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Training Camp Day 3 - with George Stoia III
"Will be no death by inches. This is the broncos daily. Putt jazzed with brandon krisztal. I want everything. I want all the meatballs and pasta. Have you friday broncos country. It's always a football friday. Every friday here on the broncos daily podcast but with football practice in full swing. It truly is a football friday. I could pull my notes and go through the highlights of the day and there were a few to try to keep score the quarterback competition. But i can just give you the overall consensus and save everybody. Some time drew lock definitely had a few more wild plays teddy bridgewater kind of even things up. Teddy just doesn't missed too often at the same time. It doesn't take chances down the field so we'll see how things go next week. When they're in pads and they ratchet up the pressure coming off the edges and stuff and certainly when the first team oh line is in there or whatever the first team online looks like you just garrett bowles as the as the barometer garrett bowles and and you know reisner and graham glasgow and cushioned baron. There that's considered the first team. Oh line the receiver cycle through And that gives you guys working with all the different pass catchers but all things being equal. I think lock had a little bit better day. That people tell me that they thought it was more tied today. And if you're keeping score at home that's kinda one one one. If you call today a tie. And i had one person in the building that just going to be good enough for drew. Lock to win it because you know you're going to have with teddy and think so much of this defense that it won't matter drew. Lock upside if he can't have enough consistency the consistency. That teddy has even. When it's underneath yesterday stretches a field. He had a beautiful pass. In seven. On seven to k j hamblur. You can see that It's out on social media the play of the day. And the broncos posted the video of it if i'm not mistaken and so that looked good and j. Judy just looks good whenever he has the ball in his hands in fact let's hear vic fangio before we get to george story in just a few minutes hour we're gonna hear from no offence dalton rising as well but here's vanja when i him about jerry judean how he looks in your to cause for more standing. He looks really damn good. He's a lot more polished than better more prepared to play right now than he was last year knows the game. Better got a ville. What the nfl. Football's the lake making the adjustment from college. The pro you know. He had limited time to do that last year. No preseason games and he had an up and down rookie year some great moments bad moments and i think those have really helped shaped him and he's had a really good off season and it's carried over to camp whether it's getting the ball to jerry judy and sometimes is it easier just to throw the ball and let him go. Make play because we saw him catch a little curl route. Stop route curl route. Shake bryce callahan and pick up a huge gain or maybe even get all the way to the end zone depending on if he can make the safety and vixen yet but a lot of that is dictated by covered. You can't just force the ball to him. But once sutton healthy and fat jerry. Judy is going to be a problem. And i know we told you about last year last year. Dicing up second third team guys. That barely made the leaguer. Were aren't in the league anymore now. He's doing it against bryce callahan. Pro ball focuses best corner when he was on the field last year. You're gonna ronald darby. Guy that played the most snaps of any corner last year. Just got ten million bucks a year from the broncos for the next three years. He's going against ser tan when his old college teammates on him. He's going against. Kyle fuller doing against anybody that wants to guard him. Jerry judy has been for my money. The true star of in these first three days now vick was also asked about while plays verses mistakes and can you balance a mistake if you have a mistake. Can you offset it with a while. Plane here's vicks answer to that. Yeah to me there about equal. You know I don't know what the intelligent equation with data but one and play. You know that could really affect the game is that. How many the wild place do you need to make to wipe that off the books so And i don't know the answer to that. But yes and of course when you get really anybody on the offense. We didn't ask dalton reisner specifically about the quarterback competition he was asked about do locks facial hair and then he gave a nice compliment about drooping bigger and throwing the ball hard No offense certainly was asked about the quarterback situation and and the quarterback battle so no gave two answers it relates to the quarterbacks. I'll just combine it into one because you'll be able to infer what the question is But the question the first question was i guess. The question is first question. Was how's quarterback battle going so far in the second was are you fine with either one of them and you'll be able to hear his answer with that and see now. We're in theory being a little more efficient. The quarterback competition is going good. I think both quarterbacks are doing great. druce sean jewish. And some really good things ted. He's being a leader. Think you know. Obviously it's not my job shoes. Which was one wins the job but i like i like catching passes from both. I'll be honest with the. I think they're both different in their own way But they're both really good quarterbacks for us so that's what we're writing. I couldn't tell you which one is going to be but it's going to be one of them either one either one. I think i think both those guys have commanded offensive. Well i think both those guys have ability to take us where we want to go so it's just a matter of fact of all us all on the same page and and getting no is right about one thing it is going to be either one of them. It will not be breath ripping star rinat barring any catastrophic injuries and knock on wood that inhabit speaking of injuries might cell did leave practice. I tweeted that happen vic. Fangio said it looks like it's an ankle sprain so that's certainly not a big concern at this time if their surgery or something else along that line then that changes things. But it's not anything related to as liz franken foot thing we don't think and not any other kind of leg injury that could take him out of commission longer so hopefully things with my cellar. Okay and you can get back on the field sooner than later. This also give the guys behind him a chance to really develop or the team developed a true second nose tackle because they don't really have one to this point and that person would lineup plenty against dot riser and speaking of dalton. Reisner mentioned. He talked about drew. Lock facial hair or that he didn't realize drew is starting to grow a beard but also dalton was asked about and this is a kid that grew up in wiggins we know and and broncos fan through and through asked about the frustration with the organization. And joel saying you know we need to win. And so does he think that this team can help reverse the trend of the last five years with the broncos of knob and winning man. I think it's coming together. There's a different feel out here. A different feel out here. Then there's been the last three years and who you know who cares you guys can take that and say who cares. That's fine. we got a week one. And that's exactly what we gotta do it. It's only three training camp. Got a lot of work ahead of us but at the same time like my shirt said you know. We're entitled to nothing just because we're in the nfl just because i've played two years and was drafted as left guard two years ago. I'm not entitled to anything out here. Not entitled to the left guard spot. Heck no come out here every day. And i gotta earn. I earned that spot. And i think that's how our whole team is this year as we all got earn. Our spots ain't no one. is it. nobody coming in here. I use to bad words. My grandma's awful coming in here and just expecting hey man. I'm the starter. I've got this figured out. If you guys you know. I'm sure those guys deserve it. But i mean i feel like a lot of the team. Were showing up and say hey. We gotta earn this. We're not entitled to anything out here. There's a sense of urgency. Like we got to go. So i love it. I think it's been great so far to his question earlier. Yeah we don't have pads on of course when we have just to be more physical but man we're going out here. We're going no gas. No no breaks no breaks. We're going the full go. we have the little. What do they call these things. Spiders the heck does that do pad bros. I mean we're going hardest. Heck out here. we're getting better feels great all right. Let's finish things off with little human interest part of the press conference today that i through the question at noah because we talked to him in june and at that point it had been maybe just around a month less than a month in his since his mom had passed away unexpectedly she got sick and then passed away and he was pretty emotional talking to us then. So that's how. I thought if i was able to get the question. Good way to end the press conference today. And i asked him how he's going now. You know six seven weeks after we talked to him last. You know still just a few months after losing his mom. And then we're done here in this. From noah we will get to george soya from the gazette denver. Colorado springs is that. But here's no on how. He's doing a few months after losing his mother. I'm doing good man. I mean obviously unfortunate. Don't be don't want stuff like that to happen things about our every day. But you know it's a part of life and her and my dad prepared me for these times like this and yeah. I'll be right line on my faith a lot relying on my teammates dalton right there so they've been helping me out a lot man justin's another one talked to quite a bit. They've been helping me out a lot and just being there for me. The yvonne asked me every day on doing asked me what my dad's coming out. So i mean we got some guys on the team in when they all came out and show support at the funeral literally made me tear just because like that's that's the stuff that means the most to me and those guys carrying that much to come all the way to omaha nebraska. That was you so. I'm doing well man. I and you know this isn't gonna be a good one. So i'm excited so it's obvious that he's using his mom's passing to help fuel and i think he said that to last month i know a fan has a chance to be a huge huge tight end star in this league. Let's get to georgetown from the gazette. He's really good on twitter as well. So you if you aren't following george and art reading them in colorado springs gazette and the denver e there. It's a paper in the springs. It's just online here in denver but great stuff all cleese there. Would he pages there as well as their to lead columnists but at george stoa on twitter. He and i have become practiced buddies. Not intentionally but you kind of tend to stand in the same areas and you kinda stand by the same people. So i've been standing by george last few days and i wanted to get him on the podcast. So here's george. Soya from the gazette george. Let's wherever he broncos conversation. These days has to start. With the evaluation of the quarterbacks vic fangio set after the friday practice that he just looked at the first two days and things look about even. And i talked to somebody in the building that they kind of put it at one. One one drew one day one teddy one day to maybe a split day three drew out a couple of wild throws teddy's couple big throws came late. How would you handicap the quarterback competition at this point. Yeah i think that's a pretty good evaluation. I would say i you know. I think that you could argue. That wednesday was pretty. Even i know drew have made me a couple. More touchdown passes Obviously today drew. Had i think the only touchdown pass if i remember correctly But you know ten was obviously. I think the clear winner on thursday so again. I think that Vic is being truthful when he says today that the really hasn't been a whole lot of separation. I think both have had their days. The teddy has been probably the more consistent quarterback which i think we all sort of expected from teddy. We know what we're going to get from teddy on almost every play and he's going to probably check it down. It's going to be a short gain. You know he's taken a few deep throws and really none of them have been You know connected on you know. I think back to the tyree cleveland. Play on the first day In in cleveland probably caught that pass. But that's really the only deep pass these thrown That was really catchable. I mean we saw couple today that You know. I think ronald darby made a play on wine Passer tan made a play on another one. So you know what you're going to get from teddy every single day. Drew has been like drew has been his entire career where he shows today that he throws a fifty yard bomb on a dime to caja hamline. You're like man like if he could just consistently do that. Obviously he'd be a great quarterback but Drew also does things that you question. If he can be the guy i mean he i think we. We all agree that he at times. He's too indecisive. He scrambles a lot which honestly. I don't think it's a bad thing i think. Sometimes he actually Does his best work when he scrambles outside the pocket. But i think we have seen a few times throughout camp that he's held onto the ball but too long but again it's it's day three and like i've been telling people i think This competition while it's it's important that they both play well early in the first few practices. I think it's going to be really a tell when they go to minnesota And how they perform in this joint practices and obviously that first preseason game if we have a pretty close competition all the way through right where they're just kind of trading days and you know you're getting with steady teddy is i think i'm going to start calling him because he's just kind of the same every day and some days that's better than drew and some days. It won't be as good as what drew does. But if it's kind of too close to call where i thought drew was gonna win this job. I guess i'm more convinced that if it stays like this for the next two three weeks. Teddy bridgewater is going to be starting the giants coach. Roy rank twelve beers. Yeah that's the thing is if it does stay like this. I think drew has to separate himself to win this job. Because i think when you look at what. The broncos are playing for this next season. They wanna give back the ploughs. Obviously they've been saying that for quite some time they want to start winning mc fangio Whether you agree or not is is his job on the line. I don't know. I think it is a little bit going into his third year. Obviously he wants to put together a winning season. Make the playoffs. And if it comes down to his choice in his choice only and end. They're pretty even. I think he's going to go with teddy because he knows what he's going to get for teddy like we said we know we're going to get from him every single day. And i think he's the safer choice That's not to say that drew is at the better choice. I think we could all agree that drew can go out there. And if he plays the way that we think he can In the potential diazinon talent that he has This team is looking at maybe eleven. Twelve wins next season with the way schedule. Lines up teddy though. I think you are secure in saying that. They're definitely gonna win seven and probably not more than ten and so that's where the difference comes in is. Do you want to take the risk with drew. Lock or do you want to go with the safe bet And pick a guy like teddy. And so i think you're right in thinking that if it keeps going back and forth where one guy has a good day one guy has a bad day you know. I think teddy is going to be the guy. If that's the case we can't predict the future we know aaron rodgers situations. Maybe a little murkier. Even though i guess he signed that contract that means it's much easier financially for the packers makes more sense for them to move on from him sooner than later. And we don't know shawn watson future in general but i was thinking about this maybe driving a camp thursday that i don't know if there's anything either these guys can do unless you really does take a jump and you would think we would have seen that really over the first three days it was like oh. This guy looks wade different. The only time that. I i've thought that was in that first mini camp practice when we got to watch all three days at the middle of june at the end of their program. Like all right drew just doing different things and tell you that day but that certainly hasn't been every single day right like i imagine. Josh allen looked a lot different in training camp last year maybe did the first two years. And they're like wow. This could be something different. So and let's do has a jump like that. Can you see a world where either of these guys are playing a next year at quarterback. I'm not saying you don't because it's the way the world works. You don't end up with both these guys again but to where that's the plan going into the off season. I think that you know i. It's funny you mentioned that up. I was talking to. Nick caused minor with athletic today. a little bit about this is. Let's say teddy wins the job And you know. Let's say they make the playoffs and they get bounced in the first round or whatever it is they went in games tenant seven and They go into the off season. I think they then look at this to say okay. Let's keep teddy on. Maybe a short term deal and then go get a rookie. Go get a rookie quarterback you know. Move up in the draft. Do something to get a young guy in there that they believe in. And maybe let that guy learned under teddy for a year or two and then obviously Let that rookie takeover But i think if drew wins the job. Let's say drew wins the job and let's say they are successful at say they win ten eleven. Twelve games whatever. It is. make the pasta then. I think he is the guy the future right. I mean i think he asked if they go out and they win. Twelve games twelve five. Make the playoffs. I need safe to say that. Drew walk probably had a pretty good year and that faith is may be restored in someone like him now. I don't think we can predict what quarterbacks are going to be available. I mean. I don't think any of us really thought that aaron rodgers is going to be. Well i guess he wasn't really available. But i don't think any of that was going to happen Or shawn watson in all. That's going on there. So if you get a guy like that next offseason no matter who wins this quarterback competition. I think you still have to go. Pursue that but You know. I think that there's a scenario where either could be the guy but i'm gonna guess that neither is in twenty twenty two. That's my prediction is that This doesn't work. I mean if you had the if you put a gun to my head today brandon and you asked me what's going to happen this season. I think the broncos are gonna go either nine eight or eight nine They're going to get like you know. I guess the pick similar between ten and Fifteen and they're going to move on from both these guys and are going to go in the direction of either drafting a rookie or Bringing in a guy like aaron rodgers or something like that. I think that that's the most likely outcome. You almost kind of answered. Where i was going to go next. 'cause i threw a. Can you see that. Would you expect to see either these guys as the starter next year. May you know maybe just. Let's boil it down to that. Do you think drew lock or teddy bridgewater will be the plan as the starter going into next year. Because the scenario crafted with bridgewater's almost exactly what the bills tyrod taylor where they got. The ploughs didn't score any points and they went and got josh allen in the first round they need to have to move because the broncos passed on them a couple other teams passed on him and he fell to him right so i don't think they did move up to seven again. I can't remember exactly what was regardless. That's how that shook out. Even though we're in the playoffs we like our roster. We still have to get better here. So do you expect either these guys. It sounds like you sort of answered it. No but i think it's too early to i mean again. We're sitting here in july july thirtieth or whatever it is and things can change. Who knows maybe drew comes out and just is unbelievable against the vikings in a couple of weeks right And then he goes on and he has a great season. who knows. And i think if you're gonna ask me which one is more likely i think drew i think teddy wins the job. They're going to do exactly what i said. And they're gonna go nine eight be very average and they're gonna have to say okay. We're gonna have to move on because at that point. You can't just sit there and be like okay. We're just gonna continue to be average and if if drew wins the job. I think there's a very real chance that he turns out to be pretty darn good quarterback. I just don't know if he's going to win the job if that makes sense. I don't know if that answered the question. But i would say no but i think if if you're going to pick one to be the quarterback in two thousand twenty two. I think it's drew lock but again there's also the scenario of let's say bridgewater does win ten games. They make the playoffs. And you keep him. And you go good a rookie and then you kinda groom that rookie to take over for bridgewater. I mean i think that's a very real possibility that i would guess is in the back of george. Payton's mind in terms of long term future of of the team so the other real true vision battle because the the rest are all kind of playing time battles at this point or avoid cushenberry. Either slip sandra quinn. Minors proves he can be in the competition. Which is i think because you put it to us after the first practice so it's not a competition center is right tackle. And we saw anderson there for two days. And then today we saw bobby massey there for the first time together paying the most money that you'd expect would get really the longest look although you know what you have there so when i say longest look best chance to start. Because they're paying them that money. You have to talk about being nasty after practice. You in a handful of other reporters while still at the main podium. How how did that conversation go. And how would you handicap the right tackle battle and we haven't even seen Cam fleming there yet even though he does come with a super bowl ring which is more than everyone. Not name bonn miller and brandon marshall. Brakeman's can say. Yeah i would. I would describe bobby as confident you can tell that. He's a veteran when speaking to him. It's very clear that he knows he was brought in here to win that competition. I think everybody knows that. He's the favourite to win that right. Tackle spot and i would still say. He's the favourite. I know kelvinator got the start the first two days And you know he looked good out there. But i think in a perfect world the broncos would like to have a solidified starting right tackle and bobby massie and then use anderson kind of as swing tackle. I mean we saw him out there Playing left tackle. They don't really truly have a a true backup. Left tackle right now. And i think that anderson can obviously play both sides we saw anderson. I believe he played left tackle in that game. That bowles was sick. Last season against the panthers into we've seen anderson be able to do both and i know anderson probably wants to be a starter but i think if the if the broncos had their choice they would like to have you know massey. Their outright bowls obviously there left and then have anderson. Be that guy that can fill in. If if for some reason goes down and they have right tackle issues again like they did last season and then they have fleming who i think he can also kinda play both but i think that they view it. As let's say bowls goes down. I think anderson is the is the guy there The to replace him at left. And then if if massey were to go down while bowls was also down that would obviously be a terrible situation but they could plug fleming in over there at the right and not lose too much so i think that's the idea are talking to bobby talked a lot about you. Know he bought a house out here in september. And not even knowing he's gonna sign with the broncos but then you also. I asked him a little bit about you know his time with vic fangio in chicago and it sounded like they were actually pretty close and that was a big reason why he ended up in denver was was vic new The type of player that he could be. And so i think they feel comfortable with their depth there. I think they just want to solidify again. I think bob has been a little bit banged up. I know you had the issue you know going back to. Ota's but He he seems healthy or healthier and. He seems confident that he can win that job and again. We're only in today three but just looking at him. I mean he physically looks really good right now And obviously has a lot of experience going into his tent. Stephen since season playing right tackle. I know the answer to at least one of the names that you're about to give me just because we stand and watch a lot of practice together certainly have over the last few days but without getting into position battles because i don't know if they're really any other positions that are up for grabs currently doesn't mean that can't change but right now we have pretty good idea and i think anybody that covers the team on a regular basis. Could probably pencil in somewhere between forty six and forty guys are going to be on this roster but give me some names of guys that are turning your head or that. You're jotting down because you think they almost are certainly a lot to be on the practice waterman on the practice squad and you know be one ankle sprain away from getting on the roster or are going to be demanding a roster spot or make it really hard to not be on that opening day fifty. Three that's going to travel to new york. Well it's it's the guy that you know. I'm gonna say in in. I know nobody else is talking about it. But trinity said the first three days has looked really good. And i know that some of his reps have not always been against the first team or even second team i think the touchdown he caught today was against the third team Against my guy. Parnell motley who. I do not think it's going to make the team. I'm sorry parnell love you. But i just don't think it's going to happen. But trinity vincent has been. I think you know. I think you would agree. I mean he's been really good. He caught two. Touchdown passes the first the first day he caught another one today He's a burner vic. Fangio said that he's been really good for them. I fully expect him to at least make the practice squad. I know he's been on the practice squad the last couple seasons. I believe he's a guy that i'm definitely watching. But i mean you know that wide receiver room is so deep right. Now that it's gonna be really hard for him to actually make a fifty three man roster you defense A guy like maybe mac mccain is really benefiting from undrafted rookie out of. I think in see. At and t. Or or something like that. T- undrafted guys carolina a. n. t. And the only reason. I even have that on the brain. One of the new members of the pr department jocelyn who's a season-long intern also went to ncaa. And so then. I looked up. Pretty famous. Alums have gone there and sure enough. Like jesse jackson went there. There's a handful of others. well i you know. He's a guy that has stood out in in the sense that he hasn't he hasn't gotten beat a whole lot Which is always a good thing when you're a corner and he's also made a couple of plays here and there you know defending some of these wide receivers that we've talked about. And the only reason. I think he has we. Maybe a more legitimate shot than we gave him to start. Is you know. There's guys in that secondary that really hurt themselves Not being out there right now because the cove in nineteen stuff. And it's vincent jimmy johnson. It sounds like they're going to get those guys back relatively soon carry. Vincent especially is probably a guy mac mccain is fighting for a position on the team for it. Sounds like he's gonna be back next week but he's a guy that i think is standing out on the defensive side of the ball you know. There's a few others that you could you could pencil in there. Maybe nolan offenburg is a guy that you know. He has a really good story Left he's he's a guard of Primarily left guard out of air force. You know graduated from like castle. Hawk castle rock high school local kid. So you know. I think he's a guy that could probably make the practice squad but i mean i think there's a few others i i'm starting to kind blanket a little bit but those are the few that i would definitely point out. There was another defensive guy that. I'm i'm definitely forgetting a. I can't remember was no know about stir nod to a little bit today. I mean he's writing the team but the team certainly the practice squad guy that they're gonna be quick quick to grab and you know bearing browning it either. Yeah when the other one that another debt and this isn't someone that's stood out actually he's maybe struggled a little bit is and we talked a little bit about today. Is seth williams the wide receiver. They picked in the sixth round. A you know i. I can't recall if he's caught a pass yet. I don't think he has you talking about that. I don't remember them. Go through my notes. But i don't remember catching a pass in a team period in seven on seven but it maybe that's a spot again. I mean that's a guy that i have. I've had pencilled in making the making the team because he's obviously a rookie and they drafted him in all that stuff and i expect him to either make the team or the practice squad. But maybe that's a spot that a guy like trinity benson or warren jackson. Who you know. He hasn't done much either but maybe he starts making some plays and things like that and they they still one of those spots from a guy like that. I think a lot of us have pennsylvania you know. I think spencer's another guy. I mean they brought in a lot of these guys. I think to compete with him on the special teams and we've seen a lot of different guys kind of rotating in their on kickoff return and put return and so it's interesting to see you. I really think that wide receiver is kind of up for grabs after the first war to five guys all right so before. I let you run always appreciate the time now busy. You are obviously with the season. Starting what are you looking for over the next couple of days. There's going to be a break in there and one more non padded practice before they strap them on. So you know as we get into the weekend if we get to watch a lot of the practice in the weather may dictate take that and then another practice. Monday before i i believe the puts pads on tuesday. Yeah one of the positions. I haven't been Paying too close attention to mostly. Because they're the furthest away most days is is the defensive line. And i and i think it's important to to watch them because obviously with cell going down today and the and it doesn't sound like you know that's going to be too serious of an injury according to vic fangio today but i do want to see the kind of depth. They have there because i don't think they have a ton of it and i know they have some young guys. They're that they're hoping can step up into to bigger roles like a deshaun williams and dream on jones. Obviously we know that he's a good player and we know what we're we're going to get out of a guy like shelby harris but after that you know who's going to be the next guy shimmer stephen as a guy they brought in for minnesota. I kinda want to watch him a little bit. I think also outside linebacker. I know obviously von and chubb but Is malea is military taking another step Stra nod or orchestra naza inside linebacker tosca and jonathan cooper and then obviously inside linebacker to you know i just mentioned stir not. I think he's looked really good in camps so far i know that he's been injured and i think he is pushing for one of the starting jobs. They're inside linebacker. We haven't got to watch barron browning. But i think when he's healthy he's also guy that could push for one of those spots really on the defensive side of the ball. I feel like. I've i've watched a ton of the offense. Obviously the quarterbacks is something that we're going to watch in breakdown every single day but You know. I think some of that. Front seven guys on defenses israeli where i'm gonna keep my attention. Good rain kill. You may want go grab one. Because i think it's going to be a little damp. Assuming we get to actually watch practice inside. They will let us. I think watch it. You know in the kobe world. All bets are off and maybe two only so so. We'll see exactly how it shakes out but really break down there especially with quarterback stuff and you know i'm going to keep not only talking to your practice but hit you up on broncos daily podcast you in here in the near future. Thanks george. enjoy your very brief. Start to your weekend. Which i guess. Maybe you'll get a little weekend starting tomorrow but thanks. Thanks for the. Yeah thanks brandon see tomorrow. Thorough breakdown of where. The quarterback battle stands and kind of the future at that position. Maybe things will change but my gut tells me right now. The next year's quarterback isn't currently on this team. I'd love to be wrong. I love reader locker. Maybe teddy bridgewater takes jump. That was maybe unexpected and goes from fifteen touchdowns with thirty twenty. Eight and the broncos are a playoff team and they want to continue to have teddy bridgewater under center but they have to pay him a little bit more money than the four and a half. they're paying this year nonetheless. They can it and still get portland. Sutton rally job in the fault. So we'll see how it all plays out. Make sure you're following me tomorrow for updates during and after practice on twitter at pk. Denver sports and then we will have another broncos daily podcast for you on monday. Kind of recap. What happens over the weekend. And monday's practice so again as always. I appreciate listen and we will catch your next time. On the broncos daily podcast.
BK welcomes George Stoia III
"Will be no deaths by inches. This is the broncos daily. Putt jazzed with brandon krisztal. I want everything. I want all the meatballs and pasta. Happy tuesday broncos country. It's always a happy time when good things are happening. And i guess technically vp tuesday around these parts known nicole yokich for the denver broncos but he has played for the denver nuggets or so. There's plenty of crossover folks in the mile high city or denver through and through or love both teams and love watching joker play. I was going to get this podcast up little earlier. I talked to george sawyer shortly after we had media availability today with lloyd cushenberry and josie jewel and bring you a little bit from that as well as some stuff from yesterday with vic fangio alexander johnson and dalton reisner but i talk about joker and people that are critical like nick right out there of jokers. Mvp season. it's it's really a credit to that dude. How hard he worked. And i encourage everybody. Check out mike. Singers article in the denver post about who joker is and people that know him best describing how you approach his life how he approaches bask while high approaches everything that was in the sunday denver post Really great piece talking to his brothers and his old age in and coaches in europe and family and friends it was it was really awesome As well as folks with the nuggets have known them for a long time and saw how special he was going to be. I need to give special shallow paul. Who's of course a friend of the pod and certainly somebody comes on here. Plenty paul klee told me years ago after talking with folks with the nuggets and talking with tim conley team president of basketball operations that this could be an all star and i was looking at them in practice. One day i was like that guy is going to be an all star barely place but okay and he's overweight and just looks kinda goofy. I was wrong. I guess. I didn't say no. He'll never be an all-star skeptical and not only the an all star he is now the best player in basketball so props to nicoli yokich He joins a list that includes both john elway and peyton manning as far as mvp's in their respective sports here from the mile high city. And of course. Larry walker one and allen vp. Back in one thousand nine hundred seven. Joe sack again. Peter forsberg both won the hart trophy. A one for joe super joe when they won their second stanley cup and then a couple of years later. Peter forsberg won the hart trophy four. Nhl mvp So a pretty rare list. That joker joins and we'll see if the broncos are going to have an mvp again anytime soon If they were to land aaron rodgers you would think that probably gives them the best candidate with apologies. That drew lock and teddy bridgewater. And melvin gordon. Anyone else you think they might win. Mvp we haven't seen a defensive mvp and a while either. So von miller bradley chubb justin. Simmons will be my top candidates over there. I'm not sure those guys are are winning. Mvp anytime either sister. If fangio said that he liked what he saw from both quarterbacks we saw him both row interceptions than he also mentioned. That drew lock may be dealing a little bit of a blister on his hand. So does that factor into why he's throwing interceptions and their first day of teamwork yesterday and they're gonna get four days this week. Not as and then three days next week a mandatory minicamp to watch all three days of that when we got to watch one day this week. I missed last week's work. Because i was on vacation camping in the week before that i had a meeting. I couldn't move so it was one of those things where you can over-analyse and victim just said you absolutely shouldn't or you can just say it's practice. It's june interceptions. Happened just seems got one on one. The ball slipped out of drew's hand and me greets nash out of the air. Teddy bridgewater threw wanda rookie. Jimmy johnson and so. I'm not pressing the panic button yet. They're practicing by the way that means you're defenses taking the ball away something down. Tell him vic fangio stress and you wanna see that. From time to time but became joe was asked because alexander johnson don rising over the two guys we were talking to you but alexander johnson specifically about what can the team's leading tackler from a year ago due to improve his game this year and then alexander reacted to it. So this is kind of a fun little sequence here but here's vicks at about what number forty five can do to improve his game. We'll look for him to be more of a assignment and technique conscious and fundamental player. He's at times Can get stray a little bit. From the exact way coaches are being Telling them what to do fits in that other category. You don't want the guys then only at the coach. You're saying you don't want the guys that don't do the coach saying he's leaning towards the too much of the other right now in his career and we've got to give him more dialed in when he does find. He'll even be a lot better. And then here's alexander responded to the notion that he's not assignment sound and then you'll hear my follow up question. I didn't ask the first question but asked a follow up So you'll hear all of that. Alexander not necessarily agreeing with his coach about being assignment. Sound off inappro- tate me already a few months. He may be sitting. There must meet last year but those just hang with inside playing the game with me instead of just my job. China ilbo fall into gabby see a gap opening Stadium to where states much in of Out but for us last week's wise is something that i want to improve on his ours just saying earlier are got over tall. Say this marriage let me slide out to outside. Wish to make the run a background inside off make them go outside on different formations coach. Alexander back to the assignment conversation. How hard is that for you to remember. I gotta stay home. Or i gotta do this versus instinct of just wanting to like help out or go down and try and make a play. You struggle with that aren't far is las. Might know him. The siamese more so is more being more disciplined instead of jumping into this guy. Because you see the open instead of just seen him. I get as more slovenia's this point got this one way to pass through the knicks oneself as our being sounded this. Then here's fellow inside. Linebacker josie jewel about alexander johnson. Being more assignment sound in this vic fangio defense. Yeah i mean it's not it's not like the easiest defense ever by any means. It's it's pretty complex. Which is great because it gives us law do different things and you know maybe the first year he had a couple a couple signs and stuff like that. But you tell definitely in this year. He's morris island driven. He's understanding of the defense are standing. Roll out now. Since thing on the other side of the ball dalton rising talk yesterday and while i appreciate it the exchange. I had with them talking about leadership. The thing that i thought was most interesting was at the very end. He was asked. When you have two quarterbacks and we know how close he is through they came in. They were drafted. And back to back picks. They were roommates when they first got here at the team hotel and an early in their rookie seasons before they got the replaces of course Training camp ended but reisner was asked. If you're going to go sit in the lunchroom and have lunch with one of them. How do you decide who you're sitting with. And i thought he gave a pretty good answer. It's the same way across the whole locker room right because there's competition going on everywhere. Whether the since the quarterback the main position now might be highlighted. One everyone's talking abou there's competition everywhere man. My thing is like we're all trying to be the best team possible. So i never picked size and not going to hang out with one more than the other respect. Both trying to get to know both try to support both for every position across the. That's he not only just quarterback so you know when it comes to launch. Yeah man. I see what you're one day. I don't know eddie as well. So i'm trying to get to know him interesting ever since i got yourself. It's always great as a team mates. Make sure that you're extending yourself your to your teammates. Making sure he gets to know them in their life and dislikes and get to know you guys know each other better on the field. So i'm always trying to do that with every position every competition across Competition lloyd cushenberry started every game and played every only offensive player to do that last year as a rookie and he had a rough gobert at times. There's no question about that. But he is the incumbent. It will be his job to lose when miners. A fellow third rounder. Who's taken at the end of this year's third round is battling competing in loyd was asked. How did you react to quin minors being drafted and do you see it. As true competition just based on holiday last year and i really think much of consciousness. Federal nope we're gonna push push each already. He's got off the field. Is it easier. We're gonna make each other better. Made no stuff so this luggage. Yeah like i said we work together in individual drills. We made it. So he's the guy he's gonna have up to now so you're gone through what i wanted to last year having experienced now kind of t simpson baynes so so bit i guys from you so titian and today we have more conscious. We haven't seen only everybody better. So i really didn't like neat looking forward to the challenge. Making making him better when miners was drafted. Ben albright said that he thinks clinton is gonna take somebody's job good that'd be like cushenberry's we'll see how it plays out. Well he get a shot to compete at last coming a lot of money dalton reisner starts at left guard so not sure minors alba a shot to to take one of those jobs this year. But you'd never know and cushenberry as the incumbent does he. He keep his job. Will we'll find out. But let's talk to george stoa from the gazette a young writer from the university of oklahoma and i had the pleasure of having lunch yesterday after the workout. Joyce story the third is twitter is at george stoyan. Colorado springs and denver at george s. t. o. a. I really like this young man. He's a heck of a writer and is going to do a good job covering your team. So if you haven't started following george yet. And he's closed in on eight thousand dollars and go ahead and give them a follow but We covered everything. Going on with the broncos From early in the off season two right now with the competition evening. Out a little aaron rodgers. Talk talking at the. Check out my chat here with george. Soya on the broncos daily podcast. Georgie wrapped up your first season covering the team and before we get to wear the team is right now. I guess i wanna hit the rewind button a little bit. Let's say quarterback off the table for the sake of conversation. How do you think new. Gm george peyton did in addressing team needs through free agency and the draft if you were going to give them an early grade just as a gm again taking quarterback out of the out of the equation. We'll take him quarterback out of it. I think he's done You know probably an a minus job. I would say be plus somewhere in that range. I mean Know after the season it was clear that defensive back corner was a position that they had to go get You know maybe even more more so than than even quarterback And exactly what they did. They went out and got fool. Or they got darby Obviously they brought back. Just in simmons And they went and got thirteen. Which obviously we're not talking about quarterback that was the best player available there at number nine and a guy that i truly think is going to be a future. All pro type corner. I mean when we go out there and we watch otas the dude. The dude looks the part And he looks like you know your your typical nfl. starting cornerback. That can make pro bowls in any any so big and he's got speed and and obviously his career at alabama speaks for itself but He's a guy that i think is going to be a great player but again You know that's a position that you know they. They took care of really in free agency in my opinion in signing dr being fuller. Obviously bringing callahan back. Oj moody's back You ask who. Actually i'm i'm hoping to talk to This week and maybe write a story on. His recovery obviously was playing great before he got injured So that got a lot of depth there so it kind of makes you scratch your head of of. Why did they go after ser tan. But it goes. You know along with everything george. Patton has said he was going to drop the best player available to them. That was patrick ser tan. Well in some vic fangio always says you can't have enough corners. We saw that last year. Right when they're getting on the nine ten guys your your fellow sooner cornell motley came in one of those guys at added late but they were literally trying to steal guys off practice squads or grab guys off the street just to be able to have enough corner to get them through a given weaker through the end of the season because of those injuries to guys like essang bassey like you mentioned and then look kyle fuller who's been an all pro and maybe an all pro again this year's on a one year deal bryce callahan. Who hasn't finished season in any of the last three years is in the final year of his deal so looking at it for twenty twenty. You're like all they have too many corners but by twenty twenty one. Sorry by twenty twenty two the the they could be just starting darby and obviously ser tan and bassey and no judy are battling for third spot right well and that's why i think i think that was the thought process. There's is what's the term I think one thing that we we keep forgetting to talk about which peyton i think it'd be. It wasn't a six year deal that he signed. I mean he. He's stinking long long-term here. And i think that's the same reason why he didn't go with a quarterback because he didn't feel a hundred percent confident with either mack jones or justin fields. There at number nine. And you never know. Maybe aaron rodgers does come available. But i think that He's thinking big picture here. And i think that's why he ended up really sure enough that corner room because let's be honest the odds of koffler and bryce callahan. Being back in twenty twenty two. I think are very slammed up that both of them are back. Maybe one of them is Maybe they resign and come back. But i think it's very low that both those guys for back in two thousand twenty two and that leaves you like you said with darby certain ojemudia and bassey and obviously they're gonna add another young guy in the draft or maybe there's a free agent but yeah that's at least what you have gone going on paper before we get to the quarterbacks and certainly will get there you know. We talked to lloyd cushenberry today. And while i don't know if he's in the same competition that drew lock is in necessarily. There's definitely competition there of the that competition. What are some other ones that you even keeping an eye on or i'm working through to my head is kind of the one. I guess right tackle right. Will it be bobby massie. We'll be fleming. We'll be somebody else will be anderson. What else do you keep an eye on. And what intrigues you. The most on offense you have to look at right tackle. And i think that that that's a position that it's bobby massey's to lose I think bobby is probably the best right. Tackle option that they have right there. But cameron fumbling fleming obviously comes in with a lot of experience just like massey and then you have kelvin. Anderson who seems like the coaches are really high on And obviously played a little bit last season as a younger guy. Feels like they're trying to groom him into being that right. Tackle some day And so that position is is really interesting to me because obviously they had a lot of issues there last year they've got to on james was going to be the guy this year And obviously it didn't work out. And so i'm really intrigued by what's going to happen there and you know it's also interesting. That massey hasn't really been. Ota's earliest practicing. I know he's got a tech strain going on or something like that is what fangio said yesterday But it's interesting to see who's gonna be playing that right tackle position because i think that this offensive line can be really good if they can if they can sure that up and then on defense. I think it's a linebacker position. And i know we talked to josie. Joel today Andrew johnson yesterday. And maybe people aren't thinking that's a battle there but i think once barren browning if he can healthy which he's another guy that hasn't really been practicing in ota's With with a knee issue You know he's a guy that i really think. By the end of the next by the end of next season could be starting there At inside linebacker so That's a position that. I think that you look at that defense. We keep talking about how great they can be good. The secondary is You know von miller coming back up front and and maleek coming on bradley chubb. How good that pass rush can be but really the weak spot in that defense is linebacker. And it's gonna be interesting to see josie jewel now. Alexander johnson can keep both. They're starting jobs. Because i think barrett browning can be right on their heels to take that position. Yeah the sense. I get is if browning's taking anyone's job it might be alexandra johnson's even though he led the team and you know about his his physical tools. One of the big keys vic fangio's defense is is being in the right place at the right time and making sure that everything set and yes. You've got plenty of guys on the back end. Who can help fix issues. But sometimes they can't get all the way up to the to the defensive