38 Burst results for "browns"
Fresh update on "browns" discussed on Patriots Beat
"Now, the question boils down to to me is a will Macbeth that guy will he be Matt Ryan or will he be Kirk Cousins, right? And B, if he is Kirk Cousins, is it going to be worth it in terms of the investment? Instead of just restarting the clock on another rookie, like the judge just did, by the way, because they had Sam darnold, they trade Sam darnold to Carolina and basically draft Sam darnold two and restart the clock just with Zach Wilson so they can stay on The Rookie contract. They did this exact thing, just not they didn't take the guys that we would have taken. You know? It's going to be very fast. I think that bigger contract is one we should definitely look at and see how much does baker end up getting in the market and what the browns end up doing with baker because I think Mac will be in a pretty similar spot in your four to 5 as baker is in now. Or does he get the contract? Right. So what he's got what? This year and next year left? Baker? Yeah. Yes. I think this is his fourth year now. Hang on. I'll pull it up. 2017. Here's a 2017 rookie, I believe. Because the other really interesting thing in this is, you know, some of it's dictated. Yeah, so he has this year and then he has his opportunity. Do the browns look at next year's quarterback class and say, you know what? We want to dip back. Like so that's when it comes down to unless they have this is kind of my point. Unless teams have Patrick Mahomes or Aaron Rodgers, they're fine dipping back into the draft. And I'm saying if you're the Cleveland Browns here, if Kareem hunt and Nick Chubb, you have Jarvis Landry, David joko, I think is really starting to turn the corner really like him. I really like what they're doing on defense. Miles Garrett Denzel ward. They got players on that side of the ball. Yeah. If you move on from baker right now. And the browns have.
Keenum, 3rd-string back Johnson lead Browns past Broncos
"Third string running back D'Ernest Johnson rushed for one hundred forty six yards in guiding the Browns offense in the seventeen fourteen victory over the Broncos Johnson scored on a four yard run in the first half and picked up fifty two yards on seven carries as the Browns chewed up the final five seventeen it's always dream come true just to be here and just to be able to pay no estar N. just come out and help the team win case Keenum threw for a TD and was twenty one of thirty three for one hundred ninety nine yards in his first start in two years Denver quarterback teddy Bridgewater threw for a pair of TV's and gutted it out while playing with foot and quadriceps injuries the Broncos finished the game without linebacker von Miller because of a sprained ankle I'm Dave Ferrie
Fresh update on "browns" discussed on Sportify
"Number four. I think it should be higher six touchdowns so far. That's the most touchdowns. Sixteen only two interceptions really great flow higher number five prescott nowadays thirteen hundred yards thirteen touchdowns three interceptions fifty six point six total. Qb our room for improvement but we will see how season goes and as long as he can get his hands on the ball. I think we should be then just missing the top. Five lamar jackson more. Raymond's matthew stafford los angeles aaron rodgers treatment hucker trayvon. Eggs dallas cowboys. Many money interceptions in the first part of the season being boasted outs cowboys. Fan franchise. history. Like that guy's never gonna stop and fun fact about him. He said he went. Alabama and nick sabin switched from wide receiver. Which is his brothers. Stefan's position currently order back and trayvon so upset that he cried and now look and he's like i actually thank him now. Then myles garrett defensive end from cleveland brown also. He has had four point five sacks just off justin feels. That's incredible the next game transition to the browns and the browns won twenty six to eight measly sits just like like adam said last time just in fields had nowhere to run or to hide so it was now basically what happened. Andy dalton is not the starter anymore may cut him out and Justin fields is now e starter and It's helping the team. I will say it is helping. They are improving. that's icing. the bear should've never signed in to begin with. But my dams mayfield and was doing. You only have one touchdown but two hundred and forty six yards. Genetics gain ravens. Andy lyons actually close game despite the lion's not winning a single game to seize it ravens. Nineteen seventeen march accident leading one touchdown. Two hundred and eighty seven yards sixteen out of thirty one and also the leader for that game in rushing yards as well seven. Carey's va yards. Of course. this was where justin tucker at his sixty nine yards. Nfl record adamant. I were talking about you. Picked justin tucker or adam venit. Terry i said gonna terry and also how colonel mustard conversation about because out of terry is related to general colonel. Custard out of goes is not the guy from clue and i was like no. That's a really long kick and no one is going to make it in the lines. Were like all night our gonna win. Good then.
Knicks Beat Celtics in Opener in Double Overtime
"The Knicks Celtics open their seasons by playing double overtime before New York eked out a one thirty eight one thirty four victory former Celtic Evan Forney a hit four three pointers in the overtime and finished with thirty two points his final Trey put the Knicks ahead with fifty six seconds left Julius Randle was high man for the next with thirty five points R. J. Barrett scored all nineteen of his points after halftime the Celtics lost despite Jaylen brown's career high forty six points Jayson Tatum finished with twenty points eleven rebounds but he was seven of thirty from the field including two of fifteen from beyond the
Fresh update on "browns" discussed on Debate Amongst Friends With Doc & Prof
"The deck of a commercial fishing boat on there on thursday. It directed him to the best night of his football career. Wow those this words. So dramatic isn't necessarily dramatic the year. But i mean great game for them. I mean again we call the browns and the first time i picked the browns all season and they got the w i called the announcement. I call the owners. i mean obviously. I didn't him that kind of game. But you know not me. everybody else. Right didn't expect me. I knew he was going to have a good game. But i just know that if nick child was there this game in this game every six fourteen. I don't think so. I think it would have been twenty eight that she said well. The problem is like johnson got free a lot. It was just so like he's a good back. But i just wasn't seeing the speed out there. Yeah he had like breakaway speed. Yeah we definitely manageable definitely serviceable. But it's talk about some other things serviceable here right before we get into the queue. Qb index coffins. Are talking about getting shawn watson but brian flores. It has mounted what talking about too is. Our quarterback is blowing smoke up on my butt cheeks or what's happening right. Sorry sorry right now again. Oh goodness who albany off folks. because of i'm always allergic split to write. Had his first game back received they ran london. He's number twenty four on the ranking. He did have a really really bad second-half interception. But i mean that's a rough loss. Man i game says what week one right. he's also ahead of been rothlisburger. So i mean speaks volumes. Big values to me. At least he's actually you know one below jimmy garoppolo. Who hasn't played in.
Browns' Mayfield out with shoulder injury, Keenum starting
"Their top quarterback under center this weekend but the Browns will be without theirs on Thursday Baker Mayfield will sit out Cleveland's game against the Broncos with a painful left shoulder injury Mayfield suffered the injury last month that continues to be bothered by it case Keenum will start on Thursday the Niners are optimistic Jimmy grapple complaint against the colts on Sunday night after missing the previous game his backup won't be Trey lance who sprained his left knee while filling in for Karabo I'm the ferry
Why Does Gen Z Believe Leftist Garbage?
"Welcome back to one on one with me, Sebastian, and amala E. So, you are at the forefront. You are probably the newest national personality for this amazing institution that is pragya university. Will you tell us a little bit about first because you're in the trenches? Will you tell us why? Generates, what are you Generation Z, what are you? Yeah, I am. Okay. So why does Gen Z? Believe all this garbage. Break it down for us. Is it just the schools or tell us how they believed what you believed? I think it's a multitude of things. I think schooling is really important. I think that's a big part of it now, although it wasn't such a big part of it when I was younger, but the rise of CRT, critical race theory and DEI, diversity equity and inclusion is particularly putting young people at risk to believe this sort of ideology. But I think more so than that. It's social media and mainstream media. What they do is they pull these emotional stories. I'll talk about it in my case, things like tamir rice, Eric Garner, Michael Brown, the police brutality narrative. I was inundated with that narrative by mainstream media and by social media. And of course, you hear these harrowing stories of abuse. And so you'll like a post talking about how Michael Brown was shot and killed for being black and suddenly that's all you see on your social media feeds. And the big tech overlords are cognizant of that. They're pushing this sort of ideology to young people and everybody on their platforms. So I was getting it from social media. I was getting it from mainstream media. And then I had the brilliant combination of also getting it from my mother at home. And it didn't matter how successful I was as a young black female. I went through school. I was valedictorian of my high school. I worked a job after school. I started my own club at school. I got all these scholarships. I was inquired by Yale to go to Yale. And yet you would have asked me and I would have told you, I'm a press because I'm a black woman in America. And it's because these emotional stories that do not speak to a larger truth or a larger systemic pattern are so pervasive and they're able to cut through actual logic and reason when it comes to young
Why Overreach Could Doom Democrats in 2022
"Election. Good morning. Selena, how are you? Good morning, sunshine. How are you? I'm not so sunshiny. The browns got blown out in Cleveland yesterday and everybody's banged up. I think Kareem hunt torn Achilles, both of our tackles are out Nick Chubb has heard. I'm just grumpy. I got stuck in steelers traffic, but that's all I got. This is close as I got to watching them. Okay, well, I loved your column. I want to play this clip again. It's from the Terry McCall, in the key last governor's debate talking to Glenn young. I don't think Paris should be telling schools what they should teach. What is the significance when I've read your calm, but explain it to people who haven't yet gone to Selena zito dot com and read it. Well, I think the whole key to this entire race is one word. And that's overreach. And I think that that is the sort of chaos and power grabbing that the voters exactly voted against with Biden. And yet they are seeing with all of the Democrats. And I think that that listening to Virginia voters, that is the problem. What color has? And it's the problem that Democrats are facing across the country in these off year elections, Virginia and New Jersey are the larger races, but even in small municipal races. I think that Democrats are going to have a big problem in a couple of ways.
