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Cerberus

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Cerberus

"A warning this episode features dramatization and discussions of death and mutilation listener discretion is advised especially for listeners under thirteen. something. To note the story you're about to hear is not a direct retelling of any single myth about cerberus. Today's episode combines elements from a number of legends about this demonic three headed dog for dramatic effect. Hi I'm Vanessa Richardson throughout history. Every civilization has created their own unique tales about the creatures that stalk the landscapes of the human imagination each week on mythical monsters. Women those stories looking for the fears, desires, and anxieties that created these fictitious beasts. Today we're talking about cerberus a ghastly dog from Greek mythology cerberus guards the gates of the underworld trapping, the souls of the dead within he plays a dual role in the world of Greek mythology as both a beloved pet and a capable. Predator what's most frightening about him is not knowing which way he's going to turn you can find episodes of mythical monsters and all other podcast originals for free on spotify. Coming up, we'll dive into the early history of Cerberus. This episode is brought to you by Lysol reducing the spread of illness is everyone's hands and it really helps if those hands are clean. Protect yourself and others by continuing to follow important hygienic guidelines like regular hand washing. Lysol what it takes protect find more healthy habits at LYSOL DOT com. This episode is brought to you by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Forty eight states banned texting and driving. So if you do it, you're not only putting people at risk you're breaking the law. Remember you drive you taxed UPA It kid leaned against the dripping wall of the Cave and gazed out at the lifeless gray beach the sun never shown on the beaches of Airy Ma but she didn't mind she liked the rain she flipped the tip of her speckled snake's tail as she watched her son jumping into puddles and sending up waves of sandy water. It kidneys started to call out to him. When she noticed figure emerging from the mist she ran her hands nervously through her long blonde hair. If it wasn't her husband Typhon than it was a god and God's only ever visited when they wanted something and they rarely took no for an answer. The figure came closer it was a woman with Pale skin and thick dark curls. Knows shuddered percents any queen of the underworld that goddess was a beautiful monster. As percents, any approached the cave it kidneys son ran to greet her percents any smiled and padded the boy on the head. She stepped into the Cave and seemed ready to spout some sort of pleasant greeting but a kidnap cut her off. What do you want? Percents. Any smiled sweetly and replied. My dear friend I've come with a proposition the gods on Olympus heard that you were gifted with another child they're anxious to know your plans for him. Knows face flushed her tail twitched back and forth as she replied coldly. My plans are to keep him here with me where he belongs. Per Seventy smiled again though this time it was less sweet. From one mother to another I. Assure you giving him up is what's best he's small now but if he's anything like his father, he'll soon be larger than either of us. Don't view it as him being taken from you see it as him being given a duty were he can be of use to everyone. She glanced at Cerberus a kidney wondered what percents any saw when she looked at her son true. His tail was a snake. He had three heads and the hair around his head was writhing with even more snakes but to her. Just. A puppy. All she saw when she looked at him was love. Per Seventy continued your last one was taken from you as well. Wasn't he or this was it you must have known we would not allow you to keep another monster. Tears pricked at a kidney is as she ran her hands through services writhing for she looked at. Me and asked what if I say? No. perceptually side heavily, the gods sent me here to convince you peacefully. But if you won't agree Zeus has ways of making you cooperate. It no looked into her son's is he put one of his noses up to her face and he gave her a gentle lick on the Chen. It kidnapped felt like an enormous hole was forming inside her chest. Would he miss her would he cry and whine like he did when she went out to hunt for them after years had passed? Would he forget her face? It kid turn to percents any and asked if she could at least say goodbye process any bowed and stepped out of the cave giving her a moment of privacy a kidney kissed each of her sons, heads and whispered. Go with the lady be faithful and loyal do what you are told. It kidnapped held cerberus close and breathed in the center of his for when she saw his tail wagging she had to look away. He didn't understand that he would never see his mother again. Per. Seventy stepped into the cave and clamped a metal chain around each of the puppies long snake like necks. Service began to whimper he pulled at the chain and gazed. Brother with a look of pain and betrayal. Today as per seventy pulled hard on the chain dragging him after her. Kid know watched him walk away even after everything the Gods had done to her. She hoped against hope that her son would obey them. It was his best chance at survival. An eighth century text titled Theology Describe Services Birth as follows. And next again, it kidney bore the unspeakable unmanageable care barrows the savage bronze barking dog of Haiti's fifty headed and powerful and without pity. The author of theology was a Greek poet named. He said the Ogoni was his masterwork, an epic poem that describes the origins and myths of the Greek Pantheon in it. He said claims that Cerberus was the child of the infamous monsters it kidnap and Typhon. It kidney is often described as the mother of all monsters a human snake hybrid. She had the head and torso of a beautiful woman, but the lower half of an enormous speckled snake typhoons, description berries but usually includes multiple heads, fiery eyes and a surplus of snakes together it kidnapped and Typhon gave birth to some of the world's most infamous monsters including the Hydra the Sphinx, the Nemean Lion, and the kyw Mira. Among this Brood of terrifying siblings service might seem almost benign and as time went on descriptions of this, hell beast would indeed become less imposing part of this move from terrifying monster to loyal guard dog might have had something to do with the fact that humankind's relationship with dogs was changing though the process of domestication began some twenty thousand years ago it is ongoing dogs continue to change throughout antiquity, not only their physical bodies but also their behavior in the eighth century. BC, he. C-, described Cerberus as a flesh eating fifty headed monster that was at a time when Greek dogs were viewed as. Wild animals they were kept because they served a purpose guarding the home working with farmers to control livestock. Nearly, a thousand years later in the second century C e a Roman writer named you lay described Cerberus as a three headed dog who is easily subdued with a honey cake. His relationship to dogs would have been very different from that of heads. Up Yalies time dogs were treasured pets they were buried like members of the family and given as gifts to loved ones that change is reflected in the way people described Cerberus, the most famous of all mythological dogs. Of course those living in the time of APP you. With been well aware of the role that dogs once played the result was an `ambiguities toward canines that still underlies our relationship with them to this day. cerberus is the embodiment of this strange packed. We've made with dogs. He's not an inherently evil beast. He's just doing his job guarding the land of the dead as he was instructed to do that. We are so afraid of him says more about us than it does about cerberus. Herrick lease followed in silence behind the two hooded figures. When he'd arrived at the temple, he'd been surprised to find a one room building standing alone on a green hillside outside Athens. He'd heard that thousands attended the L. U. Sydney in mysteries each autumn but the little temple looked like it could barely hold more than twenty people herrick lease new plenty about the mysteries that they took. Away one's fear of death or changed your life and terrified you to your core. He wasn't particularly impressed. He couldn't think of anything that could be more terrifying or on inspiring than the many wonders he'd already witnessed his interest in the mysteries was purely pragmatic participating in the ceremony was the only way. He could safely journey to the underworld and complete the ten tasks his cousin had set. After, he'd killed his family in a fit of madness. Herrick lease had sworn himself to the service of his cousin King Uresti S as Penance if he'd known what a scheming donkey clawed his cousin was, he might have found another way Uresti is hated him that much was clear. Now, herrick lease had already completed eleven of his tasks, but URESTI had declared to in Balad hopefully descending into the underworld to defeat the beastly hound cerberus would be enough to satisfy even his insipid causing. The higher of Fan and high priestess had greeted him with a glass of frothing amber liquid. Then they led him to a dark stone staircase at the back of the temple as the three climb down the stone steps. Hair cleese began to feel a bit woozy. He was wondering what had been in the drink. They'd given him when the narrow passageway opened up. Herrick lease looked around in awe heat emerged onto a much grander staircase leading down into an enormous stone cavern. So that was why the temple was. So small, most of it was underground. Far, below him a magnificent altar was flanked by huge stone statues. The sound of chanting echoed off the walls at first he couldn't see its source but then he realized there were dozens of people standing just beyond the light of the brass braziers. To robed figures emerged from the darkness leading a pig on a gold chain when he reached the bottom of the dizzying staircase, the higher of fant directed herrick leased to stand before the altar. The Hira Fat Lit a massive Bowl of incense and the room filled with smoke. The high priestess approached the altar where hooded acolytes held down the terrified pig. The animal squealed terror the high priestess lititz throat spraying herrick lease with it's hot blood. F-. Herrick leases vision wavered the stone pillars around the room seemed to sway. He thought the mysteries would be nothing more than theatrics, but there was something about this. Stone cavern that made his blood run cold the massive space felt as though it had been here since before he was born and it would be here long after he was gone in this place, a human life was insignificant. It was a pitiful thing that could be snuffed out in a moment when heracles saw the statue start to move it took all he had not to screen. A great wind swept through the cavern herrick lease felt his stomach titan in fear his entire body trembled as one by one. The massive stone figures stepped down from their plants. Then all at once the noise and commotion ceased. One of the statues came toward him. It was a woman in stone robes painted blue and gold. Her face was hidden by Vail but herrick lease knew who she was per sesame Queen of the Dad. She spoke in such a calm and soothing voice that hair cleese almost felt relief. I have come to give you counsel. My husband can be a stern man he loves his dog and he believes in justice. If you ask favor of him, he may grant it. If you take what is not yours hades will have his retribution. It will be a pain beyond human endurance mind numbing terror without end. Seventy smiled she leaned down and planted a kiss on herrick lease forehead. Then she climbed back up onto her plinth and became still once more. The chanting stopped and the smoke cleared herrick lease himself standing alone in the great cavern wondering how much of what he'd seen had been real. Suddenly, a gust of wind blew out the flames and the Braziers the room was plunged into near complete darkness. The only remaining light was a lifeless gray illumination became from a jagged hole in the back wall of the cave. When herrick lease peered into it, he could see a sloping path that descended through a rock hewn tunnel into missed. This was the entrance to Haiti's. There was no going back now herrick lease took a deep breath and began his descent into the underworld. Coming up herrick lease must face the king of the dead. 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She'd said that those who took what was not there's would face the wrath of heydays but herrick Leigh's had to kill the hound service and take his body back to his cousin. How could he do that without taking what wasn't his? Suddenly herrick lease had a thought that stopped him in his tracks. Maybe he didn't taft defy the Gods Uresti had commanded him to defeat Cerberus, but he'd never said that he had to kill. Perhaps. That was what percent had meant when she said Hades was inclined to grant favors he could ask to borrow the dog and bring it back just long enough to show his cousin. The thought made herrick lease almost giddy with excitement. He started walking faster a moment later he emerged from the thick gray cloud. Deep Mountain of loose gravel. Herrick lease steadied himself and gazed out at the landscape before him at some point in his journey he'd passed out of the cavern an into an entirely different world. To enormous rivers wound their way through rocky ravines and converged beside a marshland choked with blue grey reads wretched souls wandered about the marsh most of them wailing and moaning and a kind of blind agony though their bodies were those of ordinary humans their skin was an almost translucent white and their eyes were blank grey balls that rolled around in their heads off. At the edge of the river was a dock and there crouching along the rocky shore was cerberus. The Hound was far larger than heracles had imagined at least twice the size of a man. It's three sets of eyes were all blood red with yellow slits for pupils drool dripped from its three sets of foot long fangs the site of it transfixed Derek lease for a moment. He completely forgot that he decided not to kill the beast. His hand curled instinctively into a fist and he began to calculate which angle of attack would be most effective. Herrick lease was brought out of this warriors reverie. rowboat approached the dock a group of ragged souls disembark from the vessel, each one depositing a coin in the outstretched hand of the surly and disheveled ferryman. As the souls crowded onto the landing cerberus launched himself toward the dock herrick lease braced for the carnage. But instead of attacking, he was jumping up and down and wagging his tail, his mouth hung open in a look of playful joy and for a moment herrick lease almost forgot that he wasn't just a dog looking for a pat and a kind word. One of the souls was that of a boy of about seven or eight as he stepped off the dock, he turned around and seem to notice something that had been left on the ferry. He pointed out to an older man walking beside him but the man shook his head, he tried to restrain the lad but the boy broke away running back toward the ferry. cerberus noticed. The attack happened in a flash one moment the boy was stepping onto the dock. The next he was laying on the ground in a pool of blood as cerberus three heads tore into him. The old man collapsed in trembling sobs the ferryman walked back to the boat. He picked something up and tossed it to the old man heroically squinted to make it out. The boy had gone back for a rag doll. Herrick lease shivered and turned away from the rivers. Serb-areas was a strange and terrible beast the sooner he made it to the House of Haiti's the sooner he could be done with him. The convention of the hero who travels into the world of the dead is called Cotabato says, it comes from the Greek word meaning to descend in this type of story a hero journeys into the underworld to retrieve some sacred object a journey that proves the heroes mythic status by showing their ability to overcome death itself. Any Greek character who wanted to achieve this feat I had to contend with Cerberus who was tasked not only with keeping the dead in but also with keeping the living out orpheus the renowned musician who traveled to the underworld to retrieve his beloved eurydice. was able to put cerberus to sleep by playing him a Lullaby the hero aeneas slipped past him by offering him drug flour and the Roman heroin psyche offered him barley cakes but by far, the most famous hero to defeat cerberus is herrick lease. Herrick lease also known by his Roman name Hercules was a Demi God who often came up against setbacks and insurmountable odds in order to atone for murderous rampage caused by the Goddess Hera Hera cleese was forced to carry out ten heroic deeds at the behest of his scheming cousin Uresti us. In the course of these deeds herrick lease ended up defeating several of a kid as monstrous. Including the NIIMI in Lyon who we've discussed in a previous episode of mythical monsters of the tasks that heracles faced none were more imposing than the capture of cerberus of feet, which represented nothing less than defeating death itself. Herrick lease began his journey in Elusiveness, not only for the practical purpose of learning the way to the underworld. But in order to show his position in relation to the God's The L. U. Simeon mysteries were one of the only egalitarian cults in Greek society anyone could participate and those who did were often impressed with the awesome and terrifying power of the Gods. The second century philosopher Plutarch describes the mysteries as terrors, shuddering fear and amazement. pericles participation in the rituals positions him as an ordinary mortal. When he embarked on his journey, it was as a conquering hero who had already defeated eleven monsters including three of services siblings. His participation in the mysteries is a ceremonial way of acknowledging that despite his success he is not a god he will enter the underworld as an ordinary man fighting alone against a realm of horrors beyond his understanding. Herrick leased didn't know how long it had been since he'd come to the land of the dead the sky never changed. It was always the same shade of Dim Gray for all he knew it might have been months since he'd I laid eyes on the realm of the dead or even years in all that time he hadn't eaten or drank he was exhausted starving and he would have given his left. Foot just to lay in the sun for one minute, he'd wandered through the stingy and marsh where the souls of unhappy lovers wailed finally among the stinging weeds and bubbling mud. He'd passed through the Asheville Meadows of field of colorless flowers where pitch-black cows wandered among the lonely Cyprus trees. Finally, he had come to the plane of judgement were a great black palace loomed above the Mesa like thundercloud on the horizon. In the world of the living people didn't dare mention the Lord of the dead by name they called him you Boulia's giver of Good Advice. Now, herrick lease was not only going to come face to face with Haiti's he was going to ask him for a favor. When he reached the grand entrance to the House of Hades, he was not surprised to see the brass doors standing open. The giver of good advice was expecting him. Herrick lease made his way up a long flight of black marble steps at the back of the hall to figures stood by dwindling fire herrick lease a them when they turned around. Herrick. Lease recognized for seventy but not the man next to her he had a thick graying beard and the penetrating stare of someone who does not suffer fools herrick lease realized that this must be Haiti's Herrick Leigh's bowed deeply hades addressed him in a booming voice why do you intrude upon us? Herrick lease looked up into his eyes for the first time in his life. He had trouble finding his voice after a moment of stammering he managed to calm his nerves enough to speak. I came for a favor. Herrick, lease glanced at per sesame whose lips had curved into a knowing smile he continued I meant to bring your dog to the court of my cousin Uresti us. I would not do it against your will. So I've come for your permission. Haiti's expression was unreadable. He turned towards the fire and replied. You were wise to do. So the last man who stole from me has been rolling the same boulder up a hill ever since. Haiti's continued I will grant your request but no, this cerberus must not eat the foods of the living they hurt his stomach you are not to use any weapon against him only your own brute strength. If you permanently harm my dog, you will face agony like nothing in all of heaven and earth. Herrick lease felt his stomach clench. It wasn't using his bare hands that scared him. He defeated the Nieminen Lion without weapons. What worried him was the fact that he would have to bring the dog. Unharmed he'd never done that before gentleness was not one of his talents. He side at least he would have the journey back to the river sticks in which to come up with a plan. He accepted the conditions. Haiti's lips twisted up into a crafty smile. He replied very well. I. Look Forward to seeing how you do against my hound. He snapped his fingers and an instant the palace fell away. Herrick lease felt as if he had landed face first on a stone slab, he rubbed his stinging cheeks and looked around. He was back at the marsh near the river sticks. He stood up to his ankles in mud and twenty feet ahead of him pawing at the ground as it prepared to charge were the drooling snarling heads of cerberus. COMING UP CERBERUS turns the full force of his fury on an unprepared herrick lease. In a world where CATNIP is plentiful and every room has crashing post something spooky is lurking. Premiering. Sixteenth temptations, productions presents the stuff of cat nightmares. The first ever horror movie for cats scaredy cat. The next time you hear those glasses falling off the counter and picture frames sliding off the shelves you may want to think twice is that your cat? Or something far more sinister scaredy cats and movies. So hair raising that you're furry feline will race under the bed to hide before being lured out by the temptation to keep watching this Halloween. Don't trick them treat them. 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Heroically, surveyed the Bank of the river sticks he instinctively looked for something he could use as a weapon against cerberus. Then he remembered that hades had made him promise not to use one. He also made herrick lease promise not to permanently harm the dog right before transporting him face to face with the snarling hound. Herrick lease took a deep breath and adjusted his stance. The one advantage that he had was his intelligence. If he could get the dog to attack I, he might be able to trip it up and get it on its back before it had the chance to rip out his throat. Herrick lease waited the dog stalked back and forth in front of him the Hound was at least ten feet tall. Each of its three heads was at least as big as the entire body of an average dog. Its muzzle was stained red with blood and it's white fangs drift with drool that burned black. INTO WHATEVER IT touched. It's matted fur writhed hundreds of snakes each one a different species a cobra poked out from behind one of its ears and a diamond pattern rattlesnake lashed out from its haunches. The snakes were thickest around the dog's necks were they formed a kind of squirming multicolored main herrick pulled his cloak tied around his chest. It was made from the impenetrable skin of the nemean lion at the very least it would protect him from the snakes. Herrick lease gritted his teeth and called out. Here. Doggie Doggie. CERBERUS made a low growl like rolling thunder the dog crouch down on its haunches. Then with a series of barks like cracks of lightning serb-areas leaped into the air speeding toward the hero. Herrick, lease duct, and rolled to the side. The dog landed face first in the mud and Heracles dove at its next with his arms outstretched he managed to encircle two but the third escaped his grasp. It bit down hard on Herrick lease arm. He could feel the snakes. Snapping at his cloak and he watched in horror as a writhing. Cobra. Made for his ankle herrick lease released the dog pushing it away and taking off in the opposite direction. He tore through the marsh hearing the beast charging after him. It's heads snapping at his heels. Herrick lease knew he could never run the dog, but he might be able to make it to the dock. He flew toward the wooden platform with Cerberus at his heels. When he reached the edge, he stopped himself and stepped neatly aside smiling as cerberus careened into the rivers sticks. As the dog paddled frantically against the current herrick lease took all three heads under his arm. He jumped into churning groundwater and used his free hand to pull them both toward the distant shore. By the time they got to the far side of the river. They were both exhausted herrick lease knew that if he was going to get the dog up to the world of the living, now was his chance he released his grip on the dog's heads while it was still coughing up river water. Then he seized it by its back legs and began dragging it up towards the rocky hillside in the distance. Herrick lease walked for miles up through narrow passageways every. So often cerberus would twist his entire body and nearly knock herrick lease off his feet but still held on his shoulder began to ache and his legs nearly gave out beneath him. But he knew he could not let go even for a single second. Finally when he thought he couldn't take another moment. He saw a light at the end of the passageway. At the site of the light cerberus stopped snarling and began to whimper like an injured puppy as they drew closer to the sunlight herrick realized something. This dog had never seen the sun before he was afraid of it heroically suddenly felt a pang of pity tug at his heart he side and stroked one of the dogs heads trying to coax it out onto the green field bathed in bright summer sunlight. As heroic lease cajoled him out onto the field cerberus, put his paws over two of his sets of is the third head. He pushed into a mound of earth to escape the light. All three heads began to yell in fear his torso convulsed with a tremendous rushing sound one after the other the heads vomited all over the grassy field. Herrick Leigh's is grew wide as the frothy bile burned through everything. It touched. He grinned he couldn't wait to bring this dog to his. Cousins Palace. Tonight Him Nepalis more commonly known as Wolf's Bane is a delicate purple flower that grows in mountainous regions of the Northern Hemisphere. In fiction, the plant is used for curing the bite of a Werewolf but in reality, it contains a potent toxin called a carnitine which can be used to create lethal and fast acting poisons. Ancient Greeks. Believed that this poisonous flower was created when heracles dragged cerberus out from the land of the dead and into a sunlit field of flowers unused to some light cerberus promptly spewed. All over the field and the combination of his poisonous vomit and the fertile soil produced the toxic purple blossoms. The story of the field of Wolf, Spain is a good example of services dual nature on the one hand. He's a terrifying monster with poisonous saliva but on the other, he's just a dog even though his for is riding with snakes, he still exhibits those qualities that humans find. So endearing the pitiful wine that cuts right to your heart or the fear of the unknown that we find. So relatable. cerberus gave up trying to bite the lion man. Once they reached the bright place for one thing the light hurt his eyes and made him sick. But more importantly, they weren't home anymore his job was to keep people from leaving home. If he didn't have to do his job anymore, there was no reason to bite the lion man cerberus was free to truck behind him stopping occasionally to take in the incredible assortment of smells that now surrounded him in the city there were a thousand different people odors and a new food sent around every corner cerberus wanted to be friendly to the people but most of them ran away as soon as they saw him. He was used to that there were plenty of people at home who didn't WanNa play with him either. Finally they came to a palace like the one where Haiti's lived but smaller and not black the lion man lead cerberus into a big room where a smaller man was sitting on a chair he could smell the small man's fear and it made his heart starts racing before the lion man had held him back every time he wanted to run off. Now he gave cerberus pat on the rump and told him to go play with the little man. CERBERUS bounded up to the human, his tail wagging and his tongues hanging out of his mouths. The little man tried to hide but cerberus found him he jumped onto his chest and took in the rich sent of fear and urine before batting him around with his paws, he could hear the lion man behind him laughing. Finally the lion man pulled cerberus. And took him back out into the city. They sat together in a square filled with pigeons the lion man padded his heads and gave them each a piece of cake. He told cerberus not to tell Haiti's he said Cerberus was a good boy but it was time to go home. He said something else to cerberus didn't understand the words. But when he looked into the lion man's is he thought he understood the emotion behind them it was empathy. The tail of the Twelfth Labor ends when Heracles Bring Cerberus to the palace of his cousin Uresti US having defeated. The dog in Haiti's herrick lease seems to have gained some level of control over the animal. He uses the dog to terrify his nefarious cousin into finally releasing him from his debt then returns it to the underworld. Like dogs themselves cerberus goes from a dangerous Predator to attain creature working on behalf of its human companion. Early relationships between humans and dogs were complex and ever evolving. They were ferocious killers that we took into our homes and by doing so we changed them but it did not happen all at once for a long time. Our relationship to dogs was a tenuous balance between affection and fear. Perhaps, the best reflection of this is the fact that so many civilizations in the ancient world chose the dog as a figure who would lead the dead into the afterlife in Egypt. There was the Jackal headed God, a new best a patron saint of law souls who comforted the newly deceased in Mesoamerica the hairless gray shallow wheat screenplay dog swam alongside the dead as they made their way through the watery underworld norse mythology had its own version of cerberus a dog named Garm who guarded hell the norse. Underworld. Death is a necessary part of life and the ambiguous feelings we have about it or not. So different from the ones we once had about canines to those who are sick or in pain it is a self and also a terror without death life would be meaningless like those early dogs that crept up to the fires of early man we chose to let it into our lives we live with the terror in the. That we might taint. Thanks for listening to mythical monsters will be back next week with a new episode for more information on Cerberus amongst the many sources we used we found the Ash Gate Encyclopedia of cinematic monsters by Jeffrey Weinstock. Extremely helpful to our research. You can find all episodes of mythical monsters and all other park cast originals for free on spotify not only does spotify already have all of your. Favorite music. But now spotify is making it easy for you enjoy all of your favorite podcast originals like mythical monsters for free from your own desktop or smart speaker to stream mythical monsters on spotify just open the APP and type medical monsters in the search bar and don't forget to follow us on facebook and Instagram at podcast and twitter at podcast network. I'll see you next time. Mythical monsters was created by Max Cutler and his a cast studios original. It is executive produced by Max Cutler sound design by Brian Golub with production assistance by Ron Shapiro. 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Michael Rooker

Sci-Fi Talk: The First Season

27:54 min | 7 months ago

Michael Rooker

"That man this is Ethan Phillips from Star Trek Voyager. Mark Pellegrino I'm Jacob from law than vistaprint supernatural. This Katie Saka. I'm Michael CERBERUS The observer from fringe and Jebediah Loeven from stake land, and you're listening to sci-fi talk. Hi Welcome to this edition of sci-fi Talk. This is Tony to Lonzo. Had a chance to speak recently to Michael Rooker who was appearing at the Wizard World Atlanta Convention. We talked about that in his career talk a lot of walking dead at about the Dixon brothers Merle who he plays and also his brother Daryl played wonderfully Norman Rita's course he passed away or was killed by Daryl this coming season, which is certainly no spoiler by now but really cool series and really cool character and we talk about some of his other work including the upcoming guardians of the Calisi. Here's my conversation with Merle himself among many other roles Michael. Rooker. We've actually we've actually met I was one of the many people to table for season four walking dead at New York comic con so And then I didn't we didn't talk. But I saw you at the Guardians of the Alexey press conference in San Diego last year. So our okay. Hey. Speaking of what you're going to be at wizard world comic con and how that's going to be a lot of fun because you have. Norman Rita's from walking dead and also carrying Gillian from your fellow person in blue from. Cardi's at the the galaxy is going to be there to set. That's. Going to be here too. That's good I like that. Yeah Yeah and Norman of course that'll be fun. Nominee I just had been. Yeah Yeah it's a big family and. It really is the get to see your buddies and your pals. Stuff happens and in the in the old days when you're working you almost never see them again after you worked with them. But now we get to see each other fairly often if you if you had some. Of Cons. So. Cool. Yeah. Well, it's that time when the weather gets nice, it's convention season. That's how it is. You know. Record. I know you can't say much about guardians. Visits a guys haven't done the press yet and all that stuff and that will come. As we get close. Spoilers anyway. But so what was it like to work with James Again after you had of course had done. Moreton slithering he. Put all that gunk on you that stuff. Was it like to come back to him. In. Kawana. Torture me in some way. It's always. Well it's always worked with so and I was I, was very Excited and very quickly to. see. You Got Mitch Gig. Very happy for him and everything, and then to find out that he was Thinking of me and wanting to write something you know for me in the project I was like really thrilled. And then divide up and I couldn't really do it because I was on the walking dead was kind of a bummer and then and then it turned out again one wanted was. killed off in the long. Actually, end up doing the. Project Anyway. Amazing amazing. Amazing Process the grocer even though he was doing all the work all the writing and thinking and and. Doing with marvel and and having having all rewrite and all that stuff i. Get to enjoy the benefits in the end I ended up getting the role in ending up being a very happy camper because I went from food one of the top one of. The biggest TV shows in the world to what hopefully and I perceived to be one of the biggest summer hits in the in the. In in the in the which is going to be the cutting galaxy man it's going to be cool. Yeah. It's a great cast. You know there's so many cool people in this and what we've all seen so far looked really really Kohl's I'm totally Totally totally absorbed to it and and anxious to. C. See What are the what's happened with all the editing and all the? Special and all the other stuff you know. It all comes together. Very. Cool. Can you talk about what it was like the do the blue makeup. Airways. The make up that took about. A three and a half hours maybe. Along with dressing and getting ready. It took about four and a half five about five hours or so to be completely camera ready. And those. Are the two uncommon when it comes to doing James got. Moving for me I did sydor than. Outside And that was. Quite, a long time for make up that was more like seven hours, and so this is was sort of. a wing that. They're shorter. A prep time. All also in and that. Yeah I I like your I like your coat man has a really cool coach from pictures. I've seen. It looks really neat I. Think Everybody's water coat like that. It was really nice it. It would. Look at it. Offer texture a richness in. The design was very cool and and Designer were. Extremely, cool and and and CAL so. Man It. It looks really good and it was it was um not alike. was a with had a good. Head a very good wait for it. was very interesting and and Could come. And I'll tell you speaking of the walking dead man you're saying I think it was I. Think People's reaction was a guy that people didn't like Some hated and then in that scene you won over so many people because it was you're acting it was just he was like so cold distant and the normand's reaction, the combination of those two things. Are Throughout the throughout the our Morals are in that in that series. Even from the beginning. You can see that it wasn't gonNA be your. Your everyday average cliche. You know Redneck Okay Yeah. I mean Malls Mouths Dixon's very complicated character, very complicated and so To make sure I get a good job with that. Very important to me. So you played with it so that the And and and you know you find out you know. In my opinion, a lot of the comments that were made on the top. All the racist and sexist at me were not because. Well, this. Is Or is not a racist. Sexist. It was. In humor and just. Kurbanov. Coking. You know it was intentional. These comments were very extremely intentional. People weren't letting me go I mean they Abbas. Hiding. A real gig anymore. And they throw or being at and like or you know. Who you know basically I. I'M NOT GONNA. Stand up the. Beach. I mean come on. Already beat up five or Up Again I'm not hiring more and I've I've okay. Basically, why were they still keeping me? In the first place it was ridiculous. It was A punishment keep me in the corner and cut the to this. Is added my attitude. Or for often that that portion of of of the TV show. where? The only way I get you fast. Is Verbally So and all the verbal carbon I thought were were quite thought out in. Very cool. And and just indicated basically if you look at it again, it indicate. Exactly. How This guy is how he can. He can said what? Gets on your nerves, and so he says exactly what you don't want a year and and then you hear it and you get more upset more upset. During his causing justice I mean not making him get out. You come over there on cup and then he sooner. But Those comments I think are. Are His way of getting back it was. At at the people who are like you know. Keeping Mother Lock and key there. So I, of course. Nobody and nobody even thought ever in a million years they leave me there and I and it wasn't even intentional that they were either coming back trust me but. But, argued, happen. Someone to let G or. For Fourteen. That's right. That's all my Josh shout. Very. There was one one sequence in the second season where Merle wasn't really there. He was in Darryl's head. You Know Darryl was injured lost a little bit of blood. He was trying to climb up that hill and there is Merle combination of encouraging him taunting him. I thought the acting between both of you really surpassed. Zombie walking dead series. I thought it was just really good. Two brothers really going. Oh. Yes. Of course. Yeah. I see what you mean and it's so true. I mean it was such a Great a great a great. A great model sequence written sequence and then. All the stuff and I put in I just improvise you know in in air. At stuff that just sort of. Out of bloom you know. That's like you know when he's climbing and taunting in and I'm talking from the beginning of carbon yeah. When he's laying down there and he doesn't want to move and he's you know he's GonNa die basically you know so. he memory of his brother what his brother was like it starts playing over in his mind and is. This whole delusional thing becomes. Just beautiful beautiful motivational secrets. Like dealing itself mentally. So he didn't climb up at L.. Right, there was a great. gracing, there's more with Michael. Rooker. So stay tuned. Get back none of my conversation with Michael. Rooker and actually what was interesting to towards the end in the final episode for Merle was the scene with Mishaan to where you know he. He he just he does in about face and he. You. Know he just comes to a realization and I thought that was a really good scene for him. It really just really took into a whole. `nother level that was one of my favorite. Moments. And also that was that was offer friendly's idea girl there anyway. And I you know I don't don't I don't I don't think Marley wanted to take. that. Wasn't Merle the I mean. The formulating his own idea. Of How? The situation the whole thing Kidnapping bringing over their training. Your up was like that was the cops idea which is a bad idea to begin with and when he approached. Merle in. In in a prison they're. Giving that. What he would like renee. Tell Merle's or like are you serious That method damaged idea in the world you know. You head through with it. Basically nobody else would have done it. and. Though he stepped up to the plate and did it and then halfway through fertilize. Yeah. She doesn't want to go eat a really wanNA scraper and starts. Yeah, and plus I heard you crew. Make. Makes it. Better makes this stronger crew. So that my brother is going to have a better chance of surviving even better chance of surviving because she grew and not not. That in. Front of the Governor Your Company. So that was that was great a. Good motivating and good interesting stuff going on in that car when I find. Let her, walk you know. That was cool sequence. No. Yeah. You know just Kinda tap your your opinion about something about rural. Do you think he worked for the governor because he was working for him was a means to an end, but he really didn't care about what his philosophies were what a good job now. You ever to of philosophy. and. There's a couple of square meal of the day maybe one or two as he's one. You know some booze I mean. You know you don't see it but. Admiral did probably get some action there back our. You know in the in the. Z. You is easy worse now. So. Can I I just I know was no no. Real commitment. Gardner. Basically, the governor, the way we sort of the fact storing is that thousand alongside the road often. That history there. You know I felt obligated. Can't, answer. For that. And so yeah. Yes I became One. Pretty much is right. Hand you know is. Has. Your. Hand. Yes literally. Palm there's just so many layers to this guy he was he was really a cool character and. Really why? I cry sometimes is is you know like thinking about it and I go yeah. It was really cool and it was very very. Put together by the writer myself and it's a combination of everybody you know. I. I think about it and rewrite write a few things in my mind I change things. Motivate things my own way and you by using script writers road and then the director comes in and talk about stuff and it's like it's great collaborative effort. Then of course, working with the other actors change as well. So. The beautiful. Beautiful. What a wonderful cast that is just a just amazing. How Chris Crucial. Ahead Norman together Oh my God. I gotTa tell your air for if we had more scenes together. Come the. Zeros show my brother I. Was, your maiden? and You know maintenance person Norman's a great guy and. We together it was. It was. You know spark could. Chew see creative. Were happening. Almost seven cards. If people get the working at video game, you can't do it is immoral embarrassed. Earlier. A. Game that's right. I know it's cool. Surely. Cool. So you're at conventions. To people kind Kinda, keep their distance from you because of a Daryl, some of the other characters like Henry you play or are they pretty friendly towards? Merle yeah. Yeah. Now People are. Lovable. Come up for me. I am more popular now that character. has died in this series. I mean on the hearing. You don't know. If. You know this guys so A Lotta different ways you know you know. Pick you up healthy up as you offer our fifty up halfway in just clinging on over the edge. You're quite an interesting and so. Check audiences on the edge you know, and they didn't know what was going to happen with this guy or what he was going to do right and and then finding Tony Decides on what to do and one do I mean? You find out that Oh my God this cat is you really Got, what it takes I mean to to. Pay The price to sue to help you know and and help you're you're basically survivors and counter? For the. Present amazing and Socio. Yeah. That's something people really got that. You know the love and. International that would brotherly love stuff just in the whole family connection between the two last remaining six try. Is Crew and your you. And, the audiences. You know people come up all the time and is very much. You're little. have no idea. Who Michael Rooker is right. So they don't know how they know me. Shoot for the first time is approaching Mike Table, if I'm doing it you and a or something they don't they don't know. because. They just know the character of. Merle. Dick. They, they understand quickly Michael Rooker quaker. If. We do have to credit you for you know your your interpretation of Bill Broussard JFK. Thank you. You had one of the best lines in that movie and it's like, who do you know who your? Daddy? Daddy. And that's a great line in so true. But. He was he had like A. The cool thing about it is he was a nice. kind of counterpoint to what everybody was talking about. Morality to a little bit too that I thought was. You know he was looking bored I. was quite a complicated role as well. Yeah. His commitment to. Boston and his coworkers was superseded by his commitment to his country. Yeah. Seeing his vago off of Ethan and blaming everybody from from. Everybody right and. And really going in on the even the President United States. Right. That that was that was that was it you know he could take anymore and that were and fell. You saw. Portrayed onscreen added quite a quite a very cool. Pressured by other sources, you know sure on style. Very cool. Very cool. I'm glad you brought that up. Awesome stillness and get the play that character was In Canada, need I. Thinking about it, I'm going Wallin's you know. Target. China I the. Target. Never knew all. The era of course course you know he was. Great but I, just it was like one of those. Performances where you watch it and you go I. See that actor again and sure enough. or You go yeah it's Craig. I'm glad you get again and. I mean I got I got a comment when I did my first movie I didn't get the comment but I heard I heard a carbon. After, the movie's over I'm reading the movies and tell you I didn't when Henry serial killer. And I heard someone I I to four or five people army say oh. My God did actor will never work again. And and and so. I heard that in. The back of my mind, I'm going. Maybe, so But. you know after a movie like any you don't know when when. It's going to be perceived and everything. So yeah and but also in the back of my mind that you watch. Yeah. I'm a very. Open. Guy I don't give up and on your side just keep. Going man. That's the spread I do and. I, love what I do. So this is not like to Caen. So when I used. Keen to me creatively going. Yeah. So I I. I concur much and. So. I was like I heard that comment I was like, yeah. Okay. We'll see we'll see buddy. I we've got the last laugh on that. I mean you know you're going to be pumping one of the biggest movies this summer. So I think that guy you know it's like he's like the guy who told Elvis Presley should be driving a truck. You know people. You know people escort. They don't know they just don't know they don't get it. But. I really want to thank you for taking time to talk to me I. Think it's going to be fun convention this weekend and it'll be cool to see both of you guys together to and and even Karen you both you guys together from. Guardian. So you had that Nice overlap and that'll be fun I as a great overlap you. Great. Great Gal and and. Take a chance to be in Jiang another James Gunn movie. You know. Guardian. Thing for me was such extreme pleasure. Working with all the. All the great great challenge. And my goodness I can I can I can hardly wait until. An to folks start really ewing God. They're starting to gear up now. And it is just going to be crazy good and. It's always fun to see the in product in watch the audience. I enjoy making sitting back. And watching the watching. Now, the responding to unscreened Kinda cool. While share this year at comic con in San Diego. You guys will be able to say a little more and and show some more to so that'll be i. didn't you just started shooting their last year so we had and we actually flew in. We flew in from in. London and that's right. And then to back the next day. Changed. Its COMECON. It was amazing. Amazing. Yeah. Great. Have a great time at the convention and. I'm sure it's GonNa be fun and I think you've got a lot of career left despite what idiot said. He didn't know. Farming to that that horrific movie that was like. Carrion like Oh, my gosh. So You Buy. In not necessarily, some people were moved by it. posits like Oh. My Gosh this is so amazing. There are no cop cops there. No I mean the the senior real real. They're not like Hollywood it up. And so people really really extreme year intern on by that, and then there are people who were like I got a united here. I. Just I can't watch this anymore and we literally fifty percents if not more artists got up and just walk out almost. Faster same time. And we? As. Producers and actors and director, and they are we back the fact just silently clapping our hands like, oh, my gosh actually made people. Can Walk out the how awesome that? But that's hard to do people generally tend to. Stick it out right. Man would they got up and they? They got out of their. Thanks. That well, I mean it's a classic I mean there's just no other way. It really is people are still talking about it all these years and. New Teenagers Seventeen year olds I mean. People are brand new honest new audiences. Verse I I've encountered several, you know this year and and. And showing other trends are. Showing you all their friends. Like the beginning. I did it. You know all the. That's amazing. I manage to take care of yourself. We'll be seeing you around I'm sure. Special thanks to wizard world, and you'll be able to actually see Michael at some of the other conventions around the country for world just visit wizard world dot com for more information until the next Sifi talk this is Tony till auto. Thanks for list. Rucker. House you're listening to Sifi. Talk enjoy yourselves.

