions early in the pandemic have now imposed new restrictions amid covid spikes in their states. That's not all republicans who are abandoning their pre election positions. They're the ones who were doing that. And embracing public. Health measures governor gary herbert of doug burgum. North dakota are now changing their tune. There embracing masks after months of resistance. And then there's i will republican governor kim reynolds who vowed back in july quote. No i'm not going to mandate masks. I trust islands. Reynolds was photographed maskless at an indoor pro-trump event in october. That's her giving a high five in a crowded mostly maskless room and not only did she not object to trump holding one of his superspreader rallies. Interstate a few days later. She was spotted in the crowd at the rally. Not wearing a mask. Well now guess what i was. Hospitals are full across the state. There's barely an icu. Bed to be found if you get kobe tomorrow and you have to go the issue. Tough luck it's a nightmare and last governor can reynold who wants to spanish mass mandate. Does he feel good measure. Guess what she did she issued a statewide mask mandate along whether restrictions. It's a good thing too much too late. But it's the opposite of what ted cruz said would happen. Who is really playing politics. Do you think as hospitals fill up at americans conservative liberal being cut down by the virus there are still republicans who are treating. The pandemic with the same recklessness and denial they always have
Michigan governor Gretchen Whitmer responds to Trump’s taunts
"You wrote about being targeted and obviously there is there's a sort of few layers. This is you've been sort of. Targeted national right wing media. You've been a target of the President and obviously it appears allegedly a target of this kidnapping plot and one thing we've seen it was in the president turns rhetorical firearm people whether that's Lesley Stahl Anthony Fauci they end up needing twenty four hour security the end up having threats what is it been like? To be on the receiving end of that. Well, it's been hard Chris. I mean, I don't have a whole lot of time to stop and process it or feel sorry for myself. I've got a job to do and I'm going to keep doing my job but starting in April, when the president singled me out and called me that woman from Michigan and tweeted liberate Michigan every time focuses on my state or On me, we see the violent rhetoric increase. We see the threats online increase I have had to have a Lotta serious hard conversations with my children when there are people with a are fifteen out on our front lawn and this, these are people who are looking for any leader to give them some credibility and some some comfort in some encouragement and when Donald Trump won't. Denounce them in the middle of a presidential debate. That's the kind of encouragement basie when Donald Trump says things like lock them all up. That's the kind of encouragement and it's dangerous. It's anti-american. We settle our differences at the ballot box, and if we don't like the results get organized and get ready for the next election, we have peaceful transition of power we put. Our democracy before our Party we put our country before ourselves. That is not how this administration operates and that's why I think this choice to elect an incredibly decent experienced empathetic said of people like Joe Biden Camel. Harris is where where I believe our country is headed because we are sick and tired of being sick and tired and worrying about our lives in our livelihood. Governor from Whitmer of the State of Michigan thank you so much for making time with us.
Trump supporters hospitalized after being stranded in freezing cold at late-night rally
"Trump had an outdoor rally, an airfield in Omaha Nebraska. This is pretty common for the campaign right now, he can roll up in his Air Force One and it was pretty darn cold. As you can tell from the pictures, wind chill as low as seven degrees is supporters had to bundle up and when the rally finished trump got on his plane and flew away. This was around nine PM local time and I'm sure it was not as warm and comfy Air Force One when the rally voters tried to leave the airfield on buses that would take them back to their cars, which in the time of covert is a terrible idea bunch of people crowded together on a bus. But that aside when trump supporters tried to leave the shuttle buses got jammed up many people tried to walk a few miles in. The freezing cold back to their cars others were just stranded out in the elements for hours until they could get on a bus. The last person didn't leave until nearly midnight three hours after President got on his plane Jeff Paul Fox News posted this video, the scene that's that's shivering people many of them elderly stuck outside in the cold in the midst of pandemic. Some of them had gotten the rally as early as ten in the morning. And the trump campaign blamed road closures. But I mean well seems like you should take care of your people can't let that happen. Look at this tweet from an account that monitoring police scanners in Omaha quote one officer advising eight to nine elderly people who are struggling separate officer advising they have located an elderly party who is frozen cold unable to move with an altered mental status. The Omaha Police Department said there were thirty people contacted for medical reasons and a total of seven people transported to area hospitals with a variety of medical conditions. Meanwhile the president just gone away in his nice warm publicly funded private plane leaving people behind.
Hundreds of parents separated from kids at the border remain "unreachable"
"It was one of the early horrors of the trump administration and the horror continues to this day tonight, NBC News reports that lawyers for over five hundred migrant children separated from their families by the trump administration still cannot locate their parents. JACOB SOBER SOBER OFF ON THE JAW-DROPPING headline next. Two and a half years after the trump administration launched an official policy to separate migrant children from their parents, and after the ordered them to reunite those families hundreds of kids are still without their parents and those parents cannot be found. NBC News reports that lawyers appointed to a federal by federal judge to identify migrant families who are separated by the trump administration. Say they've yet to track down the parents of five hundred, forty five children that are approximately two thirds of those parents were deported to Central America without their children leaving the families separated possibly permanently. The top reporters on this story exactly what the trump administration did to migrant families in his book separated inside an American tragedy is MSNBC ABC News correspondent Jacob Sober off and he joins me now. Jacob the Group of children here at issue are group of children, take them their parents in the very beginning of the trump administration administering this policy explain who they are and how this group is different than the later group. Precisely Chris, this group of one, thousand, five, hundred, fifty, six children identified by NGOs, the trump administration, and the ACLU. That group has been winnow to about eleven hundred and that eleven hundred, five, hundred, and forty five parents are still effectively unreachable as what the groups refer to them as that are searching for them on the ground and when I say searching literally searching door to door in some cases for parents because the contact information that was provided was faulty. This group of children was separated even before the policy that came to be. Known Zero Tolerance was ever in place during the El Paso so-called pilot program in two, thousand, seventeen and other places along the southwest border that time as well. Yeah. This is this was them experimenting with? This is a policy in thousand seventeen before they sort of made it a systemic policy that created the backlash. So this was all happening much more under the radar in terms of press what what do we know about what we're these kids are like who is looking after them now they've now been in US custody for three years. Yeah, and it's it's unbelievable. I actually talked to an eight year old boy from Honduras who's living in northern California with his aunt and uncle just last night expecting this news to be filed in court today. The father is still in Honduras and he's trying to get back to the United States, it's an almost insurmountable. Huddle. Of this agreement that was made between the. And the federal government. Just want to reiterate I mean what these children went through has now categorized as government sanctioned child abuse by the American Academy of Pediatrics as torture by Physicians for Human Rights, and it was perpetrated by the trump administration political officials after they were warned by career people in hhs in. In the Department of Justice was reported just a couple of weeks ago that this policy was going to have the exact consequences that we're talking about right now the recordkeeping wasn't there. They wouldn't be able to track these families down and here we are, as you said, almost three years later with trauma compounded if you talk to child healthcare professionals probably on a daily. Basis for these children in terms of reuniting these families, which is the ultimate goal here. It sounds like there's a few obstacles. One is is finding the parents the other just that I understand that you're saying that even if they found that they're located then being able to come back to the United States to take their child is harder than it appears that right? Particularly for parents who were deported without their children in the original class, there were four hundred or so there were deported without their children and I think twenty nine were brought back to the United States. In this expanded class I think that there's a number that's basically equivalent to that at this point, and that's because of a narrow definition of what can be considered for reunification to the terms of the settlement agreement and at at the end of the day I mean. It's almost inexplicable that the government would be able to do. This would be able to take parents and children from one another and out of eleven hundred. At this point, we're only talking about a handful or two and the other thing I should point out is Chris. Some of the parents have opted to leave their children with family members in the United. States instead of deport them if the government is saying to them, sorry, we're not going to bring you back to the United States, but that isn't their choice
Supreme Court allows Pennsylvania mail-in ballots to be counted after Election Day
"Last night the show we told you about how Democrats were celebrating the Supreme Court decision not to block a ruling by the Pennsylvania State Supreme. Court. Decision that would allow absentee ballots to be counted in that state even if they arrive up to three days after election. Tonight some experts are warning that if you look closely, there's a reason to worry about what four of the conservative justices on the spring quarter up to. So there were four who did want to take up the case they wanted to take up the challenge. They did not explain why they did. There was opinion issued but boxes millhauser points out quote in their briefs. The GOP hones in on the word legislator arguing that only Pennsylvania state legislature may set the state's rules for choosing presidential electors not the state Supreme Court. Okay so they're saying look don't listen to our state Supreme Court Supreme Court of the United States you guys can overrule them, and if the descending justices were considering accepting that argument, then they're basically toying with the idea that federal courts can just step in and tell states how to interpret their own laws, their own state constitutions plus it's not clear. We've heard the end of this particular case millhauser points out quote. The GOP may be able to raise this issue again after Amy Coney Berties confirmed potentially securing court order requiring states like Pennsylvania to toss out an unknown number of ballots that arrive after election day the election is closed that could be enough to change the result. Those four conservative justices basically laid out an invitation to come back and challenge those ballots when the court is even more favorable to Republicans than it is now when they have a five four majority. One of the people who who filed the supreme. Court on behalf of Pennsylvania is State's Attorney General Josh. Shapiro and he joins me now. All right. This is. The actual federal civil procedure questions here are actually so complicated and I don't think I. Did a great job explaining just now to be honest as I read it. So let's let's just sort of set it up. You have a state constitution in Pennsylvania guarantees people right to vote. Correct. Correct. And There was a lawsuit that said look. The current rules for counting absentee ballots, which which would not count ones that were mailed in good faith and sent before the election day and happened to come in a few days after that's denying people their right to vote and the supreme. Court said of your state said, that's correct under Pennsylvania State Constitution, we have to count those votes is that correct? Yeah that's exactly right. I mean look. Boil this down. This is a matter of state law. There was interpreted by the highest court in our state, our state Supreme Court, and our State Supreme Court said very clearly that you know basically when in doubt err on the side of inclusion or in franchise -ment. Unfortunately, what you have are repeated attacks against our election laws here in Pennsylvania by Donald, trump in his enablers trying to make it harder for people to vote trying to make it easier for ballads to be discarded, and so I've been in court time and time again, defending the right for legal eligible votes to be counted and to make sure the Pennsylvanians can be heard I think Donald Trump is afraid of candidly is having all legal eligible votes in Pennsylvania County because. I think he'll come out on the short end of that stick at the ballot box just as he has in the courthouses where we've beat him, he's over threes got a big fat over on his record and I. Think if he continues down this track here, you know really late in the fourth quarter to try and make it harder for people to vote he'll continue to lose in court. So you this appeal, right? So the State Supreme Court says look yes but. The State Constitution Pennsylvania. Says we we want people to vote for right to vote. We're going to try to interpret this in a way that maximizes legitimate votes you beginning counted not thrown on technicalities. The Republican Party of your state doesn't like this opinion that and appeal it and they asked the Supreme Court to step in and blocked that ruling. And it looks like four conservative justices were interested in hearing that argument. Does that were you all? Well. It does in the sense that it kind of flies in the face of of something going to nerd out on you here for a second flies in the face of something known as the pursell doctrine which ineffective says that federal courts should exercise extreme caution. Before interfering with state election law and that extreme caution gets even more extreme. The closer you get to an election we're not only fourteen days away from election day. We're already voting here in Pennsylvania more than a million Pennsylvanians have already voted. So the idea that the Supreme Court of the United States would step on step in on what is clearly. A state constitutional law question interpreting state law is a bit troublesome. Nevertheless, they didn't muster the votes necessary to stop or block Pennsylvania election law,
How Trump's signature issues are backfiring with the voters he needs to win
"Are officially two weeks from the end of voting and the twenty twenty election. We don't say election to anymore because voters across the country are already mailing ballots and heading to the polls today was the first day of. Early voting in the battleground state of Wisconsin you can tell from the footage it was chilly, and yet we saw long lines at busy polling places. We're also just forty eight hours from the final big set piece event of the campaign. The last presidential debate which will go on with the rule change. The candidates microphones will be muted while their opponent gives an initial two minute answer to each topic. Of course, they made that necessary change because the president is so compulsively antisocial that he cannot abide by just the normal give and take of conversation and debate the debate. This Thursday is hugely important for president trump because when you're far down the polls as he appears to be a chance to change the trajectory. That said it is also, of course, serious risk because we saw what happened last time. I'm not here to call out his lies everybody knows he's a liar but you I. I want to make sure. I. I WanNa make your accident. Can you let them finish her now? He doesn't know how to do that T- as. You pick. It. Be Surprised. By the wrong night at the wrong times and you agreed with Sanders. Valid is no manifesto. Mr Number two just lost the left number two. You just lost the left. You agreed with Bernie Sanders on a plan. If -solutely. Forgotten. How horrible that was my God. I put it out. My Mary. Well, that did not go over. Well, not only pulling immediately show the president lost the debate. If you look at, say the five thirty polling average that first debate on September twenty ninth and trump's coronavirus diagnosis, which, of course happened just a few days. Later they're kind of an inflection point after which he loses three more points. But here's the craziest thing during the turning the debate into this unwatchable cringe inducing boorish display actually arguably helped donald trump because keeping the focus on how just outrageously unlikable the president is is better than focusing on his actual policy positions as compared to Joe. Biden because he is even further behind on the issues. I, mean keep in mind. This is a very divided country right now we know that we know that polarization pretty much rules everything around us, and so a lot of the time when you ask voters about any specific issue, the results basically converge on whether or not you like Donald Trump right? And that is why this new pulling out today from New York, times colleges so striking. They asked voters about a whole bunch of issues. Some that are major news stories right now like for instance, another covert rescue package on that the polling shows an incredible national consensus in favor of a new two trillion dollar stimulus. Now, that comes as we learned today that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell told the White House not to agree we deal was speaker Nancy Pelosi out the election because he's concerned about dividing his Republican conference. Voters overwhelmingly support a mask mandate fifty, nine to thirty, nine percent after watching the president who of course discounted the masks for months and made fun of people wore them fall ill with the corona virus and spend three days in the hospital. The Obama Administration, signature, legislative achievement, the affordable care act, which, of course. Trump back. Lawsuit is attempting to destroy right now in the Spring Gordon arguments week after election day that also comes out ahead of fifty five to forty. As does Joe Biden's current platform his plan to add a public health insurance option it would auto enroll people into it if they didn't have insurance and that has a whopping sixty, seven percent of voter support again. Twenty, five percent oppose those are big big spreads then. There are the issues that are less front of mine right now or at least getting less covers the climate crisis, for example. It's not exactly the top issue among national political talkers. The moment were really either the campaigns, and that's somewhat understandable the pandemic and the resulting economic devastation and yet. When you ask voters if they think a Biden administration should invest two trillion dollars in clean energy and other ways to help reduce the effects of climate change and reduce carbon emissions by a margin of forty points. They see s forty points on these signature tent pole. Climate Plan of the behind campaign in a country polarized is remarkable. Remember in the past debates, it was very clear that both trump and pence thought that fracking was going to be one of their best issues. It was like their their secret weapon I mean they were just talking of love fracking Americans love fracking. Let's FRAC every last Frankel Incheon this fracking country and it even put Joe Biden Kamla Harrison the defensive promising over and over that they book well, we don't have a thing with we're not gonna Ban fracking everyone knows fracking obviously track. Well, when it comes down to it, it's not even true. It's a wash. Voters are evenly split on one of the trump campaign's best issues thing they think is their wedge. No the fracking debate is actually largely about one crucial state Pennsylvania, where natural gases they may traders she but guess what a majority of registered voters in Pennsylvania oppose fracking according to CBS new Newspoll over the summer. So Donald Trump's ongoing negligent malignant incompetent managing the pandemic the disastrous conditions that the country eight million people fall into poverty and trump's personal odious nece are obviously the big things driving much of this campaign.
