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Fresh update on "charles manson" discussed on Chicago's Afternoon News
"My favorite record. Asked the Lonely 1965 Motown got to number nine on the R and B charge 24 on the pop charts with their second top 10 on the R and B charts. But right after that next record, they put out maybe I need your lovin was just just well, that was the first one actually, but is can't help myself. Sugar Pie, Honey Bunch, That's what broken open for them Big time but 51 years ago, right now, they were playing the Bronx Gaelic Park. It was a triple bill with David Ruffin and the Chiffons. On the same day, Richard. Well, Richard was over in Central Park sharing a bill with I think Check mates Limited. Sonny Charles is yes, indeed. So all right, But we're we're reminiscing about a different subject entirely right now, But I I tell you as macabre as it is, and as awful as the details. Maybe it still is. Maybe because it is so stunning. Maybe for other reasons in the human psyche, But it is just fascinating to most of us. Manson exposed is the book either Davis books dot com. The author, of course, is Ivor Davis, who is considered to be a Manson expert. And I gotta ask you fiber. I bet you never thought you'd live to be a Manson expert. How did that come about? But you know, it's weird when I hear you say that because the problem is I know so much about the case because from day one they won, which was August, the ninth. 1969 When I went along to the house that I realized very quickly was was rented by Sharon Tate and her husband, Roman Polanski, and then all the gruesome details of the murders leaked out or came out slowly as we stood outside the gates of this house. From the very first and then, of course, being fascinated by this four full awful crime. I ended up visiting the Spahn movie Ranch. Where Charles mention and this crazy cobalt live. And then I went to the trial covered the trial over the years, Thiss case fascinate me, and I think it fascinated the world and I ended up talking to so many people and ended up a pending this This new book Manson exposed, which is a 50 year journey into I say Mad madness. Murder and it's here and I'm I'm stuck with it. You know, it's interesting because as you look at Charles Manson's history when you look at the rap sheet and all that and you know, starting from his birth to an illegitimate birth to a teenager, and then Who was driven off drinking and he's in reform school, and he's burglarizing when he's a young teen and all this you read all that. And then you get to the part of his band of followers. What I want to know. And maybe maybe you still don't know because I'm never figured this out. Exactly what was it about him? And it's more than charisma that enticed people to not not only follow him but to commit some of the most heinous murders. How did he pull that off? Well, First of all, you've got to realize he was a as you pointed out a product. Are they a walk child? His mother went to jail. You never knew his father, and there's a terrific series on on them. Ethics channel that I watched last night and I'm actually in it. So this is a little bit of of additional, but but it tells you the way that mentioned grew up and When I watched it last night. He could have gone the other way. But he didn't And then when he went, as you said, into reform scores, and he would be treated there, it just got with the only way that survive in reform stores in juvenile Hall and then in prisons was too Corneas way. He was a terrific con man. Andi learned. We learned that that was the only method to survive, getting beaten the hell out of him by bigger prisons. Because Manson was a small, wimpy guy of about Fied 354, and he knew that the only way to survive was to be a nun. Loud mouth, but a guy that could turn things are on their side and persuade people not beat the hell out of him. And then he. Then he went to prison and read some self help books. A news that too on the girls and don't forget back in the sixties, there were drugs. There was LSD. There was discontent. Many young women where I'm happy at home, and somehow some of them challenge mention and decided that he was big guru on he very cleverly could meet a girl on within 30 minutes. Tell her what was wrong with her? What was right with her what she needed to do And she wass. She was smitten. That's what happened to many of these young women. A Charlie just collected them like other people collect stamps. Yeah, it's just so hard for me to grok this that here's this guy is an 18 year old. He's raping, sodomizing boys in prison, holding razors to their throats and then When he finally gets released in 67. He doesn't want to get released. He wants to stay in there and I like you say he's certainly not an imposing figure physically, And so then I have I have to go with There had to be something dramatically wrong with his followers. And I guess abusers know how to pick them. But a Sze yu look att his followers. Was there. Anybody in that crop? Who, after looking at all of this surprised the heck out of you. I'm going to pick it up right there. Give me a moment to think out of that on. Some of them were absolutely while insanity is probably just too mild a word, But anybody who you would have never expected that this one would have fallen. If you've got any questions we'd love to have you join us 8888765593. That's 88 88 r o l l y e I'm Rolli James. It's w g n radio. For every little kiss. There's a little tear. For every single really There's another hardy road is a road going gets tough, Yes. Irwin, you're in King.
Culture Cults Week
"This week's theme comes to us from Sean Abraham Preston and is called culture colts. Here's why Sean chose this theme. He writes. Hi. I'm Sean Abraham Preston and the theme I chose is culture. Cults Chose the theme because I'm fascinated with Howard devotion to new cultural ideals can cross over into spirituality in the worship of other people oftentimes with dark consequences. Were especially vulnerable to this when we're searching for meaning in Tumultuous Times of change. Like twenty twenty, for example. Here, are the episodes chosen by Sean for this week's theme along with short descriptions of each episode. The first one comes to us from the podcast strangers and is called the sun the Goddess Leopoldo. It's forty six minutes long. Here's the description. Born in a coven of lesbian witches in a Haight Ashbury commune after the fall of Saigon Young Joshua Safran soon hit the open road with his single mother and things only got stranger from there. A. Word of warning this story contained some disturbing moments. The next episode comes to us from. You must remember this is called Charles Manson's Hollywood part three, the beach boys, Dennis Wilson and Charles Manson Songwriter. It's forty seven minutes long. Here's the description. In this episode, we'll talk about Charlie Manson's arrival in Los Angeles. We'll discuss Dennis Wilson's life and the role he played in enabling Manson's rock and roll delusions, and we'll explain how the beach boys came to record a song written by Charles Manson. The next episode comes to us from friends of the friend called the beautiful cripple part one. It's forty nine minutes long. Marilyn Manson fan and a Silicon Valley's tech, Colt Cross paths in an adventure that ends in supernatural sex and murder. The next episode comes to us from Decoder Ring and is called the basement affair. It's forty three minutes long. Here's the description. What are the real reasons people go on reality? TV. This episode follows the story of an Hirsch and Kathy Nardone two women cast on VH1's Frank. The entertainer in a basement affair a show about an adult man looking for love while living in his parent's basement. How did one performance artists and one accidental performance artists make it onto the show and how did they behave once they made it their. Their story highlights the ways that reality television distorts narratives, obscures intentions, and stereotypes women, yet it's still irresistible to audiences and performers like. The last episode of the week comes to us from invisible era and is called the end of empathy. It's fifty two minutes long. Here's the description. In. Is a show that runs on empathy we believe in it, but are we right? In this episode, we'll let you decide. We tell you the same story twice in order to examine the questions who deserves our empathy and is there a wrong way to empathize? Those are the episodes chosen by Sean for this week's theme Culture Colts.
Board Recommends Parole for Manson Follower Leslie Van Houten
"Has recommended parole for Charles Manson follower Leslie Van Hatton, who has spent nearly five decades in prison. The recommendation was made Thursday, but Governor Newsome could decide to deny it. Newsome block to release once before than his predecessor, Jerry Brown, blocked it twice. Manhattan is serving Ah life sentence for helping Charles Manson. Others kill Los Angeles grocer Lino LaBianca and his wife, Rosemary in 1969 that Helen was 19 when she and other members of the Manson family stabbed the La Bianca is to death and smear the couple's blood on the walls, writing words like helter skelter and death to pigs. An
"charles manson" Discussed on Nopeville
"Because he thought it was a good balance between the female and male kind of powerhouses of the sixties and stuff right so I'm like. There's actually even South Park Christmas. Episode Oh Wow. Called Merry Christmas Charlie Manson. God in which stands uncle breaks out of prison, and brings his cellmate Charles Manson to Christmas dinner. Guns and roses did a cover of Manson songs. They're kind of like on untitled albums, and then in two thousand nineteen. There is a very inappropriate horror movie starring Hilary Duff, and it essentially made a movie based off of how sharing tate died. Oh! Such an insensitive thing and came out last year Oh. That's even worse yeah the anniversary of the deaths Oh. And yet N Deborah. When she. When she was asked about it, she was just I. Don't WanNa talk about that movie. Because it was such a not yet, it was like someone appropriate in your Fairly has nineteen percent rotten tomatoes. Surprising I'm just letting you guys know if you WanNa wash movie, don't. Let's not like some of the candy, but if they wanted to, that is true. Don't. Don't lose. It tells you. And, then one last little tidbit, it was featured in the cult series of American. Horror Story Oh yeah, then there's a whole list more movies books. TV shows just this guy just like. wiggled his way into pop culture even now. which a lot of a lot of people kind of commented on even back then like it just seemed like everything he was doing. He was trying to stay in the public eye. Yeah, everything he did it. Make sense trying to remain somehow relevant in someway. Also semi tangentially related. Sometime later the that was on Manson's forehead. He turned it into a permanent swastika. Why and he said the mark on my head simulates the dead head, black stamp of rejection, anti-church, falling cross double sign, death terror fear. Sure all right. I'm just wanted to make a statement. I, mean literally everything he did. Though yeah, so that's her really long episodes on Charles Manson. Yeah, sorry about that. There was no logical way to split this up. Hopefully, you're still here. You know you saved it for later. Yeah, and you learn something young. We always hope to teach you something yes. If you liked your tour today. Go ahead and leave us a review on wherever you book your tour today. You can visit our website at nope. Ville PODCAST DOT COM..