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Growing Up Paranormal: Des

The Ominous Hour

53:55 min | 9 months ago

Growing Up Paranormal: Des

"Today's episode was brought to you by anchor anchor is the easiest way to make a podcast. It has built-in creation tools to record and edit right from your phone or computer. It's free and it distributes to all your favorite streaming services. There's also ways to make money with no listener minimum. It's everything you need to make a podcast in one place. You can download the free anchor app or go to Anchor. FM to get started today. Welcome to the ominous our a 1-hour podcast dedicated to the spooky and weird side of life, and I'm your host Parker tirado. All right. Hey everybody and welcome to the ominous our I am here with Des who was nice enough to come and join us today and share some of their personal experiences. Everybody I'm Des I've grown up in a really weird paranormal home. So I'd love to roll my will experiences with you guys. So let's kind of just start off with like what are some like the earliest things that you remember happening? The earliest things I would remember were always seeing Shadow People in my room. Mostly the entire house. They just walked the house and whatever they please and no one at that age explained to me that there are such things as spirits and that some Spirits aren't always humid. So I was pretty scared of them as a kid until I later found out what they were. Sometimes. I see them standing at the foot of my bed. Sometimes they'd be standing in the bathroom a few times. I may have you seen them in my bathroom mirror. I know that shadow people are like one of the more common sightings that people see as far as paranormal stuff. I know I personally have seen them. They freaked me out as a child. Do you kind of just remember being like what the heck? Is that? Did you tell anybody like what was their reaction? When I first started seeing them know I didn't really tell anybody that is until my parents and I started watching Ghost Hunters back when it was on a Sci-Fi and they did an episode about show people and I was like Mom I see those guys in my room when the bathroom she was like really and I was like, yeah, I can actually see that. She's like be careful cuz sometimes they can they could be a little freaky and I'm like, don't worry. I'm not scared of them. Those think most people don't realize about Shadow People is they're not actually always dangerous. A lot of them are just genuinely curious about human nature and humans doing human things. So they like to watch you out from the Shadows just to see what you're doing. Right, cuz I know that there are are you know, there are a lot of ghosts and spirits that will disguise themselves as shadow people. There are you know, inherently wrong bad shadow people and then there are shadow people that simply could just kind of exists. That's just how they look. Yes exactly. I personally never encountered a bad shadow person. One of my favorite Spirits I call there cuz their calls are Companions and of my companions that always hangs out with me is actually a shadow per and he mostly just hangs in the doorway by my room. Just watching over everything making sure everything's okay. Now as you like God older, do you have any like stories or instances where there have been things that have like terrified you or things that were kind of thing is enlightening or what-have-you? Things like that? One situation that honestly opened my eyes all the weird wackiness of the occult and Supernatural was when I was a kid. I loved loved playing for ten so much that I would literally play as a dog with my own dogs. I didn't have any siblings my age. So this is what was my way of making up for that and there's one night. I slept out in the living room was doing this for 2 months at this point never had this situation come up. I couldn't follow up that night. I was having a very hard time and it was like two three hours past my bedtime at this point. And I'm like, I don't want to go on my room. I want to keep sleeping out here and I swear Something Told me just go in your room. It'll be fine. And I'm like, okay, that's weird. But I don't know why I'm just going to listen to it. I was ten years old at this point. So I always just listened to my gut and literally that night a drunk driver crashed into our living room and I could have died that tonight if it wasn't for whatever it was telling me to go in my room that is almost terrifying and endearing all at the same time. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, my parents my parents woke up. I did not I slept through it. Like nothing happened. I woke up the next morning and I was like, wait what happened? Why why is there a bush missing? Why is the house all teamed up there? Like the car crashed into the living room and like really dead? That's kind of when my eyes start opening to the fact that I might have spiritual power. When was you know getting into that portion? When was it when it finally clicked for you that hey there's something going on. I can you know, you'll see stuff that other people can't see and I this is a whole ordeal that I've had to deal with my entire life perfectly. It took the movie Scooby-Doo and the Witch's going to realize wow, there are real life people who do this stuff cuz they talked about what was her name horn. They talked about foreign being a Wiccan and I was thirteen at this point. So I got a little excited being like wait, what's Wicca so I started Googling it it started doing a bunch of research and I was like Wow, there are people like me who have bought seen Spirits their entire life, and I never even knew it. Do like this might be a little too personal and you can totally not answer it if it is but do you feel like the experiences that you had growing up? I know that you do a lot of spiritual practices and stuff as a profession. Do you think that that contributed to kind of that career choice is oh it definitely did. I was always saying as a kid if I had when I called Hollywood magic, I would definitely be a witch and I would definitely make money off of it off. That's something I've been saying ever since I was really little and then once I realized you can be a witch and then I realized there was a market for witchcraft services online. This is my profession. This is what I'm going to do for the rest of my life. So is it adult do you still see things do you still deal with things you know, you know as far as like ghosts and Shadow People down like a daily level so definitely definitely your disembodied voices stuff moves around my room. Sometimes I sometimes chilly C ROM version. It's not always just a scene with your third. I think cuz that's how it normally is for me that I just see them with my third eye but sometimes they full-blown apparitions usually like a black smoke or black Miss type thing. But yeah, sometimes I do see full-blown apparitions that come through my room and at this point I've kind of just got home with especially cuz I've grown to realize that there is a portal in my room because my room is lower level of helps and there is a portal so I'm like, okay well I don't know how to pose it yet. I haven't learned that and there doesn't seem to be any negative Spirits coming through. So I'm going to just leave it if they want to come in and see what I'm doing. That's fine. I just have the rule of no messing with anybody unless I give them permission no hurting anybody and stop touching my stuff. I feel that one cuz in my house, it's they love to do the disappearing item game. Yep, very, it is very very common. So as an adult, have you had any experiences that really kind of scared you or that you didn't know how to deal with? Not as an adult, but when I was sixteen and I'm willing to swear on my grandmother's grave over this when I was sixteen years old my ex-partner at the time like to mess around with a lot of Barker things things that I personally prefer not to get my hands to touch. But if he wanted to mess with it, I really couldn't stop him. So he end up being possessed a couple of times and the one time that really scares me is when I is arms and legs off the bed and read psalms 57 just to get him to calm down. It did not stop and read the whole prayer three times. That is Jose roffe. Oh, yeah, it was terrifying. I was scared. I truthfully didn't really consciously know what to do. I was just going off. With my gut instinct like I always do my gut told me grab your bible open it for Psalms 57 and read read read read read. And that's what I did. That's what I don't think there's a lot of like these, you know, like the baby which is or people who just kind of want to go and mess around a vehicle. I don't think that they realize how dangerous or scary that it can be especially for people like us who have kind of dealt with it their entire lives cuz people look at me and they think I'm crazy when I'm like no you don't disrespect you don't mess with me, you know Ouija board and all this other stuff if you don't have the proper training and it's like I don't say it for my own health. Yeah, I've noticed there are a lot of baby which is in a lot of which Lanes who think you could just bring an article or maybe three or four articles and you could Jump Right In with no. I am not waking when I do take the year and a day of study very very seriously in my practice. Anybody who studies underway has to do with the urine a day of starting before I left a mess with anything above a protection spell or schedule. Right, cuz I personally my path is Pagan mostly dealing with North Norse and Celtic path, but my boss has recently gotten into wanting to learn more and well they do assist me with things like we are always very careful about what we're doing. I am always teaching and guiding and it's just it's really disheartening to seeing like some of these baby which is come in and just I'm going to summon this I'm going to play with the Ouija board then they wonder why they end up with like haunted houses or they have stuff flying off their walls. Or the ones on Tik-Tok who decided it would be a good idea to hex the FAE so that was a whole mess and it not itself. Yeah, I I had bought a college eyes to this day that I work with on their behalf because I just felt that a shame in that bad about it. Like know they were going against everything. I taught myself and I was I learned to believe about the FAE and I'm just like, oh no you weren't going to get so much bad karma and negativity towards you that you might as well just say your prayers right now and never touch witchcraft again, right? I did something similar. I kind of like I left an offering cuz I work with the say pretty regularly and I'm just like here's this I'm not part of that I work with you for how long that I have nothing to do with that mess over there that's going on. Yes, I even went so far as to spruce up the plants. I have that my faith a live in and just to show them. I respect you what they are doing has nothing to do with me or my practice. I thank you guys for your help and thank you for everything you've done for me. Please understand that they are just young and they don't know what they're doing. So moving forward. Where do you kind of see yourself going is obviously you're you're very gifted and you take your your practice and everything very seriously. Where do you see yourself ending up as far as along your path that you're going now? True sweet. I'm hoping I know this sounds a little egotistical but I always idolized this one. I pray I could walk in the same footsteps as Lorraine Warren. I would love to take over where she left off and just become the new generation version of her I would be so honored. So honored just kind of where I'm hoping that comes how do you kind of think that you'll get there just wage? Like how do you plan to get to that point or do you not know yet? Well, my first step was opening my own occult and online Apothecary. I'm hoping to get more people informed and knowledgeable about spirits and the afterlife in the astral and I'm hoping to eventually make my own YouTube channel where I document all the different crazy Adventures I go on and maybe have a couple like table session there. I bring in people who are not of vehicles and have them ask me questions and I answer their questions honestly with real life answers. And I know we had talked very briefly about having you being a reoccurring a guest here on the ominous hour. And I mean, I would I really love that idea to have you come in and kind of as a an outside kind of sounding board on different things in different stories like it's submitted. I would love to do that. I I have such an extreme knowledge about spirits and occult. And the astral I would like to do a girl's point and a good 70% of my time in the astral doing whatever is I don't really recommend that people unless you know how to tether your soul to your buddy. Like I'm able to do it takes a lot of practice and a lot of Ender's to be able to be able to tether off or else you could potentially lost or something could come in and take over your body will not to mention. You also have to kind of like protect and shield yourself while all that's going on so you don't get off at the same time. Yes, exactly. That's why I only asked to project in my room because I have words in barriers up which are really important to Spirit work many jobs will be which is our understanding the importance of wars and barrier and I heavily emphasized. If you're going to mess around with the spirit, you gotta protect yourself off first and not many people understand. They think it's just something to jump into no. No, it's not a pool. It's not a fool. It's the open ocean. You want to be same you want to be safe? Right? And I know like personally just speaking about my own personal path for a second here when I had made the cuz I had dabbled in things out of instinct for quite a while. But when I first made that real jump into paganism and Wicca and stuff it was because I had been dead. Backed by something a cult and my main purpose was okay. I need to figure out how to protect myself cuz obviously I can't do anything in the Physical Realm. Yes. Exactly. That's sort of where are my interest in witchcraft Came From. Italy. I used to be really heavily bullied as a kid because I was always the black sheep of the group and I wanted the way to protect myself and reclaim the power that was lost for me and I found out about wage Ralph and it's literally all about owning your own power. But making sure you're safe while doing it and I was like, yes, that's perfect for me. I'm too weak to fight these wage is so I could use magic to Ward them off. Now do you have any like advice or anything that you would want to say to people who might be listening who are growing up here. Normal and that weird area where they might not exactly know what's going on and they're just scared and they're just seeing stuff. They can't explain. My first piece of advice is always checked yourself first nine times a few a few times more often than not it's not always a spiritual thing. It could be like stress-related. I know there are some people who see things when they're stressed or they experienced things that are weird and others when they're stressed and that's sadly the case more often times than not but if you ruled out all things is a call all things mental. I'm telling these people who are listening they're growing up in these homes is going to be okay. It's going to be okay. You got to stand your ground. You have to make the spirit know. You gotta make sure you're safe while doing it. So get in the wars and barriers and all that but you have to let the spirit. This is my space. You are just a guest here. If you do not behave I will evict you and usually it's best to give them a set of a short set of rules to follow. That's kind of how it is for me whenever a new spirit pops up in my room, whether they're staying forever or whether they're just passing through I let them know. This is not my home. You were just here and you need to respect it. As long as you respect it and follow XYZ rules. We will get along just fine and I will not walk. I know recently here myself. We inherited a house that somebody had been living in and we moved in and all their stuff was still here and we'll have a game. And it was just it was full of shadow people and there's a ghost dog and all this other stuff and it had eventually gotten to the point where I had to go through with herbs and smoke them out and just be like listen. This is not your home anymore. We're here we're staying you can either live, you know and coexist. You can leave so I believe that's how it has to be some point. Sometimes you need to use cleansing herbs or cleansing incense and just took them out to smoke them out as much as you can you some people recommend that you keep the window closed. I like to keep the window open because in my practice I could feel it gives the spirits of place to run out there not just running around doing circles in the Smoke. They're escaping right? He there personally what I do is wrong. Like to either cover or take down any mirrors if possible and I'll open up my blinds and my curtains and stuff and I'm like, here's the exit. You gotta go home. Yep. Yep, and two people who do have mirrors. If you can't cover the whatever reason usually a nice cleansing and then a clean is the best thing to do because some people are not able to always cover their mirrors. Sometimes they're like nailed for a wall, right? So what are some of your favorite parts of having abilities or what are like some of your favorite interactions that you've had? My favorite interaction to date has been when I met my familiar surbhi I love this hellhound with everything in my being one day when I was just chilling in my basement. I heard what sounded like a dog whimpering and I looked around both of my dogs were asleep next to me. So I'm like, that's weird. So I went into the astral. I don't recommend this for everybody. I really do not unless you are heavily experienced in spirit wage. I do not recommend it at all. This is something I personally done for years and I feel safe in myself to do it. I do not recommend it to other people, but then I song This little Pitbull looking like puppy on the other side of my basement and I don't have a pitbull I have Chihuahuas. So I knew that was a spirit right away and she was lost she ran through a portal that ended up coming into my basement and she didn't know how to get back. Well, I ended up, you know showed her the way and then a few days later she ends up coming back being like hey, I like year. I want to live with you and at this point when she showed up she had two extra heads and I'm like, oh you're a Cerberus. That's what you're doing here. So she kind of raised her myself. I kind of consider her like a child to me cuz I raised myself and I gave her the name sir be so, you know Cerberus survey. It just had to work so she kind of hangs out with you from time to time. Help me do my manager stood up. I give her things and exchange for helping me to Spirit in my room and control and you know, she's free to come and go as she pleases to do her Cerberus duties obviously, but it's just it's the most heartwarming experience I've ever had with Spirit most heartwarming I've ever had that definitely had to be a shock though. Go Thursday from oh, there's my Chihuahuas to just this big ass puppy. Oh, yeah. It was definitely a shock. It was even more of a shock when I found out she could change this her birth size. So one day I just see this six foot tall Cerberus walking in my room when I'm like who are used? She's like, it's the me. I'm like, oh, oh you can get em, don't do that down here. That scares me. That is very adorable. That is awesome. Are there any other stories that you would want to tell us that have kind of like your life? Oh, definitely. There's this other time that I met this one human Spirit named Miguel this one I swear I started off in a little bit after hearing his story one day. I just heard this was sounds like a person crying on the other side of my basement and I'm like, there's no one else down here, but me and my partner at the time and I'm like you hear that right? He's like no you don't hear that crying. He's like no. No, I'm like, all right. That's it. I'm investigating. This is freaking me out. Well, there was this poor poor little dude and it's just such a heartbreaking story. I found him curled up with him. His chest crying in my basement and he's like, I don't know where I'm at. All I remember was being with my friends and we were doing you know, he was hissing and all I remember is going black and now I'm here. I'm like, oh honey. No, no, basically his friends accidentally caused him to OD and it was very heartbreaking like my heart broke for him. And I allowed him to just hang out with me for a while cuz he was a human spirit. So I knew he was eventually going to cross over and just one day I noticed huh. I had seen Magill in the wild. I wonder where he went and you know, I eventually realized that he what he found his way to Eternal happiness and I felt so happy for him cuz I'm like, yes, I help him. I gave him a place to feel safe while he's in this new Freaky scary environment and he got okay with long enough to where he was able to go to whatever afterlife he deemed was good enough for him. None like that warms my heart that makes me so happy. I'm glad I do miss Miguel cuz he was very fun to hang out with and I was hearing the stories, but I'm glad he moved on because that means he finally found peace and in the end that's really all that matters wage. human spirits now have there been any I know you said about you know, helping him pass, you know over to go to the light and what have you have you ever been any instances where you've had to do that with others. Maybe even force them to leave. I actually have yes for two friends of mine. I had to do two separate bands machines because I don't like to call them exorcisms. I feel that way too tied to the Christian church. I just don't want to dip my toes into that. So I called them and she and it was really the first time I did it. It was a little intimidating cuz I've never gone it for another person before but it was also a really nice feeling once I actually got it wrong because in the beginning you could feel just like this block of energy just like this evil dirty carpet of energy as soon as you walk through the door and I was like, oh oh, oh no. No, no, no. No, this is not good. And as soon as you know, my ritual was over and everything was said and done it. It felt like a whole new a whole new home. Like the light was shining the birds were chirping type stuff. It was beautiful. It was very beautiful. I I actually do kind of offer these services for people who are in the same state as me off because I understand that not everybody either wants to go through the church or has the time to wait for the Vatican to approve in the system. So for the people who are open-minded to my craft and my services, I tell them hey, I'll help you. I'll give you a helping hand. I'll banish the spirit and I promise you it will knock back cuz I've never advert as of yet ever had instance were any Spirits have come back? I think that Like a lot of people don't realize how hard it is to get help especially specifically from like the Vatican in the church, cuz I think a lot of people have this misconception that you can just go to any Catholic church and be like, hey, I need you to kick this guy out of my house. And that's not how it works is not how it works at home early would media has severely misrepresented the process who have to go through to get an approval for an exorcism which is why a lot more people are opening their minds to the idea of Witchcraft mediums and psychics because of how lengthy of a process it is get an approval. Some people have to wait multiple years just for the Vatican even say no let alone. Yes, right cuz you have to go and you have to petition the Vatican you have to go through the psychiatric evaluation. They then have to make their decision and there are a lot of cases where like for instance if it has something to do with Native people a lot of the time I'm a Christian exorcism won't even work on them exactly what people don't really realize is that your culture that you were either born into our life influenced by can heavily affect which types of spiritual Services can help you. Most people don't realize that like for me personally, I believe that all religions and all that you exist on different spiritual planes that each one is real right and like I've had heartedly, you know, I've had instances where there are people like walk in groups cuz I joined a lot of you know Pagan Wiccan groups what-have-you when I first started practicing and there would be people in there. Like hey, I see this thing. Hey, I see that thing a like. Oh, well, you just have to burn this and just like no that's not going to work because if you're seeing this data, that means he's from this thing and that probably isn't going to work. You need to go find somebody for that culture to deal with him. Yes. Yes exactly which is why I really think it is heavily unfair that in America, especially there are not that many unorthodox quote unquote religious temples and stuff like that where people of these cultures can go to and get help they have to go through even more expensive process the gain approved by the Vatican just to find somebody to help them let alone if the approval for help. Right and I mean and going into that there were also a lot of people online and what have you that are kind of what I like to walk and quote, you know, fake psychics fake mediums fake which is that will taken over three hundred bucks. I'll come and I'll exercise your house and you're out three hundred bucks and you know, Bob and then is still terrorizing you yes. Yes exactly. I've I've personally haven't run in into any fakes in real life, but I have met a few online and I could tell right off the bat if they have no idea what they were doing. They had no respect for the spiritual practices that they were ripping off and I guarantee that karma is going to come back them way worse than they could ever. Imagine just for them pulling the veil over people's heads and making the big. Oh, hey, I'm real and I'm going to help you and then come back and changes, right and then I mean there are a lot of people who kind of just do things to themselves and I honestly just don't have any pity for those people like people who like continually mess with the Ouija boards and don't understand. Hey I am, you know screwing with my own shit or like I mean, I do have some sympathy 4 p.m. Like in cases like Poltergeist where they have repressed abilities and you know, it comes out in other ways and they don't understand what's coming on but people who just sit there and refused to take the steps to try to hurt themselves when they're messing with their own stuff. I just oh my God. Yes, especially with Ouija boards. I like the warm people never buy a Ouija board from a store never buy a second-hand week before if you want to mess with a month award save up money for a customized one because you put your own personal protective and banishment sigils into it off. Your magic is already going to be infused into it at that point and you're adding the extra oomph by making sure it's protection and banishment as long as you follow the rules of a gboard. Nothing bad will happen to you. Right and I had one case where there was this couple and they took and they had gotten this store-bought Ouija board and they were messing with it and stuff and then they couldn't understand why they had growling and they had stuff harassing them at night and in short. I basically had to come in hold a seance wage. Close the portal that the Ouija opened up vanish whatever was in their house and then I took their Ouija board and I have it walked down in my partner's room. Yep. Yep. Sadly that is how it has to go. I have a few demons that could not be banished. But I also do entrapment laws and what that what I consider that to be is you take a vessel you cleanse it, you know purify it, you know, feel it all that stuff and you took the spirit into that vessel. I actually have a few have you know locked away in my room because these were such powerful spirits that if I let them continue to roam. All they're going to do is just cause harm to more people right? I actually also have done that with quite a few Spirits one in particular is one that likes to walk around as a little girl. We kind of nicknamed her Alice cuz we sealed her a pocket watch but she is kind of what I like to refer to as a Devourer she goes around and she will absorb a Their spirits and I basically had to entrap her in this pocket watch because she was just causing too much chaos to harmless entities around me back or I just in general becoming too big of herself and just trying to mess with shit and I was like, nope. That's not going to fly. We've got to put you in this and this is where you reside now, he's long as you follow. The rules will be hunky-dory. Yes. Yes, sadly. There are a few times that you're going to just have to lock the Spirit Away. Everyone thinks. Oh you banish it you exercise that. That's the end-all be-all of it. Well what happens when the spirit leaves gets even stronger and comes back and get you. Well, you're at that point. You're just going to have to trap it in something and not let the little jerk out right cuz just checking them out of the house so to speak. Is not always the fixel, especially when you have cases, we're not necessarily the home or the property or the item is haunted but the person itself when you have that kind of attachment and you can't necessarily suffer the attachment for one reason or another you're going to keep having that Spirit come back and then what do you do? Yes, and sadly. I've I've learned this personally. I have a few attachments myself that even though these people and Spirits are no longer in my life. I still feel that course. Sometimes there are just some attachments that are too powerful to break on your own. Sometimes you do need to call and help may I have your wholesale cleansed and purified and whatever's in there just ripped out right? Like I so I think that I actually personally I kind of have an attachment of my own so I had moved away from my home town and I was like living here and we would hear song Santa music box mind you we did not own a music box. We didn't have the music box in the house, but we would hear this music box music and then I moved away and nobody Heard It Off. When I inherited this house and I moved back after seven years and my grandmother calls me. She's like we're doing yard work outside your house. So you can move in and bring Furniture in we heard the damn music box. I'm like are you kidding me? Yes music is a spirit favorite way to let them know that you are there it sits there as their favorite way. I've noticed I have a few Spirits myself off like to make different musical sounds and it's kind of to the point where I've just tuned it out unless it's a different sound than normal cuz I've noticed which ones are they're usable sounds and then there are ones or sometimes like it doesn't sound normal. I don't go make sure they're okay, right and I just I thought it was so almost funny that the music box stopped When I moved away for seven years and then as soon as it realised, I was coming back. It was like, oh Parker's home. We have to go say hi. Yep. Yep, when I moved away for a year. My mother would actually refused to come down in my room alone because she was always hear random knocking or brandom disembodied voices and she knew I was not living down here. Nobody else was living down here at time to a really long and I'm like Mom don't worry. It's just a spirit. They're probably lonely cuz I'm not there anymore. Just be like, hey leave me alone. I just want to do laundry and I'm going upstairs and they'll leave you alone. So do you have like any pet peeve behavior that spirits will do like for me personally. I really hate it when they do the we're just going to pop out out of nowhere thing and they're just like hey there I'm just like he not pop out of the wall. It scares me. One thing I really really think most is when my shadow companion. My little shallow person companion will just randomly appear in the darkest of corners. And that's all I can see is this human word outline and these blood red eyes and I'm like broke. What are you doing? Stop doing that and he gives me a little Snicker and walks away and I'm like you are with your you are such a jerk as you did that on purpose. Obviously. All I can think of is just the sleep paralysis demon means yes life is he is the embodiment of those means because he thinks they are hilarious and he likes to recreate them. So as far as like let's talk about that for a minute because people who mistake sleeper are paralysis if I can talk right through like hauntings and what-have-you. How would you suggest they go about debunking that? My favorite way to go about debunking whether it's sleep paralysis or if it's a spirit or these to test the first simple test is what you can do while sleep where else is is happening. Now most of the time during sleep paralysis, you are usually not able to move your body the best way to get yourself out of it is to try wiggling your finger. I am not kidding on this try to wiggle your finger try to get the feeling back in your fingers try to move your hand and eventually you will snap out of it. If that doesn't work then it's best to set up some type of recording device whether it be voice recording or video recording or both set up some type of recording device while you're asleep and see what you catch cuz more often than not. Yep. It is a spirit. You will catch it on video because their electromagnetic frequency shows up on video and audio very very easily home and just for like I think we're running out of time here, but just one last thing I wanted your opinion as somebody who is a professional spiritual practitioner on things such as like media representation of like the ghost hunting shows where they bring in like the mediums and all of that stuff. What do you think about that. That with a grain of salt if you really Vibe with a TV medium or anything like that who your research? That's what everyone else is about in any type of approach anything who your research research and research and research and research cuz if you sign even dead One article that says they're a bad egg take everything they say with a grain of salt because a true medium usually never gets any bad results, right? Cuz I just like the reason I asked this is because I remember growing up, you know in you know, this Paranormal Activity going off and I remember first seeing ghost hunters cuz that was the first aha moment for me just like oh so this isn't all in my head and then I remember down the road seeing ghost adventures just young or freaking stupid you're going to you're going to do that. You're going to purposely piss it off and then you're wondering why you're getting stuff thrown at you. Yes Ghost Adventures really really makes me mad sometimes especially after Nick left. Does it make me mad they purposely go out of their way to intimidate and make Spirits angry and that's one thing I always dress you should never do always come in with respect but with confidence, that's the key. You don't want to make them angry you want to respect them, but you need to be confident in yourself and your abilities or they will take advantage of your weakness. All right, cuz I remember when you know, they weren't exactly that big and they would go into like personal homes instead of like these large locations and they would stir stuff up and I just remember feeling so bad cuz I know as soon as they leave these families are going to have more to deal with than one way they were there. Sadly that's seems to be a common thing, especially with Zach and I've noticed that as the show has progressed further the ends up going back to a couple of those places and they're still spiritual activity there. Right? Cuz personally is somebody who has dealt with the Paranormal throughout their life. I feel that if you are going to get into the ghost hunting industry and try to dig up, you know this proof and what have you that you do have a moral obligation that you need to get these people in touch with Services, whether it's having a catalogue of mediums or private spiritual practitioners or what have you that page then help these people. Yes gathered the proof gather whatever information that you have to you know, oh, well, this is a vengeful spirit. This is a you know, a sad spirit. This is you know something on Thursday. Manik plane, but then give this proof over to somebody who then can properly handle it and properly help these people. Yes, exactly and that it's sad that most Ghost Hunters jobs nowadays not do that. It's really important to be like, okay, here's evidence a b c and d that you do have a spirit. We are recommend some birth to you. They can help you remove them from your home. So you can live feeds right and I feel like almost that Ghost Hunters would get almost dead more clientele out of it that way because it's like yes, these people came in not only did they get me this proof, but they also took and got me these services that I needed to help get the issue. Yes, yes, it definitely would get them a lot more clientele if they offered help with the evidence to unfortunately though. That's a lot of what I see especially living in central Pennsylvania and having lived. So close to Gettysburg the few times that I did visit down there. There are a lot of homegrown Ghost Hunters and a lot of goes hunting what would I call tourism and they go and they buy up these properties and they run out these properties and then nothing gets resolved for the spirits and then if somebody comes in and they sell the property or they no longer rent the property then it goes to a new owner and then the new owners then have to deal with this problem of you know, all these people coming through and leaving their residual energy and the ghost that's already there and it's it's a mess. Yeah, I personally do not like the tourism so to speak of ghost-hunting and spiritual activity because people are jumping into this thinking it's some type of game that they could just joke around with little haha the spirit were Rock know there's a good chance you're going to go home tonight and there's going to be some standing at the foot of your bed. And what are you going to do that you're going to call right? Cuz you can't call, you know, you go to this place and you go on the ghost or in your poking front of the ghosts and it follows you home. They're not going to care. If you call them in the middle of the night. There's something standing at the foot of my bed. Like I just bought Tourism of it. I just makes me upset because they have all their just creating new issues. But I do understand though that there are some things like, you know, the old emails and stuff where you can kind of respectfully walk through and stuff because there is just so much saturated in that area that you can't do anything with I can understand that and doing a respectful approach to that. But just the tourism industry part of it is just ridiculous. It's a very very ridiculous. Especially the older the property is it's it is a combination of spiritual and residual energy and thoughts. It's usually best just not open those places to the public cuz there is a good chance some of these going to get hurt or so at the very least get in the attachment and they're not going to have anyone that helped them or anyone to call when this stuff starts going AWOL not to mention like these home-grown Ghost Hunters who have like YouTube YouTube channel and stuff who you know do the trust passing and they just go about the whole thing wrong because not only are you picking up stuff. You're also showing hey, this is where this place is and while I trust past so, you know what's stopping, you know, some fourteen-year-old kid from going in the abandoned Messiah woman falling through the floor. Yeah, that's one thing. I always always warn people against if you want to do your own ghost-hunting stuff. That is fine. But get permission from your local law enforcement and if the property has an owner from the owner of that property to as it's not just about respecting the living it's also about respect the dead and if you are showing off online that you're trespassing in a haunted place other people are going to be doing it too and not only will the law get mad. But Soul spirits that reside there not to mention whatever legal repercussions could come from it because they have all this stuff now to track your IP you can you can just upload your your ghost-hunting video onto YouTube the next thing, you know, the sheriff Decker it is at your house and he's like, what were you doing out there? Yep, and it's all on video. So you can't say you were doing anything because they saw the video. They saw that you were there and you were definitely going to get in legal trouble for it. It's best to just never trust past due any ghost hunting stuff and stay out of cemeteries at night unless you've got explicit permission to stay out of cemeteries at night and so rude to be doing that. And if you're there during the day make sure that you're respectful. You're not trashing the headstones. You're not leaving garbage like you gotta be like you don't want to piss off the dead people cuz God forbid. There's a zombie apocalypse. Yes, God forbid. There's a zombie apocalypse or for those who do believe in the Rapture. You do not want to make those Spirits mad when they come rising out of the ground ready to take somebody saw. All righty. I think we hit our one hour mark. I want to thank Des for common and chatting with me. It was very fun. I'm so glad I was able to share my experiences and I hope I invite and some people too and I hope that we're going to have you back at some point and I'm going to link some of those has taken so in the description here so you can go check out their their Etsy and whatever else they might have so you can see all that fun stuff. Thank you. Thank you very much for having me. I would definitely love to come back sometime soon. Definitely. All right, I think that's it. And I think we're going to call it and end of an episode. That's all for tonight's episode remember to like and follow on all of your favorite streaming services, and I'll see you next time on the ominous hour.

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Ars Goetia Pt3

Ominous Origins

19:48 min | 2 weeks ago

Ars Goetia Pt3

"Hello again and welcome to another episode of the ominous origins. Podcast with me. Casey courses episode is still brought to you by the wonderful people over morbidly. Beautiful dot com moberly. Beautiful your one stop shop for all things horror. Pop culture related from interviews reviews top ten lists and well everything in between they'll have an extensive library podcast which i highly suggest you checkout including my newest one cheer and loathing featuring stephanie the editor in chief of morbidly beautiful now to apologize again for missing last week i have been shooting a short film and i just finished it up. So that is why. I've been kinda taken a backseat with the podcast lately. I do apologize but it should be back to more regular schedule at least three month. Sometimes maybe two. We'll see how it goes until the rollout of the film happens. And i can kind of focus back on the podcast itself but today we are going to continue our look at the ours. Goretti era and the demons involved with it they will be looking at the prince's and the marquess. So sit tight ominous ominous. It is an adjective breathing. Just like the last couple of episodes we will be looking at these specific demands in order so starting off with the princes. We have the saga he's a mighty prince of hell ruling over twenty six legions of demons. He can be persuaded to tell. The magician of events past and future can discover hidden and lost things and has a good nature a partial description from the lesser keys of solomon states as follows quote. The third spirit is a mighty prince being the scene. Nature as address is called the sago. This spirit is of good nature and his office is declare things past and to come and to discover all things hid or lost according to the labor of him spiritual. He manifests as an angel. Next up we have tree. Also a great prince of hell and reigns over sixty legions of demons. He causes men to love women and vice versa and can make people bare themselves naked if desired sounds like a good guy to have around at a party to be honest use depicted with the face of a leopard and the wings of a griffin. But under the conyers request he can change into very beautiful man number three. We have the count or prince. I've hosts and is described an earl and a very powerful prince of hell who has thirty six legions of demons under his command. He knows and can reveal all things past present and future which is a common theme amongst many of these demons. He can make men witty and valiant. He's commonly depicted with the body of an angel with the head of a lion a tale of a hair and the feet of a goose. It's a funny sounding little guy less frequently in the same shape but with the body of a lion and rarely as vulture next up is gap. He's a president. Great president of hell even commanding sixty six legions of demons. He's according to the lesser key of solomon the king and prince of the southern region of hell and earth and according to these pseudo demonic horia their modem he's also the king of the western region and as mighty as both but for both he's the guide of the four kings he said to be better conjured to appear when the sun is in southern zodiac sign gap specifically controls the element of water and reigns over the water elephants or the water demons gap teaches philosophy and all liberal sciences. He can cause love or hate and make men insensible and invisible deliver familiar out of the custody of other. Magicians teaches how to consecrate those things that belong to the dominion of a m-mad. His king gives true answers. Concerning the past present and future and carry and recap ben and things speedily from one nation to another at the conjures will according to a few authors. He can make men ignorant according to these pseudo demonic. Harriet ammonium certain necker. Master's honor him with sacrifices and burning offerings. He's depicted in human shape number five. We have another great prince in stolas. He commands twenty six legions of demons. He teaches astronomy and is knowledgeable about herbs plants and precious stones. He's often depicted as a raven or a crowned with very long legs number six on the great princes is or bass having twenty legions of demons under his control. He supposedly gives transfers of things past present and to come divinity and the creation of the world he also confers dignities and policies and the favor of friends and foes or bass is faithful. The conjurer does not permit that any spirit tempts him and never deceives anyone. He's depicted as a horse that changes in two men under the conjures request. The name could also come from the latin orbis type of incense and last but not least number seven we have sear prince of hell with twenty six legions of demons under his command. He can go to any place on earth in a matter of seconds to accomplish the will of the conjurer bring abundance health and finding hidden treasures or in robbery and not a demon of evil but of good nature being mostly indifferent to evilness. He's depicted as a man riding a winged horse and is said to be beautiful and that brings us to the end of our princes of hell next up. We have the marquees so we'll just give writing to it number one. We have game again. He's a great marquees of hell. Who rules over thirty legions of demons. He teaches all liberal. Sciences in gives an account of the souls who have died in sin. That's a lot of souls and who drowned in the sea. Which is odd be specific. He speaks with a rough voice. He also answers what is asked about and stays with the conjurer until he or she is satisfied. Geoghegan depicted as a little horse or a donkey which changes form into a man under the conjures request. Number two is am on. He governs forty infernal legions. He appears as a wolf with a serpent's tail who can breathe fire or as a man with a raven's head sometimes depicted with canine teeth. He tells of all things past and future he procures. Feuds and reconciles controversies between friends and foes number three there. I is a great marquis of hell. Who has thirty legions of demons under his power. He causes great battles and disputes. He makes gangrene wounds caused by. He's depicted as a gallant and handsome archer. Cladding green carrying a bow and quiver number. Four is demon. Nab various and use i mentioned by head. Weird and fifteen eighty three. He supposedly the most valiant of the marquee of hell and has nineteen legions of demons under his command. He makes men cunning in all arts but especially in rhetoric speaking with a hoarse voice that hoarse voice but like ours voice he also restores lost dignities and honours. Although to your we're he procures the loss of them. New various appears as a three headed dog or a raven is of rock. His voice but presents himself as an eloquent and admirable. He teaches the art of gracious. Living is depicted as a crow or a black crane concerning his name. It is unclear. If there's an association with the greek cerberus it said that in eighteen fifty three johann we're considers both of them to be the same demon. He claimed quote nefarious alias. Cerberus is a valium. Marquees shoeing himself in the form of a crow when he speaking with a hoarse voice. He maketh a man amicable and cunning in all arts. So fair enough. There's a connection between cerberus and nubia potentially anyway next we have the marquee or count ruin avai. He's also a great of hell. Commanding twenty six legions of demons. He teaches rhetoric languages and gives good and loyal servants and the favor of friends and foes is described as a monster holding a staff but without detailing his appearance. He's also described as a taker of souls often coming to earth to harvest human souls of decrepit humans and animals near death number six fortius and he is twenty nine legions of demons under his rule he also teaches rhetoric. Languages gives men a good name and makes them to be loved by their friends and their foes is depicted as great sea monster. His name seems to come from the latin fornace or furnace. Which means oven number. Seven is marco sissies is a powerful and great marquis of hell commanding thirty legions of demons. He's a strong an excellent fighter and is very reliable to the conjurer giving true answers to all questions mark ozias hope after twelve hundred years to return to heaven with the non-fox of angels but he's deceived in. That hope is depicted as a wolf with a man's form as well as a griffin's wings and a serpent's tail that under request changes shape into a man the name marcos comes from the late latin murchio or marquee number eight. We have phoenix which also could be pronounced phoenix. He's also a great marquee of has and has twenty legions of demons under his command. He teaches all wonderful. Sciences is an excellent poet and is very obedient to the conjurer phoenix hopes to return to heaven after twelve hundred years as well by. He is also deceived in this hope. He's depicted as you guessed it. A phoenix which seems sweet notes with the voice of a child but the conjurer must warn his companions not to hear them and ask him to put in human shape which the demon supposedly does after a certain amount of time yohannan. We also describes this demon the same way in the suit. Amman ikaria dimona number nine. We have sabe knock also spelled a bunch of different ways including sav knock sal mac and sadak. I'm driving to try to spell those ones for you. There's way too many. He's a mighty marquis of hell who's fifty legions of demons under his command. He builds high towers castles and cities furnishing them with weapons and ammunition gives good familiar and can afflict men for several days making their wounds and sores gangrenous or filling them with worms. I'm not sure which one is. More sap knock is depicted as a soldier with armor and weapons the head of a lion and riding a pale horse the next great marquee of helis shacks and he has power over thirty legions of demons on evil horses. He takes away the sight hearing and understanding of any person under the conjures request and steals money. Out of kings houses carrying it back to the people had like a robin hood. Figure the also steal horses and everything. The conjurer asks shacks can also discover hidden things if they're not kept by evil spirits and sometimes gives good familiar. 's but sometimes those familiar to deceive the conjurer. He should not be bothered too often. Shacks is thought of to be faithful and obedient. But it's a great liar and will deceive the conjurer unless obliged to enter a magic triangle drawn on the floor you then speak marvellously and tell the truth. He knows when lies are told and uses those lies to teach. Lessons is depicted as a stork. That speaks the horse and subtle voice. His voice changes into a beautiful one points. He enters the magic trying. Goal number eleven. We have aureus. I think we've covered before actually. And he has thirty legions of demons under his command. He knows and teaches the virtues of the stars of the mansions of the planet's he also gives dignities policies and the favor of friends and foes and can metamorphose man into any shape number twelve. We have andress. He has under his command thirty legions of demons. He sows discord among people. According to go at here andress was a great marquis of hell appearing with the winged angels body and the head of an owl or raven riding upon a strong black wolf and wielding a sharp and bright sword us also responsible for sowing discord and commanded. Thirty infernal legions. He is he sixty third of the seventy two spirits of solomon andrews was considered to be a highly dangerous demon who could kill the conjuring magician and his assistants if precautions were not taken johan. We're in his pseudo. Monica demon says of andress offices agreed marquees and seems in an angel shape with the heavy black night raven riding upon a black and they're strong wolf he rushing with a sharp sword in his hand. You can kill his master. The servant and all assistance is the author of discord and ruth. thirty legions. It does appear that andreas was the popular as colin diplomacy also mentions office in his writings next lucky number thirteen we have and dreyfuss and he appears as the fifty fourth demon in. You'll hen weir's home of dima -nology and is described as a great marquee with the appearance of a peacock who raises great noise and teaches cunning and astronomy and when in human form also teaches geometry in a perfect manner is also described as ruling over thirty legions and as having the ability to turn any man into a bird also appears sixty fifth demon in the guardia where he is described with similar traits also including the ability to make men subtle in all things pertaining to miseration among other things number fourteen. We have cameras is most widely known as the sixty. Sixth demon the first part of the limit guitar on also known as the ours as he is described as a warrior riding a godly black horse and possesses the ability of locating lost or hidden treasures teaching trivia grammar logic rhetoric and making a man into a warrior of his own likeness. He holds the rank of marquee and is served by twenty legions. He also rules over all of the spirits of africa much. The same description is found in the earlier. Texts of johann weird catalog of demons earlier still is the munich. Handbook of necropsy. Cll eight four nine which lists an entity named to reassess with much the same characteristics except that he is thirty legions of doors and can cause a person to cross seas and rivers quickly most likely to reverse his a mis transcription of cameras also found in anton vase a list of infernal names. Although it is not known why love h hose cameras as one of the comparatively few. Go at ick demons. He did also crowley in seven seven seven. Great year year gives morris the hebrew spelling of con- var which is k. y. m. a. The are and attributed him to the four disks and third deacon of capricorn by night. It is probable that the earliest mention of camara says. Also coptic found in the london oriental. Mss six seven. Nine six. The name i ca thema kamara appears in this text. The entity in question does not appear to be evil rather he's addressed as a godlike helping spirit baskin's dictionary of satanism speculates said chimeras is derived from simmons warlike people mentioned in the works of several classical authors as dwelling totally darkness. It is possible also. That cameras is derived from chimera. The three headed fire breathing lying down serpent who eventually becomes one of the guardians of the underworld. There is a precedent considering that be harmless. Phoenix is also demonized in goretti a- and last but certainly not least we have dicara is a demon and according to the lesser keys of solomon a great marquis of hell or a king and earl according to knee original latin version of these pseudo. Domon ikaria dimona. He's thirty legions of demons under his command. He knows the virtues of all herbs and precious stones and can change into all birds sing and fly like that and before the conjurer us depicted as appearing as a pentagram star. Changing into a man under the conjures request. So there we have it for the marquees and the princes of hell of we learned something today. If you ever try to southern one of these guys let me know how it goes. I'm not really ready to do that just yet. But hey if you want to go for it. The next time we look at this will be the earls and the knights of hell we may get to the president's as well but the required a few those. We might just finish off next week. It's the last bit to go. 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Mythical Creatures Week Morning Kids Choice (3-21-2021)