Update on the latest sports
"AP sports I'm Josh Rowntree major league baseball's NLCS the Atlanta Braves now hold a two oh series lead Eddie Rosario singled home the winning run in the ninth inning to send the Braves past Los Angeles Dodgers five to four we're sorry you had four hits for Atlanta in the NFL the Arizona Cardinals remain the NFL's only unbeaten team and continue their best start since nineteen seventy four Kyler Murray tied a career high with four touchdown passes in the cardinals improved to six now with a thirty seven fourteen dismantling of the Browns also around the NFL on Sunday night football TJ white forced a strip sack of Seattle Seahawks starter Geno Smith in overtime as the Steelers moved to three and three on the year with a twenty three twenty when dak Prescott three thirty five yard touchdown pass to CeeDee lamb in overtime to give the cowboys a thirty five twenty nine victory over the patriots Aaron Rodgers passed for two touchdowns and ran for another in the Packers fifth straight win twenty four fourteen at Chicago the March Jackson threw for one hundred sixty seven yards and a touchdown while the ravens frustrated Justin Herbert in a thirty four six stifling of the Chargers I'm Josh Rowntree AP sports
Murray throws 4 TD passes, unbeaten Cardinals batter Browns
"Kyler Murray tied a career high with four touchdown passes in the cardinals improved to six you know for the first time since nineteen seventy four by dismantling the Browns thirty seven fourteen I think you can feel the energy before the game always a practice is very weak I mean come on come on the road no us versus you know for personnel whose who's gonna go to Murray connected with the Andre Hopkins for two touchdowns and finished twenty of thirty for two hundred twenty nine yards the cardinals built a twenty nothing lead in the first half and kept their perfect record intact despite not having head coach Kliff Kingsbury or star linebacker Chandler Jones both of whom tested positive for cocaine nineteen I'm Dave Ferrie
No 12 Oklahoma State rallies late to beat No. 25 Texas 32-24
"Twelve ranked Oklahoma state remains unbeaten after scoring the last nineteen points in a thirty two twenty four victory over number twenty five Texas Tanner brown's fourth field goal of the game gave the cowboys their first lead Spencer Sanders gave Oklahoma state briefing room by scrambling for a ten yard TD with two eighteen remaining Jaylen Warren finished with one hundred ninety four yards rushing on thirty three carries Jason Taylor the second eighty five yard interception returned for a touchdown in the second quarter kept the six in Ocala boys in the game Texas led seventeen three and twenty four thirteen before falling to four and three I'm Dave Ferrie
Cardinals coach Kingsbury, 2 others to miss Sunday vs Browns
"Arizona coach Kliff Kingsbury will miss the cardinals game Sunday at Cleveland Kyler Murray in Baker Mayfield former teammates at the university of Oklahoma will face off with the five no Arizona Cardinals played the Cleveland Browns on Sunday but the cardinals be without coach Kliff Kingsbury quarterbacks coach Kim Turner or defensive tackle Zach Allen after they tested positive for code nineteen star linebacker Chandler Jones is also out he was put on the reserve Kobe ninety list on Tuesday Kingsbury who said that the team has been one hundred percent vaccinated for quite awhile did his usual Friday morning media availability at the team's practice facility several hours before the news came that he tested positive Arizona's defense coordinator Vance Joseph and assistant head coach and special teams coordinator Jeff Rodgers will split coaching responsibilities for Arizona I'm
The Investigation Into Wisconsin's Election Is More Critical Than Ever
"Of the 25 grants CTCL provided to cities and counties in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Texas, and Virginia, that were a $1 million or larger, 23 of the 25 grants went to areas that Biden won in 2020. One of the two counties won by Trump, Brown county Wisconsin, received about 1.1 million that's less than 1.2% of the 87 and a half million that CTCL provided to those top 25 recipients. But even in Brown county Wisconsin, where heavily Democrat, Green Bay is located, the funding disparities are glaring, the Wisconsin legislature provided roughly $7 per voter to the city of Green Bay to manage the 2020 elections, rural counties in Wisconsin received approximately $4 per voter. The CTCL funds boosted Democrat voting Green Bay resources to $47 per voter while most rural areas still have the same $4 per voter. And similar funding disparities occurred near Detroit, Atlanta, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Flint, Michigan, Dallas, Houston, and other cities that received tens of millions of dollars of CTCL money. I think what's important William to remember here and to point out is what happened in the areas that did not get CTCL funding as I understand it from your study from your research, the numbers stayed pretty consistent, very consistent to what happened in 2016.
