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Jeanette Never Let You Down Lee

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Jeanette Never Let You Down Lee

"Welcome back to american billiard radio. I i've said this so many times. I i shouldn't even have the right to say it but yes i know it's been a while. Today is thursday february eighteenth and amongst the news that i'm going to mention on this episode. Is well the reason why. I'm doing an episode today and there's also the motivation behind doing an episode. So if that wasn't mysterious enough the biggest news right. Now is the news about jeanette lee. The news broke yesterday. That genet- was diagnosed with stage. Four ovarian cancer really the only information that we have out there is. What's in the press release however the interview for this episode is with her agent in good friend. Tom george thomas somebody that. I've worked with in the billiards industry. For quite some time y- in relation to ginette. I used to maintain nets website. So i worked regularly with. Tom and i worked with jeanette and she was. She was fun to work with I'm gonna. I'm not gonna try to get into any details. I will say that. I'm not surprised by the outpouring of support that we're seeing in the industry. I'm i'm not even really surprised with the amount of coverage that i'm seeing from outside of the industry off microphone. Tom mentioned that the washington post had a story about it our. Espn was doing what they could to help push you know. Get the news out there. Tmz website had information about it. Janette is a unique person in the billiards industry. I talked about this with tom in the interview. Genetic is the combination of ability. Drive smarts motivation. I i mean she was able to do something she was able to become a name outside of our world. I can't count the number of times. I've i've climbed into a taxi and you get into a conversation with the driver about while you're there while i'm here for a pool tournament i'm here for a trade show. Whatever and the first question out of their mouth is do you know the black widow. The black widow is what people outside of the industry associate with pool and she was able to to create that she did an outstanding job of promoting herself and in promoting herself promoted the game itself so again. I don't wanna get too too deeply into it. We don't know a whole lot. What we do know is the genetics won an awful lot of matches in her life. And she's going to do everything she can to win. This one In other news. I don't wanna dig too deeply into the billy thorpe saying look my opinion. I've been wrong before but this is just my opinion q. Tech was a no win situation. They did what they had to do. They made the right decision might experience. I'm not gonna name names years and years and years ago before as e billiards was anywhere near what it is now. I had a player. Come to me and say you're not doing a very good job of marketing. Easy billiards and there's so much more that could be done by marketing. It and i. I understood that completely. That's not what i do. I built the website. I took it. I didn't want to have anything to do with that. I mean i ran the site for years without a banner on one but this player came to me and said look. I can sell advertising for the site and i. I'm a youngster. In the industry we meet at tournament. We were sharing a room at a tournament and he tells one of the big name companies. Hey mike atherton over daisy billiards. He needs a q. And this company brings me thousand dollar q. Now keep in mind. This was ten fifteen years ago. I was blown away. you know. This is a major cue company that just handed me a cue for the. They're gonna advertise. And i said well there you go. You can sell marketing. You can sell advertising on site. It wasn't two days at this tournament when people came to. Today is So-and-so selling marketing for you selling banner ads. I said yeah. He's some work with us and they said well you need to understand how he does business and you know he's he's very pushy and this is the way he handles things and i went back to him and i said hey. You're representing a billiards. I realized that the way you do business but this this is not going to work. We need to tone it down. Look if people wanna come on and by. That's great if they don't okay. It doesn't mean anything negative if they don't want advertise that's fine. We're going to do everything we can to to promote what they're doing and he said look. This is the way i do things. You either have me do things the way i do them or i'm not doing them for you. You know it was two or three days into our relationship. And i said okay then i guess you're not you're not selling ads for me it at the moral of the story which i realize. They're not the same but the moral of the story is when you are speaking for a sponsor when when a spot it's not just hey thanks i'm gonna wear your patch and you're gonna give me some cues that can raffle off and i'll go about my business like i talked with tom about in this interview. You are always on camera. And you are always representing that company. You are no longer john doe pool player. You are now john doe pool player sponsored by xyz q. Company and everything you do is done under that name. Xyz pool company. So you know. Look i get it. Billy's a very popular player and billy is going to have sponsorship before any of us know it. I mean he's a great player. He's a champion. He's going to go on to win many many many more tournaments and he's going to have any more sponsors it was a lesson learned and i'm sure he will learn it so again q. Tech and yes. I one hundred percent. Admit cutic- is a sponsor of as you billiards. It doesn't matter if they were a sponsor or not. I fully believed that they were in a lose lose situation and they did what they had to do. So speaking of q companies predator predators making some waves out there in the industry does not really making waves but predator is is getting even more volved. We had the release in the downtime between episodes that the tri-state tour is now the predator. Tristate tour not surprised when tony roma's left work and went to florida. The predator stopped operating the tri-state tour with john layman had been out there for so long already so it just made sense for predator step in and become a a title sponsor for that tour. They're also involved with this new coming up for match room the championship series event. I don't know a whole lot about that event We don't really have complete information about the the format and how it's going to happen. But i expect we will. We will know that soon. I mean it's mid february and the event is in march in in kovic related. News super billiards. Expo is postponed again. It's it's now scheduled for june with an announcement expected in mid april as to whether it's going to be postponed again. I can't wait for that. Event finally happened. But i understand allen doing everything he can to to make sure that everyone is able to enjoy it safely in the meanwhile water is wet news. Jason shaw wanted ten ball event surprise. Dennis koyo one big one pocket event chain van boning one nine ball event and christina to koch won a big ladies event. I think maybe. I'll just take that little segment of the show and record it and put it on my desktop. Because i'll be saying many many more times in the future. So moving onto what i mentioned as the motivation for another episode this week we and when i say we i mean nate mendham dimitrius jihadists and rob ho from the podcast. And nicholson from the chaka's cheap podcast and myself. All announced that we are joining up to create the queue. It up network now. This is the american radio side of what i do. So american billiard radio is cheap and it. Podcast are going to join forces and release their episodes through the same platform. So you'll have this episode today in a couple of days. You'll have an episode from nick with shock cheap A couple of days. After that. You'll probably have an episode from nate and robyn dimitrius because natives doing his fiji nine ball with the ladies this week. What it's going to mean for the listener is that you're going to have a regular supply of new podcasts. To listen to it's not going to be oval mike. Ab are might do one episode a month and you know if if nate's busy running an online tournament maybe there he won't do an episode for four or five days. It's the winner in this partnership is going to be the listener. They're going to have much more to listen to. And that's why i became a part of it. I also i mentioned this. In the announcement. I became a part of it because american billiard radio started out with dave and marc and melinda and myself and randi and scott hand other people who submitted content to the podcast. When when dave released an episode wasn't just dave talking for an hour it was it was a segment with david was segment with mark was a segment with me. We all did things together. And an thatt's how. I see this partnership benefiting american voted radio. I see benefiting the show with input from other people. I'm looking forward to doing an episode. Every once in a while with dimitrius or doing an episode. Every once in a while with nick or rob or nate. I'm also honestly knowing myself. I want to be held accountable. You know. I feel bad every time. I don't do episode but like i said in the announcement. It's easy to not do an episode. You don't do this week. And then it's easy the next week to say i didn't do one last week. You know. nobody's listening anyway. That's not true. And i think being held accountable to a degree by the guys in the partnership will help me make more episodes. We'll see you know. We all struggle with our inner demons and this one is one of mine and we don't need to get into what we do need to get into. Is the interview that i did with tom george. Tom talks about the the details of situation with ginette. He doesn't know a lot of details but he talks about what he knows. And then we talk about ginette and his relationship with her over these years and what it was ginette has that we don't see from other players right now and yes. Tom and i very briefly talk about the idea that the you're always on camera when when you're being sponsored but i'll let tom his input. I think he has a very valuable input into that. So as usual without further. Ado i give you tom george. I'm very. i'm very saddened. Kind of right now to be joined by tom. George tom georgia's genetics. Longtime it was much much more than just a simple agent client relationship. Tom runs tom george sports and literary tom. I'm guessing you've been pretty busy lately. It's been it's been very very busy and i've i've been involved in go fund me campaigns before but i never ran one before and not much better appreciation for the people that ran them because they are much more work than simply putting up a website and then watching. It's tons of work and we're we're sending thank you notes. Everybody who donates. And there's there's people with all kinds of suggestions from help before her illness. Which i pass along because i'm certainly not the expert in that category To other things that you can do You know just nice things Got a note from a lady. In muncie indiana who. We do not know who who is has billiards page billiards Facebook page and that group is having a fundraiser virginia. This saturday In muncie waas. That's that's really nice exactly So it's been it's been very it's been. I've been depressed about it a lot. Because it's depressing working way. But i've also been very gratified at the at the response. We're getting from from all the people she's done business with in the past and the people we don't even know and i. It's not that i didn't expect it. I sorta did But it was still gratifying. Gratifying and warm to Get it well. let's get the. Let's get the depressing side of things out of the way. What details can you give us about. What's going on. yeah. I'm happy to find what i can knowing my not the medical expert here at all But she has stage four cancer. She was diagnosed with that About a month ago is complete surprise and it has migrated into her lymph. Node is which is bad She's always started chemotherapy and She will be doing. A whole bunch of operations can retails. Which ones because that's her private stuff. It's all a bunch of operations to remove lymph nodes and stuff. She's dedicated fighting this as hard as she can. The prognosis is not good. Generally we try to keep a hopeful point of view. You know it can be beaten. It has been beaten. People have beaten it It's it's that's that's so from my point of view We can hope for the best and prepare for the worst. That's that's what i'm doing She didn't even know she had it for a long time because she's such pain. All the time from the scoliosis is has been fighting forever She had operation last march to this Process that would help. Alleviate the pain from her back and was unsuccessful That was her nineteenth surgery for scoliosis. Which is a lot So the pain was sort of masked painted. The cancer was sort of mask pain. She didn't even find out about it until she couldn't breathe. Found out this. She had fluid in her plora which is lining around the lungs That's when they found out you cancer So it's it's tough and she's but i'll tell you her her attitude is she. Has she has her moments of course. But it's it's It's the same attitude to gave her. Her nickname view is fight. It as hard as long as you can What's jim bell. Honor speech And she liked it. What i wanna do. You know what. I mean by the gym valve. Honor speech you okay. Most sports fans do. If you're a sports fan out there and you have not heard the jim valvano cancer espy speech. Go on youtube and watch it. It's worth worth seeing. And i will grab a link to it in the throw it up on the show notes here for for anyone who hasn't seen it it special. It's he did a great job and he died only a few days after that And genetic not near death right this minute. She's not but she's going. She's got a really bad cancer and it's involved And she's like i said she's. She took her second. Second round of chemo was yesterday and and for the first couple of listeners. Out there who may not be familiar with the scoliosis that she's for all these years. I mean what a what do we know about that. Nineteen surgeries yeah. Well it's okay. I can again not a medical expert. But i've lived this part And it and it didn't inhibited her income a lot over the years to because he's had the had all of these surgeries but scoliosis basically curvature of the spine And there's a bunch of ways to treat. Its first diagnosed. When she was ten she spent a lot of her youth in a body. Cast trying to straighten it There's a famous story about what she i got into billiards She was she was manically into billiards Different than most reason. Most people billiards by the way she loves it. The geometry of the geometry of it made sense to her It was beautiful to her and she practiced so much. That are back hurt so much. Her friends had to carry your home crying but it's she now has every bone and every vertebra in her spine from her neck door but is fused. So if you're if you're on her left or right and say something to her she has to turn your whole body to look at you. She cannot turn her head just general body to look at you. Fortunately for billiards she can bend at the waist But the paint has gotten so bad in the last few years that she could not reach the end of the table. And you can't be appropriate using a bridge right shit not so very many times. Not very much But she really couldn't couldn't take an number of matches. You had to play in the number of amount of time. It was just too debilitating For for her to to to do that so all kinds of neck surgeries and back surgeries and You know like you said every every every vertebras is Is fused considering the amount of success that she's had in the game. How much more success could she have had if she hadn't been fighting the scoliosis. Well that's a that's a shoot at a soothsayer question. Mike out But i can do this. We were having we did. We did okay she. I think it's fair to say that. If you discount hustling. I'm not saying genetic hustle but if you just people who made money at billiards by hustling. Because nobody knows how much of that is could be a lot But made it legitimately prizemoney -dorsements independence and stuff. I'm pretty sure genetic made more than anybody. I don't see anybody that's even close however that is not a lot of money in depending on how you measure it. It's a good living. It's a very good living But it's not wealth. I did a little math yesterday. I looked at it and if If you're garrett cole or justin verlander you make you make more money Halfway through the season did ginette meet her entire career There are a college assistant coaches that make more than a year than ginette has made a billiards cumulatively. So it's good and she was famous and all that but she never had the kind of Wealth at celebrity that people who think people think celebrities all make a great sum of money. Genetic meet a nice living. She had a kid not have wealth right and that leads to the go fund me. Whose idea was the go fund me and can you talk about what it's set up for. Yeah i can't it was mine. I volunteer volunteer to do it And you know. Have some resistance. Because you don't asking people from that. That's so she's not asking It's it's Me and my pinocchio from billiards digest. And the guys that epa and a a group of people are doing this on her behalf And it's really set up for her kids because she has three kids still in the house. Minor girls Cheyenne is sixteen. Now close eleven and so then is ten delightful girls very cute and Genetic been a single mother for them for a long time and remain anxiety which is why came up with the idea. I look for an idea for that matter. was her main anxiety about what she was going through was the possibility that she'd be leaving her kids in the lurch. And she doesn't want that to happen You know her main source of income over the last few years has been. She's she runs the apa franchise. Is you guys know what that is right. I mean the those people know what that is right. It's the league. That's to pa in the tampa area. Well anybody who's been Is with the. Apa knows that the last year of the pandemic has not been kind to that business It's been viciously bad for that business. 'cause nobody's going to bars to play right So there's been a big downturn in that business so It it's it's a it's a real need as distinctly. There's also a a long term need. This is designed so that Her kids will be able to go to. College is part of the caring wellbeing for her medical expenses for jeanette because he's had scoliosis for so long A lot of this is covered by medicaid. Not and her insurance doesn't cover much. It's business expensive because it's always been viciously expensive because she's Had a pre existing condition. Well and there isn't really a professional pool insurance fund out there to to pull from now. There's no yeah there's none of that you know she's never meant member of a team you know. She's always been responsible for her own as all all the men and women who play professionally. Are they responsible for their own expenses. Apply this trade Well lot of that international travel So it's It's it's it's a combination but the the main function of this is to make sure that if in fact your net does pass prematurely that her girls are taking care of and and like the jim valvano speech. I will also have a link on the show notes to the go fund me so people can go check that out and make their. Don't say let's. Let's talk about happier. Thanks can can you talk about of all the pro players that i've ever dealt with. I can't think of any of that. Had an agent aside from janette how that got started. Yes i can't. But i'm gonna tell you that i i also used to represent mataya way back a year and a half way before represented. There's a big article in the new york times magazine. Profiled evan avis obviously attractive woman as well and we we try. I tried hard for a year and a half. I tried hard. She was wonderful And we did a couple of things. I did something that a book deal and we did that toward australia. A couple of things. We did a couple of things but it was just way too much work for the for the income and we parted ways amicably And so a few years later a few years after that One of my. I need to explain. My relationship and company. I worked for at the time was octagon is now the. I was a founding member of of that firm And is now the largest sports marketing. Fb representation form firm in the planet. It's we're the biggest. I still say we. I've been gone there ten years now but i have a very strong pride of ownership We're we were we are and we're one of the big boys right so one of my and i was. Iran are athlete marketing group. I wasn't an agent in jerry. Maguire sense i wasn't you know that's what people tend to think of think of agents At it's not that model so we had guys who were the recruiters were client managers. And i took my group. And i took care of their off court off the off ice off pitch marketing and other ways of monitoring what they do is that is that a okay. Good so One of my basketball agents came to me. The guy who represented travis best in indianapolis at the time And said listen this. This chavis knows this pool player. Ginette lead the black widow. She wants to talk to you. So what do you think. My response was my response was ma- man. I want to geez. She's willing to come out here. Meet you really well. I'll talk to her. I'll i'll be happy to talk to her so i'm senior. I'm the senior guy on the staff right so she comes in She comes into in northern virginia She flew into indianapolis and came to the came to the office. Just like genetically dresses case with a little white waistcoat. Kinda thing right And she comes into the The conference room to talk to me for a while and we talk. I tell all the reasons why. I don't wanna do it. She keeps goin' She keeps going but before she fourche even sat down. She walks up to her chair. Sh she she makes his big show of taking off the waist coat and hanging it on the back of the chair. She's wearing a a A black piece altered thing right okay. And and she's talking to me about all this stuff and and She's look all i want you to do. Just let me be on the roster and just whenever i have a deal upbringing to you can negotiate it and do the legal. And i'll pay this. And i said really. That's all you want so proactive. No responsibility no. She said no. Just do that. I said okay. We'll do this. And i said and quite frankly. You had me at waistcoat which she to this day denies that ever happened. Denies it completed denies. That ever happened but it wasn't more than three or four months of doing that. that We were we were representing her full-bore and one of the things that makes you special amongst athletes not just pool players in Boards more important. Because it doesn't things don't come to you. Nobody works at like jeanette. Lee works it. You i was getting. I was getting cards and leads and Ideas and things to do and people. Follow up with so much. That and i did. We were making money. We did good And i've used this court several times. I use it again because it's a good one. Everybody knows her as genetic the blackwood genetically the black widow. That's the branding wish. Never ginette the black widow lee genetically the black widow. We just took us an hour to talk. Talk that lead. The black widow In the in the octagon offices she got the nickname ginette. Never let you down louis. The is she never cancelled she. Did she always came with the goods. She always gave you a good show no matter what in the entire time. I've represented her which was decades. She missed one gig. And i made do not go and it was a free charity gig that we could easily reschedule and she was sick as a dog. I wouldn't let her go But other than that she met she made every gig. Mike you're old enough to remember the atlanta super bowl. You remember that it was a long time ago but they were there ice storms in atlanta all that week for super bowl week it was vicious. Nobody could fly in. They couldn't fly. It was very hard and genetic gig that day with the national football league players association for no money. She got two tickets to the game which is still pretty good money but okay And so she's in indianapolis gigs in atlanta. I'm camping things left. And right because people can't get there and she calls me and and Sh i cut her off. She starts talking to not. Don't worry about it. Everybody's canceling out. Just tell me give me. She goes no no no no no. We're we're gonna make it. George george in higher are driving. We're halfway across kentucky will make it. I remember taking the phone. This is back when we had phones that are connected to the wall. Remember those phones. I took the receive and i'm staring at the receiver. Like who is this person Joke so she worked it very hard. She delivered the goods. You know. I think everybody sort of thing just because of the nickname the nickname was very organic. And i think you know it did. Nobody gave her that nickname really or it just stuck. It was there's not. It wasn't part of the marketing plan. If you know what. I mean it certainly didn't hurt. It was a very good nickname and it work. I was always amused by that. The rest of the girls. All of a sudden had nicknames You know the striking vikings the duchess of doom. There's some more i know there. I just remember them But that's that's part of it in. And when i signed her the guys that acting gave me a whole bunch of grief. Because yeah tom. There's no money and billiards. What you do your chest representing her. Because she's so good looking. And i thought about that for a second i said well it's been my experience at beautiful people are easier to sell the non beautiful people. I must say that And that's true so the lookout But you've seen you've seen her perform she s. She has a lawn she has style. She has verve. I mean she's you know she's she's not just knocking balls in a pocket right right now she. She's stalking around that table. And she's glaring at it and she's pumping fists and all that kind of stuff. It's fun to watch And because of that issue became. Espn's darling because that's the and if you had to ask me really. What was the key to our popularity. Espn was televising. Williams billiards at the time with all that other stuff would have been nice but not compelling but you know Without the you have to have the exposure to and espn gave that to her But that's true for all the other girls at that time and there were some players. Obviously alison fishers awesome player And she's popular and she's pretty But genetic just had all those that that really good combination stuff. And i like to think i helped. Certainly it's interesting that you talk about the the combination of traits. The ginette brought to the table. That was. That was something i wanted to ask you about. Their there were players who played during the time that she was at her peak at her level. I mean i think at one time she was the top player on the wpa but there were other players who played close. But no one that i can remember has had that combination of excuse me of marketability of looks of talent of of just knowing what they wanted to go after and i left something out. That's really important and it's really important now because it's reason why these this gofundme campaign seems to be working she. She is the nicest sweetest athlete. I've ever worked for. Ever in fact she doesn't she. I've been behind the curtain. There's no deceit. There's no. I mean not only. Is there no deceit. She didn't even understand the seat when when the seat comes her way confuses her she doesn't get it So the fact that she treated everybody so nicely and so well over time I think really is is almost equity. She's trading on now And that's people want to help because she's she's so genuinely nice. It was in this. Why she's still my friend. Look a lot of guys that did a lot of great work for justin. Tuck david robinson on a corner cova steffi graf michael chang these and these are wonderful people I like them. But they're not my friends Only jeanette is is. Do i consider my friend and i think vice versa. You mentioned that. She's undergoing her. Second round of chemo and the yesterday. She's not spending her days scrolling through facebook to see these responses but she knows about them. Right i keller. That has to means something to her. It just happened. Started really happening full-bore yesterday bike so i'm sure it does. I'm sure it does. She hasn't seen she hasn't seen the notes yet from people She's you know she's got some I- i warned earns. He didn't listen to me on this one. I told her to get a new phone number because her phone. Everybody knows her phone ever texts should be. It just blew up Because as soon as people heard about the news they wanted to reach out. They wanted to console. They wanted to help And it's it's been. It's been what i expected what happened. It's been kind of I've got people at the highest level of sport helping us do this Pushing pushing stuff out people. People's spn are helping people in sports business journal or helping. Not just billiards folks. The people the general sports public Is helping as well. Well in ginette was june. That was was the only p player that i know of that truly did cross over into that through espn. But that's that's where i help. Yeah of her relationship with bass. Pro shops is for billions player is groundbreaking to have a relationship with a non billiards company. That lasted five years. Six years as a as an endorser. That's amazing but canadian club and others. That were out there. She did some others but yeah she was. The only person i thought was really a sports. icon Maybe even cultural icon at least to some degree But i've always had. This thought my head. Mike that The builders is a niche activity. There's no question about that But the people that play are very art. I must say that too But i thought. I've always thought that the bill the general sports public only has enough room sort of collective memory bank for one billiard celebrity generation. And what was minnesota fats gateway to to Really mosconi gave to a little bit. Steve ms rat wife. Kids is because the commercial And then but nobody's replaced jeanette sense the nfl next one and nobody's replaced her yet. A question that that i have for you is if you were if you were in an elevator with a seventeen year old player male female and you know they seem to be well-spoken. They had the ability and they wanted to be that next genetically. What would you tell them. Practice real hard. 'cause you without the winning it doesn't matter either. You can have all that flashing dashing good looks you want you have the wonderful nickname you can be on. Espn if you're not a champion. It doesn't count. The first part is being really good at what you do. The rest of it comes second. That's the that's the difference between sports. Entertainment you can be a mediocre singer and be a massive star spears but the In sport you have to win tom. I hadn't really thought of asking you this before. But i wouldn't be fair if i didn't you know we have. We have players in the game today and after hours matches. We've talked about it after hours action. You know it's part of the game and and jeanette jeannette was was derby city. She she was part of that to How how do you talk to your players. How do you talk to the people that you represent be they jeanette or i'm a phoenix suns fan. I hate to even say this. David robinson How do you talk to them about all. Okay okay chris yeah now there you go. I mean they understand. They're always on camera there. There isn't a time when they're able to let their hair down and really just enjoy themselves. But how do you prepare a player for. Always being on camera i impossible. It's impossible could prepare them. They're too young mostly. Usually usually it takes something to happen. Some of them get it But i remember. I had this one young man And and A friend of his posted pictures of him and this athlete And the price of poker has gone up so much with the advent. Both social media and with Cell phones at do video and picture. I mean that's that's that's the price of poker way up when that happened. All you have to do is talk to michael phelps about the famous long. It's and then you know you are really always on. But this guy had pictures on the website of on his facebook page of a party in the girls looked a little of well. Perhaps of ill repute possible. Look that way. I said dude. You can't be doing that just because you're not famous he is. You can't post pictures of him like that. Take him down Because you don't take this. I have another athlete. Come up to me and said you know. I think i'm going to do Twitter i said well that's okay dude. That finding new twitter if you why are you doing it. He said i want everybody else is doing well. Okay on the. Here's my advice to you whenever you post something on twitter or on facebook or wherever you're going to post it just pretend they you sitting in the new york giants pressroom and every member of the press is sitting there watch Taking the everywhere. Downright because i don't know who will follow you. But i know those guys will and anything you right. On social media as public domain they can use it And that particular athlete chose not to do it at least for the time being at the time. Now that i'm not doing it because you the price of poker does go way way. Way up and there's Before i mentioned ginette never let you down. We never had to worry about that kind of stuff with her. There is no negative. there is no Backfill you know. We do a lot in crisis management in our business some of its some of its Nobody's fault some of is guys acting badly. And you have to help mitigate it but you know it. Does you know if you if you're selling your image. That means somebody else bought it If they bought it with certain expectations that you as the seller need to meet and and that's clicked. We tried to give our athletes like media training and that kind of stuff when we would. I recruit them as eighteen. Nineteen twenty twenty one twenty two year old adults but kids And invariably the one who didn't need it the ones who took it and the ones you need it. The most ever wanted to do it. Yeah i could see that. And i could also see spending a tremendous amount of time in crisis management. That's gotta be brutal. We were lucky because of the way we presented ourselves and the way we ran herself as a company and we use. The word should a lot And so we had a really high caliber people. I mentioned chris. Paul I'm david robinson. These are very high. Michael chang you do that for a while. They're very high caliber people so we didn't have as much as other people have but you always have some And when when does its negative energy. It takes a ton of time. You don't you know you're just it's a ton of work and i'm glad we didn't have to do tons of it But you have to do some. The michael phelps thing as i mentioned and You know we ever others But fortunately not it was not a constant barrage for us and that was that was a blessing well again. I'd like to remind people of the go funding. I mean that's the primary reason that we're doing the interview today. The link will be in the show notes and the go fund me is not is. This is not your your you see. Somebody go funnies pool world in its you know. Such and such a player wants to play this tournament so donate money. This is this is for genetic three daughters and the support that you've seen so far has been huge but certainly you're looking for more. Yeah we're looking for big basically saying trust and so it's more like an endowment so that money should last that money should take care of them or what they're Situation is after judah pass if she doesn't pass but but don't take care of their their their general being and their college education and that's what the trust is going to be Set up to do and by the way if they don't You can the link is too big for me to say out loud. Our wouldn't make any sense to anybody. But if you just go to fund me dot com and punching gently into the search bar. It comes up perfect. okay tom. I know how busy you are. You know we had to reschedule this interview. I appreciate you taking the time. And you're doing a great thing and we're all going to send our our best thoughts to ginette and and she's gonna kick this things ask just like she did if anybody can be can do it. She's the amount of resolve. I've seen this resolved before nyc and so of you And you know it's a. It's a tougher opponent but Hey if the spirit's will in maybe the flesh will be strong enough she is. I wanna thank you very much for doing this. Mike and i hope things go as well as we can hope. All right sounds good tom. I appreciate your time and we will talk to you soon. Thank you buddy all right. That was tom sad news. But it's not. It's not the end of the match. Ginette is going to fight this and i'm not a religious man so i'm not gonna say you know god is going to look out for anything like that. It's just not who i am. But what i will say is in fighting something like this. The biggest ammunition you can have is positively and the belief that you can beat it and if there is anyone in the world who has the belief that they can beat. Anything is genetically from what tom says. She's fighting it with all of her strength. And i think her strength in addition to the support of all of her millions of fans out there inside and outside of the pool industry that she is going to do everything she can to like. I said in the interview. Tom kick this things ass. And i'm looking forward to it. So that is this week's episode The next episode that you will get on the it up network will be from nick over at chaka's cheap. Nick is interviewing calvin post. He is the owner operator of. Cjp billiards they make chalk holders training equipment that sort of thing So that will be an episode coming up from nick. Within the next couple of days and that will be on the qaeda network. But as for this show this was american billiard radio. I m not mr bond. I could never fill mister bonds shoes. I'm simply doing what i can to continue what he started. And dave. we're always thinking about you.

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Your new, and returning, Womens World 9-Ball Champion

Pool Podcasts

31:45 min | 1 year ago

Your new, and returning, Womens World 9-Ball Champion

"Hello Hello everyone and welcome back to American build radio. Today is Saturday December twenty eighth and we've had quite a bit transpire in the billiard world old since the last show has usual team. USA are once again. The MOSCONI Cup champions I could talk on and on about about their win and what it meant and how it came together really anyone who didn't watch it and even if you did. I highly recommend the story. That's in billiards digest. This month you can also read it on their website at billiards digest dot com. My Panova wrote A great story that I think sums up the event much better than I could besides that we have a returning and a brand new world nine double champion Kelly Fischer is your women's world nine ball champion. That's the second world nine championships. She has in her career along with many other world championships and fate or Gorst is your men's world nine ball champion. This week's show is an interview with Kelly Fisher. We talk about her recovery from open. Heart Surgery Problems she found in her stroke and how she worked on getting past that and her recovery and and we also talked about sponsors a little bit as she has some great sponsors out of China. I did get to sit down and have a short interview with fate or about Out His win but honestly the quality of the interview was really not that good and I don't think it was something that would have made it to the show very well. Well so I won't keep the listeners. Any longer I give you. Women's World Nine Ball champion Kelly Fisher very proud out now to be joined by our say women's world nine ball champion but you were already the women's world nine ball champion. I was as I was Many moons ago sure Kelly Fisher the he twenty twelve twenty twelve world. Nine ball champion correct. Yes Yes yes and twenty eleven world. Ten Ball champion. That's right Yep and most important twenty nine thousand nine women's world nine all champion. Tell me about that. That's the most important one as of right now anyway. Yeah No. I'm absolutely thrilled NYC Wasn't you know I always always knew I had in me but really didn't know the old our gain if it was going to happen again or not so just really chuffed and really really over the moon to have managed to polly off for for the fans who who aren't aware who haven't been following your career you you and I talked a couple of years ago you had open heart surgery. That's right a hole in your heart. Correct yes that found Elvis from birth at grew and grew but was never never never found as you know it just grew into uh what was to very large and on repairable any other way other than to actually have open heart surgery so when we talked about it back in two thousand fourteen. You had mentioned that. You suffered from heart palpitations. Ya not necessarily just when you were in a pressure situation but you had said that you had them at different times. Assume that's all gone. That's all behind you. Oh Yeah thank God yes yes Basically the populations would definitely from back from way two thousand nine live in the OP and austen. What kind of got more and more as time went on you know and I noticed and I notice the feeling of it was changed in so I kinda already gun for checks checks. Nothing was found and then eventually eventually the looked into it. Further and years later what notre sound found the whole. So that's all gone away now. sank Philippe and yet. I've my hot check still do have it periodically checked and everything is perfect. Better students have been so very thankful. They're lucky now when we had talked you had you had sounded real hopeful that after three or four months you get past the recovery and then you'd be right back where you were winning tournaments and you were player of the year there for a time. A that didn't happen though. What what what? What was your viewpoint on? What was happening while I mean you know I was doing alright but the some kind of glitch in my stroke that somehow appear to feel like after after the surgery which sounds sounds crazy but it was something not the same and I struggled to get my game back to where it once squalls relate to get really struggled at? It's only been this last year and a half. Maybe two years felt that such by coming back back And then I would say last year the I so I've been working very very hard on it and say this last year the assignment foul. I'm back if you like. I just totally within my stroke. You know you'll have to. You'll have to forgive. Maybe because as somebody who can't make a ball I can go to any instructor and they can say look. You're strokes a mess. Here's how you fix it. But we're world champion. Go to find out that they're strokes a little off. Well first of all I could feel it within myself You know that was first and foremost I could feel it within myself and I kind of knew what was what what was wrong but how to fix it was a whole new thing. Thanks and I went off. We save up. My coach. Lionel pain is actually been my coach since day. One even though is a professional snooka coach first and foremost and that's where we started twenty seven years ago ahead towards point twenty eight years ago He's been you know he knows my stroke he knows my game inside the now and Mentally mechanically as always out. And even when I transitioned to so I went to him of course straightaway and a woman working like and I don't mean what he was saying was wasn't working. I couldn't get it fixed. Basically my strokes always been quiet short stroke but it got to a point where I really struggling to touch the pull back. It was like You've heard of Q itis or you. You know and with often they pull back and at the polls at the back they count like go to go forward mine was the opposite from the polls initially when you stop at the cue. You Ball. Couldn't pull back before I wanted to go forward too quickly and it was just No my try different strategies. Try I together when it come under pressure. It was still too quick but it was impossible. Quick you know it was like crazy as a So that told me a long time realtor to feel that we just kept working on working on it. I also spent a few days way Johan the American Mosconi Cup coach. I got him over for a few days. And just twelve is is in an e work together with my coach just to to try and put it together to come up with the new and basically after that we just kept I just worked with my coach Lionel and it was basically putting a long time and and just putting the law of hours into try and fix fix that. I can pull the ball you now and I can get position. I know I'm doing but the problem was when you've got this problem. Stroke is the pressure you just lose that control. Whether it's you miss pops that you shouldn't miss all you lose a Cuba and they just weren't good enough so it's taught me a lot hard work miano both a lot hot work to really to to get it back and I'm just really pleased that I've managed to do that. You you mentioned the you could feel the problem with your stroke. Is it the sort of thing where you call or or you visit with your coach and you say look. I know I've got this problem. I just don't know how to fix it. Well I'd send I mean when I lived in America all I could do a seven videos but now I'm back in the the UK. I actually come up to me a few times. I've been down to see him and in between all vibe. Numerous phone calls and multiple video sent talk. You know so basically a lot of just chattan just together point heads together trying to working away to actually fix the problem And I don't know what in the end to be honest we don't know exactly what did fix it All whether it would just point practicing trying different strategies and eventually just feeling and finding the again still room for improvement Mike. I do know that within Maestro. Yes absolutely there's still room for improvement. Breasts you know. I do know that it's back to. It's good old sells more or less ninety percent. I'm Oh you I'm fascinated with the idea of having a coach for twenty seven years is that is that sort of thing common with the top level. Let's say top level ladies and well I won't say for that long. No because most of them are playing right now on top level of not even twenty seven. So Oh you know you Chen Su men in your new. I think they are only around. Twenty six twenty seven Max anyway but no minds mainly because of the slipped eh from SNOOKA. I was very fortunate. My parents got me a coach more or less from day. One and Renault only just Coach agent student relationship with Very close friends like family anyway so Even in America we still were on the phone. And what together. Some very lucky to have him. So you figure out that you've got this problem with your stroke and you work with your coach coach. You work with Johan and you think you've got it figured out you know like you said you were having some good finishes you had a second place here through bliss take you and you one occasionally but it didn't seem like you could get over the Hump and win the Big One. But then you had a breakthrough last month. Got It yeah I did a Do we PBA event. And I knew even less she had. I mean I got to a final of China planned and and I got to a fine live the UN event And in both of them you know I'm I could feel the difference. It is a different you can go into tournament of a great result and felt that you play terrible. All you played eight percent of Yogi more. You know you can feel that all you can lose for you know. Second round in the semis or quarters and feel like you know that you playing really well And I would say even lashes will championships lost in the quarters to the eventual winner. Nine eight but I knew I will play him. While under my game will back anew Mastro box so fell to awesome improving over the last two years if not the last year for sure and the results on new would come and I and that's one thing the line will kept saying to mass keep pointing the time. Keep what can improve stroke and the results will come So it's just really about that. Good old Madonna was so go back to the drawing board. You know an go back to what you have to do when you fight in the gym so basically sin L.. Come eventually Ramesh Table You. You mentioned seeming and Han you and really only for the last couple of years probably not coincidentally during the time when you were recovering and you had this this small glitch in your stroke stroke those who players kind of were the top of the top of the field. You know they were. They were winning everything. How do you come back and stay ahead of players like that? Well I mean you know that the standard of play now is in especially over in Asia as as gone to a next level to be on this view this thirteen euros fifteen fifteen-year-olds a break in and running fun and you know the standard as increased immensely so and it's always going to keep increasing seles. That's good the game evolving but to stay there. That's another thing as you get older of course I suppose in a good way knowing that my game went down two percent on nowhere near when I did the glitch and didn't feel good to buy everything there. Were still running still running alongside them. I went went like I knew that I will lose into them but I would also beat them them in some tournaments too so I knew I was still abound about that. That gave me personally the confidence that if I did fix this and did put the hours in in and did get my game back up to that next level what it was before that would still be still be that with that. So that will remain focused really I never were in doubt up. Plenty of rephrase. I was giving delighted never in doubt but Once you start feeling a game combat coma stroke coming back and seeing that feeling the difference than I did. I believe in myself to be able to win any tournament but in nine ball. You know you're GONNA nowadays really get somebody domineering so much Tennessee. Men Set Somme House done that the last two three years. And that Sir that you know a a a great feat in itself I mean. It's tough now with so so many great players now but a totally different level than ten years ago for example. It's tough it's tough and you mentioned the level of play in Asia you Maybe more so than any other player that I think the American fans Are that familiar with you. Spend a lot of time over in Asia competing tournaments. How often do you think you go over there? Awhile I must. I mean I've worked out. It must be about three months. A year Spending over may be ten tournaments. Let's say if not more sometimes But yes I do. Spend a lot of time over that simply because Matt sponsors Chinese table Q.. New Bowl sponsors of the slave originally from China So I do. Exhibitions do promotions for them and obviously the tournament style play. And that's to be honest with you. Mike in the last hour of many few years most of the events but without for women have all been over there. Jerry had made a comment a couple years ago when he and I have been talking that the future of at least the future of the women's game was was in China. Does it feel that way. I mean is that where the top players are going to be coming from for the foreseeable future. Well I hope not and what I mean by that is I want to see the Western world issue like produce in that level and you're ages and inspired our use nice to to certainly get get you know. Get their kids involved. The keep the spot grow in. We need dot in any spoil. I think thanks so but certainly for exam for example a few years ago some say the future in China and it has been that I do feel now that we've got a lot more Europeans coming through into the last of Last week we had I think sixteen twenty Europeans Pin splaine in it and I could see the improvement standard as improved for the European players. So I'm hoping that We're GONNA see more events in Europe in America I do know the Doobie. PBA A certainly growing and emotive mode to be PBA events which is fantastic. The the new ball that we have really long time. And and we're GONNA have a lot more events. is already increased just from previous years and next year. The calendars looking good. So I'd like to see tournaments all over the world like Rather than old just being in China or just being in America. I think it's good to all over the world for the spot to grow and that will also grow the the standard of play not just in them countries says you know then. We'll see a standard growth across the world. You mentioned the the up and coming players. The the Christina to Koch's watches of the world the the European ladies that are are moving up the ladder but surprisingly it. Was You and Jasmine in the finals of the world. Nine Paul All. You've got to be familiar with her game. Absolutely I mean I play. Jasmine in the shut likes are in the tournament before in Where we do events in Wisconsin yet and You know Jasmine's game suddenly she I would. I met you know these last few years. She hasn't done as well as she'd hoped. However we all know that a game? She's got such a fighter and she's got a high level of cost a very high level of play but she just didn't produce the results that she'd been. I'm looking for either the tone in America. She did really while the previous tournament. IMMI UN should really well off. And so I think she finding form again as well But this event she played old way through the event she had some tough matches and on some close matches but she managed to dig in that impulsive through them and then she will play great toward the end. Death Same for me. I played great great throughout the tournament didn't have so much close matches Until the final really. We're both of his. I mean we're we're so copy that we had to to Europeans in the final The last time knock and I wrote on My facebook Rustam was the year two thousand when Julie Kellyanne alien current call was in the final Angela. Kelly one Let alone to say the last time we had a European. The final women's world championships was when I went in two two thousand twelve that not been final within a European since then so be on Jasmine and it was you know every an older European capital. You know all very happy about that. So Jasmine's a fighter anew if I didn't play while the Justice Sir I to play as good as anybody of course And we both want today with so much heart and so much passion that death unfortunately. Fortunately Standard of the the final wasn't the best but I think you pure pure Hatton we just both wanted it too much butler dustin playing great throughout the week. You mentioned you mentioned that part of the reason that you're in China so much achieve your sponsors you want to give a quick shout out to those sponsors yeah that would be great. Thank you my first. Sponsor is sh inge way tables bulls on basically they have They do a wide range of snooka Chinese pool. An American pool tables At Beijing China and that growing she as well. aspires the company size and across the world. So they become. I'm very fortunate to have them. And they soundly made a great table and You know I'm hoping to continue a future with them. They're very happy. Happy with my results. Very very than next I've got fury cues and everybody knows that from one hour in America with a long long time since toot since I have come to sure America Ashley Two Thousand and Full I've been with fuel recuse. I was They should confess sponsor with them that distributors in the the franchise in America and then I ended up getting taken on by the the main boss. If you're like in China and they stood with me through thick and thin through my surgeries Nelson Everson south. I'm very happy to be that team and make great cycles and pull rick a few recused so I saw all I can really say about that and I hope to continue a long term relationship continue our long term relationships You know with them. And then my said sponsors Syklla Poo bowls of Musket few years now and as as we know them well in America to you've got a bowl sponsor for many tournaments across the world and they grew rapidly over the last few years and Yeah very happy and thankful to all three of them because without without the sponsors this is nearly impossible. Oh absolutely I mean. It's nice to have those sponsors long-term I know some of the even top females. Well men struggle for any kind of sponsorship. Yeah that's right I mean again. We lost things being in China on me being in to being China A lot just is to be able to get sponsors and and obviously keep them happy Bouncing always I will do my best for my sponsons insist on you know afraid to the best for me. We can work together for a long long time. And I've been very lucky to have to have met such great sponsors and I keep that relationship going. It's tough out there to get sponsors is very tough to get good sponsors Some I'm very lucky and thankful so you mention the time that you spend in Asia and the time that you spend keeping those sponsors happy there has sometimes sometimes been a feeling mostly with the male players that the the schedule forgetting sponsorship is he. Is You convinced the company to sponsor you you put their patch on your shirt and then you're done and really all you have to do is just keep winning tournaments and then they lose those sponsors and wonder why but you have you have kept these sponsors through all these years what what can a top player due for a sponsor besides making balls with their patch on. Yeah I mean you know unfortunately away just a logo On streamed matches TV matches. Erna is not going to do enough for you. Sponsors wants us you know I think now of course being a different era we've got the social media you've really got to do a quite a bit on social media free responses houses including myself to a mall I actually do is something to I'm now starting to involve mall way. You know you promoting you a sponsor's Whether it's basically just talking about equipment all whether you're actually during some kind of videos using equipment and You know just pushing them that way. But over the years after the law of exhibition matches where for example sample. I'll do challenges and they can win Russell's Russell tickets for Q. Aw Aw I sell the products at the the shows that I do and you know again just create the interest of of them particular brands. I also in China do law of promotional things by traveling around to that de las port nominee exhibition. Or we're just mutant that dealers and going for dinner This things like for example During some photographing autographing photos made up. And instead of just being your photo may show you responses on that and that logos goes and it's just a multitude of of of waste to involve them in your career as opposed to just using them you know is it's involving them being than being part of you would say so any promotion you do for yourself in any way is making sure your sponsors of that With you throughout throughout all that any kind of media things like what we're doing right now down to a newspaper down to a interview for TV or just Stephen a magazine interview. You know. You've got a mention them in. You've got to really push push them in every way you can like I said as much as you promote yourself you Komo melt them with you okay. You're you're taking a break right now. You're you're back home for the holidays. How long will you get to you? Relax without having to think about pool tournaments well right now. I'm not the next tournament I know of is going to be a much so I've got quite a bit of time but however Journa- not three months if you like I also teach and and I teach in Hong Kong Trained in Hong Kong national team So I plan to be going out there two of the January February spending a few weeks with the national team. They're training their their elite retain which actually at the moment and I think his current world champion is the Junie will. Champion is one of the kids. That and the other one's certainly the runner up So they've got a great team of players great standard an I go out there and train them for a couple of weeks and see if I can give them some of my old wisdom. If you're like well I'm glad you're getting a chance chance to relax a little bit and enjoy your Third World Championship night. You've you've one snooker World Championships Avenue. Yes managed to win six of them and I also won them the three times two or three times. I One d leads. The English English billiards World Championships. Can Yeah slow. Well Kelly. I appreciate you taking a little bit of time from your your holidays to to talk to his big congratulations on the win. I can't think of well. I'm sure there's other players who can but I can't think of a more deserving the world champion for right now while I really appreciate that my like Assam shift a bit and Really thrilled to manage to pull that off. And so thank you so much and I appreciate all the funds out there and appreciate all the support. Everybody gives us an You it doesn't go missed and I wish everybody a happy holiday. Merry Christmas and look forward to twenty twenty and we can keep on improving moving on on two thousand nineteen results. Will you said you were at ninety. Percents you've got you've got ten percent to go yet and I'm going to go for that I really am. I going to get back on the practice table after the new year and hopefully by March can be gearing up. That's going to be the Chinese. He's eight bull world championships. So fingers crossed that seth while not not one. I'm a big mess. My goal to win that one. I'll be gearing up for the bat sell. That will be lovely all right. Well you have a great holiday and if we don't talk to you before then. Good luck at the Chinese eight ball world championship chip. Thank you very much and everybody else have a great holiday you to Mike. Thanks Kelly thank you okay. That was your women's world time champion. Kelly Fisher I appreciate her taking some time to to sit down and talk with us. Hopefully we will have another a show within the next week or so. I'm I'm not sure who that guest will be but I will work on getting that put together. I WANNA thank everybody for listening ope. Everybody has a great new year's holiday holiday and Dave we are always thinking about you aw.