Chompers

03:28 min | Last month

Mythical Creatures Week Morning Kids Choice (3-21-2021)

"Welcome back to chompers your morning and night tooth brushing. show you guys some incredible imaginary animals. So today we're going to feature your favorite mythical creatures before we get started starting brushing on the top of your mouth on one side and make sure to brush the inside the outside and the chewing side each to our first favorite mythical creature comes from nate and callan. it's the griffin griffin is a pretend animal called a hybrid animal which means it's a mix of too real animals. It's part eagle and part lion. Griffins are thought of as one of the most powerful mythical creature. james also likes the griffioen. Because it's a school mascot switzer rushing to the other side of the top of your mouth and keep on brushing our next mythical creature comes from cooper and it's the hippo grip just like the griffin the hippo griff is part bird it's got the head wings and front legs of an eagle but it stopped back legs like a horse like all other mythical creatures hippo groups only exist in stories like in the harry potter series of books. Cooper really likes the hypocrites in those books because you have to bow to them so you're brushing to the bottom of your mouth and make sure to brush those molars all the way in the back. Matteo rodin to tell us about cerberus. In greek mythology stories cerberus is a three headed. Watchdog was a snake for a tail. Matteo says he likes cerberus because he's both scary and silly to the other side of the bottom of your mouth and tongue brush to our last mythical creature to feature comes from kierra rene joe joe. It's the phoenix. The phoenix is a magical bird with red and gold feathers. Story say when the phoenix gets really old like five hundred years old if flies into the fire a son when it flies out of the sun. It's a brand new. Younger firm chompers. Thanks to all you champions. Who sent in your favorite mythical creatures. Come back tonight here about more marvelous mythical beasts but before you go three two one. Thanks to our sponsor cheerios. Hey grownups with a happy heart powered by honey nut cheerios. You'll have the positivity needed to be good and spread good beyond the breakfast table and into the day ahead cheerios. Good starts with happy. Hearts chompers production of gimblett media.

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Mythical Creatures Week Morning Kids Choice (3-22-2020)

Chompers

03:10 min | 1 year ago

Mythical Creatures Week Morning Kids Choice (3-22-2020)

"Welcome back to Chompers your morning and night tooth brushing. Show you guys some incredible imaginary animals. So today we're going to feature your favorite mythical creatures before we get started starting brushing on the top of your mouth on one side and make sure to brush the inside the outside and the chewing side each to are first favorite mythical creature comes from nate and Callan. It's the Griffin Griffin is. A pretend animal called a hybrid animal. Which means it's a mix of too real animals. It's part Eagle and part lion. Griffins are thought of as one of the most powerful mythical creature James also likes the Griffin. Because it's a school mascot Switzer rushing to the other side of the top of your mouth and keep on brushing our next mythical creature comes from Cooper and it's the hippo graph just like the Griffin the Hippo Griff is part bird. It's got the head wings and front legs of an eagle but it's got back legs like a horse like all other mythical creatures. Hippo gifts only exist in stories like in the Harry Potter Series Of Books. Cooper really likes the hypocrites in those books because you have to bow to them such. You're brushing to the bottom of your mouth and make sure to brush those molars all the way in the back. Matteo Rodin to tell us about cerberus in Greek mythology stories. Cerberus is a three headed watchdog. Was a snake for a tail. Matteo says he likes cerberus because he's both scary. And silly the other side of the bottom of your mouth and tongue brush to our last mythical creature to feature comes from Kierra Rene Joe Joe. It's the Phoenix. The Phoenix is a magical bird with red and gold feathers. Story say when the Phoenix gets really old like five hundred years old if flies into the fire a son when it flies out of the Sun. It's a brand new younger firm. Trumpers thanks to all you champions. Who sent in your favorite mythical creatures? Come back tonight here about more marvelous mythical beasts but before you go three. Two one chompers is a production of Gimblett media.

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DV E37: Mr. Cruel, Part Three: "Decommissioned"

Drowning Verdict

12:35 min | 5 months ago

DV E37: Mr. Cruel, Part Three: "Decommissioned"

"Coming right shock with me as we pull up to the crime scene. For only four bucks shots you'll get insider access to episodes and mentions in several of them for your product or your service to learn more about joining my team visit. Ka-fai dot com forward slash charles. Mony that's ko dash f i dot com forward slash. Charles mony. i could really use your support. It's tough out there. Sometimes i gotta admit and i need a trusted partner who can keep all the details about the vix close to the vest. Never talk to the press and remember to keep your head down as we kick in the perp store. I don't want to turn around and see the neighbor kids played soccer with it in the street. Hello welcome johnny verdict. I'm chip mahoney. And this is my true crime. Podcast this podcast. Where i talk about. Stories that fascinate me and go more in depth with the case. I'm an author. I'm about story connections new angles and maybe even uncovering some truth here and there. So thanks for joining me. You might have found me on my youtube or twitter which is a great way to always get the latest episodes in that format. And if you'd like the sample you can click the link and the description to listen to the full episode by following me. You also get my other. Podcasts called your story or your life which is true. Crime and compelling persons of interest. Both my podcasts can be found wherever you get your favorite shows if you'd like what you hear come back for more sub share follow and let me know how i'm doing or if you've got something i should consider. The cases i cover are often mysterious. If it's an open inactive case. I believe there are more clues to be had therefore consider riding shotgun with me as we pull up to the crime scene. You could be a member of my forensics team. For four dollars you'll get insider access to new episodes as well as mentions for your business if you so desire to learn more about my forensics team go to my co five page which is right there on my youtube or twitter card. Your support goes a long way to getting new equipment for the show and all the other things that go into bringing you content. That's as fresh as a drop of blood on a sparkling linoleum floor. Thanks again for listening. Now let's get in with why we're here today The biggest break in the curious case of mr cruel is it. My theory that he was in the ran and was on shortly when he committed his crimes. It's the golden state killer was finally taken a trial and put behind bars and that he was still alive. The fact that investigators victims can put a face with what was only once. A voice behind the flashlight gives us hope that mr cruel is still alive and can finally brought to justice by shortly theory holds water in my mind. Only my ideas my own and only investigators close to the case would know if they stack up my theory hinges on the line he said to vic in nineteen eighty five and that is this by liberty. My freedom is worth more than your life from that line and the word liberty. I've given you my reasons. Why i think he was in the ran. And as i said stationed and hmas sarah's for time during a few of his crimes a service is a mythical creature it is a three headed dog. That guards the gates of hell. Mr cruel has three heads. So it's appropriate. He is and was a navy man he is from a family man and he is a highly intuitive killer who has always lived in the future at hmas serice. They do a couple things. They train. electron. Ix engineers marine engineers and supply officers all recruits for the ran touch base at several at some point and a lot of people. Move through it. Those were engineers would be sent to an actual naval ship to beyond ford. In order to solve problems that could arise such as leaks and how to attack them. I'm ninety eight point six percent. Sure that mr cruel was an engineer at rest and then was transferred to an actual ship. I believe he committed possibly to attacks while at cerberus and on shortly and the others while stationed on the naval ship before we get there and put a gag ball on this series. I wanna tell you about his personality. Because only two percent of all people have the type he has and that is identified as i n t p on the website personality max the i n t p personality type is nicknamed the engineer personality. I didn't make that one up. The i stands for intuitive and people within tuition live in the future. Mr cruel lived in the future so show that he knew that something called. Dna could do Damage to him down the road. He wasn't a dumb fish but it wasn't work killer whale. One with purpose in ten person leave traces of themselves at a crime scene the eighties and nineties yet. Twenty years later on the tools methods and technologies can catch up with them. Those traces they left behind mr cruel knew. He couldn't leave a trace of physical evidence no nails skin spit or cement nothing despite his high volume of personal contact with victims and their families only two percent of all personality types live in the future. It's not a coincidence. It's nicknamed the engineer personality. And it's also not a coincidence. That cerberus was within a short distance of franks did where i believe. Mr cole stopped along the way before going to any one of his crime scenes. It was easy for him to step into the population. And then hide behind the gates of hell as investigators were trying to figure out what had happened over. Twenty seven seven thousand. People were searched or questioned and mr cruel was on shortly and when he was transferred to an actual ship. He was on shore leave when he committed those crimes. It's my belief. He was transferred to the h. M. s lonsdale at some point along the way which was an actual ship that was on the water at the port of melbourne. Today it's a luxury apartment building. At the time. When mr cruel was ford it was part of the ran. I take the t from short and replace it with an e because they literally mean the same thing the only difference being on land or water as you know. His last crime was in nineteen ninety. One and the body of the girl was found. In ninety two the hmas lonsdale was a navy ship decommissioned by the ran in nineteen ninety. Two in taken out of service. Mr cruel unknowingly was actually put out of business by the ran and that is the reasons. His crimes had stopped if it weren't for that he'd have had the protection in the movement to keep doing what he was doing. Although i will say that. I truly believe he did not want to kill the last girl and i think that affected him. It's because he has children himself is a father and was married by the time he was forty. It's a theory that the girl saw his face and for that she paid with her life. And i believe that his liberty and freedom was worth more than her life. He meant what he said. His short leave and subsequent shore leave was worth everything at the time. Shore leave is the same as shortly. Ve it's requested while you're on the water and to go ashore. Mr cruel most likely committed his final two crimes while are on the h. m. a. s. lonsdale was working as an engineer and spent a lot of time in the water. He spent a lot of time thinking about the future and was thrilled with himself that he could choose to commit a crime as easily as you can choose what to have for. Dinner was his power over choice where he found himself and that power was intoxicating is he still alive was he in the ran to my Theories have me leaks. I can only say that. I'm ninety eight point six percent sure. Only investigators who know are the ones who really know they've seen the files interview the people and all the intimate details. I've done what. I candidacy that. There was a dna of different kind. That like the golden state killer something other than forensic dna was witness to the crimes in the case of it was the flashlight in the is a tactic. Highly used by cops. At the time of his activities. The word liberty and how it synonymous with leave in the navy whether station at land or sea is the dna of different kind. I believe mr cruel said the line and that what he meant was that his shortly leave. His freedom is worth more than your life in two thousand twenty one. It'll be thirty years since his final crime. The edge low was caught a thirty two years after his last murder. And so by my count. Mr cruel has two more years to keep living in the future before his past catches up with them if in fact he is still alive. No this he was born into the world to a mother and father and he went to a school like all the other children. He believed so much in love for a time. He was living in the future as an adolescent where he had a life and a wife and children it was likely though he was at a catholic school and it was there that he suffered embarrassment beyond repair a girl. Her curls interrupted his future to let him know he wasn't good enough. She was too small not good looking enough and not like the other boys. It was ripped apart emotionally because he was just overwhelmed with motions. The pouring out of his heart and soul was too early for him in his life. A nun was raped because it was a nun who taught him in class. And who probably looked the other way when he was suffering in embarrassment in the year since he has cooled himself off with child porn. And it has been a filler. For him to fantasize by the little acts of control and torture in the digital world his more hard core in the real world and in his times with the girls. She was more like a mother with a child but when was his bonnie moment. When did he poor his anger out. I believe it could have been with the last girl. You probably pulled that balaklava off his face. It was there again that he wasn't good enough and his motions and his leave was on trial. He didn't wanna do it but he had no other choice. A sketch. this face would be too much in. Police would have gotten their man. To be caught is worse than the trump torment that had once faced in grade school. From all those little angels. He's a devil though. A three headed dog guarding the gate. This ship mahoney signing off on dvd. Thanks for joining me. Closure is now sake goodbye.

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Dog Gone

The Retrofuturist Chronicles

18:16 min | 5 months ago

Dog Gone

"Hello my name. Is helen wives global vice president of marketing for the intelligent enterprise industries at sap. Welcome to episode ten of the retro futurist chronicles doggone in the previous episode miranda decided to play a small prank on on natalie unfortunately her on had a great sense of humor about it however on natalie did take the opportunity to advise her young niece the distinction between constructive and destructive behavior. She related a story about an innocent prank phone call. That went terribly wrong. Miranda seemed to get the message loud and clear in this episode. We once again see how the internet of things and the telecom industry play a central role in our lives not surprisingly as a seam begins having crisis natalie aunt natalie maranda daedalus has gone. He's escaped yeah like three thousand years ago. Why less he was imprisoned with idris and they made fake wings to fly away right. Brilliant plan a couple of technical problems. But it's always great to innovate and talking about the dog daedalus. Oh you're thinking of cerberus. The three headed dog from haiti stop. This is serious. I'm talking about the dog next door a day. Yes except he's not next door anymore. He's gone why would you call a great dane service. It should be something worse like garm. His name is daedalus and he ran away okay. It's my fault. All mrs palios got sick last night and had to go to the hospital. She called me this morning and asked me to feed daedalus that makes sense palios is a greek name. That's why she called the dog server. I'm sorry daedalus actually. That doesn't make any sense as soon as i opened the door. He plowed right over me. He's like three hundred pounds. He knocked me right off the porch. And i crashed my skull. This is like my seventh concussion. This week dizzy. Do you have a headache. I've been flattened by three hundred pound. Canine slobber machine. Yeah i have a headache. I was lying there in a pool of blood looking at the world upside down and out of the corner of my eye. I see daedalus take the fence like he was running a steeplechase while first of all. I don't see any blood so that's good you follow him. It took me two minutes just to get upright and he was long gone. Okay let's get in the car and go look for him. I'll get the keys. You have the leash. Yes if something happens to him i'm doomed. Just don't slept never mind. Mrs palios is going to be so mad. She's obsessed that dog if we don't find him she'll die or kill me either way. It's all my fault. He has his dog tags and a chip. So someone will find him. And call mrs palios. I don't want her to know we have to find him. I if i recall correctly this dog is about seven feet tall so he'll be hard to miss and dogs rarely travel more than two or three miles from home because they don't go in a straight line like penguins they keep circling. What if he gets hit by a car or something a dog that big will do more damage to the car than the car will do to the dog but all end up paying for the damage. It's not worth having an existential crisis. This more like a panic attack. What if he gets dog napped. Why would anyone do that for the money. They could hold him for ransom. I don't think he'll be dognapped. I can't afford that. It would wipe out my entire college savings and all end up cleaning sewers for the rest of my life. Wait where did that come from. I didn't catch the leap to the sewer cleaning. Do you think people who clean sewers have a college degree I don't know maybe a degree in wastewater management great. I won't even be able to clean sewers. I'm doomed all. I don't think he's been stolen. But it reminds me of the time the cosmopolitan retro futuristic innovators secret investigative sisterhood met for a technology conference in orlando really. What you're going to tell me a story. Now it's more like a recollection and it's relevant. The only relevant thing right now is finding daedalus. Okay maybe more fascinating than relevant. But i still feel compelled to tell you about fine. Go ahead well. The sisters gathered for this software conference in orlando florida. What is that him. We know that looks like a plastic tarp or something. Oh so anyway. There we were at this conference and it was better than most conferences because it was all about software an innovation. And you know it's always great to innovate. Yeah try turning down that alley. He's not down that alley but we can look anyway. One of the speakers is as programmer. Who worked at a telecom company. And she's going on about how they're personalizing the customer experience and improving satisfaction with machine learning and chat bots and so on which we all thought was great but the interesting thing was that she had her dog with her. And we're watching the speech and everyone is wondering how the dog figures into it finally. She claims that she's taught the dog to use a smart speaker a smart speaker. Yes and then. She gives us a demonstration. The speaker is attached to the dogs vest. And it's been programmed to interpret various. Sounds that the dog makes so if hermes that was the name of her dog. See hermes that makes sense. Curry's was the ancient greek messenger. God and this was a messenger. Dog messenger god messenger. Dumb makes sense sherve but well. Here's how it worked. If hermes gave two quick barks. The smart speaker would give one response. If hermes growled. It gives another response if he held it gives a third response and the thing is this programmer. is classic film. Buff sushi program the speaker to respond with the classic movie line. So hermes would make a noise on the speaker would respond to things like toto. I've a feeling we're not in kansas anymore. Or i'm walking here. I'm walking here or wait a minute. Wait a minute you ain't heard nothing yet or has god as my witness. I'll never be hungry again. Or you're not a whistle. Don't you steve. You just put your lips together and blow so it was kind of like a talking dog exactly but there is a serious side to it. Suppose you had a rescue dog. That could plainly say what it found or a service dog that could give verbal warning or request. Help from someone if they're handler. Became ill or a police dog that could state they found a bomb or a gun and if the smart speaker had. Gps associated with it. It could call for help and guide rescuers to the precise location. It sounds amazing but it has nothing to do with finding daedalus. Well that's not the end of the story. After the presentation. I was standing around with some of the sisters about everything we'd seen that day when suddenly we hear. This commotion turned out that hermes had been stolen in case. You're wondering this story isn't making me feel better. Well needless to say the crisis sisters sprang into action. This was a sort of predicament. We love to resolve. We immediately broke into action squads and began to delegate. We contacted the proper authorities. Got a map of the area and divided it into quadrants. We set up a command center and made arrangements for supplies to be choppered in. And oh it's the dental as over there. No that dogs way smaller. It's a marijuana or something. It's nothing like a dane. Well there's nothin' leica dane northern and law world. There is nothing you can name. Is anything like a stop. What really what did you rescue hermes. I think rescued himself. By the time we got set up. Hermes had already called the authorities with his g. P. s. location. We storm the warehouse where we thought he was held hostage and found his abductor. Cowering in a corner. The poor guy had no idea what he was up against. Hermes was barking like crazy in the smart speaker was saying things like go ahead. Make my day. Jake your stinking off me. You damn dirty. Abe human beings are disease a cancer of the planet. You are a play and we are the cure. And i'm not gonna take this anymore. It's a great story aunt natalie. Not a story. It's a recollection. I still need to find daedalus. I know and he's right around. The corner is yup just as i thought right there hospital. I'm not sure how they do it. But dogs just seem to know lists. Why did you run away Hey is this your dog lady. Where does he's been blocking the emergency entrance for half an hour now. You don't want to budge. It took three of us the movie model so sorry. He's leading for someone inside. Got it but you know. No dogs allowed for obvious reasons. Can you get him to come with you. Miranda i think so if we put the leash on hill want to go for a walk and we're going to have to walk because he's not gonna fit in my car. We're so sorry to have bothered. You is fine. He looks like a good dog goal. Go have a nice day. Another crisis resolved. I think we need to keep him from running back here at least find a better way to track him. Yes it's always great to innovate. They do sell. Gps enabled callers now. Not only does it track the location of your dog. It keeps a record of how much exercise. It's getting and notifies you instantly if your dog has been stolen or runs away it might be a nice get well gift for old mrs palios singh sant natalie. You're the best while it is comforting to know that daedalus is going to get home safely maranda probably doesn't have a future in cleaning sewers. I shared on. Natalie's interest in how the telecommunications industry is evolving people all over the world are increasingly interacting via mobile devices and the internet of things it has gone beyond being a part of life to becoming a literal extension of our being that also means that customers are demanding a more personalized experience on naturally story about hermes chat. Ordination dog is clearly beyond. What technology could accomplish today. But researchers at georgia tech's university fighter project have been developing ways for working dogs to interact with technology and we will undoubtedly see more of that in the near future. Stay with us to hear. A discussion with sap's chief designer futurist. Martin was ascii and pretty pam. Lardy vice president of industry marketing for a cpa to learn more about how the world is increasing the interacting with the internet of things and how the telecommunications industry must evolve to support that interaction. What read more about working dogs in the future of the telecommunications industry in our related blog series now here martin emperor deep. Thank you helen. This episode of the retro futurist chronicles and natalie's telling fantastic story of smart speaker enable service dog but in reality researchers at georgia tech. University's fito project are actually developing ways for working dogs to interact with technology and we will undoubtedly see more of that in the future. The internet of things. We've all heard that term so often it's happening. All around. Does and a communication service provider industry must evolve to support the the interactions that are coming through but smart devices all around us now of course to be successful. they have to find new business models. That's going to propel. Their businesses forward in this new digital area adamant among they need to provide additional functions or or the needed infrastructure to make it easier for businesses to deploy and leverage these iot solutions. A more optimal outcome would be for. Csb's to deliver and to develop and deliver more complete solutions that are providing value. And as a result they get a greater share of the revenue. The the fire hose of information that's available to businesses and consumers from smart devices would be meaningless without context and without personalization. So we touched on some of this in the last episode but the opportunity as we discussed this is huge when you combine content content with context with personalization especially with this fire hose of information that is not devices devices. All all of the world are generating martin your thoughts on this. This is such an interesting area. I'm super excited. You know in one envelope is also. We talked about the twin the digital twin of this planet. Sap runs the world sustainably. Okay this is a little bit bigger than the good old europe. Wells new right. It's as we call it. The open planetary resource. Planning whatever name you wanna give it. I think telecommunications and the things around us will be so connected sweet into it however the twin of the world is just a sort of a blunt copy but the around who can look at it that context you mentioned so many times here is the key and we talked about just in the last episode. So twin of plastic surgeons our platform which change over the also imagined. Additionally to that that everything will have its own power source. It's possible that this could happen via super-efficient solar power harvesting methods. We have thin films or paint with electronic dust or nano-technology that the harvest you know wind and solar powered devices devices can share power by so everything is powered everything is connected exactly like that so any output is an input is possible at any time you can use your car window or whatever finger. Flat surface is a display to show data and that they will be accurate in stream bound with five g. Six g technologists. Whatever future a development week have and you know data sources an app to ended display. That monitor this intelligence. We need a new consumption standards. A new protocols that are super global For apps and data to combine themselves at any point in any situations slimmer and smart of clients that can act in a global network of things to the on the positional tiny millimeters always powered always online. This means mass connection. Obviously a whole city can be voted into same live and develop digital event. Not even mentioning a stadium soccer spectators and you can add augmented reality with your normal eyewear. can see data an augment- yourself interactions Be able to questions like how it's my dog to. Or how is my doing car or my facilities. Doing and facilities buildings will speak back. Accused you whole cities. We'll have corrections with their citizens. City can tell you. We are losing a little bit of air quality right now. This building is losing the building. We'll tell you. I'm losing of structure. Who was a tiny earthquake. And i can tell you this this is happening in this dissection of me because there is none of technology smart enough to talk back to device We you and i were twenty thirty cents about my iphone while i watch whatever i'm wearing today multiply multi exponentially. We will have devices inside our bodies talk. You know we will ask. Our environment is doing materials was sent structured. Compositions integrate jeopardy can. Because we'll talk to each other and say no. I cannot go there because there's a train standing but with this this kind of acid and i can be hundred meters more closer than this is c. Earthquakes danger all these things might be re little bit less involved in our lives in the future we will have self governing stuff and we will be self-governing and much more augmented than before through. So you see how excited i am about this and this is just coming decade. So this is not far science-fiction this business fact. Amazing the flood of information. It's the proverb the proverbial needle in the haystack. How'd you get. How'd you get the unique point of view. How do you get the wisdom. How do you get the context with this flood of information that that's required to get that get that wisdom huge opportunities and that's that's a huge opportunity for csb's and other players and so it's it's an it's an area that could potentially lose to others if they don't ramp up and provide solutions. Thank you get inspired. Check out more by the future at inspire the future dot com.

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Wall Street Breakfast June 19th: Ending The Week With Some Trade Optimism

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Wall Street Breakfast June 19th: Ending The Week With Some Trade Optimism

"Welcome to Ski Health as Wall Street Breakfast your daily source of Market News Analysis. Subscribe to this podcast on apple podcast Google podcasts spotify stitcher. Morning Days June nineteenth I'm dating. And this is Wall Street breakfast. Today's top story. Looking for a catalyst after muted session on Thursday US stock index futures advanced one percent overnight after hugging the flat line for most of the session. A report from Bloomberg said China plans to accelerate purchases of American farm goods to comply with the phase. One trade deal after buying fell behind due to krona virus disruptions. Don't forget that it's also quite witching day, which refers to the simultaneous expiration of market index futures stock, futures, market index options in Stock Options The event can lead to higher volatility in more trading volume, giving speculators the chance at quick arbitrage opportunities. Spurred by weeks of protests for racial justice, many companies are marking June teeth this year, the oldest known holiday, honoring the end of slavery in America. Some two hundred firms have made the day a paid holiday including Twitter Square Nike spotify as well as Adobe. altria lift in Uber J. P.. Morgan Chase will close bank branches early other Detroit three GM for Chrysler will hold moments of silence. On June nineteenth, eighteen sixty five union general, Gordon granger read the emancipation proclamation to the public in Galveston Texas, a full two and a half years after it was issued by a Ham Lincoln. After a deep freeze for most of the year, the IPO market has heated up in recent weeks powered by strong debuts from Warner Music Zoom Info Technologies. Albertsons is now kicking off the road show for its IPO which would give the nation's second grows for a more than ten billion dollar valuation, if the stock prices at the mid point of its eighteen to twenty dollar range. The. Likely to begin trading publicly late next week won't yield proceeds for Albertson's. Because the stock sale is coming from existing shareholders, cerberus capital, which is catching out a roughly fifteen year investment. Tesla is pushing officials in Travis County Texas for tax breaks of as much as sixty eight million dollars over ten years in order for the automaker move ahead with plans to invest about one billion dollars to build a large assembly plant in the Austin region. The tax breaks are said to be needed to make the site competitive with what Tulsa Oklahoma. Officials have offered to test for. The new factories expect to be four to five million square feet, able to manufacture both the truck and model why? German payment processor wire card, which is mostly attracted interest from shortsellers in some analysts over the past year is making headlines after auditors couldn't locate one point nine billion euros in cash. The stock crashed in Frankfurt. Coming as much as sixty two percent while the company suspended its chief. Officer. Wildcard also said it would delay filing. It's twenty nine hundred annual report for the fourth time putting it in danger of having banks terminate two billion euros of homes. As cove, nineteen cases hit one hundred thousand Canada, Shop Fai in blackberry, announced a corona virus contact tracing. APP developed with provincial and federal governments expect to launch in July. The APP called covert. Alert will use. Bluetooth connections to swap randomly generated codes with users in a geographic vicinity. It may pay off for Canada. The UK yesterday switched to the apple and Google model for its covid. Nineteen testing traits at after a locally developed system did not work well on the IPHONE. There are two major shopping events in China. Six eighteen on June eighteenth, which was started by jd dot, com and singles day on November eleventh, which was created by Alibaba the nowadays, both companies joining on the promotions. This year six eighteen festival is being watched closely for signs about the health of the Chinese Consumer Crow Virus Pandemic and initial figures may be pointing to recovery as the to e commerce giants handled a record one hundred thirty six point five billion dollars in sales through their platforms over the last twenty four hours. Jd Dot com US listed shares are up seventy two percent this year and Alibaba has climbed five percent. Both companies recently carried out secondary listings in Hong Kong. British, retail sales rebounded more strongly than expected last month jumping by a record, twelve percent as the country relaxed lockdown measures, but government borrowing search to counter corona virus impacts on the economy. In fact, public borrowing hit a record high in debt past one hundred percent of economic output with the first time since nineteen sixty three. The Office for National Statistics. Don't warn. The figures were preliminary in care was needed with a usual measures of public finances. The twenty seven European Union governments are beginning negotiations day on seven hundred fifty billion euro stimulus package to tackle the COVID nineteen crisis. The plan has sparked division among some EU. Countries and differences remain over how much and in which form the money should be borrowed distributed in repaid. It has become an even more complicated topic after the US pulled out of international digital tax talks move. The European Commission had suggested could increase revenues repay some of the new debt. Other News. You can read about on seeking Alpha. McDonald's looks toward a recovery with heavy summer hiring. AMC will reopen most US theaters on July fifteen. Marathon petroleum revised talks would sale of its speedway gas station chain according to The Wall Street Journal. Rate values firm Bridgewater. Associates warns of potential. LOST DECADE FOR STOCKS And facebook pose a trump campaign ad featuring. Symbol In earnings news kroger sold three percent despite what appears to have been a very strong earnings report. Smith and Wesson was off two point five percent after hours after more exaggerated market rally outran. What was also a very strong quarter. As six hundred M, eastern European markets are up about a percent as our US futures. That concludes today's Wall Street breakfast. Thank you for listening and have a great weekend. That concludes today's wall. Street breakfast. Thank you for listening for the best investment analysis and news on the web looking out the DOT COM. Subscribe to this podcast on Apple podcasts podcasts spotify stitcher. You can sign up for other podcasts behind the idea sap's therapies. 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Final Fantasy 8, Part 6: Live from the Garden

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Final Fantasy 8, Part 6: Live from the Garden