"charles manson" Discussed on Nopeville
"The police rated spun ranch, not looking for murderers. Arrested Manson and other members of the family on suspicion of running an auto theft ring. Because there is a technical error in the warrant. They were all released a few days later. Yeah. They went there looking for stolen Dune buggies. Yeah Yep Yep. Not even knowing that they fucking communities brutal murders. Yeah, but. They were able to like. Play it off as they're not guilty enough to be able to re released like any other person with a normal conscience would have been freaking the fuck out. About the police, just showing up at your compound, but they're all like fucking sociopaths. They have no empathy and they're just like most all on drugs, so that to. Maybe they don't remember what they did. So Manson went back to the ranch, looking for someone to blame for the raid of course and Manson chose a ranch hand named Donald Shorty Shea. Remember the he was killed around August twenty fifth, so a few weeks later after the raid Manson. Bruce, Davis and Stephen. Grogan were arrested for the murder of shorty right and it actually wasn't until like nineteen. Nineteen seventy seven that Stephen Grogan confess where the body was Irqah well, so Manson and the family left Spahn ranch after that and moved to Barca ranch in death valley. were. It was also eventually rated. Manson and other family members were arrested for murder and sentenced to death. Now that you've ruined the outcome of the trial. Totally didn't know spoiler. Alert GONNA. Talk about the trial. So the trial began on July Fifteenth Nineteen seventy with Charles Manson, being tried for the murder and co-defendants Leslie Van Houten Susan Atkins and Patricia Krenwinkel. On the first day of testimony July Twenty Fourth Manson appeared in court with x carved into his forehead. which he claimed to have done saying I have X. Myself from your world. He canceled himself. Canceled Culture can't come canceling muscle canceling missile from your world. I don't exist. Can't try me. Exist. What are your lawbooks? Say about that. Totally would never sound like that ever well I don't know He. He was a free thinker, just out loud. His co-defendants appeared the next day with their ex carved into their foreheads. Okay, so already just playing right into the fact that they blindly follow everything he does. They do it themselves, or did he do? They did it themselves? I e. Okay so throughout the trial Manson and his co-defendants would interrupt and mock proceedings to the extent that they were repeatedly removed from. To be forced to listen to the testimonies being given from elsewhere in the courtroom. Courthouse. But in interviews with the girls, you know much later in time. They said that he would actually tell them what to do. To disrupt proceedings that day. Wow, yeah, so every day was just scripted way of disrupting everything. That's weird. Was He planning on getting from that? I would assume just dragging it out. Yeah, just postponing the inevitable. Of the death sentence, or maybe you tried to go for some kind of sanity. Thing. I don't know..
"charles manson" Discussed on Nopeville
"So he said quote I was using the symbol of helter skelter as a ride from the top to the bottom, the rise and fall of the Roman Empire, and this was the fall the demise. The going down right which I mean I mean, yeah, I could see how Manson would have gotten that if that's Paul McCartney had originally intended. Yeah I mean they literally intended for it to be. The society's coming to an end. Yeah, in a helter skelter sort of way. And that's what he read. Yeah, a lot of the other. The other Beatles members had things to say about it like John Lennon was like kids. These days are always looking for meanings in our lyrics It has nothing to do with that. People are always reading between the lines and stuff like that so. Yes and so I'M GONNA. Talk about the murder victims now and before I get into how they died I wanted to kind of background on who they were as people. Right because their name was just Kinda went down in history as like these gruesome like murders, with by the Manson family and I just want to kind of give you a little bit of who they actually were. Give him the respect as the list of people who died and pretty much. Yes pretty much. All these articles like Manson family murder victims I'm like they were people yes. Victims, they most certainly and like they all like had their place in Hollywood like old Hollywood. So the first victim Sharon tate. She was born in Dallas Texas on January. Twenty, fourth, nineteen, forty three, she was a model and actress who was known for her roles, jaded, recurring role in the beverly hillbillies her first. Major role in a movie was I of the Devil. And she was also co starring with her future husband Roman Polanski in the fearless vampire, interesting yeah, and then one of her breakout roles was valley of the dolls during her audition for the fearless vampire. Actually, that's when she met Polanski. Because? He was the director and Co Star. Yeah at the time. However, she was dating JC bring. No and he is actually one of the other murder victims awhile. I'll tell you stayed friends. Yes, so actually when Sharon wanted to break up with Jay, so she could be with Polanski. Jay Actually flew to London to try to fight for her. Oh my goodness out! I. With after meeting Polanski, he decided he liked him and he was a good guy. Oh Yeah and gave sharing his blessing, because Sharon was just like head over heels for Polanski and then Jay was like. He's a good guy, and then after that the three were just really good friends. Yeah in one, thousand, nine, hundred, Sixty, eight. Sharon Tate in Roman Polanski married in London and she became pregnant shortly after that. And then they rented the House the infamous House on Cielo. Drive that no longer exists that no longer exists..
"charles manson" Discussed on Nopeville
"And your young until if you're a teenager. Still Live with your parents. Let's either apparent or an ex-boyfriend. With you being young enough. You were probably thrown out by your parents yet so. Yes she. I guess it's safe to say that. She was enamored from the start. And from video interviews I've seen cheese most certainly still enamored with the man like she gets a little sparkle in her eye and smiles at the mention of him. Yeah, it's scary and she's like what in her sixties now yeah! I think so for her. Though life improved dramatically once she became a part of the Manson family because he was able to escape from the frightening household where she was treated like A. A wrongdoer by her father, so Manson very quickly became like father figure for her like I think he did for a lot of other girls. Yeah, a lot of the girls were really young like you said yeah, so the core members of his group included his right hand Lynette squeaky from Charles Tex Watson Robert Beausoleil. Mary Burner, who I believe was actually the first person he took it and she was a librarian. Inch Susan Atkins Linda Abyan Patricia Krenwinkel and Leslie Van Houten. So the Group of about twenty five young people settled on abandoned movie set called spawns movie ranch, nineteen, sixty eight. Every member had their role to play. The more attractive women were kind of sent out to take advantage of men surprise surprise considering he used to prostitute other girls yeah, squeaky was the group's den mother, so she was sort of like the motherly figure. She was always kind of like there to take care of people and stuff like that. And Pat was sort of enforcer she if anybody was questioning whether they should be there or if they wanted to stay or if they were trying to get out, there would be sent to her, and she would somehow kind of convince them that it. You know it was okay to stay made them. So former members also state that Manson would offer them LSD, so they were constantly tripping. And tell them to take it, but would either never partake of it himself, or he would take much smaller doses to kind of maintain his own lucidity interesting, but is it really that surprising because he could make them more successful? Yeah, say that kind of plays into the control aspect where. Like all you as tripping, I'm not so I, can make you do nervous i. want you to yeah, so he was always kind of preaching to them in his own way of just like you know his bizarre I say thoughts, but like he would say things that to them because they were under the influence, just like prophetic like you know, time didn't exist. Before man came around man invented time. Mind like go shit. I can't believe I never thought of that before. So yeah, that makes a lot of sense for how he was able to like manipulate an influence them that they were just constantly in a state of high. And such a large group and it was so you know it was so rampant at the time..
"charles manson" Discussed on Nopeville
"Yeah, so his mother spent plenty of time locked up as I mentioned before for various reasons like assault, robbery and grand larceny. Yep there's a bit of an alcoholic as well. It sounds like she spent quite a bit of time at alcoholics. Anonymous a non no, no, no, no. Enemy. So thanks to her stints in prison. Charlie spent most of his life in and out of different institutions, or with his aunt and uncle by the age of nine Manson set his school on fire. And before the age of thirteen, he was getting in trouble for truancy and petty theft put like. Isn't that something? We all wish we could do. And he had gut. It actually do it. Just took it upon himself was like you know what everybody says they want to burn. Was Doing Aquino what slow! Yeah burn down the ORLEANS. KITCHEM at the age of thirteen. Charlie was placed in the guilt Catholic school for boys. In Terre, Haute, INDIANA the school would punish students breaking even the smallest of rules. And those punishments included beatings with either a wooden pallet or leather strap well then. Twice, Manson attempted to run away from this place the first time being returned by his own mother after Christmas, but the second time he successfully made it to Indianapolis where he committed his first known crime robbery of a grocery store, which he was originally doing just to get food, but then he discovered I think a cigar box full of money and took that to get himself a place to stay and some. Some more food right after this. He tried to go straight for awhile and got a job delivering messages for Western Union but it wasn't long before he was resorting to petty theft again to get some extra money. By nineteen, forty nine, he was caught and sent to boys town, which is juvenile facility in Omaha Nebraska, but within days he and another student Blackie Nielsen obtained a gun and stole a car. Charlie was about fifteen at this point. Two boys committed to armed robberies on their way to Nielsen's articles home in Peoria Illinois turns out. Nelson's uncle is a professional thief who allegedly took them on as apprentices. Charlie was arrested again two weeks later in the night. He wasn't a very good apprentice apparently. Wasn't a very good teacher could be a little bit of both. A yeah, I'm willing to bet on that. No not. So two weeks later, he was cotton arrested in a nighttime raid of a store and was lucky enough to also have his previous two armed robberies tied to him. Did he have like the same Mo then? I don't know it didn't say oh. Yeah like Howard. How are they tying those together? FIGURE OUT him. must he must have had the same amount like he must have been like the same or. fessed up yes. Yeah after this. He was sent to a strict reform school the Indiana Voice School, where he was allegedly raped by other students at the encouragement of a staff member, what the foot and also repeatedly beaten okay, so this led him developing his own self defense technique at the school when he was physically unable to defend himself, he called this technique the insane game. And, he would screech. Grivas wave his arms to convince his aggressors that he was insane. I've heard that that's ineffective is to. Yeah pretending to be absolutely insane. Because if you're unpredictable than people don't know how to react, yeah, especially, if you're screeching. Yeah, and waving your arms in the air like you just don't care. He attempted to escape the school total of eighteen times, but was finally successful in nineteen, fifty one when he got out to other boys. Okay, so he needed to people help the. The three of them made it as far as Utah by robbing filling stations in stealing cars, trying to get to California allow..
