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NLU Podcast, Episode 260: Billy Andrade
"Beater right club today. Yeah that's better than most about. It is better than most battle. Welcome back to the no laying a podcast. This is the third champion's tour podcast in a row We knocked out all three of these out at the Charles Schwab Championship Shout ought to Stewart more from the PGA tour from the champion's tour helps us up with these guys knew exactly who we needed to talk to. And one of these guys was billy android I'm very familiar name for those of you. That fall golf for a long time. Very lengthy career playing golf took a few years off Kind of in his late forties did some media work and came back had a lot of success out on the PGA tour champions Gregg gotTa Talk to great perspective on a ton of different things in the game A lot of celebrity run-ins uninjured had so really great stories from from billy little different energy level than probably the goydos in Sutherland. One but a great mix of guys between them him Monty and those those other guys it was a great great week out there before we do launch it here for a limited time you can still get two dozen chrome soft or chrome soft x golf balls for just US seventy bucks plus free personalization at A. If you can't tell this is gonNa make for a great Christmas gift. That chrome soft combines tour proven distance in performance with exceptional feel driven by the new groundbreaking graphing infused dual soft fast core. So either you can either get these for yourself stock up for the coming coming year or go ahead and knock out the gift for the Gulf for on your list. This season callaway golf dot com for more information. Take advantage of it while it lasts. 'cause the New Year's GonNa turn here in this offer is going to go away so callaway golf dot com for more information. And here's our interview with Billy Android Ladies and gentlemen. Welcome back to the NOLING podcasts. Here here at the Charles Schwab Championship here on the PGA Tour Champions Solly here joined by Neil in Toronto and we have Billy android here. Thank you so much for joining us. How are you today? I'm doing great. How you guys? We're doing great. We get to talk golf with With talking to all of you guys is the best. You got all the stories and he doesn't have the filter you don't have the the the The first thing I want to ask what did the MLB sponsorship come from how does it. How did that start? So we'll go is enormous. Yes so back in the day of the tour championship. Aping chip having a pro-am which they don't really have one anymore. They always needed a few extra guys to play because Tiger win eight and VJ woodwind six six and you would need a few extra players. So I played for a few years in the Wednesday pro-am got paired with Bob Bowman who launched MLB DOT COM and and with my affiliation with EMC which is now Dell Technologies. They were doing some Cross promotion doing some work with an. It'll be dot com with EMC. Bob went out to the Pebble Beach Mutational as a invite from EMC which was the sponsor of the tournament and we had dinner and he just looked at me. And I said I was getting ready to turn fifty and said How much for your hat? And I threw him a number and he said all right done through your deal throw them a big enough. I guess I did. How did you feel exactly the moment he said yes? It was pretty cool. I was I was excited. Because you know coming out on the champions tour you don't have like my agent said to me. One of the manufacturers is giving you an offer to head to toe which is you know hat shoe ball glove clubs bag and it was thirty grand and it was like You know when I nine hundred eighty eight when I signed my I deal with titleist. It was it was a little more than that. Yeah so I said you know what Thanks but what I'm GonNa do is just just see if I can do this on my own so I got a hat deal got a bad deal. I got sponsored deal that come through like pro-am relationships mainly just You know your your your own brand right. You're you're working for yourself. You're you're an independent contractor and you want to do some some nice things so You know the the hat deal with came up that way and how did did you see the equipment money like dry up just over the years. Is that something the people can sense coming. Because that's that's basically the story from all the way up in the PGA tour of these days right I can't really answer to. The young guys is what they're getting but obviously that whole landscape changed. You know we weren't you know when I first started. Nobody was really getting paid a lot to use equipment and and then it then it changed. I'm remember Duval coming out of college. Getting a big title of Steel Davis. Love got a big deal there for with titles there for a long time. Now that's changing again. So it's going back the other way so few can get four or five different companies to To represent you and and you can add all that up then it adds up pretty pretty well to to have that on the side. Now go out and play and see how well you can do. I'm with companies. That are great sketches great and CVS health is Great. MLB's great worldwide technologies. Is My bag sponsor. Answer they're fantastic. That's a lot of free ads. So so about sketchers in Del Technologies has been you know it was EMC EMC and Dell EMC Dell. Technologies has been fantastic. I've been with them over over twenty five years now so it's it's It's pretty cool. Well I I. I tried to tap into Faxon's faxon's database of stories about you didn't give me give me too much. But he wanted me to ask so you have to ask him about the first time he met. Joe Patchy Oh yeah. Sure sure that that's a good one. That was back in in nineteen ninety. One I won back to back I had a great year. I got invited to the Shark Shootout Sherwood in it was pretty cool for me. It was my fourth year on tour and I got paired. Mike like my partner was was curtis. Strange who went to wake forest and you know I realized as a kid growing up and and to play with him was was you know you know the the quoque quoque dream come true kind of thing but We had a great week and on Sunday. My wife and I were at the hotel. We played early because West Coast we had pygmy done by three o'clock so we teed off early were done at one and we're taking a red is going to go back to my buddy's house and have spaghetti dinner and he was coming to the the hotel in the red light in the room on the on the phone because we had no cellphones back then. The Red Light was blinking so I had a message in the message was from from my friend. Hey I'm coming to pick you up which I knew and I'm bringing Joe Patchy with me. I'm like well. That's kind of odd. This when Goodfellas just hit the hit it in their need the need was pretty hot. Home loans coming out to say it was hairy. Yeah so smashed several role so I I gotta go the bathroom before relieving my packed up getting ready to leave the hotel and so I'm in the bathroom and my buddy shows up and says hey you you ready to go. No I'm I'm in the bathroom. I'll be right out and then the DORK. It's kicked in his Joe pesci standing there smoking a cigar. He kicked your door and said what let's go. We're going to get going when you look at like sitting on the John. One of the bathroom so was My intro to him and then I got in his car and we were driving over it to to my buddy's house and down the road and he said Hey. Do you mind if I that was when you had phones in the cars you mind if I call one of my buddies back in Jersey you. You won't believe I got you in the car with me. So we called his buddy talk to him. Jr talked to him for a while. And then I kind of looked at him and said can I call one of my friends just to say they won't believe I'm in the car with you. So that's kind of how it started. And then we became very close in played at Pebble Beach a few times and he's come to Rhode Island and played in our charity event. That facts and I had for years. So how does your buddy link up with passion. Well they're members at lakeside golf club over in Burbank. Okay near Universal Studios Louis. Oh it's a great course and so that any time of day and they were playing yeah they just pass us a member there and he he would always tell me she's out here so we'll love to play golf with them and eventually you know so That connection started with him bringing them out to Sherwood to watch the tournament just happen. They showed up a little late. Are you like facts in like. Do you know every every celebrity ever pretty much. What's his deal? He knows like absolutely everyone Brad. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Let's just through through golf. You know you get to meet all these folks and some guys you connect with and some guys you don't kingpin. Kingpin was Was a fairly brothers production and my cat. He's Ziggy grew up with fairly brothers. And he's he ziggys to caddy for Dr Fairly all the time. At Kirk Brag Country Club in Lincoln Rhode Island Island and So they all they're all from Cumberland so I get to meet. I knew bobby and Peter through through Ziggy and then Through Cam Nealy Ellie as well. 'CAUSE can I was with Cam after a la open when the bruins came in town. Play the Kings I was in the room and Peter's condo down in Santa Monica where CIBA's had to do is you know he had to do is to see if he was good enough. You have to do this role so for the makers so yes all of the kitchen. Yeah right here. Salt Shaker the whole bit I was I was part of the that that process of him. Getting that role with Bobby with Peter and Bobby for For Dumb and dumber and started there in our relationship started there and then they started hard planning our charity event. And you know my brother Jackson in six Fairly brothers movies. I've been in to my mother's been in one so it's And the cool thing about the fairly as they put all their friends in all their movies. So when you go to a Premier in Rhode Island every seen somebody in the crowd's going Joey. What's your brother's best role? I think is best role. He's playing checkers with Lenny Clarke in me myself and Irene and then the girl was breastfeeding the baby and they all had to go run over to the you know to look outside to see this little this this girls. You know todd breastfeeding the kid. And then Jim Carrey's character changes in in the supermarket and he comes back and rides the the car into the barber shop. I guess they were playing checkers in Side I think my brother Jackson. That was his best his best role there in that movie. And you were you. You were recently hanging out with Larry. David is that right. Yeah so Larry and I have a friend through the fairly They all live on. Martha's Vineyard in summer and I've been over. There played golf with them. I'm over there in. Larry so Larry. We've been friends for a long time in so I just call them today. I'm coming out love to get together. Maybe play around a golf like last Wednesday Wednesday. I wasn't in the program so maybe we can play on Wednesday then the fires hit and he was not going to be in town. I was flying in a Monday into to have dinner Monday night. I just was flying actually flying in and my phone blew up in. Larry emailed me and said that because of the fires there. He's home and we can do dinner so I just left the. I've got my courtesy car and drove up the Santa Monica dinner with them and ended up going to his house. I and we watch the end of the Knick game and then went out and had Sushi so I how to play with it so we took a is it only take a photo and we took a photo and I have all these. I saw my life coach in my sports psychologists. All these young kids get all they have their team gene. Sure so I figured it out. You know who better than to to be my life coach today at fifty five years old. Then Larry I I walk in the door and the first thing he says is you fluid shorts on and I'm like yeah. He goes really weird. Is it weird he goes. You didn't see the curb I did on that. I guess is curb your enthusiasm. He gets on an airplane in the guy sitting next to get hairy legs and it really spooked him out so I fled shorts. All Yeah me too. I don't really have here legs but I didn't think there was that big deal but Larry you thought it was. Larry David on Camera Salzgeber say they say that doing a bit with the shorts thing or is he liked dead serious. Now he's dead. He's dead serious what do you what do I can't believe that you were short on a plane. It's just gross. You can't do that you know. It's it's just inappropriate for him but I've stayed with them for daily open one year and he just got divorced so he was staying in the condo on Ocean Avenue in Santa Monica where all the famous people go after they get divorced so ah walked in one day and it was a lot of air quotes be thrown around saying that and I walked in one day and he was getting massages from this woman and it was he was choose. Choose hurting him and he was yelling and screaming the whole time and it was just hilarious and then we went. I took bill cost and I went to dinner with them. This is a very okay very funny story so I just emailed them and said Hey I'm coming in for the LA open after Pebble Beach Room at the end. And he says yeah you can stay But you have to leave on Thursday because I got other people coming in so I get there Sunday. He's got a girlfriend that came over and then watching the grammy's and I went to bed. I was tired. I just flew in from Pavel. Now it's Wednesday and we're going to dinner and I got Bill Haas in and actually the table next to us was does the Gretzky's with Dustin Johnson in the sixteen year old Paulina. That's when they met that night and they ended up hooking up and getting together right so that was the first time they met. How about that next door at the next table over? But anyway so we're walking in and it's the first Surroun- is Thursday and I got a check out and get a hotel room. Because Larry's got people coming in. And he had his buddy Nick Stevens with them who's he's an agent And did some mm stuff with science. The seinfeld stuff so as we're walking in I've asked Larry three times like you know. When do I need to leave? You know check out like I'm playing late. Do I check out in the morning or can I come back after one of these one of these other folks coming in and he said No. You're good I said okay. I asked him again he said No. No you're good. You're good