front to be able to tweak things or move guys around the way you need your linebackers two. And that's why. I think they realized josie jewel. And i think he. He maybe even exceeded expectations last year. Getting the start. All those games with todd davis obviously being being released at the camp. So it feels like josie jewel may be around here a little longer until they can replace him with someone who's really smart and really fast. I guess really athletic. And the other one that i think you have to watch out for I know that they talked a little bit about him today. Josie did and and he's a guy that obviously You know it sounds like he was playing quite a bit Before he got into of course. When i came in covering the team he was already injured in. I didn't get to see him play any but it seems like the coaches and players are high on him and so maybe he's a guy that come in and compete for one of those positions. Yeah he had he had a good campy seem to always be around the ball. He's not blazing fast. Vix had guys had patrick willis. he had roquan smith. I want to say roquan. Rookie year from my math is right and so when you have guys like that you know the two linebackers especially with how fast devon white is tampa but labonte. David can run really well to just not isn't that but he's always around the ball and i remember talking to folks with the team when they when they got him last year draft weekend they really liked his ability to find the football and that he plays faster than maybe he runs whereas some guys you know they'll say oh he doesn't play as fast as he is it kinda the opposite. So maybe he. He's the one that's pushing. Josie duelfer for josie spot. Whether that's at the start of the year middle of the year or by next year. But it makes you think that. Maybe they're not going to draft linebackers in the early rounds. If they believe in in somebody like that plus plus browning when you look at the running back situation. We haven't seen melvin gordon but a quarterback's best friend. I'll do quarterbacks but of quebec's best friend is is the run game that shaking out 'cause just to let you know i think it'll be a seventy thirty split with melvin at least seventy percent of the work to start. Yeah i think to start the season. That's right but i think what we're going to seize adding devante going to be a study I thought that was a great pick. I know some people didn't like it. They had to move up and give up a fourth round. Pick to to get him there in the third round but You know. I think she's going to be a guy that again. Maybe by the end of the season kinda like learn browning. He's their guy at run back And i i definitely think he's their guy. Twenty twenty two. I think gordon probably won't be back And i think towards the end of next season you're gonna start seeing williams get more carries and so he's just a guy that i think that can do a lotta different things. And obviously gordon's a good running back in in What is he in his his sixth year. I think or seventh year in in the nfl and was rushing for almost a thousand yards last season. So he's coming off a really good year you'd like to see him at Ota's and out there and see him next to guy devante williams but I think they're gonna have a really good backfield in the end you even you know. They added mike boone who I know hasn't played a ton but when he did play for the vikings pretty. You know pretty good. And he's a guy that can can can contribute to this group so I think that they're running. Back room is pretty solid. But i do think that people are going to be wanting to see more of devante williams by the end of next season. Yeah i'm kind of right there with you. Even though melvin gordon said he wants to sign a new deal here and i get that and and who doesn't want that and and understands that this is a running back off can be it does feel like they drafted his replacement. And they'll free up that money to us to somewhere else right. So we've waited long enough. Let's get to the quarterbacks and yes. Aaron rodgers is officially not at packers minicamp and could cost them almost one hundred grand if they decide to levy that fine and make him pay offer. Take it out of future money. That is owed to them or whatever it may be. But let's put aaron rodgers on the side for a second talk about two quarterbacks at our here we found out drew. lock maybe dealing with the blister. But he didn't look great yesterday. And i know of only gotten we only got to see him. I missed the first to open being practices. But you've seen them all three of those and teddy bridgewater as well. What are your impressions is. Both guys did throw picks yesterday as well well. You're you're all in on lock you think locks can be a starter right. I do because i get the sense talking to people in the building that they have a lot invested in them. And there's there's people high enough up that believe in him that want to see him when the job and and like his talent. But that doesn't mean that that's going to ultimately went out and so we'll see it's kind of a committee but it will ultimately be vicks call. I think with georgia's blessing so drew is going to have to prove that he can do the job better than teddy bridgewater even with the higher ceiling so because the ball comes out different from their hands you see it especially when they're throwing side by side but i'm not i'm not coming off that position yet and we didn't make enough about it yesterday. But if he does a blister on his end we see that baseball pitchers down for weeks at a time. Football football players are a little different breed especially this time of year. But you're not missing a game for a blister if your quarterback you just aren't so maybe it's a little bit of an excuse. Because i think dry looked good that first week compared to bridgewater should should be had. So yeah. that's where. I stand on team lock as it relates to who's going to be the starter week. One in new york against the giants all things being equal no injuries or anything like that to to change it up. If everybody's out the. I think we'll see drew. Lock one two or three. But i think one we'll see drew lock right and i'm gonna preface what i'm about to say with. We have only seen them three times in. It's mostly been in seven on seven. And i think they've had what ten practices now so we've only got to see him like thirty percent of these. Ot is so far in my opinion. Bridgewater has been the better quarterback. I think that he's Looking downfield more He's obviously gotten in a rhythm with jerry jeudy main their chemistry Looks amazing so far through three practices. i mean he's he mean bridgewater's looking for him every time is hit him. On a couple of touchdown passes Of thirty plus yards But you can tell. Drew has the better arm. And i don't think anybody questioned that coming into this but it's very weird. Drew can do a little bit more with his arm. He throws it a little bit harder as jerry. Jeudy obviously said in his quote that went you know sorta viral You know he he can throw it a little bit further but bridgewater's very accurate. You know. I wrote a story. You know last week that he had the fifth highest completion Completion percentage in the league last season. Now that's not to say that. He's just a phenomenal quarterback because he also threw eleven interceptions and was checking down. A didn't really throw the ball down the field but he does look like he's being more aggressive and he's he's i think more aggressive than lock In in these. Ota safari locks done a lot of stuff. That's been short passes you know. He's only thrown a coupla passes. Maybe more than fifteen yards down the field And he just bridgewater. Looks a lot more comfortable at this point. And i don't know if that's locked may be pressing I don't think he's really been a true quarterback competition maybe since high school. i know missouri. He kinda got thrown into the fire as a freshman the starter Golic arrested or kicked off the team or something like that And so you know. Maybe he's uncomfortable going through a quarterback competition but it's very clear. Bridgewater is the veteran Because he looks much more comfortable in this situation which is kinda surprising considering lock is obviously been here a little bit longer more familiar. Maybe with pat shurmur. Even though i guess bridgewater did have shurmur there for a season in minnesota but You know i. I would say right now. If if they had to play a game next week i didn't bridgewater's the starter but again it june. And there's a lot of time in lock Can make up for that and again. We've only soon three practices. Who knows drew lock could be tearing it up on the days that we're not there. Maybe he just doesn't like playing in front of a crowd of of media folks up there on the hill but You know i think right now. Bridgewater looks like he's gonna be the starter if they had to do it next week and and again i think it's gonna come down to fangio's going to pick the guy who's going to turn the ball over last and both those guys had that problem last season but i would probably maybe give that advantage to bridgewater right now. What's interesting is you know. As you point out that teddy's taking jobs downfield and druze is keeping everything short. It almost feels like that's how they have to impress. A coach is right right. Pat shurmur famously. Last year referred drew. With the with the i think he called forty are check down or sixty are check down and bridgewater. We know point out then he certainly will complete plenty underneath but the knock on hymns always going to be like. Hey are you gonna take chances. Are you going to stretch field and so to win the job. He has to show that he can do that. A little more and is willing to do it and for drew. it's okay. Quit taking the shots down field. Yes they might be there. We know you've got a big arm. Just take the play. That's there and move the sticks. And so i don't know which style if they're if they're both committed to that and you know i'm just gonna talk through that right now with you but if they're both committed to doing the opposite of what their tendencies have been. What will impress the coaches more. That teddy's taken the shots or the drew is and just taking what's underneath and movin moving methodically down the field. I teddy I again and i. I believe in drew lock. I have been adamant that. I think drew lock can be a good quarterback I think maybe part of the reason he struggled so far is just You know. I think the scheme doesn't fit him. Well sometimes i think he struggled with understanding last year. I think that we're gonna see a jump from him this year really understanding shurmur has offense but i just think that bridgewater's experience is gonna trump Locks potential talent. And i think with fangio it just lines up with angie going into what is a really do or die season for him in terms of being the head coach with the broncos. He's gonna pick the safer bet. And i think that's gonna be bridgewater. And i just i don't know i think that to your point. I think they want see. Water takes Insofar he's hit them. That's the thing that we've seen is in the three practices. He's taking shots any any hit number. I think the only time i've seen him. Not you know. Make the throw or Mistake was was yesterday when he threw the intersection and a double coverage to jimmy. Johnson is really the the receiver kind of lead up there but still it was. It was a bad decision But you know. I think that That's what i would lean towards an. They're going to need that. I mean i. I truly believe if they're going to win games to be a little bit aggressive. They can't just take the underneath stuff all the time. And it's good to see drew do that. But you still. You're still have some of that. Same swagger confidence that he had an himself Last season in the year prior. Because that's what is going to eventually make him a good quarterback in my opinion. Yeah and i. It was funny. Hearing the clips. For melvin gordon on that. Podcast say that he told drew the one thing he needs his confidence and to fake it till you make it because whenever anybody asked me about drew lock especially coming off the foreign one start to his career. I would always reference his confidence in the in his swag years teammates talk about. That's one thing the the kid doesn't seem to be lacking right. And i go back to his high school days. Kansas city's pretty big town and you grew up not too far from there and i have spent a lot of time there you. You're the best football and basketball player in in kansas city right and basically in those two states like kansas and missouri. And i know he's on the missouri side. You're going to walk into muslims. Would like you know what i am. The right so and it seemed like confidence was shoot. Seemed like consistency is the issue. But while i don't want to agree with you. I think if teddy bridgewater i'm not saying i don't agree with you. I just want to be wrong on on drew. If teddy bridgewater i. It seems more uncharacteristic based on the sample size right we've seen teddy bridgewater in the league for a bunch of years. Not take chances so if he shows throughout the entire training camp and in those have any preseason games he plays of the three that he's really gonna take shots with jerry jeudy and courtland sutton and really stretched a field and you know last year. He had guys and dj. In robby anderson. He could go vertical with and you just didn't And he was there. He is an offense really bad in late game situations but i think if he can coach is that they know he can do the underneath stuff that that that is probably the thing. They're least worried about right. That he'll throw it for four yards and make make sure second and six or whatever so bright. Maybe maybe you're right. Maybe he does show yeah. I'm willing to take a chance right. Found a win this job. I've got courtland sutton. I've got jerry jeudy. I'm gonna. I've got no fan and maybe our oh soon enough i am going to stretch a field and caja hamler right one. I think that again the chemistry. He's building with judy. Who i personally think. Judy is the best player or i guess. Maybe not yet because he. He had a rough Rookie season at times with his drops. But i think he has the highest ceiling of anybody on this team. I mean i think he is a future superstar in the in the nfl in that chemistry. That bridgewater's bill of him. I think that the coaches are going to take that into consideration when they're when they're picking who is going to start because if if bridgewater's just hitting judy all the time and we've seen it in practice mean eastern them for big chunks down the field against a a pretty darn good secondary You know. I think that they're going to take that into consideration when they're considering who's gonna be the quarterback drew You know. I think he has a you know connection with judy but You know we haven't really seen it much not as but you also have to put in put into perspective reminiscing sutton out there either And you know. I'm interested to see what he brings it. What kind of chemistry that. These guys have with him because i think he can also be obviously a great player if he if he can come back like you know his former self before he tore his acl so There's just so much still left to be done not as in training camp and even preseason games that it sounds like they're going to carry this all the way you know. I wouldn't be shocked if they carry this all the way through the last. Preseason game this this quarterback battle so they're still so much unseen in and you can't really tell any seven on sevens and really eleven eleven periods. I mean both sides know each other really well. I'm not saying they know exactly what's coming But they have a good sense of of the plays and in. What's going on it. So i really wanna see them. You know that week up at minnesota when they have the joint practices Will be really interesting and obviously three preseason games You know it'll be interesting to see how both these guys react. And how fangio splits splits up those snaps. The fifty fifty thing. How does that play out. And he said not to track it. But it'll it'll even out right. It may look like one guy's getting more in two days but over the next few days the other guy will get so all right ultimately year. If i'm putting you down now or we're going to draft kings to to bet on it you're betting on teddy bridgewater being the starter. September twelfth in new york. Yeah but i'm not betting on him. Being the started the season. I feel like i've said that. Like three or four times. This this podcast is that there's like three or four positions that it's not going to be the guy by the season It depends on how it goes. But yeah i if you had to you know ask me today. I think it's going to be teddy bridgewater at the start of the season. Alright well it'll be fun to play out in real time in front of us. If aaron rodgers isn't here i guess i'll give you. I'll give you one last. I don't say shot but opportunity to talk about aaron rodgers who doesn't show up in green bay and through this out on on draftkings madden streamed. I was doing night a little bit. I guess it twice yesterday If i'm tennessee. I'm i'm also calling about aaron rodgers right. If you know that the packers are going to send him to an afc team and we think the raiders might get in the mix too and there's probably a bunch of teams at least make some sort of call. Why wouldn't you if you're the titans you just added. Julio jones yahweh jay brown send them tannehill. Send them all your ones and say yeah. We'll take aaron rodgers down here in nashville right. Well here's the thing. That i keep saying about aaron rodgers and i think i do think that You know the broncos are up there as his probably his top choice. I do believe that. But i think the longer this goes on though that list of teams that he may be has is gonna get longer and at the end of the day. The packers have to do what's best for their organization. Not just what's best for aaron rodgers. And i think that they will take in consideration. What his you know his list is obviously he has. He's going to have some say in this But i think that that list for him is going to get longer. And i think the should be on that list You look at the titans raiders and broncos. I mean which team if. You're a quarterback. Would you wanna go to i. I would probably say the titans out of those three. But out of the broncos and raiders. I think i'd rather be on the broncos And so it's interesting To see it. Play out. But i do think that list is gonna get bigger. Somebody mentioned to me the other day. What about miami. Would he be interested in going down there to south beach and That's an interesting one. I don't know if miami. I mean i can get any everybody. Maybe like two or three teams should be interested in aaron rodgers Truthfully but i think miami's one of them that could be interested in. Somebody said the giants the other day would be interesting You know. I think there's gonna be a lot of calls and i think the longer this goes on In the longer that he does not want to be a green bay packer. He's gonna say just get me out of here and eventually he's gonna land somewhere. That may be. We weren't expecting well. It is going to be fun and fascinating to watch. What happens with aaron rodgers and certainly what happens here in broncos country georgia. I hope that folks are starting to know. You had a great piece on kelly. Klein That that i retweeted. I know ben. Albright retweeted the the new executive with the broncos. You got to talk to a bunch of folks that knew her from her family members coaches and it was really good side. urge people to go Read that and read all the stuff that you're putting out so thanks so much for the time and i'll see out at the practice field here soon. Awesome thanks for having me brandon.
Training Camp Day 1: with Rick Lewis
"We'll be no deaths by inches. This is the broncos daily. Putt jazzed with brandon krisztal. I want everything all the meatballs and pasta. Happy start of training camp. Wednesday broncos country. Good to be back covering football practice known recovering football practice for now until first week of january here in denver. hopefully beyond. because there's some sort of playoff run. And then into the first second week of february we go through the super bowl in los angeles. And so are the broncos team. It doesn't feel like that yet but we did see the start of the quarterback competitions. Speaking of the quarterback around here drew la. Give me a hard time coming up in just a little bit. I'm not sure actually. And before you hear it all at least here whether or not. My response to drew lock made it on air. If not i'll just say it. Or i say on air on the microphone that the broncos have set up for the press covers book burs. Let's get it into the qb competition and you'll hear me talk about this with rick lewis but This is my takeaway was sitting by the other assembled media members that are to 'em status. We have two different status. There's people that can be down on the field and that's more your beat writers and couple of radio and tv folks. That are there every day like myself. Benjamin albright's down there as well and then the other tier is up on the landing right behind the berm. Their next to where the koa broadcast position is in between the two fields. And that's where. Rick david their show from and the the designation there is as for the other media members and a lot of companies are having people switch so like i saw powell romi bean from channel four and then i saw she and michael spencer doing a hit together outside. I think tomorrow. Michael be down low and she'll be up top but the talk was that it's going to seem almost impossible for drew. Lock to lose his job. And i said that a couple of times throughout the spring. And you've heard me say here. I don't think based on three preseason games and the way training camp practiser structured that drew lock unless he just essentially falls off a clippers. Play will do enough damage. If you will play poorly enough that he'll lose the job in conversely teddy bridgewater won't be able to do enough to win the job because it's not in his nature to just keep firing downfield so he has to take the check them. Because that's what what's there but then you see there's nothing really dynamic because wanna play breaks down. He's still just kind of checking it. Down drew locked and had one opportunity where he rolled left and he didn't throw into traffic. He just kind of threw the ball towards the sideline. I don't think it was caught. But it was one of those things like okay instead of firing downfield and vic was even asked about it post practice. Do you wanna see drew. Take chances down the field. He he just didn't andrew even said that he likes to think he's smarter now and knows not to try to throw into traffic back across his body or or something like that and so i just don't see a scenario injuries notwithstanding unless it's a three or four interception game and they probably wouldn't even put drew in that position or three or four touchdown game for teddy bridgewater and that seems almost impossible to where we talk about asd minnesota and just a couple of weeks on the fourteenth a week later in seattle and then home to the rams where there's going to be an opportunity for drew to lose job and teddy to win the job. Ninety think drew is going to be on a short leash. Because vic fangio and you'll hear rick and i get into. This is for all intents and purposes coaching for his head. Coaching future in the short term But let's let's hear from vic fangio here a little bit from drew in let you hear drew giving me in the state of kansas hard time telling us how he almost died But here is the fangio on his Quick thought on how he thought day. One of the quarterback competition went. It was good to watch the tape. I to give you a better answer but from my point of view out there. I thought they both did well. So let's start with the incumbent andrew lock and we've got a couple of things from drew. Here's drew talking about what he's focused on as he's starting this training camp in this quarterback battle where he did get the first set but the rich really did almost break down to fifty fifty today. He did have a couple of nights passes by the way he had jerry. Judy a nice Look like either skinny poster. Deepen he had a touchdown. Pass the trinity benson In a couple of throws another past jerry judy. In seven on seven we dropped in right behind The first level and in front of the second level no problem the second level wasn't really necessarily there But it was a really nice throw teddy on a couple of throws is very deep. Pass off the atari cleveland. So here's drew though on on his focus here early in camp religious work towards perfection. Instead of bigger picture things dots. What's been the most fun even from just starting on day one and even as we feel like we could do that instead of looking bigger picture things and that's when guys start to get comfortable play pass guys started making mistakes better. You're one hundred percent making these mistakes. You're not thinking. Should i initiative that no. I was convicted on this this. Why did it. So it's been fun guys applying around aston. They can only get better and then here was my question too drew. I asked him. How do you avoid keeping score. It's human nature that we're going to keep score and the media fans keep score the practices that they're at and teammates probably keep score to some degree certainly the coaches and personnel people. They'll tell you they're not keeping score but it all kind of adds up. So here's my question about. How do you guard against worrying every day. Who won and who lost in a given practice if you will just staying routine i think you gotta have a good idea on what you're gonna do when you wake up every single day we're going gonna do when you go to bed every single day and once that time limit from waking up and going to bed is done you learn what you needed to learn right down multiple times maybe come back to it the next morning but then each new day Once you start getting wrapped up in the hotel you today. I wanted today or got to back up in my pocket. These couple of days like once you get into that game. I think it becomes a little less about this team and i was getting better more by yourself and that's when things kind of started take a downward toll. So that's something that i'm not to be getting myself into. I mentioned teddy bridgewater and splitting reg withdrew. Here's his answer. When asked de mind splitting these reps fifty fifty here to start camp and the sense you can get really easily from teddy bridgewater as as just a good teammate. And he's a guy that's going to be around the league for over a decade whether it's as the starter as a backup in grabs even longer because he's good in the room he's positive he's pretty upbeat i asked him. Is there one or two things that he's focusing on to try to win the job because again i think he needs to really show that he'll stretch field over and over and i just don't think he's got that enemy just not wired that way but here's his answer when i asked if there are just a couple of areas that he's trying to focus on to maybe when this job i'm just practicing what purpose and that's one of our goals talk about last night no pricing what purpose in having a perfectly you come out here and i tell the guys we break it down before i said. Hey man let's make sure. Every rep has a purpose. You know there's a lesson in every rep. There's a lesson everything that we do. So when i'm out there man. Is this one. Play a time and maximizing how purpose before we get to rick lewis. This was an exchange was say unwarranted. But certainly unexpected. I'm not surprised that drew lock was asked about almost being severe car wreck with a lug nut flying through the air at a high rate of speed as he's on the interstate and there were pictures on social media of the state troopers at helped them out and it happened in the state of kansas. I don't say the great state of kansas. I don't know that much love for the state of kansas. I have plenty of love for the university of kansas. My whole family grew up in and around kansas city. And that's a big reason why i didn't go to school. The university of texas. I chose to leave my home. State of texas. Leave dallas and go to ku kansas city but drew just kind of starts firing at me not once but twice. I did happen to be wearing a jayhawker today but nonetheless i i wasn't asking for any of this last year. Did i give him a hard time. When i be wearing my masquerade. Your time i told i was gonna give them one as a gift. And he said he'd burn it then. That's just sort of the love. Hate relationship that missouri and kansas fans have. And i appreciate that. Even though he never played against the jayhawks his whole family went to missouri and he grew up hating k. u. And that's a good thing. So i you know a good healthy rivalry. I think is a good thing. And they're going to renew the rivalry so that'll be cool. And then he. And i will be able to play some sort of friendly wager on it. But this is a pretty harrowing tale and so you'll hear him explain it and then a couple of minutes later i got to ask a question i said. Look the only redeeming thing about the state of kansas is lawrence. I will say now. Joe's kansas city formerly oklahoma joe's that's in kansas l. season casey k. There's plenty of good stuff in kansas city. But in general not much in the state of kansas. It's that great other than the town lawrence describing exactly what went down. Well brand would understand. It was in that horrible state of his of kansas but surprisingly actually i wasn't surprised. Majority people helping me and being gray. We're denver fans in kansas state fans. They never had the jayhawks thing. We actually made a promising. He would reverse so shirts whenever i was around the him but he's not so. Let's talk about that later in private but that was insane i was. I was extremely scared. You know. I took a moment there for about three minutes to kind of like realize what happened. How severe could have been. Natalie was with me in the car. it was. Yeah it was pretty scary but props to the people that are helping me being able to take me back. Gimme situated away from my dad to come get me and went back home to kansas city for a couple more days. I was planning on being here in denver. That's where i was coming from. But i went home to kansas city and had a few more dinners with the family and just relax them for a couple of days. Because i was a little intent. No yeah so. The long story short coming across seventy through kansas one lanes coming this way though ones going this way they were in the right lane. I was in this right lane. Their tire flew up in the air. I saw like come off their car. So i was like okay meaning to slow down and then it starts coming into the grass popped up over the grass and then onto our highway was even a car next to a car going the opposite way so i was slammed on the brakes dodge. The tire right as the tyrone behind turnaround and the bolt hit. So i don't know how in the world the bolt on the tire from four lanes over grass pops over then hits the car. It was pretty scary. Stuff there for the broncos. Qb nicer his dad and go pick him up. I don't know didn't just try to get uber rental car or something i mean i get. He's on the side of the highway. But i'm sure the stage was them somewhere safe nonetheless. Nice andy grab them. And there's nothing worse happened to the car that lost its tire into to drew lock and his girlfriend natalie. So let's get to. Rick lewis slow year every morning on the fox from six to nine and then every mid morning nine to noon. I guess it's still morning. With dave logan and kathy lee on kathy bush shows dave logan on koa and the color analyst for the broncos radio network. They were out of practice this morning and so here is my chat on twitter by the way and instagram out. One rick lewis with the one and only read lewis. Rick you know. I love talking broncos with you. It's that time of year broncos daily podcast got about a month off still was doing you know my shelby harris. Podcast of course or shelby's podcast. That i am a part of his better way to said but glad to be able to try to bug you as much as you'll let me. You were out. At the first broncos training camp practices in fact you were other before any broncos. You did your morning show on the fox. And then three hours. With dave and kathy on koa. So i guess big picture. Before we dive into the quarterbacks what was your takeaway with fans back and and just the vibe all of it yeah we did I actually did six hours from broncos trade camp today and it was almost a hundred degrees really really hot out there. I was first of all a little surprised that there weren't a lot of fans there. I know you showed up and you'd probably say thing. I thought maybe on opening day training camp there would be a really big turn out. There wasn't an maybe it's because of the heat it was brutally hot out there so I i there's a lot of good energy on there. Von diller came out before the practice and kind of bounced over to the for the all. The fans are sitting got the fans. Go and got the fans clap and you can see that. He's got a lot of enthusiasm and excited to be back. Played football again this year. And i know front spencer just as excited that he's healthy again In fact we talked to a torch peyton wrong. Gm about that that there hadn't been tuning too many games where both fun and shot but then on the field together. Imagine how good that can be if both stay healthy so I guess my a couple things stood out to me. I thought drew lock had a pretty good day today. Keep in mind. I'm doing a radio show. While i'm watching so i'll love studying them but i felt like drew lock scenes more decisive. This is seventy seven drills and also seem to be looking for check down And finding them a lot more easily this year. Then he looked last year Teddy's teddy teddy teddy's rock-solid But i thought i thought you lock. Maybe just a little bit better today. K. j. handler had a good day. Jerry judy had a good day. i was impressed with the speed of the levante. Bellamy's they got a lot of staps today. That's a guy that is probably going to be a practice squad player but Bad that guy. He definitely one of the quickest. If not the quickest guy on the field trinity. Vinson another guy. Who's probably going to be a practice squad. Player had a good day All in all. I think the process off to a good start. It seems like there's a really good energy there and you can feel And i i would say more optimistic feel energy than i've felt in my previous four seasons as the color analyst for the denver broncos it has you know brandon. Those four seasons have been pretty rough. But it feels to me like like. This team has turned the corner. And they're they're finally building something that could be special. Yeah they certainly have pieces everywhere around the roster and i would say other than quarterback but we have to figure out what these quarterbacks are and what they can be your point about teddy being. Who is he showed. More of that. I think today. And he's the guy that ain't gonna lose. You can't go win you games. That's my biggest concern. Drew lock stretching if you have a little bit although teddy on his very first. Throw from scrimmage if you will in in the first team period did try to connect on a on a deep ball down the middle of the field to slightly over thrown off the hand. Tyree cleveland the. And i mentioned it earlier before i got you on and talk. When people standing there on the sideline watching practice from our vantage point was i just don't know and i said this before. Can't i don't know how drew lock loses his job if he keeps doing the stuff that he's doing today where he'll take the chances he'll throw the ball a little deeper and as long as you said it's throwing interception after interception. There's not going to be enough opportunity even in preseason games. I don't think for teddy to go win the job nor for lucija yawkey. You're probably right about that. I did notice a difference. Drew lock outs. Just seven on seven days of training camp. But i did see a better version of drew today than i've seen in the past and you know i it's close between and drew gerard trading cam. I would think drew lock starter on on one just for the fact that he. He's got a lot more upside potential. You know he's got the talent to a franchise quarterback figured it out katie solid. You know what you're getting with him. I also by the way that we're gonna see a better teddy bridgewater than we saw last year and carolina. He did not have his best season last year. He he wasn't happy there Turn the ball over a lot. That's not him. I think we'll see a better teddy does your I'm fairly optimistic. About what they have. Yeah well he certainly has more weapons not that. Dj more doesn't have a chance to be a special talent in carolina. i think he does. And we know about christian but obviously He didn't play all year and he didn't play against the broncos even though he was set to come back yet heard in practice after missing all that time. So it's understandable why he didn't have a great year now he's got more weapons any knows what to do with at least early and camping now. That's one thing too. I didn't know how much you would see. Colin sudden even team periods. But i know they're limiting as reps but the fact that he's out there and team periods. That's pretty darn encouraging from the injury that he suffered and how big is knee braces out. There are some amazing how these guys can recover in less than a year from the tornadoes. You see all the time out there too for that matter. Sorry you know watch court show like he was favoring that that at all he was wearing something on the need and it didn't look like a brace but it looked more like a some sort of a compression sleeve. I didn't get a little bit from where i was sitting. It didn't look like a racist and he didn't look like it was running With a brace on he looked comfortable out there man. What a great addition he would be just as young wide receiver rome if he comes back one hundred percent any says that he's auto present and then you mentioned von playing together and the george your i want to get into some of the conversations you had today because like you said you did six hours radio and it was upwards of one hundred degrees in the hot box that they had you broadcast in brooklyn top of the on top of the berm there. And but with vaughn and chubb specifically those guys have played four games together in vic fangio's defense but did see von wreck at least one play. And when i asked vic post practice how do you keep bond from noon. Then he goes. I don't want to keep them from doing that. Because our taxes are gonna have to go against guys like him during the year. Maybe not all the way like him right because we know how unique it is what i think about when chubb gets out because he's opposite of maliki today. It's gonna be really fun watching those guys up. I think they might challenge the chris. Doleman keith maillard. Record from eighty nine of twenty one for the hall of famer and millar had eighteen year and went to the pro bowl twenty one eighteen sacks for a news a lot but so it will if that happens. It's going to be a good season for the denver. Broncos and i did talk to george peyton general manager and he just talked about von miller in glowing terms future hall of famer and Just how good. He looks out on the field he. He's he's so impressive. He's such an oppressive athlete in the things that he can do when he's healthy George peyton obviously loves the fact that he's got von miller on his roster at a healthy von miller certainly will make a difference on this defense with folks like it can be special. You know i. it's the Their number one draft pick patrick's tan playing in a lot of the packages on defense and they're loaded defensive back as you know a lot of talent back there. Maybe maybe aren't you believe the best There's more talented secondary in the national football league. You can make that argument And he looks like he's right in another thing you notice about him right away. It's just how big he truck quarterback good forward. I mean his legs. You got the legs of a linebacker. He's got the length of a wide receiver. This guy is really really impressive. I know there were fans. Were disappointed in the broncos. Did the track just field Anesthetic patrick's can't but i tell you what this guy is going to be a really good player for the denver broncos They're gonna have to find a way to work him in with all the talent. They have back there but he'll find a way to do it. This guy's plug and play. Nfl quarterback yeah and they basically have been playing big nickel linebacker and dime linebacker similar to what we saw from like willow parks in recent years. Right more of a safety type role. Not that that's how they envision him at some point he will be one of the starting corners on the outside but darby was over there on the right side when the ones were out there and fuller though former all pro is on the left side and callahan who knows vic fangio's favorite. His his will be if you will was in the slot which mitt and he looks like a corner right. He's five nine on his best. Hey look like oh. He's just a really light linebacker. Maybe but he's a corner so it's a good problem to have right especially last year. When you saw granpar- now motley off the niners practice squad guys like that part of mali. Today look like a practice squad player. Unfortunately you're like oh that's the difference between you just need a body versus having frontline talent. Yeah the last two seasons in fact they had so many injuries on the back end of their defense that there were no disrespect these guys but were guys that were forced into starting roles that really are practice squad players and we saw that happen a couple of seasons in a row And so you can't have enough healthy good cornerbacks And boy they got a bunch of 'em now Let's hope they can stay healthy. And you mentioned that. Bryce kellyanne is Is coach veins. Ios guy yeah. There's no doubt about that. And bryce had a fantastic year last year greeted out as one of the best corners in the national football league until he got hurt If he can stay healthy mandate are loaded tallapiedra. You gotta love that back into this defense. They need to create some turnovers. That's been a problem. Four total interceptions in two years by cornerback. That's not a very good number now and also they they need to deter that around obviously And that gives the Their offense better field position and it puts more points on the board for the offense. There's a lot to be excited about about this football team. So i i mentioned that you a bunch of interviews across the two shows you talked to joel. I heard the conversation with dalton. Reisner as well. I missed your chat with coach fangio. So we know that kyle fuller who played in that lake tahoe celebrity tournament got into golf because vic and we know how much he loves. Callahan how do you get on his list of favorites. Because you've talked to. Dave plenty about being a dinner guests that come up and do i need to go. Search that interview to hear. Did you get invited to go. I sorta got an invite a coach payne geo love state cloak. Sheriff dave logan great. Yeah and he's a regular cast on our ship but coach really likes day. And you know and i participate in the interview. Every week coach fangio for two seasons out but last year the end of the year Kind of as a job. I i basically bided myself overdose house for dinner. Because i heard he was a good cook. Let's say you know you make rage forgetting meatballs and that. I'd love to come over for dinner sometimes and he didn't quite know how to respond to that last and i said something like well you know maybe maybe we could get dave to go and he's like. Oh yeah yeah. That'd be great if they could come and so today my morning show as all usual football questions at the end of the interview. I brought that up again. I don't get it last year coach. you invited me over for dinner and there was this awkward silence and he said i don't remember that so we kinda started laughing and I suggest you were gonna make lasagna for me. Dave and kathy kinda coach you you you know you're going to have eight. Edrich came over and he said okay he goes well. I guess it's dave coming incurred by the to kind of a classic coach beige moment and it was just tommy was perfect. You know you know you know. He's a very stoic guy. Yeah and This year he seems different. The looser lighter to me. It was just kind of fun to get a big laugh. Everybody laughs really hard at data loading so that was definitely late in the day. I wonder if some of that. And i've noticed that a little bit at least in his interaction with us yesterday. Maybe not as much in the summer the couple of times. He talked him. Although i guess he was relatively loose and then again today i mean he obviously comes up right after practice and it was clear that question question and those can sometimes be two three minute sessions. It was like eight nine minutes. Maybe it's about eight and a half and you answered. Everything's we kind of went through it. I wonder how much of it. And i'm certainly not dismissing the greatness of john elway but not having number seven in the building every day and everything that comes along with john's management style in his competitiveness. That no matter what you're always going to be in the shadow when that guys there is your boss versus george definitely continues to tell us that he took the job because of vic and there appears to be a partnership. I'm not saying there wasn't a good working relationship with john but we know that john has a final decision in george immediately yesterday. Talking about the quarterback said well. It's going to be fixed decision. So i wonder if that's at least part of it. In terms of his day to day approach knowing that he is in a lotta ways probably fighting a job another five win season if they go five and twelve fans. Who is going to be a defensive coordinator somewhere else next year. Very likely interesting point. And i never thought about that but i think there's some validity to george. Peyton certainly seems like he likes pick I think that's a parent I saw navy to part of it was just getting more comfortable as a head football coach. You know he's been in the game decades indiana head football coach now this season but he's been an assistant his entire life and i i just i it seems to me like he's more comfortable in that role and having more fun with it enjoying it a little bit more And you're right If they don't have a good year this year he probably loses his job You know another thing too. I mean he's making a lotta money that doesn't suck you know. So even if he lost his job after year three. I don't know what his contract was but then he made. He made a lot of bank in the last three years. And then you know what he goes back to being a defensive coordinator in You know he's for life. Not only him but jim and his his kids and grandkids if he's got any of their all set for life but He just seems more comfortable. I feel like peyton likes them. And let's hope they turn it around this year. You know they they win. I don't know what the number is for his job. I think if they have a winning record a probably keeps his job certainly if they win ten he does they go to the playoffs. He does and i hope that happened. Yeah i'm right there with you. I wonder if part of it too is just last year with covert. Everything was so weird and so much was zoom and no one's gonna accused of being the most technological forward thinking guy that's out there so you know even if he was going to be a little more comfortable last year. There were so much prohibiting that because of the just the daily grind of the the co bid protocols and everything hanging over us you know. I think he was asked today. Maybe i asked him if he's out of conversation about kovic with his team and he goes no. We talked to the guys that are unvaccinated. he goes but otherwise. We didn't really talk about it. Like you had a separate meeting for the handful of guys that haven't gotten their full vaccinations yet and there was a handful because you could see. They had their mass with them. A couple of guys outta monitoring stretch couple of other guys kind of tuck them away But we'll see how that all plays out all right before. I let you run you. Also jerry judy on and that can be a little. We'll call it a hit and miss at times when he's interviews. Just kind of a quick talker. That doesn't always necessarily give the the long most dot answer is just part of being a kid and all of that to some degree but how he when he was on you guys and somehow my name got mentioned as well. Yeah well he was. Good dave logan and i Interviewed him and and he said all the right things He mentioned The drops that he had last season in that he was really disappointed in how that went and he said the number. One thing he's been working on is His hand strength And you know. There's a lot of contested balls in the nfl which is probably a little different than what he had it. Alabama answer And so it sounds like he was working on what would be considered his his main weakness. it felt to me like he's got a little chip on his shoulder that he's got something to prove which is fantastic. Which is a great thing. Oh the kathy. Lee brought up She said yeah She said that Jerry judy's been working with brandon at a speed camp in miami. And i said crystal and everybody looked at me like what also me dave and kathy got a good laugh out of it. I guess you had to be there. It was perfect. Timing like like jerry judy's working with you separate speed camp. Go through your name to the conversation. Man i'm i'm helping you build your brand absolutely you know what i'm a. I'm gonna let you run. And here's what i'll do is the second that you hang up. I will for broncos daily podcast listeners. Drop that right in. So they'll be none-the-wiser will take me a minute or to find it but the second we get done chatting here just a few seconds. I'll drop it right on the backside of that and then everyone can have a good laugh together at your expense. Sure which is i. I know something that you and dave have have mastered in in recent years. I mean people in in the media. That aren't former players. I can run a more effective speed camp than a lot of my colleagues here in down. Like non athletes take the ryan harrises and stoke leasing of the world out of it right. Dave logan who obviously the best high school coaches states ever seen. If it's between me and troy rank cliffs and kiss and folks like that. Even ben and ryan i think i can put together a pretty good program that will help. People get better achieve their goals. Even if i'm not achieving my goal as much as i'd like Physically yeah we'll keep telling yourself that. I think it's always good to reach for the stars. I'm not a guy that's gonna ever tell anybody they can't do something so yeah go for. It rented go for it. Man look forward to seeing how to practice a little more here across preseason and before we know it to east. From saturday the broncos will be in minnesota noonday will be calling in that game broncos vikes after a couple days of practice there with the Guys in purple. So this season's upon us whether we like it or not. It's here long days for me. But i wouldn't want it any other way. I no longer weeks for you and you absolutely love getting the call. The games here for another season can't wait man. Thanks for having me on. Good to have rick lewis on the show. I went to try to find the jerry. Judy part of the interview. They talked about me. I could not find. I listened to the podcast. And i listened to the interview. I don't know where it so. I will check with rick. Check with david with gavin. Jaguars grant their producer but nonetheless. Fun show today tomorrow morning. Be ready for shell-shocked alexander johnson is gonna join us and then tomorrow afternoon. I'll have your broncos daily podcasts. I appreciate you. Listen just getting rolling here. Thanks to rick lewis and thank you. We'll catch you a little later. On the broncos daily podcast.