Russian President Vladimir Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov has been hospitalized for coronavirus
"Crowed of iris is reaching the highest levels of the Russian government a Kremlin spokesman is now among the more than two hundred thirty thousand people in Russia test positive and Paris Charles Manson's coronavirus cases in Russia are climbing president Vladimir Putin's longtime spokesman Dmitry Peskov now joins the list of Kremlin insiders who've tested positive for the corona virus in an interview with Russian state media Peskov said he was getting treatment in hospital and then the last met with Putin over a month ago and pose no risk to the Russian leader whose prime minister Mikhail misused and step down from his duties earlier this month after he contracted the virus so too has put as minister of culture and the head of Russia's state infrastructure projects despite the rise in infections inside the Kremlin and among the population at large Tuesday marked the end of a six week nationwide work stoppage it's now up to regional authorities to tailor their response in combating the outbreak Charles Maynes NPR news
Vladimir Putin's spokesman hospitalized with coronavirus infection
"Coronavirus is reaching the highest levels of the Russian government a Kremlin spokesman is now among the more than two hundred thirty thousand people in Russia test positive and Paris Charles Manson's coronavirus cases in Russia are climbing president Vladimir Putin's longtime spokesman Dmitry Peskov now joins the list of Kremlin and others who've tested positive for the corona virus in an interview with Russian state media Pascoe said he was getting treatment in hospital and then the last met with Putin over a month ago and pose no risk to the Russian leader whose prime minister Mikhail misused and step down from his duties earlier this month after he contracted the virus so too has put as minister of culture and the head of Russia's state infrastructure projects despite the rise in infections inside the Kremlin and among the population at large Tuesday marked the end of a six week nationwide work stoppage it's now up to regional authorities to tailor their response in combating the outbreak Charles Maynes NPR news
Cults Daily: "The Manson Family" Charles Manson
"Hi I'm Vanessa. Richardson and this is colts. Podcast original this is the fourteenth episode in our Daily Series on the strange prophecies made by different cults and their leaders throughout this month. Were taking a daily look at the myriad of apocalyptic predictions to try and uncover. What makes these revelations so appealing? I'm here with my co host. Greg Paulson everyone today. We're examining Charles. Manson a failed musician turned cult leader. Who CLAIMED TO BE JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF? He called his followers. The family in promise that they'd rule the post apocalyptic world after a massive race for destroyed civilization in the nineteen sixties. Charles Manson was an aspiring musician living in Los Angeles but unlike other music Aficionados Manson didn't just love pop for its beats and lyrics. Rock and roll hits spoke to him literally. Manson reportedly believe that songs like the Beatles skelter contained hidden references to a coming race war. Although the tune is actually about a whirling amusement park ride Manson took it to mean that a war between people and white people would destabilise American society. The fight would culminate in a vicious slaughter. According Manson black people would kill every white person in the United States except for him and his followers. Who would ride out the combat in an underground bunker? At the end of the battle Manson's cult called the family would emerge and rule over the survivors. Atlantic says all this sounds. Manson was a master manipulator. The family fully believed as claims about the coming war as well as his assertions that he was. Jesus Christ unquestioningly. They prepared for the prophesied apocalypse. Manson insisted that the fighting would break out any day. But by the summer of nineteen sixty nine there was still no race war in America hoping to get things moving. He ordered his followers to murder. The white residents of one zero zero five zero Cielo drive. They did so just after midnight on August ninth then dressed the crime scene to make it look like the militant black. Panthers had committed the homicide the next night he ordered his followers to kill Lino and Rosemary Labianca a couple living on waverly drive after the murders Manson pocketed rosemary's wallet hoping to Lebed in a predominantly black Los Angeles neighborhood and point suspicion toward the People. Who lived there but the police weren't fooled. They were aware of the family and rated Manson's compound numerous times for thefts by winter. They've made the connection between the Doomsday. Cult and the spate of Los Angeles killings in December Manson and several followers were arrested and tried for the Tate Labianca killings on January twenty fifth nineteen seventy-one Charles. Manson was found
Luis Venegas on Print Media in an Age of Uncertainty
"Kind of Dream. Save like well someday. I will like to do my own magazine. And since the first one zero seven that was that was in two thousand four. I mean it's like a sixteen years ago and even blocks back event. Where can starting seeing so I mean for me? There was no option. Maybe if I was thinking about when amazing today new I will start with digit or something but at that time I mean black from that the next stage to remain starting little by little. I mean he wasn't something I am not also he wasn't the thing that I will related to the time so yeah. I tried to start and I made them less now. You see you say that if doing something now you imagine it might be digital but I think what I've always loved about what you do. Is that you you honor the magazine as the Phantom jet. You know when when when I think about the magazines that I when I left New Zealand in one thousand nine hundred seventy four. I had three suitcases and one of them was full of magazine and it was. It was like my favorite magazines. It was the life magazine. Charles Manson on the front and it was very the very first issue of Fabulous magazine with the Beatles on the front and it was a David Bowie. God knows they're actually the only ones that are in plastic. I mean everything else Everywhere but the actual physicality of magazine is something that you ana That you very deliberately set out to do with candy. Which was to take your subject. You'll the marginalized people that you wanted to focus on and give them the absolute multi Vogue Treatment Make Candy as glossy and gorgeous and in disposable as it possibly could be guests douglas. The the I mean I I the I mean. When I started to plan the Doing Candy I felt like it was. It should be something white up the opposite of Dr Magazine I wanted to be glossy on his DS huge celebration of all the subjects and although modest that I was hoping to treat in China amazing show. It's not about them. Tell us about. You'll you'll subjects yet. Well as candidate is focus on what I call the transversal. A people People many people I mean the people who know can be maybe often they think is a trans for transgender magazine. But it's not only about trans or transgender people is also an Rajini stays gender nonconformity people drag queens and also The gender people who suddenly go for transformation for one day for a shoot for fun so for me but was the. That's what Games Branka exactly. The BEBOP Franco puts on the coat. Or like it's for Spanish versus kind of ask you about that is so the thing is like I. I said All of those manifestations basically everything that was like Okay go fuck. Gender Denver doesn't matter. Let's celebrate everything. Well if matters of course but it doesn't matter in a way you know as like Let's focus on everything that has to be. Celebrate the around all those many stations. And that's how it came with bursts of grants because it means going from one place another transitioning going you know and then universal transversal. It felt like okay. Maybe this is the word in a way and That's the magazine focus on. I felt like fashion was for a long time taking inspiration from all the transversal world but never pay back. You know it never it never. I mean that was very all of these aren't by Conde. Dining was something about. The people didn't really know many people who can deduct it was maybe it wasn't obscure subject before especially the younger generations. Sheds Allegra K. Let's put it all together in a magazine. Let's see what happens. Let's see he's going to explode or survive? I don't know but you don't want it to be like a political steam or something like a political statement. I want it to be a celebration. Actually a celebration of style. A celebration of awesome intelligence way on humor and everything that's related to fashioning to celebrate the although stinks and indefinitely broad broadening. The concept abuse. See as well Just making beauty side much more of an inclusive idea taking the traditional fashion magazine approach to beauty and then just In
The Zodiac Killer Pt. 2
"The Zodiac killer contacted the California press for the first time in letters to three bay area papers. He claimed he'd already murdered three people and threatened to kill more. He also included a bizarre coded message which he demanded the papers publish. The papers did with Zodiac asked and a little more than a week later. The cipher was cracked by a couple from Salinas. They revealed a chilling taunting message from the Zodiac. About how much he loved to kill at the time. The term serial killer was not widely understood but it was nonetheless clear that the Zodiac was unique and dangerous kind of criminal. He craved publicity and infamy and he would go to any lengths to get it. It was a frightening proposition but knowing the Zodiacs hunger for fame also gave authorities some valuable insight into the killer's mind. Vanessa's going to take over on the psychology here and throughout the episode please note. Vanessa is not licensed psychologist or psychiatrist but she has done a lot of research for this show thanks Greg. Many people yearn for fame though not everyone actively seeks it. According to Dr Robert Fuller former president of Oberlin College. This is because power is unevenly distributed in society between. Somebody's and nobody's he writes. Nobody's are marginalized to the point of invisibility. Since humans are social creatures. Banishment carries a threat of being deprived of social and material resources critical to health and happiness and sometimes to survival itself. Fame promises an escape. This suggests that the Zodiac felt that becoming infamous would grant him power over others and would turn from a nobody to a somebody precisely the Zodiac. Was likely someone who felt marginalized in his everyday. Life seeking publicity and spreading. Panic might have made him feel more in control for a moment it looked like the Zodiac had gotten everything he desired his crimes. Were big news the talk of the nation but he was soon beaten that his own game on August eighth nineteen sixty nine the same day. His First Cypher was cracked his limelight was stolen by Charles Manson and his family after the brutal murder of five people including the pregnant actress. Sharon tate the Manson's were all the press. Could talk about. The celebrity of their victims granted the Manson family the edge over the Zodiac and this undoubtedly antagonized him to regain notoriety the Zodiac knew. He'd have to do something dramatic nearly two months later on September twenty seventh. He made his move that afternoon. Twenty Year Old Bryan Hartnell and twenty two year old. Cecelia shepard lay on a blanket by the shore of Lake Berry Sa. Brian and Cecilia had made the trip on a whim. They had previously dated but weren't together at the time under the shade of a large oak tree. They enjoyed each other's company and spoke quietly together around six PM. Cecilia noticed some movement in the trees nearby. Brian dismissed her worries. He initially assumed that another lake. Goer was relieving themselves in the woods as they were no bathrooms in the vicinity but he was wrong. Cecilia gassed as a strange man. Holding a pistol approach them from a few hundred feet away. The gun wasn't the only thing frightening about him. He wore some kind of long black hood over his face which extended down past his shoulders. On the man's chest. The symbol of guns crosshairs had been drawn the same symbol the Zodiac used to sign his letters. Neither Brian NOR CECILIA. Recognize the simple and had no idea they were face to face with a serial killer even so the gun and the outfit were more than enough to terrify. Cecilia. At around two hundred pounds and six feet he cut intimidating figure almost like a medieval executioner. Brian wasn't quite as scared as Cecilia. When the man I approached he assumed the getup was just a disguise stolen from a costume shop. Both he and Cecilia watched paralyzed as the man. Got Within seventy five feet of them when he stopped moving. Cecilia asked him what he wanted. The Stranger told them he was there to rob them and warn them against doing anything