"Back in the battle of the gardens here on vinyl the gardens fighting. I don't like it when my gardens are biting the garden. Fourth brooklyn's ed. It's a clash of the schools are worse for all reading that. You wanna hear a secret the secret whether you want to hear tonight is that like have like four impressions on a rolodex that i just assigned to different characters. Basically four voices. Yeah that's it it's great it's What do you call it when the schools are fighting. It's like it's like an it's not an intramural. That was the word that came to my mind. Neither of us were particularly athletic. Their high school careers. Where we google. Tell me what is it called when they were. Schools are fighting rivalry. Don't don't grow old intense. It gets intense rivalry one of those not sadie hawkins trying to think it's a dance. In a manner of speaking. The gardens are dancing though. This is like a dance. The war dance Dead we are at war here and final fantasy. Last week we found out that we're all best friends from when we were young children and babes and now these tiny little these tiny little guys sweet little kids who grew up to be all these powerful soldiers are fighting fighting the rival schools. An all out war between the gardens these gardens that we didn't even know were mobile enabled to fly are now in like this very complicated ariel battle to kick us off the ariel battle. That sucks. yeah it does. That is very accurate. there are a couple of light little mini games in here that you have to play. That are super a yeah. There's a lot going on in in this one. That's like i think a lot more like a process. Easy action oriented episode. but then there's also like some fairly important plot stuff happens in this one as well so in this episode of the podcast for those who are playing with us we are like scooping the end of disc two and the very beginning of disc three. We are going to end this episode right before we launch into a really pivotal new portion of the game. I think like there is a way in which this this episode is sort of like both epilogue and prologue to to certain eras of f. f. a. i don't know is that if like in your the game you got that sense of like some things ending some things beginning. Yeah well there's this big shift right from idia who is set up as your as your nemesis very early in the game. I think we talk about that in the very first chapter. I believe her name is matt want. I'm going to call her that. The sorceress idiot is no longer are show because she is no longer possessed. We'll get there and instead now we are focusing on saving alone finding alone rescuing her from the people that are trying to hunt her down and so the scope historic expanded in that way right. I'm focusing on this. One person who was trying to extensively take over the globe to now you're focusing on the globe because who knows where your friends are and where your photos are. Yeah there's going to be. Oh a lot of like exposition info dumping happening later on in the episode. But you gotta like cut through a lot of violence versed. Yeah where we where we last left our characters they were at trabi garden and irvine is like so you guys know that we all went to we were on north we went. We all went to orphanage together. You know that right. And they're all like and he's like yeah. Let me just talk you through complicated. Flashback all my god. All you were there and you were there were there. Were there sorceress. She was our mom she was she was gone. And everyone's like wow. I can't believe i forgot about that. I totally forgot about that. Because they've been junction and guardian force. I am not going to stop junketing guardian forces you crazy i need a whole game is built on this. What are we going to do. It would have been interesting said if at this juncture of the game they eliminated the junction system. Right if they're like that would have been very daring Just to talk that through. Can you imagine like there's this reveal halfway through the game that the junction system is bad. And it like sort of mirrors like the meta of the game. It's like this junction systems kind of back. And then they get rid of the junction system. Because of the guardian forces are rotting their brains and so now you have something more akin to traditional magic. What did your and leveling up. that'd be very would It's kind of interesting. A far christ read notably one of the only other games. I've played to completion. Sort of has stay for now. Revisit that statement in a year's nine five hundred zero times but there is a point in that game where like the main guy he's been fighting and chasing around the island for all this time is is dealt with and then this whole other plot happens that involves like the us military and suddenly you have like a military uniform and you can like be stealthy and infiltrate places in a whole new way and it does shift the game mechanics to like kind of a different game in the middle. So like i had that experience and honestly if they're like junk is complicated and confusing bad for you know more of that. I you wouldn't hear a complaint for me. I think it could have been really interesting. A tradition in the final fantasy series in this game is no exception in this episode is really the episode where it starts is like. You think you're doing one thing and it turns out you're doing something else or it turns out you need to do something else. And there's like a big pivot in the story like in terms of like who you're fighting. I'm not really fighting. Who i think i'm fighting. That happens in this episode. But that doesn't to my memory really happen gameplay wise i think actually like the closest thing to an exception is one of the new miracle final fantasies that i knew i know the least final fantasy five has something like that and final fantasy six has some some some elements of this as well. But those aren't like really like breaking like the structure of the game in terms of like how you how you do combat. I think that could have been really compelling because this idea that like okay. So sheva or or. I don't think if sheva in this do you know you do like. She like not like sheep is great. I love sheva. I love you. Free diablo a weirdo and the lamp. But he's cool too but like at the same time he's writing my brain so i should probably stop hanging out with him. I think would have been like both metaphor and also like a bowl game play choice but now everyone's decided like no we'll we'll just it's worth it it's worth it. We have a lot to do in I think we should keep using the guardian forces but in order to remember a little bit better. You guys all want to go to the orphanage. let's go find the orphanage and like reminisce ak- eds house Eds house. Which is this orphanage is on a continent where there's like nothing else. It's like the far south of the map. And it's just like a house on this tiny little strip of land and us Yeah but like it makes you think that of like like how how. How are they getting adopted. Our they getting mike food our they getting supplies and they were like like the end of the world disoriented boats ships flying schools. Yeah i think. Sometimes i over think i've got like my own little fantasy book that i'm working on in the background and i often like get in my own head of like The world building just doesn't make much. Yeah how does this connect there and like how does that. I try to like really like logic it out and get hung up on it and like i freak out and stopped writing for like seven months and really what i need to remember is like. Eds orphanages just total bottom of the map and completely disconnected from the rest of the world maps and final fantasy. Don't make any sense at all. That's be emboldening. Let me put that down in my notes for personal. Sometimes you drive from you know. Nibble heim to break in just a little. It's a little weirded you. Maybe that works. The best thing though is like let's go to the orphanage. let's hang out. And then you go to the orphanage and i don't know about you but like when i play i've played this a few times but like this time i'd like forgotten exactly how it worked. I parked the garden like down the strip from the orphanage. And i'm trying to run into the orphanage and there's like this pop up bubble that shows up and the bubbles like i feel like there's something here and i'm like okay. Well let me go inside and explore. It keeps saying like feel like there's something here and then i'm like what is a right. There's this part of the game. And i shift the camera around and the gigantic gal bady garden is just like floating orphanage as well if you go in at an angle. Where like you. Don't see that. The gal beta garden is just floating by and you just try to go into the orphanage. It's like the game will stop you being not yet. You may do important i. It's like that's sort of like it's right behind me isn't it. It was like one of those. Yeah the gal beta garden is right there. And i guess like this is going to be the venue where everybody decides to go to wall. It's not the first time we've encountered the floating albania garden. It was hanging out outside of ballum in last week's podcast but this time they're like i think i don't know. Does edna know that we know like why is this. Why are we finally deciding to go to like epic war now of all time. It's a great question I think they're going to go see ideo. They're not going to fight. Gals eighty s specifically that just eastwood. What ends up happening In i knew because of the walk through that i was looking for albania. Garden near eating house in. I actually found the garden before i found house. So yeah i. I'd never saw her house until after this whole thing happened but squall is just told like okay. We're going to fight this war now so you should give some orders. So squall whose he's been like deputized he's in charge of the whole operation. Yeah he gets like this moment where he is like. Ask tell everybody what to do. And i don't know that i've ever done this properly. Did you do the walk through. Tell you exactly what to do here does. But i wasn't looking at it so i didn't know and like this menu comes up and it says like do nothing. Click on these things. And i thought i was gaining information. So i'm like going down the list trying to like read expecting to read information about what the various options are and no it turns out. You're just picking things to say like over the loudspeaker essentially including like hide all the hotdogs that feels like zell was like behind way. Hide all all the hotdog a yeah like you have all these marching orders to give out like i thought i thought i was giving a fairly responsible speech where it's like. Get ready for an attack. A older students protect the young students. And like i was like giving and then like after. I'm done. I think one of the other guys on the deck. Maybe you said too much. I was like what are you talking about. I'm trying to just give everyone information like much. They stop listening or they get confused. Sorry charlie confused. Look i'm new at this and so you do give all these orders and like you're starting to split up somewhere along the way like you decide like zell is going to be like in charge of one unit. I think and i think it's around this time where zell is like. Hey squall. Can i borrow your rings. So random talk about more later but honestly it's random than to any of this is coming from squall has a ring it's got like a lion on important to him. He's like john lose it. Also just this weird. I love it. I love squall. Who doesn't care about anything at all outwardly. Anyway and then legs. Can i borrow your ring and this is the moment where squalls like. Look man i actually do have feelings that i do things i care about and i really liked that ring and if you bring. I'm going to be very upset. Ed sells like. I'm just going to borrow it. It's going to be totally by and don't it. Oh god why do i keep saying yesterday. And so he gives zell the ring and the beats of this are a little bit a little bit. Wonky like a lot goes down. I think like you have to have zell and renault in your party. Right and like zelic goes to renault's got the ring and knows the cool i guess renault wants a ring. Just says he'll make her one just like it was is like a how to do that. Be why does she want one just like it. C- why does he wanna do that for her. When did they have this conversation like and now. This is happening now in the middle of this. Now it's happening. It's happening now. As media is like launching flying motorcycles as his head off of their ships onto the end there now zooming around valid to to set the to set the scene like your gardens are now lying at each other and the gal baby garden is just aggressively. Attacking baumgarten launching soldiers on motorcycles. Off the gal beta garden and onto ballum garden and they are just like they're ripping up their their little. Singing do yeah. They're driving all over. Your school tire marks everywhere. It's just not. It's not a pleasant sight and in the middle of all of this zell says. Can i borrow your ring. This ring that you really didn't even know about up to this point and this is the were playing the version with good graphics. Can you and renault's like sweet. Yes make me one. So she wants one of the rings like she just wants. She loves squalls. Rings thinks it looks neat. She clearly has feelings for squall and so she wants to be like ring. Buddies ends. Zell is able to do it. Apparently and. I guess like again we underestimate zell dink payroll. Yeah yeah so best character in the game adding to the two that resumes that he is master drooler but this may all be for not because at one point. There's like an explosion on the side of the garden and renault nearly falls to her death. She doesn't all a great regardless. Yeah and then hangs onto this rock for a very long time. There's like a huge chunk of guard in that gets like shot off and renault of falls down the down to the bottom of where it got shot off and the garden is like floating you know as high in the sky is like at least a blimp. Yeah air balloon now. Survivable fall to save the legacy of the the height is such that probably die before impact. Like she's just like you drop in like the sheer panic would probably kill you instantly. I think that's how i don't know never fallen who want to keep thinking about it you terrifying. She's at she's at a very very high. And i would not like that for anybody and she is like hanging on by like a piece of scrap metal and so sells like hang on renault knows like i have no choice but to try and then zell like runs away his plan involved leaving to go do something else to save her so you go and you find squall squalls like doing other stuff in zales like you gotta go save renault and squall once again is like. Yeah but i'm on a mission gotta again with each but like you gotta go save renault like hanging by a literally. She will die if you don't do something it's like. Why do you always want to do thin. Anyone else do anything. does he. Give like the big inspiring speech at this point. That already happening. That's happening now Yeah yeah you see like gal. Data has this like flying robot army. They're not literally robots they're like people in like loss of armor. But they're not just like to like deploying out of the ship A lot is happening. Yeah and squall is giving this big speech about like you guys are gonna go over there and this crew is going to go over here and they're going to attack from these ways and we're gonna do this and we're gonna ram into gal vaidya dave ramdas. We can ram them back in. Like roy do it. I love when in this speech. He's like i'm sure you're all pretty tight. Y'all like he does like this like sort of like. Hey i know this is a lot squaw give it a little bit of an uplifting speech is not quite his style but then he's finally like all right. Yeah i do have to go save renault. I if i'm being completely honest with myself. I definitely like renault at this point like the game is like making a pretty clear. Squall has mutual feelings for renault. He just doesn't know how to express himself and so he's going to go and he's gonna run because unlike the second floor of the garden door that you could go. There's like this door you could go through. That's going to to let emergency is. Yeah and like. There's a kid who was like in the hallway and like he's fallen down and see pick them up like your sisters down the hallway. Go go find her and she's worried about you find you. She's so nervous and as that happens. Something happens to your screen. Where like a health bar shows up Like a totally new interface that just like slams onto your screen and you're probably on your first play through your life Yeah i was like this is not a gets in something that is about to happen. And one of those flying those flying robot guys that is not actually a robot comes down the stairs and hits you like knocks you over and then hits you. I did just like bursts of room and just like slams into your crap. You're now playing this. Many games like like rock soccer robots effectively where you are being attacked by a man in an exo suit and you have to like either like punch him or kick him or defend his fight. But i you have to get into like the actual battle the hallway. Don't fight enough alway. You don't stand a chance of the hallway if you're if you try to fight them in the hallway you'll die and like what you have to do is there is like a second emergency exit and you open that up and like you and the guy in the suit like at like sucked out of the garden and so squalls like now hang onto the exit suit and so is the other guy and now you have to punch or kick them or block his punches and kicks as you're flying through the air on his exo suit in the middle of like all of this like hanging off rope that is attached to. Its not clear what time it right on because what the walkthrough tells you to do is like block a bunch because then you get the option to death blow which is good but like the delay between when you press block when block happens. It's very long. The controls are not super responsive to what you're trying to do so i failed at this many times even once i knew what to do because like a couple of times i was just trying to leave. I was trying to move. I was trying to do anything. And you can't do that. You have to go through this door. Otherwise the robot guy will just keep hitting you until you pass out. It's very annoying You i think i'd just like spammed kicking. Which does like limited damage. But i think asked astor. Yes i just like. I just like went through it for a while. Just like kick kick kick kick kick. And then eventually he fell gotta do it three different screens. Basically 'cause it's like it's like mapping onto like the cinematic that's happening in the background which is like sprawling and cool to look at like the field at large. Yeah music's cool like the moment is really really awesome. But like you're the game play is really frustrating. Does feel like again. I think we've talked about this. Like every every every like or shen of the game like features something really really tiring and annoying on a game play by perspective in this. Is that for for this game Eventually like when you kick the guy off. Squall like wheels around finds renault who has been hanging renault earlier. I believe it was last week was like i don't always feel like i can keep up with you guys and battle. You're so good and like renault has the best upper body strength of anybody. Screw she's been holding onto the side of the garden for twenty active minutes. Yeah and so like you know she should be. She should be commended for sure. Squall picks her up. I think at this point like the rest of your friends have had. They're kind of like then. Jazz assemble type of moment where they've like hopped onto the gal bady garden. Baumgarten has like deliberately crashed into into albania garden And so like your friends have gone in and like scouted ahead and you in renault and now land on the ground where i believe albania has crashed to the ground. Zero able to go in on foot and before you do. Is this like where is like. Yeah got your ring by the way kept it safe. It's like why why do you want. This is just like. I don't know i like it is. Don't lose it like again not the time to be having this conversation in the middle of this battle. But they're just like talking about the ring and squall says that the lions name is greed. You get the choice though. Yeah it's that important. Where like there's a gif that comes from this right. Yes but i won't say anything more than that but yes But to save more would be to say to right now but okay. Yeah yeah so it is. The things called the group. What is it. The grievance savoie. He's he's grieving he's got a lot to grieve and squalls. Okay don't lose this so you know that it's important because you get to name an act that you get to name. It is not insignificant. And so a okay. Well she i think she gives you the big hug. She's like you care about be it's also like people might get the wrong idea about us like if we have the same ring that a decrease and squall is thinking. Tim's of it's so crazy. Why do you sound so delighted. I love this so happy about. It may think regaining ha squall around this point in the game is just killing me. I gotta i gotta be honest. Squall squash destroyed very funny at this point in the game for sure. Yeah he's he's great so you go in you meet up with your friends and they're like all right. Well i guess we gotta take the fight to eat here. We are the final stand. We have to fight the may. But we've all agreed that will do it so now you're in like there's almost like a feeling if you didn't know that way especially when you have like the playstation version that there was another two discs to the game this would almost feel like an endpoint of sorts like you're you're in gow bay guardian gal beta has been the bad guy this whole way through. Eds has been the bad guy all this way through in your way. We're going to finally take the fight. Ideo we're taking the fight to gal beta the Like the level design of the garden like kind of feels like final dungeon hiv. It's it's a very annoying. All the hallways look exactly the same. You gotta keep track of where you are. I think i. I think i told you when we first came to gal beta gardens et like this place is bigger than it looks like. There's all these terrible hallway and you've got to find like three different key cards. It's really it's almost. It's almost harder to navigate. Then the minute me. Because it is like a labyrinth quality to determine is at least like does have many map and if you can hold that in your head you can keep track of where you are. Yeah here. it's just like. I went left and now i'm facing forward and there's a left and a right at a forward but that doesn't like the geography doesn't really track. Yeah think about it for too long. Yes yes it's it's it's a lot to sort of like try and map so but you go through it. I don't know that there's like a ton to say about like there's some fun like sort of like four inches to the place like you have to like go across the ice skating rink at one hockey players you fight. Hockey is called. They're called slappers. Yeah have to fight. The gal beta hockey team is hilarious. He do ridiculous. Run across a basketball court or something like that like some sort of outside like play ground And then eventually you can fight a guardian force. You could fight cerberus. The three headed held are like hell hounds around these parts. we do. We love good. Hell hand here on this show. Recaps even a yet hound would be fine And so you can choose to fight cerberus. If you want you do not have to but there is this gigantic three headed dog just sort of ending in the middle of lake. The central atrium. Like what you do not like you could if you wanted to. You could avoid it. But i don't know why would i don't know did you. Struggle against cerberus. And all i did okay. And i summoned. This was the first time i had summoned tom berry. He crawls about of a whole and like waddles up with as little lantern his knife and he shakes it and a little cartoon speech bubble up above his head and it says doing which just feels so out of world for this game. That i like. I lost by brian to that was so funny to me. The yeah that's great. Yeah there is read now that i have many more time. Berries goal on berries. Cool i just let the design on time barrett. Ceo fight cerberus surburbs. You eventually find your way to like a like a secret chamber like the top of the school either is their cypher. Is there cyprus. Still just like flexing where it's like Yeah you're going to really bite the matron like cypher. We were all friends when you were my friend. It's like you fight him he's a bit of a chump. He goes down. fujin are here. Also by the way we've talked to them at some point in their like. Yeah i guess you gotta do what you gotta do like. We're his friends and we wanted to support him and get in through this. But it doesn't really overseeing yeah. I do think that there eventually like i guess you got fight them we. We can't either wants to do it. But like yeah i appreciate that. That that makes sense So they step aside. You fight cypher. You beat up cipher and then eat is like all right. Well you won't bite me what you gotta just arbitrarily. Come downstairs thorny legal through the floor piece out as is through the floor all right. I guess i'll tractor downstairs to this auditorium. He fight her in the auditorium. Is there a a guardian forced to get here. Am i imagining batteries. That real has alexander. Yeah oh yeah okay. So she's got alexander which is like We've talked about. We talked about this nef seven. I think Like kind of like a castle ish. Some in that is going to have a much bigger role to play in a final fantasy nine which we will get to some day so we fought you fight safer again but like that doesn't take very long. And then you fight media now dr alexander but really you're just like honestly most of these battles i just keep spamming guardian forces And eventually that tends to work and you have this conversation. Something weird happens to rinella. And she like falls over unconscious you defeat media and then like it's a big moment. You've defeated the sorceress. And then like yeah. There's like some sort of like almost like that happens. Ciphers on the ground renaudot kind of like is up to cipher. Right and like yeah. I think she was in love with him but she's not sure if he was her boyfriend she she likes saunters up to cipher like leans down at him because he's been like just like has has had his butt handed to her and like he's had a hard day and then he gets up slowly. Inserted just walks out and as that happens renault alike wipes out renault it passes out on the ground and you're all and squall especially like very concerned like that's that's my girlfriend we're going steady we've got rings and he's nervous and then e nieto accepts up to the podium squall zell my children. I see you did it. I knew this day would come. We re change you for this. I'm so proud of you and you're awake as the player like i don't know how to feel about that. This is very odd yes so it seems like isn't so bad anymore right question mark. What happened what happened. And so yeah. I guess like that seems to be done like you've fart media. She seems to be like better now but unfortunately it means like for whatever reason renault has been wiped out like she's like knocked out you go back like balance garden the same mike medical bay bed that you woke up in the start the game. You have to go find her in the infirmary. In order to get the games keep goes squalls like sitting by her side and he's got all like she she like. She looks like she's sleeping but she hasn't woken up in days. Like squall is like pretty out of sorts. He doesn't feel like slumps over her bed like so upset. He's upset he doesn't feel good about any of it. I don't remember exactly how it happens. But like somehow he told like we are by the orphanage by the way if you want to go back to. The orphanage like we were planning on doing before we went into battle with gal gardening and eds there. If you want to go. And i think quiz like comes over the loudspeaker. It's like squall. go to his house. Go to helius house so you do that. You go to the orphanage. It's like this like really like a ruined husk of a. I hope that this is like something that happened. After the fact because like she's been living in like these ruins that's pretty rough or the kids. Do you know as i mean. Are there still kids when they were kids. I hope that it was just you know better. Okay in the flashback. I think 'cause it's pretty ruined net. You go there. And like sid is there and it's like hey i need you guys to fight her. I couldn't do it myself. I'm just such a coward away from my problems. Either you were going to lose. Which would be terrible. Or i was my wife which would be terrible. So can you forgive ideo please. Yeah i found. Fancy is definitely worse than serum. Sorry it's really. It's really not even a contest. Boosting f seven hundred higher in the rankings. I'm feeling emboldened with with my said rankings. F abate said each trash. He's training these child soldiers to fight his wife he. He's he's leaning on like the foods ruse rule lone star. He's he's telling this eighteen year old kids like in charge of the whole opera. He's terrible he's like i just need my wife back. You go and you talk to her. And she's like super chill and normal. I mean she's still like in like erlich intense sorceress. Mermaid dress still. Yeah but she doesn't have. And i can't believe we haven't talked about this because this was astounding to me. She no longer has her. Like half ship's wheel with drapes hanging off of it has been wearing up to this point as like a very dramatic like collor almost like a full curtain. Rod shoot-off shoulders. Yes she's just in a sensible like fishtail gown yeah. She's looking great to be honest like she feels refreshed. She's i caught so it's so great to be back. Do you have any questions that i can answer. See everybody what yeah. I have so many questions. Let's start with why so we get a lot of exposition as yeah. Why don't you walk us through what you learned in your conversation with eda because this is in a very real way where the game starts to change so this all happens through a conversation between squall in india like everybody else standing around. But you're like you know working through the dialogue yourself. An idiot tells us that she's been possessed by a store. Souroush named ultimate shia is that i don't know if that's how that's it ultimately chea is from the future olive by several question. Marks That's what she says. Ultimately is from the future. She came back here to possess me is looking for a loan remember alone. Is the one taking us back. To the past. When we're plas- laguna and ultimate chia was the was the ruler of estar during the sorceress war. Yep that's right. I'm a adele was right. Okay so adel. Adel was the sorceress. In charge of this sprawling apparently very powerful country called s star during their bring war with galbani this source war adele was was in charge adele disease and ultimately comes from some future point in time and so now ultimate i. I don't think they could possibly just know this But they were. Hypothesis is the ultimate. Chea is after adele by right going back to the past Which involves finding alone Because alone who's the you know. The little kid from from win hill who knew laguna who apparently is like squalls. Sister orphanage yeah and they have a at the very least she was like big is what they call relationship whether it is biological more just you know right although he's only remembering because of courses but she has this power to like send you back in time to like dreams right like through dreams like she can kind of like send your consciousness back like that has been like what's been going on with the laguna stuff and so ulta media is this. Is this witch from the future. Who's trying to dip back. Further in time and like over tape is like answer like she had possessed media who had like a source risk potential and by being possessed by ultimate became like this really awful evil version of the witch and now that that's defeated idia hypothesize that ultimately this witch from the future is now going to try to guam onto this sources. Who you up until now have never heard of named adele who was like apparently like this horrible awful ruler of star and so like is like yeah that combination would be very bad. Because at least. Like when i'm on a good day i'm pretty cool. I'm pretty chill. Yeah adele was just awful so the combination she probably be very willing to accept the help and then that could be very bad for us if she dips back in time and takes over adele. This could be very bad for where we are because that's an earlier point in time and so suddenly you're like oh god. Is there time travel stuff happening here. Somebody does save the phrase time compression. Which i just wrote with a bunch of question marks. Yeah i think that they explain it to a degree here but basically like time. Compression is like like everything is going to get like destroyed. Basically like timelines are going to fold in on each other like nothing will make sense. All time will basically see successor. Whoever holds the power at the center of it. and it's like that's kind of like ultimately is plan is like sort of like a radical life by radical time And india's like. Yeah so that's who really wanna be fighting. Sorry for what. I did when i was drunk. I'm better now. Yes yes me. This is a very trophy final fantasy stuff of like the actual person. You're fighting isn't who you think you're fighting. It's this thing that's been possessing me like there's like you know there's other stuff going on. It's it's bigger than you think. This time also said like reprimand squall. For because he's he's shirking his responsibilities by being here or something. He's like you know you're in a position of authority. You need to take care of your people that are by the way sit students And like be responsible like you get out of here. Yeah yeah not great since terrible. Now you know a little bit more about like what's going on but do you So many more than answers you know the job is not done. You've defeated media but now idiolect is back to being like totally cool and even though she's like ultimately could totally take me over again at any time and i'm very freaked out about that. So let's keep an eye on me would be great if she does say like you know if that happens like if i start acting weird again then you have to fight me and like that's okay. You got to do it. Yeah yeah so. She's like giving permission. Like kill me. If i win by the way i can't do anything about annella can't help you sorry i can't help you there. Yeah like renault is just like stone. Cold passed out what to do about it. Yeah so i'm not entirely sure what happens next procedurally. I know you have to try and track down alone. Who went off on the white seed. ship You know we. We saw that happen that you like went off with this. Other group of of seeds were directly for media But you have to travel around the world to find them in like give them like a handwritten note from india to buick. It's okay we're cool. You can let us on your shit. There is some laguna in here. I that's right. What's the lagoon a bit so to get to. This is interesting because you go back to see renault again. You're like i still can help you can help you. I don't know what's happening And i don't know if squall like falls asleep like at renault renault's bedside but you go into another laguna sequence For the first time you get asked to like joe like part it says party junction Rather than like switch member and it asks you like which of your players you want to junction to which of the dream people which has never had ride for right right right. Is this the the dragon yes salacious. You show up in this dream and like you're with lunatic. Curious in ward is there too. Because i didn't do something that i could have done. I guess is what the author says. And laguna i guess. Because he's hard up for cash is going to be an actor in this movie. Yeah he's traveling around the world. And i think what you come to find out right is like. I think that you've come to find this out at this point. Maybe you don't but he's like he's traveling the world because like something has happened to alone he needs to get to s star and so he needs cash and so he's going to make money but by being an actor he's gonna make a quick buck by being in like hollywood. They'll say it's so he's like fighting a dragon. That's supposed to just be curious in ward in a dragon soup but turns out to be an actual dragon and you do have another one of these mini games or like it's like it's the exact same mechanics block and then like hit. The dragon hit the dragon. Hit the dragon. yes it's stupid. It's really whimsical and goofy. And i actually kinda love it. I've loved the sight. Gag of laguna is interest like this gigantic suit of armor. I'm like you know trumping along. There's like some filmmaker who is like reading him for filth to being leg. You're terrible at this lagoon. Oh god it's an actual draft. Yeah and then. I think like after you do that like this is like probably probably the thinnest of the laguna dream sequences at this point. It seems like it's just like sort of like whimsey for the sake of it doesn't like a loan like chime back into squall and smells like you're doing this right like yeah like take back in like show you stuff but like it's getting harder and harder to do this. I also like maybe should have been like a big fight with this dragon You do like the mini game and then you have to do a regular battle with the dragon but odin showed up so i didn't do anything. Yeah so mad. That i was like ready for a boss battle and then odin nope. I'm here ended. Yeah that's what happens like you get odin and then odin occasionally we'll just show up and like cut your enemies hat. Yeah through your battle for you. it's ground yeah so this this dream sequence and then squall alone talk to each other through the dream for the first time really and squall is like well. Can you help us. Where are you and she's like. I can't she's trying to like disconnect and like put him back and she can't figure out how to do it She's asleep so she's not so she's there she says In then i two. Now you gotta find that Sorry i'm gonna go and find her. You need to get again like you need to get like a handwritten note from eds. Take this to the white seed ship. Find it and it's kinda hard to without without a walk through eventually. Consult one like an inlet somewhere on the center continent. We're like basically their inlets and also this is like me playing final fantasy seven getting in the way because the mechanics of driving. This ship are completely different from the mechanics of driving high wind. And so i kept trying to What i didn't realize this is trying to back it up instead of drive it forward so the camera angles were all weird so i couldn't see anything and it was just like really clunky and then the the white sea chip is actually very small. Like i thought you'd kind of be able to see it. From a distance given how big like the gardens are tucked in a corner hiding under it really is just like sort of like out of the way but eventually find it and when you get their way of initially they don't wanna talk to you but you're on the ship. You run into your friends from the timber or timber zone and watts show back up. Mr perpetual stomach ache himself. He's still he's weird riley sort of like the anti effi fine in like on like a mobile vessel. But you talked to eventually like you're able to convince them like you're not bad people and like you've got the note for media cool. Well we would love to hook you up with a loan but something happened. Scott this permission slip from my mom. Yeah yeah my mom says it's okay so alone. Apparently like day had been like attacked by galbani forces at one point. They had like some fairly epic adventure. And then like a ship from s star showed up and again like you recognize the design of our because like during one of the laguna dreams. You fought these like Very high tech looking soldiers in their from these. These are the people so this is from this apparently like huge massively important country that like we have yet to really see anything of at this point in the game We've been focused on gal. But like these soldiers from s star show up and the head of the white seeds is like the weirdest thing alone just kind of like ran up to the edge of the ship like shouted at them on the other end. She just jumped. Yeah she just jumped. She decided she would go with them. So yeah we don't know where she is but she jumped off to go be with people in star and i think at this point squalls like great. That's not massively helpful at all. I guess we'll go there. You find out that like the way to get to start is by taking these train tracks from fishermans horizon like we talked about last week. This divide in the on the world map where like you cannot sail through. Because there's these very annoying train tracks in the middle. And i guess it's for a reason because this is like the train that connects s dr to the rest of the world but the train. The trains are not running so squall is going to decide like i will walk the trains. And what's more. I'm going to bring renault with me. You back to you. Get back to the ship and you talked to. Nita is the like captain at this point. The student who is driving the and when you say you wanna go s star. He's like oh man. Xenophobic s stardom. Like oh boy us not going to be great And they say the area's terrain is not really suited for flying the guarded and squalls like anyway of course for the like he is not listening. He's not having. He's not having it but he he's he's going to go rogue he goes by himself with renault who he takes her to the hospital because he thinks that maybe an sr wake. They may be able to help figure out what to do with her. She's unconscious and maybe like if alone. They are maybe she can help. He's just going to piggyback rides. Yes yes yes. I totally unconscious person. You see him with. He's walking across the train tracks. He's got like renault on his back. He's gone completely alone. it's a lot. He literally has to sit her down and sit by the train tracks. At one point they have a moment. i mean it. Swallow finally says a lot of what he's been saying in his interior monologue out loud because like renault is not contras ed so he feels comfortable expressing himself but like he starts to talk about how i put so much pressure on me and like everyone thinks. I don't feel things but i do. I definitely feel things. I hate what everybody thinks about me. And i also hate that. I care what everyone thinks about me. Poor sweet away yeah. He's just like bearing his solar is like it's a lot. I can't like tell people that i actually feel things. Because then they'll make fun of me about. And then i get sad so i just tell everyone. I don't like them. But i actually really like. What excels kinda cool you know. He's like sort of just like opening up and he's like you understand. Don't usually like. This would have been nice the year when i wasn't an address but he's like he's like sort of like in this place now. We're like because she's been like rendered unconscious like he like is like fairly like dead set on like. I'm gonna do what i can to save renault. I don't. I don't want i don't like this. This is bad. I wanna i wanna see if my friend were. You know we've got rings and everybody said if you've got matching rings in europe s right well might get the wrong idea the might get the wrong idea or the or the right idea with matching rings. She has to you know she has to be saved so eventually he picks back up. He gets the other side of the train tracks. And this is. I believe where where we stop for this episode. There is like one last little twist your friends are there. Somehow they got there. I it makes you wonder. Why did they overheat. They was in roku walk really quickly. i think he's having don't want eavesdrop. This is awkward. But all your friends are there and so is eighty s surprise. She's here and she can join your party now for a while so you can now. She's like yeah. I'm coming to s star because like therapy varies scientifically advanced. And they may be able to do something about this. Witching is that i've got going on. See if they can't Can't fix me up. They may be able to help renault. And i think that they can help me. so eds has joined the party. You can indeed lay as idiots not permanent but it is for now deal and like i think her weapon is literally. she's just like shoots out like ice shards yeah So if you want like you're you know this isn't a game where you really need to like grind anyway so you can just you throw junctions on her. Have a good time. It's fun to play. As i remember like this happening when i played the first. I'm like whoa. I'm playing as the bad guy. This is kinda sad. it's fun second. I surprise but i think that. That's that's where we leave off. Were like we've had this moment of like. She was the bad guy and now she's a good guy. Now she's one of us like this is so wild And also like we are going to some sort of like terrifying xenophobic nation. I thought that we were dealing with that with gal beta. But there's apparently even there is there. Is there a worst place. It's at least a different place. It's a new place we don't know much about it. we also now are finding out new names of villains. You're hearing about your hearing about adele and also what happened to renault of for renault. She's been knocked out. We want to know how to fix. That alone is like we're not in a great place. We don't we're not. We're away from our ship. We're just all on a lot. A lot has gone down so when we resume even more show occurs when we come back next week. We're going to s star. We're gonna check that place out we will go to a place. That's even wilder than s though star by by far zad is going to be like the most eye catching place that we've been to so far a thing without peer also has my least favorite music in the entire and maybe the entire france boy. I just don't like it. But i'm biased. I i i was gonna say i don't want to influence your opinion too much but it's too. I know you'll tell me how you feel the whole exercise this. I know i know one of doing. So we're gonna go there and then we're going to go to like a totally different place in connection with star our but very very very different and all sorts of mad. Shenanigans are going to ensue as a result so the word that i'll use to Both ts to the people who are playing along But also to us. Ed as far as like a where to stop point will be once we have gained. Control over ragnarok. Yes yeah a word that. I'm sure you're very excited about newly minted. Thor ragnarok superfan brooklyn. I know you do all right. 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Criminal markets and the criminals who shop there. Elections may be safe and secure, but influence operations seem here to stay. TikToks state of play. Indictments and extraditions.

The CyberWire

22:12 min | 8 months ago

Criminal markets and the criminals who shop there. Elections may be safe and secure, but influence operations seem here to stay. TikToks state of play. Indictments and extraditions.

"Funding, for this cyber wire podcast is made possible in part by last pass. Last passes an award-winning security solution that helps millions of individuals in over seventy thousand organizations navigate their online lives easily and securely businesses can maximize productivity while still maintaining effortless strong security with last pass. Last pass can minimize risk and give your it team a breakthrough integrated single sign on password management and multi factor authentication solution. A. Sarah Sarah's is available for free. The Empire markets older betrayed customers are probably looking for another marketplace where English is spoken and it seems the Russian mob is selling access to North Korea's Lazarus. Group. MSA thinks us. Elections will be safe and secure, but the influence operations are probably ear to stay. Betsy Carmelite from Booz Allen Hamilton on medical device security. Our guest is Jonathan Langer for Medicaid on lessons to help clinical and it leaders at institutions heavily affected by Covid nineteen two Iranians are indicted for espionage and theft and more evidence allegedly surfaces always role in sanctions evasion. From. The cyber wires studios at data tribe I'm Elliot peltzman in for Dave Bittner with your cyber wires summary for Thursday September seventeen, twenty twenty. Blue. Some notes from the criminal underground have surfaced at mid week. I cus Burski researchers say that the proprietors of Serra's malware having made an attempt to auction it off on the dark web block have now simply released Source Code Berries v two for free to Russophone hacking communities. zd Net points out that cerberus had earlier this year on offer in the form of Malware as a service but that the developers attempted to auction it off in July. They'd set initial bid said fifty thousand dollars and hope to raise one hundred, thousand dollars. Those attempts were unsuccessful no takers, and so the source has now simply been dumped. The reasons for the free release are unclear. When the auction was announced people hawking. CERBERUS said they were putting it on the block due to a lack of time and because the team is broken up. That team would have been the group that developed and maintained the malware. What this means is that defenders should expect to see more cerberus attacks using the last version released and that some attackers who've picked up the code will probably try their hand at developing evolved versions. Second now that the empire market has fallen in an exit scam, it's proprietors departing for parts unknown with users cash, where are the criminals to go to trade? They're all coins for drugs, guns, and so forth. Security firm digital shadows. This morning released its review of the Empire's possible successors in the criminal contraband market. The researchers conclude that empire disappointed members are likely to turn to another anglophone marketplace, which will probably end up fleecing them to. Digital shadows notes that there are a number of relatively stable and well established russian-language dark web sites where contraband is traded. Why don't the English speakers simply move over to one of those Well. For one thing, the russophones tend to find the anglophones somewhat tiresome. They treat the English speakers rudely. For another thing the anglophones have trouble communicating in Russian the English speakers we're talking about there. Probably, let's be honest for the most part largely Americans. You know that someone who speaks several languages is called poly-lingual and someone who speaks two languages is bilingual. What do you call someone? WHO SPEAKS ONE LANGUAGE? American. Won't always kills me Break Donkey Sean I'll be here all week. anyways expect one of the smaller. English. Speaking markets to fill empires ecological niche and expect them to eventually scam their customers to. And third dark reading reports that researchers at security firm Intel four seven one have concluded that there is a connection between Russian cybercriminals and the North Korean governments Lazarus Group. Gone Young has long been interested in redressing its sanctions induced financial shortfalls. In the Lazarus Group has served that objective with financially motivated hacking. The basis for Intel four seven one conclusion is the Lazarus groups access to financial services organizations that was evidently purchased from Russian. Gangs who've used trick bought to establish themselves in the targets. There was a lot of speculation yesterday that the US administration would probably welcome by dances proposal to establish the US TIKTOK operations as an independent company with Oracle taking a minority share. That speculation seems now to be premature. The Wall Street Journal reports that US Treasury Secretary Mnuchin and other officials have signaled that a minority stake by an American company in Tiktok won't be, enough to allay, security concerns Dark trays tells CNBC. All of the political wolfing about Tiktok shouldn't obscure the general need for greater transparency about what companies do with the data they collect. And, it would be a bad thing. Should companies tangled with questionable data handling come to believe that from a cost benefit point of view it's better to spend your money on lobbying than on security. As the US elections. Approach General. Paul Nakasone. Say Director and commander. Of the US Cyber Command so that he's confident those elections will be safe and secure. The organizations he leads have made election security priority. Mattock says General Nakasone. Yesterday's intelligence and National Security Summit that their approach has had three main areas of emphasis. which he phrased as questions. First. How do we generate incredible insights on our adversaries? Second have we share information and intelligence with the lead of our nation's election security, which is the chess and also FBI. And the last piece how do we impose outcomes on any adversary that attempts to interfere with our democratic processes? Again he's confident that they have these areas under control but influence operations. General Nakasone said are the great disruptor and they're here to stay. Cyber Scoop quotes him as saying quote we've seen now on our democratic processes I think we're going to see it in our diplomatic processes. We're going to see it in warfare we're going to see it sewing civil distrust in different countries and quote. Foreign Affairs has a long essay in its current issue on how Russian influence operations have evolved since two thousand sixteen. In general direct tro farming while it hasn't gone away has fallen from its former position of prominence. It's the sort of inauthentic behaviour that's just grown too easy to detect. Instead, the operators have done other things from the low level gift of persuading people to rent their social media accounts through the establishment of plausible front organizations to the hiring of. Useful idiots right for them. While Russia has been the leader other governments have shown themselves willing to learn from the best and state run online influence campaigns are likely to become. The essayist argues a permanent feature of future. Democratic elections. China, Iran and Venezuela have already shown their ability to adapt some Russian methods to their own purposes. They haven't been dull pupils, but they're positive objectives are inherently more difficult to achieve than the negative disruptive goals. Moscow is interested in. The. US Attorney for the District of New Jersey has indicted. Two Iranian nationals whom in Heidar in and Medi ferrall. On charges of conspiracy to commit fraud and related activity. Computer fraud unauthorized access to protected computers computer fraud unauthorized to damage to protected computers conspiracy to commit wire fraud access, device fraud, and aggravated identity theft. The allegations describe in increasingly common pattern a mix of state directed espionage in privately profitable crime as hackers. And finally, Reuters reports that connections have surfaced between Wa. Wa gives and an obscure Hong Kong based company Sky Com. That's at the center of US investigation and evasion of sanctions against Iran. While way, CFO Mang Wenzel currently faces extradition to the US in Vancouver. Court. Reuters thinks the disclosures of closer ties to sky. Calm are likely to lend support to the US case for her Bishen from Canada. and. Now a word from our sponsor extra hub securing modern business with cloud native network detection, and Response. The massive shift to remote work has turned the reality of work on its head with cloud and multi cloud adoption comprehensive visibility is more important than ever. But in order to protect your business, you need more than unified visibility you need intelligence response workflows. So teams can collaborate easily and act quickly. Extra hop helps organizations like wizards of the Coast Tech threats up to ninety five percent faster as John crease senior it engineer puts quote extra hop is helping US accelerate cloud adoption by ensuring our workloads our secure. See, how it works in the full product demo free and no forms required at extra hop dot com slash cyber. That's. HALF DOT com slash cyber and we thank extra help for sponsoring our show. Able. Jonathan Languor, and his team at mitigate have been diligently working to protect hospitals along the East Coast and new. York City during covid nineteen. We'll hear now from his recent conversation with Dave about lessons they've learned. We'll healthcare organizations naturally. Very Let's say a very challenging situation right now, given the pandemic a I think on the one hands challenges addressing the concern around the pandemic treating people the way they should be to the best of their ability into that end expanding some of the facilities moving medical devices from location to location moving physicians. Of course, there's a huge challenge there other challenges. Of course, at the same time, just like other enterprises are doing is or I guess was setting up a remote networking capability to allow the unessential workers to continue to support enterprise doing those two at once. That's quite a heavy list, the way the nonsense. We'll take us through some of those specific challenges. What sort of things are you in your team tracking? So what we're doing right now what we're tracking is. I think in high level I would say that the security concerns that healthier organizations had before the pandemic, and in fact been I think even heightened given the pandemic everyone is more focused on on medical devices on their assets over the network, finding them using them protecting the other piece that were hearing more, and this is where where we're addressing this challenge as well is that they're saying. is important by now more than ever operational efficiency is also. So what we're trying to do was to use our technology to address security. Of course, that's the bare minimum but at the same time, also harnessing the capabilities of the technology to actually provide operational efficiency and I'd say in fleet of medical device fleet optimization as well for the enterprise. So it's curiosity that naturally is bringing in technology, but at the same time, the entire enterprise benefiting from ID, that's what we're trying to cater to these days. And what are some of the practical ways that they're able to do that? What what sort of things can they put in place? So. To me the first step a in this process is inventory. You have to have good network visibility in proper inventory in order to understand just from a security perspective what needs to handle based on that you can says risk and prioritize your assets. It really started security program. A wounds realized which I think this is a very interesting notion. These days is that this technology with regards to Can also give you key insights in terms of the usability of devices that utilization of the devices if you're good and you have the right, a healthcare focus perhaps also for scripted recommendations as to how to manage these devices to the most efficient way. So they can get more out of them actually savings. Funds that's the challenge that full circle that we're trying to do from security all the way back to operational efficiency and back security. Jonathan Lander from mitigate. And now, a word from our sponsor dreyfus the sure to catch dragos next Webinar, how to create an OT cyber risk strategy for your board on September thirtieth when they address strategic. Security drivers that factor into a cyber risk strategy including unique considerations for ot it an Iot? visit. Dragos. Dot Com slash events that's dragos dot com slash events and we thank Dragos for sponsoring this show. Book and I am pleased to be joined once again betsy. Carmelite, she's a senior Associated Booz Allen. Hamilton. That's it's always great to have you back I wanted to touch today on medical device security in some of the things that you and your team have been looking at in that area. Would you have to share this today? Sure to jump in I? Think you know if you're looking at? Kind of current day, especially during our covid nineteen environment and you're looking at threats to medical devices. Let's say in a hospital setting this really stir up some some nightmare type of situations in your mind. For example, if critical patient information becomes unavailable as a result of cyber attack. That would have an impact on how a doctor can treat that patient also a device such as the cat scanner or to go down. Er Doctors lose critical capabilities to select treatment for let's say a stroke patient and we've also seen an increase in the expectation phishing campaigns and threats to federal agencies with healthcare being a key target. Why are they targeting healthcare? What's the? What's the draw there from the threat actors? Sure, so cybercriminals really continue to target medical in life science devices in organizations because. Thursday of a profit to be gained there we're seeing you know clinical clinical labs with devices involved in Koefoed nineteen research and testing targeted major hospitals are experiencing ransomware. We've seen the recent. Reports of ransomware targeting medical ventilator manufacturer, and really the cybercriminals are looking for ways to monetize. Gain revenue they believe they these organizations have the best chances of paying the ransom because every victim is really measured by their estimated revenue. And who is likely today the largest amount been. I've obviously I mean hospitals places like that or literally dealing with life and death situations right right and they're also looking at organizations and companies that might share compromise infrastructure counter vendors This is why we've really seen a rise in attacks on healthcare entities over the years and more recently. That healthcare data just has high value on the black market Could possibly include all the patients Pi. Now, what sort of advice do you have for folks who are operating on the medical side of things? Any words of wisdom? Sure we we've been looking at this fairly closely. For the last year. So we we really think that the medical device embroider healthcare. Ecosystem needs to transform across stakeholder collaboration is really needed to do this So we're looking at regulators. Healthcare delivery organizations, manufacturers, they all need to play a role in the other Secondly, name we're we're seeing that medical device manufacturers of adopted processes for vulnerability disclosure and coordinating together, and that's all the with an endgame to promote patientsafety in the security of medical devices. So that level of information sharing. Inclusive of disclosing the existence of vulnerabilities end with mitigation plans is key to really minimizing the impact of security vulnerabilities both for patients organizations. And for the privacy of the data that that could be at risk. Do you suppose that that everything we're going through and have gone through with the covert pandemic is is going to leave a stronger on the other side of this when when the pandemic is is in the rear view, mirror our medical organizations having been through this experience will they be in a better place security-wise I think medical device organizations can can seize this opportunity to work to address cybersecurity not just in a defensive posture, but looking at it and security by design. So they can take this opportunity to look at security through the product life cycle, which includes during the design phase, the development phase through to end of life so that they're able to. Secure those devices at every stage and have the flexibility. To work that the security. Architectures into the devices. And I think it will probably also prepare them to have business continuity plans backup protection disaster recovery processes more solidly in place as well. Right well betsy. Carmelite, thanks for joining us. Thank you. Thanks to all of our. For making the cyber wire possible especially are supporting sponsor proof points observant the leading people centric insider threat management solution learn more at observed dot com. And that's the cyber wire for links to all of today's stories check out our daily briefing at the wire dot com and for professionals cybersecurity leaders who wanna stay abreast of this rapidly evolving field sign up for cyber wire pro. It'll save you time and keep you informed. Listen for us on your Alexa. SMART. Speaker to. The cyber wire podcast is proudly produced in Maryland out of the startup studios of data tribe or their co building the next generation of cybersecurity teams and technology. Are Amazing Cyber Wire Team is Peru Prakash Stefan Zero Kelsey Bon. Tim. No Dr. Joe. Kerrigan. Zero Ben Yellen Micheletti Tina Johnson Bennett Mo- Chris Russell John Patrick. Jennifer Ivan Rick. Howard Peter kilty Dave. 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Heracles Ep. 3: Herc, The Jerk.