Democrats Ensure We Rely on OPEC, Overwork Our Electrical Grid
"And we didn't have an administration that in the face of inflation and economic dislocation was putting people out of the work through nonsensical mandates banning products because they use fossil fuels like certain types of automobiles And here we are energy independent and actually unilaterally ensuring that we would rely on OPEC again I predict there's more to come folks depending on how long this goes on I predict this is going to go on Unless we have a change of leadership in Washington D.C. in which case we will have brown out some blackouts As they push more and more products to use electricity and the electrical grid is incapable of handling it all These people are not good planners They're not they're not experienced in economics They're not experienced in the private sector We have relatively young marxists like AOC and even old marxists ideologues like Bernie Sanders who are pushing the agenda That's why your gas prices are going up That's why they're shortages That's why we have inflation That's why they push massive tax increases That's why we were energy independent ten months ago and we aren't today Just a matter of time
Democrats Ensure We Rely on OPEC, Overwork Our Electrical Grid
"That in the face of inflation and economic dislocation was putting people out of the work through nonsensical mandates banning products because they use fossil fuels like certain types of automobiles And here we are energy independent and actually unilaterally ensuring that we would rely on OPEC again I predict there's more to come folks depending on how long this goes on I predict this is going to go on Unless we have a change of leadership in Washington D.C. in which case we will have brown out some blackouts As they push more and more products to use electricity and the electrical grid is incapable of handling it all These people are not good planners They're not they're not experienced in economics They're not experienced in the private sector We have relatively young marxists like AOC and even old marxists ideologues like Bernie Sanders who are pushing the agenda That's why your gas prices are going up That's why they're shortages That's why we have inflation That's why they push massive tax increases That's why we were energy independent ten months ago and we aren't today Just a matter of time
Jackson leads Ravens back to 31-25 OT win over Colts
"Lamar Jackson hit marquise brown for a five yard touchdown in overtime sending the ravens past the colts thirty one twenty five it was the fourth TD pass of the night for Jackson who is thirty seven of forty three for four hundred forty two yards are your initiatives only knowledges lot there you know I'm just calm everything was moving slow you know and I was just taking a player at a time and that's what it was brown and mark Andrews each caught two TD passes as the AFC north leaders approved a foreign one Baltimore trail twenty five nine in the fourth quarter before scoring two touchdowns blocking a field goal and watching right regal Blankenship missed a forty one yard kick in the final minute of regulation Carson Wentz completed twenty five of his thirty five passes for four hundred two yards and two scores for the wanted for colts I'm
Reward increased to $2.5M for information in slaying of Seattle federal prosecutor
"Cross your reporting reward money has been increased for information helping solve the killing of a U. S. prosecutor in Seattle rewards now totaling two point five million dollars have been announced for information in the killing of federal prosecutor Thomas C. Wales in Seattle twenty years ago Nicholas brown the new U. S. attorney for the western district of Washington announce the justice department has doubled its reward to two million dollars at a ceremony Monday marking the death of Wales in addition the national association of former U. S. attorneys is offering about five hundred thousand dollars for information helping solve the case Wales was an eighteen year veteran of the U. S. attorney's office he was fatally shot through a basement window of his home on October eleventh two thousand one hi
Herbert's 398 yards, Ekeler 3 TDs lead Chargers over Browns
"Justin Herbert accounted for five touchdowns in the Chargers forty seven forty two win over the Browns Herbert passed for four scores and ran for another it didn't go the way we thought it was going to today we didn't X. imagine to put up forty seven points like that but sometimes it's that type how you have to win games in the NFL the game saw four lead changes in the fourth quarter when the teams combined for forty one points Austin Ekeler made the go ahead score on a three yard run with ninety one seconds remaining his third touchdown of the game Cleveland's Baker Mayfield had a pair of touchdown throws and Kareem hunt rushed for two more mark Myers Inglewood California
Brady's 5 TD passes to pace Bucs' 47-15 rout of Dolphins
"The Tampa Bay Buccaneers used a high powered offense and lots of defensive pressure to defeat the Miami Dolphins forty five to seventeen Tom Brady completed passes to ten different receivers including two touchdown strikes to Antonio brown and Mike Evans and one to Giovanni Bernard bank try to spread around everybody in here can make some plays Jimmy plays the backs me plays in the pass game I needed I was on the receivers did that's what we're going to keep doing what I keep spin around the books injury riddled defense rose to the challenge with three sacks a forced fumble and an interception Miami quarterback Jacoby Brissett pass for two hundred seventy five yards and two touchdowns but much of that was early in the game before the bucs defense settled in I'm Tom Aikens
Browns vs Chargers: Final Injury Report Full of Concerns for Cleveland
"We're still looking at Wednesday's injury report, but for the Chargers, everybody's getting a little practice, and there's no D and ds. Anybody that's not practicing is on IR. Right. Those are the only guys that are not practicing, but knock on wood doesn't this feel weird? It feels good. It feels really weird because when you look at the Cleveland Browns, there's a slew of dudes of DNP. There's a lot. There is a lot of 15 or 17 something crazy. There's a lot of people on this list. Yeah, in years past, this would be flipped. We would be the one with the scroll of players that are not practicing and the other team had like a handful. Not this year, folks this year, we've only got one two and three, four, 5, 6. People on the list and everybody's practicing. Yeah, three of them are limited, but they only guide on their list that's like come on dude is Chris Harris. You know, like, you asked the point or else they would have put them on IR. He had to be so close to being able to play. He has to be back this week. Coach coach talked about him last during his most recent press conference and he said that, you know, he practiced in pads last week. There are really wanting these guys to get healthy and stay healthy. Right. It feels like he's probably going to play this week. He got in limited, but, you know, Justin Jackson Derwin and Chris Harris are limited. So everyone else is full. So that's pretty crazy. Yeah. And yeah, and it's crazy because the browns have an extra day rest too, 'cause they put Sunday, we play Monday. Their list is huge, man. It's crazy because a lot of these are like, they're just not practicing. Coach is just like not injury related. They're just resting. Two of the guys. Run them up. Run them off. Run them off, dog. Let's see. So we've got Odell Beckham junior. He's practicing in full davin Clowney. He's he didn't practice, which is, I mean, that's a big name. Wow. Garrett didn't practice Troy hill, Malik Jackson. There's a lot of guys on this list that starters that didn't
Imagine What Would Happen if Kamala Harris Was Chased Into a Bathroom...
"I want you to imagine for just a moment what would happen. If kamala harris got chased into the ladies room imagine if comma harris got hounded and harassed in a ladies restroom the new york times would be apoplectic. joy behar would be hyperventilating. They'd have to bring out a brown paper bag for joy behar to breathe into if one of the democrat icons got stalked and harassed in the ladies bathroom but no no no no no that the rules are different because the rules here. Say if you're on the left you can bully. You can taught you can intimidate. You can get people fired. You can get people canceled. You can scream. You can yell. You can assault. George floyd gets killed. Go beat up some white people.
"browns" Discussed on Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ
"Unbelievable ally really in the same key. Your football expert. Are you gonna come out of that game if they beat tampa bay and say this is a team that can contemporary super bowl or if the browns win the chiefs against the cheese. Will you come out of that game. The browns a team. That can win the super bowl with more. I would probably come more out of the cowboy game than the browns game. Because i believe that the cowboys need something. They need something to get them to believe that they actually can do the cleveland. Browns did that already. Well i would say here's the end that that will get them to believe. They already believe they can do it the day believe they can do it. The cowboys don't believe they can do it yet. The differences like. How do they win. If the cowboys defense looks good. I might say okay but even if the cowboys win the defense. I'm not going to believe in them. But in the in the afc we ask the same thing every year. Yeah but can you beat kansas city ca poltimore. Up kansas city buffalo. Can you be kansas city. Cleveland can you beat kansas city and again they lost by like five points. They can beat kansas city even week one. I think that means more than the cowboys. Beating the bucks unless key. The cowboys defense shows that nothing feels better than beating a super bowl champion with tom. Brady nothing coming off a super bowl. You bring all twenty two back. You got all your coaches. You getting ready to shoot two. You're getting ready to drop the banner on our head in turn on the lights and then we go into your stadium l. national tv on a thursday night and pop you key. You don't think that feels good. Polls to beating a kansas city chief team that we barely lost to and we already jumped over the hump last year by making albums. Aren't nobody ever thought that we would ever be anything. But let me let me bring back a point that you brought a couple of days ago because we were talking about tampa bay and their route to win a super bowl and you said well you beat a washington team. That had a good defense but really didn't have a quarterback being new orleans team where drew brees. You know happy ribs right without ribcage. You beat green bay where the miscommunication the floor and airlines kansas city. Their line so that almost. I hear what you're saying but in kansas city. Kansas city was smacking people last year in the end in the end. I just beat the greatest quarterback of all times an team that just wanted them super bowl no matter how they got it fair point. Yeah but you know what. Here's here's the difference for me unless the defense shows up. I still don't believe in the cowboys even if they win. I believe in the browns. If they beat the chiefs. I already kind of believe in it or they beat the chiefs. Oh listen th these are. These are some great stories. I believe in two. I believe in them too but remember the question who has more to gain not who you believe in you like the cowboys. We liked the browns. He's got an argument. According to what. I stopped trying to conversation. We're asking who has the most to gain in week one on the dr pepper call in line. Eighty eight say. Espn seven to nine three seven. Seven six guitar to sneak in a call here No yes no. It will do that coming up. The browns are not the only nfc team. Sorry nfc afc north team with a lot on the line in week one We'll tell you that who that.