rash. Brian and Cecilia approached the man and gave him what money they had. Brian only had seventy five cents. But the stranger didn't seem too concerned. It a measured cold voice. He told Brian every little bit help then. He was quiet for a moment. It looked like the hooded man was thinking about what to say next without any provocation. He explained that he was an escaped convict from Montana. He claimed to be on the run to Mexico. Miraculously Brian was still relatively calm about the situation. He felt sure the man was only looking for their money. He hoped he could diffuse the tension by showing some kindness to the would be assailant in offered to write the check for some more money somewhat thrown by. Brian's offer the Zodiac clumsily. Refused his help at first when pressed he finally said he wanted. Brian's car keys. Brian searched for his case. Not sure if wade let them as he searched the Zodiac grew impatient and visibly anxious brain began to believe. The man was bluffing and casually asked if his gun was really loaded. The Stranger promised his gun was loaded and claimed he'd killed before then. He ordered Cecilia to Tie Brian. Up tossing her some clothes line from his pocket while she complied. Brian tried to talk to the stranger. A little more but only received a couple of terse answers the Zodiac Ben tied Sealy as hands in ordered both of them to lay face down so he could find their legs. Brian couldn't help protesting. It was getting dark around the lake and the temperature was getting lower in his mind. The Stranger had already gotten everything he wanted and couldn't understand why his legs had to be tied up the Zodiac pressed the gun into Brian's back and ordered him down again this time. Brian Obeyed and he and Cecilia late on the ground next to each other. Brian grimaced as the man hog tied him. He tried to keep a brave face for Sicilia but he was completely baffled by the situation. The stranger seemed so nervous and so careful. He didn't sound like the hardened criminal he claimed to be and yet he hadn't let down his guard throughout the encounter once the Zodiac has victims tied up. Brian's words no longer seem to have much effect when Brian asked if he was nervous. The Zodiac laughed. Brian followed up again. Asking if the gun was really loaded. The Zodiac Likely Hoping to finally terrify. His victim took the magazine out of the gun to show Brian the bullets. Then he holstered the weapon. It turned out he really hadn't been planning to shoot them instead. He'd brought a knife. Brian and Cecilia watched in horror as the hooded man. Pulled out a foot long blade from a sheath on his hips then without another word he jammed the knife into Brian's back
Quentin Tarantino Discusses 'Once Upon a Time in Hollywood'
"Popcorn where we talk about the movies and one of my favorite movies of this year this decade of forever called once upon a time in Hollywood directed by this guy. Quentin Tarantino thank. You very much really appreciate the decade Monica. Give that to to to a nine to a movie that falls on the nine. No but you have to do. Usually you're supposed to years go by but this movie speaks to people like me I I according to get the jokes jokes. They'll get a two when they see it. But it's a pleasure to have you here. It's good to geek out a little bit about about this movie. Which is now the BLU ray now? Yeah ended up coming out no extending the cat. It's still cut but we have about twenty minutes of extra stuff off talk about this. You know everybody has it on their best list and it's nominated for every single. Does that matter to you anymore. It's fun it's it's Nice. It's really wonderful to like actually do movie and then kind of be in that like winners circle of we were talking about just before the show started between between like the seven or eight movies people are talking about and to be invited to the different parties. And No. That's actually really fun. Like I've been there where I thought I had one of the best movies. And it's not in that roundup so it's actually nice to be in the mound up. I want to know what was the genesis of this one. What was the first thing? Not because he sat down and started to write it. When was this in your head? Well this was kind of a long process similar to other inglorious bastards where I kind of I had the idea as opposed to okay. I'm going to sit down and bang out this script. That wasn't really kind of the case. Here this was more kind of an exploratory kind of thing so there was a couple of years. I'm just kind of figuring out who the characters were and I wasn't in any hurry to sit down and write a movie script even like my very first couple years of writing on it. I wrote it as a novel or at least a couple of chapters as a novel in exploratory way. Then he even wrote that like the The Al Pacino seen in Musso and frank's that has one act play at one point and that because I was planning on doing it as a player even planning on doing. I didn't know how I was going to do it. But it was more an exploratory Tori writing exercise but the the initial I Guess Genesis of the whole thing was It was a while ago I was making a movie and I was dealing with a an older action. He kind of Guy Actor and I'm doing the film And then he comes to me and he goes you know Quinton I have a stunt double and he's been my stunt double for about nine years now now I haven't I'm a bust your balls about it because there's not really anything for them to do but there is a gag coming up on Thursday. He could do that so if if you wouldn't mind. Maybe we could be a nice thing to throw him something and he could come on Thursday and do that thing and that would be good good for me. and He's good you'll like like yeah. Sure no worries so Thursday rolls around and he shows up and he does a great job with this stunt nowhere but anyway the dais going on and part of the thing about about about their relationship is like you can tell it's been going on for nine years. You could tell that there was a time that this guy was the perfect double double for the actor perfect. You could've shot close ups with the stunt guy and they would have passed. This time was not that that child kind of grown in different directions. And and you could tell this was like maybe the last or second the last thing that they'd be doing together and I kind of glance over and I see the two of them sitting in a director's chairs on the set talking. They're smoking cigarettes and just shooting the breeze and and naturally since one guy is the stunt guy the other guy there actually both dressed an identical costumes. which is that's the relationship they do and like the stunt guy has got his hair done in a cockamamie way that resembles the actor? And they're both wearing the same costume and they're smoking cigarettes and watching them talk. And I'm I'm seeing the whole nine years of their relationship and I know that this is the tail end of it and I'm watching them talk and I'm like wow. These guys have been buddies for a long time and they've been working buddies and it's an interesting friendship because yes I'm sure it's a friendship but one is working for the others. There's a subservient this implied. And all that but you know an actor does a lot of movies all right on this movie. He knows the director and he's friends and this other movie he knows an an actor took and their friends. But there's a lot of what we know anybody until he gets to know them but the stunt guy he does know. And that's his little buddy on the set that they can talk and bs with each other. So I'm sitting there watching this relationship as you just kind of talk to each other sitting there director's chairs dressed identically to each other and I thought wow that's an interesting relationship if ever. I do a movie about movies about the making of entertainment. That could be an interesting way in the relationship. Issue between an actor and a stuntman is and it was thank you. I have to show this clip now because it goes right to what you were saying. Let's just look. Did you. Just come prepared for that. Yeah and you were going to go with the clip is Kurt Russell. Let's run that clip. Let's see nothing is asking you to help me. Yeah man the answer is no the the answer is no not not no excuse. And this ain't and in Guadeloupe picture and I can't afford to hire a bunch of guys that smoke cigarettes and sit around talking to each other all day on the chance that I might use them. I got a four man team here. Rick I need more the net I got to get it approved and you know I gotTa look after my. Hey you're doing were better match me. I'd say okay. You got the. But that's not the case in note he he. He's a great match. You could do anything you want him to drop off a building. A lot of on fire with flanking Lincoln right get creative whatever you want. He's happy for the opportunity. I don't dig him and I don't think the by he brings. Oddly enough it's actually funny. Just even me telling that little story and watching that scene that actually ended up being very removing actually watching like rick fighting for his guys. I really do anything. You could beat them up but it's not a do raise is your anymore guy's GonNa get hired. He's got he's got he's got to talk the talk. He's got to convince the stunk after the do it does for him. Now we're in that world of Sharon Tate and the Manson's no. Was that always what you wanted to have. As part of this around with this well there was always part part of it because I like the idea for a couple of reasons one. I like the idea of exploring the character of Sharon Tate. Who through through the sensationalism of the circumstances and the sensationalism of history has almost been reduced to a an extra in her own story Lori to some degree? And of course I wanted to deal with Charles Manson and the family. Because I'm kind of dealing with Hollywood mythology at that that time Los Angeles County mythology and they are part of that fabric. You almost can't deal with that That city without thinking about them and also in in dealing with the the ups and the downs of Holly of that Hippie Hollywood they were part of that fabric but one of the things. I'm really proud about about the movie. And part of it is just Margot's enchanting performance that she gives is if I'm dealing with an audience that's eight hundred people in the theater for the most part those eight hundred people before the movie started when they thought Sharon tate they just. I thought about her murder. They thought about her as a murder victim. And I think the perception of Sharon has changed since this movie has played out during the year. Now people think about her as more than just a murder victim they think about her as a person they think they contemplate the life that she lived. She is a A character she's a person she's more than a murder statistics. She seems to be living her own life while the other characters are part of the story. Yeah no well that that was actually kind of that was that was that was done purposely because part of the thing is you. I mean the whole movie. I spent all this time figuring out who the characters were and Dan. At some point I had to. I actually asked myself the question. I was like okay. Okay now. I'm ready to do it. I have my milieu. I know I know the environment and I know the characters. What story do I want to tell me? Quinton Lily ask myself the question. What story do you WanNa tell and oh I thought to myself well you know I had a story in mind? You could imagine like Elmore Leonardy Kinda store. The even Clinton and Ricky feel like Leonard type type of characters. But then I thought about. I don't know I don't think I really WanNa tell a movie story or have a movie. The plot I actually think I just wanted to do a day in the life or a few days in the life of these characters and I actually think the characters are strong enough to hold it and I actually think the milieu that I'm creating being in the in the town itself is enough to hold it so in that regards. I didn't WANNA come up with necessarily plot for Sharon. I just wanted the to have us watch her live her life. She runs errands she drives around. She talks to a couple of her friends. She gets a book she goes to see the movie and and to me it was an aspect of just watching her just live her life. undramatically is kind of what was robbed from her. And that's what we could
FBI arrests suspected neo-Nazis ahead of Virginia gun rally