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Supercharged Pool

Pool Podcasts

43:52 min | 1 year ago

Supercharged Pool

"Welcome back to American billiard radio. Today is Thursday March thirteenth. Personally I'm going back and forth between following the Diamond Las Vegas Open on. Cbs ON DEMAND DOT COM and watching the number of events in tourist attractions announced. They're closing due to the covert nineteen virus. As of today the World Pool Masters the Bucharest Open and this weekend's Predator pro-am tour stop are either cancelled or postponed the super billiards expo and the US Open are still on at this moment. But they both said they're monitoring the situation. Allan Hopkins is supposed to be making a decision early next week. That is based on an announcement that was made on the Super Billiards Expo website. As for the interview for this show I ran a story on easy billiards a couple of weeks ago called pools spin doctor and it was about per Haagen. Who had a an agency where he was representing professional poker players and he closed that agency down and now he's trying to duplicate that effort for professional pool. I thought it was a very interesting article and thought per would be a great interview subject so I had a chance to talk to him about his ideas about pool and how to promote and how to make things better and and I do think it's a very interesting conversation so without further ado. I give you per. Haagen joined now all the way from Norway by its per Haagen right correct okay per is. The owner of an agency called supercharged. And if you if you haven't read the article yet which you should go back and do supercharged is an agency that represents not just pool players. It looks to me and you can correct me if I'm wrong but pool players and other parts of the billiards industries can you. Can you explain a little bit? What it is you do and how you got there. Sure Mike Well OUR AGENCY. Basically has two divisions sounds. Sounds like we're a big big agency would not just a couple of couple of actually with three people So one of the divisions is player management's And we take the experience from the poker industry? We had a good run into poker industry in the early. Two thousand until two thousand six So what we do is that we make sure that we find good ambassadors for In this case the billiard brands We make sure that you know we find good candidates that can represents their brands in the way that they want and get the exposure that they kind of deserve because right now We see kind of similar Symptoms as in the poker industry had early. That was where were kind of throwing good money officer not necessarily the best ambassadors And so that's one part of the agency and the other is kind of general marketing specializing in online marketing And we try to of course connect the two together So yeah now you said that you came over from the poker world What what differences in. What similarities do you see between the poker world and the pool world right now well me start with the differences I think that's obviously poker. Everybody knows Fokker had massive price pools at least compared to The two main reasons for that is obviously the cost of buying into the big poker tournaments thousands of dollars main events. The World Series is ten thousand so And obviously that is one of the reasons but also share number offense in the in big poker tournaments that kind of build a big price for But also I think it's possible for pool to to get much much bigger priciples compared to today. But obviously then you would. You'd have to raise the entry fees and Do that obviously. Not a whole lot of people would be willing to pay. You know thousand two thousand dollars to play in the pool tournaments when you're playing against some best plays in the well so maybe you should look into what vice the traffic from. Fokker. And that's satellites Ninety percent of all the participants in the big poker tremendous state. They they hail from satellite tournaments being both on and offline. Obviously we call them play pool tournaments Who Online but I think that's as a replacement or maybe as an addition to the weekly tournaments you can find a way of wrestling tournaments which basically operates as satellites into the big Tournaments and Then maybe we could have like entry fees being a couple of thousands of dollars that would also obviously race builds the price fall into much much higher price than we have today making it easier for the professionals to make actually a decent living compatriots dates. They you know they have to be in the semi-finals it's almost break-even And that's the way it should be So that's obviously one of the big big big differences between Pool Poker and pool And obviously poker has way more airtime on mainstream media the pool That's something that we need to do but for us to get back on mainstream media We need to look at the the professionalism in the whole industry and I'm obviously not criticizing anybody but maybe we need to put finger in the ground and and take a look at what we're doing and why you know sports like team sports than the and those kind of sports we'll get way more airtime than compared to Pretty sure that people have more people have played pool. Then played around with timber. Sports so So that's one of the things and also you know again. I'm not criticizing anybody. But in the poker industry we get we have a law of personalities with with you know big characters that creates an interest from the audience well defined. Sushi will So I think also in pool perhaps. Maybe we're kind of lacking there. Maybe we should have you know we. We've got a few personalities which are interesting to watch but maybe you know the pool players they should you know kind of Give more of themselves when they're playing tournaments which are televised so streams. I mean show more emotion than maybe we should you know. Try to adopt every twenty. They should be more like the Mosconi Cup with with audience cheering and the players jumping on the table. We need to make the sport way more interesting than it is today for the audience. If the mainstream media is more airtime we need you know right now. Plays can spend two minutes on the shots and you know. That's not interesting for for for a new tool spectator so we should have like shot. Clocks interesting players Audience cheering and east kind of seeing. That's you know that's pretty. Typical for poker but in pool is almost like a cemetery when you were when you watch the much. How do and I'm I'm sorry to compare your your in Norway. So you're looking at European players where I'm more familiar with American players. What it that you think the Americans or why is it that you think the Americans struggle with the idea of of putting their character out there some of them don't but you're like you said the majority of them don't well? I think I'm first of all. I don't think that this is big enough that we can look at it in a segregated way that I think that we need to look at the sport as a whole is not like you have the Asian markets Marican and European. I think as a whole I think we're lacking in you know personalities whether it's you know german-american Filipino. Doesn't really matter to me because sports is so small we have to look at it as a whole I I'm not quite sure why of we don't have more interesting characters but I definitely think that's the ones today who are at a certain level where they travel the world and play tournaments. They should take a look at them. South maybe you know. Kind of gave more of themselves in interviews when playing matches and These kind of things because you have to be an interesting character to get followers and followers. It's you know it's the name of the game if you if you to get sponsored You need to how followers otherwise you're just visible when you're paying a fee table which doesn't happen all the time and you're absolutely not guaranteed to make it to the final so So you have to. You have to get followers and they have to work out every single day At least you have. You need a structured way of building your followers. So maybe you're not you know the world's best player but you might be the world's most interesting player and that kind of built a base of followers and as soon as you reach a certain level of followers you will be interesting for sponsors because then you'll have tangible numbers you've got ten thousand followers you know one million likes lost year. That's kind of tangible. And that's something that sponsors interested in putting money into because they know what they're going to get in return. It's interesting that you talk about the social media aspect of things. Do you think maybe and again I don't. I don't want to just say American players because I think I think there are players like this all over the world. Do you think maybe some of the players don't want to have their life out there. Twenty four seven. They don't want a sponsor contacting them and saying you know that thing that you tweeted last night at two. Am when you were at the club with your friends. That didn't Cheyne row well on you and then that means it didn't shine role on us. I mean do you think some players just they're not ready for that kind of flash light being shined at their life. Oh absolutely I mean for sure. There's no doubt that Being sponsored pro automatically yours spokesperson. You are in the basketball. For Brown's that's not for everybody We had a couple of you know polka place. Which were you know? Had Lot of tens of thousands of followers they were always you know Out there in spotlight. But they didn't want to get any sponsorship money they they would rather just pay everything themselves because like you said that being an ambassador comes with God you have to do certain things in return. And they didn't want to do that they just wanted to focus on you know in in case their own poker game and but. I'm not sure it's fair to compare because these guys than one you know three four five six million dollars so they can. Actually they can afford going around and paying everything themselves. But I think that's the general pool player would very much like to play way more tournaments the big ones than they actually are doing and one way is obviously having sponsor but As as we all know you have to give something in return to his sponsor and that's what I eat today. That's you know. Lack of a better word. I guess kind of annoyed when I see some sponsors are giving you know good sponsorship money And deals to players doing absolutely nothing in return and it kind of you know these companies. They are all other aspects of their business. They're always thinking about the return on their investments. Whether it's you know buying equipment for their new factory or whatever But suddenly when it comes to sponsorship it seems all all logic about return on investment is thrown out the window and they don't you know they they seem pretty okay with there's sponsored players just wearing a patch when they're playing at a TV TV table or you know doing very short social media posting once in a while and tagging them and and that's pretty much what they do and that's in my opinion that's not that's not a good return on the on the investment and they get way more back if they just you know focused on actually looking at it as a business relationship between us the company and you the the Boston order spokesperson They should and that's what we did with poker all so we could see that a lot of p players were getting you know pretty decent amount of money every year to go all over the world and played the poker tournaments but they weren't doing anything back besides wearing their local The that's that's why I initially started the poker agency because I could see that. There's there's a gap and we could fill it's We pretty much took off during our first year of business because the sponsors they could see that by using us as a as a bridge between the players in the market and themselves they would get way better return on investments and they play with some of the all over the media. They would do social media stuff and and doing interviews with an all flying media outlets and all this and so it wasn't no brainer so in the end Actually we didn't have to chase the sponsors the sponsors they came to US asking. Listen we will like to strengthen our position in France. Can you find a good candidates? We can sponsor in France and obviously we already have a French player in our roster affairs. So he could just over like okay. So here's this guy. You San many of these many followers. He's doing this and that so it's a it's a it's a no brainer and they just you know. Accept the that player because they knew that's Whenever we percents candidates from they knew they would get. We could return on their investment packing. That's what we're slowly trying to do now in the pool industry and I can see that some Well the interview was just a few weeks ago. I basically just started the agency like two months ago and off the interview like you see a lot of players contacting US asking if we can represent them and also couple of brands within the industry also asking you know we need help Both on general marketing but also with thinking about you know what should we do with our sponsored pros? How can we get more return? And and all of these things that we kind of specialize in and So we're trying to working with a couple of brands son Just you know a player while. He's not a player in competitions. But he's maybe you know the world's most famous curious and we just signed him to the agency because he you know he. He liked what he heard in our Negotiations if you will so That's what we're trying right now is to make the billion industry see. That's okay. We can get away better return on investment and maybe you know maybe we don't need a bit sponsored players. Maybe we need just twenty. Great wants that will give way better again. Return on the investments we're trying to kind of like make their attitude toward starts. That's train of thoughts again. This is gonNA sound beating a dead horse and believe me when I say this. I'm not I'm not. Comparing American and European players like it sounds like him as an example though European players there and I mentioned it because American fans maybe aren't as familiar with the the the one B priority players. I mean they know Ralph they know torsten they know Mika they know Joshua they know excellent you could make a list of probably twenty guys that are the absolute top but last year at the International. Max lechner comes over. He has a great tournament. American's probably don't know him. So if if if I were a Max. Leshner a year ago and I hadn't had a great tournament. I hadn't beat Shane in a major event. What can I do to to make those sponsors be interested in me because you know yeah I can run a table but so can the guy at the table next to me and so can the girl two tables over? So so what can a player due to put themselves out there and draw sponsor interest sure and. I totally get where you're calling me from you know let me just take one example and You know he's he's Greek but he lives in Norway and he actually played at the same club. as being also Domino's the jump Master Yell at Office. Hope I'm pronouncing that correct Anyway so he's you know he's. He's a Greek living in both Greece and Norway. Anyway he's you know. He was struggling with exactly what you said. How can I put myself out there? And that was like a year year and a half ago and I got to know him and he learned about my history about you. Know being a manager Having Agency for poker players and I said listen the methods I is is just the same and let's sit down together and make kind of like marketing plan for you. How can you know the world can get the world's eyes on me and so we did a plan and he is probably the hardest working guy when it comes to these things in the entire Pool Industry so it did what we would be agreed that he should do and kind of took it like Like a part time job. I'm going to produce videos. I'm GONNA do this. I'm going to do that Sunday. You know we he lost here. He accumulated over two million views on his videos The halfway through there. We got him a sponsor That's basically entirely just because we made the marketing plan he did the work produced videos and He got attention and it doesn't hurt that he's probably one of the best players with the short steak as well And he travels not so now basically travels all over the world place tournaments because he he got the great sponsorship deal and And that is the direct result. Not because he finished like third a couple of times in the euro tour and and he won a couple of international tournaments here in Europe. Not because because he made himself you know interesting and it's something. He got a lot of followers and he always makes it a point to interact with the followers. So he's posting something He gets you know a bunch of replies and he always rip replies to the answers and the questions and whatever on his posting so he's always on top of it and so his fanbase if you if you can call it that they kind of feel connected to him. So whenever he recommends product from you know a couple of sponsors now so they. He's built trust with them and And he can show them. Listen with this. I'm using on my jump. Cue I can make the jump shots and so can you. You know that's employed you know but That's a direct result of his hard work. And actually it's not. It's not not much work if we have to be on this compared to a lot for the jobs And it's basically doing what you love as well so he doesn't view it as work But so so he he was really thankful and I was thrilled for him. That he got the sponsors and It just goes to show that the methods that we proven methods from the Polk Institute. And it's not magic but it just it's just a matter of making a plan and you know going through with it and then it's up to the talent or D- in this case the the player to actually go ahead and you know do what she's supposed to do and that's the main problem. I see today with four players that they have sponsors but very rarely you'll see them do in return they do something but not nearly enough. Not even ten percents what they actually should so so And obviously there's GonNa be pooled players listening here who scotus sponsor or maybe a video six months ago and things. That's you know that's that's okay. I did something return. He's not GonNa like what I'm saying. But I'm basically interested in making the Bill Brown understanding that they should have ambassadors. Who actually does something in return? So they'll make money at least break even from the particip- and the players they can have a long term sponsorship relationship with those sponsors because they you know they appreciate each other not. Just give me some money. Give me some equipment Once you've gotten that zero basically you don't do anything in return. These kind of players need to be cut from the PRO teams. You know they might get a second chance or whatever but if you're not doing it today probably not GonNa do it tomorrow and So they they don't serve the sponsorship money or equipment or whatever they get if they don't do anything in return and it just taking up space for the players since actually willing to put into extra work and Repay the love they get from the sponsors the way you describe it and I would be in complete agreement It seems like the mentality now is. I'm a pool player. I'm going to put in my effort. Well I mean there's not it's not like they actively go out there banging on doors trying to find sponsors but it come. It seems that when they do get a sponsor or two they feel that okay. My my work is done. I've I've gotten a sponsor but the way you describe it really there's there's even more work a higher level of work that is required once you have that sponsor. This is something the goes back to a conversation. I had with Kelly Fisher and she talked about everything that she does for her sponsors but is that I mean. Is that kind of where you're going. Where you know the level of work really kicks off once you get those sponsors. I mean I. If you're if you're an aspiring talents you know like Max. You mentioned him And I think that's fair. Door was in this category almost just one year ago but you see he won the world championship nine ball. But I think that if you're an expiring talent looking to professionalize Yourself and your brands in this sport and you WanNa reach as far as you can go. You know you have to go to first goal should be making the Mosconi Cup team. Whether you're European or American I should be like the main goal and then obviously in between you you need to finish high into tournaments. The big ones son obviously the local ones as well. But I should be like your top goals but to to get there. You need a lot of money in a lot of funding and If you don't have any sponsors you'd still do what downloads it do. All the good work put in the extra hours get followers and then when you bang on the doors for sponsors they will see that for the last half year guy. He's like a million views. It's much easier to put money into something that compared to okay. Listen so I finished ninth in the. Us Open sponsorship. Money please I've got like three hundred friends on facebook and you don't even you know that's that's just ridiculous to think that you're going to get even free you know whatever but that's kind of like the mentality of amongst a lot of full fares and it was inappropriate industry as well you know. You have one world series final table and suddenly you know. You're a big shot deserving under the solvency of sponsors money. That's not how it works. So if you don't have a sponsor just wake up tomorrow. Just make a plan get followers and You know make yourself interesting. You don't have to be the world's best player but you have to be interesting. You have to have a currency so if you've got a jump shots okay. Use that angles Can't think of any other examples fifty miles an hour break. Okay so use that as your thing but make yourself interesting get followers and then the sponsors will follow. But but you can't sit around the wait and after you get sponsored then you start. You have to start. You know right right now right tomorrow. If he wants to go down that route and once you get a sponsorship deal you have be prepared to put in a lot of work when I say a lot of work. I'm talking about fifteen twenty hours a week. That's not a lot of work but You have to be paid to do The work necessary to you. Pay again the love that the sponsors are showing you because otherwise would just in bad circle throwing money off the players and they not be paying it so the sponsor they won't increase their sales of ood and so it's basically state school and you don't Any positives relationships so Like Kelly said you definitely you have to if you WANNA sponsor yeah. I'm willing to put in the work. It's not enough just wearing a little patch and playing The occasional big tournaments and once in a while you hit the TV table and it's not. It's not enough by far so Just look at you know what the big soccer players or other big sports. What they're doing. I mean they're earning millions of dollars every year. They're still putting in a lot of work for the sponsors. Do you think that? Do you think that the players Su are are going to be accepting of the idea that they can go about their lives the way they do? And let's say they come on board with you and they've got a sponsor or two and you're working with them and they put something on social media. They especially in America. Social Media is where you post your opinion. Be It right or wrong. That's where you could argue about things. Do you think players are going to be open to the idea of the next day? Their phone ringing in you being you on the phone saying hey what are you doing? What was that? You can't do that? Yeah well no I. I don't I don't I don't think it you know. I don't think that's how it works. I basically we when we looked Sino player poker or in this case full fare. You know you know. We talked to the guy. We make our due diligence in advance like the is. Is there anything wrong with this candidates? Is He done anything shady earlier? Okay if kind of shows up we we won't. We won't sign him. We won't fight to help him get a sponsor Because that will only backfire on us. Route commending this guy or girl to a sponsor and then later on they will show up some dirt on this on this person so i. We tried to see that tried to identify. If this this person is you know would be a good ambassador for any brand once about you. Know we we we we talk to the player and we try to basically ask. Are you willing to put in the hours necessarily necessary for us to actually get you a sponsor because when if you signed with us and we go out there and and the shoot was sponsor and he in and they find you interesting and they signed you and you give you money or equipment or whatever If you don't live up to your end of the deal we're going to cut you immediately. Because that kind of backfired on US reflects back on weed becomes recommend terrible ambassadors. Once in a while you might get unlucky and somebody you know promises the world and don't deliver afterwards but it's kind of like the core of our business and we have to be Hudson short at the ambassador's where recommending to any sponsor will deliver X Y Z. Because that's that's all from the sponsor and we're asking for their money and we have to deliver our end of the deal. Once they sign off on the deal we've talked about poker and pool and and the differences between poker players and cool players. But you have said in the interview that was posted online that you see a lot of similarities. Can you talk about what the similarities are that you see between the two right sure and I think that I'll touch on Some of the similarities already. But I I can see that you know. Poker was booming in the early two thousand and I am and I can see. I'm not saying that. The pool is booming. Now but I I can see the similarities. The both had or had great potential growth and The mainstream media was and they were not sure how much airtime they should vote to. This new phenomenal poker. Which was booming and Because it was it was rather messy as well lacking in professionalism and yeah it wasn't like viewed as a very professional sport if you if you can called Poker Sports And I'm not saying that they don't view pool as professional sports now but I mean there's there's something going on. There's something wrong. Because you know we have this project Billiard twenty twenty four law of prominence you know Q. Ist from Snoop Group wound different divisions. And they were trying to get through accepted or accept that as one of sports in the Olympic Games. The Committee. They actually went ahead and they accepted break-dancing I think skateboard In a couple of other sports which are you know in my view their way smaller than than pool. So we'RE WE'RE DOING. We're doing something wrong Which we need to address it and I think that you know we need to have make it interesting. We need to have a shot clock to have a vivid audience. We need to have Personalities we need to have the same kind of rules played over in the US as we're doing in Norway for example all of these things we need to you know put into order and have a system so when people outside look at sports. It shouldn't be confused right now. I'm watching you know ten bowl game in in the US and next week. I'm watching some ten game in the end you're in Europe and different rules. Why you know. And that's that's not good for the good for the sport So one of them I can see great potential for pool But we need to structure its and make it a bit more Professional and need a few more interesting characters and I also think that you know might not help the professionalism but I think that's Right now it's like poker. In the beginning. Every player was kind of failing under their own flag. It was each month for zone but eventually they started to make like seem thank thank so they basically what they did. Some of the best pool Sorry poker players. They got together discuss theories and kind of like simulated situation with the pair on the poker table. And I think that's right now also I kind of feel that. It's every man for his own In the pool world. But it's especially the ones who have the same sponsors. Maybe they shouldn't be more like it team. Having more like a team spirits trained together except people might win the competition like spend the day with the store team and meet up with. Pull the great pros responsibly. These kinds of things we can attract you know people into and kind of build a report with the the browns as well But I think that's right now one of the largest also is that is every man for himself and maybe we should take a look at that I want. I want to end the interview with asking you how players can get in touch with you but before I do. It doesn't strike me as just players that might benefit from getting in touch with you companies within the industry sponsors toward directors It sounds like anybody who's interested in building what they have to be larger and and making what they do and the game itself much more successful would benefit from contacting you. It's not just players and sponsors right no I mean. I think that's the experience that I've got from the poker industry. It can be utilized into Pu industry with great success. I mean there's there's no doubt in my mind and that's why I basically started the agency as well a little bit of on the backbone of the success story of the week player I mentioned but also I could clearly see a lot of similarities. Where the pool industry is it is at right now and we can be headed if you know if if we kind of moving the same direction and if you pick up a little bit of advice from the poker industry because they made a fantastic job of recruiting about ten fifteen thousand players playing a ten thousand dollar buying events you know. They're they've done something wrong. Not Sorry for and and so I think that's Our experience from that industry can the adopted into the Pool Industry. And Right now see. There's a project here with this League and there's another project there and then you go to the whole Mushroom they've got ownership of this and that tournament knock this one so I think that's the whole industry kind of works together. It will benefit sports and if we get the sport to grow better recruitment and I says that more professionalism. It would only benefit the sport as general and then the The producers and you know Like Predator Tom all of these. They would only benefits from the sports growing So I think that we need to put together and move in the same direction and Once we do that I think it's way easier trying to pitch the sports to mainstream media which is key everybody necessarily add everybody but I think that this sport belongs on mainstream media and once we do that it will be easier to track sponsors from outside the industry and an awesome. They've got people pockets so they can you know they can help build the price even higher and I would only help the professionalism again because people can actually make a living out of this and the ones who's not making a living but they have a dream of one day doing so. They can see that they actually possible to make a decent living but because right now it's like twenty people in the world with some who can actually make a comfortable living out of this fort that actually has millions of flare will wipe so there's some there's something there's something wrong here. I mean way more people should be able to make a living out of sport. Hey per welcome back. Sorry we had A. We had a connection problem there and I lost you before I had the chance to ask you about how people can contact you. So how can people contact you? And then we'll go from there so yeah. Obviously we've got. The website is Supercharged DOT COM and use felt super without the east as you are of course when faced because well. So if you're if you're a player who think you you got something to offer a sponsor look up if you're a builder browns and you'll looking into getting a better return on your investment in your current protein or pro team. You're thinking about starting you know look up and Yeah all right fantastic. I appreciate you taking the time today and I appreciate you answering back. And hopefully we'll be getting back in touch with you and talking about Further things very soon. Thanks for having me. Mike are never good day. All right that was per Haagen. It sounds like purrs. Got Some some great ideas you know you see so many people in the industry either want someone to hit a home run. You know well if we just had another color of money movie everything would be great. You know that's not gonNA happen anytime soon. Instead of purchase saying we need a color of money movie or we need some multi bazillionaire who loves pool just to throw money at it. It sounds like he actually has ideas as to how the industry could come together to make things better. I'd love to see the industry come together behind something like that. I'd to see the entry come together behind. Any plan doesn't have to be purse. I still fully believe that if the industry came together I mean everyone in the industry the media the cue makers the table maker's the players. The room owners the tournament directors. Everybody and said you know is what I can bring to the game and this is how I can help that. It would be a great thing for the industry and then you know I talk a lot about. Oh what was the industry everything terrible and it is looking up you know besides the cancellations and postponements right now. I do think things are looking up. It doesn't mean that we don't have to do anything to to make it move up to make it get better just that much faster but again. That's for another conversation. So I wanNA thank you for listening to American billiard radio and I will have another episode for you just as soon as I can.

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Hard Times in Sacramento

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Hard Times in Sacramento

"Welcome back to American billiard radio today is Thursday, April fourth for this episode. We have a conversation with the new owner of hard times billiards in Sacramento, California. Oscar Dominquez Oscar says that ends of April fifteenth he'll be taking over ownership of the room. I do want to send a thank you out to hope. I don't butcher this. Michael Rangel, salmon, Mike, sent me a note suggesting Oscar for an interview and Oscar was of course, very willing to sit down and donate some time to us before we get to Oscar though, we've got some results we've got some champions. David al-qaeda won his second world pool. Masters title. It seemed like everybody was watching the stream on Facebook. And I do I did see a story today that metro put out that talked about the kind of numbers they saw four. Or streaming of the event they they had quite an audience. The files were crazy David's opponent, Alex Kazakhs five zero lead. Eight five lead race to nine al-qaeda fought back to eight and Kazakh has had the match in hand failed to get shaped from the eight to the nine. I mean for the couple people left on the planet who haven't seen it Katie came with an amazing shot. Not really like you had any alternative feet kind of had to come with the shot that he did. But you gotta feel for Kazakhs had a great tournament. He's been so close in a couple of different events recently. And of course, with his talent, we know that he's not going to continue to be on the doorstep for long. He's he's going to get back to his winning ways. It wouldn't be American billiard radio, though, if I didn't speak out on something that I feel strongly about and hey, it's my show. So I can. One of the players in the twenty four player field at the world pool. Masters was girl Strickland. Now, I've talked about Earl before and my feeling is that URL is like that. I hesitate to say crazy uncle in the family because Earls not crazy Earl is outspoken. He's opinionated. And you know, we all have that member of the family who people say, you know, he he says what he feels and he comes right out. And you know, exactly where he's coming from. You doesn't keep anything hidden. Well, that's a real look rose. A great player. He's he's champion. He he's Earl I mean, the only other player that that you can say something like that about his Efren. You know, you don't have to describe him any better than than just saying. He's efren. So Earl is Earl all of his titles everything. He's not going to win the world pool masters. I'm sorry. The the kind of talent they have out there. He's not going to win it. So it seems to me that when he's invited to that tournament. He's not being invited. Because he's a threat to win the tournament. He's being invited. Because he's going to give you a sound bite. He's going to say controversial things. Can we give that arrest? The guys on multi time world champion multi time. US open champion. Sure. He's opinionated. But come on. We don't need this. We're trying to make the game better. This does not make the game better. I don't believe that. There is anyone who is not a pool fan who is going to read the comments he made or see the comments he made on video and thank. Wow. That's amazing. I've got to go watch pool right now. It's not going to happen. So what are we accomplishing by poking fun one? We set him up for it. I mean. If you set somebody up to make comments, you're not accomplishing anything by making fun of him when he does. So I I would just like to see. And then again, this is my personal opinion and nothing to take away from the event. The event was great. I've been to. Event after event that matching puts on and no one produces a tournament. Like they do. They are absolutely the top tournament promoters out there, and they do more for professional pool than quite a few. You could go so far as to say they do more for professional pool than any other company in the game. So I know it sounds like a bash on them. But. I just I just don't see what we're accomplishing by continuing to bash Earl so all right hug it off my soapbox. Another big tournament that took place over the weekend was the super billiards expo that was a Roy's basement showcase two of the players that play for Roy's basement. That's aerial Francisco. James Arandas won the diamond ten ball pro Players Championship and Christina Koch won the women's nine ball pro Players Championship Christina played Karen core in the finals, which is no big surprise. It was also great to see Sarah rouse e in the field. Sarah finished in third at loved see Sarah get back into the game. It's it's not as we will talk about with Oscar. We're not at a point in the game right now where it makes financial sense for a player who has stepped away from the game to come rushing back into it. But again pope flea that will change. As usual at the super billiards expo there were a number of other events. Jonathan Pentagon won the pro embar box championship. Phil Davis won the amateur open. Bobby Connor won the open seniors event for players fifty on above fifty and above is open seniors. Oh my God. I mean, I could play on that Ed Mattis shown IQ, I hope I got that. Right. Won the super seniors division, which is sixty five and over. No, I can't plan that one just yet. Rachel Lang defeated Michelle's Jiang in the amateur ladies event and the twelve hundred juniors Peter Jack coop. Zach positive I got that wrong defeated Kyle Ye in the finals and in the fourteen and under Nathan children's defeated Ivo Lincoln in the finals. Other big news, which I guess you can say, it's big news. I kind of think it's in the category of meanwhile, water is wet. They announced that Shane van boning and Schuyler woodwork as well as as coach Johan we'll be back for the Mosconi Cup as if anyone questioned that Shane and Schuyler Johann would be back for the Mosconi Cup. But it's official out there now. So we know two of the five players. One of those five players is probably not going to be my guest from this show, not because of any lack of talent. But just because of him having other priorities, I give you the new owner of hard times billiards, Oscar Dominquez. Very proud to be joined all the way from California. Oscar mingka's Oscar how you doing? Mike. How are you? I'm good. You had a good trip to super billiards expo. Yeah. I did pretty good one almost a perfect trip. But not quite. All right. I I do have to ask you've ran quite a few tournaments in your life and you've participated in quite a few tournaments in your life. Is that the strangest tournament format you've ever seen? I seen more unique situations, but for prevent this is probably the most unique not redrawing in the final sixteen. In some form punishes, the people in the winter side, in my opinion. But yeah, I mean, I feel like if they were just a redraw they can't nobody will complain about anything right now. There's just too many variables and I feel. You're kind of setting yourself up for trouble. And for those who aren't familiar with the format out there you play down to eight players on the winner's side eight players on the one loss side. And then you play those two brackets out to one player and they face each other. So you could theoretically lose right before the final eight on the one loss side have to play one loss opponents all the way to the finals which. Yeah. You're right. It kind of punishes the player on the winner's side. Have have you talked to either Allen or Frank about that and found out exactly what it is? They're trying to accomplish. You know, what I haven't really I'm not the type of person to ever complain. I knew the rules coming into the tournament. So I bought it by them. Now. It was funny. You say that if you lose before the final aids you can technically play losers, which is exactly what happened to me last year, and this year, the exact scenario happened unintentionally now, I know, you know, the famous Roy's basement ROY was joking with me. It's like, hey, it looks like you found the loophole here. Triple smart, and this and that. I would have had to play Ralph's. Okay. On the winter side. Versus playing. Who today play? Why it's a play a Turkish gentleman who played really well who ended up beating Tyler style like first round. So obviously the guy played well, but I think whoever it was I can't think of right now. But it was definitely a. On paper weaker player than Ross. Okay. So yeah, look like a genius when it works out. And but it was not my intention. I have faith in myself to beat Ralph. Yeah. I can see why people would be a little set about it. Because in essence, it does punish the winter site for staying on the winter side, in my opinion. The loser size should redrawing to the winter side. But I can see the fact of not redrawing the winter side matches. But I think you can just reach all the winter side matches again into different brackets or if they happen to fall in the same bracket. Oh, well, then redraw lose your sight into them, in my opinion, that would make more sense and to clarify. We're not in any way saying that the final eight of the one loss side is a cakewalk. No, no, it's not. So, you know, while on paper as somebody on the out, you know, real birds. You can look at it and say, oh, will you know, you just know when to lose, and then you got all easier eight it's not that simple. You know, I had to play Thorson home in, you know, like, I I don't know. I mean, he could have been on the winter side chis- easily, you know. But whatever I mean, it's one of those things where. It is a unique format I think eventually Allen world change it and Frank. I I would see them changing it in the very near future. Oh, I would suggest it to them that they do change. It just a mate any controversy. Alan. I mean, you know, Alan, he's he's his own guy. I don't think he backs away from controversy. I don't even think he pays any attention. No. He doesn't. We're certainly going to get into the reason that you made this post on Facebook. But you had said something prior to the tournament in a post on Facebook that I I don't remember the exact wording, but it was something along the lines of this was your last major before the word wasn't retirement. But but what was it? I believe the last major before it became a small business owner. Okay that works. So. So you're not people who are reading into that that Oscar Dominguez is not going out and playing majors anymore. They're they're confused. They are confused to a certain extent as far as myself going to let's say the China open or. The all Japan stuff like that probably not going to be able to do that anymore. At least not for the first two years to my wife, and I just arch is going to be too busy. Makes sense and for people who again aren't aware which I think maybe there's one or two left on the planet. You are the new owner of hard times billiards in Sacramento, not to be confused with the Los Angeles on. How did that whole? Transaction come about. I mean, I don't care about details wise, but you know, what got you the idea of running a pool room. A lot of people don't know this. But the reason why started playing pool in the first place was because my father bought a pool room in Northridge, California called billiard connection, and this was in two thousand seven yes. Two thousand seven and. I just started working there during the summer when I was in high school and off on on the weekends, and we sort of having Wednesday night tournaments, and you know, for twenty dollar entry fee. My dad would add five dollars for a player. No limits. So on Wednesday night, we'd get sixty seventy players single donation, and I price would be paying four five hundred dollars. It was a pretty sweet tournament for one day Wednesday night tournament. And of course, the competitor me. So I wanna play and that's how he started playing pool. How we came across this poor room was is that I always wanted to have a poor knows always my ultimate goals become a business owner, the current owners have been telling me for maybe about six seven years that they wanted to sell to my father. And I and we were never ready, and then, you know, my older brother's got involved. My older brothers town me, you know, why don't we do this together? And so actually the poor on papers. My wife, and my brothers are minority shareholders in the business as well. My dad's gonna be coming up here to help me, but he's still going to be doing his pool. Table business on the side. So you mean to tell me that your dad owned and ran a pool room? And when you suggested that you do it. He didn't tell you to run away as fast as you could. No, he didn't. He he did it for two years, but he had a bad partner. So that kind of you know, bad taste. In our mouths and the whole family because we all suffered from that that situation, but you know, what it's it's different over in Los Angeles. We didn't have a beer and wine license. We didn't have food here. I have thirty three tables thirteen thousand square feet s-. I have eighteen employee's. It's a much larger operation. So. I mean, obviously, there's more sacrifice, but I'm hopefully, God willing that the will ward. Is there a little bit more than what I was doing in the past? You you talk about having wanted to run a pool room for so long. I mean, this isn't just running Peru. I mean, this is this is a major poor room. We have this is a big operation. I was really nervous at first. I was kind of. I was thinking to myself. I hope I know what I'm getting myself into here. So for the past three months I've been living in Sacramento, actually or in April. So four months now. I've been living in Sacramento, and just, you know, shadowing the current owners, the Marcus family, and we've been essentially doing the day-to-day operations with them. And we seem to be doing just fine there at first I know they were little nervous. But they told us that we're doing great, and we have their approval and we actually start a fishery April fifteenth. Well, that's coming right up. Yeah. It's coming right up. That's the target date. It could be plus or minus a few days. But that's our April fifteenth is target. So yeah, I mean, it's right around the corner and I'm super excited to. Hopefully, you know, build up the sport on a different level desert. I've been like really focusing lot of energy on the mess west tour. And now that we have an actual facility to do what we need to do. And do what we want to do. It's gonna be a lot nicer. I think that leads into the question what what are your short term and long term goals for the room? Short term is definitely to prove the level of play in general in northern California. So what I feel like is. You know, I'm planning on doing free lessons in clinics and doing the increase in the membership more participation there. I just really want improve the level of play up here that way, we I guess what's the word. I'm looking for. I guess. Just I guess create more more people who who love the game more addicts more fans of the game and expose them to, you know, great players having nice events here. Long term. I would love to have, you know, hard times be known as one of the premier rooms in the country. It is now, but I feel like there's still too much competition. I wanna be able to separate ourselves from everyone else. There's definitely a handful of major rooms in California. There is namely, California, billiards and Fremont, California, which is San Jose area. We have hard times bellflower. Which I honestly would not consider one of the premier rooms anymore because it's kind of been let go I guess in recent times, which is a shame because the potential to be amazing room. Is there? And then you have San Diego on Q great room, Fresno, a very small. It's a smaller room, but it is high-quality. So yeah, I mean, I have a lot of ideas, you know, my wife, and I we've been all over the world together now, and he's seen so many pool rooms, and there's a lot of ideas that I have in my mind that I like from different pools on across the growth, and there's a lot of things that I don't like. So I'm trying to. I guess use that information that that experience to my advantage. Those owning the room change anything with the MS tour. It does in some way. It does. I'm no longer running the tour in terms of my wife and are not going to be doing the operations. It's actually Vilmos folders and his girlfriend who run who runs the tournaments out in Vegas. Good friend of ours abou-, so they're going to be in charge of running the tournament. But it's still all tour. We are doing the scheduling I'm doing the sponsorship and actions and all that good stuff all the behind the scenes stuff. My wife and are still handling Vilmos and his girlfriend are essentially just running events. Okay. So they're gonna travel the west coast, they'll come out to California and run events there. Yes. Exactly. Just because I don't wanna make the commitment because weekends are essentially a bread and butter for the pool, and for me, it's more important to to maintain this business than it is the mas- west or it seems at and when I say this it's from the experience that I have in the Zona area. It seems like a room opens or a room gets bought, and it's the shiny thing. And all the players come out and support it for a period of time. And then something else become shiny. And then there's the struggle. How do you? How do you make sure something like that doesn't happen? Well, the great thing I have going from us that this poem has been here for twenty one years, it's become a staple sensually among Sacramento youth. I mean, I there's a lot of younger crowd here. It's it's a younger person's game on this area. So it's I think the most important thing for me is always constantly try to do something new always trying to improve some aspect of the business. Whether it's getting new toilet seats or new table tops anything that I can do. It's just a constantly improve the business. Keep building it up. That's my alternate goal. Really? I'm not very I'm not a complacent person. I've always been my wife, and I have always been. Very in business. I guess is the word. So like, we said that like I mentioned earlier that we do wanna make this the premium room in the United States. And I have a lot of competition. I have a lot of things to improve on I feel but little by little I do plan to try to get there. And and maintain it there seems like a lot of people in the billiards industry where multiple hats you've been a top level player playing all around the world. You've ran tournaments now running a room. I mean what else is there? I'm a dad. That's that's really my my number one job. In the sensually. Honestly, my that's why I'm doing this. I wasn't Jakarta. Maybe four months ago was playing cash games out there. And my daughter took her for step via FaceTime. In. It was really honestly at that moment that I knew this, you know, playing pool and for me, I just. I didn't want to see my daughter grow through FaceTime. Well, and you've got a pretty good role model there in the dad department. Thanks. I do very bus. I guess the question has to be asked. And I don't want this to be taken too much the wrong way. But you could put a team together right now of you Dennis hatch. Mike, Shayne Donnie mills. And Jeremy soci- that'd be a pretty strong team. And all of you have pardon my language jobs. Do you think that's a a statement on professional pool right now? Or do you think it's more of a unique thing where you had an opportunity, and you ran with it. That's good question. I think. What's the word? I'm looking for. I think the level of American polls behind without insulting fulltime players. I mean, I I say this with all due respect to the full-time players. We need to step our game up when you have working guys like Dennis hatch. Jeremy saucy myself beating you. You're not doing too good. It's just jobs on his truth. I. now. In my mind. I'm pretty strong individual like in my mind when I play somebody I feel like I should beat them because I know what I'm capable of. And I've know who I've been in the past and what I can do. So I'm not saying that I should never beat a top player. But if I beat you, you're probably not. At the elite level if you're doing it for a living does that make sense? Maybe two degree. I think maybe you're. And you would know this, of course, a whole lot better than I would. But I mean, you still got all that talent. I mean you've been playing the game for your entire life. So not being able to practice eight hours a day doesn't mean that you're a shortstop now. That's true. Well, the thing is just there's no money to be made, Mike. I mean, I play some of the biggest cash games in in the world. I'm in a very blessed situation. You know, I've done very well for myself as a pool player support my family. You know, we live in a nice place. And I have a nice car. I have nice things. I have things to show for what I've done in my career so far. But even then if I were to depend solely on playing pool, I wouldn't make it like I wouldn't live comfortably. So it. It just goes to show you how difficult it is in the states to do it to to to play full-time without. Some type of. Income or sources of income if unless you're like giving lessons and maybe gambling high-stakes you playing playing tournaments you're gonna go bussing every single time. Unless you're seeing them boning wins. You know, seventy percent of the events. He plays them. And. I worry when I asked this question that we could go down a rabbit hole and end up talking for hours. But what what is it from your standpoint that can be done different to elevate? The game. As a business owner as a player booth. Probably as a business owner to elevate the game. I think is sharing the wealth of knowledge, I'm not trying to stroke my ego. But I do know a lot about the game. I do know a lot about equipment differences. I do know a lot about. You know, different techniques systems, you know, for me to go in here. Like for example, last week. I gave the Sacramento state university kids free clinics and free table time. Just to work with them. You know, I started teaching them, you know, how to follow through and do different stuff as a player. Probably. What you can do is stivers Safai everything. I mean, you have to give lessons you have to, you know, sell Bill, your products do things like that, you know, exploiting what you know. Probably when the most pivotal moments of my life. I was in college, and I had told one of my professors that is there any way can take an exam early or whatever. 'cause I was pointing tournament the US open it it was at the time. So, you know, showed him tournament that I play professionally whatever, then, you know, the next day comes in class, and he comes up to me says do you mind staying after class, and he talked to me, and he says what are you doing in school? I don't understand. And he says what the hell are you doing in school? Why are you wasting your time here is like you should be exploiting? You're you're I guess you're fan base. Your knowledge do something you love. He's like don't go to school in like, I wasn't expecting that. From my. For my business administration. Professor ideas, far the best advice, I can give to not to not go to school. But to export what you know is supposed player you can make a living playing for. I did it. I'm not the most intelligent guy in the world. I'm not the most gifted or skilled. But if you pick your spots and treat people, right? You know, good things happen. That's pretty amazing. When you think that he gave you the exact opposite advice from what most people in the industry think should be the the right advice. You know? Right. I mean, I was personally I would tell everybody, you know, get a degree stained store, that's one piece of ice. I would always give the younger generations get that degree have some type of security in your life. 'cause things change, you know, if you have kids, especially or you get married, etc. Etc. So many things that can happen in your life. I just think gambling on risking it on on a pool tournaments. Probably not the best way to go before. I let you go back to getting ready to open the room, which by the way, you said April fifteenth was the date does then that's like a week before US open. You're still gonna play. You aren't you. Oh, that's a good question. I just sent an Email maybe about twenty minutes before you called to Nick of match them, regrettably, saying, I'm not gonna play the US open. Because I don't want to. Leave that burden you know, with my wife and leave my daughter behind and it's just too much on her. It's not fair and. I just need to have my head. Right. I'm not I don't want to go to the US open with. With me worrying about the business. I just want. I have everything the way I like it. Then. Probably next year. So this your unfortunately going to have to pass. That couldn't have been an easy decision. The player in me, the degenerated me once place so bad. But I, you know, I played pool for money. I it's it's a job end of the day. It's a source of income for me. I do it to support my family. In the story. That's what it's become to me. I love the sports being good to me. But the end of the day it is a job. And if I can make guaranteed income. You know in that week. I can. You know, easily cash in the pool sentiment about when that rolls. I'm gonna take it. And it would be very foolish of me. Not to. So I'm going to become a businessman for of player. Second. Okay. That seems fair. You mentioned that you've got, you know, you've got your family behind you. You've got desharnais behind you. You've also you've had the same sponsors for quite some time. And from what I saw online, it looks like predators taking good care of you. I mean, you've got real good relationships along those lines. You know what I do? I've been very blessed. I switch from as to predator wasn't an easy transition. But with a revolt shaft, I mean, I just found him up with the Rio and then predator, and I have been working together we do plan on working more in the future in terms of poll tournaments successor cetera. And they actually sent me the. The first generation pool. Balls one of five forums in the world that have them and the feedback has been incredible here. Everybody loves the way, they love. Everyone loves the way they play. I just I have a lot of our regular play all day, not a single skid, the balls very nicely. They resist chalk and dirt. So it seems like predators onto something really. Really nice here seems they're always onto something. Nice. They they really kind of push the envelope. Yeah. They do a great job. And I'm very proud to represent them. All right. Well, I will let you get back to getting ready to run your own pool room. And I'm still I still think you'll be in Vegas. No, I can't tell my wife that. All right. If you say, so I'll still be looking for you. Sounds good. All right. Thanks for your time. We will talk to you soon as our thank you. Okay. That was Oscar glad to see him moving into another part of the game. It sounds like he's not looking at this. As a I can't make living for my family. So I'm going to do my number two option. It it's not that kind of a move. I like that. He still looks for what he can do to better the game. And you know, honestly, no matter what we do whether it's play professional pool. Run a tour run a pool room. Make a podcast that some people think sucks. You know? It's it all comes down to what we can do for the game. And. It might be a pollyanna way of looking at things. But I still believe that if we all do whatever we can to make the game greater that the game has chance to really be great again. That's just me. Okay. That's American billiard radio for this week. And we will have another episode for you just as soon as I can get one done. Thanks, everybody. And Dave we're still thinking about you.