Christie Says He Was 'Wrong' Not to Wear Masks
"New Jersey. Governor Chris Christie who had a very serious case of corona virus and was in intensive care for seven days after attending several maskell events of president trump came out today to say I was wrong wearing masks within twenty four hours I went from feeling absolutely fine to being in the. Intensive Care Unit it was a mistake I. I was led to believe that you know all the people that I was interacting with at the White House had been tested in a gave you a false sense of security and it was a mistake There was a false sense of security at the White House that was a mistake that led to people getting sick and being hospitalized and coming within interested in his life. Let's be clear. Christie's saying these basic truths is essentially a repudiation of Donald trump because that's in fact I noticed this. I. Don't know if you did it was incredibly creepy and bizarre and heartless that weren't presents most loyal advisers right? Who almost definitely got Kobe from the president someone close to him because he was advising him on the debate was incommunicado in hospital for a week, and as far as I could tell, not one person in the White House said a single thing publicly about him. Because to do so to talk about the close of the president who is in the ICU would be acknowledged series of the virus and to acknowledge the series virus is to insult dear leader Donald Trump. Now electoral fortunes look more and more dismal. We were watching some Republican officials start to create some distance between themselves and the president, but it is way way way too late for that they have all brought this moment about together and it is hard to come to any other conclusion that the deaths of tens of thousands of Americans are on their hands.
North Carolina voters unmoved by Dem Senate hopeful’s sex scandal
"Weeks from today Americans will not just decide who they want the White House, but the balance of power the Senate as well On. Congressional races in down ballot races in the US Senate thirty-five seats up this year twenty three held by Republicans, Twelve Democrats, and pulling analysis site fivethirtyeight. Now, project Democrats are slightly favored to take over that chamber, but it's close we've been falling day by day and expanding battleground map of states that now have genuinely competitive Senate races one of those races where the pulling seem pretty good for Democrats early on with North Carolina. That's where incumbent Republican Senator Thom Tillis is facing a challenge from former state senator and. Iraq and Afghanistan war veteran cal Cunningham and back in the beginning of September cutting performing pretty well point ahead of us in the monmouth university poll which left a lot of people thinking wow, this could happen. Could this be a democratic Senate pickup and then a week and a half ago that also seemed to be up ended on October Second Tillis his campaign confirmed the senator tested positive for corona virus, and later that very same day text messages surfaced between cal Cunningham and a woman who is not his wife. After about a week of pretty brutal extramarital relationship accusations started look like I don't know maybe Democrats were counting their chickens a little too early in the north. Carolina Senate race but that new bullying came out and guess what the whole thing seems to have helped. Cal. Cunningham. In a Monmouth University poll just released today cutting lead over Senator Thom Tillis is actually expanded. He's now by four points whereas he was only by one September.
"chris hayes" Discussed on All In with Chris Hayes
"On all end president polls, campaign ads and hitches his prospects on destroying the integrity of the election. Tonight what states are doing to stop trump assault on democracy then the insanity of Republicans leading the covert rescue laps with Senator Sherrod Brown plus stark admission from Dr. Vouch. E on the failure of the federal response to grow in a virus and a shocking new report on how the White House ditch their own cova testing plan because the affected states vote for Democrats when all in starts right now. Good evening from New York I'm Chris Hayes of all the crazy things happening right now there are a lot. The craziest might be something that is not happening. There's no one on the floor of the United States Senate. There's no in their offices they're not on Capitol Hill. If all gone home for the weekend, in fact, they went home yesterday congress is in recess right now the very day that six hundred dollars a week of unemployment insurance bonuses for tens of millions of people has expired. It's done as of today. It's a shocking and disgusting slap in the face from the Republican Senate leadership to struggling Americans the Democratic House has already passed a bill to re re up at. But also think about how insane this is politically. There's an election less than one hundred days. You might have noticed the Republican Party currently has a majority in the Senate it's defending a bunch of intensely contested seats. There's a sitting Republican president probably heard that too he's up for reelection. The country is in a once in a century catastrophe. The Gross Domestic Product is down nearly a record ten percent in just one quarter just look at bat chart. That's where we are there tens of millions of people unemployed more than one hundred and fifty three thousand Americans are dead for a pandemic that is raging across the country. And the CDC is now forecasting the total American death toll could hit one hundred and eighty, two, thousand by August twenty second. In about three weeks. Opening in person instruction up and down the country restaurants are going out of business, right and let baseball can barely function. All of American life is torn asunder. We are drowning here folks and Senate Republicans are just like peace, Summer Fridays. You know how we do. Reveals a deep truth about the Republican Party right now. But a governing level they have no answers for the catastrophe political level. They are acting like a party that understands they are about to get creamed. It's an accident that half the Republican Senate Caucus is rebelling against doing anything some of those prominent opponents or people who clearly have their eyes on the future people senators Ben Sasse, Josh Holly, and Ted Cruz. People were very clearly already pivoting to be the tough austerity opposition in a future democratic presidency after their own party basically destroyed the country. You have the CO founder of the conservative federalist, society. The group that has essentially hand-picked the president's. Chew Supreme, court nominees, and all his appellate nominees and all the judges he's confirmed. A man who rose the defensive trump amidst the motor investigation calling trump's latest outrageous tweet about postponing the election fish cystic his words, and impeachable. Now. Maybe he just was really offended by that tweet by by what it meant or maybe he's cashing in his chips having already won the conservative judges that he wanted. You former Reagan speechwriter Peggy Noonan writing the Republican Party has to be rebuilt. You the President and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. Knifing each other publicly today I don't think people quite realize what happened on this, but McConnell has said from the beginning and this is itself nuts. That he's number one priority amidst the pandemic, that's now killing an American every minute is to make sure the bosses can make you go back to work and then you can't sue them. Okay. So liability protection. That's what Mitch McConnell cares about Donald Trump who actually has a better sense of what is politically popular the Mitch McConnell basically had his spokesperson say say we don't care about liability protection we just want to get the money out the door And that's because of course, they understand the reelection depends on. Republicans are losing the generic ballot by eight points. Trump approval rating is at forty percent. He's looting in head to heads with Joe Biden by eight points. Right now, he is losing all the swing states. They're behind in Senate races according to the polling in Maine in Colorado way behind in Arizona, they're competitive in a bunch of states they should not be or people didn't anticipate North Carolina and those are real races. Political reports Republicans are worried about losing even more seats in the house. Which is hard to do at this point because they're pared down to basically the bare minimum after two, thousand, eighteen, the one thing the Republican Party could do to turn it. All around would be competently govern the country and to get a handle on the panic, but they cannot do that. and. So this point, Donald Trump is just getting up and knocking over the chess. Board. You know his campaign suspended their AD spending less than one hundred days before the election. They slow down there. August. Ad By an election year with a record setting amount of money sitting the bank with referred to as the death. Star. And I think the reason they got some negative press. They've reversed himself to the reason I think is right now. The new plan basically happening right in front of is, is to undermine the election itself. Increasingly. It's clear that that's going to be the sum total of trump's campaign. To use the tools of the federal government to sabotage and disrupt the administration free and Fair Elections Ascend Federal Forces in the swing states to create viral content to slow down the mail from the post office when people are afraid to vote in person and then to undermine legitimacy of mail in ballots. All, the president's mail in ballot focused and it's not just the president. It's the RNC IT Stephen Miller. It's people coming to his defense. If you want trump TV, it's not a temper Tantrum it's a concerted strategy. They, WanNa make it harder to vote in the midst of a pandemic. They wanted to be the case that there people vote in person and the other people vote by mail. And then they can just kind of try to get rid of the mail in ballots. It's pretty clear. One Way to do that is to slow down the mail in general, which is what they are already doing right in front of our eyes. Here's a headline watching post- postal service backlog sparks worries that ballot delivery could be delayed November. We've been covering this story night after night and I've been getting dozens of emails from people work in the post office who are customers who worked in before about the male slowing down about how weird it is to be told to leave mail. And is the Washington Post Greg. Sargent reported today in all these Swing States Arizona Florida Wisconsin Pennsylvania, and Michigan Ohio and Georgia. It is not a question of when you mail your ballot right the postmark. It's question when it's received. The male is too slow so it doesn't get their by election day well..
"chris hayes" Discussed on All In with Chris Hayes
"And we should know that your point. There is so crucial. mean a huge part of. The conversation about this on my podcast. We talked about this before. About like what are colleges or colleges for right? What do they sell people what they provide? They provide an education. They've provided credential. Nip provide experience among other things and part of this is just saying look like the experience a big part of it. It's y parents like scrimp and save the. They send their kids away to have this experience, but if we're saying, look the experience itself, which is like kids hanging out in each other's dorm rooms, and going to parties and being in late at night at the student theater that itself is on safe. You can't have experience. We just got to take that away and it's not like they're. You know they're not like they're five or six year olds. Where there's a sort of you can't really do zoom schooling with kindergartners. You can do it with with. Students Age. There shouldn't be a workable way to do it. Well, there is a workable way to do it. There's a workable way to do it for students and for citizens. There is not a workable way to do it for customers. That's where we find ourselves with thirty years of conditioning people to think of higher education as any other consumer good. To think of students and families as customers, we now have to pay the Piper customer wants a certain experience. While customers are not the white sort of framework to think about the moment that we're in a global health, pandemic is larger than a customer. A global health pandemic requires.