"browns" Discussed on The Stephen A. Smith Show
"What do they really gained. W- what i'm saying. So max what we what the media gains. We have something to talk about. Fans gain their buzzing. The cowboys would let's face it. That were probably means. It's an early season bucks team. They'll get hot later. There's plenty but the browns. What i'm saying the reason it's so much to gain is their legitimacy. Even internally we see building last year built it built through the playoffs especially importantly against pittsburgh big radius. But they've already gotten over. That hump was getting better winning a playoff game something that they had done forever. The dallas cowboys. What was the last time. They beat anybody that was anything but if the dallas cowboys win considering what they were last year six and ten that game with dock where they won against atlanta which was atlanta in that moment. It's unbelievable ally really in the same key. Your football expert. Are you gonna come out of that game if they beat tampa bay and say this is a team that can contemporary super bowl or if the browns win the chiefs against the cheese. Will you come out of that game. The browns a team. That can win the super bowl with more. I would probably come more out of the cowboy game than the browns game. Because i believe that the cowboys need something. They need something to get them to believe that they actually can do the cleveland. Browns did that already. Well i would say here's the end. That will get them to believe. They already believe they can do it the day believe they can do it. The cowboys don't believe they can do it yet. The differences like. How do they win. If the cowboys defense looks good. I might say okay but even if the cowboys win defense on not going to believe in them but in the in the afc we ask the same thing every year. Yeah but can you beat kansas city ca poltimore. Up kansas city buffalo. Can you be kansas city. Cleveland can you beat kansas city and again they lost by like five points. They can beat kansas city even week one. I think that means more than the cowboys. Beating the bucks unless key. The cowboys defense shows that nothing feels better than beating a super bowl champion with tom. Brady nothing coming off a super bowl. You bring all twenty two back. You got all your coaches. You getting ready to shoot two. You're getting ready to drop the banner on our head in turn on the lights and then we go into your stadium l. national tv on a thursday night and pop you key. You don't think that feels good. Polls to beating a kansas city chief team that we barely lost to and we already jumped over the hump last year by making albums. Aren't nobody ever thought that we would ever be anything. But let me let me bring back a point that you brought a couple of days ago because we were talking about tampa bay and their route to win a super bowl and you said well you beat a washington team. That had a good defense but really didn't have a quarterback being new orleans team where drew brees. You know happy ribs right without ribcage. You beat green bay where the miscommunication the floor and airlines kansas city. Their line so that almost. I hear what you're saying but in kansas city. Kansas city was smacking people last year in the end in the end. I just beat the greatest quarterback of all times an team that just wanted them super bowl no matter how they got it fair point. Yeah but you know what. Here's here's the difference for me unless the defense shows up. I still don't believe in the cowboys even if they win. I believe in the browns. If they beat the chiefs. I already kind of believe in it or they beat the chiefs. Oh listen th these are. These are some great stories. I believe in two. I believe in them too but remember the question who has more to gain not who you believe in you like the cowboys. We liked the browns. He's got an argument. According to what. I stopped trying to conversation. We're asking who has the most to gain in week one on the dr pepper call in line. Eighty eight say. Espn seven to nine three seven seven six. Get time to sneak in a call. Here no yes. No it will do that coming up. The browns are not the only nfc team. Sorry nfc afc north team with a lot on the line in week one We'll tell you that who that.
"browns" Discussed on Fantasy Focus Football
"I think they're bailing us out in that like 'cause like to me he's paid. That's too early for me. He's going ahead of juju smith schuster. He's going ahead of michael. Thomas like if you're going to take a flyer in that range on an injury prone wide receiver that has massive upside. Why wouldn't it be michael. Thomas odell beckham. junior has missed at least four games in three of the past four seasons since joining cleveland okay. He's wide receiver thirty nine on the points per game basis. Thirty nine thirty nine since he's been in cleveland on points per game basis wide receiver. Thirty nine point nine games. He's had three games. Only three games in cleveland where he's had more than twenty points. He's had two games with over one hundred receiving yards and i bet one of them was that monday night game against the jets where he took that one past ninety yards or whatever you want to prevent exactly and so you know thursday. Kyle found this seventy fifth out of eighty nine qualified wide receivers in fantasy points per target since he joined the browns and obviously some of that is the touchdowns and they tried to get on the ball. Hit that weird year where they just could not get on the ball in the end zone. Despite you know throwing it to him a ton but like michael. Why would you not want. Juju smith schuster or michael thomas. Both of whom have also been elite. Fantasy receivers candidly more recently than odell beckham has. Yeah you know. And i don't know that. Michael thomas injuries concerns are any than beckham's at this point in their careers. It's kinda reminds me of the emotion side of fantasy football. Because what's the expression. Fool me once. Shame on you for me twice. Shame on me and it's going to happen with people this year. Right is there is going to stay to themselves. I know they're done. Yeah i was a world where odell finishes a top five wide receiver as you noted but i also drafted him last year and he did very little consistently up until he got hurt so i do wonder if maybe that. Adp will correct itself little bit as we get closer and closer to this field. Can i ask a real quick question because they were moving on here. Other than those who pass catchers. You basically ever shot higgins and donovan people's jones. Neither of those guys are guys that you really targeting redraft leaks. But i don't think so interesting donovan people's jones do you like him. He's getting a little. Bit of actually like higgins interrupt. I do so higgins. Is they reside in this off season. He's back for one more year. But what's interesting about the browns. An again turn into salary cap. But the browns have a lot of players who are young about to get paid paid like myles. Garrett baker needs to get paid at some point. Nick nick just got paid. They got a lot of money currently sunk into two wide receivers. Odell and jarvis landry. At some point you're going to have to make difficult decisions across your roster. Those are two players that are often speculated upon as potential trade or lease candidates. Down the line not right now. So i mentioned that only because a year from now this wide receiver group could look very very different. I don't have like i grew. Higgins is my favorite. Because i know the most about them at the same time he could also be gone a year from jeb. Like the one of the last picking dynasty league graph was anthony schwartz. Yep a rookie at auburn that they like a lot like i can fly. He can absolutely fly so like that's a guy that i'm stashing. And our dynasty lead a year from now. Maybe he something. The bill eventually comes due in the browns who have a lot of success..
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"The matter of time isn't it. Yeah just just the fact. That wasn't hugh jackson was in the news today. Actually it was complaining. Yeah basically complaining. They didn't really get a fair shot. Fair i mean he. He only went to is about to turn one winning two seasons. Yeah yeah that's the way. I think he's got the farish shot of anybody ever. Yes jeff fisher. Have had the most fair shots shena tim couch she got. You put through the ringer too long. How many names do you think you can name on the on the famous jersey. Go hugh jackson says. Brown's ownership lied to him about the rebuilding process. I guess he thought we know miss coach to buddy use browser of lying about the nature of the rebuilding processing cleveland. Jackson said jackson said in cleveland that the extent to which the decision makers would use wasn't as close to him when he took the job. There's no doubt. I was lied to by ownership and leadership of the team. Jackson said they were going to be football plus analytics but it was football verse. Analytics jackson said he plans to publish. A book about is experiencing cleveland story. He says hasn't been accurately told. I think i became the fall guy because that was the narrative the truth needs to come out for other minority coaches. They need to know the pitfalls out there. My story has affected some of their futures jackson set. Jackson said he signed a contract extension. The middle of the twenty seventeen season when the browser owen eight and had gone one in fifty in the year before but has them wouldn't announced the deal. I got a contract extension at one and twenty three midway through the season. Jackson said our to go public with it but the browns didn't i can't imagine why little doubt that deserves a fair amount of the blame for the browns lack of success since he bought the team. But the reality is a lot of coaches have come and gone since has on bought. The browns and none has had as bad a record as jackson. Yeah it's today nerds and nerd sucked at it too. They both suck. The nerd sucked sucked. You start saying you. Under the impression that this wasn't like a results based in distract. You thought that you know they'll just let me go through two seasons about winning games. I'm curious how how the how a contract talks wet like well. You did manage to win a game but you also have lost twenty three others and your own eight this season but sure no. Let's talk about next to you. That's a great idea. Yeah no definitely. We'll definitely put together the contract extension for next year. We're just Let's let's not tell anybody about it. Do you think his about jumping in. The lake was part of that contract negotiation. He like make that part of his deal. He's like why i'll do this. But you guys won't say anything..