so I don't know what that means. So we're walking into his restaurant. I say the Nick Nick. What's the deal? I've asked him three times. He says he's got people coming in. I don't know when I need to leave. And he says I'm good he goes. He said you're good. He goes lemons. You make you made the cut. I mean when he goes see. It's the Jewish thing no Jew would commit to someone for a whole week if they don't really know him that well okay so so you commit for half a week and then you know if I'm a pain in the pain in the ass and he can just say like people coming in he had nobody come in. Yeah that's that's really so so it's absolutely brilliant so if you if you're you know we have a summer place in Rhode Island and you know if we don't really know the folks coming in say. Hey well we it can only go like three or four days and then can we come up for a few days in the summers sure. Yeah no problem but it was really funny so I made the cut so I was there the whole week so I didn't get kicked out. Do you like going out to La. I love it I love L.. Do you feel like you're done with it after a week. You WanNa stay none onsite like all right good. I'm going to turn this off now. I'm good I'm good with it. Yeah no it's It's a good for a week. Good to see all the famous people I enjoy where I live. I enjoy Georgia and I enjoy Joe. Enjoy Rhode Island and it's always fun to go to La because you know you always playing good golf courses and it's a good vibe but it's it's it's nice to to go back home. What's your favorite course out there? You know the whole pebble beach area is fantastic. You Know Riviera now is just unbelievable. I mean when we played there back in the day from in eighty eight was my rookie year. The course was always in terrible shape. I acquainted till like a beautiful old whore that That that is just been run down and and and Rung Wet. You'll like like just she so tired and so it's she's just well well pastor peak well past her prime and that's what Rivera was just as gray golf course just awesome but was always in terrible shape especially when we got there in February anywhere and it was just. It was just so sad because at that time they had a couple of thousand members every Monday they would have two programs one in the morning one in the afternoon so the golf course never could rest never could get in good shape and that's totally changed now it's They only have three hundred members. I think you could play a US. Open there any any week of the year. It's like it's like Pebble Beach Pebble Beach. When I first on the tour in the late eighties it was owned by the Japanese? I think owned it and and until Peter Ueberroth and Arnold Palmer and Clint Eastwood in that group bought it now. They've restored it in Pebble Beach. You can go there any given day any given week and it's unbelievable shave it's fantastic and that's you know that's the way Riviera was it was just never in good shape and now it is and it's It's really cool to play. So those courses are great. I love going over to Bel Air and seeing some friends there. Mac Davis the old singer from what was that movie. North Dallas US forty. Maximum is a legend up there at At Bel Air. So when I come in China usually get around in with him and it's funny like like I feel like everything I think about L. A.. A lot of it is through. Curb your enthusiasm right where the owner of the golf course in curb your enthusiasm The Japanese guy. He's got the Swan and all that that's kind of how I think I don't know who owns Rivera now. But that's kind of how I think era or like you talking about the guy or getting divorced. I like I just think of Cheryl Michelle Wright who you're talking about right. It's it's when you're with the guy you're in you're in episode and that year that I stay stay with him They were filming and I played in the pro-am in the morning in the afternoon I went down it was near the near. LAX and He ended up. Put me in a in one of the episodes So I was a doctor and And in only two people called and said Hey I saw you curb your enthusiasm. Handsome one was John. Houston who has not call me since and that was fifteen years ago ten years ago and Jerry Haas my old college roommate golf coach at wake forced he called me to say to people that noticed that I was a doctor on care. Museums may visit privileged medical conversation. Yeah felt we're coming for for folks that don't watch. PGA Tour Champions week-to-week basis talk to us about what. What's the difference? The main difference is our core set up of course as you guys play I mean is it just not move forward. And and what's the difference in in your mind I think that will course set up on the PGA tour changed as I got older In the change was has like six six and six so like the first few days they would have six hard pens six medium pens and six Kinda easy pins and then towards the end of my career. It seemed seen like First round every pin was hard eighteen hard pens every single day every single week So the golf courses changed in that respect out here. You're setting up a course for fifty year old in your setting up a course for you may have a guy who's seventy that's playing in it so there's a couple of holes where if there's force carry you can't go all the way back where you can have some guys in the field that can't carry water or can't carry a hazard so they have to move tees up on a few also. I think the biggest difference is that on the PGA tour. You have two or three or four par fours that are over five hundred yards out here. We don't have that we were. We were a little little short in that. We'll have maybe one ball buster par four on each nine that You know that you have to pay attention to where on the regular tour seems seems like a lot of par fours or ball buster holes. What was your view of the champion's tour while you're let's say you're in your prime on the PGA tour right? What was your view? The champions tour and how is that view differ from actually having experienced it for several years. Now that's a great question because you know when you're on the PGA tour you're in that bubble. Didn't really watch much of it. I watched more of it when I was younger when I was not on the tour. In the champion's tour I started in remember going out to Newport Country Club had the golf digest pro-am and watching the Sam snead played their Arnold Palmer. was there all these. You know the guys that started the champion's tour I remember white. What going out and watching them play the once I got on the PGA tour? I didn't really you know kinda autumn. Mind you not really paying attention to it. You see a little bit of it but not much and and then coming out. I didn't know how it's going to be How the guys were going to accept me? Because it's been a long time since I seen a lot of these guys when I turned fifty and it was I was blown away on the Camaraderie. I was blown away about everybody embracing me and give me a hug saying you know. This is You're going to have a great time time out here. This is a great tour It's a lot more relaxed. It's fun having a good time. Oh Gosh it's it's ridiculous it's it's just you know I I why did TV. When I was forty six seven eight I quit and forty nine? I started practicing and get ready for fifty and my goal was mentally. That I'm gonNA enjoy this I played the tour for twenty. Five years You don't really realize how much of a grind it is. And how much pressure there is. I mean you get pressured to servive pressure to keep your card. Now you build a family now you have bills to pay all those things kind of go with it and you just Kinda you're riding this ride you know at the end of my career. I wasn't playing very good and and that was a good break from me. My wife was going back to seminary She she's now a Presbyterian minister. My kids were in middle school and high school so I was home more and I did this. TV thing And I enjoyed working for the golf channel out on the you know I was a roving on course reporter commentator and I enjoyed being out there and watching. I learned a lot because you know as a player you I think every player is making every pot and then you go out and you're following either woods or Mickelson or whoever the hottest players that week and you realize they don't make everything and They do chip. Well they all pretty close in You know they have the the stress level. Isn't that hard for the great players you know. They chip it close and they don't they don't have to make five footers every single to save shots and stuff and so. I learned a lot in that those three years but My goal was to come out on the champions tour and have fun on that care a whole lot and just enjoy the process. I have a bad day. It's no big deal and with that mindset. I've played great. I've really embraced this tour and I've enjoyed it. You know the guys. I always said the guys that were pricks on the regulatory less prickly on the on the champions You you not really but you know who they are and and their edges is not not like the PG tour in. I didn't realize how much pressure should the tour was until I got away from it to see How much pressure there is on surviving? You know if miss three or four cuts in a row so how how. How are you dealing with that? And then having a trying to get it back and get it back you always you always get that pressure in the frontal lobe pair of grind to survive in. If you did as long as I did it you understand where you understand what I'm talking about. What was the toughest part about get TV? I would say the hardest thing. Is that on the plane golf. which is the only thing I've known my whole life and that's my job? You know every day. Hey where you stand you know when you leave the course if you shot seventy five. You're seventy five shooter and I gotTa get better and I gotta go practice and work on my game to get better and you go new shoot sixty five you leave the golf course and you feel pretty good about yourself and you can't wait to get up the next day and build on that sixty five and try to win a golf tournament ornament when you do. TV A few friends that may call you and say hey you did a nice job today but you really don't you don't know where you stand so TV breeds insecurity. And I've always been very secure in my life and my in what I do and you like me great if you don't that's fine too but when you do tv you you you really don't have any clue You know I didn't get a whole lot of phone calls from the golf channel. Sandy did a really good job. I did have a couple of calls when I when I was the analysts analysts that I was slumping the chair to and I had a sit up. Sit Up more. That was the only tip I got so when I first started with the golf channel I was I that was a whole announcer and then I did. Some analysts work on on a few tournaments and then I was an encore commentator. So I did all the different roles that you can do and I did it with different producers so I had some golf channel people then I had Lance Barrow with CBS. And I am Tommy Roy with NBC and they all do it differently so so you have to try to figure out how you you can maneuver all this. And it takes time it takes time to be with a group that that's why. NBC is so good because of they've been doing it forever and CBS. Does it a different way. But they're very good at it too because they do forever and then when you could discuss that if uh-huh and then when you then when you see Fox and I started off doing the the. US Open when they when they got that contract. They were terrible awful because they've never done it before not with the crew. Now those same people so they've gotten better over the years but That was the hardest part I think is just No one went to talk when to not talk. Tuck winter take it to commercial those things that you just did it on the fly. There was nobody. You didn't go to class to figure out how to do this. You just did it and if you if you were good at it then Then I guess at the end of the year they they resigned. You tell me Roy you're the whole time at times. Yes and at times Lansbury. Who is in your ear here too But you you need that you need. You need direction especially being an encores commentator. You'd I don't have. I'm not looking at a video screen. So you have to to Kinda in your brain figure out. Okay how you do it now. Tommy Roy doesn't do tape shots were. CBS Does it tape shot. So I can already see you. Hit hit your Puttin A- and you missed it low or you left at short and I could say this putz really slow. I just saw him. You know so so on course commentator would. CBS In with the Golf Golf Channel. You do taped shots. And they'll come to you and they'll say what kind of parts he got here and then you've already seen it where time Roy. NBC Doesn't do that they don't do tape. Shut the tape shots are done by the guys up in up in that. Have that whole so. In that respect it was easier for me being out there because then I could just go up to the next to the next hole. I didn't have to wait and kind of recreate this Putt and you see it in your ear in your ear. They'll say like a tape shot. Then he's over he's over at. He's getting ready to put it now. You're talking while while these doing so and you're not looking at it. That's a that's crazy that's trip. What was it like to kind of transitioning into your mid forties like? The state of your game was a swallowing pride feeling of going into media. What did you think did you think you? We're done with golf when you made that transition counting down to champion's tour what's that time period between forty five and forty nine and three hundred sixty four days like yeah. It was At first it was it was a relief to okay. I'm going to do something different. I'm gonNA try something different. I'm going to learn a new craft. That was Kinda cool It was a relief if mentally to know that. Okay I'm not You know I'm not going to have to grind to survive on the PGA tour given that part up so it was kind of a relief. Relief there and then Just just learning this new three I I did it for three years My First Year I did twelve tournaments the second year I did nine tournaments in the third third year. I did eight tournaments and Jack Graham that hired me said. You're the only you're the only person I've ever hired. That wants less tournaments than more tournaments Most guys want to keep doing it and doing more and get into it now as I knew what I was GONNA do. I just