Training Camp Day 2: with Shelby Harris and Alexander Johnson
"There will be no death by inches. This is the broncos daily jest with brandon krisztal. I want everything. I want all the meatballs and pasta. That'd be training camp practice number. Two thursday broncos country guess we could call it teddy bridgewater thursday because teddy bridgewater certainly had himself a better date and then grew locked it. I don't want to say that teddy had amazing day. Because he was not dicing up the broncos defense he was just taking what the events gave him thrown at short on swing passes play action and then just hitting the receiver in the flat or on a we'll never really wheel route. But there's one time we're tim. Patrick basically kinda ran a banana out. I guess out of the out of the slot where he was pretty wide open Awesome play action. Andrew lock had a struggle for most of the day until the final red zone period of the day. So if you're keeping score at home. And i talked some people in the building whose opinion i trust more so than people who cover the team like myself but a lot of us had drew lock with a slight edge yesterday in practice number one over teddy. Today it wasn't even close and that was the consensus and then a one person. I talked to said that if drew doesn't string together a few more days like that competition is going to be over before it ever really begin. So i imagine drew locks aware of that. He's going to go in and as i'm recording this now. He's probably already doing that. Unless this is during their break but breaking it down with mike shula and with pat shurmur and trying to figure out what he needs to do better to emulate what he did yesterday and and to get rid of days like today although he was a lot of times to verse twos which means the second team defense but also means you the second team. Oh line with them. Is that a factor. I don't know the most interesting thing that happened after practice. Oh wasn't really anything from vic. Fangio didn't have anything that blew us away. But mellon gordon at the end of his press. Conference was pretty introspective talking about the relationship between he and philip lindsay and how that affected his performance last year. So i'm gonna let you hear his two answers. And i'll just go ahead and string them together now jeff leg while though in the middle as president was essentially ending. They'd said last question. But jeff did a good job of firing out a question. So essentially you'll hear. Melvin talk about last year and he got his own head and all of that and then jeff said well. What did that look like or or how did it affect you. I guess was the questions. All i'll give you both of those right here. And then react to what. melvin set. Today you always. You always compete. You know they're always bring someone in here to take job so you know that's just the nature of business And you know it is what it is you know they brought in here to to to be to be adult. You know a dog must off But you know we're gonna come out here and we don't compete every day. I'm not really worried about that. I got to too caught up in that last year with phil And you know what it's not about it. You know it's not about that at all. You know when. I'm coming out here. I'm thinking about what can i do to help. Make the team better. What can i do to make myself a better player. So that's what i'm gonna come out here and do man just utmost confidence in myself. Come here and work. So when i testified i'd do i need to do one over getting caught on man. I can't really worried about you. Know who i'm competing with. That's just the nature of business. You're gonna compete every year. they're going. I've been doing it since i've gotten the league With austin would fill with just with everybody. I've been around some talented bags. And i'm gonna keep continuing to work man. I've i've always told myself. Work like a free agent. You know work like a free agent work like you came in here and you didn't have anything and has always been my mindset. I'm always. I'm always get like. I say i'm gonna do what i need to do. This team that's why i'm here. I mean it's it's pretty sofas planning for a me you know. Just you know a lot of a lot of people here you know. This is if i've got drafted to wisconsin. I mean to the packers or something like that. You know. fans feel autumn media will people feel You know just kind of taken away for like you. Taking away from their guy So you know it was in my head a little bit but you know like i said i got over. I kinda double what it was. And i was like okay. We're gonna share this thing. We're gonna make plays he gonna get his is never going to get called maga call. We gotta go out here in and make some place who's was in a position last year to where we could. I think that helped a lot to Getting over We got put in a position where we could have made the playoffs if we kind of got on a little street and My mind kinda shifted more towards getting into the playoffs. Because it's fun. I've only been one time. But i had a blast My mindset shifted more towards that than you know how people feel about me Being here china. Take the light from phil you know so i was like no. What feels good. Do we met him at our conversations. gird good do great do man. We still talk. I wish him the best Everything he got going on you know. I gave my advice to always dating. We were out there and it looked like competing against each other. People thought we bobbleheads. I still gave my vice. Because at the end of the day you know is bigger than both of us The right now. Like i say my mind says shifting more towards Get into the playoffs. Rather than what. Everybody else thought about me about that. Melvin gordon letting us know that the philip lindsey stuff did bother them in philip being a local guy hometown hero for not lack of a better term. That's what he is undrafted kid who not only makes good as a rookie but makes a pro bowl as a rookie and obviously a great career at cu or he was their all time. All purpose yards leader. It's a tough gig to come in. You're in the division as a rival and a really good player but a lot of people around here. philip lindsey. i thought it was smart. And accurate for melvin. Say would have been like him being drafted by the packers as a kid from kenosha who played his college ball at wisconsin. If you'd ended up a packer instead of a charger and then if you'd have been there and they would have brought in a different running back. It would have been a similar a similar vibe. But i do think it's cool. That their friends and that they were friends last year and that they remained friends and they stay in touch. But i also. I don't know if it's aaron rodgers rubbing off on the rest of the league but these honest press conferences. You get one from rogers. And then maybe in wisconsin thing. I tweeted that. Then you get. Melvin gordon opening up and being honest about where he is or where he was a year ago and where he is now. I did also ask him about the quarterbacks and if he asked to do anything different when either drew's in there or teddy's in there and here was his answer to that. You know what when you hear the job when you get into near they call to play. You know you so locked in on doing what you need to do You know you're not really worried about that. You know that's gonna play you know so we're not paying attention to okay. Will this outside. He calls he calls them more confidently and drew. We refocused on that. You know getting a huddle is about making plays we here to play for whatever quarterback come from and we execute. You know that's all this about me. Not worried about what handoff feel better. And you know like. I say that's all gonna place park and then final thing for mellon gordon. He also given ice breakdown of the two running backs. We know about royce freeman. So he didn't tell us anything about royston. Not sure if royce makes this roster but he did. Give a good breakdown of mike boone. Who came over from minnesota certainly guy george peyton very familiar with and is going to be more than a special team or you can tell by the rhapsodies getting with the first and even the second group but certainly with the first group and then devante williams don't trade up for a second rounder to not use them. It'll be interesting to see how it all shakes out. There's even one theory out there. That melvin gordon's of getting cut. Because he's not a george peyton guy you save about five million bucks and you ride williams and boone. I guess you keep freeman at that point. If melvin gordon did get cut i imagine he would be ram pretty quickly So who knows exactly. What's going on with rams camp and maybe there's a chance that you trade them to the rams. I suppose that's a possibility as well. What would the broncos be willing to eat. The more that they ate the better the draft pick would be all. But here's mailing gordon. They'll give an honest breakdown of the guys in his room. The these newcomers. Mike boone the veteran minnesota and the rookie jonte kooky williams from carolina this explosive. Before being here minicamp. I think Going explosive I think he could be a playmaker. And nothing's got really good vision. Vision feet The game going to be faster when we get in the free season It'll slow down eventually like it does for everyone. But you know that's where you could really get a good feel of you know the player. I mean we are here leading. No pass on so you know. You really can't fill out how you wanted to fill out 'cause you don't players don't pass it their whole different player today my rise to the occasion they might lower. You never know I think both of them you know they're going show us something But come pre season. That's when we'll be going to be especially as we say bone we know we're going to do. He has highlights although youtube and whatnot As far as vaunted. We really could see what he do. You know under the lights jerry. Judy and shelby harris talked. Instead of giving you a little bit of shelby's press conference. I'm gonna give you shelby in alexander johnson and myself talking on today's shellshocked podcast episode eleven. I want you to listen to the whole thing but might as well drop that in case you're listening to both podcast aren't listening to the other one in wanna hear shelby alexander yesterday. Talking about the start of training camp but jerry. Judy will give you a couple from the second year. Wideout who to have had a really good spring in his off to a really good. Start here catching just about everything. Thrown his way no bad drops in the first two days and maybe living up to the billing as the best wide receiver for my money at least in last year's draft going in just in jefferson certainly the best rookie receiver a year ago. And it wasn't even close but we'll see if jerry judy can quote unquote redeem himself. He certainly had a last game of the year. That's pretty memorable. Then i need to yard touchdown pass being the highlight of the game. But the highlight of the year for jerry judy. So here's jerry. Judy who now has portland sutton back. Obviously they got to work together. Some in the preseason last year and early in the year but jerry just trying to find his footing in portland was coming off a pro bowl year. So here is jerry stocks on get number fourteen back all good. How are you know. He's a bit time receiver so have have him on. The sizes may focus a lot. More to so i have a him out real and it's always interesting to know how guys approach goals as von miller the other day if you had any goals. He said he wasn't putting any numbers out there at all that have everybody plays well. The numbers will take care of themselves. Jerry judy told us though that he certainly has goals that he set and that he that he sets each year and and even how he references them on a regular basis. Of course our all my goes down on. Put it on there so i can look at it every day when i use the bathroom. Science faculties read it to myself You know you want to manifest that so I believe in lagos in china accomplishment. Just you know personal. Go to just re read by myself so i wanna talk too much about the one question that i should've followed up with was if you hit those. We let us know. Those are the goals that you wrote down and Maybe i'll ask them that next time or goals. Come up again but jerry. Judy is off to a good start to camp. And he in portland sutton together you mix and noah fan albert working his way back and if the running back room stays the same. I think that you've got a lot of fantasy. Weapons to choose from a lot of weapons for whomever ends up being the quarterback whether it be drew lock or teddy bridgewater. So let's get to shelby. Harris alexander johnson myself from shell shocked. I want you to subscribe to. Shell shocked i hope. You're listening to it but maybe you haven't subscribed yet and if you haven't you'll at least get the middle part of the pod where we did talked alexander johnson. You'll hear shelby bring number. Forty five. the chief beast into the chat but here was shelby. Alexander myself on shocked episode eleven talking training camp introducing big big factor of the defense. Gotta gotta you know amazing guy great story but then also held a bonfire known into the alexander. Johnson how you do and on great dizzy got a little break from camp. So you know ain't got to spend time with the baby girl and wife today. When i camps you know as hot hauser feelings going about today i feel like we had a pretty great day overall as a team. You know you've seen a couple of receivers catch a some deep balls in amazon and they will just great throws about a quarterback great catches by the receiver. Great route running and in the defense be able to stop the run. Make some deflation throughout the Throughout practice and a one of my goals is the cost of fumble. Is i was able to cause a forced fumble today so that was pretty pretty sweet but a pretty good day overall as a unit so i asked vic after practice how do you keep von miller from wrecking practice everyday. Which look i've been around here longer. And you guys. I've seen him do it for a decade where you can just make training camp practices long and vic and this is the beauty of coach. Kinda of i'm going he goes. I don't want him to stop wrecking practice. How nice is it because you guys have had lots of different coaches but the have a guy where he really wants to defense to win. It's like you have. He has to remind themselves that he also coaches the offense. How nice is that for both alexander. I'll start with you to have a defense minded coach. Once a defense to really win every drill. Well i feel like any anything. That has a defense of dishes a coach coz i feel like you have an advantage just overall in the aspect of playing. Because you know everyone says defense wins championships. In awfully we own ways age really takes defense to kill to keep big team morale up up and going away games and stuff so you know we will to play a little faster. Play a little harder and not be told to. He'll get held back on usually sometimes when you have office coordinator day usually below or make do do another play over if the offense don't win or something like that which is fine but you know ever. Since i've been playing football. I feel like a defensive will head coach. You have extra advantage in the game. We all we've all seen that movie before. You know it is usually always like you know in the defense doing good. You know all you guys had a terrible practice today and all that stuff but definitely with vic you know is all about known. He wants to see execution and he wants to see the defense execute and aggressive beauty. Playing defense though is all about all. We have to address each other. You know we both we are. Everyone has suggested you know whatever. The scheme running that day in office has suggested defense suggestion. So you know i. I think it's you know. I i love it. You know i've i've i've pretty much always had two coaches really off as a coach and so you know it's just it's always about making sure the defense lands and and also competed and i think that's a big thing about victims to go out there and compete every day and so but age anger. I wanna ask you a question. And here's the. Here's my questions that i know you had you. Have you've stacked up years so far. You know you've been out out there you've proven yourself. What is your goals for this year. What do you think you can accomplish this year in the league. Because you you just you just breaking heights and for me i never. I never say a low told him though. Always set the goals high. Because you know if you say something real high you gotta expectation the reach touristy and always be busier. I wanna be the number one best inside linebacker and whatever that takes Afars wiseass tax wise. And stuff. Like that i had to get the job done but like One one one goal out put for myself after at every. If i make every thirty tablets i should have at least one. Forced fumble and estimated lead getting hundred from last year. I had one hundred twenty or something like that. I don't know how many cycles advocate. i should be able to call at least five. Five to eight forced fumbles. So that's one of my goes like turnovers in. That's a big bankers taboos calm. But when i get the ball to back that offense in caused turnovers that would be a great thing for our whole unit for the team and build us put us in the next level to be able to be able to get better as a whole unit but might four farseeing wise. I wanna i wanna go to la. We want to be planning for the Allen la so you know we got got the pieces to do it from offense and defense standpoint with the goes r half me. I want to be the best inside. Linebacker lead. And i just gotta make the half goes but what do you a workout warrior. Always post videos and you know you do yours. Do different type of workouts. What did you feel like. You need to improve on this year. What did you put emphasis on this off season on trying to get better. I feel that one of the biggest thing is for the minicam wannabes. Things i put emphasis all was staying square keeping my feet shopping. It's fan lateral. And if i do that. Pretty much covers if i do that. Stance wherein keep my feet lateral. I'ma win that battle. And i won't be out of position man so it's more more being technical sound on myself or as while staying square in awfully knock could be physical Be strong go tear stuff up but just stand square slowing down a little bit. And letting routes development company in me burstyn out to tunis that is over. Overstepping our over plan or crossing over as one little on my game. And i feel like i improved a lot since many camping. I feel like i've been doing pretty great at that. So you know. I do wanna keep improving on that alexander. Shelby talked about really impact. You've had since you started in that charters game a couple of years ago and you're in a contract year. Shelby went through the last couple of years. How do you not let that bother you or is it something you think about or something you can't really even let creep into your mind and the human nature is such that those of us on the earth i'm leaving. There's no way players not thinking about you. Know what next year might bring. Oh most definitely he like is. You're not thinking about date unite in united states. You got your mom right because for me saying i want to be when i'm going inside linebacker elite. That's me santa. a whole bunch of things me being being one of the highest paid me being a set my gender my family wealth those family generation. Because i don't work the nine to five job. And i know how it is the struggle in day in and out in this year right here is one of my biggest years because i got a chance to be able to sit my family straight. I got a new baby girl on the way. And so. If i do what i need to do on that field every single play out just right and never forget give praise to the lord every every day because you know without him i would never be in physician position or a situation to be able to play my dream job during go so just give thanks to the lord everyday and speaking speaking into what you wanna see. Speak about a pray about come into existence baby girl grandma let it go baby. I'll know i said we'll know it is yet. I'm just saying. Because i got a baby girl now new baby on a way to win the new baby coming. When's the new baby coming. Man works a new baby here. Actually about the due date is like a week before super bowl some february. I'm ki san baby girl. I'm so used to saying baby got up. Are you gonna wait. Wait till the shepper. You're gonna find out when you can find out. Because i waited for my my last two. We just showed up. And i go. Oh it's a girl. I wanted to wait but you know he's not going for that. So we're gonna have a gender reveal just between us and and just like close friends in probably be. We'll find out like two weeks or so bureau so in the last couple of questions so you know. Obviously you know guys at a tandem. Josie drew and i see you guys every day of practice but then how do you guys complementing each other. Do on the field every day. I feel i would come to complement each other very very high standard. You know i feel. I would like just today. We communicate real will practice and he may ish the baltimore homicide. He play ball communist. I we need to play sometimes. We ended play with each other and just communicate in just on coverages in drops in pushing impasse and stuff like that. i feel like we complement. Show other real great for for inside linebackers in. That's one of the biggest thing as well. You know you have a lot of duos inside the lead with who loaded abyss inside linebacker. I feel like if i'm playing at my highest numbers on no josie gonna be able to play at a higher level as wheel and then that combined we're going to be able to be at the highest level as duo can be. Then i guess you factor that in with the guys in front of you guys behind you. You got your first round. Draft picks plan nickel-and-dime linebacker. Because they're just trying to get him on the field. How good can this defense be. Broncos countries honestly really excited about the potential of what we think it can be like you say factor in the guys behind this. We ain't going to be putting these front guys like selby per sale. Those guys right there like if we don't have we don't have those guys we can't be as good as we want to be or just going to our job. Which is be in tom's harder so it's a blessing that we got great guys in front of those like shelby steele in awe. Flu got great great ends and everything but if we didn't have those guys it'll make our job tents on harder so that's why we able to flow and make plays just as good as we do because we got great guys holding up holding up offers allama and not let climb as fast and be able to flow and move is man. Appreciate you for your time but right before you go. I want i want to give you a chance to talk about your cheese beast and you know give you chance to you know. Get some publicity out there and talk about your brand. I'm glad to say that. I'll be getting about when i'm all about. The forty five is actually a. It's a clothing. Ron i started scott cd. Forty five stands for chief beasts and contained believing and chief comes from. You know chief you notice as a leader. The beast is usually. Spn wanted to base so you can be a leader and one of the best of your feels. That's that's pretty much achieve based than the continue believing just would what it says in itself no matter your situation. No matter your circumstances you always gotta contain believing in yourself and believe in god you overcome anything and you can actually find on march on chief beasts dot com and you know he goes shop. Got some pretty cool sweat. Sweaters as a be great for football season may say those out and a t shirt that says roar so i think yeah seems fitting right shelby. A t shirt that says roar for alexander the way he is on the field as if it's the man perfectly alexander i appreciate you coming on and taking the time. No it's it's hard to time during camp. So i appreciated my man you know and i hope i hope we can. We can help each other. Gets each other's goals man. trust me. i know threat. That's why those don't be way easier team because you dominate like already know like we felt when you went in there facility near dominate. We've got great guys who's liable besides behind ya but just y'all to in the you know. Have you guys just said the party. And without without without y'all you know we will never be able to be a be seen in the stuff we would need to do on the field to help the team so and also thank you for having me on the podcast in a blessing. Say everybody appreciative there. They have it. Your broncos daily podcast for second day training camp thursday here. It is july twenty ninth if you're going to camp friday again it's a nine fifteen nine thirty start gates open at eight. Thirty saturday return football. They're gonna have a bunch of activation. There's going to be broncos alums there as well. It's going to be a big day. They're going to be in pads. So i think that if you're picking a day to go it may be crowded you're not worried about autographs anyway. So you'll have a good seat no matter what the weather's supposed to be nice in the morning. Hopefully it's not raining too much. It's supposed to rain certainly during the day at some point saturday but if it doesn't happen in the morning then it'll be nice and cool and we caught a break weather wise today it was cloudy and overcast and and that kept the super high temperatures feeling a lot lower but friday practice. We'll see who wins tomorrow. Does you lock bounce back. That's teddy bridgewater continues stack better days than drew. I don't call them good days. Because he wasn't lighting the world up. He was just more consistent than drew. And that might be just enough to win this job. So i appreciate listen and make sure you go. Check out and rate and review and subscribe to the shell shocked podcast every week. You know. Shelby harris active. Nfl player. one of only two doing a podcast. So i think that's a pretty impressive. Pretty remarkable so. Go check that out obviously wherever you listen to this as well and i appreciate. Listen we'll get you football. Friday version of the broncos daily podcast.
BK Recaps The Media BBQ
"We'll be no deaths by inches. This is the broncos daily. Putt jazzed with brandon. Krisztal want everything all the meatballs and pasta. Happy broncos media tuesday. The season is upon us. And that means the broncos daily podcast is back. I thought i was going to take a week off. I ended up taking more time off. Certainly gave you plenty of the shelby. Harris shell-shocked podcast and i'm a part of every week and i hope you're checking that out. You telling your friends about if you haven't yet please go find it wherever you're listening to this podcast. You can certainly find. Shell shock but during the season. That's really gonna heat up because we're gonna be talking to shelby's teammates we're gonna be talking to opponents. We're going to talking to people that cover lead around the league we're gonna we're gonna have you covered every single week. That's why shelby wanna do. It was to talk about the game during the season about what happened that maybe wasn't necessarily as well explained or whatever it may be because you can't always get what you need in a six or eight minute interview on the phone with a player or in a ten minute press conference so this will allow for a little more in depth conversation with a broncos player during the bronco season. I'll take you inside the locker. But i will get you ready for your broncos day. What's training camp is over the way. I'm going to do it now. Because i want to. Use the freshest sound and rather than making you wait all the way until the morning to start your morning and then they practice at nine fifteen after practices done in this case after the barbecue. I'm going to do what i need to do. Getting the sound ready to use on. Koa and handle all my responsibilities air. Then i'm going to lay down the podcast every afternoon so your afternoon workout or even early next morning or late night whatever. Maybe that's when you're going to get your daily dose of the broncos daily podcast until we get done with the preseason then. It'll switch back to the schedule. I was definitely on in two thousand nineteen and it was kind of sporadic and twenty twenty like everything with cove it but the plan is once precedes over. We will get into a daily routine or it hits you in the morning but right now every afternoon to early evening the broncos daily podcast is going to come out. And it'll be up wherever you get your podcast wherever you're listening to the sell one of the biggest takeaways as the broncos open training camp. I guess we have to hit the rewind button before we get into what happened today. And we'll and we'll go do what happened in green bay which happened a little earlier than the broncos reported. Because we're just when i saw it on social media with time difference aaron rodgers in green bay as i think mark murphy even said yesterday that he was already there he shows up at camp. He's going to be a bra. Sorry he's gonna be packer at least for a year. And then we'll see what happens with. Aaron rodgers does shawn watson. There's a little more. I guess uncertainty about his future because he still doesn't want to be in houston by all accounts. They're open to moving in but they want top top dollar for a kid that talented but because of the twenty two twenty. Three civil suits against him. That i don't think are even going to get hurt until february. It's gonna be a sticky situation kind of all the way around so you have to deal with what's here and now and by joel today. So here's who talked in order. George peyton vic fangio. Joe ellis then portland sudden von miller. That was the the five speakers at the broncos media barbecue then we got to have some barbecue provided by uc health. And then thanks to ford. And the broncos. I won an rc. Car race. Beating ryan edwards. Nick griffith benjamin albright romi bean among others. The fastest racer was me. I got this huge trophy. I posted on social media. And then i got to keep the rc car to which My soon to be three year old is going to be thrilled about when he gets to see that so but joel's even asked about the shawn watson today and he said i can't talk about a player under contract because it was basically you're talking around the ownership stuff it was. Hey would you sign off on this. And he wouldn't even really go there but that he's happy with do quarterbacks and so now as we shift to the broncos that's what the main conversations going to be weakened get into portland sutton von miller coming off injuries. And if you go to denver broncos dot com or eric delilah twitter and again. That's eric with as well. My most recent guests Before we took a little summer break on the broncos daily podcasts. eric pulled a bunch of cover. The team and we voted for superlatives. I don't know of any of the ones i picked actually made it. One of my comments about vaughn got in there under bradley chubb a but nonetheless it was breaking down who you think. The best offensive defensive. Mvp breakout player. All of that. And so you can go. You can go check that out but when regardless of how you look at anything as it relates the cortlandt coming back vaughn coming back position battles at right tackle for cornerbacks for essentially three spots on most downs. Despite what vic fangio tell you about how how many. Db's you need. I know throughout the season you do. But we're just talking game one against the giants you're probably not gonna play four corners every single down and then the center battle with lloyd cushenberry kettani. Muti push graham glasgow. Lakers marion in quin minors. The d. line rotation. Behind the three starters the roy jones going to potentially make all of that is exciting. We'll break it down day in day out but we know on the eve of camp. Starting in the rookies all ten of them. Sign plus the draft gaspar all ten of the draft pick signed and then the the. Qb's not just through lock. Teddy bridgewater amber But also by rip and they were all in the buildings. Saturday we know. Couple rookies in carry vincent junior the seventh round. Lsu and jomar johnson. The fifth round safety out of indiana both on the kobe reserve list. They tested positive. Contact tracing don't know what But know that they're going to be in code protocol for awhile. All of that is all well and good buddy yet on the eve of training camp and when you're listening to this can't may have just started. Be starting practice nine fifteen on wednesday. It's all about the quarterbacks so let's start there with general manager. George pay because of the first question he was asked. How excited are you to see this quarterback competition. Really unfold very confident. Both quarterbacks thought they had some peaks and valleys through the off season program. They both worked. I think they both work well together. Very competitive they work well off each other. But i thought they finished drawn and look forward to seeing them compete tomorrow. And let's just go down the list right. Because george payton talked to them vic fangio very first question him was who's gonna take the very first rat he said drew lock and that was matter of fact and then it was followed up with our you going to break down the quarterback competition and i'm actually going to combine a couple of bites here. Throw a couple at you vic talking about the cubes. But this is how it's gonna break down in the early going. Drew lock teddy bridgewater getting these snaps the final analysis. We got these first four days and it will be just like you guys witnessed and many camp weren't here for ota's but everything was fifty fifty. You know what group they worked with. Who started how many drills etc and so after four days i know a lot of you will be keeping your own little charts up there. It'll be fifty fifty unless it's an odd number. Then somebody's got one more and then we'll take a look at it after the first off day. And maybe we might do a day. Were one of them. Get seventy percent the other guests thirty and then flip the next day. You know but i think when you look at up until the point where we make a decision is going to be a fifty fifty thing both from rep standpoint and working with what group now one. I will caution you to is what group you know. We may be changing in and out wide receivers per play. You know so you may look out there and what you view as the first team wide receivers aren't there but the i team line is you know how do you view that or vice versa. So the other positions aren't gonna be always with through. The quarterback is and of course the other natural question when there is a quarterback competitions. Quickly do you want this settled. Because obviously the sooner that had settled the sooner you can just move on. The team can black and better term rally around the starter and get into their routine with whomever that guy being. Well i mean. Ideally like to come at the sooner rather than later. But we're going to let the decision be made for us. Hopefully and if it's whenever that happens it happens if it's so close that we can't make a call and stretches into the first week of preparation then i'll probably be playing games with the week that first game we as to who the starter is. We're we're like everybody else. We we wanted to define itself quickly sooner rather than later. But we're gonna let the process play itself out. He said to caution against the groupings it they might be with. How much more weight is a kerry. If whichever quarterbacks having success against most of your first team defense and i secondary dicing mother fairly good days yeah it has. It has some impact. But you know one thing. That's different about practices quarterbacks. No they're not getting hit. That's not the way it is in the game. So and then i think you need to guard against guy having a really good skelly period. That's really not football either It's good practice teaching moments teaching sessions. But it's not eleven on eleven football eleven on eleven football in practices valuable and good perfectly quarterback standpoint. He knows he's not going to get hit. Not supposed to get it. So you're miss your mission important ingredient there that we've all seen quarterbacks that play better and games than they practice they got that little factor that gamer to him. Whatever you want how word or you wanna use describe it. So i do think the games are important but the practices also though so. It's a long winded answer to that question. Not going on you there. You heard me. Ask that question of acre part of the question as a right tackle question before that. And i said back to the quarterbacks but that was obviously a longer answer than than i may be expected from and final thing on the quarterbacks cubeys love reps and he was asked about peyton manning famously all he ever wanted to do is take every single rep so what's the value of picking out that starter deciding who that starter is so they can get as many reps as possible with the first team because we know the more reps you have the more everything becomes second nature. Yeah i think it's different for every based on their personality. Their needs their feel their health. I know that drew brees. The last year's never practice on wednesday during the season you know because of age and whatever mature right. There's a lot of quarterbacks they want every rep and once we decide who the quarterback is. We'd like to get it down to that to to where it's eighty twenty whatever whatever we decide. But you're right. I mean. I know paint and that was with him a couple of years. He wants to take every play. And you know. The quarterback position truth be told is probably the least strenuous physically position during practice. You know they don't run much. You dropped back. They throw the hand off. you know. Maybe a bootlegger to where they running but they could probably take a lot of reps and not really feel it. You know compared to the other twenty one positions so that you're right and i haven't been around teddy enough to know that if he was the starter wants everyone or almost. Everyone drew's young enough to know that. I know that he needs them. You know the more the better and so as you'd expect you go from the coach the star wide receiver certainly one of the star wide receivers coming off injury and before we get to. How portland's feeling let's stick with this theme of the quarterback competition because we know certainly the theme. That's dominating talk radio. I filled in for joe. Joe with big al friday and monday and it was a bunch of different conversations about the quarterback. I guess i should go on record saying i'm still gonna be team. Drew lock versus team. Teddy bridgewater drew's going to be a starter against the giants. All things being equal. Barring an injury or trade for shawn watson. Which i think's happening alva barring some sort of injury. I i think we will see drew. Start against the giant so cortlandt sutton the very first question asked to the pro bowler the last time. He played a full season. Was how does he think the quarterback battles shaking out. And what's his opinion of his to starter. Candidates i guess is the best way to put it man those do some working their butts off From on the field off the feel you know building relationships really diving into you. Know the the smallest details of that position. You know so. It's a very hard position to play on. I think it's one of the hardest dishes to play in our sport and both those dues or taking the reins and you know trying to really hone in on the things that we need for us to be successful in own. I'm excited for both of those. Things can be a really big count for both guys You know. I'm i'm looking forward to being able to get on the field actually catch several passes from actually being team rosewood as the only guy russell near which was fun to be over to do You know coming off of natio- do anything but catch browser knows deuce was a lot of fun and I see a lot of promise in both. Do's and i. I think the competition brings out the best and everybody. I think that those are competing. The bus often come in for sure. But obviously we know that timing is important and you want get your timing down regardless of who the starter as sherlock teddy bridgewater like jerry judy. In the spring we know that coralline sutton was a favourite of drew locks at the end of drew rookie season and in training camp a year ago. So which quarterback wins the job. That will work itself out. Here's portland's answer to. How quickly would you like to see a quarterback named so that you can get on that same page sooner than later whenever they decide to you know. Make that call of who's gonna be started. You know we'll rally behind that guy but as of right now. You are in a very own tyco quarterback about oh and i think it's important for us as an offense to rally behind both those guys until you know they decide to name a starter and is you know. I'm looking forward to being over to go out there and work with both of them just as you know. I'm pretty sure the rest of the was looking forward to going out there and both of a they will bring unique abilities to the to the game to that position. And you know whenever the start against name they'll get named and you know rally behind him you know. Go out there and win some games and then final thing on the quarterback competition from today's media barbecue. Von miller who we know would like to play quarterback himself and actually even talked about that. I mentioned it to him at one point about how he has said before that his goal is to throw touchdown sack in the same game but he knows about the quarterback competition right now with drew. Lock and teddy bridgewater so here. Our number fifty eight six thoughts on the competition at qb vest and other quarterbacks around lee. We'll do this when we do that. You know honestly. I'm i'm so comfortable with those guys you know i'm comfortable with teddy. I'm comfortable withdrew. I really. It really doesn't matter to me. I think You know both of those guys we can and win on both of those guys and Not only those guys but we got weapons all over. We have more weapons than we've we've had time with jerry cornelissen. Alberto noah. melvin gordon. We've improved off as well. We got the best left tackle league so it should be good. And you know whatever whatever quarterback we roll out there whitman. I feel comfortable. They'll be able to lead that offense. I can go out there and often as we gotta type of women's out there so it'd be it'd be exciting to see our. Let's stick with von before we get back to colon. Hear from joel is talking about the ownership situation here at the end. And that'll be that. For this broncos daily podcast the first one of the twenty twenty one football pre-season so von miller was asked A couple of things that have to do they're kind of they're kind of more big picture. Here's his first answer. You can hear the introspection in both answers. But here's von miller. When asked about how many more years he thinks he's gonna play honestly. Oh shit really helped me be at peace being a piece and being content is two totally different things you know. I feel like you can be a piece or whatever happens. You still want to go. i don't leave you. Don't want to get to play year through do all this crazy style. But i'm honestly whatever happens. I think that just comes with you know with time. This is my eleven year in the league. You know. I've done a lot of wonderful things on and off the football field and last year. I had all of this stuff. Know all this stuff my shoulders kizlar and this and that and you know really committed to the season. I'm at peace. You know. I just want to play football when being locker room with the guys you know i want to go out there and play football. I don't wanna be worried about sex. Of course. I want to go out there and get and do all the things that i've done before it. Honestly i'm i'm really at peace and and i feel like that gives me an internal pieces. Will you know. I can just go out there and focus and be piece. Whatever happens and that's where i'm at. But i would like to see where you know whether the denver broncos or somewhere else i'm i'm totally a piece i wanna play. You know five to seven years. I think i said that a couple of weeks ago. And i gotta sell in a way. I think he's like ten days now. So we're excited about that. And i really want. I really want him to be as where you could see me playing. He can know who that is. And because you gotta prove all this stuff over again you know. He's not gonna be like one of my teammates. You know. I got to really prove you know who i am to him. Every single day team headed out. We'll be with him. So you know the thing with all this stuff is. I'm really at peace with whatever happens and i just want go play football and then kind of in that same vein. Here's von miller on his potential evolution. And where he can still get to at this point in his career as he's now thirty tip i really don't know i mean you know here and thinking about where i could evolve this i i really don't know i can only take you know one day at tom. Tom and feel great. I feel great. And i'm here with these young guys and still run the same and still lifting the same as those guys. I mean the jokes that they say they don't register register to me like you know they would like come two years ago so in that aspect. I do feel older than the guys were when it comes to like you know physical ability and and running and and being able to stick with all the young guys or whoever maybe ask i feel great and i feel i feel great. I feel like you know. I i feel like your seven year six. I don't really have any nagging injuries. I think you know being able to take a whole year last year. I had some injuries before. That kinda healed up so you. I just feel great and we'll see how it all turns out you know coming through a tough training camp and into the preseason with you know i really do feel great and i'm hoping to play like five years maybe even more. I don't want to put a number on it if it's less it's less i'm i'm a piece. I played in league illegal enough. I've been in eleven years so every single year to from here on out is just just a true blessing. So i wanna keep playing along tom. You know we'll see what. God gives me all right two more from portland sutton of course you want to know. How close is he to one hundred percent here. He is talking about where his health is coming off that tornado. Mc l. suffered in week two against the steelers shows vehicles two hundred percent. I think my last percent that i need. Is you know the football aspect you know getting tackle you play a very you know physical sport on the rest of the you know. I've been working my butt off and we have you know. I'm not really so much worried about you. Know the routes the non contacting. Just the you know. Been tackle since september of last year. So this is going to be You know that's gonna be the biggest thing that i'm looking forward to not discouraged about that process just looking forward to a you know playing this sport pretty much my whole life. And that's a that's a part of the game that you come to enjoy you know when you play for as long as you have and you know that's gonna be the biggest part that i've missed and i'm looking forward to getting. And this was the final question that he answered. And i thought it was a good way to and this part of the pod before we hear joyless talk about where the situation is but this is portland sutton went asked. You're in a contract year. There's certainly been talked. He may be signed before the season starts. I think that would behoove the broncos to income to a new deal just after more flexibility. Especially if they're not making any moves for an aaron rodgers or a john watson you can use that salary cap money from this year to kinda handle his signing bonus and then it gives you a potential a little more room and flexibility next year with spreading it out But he can count on the against the rest of the cap. This year is one way to do it. So here's portland on how he's approaching this year. The final year of his rookie deal uncle lifestyle. That'd be the thing that i would love to be able to do. However i know that that comes with no consistent work you know. It's not just gonna be something that's handed to me out to go out there and prove to you know now myself but to my teammates to mr payton the rest of the team the rest of the guys upstairs. I deserve that is not something just handed out. And it's my job to go out there and prove that you know every day in and day out and that's exactly what i'm gonna do okay before we run a few minutes from joe ellis and joyless. Thanks a lot of people off. The top is excited about fans back training camp again gates open at eight thirty know autographs this year because of kobe. But it'll be good to see fans back at training camp. And is he said back in power field my high and before we even get a question about ownership joe Head things off at the pass. So i'm gonna let you hear that then the couple of questions from ryan o'halloran of the post. There's a mike klis question. And then i follow up mics question. So you'll hear that entire little exchange here from joel. Ellis right off the top through his answer to my question obviously recognized in addition to questions you might have about the team or the organization. You're going to have some about where things stand with ownership and regarding the dismissal of the lawsuit. I'm sure you're where we cannot comment on that specifically do to some confidentiality considerations so i'd simply defer to the public order judgeship yonne issued a few weeks ago and let that speak for itself and as importantly looking ahead to the future. I would tell you this. I said in a brief statement a few weeks ago We want a. Our goal is timely responsible and orderly determination of ownership and what that will entail for us. There's some things some things that we still need to work through but our goal is to be able to lay out when the season is over and vickers promise it that'll be in the middle of february that we lay out for everybody a time line to a transition of ownership that will take place next year prior to start of the season. That's important it's important to the organization. It's important to the beneficiaries. A- pat's children to get resolved and we're moving forward on that we're team is not for sale. There are few auctions out there as to what we can do. And you probably aware of those but We're going to get through this season. Our goal is to focus on and have a good year and hopefully be competitive and be around for the postseason tournament. Once that begins. And that's where our focus is so until the season's over you're not gonna hear a whole lot about the future of ownership of the team so we'll take a few questions you came with your dare They're fine with that. I i've had probably. I would say almost monthly meetings with roger goodell in a form of a phone call or actually went to new york several times and just met with him a week ago sunday and main his summer home back there and i went up and saw him and kind of laid out from the plan and He seemed executive acceptable to it. He was fine with it. Actually and had some discussions with the members of the finance committee specifically clark About what our plans are. So we're okay on that front well ownership will be concluded. We'll have a we'll have a transition yours truly won't be controlling owner by by the time sometime in the spring or early summer. I i can't put an exact light on it but believe me. We need to get it. Resolved to take trout inside. Well i i can't really comment on what you know what transpired other than the order itself. But the nfl wasn't a party to this. This was between some beneficiaries of the trust trustees. So that's as much as i can say on. Joe deniro all those questions with britney bowl and where is she stand. Is she still in position to possibly take control the team. Yeah she's working hard and adding value and a lot of different areas And i'm i'm conversing with her all the time we have weekly meetings and and you know in in some form her being able to run the team a consideration for sure it will require some some conditions from beneficiaries and others perhaps but if she is going to run it that conclusion will be drawn will be made sometime next year as well. So that's one of the options for sure. As i said there are certain conditions that come with that. And i'm not comment too much on those because those involve discussions with other beneficiaries and those are private in my view. I guess piggybacking on what might just said oh or little. You said their options. Can you kind of lay out. What can you lay out. As far as what options are out there beyond the team is always possible. Obviously and and that's one and then and then if it's going to stay in the family britney's the really the other option but there. There are certain as i said conditions that will go with that and they come in various forms so they might be one or two other kind of captions within that option that makes sense just. He put a cap on all this. Joe did reiterate that the team is not for sale. And if you're having a hard time understanding kind of all of the stewardship and trust the trustees i get it. It's confusing but essentially league wants a single owner however there are exceptions e mentioned. They could ask for a waiver. Norma hunt is lamar hunt's widow and i want to say as clark hans mom. I think she's cons mom but she technically owns the chiefs. Clark hunt runs the chiefs and the league is fine with that. Just like virginia. Mccaskey i think is still with us. Doesn't run the day-to-day the bears anymore. But she is still technically the bears owner and same with dan. Rooney's wife are ruining the seconds. Mom still i think technically owns the steelers and art renew second runs it so it would. Just be like if stan kroenke down. The road doesn't run the team because he's incapable too old. Whatever just doesn't want to still owns it. But josh kroenke would potentially run it almost certainly will run it so britney bowl and it's a little more complicated between pat bowlen's siblings and then britain bolan siblings. They all kind of have to sign off on being charged in joe. Even alluded to more siblings could still be in the mix which means the one of the sisters from bats. first marriage specifically bath could also be involved. Johnny bolan in theory could be involved. Britney's little sister annabel could be involved in some form of fashion. There could be more cooks in the kitchen. If you will. They will have to kind of all agree that britney gets run play. People think that's unlikely and that the two older sisters basically going to say yes on anything that let's brittany run it. Let the team self worth three and a half billion dollars give or take. Let there be a single owner and then the ball and family will get a small ownership percentage probably on the backside five or ten percent. So let's just pretend mark cuban jeff bezos. They end up owning the team and the bowl and still have their ownership. Swedes probably different than they. Currently have And you know we'll get a ring if the team wins and all that but it and they won't go to owners and more and they'll just be a minority owner just like The minority owners say of the washington team like rhetoric w. smith the founder fedex whose son arthur is now the head. Coach of the falcons You know he or stan kroenke when he was minority owner. The rams right he got a super bowl ring and he owned forty percent of the team or thirty three percent of the team. But georgia frontier was the majority owner so we'll see all plays out joyless did say that he will continue to stay with the organization until the ownership is settled so other that's brittany and any combination siblings With britney really running it or soldier new owner. You will stay on as long as necessary but the plan is to have ownership settled the future owner whether that's sprinting bowl. In or someone else settled by the spring and if they put the team up for sale obviously plenty of people will bid on a marquee franchise like the broncos. There's certainly people that could buy it outright on their own as well as plenty of people that could get a group together to buy. But it would happen. I bet pretty fast. Just like the carolina sell happened pretty fast. When david tepper who was a minority owner of the steelers was able to put the group together. But i i think he almost owns it. Outright the panthers because he's billionaires his own right so it'll be pretty fascinating but if you want to see more of that you can check everything out on the denver broncos website and we all have stuff on our website as well so i appreciate you. Listen i appreciate you coming back to the fold and i hope This is our biggest year ever with the bronx daily. Podcast as well as what's going on with shocked shelby. Podcasts gonna come out every thursday but the broncos daily podcast is separate from that you may hear a little bit because i'll just use some of that stuff if it's timely When we tape it during the week. I'll use it on thursdays for the thursday version or even the fried version of the broncos daily podcast but five days a week monday through friday. We got you covered. I appreciate you roll with me again. Tell your friends were back. And we'll catch next time on the broncos daily podcasts. Maybe we'll see a training camp. Say if you see me. Although i'll be down on the field so you have to worry about me but i appreciate listen. We'll get you next time.