"In neo **** have appeared in court in the U. S. states of merry land up to being arrested by the FBI on suspicion of planning to incite violence as he rallied forgotten right said it was taking place in neighboring Virginia investigators said the men to Americans and a Canadian had been detained as part of a continuing investigation into a white supremacist group called the base on Wednesday the governor of Virginia Ralph Northam declared a state of emergency and ordered a temporary ban on guns around the state capital Richmond where that rally is planned for Monday alley Winston is an investigative reporter specializing in surveillance and criminal justice three individuals were arrested in Maryland and Delaware in two states or remotely integration of the east coast one of them is Patrick Matthews a former master corporal in the Canadian Army who has gone AWOL from service in August after being outed by a Canadian newspaper as a member of the base which is a mole tanks I guess nihilist neo **** group that believes in using violence and so anarchy to establish a white ethno state in North America wherever they may be the group claims to have it here it's in South Africa and Australia as well as the US and Canada so those three were indicted on the charges in Maryland's they according to the federal government's allegedly assembled a machine gun a fully automatic machine guns from components purchased off the internet and through gun stores and had talks according to the fed's encrypted chats and in person about traveling to a rally at the Virginia state capitol this weekend shooting up and tell us more about this rally to this rally is a rally by far right groups militias that seeks to that have been very active in the approach from far right kind of all right movement in the U. S. and their brain pushes past this coming weekend would be to assert their right to bear arms and carry arms simply that's under attack from the new democratic governor and legislature in Virginia but the thing about this weekend's rally is that there is a ton of chatter on telegram and other far right media platforms online about just being the start of the quote unquote boogaloo see race war that would take that takes off the celebration of society's decline and rise the state and that I believe is why the FBI acted so quickly tell me more about this group the base they seem very well links very well connected both online and offline the base their official line is that they claim to be a survivalist society is interested in bringing together young man seeking service forge bonds that are ignored in modern society but you take a look and see ideology and they are very closely aligned with the ideology and the stance of animosity vision eight Pakula tickle nihilist neo **** group that was established in the US someone passed five years and better is Charles Manson venerates out of Hitler and who seek to overthrow American society through violent means they have five murders their name couple bomb plots and over a dozen arrests Sir clearly highly active and extremely well connected but also well imbedded demean it distract me from your first onset when he said that one individual was working for the Canadian Army yes this particular ideology has drawn many adherence to it from the ranks of military in the western world quite a few American military members I've written about over the past two years three years who joined Adam often division this sort of ideology appeals to individuals who are familiar with weapons and frankly who are disillusioned with the current world order at least and and the American contacts a backlash to almost nineteen years again using this war without any sort of resolution in the Middle East and elsewhere and Allie Winston has been a busy tweeting about this catch him out said eight Winston on Twitter
"charles manson" Discussed on Today in True Crime
"Under California. -FORNIA law a spouse possesses sole rights to the corpse of their wife or husband if often had married Manson the state would have turned his body body over to her without any dispute. She and a friend then intended to have Manson's body preserved placed into a glass coffin and and displayed in a tomb with a steep entrance fee. Her relationship with her dastardly. Bo was actually a get rich quick scheme same as it turned out Manson had known she wanted his corpse prior to her proposing marriage. She asked him to sign a document. Granting in her possession of his corpse but he balked at the idea because he thought he would live forever she then moved to her backup plan marriage and Manson agreed but as time passed Manson waffled on the idea delaying the nuptial indefinitely. Whenever often thought the marriage was about to happen something would interrupt their plans? Manson would be thrown in solitary confinement or sent to to the hospital while they had an official marriage license by the time Manson died in November. Two thousand Seventeen Manson and often often had remained unmarried afternoon. Still made public claims to Manson's corpse but within only a few days she received saved some stiff competition. Michael Brunner one of the illegitimate sons Charles. Manson had fathered with one of his followers. I requested his father's body as next of kin. Then a man named Michael Channels a longtime pen pal of Manson's appeared in court with a will that he claimed he had received from Manson himself but the document was suspect considering that Manson claimed to be immortal to make matters stranger. A second group showed up in court with a second will. This one was filed by Ben Gurecki. He and Matthew Lenz. Greg had been a friend of Manson's for years and lense claimed to have been fathered by Madsen at an orgy. Finally Jason Freeman the grandson of Charles Manson and the son of Charles Manson junior also claimed ownership of Manson's estate Charles Manson Manson junior was the only son of Manson's who had been born within the confines of marriage and as such he was Manson's only legitimate. They're the war for Manson's corpse raged in court for months as four different parties. All had four different it claims to his estate. They all filed lawsuits against each other for making false claims after weeks of deliberation gration. A judge granted Jason Freeman ownership of his grandfather's corpse freeman. Then had Manson's body cremated and and scattered his ashes on a hillside. The ash scattering was a small ceremony. With only Manson's closest friends in attendance. Aften Burton managed to get an invitation. As she watched Manson's ashes spread throughout the wind. None could tell if she was saying saying goodbye to her lover or to a paycheck she had worked years to earn whatever the case with. Manson story finally fully resolved. Most of the world could finally move on his evil had at last been purged. Thanks for listening today in true crime. I'm Vanessa Richardson. If you'd like to learn more about Charles Manson and his vile posse. ossie listened to our episodes of cults on the Manson family. Today in true crime is a podcast original. You can find more episodes of today in true crime. I and all other podcast originals for free on spotify not only to spotify already. Have all of your favorite music but now spotify is making it easy for you to enjoy really all of your favorite podcast originals like today and true crime for free from your phone desktop or smart speaker to stream today in true crime on spotify. Just I open the APP and type today and true crime in the search bar at par cast grateful for you our listeners. Who allow us to do what we love? Let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and Instagram at podcast and twitter at park cast network. We'll be back with a brand new episode tomorrow in True Crime Today. In true crime was created by Max Cutler is a production of cutler media. And is part of the podcast network it is is produced by Max and Ron Cutler sound design by Andy Weights with production assistance. By Ron Shapiro Hall Mahler and Freddie Beckley. This episode of today's Day in true crime was written by Giles offset. I'm Vanessa Richardson..
"charles manson" Discussed on Today in True Crime
"Welcome to today and true crime. Apar- cast original. Today we're covering the death of Charles Manson and the battle for possession of his corpse corpse. That followed I. Let's go back to November nineteenth. Two thousand seventeen. All around the world people waited to hear what had happened to Manson. His fate was shrouded in secrecy. Journalists analysts and gossip mongers alike were denied information on the nefarious. Old Man. Rumors had spread months before that Manson had been been hospitalized now. Those same whispers spread once more. The prison system remained fiercely. Tight lipped about Manson's is health. They cited privacy laws that prevented them from disclosing the medical records of their inmates. They said only that he was afflicted with a serious areas illness. Nobody on the outside knew what that meant. Perhaps he had diabetes or Alzheimer's or a complication in from prison stabbing anything was possible and nobody had the answers however if if they had been at a certain hospital in Bakersfield if they had been in the right parking lot they would have seen a large van labeled California Ed Department of Corrections and rehabilitation if they had gone inside the hospital they would have seen police officers standing outside the door. Four and another standing inside the room itself they would have seen an eighty three year. Old Charles Manson handcuffed uncuffed to Abed an IV drip inserted into his wrist heart monitors placed on his chest. The man was was dying. His body was gripped by the late stages of colon cancer. A serious illness indeed. The cancer had had spread throughout his tissues tumors sprouting up in his lungs his kidneys and his heart his body was wracked with with pain and as he suffered in the hospital bed his mind left him. All that remained of the infamous cult leader was the excruciating excruciating pain that consumed his body. Those prison officials who knew of Manson's disease felt no sympathy for him. Manson had ordered the deaths of seven innocent people. One of whom was with child. His crimes were horrific and his behavior in prison had not improved in the slightest while locked up Manson committed over for one hundred serious rules infractions. He had assaulted other inmates. He had acquired weapons and use them to incite fights he had thrown hot coffee on prison. EMPLOYEES SPAT in guards faces and made antagonistic threats. Time and time again as the guards watched him writhing in his last moments most could not help but feel that Manson was finally getting reading what he deserved by eight ten PM. On the nineteenth the machine set up to monitor his his life began to measure his death his cancerous kidneys failed sending toxins and waste into his bloodstream team. His heart strained to pump struggling to force his poisonous blood through his liver. Lungs and brains like a car engine trying to run on tar instead of gasoline. His heart was fighting a losing battle at at eight thirteen PM. His heart gave its last pump. Forty eight years. After the vicious murders that made him infamous throughout the World Charles Manson was finally dead with his passing. The prison system could tell hell the world what had occurred reporters who had waited with bated. Breath rushed to print their stories. Most who heard the news rejoiced joist but for some the battle was still yet to come at eighty. Three years old Charles. Manson was dead but the fight to claim his body had only just begun next will learn. That drama could follow. Hello Charles Manson even into the grave now back to the story on November nineteenth two thousand seventeen the infamous cult leader and mass killer. Eighty three year old Charles. Manson died of a heart attack. It was a final complication. John of late stage colon cancer and the nature of Manson's disease had been kept hidden from the public eye Charles Manson. I rose to national national infamy. In August of nineteen sixty nine through manipulation and mind control tactics Manson had managed to convince members of his called to commit gruesome and violent murders on August eighth four Manson family members invaded the home of director. Roman Polanski killed his pregnant wife Sharon tate and also executed four other people who had been staying there at the time on August ninth. They continued their killing spree and murdered Lino and Rosemary Labianca a supermarket executive and address dress shop owner respectively. These murders were random but Manson had intended them to incite. Helter skelter and apocalyptic race war. He wanted to destroy the world so he could rise from the ashes and rule as the God king of the new age the graphic nature of his crimes his maniacal motivations and the fact that many of his followers were well off middle class. White kids intrigued rigged the nation people viewed him as the embodiment of evil and he became the most infamous cult leader in US history while most who heard of Manson reviled him. There were some who found his unhinged mind and violent attitude appealing. One of these people was sixteen year old afternoon. Burton who initially learned about Mattsson in two thousand four aften had first heard about Charles Manson. From from a friend she claimed to have fallen in love with Manson when she heard Manson's environmental creed Atwa Air Trees. Water Animals Hamels. She began writing letters to Charles Manson and in two thousand seven when she was nineteen after moved from her hometown in Illinois Annoy took Corcoran California where Manson was imprisoned there. She was able to meet Manson in person and the two began a romantic frantic relationship. After several years of getting to know each other they applied for a marriage license and aften was thrilled to become mrs uses Manson. or at least that's what afternoon claimed. According to an article published in the New York Post in two thousand fifteen aften often cozied up to Manson solely to acquire the rights to his corpse.