needed a break from the game. I think that the taken that break. I think that's helped me tremendously on the champions tour because I I didn't WANNA come. I didn't WanNa do that transition from the regulatory of the champion's tour playing Lousy Golf. Because then you can't turn that switch on and go Kay I'm going to start playing great again so I think taken that break really mentally really helped me in in in when I came out at fifty hours I was fired up and I was ready to go in and played well right away. What chain your game between the time when you were done with the PGA tour and starting the champion's hippyish story couldn't be easier? Setups couldn't have changed. No no I think. I think it's just you know it's just pressure. You know playing lousy and plane lane lousy again and then just going home and your kids are going to miss the cut again. It's it's tough you know it's it's it's just a grind and then into come out at fifty and start playing well it's It's like a new lease on life. So it's it's it's it's clean. Yeah it's it's not it's not there it's not there while you're doing TV did you have. Did you feel like God. Just WanNa play right now like you have that urge. Are you so focused on the analysis and stuff. I feel like it'd be hard being a competitor to then switch over to behind the camera wanting to hit the shot like wanting to be back in the in the action the other other times that I would say sure but Nine knew that it was that I knew my role that I wasn't playing well in in this. This'll to be a good a good break for me. I enjoyed the break I still played a little bit Played a couple of tournaments year Just to wet you Have that sensation But I didn't play that well and then when I turned forty nine I did get in a few tournaments and You know the Sanderson Farms was opposite the British open and went down there and I was even par through twenty seven holes and finished I think eighteen under and finished fifth. I remember Woody Austin one so that that's when the light went off like okay I I still think I got some some game here because this is pretty cool to do that. And had my my son Came Academy for me. He was nice cool so that was really cool to going back to let's like into your PGA tour career. What was what was your? I guess coming out into the into the tour kind of experience like when you go out there first time around there. Who are the guys you looked up to? who were the guys became some of your early friends? And what was your early experience like on the tour so Yeah I played a few tournaments amador on the PGA tour. The Western open invited me because the year before Scott verplank one as an amateur so in eighteen eighty seven played there. I played the masters as an amateur so I played the Bank of Boston which it pleasant valley is named her so I felt like I was good enough to you know. I wasn't in total awe but when I first came out my first year I struggled finished. I think thirty fourth on the money list. I didn't keep my card hard. Bhai think nine thousand dollars had to go back to q school. And then the summer of eighty nine I played with Fred couples and policing and the last group group at West Chester and I beat them both and finish fifth. And that's when my career took off the that's so it took a year and a half a play in the tour. Where am I good enough? I think I am good enough. But I haven't results haven't haven't really showed yet. And then once I finished fifth in Westchester my career took off and and who helped me Br Facts was a huge help out of the gate. You know he made. Sure I had great practice rounds You know if it was Tom Kite my rookie year. I went up to Tom Watson and and introduced myself at The first tournament and said Hey I'm new guy out here. Let's play a practice round with the next week. Phoenix eight on ball in the air at eight thirty thirty So I played a lot of practice rounds with Watson and Andy North in doing that took the all away edge off of. Yeah like so. So then you starting to play practice rounds with all these great players The one the one thing that just blew me away was was how short everybody was like. I thought Ben Crenshaw was six to one watching. TV and then you meet him and he's like shorter than me So everybody was a little shorter than All the all the all the studies. It's that that I watched as a kid growing up but When I first came out it was? It was making sure that I played great practice rounds with great players so factually helped me there. Jay Haas was as a Muslim was a huge help for me being a wake forest guy and Taking care of me just making sure I was. I remember him saying to me that You know we're playing for at this time. This was nineteen eighty eight. You Plan for a lot of money out here and you know if it's first class versus coach on a long flight you know and it's three hundred dollars. There's more you know you you're in the major leagues you treat yourself like you're a major leaguer not Nana minor leaguer and a hotel that's close to the course is more are expensive than hotel. That's forty minutes away. Stay at the hotel close to the chorus interesting and and treat yourself as you know. You're you're in the big leagues and And that really helps so there was an Peter Jacobsen was another guy that just I remember playing the Western open income in shot. Seventy seven. Whatever and in Peter Walk by and said how'd you play He? Billy what's up. Hey Hey Peter What's wrong. You look down. I said well I just shot seventy seven he goes. It's over her rounds over man. There's nothing you can do about now. Just get ready for tomorrow and like those little things from guys that I respected and look up looked up to or things that I I to this day. I still remember that. Were you know big keys for me in in in my success early on on that money front you were. We just discussing their did it. I mean seeing what happened in golf basically in the late late nineties and into the early two thousands how much the money exploded going back to the earliest ninety s when the peak and prime of your career. Did it feel like a ton of money. Even at that time even with what's to come down the pipe. Oh Yeah No I. In in ninety one I want two weeks in a row and I won one hundred and eighty. They were million dollar tournaments. And I just remember Tom Kite. Saying you're you're so lucky that that you came came up when you came up because our plan for million dollar tournaments you know and you get one hundred eighty thousand for the win when he came up. If you WANNA tournament it was thirty grand or forty the grant to win so it's He just said you. You're just you're just one lucky son of a gun and then I would. I would say the I said the same thing that Justin Leonard. He came out right at the right time. He came out in ninety six ninety seven right when the right when the person's just doubled and so I told him he was lucky son of a gun because what was he came out at that right time. Yeah what's what could without while that's happening. What are you guys saying you joe like can you believe all this month because it was everybody kind of freaking out during that time period of inflation inflation? I don't remember that I just you know 'cause you're in it but I do remember you know thinking that I just want three hundred sixty thousand dollars in two weeks On the tour I mean. How cool is this in You know I I never played for the Mo- I it's not the money thing for me. I played because I love the competition. I Love I'm doing what I was doing. And it just so happened that just started going higher and higher and higher and it's it's amazing what What these guys are playing for today and I think is fantastic with when you won your your second event in a row? They're like you'd never won before were you. Were you running on fumes at the beginning that second week and and Kinda it came in with low expectations like hey everything's gravy now after one kemper. I want I win camper then I go to. I go to would Mont Golf Club on the day after after and Qualified for the US Open. And then I go to Westchester and I bump into Jay Haas before the first or sixty eight in the first round he goes. How'd you play and I went? I shot three-under. I don't know how the Heck I did it. I'm exhausted. I haven't slept. Whatever he goes? Well you know the best the best time to win your second tournaments after your first one and he won. When I was in college he won back to back weeks On the tour this early early eighties so I remembered that because I was in school and I was roommates with with his brother. So as I can't you know what time vendor and then so it was it was it was. It was some crazy number. Twenty one under the Kemper broke the record slough and I shot that. beat him in a play-off off shot ten under at Would Mont to be the low medalist for that and then I go I go the next day it was an outing. I had to do at quaker acreage. I shot sixty five and then I go to Westchester and I shoot eleven under and then I go to the. US Open First Round I think I was five hundred after ten leading the tournament. And then we had hazeltine storms came in people Get hit by lightning and stuff and It was crazy crazy day and I I'd that's when I hit the wall hit the water over that I was going to say any type in billy android on Youtube. The first result that comes up is billy I android disaster. US Open. Yeah and it's the he's not right. Yeah hit hit my third shot. I think over the green in between these routes of this tree and I just I couldn't get it there. I just started within it. I think but Yeah I had a pretty big meltdown there but I didn't care you need to fix the Google searches. This is what What I was getting at though going back to what you said earlier about playing practice rounds with like Watson and some of these older guys? What's is it? Just the factor going away or are they the plane of practice route a specific way. That really helped you as a young guy like a sponge. Yeah some Spungen and I'm just trying to learn and and if you're playing with the greats of the game it doesn't matter what sport you play in a what you're doing if you're hanging out with with the greats and you're hanging out with the savant the best of the best. I I just think as a sponge you just GonNa get better by Osmosis is just going to happen. And that's what happened to me. I just I I learned observed and that's what I would tell any kid today. You know kids that come out of college today. And they play practice rounds with their buddies that they went to college with You're not gonNA get better you you'll be okay but I think you need to play with great players so What happened with Watson is I played four or five practice rounds with them? And then I got paired with the final-round the Honda Classic and and that was my rookie year. It's just two months later and there was no all playing with them. You know I didn't I already. I know didn't have There wasn't Nur there was nerves but not nerves because I up because him not because he's not GonNa Change my attitude And I think that that's That's it you just when you're around greatness and you ask questions and you watch and you observe and see how they do their business And then and you pick what what you WANNA take out of that in little things. That Watson did that made me think. Okay I need to do this more chip more. Maybe over here work on this part of my game. Are you playing a match you you like to some of the guys seemed like they like to gamble when they play. Yeah no there was. No there was no gambling going on with in those days as it was just Just me just learn how to how to do how to go about how they you know. Hey this is one of the greatest players of all time. I'm just I'm just a sponge watching him. He's doing something right and I know you're really really good golf. I mean Your Age Aga Rolex player year your all American College. You've kind of checked all the boxes at every step along the way. When did it Kinda dawn on you like well probably sixteen? I played the Insurance Youth Classic. which which was a very very big national Gina Tournament and it was at Yale University at a place where I played a few tournaments in one so I I liked the course love the place? Yes and Tracy Phillips was the number one junior goll from the world at that time and he had a two-shot lead going the last round. I was paired with him in the last group. I beat mm-hmm shot sixty eight and one and I went from a nobody from Rhode Island to Gulf digested a ranking. At the end of the year they had their annual Golf Digest. And you would get you look in there and you would have the top amador's top ten top ten junior boys top ten junior girls and I went to fifth from winning that one tournament and then the next year I won the Insurance Youth Classic Again I won by. I think nine or ten shots that yell again. No it was August Country Club in Augusta Georgia and then two weeks later I I won the PGA Junior. So I became the number one junior golf from the country golf digest so I think that was the start of. I'm pretty good. I think I can get a college scholarship and they beaten down your door. I I was the ultimate free agent Because everybody knew I was I was leaving Rhode Island so it was very overwhelming. And they want to go to Brown. Well Al Yeah. How about yeah? Day Patterson was the coach Yale University at the time he pulled me aside and said you're too good for for New England. You gotta go. Oh south of this is your dream you know so wake forest was one of the one of the one of the schools that came calling and Arnold Palmer and Arnold Palmer. Scholarship was huge and Jerry. Haas was there that wake at the time he was a year old and the main he so you can be my roommate and everything kind of fit right in. It was a small all school I was. I was from a small state and went to a small prep school. So just Went Down for a visit and he was like yeah. I can definitely go to this place and the other schools I was looking at. We're all bigger schools. You Know Texas Oklahoma State and these other big schools ever great golf programs. They were huge. And I think that if I did go to a bigger your school I don. I don't know if I'd be here today. I probably would have floundered and in got distracted where a wake forest Classroom size was small. Everybody knows was everybody and you can't hide And I think that that was a great fit for