Greek Gods and Human Mythtakes

46:47 min | 1 year ago

Heracles Ep. 3: Herc, The Jerk.

"Yeah my Anaconda don't want none unless she got her on Dobro. Thanks man that today. All right guys. This is episode three of Herrick lease. Welcome back to greet gassing human myth tags and this has been a little bit longer than we anticipated but we've been so pumped in so excited to get haircuts going dense got probably about four. Maybe five more stories to go. You know something like that. So this is this part is the after the Labor is what? I'm going to be calling the hurt. The jerk aspect of it because this is when heracles is no longer on the redemption tour and. He's just he's out there sleeping book while. Look Wild like his daddy is important to realize what these aspects of it mean to the the myth itself so these are later renditions of hair clear. Not There's almost like you can see the difference between this haircuts and the one before this herrick leases just explanations on why certain cities are founded. Why there's Greg colonies and magnet and Italy and it just explains I. It's their way of using propaganda to explain how cities are colonized. Explains why Greek is allowed to be the main person there and just ultimately. Why King's or King's so taken away destined here. We go all righty. Bo- we last lift you off with. Cerberus was the twelve labor so as Labour's done is wrapped up. He's good to go get home. Yep He's absolved of killing his wife and kids and he can go do his own thing so after his labors herrick lease he's wishing he he wants to be married again and he ascertains that you're it is who is. The Prince of Kalia has proposed the hand of his daughter Yolly as prize but in order to marry her. You have to beat your. It is an his sons in archery like an archery contest. I guess it's good news that he has abo- that never misses right so easy. You got legos. They don't need to know that so he's like. Hey that sounds like a pretty good deal. I can like you said I got a got. A boat never misses so. Let's give this a shot. So he goes there and Journa- fiennes approved himself. Better at archery than your. It isn't a sons but in the end he doesn't get the bride now if it is is the eldest son of your it is. And he's all four Hercules Marianna sister however eurydice and his other brothers refused because they fear that if he has children with her that he's just gonNa go crazy and murder him again. Yeah so you know. He's got that stigma now so loses loses out on. That will not long. After this happened. Some cattle were stolen by autologous. You're you're it is suspects that it was done by Eric. Lease like out of spite. But if it is he didn't believe it and he actually goes to heracles and when he does Hercules entertains them. And you know they're just kind of hanging out chit chatting would not but for some reason. Hercules goes mad again and ends up throwing if it is from the walls of the tyranny of tyrannus. Yeah and kills them kind of prison right? Yeah Yeah I don't I don't understand just chit chatting and do you know what I'm mad now off cliff very simple plot device right now. We've got Eric Louisiana situation where he's got can't live. Just settle down. We can't have rookie. We're hairclips getting all fat and stuff like those jocks from high school. Now he's going to stay fit and he's GonNa keep killing monsters on the ground he's GonNa. You can't can't just ways those talents now. People off the wall if you have to launch isn't gonNA keep the grind going so after that so after this. He's wanting to be purified of this murder. So he goes to a nucleus the prince of billions now nearly as rejects his request. Do his friendship with your. It is so herrick lease then goes to Amici and was purified by defoe son of apologies. Which is the son of theseus? I see what you're doing. So after this he's purified but he's got some disease now from the murder it's like Curse or something so because of the murder he's afflicted with a terrible disease so he then seeks out the Oracle Delfi yet again now when he gets there he receives no answer so he gets upset. Any actually grabs the Tripod of Oracle and he would have broken it out of you know his rage of not being answered mental Apollo steps in and pulls away. What are you doing? That's mine? Yeah were what's your problem. So him and heroically star beefing and actually get into a fight and who knows where it would win if zoo said and thrown a lightning bolt in between them. Stop Them. Well we all know that Apollo dot to get balled up. Yeah a lot of fight in him but I mean let's let's be real here. Herrick lease is so much more than Apollo is hollow went spouting off a little a little newborn baby that killed a giant snake. Okay well that's great Have you ever killed the Hydra? No backup on all the NEMEAN lion starts off one and you made a little oracle of Delphi. Outta here grow up get over your Hermes always more mature than you had a one day. Voice stole your cattle as an infant steal your Guelfi. So Zeus breaks up the fight by throwing the lightning bolt. We'll herrick finally gets his answer and he was ordered to be a slave to queen on Fale of Libya for some some say twelve months. Say three years so one two three years But the doesn't is that this isn't like his labors before servitude before this actually develops into like some kind of psycho sexual relationship between them. It's pretty wild. I want you guys to imagine your senior year. Your school does a big fundraiser. What's called like the the senior slave Auction where they these girls dress up. All the pretty boy jocks and make them look like girls. That's exactly what's happening here. And it's a big gender bender. Didn't that happen. This is exactly like that except for you know. This is a little bit bigger too. So keep in mind back. Then the Greeks. They thought it was completely abhorrent for them to be sold on this slavery. So the fact that Eric leases sold into slavery to a woman who then forces him to where the four hundred BC equivalent of made Alfred. You know it's pretty insane. 'cause he also makes them do feminine duties. Yes yeah well I was actually getting. I was getting to a eventually. They adopted the coastal wearing each other's clothes clothing by they. Well No. I don't think it was his idea though. No but yeah. He's really by no means was he. Like you know what would make this really great. If you wore my closing down warriors would make me feel so much better about being your slave. Yeah sounds right so M- fillet would wear his line. Hide and carry is huge club around now. Ancient Artists Portrayed Hercules wearing a yellow petticoat and having his hair coned by slave girls and Bar Thalmus Depicted him wearing a like purple negligee and a girdle that obviously didn't fit out in exotic. Yeah so she's just kind of wearing his battlegear yet. He's wearing like seductive female clothing. You know it's kind of A. Yeah it's interesting. Well this leads to very interesting kind of encounter with Your boy pan entered the building. Every story this is probably perk. Some ears out. Oh Yeah so one night. The two lovers are asleep and they're wearing each other's clothes they go to bed like that pans sneaks in the dark and he starts feeling around. He felt the lion hide and was like okay. This this herrick lease so he lies next to the other body thinking he would have his way with Whom fillet well. He starts feeling around and he feels he's Harry is and he's like what is all right. Well maybe she just doesn't shave. It doesn't really dissuade him out all of course nice. Yeah he's half go. Yeah so he continues. Riding up by into herrick lease wakes up and they get into a tussle on herrick lease throws them on the ground like pins him and then proceeds to start laughing at him like you know because he realize what was going on and Heraclitus thought it was like really dude well from then on Pan Despise close in had hallways followers renewed. Reasonable Reaction Yeah. There's actually isn't there like a statue depicting this thanks. So we're paying wrapped around leases and it's just a big. Yeah pollster probably got scared that Tables were about to be turned yeah. I'm sure I'm sure he was. He threw me off now so well other than the You know crossdressing thing. They had going on. Herod did perform some actual tasks for the Queen as well for instance. He captured the city of the ATONIS. which was Libya's fiercest rival and he ended up enslaving them then after that he killed Silas who was a tyrant of all of us who he compelled all foreigners to till his vineyard which is kind of weird. And a little bit. I it's you know similar to all the guys we've talked about like if you're if you're a traveler walking by they're like hey if you wanna pass to Russell Nagin yeah well this guy he was a if you want to pass you. GotTA TILL MY VINEYARD. Naked Soom does not specify but given their track record. Yeah given given the Times it was probably nude probably give them the option like till my field or wrestle me naked. Who like you know what I've seen this in this episode of Law? I know for a fact I will not live. Yeah so I'm GONNA die naked. I would feel negative. I will I will tell the field happily. So heroic lease ends up killing him with his own. Ho Rewrite see yeah so herod shows up. He's like hey to my vineyard in he's art venue you know. Why am any books up? The hurricanes was just takes home. Kills Him because he wasn't wearing the clothes you know that's exactly what it was mistaken? Identity but haircuts didn't stop there. He also burned down the vineyard and killed his The guy's daughter Zina dice didn't been steal her like he usually does. No he did not steeler. He just killed her. This is not the same heroically that we now. It's not. He's getting a lot more. Dr Is not messing around and and Also another task performed as he captured the cer- copies which were forest creatures. Who are known steel. They were there Vc depictions of they'd look like a just you know monkeys. I plan on upload in some of those two guests. Yeah so that's probably what they were they were just like monkeys monkeys steal things and be little little rascals so yeah so we captured them but story has kind of a funny turn Once he captures them he ties him to a shoulder pole and while he's carrying them like you know they're they're bound upside down on the shoulder. Poll Harris carrying them. They take a look and they see his darkly tanned posterior and it makes them laugh. Herrick was here's some laughing and he gets mad. He's like Hey. What are you guys laughing at? And when they tell him Herrick lose actually starts laughing. We think that's funny. Any ends up just untying them letting them go log is the key to heracles laughter. Telling me as if I'm ever captured I have a chance you got a chance. That's all I do. And it's awkward situations. I crack jokes because I don't know what to do. If you ever tied to a shoulder pole hold way laugh at those guys laid the blueprint for their by telling the joke. Copay laugh if not. You're dying anyway. Order Win Win Win lose. But you know in that lifeline. You've got nothing to lose another thing. He did while in the service of inflation is he actually discovered the body of ICARUS. That washed ashore now. I think we talked about this. Only we haven't yet we will later. We didn't okay. Okay I mean. Everyone knows the story of aspect. Yeah Yeah so we'll get diggers the story later but just know that he dies and gets washed on shore inherit. Enzo burying his body and doesn't he find Found a city. No it's on an island. Yeah Yeah Yeah. It's on an island and you kind of names island after it cruise ensure it's pretty light to pick him up. I'm sure it was like a feather I I get it. That's pretty slick and you did it on purpose to will plead no among these other. Things you did is during this time. He also took part in the Caledonian-born hunt and he was on the Argo for a short time but into he ended up abandoning ARGO when his youthful companion was snagged by noon. The best the best example of how to explain his contribution to the ARGO and Jason the the Golden Fleece is. It's like when they get a list of b-list actors for a movie and they're worried about not getting enough people to pay attention so they throw this big name. It's like Arnold Schwartzenegger will be in this two. He's in there for a total of ten seconds in year at the movie theater like that. That's that's why I'm here. Yeah and now. It's literally just a little came Spiderman three when everyone showed up to see venom and he was on the TV screen for fifteen minutes fifteen minutes but we definitely got to see an Emo Tobey Maguire. So that was great. That's exactly what this is a long time ago. So they're they're like so man. This is not enough big names in here so we gotta get heracles in there to. What does them roll off because otherwise he'll just do everything for us and Jason will be the hero man? No nothing like fifteen year olds that is up there and Dr Times. If a few now believe this was the conclusion of his service with her he did his time as one two three years however long it was at least the major stories. I can't think of any other ones. I can't either. All I cared about was pants. I'm glad we got that. We had throw that in there yet. Pan couldn't get it in. You know he couldn't need never seems to be a really doesn't I guess. He gets all of his followers to not wear clothes so yeah I think what does that really like. A big deal back then. I feel because they did like the Olympics and the Games nude. I'm sure they did. The cow donation Boron Nude but pants. I'M GONNA keep her informed or I so now hair. Cleese's time has done with unfazed on his one three years over long so he decides now to go back and get revenge on August. If you guys remember he was one of the labors with the stable and claimed that manure yeah clean manure and then. August kind of stiffed him on the on the reward payment so Hercules is coming back Vinci now because nothing says vengeance like dressing up like a woman for three years and been forced to do all of her feminine things so this is what got him. What happened was he wasn't able. He stood on a doors like I got to think about some well. He was cleaning. The Hammer wasn't able to do as normal man stuff so he's like now. You know what who stepped me earlier? Got It grudge exactly so. He actually raises in an Acadian Army to march on August. Audience hears about this and he appointed eurydice and Katina's as generals. Now these are not two separate people. They're they're actually two men joined together. They're like a conjoined twin and they're considered stronger than any man. You know physically. They're stronger than any man. Which is weird to me. I don't think Greeks understand how that works because I feel like that would actually be harder to fight. But can you imagine like? Yeah 'cause they make Gary on awesome because like he's got like three bodies but it'd be more of a hassle than the benefit yeah just doesn't know at Greeks they didn't know that lions mate with lions. So you know what? They probably didn't understand this. Let's give him a pass on so shortly after all this stuff goes down. Hercules actually falls. Ill and he kinda conducts a truce with Malia needs but afterwards they attack anyway in slay many of Eric leases men well Herrick Lazy. He beats the retreat. He's like all right this. I'm ill I'm in. No shape defy. Lot of my guys are done. I'm high tailing it so at the celebration of the Games heracles kind of stages a surprise attack. And while the Mola Mola needs are taking part in this games. Herrick was actually blindsides. Them Way Lazim kills them at the at the ceremony after that he marched on illness and took the city after killing Audience in zones. So what did you do the daughters? That's the question that we all want to know. Because Harry's has a bit of a tendency you know yeah steal your daughters. I couldn't really. I didn't really see anything about if he did anything with the daughters but he actually did give the he restored. Philias of together that took Hercules aside. He restored him and gave him the kingdom made him the king. Yeah I mean we would all bed. I mean he'd committed complete sacrilege though. So it's important to remember during these Games during the any of these two. There's supposed to be nosy. Spire no war between any of them very rarely was at broken and when it was broken the city that was the perpetrator would end up getting fined by an arbitration. So keep in mind that this is a huge deal for someone who even the son of Zeus. He's supposed to be the person that's pushing for law and order and all these extra things so like I said this is this is why this part of Heracles is. You can tell. He's just like later in addition just explanation of things to come because it. It's just almost complete contradiction so while the Labor herrick lease is a contradiction between because he's a neither a man nor a god so he's the best of both worlds but the worst of both at the same time this Eric. Please just is kind of a man you know. He's just kind of doing things that men would do to further his own agenda further. There has the police that is trying to be represented by doing so. He's marching to the beat of his own during going to doing his own thing. Yep battled irk the jerk. Now Neil Well once he once he gets that out of a system he finally meets a woman he wants to marry. Golly and that leads us to Dinero now he meets diarrhea in a callen and he wiser but he's not the only one who wants her hand in marriage. She's actually already been promised to kill us. Who is a river? God with us doesn't sit well with Paraguay's obviously he's like you know what no I want her. And I'm the Sun Tzu. So we GONNA do about it and will they actually engaged in combat over and a callous takes the he takes the form of a bull in order to fight hair cleese but Hercules ends up breaking off one of his horns and after that happens. They're like aright. Obviously Eric Leases GonNa win. No more bloodshed need to die. You can have her so he ends up marrying a dinero because he Mississippi River go. Yeah just kinda broke it off there. Yeah what do you think is? Pickup lines are going to see my club Tagging you like my hide Do you purchase flags just walks up and we'll soup and just starts like dancing like Terry crews. That's I see him being that guy just walking just flexing owner. Not Enough for you. He's GonNa Brew Alright so after they get married. Herrick was actually He marched us with the Caledonians against the Thus brody ans ends up taking the city of Afro of which Phyllis was king afterwards he had sex with the daughter asked. Yok and became the father of to let to let bill miss okay. I think that's how you say it to level telepaths interesting name wall. While he stayed among them. He sent to Thespian to keep seven of his sons sin three to Thebes and the rest to Sardinia to plant a colony. So he started. He wants all of his. He's trying to spread them out. And literally and metaphorically spreading a C. Yeah Yeah pretty much well. After these events as he was fist feasting with a an alias. Stadium to her. Yeah he was just exactly after these events as he was facing with an aus he ends up killing. He killed with a blow of his knuckles. The son of Argentina's. I don't know how you do that. How do you accidentally kill someone with your knuckles? I've feasting just think he's just this giant buffoon man you know you must be 'cause the kid was just pouring 'em It was just boiling water on his and it was just like. Oh my wash my hands oprah could you're dead like I said I said lukewarm. That's that's a pretty wild accident. I would have liked to have been a fly on the wall. There see how that went down your kids. Poor watering your hands. And you accidentally kill him with your knuckles while the lad was actually he was a kinsman of aeneas but seeing that was an accident the father actually pardoned herrick lease but herrick lease wished in accordance with the law to suffer the penalty of exile and he resolved to depart to track is so he and his wife Dinero which. I'm sure sucks for her. Since that's her homeland she has to leave because her husband accidentally killed a kid with his knuckles. I just wish that there ever got would've won because he wouldn't just randomly kill someone for pouring water on him because he's a river. God wouldn't be in this mess. So they pack up and head out and they come to the river evidence now at this river. There's a Centaur name Nisus who sat there and ferried passengers across for higher. Yes same necessary in the movie. Hercules that Hercules fights at the very beginning. I boss you. What are you his undoing so when they get their haircuts can cross himself. Because you know he's he's he's not shook about a river right so he actually hires a necessary to carry his wife over while he while he goes I so heracles crosses and then necessarily taking a look at Dinero just wonder you know he's like Oh my gosh. She's hot her yes so he tries to rape her right there across the river but heracles hears her cries for help and he shoots necessarily side of the river with one of his poison. Arrows that were poisoned from the hydrogen venom. Now while Nisus land they're dying. He calls over Di Nero and he tells her to dip a shirt in his blood and give it to herrick lease to keep him faithful as she ever suspects him of being unfaithful to give him the shirt dipped in his blood. And it'll make him be one hundred percent faithful. Which if I'm her. I'm like you just tried to rape me. Why would I come over here as you're dying? We realize you'RE DYING. I guess I guess pretty trustworthy. Yeah in other. You're dead and you can't dying gang rape me. I guess I'll listen to what you have to say. I don't know hindsight and I'm not trying to beat a dying horse here I've really Maybe just maybe you don't listen to the person who just tried to rape you and your husband is saved you from. Because I don't know that they have your best intentions. Yeah Yeah I don't think yeah. They're very focused on your well. Being no no absolutely not so a little later little later on die nearest starts fearing that heracles is falling for. I Oli again. So she gives the shirt to herrick lease and the hydros poison starts eating away his seeps through seeps through and it makes us flesh unbearable like it's Burnin rashy and it's just driving him crazy just easing constant pain so once she realized what she had done die near actually hangs herself so she's like. Oh my God I accident. I listened to this. Npr tried to me. And I just poisoned my husband with Hydra Venom. So I'm going to hang myself a little bit worse too because what happens is Harris heat around the side of madness. Oh Yes freaking flipping out. Get it on purpose. So he's mad. It turns to a son with her and he tells her to tell them to go retrieve her. And this can you imagine just being put in this position like Your Dad's dying because they go get your mother so I can make her. I like me a okay Daddy. You know your Hercules. He's Eric Lee. So he's probably GONNA like ripper hands so he goes and he walks in and his mama tells them that it wasn't on purpose and then hangs herself so messes has effectively killed both of his parents and one thousand yes and then haircuts starts crying and he makes some like Awkward Lake Rhetoric. Where he's like not even the battles or slow or arrows or spears could kill me but undone by a woman and they start crying a big. Pour me pitting pretty sure. Sophocles says he cries like a woman and yeah he throws a pretty big city after this and then he ends up climbing Mount Ada and he builds a PYRE and he sets it on fire and jumps into quills agony. Now before any actually gives us Bo to passer-by well I kinda. So what happens is he makes them make him the PYRE and he has he gets on it because they don't understand laying on the positives and says chops wooden like okay. Yes yes sir. Hair cleese sir. And they do it. And he's like this and then they build the pirate gets on it and it's like okay. What and then one guys like all right. I'll do it and luckily did because then Harrison like. Hey man you can have this bow and over. Mrs Never misses and that Man's name is Phil and that Phil Man is a Goatman and Hercules. Movie it is. It's the same fill. It is but that fail ends up actually having a pretty big role in the Trojan war. So that's a pretty big. That's actually why they make the Achilles joke in the movie the fun fact for you guys. Yeah that is a fun fact. But so what happens is like? Do you have the news on that already. Or what happens to Harcourt's after this? Yeah when it gets taken to Mount Olympus and he gets married to he in turn himself turned into a DVD. Yeah so his mortal body is burned off. This is this is pretty metaphorical. You'll see this trope a lot In Greek mythology there is a an instance with demeanor where she is mourning over seventy being missing and she goes to the home of the family and in the end she goes into the room with this little kid and she's going to try to cast him in the fire to tournament moral and the woman goes in and she's like what are you doing with my baby. And she gets so past that she throws the baby and she goes never be immortal now so it was just second to evaluate the psyche of this. She's rewarding them without telling them that for their hospitality by putting their child in a fire and when they get mad that let's just putting their child in a fire. She tells us them out and go now. He'll never be immortal like okay. Yeah Yeah I mean you'll see it a lot though. That's what this is burning. Its Way I mentioned a little bit with the metaphor with the Hydra with the fire. Cleansing obviously fire cleanses Yup. It's a pretty big deal. Themes is that all you have been. Well no I actually Had something from homer's the Odyssey aren't I wanted to share now? Obviously this is a different account in herakles being taken to Mount Olympus. Unless this was just like a lingering part of his spirit in the underworld but homer accounts odysseus seeing the Phantom of heracles in the underworld and even it was formidable. Enough to cause fear and trembling around the underworld. That's how that's how real eric was. And this was I thought this was a really really cool quote about it about him. Rosa clamor from the dead as of birds flying everywhere and terror and he likes dark night with his bow bear in with Arrow on the string glared about him terribly. Like one in the act to shoot awful was the belt about his breast a ball. Dirk of gold were on wondrous things were fashioned bears and wild boars in Lyons with flashing eyes and conflicts and battles and murders and slayings of me and I just thought that was a pretty stone quote about Air Stone Cold Man. Exactly the Kinda give you goosebumps a little bit. You know you can kind of picture. Him just towering above everyone down there and just being real intimidating and cool shade Yup. Yeah so the the reason why his soul is down there. It's not a different rendition. It's the duality aspect of it. So I'll touch base on this with the Labor's as hammered home further here. There is the Eric please is a man of of no home. He is half man half divinity and he's welcomed by ninth by man and he is the he's hated and disliked by almost all the other deities because of what he is what he represents he out does them all his accolades. He's just going to be the chosen one for them so when his fire or when the fire burns his flesh the human soul of heracles. That half of him. The son of Amphibian now goes to Haiti's East god-like part goes up. That's can you imagine being stuck like you know like you're wondering the whole time like Ama- half-and-half but like your that you ended up being the half that ends up going down to Haiti's rose like knowing that your other half is married a he. Yeah just leaving it up there in limps like I bet. He's pretty drinking nectar right now down here talking to you of all people down here just mad. And that's why everyone's scared because I'm just big mad. Herrick was down here with my bow drawn. Joke Smash Smash exactly and so with Hair Ecclesia. He becomes a huge deal. Theseus was pretty big deal too. But these used was very very limited to Attica. Which is this a smaller region of Greece? This is this is haircuts. He makes it from all the way from Tyre in cash tire which is closer towards Egypt and part of the Persian empire. All the way over to Italy. This is this is not just your your regional guy are a hero and he becomes just such a loved character by everybody. You have the skins you have the Italians you have the Greeks. You have the Phoenicians. It's just it's so strange to see one person who's known by so many different places and it's not just like one of those things where it's just. He's known by different names. When Alexander the great besieged Tyre he went there with the pretense as his excuse to go and sacrifice to heracles and the people of tire knew that it was. It was a lie so they wouldn't allow him in there so then he's like well. I'm just going to build a big old Causeway then now tire is landlocked. So don't mess with Alexander. The great shows that he is so widespread and one of the things that I wanted to touch base with before we ended this episode. Since it's part three is just you? Know analysing why it's become such a big deal in the main thing that we want to hammer home is i. It's that duality aspect of them so with herrick lease he. He's not just your run of the mill. God where it's our hero that is somehow turns into a god you have to realize he's the only one that did so sooner or later someone decided we're just gonNA go ahead and we're going to give him that. God like status is what most likely happened but in the end I don't think can have into a better better person not not better quality of a person better meth. You're not saying man you're just saying story. So the reason why. The Myth of hair cleese is so important after all these years. It's not just how cool the stories are. Because I mean nowadays we have more in depth stories. We have things that have more conflict and we know at the end of the day is going to complete twelve labors. Yeah we know for a fact that Alan Labor to he's not going to get killed because otherwise it wouldn't be called the twelve labors a heroically sadly but the main reason that he is so relatable even today is that he forces us to look inward at our own faults and the faults of man as a psyche and his own his own contradictions. Herrick lease is the duality of writing that thin line that I talked about in the boundaries of man and the boundaries of God. He has to Tiptoe it all the way through but he also has all the vices that we as human beings have and he hits them an excesses so he doesn't know how to do it. It's small amount so you'll see stories where he is a glutton he's eaten so much you see stories where he's a sex fiend the story where he has fifty different women than he gets knocked up on fifty different days. He had the story where he causes. Chiron die because he opens up the cask of wine because he can't wait he he doesn't know how to do things and sustainable or moderation so he's he does sex and excess. He does drinking in excess. He's a glutton he's vain. He's worried about his own. Glory so these are all things that as human beings and especially as the ancient Greeks they were all things that resonated with them in right. Now you're probably saying to yourself now. Hold UP NEAL pump. The brakes a little bit. Seems like a little bit of a leap to say that all the Greeks had these vices. But I'm not saying that all of them did. I'm just saying that it resonated with them so not every Greek person at all or even one of these vices were. They were hitting an excesses that they've struggled with in their lives. But I'm sure that they had someone that they knew that did so. I mean just take a quick mental thought on it and his miss he is overly angry he has prone to rage. She's prone to fits. He's prone to gambling. He's prone to fighting. He's prone to killing on justified. He's prone to just getting drunk all these crazy things. Now think about yourself. How many times have you had thoughts that you've had to repress because civilizations told not to do it and then think about how many times you know someone who has struggled with any type of addiction like alcohol or something like that keep in mind that that's what the Greeks were thinking so? This story forced them to look inward at their own problems but also see that in order to become something more they had to strive to do all these labours Harry close. Even at his darkest moment he fought he thought a couple of times about ending it once where theseus talks amount of it and there's once right after he kills his children and his wife that he is contemplating suicide but in the end he doesn't so even at his darkest hour at the worst absolute moment of his life. He doesn't give in so it would be easy for me to sit here and say that it's because life's hard you know you got to face the tribulations. But I don't feel like that's what it is to me Eric. Leases story is about no matter what comes our way we have to I find what's causing it. Reflect Inward and then fight so we have a the first ever relatable hero inheritance when that makes us all see all of the things that matter to us that were even struggling with today like I said. I'm sure you have a list of people that you or yourself have had issues with these types of things so even thousands of years later. This is an issue. So you've got that. And then secondly he just. He faces them each labour an historic moment each labor. He has to fight something he pushes through it. He faces his with the naming. Line is his rage with the Hydra. It's as toxic city with the the hide. He has to figure out how to to be more patient so each time he's having to look into himself and then find a way to use to his advantage and he equips it later. On so in a nutshell herrick lease is the embodiment of what the ancient Greeks would have aspired to be if they weren't so damn terrified to look inward and it makes them uncomfortable. Which is a huge deal back then because tragedy or their their myths. They didn't focus on things like this. That's why the Sophoclean play for him is was such a big deal because it was so relatable he was such a such a human being made people uncomfortable you know. And that's mainly his his real deep you know heracles overcomes all these things but sucks. You know it really shows us. Oh as the Greeks for them they were they were pretty much the playthings that were prone to the whims and machinations of the Greek gods. Which is the whole point of our podcast Always want to make sure that was our tone is. We didn't matter to them. This is why they're no longer an actual pantheon because we know how little they cared. Yeah we were just things for their amusement. Yeah they'll have to play with so might not create someone who could be the perfect of both worlds but also be completely flawed like us now. Well it's interesting because a lot of the actual gods are flawed themselves but they're never depicted as any like no mortality. Yeah that's the Aragonese is the one that they slap of Mortality Label on. I mean they they have little quips where it's funny like you can tell. But it's almost like those were just a comedic tales like the not original ones. Because I feel like that's why like I said there's always like the contradictions in characters. Really Hammers home. That contradiction especially inherit cleese during the Labor's Eric after Labor is it's almost like a completely different character. It's like what is because you. You say he looks inward and asked to fight the stuff about himself in the Labor within after he's done it's just like folks mash. Yeah Yeah He. It's almost like when a doctor. Jekyll mister high. A terrible fan fiction comes out but somehow gets posted right someone gets published under your name and people are like what just happened like why is okay. Why did Harry CLEESE GROW TO BE? It's like season. Seven game of thrones you know and you're like Wow Jamie is this story arc for has been great and then he's like actually I do. I am terrible. Sorry and you know grief so glad that that happens like I didn't chain. Yeah Still Oh man. Don't get him started on that. Show three our four hour episode so this just keep my hair. Cleese is an amazing story. There's a reason why it lasts so much longer than the math. The math even though Blair ifan is to go use the go is that go. Greatest of all time. Yes yes even if you try to steal his horse perseus He's still do you believe on that's it that's all. I wanted to say and thank you so much for listening. And it's been a pleasure next episode. It's going to be perseus so keep it in that light guys. We'll see you guys in two weeks. Take it easy.