"chris hayes" Discussed on All In with Chris Hayes
"You are not allowed to be oppressive. You're not born in this country. He may not have been born in this country and I'll tell you what three weeks ago. I thought he was born in this country right now I have some real doubts. Began his modern political career birtherism, the racist conspiracy theory that Barack Obama was not on the United States the untrue racist conspiracy theory. Then he pivoted from that to challenging president. Obama's records is a college student. I don't know if you remember this chapter. Put Back in two thousand twelve. It was so bizarre. Trump even offered to make a five million dollar dollar charitable donation, as if if Obama released his college records and applications like who cares. This is what now president trump bills. His entire political career on got him. What's got him to this point? The one thing we do not need a book to tell us about the president. Is that everything? He does projection. So perhaps it is not surprising that one of the details in the new tell all book by his niece Mary Trump titled Too Much never enough how my family created. The world's most dangerous. Is that. The president embraced cheating as a way of life, and that included cheating his way into college, quoting from the book, aware of the Wharton School's Reputation Donald set his sights on the University of Pennsylvania to hedge his bets. He enlisted Joe Shapiro. A smart kid with a reputation for being a good test taker to take his sat's him I was much easier to pull off in the days before photo ideas and computerized records Donald never lacked funds paid his buddy well. Trump family, try to stop the publication of the tell without success now the publisher Simon and Schuster citing high demand, extraordinary interests that the book will come out next Tuesday two weeks ahead of schedule. The president's niece was doctoral degree in clinical psychology has written a book. That is kind of a classic. Trump genre. It's shocking, but not surprising and a counter, perhaps the most obviously damaged human being in public life to talk more about this I'm joined by someone who read through an advance copy of the book. Lynn Sweet Washington bureau chief at the Chicago sun-times. Lynn, someone who has who has digested as much as possible. What is your takeaway when you're talking about someone who's who's pathologies and insecurities are so obvious every second that you're watching him. Well here here's the thing Kristie, the tank way is this is a family member who observed a trump from the start here, so you don't have anyone who is unfamiliar with with the story, and that's why I think that the war in episode is so telling, because people who follow trump even kinda slightly since he's become president now that he constantly refers to going to Warren as some testimony to is. What is telegenic, his suitability for office or something like that and most adults? No matter where you went to school. As proud is, you might be just don't constantly..
"chris hayes" Discussed on All In with Chris Hayes
"Evening from New York I'm Chris Hayes today. George Floyd was laid to rest in his hometown of Houston as the protest sparked by his killing, continuing small towns and big cities across America undeterred, in fact, even invigorated by President who has set himself in opposition to the protesters. The conditions in this country in so many ways have changed so much in the past couple of weeks over the past months is almost impossible for US covering it day in day out watching the news and the headlines to fully conceive of where things stand. How much the world in this country changed, those changes have proven to be task strange paradoxical nature of Donald Trump's political strength. His ability to hold tightly do is. Despite repeatedly saying and doing terrible things that would sink virtually any other politician. Back in two thousand sixteen trump infamously said you'll recall could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot. Somebody would not lose any voters. He said it sort of surprised bemused. It turns out that ushering the worst cataclysm in the nation in a century guiding the economy and recession and standing in opposition to majority of Americans support the protests and say police need to change well. It turns out that all does have an effect. Day by day more data accrues to show how politically wiki is. How politically imperilled and how much the actual crises of the country are overwhelming his ability to distract Americans and manipulate the media. fivethirtyeight polling average on April. I had trump your forty six percent approval for the past ten weeks. He's seen that approval rating steadily erode dropping nearly five points down to forty one percent. That may not look like a lot, but keep in mind. This is someone who polling has been remarkably stable. Also the poll suggests Donald. Trump would be absolutely crushed by Joseph Biden if the election were held today. Get this and just the past week pulls. A came out showing Biden up fifteen points in Michigan up nine Wisconsin. Up. To Ohio tied in Iowa tied in Texas, all states trump won in two thousand sixteen. After. A recent CNN poll showed Biden up. Fourteen points nationally trump got so upset that he and He retained a highly respected pollster to analyze poll. Another's which I felt were all caps fake. Terrible numbers have taken such a toll on the president's fragile ego. The trump campaign is spent slightly more than four hundred thousand dollars on Cable News ads where well in the swing state of Washington DC over the past month, according to the daily beast, even though he no shot up winning there or in the surrounding states, it's an apparent effort to show the president who spend most of his day all of his day. Something like that watching Cable News and tweeting. They're running ads for him. They got his back. And then today amidst the national conversation just moved so quickly on police reform that even conservative Republicans like Flying Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker. Have placed themselves on the side of reform. And it's this. Change public opinion, the president of the United States today took took aim at the frail cancer, surviving seventy-five-year-old lifelong peace activist in Buffalo, named Martin Buccino a man who gently approached the cops to talk to them, and was shoved to the ground in front of us all. Blood pooling next to his head. Mr Gino who has spent his life, advocating for causes like peace and justice had to spend nearly a week in the ICU. The president today decided to suggest the elderly posters press. Chester could be ANTIFA provocateur. WHO's trying to scan police communications earned a blackout the equipment by the way he fell harder than was pushed. Setup? In response to that. Insane Disgusting Conspiracy Theory Martino himself told USA Today and the at he has quote no comment. Other than black lives matter just out of the ICU should recover eventually, thanks. Always been this kind of feral candy nist the way the trump plays politics. We've all seen it, and it can be hard to tell. Is this man a master manipulator? We'll just kind of brain dead regurgitation of the dark fantasy that make up his media diet. Right now sure seems like the ladder, doesn't it? President is running options slipping the polls. None of his tricks are working, but of course he will stop at nothing to hang onto power, which is why he has been trying to whip up this frenzy of illegitimacy around the basic administration and free and fair elections in this Democratic Republic, and also why his Republican allies have in making it harder for people to vote either by mail despite the pandemic in person. which brings us to election day? Today was election day. Five states held primaries including NBC, including Georgia where NBC News Projects Joe Biden on the Democratic presidential primary. Not that surprising he's the only one left in the race, and this was a scene in the state of Georgia earlier today. Look at. Primary voters mostly in counties that are majority white, having to wait an hours long lines, hours and hours many turned away from the polls mid problems with voting machines any lack of available balance. To come here and you think that you're actually taking an active part in bringing bringing about social change and you get here and it's like I can't go. You don't know if this is just negligence or is. This does deliver. You don't know where it's coming from is just really bad round. It really was a.
"chris hayes" Discussed on All In with Chris Hayes
"Joining me now for more on the president's attempt to pass the blame onto the state Democratic Congresswoman Paul of Washington and congresswoman. You know I suppose the silver lining of the president wanting to essentially delegate and blame is that at the very least he's not like ordering states back into business or things like that at the very least gotten out of the way enough that states that have managed it well like the state of Washington. Your state and I know you've been in a lot of contact with local leaders about this. Have been able to do what they needed to do. I suppose that's the one upside. What what is the cost of this kind of back seat? Approach the president's taking well Chris I mean I think that first of all what we really need to do is liberate ourselves from this president because he has not been helpful in coordinating a federal response. Now some of the people on his team have been we have been able to work closely with some of those people including Dr Foul not a doctor. Burks even the vice president but I think in order for us to beat this virus which is the central question is not about opening up the economy. If we're GONNA open up the economy we have to beat the virus and that is central to this and if the federal government had a coordinated response to how we were GONNA put in place the ability to have testing the the ability to have contact tracing. That is what we need steady supply of the equipment. The tasks all of those things but tied to that in this. Your previous guests was speaking to this. In the meantime we have to make sure we're dealing with the economic devastation. That we have already seen twenty two million people who have filed new unemployment claims in the last month this is going to be a quick downward spiral unless we quickly have a bold solution and that is why. I introduced my paycheck Guarantee Act last week the Senate also just introduced something very similar. What this would do is ensure that we keep people on paychecks. We stanch the flow of unemployment Which is what other countries in Europe have done Germany France Denmark and we ensure that paychecks and benefits continue for workers by directing that money to businesses to put into that payroll and benefits would also does from a public health perspective is gifts incentives for people to stay home for businesses to stay closed and workers to stay home for as long as public health dictates and when we ramp up it is not going to be turning on a light switch. It's going to be a slow ramp up that if we need to re shudder as you were talking about which is really a very real possibility when ninety to ninety five percent of the time. Yeah we'll be uninfected. That's a very real possibility. So we would need to be able to have businesses re shudder and my proposal would allow for us to scale. So if a business is losing seventy percent of its revenue it would get seventy percent of the amount and it would automatically renew based on economic triggers that we would have to meet is so that we know the crisis is over. I wonder about you know. There's there's the there's sort of two things right. There's the virus in the economic devastation. And we have to sort of do both and managing that economic devastation is the thing that will facilitate the conditions to allow us to do what we have to do to to to beat back the virus or do you think there is enough urgency right now among your colleagues. I talked to Jeffrey Speaker. Closest week to to get a bill passed. I mean clearly. There wasn't enough money there. He just in the pay payroll protection. Act which is designed to precisely the way you say right. The the loans are forgivable key people on payroll. Is there enough urgency? Are you moving quickly? Enough is enough being done to kind of keep people supportive. Well I think the problem is. We've tried to use existing systems to deliver relief but those systems are not designed to deliver this kind of relief in this day in aid. So we've used unemployment insurance. That's great but we can't have twenty two million New People joining a unemployment insurance and expect to be able to process that quickly the paycheck protection program was a good set of principles. And as you point out similar to what I'm doing but number one it is incredibly inefficient in how it's delivered using a network of banks and the small business administration when we could go straight from treasury to a business on top of that it's only for companies that have less than five hundred businesses that have less than five hundred workers. Small businesses are incredibly important and so are the large businesses. Small businesses have much less relationship to banks so they are disadvantaged in getting the P and large businesses that have laid off twelve hundred workers. We also need to address the issues of how we keep those workers on paychecks because at the end of the day if we don't prevent this enormous mass unemployment that is here our economy will continue to go into a downward spiral. We won't be able to stimulate consumer demand. We will lose too many businesses on any can't be alone. Even forgivable mine would be a grant that would be made directly to the business. It would be very simple very streamline and we would keep the economy going even through partial recovery so that we can continue to at least hold a level of stasis in the economy rather than trending down congresswoman. Dr Paul. Thank you so much thank you. Chris had the deadly game. Some of the president's most vocal supporters are playing downplaying. The human cost the pandemic in order to get back to business as usual. Set the record straight next. Hey It's Chris. As this week on my podcast wise is happening. I'll be talking with computational biologist Carl Bergstrom but what we do and don't know about the corona virus once these things get out there.