"browns" Discussed on Patriots Dynasty Podcast
"Good davis not the worst quarterback ever had. I mean i guess randers and randers right now. There are so many weeden is gotta be up there. The old rookie. Yup i mean the. We didn't even mention the drive. The expansion restart brown nineteen eighty seven. Let's unpack to the first round to right and then the very next year. They're playing the broncos again and they're and they're about to go for score and earn his buyer Binder fumbles at the line with like a clear path into the end zone. Yachts and tough. Look that when could be the worst one ever. cincinnati two thousand eleven week one. Cincinnati backup quarterback bruce. Greg hausky the one who actually started for the cleveland. Browns notice that the cleveland defense is slow the huddle and those russia's to the line and quick snaps the ball for an easy go ahead touchdown to win twenty seven seventeen when gronkowski hausky started for our cleveland browns loss. Thirty one nothing to get beat by quarterback who couldn't play quarterback for you tough look there's the Recent game in nineteen against the patriots with the three turnovers from nick. Chubb in in the rain had that nice long run is about to score. And after fumbled the first nap of the game or whatever and then it's punched out and then he has that screen pass it and in the base kicked in the face he on the first quarter. They had a the shovel pass. Intercepted shovel pass interception. Yup was bad shadow to can we Get some this guy to put this together. Yes i think we should they. We're pulling these from a list of every browns loss since nineteen ninety nine ranked. So this this guy yes. This is a name. Andy i n i n c k. Let's nick spelled incorrectly. He went through and rank them all hundred. Eighty six losses. Yeah there's a lot of these two thousand fifteen season so there's definitely more ever since then but ninety nine to twenty fifteen so there should be some since then but he's he's gone through. It is worth arrayed. I mean you can just look. You can say brown's losses ranked if you want to go through and like put a single game. We'll put a thing in the shown us a link for the. Yeah and it's it's it's thorough. It's vero it's depressing. You'll laugh you'll cry and not want to be a browns fan. I don't know though. I don't know this is the year. This is the year yet. Yeah i agree coming off a playoff in coming off battling the chiefs to the last drive of the game. Right the steelers. Are you know. Ben roethlisberger wicked old. Yep we'll be back. Oh yeah this is the year i can feel like. I can't whoa wait until they fall. And some creative way this year..
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"They got the yardage that like the random yardage that the offense of lyman ran and then plus fifteen yards twenty yard field goal. Lose it on the last play of the game. Forty two thirty nine and there's a forty one yard play that lateral so so lucky. It was also also the faculty to get that many blame dwayne for celebrating their. Yeah no exactly but this is just one of those stereo typical losses that as a browns fan. Just tears your heart because you will that close and it almost almost lost technicality. You know team week. One start the season really well was just finding creative ways to lose games. you know. we'll just losing regular normally get your aspect. Whatever but to get a sack that was it actually a sack with a flick with a run with a penalty attack don. It's just just silliness in two thousand hundred. Cleveland browns team that went nine and seven nuts where they made the playoffs played. The pittsburgh steelers lost thirty six thirty three in the game. Greg talked him but they win. they were. They opened the season with that win. Maybe there are ten and six maybe They're not playing the wildcard. Maybe they're playing second round the playoffs. You know who knows you never know what could have been but because as we all know not. A fan of referees referee zandi not a fan of referees out as a browns fan may be the worst loss in browns. History is against jacksonville in two thousand and one week. Fourteen browns sitting at five hundred six six looking to keep their playoff hopes alive looking at try. Get in the playoffs for the first time in a long time down. Fifteen to ten sixty eight seconds left in the game. Browns are driving greg's boy. Tim couch tim sofa. Tim said he whatever you'd like to call them. Looks like he appears to complete a three yard. Throw to quincy morgan on fourth and to jacksonville. Twelve setting up first and goal right clocks tick tick tick tick tick tick couch. Hurries everybody to lines spikes ball boom after we spikes the ball terry mcaulay the the head referee signals that the morgan completion before the spike is under review. Even though and dude at the rule is yeah once another player has run the play before. Care like it's over. That's you've seen teams like the patriots start running re running as soon as a questionable. 'cause we runs up and just like tries to run a play real quick to to get that second playoff before the play can be reviewed. This exactly what happened. But the referees reasoning is that the replay booth buzzing before the spike play was run but he had to confirm it with another official. That the buzz. It happened before the play was run. And so of course this being the browns. They reviewed the play.
"browns" Discussed on Patriots Dynasty Podcast
"No there's no fair weather fans in cleveland browns are. There's no fairweather. No no it wouldn't be leaving a game no matter how bad they be one thousand two wildcard. Remember this one of the only playoff games on this list your steelers endings. Thirty six thirty three down. Twenty four seven comeback twenty nine points nineteen minutes in the game. The browns are up twenty four seven with gord in the third quarter as tough. It's one of those early. Two thousands playoff gains fields. all muddy. everyone says browns-steelers smash mouth. They just they were up. Led the whole game and chris format to ma five hundred and twenty seven yard scrimmage no touchdowns in the regular season in the whole season. Last fullback is one bad foul. He had he has more apostrophes in his last name than he had touchdowns on the season. He has more than one pasta. Yeah that's what i'm saying. And then he's the one that's going to score the touchdown and then ran tom and l. frozen two point conversion to see what's neutral browse never even snuff unbelievable whole contra for like four hundred yards in that game though he did and they some tom. There's a bunch of chipping before the before the game started as well is just. It was just tough especially the playoffs. You know it makes it so much. Yeah i mean because some of these are big blowouts. Some of them are are like will. So which would you say is worse getting blown out. Even if it's at home on monday night or europe big and you you lose in comeback fashion like a twenty eight to three. Yeah i think you lose big. You know because that's worse it's all sort of blend together eventually and it's really painful losses that stick with you right. Yeah okay. that's what i'm saying. Yeah and especially. I think it adds more to when it's the playoff game as well off the playoffs either. Both of those are worse than the playoffs are worse in both of those. You know just in general. Because i don't think this'll be a top ten loss if if it was in the playoffs. It's just another. They lost nineteen the loss of twenty four seven lead. It's worse their next game on the list. Two thousand one week. Eight chicago bears in overtime. Twenty seven twenty one. I remember this game up. Twenty one seven one minute to play air score thirty seconds left recovered the onside kick sensing trend here and then convert a thirty four yard. Hail mary as time expires title. Game tight right but it gets worse like so. Let's put this senator perspective. You're leading twenty one seven with a minute to play sixty seconds and you're.
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"Still happening. You explain that steve. They just joking about global warming back in the drew carey show. Did you re watch an episode recently. No there's always stuck with me. He's like that stuck with u stakes takes. The air freshener can spray outside and being like. Where's this global warming. I heard about you know. My favorite jokes are the ones checking that greg beautiful find. It looks like you man. I'm not even sure if this is true but this was fantastic radio so this is typical browns radio. I think you might be right. Steve era go. I don't know what year this was but drew carey on global warming. I love cleveland. The weather is just terrible there to called all. Cleveland is where the hell's all that global warming we've been hearing so much about. Oh it's all they were doing the winter stand. Outside with an aerosol can That's right the grandkids. I'm called now that like the show. It's just the dead frog dot com slash comedian slash joke slash drew carey. Where a source podcast that yet. He's just taking that joke from his show that that was the exact joke in the show or arizona fucked grandkids cold now that fox news games. Yes so steven. You have three games to choose the to present today. Is that correct. Yes i all right. Where are we starting then. I believe growing us back greg. All right so greg. Bring us back to fill ninety nine. Okay the inaugural vintage year week one. Who started the same now the first game back in the nfl browns after they left us. Yeah the main night and drew carey. Was there speaking of the devil. Hyping up the pre-game monday night game against the steelers. And he's like rivalry back. If anybody wants to make jokes about cleveland you tell them to shot off and then they lost forty three to nothing..
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"browns" Discussed on Buccaneers Observer
"A remember backward dearest taylor used to be thurs clinton and then cincinnati related to do everything was kind of bad but he just was not good yeah. That's kind of the feeling i'm getting from here from the browns source like he's probably insane but he could be on the bubble. Mac wilson is like a surefire. Definitely gonna make the roster. He's their fifth round pick in. He's right it behind christian kirksey on the <unk> char so that's the middle linebacker i now. I'm gonna budget in the name of the thing that i think. Is that sean or ars that seon say it so i won. It's terrible tacky tackiest his last name japanese i know why are there no japanese football players. I want to play football do they. Preferable louise got every nationality representatives about any gas. I bet you can find one japanese player. They're like in the history of the n._f._l. I don't know as far as not available one javanese football player ever in the league rookie nakamura aw he played for the ravens and the panthers two thousand eight hundred thirteen. That's just off the top of my head yet. Japanese's don't play football gloaming <unk>. Hardly any asia pacific islanders defies silly of size is saying the ages davitti is kind of small. It seemed like they'd make good would like wide receivers of quarterbacks nab probably. Are you ready to give back to the browns. Both i still have this name. I can't say surrounding really <unk> ticky tacky tacky tacky techy techy to you a. k. I t. a. k. I in any case he's been their best blitzer on the team and he's a run stuffer but he's had a lingering hamstring injury. So that's the strike against him would <unk>. He's a re-sign where they brought him back for special teams but he's also <unk> improvement in his run defense so he's probably safe but you never know and and then they've got the bottom tier guys willy heartbe undrafted rookie although he's shown flashes of ability on tape and <unk> a._t._a.'s but he's probably not going to make it. Anthony stobbs is another one. He's basically auditioning for the last spot on the practice squad. He has really gotten on a whole lot of chances either and then dietrich young undrafted rookie. He's almost definitely ending cuts but so they have this big battle with their linebackers backers. There's lot uncertainty there and then they have the scottish hammer. Have you heard about this guy nickname. Yes okay calm. The scottish humor either punter that they brought in a compete with colquitt coke leads thirty four just a little bit i think and he was an undrafted free agent and supposedly it was courted by up to twenty teams so he's a punter kicker supposedly recorded by two thousand eighteen..