Crystal Lee Gonzalez - The Hustle Behind Pickaroo
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But before I let and get Gary to talk about the logical creatures, I want to welcome our next guest in latest not knocking next. Yes. Yes, Miss Gristle Gonzales hub. Will pick a rule. Hello Hey. Okay. Sorry. I messed that up I usually mess it up but I don't edit it because people know that which already a time I had my so okay I'm a big fan of yours before we even press record I told you I was standing this girl from way back because she she she has an ability to really put things over the top in now it's I want to understand you know how you are able to do that and dissect it. But before I get carried away we've been asking the same old question for ninety eight episodes now but crystal what's your hustle? So, high first of all, hi everyone thanks for having me here Yes. So currently, my hustle is Karoo which is. The, very first premium all in one in on demand delivery. APP. In the country and actually in Asia. So when we check, there's actually no existing. APPs it's comparable to ours Yeah. So that's my latest Tesla right now. Again, I've been standing some of your hustle, but I only caught you in one of them hustles because again in nightlife for my first startup was also a knight was an APP in Iran I. Watch it on twenty twelve, twenty thirteen is called Party file and the game is not easy. I've been there and I don't think I'll ever do it again 'cause it's super easy. It's not for everybody but before we get carried away I, want to buckle up because I want to understand how you built your hustle and we're gonNA, ride the Hustle share time machine. Sounds like a fairytale but again, I want to understand Chris Wind you started out right our was of I, inclinations or I recollections at you've had hustling at an early age and was business really something that you thrive in growing up. Yes Oh well. I remember even you know my one of my first memories rights as much as I plead with kitchen stuff barbies small this. One weird thing I remember always doing even when I was young was I would have these late receipts. From National Bookstore like those official received look in receipts and I would apply you know an accountant or like a manager in signing them in like prices in provide. The moment I learned right and Yeah so I would do that. I. Think even before I learned how to write and would like I am. I in a way of remember with my mom, I remember my Mommy Casey signing checks earned. That that I think that influenced me a lot plus I grew up on. Both both fancher breaking, I hung out a lot even as early as nursery with my on was a director of the hospital and. And she always had me around and I think all right after school I'd be in her office because my dad's also a doctor like her and my dad was just in the in the other floor working. So I was exposed to her doing meetings holding big meetings. I'm you know having all these people go to her? So that's my early childhood record collection which I realized like eventually impacted me and I guess lake you know like it also affected how? How I wanted to be especially since my aunt was also a woman right so that was my impression foot women do they the the they manage and they run stuff? So I thought that it was me alive and then ask for like businesses I think my earliest recollection was I think I was in grade for. And I started to sell specifically finding and. I started to really cute like underwear. Okay. Wow. Great for there are some. Underwear back. Like. I said he didn't inaugurals cooler. When you agreed for grades five, you don't really you're still like awkward stage. You'RE NOT GONNA constable foods by inner garments ride in a found. There sexy or anything but they were cute and they had all kinds which backend back in like background that that year I think. Now I'm sure like all kids get by like all kinds of designs anywhere. But that I am their limited options or not allowed. This is an IRA might other on were were selling some The issue is brought I think imported stuff from from other countries. In. Asia and brought it here and then You know I decided the sort of gun sign and the bill and it was sold out so that that was my I I, end founder of. Hi. This is spun licking on selling stuff and you either a niche market they're approved up that. Late, it was constable to buy for me because I was there classmate dried you can't ask your mom or your newly that I'd be like, Hey, can we have like some? You know like other kinds of undergarments. By. So. I was like the constable choice. Right especially again, there's no each Marissa back. Then you know the best you can get as really again a few months back in that time wrecked. Direct Selling S. It but. You you you can sign it for your. That's amazing. So there you go from a very young age really had you know the guts to do that? Because most kids I had to go through that a little bit growing up when but it was by force I lost three phones in one month and my mom you know they asked being total idiot in college. So my mom was like Yo I'd have money anymore if you WANNA buy a phone. I have makeup here in. You. Know in college. But. That's also when I realize that you know what settling is such a power. The whole thing just because you wanna get over that initial hump or the first wall, which is embarrassment. Once you get over that, you can conquer anything because most of the time people. because. They ask you. It's so as a you know, why do I have to do this? Once you accept that back man you're gonNA make a lot of money. There you go but. Here's one thing I wanted to dissect because when you took when you went to college I'm link invite away stalking you from the bench from the very money you took masters of scientists and management most people that I know not all again, not generalizing never ever generate generalizing who have parents in the medical field also suggest that their children go. To medicine, how did you define the pack that you wanted to be in business? Lucky enough as much as mentioned will. Lot of my family doctor. So my actually in your. I mentioned who is director She's absolutely a neurologist and my dad thankfully enough is a psychiatrist. Wow, which is amazing for me I think because I grew up with a baron that was just the malls supportive the most understanding. Sign, I know up to this day. you know he never even pressured. were. Only two sisters. My sister followed his footsteps. Actually my younger sister is actually now also say Kaya just like might my father but I think growing up in that kind of environment. So my mom my mom used to be a banker be be far shared third when she entered tired after my my sister was born but they were just boys very, very supportive. We grew up in a household did just you know let us be they let us play. We never really had strict schedules her or anything like this So. Yeah like there was really never any pressure even even in school or more other more like you know what course to Baker anything like this. So even in terms of activities and hobbies on, it was always up to us what we like like when I was young I was digging Bali lessons and singing Lexin that is because I liked it more than more than it was. My mom liked did for me. So yeah, I think that that was a big part of you know like how we both grew opnion my sister. Okay. Let's talk about how after school was because you have a celebrated career and stints you've had here blows me away like what? I keep saying what's amazing when let's start at the very first job because there are no matter how good you are again in in in school and whatnot everybody goes back to zero. It's a level playing field. Again, her the people that you know get a head start are able to to find either one of the tour both first of all first of all, they get a good boss because somewhat actually jen modem them and give them the second part, which is the right skills so that they can shorten the learning curve for you after school. What was that briskets that you had in the first things that I guess the the your mentors or your early bosses Well knocking luckily when I was in masters so how it all started with house in my master's program and we were required do since since the Masters Program in in my school was cut through a year and a half, which is normally two years I'm it had big plus one of the requirements is to be working I think the latter the. Yeah and I was very lucky because in my master's program on the opened up this company that time ep l., d. d. we just under the bill, the group and they opened up. Lake. four slots for that very specific internship and he got in. And that's all and I interned there and after in there and actually disabled that's also how technically aboard. Thank consider my first boss was by boss there in in. The End, his name's are Dana. Much from that guys literally made loss even as an enduring an after my stint in emailed the godrej amended by somebody ability who worked for smart, which is a sister company. An endless you are, and that's how I got. My first real job actually was in smart. yes. So right after right after graduating I, already had a job in a garden on smarts. How may I jump starting? Okay. Now I'm curious about again the skills, right just. A lot of kids are a lot of people coming come out of college. Some of some are it's really a matter of confidence. You know that's what sets the the ones that really get far early you. I'm pretty sure you are very, very confident coming because you wouldn't get these opportunities if you weren't. But Aside from confidence, you need to turn that pretension potential into real skills or the skills you learn in smart and your next inside. Se Ladera as where right but in. SMART. That's That's a big company to start with and at the forefront. This is where SMS. Like Gosh. What was that like and war skills you learned in the the things that really you realize very early on that sin. Yes always see I was so no you know I was even if I did my masters I'm still a fresh right down on it. It helped that I had an internship in I. Sort of had a little bit of awakening even before eerily going into the real world because of that internship but working from EPL, which is obviously a lot smaller company, less a smaller team and then moving into lake it's like an old shine on being smart than at by. The. The world bitty much are the country revolved around. Those stood out goals of. And up and others just love them to the competition. The. How fast based it was Helbig the teams were and it you know it was. On a jet like corporation I think like some of the learnings I think that a up to this day is. Really bidding much just having skin. Also especially. Coming in their so young, the youngest is being on in especially in my role. Was One and I. Think it was good though in a team in honesty the opposite of what you said that I was confident a game in. Your. Yard Way why? Feeling very insecure like I'm so young like Yeah, I really felt like I had to prove myself. And then I still remember feeling like it was still a very male dominated kind of. Yeah. So I really learned to be a bit more like skinned or like you know like not take things personally or anything if my boss told me like, Hey, you know like we're presenting tomorrow in you know where something Nice right like I didn't feel like Oh while harassment or anything that's offensive like I took it this like well, I am a woman and it does help if you look a little nicer the meter. Resume. Yes, and my our rule on a all that time the in our department does very new. It was called mobile advertising on. APP The by win. Seo Missiles to the thing let us know facebook. Yep, that time. So everybody was. So into this new thing SMS advertising where you can said millions of people are still message on their phone. Authority personnel advertising real plenty oh five. Vacations yet. Some birth. Galatian yet that by burt very on their regulation. So it was super new at the super fine You know we had to pitch I personally had to pitch as well. do all these other big companies so are all might make nine said I'm we're like Nestle procter and gamble. Unilever those were the in. Lake how my boss at the time I think like. taught me was just being an example. So I observed them, he let me like you know shadow him, and then eventually he just sent me Allen, my own on and. I think I was lucky because that time the people record there may want since they were like older brothers they were into. All David they were. Like Dot. More like a big brother teaching. You are held you. Learn. Stuff versus really like having lake in our very serious abroad up. Yeah. Yeah. So I got thirty. I remember that Dempsey's also young those in my twenties. I even got to talk about them doctor them about my pers- life like if I had a lot of them and they were advice. I think super inboard import bunt at the very early age I think was destined delegated on how do balance and control you know personal life versus like work. Yeah I remember I remember them lake teaching me that you know like you have to be able to do the still get your shit together bringing up. You. Know like the regardless of what was going on right anything. The fact that it was a big corporation incorporate earlier all these other added stuff like processes organization structure how to work in teams and a lot of different teams because especially I think I remember attending meetings and there would be plenty to maybe thirty people in one. That's party. Email trails that cod like you'd have the same twenty thirty old needed to add and copy in. In startup actually, it's the opposite. It's up in very different like you keep eating short and small. So it was so nice to have experienced also that I know of learning and you know the whole seeing how bureaucracy is all these very. Things I really learned so much to be honest for when you say up life eventually down the road like Oh. My God, so this you have you know that. Yeah correct. You have. The ability to. Reno just because some people that also just did start up straight up don't have. We'll have the I had to go that that subtle that Once I got what my company Chapman acquired all of a sudden everything was bureaucracy film, my God what is this right? Then I had to learn hardly but before we here last week after smart, you did St loader now are the marketing manager and at such a young age given that big responsibility. How did you? I'm skill become becoming being the follower, the becoming leader leader what did you apply and how do you get that opportunity? That was a big challenge for me especially, because I think I got there. I was really young. So I was youngest again on but this one's different because you're you're leaving it So IRA. Yes and it yeah it was some mother like the mother brand of the whole Estee Lauder Group Ray is that say lighter also on Mac and all these other popular brands like he can all these but estee lauder is really the most premium their brand so it was may first time to encounter leading. Leading people for wine but more than that I had to lead people that were even the same ages may mother. Yeah, I had people under me. The beauty advisers are some them have been there for over ten years on there were the ones that you know. client do client facing with the customers in the malls and they're the ones that you call beauty advisers. They're highly trained and all of this all product and they've been there. For many years. So to be honest I researched. I remember even researching that diamond. Like online you know, how do I even think I watched some movies Nobody night because these people that have been there forever the already have tradition to back into especially if you're coming in young and all of a sudden, you ruffled the feathers ended there. They're going to gang up on his noble how we do things right and it's hard to get by in if you don't get them to be on your side. Exactly. So my approach that time at least you know. What I thought was was what worked was you know they not coming in like you know everything for one because you don't. So I embraced the fact that I was young and I acted. As a younger son. So I asked him to teach me and a learned from them actually. So that's I. think that was a big big learning for me because. it was a very challenging and yet very humbling experience. Exactly because you know you, you can't come in just being like all knowing that you know better. So I think that health to my approach that diamond learning read they're. Just learn from them. They've been there longer really study the business that does also my first time I think on like a awful L. I'm by myself and it does The Renault systems are like advanced systems yet that time everything we did like man pretty much for casting of inventory and the inventory when you talk about makeup is like hundreds with different colors in it. So projecting for those in exile sheep manually was I think a true best of. Of Patients. Andhra I, guess your hard work So those are I. Think some very memorable things I remember this day live. Those are core skills. If you're GONNA be ever ahead haunch or a big leader in a company, you cannot survive without excel. It's impossible. You don't have the Sikorsky Skill. You're you're not GonNa make it I'm sorry. No matter how good you are people skills because these are hard skills that you know especially, if you're dealing with data good luck if you don't have that skill at the back pocket. Right. 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And we're back still at Crystal Gonzales beaker who again doubt don't ask ask what the Hell is still. taught us how she then grew up becoming a manager but after that, this is where it gets interesting because now after Esi litter you became. Part of the Yahoo Team Strategy, manager, and eventually the marketing head Yahu is spirit that and they were. You know at that time? Two, thousand, Ten, twenty, eleven twelve they were right hand in hand with Google right? What was that experience like and? Appears perspective I know a lot of ex yahoo beeps who are now leading other companies to in what they do. So Madam lobster those people. But what was that like for you? Yes for me was my dream job I mean I thought Estee Lauder was deemed August I was in May twenty and it was made its makeup of course but then Yahoo to me like I've been fine of Yahoo since I was even working smart, it would be my homepage I would look at it every day on its where a base, all my news, it's my email in all of this I was a fan. Maybe for date for years, even before I got to work there it was truly truly marine job like I didn't even care what position God I kept applying online. for maybe two years before I got a call from them and actually thought, I got a call from them because I got up lying online it turns out it had nothing to do. With A. You'll get like I'm maybe thousands of light applications were able. It had no connection eventually I got I got interviewed and it was smart her sales role actually a strategy year old that would just part of the sales team. So young started in the Philippines Mar as a sales theme. Initially. So it was very cut of course You know we just had to keep selling and selling reaching numbers, but I was lucky that the team might hide in the boss they had which opt now is my mentor, her name's earlene over She. was was a mom but she was a mommy been is which was so good for me because she demanded US you know the treaty molded are spent them training us. She spent time correcting off, she meddled with their personal lives and reading guided the core but liked about Yahoo zero eighty trained their people. So they sent my yellow expansion was so fine and especially the at the young age you know they got the travel which when you're young one got the happening for free read the Oh my gosh like I got to stay in a nice without in Singapore I was aggressively Yahoo Office yet homeless yell at Super Popular that die in the Philippine it wasn't like the opulent other countries other than. Is King then? Hero. The fact that we even had. Why am right. So so I'll just obsessed with it and like I said with a fine anyway. So it really felt like God dream come true. So every single day I went to work everything I did you know that? Every back did it feel like a pass to me? It felt like an excitement I had so much joy in. You know like I remember with somebody that diamond who was so upset at need saying I was a workaholic but being it didn't feel like work. Don't. Mind, if I was asked to do my job that time was like a strategy manager, which manager I had all debris sensations as well on power point at this point that I'm so all the presentations mostly were I had do it and I also had the do the actual recalled it I all insertion orders. Which means it's got technical or and it's how it within the system if there's an ad that was placed. I found it so fun being able to do though presentations and really creates shaggy and think. But at the same time, I also had a little bit of technical work to do that. If you made a mistake in that in insertion orderly and you need than an extra sheets, I and eventually goes in this. If you let him meter mistake with one zero, like that could differentiate from one million to million job. That's how horrible it like. A very small room for mistakes. No Room at all right. The fighting to the clients was based on Sorta like aired diamond peavy but this one of the units or the impressions she impress clients. Yes. I think wasn't even being at that them yet embu for investments in all of this, like one added number could literally change everything I. So yeah, I thought that was really a lot of learning from us all. How did the Yahoo Experience change your perspective in tech because prior? Yes. SMART is. Pretty. Progressive Company but still it's not a stick s Yahoo Right. How did that change? Because I'm pretty sure you learned a lot of things in that stem that you're able to apply when you're the head Honcho in vibe over and you know Cambe in honesty, right? Not Not. But you know once you get the piece of deck, it's sticks, rides it it's. It's it's so it's liberating in a way. I think for me. First thing I noticed was reading the culture because before Yahoo. SMART, then later, it's still very corporate like ESI letter still corporation it's a very good. You know corporate base culture and the ways of working still very corporate. So young was may first at Beck and almost likes not restart up but they in general. So I really loved how fast based in how they make loss in how how much innovation in education there was in general on and how everyday with three different from the other day something I know this with incapacitate, estee lauder, allot of these the same. So it's more tradition base breasts in in Becua- there you can't be bound by traditions just because. Technology. It keeps. Evolving, right? Yeah. So That plus I read like that for the first time in my Lebanon still quite young that I didn't feel like a young person I felt like just like anybody else even if a Lotta Michael or them you lick it didn't matter. But they didn't seem like the thing Yes I it's the first time. I think I felt comfortable. I felt like I had equal opportunity. Compared to any one like we all had the same opportunity regardless of your background, your experience or your age and I think, of course, the people you work with right in the kind of culture I. Think I realize how important that is for growth. So young for me with radio radio greed like place to grow not just as a professional. But even as an individual like I said, it was it was more like family in in a waivers. All corporations it's yeah it's very dear, friend security. You'll go there to work like business exhibition. So with with IAGO even win you win eventually met regional people are yet. It still felt the bit close knit like I got to even talk to the legion, all head and all of that Imma Inc.. Oh my God I remember in in smart before I made the mistake of. Marketing head that I am who was like the most everybody just. Not, even MVP on it was the marketing head that it was there is no major losses. One was that marketing head to other with the sales ad rights I sat beside a conference through this is. The marketing has an I. felt that was going to get tired that they just because of and even know they don't teach you that in school but in Yahoo you can stay blocked or out of hand, right? Yeah. You could it regional meetings like you know that you could ask questions you would on talk if the give suggestions. Yeah the the the regional had attended the same conference issue like I just loved it i. loved everything about it. All right. Now, let's let's up the until a bit because, I'm not GonNa get into all the details because you also did a short stint in Lozada and tribal were worldwide but the next big stint where you really came through apply all that love for tech. But now the the the the whole premise different 'cause you're the country manager owner Beiber in the Philippines directly then all my God and then I remembered this is where I found out about you does your painting, the town purple invited I don't know what you want to call it I'm colorblind. Can't really define. European. Into town purple. In life and I was like the clubs where purple and Labor Acai was see new. Unlike. Wow. So from that point on what were the things now because even if you no matter how much you prepare. But when you are the head hunt show and country manager of Beiber which still now mad props you crystal because Beiber, the Philippines is a vibrant country because of what you guys did. It wasn't as big. And Brown update if they whenever I hear the ring or somebody says fiber me, I still get person and evade killing because. My dream was market. Sure. Delors you ate it up right. Everybody else didn't have a chance right what's up y'all okay. But that was facebook before but you just literally. Made. It, explode. Don't talk about that experience when you were country manager eventually, you also become the regional head of Beiber to what was that let? Well. Honesty I just thought it was GONNA be fine. My my honestly thought I was crazy because you know it's like what because all the other companies before that I did for me other than Lozada, they were popular band tillery were established this either in joined they were also nothing yet. It's unheard of as well but yet vibrator and the fact that it was based in Israel and had to fly to Israel. I was still quite young people like twenty six or seven something. The fact that you know like I mean, my my parents were used to be traveling in a ladder. And Yahoo did travel for work but this is. This is traveling to it. Is L. by myself without the group with me because before in my travels, I would be in a group like the other people in developing would also travel with this one does your seen the I I was hired just me I was a lawyer. So many I begin imbiber I was in Israel as well On. Yeah. For me that that was the appleby the-they're friend level lake on. So I was very much in love with how the APP was planned and how it has this concept of connecting freely especially that I'm when mobile data. And Internet West just so high, you had the. Wealthy do even able to for that and. They will treat your signal before. You had your calls you balloon at your estimate is giving them and everything. So the best I guess black from the by was already still ym away but this was like, why am on steroids you? All an shad unlimited in any country eight on the anytime anywhere. So for me the push US Open mind blowing that idea I guess because I gained from Dell goal I understand that the potential of something like that in a way and also having worked in in Yahoo with Ym Right? So the moment I learned about the platform this like it just blew me away in I remember even before I started. With fiber official day I had a little notebook in Eric Bland. What you mentioned I I I wrote there like I said vibrant and vibrant life and group that I wanted vibrant literally. And for every single person to be using it in the country that's amazing and again. That's a big vision, but let's dissect it a little bit because there's ultimately admission that you're when you come in and you order to a country manager saw there. So mandate and there's a metric unique to hit. What was what was the mandate and will what was the mission attached to a guest I guesstimate metric because at the end of the day? Yes you're GONNA have to do a push or do you can't let your customer acquisition costs go awry and just go haywire without having to acquire the user set got oppose that. Yes. It was super simple actually went on my last day. They finally I ask for you know what lab to do like quicker that argued site. And they gave me do things why ns the budget for the whole year in a how I wanNA spend that on whether it was hiring the or are you know Louis Benny than marketing the other one? Was the main key to just acquire x amount of people? hiber. That's it. So. The the goal and the metrics given to me was very specific on acquisition of users leaded. Okay so everything we did so i. kept the theme small actually won't believe it but beware, just five people know. Columbine fooled by by the whole one. I had fighting be bill with me. Everything else was outsourced. That's where we put a lot of the money. So we had this thing that will I I had this belief that you know like I wanted to make sure that every dollar that we spend it went back to the user. Absolutely so That they felt that you know that if you are a vibrant user, you felt special you've thought privileged. So we always tried to find a way to like the. You'll feel it as a costumer versus just investing in be expensive commercials and celebrities. which by knowing, we've never in the whole history of Beiber Fade I liberty. That's amazing. You did it. You know as grassroots as possible sponsoring parties were thousands and millions even came up and again people were buzzing. and You were you did it smartly leader not difficult or h? I'm pretty sure there's a little bit of that but the way you yet. Mike how they're that's the other thing I had. If it was already done before, I don't WanNa. Do it saw I was against the a heated Darpa Lynn's distinct yet tharp ways use like Also. I hated lake logos being Leith they I hate doing sponsorships wherein like sponsored by their million rans there on. So all the usual things we scrap like every single idea in gone sept had to be new in never been done like -Vivor Acai Lake. The concept of you know just for me was about invasion and that's actually how I said it and called it in eating. So all the people that there could be no use that were the law they always said like when invade this day I went to invade. So we invaded Seibu will fade already invaded Metro Manila. We invaded events breath by which a lot of people for Metro Manila instable go anyway Yeah we invaded for me it's invading the whole country it lake thing I've got into flesh house blow it away but my. The how We wanted people duty steals around and really feel free. So a lot of the things we do work we did we're free like if you had vibrant could have gotten upgraded through all. Em. If you showed, you had vibrant. You had a different entrance in that bank Levy. Or? Are Over. Garesh. That's amazing or any ABM Poncet for that matter. Premature. Redid all about eve the. Old The wave at the right time because EDM was popping it was bigger than anything if He's like yelling and it was really like that. That's what I. Think. The big of a lot of the nightlife people went out not once a week they went through clubs like three times a week plus attended maybe one concert nolita. Correct. Your no was the real thing like narrow and. We became you'll though yeah, and we like our main target market was really on the they'll mean influencers, which are the young people. They're the ones that each their MOMS and dads and their pizzas and their looks like what's the new thing which senior APP so we use those people that we knew we're GONNA be ambassadors in their own families and sure know all the deep bash in. Now all the law left Manila Awesome Beiber could Vince. By those people don all right now let's say again, victor the stakes higher again because Beiber was the end you you just keep upping Biondi, you became the country managing director of honesty and you you guys you know painting the town yellow again talk about this this this whole I was a heavy user I and when it when it crashed and they go by them, I gonNA gain. No. Well, let's talk about a data India. Some of the highest, and of course, the the the the low I guess what was but let's talk about what was that that you now instilled knowing what you know now into honesty and how were you able to grow with that? Best. Right. So firmly, honest meal is also a little bit scared because I was so comfortable already with fiber and especially we were able to make it big not just in the Philippines but eventually when we launched it then Southeast Asia like me and Mar we all soul who you know made it through the big there. So but then the timing for me was also because I I was giving birth to my second child actually I gave birth of my first child I was launching Labor they great. By Barack I think. I was pregnant. So. We're going to my second child in a new. I couldn't sustain the whole trout billing all over. Asia plus is your else. That was when I decided that the on like a more home auto based or like A. Mini. Role other than I had to. Singapore every so often. But I was just mind blown with again. Idea of honestly especially, because I was that I'm pregnant. So I was about to give birth on December that time when they contacted me and when I read the old file and what the APP can do since existed in Israeli existed in other countries, we were second to the last think with second to the last. Yeah Yeah I think after US was just Japan so we were second to the last we they were already available in Singapore, they want in all these other entities. So I was mind blown as a mom or that I'm pregnant person. On how could vehement and like it was like a dream come through that an APP? Like that existed because it could deliver your groceries and food. you know. So formulas mind loan was in love with the idea and so launching it for me. I looked at it like from amongst perspective and they you know what would be the items in Branson stuff that needs to Be There and yes, we actually started. From scratch I think I came in there were maybe less than twenty people that was hires Radi wire me they didn't have they couldn't blood also because they didn't even have a grocery partner so they couldn't sign a rancho. So the first thing I did was you know like try to close Rabin Ah Sorta the robinsons grocery on yes of that happened. So thankful to her, she dressed it off and it just exploded eventually. So but in the beginning too scary because our first market idee. The the study with the study rundown does that people were not comfortable having their groceries spot for them. Before. And unheard off that. Then there was maybe this one small player locally that you don't make they never hit critical mass. Oh, it doesn't hurt off rate. So we knew that the first thing we had to establish with the trust and the hygiene and you know all these things so. That was one the other was said. I did launch it more like a functional APP. But what how we presented in the beginning was that this apps you die so what we actually sold more than two seeing, you know buy groceries and food here what we said and communicate that West that this will help you give back your time and that you can spend more time for the things that matter that's always wanted it in the beginning and at worked. All right now before we think our last week, I have do questions again, this is From your point of you, right the first question I wanted to ask. I'm meeting amid all these. Things. But let's just factor in probably let's take a look look at it from a numbers point of view or the metrics. Data that you can all trace it back the metric that did not work. What metric didn't work in honesty that led to its mice For me. As a company where I learned or noticed this that. In terms of metric leary eighty were in there eating wherein smart about spending in general not just like you Dana Shoe but they hired. They just kept hiring I remember they would talk about people like if they were just. which I kept telling them that's not allowed in the Philippines. You can't just hire and then eventually gorgeous because you don't need them anymore. So we never did that here. But it's just how they like operated, it was like and he wanted to grow at all cost. and something is always fun. Yeah. Something always flagged West you know like a lot of this directions given when it's not sustainable for any business for that matter. On so it was good at all costs. It was very unrealistic targets Asked for not just from us, all countries Lakewood growth expected was like triple digit Oma job how? The. Exact, which means the only way for you to meet that goal is if you you, you know, you're really bleed every single thing. On the growth Andrew did massive promos and stings. but there's of metrics. Yeah. They they weren't careful on you know really following Lake Roi. Basic. Ardo is our basic blake bake. Hurt me it. And I got used to it because as you know, my my back on is very corporate dre. Lake, my background was smart estee. Lauder Yahoo also was very, very strict with numbers and spending with vibrant different because that was their goal daily what their goal was not like sales or you know Roi or anything they just he wanted acquisition and users because they're eventually came out that they were gonNA sell and these little direction. But for for honest the you know no one knew what their end game was a the C O. said he wanted to be profitable, but the directions were not after often known. Your growth and more investments. So for me, I think that's a big big learning really you know making sure that. I see it a lot of startups do that though I, I know for a fact allied of the. Caribbean tech companies I not even really busy four or profitable bod. You know the for them it's about more valuation more investment but I think. It should change already at this point after what happened to you know those companies weaver were You know there's already so much learnings learn from that. And then you compare it with companies likely Candar eight where I rick for a time as well that you see you know sustainable companies like that that are able to grow, but at the same time. then. Profit and sustainability. So yeah. So it's the Asian way of you know profit over anything, but still maintaining growth at a healthy rate without burning the whole runway per se right Now. Alaska, she You you stuck it out till the last day and I saw I saw I remember this video that you posted it. They were announcing one thing and you're saying, Hey, we're okay here and whatnot from from your point of view because I've also lost a company. Party and So. Most Gut wrenching thing ever you know there's nothing like failing at that skill, but that's nothing compared to how it was pretty sure you or the captainship in the cabinet ship doesn't LE-. That's the last person leave. How was that experience for you and what did that teach you? that time I still had a little bit of hope that's why you know I weren't announcing. We were closing or anything because up to the last day honestly also kept seeing they were still had. They never admit the been penalty off never ever odd to this see the only bursts first person that really told me that. There was nothing with months already after I've left the new. CEO. So the outfit, the always founder, the ousted him eventually a new CEO got in touch with me months after and actually I the investor himself event out we only had one investor this one guy who was the gun of LG is Ryan. Eventually he called me up after I resigned and asked to stay and if I could help. You know bring it up. But for me my one major requests them and I was willing to take it on. Major, requested an was you know to babe back I the money they couldn't be back to some of our suppliers and buyers. Yes. I said I'm willing to help and do as much if you cannot do that. It's a no go for me because so I also come from an elegant in Chinese fat Burien. which is a combination that quite Guinea which I am very, very good border stringent. But at the same time, I also don't lie having any sort of debt. Through with them as usually like ever on even an person alive never so our houses is fully paid all our regards for. Nice. We don't don't let me I don't spend beyond my name. So the fact that that happened in the the be completely completely held that information from us. In fact, they even made it appear that the company was growing. So for me it was really you know like it was it was against my values to subordinate. Amy Bernstein our annual company that kind of thinking, right so the only time we knew the truth was to be honest that we only found out the truth when it was ready costarred Kamaruddin Tech in Asia, and the first hint was when I got passed on this by one news where. In. Taiwan the restaurant owner started harassing the people in Sloth. This wouldn't be. That happened at least a month before I decided to to close the office here and the operation and speak, and it was after they also were delayed at least twice already in sunscreen. But here because I don't advise vines here, we don't have a just why even? Be Wire everything's the it was the same imbiber. Normally IT'S A. On which a lot of people here don't understand especially, those that go is not in for International Comfort but even fund blow the money here. Do you invite them like supplier. So Raven Erol, even everything and the problem was even all the sales on even all the sales all honestly goes to their Citibank another column. Yes. So when people say like Oh league worst emerge. Not Sitting there. If we deported every to a certain account bureau. You'll, yes, that's what happened. Pretty much. Okay. All right. Let's Let's take our last break. When we come back, let's now talk about the Unicorn and you're gonNA paint the town with UNICORNS. We'll talk about that more after the break. My is Jelly Victor I'm Jay. You check out the team podcast real parents facie modern problems together. This is brought to you by nutrition team podcast network Asia. He is the fourth season of Hustle share and we've come a long way since we began this journey last year. Now through all the dozens of our episodes of you're done here, there's one common denominator that a lot of our former guests had to go through which was integral for their startups success, and it's none other than idea space. Now, for the past eight years, idea speech has helped support some of the Philippines leading startups like timeframe, rennovation, tax, sumo frontliners, and invest grams. Now, they don't just do that after a DSP's competition that they do every year because they've also hustled from the start and help wrote a startup. 