me. Did you have a relationship at all with Mr Palmer great relationship. Oh Yeah it was That that happened immediately in colleges because the workforce connection or when did that start well he came to wake forest. The Schwab Cup at that time was called Vantage Championship. And it was at Tanglewood outside of Winston Salem and he came by the The new Arnold Palmer dohrn just opened up to check it out and then meet the team and then meet his new guy which was me and he pulled me aside and You I just wanted to shook my hand and just say that You know this is a great opportunity for you and all that so it started there and then my rookie. You're on the tour. You know immediately got an exemption at bay hill and I got. I played twenty twenty-five Bay hills in a row and a couple of times especially late in my career when I needed another exemption I always got one and then he came up to Rhode Island played in our CVS health charity classic. A few times with me. We used to have a standard standard game At Bay Hill on Tuesday and go play the back nine. Just the two of us. We did that for years and so we had. I had a great relationship ship with him and like a lot of players have have had or had So it was it was tremendous. Yeah I don't know how that guy had time for all the things he did but can you saw this on the scratch video. You did a couple years ago can you tell. The story of Of the accidental phone calls may have been directed towards Mr Palmer. Yeah it it was It got really comical there for awhile. I'm not tech savvy in Back in those days the phones you know everyone had a blackberry. Blackberry was the the big phone and Even today if I go to my my contacts Eight P. is the first one in my contact list so for some reason I kept bought. Dial in like the first person in the contact list which was him and it you know I could. I could hear him. You Know Billy Billy Goddamn it did it did it again. You did it again. One time I was hanging up a jacket and I had. I did a thing up in Boston. And and I was hanging a jacket up in the closet at the hotel and I heard his voice in the closet. God damnit billy you did it again so I did it for about a year and didn't know how to control it so it took a life of its own. Yeah and he He I think he enjoyed it after a while because he brought up to a few a few publications who were your. I guess that may have been the answer. The question right there but guys that you really looked up to or guys that you were most starstruck by when you came out on the tour. Jack Nicklaus His his son was at Carolina. When I was awake so I was? I've been around the Nicholas's and I stayed at their house During winter break in the middle of my college career so Coming out Payne Stewart was whipping. Boy He just constantly just gave me crap APP all the time. About what like like he treated me like we were on. You know we were on a You know we're on the same team and I was the rookie you know. He was the veteran. And like I had you just constantly just busting my chops you know you gotta get better you know. I was looking at the moneyless. One time time he was behind me. He was number one on the money list. That was one hundred thirtieth on the money list. He's a rookie rookie all the time. The ten year he just it was forced for years of hell with pain But I think the one that made me the most nervous was was ray floyd he just Had that swagger and had that walk and had those is and you know you just didn't know where you stood with with ray so he was a little the very intimidating. I would say everything I've ever heard like ray floyd sounds like the biggest just sounds like a minute. Yeah he and he used it. I mean and he's still. I think has got the record for winning. He won both on the regular tour in the champion's tour in the same year at at age. Fifty or fifty one which one Durrell anyone I guess any turn then he played in something. US senior open and one that or something like that so no no. No other players ever done that. Which is pretty pretty amazing and We've gotten me good friends now. Like in his older older older years. We always seem at the masters. Astor's I do stuff with. At and T. and he's big. At and T. Guy. And I interviewed him and stuff like that and now we have fun with it but When he was a player he was he was all business and he was all school and you had a respect? Them fee came in the fitness van. You know you you get your ass off to fitness table. uh-huh gets on the table and you ever seen anybody cross him One time there was a little altered not an altercation was just a you know he. He Ian George Burns went at it in the fitness fan and I was like in the corner sitting there going. Oh Jeez I have no idea but it was like they were going at it pretty good. That was my rookie year. Yeah it was crazy. I'm curious what on the on the champions tour circuit. It can be kind of a maybe. It's not maybe for you guys. It's easy to see kind of difficult people to prognosticate. Who's going to succeed out here? And who doesn't and for some guys your game just goes into your fifty s or maybe it's late forties and it doesn't come back. Is there anything you can kinda shine a light on for. You know what goes when it goes for a lot of people as a common trend you see and are you able to see guys that are coming out and be like oh I think. He thinks he's going GonNa be successful here but he doesn't know how hard it's going to be. Yeah I think You know you you have to work at it. I think you have to be in pretty good shape. I think the guys that have kept themselves elves in good shape that come out on the champions tour. We're going to continue to play. Well it's the ones that are broken down. That have had a lot of injuries or gain a a lot of weight or just. Don't have the physically. They can't they can't do it. We can and we got those guys might have problems. The other the other issues too is. Yes you you might have been a hall of Famer on you might be in the hall of fame and then you come out here and Paul goydos beaten. Yeah Billy the Andrew Beaton you. Mike Allow Nubia Guys that you beat that you've crushed your whole career in. How do you handle that? How do you handle that mentally? And I. You think you're saying this with a smile interface. Thank you also got a couple of guys. I just you know an rookie but no it's true. I just think that some guys have you know it's a different game again. Now you have to prove yourself again even though you're a hall of Famer or maybe going going to become a hall of Famer of what of your body of work you did on the regulatory when you come out on the champions tour you gotta you gotTa have some edge you have to you have to. You have have to continue to perform if you don't how do you handle that. I mean how do you handle. Nobody wants to finish thirtieth or fortieth in. You know why you know when I came out nick price was was on his way down in for Nick who had who had a nice career on on the champions tour he hurt himself I think he had some shoulder. Injury made me an elbow problem or whatever and he hit the wall and I you know he was just telling me I can't do this anymore. And he he basically retired Though he's what fit in late fifties maybe fifty nine sixty And still plays very well. Good a good Golfer. Unbelievable career you know. Just couldn't do it physically so you have that physical thing and then you have some guys that just how do you deal with the fact that you know a guy that you'd beat mm left and right and now all of a sudden he. He's he's winning. You're not I mean how do you deal with that. So there's a little bit of that too do you think In the coming years most guys are going to come out and play champion store. Well we hope so. We're GONNA see next year Phil. Mickelson turns fifty the US Senior Open. Newport Country Club Newport Rhode Island being a Rhode Islander. I'd love to see Phil you know in his first week. turned fifty play in that tournament. that would be awesome so it feels listening. You Know Phil once you come up to Rhode Island. We'll take good care of you and play in the senior open. But you know we've had our star and he's been unbelievable for a decade over. A decade is is Bernhard Langer. And he's been he's been kind of our Our goto but we need the new GO-TO WHO's going to be the new person that's going to take over Freddy when he comes out. It's a different game It's a it's a different feel. It's like when Tigar I came out and when Tiger player determined tiger doesn't play tournament. They're two different kinds of tournaments The excitement the energy level In for us to have that to to to see Davis Start and play a little bit. I don't know I just read what he's now he's GonNa do TV. I don't I don't know how much golf is GonNa play but having having I'm an R.. Stars out here is huge. Freddie's not playing this week In the Charles Schwab Cup at that hurts us. You Know Steve. stricker is not here. That hurts us. So we we need those guys to to play and Only time will tell to see how many of these big guys WanNa play in. Come out here and want to continue to compete. I think because Phil is a junkyard dog and he loves the competition and he loves to perform can see Phil Plan A pretty good diet on the on the champions tour after he finishes up plan the regulatory for him. It might be fifty five before he decides to maybe play full-time fulltime out here. But so it comes down to the competition and not not necessarily you know. Hey I'm comfortable. I made forty million dollars in my career. Like it's it's just the competition petition. Yeah it's it's of course it's has nothing to do with money can't be half in half out on the t you can't. It's really hard I would imagine to do. Like I'm GONNA to play like ten events this year on the champions tour because like you said guys are grinding. It's not you're not. This is not a vacation. You're not coasting. Well you get to play golf right and you think about the scores. These guys that were all shooting out here is is pretty amazing. So you can't just come out here. I think that if you turn on that turn the light on you're going to go out and shoot you know twenty I five hundred win It just doesn't happen that way but you you get You get these guys that that that just play some great golf so it's It'll be interesting to see I. I hope I hope all the guys that turned fifty. I Know Ernie els exists is excited about coming out and playing gym furious very excited about coming out unplanned. He told me he's still gonNA plan the regulatory this coming year because he's close to the top fifty and he wants to play the masters one more time but he's You know these guys talking about wanting to play the champions tour so if those guys come out then you know then we're in good shape to to to have You know somebody like that. Be The next burn hard and that will carry our tour for the next ten years. Do you ever see the age limit. Dropping for the champion's tour it's been talked about but I I just don't see it. I just I just think that Fifty is a good number I do know that forty five to fifty is no-man's-land for a lot of guys and they have to wait to do it but when you see all of us that it waited now all of a sudden we put it down. A forty-five is economic our tour better. I don't know I don't know maybe maybe yes maybe now I can't answer that all right Morgan. The most we gotta let you go. We really appreciate the appreciate the our loved against the time. Best luck this awesome. Do you have any questions for us. I in huge fans you guys you have no idea. You're up there with Larry David. That's flattering. There is one thing I need to fill in here. You probably don't get this a lot but when I was maybe nine or ten years old my favorite player on Earth because walking off the sixth green at Northfield village. You hand me a glove when I was a kid and my mom took that glove back to Murphy village and had you told told you the story had you sign it and she sent me that picture today. which is the glove that we've kept awesome so a little small interactions over the years so my my stick was Golf balls and gloves I would give to kids. You know all the time. When I was started started I always would get an extra dozen balls from title list so I could do that so I did a commercial with Wesley Brian did did. He's a sketchers kid so we we did this commercial with cooter and I know I've seen it a hundred billion right right so we did this whole day. Yeah shoot and you know when it was over since. Hey won't tell you you flip me a ball to masters you know and I was nine years old crazy. Soul walk at the clinic for Tron High. Yeah yeah sure. Yeah I remember that over Cherokee the unit that I think chip. Beck's kids was on that day. Awesome boys thank. You Appreciate Club Beater Right the club. Today that's better than most about it is is better than most.
Hour 2: NCAA v. California