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Ep. 11 Jenova's Yacht Club

First Encounter

37:25 min | 8 months ago

Ep. 11 Jenova's Yacht Club

"This episode of first encounter contains spoilers for the video game. Final fantasy seven. If you've not played this game first off what are you doing. Don't be like me second. Go play instead of listening to us if you'd like to fall along. Listen to the end of the episode for where we play to next as well as how you can get in touch with us. We would also like to take a second to say that we are no way affiliated with square. We're just a couple of guys trying to have fun with the cool video game. Welcome to the first encounter experience. Welcome back to first encounter. It's this is from a friend of ours. I guess who has sent us a package in the mail from bopha a dunga what that is. But i'm assuming some sort of fun company and i'm using a sharp rose garden that i kind of looked like an arrowhead but it's definitely most likely not to open the second package. Looks like first of all so we've got the slick brown cardboard packaging here sleep because brown so get green gift bag with some ivory wrapping here some silver odd trim on the package and a little card dearest. Sir hamdi this gift maybe for you but all the joy inside is for your beautiful love crispy. i encounter. Podcast is number one. Ben thank you very sleep crispy. You're you're so now we're going to pull them these things or do you wanna pulling the strings with me. Please pull this one. You pull that one. You're holding both of you. Hold on the phone. Get tighter not. I think we actually did so we. We've opened the experience now. So there's some some tissue paper in here particularly crispy tissue paper and a small box inside what the actual these are ham flow flavored candy. Canes call the hamdi canes was exists. where did you find these. Why on the back. It says ham yourself a merry little christmas august. This is nightmarish. This is amazing. Thank you. I guess and i cannot wait to suck out on some of these pork flavored sticks the ingredients real quick. I really don't know that we should have an odor. Oh i don't know that that's really meet odor. But chris definitely second now. They're very media. Actually that is straight ham so thanks very much. August delightful yeah cheers. We will eat these sometime in the future. I definitely can't eat these tonight. Thanks welcome back to the first move. Welcome back to the sides very popular final fantasy dirge of cerberus video game looking. What final fantasy. Seven my balls to directly in front of me and the right and left and all around is a mr handy handy. How you doing sir. Would you like to plug anything while you're here before we get started at this gas. How do i get people to not listen to this and listen to the literally anything else way ahead. You already doing it. Nobody listens to us. Fantastic so yeah. I just cracked open a nice cold beverage on. Tell us what you're drinking sure. It's a mill river brewing. Beer beverage if you will called the days of hayes This is a apa. Actually american palo lower alcohol rates of five point five percent. And it's really drinkable. It's definitely not my favorite. I've in a while. I like a lot of their other beers a lot better than this one. This is just a new one. I wanted to try literally everything. I drink impacted today by the fact that it's so damn hot though so like anything. That's not just like cold water. I don't want to be fair to treat play some fancy today. We did do that. So last episode we. Let's see we left off with us getting to junan harbor. We had a fun. Cpr minium we had a fun dolphin. Mini game ahead. Fun marching mini game. Oh my god. Last episode was trash and then we learned how to do the game that we did today. Learning a strong word. I remember you telling me the funniest thing about this is that it's going to be at least a week or more until you have to play this again and you're gonna forget everything about how to do this. Many game turned out to be three weeks. I believe it such a nightmare but anyway we'll we'll get there and do that so we We opened the stage for our heroes headed down to the docks to send off the new president rufus. And that's where we begin. Yes running down the streets. I think like a barracks where we left off saving. We run out into the street and find basically that we have limited free rein over a certain area of john hybrid. So there's a couple of streets between us and where Rufus is going to be taking off from and there's a bunch of side alleys and side doors so we decided to spend some time exploring pick. You'll you won't weapons hell yet. Hard edge on buying god yet is holy shit grand glove shit. I'm going to have to sell stuff. Sell the buster sword peace peacemakers new. Right i just haven't met up lately. The basement of this place is like a speakeasy. So there's a bartender at a bar and sit at a table is rude seemingly gambling with a bunch of strangers enough of that dump stuff. Let's go downstairs and see what the fox on the secret speakeasy ellison's cold place. Is that rude. And a bunch of turks like gambling you to then take your mask off and come. That's our rule. No we're social distancing rude. I can't get it. Seems like you're all too young to be in here. Sorry it's all rented out today This is weird. Something's going on here some funky gambling of some sort. I don't know if it was supposed to just be like a fun. Little aside or if they're definitely missing out on their swirled building my man. There's so much in this game. I'm assuming that this is part of some sort of mini game side. Quests kind of thing. But i i couldn't figure out how to trigger it so this is just something that's at this point hopefully gets revisit. It from there moved on into the next door down that we could. We found. Go sir forgot about the ghost. You see the ghosts of all of the people that were giving you the details from sector seven because they obviously crushed to death in the plate accident. It was an accident. Don't worry about. It said the fuck is happening. Fuck is happening here. While while this is a respectable in guests omi you should absorb all the wisdom until the part of you. So do you remember way back in the beginning of the game in sector seven where you went to the like newby hall. Yeah and they're like hey teaches something clubs like oh rap with your a little. Yeah okay mr know it all ex-soldier let me revenge. I mean review of god is where the people in that hall. Why but they all died because of the plate. What the fuck. Why does this exist cruel. I'm literally stuck. Yeah i know it's a tutorial all. How are we doing this. Because i don't wanna play this game anymore. Don't you want to know how to save. You aren't going to get very far if you don't know how to save cress cra- this i don't know what you want world building. I don't like this place. I talked to one of the ghosts. And he's like. Hey mr ex-soldier no it. All your toriola so complex. I couldn't i couldn't return to the planet and now they're like stuck his ghosts. We also met the soldier who's uniform you've stolen. That was fun. Hey how could they do that. Nobody woke me up. Look at sascha from what does that. Look for nardo. I can't find the uniform. I left like i got it still uniform. Everything comes full circle cheese. Do you think this is what they call. Hazy oh no you shouldn't military's pretty bleak. Oh that's for kid. I'm not giving back. We've found some one thirty fifth soldier. So i think is happening is that there's a shrunken human. I think he's screaming. Received on one thirty fifth soldier that like a little like what thirty fifth scale a lot of fucking items in this place. This is great. I'm not gone to the parade. The road to becoming soldier first class classes very difficult always studying. What a good boy good boy. I hope he does well kiddies. Oh that's making the noise cute so we may come. Let me do that again. So moved through. The streets headed to the dock. There's a lot of dogs said. Wow oh i did. Can you give me one more. Wild wild pair. It is nope where the hell are we. Now we're in back alleys. Chris fill is out of order for an inspection right under is submarine and the underwater mako reactor. I'm sure it's fine. I don't worry about wild dogs and cats in this town like why there wasn't any like in the rest of the game so far. Speak the devil and another dog. What do you think like do you think they just like. We're like yeah. We'll add some flavor so we got to the docks and got the docks and kind of jump right into the game. I love the way. Heidi girl walks. I have and i walked the same way i know. He's struggling with okay. Oh no no go. This is the mini game. You learned. god i'm soaked. Cloud turnaround president's mood zero chris. I'm not doing so hot money. What i read. Thirteen me in the background. Shaking his head. He's very disappointed in you. What a mess that was. Were you think rufus executed believable whistles going off. And i'm like trying to like turn and like about face and like salute and all this other shit and i'm just pressing the wrong buttons all over the place. I'm are mapping is so fucked on the ps four controller that we have hooked up this team that the controls haven't really ever been the same every single game and we have to use the dry con instead of the d pads so things like turning and moving are actually extremely difficult. Yeah so didn't do super hot rufus was really uninspired. He told us that we needed to do better. And that there would definitely be budget cuts because of this performance One thing that was fun about this is that read. Thirteen is kind of hiding behind a barrel the entire time kind of shaking his head at. You've bobble fucking your way through this. You'll so after that abysmal performance soft. That happens everyone's dismissed but nobody leaves yet heidegger in rufus. Start talking back and forth between each other. yeah Is this when rufus kind of gives go the dressing down. Once word gets out that separates here cloud in his friends will show up to crush them students. We find them. We can't have them get in our way. Lever to me are identify on a personal level with heidegger. Thought i told you to stop that stupid. Laugh after everyone is finally dismissed their teams. Like hey like you gotta get on your the last one. Get on which triggers you to realizing that the rest of your team. They're already on the ship So you follow thirteen onto a ship. a little animation of a ship leaving john harbor and we find out that we're sailing across the sea to the new continent. I believe they call it my goal ride. I wasn't ready to leave. I don't like that they give a little bit of a horizon line because that makes it look like the earth is round and we all know. It's i mean this is a video game. that's just not reality. yeah there's so many items i'm liking. How many items have been loo. Those are good goods. That's a good good item all material. Yeah i'm gonna want that. Chris give us a little little refresher on what happens on on the boat. So there's a bunch of sailors seamen runabout place and clyde walks around talking to people gotta find your party members pick get to work both new president rufus in heidegger on board the ship. If you good we could get promoted by performance on the doc. I don't think any of us are getting promoted. I might be getting fired. Cloud drops out of avalanche. Joyce gender gets promoted becomes mid-level manager become soldier first class again hired to hunt down cloud gaming actually being credible. Hey what's your story. Hey what's wrong kid. You bet siemens gotta have. I'm tired. you gotta keep reading everything sorry. I was just flabbergasted by the fact that a man does sold me semen to drink right. Excuse me i mean what happened a something to drink. Because i need to tell you about the nipple heim accident. It's the nibble incident now. Oh man we're almost the costa del sol. When i get there. I'm going to take a long overdue vacation. Maybe i'll go down to the beach and get a tan. Just pretty cool. Didn't know there was other continents either heck and at the new continent spoil that for you. Did you do not doing it. Haters will say it's fake. We did take this episode three times certain talking to people and then you hit one chin regard. It's me ariff. And you're like who mr disguise. Yeah so eric tells you that the rest of their like armour and also disguised. And you're just kind of all stowing away kind of spine and seeing what's happening just kind of following the shinya. So yeah we We've got that. One of the seamen is era and that the rest of your your crew was on board as well so we go up to the deck. I think the next person we talked to is a very awkward looking. Walking guard turns out to be read. Thirteen walking on hind legs detail poking out of his zoo dot dot dot. It's me it's me movie. But i shouldn't get caught. Humans only look at appearances anyway. Tim mcveigh funding. Even being he might be the best after thirteen and find out that is their addresses. The guard as well as barrett would that you see how big barrot is just sure. Everything's quite sure. But you know what. I really hate this uniform. A uniform soldiers were a hit them all. Take away all the things and people you love all disappear right cloud. Yeah give right yes sir. I'll continue my watch sir. I like it when it calls me sir. Everyone in this is such a good character. And i have big knowing what you said. It's fifty shades of grey last night. You can't just and at this point. I think i got stuck. Because i was like. I can't get to the next point. I need to go to because his guards in the way and i was like. Oh it's everything's ruined. And chris had to be like everyone again so we end up going back around the entire ship talking to everyone just to discover that i needed to get to say. Have you seen barrett hope. He's not doing anything stupid. There's a safe point here so should be able to do something like you'd expect. Thanks so maybe. I can go up here so this part of the game is actually in real time. You have to stay on the ship for half an hour actually. Yeah oh boy. that'd be dumb. Oh i do at. This game is so bizarre and some of the mechanics literally want surprise me. That's fair you did give cpr for like ten strength though so awful. Yeah almost certification. I would like to go around. You can fuck in get over to whatever that arrow is but that's not happening and apparently today you haven't talked ruin the ship more than once you got no pip. Cements get move. I'm tired. I just got the perfect thing. Invisible alpha super drink of semen four cement just one theme in you rejuvenate only two hundred and fifty seamen. Hey see he's a stingy. Just wasn't me. Hey get to work promotion. What is your job. i have no idea. I would like to know the job to give me. Oh boy. I hope he's not doing anything stupid. That doesn't sound like oh boy. We haven't seen berry doesn't satellite. It's i'm sure shirts good You can't believe we buried together. How much pain are you under an old time and we go back up and go to the bow the chef and find out that that guard is moved so we can kind of see the What barrett's been up to and we find in adorable sailor suit with his face pressed up against the glass of the cockpit of the ship. The sorry cockpits not the right term. Give it to me the bridge. All right edge I'll take it. There's a glass that surrounds the bridge and has faced like kind of pressed up against its spying on heidegger and rufus. Having a conversation all my god. Who's that handsome gentlemen. Is that in a fucking sailor. Sue look cloud it's rufus and high degree. They're this close but we can't do a thing to them can go off laughing like that because of him biggs wedge jesse anymore. I'm going to settle things here now. Shit reports of a stowaway found those not on detail. Search the ship report one found damned and they find us. I don't think it's us today. Find teeth and the others. Got your spiky button. Let's go cloud spiky but barracks chatting with you and an alarm goes off. And it's like they're still aways and barrett's like shit. They found us wait. No they didn't find us. They find the others. And you kind of just run out into the center of the deck of the ship to reunite with all of your party members and you see i run run up including rep thirteen on all fours now that still wearing the guard uniform which i find whole areas. I don't know if i like his outfit or barrett's more hard toseh- also good. They're both really good but yeah we find out that no one on the ship is looking for us. Which means that. The stowaway must be so rolf. Toon boom yeah yeah so We at this point can choose a party. The next of many instances. We've had of our shit. I wanna having the party. I think we ended up settling for this round on barron era as our backup for cloud you spend a little time re-equipping material in Just making sure all their stuff finding out that. I did not buy the right things that i thought i did. And i'm also low on sale now and not even on the same continent as the stuff. I wanted to buy tech only ever have three and my party. Town doesn't hard barron era some level of time because they're both lower. The peacemaker was the gun. I had is that not for him faulk. I'll have a better weapon for then some batch shit. I wish i could compare this to the peacemaker. I just picked up. I guess i can't right. no. I can't because i hope i the items this is the thing. Yeah the funding about two cannonballs. It's he's gonna have hill lure all let me get arthur. Did i not by the fucking myth chief gloves off to a good start. Prime selleck set. This is fine. I'm going to grab a drink before. Finishing this idea to think about what i've done So we got our party amped up and ready to go and we run downstairs. Kinda see some carnage along the way just like some bodies like people who are like dead or dying. We run into the area that was previously off limits from a guard. Guard is now dead on the floor and we run into the ship told that looks like and we see a guard with his back. Turned to us and I don't remember who says. I think it's like clutter but one of them says like seth question mark and then the garlic stumbles and falls dead and someone else's like definitely not suffer off than sever nope not suffer up after a long sleep. The time has come look cloud. Oh shit is off set for us your life. Who are you. you don't remember me. i'm cloud cloud seth. What are you thinking. What are you doing. The time is now what what are you saying. Didn't like of that. Also what the fuck is that thing. If you mouse over you can see its name. Genova birth fucking suffer up rises up from the floor straight up. I was honestly not expecting it to be off at this point i was like asking side effecting but now for just rises up out of the four like a little spooky scary skeletons ghosts man and talks to you a little bit. He's like like there's a little signs. Like jesus what's up. Don't look at you and says who are you. Think the cloud and cloud like don't you remember me. I'm cloud and like cloud like who okay share beasley suffer. Could fucking care less and ends up flying at you and kind of passes through you or into you as it was weird and then flies towards the camera like offscreen. And then you're in a boss fight and you just have a horror in front of you. I'd like to take a hard stop here. Just to kind of go over this very strange encounter with suffer off so the fuck it's weird. It didn't strike me as suffer off. Ask because he was like he didn't have the same like personality symbolic more like spectral in go st like rising up from the floor and like flying around and shit like this little weird. I wasn't expecting that and it just. It just didn't seem like i dunno. It's something felt off about it. Like i don't know if that like if that's just because that's who. He is now five years after the naval incident. But just like you don't really know what's happened to them or what he's done in the past five years but it was a weird encounter is very very weird and like no i. He would just throw an arm at you in the mail and then fly away than fly out like angels in the outfield. That was my my. My thoughts is weird that he was grossly spectral and this his dialogue seemed weird. I don't know how to feel about it yet. I'll get their feelings. I'm sure this boss fight though. Let's talk about that. That monster was weird. So this was Genova birth was named this monster and it was. Just twisted flush mass. It was kind of like a central stock. I'd say it's probably like three or four times the size of cloud height wise with like kind of protruding face on it. It looked bigly lake genova but not a lot and they had like kind of like appendages. That weren't really arms there. Were kinda technically this. Obviously grotesque and like human humanity gone very wrong click obviously twisted by like overexposure to make our something this fight. The monster uses a mostly like these laser attacks and then he uses a cool ability called. Stop which prevented them from being able to execute their next move or to jehovah birth aggressively use that against earth which is super cool. When you have a healer Really really could have used more heels. At one point. I had to resort to using barrett to heal himself just picture. I got clode. Awful thing is terrifying taylor. You know how your mom has to tell. Where's mother joined. Describe what you're seeing right now. I can't it's a humanoid face onto a blob. It looks like when. Tatsuo goes nuts at the end of akira. All right yeah yeah. Call back to cure flush. Being w laser lasers seems pretty strong lasers o. lasers hit me with show. Why don't you hit me with your big show away choir. Actually you're you're all very fucked was stop that oh those are really quite a mation. But what the fuck decio genova after birth level twenty five. Hp to go the fight. I think overall one pretty well Claude did get down to fifteen twenty five twenty five health at one point but luckily managed to get its limit break off at the last second him up and he'll the the party up and finished pretty strong. I i also did get to use the first non choke omagh summon Which was Sheva diamond dust fucking cool and Yet battle ends out. Just like a little chunk of the genova after birth wiggling on the ship. Sex genova birth. Yup i said what you said. Genova genova oh is it like exotic we have to collect all the pieces. You've been walking around with that thing. So will you kinda ended up doing at that. Point is getting an alarm that you're approaching costa del sol and time for all the decades to make their way to the front of the costa. Del sol. you're able to exit the ship and upon exiting. You see just like a kind of tropical coast dam. Sure is hot here. But i feel better now. You can say goodbye to this sailor suit. How do i hack the game. has to sailors the rest of the game short. A listen up. Y'all be sure to mingle like regular folks here too bad. I liked barrett's sailor su. He looks so cute. What do you mean you. Then what are you. Use that sailor suit for pajamas. Right cloud air where you marshmallow statement the hell that smoke to me and this happens to be the most comfortable so shut up and we get to see Rufus and heidegger have a really great exchange roof is basically just is like heidegger suffer out on that ship. And he's like yup and cloud novice friends yup yup yup and refuses like. It's not all you can do is just like give apologies in walmart answers. Excuses like what the fuck is wrong with you do better and rufus kind of storms off into his helicopter and he's just like what the fuck have you go runs around the do the port pushing and shoving. Anyone can get his hands on people. Run away from him. it's very funny We kind of just decide to start exploring costa del sol and i think this is probably the most disappointing town. I've been to to this point. Yeah yeah he's not feeling it man. Feel that vibe not feeling that beep surf life attitude here. you are. Because they'll slow. Taurus information god. What do you want to know. I like how you can tell. This is not going to be on the wait a minute. I'm going to look at my guidebook. It's has 'cause they'll soul is the gateway to the west and is a prominent world renowned resort. Just been around for ages. Come on on care about that. If you wanna get time go to the beach there. Lots of beautiful women. You wouldn't happen to be dot dot dot rich. You're kidding you can't tell by looking fuck you. But i'll tell you just in case after relaxing at costa del sol. Stop by the gold saucer. It's a rich and exciting place to play that we were done with wall market. We run down to the beach where we are confronted with probably the weirdest seen than the game so far ho-jo surrounded by women in bikinis sunbathing quote unquote while wearing a full suit and lab coat. Yeah there's a moment we glossed over somebody said Heidegger was feeling stressed. Because ho-jo has disappeared all right where he gave his resignation gave us. You left the resignation then like bailed. Apparently he was going on vacation. Yup costa del sol. Why is joe here. Hey who do you think you are professor joe. That's scary man. Says he wants to talk with you. I'm busy right now. I will always remember the ho-jo voice but too bad. no. I remember you all now. Yes yes i remember now. It's been a long time. Cloud really been that walking two days. Sometimes you just got to do something like this. What are you doing. It should be obvious. I'm getting a tan suit though. Answer me mab lever. Both after the same goal mean suffer off. Did you see him. This stands up on his fucking beach chair wearing a full lab coat. What is nothing. I just remembered a hypothesis. Haven't you ever had this feeling that something is calling you or visit some blades. I'll go anywhere that steph. Roth set to beat him in. Put an end to all this. I see this could be interesting. Were you insult jerry. Would you like to be my guinea pig. The first question we both had in you with your experience playing this game is why the fuck did. No one tried to kill him immediately. Literally the last time we saw him he had era in a cage and was going to breed her the faulk he should be dead Khoja calls her the ancient like the ancient right. And she's like my. Name's eric from like. The least you can do is respect me and give me person attack you at all yet. Ho-jo talks a little about what. I was so distracted by the conversation. I didn't sink in. There's a lot happening here. But he does have a very interesting exchange with cloud and he kind of asks cloud for some reason like. Do you ever get the feeling that you're being drawn right like you're being told to go somewhere. My thought was the ads videogame. Doc do you remember what cloud said. No i don't do he said Basically i'm hunting sapphire oth- wherever he goes. I'm him to put a stop to this. Era also asks him a couple things like the ancients genova suffer off. Do we all have the same blood. Oh yeah and he asked about her mother and she's like oh you didn't know she died. Who's like could give a shit. Yeah right like no no no not. he's no good not a big fan. Jojo bad yeah khodro. Bad bad not good So for some reason we let joe live and not only lip go back to sunning himself. He starts mumbling. Yeah we kind of get our direction to go. West past mount quarrel So we we kind of have emerging order so we'll be heading there pretty soon but before we do. We decide to finish looking around Bill thirteen napping in the shade. Oh god can you imagine how bad Read their team across the just wet dog. That's interesting. It's not as if i'm doing this because i want to see this. Tell of my moves quite independently of mobile this wagging his tail and happy and sunbathing america than just moves. Gentry will this the young bubby class. Oh yeah mckie's liam the mookie like this town you can walk around here naked and no one look twice the while. We're just gonna stay here. Yeah this is where we live now. Really hot much of interest happened except heart. Stop except for my heart being ripped for my chest and stamped out in front of me when i find tika laughing hysterically at the joke's of one johnny barbell soul. What the fuck a right. I remember that to what the hell's going on here cloud. Would you mind leaving us alone for the day. We haven't seen each other for agents and sometimes is fun to talk about old times for a change. The puck is this joe jr tokai. Don't get better. i'm already mad. I'll try not to be too late. Please don't worry about us. worry. I don't like that i don't care for this development. I'm just livid right now. Sorry i will kill jonny. I hope you know that. If i need to i will kill jonny i walk in to the in and johnny and tica are just laughing together and teeth says cloud. Would you mind just leaving us alone. The rest of the day johnny and eye catching up just fucking yuck ended up. Just having a giggle and also. There's a woman in the shower just puck. Was that place at that bar on the outside but inside those no bar no other people. There's a woman. Showering and then like two beds with john talking a lot of questions a lot of questions really really don't like this when you find them just having a ball says sometimes it's good to kinda reminisce. Yeah more to johnny. I just need to know more about john all jonathan. Who is this john character. Jonathan and i think at that point we really decided to save it and pack it in probably not the most thrilling episode of first encounter. But i i really enjoyed. They think the genova trunk. That is probably the most major thing to happen in the game. There's also some pretty big revelations in terms of like oh like we're going to start running sapphire off now and this is going to be a problem and also like how many times is he gonna drop chunks of gino van. We're going to have to fight like a monster that grows out of whatever piece of genova throws at us. Yeah anything left to. Would you like to plug anything handy. I'd like to our twitter account. I encounter i with a one. S t encounter. Is that our twitter at one. S t one s t center. Yeah hit us up. That's me running. That i'm not doing too much with it but i'd love to hear from you. Thanks so much for listening to this episode of first encounter. And we'll see you next time. Thank you so much for listening to the first encounter podcast. You enjoyed the episode. Please go an apple. They make a huge difference and we would really appreciate it. Additionally you can find all of our past episodes and how to connect with us on first encounter podcast dot com. Please come say hi next time on first encounter. We'll be picking up right after we get asked politely yet firmly to leave the golden saucer. We'll see you then.

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#C126 (cephalopod to -cercal)

The Dictionary

13:23 min | 3 weeks ago

#C126 (cephalopod to -cercal)

"Hello words welcome to the dictionary singing songs song sung theme song theme song. So we're at the top of page two. Oh two The first word is cephalopod. C. e. p. h. a. l. o. p. o. d. this is a noun from eighteen. Twenty six any of a class of marine mollusks molluscs including the squids cuddle fishes and octopuses that move by expelling water from a tubular siphon under the head and that have a group of muscular usually sucker bearing arms around the front of the head highly-developed is and usually a sack containing inc which is expected for defense or concealment and cephalopod is also an adjective. This is from the prefix sappho. Plus the greek word pod or posts which means foot obviously sofala means head and there's more at the word foot so it's head and foot. Their feet are connected to the head and that's pretty much all they are And then the class name by the way is cephalopoda. These animals are amazing and smart and a lot of them have camouflage abilities which are in crazy and unique. And yet if you don't know much about these go watch some youtube videos about cephalopods. Next is seth laura dean or cephlon suffer laura dean noun from nineteen sixty four. A semi synthetic broad spectrum antibiotic eighteen h seventeen n three. Oh four s to derived from cephalosporin That is our next word. Cephalosporin noun from nineteen fifty one any of several produced by an imperfect imperfect produced an imperfect fungus The genus name is acrimonious and then the The the scientific name something Cephalosporin them It's kind of a kind of a fungus that maybe that's where the spore comes from cephalosporin. I'm curious to why the head part is in here. The cephalopods settle. Why is there the head connected to this. I don't know. I shall never know moving on to cephlon. Thin noun from nineteen sixty to a semi synthetic broad spectrum antibiotic derived from cephalosporin and used in the form of its sodium salt c sixteen h fifteen n two n a owed six s to so they use the cephalosporin to make these other things so part of it is a natural substance and then part of it is said synthetic that's why it is semi synthetic Okay next is cephlon thorax noun from eighteen. Thirty five the united head and thorax of an iraq mid or higher crustacean the cephlon thorax. So would that be that. So the head and the thorax together called the cephlon thorax seems kind of odd to come up with their own thing. I dunno okay next. We have a I guess you could also say cepheids. But i'm gonna say. Cpa capital c. e. p. h. e. i. d. noun from circa nineteen zero three any of a class of variable stars. Who's who's very regular light. Variations are related directly to their intrinsic luminosity and whose apparent luminosity are used to estimate distances in astronomy This is from cvs which is next. So that's where they get their name. See feed cfius capital c. e. p. h. e. u. s. c. theus cfius noun from fifteen sixty three a constellation between cygnus and the north pole. The north pole house their constellation between cygnus and the north pole. Is it the north pole of the sky. How is that. I don't understand that but it's a constellation in the sky you can go look it up. O k next is ceramic one. No i form Adjective from eighteen fifty of to the manufacturer of any product made essentially from a non metallic mineral by firing at a high temperature. Also of or relating to such a product so manufacturer of any material as earthenware porcelain or brick. Those are all considered ceramic and then the non metallic mineral an example would be clay clay. this is from the greek kerameikos from komo's which means potter's clay or pottery. I've made some ceramics. When i was younger lad and that sounds like a song. I've made some ceramics when i was a younger lad. They were all very terrible Okay next is the second form of ceramic noun from eighteen fifty nine one the art or process of making articles that would be plural ceramics to a product of ceramic manufacturer next is serum head sara med serum mid or no made sorry noun from nineteen fifty-eight any of various lipids formed by linking a fatty acid to vinegar scene and found widely but in small amounts in plant and animal tissue. Sarah made this is from sarah bro. Side plus m. i'd and why is my throat all fleming. Maybe it's the hot chocolate that i had shouldn't have had that next. We have ceramicist or serra missed or ceramicist noun from eighteen fifty five one who makes ceramic products or works of art works of art ceramicist or ceramicist. Or sarum est. I think i would like to say ceramicist for some reason next. We have sirott c. r. a. t. noun from the fifteenth century and unctuous peration for external use consisting of wax or resin or sperm acidity mixed with oil lard and medicinal ingredients. Wise it unconscious Extra us considering it so it's got all that stuff doesn't really say what they use it for. It is separate and what is this word. Spare m- spur masatoshi. Spur mossy Okay so this is from the latin khartoum which means wax salve from cara which means wax and there's more at the word serum in which i believe was. Oh that must become an up because we haven't gotten there yet. Okay next is sarah topsy in sierra topsy. An noun from nineteen o nine any of a sub order sara atop of or aficion dinosaurs of the late cretaceous having horns a sharp horny beak and a bony frill projecting backward from the skull. We should find a picture of one of these sarah in Sarah thompson also an adjective. This is from the greek carrot. Top's latin carrot tops Which is the genus from the greek chaos which means horn plus ops which means face so horn on the face. And there's more at the words horn or i or an addition. I think does that mean that. They're bird bird. Dinosaurs i mean kind of birds are dinosaurs. They've been pretty much proven that but yeah. i think ornithology dinosaurs maybe. Some dinosaurs aren't considered birds. I don't know but Yeah birds dinosaurs where we're living with small flying dinosaurs these days. All right next is cerberus capital c. e. r. b. e. r. Us cerberus noun from the fourteenth century. A three headed dog that in greek mythology guards the entrance to haiti's and serb sir burien serbian Is an adjective. I believe wasn't there a a. Wasn't there one of these in harry potter. In one of the first couple of books. I think I feel like. I'm remembering that correctly although i could totally be wrong All right so we have one more word for this episode. It is a suffix c. e. r. c. a. l. I believe it would be pronounced circle or circle so this it just means tailed so if you see circle at the end of a word it means tailed And we have an example. Homo circle homo circle. How do you say this word. Hama surrou- hamas raquel. I don't know And and homo means same in this. I think it means same or similar. Something like that If i'm remembering that correctly so what would that mean same tailed. I don't know. I have no idea what that word is. But our real word is cal So today we had a cephalopod cephlon laura dean cephalosporin sofala thin cephlon authority ex seafood cfius ceramic. Sarah made sarah missed saturate ceratopsian service and sir cal Well i will post a picture of cephalopod. But i also think i'm gonna make cephalopod is the word of the episode because those creatures are crazy. Cephalopods are crazy pods or crazy. Go look up some cephalopods. Because they're crazy. Those were all the words for today. I'm going to say some holidays. So what am gonna do. When i get to the end of the if i've once i've said all the holidays for a whole year which i think i started this probably in january february. Remember what do i do after that for the next year. Do i keep on saying the holidays. Do i give you do. I give people who were born on that day. You know there are some so we'll we'll figure that out. When i get there. So april fifteenth is national high. Five day You know maybe maybe still when we're in a pandemic and not everybody's vaccinated. Don't give people high fives but you can give yourself a high five. You can high five people you live with or who are in your bubble That would be fine. Just just do that It is also jackie robinson day so go celebrate that. I wonder why it's today's his birthday. Maybe taxes are due today if you owe taxes you gotta get your taxes in here in america go do that. It is yom haatzmaut out. I think that's an israel just jewish holiday. It is the third day of ramadan. It is the efl awards in the united kingdom About see what else. It is in belgium birthday of king philip in belgium and netherlands. It is day of secretaries in india. It is misogyny it is in peru. National poet day In latin america. it's tax day. They call it. Dea day impressed us What else what else is it. Day of the sun in north korea. It is father damien day in hawaii. It is hillsborough disaster memorial in liverpool england. Who it's national american sign language day in the us. My sister is a sign language interpreter. And this is a very good thing to learn so you can communicate with more people. It is one boston day in the. Us in the bengali new year. It is universal day of culture. Oh and it's also world art day so it's just be be do art today and then one last fun holiday. It is national laundry day. So maybe this is a one day of the year where you do your laundry a full year. I'd have to buy all new clothes. Okay well that was That was an episode. Thank you very much for listening. And until next time this is spencer dispensing information goodbye.

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Amber Benson

Sci-Fi Talk Scribes

29:06 min | 1 year ago

Amber Benson

"That man this is Ethan Phillips from Star Trek Voyager Mark Pellegrino Jacob from law than Lucifer on supernatural. Hey this is Katie SACRA. I'm Michael Cerberus. The Observer from fringe and Jebediah Loeven from stake land and you're listening to sci-fi talk this is sci-fi talking. I'm Tony Tomato today. A conversation with Amber Benson. As one of the buffy alumni she certainly has been expanding her reach writing and actually getting into producing and also directing. Let's catch up with one. Buffy alumni in Amber Benson. I guess what you've been doing a lot lately is besides being very busy. Is doing a lot of writing these? I do a lot of writing these days. I feel like I don't know like half my have. My Life is sitting in front of computer it. Oh Yeah Yeah. It's amazing but But you know there's some really cool stuff and it seems like you gravitate towards the fantasy and and some of the horror elements to Kinda like writing that type of style okay. There's something about being able to write about stuff that doesn't exist free knowing you know an amber visit actually how You know that does business and this is actually how vampires go about taking from people. I love it. There's like there's sort of like a no no censorship. Nobody can tell you're doing it wrong. And that's the best part about. It is a lot of freedom. Sure we'll talk about some of those that you're writing there's a series collide the reader Jones. And that's like more of an urban fantasy you can tell our listeners. A little bit about Yeah it's it's a series of books that I wrote Brace Rock which is nice. It's it's definitely more in the urban fantasy sh- Vaccine it's about a girl named clive reaper. Jones whose data that Jeff Insurance Corporation or does the presidency. Oh when he gets kidnapped and there's no one to run death. She has to run the company and his said and she want nothing to do with business. The normal girls. She does not want into the family. The family Job She on free in your own person and so she's sort of forced into the other kind of supernatural world did Five bucks not areas. The first one's called debts daughter and it was a lot of fun. I definitely kind of got birds out with the first person narrative though should I I like being in her head I was just like I need to write a third person. I get out of her head. I feel like I'm turning into her. So Yeah I did that and then because I didn't write any anymore in that series right now I wanted to take a break actually pitched my editor who was Singer will she loves ginger. Buchanan she retires Right Booking you as an editor Jessica way but but ginger eilly pitched her new series with which it and we actually had a really fire quasi drunken lunch in New York Bush in V all ideas. About what what exactly that would entail. Or which is series and is going to be there which is echo park which is an echo park and that is coming out on January twenty fifteen but we're actually giving away copies of your comical and they're having some preview are that's GonNa to be. Yeah I'm getting ready for that myself. I'm to be kinda going crazy at New York comic con for sure. Not as crazy as San Diego mastery sure but New York is still kind of finding. Its way a little bit. I think it it just I mean. The crowds are amazing. Yes I WANNA see the years ago and I was overwhelmed. This is not is is an you because I can't you know you can't walk around without like basically running into to like source and and bare breasts on those bare breasts and like we were caught in your faith wherever you go. You can't escape absolutely nuts. The way it is. Actually I think last year they even they. They broke their records for attendance and the floor was really brutal You know after certain titus could do it but that's a good thing which means it's GonNa be around for Awhile Island and for you. That means you'll you'll get a lot of people talk to you and you be able to talk to her about your books. That'll be a good thing. Yes I mean. I'm excited the spread. The word I'm really proud of book and it'll be nice to get it out there and she gets his reaction to it and I'm really excited about. I haven't I haven't done that yet so now we is interesting because it's it's essentially. There's there's I guess like a matriarch of his family and She's trying to turn it over to Think her daughter or her niece. I'm not sure from what I read. And and she's kind of reluctant about Kinda taking over the family business or I do do have an issue that I'm working funny either. There's no family business going to this for me. Let's she didn't really know about what her great aunt or so so she kind of got you know sort of through into it. But she's willing to just sort of take over. She's she's different than collided because she's not fighting at she sort of rules with onions and open opens. Sort of being a part of this coven nickel carb the her great her great answers because she thinks Chagrin in the the sort of covid master for and there is a bit of a but I think very much the sort of Hero's journey that all that call to arms. And then you know or call to sort of like you know a question then turning back and going on. I don't want any to admit serving four Jewish. I find interesting. I'm always I'm always curious. Adult into into that sort of sort of world and play with it the the journey. You don't see a lot of female characters that go on that sort of questions usually male characters but there's becoming more and more that way what you're seeing more female protagonist. Juku going journey. What's cool to sure? This is part of the fun part of writing it is. She's kind of coming into established. Coven everybody has their own place. And I'm sure everybody's looking at like well you know who are you. What are you doing here kind of things so I think that in you know what was interesting to me is. I wanted to write about women's relationships with each other outside like the male dynamic so often books or films or stories about About a male Karen Halloween deal with the male character and I was like characters are less important to me and it's definitely have their place but this was more about like. How did these women deal with each other? How do they support each other? How do they how do they get on? What is there? What is their dynamic and So I I find that. That got very intriguing to me and I have a lot of female friends. I just sort of like a mash tonight. I wanted to talk about our our friendship and how important they are to me. Yeah yeah well which is popular as a TV show about them. Of course you played one on television yourself so so yeah I think I think it's a cool thing You know it's a. It's a totally different worlds into your arm. Buffy and nowadays e books and you know I'm guilty myself my wife and I both kind of read them that way because it's easy to travel so I I'm sure I guess all your stuff is going to be available. If it's not already available that way as well as at writer it is you. Can you can find all the deaths daughter quiet period for Jones stuff They're all evokes and I and three of them audiobooks. And then we're going to do the same thing with the witches theories though. Be a trade paperback and then they'll be bucks and I think an audiobook as well. So that's kind of exciting now. Do you read your own books for the Audio Book. I had I really enjoy doing it. It's so much fun I get to do all the voices and be the different characters and then you also get to go. Oh wow that's an terrible thinking going and reedit stuff not not not much but in visas here and there it's a different world and I hear you're GonNa be going back to the world of Fan Pires to in Morgan. Ville for pecan. Sundry THAT'S A. That's a fun bunch of folks to work with them sure. Yeah they've been so lovely. So far I love I love Felicia. I think you with smart so so like such a business acumen. You know Her ability to sort of cornered the marketplace before they're even with marketplace. It's just really. It was really impressive to watch. I I just I love doing. It was so much fun to Talk Rachel. Caine on her series. You know Morgan. Bill has all these great great books that were sort of drawing from the web series to be able to sort of play a vampire. You know not bad guy. The tough guy was really funny. Yeah that's that's GonNa be fun and you know a medium that is really you know. The web series is You Know I. It hasn't exploded yet but it's slowly but surely getting steam. I think the problem is many out there. Turn Geek and sundry has kind of con- ahead of the pack. They've kind of established their brand very nicely so I'm sure a lot of eyes will see Organ for sure yeah. I'm excited I think it looks really really good. I haven't seen I haven't seen the completed piece yet. And what's amazing is the production values on on these things especially their shows are like top notch. So it's like you're watching television or film. It's just it looks really good and I mean she certainly knows her way around the said and and doing that kind of thing and then recall. You've directed so encode directed a film so is would you step behind the camera for any episode? You think that would be really fun But we've got an mate like Blake. Shelton who directed is producing the Morton village so talented that I think you know he does great work. I I give over completely to him. I don't know if I could if I could do it as well he does. He's just so smart with with doing so much for so little money. Course with action in blood all Gore and the good stuff to have that gotta have that. That's for sure. So directing. Is that something you co-directed the movie drowns? Those if you years ago is that something you eventually WanNa do again or or just kinda taste of instead. Maybe that's not for me kind of thing. No I love directing directing. I've made a couple of little features. I could erected drones and that it really well and it was on showtime Netflix. For Awhile and stuff I just I love it. It's taking all the things that I enjoy. You know the being able to sort of like. Hey what's in your head and put it out on screen. Which is what I do with the book but not quite distain. Fat like that heightened level and that's just you know it's not just words it's people in movement picture. Oh yeah but I yeah. I Love Boston people around. So it's perfect for me. Well this what's really fascinating is really this whole secondary market now Netflix. Is You know becoming what what we call now. Content providers or because it's not a channel per se. But they're going to they have their own series already and and they've gotten a claim and doing even more as somebody who makes things and produces stings. Why does that feel to you? Have all these other outlets where you don't have to go to a studio anymore You can you can go to somebody like Netflix. And pitch an idea. And 'cause you're Kinda hungry for content right now the they're hungry for content not content from Joe Blow in Iowa. They're much more. In fact I think in some ways there that they have to be more selective even than what is pitched to more mainstream outlet because they are trying to make an infant himself. So they're going to the court. The Creme de la Creme of of talent and going okay. Here's the outlet. We'll we'll give you autonomy to do what you want so you people David fincher were working with Netflix's they don't come to Pena sadly they're not interested in people like me. I'm small fish. I can't I can't help them in that way. I wish I wish it were different. I wish having all these outlets meant that that you know the little guy had more of a leg up but sadly I think we we live in a time when everybody is trying to sort of separate themselves out and go look at me. Look at me and and the way to do that. I think a lot of people feel you get thanks for your buck by having Amos and named named people involved and no. I totally hear you I true. It's a good and bad thing at the same time. Unfortunately but that's the way it goes you know. It's until there's a change. But Petro Makes Youtube such a great platform. Because you can you know you can That kind of equalizing the playing field a little petr. Although it's you know it's also hard to get noticed on there but like Geek and sundry and people like that who kind of establish themselves early now have a leg up on stuff like that eighteen. They have a platform that people go to. You know that are starting now. It's an uphill battle because there's already a saturation stuff. Oh you on. Tv Too many cable channels are there. I don't own a television so I don't know but but from from what I go to my friend's house within a hotel I'm like. Oh my gosh like three thousand. Tv jails. Don't actually. That's another thing that I might. Viewing habits have changed. Because I'm a little older than you and I come from a time where he had to tune in on a certain day at a certain time to watch something or you have to catch reruns and if you if you missed it tough luck so you know what you know what everybody was talking about. And we had via via. Vcr's tape it but those tapes ticket a lot of room and all that so is this whole right now. I'm dvr kind of guy. I have to admit you know it's just easier to see things when you know my wife and I aren't home at the same time so to watch it together. We do it by. Dvr And watch last night's programming tonight so it's the Waco's it's the way everybody. Yeah I think so. It's just future like this binge-watching everything weighing Bam. Thank you Ma'am all now and in our people people don't want to wait anymore. It's immediate gratification. Where four you know because you and I when we grew up right there there was no you wanted to tape. I mean I remember. When Feta's you know Vado Money Jeez you know and that was like the freezing new things and and you know if you wanted to see something you'd better you'd better be better have your button in front of the TV when it comes on who I know that's it was crazy. It was crazy time. And now it's even crazier and a lot of ways. You know you gotTa Credit Josh Sweden. But you know. Tara and her character was really very much and her relationship with willow was very groundbreaking for the time. I mean it really. I mean you can see. There's how times have changed. And their openly gay characters on television shows right now two different mindset right now and that's on television anyway. I think around the country. We're still working on it but war but what's feel like to kind of been had something at the beginning like that. We know we were really really lucky to be able to sort of be the first lesbian long-term relationship on network television and it opened so many doors and it gave a gave people out in middle America. Who wouldn't who hadn't I guess up until then had any kind of role model out there except maybe Allen without one kiss but there really wasn't anything else gave them like the feeling that it's okay to be who they are meant if you fall in love with somebody you're just lucky even if they happen to be the same gender or totally different gender or whatever it is you're just lucky you know and there's nothing wrong with with same sex relationships that it is totally normal and natural and there are a lot of people out there who don't have that they live in societies where it's frowned on religion dictates that it's you know evil or when when. Joss created that relationship. You really changed the length of a little bit. Yeah I really do believe and I've I've talked to a few other people on in during the course of interviews That I really believe this is like the last civil rights like area. You know it's like you know it's like this is once we cleared this hurdle we would have come. We will come a long way. You know if we can do that that'd be that'd be awesome because it's just there's no reason why not frankly. I can't think I race. I agree with you it. It seems rather ridiculous that was she thousand fourteen and things haven't changed yet but they are changing. Just they slow slow process. I I was listening to NPR in the car today. And they're talking about you. Know the the the percentage of lgbtq characters on Network TV is right is risen. But it's still like four or five percent low. There's very little. We're still not at a point where minorities essentially anyone is. Well where the country is well represented and I just heard a statistic. I actually put it on an article. I read blocked it on. My blog was from what twenty twelve to twenty two year? They're only twenty two percent of the Of the characters were women in these films. Twenty two guests. That's horrible. Where more than half the population of this country? Yeah that's that's criminal. I mean that really is it's wrong. It's totally wrong. Another thing that Buffy buffy proved at a woman could carry issue and totally. I mean she. She was tough but he was a real character. People across the board turn tuned into watch. The show wasn't just women Menchu Young and old I remember. Who's doing I was was doing. Charity Event and They had a signing some stuff in. Were SITTING THERE. And it was knee and the guys from the trio. Yes boys and this woman with a shoulder came up and she's with you know the baby and the solar and a little a little girl with their she. She came over to me and she's like we use sign. Nash and I was like Oh and she's not gonna no it's more it's more my father. His name is David whatever and then she turns to the little girl she goes. This is the girl from GRANDPA's favorite show. I that is the greatest thing ever GRANDPA's fears you vampires there. It's a great show. It's on somewhere you know I think I can. I think I watched it on Netflix. Once in a while so it's It's great to have it there and you know you. You always wonder you kinda play. Monday morning quarterback she. What would happen if buffy was on during a time where there was twitter and social media? How does that change in It might still be on the air. You never know but But yeah for you can't. It's it was a show of its time and It certainly changed. I think in a lot of ways away television shows were written and how dialogue was written so it certainly Pave the way and has a special place I think for me and Just to let you know dwell too much on it but my wife is was talking about buffy to her niece so she's she's lent her the DVD's and now she's hooked. It's like a drug. I think I'm crazy but I'm like you can't just watch one. You have to watch the whole season about the the first one and then you go on and watch all the rest of it finish that up and then you move to angel and you watch all of that firefly. I mean it's just it doesn't end the man. The man is created an empire. And Yeah Well Tell You you've done you know it's the cool thing about what you're doing is sounds like you're exploring you know all the creative areas and interest you. That were there. It's writing acting and even in films somewhere co directing or you've had a chance to kind of do a lot of different things and Is there anyone that you'd like more or is it just cool to be able to play all those different you know? It's really great to be able to plan all the different sandbox but think my favorite thing is probably directing. Because you know it's when you get to write something then you directed and then you get to like cut it and and you know it's just it's just taking all the things I enjoy putting them together dealing with actors you know dealing with your crew and the way where the camera goes and how it looks style on a really really interesting to me. Yeah yeah that's great. I mean there is some magic in the editing room when everything comes together on you know. Woodley finished product. And you know there it is you know it's It's it there is some magic to it and I still think that's one of the hardest things to do on. The planet is to make a film that is good. I think is really hard thing to do. Because you know you really don't get the feedback until after it's out so it's really hard to gauge it. It is you. Don't you know it's sort of like? I think anything in the entertainment. Intrusively gambling is. You know you put everything into it and you're like okay. Well put it out there and either going to be big buck. No way me or it's GonNa be I am I mean. How many things do you hear on paper sound really good? It's like hey cash person for this and that and then when you see it you can't watch five minutes of it. It's like what happened. Just don't know it's it's true and I think a big problem. We have is with too many cooks in the kitchen. Especially you know in network world because you have so much money wrapped up in these. Tv shows movies. That fifty people going justify my job to make sure that that makes money. Because if I don't were screwed you know so you have all these people sort of dictating. What gets what made and making creative choices when not feed if people per se. They're more business be they have. Nba from Harvard. Usually like okay. Well that's great and you should be greeted getting you know getting the business into things going but if you WanNa talk about character development you better also have a degree in creative writing I mean. Can you tell the story? Do you know how what what a carry back? What motivates a character. How To make the character real? Those are issues that are you know essentially can make or break any movie or TV shows. So the that's I think that's the bad thing about it is the business people are saying. You know that the creative people do their jobs and they make a good product and then because somebody has to have their hand in it too just as you said to justify say well how about if we change this or that and it went out realizing it could be hurting the show. That's already find tinkering. Hopefully well mean buffy. They were really lucky if they came in this kind of like a mid season replacement. Another is really paying attention. Like I don't know what the thing about fan fire what you know. And so kind of with lesser tone devices and and he. He was allowed to sort of create what he wanted. And I think that's why the show was as good as it was. There wasn't a lot of fighting from from other places people that weren't the network executives see. Oh people that we're interested in. It was more they were. They liked it and they wanted it to be good less than like trying to justify money or or you know it was interesting I it got. It got a really good deal on in that regard. Unfortunately he wasn't as lucky but firefly when they mixed up the order of the episodes and meet did not help things at all. You know it's like when you see it in. The order was meant to be it goes. It just makes more sense. You know. It's it's again. It's very telling that one. Think the network really goofed on that You know they really did spend all that money. They wanted to air in the correct order. Well they felt they wanted to go more ratings so they wanted to go in that direction but but that doesn't you know really hurt the story and and the rest is history unfortunately but yeah well so what besides the books that you know. Morgan Ville do you have anything else? You have coming you know. I just directed a short film. Yeah and I'm working on the and then See what else is going on. But you got another. This is a new series of books. So I've got the second one that I'm working on right now to stick any of the year that sort of taking over my thinking over my life right now. That's a lot of were very very very occupied. Very busy right well. Busy is a good thing. That's what I always say so. It's not a bad well. It's been a pleasure to talk to you and get your insights on things online Tony. This is really lovely and the fact that you're so you're so fun to talk to your show aware of stuff and so bright. It's it's really nice. That's nice to hear that that's nice. Well Breaking Vancouver. I hate stupid questions I really do. And I'll be at tables week and I'll hear so many it's WWCO it is. It's just you know. Nobody works on interviewing anymore. It just seems like they. They just kind of throw questions out people and that they're told to ask and I could go on all right amber. Great to talk to you and watching everything you're doing. It sounds like some stuff coming our way here. You got okay all right really appreciate that special. Thanks to four. Pr For ranging. The interview visit her cool blog. Hambur Benson rothe this DOT BLOGS DOT COM. Give that your elegant is Hammer. Benson wrote this dot blog. Spot Dot Com really had offers some funny insights on life and our world to ambrose's and check out her novels the witches of Echo Park series the ghosts of Albion which are both Amazon until next time this is joanie to Lotto. Thanks so much for listening. Hey this Erickson. From four hundred eighty eight minutes and you're listening to Sifi Talk.