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Ed Liddawi Talks NBL

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Ed Liddawi Talks NBL

"Welcome back to american billiard radio. If you're listening to this on the day that it's being released then. Today is sunday march seventh actually. It's friday march fifth for me. But as part of the queue it up network. We're kind of trying to space things out a little bit so not that you really cared about that. But hey as far as you're concerned it's march seventh this episode. I had a chance to talk to ed. La dow is the owner of sandcastle billiards. Ed is the creative mind and the engine behind the national billiards league. The pandemic has caused some problems with the national billiards league. And i know that eh has struggled with a number of things and it sounded in conversations that we had had like. He wanted to get some things off his chest. Maybe and i wanted to check and see you know he's got. He's got big pie in the sky. Dreams with this project and i wanted to check and see where the project was and and what changes he feels. He's gonna have to make to make this a success so again. That was the the interview for this week. before we get to that interview Touch on a little bit of news as i say. Today is friday in my world sunday yours but it's friday in mind and today was unfortunately the day that maga announced that the turning stone casino had cancelled every one of their events out until august. That's end of august beginning of august. So the turning stone classic thirty four. That was scheduled for august. Nineteen th through. The twenty second is now postponed again until january. Sixth through the ninth twenty twenty two now there are other events that are taking place before the turning stone event was originally scheduled the trade show hopefully the super billiards expo and a number of events in different pool rooms but as far as turning stone kind of a big one and that one is postponed again in better news sticks and stones billiards has proudly announced that chris robinson is their new house. Pro sticks and stones is located in lewisville texas. You can find more information on them on their facebook page under sticks and stones billiards t x or you can go to sticks and stones dot club and see more information there but again chris robinson newhouse pro over it sticks and stones while we're talking about house pros. Let's move to new york. Amsterdam billiards torsten home in the new house. Pro their tony. Robots used to be the house pro. But with tony relocating to florida. Still think he should move to arizona. They were they were missing a a house pro and i think they made a great choice in torsten home in other news my partner in well one of my partners in the qaeda up network. Nate mendham finished. His women's fiji nine ball championship. Kelly fisher to no one's surprise. Did kelly fisher win the event. She margaret fa- lova in the finals. What might have been the surprise was that she didn't dominate the event from start to finish. She made it through on a wildcard. It it came down to a close decision within iraq or two but once it got into and let me back up a second. It was four days of action. Four ladies round robin the top four ladies advanced into a single elimination board and then the top two runner up finishers based on number of racks ran moved into the single elimination so kelly kind of squeaked in wildcard but once she was there she was back to her usual dominating self and she won the event. An is two thousand dollar payday. Four know it's early in the year and and we didn't get the derby city prize money that we normally get in january. Usually i won't even put the money list up for a year for the current year until derby has happened. Usually we have music city by then we have derby the by then and we've got a decent amount of money you know to get the money list started so we don't have that yet this year. What we do have to no surprise on the money list is denison koyo at the top of the list. He's we've got him with fifteen thousand in prize money so far in the first what. Two months and five days Shane fater conrad. Jeff de luna. Fill out the top five. Kelly moves to the top of the ladies money. List and right behind her is christina to koch. Who won the virginia state championship last weekend. So you like the way that kind of came back around Let's see other news billiards. Sports network held their dinas fears. Cup junior championships. They've been they've been building the swing up pretty big. It was in event they were real proud of an and by all rights should have been. The fourteen and under division was won by garrett from virginia his brother grayson vaughan Stayed with him pretty much match for match until right there. At the end the fifteen to eighteen division was won by joey tate. Anybody who follows pool out in that area. Raleigh north carolina joey tate's cashing in events almost every weekend. So he's a junior. Yeah but he is. He looks like he's got a very bright future. And i mean they all seem to play like champions in that area. So again i think. Congratulations to to the two winners to joey and garett. But also congratulations to billiards sports network. They had a successful event and they've got a big pro event coming up first weekend in may Dinosaurs cup ten ball championship. Five thousand dollars added. That'll be at center pocket in booey maryland. So keep your eyes open for that in other news. Match room has the predator championship league. It it's a new event that they've just gotten started. There's been so much controversy on this one online. I don't even wanna get into it Logos on the chest logos can wear. You can't wear. i saw. That nate had an interview with emily over at mattress morning. I have not had a chance to listen to that interview yet. But i'm pretty sure what. I know of nate that he probably cleared up just about everything. There was to clear up for that event. So yes that event is coming up march twenty seconds. I'm not going to dive into it because it's a long interview with ed. I don't think we need to dive into something that that nate has already handled quite well in happier news. I did see the news today. That brew lands bar and billiards in tampa. Florida is working on jeanette lee legacy benefit tournament. This'll be april. Tenth and eleventh again. Tampa florida jeannie. Seaver and sonia should be. I think i pronounced that right are putting this together. there's an age bracket be bracket fifteen hundred added from the room. I spoke to sonia earlier but we were having technical difficulties in actually recording the conversation for the podcast so basically doors open at nine tournament starts at ten. If you're in the florida area if you're not in the florida area. Sonia tells me they are accumulating silent auction items and they're working on a way that people will be able to bid for them online. So even if you can't make it to florida there is reason to follow. This online will have more information you have you can go to. Facebook brew. lands carole c. a. r. o. l. l. would so brew lands carol. Would you can get more information. And then we'll have more information on easy billiards as we get closer to the tournament. The only other news. I really had on a sad note. I got a note that a player from fayetteville north carolina by the name of john macleod passed away. I'm told john ran with pete horn back in the day. John was one of the one of the top players in that area As is the case with so many of the the older players back pain diabetes. They held him down and covert finally. Got the better of him. So again Sadly john macleod out in had fill a good friend of horns road partner with pete horns or horn has passed away. So let's get onto. Ed la ed talks about well. E e basically talks about the national billiards league and all of the plans that he has for that and and where he is with those plans so without further ado at data we very happy now to be joined by sandcastle billiards owner. But you wear a whole lot. More hats than that ebola dowie. How are things out on the east coast. Ed hello mike. Thank you for having me on the show once again. Things are going okay out here. restrictions lessening now from twenty five percent to thirty five percent capacity in our billions industry. Business restaurants are the same so things are starting to open up a little bit. More and a lot of people are tired of being home at this. They after all this time so the coming out more and more. It seems like we're starting to get over the hump on this. I agree with that absolutely. It seems that people are starting to come out A lot of people are getting go. Further fears of the virus or are getting nations or more people are becoming more compliant at the same time that were reluctant to beforehand understanding of the concerns. And nobody really wants to offend anybody and especially in the pool. Rooms are pretty much a second family in playrooms we. We missed the competition. We missing each other with playing with each other display opposite political views or views on masking so forth. Everyone's been very cooperative. For the most part you just had a new jersey state ten ball championship. That is correct. The part of the meds tour actually missed tour in the northeast area here. Pennsylvania jersey at some locations in new york maybe delaware We have hosted the new jersey obviously state championships for the open division. For several years we've had world class players planet and win it and hold new jersey state. Champion titles darren appleton one of them. jewelry course local pro and then We have a question i one. I don't recall if it was able of inner temple of anonymous tour. We had francisco bustamante to start it all off. And that's what started that tradition twenty fourteen. So it's been quite some time now that we've been hosting it and it's been getting larger and stronger each and every time we had a monster field this past weekend first place winner. Congratulations to germany saucy and a very very close runner up. Finish by matt crawl frank and and is also in the competition. He knocked out earlier in the weekend before that. We had another event as well for the nba qualifier our second event. So i mean to in a row with thirty plus player. Fields is a good thing to see once again and and the n. b. l. the national billiard league. That's kind of the main thing that i wanted to talk about today We had done an interview in the past and we had talked about your plans. Where where are you at with those. I mean how how is how are things. Come together in comparison to what you were hoping for. Well i was very thought out. Plan to begin with but no one could have planned for the covert pandemic to shut down the entire globe and to plan d and i think i'm going to plan c. Soon sing don't lane up in other states I did interview skin that long ago. for an article the buzz and now he's asking me what were. What do i foresee in the future. How many events could we have. I said i can't answer that. Because i don't have i've lots of Billiard balls but don't have a crystal ball so we can't predict how long it's gonna take for all states to open up that have participating locations that have been sanctioned for the deal and i can no longer wait for that to occur either so plan was to have qualifier two months in a row and a main event every third month now. I don't know if we're gonna have even two main events because even after a state opens up people are still getting out and getting comfortable. Once again new jersey's been opened up for five or six months now and we're just getting back to a more quote unquote normal frame of mind and comfort level. And that's still being worked on. We're over the hump as you mentioned but still a long way to go so even if they open up tomorrow we're still looking at a six month delay for people on out and start playing pool again the way that we did and within capacity to host a thirty two player competition is going to be some time so plan c. Maybe you know. I'm may open up more locations to sanction in locations that already there have been constantly contacted by new directors in new locations that want kit in keep on enquiring. How can we be involved in the l. We want we want to host the location here. So i wanna everywhere of course in addition to the covid situation it seems i'd say from the outside but kind of semi have an idea what's going on on the inside. It seems like there's troubles beyond just cova though trying to get this thing going and trying to get people on board what. What kind of response are you seeing from. From tournament directors and from players while i'm getting ninety percent good which is very rare from players and venues however from more insight on the t. from the tour directors and the other ten percent of players that seems to be All mitchell lack of communication or clarity on a few points that i couldn't legally post on the website. Because i don't wanna get venues in any kind of trouble by saying the wrong thing or any loom owners or tournament directors. That are volunteering. Their time pretty much paid minimal amounts for months of effort but The major factors here beyond code is a reluctance to something new An overwhelming sheer of the american player to get off the miniature tables the bar box and play on regulation equipment. That's one thing. And in general player. Participation has always been an achilles heel to billiards industry. Here in america whether it be on an amateur level or professional level. I planned on the n. b. l. designed to eliminate that for the pros at least which they're all on board. I get tons of messages from the professionals. That can't wait for this. Come about and They're happy that it's an american based league. You must be an american residents to participate as a professional. You don't have to be a citizen but you do have to be a resident and proof of residency will be required but on the amateur front. There's still a lot of doubt from amateurs having a chance at winning a qualifier or even cashing in the qualifiers from tour director side. They're having trouble no hosting satellite events prior to their qualifier to raise money for the top payouts. Which is one of the plans are willing to original plans before covert eliminated that. We don't want to sit there with our hands. Out for added money without being able to offer investors a return on their investment worthy of that for the amateur player to get involved. And say oh. I can't win it. There's going to be a favourite there and it's not me it's this week it's a leak mindset. What are you competing for one. You have to prepare to compete. Nobody practices anymore. Nobody frequent venue a few days or a week or two weeks beforehand learning the equipment brexit on the equipment getting used to that equipment before they competed that location players in americans ages travel from tour tour toured tournament tournament. We're not players anymore. That's why we can't compete globally. We're just tournament chasers. How how often does. I always ask a player. That complaining about a handicapped and my weekly tournament sandcastle. oh. I should be lower my ratings lower. They should be higher. And i asked them. Well let me ask you this. How many hours of practice did you put in this week to prepare to compete. Oh well i haven't been playing. So what makes you think you can compete. What makes you think you're ready to compete. If you haven't put the time in on the table which we all know. This game demands a lot of time. I'm in no shape. Tensor bonding by bodybuilding contest. But if i go buy a pair of speed oes and some body oil. I'm not gonna win a bodybuilding competition tomorrow. Who isn't that sound. Quite silly but pool player to expect the same. It seems from from the experience. That i have your right. A player doesn't necessarily practice on the equipment. There isn't a mentality of. Hey you know. I'm out of stroke. Let me let me play a tournament That'll that'll give me a chance to play some different competition you know. Give me a chance to figure out what it is that i need to work on my game. It's not a an exploration of. Where am i at right now with my game. it's always. I want to have more money in my pocket. When i walk out of the room. I walk in with and you're right no matter whether they've practiced or not exactly a we that hungary or we that i know were pros are pretty desperate if i may say a bowl stating that Because there are. There's a lack of a pro tour. There's a lack of our own pro tour. I mean there's a euro tour out there there's asian events establishments in clubs all the time they use a tiered system that i designed the nba where they have qualifiers. They feel the field. No problem with waiting lists here. We struggle to get players to participate. Because if oh it's just going to the first place winner. I'm not playing. Who says you can't win a message to all players that are listening. That are at least see. Hi c. class level or a b class level They have a chance to win. And and proof is in the pudding too qualifiers alone my very first qualifier. I had Seat plus player. Okay if you want to split hairs high sea level player okay. Which is not that great. They're not getting out there getting out. Maybe four balls may be five balls best. Hang in the pockets on the table. After mistake is made they beat an open player from new york came down to compete in the competition and they win hill hill. They destroyed them five games to one in the nba. Format a c. Plus player beat an open player. Five games to one ultimate break format set wreck pattern ricky from the spot the format is a handicap. It forces the player to play the game the right way. That's the whole design of it. If you think you can't win you're wrong. That's proof number one exhibit be in qualifier number two a. b. class player be a professional not a professional but a close to professional a high end coping player and he's an average be class player. I don't wanna embarrass these higher ranked players there's be class players a six eighty fargo rate argued as to be as pro because he's sponsored by a few Companies with products. And things like that. That's a whole nother story there but what is sponsorship from the industry today qualifies councils that but you know the the they argue that this guy's pro as fargo as well under you know seven hundred under the fargo consideration of a pros seven twenty up so seven nineteen and below is and still amateur guy. The six eighty and he also got beat. Five three was the score and that one by clash player. So stop thinking. You can't do it. That's holding us back from being global competitors. Here we can go on and on about. There's nothing to fear but fear itself or uncertainty or something new and we are creatures of habit. I expect people to be. You know leery of something new coming along especially people that don't know me or who i've worked with or what i've done in the billions industry for the last couple of decades I understand that but there comes a point where it's just common sense. And you're seeing people that you beat on a regular basis meeting high level players because of a format leveling out the playing field. So don't be afraid and you talked about the formante short race alternating break logically from the outside. You would think that that format would still favor the better player. So what is it about the format that that evens the field well. Momentum is a huge factor number one a greater player can't break and run stringing racks on alternate break format wants a player gets momentum of a couple of games ahead. They have more confidence and confidence is key in the game of pool. Along with confidence comes consistency. The more balls you make the more confidence you build. They work hand in hand. more consistent. you are more confident you audible confortable consistent. You're and now that's shooting holes in the mental game your opponent as they're sitting in the chair unable to do anything so alternate break format really that down. It doesn't cut it down a half. It cuts down about seventy percent really bill that momentum and that's from proven statistics that i've studied that i've seen even at the highest levels. You know. I'm tournament director over the international. Open down in virginia norfolk Propelled fleming international. How many times have we seen a race to eleven. Alternate break guys on the hill. Maybe his opponent might have maybe two or three games and the guy needs one and doesn't get there without that momentum letting off the gas when you're getting on the hill is another factor a lot of players relaxed even at the highest levels. They figured there on the hill. It's inevitable the other guy's gonna make a mistake that he can capitalize on or he doesn't really have to try so much as it's going to happen it's already over. He's already finish line before they began to sing. And we see it happen at the highest levels. I also see it happened at the amateur level players. get on the hill and they've already counted. The chickens haven't hatched and they lose. You mentioned that. You have a rule for the n. B. l. that they have to be American players. What's what's the laura behind then. Well we have anything of our own. I mentioned. Europe has a euro tour all around europe multiple countries. They play on that tour From my experience out in asia working with choi billiards promotions. The ica the international chinese able association. I said on their board secretary and they have qualifiers yes. They have many more people than we do. In china than america but have qualifiers with four to eight hundred players participating for a number of spots at their pro event. They here in america we have football the nfl. We have major league baseball. Majorly tryouts for all you have to go to college and get drafted or scouted and discovered with the nba. But we have those pads to successful million multi-million dollar organization in europe. They had the euro tour similar not as large very similar structure in asia. They have that similar structure in the middle east. Even they have that similar structure. I know in Cut qatar There's the federation there for the billiards and snooker federation and they have a similar structure here in america. We don't have that structure. That's what's missing to get us to that. Next level the millions and millions of dollars will come down the road once. We show that we are all in line and following this same structure. When we're organized and structured sponsorships will come. And i mean true sponsorships. We have people graduating from the bcs. April larson prime example. What is she doing now. Where's she going what she have to look forward to look for console verner. Where's he going. Okay once they graduate program to believes occasion foundation. We're still a great job promoting our juniors. We have some people that are doing the junior national championships now new tour in an effort to give them something else to go to. There's nothing for them to graduate into other than jumping into the. Us open playing everyone from around the world or the international open playing players from all around the world. They get crushed. You have no chance. There's nothing for us. our events. Our prevents are random scattered independent events. That are great events. Well-produced hard work goes into them and a lot of individuals doing great things with them. However it's open to the world and our players don't have anything of their own to encourage them along the way. That's where i wanna feel again. Okay so how do you bring these tournaments together. Well i i do have great relationships with every single person in the industry. I don't have any bad bad blood with other promoters. I try working with every single one of them. I see other people actually now coming up with similar structured as mine and i've listened to some podcast out there and i swear i just heard other people saying my exact same words that i said a year ago and i get angry for say. Hey wait a minute. That's my idea. But you know what i'm glad is catching on and i'm happy to promote them because that's what we need. We need to get on the same page and instead of battling them and calling them out of the day just doing my idea no good for you make it happen in your area. I'll make it happen in mind. I already have years now. I want to see it happen all across the country. Once we start seeing things the same way and restructuring or creating some sort of structure properly will finally get somewhere. Because we've been doing over and over and over and over again for the last twenty. Thirty years has not been working. We have so many things that are wrong out there and and things that look great for short term game or local prize purse. All the small thinking has got to stop. Everyone satisfied like you mentioned earlier. What's my payout for today. What am i gonna make today. You gotta look for tomorrow. How can we have self sustaining industry before we go out for major sponsorship when we go to johnson and johnson and so yes would you will offer you a sponsorship opportunity with hundreds of thousands of viewers watching our event advertising your product or your service for the low price of half a million dollars or one million dollars as a title sponsor of our main event of our super bowl for our world series. Every other sport in america's doing it. Why can't we are we that dumb or we got selfish. So notoriously the average pool player doesn't bring a lot to the table as far as pitching professional pool to a johnson and johnson. Or someone like that where this is a question. That's that's been there for for many many years. Where is the reward for a johnson and johnson or or any other outside of the industry sponsor. I'm so glad you asked that its viewership viewership right now. The original plan called for thirty two locations all across the country hosting a qualifier on the same exact day. How many views did the the last election get when people watching between you know who's gonna win what state what state will be blue. What state will be read. Who's who's going to win that state in california who's gonna win state in florida. Who's going to win. The all the boats in new jersey in texas everyone across the nation is watching the same exact thing on the same exact day right for an example for example with the b. l. format or structure with thirty two locations broadcasting. Their qualifiers seeing who's going to represent their state an amateur graduating to the major leagues to get behind and root for another player. Regardless whether i know them or not but i know that they're from my home state. That's my guy all right jersey. Let's go jersey. You've got this. Let's see you win this. Lets you get in the main in the main event. And let's you get some cash. I'm happy for you to win. Do we have that. We have local players that are hating on one. Another or denouncing one another's games or calling each other out to gamble and plays matches. They're trying to make himself feel big. But yet these same people to call out of the players that they know that they're better than that. They can have an easy time beating or scared to step into a field of thirty two other amateurs or thirty one amateurs and win. Alternate break riester. Five four hundred and fifty bucks. I've got ten thousand. That'll that says you'll beat you knowing that they don't have to nickels rub together but they've got a couple of backers they'd have faith in a game they don't have faith themselves to put up one fifty five one hundred five hundred fifty bucks play in the tournament which gets them four thousand dollar prize package and a chance at two hundred thousand dollar price. Purse faulk was well that mentality ask the change. I wanna go down the conversation road of sponsorship. But before that i'm seeing the vision that you have so there's there is a stream and stop me where wrong here 'cause lord knows on. I'm sure i'm wrong here somewhere. There is a stream that people can can tune in and watch and basically. You're told okay. There's thirty two events going on. Here's an update from the arizona qualifier. And while we're checking that out you know this is going on in new jersey qualifier. I mean you and i have have watched streaming online. Let's let's say you get every viewer. Who is who's jumping on facebook during the weekends and watching miscellaneous stream here and there. What are we looking at at twenty five thousand people i mean is that enough to get attention not even close not even close actually touched on two topics within streaming and broadcasting number one. Facebook is not our friend. Facebook is not our friend nor is youtube when they take eighty percent of the profits that they make from their advertisers and put it in their pocket and throwing the peanuts at the twenty percent leftover. There's nothing left for us to put into a prize purse. Nothing left for us to buy more equipment to stream with or to pay internet service providers or commentators or players staff members envio has partnered with our own proprietary server. Our equipment This last broadcast that. I did for the new jersey state championships on the most tour. I did without facebook and without youtube. But before i even give you those numbers. Well let me touch on the thirty two locations streaming. Everyone has their own following on the wire media has following. Pov pool has their own following. Ray hansen has own following Xp down florida. Gary gilson and a great guy also has own following. We need to bring these upstate. New york all these streamers and of course one of our only our maybe are only production to production company. Accu stats video. Productions has largest following. I la la have huge following on my own but putting them together gives us hundreds of thousands of views. The i n. b. o. qualifier. That was broadcast. I did as an example of the main event would be like with the musical entertainment with the intros with the byles on the players. The player cards and so forth. That was just give a taste of what some events will be like. I did broadcast on. Nbl usa dot com the website directly as well as facebook. And let me give you a taste of my following for that alone. Your average stream. That's free pay per views. Free stream only yields about ten to twenty five thousand viewers on average for free that that stream in the first three hours at fifty six thousand viewers in the first three hours. Fifty six thousand views. I check back two hours after that. And we were at sixty eight thousand dollars on the very first broadcast of the amateur level. New jersey qualifier. Numbers are going to be when we have the pros and that that was with facebook and Nba usa dot com website directly huge. We need to get off of facebook. Because what do we get the facebook from nothing. Nothing for facebook to put in my second qualifier for the nba l. Two weekends ago. I dropped the facebook. And i just wanted to see what the numbers would be like. And i didn't promote this event as much as the first one. Because i had a stroke as a special guest jeff read as a special guest named him as a special guest and they were doing commentary. We wanna do more interviews. Didn't even get to that. We have the musicians and things are taking a lot longer than. I don't wanna have the players waiting all day long already. Rent late to begin with so go down a bit. The second one. I just wanted to do a simple basic tournament. Get the tournament done and over with eight to ten hours. A qualifier in over with. So i didn't promote it because i did the first one and i dropped using facebook live. I only went on n. b. l. usa dot com and In conjunction with this past weekend. The the ms tour symbols. I've got over four thousand views just from either. Nbl usa dot com or sandcastle dot com using our own proprietary platform. My partnered with With os spn on full network also manages the websites. So there's a lot of comes along with that there's plans in the future. What is the benefit of that. Why dropped facebook. If it's such a big outreach so many numbers and because we don't we can't monetize that facebook controls that we don't we need to be in control of our own industry. We have to stop allowing these outside companies to control our players money. Our players images our players footage. It's our industry. We need to control it. So by funneling all these locations and streamers through our service and usa dot com. We gather all these analytics. From hannah's five thousand viewers from gary sinise five thousand viewers from fuel five thousand viewers or accu stats ten twenty thousand years and so forth and so forth my forty six thousand viewers. I'm sorry sixty thousand years. Rather than being facebook go through our server and then we grabbed his analytics of three hundred four hundred five hundred thousand viewers of one as an amateur level of what happens when we have the main event with all the big names amateurs versus pros men and women. Battling it out juniors up coming also making the cut complain at the main event now. We're talking about millions of views and that's a conservative number very conservative member going on our statistics already proven that we can take to johnson and johnson and offer them a return on their investment greater than any one television that working offer them if they want to be an advertiser and have a commercial thirty seconds. Ten thousand sixty second commercials twenty thousand. Now there's money in the pot to add to qualifiers to staff getting paid to players pops the main prize fund. If you wanna be a title sponsor it's going to be half a million or a million dollars and story just like every other sport. Okay so i again. I see the big picture. I i want to go back to the beginning we. This is something that pool players tournament directors and room owners have been promised from various people for years and years. And it's your a room owner if you come on board with this plan then. The players in the tournament directors will follow and the players are told if you come on board with this plan than the room owners in the tournament. Directors will follow. And you see where it's going so what. What is the spark that is needed to get this bonfire lit i think just you of union of amateur and professional players really come together and just joining in. I mean to get that sport for for the amateur players. They have to stop thinking about their short term goals of making five hundred bucks for a thousand dollars in a small or six thousand dollars in a bar box of and even i had one player didn't play envio qualifier because he had a bar box tournaments and he made six thousand dollars. That's great. you could buy used car. You might be able to pay your mortgage for a couple of months. How many of those tournaments are you gonna win. Not many. I'm also in the midst of working deals with or adam waiting with insurance companies for dental and vision plants health benefits group health plan. There will be an nba group health fence. I'm building a career option for players. Not a one time payday where they have to win the tournament. There's going to be other venues avenues of of revenue coming in one being through streaming as well when these players footage is captured and nbl events going through our server going through this platform. there player. I d will be tagged on each and every video that the rim and the two players in each match winner lose will be paid twenty percent each of every pay per view click and now they can promote themselves. Hey check out my match. My cowards and went hill hill. He got me into last. Rescuers agreed safety battle. I thought i had him locked up onto fouls but he kicked out of. It made the ball and got out on me. It was an incredible match. Check it out. Even if it's a four ninety five people view. After the fact someone clicks on it reach. Get in the book i lost. I'm still getting paid. Residual passive income is also in the plan for the players as well. That's one thing for the players you know. The health plan to benefits Residual income even if they lose and for an amateur player putting up one hundred fifty bucks to get to that level. What is that. it's being. It's nothing the nfl. The mlb the pga tour. You can't play in one event in qualify for pro event. So just forget about the money factor. All these people that are just looking at dollar bills. What's in the pocket on the short term. What other professional sports industry gives you an opportunity to win. One little event thirty one other amateurs and make it on the pro tour. No industry that. I know of the rooms. That are participating. Get regular foot traffic every month. They're also going to promote themselves with their their local sponsors for those streams that are welcome. None of that money's being asked for and we want to we want every room involves on every streamer involved. And i want to do some cross promotions with all of them so i can see the success big picture. I can see the goal and the goal is great and and it's something that the industry has needed for a long time Do you have a vision for a timeframe i. It's hard with the covert situation slowing everything down. It's almost like i have to start all over again because then you have closed down Venues have been held back from opening tournament directors have lost jobs. They have families to feed. They don't longer have the time to put in for practically nothing. You know I'm trying to be as transparent as possible. No one has to worry about anything. I know there was some confusion there. But there's a thousand pros and one conned us one hundred fifty bucks if you don't win the qualifier but you're gonna win cash that day with the calcutta where it's allowed or side pot or if outside local sponsors want to sponsor that event and throw in two thousand dollars twenty dollars we'll get your money back in the top places so you don't have to lose you know that's the only con players so scared was the bucks maybe not for you. But as trekkers shown c. plus and be players have been open players and they've come within the top three to get to the next level. What does that spark incite. Everyone has a finer within. We need to find those people out of scared. They're not scared to put up on the bucks to get pro event for the projected two hundred thousand dollar prize purse. And it's gonna take some time so a project timeframe if it takes all year to have one big event and get there so be it but longer than a week for all the venues to reopen or torment. The richest to finally get moving on projects. I've been on detail. Many that have been slacking and their let me give credit first off to a bunch of people that have been doing great that have field full ready to go once. Restrictions led up in their area in the room. Owners are comfortable having that many people in those establishment were allowed establishment. I like thank james harris out in california. Make mendham wisconsin. Gloria jean with the rather nine tour rhode island. They've all been busting their tail. Do a lot of things They minimizes ready waiting to go. We have people down in florida joining the force now helping other tour directors. So it's starting to come together. We're tour directors. I've never worked worked together before starting to come together to make this happen. Because they do see the big picture they see the end game. I don't think a lot of people west. Virginia the league room. Another one that tried to put something together gonna to work out. I'll say a big. Thank you to los angeles in texas. We've got to qualify players from texas one from california one from rhode island into new jersey. Soon we're going to have a qualified amateur from florida so that's only a handful of players out of sixty four that we need. I can't wait all year long for everyone. Get on board and get moving so those movers and shakers. You wanna be true hustler. Get your ass moving. Otherwise there'll be replaced and we're gonna have more venues. And the i sixty four to qualify in or the first four locations to host the qualifiers and fill those fields and the players that want it will show Gender that will is another person interested with borderline billiards and her location and she even has sponsors. That are interested but again. I'm not going to accept sponsorship until it's the true sponsorship when we can offer them something for their investment. That's next planned planned. See and i guess it is a good time to to go down that road. You you have some pretty strong feelings when it comes to sponsorship right right now. I know that there's sponsorship is a big issue out in the billions industry right now some events going on and i always say what is sponsorship. No there's it's great that a lot of companies are products sponsors. Might give you cloth or ball's t. shirts gloves or cue sticks but when you go into an event none of those items can pay for your hotel room or your flight or your entry fee some sponsorships for pros give them a salary or they pay for their entry. Fees into events as part of their contracts that sponsorship products unfortunately not enough to qualify as a sponsorship in my eyes It's the court and it's a beautiful thing that's a great gesture and it does cost money to a degree however again for that player to make money. In an event they have to spend on average a thousand to twenty two hundred dollars. We're talking about pros or even open players traveling and thing entry fees into an event if they don't come in fifth place or better they lose money on the venture lotta times third place or better. So what does that t shirt that. Cue stick doing for them at that time. How does that help. That's mike with it. Give them a agree or disagree. Cash talks the rest walks. But don't you feel if a player and you gotta deal with with xyz q. company. And they give me product or whatever i guess i guess. The question is as a player. How are they gonna feel about being told. I need to know your business as far as your sponsors go. Oh there's three spots allowed for sponsors. But i'd like to see the sponsors actually putting them into these events i already have one. I'll give thanks and recognition to richard sue bird. People may have heard of as soon nominee shafts out of brooklyn new york. I believe is brooklyn. Excuse me he sponsored a player into my second qualifier player. Were his shirt his logo. Rgs custom cues that player for one hundred fifty dollars from that sponsor sponsor. No cue stick required. Less money than acoustic hundred and fifty dollars was paid for. Orgin sue for one of our players for another place engine to qualifier. That player won the qualifier. Richard sue now presented in the main event his patches in there it's that simple you can sponsor an amateur player or professional for less than what the products will cost you so if they have a deal with the sponsor and they're very comfortable. They want to wear their patch. That's great. that's fine. But i'd really prefer to have the sponsor actually sponsors your way into the event where you can make money not just be a billboard for the product and you say you're limiting it to three patches from from sponsors and of course that's up to the player so whatever level i mean they might get ten bucks but you're limiting bright two three okay. Three correct three three sponsor patches on the chest of the players jersey and Just reminded everyone that there are actual jerseys being awarded to these qualifier winters and the professionals that pay their way. Also so that's another expense is being taken care of from the money's collectively generated through the qualifiers and let me just clarify that. These are qualifying events. these are not cash. Tournaments is their qualifying events to get into a pro event the different structure as far as the money goes but three patches are allowed and we've talked about the event that they're trying to qualify four and and your original intention was to have to a year it. It sounds for four okay. Actually for him. Every three months correct it sounds from the current situation. In what you've said and it certainly not everything that you're shooting for but it sounds like you would be you would be. I'll say satisfied. But that's not really where i'm looking for if you had one of those by the end of the year is that correct. I'd be satisfied if we have a full two hundred thousand dollar prize purse with one main event at the end of the year. Yes i'd be very satisfied if we could pull off if everyone jumps in within the next two months we can still have to events with a two hundred thousand dollar prize purse but again we must feel the fields. I'm calling out all players to do their part. I have a bunch of tour directors. a bunch of venues. They're giving up money giving up time donating their venues. Losing money on the day host qualifiers because tournaments in the new. That's just a run of the mill. Nopal room that doesn't have alcohol or food the cell or even if they do lose money they still lose money just not as much lose money by giving up the tables the wear and tear on the tables rather than charging table time. I mean what does it green fee for normal tournament. Five or ten bucks. That doesn't cover the wear and tear on the table. The venues giving that up. We're director's giving up endless hours. Time and efforts constantly dragging people into give players opportunity. And i'm not trying to rag on the players. Because i'm a i'm a pool player myself. I'm a player before. I'm a room owner. I'm a player before. I'm on promoter. I'm an enthusiast of the game before. I'm a player and this is all for the benefit the greater good for uplifting game in america were laughing stock in the world we can no longer compete with anyone in the world. If you think otherwise check again. We have a handful of people. Players can hang the can't win and world championships and we need to get american players back on that level by following the same structure every other country does but us. Okay so you and i have both heard the pie in the sky numbers. There's there's x. million of peop- number of people who who hit a ball once a month or or whatever. The numbers are okay. So let's say. I'm one of those millions of people who are interested in pool enough and would like to see the game move forward. Remind them where they get information about national billiard league a and b l. usa dot com website will be updated to be a little bit more elaborate on money breakdowns. 'cause summer just worried about But there's also a few new exciting things in there. We're going to be changing locations. We're gonna be adding and removing some locations around the country so there's a map on site we can just click on that. We tried to make it as simple as possible. Everything is written in code from scratch the logo the design of the map. Everything there's no matter the. Us states that are colored in red. You just hover over the empty states still turnbull. But the states that are read. Have a location marker with an nba logo rather than like google maps marker. It's a it's an nba logo when you click on that logo a little window pops up and it's a little information form or a contact form rob that will automatically email your local tour director. You'll given your phone number your email address and your preference of how you'd like to be contacted. And there's a little window there to type a few words or sentences expressing interest so nbl usa dot com. Click on the site into a directly. Back you if not message me. Personally you can hover over any one of the blank states. That are not occupied right now. They're not hosting anything. And that will send me an email. You can click on sandcastle and email as well. I check my email every single day. And i go. After the twitter's that are not responding to emails if they haven't gotten touching time they're busy or whatever the case may be they don't follow up with you. I personally will be following up with hundreds of people across the country so one of us will get back you shortly but it all starts at nbl usa dot com. I realize it's a slow process. And and certainly as long as either one of us have been in the industry. We understand that time right. But i think you're deserving of a lot of credit for trying to make this happen you know the the pool world is full of people who say god. I wished the price funds were bigger. I wish to pull world was better. Okay that's it but you know you're you're trying to do something about it and you definitely deserve kudos for that. I win is when is your next qualifier. What are the next qualified. You have on the schedule out. There's one at the end of the month at skinny bob's in texas They're looking to solidify date because they do have the texas open. The i Attend to date was going to be the sixth. Now that's not gonna do. We've got rescheduled to the twenty seventh. But now there's another event going on on the twenty seventh so they're trying to find i whether they make it on friday. The twenty sixth perhaps. But they're all flexible working with one another so at the end of the month. There'll be one in texas Florida's soon to have one and wisconsin is looking to happen soon as well wisconsin's already full but Florida i think has some openings in texas definitely have some some opening still so there are about two thirds of the way there with their fields but feel free to contact carlos sanchez in texas or We just signed on a new person. I can't remember her last name. Sorry carry down in florida. I can't recall her last name. I'll stop my head. Sorry she just during open. She's helping you out or just contact capone's rocky rocky. Macelroy capone's these hosting Carries the term director for all of the things. They're so she's joining in because she knows the schedule so now they're just trying to pinpoint a date and her joining bortles save a lot of time. So i'm going to be personally reaching out to room owners because there's been some brigham and communications with tour directors and the runner as i had some room owners. Contact me saying that. They didn't even know that they were hosting. And i thought that i was already cleared out with the tour director teaser. So now we have more time yell them. No known i'm finding out that's not the case but that's my that's my my My job to deal with concern but You touch on something. I wanted to mention if you don't know what the numbers are. As far as how many people we have out there. I did a rough estimate about league players tournament players and so forth all events. The numbers on average I did the research on that and it was just around. Two million players that play on a regular basis in america will over two million players that regularly participate in either league or tournament play at all levels. We have two different worlds in the billions industry in america we have the bar leagues and seven for tables and we have the tournament world with nine foot tables and we have to. We have to merge those but just for an example The largest bar league that everyone's come within most familiar with and there's been around the longest. They do a great job in organizing things together. They have one hundred eighty thousand active members. Currently they charge an annual membership fee of twenty dollars. And i'm not trying to single them out. I'm just using them. As an example of how powerful we could be for ourselves without asking for sponsorship were added monies or putting the hands out like panhandlers as we have been. What's the math on that. One hundred eighty thousand players times twenty dollars year. We're talking about three and a half million dollars right there. Just from membership fees. If we did that on a pro level we have our our money right there without sponsorship then we can offer you know through broadcasting and advertisers and advertising opportunities and everything then we can start asking for billions. We really need. We need our own million dollar league. Plus self sustaining self established as a unified force as an organization across the country. Then we can start going to sponsors and johnson johnson so forth saying we need more money or we're not asking for money were offering them an advertisement opportunity to get their brand across millions of years. When you when you talk about the epa leagues or you talk about inning league. It feels to me like you're selling a a different product though when when you're going to an apa player you're selling them. The idea of you're going to get together once a week with your buddies. You're gonna hit some balls. It's going to play to your competition. You're you're you're need to compete. You're going to have a good time but a tournament is a different thing. You're selling the animal right right. So how do you. How do you make that tournament attractive to those other players. Look at all the commitments required to play in league. How many times have you heard league players complaining that their teammates don't show up. They have to constantly babysit their teammates. Oh you showing up tonight or you're not playing or wait. We have too many players. Who's going to have to sit out. Well i wanna play. I wanna play. This is not a team event. This is a singles leak. What does that mean. you're out on your own. You don't have to babysit anyone else and when you win you win all the money. In addition to that how many months of commitment they sign up for in your typical bar leaks. There's no commitment with the nba. I'll you play in one event. You win that event you go to the nationals. That's it one event you and your competitors you in that one which is usually a one day event sometimes a two day event and you go to national main event again projected price. I two hundred thousand so when you win. I don't expect again. I don't expect an amateur to win the first place prize of thirty thousand dollars. I do expect them to make five thousand dollars for himself. All expense paid the league's they pay your trip some of them pay for the hotel room or the flight. That's it no one pays for everything. The nba hill is slated to pay for everything. All the players have to do is fill the field. That's all ask. Players have to do their part in their area to fill a field of thirty two. It's it so more money no commitment you play one event you win it great go into the nationals fully covered and winning big money if you don't win the event that's it play again when you want to there's no commitment there's a designed for the weekend warrior who has a family as a job that can't commit to week after week after week after week playing who can't stand relying upon their teammates or if you're the powerhouse of your team and they're always relying upon you for the win as another thing you don't have to worry about you're winning for yourself you don't have to chase them later on we may have special events teams but i'm not really interested in even going down that avenue right now right now we just need a pro tour we're structured like golf so we have to you know start off like that i and grow from there okay well i again you know i see the big picture i wish you all the success in the world i mean certainly it would benefit all of us what you have in mind doesn't just benefit the amateur player had benefits the entire industry and and that's what we need the amateur player can qualify that can get a full paid trip all expenses paid and when more money at the main event professionals don't have to compete against the asian players coming over and robbing our tournaments the euros coming over and robbing tournaments the venues that are involved. Don't have to put any money in. This is regular for traffic. This is something designed for the industry to have and then we keep saying the industry but we're just a bunch of scattered independent events and independent promoters and whilst players looking for something we need to really be a unified industry and just because it has an nba logo on. It doesn't mean that it can't have an ap patch on a player so again bar leagues sponsor your players in put your local pash on them. They win the qualifier. That pass gets promoted in the nba events as well. I want the promotion of players to focus. I want to stimulate want to stimulate the activity pool rooms once again. Not just the bars. The main events are also going to be in hosting venues in a pool room. Novotels no ballrooms no casinos. They also take from us without giving back. They might put up a twenty five thousand dollar added but they're making three million dollars on a on the craps table in return so we have to keep it within our own and keep our own my through broadcasting platforms not outside all that all that money to comes in through those advertising venues or pay per views or anything goes back to the players goes back with we keep it within the industry and we all share. Then we have a pie. Everyone wants a piece of a pilots not even a pie only crumbs all fighting over him that there is no pot we have to create it. We don't have one. We don't have the structure had the structure. Let's say this structure and a lot of professionals are waiting to happen. They're excited a lot of time. I don't wanna put them on the chopping block. But you know that's there so we have health benefits in the works. Have 401k plan. In the work we have our own broadcasting platform. We can be the nba channel on her own and i also have deals right now working with roku tv apple tv and all the way of the wave of the future of broadcasting not only through streaming and pay per view but also regular television networks. Already in the works. i already have a player protection. Plan as far as the player representatives. They can play agent to protect players. Use of likeness and their footage. All in the works on the board of directors were joined up the contracts now and these are contracts not own players as many organizations tried to do before where player can't play in another event or does not our event. We can't no. It's not the control. The players is to protect the players from being taken advantage of. They have been several years and several. A pros are ready to sign the contract. It's not done yet. There's a lot of legality to work out. Wanna make sure it is in the in your best interest and you're fully covered. That's all i've got my well and that's quite a bit. That's a lot to swallow for anybody. And i certainly don't envy you trying to keep track of all that but again i your time. You know you're always willing to come on the show and talk about plans where you're at with them. I appreciate that. And i look forward to catching up with you again. Here down the road and a couple of months and seeing where things are. Thank you very much time like i appreciate the opportunity. All right you guys do thanks. Okay that was ed. Feel fred. he the game. The game seems to gather people who who love the sport and wanna do something good for it and they see they see where the game is at the game of pro pool and they want so much better for it and and they want to you know especially with eddie. He wants to do everything he wants to fix. Everything it's not. It's not a quick process. If you're going to fix game of professional pool you've got to drag it kicking and screaming to that fix because the players and the room owners and they've heard so long that this is going to be it and this idea is going to be it and all you gotta do his trust. I mean it's almost like the pool. Players have been in an abusive relationship and their partner. Well as far as pool goes a different partner keeps telling them no. No this one will be the one. This one will be the one. Just just trust me and well you know. That's where we are and don't get me wrong. I i wish ed all the luck in the world. And i i love his ideas and he he's motivated and and he's not in any way lying about what he wants to do. He believes in what he wants to do. And if he's able to make everything happened that he wants to try to do. The game will be in an amazing place but is going to have to drag the pool players. They're kicking and screaming. So that's that's dowie. That's the episode. This week i appreciate everybody listening. Remember american billiard. Radio is now part of the queue it up network and as we've talked about in the past. The it up network is a a collection of podcasts. That have joined together to try to give the pool player. Podcast listener as much content as they can possibly have because chalk is cheap and queue it up in american billiard radio if you just listen to one of those or if you just listen to them. You're not getting the whole picture. You know there's a whole lot more out there and and believe me there's more than just the three of us you know. Joey ryan's doing a great job over there with player. Podcast and i see things on facebook for podcasts. That are happening over in europe. But as far as america billiard radio goes where part of the qaeda network newly formed network Chalk is cheap with nicholson queue it. Up with dimitrius and robin nate and then american build radio with myself so. I know that nick has an interview with rodney morris. Coming up for a chalk. Cheap episode tuesday the whole gang. I'm not sure what kind of what. Kind of cluster. That's going to be but the whole gang should be getting together tuesday for an episode. Bring everybody up to speed on their own individual outlook on the game. But as far as this episode goes that was dowie. I'm my couch again. This is american billiard radio and thank you for listening and dave. We are always thinking about you.