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Ok's athletes bill NCWA calls harmful the NCW on Wednesday said legislation in California aimed at giving college athletes a chance to earn money while in school known as the fair pay to play act is harmful and unconstitutional and would quote up in the balance end quote of National Competition in College sports the Organization's Board of Governors in the letter Wednesday to California Governor Gavin newsom asking that the state not pass the bill. California's State Senate voted Wednesday for those of you. I don't know the past the fear pay to play act with a tally of thirty nine zero. That's the Senate vote in California. The California State Assembly approved a bill by by a seventy three to zero vote earlier this week. The bill now moves to newsome who have thirty days to decide whether he will sign it into law. Here's my belief thirty nine senators out of thirty nine thirty nine a state senators out of our thirty nine voted in favor the fair pay to play act terms of the state assembly seventy three out of seventy three voter food who the hell is the governor to say now you you got elected officials from every crevice of the state of California every single one of them seventy three plus thirty nine which equals is one hundred twelve all of them voted to pass this fear pay to play act right and put it into law. The bill is aimed giving college athletes a chance to earn money while in school now understand what the NCW saying it will cause an up it would up end the balance. Wa because because when you talk about athletes being able to make money off of their like this in names able to receive marketing deals except endorsement deals that kind of thing because that's what they're talking. What about here right what you're saying. Is that somebody at do is. GonNa give more than somebody drexel what you're saying. There's somebody at the the University of North Carolina in Kentucky on John John Calipari or something like that or somebody. Villanova is going to get paid all going to be compensated in a fashion that somebody at Mount Saint. Mary are right or Lee. Uh or someplace like that ain't going to get paid. Here's my response. All of that will come to America. Put Me what the Hell is this. I really don't understand it. Thank God for this and forget whether I supported it or not because I why do go forget all of that for a second. This is the problem that I have with the ANC AA and most of you damn people in Meson states of America is the problem by the way at the interpreting Stephen Getting a little bit of political clinical and what a debit toby so be it out had enough of this. I Love America. I I believe the greatest country to what just came for France beautiful over there by the way very very beautiful. I want to say that very beautiful over France. I'M GONNA hit Italy KNACKS WCHS hit England next put up from America you understand I'm a black man in America. Nobody is suffering more than us. You can make this stuff up. All your want to those. Are you critics. WanNa come at US talking about affirmative action. I got news for you. Nobody has benefited more from affirmative action the white woman that's right. I said member money. Josie knows brothers brilliant. No no no what are these people that doesn't believe in gender equity or anything like that to the victims go to spoils. If you've got it like that you could get it. God bless you. God bless you. This is America. I don't really understand this so let me get this straight is due do but to God Bomani and Pablo playing at Drexel and I'm brothers go at five hundred hundred every day Kansas and C. Double A. Tournament but this brothers compete for National Championships while playing under my Cesky. He's supposed to be equal to them. mm-hmm in America in America would walk around and see. There's the problem. Tell Ya at the right man Dan. I Ain't getting into socialism fascism democracy what I'm GonNa tell you this much and I don't mean it it an incendiary way when I say they do this because there are negatives about capitalism no doubt but I'm GonNa tell you something. I'M GONNA capitalist. Do I think that everybody it deserves equal stuff equally hell no hell no. I don't believe that I believe those also better deserves more than those who by the way my position has consisted remember when this title nine they came down and we started talking about female sports out. There folks was talking about equal pay. No I'm not down with that. I think so women deserve. I think Serena Williams Cocoa Golf Naomi or a sock in they deserve more money than most of the men but dammit if they Federa Brian Dal and joke bitch and they don't have that bosseaux appeal even though we know Serena does hey. That's the way it goes. You got women all over the place talking about listen female sports you remember when a coach but Notre Dame Macara regard her name is and she went off about women being putting on this play that tape over and over and over again because she was one thousand percent correct women more positions of power and more positions of influence no question about but when it comes to the Dallas if you ain't generate revenue damage you deserve it period now. We ain't talking women's tennis because we know what they can generate but the WNBA makes less than NBA players for reason all these women and world out here why why do they are going to the WNBA Games. Why don't you go. You got you got you got money. You Got Cachet. You Got Influence. How come you ain't going to the game you you've got the freedom to go out there as support the Wnba what do those turnstiles packed nineteen thousand people inside Madison Square Garden for the liberty inside the staple centers for the sparks inside the Verizon Center nation's capital for the mystics. I'd go get too much of the weeds. WNBA because all it names just real which I don't know all the names because I don't watch the WNBA like Dad. I watched someone who watch all of them like that. My point is these females plan in the world of sports there are there are plenty of women out here in this world who are successful accessible who are making money who who go to games who love sports but you're. WNBA make it as much as the NBA because is y'all ain't going to their games supporting their product the way you support the NBA product so why did you say this stuff about Equality Know Ladies and gentlemen. It's equal opportunity. That's way quality comes into play away opportunity but whoever you support you support and if somebody generates more support that somebody else their debit the people that generate great the most support to get the most money that's capitalism. You really really think that we liked sitting here in America and our police officers are law enforcement officials who put their lives on the line everyday for us. You think we don't deserve money. How about a firefighters. How about doctors you think we'd better nurse teachers serves. You think we don't know they deserve every penny they can get ladies gentlemen. They don't generate ray revenue. The Way sports does the way people don't Wall Street might the way to see over fortune five hundred company my that's why the money that's why there's a discrepancy money. Johnny go to those who generated they set up there and even talked about me back. I remember I was in the news. People speculate how much money I was making how much money I would make. You don't know you'll you'll never know for me. Let me tell you something. Do I believe that I deserve to be the lowest pay Jonathan Shannon. Look at me when I'm talking to. Y'All do I believe that I should be the lowest paid or some mid range pay dude AH ESPN or in the world sports media. Oh Hell no hell no now the work that I do that was put in it. The writings that I generate the revenue that comes with it you damn right. I deserve to be paid. I apologize for nobody. This is America capitalist. I'll be damned if I'M GONNA apologize for that. The State of California stepped up on this the NCWA as acting. I'm not accuse them of being this way but in this particular case that acting like they're anti-capitalist just what the hell you mean equality you eight equal the big five conferences. They get more money than other conferences. You had no problem with that problem. Nick Sabin get more money this coach at Villanova. I guarantee you next became more money than cut clip at Duke. Davos Sweetie signs a ninety any plus billion dollar contract which he deserves. I hear nobody complaining about that. We know how much money Mike Success he's making. I assume Oh you is top notch complain about that but it comes to these kids. Oh now we it unfair. Will you the go she ate show deals with CBS but he NC Double A. Tournament. I don't hear you sitting there complaining about that but with the kids are we gotta be fair. You WanNA teach kid in real life lessons. You remind them that this is America and to the victors go spoils you wanNA piece of this PA aw produce you want more get it done. Hey this is the revenue that we generated last sheen. You want more generate more entrace generate more revenue. If you teach teach them about and maybe you wouldn't have so much trouble. We don't WanNa talk about that. Doing you will walk ground want hide. That reality happened on. This ship ankle happened on this show. I'm not saying that money. Is Everything obviously principled positions. Come with everything we do in life somehow some way you gotta make choices every day but I'll be damned. If I show up to work every day out of the goodness and kindness Mahar trying gotta get paid apologizes after no party. I'll put the work I'll make it happen. I'll do what I can to bring value and equity to this to this monstrous behemoth notice. ESPN and Walt Disney. I'll do all of that. I have my hands out to get paid to. It ain't for free if that's the real world while we acted like any different with these these kids everybody don't get to be sane be good enough in Basketball Duke and Kentucky and Kansas and so in North Carolina and so on and so forth they come talk to me really good enough to be Alabama Clemson Georgia and football boy even Lsu Lsu. Come talk to me if you tag good. That's why you ain't getting compensated the way somebody else might be compensated. It'd be real this baby and every damn body acting like we're baby and went in fact what we're trying to do who is keep all the money for our own coffers. Instead of spreading the wealth around gluttony is one of the seven since very few people are better at it than NCWA finally record up to you now. You have to do a little bit more sharing. Get the hell over. It does go. This is market dollar endorsement deals and stuff like that be happy. California has unlocked in making sure their schools in their state need to compensate state the players the student athletes directly and oh by the way when I say compensation of talking about football and basketball if you're playing volleyball volleyball three happy which damn scholarship. It's not a revenue generator if wrestling be happy with the Damn Scholarship. It's it's not a revenue generator softball. I'm talking about shoo jail stopping some some of you to be happy with a damn scholarship some of you. It should be enough. That's capitalism. That's America and by the way I have no problem as long so as you get what you earn and you get what you deserve. I got no problem with everyone. Does it deserve to be treated. The same does who are elite should be compensated in a better fashion than those who are not Perry it. Well let me start that I shouldn't say period. 'cause you screw you could act like before like an idiot like some people who remain nameless and get yourself so much trouble people that your greatness eight worth it that is possible but that's the exception not the rule and at eight say. ESPN eight seven to nine three seven seven six you listen live to Stephen a Smith show. ESPN RADIO ESPN news. Let's go to Gary. You Love Stephen. It was up Gary Gary go ahead. You're on the air. Go ahead. I got some questions I was calling to ask you How do you think the connection between Tom Brady. Antonio Brown's GONNA be. I think he's going to be elite as long as Antonio on the field long enough to make that happen and do you see the Patriots going back to the Super Bowl. I don't see anybody beating the Patriots. If Antonio Brown is healthy along with Josh Gordon and Tom Radius healthy torn on the football I do not see anybody beating the Patriots under those conditions now worried about the Kansas City chiefs not as not even the slightest because their defense stinks offensively offensively. They're a juggernaut but their defense stinks. They can't get stopped when it really really count data don't believe in Kansas City's defense because of their defense okay. Thank you thank you. Let's go to Mike you lava Stephen. What's up Mike can I just wanted to talk to you about the NC double a. and like you can talk talked about it seems to me over the years that they have a lot of similarities to the mafia they just basically come in and take their car and move on there you can make a legitimate argument by considering a relationship that they have because when television networks and what have you negotiate their own deals power conferences and the NCWA comes comes in during the NC Double A. Tournament they get their money. Lord knows what the BCS what kind of share they get. That's a legitimate point. The I can't deny that it just seems like when they originally formed. It was basically just run. The collegiate tournaments and they keep expanding expanding expanding ending in the biggest thing is that they're controlled by a bunch of mom to have no accountability all their money comes from taxpayers primarily from state run university yeah. It's kind of interesting that we don't have any kind of control over them in you. If you look at their finances it's during the you know you look at it that way. You know the way that I look at it the crime and at all that you know you can understand why state legislators state legislators and beyond don't want to open up Pandora's box and because they don't WanNa get to overly evolve with some of this stuff because it can really be painstaking and tedious and what have you the real problem and all of this is that collegiate athletes to not have have representation. They don't have a players student Athletes Association. That's the problem if if they had representation most of these problems will go away they don't have it and that's where the problem lies and that to me is where government intervention should take place. God the government should mandate that these youths these student athletes have some form of representation tation rather than being placed at the mercy of the NC double a. that to me is what I think is the right thing to do. I agree with you on that point in one last thing I'd like to say I I grew up in Kalamazoo Michigan so I am a long time. Lions Fan Dan obviously but I also lived in Milwaukee and I hate to admit it but Aaron Rodgers is the man he has he has. He's a bad man and nobody in Detroit has been instead of Barry Sanders. I'm glad you know that have a nice day. Take care of yourself. We'll talk soon it at eight say. ESPN it's inundate seven to nine three seven seven six. You're listening to the Stephen Smith the show ESPN RADIO ESPN news will get into some Dak Prescott stuff as well a little bit more Antonio Brown and you're what I had to say about the nobody backing up. It is what it is. I talked to you in a minute. You listen live TV. 