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But before I get to do that as your life now, who is again, very, very exciting. You also worked for Canada and again I have had A. Close down. Yeah. After honestly close down actually the truth was that a little before I closed honestly I I already started meeting with cliff Yeah. The one of the the goal founders you can ask even cliff was one of the go founders initially when they messaged me, I said no because. Honestly, it was so. Successful that was happy where I was right Yes. So it was a weird incidence that kind of started engaging me even before what happened happened with. On. Kind of aw actually in the CO founders. Where with me also out. So they even. Got The it in the news and we just good because I didn't have to explain myself or anything on. They knew what really happened in how you know the it was HBO office that really messed up the finances But in a way, it was a blessing because the yeah right after I had to leave. Honest be I I had kinda. Do you know? On and canvas is not even notorious popular for having great culture in. Great. A great business model debt scales. So what was that experience like at least you heal your ruins and still contribute to bury amazing team because we we've had a country manager here a few episodes ago to describe the culture. But when you're now the CEO and you're the one running this whole ship, how do you then pick up lick your own wounds in also contrbute allot to such an amazing company? Right I really appreciate the on the founders specific leaving were just the kindest most humble nicest people I've ever met. So it was refreshing for me that coming from an honest being held toxic it was and how traumatic it was to to be with with the people in Canvas specially the ones in Australia so As much as you know like is was fish being in in the Sydney Office with with the kind of people was just sorta fishing on how positive they were on how you know it gave me hope especially for start ups strike because convoys already profitable company, the they also admitted. L. Super Nice they have a good APP on their super had a very good gotree especially in interest in Sydney. Having been there Yes. So I spent I. Think I, think I went to me. Twice I think I believe in I really fell in love with all the Sydney specifically and how I think for me the meeting the CO founders melon cliff was just a big big inspiration. For me meeting all the people that have been with them since the beginning were also very inspiring. Yes. It was really the people in Sydney on the HR head there the marketing in Sydney that's been eighty very helpful and I. It really gave me a lot of hope especially coming from you know like a not. So positive ending with with what happened with honesty. Yeah. Okay. Now, let's talk about beaker because now you are doing this again, but the difference is your zero one founder. Why did you want to do again I I want to understand the the thing that you know delivery on demand was again where. Like for me I'm trying to attach it to my own experience when party file died and I didn't WanNa go to any club deal. Now have gone to a club in I. Want to go back but you're in now it's your own company right with your own idea, your own execution. It would old market that you tapped. What was that like in what led to you wanting to you know do unfinished business i? Yes wrong. So I guess like it's super helpful for me having. Learned an experience what happened in the past with honest because there's so much learning to take away from that. At the same time I think all the companies I I've been with right even kind father though the last few months that I was with my learn so much radio and I'm glad that this time around since I'll I'll be the one running the day-to-day for for bigger the over it. I knew that I could use all the learnings even all the learnings I mentioned earlier event from smart I can use it bow on for this one since I am we were building it from scratch. So so Kevin Kevin's after the founder of Kevin was the one who approached me initially about creating something but before he approached me, you know, of course like me and. My core, even his me for always felt like we had this unfinished business. And also seeing how the customers and the partnership behind you know the they always said, they miss honesty and they missed the service in. and all of that you know it was really inspiring. The feel that we were s than that we were still needed. So when Kevin Kevin Approach me because he's also been wanting to create like a like a startup from scratch on a Beeston on divisional funeral empowering retailers offsite etailers. And I also had that. Feeling of unfinished business and I wanted to do so many things. And evolve on. So many things even from honest piece I did want an honest I. wanted I always had so many other plans on that I knew was needed especially for MOMS like me. So when we come line those idea us and we both knew we had the Bashan to do something like this. Yeah. The top pretty much started. It started we had the meeting of the minds. We both got super excited hearing each other's similar visions you know about the startup we wanted to do, and we knew we we had to do it on our own our way and from scratch scripts. Because I, think I was also at that level or stage in my life where I wanted to do and create something of my own because all my other. Says it's just more handed to me late it's Arabia an existing brand in an existing. But this time around for the first time, you know like there's an. Ep to eight something and when the moment Kevin said that that he was open to that now that you know he was open to like building something together. That's a treaty. I think. Got Me very excited. Again I I totally agree and I can relate because nothing beats. I've always been zero to one guy idea to you know and it's so hard because you you. In terms of getting these things done, and now you've seen perspective success and you know a really painful experience and honesty what what did you do differently now when you launch bicker started. All right let's Kevin you're in I'm in. Let's do it. What did you did you do differently to? Take a long time to really launch it some startups frigging take forever to just to get an MBA attraction. Had IT pretty quickly. Yeah actually yeah. That something I ended teamers super proud of because. Aleksey seven over seventy percent of the word happened in the very beginning of of the lockdown, not even Kobe but the beginning of the lockdown because everything we did before that was more like it's not the difficult stuff. We did bad name we'd this strategy, but even the market study by Leonov, we really were scheduled to do the market study in then the lockdown happen. So the market study even became ten times more like needed an appropriate because everything changed the priorities of people in the the spending habits. Yes. So I think the timeline was also good. You know in a way everything just felt like everything was just falling into place much like every time we did something every time we thought of something like it. Although more worth it was just reaffirmed through the market study for example, then on, we got the results of the markets idea and then. It just confirmed all of the plans that we wanted to do. Even in terms of the categories that people needed. We knew we wanted to do beyond grocery and food drive because something that's been done like three years ago it's nothing new but. That's what we really wanted. Even last year when we were talking that we wanted an APP that really combined all your needs and essentials beyond grocery in one APP and we wanted it to be all undermanned because there's so many online dot com trade. Now, right like a lot of the marketplaces the Gab, your shop and design they still not on demand and we knew we also wanted to empower the brands that we work with the more premium higher quality ones because right now, the middle of the marketplace is a marketplace, which means it's Hodgepodge of everything. So the beauty of it was is that you know Kevin Being having. Years over ten years or almost eighteen years of expense malls and working in bail himself. We really have an edge Afridi knowing what it feels like to be a retailer Yeah and we're eating now able to empower these offline retailers that rigging with because we we know how to provide better quantity. Our APP operates like almost like a premium wall, you see the logos of branch you don't see that anywhere else. You see a hodgepodge of pictures and then brandon things. You don't even know like if you're a foreigner anybody new in the city, you wouldn't even know which one sir legitimate or. Not. And so it's a hit or miss, and we don't want that because life is already stressful exodus especially now we WANNA save people the time the hassle the stress of even order need or even worrying because like I said, it's always a hit or miss with these marketplaces. And a quality for me is like something really really spent a lot of energies and investment on. So something I noticed also especially being a daughter of a doctor and being mom, right It's a hit or miss some delivery people a that delivers gyna- looks bit clean but allow them unfortunate. Fida they. Look like they wash their hands. And for me, the fact that you operate it on her motorcycle probably delivered. Are there things that minimum? Requirements should you actually spray alcohol in front? But they don't. So with bigger that something we heavily invested on like our people are in full BPE's and mass. Yelich we provided this, which is again, not on other black because that's our way to protect our people we want to protect them, but 'em at a saint at the same time we also predict our costumer. So they're. They have face masks and masks we did in them and teach them and just to be extra brisard minor in the APP that they operate became not accept the job without dig marking all the reminders they need to do from pitcher techniques and. Through even there there's like we asked them specific questions like, do you feel like your throat this itchy? Do you feel like him because not a lot of people understand in our educated on the virus yes. So yeah those are some of the things that we really really invest on and I did that in such a fast and efficient way that I saw recently that you you when you launch, you use exceeded already expectations of launching and I'm not suggesting be honest because you've already done it so many times in so many companies. But while what what's the what's the future? Like I mean we've not now you're out the Kangaroos fly I, mean the kangaroo, the be the unit. Is Already Fang around the city right and riding along with all these writers with what's you guys? It's a for us definitely were super focused right now in continuing to improve the APP that something we're very obsessed about. We were very proud of that our APP in how it even looks in the user experience right now, I can confidently say it's the best in the market. It's the easiest use. If the cleanest it's the cleanest, you'll see in easiest to navigate and yet that's one the product side but more than that, we're going to continue to expand. So we get a lot of requests from. Even farther cities that they want us to be available in their areas where other guy be in Majori parts of the Metro but we're going to continue to just expand further and in terms of brands that we have you'll be surprised on how much they greedy good quality brands there are but you don't notice them because they're not. You can find them in just place but now it's bigger. We have those sober also busy with on boarding and dicing all these stop partner set behalf. We announced three hundred I. Think before even end the months on we're GONNA have over four hundred, maybe even five hundred bands because we've been launching almost fifty brands a week thus crafty who new brands of 'em these are already regulary that like. He called up by our business development team. You need to have been either quested into website by a lot of people are we found us through do a lot of buzz word of mouth in either communities or social media? Yeah. That is amazing. But Crystal before I let you guys have a couple of questions. That we can pay it forward to the founders and entrepreneurs because again, the pandemic also has created so many under banners. Now that you know by by by forests are by accident, not not everybody's an entrepreneur. So it's high time and I WANNA, get your advice on several things well first what's your dip for launching because you've always successfully launched something without burning the the whole thing right what's your attack especially as as someone's launching something and you want to get enough traction that really gives you a hockey stick moment. For. Me an have cited earlier. It's really about being unique in being their friend. I've mentioned that event with Beiber. We also did it in Yahoo eventually when it became marketing head, we did do anything that was already done before So that's something. I think I. Consistently did for the brand launch even for honesty we made sure we we were very different how we look how the personality of the band was in how we engaged with people everything was just different with. Of, course something we knew as well. We knew we had to highlight the hygiene and sanitation because something nobody was really doing well or focusing on. We knew we had the focus on on the APP and make it useful and very minimalist and premium because that's something Kevin. I observed that other APPs were a hodgepodge and really difficult the US to be different than everything that you do. It's all in a lot of this in. The, small all the small details. So really making effort to be unique in different for me is like this the mean the best thing you can do because a lot of people normally in the big copy it's addity Filipinos now They just thought the amen even even now like we know this certain then copy sorry I be from our APP that's being replicated in in this certain on APPs as well. Even evicted for years even make sense. But. Yes. I think making that conscious effort and choice to be unique and different dirty is what will make you in all right I. I'm also curious in terms of management. You know acid leader as a you know CEO watered it tools and systems you like implementing across all of these stints at Daveramsey done at never goes always gets a fifth. Oh, there's a there's a couple. So ever since I'm used to doing weekly meetings and we trackers. So we alignment meetings sometimes even more than weekly that. Super Barton's I've I've been practicing that I Bali learned that even smart. So having those sweetly alignments having that weekly project packer. where that that's visible to everybody is also another super important thing for me. If you don't put it on paper, it won't happen if you don't put it on paper plus you don't put a date on it, it'll never happen. So everything you do even on a personal level it it can be as small as like doing grocery. You're like vacuuming the SOFA that all needs to have like a proper schedule and timing any goal. This is something I wrap this I think since I was may be really young in grade school I learned it in one activity we. Putting all your goals almost like a vision board I think that's something very helpful on you. Do it I in a very macro scale like you know your dreams, your wishes, your hopes in live. But doing it in even work projects Jax on anything everything you want to happen the having that sort of vision mission plus tracking yet uneven a daily level making sure you're on track that said something super important. Okay. Last question before I. Let you go and this is something you said that's looking know in the Chinese the night in you what's your advice in handling cash flow because especially right now you know everybody starting out, you know it's it's very cash flow intensive that if you missed that up you, your ability to roll might be stunted as well. What's your hip in managing cash show that you can actually use that cash to grow your business further? Yes a for me when I'm bored that, they've I can give her fashion Louis really think of every single and Babo. US like an investment on the cheating that way versus like looking at it in a in amounts, big amounts or Bor I them. Because it's easy for you to justify it. In your head if you WANNA do something like this expense state, you're GONNA spend in March being late this expense versus you know this other expense putting a number and that versus like thinking about if you had like every cent bow bow founded for like what's the best way to invest that they'll come back to you So before doing the cash flow I would like try to note I and think of things that way like if you just had nitty one hundred vessels or one cent thou- would you put that in? That's how you base your priorities on the other thing very aboard that nudges for business, but never ever spend beyond your means. and this is why I'm not a fan of lending or having with them whether it comes from the bank or from a friend or a family member if you have to. Ask for money for have be on a negative if it's not, it's not a good start. Good to start on a negative. Right. So I think unabashed local that's something very important before you spend in or spend on anything in fact Chai to make sure that your your your income and your status is radio bit stable. So something without of the tyree, the different, the and bigger. we did even spend in. For a couple of weeks on the allied of the FBI are you saw that Treaty Organic Biard WE WE HAVE A. Team. But that's it. In that sense it's just project based so we didn't even be the. For those any of those. That we got that's all organic and not be Yeah, and before even dusted out some of our online ads, we wanted this either a guy nick and to enough if you have a good product, you have a good vision mission your genuine about your purpose on it should work. Yeah and for me that something super embarked on before you before you spend make sure your stable I on. Incoming, because a lot of people have this thinking that you have to spend I do something but that's not good because then you start at the negative already in the very beginning in, you're bleeding pat shop. So Stick Zach for me. Yeah and all the more the stakes are higher and you know you you take your clamming stuff, right? Because you're being chop. So for me, it's that super super helpful to know that you shouldn't start the negative. That's correct and. The I guess is related to this because if you run a business, it's not. Start a piggyback. Where if you put in, you can get it out right away. You know you have to grow it and you have to be conscious that you're not gonNA be relying on your businesses, a cash flow to provide for your own as well. Right because if you keep drawing money, say you make say or what not and you get right away then you're always negative does like crystal said because this whether it's just bitchy spend the salary selling right now or whatever. But if you always draw for your from your business where it hasn't even been able to sustain itself, it will never grow. Exactly Yup so I've been following that same same with fiber like although we didn't really have CEO Spicy, but you know they just spend all the money in. In one goal like we we had a little traction first and then we did more being and then got a little more tractor and then we did for marketing versus like flipping everything in one basket than not really knowing what works are not so there and then I think other, you know testing things out before you're eighty fully invest in anything spend anything make being sure being sure to keep your overhead snow especially in the beginning. Also, I, think like another important part of that was usually that's the big part is just either though the operating expenses alive that also involves like the had gone this well I see some people that already wanting to invest in office way they're suspended. Yeah, exactly again, wrestle much as I really wanted to ask you I know you're busy but again thank. I hope you had a great time. Yeah. We ask some really, really good best friend. Before I let you go us in whatever podcasts after listening to and again If you did see some jargon at, you want get more context. About it's going to be the show notes and hustled care. Dot Com. If you WANNA get involved on how we build the show of. Community. In the. Chat Bot. Slash, also share powered by chat. Bristle. Thank you very much. Thanks a lot. Can also you guys in the next episode.
278: Fort Plow
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I'd story as old as time itself and I was made fun of because I dressed up for the dance and they made fun of over addressing. God Damn it was really mean so is in seventh grade and I was not A. I was a little disturbed. Well I wasn't though I was beginning my remember I can map the path one. I decided to be kind of a different guy seventh grade. I did write a story from Mrs Lindstrom. Who's and called my mother? Aiding wrote a story about a father and son who were CACTI who owned a bar. My mother still has it. Oh my God I should. I should bring it here and read it sometime. Mother still has them. We should we should put on local theater. Yeah no they're going to play and to my mother's credit because Mrs Lindstrand not only failed me for that project but also call my mother and so that I have problems with. My mother had a meeting with her where she raised her voice. The whole hour that. Why are you holding my son back? This is obviously? He's been very creative right now and I was like yeah and I look back at it now and I was like. Wow like everyone else's like I like Michael Jordan and I was like I'm writing a whole long story about like like Michael Jordan. I like. Mc Hammer you should do. A woke. Netflix CARTOON ABOUT TWO CACTUSES. That own a bar so cool father and son. Cacti who own a bar and I knew what a bar was because my parents take no no question as to why I was basically raised. A bar got raised in a bar and now that than the bars no longer exist. If you ask anyone on the Internet bars are never coming. That's it they do. There will be a dill. Be a different experience. The world will never be the same. It is impossible that bar can exist now or they'll just put a sign on the door saying not responsible not held harmless. Not Responsible if you give your mom disease if you go in party at the bar and then he visit your mom and then you get this. Whatever that's what it will be. This'll be it'll come down to a litigation. I want are worth cited today. That people who have never shown the slightest proclivity to finance or economics today was like dry. Everybody pulled up the Wall Street Journal. Say all of a sudden ever became an expert at international petroleum. Only everyone became fucking Charles. Schwab all of a sudden because the oil should the bed for no reason. Whatever it happens but it's not in a bad way it's like we have too much oil good. Nobody's driving anymore. But the thing I mean if I chain everyone's like we'll how how can it be negative? That's impossible you're a moron. You don't do you like I. It's actually good that somebody's willing to employ you because you would not be able to run a business. It costs money to store things things like you. Are you selling it at a Net? Negative and that law these the same people who tell you that billionaires are like immoral like it's just there's a there's a saying. I don't speak Latin and I'm not GonNa like try and Butchart? It's shoemaker. Not Beyond the shoe rap. Yo when I have drywall question I'll come to you. I don't need your fucking your input on the oil market. Speaking of Greek Vinnie Fatty. Then I came. I saw I came. What the Hell is every day? Have any that's great. Yeah I just made it up. Oh okay came saw conquered Veni Vidi Vici but I say in Vinnie Betty. Finnick I came. I saw I came not gonNa say where I can know. You'll find the same couple of places you come back Tom. Book a book. You find them. Come into the good book you get you get a Gideon Bible and you've having a night at a motel. Should I start doing that? And this year when I when I travel I came in. Oh Yeah like. Start a whole you to start an instagram channel. Come Bible I feel people would get so mad at me. Combine people would know why people people would be like. I don't know why I don't like this. Someone deep inside like me and my grandma wouldn't like there's something I don't like here is me doing come tributes not on a printed out color photocopy of a porn star like or like a like a a judge a Japan emission girl. Somebody's somebody's wife ultimate disrespect. Come tribute somebody's wife. Ted's wife maybe they're into it though. Maybe or like our Unicorn. We had to let go. Oh tribute tribute to you. Ma'am now you come on the Bible new slam the pages shut fucking Dun Dun. Leviticus gets the splash. Who is the guy there was a guy on vine? I think is going to sound racist fucked out reasons. I think was tyrone. Oh He's great. He's only he's on. Somebody's wife on Tick Tock right now. He's superfund it's so zone like chemical oxygen cigarette out of people's mouths. Yeah yeah he's Great. It's unbelievable I love it so much all right. I'm glad I was right. Not I'm glad I was right in there for proven to not be racist. Cheang enter? You can sleep at night congratulating. Yeah all set. Some of my favorite tick talks are black. I don't know I know I follow took back the other day to talk to tack. I would send cruiser missiles into the Tick Tock headquarters if I had the head of the one of the only things keeping US going right now. I have a really good story about bibles. Join US please. When I was growing up when I was grown but as metalhead I have still growing so growing because hung out with fucking people who driven driving for a long period of time and grown men in their thirties. Who would like sleep lane? It's hint with a twenty year old girl trying to pucker stuff like that. Outside of a they had a party at the House and then they put ten outside to fuck girls. That's cool. Yeah I thought it would but I at the time it was horrifying. Because you'd walk by and you'd hear like Oh it's like a civil war fort employees. It was off the incident of somebody getting their legs sought off and they're fighting down a rifle bullet there misses fucking backwoods Hick Shit. But you know you'd be like Oh you hear fucking beer cans. Clanking cool. Yeah come on babe that Kinda Shit like really like cool. It was like Freaks and gigs but like cooler. Not Fun frigging tricks gigs. But very metal heads like metal a metal mode. Nothing was cute. There was no like I'm GonNA follow the dead. There was like you're going there. Jason Clapper's gone. We'll take your top off and he will lick your chest no question. He will like your boobs and you will do him and then he'll ask what happened. That's cool but anyways like metal head Felicia. This was full Luger perfect but there is an old. How abandoned Howard Johnson's where grant off Exit Nineteen Shit? Oh my God. I just got dizzy. So our Johnson's fell on hard times and closed down. Feel like like I feel like I'm in another world but give or take a lot of acid and you're just intel world you're India by the way it's pretty so when we kicked out of the malls like nine thirty ten o'clock and then it'd be waiting for the one person we who are to some good who had an actual job in the car pro try to give us a ride We try to get around and then we We're GONNA drive than we did. We'd like let's go to the all jokes in what we do. Is WE WALK UP? Mock up the hill to the exit. Nineteen Hojo's which was all bombed out fucking burned out many parties happen there and it's like throw. I'm GONNA throw this chest of drawers into the pool which they tried like the guy who was caretaker. Would hang out of the station across the street and would like just see us be like stop these five fucking psycho from destroying a boarded up building USA. Say don't set no fires back there. Pull up remember. You have like a like a Chevy Vega was like really loud really small car you know like a chevette brand new premium and and don't start no fires. Downer and I'd be like all right you know. And then he'd back out and go across the street thing but there was this kid who we kind of knew I think his name was like Judah Jason. No thank you corey. I don't remember but he was like really ever have a member of your friend. Group who like Memory Front group is is the person who is trying to break into your burke and associate an associated person. Who's trying to get made like a early? Chris Malta Sante only or like the Brandon. Krisztal dishonesty. Gotcha where he's like trying to break in but he's keeps saying the wrong thing and he gets beat up by Tonioli shot whatever but we have a cultural writer. But we didn't know he's like older than us but he's just try. He's a cul. Writers parents moved here because those a navy base in Saratoga and his parents moved here. Explains lots and it was a Navy Brat but he was like twenty five and still live of this folks and didn't know what to do and he lived in California and he's like you guys went to a metal is and then we were just like start pushing the fuck you talkin about fuck you. Of course we know like we live. We live we're strawberries. Let's it done like okay. Cool Guy. I'll give them then. We're like okay. Cool guy like no his viable shitty from the beginning so in order in order to really celebrate the to really break into our friends circle. We when there's room we broke into the rooms. I remember you I. I really like nervous because Ken Hall. Who is a tough guy in those with us? He kicked the door open with one. Kick boom made a really loud noise. I'm like Holy Shit. This is the night sheriff's this is the one and the room was like perfect room that nobody had broken into yet. So of course I hear. It's people started spray painting. Alec Faulk Ike on the wall and should break somebody who's like really trying to break the toilet off it's fucking mountain and like all of a sudden came out everywhere and this kid got Jason. I don't remember his name for the life of me. I don't remember his name but he pulled out a open. The drawer pulled out a Gideon Bible. Watch this and he's still on the bed and he pissed on the Bible and we were like mark. Dana was like cool. Dude what I could see in a movie right now. We just pisses on the buy one. That's just like it's not too extreme for us as metal heads were just like. Why don't you pissing? You're looking at your long and skinny Dick pissing. I don't know what kind of California's shit hole you can come from. He's probably like inland empire like gross. Kelly Sill Mar California yeah fucking Fresno Yeah like like Northern California Gross. But and we're like. Why did you like anything he did was like a bust? It was great and then he liked disappeared and I saw him when I moved to all the Nassau him years later and he was doing lights at Accua to really weird found his little niche weird and he was like really in a rave music and shit and I was like what's up to his name was Jason. Jason Course his name was Jason. Because it's in California. Yeah but he piston a Bible the moment because it was dark but we like it was like. Why are you doing if he had just not become a raver? It really could have caught on the black metal early. You really could`ve. It should have been like dark. Remember the band dark from around here. He could've burned down the newcomer chapel. Some Shit mccown Ville now. Wow Yeah Jason. Wherever you are man. I'm sure there's a a needle and there's a there's lanes of rubber tube next to you at some point. Maybe he went back to California to take his bride. I surely hope so he liked he liked the NS S. I remember. Who is a psychopath? Your win this is when the song suicide blonde came out. That's where you can triangulate the time. Because it was in the song. He's accused sing it to himself Sylvia blown and then the triangulate. The timing we'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA find out I'm thinking like ninety three ninety three ninety four. Maybe not do too bad. I have gotten at typing on my fingers. Way Too big. Yeah I'm like I feel stupid. Yeah all right yeah. We're really doing this old school. Just phones up to the Mike. What year is that from finding right now? Pretty good song actually. I'm only he tried to. I guess because metal heavily only release one thousand nine hundred ninety so this was really early. Wow I was where my fucking parents. Jesus say yelling at your English teacher. Maybe was onto something. I was thirteen and I was in a in a blown out abandoned hotel watching somebody pissing a Bible at least one. Those guys is killed somebody since then too low. I I there's one kid. Jeff definitely killed somebody who got away with it. Oh Wow all football with. Tam was that after he killed somebody. No this was before he later on when he won. He really didn't like my way I didn't like has and he Was like wait later on and I'd moved already and then I read the paper one day because I kept reading the paper but he got in some trouble at a pub shit. Hit a man killed them oof. Yeah One punch over the line. This is why you don't fucking just hit random. People know you push them. Then you do what I do. I didn't tell you about my thing. Yesterday I actually. I thought about it earlier today but I was like. Oh I'm gonNA save the PODCAST. Yesterday I got into a physical altercation about not wearing a mask watson with a man who had his child with him in because I was crossing the bridge where the guy got stabbed. Yeah crossing the bridge and a man is there with the child's and he looks at me and I have you know my my bullshit and he looks at me and he goes mask. Oh Fuck you and I had a little a little snappy moment and I just got really close to him and put it on and he standing. There was nothing to be done. I kept moving. Get moving back and then after thirty seconds. Got A kid with them like this. It's going but definitely benched him down. I would throw them off the bridge if he'd never kid with them. I'm asking you have masks on it. That's the thing Kitimat but it also wasn't. Yeah it was. It was done in such like us. Goldie way yeah this dude I We did the world a favor because there's mass colds are the new like worst person. Covert comps and now. It's masked old fight mass. Colds mask olds. Yeah like most. It's such an Albany thing too because it's probably listen. Jay Street and like a Brownstone has no worries at all and then he's his one thing that he can get over on anyone because he probably screamed adult almost certainly one thing that he can get over on. Someone is Basque. The same dude. Who's like it was yellow? Yeah I will ram your car like or if you like. Leave your car parked. Go into the gas station and get a drink and come back out. He's like should have moved record like somebody who just has to speak up Yeah I wo- I hope. Somebody says masks to me Monday. Yeah it was. I mean it was one walk up to and be like I don't feel so good on the interesting thing was like I wasn't. I was perfectly fine mood before that. And then it happens and it happened so lake it happen on its own energy so much that I was fifty feet away before I had any sort of emotional reaction to it was. It was just mechanical. Like put it on. Yeah I mean it was right around my neck I get put it onto put. Put My mask on. It's right here. Just reach out and touch my face and put my what he say anything. Nothing nothing and I'll just kept backing up as I get closer and that was it. Put It on deck. It was. It was fun. That's great. That's really good yeah. I really hope that child's first memory is his or her father like being little Dick by deb is the best in the history of little decking. That is like really good. I was pretty happy with that one once I another. We're talking a little digging his father's in front of their children. I remember one time I told the Dude. I'm like I'd hate to kick your ass in front of your kid. And because he's like was being like being a nude she's being like you cumulus spot awful fast. My kids right here. I was like sorry you cop. Are You my dad? Then you can't yell at me and he said Whoa and I said I'd hate to kick your ass in front of your kid dude. And he's just has to be more careful like all totally defeated but also has to get the last word and see you later then. It was like this was a key my car so I made sure memorize. His license. Plate number was fun. Nice very good yeah. That's really funny. Jesus Christ people yeah. This is the era of the knowledge. And I think that even after things get back to normal though still be people who'd be like. I'm just not sure it's going to be. This is going to be the way on expecting this to go. We were talking about this. A little bit for your record is my Lord we will have so. Cuomo was aiming for the fifteenth of May. I think by. May First People be everything that businesses will be fully lake saint. Fuck you into being outside is going to be too nice everybody. It's in the same way that we run out of toilet paper or we another tragedy Commons thing where everyone's going to feel like I can go out because I'm only doing this. Every single person's logic which amounts nothing amounts eight zero. So we'll have two weeks of people doing that. Then we'll have things will start to open up again. The really fun thing is I think in early June. We'll have another rash of cases like all of a sudden we'll have like a GOP froze. You know back inside everyone. But no one's going outside. That's thing so don't governor even copter today. He's like when this nice weather getting people to say and so I was going to be really hard. Yes it is congratulations right. So what are you GONNA do? Yes so I mean but I think we are going to have maybe the weirdest summer of our lives and this is going to be everyone listening. Men Put your headphones deepen for this one. Its who dares wins summer? Bears when there's GonNa be a lot of money on the on the table. They'll be a little leg on the table just like you who dares wins dot of taste women men. I want everybody listening. I want every overnight Dr Listener to spend this summer being a fucking pirate a hedonist. I I want you to suckle. I want you to just take what you feel like you want this summer and then in the fall you can go to. Church can do confessions. When I don't know I want you to drink hard. I want you to chase around. I want you surround now. I mean if you're a woman you know be a little how it's fine if you are whatever you want to enjoy the company of go after them men women and you're going to run in the scolds and you know we do with scolds. We face motion them. We get close and we say do they. Do it. Put my mouse gone. I like to see a try here. Summer of Stacy's Mama clarinet. If you guys are really dedicated to being overnight Dr Pirates you'll drive up and down the main drag of your town blasting this out of a Camaro of some kind. I love the I love the breathing into it. Nothing happening. It's my favorite thing. Yeah so that's you know I mean we're trying to make what we're doing which people hate is making the best of a weird situation. People hate that hate it and I encourage everybody out there to make the best. Yeah of a weird situation and don't like people don't like I haven't. I'm on a conference call every day with my co workers because they for whatever reason have we have twelve o'clock call or just make sure everybody's okay. It seems super necessary right and people were like. I haven't left the house and Saturday and it's like a big flex and then they get to me and I'm like I'm outside right now. I'm outside right now. Actually Amer got my tank. Top catching some rays. Now she go up on your roof and get aluminum foil fucking thing. I'm not coughing on people and I'm not licking ice cream and I'm not doing irresponsible. Shit I just like to leave the house most days. I did some research yesterday and everyone else. Who's out there? Who's also done research? If I'm wrong about this just go ahead and send me the. Send me the the study. It's fine. I could not find a single case of anybody. Catching outdoors doesn't mean they can't I know but it just like I can't find I can't find that data and that seems very relevant so I don't know I don't know if you stay inside you'll you'll find the curve. Lessen the Listen the motion. The ocean sure but there are there. I mean there are people sneaking out. Oh Yeah I've I went out like fucking seven times this weekend. Great Wow Nad no care. Yeah did you go to a speakeasy? I did not know nobody has been ballsy enough to fuck an openness speakeasy and I know of. I've heard of other places but nobody nobody who's to this right now. Who could now? The Best of my knowledge has no because then if people found out it'd be oh my God I really like I would love to have a speak easy because not only would it be fun as faulk right but it's a no man. I can go in there and like open carry. It'd be fucking great. It'd be them. You can just have like the old times it'd be like it'd be like Red Dawn but after the bombs. Yeah exactly account accountemps city. The United States is taken back Kelly Matt City. But it's like it's like if they had red dawn to which I should have had. It's crazy that they didn't have that. Did you ever see Conan the barbarian who really never off to arguably probably just as good although in Conan Barbarka destroyer? Not a great movie wilt. Chamberlain is very really in that. He's really in that Livia Dabo from the one hundred years. They looked up Jason Hervey today. Really weird she is in it and looking very good but also is very much like fifteen. So you're like oh the gun. And she's got like a like a very weird scene with arnold words like who look especially knowing what we know about him. Now it's like Oh man. This is a lot right but Grace Jones killed sure. Yeah she's awesome. She's incredible and do you think that Grace Jones being in that film influence Tina Turner into being beyond thunder. I Bet I bet it did thinking that too. Because she had a whole thing because I wouldn't take her as particularly tough but she played a tough role in that she had a song. We don't need another hero. Those okay right. Yeah I thunder you. Hit No my notes. Because I'm on a real MEL Gibson kick. I watched Blood father when it was on Netflix. And then I just went down the rabbit hole. The started a lethal weapon fucking blew through all the lethal weapons scream at a woman now. I might be gay for Mel Gibson. Okay officer being Jewish. Now I do that all the time. It's fine not no more than usual. Dear God he's just the best so good. The first lethal weapon really really fucking manic energy that entire movie. It's unbelievable it's great trump. Let's jump right then. He almost has Danny Glover shoot him. Mazing US really good on my mouth but Christmas tree things. Shoot someone else man. It's good that's the kind of copy what I'm saying. I don't want these. These fat cops were like they rolled out of the SUV cops needing SUV's as not A. It's not like they need like getting gas mileage. Worse gas mileage and slower vehicles. All the cops are fucking fat. No it's just our body armor. No we don't really fucking fat and they need a let me stretch out for this one. Eight tactical vehicle of course explorer ASS. That a mom drives the soccer. Practice suddenly is a tactical vehicle. No they need room for the rocket. Launchers can somehow by for some reason municipal fucking all this insane shit they run for the Guillotine for the man who was caught jaywalking and his skin happens to be brown and they'll be like well judger executioner. Or you're out about you're on the wrong county to be Jerry walking all get on the ground so that everybody's yelling at one point. I don't watch one of those videos. I watch a lot of those videos. Because they're interesting culturally interesting and then there was one video where a bunch of cops and then the lieutenant or whatever. The sergeant was like guys one voice. Y'All seriously everyone just fucking screaming and people coming out of their trailer homes and now you have a whole crossfire scene and the guy ended up getting shot anyway. Yeah there's one video that I like. It was a guy who I think he was drunk and Swat for some reason like came in and they made him crawl to him. Oh hotel like my pants are coming down. He tried to pose pants up and they shoot dislike that seriously lake. That is the worst bart four different things. There's drunk guy on his hands and knees like how did you think this was going to go? This is the only way that was worthy dude. So wanted to shoot him. He was he had such a hard on the shoot. This fucking kid. He was like a fucking high college kid. Who was the guy I'd faulk Wilt Chamberlain? It was wilt chamberlain like there's lake the like the six or seven black lives matter shootings that are all like the Halcion ones. Oh I don't remember the WanNa see savings campus Landreau. He was the one who was shot in his car by a campus cop. Yes when the COP starts like screening. Why did you reach? It's like all right. You know somebody needs come. Get him like he's still got his gun at. Somebody really wants a fucking leg one. Choose what does that sucking the SAP. We just hit them behind the head. Now he's a letter fucking go. Really bad cop should be maybe smarter than the average bear. Clearly emotionally emotionally intelligent. Like you think and then you think like when they go home they're probably not normal at all and this is a people who when. I do this because I like. I can see it from their perspective. If these guys every single time somebody talks to them on the radio get used to the idea like. I'm going to roll up to this fucking this seven eleven. Somebody's GonNa shoot me in the neck every time for years. That is how you wind up in a situation where you shoot somebody in a car for reaching for their. Id 'cause you're fucking torqued up beyond belief all the time. I don't know the due for these people I I have no answer. It's an man I mean my answer. The ones that people don't like to hear so Self police yourselves. You Know I. I don't know the situation where I would call the police and I would love to not ever find it but Here we are here and here. We are saw that we were. Don't even know what to think about Indiana. I'm a little. I'm not exhausted for the world. Don't get me wrong. I'm not exhaustive. I'm just like I just. I'm tired of hearing the same things all the time. Like worse than ever because we will have time now worse than ever to be like. This is why you're this is what you're doing wrong which I hate. This is what you're doing wrong and this is how to solve it and I'm using. It's just so easy right and complaining about Basil's on Facebook or what the fuck you doing like. I'M GONNA use a platform that's equally crazy. Somebody was in the band group texts today saying that somebody they used to play in band with hang on one second. I this was to out there i. It was the philander casteel from his old jam. Band guy played in a cover band in high school with Posted a video of him playing the national anthem on our healthcare workers and tagged it with the Pizza Gate logo murdered Pizza Gate Lake Hashtag and my actually my first thought upon reading that was. I thought immediately of your neighbor who's got like IRA things in their window. Yeah and it occurred to me that I think we're just beyond the average person does cognitive load here. Like you ever just run to many fucking things on an old computer and it just cannot hang too much the press turbo but yeah people. I. It's just. It's just far too many balls in the air for people to keep track of and so rather than like it takes a certain many humility to be like. Oh I can't follow this. I don't know this is too much. I'm sorry instead it's like well billionaires include Bryant Mares and people who you meet and I'm just GonNa stick to this and also I'm really tired and worried and whatever People don't really want to ever admit other scared the hell no method. It's somebody else's fault. Which is the worst the most functionally