"browns" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader
"I mean, there was really no decision. I mean, listen, we looked at what he lies is a player and said is well worth the money. The guys putting out fires. That's always trying. And. Doing more five. His create more fights because he's insulting of people's intelligence. And it's like it's this not years ago when he came into the league, this people a savvy the thing, they have something called the internet. They have something called social media when he can get a lot of information. They could get players chirp lot players talk. You it's a different world. Now, the fan base really is dial didn't engage and smart and have access to information that didn't have years ago. I think gallows will old school. I think he's all slick I think he talks out of both sides of his mouth for show up and is insult the people's intelligence and he's bottom line, and he's just walking around a fire station. Well, but I mean task it. Okay. He's put he's also. I mean, why not just be open and honest, why not just be a case of you don't wanna show week this. That's what I think it is. It is a really show weakness to say that you need better from Eli. When it was asked that question test and say, well, listen as an organization. We weren't exactly sure where we're gonna go at the end of the season. We looked at the way that we went back and watch the game film. We analyze what was going to be available via free agency or trade as an option a quarterback. And right now ally manning is our best option to win and to win in two thousand nineteen is our best option at quarterback for the giants in two thousand nine hundred. What's the problem saying that there's honesty there's no problem? And that's basically what the giants dead, but to circle back to the backup thing it's the same thing with that. It's like one minute. He says that we didn't pay this money to trade if they get rid of them. And then they turned around the deal. They're trying to deal, right? He's trying to act like that sound bite. We heard like moose. It's like I was just an offer. I couldn't refuse. It's like he was just sitting back and Beckham he's on all team. He's a giant. But yet there's offer came in and they just couldn't refuse you search the officer. You did so called the Buffalo Bills. And you you you want them to work a deal out with the belt? And the San Francisco forty trash. That's right. So he's trying to deal the. Why would he call every team? At that stage. And you've come to a decision. All right. Let's see where the value is for Becca. We've got a ways to go tasks we've got a lot of needs. We're tearing it down. Why not then call every single team outside the NFC east? You're train them. The eagles. You're not trading. The redskins. You're not trading. Dallas cowboys. Why would you then call every other team in the National Football League? If the Browns gave you an offer you couldn't refuse. Maybe there was another team. Me give you maybe there was another team that was so desperate that was willing to give you even more. So hang on. So he called the Niners. He called the bills who else to call the Browns and the Browns the Browns Dorsey so spills at forty nine Brown's got the second pick. Maybe this is water and the bills got the ninth pick babies trying to get teams that he could work something out what what the drive, but no going to give you the number two or the number nine selection, and that kind of a trade the Browns gave you the seventeenth selection. But maybe you could get a future first round. Right. Maybe maybe maybe you could get a maybe you could get a pick from you know, who knows? I mean, maybe the Jacksonville Jaguars rolls. When love to add an old L Becker. Their offense is I don't know financially whether or not they could access with that because they're paying a lot of their defensive stars amount of money, and they just gave foles eight million dollars over the course of the next four years. So I mean, but TASR why wouldn't you do your due diligence with that dad compound it, and then you bring up the Landon Collins scenario planning who walks out of the so the idea of you don't give up on talent, you don't walk away. So he said, well, we didn't give up on talent. Because I got three assets for one, right? I traded Odell Beckham junior. I get the seventeenth pick the ninety six and I got Gebreel peppers or starting safety is going to step in for Landon Collins. However, if you as an organization already made the decision that you were not going to sign the Collins to a long term deal, and you're not gonna franchise him after the season. And you were offered a fourth round draft choice for Collins last NFL trade deadline. Why would you not trade him? He comes out with this explanation yesterday that that would. Send the wrong message to the team. Dave, you got the sick Stovall pet heap stakes you you to build it. Help the mess. Wouldn't that be? But here's the deal won't that be the right? If you did not want to sign him tasks, listen, I want that actually be the right message to send because it would be a case of wealth. They could trae Landon Collins then nobody's job. Nobody's safe. Right. Nobody said, yeah. I think it would be if you as a message. I'm not signing him. And that was the giants decision that it was too rich for their blood. They weren't gonna franchise them. They weren't gonna sign them. And they didn't make that decision. Two days before the tag. They made that decision basically a couple of months ago. Of course. So you knew at that stage. Probably by the NFL trade deadline tasks they had an idea moving forward. The season was over Caesar was loss of what not gonna do one depth night necessarily not have been the wrong message put the right message to send now only that isn't that. The smart business decision to trade. Landon Collins and not let them walk out the door to add that to a head scratcher that too. I mean. You know, I feel like get up in the movies making and I'll tell you just in the New York area. I mean, people are not exactly doing backflips over of what's been going on with him really seriously like, and and again, the Beckham thing to me besides and I love I love these guys. Yeah. Okay. They're gone now. But the Beckham things just I'll I just don't I don't I'll never understand that. This guy is a guy that I feel you want to retire him in your jersey you want to put him once he goes into the hall of fame. You want him to go in as a New York Giants. And whenever his off field stuff is it's nowhere near like Antonio Brown. Was you gotta work that out you Sherm, discipline wise. It's gotta be worked out whatever the hell happened there. I think it's just they didn't like him. And he didn't like them. I just take some disdain that. That's what I can take. Why the giants grow tired and frustrated by the act, and they just wanted to get rid of it. And wanted the focus to be on the field. Well, not all this nonsense off the football field task. That's what the giants did. I think ultimately that's why they made the decision to make the trade. And they got a trade that they were comfortable and making impairing off Odell Beckham junior, but the gallon wants to tell you it's purely a football decision to hear from you at eight five five two one two four CBS eight five five two one two four two two seven should the giants be more transparent about ally. And the Odell trade want to hear from you. It's task to the moose on this Tuesday morning right here. CBS.
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"My what are you? What do you think of me proposing a year away from football a second chance? And and then that is a and you have to go through a full protocol. In terms of rehabbing yourself in regular therapy. Absolutely. Absolutely. I would be all on board with that. And I'm sure a lot of players in owners probably would be as well. I think he at least set precedent. And know exactly what is is in your way. If you commit this crime. If there is this kind of crime of abuse that there is something in that says this you're gonna miss an entire year. You're not going to be around the players. You're not gonna be able to practice. You not get paid leave. You are out of the league for a year. And then, you know, let's come back to this and reassess this problem again, but I Mali I totally agree with what you're saying. Because right now, we just don't know there's so many balls in the air. You just don't know was it is it going to be six months. Is it going to be seven months how how long will he be punished for? This this incident. I think it should be listening. Here's a structure, let's move forward. Molly. I like your idea of the year. I think it is firm and yet it does allow for second chances. And let's face it. Sure. There's video evidence of what he did. And then he wasn't forthright at first and all that. But at least he didn't gently point out in a perfectly not only legal way. But along with the rules of the NFL that people of color have always been treated fairly in this country for that you get a lifetime, man. Max, I appreciate that. That's still an important point and important issue. But I do think it muddies the waters on this particular issue where we need to answer some very difficult question. Why hold on because I think this is important on this particular issue. It was clarified for me. And I want to be clear. The producers told me this. I didn't the commissioners nonexempt list, you still get paid. So it is it is raise pitied. But here's the thing. Molly. Here's the thing. Getting paid right now you're saying well Darren would be better to answer that question and when you get paychecks in the NFL during the off season he's now. Right now. Right. When the season starts from the Cleveland Browns. But here's the catch. And I'm not trying to be in the flying the open. It's just easy. Conclusions are hard to arrive at do you punch. Somebody by not paying them when you are still unsure and your investigative process. I understand there's a video with cream hunt. We also we saw. But the idea that something is under investigation means it hasn't arrived at a conclusion, we'll verdict, but do you pay some real? Pizzas. Let me just add another detail. There was the bar fight. Correct. Me if I'm wrong also with Kareem hunt this off season that they're also investigating. And then he also lied to Kansas City about what happened. I would say this will I understand what you mean about it muddies the waters because this is a serious issue that should be dealt with on its own particulars. But really what we're talking about here. And the reason some people have a problem with bring up the question is this too soon you even brought up should the should teams. Even take a look before this has been concluded before the league is investigated. Believe will you brought that up Molly Darrin Molly did. But so so the reason we're asking those questions is because the league has put an emphasis on this in order to demonstrate the values that they think are important as the league. And my point is simply it's difficult for people to take them seriously about this being an important value for them in light of capper, Nick, I think that issue looms over the league as it results to who gets second chances. Oh capture Nick did anything wrong, which he didn't. And who doesn't who plays in the NFL? And who doesn't what values does does the NFL hold most? Dear. Apparently this issue does not rank as high as not standing for the national..