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"We need a coordinated approach between the federal government and the states. All he's doing is walking in front of the parade but he is nothing to do with the timing of the parade because he can't handle the responsibility day. Donald trump tried to steer the blame to Democrat governors launching a really unhinged series of dangerously provocative tweets calling on people to protect their second amendment rights and liberate states shutdown by democratic governors. All this while armed. Trump supporters are actively protesting in these state capitals. The reason why he is so desperate to shift the blame is because the blame is coming because the scale of the national emergency we're going through is impossible to ignore here are some headlines from last twenty four hours in American life. The Republican governor by what were schools closed for the rest of the year Republican Governor Mississippi. Who WAITED AWHILE. Do a shelter in place extended his shelter in place order for another week. The Grand Island Area Nebraska now has a cove in nineteen case rate comparable to some of the hardest hit states in the country in fact CNN reports bump and corona virus cases is most pronounced in states without stay at home mortars Oklahoma saw fifty three percent increase in cases over the past week. South Dakota a whopping two hundred and five percent spike be LOMPOC. Federal Penitentiary in California has the worst outbreak in a prison. Sixty nine inmates and twenty five staff members infected twenty. Five people died at just one nursing home in Wayne New Jersey. Ninety percent of the people living at the facility have symptoms and there are thousands of Moore who died in nursing homes across the country. The disease is touching every corner of the country. Here's how the owner of family funeral home in Brooklyn New York explained the reality there the other big issue that we have in New York City. Craig is there a very few crematories? There's really less than a handful in the whole city of New York. And so right. Now for instance. If you wanted to be cremated in Brooklyn the next available date is mid. May in two cases of people exper- facetime so that they could so that they could say goodbye to their husband or say goodbye to their mom. So but it's it's not. It's not how we're made. Both as an industry is a family run funeral home but not has where meat is humans. We look for that visual that that human contact in. It's not possible right now. It's not safe. President's failure has brought us. This moment didn't have to be this way the. Us and South Korea both reported the first confirmed cases on the very same day. Around two hundred. Thirty people have died from the disease in South Korea. Over thirty six thousand have died here in the US. It's now everywhere in this country. It is devastating. And there's no more avenue to a song and dance about boosting the stock market. Happy Talk. That's why you see the president saying today. The states have to step up testing. Even that is an acknowledgement of the failure. A concession of how bad things are and that's what fomenting all the protests is about and trying to restart party two point. Oh the president and his allies are desperate and the knowledge. It's bad it's going to be bad and the political question for them now is. Can we blame someone else? Can we blame the worst part of this reality? Is there some things? Only the federal government can do every state and local officials in saying that today was basically a declaration by the federal government of. You're on your own and not just to the states. This is key to us. Every American every family member worried about a loved one in a long term care facility or in a prison driving the bus for living or working in a beat packing plant. You're on your own figuring out. The president's transparent blame shifting has not been lost some traditional conservative folks. James Pathak UCA's at the American Enterprise Institute tweeted so trump tells the governor. They're calling the shots at the same time. He's encouraging resistance against those shots being called. What now and Jim Pathak ujpest joins me now. You have been a trump skeptic though a conservative Jim. But you've been writing about just the sort of when you step back and take a scale at look at where we are right now stipulated. This virus is nasty and difficult and the policy challenges are real and the best government in the world would screw up but the overall picture right now is really bad and I feel like there's a little bit of denial about that It is bad. Listen I think this was a poor response especially given the fact that people like to call this a black swan but the black swan has appeared like every few years since about two thousand. Five's I don't have a lot of patience for the we never saw this coming. How how did we know? Clearly our response could be better. I think every voter in America every citizen should expect a lot more from their government. But sort of here we are. What are we going to do going forward? I'm sure there's going to be some sort of commission in the future but what we do right now and the last thing the president should be doing is telling people like resist your governors. Don't listen to your governors but we need is this reopening process to go as smoothly as possible. So we don't have. We don't have a second wave of outbreaks and that this terrible economy right now doesn't last beyond June because if we get a second wave of outbreaks that we're going to have twenty five percent unemployment in the third quarter and twenty five percent unemployment in the fourth quarter that can be avoided but we need to do things now. This is the part of this. That has been so maddening to me. From the moment from late February the incentives should be aligned. The incentive for the president should be to manage this as well as possible so that as few people get sick as people die and the economy rebounds as quickly as possible. If you do a good job you should be rewarded by voters and likewise if you do a bad job and yet instead it's being managed to get through the next news cycle to plausibly. Be Able to blame the governor of Michigan for the lockdown in your state. But that's not good. That's very short sighted strategy. You can't worry about the news cycle. You sort of have to accept that you're going to go through a period here where the where. The market's going to be down by a lot that the economy is going to be down by a lot. That unemployment is going to go up and you need to get through this period so we can get control this virus and then prepare for the recovery. Prepare for when the shutdown is over. And hopefully get a sharp rebound. But you don't have that initial pain. They're not going to gain on the other end and it's going to be. I mean the election the least of it. But you know he won't get reelected if we have a third quarter where the economy's out another fifty percent annualized right because you're you're saying here and I think this is really important right. Is that if you screw up the quote unquote reopening. If you promise a reopening people go back to work and then in places that do this you see massive outbreaks and they are forced to essentially shuttering retreat. I've already seen Wall Street. Desperately wants to bid up prices because they definitely wants to believe there's a v. Shape here but they will get spooked like crazy if that happens and you will see a second crash Chris. Every forecast has the economy following it. Oh by a huge amount now but then roaring back in the you know the third quarter and fourth quarter assumes that we've sort of seen the worst of it at this point that that there won't be a second wave if that happens all bets are off. What do you think about this? Sort of the weird interplay between the sort of the fact on one day he. He announces a plan. The plan itself is defensible. The eighteen page plan phase one face to face three delegates states authorities and the next day is sort of inciting protests against people that are essentially more or less falling the plan that his own government laid out the day before so now so not only did he follow that plan but then they also it'd be a lot of planets sort of vacation spots that are redefining things so you really are counting on these governors. Do a fantastic job. Never probably never going to have them on testing. We want so we have to make sure that we have them on a social distancing that they open reopen places and logical matter so they need to ace it and if they do well then the president will do well. But you have to. You cannot worry about what's happening in the next forty six hours. Orders Protests in Michigan or Minnesota. You may love those people may be wearing your trump hats but you need to be thinking about what's going to happen in August September October November. You you're someone who pays a lot of attention to macroeconomic trends to both fiscal monetary policy. I think you and I have sort of different views on some of that stuff but but I think that you you very clearly WanNa make sure as I do. My big fear is this becomes a ripple effect that then like a snowball rolling. A mountain gathers a kind of steam as an economic contraction that when the virus goes away. Can't be unwound right. What what do you see as the crucial steps to make sure we don't end up with that and I think by far crucial stop is trying to keep things sort of intact. Yes you want people to have money so they can pay their bills and pay their rent. We make sure there's an economy to come back to which is why this whole small business support has been so important. It's gotten off to a slow start. They ran through the SBA so ended up being a little. Bit more bureaucratic. They should've they should've allotted three four five times as much money from the very beginning. So now it's now their money and they have to pass new bill. But now there's debate between Democrats or Republicans that hunk particularly of the economic. Spor plan really needs to work. Well it needs to start working better and it needs to start working better immediately because you had to continue disintegration of American business particularly small business companies five hundred employees or less then. I think you really are looking toward a very long miserable recovery. You may not technically qualifies depression for sure. GonNa feel like it. Keeping those folks in business and afloat is K. Jim Pathak UCA's similarly always make sure thank you very much. Thank you Chris Hayes. Joining me now for more on the president's attempt to pass the blame onto the state Democratic Congresswoman Paul of Washington and congresswoman. You.
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"Good evening from New York. I'm Chris Hayes the. Us has had among the worst most catastrophic responses the kroner bias among pure nations and that is in large part because the president has failed at every turn and the result is unprecedented illness and misery and death in this country and that doesn't include the economic devastation. That has been this president sole focus from the beginning as he attempts to save his own political future. That means the toll of this virus becomes more and more clear every single day and can't be happy talked away. President trump now needs to find someone to blame for the crisis that he helped bring about. That's what today has been all about for the president a day after telling nations governors. You're going to call your own shots. He tweeted the states. Have to step up their testing as the Washington Post reports. Trump's the buck stops with the state's posture is largely designed to shield himself from blame. Should there be new outbreaks after states reopen or for other problems according several current and former senior administration officials involved in response. Think about that. They're designing it around. Blame shifting all along trump has wanted to have it both ways. He wants credit for anything. That goes well even for things that don't really ever happen. Like the almost not existed drive through testing and Walmart and target parking lots. We were promised that he wants to make sure the blame sticks to anyone but himself a Susan Glasser put in the New Yorker ultimate power and no responsibility in a press conference today. New York governor. Andrew Cuomo summed up the president's cowardly. Were here as backup except when we can take credit. Mantra this is mayhem. We need a coordinated approach between the federal government and the states. All he's doing is walking.
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"Because of an emergency the White House Congresswoman Katie was at that hearing today. We'll talk about what happened next. We aren't the ones that called the alarm being raised about this pandemic as fake news that came out of the president of the United States about and no gas lighting is a high that House Oversight Committee held a hearing today on the federal response to Corona virus. Were Dr Anthony. Fauci the head of the National Institute Allergy and Infectious Diseases. Delivered a serious warning. The worst of the pandemic is yet to come. The testimony however was cut short ending an hour and a half earlier than planned. Because president trump summoned the witnesses to what chairwoman Carolyn Maloney called equal emergency meeting at the White House or the members of that committee who has denied her opportunity to question. America's top public health officials Congressman Katie. Puerto of California. Who JOINS ME? Now I let me just start on that. Do you have a clear understanding of what happened this morning? And why that Oversight Committee hearing was cut short. We were simply told that there was a meeting that they were required to attend at the White House. We do understand that the witnesses will be present again tomorrow They believe eleven. Am for the hearing to continue. And I'm looking forward to questioning them and continuing to press them on the administration's response out that type two concerns. One of them has to do with what we're just speaking out in previous segment about cost in a letter that you wrote to Alexander among others it is critical that any cost barrier limits cove in nineteen diagnostics testing be removed so those who may be infected not forgo testing because of cost concerns. Is there currently any national policy or mandate that says anyone who is tested can do it for free? I'm really glad you're asking about this. Because this is exactly what I'm going to be tackling with the witnesses tomorrow at the hearing so I don't think I've known for tipping my hand to the witnesses but I really want to. I really want them to get this answer right when I put them to them tomorrow. At the hearing there is an existing regulation already in. Us Law that provides during a public health emergency that the CDC can pay for treatment examination and testing all of those things. And so that's that's already in our Federal Regulations. That's already one of the tools that has been at the disposal of the Department of Health and Human Services and the CDC this entire time. So I'm going to call them tomorrow publicly to make sure that testing and treatment is free and the insurers pay their portion but the American families are not left that no American is left paying out of pocket or deterred from getting testing or treatment because of cost barriers. We have been trying in our own reporting and I know other sort of crackdown. What has happened with testing and the bottlenecks in it and the lack of capacity. I know it's a concern you have do. You have a clear idea. Is there. Good communication with the White House. About what exactly the precise status of it is and what the obstacles to scaling up our. There's actually been a real gap between what we here at these. Where have now become weekly coronavirus briefings and then what we hear when we go home and talk to families and constituents. I'll I had a telephone call this week. A conference call with hospitals in my area They were all expressing that they don't necessarily have access to testing if they are sending testing in. It's taking days and days to get responses One of the things that were exploring is there's a CRA multiple failures in this testing process. One of them is not enough. Swab kits not enough kits disseminated to the right locations in quickly enough but one of the things that we do potentially have at. Our disposal is a lot of our research. Labs use the same equipment to do testing that is currently used in the clinical healthcare setting. So it may be possible to use some of those research laboratories at universities for example to do some of the clinical testing but there's a process and some administrative barriers to getting through that. And so I'm interested in continuing to explore. How can we bring existing resources to bear on this problem quickly? Final question for you. You're you're a member of the Democratic Caucus. It appears that some kind of stimulus package is going to be unveiled tomorrow by Democratic leadership. That's the indication we have. You have a sense of that or do you. At least have your principles and priorities from what you want to see out of a package tomorrow. Absolutely I'm going to be looking for something that's going to be putting families first. That's going to be prioritizing public health commitments. The House already passed a bill last week. Eight point three billion. Those were the things that Dr Chee in particular who I think has been the most reliable Administration official in terms of understanding really the science behind. This and what we can do to save lives. We already did that last week this week. We're looking to focus on understanding and protecting families who may be. I'm not able to get meals Dealing with transportation or school closures. Trying to make sure that we're putting families I in this. This is not the time to be. The stock market will stabilize when families are stabilized. When health conditions stabilize the market will respond. So I'm disappointed that we have a president who thinking more about the interests of special interests and big corporations that he is about the healthcare and life and death situation of American families Congresswoman Katie Porter of California as always. Thank you so much just ahead what we learn when Bernie..