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ESPN radio is presented by Progressive Insurance with more than thirty unique coverage options available progressive progressive knows small business learn more progressive commercial dot com back to the phones. We go at it at eight say ESPN. That's eight seven two three seven seven six. Let's go to Rick Req- lava. Stephen a talk to me. Hey what's up Stephen. I just WanNa talk to you about them. Cowboys man and got a question for you man why you keep saying the same old stuff over and over about the cowboy fans. It's just an old man. The jokes are getting stale. I shut the hell up up because you're assuming I'm joking. I'm not joking. I can't stand Joe. It's not joke. I'm not laughing. I can't stand cowboy fans and I mean it is not a joke is how I feel consistently how I felt consistently throughout my life and I can prove to you the fact that you called up the cowboy fan and you. You said that I no longer want to talk to you. Good bye have a nice day. Let's go to nick. You'll obvious even they woods up. I Steve How're don't go ahead. Man You live on the air. Go ahead okay great so we got something in common man ullmark or your mantra with my friend. Your friend who is is Elmer's Malema Smith yes. That's my buddy used to write for the Philadelphia phenomenal. Do One of my buddies absolutely go ahead or my buddy turned me on the Mike Marley do from oranges for Brian Birdwell. I gotta say this. You do billy hunters book because jazzy saying the power with this inspired change. There's GonNa may change. Change is going to happen because by this to come on on says there's nobody black in the power structure and when they ran billy andrade NBA when they ran other brother out. There's nobody there the table oh I first of all. I I stay right there. I appreciate where you're coming from but that's not entirely accurate. First of all go dean succeeded. Billy Hunter Charlie Grantham was before Tommy Gore Dean Charlie Grantham was an exceptional executive director Simon Gore Dean. Some would argue not so much then billy the hunters in there now. Michelle Roberts is in new WHO's a sister so when you bring up or brother or brother Bravo sister and how it is nobody in there. That's an insult to the people that came before billy hunter and who came after so just change the subject because you don't know what you're talking about in that regard. You're wrong there and the leading the union well. You're talking about the union. You brought up to you you bill Janta was the union. He wasn't the League Hundred Executive Director of the Union but I can't think of anybody in the lead. Can you tell us who's in the League at the table. No no I couldn't I mean you have more tatum. Who's the deputy Pity Commissioner of the NBA Okay so you've got that going on but that's the only name that I could really really give view of substance as it pertains to an African American in that position. That's true okay so last. Here's last point on that. Issue are a race race imboden Jordan American fencer Neil so who says we're stopped kneeling. You got the panic game. He's already says don't feel we need to stop. Neal was what Jay Z. said but ten seconds earlier. He said he wasn't against any kind of protests. People are free to do what they want to do and he doesn't have a problem with. He said that ten seconds earlier or whether they clearly if I paraphrase we're done near when he said that afterwards he said another word. It's time time to go and act more than just kneeling so it wasn't like he was trying to say and articulate the position. Don't kneel anymore. He was saying okay now what he just said it wrong now. Let me give you some. Kudos doing a great job. You're you're a CO worker was on a flight with me from Philadelphia Orlando Coaches. AAU team you say when it was your turn to come up. When you came up. Everybody Room said no not him. I'm the boss at that time. You guys don't want him. That's what we want to even that that was what I said on my interview with Michael K on center stage on the Yes network. Tim legler echoed that Tim leg was one of my buddies. I appreciate that but I gotta go. Thank you for the call. Take care of yourself. Will you live Stephen. What's up yes Sir Stephen III First of all appreciate what you said about the empty AA I am sick and tired of the NC double a. and their hypocrisy and let me let me get to Dad boat missed a dad Bo Sweeney talking about his mouth saying that he would quit? Your players got paid the reason why he makes ten million dollars a year. It's called progress. Even everything around these players is progressing. The revenue is generated is more than ever and nothing's changed for these players in the landscape around him is changing but they want the players arrange money code it hold it first of all. I don't recall dabbled sweeney saying that but if he did say that clearly he's lying because dabbled sweeney about to give up nine and a half to ten million dollars a year just because players being compensated. I don't believe that for one second secondly. I think that you have a lot of coaches coaches that don't want to inherit the problem of players getting paid because remember everybody's not going to be equal and thus it would be incumbent upon condemn to get into the mix and decide who deserves to be more compensated than the other and that's not a problem they want to deal with. They want to coach football teams coach basketball teams. They don't want to be the ones to decide. Okay this play is this so he gets paid. Display is not so good. He's ride the bench. I'M NOT GONNA pay him or this. This causes startup but this guy's a star and I gotta pay one differently than I wanna pay the other so even though they averse to that it's not the same as the institution of the NC NC double A. being averse to that an individual coach is thinking about the stress and the strain a headache of having to deal play the role loving employer and having to deal with problems he doesn't want to have the NC Double A. One could argue is simply being greedy. That's the difference between the two entities station. I'm strictly talking about the California ruling that you were talking about where players can get compensated. I want to remind people that somebody don't amass scholarships I might on the band scholarship the ship they can go out and get jobs they can. They can have banned lessons. They can get flu lesson. They can make money but a player. They're breaking his neck. Risking his life and lamp he cannot profit from his lightness is on American. That's what I'm talking about. Steven A. and anybody that thinks that is that is right is a socialist. Is he the the Socialist Institution well you say Socialist Institution. I disagree with you. They're they're extremely capitalistic for themselves. I don't know what you're talking talking about. There are finding is he. WB extremely capitalistic just in favor of themselves that's what I think their behavior emulates that of capitalism the for themselves and maybe socialism everybody else but definitely capitalism for themselves appreciate the call Jonathan you lava Stephen Edwards up even now are you Gordon Moore's second ball I'm a lifelong dolphins fan and been on this planet for Nineteen Years Says Tired of hearing about my parents. My parents friends told me that I need to stick in their seventies. Whatever the warriors were what do I do. Should I hope for a win in any time this year. Should I stress which teams of Y'all want listen. Let's talk about switch it. All you want to but your heart is where your heart is. If your heart is with the Miami Dolphins you can pretend like you room for somebody else. Della cows come home the fact of the matter. Is You really rooted. You're really focusing on another team because of your disgust with the Miami Cami Dolphins as opposed to you. Love somebody else if you love is. Where is somebody else. That's where it's going to be and that's where it's going to stay and there's nothing that you're going to be able to do about that so good luck with it. I've got nothing back Stephen. What do I do well you don't support them to send a message edge that that better times need to arrive sooner than later you don't support ineptitude staring you in the face and slapping that high end to that question wow all right well. I'm delighted. Thank you sir. Thank you take it easy it at eight say. 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It's not joke. I'm not laughing. I can't stand cowboy fans and I mean it is not a joke is how I feel consistently how I felt consistently throughout my life and I can prove it to you. The fact that you called up in a cowboy fan and you said that I no longer want to talk to you. Good bye have a nice day. Let's go to nick. You'll obvious even able to steve up how you doing all right. Go ahead. You're on the air. Go ahead okay great so we got something in common man. I'll murder. You're my friend. Your friend who is Elmer Smell Must Smith yes. That's my buddy used to write for the Philadelphia phenomenal. Do One of my buddies absolutely go ahead twenty four. My Buddy turned me on to Mike Marley Wally Matthews Ron borjas for Brian Birdwell guys say this you and Hamsters do billy hunters book because Jay Z. Saying the power with this inspired chains is GonNa. Make change pertains isn't going to happen because by listen come on son says there's no body black and the power structure and when they ran billy andrade. NBA Iran other brother out. Nobody there the table. I suppose the first star right there. I appreciate where you're coming from but that's not entirely accurate accurate. First of all Simon Gore Dean succeeded Billy Hunter Charlie Grantham was before Simon Gourdine Charlie Grantham was an exceptional executive director Director Simon Gordon. Some would argue not so much then billy hunters in there now Michelle Robert is in there who's a sister so when you bring up or brother other brother brother or sister and how it is nobody in there that's an insult to the people that cable for Billy Hunter and who came after so just change the subject because you don't know would you talking about in that regard. You're wrong there and the leading the union well desk. You're talking about the union. You brought up to you you build onto the union. He wants to leak hunter was executive director of the Union but I can't think of anybody in the Lindy. Can you tell us who's in the League at the table. No no I couldn't I mean you have more tatum. WHO's the deputy commissioner of the NBA okay so you've got that going? Go on but that's the only name that I could really really give you of substance as it pertains to an African American in that position. That's true okay so last report on that issue. Are we raise immortal race imboden American fencer Neil so who says we're stopped kneeling you got he was at the Pan Am Games. He's okay then feel. We need to stop Neil well. That was what Jay Z. said but ten seconds earlier. He said he wasn't against any kind of protests. People people are free to do what they WANNA do and he doesn't have a problem with it. He said that ten seconds earlier clearly. If I paraphrase we're done when he said that afterwards he said another word. It's time to go an act more than just neely so it wasn't like he was trying to say an articulated particular position. Don't kneel anymore. He was saying okay now what he just said it wrong and let me give you some Kudos. You're doing a great job. You're you're a coworker was on a flight with me from Philadelphia Orlando Coaches team. You say when it was your turn to come up when you came up. Everybody Room said no not him but the boss at that time said if you guys don't want them. We want to even eight bit so that's the Kudos from right that that was what I said on my interview with Michael K on center stage on yes network Tim Legler Echo. Tim Leg was one of my buddies. I appreciate that but I gotta go. Thank you for the call. Take care of yourself. Will you live Stephen. They what's up. Steven is first of all appreciate what you said about the empty. Aa I am sick and tired. Hey you're the NC double a. and their hypocrisy and let me let me get to Dad Bo missed a dad. Bo Swing talking about his mouth saying that he would quit if players got paid the reason why he makes ten million dollars a year. It's called progress. Even everything around these players is progressing. The revenue is generated is more than ever and nothing's it's changing forties players and landscape around is changing but they want the players will remain stagnant hold our money home first of all. I don't recall dabbles really saying that but if he did say that clearly he's lying because Dabo Sweeney and about to give up nine and a half to ten million dollars a year just because players being compensated. I don't believe that for one second secondly. I think that you have a lot of coaches that don't want to inherit the problem of players getting paid because remember everybody's right he's not going to be equal and thus it would be incumbent upon them to get into the mix and decide who deserves to be more compensated than the other and that's not a problem problem they want to deal with. They WANNA coach football teams or coach basketball teams. They don't WanNa be the ones to decide okay. This play is this so he gets paid this play. He is not so good. He's ride the bench. I'M NOT GONNA pay him or this guy's a star but this Gaza Star and I gotta pay one differently than I wanna pay the other so even though they converse to that it's not the same as the institution of the NC Double A. being averse to that an individual coach is thinking about the stress and and the strain and a headache of having to deal played a role of an employer and having to deal with problems he doesn't want to have the NC Aa. One one could argue is simply being greedy. That's the difference between the two entities station. I'm strictly talking about the California ruling that you were talking about what players can get compensate late and I want to remind people that somebody on a mask all ships somebody on the band scholarship they can go out and get jobs they can. They can have ban lessons. They can get flu lesson. They can make money on the player. That's out there breaking his neck risking his life and limb he cannot profit from his likeness on American. That's what I'm talking about. Stephen and anybody thanks that is that is right is a socialist. NCW The Socialists Institution well you say Socialist `institution. I disagree with you. They're they're extremely capitalistic for themselves. I don't know what you're talking about. There are finding extremely capitalistic just in favor of themselves. That's what I think I think their behavior emulates that of capitalism for themselves and maybe socialism everybody else but definitely capitalism for themselves appreciate the call. Well Jonathan you lava. Steven Steven how are you. I'm wrong. Moore's second ball I'm a lifelong dolphins fan. I've been on this planet for nineteen years size tired of hearing about my parents. My parents friends that I need to stick in their seventies. Wendy's whatever the warriors were. What do I do. Should I hope for a win anytime this year. Should I stress. which teams do have you want? Listen listen. You could talk about switch it. All you want to but what your heart is where your heart is. If your heart is with the Miami Dolphins you can pretend like you room for somebody else till the cows come home. The fact that the matter is you're really you're. We're really focusing on another team because you're discussed with the Miami Dolphins as opposed to your love for somebody else. If you love is where it is for somebody else that's where is GonNa be and that's where it's going to stay and there's nothing that you're gonna be able to do about that so good luck with love and I've got nothing back. Even what do I do. Well you don't support him to send a message that that better tabs need to arrive sooner than later you don't support ineptitude when steer you in the face and slapping you that high end of that question wow all right well. I'm the lighted. Thank you sir. Thank you take it easy it at eight say. ESPN it's edited seven to nine three seven seven six back with your calls to close out the show in a minute. You're listening to live. 