stupid person? I think I know when a big thing about mediators today and I don't like I just don't know what to do for this K. Then when you did it did it feel that. Then what happened did you that. That anybody the Did you know that the news come across your news APP on your phone after you woke up one day? And it's new to say and the meat is not happening anymore now. Just that's just the way it is. I think he'd be. I think we're GONNA be okay. I honestly I may fifteenth. This is the episode full of things of things. I say that make people mad at me. So we'll keep going twenty twenty fucking rules. It's really cool if you let it be cool as a grandfather died at corona virus but you know it's only just to be happy again roles it's fine. It's a little different. You find out you've been you find out a lot about people who you thought were okay even family member This is how or like. Oh my friend who? I've always admired that. She's a nurse is now suddenly has her PhD It was a doctor. And what's a ninety years of fucking medical school knows all about this and that is actually like a glorified administrative assistant and has all this knowledge on. Oh well the studies show and because I'm a nurse like Yo you have first responders syndrome like stop it stop. There's a thing when you work fucking files for the fucking hospitals. I know there's a handful of people who listen to this who've liked gone and like I have pushed a little radical. I know that we know we've got a few gun owners now. A few like whatever. Whatever work You know. Welcome but you'll find something when you do that like even not even GonNa Lube like if you have like a bug out bag you know if you're one of those people which is there's a decent amount of them now. Fear inevitably when this comes up in conversation with a normally talk to the norm. He Goes. I know where I'm going when things happen. Now you're not no you're fucking are you goddamn kidding me. I just watched you bug out for two weeks on facebook about sheet. You have no functional understanding of you. Come to my house all right. Are you for real? I dislike this has been one of the best. Here's ever just because the reminds me of like post nine eleven where people really know what the world was going then. People just save their wounds by buying stuff like that with a mask. It's like Oh and then we're going to war and there was that whole pocket from like. Oh Wanda oh five or people are like. I don't know what's happening. There's cranes aim but people still like just one about their day. A there's no shortage of cars in the fucking parking lots everybody's just sort of doing their own thing and buying stuff the way they always do target yesterday and people were like looking at pillows and funding look like plants and shit like that. We'll just keep going and doing what they WANNA do. And that's I think that's a good thing. Yeah it's totally able just need to do what they need to do. And you you stop feeling bad about everything like Oh. I went outside while I felt bad. I did manage to get some groceries. But it's just a really crazy time right now. And it's like you can go outside. And then in New York put New York enacted a A mask mandatory mask thing and everyone came out immediately and was like well. You'll get fined if you don't wear a mask and it's like no you won't you want me to not get for you. Want me to get fine. Not the same people who are amp -solutely loving this right so like there's A. We've talked about this before the indignity baked into waiting at a red light to am when there's clearly nobody coming down the street just because you're not allowed to drive through it. He's a fucking sickness and you're going to get fined if you like fine you know what I I got balls so I go out and I make money when I need it however have to and. That's fine so if they wanna find me that's great. Maybe they'll get their money. They'd probably won't. I don't know like it's fine. You should try it sometime. Really got to when I got my tooth problems a couple years ago and I went to the emergency room and then I went to the all night. Cvs and the suburb of Albany. And I know it's and But I I made a right on red and I got caught by a traffic camera and I was like. Do you have any idea how much pain I was in like? I drove very fast and I was just like I'm going to this fucking place getting painkillers and -biotics and I'm not stopping and do you think that any of those fucking red lights. I stopped trim stop signs and I stopped nonsense. No everything's situational. There was. There was a kid. I don't I can't imagine a situation where you would know who this kid is. He was like his scene. Your scene were very much on either side of my scene so you may be by site. You'd know him but he was very obnoxious actress. Yeah Yeah I. I won't like out on here but I remember going to. We went to the Thatcher Park overlook at like two in the morning. Two cars full of people. I don't know why because that's what you do. I remember driving there Albany at two in the morning and we pulled up to the red light on. What is it like chrome kill and new Scotland? Right where that fucking that gas station as we pull up to the red light and this kid pulls around us and trying to be funny and drives through the red light and we got to watch it real time he drives through and then off to the left lights in the fucking in the parking lot light up and they go and they get. It was driving past them. Was I'm surprised? We didn't moon the car. The cobbler rate so good as one of my fund is punk memory. This car wasn't with you know he was. That was the other kid that was he was trying to be cute and that he he got the wages of being cute. You were with a Jason where he was trying too hard to accept it. And that's that's out there. You go yeah. I wonder where these kids are. Now got a lot of actually. A lot of people have talked to in years and years. Getting at me on insuperable. Yeah everyone's in their house board people are like. I hope you're okay. I'm fine if I answer this in good. Everything's spectacular man. We'll get in their heads like. Oh God everyone's going to be everyone's die soon as I read I read like Nature's way dot org and they said that if you don't take if you don't megadose vitamin C. here in trouble out of the coil silver. Yes love drink entire bottle of COLLOIDAL. Silver don't waste your time and your energy on harmful hand sanitizer when you can use thieves. Oil sanitizer hands just as well and you won't have to support big Pharma Big Pharma. It'll just for big Pharma and give them money in exchange for hand sanitizer. Yeah sorry I got to put its unless you put the phone away from being like Pena all Social Butterfly Day off some good news. It's Nice we get some good news. Good news audience on my good news. Somebody else's good news is just saying okay. We're not you know good job. No good shove. So what else can we do here? I don't know. Yeah we're we're forty two minutes in with repair. Pretty good reminds me of the old school episode. I also don't feel any obligation. Go along on this. Because we are releasing two episodes at at at once which is something that not subtle. Instances seasoned podcasters do. That's true mayor. Season two are coming up Episode three hundred. We are better off. Friends postponed coming up when the nightmare. Corona lifts you want to start if we are not done with better off friends by up to ninety nine you WANNA start dot system dot one dot two version system. Please do that yeah. I don't know if we can. We try we can just go on to go into like I wanNA drive season two and then all just start like a new season. We'll be like oh coming on season. Three better off ran. That would be really fun to ninety nine coming on season two year until it comes back out. It'd be perfect. We'll figure it out. There's a lot of logistical things. Starting WITH SEAN. Duty growing some hair on his fucking balls and how long until we get him out. Do you think like it's going to be. We've got really condition here dies and we're gonNA bring you all end because we love you Our friend Sean. Patrick duty who we love and adore is will not leave out. So he's like he is where I was in late January like in late January. I was like when this is no fucking joke. This is going to be like get ready. Get Your Shit together and I was like. Yeah that that was. That was people posting racist. Maingate where I was like individually getting people being like this is wrong. And you're gonNA fucking hurt people. You should take a dental. Had you listened to me early January? You wouldn't have run out of cornflakes in March by the way and now if you were to listen to me now you can get a jump on being a pirate when everyone else figures out that this shit is fucking cashed lost buckler. Yeah but SEAN. Duty is like minor league or in late. January right now. This like he's why don't you call that when you not just weightlifting but like it happens a weightlifters when you have a muscle that no longer remembers how to relax exits. That's not the hips chuck. Knoblauch lock wasn't able to throw a second anymore. Not exactly the same thing. It's IT'S A. It's when you stress a muscle so much that it just remains contracted and you have to basically massage or like teach it to happen so really the NFL. Cornerback all the time. It happened to primetime. Had ended ended his career on the right when the Ravens. Because is Hamstrings wouldn't that happens to me sometimes. It's really shitty a terrible feeling. That is where he's at right now. He is the muscle that will not relax and we need to. I don't know what you do for the base we. We gotta get Chandi massage Thai massage. Yeah 'cause you know what you do with a like a certain level. It doesn't relax you. How funny would it be? If we went to shoney's house got him a home nine. Am wanted to nine PM on a Tuesday. And we're like yeah. We're we're going out. Come on we convince them. Come on and we just drive him to a time assange spot no fucking way. Hello just is. This is just overnight. Pell here is is this Ryan. Yes Ryan what's up what's up? They'll do right numbers. I WANNA make sure you're good. You're good no problem buddy. We're happy to have you on the program returned about check here you guys. I don't set. That sounds great. We're good yeah we're actually. We're rolling right now. We're just like we were just sitting around bullshitting so can you hear us? Okay Trishaw her a little bit shameful great all right. So what's up man? We but you're wondering why we contacted you. Your life should look for me like you. WanNa ask me questions. I'm open sure. Now we definitely do and we have been fans of yours for a little while now and we actually. That's a good thing. Yeah definitely You you're actually. We found you because you put a rest in peace Chester Bennington video actually Shannon my his death and we thought that it was like it was a great video And we just wanted to kind of like we love we. There's a thing I'm just going to say. We really like how you like. What you cover and we love how you Like do your show and I do video. So Yeah Yeah we fucking love that. You can swear as much as you want here. We're not a Christian podcasts. At all we can say whatever you want you can get dirty as you wanna be till I am because we remember that one time where you said you fucking love porn when the people and it's not uncommon. Somebody was able to my own but my actually my ex children with almost porn on her phone. You A man. I know a great man once told me that every man has his porn yet. I gotTa Cornstarch on my all was at a I pick random videos at elect twice and I will watch them over and over again. Okay so let's get into it. Then what is your porn search? Like what kind of videos you like. I go to Like I like girl on girl action I also like they have like three ways and all that stuff. Thank you look at Porn Guy. Yup I got point hub on my phone. I also Gabom ex. It's another kid that I frequently uses. Call xxx okay. That's like a little a little less per less less pro than uh porno but it gets the job done it all right cool and what kind of what kind of girl what what kind of lead you into into like a real skinny girl. You like the big girls. You know it's another thing. We saw one of your latest videos that you uh this girl you were going to go to a graveyard of this girl. And that didn't work out what happened. She ended up moving. Jesus managing sheep. We hung up babies two times and then at the last minute. She decided she's going to be without telling me or she's somewhere she somewhere in Illinois. Is that where you are you in the channel okay? Is that where you grew up in? The Anna Moved Indiana about eleven years ago after getting out of prison man all right so that I guess that begs the question if you want to get into begs the question. Why were you in prison? I was arrested with a friend of mine. And he pulled all the crime and me as an accomplice and so he. He went in to a store and he rubbed it at gunpoint. Holy Shit car outside waiting for him yet and then I didn't know what was going. I didn't know what was going down. He walked into the store rubs it and then he comes back with a welcome astray saying. Let's go let's go without call me was he did. And then we get back to my house no day or two later the cop show of the House and they're looking for in him. I'm Mike and I looked at my like what the Hell did you just do? He says oh I rubbed distort gunpoint. Jesus you fucking idiot thinking you guys probably on friends now right Yep I still know so. Come on facebook but we don't have the same. French of as to how long we in three years. Holy fucking hells all right. So you're in there for three years like you came out. Pretty well adjusted. You're not like You know you're not like a psychopath or anything. So having what would you like when you were in of? The people are constructing crazy. And of course I was sent to the worst prison that you can imagine. I was in county. Okay that's Cook County Chicago right away so this is a long time. This is like when you were a teenager. Then our sixteen maintained shit and they sent you the join me or sixteen. Wow all right so. You had a very strong stern introduction to adult life right away. Arab got out. You find a job right away like what did you do 'cause What how old are you? Now I'm going to be thirty. Two on Jalen okay. So you've we've got we're looking at like twelve years since you're in jail. What how how was the how of of those years been since they've been cut off and on like I've experimented with a with a few different things. Some of them that so good some good like a took me twelve years to get my Parma driven. So that's kind of a kind of I'm so I'm learning how to drive. Even oh one thirty two and kind of lead them that points twenty-seven no problem and then the most recent thing I did and I don't want and I don't want my other job about it because we'll come back to me was experimented with marijuana spare minted with like you just started buying it. You started smoking in or what smoking okay. You got pretty deep in the weeds her. Did you go now? The judge three times and I don't want my job to know about it because then it comes back. I mean they're gonNA drug test me and all that smoking you work at a grocery store now. Right Meyer Meyer. Yeah I've been. We've been the Meyer before and we know it's kind of like A. It's kind of like a K. Mart or Walmart right yes. It should lead to Walmart. They've got groceries that you could buy also got like a clothing. Section latronic section similar to palm. What target and Walmart. But it's a little bit better right. Yeah I heard that you call somebody an asshole the other day because Carts Oh yes. I do cards but I did. Put a transfer order ends. I'M NOT GONNA be on Karch much longer. And they asked. I'm still going to get to say Meyer but I requested to be a dog reader because they get the hours nice. That's a much better job for you. Mac you're very Very like magnetic personality. I think my personality you want to get to know me. She held dirty. I am dirty war all right well. That's fine I mean we're dirty guys to we. Can I mean look at your phone and see all the porn hub stuff in that right? I I told a joke to a friend of mine over at mire and he got a kick out the joke. Okay there is a joke and especially man can. My Grandmother was one that told me so good and the joke is about. You ever heard the joke about the guy one attachable Diego must have missed that one. Let's hear it okay. Well this is my grandmother. So I'm not sure how she ever got A. But the joke was a guy walks into a tattoo parlor. And he has detaching guy he's like I want to catch you of adult Dole. My Dick the guy says we'll give me one good reason why I should put a tattoo there of an eligible Andrew. Dick the three good reasons he says one elect money back for one. I went to play with money. Uses to grow and he's just three and W buckner ladies. It's actually a great joke. Oh my God so I guess we're we're talking about money and women What's the women's also woman situation right now Ryan because you say somebody is? You had some women in the past. Though I've had a few dating somebody held the first goal went ahead was when I was really the drive by the euro adult shit like out of the way real early trouble. Start Getting laid eleven. Well close okay but the wow man that's how you play in Chicago. I guess so. I guess you're a big bulls fan Yes I'm a bulls fan for basketball. Number Cups ran for National Wrigley Field Semi to take my two teams on a comfortable as mccombs ran on a Yankees Fan. Also Oh yeah Oh. Yeah we're we're we're we're in. We're about an hour and a half north of New York City. We're in a place called Albany New York. Have you ever heard of that lovable? They've another abandon your clinical. It's always been my dream to go because there's a few places of your kid. I do WANNA see. Well I mean you know wants to solve is bullshit blows over. I'll maybe come visit if things go. Cool movables are you Are you okay with US contacting you for the show like after this because we'd like to what we do? Is we like your political videos a lot and I. I talked a lot about about trump because I'm addicted. What they call anti trump. I can tell you eight forty five. Big Time doesn't But what we want to do is we. We had an idea to have. You are election correspondent when the election gets a little bit closer. Would you like to do that awesome? Thank you sir. Appreciate all right now. I can tell you one thing. They'll before before we get off topic or something like that but I have a few family that are like on like what they call the they they loved like trump and everything then. I got a job with them. Poison them all the time. You're in your country there you know. There's no way around it. Indiana diehard trump. They support him. Yeah the trump's telling everybody go outside. How do you feel about that because we're talking about we're talking about corona right now and we're How do you feel about trump telling everyone to go outside? I have to deal with a lot of people. Talk about trump and how they agree with about how some people agree with him saying that some people don't I'm one of the people that doesn't agree with what side and the reason for that is because I think about my health and my mother's it's true you're kind of in the front lines because you're working at a grocery store and people are probably going in and out all day. They are a Meyer. Meyer used to be a twenty four hour store shelves this Kobe nineteen starving. They cut back on the hours so she'll though so instead of being open twenty four hours as they used to their opening eight in the morning close in ten at night. Do they opened early for the old people show up Tuesdays Thursdays? At seven for the old people do their shopping. A little fucked up. Because I know if I was like that I've is really old. I'd WANNA wake. I WanNa Wake my dad's like seventy six. And he likes his. He'll sleep till noon. He's very old and tired so I don't know why they have so early for Old People. Shouldn't they have like a time where people can't go in like noon they don't have But they don't people come in early because they because you know. How long did you shopping? You have such a gift for a turn of phrase and we really really love that. I just want to say that. Oh I could tell you like like my my mom's like that too and I get our Catholic News and dirty jokes Bumpkin. My Mom's like that and I even tell you how my mom is when it comes to her. Talking dirty other sometimes will be in the car because like for me. I don't have a license. So she's got to drive me to and from work and live with her because she's got hold issues and I got hold as you're so basically we can't afford to basically live on her own right now. I saw that you had to get some teeth taken out not too long ago. I got an objection to my teeth so I had to hold. I had a I had. I had one tooth pulled not about a year ago and that was like the worst experience ever. I cannot imagine every twenty teeth taken out and then I had my whole top tip shaken out and I had like maybe six on the bottom taken out. So altogether shelly was to look at my moldy would only seven or eight teeth dentist and I have played them supposed to use. But it's so uncomfortable. I don't like using it. You gotta put glue on it to keep it in and I don't like and I don't like the glue that they you know that's that's brutal man Uncomfortable I heard that I read. I saw your video today. Hurt yourself at work. Last night I was I was on a I started getting chest. Pain and leg pain probably about five hours into my ship and and it was ongoing for about a week and I say no because I didn't want to lose out on any money that is making so I so I so for a week I put up with the pain and virtually Scott so painful yesterday. I'm like well. I'm going to have to get this truck dealers. I can't go on any longer so I went to go so I went to emergency room yesterday. And they basically took him act like an x ray of my chest and my wake and they said you pulled a muscle and so I'm like WHOA and Saddam out of doctor. I can't tell you all the terms that they use and there's a medical trump's I don't understand and they said so. They said they said you put most of wonder chest and they said you put on your leg and then they said what they told us and they told me an only told me. Yesterday was the take easy gave some medicine to you and I was killers right body. Are you on painkillers right now? Yes that's why you're talking all the dirty ship could be I. I mean that's good looking. Yes okay we. We've had some wine You know it's not quite painkillers. You know so Ryan you've got back to your okay so we go back to Chicago. Real quick you grew up listening to Harry Carey right listen to Harry Carey and And the other guy that jumps that was there before Ron santona watching. Wgn Want Wgn. Trouble they're not on anymore W. tickets. Wto Superstation wgn showing all the games they used to show those games this show because it was a superstation they used to show cubs games in New York state. I remember that yeah. Yeah and he said the Bozo the clown show to head. Who Do you consider okay? So you don't drive right. You haven't driven a car ever get on my permit four times. So what's the fastest? You ever got a car up to forty five th really. That's it. I thought I would have thought the guy like you. Maybe like one hundred and fifty miles. Now I don't have a car that goes up ask you do you ever. Do you have a car though? Well we won't my mom. My mom she drives to and from work. She does me from where we have. We have a much awesome. Four Pontiac Grand Prix. It could go up to one hundred and twenty miles an hour. But I've never driven that particular Korea Mama stand on it. Maybe get going up two hundred twenty now. She's the She's pushed up to about sixty or seventy miles an hour. That car does have some power when you take off the ticket. Sports Car Pontiac. We build excitement down than forever. We build excitement. Yeah and my and my and my sports cars when I come to like sports car look at any type of Karma for moved. My favorite movie series learn election from my God. That's amazing so okay. So building on favorite movies. But who are some of your because obviously you videos every day and you are correspondent of sorts. Who are some of your? Inspirations like entertainment wise or news wise do you have any Who Your Inspirations? Well FOR MOVIES. My favorite actors as was called Walker. And he's still kind of is even though he's dead but I'm but I'm also a big fan of Of Adam Sandler did you see gems. What did you see uncut gems not yet? I haven't great movie man you love. And I'm also a big fan of also a big fan of like the action. Stars like Bruce Willis Schwarzenegger. Yeah Oh yeah like commando Yep. We're a Rambo. First Blood Stand podcast absolutely Rambo for I love rocky series to Brian. Dennehy died and I didn't see that you put out a writ for them or not. Because I was so busy working and I've been in the painkillers chicken. I haven't really had a chance to put up a video on suits. You should put out a video while your painkillers. How excited I can make you like psychedelics. Talking about like girls and Shit. Oh yeah that'd be good. So what do you like what are you? What are you? GonNa do with your channel while you're going to grow it you're GONNA do. Luckily like we liked that you did an rip from our colleagues from Talk Talk. We appreciate that very much we Do some more like rip videos in the future Do you think that The political stuff maybe is like in your like screaming into an echo chamber. Maybe it was like white noise. Haven't really figured all that stuff out yet because like for me. I don't know much over laconic stuff yet and I'm still learning but an and I haven't figured it out yet but I'm pretty sure that you guys can be experts on. This was telling me solely with Mike My Sister. Talking to medial then. She washed my videos and she says you should add videos. I said I haven't heard about how to do that yet. She says she's has talked to some issues. I should probably tell you how etiquette radio's Arnav videos new editing. One of my things I love about it is it's like it just seems like. I'm just suddenly in your life for like two minutes and then I'm out consider. It's a really cool way to do it. Yeah it is I said because Amb and even my girlfriend or ex action what she is. She's not like we're not dating but she's like Bush years the girl but a friend and Jason. She's watched videos too and she says well. I think she's really good. She's got to put more energy into what I put all the energy I handed what these haters haters haters in the street. Why what? What's the most recent girl who shined? Who moved away quote unquote her. Name's holly good name. And she just have a facebook page and saw the white and she's of your very beautiful girl. I think the only I think the only reason why should with me because I have a tender age difference Laura which means I'm ten years older. She's twelve I'm I'm I'm going to be dirty two hundred twenty two nothing wrong with that. Y Girl Right now. We have a twenty year age difference. Then you go get it exactly young stuff man and somebody asked me like how can cost her. I said well her mother. You should date Michael. Jim Wow okay. So that's cool. I mean everybody's You Got Yours you still. I mean we still talk but a just that I just wish he would have gave them a warning before she moved. This guy's GonNa. She moved to Chicago last week. And I just found out yesterday talking to guys date for. We weren't really dating but we hung out but I've known her central ship team guys like now not stop me if I'm going to personal here but you guys mess around you know. She's she got a cool like that. I mean we. We called them kissed a couple of times but nothing sexual came out of it Well she's she's She's she's comes from a long line of what they call. Catholic people so she plays her again. I don't like that man hard to get I mean. That's that's they're playing hard to get their hard to get. That's no good point. There's no fresh. She's nice and I would think that she plays her to get well hard. Meaning hard workers are rewarded with more hard work. Never forget that so you wanted to find somebody. Who's easy? Peasy he wants he wants to jump your bones first date. I asked her when I when we hung out the other day. And I'm and this was before she had moved and we went to we had went to my store. Meyer and we walked around one of US had money to buy anything and so after we walked around the store and got back to the car. I did after a few personal questions as she kinda pushed off. And I said I'm I I said on and began immediate on the conversation about sex instead of. How long would you wait? We I said I know some people will just go into sex rate right after the first eight and I know people like that. I'm not people like that. I'm like my mom was like this. She she took like on the second date and my an an I remember my am I am. My aunt. Basically had met this guy and she fought them after election beating them. Good for them crazy. Indiana crazy like out here we call that fast ass fast. Fuck some I six minutes of meeting. That's like of course my animals a horse. You fucked away to the phone book like fucking gas. She just went around looking for random guys disturbed through on them. So I mean that's something to be said for free love but at the same time and Entries digital settled down and got married and then her husband died ca seven years ago but that but her husband was twenty nine years older than her. God probably tells me he had a little cash. Yeah Yep of course your husband was successful Nassar. Nobody good for business. Because he was a salesman for cars pontiacs later sold out of a car. Although Kerr place was asked I'm not sure what what place you would net. But he was but he He sold cars rolling and then he also Was pilot correct like an actual like where you flew planes still and I got on the plane but I'm scared to be one really My friend for it He made for his birthday. We went to go see Final destination and so. Of course I am of they get to the plane. They get to the scene when the guys in the pioneers had vision plan bowls out and so eventually he starts it will even though she fell asleep on the plane before it took off and he had the vision of the PLO of and then he starts screaming about. The plan was going to go on them. And then after the plane bowls on my oh fuck man. I'm not getting on the plane. Probably a good call drink I'll so you would So if you were to travel somewhere you'd probably drive How someone drought? I would check to take a car to get to someplace but then when it comes to when it comes to me wanting to go overseas I would have to take like a boat lie. God like you would They know they have a program where you can work on a container ship and work your way across the Atlantic. But you'd have to work on the ship but yeah I think that'd be pretty cool for it. I mean most people take a plane but I'm actually related to a couple of people that actually created the idea from flames related to Wilbur and Orville Wright. Yep they're my great uncles. Are you kidding? Wow you think today leave you any money. No actually my aunt. My uncle Jimmy got all Baloney because I actually. I was looking ahead to call my hand because she knew better than I did. Who else related join wasn't Ryan before we get to far you're related to the Wright brothers. Yes I am now. That is huge. That is huge surprise. You never said that videos. Actually I did. A lot of them was one of the first videos posted. That was pre US finding you. We understand interferometry bomb related to. I'm and the my bullets are one of them. Who who else The guy the guy that shot James Carville the President Beckham eighteen hundreds his name his name. Trojan talk near you guys who all else. I'm also related to This guy but even though he he's never really been an and anything else the I'm trying I'm trying to from was named Ray because it looks like sma it's not Smith. ECZEMA SMOLTZ S. M. Y. T. H. Look like Switzerland. It's not well. He's one of my uncles and he made money off of doing commercials. Okay another fan another famous person. Yep but his name is Jimmy Jimmy Smith. I think it's how you say it was expensive. Smith S. M. Y. T. H. Are you sure it's not the actor from La Law? Jimmy Smits no okay. Making sure I'm waking. He looked Hispanic true you know. Wow we are no idea. We're learning some awesome. Have you ever been to a bill? Bulls Game Yes paulie one was that in the the really crappy. Early two thousands bowls. Yes it was it was it was. It was one of Scottie Pippen Slash Games. Before he retired he gets the implant. So you saw the Tony Coach. Bill Wennington yes bowls. Yeah that's awful post Phil Jackson and I'm heartbroken about. Even though I wasn't a Lakers fan I was actually heartbroken by Kobe's death right and you did and you did a video about his death as well. Yeah and that's so that that reinforced Kobe. Kobe death reinforce your fear of flying yes that he was from that that he was in the kind of bent. I felt kind of bad for him because he had a daughter with him. And I feel bad for the daughter the daughter show much to look forward and now she's not GonNa love it. Won't I mean she couldn't even do believe in heaven and Hell Religious Guy on nominee? Okay so once you're dead you're dead so you want to be cremated yes cool and where. Do you want your ashes spread. That's a good question because I grew up in Chicago. And then you had lake Michigan so lower wacker drive. Yes no no I just the only thing I really know about Chicago's from the blues brothers and from the balls Would you like to? Where would you know? Honestly where would you like to have your ashes? Spread like Michigan Michigan. Right up on. I've always had a fascination with the sea people know I'd been like I've been swimming. Like Bentley. Shane. I've been on a boat. That was a that was on Lake Michigan will they do the tours and everything so yeah I've always had a fascination with the with the water and I'm also had a fascination with The Marine life that an animal lover. Yes dogs do you have any pets right now? Because my apartment doesn't apartment element doesn't assholes yet but at some point you will have a cat or dog dog guy or CACA amador guy and the girl that I was trying to date. She's a cat lover. She knows bug lower but you would rather have a cattle dog holly as polly yes. She's she's got. She's got a Catholic. She's got like a just a regular tabby cat that she has and I told an I used to I had one before and he died about secures ago when I had a dachshund like the little wiener dog. It's a bunch of. He just got old and died. But I told my mom I said if I was ever going to get another dog. I have three choices and the biggest dog you can have and I told my mom I said I want my cemetery. Choice will be the hockey the the Kito which big fluffy dogs that come from Alaska and then on the one was rottweiler. Dog White Miller the the one the one they do miss a head up when I was a kid and then a hope. A housecall player basically trapped inside so we couldn't get one. Yeah my mom. My Mom pissed off gang maker because he was attacking her dog along. An and some self letitia can get personal. Where'd you can say? Whatever like there's legitimately nothing will will won't won't put in. That's fine because I come from a cult icon Bumba trouble backgrounds belch around. She did so like for twelve years with my mom. All and but there's a reasoning for that part of it was jail and then there's other parts of happened that kind of become like what they call to grab it for Family Wise Okay Fair enough. That isn't wildly gang banger. Burns your house down my mom. My mom got my mom. Got His him because he was a champion our dog as he had in the and we and be grown Chicago. So this is where we're at. This will happen this this gang memorable shrift teen and he was a father of two religious team so he had to and and he and he and the guy had serious issues and he had his but somehow has one year old son had climbed up the stairs to go. See your dog and we had a husky. At the time but he he wasn't purebred. Husky was he was. He was a mixture of Husky German shepherd at shall we had him on the back porch because the apartment complex lived in in the low dogs to be on the inside so we haven't chained up on the back room on the back porch so So we had an altar and the kid climbed up one dog and then all of a sudden we heard our dog yelp the guy. The Gang Banger had kicked in the fence from the dog. Didn't know them and he and he growled them and the guy kicked it in and that's set our dog off. My mom basically had told him. What are you doing appeared with with your with your kid and the and the place was the back stairs with a safety hazard that were caving in of it should have been safer a one year old to become an anyway sure and so. I'm I'm told him get off. Get off her torch and she doesn't go back down and take care of your bitch and it set them off and so and he he he He basically says I'M GONNA I'm GONNA kill you. And so so he's he's going on to. I'M GONNA kill you. And the my mom chased down three flights of stairs and my mom and my mom through like a frigging soda can and him or something like that. And it pissed him off and he says and I'm GonNA show you bitch and my mom is one of those people that get permissions and the next day. She says she told my father long. Took the kids over to your to your mother's house and she lives and we're going to be there for the Hover Win. You're always we're going to be there for them and then And then the almost on a call shame that the house was on fire and of course the good thing that my mom off because if people died and I'm going to talk about it in God that's awful and then my father was in the actual health and they should have got us. A house. Looks Never surprised on my father survived. They said there was no oxygen when they got him at come of expropriating. What happened in Gang Banger? After that we moved out there wise choice. I guess people trying to bring Jesus. How old were you in? This happened to Jesus Christ all right so things are better now. Yeah you're working. You're single you're on the prowl. My woman online world. Where do you meet them online? Dare you on Tinder. Are you on facebook? Instagram or twitter. Okay thank you so you slide into some deanza. What's your what's your opening line man. If I was a woman how how do you try to me? Because I really don't have an open line. I is Eugene. Take him on a date. I and then we get to hit it off. And then if we hit often Michigan over them to say yes to the I usually ask around I should Michel after the shingle again. They said yesterday we'll go further angelique answering questions about each other. I'll ask like okay. Where are you trauma? What what Louis went you? Do you like to read something like that? I'm a big fan of reading to read right on. That's cool so it's pretty It's pretty traditional yet and People but you know what I would imagine that actually works because men right now are Slovenly. And they will just. They're opening line. We'll just be like a picture. You know what I mean like what might microcosmic recalled for when it comes to men from the TV show Hampshire wishing hellish victory. Both have asked we have. There's one other show that they didn't house were over here. Laurie was talking. He was talking about the men and how they thought his shows pitches matter pigs. Just don't screw anything that's true we're only flesh and blood after all. Is that true for you? You screw just anything I scare. Whatever COMES ALONG SEAN? Shoulder lovers entree eighteen and older than wrong. It's great okay. Yeah I mean like anybody else. People's you're not picky though. No no that's cool. Have you met anybody like since Holly Couple of girls in the work but I think that number two girls you work with you can get a little sticky little messy with You know dating girls you work with according to buyer they don't care. I mean you're Dave Digits wanted to keep it on all to check into that. And that's good Ryan Van Wick here. You are so excited. We love your videos man. That's always good because I've always Columbia it when I started. I started my Youtube Channel. Two years ago when people ask me. Why did you start a Youtube Channel? I said I like I like interacting with people also. I've always been the social type person. You are social type person yet. Up like sunk. Some people were afraid to talk to. People are not actually go up and naturally make a lot of my friendships. I go I just go out and just talk to random people. It's awesome and that's what will make. Perfect correspondent elect firstly election correspondent. Because you are. Are you going to vote? Your Vote Democrat. Are you sad Bernie? Sanders has left the race. I actually I actually did. Like Bernie in the region like verniers because he fought for the working class on the trump doesn't do and I and I was actually surprised at Bernie hit announced. He was dropping out. And I don't know what it is but I like Miley. Trump will Bernie was his age because of hold is getting next command professor yet. But he's like he's like seventy eight seventy nine years old. So that was. My only concern was able to be able to become president. I said but he did fight for the working class. He fought for a living wage. And she's still Kinda does fight for that and I said in my opinion the minimum wage should be at least fifteen dollars or not Fifteen dollars higher and I'll put the only problem with that. But that minimum wage is that if you want to get something higher than fifteen you gotta work still mole or go to make a phone in yard work proposal. Joel officials. I have like at London trying to get. I did. Try to get into a steel mill. That's close to where get on. The problem is near certain of Caucasians you had and I didn't have those qualifications or qualifications that you need. You need to know how the world was. I didn't happen which I don't have any insurance or welding You also had to have experience in math looking at an had no really basic math which I've stuck in math like when I when I got placed in one of my first home like I said I I'm GonNa get kind of personal here because I bounced around from for twelve years and so I was removed from among criminals. Nine because if something happened in the household and then Belgium from buster home to foster home group home the group home and then ended up in jail and one of the foster homes. They put me in class and one of the schoolings and they put me in Algebra ill. At the time I'd had no Didn't know what the fuck was looking at and I'm looking up like all these number things under saying. Oh timeshare summer by this letter like fuck off about. Didn't then she before Mike. I'm asking cheaters. Won't nutrition. I've never done this before. And the teacher was such an asshole and they end. The teacher told me while she and the teacher looked at me and says well this and she. I don't see what how you don't know that and I didn't tell the teacher that I kept them in on that. They never told me. Your House down for the fuck. I hate that teachers are insult your ownership to worry about except instead of Goddamn numbers and I got I got. I got numbers that are famous for not in a good way Ryan a lot. It's a lot she liked for me. I should have finally wants to read a book that could write one. No this is this is. I've never feeling this is just the tip of the iceberg. Oh yeah there's a lot of shit more could explain some of the really bad tandy. Good tell us a good thing? Because we're we're going along so just tells one good thing and leave us on a high note. Heino is at basically a one of the puzzle. Things did you. WanNa do when I get money saved trouble the world? That's awesome regal. I what are you going? I Ireland because I'm part Irish. Nice cool my my family. My family immigrated from Ireland Romania. They immigrated from England to come over here like I got. I wish I got dortch. Angelescu got remaining ancestry British ancestry. I also am Turkey Indian so of course I love stuff like bill came out here. So you're like a melting pot. Yup Sean Sean. Like a I'm I'm like what they call them. Lunch like. A mixture of races understood understood. I think we all are in this Ryan. We WanNa thank you really on a very serious. WanNa thank you very much coming on the show and we really enjoyed your videos and I. I hope you continue For a very long time and we'd like to talk to talk to you again. Is it okay if we call you again sometime now that we have your number of course got your guys number shake? So yeah okay. Yeah we'll give you a heads up before we do this. I'm not going to cold call. You will I get my number. If you guys ever want to call Indiana line number okay. Should I give it online or no? No no no no. We'll we'll deal with it later. We'll double back and accept an umbrella that all people like we have A. We have a lot of people. Listening in a lot of people will contact you for sure now. We just want to say that we think that you are the undisputed King of you to their. It isn't even close. Romanucci radio keeping entertainment. I'm not working at my other job. Perfect Ryan thank you again and We hope you have a great nights. And I'm honored to be and I'm honored to be a part of the show. You are a big part of the show when we can't thank you enough. Thank you sir. Good might be good. And that was Episode two seventy nine seventy nine. No sponsors no Scott this is. Let's just have a cigarette and really be good y'all.