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"Corona viruses spread every nation has faced policies along a spectrum from containment to mitigation containment aims to identify isolate. The viruses stop it spread when it first appears in a country with the hope that maybe you could just kind of snuff out eventually. Though what's happened in country after country the virus gets out among the population and then governments are forced to move to mitigation approaches. The problem is that mitigation is just incredibly disruptive Bo socially and economically just last week a senior official at the Centers for Disease Control Deck. Dr Nancy Massoni warned that as the virus spreads which was inevitable mitigation efforts are going to be implemented the disruption to everyday life might be severe. But here's the thing. These mitigation efforts are necessarily disruptive. You have to start doing these. Big Societal things means of slowing transmission. And I don't want to talk to three people who know how to deal with this kind of thing are thinking about how to New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio currently trying to contain the corona virus city congresswoman. Donna Shalala Florida who served as secretary of Health and Human Services under president. Bill Clinton and Dr. Pierre Hotel has back on the program professor and Dean of Baylor College of Medicine's National School of Tropical Medicine. Mr Mayor let me begin with you. We know that there have been some cases in the New York area. There's reports of New York City teacher who travelled to Italy who may be showing symptoms. How how were you thinking about? What steps you're taking at. The city level containment exactly is the strategy look. We you're still thinking of containment. Oh absolutely because the the the sad reality. That's going to be the history. This is the United States. Government had focused on decentralized approach getting testing out early. We would be an entirely different reality. That could have been done weeks ago but the fact of New York City now finally has independent testing capacity. As of Monday means we can aggressively go out. Identify potential cases. We're ruling out the vast majority when we test the ones that we find. We are able to take them and contain them meaning isolate them and stay at least for now a head of the situation so. I think if you take a muscular approach and we have a huge public health apparatus and we now in New York City guarantee people healthcare regardless of ability to pay regardless of documentation status. So we've got a very open environment. We're inviting people in daycare. That gives us the best chance. We actually might stay ahead of this for a period of time congresswoman you. Hhs and we're starting to see sort of early. Signs part of the problem policymakers have faced. Is that taking these kind of big mitigation. Efforts is is disrupted right. You cancel conferences or you get rid of corporate travel or you ask people to work from home today. We saw in the state of Washington. They're asking for that. And policymakers are reticent to do that because it disrupts people's lives how. How should we be thinking about that? Balance and trade off. Well that is a balance in. It's a judgment call but first of all we have to have our testing apparatus in place Look we have world class physicians scientists at the CDC at the FDA at the NIH that are working on this in addition with the vice president in charge of. We were briefed today. I have some hope that the government is starting to come together now. I don't think it's useful for us to just beat up the government you know. Fear is virus and we have to be careful in this process. The president was totally undisciplined. They tried to set him straight on the vaccines but he is undisciplined. So we have to move beyond that and the first line of Defense our state and local governments. Luckily New York City has a world class health public health system which has had a lot of experience dealing with AIDS and TB and other infectious diseases. And they're an an Washington state. Which is the epicenter. Now also has a very good health system. We've got to fund them appropriately. The problem here is that we have never funded this country for readiness in public health. We've never put the kind of resources together. So we don't have to add Hockett every time we see a disease and see a new virus and frankly there's another virus coming along. I don't know what its name is but then the next year or two we're going to see it and unless we're ready for it it's going to just be another ad hoc process. Dr Dr Hotels. Where do you a given given the sort of limited testing we've been doing and now we're getting more mass deployment? How is your what is your understanding of where we are right now in the US. Thanks for having me Chris. It's great to be here. You know what we're seeing now is the beginning of evidence of community spread and it's really taking off now in the Seattle area and Washington. Dc and based on that. We've already seen what we can expect. And it's it's not great in for instance in the nursing. Home in Kirkland. We've already seen seven deaths and there may be more to follow so what that's telling us. Is We know from the studies in Wuhan that the mortality rates the death rate among older people over seventy as ten fifteen percent. So you're hearing strange messages. This is just the flu or a mild virus. Certainly if you're over the age of seventy that's not the case. This virus is ripped through the nursing. Home like the angel of death and we have to recognize now that every nursing home in the country is potentially vulnerable including because of our guests tonight Miami and New York City. And we have to get ready for that. So we've got a now strategically place our testing such a way that we're going to protect those individ but we've seen with other populations as well. Our healthcare workers are highly vulnerable again. We saw listen Wuhan. We knew this was coming. So we know our healthcare workers and if they start to go down the whole system falls apart and there are others among taxi. Drivers Uber Drivers highly risk. So I think the message is as we increase the number of kits and I hope that that happens very soon. We're GONNA have to be strategic at least in the beginning how we use them and focus all of our energy on protecting those highly vulnerable populations right now Dr Houghton just as important. I think is sort of important to stress here right because people are worried about the virus. And there's a difference between the Personal Mike Pence d you. The risk is low right now and he's right even Italy Italy's got sixty million people's got five thousand cases right. That's a tiny fraction Italian relation. Right like you compared to car accidents fluids so it's that the individual risk to you watching this right now is is relatively low that changes if you're compromising it's the systemic risk right. I mean the the capacity of public health hospitals in New York City. The number ventilators you have I mean. Is that how you are thinking about it as mayor? Yeah I mean. Look when you're responsible for people's health and safety you actually start with the individual to be fair so for those older folks for those folks who are compromise. Our job is to try and see if we can get to them in time to help them right to identify or protect them in whatever way we can but your bigger point is exactly right. The irony here is I mean for the vast majority of people. Even if they contracted it's not going to be a seismic experience it is the dislocation of the whole society of the economy the way it knocks out our ability to do a lot of other things. We need to look the best defensive offense in this case I think which is to again very as much as humanly possible contain and I understand. There are limits to that ultimate ultimately as much as possible test contain. Get the measures out there to try and help people in need the shocking thing here. I think this is. This is the harbinger of things to come in a globalised world. New Strains of bacteria resistant strains new diseases emerging and a healthcare system. That's antiquated we're gonNA see more this. If ever there was an advertisement for Medicare for all. We're seeing it right now with the corona virus. And Look we've done as I said we're guaranteeing healthcare right now in New York City. We're saying whoever YOU ARE REGARDLESS OF BILL. Pay You get a permanent here. Dr. We have a way to help you with our public hospitals and clinics. This has to be our future or these kind of things will run wild part. You talked Congressman about about some of the holes in the public health system in the US. Are you concerned about the ways in which say lack of public of lack of sick days or people's fears about attest there's a Miami man I think who tested and got a huge bill might impact the way that we can comprehensively deal with us? He got a huge bill because he had a junk. Healthcare plan which All of us have jetted to over the last few months. We've just passed a bill a few hours ago for eight billion dollars. That's a down payment on putting together of the systems that we need To to deal with this virus. And that's just a down payment. We know that we have to glue the healthcare system together and make deep investments in state and local health systems and give everyone access. If a doctor says you ought to go get a test. You ought to be able to get that test. The commercial testing system has now been employed so that we don't have to depend just on the academic health centers and the state testing systems We're going to use the commercial systems. And they're already gearing up to make sure that we have tests available for those who need those tests but targeting the populations that are vulnerable is going to be critical in the days and weeks ahead. Dr Hotels you've talked about some of the lessons we've learned from Wuhan. Which is the epicenter of the outbreak? And one I wanted to talk about how to make evaluations government evaluations evaluations on big policy. Decisions like closing schools from Japan did. Italy announced today is closing schools. Iraqi Kurdistan is closing Friday prayers in mosques. What's the tipping point? How do you make that decision from an epidemiological standpoint? Well I think we're gonNA depend on the level of transmission in the community. We may not be far from that In the Seattle area and we'll have to see how this moves forward in the coming weeks. Remember how this works and we saw it with Zeka in in two thousand sixteen. You know you've got tremendous health. Department New York City Health Department as the mayor points is one of the finest in the world. That's outstanding in Miami a Houston in Harris County outstanding health departments. That's the gold standard. Unfortunately there are a lot of health departments in this country. That don't meet that gold standard. We saw this Zico. There are some especially in some of the smaller towns were Larry's there's almost zero capacity to manage this and handle this. I'm hoping that a good chunk of that whatever. The number is seven eight billion dollars. We'll go the bill. That capacity as the congressman points out. We should have been ready for this before because the next virus is going to come along. We just have vast variability heterogeneity in the ability of our local public health departments to respond. Great Point Mayor Bill Brazo Congresswoman. Donna Shirley Ila Dr Peter Hotels. Thank you all so much head. There's a lot of good news about the turnout on Super Tuesday but it's potentially brutal presidential race runs headlong into Corona Virus. How that could affect the outcome. Stay with us..
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"The United States does not seem to understand what a vaccine is. The failure of the administration's response to Corona virus is making things worse next. It has now been a week. Since the Centers for Disease Control confirmed the first community transmission of Corona virus in the United States that someone getting ill without some known association with a traveller in the affected area. Now here's the CDC web page on Corona Virus. I go to it every day. It is updating once a day it is raw trong says there are nine total deaths from the virus in fact there are now eleven confirmed s got two more today the CDC also says there eighty total cases in the US. The case number is almost certainly higher. In fact John's Hopkins Private University that's Been Monitoring Global Pandemic has compiled data showing that. There are at least one hundred and fifty three cases in the US. I mean she. News is counting one hundred and fifty eight including from the Diamond Princess cruise ship. Why does this matter it matters? Because transparent communication about the scope of the situation is one of the key lessons we have learned from the other places that have experienced the pandemic we here in the. Us are getting this rather late. We had the benefit of learning from the mistakes of the many countries that came before us and the trajectory this virus and there are two things that we have learned or should have learned one you have to be clear honest and transparent about the scope of the virus infection and you need to test to do so. We are failing to do that miserably right now yesterday. Finally nearly a week into his tenure overseeing their sponsor Corona Virus Vice President Mike Pence so the US plans to send out two thousand five hundred testing kids under the week to test up to one point. Five million people. That's a start but it is still going to take too long to get that. Testing passed up and running nationwide and when the test do deploy case numbers. This country will spike. Which will freak people out? They shouldn't be. The whole point is that we do not know how many cases there are because inexplicably. We have not been testing nearly enough now for at least a week and probably longer is the Atlantic put it the official coronas virus. Numbers are wrong and everyone knows it and that is true every expert. I've talked to doctors epidemiologists public health experts. They are tearing their hair out of the fact that we do not know how many cases there are one. Infectious Disease expert writes that after more testing he expects Seattle look like Wuhan China around January first when they are reporting the first cluster of patients with unexplained viral pneumonia Wuhan. Does that sound familiar because that was the epicenter of the outbreak. This is a serious thing. It's not real worthy. Not everyone's going to die. It's a serious thing that needs to be dealt with seriously and right now. The federal government is failing. They are failing to do that. And they appear to be failing for reason. The reason is the person at the top of the federal government does not want to deal with the problem. He very clearly wants it to go away. He said cases are going to go down to zero. He says he's hoping for a miracle. Or maybe it will go way seasonally. He's spent the last week talking about a vaccine which is not the point. The vaccines going to take a year to eighteen months which the president cannot accept. Take a second and listen to this exchange and note that the president of the United States doesn't even understand what a vaccine is let alone. How long it takes develop on really that a vaccine that our table I mean Johnson and Johnson adviser all these great companies a shooting in President vaccine made and start testing a vaccine point. So he's asked. The question is in a lawyer is going to be at the earliest year to year and a half no matter how they treated will begin excited. You.