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"That's how he swayed, and that's no way to run a business. It's not. And I think that he was one of those guys it's not only that he's not been able to hire people well or see it through. But I think that like so much of Cleveland, he has a glass half empty meal if things, and I think that all of the negativities the Cleveland history has served real it can be very destructive in the building and accelerate things. And you know, I think that that to a certain extent played into it. Also, just you know, things get so bad, especially those two years, you know, where Sasha and Hugh, I mean, those were bad, here's 'cause you know. Everybody knew the Browns. We're gonna lose. They ended up losing worse than they even expected you and then they were fighting over why and band that get ugly? You can follow him on Twitter at Seth wicker Shem ESPN the magazine Seth bookish join in Spain and fits and Seth. I mean, Freddie, kitchens was a debate, Sarah. And I had as we were trying to figure out if this was the smartest thing the Browns have done or just the Browns being the Browns in hiring somebody that wasn't even almost radars. Just a few months ago. Did you get any sense when you were going through the process of putting this article together, did you get any sense of sort of Freddie, kitchens in and why he should feel or why fans should feel more secure about where the franchise is going. Well, he did it. I'd rebel job is offensive coordinator through the last eight games of the season. I know they were very smart people around the league where it kinda wondering why he didn't get more interest as a head coach from other teams. But at the end of the day, I think that you know, what matters a lot. I think is much as his ability as a coach. And his ability to put Baker Mayfield in a successful position. Is the fact that he and John Dorsey has to make this work together. I think that is a big deal because again, so many of these guys have gone down not only because of losing. But because of just the unbelievable infighting in that building, and you know, that contributes it's just it just does there's no way around it. And that creates a very toxic actress fear and makes it impossible to win. And I also think it'll be interesting to see how they handle Baker because you saw like with the Washington Redskins a couple years ago. We're Dan Snyder falls in love with RG three owners love to fall in love with franchise quarterbacks and that can become very dangerous. Also where the quarterback ends up undermining everybody else on the team. Would you give the same answer to Browns fans after doing all the research and writing this as you would have before when they asked you if they should be hopeful about going forward. Yeah. Because the quarterback hasn't changed. Only gotten better. I think the question would be, you know, can they keep him getting better? And can't they keep him, you know, defensive. We're going to have a year to study him. And can they keep him a head of the game? And you know that to be. Is going to be going to be vital. But again, it's like whatever reason it happened. Whether it was luck talent, the floods hit of all the station. They ended up with a guy who looks like he could be a legit franchise quarterback. The guy is unique player his person, and he could be a fixture and icon in that city and the only thing besides injuries that could get his way is the team's history. That to me is going to be the most fascinating thing to watch the next couple of years. Be sure to check.
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"Welcome to Spain. And fits the podcast. Sometimes you find about out about dysfunction in championship culture, and it rocks your world, but other times, you can still find out about this function where it already exists, and you knew it existed, but just reading about it still shakes you to your core. That is where Cleveland Browns fans are right now. Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio the ESPN app. Siriusxm channel eighty Sarah. Spain Jason Fitz. Look, there's one reason everybody wants to talk about the Browns ad nauseam and has because there's this feeling of hope or around the quarterback situation. And there's this feeling that things have gotten better. But there's also this reminder that is much as we want to believe in the hype around Baker Mayfield in the future of the Browns. There is a level of dysfunction that has gotten the franchise to where it is right now Seth Wicker's from does a great job breaking it down. It's on the dot com right now. And when you read the inside story of the Cleveland Browns dysfunction is. Even worse to read than I thought, it would be in my mind yet, you know, I think talking about the dysfunction of the Browns was a bit like rubber necking a car crash over the last however long because it was apparent via their record the turnover at the coaching position. The the the flubs whether they be getting fined for texting on the sidelines or the amount of money that they owed coaches that they had let go mid contract all of it. Now, it feels like this is a particularly interesting dive into an organization because there is hope and because looking at having a resource like Baker Mayfield and looking at having a coach who managed despite all the overwhelming weight of failure. There to look competent to bring them victories to make good on the talent that they had all of those pieces then make this a hopeful time for Browns fans until you question whether or not they can really overcome. What is still a management and organizational? Head that has brought upon himself. And this franchise so much failure of late like has them still there. Right. And so if this what you and I have been talking about we were trying to figure out whether this was a good coaching position that people would want or not sure it looks like it draft picks, Baker, etc. But it's really still a poop Sunday with just a cherry on top until you can figure out whether that stench is gone and whether they've moved into a fully new era. Well, and I think the ownership portion of it is the most defeating portion of it because you we've joked before and really tried to educate people before you can really despise your team's coach your team's GM the players you cannot like your favorite your favorite teams quarterback. You can go across the board and be mad at any of these positions. Knowing full, well, there's an opportunity that it will change. You can't do anything about ownership being bad at their job. And that's what we what I think the deep dive Seth wicker Shim does such a nice job. And he's the guy that sort of broke into so much information around the patriots. And it was it was I opening. It's still I opening when you see what the has the ownership group of the Browns is incapable of doing and sort of the repetition that they go through the cycle. They go through of repeating their own mistakes to appoint that it falls on deaf ears. I mean culture has to be fixed. And I don't know how you fix a culture where the ownership assertive tone deaf to the issue and continues to make the same mistakes. Well, the thing is though fits if you look if you sort of read between the lines here, the aren't the exact same mistakes. What's what's continuous there? And what's consistent is that has them is not willing to see anything through long enough. He's willing to buy into a plan, but not patient enough to see if it pays off an I, of course, totally related when it got to the point where he said he was reaching out to other people who had helped turn around failure or had used rebuilds in in a in a beneficial land. One of them was the with the cubs when deal obscene came in. And and cubs fans knew there was going to be a rebuild. It was inevitable that midway through that a year to win when you're looking at a..