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And then i tried to boot up the old laptop and took a half hour even just to get to the screen where put in the Passcode to unlock it. And i type it in and it went back to the home screen and then two minutes would pass it and go back to password. Screen so Yeah ipad it there. You go for those who missed it in our last. Show your your normal laptop that you broadcast from was absconded and has gone it is it is it is it is In ether out there right now. Well north carolina. Anyway your your girl took it and here are so. That's an ireland right. And i i cast from a castle. That's right that's right so well. I want to say a quick. Hello to all of you for joining us. Live out there on youtube. Or maybe on periscope twitter. Maybe the peter cast dot live. Maybe on facebook. Or maybe you're one of the many thousands that will listen to this later on the podcast. Feed hello to all of you and welcome to what i think is going to be a very special show here in the history of the peter casteran We've we've kind of been touting it a little bit this week. We've got a big announcement to make and tonight we're gonna be talking about the future of the -puter cast yes and what's happening and ren you know we've done buck in the news for quite a while you know how i really liked to bury the lead. It's one of your best trait. Yeah so tonight. I'm not going to do that. We're going to rip the band aid off and then just talk about it. Here's the deal. At the end of the season i will be leaving the -puter cast and that's happened. Well we'll tell you. We'll take collective collective cy. I told rin about this. I dunno run was about two three weeks ago. I guess now. Yeah yeah and cata sorta said like i like we'll just instantly my ahead of was reached the pudi right. Yeah and then And then yeah and then all like later. I guess sunday night or monday. Yeah he said he message. You're like yeah until everybody. Wednesday thought about it a lot and i was like okay. Yeah i thought about a lot. And and i i have a number of reasons why i wanted to actually go ahead and get it out there and not not save it and push it out but let's go over one by one one by one of what why. I'm leaving or why why i wanted to do it now. Why are you want to do it. Now let's start there. Because i wanted to take the next five six seven eight weeks however long. It's going to be until the putin's by the way the end of our season will mark the pudi. So i will. I will still be here in my normal roll. Man omar spot right up until we get to the future cast award show and that will mark my final episode here at the future cast At least as a host who knows. I may come back because i don't know because frankly i don't know what runs got planned. He's going to go with this. And i don't know ren may make it to the important note that the peter cash isn't going anywhere the name that is true that is true the pure cast will live on and we'll go forward under ran in his direction. And really buddy wherever you want to take it. I'm going to ruin your creation. Ed i was been one hundred percent scared of that. But if that's what happens and that's what happened. Soviet and i'll watch go down and eternal flame of glory to be go. Yeah will be on. Your soda is kicking back screwing me. I kept trying to tell everybody it was me. I was the talent talent. No one believe me. I you know there are other reasons why you wanted to. I mean i'm sure he wanted a victory lap right it was. It was some of that some of that. Some of it was also like it's not real until you say it until you put it out there and like at anytime you could just sort of take it back like if you don't say like you can always just go in and i'm just not going to do it right. It's gonna stay So there there's a piece of honestly for my own sanity. I'm just saying no it's out there. I don't like keeping long-term secrets with with stuff like this unnecessarily. So i'm no stranger to keeping secrets but you know i it. I'm happy for these last next several weeks however long we have left kind of sound like i'm dying our long. We have left like like. I want them. I just cards out on the table with where things are in You know if certain pieces of conversation happened to come surrounding that. that's fine. I went to allow that to happen. But if anybody wants to send me sweet accolades or call into the peter cast live show this week over the next three weeks and just tell me how awesome i've been for the last five years. You know that that'll be a great show i'll be. I'll be perfectly happy with that. Please don't do that guys out. don't do that. it's all about the game So that's that's i think why. At the end of the day. I'd talked it over with a few people and you know yeah. Ultimately it was that. I needed to say it. I needed to get it out there so that it could be real. You know what i mean. Yeah definitely mean yeah for sure. Yeah so why. Don't you tell all the disappointed people why you're banning them. Yeah well it's it's because Renting a big blowout. By an and me me i i. I've had this conversation. But i'll tell you again no actually before before i do that. Let me dispel something that people out there may be thinking. This is not happening. Because you and i have had some big fight without that. I don't know but it could happen. There's people rumors start for for things that are out there and that that's that's not it. Actually i mean i think brennan. I've been working better together. You know then yeah then. We haven't longtime and you know the show is is is is on really good feet The i mean the shows that it's heights right now. You know like this is the best show ever really done. The numbers are amazing. The the youtube thing has been rocking this year. we've got more people tuning into the podcast live than ever before. We're finally making a little bit of a residual income which is nice and it's time to walk away from me ultimately. Here's the reason why bigger than all the other reasons. Five years ago. When i started the cast i had a three year old and i had a zero year old five years later. She's just been no. She had just been born she was. She was a newborn five years later at now. Eight and five years old. The demands on me as a father are way higher than i ever thought they would be the demands on my time the demands on my schedule that you know and not just the demands i mean frankly the places i want to be as a father like i want to be with my kids. I want to be at their games. I want to be reading them. Stories bed at night. And i don't want to be doing is crap because i i can't read you this. This has happened to many times. This year specifically is one of my kids. Look and say. Hey dad can you read me the story tonight. I say buddy. I can't because i got to go to a podcast and we have can't because you're going to be getting a job next year and it's time to put away childish things. You're too old for stories. That's not have no because because here's the thing whether it's next year or in two years it's not that much longer that he's actually gonna want me to read him a story at night and and it's fair for him. He's actually reading like full on books now like these. Aren't kid books anymore you know. He's really into him and it's something that he and i get to do together. But what here read Right now he's reading. Something called the green amber series. We spent most of the summer through the fall. Reading the harry potter. Actually i guess it was last fall through the summer. We read the harry potter series for the first time. But now we've been reading the green number series. Which isn't fantasy. Oh yeah absolutely. It's it's more fantasy than than harry potter. Ever was its little rabbits running around and not but it's like think like lord of the rings only with rabbits it's kind of what it is secretive sh- yeah that's kind of in that vein. It's really good series. It's we've we've really really enjoyed it. So but but i mean there. There's that i mean like even tonight like i was going to in bed. You gotta get in bed. Because he's got to go and we're not starting until ten. We're starting to ten run like this is not early thirty eight. Yeah yeah and and and and in the back of my head. So there's my kids but then the other side of that wren. Was you like like winston going. Hey brent said nine o'clock and now it's nine fifteen. And i'm dealing with a child and sorry that child's exactly and actually we just need to let no and and you know i have. I have been on this path towards what the exit has been probably pretty serious since last year. Truth be told. I wanted to quit at the end of last year and my wife wouldn't let me. She said no. You're not quitting. No you're not doing it. You gotta give it another year. You wanna make sure it's not just because the team's losing you know Winstons fault well. We got tom now. And i'm still gone and his team to the playoffs for the first time. Ever in the history of this podcast and took your spark though no i would say the spark is still there like i said i mean when when derek rowe has little sorta goodbye letter over. What the buck derek. And and. i don't know what you read when you saw that. But what i saw was a father who was in the same spot as i was only. His kids are a little bit older than mine basically. He's like look. I've got demands on my life and demands on my time as a father. And that's gotta take priority. When chris fisher left bucks per podcasts. That was his exact same reason was it had to do with his family in where they were. So you know there. There's an. I have bumped up against that and i've i've come up against that in in all of my creative pursuits. When i decided to have children. I made her the promised that i wouldn't be one of these absentee fathers that that my kids wouldn't grow up thinking. Wow da da was always gone. You know Or i wouldn't wind up as one of these. You know not that. Not that i was going to be famous. If somebody make a movie out of my life but know on these bio-pics were like the the the guy comes from nothing. And he makes it big and he has everything and then he loses everything and he has to put it back together towards the end of his life. Like family hates him Yeah like that's that's not going to be me. You know that. I i was going to be a guy who was always there. And that's that's where it is and you know most of you guys know this past year two years i don't have a long. It's been started. Coaching my kids baseball team. And that's been a blast but that also takes time. Yeah yes yes. It has been more of a blast than a than a headache. It's been heartbreaking. Sometimes you know so. I mean that's that's ultimately where it is and you know the i think the other side if i could give one more thing from a from a creative standpoint like i've done everything with the cast i could possibly ever wanna do. I've taken it as far as i want. As far as i. Now i want to go but really as far as i could go and i know that whatever you wind up doing and i know you're still trying to figure all that out you're gonna take this the show in places that i could not would not or would be willing to even go true. Yes and and so. There's a little bit of many sort of had been vetoed throughout the years. Yeah and you know. We'll see how people respond to or not. I don't remember what they were somebody. Somebody in the cia is saying. I just joined us ren actually leaving for loose cannons. No right ren is going to join sammer on the loose grants they no. No it is for those of you just joining. It is be i. I will be leaving the show at the end of the season for where we're going so that that's that's really the why it has absolutely nothing to do like i said earlier with renai having any kind of fight or any kind of creative differences or any kind of weird stuff like that You know and i've said i will You know i'm. I'm a be the cast number one fan moving forward which i suppose everybody leaving show says that are you really. I don't know i will be You know. I want nothing but nothing but the best for the show is the other thing is no matter what happens. This show will always be my baby. And i don't mind telling you can't wait for your unasked for input not going to happen. It's going to happen. I'm not going to call you if you call and ask me. I'll talk to you about what i think. But i'm not. I know it is. When i when i step out brother at your show us really wanna watch who down in full full kit wiberg sitting by the pool sipping a watching the little little toy modeled titanic going in the deep end with the ss. Peter cast just here there. You go there. You go so you guys i mean hey out there look rennes going to all the moral support. You can give no rinse going to be fine guys. He's going to be just fine. And i i don't know i don't know what you plan on doing are you. If you're gonna run solo or you're gonna get another co host or I'm sure the entire format of what you do is going to change. Yeah it's the formats going to change. The live showed won't go anywhere i you know. I think that's both of our favorite shows by far sure and it's the most popular show we do by right by far by far. Yeah by far. Yeah sure i'd say that and there's gotta be some type of weekending show. I liked the bucket in the news. I like the name. And i sort of liked the format. Even though we've changed it a bit over the years Fine tuned it is the word run. We find it. Sure we fine tuned it I still feel it's missing something. Sure but i don't know what that is. I never really thought about it. Finally had to Till now And then you know it's it's sort of up in the air for four mid week show or not. I think they're necessary. But i don't wanna do sort of like you know what we got away from this year. Here's my final word on the vikings game. Here's what i paid for that happened. In the falcons game you know because that's what everybody does and and there are you know they're really there are so many like youtube channels and buccaneers podcasts. Out their support for this podcast comes from the first one with dj calendar. A new podcast only available on amazon music with yours. Dj cabinet and this is the first one we hear from all the alias. Music stars like j galvin. Nah kelly rowland about solve. That didn't change the game but changed their life. It's almost like sometimes before you even get an industry. It's like you set up to fail in his cell many moments where you can win and the winning is great but is so many things that you go through to get to the win as so much more stories about the first hits that took them to the next level changed her life overlooked to be an overbooked when i was recording. The song already knew he was going to be global. Hit and i'm not joking my g. I really felt that. Inside of me i was. I just can't wait to see a number one. Join me every thursday. With the first one drops only on amazon music less skull. Everybody it's elaine. Welter off and i'm hosting a new podcast called built to last by american express where we will dive deep into the stories history and continued legacy of small businesses that shape american culture are debut season. We focus on black owned small businesses. That need our support now. More than ever each episode we feature story of a black business trailblazer that has inspired a modern black owned business. first up is pinky. Cole of atlanta's food truck turned restaurant celebrity. Vegan we'll also chat with nathan the cutting edge designer behind the three digital fashion show. Plus we'll check in with each array are modern day renaissance. We hope that it encourages all of our listeners to support these businesses as well as the black owned businesses in your own communities tune in for these amazing stories and others on spotify youtube. or wherever. You get your favorite podcasts. Why don't you tell that story because why don't you tell the story mine. Everybody like why you started it. Yeah so what happened. Sure so. I was it was it was Jameis winston's first year. And i was living in south carolina. I've always been out of market fan for the tampa bay buccaneers since i graduated college in two thousand one December of two thousand and one. And since then i've been out of market fan have never really been able to watch the team on my own terms or connect with other fans because as you guys might imagine you guys know. Listen if you're watching the show and you're a bucket and you know it's a small market team and there's not a ton of buccaneer fans spread out there so. I almost never all market though tap of metropolitan areas not a market. Okay understand why we get just like doesn't why it's not widespread like the tampa who watches followers. There's just not popular. But as far as of people around the tampa bay area that you know would consider the bucks their home. Their poem team their favorite team. Like it's like in top. Ten in united states is really okay miami cousin because like i know where i grew up in lexington kentucky we were we were in slash the bengals slash green bay packers territory and that was really far away like cincinnati was about an hour away but they sucked and nobody wanted to watch them so they'd actually put on the packers game. Local for us is typically who we saw kind of grown up so but anyway anyway all of that being said all that being said when when so my background is in sound as in sound engineering. And i'm sitting there one day. And and i'm kind of just starting to get into podcast. A there's a podcast called in session film podcast. It's a movie podcast that they had That was started by guy. That i i used to work with and they had invited me on and i kind of figured out. What podcasting was started listening to podcasts. Listening to buccaneers pack. There was only four on at the time or at least four. That i could find four that i knew of which was the tampa. Bay buccaneers official podcast. Because they actually used to have that which was basically just a radio show. They throw up a couple times a week. There was what the buck there was the bucks brief podcast and there was buckwheat. You heard like that was it. That was like the entire slate of buccaneer podcast. That i could find anyway The that i knew was out there and You know derek did a good job with what the buck of of creating the life forum. Chris chris did a pretty good job with that and one day chris hopped on and he had this very similar of announcement. I think it took about eight minutes. And he's like deuces. I'm leaving effective immediately. And i just sat back and said i don't think people listen to podcasts. And not think. What would i do if i had my own. Podcast right and i'm no different and i went home like alex was like look. I've got a soundboard there. I've got a microphone there. I've got all the cables and plug ins there. I know how to do this. I know how to how to record an edit audio. I also know how to put together a show. So let's do that. And i you know i really started as a way to. I don't know what i really. I don't know what my goal was when starting at like ultimately i just wanted to talk about the box i remember. I remember what you told me. You were hoping that. Peter would be when i had sort of i start okay. What did i say. Then you said you wanted your faith on the side of the stadium like like like that was sort of like you what you were shooting for. That had to have been me. I don't normally say stuff like that. That would have been a little tongue in cheek. When i said that there is no way. I think i lost ryan or i've lost me. Have i lost me possibly. Let's find out as i mean. Are you guys. Hey guys out there you guys see me up there. We go back. Yeah did i freeze. You froze on me. Did i mean you're you're still frozen am. I can always hear you the whole time. Okay screen you all right. Let me let me refresh quick. Nc my solo career started a little back. Are you good now. Yeah okay cool. So i froze all right. Sorry guys That's another reason. My intern sucks your serious man. You're like you're like like like it wasn't like this. Is my ultimate goal here. The steps wasn't a plan. Who was just kinda like. He's like one day. Like you know like i wanted to be. But you gotta remember back then. Like there was only three podcasts. Like like you wanted yourself up on the side of the stadium. I don't know why. I would have ever thought that. I would be on the side of the stadium. We neither i do not. I haven't seen i have i have. I have no recollection of ever having a deluge. Hey guys let me give you a hint. The tampa bay buccaneers are not going to play any member of the certified media or especially the fringe media or a podcast or on the side of the stadium. That's reserved for about eight players. That's about it. Yeah like into by fighting a guess no now you know what you know what i thought i. This was not a goal. But i thought that this would be cool like when they have their events like the draft party and different things like that like if we had like been popular enough or had enough of following like we like host the kind. Like what scott. And casey do you know like where they sort of host those events like. Because i didn't know. I didn't know how it works. I was very naive back then. But you know if you get enough. Following people want to because they get the radio guys to come in and do the stuff like that like way we could host decide down here but that was not a that was not the reason why i started the podcast. The reason why i started the podcast was really just a connect with buccaneers fans. And see if i could do it and very much learned on the fly as i was doing it and Let's i guess what you know what it was. And i've had this mantra since i ever since i started was done. I don't want to copy what other people are doing. I want to do something new. And i want to add to the conversation and at the time it was pulaski in easterling. They were those. Were the other guys. That had a show was strolling. They had a show. And no no chris fisher was bucks brief. Were something. I it wasn't in the it was something had due with the line with with. Yeah yeah it was. It was something and then eastern left to go do Usa today or whatever he was doing there and polanski started taking the voicemails and doing the doing the bucks takes like that. And i thought okay. Well that's cool derek. Has the live radio show. What if i were able to take live phone calls and so i scrapped scrapping scrapped and figured out how to do that and we did that over the bye week that year that i hear that was cool but then i had all the equipment in the gear to be able to do that right and and decided to say hey. Let's see if we can do a post game. Like instant reaction show you know and then i thought well. Why don't we just push those two together. And thus the instant cast was born Was basically us taking live. Phone calls. And tell us yeah. Yeah you're right. It was me you know and then that went for a couple of weeks and and i knew that i needed a co host. Can i had. I had new co host like every week. You know like. I was going through the list. James for first guest on the podcast. James jarkko from locked on bucks. Yeah yeah he will. He will hold that Sorry 'cause he was at the time he was at the link at the time. That's right and i don't think he actually i know fact. He and david had not started their podcast. Yet at the time was called talking the plink and And they started that they started. That somewhat later you came on later that year is one of the guest. I had met you in the chat room. With what the buck bucks. Then a few times and you called in. Yeah that's right. You call it a few times and complain about donovan. Smith probably probably mccoy right right. It was not bucks uncensored k. Are that was the show. That came after luke left. It was it was the same show. Justin just changed the name but it was. It was called something else like it wasn't in the trenches and somebody out there is going to remember what it is. Somebody's listening to this. And they'll they'll be like whatever in the trenches. Yeah it was at that. But not in the trenches Anyway so yeah so so you came on. And then i think brought you back a i forget the order of how this goes back on a second time because somebody bailed on me and then i got you in for the pure cast awards the very first one that we ever did get you in here cast awards and i i remember going into that show and thinking. Hey if this works out really well. Then i'm gonna ask them to be the co host. You know here at the end of the show and kind of stopped this rotating cycle of people. Because that's annoying trying to find somebody new every single week. Yeah is it. Ran like yeah. That's annoying but off the edge. That's what they called it off. I told you something do with the line. I knew it was anyway. So yeah and then you came on board and and away we went man. We had different segments. We've dropped segments. We've added segments we've dropped shows we've added shows and the show has grown and that's the other thing is the show has come to a spot where i don't feel i can take the show backwards. You know what i mean like. I can't imagine myself doing the -puter cast and this is a once a week. Podcasts for something this doing it to do it because you don't want it to die. Yeah but but not but scaling back on everything. Yeah like the pure cast is bigger than that. Now it's bigger than me. It's bigger than than all those kinds of things. So you know. And i. I told you this when i i mentioned this to you. You know several weeks ago. I was like you know i really contemplated actually like just say. Hey you got go start your own show. Because i'm not gonna let you have the gas because it's mine but that was silly and well that's right but i decided to say no no no Let it live on let. Let's keep going and and you know in order to do that. That means that. I have to step away completely and Just let you take it and be okay with whatever happens so anyway here we are. That was a very long winded. Answer to your question which anybody who's been listening to the show for a long time knows that's par for the course. Yeah me though. so what. What was it like going on the air for the first time and no i not that necessarily but what was it like. When you could go onto like apple podcasts. See your logo and click on and hear your voice like knowing that every single person in the known universe who has a smartphone could could. Now listen to your opinion on the buccaneers There there was a part of me. That was like every chance i got like. I was clicking the button just here. It's like oh there it is again. I imagine what it's like for seniors who like hero song on radio like they know the song they've they. There's nothing new about this on. There's something cool about hearing it like. Come through that particular player Counted for a bunch of the downloads. at all. But i was it was just cool. It was like look. It's it's very. It's very like i hate to i hate to. I wish i had better words for it but it just other than it was cool man like it was it was. It made me giddy. I'll tell you what i really loved. Though was when this logo came out when this logo because before this it was It was a pewter background with the with the helmet and then just the lettering on it. Because i made it very quickly in photoshop and i mean very quickly because you have to have something in order to submit it to apple and i think we ran with that for about a year or so maybe to something like that and And then actually commissioned this. I had a buddy of mine. Make this for me Cost me about two hundred fifty bucks. And i was happy to pay it and He i i mean it. Was you remember when you rolled it out like it was such an upgrade such an upgrade and great time now right right and it's i mean it's i it's a cool. I still love the logo like a lot. Pointing are you are you changing. Are you going to change the name. I roll things like like. Peter cast two point. Oh or theater. Cats seventy sixer. Because that's what they call you know like the orange that'd be that'd be a cool podcast. Name the seventy six or tampa. Bay buccaneers podcast. Yeah yeah but now that would have that would be short lived because eventually we're all going to die off. It'll be short-lived. But you know that. That would i wouldn't go on forever. I i had a couple of things rolling around in my head. But i have no. I really don't like nothing's been set in stone. And i'm not even sure if i think it's a good idea yet to be honest. Yeah i remember like the first time. I remember when like during the off because you asked me to come on after the police and i said yes of course super excited i went and told cheryl she could give two shits with very very hurt. Didn't wake up out of her slumber because like two in the morning that she didn't you know jump out of bed. Give me a big hug. By the way by the way while you're talking about that For for as much success as we've ever had on this show never have. I gone downstairs in penny has been like so. How is your show. was it good. Do you have a lot of listeners. What was been like. Do you know what your kids are doing right now. Why why are you still up there. Can you please get out here so we can go to the store. Because i need to go get bread or whatever like what's wrong with you go get a car. Like there's i mean from what i hear from most podcasters out their spouses or like i don't give a shit get out of there so we can go do whatever we're trying to get done. Yeah i find the same reaction like video games. Someone who played a lot of video games. It's not really necessarily that. You're not spending time with their family. It's just that you're doing video game ryan you're out in the garage or cleaning the garage. We sure hope for hiding from my wife. You know that's fine and you could go out there like every saturday for three hours. No problem but if but if like every saturday for three hours you podcast every saturday throughout you set video games now. It's a problem and it's like okay. Okay sheldon jump out of bed during shocking and so then we used to stay up like so the offseason came and then we drink show every every two weeks l. You'd like three and a half hour shows three hour and a half hour shows last two weeks right and there there. Is this time. Where like like there was this thing that was happening in the stats world. Where we're like. What we discovered was the longer our shows were our numbers are skyrocketing. Yes and we're like creator to four hundred. No no but no no. It was getting up to like at the time like four or five thousand downloads per episode which was like and we couldn't figure it out and then all the sudden like they changed how they calculate stats and it reduced to like hundred like seven eight hundred and then we built it back up and then they changed how they did it again and it reduced it again right son of a bitch they keep changing the standards of how they measure these things. You know. listen guys. Hey listen little background in the world of stats out there. If somebody's proclaiming that they're having you know thousands upon thousands of stats give six months. They're going to change how they county and it's going to drop down a lot so but yeah yeah unless you keep using soundcloud then but that would be the best deal. Because they'll they'll still have crappy stat reporting that. nobody trusts. But but. I don't know that if i was going to try to sell advertis- like advertising locally to the peter kass with ren or the peter cast two point zero or the real peter casts from the better peter cash peter castaway show. He should have been all names. I'm more. I'm thinking about your not funny funny anyway by the way. But if i do local advertiser i would bring the soundcloud numbers. Sure sure because they don't know how it works. No no i. Actually you know what i would do honestly is i would go in with prepared and explain to them how it works. And why soundcloud is a bunch of crappy numbers and why these numbers that i'm presenting to. You are actually trustworthy numbers and why those numbers actually matter and why not sound crowd. I would absolutely not do that. I wouldn't be if i according to soundcloud third-biggest biggest podcasting at work or networks. I or whatever it is out there might be the biggest might not anymore because no one follows the numbers out. He whiskey miss your opportunity. The gold rush is over but yeah we used to stamp remember like we do a three. Three and a half hour podcast. And then this is back when you actually used to like the edit. And then you'd stay up to like two to thirty editing. I say on with you and we talk about harry potter. We talk about star trek. And we talk about you know like your wife my girlfriend. We talk about all kinds of stuff. We actually became friends. Yes and then you're like okay. It's a seal later. Okay bye-bye then. I would have to wait like fifteen minutes for actually populate. Yeah yeah yeah. And then i would listen to it right away right three and a half hours at nine in the morning i listen to it right then. I would usually start like by the time. I got down and like god bed like i could start it like just as you know okay. It's there but i would usually. I would listen to it the day after but for me listening to the show i realized this you know after a while when you when you record a show. You don't actually always remember what you say right right and so like there's a little bit of like listening to it again as a listener. You're like oh that was a good point or got something like an idiot. The other side of it for me. And i don't know if you've ever used it like this but the other side of it for me was kind of like watching game film. How did we listen here. How do we do that. How did that transition go. Like i would pick it apart like that. I eventually stopped doing that after five years. Quit listening altogether. I check it right now for the ad drops just to make sure that those are good. And that's that's about it. So i i used to come on. I gotta quit laughing out on my nose because remember that old. I i remember that you maybe get like i. I had like sort of like before. Earbuds were your buds. Had wired earbuds like this and then like you'd be like yeah those like you gotta get something else. So i went and got the snowball mic like. Put it on the day right note. That's not good so i'd have a couple of pockets. Hold it in my hand this before. Anything on video. We see each other ever. We weren't even see when i met. You came down state at my house for. Because you're going to a game we're gonna game. You're nice enough take me. I'd never seen him before. Yeah i remember that and you got out of the car and you're like holy church and six four three one. What is what do you think. I don't know i'm not gonna tell you what you think. I'm like six four three eighty at the time fair enough. I mean like it's this is going to be the biggest person that i see in my hands down. Yes i am not a tiny person at all. No no not at all. I was like holy shit but yeah so we. Do you know what my first impression of urine was like. Not six four three. No my first question was like holy cities old because in my head because you have the vote for somebody who's never seen your face you sound like you're in your twenties young boy. Yeah a lot of people told me that you sound like you're in your twenties and like i had this. I had this picture of like this. Sort of zack. Morris college kid you know like that was my picture in like you. Walk out and your turtleneck in long sleeve shirts or shirt and like the middle of summer in florida. No this i even got my thermal this seventy so armee ever ever honestly neither will i will anyway so yeah so so we did that and i mean i guess over the years we have seen lots of other people jump in and out of the box podcasting around. We've had people like James money hill whose jumped in and started the youtube thing. I think he really kicked off. That i think. And he's doing great and fantastic and i you know again. He brought something new to the conversation or friends. James and david Jumped from the plank over two bucks nation and they had their podcast and they got hooked up with locked on brought a whole new flavor to the deal. I mean we've just like i can really say we've seen well we really have. Yeah but we've made so many good friends and people and people that i don't know two people i would actually call friends. 'cause i ain't got any friends up here but other people that i would actually call friends. Generally friends people that. I've i've been to. Their house have stayed with them Some come this way People have seen the games. The we've collaborated on various shows before and You know it's it's been a hell of ride over the last bunch of years And not to mention that. But but i will also say one of the one of the cool things is is and i this on purpose and i'm glad that it works out but getting to connect with the listeners. Like actually getting to know our listeners. And i'm thinking of chef and i'm thinking of chris from va who was from alaska who was from hawaii. Who was from the galapagos islands. Or wherever wherever the hell he's moved around to all these years you know. I mean we watched chef get married. And we've had we've seen people have kids you know out of arizona got to meet gene and go go go out to his house. I think wrestlemainia or something was on and so i sorta crashes wrestling party people. Yeah yeah he was like. Yeah and i'm like. I got my wife and my kids. I'm like Like we've seen. I mean james and then mark and and Michael plus over at robuck stalk the bucks bruce guy. Oh yeah yeah. Hey if those guys are watching it all shoutouts you guys. Because they were we. We started it like the exact same time was was buxom. Br i think they started like two weeks after i did like. Hey you're like old this been doing this for a while. Like no like two weeks men but they they they were. I was sort of felt like books and bruises like a sister. Podcast or like like you know like like how the bucks and the seahawks kind of sister organizations. They started in the same season. I can always felt felt. That about the I tweet about three months ago. Yeah yeah and they're like well you know colleges over can't stay getting drunk anymore so yeah it was like at first. You know what. I listen to it. i was like what is this. It's like four guys sitting around a glass table and you could imagine one microphone in the middle unfurnished like apartment. There's only in the middle of the room beanbags with like with like walmart for the lay a pool. Floaty someone said. And i can share that sets the blow of the other ones that the fold out the two couple. There's in it take the tailgating chair. I guess yeah and all you just here just like like all about catholic cracking beers cracking beers back. Like what is this right. But then after a while you know as with anything that you become fond of if you stick with it long enough like he started to learn the people and sort of their personalities and when they stay true to me kinda not expect the news it was just. It ended up being fun. Listen you know they make beer bets and have to like you know peyton. Barber is going to get one hundred yards this week if they didn't get it they chug a beer. Like like sean i. I made a few beers with them back in the day. And i think i lost everyone that i made. So yeah those guys. Yeah yeah so we did that. I mean but rent like. Let me let me ask you this. We've had a chance to interview a lot of guests. Do you have a favorite over the over. The last five years a favorite guests. Yeah i think when i do wrench training camp journal and it's just me i like those you're about to have that opportunity to bring it back. I was. I was thinking about this because i was like i was like what questions should i ask. Brent for this thing. And i think like an i don't really have a favorite guess. I really don't like i've never i. I've had ones that. I've enjoyed more than others. Sure but but it's kind of like you know like like derek say it's all ice cream. It's all good like if i don't have vanilla ice cream for the rest of my life like lines made from you know matt escape gaps carbonell beans like. I'm more than happy right. You still have ice cream. yeah. I'm also more than happy strawberry or chocolate or all i get is rocky road or whatever so but i i was thinking like when you know i guess you're too. We started trying to get actual media members your one for me to for you right actual media members when did it sort of sink in like holy shit. I can't believe this person. Said yes. And i'm gonna talk about football with them for me like i listened like like you had listened to what the buck i never listened to chris fisher show. I didn't know it was out there right like it finished before i even knew it was out there. I wasn't even sure what a podcast was. A guy like went out. I was on one right. And i really couldn't explain it to somebody at the time. Like what. what is it like radio. But you know on-demand radio. It's kind of like what i would tell people right so you know but i would hear. Cook come on a lot with derek right so you know when he would come on our show like being your one for me here to or we'd had scott reynolds like i kind of expected them guys to say yes so i think i think it was greg greg allman i was gonna say greg and i think i had greg on once during the the first year but i don't i mean there there was something different When you came onto the show where. I think we we were. I think you and i melted really well really really fast. And we bounced off each other really really fast And and when we kind of when we started doing those media interviews especially. Yeah i i want to say. Gregg allman was sorta that i like. We got somebody like that guys. Like legit you know right. I can't believe these people want to talk football with us there. And they're not going to charge me money for some sort of talent fee or something like that. Yeah they listen to our show before. Like what are they they. They said what they said. Yes rain right. Okay right but when i know that let me ask you this like and i think i know the answer so now. I'm being unfair here. But like only ask you your question right back actually ya. Who is your favorite or one of your favorites or one of the shows that you like. I think i think the one that immediately my mind goes to is probably the Highest profile guest. We've ever had Was terry bradshaw. Yeah you know. And i mean that i mean that guy was just a hoot to talk to you and it was very nice to he was incredibly and you know what i remember most about that is you're sitting there going. Holy shit. that's terry bradshaw. Because they reached out to us. I didn't reach out to them. They reached out to us because they were doing. And my first thought was. that's bullshit. This is not terry bradshaw. No way and we went well. Let's let's see what happens and let's move on but yeah we were talking about buck nasa getting into the into the hall of fame and he comes on and like his handler. Guy was like look. You gotta make sure you're talking about the hall of fans that but he'll talk about some other stuff too if you want to and it was like what the hell would we talked about. And like they were pretty strict like fifteen minutes or whatever. The time line on that was just doing this. Who sitting at his desk on the phone is doing this all day. Long list of people he was calling across you know for for whatever whatever groups and i and i kept looking out there to see like what. Other buccaneers podcast. He was going to be on. Because i figured it'd be on a couple he wasn't it was just ours so Super go so. I wanna say thank you to terry. If he's ever listening or people who called us and said hey we want to do your show. That was super awesome I also really enjoyed the the author that we got. Not not the bruce arians book but the other one the Oh crap what was his name. I'm trying to find the book on my shelf over there. Right now. lars anderson. No no that was the bruce arians. One i'm talking about the other guy. The the yuks the guy who wrote the yuks jason jason buick. jason view. Yeah that was a super cool interview to me. Because that was the first time we reached outside of the tampa bay media market. And we got kind of somebody that and it wasn't just a media person talking about what's currently happening with the buccaneers. You know so. I definitely that that was one of my favorites as well Yeah i i hate to pick anybody within the the bucks ecosystem Because i like them. All and there. I don't i don't like them all. I mean i do like that's fair. i like i have there. I like the way they approach their job. Some of them the way they do it more than others. Sharon us but i liked them all and i kind of always going to have a big thing for you was like like stroud was kind of like you're like holy shit like sort of a crowd. Rick stroud was sort of like the apex. Shroud doesn't go on people's podcasts. No he doesn't like barrow sars. We've asked and hasn't been back on ours right many times right or email. That li like seen him personally. And stroud. i mean stroud was the one who said he was like. Look one of the cool things about your podcast is. Is you get to go into a long forum. Deep dive on stuff like it's designed to be a much longer talk ryan lengthier talk whereas what he has to do with his show or his his articles is. It's got to be very concise small. We're where our show is designed. And honestly i think it was. It was hearing. Rick say that that gave me permission as show producer to really loosen up with how tightly i felt like i was controlling the show and allow the show to just sort of grow and evolve in and not try to short circuit. A conversation I i still have always sort of. I've always had this running clock in my even right now. I have a running clock in my head of what's going on with the show and when do we need to move on to. The different topics are okay. That's enough talking about that. Move onto something else. I still have that. But i think it was almost rick gave me permission to like. No no no no let that dive a little bit deeper and go go forward go as far as it needs to have gus okay. Good going to star trek. No no no. 