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46 - Plastic

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46 - Plastic

"Each Listener Support W. NYC Studios hello welcome to sideshow Tangents Lightly Competitive Knowledge Showcase starring some of the geniuses. Dan Uses the Victory Youtube series sideshow happened. This week is always. I'm joined by Steph and welcome how you doing bud. I'm all right What's your tag on? Oh I'm real busy like a be buzz buzz. I Dunno at the great so minister Sam. I'm show is also here good they might go. What's your favorite Marsupial? There's only like four of them that marsupial mammals smaller kangaroo kind of bigger longer and then a bunch of wallabies all counts Zina's possum as a Marsupial yeah with the one. We got that one my favorite. I like that I like them. They're cute. I think I liked it. They're cute and then really scary yeah on the sides of their mouth. What's your tigon roast beef? You eefje like sorry Riley's also here. I am how're you doing okay. I'm wearing a vacation. It's time for vacation. Sarah Buckle up kids ooh would start and I'm hank green and my tagline is one hundred per Saleh gator every week here on Sochaux tangents to get together to try to one up amazing delayed each other with the facts about science playing for glory and we're also keeping scar an awarding wording Hank Bucks from a week to week so we do what we can to stay on topic but the podcast is called tangents and if you're tangent is deemed unworthy will force you to give up one of your Hank Bucks and as always choice. We're going to introduce this week's topic with additional science poem this week it's from me long organic polymers of high molecular weight massive chains ends of Atoms twisty curved or straight sometimes created from fossil fuels sometimes from agriculture. It's a useful and convenient part of our disposable culture. We use it every day of course as Barbie said life in plastic is fantastic as long as we're not dead yeah yeah wife plastic is dead. I added Aloe Yeah because you know plastics do have their downsides and I don't want them to I don't know I feel like we worry a lot about politics like the oceans clogged with plastic. I'm like ooh. It's there but small yeah. It's a big ocean. There are bad bad areas so it's fine but it's not like Texas sized island of plastic. Which is the impression I get some time? I thought there was a thought there was no will then what what are we worried about. I mean there is the Great Pacific Garbage Patch that is it's micro-plastics mostly yeah you like incised area where there's a slightly higher concentration of rancor plastic in the water yeah or you know we could sit. It's it's you know how much higher than you would like right right but he kept like walk on. It was just a rubber ducky is on kinds of stuff just floating out there well. That's the other thing is that like the the classic in the ocean is mostly mostly fishing nets and that's also the most concerning piece of plastic designed to catch fish in it but we do have too much plastic does last forever and we should stop drinking out of disposable containers. I agree when people are so close to not doing that anymore and that's kind of relapsed to Williams what direction where we going where we stopped drinking soda or thinking taking more about like don't use plastic water bottles right now. It likes right out yeah. Nobody cares anymore except what's plastic career. He did a pretty good job to find it in the poem because it is a organic compound often along Polymer Jane Okay we got unpack some things here what's an organic compound so yeah so it's a carbon containing compound and they can be synthetic or semi synthetic so they can be made from just manmade manmade materials like chemicals or they can be made from like structural compounds that we find in nature and that we react with one another like says there any purely natural natural plastic like rubber from rubber trees. This is where the definition gets a little fuzzy for me because I'm not a material scientist sure it seems like rubber is not plastic. Okay Okay because plastics main property is plasticity so that it deforms irreversibly but rubbermaid property as elasticity which means that deforms on snaps back into its original shape rubbers can be mixed with plastics to form different compounds but they are too like ends of a material material science and now it's time for one of our panelists has prepared three sides facts for us but only one of those facts this is true and the rest of us have to guess or no which one is the real fact and if we get it right we get the Hank Bucket if not Sarah gets the Hank Book Seri. It's time for you to try and fool US event. Semi synthetic plastics have been around for a while like how celluloid film can be traced back to the sugar polymers cellulose from plants if you can get a substance to pull him rise through through chemical reactions and have flexibility. You basically made a plastic so I guess I contradict myself already trek so which of these proteins was historically used to make a plastic elastic number one case in from milk to try and make a raceable whiteboards instead of black chalkboards okay gross to hemoglobin mclovin from animal blood to make jewelry beads that oxidized to be a deep red hue over time for three can Volkswagen from snake venom to make exceptionally strong but expensive plastics us in handguns for decoration and functionality. WHOA convulsing Yeah Yeah An X. C. O. N. B. U? L. X. who won something instinct definitely don't put that add inside of you then I've heard of the that protein in milk. The other stuff goes road white milk whiteboards also white makes me think it's alive live. That's misleading connections. That seems like one of those things where you're just trying to play on my like biases my psychological bias. I guess I'm not sure if the trick is is what it was made into or exists ochre hemoglobin turned it like it's just a very complicated protein hemoglobin. It seems like it would be a difficult thing to preliminary is as my my main concern with that one is it easier to plummer is simple things well. Most Palmer's are really simple. does hemoglobin have. Is that the part heart that has the iron yeah so hemoglobin is a complex of different proteins like four different proteins around the sort of iron containing part of again again there that seems like a lie because then it's like okay the hemoglobins the iron and you make a beat in it. oxidises like iron twinkling yeah I mean making snake venom into guns also feels best just weird. It must be true. It feels kind of like the same kinda lowered its white. It's a whiteboard. It's a snake and it's a gun is going to kill. You and it's still gonNA kill you. Okay okay. I see that it's it's it's it's blood like object to be. I'm leaning towards case and making White Ford's means. I think though I want 'cause I know case in is like a thing that they tried to make into stuff. I'm going to go with the snake venom one scoreless Nick Van. I'M GONNA go with my own gut. I'm not gonNA listen to these boneheads overtake. They knew the answer on sorry Stephan de and the Snake Venom one is just the one that I completely made up because snakes and if you can put venom into anything what would rich people oh by a fancy gun yeah did they try to make blood into stuff into products like plastic products so yeah there was a thing called Hima site it in eighteen eighty five which was apparently animal blood which they didn't have a use for mixed with Sawdust and then this article Cole in whatever old newspaper I found was not very specific. It said some chemicals they mushed together and really squeezed it to make it compact hacked and they would make the doorknobs out of it would make roller skating wheels out of what's called Hima Site H. E. M. C. I. T. It was like a tough material material. I don't think it would be considered a plastic necessarily on what no. I don't think I don't think it had a it was a polymer thing. It was just like very squished together would with blood what is a binder in in twenty eighteen. Apparently someone took one hundred percent cow's blood and also put it under a lot of pressure and dry it out and made into into some sort of compounds like people have turned into solid objects before nice. Can I do that can like Catherine and I make blood jams and where where the money is fingers Cheryl blood diamonds yes but milk plastics totally thing which is really weird to me. Yes weird polymerase a pro team yeah it was first created around eighteen ninety seven and patented in eighteen ninety nine when in a German materials scientist or printing press owner something like that it was developed as an alternative to blackboard boards they were like what can we do to make a whiteboard basic but it didn't end up being good for whiteboards but it was fairly easy to make as far as synthetic plastics go at the time it was easy to color whatever you want it ends up became a staple in like jewelry and other. It was basically anything you could think think of for a cheap plastic at the time people used it as that and it became popular when Coco Chanel I think used what is called Galilee with or case in plastic because the name of it in an ad like an clothing Adam people were like oh milk plastic is fashionable. Okay next up. We're going to take a short break and then it's time for the fact off hello and welcome back Hank Buck totals as for the episode thus far Sarah. You have one Sam you have one Stephan you have zero and I have to as I did so my comeback time well. I guess sure yeah come back because it's time for the fact off in which two of our panelists this week Stephan and Sam are going to present a mean sorry science facts in an attempt to blow our minds. Our minds are sturdy so you have to work Hong. We each have a hank buck toward the fact that we like the most but if we hate them both we can and throw them away and burn them in the fire and decide who goes first. We're going to go by WHO which one of you has the most credit cards on you right now ooh on. I don't carry all all of mine with me. I have a debit card. It's just loosen your fucking to live dangerous when you got three three is one of my debit card. It's five including debit card how guys five to debit cards and I have an Amazon Zahn card and Atari Card and a costco card. Oh I see you're loaded down with plag- guy that'll give me your fats. Do It so I think we've talked about before on the show. The different ways that bees are affected by the presence of humans like colony collapse disorder that kind of thing but some species of bees which I didn't know for a longtime are solitary so they don't have hives or make a bunch of honey and honeycomb and all that in those species each individual female has to construct its own nest and it seems like a lot of the time they like to find little long narrow tube holes to do that in yeah and some of these species are also leaf cutter bees have really strong like manuals that let them cut little sections of leaves out and then they bring those back to their tube in like line the walls and make a little nest and so in the last ten years what we've been seeing is that various leaf cutter bees are incorporating pieces of plastic into the nest construction okay instead of cutting out little bits of leaf. They'll cut out a bit of of like a plastic bag or something like that still like soft and thin pliable plastic but then they incorporate that into the lining their nests cells there was a two thousand nineteen report. That was the first time that they'd seen the entire nest constructed out of classic. They were even stealing little bits of polyurethane based sealants off of buildings links to like glue the latest together but we are yeah those from like material to like sealant like everything that they were using plastic based East and they don't really know if it's good or bad it could be a sign that like they're just really adaptable and like grabbing whatever's there right and they can make it work but it could mean that like the plants that they normally used for that sort of thing or not around as much they did say that it didn't seem like the best building material because they found found only three cells total in this one nest and one had a dead larva in it and one seemed to have worked fine and then the other one wasn't finished so not the best track record there also a pretty small sample but right yeah but in other papers they had noted that like they'd seen bees nesting in straws Nokia in that protected them them from parasites because they can't penetrate the straw within they also lose most of the larvae to mold because it can also get rid of moisture so kind of uh-huh. I just did not build a bee nest out of Boba teas straws had that thought you know in a pinch it might be able. I'M NOT GONNA speak for the B.'s. I'm not a representative of the alliance of Bees but yeah so that that's the fact is that they they had a one hundred percent plastic banana style. They found the bodies like the PLA like there's some bees who think they think that might be one. The possibilities to is that there's some reason they haven't figured out yet that the bees actually preferred using a plastic like this is great. It's super gets not rotting. It's like an ahead insurable and I can do a better seal with this stuff that I can would leave parasites. They also mentioned that they've seen like birds lining their nests with cigarette butts because it keeps parasites out but it probably isn't great for the eggs or yeah so yeah. I don't know I like it or not covered this. I need you to go interview. Bees go find them. I am the Steph and I speak for the hello. My name is Stephan. May I interest you boba teas. GotTa what Abo- Oh between Sam. What's your fact all right so in America in the eighteen sixties billiards was a big honking deal billiards but like caboodle in general I think any pool so there were thousands of pool halls across the country but America's foremost billiard ball manufacturer Falen and colander had a big problem billiard balls made out of ivory and the tables and other accessories that were made for billiard balls took into account like how ivory every moved how bounced how heavily was but ivory was incredibly expensive and they are running out of people who were rich enough to be able to afford a set of billiard balls they needed needed to come up with a cheaper solution fast so they offered ten thousand dollars in cash or two hundred thousand dollars in today money to anybody who could come up with an alternative to ivory every to use for these balls so John Wesley Hyatt who was a photo printer from Albany and his brother Isaiah heard about this competition and it just happened that John had had fairly recently acquired a patent from British inventor named Alexander Parks for a waterproofing agent that was made when parks realized that when a a certain kind of developing agent dried like a hard left behind thing he had a lot of this stuff sitting around dry so they started messing around with it and figured out how how to Hartnett and shape it and they made their own ivory free pool balls and they dubbed the thing that they were made out of celluloid their new balls had a few problems that prevented them from actually winning the contest so mainly was that they were kind of just really shitty the bounce right the infield right? Nobody who played pool like with them and the company would not give them the prize money for it but they still set up a pool supply company and they sold even worse versions of the balls that were just plaster. They had a thin layer. the stuff on there like you don't like our balls fine. We'll show you bad ball but it seems like a lot of people out West bought them but the lack of quality of the ball seems like a small issue compared with another problem which is at celluloid a super flammable so hall yeah when the balls would hit together too hard they would make a little explosion catching fire a huge explosion but like loud enough that they were getting letters from people out West I own bars who said did that win. This would happen the people in the bars all draw their guns eventually they pivoted celluloid into fo ivory products products in general like combs and buttons for close but they also had the same problem where if you were like in the sun too long and they got too high or something like that they will burst into flames what and then eventually of course they started using celluloid for movie film reels and now it also catch on fire fire and kill everybody in the theater or occasionally that would happen to but it was like good enough yeah so at the end of the day it was good enough that it was the first commercially really successful form of plastic and also probably kick started people trying to find forms of plastic that did not explode yeah this celluloid brothers today were they like commercially successful like when we started using celluloid film like they made money off of that I think cellular phone came him after them go because they couldn't find anything that linked their company to making that shirt but I- celluloid fashion products pretty successful and they roy combs and stuff that like when you have like a thing on your head a barack that just like you go outside for too long in your head catches on this is this is a bad thing and Did they feel bad. I don't see why anybody early human life yeah. It was the team pool. Supply Company was successful. Even they're making bad balls else making bad balls for way cheaper and people out West. They don't know they've never seen as an eye revolt. Yeah it's all brand new and they're like it's great because sometimes they go by my Powell uh-huh and then it bounces different when there's an explosion you know that's an introduction of new. If you really want the ball to move fast you've gotta hit an extra hard and then there's an explosion pool to answer more features to ten so we've got solitary bees constructing their nests entirely entirely of plastic sometimes but also more than sometimes partially out of plastic and we got Sam with exploded billiard balls from the eighteen sixties that were so bad no one would use them except that then they went on to be a commercially successful product that occasionally like help people I'm GonNa give my point my paint buck to Stephan because I didn't know about bees and plastics and even though we're slowly destroying the earth. I like to think that there are some species out there that could maybe adapt and so maybe they won't die of mold at some point in his very dry B.'s I'M GONNA give mine to Sam because I love weird science history and the all of the all of the stupid little directions we went on the way to getting to where we are now even if it did make your head catch on fire now I have the ask the science couch we've got a question to be read to us by Sam for our couch of finally hold scientific mind at s path seventy seventy three asks what exactly is corn plastic. I don't think the corn plastic is any one thing so you can you know once you got organic compounds. You can pull him reisman various ways but I think that there there's more than one way to turn corn into plastic molecules from corn into a polymer and sometimes uh-huh you do that with the intent for it to be it's easily by people are like Oh that must be easier to compost but like not if you don't have that as a goal right so it's sort of it depends on what you end up doing with it is the thing that like because we talked about cellulose to and like is it a property of sugars that because their sugars are made up of these like chains of things that that makes it easier to make into a plastic which is a chain of it has the carbon. They're it's like it hasn't husband to forget it. Compounds a cellulose is a polymer to Palmer of sugar but like I think a lot of what happens is you break that down and you create great ethanol or or something like that and that sort of your feet stock going into the biochemical process mad. I guess is that because cellulose is a structural polymer of glucose in the way that like Blige's less structural and just exists or gene but like cellulose is like gives plant structure so then it itself is a sturdier compound and then can add functional groups onto it or break it down a reassemble at an L. Make something sturdy like plastic whereas like glycogen from our bodies. It'd be floppy in a mall going jonasson yeah trash. Yes good at one thing a hot. Take thank you. Jim is fine. It's very the only thing it does which is just store energy for quick availability in our bodies but yes cellulose is very sturdy very good at being sturdy and then if you know how to do organic chemistry can do organic chemistry to it. I'm not sure how corn last actually happens if you you are using the sugar from the corn or if using the cellular's from the corn born in mines probably both so the reading that I've done corn is usually used to make one type of plastic called poly lactic acid which is made from fermented plant starch starch is another sugar polymer their cellulose and starch and those are the two like plant sugar polymers but you have to ferment it. I I see acid starches. The other one's cellulose is one of the structural plant sugar compound starches the other and like the fermentation is probably just like the chemical reactions yeah. You need to turn it into the plastic. I don't have specifics about that process. I don't know if it's proprietary or if I'm just like not chemist so didn't dig dig into the the research about that and you can also make it from other plants besides corn defined starchy compounds you can turn it into poly lactic acid through this this process and benefits of corn plastic that are like proponents of of corn plastic say that it's carbon neutral because it's coming from plants that absorb absorb carbon from the environment and then returning back into plastic that goes gets reintroduced and the environment again so it's like the whole process ankle as a whole rather than just like generating trash and corn which would have been trash at some point like poop. We're turning into plastic that we then throw away four four in a deal world compost to recycle it back and is this stuff is poly. LACTIC ACID is the compostable it is compostable but what is interesting Zane is that it's only compostable in specific conditions under specific conditions what a scientific American article looked into they talked the people who actually do this kind of composting work. Poly lactic acid will decompose carbon dioxide and water in a controlled composting environment in fewer than ninety days but what that means is they need to have microbes digest yet not just worms not dislike backyard composting thing it has to reach one hundred forty degrees for ten consecutive cutive days and so it's like biodegradable but there are only like between one hundred and one hundred fifty facilities as of the writing time I am of this article that can compost things in this very specific industrial way to handle food processing waste are compatible waste in this way and you can't just like conflicts tutoring yard yeah and like that is also choice that you have to make create so like people have these corn pasta but if they're thrown into landfills there's no evidence at bell degrade any faster than any other type of plastic so this has to be very intentional change in the way that people use these single use plastic objects objects and so if you fro- poly lactic acid cup into a landfill. It's like to start any other plastic cup in the landfill yeah and there's no benefit from one plastic in that way what also says apparently so you can make a bunch of different plastics from corn but now we like the thing corn plastic is poly lactic acid this sort of like we've decided that that's what we're gonNA. Call poly lactic acid is corn plastic but it is not the only place you could make from corn which is interesting. How many plastic Eczema from corn will you can make polyethylene from corn so just normal polyethylene but it select from a different feed the stock and then you can make and I think that's true of various like existing mm plastics? I guess that makes sense. If you break down corn enough then you can get right monomer you can then polymerase into something. If you want to ask the science catch your questions follow us on twitter at Sochaux tangents where we'll tweet out upcoming topics for our future episodes every week. 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Thank you and remember the mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire but one more thing in two thousand eighteen a group of Australian scientists had six adults swallow the head of a Lego mini figure in order to figure yeah how long it would take for travel through their bodies so first they established the participants standard poop characteristics and habits before eating the Lego heads and formulated what they called the stool hardness and transit or Shat score then took another shot score after it was in their bodies and traveling through their digestive systems systems and then they measured the amount of time the LEGO had spent in their subject systems with the found and retrieved time or the Fart they found no meaningful changes in the Shatt score before and after the eating of the head and determine an average score of one point seven one days and they concluded that basically you can eat like oh heads all day long and not suffer any negative repercussions from it feel like my score would be lower than that well but you know he probably would have been filtered out of

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Nottingham Road Hotel- South Africa

Hauntingly Yours: A Podcast for the Paranormal

29:58 min | 10 months ago

Nottingham Road Hotel- South Africa

"God what is it about the unknown that fascinates us so much. Is it for the thrill of it all or do we seek proof of life after death? Whatever reason maybe we find ourselves being drawn in by these places at the bone Chilling Tales that they have to offer tortured Souls crossed boundaries to reach out with stories that I want to share with us. There are times. We simply hear The Echoes of a memory on moving the question that remains is this are you open minded enough to handle it off dive into the Paranormal with the DC O'Rourke your personal guide as we Traverse the globe to dissect haunted places in each and every episode of Haunting the yours off. podcast for the Paranormal where the spirits are always waiting waiting off off off off off. Welcome back friends. I'm DC O'Rourke. And this is hauntingly yours. Here. We all are together once again tuning in for yet another episode to learn the World's haunted places 4 episode 12 you and I will be putting on our safari gear as we are headed to the coastal province of wait for it off Hulu guitar in South Africa. This is truly a beautiful beautiful beautiful location guys. It's known for its beaches. It's mountains, it's Jose Jimenez that are full the wildlife. It's definitely a must-visit location. If you need a place to stay well, why not look into the office in Nottingham Road Hotel just on Old Main Road legend has it that there have been establishments on this site since 1851. Before that's a long time. There was a not he's in or Tavern situated here that provided a hang out spot for soldiers who were stationed at nearby Fort Nottingham. The soldiers they were brought in for one mission in particular and that was to protect the local farmers from the thieving Bushman who were coming around and stealing their livestock. Apparently it become a real problem in these men did absolutely whatever they could to put an end to it. The overall location at this establishment, but it was ideal. It was actually able to cater to the mini horse-drawn carriages that passed through the area. This was a long before way would even be thought about the First Recording. Thanks about the hotel. We know today indicate that the land for the noughties as locals like to affectionately call. It was bought by a George Irwin around 1889 following the deaths of landowner James Ellis and his sister Jani-King the land being sold by the facts to pay off the siblings the States. What was the price received for that land a whopping sum of 125 pounds per acre. Wow. This was actually mean pretty steep for the time. My guess. It has that it had something to do with the favorable Loco. chicken I mean we have to stop and look at the fact that it's pretty much at a Crossroads where the road to the interior leads to the road that takes you straight to Fort Nottingham door window. He went on to a ranked what he called the Railway Hotel to serve the station that was built at the tiny Nottingham Road settlement. Local farmer and settler George Smith. Yes, Smith s m y bhe he writes in his diary July 12th 1882 off. The railway has it lasts commenced and there is a large staff of men on gallery busy putting a buildings in beginning the Earthworks. The station is to be just at the cross the road for Nottingham about two miles from straight turn. The railway line finally reached out to him Road at the end of 1885. The station was initially called Harrison's Camp after the contractor prior to the station's opening before being called Clark Lewis station. However, the name was changed to Nottingham Road station in 1887 as the locals decided that it was too far from karkloof to be so named previously Littleton was the last stop the real we changed the lives of the Midland settlers forever. There was a daily postal system and almost anything they needed could now be ordered from Durban or. It's Burg produce from the area could be quickly sent to the city centers for sale and travel between the coast and the interior was a matter of hours rather than weeks or days the railway also led to the development of the Midlands as a viable area for settlement that my opinion is always a great thing. The Railway Hotel was built by a mr. Morgan and was completed at the beginning of 1891 and it soon became the center of social activity at Nottingham Road. A gracious two-story building was set and rolling Lawns the hotel offered guess the Comforts of proper lighting package tennis courts and a Billiards room as well as activities such as shooting and horseback riding at the turn of the century another family took over the the last name Singleton. They would go on to run the business as they saw fit. But Nottingham Road Hotel was always the local favorite haunt weather for a social drink in the pub or for supposedly more serious matters such as meetings of the Dead Nottingham Road Farmers Association. Apparently, the farmers will often only survived home safely because they're faithful horses knew the way back to their Stables off the the system works smoothly until a prankster swapped the horses between the different traps and cards. So that drunken farmers were taken off in completely different directions often the locals would decide to stay over at the hotel especially at the weather was bad. One such farmer a Christopher groom was trying to reach the hotel to Shelter From a storm. He was unable to reach it in time and was unfortunately struck by a bolt of lightning just down side right where the first tennis courts were located in his dead horse were actually discovered some time later when the storm had passed over the bridge just man quite unaware of his narrow escape a hole was found straight through his saddle and it showed where that bolt of lightning had struck. Like all hotels or the history the Nottingham Road hotel is reputed to be haunted. Of course right in the past two guests and staff have reported that the spirit of a woman roams the hotel especially room 10:00 and it's ground this house proud gentle ghosts. Apparently. She was flower arrangements Tiny's away clothes and straightens wedding Legend has it that she is Charlotte a beautiful prostitute who frequent in the hotel catering were soldiers from the 45th regiment in the latter part of the nineteenth Century, her story says that she fell in love with a regular at the hotel a soldier a handsome man ended up having to leave Charlotte at one point to go off and fight in the Bushman Wars. Unfortunately, he was killed on the fields of battle and birth. Made it back to his beloved Charlotte upon hearing the news took to the balcony of her room and was so stricken with grief that she threw herself to her deathbed. Send story right? I'd say that so pretty it's pretty good reason to come back as a ghost. She's not the only one that lurks around in the darkness though God. Oh, no as it would turn out Charlotte. She's just the one who likes to appear the most. Today not he's is one of the Midlands more popular hotels. It's dark and cozy it has a wood-paneled pub with Rory log fires on colder nights and and it offers tasty pub fare and beer on tap while the more elegant dining room doubles as a multi-purpose room off the bedrooms are comfortable in a spacious Garden offers a relaxed place to enjoy a sunny Midlands afternoon. It doesn't matter how old the place is not he's hotel is one of the areas in most popular landmarks and it boasts a colorful history of more than a century area that has been known to please travelers from all over the world. The spirits here are full body and more ways than one. One lovely spring afternoon the front desk manager of the hotel at the time found himself in the middle of a phone call a potential guests was inquiring about room availability and see what sorts of activities that they offered because they had two young children. Well, the manager was doing his best to answer all the colors questions when all of a sudden a mysteriously gorgeous woman in a black Victorian Era gown glided past the front desk without saying a word to him cuz the manager to do a double-take. He'd never seen the woman up until that moment. She wasn't a guest of the hotel that he was aware of. The woman continued past the desk and entered the kitchen as if she were on a mission. Now the manager was confused. He said the phone down and he went to investigate upon entering the kitchen. He called out to her. Pardon me Madam. I do believe you're lost the room appeared to be empty from what he could see in The Echoes of his boys bounced off the different walls and made them back to his ears a creepy feeling washed over him which naturally made him feel rather uneasy out of nowhere the mysterious woman reappeared and quickly darted into the adjacent conference room the way in which this woman moved killed the front desk manager. He knew she was not of this Earth. Was it the beautiful Charlotte he had heard so much amount the beautiful prostitute who once roamed these Halls so terribly long ago, He didn't quite know but he knew there was something weird going on. Rington the most active hot spot in the entire Hotel rumor has it that this is where Charlotte was staying when she threw herself to her Death From a Balcony guests who have stayed in this room have reported any and all sorts of strange happenings. They will find problems with their television turning off while you're in the middle of watching. It footsteps have been heard in and even outside the room late into the night fresh flowers have been discovered on certain occasions beds have been made with fresh Linens and suitcases have even been unpacked the staff certainly does not mind whose as few things as good hellbitch. Sometimes hard-to-find. One night a male guest found himself drifting off to sleep in room 10. The room is very comfortable. By the way with whatever modern amenities a traveler might need it had been a long journey and just as the guest was nearly asleep he heard what sounded like footsteps walking across the room toward the bathroom. He lifted his head gently and peered through the darkness a strange figure can barely be seen hunched over the sink. Not sure if it was a hotel staff member. He called out to them. Hello wage. What are you doing in there? Is there some sort of problem? No one answered him back the water to the sink did turn on. Well, the guests heard it and wondered what in the world was happening. He got out of bed slowly and turned on a nearby lamp as he looked over at the bedroom. There wasn't anyone there that he could see he walked across the room. Hello. He tried soliciting her response Once More by the time he reached the bathroom. He realized whomever it was they were definitely no longer there the water to the sink continue to run without any explanation. So we turned it off and he went back to bed. Several hours passed and the sun prepared to raise its weary head the water to the same came on without any Rhyme or Reason in the bathroom the guest who lied sleeping so quietly suddenly awoke to the sounds thinking that it was all part of a bad dream. He was having wiping his eyes. He got up from bed. He walked across the room to deal with this problem once more he stood there at the sink for a moment. This was to sneak range was this some sort of joke or prank of some sort. He turned the sink off one last time and then he heard footsteps quickly making their way to his dorm. He hurried in that direction and out of the bathroom as fast as he could go and just at the last second he witnessed the door to his bedroom as it slammed. Well, this joke wasn't funny anymore. And honestly, it creeped him out. He ran to the door opened it up looked out at all of the second floor off. There was no one in sight. He decided right then and right there that he most certainly needed a wrong room change. On another completely different occasion a female employee of the hotel found herself in need of accommodations for a couple of days. She got the infamous room 10, of course and it put her on edge. She was reassured by her manager that everything would be all right, and that the the resident ghosts were always friendly reluctantly. She took the room and settled in for her first night stay. Have one point in the middle of the night. She was woken. Abruptly to a set of strange sounds she turned on the bedside lamp. It sounded like someone was crying just near the bed just a few feet away from her stood a little boy with blonde hair and he was dressed in old-fashioned clothes. The staff member was so terrified. She reached for her Bible just near the lamp and held it out in front of her. There was something off about this little boy and she didn't care to find out what she held that money most steadfast and she told him to leave at once. He didn't budge the sounds of crying began to fill the room again, but the child was stock still in his mouth never moved. It remained closed the poor woman closed her eyes now and instructed the boy to lie. He once more when she opened them it was gone the experience still bothers her until this very day. From there. We moved to the tail of a mother and daughter who came to stay at the hotel a few years ago. They were assigned room too and ended up staying for a week or so Thursday. Oh absolutely wonderful by all accounts with the exception of their last night. There was an early check out time the next morning the mother had been insistent that they get as much sleep as they possibly could at some point in the middle of the night though mother awoke to what felt like someone placed in their hands on her ankles. They were holding her down. The pressure was on a real she sat up slowly and adjusted her eyes looking down at her feet. She couldn't see anyone there. Well, she looked over at her daughter her daughter was fast asleep next to her. The hands moved up Ur legs and the pressure became heavier the mother didn't know what the hell was going on, but it needed to end right then and right there the hands moved higher and higher all wild and pressure just weighed down on top of her like somebody was actually laying on her finally the pressure reached her chest when she started struggling to breathe her hands clutched at her throat and no matter how hard she tried. She she couldn't muster up a single play for help with thankfully her daughter awoke to all the movement going on and noticed her mother flailing about she reached over with both hands and no sooner. She touched her the pressured it'd just be completely dissipated and she could breathe again. I don't know what you guys but that is some freaky stuff right there. No, thank you. I will have a different room, please. Thanks. A front desk clerk had a rather frantic woman come running up to him one morning just a few summers ago. She told him that he needed to follow her at 1 a.m. All the pictures on the wall upstairs were falling to the ground and breaking the clerk followed her weight behind her actually and the two of them took to the booster case and went all the way to the top as they drew near they could hear the sounds of pictures hitting the flooring Clash shattering all over the place. Another woman had come out of her room and was trying to help pick up the pictures as they fell. The second floor walls are all decorated with photographs of the different soldiers of the 45th regiment who used to frequent this hotel earlier on in the afternoon. It's just the day before the photos had been taken down for cleaning when they were put back on the wall. They were placed in different spots. They were spread out more evenly as well to make sure every bit of wall space was covered based off the circumstances. I think it's pretty obvious. There's somebody who's in disagreement with the new placement of these particular photographs the clerk in the woman who had brought the matter to his attention scrambled around they did what they could they picked up what photographs they could get their hands on no matter how hard they tried. So no matter how hard they try to clean up the mess. These has unknown entity just continued to throw photographs on the floor. Throughout the rest of the hotel strange apparitions have been seeing going to and from different places some tend to linger by the staircase near the front desk a While others pop down to the pub to Revel in the atmosphere the owners of the hotel Mr. And Mrs. Faust, they say that their hotel is a family-friendly place off and there isn't any need to worry about the resident ghosts. They have just made themselves at home and they are just as much a part of the place as they are. Back in 2007 Ghost Hunters International and came across this location and rented out the entire place for themselves. They came in mint. Mr. Foss and got a good rundown of the the history and this Pookie encounters people have had over the years. They went to work straight away. Oh, no, I think their experience was rather involved significant a few EVPs were picked up on noises were heard and the ions in the air of the kitchen increased at one point, which is usually a pretty good sign that Paranormal Activity is about to take place the EVPs were simple. They got told to get out leave and so on and so forth one of the investigators at one point thought he should provoke Spirit which I do not agree with this at all. This guy challenged them to do something to touch him and make their presence Church. Down I absolutely hate this I really do spirits are not circus animals and they are not here to perform tricks for us either. They want to communicate or they don't it's really that simple. You should never ever provoke a spirit always be respectful just because they aren't alive anymore doesn't mean they don't have feelings too. I cannot stress that enough. A little bit of evidence that these guys collect it was enough for them to say the place was haunted. The owner was satisfied with what they had uncovered and thank them for coming out ever since they're dead departure though. It seems like paranormal investigators have been coming from all over the world in search of Charlotte in the many other spirits that still called off adding him Road Hotel home. Some of them have experiences that they cannot easily easily explained While others don't have a a single experience at all. That's the name of the game though, isn't it? I find that paranormal investigation as a whole was just this we can stay in a location off all night long and nothing could come up come of it at all whatsoever. There are no guarantees when it comes to Spirits. It's all about dead. Being in the right place at the right time and hoping they are feeling good enough to communicate with us. Whether easily a dozen more stories from this location, I think I'm going to let the buck stopped here experience the Nottingham Road hotels wage for yourself. If you ever get the chance have a plant in the pub and be wary that. The residents Spirits are watching from the Shadows. It's a house full of spirits after all never stop being curious. My friends read travel meet new people learn a new places on your own accord when we are all covid-19. Podcasts Facebook and Instagram pages I say both locations as I'm talking about more than one. I only mean one place, please check them also is M intention or done. So already joined the hauntingly yours Lounge on Facebook where you can meet like-minded people like ourselves catch up on all things paranormal follow along on Twitter and even Tik-Tok. Yeah. We have a tech talk now go like review subscribe and check out the merch store bought some merge and most importantly. Hello friend. I appreciate each and every one of you listeners more than you will ever know. For all the shows links be sure to check out the link tree l i n k t r. E hauntingly yours paranormal. Lastly. I'd like to give a big shout-out to clovercrest Media Group as wanting yours has just recently joined their ranks there a wonderful network with great posture broadcasters bringing you the best of the best and many different genres. Thanks for accepting me into the family guys. I am truly humbled to be amongst you all our next adventure will be our last four season one. I know if she's thirteen episodes will be in the bank before we know it. I figured it was appropriate to end each season with thirteen episodes. I mean, come on spoofing. Yeah bad luck and all that just by the way, I am going to be taking some much-needed time up so I can prepare for next season. I am going to be taking it down several notches. This season dope will be closing with a bang as we will be traveling to the most happily haunted place on Earth. Be sure to stay tuned for more on that. I have a feeling some listeners will be squirming and the ceiling. I'm sure if they can even finish the episode off until next time my friends. I'm DC O'Rourke. I am and will remain much like the spearheads hauntingly yours. off off off off

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Money Match and On The Wire

Pool Podcasts

1:01:06 hr | 2 years ago

Money Match and On The Wire

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#B253 (break to break)

The Dictionary

13:06 min | 10 months ago

#B253 (break to break)

"Hello word nerd welcome to the dictionary. This one might be a little bit long. So we are going to get into it. I was thinking about adding another word at the end, but I decided not to cuz it could be long enough. All right, so if you didn't listen to yesterday's episode shame on you go listen, and you would have learned that in this episode. We are reading the E intransitive verb definitions for the first form of the word break and then we will be reading the second form of break and that's it, but it's a lot off and you know what there's actually a bunch of phrases for the verb as well. So intransitive for break one a to escape with sudden forceful effort Thursday in the attacker broke from the throng one be to come into being by or as if by bursting forth as in day was breaking down. 1 C to affect a penetration as in break through security lines 1D to emerge through the surface of the water one e to start abruptly as in when the storm broke one F. Do you become known or published as in when the news broke 1G to make a sudden Dash as in break for cover one h two separate after a clinch in boxing one. I to achieve initial success in usually a sudden or striking way as in her song broke nationally 1 J boy. That's a lot for number one is the last one for number one one J to begin a race as in the horse broke poorly to a to come apart or split into pieces dead. Synonyms our fragment and shatter as in the cup broke when it fell to be this is where we flip a flip the page to 1:52 to be to open spontaneously or by pressure from within as in the blister broke one C is talking about a wave to curl over and falling apart in surf or foam 3 to interrupt ones activity or occupation for a brief period as in break for lunch 4 a.m. To alter sharply in tone pitch or intensity as in a voice a voice breaking with emotion. I mean I did more of the the teenage going through puberty voice breaking thing. But but yeah your voice breaks with emotion to 5 to become fair synonym is clear as in when the dog Their brakes 6 to make the opening shot of a game of pool. Some people can actually get one or two balls in the pockets on a geek which I think is very impressive 7 to end a relationship connection or agreement usually used with the words with or from break break from 8 to give way in to give way in disorderly Retreat nine a to Swerve suddenly 9,000 be to curve from a straight path as in a pitch that breaks away from the batter. Also as in a putt p u t t that breaks left 10 a to fail in health strength Vitality resolved or control as in may break under questioning ten be to become inoperative because of damage we're or strain as in the pump broke off even to fail to keep a prescribed gate g a i t and this is used as a horse 12 to undergo a sudden significant decrease in price range value or volume as in transportation stocks, May brake sharply 13 synonyms are happen and develop as in for the team to succeed. Everything has to break right it seems unnecessary or just has to go right has to I don't know fourteen to win against an opponent service dog. Tennis fifteen a two divided into classes categories or types usually used with the word into as in the Rose is broken into several varieties 15 be two-fold Bend lift or come apart at a seam groove or joint and then fifteen C is talking about cream to separate during churning into liquid and fat it breaks apart. Okay. Now we have a bunch of phrases break a leg used to wish you good luck, especially to a performer break bread. That means to dine together break Camp to pack up gear and leave a camp or campsite break cover or break covered with a T at the end that means to start from a covert or layer break covert brake cover interesting. So it page. We started as a covert. I think that I think I'm pronouncing that correctly and but then it become brake cover. Okay. Now we have break even to achieve a balance especially to operate a business or Enterprise without either loss or profit. Next is Break Free To Get Away by overcoming restraints or constraints wage restraints or constraints. What's the difference? What's the similarities there? Next is break ground. We have Let's see. We have number one to begin construction wage and number two could also be break new ground and that means to make or show discoveries synonym is Pioneer next is break into we have three editions for this one to begin with OR as if with a sudden throwing off of restraint as in broke into tears also as in face breaking into a smile faith. Breaking into a smile and also as in again the horse breaks into a Gallop number to to make entry or entrance into as in broke into the house also as in dog break into Show Business three synonym is interrupt as in break into a TV program with a news flash. Next is break one's heart that means to crush emotionally with sorrow. That's rough. Next is break one's wrists and that means to turn the wrists as part of the swing of Life club or bat. Next is break ranks or just break rank to differ in opinion or action from one's peers and that is often used with the word with neck is break the back of to subdue the main force of as in break the back of inflation break. The ice is next. There's two definitions for this one was dead. To make a beginning to to get through the first difficulties in starting a conversation or discussion. And then the last phrase for the verb form of break is break wind to expel gas from the intestine great way to end that one. All right. Now we have the second form of Break by the way all of that from the first from yesterday's episode into this one all these verbs and definitions and phrases. I just read it's all one block. Those were not separate entries. That was all just one big block of text. Okay, let's read a slightly shorter one. The second form of break is a noun from The 14th Century one a an act or action of breaking my voice sounds like it's breaking a little bit one be the opening shot in a game of pool or Billiards to a a condition produced by or as if birth. Breaking. I lost my place a second synonym is a gap as in a break in the clouds to be a gap in the otherwise continuous electrical circuit 3 the action or act of breaking in out or fourth as in at break of day also is in a jailbreak. I feel the arms coming on. So let's move this book and adjust the position of my neck. All right number for a place or situation at which a break occurs as for a the whole place at which a word is divided, especially at the end of a line of print or writing and I have an itch on my nose. Thank you for be the point or location at which waves break for surfing five an interruption in continuity as in a break in the weather of similar. We had a break in the clouds and they're breaking the weather we had other whether ones before and then it says as V A A notable change of subject matter attitude or treatment 5 be one and abrupt significant or noteworthy change or interruption in a continuous process Trend or Surface 5 be too long a respite from work school or Duty as in coffee break also was in spring break. 5 b 3 relief from annoyance often used to express exacerbation exasperation their exasperation or irritation in phrases like give me a break now we have five be for which I don't think we've seen one of those before a planned interruption in a radio or television program as in a break for the commercial 5c deviation of a pitched baseball from a straight line 5D is talking about mining life digging up the rocks and dirt and stuff and the synonyms for that one our fault and dislocation 5e failure of a horse to maintain the prescribed a gate 5 F and abrupt change in musical or vocal pitch or quality 5G the action or an instance of breaking service phone number. Tennis v h a usually solo instrumental passage in jazz folk or popular music 6 a synonyms are Dash and wedge Rush as in a baserunner making a break for home 6B synonym is fast-break seven a sudden and abrupt decline of prices or values eight a the start of a race eight be the act of separating after a clinch in boxing nine a a stroke of luck and especially of good luck as in a bad brake also is in got the brakes. Nine be a favorable or opportune situation synonym is chance as in Waiting for a big break in Show Business nine c ROM favorable consideration or treatment as in a tax break also is in a break on the price 10 a a rupture in previously agreeable relations as in a break between the two countries ten B and abrupt split or difference with something previously adhered to or followed as in Paul sharp break with tradition. And then number 11. We have the one C definition for the word breakdown which will be coming up soon. And then we have an example for that long suffered a mental breakdown. So I'm going to pick break as the word of the episode today. If I had to be more specific. I guess I would pick break wind as the phrase but that's what we got. Got. All right. Well, this was a kind of a long episode. So we're going to end it. Thank you very much for listening and until next time this is Spencer dispensing information go by

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Twelve Out of Ten with Emily Frazer