Past Life Connections Through Astrology
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"Once Upon a Time in Hollywood" marks Tarantino's biggest opening
"I know that you had a chance to go and see once upon a time in Hollywood this is the big Quentin Tarantino of course you know he's known for directing writing and producing his own shows he doesn't have failed here and and it's been some talk about this I mean I really see marketing working for this particular movie it's everywhere I I keep seeing it to everyone no I think a lot of people know about it it was just released a couple days ago so what did you think about it because it's almost three hours two and a half hours long this move is that right forty million actually a little bit over forty million dollar opening which according to bottom of molecular exactly quick and he knows biggest opening weekend ever a little critical for him for systems are always rated aren't usually very gory bloody so at that that there comes that playing Peters for a long time to build their overall box office yeah but he has over in our stores is super stars in this particular movie Leonardo DiCaprio Brad Pitt I mean even the code of fanning and Al Pacino it's just Kurt Russell are allowed the loop or ask the way Michael Madsen the list goes on yeah mega stars in this movie are so I want to go back for some briefly talk about the marketing yeah the trailer was everywhere was a beginner's TV radio billboards in the trailer was right I think that really helps the the opening of the film it was funny we give these two huge stars but Brad Pitt and the Capri up playing against each other and it seems fine and she and your course set in Hollywood in the sixties and their characters seem very likable so I was on board at the same time I I knew that that that that there still was set in the exact same time three of the Charles Manson murders you're in Los Angeles and that it had something to do with that so I was terrified that the trailer with the bait and switch where I would go in there and I'll get this kind of kitschy Pratt Caprio buddy fun movie that would then devolved into a movie more like the hateful eight which was basically the end of that movie was forty minutes of blood and I just couldn't take it because Quentin Tarantino has its edge we all know that he is no stranger to excessive gore and blood in his films so I went in with a very cautious I okay winners is it's kind of hard to a shrew more recent Tarantino film that's set I won't spoil any part of the film I will say that the film does give you moments of Tarantino blood and gore they are not nearly as egregious excessive are rather extensive as I was expecting but there are pieces of it they're in there it's a rich to lean gore we're like why is this happening on screen but for the most part this film is extremely slow our usual it's really slow I mean he takes his beer precious time all in this will be almost like Tarantino through the lens of Robert Altman in that he's just skin this slice of white and he's truly given us a character piece but the difference here is that it wasn't boring at least for me it was for the third act of the film there were definitely moments where I thought to myself I am loving this movie and I had to ask myself why am I enjoyed it so much might join this because it's about Los Angeles the city I love from where I live and of course once you look in the late late sixties it was cool seeing how they made it look that way I enjoy that all the landmarks in LA that are in the movie that was in that that works around in the sixties and that are still around now am I enjoy that it's about Hollywood making films that seeing how are got behind the scenes look at that and the eight collected mix of character that always involved in that process yeah sure I'm sure all of those things are part of why I was enjoying it but even if you don't live in LA you don't know much about Hollywood I think the performances from the Capri up and Brad Pitt are two of the songs performances ever they are both amazing and this might be I I wouldn't be surprised if we're if we hear about them in the office I think we will for sure hear about them the golden globes this year I've never seen them play characters quite like this before I think it's a glorious return her practice because he has recaptured that same sort of manly charm that that first attracted so many of us to him a Cup of course and when he first hit the scene with very young so that that man with this that you crossed at least is is new we we we haven't seen that as much as he's been producing and his company plan B. entertainment is humor they produce Oscar winning content all right after the award winning contacted many awards he's been behind the scenes of gore actually for years now probably over a decade so to have him come back on screen and play opposite for from from the gap real the way that you is is great and it's yeah it's funny like you see in the trailer there are moments are you are laughing but really these characters so likeable you just want to see what happens with that so I could do been spared the last thirty minutes of the film it was just two lane with ours language terms of still making of these two men that their friendship and their weaknesses their strength and how the stories play out I will do just fine with that and it's right out the call once upon a time Hollywood because they're truly telling you a story you could wonderful time there were these two guys and one of the movie star action star one is it is not man and hear their stories and hear the witnesses I'm gonna watch this play out that's the movie and it's brilliant in a way that I would have never expected really how about that I did not expect to hear that Michael because you know some of the reviews and I read like variety said it's a heady engrossing kaleidoscope spectacularly detailed in this style Jake splatter collage of a film you know home and I'm I'm thinking okay maybe so in this as an epic tale of back lot Hollywood in nineteen sixty nine which allows Tarantino to pound on all his obsessions and we know he has a lot of those but then Washington post said it's not clear that the deep meaning Tarantino attach is to an ugly utterly meaningless act will resonate with anyone else and strongly but he resonated with you right because I think the post is missing missing the point here it isn't about the act that that's kind of the the bait and switch to go back to my original thought about this don't wanna probably going to be the bait and switch that this film is in no way about Charles Manson murders that kinda like at a side note it's it's it's the thing that creates a false sense of I would eat out of emergency it's a ticking clock that doesn't actually exist it's a thing of all waiting to happen that we know what's coming and we're seeing the players come in throughout the film that are involved and we know this thing is a little bit over our heads but batted its primary function to give you a sub conscious ticking clock to what is otherwise a deeply Monday in store but that you have that sub conscious ticking clock you are invested ten times more in the characters into what they're actually mean to the larger plot fourteen point that we know we're gonna come and that's what makes it so good and that's why I feel like a masterful because he's very clearly using our our own at the expectation that built psychology to create tension that would otherwise exist okay in this is Sony Columbia right yes all right is rated R. is a comedy drama but there's a I'm sure there's a lot of cursing and so much more in it I'm who do you think is the audience for this because I know on rotten tomatoes they gave it I think eighty five percent on some of the other critics said about eighty five ninety percent what would you give it mothers audience for one minute it's a little bit lower I think it's in the high seventies or eighties if I had to give it a percentage like rotten tomatoes does yeah I probably be in the high seventies I I'm not sure but still I will go see if you and I would say it's an absolute must you have to see that not that it necessarily where I will go but if you like Tarantino films and if you like character pieces I think that's a real peace here go see it also I don't think it's it's happenstance that baptism takes place on many sets of western movies and that its protagonist as an actor who plays and westerners obviously that genre and I've seen that Tarantino had used in many of his cell the fact even if some of our western armed ways western but here's the story line kind of played on the same way it has these high stakes drama but in in scenario that shouldn't really have them still kind of is a western can't be in the same way that some of those old school time wasters westerns war but it can would care to the soul rounded and interesting especially Brad Pitt character that you kind of don't mind that we're seeing them in the setting you just want to see them play out so I have with you to some like this in here and you know in a very long time it is not the action stabbing kung fu strewn about the sheen done blood says that we've seen so often it's none of those things for most of the movie is really about these two guys are the people around them and the choices that I think the biggest movie he's done is Django Unchained is that correct I have to go back and I think it's like a hundred and sixty two million on that and you know I don't think he's ever done that he's he pull fiction it went really well about a hundred and seven million domestic but he's done a lot of movies that have gotten a lot of attention even if they did make you know a hundred million or more but inglorious Basterds made a hundred twenty million member how we love to say that on radio vision to do it that was awesome and then the hateful eight only made fifty four million that was one because it would be there yeah yeah you too how old were you when you know like bill he's at all it was in constantly boring what what what why would you have a forty five minute long third actively felt like was forty five minutes of just people killing each other a day it didn't it the mold me it was a courageous it was pointless many of the artistic bloodshed that we saw kill bill volume one and two I didn't care about the characters or the motivation and violets for no reason and it seems like a waste of a lot of really good actors talents oh my god I can't believe how would the man if he came on and I was sleepy I was set up drink coffee and watch it that's how much I love that it hits each of us differently that's for sure and and and here in the in the U. S. actually his second lowest mini or not is elderly it's it's the second lowest opening he's ever had hazing are where the boardwalk dogs opened in limited release a hundred forty thousand dollars the hateful eight opening wide only four point six million however to her point well why did make a hundred and fifty five billion so there are people who I could only be fifty four here in the US people here work back on that one is just forty four make gets fifty former U. S. a hundred over seating so they probably barely broke even on that film on it wasn't quite as successful of course you could look like a kill bill volume one they spent thirty million on that it made seventy here in the U. S. a hundred ten form for total of a hundred eighty art course refer there which I know one change that you mentioned is that a house like in on that it was a hundred sixty two million hit the U. S. lane and total four hundred twenty five billion plus stuff in one of his biggest ones hi course love that one so you think you know once upon a time is going to do well it has a gun international yet do you think it will I don't know if it's going to be a beep I'm not sure we can be as big as Django Unchained words breaking almost half a billion dollars that doesn't seem like that's the path of the purpose of a film like this I think this is more for and what's wrong I think you can find something different than what we've seen from him Baystate ninety on this and I would be surprised at what cost and opening the forty yet that surpassed that
From Sharon Tate and Bruce Lee to Rick Dalton and Cliff Booth, here's what's real and what's fake in 'Once Upon a Time in Hollywood'