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And we've got the new skull swords lap on the on the podcasts. Yeah yeah oops anyway. Sarah's i'm leaving the show. I don't give a shit aimar. Whatever weeks ago look shows hit an hour. i'm out guys. That's the time five minutes at five hundred commercials laters deuces. I'm so yeah. I do want to be well. I don't know i throw back over to you like what you said. You had like questions or anything you wanted to ask so. I didn't thinking of some questions. And that's about as far as i got. Gotcha gotcha i i will. I will tell you what i think. i can't say that it's my favorite memory but it's one of my favorite memories and one of my favorite i think episodes we've ever done is a show called what'd any one short day at one place stay up. Oh yeah okay get this so not only do it. Three and a half hour pockets is would stay out with brent and just talk like you said earlier become friends then we would have a twenty minute conversation with to name the episode man. We used to care then. We got smart like look. We don't need to spend twenty minutes title. Just put it up there and say what it is. Let's go yeah. And and i mean frankly all of that kind of stuff factors into what's going on here like i don't have the thing. I can't stay up until two three o'clock in the morning. Put this crap together because you know what up in the morning because those kids are gonna come bouncing on my on my chest at seven o'clock in the morning whether i like it or not. I had cats. But you could throw. No i'm not gonna say nevermind food and then go back to bed exactly. Yeah that's right. Yeah go through food in the bowl and go back actually. Sometimes you can do that with kids to have all the fruit loops all of them. Don't leave one on the floor. Go can't wait to you. Learn how to use the microwave but no it was called it. My favorite episode one of my favorite episodes ever done one of the most memorable ones one short day at one buc place and what had happened was idea an invite from the guys at pewter report come down and it was the very first time i ever had a media credential in my life and i was able to get into the facility and i was there as a media member for the day with them in their organization and i came back from that. And you're like we're doing a pot about that right now sit down i wanna hear every last detail recount every second of your entire day right now. What did you see and it was. It was kind of like a. It was one of the first times i think that as fans we had ever gotten like an inside look at the facility. Yeah right and we got you got in the door. Yeah because i wanted to know. I was insanely jealous. Not like mad at you would ever remember. I remember like an talk about being naive. You talked about earlier. Like i remember. How disappointed i was at the media. Room wasn't like overstuffed leather chairs with like this thickly cigar. Smoke in guys just like i remember what ty cobb by you know how rock and you're like no. It's like a library is a library college library. No one talks anybody. All year is people clicking on their computers cubicles. They're all set goals down. It's very you know. Got a whisper. It yeah yes. And i remember what i would've first time. I'm like you twenty seven. It was but the chairs are pretty nice comfy. I'll give you that i mean. They're not leather chairs. They're just little office but still but their office shared. It's not like the metal falling chair or some type of plastic stackable chair. There's cushions on it and it rocks. Right they don't all squeak so some do some do some. Don't i remember this when ren did finally go to one place it was on. It was on like a behind the scenes tour. And they're like oh yeah. Does anybody notice anything special about the carpet. And ren like i think you were just trying to say it loud enough so i could hear but he said it loud enough for everyone in the room to hear you go yet ugly but it was not a whisper. It was a flow. I think i started out. Go like saying to you. Yeah but halfway through thought like like you know what lady need to hear fucking uglier like she stopped and she goes no has ships in it or flags. Or whatever flags yeah. They're they're bucks legs airport or movie your carpet. You know her better hotel hotel carpet every time. The minute hotel. And i'm walking across any kind of pattern. That could look nothing like what they have in the buccaneer facility. It's still it's just. It's that kind of monotonous pattern I think you busy so when you drop piece of paper popcorn or whatever. It doesn't show up right because they're the you know the pattern just so busy and ugly and crazy and they have that in one buc place. Do they're proud of it and they pointed out because it looks like bucks. Flax buck flag. But they're like they're like they're like lake lake inner. What hannity on the camera. Like they're like interwoven. It's like a bucks like this way and bucks like this way like they need to each other anyway so yeah so to have that but then i mean ren we gotta talk about over the last couple of years having media credentials getting media credentials. I mean when that happened. It's like oh okay. Yeah because i will say this. And i fully. I notice when i started the podcast i went. Hey i can get media credentials now and go to any game. I want for free because now covering the bucks. That's going to be awesome. And i remember the very first time. I had scott reynolds on the show. I like get him to the mike scott. You've been doing this for like twenty some odd years me. How did you become fan like that. Must be awesome to like cover a team like you gotta really love the bucks to cover them for that long. And he's like. I can give two shits about the bucks. I'm not a fan. I'm a media guy like this job and i was like. Oh okay remember when they When they invited you to because they need they. Dan launched their podcast. Which by the way we brought. We brought them kicking and screaming. We kept badgering and badgering them in badgering them. And they wouldn't do it and then trevor shoulder. yeah so. We started badgering trevor. any trevor. basically looked at them. And what you guys need to start. And then we had him on and then they had like a bowling event at a pinch cases which the always do and i went to introduce myself to trevor for the first time. And i'm like hey surrounding. Goes he goes. Why do you want to podcasts. Your drives is great. I was like really auditor that that's and i was like thanks. It's because we're not in the room. Trevor it's because we don't get open locker and this is before they started Broadcasting all the interviews. All the press conferences and stuff the press conference. Yeah like now you can watch them live on youtube or facebook. Watch on youtube. Do not watch on. Facebook has nothing to do with facebook. Page which is get spammed with an indian website and how to watch nfl and then it's been like that forever. Just go watch money to so yeah and then What was i gonna talk about darn it. Oh so yeah so yo yak so you had gone there to help them because they had like a faulting wire in being there have yeah they. They were charging money for their podcast. That was nice. That was nice. Sound for whatever it was that they had going on so so you fix it in and you know you're going down there and mark cooks like probably end. You said like the night before. Yeah he got. I like the night before you know it was like okay. Mark sound like. I'm coming down because i'm i live in jacksonville. This the three and a half hour trip. I'm getting mukarram driving the next morning. And he's actor sleeping or wait. No i think. I actually went in stayed in a hotel that night because i'd like needed to be there early in the morning anyway. I didn't care. I was leaving and i was. I was packing packing stuff and marks like. Yeah so just you know. Go to the gay. Let him know you're there with me. you know have them call me if they need to. Oh and by the way of he says and of course. Don't wear any bucks gear. Of course while i received that message. I'm in my closet. Like pulling out like my bucket near shirts. And i go back to go of course not and i put them back boy. Yeah i'm part of the media. Press now like i'm not a fan anymore. Yeah get there. And you're tired and bucks up that that's right and i get there and i was like every buccaneer staff member is wearing team issue stuff like no like you're either in a suit or your team issue. That's it and i was like. Oh like it actually makes sense why they don't want media people wearing buccaneers stuff outside of just the not being fan. Sorry to tell who works like it's part of their uniform. I guess yeah. yeah yeah. Yeah that was that was. That was one of those behind the scenes. Things i told you Yeah you're right sports nuts and don't be silly or the first time where you talk about media credentials. We got to go to training camp and watch the bucks practice because we start off in the media you know and we're like can like we can ask a question like leg protecting our pr guy like like like for like. Can i talk to a player is talk to. Who can't we can't get out on the field and intercept pack. He's like you're probably not gonna talk to jamie's or gerald or mike but asked me about anybody else but there's but there's a Like guy safety fifth on the depth. Patrick o'connor yeah four. Yeah the sack five years before he has a sack right. All this john lewis john mamola says he's always enjoyed our content fellow guys like you continue to push guys like us in. Wd a thanks. John thank you on. I wonder if he knows that You're quitting. Yeah oh and jonah. Something i to teach you about I'm not wd a local radio station here. But i'm not sure you know who rondi as is i know who he is now. I didn't before getting into this job. Yeah i just saw that he retired. Yeah yeah so you're retiring together there. You go but but hey jay richer who we brought on recently and i was like. He's the best sports mind at the station. Yeah yeah congratulations. Hey jay. I'm gonna tell you guys this there will be there will be a A pure cast award. We always do one called. Peter cast guest of the year. Jay retro should be on that list and very well should probably win that because he was fantastic to have on the show. And i'm saying that without thinking through everybody else who's been on the show because we've had a lot of people this year So no no dissed anybody else. I'm just saying jay was fantastic. When he came on the show he had a plea of somewhere. I met he had a very thought out. Well informed opinion on anything. We ask them. Do you remember okay. So interviewing media members or people like you always knew it was going to be a good interview when you would remember. We stayed like we each have like a list of questions we wanted to ask and stuff and they were like we like we got to a point with anybody where it'd be like okay so mike evans and they go for twenty minutes. Okay dirk cutter said this in the press conference and they'd go for twenty minutes. Yeah this is the easiest thing ever both just this gotta get him on the show eight. Yeah we'd have like five six questions e to be we'd have them on twenty minutes to half an hour and we get like 'til like fifty nine minutes in two months with the lord like all right all right. This is a different but again this is you know. And plus podcast new back then. Yeah you know well everybody. Everybody in the media room has their own podcast. Now except for jenna laine and she might even have one. We just don't know what it is. Greg doesn't think he it. Well nobody but i i'm. I'm complete making that up. No greg i do not have their own podcast together. But i mean general was doing the radio hit with trevor and rick and still is still as scott has taken trevor spot. Ledger stepped in a couple of times. Scott was out. Who's the other news. Pat donovan scrap. Stroud was there one more proud. No it was donovan. Stroud or yet donald stroud jenna and trevor and then scott and scott. Yeah yeah so anyway. So i mean so she has that going on and and you know geno god bless her with the espn roll Who knows what all they restrict her to. You know i gotta tell you. One of the coolest moments one of the coolest was when i managed to get this recording touchdown table here listening to the cast. I found the rawal recording of that. Where saying want to hear it. Oh the i'm not sure where it is found it the other day retina training camp. But we're not media credential yet. I think it's the year before we got credentialed. And we're hanging out and They're on the outside fields and they had the bleachers with awnings up canopies up and you know the player come over and sign autographs and brand at the time. I totally lost this. But at the time i was a big person like a big personality was like i don't wanna bother them now like like i don't wanna like but now i kind of understand like if you ask. They're just going to say yes and if they know like and most people honestly they don't even tell you know they just won't respond to you right so you really don't get rejected at all. You get ghosted. Uh-huh which which is fine but so work along. The fence were way down at the end Way up by the building Farthest from the entrance as you can get as far as where they were. The fans come in and brands up there with he's got headphones on and he's got a hand held recorder. He's got a mike with like a twenty five foot core. He's got back curled up. He's he's wave as mike and every after cutter. You're waving in front of like your way in front of audio from everybody in getting from everybody. Just like no like doesn't know care in the world like big brass balls sticking our confront an air base and and Yeah i i didn't see you but that's where you got decker hof and i i didn't see you get it but i really being about it. Yeah i found it here. I got the whole thing. You want to listen to it. Yes it's about fifteen seconds long so ago. Not that one. Here on the micro touchdown tampa bay kansas. You say you're listening to the peter can you to they tell me i can't but touchdown tampa bay. You're listening to pewter cashed. There it is. Did he talk back right. We will use this but can you say we won't use it. I just said can you say you're to the podcast casts. I wanted to stay by the way. So here's what i here's like as he goes on not really like he did this like i'm not really supposed to like. He looked around to see if anybody was close by and he goes can and he just did it for me like gene. Gene is a super super personable. Guy like i like. I've gotten to have several conversations with him post that like he always remembered me like like later as a full credentials like he always remembered me in subsequent years. Knew knew who. I was which is awesome. Like hey they they know me. They knew who i am now. Being six four. I guess yeah hard to hard to forget right but Yeah he he before doing that like. I was just trying to find anyone from the team to do that. Because i like. That's what i wanted. I didn't necessarily fire. Hey you're listening to the pure. This is so and sonia listener gas. They had the cheerleaders setup out there. And i was like okay. This is the closest. I've got right. And i would have been like asked a couple of the cheerleaders. And one of their like handlers. Like for the bucks came over. They can't do that. You've gotta get that out of their face like slapped me down so when i asked you decker off like i had in the back of my head link. Oh apparently they don't allow people to do stuff like this but better to ask for forgiveness than permission exactly after forgiveness never permission. So i was surprised he did it i was. I was shocked that he did it. And now at the beginning of every single episode tampa bay you're listening to pewter cast seem decker. Hof thank you thank you. You made my podcast for the last like few shows you're on you should start from the point where you ask them to say our here. The whole thing and played the whole thing on the micro all right touchdown tampa bay cannon. just for. you're listening to the i. Guess i can you tell me. I can't but touchdown tampa bay you're listening. Pewter terraced in the microphone lagging but but that's like look. I don't want you to get in trouble. I don't you get in trouble but if you can't be cool i'm attorney you know trying to get you started yet. You don't want to get you fired or anything. Yes i would like you to do that. Turns out i can make that happen anyway so anyway. So we've had that and then and then remember when this parlayed into actual full media credentials for about six weeks of the apollo with the apollo's. What have we show tilapia polish. Show time with the apollo's pot. I hated that show. You know what. I realized in that show. I didn't care about that team at all and doing a show on a team that you don't care about socks being a beat reporter but you see you know what i was convinced of was if we do the show and we get to know these players and we get to know what's happening and we get to like like if we just got into it we'd be fine you know and then i realized oh. This team is going to blow up every single year. And it's like a one and done team every year like there. There are going to be no storylines to follow you know but what we got out of that was we got. We got to know what it was like to be in a press room in a press press box and why we don't actually want to be in the press box guys. Listen to me. If you're a fan and you had to watch the game by ticket and go sit in the stands. Don't go to the press box. It's a horrible place to watch the game. If you're trying to just watch the game i would say. Go to the press box. But as with my leather chairs and the brandon krisztal and the cigar. Smoke that expected to be in the media room Be prepared to be disappointed in the press box. Yeah but i think if you have a chance to do at once do it. Oh yeah yeah. no. I'm saying like england but but if you have one shot the see. The buccaneers play all season. And like you have a choice of like going. Seeing the press boxer in the stands stand because the reason for that. Just the people when you're in the press box you are completely cut off from what's happening in the stadium like the energy the mood the momentum the the like all of those things that make going to a game fun. You're completely cut off from that like you. You don't even really hear the roar a whole lot up in the press box either at least from where we were. And apollo's games weren't necessarily empty like they had they had pretty pretty yeah so anyway But yeah we we got to learn. That was like and it was enough for me to go like honestly like i played it for to my mind if we ever actually had full credentials with tampa bay buccaneers. I wouldn't wanna watch the game from the press box. Like i still wanna buy a ticket. And go be in the stands. The only thing. I want the credential is to go after to the press conference after and be somebody who gets to ask the questions. I want to be in the press box. And thus the difference between you and me but but if but if we did the public commercial blaring in my ears all right you hate. You hate the stadium. We've covered that i hate. I hate the way they treat me. As i get it i get it i. I don't i'm not going to whip out my phone and pushed the yellow truck to make sure it was. You know the tug of war with the blue truck. I don't care. Let me like me. Talk to the person next to me. But it's so loud you can't breaks so yes we have covered that jay. Kitty you're not gonna have any more is someone to edit your very long winded speeches anymore. Good life oh the number of times. I have taken a twenty minute dietary from ren and cut it down to six. I've i've quit just saying like you neutered me quit even bringing it up and it's happened recently by the way this year. Yeah a couple of times. Yeah yeah the same show. Like i went off a couple of people and made it sound like. I really wish you wouldn't burn the cookies. That's bitch the way i look at it. Like you're trying to protect me or the show or both ed a lot of its you most of. It's a show but my first priority is the show used to get me very upset But now i'm just but i also always made your promised a like a outside. It was. I would never let him doing it. No no no 'cause 'cause as the the owner and producer of the show. I was maintained that right but i was never gonna change. Change the context of what you said. Now i may eliminate a thing altogether. But if i'm editing something that you said into something smaller i'm i'm never going to change. The the trump flipped like a change might my point of view. I was never. I was going to always keep that intact. Always i was always trying very careful. Like i want you to be able to say what you want to say or or put out your opinion on how you wanted to put it out. But i i didn't need it to be twenty five minutes either on the same topic like that was it. That's that's that was mostly so anyway with that rent i can see. I'm boring. you and that was my shocked face. Twenty five minutes me gold buddy. Listen people out there about to get a whole lot longer if you maybe. Maybe we'll see we'll see so anyway So yeah so. That's it so we we come out here and i'm leaving. The show into the season could happen. Last year could have happened last year. A new coming for awhile did you. I can tell last year like like every off season. I get a little upset with you about trying to nail you down to a time in a day and all that kind of stuff and then and then we'll record you're like okay. I'll get it out tonight by and then like record on monday and then like thursday. After i'm like. Hey where's the show. Oh but i've come to learn that you know that was sort of like trade off with your family and it's like you know during the off season it's really family. I type of deal So you know i. I understood that. I was just something i was going to have to live with but during the season i could tell it was like wearing on you and like you said like by that time halfway through the season last year like it it'd become a machine you know like like we did like we have to take notes. We already know what we're going to talk about coming in like you know i used. I used to sit and watch games with my phone and hand taking notes like play by play notes or like quarter-by-quarter notes. And i don't do that anymore appreciates it's like it's like when i did the dax stats like six games. And then i quit and no one said a word. No one said we're when i get them. I quit doing a no look. Hey we're decks that like melon cares on like this is a lot of can work keeping a running tally. Yeah so you know it just like you're more creative person and you know it's that's that's what it is free. It's all about the creativity in the process of creation is what you like. And what drives you and you know halfway through last year. The team's losing the show is like not that the contents bad but we just had it down pat and just kind of turn them out. You know it's like after the game this day after wednesday we do this thursday. We do that for some friday. We do this. And then keep going over and over and over and over again for like sixteen weeks i i can just tell that it was wearing on you and you know it's not like it's like you hate it but you excited about it anymore I everything you said. There was one hundred percent fair and accurate. And and i remember listening to two buck- nasty when we had him on their big nasty bucket. Has two big nasty. You know. and he even said like this isn't fun anymore. That's what i'm going to quit. And i remember him saying that and i just kind of went you know but i mean here's the thing like part of what made this decision so hard is the show is doing better than it ever has before i mean like like if the show started tanking that makes it a little bit easy. You know what. I mean walkaway. No one really notice right like despite the eight hundred forty three. Other buccaneers podcasts. That are out. there are numbers. Continue to climb. Every single. every single year. Like hand has to john mola. I don't know if he's the watching or not. But we made the final four bucks media. We'd be in a popularity contest rates without a lot of campaigning. No f- what do you. What is peter kass. Got like not even three thousand followers. We do now. We have over three thousand now. Okay i'm like. I broke two thousand nine. I personally have like eleven hundred. Y'all come follow me. Hey hey y'all wanna keep up with me. Find me brunell because i'm not running to cast anymore after a couple of weeks. Yes they can. I can see you tweet about how the first base umpire just doesn't like your team. There's only one empire. I there's no i bates guy. Where does he stand. Sometimes he stands over like between third plate and sometimes between for third and i sometimes by the pitcher. Some just depends on where he wants to stand third and home plate. How can you see first base. It's ninety feud forty-five feet away with this. I've never gotten a measuring tape out in mission. It's not that far. But i will tell you to your point there. I have often sat there and god. Are you blind. I could see that from over here. He was safe by mile like mile. Like you weren't even looking at first. You were looking at third. What are you doing calling him safe. You can't look at two places at once you've got to be safe. No matter what out this guy was saved. I got i forget where we're talking about that talking about the old days what we're talking about. Yeah so so so. Last year. I said depending pending. I'm done. I'm done with the show. I'm donald show out and then she said no. You're not allowed to quit. She's like you just need a break. That's what she told me she's like you need break from the show and you're about to get that and i like every year because it's such a grind. We're doing three four shows a week. Overdoing four shows a week for three years right. And and that doesn't start in september for us that started in july The run started in july. 'cause we we would hit training camp while you were doing. Rinse training camp journal. Like there is a time. When like i was still editing putting them up or you know. I'm still trying to get done. The training camp as often as i could which was not as easy as it seemed We still had shows sort of like minicamp starts like we're all bucks all the time. It's not like it's not a four-month get it's not a sixteen week deal. It's not that it's more of. It's more of a six month. Yeah it really was and by the time like you get to the end of it. It'd be like like. I hate to say this as a bucks fan. I was kinda glad. We didn't make the playoffs. Because i was done. You know and and honestly what. I what i've realized in bucks is once you hit the holidays like once. You hit thanksgiving especially if your team's not doesn't have much to play for but but once you hit that like between like christmas parties in in in what you're doing and moving out like there's there's not a lot of space for podcasts. You know and yeah. The listenership starts to end the listenership drops off in december. Quite a bit. And i've i've noticed that's been true slightly this year. Not as dramatic as it's been in previous years but but you know things get predictable and that was always one of the the predictable things too so but yeah it was. It was hard. She said no. You just need a break. You just need a break and i will say this is true and i hope i think you probably felt the same way you get to the end of the season. I just need a break. Go away for like a couple of weeks and then like when we get back into it. It's like i've kinda missed this like glad to be back at the. I'm glad to hang out with you again. You know and hang out with and take the phone calls from people out there and do that. But i haven't been able to tell my opinion to strangers for how they're missing me. What in the world. How are they still going on right right so so we would do that. And then you know we ramp up for the draft and then was rookie camp and then minicamp and then you know we'd be right back at and when they signed. Tom brady like see. I told you not to quit on the superbowl. Told me that you're one zero this year. Whatever i do. I do the dance. No no but you know so so we went in. I gotta tell you this whole season for me has been the question of like. Was it just because the bucks have been leaving losing or is it really time right. You know and i. I've discussed this with derek a bit. I've discussed this with corey. Maybe maybe corey. I discussed play reaction. I think of course. Of course if i'm wrong on that don't don't i know i know because i came and saw you in atlanta and we had a conversation about what it looked like stepping out and then and then you know with some people who are not involved with the show at all. Don't give to flying reps about the bucks. Who are just people in the podcasting world that i respect Then obviously i had conversations with penny. I thought long hard about it. Kinda makes only talked with a whole lot of people. It wasn't it was maybe like three people three or four people but yeah and a commission we. We did a right. A wren was not a part of this adult. So i mean so the idea that you said you know you saw it coming. And that's what got us on this whole thing like you saw it coming. I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised. All and i think that's what i said to you. I told you was so you've probably seen this coming for quite a while and leaving the show in your yep got it. Okay exactly click. That would happen when i felt like doing though. Yeah you better be just like my pappy. Which isn't true. That's not true. You say you call me a bitch. Hey by the way. I also at stuff like that out too by the way what the weird caller we had on the show this past week. Oh you did. I cut that out. No no that's my guy. I defend you a lot too. So i know i'm sure you do. Yeah that's somethin'. Like all my partners have had to do And by partners. I mean girlfriends throughout my life like i can't tell you how many times i've just sort of like been in the not only have they told me this but sort of been in the other room or something and it'd be like we'll just go ask him like i'm like i'm i. I don't control him. Like i'm just girl like why are you talking to me. And that seems what people liked to do when they have a problem with something. I say or something i do or something the way i act and i will say my younger years they were more bake. The needle probably would point to their side. More You know but i would you know strand something like i don't have to conform this. I don't have to that. But as i got older i understood that i'm making it harder for the people in my life. I'm so care the most about so just changing a little back and still get my point across. This'll be dick about it. Like a little bit of different ways. So i'm not shocked that you know there's people sliding into your dms going what the hell is up with ren when you got get rid of that loser. Yeah it's and i. And i'm sure and by the way i'm sure why i know because you've told me like you've had the people are on the other side of like dude. What's up with that star. Trek geeky harry potter eleven nerd over there. You gotta get rid of him and like you. Just take the show on yourself or whatever. Now never really. I thought you told me that. I don't think that i remember now. Yeah never i disagree with them someday. He's old anyway. don't forget right near the narcissism. I don't know anything about football. Is how that works email. Though all right well read here. We are in our and a half. So why don't we go ahead and wrap this up. I think we've gone through that but they'll be more. There'll be more to be set on this but you know i will. I will simply say this has been a blast up for all the for all the the the slog that seems like it's been for the last year and a half it really. You said this the other day it might seem like it takes me a little bit to get into it but like once minute like it usually turns on for me and i think that's like when i'm in the middle of the show like i'm like no no actually i really do love being here like and that's part of what makes this so hard because i do enjoy this. I do enjoy getting to talk to you and to the other people who call in or join us in the chat. I mean i think people like prime and macquarie from memphis even talking to that guy or corey from nashville now Who who calls in fairly frequently or mention chef got john radios remember when he first started trying to call That was hilarious. What i call him squeezy. Sweet easy we see choice that miss this weaker. Right right Another guy another guy. Don't want i saw his face. The another guy that wants. I saw his face went. Not what i pictured you to look like okay john. Yeah yeah did not know you were twelve awesome. Yeah i thought he well. He's older but he's young. Johnny yeah i thought he was like in his thirties. When i first heard woody we put up on this shelf at he right it was. It was immediate. Assume you started talking like clinton my ed. I quit laughed. Oh my god right. And i think our friends like kevin kevin flown kevin. Sloan who tonight one of those tours you went one of those behind the scenes tours with us on and gotten to meet him a few times and and sometimes it seems like aiming to go. Sit with them and stuff like that. So it's just. I mean it's been a wild ride the things we've gotten to do the things we you know the the places we've gotten to go getting to be an open locker room Be there's more i would love to have done I would have loved to have gotten that full credential like that. That would have been awesome but you ever have one game. Yes and i never got a response. They don't want to hurt your feelings. What is that nowadays people. Just ghosts you don't have like this. What is what is time sensitive. You know wasted two three days waiting on your response. When i could have been like trying to track somebody else down. I don't. I'm not going to get on with my old man ran my day. We actually respected. People responded to their questions. Tell him to fuck off right in their face. O ren is is the pg thirteen rating. Just absolutely going out the window with you now. Yeah i thought so. I mean trying to let it go. But you know. But i don't curse lake. I'm not i'm not gonna allow someone to come on or myself not gonna be like it's just you know it's not an uncensored thing. Yeah it's that's not the stick is but if you drop on everyone soya droplet. Anyone who doesn't like it. You know fuck off right right there you go seriously. Yeah one hundred and twenty more to pick from bray. Fuck off right. Speaking of which Heavier just quick. Shut out the heavy air who are perennial international guy. Ukulele pete which we've gotten to know this past year You know he's been awesome Some of the international people the folks over at uk bucks has been great I got it. Just i dunno. It's this show has been see this. This show's been super cool. And has absolute meant the world to me and get like this. They get into this by leaving wolf of wall street. See but this is why i needed to do this. Show now ran so that it wouldn't happen later but the bugs get on the super bowl and like all right. This is like i'm legitimately or just like now. I'm gonna stick around for another season. No no no no of used to make fun of my dad and my head because all his friends where were people that he met through my athletic career. So i played football baseball and i kind of dropped out of basketball pretty early so i played organized football and baseball like when i hit high school. All my dad's friends were all my coaches. My baseball coach and my football coach throughout the years. These people are still friends like they still go to europe together and take trips together and always always thought like my dad would have any friends. If i didn't play sports and now i sit here and i'm like you talked about earlier. How like you have any friends in jacksonville. Like i work from home so i don't know anybody around me right you know. So it's like. I think about all the people that i would quote unquote consider friends in my life. Right now are all people. I've met because of the buccaneers because of this show. Yeah yeah yeah. I mean i think the people that i know best in this town and we moved here about three years ago. Are the people that i know through through jude's Baseball in in karate stuff. you know. There's a handful of other people like there. There are two sets of people have moved to this town from like previous points of my past life. And i hang out with those people every once in a while but we have a very old you know goes back a long way. But outside of that yeah. That's that's really it. And frankly i don't have much time like i couldn't have friends right now. You know like the ones that make them all right see you could oscar mayer baloney to hang out watch football like you wanna give me half a your sandwich and i'll give you half of mine. Where do you. Where do you meet like guys. Hang out with ed right. Where can a guy go meet friends in his thirties. Forties and hang. Because you know what i you know what. I'm not doing on sunday during a game. I'm not going to a bar. I'm not going to the local buccaneers bar because my kids are here. And i can't just not going to ban in my family for three hours later. We start a podcast. Thirty forty year old men can meet up and and and be friends. Play dates for thirty year old man. Yes exactly play. That's what we're calling it yeah. Pd thirty there. You go there you go so anyway. So yeah so. That's it now just to be clear. Nothing's changing till we hit the end of the season. Like i'm still here. We're still doing buck in the news. We're still doing live my opinion cow. I'll be her. I will edit it all out anyway. Here's we'll be squashed. But i'm going to stop giving shit and i'm just going to tell people what the fuck i think about him. Now like your daddy at all again. Always been any of all the people that have come in contact with stop breathing in the mic. I can't stop breathing altogether. Why are you doing it like all day. Long and stop. Oh my god i never. You never stop. I've noticed that. Like i've become such a mouth breather when i'm outside i don't i don't feel like i breathe through my nose for a little while and then i'm like. Why do i feel like a mule. Tired like after the oakland my mouth and get enough air and keep the old legs and moving turn important. So i'm looking around. I'm going looking guy damn out and are one long so anyway all it wouldn't it wouldn't be gas rent if it didn't take us fifteen minutes to sign off so that's my specialty. There unlike cook. Oh you do you do that shit on purpose me. I'm just trying to wrap up the show. And you're like do you think that chris godwin likes manny grilled cheese sandwiches. Cain and i'm going what the fuck are you saying. Shut up so i could finish the show. I gotta edit it and put it out. So i got a bad a lot of times over there tackling under his breath because have to turn it off right now pow sure but no. It's normal because there's things that i wanted to say but didn't kind of organically in the conversation so i just wanted to make sure i got him out there for the end. I shouldn't say mostly sometimes. Every once in a while. Every once in a while. I i really wanted to say something. Everyone's just sort of dragging it on right. Watch you get frustrated. Because edit that out that's a bit more work as more work on the other side for me asshole. I've got this down to pull it up and go pull it out and go. That's is what she said anyway. Rents cracking rent yet. So that's time it's time that read our and forty two minutes later. Brench leaving the show rennes gonna keep it on guys not to worry. The peter cast is still going to be around. He has promised you the ending cast show. Whatever he's going to call. Peter cast live. Whatever that's gonna stick. Everything else is up for grabs. Read would you like to introduce your new co host would not because there may or may not be one may or may not have one there. You go there you go. Yeah yeah read actually has no idea what he's doing for the future. I labeled this the future of the podcast which is basically prince lieven. Now we don't know what the sex but now. It's capitalists come. we'll third earth coming out of the ocean. Listen listen if the show tanks. We'll just we'll sit back and say we know where the real talent was. So who's we'd i will say this because there's probably will not be something that gets set later and i truly actually. I truly mean this from the bottom of heart. Wren- thank you for joining me in this for the last four years. It's been a when. I say that you've become a friend i truly mean you have. You have become a friend and you have brought so much to the show. You know the the and ultimately when i when i when i made the decision to not just kill the -puter cast and say you know go to your own thing because a piece of me was like while i've always been the owner of the -puter cast and it's always been my show as producer executive producer. All those thing. The show would not have this would not have reached what it reached without. You like like it was. It was both of us together. And you're such a huge part of that and For so so thank you for joining me in this for the next five year the last five years and i can't wait to see what you do with it over the next five years or however long it goes or whatever you do but Yeah i and i just i. It's it's been it's been a good it's been a good podcasting partnership. I very much enjoyed our time together. And yeah yeah. I mean you know. I talked about a little bit earlier. You know i woke up shirl and you know when you ask the co host. I was like. I don't even remember what i said. But it took like a whole. I couldn't get the work fast enough. I'm like yeah. of course. yeah you know an accident. I don't even know how signing up for like like. I said i would have podcast. What oh yeah. Yeah what am i doing what. What taco yeah and you know. It's it's been a great distraction for me. It's been you know so much fun to be able to throw blake my opinion on the bucks and how i view the game has changed through this whole thing And you being. And i've i've said this before a few times but but not recently but you being taking on the host role and sort of like taking the back seat of the quote unquote analysis role And you know sort of let me stretch my legs in that type of thing and taking all on the technical stuff always being the host chair and you know realizing from the early for you know almost from the jump that because we we never talked about it right we have. We just hit a process. Developed it developed into. I the way i've always picture. It really turned it into that sort of Play by play versus color commentator type deal just translated for the podcast. Yeah but you didn't fight your role you know it. I don't know if you want to be color. You want to be play by play but you never beat. You never fought your role. And and even though i keep talking about how on you know trying to learn things about how i interact with people. Even four years ago. Like i don't think i would have been emotionally mature enough to be in the sort of host chair and just let let you like sort of tackled xs and os and be the one who talks a little bit more about it and and You know fills in the show other drives it like i mean do. I think that i'm a big part of what the peer catches become both. Yeah you're absolutely but there have been a lot of people who sat in this chair in the peter cash would be what it is today but sitting in your chair. There's there was there was nobody else like. You're the one that did it. Did i help. Yeah i helps you know. My personality helps a little bit yet. But you know you can get a dick for anywhere. I walk outside iraq. You'll hit some asshole. One new podcast. No okay pick the rock up thirty guests right. Yes so but yeah. You're the one who did on in had the vision the first place and did the commitment and look man. We've got people in the chat room that like we've become a part of these people's lives like nothing depend on us but they expect it. You know monday morning or sunday night. There tune the computer cast right. You know you know. Thursday morning boom. What do you do on the way to work on my morning job. Why movie yard. Peter cats do saturday. You know while. I'm shopping at the grocery store. I'm listening to buck on the news right. Can you know we've become a part of these people's lives and it's a you didn't quite make it to the press box on the side of the stadium but he made into media room there you go and you know i got the badges and by the way. I'm sure you still have every every badge they've ever given me i still have it so Yes yeah. I rub in people's faces i wear. I wear to the bar there. You go and i just walked behind the bar. Grab a beer. I just show my credential area. That's not true anyway. But we both ended our little stories crap elite. There you go all right. Well listen why. Don't we end the show as we always do. Read too if anyone would like to get in touch with you this week and submit an application. Don't you tell them how they can do that. House that that's the best way beth. Find me on twitter at rednecks oriented underscore. Da xt t talk buckner football. But if you have a take or you know honestly if you wanna throw your hat in the ring or have some ideas about where the show should go or you know just talk buccaneers strip off slide. Midem's an all talk about You know here's what we did with the you there as well since way dropped doing. I can't get any more missed. I've missed. I've missed it a toe. Anyway yeah hi twitter at rendell underscore the dax t no other way to really isn't holding me the end. And if you guys want to get in touch with me you'll find me at brent allen live please all of you guys go follow me over there to all you people. Follow me over there. Because i've only about five more weeks over here with peter cast Whatever i don't get right away. No twitter handle no. It's like the it's like the it's like the president like it's not until the inauguration as soon as that hand comes off the bible then it's like the switch flips and then it'll be over to you until the way that when whenever i dunno whenever the the season whenever the bucks are done and we do the podcast awards cuties. I told that's the first thing. I said i'm here until the beauties done deal right. You're getting a fully loaded. Ready to go for free created in touch with you. Find me at brennan. Live should joe. Is that the. Peter kass on twitter facebook and instagram. And you can email us to the pure cast g mail dot com if you if you do you have any thoughts on the show or or whatever as far as what can happen in the future if you don't want to slide into wren's dams email to us and rental read that eventually when he gets that password. I think you have that password. Pretty sure to. I'm pretty sure. It's the same one as the youtube password. And i know you have that one unless i've changed it anyway all of that. Just say listen all. We'll be back on friday with our bucking the new show we'll be talking about the tampa bay buccaneers and then we'll be back on sunday. It's a sunday game. This is this the saturday game in game. The bucks got moved to saturday. It's either this week or next week. I think is the lions game. The lions game got moved to saturday so this week is sunday. After the game dribbles zeros. We will be live at the peter. Cast live guys call in join. The video chat will talk about your reactions to the game. Because he's not done yet. Neither am i so until next time guys go bucks.