"chris hayes" Discussed on All In with Chris Hayes
"Evening from New York. I'm Chris Hayes. The race to the Democratic presidential nominee has changed dramatically over the last three days and particularly in the last twenty four hours. It is now effectively a two person race. Only Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders can feasibly earn enough delegates to win the nomination. This clear last night but then two things happened today. That made it even more of a two person race. I Michael Bloomberg dropped out of the race threw his support to Biden and then after missing the fifteen percent delegate threshold in most Super Tuesday states elizabeth campaign manager center an email. The staff this morning saying they are quote disappointed the results and that warm. We'll be going to take time right now to think through the right way to continue this fight. Last night was surprising delegate. Victory for Joe Biden who is expecting Bernie Sanders to win the evening and basically just wanted to survive the night with not too big of a lead for Sanders. Instead it was Biden who won states where he was pulling away behind just a few days ago he won Minnesota and Maine. He Went Massachusetts Elizabeth Warren Home State where she came in Third Biden also managed to pull out a victory Texas which many people were not anticipating exit polls show that late deciding voters broke heavily for Joe Biden. Much of sudden success was powered by people who decided to vote for him right before they cast their votes. And of course that happened following the very intense concerted consolidation of a certain part of the Democratic Party behind Joe Biden. One of the most influential figures in all of South Carolina. Politics Congressman. Jim Clyburn kick it off with a key endorsement right. Before the South Carolina primary last weekend then former candidates people to judge Amy Klobuchar to work all endorse Biden Monday night Joe Biden now according to our estimates has a fifty to delegate lead on Bernie Sanders Today Sanders held a press conference where he talked up his winning California and look forward to the upcoming primaries in states like Michigan Washington. Now Sanders is not out of it for sure but the problem is once you get behind the delegate race with proportional allocation. It's very hard to make up the ground particularly when you look at who is likely to do well in those upcoming state contests with anything. Biden Super Tuesday. Success is a testament to way that black voters older voters and suburban women have been looking for some kind of singular candidate some signal from the party. Some arrived at consensus of how to end the primary and move on the general election and who could best take on trump and the signal. That's been sent from a lot of party elders. Particularly in the last few days is clear and if Bernie Sanders cannot find a way to appeal to a bigger percentage of Democrats outside his existing base the nomination Mike quickly be out of his reach joining me now for more on what we learned last night is Barbara Boxer. She's a former Democratic senator from the state of California now co hosting the Boxer Pad podcast. She has endorsed Vice President. Joe Biden for president. Senator you endorse within the last week right yes. I waited 'til after South Carolina as soon as I saw it. I wrote out a statement. I send it to the Biden campaign. I said here it is use it as you want. I'm for Joe because clearly that timing the timing a lot of people felt right but I don't get why folks who worked with Joe Biden like Joe Biden supported him as I think I've had you on the program clearly few warmly towards him. You have a Lotta respect for the man. Why not do it a month ago or six weeks ago? Why did everyone wait till South Carolina? What did that do to the way that you think of the race? That's such a great question. I was thinking about it because it wasn't an anomaly. For people like me to wait. It also was reflective of voters so many voters who couldn't decide. I think we all wanted to see who could beat. Donald Trump and when we saw South Carolina Coalition. Come you know right to the fore and it was so broad and deep as you said not only African American voters suburban women men you know every age group really remarkable. Turn out for him that was the signal and and everyone just got on board. I think there's huge momentum and I think it took courage for Buddha judge and Bloomberg Hall had the dream you know to set it aside for the good of the country. I WanNa give you an argument that I see people make who are less sold on Joe Biden. Whether for ideological reasons were electable reason. Let's talk about the ladder for a second. Which is basically that. He hasn't been a particularly strong candidate. That the reason there was reticence on many people to get behind him was because people are watching his performance and didn't think it was particularly good. That has not been particularly effective communicator on the trail and that all of those problems still linger despite the consolidation that we've seen the last few days. What do you say to that does not a perfect candidate? I mean he's not slick and he has never been slick I know him for years he goofs up on some words you know that he overcame of terrible stammering stutter. And he's been knocked down in his life and he. I think the metaphor from South Carolina was hearing was before that really pretty well knocked down. Perhaps out the sanders people said it was over and he came back and I think because he's imperfect in a way it makes him more the every man you know the every person we are all flawed the way that Donald Trump and starting to get some reporting about how the trump campaign is thinking about this. Although trump just tweeted this out. So you don't and it's not like reading the tea leaves but you know the recipe for the victory over. Hillary Clinton sort of had three channels one was they were the beneficiary of foreign intelligence services helping them and engaging criminal sabotage to was to paint Hillary Clinton unrelentingly as essentially corrupt insider that she was part of the establishment she was also corrupt and she was self-dealing and the third was to try to divide the left to to sort of take advantage of fissures within the Democratic Coalition after that long primary between Sanders and Clinton. It seems very clear. They're going to run the exact same race against Joe Biden. Why are you confident? It won't work this tough people now know Donald Trump they know about the sixteen thousand lies. They know that he has no compassion. We know that it's all about him. Constantly twenty four seven. And you don't we. We see what's happening with the GOP how they just are puppets they see Russia helping trump. They see trump embracing dictators. We see and all of us see him saying that the constitution says he can do whatever he wants so this has been you know a a successful campaign by him against Hillary by the way she got more popular. But we won't go there but it's also all the things that people I've seen and are very upset about so. I think it's very different. The last point I'd make is you know the American people are smart. They know that trump did not want to see Joe Biden. Get this and he did everything to try and stop him including getting impeached. If I might say and now the people woke up and if it's the biggest turnaround I've ever seen I've been around a long time. I've been an elected life for more than forty years. I've never seen a comeback kid exactly like this one. All right a senator Barbara Boxer. Thank you so much for making time from California and I really appreciate joining me now for more on the sudden momentum swing Mehdi Hassan Columnists intercept. Host of the deconstructed podcast. Many you have your own fears about Joe Biden's electability but I want to talk about Sanders for a second. It's always struck me that the sanders kind of theory is a kind of a interestingly self-testing hypothesis in this way the idea is look were. We know we're running against the democratic establishment. He says that new says terms. We know we have the only way we can do to bring New People in right to make the math work and thus far they have not been able to deliver on that. Promise of new turnout particularly among young younger voters. It's gone up a little bit in the places where we saw the biggest turnout. Busse like Virginia last night. That is where sanders got crushed. What do you make of that? I think you're spot on their Chris and the people I spoke to today all disappointed and they don't quite get it because there is this disconnect between the huge rallies and the enthusiasm both on the ground on online and elsewhere in terms of small donors and yet youth turnout which was supposed to be what the nomination and then defeat. Donald Trump. Get as you said on Tuesday in states that he won and that he lost you turned out without g lower than it was in two thousand sixteen so that is a problem for the sanders campaign going forward. And they're gonNA have to fix that in Michigan for example next week if they're going to pull up another victory in Michigan they did in two thousand sixteen because that is crucial to his strategy. There's a there's a new campaign they put out showing Bernie Sanders of the Barack Obama. Barack Obama brazing which is an entire campaign genre. I mean Bloomberg and all sorts of people run ads like this and Ezra Klein made this point which which I think relates to that he said the work of the present requires convincing legislators in your party to support your gender sometimes. The cost of your political or policy emissions if senators and his team. Don't figure out how to do it. They could very well lose to Biden even if they win they'll be unable to govern meeting how to bring more people into the collision. Do you think that's the main challenge for them? It's not the main challenge but it's definitely a challenge. I think Jim Clyburn says that Bernie. Sanders didn't even reach out to him before South Carolina to try and woo him. I think that's a problem or having said that on the other hand let's be honest. Nothing Bernie Sanders could have said. Would've got amy Klobuchar to endorse Monday. Evening where people so. We've got to be realistic about the charming or as friendly. He fundamentally has an agenda and a policy platform. That's a lot of Democrats are not GONNA sign up for but yes he should reach out more at least at a grassroots level. And I'm glad to see him today. Saying Elizabeth Warren take your time very respectful because he does Need Elizabeth Warren Right now. Desk definitely going into Michigan into other states. I would just briefly respond to Barbara Books earlier. About Joe Biden argument. This is not really about Bernie Sanders. Now Biden's now the front runner. Yes you can hate Bernie all you can think he's a crazy communist. Who caught when an American fine but the reality is if you turn to Joe Biden said what? He's too safe Candida. I think you need to do a lot more soul. Searching more examining this is a candidate. Who's not being vetted really in most of the debates? He's hidden in amongst the ten twelve candidates. He's not being asked about the bankruptcy bill. Never really been probed about the Iraq war and and it's kind of turn around on the wall I don't get. Why Democrats as you pointed out Barbara Books to think that you can just rerun the 2016 playbook a not think that donald trump will rerun his. I mean they tried to run a pro Iraq war Pro Wall Street Establishment Democrat with a history of dubious claims dodgy dealings and dodgy comments about mass incarceration superpredators. Where did that end up? You know we'll still saying insanity is doing the same thing again and again and expecting different results. So what do you say to people that? Say Look that aside both sort of elect ability and I think an ideological critiques married. Mary together I think it's fair to say to me the strongest you know. What do you think about the people like Kirsten Cinema Right? So she had to win a very tough way race in Arizona very tough race. She won that state sort of against the odds right. She's coming out for Joe Biden..
"chris hayes" Discussed on All In with Chris Hayes
"Have you guys here. The New Hampshire polling it has been quite fluid actually so clearly. There was a big change for people to judge. It looks like that sort of bump has but it doesn't strike me as a fairly dynamic race right now. Oh I think it's very dynamic and I think that this is going to be a test of the campaigns Brown Games if you've built that infrastructure and I'm talking a year ago beginning to hire those organize open the offices and tried to recruit volunteer. So then you're building your movement. That's the tests that we're going to see tomorrow and I think that when you have nearly half of the folks in the estate undecided I mean our folks in this room really undecided a lot of a lot of good good candidates right. It's better than not having any choices so I think if you like like someone get behind that person work for that person. Don't let it be a self fulfilling prophecy where we're afraid to pick so we don't pick and on my thing. We all have to participate. Thanks sorry the fluidity of the polls too not. Just judging Amy Klobuchar I think it is so surprising in so many ways in Iowa I would talk to. Voters would bring him her name more often than we ever heard nationally and certainly gently more than we see reflected and national polls but I was at an event with her earlier today and there are a handful of undecided. People there but a handful of people who said you know this one speech is what put me over the edge foreclosure chart. Her team feels very good about the fact that she's been hitting the airwaves during impeachment. More than any other senator who's also running for president. She ended another event tonight at nine thirty PM. Because she's like if I'm GONNA be awake I should be talking to voters and it's really fascinating to see what happens with her and there are a lot of independence. Obviously in New Hampshire. That could that could make a big difference. Bernie Sanders of the front runner in in New Hampshire according to the polling averages. He's becoming the front runner nationally. I think victory could make him the clear front runner national especially given the way Joe Biden as hemorrhaging support court. The Biden situation to me seems like the big question story right now and it's related to the Bloomberg Situation Right. Like part of what is very weird about this race at this moment. Is it usually at this race. It's you know who's running and they're on the campaign trail together and it's a winnowing effect. And here that's happened but then this things like crept up on the horizon right. which is someone who spent three hundred twenty million dollars? It's about twenty nine million per point of polling. I think someone calculated affiliated today who is now third and Quinnipiac and this was really striking to me. This is a black support for Democratic candidates before and after Iowa Free Iowa Biden forty nine percent center seventeen Bloomberg Seven Post Iowa Biden twenty seven. That's a loss of twenty two points sanders. Nineteen and Bloomberg twenty two. He is freezing in some ways. The grace from outside of the actual arena of competing in these states. And this is why. It's so dangerous for Joe Biden because he's hemorrhaging support in two of his strongest areas right now African American voters who have held him up nationally as a front runner consistently throughout the last eight or nine months and the issue of electability. He's crashed about seventeen points in two weeks on the issue of electability the single biggest beneficiary on both fronts Mike Bloomberg I mean the Biden people make totally a very legitimate argument right following. We shouldn't be judging the viability. Any of these folks who are running for the Democratic nomination after two contests in two states. That just aren't you know. Don't they're great states but they don't represent what the Democratic primary looks like nationally. The problem though is like this electability argument. They're making so long ends up being this kind of self. Fulfilling prophecy came up against the order of the states. I agree with their the argument. That the order of the states. Either you go on the same day but you just need a more representative sample of the Democratic primary electorate so we can get an accurate sense of what people think so so. I think that they're right on that. The problem is they started with the electability argument. Had they not gone with that argument right. Have they gone with this. These are my messages for the constituencies as that will build the coalition. Then I think they would have been in a better position now because they would be like well. New Hampshire and Iowa are one thing but rare building that coalition that begins in South Carolina and Nevada. And even even if it's not like it is an apples to apples. It isn't the case that winning twenty five percent I mean you're the most electable either in the Democratic primary or in the national but electability itself. Is this like weird invoked squishy concept that has that say well. I'm the person who can win win than it had been. Don't do how are you you making that argument one. How are voters making that argument? How do they define what it takes to be Donald Trump? I ask people all the time whenever I'm talking to voters and a lot of people sort of stare back at me and they have to think about it because because they're like well I don't really know I know that my top priority is replacing Donald trump but Joe Biden to your point has been making this argument the entire time about Donald Trump and why he is the person person best positioned to beat him. But he's selling himself as the product he's not telling anything around him and himself is. The product is no longer as appealing to folks as it was last last year at this time or earlier in the cycle and this by the way is a critical question for Pete. Buddha can translate a a very strong delegate victory in Iowa and a very very strong finish in New Hampshire to the kind of broad coalition. You need to win a primary. He is sort all the way from zero percent to four percent with block voters in the last two weeks since winning Iowa. That's not it. No he notes the show and also more supply gets the point. That plus was just making because really interesting which is like you can hang around at ten or eleven or twelve thirteen percent. You can't win the nomination right. And so at a certain point it really becomes a question of how many people are how long people will stay in the race at that level and for how long and what that does the dynamics damage the race. Why are you smiling? Because there's a couple come to mind that I'm like they could drop out today and it will be fine and I think that they're taking taking some of the attention oxygen from candidates who could benefit from it. So that's why I was thinking of names. They were like ticking. Through this point. One scenario that some democratic establishment figures are starting to freak out about is that Bernie centers rapidly consolidated in the progressive vote right and on the moderate moderate. And you have. Joe Biden people to Judge Mike Bloomberg all private citizens right now. None of them appear likely to leave the race anytime soon to the extent that you believe in the lanes theory and I know it's it's not a perfect theory. Yeah this could be a scenario Bernie. Sanders walks away with it. If these other candidates stay in a crowded field I mean that was part of part of that lesson. They're the top line is the way the delegates are apportioned. Yeah once you accrue a delegate lead it is hard to get it back Franklin energy. That is not exactly from live team today. You know what they're doing in California holding events with voters young voters matter. They know California matters the delegate map and they are not just focused on New Hampshire whether are doing all these different strategies and who else is spending a lot of money in California Mike Bloomberg because he's playing a delegate game and nothing else part of the issue too right is that these two people Bloomberg and Sanders are the people who both through diametrically opposed means. Have the finances to do this. I mean it's not like I'm sure. Amy Amy Klobuchar would be loves vans. The reason those two are playing there is because sanders raised thirty five dollars last month and Michael Bloomberg could a billion dollars father's pocketed could you notice and that's the question for all these. Are they running out of money. What does it mean when they're not fundraising as much as they can? Whether it's online or through other means and someone like Joe Biden read. The question is have you maxed out those donors. You've already dipped into cannot give to you anymore. This is why I think one of the campaigns that I've been focused on very intently. That folks are sort of missing in this conversation is Elizabeth Warren. And the reason why is because she's not taking money from those corporate donors she's just using individual donors so she's she's not as strong as a Bernie Sanders but she's definitely in their additionally half of her support. Is Hillary folks half her support is burning. Folks that's really interesting when you're out the lanes theory and the person who can attract people from both sides why she's talking about the unity message. She's hitching herself in the closing stages as a rare candidate maybe the only one who can unite the progressive faction and and the moderate faction and polls do show that the number one second choice for a lot of voters. The question for her is if she can't win New Hampshire. Where can she win this neighboring state to her and the big question for also ends that being that that grassroots fundraising at engine? Going to say look. We gotta go Nevada and South Carolina and get to Super Tuesday and see what what happens. There that's looming on. Everyone's mind Serena elaina Maxwell Alexi McCain and he'll that was great thank you..