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[REPLAY] Jen Prosek  Branding an Asset Management Firm (Capital Allocators, EP.81)

Capital Allocators

56:27 min | 2 months ago

[REPLAY] Jen Prosek Branding an Asset Management Firm (Capital Allocators, EP.81)

"I'm ted psyches and this is capital allocators. This show is an open exploration of the people and process behind capital allocation through conversations with leaders. In the money game we learn how these holders of the keys to the kingdom allocate their time and their capital. You can keep up to date by visiting. Capitol allocators podcasts. Dot com by guest on. Today's show is jennifer prozac the founder and ceo of project partners a leading international public relations and financial communications consultancy with offices in new york london. Los angeles and connecticut prospect partners ranks among the top ten independent public relations firms in the us and among the top financial communications consultancies. The firm has been listed as an inc. Five thousand fastest growing company for nine years. Running jen is also a two-time author. Our conversation covers the foibles of professional marketing in asset management building a brand measuring a successful branding after managing the story of performance and describing the differences in hedge fund and private equity brand. We then turned to some of jen's fascinating observations learned from her experience including raising entrepreneurial. Children working with millennials and gen z staffers and implementing the principles of just ask behave with humanity and not thinking in black and white. I wanna thank peter. Boris from strongpoint wealth advisors for sponsoring this episode and our podcast guests dinner series. The series brings together guests of the show for evenings of fascinating conversation and connection peter's a gracious host and i'm happy to have his support and that of strong point for our dinners before we get going. I've created three different ways for you to stay updated on the podcast and blog. According to your preferences i you can sign up to receive a monthly email with a few great things. I've read and listen to over the month. Second for more prompt delivery you can subscribe to my blood and receive emails when each podcast episode and blog posts. Come out and last you can access the full library of transcripts by signing up for a premium subscription all three options are available on the homepage at capital allocators. Podcast dot com. Thanks for your support. Please enjoy my conversation with jen protests. Gen thanks so much for joining me. Thanks for having me. When i started this podcast. Every now and then someone would reach out and have a suggestion of a guest and a disproportionate number of them came from partner interesting. I hadn't heard of even though we knew each other. So why don't you start by saying what prozac is and then we'll circle back. Okay tell your whole story great. So pro sec is a financial communications firms so we work across the financial ecosystem with clients many of them asset managers but everyone in the ecosystem from fintech companies in retail banks all the way to institutional investors in hedge funds and everything in between the idea behind. The business was that we believed seventeen years ago that financial institutions would one day. Wake up and smell the marketing and that took a while but they actually have take me back to how you got to the point where you reforming this business. It's a very random story. So i was an english literature major knowing in college that no one hires an english literature major so i needed internships and i got lucky to completely happened. Upon an internship in public relations. And i realized that it was suited for me but i graduated in a recession and there were no jobs and public relations so entry level jobs so i took a job in a profession. That was not of my choosing. And i kind of waited around. I did some networking. And i ended up meeting a gentleman who is at ge capital running corporate communications and hating it and he told me that one day he was going to unplug and start a business. This was in connecticut. He said all these financial institutions are moving in greenwich and darren. Whatever and i think we set up shop in their backyard. We do something. I like the idea i liked him. I really had no interest in a startup. i really wanted to go work for a big company but we kept in touch and he eventually called me and said you wanna come to work and that was the beginning of this. I was employee number one and then was offered partnership and equity in this little tiny nothing firm way before anyone would offer that to a twentysomething so i ended up owning and running it firm at a very early age functionally. Did you know anything about what you were doing. Not much more than my internship and what i was learning from my new mentor and i would say three or four years into it. I knew i can't really run and build a firm especially in the financial space. Unless i really know what i'm doing so i actually went to columbia business school to get my mba in finance. Because i figured if i m b and finance people will take me seriously and communications and that actually did work would you do after the nba. Did you go back. So i thought very hard about not sticking with my business my little crappy our business and i actually did the rounds that goldman and d. l. j. at the time and i got job offers and banking and i actually accepted one but i woke up the next day after i accepted it. Nice that i could be really crappy banker or really amazing financial communicator. I'm going to stick with my business. So i kind of went against the tide. I mean almost all my classmates went into finance at columbia at the time and i went back to my silly little. Pr business and wanted to give it a go. But it wasn't called prospect partners. Then now what was the evolution her ration. It started as jacobs associates which was my partner. Dan jacobs became jacobson prozac when i became an equity partner and then it became cuba jacobson prozac because we partnered with firm in london called cubit. And then we rebranded pro suck when i bought my partner out and decided to start my own and office. What year was that. That was ten years ago. And what did the firm look like at the time was small. We'd probably twenty people at the time and today one hundred ninety people and offices in new york london l. a. boston madame. Sure i missing one. Okay so take me through the last ten years now perfect partners. It's your firm twenty people. What was the core business at the time. The original idea for the business is still the original like the mission for today so we thought even way back in the day when we were tiny that one day financial institutions would wake up and smell the marketing that most financial institutions especially on the institutional side were very much on the back foot in terms of reputation brand marketing etc. But that one day that would shift but that idea was a little before its time. So i would say in the last ten years especially in the last five. I call financial firms especially those in private equity hedge funds and asset management the emerging market of marketing. It's literally an emerging market so we focus on two types of clients either a large financial global institution like goldman which. I'm lucky enough to call a client or a privately held company on the private equity hedge fund management side and on the private side. That's the emerging market those are sort of financial institutions are just starting to market in a sophisticated manner for the first time and that is an emerging market so we are mining this emerging market while. We're also working on the mature market and luckily a lot of elite firms in our space never focused on what i would call the brand building side. They always focused on issues and crisis management. So we're one of the only firms that really does the brand building side. Take me through what you saw before the last ten years because these people have their emerging they weren't doing this in in terms of what is marketing. And how does it apply to these firms. That have never really done it before. I just looked at consumer companies. And what they've done their whole lives to acquire customers to manage their reputation to launch products to activate the sales channels. And i said oh my gosh they do all this marketing right and i never understood why financial institutions didn't apply what clever consumer companies did to build their businesses and there are a whole bunch of factors as to why and there are a lot of factors as to what sort of activated that emerging market. Right one is the financial crisis. I think the financial crisis woke companies up to the first time that wow reputation matters and influencers matter. The media matters like we have to manage all these communities not just beyond the back foot so a lot of things catalyzed that emerging market but originally the simple observation was just like why does this odd group of companies and financial services not operate the way these sophisticated marketers do and it never really made complete sense to me so i would say before the last ten years it was of slog. We were educating clients. As to why they need this. I would say currently i educate no on the phone calls. Come in and it's usually. Oh my gosh we need this and we need it fast. That sounds a little bit like crisis management. So what was the this you mentioned branding but what are you actually do. So maybe taking your head one of your clients. A private fund manager sure so we represent the largest publicly traded hedge fund in the world which is manned group very well known in europe not so well known in the united states looking to come here build its institutional investor base acquire other hedge funds etc and without a brand that is understood while regarded incredible. It's harder to do that. So our job was to build the understanding of man group in the us build their brand so that in a quicker and more efficient manner do their business right. So what does that require tactically. That's getting to know reporters in the space and telling your story and starting to show up in the media as an expert or a thought leader on certain topics that are germane to mangrove or being speaking at conferences or activating social media channels or sort of looking at all the channels that reach your potential client and activating those in a proactive. Way to build your brand. How difficult is it to get a consistent. Message the thing about the difference between advertising and public relations or earned media. Is that an advertising. You just create the advertisement you buy the space and boom there. It goes and that's pretty consistent because you buy it in place at the way it's done in our world were very much relying on the expertise of our client. We're bringing these spokesperson to the media or to the podcast or to the whatever to deliver that message. So it's a little bit tougher to be consistent because there's human error involved potentially but it is actually not difficult if a company takes it seriously to form a narrative or message and to make sure everyone is on that message and to deliver that message. That's what we do. And what's the balance of your base. I would say. It's a fifty fifty between very large financial institutions like franklin templeton goldman sachs oppenheimer funds and then the private side private equity funds. Everyone from like cerberus down to smaller startups in the private equity space. So it's really all over the news to get tricky. If you have even just the names you mentioned you have. Franklin templeton is a client goldman sachs management as a client and they're competing against each other here and there. How do you manage that. Well we have almost two hundred employees so luckily we can separate our team. So if clients have any discomfort or overlapping products and services. We say you know what these five people live and breathe your world. These five people live and breathe those worlds and like their separation between those teams. And i would say depending on how high the discomfort level is. There are other things we can do to really separate those teams right so kind of like what you hear chinese walls. But you can take those chinese walls today into a pretty sophisticated zone with technology and locking files and all this sort of stuff but at the end of the day i think clients choose because we are specialists and we know their space is so deeply. It's very hard to get a firm that doesn't understand your space really deeply in what we do. So almost any firm you'd hire might have one or two other clients that would overlap manage the culture at the firm when that could be a reality. Yeah well the most important thing. I believe in running a professional services organization is talent recruiting. That's all we are. I say we're a talent business. We're not a pr firm so to me. Company culture is probably the most important thing i obsess about every single day. You probably know we published a book called the army and twenty eleven and that book really was a compilation of our culture. And how we built the business. Has i was in my twenties when i ended up owning and running a business which is really weird so i knew i couldn't do it by myself. I need an army of entrepreneurs. I could not just be the only one so i figured out ways to activate my colleagues entrepreneurially to help me build the business but also to help give them skin in the game and a more entrepreneurial experience so i think i would say any success we've had is completely related to our company culture and our obsession about talent and retention and recruiting. You said there are a couple of ways that you this army of entrepreneurs you keep them motivated and keep them acting that way. What are those tools. Well one that gets a lot of attention in my book is called commission for life so we developed something called commission for life and by the way. We don't need to do this now that we actually have a brand but back in the day when we were struggling to get clients it was sort of the decision that you give to receive so the rule is basically if you bring a relationship to the firm that becomes the client you get ten percent of that client revenue for the life of the client and the life of your employment so people who have been here. Long periods of time who've participated in commission for life have five or ten companies where they get a piece of the action over long long periods of time and that just creates a different culture. Where people know. If i'm gonna do something for the company i'm going to get something out of it. And the people who are obviously receiving that commission are generally likely to keep watch over those clients and make sure they're happy right and so there's sort of this natural mechanism to making sure clients are happy and i would also say when you start gifting a commission for life people start also understanding what i call the business of the business if they don't get paid one month like wow. I didn't get my commission and like let's talk about what collections are. You're going to help me. And they understand how the business works naturally. So it's been highly beneficial. That's just one little that we've done. Are there other good ones. I guess we often talk about being a finder. Minder binder grindr which people like that too. Which i think if you're good at any professional services business you're probably doing all four of those things. So what are they. So finder is finding commercial opportunity for the business. Minder is being a great manager binder as being a great relationship person and grinder is. We're all grinders getting the work done when you look at your client base particularly this emerging emerging market who take is there a tipping point of asset size. Where managers start to say. Hey we need your help. I think practically speaking because firms tend to be a certain size when they have budget to take it seriously. There is that practical reality. But we're seeing emerging startups take marketing seriously right out the gate and they have a huge advantage even up against large firms because the large firms are sort of retooling and getting there and the startups are starting with a gorgeous website in a beautiful narrative. And like they're starting from scratch. They're coming to the market in a more sophisticated manner than the large firms did when they came to market so they're actually accelerating their success. I believe earlier because they actually have this religion now but there are practical realities around budgets and such but we're seeing a lot of startups. Come out of the gate at a prime brokers for instance taking this very seriously and spending money on it. How do you measure success. I think at the end of the day measurement should be about business impact. So i talked to you about accelerating success right. So if you're a new client and we're doing our job right and you go to a meeting instead of you. Educating the prospect for the investor or whoever it is the whole time you're showing up with them and knowing exactly who you are what you stand for and why they should choose you that makes that whole sales process so much more efficient so a lot of our job is to make sure that when a manager goes out for instance they show up to the meeting and the investor knows who they are what they stand for. Why they're in the room and they can just get down to business right. So there are many many ways to measure but that would be a business impact way to measure am i making these sales cycle for instance more efficient. But there's obviously all kinds of ways to measure reach for instance. How many people are we reaching with our message. How many people are engaging with that message so many many ways to measure none are perfect by the way but i say business impact is the real measurement. Walked me through sick. Pick a client remand. Group could be somebody else that you feel like has very successfully worked with you to consistently deliver message and had progress from it. And what did that look like from. When they first came in the door to win you got to a point where he said. Hey this is working. Well it's really interesting. We have a lot of large well known financial institutions but my favorite small client. And i think you know this mary well. There was a woman who walked in the door one day. A sole proprietor like very small business in the recruiting space and her business was all about recruiting in the hedge fund capital fundraising area and she walked in. And i figured you know this woman. It's she's like a tiny little business. Right so i met with her and i said look. I think you're too small for us. You should probably go and hire a freelancer or something. But you know here. Five or six things. I think you should do. And one of those things was the data that you're sitting on about people in capital fundraising is really interesting to reporters. Like you know who's going where at all times you have mapped the entire universe. That is like candy to reporters. You should put out a report. Ever quarter about capital fundraising. The media will love it. You will be a spokesperson. She also happened to be a very dynamic female spokesperson who used to be a journalist so she understood how this worked so i gave her some free tips and i figured i'd never surrogate well. She came in six months later and she said i did everything you told me to do. I packaged up my data. I put it out to the media. I'm talking to the media about this. And she was building her brand incredibly successfully and making her company look hundred times bigger than it was and the measure of success was she came. And i'm like this woman serious. I don't care if she's a small client. I'm working with her. I fell in love with her and a few years later she built her business and she sold it. She said i sold it. Because of the visibility. I was able to get on my brand and i get clients today because they see my data out in the media and they call me when they need to hire a capital fundraiser right so very small client jensen partners but became incredibly successful in building her brand which brought bottomline benefits to her. So i would say it's very easy to measure the impact when it's a small company because your living and breathing with the founder. It's very hard when you're working for a large global financial institution and you can't feel the business impact when you're pitching for new. Clint what the message the you tell them about those three things that protects gonna do great for them. Okay well i think one is brand protection that it's just as important to protect your round as to build it and all the things that we would do to proactively put things in place to protect it. Those things for instance third parties who are the third parties. Who would say great things about you if something went wrong. What does your employee base feel about you. Your employees are usually the lakers. But i look at a client or potential clients. Glass door page. I don't know if you've heard of that. And i can tell you what's going to happen. Based on the entries in that glassdoor page people like to who it and everybody hates it but it can be an indicator. So i think there's a lot of brand protection things we would put in place. Relationships are brand protection having the right relationships with the right people so that when things go bad you actually have a chance at talking your side of the story and then i would say and process going to build your brand. But we're going to think about it not just about the investors but all your public's right your employer brand your internal communications everything. Because i think everyone thinks only about the investor community and of course that's important but it's equally important. Think about what is that emerging talent think of you. Are they going to come work for you or you're gonna get the best talent so every single public doing audit of where you are. And how do we improve the perception. That firm and the brand of the firm. What was the tipping point where you went from outbound trying to encourage people that this is important to them calling you. Yes i think it was the perfect storm of things but one certainly is. We've talked a lot about brand building. But there's also brand protection reputation management so the financial crisis created this real wakeup. Call that your reputation matters and that especially like in the hedge fund community. You are now on the radar screen. And it's not just on the radar screen with your investors all publics. Now people get what a hedge fund is and has a negative connotation. So what do we do about their. I think waking up to that reputation matters that started in the financial crisis. I think increased competition is another thing. I think all of a sudden people looked at firms like blackrock and said oh my gosh blackrock. they're amazing. Everyone wants to go to blackrock. Everyone's talking about black. Y blackrock was probably one of the pioneers and sophisticated marketing in the asset management space. They didn't become blackrock overnight. They've been marketing for thirty five. Forty years larry fink spin a thought leader for what twenty five years so i think people think they turned on the marketing spigot overnight but they were early right if you look at any of the early adopters in true marketing and thought leadership. A lot of them are the successful firms of today. The vanguards look at what bogle did for vanguard he was a thought leader before people use the word thought leader. So i think that there was also all of a sudden this recognition that the world's getting more competitive more difficult more volatile and. I need a message that is distinctive and resonates. And if i am looked at as one of the same if there's no competitive differentiator for my business and my brand i'm gonna have to work a lot harder to be successful and that just started to become. I think something people started to believe in the space. Do temples used. You tend to have an a- bogle and even a larry thank you have a spokesman. Hr probably a great example right. Is it one person saying the message over and over or is there different way of doing it so that it's about the firm and not just one person's about you speak. Let me tell you you create as much of a problem as you solve by having a brand grow up around one person and we are hired especially in private equity and hedge funds many times because the brand has grown up around one person and they create a succession issue basically so we do a lot of work with those kinds of firms. What i call building the bench strategy making sure that there's a bench of talent that is showcased across the firm versus one person so it is incredibly important if you have one strong founder or one strong spokesperson which can be an amazing silver bullet to be also having what i call a corporate program and i feel like the aqi ours and the bridgewater's and the black stones have all been relatively successful having strong founders. Yes there's a steve schwartzman brand and he definitely built the blackstone brand using that. But i think no one would say that blackstone would not move on as an institution so i always say i think they pulled it off from a brand perspective and you can argue. Some of the others have really pulled it off yet. But i think they're on their way. I think the bridgewater's bridgewater is a client have done a very good job. Showcasing the institution as well and that's journey for all of these institutions. I think they have to be very careful about how they build a brand so the hitch home world and the private equity world are clearly in two different places in the public eye right now or even investors is. What do you think happens from new orleans of brandon communication with. Let's just start with hedge funds. Private equity firms have been way earlier to the game of marketing than hedge funds. Hedge funds are still very new to brand building reputation management and being on the front foot with all of this so the private equity world has been there early on and why is that. They are long-term investors who had to build their portfolio companies brands to have more value right. So they've understood this for a very long time. And i think they were earlier to the game. To be honest. hedge funds are newer. Do i think they'll be successful. At building institutional brands that will survive in the future. Yes i think there will be a handful that does and there will be all kinds of other peril in the ones. That don't can you tell a disaster story. Oh boy what kind of my personal disaster story. it'd be well why don't we start with. Why don't we start with your biggest mistake blazes. I think my biggest mistakes and business have been that i would have done some things earlier when you bootstrap a lot of fear and taking big bets i look back and say i know i could have accelerated our success. By taking a few big bets earlier i would also say shoemaker's house i would have marketed my own firm earlier than we took it seriously so i would say that we take marketing now incredibly seriously and if you ask me what has been the most successful marketing we've done it's been thought leadership and it's also been convening convening groups of people that want to get to know each other who are true peers under our brand auspices has been enormously impactful for our brand. What are the mechanisms of us to do that. So for instance. Here's a great example. We realize the alternatives world marketing. This new and we realized in the alternatives world that for the first time large alternative firms are hiring chief communications officers or chief marketing officers. If you look at the landscape being example they just made their head of marketing partner. Which shows you how seriously they're taking marketing right but these firms have only had marketers the last three or four years if that most of them are just hiring them first time so we made the assumption like wow. I bet those people would love to get to know each other. Like wouldn't this chief marketing officer for one to know that chief marketing officer for cerberus chief marketing officer at care. We've throw gatherings for them to get to know each other. Because we know they want to trade information and become friends and have a peer network. So those sorts of things where your gifting appear network and your gifting value to a community. That's how you get something in return. I always say. Sales is giving to receive so those sorts of activities have been very powerful to brand building for us but we only started to do these things in the last five years. So i even look at our own model and say boy we could have accelerated our own success if we marketed ourselves. A little more aggressively early. And how about turning that onto your client base where you've been doing this a long time. Imagine not every firm you've worked with is gone on to huge success so what happened in the one example that sticks in your mind man. We should have been able to help and it just wasn't going to work. The reality is what we do. There's a lot of authenticity to it. Meaning if a management team is going to make silly mistakes no. Pr can get you out of that. And this kind of gets to the other side of our business which is the crisis management and the issues management right. So i always say sometimes that we are not just the communications council but like the emotional intelligence council so we had a client who called up on the weekend said we're going to make this announcement to all our partners that they're now going to be retitled to managing director. Burt like this is the communications. We rutten and i mean i at that and said. Do you understand what this is like. Psychologically like when everyone's linked in page goes from partner to md overnight and they thought it was no big deal. And i thought this is not just a big deal to whole world. That's your talent but reputational it will be a big black eye and if you don't think people are gonna talk about this in the press. They're absolutely going to so sometimes. Some things that seem common sense to me are not necessarily so. I think that they're mistakes. That are made in business. Turn out to be reputational mistakes right. So that's where i see. Firms going wrong mostly is making genuine business. Mistakes that could have been avoided and those become big reputational errors as you know once you've let up perception or a reputation calcified very difficult to change that once it's happened. What happened in that example. Did they roll it out or did you stop stop you when i think about my proudest moments when i stopped a client from doing something that would've been materially bad for their business and bad for the reputation so let's turn to the crisis management side. Something happens funds having a bad month. Whatever it is and you know the news is going to get out. What do you do well. Of course we try to mitigate disaster and we also know if there's a really legitimate bad story or legitimate bad performance. There is sort of a myth out there that you know the firm's going to be able to kill a story you don't kill a real story when it's bad and it's real but what you can do is add context radha neutralize it negotiate with a reporter. Can i give you context around this. Because you're really too extreme on this. So we spent a lot of our time trying to neutralize or balanced bad stories. Of course we'd like to think that we could always kill stories but the reality is it's really the management around those stories. Negative performance almost always leaks to the press. So it's how do you deal with that. And how do you contextualized that. And how do you put forth the data about the performance over time right so that the reporter gets the story right and it's not as extreme. Thatt's does the hedge fund industry hasn't had the best pr for the last ten years. Eleven years how much do you pay attention to the pr of the industry. When you're working with your clients that are in the industry. Context and sentiment is everything so when negative sentiment is high. Even if it's not among your target audience you need to consider everything you do so we do pay attention to it of course and i think we're very careful it's sort of like you don't wanna make an announcement when the news cycle is against you a good. Pr firm is paying attention to everything. Every data point every policy. Move every piece of press whether it's in the popular press or it's in the institutional press so context is everything. Do you try to influence the message for the industry. It'll sore. i think so. I think everyone is a participant in the industry and some clients take various seriously and others really want to stay away from it but we also do a lot of off the record and backgrounding with reporters. A lot of our clients actually invest a great deal of time educating reporters about the industry. So that they can get it right and that is usually repaid in spades. So again i think when something extreme or extremely negative when people are willing to contextualize the reporters a lot of times. It creates a more realistic positive outcome. Which the competitive environment like for your business. It's very competitive. Especially on the mature side if a large global financial institution is going to hire a firm to manage its reputation. They are gonna take that super seriously and they are probably going to see upwards of ten players in the beginning and it's the usual process go from ten down to ford afford two but yes it's a process. I would say on the other side of the fence. It's still a process but it's not as competitive because those folks make decisions faster and they talk to their friends and they just decide if you're good enough for so and so you're good enough for me. And but think about it though on the large financial institutions side. No offense to them but they're spending other people's money and it's a different. There's a ceo and cmo and cio and they're all on the other side it's founder and founders are to some degree to go with relationship gut and who my friends use. What is it that the private equity firms have done right. There are long term investors right and their long-term operators so the advantage they have. Is they take the long view of things anyway. And that's helpful. So i've seen a lot of the larger private equity firms. Actually do some very pioneering things that have helped them out now. Like if you look. Kkr's track record on es g and corporate social responsibility. It's like twelve years long. They've been looking at how to improve their companies not just efficiencies but climate footprints and all this stuff for years and years and years and years so i think they have taken very seriously reputation public policy all this stuff so i think that they've done. Something's really well. And i think that hedge funds will to they're just earlier in their education process of what it means to really build those relationships and have those constituencies and protect your brand. I think it's just an early days. I also think honestly hedge funds have shorter term mentalities right there traitor mentality for the most part so i think it's not as natural to them this sort of space. But we see the hedge fund community as like talk about the emerging market. They are the tip of the iceberg with the emerging market. And they're taking this incredibly seriously. I mean we must get five calls a week from hedge funds saying i gotta go from the back foot to the front foot. I gotta learn the stuff and take it seriously. And what do i need to do. We don't spend very much time even in the hedge fund community. Educating them as to why they need this anymore. They know they need this. It's just getting it in place and the process that it takes to do it right. Do you think it's too late now. Water too late. well. I'm an optimist. I don't think it's too late. And i think that there will be always winners and losers and i think the hedge fund spaces had its challenges. But i think it will be a sustainable asset class. And i think they will learn these behaviors and they'll be very successful funds. I wanted to touch on another book that you wrote okay. I know which book that would be because there's only two why don't you go ahead. Sure so first book and what was so magical. What the book is believed then again. I'm office than any human being can be more entrepreneurial work and that being more entrepreneur work creates a better experience for the company but also individually. So i've seen adults. It's hard to teach adults new tricks but we did. We taught adults new tricks and it worked. So when i had my daughter ten years ago now i was fascinated by you. Know if you teach adults to be more entrepreneurial. It's a child. Like children are so moldable. How do you t to child to be more entrepreneurial and how much of it is nature versus nurture. My parents were teachers. They were not in business. And i ended up being an entrepreneur and my brother is an artist and author so he's actually entrepreneur to in his own way so people would always ask my parents. What did you do to create these two entrepreneur kids and they wouldn't have an answer so the second book was really the journey to figure out. Could you actually create a more entrepreneurial child and how do you do that. So i partnered with a professor at brown who studies child psychology and brain science so i brought the entrepreneurial side and he brought the science and we wrote this book about how to create a more entrepreneurial child which was really kind of a fun thing to do. And what did you find. Very careful not to claim victory. Because i have an eleven year old so i can't say i've raised an entrepreneurial yet but what we found was what you'd expect that you are born on a certain spectrum of aerial behavior but that environment can absolutely create more entrepreneurial behavior right so. We focused a lot on the book on. What are those environmental factors. And for instance optimism is proven to be. That can be trained like you could be born the spectrum of optimus versus pessimist but your environment can create a more optimistic person so there are certain traits. That can be highly influenced. Some of the other ones you can train. So optimism was definitely one resourcefulness was another. I mean one thing. I never ever forget when my daughter went to pre school when we had the first meeting with the preschool teachers. They said to the parents you know. No offense parents but we're going to tell you. Stop carrying your kids up the stairs and let them walk. Stop zipping their jackets and let them try it themselves. You realize parents we. We want to do everything for our kids. We don't even let them have the joy of trying and failing to zip up their jacket or tie their shoes or whatever. We're just doing it all for them. And it was like a magic moment for me where i realized. Oh my gosh. I'm not letting my kid experiment enough and try and fail enough so like little things. If you actually start focusing on your parenting behavior that way you start really changing it. Because you're like oh my gosh. I'm not letting her do. Xyz so a calculated risk is really really important. And i know we live in a scary world where we want to protect our children but we're often sucking all of the risk out of it so it's a balance. Was there anything that you found that you were hoping could be trained but you learned really was more nature and nurture not really i mean i have to say i was pleasantly surprised that as you would suspect if you concentrate on steering your children in a certain way you can actually have influence. There wasn't too much negative news which is good. So what's next for you. what's next well. I always say to people if i wrote down on a notepad. This is the firm. I want one day when i was sitting in my crappy office when we had like four employees and it was all looking very dark. This is the firm i wanted. So i'm like oh what's next. I think we're in such a magic moment as a firm and i say that with humility because took long hard road ahead but i think outside of economic event you know the next five to ten years should be very good for our firm i think again. The emerging market is raging. I think we have years before it becomes mature. And i think we have a lot to offer our clients in so many ways as they mature themselves. So i think we're just keep on doing what we're doing and execute and tried to scale the magical culture we've had which is probably the biggest challenge because the larger you get the harder it is to scale culture. Is there another book about the function of what you're doing in the come well. Interestingly enough army of entrepreneurs was published in twenty eleven. And i feel like oh my god. That's so twenty seven. The world's changed. So i'm talking to harpercollins about doing an updated book on army entrepreneurs the new generations because the new generations have certainly changed the workplace completely. And when you run a firm like ours you have. Sixty percent millennial gen z population. So we've learned so much about how to motivate and retain that workforce that it just makes sense to update with all the special things in the first book but all the new things that are to come gen z. Just hit the workforce. So what have you learned about the millennials. Because i know people often struggle to manage montiel's. So what's really interesting is. i'll talk about millennials. Gen z is the newest newest newest workforce. They're like are literally our most junior people and they were raised predominantly by genetic so apparently the gen z are going to be very gritty in tough and stick in their jobs because they were told not. Everyone gets a prize. And you may not always win and it's going to be a really interesting. Shift the millennials. Actually i give them that well. They're not that. But i give them a lot of credit. They have changed the game at work and a lot of things that they wanted out of work and life are right and i think that they generally are going to have more balance in their lives. I think they're gonna not wake up as much as gen x. Did miserable in their forties and fifties. because they didn't pursue what they wanted to pursue what they have really right as just their focus on meaning and purpose and what matters and their brave. They are so brave meaning if they don't like what you stand for. And it doesn't align with their beliefs. They just walk out and they walk out with no safety net. They are brave. We were not that brave. So i give them credit for a lot of things but they've definitely challenged us to because millennials unlike gen xers. We would stay at a job for ten years happily. That's just not the way they're wired. So they've changed a lot of the workforce but they've changed a lot for the good. I think a lot of people probably be excited to know that genzer flipping that switch obits interesting so i saw presentation on gen z. And the thing that really resonated with me was like millennials. Grow up on harry potter. Gen z grew up on the hunger games and they believe not only does only one person when you might die in the process. So i thought that was really a big shift from windsor to distort piano. Yeah i want to turn some questions before we do. If you had just one nugget of wisdom that you wanted to share with someone who's coming into the office has a fund wants to grow wants to stabilize your client base. What would it be figure out your differentiated narrative. The thing that when you say it about your firm people get excited or wanna write something down. I think differentiation is the name of the game. I thought you were gonna ask me overall life and i was gonna say the two most important words i ever learned. Were just ask and my original partner. Business taught me the just ask and one of the really cool things about not growing up in another environment with a lot of rules. That was the only rule i ever knew. So i've gone through my entire career saying what's the downside. I'm just gonna ask and when you ask and you ask the right way at the right time i find about seventy percent of the time you get something and it's amazing how few people actually ask asking four something or asking a question of something. You don't know asking for something that you want so one of my best examples. I went to the ceo roundtable discussion. And i had this wonderful chat with the ceo of a major global engineering and architecture firm and my brain. I was like wow at loved to work with this. I'd love to get a of business from his company. But you know you don't do that so we were leaving and trading cards and saying you know it was so nice to meet you and we walk out on the street corner. Were just about to leave each other and my just ask meter went off and i said to him you know i don't wanna be grabby but if you ever need a pr for my hope you'll call me and he goes. Oh my god. I'm so glad you said that. We're actually looking for a peer. He chatted with me for thirty minutes. I figured what. I was saying resonated with him. You knew what i was doing. But if i did it ask on the street corner. He became a client for eight years. If i didn't ask him the street corner i wouldn't have gotten. I have another story. One of my favorite with a really really really big mall. Twenty five billion dollar hedge fund been a client for ten years. We gave the first pitch. They fell in love with us. They said all right. You're going to get it all you have to meet the founder so we thought we're like shoo-in we should have done more homework. We met the founder very intimidating man. And it wasn't a good meeting was terrible. In fact and i'm like oh crap we just blew it so we walk out and you know the guy who liked us. The first time calls me off. Sorry that wasn't so great. I'm like i know. I know i know i know i was so so we hang up the phone and then i called back and i'm like t think you to get us another meeting with him and guys like i don't think so and then he called me back. He's like i got you another meeting with them. They always respected the fact that i was like grady. Like i'm like ask for another. We great second meeting. We got the client ten years later so i just think the just ask thing is very powerful. You prefaced it with two things you said i just ask but at the right time and in the right way. What's the right time. Well you have to have a lot of emotional intelligence around everything you do in life. Well the right time could be anything like you. Have to get the other person's vibe or they're having a bad day that day. Are they distracted. Are they wet from walking out in the rain like everything you do in just ask has to be orchestrated around right place right time or like yesterday. One of my clients was having a crisis in my brain. He hasn't found his contract yet. I really wanted. Am i going to ask him for the contract. When he's right in the middle of a do or die moment. No i'm not so. I think it's like anything it's common sense and what's the right way. I always say the right way is with humanity thing. I think the reason in the story about the twenty five billion dollar hedge fund may gave me a second chance is it kind of reminded them of that. there was humanity in it. I said i really like you guys. I know we screwed it up and it would mean the world to me if you gave another chance. You don't have to do it. i get it. I think there was humanity in the moment. I think they're like you know what we like. This chick she's got you. And i do think on the private side especially no matter how large the firms get. You're dealing with people who own the place. It has their money their firm their business and becomes very personal. Luckily i didn't grow up in someone else's corporate environment where i believed you couldn't just be a human. That's one of my goals in life. Like just do it the way you think you should do it as a human being and that's always been my guidance. Are there any other of these sort of guiding principles. Either here or in your life. yeah. I'm sure i have a whole book from. I'm going to have to do book number three but yeah i think there's a lot of them. This sounds like a negative one but another one is sort of say is. Let your enemy beer energy. There's a lot of metoo going on. And all this sort of stuff. And when i have felt left out or insulted or biased or whatever i've always turned it into a point of energy like i'll show that person i'll do that. I'm going to do that. And i think that's the entrepreneurial spirit within me but a little bit of competitiveness or controversy sometimes can fuel a whole lot of good energy to so i probably could write down twenty of these another big one for me is solve. Don't dwell put all your energy into solving problems and don't dwell for a second when things go wrong because again people put too much energy on the dwell and not enough on the solve but i read this great book by jim collins once and he talks about something called muck moments and he says every human being has pretty much the same portfolio of luck moments. Good ones and bad ones and the people who shoot the moon are the people who recognize when it's luck moment. Good luck ma. And they focus and they max it out. They don't get distracted. They're like this is the moment and they're also the same people that take a bad luck moment and turn it into a good luck moment and i would say the story about the hedge fund bad luck moment into good luck moment. I mean that story has been so important to me. Tell that story to everyone here. Because i'm like this is what can happen when you just are genuine and human rights. So bad luck moment. Good luck moments is really. I think very powerful. And that's that south don't dwell. We're gonna keep going another one another one. Oh i have so many mantras. Don't be a black and white thinker. I don't think there's there's never one way to solve a problem. There's like one hundred fifty. And i think people tend to be incredibly black and white and they don't play the gray and off from my experience a lot of people in the investment world that succeed in part because they're black and white thinkers. How do you work with that type of client. Well there's a lot of those people right. The nice thing is in the world in the world of reputation and communication. There's almost never one answer. So i think it's getting your client to respect. This world is different than your world. Because you're right math. There's one problem. There's one answer. And i think people who are in this industry. They grow up on math. I love the stories when i went to columbia business school. The first semester was statistics accounting finance human behavior. Of course i'm freaking out about the first three all my colleagues were freaking out about the human behavior class. I was like what is on. My brain is wired completely differently and it's not like they thought it was stupid class. They were literally like afraid of it. So i'm like all right. Wiring is different. So i think it's just getting your client to appreciate that. They're in their business for reason and mind for a reason and the way they see the world isn't always the way you need to see the world to be successful on my side of the fence. Journalists turner some closing questions. What is your favorite hobby. Your activity outside of work and family while there's not much time left but no my favorite hobby. If i could do it more would be scuba diving. So you do some i do. Yeah i dive couple times a year. Richard biggest pet peeve. My biggest pet peeve is well maybe two things even for myself and it happens. It happened today with you. I hate being late. And i don't like people who are late i guess. That's a pet peeve think. Another pet peeve is people who say that can't happen. I don't like i always feel like maybe that can't happen that way. But what could we do instead. So i'm getting to yes cow. So that's a pet peeve too is and i guess a third pet peeve i'm first generation american and i it was drilled into my head how much i should appreciate the opportunity that we have here even with all the. Us's problems so. I think another pet peeve is people who don't appreciate what they were naturally afforded by being born in this country. We're reading. you almost never miss in my profession. You have to read voraciously. So i think my never misses list is the new york times. The wall street journal the economist vanity fair and the atlantic really good mic. Yeah take care of grass. What teaching from your parents most stayed with you. My parents actually ended up teaching me a lot without me realizing upon later reflection so my dad was a big naturalist so he taught me appreciate nature he was also really into poetry and i find that all the poems he drilled into my head have actually been oddly. Like these guiding. Light's juve affair. I guess i have to have a lot but a couple that one is like sort of positive and one is sort of depressing. But i think the robert frost road less traveled. You know and i feel like that's my business right. I chose to go in the direction that no one else did. And that afforded me. So i i use that frost poem a lot and my presentations. There's also this odd poem by ella wheeler wilcox called solitude it's very depressing but it has some real truths and it sort of starts. I won't be able to receive the whole thing. But i recite the first few lines. It was a laugh in the world. Laughs with you weep and you weep alone and it's really a poem that reminds you that the world wants to hang with an optimist. A bright light summer with passion someone with energy and that as much as of course we should all support each other on our problems. No one wants to really hang with somebody who is always dour. And i would say i subscribe to that your mom so my parents spoke six languages each when they didn't want to understand what they're talking about they just chose three or four languages to speak so i think they taught me the importance of being open minded being worldly respecting other cultures. And i think. I look back on my parents. The one thing i think about all the time because we live in snarky world. I don't think my parents had one negative thing about anyone behind their back. The entire time i was growing up and i really look at that as like allow. I don't think anybody like that including myself. Fantastic all right last one. What life lessons learned that. You wish you knew a lot earlier in life to be honest with you. I think i got very lucky early in life like i said it looked like a bad luck moment that i couldn't get the job of my dreams. That big firms weren't hiring new york city that i ended up working for this random guy and a crappy off as whatever but look what a luck moment it actually ended up being so i would say i had the privilege of learning a lot of things early that other people learn later because i didn't have a lot of rules around me when you have a lot of rules around you. You actually start thinking those things are right. And i think that i learned early how to do things my way but no. I know how lucky i've been. Are their life lessons. You try to teach your younger people early in their careers. Definitely some of them. I mentioned the solve. Don't dwell the don't be a black and white thinker. just ask behave with humanity. All of those things for sure. And i'm definitely drill it into my daughter. Great chen thanks so much. Thank you thanks for listening to this episode. I hope you found a nugget or two to take away and apply in your investing and your life. 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DNB: WWII Level Propaganda on CBS, Chauvin's Defense Rests As Chaos Awaits, & Biden Does What Trump Did, Except Gets Praised For It