Pool Podcasts

1:07:05 hr | 11 months ago

Twelve Out of Ten with Emily Frazer

"Welcome back to American Billiard Radio today is Wednesday September sixteenth and I told you. We'd have to shows in a row I've. Come, well, I know what's come over me, but that's neither here nor there. got a little bit news. Our interview for this week. In today's News Billy Thorpe was picked for Team USA, in other news water is wet. Everybody knew that billy was going to be picked and. Personally. I'd be shocked if Tyler was not picked ads, the fifth player, but that's just me. In other news, the old school shootout happened last week with Johnny and earl getting together to raise money for Tommy. Kennedy. Johnny won that match was a race to thirty Johnny one at Thirty, two, twenty, eight most importantly. Almost five thousand dollars was raised for Tommy. Kennedy the videos from that event. There's three different ones are up on the TV YouTube Channel YouTube dot com slash as TV. You knew that was there right Now a real quick. Aside when it comes to that channel, we posted some videos. A week or two ago, and really got some complaints from people talking about the number of ads that were being shown in the middle of the video. and. The beginning I just looked at it and said, okay, people are just complaining to hear their voice. It happens finally after a number of the my win and looked and it was awful. I'm not sure how the default setting got set to include videos in the or ads in the middle of the video, but it was really packed. So the good news is I went through probably the last hundred or so uploads and removed any ads for the middle of videos. And if you don't go to the Youtube Channel, well, if you don't go to the Youtube channel shame on you. But for the people who do go to the Youtube Channel and and who enjoy that sort of thing I apologize for those those ads being where they were. It was completely out of control. In other news. Tours are starting to get back into business. Twenty one players in New Jersey for the Garden State Pool Tour Stop. That was one by Kevin Scowl. I might have butchered that name. More importantly seventy-one players in Maryland for the nine ball fall shootout. That was what we refer to as an independent events just because he doesn't tied to any tour, but it's tied to lawyered with on the hill productions and. Honestly the events that he runs his almost like a tour in itself. He's got that kind of support. It was nice to have online brackets for the event a link to the Stream Irwin. was there taking pictures I mean it was it was everything that we could ask for in helping to cover a tournament. In other tournaments, we talked about the big thousand dollar entry event in Ada Oklahoma don't have a whole lot of details on that Rick Stanley one, but I don't know a whole lot else. This week I don't see a lot coming up I see the J. P. shower northeast women's tour they're having a stop at so. Part of the part of the problem with the calendar was knowing which events that were on the were still happening in which ones weren't The JP nude event is definitely happening. In Online Pool News, which is virtual tournaments playing the ghost I understand you know. When you describe it that way it interests me about as much as trick shots but. Honestly you know the people who are doing. This are doing a bang-up job I mean they're really doing a great job and one of the big ones is one sports TV. They have their one Pool Women's Cup September twenty first through the twenty seventh novel last. Song that event Jasmina Sean was one of the players in it and the other three I wasn't really familiar with I'm sure they're going to announce more and I'll include link in the show notes to the page on facebook for. That, particular event. In other news hey, you know what? I did two shows in a row. So I'm allowed to get back on my soapbox and that's where I'm going. Saw last night that an event was scheduled January sixth through the tenth in Birmingham Alabama ten thousand dollars added five thousand added one pocket five, thousand added nine ball that it's fantastic great event for the players to enjoy going to. Unless, they were thinking about going to turning stone that week which has been on the schedule since the Stone Age. Or maybe they wanted to go to the world nine ball championship which Mash Room has already announced. They were having that week. I don't understand how it is that we can have these tournaments scheduled with no attention being paid to what might already be scheduled out there look at what Daniel Bush does on the West Coast Daniel Bush with Pov Pool. He puts together that West Coast swing. You have events lined up room after room and when you've got four or five high-dollar, let's say there were four or five, ten thousand dollars added events in. Four five different states and they were just scheduled. One right after the other just like Daniel does on the west coast. How did the chances change between getting the top player for one ten thousand dollar added events or getting the top players who are traveling from state to state in four or five different ten thousand dollar added events. That's where the players come to. You want the best players in the world work together under it. It's I. Just don't understand the concept, and this is something that gets touched on briefly in this week's interview with emily when she talks about what happens with super billiards expo and that scheduling snafu. Again. One Central Location to look for tournaments that are on the schedule. I've suggested easy billiards of course, suggested easy billiards. That's what I'm going to do doesn't have to be easy billiards. It can be any sight out there. We just need one that's agreed on by everybody. But this is a conversation that we've had many times in the past and I'm sure we're going to have many times in the future. So let's move on to this week's interview. I had a very long conversation with Emily Frazier from matchroom multi sport. We talked about a number of things. It's a long interview, but I think it's worth the time it's almost an hour i. think it's worth the time to spend to listen to everything emily has to say she has a vision for this game. and. If we can get halfway to that vision, I think we're going to be doing an outstanding job. So with that being said. Without any further ado I give you emily frazier. Very proud now to be joined by the managing director of Matcher. multi-sports Emily Frazier Emily how things on on your side of the world? On my side of the pond. Well, it's. Crazy gonNA live but. Thank you for having me. Great to speak to my just a I'm actually at MK Arena full the build of our Championship League Snooker Event So we've got that start in on south Sunday. Sioe yet oh systems guy really for us wit select. We're we're back into the mix of it and doing exactly what we love to do which is back to back events. For the for the World Snooker Championship there were fans allowed in the first day and then they weren't allowed in until the last day. Is that right? Yes unfortunately I was I was there on that day and it was. It was such a horrible for everyone involved really so much planning and organization at gone into. Allowing spectators into the venue. All of the United Rules and regulations have been approved by the government. And then all of a sudden. A spike in cases and a decision obviously be made by the government. To cancel any test pilot events for spectators attending live sporting events, and obviously that coded the wall. SNOOT. Championship. which was Distraught really united. We had one day fans and then all of a sudden. It went to behind closed doors and then manage to have the final The final two days are been spectators so it just goes to show the no matter what you do matter what you plan. Evil ways got to have something in you back in the back of the mind you know just saying. It's not quite a hundred percent until you. So of there and you just got to make sure that you've got every contingency in place really and just it's just still such on nine and onset and times right now all we have to do is try to stay upbeat and positive, and and just hoping aim in the right direction. What are the plans as far as spectators for this event that you're preparing for now? Championship leaks sneaker weeping running squats long time now it's always being behind closed doors never open spectators. So quite straightforward one four us what was different is that we we actually produce the event in June. We were the fast lives sport here in the UK since the the pandemic in the lockdown and it was so successful. You know we were peaking at six hundred, thousand view is. On. TV Four here in the UK and. you know in the millions across Europe and in China and it was just such a successful tournament. We tweets the format slightly The players were great to be back after being in lockdown for so long and and we kind of looked at it and said, okay, that was really successful. Let's maybe do another one whilst the SNOOKA season is kind of. It was a bit better but now we got twenty one days of live. SNOOKA. For this event to into the calendar which box atop for oversee the pie is on the tour here and I'm we've increased increase the event to a a ranking event is wealth the world new control. Every silver lining to these situations, which means that we've come through with a revamped event as such. You know talking about snooker her. At least in the states, which is the background that I have looking at the game. Snooker is seen as very professional, not just in the manner in which it's played but in the organization and you know you talk about seasons and and that sort of thing is, is that kind of the goal that you're looking at for American pool or do you not think that's possible? I think that we should take every step. Time, we shouldn't rush into things. Obviously a huge passion of mine is pull. So, I want to see it progress I want to develop and I want to see her evolve. The only way we can do that is to actually develop a tour for Paul, and especially in the United States. So that's always in the back of my mind and I probably won't stop until I've achieved it Like I said slowly. But surely, we already have five events Donna roster. and. Others. The key lighting. The calendar. Which a still weld cost events as such. So we we need to keep building we need to generate more tournaments, more events, but unfortunately. There isn't any money in Pool There's no big sponsorships coming in because there's no viewership there's no. Record. Breaking audience figures like that. We're seeing. In some of our other sports that we were promoting I mentioned the viewing figures for the championship make that we did in June unfortunately, with the way that police sometimes they're so merely streams and. Signing, various ways. And channels the some of the events all. Seen on and what we're trying to do is we're trying to I will professionalize the athletes. At, the moment you know pool players especially to the big worldwide sponsors, a portray does gamblers and perhaps it's a bit on me crooked side when it comes to. Gambling in matches for instance, and it took snooker real long time to straighten all of that out when it comes to betting and we're trying to professionalize the athletes in our poll events sets in the our five metropole events. You know it's just even how they dress how they act or how they promote themselves social media. That's what we're trying to do but there's only so much. We can do of the we all full prices at the end of the whether the best in the business but we will say at dive into six all the sports and you know there's new small team of us. But like I said, it is in real strong passionate mine and to develop and evolve this spoil and I I say it's a sport because it is a sport and we do have these world class athletes but they are just unfortunately not. Like these professional athletes in comparison to the SNOOKA and it can be so frustrating but all we need to keep doing is just to kate. Working, hard working relentlessly to remind the players and to be creative on our events. How do we make it more enjoyable to casual sports? Fan is a well and good at players promoting to some of that fans. But unless we grow the nine Boko audience, we will not grow the sport. So we need to make these events appeal to US casual sports fan we need to make sure that they stay tuned in. So we have to just always be keeping on a tacos we can't be complacent oversee. It's very uncertain and tough times at the Mayan and a lot are events got cancelled and rescheduled Trying to remain again, hopeful and positive, and utilizing this time that we actually do have as a benefit and trying to stay and remain. Creative in what we can do when we can finally get pulled back on the teething. Well. I think there's a lot of people here in the states that. Will be very happy to hear. What what your goals are but You know like you had said that it's it's not easy sometimes to get the American pool player. To embrace. The game like like the snooker players have and you mentioned that you know it was kind of a a little bit of a battle to get there with snooker. Have you have you been surprised by the amount of pushback that you've gotten as far as trying to rehabilitate the image of nine ball players or did you expect that? I think we get too much of a pushback from the players as such. I think it's going to sound terrible but. I don't think people who and players and fans actually realize how important this image is. All everyone keeps saying is. I want the prize money get more people in there but at the end of the day. We can't sell these events big time sponsors big time brands on professionalize these plays and a irony think that a few. Players actually understand this. Women be sparking and inspiring the younger generation. were meant to be. Professionalizing the image of the players and we're trying to do everything we can from. We'd literally Roy a how to guide for all of the players the cipher signed up. As on the Mosconi Cup and they have a how to guide of how to set up a twitter account and we've actually set them up for them and then told them what they need to do and how to follow it through. So we're trying, but it's also the ironist comes onto the players and a K. Yeah. There is a bit of a pushback because no out of. Laziness or anything like that I. Just think it's just a lack of understanding how important these things all you. It's it's all well and good US trying to sell to a a big. Main mainstream brand of events. But when these, what happens is these Brands go onto social media. It's all about social media and digital media. These days things go viral. You know look how big time Youtube is get now and I feel like core has really really taken. It's just in its sort of old school days where we haven't taken any of this on board, we're trying to do this and we're trying to generate more social media more content more talk and throughout our events by having unite the hashtags but I don't think the pie is understand the importance. Of everyone talking about events and People Jumping on the bandwagon and tuning in because they've heard through. The, grapevine, about this Mosconi Cup event where you know one of the pilots jumped on top the table or something like that because social clip is gone viral. These these clips are so important and the players profiles are so important, and that's why we're trying to professionalize their image and trying to teach and guide them on what they should be posting. How they should be inspiring the younger generation for them to turn around and go I. WanNa be a poll Kyle I think that you get. That many kids out that co I WANNA be a PULCI. You're looking at more people going to the pool halls and having fun and you know having a few drinks and things like that. We WanNA spark this in the younger generation of them saying. I. Cannot see on a career here but we don't have that in right now and that we can't just keep adding Zeros to our price funds for each event because the thing is generating any income in order to do that, we can't at prize money unless we pull in big big brands. Unfortunately enough because we're big main promoter, we have the books in the dots we have this new car. We quite a well established brand hair. We can pull in big sponsors but we need we need a great product at the end of day which we have, but we also need these social media perjury, false images of these players. and. You talk about. Shane. Van. Boning. WHO's one of the greatest players in in America right now? He doesn't have a twitter account. And I've said this before and on on social media and I think I think I'll go a little bit of high for it but. which trying to sell these athletes and we're trying to sell these events but. There's no following of them or they have maybe as view facebook friends than, but they have no official instagram accounts. And like it or not. The day that the current year and this current day that we're in these events revolve around social media and this is what we really need to be working on Training videos and it takes a lot of work but I believe it really does. But we've got time at the moment where there's not many tournaments was no tournaments happening. There's a lot of practicing going on. You've got some downtime to create your accounts and guy, right? Okay. So what can I do and and then all of a sudden when the tour starts back again and? Players Plaza traveling. Then over Sunday can start logging their journey and they can start inspiring the younger generation to follow in their footsteps. And we're only going to be able to do that. If we all just really relentlessly what called together and build this brand their Ernie so many. facebook friends the the players have, and it's the same group of people. What we need to do is we need to expand. We need to evolve even things like the US Open. It's a fantastic event. We've already done one year so far. I I was still side that we smashed out of the park. There's so many things that went wrong with it, and there are so many things we need to improve on but the. The cake conversations that we're having now is the promoter is to say, okay well, how do we evolve and how to expand this event? Okay. Well, we stage the event next to an amateur van alongside one of our big partner like diamond. So why have we not thought of that before? Well, it takes us one event to. Get a heads. And realize what we need to do. But the conversations that we're having because we want to see the events evolve and we want some people I bet if you did a poll. That was at one of the biggest amateur events impo as safe. Vegas. Is a huge armature. I bet if we send a few people around with a saying, do Mosconi Cup is. I. It sounds horrible. I hate to say it I think more people wouldn't know what it is than they do. Because I don't think got's the amateur players and the players you go and have fun actually know about these professional events and I don't think they realized how exciting and how big they all and we can use things like the the US Open. As a snacking star because we're pulling in said ARPAN event, anyone can play it and it's fantastic. Get some of these pays that go on when a drawer against Shane van biting and it's it's fantastic that we've picked up an event like the US Open. So. We just need to keep being creative and we obviously we have so many goes and so many islands, but we also need every want. To, believe and trust in US but with us as well, and that includes the players. I completely understand the the vision of. Every player having a positive social media influence out there. How do you? How do you deal with the players who? Kind of March to the beat of their own drum. Sullivan's of the world the. We I could mention names of American players, but really we don't need to. How do you? How do you make those players a part of this? Because that that the celebrities themselves running I, Sullivan creates it himself he. He will runnings of us the quite controversial and he may say things that people like or dislike but he's he's getting involved in it and he's getting involved in the media. He still has twitter accounts. He still has it instagram accounts and he's invoked and he's got himself in the in the public domain. So even though he might be saying some controversial things, I just love the if anyone's talking about our event whether it's good or bad I love it because at the end of the day, it's one new person is tuned in on it's one more viewer that adds onto our. Viewing figures at the end of the event. Side. Sometimes we make we may make some controversial decisions. I think I went off on a twits Iran not too long ago and I didn't realize how many. How many comments a? Spot but the end of the day we won Monday everyone was talking about Mosconi Cup everyone was. And so it's just feel need to be in. Amongst the meeting we all need to. Be Talking, about things we need to have to social account so. It's not about getting the is in line and getting them in check. It's about everyone undestanding how important social media is not saying that you have to be. Just there in posting. You, at the table playing all the time, but it's it's posting your career. It's posting your journey. It's allowing people to follow your princess and but Oh side professionalize it slightly you know. Our events, we allow players to come on board and bring in their own personal sponsors. Nine Times. Out of ten, not all of the players feel all of those sponsorship spots which shows me that there are no. There's not enough brands out that and also the pay is aren't getting the sponsors. So, it is all these opportunities where they can turn around and say, I've made the Moscardini Cup I can get you a patch on Misha. And wit and it's going to be live on designing the US live on Sky Sports Nicholasville Mount. Viewing figures. I'm doing all of this social media. My following is twenty thousand on twitter or ten thousand on Instagram and I can get you this exposure and I can make X. amount of money from his sponsorship. But that then the conversations that are the having at the moment with the payers but in all of our other sports. Is exactly what is happening and pose not the only one we have some of our other sports like fishing. Maybe. So netball basketball which caught slightly behind as well So it's just about trying to guide the players in the ethnics on what they should be doing. It's not a case of trying to keep them in check and. Just think there's such a terrible. Of you on some players I think sometimes it's more about facebook lives being so drunk and things like that. That's not what the younger generation wants to be inspired to become. So it is more of a case of. Just helping everyone to stand what we're off. and. Everyone wants to know the personalities of these players. That's that's the thing we have. The beauty of of coal we have such a mixture and a variety of players look at last year's Mosconi Cup team. You've got five. Super individual players from the U. S they bring something entirely different team. And it's great that you have those five different personalities everyone wants to know about them everyone wants to know what they're thinking. And that's that's what we're doing in our post-match interviews and. Media, views all of these zoom Kohl's the happening moment every quiet gets announced. The MOSCONI Cup is a one on one interview to hit the play his thoughts. That's what everyone to be hearing. They want to know what the players thinking, and so all of these is two things that we're doing at the moment when tournaments happening, we're trying to drive content. Trying get more interviews out there. It's just all it's doing is building the brand and building the place images. In in the couple of years that you've been in the position. There's a lot that has happened with matchroom and American Pool. You guys obtained the US Open obtained the World Nine Ball Championship. A. Match Room has always been there, and Mosconi Cup has always been the biggest draw that Matra had at least. That was the impression here in the states you know there was always conversation about Mosconi Cup and who's going to make the team but. I can hear enthusiasm in your voice that. Maybe hadn't been there for a little while. And I don't mean this in the wrong way. It just you know there's there's a whole new. Enthusiasm coming from what you guys are doing is that Is that your doing were you the catalyst for four? Pushing to obtain these events or was this the plan all along. I think. Of Say I've been monitoring for ten years. Now, I've been here for a while I was in the TV Department for. A five of those years so and I would work on a on the other spoke. Of Ways. saw what special events was, what record at the time what we record at the time. With doing and I and I loved seeing some of these events and I I worked on the World Cup of poll. When. I was in TV department odd record player interviews and things like that. So obviously in a very different job row but my background is in TV production site that's where I was kind of born and raised as such. where we all right now, we have the strongest team that we've ever had matching mold spoil poll. which is developed over the years obviously who we have here is every single person. Is Passionate. Pence, we do every single person his passionate about that job. Whether, that drives through me I don't know but it's also drives through every individual that we have in this team and we have such a solid strong team of again probably similar to what I just said about the team, USA. Different individuals that all bring something totally different which event and I don't think it's a secrets to how passionate I am Obviously it's it's quite parent in the pool and Industry and and it comes through in our poll events I think. The last few years. I've I've obviously looked opole I have a very strong passion for it, and it's something that again I want to drive I want to evolve. And, and I think I. Think be the Queen of poll to be completely on his. Or jokes aside, we have a very strong. Team head is committed to evolving pool. But Arne, because we see the potential, we see the potential that this sport has and so we're not gonNA stop working hard and because we want to be the ones that want to. Take you on. We want to be the ones to change it yet. The MOSCONI Cup is always been in. The forefront of. Being. The best. On the CO calendar. Always, had this fun exciting atmosphere. It's obviously evolved even more. So over the last couple of years I think one of my main aims, the Mosconi Cup is that we never ever do the same seating during twice. So they matter whether we're in London or knee K, we always have to increase seating and that's the only way we need to. We have to grow the Mosconi. Cup. So I. Think my Fest Event Was Trump Tana in vegas or black blackpool that was my first ever Mosconi An each year or I said to myself, right go back another couple of hundred on Eagle keep adding on we got keep building atmosphere and obviously the last few years we've acquired the US Open and that was part of the plan to evolve the metric coal for failure because at the end of the day. We we are the ones after resources. An drive to Roy? That's for? We can't do that. We've just them sky. Welcome monsters on the World Cup. All we can't do it, but just those three events we need more. So that's why is is set on open required that. While, championship. Is is the biggest event. In the spoke and it's which is the world championship and with with the drivers for the sport. So we it should be an awkward failure. So the aim is to walk on the events we have because we can't neglect them. We must stay created we must build and develop the events we have, but we also need to build up finally we need more events on the calendar want need to told, and again it's one step at a time which. We need to find that healthy balance of being able to stay on track with what we got, but also looking at new opportunities, new police and. With the current situation as the global pandemic is opened up a few Sensua- days for Newport event that we could be looking at the next year and. there's always just think without free. Proud. There's always silver lining. Again. I. Think. A lot of there's a lot of passion with octane. I I am really worked. Just, Nathan Breath Walks I. And Property surrounded by the same people say. It was kind of lost five years of beans of like an uphill battle as such. But I think. We strong, we we know what direction we want to go in and we. Set ourselves. Silly goose or empty promises we're. Going to deliver. What we say to deliver on. Part. Of the plan. Back. In January you launched the the world rankings list. How does that fit into this and how do you see? How do the the bigger events in the states become a part of that? Well one thing that always drive milita crazy was the selection process for some of our events. Obviously like I said when I first got involved it was. It took me a few years to just see what was happening and learn what was going on and learn about the industry and because. I had no involvement in poor. Why did I didn't even I didn't even particularly I can not going to lie to you. I think when I first joined matter. I? Didn't really have any. Love for any sports to be to be honest with you So that's kind of developed over the years and. So it took a while to to learn what was happening and. He conned a sore, the selections were happening on. A bit of favoritism of friends here and there and It's Just think if we're trying to professionalize the sport, which is my number one go. Then, we need to put that aside and we need to actually come up with a with a proper rankings is to. These players should be. They should be going traveling around the tool. And they should be earning that places in the biggest events on the calendar because they all traveling around the mayor committed. They should. They should have that on. Merit. So that was the thinking the thought process behind debt. Patient just get picked because you know that friends with someone oil. They won one torn one big tournament such. There's pairs. Grind. Tournament and they travel back to back they might see their friends on their families but. They bind everything and they just grinding out every day and if they. Do, well, in a few tournaments, they should they should be rewarded for that and so. Again. We already have five events under our belt and. The. The thought price was well walpole monsters. It was a sixty-nine invitational then for years it was just. It was pretty much just this invitational of Thai is but now it it should be a twenty four best players in the world. And it's kind of having selection process. You know the Mosconi Cup MVP gets in and we should be trying to link all of our events together into one brand is matching pool. That's what we should be doing to evolve the school. Working. With other proprietors, you know we've got great my side who obviously very committed to You know I trying to do what we're doing and that's that's build the school. So, there are other events on the calendar that we incorporate into our rankings list. and. We should be rewarding the right points for the right prize money that's involved. And we should be rewarding those players who committed who grinding. So the thought behind the world rankings was just you know it's an overall big picture for the matching Paul Brand. It's the bigger picture to evolve sport. And let's try and get some more events onto our umbrella and let's make sure. The. Promote is also doing Roy I. Just mentioned CSI. Fantastic they. They put on Welk loss events organized. Really really well, and they're great team but then you do have other promoters who A- soft in some of the players and you know they might. They might. Make a few cuts here and there in order to make the minimum prize money and. A notice that well. Cyanide I noticed nick till in all team very, very good when it comes to formats and ranking points and. The. Rest of the pool calendar. Knicks locked my right hand when it comes to things like that, and he basically looked the the ranking points from he took it on the last couple of years thirteen-year-old. And we noticed that some events would just on the calendar for the sake of air. But what we should be doing is we should be helping and guiding these promoters as to how the events should be promoted how they should be stage but also that should be minimum price fund. We shouldn't be making these players traveled to and from and grinding offense for. Such low prize money and so. What we're facing doing by having more ranking events or more established ranking events on almost Carney Cup calendar we all encouraging the players to play in these other events. So then another stepping stone. Why do we do ranking points for team? Europe but not team USA and it's made a question I've been asking bashing on the door for so long and the answer was always that it just never really worked team USA. Screw that. Let's make sure that it works. Let's not do something just because it doesn't work. Let's blood D-, do it, and if it means, it's a little bit harder and it's a bit more work then so be it. We Love Challenge. So. I think I want to say it was eighteen months ago we sat down. Okay. Let's do this. Get some ranking events for. Team USA oversea. We tried to do it for this year and the Oregon fits up. For to obviously the current situation, but the thought process was there. But what we want to try and build on this we want swing courage more promoters in the united. States, because at the moment is not enough professional events on the calendar in the states. So what we need to do is we need to encourage the USA play is to be traveling to these different events and to be grinding and earn their spot onto the Mosconi Cup team but also they might earn their spot into the Walpole Mazdas the top to Americans on the rankings the matching poll could I ness ball onto the World Cup of Pool? All of a sudden something, the an event where it was five wildcard picks from a captain. The old groper into place one week before the event in December. It's all of a sudden a year talking point and now suddenly growing. Other events on the con- to the matching poll but other promoters, the more we the more binds they generate the most sponsorship. They get because big name players there. Then the better they they get we one other promoters to be successful because if successful. So awake we get more events, I would love just more polar. That's all I want site. That was that was the thought process behind his thoughts it with the rankings fourteen year continuous side, and then the discussion what we do in multi office not so I say was so strong at the moment of the nor we're going to do is become stronger. We've just employed to new people as well with such a good solid team right now but we'll sit there and we'll have a discussion about it, and then all of a sudden one talking point for team USA ranking point. Is it was meant to last ten minutes is all of sudden taken a full day and we've just established the matching pool world rankings. So that's kind of how things develop because you know we sit down with passionate. And we want to revolt the sport, we want to generate younger players to the Moscardini. At more competitive event I think during my time that was the worst event of ever done. And Sarah Bradley on might but. It was the twenty seventeen most Garni Copy Las Vegas. Mandalay Bay. And I think. It was often match to on day one. The TAME was Shane. SKYLA billy. Dennis Hatch and someone else. It was An. Oscar Dominquez. And on Team USA. And match to finish on this, the producer for the showers walked into the office and just looked me. And shook his head and I sat then I'll just quote my head in my hands in my office haven't slept having eastern probably drunken sheds coffee. And he looks at me like this is just what is going on and I couldn't even bring myself into the rain off to watch because it was. Like you said earlier you can hear the passionate my voice it was genuinely heartbreaking thing watching. that US citing just admit to fate throughout that entire event. And felt that no one ready those no love for everyone was turning up for their parents fake. And it wasn't the best event on the calendar. And we saw sat there and thought, well, what are we going to do next year where we need to do something because? Again. How are we gonNA get audience you amphicars if the if the competition is in competitive. How's that going to happen? So although it's All Fun and games that one one team gets spanked oxygen. You know it's an eleven victory that is not good viewership we need it to be competitive we need the. The the matches to go all the way we need it to to be the best players in the world, but the most guy cop hasn't been that for a little while because it's been selections and things like you know Shane stats. So it all. The he he's never really being successful in the Mosconi Cup prize the last two years. The go that we've been doing. Jeremy joins being fantastic for it. It's the. The And and the friendship and the team dynamic, and that hasn't been worked on for a real long time and it's something that we finally gone home of. An now, the event can finally be competitive. And again, that was the whole thought process for the rankings for Team USA unseen Europe it's been so many small events on the teen Europe rankings the at she felt sorry for some of the the European players they had to go and grind suction prize money. One thing that we've already looking and focusing on during this time where we don't actually have have spoil on. is to risk tablets these events and make sure that this calendar Calende. Is Good enough for the players because again I want to the is it they should be posting on social media and moaning to them. They should be doing this and that but the end of the day. We should also be setting the stage for them. This is career. And we should be working our absolute bollocks off. To to get them as. Successful as they possibly can be I feel sorry for any players who a kind of getting to the end of the coal career right now. Because the ones who had just coming through and that just sort of break in the barrier you know you finishes scholar would would. There the prime opportunity because they're coming into the industry when I'm here and I'm GonNa Absolutely. Just. Sky With it because sky's the limit. And and we're GONNA push in. Wegener evolve the sport and this is the prime time for. I I have to comment. It's been. It's been the situation in the states for so long that. Promoters come in and go and the whole idea is. I need to grab the biggest piece of the pie that I can. Get and I haven't heard. I've probably heard more enthusiasm for growing the sport in the last forty minutes than I have in the last four years. I'll take that as a compliment. was definitely meant that way. Who is is the Oh we obviously preached that where the best promotions all of that that's That's just the way that we are an appropriate way that I am but also I love working with other pimple and other organizations because at the end of the day I'm I like to think quite small I know that we can't just do this on. All right so. Why we connected with? To try and work on this junior USO PM on either a few people as negative comments as to how we picked the juniors but again. Be Launched. Something that. You know I was positive for for the industry for Juniors. I mean what other event you get way you can get too much places into the next year's US Open for a thousand dollar entry. Fit for junior payers fantastic opportunity for them. So we're more than happy to open the door and speak to others in industry and what together with them. We also needs to be the top of our game. We need to ensure that we're delivering the best package we need to ensure where. Where always driving and we're working hard so we like to. Pick and choose who we work with, but we're not all. US You know I just doing this on our art. I would love to hear you know I think it's Alison fishes being messaging me quite a lot recently. An- she messaged me she said, you know we need to work on women in Pole and Being very very. Are Open about my thoughts on women in Spoil I have quite an ivory view of it. I like to think if you if you think you're the best, then you're the best amongst the the boys and the girls. If I want to prove I'm the best I WANNA be all of the guys and I want to be older for hours but that's obviously how. Iconic perceive things. Opening. The US. Open and having both female and male are opening the world. Pool Championship and having both female male I will always ensure the females have an opportunity to actually participate in the events that has none of this. I entry spaces we're taken up I will side entry spaces for women's participate so. It's a little bit difficult because there's no viewing figures the. All any Jenner. Not. Generating. Any feedback. That women are events you know successful as such so we should be opening it to barth. But for instance, Allison Fisher she messages and says, you know, what can we do? What should we be doing. An a sets a look just when you free, you tell me the time. And I will sit down with you for however long it takes less brainstorm smile this. What can we do? I'm more than happy to sit down with anyone brainstorm live talk how do we evolve? So it's not about just. US Right let's work together with other companies. We worked very closely with Predator and with. You obviously a staging other events as well, but let's work with them. Let's all work together and I said it. On our lost off the rail for Mattress Paul. As, there was a time where all of the major events on the pool calendar route customers with one another and I'll hold my hands up lost years, US Open is a little bit difficult because I'll calendar. We caught clash with officiant event on Netflix event because we're only one thing. So we we conscious sit there and guy right pool calendar. Let's go here. We have to think about td schedule our own mattress scheduled. Then we have to think about the snoop cook because we shouldn't clash with a big what That would be city of us. Then we will conquer the DOTS is the same audiences us so we've got all of that to think of them we okay Paul Calende. Site that times when we were clashing with our own big sporting events and I took on the nausea. We softened big time by cashing super billiards expert that wasn't on purpose. That was just you know. The locker draw and also we weren't in communication. We just none of us were in communication but now I've started off his threat on email all of the main promoters. Oh have schedules and calendars and we'll. Share together as I secret about it. We're all trying to work together. We understand at this time of the year and the current situation things. Aw, unavoidable thing is communicating. We're talking because the end go is again more calendar multiple events on the calendar. Don't clash with other major sports, other events because that's not going to help the place. We want them to be going back to back traveling from event to event if it were up to me about the suitcase and have. Matrimonial sport event every week of the calendar year. And that doesn't bother me all. I'm still young I like to think and that would be fantastic but so. That's what we're trying to do. We're all trying we should be working to get. and. With one another I like I mentioned about like an amateur event alongside with diamond. That was a great idea that's coming from Chad and that's something that I would really like to push forward. If we can oversee, try and do that with for the US Open if we can't do it next year because of the current climate then is in place we're not going anywhere. Unless oversaw. and. I've win the lottery and. That to an island on my mind and decides Packet Orleans and maybe now Jason. We, yeah. We're not going anywhere. We've taken and we've acquired these new events on because we have a passion. We love this. Enough to rush you know let's make each decision. Smartly wisely and. Again we had to cancel some events this year. But that was because we would have just rushed. we wouldn't have had the most competitive matches. We wouldn't have had the best payers and we would have wasted an event and I. I can't do that to the sport a wasting event. If we deliver something, we have to deliver it twelve ten every time. And that's that's the direction we want to go in and that's what we're trying to do and so anyone that's listening that I haven't communicated with before any promoters organizes sponsors. That's all worked together. The big topic right now is Mosconi Cup and. You had mentioned earlier that you've always got to have a plan B. Plan. C.. How How certain are you? that. Mosconi Cup is going to be able to go off the way that you would like it to. good question. I thing. No matter. What happens. The event like I said, we will always deliver at twelve hours of ten. If we can't have a crowd than, we will still deliver it twelve outs ten because we will be creative and we will think of ways the crowd can engage. And the event will have its atmosphere despite not being out to have a crowd bought. The main focus even though it has a lot of hard work, you know we witnessed it for the World Snooker Championship you can put in relentless hours and then all of a Sudden Diwan you can be nice spectators I would I'm more than happy to put in the right now to just have one hour spectators for the Messiah Cop. So the way that we see it is that we're working hard at new seating plans we're working hard with the government and we're also talking with the government constantly. Talking about new regulations, new boundaries we can push. Testing. And just what regulations are in place in order for us to get spectators in. A little bit hard with the Mosconi, Cup audience and people need to understand. Because the atmosphere is a lot more friendlier a lot more. how do I say drunker? It's a little bit harder to maintain social distancing and things like that. So. It may be slightly easier to have an audience in for a snooker event. Is for DOT. So for a pole event so that will factors that we really need to bear in mind and but we're not. Stepping off the off the gas. I want spectators in there and I'm going to do everything I possibly can unless I'm genuinely told by the government that we can't wait can. We are aiming for. Spectators. Appreciate that lot equal travel accommodation, and. And we've kind of been oversee very quiet about the the situation but it's genuinely because we have a yes or no answer right now. And what we are trying to do is trying to have seats in Paris proved government and. Until Achi what with that because we have to maintain social distancing but also, December, it is still quite waterway. Could have prevented things could've got was things critical are. So. Yeah. We have a plan through a all the way through to Z.. And whatever happens we're going to give it a rule and the outcome will be how we wanted it to be because win going to give up. So it's kind of note, the onset of everyone wants everyone just wants know whether we can have fans will not but tell you the real hard hitting truth I don't know right now and that is purely because this cart situation, we've got to two events coming up. Where we hope APPS spectators our champion of champions new proven in November and I will Mosconi Cup in. December. So. What we need to do is put measures in place in order to make sure that if the situation worsens. and. We have to go behind closed doors and for instance, Out Championship League event in June was completely behind closed stores. It was the first live spoke UK. Well let's make sure that there's a plan. You know. T in place so we can do that. So we are thinking of everything. We want the events go ahead. We're not GONNA quiet because we're just trying to keep everyone. Just, takes a long and we don't want to share any news. We all just genuinely trying to it. I, mean I could make the announcement aren't site brought Muscatine cops behind closed doors. They everyone is your answer and that would be easy out. Because there's still hope crossed that spectators. So let's plan for that avenue. Let's see if we can do it and let's try and deliver if not. Let. Me Go to plan. S. That that's that's the overall view on it. The whole aim for the beginning of lockdowns to be to try be as transparent as possible told players told fans. But. Right now is just still so uncertain for us and things can change the matter of hours and our first hand experienced it witnessed it so we just need to be. We just shouldn't make any brush visions. Let's take each step a ton. And just try to deliver the event. And it's interesting that you say that you think. You know the the question that everyone wants answered is whether there will be fans at Mosconi Cup I like hearing that really the question is will there be a Mosconi Cup and and it sounds like there can be without four days of screaming fans. Yeah I do you know what I've? I've watched darts behind closed doors. They've got the live crowd going in through the Ram. Through the TV I've seen it happen and engine I walk whip whip bloody good at what we And if we can't have finds in that, we'll be able to deliver a very good product and site. Unless you know, we physically can't get the players into the country, which is something that we've we worked. We have an international exemption here for sports elite sports, persons that that we going through the process of all the. Way quite comfortable in that again because we're in. Detailed and ongoing discussions with the government and with all the events that we've got going on. So. If we have funds. Then this. Way around it again, our hope. Type design that that's what we one. Honestly. Going into this conversation I didn't think I was going to be as excited for what the game could look like a year or two down the road as I am now this was not. This was not the conversation I expected to have. Well. You've never met me Mike that's why. We'll I'm looking forward to that now. Yeah me too. I. Think. We've got a lot of plans in motion and we we do have setbacks this year I'm not I'm not gonNA hide that it's no secret. But again, it's it's not it's not scared as often and. It's GonNa. Take a real long time before things get back into. Its back to normality and I don't think things ever will be I think we've all experienced something that you know has changed on also generation and the way the events live sporting events move forward is going to change but I said it's you earlier. I like these situations where you cover silver cloud a silver lining. Sorry. Because there's new ways of production that we've learned. There's ways that we can not spend as much money on production and put it in other areas that needed right now. And we only allowed not because of this situation and because of going into lockdown and so that's what I'm positive about I'm positive that we're GONNA come out of this with new ideas in its if events. And again, I, feel like my true employee's to we've kind of gone to. Now to where I was hoping it was going to be in twenty twenty, twenty, twenty one. That's okay. I had an cry about it few months back conical ivory. He's so upset about it and go. Way wants to be up and but that's okay. Take on the chin, and all you can do is just look and and see how we can develop and work for the future. So I'm excited and I'm glad you ought to. Him. Emily I appreciate the time that you spent with me today. I appreciate the the energy and the enthusiasm that you bring to everything that you do and I'm looking forward to seeing how Mosconi Cup comes together and how things come together next year. Thank you know pressure now? All right. I'll let you get back to planning and we'll talk to you soon. Thanks. Mike. It's been a pleasure. Alright. Thanks, Emily. Emily. Again, I found that all very interesting and like I mentioned in that interview. You take the the enthusiasm that emily has and the enthusiasm that people like nate mendham hands. And I think the game has eight. I'M NOT GONNA say a bright future. I'm going to say a brighter future than it does without those people in it. And speaking of Nate Nice saying they're nate does the Kyodo podcast and believe it or not? Nate is my interview in the can for next week so Sit Down for this three shows in a row I can't believe it myself. But you know like I said the new site motivation who knows what can happen. So checking next Wednesday and we will have that interview with nate I appreciate everybody listening this week and Dave we are always thinking about you.