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India's highest court ruled Friday that one hundred fifty day internet blackout in indian-administered Kashmir Kashmir violated Indian Telecommunications Law and government claimed the blackout was a security measure to prevent protest after a change to Kashmir special status however our justice envy Romana ruled that quote freedom of Internet access is a fundamental right. The court has given the government of India a week to revise its policies and become more more transparent about Internet shutdown orders in the future. All right let's start by talking a little bit about Microsoft and some hot water. A former contractor working in Beijing had spoken to The Guardian about grading program to transcribe and vet audio from skype translations and Cortana requests both Microsoft companies. The British contractors said that he reviewed thousands of potentially sensitive recordings on his personal laptop for two years while he was working in Beijing. The contractor also said that both user names and passwords for other contractors were emailed to new hires in plain text and then shared between multiple contractors to make loggins easier Microsoft says it has ended that program am and moved human grading and to secure facilities. None of which are in China Microsoft also says that the snippets are a very small percentage de identified content and not more than ten seconds long. Oh yes a lot of this is an echo. The stories we had in two thousand nineteen about this sort of thing You Know People's information very small amount but sometimes people's information being reviewed by contractors contractors and were companies being transparent enough. The Guardian story is is very much about this contractor saying how bad the security control of that information nation was by the company he was contracting too so the question becomes how responsible was Microsoft for this. Should they have been looking into this contractor more. They've done the right thing since it came to light obviously But but you know they. They're I don't know that there's much that we can learn. Learn from this or move on. It seems like the company's all know that this is not acceptable. Now Yeah I again. Microsoft not overseeing the day to day the operation of a third party company. Well you know sometimes things slip through the cracks but not knowing things like user names and passwords and how they're shared in the fact that a bunch of passwords were being used by multiple people just to make it easier to log in and the fact that this was coming from within China and even if they're ten seconds snippets some of this is accidental. Sadan audio that's picked up You know a lot of this can be sensitive information. You know who had access to this information based on the way the Internet works there and who might still have it yeah. I'm not as concerned about the China part as I am that. They're still not monitored by by Marcus themselves. I think that's the problem and that these companies. You need to deal with that. There's just some sensitive information you don't send parties You you know. They can make their own office in China if that's possible possible. I'm just you know China. So Yeah Yeah I see no reason to push that out. You know keep that will make me feel better keeping in house. How's that wave? The shoe drops. We know who to blame for it. I mean I think it's fine to give it to third party if that third party is demonstrably trustworthy. And that's been the problem. Is they contracted it out simply to save some money. It seems like without checking to make sure that these companies were following proper security practices. And that's not okay absolutely absolutely so let's talk about Nielsen Music so Nielsen reports that music streaming services grew thirty percent in the. US last year has pretty incredible reaching one trillion streams for the first time eighty two percent of music consumption in the United States now comes from streaming music services including spotify apple music and youtube physical album. Sales fell ninety percent to nine percent of the marketing. Twenty Nineteen News and says Post Malone was a top act of two thousand nineteen and Drake Billy. Early Irish Taylor's with an Arianna Day were numbers. Two through five. John Relies Hip hop took a twenty eight percent. Share Rock came in at twenty percent zip and pop was in third place with fourteen percent. We might need to rename popular music. If it's not that popular right now it's just yeah. Yeah you've probably never heard of this pop song very indy. I be streaming services growing ARLEEN. does not surprise me. Growing thirty percent last year is a big bump the you know. That's a that's a lot of adoption happening in the US. At least I in one thousand nine hundred a lot of that has to do with especially mobile carriers sometimes bundled descend to their deals. I know my My most recent verizon plan ended up upkeeping me apple music if I chose a certain tier so I didn't have to pay for it. Separately Grade Awesome. I'll save ten dollars a month type thing and and I just you know just more more folks having the band to be able to to enjoy the stuff and man physical album sales fall down to nine percent. You know we've heard so much talk about about well you know the hipsters and deejays are keeping vinyl alive not that people still aren't buying that but it does seem like it is. We're we're getting to the end of life here in the majority of that. Physical decline is CDs. CDs are now just an inconvenient way to get digital music right they. I thought the last time I got a CD was from from a kickstarter. I had backed and I knew I was going to get the CD. It wasn't like it was a surprise but once I got it I was like wait. What do we do with this because I also had the MP threes from that kickstarter right? So I'm like doc I don't have a convenient way to rip this. I don't need to rip it because I got the MP threes like. I'm not sure what I'm doing with the CD and I think eighty two percent percents music consumption being streaming. I think that's where the everyone you could. You could literally round that up to everyone in the eighteen percent can complain but most everyone is just streaming their music. Now thank you and I probably most of us here Like what do we do with this thing just gets up from its them. Best music compilations. That's great but I have nowhere to. Where would I played as an L. In my front room? If I get a vinyl copy of something then I know exactly what to do. That's funny yeah Well congratulations to Drake Billy Andrade. I don't know who we had a we had a story on streaming numbers from spotify. Gosh last month I think post Malone was their number one artists so looks like he's He's he's a crowd favourite. Yeah and they're making money have been streaming more music Like I just use apple music through the Amazon Echo and just I played. Today's hits quite often so you know who is the five years ago. There were people who were like but streaming streaming. You don't really own the music. What if the album gets yanked for some reason from the service that you use and and you know you really earn control of that that does sometimes happen open but less and less frequently so streaming music is is has has gotten pretty solid to the point where it is a rare day where I go? Where's this album on apple music music that I wanted and and doesn't exist anymore? Now we need to do TV and we're good search ten speed and Brown pilot is available for streaming we'll know where their researchers researchers at malware bytes say that an android phone subsidized by the US government for low income users comes preinstalled with software. That installs adware without the user's knowledge. Your permission software is located in the settings APP meaning you could uninstall it but then you'd be uninstalled the settings APP which means you wouldn't be able to use your phone so not really a way to uninstall it a second piece of software called Wireless Update installs your phone's security and system updates. It's but also other apps without permission. It appears to be a variant of a AD OPS from Chinese company that was found to collect user data on blue phones. So that's worrying and again if you could remove it but if you do you won't get any system in security updates anymore The thirty five dollar the phone is called the US. Max You six eighty sixty l.. You get it through Virgin Mobile's assurance wireless program it's part of the lifeline assistance program which is a US FCC plan end to make free or government subsidized phone service available to millions of low income. Families Sprint is investigating this because rent owns virgin mobile but but said it did not believe the APPS were malicious. And malware. Bytes didn't find any actual malware being installed by these two APPS although Mauer Bites considered sitters the two apps themselves to be malware. They they haven't been installing anything malicious. But I don't think that's the point. It's not whether this is militias. It's that Jesse. Getting subsidized subsidized phone. Lamar you pointed this out in. Prep meeting doesn't mean I should give up these rights. Yeah I I I know. People who have who have these types of phones Who are low income and if the government is subsidizing it why what is the? What's the point of ads? And I just that's just greet at that point. I mean the point of ads is more money on top. You're right. This phone is already subsidized. Government is paying for it have to have the ads on top of it right. That was molly thing. Yeah the the whole thing of like well you could technically uninstall this you know these APPs that you might not You might not want you know adware and just kind of blew it. Where even if it's not malicious like you mentioned Tom for the phone to then become useless? It is is it is. Yeah and this. Yeah the subsidized model should have absolutely nothing to do with this. This is actually a great program on the surface fantastic program. Let's be clear. We're not saying this phones. This phone isn't free. You have to pay thirty five dollars for it and sprint is getting money from the government to make up the difference so putting the ads on on top of it. If that wasn't clear it's not like we're saying nothing is free. No no this. This phone should have already been paid for. And then they're putting ads on top of which don't give you any control which no one would accept that from a website under California law or European law. That's ridiculous so yeah this is. This is not okay okay. According to a Pew Research Center survey conducted June third through seven tenth of two thousand nineteen one in five adults now say they regularly really wear a smart watch or a fitness tracker among households that earn more than seventy five thousand dollars per year thirty one percent where one on a regular basis compared with twelve percent of households with annual income below thirty thousand dollars gender wise twenty five percent of women said they regularly use wearables compared to eighteen percent of then. So I'm GonNa aware and more of them Hispanic and black adults more likely than Caucasian adults to wear fitness tracker twenty six percent twenty percent. Excuse me and twenty percent respectively really what to do with that data more a matter of dispute for example. The story is really gotten whether it's acceptable to share health data from wearables with heart. Disease Researchers forty-one percent said yes thirty five percent said unacceptable. Twenty two percent weren't sure. Yes so this is this is. There's an interesting breakdown I and and there's all kinds of speculation you can have about why it breaks down this way You know is it that women men wear wearables more often because they're more concerned with health or is it more concerned with weight. Loss' is it just Is it just a random a situation I duNno and yeah that's it that Start was interesting to me because I would never say well. Women Care more about fitness than men. Because that's not true it depends on the person of course and these statistics. Are you know they. They applied everybody for different reasons. I think maybe Might have to do with the fact that you know. It's kind of a in a way like a piece of jewelry. Maybe women are a little bit more watch wearing than men in general you know. I don't know if that's true wearing probably yeah. Perhaps and men generally wear again we're we're verging on lots of stereotypes. You know. Forgive us but you know men in general will wear if they wear watches a lot of times. It's wearing them for status symbols right and and a fitbit