"chris hayes" Discussed on All In with Chris Hayes
"Exactly twelve years ago. I was here in Manchester New Hampshire covering the Democratic primary that year. Barack Obama just pulled off this improbable win. Iowa was appalling. Head ahead in New Hampshire and the conventional wisdom when I was here right right before that election was that he would win New Hampshire and then cruised the nomination. That didn't happen. Hillary Clinton shocked everyone with an upset victory. And that set off this long hard fought delegate only get slog between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton one of the big secret weapons in that fight was Barack Obama's campaign manager a guy named David plouffe plus focused on exploiting the delegate math rules to accrue the kind of lead that ultimately de Broc of on the nominee nomination that year for instance ahead of Super Tuesday rather than fight eight to become the nominal winner in a place like California where the candidates would divvy up delegates between them Obama Instead Campaign States Idaho and Utah pulled up these decisive wind. Can't Barack Obama handily won all but a single Super Tuesday caucus one more than half these primaries. He raked in more delegates that he would have fighting for headline win in in a place like California ball seating smaller contests this pattern of competing for delegate rich winds proved very successful ultimately. It's what one Barack Obama the Democratic the party nomination two thousand and that strategy continued in the general election. David Plot suggested going for the state of Virginia a state that had not gone for a Democrat since Lyndon B Johnson in nineteen eighteen sixty four. And sure enough gene went for Barack Obama. So tonight on the eve New Hampshire primary role into actual voting. The Guy I wanted to talk to you about how to mastermind Burma. Winning Democratic Strategy is David plausible and he joins me next the campaign manager. For Barack Obama's two thousand eight bids the Democratic nomination. The White House led a campaign that overcame huge name recognition disadvantages by using delegate math. And he's here with me and I have you here David so I think and there's two ways to look at these nominating process. Just one is that there's a kind of domino effect two thousand four hundred one. I always think of where it was competitive and then carry one and then just kind of rolled in before renewed. Everyone was like well. I guess this is the person I'm nation and the others. Are these longer drawn out. Delegate battles two thousand eight being kind of most intensive those how are you thinking about the a delegate battle here if in fact this looks like a long a long road of competition so yeah well I think that is the question. It's not about states. You Win big states delegates right so two thousand and two thousand four. We saw Gordon Carry. It ended pretty quickly. Our race went to the end of very close delegates and sixteen went deep. And so I think that's the question and I think right now. The only candidate that I could see where the pathway to seize a delegate lead that they may not give up early is Bernie Sanders because he will be viable in most congressional districts on Super Tuesday. He'll be viable statewide and so the question is the race changes so much next eighteen days we basically shoot out a South Carolina. Some of the candidates to that'll be on the ballot here Ramona. It'll be live so won't you got Bloomberg looming out there. So that really is this all comes down the other things. It's by Congressional District Congressional district at all three delegates or five delegates. You're the one who wins that Congressional district. You get an extra delegate which I know sounds like we're talking crazy matthew. But that's how we're going to decide or nomination if it's close so the viability really thresholds important to explain just for folks. Don't know this right so fifteen percent if you don't get fifteen percent in a given state you get zero delegates state or congressional district. Some states do it by state Senate Inter district like Texas. Okay yes so basically. You've got to get fifteen percent to be eligible for delegates and if you're the only one about fifteen percent then you get all delegates right right so you so the way that works is if a split field is big enough and you've got a bunch of people that are getting fourteen and twelve thirteen. And then there's someone who's got twenty eight percent that person conceivable world in which that person sees all the delegates of say Congressional district even if they're only getting twenty eight percent of the actual raw vote total because all those other people are they're taking their little shares and there are under the viability threshold. Here New Hampshire. The candidates are going to pretty much every town much less county. They did the same thing in Iowa pretty soon to calendar undergoes national you're making your scheduling decisions you resource allocation decisions less your Bloomberg. Then you can spend whatever you want at a very local level based on delegate acquisition position if you're running a smart campaign so that is yeah it gets super and those are big decisions. So if you're only going to be an Alabama or Georgia okay. We're GONNA three times you've got to make those visits count and you gotTa make your spending and your allocation your staff count now the only way to be able to sort of even make those decisions decisions you have to have some sort of funding base that can keep Nationwide Cup campaign operation going right in the case of Saint Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders. They have a big grassroots grassroots fundraising in the case of Joe Biden. Jamie Cobra sure. They're mostly raising money from hard large hard dollar donors and then there's Michael Bloomberg and the Bloomberg question mark is he's just I feel like it's just doesn't there's no precedent for none. There's I mean he's drop three hundred and fifty million dollars. You can drop a billion dollars next week if he wants to. A billion dollars a week after that and a billion dollars we got that and no one knows what that does. We've never seen anything like it. So the one thing I'd say about Bloomberg if you believe national polls he has gone from zero one to fifteen he spent on a Lotta money to get there. The Path from fifteen to thirty though is about fifty times zero to fifteen and so you got the low hanging fruit. which is you're getting in front of people's faces and they're sort of attention because you're buying all these ads but real real big chunk of support you can't just run ads to get right in? A sense is for Bloomberg. He doesn't control his destiny as my view so for him to really get to the point where he's a threat to be the Democratic nominee. I think he needs a Joe. Oh Biden booder judge and Amy Klobuchar to fade right so he becomes a standard otherwise. You're splitting up that left center. Vote to three ways you know we saw it happened in. Sixteen trump didn't start getting over forty percent of the vote pretty deep in the calendar. Now they have winner. Take all but you had Cruz. Rubio casick basic all in the race and Jeb Bush deep into the calendar and they were able and that was sort of a different situation because they have winner take right winner-take-all one of the worries about this set of rules proportionate and it's sort of complicated by congressional districts is that you can end up in situation which just no one actually gets enough to get an outright the majority of the outright number you need to get the nomination so I'll say to. Let's talk about California California. Who the hell knows what's going to happen in California? But there's a scenario aware of give Biden is still in the race and competing and Warren is and Mayor Pitas and claw which are and Bloomberg takes the stage on March third. What if all five of those are getting twelve fourteen? Mm Fifteen Gabbard Yang Star. Get A few. That's like sixty percent of the vote. Sixty five percent vote. So let's say Bernie's that one getting thirty thirty five he could net over one hundred. Delegates gets out of California loan so the question is will so what I'm hearing from you. If you're from a purely analytical perspective there's a universe in which which if you were thinking about the delegate math for Sanders you want that field to stay pretty crowd. Oh Yeah you want a lot of company and I think there's a sense that okay. We Have New Hampshire tomorrow night then Nevada then South Carolina. Then we get the Super Tuesday and then the rest of March like the clock is not just ticking. It's almost midnight really as it relates to the delegates in less basically Bernie and one other candidate. I guess there's a Snook Bernie to carrots or just splitting everything up to your point. Yeah it's possible that we're going to have somebody who doesn't have the majority of pledged delegates. I believe that whoever is for Audi leader unless literally it's a delegator to somebody has a fifty to one hundred. We're really going to take the nomination away from them in Milwaukee the party recovers that for decades. I completely agree with that right. Like if you go into the convention with a plurality lead the idea that convention being sorry sorry thanks for playing. Thanks planning. We're just GONNA into party. Bosses have decided the person who got the most delegates is now nominee like parties. Don't recover from that for a long time. Do you think the the other sort of aspect of this in terms of people staying in the race right when we talk about momentum. It's a kind of weird ephemeral term. But what it really means often in his fundraising right like you need certain performances to then go raise money than stay in for the next week and go up on the air. I mean for folks like say Amy Klobuchar or She's sort of the perfect one because she sort of in this space right now is that you can see the momentum means for her it does but I think it's a faulty metric work we've got donald trump looming he's literally half block down the street bellowing and if he wins a second term. Will we recover from. But I think it's an open question so we need to beat them. So if you do well momentum so you can raise money. But you don't have credible chance to be the Democratic nominee. I think the people have easy for me to save on a campaign. You gotta get off the stage at the end. Let the people who actually can win battle it out because his advantage money technology positioning the field position. His presidency is such an event. Incumbents tend not to lose George H W Bush lost to Bill Clinton but had he treated his campaign more seriously AAC. I don't think he would've. He was awesome the teeth of recession. But even with that you know so I think we have to understand. That trump has the advantages of incumbency. We've never seen somebody with this much money. I mean the the Atlantic story that came out last week about their billion dollar disinformation campaign. Tell people to read the Atlantic. You know you should read it because it's what we're up against. It is sophistication from the digital marketing side. We've never seen in American politics so my view is maybe you have some money. Maybe you can come in third third place get some delegates. If you can't win I would urge the media focus on that who has a credible chance from a delegate standpoint to be the democratic now so what I'm hearing from you is it just just sort of a reality check sense like posting a bunch of twelve or thirteen or fourteen percent performances. Just doesn't particularly the deeper you go does not amount to essentially essentially a credible chance at a delegate leap. It's better than getting four and being in fifth place route. You can feel good when you get out but yeah I mean particularly when we get on March third basically between March third and March seventeenth most of the country votes. Most of the delegates get awarded. So you're not accumulating the number of delegates particularly if you believe there's not going to be brokered convention where somebody who's not the delegate leader can come in on the fifth ballot okay. That's highly unlikely. Yeah I think I'm with you on that. I'm actually glad you said that because I think it sort of an important point David plot.