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Jerry Forsyth Remembers Tokyo and Just How Good Was Efren

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Jerry Forsyth Remembers Tokyo and Just How Good Was Efren

"Welcome back to american billiard radio. Today is friday november twenty seventh and on this week's show. I talked to gerry forsythe. Jerry's been around the game of pool as a as a reporter for longer than as e billiards has been around man. There's days feels like billiards has been around forever. But i took an opportunity to talk to jerry about the tokyo open. Abc events that took place twenty years ago and from there as things typically tend to do when i talked to jerry things kind of went off on a different tangent and we got to talking about efren reyes and and just how strong effort was when he was at the peak of his game. But before we get to that we do have news this week. The biggest tournament result news. Certainly not the biggest but the biggest tournament result news was jeff to luna winning the nine ball and ten ball divisions at the first annual mutual classic had racks in sanford florida. Now ambi estevez from new york when out to florida to run this event and you know i'll be honest prior to the tournament. I looked at Fifty some player division a hundred and fifty player division also running a pay per view stream. One man. i don't care how many people you got on your team. I thought you know. I've i've done. I've ran tournaments. We've all ran tournaments before. And i've handled a stream. I thought he was. He was definitely taking on more than he could. And in the beginning the first night of the tournament looking at all the complaints online. Yeah it it seems that way but to ami's credits. There weren't completes complaints. Went away for the most part. As far as the pay per view goes on friday and everything seemed to run smoothly after that he committed to skip the a billiards writer. Who you've probably allred hundreds of articles from that there were going to be brackets online and there were going to be scores on them. Lord knows brackets online and scores. You get you. Don't think you're asking too much but there's an awful lot of tournaments out there that don't do that. So he he lived up to his commitments with skip. He was great working with skip From everything i understand. He ran to great tournaments so I was really you know for my feelings. That ambi was taking on too much. I was wrong and he. He did an exemplary job. With jeff to luna winning both divisions he won a close to ten thousand. I understand three thousand of those winnings are going back to the philippines for the typhoon. Relief effort dennis or koyo also raffled off his personal q. Case raised almost two thousand dollars doing that. I had a chance to talk to mike wang over at omega and he said that as soon as that tournament in florida was over that dennis was going back to texas and was going to work with mike to get a new case made and that they were going to work on some other relief efforts so i would expect to hear more on that one fairly soon. Liz taylor won the northeast women's tour. Season finale nice caroline pao to take a break and let the other ladies have a chance to win lizards on a bit of hot streak down. That's too too big wins for her. In two weeks. Tony chauhan three days with scott frost plane a little one pocket. That's a match that a lot of people had been waiting for and it was a shame that it didn't happen. You know what. It's my podcast. So i can say That it didn't happen when both of them were in their one pocket prime. No i'm not jumping up to gamble with either one of them. So let's not go down that road but you know let's face it. One of them is playing under a bit more heat out there while the other has backed off a little bit you know life comes in and becomes a priority but but either way you know no matter when they played it. Scott came out on fire day. One took a ten to four lead. There were playing race two thirty over three days so ten four scott after one day. Tony played like tony was expected to play on day two and caught up and then took the lead at twenty two seventeen. It all came down to the day. Three scott made a comeback. They were tied at twenty six. Tony one three went to the hill. Twenty nine twenty six ended up winning it thirty to twenty seven so tony chauhan won that challenge match. Paul drechsler was inducted into the international. Cue makers hall of fame for twenty twenty. I'm going to work on trying to get some more information about about paul and honestly as far as all of the media projects that i'm involved with them being this show the billiard buzz magazine of course easy billiards. There are a number of things that i would like to do to better support the billiards community. And better cover everything. That's going on and billiards and q. Making is one of them. I've talked to mike capone a couple of times. I've talked to. Mike capone a handful of times and and it always comes back down to me. It comes down to having the time to to actually do it. And i i keep saying. I'm going to but i going off on a tangent again. Congratulations to paul drechsler. And and hopefully we'll have an opportunity to talk to him on the show the other tournament results. Were you remember the texas open. Nine ball championship. That happened two or three weeks ago. Well they were able to do the one pocket they were able to do the nine ball. They were not able to do the ladies division. So so skinny. Bob's was able to open back up. After the little coves scare. They scheduled the women's event last weekend. That was won by the same player. Who won it last year and the year before. Empress ming ing. Not a player that anyone who has followed the game for very long would be surprised at her. Getting the win has been playing professionally for longer than i've been covering the game and there aren't a whole lot of players out there who've been playing professionally longer than i've been covering the game. I took a chance to to speak to ming. And i asked her how exactly she is able to keep playing at the level that she's playing at for as long as she has well. I think over time you know like i said like as we get older you know we have different priority. So i think toll is like wine. That's how i always describe it. Because i think as you get older you get a little bit wiser and you're you don't necessarily have to be at the table all the time to really excelled that i think The mental side of the game. More than anything just like any sport and Quite frankly i don't really play much poor. Pardon none at all Due to a couple of circumstances now. Number one i have rheumatoid arthritis of all my joints and my fingers and you know on my body. You know that. I'm even on medication these days and it's swells up so badly that if i play so much a just I can't even bend my finger the next day. So what i do. I really keep that to minimal even with the medication however Doing the time of hold that I did take in Students for the first time in my life. And i'm extremely proud of and and i think with him. They helped me a lot. Because i don't necessarily have to like you're not sure. Shot here and there for him but but to really explain you know the knowledge of the game to him so it kinda helped me to remember certain things that i forgot to myself. You know as far as the fundamental by ever and you know from time to time you know so it's up to teach only one if you can execute the shot right mike So i think that helps me also a little bit Doing helped me to prepare. You know for the texas open a little bit. I would say definitely. I have contributed to it and then of course it was only right. I had to ask ming you know. How long has she actually been playing. The game started playing through when i was sixteen to Think about twenty one. Then i stopped playing for a few years. Then i started again when i was like twenty five because i knew it took you know money to go to tournaments or what i did was When i was younger. I saved them. Let me for three years in a row. And i was able to put myself into you. Know the traveling in the time to play. And then when i start playing I won the rookie of the year. Nineteen ninety seven my first year on the wpa and And then i stopped playing around two thousand two When i got an accident dislocated my shoulder. And i have to have surgery and then that was another you know. Five year off with a four year like continuously Strength in my shoulder again. You know to have you know you know without like slipping out but it looks off from time to time but but you know it is what it is so. That's why i knew the after that you know you know. Of course you know picked up bad habits like my fans my my stroke. I just don't feel connected. You know would from time to time and the only thing they have really saved me just like my fundamental and logically considering how long she's been playing i. I asked ming how long she still sees herself playing and playing at the level in which she's playing well i think in You know like. I say i mean i don't know how long last but i think there are four is I don't think you should put a time limit on it at all. I mean whatever your capability and how you carry yourself you know where You know physically. So i think he has a you know as time goes by what you know. Our our body you know muscles is eight for times size. So you know i. I don't know how much time i wanna say. I wanna give myself. But i do know like i want. There's many more things that i wanna do you know and it's not who is definitely not on that list. You know 'cause poor for me now. It's become a enjoyment as a hobby. It's not a job for me. You know. I don't have to check in and check out. You know as a hobby. I just want to enjoy and what i want to in the near future as Be able to travel. I wanna travel in different parts of the world that i haven't been to. I wanna see different things and explore. And i want to do that when i'm feel can in that time frame. I don't wanna do all that. When i'm in my sixty so every opportunity that i feel like i'm gonna be able to get to do that. I would do that. That would be definitely my top priority so that brings us up to speed on tournament results. Now the big news. Justin bergman is out of the mosconi cup. Roughly a week before heading over to reiko arena. It was announced that justin had tested positive for covid. nineteen corey. dole takes his place. There was some talk about lie. Tyler didn't take his place. And i certainly don't know the reasoning behind that. I suspect there's more to it than just somebody didn't wanna play or invited or anything like that. But who knows when we'll know that but either way it's corey and not justin. I don't know what that changes for team. Usa a real steep mountain to climb this year. But i thought they had a steep mountain to climb last year. And i was completely wrong. So we'll see what happens Corey definitely brings experience to the game or to the team and he's been under fire quite a bit. The last couple of months. He's been out playing. He was playing at the texas open. He did not play in florida because he was getting ready to go overseas for the event. But i know he's been in vegas playing quite a bit so there's no question that he's he's ready to play at that level. You know something. I wanted to talk about when it comes to mosconi cup. I see they're doing this thing now. This last couple of days They're kind of trying to take the ufc approach and and trash talking each other. You know my first thought was i. Don't care for trash talk. You know i've done it. I've i've been a part of it on easy. Billiards in the past. The thing with me is. I was told when i was very young. There's a fine line between good humor and bad taste now. Don't get me wrong. None of the guys who are doing the trash talking so far have crossed over that line. I mean it's all. I've got more titles than you play better than you go back to fishing. That sort of thing and none of that is is personal. Hand really over the line but it's so easy to go over the line hands. May i remind people we do have a. Let's say loose cannon on team europe who really hasn't completely made himself comfortable in his. I can trash talk with the best players in the world stance so you probably don't want him getting too involved with this but you know mosconi. Cup is not a tournament edition. It's five of the top players for america five of the top players from europe. I remember years and years ago. When things blew up with earl and diana hoppy was with him at the time everyone knows diana and she took him aside. Said you're not playing in a tournament. This is an exhibition so again it's trash talk. You know what some people like it. Some people don't i fall in the don't category but pay on one person. One person with a podcast so either way that is what's what's been happening As far as what is going to be happening this weekend. Starting tomorrow the maryland state table. Ten ball. Championship at bruise cues. That is going to be another on the hill production. So i expect we'll have full coverage of that next week and then of course after that. Come tuesday we have the mosconi cup. So that's what's coming up as far as my interview for this week. Like i said i spoke to gerry. Forsythe we went We started off talking about the tokyo open. And then we went off to to talking about in which all pull fans really should spend time talking about effort so here we go without further. Ado i give you gerry. Forsythe joined now by the keeper of all billiards information. Gerry forsythe gerry. How're you doing. I'm doing good mike about you. Can't complain that good. The reason that i wanted to talk this week is november fourteenth. Two thousand one. Tokyo nine ball. Remember that one. Oh yeah yes. That was a political football very interesting tournament now for for those listeners. Like myself who don't know much about this event by efren a hundred and sixty thousand dollars in prize money. There's got to be a story behind that well that that was just his prize money. That was just first place. I don't remember what the total prize money was but it was huge. It was the richest tournament to that. Date that had ever been held and I can't remember the gentleman's name who owns this company. It was either takashi or something similar like that yeah his names just not gonna come to me but he just come out with a brand new table the nagato pool table and it was a copy of the goal groundfloor and or go ground before it and come out yet. I don't think And held this huge tournament And formed organization called the international billiard council which was a competitor to j. bef japanese pocket billiard federation and they were having political war and they were banning players from playing in each other's events and all that but at any rate this tournament did come off and Like you say efren one and he went over a hundred and six hundred sixty three thousand was the actual amount plus some change but it was twenty million yen first prize. That check held up at the end. Said twenty million yen on it. That was the richest person anyone had ever wanted that to that date. And who would break it three years later three or four years later ephron One two hundred thousand dollars at the ipt. Right now if i if i search on a we've got information from ole one two zero three of an international billiard council tour. That would be it. I didn't i didn't remember him. Having other events though. Did he have any in. The united states does it say does does is see Saupiquet second straight. ibc title with a six one. Six one victory over johnny archer in the finals of the i. B c u s championship Billiards and that would have been september of two. Wow and that had seventy nine thousand. That was seventy nine thousand first prize. No that was total prize. Money for the event looks like it was based on paying way down in the field. They were paying a thousand dollars to thirty third place. Okay and then. In tokyo they paid. I believe two thousand down to thirty third choice. I did not go to the tournament. J. o. b.'s. Okay but you were at the events in tokyo. Oh yeah. I mean really. This event is more proof. Positive that the old adage is true that you can have as many organizations as you want in pool and we have more than enough three letter abbreviations in pool. But it's still really comes down to. Who has the biggest checkbook exactly exactly At least on the pro tour seen that's true ever has the money is going to get the player so so tell me about this event. it ran. What four days to corey about this event the other day and he said he remembered vendors there but that was about all he remembered he said the rest of it was just you know he just played every played and and moved on well. The tournament itself was like any other tournament. But this was my first time to ever go to tokyo and we had a day before the tournament started to tour or tokyo and so a bunch of us went into town because we knew we been given the name of a street where there were To really nice pool room and so we get to that street and walking down the street looking for the pool rooms and there there is a fella from tokyo with us. I'm not sure if it was takahashi player or someone else but what what amazed us was. The highways were four and five highways tall because they had run out of space in tokyo to build new roads so they were building roads above one another they. They went up with their roads instead of out and the same thing was true with they had a housing shortage. Because there's just no place to build houses and so many generations of a family. We're living in the same small home or apartment. Now that's turns out. That's a japanese custom that that family stays together through multiple generations. But it was. It was forced on them at that time. Because there was no place they could go and The to pool rooms were right across the street from one another on this busy street and one of them had like one hundred twenty tables and the other one had ninety some tables. They were both Three to five stories tall with boo tables on every level and nice restaurants nightclubs on the bottom level And both of them had wait lists for tables twenty four hours a day because tables always busy and the of an average wait time for a table was a couple of hours so pu was huge in tokyo in two thousand one. And i'm sure you're the one who told me the story years ago. Was it tokyo. Where there were high end cues up on the rack with like a piece of yarn over them to let people know that they were not house cues yes yeah they. The people didn't bother locking their cues up. They just put them on the wall with you know a piece of string or something to say they were and people left them alone not to say anything negative about any particular q. Company but are we talking about schmucky is they're talking about mcdermott's mu cheese predators. I mean th predator at the time but you know what kind of cues talking about well. The most popular q. Back then was Meiji so there were a lot of mutual around Palmer's sure mcdermott's germany was really hot Especially overseas they love. Mcdermott us over there. It was all the cues that were popular at the time I don't remember seeing any bills. Strahl or richard blacks but Wouldn't it wouldn't surprise me to have seen them up there. And that was i mean. That was another huge year for ephron. Oh one he was the number one money winner which of course you would expect him to be you know. But but without that tournament he was still seventy thousand and winnings in your recollection just how dominant was ephron back when he was at the top of his game Unbelievable dominant he. He just he just seemed to win. Every big event and especially if it was the very fact after he won this event He told the interviewer that he always liked to win. The first event of a new series that he really always tried harder to win that very first event But he you know. He won the first Open event in the ipt as well. You know you had that first. Showdown between Mike and Laura john but then when they had a real tournament he was the first winner. You think he just dug deep when when he knew he had to. You know i. I never saw efren looking like he was concentrating. Hard core or putting out an extra effort or anything he he always seemed to be so easy going and everything seemed to be so natural for him now. That did fall apart in the finals of this event When he was leading he was playing neal's fan and they were racing to fifteen and he was leading like ten to five or eleven to five something like that and both of their games suddenly left them and they were missing. Both of them were missing. Shots that they would never miss in the same rack. Both of them gave up ball in hand missing very easy one rail kick. They missed the whole ball. And that's the only I've seen weakness in ephron at all but at the same time he was getting very close to winning the most money anybody ever won and boo And he he wasn't the only one to go week. 'cause neal's went week as well He wound up winning fifteen to seven. But the last few racks were not Beautiful ephron run out racks. It's interesting that you mention missing kicks corey when we talked to the other day referenced. Ephron was the first one who who brought kicking safe into the game. As as a reporter. At the time i mean. Was there a time when you were watching him. Play and had that realization. Oh my god. He's he's kicking safe. He's not just hitting the ball and hoping for something. Good to happen actually. I didn't make that realization myself. A player made for me. I believe it was johnny archer and effort had just finished a match and this was not at this event. This was another event. And johnny sat down next to me and said that guy is changing the game and i said how do you mean. He said he's kicking to make shots not to hit a ball. And yeah you also kicked to play a safety and make it work so he was not just trying to hit the ball. He was trying to hit an aiming point on the ball and that really did change the game. That's when folks like judge and corey orel and all. Those guys started practicing their kicking game because they realized how powerful tool that was to have in their arsenal. If someone played them a safety they need to be able to kick their way out of it and they all got pretty good at it pretty fast. So in in the time that you've reported on the game you've had ephron revolutionize the kicking game. You've had corey revolutionized the break would you consider the jump. Cue revolutionizing things. Yeah it's it's it's not a revolution that i care for Frankly i don't like jump queues. I think if you play a safe the other person. I'd have to kick their way out of it rather than pull out. Shorts trick stick but most people disagree with me on that but Yeah the junkie was def definitely changed the game. I won't say it changed for the better but it sure did change it and there are guys who who specialize in the jump but would you consider them as individuals revolutionizing the game or more the equipment moving forward and them taking advantage of that chain equipment or i think the equipment. Yeah when they they. I you know i. People were jumping with just a shaft. They just unscrew the stick and jump with the shaft and then that was made illegal You couldn't jump with something shorter than i believe. Forty four inches. So they had to put these. They invented these little bitty lightweight q. Butts that when you unscrewed the shaft. You're playing queue this little would screw on there and then you could jump with it because that made it the right length But yeah it's i mean to jump. Cue certainly changed the game as much as any piece of equipment over. Has i wish i'd have been in tokyo. Sounds like it was a great event. It was the the the finals was in is was in a separate room off from the main room. That only had this one table and it is up is i remember and it was just jam. Packed with people especially The sporting press of japan all the major newspapers were there the tv networks. Were there All filming this thing and It was really impressive. V very impressive. event I would like to have had the opportunity to go to more events over there because they though the officials were were spot on and Everything ran on time. It was spirit. Bringing nice in the money was great. You made a comment more than a few years ago that you thought china was the future of the game did it. Did it feel like that in japan. At that time you know with all the undercurrent of war between the federation's it didn't it it. It felt like something was gonna happen. But you didn't know what and as it turned out i just sort of died and went away. Sounds like a lot of things that have happened in the sport Yeah yeah we've seen a lot of swan songs in this game. Speaking of swan songs. I one of the things they were using in this in this event was the Oh what was the name of that. Rack dogs. When you pray. Yeah the star. They're using sato rack and One of the referees. It was the charred iraq where you had to put the balls in press on a lever on top. Remember that oh yeah and he he could not get that to work and the one ball kept rolling off the front of the spot and at one point nobody saw it but the one ball was probably a quarter of an inch away from the balls in the and in the row. I row of two and it was neal's fe break and i was sitting there going. Oh this is going to be muddy. ugly break. neal's roared back and hit those ball so hard that he sank two balls on the break and got a great spreading around the table. I couldn't believe it but he but you have to remember back then kneels. He was in danger of breaking the cue ball every time he he Hit a break shot. He was one powerful guy. I mean he's still is back back then. He was twenty years younger. And if there were any weakness in efforts game it was always his break. Wasn't it yeah but you know he never saw. That is a weakness. He just said it's not a strength but it sure didn't keep him away from the table very much people that would normally run rack after rack. After rack. after rack would get up and play. Efren and their boots were shaking they. They could not play as well against effort as they did against anybody else. 'cause they were scared i mean they should. They should have been scared of him. The guy was a magician. Well the game is definitely weaker without his presence in it. Yeah it's it's missing. Something without effort goes well. He was just so magical to watch and he was always so different from all the other players. He didn't have a big ego He was very down to earth When he had spare time he wanted to spend playing chess. You know he's different breed of cat and who's the closest think we have to him right now. Alex well certainly not in personality I think maybe Shane van boning because he has the same kind of quiet attitude. He's understated you know you don't you. Don't see shane. Running around pool rooms bragging. He's very quiet. Just let us stick to his talking and hopefully. We haven't seen the best of shane in his career. Well probably not. He's still maturing aright. Well that's what i was curious about. You know the event came up as something that had happened on this day in billiards. And i thought god you know. There's there's the story of this tournament. But i don't know anything about it. It was fun except the flight over and the flight back were miserable. Abdul like flying. Were you working for. Pnb at the time. Yeah yeah so then. There's an old early two thousand two pool and billiard magazine out there with a write up on this. Because i couldn't find an answer news and probably a billiards digest as well. Because a lot of times where. I went overseas. I've worked for both of them Assume a different name for one of them right to totally different articles But that but that way they got to split my expense money and it didn't cost them hardly anything well. Fortunately nobody listens to this so they won't know well. I think anyone who would care already knew all right. Well then that gives us a goal to track down an older oa-to billiards digest pool builder magazine and learn more. About this event. It would be either december of two thousand and one or january of two thousand two. And i've got all these old pool and billiard magazine's somewhere but they're not in any order but if i can find him i'll i'll see you packing find it see if we can come up with anything new. All right sounds good. I will let you get back to it. Thank you sorry you have a good one. Thanks you too. Okay bye bye all right. That was jerry and that was that was talking about effort. I don't know exactly what. I don't know exactly who i'll have for the show next week. I don't have anything lined up. It's it's mosconi cup week. So i'm not really sure. I think i may be doing a post day. Show with nate over at hughhewitt up just talking about one of the days of the event. I don't know which day but everyone's going to be watching that. So there's a possibility i won't even have a show next week but who knows either way i appreciate everybody taking the time out of their day to listen this week and once again dave. We are all thinking about you.

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A Conversation With The Captain

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A Conversation With The Captain

"Song welcome back to American Billiard radio. Today is Thursday October 22nd home and we've got a slightly different format to this episode something. I've been tossing around in my mind and I finally decided to give it a shot off. The difference is usually I quickly some up stories from the past week or so. And and this is something that Dave England used to do. So that's that was his thing and because he felt strongly about that I continue to try to do it at the beginning of the episode. It's not really my game. But that's that was something he did. So what we're going to do a little different what I'm going to do a little different in this episode is I'm going to focus on a couple of stories and not give you some sound bites from people regarding those stories and then we will get into the one big interview that I usually do. So the main interview for this show is Home Team USA Captain Jeremy Jones, and we will get to that but first bring everybody up to speed on the news if you're not an avid viewer of azbilliards, why wouldn't you be the poisoned vg10 ball competition that we talked about last episode was Nate that finished up album. Rushan defeated Tyler steinhagen the finals. I talked to Nate and I don't have a sound bite from him, but I'm going to he said that he wanted to talk about the event after he'd had a chance to wage. To finish it all up in and get his his mind together. So that will most likely be next episode. It's nice to see some of the the big events that we've gotten so used to in the midwest coming back all of them kind of disappeared due to Over there to watch that event. We had a a big event a big streamed event over the last week with Tyler steyer Found Jesus. Atencio. They were playing ten ball at Roy's basement. Jesus was given the nine ball. So for the one or two people who don't understand that spot Jesus could win by making the 9 or the 10 Tyler had to make the ten. It was a great match that I watched part of it online. I spoke to a boy over at Roy's basement about the match. And the first thing that he mentioned was that Tyler really impressed him. So listen to what he had to say about Tyler. I know a lot of folks were like kind of like they want to be Tyler fans, you know, but kind of like, I don't know he's got this Eagle, you know, he's too much, you know, he wants everything he's waste but you know, what as soon as he came here and Roy's basement he opened up to me and then he we we made him feel right at home him and Hong Kong didn't want to leave the place anymore the basement. They said this is a dream place for anybody who's taking pool seriously, cuz I showed him the gym that we hang out where we train, you know for cardio and all that which you do need for long sessions of pool plane and his like man, I want to live here and with that in mind, he said that he was also extremely impressed with Jesus. He wasn't as familiar with Jesus his game, but he he described how he saw Jesus and then went on to describe Thursday. itself and his he showed me some he came back. I mean this guy I'm talking about ice veins, you know, I mean nothing you can't get nothing out of him while he's sitting down. He's so focused on the table like he wants to get off and shoot again. And so he he's a warrior at this young age. I think he just turned Twenty-One or twenty-two with Tyler even though the first day Tyler was a 12 points at one time and I'm like, oh, okay. Well, we'll get this is what we're going to see if Jesus can come back with this down twelve points on the first day going a hundred thousand. So he slowly, you know, he slowly got his game that he I mean he's he was calm, you know, not panicking and all that. So that was a Plus on the first day off and he cut the lead down to end the day once from 12 to 6 points. So I'm like you showed me something I got. Okay now they too big turn around his shoes took over. Just to go over the day too. So to end the day too with a score of him being up now ten points on the third day and then attend the first day they were given over under on his dues to end the first day the over-under on the first day the stand for Jesus 10:00, and and I think it was 33 me if I'm thirty-three twenty-seven. I think that was the score during the day one. So tense. Oh, okay. Those guys were like ten that's the overall under, you know, twelve years now on the day to the chat box switch around. None of the power fans, were there any more you know, it's it's all Jesus day to like, oh Tyler's so, you know, so to start the day it's all about Jesus fans. And that's so many cuz it's not known came along chat box. I'm saying his Pilot's done. This kid is done. Guess what for a young age to Tyler? He showed me something here again. He's so focused. Like I can't believe it between these two. I mean, I couldn't believe it. This is probably one of the great matchup ever done in terms of what they put in the content, you know, I mean, it's all hard, you know, they're so focused, you know for the mayonnaise and and it's like two Gladiators in the arena that they just want to chapter each other's heads off after the mat. They shake hands they eat the same food from the basement. No, they joke around, you know, they're both sponsored by Predators, you know, but on the table, I mean, they're Fearless the Warriors, you know, and I'm like, oh, I like what I'm saying here. I watched some more of this. So on the day 3 not the thing happened Jesus being up 10. I saw him just sitting down on his chair for about eight games. Mike and Tyler putting on what he could do on the table. That's why you've been seeing him a lot on this virtual pool tournaments, you know where it's going to go. So whatever that's why you've been seeing him a lot getting in the finals, you know. Training paying off, you know now being down 10 points on the third day, which is the finale of the match off now, he's up one point at 7271. So I'm like I'm believable. This match is something else and I think he got up as much as a 75-71 Four Points, you know on the third day. And then and then back and forth swings back and forth. I take the lead, you know, you take the lead I take the lead back, you know back and forth. So the match could have gone either way at the end even at the back end when the school was 97-92 Jesus and he stopped shooting and it's Tyler's turned. So when when it's Tyler Stern at 9 to 7 a.m. To being down Five Points He looked at the school right next to me. And I mean his soft voice. She said Roy watched the eight pack cuz I just done it recently on the Facebook live doing the ghosts. Watch the 8-pack. It could happen again. I was like, oh my God, I mean this is something else. I like this. I love this match. You know, I mean, this is probably the same matchup ever done in the basement. You know, I mean, it's not about superstars the top Pros, you know playing it's it's the it's it's what they did to the game at that moment. You know, I mean, they give you 100 20% to the game, you know, it's all about I gotta win. I got a win, you know, and they respect each other, you know, they just let their games out there and pay so be it. Let's see who's a better guy right now, you know and he did he did ran three packs. Okay to make this 499 a month. 95 okay when when he broke. To Cuba got smacked around and ended up on the side pocket. I was focusing the camera on his shoes. He sitting down thinking am I going to be back up again and get to shoot again? You know, he's got this looks like I might I might not be able to shoot again. He could finish me off from here. I want to score was six seventy-five. He could finish me up here. I'm going to be able to get back to the table and on the other hand. He also have this look like I could see him changing his body language was down like like like grabbing his his little towel holder and then cleaning his Q like, oh, I can't wait to get up. I'll finish him off. Give me a chance to get up and shoot again. So that's that's the body language, you know grabbing HQ, and I was like why you grabbing you sitting down and shoot, you know, there's no way you know, you're going to shoot out, you know, but he's game Ready? That means he's giving you a sign huge get ready. I can't wait to shoot again at this moment. I looked at Tyler's face was like you ain't shooting again while he was on the table. This is it off. This is it I'm going to I'm that's it. It's going to be 192. It's probably going to be the greatest money game in rotation finish off, you know, that's how close that match but okay. So 97-95 toddler broke scratch on the side and that was it like that's how close that match was. And when I talked to Roy about what he's got coming up, which what is amusing is when we talked he didn't mention that he was working on a rematch between Tyler and Jesus that was announced after he and I spoke but again while we spoke we talked briefly about what he has come home. Ben what he wants to focus on right now to tell you the two with this match that we just did with Jesus and Tyler. We're in good hands in the future if there will be more players like young players like this month. I think we're in good hands for the for the future of pool. You know, I mean, they just handle themselves, you know, like professional everything the way you want it a play that would be the day. That's how they express themselves. And just so that you can mark it on your calendar. The rematch between Tyler and Jesus is scheduled for November 13th through the 15th interestingly enough the Oscar Dominguez, Mika. Immonen $10,000 one pocket is going on at the exact same time. That's November 13th and 14th. And then just announced Tony Chauhan and Scott Frost are matching up to play one pocket and November 19th through the 21st. So for those of you who enjoy those challenge matches online mid-november looks great speed of challenge matches. The biggest event coming up this weekend is a doubleheader Rackham TV is doing it Omega Billiards is also involved in a big way. This is Shane Van boening Dennis. Orcollo. One more time. They are playing 10 ball race to 120. There is also what you might consider a month undercard event with Team Oklahoma versus Team, Texas Sky Woodward Jeremy Jones, Roberto Gomez CJ Wiley and Ming-Ming 14, Texas. Joey gray. Chip Compton Shane McMahon Billy Dyke and Brittany Maynard for team, Oklahoma. I spoke to Mike Wang over at Omega Billiards off and you know, I mentioned that the team event kind of feels like it might be an undercard of sorts. But from what Mike said, it sounds like that wage. 13 matchup is a lot more than just trying to fill space around this Dennis schain match. I can look at the sport. I look at the basketball and NBA NFL baseball and why do we what do people connect how do people connect to those teams? What they find the connection kind of like, you know, I live in Texas so long to root for any teams from Texas versus in a different state, you know people in California the more likely to root for any team from California when that team play and you know a team from New York. So yep, that's how for me that's how it came about in terms of like, you know, try to create a connection between the the the average fans of the game or people that like the game and and and connect them to the prompt us and that's how the Oklahoma all songs and the Texas all the stars being spotted and while though that team match is certainly important to Mike the shame. Tennis match is the important one for just about everybody else might described how that came together. I want to make it into a huge huge event. And you know, I'm a little concerned with with the the two all-star teams might not be able to bring enough exposures to themselves. So I was like, well, let's see if we can put together match, you know between freedom watch the news greatest player to ever live in in America too versus to the number one money player in the world right now. And that is Shane and Dennis and while Shane on going away the last time the two played Mike described some changes. They were making this time to hopefully make things a little more level of a playing field. Not that you necessarily have to level the playing field when you've got Dennis shooting on one side, but still Mike described some changes they made and hopefully that will will even And things up a little bit. It will be a race to $129 with a $9 on the brake on on the spot and break from the Box 3.0. So I you know is a thing a lot of people say that shame can only be dentist because of his Superior break. So we will find out because by doing this format that the you know, we're kind of takes away Shane's break, but you know, we'll find out how you know, I think Shane is so underrated as a you know, kinds of pool play Pocket in balls, but he's you know how long you know and unfortunately strategies but you know will we will find out this is going to be great. We also had some sad news this week. The passing of Danny Green with Danny was the creator of the planet pool tour out in Washington. I reached out first to Jenny Malloy looking for some information on Danny. She had posted job. Line about him. She recommended that I speak to Vicky Capone Mike Capone from Capone custom cues wife. I spoke to Vicky and I asked her to tell me a little bit about Danny Danny for as long as I can remember. He was a pool player. He started playing pool as a student and Community College. There is a like a community rec room on the campus and Rockville Maryland where he was attending classes and he started getting really good at pool and and I started skipping his classes and eventually pool is very much Danny's life as much as this community gym and pool and in this region was influenced by Danny Green Danny Green's entire life was influenced by pool pretty much every wage. He did from that moment when he first started playing pool at the community college somehow centered around living a life in the the lifestyle of pool in the culture of pool with his his friends were pulled players. There was really no one or still to this day. No one in a Washington DC region who has been a pool player who hasn't touched by Danny in some way either through Planet Cool through his office as a cue maker and and a key repair person the lessons that he gave he was an instructor and and taught many people myself included a lot about the game. They're still shots that when I Step up to the table to make it it's Danny's Voice. But I hear telling me what to do, you know strategies to like for for suitable off The Rail Club or something like that. Danny played all over the region. He played all over the country. You were a player for a long time. He liked to keep kind of a low profile if that was even possible given life, you know, he was such a kind of Infamous player. He was really Dynamic player. He he played fast and loose he had you know, like his pre-shot routine was almost non-existent and you know photographers used to joke that it was really difficult to get a photograph of Danny playing pool because all the photos were blurry Because by the time they could focus the camera on him. He he was already moving on to the next shot. You know, he was fast and loose and really every part of his life. He he was an idea person. He had a million ideas for businesses that he wanted to start hotel rooms that you wanted to open from, you know other businesses always somehow related to pool but there was always something brewing and off Planet pool alternately was one of the outcomes of his creativity and his sons are sort Hardware to say entrepreneur very entrepreneurial Spirit. He started playing pool and really grow it into one of the major regional tours. That was really long long lasting it was years but Planet pool existed. The tournaments were always sold out. He did a lot for The players a lot for you know, he supported a lot of women playing pool and made sure that you know that there was good prizes adequate prizes for the women's tour as well as for the men he arranged actually the time that my husband was my husband. Mike cottone was one of the sponsors of playing pool and if memory serves if you were the points winner for the women, then you want to come custom Q big deal for women school back. Then I had also read that Danny was very proud of being acknowledged in David mccumbers book playing off the rail. So I asked Vicky about that. Yes. I was something that came up from time to time even even recently but back in the back in the nineties when that book was first made it was the late. Yep. I can't even remember now in that book was first released. He was over the moon, you know, he was really excited about that and excited not only for himself being featured in the book. But you know, his girlfriend was with him on the day that that they that he ran across and Camber and Tony a Negroni his girlfriend was there and he was proud to have had her featured and there's several other young players that were mentioned and he kind of felt like it put him on the map and and kind of gave him even though he was he didn't always want a lot of acknowledgement. He didn't want a lot of attention as long as role players can attend to try to avoid it was nice. I think for him to get that kind of an acknowledgement is bludgeoned is being this, you know this good road player. Okay, that is pretty much it as far as as bringing people up to speed on the news again. My my main interview for this week is Jeremy Jones. Team captain Team USA Jeremy and I talked about mosconi cup as you would expect that we would then we went back to an interview that I did with Jeremy years and years and years ago when the camel tour was going on and and we had talked briefly back then about the idea of a Players Association and really I just kind of wanted to come back and touch on that idea in the interview and we kind of went down that road for a bit longer than I expected that we would we also touched on his budding career in commentary and that's who he thought might be the next Sid Waddell and then we cycled back around to Moscow niqab and talked about the decision for the fifth member of Team USA. So long without all in mind I give you Jeremy Jones Very proud to be joined by mosconi Cup team captain Jeremy Jones Jeremy. Are you busy getting ready for my Stony? Yeah, Mike besides a constantly thinking about it, you know, the guys have played a lot more pool the last couple of months. Um, a lot of them are actually preparing for a couple of events coming up which is really good. They're going to get some good stiff competition before going overseas. So yeah, you know Joey and I discussing a lot of things every day. You know, we got a of course the format it's been pretty similar to last couple of years. So we're you know, we heard maybe there's going to be a change in the format mildly. So we're kind of waiting to hear about that. And then and then think accordingly so and how exactly has the the covin situation changed the way that you guys prepare. I know, you know in a past the the team came together, they traveled overseas they played in events, but that's not really possible this year. Yeah, we you know, we did some one-on-ones some of the guys fortunate enough to be able to come a couple of times here to the house and found, you know, like last week. I saw Chris and Peoria, we worked a little bit and talked a lot. You know, of course is not like going to Russia and playing the dream Challenge and and having a few other events to hang out with all year, you know kind of build that camaraderie, but I think it's a pretty close group. So we got the Texas state open coming up soon, which is going to you know, get us all together for about a week or so. So I like the position where you and I talked to Chris either day. He mentioned the possibility of having to quarantine before the event. Well, we know the guys have to live and what not and do their things but we have to test before we go overseas. And so that test is on the third day to where we feel like, uh, give it give the advice to the guys and recommended. Hey, you know, we want your practice and we want you training we want you happy of course, but also you got to be smart cuz we can't I can't really afford a negative test. We try to hop on some flights you played on mosconi cup you and I talked before we started the interview. I believe you said seven times right? How did the years as a player contrast with the last two years where you were vice-captain and then and then this year very different I was kind of always a player that that you know, whenever I was you know in the right shade meaning practicing a lot training a lot whatever get prepared being prepared is always a player that kind of played by myself when I was in a match meaning I didn't see cameras too much. Of course, I felt the moment of the mosconi cup and can't ignore that but much more stressful. I think as a as a co-captain the last two years than a player. And I can't really pinpoint why I guess maybe just because you really involved in every shot, you know, you go through a whole year of some training and some things that you know, all the players have Tendencies meaning whenever they're nervous or whenever you know, they make the mistake. It's very similar mistakes. So, you know you work on things for a year and then you see mistake come out but I just like a match as soon as they make a good shot when a game all that's forgotten. So, I mean, it's just a different feeling I guess overall way more stressful way more anxious as a as a captain on the sidelines. And when you were playing who were the captains that you played under? Plane captains most most of the time Nick was a captain. It wasn't playing one year. I was also under him a couple of years as a plane Captain Johnny was a plane Captain Earl one time was a plane Captain if I remember correctly and that's about it. I think Nick may have had four stents of the car or plane Captain while I was there Johnny to an earlier one, I believe. What kind of differences do you see from the last two years with Johannes the captain back to the playing Captain days when you were playing? Well, you know back whenever I played we really didn't do a training sessions and and travel as a group so much. I think you know the game fortunately to bring it up to the years that the US law so, you know some consecutive years kind of puts a different plan in place, um, you know directed towards wage going to cut but also trying to build that that degree of greatness in pool in America again, especially at least at the professional level. So I you know, I think that's the way it's going back, but you know whenever I played Of course we talked about it. We trained together while we were there to England for a week before the tournament or or in Vegas depending and you know, we gave each other life stuff, but it was just a little bit different meaning, you know, you expect those professionals to show up ready and also, you know, we had a tour usually it's just something that constructed a tour of a lot of great events that was kind of like training in itself. Right? So I would wish I would say is the direction it's heading back in as far as not only tournaments here, but the guys getting prepared through competing and you know, it's more like they were getting themselves in shape and then like the mosconi cup. Is that balance, right? So when Johan named you vice-captain now, what do you think? He saw you know that that made him choose you. well, there was a he told me really there was not many others just because of I think some respect factor with the the younger guys have a low connection with the younger guys kind of just I was still playing a lot compared against them. Also, you know knowing the guys also I think in 2017 explained to me that he didn't feel a real good connection with some of the players and not knowing my background or going on for twenty years or thirty years or whatever you might you know, however long I've known a lot of them and I you know, so I think that just pretty pretty much Supply to bridge between Johan and the players and also I'm sure some knowledge and and what kind of conversations have you had with Johann over the last year or two prepare for this year. Where we really haven't talked about this year at all really be honest. We hadn't spoken with him and and and sometime this is kind of you know, I guess we both got busy with pandemic and trying to deal with things but you know the last couple of years I certainly learned some things from Johann massive or Asian and he's really really good very smart, man. Yeah, I mean, I guess it's kind of like I said, I think it's going to you know before the pandemic it looked like it was going to be a lot of events to be able to see a lot of things off about 4 and then you know, of course the Moscone was going to go back off of the rankings for a few of the spots. Uh, so I think it's heading back in the direction to where these guys know, they can win and and they're dead, um going to be prepared a lot more without the captain being so involved, you know, of course will train but it's not going to be crazy. You know, that's hard to train at the group and travel as a group. You know eight weeks out of year. That's a lot, right? So We actually did an interview had well over 20 years ago right about the time the camel tour was ending and you mentioned in that interview with the idea that the players could have done more and should do more to come together to organize the future of the game if we could match room out of the equation. It would be pretty easy to say, you know, the game of pro pool is in no better place than it was when the camel to our collapsed looking back over the last twenty years. What do you think the players could have done? And and what do you think the players did right and wrong looking at at their future? Well, you know, I kind of always say it about myself write it, you know, we could always do a lot more leg work. Meaning, you know, it's kind of like kind of like the nature of the Beast a little bit. no, you got a The mentality is you gotta look out for yourself a little bit. And that's that's very true and many many facets. But as far as like the guys they still don't. And it was good of friends as they are. They really don't get together and work together as much meaning like I said doing a little legwork that really builds the sport and you know, that's not their fault. I mean that's like I said that you got to think yourself, you know, everybody has individual sponsors that are and and fans and different people that are pulling at them. So, you know along with trying to raise families and whatnot. So, um, you know, you pick out situations and you look at it individual and the last thing you can say about each one of them is probably like you can't blame them meaning like, you know, if this person is going off and working for themselves and not trying to build the game as much. Well, they're probably doing it for a good reason because I need to so that's a hard question though mine. So, I don't know. I mean, I think the players could use an association still even though a lot of associations have ended up not being too good. So we're kind of tarnished a little bit. But I think it done in the right way. I think players could on some tournaments themselves along with working with other promoters. And obviously you get to see this from the inside, you know, what is going on at Matt's room and what some of the goals that that Emily in particular and matchroom have long. Does it look as promising from the inside view that you have as it does from the outside and you know, it's been a long time since we've been able to look at something and pro pool and I consider it promising but you know, Matt room seems to have an awful lot of of plans when it comes to Pro pool especially apropos in America. Yeah, well, I think they know this is the market at least on the amateur side. There's a huge markets everywhere for it. But on amateur side, it's huge here. I'm not sure than anywhere else in the world. I think anyways. and you know the one thing about mastering the very smart obviously and at the same time trying to be successful for their company as they should but I think they see that it's a sport grows know there at the head of it, you know, and they're going to make good decisions. They're probably going to be very successful with it. Whereas You know again, I can't blame anybody but there's a lot of promoters that I feel like had this little Nets bag. You might say that their secure with doing every month and they don't, you know, not saying they don't improve their tournaments or do things but you can honestly say we play for sometimes a lot less prize money than we did twenty years ago. So the mentality is let me make sure I get that Nest Egg rather than take a chance at a long-term growing kind of thing. Is that make sense? Well, the game has definitely stagnation and if you want to compare back to the camel teases, it's certainly taken a step back as far as price funds go and organization. Do you think the the bulb the path is an outside organization that runs eight or a sort of tour with the possibility of wage and Association of players maybe being advisors. Yeah, definitely. I mean I that's what I say about in association. I think it done correctly with the correct agenda that I think it's very doable to where the players not only work together as a unit cuz we are colleagues even though we have to unfortunately beat each other for money, but I think that not only the players will work together as a unit but that unit could easily work together with outside sources and I think that's really the main way that the game will grow to its fullest and what I'm getting at is the player could realize that you know, we should be adding money to our internal. We should be out doing the legwork the promotion work and stuff like that to where you know, we go to a certain tournament a and we say, okay you're adding as much what we want to add this much on top of it. I think that's a very doable system and it works in other sports as well. And there was I mean not to not to name individual names and certain we've got, you know twenty years to to refer back to but you know in the past we've had player organizations and they really didn't seem focused on dead. What they could bring to the table. Let's say best case scenario. You know, let's let's just say sky's the limit and you're running wage Players Association. What can you bring to the table aside from? Well, we'll add X number of dollars to your prize fund. Well, like like I said the players working as a unit like work. I mean like, you know, when they have a pro golf tournament Chicago, let's say and it off Sunday. Well that following Monday. They start working on that that next tournament 12 months away in Chicago now, they don't work every day at it. But you know, you send you send players out of the unit to promote in those areas, you build a fanbase, you know, you do whatever you can as far as like I said legwork you build a charity you do think create a fan base because that's what it's going to take. And to be honest with you my God, I solely believe if the players were as a group in a good way. I think you should see the amateur support of that go through the roof. I couldn't imagine that we're talking about really making pool and professional pulls good as it can be I couldn't imagine the amateur players around the country and really around the world not supported. Anyway, that that that's bad. I mean and there's a lot of other little things that go along with it, you know, all the guys know that hey we're working together. I think you would see a massive change in the World Arena as far as the sportsmanship and not saying it's bad, but I think you would see it grow even better, you know. On on the ladies side of professional pool. There's the WPA and and part of the reason the wpba succeeded was that all of the players were able to set aside their own agendas for the most part and and create the tour now whether that tour is as successful as it was at one time is not the question. But do you think the top males are able to put aside their own personal interests for a an association that could help the game of pro pool? Yeah, I mean and to further on that. I mean you wouldn't ask him to do to set us. I mean you got to think of yourself of course, but it would be in my opinion a win-win situation. You know, of course, you know, you ask again player number eight at sponsored by you know, company page whatever they're doing their company names going to be right on their shirts. So, I mean, it's like a sponsors would love personal sponsors would love it all would be was just being able to promote the players and promote wage, you know, whatever Tour tournaments that need to be promoted. I don't feel like you know, how could they not right because the well we're trying to do is build the purses and and have more tournaments. So if that's happening, I would think the support from the players should be home. Actually. I think it would just only benefit them as in a short-term answer. It would just benefit them in the long term. No problem. I mean no questions asked it's just basically adding, you know their name. And and I want to change gears for a second back to you personally. Now you have you have a huge resume in the game u.s. Open 9-ball Champion US Open Market Champion runner up at the world 9-ball. And now you have you know, seven-time player Captain A Team USA. You've become one of the top commentators in the game. How did that come along? I mean what got that started and and what do you think it is that makes you as sought after as a commentator As You Are Well, I mean first off the information is pretty pretty good kind of know all games pretty well that helps so, you know, there's a a lot of material that I've done so people feel pretty well, you know pretty good about hiring me but it kind of start I believe really I remember correctly. I started doing it at the world nine-ball championships. And then with Sid Waddell, I don't remember sit or not. He was a he was a thousand. Yeah, he was great great commentator. And and so I started doing it with Sid which would sit made it easy. He was always a lot of fun. So I had the little success doing it there and then I started off just to do it, you know for a few companies will action t a key stats. And it just kind of went from there and and it's weird because I kind of grew up. You know, when we grew up Mike. I didn't have cable TV until later in life. But you know, there was like Monday Night Football there was of course a few games on Sunday commentators for the World Series and what not, but the commentators in my mind were kind of part of the show off. Whereas when I watch a lot of games these days or when I did last year year before I didn't know half the commentators, you know, when they were telling me what was going on with the football game, but I grew up watching Howard Cosell a lot and stuff like that. So I always kind of like the commentators be honest with you Frank Gifford. I believe was one of them to you see another Sid Waddell in the game right now, you know what he brought to commentary. Well, he was pretty unique. That's for sure and a lot of experience. I mean, of course you just didn't do pool Affiliates. It's pretty awesome. He's definitely changed than said you can't really replace it. But feel is very very good. A lot of fun very knowledgeable always says the right thing at the right time seems like uh, so everybody I've worked with I would say feel silly 8 and close as you can get and and and to come back around to Team USA you recently announced your five players and and the first 4 Picks. I mean those were packed automatic. You were successful the last two years with Tyler. Why wasn't Tyler automatic? Well, I mean, I think it'd be silly to look at anybody is automatic. Of course, there were three names in my mind that made the team that way, you know, you could be as close to automatic as you get I guess and you know looking back like I said before the pandemic started. I really expected and it looked like with the tournament selection and and the players that were out young players. They were out playing. And some veterans that they were going to be maybe six seven guys to look out for those final two spots and in a fair way, that's the right way Captain look at it like it's a numbers game. And and nothing to take away from Tyler. We did win the last few years with Tyler on the team, but just like we won the year before with Corey on the team after not winning and how long eight or nine years. We changed the team the very next year because it's basically this, you know, you work with them you look at them and then you got to go make a decision usually and it was a very tough decision this year, but just got to go what we feel like it's going to earn it the most points. I looked at a lot of tapes from the last two years of the mosconi cup evaluated some things and and and you know a gut decision just led me back to Christian know and and and that's just It is what it is. I like our chances. That's the best pic. I like our chances with and what is it that you see in Chris that you think makes a good mosconi cup competitor? Well, you know, it keeps it simple. Constantly trying to learn he's very humble. I think he'll connect and take Direction not only outside the arena the mosconi cup, but also inside the mosconi cup Arena. He's a guy that was training really well and right direction trained really well last couple years and got better and better and honestly, you know, he was wage second of the Americans after three events with the points before covid-19. But just like I said evaluating everything it's just letting me towards press and and that's what we went with. Okay. So, where do you go from here? I could schedule wise and and traveling wise you've got taxes at the end of the at the end of the month. And then what do you have after that to get ready for the cock? I have we are we're all going to be in OKC for an event 23rd through the 25th. And when I say all of us most of us and them will commute down to Austin for the Texas state open then after that, you know, we're going to ask the guys of course he's training and playing a lot but I'm trying to be smart about it as far as cuz we do need to test before we fly over on the 22nd. So we need some you know, all negative test in that regard. So basically guys, you know, stay with the family hit balls. Um, so your thing and and get mentally prepared for the London. All right, sounds good. I think we're all looking forward to seeing how the event goes and of course were 95% of my listeners are pulling for Team USA, but I won't keep you any longer. I appreciate you taking some time for us today and I wish you all off. in the world in London Thanks Mike. And thanks for the interview. Hopefully those were sufficient answers tough questions sometimes but that's how it goes. Right? No problem. I think they were great. Okay. All right. Have a good day Mike. All right. Thanks Jeremy. All right. That was Jeremy. I appreciate everybody's sticking around to the end of the the show. You know again, I tried something new. We'll see how it goes. It may crash and burn it. It may break and run ten. Who knows so we'll see what happens. I want to send out a thanks this week to Roy over at Roy's basement. Mike Wang over at Omega Billiards Vicky Capone and a special thanks to Jeremy Jones for the interview that he did. That is the show for this week. Again. I appreciate everybody listening and Dave. We are always thinking about you. Turn off.