"It's my pleasure Mister Schwartz your son was done double click moves double feature well you know it's gonna be a little shooting a quick turns you know movie how are you Paul I'm good mark are you you know what though that that's a little misleading when it comes to the amount of violence in this movie isn't it there is not nearly what you've seen and you know the inglorious **** he fully type of thing this is definitely the violence level is toned down from there that said when there is violence in this movie it is totally brutal just like anything Quinn turned Tino's done Mr Tarantino is requesting that we not give away too much and I would argue with him but let's run down some of the things that maybe we can share and that would be the backdrop of nineteen sixty nine Hollywood in a very interesting your you know with the moon landing anniversary for last week with stock you have culture shifts Vietnam and you have Rick Dalton that's Leonardo di Caprio he's a fictional character along with cliff booth another fictional character played by Brad Pitt so Rick Dalton is a kind of a washed up actor's been doing a lot of television shows he's trying to get his career back on track he's worried about the future his driver used to be a stuntman cliff booth played by Brad Pitt is kinda relegated to being a go for but all this is set up against the backdrop of Charlie Manson and his cult in United by nineteen year old son to the screen the other night I said how much you know about Charles Manson and he didn't know a whole lot and I was trying to tell them about the Tate la Bianca murders Sharon Tate very popular actress shoes I think you married to Rohan Pulaski at the time and he of course can come back to this country at the time and that is not what this movie's about though is it I mean it's the backdrop not liking glories **** will war to an ad a filler and the **** with a backdrop that was not a there was a fictionalized account of what happened or what could have happened maybe an alternative reality I remember at the time I ask what insurance you know about that I said my interview in for that movie I said what would you say to the you know to the I don't even know if I use the word complaint but some people think this is revisionist history give me a very insightful answer I wish I could pull up the audio I I haven't done that this week but it's important because the backdrop is everything going on with some of these real characters and you meet some people who unfortunately we know outside of Charles Manson like squeaky for who tried to assassinate president Ford you also meet these people who are part of this winter charging a world like al Pacino's character Marvin Schwartz who's a Hollywood producer Kurt Russell plays a director Luke Perry's in this movie Timothy Oliphant Damian Lewis stars as Steve McQueen someone else who obviously is real so it's a mixture of fiction and reality and beyond that what would you like to say about the story you can use it most of it quite frankly on that it's kinda like alternate reality it's part fictional part real part things you know part things maybe you don't in any kind of meld them together to create this interesting universe that is typical of Quentin Tarantino he loves to take take this universe set usually in this sixties seventies type of era in create something new and that's what he does here with this film he creates just a new look at what what if you know it's not the idea once upon a time in Hollywood will once upon a time is the way my daughter always wanted me to recite bedtime stories start with once upon a time right is this is one tornadoes fairytale sort of a love letter fairy tale The Hollywood now it is when it when it comes to it I was trying to educate myself a little bit on the Manson's I don't know if that's important or not because it's not the same history what I would say about this we let me let me talk with the good first of all there's a lot of good in here I mean the recreation of the Spahn ranch were Charlie Manson spent a lot of his time with his cold is really incredible I read helter skelter and some of these things just came back to life for me you have the recreation of Hollywood Boulevard in Westwood village in the push get theater in the a query cedar peaches records we have those here in Saint Louis old school talk about all these things and this is not digitally recreated he shot this movie on film thirty five millimeter film unfortunately we did not get a a thirty five millimeters screening here in Saint Louis but I mean the production detail Paul I think this pretty safe bet this movie is gonna rack up I'm not saying it's good with Best Picture it is going to rack up some awards when it comes to costume design set design production the music fantastic let me give you a sample of that like deep purple right here
A Manson "murder" house in Los Angeles is for sale
"One of Los Angeles houses were followers of Charles Manson committed notorious murders in nineteen sixty dot is for sale the home of the elite loss police district where we know and rose merry lobby aka were slight is priced at one point eight million the house changed hands several times since nineteen sixty nine and last sold in nineteen ninety eight
Leslie Van Houten, Charles Manson And Newsome discussed on Wake Up Call
"Governor news is over will the state parole board's decision to free Charles Manson follower, Leslie Van Houten yesterday's decision was the third time governor of California stopped to release a stop the release of the youngest member of the Manson cult Newsome says he. He's still concerned about Van Houten potential for future violence than how is sixty
Manson Cult Follower Denied Parole by California Governor
"California governor Gavin Newsom is denying parole for convicted Manson family murderer, Leslie van Hooton, the state's parole board, recommending parole. Rabanne Hooton, but Newsome overruled did he commended the sixty nine year old for her efforts at rehabilitation, but expressed concern that she could still be a dangerous released? She was a nineteen year old follower of Charles Manson when she took part of the murder of Lino and Rosemary. Rosemary labianca in Los Angeles. This is the third time. A parole board has recommended her release
California governor reverses parole board decision on Manson follower
"Manson family member, Leslie Van Houten, we'll stay in prison. The governor of California has overrule the parole board's decision to free her that out in this one of several followers of Charles Manson in prison for a series of murders in nineteen sixty nine out new sixty nine now this is the third time. The parole board has recommended parole for her, and the third time governor has
First Look At Tarantino's New Film, 'Once Upon A Time In Hollywood'
"Probably a good time to get into detail about how all of these potential contenders are selling themselves to us all of them fairly early. I think the the first big one that we haven't talked about last week was once upon a time in Hollywood. So that your little premiered right after we recorded our episode. We're kind of talking about posters in the photos of land Caprio and kind of like a hairspray ask set and the trailer came out with basically a lot of that this movie's coming out the July from Quinton Tarantino is obviously got like a ton of recognition around. It. Do we like the trailer sold us anymore on already differently on what went and Tarantino trying to do with Charles Manson story. I mean, I don't really know what the movie's about based on that. Right. Is it a Charles? I mean, like, I know Charles Manson will be Jason, but like to be laying a terribly famous actor on justified mother TV stuff. So I don't know what that means. There's a weird joke right at the top of the trailer that I'm like are. They friends Brad Pitt and. That's a weird thing to lead with you know, if it's and then Margaritas doing dancing around sharing Tao's Danson, Leo Stanley and dancing. It looks meat. I mean, I know it's about Charles Manson so clearly violence is on its way. But it looks like it's not about people shooting each other necessarily unlike a lot of Quentin Tarantino movies. So I don't I'm intrigued, but I'm also a little tired. Yes. A lot of Quentin Tarantino movies when it come down the pike. You're like, okay. Can I handle this? Quintin movies. Usually the trailers usually really lead with premise like kill belt. His very like, here's what's happening. Here's what she's trying to the hateful eight was all, you know. It's like we put all these guys in a room and they're going to they're going to face off. And this trailer is like sixties Hollywood. And we have movie stars. That's it. There's no real plot talk. I mean, we know it's about a movie starring stunt, man. I guess right now, not even he's like an actor is not a movie star. He's like he's on the right, exactly. No, no, no, you go ahead. I mean, and then Margot Robbie who the they're not saying, she's playing Sharon Tate. But we've read right, right? Like is sort of just like doing some gogo dancing like isolated from that. We don't see them interacting. We don't see anything. Yeah. Which is fine. The Teas. ts. Big question Mark about it is the if it is about the murders. Like Sharon Tate was quite pregnant when the Manson murders happens like eight eight eight months in Monterey Bay is distinctly not at least in the finishes. And the trailers there's some like talk that maybe she will be at some point in the movie. So like, there's there's a couple of possibilities that came out of the sailor one is that it takes place over a long period of time.
California death penalty moratorium met with praise and rage
"Governor Newsom plans to sign an executive order today to put a moratorium on the death penalty in California as KCBS is Meghan. Gold's be tells us he plans to shutter the new never used execution chamber. That's located at San Quentin. We haven't executed someone in the state of California since Arnold Schwarzenegger was the governor in two thousand six but says UC Hastings law. Professor Rory little there were twenty five people who are ready for execution that is all their appeals and administrative efforts have failed. So at some point. We would have begun executing were it not for the governor's action plans to sign an executive order, which doesn't change the sentences of the seven hundred and thirty seven people on death row says Ellen Christ's Berg law professor at Santa Clara university, the death penalty loss still exists in California with the governor has done is at the executive end. There will be no executions. There will be no death warns sign critics say the death penalty has killed innocent. People been applied randomly and says UC Berkeley school of law. Professor Elizabeth simul at the core of the move that he's making our profound and long standing concerns about the discriminatory nature of the death penalty in California. And by that, I mean racially discriminatory nature of the death penalty in California is now home to one fourth of the nation's death row inmates. Make gold speak KCBS. Meanwhile advocates for. Keeping the death penalty on the books are furious about the governor's move KCBS. Reporter math Bigler at San Quentin prison with that part of the story. We're talking about victims rights advocates in many prosecutors who are just stunned by news of the moratorium on capital punishment. We spoke with Kent Scheider, the legal director for the criminal Justice legal foundation. He tells KCBS prison is just not enough for some criminals. I think it's a travesty that Charles Manson is natural life imprisonment. You just wasn't socially punished for you. And there are people on death row like that. Now, Mark class agrees. One hundred percent. He's the father of Polly class who was kidnapped from her bedroom in Petaluma nineteen Ninety-three raped and murdered. Her killer stood trial was convicted and sentenced to death. These are individuals who have been sentenced to death by a jury of their peers because their actions were so evil, and he tells KPI five when governor Newsom told him personally about his intentions. A little part of him died. Stay with KCBS. We will be in Sacramento later today when the governor signs the death penalty moratorium, the governors of three other states, Oregon, Colorado and Pennsylvania have issued similar moratoriums on the
"charles manson" Discussed on KFI AM 640
"Charles manson their it was a celebration on the program when he finally died but the fight is not over the fight for his body has begun legal battle for his body and possessions and they're saying this fight could land in any of three california counties where friends and purported relatives have a court fight there's okay so these three parties have all stay claimed to charles manson's body from the morgan kern county and you have to figure out who this is going to go to the the sickening part of it i mean to follow on the sickness of watching these kids from the turban family be interviewed on tv there are people who would pay a lot of money for anything that has to do with charles manson any of his property any of his writings any of his whatever it art as his body does disgusting but it is the i mean it whoever has the rights to his property it's a windfall for them then because because the three that we know of that are making these choices that are going after this and making this a an actual fight none of them have said i want to control it i want to bury it i don't want it i don't want him uh to be a celebrity anymore i'm just gonna get rid of all of the stuff and not sell it ben gerracca he is one of two pen pals who hold dueling whales allegedly signed by charles manson then says it's a circus shall it's despicable than i'm sitting here sixty days later and i can't get my friend cremated my friend thous pull the car over uh who the hell be friends charles manson i mean and i know that the naive question that everything we learn about the dark web you know whether it's albanian a cold gangs that will name or kill people for you for hire them for bitcoin yard but but i mean come on and i.
"charles manson" Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio
"Than being accepted into this this group and the techniques of the girls the the um the family itself there were surrounding charles manson how they would bring in almost as an immediate bringing other girls into the fold um fascinating and pretty dark stuff but it's worth reading you can also check out the one of the most wellknown and comprehensive books a written about the trial in manson's background which is holter skelter published in 1974 by vincent bugliosi and kurt gentry vincent being the primary prosecutor for the manson trial an in there you will find quite a few things that don't make it into many examinations of this strange tragic darisi disastrous tale in american history uh we'd like to know what you think you can find us on instagram you can find us on twitter you can find us on facebook where we are conspiracy stuff on most of those on instagram we are conspiracy stuff show but if you don't wanna do any of that stuff if you have any tales that you wish to tell us and the ideas right to us we are conspiracyhow stuff workscom either podcast listeners i will pearson and is always i'm joined by my good friend ingush ethic at her every week on parttime genius we answer big questions like can you game a dog show i mean westminster is america's second oldest continuous sporting event our their shortcuts to winning we'll meet the michelangelo poodle groomers learn how to get an obscure dog breed into the show and question things like why did they have separate bathrooms from male and female dog every episode is jampacked with incredible stories and hilarious facts all as we try to nail down a serious topic so check us out already you can download part time genus on apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts.