isn't as much of a status symbol as a as a role. Excuse Utah Merit this. Is You know it's getting me unless you're Sara Lane. Yeah Yeah Yeah right right well. I'm glad to being a black man that That small percentage of the Apple Watch the middle percentage there. Yeah exactly exactly now we can. We mentioned in pre show was it the Hispanic and black was because I think you mentioned because they were younger. It was like a younger demographic. Roger Roger mentioned that are just Hispanic and and and and black population do tend to be a little younger and the study did find that amongst younger users. There was higher adoption so that that might affect those numbers really interesting breakdown. It's also interesting to me just in a medicine that we're how we have enough people wearing These devices now to do a medicine like this you know thirty one percent of People make seventy five thousand dollars or more with them. Even twelve percent of people with annual income below thirty thousand wearing one. That tells me that you know. It's not mass. It's not like everybody you meet is going to have a wearable but it's certainly more than it used to be where it was perceived preceived. Well you must be just a real enthusiast about something to where it's becoming a little more mainstream and again going back five years a little bit more for the whole kind of wearable fitness tracker the market was still testing the waters and there are a lot of people who are just like. I'm not going to wear that. I don't care how many steps I've taken a day. But the SMARTWATCH has has blossomed into so much more than that an extension of your smartphone giving you all sorts of data And fitness trackers. Even I'm wearing the fitbit versa. Too It is very fitness oriented ended but it gives me a lot of other information that has has made it more it is. It is a source of information for me not just an exercise tool although it is that as well yeah I I went from not really wanting to wear the apple. Watch when it first came out Worked for like a month and then we ended up giving a giving it away at Nerd Tackler To try it again a couple of years later and now I'm hooked. I loved the mostly the fitness stuff but as a side benefit the notifications locations. You know the weather. I don't use it as much to control things like I'll have my podcast player controls on there but that seems a little finicky sometimes But Yeah I am. I suppose I'm one of those unusual white men that were aware I use mine for this really really interesting. This is does the latest one. A series five. Yeah so I found this great use for this is called time where you can find out how. Oh you know what what time it is during the day and I find it very fascinating for this. This device should try that. Is that an APP. It's actually built in most people. Don't see it don't wear on my watch maybe you can uninstall it as well. I mean we joke but at the same time for many years as I didn't wear a watch because I was like I was at my iphone with me. Like how hard is it. And even when I started to wear my fitbit it took solid month for me to stop reaching for my phone wherever my phone was my pocket or a purse or at the table next to me and finally I've now finally got to the point where I'm like. The time is a part of me. Forty Eight VM Pacific. And that's like it's going backwards a little bit but it has been really nice to retrain myself to watch it. Sounds silly but you're right Labar it's it. It is one of the major benefits of wearing a watch. You know watch wears already knew this but when now we're part of it yet we're one of you one of you folks want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes be sure to subscribe to daily tech headlines Dot Com and gadget handed out it's official best of CAS awards they are the CPA not a partner on this the best of CAS went to Hydra loop remember mentioning on on the show earlier this week. We didn't talk about water recycling enough. Here's our chance hydro loop is a home water purification device that you install and it will take your waste water filter it six ways and then rerouted for. We're using your toilets your washing machine. If you have a pool it can water your lawn with it. It's available in Europe already coming to the United States this year for four thousand dollars among the other winners were the phonak Vertigo Black hearing aid with Bluetooth. Just very good implementation of that. The winning scan watch. We talked about this on the show that has the heart rate sensor the ECJ and thirty day battery life in a very nice analog kind of appearance on the wall box quasar which manages an electric vehicles nichols battery to help power your home so you keep your your car charge but then you can actually supplement the power in your home from your car's battery kind of manages that for you. We talked about the Weber. Connect smart grilling hub usable with any grill that one one of the Category Awards and the Razor Kishi side controllers for your phone also won the Gadget People's Choice Award. The verge gave its own best in show word to the Lenovo thinkpad x one fold and called out the alienware concept view. NFO Intel's nook nine extreme platform. Samsung's Bezzola say case screen The GE's see smart which is smart switches. dimmers the humblest ones. We talked about all those on the show and they gave an award to the net year. Nighthawk Mesh we talked about all of these on the shows. So what. We're GONNA talk a a little bit about some of the trends we saw here. But Lamar No. You've been following this really closely to what what is caught your eye out of the kind of help us wrap this up. I mean he's got so much stuff I I I am. I leaned towards games. That's kind of what I do the most but a the the what was it called the the big old from origin they had A. Pc you see that is a gaming streaming pc but you can also choose to have a installed. ps four pro or xbox digital edition install in in the case which I think is like really cool. Now that's crazy expensive. But it's also the hardware from the hardware not the council. That's the box. Yeah they take the board and everything. I got permission to do that. And it looks beautiful. It's a it's a great concept and again is one of those. Ah You know the new ones are coming up into the year. How how how? How long term? But I think if you're an enthusiast I thought that was really cool to see on there that takes me back to to the old ultimate gaming machine or a that we built on the screen savers way back in the day. which was Frankenstein? I wasn't even born. When was yeah exactly also Samsung showed it shut off the Odyssey jeanine which is like forty? Nine Inch Ultra widen gave me monitor. which I need I need it? It's not a one. I need it because I need this. Set up here too. Yeah I have to twenty seven inch dual dual monitors and now I want this to place it saying. I'm going to get a new monitor and keep sticking with my old. HP Twenty seven inch. I need to do but but every time you see the sticker price on these things and I just get I don't know and then you talked about the the concept UFO from alienware talking about that a little bit on Tuesday with her law. Yeah so that's the hand held like a switch. Do you like this concept. I really do like the concept. I mean the the switch is kind of like you know. Say the pioneer but like what is department they now but something for windows that can play Windows Games. I mean I'm always looking for at Expo Portable xbox I think that'd be the dream and so something that is a lease heading to that direction. The switches crazy popular right. You know so people and Mobile Games Department if people do want you know this stuff on on the go. I feel like Antwon caught people's imagination because if you like the switch and you're like Oh oh but I could play all these games that I can't play on the switch and a similar fashion with little bigger screen like. Yeah I think that that started. Get some wheels turning exactly and and finally just a little fun thing happened in the beginning to the the playstation file local reveals when I was watching the conference and I felt bad for my fellow comrades who who who who do videos and or blog whatever who was sitting there with the record button just just waiting for that moment for the revealed. Everybody thought There wasn't a reveal and I I didn't think there was reveal. It was like Oh. It's the old logo but with a fun. Yes so that was. That was a state afternoon or oh yeah I like seats on it. You send us the link to where it was. It was kind of a weird flex by Sony to just be like. Here's these are new logo. Guess what it's the same as the old logo drop the MIC drop. Take Marks Herald column about that. We'll have a link in the show notes as well. Let me yes you just you. Wha what do you like. I didn't see everything on C.. L. Busy here but like wasn't a better show than the year. Before I gotta Say I you know I've been to so many shows sometimes blend together and there's it's very easy especially for people who report on all the time he kinda go. Oh we gotta trudge back to Vegas. And there's going to be all this vaporware that never sees the light of day and concept cars. That aren't real and you know it's everyone kind of jokes about that part of it and that was true this this year but I also saw a lot of just really practical technology. And that's why I'm a sucker for the BIG AK TV that. I don't need and I'm not going to by anytime soon but I still like that. I like the flashy stuff but really a lot of the home automation. SMART Iot devices things to help you sleep sleep better. You know stuff where it's like. They didn't really have to sell me. That hard on the idea you know as long as the product works as advertised. I thought that there was a I was kind of impressed. I felt like CAS came down to Earth a little bit more this year for me. I heard more people saying well. I've found more things that I thought were interesting than usual which the general jaded dated Tech Press. It's another full of vaporware right so there really was a feeling of their some interesting stuff. There's also the weird stuff but there's some interesting stuff We saw a smaller. TV's being touted the forty eight inch TV's with the panel from LG display along with the big that was an interesting trend to be putting a smaller smaller TV as an advantage right We saw a lot of foldable screens in concept devices rather than last year when the foldable screen was the concept. They're like look if we can pull the screen this year. There were like now that we can pull the screen. Here's what we might do with it. Hubli is smart home tech. That like you said Sarah. Rising tide of health oriented Tech Wide Wide Use and misuse of a and things. Though I think with true machine learning Now showing up in products we saw a lot of products that can make promised automation features things that they say they could do but didn't really do. Well start to work well so I think broadly. That's that's that's where I came out of. Cas I agree it was. It was a better show for practicality than usual a lot of good stories in our sub Greta as well thanks for to everybody who submit stories and votes on others they rise to the top daily attack new show dot ready dot com. You can also join the conversation in our discord and you can join by linked to a patriotic count at Patriot dot com slash D. S.. Are All right. Let's check in with Chris Christopherson. It's twenty twenty and the amateur traveler has a little news bit airbnb. Recent milestone Chris Christianson from amateur traveler with another attack attack in travel minute. You're familiar I would assume with airbnb which has been disrupting the hotel world as well as the online booking world one in story I messed but I saw on skift dot com that in two thousand nineteen AIRBNB actually passed up expedia in the number of room nights the book and so that's a fairly significant disruption in that industry expedia had been for some time the largest booking engine on the planet. What what that does to the future of the accommodation industry is unclear especially as AIRBNB is planning to expand their offerings to be more of a full all service offering than they are today that they've already added to accommodations tours and we'll see what else they add? I'm Chris Christensen from amateur traveler interesting moment. Thank you Chris all right. Let's take out the mail bag. Yeah Doug had some thoughts on vehicle pedestrian alerts. We talked about this on the show. Oh yesterday Doug says your coverage when you talked about vehicle to pedestrian alerts and how they would work with vehicles. I work in the automotive electrical area and thought I'd give you some insights sites. Actually it was on our Wednesday show one of the reasons. This technology is starting to come out. Doug says is there are. There seems to be an agreement to move to a five based vehicle to vehicle and vehicle to who pedestrian communication system for years. There was a competing standard called ds RC. There was a form of Wi fi caused confusion. About what would be deployed one of the arguments as for Gwynn to a five G.. System was that an added benefit would be easier adoption with pedestrians and cyclists as their phones would automatically be carrying the proper radios as far as interaction. Action goes while phones will undoubtedly alert users to a threat of a major part of the system will be added temporary spatial awareness by vehicle of who is a rounded and if necessary very early triggering of autonomous emergency braking on the vehicle in order to slow or stop it. Yeah that's a big one being able to automatically slow down a vehicle or stop it to avoid hitting. A pedestrian is is a way bigger part of this equation. The pedestrian necessarily knowing to get out of the way Doug Doug thank you for sharing your expertise love this email now we need that in La. Oh yeah so. Put that in my car. If I'm in dangerous hitting anything at all. I mean just stopped my car for any reason. I'm not able to do so agree. Shout out to all our patrons at our master and grandmaster levels including Tim Ashman when Philip. Shane and Jeffrey Zilk's all right. Let's check in with Len Peralta who has been busily drawing the topics of the show today lend. What have you got? 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