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DNB: WWII Level Propaganda on CBS, Chauvin's Defense Rests As Chaos Awaits, & Biden Does What Trump Did, Except Gets Praised For It

"Welcome to the drive time news. Thirty minutes forty five for patrons news of the day from a perspective of truth liberty and justice. This is monica perez. I'm brad because our top story. it is tax day. I hate tax day. Tax day sucks and when you file your taxes. If you owe any taxes there is a chance that the irs will dip into your bank account so if you paid your taxes last year with a check they might have your bank account number and they will take the money out so what happened to us last year as we wrote a check or we transfer the money wired the money them then at the same time. We didn't know it. They went into our bank and took the money. So then we were terribly overdrawn and it took us months to get the money back so. Watch your bankers. They took all of the money that i had in mike which wasn't much. I'll admit that. I went to go to my bank account and it was all gone. Had had been taken by the irs and they had made a mistake and they had to give me back that money and much more but it was very shocking thing to go to your atm and have all your money gone because the irs took it from you. Yeah and actually the bank said not only the. Irs can do that but anyone can do that. This is what people don't understand. It's the craziest thing. They will not day. If somebody i i hate to say this because i'm anybody who's listening could then become a fraudster. I've been defrauded this way. Someone can take the numbers off your check and just start pulling the money out of your account. I mean i'm not kidding. It's really crazy so unrelated to that. Horrible story is the horrible stories. coming out of minneapolis. The chauvin trial of the cop who was responsible for the death of george floyd was it was it manslaughter or maybe was responsible. Was it offensive. Overdose the jury will decide if there's reasonable doubt and that the defense rested though after not much so i guess they felt like the prosecutor did not much of a case. The defense started their defense. This week i think monday or tuesday. And they've already arrest and the closing arguments will be on monday. Giving the jury the weekend to think about whether or not they want to risk their lives in a quit chauvin and giving all the protesters the weekend to smash things that really hone their protesting. Brick throwing window-breaking skills and i think they were not sequestered so the jury so they would be exposed to this either. They're disposed to thinking dawn. A i don't know exactly brand name right the guy so so. Here's a story that we've been talking about this address thing what you just said. I want to pass it up on. It is with all of these riots and stuff going on literally right in the area close by to where these drivers are. Can you imagine looking out the window. I don't know where they're saying. And seeing a building on fire across the street army a protest that is an intimidating thing. That's terrorism from the perspective of the jury or or it can turn them off and say you know what a true through these people like. You don't know what impact that will have like. A really good lawyer does no so. I think that that that the judge might now lars might know but the story is that this week. Maybe it was last week but it was not. I think over the weekend that a motorist black motorist was stopped for either having air fresheners hanging zone or having an expired tag. But there's this video of a white female police officer shooting him with a gun accidentally when she meant it to be a taser and there's a lot of analysis i haven't actually dug into a the people have sent me some that the videos will that it's not. It is not really show what we're told it shows. I've been suspicious of the story from the beginning foreshore. No question about it definitely a sigh up in my opinion and some listeners. Have our patients of said. Hey like you think that really happened like why do you cover these stories. Like they're real. Well they are really the stories. These are really the stories. It's an whatever happened or didn't happen. That video and the story is that the media has been covering is sparking these protests or the media's in league with people why did the wall street journal says that the protests were sparked by the center for our american relations coalition. Care see our. Why would they say that like. They're being provocative on purpose. The wall street journal yesterday said that the protesters were kneeling down with their hands. Up and protests like this guy didn't kneel down put his hands up like they're just being very provocative and i think that these will spread that these protests are gonna spread across the country on cue that that is a problem yeah. They're creating the narrative that they want to imprint on the public mind which as we know from the narrative warfare stuff. We've analyzed that. The narrative is not the truth it is created for an agenda by the powers that be to serve their purposes often getting people who are involved in pushing the narrative to do things against their own interest. And that is what we're seeing here. Protesters are getting scammed. Also some of them will get arrested because they'll be on camera drone camera a stop light camera. They'll take a picture themselves. Put on social media say could very well be voter rounded up by the fbi just like they did last summer just like some of the people from january. Sixth have been so these things could be siab's from start to finish like the video could be faked. The media stories are all the people who are in on pushing. The story could be full of it. The protest could be ignited by an organization that is in on it. Whatever but real people will get lord into these situations and they're not gonna get a pass right and then it's gonna end then who knows if they get the other side. Is you also react. Because they are trying to gin up. That stuff january sixth i've q. Stuff and that's what's sad about it. All these people are going to be people to get hurt and the media has blood on their hands over. This and i saw an extraordinary thing last night on. Cbs we yesterday. We saw the veritas video. Where we heard the cnn guy. The technical director talked about propagandize how they gin up. Fear having the cova numbers up there. Because i want scare people and right on cue from cbs. Different network. the tonight show or the late show with colbert. one of the most extraordinary world war two. You like piece of propaganda that i have ever seen almost the entire show. Here's the beginning. The beginning theme as biden is pulling out of afghanistan in the world rejoices. Colbert might as well tap dance. His way out onto the stage at his house or wherever he was doing it from and click his heels in the air because he was so excited about how her roic joe biden was about saying gonna pull out of afghanistan acting. As though three months ago colbert wasn't calling trump a nazi for saying the exact same thing. Which was i did. Also notice that story about biden pulling out the troops from afghanistan on september eleventh the twentieth anniversary of nine eleven. We're still in afghanistan. i don't and when trump said that he was pulling the troops out. I didn't believe it. Because he he made like head of advisory over there. A guy who steve feinberg a guy who was a principal at dyncorp i think or who owns dyncorp through financial manager cerberus capital or one of those guys and i was like those guys have heavy interest in afghanistan like abe it going on and on so trump did re reverse position on that afghanistan things. Something happened just by going back in their bottom line for me is those guys are there have been pictures that have come out of there where our troops are were. Mercenaries that in our employees are defending the poppy fields and when when the taliban controlled afghanistan they radical the poppy cultivation in like one or two years. i've read. I read that way back in the day so i don't think they're abandoning the drug trade. I think that's not happening. So whether they admit it or not. I think that there will be plenty of presence there unless they get the government of afghanistan. Go to do it for us. In which case that's just a puppet speaking of puppets back to colbert. Who was very much a frequent puppet. He wait exposed. What his agenda was and talking about biden gleefully by a heroic person getting out of afghanistan he. He did the little segue that says. Oh that's why he's talking about this and the segue was too well. Biden's getting out of afghanistan because we have terrorism at home that we have to focus on. We have domestic terrorism january six. The capital insurrection. They call it. That's the terrorism. It's top priority. Now so why. Biden's pulling out of afghanistan to concentrate our efforts on focusing on getting rid of the domestic terrorism. He kidding. that's no that's exactly what he did. In later. on in the show they did A segment called tuning in the news or tuning out the news. Which is a cartoon that delivers new sarcastically. And the part of the cartoon delivering the news was to compare how this is a little bit of a different topic. But to compare how trump's administration told the capitol police officers not to go to to go easy on the white protesters. Meanwhile the police officers are trying to kill all the black people that was literally what this segment was about delivered from a cartoon. Was this funny. No it doesn't sound funny not in the least bit. Why would it be a cartoon. I think the idea of moving from afghanistan to focus on domestic terrorism implies that those are mix and match resources. That are constrained that you couldn't do both and redeployment like that's true in a war where you have a limited number of boots on the ground who can mobilize x amount of time and maybe move them from one position to another position on the border. But that's not how it works here either demented or foreign terrorism right and they're not supposed to use the army to put down what our crime see. This is the thing. Let's get rid of the question of terrorism there have a war or you have pirates or you have criminals. That's it there is nothing else and most of this stuff is all about. Like with the voting stuff subverting the processes anyway. Yeah yeah complete subversion. I mean this is the late show hilarious content coming from the late show. He took the propaganda up another step with his vaccine introduction his segment on vaccinations and we talk from the the crisis. The civic alliance that create scripts for a lot of these networks and how. They talked about using humor to shame people into doing things doing the right thing. And that's exactly what this segment illustrated. He started off by saying we've had some good news. We're almost out of this but this new variant is really starting to create a high number of infections similar to last year similar to last summer. So that makes it very critical and important that you go out and get your vaccine and then he introduces his new segment. Which i'm going to tell you about what's going on with all the vaccines and the vaccine ac- so what's happening in the vaccine and the graphic image frau's to like the really cool bars late night club says the supermodels hang out are going to be the vaccine. So here's the imagery on this. We have a graphic at the bottom of the screen that is a giant syringe with a really long sharp needle and it says the vaccine on it and then the intro. Jingle is six syringes with long needles that are wearing pink tutus and dancing and singing a song that goes like this. Get your vaccine vaccine. Gets you and get your vaccine vaccine to get you get to hug your mom. Get to hug your mom. Get the vaccine. Get the vaccine just over. And i mean. They are literally programming and brainwashing. Their audience shamelessly. This is a late night. Television show it is some of the most blatant world war two propaganda mayes. Well been in black and white who is telling me maybe this was a while ago. I'm not sure. But the i is there to listen to howard. Stern haven't in years right. Okay so i don't either. But i i so. I can't sure this is right but i guess they have a character on there caller black. I assume because. I think he calls himself. The king of all blacks soaping crazy like that and he was saying how like there. You would have to be a fool to get the johnson and johnson vaccine and there is absolutely no way like be sure to ask for pfizer or madeira. Way to be anti vaccine dude. So so that i thought it was interesting and i'll tell you that reminds me. He brought a guest on to address the j. j. vaccine and he tried to introduce it real somberly to contrast the joke they're about to making his. It's just very terrible that they're women are in jeopardy because of this johnson johnson vaccine a blood. Clotting a here have a guest a certified woman of my show. She's a certified woman so she speaks for every women's is what i took from. That said she was a certified woman a real certified woman. So what does that mean. Are you saying if i had a penis and called myself a woman that i would not be point a woman. That's a good so he's anti trans transmitted hater terrible heater so she comes out and she gives her little spiel and a joke of it is that she's not down now about it at all because she says i didn't realize that i had the whole angle was that she had gotten. Jj vaccine and it was. I didn't realize that i'd had something so safe in my body. I'm so excited. And then she goes on to list all the things she puts in her body. That are more dangerous to her health. In the vaccine the why vaccine like a tampon birth control a penis so jay vaccine is so so say can i just point out that there are benefits to all of those things that clearly are weighed in your cost benefit analysis on what you're putting in your body whereas there is no risk of death from covid to that cohort whereas there is risk of death so the vaccine in that cohort yet but the vaccine really really gets you off. I think i think that's better but it doesn't even keep you from spreading it or they wouldn't need to mask up faxed people you know what i mean. So it's just it's a. It's a false comparison. Absolute i wanted to tell you i saw came across the wire apparently. La the county is making the staples center where the lakers play and the clippers require. Don't know how they're going to enforce this but require people who come to the games have a or even other events i think. Have a vaccine vaccination proof of vaccination or attest within seventy two hours which i know people worry about the tests like the tests themselves might have some contaminants on them. I don't know about that. But the idea of having a vaccination requirement is pretty scary. It's coming from the county government. Even though the fda has not yet approved it we got a little heads up from quiet eagle a patron. Who says it looks like. They're trying to fast track the approval. And maybe the john jay thing was scwhab to show that the other things are safe so. Jj does not get the approval. Even though it's only one in a million that you have a problem and that'll help fast track the other and add credibility. I think that is all true. And then last thing and other patrons sent me a heads up that orange county was making a digital vacs passport with a qr code required and people were arms so now they are going to offer it but it will be voluntary with some good stuff. Happened in orange county which is just far. That's good remember about it. I've also saw a story. I think in the wall street journal about how the fake vaccine cards they're here and it's a problem. What are they going to do about it. People are getting these black market cards. And they're gonna stop to it well. What they'll do about it is give you offer you. The vacs tat. H-have it'll start it about the vac stat. Which is like a tattoo that you cannot see that's made of like radiating skin a black light over it. I guess so with. This is the story where i saw was an in an article and mit article. So i'm i'm fairly confident. This is true that what they uses this ink that is in that they make from derivative of firefly glow e stuff. I don't know. And i believe it's hold loose affair race. I think that ink is called lucifer's because it's lucid. It's lou like illuminates. They're going to turn us into hybrids with lightning. Bug could be could be. I wondered how the black market world is working. Are there people somewhere. Prostitutes are demanding to see vaccine papers. I is are people who are sharing needles going before. I share that heroin needle. I need to see your vaccine card i did. I know that's how they got my brother. They told him sharing needles gave you aids so even though he didn't have any problems like any illness at all he had shared a needle. Because it's not a drug user like he was not in a good way. Sure you but he went to the doctor because of that and they told him that he had a positive on hiv which you will always get a false positive on hiv hepatitis which he did so and that was it then. They started giving z. T and he died so as long time ago but it was not cool but it. Didn't you tell me that snow was debunking. The thing about the lusa ferris. Yeah they presume they do as they always do. Is they present a question that nobody's really asking. Nobody's claiming back then. Pretty funny. Yeah is funny. It's strong argument like the one about the one about hunter biden was did hunter biden murder. Thirty eight chinese children. I'm sure that's not. What the laptop conspiracy. Nobody's claiming that in this case they said is the covid nineteen vaccine lusa. Ferry is are. They won in the same right. Of course they said no. It's not and but within the. The debunk they kind of ed. They admitted that that was in some of the trials or something that that ingredient was used so they often do proof things by their deep. They proved the things that they're debunking in their debunks but they just they really long debunks eighty pages long. It feels like sometime buried at the little lower third that nobody reads. That's where you'll find some useful information usually interesting a college and maine saint. Joseph college is cracking down on students. Not wearing masks on campus. So obviously this college was hoped to see enrollment shrink if this is a catholic college. Is it fifty dollar tickets out to students who violate the schools face mask requirement. There was one student who spoke about it. He said is junior patrick myers. He said he was outside enjoying nice weather. This is this past sunday and he pulled his mask down. Below is no so he had his mask on he just exposed his nose to get a freaking breath of fresh air when a campus police officer. Those guys are always fantastic. Whiparound any approaches says. No no no no. You can't do that. i'm sorry. I hate to do this to you. I gotta give you a fifty dollar fine. Twenty one of these tickets have been handed out over the past two weeks. This is a great pitch for the university. Come to saint joseph's university in maine you'll get a great education and we won't let you down on your outside by yourself. I mean and think of the again. The that demographic is that basically no risk whatsoever reading the kids is not been a single case of a like a child giving it to the parent or any of that like it's just but whatever i'm totally fatigues with the whole. I think stuff like that is going to make more people turn against it. I think they're pushing too hard. I think that is it's getting too heavy. I have no faith in the collective mind of the american public in any. I don't know. Maybe it's because i'm in. La whereas the hotbed of it. Where if i don't know i assume georgia's much much better but i don't know before we get to our last vegas story of the free thirty which i have some friendly feedback from a feeling fan. Who has some comments about some of my comments on our interview with bob of the prep on friday or so i. I worry a little bit. When i found people and i like to bring it out to the four because if if this guy was driven to comment other people probably feel the same works. I'll tell you what my offensive position is in the last story of the free thirty. And i'm very eager to hear your stories brinkley. From in the patron fifteen of the. Us developing weapons to fight. Should i say what it is now. Let's wait and hear what the latest enemy is that they are preparing for your tax dollars at work on tax day. And why did john cleese apologize for years of monty python material. I want to know what he said. That was so offensive. That's in the patron fifteen and of course a big. 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Yeah so we were talking about proper. Bob hopefully per bobble come to a zoom party soon. That will be fun. We've had homesteaded we've had we've had home schooling. It's been pretty fun. The themes that we have in the zoom parties there for patron saints but It's just a fun time so we maybe bobble comes to one of those. But we talked to bob on friday. It was our interview and he was he was on the scene. He was living the proper life for sure for shipping. Container from shipping is hated. That's where i don't know what the rest of his seen is like. But that was definitely a bug out situation if you need one and when we talk about these topics you start thinking about how to feed yourself how to feed your family. I always think grow potatoes because potatoes don't need to be milled. You don't need a flower out of them. They're very like what you don't like about potatoes when you're living the fat life you probably like when you're living the the homestead in life. It's like a lot of calories and it's easy to eat and whatever so another thing that people like to do that's very helpful as raise chickens for eggs like the chicken. Stay around and you can get a lot of animal. Protein add eggs. I also read the nora. Get gas book about primal eating where she doesn't emphasize a lot of animal protein but she doesn't size things like organ meats and bone broth which has had a tremendous impact. I think on my my joints and stuff but things have been not great since my gym clothes. And so i like that stuff and i'm beginning to think about this new way of eating. But shaun said finally. He's a big supporter of the show is a patriot. He's really he loves. The show is totally polite and everything. But he said you know. I've i've been moved to contact you. Because i the eating me. Killing animals for your sustenance has a bad effect. He wrote a lot of stuff. So if you're patron you can read the comments. That he left on our posting. A friday of the prepar bob show and it's interesting. It's got a lot of resources people to listen to soft to explore. But i think if i may paraphrase him or consolidate some of his thoughts he thinks it is really. It is inhumane. The way we raise animals. And that's absolutely true. So i mean that that's like it has to be passed fad. You can't have any of that kind of industrial farming. He says even home sitting stuff. Animals are not happy in the end. I don't know if they're unhappy on the pastor. I don't i don't know about that. But in the end i suppose he said it's unnecessary and it's immoral and it's just basically bad psychically spiritually to live off of killing sentient beings now. I think you have an interesting point about that. Basically clave heard you make before. You're serious serious i'm serious. I've i've wrestled back and forth with that. When it comes to animals a lot and i i joke. A joke ran a lot saying that. I just wish that i could get through to roaches and other insects because we could just talk to him i i could just ask them to leave. It wouldn't have to be genocide that was actually mean i do. I do sometimes in lieu of killing an insect or something. I'll put it in a cup and go sit outside or something. I know that's ridiculous. Some people do that. But the idea of i get where i get where he's coming from but plants are alive now. They're not alive in the way that we know. What are they sentient. That's i don't know. I probably sinti in a way that we are completely unaware of if i had to guess i've told you the story. Before about the trees that there was an upgraded tree that was dying in the forest and three other trees that were in the same vicinity. Grew around that tree in a way where the rain came down and like a ramp like a slide slid down those other trees and fuelled and gave water to the tree that was up rooted saving that other trees life and that type of stuff is. I don't think that's an accident. I think there's there's some level of consciousness we might not understand it at all. It's completely different type of consciousness us. I would assume and eat a salad is. Eating is eating something that was live. When the the freshly cut grass smell the smell is since being sent off from terrorized grass. There was a scientific study about the so that great smell. We love that smell. That's the smell of terror and death and we love it chrome of grass. There's a weird way to think about that. They need to study on that at going to do studies on everything. But i find it hard to find the if you can extract that out pretty far when you think about what is life and what is it live. I do get what he's saying. And maybe maybe my thoughts on this ridiculous. I don't know but yeah. Plants are alive too. It's a tough one. That is animals. Animals are definitely you know. Animals are live animals have personalities Frigging cockroaches personalities. It's it's tough when we really think about it for me. I feel like when i hear bill gates and that crowd encouraging us not to eat animal products. Then that makes me suspicious. But i did meet a really really high level cancer. Doctor who specialty was nutrition and who that he one of his patients think. Why shouldn't say patience. But somebody who he had advised was the queen of england and this guy was on. Yeah he was on a. I was on a vacation. I was on a Hike like paid hike. You pay and i. I advise cleveland. Yes he was an american. But he said i i was. I was with this guy for like seventeen days and he was basically vegan. Yeah and i remember always scratching my head about that thinking. Does this guy just have to live that way. Because that's what the word is like that. Hey don't don't eat the. He was a prominent physician and he isn't going to be able to go against the american medical association's recommendations say even if he didn't believe like i assume you really believe that i don't know so that always gave me pause but I can't eat wheat. All and i can barely eat dairy like the older. I get the more my body's just reject all this stuff so for me to give up animal products. Who very hard like. I'm sorry i'm changing the way. I eat in favor of this stuff and it seems to be working for me and i and i know you could say that you don't need that stuff. I might need it. I don't know. I mean this is working but the bottom line is it's hard for me to like. I'm like a big ship. I can't. I'm not going to zip around from thing to thing but i really appreciate the leads that i can follow. I can have this in my mind like. This is the first time that i've that since i was on that hike with that guy many years ago that i'm like you know what maybe i should reconsider this. Maybe i should keep in the back of my mind. Not assume just because bill gates is for it. I need to be against it so it is. it is worthwhile. I really appreciate it. And i'll i'll think about it and i wonder if other people have the same concerns are really har- fide. When i talk about eating for breakfast which. I do stuff a good bit i. It's tough. it's a tough thing to think about. It's things are. It's be easier if things were just black and white and clear in the world but they're not certain areas and it can be challenging. I literally have because so like crazy. I literally had liver and sauerkraut for breakfast. And then before the show. I had bone broth which looks like jello and somebody yelled at me for microwaving. It says like. I just microwave it. Somebody reprimand scolded me on patient. And so now. I i try to avoid the microwave because then i started reading. I read that cow book listeners. Sent me the contagion myth. And i read it. And he just mentioned like microwaves are really bad for the nutritional value in your food and he talks a lot about structured water and i feel like maybe it damages that there's so much to know about nutrition and we've been raised to believe the wrong thing series. It's your own research every step of the way. So maybe i'm leveling up. I'm getting away from processed food getting away from bike rave. Maybe the next level will end up being vegan. Yeah who knows i mean. I really don't know what what we don't know so much more than we do know. Would bob say rice and beans. That's good staple to have prebon. Yes yes and that is a good. Yeah that's cheap idea. I bought like sax and sax. So that stuff. I have all the dry food is. You can see right next to my station here. But i also have just like real food that i'm going to eat through but just like five pounds as five pounds of beans just tons and tons of that. Canned peaches jarred jarred peaches steph. Like that anyway. I didn't mean to digress. Go off on that side handsome but when someone tells me that they have a reaction to stuff that we say used to be in the day that was the thing about. Wsb the call us. A when i guarantee you if somebody's calling me. A thousand other people said one call represented a thousand listeners. So you would know. Other people are listening. So i'm gonna take that salmon same rule of thumb for the payson. Go ahead and i do want to tell people. It is thursday april fifteenth. We are tax day. Boo tomorrow is friday april sixteenth so we will definitely have to have a cocktail to vip gp. So if you want to go to this patient party to our make sure you're referring to the show or patron saint signed up and you thought you're going to be included on friday ahead and message. I'll send you little invitation as a welcome gift if you just joined. And he didn't know what tier to be. But that's the place to be for the vip dp. Ross gonna be at neighbors on sunday. 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Lance Reddick

Sci-Fi Talk: The First Season

15:43 min | 1 year ago

Lance Reddick

"I'm Michael Cerberus. The observed from fringe and jeopardise Loeven from stake gland and you're listening to sci-fi talk. I've been lucky enough to spoken to Lance Riddick. Now for every season two fringe has been on so far recently before comic con. We chatted again about the upcoming season and is exciting new projects that he's producing including drone. Let's hear now from Lance Rick. As far as boils this year you had a chance to play like an older version of bras. Yes I did. What was that like for you interesting mending makeup because it took about three hours to get in and out of get Outta. Yeah I bet I bet. Did you. Mentally approach him any differently. Well only in that he say that. But it's kind of like Vichy France so still trying to do his job and take care of basic humanity that can occupied the. Yeah basically being occupied. Yeah definitely definitely. It's not just as age what he's gone and when he had a lot to endure especially with the observers in their in their new role in the future. I'm sure war war. Speaking of the future that seems to be the theme. At least start. The season is to kind of go back in and Kinda start. The story line that was started at towards the end of last year. I tried. I know I haven't read online that I haven't read it yet but for the no that's what we're GONNA be headed. Have they given you any clues at all until the final episode at all? No not at all. That should be interesting to see what they do Ending the show. I I know John. Noble has said that they're going to start in the future and It looks like everybody is coming back and You know so. That's good to gets a chance to finish the story sort. Speak Yes when. Do you start shooting? I'm not sure I actually am. I'm going to be a handful of episodes receiver. Okay so I don't know I appreciate right after car. Okay I think they start the weaker pods like seventy or whatever that is. Yeah what are your I mean? The show is coming to an end. How do you look back on the experience in working on it and the people who you worked with wow it was I never dentist science fiction show before even though even though the kind of Ood a lot of fun you know. That was always really kind of kicked. I love my work with John Noble. Yes yeah he's he's he's great. He's great it's a dynamite. Kaslo and really right from the beginning it just really was a different show and you know the word X. files never came up after the initial. Maybe I episode reviewers were eight missile. Yeah it's it's it's it's own thing and the alternate universe to me I thought was was a great Was a great way to co two really cool stuff and to see. The old breuls was need to. I know that was interesting for you to play too. I mean after you know because it's changed so much episode for season. Yeah Apple Awkward was wounded absolutely and you know one of the things that I really wanNA mention about him. As the think the the whole thing with his family in the season two. That was nice. I enjoyed that. And we get to see more of the family Royals in that universe that we don't see an hour so I like that was some good stuff there on the play. Yeah one of the things that you're doing in your in your in your own life is that you've formed your own production company this March and you actually have some things that are that are that are kind of on the fast track. WanNa talk about Saint Sebastian. You have a good director there. Mr Danny devito directing and your producer on that kind of tell us a little bit about that. The horror thriller that That I I'd something Danny when he and I worked at episode it's always Sunny Philadelphia Out May of last year. Yeah that's right and then We ended up because Because of the spotting England who actually able to shoot it with me Co starring in December. Oh Nice Nice Craig. I know there was Can Krisha work for the film back in. May and then he's GonNa play in London right now but once they've finished rehearsal and they after previews over he was He was finishing up the go. Good good and some of the other producers are he who is Refinanced your executive producers and tear sweetly. Who's the righter? is a co-producer along with myself and Danny and so we really in this direction. We're really junior partner so kind of what happens. In terms of the distribution Is going to be more kind of along? Kind of Danny Steve's say so but What started out as as one thing in in May in May actually get a large distribution. Nice we're able to get a really great cats to Leads THERE I know we in Fitch. He believe in the movie and concert. Yeah yeah good people. That's great that's excellent. And then there's something else that you're doing called the one seventeen and I think you know by doing his change so it's called grown now drone yes. Okay yes cool to do it on Youtube. I think is a great way to go to that. You're going to get a lot of us on that definitely. Yeah I think you should really gonNA push itself Bobby glittered. Who is the writer director? He's he's actually appreciate of just in landscape again. Justin Lin's Yummy Kennel. Now you and I am. Bobby means actually at one point he was he was. I think he started just in the system then using executive just as company. We're GONNA see how it goes this kind of initial storyline of of episodes. You keep doing it on Youtube or either. Do it hopefully evolve into a feature film or a Cable News via. That'd be awesome has a great place to kind of test. The waters on something like that too. That's actually something that by Bobby Baker. The the other director juicer Brought to me how cool so And then And then my partner Steven Steven that I agreed to do it because I really liked the script. We came on its corporate. That's crate and speaking of your partner. He has a very solid visual effects. Background to. Oh Yeah you're that visual effects for two. Yeah exactly I think he's worked on iron man to and if you other things to him and he probably getting away then when he was working on thought he couldn't tell me what he was working on. You know he can tell me until after came out of course course so you started casting for that or anything like that when you already shot. You're shot at. Oh Cool we. We shop that Off and on of course past two months in a couple of months I shut my stuff. I couldn't shooting my about two weeks ago. Yes here too. You're trying to work around your schedule a little bit too. That's a Bob. Even crossing the editing that Nah oh good good so yeah definitely that that sounds really cool and definitely will keep an eye out for that and Yeah I suppose to Premiere on Youtube in August okay. Great that's awesome so it sounds like you're moving into You know still doing the acting and being more of a producer now. Yeah I just found that what kind of career that I want a stage. I just need to in in terms of being the casting rooms and need to be on the other side of the table. I hear you. I tell you the only thing. They can't talk too much about but it's a presentational pilot for a half hour comedy Bush. The Guy who wrote information key he wrote and directed it And we shot that in April and so hopefully by the end of this month will have something ready to To shop to network and it's definitely it's definitely cable suits good. Good it's cool. You know it's funny because I was just I just happened to catch Jona HEX new the fourth of July. And there you were reacting to the fireworks and everything onto four kind of neat to see that. That was fun to go. Yeah Yeah especially. There's nothing there I mean. They were building the Washington Monument and that scene. So it's really really funny. That's great and you know it's it's also met was also want to mention that can be in won't back down coming out this fall to with some really good people in that also. We can't and actually I saw screening and actually I the version that I saw re weeks ago when this Finnish version He's a really really great film and it's really important so yeah yeah and performances curb. Maybe how great In particular via Davis. And you're in growth place. I can't remember the name. The girl plays making daughter. Really kind of I I mean I know it's about the school system and how parents literally kind of taken on themselves to get things done and cut through red tape and of couple of parents. One of whom is also a teacher in school and that's sector how they tried to start a charter. School really considered their their their children and I play a violent husbands as far as as fringe. Have you gotten any idea at all? What's going to happen to you this season? I will know ideal. They do that to you. I don't know what it is. I don't know everything he does he does. I know that That Jeff Pick ner won't be with the show but that you know it's not to read anything into that he just wants to pursue anything else and you still have J.J. Wyman who is more than capable of being the show runner the rest of the way and planning out the final thirteen so I should be. That should be cool. I think the exciting from Houston are absolutely. I guess you'll be shooting that probably like around March or something like that. I would think at that point because they're going to be kind of so we'll be done shooting by December. Oh by December. Wow that's a long time not to say anything. So we'll the series start up in September or later I would assume start same time started every year since but you know what I should make a through sudden January one. John probably be a better person. People see him so I will definitely ask him as Jill. Oh yeah as far as a comic con you've been to a few of those now I mean for me. It just seems like a different experience every time I go. What's it been like for you? A little weird kind of a world when you get there and you go from a mental mental events. And then you leave. Yeah exactly and and the tetons that I've been there last year. We had. We had a photo shoot the next day so we literally we had. I the so literally We're in we were Signings and interviews and panel all day long. It was all one day and then a little took it all night and then in the morning we were in a photo shoot for those works will flying up that night to Vancouver and shot working on Monday. Wow you guys are gonna be out more so okay. That's good because I know the the press stuff is on Sunday. And so is the panel. So that it'll be the last day of the convention which is interesting. I should be a lot of fun. It will be good to see what happens. You know. It's been now. I hope I'm sure we'll talk again but It's been a great part for you and what you've done with him. I think he really pushed the boundaries of what kind of character normally is really took him to a whole `nother level. Or thank you I really. I think you've got a lot of humanity to him and also a good strong sense of right and wrong that That you kind of need for a guy like that he really has been with all the craziness going around you. Pearls was always the guy that Kinda grounded to shout literally in both universes. You know it's it's interesting interesting to hear you say that the first season one the first question people always ask me when they would stop me was grows of. Yeah Yeah Yeah exactly and I looked at the character but erm who the guy was who revealed changed dramatically because ensues. Oh Yeah Yeah I did like the the whole story arc with Mr Harris and of course Have you manipulated me? I I'm done twenty. I will call. I'm dying jared. Harris is an amazing talent takes dead. He's really something else you know but but I haven't seen it yet but Even my mentor. Your partner was telling me that he's absolutely brilliant machine in the madness. Yeah Yeah and actually. He's GonNa be in Lincoln. I think he's playing ulysses s grant in Lincoln version. Yes he is yeah. That's what I hear so Lincoln. You mean the Viper hundred the not to vampire hunter. There's a historic Lincoln being done Daniel day-lewis is playing Abraham about that. Yeah wow that'd be noi because it only one person play Lincoln that just got nailed it. it was amazing. That was the dumbness Lincoln and this is before I mean this is like nineteen thirty. This is before which I totally agree with that That was an incredible performance. And until you know when I saw that I go has Abraham Lincoln. I mean it was it was. It was scary. I mean the the movie. Oh yes when I was a kid one of my classic movies big personally just standing there thank you yeah yeah. I'm like Holy Mackerel. I know it's really for people who haven't seen it. It's definitely a classic see and And really I haven't seen vampire hunter but I do WanNa see with Daniel Day. Lewis does with Lincoln in this law. Yeah every character actor want I hear you I hear you. Well wish you the best of luck on the new season. We're looking forward to sending it off and I did want to talk to you before the convention so that we talk about other things besides fringe and we'll get some good stuff but more about fringe at the convention. I'm sure but Great to talk to you again. Good luck with all your projects. It sounds like you're moving into any exciting part of your career. Allah thank you. We'll talk again. I'm sure okay you take care now. All right bye-bye harmless Redican fringe and you're listening to satisfy talk.

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