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It Doesnt Cost Anything To Show Some Kindness

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It Doesnt Cost Anything To Show Some Kindness

"Welcome back to american billiard radio. Today is friday november thirteenth s friday the thirteenth. Hopefully everyone will have good luck today and we know it's friday tournaments sometimes kick off on friday. We do have a lot of tournaments coming up this week. And i'll get to those my interview. This week is with the twenty twenty jerry. Bryce south instructor of the year. Roy pastor We talked to roy a couple years ago about his break and run program and this week we touch on that again as well as a new program that he's put together he also talks about what got him into pool and that sort of thing i know last week i had teased that we were also going to have raw hannah on the show this week but honestly the interview with roy ran longer than i thought it was going to so we decided just to stick with the interview with roy in the news. This week Really there wasn't a whole lot. The viking cues q city nine ball tour. They were scheduled to have an event. I can't make this up at a room called still clucking in providence north carolina. You don't you wouldn't see a pool. Room called still clocking in arizona but it's just a different region so anyway. They had their event scheduled. It's still clocking and the authorities contacted the room and said hey if you guys have a bunch of players in there we're gonna come in. Shut you down. So they cancelled the event but Tour director. Herman parker contacted randolph's billiards. Just three hours down the road in hickory north carolina and they had a sixteen player event. There that one was won by doug young. I guess doug had relocated to texas for a few years and this was kind of his welcome back tournament win and fans out there. Expect to see a lot more of him in the winner's circle now that he's back. The other event was the j. p. our northeast women's tour. They were at triple nine. In elkridge maryland caroline pow to tournaments in a row. This time she held off ashley boroughs in the finals. Like i say this was caroline's second straight tour stop win. And she's only played in tour stops. You know you don't see caroline's name in a regional tour stopped where she just had a decent finish. You don't see four tied for fifth something like that. When she comes out to play on an event like that she usually does really well. I had a chance to talk to caroline real briefly. And i asked her how she's able to keep her a game when she isn't out there playing in as many events and and with that opportunity to stay in stroke. I do get to practice Because i am lucky i have. I do have a table at home. So i'm able to practice on my own home But even through the whole coded Our our situation now Workwise it has been very steady so we are lucky that through online sales. And and with this. I guess support of the billiards community and the customers We're still doing very well and steadily. So we're very lucky in that aspect so yeah combination of work and practice and also you know the other stuff that you do. Endorse home cooking and exercising. It's it's it's definitely a different experience. But i think it's been a very I guess healthy and Learning more about yourself pipota experience and you know like a lot of us who have tables at home myself included just having a table at home doesn't mean that you're actually getting on. It's an and practicing that often. I asked caroline just how often she really gets a chance to be on that table and practicing during all of this. You know how it is when you have a table home. It doesn't mean that you would be practicing and spending all your time on it During the beginning. Part of the whole lockdown Definitely didn't really play a whole lot just because there wasn't really any events I do try to practice for the wpa. Most of the well actually all of the events this year except for the first one in january cancelled so there wasn't really a whole lot practice for and so and that's kind of a nice break. I guess and I took advantage of that and of but With some recent tournaments coming up and the situation i think covert has been a little bit better and people are more aware and they wear masks and they try to keep safe That's when i started practicing more but it's still isn't i mean you know i tried to put in. Maybe i don't know five hours a week. So it's you know yeah so it. Yeah definitely It's something though that's really. I guess you know just to keep you in shape like i mentioned. We have a ton going on this weekend. During the height of the pandemic. You would go weekends where there weren't any tournaments but that is certainly not the case this weekend. Let see sunshine state pro. Am tour bar box championship in sanford florida. At racks billiards oscar dominguez emeka imminent are getting together for a a little ten thousand dollar. One pocket challenge match. Neither oscar. Or mika are really known for their one pocket games so that should be an interesting challenge match to watch the action pool tours in virginia for the virginia state eight ball championship arizona. Women's tour is holding their first event back. From pandemic that is their scotch doubles. I think got thirty two teams. That's at main street. Billiards in mesa. We've also got a new england. Nine ball tour. Stop anna q city. Nine ball tour. Stop and don't forget next weekend. Racks billiards in sanford florida. Again i annual mucci classic. That's looking to be about one hundred fifty hundred and sixty players. And at the same time in florida tony chauhan and scott frost for a little one pocket challenge match between a couple of guys who are fairly well known for their one pocket game so again our interview. This week is roy. Pass store roy again. Won the twenty. Twenty jerry bryce ath- instructor of the year award. That's pretty sporty. When you can have an instructor of the year award named after you. I'll i'll date myself here and ask if that's kinda like the john larroquette best supporting actor in a comedy series award and yes. If you've got that you've also dated yourself. So i talked to roy about the brake run program that we had discussed two years ago and then he also has a new program that he just kicked off this year that he wanted to talk about. It's kind of a long interview and you know if your the type of listener whose jonesing for oh man you know. I played down and i got the guy to finally raise the two thousand iraq and then i beat him. That's not this kind of interview. If you're interv- interested in the future of pool for juniors and for instruction then this is your kind of interview so again without further ado. I give you roy. Pastor very proud to be joined by the twenty twenty jerry bryce south billiard instructor of year roy. Pass store roy. How are things very well mike. Thanks appreciate having me on your shirt. So what was the call like when you found out that you are the instructor of the year while i was i was a little bit surprised when because in the past it's been a Voting process so these structures would be nominated. I was nominated last year as well. And then there would be a Ah ballot in effect sent out to the membership and people would vote. This year was election by committee. So Bob jewett led. the led the committee this year. And i'm not sure how many people were on the committee or even who was on it but I had not been aware that they had made the transition from the ballot to to the committee selection. Sorry it took me off guard even with the timing. But i was very happy to receive it well from looking over your bio and and we talked a couple years ago about one of the programs that you are putting together but you're involved in so much more than just that Junior program we had talked about Looking over the list of things that you've done. I mean you've been doing this for twenty plus years. It's been a lot of fun. It's been really a labor of a passion for me. I love doing it. I love working with the kids. I started playing. When i was very young about nine years old. But i had no one. My parents parents didn't know how to play my. I had no friends with teach me. And i didn't really have an opportunity to receive instruction And i thought that would be a good thing to give back to the industry. I have a funny story with the involving. Willie mosconi eleven years old. I had already gotten the buck and lost. Coney was my was my hero. And i'm sitting here by my office looking at. I have a framed picture of willie us. Coney on the wall was assigned eight ball. And i'll tell you why. I keep that but my dad when i was about eleven years old. We didn't grow up in new york and we didn't have much money so my dad but mosconi was doing an exhibition match the golden cue billiards hall and queens boulevard and in queens so we took the bus and You know it was fifty cents. Whatever it was for the bus and we went down. And i was. I want my best outfit. that's closed. I was so happy to see lilly and we got to see the match. After the match was over will he was selling a book which i have a desperate little red book that he was selling time and my dad asked him if he could take a picture with me standing next to him and really asked if we would his book and And my dad didn't have the money sees. He died camp the book. So we'll he said well i'll tell you what i'll do said i'll let you take picks tim standing next to me but i won't look at him not buying my book and i still have that picture today. I stood next to him while he was giving an interview. And my dad took the picture but he wouldn't look at me for the picture because we didn't have to buy the book from so i keep a picture. Willie my office To remind me to jerk to people because because the fifty one is over fifty years. I've been covering that story And you know. I was devastated at the time i was telling that story and it could have been a much different story that i could've told for the last fifty could have been telling much different story so i guess in my mind what i'd like to do with fifty years from now i'd like to be when when they're telling stories about me. I liked it to be not to be a story that i was jerk. So so so They've been part of my motivation. All these last twenty years was soon as you started talking about an instructional book from william on my thoughts. Were that little red book. How many of us have that little red book. Well i have it now. I was at an auction. And i purchased the several hundred dollars. I purchased Autograph ball and an a framed picture. I keep it and people think that. I keep it because at of admiration and i really keep it just to remind myself a little humbling to remind myself every day that it doesn't cost anything To to to to show some kindness and some empathy once in a while so so for me it was worth the the price in purchasing the picture. Now when i when. I was looking over the information about what you would accomplished in some of the things that you go buy something that really jumped out at me was a statement that you made and i'll read it for the listeners. Who aren't familiar with it. And it goes as there is one goal held by all successful instructors and coaches and that is to create a learning environment that provides maximum opportunity for each of our students to reach their full potential. This should not be measured in terms of trophies or accolades but rather the acquisition of discipline work ethic teamwork confidence and integrity. Accolades and success will follow each student. Accordingly that's That's pretty deep. I appreciate i think in my mind. It's pretty straightforward. And it's pretty simple. I i mean. I didn't teaching i. I teach adults to. But i. But i really. I focused instruction and coaching with the kids. And i've never charged I charge adults. But i've never charged junior play for instruction in the twenty years i've been doing this and i've i've instructed anybody that walks through the door so i have my my style. I'm doing a lot of online instruction now but primarily past twenty years. I show up at a local hall the same time every week I opened it up. The the owner gave me the keys many years ago and whoever walks through the door train that's it. I have an hour of instruction followed by Some league play or supervised Supervised play or tournament. But mostly mostly i put the kids in the league and team and the kids the the instruction portions always been But if they show up for it. I have the i have them work. But opening it up to everybody no tryouts for what i do with the kids Everybody that walks through the door gets trained. So i've had kids with with physical challenges. Are that kids with with autism. Come in and the family brings some in. I've had kids with All kinds of emotional physical challenges. And then i have kids who are athletic. Who who who are are successful in other sports when they come inside this wide gap now have to measure success differently I've had i had one junior player that had a number of challenges. And i took him to the junior nationals Two years before he age that in my program and i still keep in touch with him. He's doing great but at the last two years. I took him to the two years. I took him to the junior nationals. I think he won one rack. He didn't win a match. He want iraq and when he won that rack everybody stood up and applauded including his opponent understand ovation and for me that was just as satisfying just as much success as when my other kids have won national championship titles so when i talk about having the kids fulfill their potential that varies for each individual but everybody i have not that one student that was not able to to achieve something To improve in some way Using using pool and billiards as a as a vehicle. Because that's really what it is it's vehicle To learn these skills for personal growth. The the winning championship isn't isn't the end game. What really jumps out of me. There is it's so easy to major success based on what you've won and and you have certainly lead your your students to a lot of success that way too. I mean you. You have have trained kids who have gone on in one junior national events a whole bunch of yes but ice train those kids every week right alongside the kids. He show up for the first day or the kids who will never win a championship But just trying to improve their their their developing friendships. They're developing disciplined developing. Work ethic developing. Lots of lots of things and there. They are successful as well. And and i take about fifteen kids a year on average to the junior nationals. And most and i have a bunch of the successful but i know some of my know are not going to be in the final four but it is a big deal for them to come to the junior nationals. Big deal for them to wear a shirt and be on the national stage It is It is an accomplishment. And you know it's it's easy to miss that if all you're focusing in the trophies too trophies are actually pretty easy. They show up if you just if you're just working on the process if you just working on the development of the the skills what the kids need to be successful trophy so come and on the quote that you read You about the accolades coming to the students. Accordingly variables in that. You know we have Some kids have a lot of natural talent. Some kids are put in the time. They've they've You know they have different skill sets. It doesn't and they will get the trophies but to have the other kids even be part of the team that we take down there is. is very satisfying to everybody. It's i can't tell you. Sometimes i feel like i get parents all the time me the passes grape. You charge any money for this. I said you cannot imagine how how much i do. Get out of this As the person i get. I get so much out of this i i feel i feel grateful all the time that i have an opportunity to teach these kids and and it can't always be about money. Every year i try to raise. I tried to weighs about five to seven thousand dollars a year in fundraisers to help travel to some of these kids don't have the resources to make the trip and i don't wanna make Be about money. So i've kids joined my program. I tried to make it realistic. That if they were caught they show up. They work hard. They they focus They make the effort that i'll be able to give them an avenue to travel to either run playing the states state championships local tournaments and also to have a means of path to go to the junior nationals. And how long have you been taking students to the junior nationals prophet. Probably longer than anybody. Probably about about fifteen years. Maybe i started that. Probably an i and i'm losing track with baby somewhere. Two thousand three two thousand four and it's been it's been a process so i mean i've learned a lot about how to teach and how to instruct and in the last in the last six years or the last not this year but because of covert but for the last six years that Went to the. We went to the national's i've had at least two and up to three or four of my students chosen from junior nationals. To be on the american team to represent The united states in the world's so. I've had an opportunity to travel to china into saying hi Russia into moscow. A couple of times with the kids last year we went cyprus. It's a it's an incredible experience for the kids and it's been pretty pretty cool for me to add a lot a lot of fun. I've gone a couple of years is a assistant coach to the american team. I've got to see some of these kids grow up You know. And because i've been doing it so long i've had a lot of my junior age of the program and many of them still keep in touch and the you know it's it's really terrific to see when you talk about the junior world program it makes me think of atlantic challenge cup Which dudakovic's was canceled for this year. It it sounds li- iq that event may be cancelled for good And america did not have the most success. You know it probably not the success that was hoped for in that event How do you compare the junior talent. If for in america to the junior talent. Let's say in europe. I think. I think we have lots of talent in the united states and was certainly in the last few years there. There are more on more opportunities all the time for junior players that difference between european countries and the united states is that most of the european team come from states where there are state. Funded junior programs The was talking to one of the coaches i. I set up a couple of facebook pages. The kids to keep in touch during covert and One of them is international. And i've i've was speaking for one of the coaches in slovenia last week. And he mentioned to me that they have fifteen hundred selena's lot smaller united states in that country alone the fifteen hundred school programs where they have pool tables in the schools and and trained coaches And they have all the resources. The same thing is true in poland and and in russia. Russia has a phenomenal program Few years back about four years ago we were in the world in shanghai and the world tournament was held in in a chinese middle school. It was a middle school in this middle. School had a large room with sixteen nine foot. Tables eight twelve foot regulation snooker tables full-time coach q lockers around and this is a big part of the the school program in the country and never mind the program that they have in beijing where they have a sports school where the kids go live there and it's pretty intense but we don't have state we don't have those kinds of resources apply so what we have to do as a country is figure out a way to develop a national standard We don't we don't we haven't really had that. I think there's too. Many there are a lot of regional programs. There's a lot of individual pockets of people. Coaching here and there There are a bunch of people who don't really know how to teach coach that start programs and you know nothing really comes of it because they don't have the training they don't have the know how or the resources to do it properly so well we need to do is we need to have a a more broad program that we did have something like that in the nineteen fifties and nineteen sixties. The boys clubs of american out. And i know that now the boys and girls clubs but if you look at some of the old bbc books From that time period late fifties early sixties. You'll see that. An and i know the program extended beyond that. But if you look at the. Bca rule books on the back of the rubik's have they'll have all of the Have all of the lists of the championships for that year. They'll have you know luther lassiter. They'll have us going. Though the all of the great players and all the championships they want they will also have the national championships at boys clubs because they were holding local regional statewide and national championships through the boys clubs. Today if you go into almost any boys and girls club you'll find an old pool table. There's still there the generally beat up You know they're in terrible condition clauses ripped but there's still there people have just forgotten why they're so You know i've always. I've always be putting putting programs in the schools like europe like they do in europe where they have statewide programs. It's not really feasible. United states because every little town every city every all the school boards. And and everybody's got different budgetary concerns. They have. There's not really the infrastructure. But i've always maintained that if we could get one of our national organizations to take the lead It would be doable to go in to the boys and girls clubs and start a national program and now even more so. Because i've gone gone into a bunch of them in new england and i know that there are other people out in Tarmacking out in in Chicago area has done a lot with the boys and girls clubs so that they every boys and girls club now also has a computer room so you could take what i'm doing for instance on online instruction i'm teaching programs. I'm supporting programs now. Just not just students and you could access this infrastructure We might have. We might have a chance to To have our own version of a national program for now. I think what we're doing with. The bbc is doing with the break and run program is. That's how best for the moment of creating some sort of national standard where we're able to to provide curriculum training Support not just the kids but to junior programs online on an online basis. But i think we have the potential But it's very hard to get that kind of of Leadership to go. After what i think we really need. And can you elaborate a little bit on the on the break and run program. How exactly it works. Okay the break and run program is a program that the bbc now you have to. I have to take a moment and And i and i have to mention by name. Chain tyree and rob johnson from the bbc because the break and run program came about a little over two years ago. So because they reached out to the Pba the professionally instructors association and they said look. We want to do something for the industry we want. What what programs can we. What programs can we develop. That will will help. The sport will help the industry. Not just what you can get out of it. We what can we do for the industry and And i thought that that in of itself in a time when a lot of players and a lot of lot of industry players are are looking for some sort of weight some sort of edge. I thought that was a very That was a good starting point for the kind of things we need to do. So the we started to break and run program and I had i had come up with the initial template for it so they put me in charge. Because i i said something and It's really it's an online training program focused on On teaching and coaching separate those two things teaching and coaching junior players and the our initial mandate was to offer free instruction and coaching the junior players. Who did not have the resources or access to To instruction throughout the united states and kim about the idea was because i had gone so many times to the junior nationals and they've gone to the world and i cannot tell you how many times family somebody would come up to me and say you know. I'm the pastor we We wished we live near you. Because we don't have anybody like you. We don't have you know. We're going to joe down at the local pub and he's showing my son a few things but we don't have a real instructor access to real instructor or they just don't have the money to pay for it. So that was that was the impetus really to get this thing started. So it's kind of it's kind of grown since our initial mandate my initial problem Because i i started using curriculum. The curriculum that we're using basically is what i've developed over. The last twenty is for my two new programs in new england. I have three brick and mortar training programs to in massachusetts and one in new hampshire. So it's really the curriculum. Because that's what i had and Initially i thought that There would be a an outpouring of support. From lots of instructs. I i i had trouble with that. Initially some of the older instructors some had difficulty with The technology. Because i'm using. I'm using the internet. I'm using facebook. I'm using 'cause the kids will have facebook. I'm using zoom amusing. You know google meetings some using anything that we could reach the kids And some of them are uncomfortable with that. Some of them were uncomfortable with the fact that i insisted and the pca embraced The fact that it would be free that this would be a service to our industry The ppi instructors in my opinion are the professional there. The professional instructors and coaches for our country many of many of our past tournaments and events. We relied on celebrity now celebrities. Not a bit thing. We have some celebrity players that are also accredited instructors and taliban instructs but they don't always match up the and some of our instructors are former pros as well but really that part of it we have to understand that the professional instruction and professional coaching. That's what the pba is is about so to be in this program. You have to volunteer and you have to be an credited credited instruct somebody in this problem the very roundabout way of saying it and this problem was i didn't have enough instructors so i didn't we weren't able to promote the program as much as I would have wanted to because it would. Just be me until we got the program. Instructors built up slowly in the last two years we've been able to be able to access a lot of the younger instructors so we have a lot of Energetic instruct. A lot of instructors who and some who've been not all been around for a while that have come around to the idea and we have a lot of younger instructors who are very familiar with the technology you know an online school in online teaching program. It's not a big deal to these because this is something that they're familiar with. It's certainly something very familiar to our kids especially especially nowadays and what we do is we have Sorry created a databank and And i have a lot of demonstrations shots that are that are filmed using other kids now. Fortunately i had access from my three junior programs so And then what we do. Is we use a combination of of assume of interaction with the student and their family. We use combination of exchanging of of videos There's a lot of coaching involved. So the students will actually livestream some of their some of their matches. If they're playing the tournament. We use a lot of facebook pages. So for instance. If you were to send your child to bring your child over to the program. I would ask for three to four minute. Video of the child's normal practice routine and i use that to assess skill level and assigned instructor. Could be myself could be one of the other instructors. If i assigned instructor i'll try to also assign to maybe one or two or three newer instructors shadow The lead instructor on that case so those instructors are learning the curriculum and learning the methodology abs- as with teaching the students. Then what we'll do is we take that student step by. Step everything from how to stand how to hold the bridge. Had where to your fingers where to put your everything to To just did a class on Nine wall breaking had to read the rack and had a consistently get in the win ball and a lot of these things that you can use it find on the internet. But it's really geared towards the kids and it's geared towards each kid so we act as not just instructive but coach. So they'll i'll get you know. I'll be home watching tv and i'll get a message to email saying roy. My son or my daughter is having problems with this. What do you think and You know then they'll work with the parent and try to analyze. What's going on and find the solution. So it's it's extraordinarily. It's i have to tell you that. It's more effective than i. Than i thought it could have been the youngest student. We have in the program. Right now is six years old was doing great. And then we have Eight nine ten year olds You know thirteen fifteen up to i think seventeen or eighteen is the oldest. We have right now in the group besides that it's actually developed even a little bit further than that so now I was contacted originally so now. We have you know we have a lot of good foundation of instructors We have a. We have a growing student population We have an and now. We've branched out to assist the development and the growth of other junior programs. So i've been contacted by june other junior programs in the united states. I'd also working with the junior program in poland That an instructor middle school instructor had contacted me and You know asked me for some assistance. And so i've been providing them curriculum and assistance support With his school program. i just started working now with with i'm actually in the process of training and accrediting an instructor in cape town. South africa does a gentleman in africa. Right now who started a school program with one hundred and forty schools and twenty five hundred students and they came to me. And i'm going to be helping them put. We'll put together a curriculum for those kids and the methodologies the right now he's he's taking my online course For my online school and he will be able to credit him an accredited instructor and he'll be teaching the same and in that population. They'll be using the same materials to same curriculum. Same teaching methods that i'm using here that my other the other instructors using in poland that that I have my three physical problems grams. In new england they're using and then the other locations and in the united states using so right now. This is what i said previously about right now at this i in my mind our best bet to establish a national standard. That's why because now we have the ability to reach trained instructors and reach a very broad populace that leads into the american online pool. School which is something you created this year right so this is something that i've wanted to do several years but i just didn't have the time so i was in vegas in march 'cause i i own a i own a very large. Usa pooley on the watch us usa pool league in the united states and I was in vegas with my poll players that the a usa pl national that when the country shut down all of my lead shutdown everything shut down to state. Where and i was in vegas and that night. I started working on the school because i knew i was going to have some time so i took i took advantage of it. Took me a little time and and that the school is still a working very much a work in progress. i'm. I've gotten some very good People to join me. Mike to shane will be joining me as an instructor. I have a Instructor in australia that i've that took this program and i was able to certifies as an american instructor And we're talking about trying to put together a class or costs on snooker in our school And i've been able to credit Lots of people but anyway the one of the first question that i developed in the American online poll school. It was the pba accreditation costs. And i had a couple of. I had a couple of Reasons to make that my first cost. I is that is a great way for me to recruit other instructors for my break for the run program so these instructors. He's a newer instructors. That i've act the to now. I'm able to train Familiar with the curriculum that that we're using They pass meet all the requirements of the pba for accreditation and then And then we could do it very reasonably at a very reasonable price. Because they don't have to fly out somewhere for three days and take class so they can for a fraction of the cost they could be trained become accredited as a pba instructor and then the majority of them are many of them. Have because you know in the last day. I say here's your certificate history paperwork and by the way how would you like to see further training and to break and run program Because what i'll do is. I'll put them in as shadow instructor with another lead instructor in the break and run program. So they're thrilled with because they get additional training over and beyond minimum requirements for accreditation They to learn a whole different teaching methodology. That's online And they get back to the industry right off the bat so it's a win win situation so that's one of the reasons that i have been A growing stable of of instructors for the brain run program many of them. I've been able to accredit train credit in this online pool school. So it's been it's it's and there's no geographic limitations. So for instance. We have one find new. Instructors is is the instructor from from australia. He's a terrific guy. he's experienced upper coach and and he's in the proper so we got to. We get a lot of a lot of exchange materials. Lot of ideas. The gentleman from South capetown. He's about halfway through the cost. Now that is working with the twenty five hundred students in south africa. He's an experienced player in south africa. But he is experienced player on the professional level south africa. But it didn't really have structure training restructure for teaching. So this is this is perfect for what he's going to be able to present his students and we have other Similar situations across the united states. So i think it's a it's developed originally my my notion my vision of of this for the bca. The bbc a asked you know what can we do for the so the industry and and the it was my idea to offer free instruction and coaching. But my i envisioned that all the instructors would want to do it and you know they would. They would set up online coaching or teaching relationship with some students. And that would be a good thing. But it's It didn't go exactly the way. I thought but i think it's developed into something much larger and they much better than i thought would be if a parent is looking for information on how to get their their kids involved in the breaking run program. Where can they go to get more information they go to. Dc a website. It's bca Dash pool dot com and when they go to the in the bar the blue bar on top of the page They can click on learn pool after. Click on learn pooled. And they'll find another tab that says junior instruction and that'll take them to the pba vca And the program for the break and run program that will tell them how to sign up and And how to get involved and if you're one of the got millions of people who are interested in helping as an adult and trying to further the the sport for the juniors how would you get involved or where would you find information on the american online pool school program. That's a Www american pool. School dot com roy. It sounds like you've accomplished quite a bit Again congratulations on the award. That also sounds very very well deserved and looking forward to talking again here in the future about what you've built next check in was being about six months we'll talk again. All right sounds good okay. That was roy. Roy strikes me as another one of those guys. There are so many of them in the pool world that they just are constantly doing things. they're constantly creating things and you know it's it's guys like that. That have helped to make this game. I'm going to say what it is. But i say that as a compliment. Not my usual. Oh the game is struggling in the game would be struggling a whole lot more if it weren't for the guys in the industry like roy and there's a number of others and and i don't need to name names of all of them. We all know who these guys are. Okay so again. That was our episode this week. Next week we will definitely have rhianna talking about his is big junior coming up and who knows what else will have with with everything. That's going down this weekend so again. Thanks for listening to the show. I appreciate you taking the time out of your day and dave. We are always thinking about you.

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The Terminator Takes Us to College

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The Terminator Takes Us to College

"Welcome back to American billiard radio. Today is Thursday may fourteenth and well while most of the world is stuck under quarantine. Right now quarantined starting to lift here in Arizona. Pool rooms are opening up. They're not. They're not allowing packed houses. But we're starting to slowly get back to normal. I have not just been sitting around eating bon-bons day I've been working on a few different projects and I also found a little movie for people to watch while they're stuck at home waiting out the end of this pandemic personally. I've been working on well. Quick Synopsis I've been working with Jerry breath to help get his video out there. He had asked me to set up a way for people to rent or buy his video online so once I got that set up I figured well I have the the resources now to put these videos up. So I've worked with some other people Diana hoppy Randy Scott Liquor. Scott Lee j effort. What you can do is you can go to pool on demand dot net and you will find videos up there from those people also. Robin Dodson. Sorry Robin Robin was a recent addition to the site and I do have some more video. It'll be going up soon. Basically it's a on demand site where you can rent or buy video. Content depending on how the provider of that content wants to do it whether they want to allow you to buy it or just rented pool onto man's dot net. It's something that isn't the only thing I've been working on. I've been working on a version. Five of easy billiards. It's a slow process. I'm learning as I go but I'm getting there and hopefully we'll have something new to look at here a very soon this week. I say week. That's kind of a rough usage this episode. I have an interview with nils fine. We talked to a couple of years ago when he won the World Pool Masters. But he's also not just sitting around while this is going on. He has created a an instructional course that is based on the mental side of the game. It looks very extensive and he asked me if I would help him Get the word out about it so of course. I sat down with Niels. I'll let him explain of this project and how it came about and what it's all about so I give you know S- fine very proud now to be joined by. This is quite a resume. Thirteen time Mosconi Cup player. How many times did you did you win the Mosconi Cup? Good Question Mike. We all this. I hardly ever watch back any of the matches because I can be something pretty self critical when wash games or like I would. I would say like a patient so I hardly watch him back so I really have. No clue how many times it's gotTa be six seven times but if you ask. Darren he knows pretty much every statistic in the book so okay well in aside from that World Nine Ball champion world straight pool champion. Nils Fine Nils. How how's quarantine treating you Mike? It's been pretty good so far. I mean in Denmark. Numbers are really really good. And that's because then mark was one of the first European countries to really have strict of policy. I would say they were very fast in Europe to do the lockdown and therefore things didn't spread out as quickly as you see in other countries so things are also starting to open up pretty fast again. My kids have been school for three weeks already which was a pretty big step for us because of course the fear nowadays is a country starts up things again. They're afraid of ways number two so we were like okay bye. Would we send our kids back to school and be the Guinea Pigs and then Will we had some pretty big discussions without at home. Like what are we gonNa do and we said we wait now? It's not gonNA change like in a month. It's going to be the same thing so We took a chance to school at some really strict policies on how they were going to do it. They were splitting kits open to two rooms. They were outside a lot They had separate playing areas show a lot of positive signals that they had things under control and things have been going very well and we've been able to be outside with. Of course we were very lucky that it happened in springtime like for the corona. I mean. Of course it's terrible thing but if you dating consideration if it would be in winter than a lot of people would get even more depressed now. At least a lot of people went the chance to go outside Like into the garden or stuff like that. So we've been outside a lot I've been working out a lot. A lot of cycling. You know just Staying active not keeping too much lockdown sort of sore speak and you have access to a table right. Yeah I have access to table so if the if I wanna hit balls I can work to be honest since I came back from Vegas. I haven't hit on ball yet Some people might be extremely jealous and think that I'm crazy but it was just a Ronald how things were going. I was show well prepared for my Vegas trip and OBI events that we're GONNA lead up towards Vegas all the events after that that it took a little bit of the air out of me to be honest. I had the like two major advance than European Championships World Pool Masters and now the corn team and then it was like I felt a little bit. Okay what's the use you know? I just took Took a timeout And I put all my energy into making finishing the course so I've been working extremely hard. The last week's on I'll finish the course and I'm extremely excited that That that's going to launch in light. Would we have thirty seven our search well? And we're taping this on Tuesday. It won't actually BE RELEASED UNTIL THURSDAY. So it'll be released by the time people here this right right before we get into the course which is the main reason that we're talking today. You Talk About Vegas. It was really looking like it was going to be a great twenty twenty four. You know not just you but for the game you know the whole pro game and the bottom just of fell out of it. You were one of the first players to to give up on Vegas. I mean. That's kind of harsh way of putting it but you were one of the first players to head home when the whole thing hit weren't you yes. That's the only correct To be honest we had a European tour event in Italy. Like two weeks before Vegas and I remem Ruby there on the day that the first the first corona case was was found We were leaving at that day from Venice and to be honest I was. I was pretty naive. It was like either one case. They're what's the big deal and I wasn't really following news old bet much We were just really preparing on all these big tournaments that were coming up. Then we get Vegas and we start finding out more and more numbers for like hundreds of people are getting a infected with the virus before starting like pass away from this left and right like a lot of really stressful signals. And I think in forty eight to seventy two hours. I was starting to really follow the news. And it was just shocking. How fast new of bizarre stories were coming out. I think every thirty minutes was it was like numbers going off a panic in distress signals from Italy like people. Please stay home and you're starting to realize like We're here with five thousand. Bu Players One venue like what is happening here and the event just got underway and I played my first match against Mickey Krause from them. Marks are could've played the match here around the corner I went to bed that night at one o'clock in the morning my hotel phone was reading and I I being realized what was going on because I was still jet-lagged and after a while picked up the phone with my dad and he doesn't call for like no reason in the middle of the night and the major some of the major decisions that I have taken in my life were with consultancy of him like selling my house in Holland's Making the decision to drop out of school when I was twenty like night school in trying to pursue a professional career like major decisions in east calling me up and he said. Did you hear about trump statement? That is That there's going to be locked from Saturday and I said never heard about it. My first reaction was actually Can We talk about this tomorrow? I WanNa talk to you now. So the thing was that my airline. Sas put a statement on their website that USA wasn't going to allow him flights coming into the USA. Sas was also not gonNA fly out of the USA from that Saturday now Thursday. So I'm thinking man this is really getting out of hand. I might get stuck here so I wake up my roommate. E for Cyrus we have a meeting with our Coach McDermott. Who's there. You Go from Holland from federation so we have like this emergency meeting. Were calling back to Holland to talk with somebody else from the federation and bottom line. There was just so little information at that time that it came down to a point. Like you have to kind of decide for yourself. What what you WANNA do? You might get stuck here You know it's it's like really weird situation and I thought after like two hours of debating I said. Okay I have a family. I have two kids. I might get stuck here for three months. You never know so i. I said I'm going home is not Lucan. Good it's not feeling good We're here with five thousand players. This things get really serious. I'm going on so I was the first to leave and the day I got back home. There was a statement from the Prime Minister in Denmark. Saying that all people that in Denmark hectic comeback hub in English. They were summoned the return to their own country right. Yeah so it was. It was it was the right decision And then a few days later they canceled the World Dumbo. You're able to avoid the fourteen day. Quarantine that a lot of people had to deal with around that time. Well I took it myself because I realized like I did all this traveling to come back from Vegas to home. I did three airplanes a airports. I'm watching everything less than ride like airport Seats or airplane seats. You name it. So I'm thinking okay I might have something you know so I just took it upon myself like to knock the go shopping to the supermarket. I state inside pretty much with the family and see how things were going to turn out and luckily nothing happened. And you're a healthy yet. Your shows met Edwards and the he returned home any found out he was infected. So it's just it's a very random situation is matt the only pro player that we know of the Was diagnosed I believe so. I know that Christina coach from Russia she got back from the euro to work. And I'm not a hundred percent. Sure I don't think she was infected but she had to stay in quarantine hospital there. Yeah that was pretty pretty rough situation for her. She had to stay there and Didn't look too too cozy so think she had a pretty rough time there that hospital but off the top of my head. I think my own one that we've heard of has gotten infected and recovered and kind of changing subjects here for a second. You mentioned that when you were faced with the decision of coming home you talked to the Dutch coach. That was there is a common thing he would do. Most of the European countries have a coach that would go with the players to something like that. I'm not a lot of countries I think you've seen it in the past like Left for Russia. He's been there a lot of times Yohan when he was still under COMTREX for Russia was with that group. A lot of times. You See Martin or marching from Poland's each traveled with those boys a lot and because In Hall of River Good Program and where affiliated with the Olympic Committee. It is a kind of a rule that a travel companion slash coach has to go along with the mentor. And so the last few years that has been now you go from Ford. The thaw the boy you know. He's there to help us out and Workout with US burt. The atmosphere tries to do what he can a positive way. You know I think of things from the American point of view and I can think of an incident a few years ago when Earl had flown off to a an international events and he had no idea what what the ride situation was supposed to be from the airport to the venue and ended up spending a fortune on a taxi. Cab You guys don't have to worry about that sort of thing do you. Well I think times have changed a little bit. No now with For example the UBER APP You know there's there's more digital tools now to protect yourself. Then I think in those days I've heard also those interviews with earl really entertaining where I think he was also Russia and he ended up in the middle of nowhere. Really really entertaining wild west stories No we don't. We don't really have to be worried about that as march anymore. I think twenty years ago. It was still rougher than now but now with all the technology. It's it's pretty much a no brainer to get the to your hotel all right well if there's any positive specifically for you during this time it's how much time you've been home and how much time you've been able to spend on this project. Tell everybody about this project. Yeah you're right that's the slash Only positive thing about the the corona for me When the year started in January I had a vacation plan to Egypt with my Three ladies are get the girls and At that time I was fantasizing about making course and of course when you're traveling competing preparing. You don't really sit down and go through all the things you you really WanNa put down a paper. I'd so when that fake ation started. I remember I was on the airplane and I had some time in order to prepare for anything and the thing. Just pour out of me. I had been paper and I wrote the entire outline of the whole course which is three thirty three videos and slides makes up and I wrote it down a few hours the thing just. I was just so ready for doing this. My system that it just bored out of me I had. It's actually it's split up into four segments. The first segment is the foundation so our broke down as many things as I could think of about the Mental Foundation for player. Ben CHECK CHAPTER NUMBER. Two is pre match preparation so all the things you can work on to get ready for your matches than chapter. Three is a mental matchplay. So that's all the potential traps and tilt situations in a match. How you can deal with those barry exciting stuff and then the last one is post-match feedback so you've played your matches. How do you analyze your matches? And don't sit in your in your room ruminating for hours on end but put a system in place where you could break down the steps that happened learned from them in maybe ten fifteen minutes and you can go on with your date. All these things just came out of me and of course at to find tuna lot but it was so exciting that like within a half pretty much of traveling and being there and writing I had like a whole roadmap with like. I'm really GonNa do this now. Me and of course then. There was no corona but I already had the blueprint so now. I'm trying to figure out the software. Our I can do this. I'm trying to figure out how to start videotaping. The slides the technical side. But it's still cost me a lot of time which I didn't have and then I came home and I really said okay. I'm going to start hammering this project. I'm going to do with some starting to chip away a few hours a year per day and building up when the kids went back to school I reached started to extend the time put into it restarted. Finalizing the project and Then I could set a date of launch and that's GONNA be This Thursday so it's extremely exciting. It's been five months and it's probably it's probably the coolest thing I've made since Like a road since the creation of my two daughters. Now this is. This is entirely focused on the mental side of the game. There's nothing about your stance or your stroke or aiming or anything like that What what level of play is expected of someone? Who's going to start this course? Well basically it's from it's for beginners all the way up to professionals But it's it's named Mental Edge for competitive players. And I've named it that way because it's the course of course benefits you more if you're competing because if you're competing you're testing yourself and then you can more easily come into this loop of preparing testing analyzing feedback and going back to preparing for the next thing and if you're just playing by yourself at home you're never gonNA really a coming to this mental challenge or this these these You're never gonNA get tested mentally source speak so it helps to be competitive player. That could be playing meeks once a week it could be small. I'm gambling local club or at home. It could be playing major tournaments. Excuse me leg professional traveling players. It's for that loves to compete. So it's very very brought and there's I mean there's amazing confident in there for everybody for professionals for for the biggest leap players until players that have just started like six months and I noticed from looking over your Some information that you had sent me ahead of time. There's also a thirty minutes skype session. What is that all about? Well I put that in because there's content of course in there that people have never seen and Like a set of courses thirty three videos and slides long which is Very very complete and of course at the end of the bright would screw take. You've a few weeks a few months depending on how fast you WANNA do it. You're gone off course. Reflect all course upon yourself and you're going to have some questions obviously like how can I do this I'm stuck on this. How can I trade that? And that's why put the thirty minutes skype in there to help the player that both course so we can go over his personal situation and steer him in the right direction mentally and give him a better of perspective of what he can do what he can work on. So it's a bonus of Of steering into the right direction in the way that you've got a broken down into into different sections where there's prematch and there's You know during the match and there's post-match this doesn't strike me as the kind of thing where someone's just going to purchase it. It looks like it's what about two hours long. I think about two and a half to three hours of videos and slides but for someone to to effectively take advantage of everything that's there it's not the kind of thing they just sit down on a Friday afternoon while they're in quarantine and spend three hours watching it and think that they're games going to go up two or three balls. This is a this is more of a you know you you read or you watch this part of the video and then you you take that with you to the match and then you have stuff that you concentrate on there and then you you summarize it all afterwards. So it's not your typical well for a number of reasons instructional content. Now it's really a course and I wouldn't recommend to go over it in like one session. I think the the biggest adventure for the scores is to take a little piece at a time and build up. This bake big strong foundation for your mental game. That's why I started with the foundation. No things like creating mental space. Picking up perhaps meditation or basic strategies to create more mental. Space you so you can focus better relaxed better all these little steps you can put together in your foundation to build a stronger house. Dan. You go take debt to your matches and you start finding out where you can find to what you can improve on what areas. You're struggling with coming up with inject logics. It's extremely powerful stuff is. This is like from twenty years over twenty years of professional expert personal experience and the I was just ready to put it out. There have been taking classes for years reading books. And it's really exciting to Cheryl this stuff with With other players and like you say. I would recommend to like just blast through it. And then think you're going to be better you have to take. It may be one two three lessons at a time and start working with this stuff. Find out what works for you. Maybe you WanNa do visualization or. Maybe you want to do meditation. Start working on that for a few days or few weeks and start seeing results. You gamma cramp everything together at once. It's too overwhelming. But at the same time you can also go through the course and bake out a few videos that you can. Hey that's me that's me. That's me while you're also working on the foundation so there's multiple ways you can do but knocked too fast cramp do it. Why do you think you were talking about having read a lot of stuff and and there's a ton of instructional stuff out there but there really is very little like this out there? Why do you think it's taken so long for for something like this to get done? Yeah that's that's the question. I asked myself in January when I started this any. I think I felt deeply that the time was right to come up with this force at this time because there is a lot of digital tools. There's a lot of information out there but it's mostly at the table and if you ask any player out there hey how much of. A percentage is the mental game. They're all GonNa say all yes. That'd be eighty percent ninety percent. And I it's just it's it baffles me that people say this which. I understand but they don't they don't train it. They don't train that side of the game so I'm thinking this has to be because people don't know where to start they don't have the tools They don't know how much to train. It's where to begin and then it becomes really gray area in like a little bit like I'd rather not go there. You know to me and I feel it takes somebody that's been through this and that's had the experience and went through all the steps and all these years that can show you a roadmap of something that actually works and then you feel more comfortable with taking this road and I just felt like Like now was my time if if if you would have asked me this fifteen years ago so now. I'm I'm ready for this. I'm in the middle of going year. They're they're Phelps forty three now. I've been a pro for almost twenty five years and I've I've seen a lot of played everybody on the planet in every event possible. I've had great success. Great failure so I've been through it all and I think that's what it takes for you as a as a upcoming play or as a new player. You need somebody. That's been through all of that to guide you on this adventure. That's why did it now just to clarify something real quick when we talked a couple of years ago after you and one World Pool Masters I know you had had concern at that time about some physical aspects of your game. That weren't where you wanted him to be now. This isn't any kind of a transition away from being a pro player into being an instructor is it's no no the the the elbow situation was of course very unfortunate and the wasn't that was re my fault. I had a mild to slightly severe tennis elbow. But I'm still playing pool. I got fifth at the euro and I said at that time eight. My break is hurting. When I'm shaking hands it's hurting. I'm going to see a physio. That's how it all started and that fatio made it worse within three days. He gave me exercises. That were so hard that within three days I wasn't able to hold my cue in my hand. I literally drop it on the floor and from that point on I was deep deep trouble. I couldn't brush my teeth. I couldn't eat with a fork or spoon anymore. I had extremely severe Dennis Elbow and from there on I went into this This process of trying to recover and of course the first six weeks to drop every event. Then I took the cortisol which allowed me to play for six weeks but that doesn't do anything in the end it just comes back And then I take then we full stop. That was of course the full recovery process which led me to Winning the World Pool Masters which was of course amazing but after that in the summer the the elbows fully recovered. And I hadn't. I didn't have a problem with the since Brad. With since so physically. I've been in top form on biking Thirty to fifty miles every other day. And doing exercises sodas no problem so it's not a transition out of physical harm so to speak now. It's more thing that you get a little bit older. Like I'm forty three now and you'd feel You've been on a certain roads for a very long time. And that rope gives you a lot of insights and a lot of information that you can share with other people if you if you just walk onto this road for year to. That's not going to be the case but if you do for twenty twenty five years You have a lot of war stories than love experience. So that's why the time was right. Well I mean from what I've seen from the curriculum. I I definitely think the time is right. As much as twenty twenty has been a letdown with everything that is coming up in the game and that has been postponed. But you know I really do. Think we've got some great Times ahead of us for the pro game and and you know like we've said this this kind of stuff isn't down there it. I'm excited about taking a look at it because I'm seeing just from the different sections of it things that immediately jumped out at me as problems. I have in my game and I'm just a ball banger. Yeah but that's great. I mean that's that's the cool thing about the curriculum you. The topics that are there can have an impact on your personal game right away like you think. Oh like that kind of tilt. I have that or like mistake. Bill or bad luck built or or. You're interested in meditating or you WanNa take a look at the oth match feedback loops and where the book list all that stuff. It's it's very very personal very quick. And that's the cool thing about it okay. And it's a combination of video and slides. You said it's a two and a half three hours long. Yeah approximately and in the free course that our mate That was six lectures and chew of them. Were video and I felt it would be a more interesting to ramp up the videos a little bit. So it's at least fifty percent video at fifty percents lights are for the main course and then on top of that. There's another workbook like in the free course. And then I've added the quake learn guides after every chapter. And then there's the thirty minutes skype session and then. I think also extremely Borgen is that I invested in making subtitles in three languages for all the videos slides and those will be in Spanish German Chinese so for people that are not sufficient with English. They have a really good opportunity to just take the course and read along while on talking in English and they can follow it in their native language. So that's a big big loss. Okay and it comes out again. We're recording this on Tuesday but it'll be released on Thursday so it's coming out today as far as people who are listening to this correct and people can get more information where the link will be out to the sales page on. All's all my social media platform so instagram facebook and There's links in all those posts loss of the mail campaign that I started. That was through the free course. Are Those people will get a really nice emails with information and all the links are also there and you can go directly to the Terminator College Dot Com. Oh okay all right well. It sounds exciting. I'm interested in seeing a everything. That's where I wish you all the luck in the world with it and hopefully you'll be able to get back to the states and get back to winning tournaments here. Pretty soon. I'm really looking forward to Mike. I'm glad that I colossus project is. It's very cool to do at of course I'm I want to get back to the game. Seems possible now and I hope I can start playing Durham. It's again it's all a matter now. Think of waiting for the vaccine and borders to open up airport's open and then the airlines have to give go at it. It and then we can start booking flights again plane tournaments so I think it will be another three to five six months maybe But we just have to be patient and just worked on our game and just enjoy the game. You know starting your own country and Oakland to start traveling by the end of the year. Sounds good I appreciate you taking some time and It it looks like a great project. Hopefully we'll get a chance to talk to you soon. About how people are are seeing it. Go thank you very much for your time on Mike. Appreciate all right. Talk to you soon. All right all right. That was the link is in the show notes. I hope everybody gets a chance to go out and and check out at least to the the free plan that he has and get all the information about the other plan. It looks very interesting. I think you know this isn't just. Hey I'm gonNA give this a cursory look and maybe I'll see something to to help game a little bit this. This is serious and he looks like you've really got to dig deep to to learn what he's putting out there but the link is in the show notes check it out. I appreciate the time. That Neal's gave me this was American billiard radio and Dave. We are thinking about you Dan.