"chris hayes" Discussed on All In with Chris Hayes
"Of the senator king the most charitable interpretation. This set of facts is basically that no one takes seriously and everyone's trying to pawn them off on someone else and everyone's everyone's kind of yes. Boston trump about this but this really does. This is the president's personal attorney funneling the very dirt over which he was impeached over Directly Department of Justice. Is that okay. You know. It's not okay. There's a whole structure. There's a State Department Thera MBASSADOR. There's the Department of Justice and the idea that the personal attorney is is doing this kind of work. I thought frankly. One of the most damning pieces of the famous phone call which wasn't perfect Was the mention of Rudy Giuliani. If it was all about corruption generally or about burden-sharing are all the things the White House counsel talked about during the trial. Why did the President say eight to the president of Ukraine talked to Rudy? Talk to Rudy. Giuliani was a great mayor. It's a IT'S A. It's he's on his own mission it doesn't involve US US policy. It doesn't involve the national interest of the United States. It's a it's a political errand as somebody said and And the fact that that he's now being sort of welcomed into the end of the Justice Department is pretty disturbing. Do you had warned about the consequences of an acquittal. Vote against the president particularly in in terms of how he would take that signal and use continue to abuses authority. We've seen him now. Fire Not just Alexander van men who testified hide under subpoena but also his brother and there's been no cause given for why his brother was also marked out of the White House as well as Gordon's Onlin who forced does serve at the pleasure from the president but clearly. It was retribution for his testimony. Now we're seeing Lindsey Graham Dogma Guiliani being touch with Bart what do you make of the first week and a half or so after that acquittal in terms of how it lines up with what your worries are or were about what signaled president would receive. Well I think one of the most worrisome things and in the in the Trial the the president's lawyers kept talking about the elections are the solution are the. Let's wait for the elections. The problem is the offense that was at the heart of this was finagling the election meddling in the election. That's coming up and what bothered me. was that the president has expressed not a whiff of remorse not any indication that he has any idea that he did anything wrong and what that means this. He's liable to keep doing it. I mean there's there's very little likelihood that he feels chastened or somehow You know he'll change his conduct and and we're headed into an election election and he's already said he would welcome help from other countries And this this is now. Let Me Chris let me back up a step up from this. The really worrisome thing about what happened last week is a long term implications because our country is based on the principal of divided power. That's what the constitution is. All about. It puts power all over the place in the Congress in the two houses in the presidency and the states and the the whole idea. The principle is a concentration of power in one set of hands is dangerous and the Congress in my view has been committing omitting kind of slow motion suicide for the past seventy years. We've essentially given up the war power expressly in the constitution for the Congress. We've given up the trade power. The president now you know imposes tariffs on Canada for Lord Sake on our neighbors on his own unilaterally. Last year we let him take money out of out of the appropriations bill that Congress had passed through the proper processes he basically said. I don't like your priorities authorities. I want to build my wall. I'M GONNA take three and a half billion dollars out of yours and put it toward the wall and then last week. We basically said a president can in stonewall Congress entirely in an impeachment proceeding which essentially renders the impeachment clause nullity It just eviscerates it. It and the implication is what about ordinary oversight. The point I'm trying to make is that power is migrating from Congress to the president and last week it didn't migrate it leaped and that's what's really in the long term concerning maybe the president trump won't abuse it. Certainly history is not in. Doesn't reassure us on that front but what about I'm worried about five. Ten Twenty twenty years from now and You know like I say the the framers set up this complicated structure on purpose and by the way presidents aren't grabbing the power. Our congresses advocating it. And this is what bothers me so much about what happened. Last week all right Senator Angus King of the State.
"chris hayes" Discussed on All In with Chris Hayes
"Any my podcast is about what it takes to get the nomination. Six episodes six timeless themes that separate the few winners from the many losers. This campaign was was and will remain the great honor of my life. So you WANNA be President with Chris Matthews and MSNBC podcast search now wherever you're listening and subscribe episode so for available now. Republican senators actually tried to intervene and stop the Friday night massacre which the president fired witnesses. Who testified against against him in the clearly a retribution for doing so an almost definitely in violation law and then we? The president's personal attorney has an Entree Trade Department of Justice. Senator Lindsey Graham told us on live. TV is receiving information coming out of the Ukraine from Rudy. Already to see. He told me that they've created a process that rudy could give information and they would see his verified. God okay that's weird and then today Attorney General Bill Maher confirmed that yes indeed rudy. Giuliani the man who is currently under investigation and by the same DOJ and who's two associates attempted to get the whole Biden investigation started are now facing prosecution. That Rudy Giuliani is funneling information directly directly Justice Department really looks like a quasi authoritarian compromising of the prosecutorial authority of set government. Joining me now is the center. Who's been very outspoken? About the president's lawless moved to consolidate power angus king independent.
"chris hayes" Discussed on All In with Chris Hayes
"Come to you with additional optimism because look at twenty seventeen look at twenty eighteen. Look at twenty nineteen. What do they all have in common? Democrats wanted scale. There were fifteen democratic governors when I took over at the DNC. There are twenty four for now we now have speaker. Nancy Pelosi the most influential impactful speaker in American history. The we have flipped ten legislative chambers from red to blue. We have the majority of State Attorneys as General folks. We can do this. We've been doing it. And then look at last November last November in Kentucky and in Louisiana the end. Those governor's races. Donald Trump put himself on the ballot in a state that he won by thirty points. Chris Thirty points he couldn't drag Matt Bevin across the finish line. Same thing in Louisiana John. Bel Edwards won reelection. What was the common denominator later in these elections healthcare? We feel that great candidates. We've talked about the issues that matter most so then there's the history. Yeah One more thing if I could you said something and I want to underscore. Today's budget budgets are moral documents documents. They reflect the values of whatever the governing body is here. A president who wants to cut Medicare Medicaid and social security who wants to chop EPA by twenty six percent that reflects the moral decay of this administration. The lies of this administration. Listen we're going to win because we're going to organize talk about all these issues so I want to. I don't want to Belabor what happened in Iowa but I do feel important important to ask a simple question which is who is responsible for it and what will be done to hold the people responsible for account because I don't think there was any granted grand nefarious conspiracy but clearly there was pretty horrible screw ups here and it feels like there's been no clear accounting of them so far well let me be very clear. We all fell short. While the Iowa party administers the election. We provide help. We have a partnership with our state parties. We're all in this together. We all succeed together and when we fall we fall together and we fell short. And I'm here to say I apologize for that. I know that Up The chair of the Iowa Democratic Party. There's nobody more disappointed than price. We're learning from our mistakes we have. We're counting Ballots in one hundred and forty three precincts that were requested. The Party will get that done. It will get that done soon and it will get done right and what we're doing is we're learning from that that we already have a team of people on place in place in Nevada working with a spectacular party and a spectacular array talk of talented people to learn from that mistake and so one thing. I've learned presses on a good day. Never get too giddy on a bad day. Never get to down. We had a couple of bad days last week. Undeniably and you know what there are a lot of good days ahead of US including two hundred and sixty five days from now when we win the presidency. Think limit. Let me ask you about another decision. The DNC recently made the ANC changed the qualifying metrics for presidential debates. It removed the requirement of a certain amount of small dollar donations. Clearly because Michael Bloomberg is never going to qualify under that rubric because he's not taking any donations but he's now polling in a position where it looks like he will qualify. There are some people who say you basically said you couldn't change the rules. You couldn't do a climate debate. You couldn't do this yes you can do that. And then you didn't change the rules to accommodate this one billionaire in the race. What is your response to that? That's not correct and let me explain back in in October or so I- outlined where we would go. After voting began a year ago. We were looking for what I call proxies proxies for what would get somebody on the debate stage and we had a polling. Both polling alone wouldn't be enough Chris because polling a year out measures little little more than name ID and so we added a grassroots fundraising threshold. which I think was a spectacular innovation and I hope it is always here for cycles to come but what I also said that back then and again? This fall is when people start voting the best proxy for who you should be on the debate stage. We'll be the polling at the time of voting plus people who have accumulated delegates so we now have a two tiered threshold sold if you have no less than ten percent if you have ten percent or more or you get at least one delegate tomorrow in New Hampshire or last week in Iowa you make the debate stage. My job is to make sure that the most viable candidates as measured by those two measures I ran the debate stage and I've heard people who have said it's not fair. Why should somebody be able to buy their way through self-funding under the debate stage and I would say two things to that Chris Number one we will have in our platform campaign finance reform overturning citizens united absolutely but until Phil then these are the rules and fortunately you have a remedy if you are concerned about how anyone got on the debate stage go vote? That is your ultimate remedy and people are going to be voting in droves in New Hampshire in just a few hours and our job is to make sure our job that is to make sure that people can kick the tires on the candidates all right. Tom Perez Chair of the Democratic National Committee. Thank you for making some.
"chris hayes" Discussed on All In with Chris Hayes
"He's a bigot. He is a liar. He's a narcissist but above all else from the day that he inherited inherited his daddy's business and much of his fortune. He has been a con. Man You could ask nearly anyone who's ever done business with the guy that's fundamentally what he is that's his core. It's a con man and the Word Con man is actually short for confidence man because the way that conman pulls off the CON is by gaining people's confidence confidence and getting people to do what he wants to do. Right gains your trust. He fools you into thinking he someone you can say. Trust with your money or your well all being or your country by the way the original confidence man was this a New Yorker. It was the guy who go up to strangers on the street pretending that he knew them and strike up a conversation and then ask them if they had the trust or confidence to let them hold their watch and they would and he would just walk away with the watch and that is basically the way. Donald Trump operates trump is trying to do that right now. The key message for Democrats coming off last week and as he's there across the street at the Rally Ali is do not fall for the Khan remember a majority of the country still opposes this man. They have opposed him for all of his tenure. It's almost unprecedented. In the history of modern polling. He lost the popular vote by three million votes. He was the beneficiary of not one but at least two completely illegal conspiracies. He's to help him get elected one by the Russian government the other to cover up multiple fares pulled off by his attorney apparently his direction. And and that's not to mention James Comey and what he did during the last two weeks of the election and with all of that all of that help all those thumbs pressing down the scale. He seeks out a seventy seven thousand thousand vote margin across three states that gives them electoral college victory and even now after one of his best weeks of polling. He's polling probably where the president should be higher than to win reelection. He's only forty four percent. I mean heck a majority of the country not only disapproves him a majority wanted the United States Senate to kick the guy out of office. That's not saying that he's going to be defeated right. I'm not making a prediction here. But the idea that this is some terrifyingly popular juggernaut is just not borne out by the facts. The problem of course is that everyone so traumatized by two thousand sixteen. I mean I remember being here for years ago. I sometimes think of the conversation I would have with my twenty six year old cell sitting here Manchester about what was about to come and nobody were a lot of people thought that he could not win. But you've got to be really clear about what the present situation is. The President of course does have a chance to be elected. He is the incumbent president so of course he can win. We know that of course you can win. He can also be beat and I get the frustration and hopelessness among some Democrats. They look at the president. They think. How does anyone still support this guy after all this? How does anyone still support this guy? And and they see and hear is unhinged speeches and we'll get lowlights later on and as insulting banality and his corruption and they wonder how anyone could possibly want four more years of this. Just the other day there was a story about how he's bilking the federal government to the tune of six hundred and fifty dollars a night for the secret service that has to follow him when he goes to his own properties public. Money right in this pocket and that was like a one day story and I get it that drives people nuts right like what will bring him down but put all that aside from also true that Donald Trump agenda at its core is the Republican. Party's agenda and that that agenda is really unpopular today gave us eight amazing fantastic stick example of this courtroom. So He's riding high on his best week. Ever forty four percent right. And what does he do. He puts out a the budget with more than a trillion dollars in cuts to Medicare and Medicaid and social security and the affordable care act and the budget also serves as a reminder that Oh yeah by the way save you. Ministration is in court right now as I speak to you trying to destroy the root and branch up everyone's health insurance in one swoop and and the ACA by the way is also ten points more popular than the president himself is administration gutted the Clean Water Act which guess what. Aw People love clean water. This is not rocket science the politics of it. They played ways to environmental regulations. They put coal lobbyists in charge of the EPA and are now proposing to cut the budget of the EPA as today by twenty six percent cut.