"charles manson" Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio
"Right well i don't want to take my time go into work yeah and there's a bit of cadence poetry of course to with at least in terms of the language and now despite all the claims of god hooded divine nature charles manson is dead it's strange that the three of us of not explored this topic four earlier we noted that our mission for the series was going to be to determine what if any conspiracy theories surrounding the manson family manse it's background the murders in his later time prison were true and as as we've realised diving into this extremely disturbing rabbit whole this is more than one episode in fact we have to dedicate an entire episode apart too solely to the conspiracy theories surrounding the life of charles manson so it is here that we must pause for a moment but although we are you know him and we know that it can feel kind of strange for us to say here is the background years part one of an episode well we will return with part two of the episode and in the meantime we don't wanna leave you in the darko we'd like to invite you to check out some further reading yes one thing we urge you to check out until we meet again is a book called a member of the family written by diane lake endeavour a herman it is the story of charles manson of the the life inside his colt and the darkness that ended the '60s in its written by a person diane lake who was a part of the family someone who had inside experience of what it was like to be manipulated by charles manson and how the techniques that we've been discussing that he was using what it felt like to be under the spell of some of that stuff and it gets a lot into the lost the lost girl mentality that we were speaking about knowle a lot of that feeling of not having a family but.
"charles manson" Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio
"Bars yet because this situation has come up before and the governor of california the state in which fan how news currently incarcerated a has a one hundred twenty days from the parole ruling to either reversed the ruling modify it granted or make no comment and in other cases the governor has consistently denied parole so we did is quite possible that by the time this podcast publishes there may be a third member out in the free world but currently that's not the case in the the indications are not really in the favour of parole of past a pass behavior is a precedent charles manson however the person that masterminded at least according to the law and according to witnesses masterminded all of these murders and other nefarious deeds that the family did he spent the rest of his life from this point i heard in prison where she lived as a celebrity is nhl's said an american boogeyman i promise and i can overuse that but i think it's really good thanks man manson received more male than any inmate in us history and he formed intense bonds with admirers he readily agreed to interviews clips of which you can see on youtube two day i he had various marriage proposals as marriage licenses euros the nichols yes in says everett manson an interview segment how how did you find now lose you actually was it i should we play will though that's a good one i wanted to take my time go into work i got a motorcyclist sleeping bag and jenin fifteen girls what the hell i wanna go often is go to work for worked for what money i got all the money in the world on mccain man i run the underworld guy i decide who does what were they do it at what am i going to run around and act like i'm some jeannie bumper somewhere for somebody else's money make the money man i roland nichols the games mine ideal the card in that you can hear even later in his life he's pretty zolder at this point uh he's got that manic kind of cadence of the street preacher going form you know.
"charles manson" Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio
"Pence is for food for drugs for socially transmitted disease treatment and this darker turn occurs in nineteen sixty nine manson it always been physically and emotionally abusive to the women under his sway but with the release of the beatles white album he took a sharp turn into apocalyptic beliefs signified perhaps most apparently by his complex interpretation of the song helter skelter by the bay tolls and it's not a bag as a battle amenam i've glad that you put some levity in here because are going to need it in a little bit earlier we can't player a clip from that song because if the beatles right we can't legally plea one for you but we can invite you to check out the song if you haven't heard it before we should we just do legal little lyrics snippet perhaps or maybe you're reading into a little reading so here's a snippet from uh the lyrics upscale is actually pretty pretty simple exhibit manson really took a lot out of it because like this when i get to the bottom i go back to the top of the slide i stop in a turn and i go for a ride till i get to the bottom and i see you again yeah yeah yeah hey do you don't you want me to love you i'm coming down fast but a miles above you tell me tell me tell me come on tell me the answer will you may be a lover but gino dancer helterskelter helterskelter helterskelter yeah who and man what charles manson heard when he listened to those lyrics in the music combined was something beyond what i interpret when i listen to the song and let's get exactly into what he thought it meant after a quick word from our sponsor.
"charles manson" Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio
"She was clearly mentally ill in 1940's 70s caught stealing and he sent to his school for boys in indiana and there are from that point he spent the next two decades in and out of reform schools juvenile detention and eventually prison there and then moves on himself alleged staunchly for his entire life that he was sexually assaulted numerous times by multiple assailants while at this and other institutions so the saying that you know not only was his child childhood terrible with all these things happen a mother wouldn't even give him a name then he moved on to living in these institutions where he was just abused at least according to charles manson and as he continued committing crimes are being imprisoned the released then imprisoned again he became a career offender more comfortable arguably outside of the bounds of the law them with in them and then a nineteen sixty seven when he was set to be released from prison he actually begged to stay inside the jail he said he was incapable of living outside the walls of the prison as though i can function inside here but not out there anymore because this is my new home and that's i mean that's sad mmhmm but it's also something we've kind of heard before where once you get used to that the structure of a prison life it's very difficult to to function outside it was like in the shawshank redemption where when the morgan freeman's character finally gets released at the end and he just doesn't know how to go about daytoday life because he's been in for so long it's a real thing that real people experience all the time it makes sense but it is absolutely as you say quite quickly said and what a world charles manson found when he was released in nineteen sixty seven this is as we said the the height of the free love movement he ashbury becoming a mecca of sorts of a holy.
"charles manson" Discussed on Harmontown
"Charles manson spoke his hands were tied apparently that's what they say if it had river manson he would have been a proud father roman polanski it's kind of weird when you see is recent movies johnny depp they're not that good forgive me if i tap 100 patrick out muscle heart charles manson youth answer clarke thread sack threads make a spider but you're bomb on a ryder truck you haul don't matter which one ticket across the country to have some fun flew from new york to la started this killing spree today started a cold on a mansard ranch said go out there like your name is blanche golden girls take this port for a world though stabs at people with it we're talking to circles massacres blood virginia tech families word johannesburg all right stop manson man they could have i went on may is that it's not your guy's job to put me out of my misery but yeah no world dancer you took you you may also there is some catch you parts terrorism catchy parts what was it will you you have dents to for hbo and you've done so for adult swim that he'd been a producer is that something that you i know europe added and bringing it back to me oh isn't that bad i i don't want to runify saying say it does is the perfect multi show forbade like fucking that's my dream you like producing is it a deal lean towards producing more than before i don't love doing that yeah i don't like i tell you what i like i like it i am is lazy is the next person i i like it when you could show up and in they wrote a really funny script and you do that script and if in if they're sign like in any provison also make it if you want to throw in your own jokes like i love that but more and more it that doesn't happen very so i feel like i rate stuff out of necessity for my sand that is not a sustainable life rightly can actors light it i don't.
"charles manson" Discussed on Harmontown
"Anyways so he died of being an old dude british airways is to be an an old dude as overweight refresh my memories though he is so he could so he he just told people to kill people i mean yeah he was definitely guilty of murders throughout his life but i think all of the murders that he actually committed himself he uh he he was paid up on those because our society does let you murder some people alike serve a couple of years in prison and he did do that and then but the real reason he was in prison is because he was like a cold leader that that inspired people to go out and kill a bunch of people yeah and i always found that a little edge it now on 44 now he's dead i don't care i'm not an iconoclast anymore i want my old obama society back i will why i just want to be a just one a hot cup of coffee and some hypocrisy and some drone strike enforced fucking like first world comfort i'm sorry i ever talks a tall game i was never gnome chomsky i was never off the grid i never ate any kind of pill i'm a fucking pussy and i just want a i just just want my comfort bag i'm sorry i ever sided with charles manson but i just at the time i felt like if you if you if you made me pick a side between the guy that's locked up for influencing people to murder people and the person who's saying he's knows who's to mix is split or because he does nerves arts and crafts as they are on a vienna team yeah because then i'm next yeah and i gotta tell you wouldn't kill anybody but at the time i was like you know maybe i'll be influencing people from a ranch at some point well in your rap you did and it could still happen.
"charles manson" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM
"Without brief scarier what i i love my wife texted me this the next day she's like you have to get this checked out or on divorcing now i'm not concerned about 25 sick of going without breathing right there well so he was going to do what all of us would have done in the same situation let you died out in my defence i could tell by the really bad head cold and it was worse a couple of days ago and i add like three jack and coax well that may have something to do so i don't normally do this every night i don't think that this some pretty horrific oh god i go and mary twice as long as you have some we give you some free counselling right here she was going to leave you anyway this whole snoring sleep apnea thing is just the excuse of got i've got a doctor's appointed schedule tomorrow her 1130 i i have a feeling of cpap machine is in my nearfuture again though my my i had had a lot of whisky it's a great will launch head to relax sure if you're gonna be around about budget children you might as well be drawn so i am couple of brought a bottle of jack will be of the after the kids with the bed a and i are really bad head colds writing those two factors can of boy good lord have thirty seconds at least dick breath and i was asleep i was in a my first question lindsey just like we when we were you planning on shake me awake at all or regis mahathir at i think we all know the answer to that and we all know what we would have done the same situation exactly what they did him hemmer we lost to charles manson and you know what's weird as i see people on social media saying rip arrested heaven charles manson what no allowance dead i'm glad this bastard not our oxygen and using our resources any more charles manson dead at the age of eighty three and for those who didn't know he had some time indiana relate charles manson has in indiana background has adolescence was in indiana got into trouble in indiana on how to go down to terror hope to some.
"charles manson" Discussed on The Complete Guide to Everything
"Who is it last week walt disney probably yeah the with let's talk about tv shows and before that uh who as it uh before that it was charles manson was alive yeah that was like a preemptive one i was hoping that between the time that we recorded in that it was released uh charles manson would be navy murdered in prison nam mop dahmer style and their these scab like another cult going on in their tim i really wish you wouldn't wish ilan hun chuck manson sperry unbecoming yeah it's true easy vat now i didn't want it for like i don't like i don't care if a man lived there dyes that guy friday whatever he's gonna he's gonna liver he's going to die five wanted a i wanted the grave pissing recommendation to it you know be accurate right yeah watson and i apologise well i may there is now the more disappointing than going to a cemetery to pass on somebody's grave and finding out there so alive mm yeah but sometimes you can uh you know people by a plot next to a loved one so you can find but you know he had a complicated family life i down it's tough especially if you uh you know you're like drinking a bunch of coffee before you got to the cemetery or something in and he answer a gala hits on someone's area like oh god who uh who is the worst person he gives me a gravedigger who's the worst person the cemetery ordinary warcriminals here may rarely ever now now the grave diggers you would think they'd be way more up on it but they're just like i'm here to do one job buddy the grave dated grave i'm not here to pass judgment most of them are pretty zan about it they're like who am i to say.