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"So that's the meteoric leap that happens from the while we drafted somebody. We think it can be great. Wow. Now we've seen him play a little bit. He can be great now. All of a sudden, I think that you're looking at a Browns fan base that realistically says, okay? This should be an eight team that's in the playoff conversation. That's where their mindset is. We haven't seen a Browns coach deal with that level of expectation. While also having the expectation to continue to develop Baker Mayfield, one of the interesting things as we've seen this trend of offense minded coach is taking over is whether or not ownership. GM's people who are doing the hiring are conflicting the offensive coordinator job with the head coach job, and the and the responsibilities of it. Right. Whether or not these people are suited to not only working with the quarterback developing a quarterback being creative offensive minded guy. But also running a team being the CEO of a full team and balancing all those responsibilities. You mentioned already maybe this takes him away from his one on one work with Baker Mayfield. And obviously the reason that he's getting this gig in part is his ability to work well with quarterbacks he was the quarterback coach for Arizona. When Carson Palmer set the franchise record in touchdowns in passing yards in two thousand fifteen. This is a guy who since he took over for the Browns weeks nine through seventeen the Browns averaged six point nine yards per play. The two thousand ramps are the only team since the merger to average more over a full season. It is a small sample size. But this is a guy who's focus was just on. How do I get the most? This quarterback. How do I get the most out of this offense in in just a couple of weeks? And now we're seeing him. Okay. Now, you run everything. And that's the most interesting part to me. We'll get into that a little bit more to is this idea of what they're looking for new coaches, and whether these young inexperienced, but potentially creative guys are ready for the job of being CEO in Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio coming up. What are we actually know about the coaches that have been hired so far we'll try to figure it out next benefits Spain and fits all sorts of coaches being named the head coach positions in the NFL. Couple jobs still open. We'll keep you up to date the very minute. We hear about the dolphins the jets and the Bengals. But in case you were asleep. Today, we got two more in the Browns hiring, Freddie kitchens and the Broncos hiring Vic Fangio, which brings us to a couple of very young dudes that seem to be hired in the hopes that they turn into the next Sean McVeigh, we've got a couple of veterans and Bruce Arians and Vic fan. Jio and fits the through line for all of these Spain and fits by the way with both of us Spain and fits together again on ESPN radio ESPN app, and Sirius XM channel eighty the through line is that all of these coaches, so far have not been minority coaches. And we're going to have mean it comes on to talk about this with a lot of insight from some really well done stories about why the NFL which is seventy percent black players would have such a dearth of minority coaches. But I I wanna talk about it right now specifically in regards to Steve Wilks and the cardinals because I'm just curious if you think there's any way that this is a guy who. Having gotten one year with a rookie quarterback and a team that doesn't have a lot of talent on it. If the same exact thing would happen to a cliff Kingsbury coming in. And and and if so if you believe that like, I do that Kingsbury will get a longer leash why? And how has he earned it in a way that Wilkes didn't think Kingsbury this point has to get a longer lease than Wilkes just because you can't back to back one and done on coaches. But you know, I've decided, and you know, this will enough about me at this point that I'm sort of like if you go into a financial guy, and you have to fill out your risk profile, and you're like how how risk averse my like, I'm so scared of of change..
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"Forward to they have to take and how quickly for us to deem kitchens as a success. Well, I think they're going to have to take a step a pretty substantial step this this season because the difference between this Brown's organization and the Browns organization the past is they have hope hope is what comes with a young quarterback so wins. Yeah. Ex exactly and expectations. Come with young quarterback. I mean Baker Mayfield going out and winning six games. Next year is not going to be acceptable Browns fans there that's the meteoric leap that happens from the while we drafted somebody. We think it can be great. Wow. Now we've seen him play a little bit. He can be great now. All of a sudden, I think that you're looking at a Browns fan base that realistically says, okay? This should be an eighteen that's in the playoff conversation. That's where their mindset is. We haven't seen a Browns coach deal with that level of expectation. While also having the expectation to continue to develop Baker Mayfield, one of the interesting things as we've seen this trend of offense of minded coach is taking over is whether or not ownership. GM's people who are doing the hiring are conflicting the offensive coordinator job with the head coach job, and the and the responsibilities of it. Right. Whether or not these people are suited to not only working with the quarterback developing a quarterback being creative offensive minded guy. But also running a team being the CEO of a full team and balancing all those responsibilities. You mentioned already maybe this takes him away from his one on one work with Baker Mayfield. And obviously the reason that he's getting this gig in part is his ability to work well with quarterbacks he was the quarterback coach for Arizona. When Carson Palmer set the franchise record in touchdowns in passing yards in two thousand fifteen. This is a guy who since he took over for the Browns weeks nine through seventeen the Browns averaged six point nine yards per play. The two thousand Rams are the only team since the merger to average more over a full season. It is a small sample size. But this is a guy whose focus was just on. How do I get the most? This quarterback. How do I get the most out of this offense in in just a couple of weeks? And now we're seeing him. Okay. Now, you run everything. And that's the most interesting part to me. We'll get into that a little bit more to is this idea of what they're looking for new coaches, and whether these young inexperienced, but potentially creative guys are ready for the job of being CEO it Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio coming up. What are we actually know about the coaches that have been hired so far we'll try to figure it out next benefits Spain and fits all sorts of coaches being named the head coach positions in the NFL. Couple jobs still open. We'll keep you up to date the very minute. We hear about the dolphins the jets and the Bengals. But in case you were asleep. Today, we got two more in the Browns hiring, Freddie kitchens and the Broncos hiring Vic Fangio, which brings us to a couple of very young dudes that seem to be hired in the hopes that they turn into the next Sean McVeigh, we've got a couple of veterans and Bruce Arians and Vic fan. Jio and fits the through line for all of these Spain and Fitz, by the way with both of us Spain and fits together again on ESPN radio ESPN app, and Sirius XM channel eighty the through line is that all of these coaches, so far have not been minority coaches. And we're going to have mean at times on to talk about this with a lot of insight from some really well done stories about you know, why the NFL which is seventy percent black players would have such a dearth of minority coaches. But I I wanna talk about it right now specifically in regards to Steve Wilks and the cardinals because I'm just curious if you think there's any way that this is a guy who. Having gotten one year with a rookie quarterback and a team that doesn't have a lot of talent on it. If the same exact thing would happen to a cliff Kingsbury coming in..
"browns" Discussed on The ThomaHawk Show
"Listen, we've got breaking news. We interrupt this program to let you know that the Browns Chris Chris Mortensen. The more report is reporting that the Cleveland Browns are going to announce Freddie kitchens as the head coach of the Cleveland Browns. A lot of things I'm not even saying this, right? Because for context, we we film this podcast a podcast was done. And then the news broke. So we are adding this and Freddie kitchens is the new head coach of the Cleveland Browns. Joe Thomas, give me your immediate thoughts. Well, another head coaching vacancy that yours truly has correctly assigned the coach to I'm starting to wonder if maybe I'm like, the Scott Boris agent, NFL coaches because I just keep getting these things right? But all joking aside. I think it's a tremendous higher. It seems like it is the perfect situation for everybody in that organization. They've gotten a chance to see FREDDY kitchens. His personality. See how we leads see what is offense looks like. And they've gotten a full year trial run, which is great. You know, I think when you hire a head coach there's so many unknowns. But when you hire a guy from within your organization, a lot of those unknowns are gone out the window. Now, clearly when he takes over as head coach it'll be a role he hasn't had before. So there's still some some question marks. But it's going to be a lot less than if you go outside the organization and hire somebody. Plus they've got an opportunity to keep this momentum going the momentum that they build during the season the goodwill that they've built between Freddie, kitchens and Baker Mayfield. This gives Baker and opportunity in a second season not have to start all over again with a new head coach in a new offense. And the big question that remains for me is who is Freddie kitchens going to hires? His defensive coordinator Gregg obvious answer is going to be Greg Williams. It's always a little bit tricky when you interview somebody for your head coach or when he's been interim head coach to go and basically. Demote him and put him back to being defensive coordinator. But a guy like Greg Williams who has as much experience as he does in the NFL who's been a head coach before who seems to be very happy and satisfied in Cleveland. He loves Cleveland. He loves coaching for the Browns. It seems like him. And Freddie kitchens worked really well together. If anybody could make it work, you would think Greg Williams would be the guy that could step back and become that defensive coordinator again and keep this good feeling moving that they've got right now in Cleveland. I think it's good. And maybe that's what sucks so long. Maybe they're trying to work that out like maybe they're trying to secure great Williams, the defensive coordinator to stay there with Freddie kitchens. Keep things in place. The Browns played really really good down the stretch. And for a guy like Baker Mayfield who broke rookie records and exceeded everybody's expectations. It was super important to the organization to keep that in place keep that environment where he thrived just the way it is give them another year to develop give him another year to grow build the chemistry with the coaches with the players and everybody who bought in. And things are looking up with the Cleveland Browns. I'm really excited about this higher. I think they made the right move. We said it from the beginning that, you know, it's a it's a hard hard thing to winning Cleveland as two guys who played for this organization who are still very close to the organization. We've seen coaches come in and out players in and out for an office guys in and out in no one has had the ability to successfully win in that organization. So when these guys put together the resume they did at the end to show. Hey, we have the formula. It's hard to go against that. You don't go outside of that. And go higher known you go with the people who have proven and have on their resume that they have one in Cleveland. Yeah. We got a Baker kitchens in in in Cleveland, just the way it should be just makes too much since the thing..