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The DrillRoom App with Gabriel Lopez

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The DrillRoom App with Gabriel Lopez

"Welcome back to american billiard radio. Today is friday march twelfth and the episode this week. I had a chance to talk to gabriel lopez. Gabriel is with orange loops and orange. Loops is the company that created the drill room app for iphones and ipads. This is an. I focused app that allows you to shoot drills in have the phone or have your device. Keep track of those drills for you. There's a lot more to it. It's really a a very interesting app. So that will be my interview for this week before we get to that just to cover some of the things that happened in the last week or so. This is friday last. tuesday dimitrius. Nate carl boys and i were on a facebook live. Call for about an hour hour and a half we talked about the arenas gorst match this happening this week and we really talked way too much about the championship league pool event. That's coming up here in two weeks if you weren't if you weren't there to watch that live and if you haven't caught it yet you can go to facebook dot com q it up podcast and you can see that that episode there nick with the chaka's cheap podcast. A part of the qaeda network had an interesting conversation with rodney morris. This week and that episode is also on the facebook page or on the pod being page in other news last week. They when i say the last week google changed their little doodle. The top of the at the top of their main page and they sometimes do this where there's an animation celebrating. Something going on well. Surprisingly what they were celebrating was masako katsura old. Three cushion player really surprised that that a they dipped into the queue sports world to you find what they were going to focus on the reason i bring this up and i don't really know what the lesson to this is. I don't know what to take from this but it just seems to me that there's something to take from this when you have a website and results for different search items or different search terms. Display your website. Google keeps track of that for you. It's part of seo. And as far as e b is concerned. I never really focused on. Seo i just be built the site and and just work on that and over the years it's worked. Its way up on. Google search return pages but google keeps track of it for you and they tell you hey over the last week or over the last day. These are the terms that people searched for where one of your pages came back in that search so logically when people searched for masako katsura a page on the forums came back so i received information on that in a report. Okay so. I know you're here in. You're saying mike you really don't care about all this okay so where i think there's a there's information that that should be looked at here. Is i received a notification the next day from google saying. Hey you really need to go look at this particular search term. Masako katsura because the interest in it skyrocketed digging into the report. I saw that. Google showed masako katsura as a search term being searched for two point six million times that day again. I don't know what there is to take from that but it really feels like there's something to take from that i'll let you figure it out all try to figure it out to okay. I'm in other news from last weekend's caroline pow. jp newt tour caroline one again. Genie seaver one again on the florida tour. We don't have the report from that yet. But i expect we'll have it in the next couple of days. Anthony moglen no one an event there had beyond billiards. Beat raymond lenora and tony roma's and yoshiaki kawamura and haley. Marian won the q. City nine ball tour. Stop scotch double. Stop at jack's l'americain billiards in newport tennessee. Congratulations to all of those ladies. And anthony i the gorst for serena smash. They are playing this week as you're listening to this. Maybe you'll be listening to this in watching the match day one was yesterday now. They are at first break. Sports bar in sterling. Virginia yesterday was nine ball Fate or one that thirty two seventeen. I think most people expected him to win. I don't know that they expected him to win by thirteen racks. This one is streamed by roy's basement. It's being streamed live for free on facebook so you can go to facebook. Go to roy's basements page and you can check this out now. Like i say yesterday was nine ball. Today they're playing ten ball. They'll be playing eight ball tomorrow and then one pocket on sunday. So that's probably the biggest thing going on this weekend. In other news the billiard sports network is back in the news this week. They made an announcement that as part of their dinosaurs cup which will take place on may first and second. That's going to be a five thousand dollar added events and they've been announcing players that will be at the event. I saw the announcement of shane going to be there. Laurie john's going to be there so they made the announcement this week. That fatal gore's was to have a ten ball race to twenty exhibition match with shane. Shane van boming. That will be the friday before that event kicks off in news the week before this we received the news that turning stone was going to be cancelled turning stone. I say canceled. My says postponed if you postpone it until the next scheduled tournament than didn't cancel it so that was even more bad news however we had some good news. This time the ocean state nine ball championship is going to happen mike. Douglas sent out a notification that that was going to happen. On june fifth and sixth avenue cookers in providence rhode island. There was also pr from the bf this week. They are hoping to get their schedule going again. They're hoping to get things kicked off with their first big event in austria june seventeenth through the twentieth. We also got a note. That the barry berman memorial spring open nine ball events will take place april twenty fourth and twenty fifth at q. Masters in virginia beach now. Of course all of these events are on the calendar but these were announcements that we receive during the week and wanted to make sure that we gotta gotta shout out for them looking back at that berman memorial spring. Open nine ball arana with on. The wire is involved in promoting that and segued back into. What's going on this week raw. Hannah is having the second stop on his junior international nine ball championship. I mean it's kind of a tour. It's events in different pool rooms. So i consider that a tour. They are iraq's billiards in sanford florida. This weekend anybody wanna catch any of the action. There can go to facebook dot com slash on the wire promotions. We all know. What kind of a production. Ross gonna do. We know what's going to be top notch. We know that he's going to be featuring some great players they're q. Nine baltimore is back in action this weekend. Thousand dollar added at sonny's billiards in princeton west virginia. And don't forget march sixteenth through the twenty twenty-first is the mid west opened billiards championship. That's kind of a derby city style event. Short rack banks one pocket. Ten banks ring game ladies only event and attend bowl invitational. They're adding twelve thousand across the board. Big trucks will be. There will be pay per view coverage of it. That one sounds like it's going to be another one of those big midwest events with billion sky and shane and and a couple of the filipinos. I haven't seen the list of players. But i'm sure it's going to be typical of those marquee midwest events that big truck is normally involved in producing. So that brings you up to speed on everything from last week so you didn't even have to read as a billiards. I just gave it all to you so again the interview this week. Gabriel lopez's orange loops the drill room app for the iphone. Gabriel talks to me about where the idea came from and what his plans are for the future. Which i was the most excited about so without further ado i give you gabriel lopez. Very happy to be joined by gabriel lopez gabriel ceo and founder of orange loops. Orange loops is a company that has created the new iphone app called drill room. Gabriel how you doing today. I'm doing fine. Thank you for having. Can you explain to the listeners. What drill ruminants drill is basically mobile app for iphone or ipad that allows us players to attract specific drills. The app tracks the game. Play a specific selection of drills it. scores them and allows the users to track their progress over time. Basically so i sat down last night with the app. Running it on an iphone basically and you can correct me where where i might have done something wrong of basically set up a tripod. I believe it says five feet is about the ideal height. Yeah yeah if five feet is the recommended height six creed would work as well But yet you have to two plays the device in a stationary position by feet above the ground innocence The device has to see they're watching the whole table while you play. Can you say the triborough stand. That's the essence of the setup. Right so you set up the app pointing at your table. That was a a really simple process of you. Set up where the phone camera is is displaying your table you tell it what type of drill you wanna shoot there is. There's a small variety of drills right now. There's there's a shot making position play. yeah we created. Were shooting actually initially for just one drill Back then we got excited and other more than we thought that we should categorize on control show making positional in the future we would like to add also banking drills fans ranking as well But but yeah the da's fully user to able to face the civic drills that are aimed at improving specific capabilities in your play. And we've all we've all shot drills and there's there's probably fifty apps out there from fifty different professional players with a list of all these drills personally myself drills just bore me to death and i'm sure there's a number of other people who are like that but what's interesting about this app. Is you walk around back behind your your screen and you're looking at the screen and you choose. Okay i wanna shoot this District to make these two balls. It tells you where to put the ball on the table and it gives you dots on the table that corresponds to the diamond system. So you can. You can easily look at it and say okay. I'm i'm to diamonds out on the short rail diamonds out on long road. That's where my i object while those so it's pretty straightforward to tell where the ball's go you turn up the volume on your camera on your phone. You set up the drill and the voice comes up and says yep. That's the right spot. Oh cool so you shoot shot whether you succeed or not it comes back and says or or not good job and i got to hand it so you know it's nice that it doesn't just say the same thing over and over again it's not good. Shot try. Our selection of audience could could be improved. No doubt that we would really tried not to have the same audio on time. I actually have a couple of possible voices. We have a male voice and a female voice right now in the future. We would like to expand that selection. I mean we figured pretty soon that given that you have the device and i try some feet away from the you won't be able to be looking at the screen until time so having all your feedback was like an actual option to to let these are no where what state of the app on what is expected of the user at any point in time also. We need some mental reality to allow the user to see wearing the table. He's expected to place the bowls for drill a drill also up to a point warming to death. We initially were shooting. I would like to play like we would like to be able to support a play. The ghost for instance our what. We realized pretty early as well as the morals you have on table the more difficult it is to read. The whole scene computational so to speak So we started out with something simple also trying to understand if there's a market for an apple these they're actually uses users out there that will be using these or something like this wriggled are If you'd makes sense for anyone other than me and were you the one who originally came up with the idea for the app. Yeah avidan getting together with a bunch of friends to play pool once a week for the past three years now It's more of a cathartic slash therapy people But i'm also pretty competitive myself. And i wanted to be disguised my friends so that's cutting it pretty quickly. I want myself a pool table. I i used to play when i was a teenager. Biking highschool stan forty two now. So that you get to. Where am i now but that gut mining might competitive side going and got myself pool. Table cues gloves. And i started to try to learn and see how i could become a better player. So that would beat my friends I even started to take classes. But i came pretty quickly to the the idea of what if there was an app. That will just watch what i do and would generate records and provide some kind of insight as to. What should i improve I'm an engineer by trade. So i'm big on data driven analyses i used to for about a year truckload paper which shots had me which shots at made and that became really boring pretty fast but because you have to do that and then you have to load that information on some kind of spread ship to keep track of course are so. That's the genesis of the idea for the app. There's also something to be said that there's a trending the market of mo- elapsed right now apps such as these are starting to appear for different sports like baseball Soccer hockey so this to other extent a trend in the whole mobile market as well as far as you know there wasn't anything for cue sports. And i wanted that to to happen. And how long does it take to put something this together from the initial idea to having something ready for beta. So we started exploring the first. Feasibility studies would be back in may It took us something around seven months to have i could share. We try to spread the word across the red serenity that the bill yards rented. Read it Some very kind users volunteer to better test the application and they'll shared december and since then we've been polishing so i'd say around ten months since we started to to take it to production to release it to market. I mean it's really amazing. What can be done on the app and for people who haven't installed the or played with it yet. We're not just talking about simple to foot straight in shots now. Don't get me wrong. That is one of the drills. Just shooting a a simple from the spot. Janika ball in the corner pocket it. It expands out to four balls. You know you're you're putting fourballs out. You're trying to run them now. I was a little confused last night. On for example on that four-ball drill and the question it comes up on others like there's two ball drill where you're making the first getting shape on the second. Does the order of balls matter as far as the app is concerned right now. We're not a punishing. If the auditor is not respected it should be rotational We will add that control for the time being. It's an honor system that we're relying on their user to to follow the the rotation order now. We talked prior to starting the interview. And when i had played with the app last night the the early drills work perfect You set the balls up. It tells you okay the balls are in the right place get started. You make the ball at congratulates. You you missed ball it tells you okay you know you can get better You shoot it ten times. It comes back and says you completed eight times. That worked great when i got to More balls you know higher level drills. The phone started having a problem. Now you were saying that. That is probably related too late. I mean there are a number of factors that can enhance the performance of the the application of the first one is hardware Later generation ios devices will perform better The second one is lightning White lighting is. What light is the best if you have yellow light for instance the q. Can get confused with the the one the type of reading errors. If it's always reading the the stream of video on trying to figure out what's more likely that has happened and at some locations. The readings are wrong or the conclusion of that. The engine generates are not correct so depending on also the the cloth caller. You may get different performances. I mean green or tournament blue. They are the ones that perform the best buy Some users have black cloth or orange so this type of differences may have an impact on the on the curiosity. We are working all the time to make that you receive better and actually for those users that have been trying it since december. They can attest to the fact that it has improved a lot. Since then i'm confident that it will keep improving so aside from working on the accuracy and and making that better. What are your plans for the future in the future. Well more drills use create a drills. It's a feature that we're getting requested a lot. It's really easy for us. I mean the the configuration of what are a drill is. It's just a computer file. So we have the potential to create drills really fast. It's a matter of understanding. Also if the drill is prone to generate problems or not in that kind of future that we need to have but usa a drills is something that's in the in the near future also subscription model. We're trying to understand that if if it's possible to make sustainable line of business for us out of these location that same thing i would love to be honest so we could Stuff a team to keep improving the app and further down the line in future we could tackle android because right now. This is only irs. That's another of the big requests that we ever knowing abusive by our users on there are a number of things well. Some users are requesting clips the ability to Record videos of the your best shots also improve the park department So the dashboard. Once you make that. I didn't get that far into it so i didn't see anything beyond just the. Hey you made this eight out of ten times okay. So then is that. I'm using the app every day for number of reasons. Obviously but i get to compare my everyday performance with the day before the week before the month before. So i know if in any given day i've been playing above or below my average you mentioned that should make drills who basic Derive a little bodily for suits from the long range. Shot making drill. I think that has improved my game. Long range shots making a lot. And i know that for a fact because i know what my my. My score my stats. Where a couple of months ago. also the is to be able to generate heat maps. So if you're failing consistently for instance in the four-ball drill if you tend to fail the same shot time on time. Again of the end of the drill we would be a Could be able to generate a heat map saying these are the type of shots. You tend to fail more often. How and based on that we could actually even make a customer combinations. So you should be doing this. Show making drill a number of times and you mentioned the idea of being able to add functionality to track playing the ghost i mean. What would that look like now. That is for a drill to be Just rocking up on goal said break he and for you to try to run the table a number of times so we would be able to detract the whole breaking and running the table scene breaking right now. It's pretty chaotic. It's it's hard for us to read a break More so with a bowl. But i will get there. This is a game also of hardware getting better and the so forth getting better so the curiosity will improve time and do you see an and just may be something. that's already there I mean do you see having the capability for the app to know after you break. Not only where balls are but what they are. Yes yes we're right now classify the balls and if so wall. Quantification is for positional drills. That's something that i am. Makes it more finicky in the positional drills rather than the shotmaking nor this be controlled rules But yeah we know that when you pocketed the volume pocketed. We have a meeting with a certain level of confidence. This is probably six game up to a point but okay now you mentioned when you were talking about the app earlier. There's a male voice in a female voice. I gotta be honest. While i was why was playing with it last night by thought was running to. How cool would it be. If while this was going on. I had earl strickland's voice same really you dog. That ball is yes yes we would love to have illustrate columbia. One of our voices a we. I mean in terms of daydreaming. About what the voices could be. We had a number of fantasies. One was of course earl strickland Jennifer baretta we have a number of players have moved like voices to be included other than that. We went to the movies. I'd like to have a yoda voice. You can have like more funny voices if you will. You know that there is no trap. Do or do not buy like it. That sort of thing or a drill sergeant. What me whatever suits you like. That's also one of the. They mentioned in which the app could become more creative. Now i think that for people that are playing by themselves in their basement which is my case. It's some sort of companion it can become in some sort of companion and give some cooler to you practicing. We have also had feedback in the form off. I don't want any voice. just play some sound. that's fine as well. We'll probably be adding sounds because a no utter the voice. You can become a board with any voice at some point so for people who are interested in downloading it. You can find it on the on the app store or you have a website for it to what's the url for the website. It's drill room dot ai. Okay for people who like the idea. I mean it's a free app right now. So what can they do. What can your average user do if they download the app and they think this just coolest. Thanks in sliced bread. What can they do the help you well if they notice that. There's a specific drill that tends to not work sending us. A video of that scenario would help us tuned the obligation to make it work in those scenarios those conditions that one thing they can do all users could just place a positive review in the app that goes without saying and help us spread the word about it but if if you really want to help us providing some some some content some video with your scenario would help us broad the the scope of scenarios so to speak. It would help us train our models better. It really isn't amazing. I saw one of the initial posts on reddit. And i apologize dig too deeply into it and then when i saw that it had been released a i wanted to get some more information and then i heard back from i heard the you got the email from you. I've played with it last night. And and like i had mentioned you know. There's there's probably fifty apps out there from areas various professional players and you know they they come out and they have a ton of stuff in the original and there's seem to be plans on on building it and adding more to it and then it just never happens and those apps never get updated anymore. I really would like to see this. The idea of the community where people can post their own drills and then add a. That is just amazing to me. so again. It's it's drill. Room dot ai. And all include a link to that in the show notes. And i mean it's free right now. Everybody's got an iphone. Well all the cool people have iphones so you can get a night. But as well and serves say that in the short the near future it will be supported also magnesium because of the new generations are coming with achieved that allows to round these apps from the app store. So if you have. A new generation mac mini will be supported the future as well or even a mac book. So you're a pool full and you have a media you can set up a web webcom some sort. And oh we're i'm really excited about the duration of this is taking the possibilities that it has absolutely and i mean look. We're all stuck in our homes. It's not like we can go out to the pool. Room is often the like so you know this is a great way. It's a great way to to practice drills and make drills a little bit less monotonous and hopefully it's. It's something that keeps people i mean. Look you know. There's there's multiple multiple ball shots. There's there's spots that you know. Look we can always. We can always practice Stuff like that so gave you. I think it's a great looking app. And and i'm really looking forward to seeing where you're going with it. Do you have an idea as to a next major release on. It is something really that we can look forward to. I think the next major release. It's something like six weeks away I will be doing. a a week's fad. Were really putting all our efforts in that. Release six away till hideous. Yeah to broaden the scope of possible drills for users actually. We're getting a lot of feedback of. I need more difficult drills. These are really simple and then we get that and it's true all right. Well i won't take any more of your time. Because the less time of yours. That i take the more time you can spend more jobs in their. Thank you mike. Thank you for having all right. Hopefully we can talk again down the road when when the programs gotten extended and there's much more to talk about sure i'd be glad to all right. Thanks have a good one to take care. Okay that was gabriel again. If you have an iphone which all cool kids have iphones. I really i mean it's a free. It's a free install. it's it's a little bit of a hassle but how many of us don't have some kind of a tripod or stand for our phone somewhere where we can set it up five six feet off the ground pointing at our pool table with the ideas that gabriel has and the things that he would like to do with this in the future i would. I would love to see it happen. Like i said in the interview user submitted drills would be amazing and i think it would do a lot for well. I think it could do a lot for the instructional world. It could do allow for people who are stuck home but again drill room dot. Ai you can go to that url or you can go to the iphone app store and do a search for drill room. You can find the app their next week. Nick will be talking to kelly. Fisher as part of the chalk as cheap podcast. You can look for that here on the queue. It up network and tuesday all of those icee. All of his dimitrius nate myself. And who knows. Maybe carl will be back with us. We'll be having our new. I'll say usual because we did it last tuesday but really second one so tuesday morning. Ten o'clock might time. And when i say ten o'clock arizona time so what it'll be twelve one o'clock. I don't know daylight savings time. Keep an eye on the it up network page in annual. You'll get a notification when we kick it off so again. That's tuesday and nick will be talking to kelly fisher. This week you've been listening to american billiard radio. We are part of the cure network. And i appreciate you taking your time out of your busy schedules to listen. I am mike. Atherton and dave we're always thinking about.

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FC 094: Beware of the Drones

FrazlCast - A World of Warcraft Podcast

1:39:30 hr | 2 years ago

FC 094: Beware of the Drones

"It. And welcome fuzzier cats come aboard the drain. Please make sure to keep your limbs experimental instruments inside the Trina all times. And now on what the show. Podcast by a blizzard fan gnome about world of warcraft and geeky stuff. I promise you, they do talk about the world of warcraft. They just go off the rails sometimes. Bradley on this Valentine's already had his bagel. I love copy. Okay. No, I dig a kissed by dolphin. Once you get often. Pictures? God, I never knew you. So adventurous wrestling. I'm also eighty would work craft I'm dating. I mean, even Amazon Alexa, giving Google assistant, and I'm just all over the place all over. Yeah. But I am joined by Sharkey boy in metal X Pearl Howdy. I'm still got to have here. It's it's always fun on Thursday to get together to record and just have a fun time. It's fun. Oh, yeah. Like I'm really excited about this, actually. I'm really excited. I love that. And before we get into this, I, I wanted to do a quick bit of housekeeping just to kind of it wouldn't be fair this week to start without at least acknowledging something that came up, okay? On Tuesday, activision blizzard laid off eight percent of employee's in a massive restructuring, and I've heard estimates that it is over eight hundred people do. Yeah. Yeah, I thought it was two hundred for some reason. Oh, no. It was. Yeah. They said around eight percent. It's, it's really weird because like I've been like as soon as it happened. I was I think it was I already playing in in game and that was on my CTR tune and immediately, everybody just started. It was like two sided pretty much. It wasn't really anywhere on the middle like on. I would say on your case freshly I'm kind of where you're at. But like everybody was there. Totally against it or totally for it, it was so weird, and it's like people either, like, man that sucks. I hope they're doing ok in, you know, it's I totally fear feel for the people or it's while blizzard is such bad people for doing that. And this is not the first time wizards done this Intel's twelve they laid off six hundred people. And, and I'm I'm still wrestling with the wake of what happened on Tuesday. Like my heart goes out to all who lost their jobs. I don't have anything to really add to it other than like, I'm agreeing with you metal. I'm kind of I'm not an either camp like it was rough. And then, like I actually did not do the fast report this week. 'cause I just could not get myself to do a report it was gonna be on on love. Love is in the air. And it was like it wasn't this week? So those all those, those jokes stories are, are going to be saved for the next year, Nick. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, if I might add something, what I think is kind of interesting about. The whole thing is apparently, there's like a big spotlight. Unlike activision in, like the head of activision everything, I don't know, if I'm just like out of the loop or anything, but I haven't really heard anything about activision comments in much on the layoffs, at least as far as my end for some reason, it kind of sounds a little shady. Maybe I don't know about, like big business. But I dunno feels like activision like hiding something. It is not a I would say from pure wise. Mattress studying public relations right now for my next course, June flash guard action public relations the day that has happened in thinking it wasn't the best PR move at least wise to open up saying with our record year. Then, by the way, here, it is an idiot, like, there are definitely nerves that are understandably raw amongst community. I mean, and I've seen I've seen all the stuff I'm trying to void as many hot takes as much account. And it's like in the speculate. I don't want to jump on the train of I, I've seen people say, some very rude things about the show. And, and it's one of those, I'm like, I don't want to speculate there, the plenty of people are going to be speculating on. Exactly. Yeah. Like I was saying I was in the CPR go chat. And there were people that were like roasting the CEO. And I'm just like I don't there's a reason to do that. There's obviously financial reasons to do it, but I just looked it up just for sake of argument and just to make if anyone isn't caught in a loop, just make everyone feel a little bit better. The international game developers sociation has actually reached out to some of those employees employee's enter like pretty much helping them go to career centers and things like that to find new jobs. Yeah. They're reaching out the companies that have spots open trying to pretty much gateway them from blizzard to a new company that way you gotta think about it people that are within blizzard, whether they're in a lot of 'em were like marketing and. Art department regardless there with probably one of the biggest gaming companies today anybody's with jump at picking them up. So I can vary p you're going to see them transition to another large company. No matter what their field is in because not saying that butchered granted, unlike Fraz -ly, I'm blizzard fan boy, I guarantee you. They're gonna go from one company to another. And there's granted there's a lot of them, so not everyone will. But a lot of them probably will get a new job somewhere else. Very easily in. We lost a some great caliber people. I mean, I'm going to mention a few names, but this is not even the extent of everybody that's there. But like we lost Christina Mukundan Kate in house, q Lee who made many of the plush. She's in fact, I'm looking at two plus, she's right in front of me, and I've got countless plus us around me. We lost rubber Taylor, and there's many more. But I love that the community. And these different associates have come together and are doing what you said, they're, they're finding jobs. The, the, the community is, is giving support the people and that blew me away that, that, that we are taking a thing where, where all are all feeling heartbroken. We're all feeling so. Shocked. I mean I wasn't expecting this. We're feeling anger were feeling sad. I mean we're going to a lot of grief right now over these people that we've gotten to know some people had a long tenure at blizzard, and it shocking, and there is a game. Dev, st- Google document that has a ton of jobs for people that are that are hiring. And I'm gonna have Lincoln the show notes, but it's there are reach wheats, people were re tweeting, these things all over Twitter. And that's that is what I'm amazed at the outpouring of support for those jobs. That's the thing that's different today compared to maybe ten fifteen years ago. This happened like if this would happen earlier on, they would actually probably struggle to find new jobs. But now it's just like I mean, I didn't know this document existed until I pulled it up, how to your show notes like holy crap. And it says it's constantly being updated by people like there's a group of people who's actually continuing pouring details into this. Yeah. And. Even if even if they're active on Twitter, which they probably are, I would assume people will help them out, like it's, it's not like they're just pushed out onto the street and even like I'm sure most people care enough about their careers at the Dave have enough gung ho to go out and find new replacement job as well. I think it's also just kind of nice that the fact that they're not like being like pushed out of the industry like they're still trying to connect with other people. And I think it's going to be very interesting in the future about what some of these other people might end up doing who was the guy who developed heart stone. I keep forgetting his name, Ben Brodin like when he when he left the company to start his own thing, it's kind of interesting how he kind of took a lot of influence from his work from blizzard implemented whose work, so I'm kinda like interested. How those former employees might implement their skills that they developed in blizzard into other games. And who knows. We might even see. Little Easter eggs, we might see, like little things that might you know, influence other games to essentially, like, constructed into a brand new thing. I'm not part like the gaming industry in terms like creating games and stuff. But it's kind of neat just to kind of take a look like behind the scenes and like how things develop over time. Yeah. And ends made into the thing about the things that they've learned to blizzard that, and I've heard of people who have gone blizzard, and they brought what they learned because there is a collective conscious that blizzard of ideals, and like theory on, like game design, like like lighting, and things m so many things that, that are passed on. And it's fun to see that somebody did. It's kind like when you see somebody who worked at apple and then they go on to make a design, and you're like, wow, you see where they've learned from apple what they've done and I still love the game. And I'm and I'm I'm still gonna play play while the. There was a moment on Tuesday, where it was hard for me to log into while I was like you know what I still love this game, I still have the people that are still at blizzard still loving this game as well. Let's continue to support people who are there, let's continue into sports people who who lost their job. Let's keep posting these things. Thank you to everyone at blizzard everyone who's ever been at blizzard for all that you've done. There's a reason we love these games reason that we podcast that we stream that we all of these things because we love the, the, the games that you have produced. And you're like you see is going to live on the passionate that even in all of us, we wanna take that on and help inspire the people. Yeah. Yeah. That, that's pretty cool. Yeah. I, I mean I, I mean I'm probably going to play while to work until, like either I die or until the surfers. Yeah. Yeah. Like I probably would have struggled to get on Fresno. But when I heard about it, I was already logged in so, like I was just sitting there doing world quests, and then I was in Barral. And somebody was talking about it in, like in stopped, and I'm just like what mmediately over to my second monitor that was just like the typing cat mean where you're the hands are flying like crazy. That was me. I was active keyboards, so festival going on, like four different web pages and I watched like three videos. One of them being billiards video on it in just like, oh my God. It was definitely it was definitely weird. I was in podcast recording. And I was like, they're discussing something. So I was just real quick googling something for this show. I happened to have Twitter open like my entire got. So distracted I mean in all rest of Tuesday. I was distracted. And then I went into Al later on just to kind of veg out and level and stuff like that. And I am. Yeah, just a completely ask KOA from ice. I feel you. Yeah, it actually was kind of. Nice Pat was in, in guilt chat, and people were discussing any said, I think at this point and go ch out. Let's table at here and move over to this court because he said people wanna kinda put in the report because. Yeah. Was sitting there like people were going about it. And, and I didn't realize that was when a pats tunes, he's like he's like, I made a channel for it, like, just go ahead and dump all your thoughts there that way, we don't crowd up guild chat. It's. It's just like that's actually really smart on him. That is smart. Yeah, I heard about it through, like I think the lagging balls discord, I think I kinda like heard about, like, oh, you know, we heard from Bloomberg about Dutta like all this other business stuff. Actually, it's kind of funny because recently on YouTube. I've been like taking a look at, like defunct like amusement park videos for some reason. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. Have you ever heard of something called a defunct lamp before? Oh, obsolete Lincoln, 'cause I love defunct land. Yes. Oh, yeah. I don't know why. But I like to play in the background. What I do world question stuff. I, I don't know something about, like Kevin perjures voice, that's just like really nice to hear for some reason. And yeah, just hearing all the stories about, like, oh, there's this thing in Tokyo. Disneyland based on Coldren that said something about Satan for some reason. I don't know this weird, but it's kind of nice, and it's amazing to learn like things that were there, some of the things I experienced things like I never experienced that in. Yeah. Oh, yeah. They have a podcast as well. That reminds me, I got, like check out the last episode. It also perjures like interviewing this guy named bright, some films, which was like my introduction to it. So I got like listened to that when I get chance, I'm gonna add them as well, because there are some amazing YouTubers, and I, I've been on the same terrain of watching all of these abandoned. Bankrupt places to learn from what happened or like how they crashed down, essentially. Yeah. I think it is important to learn from things that happened now. Exactly. Well, I want to kind of continue the focus that I've having on the community and all that. And getting to know people I have met at the community, like both of you and speaking community epic insanity. What time is it? It's time to go around the table, great idea. So what have you been up to recently? So we will start with KYW Sharkey boy in terms of willed warcraft. I recently started a brand new horde tune. I actually used my level boost which I know a lot of people kinda feel like a little Erkki about because, you know, I never really experienced a full hoard experience before. Yes, and other into the full. I know. I know. So recently, I started a pen, darn rogue named flu fee t which yet. Yeah. And there's actually a funny story behind some character names, which out go into maybe a little bit. Later. But this is actually the first Pandora, and I actually ever played an I actually went through the starting RIA, and it's actually really pretty looking. I was actually pretty surprised about it. And of course, I also did the, the level boosting which is like all the way to one ten I had it like leftover from like, you know, expansion everything. So, so I was like, all right. I might as well just like use it because I don't know what else to use it on. It was kinda neat just to take a look at Zand alarm in a more in-depth thing because only played align side, you only get like little tiny tastings of legs, and Laura. Yeah, it's kind of interesting, but go deeper into are, and you find out all this history about the titans and the troll empire and everything that this kind of sparked my curiosity and I started to learn about, like different Loa. And like I mean, what of the Loa is frigging T, Rex the frigate T Rex that can eat you alive. It just looks amazing. And it's this like, wow. I've been missing us the entire time. Why haven't I figured this out like? Earlier. It's just ridiculous. Is the Loa Janney, oh, the trash lower the trash low. Yeah, I think I know what you're talking about the one where you have to collect the little shiny. Me and my friends, we call her the trash low because she's always. I did recently with that actually a mind of the franker rock, the trash law has smoked. God, but yeah, I've just been kind of like doing that on a fluffy on an awful little bit. I still on my main magic tea, which is, like, my, my main made in terms of other stuff just been working on something called project thrall, which is like a voiceover project. I'm doing over on my twitch stream, I'm actually going to do a I think another recording a little bit later on today. Actually, I kinda wanna finish up chapter two and maybe do some gaming stuff. Little bit later on today. Other than that, I've also been doing hard stone, and you know this kind of just been doing some matches. But boy, some, some of those players who they'll, they'll knockout. If you're not paying attention. I defeated by my nephew at heart of listing. Yeah. Hurts done. It is not for the hearted and you have to name this. Like I tried it work like if I have not better do, I'll just be like, hey, when I co is really into it would be like, hey, man, trying to get into the heart stone Helmi Bill, the dick, and I build a deck, and then the season's over. So I'm just like, okay, whatever. I'm done. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I kind of been on and off on a little bit, although it is a good game. If you're just like on your phone at, like a bar like at a Starbucks or something, and you have nothing to do or something, it's still kinda like a nice light, you know, bar game if he just went at three it is a very good game to play while on the toilet. And it's good. Like maybe twenty minutes since like. All right. You're good. I don't think I ever done that it's, it's a good way to relax. I would definitely say. I'm looking forward to immortalise. I'm game. Perfect game for it people who play their switch on the toilet. Yeah. Yeah. Although I heard it can get like, really nasty with the bacteria and everything. So, yeah, I don't want to, you know, it's just my Chevy side, just like showing the sanitation training boy. Yeah. I, I've heard also that the phones are pretty disgust. I think mind constantly. Yeah, I need to clean vine. Yeah. That reminds me I also need to get some like Sani wipes for like those like disposable like waves that you put off. Yeah. Yeah. Clark's wipes. Yeah, but yeah, that's just been what I've been just doing. And also, I just recently started new job. So I'm just trying to get used to that it's kind of a lotta up in the air right now so far you to tell where you're working. I can't say I am working at a certain coffee. Shop will give you a hint. It starts with an S, one of the best things about this new job. I could get coffee for free. Yes, dangerous and not just free coffee drinks during an after work, but also, I get free ground coffee once per week, which is nice. I even got myself like this blend called cafe Verona and also pike place roasts, which if he never tried cafe Verona from well, the cop shop that starts with S. It's really nice. It's dark roast, but also has like some sweet cocoa flavors to it. So if you're fan of chocolate, definitely give it a shot. I always love the blend of coffee comes from Guatemala Amal. Yeah. You're yeah. You're talking to the one person that is a start the coffee place of that. He's gonna lose the for their coffee all everything. Fan. Oh, yeah. The versus not by name and I I'm one of the easiest. Oh, the people there. Nobody. The people that are friends with Israel Twitter account. Yeah. I bet that they love my order this just a personal cups. It's just a little bit of toffee nut, and then just filled straight up with black. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I feel you. I'm the same way my K cups. I use for work are straight like regular blend coffee, and then I add a little bit of Creamer. Okay. I I've never really experimented with different flavors of coffee. Like, my, my dad is, was a straight black coffee kind of guy. And then my wife is like frou frou. Salted caramel mocha. She does all the crazy stereotypical, white girl, coffees. At the time I tried the coffee milkshakes. Until I learned. There's not much. Oh, yeah. I it's barely any like, not, not really that much. But I don't know. It's like a nice like sweet treat there in the summer, you know. Oh, absolutely. Always hate those because whenever have this milkshakes. I always feel guilty like just give me the cost so much. Yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Although for while I was kind of like a tea drinker for a while. Because the last place, I work at was a place called Argo tea in Chicago, and everything and do serve coffee there. But it was mostly, like a t place, some of the fancy drinks that we had there. We have something called. T pacino's. Okay. Yeah. No, so t Pacino's it's basically half t half milk. And then we add in the flavors so it's very similar to like a lot t- Lotte, if he ever had one of those yeah. Used to remember? We have like some really weird like names for some of these, like, I think one of them was, like, there was an early vanilla creme, which is one of my personal favorites there was something that we had called the Mohegan, which is like Armenia Mitzi. That had like sparkling water and lime and like all this other stuff. That's it's like a MO hito, but instead of Rome, it's like Armenian meant for some reason, it was pretty nuts at delicious. So along with the while you drinking, your coffee in your tea, I see a lot that you like the draw. Yeah I do a little bit of a traditional art on the side on my Twitter. I actually it's funny because I actually started drying when I took an animation class for fun at this local community college, you know, I was just trying different careers. Stuff. And like, you know kinda like discover myself while I was there. I kind of created this like original character called Leona the adorable demon based on bendy the ink machine. It was the something that does kinda like clicked with me, and I just kinda like draw just like random stuff, you know, I mean I'm not like to consistent, I'm not really the best artists in the world. But I can say, I'm like a old school style cartoonist. I guess the best way, I can put it. I've been doing seeing them, because it's it's one of those, I've always wanted to take drawing, but I don't have the patience to do. I haven't done. I have the ipad pro with the apple pin Seoul. And I'm like only drawn. Yeah. I just like suggest you regular pencil and paper, that's usually like the best way to do it. And plus it's also a way to kind of like help rest my eyes because sometimes I'm just like looking at screen like all day, and it kinda like the light from your computer. It can actually hurt your eyes after like a prolonged exposure to it. So I actually used like sketchbook that I just have like long around and it would give my chance my eyes to rest and kinda like, you know, refresh it. It's like it's almost like a pallet cleanser, almost like if you play like will the worker for hours. Sometimes your is need a break just having like a nice like piece of paper and just drawing on, like a piece of paper. That's a Connecticut thing. So when you draw your hand eye coordination like doing something to your brain, it helps you relax, at least something called what was a called serotonin or something like calming kind of like comical, in the brain that kinda like you know, makes you feel refreshed, awesome. And then when you're drawing, y'all do voice. Acting in wish over. I just recently got it back up again. I am actually currently doing something called project thrall on YouTube, which is like a audio book project based on one of my favorite books, which is known as Lord of the plans. All yeah, it's one of my personal favorite books from the warcraft series is kind of like a I like to call it like a voice over training type of thing where I'm kinda like trying to get used to like, how to like tell a story just revolts alone. I did have like another project about two years ago called project artists, but I kinda stopped because I was kinda like in a bit of a funk. I think I was in like a bit of a weird funk for about, like two years. But I just kinda got back into it. I also do auditioned on casting call club, which is like a cool website. I also do stuff for hit record, which I actually got shot out from Joseph, Gordon Levitt who is like a, a great a prominent actor on nice. Yeah, I did a couple years back, and I also do some stuff on there, which is just like a nice like little website. That's been developed for. For content creators, just bring their original work and just like you know give themselves exposed. How did you get into doing voiceovers? So there were a lot of little events. But the one I remember the most was when I was in, I wanna say early high school late middle school. I remember seeing something on YouTube about, like different voice actors from your childhood or something. And I think it was like the voice actress for ash catch or something. There was like a little expose about it. I kind of forgot her name, but I remember seeing footage of her doing like Adams wise. I do stuff like that. Yeah. My brother at the time younger, brother. He was kind of a little bit like, no, my child ins ruined something. But for me is like that is the coolest thing ever. I want to learn how to do that. It kind of sparked like interests. Of course, you know, the other stuff too, like my culinary career. Unlike my other stuff, what really set the nail in the coffin was, I was part of something called the brownie fandom, which I don't know if yeah. Some people familiar, I went to my first. Voice acting panel during their conventions. And I was like, wow, this is really cool. I really wanna do this as a job someday after a I kind of decided just start doing my own stuff on YouTube as well as other stuff on, like soundcloud and stuff like that, which I gotta like figure out a way how to, like, re integrate that into my content creation and I've just been very interested in just acting in general, I was in a couple of state productions, I was even part of a soap opera once in a weird way I actually got this gig as, like an extra, which is like why the background characters? Yeah. For this show called empire, which was actually filmed in Chicago. There's actually loud TV shows filmed around there in, I remember the day that action went there. It was actually inside a former steel mill I kinda win there. It was like a club scene, and all the sets were inside these giant would in boxes. So it's kind of like if you wanna go inside like when the apartments, for example, you enter into the box, and the boxers looks like an apartment like inside New York City, which is. Pretty cool. I remember being an extra behind the scenes they're you know, it was like a song sequence. So it's almost like being in the mini concert, which was kind of fun, granted was when song over and over and over, but it was pretty fun. But I remember this one moment. So when the main actresses her name's like Toronto, I, I can't remember her name, her character name is cookie. You know, it's like a hip hop kind of thing. I remember in between takes this was in the middle of July inside the steel mill it's like seventy degrees. So average room temperature but I remember seeing her in a big for coat in between takes with John was those boots. Yeah. And then she's kind of said it's too damn coated here. I get says like. Like I didn't want to say just because I don't want to get in trouble. But I was just kind of like kind of like this kind of trying, not to laugh, just kind of like lady, it's seventy degrees in here. It's cold at all. But anyways, if she hears this, I don't mean disrespect I just thought it was just a funny story behind it also. Yeah. Oh, by the way, if you wanna find me in that episode on season, two episode twelve in the song, like my daddy, that's what it is of empire of empire. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I it's a great show, but who it's heavy. So, you know, you're gonna have to be ready for it. So that's one that I've been wanting to get into now that you're in, I. Yeah. Yeah. Although you wouldn't really see my face, but I'm kind of like the big dude in the corner, that has like the beige is suit that you can imagine. It was kinda weird because everyone's in, like trendy club clothing. You know, something that was like, oh, it's like something out of Los Angeles or something. But I'm just like some guy that got transported from the nineteen fifties into it. Like, for some reason, it was it was the weirdest experience I've ever experienced TV set, I was on a Disney cruise ship, and the person that was the that was busting the table and like the drinks, they were an extra on whether Harry Potter movie overly. I used areas all of like they're actually, on the cover one of the movies, but they're blurred out, because the studio could not pay royalties. But they were in the in as an extra in I got in trouble because I'm just so excited about what they're doing that. That is awesome like where they like a student or a teacher something, I think they were a student, so I think that they were there walking around and they said the actors were phenomenal. They actually said, drink a mouthful was one of the nicest people that they've ever met. Yeah. Surprised at that too. It was like the actor did not treat them like an extra treated the Mike, just just like a friend that they're hanging out. So I love stories about being extras and stuff like that. Because i